#617 - Taking Psychic Classes, Hottest Cowboys & How to Get on Reality TV with Caroline Hobby

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Speaker 1: Everybody. We're here this week with Caroline Hobby, Who's done a lot of stuff. She has been in a band successfully, she has dominated reality television. She has a podcast now that is doing really great. Caroline, thank you for.
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Speaker 2: Being here, Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 1: What I see most from you content wise now is you and your daughter. It feels like yesterday that Sonny was born. That's a crazy, crazy thing to watch happen. I cannot believe that she's as old as she is now. Does it fly like that?
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Speaker 2: It flies?
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Speaker 3: And now you are in the beginning of it all. You're in the beginning of the best part of the rest of your life.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like it's flying yet.
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Speaker 2: It's really crazy.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: We had a friend and they said, take so many videos. I mean, I'm such an emotional sap, I'll cry all the time. But like I a memory popped up today and he was four and now she's almost seven. And she was trying on this leotard and she was like looking at herself in the mirror and she was like liking it.
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Speaker 2: And then she's like, I don't like this one. I'm gonna take it off. And I'm like her little baby voice and then she was playing on the piano and she was singing like the song to her stuffed animal, how she loved it. I'm like, she was a baby and now she's hurting seven and.
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Speaker 3: I remember yesterday her being born, literally and now she's almost seven. So they say the days are long, but the years are short, and that is just could not be more true. I know you're in like the sleep deprivation part.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's eleven weeks old now, and it's been crazy. And again I thought I would have all these existential thoughts about wow, I'm gonna think all the time about being a dad, two humans coming together, developing this. But mostly it's like there are no time for those thoughts because as soon as I get home, there's not a lot of time for thinking, which is kind of nice. There's a lot of time for it's this constant you know what. I didn't realize that a baby is so constant.
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Speaker 2: It's and I know why parents are always exhausted.
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Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, it's constant. My wife, and I'm not even acting like I do most of it. Well, I know you don't, Yeah, my wife does.
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Speaker 2: It's always the wife.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so you know, I'll work and then I go home and I try to help her out as much as possible, and it's like I'll take the baby, I'll try to give you a break to do whatever. But yeah, it feels like a blur, Like the last eleven weeks have been a blur. What's been great, though, is I have two friends that just had babies and to actually have a little knowledge about like the new new new born part of it. Because I had some friends that they had babies and they were like, yeah, thirteen years ago we did this or and that. That's valuable. But I think what would have been really cool is somebody that just had a baby who could go, oh, this is what's going to happen. This is the stuff that you need for sure. So I feel like I've been able to give back to a couple of my friends already, which has been pretty great to go, especially my dude friends. And I'm like hospital socks, dude, like it's gonna suck for her words because she's actually doing all but like the couch sucks. Take blank.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to hear I know, I know you don't know that's a.
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Speaker 1: Conversation, but I can ask that I can have that nobody had with me. I went way ill prepared. I don't know it was her doing all the work. But still.
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Speaker 2: Hormones out the window.
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Speaker 1: You need to know it as a dude, how many blankets to take? Take your own pillow?
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Speaker 2: So we quietly to tell your guy friends that not in front.
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Speaker 1: Of your Yeah, it was very quiet. It was actually in a text message. So, but a lot of pictures. Like my wife, she takes a lot of pictures and she sends them to me while I'm at work, which I like, and she'll ask me, she'll say, is it annoying that I'm sending you pictures while you work? No, it's awesome. And so to look back, even eleven weeks from now, to see those pictures from week one and week two and week three, it looks like a different person.
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Speaker 3: And it's crazy right now because like you're just like in the baby baby phase, and like I remember when Sunny was a baby, it was just like, you know, you're just like keeping them alive, keeping them fed, keeping them sleeping and all the things. And then you're like so have when they smile at you and their little personalities start to come out, and then they roll over and it's like all these little, like sweet, little like physical things, but then like they're going to start talking and then they part's crazy. What has surprised you the most about yourself and fatherhood?
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Speaker 1: I think the most surprising thing is just more so that I am not really there for the baby right now. I'm really there for my wife right now.
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Speaker 2: How have you shown up for her?
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Speaker 1: I just try to show up for her even physically being there. Yeah, there would be days where if my workday is hectic, it is, you know, start early, go to a different building to shoot this podcast, go here to do this speech guest on something. I would never go home because it really was a convenient now and this is such a little thing, but I make sure to go home for forty five minutes. So physically that's what I'm doing. I'm also a lot of listening, also a lot of predicting due to kind of the habits that I know that we formed with the baby and the baby schedule. Also if like the baby's doing a like a contact nap and not in the best in that right. I've also learned these terms. I'm pretty good at the terms. And I see my wife does not have her air pods with her, I will take hers and quietly.
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Speaker 2: You know, those things really matter.
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Speaker 1: So it's those little things that I would have that ever even known about, making sure that if she's holding the baby, I can tell which arm is not available, putting the water on the side, that the arm that is available.
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Speaker 2: That keeps her from hating you.
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Speaker 1: Well whatever you know, well, because.
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Speaker 2: The AGEH is real, the husband hatred.
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Speaker 3: It's a thing that happens when a baby's born because like sometimes the husbands don't know what to do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know what to do well most times.
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Speaker 3: And so that's very thoughtful because the AGEH.
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Speaker 2: Can sneak in there.
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Speaker 1: Never heard that term the husband hatred. I'm trying to avoid that as much as playing. But it's those little things that if I can just show that I'm thinking about it.
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Speaker 2: And trying to consider what she needs, yeah, and just.
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Speaker 1: Getting home and even things like and this is gonna sound really really out of touch, and that's okay, but I'll share my life. You know. I had to go and did this thing on a television show the other day, and we took a van and we drove to New York and I did a bunch of interviews and so instead of like spending the night again and just having her a second night without me. I just got a private flight and flew home. And I wouldn't do that normally because I'm like, it's easy for me to just go, spend the night, go to the airport, normal fly home. But so it's even stuff like that, it's like I just need to be there effort, so I'm gonna go. Luckily I have the resources to do it. I'm gonna just get a plane and fly home. So it's it's just mostly just trying to be there because it do work a lot and it's a lot of hours.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you really do.
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Speaker 1: It's being gone, and so I think the surprising thing is that I'm always trying to be conscious of that.
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Speaker 2: That's right, so good for you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the baby thing, I don't know if there are any surprises yet. I think that I'm not grossed out by a pooper pea coming from a baby's but I thought it would be a lot more grossed out by it. At first. I was a little scared of it. It's like, because first it comes down, it's all like tari and weird, like when the the baby's born, it's likely and I was like, oh, I don't know if I can do this, you can do it, then it's mustard basically. But it doesn't even bother me at all anymore. So that's a surprising thing, is that that normal I don't want to deal with poop and pee is nothing I can. I can rock a diaper, now I don't do it near as a fish as my wife does, and she can tell it's a little l abstract when I'm done.
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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that.
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Speaker 1: I can rock a bath.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so when time can be really sweet.
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Speaker 1: When it's bath time and our baby loves the bath, my wife and I do it together.
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Speaker 2: Our baby, like you have a baby.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a baby, I know. Now, yeah you're saying that, like, yes, now I can. But yeah, if you had to ask me a year ago, I'd have been like, ah, I don't know, it's but like bad time, I can handle it all myself, and I can do the lotion after, and so all that little stuff that I never even knew existed, like I think about in care and schedule, all of that out of my head. So I think that's probably the surprising thing is that I'm ever conscious of it. But my wife already gets sad about her growing up, our daughter growing up, and she's eleven weeks old, and I'm like, she's only been on earth for eleven weeks and you're already said and she's like, one day she's gonna have to go to school. How do people do that? When?
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Speaker 2: Why just don't send my daughter to school? We just do homeschool.
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Speaker 1: She said that too. And I'm someone who's like, you know, I think these children need need it hard.
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Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know they need to be prepared. No, life's going to prepare you anyway. You don't have to like prepare them by just loving them so much and letting them know how.
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Speaker 2: Loved they are.
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Speaker 1: She's sounding like my wife.
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Speaker 3: How wanted they are, how supported they are, So then they have the confidence to go out there and do it and they don't have to like go through years of therapy because.
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Speaker 1: Oh they're going to go through therapy regardless. I know.
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Speaker 3: I'm my I'm realizing now, like I have over nurtured Sonny so much to the fact that we have separation anxiety.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, maybe went too hard.
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Speaker 1: There just isn't a right. I think I've learned that there's not a right, and you're just not going to catch me parents shaming anybody for any reason unless you're like hurting a kid. Like, everybody has a different way. There is no way that's absolutely right totally, and they're going to be in therapy for one way or the other because there's no perfect line to walk.
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Speaker 3: Do you know what your style is? Have you like noticed how your style is of parenting? Are you more like are you more like holding the line or are you kind of okay too soon?
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Speaker 1: Eleven weeks too soon? I do want my kid to have some adversity, and I'm.
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Speaker 2: You're gonna get it.
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Speaker 1: I know. My wife says, she's like, she's gonna get it on her own.
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Speaker 2: You don't find it for it?
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Speaker 1: Well, she's like's not, she doesn't have to live your life.
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Speaker 2: No, you don't have to make her. She's gonna get her own adversity. You don't have to like put it on her a little bit though.
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Speaker 1: That's my dad was like, for example, I'll put the pacifier just right by your.
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Speaker 2: Mouth and make.
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Speaker 1: Make a get You can make your like fight for it a little bit, Like everything's not given to you. So I'm a wife, like, quit being stupid.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with Kaitlyn.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's been it's I mean it's it's been cool and hard and amazing and uh difficult, and I've done a lot of things wrong. I've done some things right. It's just all of that. So I'm tired because it's so constant. It's not even that i'm you know, my stepdad worked at the mill and you get exhausted by doing labor. It's not that kind of tired.
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Speaker 2: It's just you never can turn off.
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Speaker 1: It's like a twenty hour road trip tired. It never ends that you can't. When you take it a long road trip, you finish the ride and you're like, why am I tired? I've just but you've had to focus for twenty hours while driving the car, so you're exhausted.
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Speaker 3: You're exhausted, and it never stops. It's like wake up and repeat every single day. It does change as they get older, Like I don't feel that way anymore because now Sunny like my best friend and we talk and she's like my buddy, and like I would hang out with her over anyone any day of the week. I would pick her times a million. She's like the most fun person to me. So that's different because once you get out of the keeping them just solely alive phase, it kind of does evolve. But it's like you never are alone.
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Speaker 2: I mean I don't ever even go to the bathroom b myself ever.
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Speaker 3: Literally, I don't shower by myself, like she's always around, you know, Like I'm never alone ever, not even a little bit.
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Speaker 1: The best thing that happens is if the baby is fussy for some reason and I can come in and save the day. That's a pretty good feeling. If like she's crying with my wife for some reason and I can come in and it just could be a change of scenery, honestly, that's it, and I can do something and the baby is not fussy anymore. That's a huge victory.
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Speaker 2: To show you got value, which you do have value, Bobby.
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Speaker 1: In all, Yeah, but it's just not to the baby. And I understand that. And I was with my therapist before we had the baby, and he's like, hey, you cannot assign anything to that baby and you having a relationship until way down, way down, way down the road. Because if you're like this baby and I are going to be we're gonna fall in love immediately. You're gonna be so close. He's like, that's just really, for the most part, not how it happens with guys totally, because the baby's been inside the mom, yeah, and they there is a ten months basically of a bond that's been there. So I think I've set myself up pretty successfully for that. I do get jealous sometimes if Caitlin's like, hey, here, take her for a bit, and I take her and the baby's just like what the crap? Or is mom going a little bit? There's a little of jealousy. I mean, but I get it.
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Speaker 2: She's with her all day, right, so that's very normal. You're doing great, I'm doing okay, you're doing great.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if great is actually achievable.
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Speaker 2: I think if you're trying your best and you're showing up with love, you're doing.
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Speaker 1: Oh, accept that, then I do I do care?
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Speaker 2: Yeah you care?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do care.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's everyone's going to mess up.
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Speaker 3: There's no Parenting is a constant and and reevaluating and readjusting, and but if you show up the best you can with what you got that day, then I think you're doing great.
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Speaker 1: My goal is to just show up and stay up and just be there because I didn't have that ever as a kid.
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Speaker 2: Is that way? Do you think about that all the time? Oh?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I was doing an interview with US Weekly the other day and I didn't. I thought we were just going to go in and they'd be like, all right, name this picture. Okay, that's ed Cheerin. All right, who's that? That's West from Summerhouse. But they weren't. I sat down and they started going, Okay, so you had a kid, what are the raw motions you're experiencing. I'm like, oh, are wed us Weekly? What the heck? The heck? And I don't mind talking about that, but I said, I just, you know, I want to exist consistently because I feel like that's currency that I didn't have because there was no consistency in my life. You know. My mom had me when she was sixteen, right after sixteenth birthday, and so what kind of chance did she have? And she was gone a bunch and my real dad left him, my grandma raised me, and it was just no consistency ever, and we'moving and so I just want there to be consistency.
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Speaker 3: Who have you found to be like a mentor for you as a father figure.
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Speaker 2: Nobody, so you're kind of just piecing it all together from observing.
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Speaker 1: I'm just at a weird age.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've seen a lot and you've lived a lot. Well.
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Speaker 1: I also don't have people my age that are going through this at the same time, and so all my close friends that have kids that are all like fourteen, and so I think for anybody that, yeah, no, my friend's a good point.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, just clarifying, it's.
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Speaker 1: A great point. I think for anybody that I would ask, I would ask for more macro dad advice, not baby advice, because they've been so far removed from it. It'd be like asking your grandma about TikTok.
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Speaker 2: I just want you to know, though all the tools are already within you.
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Speaker 1: You have it all, Thank you, Tony Robbins, and you.
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Speaker 3: Are perfectly equipped to be Billy's father. You know you have everything you need right there in your heart.
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Speaker 1: It was weird. I've only been gone twice. I left to do a music festival, only gone one night. It was two days one night. That was the first time I told my wife and I travel a lot, and I said, hey, I'm not gonna leave for two months. As soon as you have the baby, like I'm in two months never leaving. Said no to a lot of things, but it was easy because I made he rely promise did that. I did one other thing this past weekend, and I went and I did some interviews for this show, but also I did a television show. They can't really talk about yet the sign an NDA. I'm not even like competing on the show? Is the weird thing about the NDA?
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Speaker 2: Is it a competition show?
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Speaker 1: I don't even think I can say that. Okay, Like it's weird that I can't say anything about it because of how little impact I have on it, and I'm not sure why. But even being gone those days was kind of weird. But it's like, yeah, why did I sign an NDA for that show? Did when you did Amazing Race? You had to sign an NDA? Not to say anything though? Right?
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Speaker 2: I think it a sign like your whole life pretty much in every aspect. So yes, definitely. When I told a lot of people Amazing Race.
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Speaker 1: Wait, so you came home and you could tell people or it did? Sorry not you couldn't. You shouldn't have, but you did.
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Speaker 2: You told me everybody?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, how if it ended? Yeah? How many seasons? Did you do too?
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Speaker 3: Sorry CBS, but yeah, I just blabbed it out to everybody.
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Speaker 2: I told the whole world no, because like, what are they gonna do? I mean really back then, I mean social media was slow key.
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Speaker 3: I had just gotten on Instagram, like Jen my partner, who you know Jen Wayne in run Away June?
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Speaker 2: We love her. She and I were on Amazing Race and she was like, you need to sign up for Instagram. It's gonna be a thing. I was like, what the heck is Instagram?
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Speaker 3: And then we signed up and came back from Amazing Race and had like ten thousand followers, and I was like, oh, okay, it had just started.
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Speaker 1: How did you have ten thousand followers?
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Speaker 2: Because people once the show started we got.
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Speaker 1: Got it, got it, gotta get it. Yeah, And you came home and told everybody how you guys finished? How did you finish Season one?
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Speaker 3: We got fourth, so we made it to the season finale, made it to the finals, got fourth.
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Speaker 1: Did you make money from that?
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Speaker 2: It's I think I've told you this before.
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Speaker 3: I mean it's really the scaling of the money is quite ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: Is there a prize money for you?
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Speaker 3: A million dollars if you get first, that you split if you get second place, which we got the second time we did it because we went back to All Stars and we got second place. You get twenty five thousand dollars and you split it two ways, so it goes from a million to twenty five thousand dollars for second place, and then I think third place is like ten thousand dollars.
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Speaker 2: Fourth place is like you.
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Speaker 1: Owe them a dollar?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you owe money. You're paying to be on the show.
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Speaker 1: Basically, do they give you a stipend for every day that you're No.
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Speaker 2: Really, I'm telling.
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Speaker 3: You people will do anything to get on TV that they will literally like pay pretty much.
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Speaker 1: Why did you guys go on get on that show?
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Speaker 2: Originally we got on it because yeah, did.
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Speaker 1: They scout you or did you go at it?
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Speaker 3: So story of my life, which has always been random. I have no formal advice for anyone on how to do anything because everything I've done has been completely random.
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Speaker 2: Jen and I were in a band.
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Speaker 3: We were in this band called Stealing Angels with our friend and a partner and like sisters.
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Speaker 2: We were all like sisters.
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Speaker 3: Taylor Lan and we tried that band for a long time and it was great at a lot of great opportunities.
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Speaker 2: Would it just kind of like never quite got there and it was kind of falling apart. Taylor had just gotten pregnant. Everything was like falling apart.
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Speaker 3: And randomly our agent called us and was like, well, amazing, race is looking for a country duo.
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Speaker 2: Wou would you and Jen want to do this? And we were like yes because literally everything is crashying right now, and so we made a video and then a month later we were racing around the world.
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Speaker 3: It was random, but that is how my life has always going gone. So that's why I constantly have massive anxiety and then just trust that it'll all work out.
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Speaker 1: So you finished fourth though on the regular season, and they invited you to All Stars. Yeah, would you actually be an All Star if you finished fourth?
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Speaker 2: All Star is more like a fan favorite.
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Speaker 1: And then you finished higher and second place you should have won.
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Speaker 2: We lost by four seconds. It was really just a really sad, sad day.
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Speaker 1: Is it? Is it a rate like a finish line race?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we should have actually gotten first because love Dave and Connor, love you guys forever, But we were We had strict rules, like you cannot speed, you cannot break the legal laws, like you had to follow laws. And so we were in a taxi cab in Vegas and going to skydive and like skydive into the motor Speedway over Vegas, and like Jen and I were in the lead. Dave, who I love you, Dave, I'm always gonna love you, paid his cab driver like one hundred dollars to speed past us.
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Speaker 2: And so they literally.
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Speaker 3: Broke the law, which you can't do, sped past us. And then they got to this box first for the clue. And in the whole race, there had never been a stop clock where they like stop time. Usually it's like you get there, you get to the next thing, whoever gets there goes first, but just like a stop so it was like thirty minutes stop. And so he got to the box three second before me to pull the clue, and there was a thirty minute stop time. So then he got to get an I was in my helicopter before him.
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Speaker 1: Does that mean you have to stop for thirty minutes and do nothing?
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Speaker 2: It was like a pause.
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Speaker 3: It was like a mandatory thirty minute pause, which had not happened the entire race. And so I was in my helicopter suited up five minutes before him, but because he stopped got that clue three seconds before me, he got to go first in his helicopter.
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Speaker 1: And so they want a million dollars.
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Speaker 2: They want a million dollars.
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Speaker 3: They're great, they're both there's father son, cancer survivors. Their stories fantastic. I love them so much. They're wonderful. But I was literally like, technically this it's not fair.
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Speaker 4: We interrupt this interview to bring you a message from our sponsor. This is the Bobby cast.
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Speaker 1: Did people still recognize you from that show?
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Speaker 2: Oh?
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Speaker 1: Oh they don't.
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Speaker 3: I mean unless you're like a diehard amazing Race fan. It's a very niche pocket. Like people who love amazing race love amazing race, but then no one else in the world is.
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Speaker 2: It's not like The Bachelor.
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Speaker 3: We did it twice, but it's not that kind of show where people just like freak out.
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Speaker 2: It's not like that.
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Speaker 3: It's like you either love amazing race or you don't know anything about it.
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Speaker 1: I get people to come up with me all the time just for just for Dancing with the Stars.
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Speaker 2: But Dancing with the Stars is one of those shows. It's like it's making headlines.
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Speaker 1: It's in this tablot, not always like this show has done this up and down, up and down. Yeah, and there's been like thirty five seasons.
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Speaker 3: But I don't watch Dancing with the Stars, and I know what's happening with Dancing with the Stars, but I never know what's happening with Amazing Race.
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Speaker 1: Did they ever ask you to go back for another season?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I was pregnant and Jin was in the middle of our I was like barely pregnant, and Jen was in the middle of like music career stuff, and it just didn't work out.
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Speaker 1: I get people that hit me up asking like, Hey, what can they do to get on one of these shows? Do you have any advice for someone trying to get on a reality show.
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Speaker 3: I try to give people advice all the time, and I'll send people to my casting director all the time. For Amazing Race, I think you have to have you have to have a a.
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Speaker 2: Like a stick, you know, like.
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Speaker 3: A Yeah, you have to have a stick, like we were like the country singers, the blonde country singers. So it's like you have to like have something like Dave and Connor. We're father to daughter, father son, cancer survivors, you know, like you have to have something that makes you kind of stand out in that way.
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Speaker 2: And I don't know what they're looking for. They're always looking for something different, So.
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Speaker 1: They are trying on those shows, even on American Idol when I was there, to find and fill certain gaps.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they like put it together like a puzzle.
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Speaker 1: But I do think everybody has their stick. You just have to identify it, right, Like that's the problem. You could team anybody up, but you have to find that common Uh, we'll just use that word, that common stick, that that thing that makes that combination one that people are going to remember, Like that's the team that is. You know, they're both blind. I'm blind in one eye, so I would get like, you're blind in one eye and my right eye doesn't.
00:22:55
Speaker 2: Work, Like, what does it look like?
00:22:57
Speaker 1: What do you see my well left eyes?
00:23:00
Speaker 2: You're only seeing with one eye.
00:23:02
Speaker 1: I have eight percent vision of my full turned look. I have eight percent vision in my right eye, so I have my periphery. I can see my hand here, but it is so blurry. If I cover my left eye, all I see of you right now. This is the blind eye. All I see of you right now. I can tell your skin color, okay, and I can see a blur that is the shape of you, and you're wearing a sequency jacket, so I can see like.
00:23:25
Speaker 2: But you're also a colorblind.
00:23:27
Speaker 1: Some yes, too, dark colors.
00:23:29
Speaker 2: But I've always been blind.
00:23:31
Speaker 1: Always, and so it doesn't feel any different to me, So it's not like I'm blind. This sucks.
00:23:36
Speaker 2: Are you worried that you might go blind on the other eye?
00:23:39
Speaker 1: Sure? Are you worried you're gonna hit my car when you walk outside? Yeah, it sucks. I just don't know. That was like an when I was younger. Well, I wore a patch as a Oh yeah.
00:23:51
Speaker 2: Why did you wear a patch?
00:23:51
Speaker 1: That's cool, you would think, unless you're five or six and you can beat up for it. Oh, but I wore the patch on my good eye to strengthen my bad eye because if you catch it when you're really young, okay, they think at times, possibly it can strengthen, okay, And so I wore patch. I used to ride the bus. They used to beat me.
00:24:09
Speaker 2: So you really were kind of walking in blind places. If you're already kind of blind pretty much and then you have a patch, how could you see.
00:24:15
Speaker 1: Where you're going exactly?
00:24:16
Speaker 2: That's very difficult as a five year old.
00:24:17
Speaker 1: Hard days and imagine being called a pirate at the same time.
00:24:20
Speaker 2: I mean it could have been cool. It could have done either way.
00:24:23
Speaker 1: I think if I were twenty two, it's cool. Yeah, at five or six, you don't want to be different.
00:24:28
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.
00:24:29
Speaker 1: So I ended up just ditching the patch because I didn't like being made fun of.
00:24:33
Speaker 2: I get that.
00:24:34
Speaker 1: So the eye never got strong. But then my doctor once said, if you don't wear glasses and protect your good eye, you could lose your good eye. So it's why I started wearing glasses, was lid to roughly just as protection, so I didn't lose my good eye. So, yes, I was scared of that now, but now that eye is.
00:24:53
Speaker 2: Aged, and now it's your trademark, your glasses. Yeah yeah, really it always works out.
00:25:00
Speaker 1: I mean I'd rather have full vision, if I'm being honest, right, than wear my trademark. I'd have a different trademark, get that.
00:25:06
Speaker 2: But you know what, it's all as long as time, our tragedies, in our the hard hardships turn out to be what really shapes into who we are, right.
00:25:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's what we're saying about the babies. I want my baby to have some hardships.
00:25:22
Speaker 3: But your mom didn't have to make you blind to give you that hardship. It's just the way it was because life dealt you that hand.
00:25:28
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. You're gonna get delted.
00:25:29
Speaker 1: I got to choose poverty blindness. I had a huge head. It's still big, but I'm talking about a cartoon shaped head.
00:25:38
Speaker 2: You got a lot of brains in there.
00:25:40
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the easy thing to say, but I'm telling you as a I don't think my head has gotten any bigger from like age seven on. But imagine this size head on a seven year old, same exact thing.
00:25:49
Speaker 2: Were you pretty skinny too?
00:25:50
Speaker 1: Yeah? I was tiny. I was just a small child with a massive head.
00:25:55
Speaker 2: And a pirate patch. I mean that you did have a lot going on.
00:25:58
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:25:58
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:25:59
Speaker 1: They used to cut slim it's in my shirts until about age seven or eight, because there are small shirts for small kids. But my head wouldn't fit through the shirt holes.
00:26:07
Speaker 2: Oh it's okay, oh oh, to get your head through.
00:26:09
Speaker 1: So they would cut slits in my shirts to get my head through. How crazy is that? It's been a hard life.
00:26:16
Speaker 2: I think you turned into something great, though, Bobby.
00:26:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've done good with it. Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:21
Speaker 2: Can you know what I really appreciate about you. You've done a lot of hard work on yourself.
00:26:26
Speaker 1: Oh work. I go to therapy.
00:26:28
Speaker 2: I will tell you a lot of people don't do that.
00:26:31
Speaker 1: Just travels with me anytime I'm driving. He's right, yeah, yeah, good.
00:26:34
Speaker 2: You have to be proud of yourself for that.
00:26:35
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about therapy. I only went to therapy the first time because of my insurance. I got an insurance at like twenty five or twenty six. They were like, you know, you can go to a therapist. I was like, really, that sounds hilarious. That's what I thought. That sounds hilarious. I can go to it like a shrink like on TV. But crazy people go. Yeah, and yeah, it's amazing. I'm massive mental health advocate. I go every other week for myself, but I go the other every other week. My wife and I go. We've been going since before we get all. Yeah, we hit it pretty hard. We took our baby the first time.
00:27:04
Speaker 2: That's good. You know, it's good to clean up the pipes.
00:27:08
Speaker 1: I would say that for that's a different meaning. What do you mean clean out the pipes? Yeah, that's a dude. When a dude says that, that's a different thing, what do you mean?
00:27:14
Speaker 3: I mean, it's good to clean out all pipes all the time, but it is important.
00:27:17
Speaker 2: To clean out the with your marriage.
00:27:20
Speaker 3: Like that's awesome to like because little stuff can be little, but if you don't clean it out and like address it, it can like compound and then all of a sudden you've got a massive clog and it's like, oh, shoot, you know now what could have been if you by fixing it every week, addressing it every other week. It's like it stays little, it keeps slowing, but if you let it build, then all of a sudden you have a problem that really didn't need to be a problem.
00:27:42
Speaker 1: Yes, so that could be urethra or a relationship totally.
00:27:46
Speaker 3: Uh.
00:27:46
Speaker 1: For me, it's been great and conflict resolution. Yeah, I was solo alone my whole life, my adult life, not like you know, cast away Tom Hanks, but like it was just it was only me. Yeah, I was only taking care of me, only had to deal with me. I could resolve everything in my own head. And so when my wife and I started not just datium but got into like a serious relationship, that was wild for me to have to care what someone else thought, and that I wasn't always right because even if I was wrong and I was by myself, I was still right because it's just the way I.
00:28:22
Speaker 3: And that you're willing to care what someone else thought, you know, because that's the next part, is like being willing to say, like I actually love you enough that I'm willing to step back from my ways.
00:28:34
Speaker 1: Took a minute, I'm sure, very willing, but she did it. Yeah. She The thing about my wife that was hard was that one she's really strong but smarter than I am. That's good, and that's hard. That's hard for me to admit. It's like the only thing that I've had, like being smart and having hair, two things. It's the only two things that I've really had. Is like I've been smart forever as a kid, like before I even had a choice about it, they were like, you're smart, We're gonna put you in smart kid classes. And then I've always had my hair great. The one thing I enjoyed about my biological father still has his hair nice. Like I don't know, I don't know.
00:29:09
Speaker 2: Ya met the one time, right.
00:29:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean was that healing for you? We met a lot until I was like five, right right, yeah, like every day, but you.
00:29:16
Speaker 2: Met him as an adult.
00:29:17
Speaker 3: Was that a healing moment or was it more just like Okay, I don't have to think about that anymore.
00:29:24
Speaker 1: I don't know if I was healed, but I came away from it going I don't have to hold hate. I don't have to.
00:29:34
Speaker 2: Put him on a pedestal or like that could take.
00:29:36
Speaker 1: Him off of like a villain pedestal.
00:29:39
Speaker 2: Maybe he really actually wasn't a villain. He just yeah, made some bad choices and it could happen, and.
00:29:45
Speaker 1: Then pride got in the way, and there's a lot of things. I still struggle a bit with it. But he has all his hair, so he gave you that rock and roll. I mean, go dad. Heck, I'd rather have all my hair and him not around than him around being bald.
00:29:58
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it's successful.
00:30:01
Speaker 1: Oh, it's not all my hair. Be a fatherless child. Okay. At this point in my.
00:30:06
Speaker 2: Line, you know you can just go to Turkey and get hair implants. It's not that difficult these days.
00:30:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that wouldn't be.
00:30:11
Speaker 2: Oh you needed to be real. Oh you're just totally authentic.
00:30:14
Speaker 1: True and true everything about me?
00:30:16
Speaker 2: Oh right, nothing fake? Okay, okay, and know we're purest over there, great.
00:30:20
Speaker 1: Bobby, nothing like that.
00:30:22
Speaker 2: Not me. Give me all the things.
00:30:24
Speaker 1: I'll take them, all, all the fake things. Sure, what's fake on you?
00:30:27
Speaker 4: Well?
00:30:28
Speaker 3: I went okay. So I had a midlife crisis. No, I don't do fake nails, fay flashes, do some botox. I have a tiny bittle lip filler. I but I don't like the overdone look. I had this midlife crisis. So so after I had Sonny, I was thirty eight years old. It's she was thirty six and I was, I mean thirty six on a hatter. I was thirty eight years old. I was having this midlife crisis and I was like, oh my gosh, I don't feel worthy, Like I just don't feel worthy as a woman and as a human.
00:30:58
Speaker 2: And I feel like I feel like, for some reason, I'm not good enough.
00:31:04
Speaker 3: And I struggled with this my whole life, just not feeling like I was good enough or not feeling worthy and if plethora of reasons why M also my genetic disposition. I'm super super emotional. I'm a four on the enneagram. I'm very like dramatic with my feelings. Like, so I was like, I cannot raise a daughter to not feel worthy, Like I have got to get this in check, like I have to be able to feel good about myself and worthy and like cause I am. All I want to do is teach her that and so like if I don't feel that way, then I'm a liar. So I did this whole life crisis. I cut my hair, I died it dark I cause I got back to my natural color. I was like, why why do I have blonde hair? Why do I fake lashes? Why do I have botox? Why am I wearing clothes like this? Why am I being this kind of person? Like I don't even know why I'm doing this? Am I doing it because I want people to like me or think I'm pretty or to be accepted? Like I have no idea because I don't feel worthy, and so like what am I chasing? So I did this whole just like stripping myself down to like who I am at the core, like just got how God made me?
00:32:04
Speaker 2: Like, get rid of anything extra?
00:32:06
Speaker 1: What did you did? You look like a branch Davidian? Like that's what it sounds like when you're saying that.
00:32:13
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I felt very quiet.
00:32:17
Speaker 3: It made me feel a lot quieter like I felt because I was like I had always been so loud. I've always not loud, but I'd always I've always wanted people to notice me.
00:32:24
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to be seen. I always wanted to have value.
00:32:27
Speaker 3: And I thought that like if I came to Nashville to get into the entertainment industry, so maybe I could get famous, and then maybe if the world loved me, then maybe I would have value.
00:32:38
Speaker 2: And I just realized all that was not true. That did not feel that hole.
00:32:43
Speaker 3: And so when I had Sonny, I was like I got to be valuable just because I'm existing, Like I need to find that value just because I'm her mom and I'm a human and I don't have to prove myself. And so yeah, I just everything I was doing to try to prove myself, I just stopped.
00:32:58
Speaker 2: And so I just got really cool. I became super like reclusive.
00:33:03
Speaker 3: I didn't really go out my husband, and I quit drinking, like still don't drink, but like didn't go part stop partying and just kind of like lived this really quiet life, did a lot of soul searching, hired a life coach, and I just was like, who am I?
00:33:18
Speaker 2: Like, who am I without everything else?
00:33:21
Speaker 3: With that everything I'm chasing without validation, And I realized that I've really did find my worth. I realized that I am truly just spirit. I'm a divine spirit. I'm here to have an existence like this incredible experience. I was blessed with this child and a family, and like, what I'm supposed to do is just navigate my life the best I can and listen to my alignment and my higher calling. And it took me a long time to find that voice, Like it took me a long time to hear that voice, Like I couldn't hear it because it was so loud in my life. So I just got so so so so quiet that I could finally hear my intuition.
00:33:56
Speaker 2: I could finally hear my gut. I could finally hear God speaking to me.
00:34:00
Speaker 3: I could finally hear it when I was like on my journey and not and like I could discern it. I finally got discernment because it took me just I just didn't have any discernment because I was so loud.
00:34:10
Speaker 2: In my life. And so then once I got discernment and I realized, Okay, I am worthy. I don't have to prove myself.
00:34:17
Speaker 3: I don't have to have anything other than just me being me and trying my best every day and showing up. And that's enough, and that's what I want Sunny to know. And so then I was like, I do actually like having blonde hair.
00:34:30
Speaker 2: I really miss my face lashes. I hate throwing wrinkles in my forehead and I would like to do that for myself. And so then I shot myself up with the botox, got a little lip filler, died my hair back blonde, and I decided, but I got lashes again.
00:34:44
Speaker 3: But I liked it because, like I could look at myself and be like, I feel beautiful and worthy without it. But I prefer to see myself with it for myself, not because I need someone else to think I'm pretty.
00:34:54
Speaker 1: Do you believe in psychics?
00:34:56
Speaker 2: Yes, I've been working on becoming one. I just took a three day of course where I've been trying to chalk to my spirit GUIDs.
00:35:02
Speaker 1: It's not like cryptocurrency. I don't think you can just learn.
00:35:05
Speaker 2: You can you can activate it.
00:35:08
Speaker 4: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, Welcome back to the Bobby Cast.
00:35:17
Speaker 1: I'm curious.
00:35:18
Speaker 2: Okay, what are you curious about the psychics?
00:35:20
Speaker 1: Know what you're saying. You can you can take a class and become a psychic.
00:35:25
Speaker 3: Give Julie Ryan a shout out. Yes, I just took her angels?
00:35:28
Speaker 2: What was it? Angels? Angelic?
00:35:31
Speaker 1: Do you know this sounds?
00:35:32
Speaker 2: I know I'm crazy.
00:35:34
Speaker 1: Okay, No, no, I'm not.
00:35:35
Speaker 2: I'm not.
00:35:37
Speaker 1: I'm so curious about this, but I just want you to know. To me, I'm like, uh no, I think you're very much a free spirit. I think those I think those cross I think yeah, yeah, yeah, I think the diagram of Leney Tune and free spirit there's some crossing there, Yeah, definitely. But I don't think you're Looney Tune. I think you're a great spirit. Thanks, a little looney yeah, but mostly great spirit.
00:36:06
Speaker 2: Thanks.
00:36:08
Speaker 1: How did you learn about a class where you can be a psychic?
00:36:11
Speaker 2: Through podcasting?
00:36:12
Speaker 3: Podcasting has like thanks for having me on your network, by the way, Bobby Bonen's pot Nashville podcast network. I have had the most amazing interviews because of the podcast, and like all these people have just like come into my life that like I would have never known, didn't even know they existed, treat me into totally different worlds. I got into like the mental health space a lot, and then I got into like the healing space. Like my podcast journey has reflected my mental health journey, and like I have really healed a lot of myself with these interviews because I've gotten to talk to people and I'm sure you probably have felt this way.
00:36:49
Speaker 1: Like feeling it right now, I need to know about the class that you're taking to be a psychic.
00:36:54
Speaker 3: Okay, so it's all about getting into the energy field. So Julie Ryan and also have another psychic named Gabby who I also love, who I met through podcasting, And I just now my discern A lot of people don't believe in psychics. They think they're sacrilegious, and that's totally fair and I get that, but like I have found that I feel like that can be a spiritual gift. That I think that like prophecy and all that kind of stuff can be a spiritual gift is really how you use it and look at it.
00:37:21
Speaker 2: Like I'm not using any of this to like I'm.
00:37:24
Speaker 3: Just I use all of these tools to clear myself of chains that I don't want to have in my life and to like try to get rid of like just limiting beliefs and to try to just it always comes back to you are enough, you are equipped. You can heal yourself. You can mentally heal yourself. You have to just get out of your boxes that we have been put in for so many years of just like human conditioning.
00:37:51
Speaker 1: Do you pay money for this?
00:37:53
Speaker 3: I a lot of it because of podcasting has been just like in people do pay.
00:37:59
Speaker 2: Money for that?
00:37:59
Speaker 1: You ever paid money for a psychic class?
00:38:02
Speaker 3: Well, yes, not for a class, but for a psychic Yeah, for a psychic session.
00:38:06
Speaker 1: I have okay, that not as weird. I'm not a big psychic guy. I get that. No, So I don't think that psychic is actally. I think it's hard to believe that there are profits and then be mad at people for saying their psychic and it's sacriligious because again, those are very similar things. Like if you believe in the prophecies and there were profits that said certain things, you believe in psychic. The words are just different.
00:38:29
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:38:29
Speaker 1: But so I'm not anti psychic because there are so many things that I can't see here smell feel understand. And for me to say that nobody else can see here smell understand that, I feel like that'd be very ignorant of me.
00:38:45
Speaker 2: Well, I think everybody has different gifts.
00:38:47
Speaker 1: I just think it's wild you can sign up for a psychic class.
00:38:52
Speaker 3: Okay, So first off, though, I don't think just everyone is signing up for this.
00:38:56
Speaker 2: I think you kind of have to be.
00:38:57
Speaker 1: Drawn to it or have money.
00:38:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean have to be able to pay for it.
00:39:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that they're kind of their psychic ability is pointing out who's going to give them money to take a psychic class?
00:39:08
Speaker 2: Right?
00:39:08
Speaker 3: But I will say then afterwards, there's these group sessions that you do, and so it's working on like calling on your spirit guys, because everyone has spirit guys. And I think I'm not really well versed in the Bible, but I think all that's you can find that in spiritual text. But like I now do these classes where you go and you do like workshops with people in person on zoom okay, and it's people who've been in the classes, and they stick together and you get together weekly and you work on it and like you all will like say, okay, like I have this going on with me, and everyone will like pull into their inner selves and like raise their their higher self and like try to like call upon.
00:39:44
Speaker 2: The higher energy like black belt bulls.
00:39:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are levels, but people are literally like able to communicate like I was shocked at myself.
00:39:55
Speaker 2: I did it one time. Within the class I was doing, this person was talking about her husband and I was like, I knew his name. It was Paul, And I was like, how did that happen? I know, I'm telling you it's very weird. And people were going.
00:40:06
Speaker 1: To be like, oh my god, I can't prove you're lying, but still stop it. It feels a bit like scientology.
00:40:14
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about scientific you climb your way up. Well.
00:40:19
Speaker 3: I don't know what people are trying to do with this. I'm just trying to get I just want to talk. I just want to have direct communication with God.
00:40:27
Speaker 2: And within myself.
00:40:28
Speaker 1: Could you do a prediction about me? Are you that psychic? No? I'm no.
00:40:31
Speaker 3: I mean I could maybe try, but I don't. I wouldn't trust myself. I know I would not give you a prediction about you. I could give you an energetic prediction based on like knowing you for so long.
00:40:41
Speaker 1: And seeing you. That's unfair because I could do that to you and I'm not psychic.
00:40:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean I would not say that. Maybe one day, if I get to that point, I'll.
00:40:49
Speaker 2: Come do it for you.
00:40:49
Speaker 1: So you pulled somebody's husband's name.
00:40:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't believe it. And then another one was we.
00:40:58
Speaker 1: Were it's crazy cool.
00:41:01
Speaker 2: Another one was.
00:41:02
Speaker 3: This woman was wondering if her son and not a past life because he was like so interested in planes and things, and so like we all like went in and tried to like connect and see and I literally saw a picture of him in my head and this plane with this outfit on, and then like four other people saw the same thing. And then Julie actually heard that his name was, like I brought the name was, and then we ended up. She said, but I see that he was the tech, like the he was the guy who fixed the planes, you know, mechanic, mechanic. And so then they look for the right brothers and I also had seen the right brothers too in my mental picture. And then someone looked up the name of the right brother's mechanic and it was like, oh my gosh, was that him in a past life?
00:41:46
Speaker 1: Good b who knows that's wild? You know where my are you.
00:41:49
Speaker 2: Going to air this and make everyone think I'm crazy?
00:41:52
Speaker 1: I don't have to make I okay. Here's where mike concern comes from.
00:42:01
Speaker 2: And I'm not an experts. I don't have great, perfect answers for this.
00:42:05
Speaker 1: My concern comes from when I think of psychics, the negative emotion I have is I feel like they are taking advantage of vulnerable people.
00:42:15
Speaker 3: I could totally see that for sure, and I think probably a lot of people are. That's why I'm not necessarily like looking for psychics. I want to tune in for myself, Like that's why I want to learn how to connect so I can do this for myself. So I'm not reaching out to other people to give me answers.
00:42:28
Speaker 1: You know, on record, my official relationship with psychic is that my feeling is negative about them because I feel like there are a lot of people proclaiming to be something they're not and taking advantage of vulnerable people. So what feels negative to me about it is that aspect of it.
00:42:46
Speaker 2: I totally agree with you.
00:42:47
Speaker 1: What I also feel is what I said earlier, where there is no way I can tell you something that I can't see here, touch smell is not true. Now I may feel that it's not true, but I can't prove it's not true. So I unequivocally cannot say it's not true. Right, And I'm double negative and the crazy out of it. But I think, for the sake of my explanation, do I think that I've met anybody who can tell the future. No. But if someone were to say, okay, today is worldwide truth today where only truths are told, yep, there are a few people on this planet who have an ability to see feel things that other people can't, I'll be like, oh, okay, I got it. It's got like the alien thing right now.
00:43:27
Speaker 2: How do you feel about that?
00:43:29
Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably I think they're with us. Probably.
00:43:32
Speaker 2: Do you think they're integrated, because a lot of people think they're already.
00:43:35
Speaker 1: Here, probably in some form. But again, especially even five or six years ago before this became what I think also is being used as a big distraction from what's the real thing. Epstein, Files, Warner Ran, all the bad stuff, kids getting raped, all this. I think we need something that, hey, look over here. So I think that's a reason. I don't think it's the reason it's all made up. But I think it's the reason it's out now, all the JFK stuff that really never came out. It was a distraction. They're like, we're releasing all the JAK. They didn't release all the JFK.
00:44:03
Speaker 3: What is what is the ultimate thing that everyone's trying to pull on over on us? Ultimate control or something. I can't figure it out.
00:44:08
Speaker 1: That's all. It's a complete corruption. Yeah, And if we don't look, we don't see all the bad stuff, and we're being distracted by all the stuff that's like aliens, JFK files. We're like, oh, look over here, squirrel that we're getting squirreled to death. And we have been for fifty sixty seventy five years, but we're getting squirreled to death. So it's keeping us from being mad and the things we should be mad about. I mean, we're getting we're screaming because it's wow, look at all these jobs that immigrants are taking. But we have billionaires that are that are hoarding all the money for themselves and not actually doing the work to help others, because they're making us go, hey, look how bad it is that the immigrants are coming in? You know, So all of everything's a distraction to me, I agree, so rich and powerful. They're making us all fight with each other and be distracted because they don't want us to see what's really happening.
00:44:59
Speaker 2: Right.
00:44:59
Speaker 1: That is that my feeling about it with aliens. I think it's just coming out now because it is a distraction. But I don't think it's all fake. I think two things can happen at the same time. I think there can be a lot of reality to it, and also just the timing of it feels like a distraction like that, it's it's a timing distraction. So they released the four types of aliens that have been discovered insectusoids, Nordics, grays. Uh, what was the other one? Which one was that one?
00:45:26
Speaker 2: I think I think there's pladiance, plans, pladience.
00:45:30
Speaker 1: The four that they said, Nordics and secticoids. Oh, that's what retiliens is. What's the fourth one, yeah, retilience. Yeah. So and then they're, you know, trying to see if there's genetically any cross breeding with the Nordics because they look like human. There's all this, right, Do I think that's all true?
00:45:48
Speaker 2: No?
00:45:49
Speaker 1: Do I think that in any grand decade after decade overarching conspiracy. I think with all that there's some nugget in there that is probably accurate, because these things they happen, and the ones that go away probably all wol Craft, but the ones that end up continuing for decades and decades and decades, there's probably some nugget in there. I do not think JFK was shot by a lone gunman, right, I do not. And if I would have said that fifteen years ago, people have been like, you're crazy. But there's been so much information released, even dripped out. Really nobody believes that anymore. There was some CIA, some mob. You're looking at JFK with Cuba and the relationships he had there. Now they're saying it could have been possibly because he knew of some of.
00:46:32
Speaker 2: So I don't believe anything from anybody, so honest with you, I think they're all lying to us.
00:46:37
Speaker 1: Same.
00:46:38
Speaker 2: So you need to run for president.
00:46:40
Speaker 1: I do not want to run for president.
00:46:41
Speaker 2: I think you should do it.
00:46:41
Speaker 1: I'm not running for office.
00:46:43
Speaker 2: Why not not?
00:46:44
Speaker 1: Now?
00:46:44
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm just not. That's not a hard no, though.
00:46:47
Speaker 1: No it's not. But it's just not.
00:46:48
Speaker 2: It's not okay that you might run for president. One day. It's not you're gonna run.
00:46:51
Speaker 1: For my wife? Would hay?
00:46:53
Speaker 2: Aren't you gonna run for like a governor of Arkansas?
00:46:56
Speaker 1: Right now? I'm not, Nope, because every time I've said that, it turns into a huge story and I I don't want to deal with it. So nope, right. No. I bought a house in Arkansas once because I thought I was that close to doing it because.
00:47:06
Speaker 3: You just wanted to change the fix it up? Like you just why why do you want to do it?
00:47:12
Speaker 1: Well, the rule is you have to live there seven years, and I had easily accomplished that because I grew up my entire life there. But I just wanted to have a residence there. So if I did run, people were like, he doesn't even live here.
00:47:22
Speaker 3: Why what makes you want to run? Like, what would make you want to run?
00:47:26
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people want to run because to them, that is how they can have celebrity status.
00:47:33
Speaker 2: Okay, well, obviously that's not what you're going for it, right, So what are.
00:47:36
Speaker 1: You going if I don't need that? There's only like three things that I A plus care about okay, Food insecurity, okay, because if you can't eat, you can't learn. If you can't learn, you can't get an education and break generational cycles of poverty. So food insecurity is to me number one. Education pops in there, because if you can't learn, you can't break those cycles in any way. But those are not things that get a lot of attention on social media. Those are not culture fights. That that's what makes the news like we're going to fight about let's just have some culture wars, and that ends up being what are the headlines. I'm just not interested in those. Yeah, I have feelings about those, but those aren't the most important things to me. And if you're not running on things that are making headlines and grabbing the algorithm, you're just not going to exist in that space. Also, when I did start to consider running, the hard lesson for me was it's very little about what you're doing on the campaign trail. It's just calling people begging for money the whole time for your campaign.
00:48:50
Speaker 3: Do you feel though like things need to change or you're not satisfied with how things are?
00:48:54
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone would be satisfied with how they are so and I don't think you can fix everything. I mean, that's why i'd have like two or three things that I would care about the most. But I think I can change as much now as I could if I were doing that there, And so yes, I thought about it. But why I want to run is not the reason that people want to run. Now. I don't need the fame, I don't need the notoriety.
00:49:18
Speaker 2: You just do it for like the reason Spencer.
00:49:19
Speaker 1: Prattest, he's doing it for fa down now that If you think Spencer Pratt is legitimate, you're out of your mind. He is. He's a rich kid that blew a bunch of money. His house burned down, And yeah, I hates that his rich house burned down and a lot of people get screwed out of that. And where's the money. There's coruption everywhere all the time. But you got to use your discernment here, be psychic.
00:49:38
Speaker 2: So you're not. You wouldn't do it like that, You're not.
00:49:41
Speaker 1: I just don't believe he's doing He's already hired a team for his reality show. If he gets the job, like, then you ain't doing it for the real job. You're doing it because you found something. And I think the original reason he said I'm gonna run was speaking up for a lot of people whose house was burnt down and hey, where did that money go? And I completely understand that, But do I think he really cares about folks? And do I think he's really struggling and he's living in an RV. No, he's staying in a fifteen hundred dollars a night hotel. He's been a rich kid who's wants to be on TV. So I think that's bad for somebody like me who they go, well, he just wants to continue. I don't need it, right, I don't need that. They don't need the job.
00:50:20
Speaker 2: Well, it didn't be a lot of stress.
00:50:21
Speaker 1: I don't want the job.
00:50:22
Speaker 3: It's a whole new world of stress. Politic stresses me out.
00:50:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
00:50:25
Speaker 3: And I'm actually not smart enough for politics because no, no, I'm not, because I ultimately think everyone's a liar.
00:50:31
Speaker 1: Yeah me too.
00:50:32
Speaker 2: So then I'm like, I don't even know how to have an argument because I think everyone's lying.
00:50:36
Speaker 4: The Bobby Cast will be right back, and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
00:50:44
Speaker 1: Closure rise.
00:50:45
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm not doing something. I'm not capable.
00:50:48
Speaker 1: Well i'm not close, Rice, No, you're looking ahead.
00:50:55
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm not capable. This is you are putting something on me that is not true for me.
00:51:00
Speaker 3: I am trying to connect with my personal higher spiritual self.
00:51:04
Speaker 2: But I am not a.
00:51:05
Speaker 1: Said you were training to be a psychic.
00:51:07
Speaker 3: I'm training to connect with my personal higher self, and of that lends itself to having some of those abilities.
00:51:12
Speaker 2: I would be very excited, but who knows.
00:51:15
Speaker 1: What's my grandma's name?
00:51:16
Speaker 3: I I'm not a psychic. If I ever get that, I will come back and I will do a full reading on you, Bobby if I can. But as of now, that's not that's not my destiny.
00:51:29
Speaker 1: We'll ever spend time with my real dad again. I believe so that psychic or just you're hoping. I just believe you will let me be psychic. Nope, all right, think you will let me do it again? Nope?
00:51:41
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I think everyone has free will. If you do, if it's I don't know.
00:51:44
Speaker 1: I'm a big free will guy too. Yeah.
00:51:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think you ultimately might see your daughter again.
00:51:48
Speaker 1: All right?
00:51:51
Speaker 2: Well, what else do we need to cover?
00:51:53
Speaker 1: You know what? I think the great thing is I think we covered it.
00:51:57
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:51:58
Speaker 3: I did send myke a video of me singing Dixie Chicks when I was in high school.
00:52:02
Speaker 1: Well, we were gonna talk about the Dixie Chicks. Going back on chicks. Yeah, they were the Dixie chi.
00:52:06
Speaker 2: They were the dit Chricks in high school. And another the Chicks.
00:52:08
Speaker 1: They're doing the twentieth anniversary tour. You have a video of you singing it where.
00:52:12
Speaker 2: When I was in high school in front of my Christmas treet with my best friend. Cowboys take Me Away?
00:52:16
Speaker 1: So best, best best chick song ever?
00:52:18
Speaker 2: I think White Opened Spaces and Cowboys take Me Away? What about you?
00:52:23
Speaker 1: We can't pick two though.
00:52:24
Speaker 3: Okay, Cowboys take me Oh, I have to their tie. Cowboys take Me Away and White Open Space.
00:52:31
Speaker 1: You can't pick two though it's a tie.
00:52:34
Speaker 2: This is it's a flat Tight's like if you have twins, are you gonna pick one? You say, pick a favorite kid. You gotta pick both.
00:52:38
Speaker 3: You can't pick one. Okay, what's your favorite? Well, what's your favorite two?
00:52:47
Speaker 1: That's not what the question was. The question wasn't what's your favorite two Dixie Chicks.
00:52:52
Speaker 2: I'm asking you what's your favorite two Chicks song?
00:52:57
Speaker 1: Probably Wide Open Space is a Cowboy take me away?
00:53:02
Speaker 2: So you can't pick one?
00:53:04
Speaker 1: Pick one White Spaces.
00:53:06
Speaker 3: I was gonna say that but then I couldn't because I cow would take me away. It's like the best song ever written besides Wide Open Spaces.
00:53:13
Speaker 1: Wide Open Spaces makes me feel and look forward to something. Cowboy Take Me Away just feels weird if I think about it happening to me.
00:53:25
Speaker 2: Who would you love to take you away? What cowboy would you dream of?
00:53:28
Speaker 1: I mean, if I had to dream, it's probably Riley Green, But.
00:53:30
Speaker 2: It's I was gonna say, John Party, you picked Riley Green over John Party? Does John know that.
00:53:36
Speaker 1: If I were John Party? Was your boy? Is? If I had to have a romantic relationship with a cowboy, I picked Riley's. Yeah, I know John? You John, I'm closer to John, so you.
00:53:49
Speaker 2: Are more attracted to Riley than John.
00:53:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, if it was like you got to make out with one of them, if you're and I've never made out with the dude, But if you're like you have to make out with one of them, do.
00:53:59
Speaker 2: You think Riley he's gonna be thrilled? W he knows this?
00:54:02
Speaker 1: I probably won't because I know Riley I do. I know Riley Green. I don't think he'll have an opinion either way.
00:54:09
Speaker 2: But if it's mate, what would it take for you to make out with a dude?
00:54:14
Speaker 1: If someone's like, hey, you're acting in this scene. Okay, if it was like fear factor, not much, like I'm not against it, it just doesn't it's just not.
00:54:21
Speaker 2: My friend pretty right there?
00:54:23
Speaker 1: Yeah something. But it's like I'm not like, oh god.
00:54:27
Speaker 2: No, okay, you're not. You're not like repulsed, like you're like, I'm done with it. You're good, because some guys are like, oh my god.
00:54:36
Speaker 1: Never. I think it's kind of an act. I mean, I don't want to make out with a guy, but I have no problem with guys making out. And if if again, if someone's like, hey, you're gonna do a scene and you're gonna make out with Riley Green or John Party or all right, cool.
00:54:49
Speaker 2: Okay, I would just like prepare for that, like mentally, or you just go for it.
00:54:54
Speaker 1: Probably just I mean, like John, I'd be like, John, are you cool with this?
00:54:59
Speaker 2: They just close your eyes and go on.
00:55:01
Speaker 1: Just yeah. The like if it was a fear factor and I'm doing the show and I'm like, okay, now you gotta kiss John Party, to me, it's just like eating a bug, yeah, which I don't want to do if it's like I don't want to eat a bug.
00:55:11
Speaker 2: I'd much rather kiss John Party than eat a bug.
00:55:14
Speaker 1: For sure, I might eat a bug before kissing John Party if I had to pick. But yeah, yeah, I'm wrong with it. Love that.
00:55:23
Speaker 2: I love No restand on the spectrum.
00:55:24
Speaker 1: You know it's not a spectrum.
00:55:26
Speaker 2: I mean it kind of is. Some people are like, adamantly, no, I would never do that. Other people are like sure for you know, fear factor.
00:55:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, pick a bug, yeah, not like I've never seen a dude rum like I want to make out with him. Yeah, but it doesn't like like gross me out or anything. So yeah, cowboy take me away? If he made me a picture to be Riley Green picking me up? I think? I think again, I think again. Kevin Costner is probably too old. Christophersoftson best cowboy dead.
00:55:52
Speaker 2: Dead, I know, but like in our dreams, no.
00:55:54
Speaker 1: Best cowboys ever alive alive. Let's do. We're gonna end with this best alive cowboys ever go? You get first, pick three each.
00:56:06
Speaker 3: I don't really, but I mean, are these real? Are they real cowboys? Are they just people who dressed like cowboys and not like cowboys? What makes a real cowboy. We gotta have some credition.
00:56:15
Speaker 1: Cowboy hat, that's that's outfits. Let me finish. You didn't let me finish. You're a cowboy if you wear a cowboy hat and you're comfortable on a horse, because you've been on a horse enough.
00:56:26
Speaker 2: But can you like do chores on a can you like rope?
00:56:29
Speaker 1: Can you like fix if you're gonna like make the bed on it?
00:56:32
Speaker 3: Like you like you like heard the cows and like you know, like, are you like.
00:56:35
Speaker 1: Working cowboy ish? But I think this if you're comfortable on a horse because you've been on a horse enough in your life, so act and you traditionally no, this is real, and you traditionally wear a cowboy hat, I think that's a cowboy.
00:56:47
Speaker 3: Okay, then I'm gonna go with Brandon's Sklinner or whatever his name is.
00:56:51
Speaker 1: Sure who that is?
00:56:52
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, you are? You know who he is? Brandon's Sklinar Brendan.
00:56:56
Speaker 1: How are you arguing with me about who? I know who it is?
00:56:59
Speaker 2: Because you know? Oh yes, because he's like a heart throb out there in the world.
00:57:02
Speaker 3: He he was in that like nineteen thirty eight movie show where he was like acting like a cowboy, so he knows how to ride a horse.
00:57:10
Speaker 2: Brandon Sclennaire s Glenar. Let's see Sclennin s Glenar. You know him? He was in the.
00:57:18
Speaker 1: First of all. I don't know him. You know he looks familiar? Was he?
00:57:23
Speaker 3: He was in that movie with Sidney Sweeney and The Housemaid.
00:57:27
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't watch The Housemaid. I don't know who this dude is, but he is good looking, and I will accept it.
00:57:32
Speaker 2: Shocked that you don't know who that guy is really.
00:57:35
Speaker 3: I don't look up dude, heart throw, but he's on TV show, he's out there in the wild.
00:57:39
Speaker 1: That's my number one. You take I number one.
00:57:42
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, are we talking like I need to know a real cowboy? See?
00:57:45
Speaker 1: I would prefer, oh, if you're gonna do real cowboys and okay my uncle Rick, Okay, no, that's not what we're doing here.
00:57:54
Speaker 2: Hey, you go first, Kevin Costner.
00:57:55
Speaker 1: No, I'll go first, Riley Green.
00:57:57
Speaker 2: These are all actors and singers though, Riley Green go, So who looks the best as a cowboy? Looking comes to.
00:58:05
Speaker 1: Mind when you say a cowboy go?
00:58:07
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, uh, I don't know. I don't really I don't have a great answer.
00:58:16
Speaker 3: I want like a Texas cowboy because I grew up in Texas and I grew up around celebrity.
00:58:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, but are anyone real? Are there any more real cowboys?
00:58:24
Speaker 3: Where have all the cowboys gone? Isn't that that song that Sarah?
00:58:27
Speaker 1: Where are they? Yeah?
00:58:32
Speaker 2: I want to know where are they?
00:58:34
Speaker 1: So you don't want to take part in this extra one?
00:58:36
Speaker 2: Brandon Sclennar Sclinner.
00:58:38
Speaker 1: Okay, Doak Prescott?
00:58:41
Speaker 2: Who Dak Prescott, Diet Prescott?
00:58:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, die at Prescott, Diet Who's say that again? Dak Prescott, Dak Prescott, Dak Prescott?
00:58:51
Speaker 2: Who's that?
00:58:53
Speaker 1: Texas?
00:58:54
Speaker 2: Who that is?
00:58:55
Speaker 1: Now? He's a cowboy. He's a literal cowboy. So if you don't know who it is, that's fine. I'm not gonna make you look him up. I like him great. My second pick as far as cowboys, I'm gonna go Dak Prescott. Okay, go ahead.
00:59:06
Speaker 2: This is a hard one.
00:59:07
Speaker 1: I know we're just doing three each.
00:59:09
Speaker 2: Okay, three each? Can I pick John Wayne dead? So they have to be totally alive?
00:59:17
Speaker 1: Okay? M I don't.
00:59:27
Speaker 3: I don't really have like a fictional cowboy that I'm into. I mean, let's go with I like on Yellowstone, the guy who's.
00:59:35
Speaker 1: The singer Ryan Bingham.
00:59:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's not necessarily a real cowboy fair enough.
00:59:39
Speaker 3: And also I'm just kind of going on handsomeness great and like they portray a cowboy.
00:59:44
Speaker 1: You made this game up on the spot. Then I'm gonna go with Since I've got Riley Green and Dark Prescott, I'm gonna go with Jason Whitten. Thank you. You don't have to know who it is.
01:00:01
Speaker 2: I'm just going to give me some details.
01:00:03
Speaker 1: Jason Witten, I don't know, big dude. Yeah, I don't know. Is an act cowboy?
01:00:08
Speaker 4: No?
01:00:09
Speaker 1: Just like a cowboy there?
01:00:10
Speaker 2: How do you just know regular cowboys?
01:00:12
Speaker 1: I don't know.
01:00:13
Speaker 2: Where do you meet them? Always a TV cowboy?
01:00:17
Speaker 1: Yeah? TV?
01:00:19
Speaker 4: Does?
01:00:19
Speaker 2: He acts like a cowboys?
01:00:20
Speaker 1: Actually we may even live here now, but he's a real cowboy. Yeah. Last one for you, you should get John Party on the board.
01:00:32
Speaker 2: I like John Party. Yeah, he might be sad if we didn't pick him.
01:00:35
Speaker 3: Let's go John Party, Okay, sell want him to feel left out considering you're gonna kiss Riley before him.
01:00:40
Speaker 1: Sure, I'm going Riley Green, Dak Prescott, Jason Whitten.
01:00:44
Speaker 3: This is like this isn't my true answer. I need to I need to research this. I would give you different answer if I can research. Okay, but my fake.
01:00:50
Speaker 2: Answer is Brandon's Glenar Okay, Ryan Bingham and John Party.
01:01:02
Speaker 1: Okay, there we have it. There it is uh and we before we started with you, we were talking about your podcast. But would you like to say what it's about again?
01:01:10
Speaker 2: And you've never come on my podcast ever, I'm.
01:01:13
Speaker 1: Not psychic, and if you should have used your psychic ability to know I was never coming on.
01:01:16
Speaker 2: But you've never come. You've come on other people's podcasts on the.
01:01:18
Speaker 1: Network and you've never know that's true, I've never I've never been on Amy's. You want Jose's Jose's my vet, Well, I'm your friend, Jose's my vet. Well, I'm don't need to show up with a bunch of crystals and be like I'm out here.
01:01:29
Speaker 2: No, No, I am not that woo.
01:01:31
Speaker 1: Okay, are you ever.
01:01:34
Speaker 2: Going to come on a podcast?
01:01:35
Speaker 1: I don't know why I would.
01:01:36
Speaker 2: Why would you not?
01:01:37
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know why I would. But if you can present a good I really don't do many podcasts of other people.
01:01:45
Speaker 2: I believe you.
01:01:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's like I say stuff all the time on like ninety on my own, but it's called Get Real with Caroline Hobby.
01:01:52
Speaker 2: Don't ever expect an episode from Bobby Bones on there.
01:01:54
Speaker 1: But what will we even talk about that I haven't talked about a hundred times on my own my own channels.
01:01:58
Speaker 2: We have a great time.
01:01:59
Speaker 1: Okay.
01:02:00
Speaker 2: Don't you want to know?
01:02:00
Speaker 3: Don't you want to like check out the people who are on your network to make sure they're doing a good job.
01:02:05
Speaker 2: Don't you want to get in there and see for yourself.
01:02:07
Speaker 1: I listen, I look at data to see stats. We're good.
01:02:14
Speaker 2: Okay.
01:02:15
Speaker 1: Get Real with Caroline Hobby is the name of your podcast.
01:02:18
Speaker 2: Dreams are not coming true over here because Bobby's not coming on for now.
01:02:23
Speaker 1: But you knew that because you're psychicsch all right, Caroline, thank you, hey, thank you for having me check out our podcast.
01:02:32
Speaker 2: This conversation.
01:02:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it had like eleven things that we're gonna do. We never really got there, but it's one.
01:02:37
Speaker 2: Of the things you wanted to talk about.
01:02:39
Speaker 1: It's okay, I'm gonna save it for the podcast another time.
01:02:42
Speaker 2: Okay.
01:02:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, check out Caroline's podcast and it's called Get Real with Caroline Hobby. All right, there she is Caroline Hobby. We will see you guys later on this week. All buy, everybody.
01:02:53
Speaker 4: This has been a Bobby Cast production.