Muslim "Charities" Keep Supporting Terrorism: WHY?

Join us today for a discussion on English voice actors from popular anime who participated in a charity fundraiser using character voices to raise funds for a group with documented ties to Hamas (a story we learned about via Leaflit). We examine repeated patterns of major Muslim charities diverting donations to terrorism, historical examples from the Bush era onward, and the challenges of integrating populations from regions with entrenched support for such groups.

We also cover broader topics including refugee resettlement outcomes in multiple countries, comparisons to other global conflicts, the role of progressive organizations in overlooking these issues, and practical approaches to cultural coexistence. The episode closes with some updates from us on AI tools for education we’re building—plus what we built for dubbing. ;)

Hat tip to Leaflit for this!

Episode Transcript

Malcolm Collins:Hello, Simone. I’m excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be covering three stories. The first is Leaflet found out that a lot of, voice actors for doing, you know, English lines for anime

Simone Collins:Oh.

Malcolm Collins:Had begun, a charity event. And pretending... Like, using the IPs that, like, they didn’t own, like, the... As the voices. So we’ll get into, like, the weirdness of that.

Simone Collins:Woah. But Like, okay. So, like, if, like, the the guy who played Zuko, like, his English And so one of the

Malcolm Collins:people who did this is the person who plays Mao Mao, one of our favorite modern

Simone Collins:characters. Yes.

Malcolm Collins:Well, I mean, it’s a sort of bad thing that they got involved with, but... Yeah. so they would do it as Mao Mao.

Simone Collins:Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, wait. That is... Don’t they sign things?

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. No. They they were just incredibly stupid. I mean, the type of person who tries to change dubbing is incredibly stupid, but the group that they have donated to has been involved in they have been caught by the US state department funding Hamas. Oh, for And this isn’t the first time this has happened. What I think is the bigger story here is for decades in The United States, the single largest Muslim charity organization in The United States funded Hamas. And terrorization is that? Down under the Bush administration. And one of the questions we’re going to be focused on here is why does this keep happening? And we’re going to couch all this alongside another big leak that our friend Brian Chow, who we had on the show when he was launching his new news organization, and it has used AI to find all sorts of scoops. And one of the greatest and latest was brought to you by the McCarthy or t foundation or the... What what are they? T McArthur Foundation. You’re familiar with that from your NPR. Right? NPR would always be like, brought to you by the t McArthur Foundation.

Simone Collins:Catherine t McArthur Foundation.

Malcolm Collins:Yes.

Simone Collins:The Catherine t Well, I wouldn’t recognize it if you don’t read it out the same way that they say it, but sure. Okay. The Catherine t MacArthur Foundation.

Malcolm Collins:And and many other mainstream groups, such as the European AI and Society Fund, Civendes, Network of European Foundations, the Ford Foundation.

Simone Collins:So this is what European AI does. It doesn’t actually help with AI development. It just gives money to Hamas?

Malcolm Collins:No. They were giving money to groups... Well... Okay. So they were giving money to groups that then decided to stand in solidarity with a terrorist organization that was shut down for killing people in bombings, but they’re an antifa tied terrorist organization. and they’re like, well, you know, if it’s left wing, sometimes you just gotta kill them. You know? that’s that’s sort of, I guess, where they are at this point, in terms of ideological capture. So let’s go into this story. So break number one. Who are some of the voice actors who were caught up in this? And, I wouldn’t blame these voice actors much except for the fact that after it came out that this group is funding Hamas or had been caught doing that in the past. Like, we don’t know where their dollars went, but we know it had done this in the past. None of them have, like, recounted or been like, that was a mistake or this isn’t something that I would personally support, which concerns me. It shows in left wing circles, it’s more dangerous. And we’ll get into, like, why you might care about this organization of, like, institutionalized rape and torture that is, like, actively ongoing right now to the people in Gaza. It’s a bit like you think you’re giving money to help starving people in Mexico, and it’s going to the cartels. Like, there there is no way that this is like... The cartels are not pro Mexico. Okay? Like, Hamas is not pro the people of Gaza in any meaningful context. they are an exploitative organization that, did... It’s after the war ended was executing people in the streets. I I love the joke of, oh my gosh. They’re executing Hamas... Gazit citizens in the streets. Can you believe it? They’re like, no. I can’t. This is Hamas this time. Oh. Oh, okay. Whatever. Or, you know, get him some slack. So one was Johnny Lovasco of Genshin Impact. The other... Another is Alex Rontgen of the amazing digital circus and had minor roles in Poppy Playtime. I quite liked the amazing digital circus. I haven’t watched the whole thing, though, so I guess I don’t like it that much. But... And then the last one is Emmy Lowe of Apostecary Diaries, Cyberpunk Edge Runners, Genshin Impact, and Hanukkah Star Rail. This is the one that gets to me the most because I really like the... Both the character of Maumau in apostecary diaries and, apostecary diaries more broadly. And you do. It’s one of the only animes we watch together. Yeah. It’s so sweet. It’s so cute. But, anyway, so the gist of what happened here is a recurring annual fundraiser, raised by voice actress, Kawara Creed, who’s done approximately 120 English voice things in in anime, made a donation to operation branch or OOB. Now the reason why I wanna focus on these larger Muslim organizations and the repeated pattern of this is, in this instance, they only raised $6,000, which to me shows the lack of seriousness about this. I mean, given what they were doing, I’m actually kinda surprised they only did raise $6,000.

Simone Collins:It’s a little embarrassing, but also... Phew.

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. They had they had top level voice actresses on board, and, like, what they would do is you would donate an amount of money and then ask them to say what you wanted to say, like, you know, from the river to the sea or something like that. Right? And then they’d say it in the character’s voice. And I want to... This this gets interesting to a meta point here because I think for a lot of these people, they probably had good intentions. They’re, like, broadly aware of... Now I don’t know why they’re helping the Palestinians and not the much larger genocides that are currently occurring in, like, Darfur, but I... It’s it’s Muslims killing black people there, so who cares. Right? You know? Two oppressed groups doesn’t matter. but with the the case of the Palestinians, the the, you know, you can be like, okay. They’re they’re suffering. The challenge is is so often and so frequently, we see large respectable or have a veneer of respectability groups like this then end up giving the money to terrorism. and I think the... A lot of people are just very confused by this. Like, why is this happening, and how do we prevent this? Because it makes it very hard to help these groups. If there’s a community and, I mean, this happened even in The United States where they, god. Where were they... The Somalian immigrant population was scamming our government, but not just scamming it, but then sending the money to terrorist organizations. like, you give a starving person a dollar, and they decide they’re gonna give 50¢ to a terrorist organization. Like, what do you do about that? Like, how do you deal? And it’s not just at the level of donations. There’s also been a problem with any country that has taken in large numbers of Palestinian refugees. as people are aware, countries that have done the virtuous thing and taken in these populations have paid for it in the blood of innocent civilians. Yeah. They they they... In every instance.

Simone Collins:So it’s not a good look. It’s really not a good look that

Malcolm Collins:you try to take someone Jordanian Jordanian government in a violent coup after they graciously allowed them into their country and were paying to support them. they... In Denmark, there was a study on, like, how three generations in, there’s incredibly high rates of criminality in these populations. I think it’s 70% are involved in violent crime or or criminal organizations. Very, very high. Right? Like, they they just... It... It’s it’s systemic in the culture of of this region, and it makes it very difficult to help.

Speaker 3:So I decided to ask AI if any region had ever taken in a significant number of Gaza refugees without their own civilians suffering and dying for it. And it said, which I think is indicative, Jordan comes closest to it, and that they couldn’t find other good examples. Now to understand how crazy this is, Jordan had Black September 1970 to 1971, in which cases, Palestinians arrived. The PLO and the Firidian built a state within a state. It was in refugee camps, running checkpoints, collecting taxes, and defying Jordanian authority. They hijacked planes at Dawson’s Field, triggered king Hussein’s army to act, and they killed thousands of Palestinian civilians. they they killed more Palestinian civilians than we’ve killed Iranian civilians since the start of this war. Just just

Speaker 4:So after that, the same group was taken in by Lebanon, which then was a significant factor in the Lebanese civil war and participated in that, again, killing thousands of civilians. In Kuwait. they were taken in. They were hosted. They were supported with tax dollars and then supported Saddam Hussein’s nineteen ninety invasion, helping him kill civilians. we saw it in Iraq. We saw it in Egypt. We saw it in... It... even in countries like Germany, where two people were killed by Ibrahim a, who was granted protection and support by the German government. Denmark’s crime statistics showed that even three generations on, they were significantly more likely to kill civilians than even first generation Arab immigrants into the country. This is this is Palestinian refugees. It’s just the reality of the situation. They had a a crime rate 2.5 x higher than normal.

Malcolm Collins:And I think that’s one of the things that we need to get to at the end of this is how do you help her work with the people who, when their family is starving, would still rather give a portion of that to kill innocent people of another group. What do you do? Right? It it it becomes very hard, I can sympathize with why these groups want to ignore that this is what’s happening. But, anyway, just for the connection here, and I’ll put a tweet on screen here that sort of outlines this if you wanna dig deeper into it. But on 06/10/2025, the US treasury, OFAC designated Algerian El Barak Association for the charitable and humanitarian work, also known as our Baka Algerian Association for charitable and humanitarian work.

Speaker 19:And let me just say, isn’t it amazing that now we can replace the dubbers who are adding woke stuff to anime with AI? We even have a feature on rfab.ai. That is rfab.ai where you can dub animes if you want using the click of a button. It’s not perfect. It’s not good at, like, fight scenes and onomatopoeias yet, but for... Or songs. But for spoken words, it’s pretty good.

Malcolm Collins:it has been based in ZIZER or Algiers and was established in 2015. It stated that it diverted funds needed for humanitarian causes to support Hamas and keep in mind, they’re, like, starving children that you’re taking the money from. And this has been... This grift has been a part of the economy in these regions. I’ll play a bit of a music video here that I think is really fun. And then whenever I play a music video here, always link it in the the pinned comment if you if you think it’s funny, but I thought it did a good job of depicting this. By the way, fun fact, the figures in that music video, all but one of them has been killed by... Yeah. Mossad. So they were killed in Doha by Mossad. The the joke about, oh, it’s sushi. Is not Mossad. They they they do. That’s one thing I’ve always appreciated about Israel is when somebody with them, they back, and I like that we as Americans are beginning to learn to do that as well. Yeah. We don’t go and try to save them. You know, that was stupid of us. When somebody with us, we try to help them improve and build a democracy that’s a glowing shining beacon like ours. It’s like, no. You... With us, we f**k with you.

Simone Collins:And we try to keep

Malcolm Collins:it narrow. I’ll I’ll point out here. Like, if you look at something like the Iran war, we’ll be going over this more in another future episode. But if you look at the the numbers that we have right now So the official Iranian figure for how many civilians they killed was 3,117. This was during the the crackdown where the Iranian civilians were asking The US to come in and help them. I mean, Trump was like, yeah. It will take some time, but... Yeah. And he did. So 3,117 Iranian. That’s the lowest number because that’s what the government was reporting. If we’re looking at the h r a n a number, which is generally the... This is a Iranian human rights group, the one that most people accept. It was as high as... It was around 7,007. if you go with the, you know, groups that wanna just, like, go with really higher numbers, you get numbers as high as, like, 12,000 to 30,000 to 36,000. I don’t know if I believe those. I... I’d probably go with the 7,000 number, maybe a bit higher, but let’s go with the lowest possible number, the Iranian number, 3,117. Okay? Right now, the the HRNA, in terms of civilians killed by US bombing since the beginning of the war, has only been 1,700. Is that not astonishing? Like, we’re at about half of the number that I ran mentioned of the civilians that they said they had killed.

Simone Collins:That’s not being reported on in mainstream media. I just want people to be okay. Yes. I mean, it seems fewer people are not okay under The US’s watch than under

Malcolm Collins:the Iran watch. You have a war for months and only, like, under 2,000 civilians are dead? Like, that’s crazy. That’s crazy. This is not a... It’s a fake war, which we’ll get into later. But the... Another episode. Right now, we’re focused on this. I was just appreciating that when these people did screw over Israel, it took them out, and I’m glad that we’re getting back to this as a country. so there was a, the the point here being is, that this organization that under this executive order was found funneling money to Humas. The group leader said, like, they saw them as, like, a trusted ally or were working with them on something, and so we know there’s connections there. How strong those connections are, I think it’s largely irrelevant because it’s $6,000 and who the cares. You know?

Simone Collins:It’s such a weirdly small amount. It seems like something that they thought would get a lot of pickup because of their general platforms that just no one actually heard about. Like, it was poorly communicated.

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. Yeah. That that said, poorly communicated and performatory. Performatory. Performative. Performative. not not real. They don’t actually care about anything they say they care about. I mean, it’s the same as the whole Greta Thornburg thing. Look at all the stuff she’s doing down there. Is any of it actually getting good to anyone? No. Like, it’s all performative. This is the problem about having progressives on your side as any sort of civilizational power is even if you could win them to your side, they will only do performative things to help you, which is wild. Right? Like, oh, I’ve got the number one environmental activist on our world dedicating her life to my cause. What’s she gonna do? Fail around in a boat with supplies that, obviously, she can’t deliver. And even if she could, wouldn’t be a meaningful amount? Well, she could have taken the money she spent on this and done something meaningful. Right? And the real way that progressives facilitate these groups is by aggressively not noticing that it’s irrelevant that the... This this group funnel money to Hamas. It is not irrelevant that the largest Muslim charity in The United States funneled money to Hamas for decades. That is very relevant. And where the progressives make helpful patsies isn’t in the way they directly support you. It’s in their aggressive not noticing of bad actors on your side and continuing to work with you, bring you into the country, free you when you do something bad, prevent you from going into prison, when you murder or rape someone or any other number of bad things, that’s where they are useful to you, and that is where we need to be more aggressive in making sure, like, a civilizational rules are still applying because we can put progressives up against a wall with that. This is where conservatives often make massive strategic mistakes. For example, take something like going against gays. Like, performatively, like, I hate gays, whatever. We shouldn’t have gays in part of the movement. When you see gays be meaningful to the movement, Scott Pressler, Peter Thiel, etcetera, like, key figures in the White House. and, you push these figures out. And what are you winning? Right? Like, focus on the things that actually matter right now, which is the foreign opposition to us, right, that may want to eradicate us or put us on a foreign stage, and the immigrants, that are not interested in being American or American values. And note here, we... When I say the immigrants who are not interested in American values, this is not all immigrants. Right? There are a lot of, for example, Hispanic immigrants that are very interested in American values, and that could integrate as well as any other Catholic has integrated into American culture.

Speaker 6:So to clarify what I mean here, I’m not saying you need to personally be okay with, morality around gayness or or think that that’s okay. I’m just saying that it doesn’t help the wider movement to attempt to ban it or arbitrarily attack or insult people who are gay because that doesn’t make them stop living a gay lifestyle if they’re a same sex attracted person. Like, that’s just not an effective means of achieving the ends that you care about. It’s... It only serves to elevate your status within a community that shares those values. So you’re really just masturbating in front of a bunch of people, right, in a way that ends up hurting our overall movement because it lowers the number of people that we’re able to utilize to win election cycles. And it’s the same with immigrants. Am I saying that I think it’s a good thing that we’ve taken in all of these immigrant populations? No. But they’re here now, and we need to win elections if we want to stay in control of our countries. And if you act in a way that overly isolates populations that would otherwise vote for you, keep in mind the average Hispanic male in The United States voted for Trump in the last election, you are not going to win elections. And and also keep in mind how much that matters. I mean, the Hispanic population in The United States is twice the size of the black population. Right? Like, you are significantly undermining our ability to win election cycles and keep in mind, again, it’s not just them. This is why this is so important. It’s everybody who has a friend in one of these communities. When you act in a way that prevents us from winning election cycles for a fight or a goal that is simply impossible to win at the electoral level, at least the way things are currently, all you do is put us in a situation where Republicans can never win again like has happened in places like, you know, the EU, or the UN. Once they gain control, they structurally change things so that you can never have power again.

Simone Collins:Well, it really depends on, I think, what drives people here. Are are they here because they believe in what America stands for and they want to play our game by our rules, or do they want to exploit our amenities? And I think the big problem is that immigration seems to have shifted to amenity exploitation rather than believing in the ideals. In fact, what frustrates me the most, not to go on a rant about immigration, is we know a lot of people who are actively trying to legally immigrate to The United States because they want to play the American game by the American rules. They wanna be net taxpayers. They wanna play the game. They like our system, and they want to contribute. And they’re also very culturally American. And all the people who seem to be getting in are the ones who just wanna exploit the social services, and they’re skipping the line. It’s so messed up. Anyway, carry on.

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. So this... The... When you can narrow who the enemy is to only the people it would be ridiculous to defend

Simone Collins:Yeah.

Malcolm Collins:It’s e... The progressives will still defend them, and it’s easier to win the optics game. I mean, it’s not just easier. It’s possible. It’s impossible to win the optics game when it looks like you’re going after some gay guy who just wants to live his own life. It’s very easy to win the optics game when you go after a trans guy who’s going into children’s bathrooms, okay, or who’s demanding to play in women’s sports or who’s... You know, any of that. Those are easy to win battles. Focus on those battles. And only when all of those battles are won can you have a conversation about, okay. Well, now let’s talk about x, y, or z or some form of moral purity. The problem is is you’ll realize the moment you have that conversation, the vast majority of your coalition is going to break apart and turn into an anti you coalition because that’s not what the majority of the population wants. But to continue here. The Union of Good designated by the treasury in 2008 as a Hamas created entity that acted as a broker transferring tens of millions of dollars to Hamas controlled organizations in the West Bank, and it was linked to dozens of charities across Europe, The Middle East, and elsewhere. Member groups included various Al Qasari fronts. And this was in... It... It’s back in the Bush administration. Right?

Simone Collins:Wow.

Malcolm Collins:So I’m going to skip down and talk about... Well, I mean, I guess we can talk about, like, what Hamas does. So they they did, you know, the mass shootings at the peaceful... The the four the four piece in Gaza music festival.

Simone Collins:Well, and attacked attacked a bunch of settlements within the borders of Israel.

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. Door to door killings, burnings, executions. I mean, imagine if this happened with Mexico and The United States. Right? Like, and they took back American children, American civilians, and were holding them hostage. It... Like, it was a cart... The cartels took over Mexico and then did this. Right? Like, I would want America going so much harder than Israel went on Gaza. Like, everyone’s in this

Simone Collins:genocide. Anymore.

Malcolm Collins:And their population increased during this genocide. That has never... That’s not a genocide.

Speaker 7:Note, this, is talking about the Palestinian population at the whole. If you’re talking about just the Gaza population, it’s maybe decreased by 6%, which if you’re talking about a war of this scale is a fairly low number.

Malcolm Collins:That’s a... That’s never happened before in a genocide. That’s a.

Speaker 8:As a note, I wasn’t actually able to find the graph, so I ended up recreating it myself from the data that I could source, which I suppose makes it a more honest graph, and it still shows how comical it is to call this a genocide.

Malcolm Collins:.. I’ll put the the famous chart on screen here of percent of population killed, number of people killed, and global genocides. And you can just see it’s it’s a joke to call it

Simone Collins:a show. And this, of course, flies in the face of the actual genocide taking place in Africa right now, but whatever.

Malcolm Collins:Forget about that. Multiple now. Multiple. Not that it matters or anyone cares.

Simone Collins:Well, apparently, the reason why people aren’t... This this is the... Sorry. This is the based justification for why progressives in The US are talking about the Palestinian genocide and not the genocide that’s taking place in Africa. The United States actively supports Israel, so they feel like... And a lot of people know Jews who support Israel. So they feel like they can actually make a difference by talking to their token Israel supporting friend or to pressure their government because they could actually do something, whereas The US is very hands off vis a vis.

Malcolm Collins:That is an incredibly bad reason because the genocides in Africa right now are primarily being orchestrated by The UAE and Saudi Arabia. Right? Like, what are you talking about? Yeah.

Simone Collins:I know. I know. I know. But I’m just I’m just telling you what people are saying. Okay? That’s that’s apparently why they say it.

Malcolm Collins:But they’re they’re part of a power structure

Simone Collins:They’re selling them they’re selling them weapons. They’re selling them weapons

Malcolm Collins:Sorry to the aggressors committing They’re not just selling them weapons. They’re supporting it. They’re they’re trying to set up pocket governments in some of these region.

Speaker 9:To ensure that our audience is maximally informed, what has happened is they have been supporting the Sudanese armed forces or the rapid support forces. It’s the SAF or the RSFF, and this is in the Sudan conflict. The RSF has been accused of systemic ethnic targeting, mass killings, rape, looting, and starvation tactics against non Arab groups, black people. It’s Arab people killing black people. And The US officially determined that the RSF committed genocide in Darfur. In terms of The UAE’s role, there have been arms transfers of Chinese drones, howitzers, and other systems. They’ve financed a link to Sunnis groups smuggling into The UAE, and they’ve helped with, recruitment of mercenaries. And this is extensive reporting on the UN panel of experts finding NFT International Human Rights Watch and other groups. In terms of Saudi Arabia’s role, they generally aligned with the SAF side, not the RSF, and have hosted mediation efforts, but they’re still funding this conflict. Right? Like, this is silly thing that’s happening. The UAE is the more direct group in the genocide part of this, and The UAE is an even stronger ally to The United States than Saudi Arabia. So, like, I guess it makes it even worse.

Malcolm Collins:Look. It doesn’t matter. The point being is that’s that’s... It’s not like The US is only involved in one and not the other.

Simone Collins:It it does matter. Innocent people are being killed. But... Yeah. Yeah. They’re completely ignoring these actual things that are happening. and not to say that there are not horrific things that are happening, in in in Palestine, and also that there aren’t major mistakes that the Israeli government has made multiple times. And, obviously, like, things coming out with Netanyahu plausibly having heard about attacks incoming and not doing anything about it. Like, there are very, very serious issues with Israel. But this is a completely different scale and kind of conflict than what’s happening elsewhere.

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. So Well, and keep in mind that these people were livestreaming murdering families. Like, they... This was cool to... It was so cool to them that when... And I think that this is where the quiet part comes out loud, and you can understand why it’s so difficult to deal with these populations. When this American Muslim organization, the largest Muslim charity in The United States, was raising money, one of the things they said they’re raising money for was the families of martyrs. When they say that, they mean the people who died livestreaming themselves killing families. that is the point for them... For a lot of them. The reason why they divert the money from themselves is when you get a place like Gaza that has been under terrorist occupation for so long, anybody who opposes this ends up getting killed. That this is why you had all the killings after the Israeli occupation. Right? Anybody who is not actively, like, a... I’m gonna call them, like, dejan terrorists because they’re not even, like, intelligent terrorists or anything like that. They’re just like, I want to be maximally toolish to everyone around me. They... The the Dijin terrorist is the only person who survives. The person who, when their child dies, as we saw a video of, is crying in the streets, cheers of joy because he... You know, she was hoping that her other children also got the opportunity to die martyrs. Right? Like, when you have this mindset, you... It begins to, like, intergenerationally, so aggressive a form of selection, you get an extreme form of potentially even genetic modification, but at least cultural modification that, obviously, even generations after they move to other countries does not disappear.

Simone Collins:Yeah. Although even... Especially within within Palestine, I understand how that mindset could come to be given how terrible the conditions are there, plus the beliefs about Islamic heaven. If you are a mother and you love your son and you are, like, legit believe what happens to men and has... Yeah. They they get the forties with You would prefer. You see them, like, starving and living in squalid conditions in Palestine, and yet you know what they can experience in heaven, especially as a martyr. Yeah. You wanna send them to go out and die as a martyr. Like, she she was not behaving illogically per that cultural nexus and that that... Her her perception of reality and her experience, her lived experience living in these these horrible conditions. But the fact that that’s happening, the fact that people are raised with that culture, with that religion, with those views, and in that horrible condition is atrocious. It makes... It’s it’s... I mean, it’s it’s inhumane, obviously. It’s unthinkable. And, yeah, it’s happening every single day.

Malcolm Collins:A population like that. And it’s been like this for generations. And any time you had some outlier culturally or genetically, you was like, hey. Maybe we should, like, try to find a constructive way to work on this or find a way for peace. You know? They end up getting tortured to death. You... Which it happens repeatedly. Like, this is a daily phenomenon living in Gaza. You’re you’re going to get a a selection effect that breeds a population that believes it’s cool, even the diaspora, even the people who don’t grow up in this, to livestream the murder of a family or something like that. Right? And so when you live next to a population like this and to see somebody like that as a hero, someone to aspire to, I always find that the conversation around, well, Gaza is a a walled city. Like, they’re caged like a zoo. I’m like, I mean, I would put a wall around them too if they were anywhere near me.

Simone Collins:Well, also, the walls weren’t as impermeable as they are now before before a bunch of terrible things happened when people readily accepted Palestinian refugees. So that’s the other issue.

Malcolm Collins:Well, yeah, this is this is when they had the second infatata. They they tried to make the walls less permeable, and they You did

Simone Collins:it again. Sorry. The infatata

Malcolm Collins:has antifada. Whatever. I don’t like these foreign words. If I if I spit out a Muslim word on my tongue, Simone, what would happen to me? I’d lose my American credentials.

Simone Collins:This is true. They’d have to revoke your passport right there.

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. so the the the... You would... You’d build a wall around them. Like, it’s a logical thing to do. I’d build a wall. I’m like, why not a dome? Like, they can get out with the the Goliath. Let’s do a dome as well. This seems incredibly dangerous. There’s a reason why no other Muslim country will take them. But now we need to ask the question of why did they keep funding them. Right? And I think if you wanna understand this, go to our episode on what do Muslims believe about heaven or happens to you after you die, because that was very illuminating for me. Yeah. And it helps me understand why structurally, at least with many conservative Muslims, you are always going to hit an impasse that prevents you from dealing with them in a in a way that allows for long term coexistence. And they’ll cite to you verses from the Quran that make it look like coexistence is possible, but they don’t tell you that the way Islam works is it’s the verses that are later in the Quran that take precedence to the verses earlier in the Quran. And Mohammed was all like, let’s get along with everyone early in the Quran. And then later in the Quran, he was much more like, no. Like, let’s kill everyone else.

Speaker 10:So for some examples of some of these later verses, and when the sacred months have passed and then killed the policy is... Keep in mind, Christians are considered policy as to Muslims because of the trinity. I guess techno Puritans wouldn’t be because we don’t believe in that, but other Christians would be. Wherever you find them and capture and besiege them and sit and wait in every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them go on their way. So repent means convert to Islam. fight those who do not believe... This is another one. Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the last day. For those who were given the scripture, fight until they give the willingly while they are humbled. That’s, like, a additional tax payment, that’s required of non Muslims. Basically, subjugate the people. and then you have, fight them until there is no fatah in the religion. All of it is for Allah. And keep in mind, this is all coming alongside a... You know, if you die in combat, you get the the 42 virgins in heaven. Right? Like, women. Right? It doesn’t even matter if it’s virgins. You you get a bunch of women to have sex within heaven because that’s how, again, see our episode on how Muslim heaven works. it’s it’s really disgusting, honestly. Like, I I I would immediately... And I... When we did that episode, a number of Muslims who watched it was like, yeah. When I finally understood what Muslims actually think happens in heaven, I was like, don’t I don’t know if this is a good religion.

Speaker 11:Sorry. I got that wrong from memory. It’s 72 virgins. And fun fact, they were mentioned multiple times in the letter to the nine eleven hijackers that was meant to give them motivation for the attack. So this does lead to bad outcomes. If you aren’t from it, just to give you a little taste on the episode of what Muslims thinks happens in heaven, you get a bunch of additional women. Everybody gets at least one additional woman, one additional wife to to have sex with. So no... So nobody’s in having married to just one woman. You always have at least two. And you have all the vigor you want to have sex all the time. It’s basically a hedonistic paradise without any sort of, like, higher spiritual elevation. It’s just sex all you want whenever you want and all the stuff you want whenever you want, which is, like, really sort of degrading of the human morality to me.

Malcolm Collins:and the... I mean, even as a religious leader myself, I guess you could call me. Like, we started a sect of of of Christianity, the techno puritanism. If you go to an AI and you ask it, like, did techno puritanism start really open to other groups and then become very... Or significantly more hostile to some specific other groups? You’d you’d find out absolutely it has. That’s a that’s a natural... Because when you’re first starting a organization, you’re like, okay. I want everyone to be able to be on board. I want to be able to work with as many neighbors as possible. I want to... And then you’ve gotta be like, okay. Yeah. But what does the bible really say? What are these groups really doing? What’s the real push and shove if this behavior is persistent. And at this point, you just need to be like, okay. Well... So, like, I don’t even blame Muhammad for doing it. You know? He’s he’s at this point where he’s like, okay. I have power now. I have an army now. I can conquer people now, which, you know, he was doing. And those people then didn’t want to. They’re like, no. Like, Judaism doesn’t, like, agree with what you’re doing here. And, you know, Christians were like, Christianity doesn’t agree with what you’re doing here, and then he didn’t like them very But he hadn’t had that moment yet. But let’s go to this other organization,

Simone Collins:You gotta explain that whole thing.

Malcolm Collins:On 08/26/2026, the US state department treasury designated the Italy based tech collective, Autistica Innovateia, which actually takes Autistica as, like, their logo. Like, Autistic Technerds is what they call themselves.

Simone Collins:So that’s that’s literally what I mean. It’s just not some other meaning for autistic. It’s just tech autistic.

Malcolm Collins:No. No. That that that means, like, artistic or something, but they they make a play on words and their slogans.

Simone Collins:Okay. Anyway, look at

Malcolm Collins:the matter. They’re a global terrorist organization. Okay. The reason they’re a global terrorist organization is... Let’s let’s go over some of the stuff that they’ve done. Alright? So they cut off the Berlin power grid, which was the longest blackout in Berlin in the middle of winter affecting over a 100,000 people outside of World War two. And, of course, people died during it. They did this as an attack on oil and big business. How does that hurt oil and big business? You’re literally just murdering civilians and slightly inconveniencing to a margin of error some oil executive who’s insured anyway. It’s like, let’s kill civilians. That’s sort of specifically, we know of one 83 year old woman who froze to death

Simone Collins:Oh.

Malcolm Collins:Because of these disorganization. they they funded the Rose City at Antifa, used AI services to organize incite domestic violence, including an attack involving lasers pointed at custom border patrol helicopters that led to a federal indictment, attempting to kill law officers. the Atlantic Cop City law enforcement center opposition, the anarchist cell fighting the project used tools from them and claimed responsibility for violent attacks on officers plus publishing a doxxing list of law enforcement officials. They did rail sabotage across France, Italy, Germany, and The Netherlands. This was of high speed lines that could have killed thousands of civilians. Oh. This was in the lead up to the Olympics to protect the capitalism, I guess. They said it was a capital... Like, they’re doing... They’re they’re they’re killing civilians for the dumbest ing reasons. Yeah.

Simone Collins:They do really need to work on... I I feel like one of the reasons why Luigi Mangini was so popular is because he actually targeted A bad guy. Person who was making decisions that was leading people to die based on refused insurance coverage. Whereas all these other acts of terrorism, they’re not affecting the decision makers. Like, what’s the point? Yeah. And for people who aren’t aware with

Malcolm Collins:the Luigi MNG thing, he was using AI that was approved... Denying claims that it should have been approved. He had gone to court, and court showed and sued them saying this is... I think it was in ninety six percent of cases or something that it should have been approved. It would deny them. This is not... This is producing bad outcomes that don’t follow your contracts with these people. And he continued to use this system after it had legally been established that it was both illegal and killing people.

Speaker 12:Specifically, it had a ninety percent error rate, and only about zero point two percent of the denied patients would appeal it when it incorrectly denied them. so this was leading to almost certainly dozens of innocent deaths every day that he knew were happening illegally, and he had already been per... Prosecuted for doing, in a court case. And, it just wasn’t relevant to the company.

Simone Collins:The settlement costs less than the money they were saving by denying care.

Malcolm Collins:Yes. so that’s that’s what she means when she says that. Right? Like, if we were fighting a left of Luigi Mangione’s, we couldn’t win. Right? Like, they would have the popular support. The key is to always force them into these stupid positions. But the other thing, the thing that I was most surprised that they help with is, attacking pregnancy centers... Crisis pregnancy centers?

Simone Collins:What? Wait. How is that?

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. So they firebombed the Wisconsin family action office with Molotov cocktails and graffiti. If abortions aren’t safe, then you aren’t either. And then, in Amnesty Buffalo, New York, they firebombed the Compass Care Pregnancy Center. Windows smashed, fire set inside. These are pregnant women. Two firefighters were injured fighting the blaze. Multiple other arsons in in many countries. So... Yeah. Many women. So why are they doing it? It’s because these are pregnancy centers that don’t give abortions, and there’s this belief, partially true, partially exaggerated in progressive circles. And I’m sure you heard when you were in progressive circles. I certainly did. Of these conservative pregnancy centers that, like, lie to you that... To try to delay you getting an abortion until you can’t anymore, or that try to, like, show you your child so you don’t want to get an abortion or try to. That that is what they believe that they are targeting here. I do not think that that is, you know, I I think, one, showing somebody

Simone Collins:Nobody’s forcing women to go there. When women go there, it’s because they’re actually on the fence, and they actually want someone to talk to. If a woman wants an abortion, she’s gonna get an abortion in The United States. Okay? It’s it’s not

Malcolm Collins:I’m not gonna say that they’re never deceptive to any extent, but I think the real... Reality of most of the women who are going to this is they are unsure, and they want a safe environment to talk about this. And if you

Simone Collins:see If you’re sure about what you want, you’re going to Planned Parenthood. Okay? That that... They are there. Planned Parenthood is everywhere. Everywhere. Yeah. If you No no confused woman is going to find one of... I don’t... Like, if I were... Whatever. Like, preprogressive me and somehow I was slutty and I got out there. You know? Or I’m not not as moral... Sorry. As socially as tone deaf as I am, and I actually, like, I don’t know, had my slutty moment. And I needed to get an abortion, or I wasn’t sure about getting an abortion. I literally would not know where to look aside from planned parenthood. I don’t... I wouldn’t know the name. I wouldn’t know how to find a crisis pregnancy center. I guess you could Google crisis pregnancy center. I wouldn’t even know the... What’s that? Like, again, people are going to these because they’re genuine... Anyway, just really mad that people are

Malcolm Collins:And and if you watch our early stage abortion episode, you can see what this is like for many, even progressive women who would have preferred to not make the choice for an abortion if they had just had somebody sat them down and talk about it. If they had known as many progressives are genuinely psychologically unaware, and I was at this stage at one point in my life, not having an abortion is an option. It’s genuinely treated as not even something you would consider. And so I think that these can serve us an important role in society. But, no, these these groups bomb them. So what ended up happening is this group ended up... The PayPal seized their accounts. They announced they were shutting down services. Bank Etika closed their accounts. And then a bunch of NGOs, for example, major ones, like Wikimedia Germany, Wikimedia Italy, the European Digital Rights Union, Bits of Freedom, Epicenter Works, La Quantra Denut, Digita Courage, Homo Digitas, People versus Big Tech, and others decided to write a a letter saying that this should be removed and it’s a freedom... They’re killing people. This is a freedom of whatever the... It’s freedom of speech issue. And I’m like, no. No. It’s not a freedom of speech issue. Firebombing is a freedom. Firebombing is not covered under freedom of speech. Okay? And then they’ll be like, well, they were only using their platforms to firebomb. And it’s like, yeah. And their platforms are facilitating this, right, you know, specifically in keeping it anonymous. And these organizations were funded by those large organizations I talked about at the beginning, like the Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation and the, you know, Ford Foundation and the Open Society Foundations, etcetera. And this is why it’s important when you’re donating money, donate to the Pragmatist Foundation. We fund cool stuff. Okay?

Simone Collins:Like, these We have fun over here.

Malcolm Collins:The the better AI education apps we’ve been building right now for kids, which is so cool. And, you know, if you want them, you can really cheaply get an Android tablet, flash it. We don’t charge much for any of this, or anything to,

Simone Collins:like, refresh. An old Android phone of yours, actually.

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. Just take an old Android phone, and, it’s it’s upgrading every day. It’s getting better every day. I’m really excited about this product. It’s it’s just really popping up

Simone Collins:most of our time right now is is bug testing and building new features for this because our kids are actively playtesting it. And we always have to stay one step ahead of them in terms of, like, exploiting one of the reward features or, like, getting stuck on a game. So that’s where our But but we’re

Malcolm Collins:not limited to the stuff you see in our fab and Mudpuppy and Hard EA. We also fund a lot of secret tech that recently had a major breakthrough.

Simone Collins:So exciting.

Malcolm Collins:That could transform... It would save so many lives. Yep. And, you know, demographically, it could easily change the tables for us Yeah. Which is very exciting.

Simone Collins:Super cool stuff. Yeah. Plus, I mean, all the prenatalist advocacy and, you know, whatnot, which which actually we still do.

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. But the more money we get, the more we can fund. Right? Like, it’s a nonprofit, whatever. Right? I’m just saying it right. Like, we don’t we don’t pay anyone other than Bruno, and I don’t pay... I I pay him a criminally low rate

Simone Collins:for you. I know. Bruno, we’re working on it. Okay. Let’s

Malcolm Collins:sorry. Sorry.

Simone Collins:Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.

Malcolm Collins:Sorry. Well, we are, getting to a point of persistent cash positivity at this point with our fab because of the horny men on the Internet who wanna make not safe for work comments and not safe for work searches and not

Simone Collins:Gentlemen, we salute you.

Malcolm Collins:That is

Simone Collins:Thank you for your contribution to this this nonprofit. You are amazing. The body But but you’re saving money by using our FAB anyway, though.

Malcolm Collins:So you’re welcome. Donate money to the mosque. It’s easy to not donate money to terrorist organizations.

Simone Collins:Oh, I... Yeah. I don’t know. It’s... Yeah. Maybe we’re not having that. Whoops. I supported a terrorist moment. Oops. Yeah. I mean Or you to cover the, the the the the people also... Not not even just domestic terrorists, firebombing, abortion clinics, but supporting Antifa?

Malcolm Collins:Well, that’s what they were doing. I mentioned they supported a number of Antifa locations. Yeah. This is a platform that Antifa was using to maintain anonymity. so here’s the wider question here, and this is one I have around Muslims more generally, is how do you live alongside groups that are, at least in terms of... And I’m... Note here, I am not saying all Muslims at all. There’s lots of Muslims that westernize and want to westernize. but what I will say is I have never met a Muslim who westernized and liked western values and ideals that had a lot of kids, which unfortunately means that long term, those Muslims aren’t particularly important to what it means to interact with Muslim culture.

Simone Collins:That’s a fair point. Yeah. The the the ones who are indicative of future culture are the ones who have lots of kids.

Malcolm Collins:Yeah. So I would say that, first, I would accept that Muslims, even the ones that you can work with persistently, you need to expect them to fund terrorism. Because terrorism is, with the martyrs rule, an intrinsic part of their entire afterlife system. Okay? it’s not like a fringe thing. It’s not like an extremist thing. It’s it’s more mainstream. That’s why the largest organization that’s Muslim in The United States would end up funding it. I mean, that shows it’s mainstream. And even our friends, when there have been Muslim countries that we have been able to work with amicably, The UAE, Saudi Arabia, for example. these are our allies in the region. Right? They still fund terrorism. Like, of all the top dogs in in the... These countries fund terrorism. Right? They just do it for different means or targeted at different things. You need to accept that this is a thing that you’re going to have to bite when working with in mass Muslim populations. Right? Like, on an on average cultural trend. and the question is is how negative is that for you as a society? it’s made significantly less negative by the existence of Israel... A Jewish Israel. Because the moment a Jewish Israel stops existing, that terrorism gets redirected to us. Like, I don’t know if you guys

Simone Collins:Oh, you like that they’re drawing fire. Well, I guess it’s favorable to us as morally inconvenient that is that they’re they’re drawing fire.

Malcolm Collins:What? But we are next on the list. Right? Like, they’re they’re not like... They don’t have, like, a and now we’re finished moment. It’s it’s part of the religious system.

Simone Collins:Well, they’re being supported. We’re we’re being primarily bankrolled by the death of America country.

Malcolm Collins:Right? Muslims have killed way more Christians than Jews in both terrorism attacks and eradications and genocides and... You know? It’s it’s just the the historic condition here is... So with that being the case, how do you think about this? Because I know Muslims who I like as people and who I get along with as people. Absolutely. Know any who have a lot of kids, but I know

Simone Collins:Crap.

Malcolm Collins:Quite a number. And so my question is is how how... I I think that the faction of Islam that we can continue to work alongside and that can continue to be a sort of persistent ally to our cultural group, falls into two groups. One is the sterile westernized Muslim, which... Okay. Great. Fine. They... You know, it’s it’s not long term, but they they certainly work alongside us well for now. Right? And then the second is the autocratic Muslim who stays in Muslim countries. This is the Saudi Arabian royal family, for example, or The Emirates, or the... These groups have shown to be persistent and reliable ish. When I say reliable ish, significantly... Like, I’ve pointed out that Israel goes over a lot. They goes over way more than Israel. Like, Israel has done nothing on the scale of funding nine eleven, which Saudi Arabia did while we were their ally. Thanks, guys. Great. Yeah. Like, Israel has done bad stuff. Not not that bad. Not as bad as some of the stuff The UAE has done against our interests. but, like, one of the things that allows us to work with them is when they do this stuff, we’re like, they are of that autocratic Muslim cultural group. They just do stuff like this. And if we oppose them, then we lose an ally against more dangerous groups in the region to our interests, like Iran, for example. And I think that that... That’s where that is. Now when it comes to Muslim immigrant populations in countries like Europe, in The United States, I think it’s one of those things where it’s sorta like, prove to me that you can make it work, guys. I I... That’s all I need to see is some group of prosocial, high fertility, and non, that, like, has never put out any form of, aggression or funded terrorism or, had terrorists come out of their group. Like, we recently saw in a, attack... The the attack on the the plane that

Simone Collins:The Dubai attack where an Omani man

Malcolm Collins:Yeah.

Simone Collins:The out... It wasn’t actually... He didn’t have a pocket knife, by the way. He used the emergency escape axe that is within the the cockpit, which now has me terrified because, apparently, every cockpit has an axe in Great. but he turned out to have, at at least allegedly, are social media posts of him saying that he became radicalized more as as an Islamic person in Western countries, especially Australia, than he ever did in Islamic countries where actually he felt his, faith was waning. Yeah. That’s actually we covered separately. I think, Malcolm, you did a whole episode on that how, like, actual religious faith in, for example, Iran was atrocious, though.

Malcolm Collins:Islamic radicalization... This is why I say we can work well with the autocratic Muslim countries Yeah. Because they do not create this level of radicalization.

Simone Collins:Well, it’s it’s it’s so ironic too. Like, the the biggest enemies of Western civilization are the urban monoculture. No one hates Westerners more than, like, your woke urban technocrat, basically, and those people are now radicalizing Islamic people to then go and commit acts of terror on airplanes full of children.

Malcolm Collins:And I... Yeah. My my takeaway on this is in Muslim countries where it’s operating well, Muslims live under severe government control authority. They they have very little personal freedoms. You look at a country like Saudi Arabia or The UAE or something like this, and that seems to work. Okay? I think either we need to develop some sort of system like the Ottoman system where every religion is sort of responsible for its own people.

Simone Collins:Oh, like, Santropis or something?

Malcolm Collins:it was called the, I’ll add it in post. Oh, millet system. The millet system. and they... This allowed for collective punishment because it was like, well, if you’re not governing your population in a way that leads to positive actions, then collective punishment makes sense for that population with increasing government authority or control of this particular population. If I was setting up a new country, we actually have a guide for doing this. We recommend a system like that. In terms of what happens to the countries that have accepted large groups of Muslim populations, I really... I only see blood in the future, blood or massive remigration. Because the Europeans and Americans who are having lots of children, they are the most hostile to these groups. And the people within these groups... Yes. Many integrate. But the people within these groups that are having lots of children, they are the most hostile to European cultural norms, often significantly more so than Muslims in Muslim majority countries. I I won’t even say often. On average, more so. Like, the the The UAE had them put their, like, defense ministers come up and be Europe, you need to crack down on your Muslims. Like, they’re they’re... You’re creating terrorists, which are becoming a problem for us. Okay? Because they come back to our countries and commit terrorism sometimes. Like, I don’t care if they blow up a building in Europe, but, like, can you stop it? Can you stop allowing them to radicalize?

Speaker 13:There will come a day that we will see far more radical extremists and terrorists coming out of Europe because of lack of decision making, trying to be politically correct, or assuming that they know the Middle East, and they know Islam, and they know the others far better than we do. And I’m I’m sorry, but that’s pure ignorant.

Speaker 14:Essentially... And Muslims are telling you this. Muslim populations cannot be treated like non Muslim populations in a legal perspective. In the Muslim countries that are doing particularly well, they have incredibly authoritarian governments. There there hasn’t been a super successful nonauthoritarian Muslim state. In in Europe, especially in Protestant Europe, when you have more democracy, when you have more freedom, you typically get more thriving. And you move a Muslim population into that, and you’re you’re creating. .. It’s not that Muslims can’t be a productive populations or a good people, but it’s a it’s a complete cultural package. You can’t just move people from one cultural system into another cultural system and expect it to work when that first cultural system is entirely built around an authoritarian government style, when it was built to work under that and was in that. And there are Muslims telling you that you are being Islamophobic by not fully grokking this.

Malcolm Collins:Because, like, when you arrest someone in Scotland for writing Islam, it can be questioned on a wall, as happened. that creates problems when you literally cannot question because that allows for radicalization spirals. I really don’t think there’s anything to do that... Like, this is what I would say to any Muslim because, you know, we’ve got Muslim fans. realistically, this is the way the rest of the world is beginning to see things at this point. You guys are kind of on a countdown to make something work. And I don’t know what that’s gonna look like, but figure it out and quickly. Because you’ve probably got about a generation and a half before politically. Like, if you look at the political winds of right wing extremism, people just decide to do massive remigration, and that’s if you’re lucky. That’s if you’re very, very lucky when I look at the types of views that are becoming more popular. As for other groups, you know, obviously, the Sikhs have been causing a lot more problems recently in different countries. This is another group that I think should also be doing a lot of inwards soul searching around, like, how do I make this work? Because I I... And I wanna point out here, if you’re like a Muslim and you’re like, this is an unfair test, it’s not unfair at all. I I can say that black culture in America has a lot of problems. Okay? And I can say that on average, blacks in America who are having lots of kids are often some of the, you know, worst cultural actors if you look at the number of black people who grow up without their fathers and stuff like that. But I can also say, I know completely based awesome black families that have lots of kids and could work long term with American culture and are working to build cultural groups that work in opposition to mainstream black culture in America and work towards true American values. I haven’t seen that with Muslim groups, and that’s worrying me. Right? So... And because because if we can create the sort of, like, autonomous version of right wing culture that we’re looking to create, eventually, like, people are gonna start taking account and being like, okay. So we have some groups that appear to be able to work with us and some groups that don’t appear to be able to work with us. and I’d note if you’re the type of right wing that, like, doesn’t like this and wants to be like, no. We should just be... By the way, your camera went out.

Simone Collins:Sorry. Give me a second. I’m fixing it.

Malcolm Collins:We should just be racist, pattern matching. Like, people got mad at that in the Harry Potter song. It’s like, you will lose elections, and you will eventually be eradicated if you do that. Because then you make an enemy of everybody who does know a base, awesome, black family. Right? If you say something like all Muslims are something like this, and people know as we do many secularized really cool Muslims are mostly secularized or no Muslims in royal families in, you know, the The Middle East that are doing a good job managing their own people, you you you lose as a supporter. And you... That is un... Whether you say fortunately or unfortunately, the majority of people in The United States. Even the majority of right wing white people who have ethnic anxiety in The United States will vote against you if you say no to all Muslims, no to all blacks, no to all Indians, no to all... You’ll not win. Okay? and that’s a... If if your goal is not to look cool to people online, which is pathetic, you’re just, like, masturbating basically online in front of us all. But to actually win any sort of cultural value... Battle, that is only done through having more kids. That’s the only way it’s done. You can go... That is... They... You can block off all your borders like at South Korea, and it will do nothing. You will die alone. That is what will happen to you. and so there’s those of us that are having the big boy conversation over here. Like, how do we actually make this work? How do we actually form intergenerational alliances? And where are there actual persistent issues? And then there’s the people having the pretend conversation to look like the coolest conservative online. And you don’t look cool. You look like a child. That is that is what you end up looking like because everybody knows you’re not gonna win elections with those values. And the reason being is because America is so integrated, everybody has a friend who’s something else. And the fact that you don’t, I can only just assume that you don’t have any friends or something. Like, that’s what it looks like

Simone Collins:to everyone. It would seem impossible to me. I really can’t imagine. I can’t... I... Yeah. I can’t imagine. Like, remember when they tried

Malcolm Collins:to create an all white city? What happened? The biggest problem is is all the guys shining up had Latin girlfriends because nobody’s really actually that racist anymore. Right? Like, that’s why the Southern Poverty Law Center had to fund the KKK. You’re LARPing to nobody. You’re you’re LARPing for the Southern Poverty Law Center. Hooray. Hooray. They love what you’re doing. You’re helping them so much. Anyway It’s really something. I find that very annoying.

Simone Collins:Yeah. I mean, it is what it is. Right?

Malcolm Collins:Love you, Samad.

Simone Collins:I love you too.

Malcolm Collins:Missing you. We’re both working so hard. You know? I I have so many things to do, so much to keep track of, improve. It’s overwhelming. It’s super overwhelming.

Simone Collins:And then I feel so bad for everyone. Like, you know, the the family drama that we should be following up with that we’re not following up with, that the... All the the the people who’ve written to us with really, like, big personal updates or requests or things, and I just, like, can’t.

Malcolm Collins:Because AI makes it so much easier to be productive. I mean, who who’d think that our major project right now... You don’t even know what I’ve been building. So outside of the game, which hopefully we can have live soon Yes. I’ve been spending a lot more time on the tablet.

Simone Collins:I’m so all in on this kid’s tablet. I, yeah, I too have been fixing little things. And You

Malcolm Collins:can find it on mudpuppy.ai under carrier device around and then use an Android tablet.

Simone Collins:And the thing testing it right now. They’re they’re they’re like... Because they had they had their normal tablets that, like, played, you know, like, kid... Educational kid shows and Khan Academy Kids and whatever. But, like, they’re like, I want the the daddy tablet.

Malcolm Collins:Can we do that? The daddy tablet is way better because it’s not those cheesy shows. It’s nineteen nineties, like, eyewitness documentaries and historic documentaries. And Yeah. You know, and they can use those to earn tickets. But what you haven’t seen with the new system is now it has a companion app button, that the kid can push at any time to talk to, and it has a personality and a memory. and it knows what the kid is doing on the app. And I really don’t

Simone Collins:talk with them about the documentary. Like, hey. What did you think about those whales? How about them?

Malcolm Collins:Actually, I’m... I wanna make extra sure it can tell, like, what the kid is watching, see it.

Simone Collins:Wow. Wow.

Malcolm Collins:And, like, for the schooling system that he does, time to learn, it has specific integrations with that to, like, talk back to him at the end, you know, like, explain to him the questions he got wrong, explain to him why they’re wrong.

Simone Collins:My gosh. Wow.

Malcolm Collins:You know, like, walk through... That’s that’s what I wanted from this.

Simone Collins:It’s crap.

Malcolm Collins:And the

Simone Collins:skull didn’t make It’s it’s the best you can get online in terms of just plug and play and statutory requirements, but I I mean, I’m... We’re going to get rid of it and just replace it with the the stuff we have on this, just so you know, for future reference.

Malcolm Collins:Yep.

Simone Collins:That is so cool, Malcolm. Thank you. I’m really excited. I need... My... The next thing I’m gonna do is make a reading comprehension game.

Malcolm Collins:Great. I’ve added a few... A science game and a history game that they can play. And we are gonna make the best education system because our original one, Paresia, is really good, but it’s for older kids. It’s really meant to be up to, like, a PhD level thing, and replace high school for our kids, which is what I started on. But this, it’s more of a collection of games and experiences in a points economy, which is really aimed at younger kids with the type of things like learn how to say the number, and then it has a audio, and it’s like

Simone Collins:Well, that’s... It goes from number sense through arithmetic. So it’s not just number sense.

Speaker 15:Are you a kitten? I mean, can I just split some of tits and find a dog? Because you’re... I know. Look at the attic.

Speaker 16:She does it like a kitten, even like a cat. Like a little bitty kitten.

Speaker 15:Are you a kitten, Indy? Are you a What kind of kitten are you? Yeah. Yeah? What does the kitten say? You wanna

Speaker 16:go upstairs with daddy? Daddy.