Gervonta Davis-Lamont Roach PPV Main Event + Eubank Jr./Benn And Eggs? And Juan Manuel Marquez Nostalgia | BFW Preview Podcast

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The countdown is on to fight time.
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This is Big Fight Weekend. Now here is your host, TJ. Leaves.
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All right, we get ready for a weekend.
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He's Factor Bonte Davis headlining a pay per view in Brooklyn,
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New York, prefending his lightweight title against regional rival Lamont Roach.
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We are ready to discuss that and the other two
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world title fights right before in the junior middleweight division.
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In the preview mode, we also have an interesting speaking
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of the junior welterweight division, we have an interesting Suprio
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Mattias return in Puerto Rico, and much more, some.
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News including you bank and Ben and eggs.
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We're gonna talk about that and a lot more here
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on the Big Fight Weekend Preview.
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I am the somewhat capable host, TJ. Reeves.
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He is our insider, Dan Rayfield, Fight Freaks Unit, the
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Substack Newsletter.
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Love his insight.
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He helps us out all the time with the the
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inside scoop on all things, including eggs. We've never discussed.
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Do you prefer eggs over easy scrambled omelets? What do
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you prefer?
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I don't like eggs very much. Once in a blue moon,
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once in a blue moon, like maybe like an egg
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like a breakfast sandwich like that might be like what
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fried I guess or scrambled in it correct whatever, occasionally
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like an egg white.
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You know, I'm a big over easy guy, not a
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big guy with that. I'm an over easy guy as
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much an omelets. But Ben and you Bank decided to
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go raw with the eggs, and we'll describe there's more.
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U Bank on the side of.
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That.
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He was thanking his excellency for putting it on the show.
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Connor ben Is that was on the receiving end of that.
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All right, more on that in a little bit preview
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mode coming up. First, we need to do our diligence.
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Let me explain this that we had not really previewed
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the Junto Nakatani title defense because we quite did know
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how to fit it in with our podcast schedule where
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we were coming off the weekend recapping and by the
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time you the peeps that are listening heard the recap show,
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the Knakatani fight would have been over on Monday morning,
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Monday night in Japan, Monday morning in the United States.
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We're ready to talk about it now before we get into.
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Previewing, the Davis Roach PBC on Prime main event. So
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Nakatani did ko David Quaar, the Mexican opponent to retain
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the WBC bhantamway title. I did see this, you know,
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not a ton of action until boom late in the
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third round of this fight. All right, give us more
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on what you saw and what it means for the
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future for Knakatani off of Monday.
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Well, kna Katani just key's rolling along. I mean he's
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running like a you know, a bull in a China
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shop through the bantamweight division. Now that in Away has
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moved up from bandamweight and vacated the undisputed title and
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is now reigning as young disputed champ and one hundred
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and twenty two pound division, Nakatani has now taken over.
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How he hasn't unified titles yet, but he's been looking
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very dominating in his in his victories. He defended the
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title the WBC bell for the third time against David Kuahar,
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who is you know, a young Mexican fighter who had
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never fought in a twelve rounder, who had never fought
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outside of Mexico so far, but looked like he had
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some you know, some power and a good idea of
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what he was doing had some size. He was, as
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na Katani mentioned after the fight, he was the tallest
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opponent he had fought as abandoned weight about five eight
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and a half, which is just a little bit bigger
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than Nakatani. And for the first two plus rounds, I mean,
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he was losing the fight, but it wasn't like he
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was out of his depths, let's say. But as soon
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as Nakatani started to put it on him and lay
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on some nice shots, you know, he went down to
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the canvas and when he got back up, Knakatani like
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immediately blasted him with some really good strong left hands,
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and then he was on his rear end again. And
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you know, some people say he quit. I just think
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he just know what it hit him. I don't. I
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don't know.
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I gotta say I thought he may have had a
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busted nose.
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I mean, the nose was bleeding badly, and he had
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the look in his eye it was like he got
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smashed in the nose.
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Like I said, I just don't think he knew what
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hit him. But the nose wasn't bleeding from the standpoint
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usually think of bloody, no was like coming out of
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the nostrils broken nose. His blood was coming from a
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cut on the bridge of his notes. But either way,
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I mean it was he got cracked with some good
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left hands and kna Katani is an excellent puncher, so
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he put him away in three rounds. He was winning
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the fight, but without a lot of stuff happening, and
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it was over like that. Not the one time that
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Kwaar went forward and actually had Knakatani backing up. He
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landed some shots and put him on the ropes, and
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Knakatani came right off the ropes and put together some
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shots on him after that, and that's what caused his
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problems with the first knockdown and then the second knockdown.
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Like I said, he just sat there and took the count,
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looked a little bit discombobulated, like I said, somebody may
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have quit I Like I said, I thought he just
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got Clobberdon was sort of completely out of sorts and
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had no idea what hit him. But nonetheless, na Katani
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gets the victory, and it's an important victory because now
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you know he's looking forward to a probable unification fight
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with the IBF champion. So in the ring after the fight,
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you had Arroya Suki Nishida, who is not a well
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known fighter in the Way class, but as a new
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a new title holder, let's say, you know, he's only
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had it for a minute, but they were in the
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ring together. It's pretty clear what they're going to do
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is try to set that up when na Katani probably
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comes back in the spring, perhaps in the early summer,
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and it'll given them opportunity to unify belts. And the
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interesting thing about the Way class is that all four
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of the title holders in the bandamweight division are from Japan,
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So putting those fights together there would probably be some
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good interest in their country. I mean more so, let's say,
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than if it was a fighter from somewhere else. So
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we'll see if he can get two belts, you know,
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perhaps following anyways footsteps and put together all four belts.
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Easier said than done. All I know is this Nakatani
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is now thirty to zero with twenty three knockouts, and
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if you're doing a pound for pound list, I think
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it's quite reasonable to have him somewhere in the bottom
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top you know, bottom of the top ten.
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All right, also on this card, and I saw a
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little of this fight the Japanese bantamweight Tenshin Nashikawa, who's
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a former kickboxer, was finding Jason Maloney, the former WBO
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bantamweight champ, and Nashikawa ends up getting the decision.
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Tell me more about that as well.
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Well, he's only six and oh now after that victory,
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but he is a very popular figure in Japan from
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his kickboxing gaze. It's why he was in the co
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feature instead of the other title fight, which we'll talk
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about a minute. You know, he looked good. This was
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a distinct step up from the opponents that he had
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been facing in Maloney. Maloney was coming off of losing
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his bandamweight title in a tough fight, but still a
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credible fighter, still a good contender in the weight class,
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and this was an absolute step up in a test
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against a real guy. I mean, say what you want,
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maybe Maloney is not a powerful, pown guy, but he's
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been in with a lot of talented fighters and he's
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no joke. I mean, his brother Andrew's been a good
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fighter for a long time. Also, he had fought Nakatani
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and been knocked out, But so there's a dinercer in
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fighting Nakatani in a world chamionship fight, then fighting a
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Kickboxerho's now you know was five and ozer going into
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the match. So anyway, he won the unimous unanimous decision.
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Looked pretty good doing it, but it was a real fight,
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got a good test. Maloney did have a moment in
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the fight where he staggered uh nasakaw had him in
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a little bit of trouble, which he admitted afterwards that
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he had never been in that position before. But he
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got through it and you know, he moves on now again.
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We talked about how Nakatani is setting up this unification
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probably for his next fight. It looks like that when
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I don't know if it's gonna be the next fight,
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maybe two fights from now. But when Nasa Kawa comes back,
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they were positioning him to fight a bandam weight title
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fight against the WBO title er, which is a Yoshiki
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Takai who was also in the ring with him after
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the fight. So there's a lot of bandam weight action
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going on in Japan as the bottom line.
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All right, So one more thing from the card again.
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This was Monday morning US Monday night in Japan. Is
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Seya Sasumi, who ends up being in a dramatic fight
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against Higa. And tell me more about that battle as well.
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I mean this was an action fight as well in
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that card early morning hours US time.
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Yeah, this was a really good fight. I mean the
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Nakatani fight was not much a fight. The Nasakwa fight
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was a good fight, but not going to be in
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any conversations for the fight of the year. But Satsumi
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against Higa two was a really good fight. This was
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Sasumi the you know, they ended up in a draw,
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but he defended his WBA bandam whit title. It was
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all the three main fights were bandam white fights. They
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had fought, you know, a few years ago in a
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non title fight. This was in twenty twenty, before either
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of them were champions. Uh Hega went you know, he
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had been a WBC flyweight champion. This was just a
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regular ten rounder at the Corkuen Hall where they have
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boxing matches all the time in Tokyo. And it was
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Sasumi who was taken on Higa, who assume he was
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undefeated at the time, he had already had you know,
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three losses. I had I think had a loss at
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the time. Point though, is that they fought to it
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on that fight also a majority draw. Here they come
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back and now it's a world title fight for a
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Sassume's title, and they fight to another draw. I mean,
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go figure. Now, the way that this turned out to
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be a draw is because Assumi was behind, and he
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ended up winning all four the final rounds on all
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three score cards to pull out to draw. Sow cours
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mind not one fourteen, one fourteen on all three cards.
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So all three judges had the same six rounds. I
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don't know if they scored each individual round the same,
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but in the end they all came up with six apiece.
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So but he had been down seventy eight to seventy
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four and all three score cards after the eighth round,
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so he was able to preserve his title by having
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that big comeback in the last part of the fight. Now,
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the thing about it, though, is if you going to
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watch this thing, besides being an excellent fight, round number
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nine was you know, I mean, I know we're only
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in the beginning of the year. It was still in February,
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but I do believe that there's a good chance that
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this will probably stand up as at least a candidate
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among the conversations anyway of round of the year. Just
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I mean, what you want to see in these types
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of fights is you want to see good action. You know.
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Unfortunately for its assuming he was caught over his right
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eye because of a head butt that took place in
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the fourth round and that was pretty bad. But in
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the ninth round they both got knocked down and it
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was a tremendous battle. I mean what you want to see,
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and it was. I mean, if you walk up early,
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you had a good good time watching it. Because this
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opening fight of this triple header, I mean, it had
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showed more fights on the ESPN, plus they showed a
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couple of prospect fights also, but the uh, this flyway
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title fight was worth it. The Nasa Kawa against Mologne
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was a really good fight. And even though na Katani
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wasn't so much a great fight, it was a short
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fight so you could go back to sleep when it
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was over.
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And nobody went to sleep in the fight that you're
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talking about, despite both guys being down. And by the way,
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a shout out because we always give out love. Shout
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out to Christina Puncher and MICHAELA. Mayer on the call
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because as you mentioned, they were up in the middle
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of the night. Early morning Pacific time, way early, in fact,
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probably up all night Pacific because.
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They were studio in Vegas.
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on several things. So shout out to them on the
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call of that Japanese card. As we gave it a
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little recap here to begin the preview podcast, because that
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all came on Monday. All right, So we'll get into
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that in a few minutes. Let's get to it. They
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had the final press conference earlier today. Weigh in coming
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on Friday, as we do this Thursday night into Friday.
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Gervonte Davis is back with Lamont Roach. This took a
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while longer. This was supposed to have been a December fight.
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Then they couldn't find the date in the arena to matchup,
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so we had to wait all the way till March. First,
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it is now fight weekend in Brooklyn. What are your thoughts,
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Dan Well?
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At number one, there's gonna be a big crowd there
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no doubt about it. I mean, Tank Davis sells, He's
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gonna have another sellout. It's probably gonna be the biggest
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gate in the history of the Barclay Center for boxing.
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He is a phenomenon and when it comes to selling tickets,
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and it's not just in the home region. It's not
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just that he sold out in Baltimore or he sold
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out in Washington, DC, where he has sold out in
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both locations. He has sold out in Los Angeles, he
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has sold out in Las Vegas, he has sold out
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in London, out in Atlanta. I mean, people love to
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see Tank Davis. He has something about him that the
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fans gravitate to. Whether it's just his his personality, it's
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his obviously his punching power. You know, the kind of
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way he looks, whether it's the tattoos or you know,
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he does have like the smile, whatever it is, people
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like to watch Tank Davis fight. And he's going in
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with a with a quality opponent in Lamont Roach. I
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know a lot of people have complained that it's not
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a big name. It's not chakor it's not Loma, it's
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not Tia Fimo or somebody on that level. But Lamont Roach.
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Like Tank Davis, who had formerly been a title holder
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in the junior lightweight division, Lamont Roach currently is a
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title holder in the junior lightweight division. He's moving up
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to take on this fight. They are regional rivals, as
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you mentioned. One is from Washington, Lamont is from Baltimore.
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I mean Lamont is from Washington and Tank is from Baltimore.
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But both have popularity in Washington, d C. And they
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fought two times as the the amateur ranks. Tank got
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two close wins over him. Nobody really disputes that they
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know each other. They've been around each other. They definitely
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respect each other. If you notice there hasn't been any
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wild trash talk. You know, they may have had their say,
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but it's been respectful because they know each other. Matter
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of fact, it was Lamont Roach Senior, who has been
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his son's trainer throughout his career, who has also worked
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with amateurs and was Tanks one of Tank's coaches when
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he won a national Golden Glove. So the teams know
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each other, and it's gonna match. It's gonna come down
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to this, it's and this is the way this rompis
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pretty much most of the Tank fights Ken Lamont Roach
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avoid the massive bomb for twelve rounds. Most guys haven't
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been able to do that. The one advantage that I
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give to Roach is just from a pure boxing point
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of view, from a pure skills point of view, he's
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probably and I won't even see probably. I would say
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he's definitely the best pure boxer that Tank will have
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ever faced. And I say that with the caveat being
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that when Tank fought Yur york Is Gimbo, who is
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a brilliant boxer, but a wild man, you know, an
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Olympic gold medals, an electrifying fighter, he was way past
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his prime. Yes, Lamar Roach is in his prime. And
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so I believe that Lamana is by far the best
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pure boxer that Tank will ever fought. And Lamar Roach
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has never been knocked down as a professional ori as
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an amateur. And so the question is can he take
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what Tank is going to dish out? And here's the
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thing about Tank also, he doesn't throw a lot of punches.
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He's actually throws very very few punches. But he's very
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economical because he lands. If you look at like compy box,
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he lands among the highest percentage of any you know,
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top fighter in the sports, certainly among the champions. So
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when he throws, you know, he generally you know, around
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a little less than half the time he's gonna connect,
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and so it's up the roach. Can he get out
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of the way for twelve rounds? That's hard to do.
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So I could certainly envision a fight where Tank is uh,
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maybe not doing great, maybe even losing like we've seen
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in the past, but eventually he finds, you know, the
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boom goes the dynamite.
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Yes, two examples of that is the Roly Romero Ko
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in this building splatt him. And the other one I
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keep thinking of is that uppercut on Leo Santa Cruz,
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which Santa Cruz was having success, was in the kitchen
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and was having some success punching and counter punching until
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as you just said, Boom goes to dynamite with one
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of the knockouts.
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Listening of his career.
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In June, in Tank's last fight last June, Tank was
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only up one point on all three cards against Frank Martin,
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and that was a real fight. They were being, you know,
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locked in a very competitive battle, and once again comes
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the eighth round and Tanks ends up scoring an absolutely
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spectacular knockout that makes everybody's lists, you know, of their
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top knockouts of the ear. So that's that's sort of
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the intrigue here is is how how does how does
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Lamont survive twelve rounds? And if he does so, will
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it be able to outbox a much more economical puncher.
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Lamont probably will throw more shots than Tank Davis, but
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he'll be taking a gamble because every time you throw
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a punch, you'll leave yourself open to some degree. And
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so I do again, I'm not saying it's a superstar
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fight like it would have been with some of their names,
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but I've always said from the first time this fight
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was mentioned in me that while it may not be
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what we desire most for a Tank opponent, I do
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view this as, you know, a serious fight. He's not
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fighting a shlub Well. Matt Roach is a talented boxer,
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no doubt about it.
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Schlub makes the podcast as well might the first And
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by the way, we segue again to the bet US
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Boxing Show live at one Eastern time depending on when
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you're hearing us on all their platforms will handicap this fight.
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Rayfiel and now will make some predictions on this So
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on the immediate undercard and the co feature, and in
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the fight right before that, they're both junior welterweight title bouts,
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with Jose Valezuela meeting Gary Anjuan Russell for the WBA
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Junior welterweight title and Albert Poo returns to fight Sander
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Martin for the WBC Junior welterweight title. So intrigue right
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before the Davis fight and the junior welterweight division, and
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we can't we don't have to think too far ahead
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that the winners are probably fighting, and the winners may
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be a candidate to fight who Javonte Davis somewhere down
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the road maybe who knows, But ahead, start with Valenzuela
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and Gary Antoine Russell and we go from that.
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I do think what you're saying is accurate that the
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guys who were fighting on this undercard, in terms of
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those other junior welterweight fights, they're basically auditioning to be
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a future Tank opponent, and that's smart from the perspective
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of the PBC people that put these events together. Vellan
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Zuela would probably be the biggest one because he's got
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the best name. I guess. But if it was Gary
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Antoin Russell, it's another Washington d C versus Baltimore kind
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of regional fight because Gary Antoine is is a Washington
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d C fighter. Obviously, he is the brother of the
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former featherweight titlder Gary Russell Junior, who was his trainer. Obviously,
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they were both trained by their father, Gary Russell Senior,
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who passed away not that long ago. That was a
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you know, a big big deal in the in the
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DC area for such a respected member of the boxing
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community and Gary Singer. But anyway, Velanzuela, this is a
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big opportunity for him. It's a big opportunity for Gary
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Antoine Valezuela in I would consider like a mild upset,
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not a massive upset, but an upset. Had moved up
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from lightweight in August and he defeated Isaac Pittbull Cruise
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on the big Riat card in Los Angeles that Terrence
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Crawford Image AMV headline, and he won the WBA title
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over Pittbull Cruise in a split decision, in a good
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performance to get this belt. So he's making his first
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defense and he's not taking on you know, a very
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soft touch or anything like we see a lot of
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guys do when they come out for their first defense. Now,
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Gary Antoine Russell is super talented, undefeated seventeen year ol
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all by knockout was the United States Olympian but like
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his brother, maddenly maddeningly inactive, yes, and coming off of
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his first loss, which was a split decision that was
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in June against Albert Opeyo. They were fighting for the
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interim WBC title and of course, when Payo won that
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belt in that fight, it was soon after that Devin
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Haney gave up that title and made himself in a
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recess champion. So when that happened, Albert Opoyo was elevated
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and inherited the Devon Handy mandatory which is sandorm So
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that's why that fight is happening. But Vealezuela and Uh
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and Gary Antoine is an interesting matchup. See if Gary
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Antoine can bounce back from his first loss. He's got
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big punching power obviously comes from a boxing family, smart
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Olympian valans weel though he's you know, looked good his
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last couple of fights with Robert Garcine now as his
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head trainer. Starting with the pit bull fight, So a
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lot of intrigue in this particular matchup, probably the best
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fight of the undercard.
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I'm just looking back that Gary Antoine Russell fought in August.
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Of twenty twenty three.
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Who know, fight yep fought in June of twenty twenty four, who.
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Know fight s three fights in three years, So he.
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Fights in three years. I don't know what we're getting
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here on Saturday Night.
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And valan Zuela has been more active obviously.
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Yeah, no doubt.
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And then and then as for Poyo, he is again
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on the pay per view immediately before that with Sander Martin,
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the veteran, So go ahead into the break.
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Weeo had had the WBA belt previously, but remember he
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had a positive drug tast he got stripped to the title,
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you know, before he was supposed to have a fight
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and he was booted off show. He's you know, that
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was you know, an unfortunate situation obviously, but he has
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he has not lost in terms of in the ring.
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And you know, I think that the santor Martin playoff fight,
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they're both good fighters, and they're both were the top
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ten type guys in their division. And find it's for
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a title, but from an entertainment die, I hope I
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am dead wrong about this, But you know, I've never
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gotten the impression, frankly, that either one of them make
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particularly entertaining fights. Certainly Santor Martin. You know, he's all about,
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you know, driving you crazy and making you miss and
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and running around and just trying to outslick you and
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this and that. I mean, we saw how frustrated he
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made t Fimo Lopez in a decision loss that was close,
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that t Femo was so messed up from that fight
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mentally that it's the only time I can ever think
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of where the guy that won the fight, that didn't
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have an injury, did not come to the press conference
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because even though he won the fight, that was the
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fight where he was questioning himself in the ring. Sander
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Martin can drive you to drink, basically, is the bottom line.
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He's a He's a maddening fighter to fight. It has
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been very effective, what can I tell you? I mean,
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hopefully they turn into better performance and I think, in
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my mind is going to be the one thing Sander
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Martin you can't take away from him, though he's got
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you know, some people thought he'd beat t FMO that night.
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He certainly had a legit victory against Mikey Garcia back
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in twenty twenty one, cent Mikey into retirement. You know.
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So he's definitely a talented boxer. It's how much talented
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boxing can I take, you know, in one fight, because
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he does not make good fights unfortunately.
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Okay, we'll see on that.
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Two world title fights at one and just before that,
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Joanna's telez Or Tayez and Julian j Rock Williams will
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fight for the vacant WBA Interim Junior middleweight title. Here
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we go again with the WBA and all the secondary titles.
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But anyway, Tayas is somebody that I saw last October.
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There's high hopes for him. Jay Rock has been around,
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has taken some recent losses. He is a former world champion.
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Anything real quick on.
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That, Well, it's a great matchup in terms of like
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you want to see the crossroads kind of fight. This
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is what that is. TAAs to me is one of
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the best problem pick some boxing. I've had him on
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my prospect list the last couple of years. He's twenty
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four years old. He's a Cuban fighter, but he does
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not fight in the prototypical Cuban style, which is a
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lot of touch and move. He is a much more
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offensive minded fighter. He did not have a lot. He
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fought in the Cuban amateur system, but he didn't have
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years and years and hundreds and hundreds of fights to
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become totally indoctrinated into that style of fighting, and with
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a trainer like Ronnie Shields, who was an offensive minded
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trainer who I have a tremendous amount of respect for
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I have known for the better part of twenty five years.
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When Ronnie tells me he's the real deal, and I
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watch him with my own eyes, I believe what Ronnie says.
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Taees got a bright future. But this is I'm not
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saying he hasn't fought real guys so far, because he's
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actually has stepped up and fought legit guys, which is
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one of the reasons made him such an interesting prospect.
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He's only nine to oh, but he's already got wins.
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By a knockout against Sergio Garcia was like a second
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tier level kind of contender. He has a nice win
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in a knockout that took place in his last fight
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in October, where he knocked out Johann Gonzalez. That was
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a big win. Johann Anzas actually is also on the
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same undercard on one of the free prelims against the
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former champion, Jared Hurd. But Tayas has taken a step
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up against Jay Rock Williams, who you know, granted, is
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not what he once was and is not maybe showing
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the greatest chin when he's been in a firefight. Haven't
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been stopped in three of his four losses. But remember
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also that when he lost the previous loss he suffered
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in twenty twenty three, he got stopped by Carlos Sadamis.
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That was at midleweight, and he's now back at Jinger
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midaway where his other losses were a split decision to
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Latimer Hernandez that was kind of like, you know, I
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just don't think his mind was in that fight, and
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Hernandez has pulled upset. So the other loss he had
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was a knockout against Jason Rosario when Jason Rosario was
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not completely shot and is a tremendous puncher. That was
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the situation with that. So now he's taken on a
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guy like Tayaz has a big step up for Taz.
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Whatever you think about Jay Rock Williams, so I hope
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they produce some fireworks. I'll sell you this though. The
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more fireworks they produce, the probably worse off it is
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for Jay Rock Williams. But this has the potential, I
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think to be a pretty interesting fight and I'm a
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huge TAAs guy, so I'm looking forward to it.
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Jay Rock basically fights one way, stand right in front
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of you and slug and it can be to his
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own detriment, as we know, as you just laid out.
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All right, so we laid out the full pay per view.
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Let's talk a little more now about how you can
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see it, and let's do that right now as the
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preview does continue.
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Yes, he is back, and we have another.
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PBC on Prime pay per view to get to and
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this one interesting, especially with the rivalry. I don't know
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how he did between Jervonte Davis and Lamont Roach. They
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say they get along, but they're gonna be throwing fists.
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They're gonna be throwing patted fists at each other coming
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Saturday night on pay per view.
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And Mark Bocarti is back with.
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Us from PPV dot com to talk to us more
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about that. Good to be back with you are we
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allowed to break news on the podcast with Rayphil and
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me that you have been transcontinental since last you and
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I talked? Are we allowed to break news and discuss
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this on.
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The h I wouldn't want to break the news. I wouldn't.
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I wouldn't want to break the news while I was gone,
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just in case anyone wanted to on the inside of
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my house. But now that I'm.
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Back right well, like all these big time athletes to
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keep getting their stuff broken into and stole them, we
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can't let them know that in advance, I totally get it.
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Got wait am I am? I to understand Italiah? You
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what you have been to Italy and back and you
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are here and uh did you get anything to eat
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or anything to drink and see anything good over in Italy?
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Also, not only did I get something to eat, I
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had an exceptional meal TJ. As everyone who's been to
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Italy knows, at every meal that we went to it was.
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It was pretty incredible. And to cap off a great
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ten day trip, I came back on the day of
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Better we Have Beeble in time and was able to
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watch and enjoy that fight on pp dot.
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Com no doubt, and we were promoting that last week,
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did you agree that Beevil won the rematch?
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Did you agree with that?
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I did?
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I did.
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Yeah, I had him as a narrow winner, So I
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don't think you can argue that decision.
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And by the way, you had something for everybody to
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heavyweights where we had knockouts, you had Shakur Stevenson on that.
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You had a lot on that one. For sure.
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That's one of those cards that lives up to the
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hype and no doubt. Starting at what ten thirty am
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Eastern time, you know you.
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Need, we kept we kept joking Bacon and eggs and
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the British light heavyweights or Virgil Ortiz, take your pick,
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all across the United States. But this is the great thing.
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Let's bring it back to this. This is the great thing
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about PPV dot com. You buy what you want as
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a one off, no long term subscription needed. And the
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same applies here for the Jervonte Davis Lamont Roach showdown
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Saturday night at the Berkleys Center. We want them to
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purchase this through PPV dot com because this is gonna
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be an entertaining fight and there's no long term obligation
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pick it up on that.
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Yeah, yeah, no, indeed, we are excited to carry this event.
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You're right, you buy this event, no subscription. That's the
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key thing for us. We have some bells and whistles
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I know that we'll get into in a second. That
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always make it them, in our opinion, a more fun
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view experience than any other platform. But yeah, this is
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going to be a really fun fight. You mentioned the
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long history these guys have between them. I'll ask you
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this is there as big an underdog as you've seen recently,
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who's been as confident as he is? Yeah, mon roach right.
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The guy acts like he belongs.
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He well, and as he has said, he believes that
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he got the better of Jervonte Davis in their amateur
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days and he has been trying angling for this moment
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for several years and finally now has gotten in front
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of him as we come to the Barclays Center on
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Saturday night. Now, as we both know, with this sport,
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everybody's confident until they ding the bell, and then what
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happens after that, especially if Davis catches him, that's the intrigue.
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That's what we're about to find out, right.
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So some of these parallels you could bring back to
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Davis's last fight at Barkley's when he KOed Roley Romero, right,
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and Roley's got a mouth and he wasn't give it
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much of a chance going in, and he was, you know,
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he was talking a big game. But Dravante is just
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he's so crafty, right, He's got that killer instinct. He's
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one of boxing biggest stars, which is great when you're
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trying to, you know, sell the sport. So gonna be
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a good night in a big event on Saturday.
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Yeah, Rollie had a big mouth and Dravonte shut it
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with one big left hand.
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As it turns out.
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You mentioned, you guys do a fantastic job, and I
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love this whenever we get a chance to interact with
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the team that you have the fan interaction that is
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available through PPV dot com with Jim Lampley, with Lance
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Pugmar and our guys Dan Canobio and Chris al Jury.
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They all do a great job with the content. But
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the interactive part of that while the fights are going on,
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I see that I sometimes even participate myself, believe it
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or not, and join in what they're discussing as the
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fights go on.
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That's another feature as part of what you're offering.
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Seved it right, Yeah, And I don't know if it's
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my appearance on your podcast, DJ, but every event that
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we've done over the last you know, twelve months, the
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amount of interaction we have on the chat keeps increasing
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event to event to event. So with this last event,
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even the BiVO Betterbev, we didn't have as many buys
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as we do for a fight that starts in primetime
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on a Saturday night, but the amount of chat we
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had was just incredible. So I think it's really caught
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up now where people are buying on PPV dot com
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just to be able to participate in that, and it's
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it's showing in some really fun results with the interaction.
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Yes, indeed, all right, so one more time it is
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the Battle of Baltimore and Washington.
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D C.
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Gravonte Davis, by the way, says I'm gonna fight three
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times in twenty twenty five, all right, from his from
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his lips to our viewing and an interest pleasure here
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that we're gonna get this more than a couple of
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times because activity has been a big thing throughout the sport,
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lack of activity.
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So's with Davis, right, Yes.
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It's been nine months since he lasts correct what fourteen
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months I think between that fight so correct. Yeah, I'll
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believe it when I see it. In terms of three
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fights in a year, I hope for it. You know,
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we would love to help him be successful with three
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fights in a year, but with the recent track record,
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you know, I wouldn't bet on it, but I would
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hope for it.
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Stay tuned, stay tuned on that.
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And the one thing about him again one more time,
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is it doesn't matter if he has been in Las
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Vegas where he's fought, or he's fought in Atlanta. He
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has fought in Texas, he has fought at the Berkeley Centers,
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the Berkeley Center before. He brings a crowd in an
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electric atmosphere, and they're going to get to experience all
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of this in four K or ten eighty I on
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PPV dot Com with the Tank Roach pay per view
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main event coming up.
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Davis fights are always a spectacle, whether you're in person,
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whether you're watching it on PPV dot com, They're always
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a spectacle. Like I said, he's one of boxing's biggest stars.
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We love carrying his events. So it's going to be
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a fun night and I encourage everyone to tune in
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on PPV dot Com for it, no.
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Doubt, and in a couple of undercard World Championship fights
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at one forty one division up. And it doesn't take
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a genius to figure this out. For Jose Valezuela and
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Albert Pueo, the champions, they could be fighting each other.
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They do kind of plan these things out and size
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it up. So a big night of boxing coming Saturday.
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We want them to get in on PPV dot com.
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No long term commitment needed, Participate for the interactive part
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of this throughout the night. There's a lot of reasons,
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and then and then settle in for the main event
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one more time, right, Mark, great.
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Night of fights, watch it on PPV dot com. Simple
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as that, TJ.
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We love that. Mark.
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Good luck with everything with this. We will be with
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you down the road. We encourage people once more, if
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you are doing this, if you're purchasing the PBC on
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Prime pay per view, do it with PPB dot com.
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Mark, Thank you child DJ again we.
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Appreciate their sponsorship. Can't emphasize enough, Dan Rayfield that you
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do not need the long term subscription with any other
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streaming package. Just buy what you want with PPV dot com.
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And I should also add they have wrestling pay per views,
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they do concert events, other things on PPV dot com.
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Same deal.
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You don't have to have any kind of a long
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term six month, one year subscription by what you want
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with PPV dot com. So we appreciate the sponsorship that
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they have with us here on the big fight, we
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can preview.
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And podcast series. All right, but wait, there's more.
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Speaking of the junior welterweight division subrio, Mattias, former world
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champ at one point forty, is back. He's fighting in
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Puerto Rico. It's on De Zone as well on Saturday night.
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Gabriel Valenzuela. Another Valenzuela preview. This a little more for
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us here.
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Yeah, this is the main event on It's the Solida
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Promotions card along with Fresh Promotions in Puerto Rico, which
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is where Mattias is from. It will actually be his
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third consecutive fight in Puerto Rico. If you remember back
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last summer in June, he lost the world title in
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an upset to Liam Paro that was taking place in
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his hometown that was considered a major upside. He lost
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the decision. It was a competitive fight, but he clearly
717
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:06.200
was the looser. He came back in November against a
718
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:09.039
lesser type opponent, scored a secon round knockout victory, and
719
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:11.599
now he goes into this fight, which is an IBF eliminator.
720
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:13.960
So if he wins this fight, it puts him in
721
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:17.240
position in the mandatory to challenge the title holder, which
722
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:20.519
is Richardson Hitchins, who beat Liam Paro for the belt
723
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:22.960
that Paro had taken off of Mattias. So it's an
724
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:27.400
important fight for both of these guys. Balnzuela big underdog
725
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.079
for obvious reasons, got a good record, but doesn't really
726
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:33.039
have much to look at in his record by all.
727
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:36.519
You know, look, this should be if Mattias has got anything,
728
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:38.160
and we know what a great puncher is, this should
729
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:39.759
be an easy fight for him. Like, I don't have
730
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:41.640
high hopes for this at all. He's got a loss
731
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:44.359
to Montana Love, who turned out to not be much
732
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:47.400
of anything. He does have a win by split decision,
733
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:50.079
so that tells you what sort of close against Stevie Spark,
734
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:52.319
who has been in with some good fighters. But this
735
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:56.319
is largely you know, I haven't looked at the odds,
736
00:33:56.559 --> 00:33:58.440
but this is a wide fight, like whatever you want
737
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:02.160
to say about it, and you know, Bunswell is going
738
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:04.440
to Puerto Rico as the Mexican fighter to fight in
739
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:07.680
Mattias's home area. You know, he's obviously the quote unquote
740
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:10.199
opponent in this fight. He's got three losses, been stopped
741
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:13.280
just a one time. We'll see what happens, but I
742
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:17.239
have every expectation that if if Mattias is even close
743
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:19.880
to his game, that we're looking at a knockout victory
744
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:22.719
in favor of Sabrillo Mattias, and he'll go on, presumably
745
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:24.400
to challenge for the world title or a fight for
746
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:26.480
a vacant teller or something like that, but he will
747
00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:28.280
be in that position to try to win back the
748
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:29.880
belt that he used to have. He's a very exciting fighter.
749
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:32.320
Matias winn or lose. You know, he's you never know.
750
00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:34.840
He can throw one punch and knock a guy out.
751
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:36.760
That's the kind of pounching power. Yes, I mean he's
752
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:39.639
he's got the two losses, but in his twenty wins,
753
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:40.800
he's got twenty one knockdowns.
754
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:43.480
True, and you would hope because he was so awful
755
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:46.360
and tentative against Paro. We still to this second have
756
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:49.280
never figured out why that was in his hometown maybe
757
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:50.719
it was a hometown related thing.
758
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:51.480
I don't know.
759
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.840
With that, we'll see how Mattias looks. All right, some
760
00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:59.599
news and some nostalgia, all right. You keep saying that
761
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:02.320
you've been doing this now twenty five years. This is
762
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:05.239
a quarter of a century. You ever been involved with
763
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:08.679
a press conference with one guy smacking the other guy
764
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:11.679
with a raw egg like we've had now with Chris
765
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:16.599
Eubank Junior and Connor Benn. That happened at their news
766
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:18.679
conference on Wednesday?
767
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.320
What about egg? Egg on the face? Egg on the face?
768
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:26.079
Literally it was on Tuesday. Wednesday was Wednesday was the
769
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:28.760
off day where they did some promotional stuff, commercial shoots
770
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:31.119
and things like that. Then they did the second press
771
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:33.920
corrents in London on Thursday. The first one was in Manchester.
772
00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:36.199
And to answer the question is no, I've never seen
773
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:38.079
anybody use an egg and a press cards. I've seen
774
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:42.400
guys spit things, throw things, throw chairs, throw tables, throw punches,
775
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:46.159
you know, do all kinds of wacky shit, throw other people.
776
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:48.320
Who was the you did say that point? Who was
777
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:50.679
it recently? That through the belt? Was that last week
778
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:51.320
or two weeks ago?
779
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:53.880
That was David Morel throwing through the belt.
780
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:56.400
At David Bevenavita through his belt at David Benavidaz.
781
00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:58.480
I listened. I was at a press corments once where
782
00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:02.800
Bernard Hopkins and William Joppy were throwing chairs, Derek Tysaa
783
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:05.719
turning over a table, Derek Tasaura spitting the water, and
784
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:07.159
vitally Clitch goes face.
785
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:07.920
Uh.
786
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:10.480
I mean, we've seen plenty of all the scuffles. We
787
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:14.559
remember what happened with Canelo Alvarez and Caleb Plant. I mean,
788
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:18.239
I mean, there's been any kind of number of physical
789
00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:22.440
confrontations and or throwing of objects at press covers. But
790
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:25.760
an egg was not only was it an egg that
791
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:28.719
he that he smacked in Connor Ben's face, but he
792
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.599
had to have obviously premeditated because he had a clumb
793
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:34.599
to the arena with a pocket full of eggs, so
794
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:35.559
he could be ready to pull.
795
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:38.039
Is it confirmed that he had more than one egg?
796
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:40.480
I saw a picture It looked like he had a pocket.
797
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:44.840
Multiple multiple eggs, and he smashed one on the side
798
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:49.559
of Connor Ben's face, which I mean obviously and you
799
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:51.960
you pointed this out before we hit the record button.
800
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:54.960
This could have been a serious thing. If an eggshell,
801
00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:58.719
shark or something scratches the eye of Connor Ben while
802
00:36:58.719 --> 00:36:59.280
you're doing this.
803
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.239
It's not even just that. And when Eddie Hearn gave
804
00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:05.639
his comments to the Zone folks that were doing the show,
805
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.360
he said it sounded like glass breaking because so he
806
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:10.400
wasn't even sure was it actually saw the evidence of it.
807
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:12.320
But the thing about it is not just maybe you
808
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:14.079
get a shard in your eye and it has a
809
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:17.840
damaging impact because of that, but because it's you're kind
810
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:20.519
of taken by surprise, you know, you take a wrong step,
811
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:22.440
you hurt your ankle, you hurt your knee, you blow
812
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.400
out your acl you do something whatever, or you end
813
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:26.920
up in a scuffle. I mean, there could have definitely
814
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:28.559
been an injury. I mean I just mentioned at Kayla
815
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:31.360
Plant and Canelo, how lucky were they that when even
816
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:35.480
though the Canelo you know, opened a cut on Kayla
817
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:36.800
Plant that it didn't impact the fight.
818
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:39.639
It could it easily, Yeah, because he's smacked him back
819
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:42.360
and smashed his sunglasses and it cut him under the cheek,
820
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:43.960
not over the eye. If he cuts him over the eye,
821
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:45.079
the fights maybe delayed.
822
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:48.400
That's the point. So yeah, putting hands on people at
823
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:51.360
press conferences, I do not advocate that. I do not
824
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:54.079
support that. I think it's childish. It doesn't make sense.
825
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:56.840
You risk your money, you risk the event. You want
826
00:37:56.840 --> 00:37:58.519
to call each other dirty names, you want to talk
827
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:01.280
about their mama, whatever. You know, have your set, but
828
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:03.599
keep your fucking hands to yourself. I have a you know,
829
00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:05.440
I have a small I have a you know. My
830
00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:09.039
son is like a kid. We taught him, don't keep
831
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:11.280
your hands to yourself. I mean, right, and the other
832
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:13.480
kids in his class in sixth grade. Keep your hands
833
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:13.960
to yourself.
834
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:16.840
Do not put your hands on somebody else, much less
835
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:21.039
get a breakfast Entrey and try to do something with
836
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:22.079
a breakfast town tray.
837
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.880
Obviously, the reason he chose an egg is not lost
838
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:27.960
on anybody who follows what's been happening, and they spoke
839
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:31.280
about it at the second day a press conference on Thursday.
840
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:33.679
He picked an egg because of the fact that Connor
841
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:36.679
Ben when he failed the drug test that made their
842
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:38.360
fight in two thousand and two and a half years
843
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:41.840
ago get canceled. He claimed it was contamination from having
844
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:44.559
an abundance of eggs in his diet. I mean, whatever
845
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:50.360
you want to say. So that was the reason for right,
846
00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:52.840
but it was very childish, but other than that, it's
847
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:55.039
going to be a mega fight in the UK for sure.
848
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:58.400
They were talking about how they're holding this at the
849
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:02.440
Hotspur Stadium, Yes, sixty five thousand people or something like that,
850
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:06.199
where Tyson Fury has fought, where Anthony Joshua has fought.
851
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:11.400
That they had to get those tickets. A queue of
852
00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:14.440
one hundred and thirty thousand people apparently trying to get
853
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:16.360
tickets for a fight that won't even be able to
854
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:19.039
accommodate about half of them, right, So that tells you
855
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:21.840
how big this fight is. And it's amazing because it's
856
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:24.039
not a world title fight. It's just a good old
857
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:27.239
fashioned all British grudge match to the backdrop of their
858
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:30.519
famous fathers who put on two of the most boxing
859
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:33.800
matches thirty some years ago that are still revered in
860
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:36.920
British boxing lore. Now. Nigel Ben has been present at
861
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:41.079
both press conferences. Chris U Bank Junior, I'm sorry, Chris
862
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:44.280
you Bank Senior was not at the first press conference.
863
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:46.320
I had read that he was supposed to be at
864
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:48.239
the second press cards, but I watched the second press
865
00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:50.639
conference and I didn't see any evidence that he was
866
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:52.599
in the house. So I'm not sure what's going on
867
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.039
with that, but Nigel was there and Nigel by the way,
868
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:57.679
when they got into the scrum, Nigel grabbed christ You
869
00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:00.480
Bank around the Christian Bank junior around the neck during
870
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:02.599
the during the scuffle, I mean it's going over and
871
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:03.000
you all.
872
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:04.840
Got thirty We got thirty year bad blood with the
873
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:05.800
Bens and the U Banks.
874
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:07.719
You also got Eddie Hearn who was the promoter for
875
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.400
Ben and Ben Shalom who is the promoter for U Bank,
876
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:13.199
who can't stand each other. They were almost into a
877
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:15.159
scuffle at the fight at the press coverge. So it's
878
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:15.760
all chaotic.
879
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:17.920
And again this is two years delayed because of the
880
00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:20.519
drug test. Two and a half years delayed because the
881
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:22.480
positive drug test for Connor Ben. He's got nobody to
882
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:24.199
blame but himself on that.
883
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:26.320
So that we got the times blame the Eggs.
884
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:27.000
We got what we.
885
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:29.199
Got more time to hype it up because that's an
886
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:35.079
April battle coming at at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, all right.
887
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:39.599
So that's that's that sad news. Read this earlier in
888
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:42.679
the week on on two Fronts. Former three time world
889
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.840
champ Greg Hogan, who we just talked about in the
890
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:49.719
record breaking night of Julio Cesar, Chavez and Hogen fighting
891
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:52.599
in Mexico City in front of what did you tell me,
892
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:53.639
like one hundred.
893
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:55.239
And thirty two thousand, was it?
894
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:58.760
Or one hundred one hundred, two hundred and forty seven He.
895
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:02.559
Coold Lord Techas Stadium and Greg Hogan unfortunately has been
896
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:06.159
recently battling cancer and passed away at the age of
897
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:09.119
sixty four. Say a little more because we said some stuff,
898
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:11.039
you know, about a week and a half ago on
899
00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:12.679
the pod when that anniversary came up.
900
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.559
But mister, I mean he was a scrappy fighter. He was.
901
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:17.719
He fought a lot of top guys, Like you said,
902
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:19.480
he won titles three times, was never really able to
903
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:21.320
hang on to them for any length of time, but
904
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:24.320
on certain nights he had big, big nights. I mean,
905
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:27.159
he's not a Hall of Fame kind of fighter, but
906
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:29.119
he was for a long time one of the top
907
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:32.880
contenders and title holders between lightweight and junior welterweight. He
908
00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:35.840
finished with a record of thirty nine wins and losses
909
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:39.519
and one draw nineteen knockouts. His career ran from nineteen
910
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:42.239
eighty two to nineteen ninety nine, so really span virtually
911
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.199
the entirety of the eighties and nineties and found himself
912
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:47.320
in some major fights. Now, he's most remembered Hoggin for
913
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:50.039
fighting the fight that we talked about where the anniversary
914
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.559
was on February twenty at nineteen ninety three, where he
915
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:55.960
was the challenger when Julio Sesar Chavez was at his
916
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:59.360
peak as a as a reigning champion of the WBC
917
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:01.360
holding the one or forty pound title, and they drew,
918
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:04.039
like you said, to one hundred thirty two thoty seven
919
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:06.800
to s Techastadium, which is the biggest paid attendance in
920
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:09.599
the history of boxing, and he got his ass kick
921
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:12.519
for five lopsided rounds. He got beat up. Now the
922
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:14.199
famous thing that came from that, and we talked about
923
00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:16.320
this when we were discussing the anniversary back a couple
924
00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:19.039
episodes ago, which was when he was asked because remember
925
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:21.840
when Chavez fought him, Chavis was eighty four and zero,
926
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:24.480
and he was asked by some of the media like,
927
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:26.480
aren't you intimidated by their record? What do you think
928
00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:28.840
about that great record? You know, those types of questions,
929
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:32.719
and his response was that all Chavis had done was
930
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:35.800
fight a bunch of Tijuana cab drivers, and so to
931
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:38.679
show you the good humor that Hagan had after that
932
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:40.920
was when he got his ass kicked and got knocked out.
933
00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:43.360
He was asked, well, what do you think about that now,
934
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:45.199
and he said, you know, I think with like a
935
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:47.679
glint in his eye, so to speak. Those cab drivers
936
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:50.800
were tough. So he understood what it was. But the
937
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:53.159
thing about it is he shouldn't just be remembered for
938
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:55.320
getting beat up by Chavas and that big fight and
939
00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:58.800
playing the villain role perfectly. You know, he did score
940
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:01.039
wins where he won titles. He beat Jimmy Paul for
941
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:03.199
the IBF lightweight title in nineteen eighty six. It was
942
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:05.559
a close fight in majority decision, but he lost it
943
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:08.519
in his first defense against Vinni pazi Ends who has
944
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:09.840
recently been elected to the Hall of Fame.
945
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:13.679
I remember watching that fight an afternoon fight on NBC
946
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:17.559
with Marv Albert and the fight doctor Ferdy Pacheco. I
947
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:20.000
remember watching that fight Pazzi and Za and Hoggin.
948
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:22.920
He lost that fight that was eighty seven, but the
949
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:26.239
he regained the belt in their immediate rematch in nineteen
950
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:28.000
eighty eight, and then later on they fought a third
951
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:34.119
fight that Vinnie Paz also won, but he lost the title,
952
00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:36.639
and you really can't blame this. After he'd regained it
953
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:39.599
from Vinny Pass. He fought Pearnel Whittaker in nineteen eighty
954
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:41.119
nine and lost the belt to Pearl. Whitiker is one
955
00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:43.000
of the greatest lightweights in the history of boxing. You
956
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.159
could argue in the top three lightweights of all time.
957
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:48.760
And then then a few years later after that he
958
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:50.400
moved up to one hundred and forty pounds. Now, at
959
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:54.079
the time, this is nineteen ninety, the WBO was still fledgling.
960
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:57.559
Virtually nobody considered it to be a legitimate title. I'm sorry,
961
00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:00.159
I'm not doing revision his history. It was considered a
962
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:03.760
fringe title. Nobody really cared much about it. The network's
963
00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:05.679
barely even mentioned it a lot of times when those
964
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:09.079
belts were on the line. But he did win that belt,
965
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:11.800
and it was more than just about that's who he
966
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:14.480
beat to get it. He beat the then thirty eight
967
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:17.920
and oh undefeated Hector Camacho, hall of famer, and he
968
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:21.679
took that fight in a split decision and then ultimately
969
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:23.679
lost it three months later in the rematch. But to
970
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:25.800
win and be the first man to knock off Hector
971
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:29.039
Camacho is still quite an impressive accomplishment. And then his
972
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:32.800
last big fight, so to speak, was you had the
973
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:35.519
great you know, the Hall of Famer Ray Boomba Mansini
974
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:37.880
who had been retired for three years, a former long
975
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:41.239
time lightweight champion. He had come out of retirement to
976
00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:44.840
fight Greg Hougan and Hagan beat him up and stopped
977
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:46.440
him in the seventh round and send him back into
978
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.119
permanent retirement. But those are the big names and the
979
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.320
fights that he had, and that spanned a number of
980
00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:53.360
years throughout that time period, so he was on the
981
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:56.239
networks on a regular basis. And you know, I think
982
00:44:56.320 --> 00:44:58.079
viewed by most people in the business as just a
983
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:01.199
real scrappy you know, will fight anybody. You know, tough
984
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:05.280
as nails, good boxer, not a big puncher, but you know,
985
00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:07.559
got his moment in the sun on more than one occasion.
986
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:10.800
Rest in peace to him, And a quick shout out
987
00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:14.119
too to the not only New York but national broadcaster
988
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:18.079
Al Troutwig, who died on Monday from cancer at age
989
00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:20.079
sixty eight, just a couple of days shy of his
990
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:23.840
sixty ninth birthday, and I was texting with you, not
991
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:25.840
only about Hougen, But I said to you, what about
992
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:28.679
Al Troutwig? And you said what And Al Troutwig had
993
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:32.400
also died on Monday, Troutwig and you shared this with me.
994
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:35.000
I had to go back and relive it just for
995
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:38.119
a few minutes on YouTube. Troutwig very famously on the
996
00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:43.360
call on ABC of which fight involving the real deal.
997
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:45.400
One of the great fights of Evander Holyfields career. He
998
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:48.440
called the first fight between Evander and Dwight Muhammed Kahwei,
999
00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:50.320
who's they're both in the Hall of Fame. That was
1000
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:52.920
a classic fifteen round battle, one of the last great
1001
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:56.480
fifteen rounders, where Evander won the what was called the
1002
00:45:56.639 --> 00:46:00.519
WBA Junior Heavyweight title, really the cruiserweight title. A brilliant
1003
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:02.559
fight and a Troutwick was on the call. I knew
1004
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:05.039
Trouig for all the years, you know, growing up in
1005
00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:06.920
the nineties basically, and when I was I was an
1006
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:09.400
adult at that point, but in the eighties as a
1007
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:11.800
big Yankee fan and watched a ton of MSG Network
1008
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:13.239
and I was I'm a Nicks fan in the eight
1009
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:15.239
yet FI and he was doing all those events. Not
1010
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:17.039
to mention if you watch him on a national stage
1011
00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:20.000
doing tons of Olympics and all kinds of other assignments.
1012
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:21.639
But you know, I knew him from the New York
1013
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:23.840
Sports team, but also you know a little bit of
1014
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:25.440
his time doing some boxing matches as.
1015
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:27.400
Well, and Al was like a member of the family
1016
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:31.159
doing the Knicks, the Rangers, the Yankees, pregame and post game.
1017
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:33.639
One more boxing nugget, Ray Peel.
1018
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:38.039
On the very first series The Contender on NBC, Al
1019
00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:41.039
Troutwick is on the call of the live fight that
1020
00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:44.199
our buddy, the Latin Snake, Sergio Moro won when he
1021
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:47.159
won the million dollar Contender fight. Al Troutwick's on the
1022
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:50.119
play by play call of that live night on NBC.
1023
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:53.000
So I can't say. I can't say if you're wrong,
1024
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:54.079
because I just don't remember that.
1025
00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:55.679
I'm telling you he was.
1026
00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:58.199
I've watched it before and they and I want to say,
1027
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:01.159
they had like eight or ten million people watching live
1028
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:05.519
kapper of The Contender with the Latin State, But that
1029
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:07.880
was Al Troutwick on the call. Now some twenty years
1030
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:10.880
ago of that. He had a long relationship with NBC
1031
00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:13.159
doing the Olympics, as you mentioned, so rest in peace
1032
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:14.119
to him as well.
1033
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:16.039
One more news item.
1034
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:19.280
This has been talked about, and now it is announced
1035
00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:22.800
and set up. Tim Zu is returning after that October
1036
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:28.239
KO loss to Martaz Elajev in the title fight in Orlando.
1037
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:31.239
He will be back as part of a PBC on
1038
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:35.440
Prime Video event in April. So Dan tell us more
1039
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:37.920
about Zoo on the comeback trail.
1040
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:39.920
Well, he's on the comeback trail. Like you said, he
1041
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:41.880
lost two fights in a row and so he's not
1042
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:44.639
fighting King Kong. He lost the bloody split decision that
1043
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:47.360
we all remember in the first ever PBC on Prime
1044
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:49.280
pay per view when he lost the title to the
1045
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:52.079
late replacement Sebastian Fandora, who moved up the car to
1046
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:54.239
the main event when Keith Thurman fell out and he
1047
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:57.559
got badly cut and Fondora suffare of badly broken nose
1048
00:47:57.599 --> 00:47:59.880
and they bled for twelve rounds. He lost the title.
1049
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:02.199
And then when he came back in October for the
1050
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:05.440
first ever non pay per view of the fights that
1051
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:08.239
are done with PBC and Prime, he got the shitkicked
1052
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:10.039
out of him in three rounds by Martaz Leev. I
1053
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:12.280
mean that was a big upset. He got dropped three
1054
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:15.119
times in the second round and get knocked down again
1055
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:18.320
and knocked out in the third round. It was a bad,
1056
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:20.000
bad night at the office for Tim Zuo. And so
1057
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:23.239
he's going back to Australia kind of like tail between
1058
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:26.000
his legs. I suppose he doesn't have that mentality, but
1059
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:28.239
I think, you know, his promoters are looking to you know,
1060
00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:30.639
rebuild them to some degree, and so they're taking on,
1061
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:34.599
in my opinion, the less than threatening Joey Spencer. You know,
1062
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:36.480
it was nineteen to one with eleven knockouts, but it has
1063
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:38.760
never really shown a whole lot. I mean, he got
1064
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:42.440
so much hype from PBC unnecessarily they put him on
1065
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:44.760
a lot of their network shows. He you know, he
1066
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:46.760
never fought anybody all that good when he stepped up
1067
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:50.119
the one time he got beat But he'll go I'll try,
1068
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:52.440
That's all you can ask. And so the fight will
1069
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:55.480
take place. It will be Prime Time in America on
1070
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:58.360
April fifth, which is a Saturday night, and he'll be
1071
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:02.199
on irregular Prime you know, as part of the regular subscription,
1072
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:05.199
not part of a pay per view, and in in
1073
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:09.159
Australia it'll be Sunday afternoon on the sixth and it's
1074
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:10.679
part of the pay per view that will take place
1075
00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:13.159
in Australia, but looks this a must win fight for
1076
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:15.480
Zoo is one thing. If you lose to Fandora on
1077
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:18.400
a freakish type of thing on a short notice replacement,
1078
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:21.480
to get run over like a guy like Martazeleev, who's
1079
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:23.599
shown himself to be, you know, a lot better than
1080
00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:26.159
some people thought. He was a very physical fighter with
1081
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:30.119
good power. That's another matter. If you lose against Joey Spencer,
1082
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:32.679
who is really like in my opinion, like at best
1083
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:35.159
a sea level fighter, you know you're gonna have to
1084
00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:37.559
reassess your career. I'm not saying you're done, but you're
1085
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:39.679
really gonna have to think about it. He just say, like,
1086
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:41.320
I'm you know me, TJ. I've been doing the show
1087
00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:42.960
a long time. I'm not one to like get too
1088
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.239
crazy to say, oh it's I must win. This is
1089
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:47.280
basically about a must win as you get for Tim
1090
00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:47.840
Zoo at this.
1091
00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:50.679
Point, well, and they're trying to set up, you know,
1092
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:54.760
becoming first the uh Keith Thurman fight that never happened,
1093
00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:58.159
Thurman fighting Brock Jarvis. We'll talk about that soon another Australian.
1094
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:00.880
They're trying to set that fi up by having both
1095
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:03.920
of them win later on in the year, but.
1096
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:07.079
Because because Thurman is going to Australia to fight Jarvis,
1097
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:10.360
that fights on March twelfth, if he wins, and if
1098
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:13.400
in April Tim Zoo comes through the fight with with
1099
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:16.199
Joey Spencer. And again the plan it's not like it's
1100
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:19.239
definitive with a date or a sight. But sometime this summer,
1101
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:21.840
I am told as a non pay per view on
1102
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:24.639
Prime Video, could be in America, could be in Australia.
1103
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:27.840
But they're gonna that the two fighters, Thurman and Zoo
1104
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:29.480
have already agreed to fight each other and sort of
1105
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:32.119
put that fight back together again. And if that happens
1106
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:34.239
and they're both coming off wins and their upcoming bouts,
1107
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:36.800
you know, especially as a non paper, I'm definitely interested
1108
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:38.679
to see that. But you know, first things first, these
1109
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:41.280
these guys both have to take care of their business. Uh,
1110
00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:44.079
you know, I think Thurman is in somewhat of a
1111
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:46.440
real fight because of his long, long, long, long layoff,
1112
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:48.280
and Jarvis is not like that bad of a fighter.
1113
00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:51.679
Tim Zoo though, to me, it's not about Joey Spencer.
1114
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:54.079
It's about what does Tim Zoo have in his mind?
1115
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:56.320
How is he mentally? Can he can he deal with
1116
00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:58.840
trying to come back from a bad knockout loss and
1117
00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:01.119
overcome those demons. We'll see what happens, you know, in
1118
00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:01.639
a few weeks.
1119
00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:05.079
Agreed, Agreed, all right, a piece of nostalgia and it
1120
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:10.199
comes up from sixteen years ago. On Friday February twenty eighth,
1121
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:12.840
two thousand and nine, as we released the podcast, and
1122
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:17.119
Juan Manuel Marquez, a name that we have frequently talked about,
1123
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:21.079
scored a knockout win to retain the lineal and win
1124
00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:25.880
the vacant WBO and WBA lightweight titles. Mister Rayfield was
1125
00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:29.320
there and this was the fight of the year in
1126
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:31.679
two thousand and nine, only in February.
1127
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:32.559
Tell me more about it.
1128
00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:34.760
Yeah, this was the consensus fight of the year. This
1129
00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:38.679
was picked by the Boxing Writers Association of America. I
1130
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:40.800
picked it as the fight of the Year for ESPN,
1131
00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:42.840
it was picked as the Ring magazine Fight of the yearning.
1132
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:45.039
Basically everybody that was picking fights of the year picked
1133
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:48.000
this fight. It was a spectacular shootout. Both guys had support.
1134
00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:50.800
Wan Diez is from Houston who had the hometown behind him,
1135
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:53.199
but of course Marquez was a very popular fighter from
1136
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:56.320
Mexico and obviously it's a large Mexican and Mexican American
1137
00:51:56.559 --> 00:51:59.679
community in Houston, so they both had their their fans
1138
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:01.960
that were rooting for him, and it was sensational. This
1139
00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:04.599
was live on HBO. It was a ninth round knocked out,
1140
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:07.320
but getting to the point where Marquez put Wanda's out
1141
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:10.679
pretty convincingly. It had been a complete battle, back and forth,
1142
00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:13.360
back and forth, back and forth. They started off with
1143
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:16.280
an undercart fight which was the hometown fighter, Rocky Warres,
1144
00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:19.239
who was a long time featherweight contender, bought to a
1145
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:23.199
draw challenging for the WBA featherweight title against the Indonesian
1146
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:26.280
superstar Chris John, a fight that a lot of people
1147
00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:28.800
thought that Rocky should have won. He had a number
1148
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:30.519
of title shots and he couldn't get over the hump.
1149
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:33.000
But that sort of started off the night where the
1150
00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:35.800
hometown fighter, you know, in essence loss even though he
1151
00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:37.480
got the draw because he didn't get the title. And
1152
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:39.920
now you have wandas the hometown fighter comingto the ring
1153
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:43.440
and he gets you know, basically knocked out cold to
1154
00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:46.000
end you know what had been an absolutely sensational fight.
1155
00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:48.519
I mean marquees, you know, it was just you know,
1156
00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:51.159
This is Marquez essentially at his at his best, you know.
1157
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:54.440
You know, in his prime, prime years, fighting lots of
1158
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:57.159
good opponents. They were ranked one and two by everybody
1159
00:52:57.199 --> 00:53:00.519
at one hundred and thirty five pounds. You know, Marquez
1160
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:03.119
was considered the lineal champion, he had the Ring magazine title.
1161
00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:05.039
It was just just a bad ass kind of fight.
1162
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:08.039
But he put Diaz down two times in the ninth round. Obviously,
1163
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:10.480
the second one was what ended the fight. And it
1164
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:13.119
doesn't get more exciting. I mean, it was a totally
1165
00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:16.119
enthralling battle. It's on YouTube, you can find it. Unfortunately,
1166
00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:18.280
when they fought in the rematch, because when you have
1167
00:53:18.320 --> 00:53:19.880
a great fight like that, it only made sense for
1168
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:22.559
them to do a second fight. It didn't come closed now,
1169
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:25.519
there was there was space in time between when they
1170
00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:29.119
did the fights because after Juan non will Marquez beat
1171
00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:31.960
Jan Diaz. The next fight he got later in two
1172
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:34.559
thousand and nine, he got picked by Floyd Mayweather when
1173
00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:37.519
Mayweather was coming back after a long not long, but
1174
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:38.880
he was out out of the ring for a couple
1175
00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:41.440
of years in a retirement, and he picked on on
1176
00:53:41.519 --> 00:53:44.679
Marquez and Mayweather, you know, beat Juan very easily. That
1177
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:47.920
night shot him out, knocked him down. But after that
1178
00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:50.679
Wanda Jan Diaz became his next opponents. So he went
1179
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:54.000
from knocking out Wan Diez to uh, you know, win
1180
00:53:54.039 --> 00:53:56.079
the fight of the year, retained the lightweight title, win
1181
00:53:56.119 --> 00:53:59.320
some of the other belts, going up to welterweight, getting
1182
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:01.679
smoked in terms of a decision by Floyd, and then
1183
00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:05.079
drop him back down to lightweight to defend the world
1184
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:07.519
title against Wanda's in the rematch. And even though he
1185
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:12.159
wanted decision, the fight paled in comparison to the greatness
1186
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:14.079
of their first fight. But that first fight was a special,
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special night. Houston was in the house, great great matchup.
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And I have a great memory of going the night
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before that fight to the Toyota Center, which is what
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hosted the fight, the home arena of the Houston Rockets,
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and I guess they gave the Golden Boy people that
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were promoting the fight a bunch of tickets, and so
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I sat with Bernard Hopkins and Shane Moseley and a
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bunch of the people involved with the promotion and some
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of the other reporters, and we watched from one of
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the beautiful sweets. We watched Lebron James's Cleveland Calves against
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Yao Ming's Houston Rockets.
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Send to you. You've told that story before. That's how
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you roll. If you're gonna go to an NBA, you know,
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elite matchup, you're gonna roll in a suite with Sugar
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Shane Mosley and Oscar dal la Hoya to watch Lebron
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and Bernard helping. And now, what's interesting, you said the
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night before, so they they had to ready the arena
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very quickly for the ne next night for the championship.
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Maybe I don't off the top, man, I thought it
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was the night before. I thought it was the Frind night.
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If I went back and look, maybe it was on
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the Thursday night. I probably got to town for the
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fight on Wednesday, maybe not early on Thursday. So now
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now you got me thinking maybe it was the maybe
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was still. But either way it was a blast.
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This is how you were rolling with a younger Lebron
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and with Yao Ming, a huge deal globally and in Houston,
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and then that fight, which was the fight of the year.
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Go dial that up on YouTube. Kids.
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Really, jan Manuel Marquez and his KO of Jan Diaz,
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all right with that, we have been here for a second,
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and we've given you a bunch.
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We gave you a little recap of the Japanese fight card.
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We previewed Jervonte, Davis, Lamont Roach and the other fights
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on the PBC on Prime pay per view. Again, utilize
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our friends at PPV dot com for the one off purchase.
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Again the interaction with Jim Lampley, Lance Pugmeyer, Dan Canobio,
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Chris al Jury, our buds. That is a great feature
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on this Utilize it. Watch it in four eighty four
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K ten eighty I crystal clear quality. We love that
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with PPV dot Com as one of our sponsors here.
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But I also realized, HEJ yeah, if you if you do,
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if you do buy the pay per view on PPV
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dot com, you get replays also for like what you do.
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I think it's like thirty days or yes or something
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like that.
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Let me give you a perfect example of what you
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just described, because after we were talking about the controversy
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and it's pretty well died down of Turkey Alas sheet,
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going over and looking at the scorecards and coming to
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tell hams of Shiraz and the WBC Middleway title fight,
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I went back on PPV dot com and went back
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in the archive of that it was like a seven
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hour broadcast.
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It was actually almost.
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Nine hours, but the actual brought yeah, the actual fight
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to fight, you know, seven and a half, eight hours
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whatever it was, I found it and with thirty seconds
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to go in the tenth round is where Turkey Alashet
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gets up out of his chair in the front and
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goes around to look at the scorecard and then you know,
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or to that point the scorecards to then come to
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Shiraz and tell him what was going on. I'm just
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making the point that I went back and looked on
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the archive on PPV dot com to be able to
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find us. You can go back and rewatch it at
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a later date, all right, So we will handicap the
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Davis Roach fight and the two undercard junior welterweight world
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title fights on the bet Us show that's coming Friday
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at one Eastern time. A reminder, whatever happens, be on
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this podcast feed for the recap pod that comes your.
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Way Sunday night into Monday.
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That includes the Mattias fight coming in Puerto Rico and
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everything else going on this weekend other than that, Are
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we good?
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Are we good? And ready for the weekend? And ready
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for the return of Tank Davis.
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Mister, I'm ready.
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All right, there you go. There's big Dan Rayfield.
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Follow and subscribe on the substack, Fight Freaks your Night
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substack and the newsletter for all the info. By the way,
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just as a tease, what's the nostalgia that you have
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from the one Manuel Marquez one DS fight? What did
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you put up on the substack. I'm just curious in
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your social media do you have something there?
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The anniversary is going to be on Friday.
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On Friday, so you'll have something up Fridday. There's a
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t Subscribe to the soundstick.
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I have a beautiful site poster, thin cardboard site poster
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Check it out.
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If you are on the substack. If you're on the newsletter,
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you'll probably see that. So subscribe away for now though
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