Issue 662: Lanterns Ep. 1 "Pilot" Spoiler Review with Chalice Williams

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You can do this, you want you do?
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Oh, hello there again Internet. Welcome to issue six hundred
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and sixty two of Comiccasts. I'm Michael Carroll alongside Jong
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Lee Jong. I feel like I just talked to you.
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Oh it's uh two times in a week? Is is?
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I don't know? Have to stand enough for this?
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Are you okay?
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Yeah?
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You you weren't feeling well the last time we talked,
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which was no.
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No. I mean it's getting better.
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A sinus infection, like if you guys haven't tuned in
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the last issue, but this one is not as.
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Bad as the usual run of the mill sinus infections
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I had.
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I was very tired for a couple of days, couldn't
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hear anything for a few days. Took a little bit
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of medicine over the counter stuff and I still sound
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a little stuffy.
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But I feel a lot better.
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You sound you sound better, So I'm glad there's progress.
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There's progress. I'm very excited. I don't know if our
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guest knows the history of jongly sinus infections, but our
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guest will well now know. Schalie.
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Are you a frequent sinus infection person? Are you good?
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I am not a frequent what I suffer from. I think,
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if I had to pick something, is this like weird
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thing that I discovered what it was Where I was
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using an SPF that was making my face extremely puffy, red.
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And hot, and I thought it was I thought I.
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Was allergic to grass or I thought I was allergic
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to something outside. So I suffered from that.
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You figure out what the ingredients was.
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Oh, you know what, that's a great idea.
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I should probably figure out what the ingredient was, because
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I just I wrote off that brand it was.
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It was a specific brand.
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I love the brands products, but it was that particular
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SPF and I should probably go look at the ingredients
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for that SPF.
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You know, do one of those tests where you just
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kind of put a little bit on your arm or
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something see which one causes the reaction. And I guess
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it'd be a little difficult to get all the ingredients.
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Yeah.
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I also think I was slathering my face in that too,
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and I think that also had a lot to do
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with it.
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But I'm not the only one.
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I definitely went to TikTok typed it in and there
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was many girls that had the same problem.
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Speaking of TikTok, I want to give a round of
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applause to Hileys Williams because you're just you're the content
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that you're creating on social media with the videos, the
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do the Doom stuff and your press junkets and everything.
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I just want to give you a big round of applause.
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It's student podcast clap because that's a lot of work
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and you're seeing the fruits of your labor. Your follower
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counsel going up, your engagement's going up, and it's a
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this the parct doesn't mean much coming from me, but
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you know, me and Michael are proud of you.
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Man.
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Oh no, it does mean a lot coming for you.
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Thank you so much.
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If anything, I think it means you know, it means
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even more like a special asterisk when it comes from
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people who have seen I wouldn't say the word struggle like.
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You know, it sound like it was in the slums.
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Y'll found me on the street I started doing videos.
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But but I definitely think that it's it's definitely it's great.
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It's great to hear from people who've seen me from
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essentially from a beginning starting point, and yeah, I'm definitely
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glad to, like, you know, bring shed some light on
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the creators and press and journalists here in Houston, because
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we don't.
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Get a lot of love. I don't know a lot
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of people know this, but when.
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It comes to Texas, we're looked at as like an afterthought.
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In Houston.
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It's usually Austin and Dallas that are looked at as
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like the priority, so grateful to have that.
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Here, and uh, one of those Well, you're one of
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those that have you know, grown your account organically, and
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you could see why the love and production and all
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the time that it takes to put that stuff together,
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you could see why your account has grown so fast
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so quickly, Versus some other people you're kind of look
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at their accounts like why are you Why is your
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account so big? And you know there's a lot of
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bots and stuff like that. So yeah, I uh, I'm
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prouisly say I know her.
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I love that.
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Thank you guys so much and always like I'm always
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glad to be here. And and as Michael knows, I'm
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trying to get a lot. I mean, since we're here,
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you know, we're obviously here to talk lanterns and it's
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just the beginning of a lot of opportunities that could.
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Potentially be featured.
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That's what I'm working on now is to get more
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interviews for Real Movie Junkie. So I have the clips
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and that I would own the clips to bring here
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and share those interviews on behalf of Real Movie Junkie,
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share them with Comycasts.
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Uh.
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Plot twist.
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This is actually a celebration of Chalise podcast, so you
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know you better be ready for the rest of this podcast.
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No no, but it is.
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Well, we've talked and you're such a awesome creator and
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such a supportive friend that it means the world to
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me and to see you succeed. Like Jong said, it's
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just it's really awesome to see the growth and what
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a shock human created stuff turns out pretty good, that's true.
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No Ai, no.
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No no Ai. Around these parts.
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There is some Lanterns though, that are around these parts,
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and that's what we're going to be talking about on
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today's issue of Comiccast.
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Not all about Chalice.
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Well, I mean that that may be a bonus issue,
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but today we're talking about the first episode of Lanterns,
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just simply titled pilot. Of course, this is a spoiler review,
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so be prepared for the rest of the way to
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get spoiled. If you haven't watched the first episode, watch
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it and then come back to listen to this podcast.
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Spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert.
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Before we get to any of that whatever app you're
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seconds just leave a rating or review something like that
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would help us continue to grow. You can also listen
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to a version of this podcast on ESPN ninety seven
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five Wednesday nights at seven pm. Jong I'll start with you, lanterns,
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what were your impressions of the first episode, Then we'll
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dive into more specific things from the show.
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Ah Man, there's some shows that you come across that
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you're highly anticipating, and it takes a couple of episodes
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to kind of jump in and kind of get immersed
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in the in the in the universe. But this one, man,
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you jump right in and I just after one episode,
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I don't know if they could have brought in two
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better people to play Hal Jordan and John Stewart. Kyle
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Chandler is such a underrated lead actor in the mostly
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I my first glimpse of him was from Friend of
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the at Lights, and he just carried that thing so well.
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And I'm glad that he's giving a given another like
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lead role in a TV show, and he's he's done
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such a good job. And you know the character of
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how Jordan it's a little different, but the core aspect
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of how Jordan is there. He's very cocky, no fear,
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like you know, like we got in the episode, and
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he's just kind of like kind of does his own
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thing and kind of tries to get He's results oriented,
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and you get the complete opposite with John Stewart. He's
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more in line and you know in the comics, he's
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very a confident person and he is outspoken, and he
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is in the TV show as well. So I man,
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I don't know, Like these two were casted very well.
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The first episode was a banger and ends up giving
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us a little preview what's going to happen in twenty
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twenty six. So yeah, this is I'm in love with
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the show already.
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Yeah, i'd same here. I really enjoyed the first episode.
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What about you, Shalis, what did you for overall impressions
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of the first episode. Then we'll dive into more specific stuff.
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Yeah, so I'm actually I'm in a very niche, down
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specific group. I'm one of the people who's not a
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very well versed on on DC characters, mainly a lot
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of the non.
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Tent poll ones like a dead Pool as a dead Pool.
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Like a like a Batman or a Superman. So this
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was new for me so and I love that experience
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of going and something being like new and you're only
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absorbing what you're seeing on screen, not like trying to
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compare any backstory or anything like that.
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So I had a very different.
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Experience and probably most people who are watching, and I
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love that.
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I didn't do any research prior.
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This was something I want to go in very very
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similar to how I have mentioned before on the podcast
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where I have been on this wave of not really
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watching full blown trailers, like I'll do a teaser if
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need be. But yeah, I went in like very very
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empty minded on this and I very much enjoyed it.
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I think that the way that they kick things off
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very much was very digestible. That was the best way
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that I could iterate how I felt about.
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The information that they were giving us.
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What they were like, you didn't have to know much
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to really like lock In and They and even before
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the end scene, which of course we'll talk about, but
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even before then, I was sold because I'm already invested
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on trying to figure out where where it is this going?
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How are we like how different are how and John
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going to be?
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Like where?
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Like where where are we navigating through this this season?
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Like what's the point?
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Not?
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I guess essentially what's the point, Like what are we doing?
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Of course you're checking out aliens, but where's it all?
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What's what's it all going to? Like I guess culminate
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to So I very much enjoyed it had some eyebrow
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raising moments for sure.
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Well, and it's interesting you bring up about like, you know,
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DC not being necessarily something you're super familiar with. But
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what the show I think does well is that, yeah
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is greenl Terns. But the core of it is this
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basically space cop mystery right Like it's it's it's done
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in a way to where I don't know that you
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have to be a big DC fan.
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It is very approachable. What about you, John?
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Because I felt that, like I could sit this down
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in front of most anybody and they'd be like, oh, yeah,
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this is interesting, Like this is like space Cops basically.
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Uh yeah, I mean I guess you could say this.
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I mean I think a lot of people drew this
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comparison when it was first announced with the synopsis and
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also then the trailer was, uh, you know, it's DC's
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version of True Detective, and I you know, I guess
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in some mass a lot of aspects it is. I guess,
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you know, since after one episode we can't tell, you know,
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we won't be able to tell which way like this
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is good. They're gonna go like deep into like like
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a true discussive type of style of TV show. Well,
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I guess that's for us to find out. But yeah,
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I think anybody can enjoy this, whether or not they
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you know, like DC or not. And you know, it's
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just the only thing is the ring and aliens is
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the only thing, right that separating this from kind of
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like a gritty buddy cop show.
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Right, and it helps that I think probably the biggest
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key to the success of that, besides you know, of
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course like oh it's cool because it's green lanterns and
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all this, and that. I think the dynamic between Aaron
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Pierre and Kyle Chandler is one of the biggest strengths
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of the first episode.
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You mentioned it earlier about like his.
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Hel's like arrogance, but also like I know, what I'm doing,
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sort of confidence that he holds and calling calling Colin
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John Stewart junior a lot of times, and talking about
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the training and like just that that little like bickering throughout.
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I really enjoyed it, and I think that's one of
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the core strengths of it. I don't know, what did
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you think, Sally.
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I think that I also when you pay attention to
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like their age, it made for me it made a
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lot more sense. Although he doesn't look it, which is
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very rare for men of his age to not look
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their age, but he is sixty years old.
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Colein Chandler is sixty.
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I think that all I could get with that more
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because on screen it looked like just two grown men.
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But like teaching someone in the ways.
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Or like calling them junior, or like treating them like,
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you know, like a little brother or little son, I
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think that matters on the outside when you're like, okay,
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their age is very different. So it's very much like
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it's not just about oh, I've experienced all this, so
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I'm gonna teach you my experiences. It's like, hey, I
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got double your age, son, so That's kind of how I.
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Looked at it.
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But I think they were very well casted, and as
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I spoke about in my mini little review, I think
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that is what locked me in because I love Ryan
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Reynolds and I actually am going on a rabbit hole
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on diving back into his stuff because I'm a big
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Ryan Reynolds fan.
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I've been Ryan REYLDS fan since.
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Two two ninety nine or two thousand, whenever he was
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on TV and whenever Green Lantern came out, I was
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sold because it was him. So I have the perfect
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example of the casting can lead you in, but if
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they don't really, like, you know, seal the deal with
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their portrayal, it can easily lose you.
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These two together, I was like, Oh, this is gonna
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be good. And I have trusted HBO and DC because
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of the Penguin, so they didn't let me down.
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And I was very very grateful that this.
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I was like, yes, finally, because I know people who
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are fan of Lanterns, like if this didn't do good
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or wasn't appealing, then it would have been like, hey,
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y'all need to just remove this character from our memory.
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Yeah, the core like they're back and forth in the car,
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the bar sequence, like just these different moments with them
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that really shine. And it goes back to I think
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what I was saying with you Jong the other day
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is that if you don't have that emotional core or
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those characters to care about at the end of the day,
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it's not gonna it's not gonna work, right, And and
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this seems to have worked so far with that, with
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that balance of those two, whether butting heads or having.
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Sort of a respect for each other kind of not.
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It's it's a little battle between the two, but it's
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an interesting battle so far.
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respect there kind of, yeah, kind of because you know
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how kind the one thing how plays outside the box
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and the way he works and all that stuff. But
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the one thing, as you could tell at the very
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end of the episode where I think his name, the
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character's name was Wayland's Sanders the alien, he starts saying
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the green lantern, what do.
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You call it?
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The like the creed, the motto the creed.
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Yeah, he starts saying it, and you could tell how
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is so pissed off that somebody else was saying it.
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And that's the one thing that he holds deer is
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the creed.
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And you know, he respects the ring, he respects the Guardians.
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He doesn't respect that.
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I don't think he respects the Guardians that they chose
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John to be a successor or right now trainee quote
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air quote Chraeney. But he has enough respect to bring
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John in and show him, kind of show him the
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ropes and kind of you know, show him how he
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carries himself and all that stuff. So there's that kind
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of respect, And I think John has respect that How
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is the Green Lantern currently, but also you could tell
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that John thinks How's a drunken idiot half the time.
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But he does respect the fact that he is the
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Green Lantern.
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And he's been looking up to him since he was
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a kid.
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You know, the episode opens in ninety six, and I
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was doing a lot of math. I wasn't expecting to
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do a lot of math at the beginning of this episode,
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because of course it opens in ninety six. The report
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says something to the effect of we didn't know Earth
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has been under his protection for ten years, going back
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ten years, so that goes back to nineteen eighty six.
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Then that means we jumped to twenty sixteen. That's a
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thirty years that Hal Jordan has been seemingly Green Lantern
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in this world, and he's been training John for two
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months at the time in twenty sixteen, and that underlying
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animosity of I assume the Guardians of Oh, the ones
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that are leading the Green Lantern Corps, are the ones
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that selected John Stewart. We really don't know that process
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fully as of yet, but there's some sort of underlying
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animosity between the two because from what House says, he
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got chosen similar to how he gets chosen in the comics.
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But I detect a.
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Little bit of a I don't know that I fully
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believe how Jordan when he's telling that story of how
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he got selected to take on the mantle of the Ring,
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did y'all get a sense of I don't know about that,
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or did y'all buy what what How was saying in
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the bar in that moment. I bought it, you bought it?
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I feel like there could be some further given.
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How the series, how the we're obviously not talking about
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it yet, but given how the how it ended, I
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feel like he could have not been telling the truth,
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which might have led to what happened at the end,
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But it wasn't something that immediately stuck out to be like, oh,
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he's lying. But now that you bring that up, I'm like, well,
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that is a possibility.
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That is a possibility given you know, the outcome.
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Because and maybe that it possibly kind of happens like
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he's saying, but maybe it's not just straight up because
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there is just again there is still some underlying butting
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of heads and how not being happy with having a
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trainee because he feels like he can he could still
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do the job. He's fine, he can totally continue to
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operate like like nobody else. But is it something to
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where maybe he was selected or maybe the ring came
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to him in a way that the Guardians never approved of.
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He talks about Earth being kind of like a backwater
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planet and not really like a focus of them. So
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I don't know that aspects curious and then of course,
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you know you, I mean, let's just get to it.
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By the end of the episode, how Jordan did he
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got shot? He's extra dead and on top of that,
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there is no ring in sight. The ring is gone.
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It doesn't look like John Stewart has it. It doesn't
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look like he has it on either of his hands
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that the big red flag, big cliffhanger to end the episode.
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And if you've watched Superman, then you know Guy Gardner
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has a ring and Guy is. I do like the
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fact that all three are very contrasting to each other.
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Guy is under the thumb of the government and Guy
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is Uh. Yeah, And in the previous you're gonna see
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I think it was a preview of the next episode, right,
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So we're gonna see Guy pretty soon, and it'll explain
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what maybe it'll I guess the rest of the season
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may focused on, like, uh, they'll do flashbacks between what
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ended up happening in in uh In Nebraska to not
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let John or how be Green Lantern, because you know,
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in the previous Guy says that you guys, you really
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mess it up up there in uh In Nebraska. And
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and we'll see why John basically gets bypassed to become
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Green Lantern and why Guy became Green Lantern. And maybe
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the rest of the season is focused on, uh, the
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death of of of of how Stewart's art, how Jordan's
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so Yeah, I uh, it definitely leaves you on the
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edge of your seat, and yeah, it makes you look
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forward to the rest of the season.
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I love the I love the the house Steward.
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It's funny that you mentioned in the ring. I have
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one that they gave us at Comic Con.
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We did like a lantern's activation, which I had that
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footage to post it.
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I was think about posted it.
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Next week, but I have that footage and I have
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the ring and it's not it's not no plastic ring,
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it's a solid ring.
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So nice.
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Yeah, they went all out for this, but I had
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a lot of faith in the rollout, seeing that they
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actually care about this project and had a lot of
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faith in it and the characters. But yeah, I think,
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on my the with the way that they ended it,
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I wasn't.
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I didn't.
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I didn't expect it at all. Like I didn't see
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that this was going to be like a, oh, who done.
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It going backwards? Like I didn't think that at all.
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So it is quite interesting to see that that's how
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they chose to kick things off.
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I think it definitely was a really good way to
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lock everyone in, at least to get them to the
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second episode and see But I think, who know, somebody
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somebody has seen I don't know, so I know somebody
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who's seen I think seven episodes. They were rolling out
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the episodes for press and they somebody has watched all
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seven or seven of them, I don't know how many total.
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And they mentioned they specifically mentioned the fifth one and
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they didn't say what they just said the fifth one,
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and like really ramps up, and I was like, oh, okay,
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Like so there's some I'm still not I'm still not
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sure where this is going. I'm excited to see where
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it goes, but I can't pinpoint like usually on the
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marble side.
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I you know, that's that's mine, my bread and butter.
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So I'm like, oh, I can see this happening. So
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so Michael, like you just already theorizing. I have no
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theories I am.
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I am empty minded. I am only being injected by
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what HBO feeds me. And I love that experience. I'm
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grateful for it.
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I am such a newcomer to this, this character, and
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I like that I didn't want to do any back
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back research and go backwards and check anything out. So
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there and oh and I'm I'm a sucker for that,
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like the lower thirds, like that mister Robot type of
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I love that that all centered shot every time I
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see that. I don't know what it is that draws
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me to it, but I love it because it's so different,
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and the cinematography on this is worth noting.
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You know, it's cruel to show press seven episodes when
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there's only eight.
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Yes, oh they do that.
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Oh they what did they do that with me? They
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did that with me on something.
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I thought it was usually like maybe half the season.
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No, no, ninety percent of the time, they'll give you
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the whole season. Ninety percent of the time, they'll give
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you the entire season. And I mean, I actually have
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to get through one now for Dark Matter, but it's
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they'll give you them them, but if there's something big
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that happens in the end, they don't want to risk
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that being spoiled, which is fair, especially in the comic space.
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You know, like you're you're not only just doing TV show,
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but you're doing in the comic space of where that
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can easily be like a leak and kind of you know,
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people tie stuff together. But they did that with me
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for Presumed Innocent, which makes sense because Presumed.
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Innocence by finale was like, who who is it.
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That killed the wife? Right, I mean the mistress? So yeah,
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it's it makes sense. But guys, like anybody who's listening
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who was on edge, like, oh, it's Green Lantern. This
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is one hundred percent a really good project. Whether it
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was Green Lantern or a different character, it's a good
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it's a good series.
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I hadn't considered, you know, going back to the Guy
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Gardner aspect, I hadn't considered Guy taking the ring like I.
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Just assumed, because like he is.
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I think in the comics he's some sort of like alien,
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and I forget what alien he is or you know
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what alien races from. But that does present a if
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it is Guy that just takes the ring. But well,
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but if I guess, let me think, I'm I'm processing
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it right now in my head because technically twenty twenty
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six is the year after Superman has happened in the timeline,
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so he would have already had the ring. So unless
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it was taken beforehand, I don't know. Like it's just
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Guy Gardner is going to be a lot more important
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than I thought he was going into the series.
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I think because John took a look at How's finger. Yeah,
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you know what, Guy would have been Green Lantern already
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00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:21.000
because at the end of the episode twenty twenty six
493
00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:26.640
is after the twenty twenty five Superman, right, and so like, yeah,
494
00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:28.720
so Guy would have been Green Lantern already.
495
00:24:28.759 --> 00:24:31.039
So is there a missing ring out there?
496
00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:34.559
It may be a missing ring then, because Guy the
497
00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:37.880
reason why there's two well, at least in the comic.
498
00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:39.920
You know, we still don't really like know the full
499
00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:43.319
gist of Guy Gardner in this universe. In the in
500
00:24:43.359 --> 00:24:45.559
the comic, he's some sort of alien that's supposed to
501
00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:48.440
operate somewhere else, but I forget why he operates on Earth.
502
00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:51.839
So well, I don't know. I know in the comics
503
00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:55.440
there's backups. Yeah, after Blantern's right, and I think Guy
504
00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:57.359
becomes Hal's backup.
505
00:24:57.759 --> 00:24:58.559
I think that's right.
506
00:24:58.640 --> 00:25:02.359
Yeah, yeah, so, uh because I think the Guardians ended
507
00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:06.599
up expanding their the Green Lambtern core. But yeah, I
508
00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:08.519
mean that's how the that's how it works in the comics.
509
00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:11.799
But the Guy becomes the backup and then and then
510
00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:14.559
and then they slowly bring in John Stewart later too.
511
00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:18.480
So yeah, it's uh, yeah, that's I didn't even consider that.
512
00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:21.960
I'm processing this as well, because because in the in
513
00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:25.440
the timeline, in the twenty twenty five he's already green lantern.
514
00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:28.799
If this is twenty twenty six and John doesn't know
515
00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:35.200
that John, I mean, if he's checking Hal's finger that
516
00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:38.440
he presumingly you would think that John thinks that how
517
00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:41.400
still is the green lantern, right right, and so he
518
00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:45.359
checks the finger. Nothing is there. That means we already
519
00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:47.599
have Guy Gardner. That means there is a missing ring.
520
00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:52.559
Which on that note, when he checks for his hand
521
00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:56.079
for the ring, I thought Aaron Pierre killed that scene
522
00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:59.720
because it's a little subtle thing that I didn't notice
523
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:03.039
right first. But he he has like one or two
524
00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:06.279
tears rolling down his face at the same time, and
525
00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:08.920
it's a quiet moment, but it's such an impactful moment.
526
00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:11.880
And Aaron Pierre, I again, I love that he's getting
527
00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:14.480
this shine because I you know, I've enjoyed him so far,
528
00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:16.480
like in Rebel Ridge and some of the other stuff
529
00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:18.519
he's done. I'm glad he's getting to shine in this
530
00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:23.519
in this series. But yeah, to present how Jordan in
531
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:27.039
this way, to have him die off in the first episode,
532
00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:32.599
and my assumption was, okay, well, John Stewart would have
533
00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:35.799
already been operating at some point during you know, whether
534
00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:39.400
it is during Superman but that also goes back to, oh,
535
00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:42.000
that's why John Stewart wasn't even operating because he didn't
536
00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:42.359
have the ring.
537
00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:47.319
Still, m oh, I didn't even think about I have
538
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:50.799
never even considered John Stewart being in a Superman space.
539
00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:52.680
Uh wow.
540
00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:55.799
Well, I to your point about Aaron's acting, I have
541
00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:58.640
to I have to honestly say, and not to be buddy,
542
00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:02.440
I'm glad that he is a I'm glad that he's
543
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:05.599
a that he's a good actor, and that he wasn't
544
00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:09.400
just popping up and going like going crazy in Hollywood,
545
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:12.000
not going crazy, but like popping up in all these projects.
546
00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:14.559
That he's very selective and meticulous about the projects he
547
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:18.519
appears in. And I'm glad because I never got around
548
00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:20.480
to seeing Rebel Ridge, which is it's on my list,
549
00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:21.920
but I never got around see it, So I haven't
550
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:23.559
really seen what he can do acting wise, but from
551
00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:24.960
everywhere I've seen all like, the man is.
552
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:26.079
Just absolutely stunning.
553
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:28.680
So it's like, I'm glad you have some talent and
554
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:31.160
are not out here just getting jobs because you look good.
555
00:27:31.400 --> 00:27:35.839
So he is a very like, he's a very calculated actor.
556
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:37.759
I like that he doesn't do too much when it's
557
00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:42.079
acting like he delivers his line, so like there's acting there,
558
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:45.000
but it's very subtle and he doesn't like overpower the
559
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:47.640
scenes he's And I think that that is the perfect
560
00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:50.559
thing that he could do when you're being taught something
561
00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:53.720
like when you're when you're someone's apprentice. I did not
562
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:56.960
catch on, And now that we're saying it, it might
563
00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:59.680
make sense. I didn't catch on to like the haligram.
564
00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:04.200
How sore we like, yeah, like, are we like led
565
00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:07.720
to believe that like he's that halogram is popping up
566
00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:10.279
because we know that he knows that he's dead, Like.
567
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:13.799
Yeah, because he starts freaking out, like what year is it?
568
00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:17.279
But is it simply because he's he's he hasn't been
569
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:19.960
backed up in a long time? Or is it something
570
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:22.920
more to it? Because he still gives him that like
571
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:25.680
the the what is it the line about uh, there's
572
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:29.240
a there's hail in rush Rushville, Nebraska or whatever.
573
00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:31.359
Yeah there's yes, yes, and he runs and he was
574
00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:33.160
like that means hall means aliens.
575
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:36.160
Right, right, So but he did give that, like that
576
00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:42.359
backup came years prior, so that means like, well, of
577
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:46.799
course that means it's also from his his time, supposedly
578
00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:50.359
when he got picked from being to being a green lantern.
579
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:54.599
So what whatever happens in Nebraska, something's up in Nebraska,
580
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:56.799
and apparently it stays in Nebraska's because we don't know
581
00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:59.319
a lot of it outside of outside of Nebraska.
582
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.119
I mean, if that if that message is years I mean,
583
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:06.680
if that message is years old, or the haligram, which
584
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:11.359
is very clever by the way, Yes, the halogram is
585
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:15.279
you know, years old. I mean, does that mean that
586
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:18.960
they're the hail has been in Nebraska for that long
587
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:22.319
or because like he wouldn't know that there. I don't know,
588
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:27.480
because like it's a recorded conscious of the past self.
589
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:28.880
Would he be able to.
590
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:35.519
Recognize aliens detect aliens from the haligram?
591
00:29:35.559 --> 00:29:38.440
Like I don't. I didn't fully understand how that worked.
592
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:41.400
Yeah, I'm confused by that as well, because if it
593
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:45.599
is a year old, year's old message, how would he
594
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:47.079
know about current stuff?
595
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:49.079
You know what I mean? Like I didn't understand it.
596
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:52.359
I do like the the usage of it because also
597
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:57.880
that allows how Jordan possibly to keep appearing around John
598
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:00.440
Stewart in the future, whether it is in a movie
599
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:03.640
or another season or whatever the case may be right.
600
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:06.319
This doesn't completely shut the door on how Jordan appearing,
601
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:09.519
but it does present some interesting aspects to it.
602
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:12.160
Also, I love.
603
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:15.000
John Stewart's your older self was much nicer or your
604
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.480
younger self was much nicer than Yeah.
605
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:20.920
He's I like their banter. I think it's not too overpowering.
606
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:23.440
I think it's you know, it's it's just the right amount.
607
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:26.119
But to the point of me bringing up Kyle's age,
608
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:28.119
which crazy because I didn't know that he was that old.
609
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:31.240
But I think that this is definitely setting up for
610
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:34.680
Airon for John Stewart to take the reins going forward.
611
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:35.920
Because I calling it what it is.
612
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:37.680
If this is what it is, like, this is really
613
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:39.240
we're just gonna get the hologram for the rest of
614
00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:40.640
the season. I can't see them trying to do that
615
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:42.559
in the next season, right, that's true.
616
00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:43.960
I really think that this was us.
617
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:47.279
Getting how and then him passing the torch, and then
618
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:49.359
if there is a season two, which seems like there
619
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:51.960
would be, it would be John Stewart going forward.
620
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:55.599
Yeah, John Stewart, Guy Gardner. And then this also speed
621
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:57.839
runs or not speed runs, but these this kind of
622
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:02.240
speeds up a possible Jessica Cruz appearance, yeah, you know
623
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.519
down the line. I mean there's a lot of lanterns
624
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:06.599
that you could, you know, basically kind of go through.
625
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:09.720
But I think I think David's a big fan of
626
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:12.640
Just Cruise, isn't he? I believe so yeah, yeah, so
627
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:15.319
you know, those people that are fans of like just
628
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:19.240
Cruise might get an appearance much much sooner than expected
629
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:24.799
and at first, you know, like I I do like
630
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:28.960
hal As Green lantern, and I think most people, if
631
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:31.880
you were to pull most people, I think How's probably
632
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.160
their best or favorite lantern just because of the personality.
633
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:38.319
I know, John is right there, right there with him
634
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:41.319
in terms of popularity, which kind of sucks because you know,
635
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:44.640
you're killing off Hal Jordan, But bringing in Guy Gardner
636
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:46.119
and John Stewart.
637
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:47.039
Is it's a good thing.
638
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:50.640
And to get justin Cruz probably sooner than rather sooner
639
00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:52.519
rather than later is a good thing as well. So,
640
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:55.599
but I think there's a lot of opportunity for Kyle
641
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:58.480
Chandler to come in. Obviously we will with slashbacks and
642
00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:01.680
stuff like that, and he's an amazing actor. And and
643
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:03.799
Aaron Pierre and this is a little off topic, but
644
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:06.759
Aaron Pierre, if he didn't if he did, if he
645
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:10.839
didn't do Rebel Ridge because John Boyega rapped out. He's
646
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:13.279
not Green Lantern. He's not John Stewart, which is crazy
647
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:17.640
to me. And another he's also played a different character
648
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:20.799
in the DC universe, not in James Gunns universe.
649
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:22.000
He was on Krypton. I didn't know that.
650
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:26.799
Oh, yeah, he played dev M. He was in twenty
651
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:28.079
twenty episodes of that show.
652
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:29.640
Oh, I didn't know he was in Krypton.
653
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:34.240
Yeah, he's very he's a very very slim in in
654
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:34.759
that show.
655
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:35.559
He's extraw.
656
00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:37.200
Oh he's a Starfighter.
657
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.920
Yeah, he's in Starfighter coming up. He's in everywhere. He
658
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:44.640
was supposed to be in Blade. But you know, man,
659
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:48.319
we don't. That's another podcast. We'll get to that. We'll
660
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:49.079
get to that later.
661
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:52.279
We see you know what. You know what it is John.
662
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:54.359
The reason why I noticed him in Krypton because he
663
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:55.400
don't look like he looked now.
664
00:32:57.279 --> 00:32:59.240
No, he's uh, he's bulked up.
665
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:00.720
He got didn't even a bulk.
666
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:04.519
It's the man got a haircut. A haircut will change
667
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:06.640
a man's life. You can go from a four to
668
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:08.400
a ten immediately with a haircut.
669
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:12.839
That's what this is. And I'll go it said further,
670
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:15.160
I don't have not I can honestly say I've not
671
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:17.480
seen him in many things. But the one thing he
672
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:19.279
was in and I did not know he was in was.
673
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.880
Old Oh yeah, I didn't know he wasn't that.
674
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:24.640
I didn't know that that was him in there. But
675
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:27.319
he's he's yeah, he's he's there. I think he's the boyfriend. Right,
676
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:30.039
there's like a couple that's there. He's the boyfriend. Didn't know,
677
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.119
But I'm glad that like he's getting like the shine
678
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:35.720
because he's a really good actor and we we need
679
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:38.400
more of that. And to speak on the culture as
680
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:40.319
far as when it comes to like black male actors
681
00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:43.039
like Denzel, somebody got to come back and replace Denzel
682
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:45.599
because we're not we we don't have a way.
683
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:47.400
I mean we have. All we got really is Michael B.
684
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:49.880
Jordan and what Damnseon Idris, Like of course we got
685
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:53.039
like John, but John Briega, and like we need more
686
00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:55.920
of that to keep the variety of the versatility and
687
00:33:56.720 --> 00:33:59.480
because ultimately there's gonna be roles and you can't just
688
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:01.640
keep replace in the same you know, rense and repeats
689
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:04.519
the same male actors. So I'm glad that he is
690
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:05.960
actually a good actor.
691
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:08.360
That's important because.
692
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:10.960
The way they just sometimes they throw people into roles,
693
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:13.239
especially in the superhero space, and they just don't fit.
694
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:15.760
This was a really good casting, and I am extremely
695
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:18.760
excited to see what they pull him into when it
696
00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:23.519
comes to Man of Tomorrow. Yeah, I'm now more excited
697
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:24.559
for Superman to be honest.
698
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:27.639
So, so I can't I mean, obviously I can't speak
699
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:32.639
on this because I'm not African American. I'm shocking a
700
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:37.840
little a little lighter on the yellower, yellower end yellow. Oh,
701
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:41.920
but when Aaron Pierre was casted, there was a little
702
00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:45.559
bit of upset fans from the African American side. It's
703
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:50.000
not darker, yes, So and also when Maya Boyd got
704
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:53.480
casted for Storm, there were pictures out there where, like
705
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:56.159
I guess, the lighting was very bright. Yeah, and so
706
00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:58.639
people were very upset that she was not, you know,
707
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.840
she was lighter and so and then I think that
708
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:04.039
the outrage kind of got backed up a little bit
709
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:07.039
when people said, no, no, she's actually darker than those
710
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:11.400
pictures because the lighting is very like it's too bright. Right, So,
711
00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:14.719
and you know, we're lucky to have you on to
712
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:17.320
kind of speak on this. Are you the type of
713
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:20.320
person that that this would matter to you when they
714
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:23.000
initially get casted, because you know, to me, I'm like,
715
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:26.239
he's a he's a good actor. But from my perspective,
716
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:29.119
if we were to do this uh To to Koreans
717
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:32.639
and Asians man black Panther, I love that movie, but
718
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:35.480
they did not cast any There's a there's a scene
719
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:39.000
where they're in Soul Korea, South Korea, and like you
720
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:41.360
could tell they're not Korean at all, and so like
721
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:44.719
that little part, you know, that little part was like, oh,
722
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.159
maybe you should have really cast the Koreans because those
723
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:50.719
that that that Korean attemptive Korean language that they were
724
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:53.559
speaking there was very bad. So I can speak on that,
725
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:57.000
but I can't speak on like John Stewart, Yeah, Pierre
726
00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:57.840
being casted in this.
727
00:35:58.039 --> 00:35:59.679
So two things on that.
728
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:01.400
I'm glad that you brought that up because I think
729
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:03.039
that is a very important conversation.
730
00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:05.039
So there's two there's two things to that.
731
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:10.440
There's an ethnicity part where you could be black and
732
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:13.039
it's like, Okay, this person's black checked off one box.
733
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:15.519
Are you dark enough? I don't get with that.
734
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:19.000
I don't get with that, because the point is to
735
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:23.119
be of the ethnicity of the character, to convey the character. However,
736
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:26.000
when it comes to Storm, if Storm is known for
737
00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:28.800
being a darker character and you go get a light skin,
738
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:32.360
like a completely light skinned person, that could potentially be
739
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:36.320
a problem because it's like it doesn't it's not trying
740
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:37.519
to say, hey, you're not black enough.
741
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:39.280
It's more so like, hey, we want you to really
742
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:39.719
look the.
743
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:44.440
Part, and part of looking the part is being the
744
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:48.840
it's being the ethnicity. So I think with Storm, I
745
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:50.440
get it, they want her to be a little bit darker.
746
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:51.920
So I think that's why Maya Boid works.
747
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:53.559
And you have to know, if there's one thing I
748
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:55.199
want to say about Maya Boid, I don't know nothing
749
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:57.320
about this woman, but I know that all she's done
750
00:36:57.440 --> 00:36:58.760
is like really like Broadway stuff.
751
00:36:58.760 --> 00:36:59.960
She's not big into screen.
752
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:02.199
So with that being said, you have to trust and
753
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:06.199
believe that Kevin Feigy and team have really vetted everybody
754
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:08.559
and that she was the best one, because her resume
755
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:11.280
doesn't add up to some of her competitors, so that
756
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:13.239
means that they she walked into that room, she did
757
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:15.800
her audition, and she absolutely crushed it and that's how
758
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:16.480
she got the role.
759
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:18.880
So that have a lot of faith in her for that.
760
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:20.519
But to your.
761
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:23.599
Point about the Korean aspect, that's how a lot of
762
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:26.880
people felt about Jennifer Lopez when she was cast as Selena.
763
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:29.480
And that's why I one hundred percent agree with you
764
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:32.360
on that aspect, because it's not just about looking the part,
765
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:35.079
but you also have to represent and part of Selena's
766
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:37.400
big culture was that she was her big steing was
767
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:40.719
she was Mexican. She was Mexican, and jimfil Lopez is
768
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:42.880
Puerto Rican. So you can't take a part of a
769
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:45.840
character and water it down just because the you know,
770
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:49.760
the actress isn't of that ethnicity.
771
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.679
So I do believe that you have to look the part.
772
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:55.480
For the how Jordan thing, I mean, sorry for the
773
00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:56.400
John Stewart thing.
774
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.400
I can see, I can see people being upset, I mean,
775
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:03.199
but I do believe that we we have to there
776
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:05.119
has to be like a collective thing of hey, if
777
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:06.719
you're gonna cast someone in the role, they have to
778
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:08.679
be as close as possible to.
779
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:11.440
The you know what.
780
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:14.639
You know what, that's kind of hard to say because
781
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:18.119
Spider Man is American and Toby the only American one.
782
00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:21.239
So you know what, I can't. I can't say that
783
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:23.360
I can't. I think you have to really really look
784
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:26.159
the part. But if any part of the character involves
785
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:28.880
ethnicity or background, then you.
786
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:30.159
Have to you have to appeel to that too.
787
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:32.119
And that's where the jennifil Lopez one really gets me,
788
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:35.519
because she Telena was really big on the Mexican culture
789
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:37.199
and Jennfilopez is just simply not.
790
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:39.719
But like Spider Man or something, yeah.
791
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:41.960
I guess, yeah, I guess in this case, there wasn't
792
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:43.760
really like a you know a problem with.
793
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:46.000
That, Like I feel like people can't. You have to.
794
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:48.239
You have to carry that weight on both sides. You
795
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:50.119
can't pick and choose when you want to apply that rule.
796
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:52.840
I think when it comes to I get why people
797
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:54.159
would feel that way about John Stewart.
798
00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:57.400
Yeah, it makes sense. It doesn't bother me, but I
799
00:38:57.400 --> 00:38:58.599
can see I can see.
800
00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:00.760
That and the oh sorry, one last thing.
801
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:06.760
Aaron Pierre Jeff John's run of John Stewart's Green Lantern.
802
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:12.800
He aside from him being a shade lighter, looks just
803
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:16.840
like John Stewart. So I don't know where that line
804
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:21.559
is and I'm not very that that knowledge in John
805
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:25.079
Stewart Green Lantern. So I can't sit here and speak
806
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:28.920
on that. But if if that, if the color of
807
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:34.599
his skin matters in terms of him being Green Lantern,
808
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:39.960
then I think that should have been in consideration. But
809
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:43.320
I don't know if you're James Gunn, I don't know
810
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:45.239
if you can hire anybody that was as hot as
811
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:48.760
Ann Pierre was when they were casting for for Lanterns. No,
812
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:51.599
I'm saying like career career wise, he was like he.
813
00:39:51.639 --> 00:39:52.199
Was on fire.
814
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:55.159
Yeah, like because that was like we're talking like a
815
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:59.119
one off, random not an ip I don't you know,
816
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:03.000
just a random movie and it just did numbers, but
817
00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:05.760
it drew you in because again I didn't watch it,
818
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:07.360
but I knew why everybody was talking about it because
819
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:07.679
he was.
820
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:08.559
Very, very attractive.
821
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:12.639
But then like the dialogue was very how we speak now,
822
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:14.519
and then people went and watched it was like, oh,
823
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:17.679
this is great. So I remember when people were talking
824
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:19.719
about that movie a lot and knew I think they did.
825
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:22.440
That was a really big thing of throwing him further
826
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.199
on the map because being associated with like Krypton and
827
00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:28.039
all those things, but yeah, being being put on the
828
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:30.519
map like that for a movie, a random Netflix movie
829
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:31.280
that that's a big.
830
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:31.880
Deal, you know that.
831
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:35.159
And he was the voice of Move Faster. So yeah,
832
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:37.199
yeah that. I think both those came out in the
833
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:37.639
same year.
834
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:40.159
That he still looks like Mofosa to me, Like I
835
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:43.360
still he just carries himself.
836
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:45.760
I don't know, he does have a certain way he
837
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:47.119
carries it, carries himself.
838
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:48.960
I do, I do kind of.
839
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:52.119
Just before we move on completely, I do want to
840
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:55.199
use this moment to comment on white people. We got
841
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:58.800
to stop saying, well, not all white people, but certain
842
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:02.760
white people. We gotta stop saying about like when they
843
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:06.960
get upset about switching character races and things like that
844
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:10.159
for for new characters. A lot of the times they
845
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:13.599
use the the black panther example, you gotta stop because
846
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:15.239
that's that's an integral.
847
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.400
Part to the characters, to the character.
848
00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:20.679
In the comments, yeah, there's one hundred percent, there's always
849
00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:23.159
somebody will oh, what if they would get mad if
850
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:26.880
we cast Ryan Gosling. No, that's stop it, that's racist.
851
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:31.440
Stop it. There there are characters where their ethnicity are
852
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:34.440
integral to who they are, But there are other characters
853
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:38.159
that are just characters that you can change it up
854
00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:41.599
whether it is a gender, whether it is a ethnicity,
855
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:44.599
or whatever the case. But like somebody like Storm, there
856
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:47.840
is a certain ethnicity to that character that you need
857
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:51.320
to replicate on screen. And same thing with Black Panther
858
00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:53.119
and some of these other characters. So I just wanted
859
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:55.760
to say that because there it's old white people that
860
00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:58.199
just be saying that, and I'm just like, I just
861
00:41:58.239 --> 00:41:58.920
want to smack them.
862
00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:00.000
I just want to smack them one time.
863
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:04.119
Yeah, it's like Miles Morales that the him being you know,
864
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:07.719
half black and half Puerto Rican is a big deal.
865
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:10.480
Yes, yeah, because because the character, that's what I'm that
866
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:11.480
is the perfect example.
867
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:14.119
When the character's story.
868
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:17.920
Or something about it taps heavily into their culture, you
869
00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:18.480
have to pee.
870
00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:20.559
That's that's why the Selena one hits. That's why I
871
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:21.559
can't say Spider.
872
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:24.400
Man, because you know they're not we're not all you know, well,
873
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:26.079
hold on, wait a minute, doesn't he's the big part
874
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:27.199
of him is being from New York.
875
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:29.480
Okay, that's well, it's not the culture. It's not the culture.
876
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:31.639
It's not the culture. So yes, the Miles Morales thing
877
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:32.760
is a big is a big deal.
878
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:35.480
I don't know if you're gonna go find no black
879
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:37.880
Puerto Rican that can look like.
880
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:39.519
That's a lot of boxes to check off.
881
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:41.519
Sometimes they just go with, hey, this person looks like
882
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:44.559
them and that's good enough. Like it gets complicated the
883
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:46.519
more mixed of the melting pot we get, which I
884
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:49.159
think is very you know, I can't expect someone to
885
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:51.039
go find someone to play me, like if someone want
886
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:53.440
to play a black, half black, half Japanese person that
887
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:56.679
speaks Spanish, like, You're not gonna find somebody so that
888
00:42:57.000 --> 00:42:57.599
looks like me.
889
00:42:57.800 --> 00:42:58.800
Like, so I think it starts to.
890
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:02.519
Get real hard to pick it to pinpoint to be
891
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:04.880
exactly like that character. I just think I really think
892
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:07.159
it's important that you look the most like the character
893
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:11.440
and ideally be of that ethnical background.
894
00:43:11.519 --> 00:43:13.159
I can't say like, oh, what's their religion.
895
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:14.960
Oh, you're not the same religion as Peter Parker, so
896
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:16.360
you can't be like, we're not going to get that
897
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:20.840
technical with it. But yeah, that conversation is a very
898
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:24.039
interesting one because of the fact that a lot of
899
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:27.320
these actors are like Tom Holland and Andrew Garford, like
900
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:28.280
they're they're British.
901
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:31.719
Yeah, can you imagine the outrage if they hire if
902
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:35.840
they cast a black British actor for Miles Morales.
903
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:37.079
Can you imagine.
904
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:41.920
I mean even even Aaron is Aaron is from somewhere.
905
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:43.880
He's not an American.
906
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:50.480
Yeah, he's British and is it Jamaican.
907
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:54.559
I gotta get this right.
908
00:43:55.119 --> 00:44:00.599
We're googling now graduated from the Black Caribbean and West Africa.
909
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:03.800
He's a British actor that's Black Caribbean and West African.
910
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:08.920
So his heritage includes krooakean Jamaican and Sierra Leone roots.
911
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:12.400
And he was born in England. So he has an accent,
912
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:14.639
you know, like he has an accent. But I mean, yeah,
913
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:16.639
this is.
914
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:17.920
Very interesting, which that caught me off guard at the
915
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:20.480
in the at the end of the episode, I forgot
916
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:23.679
that he has an accent, an English accent.
917
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:25.840
I was like, oh, yeah, that's right. I forget every time.
918
00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:27.639
Because he's so good, Like I just think, you know
919
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:29.679
when he's doing because like Rebel Ridge and now this
920
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:30.440
like what.
921
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:32.599
Happened at the end of the accent, I meant, well,
922
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:33.000
they do.
923
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:34.280
Like that behind the episode.
924
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:35.559
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
925
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:37.519
So then they talked to the cast, they talked to
926
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:40.599
the creators for I think this one was pretty short,
927
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:43.239
but it's like three minutes, but still like they talked
928
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:45.599
to him, and when they talked to him, it was like, oh, yeah,
929
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:46.880
that's right, he's he's English.
930
00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:50.199
Yeah, and then you get you get the reverse when
931
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:53.280
you watch like a Game of Thrones thing when everyone's British. Yeah,
932
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:56.400
Like for Game of Thrones they would interview Peter Dinklish
933
00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:57.760
and he has a he's an American.
934
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:03.760
Yeah, damn minute, that's funny.
935
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:05.280
That's accurate. That's very accurate.
936
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:06.599
Uh.
937
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:09.639
Since we're talking about backgrounds, I want to go back
938
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:13.840
to John Stewart's background in terms of you know, the
939
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:14.639
opening edition.
940
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:18.440
Yeah, thank you, thank you. I try. I want to
941
00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:18.960
get back.
942
00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:24.920
To the beginning because I do find it interesting that like,
943
00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:27.719
at first, you know, they play it like that the
944
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:30.199
dad's going to be very mad at John for staying
945
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:33.400
up or watching How Jordan or whatever the case, and
946
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:36.559
then it takes a like a oh, just he just
947
00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:38.840
shot an apple off this kid's head and apparently does
948
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:41.960
that like all the time. But then it's you know,
949
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:46.760
are you afraid no, and he's almost like Dad's like happy, warrant,
950
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:49.199
let's go get a burger or something like that. Has
951
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:53.000
am I to read because also he talked he talks
952
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:55.320
to dad later on in twenty sixteen over the phone
953
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:59.760
about what how Jordan is doing? Has dad been training
954
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:03.400
on since he was a kid to become green Lantern?
955
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:06.400
Is that what I'm supposed to read from that sequence
956
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:09.119
at the beginning? And as we continue on in the episode,
957
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:10.320
what if his.
958
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:12.920
Dad was training him to take out John take out how?
959
00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:14.679
Oh I didn't expect that.
960
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:17.599
Yeah, I mean, you know, there was a lot of
961
00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:20.719
mixed signals there because his brothers are definitely afraid of
962
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:24.239
their dad, and you're kind of thinking, like the dad
963
00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:29.679
comes home and he's one probably drunk, two gonna take
964
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:35.000
belt to ask and yeah, and three possibly break the TV.
965
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:37.800
And because I mean the way that they were on
966
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:39.639
the lookout and oh, you know, you gotta turn off,
967
00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:40.280
you gotta turn off.
968
00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:42.559
He's about to be home John, turn it off, turn
969
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:44.719
it off. And he comes into the house.
970
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:50.360
One he didn't look dronk, you know, takes John outside
971
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:52.880
and then he's then you get a clearer picture of
972
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:55.480
what he's wearing. He's in a you know, in a
973
00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:59.239
military uniform, and you're like, oh, okay, takes a gun
974
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:02.639
out and you're kind of like, uh, okay, and if
975
00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:04.960
John puts an apple on his head, and so this
976
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:07.079
whole is a scenario place and then he gives him
977
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:09.719
a hug, and I'm like, wait, what is going on?
978
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:11.840
And so like there was a lot of I don't
979
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:14.679
know like that that that it was confusing a little bit.
980
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:19.360
And I guess that the theory of him prepping him
981
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:23.159
to become through Green Lantern, I guess kind of makes sense.
982
00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:27.599
But why But why were his brothers deathly afraid of
983
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:28.599
their dad?
984
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:30.079
It was what he was watching.
985
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:33.000
It was more so like not hey, dad's coming home,
986
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:35.599
like they're scared. I think that's why I really feel
987
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:38.960
like it was about It was about how in particular,
988
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:41.360
like because he's like looking he's almost like watching.
989
00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:42.079
It, admiring him.
990
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:44.480
Yeah, and he's probably like, yo, I'll cut that off.
991
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:46.679
Like because your dad is obviously Dad is training you
992
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:48.199
to kill this guy, why are you sitting here like
993
00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:50.800
enamored with him, you know, like you're looking up to him.
994
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:52.760
That's what That's what I took from that was like, hey,
995
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:55.079
we're not supposed to be watching this this guy, like.
996
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:57.079
You're I need you to take him out or something.
997
00:47:57.360 --> 00:47:59.840
Mm hmm, Okay, I mean I guess that that if
998
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:02.360
you if you look from it from that perspective, it
999
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:04.400
makes sense because said if you look.
1000
00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:08.679
At it from the wrong perspective, I guess because also too,
1001
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:12.559
like he says something about his name, and you know,
1002
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:14.920
he's watching it so intently you would imagine he would
1003
00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:17.760
have got how Jordan's name, but he's like how something,
1004
00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:20.519
and I was like, hmmm, is he trying to.
1005
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:22.719
Hide the fact that he was watching it. It doesn't.
1006
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:25.119
It's it's a weird, like but interesting thing. And then
1007
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:27.679
if you go back to twenty sixteen, you know, he's
1008
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:29.559
talking on the phone with his dad and he's telling
1009
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:33.119
him about what just happened with the car situation, and
1010
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:35.800
he's trying to his dad tells him he's trying to
1011
00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:38.000
get you on tilt, like he's trying to mess with you.
1012
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:41.719
And one of the coldest lines in this whole episode,
1013
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:44.280
they're allowed to have tantrums, we're not.
1014
00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:47.480
And that's such a layered line that I'm just like,
1015
00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:49.079
that's that was clean.
1016
00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:52.480
But Dad knows full well about the green lanterns, He
1017
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:56.840
knows about everything. Does Dad seemingly have more of a
1018
00:48:56.960 --> 00:49:00.000
history with how Jordan than we are led to believe
1019
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:03.920
like maybe there is if How Jordan's been on a
1020
00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:08.320
test flight since the eighties or whatever. This is just
1021
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:12.320
clicking in my head. Could the dad have been in
1022
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:19.320
line possibly to get the ring, and how somehow gets
1023
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:21.320
in the way and takes it from the dad. Maybe
1024
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:25.039
that's why there's some animosity between the dad and how Jordan.
1025
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:25.519
Maybe.
1026
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:27.800
Yeah, I'm a thousand percent and I'm glad this is
1027
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:30.079
recorded because I definitely will pull this clip later when
1028
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:34.119
this series is over. I definitely genuinely believe that. I mean,
1029
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:36.880
my bet is that he's training his son to take.
1030
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:39.559
Out How Jordan's interesting, which would.
1031
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:42.719
Explain why his demeanor is so dry and like, you know,
1032
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:45.800
he's real like the guy mentioned earlier his delivery Aaron's
1033
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:48.440
delivery of John of being like John Stewart is real,
1034
00:49:48.559 --> 00:49:51.639
Like it's real dry and just kind of like like
1035
00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:54.000
just I'm there. I'm not saying he get that personality,
1036
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:56.239
but he's really like a man on a mission. I'm
1037
00:49:56.280 --> 00:49:57.320
here to do a job like.
1038
00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:00.840
That's it well like and he says too earlier. I
1039
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:03.400
think it's how says to him, your yes sirs are
1040
00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:06.360
like f U's and it's it's very much like I'm
1041
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:09.880
going by the book, I'm being respectful, but it's it's
1042
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:11.960
there's a certain way you say yes sir to people,
1043
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:15.679
and those yes sirs are like, yeah, yes sir. You know,
1044
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:18.679
there's a certain tone that that John Stewart has with
1045
00:50:18.719 --> 00:50:23.360
them that is a little disrespectful, not fully, like on surface,
1046
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:26.679
not fully, but there is some something there. So I
1047
00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:30.159
wonder if the dad has been grooming him to take
1048
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:31.920
on how for for however long?
1049
00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:35.760
And then from the other perspective, like it's it's pretty
1050
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:41.039
disrespectful to in in to be late like that when
1051
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:46.159
you're you know, training somebody, Yeah, and to be drunk
1052
00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:49.440
slash hungover when you're training somebody, So that that in
1053
00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:51.880
that aspect, I could see why he's telling him to
1054
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:53.480
go f himself, right m hm.
1055
00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:56.639
And is he doing is how like trying to go
1056
00:50:56.760 --> 00:51:00.360
to him into doing something? You know, like, yeah, he's
1057
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:02.239
trying to go to him. But you know, of course
1058
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:05.920
everyone's like, how there's no way that these people will
1059
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:09.079
be aliens, And he's dead set on these people being aliens.
1060
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:11.480
And sure enough, by the end he's proven that's right
1061
00:51:11.519 --> 00:51:15.360
with the dude blowing up in the jail. I don't
1062
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:19.719
the word manhunter is thrown at some point during this episode,
1063
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:22.400
I believe, or unless it's in the trailers, but I'm
1064
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:25.000
pretty sure that manhunter is thrown around in this episode.
1065
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:30.960
And if we're dealing with shape shifting, possibly aliens that
1066
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:34.400
can beat any sort of scan, MRI, blood test, whatever
1067
00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:38.800
it may be, I'll go to Ujong. Is this a
1068
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:42.320
possibility of like green Martians white Martians like that angle?
1069
00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:47.559
I know there's Manhunter droids or robots or something that
1070
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:49.840
are like a police force that we're supposed to replace
1071
00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:53.079
the Green Lantern Corps at some point, but this feels
1072
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:57.079
more organic based. Could we be looking at something more
1073
00:51:57.159 --> 00:51:59.519
like Martian green Martian white Martians sort of thing?
1074
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:00.599
I think so.
1075
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:04.440
And I think they're probably just layering, uh so in
1076
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:06.719
the Seeds for the future, but also in the in
1077
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:09.840
this show, I would imagine this is possibly the route
1078
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:13.000
that they're going to be taking. And yeah, I don't know,
1079
00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:17.880
like if you're going to bring in Manhunters and and
1080
00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:21.719
this is different Martian Manhunter, John Jones and and and
1081
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:26.280
Manhunters are are they're Martians, They're different, right, right? So
1082
00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:29.559
that also opens the door for John Jones to possibly
1083
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:32.239
come in in the in the near future. But yeah,
1084
00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:35.079
in terms of this, like, yeah, I think, yeah, I
1085
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:37.239
think that's kind of like the prevailing theory, isn't it.
1086
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:38.679
I think so.
1087
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:40.599
I'm not like one hundred percent sure because I haven't
1088
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:44.320
done too much research on it beforehand, but just after
1089
00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:47.639
watching the episode last night, it feels like it could
1090
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:49.679
be that. And then there's a scene that's in like
1091
00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:54.000
the upcoming this upcoming season where you see one of
1092
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:56.920
the aliens transform and it it just reminded me so
1093
00:52:57.039 --> 00:53:00.360
much of like of what like the White Martian would
1094
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:02.280
do in the show, or the Green Martians would do
1095
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:05.159
in like the animated series or comics or anything like that. Chalise,
1096
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:07.480
I don't know if you're up on Green Martians versus
1097
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:09.280
White Martians, but there's a whole.
1098
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:12.719
Thing I I'm not but to you to your point
1099
00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:15.679
about where they, like, the conversation has been going because
1100
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:18.800
I've been trying to like keep up and like understand
1101
00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:21.679
like what they're gonna do with the.
1102
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:23.280
Movies, like how they're gonna tie into the movie.
1103
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:26.440
So to your point about the Manhunter aspect, I know
1104
00:53:26.519 --> 00:53:28.519
that the teaser like brought up right that there was
1105
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:31.960
like some like war criminal from an alien war criminal
1106
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:34.599
that was hiding out in Nebraska, right, Like he's so
1107
00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:39.079
that's what they're trying to track down. But I mean,
1108
00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:41.960
isn't that if isn't like the Manhunters is like, uh,
1109
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:45.239
they were they went rogue or something like.
1110
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:49.280
They were, yeah, the robot like the robot ones go
1111
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:53.079
rogue at some point. So but if if we're talking
1112
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:57.039
war and we're talking about aliens in this sense, there
1113
00:53:57.159 --> 00:54:00.360
is the Green Martians versus White Martians, like a civil
1114
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:03.880
war basically happening on Mars, and there's a whole thing
1115
00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:06.559
with them coming to Earth, and you know, it's a
1116
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:08.119
whole thing. It's a deep dive that you have to
1117
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:11.519
go into. So it's like, what version of Manhunters are
1118
00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:14.159
we talking about in this series? Is still kind of
1119
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:17.920
the big question. What I saw in this first episode
1120
00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:21.199
makes leads me to go the route of Green Martians
1121
00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:24.480
White Martians because it also feels like, you know, they
1122
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:27.559
make a point about the war criminal and aliens and
1123
00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:32.159
Garrett Dilla Hunt's character, I think it's William Mancin you
1124
00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:35.400
know about he has those lines about colonization and being
1125
00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:38.719
on the other end of colonization and he's not a
1126
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:40.719
big fan of aliens and whatnot.
1127
00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:43.079
To me, it's making us believe that.
1128
00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:47.159
The aliens are going to be the villains, when in actuality,
1129
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:49.880
it's going to be William Mankin. He just Garrett Dilla
1130
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:52.880
Hunt always gives off villain vibes, especially in something like this.
1131
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:56.480
It feels like there could be some sort of villain turn,
1132
00:54:56.559 --> 00:54:58.679
which makes me think if we are talking about that,
1133
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:03.079
usually Green Martians, well, I guess it depends what version
1134
00:55:03.320 --> 00:55:06.920
they go with, but usually there's some sort of someone's
1135
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:10.480
bay like labeled a war criminal. When they're not, you know,
1136
00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:12.239
it could be something along those lines.
1137
00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:16.639
Yeah, And I mean, if they're quite aggressive, we're probably
1138
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:20.760
talking white Martians. Green Green Martians does open the door
1139
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:25.199
up for John Jones and possibly, I don't know, maybe
1140
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:26.639
in Superman Man of Tomorrow.
1141
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:30.000
Yeah, that theory makes a lot of sense.
1142
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:34.159
Which what do y'all think of William Mankin and the
1143
00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:38.039
Mancon family, Because you know, when they show up, it's
1144
00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:40.679
like a compound and of course it's a militia out
1145
00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:41.800
in the middle of nowhere.
1146
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:44.320
Didn't it kind of remind you of man?
1147
00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:44.679
What is that?
1148
00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:46.679
What's that show on?
1149
00:55:48.679 --> 00:55:49.119
Oh?
1150
00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:51.559
The Western Deadwood?
1151
00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:52.000
No?
1152
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:54.719
No, no, no, no, no, no, not the it's like a man,
1153
00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:59.559
it's a really popular Yellowstone Yellowstone. Yes, I've always seen
1154
00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:02.400
a couple of episodes of Yellowstone. But when you get
1155
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:05.400
on that ranch, like if you're not from if they
1156
00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:08.920
don't recognize you, they they they give you that eye
1157
00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:11.079
and they kind of like sit there on their horse.
1158
00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:13.679
You're kind of like, uh. It kind of reminded me
1159
00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:14.440
of that a little bit.
1160
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:15.840
Man.
1161
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:19.039
I love Kelly McDonald. I love everything that she's She's
1162
00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:22.519
a fantastic actress. Whenever she was in Boardalk Empire, I
1163
00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:25.280
thought like she was like the best best best actress
1164
00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:29.400
slash actor on that show, and so like seeing her
1165
00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:33.119
in something much bigger, in one of the bigger shows now,
1166
00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:35.519
I think it's a it's a blessing, and I think
1167
00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:39.559
she's a fantastic actress. She's done smaller projects here and there.
1168
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:44.440
She was mereda and brave. But yeah, I think the.
1169
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:51.559
Jason Ritter being Billy versus her Sheriff, it doesn't it
1170
00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:52.840
doesn't seem like it matches.
1171
00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:56.639
I had the same thought. I had the same thought.
1172
00:56:57.039 --> 00:56:58.559
I think she was a grandma and you over here
1173
00:56:58.639 --> 00:56:59.559
Clapp and Grandma.
1174
00:56:59.360 --> 00:57:03.559
Jesus crazy it's funny because Jason, I think it's only
1175
00:57:03.639 --> 00:57:05.960
like a year or two younger than Kelly McDonald uh
1176
00:57:06.039 --> 00:57:08.760
in real life. But its just like it didn't match,
1177
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:11.559
the personalities didn't match. And then when you saw Dad,
1178
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:13.239
you're kind of like, Okay, I could see where Billy
1179
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:15.719
gets his you know, Billy, where Billy is Billy, but
1180
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:19.679
like the marriage seems a little weird to me. But
1181
00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:20.360
but yeah, but.
1182
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:21.119
They might not be real.
1183
00:57:21.559 --> 00:57:23.039
Yeah, it might not be true.
1184
00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:26.599
And so yeah, I think William macon Is is definitely
1185
00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:27.719
someone to keep your eye on.
1186
00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:30.679
Yeah, I was to what you were asking before about
1187
00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:33.119
like the plot where it could go is it is
1188
00:57:33.159 --> 00:57:38.280
the James gun conversation still happening when they're about Planet Salvation.
1189
00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:42.079
Oh yeah, from a Peacemaker.
1190
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:44.559
Peacemaker season two, because that's how it ended, right like it? Yea,
1191
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:50.320
So maybe that they're possibly, you know, tracking any I mean,
1192
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:51.920
I don't know if it's you're tracking anybody down I
1193
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:53.719
got out from there or they trying to put them there.
1194
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:56.199
But from my understanding, if there was conversations before with
1195
00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:59.599
James Gunn where he is trying to he has this
1196
00:57:59.639 --> 00:58:02.719
big so he knows that he's trying to tie everything together.
1197
00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:05.000
So that's why everything that comes out, I feel like
1198
00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:07.760
it's very meticulous and calculated, Like how at one point
1199
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:09.639
Marvel was like dumping all these shows and it kind
1200
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:12.639
of back scaled back and focused on quality over quantity.
1201
00:58:12.920 --> 00:58:15.079
I think James Gun is definitely trying to focus on
1202
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:16.039
quality right now.
1203
00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:18.480
So I genuinely believe that he's trying.
1204
00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:20.840
To build his own world of I want to say multiverse,
1205
00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:24.760
but his own like team of projects that all kind
1206
00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:27.920
of tie into to each other. And I think that
1207
00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:31.199
this might possibly tie into Peacemaker in some way, shape
1208
00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:31.599
or form.
1209
00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:35.559
Well, it could be a situation where you know whether
1210
00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:38.079
whether these aliens turn out to be Martians or not.
1211
00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:42.000
Maybe these aliens are trying to escape wherever they're coming
1212
00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:45.599
from because of Brainiac. Brainiac we know is coming next year.
1213
00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:48.800
We know what Brainiac tends to do when he hits
1214
00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:52.519
a world. So maybe there's something along those lines of
1215
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:56.320
why aliens are coming to Earth to seek refuge from Brainiac.
1216
00:58:56.480 --> 00:58:59.440
Maybe that's where you get your tie into the bigger universe.
1217
00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:01.599
That's possible.
1218
00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:10.559
Yeah, mic Drop, I'm glad you brought up the dynamic
1219
00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:13.440
between those two jong because I had the same exact thought.
1220
00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:17.320
I thought some of the like Kelly's perfect as the
1221
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:21.199
character she is, but like I don't know, Jason Ridder's fine,
1222
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:23.960
but just the dynamic between the two And of course
1223
00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:26.880
this is years into their relationships, so maybe it's you know,
1224
00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:29.199
dissolved in some ways. But at the same time, it
1225
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:32.679
just never felt like a couple. It feels like she's
1226
00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:36.960
almost prisoner in this Mankin family, and maybe that's part
1227
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:41.880
of why she why it's portrayed in this way. The yeah,
1228
00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:47.719
the grandma clapping. I was not expecting. Uh. I also
1229
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:50.559
was not expecting, Like this is one of the creepiest lines.
1230
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:54.519
Nothing's nothing better than eating off another man's grill, Like, oh.
1231
00:59:54.679 --> 00:59:56.519
Yeah, eating meat off another man's grill.
1232
00:59:56.559 --> 01:00:00.880
I was like, all right, all right, all right, this
1233
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:05.800
took this took a weird turn. But how Jordan impressive?
1234
01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:09.280
He says, impressive, that's my that's.
1235
01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:13.159
What he was like, you might have but I definitely say,
1236
01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:15.239
twenty four hours, well.
1237
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:17.400
And you look like well.
1238
01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:20.159
Done, well done.
1239
01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:20.760
Uh.
1240
01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:23.760
And then and then that probably probably means that if
1241
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:26.679
Zoe told William that they slept together, or somehow he
1242
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:29.400
found out or somehow she was planted at that bar,
1243
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:33.280
then you probably it probably know that they probably know that,
1244
01:00:33.559 --> 01:00:36.760
you know, they knew that both you know, John Stewart
1245
01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:39.840
and how Jordan were in Nebraska and they and William knew,
1246
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:42.480
you know, that they were coming. I would imagine, so
1247
01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:47.320
there's a bigger scheme. Yeah, you know, so I think
1248
01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:52.480
William kind of is he's kind of playing chess with
1249
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:54.519
them a little bit, and he kind of has one
1250
01:00:54.519 --> 01:00:55.039
step ahead.
1251
01:00:55.079 --> 01:00:57.559
I feel like, yeah, he could he could be presenting
1252
01:00:57.599 --> 01:01:02.280
this goof your persona and it's actually like playing chess.
1253
01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:05.719
And because I hadn't considered the aspect of maybe she
1254
01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:08.679
was planted there in the bar before.
1255
01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:11.239
I thought that, Yeah, because because that's not She's not,
1256
01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:13.039
he's They just don't seem like they're too.
1257
01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:14.760
People are gonna talk like they just she's there to
1258
01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:15.320
do her own thing.
1259
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:17.880
He's're like, you know that seemed like she was very
1260
01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:19.000
calculated and plotted on.
1261
01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:21.960
Yeah, and then the way that William was like cutting
1262
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:23.960
those ribs, he was chomping those.
1263
01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:26.960
And they kept they kept focusing on that. That's why
1264
01:01:26.960 --> 01:01:28.039
I was like, something's off.
1265
01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:29.199
Yep, yep, yeap.
1266
01:01:29.320 --> 01:01:31.760
Red flags right, if if you show up to a
1267
01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:34.360
barbecue and anybody's chopping ribs like that, that's a that's
1268
01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:35.039
a red flag.
1269
01:01:36.360 --> 01:01:36.599
Yep.
1270
01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:38.800
So they Yeah, I don't think they're right, yeah, yea, yeah,
1271
01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:43.000
it's like doing it like it was like unhumane, inhumane.
1272
01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:44.480
I think it's a word. That's a better word.
1273
01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:49.039
Hum uh I guess before we wrap up, what did
1274
01:01:49.079 --> 01:01:52.320
y'all think of the interrogation scene? John, you you brought
1275
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:56.880
it up earlier about how once the alien hypothetically uh
1276
01:01:56.960 --> 01:02:00.719
alien starts bringing up the lantern creed, he starts like
1277
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:05.360
really pushing in on and really making how Jordan frustrated.
1278
01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:08.400
But I really enjoyed that scene and the dynamic between
1279
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:08.719
the two.
1280
01:02:09.679 --> 01:02:14.320
Yeah, yeah, everything he was basically how was in the
1281
01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:17.880
driver's seat until the until the until the guy started
1282
01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:20.519
reciting the oath, and then once the once the oath
1283
01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:23.639
was recited, you know he you could tell that that
1284
01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:25.280
was the butt button. And I think they said they
1285
01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:28.079
were talking about this on the after show and they
1286
01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:31.079
were talking about how, you know, how likes to push
1287
01:02:31.159 --> 01:02:34.760
the boundaries of everything and there's you know, lines are
1288
01:02:34.840 --> 01:02:37.400
very blurred with him, and the only thing that he
1289
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:39.719
doesn't play around with is that oath. And he's like
1290
01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:42.599
dedicated his life to become green lantern, b Green lantern
1291
01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:46.199
and to protect the planet. Right, so like that's the
1292
01:02:46.239 --> 01:02:48.000
one thing that you can't play with him, and so
1293
01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:51.119
like once that happens, how kind of like loses it
1294
01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:51.599
a little bit.
1295
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:54.519
And yeah, it's a it was a very powerful scene.
1296
01:02:54.599 --> 01:02:57.519
Kyle Chandler a getting very underrated actor, and I think
1297
01:02:57.559 --> 01:02:59.800
he's doing a good job other than maybe a southern
1298
01:02:59.880 --> 01:03:05.079
I ecent, very good job at portraying how Jordan very good.
1299
01:03:05.119 --> 01:03:06.599
What about you, Shuli's what did you think of the
1300
01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:07.639
interrogation scene?
1301
01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:09.960
I think the Harry Potter thing stood out to me
1302
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:14.119
the most. The product placement of the Harry Potter twice
1303
01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:18.119
being mentioned was very very calculated, So.
1304
01:03:18.039 --> 01:03:20.039
That kind of that distracted me for a moment. I
1305
01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:21.679
was just like did they really just drop that twice?
1306
01:03:21.719 --> 01:03:24.880
But I do think that it goes to show when
1307
01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:27.039
we were trying to like pretend to know something, the
1308
01:03:27.079 --> 01:03:28.679
things that they latch onto. So the fact that he
1309
01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:31.079
was like only knew about certain presidents or like the
1310
01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:33.079
way like how that was going out was very interesting.
1311
01:03:33.119 --> 01:03:35.039
But he asked the right questions. I mean how it
1312
01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:36.840
showed that he was really good at you know what
1313
01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:40.719
he what he is there to do, and he was
1314
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:42.679
right all along and I didn't I didn't doubt him.
1315
01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:44.519
I knew when he pointed out I hit something off
1316
01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:47.679
about this guy, Like, but yeah, I am so used
1317
01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:49.559
to seeing when someone is an alien and a shape
1318
01:03:49.559 --> 01:03:51.880
shift back, and like, I'm so used to it being
1319
01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:55.719
a non human like conversation. So this was very interesting
1320
01:03:55.760 --> 01:03:57.639
to see because it's like, oh, we really wouldn't know
1321
01:03:57.679 --> 01:03:58.280
who someone is.
1322
01:03:58.280 --> 01:03:59.960
They could be acting like a regular person. It's not
1323
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:03.239
just about looking like a person their mannerisms.
1324
01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:04.719
Right, Like even I think in Men in Black, whenever
1325
01:04:04.760 --> 01:04:06.920
there was someone that was an alien, they were act
1326
01:04:07.159 --> 01:04:08.719
or have weird mannerisms.
1327
01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:12.079
But in this space aliens are they're.
1328
01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:14.400
Acting like regular people, very much like Secret Invasion, which
1329
01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:14.960
we tried not.
1330
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:16.320
To you know, talk about that.
1331
01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:17.559
We'll talk about that.
1332
01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:20.840
But but yeah, I think, yeah, I enjoyed it.
1333
01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:22.119
I think it does.
1334
01:04:22.559 --> 01:04:28.599
I am deeply, deeply, like conflicted about how Jordan not
1335
01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:30.400
being in the rest of it outside of it.
1336
01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:34.800
Being a hologram. But I mean I wish he was more.
1337
01:04:34.920 --> 01:04:37.159
I think seeing that interrogation, I was like, yeah, I
1338
01:04:37.159 --> 01:04:39.480
wish we could see more of him doing that, him
1339
01:04:39.480 --> 01:04:41.079
getting the ass kicked intentially.
1340
01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:42.559
To go to jail. I'm not for that.
1341
01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:44.920
That can only work of people of his color, because
1342
01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:46.920
that wouldn't have worked any other way.
1343
01:04:48.599 --> 01:04:49.960
Doesn't walk the live.
1344
01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:54.000
You know, it was a bad plan, not the best plan.
1345
01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:57.639
I also like this is from Off Duty Figures on Threads.
1346
01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:01.599
Just realized that Land Turns at its most basic core
1347
01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:03.800
is the R rated version of this, and it's a
1348
01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:05.760
picture of Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones at.
1349
01:05:07.719 --> 01:05:12.280
That is Yeah, yes, yes, that is funny. Yeah.
1350
01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:12.519
You know.
1351
01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:16.039
One of my favorite franchises, well, one of my favorite
1352
01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:18.079
two movies of all time are the first two Bad
1353
01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:18.679
Boy movies.
1354
01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:20.159
I really wish that.
1355
01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:23.079
And there hasn't been a buddy cop movie, slash franchise,
1356
01:05:23.119 --> 01:05:26.079
slash TV show that has really delve into that, like
1357
01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:29.800
that type of relationship, the way that they bicker so much.
1358
01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:32.719
I kind of I was kind of hoping, or I'm
1359
01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:34.719
kind of hoping in the future that we get to
1360
01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:38.480
that level of argument, but then they work together very
1361
01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:39.039
very well.
1362
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:41.519
I kind of wish that. I maybe Lanterns.
1363
01:05:41.199 --> 01:05:42.880
Will give me that a little bit, because you kind
1364
01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:45.400
of see the seeds of that a little bit where
1365
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:49.280
they kind of bicker and they're very what do you
1366
01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:50.840
passive aggressive towards each other.
1367
01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:52.559
They work together very well.
1368
01:05:52.679 --> 01:05:55.639
Yeah, and yeah, I want to see that amped up
1369
01:05:55.639 --> 01:05:57.840
a little bit because I think that's that that type
1370
01:05:57.840 --> 01:05:59.920
of buddy cop stuff is hilarious.
1371
01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:03.519
One other aspect before we wrap up, I do like
1372
01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:07.079
the while it can be maybe a little confusing that
1373
01:06:07.320 --> 01:06:09.679
the hopping of timelines, I really appreciate it because it
1374
01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:13.000
really makes you like really focus in on Okay, if
1375
01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:15.639
this is happening here, what's happening in this timeline?
1376
01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:16.119
You know what I mean?
1377
01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:19.440
Like that balance, And of course when you have Damon Lindelow,
1378
01:06:19.599 --> 01:06:22.400
Tom King and some of the others, you're gonna get
1379
01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:26.280
something that's a little more complex than just a straightforward
1380
01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:29.519
linear story. But I appreciate the jumping of timelines. I
1381
01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:32.119
think not only does it add history to the DCU,
1382
01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:34.679
it adds history with these characters, and it just kind
1383
01:06:34.679 --> 01:06:37.239
of just builds on the complexity of what could just
1384
01:06:37.320 --> 01:06:41.280
be a simple mystery and adds many more layers to
1385
01:06:41.320 --> 01:06:42.320
it than I was expecting.
1386
01:06:43.079 --> 01:06:46.880
Yeah, and I do appreciate them changing the way that
1387
01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:49.880
they look, and most TV shows will do that to
1388
01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:52.719
kind of show you the time difference. And then even
1389
01:06:52.760 --> 01:06:56.639
with the hologram, like he had much darker hair than
1390
01:06:56.800 --> 01:06:59.480
the twenty sixteen version, and then the twenty twenty six
1391
01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:01.800
version he looked real. I mean he was dead, so
1392
01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:05.840
he looked real old. Yes, yeah, and so like, Yeah,
1393
01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:08.280
even with the Aaron Prs John Stewart like the hairstyles
1394
01:07:08.280 --> 01:07:11.480
a little different. His uh is his goatee came in
1395
01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:14.199
a little bit so uh towards the end of the
1396
01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:17.559
episode in twenty twenty six. So yeah, I there's a
1397
01:07:17.800 --> 01:07:20.320
right way and a wrong way to time time jump,
1398
01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:23.760
and so far, at least in this episode, they did
1399
01:07:23.760 --> 01:07:24.840
a good job with it.
1400
01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:25.920
Yeah, what about you.
1401
01:07:25.880 --> 01:07:30.159
Sly, I am big on the I do like the
1402
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:34.039
mystery of the detective aspect of it. I think, yes,
1403
01:07:34.079 --> 01:07:37.239
he did look he did look a lot older towards
1404
01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:39.880
the end, but I think that I mean, I'm still
1405
01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:41.559
stuck on the whole I'm stuck on the whole part,
1406
01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:42.840
Like I wish we could have got more of their
1407
01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:45.239
interactions outside of the hologram, Like I.
1408
01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:47.559
Hope that this is not how they continue it to be.
1409
01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:49.639
But to your point about the Buddy Cop, I actually
1410
01:07:49.639 --> 01:07:53.239
made a video like, oh like maybe two months ago whenever,
1411
01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:57.400
the whole, whatever, the whole, Austin Butler and is it
1412
01:07:57.400 --> 01:07:59.960
Michael B. Jordan and Austin Butler were cast at Miami Vice.
1413
01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:03.079
I am all for that. I am I missed that,
1414
01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:06.960
I for one. For one, I mean, I guess for
1415
01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:09.280
one reason only don't mess up classics.
1416
01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:11.400
But for one reason I cannot figure.
1417
01:08:11.119 --> 01:08:13.639
Out why they wouldn't, why no one has tried to
1418
01:08:13.719 --> 01:08:16.720
revamp Lethal Weapon into a movie series, like into movies.
1419
01:08:16.920 --> 01:08:20.079
I know that they did the whole? What was it V?
1420
01:08:20.680 --> 01:08:21.079
I think?
1421
01:08:21.239 --> 01:08:21.439
Yeah?
1422
01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:23.399
Was it with that the Sean Williams Scott one or
1423
01:08:23.399 --> 01:08:26.279
is that the one with Jamie Fox at Colin Farrell that?
1424
01:08:27.079 --> 01:08:30.079
Oh that the Colin Farrell Jamie Fox one. That was
1425
01:08:30.119 --> 01:08:31.680
the other Miami Vice.
1426
01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:32.279
Yeah?
1427
01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:38.880
Yeah the Lethal Weapon on TV? Was like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1428
01:08:38.119 --> 01:08:40.359
Yeah, I've been wondering I missed Buddy Cott.
1429
01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:44.359
We don't have that so like Bad Boys is literally
1430
01:08:44.439 --> 01:08:47.560
the last one. So seeing this, I was like, oh cool,
1431
01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:49.880
we're gonna get the you know, the the back and forth,
1432
01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:51.520
the banter, Like I love the whole car scene with
1433
01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:53.239
him when he like runs them off the off the.
1434
01:08:54.279 --> 01:08:55.359
Off the cliff.
1435
01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:58.119
But then the moment it ends and he's like dead.
1436
01:08:58.159 --> 01:09:00.159
I'm like, see, right when I thought we were going
1437
01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:02.760
to get that, we don't, And so I was I
1438
01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:05.000
was bummed about that. I hope that that's revisited in
1439
01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:06.479
somewhere something changes about that.
1440
01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:07.720
I don't want just the hologram.
1441
01:09:07.960 --> 01:09:10.560
Yeah, well, we'll get a lot of it as we
1442
01:09:10.640 --> 01:09:13.239
because I imagine twenty sixteen will be the main timeline
1443
01:09:13.239 --> 01:09:16.039
that we'll focus in on. But yeah, when it comes
1444
01:09:16.079 --> 01:09:19.439
to twenty twenty six wait, not so much. But uh yeah,
1445
01:09:19.520 --> 01:09:22.159
they kind of off on a tangent. The buddy cop
1446
01:09:22.199 --> 01:09:25.079
stuff used to be so much stronger. I feel like nowadays,
1447
01:09:25.119 --> 01:09:27.439
I've most of the movies that I can think of
1448
01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:29.800
off the top of my head that our buddy cops
1449
01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:34.199
are pretty forgettable, you know, like I'm barely remembering. Uh,
1450
01:09:34.319 --> 01:09:37.119
what's the well one that came to mind is right along,
1451
01:09:37.199 --> 01:09:40.039
Like it's fine, but it's not necessarily what I would
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01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:42.960
consider like top tier, like a rush hour or like
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a lethal weapon or some of these others.
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Yeah, because because because wait, what was the one you
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just mentioned?
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Uh rush hour?
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Long?
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Oh yeah, right along.
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It's like more like comedy, Like that's like the buddy
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like comedy kind of like just like you said, we
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rush hour, but I'm like, we need more like interrogate,
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like I can't say min of black that's still like
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very alien based, but like more I guess the weapons
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still I'm thinking of like that like back and forth,
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but we're still like you know, police officers, We're still
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trying to get to the bottom of something. Like I
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think that's what I really was looking forward to a
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Lanterns because I was getting the best of both worlds.
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I was getting something I was still a comic.
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Book based but also has a heavy like crime thriller.
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But yeah, you brought up a good point.
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We might just be getting a lot of the twenty
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sixteen timeline and this is, you know, not much of
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the the the current.
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One for sure.
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Any other points from from you Jong or you Shalise
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on on Lanterns.
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Before we wrap up? Uh no, no, chalise you good?
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01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:39.159
Yeah, No, I'm good.
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01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:42.920
I'm anybody who was doubting seeing it, they should definitely reconsider.
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01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:45.760
I think that it's I mean, not that anybody really was,
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01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:46.800
but a lot of people were just like, oh it's
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01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:48.239
green lantern quickly to write it off.
1484
01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:52.479
But I think it's important to definitely give it a shot.
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01:10:52.520 --> 01:10:55.000
To give it a shot, and I love the weekly releases.
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I cannot stress that enough.
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I love how we're able to talk about this collectively
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01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:01.239
week to week versus someone just dumping it all on
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a platform and then people are all over the place.
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It keeps the.
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Conversation stretched for the entire series. So shout out to
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any studio that does weekly releases.
1493
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Yeah Netflix, just saying just you know, just putting yeah seriously. Yeah, Well,
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before we we wrap up, she lae remind the folks
1495
01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:19.840
where they can follow you online and where they can
1496
01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:20.439
find your work.
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01:11:20.840 --> 01:11:24.399
Yeah, so I am on realmovie Junkie dot com. That's
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01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:28.760
our e E L Junkie movie Junkie dot com. My
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social platforms are all of them are Hay, Shalise h
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E y C H A L I C E, Threads, Instagram, Twitter,
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01:11:37.359 --> 01:11:41.920
definitely follow me on on Instagram and TikTok for sure.
1502
01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:46.199
And then you have Tiff coming up, and then this
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01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:50.000
is news. We have fantastic fest coming up because they
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01:11:50.479 --> 01:11:52.920
Fantastic Fest of movie film Festival. I don't know why
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01:11:52.920 --> 01:11:55.199
I said movie film, like it's two different things. Anyway,
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01:11:55.600 --> 01:11:57.680
we have a film festival coming up that we'll be
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01:11:57.720 --> 01:11:58.439
covering together.
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01:11:58.920 --> 01:12:02.159
Yeah, and there are a lot of there are a
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01:12:02.640 --> 01:12:05.560
I am shocked that there are such good We're talking
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01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:10.359
like Resident Evil, Carrie Wild Horse nine, Like there is
1511
01:12:10.359 --> 01:12:12.239
like at least a good, solid, like six films that
1512
01:12:12.239 --> 01:12:13.039
are big that I was.
1513
01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:14.479
Not expecting to come out of that. So yeah, I'm
1514
01:12:14.520 --> 01:12:15.399
very excited to cover that.
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01:12:16.039 --> 01:12:18.640
Yeah, that's towards the end of September. I think it
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is September seventeenth through the twenty fourth. So excited for that.
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01:12:22.520 --> 01:12:24.680
Excited for more lanterns next week and we will talk
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to you guys all about lanterns and well probably all
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01:12:27.840 --> 01:12:29.000
about lanterns next time.
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See you.
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01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:40.319
Hi, Hello, Hello, Hi, Hi.
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01:12:41.239 --> 01:12:43.560
Is this Chalise Williams of Real Movie Junkie.
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01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:45.199
This be she? This be she?
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01:12:45.359 --> 01:12:47.800
Oh that's good, that's good. This is Michael Carroll and
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01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:49.159
Jong Lee of Comiccast.
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01:12:49.840 --> 01:12:50.600
John is real.
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01:12:51.079 --> 01:12:53.359
Yeah, I am real, And I beat you to the
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01:12:53.800 --> 01:12:55.880
to the recording for the first time ever.
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01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:56.279
Ha ha.
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01:12:56.600 --> 01:12:56.840
Yeah.
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01:12:56.880 --> 01:13:00.880
You know what's funny is that I I said an alarm,
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and so I sound like I'll have sleep. I said
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the alarm, and then my phone was on one percent
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01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:07.359
and I panicked and looked at it.
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01:13:07.359 --> 01:13:08.920
And I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna like,
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I'm gonna.
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01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:10.760
Sit here and just put it on a charger. And
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the charger wasn't on, wasn't plugged in. Oh no, Yeah,
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01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:16.720
So I woke up in a panic like that moment.
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There's literally a video I just watched yesterday where it's
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like you're thinking, Okay, I got forty five minutes, and
1542
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then you go to sleep and you wake up it's
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like two hours later