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This is Jordan Poyer, safety for
the Buffalo Bills, and you are now
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listening to Cover One Buffalo Podcast.
Let's go all right, it's time to
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dive into our position preview series tonight, starting with the quarterbacks with the coaching
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staff at first, our guys with
Handsome Jack broadcasting live to Bill's Mafia worldwide
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with Greg tom Sett and Aaron Quinn. Welcome to the n F film.
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Doesn't matter what's happened before today.
Today's a brand new day. It's a
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matter where you are, we got
you covered evening and welcome to the Cover
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Everyone, Buffalo Podcast. You are
joining your host Greg tom Sit along with
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my partner in crime, Aaron Quinn. Aaron, how we're doing? Yo?
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What is going on? Gregory?
How are you man? Uh?
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It's uh OTAs like Buffalo Bills are
doing football things. Technically is it does
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account as football things? Nope,
not even close. It's not even close
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to football things. As you can
see, they do involve a football like
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they do involve a football that.
Yeah. If if you are only tuning
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into the audio side of this and
you are not watching the video. My
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sign this week pretty much sums up
how I feel about this period of time
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in Buffalo Bills season ramp up.
It says ten reasons OTAs are dumb click
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here. Uh. I don't even
think it's the process of OTAs that I
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hate. Like, I understand what
they're doing. They're building foundations. We're
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talking about it offline, getting these
young guys and acclimated that type of stuff.
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To me, it's the reactions from
people the lead up of like five
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things to watch at OTAs. No, there isn't. There's not five things
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to watch. You're not going to
draw anything out of this, and then
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that every Tuesday we're gonna get these
bits from the media and they're gonna overhype
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things that ultimately aren't going to matter
come August. Maybe some of it will,
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but even Sean McDermott sort of pushed
back on some of that with hey,
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like in the past, I've gotten
two hyped on guys that did well
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in OTAs and bought into that too
much and it's not real, like you
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know, he pushed back on that
a little too, So we'll talk about
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it if anything pops up. But
we were saying, like is there even
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really anything to talk about going into
it and right now in terms of OTAs,
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So you're saying your stock is up
on OTAs. Yeah. Well,
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so you know we're talking pre show
like literally what could you possibly take away?
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And I said, you know,
sometimes who lines up where is interesting.
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You know, Christian Benford still at
corner. They haven't. They're talking
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about he's definitively working there. They're
not moving him to safety right now,
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although they did definitively use language like
not right now or possible color like we
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he is in this battle currently,
correct? Correct? And I like the
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fact that this is one of the
only chances we get to hear from guys
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like John Butler. That was one
of the presses I definitely listened closely to.
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You know, Dorian Williams starting out
at middle linebacker was a little bit
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of a pivot from some of the
early comments. I know McDermott then hedged
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right after the draft, saint he'll
learn both, and now all of a
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sudden, it's no, he's starting
out at middle linebacker and learning from there.
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You know, I joked pre show
like if they lined up the first
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team offense and David Edwards was the
first guy in the guard I'd be like,
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oh, that's interesting, But like, it's really hard to take anything
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away from here. I don't mind
that Dalton Kincaid's getting some reps with Josh
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Allen. I don't mind that,
you know, we get to see freaking
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gazelle like Justin Shorter trotting down the
sideline. But this is also Dirick Roger
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season. This, this is Justin
Shorter season. This is yes, this
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is David Sill's season. This is
you know, Tavon Austin looked awesome when
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we were no pads on. So
there's just not a ton to take away
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from anything here other than like,
hey, hope everybody shows up, nobody
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gets hurt, and it's a good
team building opportunity. Yeah. And I
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agree with Rick here in the chat
saying, you know, ots are beautiful
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because it's the start of everything.
Yes, I love I love pictures of
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Josh Allen and Advisor coming out shows, like every single Bills fan does.
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I also like seeing him throw the
ball at the doll and pincaide. All
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that stuff's good. It means we're
getting closer. It means we can start
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planning our trip for going to camp. We were talking about that, like
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all that stuff's piling up, it's
ramping up again. My problem is just
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like, let's not try to create
something that's not there in stories of guys
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stocks rising and things like that.
In OTA process. We have all summer
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for that, and that's really where
it's going to shake out. One interesting
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thing I kind of just we talked
about the John Butler interview. I agree,
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I loved it. I am wondering
if the Bills are going to have
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to put somebody out there because Sean
McDermott is going to do his head coaching
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weekly stuff anyway, and they have
the coordinators, will they roll out a
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Wilkes or a Butler or is it
this just an OTA thing? Do you
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think? I I very first thought
when Butler was out there was is he
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getting the pseudo defensive coordinator reps?
Like that was literally the first thing out
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of my mind because he was the
only position coach that went out for one.
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So um, I have no idea, but I'm going to read into
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that that like he's going to get
the pseudo defensive coordinator reps from a presser
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standpoint, which is cool because I
think that's actually judge on to him because
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he's one that like people have gone
to. You know, you were a
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huge advocate of Bob Babbitch. You
know, people obviously connected some of the
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dots with Eric Washington's previous experience.
I had talked about the hey, don't
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look past a fast rise from Bobby
babbitche But you talk about the success of
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this defense of the past five or
six years, the defensive backfield is the
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reason that it's been so good.
So like, I like that John Butler's
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getting some flowers here and getting the
chance to shine a little bit more.
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And I like the fact that when
McDermott and we'll talk about this, when
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we could talk about our coaching position
previews and get into his role, when
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he talked about the guys helping him
make the defensive game plan, he only
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listed two names, and he talked
about l Hocum and he talked about John
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Butler. And I like that that
they are the names that came up and
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that they are going to be the
guys helping him build that game plan.
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Yeah, and it's really cool because
we've seen the Bills do this. They
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want their coaching staff and they're everyone
to go on and succeed, whether it's
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with the Bills or not. And
that even if this doesn't go on throughout
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the season, getting those reps and
the press conferences like it doesn't seem like
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much. But if it's if you're
trying to get your name out there into
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the National Football League that you want
to become a defensive coordinator or be in
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consideration for that. Whether or not
you think it matters, how you handle
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yourself in those types of situations and
interviews and stuff like that matters. So
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getting those reps in for a guy
like that, that's a big deal because
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those are things you can't replicate,
like you can't replicate a real press conference
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about the defense. So OCA is
for everyone any right, everybody's getting going
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through reps. So before we dive
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We appreciate it. Yeah, So
without further ado, we will jump
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in. And I did a lot
of analysis here, diving through a lot
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of different metrics. You know,
we have access, we talk about them.
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And I gotta tell you, as
I dug through all this, Josh
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Allen's pretty good? Is he?
That? All come? I did?
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It was? It was amazing.
Josh Allen is a good quarterback. I
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couldn't believe it. I just didn't
didn't know that was going to be the
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case. And as I found my
takeaways, he's good at Football he is.
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Yeah, I mean that Weekend End
the show now right now, it's
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it's great. The way Josh ended
the season last year, it wasn't fantastic,
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but he still is a top three
quarterback. And I was having this
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conversation our friend Glenn Goodberry. It's
not he posted something on a some Bengals
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fan there was a list of quarterbacks
I think it was from one of the
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guys at PF. Yeah, they
had Allen two and they had browthrect and
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the Bengals fan guy. I was
like, you gotta be kidd. I
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mean, there's no chance on earth
that this is that, but it really
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is that conversation. I think as
Bills fans, we need to just say
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now that Patrick Mahomes is a full
step ahead of everybody, right Like,
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it's not I know a couple years
ago where we're trying to make that conversation
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of hey, Allen is right there
with Mahomes. He's not right there with
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Mahomes. Mahomes different. He's the
Michael Jordan of this league right now at
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the quarterback position. But that's okay. And I do think Burrow and Allen
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are right there nipping at the heels
they're not super far off. He's a
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step ahead. They can do some
of those things to be special like him.
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But arguing over who's better, it's
a tier, and Josh Allen is
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in that top tier. You can
add some other guys in that tier if
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you want. I think there's some
arguments for other players in the league,
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but in terms of the resumes,
what they've done, what they've done in
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big games. I know Josh Allen
hasn't won all the big games. If
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you believe in QB wins, he
hasn't won all of them. But he's
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won some good big games and played
very well in big games, and so
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he's right there with anybody, Like
you said, any analytics, any metrics,
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all national media, all analysts are
saying that he's in that top tier.
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So I think that debates far beyond
us and we need to stop taking
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the eight on. When I did
it today, when some guys like Josh
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Allen isn't even special and I still
took the bait, I'm mad at myself
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for a day, like we're beyond
this now. I got to be past
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this that just like let people talk
nonsense, they sound stupid, they look
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stupid. I don't need to point
that out. Yeah, and if you
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look just some of the raw statistics, you know, three straight years with
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forty four hundred, forty five hundred
yards, thirty five thirty six, thirty
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seven touchdowns the last couple of years, you know, every year five six
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seven hundred rushing yards, another six
seven eight rushing touchdowns, just every single
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year. The last two years have
been weirdly similar, like one hundred and
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twenty two rushes for seven hundred and
sixty three yards, then one hundred twenty
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four rushes for seven hundred and sixty
two yards. He's had sixty three point
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three percent completion percentage the last two
years in a row, like thirty seven
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thirty six to thirty five touchdowns.
He's he's kind of leveling into hey,
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he's just an elite quarterback. He's
just going to be this level. And
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of course everyone has a bad taste
in them up from the last game or
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including Josh Allen. He's talked about
how frustrated he is with that last game.
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We know, we've talked about it
was one of the worst games he's
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played since his rookie year. He
deserves some criticism for a terrible playoff performance
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and being in that spot, it
doesn't take away from the fact that he
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was still a fantastic quarterbackular and we're
not in that spot. Yeah, not
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even von Miller spoke to that,
and about Stefan Diggs miss in OTAs here
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which isn't also not a story,
but saying that they're like, if it's
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not Josh Allen stuff on, dis
like none of this is going on for
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us, Like they are what drives
this ship. Hey, Greg, if
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you get a chance here, go
into the slack. I just sent you
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a message. I probably should have
done this before the show, but here
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we are. It is a tweet
from Summer Sports. If you can pull
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that up for a few ers when
you get a chance here. Um Joe
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Marino shared this. That's how it
came across my timeline earlier this week,
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and it's a fantastic chart herewing how
quarterbacks perform in pure passing situations twenty twenty
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one to twenty and twenty two.
I think it's blocking right now, but
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obviously here Patrick Mahomes For those who
can't see Patrick Mahomes way ahead an EPA
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drop back when expected to pass over
everyone else but Josh Allen's number two,
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Joe Burrows right there with him and
Jimmy Garoppolo, and then you see a
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big drop off. Um, I
don't know what Jimmy Garoppolo's doing up there,
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but shout out to Shanahans. Yeah
that's Kyle Bart. That's so side
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note. What's so weird is he's
such a genius, but it doesn't seem
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like he can actually evaluate the quarterbacks
that one. Yeah yeah, but yeah,
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if you give him one fight with
the Bengals, fans show him this
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because this doesn't even count rushing value
correct, Like, hey, and you
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know this is when you expect defense
is no, you're going to be passing
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in those situations when there's a seventy
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it harder to have success. And
they want to say, what, look
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at the last game they played,
Well, the last game that Patrick Mahomes
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and Josh Allen played. Josh Allen
one, it's not the reason that we're
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saying that he's better than Patrick Mahomes
like that. It's one game, Like,
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that's not how that works. But
I think the important parton a couple
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of fans are bringing this up in
the chat The fact that both US and
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Bengals fans, two long suffering franchises, have guys that they wouldn't trade for
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anyone, is awesome. Like,
don't get me wrong, I'm comfortable acknowledging
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that Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback
in the world. I wouldn't trade Josh
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Allen for anything. Now. I
wouldn't trade Josh Allen for any player in
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the NFL, Patrick Mahomes included,
because he's our guy. I want him
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to be the one that brings us
our first super Bowl. I don't want
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to go get the other guy who
already won somewhere else and then have him
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win here. I want Josh Allen
to be the guy that wins it.
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And I know and can say with
confidence, I think he's capable of doing
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that, because every Advanced Metrics says
that. We had other really smart people
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come on the show. Kevin Cole, one of the brightest analytical minds in
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football, talking about the fact that
at worst the Bills are tied for the
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best team in the league and that
you know you're one of those teams.
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That's all you can ask it was
going into the season, you have a
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chance. You need all those things
to turn out, right, you need
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to draft class, to hit,
you need health, luck, you need
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some of those. All the crazy
drama that was involved in our last season
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with the historic storms and rescheduling things, and then obviously the the you know
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anxiety that the Damar Hamlet situation added
on to everything. You know you need
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not to you know, endure those
events. But having a guy like Josh
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Youllen gives you a chance every year, and we have him. He's at
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the peak of his powers. He's
just turned twenty seven years old, and
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you know we're going to be in
that spot for the foreseeable future. Yeah,
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And I mean we'll talk about it
here a little bit later. There's
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some evolution happening in this offense for
him too. Like I was frustrated with
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the way that that Bengals game winches, like everybody else was. I'm very
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frustrated with the comments from Isaia McKenzie
talking about the game play man and the
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snell I don't want to hear from
you. Guess who didn't contribute to anything
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in that game, Yeah, Isaiah
McKenzie. And it's sure. I think
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I had some arguments with fans on
that talking point that like Hey, the
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game plan wasn't great. My point
is the plays we're there to be me
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right. Yeah, we can fire
up the film right now and I can
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show you three or four big time
explosive plays that changed that way that game's
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going that were just missed, flat
out missed, mostly on Josh Allen,
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but also baked into some of this
is that was Ken Dorsey's first time in
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a real big spot against the high
quality defensive coordinator in the playoffs, and
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that is a different lew and Roubill
beat him. It doesn't mean that he's
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never going to be able to come
back. Yeah, it's a growing it's
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growing, it's gonna work. We
heard Sean McDermott talk about how Ken Dorrisey
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and Josh Allen working together. We
heard Josh Allen talking about some of the
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influence he's had in that room with
Ken Dorsey. So there's gonna be some
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growing there too. And Josh talked
about it on his own press conference,
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just some of the things he has
to clean up of. Hey, I
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used to be just a hey,
get open and I'll get you the ball.
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And that does work to a certain
point. You put up big numbers
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and you get good stats. But
he needs to be able to when the
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defense gives them the look that Dorsey
wants, get to the guy, get
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to the read, be to the
spot that the players need to be at
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and cleaning those things up. And
I think if he does unlock some of
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that and he and Dorsey get a
little more on the same page and we'll
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talk about some of the other stuff
that this offense cut unlock. I mean,
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this could go to a whole nother
level that we haven't even seen yet.
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Yeah, and you know it's it's
areas that we'll get into some in
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the coaching here in a moment.
But just some final things on Josh Allen.
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Even in the advanced metrics last year, people talking about that wasn't his
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best season, he was still number
two in QBR, number one in the
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ALEX rating, the Sports Info solution
juices, which your which is consistently going
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past the sticks and not coming up
short on different plays. Fourth in adjusted
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completion percentage, you know, the
defense adjusted yards that they use. You
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know, still top five in all
of those, which takes away any of
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the rushing impact that he has,
and still had them as the number two
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DVOA offense in the NFL. So
it's even with what most people wouldn't consider
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his best season, they were still
unbelievable and just being in that kind of
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spot where, like I said,
what he's kind of leveled into as just
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every year is going to be five
hundred seven hundred rushing yards, forty three
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hundred, forty six hundred passing yards, thirty five to thirty eight touchdowns,
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and manageable interceptions. He's kept those
in the same range pretty much every year
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of his career. Yeah, all
of those pieces, that's what gives you
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a chance to have a championship level, you know, roster opportunity in season,
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and we have that which and I
saw another which I was pulled up
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all these tweets before the show.
I saw another one of where he's like
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the Ironman right now of starting quarterbacks
in the league and he probably should have
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taken three weeks off last year,
where being honest, it probably would have
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helped them long term in hindsight.
But since that origin Uco injury his rookie
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years, he just chuck and the
way he plays people. Chef made a
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big point about that this offseason he's
got to take less hits, all that
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stuff. He only gets hurt in
the pocket. First of all, he
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has never really taken you know,
knock on wood. He delivers more yet
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takes. But for the style of
play that he does to have a good
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starting record like that, it's fantastic. And Greg here before we move on,
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should we introduce people? So this
one won't probably apply as much as
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the other positional previews here, But
in the past we've done the loft and
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exercise and if you guys haven't been
here for that, basically the loft and
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exercises. When the season's over,
we look through the roster and kind of,
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um, it's you find that the
different spots are players that you can
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win because players that are good enough
to win with and that you need better
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at other positions. So for this
exercise, as we go through the positional
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breakdowns, we're going to do it
on a scale of one to five,
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five being you win because of us
just straight up, this person can elevate
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your team and you win because of
them. Four is good enough to win
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with potential to be a number five, So kind of that in between where
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the loft and doesn't give you that
sort of leeway. Three is good enough
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to win with two need better but
potential to be a number three. And
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then one is you need better at
that position? So what would you say
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Josh Allen is for you? So
on a scale of one to five,
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I had him as a thirty seven. So anyway, you know, he
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defies the reason for this. He
not only is a number five, he's
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arguably the strongest number five in the
entire league. Like I think that if
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you talk about, like genuinely the
most valuable player and you remove even like
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we talked about Mahomes the best quarterback
in the league, he is phenomenal.
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But if you remove him with Andy
Reid and everything else still there, like
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I don't know, Like I almost
think it's a bigger impact to lose Josh,
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youwn. He is the most win
because of any player in the NFL,
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And unfortunately it's a pretty significant drop
when you go to Kyle Allen and
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Matt Barkley. I had them both
those ones. I had both of them
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as a one. I couldn't bring
myself to even put Allen as a two.
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I have them both as a need
better. But I've also come to
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grips with I look at the contracts
that like Taylor Heineke got this offseason getting
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like ten million dollars and you know
other like in the past years, it's
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been the Tyrone Taylor contracts, it's
been the Jacoby Brissette contracts, And just
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this roster is good enough that we
can go two and two in a four
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game span with Kyle Allen in there. It's not so good that if we
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lost Josh Allen for the rest of
the season it would matter anyways. So
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the amount of money it would take
to sign you know of couldn't. If
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I could get a better backup quarterback
for also super cheap, sure of course
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I would want that. And getting
Mitch Drubisky real cheap was great that one
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year. Yeah, I don't know
that there's a scenario that matters where I
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want to spend the extra money for
something that like, I don't know,
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is it actually gonna matter? None
of them are Josh Allen, and he,
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like Jakobe Past's probably the best backup
you can get right now, does
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he actually matter? Like are we
gonna actually do anything with him? And
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if we'd lose Joon for any extended
period of time, it doesn't matter anyway.
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So I'd rather be like, screw
it, just get guys to help
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him in the quarterback room. This
team goes as far as Josh Jackson.
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Absolutely, You're not wrong. I
think I thought of this for the guys
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under Josh a little differently to the
role that they have to. Okay,
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not that Kyle Allen and as a
starting QB, because I agree he's a
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one at that, but four I
have him as a two, where I
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think he's we probably need a little
bit of a better backup. I'd rather
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go three and one than two and
two in that stretcher talking about right,
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but I think he might be able
to be that. He mentioned it was
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good to get Mitch Trubisky that year. I don't know that Mitch Trubisky is
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a much better backup than Kyle Allen. To be honest, I think he
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probably told ourselves he was better because
of what he was picked. He was
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picked high, he was picked early, There was a lot of he was
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supposed to be good. He was
on a team that was good. But
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I mean, he didn't look very
good with the Steelers last year. Can
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he pick it really outshine him and
Kyle Allen? And you sort of pushed
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back on this earlier in the off
season when we were talking about his addition
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that he might be a little bit
better than I thought in terms of,
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like he's gotten some reps, he
might be able to be a decent backup
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in this league and a guy that
bounces around as a journeyman backup, which
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he could earn that right here with
Josh. And so I think he's a
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two and Matt Barkley's a one.
I think we know what he is.
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He's in practice squad, just there
to welcome families and be the you know,
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the ambassador for the Bills and be
Josh Allen's friend. Yeah. And
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so the one year that Kyle Allen
actually got a shot to play, he
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had one season in Carolina in twenty
nineteen, and he was okay, Like
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it was sixty yeah, sixty two
percent completion percentage, seventeen touchdown, sixteen
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interceptions, actually went five and seven, which is actually probably a pretty good
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achievement for as bad as that team
was. Um, So he was okay,
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Like he was a solid, you
know, had some athleticism, ran
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around a little bit um you know, So he was okay. He didn't
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have like case Keendom actually had some
pretty good NFL seasons where I mean he
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went like thirteen and three one year. Trubisky had had a pretty good season
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with the Bears there, So,
like I like the idea of being the
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team that cycled through the whoever the
next Andy Dalton, Tyrod case keenom like
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the guy who had a chance to
start, and I was kind of embracing
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the fact that he's not going to
start anymore. So but he still wants
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a paycheck. Like I kind of
like that idea. I would have rather
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that we got like the Sam Darnold
or someone like that. But I don't
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know that Kyle Allen is as big
of a drop off, is what we
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think, because again, any of
those guys like setting the bar at I
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don't know why I keep leaning and
Drewcoby Brissette, but like Leaning was the
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best available this yeah whoever like that, Like, hey, he actually probably
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is better than one of these other
youngsters. He's probably better than Desmond Ritter
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or someone like that who's going to
start games. But he's also not good
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enough to invest in, Like he's
still not he We're not gonna win a
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super Bowl, would you, Cocobe
Brissette. So if Josh Allen gets hurt
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for the year, it doesn't matter
anyways. And if it's anything shorter than
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that, our roster is good enough
that I don't know, there's a huge
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difference between what we do. Would
Youcobe Brisette versus Kyle Allen. So it
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is what it is, and and
maybe there's upside the Allen surrounded with this
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roster can be a little more functional
than that. We'll see. Yeah,
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I will say for a backup to
come in, it doesn't matter who it
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is here. Everyone wants that type
of backup that will be able to do
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the same things Josh Allen does.
I know a lot of people want that.
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Like there isn't anyone in the world
yea that we can get. Yeah,
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so you're gonna have the dumb down
the offense a little bit. Anyway,
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Now is probably the best time for
the Buffalo Bill's offense to ever have
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to have a backup play because you
have security blankets at the running back position.
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You have two security blankets at the
tight end position. Like you could
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probably simplify this offense with the playmakers
you have and still move chains like.
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It doesn't have to be the dynamic
that Josh does. It could be a
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game manager offense with the type of
weapons you have, which might play favor
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to Kyle Allen being a little bit
better than maybe he's needed. If anything,
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this has brought me around closer.
I was further away from this the
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last couple of years, but now
that Josh was going into year six and
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we're seeing where this is, I'm
now getting closer to ask, screw it,
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we might as well take a flyer
later in the draft and just see
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if you hit on some like backup
caliber, Like, hey, maybe you
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accidentally find a Kirk Cousins. Maybe
you accidentally find a whoever that is actually
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a functional, like playable quarterback at
Taylor Heineke kind of guy, and oh,
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hey, now we have a four
year contract, or you actually stumble
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into oh you might have a Jimmy
Garoppolo tradeable asset of things that, like
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I'm probably now in the business of
day three quarterback lottery ticket stuff where like,
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hey, is there really a difference
between whoever that fourth round pick is
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versus a Kyle Allen because they're both
cheap and if one's good, we at
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least get three more years out of
it, Like I'm probably with Kyle Allen
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now he does well. Kyle Allen
can then go to the third quarterback guy
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who gets cut and ends up on
the practice squad, but still gets to
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hang out the whole time because Barkley
can only do that for so long,
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so at some point they can switch
spots and then we'll go from there,
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all right, Any other final thoughts
on the position group for quarterbacks year before
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we switch to the coaching staff.
Josh looks good getting red visor. I
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feel good about it. God,
that Bison looks cool, like I wish
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I wasn't just a twelve year old, but it looks so cool. That's
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awesome. All right. The next
one is the coaching staff, and we're
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not going to go down. We
actually joked, as Aaron and I were
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getting for the show and doing our
prep, we were gonna do a game
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of like, name name two bills
assistant coaches and spot the lie. And
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I was gonna just ask, like, hey, uh who in here?
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We'll try one here. Um,
I'm gonna name three coaches. Two of
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them are real. One is a
lie, uh, Marcus West, Will
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Greenberg, Jason Osbart. Which one
is the one? I'm gonna say the
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Osbarts for real a person, because
I don't think just you didn't just make
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that. U. What was the
other names? Will Greenberg, Marcus West.
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I'm gonna say, well, Greenberg
is also a real person. No,
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it's a trick question. They're all
Bills coaches. Um. So it's
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like there's gonna be guys like they
cycle through the staff and that come in
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here that those were assistant defensive line
coach Marcus West and two assistant strength and
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conditioning coaches, which is probably a
stretch. I'm not big on strength and
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conditioning. Yeah, I know,
you know them, yeah, intimately.
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Um. So, obviously there were
some changes this year. I'm a little
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bit curious Joe Danna coming in as
the new safeties coach coming from Houston.
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Adam Henry coming into the new receivers
coach, probably the most impactful one of
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the new coaches because obviously we know, you know how highly you know that
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the he was thought of, you
know, coming in Henry replacing the previous
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wide receiver coaches like an impactful position
and now all of a sudden, you
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know, stepping into that role.
And we'll talk about some of the other
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guys that maybe have to have the
most you know, pressure from where they're
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at. Al Holcom also coming in
kind of one senior defensive assistant, former
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defensive coordinator, and that kind of
speaks into let's start on the defensive side
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of the ball. What are your
expectations for this Sean McDermott led defense,
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because I have a feeling you and
I are more excited than what other people
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seem to be, Like, yeah, I'm excited. Yeah, no,
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I'm super excited. I mean,
everyone knows, no secret. I love
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Leslie Frasier. I love this Bill's
defense. Philosophically, this Bill's defense is
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fun. Personally, I prefer the
crazy, blitzing, really super aggressive defenses,
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but this is a really fun defense
to see how they attack opponents.
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And that's what I'm really most curious
to see is maybe we get some merging
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of things that I like a little
bit more with the base base philosophy is
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not going to change. John Butler
was even talking about that right Like he
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was talking about some of these guys
coming in for year three. He's coaching
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the same philosophy to the defensive back. So that tells me structurally, the
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defense isn't going to change all that
much in terms of the responsibility. What's
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going to change is how they attack
the quarterback in pressures where they're sending guys
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from it's not going to be you
know, tarn Johnson's responsibility and coverage is
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still going to be Johnson's responsibility and
coverage what Poyer and high dude in those
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games, and this guy's coverage in
the back is still gonna look a lot
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the same. For the Bills,
it's gonna be some wrinkles and really changing
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tendencies and in certain spots where do
they bring some pressure those types of things,
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And obviously what they're going to do
with the middle linebacker spot has to
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change because you don't have a Tremaine
Edmonds freak pterodactyl in the middle of the
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field anymore so. But all those
changes feel exciting to me because I do
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I agree with Eric Turner that as
much as I love this defense and philosophically,
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it has become stale over the last
year and a half two years,
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and you it needed a change.
And while Sean McDermott didn't want Leslie Fraser
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to leave, I think the timing
couldn't have been better to force the change
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and get him back in there to
make whether it's them getting more aggressive or
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not, to make some type of
change that this defense isn't stale and teams
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can't just sit there like the Bengals
did in that game and just pick them
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apart and find the open spots in
these zones. So we won't be able
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to use Leslie Fraser as a scapegoat
anymore. That's also exciting, and I
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think it puts the pressure on Sean
McDermott to show that he really is the
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mastermind defensive guy that everybody around the
league says he is quick shout out to
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Andrew Barneson, his lovely wife.
We're watching the show, Andrew Wyce.
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You know he loves you very much. So I'm really excited about the combination.
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One, I like that there's pressure
on Sean McDermott. Two, I
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think people underestimate how like I'll talk
about it as like a for F one
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fans maybe that you can have the
same team building a car and it's going
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to perform it at that level,
and it is. The car is going
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to be what the car is,
but if you put a different driver in
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it, you're going to get slightly
different results. And that building the game
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plans, building the scheme, understanding
how they want to approach things, having
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a different person making sixty different decisions
during the game of which what defense he's
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calling each play, and how he
reacts to different scenarios and how he you
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know, talk about how insanely prepared
in meticulous McDermott is. I like the
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idea that he's now the guy nitpicking
the other offense and looking for weaknesses and
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looking for ways. And if you
go back and look at his Philadelphia and
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his Carolina teams, he ran bass
nickel. He ran a high level of
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zone. But he brought a lot
more pressure and blitz more than Leslie Frazier
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did. And I'm excited to see
that, and I'm excited about I think
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the combination that we're going to see. Also, losing Tremaine Edmonds isn't a
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good thing for the defense, but
having Tremaine Edmunds from a coverage standpoint was
501
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:43.599
such like a safety blanket, base
as a crotch like that, Like,
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well, we can't take him out
of there. Look at how much ground
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he covers. You gotta let him
keep doing that. Not having him forces
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you to move a few more of
the other chess pieces around that Okay,
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we need now, we can't always
drop Mica on Jordan back as far as
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we do, and hey, Tara, and we might need you to do
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this, or Matt, we might
need you to do that. And also
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we can blitz the linebackers more because
we're not always depending on having to drop
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him into that middle zone coverage,
the whole combination losing Tremaine, Sean McDermott
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stepping in, Sean McDermott feeling the
pressure of having to step in, Sean
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McDermott being that insanely overprepared, meticulous, you know, you know, nth
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degree kind of guy. I'm excited
to see where this goes, and I
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think it's going to be better than
fans realize. Yeah, and I think
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you know, we talked about I
just talked about that timing of Leslie Frazier's
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departure being good for the Tholse,
even though I think a lot of fans
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piled on him. I don't think
it's actually good to lose a coach like
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that at any point, but good
in that if forced their hand to make
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McDermott take this over Tremaine and Edmond's
leaving. Also, you're getting a guy
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that's now more aggressive of a coach
but now you're dealing with linebackers that you're
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forced to deal with their strengths.
And some of the strengths of these linebackers
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they're undersized, but they're missiles,
right, Like that's the idea is they
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can blitz. They can get either
one, whether it's Darren william Dorrian Williams,
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whether it's Darrell Bernard, brother,
it's Terrell Dotson. They at least
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have that downhill force, you know, being able to just shoot a Taylor
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rap to this right, like playing
around the line of scrimmage. And so
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you're just your personnel also that justin
Leans towar more in Taylor rap. Yeah,
527
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.360
Tarren Johnson, Taylor rap. Who's
coming, I don't know. But
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your your personnel is also leaning towards
where we think Sean McDermot is going,
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which is the idea of blitzing in
more aggressive nature from that front. Seven.
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Yeah, and I think that it's
it's going to be interesting to see.
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I also am interested to see who
has a voice in that. What
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do we see to you our assumption
at the beginning that hey, John Butler
533
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is officially listed as the passing game
coordinator. UM that's his official title.
534
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:57.000
UM l. Hocum is listed as
the senior defensive assistant Washington Washington is senior
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defensive assistant defensive line. So the
only one that as the word coordinator in
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the title is John Butler. So
I'm curious when they do get into that
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in training camp in other spots where
you have the traditional Ken Dorsey and used
538
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to be Leslie Frazier, is John
Butler going to be the guy sitting in
539
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that chair. That'll be interesting to
see. But I'm still excited. They've
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talked about how nice it was to
get McDermott back in the room. McDermott
541
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:28.760
was actually on with m McFee earlier
and was talking about you could see how
542
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:31.920
juiced up he was getting back into
this and that he's the kind of guy
543
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:37.360
that is he's a control freak,
obviously, he is probably you know,
544
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we've joked about this all the time. He's probably not the most fun guy
545
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:44.400
to work for. He's just a
crazy, try hard, you know,
546
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hard oh guy all the time and
like super intense about everything. But you
547
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:52.719
can tell getting away from the roots
of football and like the actual hands on
548
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coaching, I think it's kind of
re energized him a little bit. And
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that he's now has to balance having
that the overall you know, game planning
550
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kind of things, and that brings
in some of the other things like Mark
551
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Lubeck, who's the game management coach, the assistant quarterback coach and kind of
552
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:13.639
does some of that game management.
And then you talk about the staff that
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does some of the other pieces analytic
stuff. With the analytics side of things,
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I'm curious where some of those things
kind of lean. But having him
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as the in game defensive coordinator making
the play calls, I'm excited about Sean
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McDermot taking that role. Yeah.
And one of the things that he said,
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like he's not probably not a great
guy to work for. He also
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made a comment on that McAfee that
as you get the right people in,
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they start to recommend the right people
correct as well. Right, So we
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talk about culture a lot, they
talk about all this stuff and building it.
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I don't nobody I think in that
building thinks he's not great to work
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for, because they're all a bunch
of sha mcdermots, right, Like,
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he's gotten the right role underneath him, that know the process, they've worked
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with him in the past, and
they're a bunch of Shaan mcdermots out there
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right now, and he spoke very
highly of this staff, and I think
566
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you think, you know, bringing
in a Holcombe was a move. That
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is a good move to have a
guy that's called defenses, that has some
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steady work with Sean McDermot knows what
he wants out of this defense had to
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pull the game plan for this type
of defense. He's going to lean on
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this staff quite a bit. Butler
Holcombe. As much as we don't love
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Washington, he has also been a
play caller with a similar type defense,
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similar type philosophy, so he's not
scared. While he is a control freak,
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I think he's brought in enough people
that he's worked with and trusts that
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he's also not scared to put some
of this on those other guys. So
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I'm interested he who takes what and
the responsibilities. But ultimately, you know
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he's going to have hands on and
you know he's going to be more aggressive.
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Pat even at I was like,
all right, is this gonna get
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juice stuff? You know what I
mean? And Sean had to basically pull
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himself back from be like yeah,
yeah, yeah yeah, And I even
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00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:54.519
I should be more clear. I
think If you're kind of a lazy or
581
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:58.719
just like a go with the flow
kind of person, then he's not not
582
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:01.599
that fun to work for. If
you're like a very meticulous, organized,
583
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:05.880
detailed OCD kind of person, he's
probably fine. He probably works great.
584
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.239
It's probably really good to work with. All Right, let's flip over to
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the other side of the ball,
where there was a lot last year where
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I think you and I have tried
to share more of the It's hard for
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00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:22.039
blame because we just talked about number
two DBAA offense, second highest scoring offense
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in the league, scored the exact
same amount of points per game as the
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Brian Dable offense the year before.
But whatever blame less variants correct, Yeah,
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actually more consistent. They didn't have
the ninth the six point Jaguars games
591
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and the shellacking from the Colts going
the other direction. People, I think
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plays too much blame on Ken Dorsey
and not enough in Josh Allen that Hey,
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when the play call comes in the
play call from Ken Dorsey, isn't
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00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:52.360
hey, chuck it deep to Gabe
Davis on this play like Josh is making
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a read and making that decision.
With that aside, there are things that
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Ken Dorsey needs to improve on.
There are things that we need to see
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better utilization of some of the easy
stuff we got away from too much pre
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snap motion. We got away from
things like play action where we know those
599
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:14.880
are easy buttons in the NFL that
hey, you do those more, they
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produce better results. Those are things
you should be leaning on and utilizing more.
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What are your thoughts going into this
season of what you want to see
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from Ken Dorsey and what areas you
want him to improve on. Yeah,
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first of all, I got a
lot of pushback this Obfoason becau Stefan Diggs
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made some comments like basically I think
he said, you know, once we
605
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:36.840
got around week nine, the offense
fell changed and like that they were struggling.
606
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:38.440
I actually thought Ken Dorsey got a
little bit better as the year went
607
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:40.920
on. I won't lie. I
was very frustrated early on. I think
608
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he's got a little better as the
year went on. I'm not saying he
609
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got great, and I agree with
you he should have implemented more of the
610
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things that worked under Dable and more
of the things that worked for specific players
611
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:55.559
and utilizing the talent that they have. Dawson knocks man like I know everybody
612
00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:59.519
wants to talk about Don Kincave,
but Dawson knocks is a legit weapon on
613
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:06.320
this team, very underutilized last year. Gabe Davis. The type of utilization
614
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:10.280
for that for Gabe Davis. The
narrative around Gabe Davis mostly this offseason isn't
615
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:14.480
because of the player himself, in
my opinion, is how he was used
616
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:16.920
in the inefficient route running that he
was doing and the looks that he was
617
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:22.039
getting lead to an inefficient stat line
that you're going to see. So getting
618
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:27.320
easier stuff, making it easier on
Josh getting those reads right. Like you
619
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:30.079
said, Josh had that injury,
So the middle of the field stuff that
620
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:34.079
got taken out, that's some of
your more efficient stuff. I want to
621
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:37.440
make it simpler. You know,
Ken Dorsey has a lot to prove and
622
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:42.679
adding some of that stuff back in. And they have done a really good
623
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:46.360
job of adding a more physical nature
to this team, and I don't think
624
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:50.719
they had last year, and that's
going to give them that type of versatility
625
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:52.760
to add play action back into what
they're doing. Because play action. I
626
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:58.280
disagree with the analytics community that you
don't need to run the ball to get
627
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:02.039
play action I think you have to
establish physicality to get play action. I
628
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:06.280
think you have to get the defense
knowing that you're willing to run it,
629
00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:09.039
willing to get physical in order for
them to come up and bring up safeties
630
00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:13.039
and get those guys to creep up
a little bit so that play action.
631
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:15.079
Maybe you don't need the run for
play action to work, but for it
632
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:19.280
to work better, the defense has
to be thinking that you're really going to
633
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:22.719
do it. And I think they're
doing. They're adding to those depth pieces
634
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:24.679
and ways that's going to give them
that flexibility. I don't know if Kendorsey
635
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:29.960
can use it. Eric Turner and
Anthony did a pretty good job breaking down
636
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:32.840
some of what he and Shula were
doing in Carolina. That leads me to
637
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:36.920
think that the new two tight ends
set is going to be a real thing.
638
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:39.280
I don't think that we're just pulling
that out of our butts here that
639
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:43.360
he's going to use that more.
There is some data that shows yeah,
640
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:45.119
no, he would prefer to run
some of this stuff. They just didn't
641
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:50.239
have what they needed last year to
run it. So I do think it's
642
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.599
a weird one to you know,
we heap Pierre and Josh Allen and Brandon
643
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:55.880
being a set about the statistics of
this offense and how good they were.
644
00:42:57.320 --> 00:43:00.880
It's a little inflated. A lot
of that happened in spite of Ken Dorsey
645
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:04.320
being the play caller. That's just
Josh Allen being the fantastic guy that can
646
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:07.880
put a team on his back and
key moments and having Stefan Diggs. You
647
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:13.239
better have huge statistics with those types
of players. But he also wasn't the
648
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:17.079
lame duck coordinator and some like the
awful, terrible coordinator that people think.
649
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:22.440
It's just it's refining, and it's
just this was my concern with Ken Dorsey
650
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.800
the whole time, in this window
of you know, we all just assumed
651
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:30.320
if table left, will just pop
Dorsey in there. He knows Alan and
652
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:34.280
everything will just click. It's different, man, when you have a first
653
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:37.199
year on a job and the bullets
are flying for real and you're having to
654
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:40.239
make those decisions in the booth in
the game, like you can do all
655
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:43.719
the preparing you want, but nothing's
going to really prepare you for it,
656
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:46.000
like the actual experience of doing it. So we should have known there'd be
657
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:50.159
growing pains with the first year play
caller, and I think we just kind
658
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:52.320
of threw that out the window once
the season got started, just expected that
659
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:57.039
it was going to be fantastic and
the data, the analytics were good.
660
00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:00.920
It just didn't feel right. Well, the hard part was, I mean,
661
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:04.840
people don't. It's hard to remember
the moments in the season six weeks
662
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.239
the end of the year when the
Bills were five and one in Hin had
663
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:12.119
just beaten the Chiefs and you know, had were the number one in every
664
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:16.840
metric, and that Josh Allen was
the runaway MVP favorite. At that point,
665
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:22.599
we were legitimately discussing, oh my
god, did we accidentally upgrade at
666
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.800
offensive coordinator? And I would say
the same things about like, hey,
667
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:31.960
there were there's hindsight praise of Brian
Dable that annoys me. I loved Dable
668
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:35.880
as a person. I thought we
thought that for years he was really really
669
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:40.079
good. I literally would fight Drew
Gear on a weekly basis about the hey,
670
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:43.199
Brian Dable is not as bad as
you're making him out to be,
671
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:47.719
and that some of that offensive success
was because of Josh Allen in spite of
672
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:52.079
Brian Dable, the same way that
some of it was because of Josh Allen
673
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:58.800
in spite of Ken Dorsey and Dable
contributed to it, and Ken Dorsey contributed
674
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:01.719
to it. It's we we have
this weird hindsight that Brian Dable was this
675
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:07.280
flawless offensive game planner. Oh my
god, there's so many fire day ball
676
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.679
hashtags, the fight against trying to
get run that guy out of town until
677
00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:15.280
the playoffs. Really it wasn't.
He didn't shot everybody up until the end
678
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:19.760
of that season. I mean that
Carolina game. Uh yeah, Like,
679
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:22.559
there's a bunch of stinkers. He
put up two games before that play that
680
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:27.760
the perfect play. The Falcons game
was the second last game of the year.
681
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:31.280
We were horrible. If Matt Ryan
didn't mess up game, yeah,
682
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:37.519
he didn't gift us that game.
So yeah, so yeah, I agree
683
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:42.559
with you that the hindsight unfair.
Um I am willing. I think my
684
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:45.880
leash on Dorsey is a little bit
bigger than others too. Like, um,
685
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:47.800
if we're doing a rating here like
we did for the players, I
686
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:52.079
would have Dorsey as a three,
which is good enough to win with.
687
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:55.840
I think he's on par with most
offensive coordinators league wide. Here's another conversation.
688
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.239
I don't we talk about wanting like
these tie ends top of offensive coordinators,
689
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:05.199
there aren't a lot of brilliant once
you dropped down after like Shamahan and
690
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:08.199
read and made McDaniel hey, I
don't know, like McDaniel, Like once
691
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:12.320
you get past like the top handful, I don't know, Like there's a
692
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.280
fine you know, there's an awful
lot of guys who look real good when
693
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:20.559
you have a great quarterback. I'm
real curious how great does Matt Lafleur look
694
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:22.760
now that he has Jordan Love instead
of Aaron Rodgers, Like, are you
695
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:27.000
really that good? We're going to
find out. So there's a lot of
696
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:30.000
things like that that we'll see where
it goes. Ken Dorsey has more to
697
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:34.440
prove. He needs to improve,
But I also think it's silly to think
698
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.639
that he was going to be some
finished product in the It was the first
699
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:42.840
year ever calling plays. He had
never called plays in the NFL in any
700
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:45.320
level of football. It was his
first time calling plays. So I think
701
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:49.239
it's very logical that, yeah,
of course he's going to have some level
702
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.639
of improvement and some self evaluation and
some lessons learned and some areas he wants
703
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:55.639
to improve on. And for me, it was those points I brought up
704
00:46:55.639 --> 00:47:00.880
at the beginning, I want more
easy button. I want lean into the
705
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:05.440
things that all of the data and
numbers tell you work. You want to
706
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.880
know what we see across the league, every team, even bad teams.
707
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:15.639
Pre snap motion helps you and it
works. Play action works. Passing out
708
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:20.960
of twelve and twenty one personnel works. You know, play action on first
709
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:25.760
down specifically works like those are things
that we know unequivocally, regardless of how
710
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:30.719
good your team is, those are
things that work. So lean into those
711
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:35.800
things more where we know, hey, just leaning that direction and taking advantage
712
00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:38.199
of that. Then you add in
the fact that you have Josh and you
713
00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:43.360
have Stefan Diggs. You've added in
this new dynamic and your point on play
714
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:47.639
action. I think the analytics crowd
is right on the whole. But what
715
00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:53.079
they're not talking about is when you
have a team like Buffalo that is so
716
00:47:53.199 --> 00:48:00.559
good passing the ball and so average
running the ball, of course they're gonna
717
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:04.639
lean further that direction. If you
know, add in more of an actual
718
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:09.760
threat. When Josh Allen puts the
ball in Latavia's Murray's belly and we have
719
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:13.440
two tight ends out there and they
know that, oh my god, they're
720
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:16.199
going to be able to convert and
then he pulls it out. It's more
721
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:20.440
of a threat for those linebackers and
those safeties having to check on it,
722
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:23.360
and then he pulls it back out
and can throw versus. Hey, we
723
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:28.599
hope you hand it off to the
guy that's there, because we would no
724
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:30.920
matter who it is, we'd rather
you hand its land then go back here.
725
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:36.079
It's a win. Getting some level
of threat there really can help.
726
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:37.960
And I think that leaning in.
Just give me more of the easy button
727
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:42.239
stuff. And I'm not saying it
has to be. Obviously in the Super
728
00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:46.480
Bowl seeing Andy Reid's scheme up,
give me two gimme touchdowns where guys walked
729
00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:50.159
into the end zone. That's great. I'd love some of that too,
730
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:53.000
But just get me. I don't
need razzle, dazzle. I don't need
731
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:57.639
you know, trick plays. Those
are fun, but that's not those are
732
00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:00.440
you know? Those are five or
six plays of a thousand in the season.
733
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:06.119
I want, over and over again, smash the easy button for stuff
734
00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:10.719
that we know works. Glean into
that those things and then let Josh Allen
735
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:15.480
and Stefan Diggs be the difference.
Don't force them to be the difference in
736
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:19.599
spite of the fact that you're going
away from easy stuff. Yeah, so
737
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:24.920
I've heard people talk about it.
Do you believe Ken Dorsey c is hot
738
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:30.519
in year two or like I could
say, if the wheels fall off,
739
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:35.000
how aby this shore? Yeah,
if he has similar success to a year
740
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:38.960
ago. Yeah, if we're it's
exactly I've talked about this with Sean McDermott,
741
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:42.440
with Brandon Bean, Ken Dorsey,
They're all in the same boat.
742
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:46.840
Like, if everything goes haywire and
Josh Allen is healthy and we miss the
743
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:52.280
playoffs, everyone should be in question. I would be okay if anyone's fired,
744
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:55.360
Like, if we go that wrong
with this much talent and it's not
745
00:49:55.880 --> 00:50:00.119
Josh Allen injury related, everybody should
be in question, and everybody's seat should
746
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:06.639
be hot enough. I will,
yeah, don't there's copyat you know,
747
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:09.239
if if Joshanna Stefon Diggs play fourteen
plus games whatever it is, Yeah,
748
00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:13.719
yeah, yeah, Um, everyone
should be in question. I won't,
749
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:16.079
you know, I'll probably argue for
some people more than others. Um,
750
00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:21.920
everything above, there is a gradient
above there. If we are top five
751
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:27.519
in offense again and make the playoffs
as a dangerous team and kind of you
752
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:31.000
know, get eliminated earlier than we
should again, hard questions will be asked,
753
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:35.840
and that will probably start the hot
seat for the next year. I
754
00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:37.159
don't think people are going to get
fired over that, even though there'll be
755
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:40.679
a lot of frustration and I'll be
mad again if we get eliminated earlier than
756
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:45.800
we should and those things happen if
we win the division again and win a
757
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:50.239
playoff game and win a shootout in
the division round, or go to the
758
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:54.360
AFC Championship and lose again, and
it's frustrating, and it's two Patrick Mahomes
759
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:59.000
again, like it's gonna suck,
But nobody's getting fired. No one's gonna
760
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:01.920
get fired over that. It's just
that's what happens. Now. You're in
761
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:05.960
that tier of really good stuff and
anything above there. You know, if
762
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:07.599
we went to Super Bowl, they'll
build statutes of everybody and they're gonna have
763
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:13.920
contracts for life. So there's a
gradient of all those different things. I
764
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:19.360
don't short of something truly surprising,
which would be a healthy season from Josh
765
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:23.360
Jonen Stefan Diggs with a subpar Like, hey, Alan and Diggs are healthy,
766
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:27.519
and we have the twelfth best offense, Okay, Now, all of
767
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:30.880
a sudden, yeah, we gotta
ask questions. And I'd be okay if
768
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:32.400
they say, hey, we gave
it a shot. We tried to keep.
769
00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:37.960
You know, they obviously leaned into
Ken Dorsey because there was a level
770
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:43.559
of continuity and trust with Josh Hwen, not because he was unequivocally the best
771
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:46.280
candidate available. They didn't do They
didn't cast a net. They didn't search
772
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:51.880
for like, hey, who is
the best offensive mind available. They very
773
00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:55.719
specifically said, hey, we think
we have a candidate in house. We
774
00:51:55.840 --> 00:52:00.320
don't need to cast a net.
We're going to stay with continuity. If
775
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:05.400
we know, take a sizable step
back and we still make the playoffs.
776
00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:09.000
But it's despite the offense, and
it's it's clunky and struggling. Okay,
777
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:12.880
then I could see it, but
it would have to be something to that
778
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:16.880
degree that healthy Owen and Diggs outside
the top ten in offense and we're winning
779
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:20.800
despite that, and all of a
sudden it say, hey, it just
780
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:22.960
we gave it a shot, but
we need a new voice in here,
781
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:25.480
we need new play caller. Yep
makes sense. And you know, fortunately
782
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:29.920
for the Bills, having a job
opening of hey, do you want to
783
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:32.239
call plays for Josh Allen and Stefon
Diggs is going to get an awful lot
784
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:35.960
of resumes. So I mean they
have one in the house. Brady will
785
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:39.360
just yeah, Joe Brady will happily
one of those players. Yeah, let's
786
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:44.280
see where that goes. So I
said to you, and that's when we
787
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:45.400
were coming up with how we're going
to break down this show and make it
788
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:51.039
a full hour instead of just talking
about Josh Allen for fifteen minutes without getting
789
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:55.320
into every single positional coach here and
grading those guys for you, which positional
790
00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:59.760
coach going into this year has the
most to prove underneath the guys we just
791
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:05.760
talked about. So it's I debated
back and forth of what's there and for
792
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:09.000
me for this year, I think
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with
793
00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:15.760
Aaron Kromer in that it's he's been
given a lot of new toys, He's
794
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:22.000
been given new pieces. He's gonna
have a healthy offseason with Spencer Brown,
795
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:29.519
and we need it to come together. We need him to figure out who
796
00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:35.760
the right combination of five is.
We need him to fix Spencer Brown and
797
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:39.840
protecting Josh Allen is the number one
thing like, I don't want to read
798
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:43.480
a lot of other names of guys
you might pick, Like there are logical
799
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:45.400
reasons I could pick a handful of
other people, but I'm gonna go with
800
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:52.519
Aaron Kromer in that protecting Josh Allen
and utilizing you know, whether it's it
801
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:55.440
could be David Edwards, it could
be Sicken with Bates, it could be
802
00:53:55.519 --> 00:54:01.000
Osyrestaurants, it could be like Blocker, it could be Bates threatening Spencer Brown.
803
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:06.679
Just find the right combination of five, find that sixth guy who can
804
00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:10.679
come into the jumbo set offensive lineman
and let them gell and bring it together
805
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:15.719
and protect Josh. Yeah, I
mean, I'm not going to make that
806
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:20.719
pick, but protect Josh Allen was
like my movement just a couple of months
807
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ago, So I don't disagree that
that's a good one for me. It's
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gonna be Eric Washington, and it
was easy. Yeah, it was an
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easy choice for me. He's been
here since twenty twenty. I can't say
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that he's led to the development of
any of the young assets that they've given
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him. And we talk about Chromer
getting a lot of assets, I don't
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know that anyone's been given more than
certainly draft in add Oliver, you got
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Basham, Epanessa grew then you go
and make a huge swing for von Miller.
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Obviously, von Miller is gonna be
good regardless of who the coaches and
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a lot of these vets. You
know, so he hasn't really developed anyone.
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Maybe we can give him a little
bit credit for group has developed.
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I think just gonna say Russo is
probably the only one who has performed of
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the expectation. Yeah, Like I'm
ready to pick up his fifth year option.
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Yeah, you know what I mean. Like I he's a part of
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the future of this team. I
can't say the same for JP and S.
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I can't say the same for Boogie
Basham. I can't say the same
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for at Oliver unfortunately, and then
you look at the other guys that they
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brought in. Those guys were I
don't think I've gotten better. You know,
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they came in as veterans throughout the
league and they've performed well. D
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Quon Jones had a good year.
Subtle played worse for US than he did
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for wash Shore. Sure Jones played
real well, but I don't know that
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it was play the way he was
supposed to play. Yep, um and
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so somebody needs to step up here. I need to see a big year
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from a bash them. I need
to see a big year from anp and
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S and at Oliver one of these
guys that's going to go off and get
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another contract and Bills are going to
get a compic needs to be because Eric
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Washington developed one of them. New
assistant defensive line coach Marcus West, Yeah,
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maybe that's the key, baby,
that's the Hey, maybe he's going
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to be the guy to do it, but that's the one to me.
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It just he got the promotion to
the senior defensive assistant and I just it's
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hard for me too because I don't
like to play too much blame. I'm
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sure he's a good coach. Von
Miller speaks highly of everyone, but he's
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spoken highly of him. I don't
know what goes on behind the scenes.
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All I can say is from the
fan perspective that I have, and I'm
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a little bit more than a fan. I covered the team. I watched
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this team very close. I look
at it. I just haven't seen high
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assets like an At Oliver and bash
him in Epanessa. You expect more,
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and out of three of those guys, none of them meeting their expectations is
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a bit of a red flag for
I think it's very well stated, and
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he was my debate for the two. I think you can talk about,
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you know, Adam Henry's stepping into
big shoot. Why can't I think of
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the wide receiver coach name from leicst
Year that everybody loved that they bought him
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a truck. Now that you just
said that, I would have had it
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totally. Somebody in the chat,
like I'm having a total brain first chat's
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going to tell us here in a
second. But like Adam Henry stepping into
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a spot with some high expectations to
be able to chat Hall Chat Hall,
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good lord, m stepping into Chad
Hall's spot. You know, I think
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that's some high expectations. Um.
You know, I think that there's you
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know, Rob Boris being able to
develop um not only a fourteen million dollars
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tight end but also a first round
pick um to be able to be in
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that spot. So those guys who
have some pressure and need to do it.
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But I think on the offense Aeron
Chromer and not the defense, Eric
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Washington makes total sense, and you
say it all the time. The game
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is still one of the trenches.
Yeah, I think another h Kelly skipper.
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The amount of assets that they've put
into that running back room and Cook
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coming into a big year or two
leave that you want to see you go
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from him. They've given him a
lot of assets. But yeah, for
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me, it's still definitely Aeric Washington. All right, Well, I think
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that this actually became a better conversation
than we always do. We always do,
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so we appreciate everybody in the chat. This has been a ton of
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fun. We're going to do this
all offseason long, going through each position.
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As we go through, talking about
the running backs, wide receivers,
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tight ends, uh, you know, offensive line, everything coming up in
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the coming weeks here. So really
excited to be able to talk through that
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with everybody and get you guys ready
leading all the way up through these OTAs,
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through the mandatory camps, all the
way up to training camp. It's
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going to be a ton of fun
and Cover One's going to be there with
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you the entire time. Make sure
checking out an entire lineup all the shows
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that we have, going to Skuy's
coverage, going deep um the air raid
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ho where all the guys doing all
the different work er Eric's film room.
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Everything that's available, We're gonna be
ready for you. Any final thoughts for
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the people are yeah, not really. You got anything good going on for
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a Memorial Day weekend? Crept up
on me here. Yeah, it's looking
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beautiful here in Western New York.
Have you been doing anything good over in
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your area. We got a surprise
sixtieth birthday party for my aunt down in
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Columbus, going down to see her, and Columbus is a nice ready Yeah,
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00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:51.840
yeah, So we're gonna head down
there and had some fun. I
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get to hang out with Chris Chris
Kapner and I are going that's awesome.
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Were cool. That's it. Baby, It's not gonna be pretty for me,
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but I'll still be fine. That's
fine. He is that you have
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a good time. Anyways, the
speaking of which on behalf of our fantastic
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producer Chris Kepner and Aaron Quinn.
I am Greg Thompson. You've been listening
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