Lizzy Caplan Returns

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How was school, Pat?
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We were learning all about France and Joan of Arc
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and the Eiffel Tower and how they speak.
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Bonjour, Mama!
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Hi, my name is Lizzie Kaplan, and I feel... Nah,
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I've had better.
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About being Conan O'Brien's friend.
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Yes!
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Fall is here, hear the yell Back.
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To school, ring the bell Brand new shoes, walkin' loose
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Climb the fence, books.
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And pens I can tell that we are gonna be friends.
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Hey there, Conan O'Brien here. Welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs
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a Friend. Put a little pause there. Adam West style
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to add a little drama.
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Yeah, it was very.
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Welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend. Joined by Sonam Obsession. Hello.
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And of course, Matt Gourley.
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Hello.
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And guess what? This is a different little take on things.
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I've got some gum in my mouth right now.
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Oh, I hate that sound.
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I know, people don't like that. All right, I'm going
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to take it out. But anyway, I just thought it
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kind of made me look like a guy that doesn't,
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I don't know, I don't care that much about my work.
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I just do it. I'm just kind of an artist,
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you know?
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You just, you forgot it in there.
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Yeah, I forgot it was in there.
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And chewing gum implies all of that to you, that
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you don't care about your work, you're an artist, just because.
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You eat chewing gum?
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I don't know. I didn't put much thought into it.
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And then you asked for an explanation and the whole
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thing fell apart.
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Oh.
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Like wet cardboard. The gum is out of my mouth.
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For those of you, what is it called when you
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hate the chomping scent? Misophonia. Misophonia. I think I have it. Yeah,
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I've got misophonia.
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Oh, man.
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Sorry.
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Oh, God.
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I need to go.
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I just wanted him to walk right into it. I
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want to not be here anymore. No, I've been around
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people that have it. And you can't do anything. You
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can't have soup. You can't have peanut brittle around people
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that have misophonia.
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Yeah.
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What are you looking at me for? I'm just saying
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it's terrible.
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You're not a victim. Let's put it that way.
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I think I'm a victim in some ways.
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How so?
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Constant expectations of greatness.
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Oh, I don't think anybody expects that from you.
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Wherever I go, I'm burdened by middling expectations. No, it's
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terrible for people that have that. And it's tough to
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be around. What do you mean?
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Like, it's tough for you to bring around someone who
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has that?
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Yes. My daughter was constantly saying, I hate the way
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that it sounds when you consume the food that keeps
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you alive. And it's tough.
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But in her defense, you eat like an animal.
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Okay, let's get into this.
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I mean that in a nice way, but you.
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The way you eat.
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Describe it.
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Okay.
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You've got the floor.
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First of all, you're angry whenever you're eating. I don't
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know why. I don't know if you enjoy the food.
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And then you inhale it as if all of your
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siblings are just looming over you.
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They were.
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But nobody is anymore.
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I know, but it's the phantom leg syndrome. I'll tell
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you why I'm angry when I eat. Because I know
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that the food is sustaining my life, which is causing
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me pain.
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But why can't it make you happy?
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So you're mad at the food because it's keeping you alive.
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I'm mad at the food because it's keeping me alive
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so that all this continues. Oh, my God. Pretty dark, huh?
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Yeah.
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No, I will admit that I eat quickly.
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Mm-hmm.
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And I do, I'm getting better. I'm trying to chew
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the food and be thoughtful. He said lying.
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Okay, I figured.
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Yeah.
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Because I saw you eat not that long ago and
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it's the same.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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I didn't get any better?
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No, it's okay. It's okay to just.
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Well, Danny, your brother, does he eat quickly or no?
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He eats with the calm assurance that he was the oldest.
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He only had one sister and no one was going
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to take his food.
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Yeah, actually, he does.
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Your father was in the corner brushing his mustache. He
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wasn't going to take it.
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Okay, come on. Why does it all go back to
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Gil and his mustache?
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That's a good-looking mustache. There's no way that it just
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looks that way. He's combing it constantly.
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He's not combing his mustache constantly.
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Frisk him. I bet he has a tiny little comb.
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I'm not going to frisk my dad.
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Well, I'm going to have the police frisk Gil at
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the airport the next time he goes through. And I
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bet whenever he walks through the machine, he goes... Okay. No,
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not that. It's a metal comb? I know. What kind
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of comb is it?
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Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing.
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Yeah, it's metal. And they take it out, and it's
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this tiny little mustache comb. And then he has to
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explain to them that's why his mustache looks so good.
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This riffs waste of everyone's time. Gil, my apologies. I
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love you. You're a good man.
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You're apologizing.
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That's good. Well, I said it quickly. Let's not draw
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attention to it.
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Look, I'm on Nev's side.
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Yes. I think that... And she's made me very conscious
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of the way I eat food. And so she helped
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me that way.
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But there's a difference between inhaling food and are you
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doing the kind of open mouth, that's the thing that
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I have a misophonia for.
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I can't stand when.
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People- An open mouth chewer?
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Yeah.
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I don't think I'm an open mouth chewer.
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Someone very close in my life is an open mouth chewer.
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You talking about Jeff Ross? Jeff Ross is a chomp, chomp, smack,
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smack man. And I think we can all agree on that. Yeah,
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he's chomp, chomp, smack, smack.
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Yeah.
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Okay, yeah. He'll be talking to me and be like,
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I'm glad. So anyway- And I'm like, what are you eating?
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And sometimes it's something that doesn't even need chewing, like
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a melting... What do you have there, Jeff? A melted popsicle?
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What are you chewing for? It's two days old. It
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was in the back of my car in the sun.
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So it's liquid. That's right. Anyway, I think we're going
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to go out to the East Coast. We'll be there
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for the SNL thing. There's nothing in your mouth right now. Yeah,
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he's an open mouth chewer.
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Yeah.
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But he'll hear this. Does he listen to the podcast?
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I don't think he does. Yeah, here and there.
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Hmm.
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But this is my way of talking to him now,
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is through the podcast.
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Podcastively aggressively.
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You know what? This is a great, I'm very passive aggressive,
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and this is a great way to talk to people
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who I know and love in my life and tell
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them how I really feel.
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That's not bad.
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I'm going to talk to the person who does the
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lip smacking.
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Who is it?
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I can't say.
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Why?
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Who?
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Oh, wait, we're on camera.
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Who?
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Say.
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Oh.
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Oh.
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Why are you doing all this miming on camera? Anyone
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can look up.
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This is going to backfire.
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You edit it.
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You can easily edit out the- I don't edit the video.
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Wait, you haven't told her? You haven't told her?
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No, I've told her, but it's gotten to the point
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where I can't say it anymore.
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Well, then this is the perfect way that she listened
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to the podcast.
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Wait, I'm not even saying this is a sheet.
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No, I mean, you could have married anyone.
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It's legal.
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Oh, no.
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Yay.
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He's bounding down, rolling out. Oh, I'm sorry, man.
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I love this person more than life itself.
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Yep. No.
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And I have faults, too. Of course you do. And
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so I'm probably greater faults. I'm sure I have greater faults.
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Yeah.
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It's been discussed, and it's been noted, and it's been
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put into the record, and there's nothing more I can
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do about it.
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Oh, my God.
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How about the two of you, you and this person
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that Matt's talking about, eat.
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You have a time limit. minimum to eat a meal.
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And this person, what are we talking about?
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I don't know. I left.
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It as I put like a decibel meter on that
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person to make sure they don't pass a certain volume.
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There you go.
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We'll fix the problem. It's not the level of volume.
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It's almost worse that it's slightly quiet. Cause then you
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start like, I start straining to hear it. It's, it's
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much my fault.
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It's a dynamic.
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Yeah.
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And I think it's fair to say that in all relationships,
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especially the one you're talking about, which is a marriage.
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No, this is my clergyman.
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Okay. Yes, that's right. Pastor Samuelson.
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You eat a lot of meals with him?
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Yeah.
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They always get together for beans.
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Yes, I take my dinners with my clergyman out in
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the cloister.
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You have oysters in the cloister.
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Me so horny.
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Listen, you got to admit, that was the natural. It
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was a home run. The lights exploded. Eduardo watched me
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trot in slow motion around the field with Robert Redford's body.
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Can we please just actually give you a sandwich and
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say you can't finish this in less than 10 minutes?
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That would be hard. That would be difficult.
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I have the same issue.
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I eat quickly, as do most people that grew up
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in a prison or penitentiary. Okay. You know what? I
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put my arms around my food to protect it from
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my brother, Neil, who used one of those supermarket grabbers
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to reach over and get my food. He was ingenious.
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I didn't have this oppressive sibling thing. I think for me,
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it was just, let's get this over with so I
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can do fun things and live life.
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Food wasn't that exciting.
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Watch Star Wars again.
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Okay. Live life. You happen to be right. Yeah. Yes,
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you're correct.
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So I can organize my figurines.
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But take it easy. Boba Fett goes in front.
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Yeah, I don't see a problem with this.
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Mandalorian goes second.
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You're making my point for me.
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R2-D2-3rd.
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Well said.
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Sabart Ropabeep goes fourth.
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That one's not real.
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It could be. There's a new installment.
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So you guys understand.
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Disney keeps cranking them out because they can't stop. They
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don't have other content.
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I got a lot of editing to do on this one.
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Zar Darth Bixnax goes fifth. He's from the planet Arxnax, Max.
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Now you're getting personal. All right.
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Well, anyway. Yes. Live life to its. You are Zorba
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the Greek, man. Just living life to its fullest. Mmm,
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this small thimble full of iced tea, decaffeinated, and then
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off to organize my figurines!
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Oh, you're one to talk, asshole.
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Darth Billmore! Jazz Pixie!
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The Theodore Roosevelt, 14 volumes, gotta be read by noon.
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It's called Knowledge of History.
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The Nerd Off.
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Oh, please, I think when I read history, I'm educating
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myself about the history of our nation, maybe with an
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eye towards how we should move forward.
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Hmm.
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What you're doing is living in a fantasy world of
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Gax Bixnor, Chaz Bilney, Rax Haxeldax, Zorth Bithri, and.
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That's one character.
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Oh, my God.
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All right, my guest today.
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Oh, God.
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There's no transitions in this universe. They were done away
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by the Empire. Destroy all transitions.
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Excuse me?
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Excuse me. That was a guy... Who's that?
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Darth Vader?
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No, someone with emphysema.
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Okay.
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That makes sense.
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My guest today... How do we know Darth Vader didn't
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have emphysema and there was no device assisting him? My
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guest today has... My guest today is a... I have some... No, no, no.
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I have some thinking I have to do. My guest today... Yes, indeed.
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I have to go home and reconsider some things.
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You need to go look in the mirror for a
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long time, buddy boy.
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I can't believe you're telling me this.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And I'm taking it from you. I take it from you.
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No, not guest yet.
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I got it.
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I got it.
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Oh, no!
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You, of all people.
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And you yourself are always admitting you're just projecting.
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Yeah.
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Why don't you go screw your dick wish?
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Dick wish?
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This is what you held up our guest for? I
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hope you're proud of yourself. You sure showed me. I
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don't know how I'm going to recover from that lethal blow.
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My guest today.
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All right, I'll allow it.
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You know what? This is... I love this person. What's happening, son?
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Are you okay? I'm dying. I'm dying.
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I'm actually dying.
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My guest today... Of course, she's a very talented actress.
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You know her from such films, TV shows as Mean Girls,
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Party Down. She's one of my favorite people. You know that. Yeah,
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you can see her in the Netflix series Zero Day.
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She's so crazily talented. I also happen to know that
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she's an amazing person in every way you would want
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someone to be an amazing person. I'm excited. I'm thrilled
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she's here today. Lizzie Kaplan, welcome. Well, as you're well aware,
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I've got a bad case of Lizzie Kaplan. She's one
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of my favorite people. Of all time, your work and
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also just you as a person, I'm just going to
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start off saying it. We've hung out a little bit
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on the side, and I just always leave thinking, Jesus Christ,
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that Lizzie Kaplan. Is there anyone cooler than this woman?
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I have not met her.
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Damn.
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Damn. Seriously. Seriously. I absolutely adore you. Thanks, Conan. And
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I know you're going through some stuff right now. And
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I know your father just passed, which is bizarre because
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I just went through this with my parents in December.
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Both of them went at the same time, like it
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was a suicide pact, which it was not. But it
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just sounded suspicious in the press. Yeah. My dad went,
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and then my mom went two days later, and it
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just sounds like, okay, this is a murder, you know?
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But it wasn't. Pillow. Yeah, exactly.
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Her mom.
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Yeah, exactly. But no, so we were chatting a little
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bit out in the hall, and I said, we don't
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need to talk about this, but it might be good
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to talk about because I just went through it. It's
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so fresh in my mind, the different weird feelings that
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you feel, so- If it helps you at all, we
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can talk about it and then I'll charge you $ 350.
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Cool.
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Great.
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Because that's the going rate.
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It's actually a bargain at this point. Yeah, so I, like,
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popped my Prozac right before.
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I did recognize that pill.
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Yeah.
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Big fan, by the way.
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Oh, man. Hey, keep that Prozac coming. Yeah. You guys
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are doing amazing work. We have a bowl of it here.
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Yeah, right?
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The Coca-Cola, the original.
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Interestingly, I don't know if you remember this, but I
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met your dad. I do remember that. And I had
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a very long chat with your father. It was at
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a party. I believe here in Los Angeles. And you
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came in afterwards and said, what were you doing? And
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I said, oh, me and your dad were just talking.
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And we talked for a really long time. And you
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looked aghast. Like, oh, my God, what did he do?
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What did my father say? But I remember him very fondly.
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That's really nice. Thanks, Conan.
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Yeah, he was a very funny man, very strange man.
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It's Wild.
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It's wild.
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The whole thing.
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And I actually kind of wish I brought him around
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to more parties and more things because people had good
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experiences with him.
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But yeah, it's weird.
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My mom died when.
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I was 13. So I feel as you do, but
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it's very fresh for you. Like, you feel like an orphan,
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even though you're old and young.
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Not you. You're very young.
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Speaking for myself. I know what you're saying because Sona
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came when my parents passed. Sona and a couple of
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the other people, not you, Eduardo, came out because you
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had better things to do.
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No, right.
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There was a big game that night. No, it was
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in Boston and I didn't expect anyone to come. And
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so some of the people who I work with flew
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to Boston to be there, which meant which was very nice.
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It was so funny because I just wanted to make
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Sona laugh. And so Sona came up to me at
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some point. And remember, I was just going like, I'm
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an orphan. But playing it up for sympathy when I'm
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a 61-year-old white guy.
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Yeah.
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A lot of little orphan Annie gifs in their text messages.
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But it's just absurd. I kept saying like, I don't
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know where I'm going to sleep tonight. Yeah, you're going
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to sleep at the Four Seasons Hotel, you fucker. I
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did feel the same kind of thing, which was just, oh,
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I guess I'm an orphan, but I don't get to
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walk around with a big 1920s cap.
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Well.
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See, this is why I love Lizzie. She's giving me permission.
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Don't limit yourself.
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Not now. You two of you should hop a boxcar.
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We should.
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As orphans.
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We should walk along together. Two scruffy orphans.
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Two scruffy orphans in the poor season.
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It's like, wait a minute. That looks like Lizzie Kaplan
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and Conan O'Brien. There's an SUV following them. Like 15
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feet behind in case they need anything. So anyway.
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But yes, I do. I mean, I don't.
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I couldn't even begin to wrap my. head around your
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version of it, which is, like, the one-two punch. But
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I do think there's something, which you will never know,
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but there's something really kind about it happening that way,
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that you didn't have to have, like, the five years
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of looking after your mom without your dad, and that
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would have been brutal. That's a good chapter that nobody
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really needs. But, yeah, I just kept thinking, like, so
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my mom died.
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It was awful, obviously.
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Yeah.
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You were 13, which is crazy. Everyone thinks, oh, it'd
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be the worst if you were two or three. And
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I've read some about this and it's no, if you're,
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it's apparently the worst time is if you're a teenager,
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that's when it can impact you the most.
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Can confirm. It was horrible.
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And then like every funeral after that never felt as bad,
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you know, like a grandparent would die or it just never,
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it never hit as hard, obviously. And then my dad,
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I just assumed he was 80. He was not well.
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It wasn't that surprising, even though it kind of was
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in the moment. But I was so, so, so fucked
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up over.
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It, obviously.
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But I realized it doesn't even matter if you're 13.
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It's your parent. Your parents loom so large, whatever your
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relationship is.
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And we had a good relationship.
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But even if you're not speaking to your parent, if
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they die, it's coming for you, Conan.
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Yes.
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It's going to get you bad. Probably after the Oscars.
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I don't feel things. I think we have to get
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through the Soul Train Awards. And then... We had Werner,
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the great Werner Herzog was here. He's helping us out
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with something in a really lovely way. But he was
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here and he's always been very nice to me. And
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he said he had heard the news and he said, Conan,
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you only have. And he said in that Werner Herzog voice,
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one mother and one father. I don't know why that's
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coming out Irish. What the fuck happened? How did he
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do it? Someone help me out here. I've got to
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access him.
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One mother and one father.
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That's pretty good. That's it. There you go. Thank you.
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I don't know why I went to the leprechaun.
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One mother and one father. Don't fuck it up.
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But you still got lucky charms. No, he's like, you
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have one mother, one father. And I just was, I
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was like, this is not helping.
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Coming from him.
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Coming from him. And he said, and there is no afterlife.
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They've descended into a void of meaningless madness and chaos. Thanks, Werner.
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Can I say something very quickly? He was here and
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obviously we all love him. And Maddie always sets out
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a basket of snacks and stuff. And so he was,
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standing talking to you and some other people. And before
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he left, he's like, and.
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Now it is time for me to leave. But first,
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a little treat. And he went over.
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And grabbed like a little thing and.
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Took it with him. It was amazing.
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He narrates his regular life like that?
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But first a little treat. And then I will descend
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again into chaos and madness. Anyway, yeah, it is, you're
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still going through it. And then what's strange is the
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expectation other people have for you, which is you just,
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you feel what you feel. And I'm, I don't know
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if it's an Irish quality or what, but I just
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sort of get through things. And so I've had people
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that have said, you just must be devastated. And I think,
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I don't know. I don't know what I'm feeling. I
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00:20:21.019 --> 00:20:22.759
know that I've And then I noticed that I had
510
00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:25.819
put my watch on upside down and backwards. You're trying
511
00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:28.359
to reverse time. Yeah, exactly. I don't know what I
512
00:20:28.380 --> 00:20:30.359
was doing, but like my belt was on wrong. I
513
00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:32.920
was telling everyone, oh, no, no, these things, well, they
514
00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:35.269
lived a long life and I think they enjoyed themselves
515
00:20:35.349 --> 00:20:37.470
and all was well. And they went peacefully and quietly
516
00:20:37.509 --> 00:20:39.390
and people would say, you just put your pants on
517
00:20:39.470 --> 00:20:44.440
over your head. And poured gravy into the bathtub. What
518
00:20:44.460 --> 00:20:46.180
are you doing?
519
00:20:46.500 --> 00:20:47.259
Yeah, I don't know.
520
00:20:47.339 --> 00:20:50.099
I don't I I guess it's like it's impossible for
521
00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:53.230
me not to just be making constant comparisons to when
522
00:20:53.250 --> 00:20:54.289
my mom passed away.
523
00:20:54.450 --> 00:20:58.029
And I had no skills, no tools, no.
524
00:20:58.049 --> 00:21:00.990
I mean, I had support, but like 13 year old
525
00:21:01.069 --> 00:21:05.779
friends support, which is not amazing for that situation, like.
526
00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:07.279
As hard as they all tried.
527
00:21:07.710 --> 00:21:10.809
I just it was there were so many years of
528
00:21:10.849 --> 00:21:13.789
it just being so, so, so hard. And now I
529
00:21:13.829 --> 00:21:16.869
realize like, oh, I do actually have support and a
530
00:21:16.890 --> 00:21:18.769
therapist and Prozac.
531
00:21:19.190 --> 00:21:22.880
And, you know, like a great like I will be OK.
532
00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:25.420
I ended up being OK the last time against the
533
00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:28.819
odds because that was crazy. I just like I definitely
534
00:21:28.859 --> 00:21:31.759
I'm processing it in a much healthier way. I'm letting
535
00:21:31.779 --> 00:21:35.319
myself be sad, but that's not. that was not easy
536
00:21:35.339 --> 00:21:36.700
for me to do as a kid. As a kid,
537
00:21:36.740 --> 00:21:38.319
it was just like exactly what you're saying.
538
00:21:38.339 --> 00:21:40.720
Like keeping it moving, armor, armor, armor.
539
00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:45.180
And now it's better. It's better for it to happen
540
00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:46.880
now and in this way.
541
00:21:46.940 --> 00:21:49.839
But like, it's fucking crazy. It's just crazy.
542
00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:52.789
I'm so, I guess I'm just so sad about it,
543
00:21:52.789 --> 00:21:54.130
which feels healthy.
544
00:21:54.329 --> 00:21:57.190
I'll take that over angry and confused.
545
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Right.
546
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Yeah.
547
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Right.
548
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That's a gift to be able to feel sad. Yeah.
549
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Let me tell you.
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Yeah.
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You should try it.
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Lizzie, you've described yourself... And I can see it that
586
00:23:55.670 --> 00:23:58.750
you were a tough kid. Was that before your mom passed?
587
00:23:59.170 --> 00:24:01.539
Is that your nature? Or was it because your mom
588
00:24:01.579 --> 00:24:03.619
passed at such an early age that you were a
589
00:24:03.660 --> 00:24:05.480
tough kid? And how were you a tough kid?
590
00:24:06.160 --> 00:24:08.660
It may have been in there somewhere, but no, it
591
00:24:09.319 --> 00:24:13.920
was after my mom. I look at 13-year-old kids now,
592
00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:17.900
and they look like tiny babies. I just remember, my
593
00:24:17.940 --> 00:24:20.519
dad sent me to a therapist once. It was a
594
00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:23.490
group therapist, and it was... a bunch of other kids
595
00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:26.380
who had lost a parent and you had to like
596
00:24:26.460 --> 00:24:29.140
hold a talking stick to talk about that. And I
597
00:24:29.220 --> 00:24:30.740
went to it once and I was like, this is bullshit.
598
00:24:30.779 --> 00:24:31.109
I hate it.
599
00:24:31.140 --> 00:24:31.480
I'm fine.
600
00:24:31.660 --> 00:24:35.079
And I guess convince them, my dad and my aunts
601
00:24:35.140 --> 00:24:36.400
or whatever, like, I don't need to do this.
602
00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:36.799
I'm okay.
603
00:24:37.019 --> 00:24:39.710
And they believed me. And then they like never sent
604
00:24:39.730 --> 00:24:43.369
me back to anything like that or worried about me again.
605
00:24:43.390 --> 00:24:45.309
I don't know how anybody was.
606
00:24:45.250 --> 00:24:48.829
Like convinced by a 13 year old saying that she's
607
00:24:48.869 --> 00:24:51.450
fine when this happens, but I think nobody else was
608
00:24:51.490 --> 00:24:53.480
fine in my family. So everybody was just kind of
609
00:24:53.700 --> 00:24:54.460
picking up the pieces.
610
00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:59.130
So you were not a great target for, say, bullies. Like,
611
00:24:59.170 --> 00:25:00.769
you would have chewed them up and spit them out.
612
00:25:00.910 --> 00:25:02.589
Or were you the bully? I mean, I.
613
00:25:04.230 --> 00:25:06.349
Don't think I was the bully. Is that what bullies say?
614
00:25:06.369 --> 00:25:09.839
Well, we actually have some friends here. Come on in, guys.
615
00:25:09.859 --> 00:25:11.940
Stephanie from Second.
616
00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:17.880
No, I wasn't a bully. I've had the same friends
617
00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:18.940
since then.
618
00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:21.410
Since before then, and they're still my closest friends now.
619
00:25:21.420 --> 00:25:22.420
I always think that's a great sign.
620
00:25:22.619 --> 00:25:24.160
And my dad was like that, too, and my mom.
621
00:25:24.539 --> 00:25:25.200
That was a big.
622
00:25:25.630 --> 00:25:27.869
thing in our family without it being like a lesson
623
00:25:27.890 --> 00:25:29.509
that was explicitly taught.
624
00:25:29.549 --> 00:25:30.730
Like you just keep your friends.
625
00:25:31.009 --> 00:25:33.779
But yeah, nobody like fucked with me. I guess I
626
00:25:33.819 --> 00:25:37.740
was tough. I was angry, but I thought it was,
627
00:25:38.259 --> 00:25:40.940
that was a toughness thing. And I tried to be
628
00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:45.079
funny and it was just like this. Oh, I remember
629
00:25:45.420 --> 00:25:49.750
when I was 13, like the height of humor was
630
00:25:50.269 --> 00:25:53.369
the retort, your mom was So.
631
00:25:54.789 --> 00:25:59.660
I just remember, like, say something. Somebody would say, your mom.
632
00:26:01.579 --> 00:26:03.940
And just like immediately the look on their face, like, oh, God,
633
00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:05.160
I said, oh, God.
634
00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:07.519
And so I would just go to like trying to
635
00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:11.329
make everybody else feel less uncomfortable. And I lived in
636
00:26:11.369 --> 00:26:15.329
that way of being for a really long time. And
637
00:26:15.390 --> 00:26:18.539
now I don't care if people are uncomfortable, which feels
638
00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:21.000
like a win. But I didn't have that as.
639
00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:22.059
A kid at all.
640
00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:22.480
Yeah.
641
00:26:22.819 --> 00:26:26.000
That's a great superpower to care less about what other
642
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:26.859
people think. Yeah.
643
00:26:27.059 --> 00:26:29.519
It's like, that's just like age, honestly.
644
00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:32.900
I think age helps. And I know you and I
645
00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:36.869
are similar in this way. I have a social media presence,
646
00:26:37.420 --> 00:26:40.809
but I am not on social media. Yeah. Meaning, you know,
647
00:26:40.970 --> 00:26:47.319
through Team Coco and all of our different... Uh, subsidiary enterprises. Um,
648
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:50.890
we will post things and, and if something's going to
649
00:26:50.930 --> 00:26:53.490
go out under my name, I will craft it or
650
00:26:53.509 --> 00:26:56.730
approve it. But the last thing I would ever do
651
00:26:56.769 --> 00:27:00.539
in the world is type my name into the web
652
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:03.809
and see what people are thinking. or just live in
653
00:27:03.849 --> 00:27:08.369
that world because I think it is pure madness, I think.
654
00:27:09.109 --> 00:27:11.430
And as our friend Werner would say, chaos.
655
00:27:11.630 --> 00:27:12.390
Chaos and darkness.
656
00:27:12.490 --> 00:27:15.650
And darkness. Yeah. It's so damaging. It's horrible.
657
00:27:15.890 --> 00:27:20.250
And I'm sure that it's been an impediment to professional
658
00:27:20.609 --> 00:27:22.750
things for me, but I don't care.
659
00:27:22.769 --> 00:27:23.710
Why? Why would you say that?
660
00:27:23.730 --> 00:27:25.529
Because you think.
661
00:27:25.369 --> 00:27:27.339
You're supposed to like be every day saying this is
662
00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:31.269
This is the chia seed pudding that Lizzie had today.
663
00:27:31.289 --> 00:27:32.049
I can't do it.
664
00:27:32.390 --> 00:27:35.269
You're going to do it. We brought out some chia
665
00:27:35.289 --> 00:27:39.569
seed pudding. We're going to Instagram it right now.
666
00:27:39.930 --> 00:27:40.900
I don't know how to do it.
667
00:27:40.930 --> 00:27:43.349
I feel like a dinosaur for not doing it. I
668
00:27:43.390 --> 00:27:46.859
was like right on the cusp. Now, anybody younger than me,
669
00:27:46.910 --> 00:27:49.720
I think like it's mandatory. They tried to tell me
670
00:27:49.740 --> 00:27:51.980
it was mandatory to be on this stuff. And I
671
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:55.809
just fought it and really was like, this whole social
672
00:27:55.849 --> 00:27:57.390
media thing is really going to blow over.
673
00:27:57.690 --> 00:27:59.589
This internet, I don't think it's going to stick around.
674
00:27:59.990 --> 00:28:03.690
And now I do sometimes think like, oh, I probably
675
00:28:03.750 --> 00:28:06.609
should be playing that game a little bit more, but.
676
00:28:06.569 --> 00:28:10.960
I just can't do it. I hate it. It's embarrassing.
677
00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:13.579
The amount of times you have to like divorce your
678
00:28:13.660 --> 00:28:16.019
feelings about your friend who you know and love in
679
00:28:16.059 --> 00:28:19.940
person and then their social media persona. Then some people like,
680
00:28:19.980 --> 00:28:23.269
I just can't, I like can't reconcile those two things anymore.
681
00:28:23.829 --> 00:28:26.599
And it's like an illness. It's weird.
682
00:28:26.910 --> 00:28:31.200
The narcissism. It's made everything fucking worse. Like, let's be real.
683
00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:33.539
It's made everything worse. I'm hoping because our kids are
684
00:28:33.579 --> 00:28:34.720
the same age, I think.
685
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:35.059
Yeah.
686
00:28:35.339 --> 00:28:36.339
Like around three and a half.
687
00:28:36.380 --> 00:28:36.539
Yes.
688
00:28:36.619 --> 00:28:36.779
Yeah.
689
00:28:37.140 --> 00:28:42.079
I think I'm praying that it like isn't as omnipresent
690
00:28:42.220 --> 00:28:42.720
for that.
691
00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:43.480
But I don't know.
692
00:28:43.500 --> 00:28:44.039
I don't.
693
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:45.349
I really don't know. I see it.
694
00:28:45.369 --> 00:28:47.890
I'm staying with some friends now. I've known their daughter
695
00:28:47.990 --> 00:28:49.410
her whole life. She's amazing.
696
00:28:49.430 --> 00:28:51.119
She's 13. 13.
697
00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:53.480
She goes to a private school in Los Angeles. And
698
00:28:53.549 --> 00:28:55.809
it's like it is a fight to not give this
699
00:28:55.869 --> 00:28:57.329
girl a phone and access.
700
00:28:57.390 --> 00:28:59.529
That's a big question is when they get the phone.
701
00:28:59.569 --> 00:29:00.789
It was a big question for us.
702
00:29:00.849 --> 00:29:03.089
Yeah, because your kids are the age like this is
703
00:29:03.329 --> 00:29:06.390
the beta testing generation on this stuff. And now we
704
00:29:06.470 --> 00:29:09.609
see like, oh, it's bad. But as a parent, like
705
00:29:09.650 --> 00:29:11.509
I get why it's difficult. I get why you don't
706
00:29:11.549 --> 00:29:13.569
want to be the one being like, hey, you're you're
707
00:29:13.589 --> 00:29:15.549
going to be the one kid who doesn't have this.
708
00:29:15.569 --> 00:29:18.039
And that's going to make you weird and an outsider
709
00:29:18.130 --> 00:29:18.410
and whatever.
710
00:29:18.619 --> 00:29:19.920
But it's so bad.
711
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:21.539
It's so bad.
712
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:23.900
And then there are questions the other way, which is
713
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:26.119
it can be a safety thing at a certain age
714
00:29:26.180 --> 00:29:27.960
that if they have a phone, they can call you.
715
00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:30.660
And so it's a big debate. We wrestled with it
716
00:29:30.700 --> 00:29:32.710
a lot. What did you do? We had the phones
717
00:29:33.029 --> 00:29:36.809
implanted in utero. Oh, boy. So when my daughter was born,
718
00:29:36.829 --> 00:29:41.539
she came out with 700 likes. Wow. That's crazy. Strong presence. No,
719
00:29:42.299 --> 00:29:47.359
I remember us getting in. We did pretty well. Liza
720
00:29:47.380 --> 00:29:50.319
would know the exact age because I was probably looking
721
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:53.750
in a mirror and thinking about my career when this
722
00:29:53.809 --> 00:29:55.009
decision was finally made.
723
00:29:55.069 --> 00:29:56.369
Your social media, the mirror.
724
00:29:56.490 --> 00:29:57.869
My social media is the mirror.
725
00:29:57.890 --> 00:29:59.250
Look at that jawline.
726
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:02.200
If only those eyes were a little bigger and they
727
00:30:02.259 --> 00:30:05.599
popped on screen. Conan, I need help with the children. Quiet!
728
00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:08.480
That eye vein has held me back.
729
00:30:09.049 --> 00:30:10.140
Trolling yourself.
730
00:30:10.269 --> 00:30:11.549
Yeah, exactly.
731
00:30:11.690 --> 00:30:13.829
You're your biggest troll.
732
00:30:13.869 --> 00:30:18.089
You suck. It doesn't add up to me that you
733
00:30:18.130 --> 00:30:21.369
would feel you needed to do anything like that. I
734
00:30:21.430 --> 00:30:24.150
need to increase my social media presence or I have
735
00:30:24.170 --> 00:30:26.430
to do this or do that because you're so talented.
736
00:30:26.990 --> 00:30:30.589
And well, no, I'm saying I'm serious. You're so, you have, no,
737
00:30:30.609 --> 00:30:33.289
I'm serious. You have such, I don't see how, do
738
00:30:33.309 --> 00:30:35.190
you guys see what I'm saying? I don't see how
739
00:30:35.380 --> 00:30:38.940
anything you're doing is enhanced by and. This is how
740
00:30:38.980 --> 00:30:41.119
I make a Cobb salad. I don't think.
741
00:30:41.539 --> 00:30:43.440
I fundamentally agree with that.
742
00:30:43.660 --> 00:30:46.519
And I guess that's kind of like the main takeaway
743
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:48.839
is people aren't paying attention to you that much.
744
00:30:49.339 --> 00:30:51.779
So anybody, people are paying attention to you all the time.
745
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:53.240
No, no. I am.
746
00:30:53.259 --> 00:30:54.819
You know, I looked into it. I am the exception
747
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:56.579
to that rule. Yeah, you are. When people say no
748
00:30:56.619 --> 00:30:57.420
one's thinking about you.
749
00:30:57.559 --> 00:30:57.940
Except you.
750
00:30:57.980 --> 00:31:01.839
It's because they're thinking of Conan. But no, no.
751
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:02.839
Yeah, they're not.
752
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:04.380
And so like they think, you know, I look at
753
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.730
some of my friends who are or myself and I
754
00:31:07.890 --> 00:31:10.109
think like, oh, I should be. I wish I did
755
00:31:10.130 --> 00:31:12.089
this job or did like two more jobs during this
756
00:31:12.130 --> 00:31:15.210
period of time. And the reality is like people assume
757
00:31:15.230 --> 00:31:17.490
you're working. They assume you're busy.
758
00:31:17.789 --> 00:31:20.509
Nobody needs to know about like those fallow periods.
759
00:31:20.690 --> 00:31:23.069
And the reason why people are even thinking about it
760
00:31:23.150 --> 00:31:24.970
is because you're You feel the need to just like
761
00:31:25.269 --> 00:31:28.109
chime in with your opinions every single day or like
762
00:31:28.150 --> 00:31:29.250
what set you're on every day.
763
00:31:29.289 --> 00:31:29.849
I just don't.
764
00:31:30.490 --> 00:31:32.019
It's a real disconnect for me.
765
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:35.380
Like, why do we all have to like log our
766
00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:39.859
fucking opinions about everything all the time? Like, it's our job.
767
00:31:39.940 --> 00:31:42.500
And you see, you know, like on message boards or whatever.
768
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:46.460
Sometimes I'll look at the Daily Mail. Oh, God, the
769
00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:51.829
Daily Mail is so bleak. And the comments like it
770
00:31:51.849 --> 00:31:53.769
doesn't even matter. You know exactly what people are going
771
00:31:53.789 --> 00:31:56.390
to say, like they're going to judge this person on
772
00:31:56.430 --> 00:31:59.410
her appearance or her decision or something she did 10
773
00:31:59.410 --> 00:32:02.380
years ago. And it's it's like these people think that
774
00:32:02.410 --> 00:32:04.720
it's now part of it's their job now to sit
775
00:32:04.740 --> 00:32:06.759
down and like do their part of this equation, which
776
00:32:06.819 --> 00:32:08.700
is like log in their opinion about what a piece
777
00:32:08.740 --> 00:32:10.400
of shit this person is. And I just think, like,
778
00:32:10.460 --> 00:32:12.099
who are these people? I know we always think, like, OK,
779
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:15.269
they're in their mother's basements or whatever, but They're probably not.
780
00:32:15.369 --> 00:32:17.869
They're probably like living out in the world. And yet
781
00:32:17.930 --> 00:32:19.970
they take time out of every day to like sit
782
00:32:20.009 --> 00:32:23.349
down and let you know how they feel about Britney
783
00:32:23.410 --> 00:32:24.769
Spears is dancing.
784
00:32:24.849 --> 00:32:25.369
Like who?
785
00:32:25.569 --> 00:32:25.829
What?
786
00:32:26.250 --> 00:32:26.990
Why are you.
787
00:32:26.869 --> 00:32:27.809
Weighing in on this?
788
00:32:27.930 --> 00:32:30.369
And I mean, I actually I realize I'm sort of
789
00:32:30.410 --> 00:32:32.710
like talking in circles right now. I feel like I
790
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:34.420
have fairly insightful things to say about this.
791
00:32:34.660 --> 00:32:36.299
Not today. But I do.
792
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:39.960
I do think like, how can you not connect these
793
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:44.180
dots that like the lack of community, like people's quality
794
00:32:44.220 --> 00:32:46.200
of life, just being shittier.
795
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:48.140
Everybody's isolated.
796
00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:51.279
People are fully OK living in this kind of like
797
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:55.009
alternate reality where it's you're opinions and the more fiery
798
00:32:55.029 --> 00:32:55.930
your opinions are.
799
00:32:56.509 --> 00:32:58.890
The more people pay attention. Yeah, the more clicks.
800
00:32:59.170 --> 00:33:01.529
But like, it's just create, look at where we are.
801
00:33:01.849 --> 00:33:03.809
The world is like, look at where we are.
802
00:33:03.990 --> 00:33:04.410
It's Trump.
803
00:33:04.579 --> 00:33:05.059
What the fuck?
804
00:33:05.380 --> 00:33:08.119
Like, does Trump exist without any of this stuff? Like,
805
00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:11.839
I don't, I don't think so. And beyond that, we're just,
806
00:33:12.180 --> 00:33:16.519
people are sad. Kids are sad. Everybody feels isolated and
807
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:19.549
there's no, I think we're in a weird position too
808
00:33:19.589 --> 00:33:22.529
because yes, it is fully incorporated into our lives. We're, we're,
809
00:33:22.970 --> 00:33:25.849
young enough that like we had phones from a young
810
00:33:25.890 --> 00:33:28.460
enough age that it's like woven into the fabric of
811
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:31.420
our beings but we had childhoods that weren't and now
812
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:32.789
they don't have that.
813
00:33:33.069 --> 00:33:34.150
I don't know what that.
814
00:33:34.190 --> 00:33:37.049
Looks like in the future, other than more like really
815
00:33:37.089 --> 00:33:39.670
lazy Gen Z people who don't know what a good,
816
00:33:39.950 --> 00:33:42.690
a hard day's work looks like, which I find myself
817
00:33:42.710 --> 00:33:45.450
saying all the time.
818
00:33:45.470 --> 00:33:47.410
You just sprouted a bonnet. I know.
819
00:33:47.490 --> 00:33:51.420
I am like, so Tom, my husband really makes fun
820
00:33:51.460 --> 00:33:53.619
of me a lot because I am like a dinosaur
821
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:56.779
about this. And look, I get left behind in this scenario. Like,
822
00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:59.259
I don't think the internet's going to stop because it's
823
00:33:59.279 --> 00:33:59.900
making us sad.
824
00:34:00.309 --> 00:34:03.319
Well, I always go back to, you just have to,
825
00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:05.819
you know, I don't know if I'm quoting Jersey Shore here,
826
00:34:05.859 --> 00:34:08.110
but you do you. I'm sorry.
827
00:34:08.139 --> 00:34:09.969
No, that's Werner Herzog as well.
828
00:34:10.219 --> 00:34:14.920
This is different. You do you in the chaos of
829
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:16.039
the eternal void.
830
00:34:16.579 --> 00:34:17.619
Jim Tan Laundry.
831
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:19.679
Yeah. GTL.
832
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.480
In the Werner Herzog place.
833
00:34:22.500 --> 00:34:26.340
Werner Herzog was in one season. He was in one
834
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:29.079
season of Jersey Shore where he told them all that
835
00:34:29.099 --> 00:34:33.079
they were in a void. But Lizzie, I always go
836
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:36.519
back to Who are my people? It's like my wife,
837
00:34:36.579 --> 00:34:40.960
my kids, for you, you know, Tom, it's Alfie. And
838
00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:44.599
who are my friends? And then what is my work
839
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:47.280
that I do? I just always keep pulling myself back
840
00:34:47.340 --> 00:34:51.280
to that and saying, and then try to have empathy,
841
00:34:51.820 --> 00:34:54.219
which is working a muscle. You can't just say I
842
00:34:54.260 --> 00:34:56.170
have empathy. You just have to keep going at it.
843
00:34:56.260 --> 00:34:57.139
But that's hard to do.
844
00:34:57.380 --> 00:35:00.070
Like for your job, that's really hard to do. I mean,
845
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:04.090
talk shows are usually very mean and you're very nice.
846
00:35:04.860 --> 00:35:08.440
Um, see, that's how I, he's the nicest person.
847
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:11.460
Guys, guys, neither of you has the talking stick. He's
848
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:12.219
like Dolly Parton.
849
00:35:12.380 --> 00:35:13.159
We have microphones.
850
00:35:13.179 --> 00:35:14.699
Yeah, you put microphones.
851
00:35:14.460 --> 00:35:16.360
In front of our faces. We've got to do this
852
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:22.199
talking stick thing here. Um, I, I, I intuitively fight
853
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:25.340
against the bleakness, which gets harder and harder and harder
854
00:35:25.579 --> 00:35:28.000
with all the issues that come up. And, um, but
855
00:35:28.420 --> 00:35:31.280
if I didn't have kids, I would retreat into, well,
856
00:35:31.420 --> 00:35:36.250
my life went pretty well. And, um, You know, I exist.
857
00:35:36.389 --> 00:35:38.690
The earth does seem to be getting warmer, but I'll
858
00:35:38.710 --> 00:35:40.849
be gone before that's too much of a problem. I mean,
859
00:35:40.909 --> 00:35:43.590
I would have the capacity maybe to think that way.
860
00:35:43.610 --> 00:35:45.289
I would hope that I wouldn't, but I would have
861
00:35:45.329 --> 00:35:47.570
the capacity to. But when you have kids, as you know,
862
00:35:47.590 --> 00:35:50.170
you're invested in, oh, okay.
863
00:35:50.309 --> 00:35:50.929
The future.
864
00:35:50.969 --> 00:35:53.050
We need to figure out how to fix this.
865
00:35:53.210 --> 00:35:53.650
I know.
866
00:35:53.670 --> 00:35:54.070
Ugh.
867
00:35:54.510 --> 00:35:54.789
I know.
868
00:35:54.869 --> 00:35:57.449
They're like the greatest balm of all time and also-
869
00:35:57.590 --> 00:35:58.230
But also.
870
00:35:58.010 --> 00:36:00.239
Right now, going through what you're going through with the
871
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:03.670
loss of your dad, I found- And I know that
872
00:36:03.949 --> 00:36:10.110
Sona's been through so much lately, lost her home. But
873
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:12.539
I remember talking to you right after you lost your
874
00:36:12.579 --> 00:36:15.500
house in the fire and you were saying, like, I've
875
00:36:15.539 --> 00:36:19.079
got these Mikey and Charlie and they need me present.
876
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.760
They were kind of saving your ass because you can't
877
00:36:22.820 --> 00:36:26.050
say to them, mom is going to just be. depressed
878
00:36:26.110 --> 00:36:27.989
and weirded out for two years. I'll see you then.
879
00:36:28.010 --> 00:36:28.570
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
880
00:36:28.690 --> 00:36:30.130
I'm not going to be like, I'm in a bed
881
00:36:30.190 --> 00:36:33.800
just crying all day. So, you know, and then they're
882
00:36:33.860 --> 00:36:36.719
ready to continue on. And so you're ready to continue on.
883
00:36:36.780 --> 00:36:37.119
Absolutely.
884
00:36:37.139 --> 00:36:38.840
It's like the best medicine.
885
00:36:39.059 --> 00:36:41.380
It really is. And it like gets you out of it.
886
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:41.920
Totally.
887
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:43.000
They're like little prozacs.
888
00:36:43.019 --> 00:36:43.679
Yeah, they are.
889
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:48.440
Sweet, sweet prozacs. But yeah, it's amazing.
890
00:36:48.579 --> 00:36:51.199
Even if you're in a bad mood, like a normal
891
00:36:51.260 --> 00:36:53.710
bad mood, and you go in and see your kids like,
892
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:56.519
Unless you want to have them, you know, when they're
893
00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:59.710
talking to their therapist or writing their memoir later, be like,
894
00:37:00.130 --> 00:37:01.289
mother was sad.
895
00:37:01.030 --> 00:37:01.550
All the time.
896
00:37:02.010 --> 00:37:04.769
She took it all out on me. She would kick
897
00:37:04.809 --> 00:37:07.789
the dishwasher and then ignore me for two days. Like,
898
00:37:07.889 --> 00:37:09.150
we're not going to do that.
899
00:37:09.190 --> 00:37:09.250
No.
900
00:37:09.250 --> 00:37:13.489
We're like, not those people. My best friend lives in Alcedena.
901
00:37:13.989 --> 00:37:18.159
I'm so sorry. That's like unbelievable. And watching her, she
902
00:37:18.179 --> 00:37:21.539
has a six-year-old and their house did not burn down.
903
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:26.239
but they're totally displaced and they have to live in
904
00:37:26.380 --> 00:37:29.469
the back house of a friend from schools. And like,
905
00:37:29.570 --> 00:37:31.570
it's actually turning out to be kind of a great
906
00:37:31.630 --> 00:37:35.929
situation for now. But what if she didn't have this
907
00:37:35.989 --> 00:37:38.570
little girl to like get to school.
908
00:37:38.389 --> 00:37:41.619
And not be a husk of a human? Like, I
909
00:37:41.659 --> 00:37:42.639
don't I don't know.
910
00:37:42.900 --> 00:37:43.119
Yeah.
911
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:46.679
I realize now because I mean, I had my kid
912
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:48.949
kind of late, like How much time you just spend
913
00:37:48.989 --> 00:37:51.280
like wallowing your own shit and then you don't get
914
00:37:51.300 --> 00:37:53.300
to do that anymore and it like rips you out
915
00:37:53.340 --> 00:37:53.679
of it.
916
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:56.199
It's a wonderful thing. Is this the funniest?
917
00:37:58.030 --> 00:37:59.760
Episode of this podcast.
918
00:37:59.960 --> 00:38:01.960
Am I wrong that I love this episode?
919
00:38:02.059 --> 00:38:02.760
Yeah, me too.
920
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:06.119
I mean, Eduardo is the line, you're the line judge
921
00:38:06.179 --> 00:38:07.139
on these things, but.
922
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:08.219
This is right up my alley.
923
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:11.900
Yeah, no, because this is, you know, excuse us for
924
00:38:11.940 --> 00:38:15.119
having a conversation. Shuckles over here. I know.
925
00:38:15.139 --> 00:38:17.500
This is the life of the party these days.
926
00:38:17.570 --> 00:38:21.190
No, no, but what I'm, this is, I don't know,
927
00:38:21.250 --> 00:38:22.510
it's making me feel a lot better.
928
00:38:23.019 --> 00:38:25.119
Yeah, it is kind of therapeutic.
929
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:26.159
It's really therapeutic.
930
00:38:26.179 --> 00:38:28.179
I think everything feels very heavy right now.
931
00:38:28.300 --> 00:38:28.559
For sure.
932
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:30.780
Even if you're not going through something, things just feel
933
00:38:30.820 --> 00:38:33.309
really heavy. It's okay to talk about it.
934
00:38:34.269 --> 00:38:34.590
Agreed.
935
00:38:34.849 --> 00:38:36.110
I think you have to.
936
00:38:36.329 --> 00:38:39.130
And it is like absorbing the, because I'm from LA.
937
00:38:39.210 --> 00:38:43.860
I just moved. We sold our house in December and
938
00:38:44.139 --> 00:38:47.039
gave the keys to the new owners on January 24th.
939
00:38:48.130 --> 00:38:51.710
So, like, right after the fires. And we were supposed
940
00:38:51.730 --> 00:38:52.030
to come.
941
00:38:51.949 --> 00:38:53.849
Back and pack up the house that we've lived in
942
00:38:53.949 --> 00:38:57.670
for 11 years and say goodbye to the house and
943
00:38:57.710 --> 00:38:58.550
have all these people over.
944
00:38:58.570 --> 00:38:59.730
Where are you moving to?
945
00:38:59.809 --> 00:39:00.889
New York, baby.
946
00:39:00.909 --> 00:39:02.239
Okay, all right, all right.
947
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:04.019
Yeah, that just happened.
948
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:07.000
And, like, take Alfie to Disneyland and do all this shit,
949
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:10.460
and we couldn't come back because of the fires. And
950
00:39:11.099 --> 00:39:15.139
being in New York and watching it, I have, this
951
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:18.059
is my hometown, but I have, like, Talked so much
952
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:20.730
shit about LA and what it means and how it's
953
00:39:20.789 --> 00:39:23.929
changed and how it's gotten worse. You're sensing a theme
954
00:39:23.969 --> 00:39:28.010
in my overall personality. Do you have more Prozac?
955
00:39:28.570 --> 00:39:28.949
No, right?
956
00:39:28.989 --> 00:39:29.710
I got to up it to.
957
00:39:30.210 --> 00:39:31.320
up it to 20 milligrams.
958
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:35.280
Also, Prozac is new and we'll recommend, really.
959
00:39:36.539 --> 00:39:37.880
We can do an ad for them.
960
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:41.480
I mean, I'm obviously loud and proud about it. Maybe
961
00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:42.360
I'll regret this part of it.
962
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:42.860
No, no.
963
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:47.679
But yeah, so watching it from afar... was really strange.
964
00:39:47.929 --> 00:39:51.590
And seeing like my hometown go through this, I felt
965
00:39:51.630 --> 00:39:55.489
like this groundswell of love for LA, which hasn't gone away.
966
00:39:55.929 --> 00:39:59.130
I think this city is amazing. I think Altadena specifically
967
00:39:59.309 --> 00:40:01.469
is amazing. Like what they're doing.
968
00:40:01.900 --> 00:40:03.679
And that was like the LA, I didn't grow up
969
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:06.420
in Altadena, but I grew up like in the Miracle Mile.
970
00:40:06.460 --> 00:40:07.619
And it was much more.
971
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:10.039
That vibe than let's say the Palisades vibe, which is
972
00:40:10.099 --> 00:40:13.969
its own unimaginable, like, I don't even know, tragedy. But
973
00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:17.019
There's something about like the Angelenos who are from here,
974
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:19.880
who aren't in the business, who just like have regular jobs,
975
00:40:20.019 --> 00:40:22.639
regular families, and like you're just doing it in L.A.
976
00:40:22.699 --> 00:40:25.719
Like that was my upbringing. And I have so much
977
00:40:25.820 --> 00:40:26.960
love for this city.
978
00:40:27.219 --> 00:40:28.519
And it was really.
979
00:40:28.659 --> 00:40:32.389
Horrible to be away because all of us like in
980
00:40:32.409 --> 00:40:34.630
New York who are from L.A. kind of huddled together
981
00:40:34.650 --> 00:40:37.050
because you'd go into, you know, when it was like
982
00:40:37.250 --> 00:40:39.550
actively happening or just kind of starting things.
983
00:40:40.019 --> 00:40:41.599
I went to get my hair cut. The guy's like,
984
00:40:41.619 --> 00:40:44.039
how you doing? I'm like, well, not great.
985
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:45.280
LA's on fire.
986
00:40:45.300 --> 00:40:46.380
He's like, oh, yeah.
987
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:48.900
When you're not from LA, when you don't live there,
988
00:40:49.340 --> 00:40:51.840
it's just like LA has fires. It's just like another
989
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:55.679
thing that's happening somewhere else. And when it's your.
990
00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:57.469
Home, it's crazy.
991
00:40:57.530 --> 00:41:01.250
And so my dad, obviously, passing away was brutal. And
992
00:41:01.269 --> 00:41:04.429
then I've stuck around for these couple weeks and feeling
993
00:41:04.550 --> 00:41:08.389
the sadness of LA has been really intense. But also-
994
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:10.619
everyone in New York's like, it reminds us of 9-11.
995
00:41:10.699 --> 00:41:13.599
Like people are really coming together and building each other up.
996
00:41:13.619 --> 00:41:16.000
And like the community, that was the main.
997
00:41:15.820 --> 00:41:17.780
Kind of complaint I had about LA. Like there's no
998
00:41:17.820 --> 00:41:19.820
community and there so is.
999
00:41:20.090 --> 00:41:20.789
And I feel like an.
1000
00:41:20.809 --> 00:41:21.829
Asshole for saying that.
1001
00:41:22.030 --> 00:41:27.050
I lived in New York when, during 9-11 and one
1002
00:41:27.070 --> 00:41:30.869
of my clearest memories is going out to dinner and
1003
00:41:32.730 --> 00:41:35.320
the waitress would come over, the wait person would come
1004
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:38.920
over and say, you know, would you guys like to
1005
00:41:38.940 --> 00:41:41.219
start off with some drinks or, you know, and we'd say, well,
1006
00:41:41.260 --> 00:41:43.380
how are you? And then the person would end up
1007
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:45.219
sitting down at the table and we would all chat.
1008
00:41:45.260 --> 00:41:49.260
And I remember thinking, this is this weird, um, Eden
1009
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:53.010
that we're all living in where all the old societal
1010
00:41:53.110 --> 00:41:55.010
norms have gone out the window and people were really
1011
00:41:55.050 --> 00:41:58.489
talking to each other. And if the bartender, you ask
1012
00:41:58.510 --> 00:42:01.510
the bartender, you ask whoever's, uh, you ask the person
1013
00:42:01.530 --> 00:42:04.809
in the store, how are you, uh, where do you live?
1014
00:42:05.130 --> 00:42:08.510
How are you doing? And that happened in New York City.
1015
00:42:08.610 --> 00:42:14.139
And then I remembered it going away. Humanity just has
1016
00:42:14.179 --> 00:42:16.579
this way of, if you hit a human being over
1017
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:19.380
the head with a big stick, he behaves himself for
1018
00:42:19.420 --> 00:42:22.300
like six hours and then goes back to being whatever
1019
00:42:22.340 --> 00:42:26.059
he was before. And I know that this too shall pass,
1020
00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:29.760
but it's lovely while it's happening. And I'm noticing, I
1021
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:34.320
just keep having these great conversations with, I think I
1022
00:42:34.340 --> 00:42:36.909
mentioned this, but there was- had to go to Sundance
1023
00:42:36.949 --> 00:42:39.610
for something. And there was a woman who was driving
1024
00:42:39.630 --> 00:42:44.360
me to the event in Utah from Salt Lake to
1025
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:48.119
Sundance and started chatting with her. And it turned out
1026
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:49.880
she lived in LA. And I said, well, how's your place?
1027
00:42:49.900 --> 00:42:51.980
She said, well, my place burned to the ground and
1028
00:42:52.019 --> 00:42:56.320
she's driving me. And we just had this intense conversation.
1029
00:42:56.340 --> 00:42:58.769
And I thought, well, this is Kind of what it's
1030
00:42:58.789 --> 00:43:01.090
supposed to be all the time. Exactly. Which is, how
1031
00:43:01.150 --> 00:43:04.210
are you? What's going on in your life? Not, drive me, driver!
1032
00:43:04.769 --> 00:43:09.070
Where are the Tic Tacs? Which is what I reverted
1033
00:43:09.090 --> 00:43:10.090
to by the end of the drive.
1034
00:43:10.349 --> 00:43:11.340
Oh, you got back there.
1035
00:43:11.449 --> 00:43:12.590
Enough of your whining.
1036
00:43:13.059 --> 00:43:14.139
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1037
00:43:14.219 --> 00:43:15.719
Oh, your house. Where are my Tic Tacs?
1038
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:17.659
Yeah, he's a spearmint.
1039
00:43:18.739 --> 00:43:20.280
I wanted the fruity kind.
1040
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:22.409
Sorry they burned in the fire, sir.
1041
00:43:22.650 --> 00:43:23.610
That's no excuse.
1042
00:43:23.710 --> 00:43:24.329
Oh, my God.
1043
00:43:24.489 --> 00:43:28.989
A burnt Tic Tac's the best one. Yeah, so it's
1044
00:43:29.449 --> 00:43:33.340
just perspective and empathy and all that kind of stuff
1045
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:36.599
isn't something you attain. It is a practice, and it
1046
00:43:36.659 --> 00:43:40.480
goes away, and we all find ourselves drifting away from it,
1047
00:43:40.539 --> 00:43:43.050
and then something happens, and we get pulled back into it.
1048
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:44.280
Yeah, I wonder. I mean, I.
1049
00:43:44.969 --> 00:43:47.829
Have you felt, because I'm nervous about that, just like
1050
00:43:47.869 --> 00:43:49.610
how everybody was like showing up and.
1051
00:43:50.050 --> 00:43:52.239
Flooding the GoFundMes or whatever.
1052
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.579
And like you're saying, like everything, people move on to
1053
00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:57.380
the next thing eventually. This is going to be a
1054
00:43:57.579 --> 00:43:58.820
long recovery.
1055
00:43:59.039 --> 00:43:59.239
Yeah.
1056
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:02.260
Do you feel that it's still as intense?
1057
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:02.980
No.
1058
00:44:03.219 --> 00:44:03.360
No.
1059
00:44:03.639 --> 00:44:04.300
No, I don't.
1060
00:44:04.420 --> 00:44:06.800
I mean, I even asked. if I would still get
1061
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:09.619
a discount somewhere. And they're like, oh, we stopped doing
1062
00:44:09.659 --> 00:44:10.460
that a week ago.
1063
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:13.670
That was really the sign because when it first happened,
1064
00:44:13.710 --> 00:44:16.909
you would walk into a store and tell people that
1065
00:44:16.949 --> 00:44:18.730
you had lost your home and they would give you
1066
00:44:18.750 --> 00:44:19.429
this discount.
1067
00:44:19.449 --> 00:44:20.269
It was like a 20% discount.
1068
00:44:20.329 --> 00:44:22.139
How long did that last? Was that three weeks?
1069
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:24.780
That was like a few weeks. And then I went
1070
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:25.219
into a store.
1071
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:28.039
I'm not going to say which one. But I was like, hey,
1072
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:29.840
I lost my home in the fire. Do you guys
1073
00:44:29.860 --> 00:44:32.440
have a discount? And they're like, oh, we stopped doing that.
1074
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:32.860
A week ago.
1075
00:44:32.929 --> 00:44:34.170
If anything, there's a surcharge.
1076
00:44:34.250 --> 00:44:36.530
Yeah, I know. I know. The sad thing is it
1077
00:44:36.570 --> 00:44:37.909
was a 99 cent store.
1078
00:44:38.090 --> 00:44:38.849
I know.
1079
00:44:40.090 --> 00:44:43.159
I want this scrunchie. Do you have a discount, ma'am?
1080
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:46.000
I know. It's 50 cents.
1081
00:44:46.940 --> 00:44:49.239
I think that there's still people. I mean, there's still
1082
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:52.500
the empathy there. It's still there. There's still some feeling
1083
00:44:52.579 --> 00:44:54.679
of it, but it is waning a lot. It is
1084
00:44:54.739 --> 00:44:57.340
very quick how quickly people kind of just move on.
1085
00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:00.530
To be fair, I would often go to a McDonald's
1086
00:45:00.630 --> 00:45:03.190
and tell them or a cheesecake factory and tell them
1087
00:45:03.230 --> 00:45:04.730
I had lost my home in a fire, even when
1088
00:45:04.769 --> 00:45:05.210
I hadn't.
1089
00:45:05.429 --> 00:45:06.449
But you did it.
1090
00:45:06.550 --> 00:45:08.050
You're taking my discount.
1091
00:45:08.150 --> 00:45:10.250
I know. And they would be like, that sounds terrible.
1092
00:45:10.289 --> 00:45:14.900
And I say, so this McFlurry. What are we talking
1093
00:45:14.940 --> 00:45:17.130
about here? Can I get 80 cents on the dollar?
1094
00:45:18.469 --> 00:45:20.429
And sometimes I put a little ash on my cheek.
1095
00:45:20.510 --> 00:45:21.030
No!
1096
00:45:21.349 --> 00:45:22.010
I did!
1097
00:45:22.469 --> 00:45:22.889
What?
1098
00:45:22.969 --> 00:45:25.630
I'm just telling you the real me. I kept, always
1099
00:45:25.690 --> 00:45:28.199
keep a little ash in your pocket. Oh my God.
1100
00:45:28.219 --> 00:45:29.460
You can get a discount.
1101
00:45:29.539 --> 00:45:32.360
It's not like I had ash ever on my face.
1102
00:45:32.460 --> 00:45:34.710
Well, you fucked up. You're not okay. You'd be having a,
1103
00:45:36.010 --> 00:45:39.269
You'd be having a discount McFlurry right now. She had
1104
00:45:39.289 --> 00:45:41.269
a little ash in your pocket. Why didn't you work up.
1105
00:45:41.219 --> 00:45:44.099
Your orphan angle instead of the fire one?
1106
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:46.679
There seems to be this consensus that I'm too old.
1107
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:47.320
Okay.
1108
00:45:47.340 --> 00:45:49.960
Which I don't get. Because I think I'm very well
1109
00:45:50.019 --> 00:45:51.360
preserved for a man my age.
1110
00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:53.840
Ah, gee, I lost my parents.
1111
00:45:55.070 --> 00:45:57.949
Do you have any soup? Sir, I saw you drive
1112
00:45:58.110 --> 00:46:02.949
up in a Porsche. Yeah, but I'm not rich.
1113
00:46:03.070 --> 00:46:03.690
I'm cash poor.
1114
00:46:03.809 --> 00:46:09.269
Cash asset rich. I have a lot of land in Montana.
1115
00:46:09.889 --> 00:46:12.510
In vast holdings, but I can't access them.
1116
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:16.219
Can I have some soup? All my money's tied up
1117
00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:20.780
in holdings. It takes 24 hours to get the bank in.
1118
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:22.900
Sweden to open up.
1119
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:24.739
All right.
1120
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:25.760
What's your name?
1121
00:46:25.780 --> 00:46:26.179
Billy.
1122
00:46:26.460 --> 00:46:26.920
Billy.
1123
00:46:27.940 --> 00:46:29.679
You're changing your name?
1124
00:46:30.380 --> 00:46:31.340
Billy does work better.
1125
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:33.639
It's a better name for me. What's the name you
1126
00:46:33.659 --> 00:46:37.289
were thinking of naming your son but didn't because Tom? Mickey.
1127
00:46:37.530 --> 00:46:38.210
That's a good one.
1128
00:46:38.590 --> 00:46:39.250
Mickey.
1129
00:46:39.429 --> 00:46:39.789
Yeah.
1130
00:46:40.329 --> 00:46:41.250
Mickey the orphan.
1131
00:46:41.610 --> 00:46:46.880
Mickey the 61-year-old orphan. It counts. Who's done quite well.
1132
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:49.920
It counts.
1133
00:46:50.059 --> 00:46:53.260
It's so fucking dark. It really is.
1134
00:46:53.300 --> 00:46:56.130
I'm sorry, but my parents would laugh at it. I
1135
00:46:56.150 --> 00:46:59.210
can say that now because they're not here. They would
1136
00:46:59.250 --> 00:47:02.909
laugh at that. Like them in the afterlife. No, we wouldn't.
1137
00:47:03.750 --> 00:47:08.150
You asshole. We never liked you. I am going to
1138
00:47:08.190 --> 00:47:10.030
get back on track here. Yeah, take it back. And
1139
00:47:10.050 --> 00:47:12.360
I'm going to get back on track to one of
1140
00:47:12.389 --> 00:47:17.159
the things that makes me very happy for you is
1141
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:19.940
that I think it is a wonderful era for people
1142
00:47:20.019 --> 00:47:22.960
who have what it takes, have ability, and have a
1143
00:47:22.980 --> 00:47:25.929
work ethic. And you have all those things and you're
1144
00:47:25.949 --> 00:47:30.530
getting to do consistently this really cool work. You have
1145
00:47:30.550 --> 00:47:32.530
this project now, Zero Day. And I was looking at
1146
00:47:32.570 --> 00:47:35.889
the cast. Yeah, it's on Netflix. And I'm like, you know,
1147
00:47:36.380 --> 00:47:37.880
I've had so many people sit in the chair that
1148
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.780
you're in. And people talk a lot about body dysmorphia
1149
00:47:40.900 --> 00:47:43.500
and how people can think they look a certain way
1150
00:47:43.539 --> 00:47:45.400
and they don't and they hate on themselves. And I
1151
00:47:45.900 --> 00:47:48.980
consistently believe that there's something called career dysmorphia that hasn't
1152
00:47:49.019 --> 00:47:52.559
been diagnosed yet, and I'd like to invent that and
1153
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.539
submit that to the New England Journal of Medicine. But
1154
00:47:55.980 --> 00:47:59.820
I've had Al Pacino. Al Pacino sat in that chair
1155
00:48:01.030 --> 00:48:04.929
and talked so much about the huge chunks of his
1156
00:48:05.010 --> 00:48:08.710
career that didn't work out and how they didn't want
1157
00:48:08.750 --> 00:48:11.489
him for The Godfather and how he couldn't get a
1158
00:48:11.530 --> 00:48:13.550
job in movies in the late 80s and thought he
1159
00:48:13.590 --> 00:48:17.800
was through and how he thinks all the bad reviews
1160
00:48:17.860 --> 00:48:20.329
people told him about And I kept wanting to cut
1161
00:48:20.369 --> 00:48:24.369
him off and saying, you're Al Pacino. You're the face
1162
00:48:24.530 --> 00:48:29.710
of film for at least the 70s. You do iconic
1163
00:48:29.750 --> 00:48:34.800
work in every decade. And you have it too? It's
1164
00:48:34.820 --> 00:48:37.179
just so funny to me that you would talk about, oh,
1165
00:48:37.219 --> 00:48:39.280
you know, the fallow periods. And maybe I could do
1166
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:40.820
more if I got the word out on my chia
1167
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:44.800
seed recipe. And you're in Zero Day on Netflix. Your
1168
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:49.659
co-stars are Robert De Niro, Angela Bassett, Connie Britton. Jesse
1169
00:48:49.699 --> 00:48:52.519
Plemons and Matthew Modine. Yes.
1170
00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:56.719
Dan Stevens. It's what it's Gabby Hoffman. It's the craziest cast.
1171
00:48:57.219 --> 00:49:00.579
And it's the best work I see now is limited
1172
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:03.360
series is is our cinema.
1173
00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:05.699
And I like limited series, too. I like watching them
1174
00:49:05.739 --> 00:49:09.239
and doing them. It just feels like a very long movie.
1175
00:49:10.820 --> 00:49:12.710
I haven't seen Zero Day.
1176
00:49:13.730 --> 00:49:15.909
My dad died. I don't know if we mentioned that.
1177
00:49:16.469 --> 00:49:19.309
So I haven't watched the screeners, which is bad because
1178
00:49:19.349 --> 00:49:20.570
I do want to. watch it.
1179
00:49:20.579 --> 00:49:24.260
That's interesting. I'm trying to picture you watch yourself. I
1180
00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:26.179
hate it. Yeah, I would imagine you would.
1181
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:28.179
I don't always hate it, but I do want to
1182
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:32.159
watch this one because it's fairly dense and complex and
1183
00:49:32.179 --> 00:49:34.050
I want to be able to talk about it.
1184
00:49:34.150 --> 00:49:34.949
It's topical.
1185
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:39.980
A little eerily topical. I hope people are in the
1186
00:49:40.059 --> 00:49:42.539
mood to watch something that looks a lot like what's
1187
00:49:42.570 --> 00:49:46.050
happening in reality, but is kind of this horror show
1188
00:49:46.150 --> 00:49:48.769
version of it. Very smart people made this show. Very
1189
00:49:48.789 --> 00:49:51.730
smart people were in this show. And I don't know,
1190
00:49:51.769 --> 00:49:54.750
it's ensembly enough that I think I could watch it
1191
00:49:54.789 --> 00:49:57.710
without hating the experience too much.
1192
00:49:58.170 --> 00:50:00.679
But I think it's good. I mean, I had a
1193
00:50:00.699 --> 00:50:03.119
great time doing it. It was surreal.
1194
00:50:03.559 --> 00:50:03.739
You.
1195
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:08.619
Oftentimes, like, the don't meet your heroes thing rings very,
1196
00:50:08.659 --> 00:50:09.199
very true.
1197
00:50:09.219 --> 00:50:10.679
It didn't on this.
1198
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:11.400
That's nice.
1199
00:50:11.420 --> 00:50:15.909
De Niro's, like, just a nice man. He's, like, a kind,
1200
00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:18.090
generous man. I always think.
1201
00:50:18.130 --> 00:50:20.610
So, Leslie Linka Glatter, who directed all the episodes, and
1202
00:50:20.630 --> 00:50:23.789
she did Homeland, and she's the president of the DGA.
1203
00:50:23.829 --> 00:50:26.929
She's, like, a badass, incredible woman. She's done a bunch
1204
00:50:26.949 --> 00:50:31.269
of movies. Like, she's wonderful. And she directed every episode.
1205
00:50:31.610 --> 00:50:32.030
And her.
1206
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:35.659
vibe on set because she did one episode of masters
1207
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:38.500
of sex in the first season and i wanted her
1208
00:50:38.579 --> 00:50:40.539
to like be our all the time director but she
1209
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:46.010
was doing homeland so she didn't um she maintains this
1210
00:50:46.570 --> 00:50:49.849
on set energy that i don't even like it's six
1211
00:50:49.909 --> 00:50:52.349
months it's six months to shoot this um robert de
1212
00:50:52.369 --> 00:50:55.030
niro's never done a television show i believe he didn't
1213
00:50:55.050 --> 00:50:57.099
know what he was getting into in terms of like
1214
00:50:57.340 --> 00:50:59.920
the time like how much time it takes and like
1215
00:50:59.940 --> 00:51:04.199
the hours and he was in everything Um, but the
1216
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:06.619
first day of shooting on that, the crew is always
1217
00:51:06.659 --> 00:51:09.000
in a good mood for everything on the first day.
1218
00:51:09.500 --> 00:51:12.619
The last day, six months later, everybody was in as
1219
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:13.239
good of a mood.
1220
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:14.869
The vibes were so good.
1221
00:51:15.309 --> 00:51:19.349
It was just like a job that felt important, but
1222
00:51:19.369 --> 00:51:21.570
at the same time, right size in terms of like
1223
00:51:21.789 --> 00:51:23.789
in your real life, like you'd go to work and
1224
00:51:23.809 --> 00:51:25.590
you'd go home and these people didn't need to be
1225
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:27.800
like your best friends and you didn't need, it was
1226
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.869
just like, it felt very grown up, like adult, but
1227
00:51:30.929 --> 00:51:31.789
also really fun.
1228
00:51:32.030 --> 00:51:32.230
Right.
1229
00:51:32.949 --> 00:51:35.570
I don't know. It was great. It was a great experience.
1230
00:51:35.710 --> 00:51:39.050
And we honestly, like during the strike, which was the
1231
00:51:39.070 --> 00:51:42.039
last fun thing, just taking it back to like the
1232
00:51:42.059 --> 00:51:45.719
doldrums again, we were supposed to start this.
1233
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:50.239
June of last year, maybe. I don't know what year
1234
00:51:50.260 --> 00:51:50.460
it is.
1235
00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:50.980
Yeah.
1236
00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:53.570
We were supposed to do like June to December and
1237
00:51:53.590 --> 00:51:56.389
that was the strike. And we ended up doing January,
1238
00:51:56.840 --> 00:51:59.159
to the next June. So it was a full year
1239
00:51:59.579 --> 00:52:02.880
and everybody stayed on board. Everybody was just as excited.
1240
00:52:03.159 --> 00:52:04.619
And we knew we.
1241
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:06.420
Got to- Which is rare because usually that's when people say,
1242
00:52:06.460 --> 00:52:09.159
you know, I got this play I'm going to go
1243
00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:11.300
do in the West End. It was nothing.
1244
00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:15.039
And even just having that moment of like, well, everybody
1245
00:52:15.260 --> 00:52:17.820
else or so many other people were really stressed out
1246
00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:19.719
about what they were going to do and work and
1247
00:52:19.739 --> 00:52:22.219
all of this, like knowing that Netflix is probably not
1248
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:22.510
going to.
1249
00:52:22.929 --> 00:52:25.210
Shelve the Robert De Niro series.
1250
00:52:25.250 --> 00:52:27.869
Like it just felt like we had a safety net
1251
00:52:27.949 --> 00:52:29.889
at a time when there wasn't a lot of safety nets.
1252
00:52:30.010 --> 00:52:33.119
And again, like if it's just the experience, which for
1253
00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:35.239
me is truly the only part I like of this
1254
00:52:35.260 --> 00:52:37.900
whole job, like it was a great experience and I
1255
00:52:37.900 --> 00:52:38.460
think it's really good.
1256
00:52:38.980 --> 00:52:40.980
And I think you should definitely watch it.
1257
00:52:41.780 --> 00:52:46.440
America. Which camera are you looking to?
1258
00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:48.679
The American camera.
1259
00:52:48.780 --> 00:52:50.460
Okay, there we go.
1260
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:51.199
That's China.
1261
00:52:51.260 --> 00:52:54.119
Let's just make it the number one show on Netflix
1262
00:52:54.219 --> 00:52:56.840
until the next thing comes out on Netflix, America.
1263
00:52:58.969 --> 00:53:01.849
The last observation that I will make is, and I'm
1264
00:53:02.389 --> 00:53:05.349
certain I'm right about this, as dire as things are
1265
00:53:05.409 --> 00:53:08.150
right now, and this is my need to be optimistic,
1266
00:53:08.190 --> 00:53:10.510
but I also think this is accurate. Let's say you
1267
00:53:10.530 --> 00:53:12.400
could go back in time to what you would consider
1268
00:53:12.420 --> 00:53:15.659
like the classic period of making entertainment. And it's like
1269
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:19.280
the 1930s, the 1940s. They would have watched you in
1270
00:53:19.340 --> 00:53:21.820
Mean Girls and they would have said, she's great. She's
1271
00:53:21.860 --> 00:53:24.840
really funny. That's what she does. And that's what you
1272
00:53:24.860 --> 00:53:27.579
would have done for the next 50 years of your career.
1273
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:31.760
And because we live in this different era, there's nothing
1274
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:34.719
you can't do in this era. Whereas they would have
1275
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:36.179
definitely put you in a slot.
1276
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:36.639
Yeah.
1277
00:53:37.269 --> 00:53:40.119
And you would have been punished for being really good
1278
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:41.619
at one thing and they never would have seen the
1279
00:53:41.659 --> 00:53:42.059
other thing.
1280
00:53:42.219 --> 00:53:42.420
Yeah.
1281
00:53:42.980 --> 00:53:47.670
So even if that means there's iPhones and other problems.
1282
00:53:47.969 --> 00:53:53.789
I love Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos so much. I
1283
00:53:53.809 --> 00:53:55.429
just want to say. That's what you're.
1284
00:53:55.320 --> 00:54:00.079
Trying to say. They have been on their yachts many times.
1285
00:54:00.099 --> 00:54:00.920
I bet you have.
1286
00:54:00.980 --> 00:54:02.090
You're a big yacht guy.
1287
00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:02.969
Big yacht guy.
1288
00:54:03.010 --> 00:54:03.730
Yeah, big yacht energy.
1289
00:54:03.750 --> 00:54:04.429
I know my yachts.
1290
00:54:05.110 --> 00:54:06.329
You got big yacht energy.
1291
00:54:06.550 --> 00:54:06.809
I am.
1292
00:54:07.010 --> 00:54:10.809
Mega yacht energy. That's the only big energy I have.
1293
00:54:11.449 --> 00:54:14.369
I have big yacht energy. No, I love a big yacht.
1294
00:54:14.389 --> 00:54:16.349
I like being invited. I like being at the beck
1295
00:54:16.369 --> 00:54:17.769
and call of a billionaire.
1296
00:54:18.010 --> 00:54:18.730
Oh, yeah.
1297
00:54:18.769 --> 00:54:20.929
Yeah, and then when they say, like, dance for us,
1298
00:54:21.010 --> 00:54:22.010
I do a little something.
1299
00:54:22.030 --> 00:54:22.820
Oh, that makes more sense.
1300
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:26.219
And then I get a Krugerrand. Yeah. A gold coin
1301
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:27.739
in case anyone doesn't know what that is.
1302
00:54:28.380 --> 00:54:31.480
I also think that even like not in the 30s,
1303
00:54:31.500 --> 00:54:35.530
like in recent times, they would typecast you and pigeonhole you.
1304
00:54:35.590 --> 00:54:37.690
And now it's like only it's very new to not
1305
00:54:37.929 --> 00:54:41.469
have that happen. Like in the past 20 years, maybe people.
1306
00:54:40.829 --> 00:54:42.199
Think, oh, you can do more than one thing.
1307
00:54:42.429 --> 00:54:42.639
Right.
1308
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:45.340
But a lot of people do find themselves like stuck
1309
00:54:45.380 --> 00:54:47.039
in a lane and it sucks.
1310
00:54:47.619 --> 00:54:50.219
I'm stuck doing one thing because that's what I can do.
1311
00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:52.880
That's not true, Conan.
1312
00:54:52.900 --> 00:54:56.449
That's not true. But I'm saying happily. I'm happily stuck
1313
00:54:56.510 --> 00:54:56.989
in my lane.
1314
00:54:57.090 --> 00:54:58.989
You're not stuck in a lane, though, because I just
1315
00:54:59.090 --> 00:55:02.389
read that you were incredible in your Sundance movie.
1316
00:55:02.929 --> 00:55:03.469
Okay.
1317
00:55:03.829 --> 00:55:05.110
As a male gigolo.
1318
00:55:05.230 --> 00:55:06.760
This orphan thing is working for you.
1319
00:55:06.780 --> 00:55:08.079
Yeah, that's how I got the part.
1320
00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:09.940
I'm an orphan.
1321
00:55:10.099 --> 00:55:10.920
Yeah, I'm an orphan.
1322
00:55:12.429 --> 00:55:14.780
Why am I getting smaller and squeakier as an orphan?
1323
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:20.820
But Lizzie, this... was a lovely conversation. This is so surreal.
1324
00:55:20.860 --> 00:55:24.099
I feel like we're just starting it. There should have.
1325
00:55:24.039 --> 00:55:26.760
Been more jokes. You have dysmorphia.
1326
00:55:26.820 --> 00:55:28.829
There should have been laughter.
1327
00:55:29.010 --> 00:55:31.030
Well, we're going to put laughter over all the parts.
1328
00:55:31.070 --> 00:55:34.369
When you talk about losing your dad, when you talk
1329
00:55:34.389 --> 00:55:36.110
about losing your dad and I talk about losing my parents,
1330
00:55:36.570 --> 00:55:38.500
we're just going to pipe in laughter from the 1940s.
1331
00:55:38.630 --> 00:55:41.550
That would be amazing.
1332
00:55:41.849 --> 00:55:47.550
I love Lucy laughs. Yeah. Nothing has changed. It's only
1333
00:55:47.570 --> 00:55:50.590
you've only today confirmed my feelings about you, Lizzie, which
1334
00:55:50.690 --> 00:55:52.610
is you're one of my all time favorite people. You
1335
00:55:53.210 --> 00:55:58.889
are incredibly hyper, insanely talented and you're a real person.
1336
00:55:58.909 --> 00:56:02.199
And every time I see you, you're Lizzie Kaplan and
1337
00:56:02.219 --> 00:56:06.280
you're very wise and just a delight to be with you.
1338
00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:09.659
Thank you very much. I'm going to say it. Zero
1339
00:56:09.679 --> 00:56:12.409
Day Netflix, if you're not watching it, you're stupid.
1340
00:56:12.510 --> 00:56:14.170
Yeah, you're stupid.
1341
00:56:14.349 --> 00:56:14.929
Yeah.
1342
00:56:14.949 --> 00:56:17.679
Don't be stupid. Watch Zero Day.
1343
00:56:17.699 --> 00:56:19.900
Come on. Why isn't that going to be the tagline?
1344
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:21.840
No, that is the tagline. I mean, De Niro's been
1345
00:56:21.860 --> 00:56:22.699
saying that on everything.
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Recently on the podcast, we talked about how you could
1374
00:57:59.150 --> 00:58:02.309
mail into a comic book advertisement and get the Polaris
1375
00:58:02.369 --> 00:58:03.289
nuclear submarine.
1376
00:58:03.469 --> 00:58:06.090
Yes. The only thing I'll add to that, this was
1377
00:58:06.150 --> 00:58:08.650
many years ago. I don't think it's still true, but
1378
00:58:09.590 --> 00:58:13.289
when I was a kid, probably around 1970, 71, on
1379
00:58:13.309 --> 00:58:15.070
the back of a magazine, there were these things that
1380
00:58:15.090 --> 00:58:17.469
you could, on the back of a comic book, there
1381
00:58:17.489 --> 00:58:19.010
were things you could send away with. One of them
1382
00:58:19.070 --> 00:58:21.829
famously was like x-ray specs. And it showed a guy,
1383
00:58:21.849 --> 00:58:23.849
I mean, it's so not PC today, but a guy
1384
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:26.750
looking at a woman in a dress. And the idea
1385
00:58:26.769 --> 00:58:28.150
was that you put these on and you can see
1386
00:58:28.190 --> 00:58:28.909
through her dress.
1387
00:58:29.070 --> 00:58:29.469
Oh, good.
1388
00:58:29.650 --> 00:58:29.909
Yeah.
1389
00:58:30.309 --> 00:58:31.289
How many of those did you buy?
1390
00:58:31.289 --> 00:58:36.610
700. And they do work. Yeah. One of the things
1391
00:58:36.650 --> 00:58:39.570
that really intrigued me was give us, I don't know
1392
00:58:39.610 --> 00:58:41.480
what it was. $ 7.
1393
00:58:41.380 --> 00:58:41.559
$ 7.
1394
00:58:41.469 --> 00:58:45.039
And we'll send you a working mini Polaris sub that
1395
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:48.920
fires missiles. You can get inside. It has a periscope. Now,
1396
00:58:49.019 --> 00:58:52.460
I never did it, but all these years later, it
1397
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:54.909
floats into my mind every now and then. What the
1398
00:58:54.929 --> 00:58:57.519
hell was that thing? What did you, because legally, if
1399
00:58:57.539 --> 00:58:59.920
you send them $ 7, they have to send you something.
1400
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:03.219
And so we brought it up and you remembered it too. Yeah,
1401
00:59:03.300 --> 00:59:03.539
I did.
1402
00:59:03.559 --> 00:59:06.650
And I remember the hovercraft too. And they're distinctly two
1403
00:59:06.710 --> 00:59:12.059
different things. So the submarine does send you a submarine,
1404
00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:15.719
but apparently it's been very hard for people to track down.
1405
00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:18.239
And I found the third point of singularity blog.
1406
00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:20.519
It kind of, it looks like they went on a
1407
00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:24.070
kind of hunt themselves and ultimately found it. It's the
1408
00:59:24.110 --> 00:59:26.800
other tab, Eduardo, if you don't mind. And this is
1409
00:59:26.840 --> 00:59:30.070
what you end up getting. And it's like a cardboard submarine.
1410
00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:31.340
Oh, my God. Wait a minute. I swear to God,
1411
00:59:31.389 --> 00:59:32.849
that kid looks like me.
1412
00:59:33.070 --> 00:59:33.750
Yeah.
1413
00:59:33.829 --> 00:59:36.190
I mean, that's what I looked like back in the day.
1414
00:59:36.269 --> 00:59:39.849
He's got the same bowl haircut, the same look of
1415
00:59:39.909 --> 00:59:46.460
just defeat. Oh, no, no, no. But that wait a
1416
00:59:46.500 --> 00:59:50.719
minute that I have to say looks more impressive than
1417
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:51.119
I thought.
1418
00:59:51.219 --> 00:59:51.480
Really?
1419
00:59:51.500 --> 00:59:54.840
Because I see just cardboard that's kind of pinned together
1420
00:59:54.940 --> 00:59:57.070
and It's certainly not going to do well.
1421
00:59:56.929 --> 00:59:57.449
In the water.
1422
00:59:57.889 --> 00:59:58.010
Oh.
1423
00:59:59.090 --> 01:00:01.389
But isn't that nice? He's using his imagination.
1424
01:00:01.409 --> 01:00:04.050
Isn't that the whole point? Does it fire a missile?
1425
01:00:04.070 --> 01:00:07.980
I guess not. Okay. It's all right. Okay, so I
1426
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:12.739
don't know. This is helping me. This is actually, this
1427
01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:17.699
is therapeutic. This is giving me some closure because that's something. Yeah.
1428
01:00:17.980 --> 01:00:21.320
You get inside and it does close and it's got,
1429
01:00:21.659 --> 01:00:23.260
I mean, seven bucks?
1430
01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:23.559
Yeah.
1431
01:00:24.300 --> 01:00:26.980
I guess this is seven bucks back then. So now
1432
01:00:27.019 --> 01:00:30.639
this would be the equivalent of like $ 35. That's true. So,
1433
01:00:31.579 --> 01:00:34.780
or $ 50. I don't know. Times have changed. It's so funny.
1434
01:00:34.820 --> 01:00:37.510
He looks so far from water. I know. It's like
1435
01:00:37.780 --> 01:00:40.630
definitely Wisconsin. He's in the Midwest. There isn't a body
1436
01:00:40.690 --> 01:00:46.670
of water for 800 miles. And he's like, See you later.
1437
01:00:46.889 --> 01:00:51.349
For the listener, this looks like a cardboard submarine seated
1438
01:00:51.389 --> 01:00:53.389
in the middle of a big lawn.
1439
01:00:53.469 --> 01:00:55.929
Yeah, and there's a fence way in the backyard and
1440
01:00:55.949 --> 01:01:00.900
then power lines. All you can see is just lawn
1441
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:02.059
and no ocean.
1442
01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:04.619
It's fun. So how fun is that?
1443
01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:05.519
Isn't that fun?
1444
01:01:05.559 --> 01:01:07.800
If you're a little kid, you're not going to go
1445
01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:09.539
to the ocean and go in a submarine.
1446
01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:12.000
I used to make things out of boxes.
1447
01:01:12.019 --> 01:01:14.059
I used to too. I used to, if a big
1448
01:01:14.119 --> 01:01:17.019
box came in It was just a done deal that
1449
01:01:17.300 --> 01:01:20.130
either Luke or I would get to build something with it.
1450
01:01:20.260 --> 01:01:23.690
So I don't know. I am not disappointed by that.
1451
01:01:23.750 --> 01:01:24.289
Me neither.
1452
01:01:24.429 --> 01:01:28.650
That actually looks better than I thought it was going
1453
01:01:28.670 --> 01:01:32.389
to look. Yeah, me too. I'm impressed. So I salute
1454
01:01:32.409 --> 01:01:34.159
this company, and I think this should have been used
1455
01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:35.420
by the military.
1456
01:01:36.420 --> 01:01:38.639
The thing that I more remember was this hovercraft.
1457
01:01:38.860 --> 01:01:39.000
Okay.
1458
01:01:39.019 --> 01:01:40.460
And when I said last time that I thought it
1459
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:42.719
was a kit, that's what the hovercraft is. You were
1460
01:01:42.739 --> 01:01:45.289
supposed to take your motor out of your vacuum- and
1461
01:01:45.309 --> 01:01:48.150
build this hovercraft. So let's go to the other tab here.
1462
01:01:48.190 --> 01:01:50.760
This must have thrilled your parents. I know. When they
1463
01:01:50.780 --> 01:01:51.940
went to use the vacuum.
1464
01:01:51.960 --> 01:01:52.860
Does this look.
1465
01:01:52.820 --> 01:01:55.940
Familiar to you? Yes. It lifts 200 pounds. Yes. Nothing
1466
01:01:56.019 --> 01:01:56.800
about this looks familiar.
1467
01:01:57.199 --> 01:01:59.619
And then scroll down and you can see on this blog. Wait,
1468
01:01:59.659 --> 01:02:01.079
go back up to see what this blog is named.
1469
01:02:01.380 --> 01:02:02.480
Dwyer and Michaels.
1470
01:02:02.800 --> 01:02:06.460
Okay. All right. This guy actually built the vacuum. Okay.
1471
01:02:06.860 --> 01:02:10.739
And here's the order. Astronauts iron on with order. Okay.
1472
01:02:10.780 --> 01:02:14.659
You can float on air free. Lifts 200 pounds. So basically, yeah,
1473
01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:16.960
a hovercraft you could build. I remember this.
1474
01:02:17.300 --> 01:02:18.869
Yeah, now scroll down and you can see that the
1475
01:02:18.929 --> 01:02:19.559
guy built it.
1476
01:02:19.570 --> 01:02:19.929
Okay.
1477
01:02:19.949 --> 01:02:21.449
There's a bunch of other ads.
1478
01:02:21.530 --> 01:02:22.269
Oh, boy.
1479
01:02:22.570 --> 01:02:25.530
That's it. He's building it? Yeah. Okay, well, there you go.
1480
01:02:25.550 --> 01:02:27.289
And then, yeah, play that video.
1481
01:02:28.250 --> 01:02:31.880
What? Oh, I know this website. It's called Bad Use
1482
01:02:31.889 --> 01:02:37.820
of Your Time. Well, I'm supposed to do dialysis today,
1483
01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:40.809
but I figured I'll build this hovercraft from the 60s.
1484
01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:44.449
I mean, that's kind of cool.
1485
01:02:44.510 --> 01:02:46.530
We can't get enough air from a vacuum.
1486
01:02:46.969 --> 01:02:48.969
Oh, got him. He wasn't looking.
1487
01:02:49.090 --> 01:02:52.250
But no kid that's, you know, an eight-year-old kid is
1488
01:02:52.269 --> 01:02:53.769
going to be able to build that. I guess it's
1489
01:02:53.809 --> 01:02:56.739
a nice project with your, you know, scout troop leader
1490
01:02:56.820 --> 01:02:57.360
or your dad.
1491
01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:00.860
Big problem here is you have to take the motor
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out of your parents' vacuum cleaner. And that was not
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01:03:04.539 --> 01:03:05.579
going to fly in my house.
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01:03:05.739 --> 01:03:07.599
No kid from the 50s that took the motor out
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01:03:07.619 --> 01:03:09.699
of their vacuum cleaner would get away unscathed.
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01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:11.960
Also, how do you do that? How do you just
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01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:13.739
take a motor out of a vacuum? Why do they
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01:03:13.780 --> 01:03:15.880
think an eight-year-old would even know how to do that?
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01:03:16.619 --> 01:03:17.360
Okay.
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01:03:17.820 --> 01:03:20.619
I'm asking the real question, but you guys are being nostalgic.
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01:03:20.659 --> 01:03:21.059
I agree.
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01:03:21.099 --> 01:03:21.320
Wait.
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01:03:21.420 --> 01:03:24.420
Don't throw me under this bus.
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01:03:24.500 --> 01:03:26.820
Yeah, just because we don't answer every one of your questions.
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01:03:26.840 --> 01:03:28.739
Well, you stare at me confused.
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01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:32.219
I just don't know why I hired you. That's a
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01:03:32.260 --> 01:03:33.360
look that goes back to.
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01:03:34.090 --> 01:03:34.719
Don't think about it.
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01:03:34.699 --> 01:03:35.329
2008 question.
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01:03:35.349 --> 01:03:37.050
We don't think about that. We just....
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01:03:39.929 --> 01:03:40.699
Live in the moment.
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01:03:40.760 --> 01:03:43.650
Live in the moment. Well, you know what? I have
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01:03:43.670 --> 01:03:45.030
to say there is closure here.
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01:03:45.050 --> 01:03:45.590
Good.
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01:03:45.769 --> 01:03:49.170
I now know what Rosebud means. That helped me. That
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01:03:49.190 --> 01:03:49.489
helped me.
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01:03:49.530 --> 01:03:49.809
How?
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01:03:49.989 --> 01:03:52.190
Why? I don't know, because it was a mystery that
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01:03:52.230 --> 01:03:55.190
never got solved. It was an itch that never got scratched.
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01:03:55.570 --> 01:03:57.530
It was a riddle that never had an answer. And
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01:03:57.570 --> 01:03:59.210
now you have shown me what it was.
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01:03:59.309 --> 01:04:01.010
Do you remember, too, like the x-ray gogs?
1523
01:04:01.050 --> 01:04:03.010
There was also a thing where you could go from
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01:04:03.050 --> 01:04:05.750
being a scrawny little kid to a big kind of like...
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01:04:06.099 --> 01:04:08.519
buff guy and there's a little picture of tough guy
1526
01:04:08.699 --> 01:04:10.480
kicking sand on the little guy on the beach.
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01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:13.619
Yeah, those are called steroids. That's kind of a comic book.
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01:04:13.639 --> 01:04:16.159
That's called juicing. I don't know what they were promising.
1529
01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:18.139
They were just probably sending you a booklet that says
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01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:21.559
take two soup cans from mom's kitchen and start using
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01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:25.519
them to make a bicep. But now we know what
1532
01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:30.909
that is, which is medical grade chemicals that will transform
1533
01:04:30.929 --> 01:04:33.179
your body. And I don't know because I'm on them.
1534
01:04:34.429 --> 01:04:35.469
How long have you been on them?
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01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:38.760
Uh, sadly, I've been on them for my entire life.
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01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:39.480
Oh, no.
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01:04:40.099 --> 01:04:45.690
What would you have looked like? I'd have had no
1538
01:04:45.789 --> 01:04:50.739
skeletal structure. Well, that was fun. Thank you for doing that.
1539
01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:53.380
That that that helped me. And I hope it helped
1540
01:04:53.539 --> 01:04:56.789
everyone else who listens from my generation who remembers that. Sona,
1541
01:04:56.809 --> 01:04:57.670
you seem confused.
1542
01:04:57.789 --> 01:04:59.250
I am completely confused.
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01:04:59.510 --> 01:05:01.670
But I also I mean, I think that every generation
1544
01:05:01.710 --> 01:05:04.789
has like toys and stuff that like kind of you.
1545
01:05:04.989 --> 01:05:07.940
Yeah, exactly. What was yours? McDonald's Monopoly.
1546
01:05:08.460 --> 01:05:10.519
Oh, that's different because that was Rick. But I was
1547
01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:12.739
thinking of the spy tech gear. Do you guys remember
1548
01:05:12.780 --> 01:05:14.079
the spy tech stuff?
1549
01:05:14.599 --> 01:05:16.599
It was like a bunch of gear that they sold
1550
01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:18.750
to kids that was supposed to help you like.
1551
01:05:18.630 --> 01:05:19.269
Be a better spy.
1552
01:05:19.329 --> 01:05:22.170
There was a mirror periscope. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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01:05:22.230 --> 01:05:25.150
Like a microphone or like a not a microphone, but
1554
01:05:25.190 --> 01:05:27.449
something you held up so you could hear things.
1555
01:05:27.090 --> 01:05:28.119
From further away.
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01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:29.500
And so and it didn't work.
1557
01:05:29.980 --> 01:05:31.460
I think we bought a bunch of it. I don't
1558
01:05:31.500 --> 01:05:32.460
think any of it worked.
1559
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:33.960
Were you doing actual spying?
1560
01:05:34.179 --> 01:05:34.440
Yeah.
1561
01:05:34.460 --> 01:05:34.880
For the government?
1562
01:05:34.900 --> 01:05:35.460
On our neighbors.
1563
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:35.820
Oh.
1564
01:05:36.019 --> 01:05:38.389
We would go around our neighbors, hide behind bushes and
1565
01:05:38.429 --> 01:05:39.429
try to spy on them.
1566
01:05:39.610 --> 01:05:40.789
Do you ever hear anything juicy?
1567
01:05:40.849 --> 01:05:41.389
Yeah.
1568
01:05:41.809 --> 01:05:46.449
No, because they didn't work. Hey, they're Armenian too. We
1569
01:05:46.510 --> 01:05:47.690
all live in this neighborhood.
1570
01:05:47.710 --> 01:05:49.030
What about you?
1571
01:05:49.130 --> 01:05:50.090
What did you mention?
1572
01:05:50.110 --> 01:05:52.989
I mentioned McDonald's Monopoly, although to Sona's point, it's been...
1573
01:05:53.750 --> 01:05:56.610
explained now through documentaries that it was all a scam.
1574
01:05:57.250 --> 01:05:58.829
But as a kid, you know, you were sold on
1575
01:05:58.849 --> 01:06:00.730
the promise of like, oh, if I just buy a
1576
01:06:00.750 --> 01:06:02.550
bunch of fries and we keep eating at McDonald's and
1577
01:06:02.570 --> 01:06:05.480
we get these little game pieces, we can win a
1578
01:06:05.780 --> 01:06:09.119
mansion or, you know, some really cool prizes. And you're
1579
01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:11.619
just constantly after the chase. Well, the real win there
1580
01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:12.780
is the health that you got.
1581
01:06:15.079 --> 01:06:17.199
Our generation reminds me of the Columbia House Records.
1582
01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:18.980
Yes, I was thinking that too.
1583
01:06:19.139 --> 01:06:20.699
Like a penny for like.
1584
01:06:20.699 --> 01:06:24.179
19 CDs for one penny.
1585
01:06:24.219 --> 01:06:26.659
You know, I have to say all of these things
1586
01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:31.570
are true disappointments. The sub is looking pretty good. I mean,
1587
01:06:32.119 --> 01:06:34.590
I'm just saying I'm happy because the one I dreamed
1588
01:06:34.630 --> 01:06:40.469
about the most actually appears to be somewhat valid. Would
1589
01:06:40.510 --> 01:06:43.710
I take it deep into the North Atlantic and attack
1590
01:06:43.750 --> 01:06:47.510
a Russian sub? Probably not. But that kid seemed pretty happy.
1591
01:06:47.530 --> 01:06:48.650
That kid could have been you.
1592
01:06:49.030 --> 01:06:49.949
That kid could have been me.
1593
01:06:50.070 --> 01:06:50.269
Yeah.
1594
01:06:50.530 --> 01:06:54.739
And then maybe in some other, you know, fold in time,
1595
01:06:54.760 --> 01:06:57.380
that kid is me, you know? Well, this has been
1596
01:06:57.400 --> 01:07:00.039
a strange end to any conversation. I'm going to sign
1597
01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:04.679
off now, but dreams deferred. We'll continue. It's the new segment.
1598
01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:10.400
Peace out, Tupac. Live your dreams or your dreams live you.
1599
01:07:10.739 --> 01:07:13.909
I have no ending for this, so I'll just keep talking. No, please.
1600
01:07:14.110 --> 01:07:18.289
Until I hit something. Just say bye. And we end,
1601
01:07:18.530 --> 01:07:23.510
or do we? A beginning becomes a reality as we finalize.
1602
01:07:23.590 --> 01:07:24.440
We'll see you next week.
1603
01:07:24.480 --> 01:07:25.519
Oh, he's turning myself off.
1604
01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:33.159
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