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Hi, my name is Nicholas Holt. And I feel truly
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happy about being Conan O'Brien's friend.
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Hey there.
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Welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend, joined by Sona Movsesian. Hi, Sona.
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You done coughing? It was a lot of coughing.
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I always have to clear my throat.
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My grandfather used to say, it's not the cough that
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carries you off. It's the coffin they carry you off in.
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Fun guy. Anyway, then he'd say goodnight and shut the door.
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We have to go to sleep. Matt, how are you?
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Matt Gourley. I'm good.
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How are you?
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I'm good. I have a little pet peeve. Oh. My
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pet peeve. is that sometimes we gather around these mics,
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these microphones, these holy transmitters of our wise words, and
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we're supposed to do a podcast, and then you guys
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start yammering. Mostly, I think we know who the criminal
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is here at Sona. You'll start yammering about something, and
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we haven't begun, and you're like, yeah, before we get started,
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and you'll yammer sometimes for 20 minutes, and I'm thinking,
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why aren't we making this the podcast? Why can't you
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control yourself?
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This is part of my process.
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Oh, I'm sorry, Marlon Brando. I didn't realize.
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You have a process?
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I have a process. Can I say something, though? I
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think you always forget, out of the three of us,
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I'm the least... Professional.
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Never forget that. Oh, okay. Never for a second do
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I forget that you are an unprofessional person.
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Yes, okay.
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A total loose cannon.
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Sometimes you might forget that.
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You're cuckoo in the cabeza.
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So you might forget that sometimes.
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It's never left in my mind.
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So sometimes you might forget it.
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Never, ever.
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I never forget that. And so all I'm saying is
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there are times where I'm thinking, we're here. We're here
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to do our job, which we also love. It's fun.
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But you'll start gabbing and gabbing and gabbing. And I'll say, well,
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why don't we just say, hey, welcome to Conan O'Brien
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Needs a Friend. And we can, whatever this is, we
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can talk about what you're talking about. And you'll be like,
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hold on, I'm not done yet.
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What did he just say? What did he just say earlier?
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Shut the fuck up.
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Monetize it. Monetize it or shut the fuck up. Yes.
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I do think, you know.
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I know.
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Maybe that was, you know.
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Okay, sorry, go ahead. No, no, please continue.
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I think you know, okay, la, la, la, la, la,
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we have to like talk when the microphones are on.
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But sometimes I just want to catch up with you
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guys because I'm actually your friend.
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No, no, no, no.
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We're friends. And sometimes it's okay to just catch up.
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When we're in this room, everything must be monetized. Everything must... Adam,
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help me out here. When we're in this room, everything must,
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you know, is part of the product. The team cocoa product.
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Can I offer a suggestion?
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Especially if it's coming from Sona, that she should be
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paid more because the product is being monetized is primarily hers.
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Well, I didn't say that.
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I did not say that.
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Do you want to weigh in? That does not represent me.
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I agree with you that it's a waste.
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It's inefficient for there to be conversation happening off mic,
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but in Sona's defense, I think you're often guilty of
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the same thing, which is telling stories, chatting when we're
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not actually recording. So I agree with you in theory,
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but I have to say, I think that it's not
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just Sona.
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I love you, Adam.
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And can I say something to bounce off of what
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Adam just said?
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Can we just let this moment sit?
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No, because I have something to add to it.
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I invited Adam. He sits way in the corner. He's
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over there calculating, scheming. Calculating and scheming. Yeah, and I
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bring him over into this holy, holy area of the
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table with the mics, and then you stab me? He
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crucified me. Through my toga?
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I crucified you.
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He crucified me.
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I just have to be my honest self. I have
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to be true to myself, and that's the truth.
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So you think sometimes I spin a yarn after we're done?
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Well, now, I hate to do this, but most of
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the time when you do that, it is unmonetizable.
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Because it cannot go public.
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That's true.
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I tell some real corkers.
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Um, did you just get on me last episode about
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using the phrase cock of the walk and you just
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use corkers?
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I tell, uh, you know, sometimes I, a real Lulu.
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Sometimes I lay out a real Lulu of a story. No, I,
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I do tell some stories that are not for public
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consumption because maybe they include a name and I, I
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don't like to sell people, you know, uh, sell people out. Uh,
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And so we have some delicious conversations in here. But, yeah,
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I guess I'm guilty of the same thing.
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But I do think Matt's right, though.
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I think you are usually thoughtful about if you're going
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to tell a story that is appropriate for the podcast,
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you will save it for the podcast.
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Okay. What I'm saying, Sona, is that I want– don't–
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how dare you harumph.
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I was just– I was breathing.
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That was not breathing. That was a harumph. If that's
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your breathing, I'm worried about you. I'm breathing. I'm breathing.
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I think all those years in the coal mine have
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hurt you. I believe, Sona, that you should be a
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little more disciplined here about your work, and you should
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tell your tales into the microphone.
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Off of what Adam just said, how often during when
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we were taping the show did you hold up rehearsal
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because you were noodling on your guitar so much? And
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isn't that kind of the same thing? We both have
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a process.
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We do.
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You know what? That's a fair point. There are.
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I want to say over there are 28 years of
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of there's 28 years where I'm making late night television.
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And I think there may be easily 2000 hours of
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me playing whatever guitar song I want to play that
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day while people in headsets desperately try to get me
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to rehearse a sketch.
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What was even the conversation that you were supposed to
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save for the mic? We don't even know it.
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We don't even know anymore. I don't remember.
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Look, it's just because I like you. You don't like
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it when I have a good time sometimes.
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It is true. When Sona's having joy, I feel like
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I'm having a heart attack. When Sona's experiencing true joy,
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I have all the symptoms of a major aortic aneurysm.
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It does feel like before you enter the room, we
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have to hurry up and get our catch up. sessions
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that's right we do yeah just otherwise you're gonna yell
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at us.
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We talked about a lot in about seven minutes before
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you walk in today what did.
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You see so you guys are afraid before i come
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in the room that once i show up i'm gonna
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shut everything down you're gonna.
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Monetize our little anecdotes about how we've been and what
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we've been doing over.
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That's exactly what i would do a bigger conversation about
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how you the work environment you've created yeah and how
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we can't comfortably speak.
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So I'm glad you brought this up.
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Can I just say that if someone is struggling in
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a situation like this, BetterHelp is probably... Oh my God.
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With BetterHelp, you can get online counseling. Fucking thumbs up.
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Come on, Adam.
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It's not wrong.
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It's not wrong. I'm just saying.
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But just use offer code, Conan.
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Yeah.
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Oh my God.
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Yeah, exactly. And you know what? Rap. Rap. You can,
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if a therapist isn't a good fit, you can cut
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off that session right away and it's no hassle to
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start another one.
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This is kind of like us having Miller time.
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It is like Miller time. You know how it's like
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Miller time? When you're a bunch of buddies standing around
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and you know what you want when you're with buddies?
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You want beer that tastes like beer. Do you know
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what I mean? Oh, my God.
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You know what you've done to our friendship?
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You've fractured it.
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Yes!
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There's a blast. Jesus, there's a blast from the past.
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If you are unhappy, you should check out LinkedIn Jobs.
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I hear they have a good B2B model.
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Yes. Okay, we just made, yep, $ 88. Worth it.
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Oh, my God.
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All right, you guys. My guest today starred in the
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Hulu series, The Great. Now you can see him in
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the new movie, Nosferatu. I'm very excited he's here. He's
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incredibly talented.
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Yes.
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Nicholas Holt. Welcome.
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Have we started?
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Is this it?
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Yes, this is it, yeah.
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I was thinking about friendship on the drive here.
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Were you really?
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Yeah.
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Well, I was thinking about how LA is quite a
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lonely town in many ways. Anyway, we don't have to
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get into it too far.
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Well, no, we should, because you live in LA now.
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Yeah, well, technically down in Long Beach, yeah.
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So, LBC.
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I've lived in Long Beach for 20 years.
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Oh, whereabouts?
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Belmont Shore. You live so close to me. Really? I'm
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on Naples.
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Oh my God.
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I lived in Naples for a little bit too.
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Oh my gosh. Do you want to be friends?
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Yes.
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Wait a minute. I was going to ask you that. Hello.
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You're relieved. You're dismissed. I'm going to go have a coffee.
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You still live in Belmont. What are your spots?
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No, I live in Pasadena now.
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But I missed it. Oh, you went the wrong way.
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Friendship canceled.
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He wanted to get farther away from the water and
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closer to the sun and just be miserable.
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I do like Pasadena. Well, there's a Huntington Library and Gardens.
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Yeah, you want to be friends?
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Well, we don't go there anymore because it's too far now.
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I understand.
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I understand.
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I think I've lost control of this interview completely. Basically,
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I'm here looking for friends.
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You'd be an amazingly cool friend to have. I have
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to say, I am a massive fan of yours. Thanks.
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And you seem like a very normal, healthy person. And
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I'm sure you don't love... compliments ladled on you.
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No, I do.
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I always liked your work. Oh, you do? Okay. Well,
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first time I saw you was in About a Boy,
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which is such a great film. And you were so
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good in that movie with Hugh Grant. And it holds up.
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I think I've watched it many times since then. It's
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one of those movies, whenever it's on, I love you
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in it. I love the story. I love Hugh Grant.
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It's just so well done. I love the soundtrack, blah, blah, blah.
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And then I saw you kill it in many roles
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in And then you started doing The Great with Elle Fanning.
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And my eyeballs fell out of my head because I thought,
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Nicholas Hoult is one of the funniest actors alive. You
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are so good in that role. And here's the thing,
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you're walking this insane line of... a terrible murderer who,
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you know, who is constantly on the verge of killing
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his wife and by today's standards, just an inhuman barbarian
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and incredibly likable. And I thought, what kind of judo
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move is that? But I loved your character in that.
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I thought you were absolutely hilarious.
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In that role. It was a dream of a role.
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because Tony McNamara's writing is so smart. And that was
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the thing. I kind of discovered that character along the
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way as everyone else did, because he, he wrote the
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favorite as well that I was in. And then after that,
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he said, Oh, I've got this other script. And it was,
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it was at that point, a feature script for, for
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the great. And I'd worked with L before he said
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he was going to ask L to play Catherine and
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she's wonderful as you know. And, um, and I knew
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I had a fantastic time working with her previously. So
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I was excited about all the components and then he
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turned it into a show. But when we started shooting,
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we only had like, um, couple of episodes, two or
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three episodes. So then it was kind of, as we went,
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we would get more of the episodes as we shot.
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So it was kind of like, I'd read it and
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I'd be like, oh, this is terrible. Very funny, but terrible,
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horrible character who's just punched his wife and all these things.
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But then, but then you'd start to eke out all
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the things that made him human and tick and the way,
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the way, the way he is and, and how ridiculous
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he is in very humorous ways. So it was kind of,
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it was definitely all down to him, his writing.
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Okay. Yes. Great writing. But I thought you and Elle together.
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One of my favorite couples I've seen on TV in memory.
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And also... We had the best time. Well, you could tell.
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You guys have such a great chemistry. But also, Huzzah became...
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I think you put Huzzah on the map. It's back.
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Huzzah is back. Huzzah. And also, just that... Self-assurance, constantly
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obsessed with your cock and sex. And I just, I'm
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just watching this and thinking. Is this the segue? I know.
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Is this in your journal again?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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No, but just like.
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Cock was so aggressive.
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Yes.
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It's a very aggressive word.
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It's a very aggressive word.
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Strong sounds.
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Yeah.
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It is.
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But also just this kind of musing about sex and
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what he's going to do next. It was just hilarious.
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It's hilarious.
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A real foodie.
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Yeah, a real foodie.
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One of the redeeming things about him is his foodie nature,
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but also... he's very, he's very open. It's exactly what
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you see is what you get.
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Yes.
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And I think that's one of the things that people
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can appreciate about him. It's like not very common that
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you see someone who tells you exactly what they're thinking
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when they're thinking it.
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And he's the kind of person who might say, Hmm,
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I may have to murder you now, but would say
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it out loud and then go, well, probably shouldn't have
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said that out loud. That's the kind of, I think that, uh, show,
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I mean, first of all, the acting across the board, uh,
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who plays the, Uh, I mean, such terrific acting, but the, the,
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the minister of war, the general.
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Oh, Douglas Hodge.
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Oh my God.
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Yeah.
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And that is truly incredible. His performance, because, you know,
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the characters aren't described. There's not like any of the,
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the bellowing and breathing and all those things that, that
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Douglas added. And I remember being in scenes with him
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when we first started shooting. You'd hear him constantly like,
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swallowing his own birch and stuff. And none of that
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was in the script. It was just something that he
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brought to the character. And it was so hilarious that
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there were times that we had to cut and stop
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scenes because the rest of us would be giggling so
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much at just how he breathed.
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But again, he was a great character because he's this
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Russian general who's drunk all the time. But very hot.
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But also has common sense. I mean, he is the
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voice of reason often in a scene, but also not.
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Yeah.
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I don't know. That series was so delightfully surprising. And
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I watched that. And then I knew that I had
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a Nicholas Holt obsession when, I don't know if you
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guys remember, but Elle Fanning came on the podcast and
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we were talking about the show. And I kept saying,
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tell me more about Nicholas. And she would indulge me.
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And she was like, well, you should talk to Nicholas.
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And I'm like, yes, I should.
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You tried to get his number from her.
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I did.
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I did.
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And she gave it to me. And then it was
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like a suspiciously wrong. It was a 555.
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That's who's been calling and breathing down the line.
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Now I recognize the breath. You thought it was Douglas Hodge.
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So I just want to go through. I just want
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to walk you through your story. your career, which at
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such a young age, you've had such a range of
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experiences and so much success. But, you know, I know
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that you had worked as a child, but then about
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a boy is when it's like 2002, I want to say.
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Yeah, about that. Yeah.
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And you're working with Hugh Grant, who, by the way,
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has had this. I mean, he started out as one
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type of performer in romantic comedies, and now he's become
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He's found this whole other sweet spot that I find
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extremely Emeril. He is so good.
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His recent one's coming out soon, right?
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Heretic?
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Heretic, yeah. I saw the trailer.
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It looks great.
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It looks amazing.
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I maintain, and I have many people, I think many
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people will agree with me, Paddington 2, and it sounds
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like I'm making a joke.
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He's so good in Paddington 2.
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Paddington 2 might be a perfect movie. And I think
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it has a score on Rotten Tomatoes of just absolute perfection.
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I've watched Paddington 2 several times. Looking... For a flaw,
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there isn't one. But Hugh Grant is so delightfully, insanely
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over the, he's having such a good time.
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It's brilliant. He is, he is truly brilliant.
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But he, you worked with him, you were young, 10, 11, 12,
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something like that. You're working with, uh, Hugh Grant and
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he taught you by observing him. He, you learned from him.
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I still think the other day I was thinking about,
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and I think a lot of my sense of humor
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probably stems down a little bit from him.
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Mm-hmm.
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And also just, you know, how he was on set.
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He was so dedicated to the work and professional and
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kind and good with everyone and just really, really deeply
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cared about doing a good job himself and making the
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film good. And I think I couldn't have had a
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better experience at that sort of age in terms of
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just learning and watching people and being like, okay, this
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is how it's supposed to be and how it's supposed
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to be done.
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That you'd have to put in the work. Yeah. To
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get to the fun part, you need to prepare, you
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need to be on it.
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Yeah, and also it's that thing of like, you know,
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you end up on set sometimes where people won't come
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out of trailers and this and that, and there's just
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extra kind of ego business going on, and there wasn't
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any of that, so... I think good to have, you know,
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good behavior around it.
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That sort of, you know, you lost me with this
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whole line of reasoning. I had a trailer put upstairs
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in this office just so I could not come out
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of it. Half the time, no one wants me to
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come out of it. It's a win-win. Yeah. I wasn't
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familiar with, you know, this, this show you did when
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you were an adolescent skins. I don't really know that
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that show, but it, it became huge in the UK.
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Yeah.
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And that was a little difficult for you to handle
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because you're an adolescent and suddenly it's this. Yeah.
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I don't think any of us were prepared for how
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well that show would do. And I, and I stand
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by this, somebody was asking me about that show the
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other day. And I was saying, I think the reason
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that it did kind of capture the moment so well
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is because it wasn't expected to be what it was.
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You know, I feel like more commonly now when shows
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kind of showing the teen way of life and whatever.
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And they're going to show everything and it's going to
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be hardcore and all this sort of stuff. There's kind
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of this idea of what it's going to be and
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how it's going to fit into the zeitgeist early. Whereas
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that was kind of like, we're just going to make
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this show. We'll kind of mess it around.
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Yeah.
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It's a good bunch of people. Um, very talented bunch
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and great writing, but it's kind of like not nothing's
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expected of it.
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Yes.
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Um, and then it did kind of blow up into,
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in a way that, um, I feel like it still
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kind of gets watched some by some people. Now I've never,
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I've never actually seen it.
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You were.
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Young to be experiencing that kind of attention.
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I was 16 or 17. And it was, I guess
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it was around then that maybe camera phones and stuff
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were starting to kind of come out as well. And
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it was just, it was, it was a weird transition
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because up until then I'd basically most of the time
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just been able to live my life very normally. And, and,
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and I still can mostly day to day. It's, um,
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being recognized as kind of a weird, it goes in
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weird waves. I don't know if you find this, but
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it's like, If you've had something out recently or you've
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been on people's screens, then maybe they recognize you. Otherwise,
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people just look at me like maybe we went to
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school together. But that period because that show was very
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popular like with my age group and everything as well
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it was kind of it felt like i was under
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scrutiny a lot.
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Yeah so if you're going out you just want to
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have a drink hang out with friends yeah you have
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to accept that someone might be recording you.
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Yeah it was a weird transition i didn't particularly enjoy that.
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Um at all i think it's healthy not to enjoy
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that yeah I think there are a lot of people
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who would be 15, 16, 17 and think, boy, if
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I could be famous right now and get that kind
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of attention at an age when you want attention, wouldn't
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that be amazing? And so often, it's not.
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Yeah.
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I don't know. What kind of attention do people want?
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Well, let me explain my problem.
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Come to the master. Here we go.
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You're talking about getting recognized. I wear a hat that
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says I am Conan O'Brien wherever I go. Stop me
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and ask for a selfie.
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You've had this interesting education where you were... getting probably
509
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attention and working as a child, then you're a teenager,
510
00:22:26.980 --> 00:22:30.119
but then you've, I mean, you've handled it all really well.
511
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You've done, I was thinking of your performance in Mad
512
00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:37.049
Max as, first of all, when I first saw that,
513
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I didn't even realize it was you.
514
00:22:38.710 --> 00:22:40.789
Yeah. See, no one will recognize me from that.
515
00:22:40.809 --> 00:22:43.490
Yeah, because you play Nux.
516
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Yeah.
517
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And Nux is this terrific character. You lost so much
518
00:22:48.630 --> 00:22:51.200
weight for that. And the backstory, first of all, I
519
00:22:51.309 --> 00:22:53.309
love that movie. Yeah, it's a great film.
520
00:22:53.349 --> 00:22:53.839
I'm proud of that one.
521
00:22:53.849 --> 00:22:54.970
And we did a parody of it when we were
522
00:22:55.009 --> 00:22:58.349
at Comic-Con once where I play the Doof Warrior, who's
523
00:22:58.369 --> 00:23:02.670
the guy that we actually recreated. We shot it film style.
524
00:23:02.710 --> 00:23:04.809
We recreated that whole giant truck.
525
00:23:04.910 --> 00:23:05.089
Yeah.
526
00:23:05.210 --> 00:23:07.670
Do you remember this, Sona? Yeah, I do. I'm hanging
527
00:23:07.750 --> 00:23:10.029
off the front with an electric guitar and the white
528
00:23:10.089 --> 00:23:13.470
face and wearing the red onesie and shooting fire.
529
00:23:13.490 --> 00:23:15.059
Do you still have the red onesie?
530
00:23:15.140 --> 00:23:18.460
I'm wearing it now. But I'm wearing it for- The
531
00:23:18.500 --> 00:23:22.059
red onesie's his new nickname. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm
532
00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:26.039
wearing it for medical reasons. But I'm shooting fire. They
533
00:23:26.059 --> 00:23:27.460
gave me a guitar that shoots fire.
534
00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:27.980
The real fire?
535
00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:30.019
Yeah, and then we were shooting it out in the desert,
536
00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:33.470
but they said, I remember just before we started to shoot, they, no,
537
00:23:33.549 --> 00:23:36.289
after the first take, they said, uh, when you get
538
00:23:36.349 --> 00:23:39.529
near a telephone pole, turn off the fire.
539
00:23:39.569 --> 00:23:40.549
And I was.
540
00:23:40.509 --> 00:23:43.730
Like, what? And they were like, because otherwise you'll set
541
00:23:43.769 --> 00:23:46.809
the telephone poles off here in the desert outside Los
542
00:23:46.890 --> 00:23:49.250
Angeles on fire. And I went, no one thought like,
543
00:23:49.289 --> 00:23:51.990
this is up to me. If I want to, I
544
00:23:52.029 --> 00:23:54.819
can take out the power grid with my electric guitar.
545
00:23:55.859 --> 00:23:58.799
But anyway, uh, we did a whole parody of that,
546
00:23:58.839 --> 00:24:01.420
which was really fun to do, but I, I absolutely
547
00:24:01.460 --> 00:24:04.990
adore that film. And Your character, I mean, talk about
548
00:24:05.009 --> 00:24:06.910
being able to lose yourself in a character. You lost
549
00:24:06.950 --> 00:24:10.220
a ton of weight to play Nux because you're in this,
550
00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:13.660
everyone who survived that apocalypse is sickly.
551
00:24:14.980 --> 00:24:16.839
Yeah, Nux is meant to be kind of essentially on
552
00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:19.660
his deathbed the day that you meet him at the
553
00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:21.960
start of the film. So that was something George asked
554
00:24:21.980 --> 00:24:23.490
me to do was to lose some weight. And I
555
00:24:23.509 --> 00:24:25.450
did get a strange body dysmorphia through that where I
556
00:24:25.470 --> 00:24:27.710
didn't feel I was that skinny and then looked back
557
00:24:27.750 --> 00:24:29.930
at photos and I was like, oh, you were very skinny.
558
00:24:30.250 --> 00:24:31.890
I didn't realize quite how far I'd gone with it.
559
00:24:32.109 --> 00:24:34.230
And what was the, I mean, everyone has their own technique,
560
00:24:34.390 --> 00:24:36.349
but is that a kind of thing where literally you're
561
00:24:36.369 --> 00:24:38.150
working with a doctor and they're saying, okay, you can
562
00:24:38.190 --> 00:24:41.980
have a tic-tac today? And then a little soup before bed?
563
00:24:42.059 --> 00:24:42.460
It wasn't that.
564
00:24:42.619 --> 00:24:44.500
It was just not eating as much and just running
565
00:24:44.579 --> 00:24:47.740
tons and jumping rope and just not eating that much.
566
00:24:48.369 --> 00:24:52.029
I wish there was a secret. Oh, I didn't eat
567
00:24:52.089 --> 00:24:53.910
as much. Fuck.
568
00:24:54.230 --> 00:24:57.359
I think there is now, right? Yeah, that's true.
569
00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:03.339
Yeah, I'm going to get an Ozempic colonic. Oh, jeez.
570
00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:05.700
I don't know, maybe it'll go even faster if I
571
00:25:05.700 --> 00:25:07.470
go the other way.
572
00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:10.569
Not a suppository, but a colonic.
573
00:25:10.660 --> 00:25:13.329
A colonic. I want that for other reasons.
574
00:25:13.809 --> 00:25:17.710
They don't go together. The red onesie is going to
575
00:25:17.730 --> 00:25:19.089
be helpful throughout this.
576
00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:24.660
Thank God I have that onesie on. When did you
577
00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:25.180
become- One of.
578
00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:28.480
My mates had to give himself like a colonic, like
579
00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:31.269
that's when you shoot the stuff up to loosen everything.
580
00:25:31.509 --> 00:25:31.740
Yes.
581
00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:34.269
He had to do that in a hospital and then
582
00:25:34.309 --> 00:25:36.730
like lost control. They said you could do it himself
583
00:25:36.769 --> 00:25:37.750
and he was like, okay, I'll do it. But then
584
00:25:37.769 --> 00:25:39.289
it was like on the floor of the bathroom in
585
00:25:39.329 --> 00:25:42.690
the hospital, like cramping with- Oh my God.
586
00:25:43.069 --> 00:25:45.299
Why did they say do it yourself? Oh my God.
587
00:25:47.029 --> 00:25:49.319
First of all, this story is much better if you
588
00:25:49.339 --> 00:25:50.720
identify your friend. I can't.
589
00:25:50.759 --> 00:25:51.619
They're very famous.
590
00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:55.849
It's got to be Hugh Grant. It's Hugh Grant. Hugh
591
00:25:55.890 --> 00:25:59.450
Grant cramping, shitting all over the floor. You heard it here, folks.
592
00:26:01.690 --> 00:26:02.750
Let's get that out there.
593
00:26:04.099 --> 00:26:04.920
It's not, it's not.
594
00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:08.519
Too late. I'm editing your, it's not out. And we're
595
00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:11.079
replacing it with an AI. Yes, it is.
596
00:26:11.539 --> 00:26:12.220
Definitely him.
597
00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:15.430
Oh, we got the sound bite. Thank you. We're good.
598
00:26:17.289 --> 00:26:20.910
You got very seriously into motorcycles at some point.
599
00:26:20.990 --> 00:26:21.190
Yeah.
600
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That was for a role.
601
00:26:22.309 --> 00:26:25.579
I learned to ride bikes for a role. The first
602
00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:27.299
thing I did with Elle called Young Ones that Jake
603
00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:30.119
Paltrow directed with me and Elle and Cody Smith-McPhee and
604
00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:32.359
Michael Shannon. A great group. But yeah, my character rode
605
00:26:32.380 --> 00:26:34.880
motorcycles in that. So I learned to ride for that
606
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and then got into it for a little while and
607
00:26:36.299 --> 00:26:38.759
was riding a lot and getting on track and all
608
00:26:38.779 --> 00:26:40.980
that sort of stuff. But I've kind of stopped. It
609
00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:43.039
started to feel a little bit, well, I fell off
610
00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:45.269
a few times. So that started to feel a little
611
00:26:45.289 --> 00:26:47.710
bit dangerous. And then I got more into car racing.
612
00:26:47.730 --> 00:26:49.569
So I've been doing more of that because it feels
613
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a little bit safer.
614
00:26:50.470 --> 00:26:50.710
Yes.
615
00:26:50.950 --> 00:26:53.119
You've got just some, you're in a cage.
616
00:26:53.170 --> 00:26:55.579
Yeah. You've got a whole roll cage helmet. I mean,
617
00:26:55.619 --> 00:26:56.920
you wear a helmet obviously on the bikes, but you've
618
00:26:56.940 --> 00:26:59.079
also got this, this hands device. Have you heard of this?
619
00:26:59.099 --> 00:27:01.799
The hand, I think it stands for hands, head and
620
00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:04.509
neck saver. So it's like underneath your harness is this
621
00:27:04.529 --> 00:27:06.890
thing that then connects to your helmet to stop your
622
00:27:06.910 --> 00:27:09.529
head if you do crash from moving too far. So
623
00:27:09.589 --> 00:27:10.529
it's saved loads of lives.
624
00:27:10.930 --> 00:27:13.710
So you have, and you have seriously, first of all,
625
00:27:13.849 --> 00:27:15.789
as a kid, you were interested in cars.
626
00:27:16.049 --> 00:27:16.150
Yeah.
627
00:27:16.170 --> 00:27:18.049
I grew up watching it with my dad and racing
628
00:27:18.069 --> 00:27:19.710
him with my dad and stuff. And he, he would
629
00:27:19.730 --> 00:27:22.779
like build cars as one of his hobbies. Um, so
630
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:25.220
I was always kind of interested and excited by them.
631
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:27.339
So now I'm lucky where I got the opportunity to
632
00:27:27.380 --> 00:27:28.920
kind of go and race around a track.
633
00:27:28.940 --> 00:27:32.539
You just took, I mean, a serious course. What's the
634
00:27:32.579 --> 00:27:33.500
course that you just took?
635
00:27:33.619 --> 00:27:35.079
Oh, the course of Bellotta, the Ferrari.
636
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:35.359
Yeah.
637
00:27:35.380 --> 00:27:38.339
So now I'm kind of waiting. Hopefully I've, I've done
638
00:27:38.380 --> 00:27:41.269
some of that track attacks at the Ferrari challenge. and
639
00:27:41.289 --> 00:27:43.170
those have gone well. And then next will be the
640
00:27:43.230 --> 00:27:45.650
actual race, but the track attacks, like when everyone's out
641
00:27:45.670 --> 00:27:47.670
there trying to set the fastest lap sort of thing, time.
642
00:27:48.269 --> 00:27:51.630
Now explain to me the appeal. Cause I've never, I'm
643
00:27:52.430 --> 00:27:56.410
not a gear head. I, I enjoy a nice car, but, um,
644
00:27:57.589 --> 00:27:59.859
when I first made money and could buy any car
645
00:27:59.890 --> 00:28:04.640
I wanted, just so you know who you're talking to. And, uh, uh,
646
00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:07.240
and I'm a writer on the Simpsons and I, I
647
00:28:07.299 --> 00:28:10.859
go out and I buy a a Ford Taurus SHO.
648
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:13.299
That's the Ford Taurus that has the stick shift.
649
00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:14.240
Yeah, stick shift's great.
650
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:17.400
Yeah, but it looks exactly like a Ford.
651
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:19.829
You missed the Ford Taurus part of it.
652
00:28:19.890 --> 00:28:21.910
Well, I had a stick shift and I was like, okay.
653
00:28:22.710 --> 00:28:23.190
Having fun.
654
00:28:23.269 --> 00:28:30.750
It's got a sweet Yamaha 6 in there. But yeah,
655
00:28:30.829 --> 00:28:33.640
I remember thinking, this is so cool. And people would say,
656
00:28:33.700 --> 00:28:35.700
you're driving around in a Ford Taurus and you're 28
657
00:28:35.700 --> 00:28:39.849
years old and you're you told us you were going
658
00:28:39.869 --> 00:28:41.589
to get this really cool car. And I went, yeah,
659
00:28:41.609 --> 00:28:44.049
but if you look inside, it's got a stick shift.
660
00:28:45.029 --> 00:28:50.490
And the common reaction was, uh, it's a four-door. You
661
00:28:50.529 --> 00:28:53.069
look like you're going to Whole Foods to buy some,
662
00:28:53.650 --> 00:28:54.089
some products.
663
00:28:54.109 --> 00:28:55.849
Not even Whole Foods, like Big Lots.
664
00:28:55.970 --> 00:29:01.390
Okay. Let's not get dicky about grocery stores. But anyway,
665
00:29:01.410 --> 00:29:05.279
that's the degree to which I'm probably not a gearhead, but, um,
666
00:29:05.809 --> 00:29:09.250
You participated in and won a race recently, didn't you?
667
00:29:09.329 --> 00:29:12.440
Yeah, I got the fastest time. So I don't know
668
00:29:12.460 --> 00:29:14.019
how to describe the fit. The feeling of it is
669
00:29:14.059 --> 00:29:15.680
something where it makes you very present.
670
00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:17.480
You have to be, you have to be right.
671
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:20.160
And it's a weird, it's a weird mix between having
672
00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:21.859
a lot of adrenaline, but then having to kind of
673
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:24.619
counteract that and calm yourself and be extremely focused for
674
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:27.460
periods of time where you're doing things that are against
675
00:29:27.500 --> 00:29:30.789
human instinct. Because like, for instance, at the track where
676
00:29:31.220 --> 00:29:33.190
you you're kind of coming up through turns two and
677
00:29:33.210 --> 00:29:35.700
three and it's blind. And so you can't see where
678
00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:38.430
you're going and you have to keep your foot pinned
679
00:29:38.450 --> 00:29:39.690
to the floor and you're going about 130. 40 accelerating
680
00:29:39.710 --> 00:29:43.190
into the into the yeah so you've got yes and
681
00:29:43.230 --> 00:29:44.890
you're going up you're turning left but you can't see
682
00:29:44.930 --> 00:29:46.250
exactly where you're aiming to come out and then there's
683
00:29:46.329 --> 00:29:48.190
walls on either side so you're going through there like
684
00:29:48.190 --> 00:29:51.019
140 and it all goes well luckily for me this
685
00:29:51.059 --> 00:29:53.099
time and everything was fine but it's a weird feeling
686
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:55.319
where you're you're like half of the muscles in your
687
00:29:55.339 --> 00:29:57.480
leg are trying to pull up and stop you from
688
00:29:57.519 --> 00:29:59.519
doing it and the other half are like overriding it
689
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:01.920
To be like, no, you have to do that to
690
00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:04.220
get quick. And then, and then it's, so there's, but
691
00:30:04.259 --> 00:30:05.599
then once you've done it once, you can do it again.
692
00:30:05.619 --> 00:30:07.099
And then you keep on building up and you start
693
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:10.329
to get muscle memory, muscle memory. And you start to just,
694
00:30:10.670 --> 00:30:12.589
you start to feel the car and it becomes, you
695
00:30:12.609 --> 00:30:14.609
don't become one with the car. That's such a stupid
696
00:30:14.630 --> 00:30:15.589
thing to say, but you start to.
697
00:30:15.730 --> 00:30:20.730
I did with the tourist. I had sex with my tourist.
698
00:30:20.779 --> 00:30:21.490
Was that not clear?
699
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:22.799
Wait a minute.
700
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:26.579
The car was not on when I became one. When
701
00:30:26.619 --> 00:30:28.720
my car was not even on and I was not
702
00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:30.579
in it when I became one with it. This is
703
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:31.519
why you got stick shift?
704
00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:32.940
I thought it was fairly clear by the way you
705
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:33.579
were talking about it.
706
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:36.119
I'm going to keep explaining what happened.
707
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:42.980
I was going to go so far with it. I'd
708
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:45.059
just like to take this time to apologize to you.
709
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:46.960
It's fine.
710
00:30:47.009 --> 00:30:49.569
Don't worry, Nicholas. This never has to air. It's interesting.
711
00:30:49.630 --> 00:30:52.509
It's going to sound like I'm making a joke, but
712
00:30:52.549 --> 00:30:55.640
I'm not. I kind of understand what you're saying because
713
00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:57.839
if I'm in front of a large group of people,
714
00:30:57.859 --> 00:31:02.740
I am, there is adrenaline rush and I am sometimes
715
00:31:02.859 --> 00:31:08.009
doing things that are against my better nature. But I
716
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:12.509
also think this is gonna be really funny if I
717
00:31:12.609 --> 00:31:16.309
do this thing that's potentially quite embarrassing or foolish. So
718
00:31:16.349 --> 00:31:19.430
there's this push me, pull you, but I also like
719
00:31:19.450 --> 00:31:22.210
to be in control, but I also like the potential chaotic,
720
00:31:22.609 --> 00:31:24.690
loss of control and it's all at the same time.
721
00:31:25.210 --> 00:31:26.769
That's the closest I've come to that.
722
00:31:26.789 --> 00:31:27.569
Yeah, no, it's exactly that.
723
00:31:27.589 --> 00:31:28.150
But it's not going 100.
724
00:31:28.130 --> 00:31:29.930
But then it's flow state and it's kind of very
725
00:31:29.990 --> 00:31:32.650
meditative and it becomes, but let me ask you something then.
726
00:31:32.670 --> 00:31:35.450
So when you're about to make a joke or take
727
00:31:35.490 --> 00:31:39.759
a risk, how often do you doubt it before you
728
00:31:39.779 --> 00:31:41.380
do it? And if you doubt it, do you just
729
00:31:41.660 --> 00:31:43.960
abort or do you override doubt?
730
00:31:43.980 --> 00:31:46.299
This is one thing I found is that if I'm
731
00:31:46.460 --> 00:31:49.059
thinking about it beforehand, it's not going to be as good.
732
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:52.150
And if you do it then- It's not as satisfying.
733
00:31:52.190 --> 00:31:54.109
It's not as good. And for some reason, the audience
734
00:31:54.170 --> 00:31:55.950
knows it too. I don't know what that's all about.
735
00:31:56.170 --> 00:32:00.049
No, no, no. I get what you're saying. Because when
736
00:32:00.069 --> 00:32:01.930
you were first talking about the Ford Taurus, I was
737
00:32:01.990 --> 00:32:04.309
in my head. I was reaching for some sort of
738
00:32:04.349 --> 00:32:08.750
joke about there being a condom on the gift. And
739
00:32:08.809 --> 00:32:11.049
it was there somewhere. And then I was like, oh.
740
00:32:11.150 --> 00:32:12.490
And then I thought about it too much. And I
741
00:32:12.490 --> 00:32:13.849
was like, this isn't the time or place. Let's just
742
00:32:13.869 --> 00:32:14.250
bury it.
743
00:32:15.250 --> 00:32:19.210
But then I went there. So you showed a lot
744
00:32:19.269 --> 00:32:24.940
of restraint. and caution, and you held your tongue, and
745
00:32:24.980 --> 00:32:27.480
then me, the older man who should know better.
746
00:32:27.819 --> 00:32:29.740
Well, just because I couldn't formulate what the idea was.
747
00:32:29.819 --> 00:32:31.960
No, I didn't formulate it well either. I have me
748
00:32:32.019 --> 00:32:35.549
fucking a Taurus. You just said I fucked my car.
749
00:32:35.890 --> 00:32:37.950
There's some sort of star sign joke.
750
00:32:37.809 --> 00:32:40.849
In here too. There was no, yeah. Well, I'm an Aries.
751
00:32:40.869 --> 00:32:44.349
Better than a Capricorn. I'm an Aries, yeah. My point is.
752
00:32:44.589 --> 00:32:47.049
What's that joke? What's the one where it's like, oh.
753
00:32:47.250 --> 00:32:47.670
I don't know.
754
00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:51.180
I broke up with my ex and someone says, why?
755
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:53.029
And they go, oh, because I'm a Sagittarius and they're
756
00:32:53.049 --> 00:32:53.289
a cunt.
757
00:32:54.009 --> 00:32:58.029
Sorry, I probably can't say that. Beep that one out.
758
00:32:59.049 --> 00:33:00.660
That used to be my favorite for a while.
759
00:33:00.700 --> 00:33:04.339
I think you're allowed to say it in the UK. Yeah,
760
00:33:04.420 --> 00:33:04.960
so I say.
761
00:33:05.099 --> 00:33:07.789
Apologies to anyone who's offended by that. Yeah. You can
762
00:33:07.809 --> 00:33:08.930
change that word for other words.
763
00:33:08.950 --> 00:33:09.950
No, cunt, cunt, cunt.
764
00:33:10.099 --> 00:33:10.539
It's fine.
765
00:33:10.579 --> 00:33:11.019
But it's funny.
766
00:33:11.059 --> 00:33:13.099
Hey, Sona! So unexpected. I just want to make sure
767
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:14.079
people know Sona said that.
768
00:33:14.099 --> 00:33:14.720
Cunt, cunt, cunt, cunt.
769
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:15.119
Yeah, cool.
770
00:33:15.140 --> 00:33:15.579
Okay, there you go.
771
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:16.559
Now we're good.
772
00:33:16.740 --> 00:33:21.579
You know what's funny? Why is it you have better
773
00:33:21.619 --> 00:33:25.569
material than I do? This is frustrating. But it is
774
00:33:25.670 --> 00:33:29.829
funny how I did have an experience that I really loved.
775
00:33:30.130 --> 00:33:31.569
We shot a travel show in Berlin.
776
00:33:31.589 --> 00:33:35.160
Hmm. Oh, I'm going to Berlin in a couple of weeks.
777
00:33:35.339 --> 00:33:35.660
Let me know.
778
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:36.319
Is it for work?
779
00:33:36.619 --> 00:33:36.799
Yes.
780
00:33:37.220 --> 00:33:39.369
Okay. This was a while ago. I won't be going
781
00:33:39.390 --> 00:33:43.650
there anytime too soon. But we shot a segment where
782
00:33:43.670 --> 00:33:47.789
I believe I'm in a very, very fast BMW that's
783
00:33:48.349 --> 00:33:51.410
latest model, fastest model. And we go on the Autobahn.
784
00:33:51.950 --> 00:33:53.690
And what I always heard about the Autobahn is you
785
00:33:53.710 --> 00:33:56.019
can go as fast as you want. There are no
786
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:59.420
speed limits. That's not really true. There are sections of
787
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:02.099
the Autobahn where I would crank it up as fast
788
00:34:02.140 --> 00:34:06.440
as I could go. But they're short. And then it's like, no, no, no,
789
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:07.940
this part you have to slow down to like 55
790
00:34:07.940 --> 00:34:13.239
kilometers an hour or whatever. What was the fastest you went?
791
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:15.559
I have to look it up. 55.
792
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:20.019
It was 55. No, we went, I think, I mean,
793
00:34:20.059 --> 00:34:21.800
it would not be impressive to you. It was impressive
794
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:25.210
for me that we, I'd have to find the speed
795
00:34:25.369 --> 00:34:28.789
that we got to, but I was impressed. It was
796
00:34:28.809 --> 00:34:30.050
an unimpressive speed for you. Did it make your palms
797
00:34:30.070 --> 00:34:32.000
a little bit sweaty? They were sweaty anyway.
798
00:34:32.019 --> 00:34:33.400
A lot of the time on- I'm a bit of
799
00:34:33.420 --> 00:34:35.360
a pervert, but- Ever since the Taurus.
800
00:34:35.429 --> 00:34:38.570
Yeah. No, I want to say it was- I think
801
00:34:38.590 --> 00:34:40.889
you got up to like 121 or 126 miles per hour. Yeah,
802
00:34:40.909 --> 00:34:44.349
which to me, I mean, you said you've done two,
803
00:34:44.469 --> 00:34:44.840
what is it?
804
00:34:45.230 --> 00:34:48.210
The fastest we went on track in the Ferrari Challenge
805
00:34:48.250 --> 00:34:48.789
car was 170, I think.
806
00:34:48.829 --> 00:34:48.989
Wow.
807
00:34:49.010 --> 00:34:54.449
Okay. But that's weirdly everyone.
808
00:34:53.909 --> 00:34:58.050
Was pulling a trailer. The first thing it had three horses.
809
00:34:58.070 --> 00:35:06.090
That was through the drive through. That's what everyone always
810
00:35:06.150 --> 00:35:07.590
asked though. And they're like, Oh wait, how did fast
811
00:35:07.630 --> 00:35:08.670
you go on track? And a lot of the, a
812
00:35:08.690 --> 00:35:10.809
lot of the tracks, you don't go that fast because
813
00:35:10.829 --> 00:35:12.949
the straights aren't that long and it's not, and it's
814
00:35:12.969 --> 00:35:14.929
not the sitting going fast in a straight line. That's
815
00:35:14.949 --> 00:35:17.480
the difficult bit. Anyway, that's how everyone can put their
816
00:35:17.500 --> 00:35:19.480
foot to the floor and go up through gears. It's
817
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:21.579
a bit getting through the corners quickly, which is the scary.
818
00:35:22.210 --> 00:35:24.860
difficult bit and how well the brakes work the first
819
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:26.360
time using the brakes in a race car you'd like
820
00:35:26.989 --> 00:35:29.030
just kind of kick your foot to the brake as
821
00:35:29.050 --> 00:35:32.880
hard as you can and it's everything like they stop
822
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:35.119
quick and it's it's impressive but then trying to get
823
00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:37.519
that right whilst you're turning and releasing them and then
824
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:39.360
and then you go into the pits and they're like
825
00:35:39.739 --> 00:35:41.179
look at your time and they're like well this is
826
00:35:41.219 --> 00:35:43.760
why you were slow because you you you hit the
827
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:47.179
brake one car length too early but traveling at 170
828
00:35:47.179 --> 00:35:49.380
miles an hour so you know 0.1 tenths of a
829
00:35:49.420 --> 00:35:50.940
second but then you didn't release it at the right
830
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:53.289
pressure so you lost two tenths of a second and
831
00:35:53.349 --> 00:35:55.670
then this and this, and suddenly you see why the
832
00:35:55.710 --> 00:35:57.590
details of it. And I think that's one of the
833
00:35:57.630 --> 00:35:59.030
reasons I like it as well. I've said this before,
834
00:35:59.050 --> 00:36:02.289
but in acting and filmmaking, there's lots of subjective things
835
00:36:02.349 --> 00:36:04.250
and in racing, that's very objective. They look at it
836
00:36:04.289 --> 00:36:06.239
and they go, this is why you're slow. So do
837
00:36:06.260 --> 00:36:09.599
that better. And you'll be quick and you're like, okay.
838
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:12.860
No, it is refreshing because it's something that I find
839
00:36:12.900 --> 00:36:18.239
refreshing about sports. Uh, not, not participating in this so much,
840
00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:21.440
but as watching them is that things can be measured.
841
00:36:21.699 --> 00:36:21.820
Mm-hmm.
842
00:36:22.409 --> 00:36:25.730
And, um, in comedy, you, no matter what you do,
843
00:36:25.769 --> 00:36:28.210
people go like, eh, not my cup of tea. Yeah. Uh,
844
00:36:28.550 --> 00:36:31.630
or someone can like it. Someone else can hate it. Um,
845
00:36:31.909 --> 00:36:36.090
it's just this miasma. It's this soup. You can never quite, uh,
846
00:36:36.210 --> 00:36:39.840
say no, no empirically this wins because how can you
847
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:43.699
do that? Uh, but in, and that's true of all
848
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:45.699
the arts. Like when, sometimes when I watch the Oscars
849
00:36:45.739 --> 00:36:47.699
or any award show, I think this is so crazy.
850
00:36:47.739 --> 00:36:50.989
How can we. be comparing all of these things and
851
00:36:51.030 --> 00:36:53.760
who's deciding and what does that even mean? It always
852
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:55.739
seems ridiculous to me.
853
00:36:56.369 --> 00:36:59.269
Let me ask you something career wise was there ever
854
00:36:59.309 --> 00:37:01.630
a measurement that you hoped to attain that you were
855
00:37:01.650 --> 00:37:03.889
like oh if I attain this or reach this or
856
00:37:03.909 --> 00:37:06.849
this happens that'll be a good barometer of like oh
857
00:37:06.869 --> 00:37:11.619
of course I'm good I've done it what was it sorry.
858
00:37:11.059 --> 00:37:13.059
What was it is it right now welcome to the
859
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:16.920
Nicholas if I could get Nicholas Holt to ask me
860
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:22.380
questions as if I were interesting that's my that's my
861
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:28.929
EGOT that's my EGOT uh No, I remembered my career
862
00:37:29.030 --> 00:37:34.090
has been a series of me thinking, if I could
863
00:37:34.130 --> 00:37:39.670
get to this point, then I'd never worry about anything again.
864
00:37:40.710 --> 00:37:44.630
And that goes back to me being 22 and just
865
00:37:44.670 --> 00:37:46.889
thinking if I could just make a living as a
866
00:37:46.909 --> 00:37:50.300
comedy writer. And then I did. And I'm like, OK, well.
867
00:37:51.139 --> 00:37:54.849
The minute you attain something, you have disdain for it.
868
00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:58.179
What's next? What's the next level then?
869
00:37:58.530 --> 00:38:04.550
For me, I think cover of Men's Health in a Speedo.
870
00:38:05.889 --> 00:38:07.110
Just like super cut.
871
00:38:07.170 --> 00:38:09.949
You should pivot. On the bonnet of the Taurus.
872
00:38:13.750 --> 00:38:14.210
Washing it.
873
00:38:15.489 --> 00:38:19.429
Making sure it's extra clean.
874
00:38:19.809 --> 00:38:25.849
I think it's time 61-year-old men of my complexion who
875
00:38:26.050 --> 00:38:28.710
work out intermittently are seen as sex symbols.
876
00:38:28.849 --> 00:38:30.449
This country's already going through enough.
877
00:38:30.769 --> 00:38:32.510
I think this country can handle more.
878
00:38:33.309 --> 00:38:37.289
It's what the country needs. It's a man of the hour.
879
00:38:37.329 --> 00:38:41.250
It's funny because I was very young and a writer
880
00:38:41.409 --> 00:38:44.809
on Saturday Night Live and We won an Emmy when
881
00:38:44.849 --> 00:38:47.210
I was there for a season that I've been working
882
00:38:47.389 --> 00:38:50.389
on and we won and I was in my twenties.
883
00:38:50.449 --> 00:38:54.039
And I remember thinking, wow, you know, this, I won
884
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:56.300
an Emmy. This is going to change everything. And of
885
00:38:56.360 --> 00:39:00.920
course it doesn't change anything. None of these things change
886
00:39:01.340 --> 00:39:05.260
anything really. And so it's just been this constant education
887
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:08.949
and re-education and re-education. It's all an illusion. You just keep,
888
00:39:09.210 --> 00:39:12.070
you just keep going. And I think for, I mean,
889
00:39:12.369 --> 00:39:15.219
your analogy would be There's not going to be any
890
00:39:15.300 --> 00:39:19.360
point in a car where you're going to say, I'm satisfied, right?
891
00:39:19.420 --> 00:39:20.039
You're going to keep.
892
00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:22.199
I mean, I guess if you go and win, you
893
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:26.550
can get... Oh, that's right. You can win. But then,
894
00:39:26.590 --> 00:39:28.650
of course, that's... Then it's like, you've got to do
895
00:39:28.710 --> 00:39:30.320
it again. You've got to do it again. or you've
896
00:39:30.340 --> 00:39:32.079
got to go to a different track and do it again.
897
00:39:32.099 --> 00:39:34.460
You've got to defend like, yeah, there's always, did.
898
00:39:34.380 --> 00:39:36.219
You stand on top of the car when you won
899
00:39:36.570 --> 00:39:36.969
the race?
900
00:39:37.289 --> 00:39:38.070
No, I didn't act.
901
00:39:38.090 --> 00:39:39.469
What are you supposed to do? There are all these
902
00:39:39.510 --> 00:39:41.269
iconic things you're supposed to do when you win.
903
00:39:41.510 --> 00:39:44.170
We went, I got on the podium and, and they,
904
00:39:44.309 --> 00:39:46.550
they gave a bottle of champagne and, and I, I'd
905
00:39:46.590 --> 00:39:48.489
never done that before the spring champagne thing. And I
906
00:39:48.530 --> 00:39:53.710
did a terrible job. Popped it, it didn't really squirt anywhere.
907
00:39:53.829 --> 00:39:56.090
And then I saw the other guy on the podium,
908
00:39:56.150 --> 00:39:57.750
one of them hit the bottle on the ground. So
909
00:39:57.809 --> 00:39:59.730
I kind of did that to try and get it
910
00:39:59.750 --> 00:40:01.940
to fizz, but it just kind of, a load fell out.
911
00:40:02.059 --> 00:40:03.679
And then it was like, it was just all a
912
00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:05.920
bit of a mess. Because when you see people spraying champagne,
913
00:40:05.980 --> 00:40:06.880
it looks cool and awesome.
914
00:40:06.900 --> 00:40:07.519
I'm like, yeah.
915
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:09.119
Did they take your trophy away?
916
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:10.800
They should have done.
917
00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:13.000
It was an absolute disgrace.
918
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:16.780
You could see them taking your car with a tow truck.
919
00:40:16.820 --> 00:40:17.760
They took the car back.
920
00:40:18.219 --> 00:40:19.440
And then I'm like, I can fix this.
921
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:21.739
I can do better. So I'm shaking it. I'm sticking
922
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:23.440
my thumb in there. And by then, like, there's not
923
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:24.610
enough in there. It's not fizzy enough.
924
00:40:24.619 --> 00:40:27.469
And then everyone's left. Yeah. You're there late at night.
925
00:40:27.489 --> 00:40:28.170
The sun's gone down.
926
00:40:28.369 --> 00:40:32.010
You're there with a Diet 7-Up, shaking it. Come on!
927
00:40:32.170 --> 00:40:33.329
I still do it every morning, yeah.
928
00:40:37.150 --> 00:40:40.130
Do you uh i have this is what i'm saying
929
00:40:40.150 --> 00:40:43.989
does this does any of this translate does your driving
930
00:40:44.030 --> 00:40:48.699
ability translate to you on the 405 freeway does anything
931
00:40:48.739 --> 00:40:52.579
like that translator you are you an amazing driver going
932
00:40:52.579 --> 00:40:55.599
55 miles an hour on the highway to get your
933
00:40:55.619 --> 00:40:56.480
oil changed.
934
00:40:56.340 --> 00:40:58.480
No no i don't think so i just get bored
935
00:40:58.500 --> 00:41:02.840
sitting and on motorways, stop, start and whatever. It's, it's so,
936
00:41:02.860 --> 00:41:05.219
it's a completely different, um, I like to think that
937
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:08.090
maybe my reaction time and if something happened, my car
938
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:11.130
control would be good, but luckily I've never had to
939
00:41:11.730 --> 00:41:13.489
use it on the road.
940
00:41:13.909 --> 00:41:14.510
Yeah. Yeah.
941
00:41:14.590 --> 00:41:15.050
That's good.
942
00:41:15.369 --> 00:41:17.510
You just knocked wood in. I don't think this is wood.
943
00:41:18.550 --> 00:41:19.849
What do you mean? This is definitely wood.
944
00:41:20.030 --> 00:41:21.030
This is definitely wood.
945
00:41:21.090 --> 00:41:24.409
I thought this was an expensive piece of wood.
946
00:41:24.530 --> 00:41:26.969
I don't trust Eduardo. I think he cheaped out on us.
947
00:41:27.130 --> 00:41:28.269
He found something cheaper than wood.
948
00:41:28.289 --> 00:41:29.780
It might be particle wood.
949
00:41:29.889 --> 00:41:30.559
Yeah.
950
00:41:31.860 --> 00:41:32.719
It's better for the sound, right?
951
00:41:32.739 --> 00:41:33.000
Yeah.
952
00:41:34.900 --> 00:41:35.880
He gets it. Yeah.
953
00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:39.599
You get it. I don't get it. How do you
954
00:41:39.659 --> 00:41:43.650
like living in Los Angeles area? We were talking about
955
00:41:43.670 --> 00:41:45.230
this a little bit when you first showed up, but
956
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:48.559
It's so interesting. Maybe it's the grass is always greener,
957
00:41:48.579 --> 00:41:54.110
but having 100% Irish genes, I always find myself yearning
958
00:41:54.150 --> 00:41:57.909
for it to be cloudy and rainy here in Los Angeles.
959
00:41:58.409 --> 00:42:01.849
But for years, I've noticed that people from the UK Brits,
960
00:42:01.909 --> 00:42:05.739
they want to be here. They are not interested at
961
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:08.699
all in a cloudy day. They want to get red
962
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:11.099
in it faced. I don't know.
963
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:12.719
It's Do they?
964
00:42:13.139 --> 00:42:16.789
Well, I think so, yeah. They love tanning. Do you
965
00:42:16.809 --> 00:42:19.010
think I'm onto something here? Well, you know what?
966
00:42:19.670 --> 00:42:22.190
The reverse of that would be my wife was like,
967
00:42:22.289 --> 00:42:23.889
when we first met, she was like, oh, I love,
968
00:42:24.150 --> 00:42:26.070
she's from here. She was like, oh, I love rain.
969
00:42:26.110 --> 00:42:27.590
I love cloudy days, whatever. And I was like, oh, cool.
970
00:42:27.849 --> 00:42:29.760
And we were back in London for a while shooting
971
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:31.960
some of the great for six months. And I think
972
00:42:31.980 --> 00:42:34.219
it was rainy and cloudy and cold for most of
973
00:42:34.260 --> 00:42:37.719
that time. And she quickly realized that she didn't enjoy that.
974
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:39.380
There's something about if you grow up in the sun
975
00:42:39.420 --> 00:42:41.960
where you kind of, have this romantic idea of rain
976
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:44.320
and gray and cold and all this. But actually when
977
00:42:44.340 --> 00:42:46.440
you put her in it, she was like, no, this isn't.
978
00:42:46.460 --> 00:42:48.059
And you're happy. You, you like it here.
979
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:49.679
I like being in the sun. I mean, I miss,
980
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:51.739
I miss London. I miss pubs and the theater and
981
00:42:51.900 --> 00:42:54.260
friends and, and a lot of the things about the
982
00:42:54.300 --> 00:42:57.460
lifestyle and being able to walk more places. So I
983
00:42:57.500 --> 00:42:59.059
do miss it. But I mean, the thing about my
984
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:00.679
job is I'm always kind of on the road in
985
00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:03.889
different places. So I'm finding this a nice base at
986
00:43:03.909 --> 00:43:04.239
the moment.
987
00:43:04.489 --> 00:43:06.739
The, uh, we're talking, I want to make sure we
988
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:09.969
get the word out on Nosferatu. Where did you shoot this?
989
00:43:09.989 --> 00:43:10.949
Where did you shoot Nosferatu?
990
00:43:10.969 --> 00:43:11.760
We shot it in Prague.
991
00:43:12.300 --> 00:43:15.300
Oh, my God. See, that is why I do a
992
00:43:15.340 --> 00:43:17.400
travel show is that for years and years and years,
993
00:43:17.500 --> 00:43:20.260
for 28 years, I sat at a talk show desk
994
00:43:20.739 --> 00:43:23.119
and talked to people like you who said, oh, I
995
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:24.360
just got back from Prague.
996
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:24.760
Yeah.
997
00:43:24.900 --> 00:43:26.059
Have you been there for the show?
998
00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:28.340
No, I've never been to Prague. I want to go there. Oh,
999
00:43:28.340 --> 00:43:29.039
you should do.
1000
00:43:28.969 --> 00:43:30.320
An episode going there.
1001
00:43:30.449 --> 00:43:31.090
Yeah, I will.
1002
00:43:31.389 --> 00:43:35.050
In like alignment with Nosferatu coming out.
1003
00:43:35.269 --> 00:43:35.429
Yeah.
1004
00:43:36.380 --> 00:43:38.780
Oh, so you want me to travel to get the
1005
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:40.199
word out on Nosferatu.
1006
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:40.599
Thank you.
1007
00:43:40.780 --> 00:43:43.420
All right, Sona, could you book me a flight to Prague?
1008
00:43:43.539 --> 00:43:43.860
Sure.
1009
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:44.820
And get me a tea.
1010
00:43:45.219 --> 00:43:46.639
Good, good acting.
1011
00:43:46.699 --> 00:43:49.440
Good, really good acting.
1012
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:50.599
All done, bye.
1013
00:43:50.619 --> 00:43:54.099
And could you have a shirt made that says Nosferatu
1014
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:56.280
in theaters now? Let's see that.
1015
00:43:56.320 --> 00:43:57.300
Can you screen print it?
1016
00:43:57.409 --> 00:43:58.219
Oh, wow.
1017
00:43:58.300 --> 00:43:59.030
Whoa, laser printer.
1018
00:43:59.179 --> 00:43:59.590
It's a thing.
1019
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:07.639
Stupid. What kind of machine makes this? Do all your
1020
00:44:07.659 --> 00:44:11.000
machines make noises like that? Yeah. Your guillotine probably goes.
1021
00:44:13.099 --> 00:44:16.050
I'd like to hear the guillotine.
1022
00:44:16.130 --> 00:44:19.809
Yeah, let's hear the guillotine. Splort.
1023
00:44:20.530 --> 00:44:21.070
Splort.
1024
00:44:21.090 --> 00:44:23.739
There needs to be a little bit of a.
1025
00:44:23.730 --> 00:44:26.110
Yeah, it's sort of a wet. He landed on his tongue.
1026
00:44:27.349 --> 00:44:30.349
I don't know what happened there. It's kind of a
1027
00:44:30.369 --> 00:44:31.469
fun choice guillotine, isn't it?
1028
00:44:32.980 --> 00:44:35.179
Didn't realize the French Revolution was so humorous.
1029
00:44:35.340 --> 00:44:47.949
Yes. Benny Hill in the French Revolution. Okay, you made Nosferatu,
1030
00:44:48.449 --> 00:44:52.110
directed by one of my favorites, Robert Eggers. I love
1031
00:44:52.449 --> 00:44:52.909
his stuff.
1032
00:44:52.949 --> 00:44:53.789
He's incredible, isn't he?
1033
00:44:53.889 --> 00:44:58.809
Absolutely incredible. And so, I mean, I'm excited to just
1034
00:44:58.829 --> 00:45:02.639
see the look of the film. I mean, he always achieves.
1035
00:45:03.159 --> 00:45:04.780
I mean, I'm, I'm, I agree with you. I'm such
1036
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:06.530
a huge fan of his. I love his movies. I
1037
00:45:06.550 --> 00:45:09.429
love the performances in his movies. Um, he is, I
1038
00:45:09.969 --> 00:45:12.809
think a real or to a filmmaker and, and one
1039
00:45:12.829 --> 00:45:16.219
of the greatest working and alive. He's, he's just, and it's,
1040
00:45:16.500 --> 00:45:17.659
you know what I was thinking about this the other
1041
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:19.780
day as well. He's so dedicated to the craft of
1042
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:24.079
filmmaking in terms of technically, emotionally, historically, what he creates.
1043
00:45:24.610 --> 00:45:26.860
There were moments where he was like watching old films
1044
00:45:26.900 --> 00:45:28.820
to try and figure out what was the best snow
1045
00:45:28.860 --> 00:45:31.239
we could use. Cause we shot all on, all on film.
1046
00:45:31.260 --> 00:45:33.730
He's he's like you said, the look is so important
1047
00:45:33.750 --> 00:45:35.949
in terms of telling the story, but he, so he was,
1048
00:45:36.190 --> 00:45:37.869
he was like, why is the, why is the snow
1049
00:45:37.909 --> 00:45:39.309
good in these movies? But it's not good in these.
1050
00:45:39.329 --> 00:45:42.159
And then he found like some old stock snow that
1051
00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:45.360
isn't made anymore. fake snow from the 90s or whatever,
1052
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:48.320
and they managed to locate just enough. That's asbestos. And
1053
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:50.920
I'm breathing this asbestos in, and I'm like, God, this
1054
00:45:51.019 --> 00:45:53.300
movie's beautiful, and it's worth it.
1055
00:45:53.420 --> 00:45:55.119
There's a reason they don't use it anymore.
1056
00:45:55.139 --> 00:45:56.239
So I was poisoning myself.
1057
00:45:56.320 --> 00:46:00.300
God, it looks good on screen. He is like, yeah.
1058
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:05.239
It's just his dedication to the details of historically, but
1059
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:08.530
also exploring the occult and the emotional aspects of this story.
1060
00:46:09.070 --> 00:46:10.590
It's something he's wanted to make since he was eight
1061
00:46:10.610 --> 00:46:12.110
years old, and there was a play of it he
1062
00:46:12.150 --> 00:46:15.090
did at school. So no one could have told it better.
1063
00:46:15.110 --> 00:46:17.369
What are the Eggers movies that you were really drawn to?
1064
00:46:17.710 --> 00:46:19.050
I mean, The Witch was the first one I saw
1065
00:46:19.070 --> 00:46:20.829
and I met him after that, which I just thought
1066
00:46:21.269 --> 00:46:24.619
all his movies feel so real, which is kind of
1067
00:46:24.659 --> 00:46:27.380
a weird thing because I'm not necessarily like a horror fan.
1068
00:46:27.659 --> 00:46:30.659
Well, this is, it's so funny because I had the
1069
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:35.340
opportunity to interview Jordan Peele and he was asking me,
1070
00:46:35.659 --> 00:46:37.690
what kind of horror films do you like? And I said,
1071
00:46:37.750 --> 00:46:39.909
I don't like jump, someone jumping out of a bush,
1072
00:46:39.929 --> 00:46:44.449
stabbing jump scares. And someone chasing someone else with a chainsaw.
1073
00:46:45.010 --> 00:46:49.789
And I cited the witch as an example and Eggers
1074
00:46:49.949 --> 00:46:53.809
as an example of there's a wide shot early in
1075
00:46:53.849 --> 00:46:59.289
the film, it's fall and it's New England, 17th century
1076
00:46:59.349 --> 00:47:01.909
New England. And the wind is blowing and you just
1077
00:47:01.929 --> 00:47:06.079
see these trees slightly undulating and it's terrifying because of
1078
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:10.980
the implication of what, something malevolent is out there. He
1079
00:47:11.019 --> 00:47:13.929
managed to make trees in the fall in New England,
1080
00:47:14.429 --> 00:47:18.530
very frightening. And I responded to, there's so much in
1081
00:47:18.570 --> 00:47:22.530
the witch that it's so much of its tone and
1082
00:47:22.590 --> 00:47:24.570
so much of it is, and then there are, yes,
1083
00:47:24.630 --> 00:47:26.489
there are little moments that are frightening, but when you
1084
00:47:26.510 --> 00:47:30.639
think about it, there's so little violence, there's so little action,
1085
00:47:31.139 --> 00:47:32.820
but your heart's in your mouth the whole time.
1086
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:33.019
Yeah.
1087
00:47:33.219 --> 00:47:35.219
Oh, he's a master of creating tension. I think you're
1088
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:36.480
going to love that. I think I'm excited for you
1089
00:47:36.500 --> 00:47:38.960
to see it because it's like the tension he creates,
1090
00:47:38.980 --> 00:47:42.389
but it is visually stunning. and the score and the
1091
00:47:42.449 --> 00:47:45.829
sound is like imposing and fills your bones but then
1092
00:47:45.849 --> 00:47:48.030
there's this weird thing where it's like you're watching and
1093
00:47:48.050 --> 00:47:49.800
you're like you can't take your eyes away because it's
1094
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:52.900
it's like looking at a rembrandt every scene every shot
1095
00:47:52.940 --> 00:47:54.699
but then but then there's also this thing where you
1096
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:56.340
like don't want to look away because you're also this
1097
00:47:56.420 --> 00:47:59.119
is scary something's coming something's happening and it's it's a
1098
00:47:59.300 --> 00:48:01.679
it's a really interesting exploration of kind of the evil
1099
00:48:01.699 --> 00:48:04.699
that we all have within ourselves but also externally coming
1100
00:48:04.739 --> 00:48:07.380
and how that affects us so I'm excited. I think
1101
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:08.099
it's a really good movie.
1102
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:09.849
What was the period? Is it 1890s?
1103
00:48:10.219 --> 00:48:14.219
Yeah, in Pittsburgh, Germany. So it's kind of a gothic tale,
1104
00:48:14.260 --> 00:48:16.599
I guess. But then, yeah, going back to his movies,
1105
00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:19.210
of course, The Lighthouse, and Willem Dafoe's in this one
1106
00:48:19.250 --> 00:48:22.769
as well. Him and Rob were so brilliant in that movie.
1107
00:48:22.789 --> 00:48:26.250
We did a travel show in Dublin last year, and
1108
00:48:26.730 --> 00:48:28.809
we drove around and we went to Wicklow, which there's
1109
00:48:28.849 --> 00:48:32.619
this great iconic lighthouse, and I got all made up
1110
00:48:33.099 --> 00:48:36.119
as Willem Dafoe. Mm-hmm. in the lighthouse and I have
1111
00:48:36.179 --> 00:48:41.059
this long, insane speech that we shot in black and white.
1112
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:42.800
You're doing promo for the lighthouse then, so you can
1113
00:48:42.820 --> 00:48:43.769
do something that's right.
1114
00:48:44.710 --> 00:48:47.769
You better make another shirt. What I'm saying is go
1115
00:48:47.829 --> 00:48:49.269
check out the lighthouse.
1116
00:48:49.429 --> 00:48:51.070
Get the costume on as well.
1117
00:48:51.090 --> 00:48:51.969
I'll send you the script.
1118
00:48:52.030 --> 00:48:53.809
What I loved about that, I guess what I loved
1119
00:48:53.829 --> 00:48:57.760
about that movie is the performances are amazing, but also
1120
00:48:57.820 --> 00:49:01.679
you're paying attention to like the button on someone's weird suit,
1121
00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:04.760
which is very... somehow evocative.
1122
00:49:04.780 --> 00:49:05.260
Yeah.
1123
00:49:05.460 --> 00:49:07.019
He manages to get all that stuff right. And I'm
1124
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:13.889
thinking Gothic, Nosferatu, late 19th century field day with the visuals.
1125
00:49:14.090 --> 00:49:17.030
Oh, the costumes, Linda, the costumes that she created are
1126
00:49:17.190 --> 00:49:19.969
all impeccable and stunning, but it is all that detailing.
1127
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:23.059
It's like his historical knowledge of everything going on. He, he,
1128
00:49:23.380 --> 00:49:25.480
and because he leads from the front with such passion,
1129
00:49:25.659 --> 00:49:27.840
everyone around just really wants to bring their best and
1130
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:31.139
do their best, um, to serve his vision. But then
1131
00:49:31.340 --> 00:49:33.820
I would text him thinking he'd be asleep about something
1132
00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:36.460
in like the middle of the night, in the middle
1133
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:38.019
of the day here, but which middle of the night
1134
00:49:38.059 --> 00:49:39.880
in London. And he'd be like, oh, I'm up. I'm
1135
00:49:39.909 --> 00:49:42.940
researching which cigars your character should smoke in this scene
1136
00:49:42.980 --> 00:49:45.099
and whatever. He'd be like, dude, go to bed. It's
1137
00:49:45.099 --> 00:49:45.820
3 or 4 a.m.
1138
00:49:45.860 --> 00:49:46.739
In London. What are you doing?
1139
00:49:46.780 --> 00:49:49.880
But he's just constantly so, so in the zone of
1140
00:49:50.300 --> 00:49:51.420
what's right for the story.
1141
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:57.019
Smoking thousands of cigars. He's vomiting. I've got to get
1142
00:49:57.079 --> 00:50:02.639
the right one. I am, well, listen, I am a huge...
1143
00:50:03.510 --> 00:50:08.039
Huge fan of yours as a person, but I just
1144
00:50:08.059 --> 00:50:11.659
think your performances are off the charts great. And this
1145
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:15.440
movie is made for me. Oh, yeah, Bill Skarsgård?
1146
00:50:15.619 --> 00:50:15.820
Yeah.
1147
00:50:16.050 --> 00:50:18.989
Oh, his performance is magic as well. Because he's created
1148
00:50:19.409 --> 00:50:22.349
this monster, Count Orlok, but he's given it such history
1149
00:50:22.789 --> 00:50:25.650
and rooted it in something very real. So it's terrifying,
1150
00:50:25.690 --> 00:50:27.989
it's scary, but it's also real.
1151
00:50:28.010 --> 00:50:33.699
I'm curious because... My work is always, I make something
1152
00:50:33.739 --> 00:50:37.059
and then we see it either instantly or 10 minutes later,
1153
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:39.619
and then I never see it again. Your work is
1154
00:50:39.659 --> 00:50:42.380
you work really hard on something, craft it, you make it,
1155
00:50:42.659 --> 00:50:45.070
you have some control over some facets of it, but,
1156
00:50:45.610 --> 00:50:47.610
and then this long period of time goes by, I
1157
00:50:47.619 --> 00:50:51.210
would think before you see it, how apprehensive are you about, okay,
1158
00:50:51.250 --> 00:50:55.369
now it's time for me to go see myself in Nosferatu.
1159
00:50:55.829 --> 00:50:57.289
I don't like that. I don't like that. I always
1160
00:50:57.550 --> 00:50:58.909
equate it to like when you're at school and you
1161
00:50:58.929 --> 00:51:00.369
did a test and you're waiting for the results to
1162
00:51:00.389 --> 00:51:00.590
come in.
1163
00:51:00.789 --> 00:51:00.989
Yeah.
1164
00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:04.199
There's that nerve wracking feeling where you're like, and it
1165
00:51:04.219 --> 00:51:07.030
depends also how you left the shoot in terms of
1166
00:51:07.090 --> 00:51:10.050
how you, your overall feeling there. Like, did you feel
1167
00:51:10.070 --> 00:51:11.929
like you gave a lot of variation on each scene
1168
00:51:12.409 --> 00:51:14.170
in the edit? If they want, they're going to have options.
1169
00:51:14.210 --> 00:51:17.610
Did you feel like you explored everything you could have done?
1170
00:51:17.690 --> 00:51:19.860
And then that's a different feeling as opposed to if
1171
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:21.820
you walk away from something and you go, I think
1172
00:51:21.860 --> 00:51:23.659
I missed a bit here or actually that could have
1173
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:26.019
been better. And suddenly then you're looking back and you're like,
1174
00:51:26.719 --> 00:51:28.940
oh no. So it's an odd feeling waiting for something
1175
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.320
to come out and not something I look forward to particularly.
1176
00:51:31.860 --> 00:51:35.599
I'll say from my vantage point, your work is excellent.
1177
00:51:36.019 --> 00:51:38.619
And so, and trust me, I think a word from
1178
00:51:38.659 --> 00:51:41.539
Conan O'Brien carries a lot of weight in the film industry.
1179
00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:42.039
Yeah.
1180
00:51:42.980 --> 00:51:43.320
Huh.
1181
00:51:43.510 --> 00:51:44.260
The car fucker.
1182
00:51:44.590 --> 00:51:46.010
Yeah.
1183
00:51:46.289 --> 00:51:49.570
Red onesie, the car fucker.
1184
00:51:49.889 --> 00:51:55.949
Five stars. Five stars from the tourist fucker. Absolutely thrilled
1185
00:51:55.969 --> 00:51:59.230
that you could be here today. And I do want
1186
00:51:59.250 --> 00:52:02.030
to be your friend. I doubt, I doubt it's going
1187
00:52:02.050 --> 00:52:06.670
to happen. We can definitely be friends. No, I have
1188
00:52:06.750 --> 00:52:07.269
a bad feeling.
1189
00:52:07.289 --> 00:52:10.570
You gave me the sheet. You made me say it.
1190
00:52:10.630 --> 00:52:11.889
I'm going to say it's not going to happen on
1191
00:52:11.929 --> 00:52:13.429
your end. I'm going to say you're the one that's
1192
00:52:13.449 --> 00:52:14.780
going to.
1193
00:52:14.820 --> 00:52:18.380
Just keep calling and breathing down the phone. I'm always waiting.
1194
00:52:18.420 --> 00:52:18.960
Nicholas.
1195
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:20.980
It's the only reason I've still got a landline.
1196
00:52:21.059 --> 00:52:27.139
It's me. But congrats on the new film, Nosferatu, and
1197
00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:30.559
thank you so much for stopping by and for being...
1198
00:52:30.889 --> 00:52:33.369
So funny and terrific.
1199
00:52:33.610 --> 00:52:34.789
Thanks for having me. Appreciate it.
1200
00:52:35.409 --> 00:52:39.059
Peace out, Tupac. Oh, God. No one expects that.
1201
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:39.159
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you do not already use nicotine.
1222
00:53:47.869 --> 00:53:51.130
A new McDonald's side mission has been unlocked. The Quarter
1223
00:53:51.170 --> 00:53:56.309
Pounder Deluxe Legendary Edition. With double American cheese, crispy lettuce,
1224
00:53:56.809 --> 00:54:00.710
fresh mustard and tomato. Available until the 29th of September.
1225
00:54:00.969 --> 00:54:05.530
Take a side mission to McDonald's. From 11am, Wastock Slash.
1226
00:54:05.570 --> 00:54:07.320
Subject to availability, participation varies.
1227
00:54:13.659 --> 00:54:14.900
What's up, Matt Gurley? What's the plan?
1228
00:54:15.289 --> 00:54:17.510
Well, we're going to do another staff review.
1229
00:54:17.630 --> 00:54:21.519
I love staff reviews because as the... What is my
1230
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:25.159
title at this company? Am I CEO?
1231
00:54:25.179 --> 00:54:25.239
No.
1232
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:26.940
Am I chairman?
1233
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:27.019
No.
1234
00:54:27.019 --> 00:54:29.139
Am I... I feel like you're just.
1235
00:54:31.179 --> 00:54:33.469
Talent.
1236
00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:34.880
Are you admitting I have talent?
1237
00:54:34.940 --> 00:54:37.599
I'm saying you're not someone who's like making like, hey guys,
1238
00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:41.340
let's wheeling and dealing decisions. I'm doing it.
1239
00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:44.000
I do that, but that's all I do. All I
1240
00:54:44.019 --> 00:54:46.460
do is come into meetings and go, hey guys, let's
1241
00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:50.599
do some wheeling and dealing. And then Adam and Fedorovich
1242
00:54:50.659 --> 00:54:53.139
and Ross are all like, what? And I'm like, yeah,
1243
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:56.199
some wheeling and dealing. And they just push me out
1244
00:54:56.219 --> 00:55:00.639
of the room. And I've got my shirt buttoned down. Yeah. Yeah.
1245
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:02.179
You're the face of this company.
1246
00:55:02.460 --> 00:55:02.559
Yeah.
1247
00:55:02.619 --> 00:55:08.280
And what a face. Yeah. Okay. Let's move on. I like,
1248
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:12.500
as the grand poobah, I like talking to the employees
1249
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:14.780
and telling them how I think they could do better.
1250
00:55:14.989 --> 00:55:15.239
Okay.
1251
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:18.690
So today we have Eduardo, who is currently hiding behind
1252
00:55:18.710 --> 00:55:19.110
his monitor.
1253
00:55:19.130 --> 00:55:23.130
Eduardo, don't hide. And be a man about this, Eduardo.
1254
00:55:23.289 --> 00:55:25.750
Can you step away from the machinery that you employ?
1255
00:55:25.769 --> 00:55:25.840
Yes.
1256
00:55:26.309 --> 00:55:30.469
Who's going to watch the levels? Adam. Adam's over there
1257
00:55:30.590 --> 00:55:34.739
checking the levels. Have a seat, Eduardo.
1258
00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:37.940
Is this your first time at the table?
1259
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:41.980
I think for the hopping, I was interrogated. Just have
1260
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:44.360
a little seat there, Eduardo. Buckle up.
1261
00:55:44.900 --> 00:55:45.519
Buckle up.
1262
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:49.800
Okay, now, Eduardo, if you don't mind, this is a very,
1263
00:55:50.449 --> 00:55:54.079
very large company. Huge company. They literally have tens of
1264
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:55.699
thousands of employees. Your full name, please?
1265
00:55:56.000 --> 00:55:57.039
Eduardo Perez.
1266
00:55:57.320 --> 00:55:58.980
Okay, Eduardo Perez.
1267
00:55:59.219 --> 00:56:01.239
As I've said before, Eduardo Perez.
1268
00:56:01.559 --> 00:56:06.480
There you go. Let me help you. Eduardo Perez. Perfect. So,
1269
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:13.949
Eduardo Perez. Eduardo, you are... I'm going to start by
1270
00:56:14.130 --> 00:56:16.710
buttering you up before I chop you down. You made
1271
00:56:16.849 --> 00:56:20.679
this beautiful studio that we're in, state-of-the-art studio. You're a
1272
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:24.929
very talented guy, and I applaud you for your work.
1273
00:56:25.010 --> 00:56:25.409
Thank you.
1274
00:56:25.670 --> 00:56:26.030
Thank you.
1275
00:56:26.050 --> 00:56:29.010
I did it with the help of many other individuals.
1276
00:56:29.030 --> 00:56:29.909
I can't take all the credit.
1277
00:56:29.929 --> 00:56:33.829
They're not here right now, but you did a fantastic job,
1278
00:56:33.909 --> 00:56:36.760
and you've done, as far as I can tell, mostly
1279
00:56:36.780 --> 00:56:40.980
a really good job here. Excellent job. Describe your duties.
1280
00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:43.440
You have to make sure that the equipment's all functioning.
1281
00:56:43.500 --> 00:56:43.900
Duties.
1282
00:56:44.820 --> 00:56:45.480
Duties, yes.
1283
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:46.900
Hey, your staff review's next.
1284
00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:47.880
Yeah.
1285
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:48.420
Take it easy.
1286
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:48.619
Yeah.
1287
00:56:49.849 --> 00:56:51.969
Uh, my duties relative to this show.
1288
00:56:52.030 --> 00:56:52.219
Yes.
1289
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:55.480
Yes. I, uh, I engineer, I make sure that you
1290
00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:58.119
all sound as great as you can.
1291
00:56:58.139 --> 00:57:02.800
Um, and who has the most challenging voice of the
1292
00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:03.280
three of us?
1293
00:57:03.880 --> 00:57:06.159
Uh, honestly, I would say you do.
1294
00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:07.079
What's what's challenging.
1295
00:57:07.099 --> 00:57:11.440
You're very dynamic. So you get very excited and loud.
1296
00:57:11.699 --> 00:57:15.059
And then, but sometimes you, you, because of your, it's.
1297
00:57:14.900 --> 00:57:16.179
Called being a rageaholic.
1298
00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:16.320
Yeah.
1299
00:57:17.380 --> 00:57:21.489
I explode in rage. No, I know that when I
1300
00:57:21.530 --> 00:57:23.909
have an idea or I want to push something through
1301
00:57:23.949 --> 00:57:27.250
and punch it, you probably have to ride all the dials.
1302
00:57:27.369 --> 00:57:27.690
All the time.
1303
00:57:27.750 --> 00:57:32.199
I'm constantly, exactly, riding your levels the most of all
1304
00:57:32.300 --> 00:57:34.619
three of you. Sometimes a guest will match your energy
1305
00:57:34.639 --> 00:57:36.059
and I'll have to ride you and the guest.
1306
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:40.320
Yeah, that can happen sometimes. That happened with Doris Kearns Goodwin.
1307
00:57:40.340 --> 00:57:40.420
Yeah.
1308
00:57:41.719 --> 00:57:45.519
She was started talking about Lyndon Johnson and she was shouting.
1309
00:57:45.539 --> 00:57:46.559
Yeah.
1310
00:57:46.579 --> 00:57:48.639
And then I was doing bits and she was doing bits.
1311
00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:52.219
You know, it was also difficult to record sometimes. Jimi Hendrix.
1312
00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:56.500
The great artists are sometimes hard to capture.
1313
00:57:56.699 --> 00:57:58.969
You've just you've been doing this for so long that
1314
00:57:59.010 --> 00:58:01.809
I'm surprised you don't know how to like talk into
1315
00:58:01.869 --> 00:58:03.369
a microphone properly.
1316
00:58:03.449 --> 00:58:07.769
I don't care about the devices around me. I mean,
1317
00:58:08.110 --> 00:58:13.670
I do see myself. as a purely artistic cloud that
1318
00:58:13.690 --> 00:58:20.389
just emanates energy, goodness, and genius. And then these machines,
1319
00:58:20.630 --> 00:58:25.150
they aren't my concern. These are the concerns of others. Like,
1320
00:58:25.489 --> 00:58:27.110
is it Eduardo Perez?
1321
00:58:27.190 --> 00:58:28.570
Eduardo Perez, yes, that's right.
1322
00:58:28.769 --> 00:58:32.369
Eduardo, you do a very good job. You did, we
1323
00:58:32.409 --> 00:58:36.179
were recording a certain celebrity recently, I believe it was-
1324
00:58:36.829 --> 00:58:41.090
I believe it was Caitlin Olsen, of course, and very talented, wonderful.
1325
00:58:41.130 --> 00:58:42.269
And she comes in and we were all excited to
1326
00:58:42.309 --> 00:58:45.030
talk to her. And then there was an issue. And
1327
00:58:45.190 --> 00:58:47.730
I hate to bring this up in your review, but
1328
00:58:48.769 --> 00:58:51.110
it felt like you weren't ready to go when it
1329
00:58:51.150 --> 00:58:53.989
was time to go. What happened, Edward? That is correct.
1330
00:58:55.099 --> 00:58:58.059
Right as we were about to get started, the software
1331
00:58:58.099 --> 00:59:02.590
program that I normally use just completely froze. Gorley would
1332
00:59:02.610 --> 00:59:04.530
know this well, anybody who's used a computer before.
1333
00:59:04.550 --> 00:59:06.849
Yeah, and I'm actually pretty fluent in this. I was
1334
00:59:06.889 --> 00:59:08.760
doing a bit before, but which one is it?
1335
00:59:08.989 --> 00:59:09.929
It's called Consul.
1336
00:59:10.139 --> 00:59:10.739
Yeah, Console, yeah.
1337
00:59:10.820 --> 00:59:11.699
Yeah, exactly.
1338
00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:14.460
And so what happened? Be specific and really get into
1339
00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:15.539
the minutiae because I can match you.
1340
00:59:15.699 --> 00:59:16.239
Sure, so the.
1341
00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:18.559
So the spinning wheel of death appeared.
1342
00:59:19.099 --> 00:59:20.199
Well, we all know what that is. It means it
1343
00:59:20.219 --> 00:59:20.679
was buffering.
1344
00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:21.880
Exactly. Exactly.
1345
00:59:21.900 --> 00:59:22.960
And it wouldn't go away.
1346
00:59:22.980 --> 00:59:24.969
Why are you talking to me like I'm a child?
1347
00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:25.590
Wait, what?
1348
00:59:25.780 --> 00:59:26.110
I'm sorry.
1349
00:59:26.130 --> 00:59:26.909
What was buffering?
1350
00:59:27.010 --> 00:59:28.010
Excuse me. Oh, I'm sorry.
1351
00:59:28.070 --> 00:59:28.349
Okay.
1352
00:59:28.570 --> 00:59:32.289
Can you seriously use the real terminology? Because you're talking
1353
00:59:32.309 --> 00:59:34.750
to me like I'm an idiot. I have worked in
1354
00:59:34.769 --> 00:59:36.849
show business for a long time and I know a
1355
00:59:36.969 --> 00:59:40.579
lot about television. I also know about the audio aspect
1356
00:59:40.619 --> 00:59:41.920
of things. So let's have a real. It's not even
1357
00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:44.079
that complex. Well, just please, let's get into it.
1358
00:59:44.079 --> 00:59:46.119
The computer simply froze.
1359
00:59:47.219 --> 00:59:48.119
That's all you've got?
1360
00:59:48.510 --> 00:59:49.590
That's all that happened.
1361
00:59:49.809 --> 00:59:52.190
Okay. And I had to just hit, I had to
1362
00:59:52.250 --> 00:59:53.769
restart the whole system.
1363
00:59:53.969 --> 00:59:54.190
Yes.
1364
00:59:54.369 --> 00:59:55.230
That's all you did?
1365
00:59:55.570 --> 00:59:57.690
That was it. And then I had to load up
1366
00:59:57.730 --> 00:59:58.469
Pro Tools.
1367
00:59:58.510 --> 01:00:00.869
I had to load up console again. You have to
1368
01:00:00.909 --> 01:00:02.789
load Pro Tools. You have to load console. But my
1369
01:00:02.849 --> 01:00:05.570
question is, did you try anything else before you went
1370
01:00:05.630 --> 01:00:08.849
to what anyone would do, which is unplugging it and
1371
01:00:08.869 --> 01:00:10.300
then plugging it back in again? I did, yes.
1372
01:00:10.510 --> 01:00:11.570
I tried to force quit it.
1373
01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:13.139
And try to reboot it.
1374
01:00:13.139 --> 01:00:13.860
Did you try the force?
1375
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:15.340
There is no try. There's only do.
1376
01:00:15.380 --> 01:00:16.300
Do you know how to force quit?
1377
01:00:16.420 --> 01:00:17.280
Yes, of course you do.
1378
01:00:17.300 --> 01:00:17.980
What's the shortcut?
1379
01:00:18.019 --> 01:00:19.610
What's the keystroke for force quit?
1380
01:00:19.659 --> 01:00:23.309
Control alt force quit. Listen, can I tell you something?
1381
01:00:23.329 --> 01:00:25.929
I believe you, that was the easy thing to do.
1382
01:00:25.969 --> 01:00:28.230
And it took a long time. Caitlin had to sit
1383
01:00:28.269 --> 01:00:29.489
here for a little bit because. I feel like it
1384
01:00:29.510 --> 01:00:29.949
was a minute.
1385
01:00:30.150 --> 01:00:30.610
Excuse me.
1386
01:00:30.750 --> 01:00:32.869
It was longer than a minute. It was at least
1387
01:00:32.909 --> 01:00:35.469
a minute and 15 seconds. It felt like eternity for me.
1388
01:00:35.510 --> 01:00:37.730
I'll tell you that. And I could tell she, she's
1389
01:00:37.769 --> 01:00:38.829
a lovely person.
1390
01:00:38.849 --> 01:00:38.929
Yeah.
1391
01:00:39.530 --> 01:00:42.090
But she was thinking of leaving. I could tell.
1392
01:00:42.389 --> 01:00:44.590
She handled it like a champ. I was more nervous
1393
01:00:44.630 --> 01:00:47.519
about your energy than I was about her energy, to
1394
01:00:47.539 --> 01:00:47.760
be honest.
1395
01:00:47.780 --> 01:00:49.940
This guy's never had a single hiccup for how long
1396
01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:51.079
has he been working here?
1397
01:00:51.099 --> 01:00:53.539
I know, but can I say something? Prince, anytime anyone
1398
01:00:53.559 --> 01:00:56.760
in his band hit one note that was a little
1399
01:00:56.780 --> 01:00:58.659
bit off, he would find them. He would find them.
1400
01:00:58.679 --> 01:00:59.599
He's a psychopath.
1401
01:01:00.340 --> 01:01:00.949
No, that's not the point.
1402
01:01:00.969 --> 01:01:02.829
Are you comparing yourself to Prince?
1403
01:01:03.050 --> 01:01:04.570
Yes. It's the same thing.
1404
01:01:04.590 --> 01:01:05.230
You do podcasting.
1405
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:06.320
What are you talking about?
1406
01:01:06.340 --> 01:01:09.340
I'm just saying you wouldn't know what's wrong because you don't.
1407
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:12.349
I hear the music just the way Prince did. And
1408
01:01:12.369 --> 01:01:14.849
I think in our each in our fields, I'm every
1409
01:01:15.190 --> 01:01:18.409
I am the prince of podcasting.
1410
01:01:19.329 --> 01:01:22.309
You're the prince. You're certainly a little prince.
1411
01:01:22.369 --> 01:01:27.380
I'll say that. And I'll tell you this. I just question.
1412
01:01:27.679 --> 01:01:30.340
Did you panic and force quit? Because there are other
1413
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:31.400
things you could have tried first.
1414
01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:31.880
Like what?
1415
01:01:32.420 --> 01:01:34.280
Yeah, I don't know. You could have gone to Altra.
1416
01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:36.380
You know, it's Ultra.
1417
01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:37.119
What's Ultra?
1418
01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:39.980
I'm not even fucking talking about Ultra. It's a parallel
1419
01:01:40.019 --> 01:01:42.739
system that you can use. You can access it. And
1420
01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:44.469
then you can go to Hibernate. If you had used
1421
01:01:44.489 --> 01:01:48.489
Ultra and you had gone to Hibernate, don't... Hey, Sona,
1422
01:01:48.590 --> 01:01:50.670
you're just laughing because you're embarrassed you don't know anything.
1423
01:01:51.769 --> 01:01:53.889
You could have knocked it all down like three generations.
1424
01:01:54.929 --> 01:01:55.699
What was I thinking?
1425
01:01:55.929 --> 01:01:57.900
And did you try compression? Compression?
1426
01:01:58.039 --> 01:01:58.699
Oh, yeah.
1427
01:01:58.860 --> 01:01:59.159
Oh, yeah.
1428
01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:02.360
Compression. Plenty of compression. Well, listen, next time look to
1429
01:02:02.420 --> 01:02:03.500
me and I can help you.
1430
01:02:03.659 --> 01:02:03.980
You got it.
1431
01:02:03.980 --> 01:02:04.139
Okay?
1432
01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:06.679
Yeah. Um, I do like the work that you're doing.
1433
01:02:06.739 --> 01:02:07.050
Thank you.
1434
01:02:07.260 --> 01:02:10.130
I'm very lucky to have you. Thank you. Uh, and
1435
01:02:10.190 --> 01:02:13.489
I'm very fortunate that, uh, you've done such a beautiful
1436
01:02:13.530 --> 01:02:16.230
job and this table, you, this is your baby.
1437
01:02:16.349 --> 01:02:17.610
This is one of my babies.
1438
01:02:17.650 --> 01:02:21.429
Yes. You put this table together and anytime one of
1439
01:02:21.590 --> 01:02:25.989
us it's happened. Sona's always bringing various soups from home
1440
01:02:26.050 --> 01:02:28.309
soups that your mother made. soups from the home.
1441
01:02:28.329 --> 01:02:29.610
She's never once brought soup.
1442
01:02:31.050 --> 01:02:32.690
You know when you come in with your soups from
1443
01:02:32.730 --> 01:02:35.769
the old country? Oh my God. Listen, and you spill.
1444
01:02:35.829 --> 01:02:36.610
How did it turn into this?
1445
01:02:36.630 --> 01:02:40.449
Have you noticed that when, just back me up on this. Admit,
1446
01:02:40.610 --> 01:02:41.829
first of all, you bring in a lot of soups
1447
01:02:41.849 --> 01:02:43.909
from the old country. Throw yourself under the bus. Just
1448
01:02:43.969 --> 01:02:46.329
admit it. It doesn't mean you bring soups from the
1449
01:02:46.429 --> 01:02:50.449
old country. But listen, it spills whenever a liquid spills
1450
01:02:51.070 --> 01:02:53.059
You freak. I do freak out. Because there's a lot
1451
01:02:53.099 --> 01:02:57.260
of very expensive electronics underneath this beautiful table. Under the hood, yes.
1452
01:02:57.380 --> 01:03:00.300
Under the hood. Did you know, when you were building
1453
01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:03.179
this table, did you know that, first of all, I
1454
01:03:03.199 --> 01:03:06.989
get clumsy sometimes with my drinks? Sona, of course, ubiquitous soups.
1455
01:03:08.309 --> 01:03:09.090
I had a feeling.
1456
01:03:09.309 --> 01:03:09.550
Yeah.
1457
01:03:09.829 --> 01:03:13.190
I tried to impose a rule that would prevent drinks,
1458
01:03:13.989 --> 01:03:15.550
but I was quickly outnumbered.
1459
01:03:15.949 --> 01:03:19.900
Well, I ingest a lot of fluids. to keep the
1460
01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:22.300
old pipes lubricated, so to speak.
1461
01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:25.510
You were the first one to spill all over this,
1462
01:03:25.699 --> 01:03:27.329
and it was like a full.
1463
01:03:27.150 --> 01:03:27.969
Glass of water.
1464
01:03:28.010 --> 01:03:30.670
Okay, I did spill a full glass of water. However,
1465
01:03:31.170 --> 01:03:33.369
how many times have you been in here with, and
1466
01:03:33.409 --> 01:03:36.969
she drinks it out of a stone bowl. And it's
1467
01:03:37.050 --> 01:03:43.409
some Armenian stew or potash, right? Am I wrong? And
1468
01:03:43.469 --> 01:03:46.739
you come in and you've got that big spoon. It's
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crazy big, like the Flintstones.
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You know what's funny is I'm thinking of khash, which
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would come with like a hoof.
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What?
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How many times? Oh, I said once she was having
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some of this khash. And I said, what you got there?
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And she said, you want some? She said, you want
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the hoof?
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What?
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You want the hoof?
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Remember? And I said, no, I don't want the hoof.
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I'm trying to share with you. That's all I'm trying
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to do.
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Well, anyway. Great staff review. So you're welcome. I finally
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got you to admit that you do bring tons of,
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you bring Hosh in, in a big stone bowl that's
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been frozen for years because it's from the old country. Gotcha, Sona. Years.
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Oh my God. Eduardo, thank you for all your work
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and you are impeccable.
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Thank you very much.
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My only question is how valuable could your job be
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if you can walk away from it completely And everything's fine.
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I built it. Oh, you built it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Okay. You're such a good surgeon that halfway through
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the surgery, you can walk away for a peer review. Yeah.
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You know what?
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I'm with you on this because he did plug in
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and plug out and plug in.
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That's what I would have done.
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Yeah.
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I could do what you do.
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Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and also, what do I do? I
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01:04:57.929 --> 01:04:59.929
guess I'll reboot the whole thing.
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