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Welcome back, listeners, and welcome back, Josh.
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Hey, how's it going?
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Man, it's doing good.
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I really like...
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honestly, these podcasts, man, they're really good.
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I like them.
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Yeah.
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know about you
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it's one of those things where sometimes I think there's people who they want to be authors, for instance, but they don't want to write, right?
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They want to have written a book, but they don't actually wanna write the book.
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There's people who want to own a business, but you're like,"Oh, what, what kind of business do you want?" I don't know, but just something where I have total control over the thing and I'm my own boss." You're like so what is that?"
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yeah
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"I don't know." I think there's some people who like the idea of something more than doing it.
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And I gotta say, I think this is actually one of those things, partially'cause I like talking to you, but where it doesn't really matter what we end up with because I think it's just fun doing it.
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So I agree with you there.
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Yep.
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No, and honestly, it's just we've had numerous episodes about work from home, and being fully working from home, it's just nice.
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feel, again, it's like my, my wife put it perfectly one day, which was, we like bring the office to the work from home, right?
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We're just like a couple of nerds that like talking around a water cooler.
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It's like what you would have if you actually went into an office and
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Yeah
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it's the part I miss.
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It's the part I miss,
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we could use more windows
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this
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in it, but
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right, so episode, gonna be a little bit deeper because, the...
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I can't-- So I, as I do, be things that happen in my life and I'm like,"Oh my God, this is such a good episode idea." And I don't have time to write it down, so I just like v-voice record a message to you, right?
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And I go,"Hey, man, this, there, here's an idea.
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Let's do it," right?
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I appreciate those, by the way.
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I- it's funny, you don't really text very much,
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No
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but you do these voice messages and they're great.
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And I can't really respond.
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I just really wanna text back but they're great, and I appreciate them
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s- side- sidebar, I do think texting is so rude when you're hanging out with someone,
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Sure
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And so it's when I'm around people, I don't wanna you t- someone text me, I don't wanna pull my phone out and start texting someone.
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I wanna be there for that person, and I just feel like voice messaging is less rude it's almost s- speaking in a different language in front of someone versus speaking in their language.
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It's just as long as they know you're commu- what you're saying and communicating with someone else, they're almost part of the conversation too, so
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You have the sort of asynchronous benefit of the text, right?
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Where oh, maybe the person can't respond right away, but it's on their schedule, but then it's intimate too.
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I prefer Talking to people over texting.
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Yeah
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I'm also actually a bad text responder.
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I would rather call people, but often I feel like it's so intrusive.
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I have to know that they're able to take a call right now.
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Which works for my girlfriend,
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vo- v-
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but
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voice messaging is perfect.
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It's a perfect in between.
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You're being your...
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It's less intrusive, but you get the same, don't know, voice,
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you're convincing me.
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Yeah it's personal, in a way that texting is not.
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Yeah.
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okay.
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sidebar over.
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So anyways, this, this idea came from, my, my grandpa just recently passed, And at the eulogy, my uncle went up to the podium, and he said something that really stuck with me, and it was that my grandpa was a I forgot the words he, he used, but like a sentinel, right?
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He was-- he brought people together.
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when no one el- no one else brought the family together, my grandpa brought the family together, right?
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He was the one that always came up with the plans.
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He created a whole campground that we can go hang out at.
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Our whole family goes and hangs out at this campground now because of him he was a person he was the reason our family was so close together, right?
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But it made me realize that, that is how things are, right?
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We-- There are people in your life, both friends and family, and if you think about the roles that people play, some of those roles people play as planners and bringing people together, then the other people are the people that just go with the plans.
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And if no one makes plans, then they don't try to make plans.
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No matter how much they want to hang out with you, they probably don't initiate, right?
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They always wait for the other person to initiate.
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Yeah
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my uncle, he called it, I think he called it sentinel, right?
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And I don't know if that's the right word to use, but it's like there's certain types of people who those types of people who are constantly trying to make plans and constantly bringing people together.
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It's something I recognize that it's true in everyday life too, what do you think about that?
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Yeah.
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When I think about my, my high school friend group, for instance, right?
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Shout out to anybody who's listening.
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But my high school friend group has stayed together pretty good in all the time since high school, right?
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Yeah
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which you can do the math, but it's like half of my life ago, right?
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Is basically when we stopped formally seeing each other day to day, right?
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Yeah
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And I think some of that is that there is like at least one person that I can think of who's very keen on"Hey, we're gonna make sure we organize events.
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We're gonna go and do stuff." And I, would we all still get together, still talk if this one person wasn't part of the group?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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As much as we all like each other's presence
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wanna hang out with
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we wanna hang out.
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hang...
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but it's
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one person that's like the glue, right?
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And I think that is true, right?
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Now sometimes people step up to that plate, like when that person isn't there, right?
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For instance you might have that at work too, right?
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Where you say,"Hey, this person is actually the reason this team works." And when they're not there, sometimes
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ja.
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people feel like they need to fill in that gap.
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But they can't...
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A lot of people can't do that sustained, right?
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They can't do that all the time, right?
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They can hold the...
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I think of this is such a silly example, but I think of like Spider-Man, like holding the halves of the train together.
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yeah, that's it, right?
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Yeah.
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Like that's not a long-term solution to to the
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It is a long-term solution i- if that's how relationships work.
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But it's interesting'cause it, to your point, like every-- There's a lot of people I talk to who there are a lot of times where I hear a story where"Oh yeah, we used to hang out all the time, but then like this one person moved and now we-- none of us hang out." it's like,"Oh, do you hate each other?" They're like no, they were just, they were the ones that made the plan, once they were gone, we just all stopped hanging out." know?
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Yeah.
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Yeah it's hard because like life is busy, right?
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And it's very easy to fill life with things.
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Yeah
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and so I have, personally, like I'm...
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if you had to put me on the side of like planner or somebody who just like attends events, right?
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if these are the extremes, right?
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I'm closer to the
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planner.
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Pl- are you a planner or an attender?
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That's, I like
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Yeah, it's handy
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the, that, those are good labels.
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Yeah.
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I am probably closer to the attendee, right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah
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do initiate from time to time, right?
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Yeah
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and often it's in that kind of like gap void feeling of"Hey,
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yeah
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haven't done something recently.
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Let's go do something." But I'm much more likely to be the person who's I would consider it like an accelerant.
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Like
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Yeah,
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somebody plans something I'm the one that's like,"Okay, let's do it.
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Let's, let's make sure this thing,"
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yeah
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the fire doesn't go out.
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Ja.
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but I'm much less likely to li- light the flame.
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No, I do, right?
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Like I-- We have a fire pit in our backyard, and there's a lot of times where I'll invite people out to I'm like,"Hey, I just wanna have a fire, and I want people to come together."
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Yeah.
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it's not really for the sake of people coming together.
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It's for the sake of me not doing this thing that I wanna do by myself.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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but that's all it takes sometimes.
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Yeah.
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And it, it's hard playing that role as or planner, Because are pains in butts, and you-- like you said the attenders, those tend to be people who won't move thing the in their life out of the way to attend,
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Угу
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and of course, it's not black and white, it's always a sliding scale.
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But the planner has to work through all of these pains-in-the-butt people from people who are just easy to plan with, like you, who are-- they just have to light some sort of spark, but, and then it goes.
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But then there's the other side of the scale, which it's like,"Oh I only can hang out on Wednesday from 5 to 6 PM." So
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Right
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it works, like that, it's like, okay, I gotta map a, a...
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I have to come up with a Venn diagram of how we can hang out,
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yeah, I think of
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when it's a big group of people, you have to almost bend over backwards.
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Yeah.
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The competing interests.
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I, and it's become harder obviously, like I have kids now, right?
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Yeah
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okay, this is like a lot more of a conversation,
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Yeah
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than it was before, right?
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Say seven years ago, somebody could go and say to me,"Hey you wanna come out and do this?" Y- let's say a trivia night, right?
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Yeah.
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And I was like, I'd go 90% of the time.
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If they said it started at 11:00 PM I might be...
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I like to be in bed by 11:00."
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Yeah
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I, definitely on the earlier side.
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But like largely I was willing to go.
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Now I'm just way more in the camp of"Oh, I, I have to make sure that this makes a lot of sense,"
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Oh, so you're no longer an accelerator.
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You're
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no, no
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people.
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I have to jump through hoops to to make sure it aligns properly.
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Yeah, it's like I really want to say yes.
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It's just that I have so many competing things.
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Like I, I'm not somebody who will wait until there's five people going before I say yes, right?
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I will say yes like immediately if I can.
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Yeah.
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But
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said something interesting a few minutes, moments ago about how this applies to work too.
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To that point, you're correct.
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I never even thought about it as I thought this was like 100% personal, but like this definitely applies.
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And almost that point, I find leaders, like leadership roles, people who are more planners, teams are way more cohesive, right?
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Because that, that, that leader who's thinking about,"Hey, how do we hang out and do things?" And,"Let's play a board game," or,"Let's do this," or,"Let's do that," like team and team outings, those teams are way more cohesive because of that, right?
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That's a it's, that's actually a really cool, interesting idea.
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I never even thought about it like that,
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yeah.
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I, let's go to the other extreme end, I think, which is I also have some friends who I don't think they plan anything.
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The...
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No, no offense to them.
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This is not like a judgment call, right?
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To be very clear, right?
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zone.
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This was Planet Fitness.
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Yeah.
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But people who basically very rarely attend anything never plan things.
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Yeah
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And they're like fine being to themselves, right?
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Yeah
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Th- these are the people I wish I saw more, I think, honestly in life.
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But a selfish wish, right?
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My, my general wish is that oh, like I see the people I wanna see on a regular basis.
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And some people have different like levels where they want that, right?
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Bien
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I think that can be...
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imagine, I don't not to attack the planners here, right?
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But
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yeah
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there are some times where it's like, they're...
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Somebody wants to get everybody together so bad that they step on people's toes.
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They're like,"Come on, get out over here." And they're like,"Nah, it's not...
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I have my kids.
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It's not a good time." you can definitely go too far in the trying to get everybody together
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Yeah.
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side of things.
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Yeah
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but that's all I can say negative.
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I really think that the planners are the people I have the most respect for and
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f-
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wish were-
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feel- I'm feeling attacked by you now, Josh.
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I wish more people would
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Yeah, no.
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No, it's
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Devil's advocate, I can also go on the extreme side and say that there's some issue here but I wish more people
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is definitely times where it's like people can be pushy they're just like,"Oh, come on.
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Don't be a stick in the mud,
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Yeah
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Come on." I get that too.
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No, it's, a- and obvious- and honestly, this is not like a, a self-revelation that only I've had and that we've talked about because I don't-- Have you ever watched that movie?
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I think it's"Without a Paddle." I it was called"Without a Paddle."
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I don't know.
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No, I don't think so
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that movie?
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It was like a comedy movie from I think like the'90s or early 2000s the premise behind it was that one of a bunch of friend like four friends get together w- their fifth friend died, and A planner.
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He was the planner of the friend group, and he was-- And he ended up dying, and he was trying so hard to get them together to go on one last like treasure hunt/camping trip, everybody else like was too busy and couldn't do it, so then when he died, it was like his final get-together, and they went on one final trip.
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was the best, it was the best movie, man.
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You should watch it.
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Yeah.
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It, so it is Without a Paddle, 2004.
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It's a comedy
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Oh, 2004.
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Man, early 2000s, man.
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They had some slappers, but like that was, that, that was a, that was the whole movie was about a planner of a friend group that and everybody else kinda pushed off, right?
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I- it's it is a very common thing, and it's interesting how it always is.
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It work, seems like it works out that way.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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an interesting idea
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Yeah, I ultimately I, I-- You know that phrase be the change you wanna see in the world, right?
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I fully recognize that if I appreciate planners so much, I should try to be more of a planner, right?
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Yeah.
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I do want to get people together.
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I think that people getting together is, a lot of the joy of living, right?
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It's the connections you make with other people.
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And, it, it's hard because I'm also totally content in my daily life.
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One of the reasons I tend to be more of a, an attendee is I'm like: You know what?
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Life is already good.
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I don't need to improve.
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Yeah,
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so it is hard for me to get the motivation.
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But then when I do get together, I'm like: Oh, this is why I do it.
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This is so nice, right?
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Yeah
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life's 100, but it could be 110,
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yeah, yeah, yeah。Yeah。
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for an 80'cause it's good enough, but I really could be a 95, right?
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Yeah。Yeah。
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whatever kind of comparison you wanna make.
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But yeah, I think that it can be hard sometimes to bring people together'cause it is work, right?
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Yeah.
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And sometimes, we've been burned in the past when we go and try to get people together, and
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And then everybody has differing opinions, so then they fight with each other, and
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Yeah
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gets in the mix, and then it's even worse, and
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It's like, why did I put in all this effort and then nothing happened?
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Yeah.
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But then it's it's also like one of those things that you, know, on- once it doesn't happen for a few years, and when a few years, like 10, like tens of years, like Years, 20 years, you look back and you're like,"Man, I really miss that."
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Yeah.
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I
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And sometimes maybe I should be the person that reaches out, right?
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I haven't seen this person in 10 years.
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I actually just talked to a friend who said they used to have this friend before they moved to California.
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and they came back recently, and this person is never able to attend things, right?
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And they're just like,"Man, I wish I could have that moment back where we didn't break the chain of getting together," and figuring that out.
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So
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Yeah.
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This is this episode goes out to all you planners out there all you
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Thank you for what you do
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You know, all the hard work you have to deal with, all these pains in the butts to people together just to only get appreciated two years later
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And here's to all you attendees who could be planners, or even if you plan like once in a blue moon.
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I, not to go on a whole tangent here, right?
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But it's it's...
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This is gonna be a weird thing.
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It's like veganism, right?
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Or vegetarianism
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okay.
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You're losing me.
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Yeah, I'll g- I'll get you back, I swear.
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There, or going life without a car, for instance,
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Yeah,
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right?
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There are these things that feel really hard to do in the abstract, right?
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I could never become vegetarian because I like steak so much, right?
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I could never go without a car,'cause how would I visit my friends, right?
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And a lot of these things maybe you don't think that the- these are problems at all, right?
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I'm definitely the kind of I wish I would be a little bit...
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I think that there, it's environmentally more friendly to not drive a car, to be vegetarian, but I just can't do it, right?
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I love steak, right?
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I have to see my friends who live in the woods.
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And,
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You're losing me, Josh.
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Hold on.
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I'm gonna get you back, I swear.
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Sometimes you can be an attendee, right?
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Yeah
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You can be an attendee most of the time.
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All you have to do is just be a little bit more of a planner, Right?
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You don't have to use your car for every trip.
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You could walk sometimes.
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You don't have to be a vegetarian 100% of the time.
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You could have a little bit less meat with some of your dishes, right?
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I think some people are like all or nothing.
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"I have to be a planner.
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I have to be, 100% this thing." It's like no, just plan once a year, right?
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Yeah.
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a little bit more than you do.
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It's never too late
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n- it's nev- it's never too late.
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Just st- start planning.
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Make, this be the sign to you
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It might be too late when you die and then your friends decide to go on a treasure hunt on a river.
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That might be too
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Yeah.
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you know?
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At least something good came from your death.
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I don't
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Yeah.
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A good comedy movie.
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Maybe I have to go and watch this movie now.
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Where is it?
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Hulu?
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you should watch it.
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It's pretty good.
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All right
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yes.
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Okay
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you have a good night, Josh.
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You too, Jesse.
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Have a good one.
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Welcome back, listeners, and welcome back, Josh.
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Hey, how's it going?
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Man, it's doing good.
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I really like...
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honestly, these podcasts, man, they're really good.
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I like them.
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Yeah.
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know about you
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it's one of those things where sometimes I think there's people who they want to be authors, for instance, but they don't want to write, right?
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They want to have written a book, but they don't actually wanna write the book.
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There's people who want to own a business, but you're like,"Oh, what, what kind of business do you want?" I don't know, but just something where I have total control over the thing and I'm my own boss." You're like so what is that?"
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yeah
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"I don't know." I think there's some people who like the idea of something more than doing it.
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And I gotta say, I think this is actually one of those things, partially'cause I like talking to you, but where it doesn't really matter what we end up with because I think it's just fun doing it.
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So I agree with you there.
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Yep.
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No, and honestly, it's just we've had numerous episodes about work from home, and being fully working from home, it's just nice.
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feel, again, it's like my, my wife put it perfectly one day, which was, we like bring the office to the work from home, right?
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We're just like a couple of nerds that like talking around a water cooler.
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It's like what you would have if you actually went into an office and
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Yeah
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it's the part I miss.
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It's the part I miss,
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we could use more windows
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this
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in it, but
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right, so episode, gonna be a little bit deeper because, the...
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I can't-- So I, as I do, be things that happen in my life and I'm like,"Oh my God, this is such a good episode idea." And I don't have time to write it down, so I just like v-voice record a message to you, right?
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And I go,"Hey, man, this, there, here's an idea.
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Let's do it," right?
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I appreciate those, by the way.
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I- it's funny, you don't really text very much,
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No
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but you do these voice messages and they're great.
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And I can't really respond.
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I just really wanna text back but they're great, and I appreciate them
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s- side- sidebar, I do think texting is so rude when you're hanging out with someone,
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Sure
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And so it's when I'm around people, I don't wanna you t- someone text me, I don't wanna pull my phone out and start texting someone.
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I wanna be there for that person, and I just feel like voice messaging is less rude it's almost s- speaking in a different language in front of someone versus speaking in their language.
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It's just as long as they know you're commu- what you're saying and communicating with someone else, they're almost part of the conversation too, so
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You have the sort of asynchronous benefit of the text, right?
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Where oh, maybe the person can't respond right away, but it's on their schedule, but then it's intimate too.
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I prefer Talking to people over texting.
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Yeah
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I'm also actually a bad text responder.
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I would rather call people, but often I feel like it's so intrusive.
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I have to know that they're able to take a call right now.
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Which works for my girlfriend,
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vo- v-
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but
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voice messaging is perfect.
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It's a perfect in between.
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You're being your...
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It's less intrusive, but you get the same, don't know, voice,
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you're convincing me.
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Yeah it's personal, in a way that texting is not.
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Yeah.
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okay.
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sidebar over.
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So anyways, this, this idea came from, my, my grandpa just recently passed, And at the eulogy, my uncle went up to the podium, and he said something that really stuck with me, and it was that my grandpa was a I forgot the words he, he used, but like a sentinel, right?
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He was-- he brought people together.
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when no one el- no one else brought the family together, my grandpa brought the family together, right?
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He was the one that always came up with the plans.
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He created a whole campground that we can go hang out at.
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Our whole family goes and hangs out at this campground now because of him he was a person he was the reason our family was so close together, right?
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But it made me realize that, that is how things are, right?
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We-- There are people in your life, both friends and family, and if you think about the roles that people play, some of those roles people play as planners and bringing people together, then the other people are the people that just go with the plans.
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And if no one makes plans, then they don't try to make plans.
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No matter how much they want to hang out with you, they probably don't initiate, right?
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They always wait for the other person to initiate.
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Yeah
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my uncle, he called it, I think he called it sentinel, right?
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And I don't know if that's the right word to use, but it's like there's certain types of people who those types of people who are constantly trying to make plans and constantly bringing people together.
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It's something I recognize that it's true in everyday life too, what do you think about that?
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Yeah.
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When I think about my, my high school friend group, for instance, right?
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Shout out to anybody who's listening.
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But my high school friend group has stayed together pretty good in all the time since high school, right?
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Yeah
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which you can do the math, but it's like half of my life ago, right?
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Is basically when we stopped formally seeing each other day to day, right?
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Yeah
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And I think some of that is that there is like at least one person that I can think of who's very keen on"Hey, we're gonna make sure we organize events.
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We're gonna go and do stuff." And I, would we all still get together, still talk if this one person wasn't part of the group?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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As much as we all like each other's presence
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wanna hang out with
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we wanna hang out.
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hang...
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but it's
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one person that's like the glue, right?
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And I think that is true, right?
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Now sometimes people step up to that plate, like when that person isn't there, right?
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For instance you might have that at work too, right?
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Where you say,"Hey, this person is actually the reason this team works." And when they're not there, sometimes
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ja.
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people feel like they need to fill in that gap.
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But they can't...
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A lot of people can't do that sustained, right?
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They can't do that all the time, right?
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They can hold the...
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I think of this is such a silly example, but I think of like Spider-Man, like holding the halves of the train together.
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yeah, that's it, right?
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Yeah.
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Like that's not a long-term solution to to the
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It is a long-term solution i- if that's how relationships work.
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But it's interesting'cause it, to your point, like every-- There's a lot of people I talk to who there are a lot of times where I hear a story where"Oh yeah, we used to hang out all the time, but then like this one person moved and now we-- none of us hang out." it's like,"Oh, do you hate each other?" They're like no, they were just, they were the ones that made the plan, once they were gone, we just all stopped hanging out." know?
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Yeah.
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Yeah it's hard because like life is busy, right?
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And it's very easy to fill life with things.
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Yeah
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and so I have, personally, like I'm...
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if you had to put me on the side of like planner or somebody who just like attends events, right?
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if these are the extremes, right?
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I'm closer to the
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planner.
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Pl- are you a planner or an attender?
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That's, I like
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Yeah, it's handy
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the, that, those are good labels.
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Yeah.
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I am probably closer to the attendee, right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah
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do initiate from time to time, right?
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Yeah
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and often it's in that kind of like gap void feeling of"Hey,
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yeah
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haven't done something recently.
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Let's go do something." But I'm much more likely to be the person who's I would consider it like an accelerant.
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Like
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Yeah,
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somebody plans something I'm the one that's like,"Okay, let's do it.
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Let's, let's make sure this thing,"
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yeah
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the fire doesn't go out.
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Ja.
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but I'm much less likely to li- light the flame.
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No, I do, right?
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Like I-- We have a fire pit in our backyard, and there's a lot of times where I'll invite people out to I'm like,"Hey, I just wanna have a fire, and I want people to come together."
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Yeah.
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it's not really for the sake of people coming together.
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It's for the sake of me not doing this thing that I wanna do by myself.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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but that's all it takes sometimes.
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Yeah.
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And it, it's hard playing that role as or planner, Because are pains in butts, and you-- like you said the attenders, those tend to be people who won't move thing the in their life out of the way to attend,
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Угу
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and of course, it's not black and white, it's always a sliding scale.
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But the planner has to work through all of these pains-in-the-butt people from people who are just easy to plan with, like you, who are-- they just have to light some sort of spark, but, and then it goes.
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But then there's the other side of the scale, which it's like,"Oh I only can hang out on Wednesday from 5 to 6 PM." So
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Right
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it works, like that, it's like, okay, I gotta map a, a...
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I have to come up with a Venn diagram of how we can hang out,
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yeah, I think of
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when it's a big group of people, you have to almost bend over backwards.
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Yeah.
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The competing interests.
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I, and it's become harder obviously, like I have kids now, right?
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Yeah
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okay, this is like a lot more of a conversation,
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Yeah
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than it was before, right?
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Say seven years ago, somebody could go and say to me,"Hey you wanna come out and do this?" Y- let's say a trivia night, right?
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Yeah.
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And I was like, I'd go 90% of the time.
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If they said it started at 11:00 PM I might be...
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I like to be in bed by 11:00."
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Yeah
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I, definitely on the earlier side.
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But like largely I was willing to go.
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Now I'm just way more in the camp of"Oh, I, I have to make sure that this makes a lot of sense,"
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Oh, so you're no longer an accelerator.
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You're
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no, no
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people.
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I have to jump through hoops to to make sure it aligns properly.
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Yeah, it's like I really want to say yes.
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It's just that I have so many competing things.
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Like I, I'm not somebody who will wait until there's five people going before I say yes, right?
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I will say yes like immediately if I can.
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Yeah.
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But
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said something interesting a few minutes, moments ago about how this applies to work too.
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To that point, you're correct.
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I never even thought about it as I thought this was like 100% personal, but like this definitely applies.
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And almost that point, I find leaders, like leadership roles, people who are more planners, teams are way more cohesive, right?
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Because that, that, that leader who's thinking about,"Hey, how do we hang out and do things?" And,"Let's play a board game," or,"Let's do this," or,"Let's do that," like team and team outings, those teams are way more cohesive because of that, right?
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That's a it's, that's actually a really cool, interesting idea.
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I never even thought about it like that,
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yeah.
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I, let's go to the other extreme end, I think, which is I also have some friends who I don't think they plan anything.
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The...
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No, no offense to them.
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This is not like a judgment call, right?
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To be very clear, right?
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zone.
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This was Planet Fitness.
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Yeah.
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But people who basically very rarely attend anything never plan things.
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Yeah
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And they're like fine being to themselves, right?
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Yeah
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Th- these are the people I wish I saw more, I think, honestly in life.
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But a selfish wish, right?
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My, my general wish is that oh, like I see the people I wanna see on a regular basis.
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And some people have different like levels where they want that, right?
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Bien
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I think that can be...
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imagine, I don't not to attack the planners here, right?
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But
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yeah
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there are some times where it's like, they're...
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Somebody wants to get everybody together so bad that they step on people's toes.
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They're like,"Come on, get out over here." And they're like,"Nah, it's not...
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I have my kids.
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It's not a good time." you can definitely go too far in the trying to get everybody together
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Yeah.
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side of things.
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Yeah
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but that's all I can say negative.
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I really think that the planners are the people I have the most respect for and
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f-
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wish were-
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feel- I'm feeling attacked by you now, Josh.
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I wish more people would
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Yeah, no.
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No, it's
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Devil's advocate, I can also go on the extreme side and say that there's some issue here but I wish more people
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is definitely times where it's like people can be pushy they're just like,"Oh, come on.
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Don't be a stick in the mud,
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Yeah
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Come on." I get that too.
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No, it's, a- and obvious- and honestly, this is not like a, a self-revelation that only I've had and that we've talked about because I don't-- Have you ever watched that movie?
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I think it's"Without a Paddle." I it was called"Without a Paddle."
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I don't know.
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No, I don't think so
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that movie?
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It was like a comedy movie from I think like the'90s or early 2000s the premise behind it was that one of a bunch of friend like four friends get together w- their fifth friend died, and A planner.
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He was the planner of the friend group, and he was-- And he ended up dying, and he was trying so hard to get them together to go on one last like treasure hunt/camping trip, everybody else like was too busy and couldn't do it, so then when he died, it was like his final get-together, and they went on one final trip.
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was the best, it was the best movie, man.
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You should watch it.
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Yeah.
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It, so it is Without a Paddle, 2004.
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It's a comedy
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Oh, 2004.
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Man, early 2000s, man.
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They had some slappers, but like that was, that, that was a, that was the whole movie was about a planner of a friend group that and everybody else kinda pushed off, right?
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I- it's it is a very common thing, and it's interesting how it always is.
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It work, seems like it works out that way.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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an interesting idea
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Yeah, I ultimately I, I-- You know that phrase be the change you wanna see in the world, right?
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I fully recognize that if I appreciate planners so much, I should try to be more of a planner, right?
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Yeah.
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I do want to get people together.
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I think that people getting together is, a lot of the joy of living, right?
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It's the connections you make with other people.
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And, it, it's hard because I'm also totally content in my daily life.
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One of the reasons I tend to be more of a, an attendee is I'm like: You know what?
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Life is already good.
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I don't need to improve.
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Yeah,
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so it is hard for me to get the motivation.
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But then when I do get together, I'm like: Oh, this is why I do it.
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This is so nice, right?
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Yeah
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life's 100, but it could be 110,
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yeah, yeah, yeah。Yeah。
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for an 80'cause it's good enough, but I really could be a 95, right?
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Yeah。Yeah。
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whatever kind of comparison you wanna make.
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But yeah, I think that it can be hard sometimes to bring people together'cause it is work, right?
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Yeah.
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And sometimes, we've been burned in the past when we go and try to get people together, and
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And then everybody has differing opinions, so then they fight with each other, and
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Yeah
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gets in the mix, and then it's even worse, and
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It's like, why did I put in all this effort and then nothing happened?
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Yeah.
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But then it's it's also like one of those things that you, know, on- once it doesn't happen for a few years, and when a few years, like 10, like tens of years, like Years, 20 years, you look back and you're like,"Man, I really miss that."
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Yeah.
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I
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And sometimes maybe I should be the person that reaches out, right?
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I haven't seen this person in 10 years.
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I actually just talked to a friend who said they used to have this friend before they moved to California.
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and they came back recently, and this person is never able to attend things, right?
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And they're just like,"Man, I wish I could have that moment back where we didn't break the chain of getting together," and figuring that out.
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So
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Yeah.
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This is this episode goes out to all you planners out there all you
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Thank you for what you do
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You know, all the hard work you have to deal with, all these pains in the butts to people together just to only get appreciated two years later
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And here's to all you attendees who could be planners, or even if you plan like once in a blue moon.
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I, not to go on a whole tangent here, right?
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But it's it's...
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This is gonna be a weird thing.
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It's like veganism, right?
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Or vegetarianism
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okay.
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You're losing me.
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Yeah, I'll g- I'll get you back, I swear.
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There, or going life without a car, for instance,
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Yeah,
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right?
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There are these things that feel really hard to do in the abstract, right?
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I could never become vegetarian because I like steak so much, right?
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I could never go without a car,'cause how would I visit my friends, right?
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And a lot of these things maybe you don't think that the- these are problems at all, right?
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I'm definitely the kind of I wish I would be a little bit...
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I think that there, it's environmentally more friendly to not drive a car, to be vegetarian, but I just can't do it, right?
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I love steak, right?
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I have to see my friends who live in the woods.
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And,
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You're losing me, Josh.
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Hold on.
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I'm gonna get you back, I swear.
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Sometimes you can be an attendee, right?
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Yeah
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You can be an attendee most of the time.
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All you have to do is just be a little bit more of a planner, Right?
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You don't have to use your car for every trip.
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You could walk sometimes.
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You don't have to be a vegetarian 100% of the time.
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You could have a little bit less meat with some of your dishes, right?
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I think some people are like all or nothing.
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"I have to be a planner.
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I have to be, 100% this thing." It's like no, just plan once a year, right?
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Yeah.
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a little bit more than you do.
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It's never too late
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n- it's nev- it's never too late.
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Just st- start planning.
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Make, this be the sign to you
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It might be too late when you die and then your friends decide to go on a treasure hunt on a river.
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That might be too
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Yeah.
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you know?
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At least something good came from your death.
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I don't
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Yeah.
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A good comedy movie.
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Maybe I have to go and watch this movie now.
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Where is it?
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Hulu?
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you should watch it.
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It's pretty good.
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All right
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yes.
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Okay
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you have a good night, Josh.
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You too, Jesse.
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Have a good one.
