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Welcome. I really appreciate your time. And this
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one is going to be slightly different. because
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you are my second guest from America. And I'm
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very excited to our conversation. So I'm just
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going to let you introduce yourself. Yeah, thank
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you for having me, Ivan. We've been trying to
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do this for a few months now and my schedule
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has just been so busy. So I appreciate you being
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flexible and go with the flow about it. I really
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wanted to come here to the space with a pace
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of like abundance and ease versus like stress.
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So I was like really happy that I was feeling
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that lately. You've been on my mind. So I was
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like, we got to talk to Ivan. My name is Katie
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Sturvins. I am a 500 -hour yoga teacher, Akashic
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record reader, Reiki master. I'm from New York,
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the USA. I met Ivan through teaching at the Golden
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Yogi Studio in New Zealand. I have been reading
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the records for like three or four years now
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professionally. It all kind of started when I
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got into yoga itself. Not that yoga is a spiritual
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practice, though it really can be. I really got
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into the movement and the studio I was going
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to in Long Island had this free energy 20 minute
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healing with a local guy who was just trying
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to generate some business. And so like last minute
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randomly, I was like, I don't know what this
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is, but this is cool. It's free. Why not? I just
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like the yoga and aspect of it. And so I went
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to a session and it was like mind blowing, changed
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my life. He completely saw me. He read my energy.
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We've completely. present in the moment he's
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like i could just see there's just so much not
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to say that there wasn't already but potential
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and just a yearning for more and achieving that
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through diving deeper into these spaces so it
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kind of tumbled from there into this journey
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of spirituality and yoga and becoming a teacher
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myself so from there i really Got more into learning
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about different practices, not only the physical
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stuff of yoga, but different other elements of
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like spirituality. I really got into meditation
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and sound healing and breath work and really
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grounding into the body. And it wasn't until
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I had my own reading read by somebody in Brooklyn
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just during COVID that I was like, wow, game
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changer. And it, the reading itself with that
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person. It completely just changed how I viewed
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my life because I felt very, during COVID, very
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stuck, very uninspired. I just craved so much
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more than what I was doing and what I had. I
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don't know if so many other people did during
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COVID. And I was like, let me just see what else
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is out there. I was really just curious about
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like kind of a psychic world, spirituality. And
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then we had the reading and she's like, I really
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see you developing into your leadership, leading
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yoga classes, getting your teaching certification,
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but abroad somewhere, really focusing on meditation
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and just becoming this like full person. And
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I was like, wow, I never imagined that for myself
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ever becoming a teacher or leading a class or
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talking to people like that. I was like, that's
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not me. I worked in fashion. But then later on
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that year, I found a beautiful program in Peru
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and I got my 200 hour certificate and I was there
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for the month of December and I just had the
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best time. And from there, I know it just keeps
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going and going. I started teaching in New York
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City, was there for about two years and I became
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incredibly burnt out from that. I was working
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full time and then teaching a bunch of classes
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and I was also teaching hot yoga. I don't know
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if you've ever tried hot yoga. No. It's so intense.
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The room is about like 96 degrees. Teaching three
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or four classes a day. It just became incredibly
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burnt out, like draining for me versus like thriving.
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And I also was uninspired in my job. I was like,
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I don't want to do this anymore. And then from
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there, I just craved more and more adventure,
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more excitement. So I quit my job. I still taught
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yoga, but then I moved to Hawaii for a few months.
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And I was like, wow, let's just like be in nature,
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get out of the city, like go surfing, go hiking.
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And it was exactly what I needed to really like.
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recover from being burnt out and still keeping
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on with teaching. And during this time, I also
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discovered I took a Reiki course as well. And
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I really opened up that door into spirituality.
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And for those who don't know, Reiki is energy
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healing. It is chakras aligned in the body. It
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is connecting mind, body, soul, but on a more
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spiritual, energetic feeling level. And so I
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became a Reiki master through that. And I, from
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there, got another reading. Sometimes when you
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get these Akashic record readings, it's more
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about getting direction. And that's how it was
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for me. Other people get different things from
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it. But for me, I was like, where can I go next?
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How do I take this all to the next level? And
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getting another reading showed me that maybe
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I do readings. Maybe I keep showing up in spaces
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as a healer, as a leader, as a guide for other
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people. And it really kind of like snowballed
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from there. To be honest, you are a great yoga
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teacher. I mean, I really love your yoga classes,
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not just because of the movement that you put
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together, but... you always have a way to bring
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the energy back in the room and then make me
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feel really grounded. Because each yoga instructors
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come with different style and all that. And I
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love them all. But you can always feel there
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is a subtleness amongst all the yoga teacher
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in the end of the classes, how they make you
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feel, what kind of energy that bring it to the
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room. And you were just incredible. I mean, I'm
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50 something. So to me, how can this? Young lady
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able to do that, especially your slow flows in
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the afternoon class or morning. And people love
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it. You start building up groups of people, but
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then because the classes change, that was incredible.
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People were worried about how good it felt. classes.
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Thank you. You also move really great for somebody
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your age. And that just shows you how important
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yoga is in taking care of your body. Like he
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is so flexible, so bendy. He always tries all
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the advanced moves. It is incredible to see.
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And it's delightful to teach somebody just so
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interested in pushing themselves no matter their
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age and whether they're more mobile or not. It's
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just awesome to see people who like want to be
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there. And I really love that class. I love the
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people who showed up every week. They were so
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sweet. And I just got excited to teach it because
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it felt it felt really good all around. So I'm
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glad that really emulated through. By the way,
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so Before you were a yoga instructor, you worked
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in the fashion industry. Yeah, so it's such a
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long journey. I know I was kind of starting getting
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into it. I went to school for fashion merchandising
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and retail marketing. I was always interested
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in fashion growing up, the fashion magazines.
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I lived near New York City, so I would go to
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Fashion Week all the time. And I really loved
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that kind of fast -paced environment. But when
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I got out of school and I got like a corporate
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job, I realized the glitz and glam you see on
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TV only really happens for a very small section
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that's really difficult to get into. And the
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degree I got, it was really hard for me to correlate.
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So I worked at like product development, which
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essentially was like a digital paper pusher.
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And there was no creative side to it. very minimal
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social interactions. I did not enjoy it. I was
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like, what is this? I hate this. Like, I felt
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so uninspired every day. I was like, I was trudging
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to work at a job that just didn't feel like would
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help me grow in any aspect that I wanted to.
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And I really realized that I am just not meant
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to sit in an office all day. I really love moving
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my body. I really love connecting with people
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one -on -one, connecting with yoga students,
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connecting with people who come for Reiki. And
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to me, that just feels more fulfilling. And I
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know you've had a bunch of sessions done and
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you've had such a wide experience too. And that's
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really awesome. Yeah. However, having said that,
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then what drew you into yoga in the first place?
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I mean, how that then kind of started? Yeah,
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it really started after college when I came back
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and kind of got that first full -time job. And
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I've tried yoga in college, like free classes,
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but I wasn't that into it. But then my friend
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got me into Bikram yoga, the hot yoga, ironically,
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and that's a really hot class. It's like 104
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degrees. And there's like a set sequence. And
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it was like the craziest thing in my life. But
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I would leave that class feeling so good after,
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you know, you die during that. And I was like,
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this is just great. So I started to get more
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into yoga. And then I started to do like regular
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classes in not heated rooms. And I realized I'm
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not flexible. Everything hurts. I remember this.
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It was embarrassing. One class I went to, it
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was like a beginner class. And the lady was like,
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oh, go into pigeon. I'm like. what's a pigeon?
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Why are there birds here? And she was like, you
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should come to our beginner class. Like we're
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going to take it so slow. And I was like, I don't
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want to do that. Don't single me out. But then
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I did it. And I was like, just learning to practice
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and learning how it felt in the body. And then
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once you sit in pigeon, if those who don't know,
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it's like a really deep hip opener pose. And
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hips tend to hold a lot of emotions and stress.
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And when you tend to stretch a position for so
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long, your body starts to release. the myofascia
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and you relax and those emotions spread and i
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remember the first time i was in pigeon i was
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like crying my eyes out i'm like what is happening
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i'm in a yoga class crying like what and that
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was before i had any like idea of mind body connection
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or how your body keeps the score how your body
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just relates to all of this and i was like this
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is crazy to me and so it really just kind of
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developed from there mostly from a curiosity
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of like It is a lot on the body, but what am
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I holding on to? Like, what else is, like, there
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that I'm not seeing? Like, more of a self -reflection
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and growth. And it's incredible how it goes.
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Are you always that spiritual, Katie? Or that
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kind of, like, only slowly grow from your yoga
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learning? It's kind of like how I said in the
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beginning. It really snowballed from something
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so small. Especially my time after college, getting
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that first job. Where I lived, I lived with somebody
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who considered themselves, like, a Wiccan into
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spirituality. And they practiced, like, kind
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of earth magic in a way where they would make
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altars and crystals and take care of nature.
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And I was like, what is any of this? But this
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looks cool. I was just interested in all that
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stuff for my love of Halloween as a child. And
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from there, it really just like snowballed altogether.
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The more I got into yoga, the more I got into
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not only thinking and feeling good thoughts,
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but also working on that and exploring the spiritual
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side of things. I grew up like a traditional
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American Christian where I kind of just went
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to church during the holidays, but never really
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taking it as a faith, more as an obligation.
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And when it really started to turn into almost
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my own personal faith was looking really deeply
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inward. And that's the journey I've been on,
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like looking deep inward, seeing that internal
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faith in God is within you or God and finding
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that throughout others. came in tandem with yoga.
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It all came together. Like I would do yoga and
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then I would go to therapy and then I would have
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this big revelation and then I would work through
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my body and then I would do Reiki and then I
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would heal myself and then I would have another
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revelation. It just like snowballed again and
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again. Wow. And by the way, I just suddenly remember
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you also been to India, isn't it? Yes. Okay.
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So I got my 300 hour in India. Have you been
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there? I don't know if you've had. No, no, I
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never. But I remember we have a conversation
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because you have a t -shirt. Yeah, good memory.
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Yeah, I went to India two to three years ago
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to get my 300 hour to develop more into it. specific
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kind of teacher. And I was in Kerala, the south
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of India, which is known for its spiritual practices
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and beautiful temples. And it's very hot and
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humid. So basically, I was doing hot yoga there
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all the time. And I just felt such magic there.
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And I stayed at an Ayurveda center. So I've never
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stayed at a place like this where everything
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was centered around the treatments you were getting
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and the doshas and whatever your body type is.
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And so you would eat certain foods, you would
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wake up a certain way, you would go to a pool
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at a certain time. what was cooling and heating
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and living at the center while also doing like
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this really insane yoga was very very intense
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and also really magical and the teachers I had
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they spoke Sanskrit so we got to hear the written
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word spoken we got to do a lot of chanting a
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lot of embodiment and work of course on the yoga
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and the physicality all that teaching like bigger
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classes more information focus versus sequences
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like say if I was doing an event or doing like
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a longer talk and whatnot and really just like
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understanding the information and the origins
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of yoga and the shirt you saw was actually from
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an ashram i stayed at little light later which
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is basically another yoga center where they have
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gurus and spiritual teachers and a very strict
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schedule too and just like kind of surrendering
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to certain knowledge in certain ways it's like
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kind of opens you into a whole new world if you're
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really looking for Honestly, any internal depth,
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internal spirituality, whether it be physical
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or mental, and you maybe don't want to do therapy,
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this is a really great avenue where you can do,
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usually you do yoga twice a day. You wake up
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at six, you do a meditation, you do the yoga,
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then you do a lecture or class. It's like a schedule,
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but a lot of it's also part of like the balance
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in life and giving back. So when you're there,
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you do a lot of community service. cleaning of
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the dorms, you do cooking, you do cleaning of
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kitchens, and really just community -based, good
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feelings, vibes. And it was just a really beautiful
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experience. And I always try to emulate the things
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I learn. One thing I was always taught is you
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can only teach what you know, and you can only
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share the information you have and understanding
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how far that goes. And I sometimes don't even
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know how much I don't know until I go to somebody
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else's class. There was a teacher in New Zealand
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who was so great with her cues and the music.
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It was so aligned. I was like, I've never had
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an experience like this. It felt spiritual in
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a way, even though she didn't talk about spirituality.
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It was a very physical class, but the way it
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was emulated, it was like, wow, crazy. And so
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I always try to just dive deeper into my own
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practice so I can share that with others, you
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know? What made you decide to go to India and
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do the 300? So what pushed you into India? When
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I was in Hawaii, I stayed with a woman named
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Tan Mayo, who is this beautiful French woman.
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It was in her 60s. And she lived in India in
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her early 20s, just on the streets, just experiencing
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this whole spiritual thing and passage. And she
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leads these retreats every year to India. And
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I really enjoyed her company. I loved her classes.
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And she was going in February. And she was like,
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you want to come? Bring some friends. We'll do
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a whole retreat. And I'll show you around. And
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we'll have a good time. And I was like, yeah.
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let's let's go like it's always something i do
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believe like you were called to certain places
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or you meant to experience certain things and
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that's something with the records i really discovered
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with myself and others it's like if you feel
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like a thought that keeps popping in your head
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or somebody keeps asking you the same question
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or different people are asking the same question
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or like oh why don't you go do this why don't
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you do this and it's the same answer like you're
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being called kind of to try that or test it forward
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and that was india for me And I wanted to deepen
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my practice anyway. I was like, if I'm going
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to be in India, I got to do an India yoga retreat,
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like the origin. So it worked out. Honestly,
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weirdly how well to the T, like the first retreat
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was 10 days with Tamayo. And then the day after
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was this 300 hour course that just started for
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three weeks. And I was like, that's just too
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good to stop. And I just went there and had that
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experience. It just kind of came out and I was
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like, do I do this? Do I go? It's a big commitment,
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yada, yada. But I was like in between kind of
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gigs and still floating around. So I was like,
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I'll just go. It's fine. And it was. Yeah. And
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then what leads you to New Zealand? That's such
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a long story. I'll tell you the one. It's so
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crazy how it's interconnected. Not a good reason,
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let me tell you, New Zealand. It wasn't great.
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So I was continuing on the yoga journey. I met
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someone from the yoga training who I wanted to
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run a retreat with. So we were planning for next
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year, the year after in February to do our own
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yoga retreat, not a training, just like a 10
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day, bring people, like have the experience we
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had. And so I was planning on that anyway. And
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then I was starting to get into teacher trainings.
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I wanted to teach teacher trainings. The way
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the work schedule worked out was when I came
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back from India to New York, I was kind of planning
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all that, sorting out, still teaching locally.
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And then I got an opportunity to teach in Bali
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for a month as a teacher, assistant teacher trainer
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to like. learn the ropes, do some teaching, really
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understand like what a teacher trainer on the
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other side looks like. But when I was in Bali,
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I got so sick. Reoccurring Bali belly. I was
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in a motorcycle accident. I just like had the
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worst time. I got hit with a massive fine on
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my way out from having the wrong visa, which
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was my own fault, but they're very strict with
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it. And I was like so done. So after the Bali
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ended, that was December. I had a few weeks home
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between Bali and India where it's like, oh, I
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could go back to New York. Or I can stay on this
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side of the world until India. And I was like,
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I don't want to do like 24 hours each way. It's
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crazy. But then I was like, I can't stay in Bali.
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I'm going to die. It's killing me. So I was like,
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let me go somewhere that's kind of a Western
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culture, cleaner water and hygiene practices.
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And maybe that will kill me. And I've never been
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to New Zealand. I did Australia already. And
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I was like, let me just go. And I just booked
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it randomly. I was like, do I just go? Do I do
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it? Do I do it? My friends were like, yeah, just
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you have the time. And luckily the money at the
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time I was saving up a lot. And I just went and
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it was like angels opening the door. I could
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not explain to you how good I felt. I was able
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to eat solid skin. I was able to like breathe
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fresh air. And it was January in New Zealand
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at the time. So it was summer and it was so not
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humid compared to what Bali was. Humid, rainy,
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wet. And then New Zealand was dry, beautiful,
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great, fresh water, air. Oh my God, I was in
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love. I really did the tours. I loved the locals.
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I loved it here. I was just enchanted. I wasn't
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planning on coming back, actually. But then I
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went to India, had the retreat. After that, I
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got sick again. I was like, God, these places
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are killing me. So then I just wasn't ready to
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go home. Truthfully, I was like, I don't want
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to go back to New York right now. I think I still
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I'm feeling called to travel. And so then I was
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like, let me just go back to New Zealand. So
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then I did the year long visa working holiday
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visa. And honestly, New Zealand, and this was
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so surprising to me finding this out, but New
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Zealand has such a great wellness community there.
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You guys have static dances. You have a bunch
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of outdoor festivals. You have a lot of studios.
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There's so much going on outdoors. That's why
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I really stayed for the year because I love all
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that. You have cacao ceremonies. You have places
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that sell cacao. And I've never met any place
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in the world, especially not in the United States,
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that does things like that. And it was the best
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experience of my life. I got to meet so many
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people. I had a festival. I got to go to weekly
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aesthetic dance classes on a Wednesday. I threw
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that. I had cacao every day. And I was in the
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city. I was in Auckland Centre, so I was still
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able to have a normal... normal as I say life
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but still really have this side of spirituality
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that I loved I don't know if you found that too
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yeah I did a few things with a friend the aesthetic
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dance as well and that was the first time I experienced
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it yeah so this is Like what you say, you know,
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it's so accessible. But on the other hand, you
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kind of have to go and discover it because it's
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not in your face all the time, which is great.
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And so you do have that freedom to choose. I
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know you've been to one of the festivals and
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that was done through volunteering and helping
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out. So I went to a few. The first festival I
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went to was New Zealand Spirit Fest. And that
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was like the last year they ever did it. So I
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was really lucky to go. And that's when I really
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kind of got into festivals. I didn't have a lot
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of money at this point. I was like, how do I
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go to a festival, enjoy it, and not have to pay
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all this money? And then my friend was like,
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you could just volunteer. I was like, what? So
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I did two festivals this year. I volunteered
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at two different ones. One was OM Festival. The
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other one was Dimension. I'd say if you're ever
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volunteering for a festival, volunteer either
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before or after because volunteering in festival,
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going to a festival just like isn't fun. It felt
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like work to me. And yeah, I just got like, you
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do have to find it, but also it's so easy to
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find. Like the static dance, I always look for
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those things where I live because that's something
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I really love and passionate about. But like,
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it's not always accessible. Like where I am in
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New York right now, there's nothing like that
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around here. Nothing, maybe a big EDM type event,
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but it's not like an ecstatic dance specifically,
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which is its own journey in itself. more spiritual
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and internal versus like drinking and dancing
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you know yeah you should create one i should
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have enough projects though ivan it's on my list
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i'll just maybe i should just go back to new
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zealand and just live it there but maybe i really
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like to talk to you more about the casual records
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that you know like because i think that i experienced
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as well through you When I have a reading from
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you, which was really amazing, especially the
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part where I never tell anyone this, like there's
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a part of me always felt like something to do
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with doctor. I can't even explain. I'm not a
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doctor, but I felt there's something that connect
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to me to be a doctor, but I'm not really wanting
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to be a doctor. It's never my dreams. And when
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you say my previous life, I was a doctor. And
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even though it wasn't what I wanted, but. I was
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probably forced to do it, but then I did it.
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And it made a lot of sense to me because I always
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have that feelings about being a doctor. I can't
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explain because it's not like I'm a doctor, you
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know, like, so that really stood out to me because
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I never tell anyone that because it's crazy,
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like, you're not a doctor. I didn't go to medical
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school. What's this feeling? It's so interesting
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to see other people's perspectives on the readings.
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And so I'll go quickly to what it is. So basically,
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the Akashic records themselves was something
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that was not invented, but almost kind of rediscovered
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in the mid 1800s. It's kind of derived when...
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And Chinese philosophy came to the U .S. and
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came to like the Western world. And so and Hinduism
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and Buddhism. So Akashic records, the word Akasha
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means is a Hindu word for it means ether or light
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or shining. It's usually the space above your
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head, like the outer world. And it's also in
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Ayurveda and yoga philosophies. You'll see this
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word a lot. And so how it is used now and how
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I use it, the Akashic records is essentially
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a spiritual library. Like each soul has a record
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of its imprint on. earth or not earth or whatever
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its journey is from beginning of its creation
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to where it is now and where it's going. And
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so the records is like a spiritual channeling
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that we go through during the session to like
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see past lives, see karmic recycling, see what
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comes up for you and where you could probably
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take that, where you want to go or what steps
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you could take in the future in this present
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life. And it's a really beautiful eye -opening
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experience. And so for you, the doctor, what
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happens is when you have a really strong past
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life and you have a really intense story that
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maybe you loved or just had a big impact on you,
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that echoes and stays with you through. your
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next life and so when you aren't a doctor in
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your next life but you're still doing things
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to help people and you're feeling called to like
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share stories and feeling called to heal people
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in certain ways even if it's not traditional
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medicine it like echoes through you from where
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you were in your past life and that's why when
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you have these thoughts of like oh i'm a doctor
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though maybe not this life like you're like that
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i'm not but you were and you always kind of will
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be in your head and that soul that knows not
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that you should be practicing medicine right
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now but like in your soul's purpose and so People
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sometimes have the thoughts of like, why am I
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drawn to a place or why does this keep coming
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up? Or like, why do I love dance so much? Or
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why, like, what is it? Like, it's not like I'm
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an extraordinary dancer, this and that, but like
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in your past lives, you could have been, or you
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were always interested in this line of work.
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And seeing that echo through your current life
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and where you want to go, it's really a beautiful
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thing. It's like, wow, this can just take us
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everywhere. And it's just incredible. It could
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be so healing. It could be so illuminating. And
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every reading I have is so different with everybody.
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They come to me with different reasons. they
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come to me they stay they whether they're looking
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for like why does this person keep popping up
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or this situation why don't i learn this lesson
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or why do i keep having these thoughts or these
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dreams and we just really could dive into like
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what's going on like with the records as well
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i also ask your spirit guys and angels to come
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along and anyone who it's not like a mediumship
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i don't speak to dead people but it's more about
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like internal reading with you And a lot of what
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I say I find people find is it's all like things
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they already know. It's reflective. It's not
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like new information to them because their soul
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is already aware of this. Sometimes it just needs
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to be illuminated by like a third party, you
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know? And also you did a Reiki healing for me.
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And at the time you identified some part of my
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body was having a blockage, which is true. I
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never tell people because there were a period
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of time where I have a lot of tightness on my
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chest. But when you read me with Reiki, What
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happened was there was a blockage just on my
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throat area, which I can really felt it. And
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then there was something that you say really
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resonate with me. You pointing out that I was.
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not having my boys hurt when I was younger. That's
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why there's like kind of like a poppages around
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my throat area. And again, I didn't tell anyone.
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I didn't tell you that, you know, I didn't know
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about that. It's something I can't like research
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beforehand. It's something you knew, only you.
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Yeah. So it's just quite incredible. Do you want
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to share a bit more if people don't know what
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to, yeah. The session I do is a little different.
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I incorporate Reiki first to really bring the
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chakras together, bring alignment into your body,
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kind of preparing it for that deeper reading.
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Not many people do this. You could do with a
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slight meditation. You can just kind of dive
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in. Or some people do more pre -set questions.
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But I really just like to tap into the energetic
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body first. Because like I said, the body does
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keep the score, especially energetically, whether
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it's from this life or a past life. And what
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we do is we go into those current blockages where
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you are physically right now in those chakra
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points. And we bring them up, open them, see
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what's going on, seeing if it's related to what's
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happening presently or the questions you might
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have. And nine times out of 10, it is. And it's
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things I just can't predict or even know beforehand
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or even think to ask you about that you might
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want to dive into. And it really brings this
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element of healing and lightness because once
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you bring the chakras into balance, you really
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tend to feel a sense of peace and openness. And
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so when you dive deeper into these questions,
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you're just open to not only hearing but receiving
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the answers. And there's so many times because
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I just use a channel. I just speak through people
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and I write it out for them. where it's like
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I don't even know what I'm saying and why I'm
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saying it like there are things I'm just like
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I don't know what this message is because it's
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not for me it's for the person I'm reading like
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there were things I said to you I'm just like
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I don't know why this is coming out like I don't
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know where it's coming from this is not what
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I know about you like I don't know you were a
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doctor like you were just Ivan from my class
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and I was like he just needs to hear it and it
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has to come out and it's that like hearing those
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things it really helped people not only know
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themselves better but feel better and also like
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tapping when people get reiki And Reiki itself
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is like something that could be done online or
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in person. It's just energy healing light transfer
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where it's like a relaxation technique in a way
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where even if you don't believe in the spirituality
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of it, you can become really relaxed and really
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open and just diving into those places that maybe
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need healing or opening up at places that are
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tense and tight. in a way where it's not a traditional
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massage it's really just an energetic thing and
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they could be so impactful because you're like
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this is already what i know is bothering me but
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i can't admit it or i can't name it or maybe
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i don't even know i can name it but i know where
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it is and it really just helps open that up for
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a deeper healing and a deeper session so this
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kind of like have a spiritual elements to it
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the yoga that kesha record and also the reiki
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so What is your next journey looks like? Yeah,
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through my personal life, I'm really trying to
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find where I can keep doing these sessions. So
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I do most of them online. Obviously, I record
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them and then I send them to the clients I have.
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But I'm really looking for a place to ground
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right now. So I'm not as into doing as many as
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I normally do. But the next step, I really want
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to find a place where I'm back to teaching. I
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haven't taught in a few months since I left New
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Zealand. I'm in like a bit of a transition period.
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So I want to get back to teaching, get back to
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doing these sessions, maybe some group sessions.
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kind of continuing in this field because it brings
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so much joy to other people and myself included
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just to like see people open up and to expand
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themselves into an avenue they never even thought
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or considered and it's there's so much i don't
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even know what's going to happen like there was
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so much from this journey last year to new zealand
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and from where i was like i don't know how this
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is going to end up i don't know where i'm going
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to go but i'm just going to follow my intuition
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my heart and see what happens so i think that's
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kind of where we're going now i was quite interested
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in how new zealand's really provide that space
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for you to embrace who you are with all the things
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that you enjoy doing and also having that community
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to support what you have learned as well. I hope
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you get a chance to come back to New Zealand
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again. I mean, that would be so good too. It
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really was. I felt like New Zealand was such
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a breath of fresh air for me because I never
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lived in a place that had such great work -life
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balance. And I think that was such a big point
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for me coming from New York where people are
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workaholics and they live for the weekend or
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they live to go drinking. I was just like, I
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wanted another way to live. I wanted to go out
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with people, but not always go drinking. I wanted
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to go dancing, but not always go drinking. I
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wanted to go... on a hike and go for a swim like
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outdoor things so that lifestyle really resonated
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with me without it being a whole town is kind
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of like this hippie culture but it's like people
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are just living their lives with nature in a
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way that feels very normal and very integrated
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and healthy and I was like that just felt awesome
00:28:05.059 --> 00:28:07.279
in a way I never experienced so and integrating
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what I love to do and having that so easily accessible
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was like a new thing for me so i really i really
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love new zealand i would love to come back we'll
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see what happens it's such a magical place it's
00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:18.180
just far from home that's my only thing it's
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really literally the other side of the world
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how did this lie now going back to new york and
00:28:24.900 --> 00:28:28.880
back in a big city again yeah it was a really
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hard shift It was something that I wanted to
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stay longer in New Zealand, but it didn't work
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out. And I'm sure there's a reason. But I did
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want to see my family. So it was really great
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to reconnect with everybody here and my friends.
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But I really just miss that lifestyle and culture
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and ease and accessibility and the connection
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with nature. And I live on Long Island, so you
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need a car to get everywhere. And everywhere
00:28:50.859 --> 00:28:53.519
is like 20, 30 minutes away. Whereas in New Zealand,
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:55.680
everything's like 10 to 15 minutes driving or
00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:58.039
walking. So it just feels very close together.
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And here, everything just takes a lot more planning
00:29:00.529 --> 00:29:02.769
and time and the lifestyle is different. So it's
00:29:02.769 --> 00:29:04.430
just a hard adjustment, but I'm used to it at
00:29:04.430 --> 00:29:07.829
least. So it's been fine. I'm curious to say
00:29:07.829 --> 00:29:10.609
the younger Katie, who is she? I don't know how
00:29:10.609 --> 00:29:13.750
many New Yorker I like who are actually living
00:29:13.750 --> 00:29:17.109
in a big city, but innately, you're always drawn
00:29:17.109 --> 00:29:19.349
to something else, even though you didn't have
00:29:19.349 --> 00:29:21.289
a name for it. And that's why you're kind of
00:29:21.289 --> 00:29:23.490
stumbling at different things and then really
00:29:23.490 --> 00:29:26.259
find your true callings. Another aspect that
00:29:26.259 --> 00:29:28.539
I find really interesting is that every time
00:29:28.539 --> 00:29:30.799
when you meet someone, that person kind of guide
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:32.980
you to the next journey that you didn't expect.
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:36.819
But then it kind of leads you to your true calling.
00:29:37.019 --> 00:29:40.059
So who is Katie when she was younger? It was
00:29:40.059 --> 00:29:43.640
such a character. I feel like Katie is the one
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:45.799
who was reading the books and dreaming about
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:48.000
these trips and adventures, whereas adult Katie
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:50.660
is the one actually experiencing them and trying
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to go for it. And that's something that just...
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:55.279
It comes from having the bravery to follow your
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:58.039
dreams and luckily the accessibility and timestamps.
00:29:58.079 --> 00:29:59.579
Like luckily I don't have a house or family to
00:29:59.579 --> 00:30:03.299
support so I can go travel the world and do these
00:30:03.299 --> 00:30:04.799
things. But that's also the choice I've been
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:07.220
making. I really just prioritized wanting to
00:30:07.220 --> 00:30:09.119
see the world. And it's been such a strong calling
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:11.619
for me ever since I was younger. I loved traveling.
00:30:11.779 --> 00:30:13.660
I loved adventures. I loved meeting new people,
00:30:13.740 --> 00:30:16.130
experiencing new things. I just always had a
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curiosity for stories and fantasy and all these
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worlds. Like when I was in New Zealand, I saw
00:30:21.029 --> 00:30:24.150
the Hobbiton set for Lord of the Rings and just
00:30:24.150 --> 00:30:25.950
like storytelling in general. And that's something
00:30:25.950 --> 00:30:28.430
I'm really into is telling stories and meeting
00:30:28.430 --> 00:30:30.589
people with their stories and gathering that
00:30:30.589 --> 00:30:32.789
and experiencing those books kind of in real
00:30:32.789 --> 00:30:34.529
life, even though obviously there's no dragons.
00:30:34.609 --> 00:30:37.730
But it's still such a beautiful thing. And I,
00:30:37.910 --> 00:30:40.769
yeah, I don't know. She would be in awe, I think.
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There's just a lot. There's a lot I've done.
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:44.799
I think it would be very surprising because I
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was so set on having a certain career. I was
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:50.000
so set on like being in the city, living this
00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:52.859
certain lifestyle. But then I was like, I think
00:30:52.859 --> 00:30:54.940
it took a lot of bravery to follow like the inner
00:30:54.940 --> 00:30:56.500
voice of like, there's more out there. You should
00:30:56.500 --> 00:30:57.980
go out there. You don't need to be here right
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now. It is. I agree because every journey took
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:05.019
some courage, isn't it? to make the jump because,
00:31:05.099 --> 00:31:08.240
as you say, you live in a big city and decided,
00:31:08.420 --> 00:31:10.759
I'm not going to carry on this anymore. I'm just
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:12.720
going to do something else. And the shift is
00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:16.380
not just tiny. The shift is huge. Yeah, it's
00:31:16.380 --> 00:31:17.900
a big shift. Difference. Yeah, big shift. And
00:31:17.900 --> 00:31:20.740
especially with, I mean, I'm talking about myself,
00:31:20.900 --> 00:31:23.279
you know, because I'm very spiritual, but it's
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:25.740
not only the last two years, finally, I have
00:31:25.740 --> 00:31:28.200
the courage to acknowledge that I'm very spiritual.
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:32.039
Because before that, there's the word spiritual.
00:31:32.140 --> 00:31:34.880
When you say in a different context, there's
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.640
always certain negativity or people think, oh,
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:40.000
you're very, very. It took me for a long time
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:42.160
to finally acknowledge that I'm a very spiritual
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:45.019
being. I believe something that is much bigger
00:31:45.019 --> 00:31:48.940
than myself and beyond what we can see and truly
00:31:48.940 --> 00:31:52.660
embracing it. So I'm really admire your courage
00:31:52.660 --> 00:31:56.230
at the age where you really. persuades what you
00:31:56.230 --> 00:31:59.269
know is your calling especially the first record
00:31:59.269 --> 00:32:02.329
reading that really changed your life traditionally
00:32:02.329 --> 00:32:05.390
isn't it I admire you because you really just
00:32:05.390 --> 00:32:07.190
show that you never stop growing and learning
00:32:07.190 --> 00:32:09.390
no matter what age you are you keep going and
00:32:09.390 --> 00:32:11.509
that's not something everybody does and so when
00:32:11.509 --> 00:32:13.390
I see you in these classes and doing these things
00:32:13.390 --> 00:32:16.299
and starting a podcast and it's just so magical
00:32:16.299 --> 00:32:18.240
like you're never done you never need to stop
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:20.019
you never need to kind of accept and that comes
00:32:20.019 --> 00:32:22.400
like you said it from a lot of acceptance like
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:24.440
i accept that this is what i believe i accept
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:26.519
that it's okay to believe this and i accept that
00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:28.259
that's not going to be everyone's cup of tea
00:32:28.259 --> 00:32:29.799
and that's something i've also been through like
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:32.500
my family does not understand my yoga and travel
00:32:32.500 --> 00:32:34.599
lifestyle they are actually very against it or
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:36.420
it's wrong or it's not how i should be living
00:32:36.420 --> 00:32:38.720
or it's all these things where it's like i know
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:40.680
that it's okay and i see other people living
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:42.960
this way and i know that they do it in a healthy
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.059
beautiful way where it's not like this horrible
00:32:45.059 --> 00:32:47.000
thing to run away. It's just, you're traveling
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:49.599
and experiencing life. And it's really beautiful.
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:52.019
And that you never stop growing and hearing that
00:32:52.019 --> 00:32:54.319
voice. And I think that, especially in my journey,
00:32:54.380 --> 00:32:56.500
I'm really meant to guide people into like listening
00:32:56.500 --> 00:32:58.359
and accepting who they are and what they want.
00:32:59.180 --> 00:33:00.859
You can have the thought of, I want to do this.
00:33:00.859 --> 00:33:02.220
I want to do this. But most people just have
00:33:02.220 --> 00:33:03.619
those thoughts. They don't go for it. They don't
00:33:03.619 --> 00:33:05.839
try or they try and fail. That's it. They don't
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.059
keep going where it's like, yes, failure is a
00:33:08.059 --> 00:33:10.400
part of it, but that's kind of part of the journey
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:12.259
and the fun of it. You know, life also isn't
00:33:12.259 --> 00:33:14.339
a linear thing. You can go from this corporate
00:33:14.339 --> 00:33:16.220
job, kind of the spiritual things and do the
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traveling and still live your life and not having,
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and also not being defined by one chapter. Like
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that one chapter doesn't define me. I experienced
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:24.940
it. But then it doesn't go to the next thing.
00:33:25.059 --> 00:33:27.400
By the way, so let's say if people want to find
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.539
you to do the reading for the record, do you
00:33:30.539 --> 00:33:32.940
still do that at the moment? Yes. So I have my
00:33:32.940 --> 00:33:34.859
website up. I'm going to put a new booking link
00:33:34.859 --> 00:33:37.240
on there. I got to fix that this week. But yeah,
00:33:37.339 --> 00:33:40.160
it's on my Instagram. Just lead them there if
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:42.079
you want. If not, it's pretty easy because I
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:44.339
do. I still offer it. I do it just because I'm
00:33:44.339 --> 00:33:45.839
not teaching at a studio and I don't promote
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:48.359
it regularly. I still do. Still really love doing
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:50.839
it. I love meeting people like this. I'm so glad
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:52.440
you've had such an amazing experience with this.
00:33:52.500 --> 00:33:54.480
I know like for me, when I was red, my whole
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:56.720
life like changed. And I was like, wow, of course,
00:33:56.740 --> 00:33:58.859
I never even knew I could open or open. How long
00:33:58.859 --> 00:34:02.539
was it ago when you started the yoga journey
00:34:02.539 --> 00:34:06.579
to now? Like how many years since? God, COVID
00:34:06.579 --> 00:34:09.199
really is when I started teaching because I got
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:12.079
my certificate 2020. But I really, like I said,
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:14.719
the journey for spirituality and yoga itself
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:17.960
was seven, eight years ago. That's a voice I
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:19.940
really listen to. Like when I was in my first
00:34:19.940 --> 00:34:22.659
training, I had a yoga teacher who was like 22
00:34:22.659 --> 00:34:25.159
years old. proficient in Sanskrit and like this
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:27.719
amazing, amazing person, like an angel on earth
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:31.000
was like so talented in her yoga, in her embodiment.
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:33.219
I was like, wow, she's so young and like lives
00:34:33.219 --> 00:34:35.719
this beautiful, successful life. I was just like
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:38.920
so inspired by that, that I just was like, I'm
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:41.159
going to do that. I want to go and teach and
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:43.780
experience and sing and dance and have fun and
00:34:43.780 --> 00:34:46.059
not just live this like corporate work life thing,
00:34:46.099 --> 00:34:47.980
but like incorporating, like enjoying what I
00:34:47.980 --> 00:34:50.280
do every day and not being miserable and trying
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:52.719
to find that like internal happiness with do.
00:34:52.780 --> 00:34:55.239
things I enjoy. It's been such like a fun, intense
00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:57.019
journey. And a lot of that has to do with wellness.
00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:00.320
I love yoga. I love teaching yoga. I love learning
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:02.179
about spirituality. The spirituality, yes, it
00:35:02.179 --> 00:35:04.920
can be like the inner healing heart and shadow
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:06.639
work and all that, but also it could be a lot
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:08.300
of fun. It's just like you feel lighter at the
00:35:08.300 --> 00:35:10.380
end of it. You learn that life isn't so serious.
00:35:11.099 --> 00:35:13.480
And it's meant to be fun and hopefully as easy
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:15.420
as it can be. Wow. You have a lot of wisdom,
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:17.980
Katie. I mean, I wish I were like you when I
00:35:17.980 --> 00:35:21.739
was younger. A lot of therapy, Ivan. A lot of
00:35:21.739 --> 00:35:23.639
therapy. No, the records have been helpful too.
00:35:23.739 --> 00:35:25.619
I use them as my personal guide all the time.
00:35:25.659 --> 00:35:27.300
I'm like, what do I do? Where do I go? And they're
00:35:27.300 --> 00:35:29.199
like, calm down and meditate. I'm like, okay.
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:31.639
It's really about the inner knowing and the biggest
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:33.380
part of the records. They're always leading me
00:35:33.380 --> 00:35:35.239
back to myself. They're like, they're there for
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:37.500
guidance, of course, but they are always telling
00:35:37.500 --> 00:35:40.380
me like. trust your voice trust your instinct
00:35:40.380 --> 00:35:42.099
and intuition because that's where the real magic
00:35:42.099 --> 00:35:45.340
is and trust that like what you want to do isn't
00:35:45.340 --> 00:35:47.380
like a horrible thing like you want to go travel
00:35:47.380 --> 00:35:49.659
go travel like these are good valid dreams go
00:35:49.659 --> 00:35:52.039
do them and that it's possible like these are
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:54.920
paths i can take like i i'm always like the first
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:56.519
to be like no i can't do that that's not possible
00:35:56.519 --> 00:35:58.800
it's just unrealistic versus like opening my
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:01.980
mind and being like wait maybe it is maybe i
00:36:01.980 --> 00:36:04.639
can just do it And finding out that you can,
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:06.139
even though there's challenges along the way
00:36:06.139 --> 00:36:07.780
and it can be really hard. It was really hard
00:36:07.780 --> 00:36:10.659
for me at times in New Zealand. I was like, yeah,
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:13.579
let's just go, surrender, jump off. I remember
00:36:13.579 --> 00:36:15.820
when you first, I know it's hard. That's why
00:36:15.820 --> 00:36:18.940
I have so much admiration because I know how
00:36:18.940 --> 00:36:21.940
hard it is, especially if you live in New York,
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:26.639
growing up in this very capitalism belief. It's
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:29.699
always pursuing something like security, job.
00:36:29.980 --> 00:36:33.579
And you literally say, I'm not going to do this
00:36:33.579 --> 00:36:35.980
I can't understand how your family is going to
00:36:35.980 --> 00:36:38.000
freak out it's like oh my god what's going on
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.519
I know they're so traditional so like you need
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:41.920
to make money have a job and that's your life
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:43.639
and then get married have babies and I'm like
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:45.840
even if I do get married and have kids I'm going
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:47.420
to still take them with me to travel the world
00:36:47.420 --> 00:36:49.800
like they're coming with me and it's just like
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:51.599
that non -traditional and I really feel like
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:53.480
it's mostly like I'm kind of trailblazing in
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:55.000
my family because it's very non -traditional
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:57.139
like everyone's always had jobs and I've worked
00:36:57.139 --> 00:37:00.360
since I was 13 like I'm good And I see this with
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.980
my dad. He was somebody who worked in a job that
00:37:02.980 --> 00:37:06.619
he hated for years. He wasn't happy with himself
00:37:06.619 --> 00:37:08.119
at the end of the day because you spend so much
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:10.340
time giving something that just isn't bringing
00:37:10.340 --> 00:37:12.079
you fulfillment, if not fulfillment, at least
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:14.059
indifference, that it's not like a drain on your
00:37:14.059 --> 00:37:16.840
life. And I just was very determined to find
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:19.659
something that felt fulfilling and felt interactive
00:37:19.659 --> 00:37:21.619
and felt like I could not only make a living,
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.599
but experience and enjoy. And so that was kind
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:26.320
of the main mantra and goal of my life. And I
00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:28.079
found that when I was in certain corporate jobs,
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.929
I was not happy. I was like, this is just so
00:37:30.929 --> 00:37:32.949
draining. I want to go home and do nothing, which
00:37:32.949 --> 00:37:34.730
is just sad. Like, I can't imagine spending my
00:37:34.730 --> 00:37:37.809
life doing this all the time. And also realizing
00:37:37.809 --> 00:37:39.590
that there is another path here. You hit the
00:37:39.590 --> 00:37:41.650
nail on the head, like New York is full of capitalism.
00:37:41.789 --> 00:37:44.150
Like that is the goal. First, last and only thing
00:37:44.150 --> 00:37:46.010
and experiencing the fact that that's not the
00:37:46.010 --> 00:37:48.530
priority in other places and that there are other
00:37:48.530 --> 00:37:51.309
ways to live was just eye opening. And I was
00:37:51.309 --> 00:37:53.110
like, yeah, I choose that. I choose that. But
00:37:53.110 --> 00:37:54.929
it's hard because it goes against the grain of
00:37:54.929 --> 00:37:56.550
where I am. And I'm like, I want to go here.
00:37:56.650 --> 00:37:58.869
And my friends are like, no, stay. I'm like,
00:37:58.889 --> 00:38:01.769
why? I want to go there. I know. Despite having
00:38:01.769 --> 00:38:05.230
all this great experience, but it took courage.
00:38:05.949 --> 00:38:08.230
Yeah, it's really hard. Especially when certain
00:38:08.230 --> 00:38:10.110
people you look to for support are telling you
00:38:10.110 --> 00:38:13.309
not to do it. And especially everyone is saying,
00:38:13.429 --> 00:38:16.000
don't do this and don't do that. But I have to
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:17.800
really look at it like, you know what, me traveling
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:20.039
does not mean I'm a good person. The lens of
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:22.099
like, I'm not hurting anybody. It's not like
00:38:22.099 --> 00:38:24.559
I'm on the streets doing drugs or stealing or
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:26.420
lying. Like, this is just an adventure I want
00:38:26.420 --> 00:38:28.960
to go on. Kind of looking at it through the moral
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:30.860
lens of like, what's good or bad about it? I'm
00:38:30.860 --> 00:38:32.179
like, you know what, I don't have this family
00:38:32.179 --> 00:38:33.599
I need to stay and support. It's not like I'm
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:36.219
leaving anybody. I just want to experience the
00:38:36.219 --> 00:38:37.800
world. And I don't think that's an inherently
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.420
bad thing. And I'm going to embrace that opinion,
00:38:40.460 --> 00:38:42.940
even though it's against everybody else's. And
00:38:42.940 --> 00:38:44.820
it doesn't mean I need to give up on relationships
00:38:44.820 --> 00:38:46.659
for people. I stay in touch with everybody when
00:38:46.659 --> 00:38:48.679
I travel, even though they don't see that. They're
00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:50.760
like, if you're not here, you don't have a relationship
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:52.639
with me. I'm like, that's just a very close -minded
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:55.219
way to look at it. We can call and text and whatever.
00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:58.699
You can come visit. And I just had to embrace
00:38:58.699 --> 00:39:00.679
it. But it's really lonely and hard at first
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:03.000
because you don't know. Until I met other people,
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:04.900
I didn't know that wasn't the crazy thing to
00:39:04.900 --> 00:39:07.000
do. Whereas I met other travelers, they're like,
00:39:07.059 --> 00:39:08.539
yeah, this is normal. I do this all the time.
00:39:08.619 --> 00:39:09.960
My family's used to it. I see them when I do.
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:12.130
And it's great. I'm like, wow. And they're okay
00:39:12.130 --> 00:39:13.989
with that. And other people are. And just that
00:39:13.989 --> 00:39:16.170
acceptance. And I really had, that's when I had
00:39:16.170 --> 00:39:17.789
to learn how to really accept my own opinion
00:39:17.789 --> 00:39:20.349
and my own self first. And so I find even when
00:39:20.349 --> 00:39:21.969
I have a big decision to make now, like, yes,
00:39:21.989 --> 00:39:23.670
I'll do research, but I'm going to just trust
00:39:23.670 --> 00:39:26.550
what feels great for me and how that works. And
00:39:26.550 --> 00:39:29.150
it's usually worked out great. Wow. And that's
00:39:29.150 --> 00:39:32.289
what I find amazing because you make it sound
00:39:32.289 --> 00:39:35.070
easy. But yeah, you know, like on the other hand.
00:39:35.070 --> 00:39:38.010
Definitely wasn't easy. Yeah, it doesn't come
00:39:38.010 --> 00:39:40.489
across that way, but it's not because of this
00:39:40.489 --> 00:39:42.969
conversation. Yeah, you came from New York City
00:39:42.969 --> 00:39:45.309
and people's mentality would be very different.
00:39:45.429 --> 00:39:48.989
It's very materialized and all that. And to actually
00:39:48.989 --> 00:39:51.269
decide that, you know, I'm just going to follow
00:39:51.269 --> 00:39:54.210
my calling is almost... Social calling, I didn't
00:39:54.210 --> 00:39:56.230
go to school for. I didn't have any interest
00:39:56.230 --> 00:39:58.969
in until after college and after being in a corporate
00:39:58.969 --> 00:40:01.449
job. Then I was like, people were like, you can't
00:40:01.449 --> 00:40:03.269
do that. You can't make a living. Like you're
00:40:03.269 --> 00:40:05.809
wasting your life. How selfish of you. I was
00:40:05.809 --> 00:40:09.090
like shredded to bits by people and that's really
00:40:09.090 --> 00:40:11.130
hard and it was really devastating to hear that
00:40:11.130 --> 00:40:12.969
from people you love and trust but it's also
00:40:12.969 --> 00:40:16.090
I just like it became so loud that I couldn't
00:40:16.090 --> 00:40:18.130
ignore it where it's like and there was just
00:40:18.130 --> 00:40:20.949
no way for me to not do it because I was like
00:40:20.949 --> 00:40:23.789
the alternative is to stay miserable and to stay
00:40:23.789 --> 00:40:25.690
in a place where I don't feel like I'm growing
00:40:25.690 --> 00:40:28.349
I don't feel like I could ever enjoy it and I
00:40:28.349 --> 00:40:30.789
knew like either I just go against the grain
00:40:30.789 --> 00:40:33.500
and I kind of get out of the box a little and
00:40:33.500 --> 00:40:35.400
do what feels good for me in a way where nobody
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:37.739
agrees. Nobody thinks it's a good idea and risk
00:40:37.739 --> 00:40:40.059
it. And what I risked wasn't like a seemingly
00:40:40.059 --> 00:40:42.679
big risk. Like my risks were having a yoga retreat
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.079
in India. My risks were living in New Zealand
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:47.320
for a year. Like these aren't crazy things and
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:49.000
these aren't, and I really had to like transform
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:51.199
that mindset and the limiting beliefs of like,
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.699
this isn't. in a way abnormal this isn't like
00:40:54.699 --> 00:40:57.000
a horror that you're impending on others like
00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:59.260
you're a good person you just want to do something
00:40:59.260 --> 00:41:00.880
a little different and to accept the fact that
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:03.980
that's what it is and to try anyway and you really
00:41:03.980 --> 00:41:06.539
learn like there is so much abundance that comes
00:41:06.539 --> 00:41:09.239
from that when you just believe in yourself even
00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:10.719
though there were failures along the way and
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:12.960
some pretty big ones that were hard I was like,
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:16.380
I, I tried, I tried, I learned, I met some really
00:41:16.380 --> 00:41:19.739
great people. I got to be there. And even if
00:41:19.739 --> 00:41:22.679
it was imperfect, I had that experience. So just
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:24.699
like staying open in that sense, but that's hard
00:41:24.699 --> 00:41:26.260
earned wisdom. Like there was a lot of tears,
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:28.880
a lot of crying, a lot of yelling, but everyone
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:30.539
has kind of discovered that for themselves. And
00:41:30.539 --> 00:41:33.500
I can't, the records will never bypass that emotional
00:41:33.500 --> 00:41:35.579
journey because everyone needs to feel it, but
00:41:35.579 --> 00:41:37.360
they will always encourage you to be like your
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.059
most authentic self where there's nothing limiting
00:41:40.059 --> 00:41:42.300
you, but you. And you're listening to those around
00:41:42.300 --> 00:41:44.079
you that don't agree with you. And that's why
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:48.000
I felt there's really courage because you could
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:49.980
have just stayed there and not doing anything.
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:53.420
But you decided you are going to listen to that
00:41:53.420 --> 00:41:56.360
voice and also your feelings and really decided
00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:59.579
to explore the world because you could have been
00:41:59.579 --> 00:42:03.210
so easy to stay. saying you're saying i can feel
00:42:03.210 --> 00:42:06.309
there's something yeah it's also especially since
00:42:06.309 --> 00:42:08.769
i feel like i'm this meant to be a spiritual
00:42:08.769 --> 00:42:10.750
leader for others and when i'm saying it got
00:42:10.750 --> 00:42:12.690
so loud i couldn't ignore it i'm saying like
00:42:12.690 --> 00:42:14.670
i do believe there are certain life situations
00:42:14.670 --> 00:42:16.989
you are meant to feel and experience that are
00:42:16.989 --> 00:42:18.530
outside of your control like when i left new
00:42:18.530 --> 00:42:20.909
york i had to leave i was like go for my job
00:42:20.909 --> 00:42:24.650
i couldn't afford red and I was so burnt out
00:42:24.650 --> 00:42:26.389
I was like I just have to be here and I was also
00:42:26.389 --> 00:42:29.289
having some very intense dreams saying like leave
00:42:29.289 --> 00:42:31.429
just leave go go to Hawaii seriously specifically
00:42:31.429 --> 00:42:34.750
Hawaii like go to the beach and leave and basically
00:42:34.750 --> 00:42:37.090
there was getting so many crazy physical signs
00:42:37.090 --> 00:42:39.909
like hearing Hawaii music hearing like getting
00:42:39.909 --> 00:42:43.190
visuals and I just like I couldn't see another
00:42:43.190 --> 00:42:45.690
path for myself and that's when I think I just
00:42:45.690 --> 00:42:48.010
I had to do it and so before I went to Hawaii
00:42:48.010 --> 00:42:50.480
I did the Reiki program Where I became a master,
00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:52.639
it was like a week -long program where it was
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:54.780
really intense lessons and learning. And it just
00:42:54.780 --> 00:42:56.619
completely changed my life because I feel like
00:42:56.619 --> 00:42:58.480
I was meant to be brought up spiritually that
00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:01.219
next level so I can share for others. And once
00:43:01.219 --> 00:43:03.539
I did that training, I really just saw my own
00:43:03.539 --> 00:43:06.519
energetic body. And I saw myself in terms of
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:08.320
how I interact with the world. And then I started
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:10.659
reading for my friends and family and really
00:43:10.659 --> 00:43:13.440
understanding this energy. And I feel like I
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:15.679
just… Even though I was resistant and even though
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:17.760
maybe I was really hesitant to even book this
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:19.639
training, the world just cleared the way. It's
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:21.139
like, no, you have to go. You have no choice.
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:23.639
It got too loud. And that's why I think when
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:25.980
I say certain places you're meant to go to or
00:43:25.980 --> 00:43:28.039
not go to, like Bali, it was like, get out of
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:29.920
here. And it kept making it louder and louder
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:33.039
until I couldn't ignore it. new york did the
00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:35.119
same as like get out of fear made it louder and
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:37.500
louder go do something else like where your life
00:43:37.500 --> 00:43:40.119
path is supposed to be and so like yes the records
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:41.739
will lead you to where you want to be and they
00:43:41.739 --> 00:43:44.059
really that's kind of how i got it started into
00:43:44.059 --> 00:43:46.380
reading records after reiki i really dived into
00:43:46.380 --> 00:43:48.179
that or it's like there's things you like signed
00:43:48.179 --> 00:43:50.019
up for like your soul's contract like you came
00:43:50.019 --> 00:43:52.179
here meaning to experience certain things and
00:43:52.179 --> 00:43:53.880
show up a certain way for other people because
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:56.239
that's their experience too and like you can't
00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:57.940
fail or miss it like you don't miss the boat
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in that sense and so It gets louder and louder
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:01.460
until you can't ignore it, until you're just
00:44:01.460 --> 00:44:04.380
shoved through the door. And then from there,
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:06.659
you can take those risks where it's like, yes,
00:44:06.739 --> 00:44:08.039
there's some things that are out of control and
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:10.239
you go and you keep going. You choose to keep
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going. Like I could have gone back to New York
00:44:12.059 --> 00:44:14.039
and got another job. But instead I was like,
00:44:14.099 --> 00:44:15.920
I'm going to just keep going. I'm already here.
00:44:16.219 --> 00:44:20.039
Wow. And it's crazy. There's a balance. Do you
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:22.639
know one thing you did early on in your yoga
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.599
class I really liked? When you start with the
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:28.699
yoga classes, you used to read a poem or something
00:44:28.699 --> 00:44:32.079
just to kickstart the classes. And I really like
00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:34.679
it because every time when you are reading it,
00:44:34.739 --> 00:44:37.280
it kind of opened up my eyes. And also there
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:40.539
was something that I was struggling a lot with
00:44:40.539 --> 00:44:43.260
a lot of things in my life at the time. You know,
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:45.739
like what you say, something became so loud that
00:44:45.739 --> 00:44:49.000
I can't ignore anymore. And so that's why I started.
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:52.360
doing yoga and i didn't really share with people
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:55.219
i was having a lot of issues and left my job
00:44:55.219 --> 00:44:58.460
and i also left my partner with 22 years and
00:44:58.460 --> 00:45:01.300
i literally walk away from life that i created
00:45:01.300 --> 00:45:03.860
and i thought i should keep living big change
00:45:03.860 --> 00:45:07.059
yeah Because of what you just say, you know,
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:10.079
it almost pushed me to a way and say, you need
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:12.119
to stop lying to yourself. You need to find another
00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:14.980
way to really live authentically who you are.
00:45:15.179 --> 00:45:17.679
But I just want to acknowledge, even with that
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:20.159
opening of the reading, it was so soothing because
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.179
I was going through so much that I can't even
00:45:22.179 --> 00:45:25.579
verbalize it to anyone. or let people understand
00:45:25.579 --> 00:45:28.820
how crazy my world has become. I was so isolated.
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:31.099
There's no one can talk to me. I feel like my
00:45:31.099 --> 00:45:34.019
world has been stripped away completely. And
00:45:34.019 --> 00:45:37.039
then there's just this very small circle of people
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:39.400
that who can get close to me or I can get close
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:42.599
to. Golden Yogi was one of them. And so having
00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:45.380
someone like you come in and even just start
00:45:45.380 --> 00:45:49.199
with the reading always resonates with me. It's
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:51.420
almost like someone was talking to my soul. I
00:45:51.420 --> 00:45:54.239
feel so comforted just being, I'm going to cry
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:58.659
just being, you know, because it was really hard
00:45:58.659 --> 00:46:01.380
and I have no one to talk to. So I just want
00:46:01.380 --> 00:46:03.780
to say thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you
00:46:03.780 --> 00:46:05.519
for sharing that, Ivan. I know you went through
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:08.159
a tough year and I think you said it so well,
00:46:08.260 --> 00:46:10.340
like when you are getting shoved to the door.
00:46:10.829 --> 00:46:13.269
When I first met you, I would have had no idea
00:46:13.269 --> 00:46:15.690
about any of your troubles and what you were
00:46:15.690 --> 00:46:17.650
going through. You were the happiest, happiest
00:46:17.650 --> 00:46:20.510
guy. So social. When you say you were isolated,
00:46:20.650 --> 00:46:22.789
it's so surprising to me. But that means you
00:46:22.789 --> 00:46:24.389
just don't know what someone's going through.
00:46:24.449 --> 00:46:26.590
And when you were shoved through that door, it
00:46:26.590 --> 00:46:28.449
seems like, from my perspective, you found yourself
00:46:28.449 --> 00:46:30.510
and your voice. Because not only did you meet
00:46:30.510 --> 00:46:32.469
all these great new people, you talked to them
00:46:32.469 --> 00:46:34.449
and see them outside of class, but you really
00:46:34.449 --> 00:46:36.989
started this podcast. And you really started
00:46:36.989 --> 00:46:39.389
really helping others share their voices, too,
00:46:39.510 --> 00:46:41.829
and finding yours and listening to yours. And
00:46:41.829 --> 00:46:43.309
so that's like a really beautiful part of the
00:46:43.309 --> 00:46:45.150
journey where it's like sometimes you can't get
00:46:45.150 --> 00:46:47.030
there on your own. Those external messages, like
00:46:47.030 --> 00:46:48.789
I was saying, that come to you through like your
00:46:48.789 --> 00:46:51.869
teachers or somebody on the street or the events
00:46:51.869 --> 00:46:53.369
that keep happening until they're louder and
00:46:53.369 --> 00:46:55.289
louder. And it's just like how amazing it is
00:46:55.289 --> 00:46:57.750
now that where you are. you had to go through
00:46:57.750 --> 00:46:59.889
all that even though it was hard and lonely and
00:46:59.889 --> 00:47:02.090
horrible it is inevitable this is part of your
00:47:02.090 --> 00:47:04.070
life path for sure like you being here doing
00:47:04.070 --> 00:47:06.309
these podcasts so it's like it's just a really
00:47:06.309 --> 00:47:08.090
beautiful journey and i'm so glad i got to see
00:47:08.090 --> 00:47:09.349
it i've been like i can't believe we're here
00:47:09.349 --> 00:47:11.429
doing a podcast with you where it's like a year
00:47:11.429 --> 00:47:13.349
ago it's just you were just a student having
00:47:13.349 --> 00:47:15.949
a good time and i love saying words and it seems
00:47:15.949 --> 00:47:17.449
like words really resonate with you but you never
00:47:17.449 --> 00:47:18.730
know what's going to resonate with somebody whether
00:47:18.730 --> 00:47:21.289
it's a specific sequence or the music or what
00:47:21.289 --> 00:47:23.789
you say or how you touch them with adjustments
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:26.780
It's like, but you don't, it's not up to you.
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It's like that message is for them and whatever
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they take from it. I'm just so glad you got something
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:32.559
from it. And you were just the best student.
00:47:32.659 --> 00:47:34.820
I miss having you in my class. I miss having
00:47:34.820 --> 00:47:37.320
you as well. And I have one more question to
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ask you. If you could have go back to the younger
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:42.420
self, whatever younger self that might be, and
00:47:42.420 --> 00:47:45.539
what would you say to the younger Casey? So many
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things, mostly just keep going. Honestly, I don't
00:47:49.059 --> 00:47:50.940
think I would have her change anything of what
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I did because where those choices led me here.
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And there was nothing inherently wrong with what
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I did or how I got here. I would just say, like,
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don't give up. Keep going. Just keep trying.
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Keep failing. going again and have more fun with
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:05.420
it. The thing I could say is like, can you just
00:48:05.420 --> 00:48:07.760
relax, have some fun? It's always going to work
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:09.679
out for you. Always, always works out. Even if
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:12.260
it's the craziest way, just relax, but also have
00:48:12.260 --> 00:48:14.420
some fun. Absolutely. And I also want to say
00:48:14.420 --> 00:48:17.000
that I really hope you get to teach yoga again
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:19.619
because I think you have such a gift. Yeah. And
00:48:19.619 --> 00:48:22.280
you have such a gift, really, because I experienced
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.159
it and I experienced all the instructors in the
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:27.780
classes, you know, and there's a few that is
00:48:27.780 --> 00:48:30.400
like my favorite. Yeah. And you're one of them.
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And I really, I mean, because I don't know if
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anyone has given you this feedback at all. You're
00:48:35.500 --> 00:48:37.820
always able to help people to feel grounded in
00:48:37.820 --> 00:48:42.079
the end of the class. It's more than just yoga
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class. You can feel it. There's another level
00:48:44.340 --> 00:48:46.679
of energies that you presented to the class.
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And then this is very healing as well. So I really
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:52.260
hope that you will carry on and being you and
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share your gift with the world. And I hope there's
00:48:54.780 --> 00:48:57.039
a lot more people get to enjoy your gift as well.
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I haven't heard that feedback before. So thank
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you. That means a lot. I love teaching and I
00:49:02.670 --> 00:49:04.150
will be teaching again. It's just a matter of
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where. Yeah, I feel the same way. I feel like
00:49:06.809 --> 00:49:08.969
we're just getting started. You and me both are
00:49:08.969 --> 00:49:11.110
just getting started on this crazy journey. And
00:49:11.110 --> 00:49:12.909
it feels like even though we're like so far in
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it and through it, it's just like there's still
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so much like new heights we can go to for both
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of us. Thank you.
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Welcome. I really appreciate your time. And this
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one is going to be slightly different. because
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you are my second guest from America. And I'm
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very excited to our conversation. So I'm just
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going to let you introduce yourself. Yeah, thank
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you for having me, Ivan. We've been trying to
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do this for a few months now and my schedule
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has just been so busy. So I appreciate you being
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flexible and go with the flow about it. I really
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wanted to come here to the space with a pace
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of like abundance and ease versus like stress.
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So I was like really happy that I was feeling
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that lately. You've been on my mind. So I was
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like, we got to talk to Ivan. My name is Katie
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Sturvins. I am a 500 -hour yoga teacher, Akashic
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record reader, Reiki master. I'm from New York,
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the USA. I met Ivan through teaching at the Golden
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Yogi Studio in New Zealand. I have been reading
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the records for like three or four years now
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professionally. It all kind of started when I
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got into yoga itself. Not that yoga is a spiritual
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practice, though it really can be. I really got
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into the movement and the studio I was going
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to in Long Island had this free energy 20 minute
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healing with a local guy who was just trying
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to generate some business. And so like last minute
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randomly, I was like, I don't know what this
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is, but this is cool. It's free. Why not? I just
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like the yoga and aspect of it. And so I went
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to a session and it was like mind blowing, changed
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my life. He completely saw me. He read my energy.
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We've completely. present in the moment he's
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like i could just see there's just so much not
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to say that there wasn't already but potential
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and just a yearning for more and achieving that
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through diving deeper into these spaces so it
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kind of tumbled from there into this journey
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of spirituality and yoga and becoming a teacher
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myself so from there i really Got more into learning
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about different practices, not only the physical
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stuff of yoga, but different other elements of
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like spirituality. I really got into meditation
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and sound healing and breath work and really
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grounding into the body. And it wasn't until
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I had my own reading read by somebody in Brooklyn
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just during COVID that I was like, wow, game
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changer. And it, the reading itself with that
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person. It completely just changed how I viewed
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my life because I felt very, during COVID, very
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stuck, very uninspired. I just craved so much
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more than what I was doing and what I had. I
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don't know if so many other people did during
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COVID. And I was like, let me just see what else
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is out there. I was really just curious about
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like kind of a psychic world, spirituality. And
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then we had the reading and she's like, I really
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see you developing into your leadership, leading
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yoga classes, getting your teaching certification,
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but abroad somewhere, really focusing on meditation
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and just becoming this like full person. And
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I was like, wow, I never imagined that for myself
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ever becoming a teacher or leading a class or
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talking to people like that. I was like, that's
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not me. I worked in fashion. But then later on
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that year, I found a beautiful program in Peru
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and I got my 200 hour certificate and I was there
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for the month of December and I just had the
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best time. And from there, I know it just keeps
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going and going. I started teaching in New York
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City, was there for about two years and I became
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incredibly burnt out from that. I was working
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full time and then teaching a bunch of classes
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and I was also teaching hot yoga. I don't know
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if you've ever tried hot yoga. No. It's so intense.
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The room is about like 96 degrees. Teaching three
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or four classes a day. It just became incredibly
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burnt out, like draining for me versus like thriving.
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And I also was uninspired in my job. I was like,
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I don't want to do this anymore. And then from
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there, I just craved more and more adventure,
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more excitement. So I quit my job. I still taught
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yoga, but then I moved to Hawaii for a few months.
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And I was like, wow, let's just like be in nature,
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get out of the city, like go surfing, go hiking.
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And it was exactly what I needed to really like.
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recover from being burnt out and still keeping
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on with teaching. And during this time, I also
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discovered I took a Reiki course as well. And
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I really opened up that door into spirituality.
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And for those who don't know, Reiki is energy
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healing. It is chakras aligned in the body. It
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is connecting mind, body, soul, but on a more
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spiritual, energetic feeling level. And so I
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became a Reiki master through that. And I, from
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there, got another reading. Sometimes when you
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get these Akashic record readings, it's more
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about getting direction. And that's how it was
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for me. Other people get different things from
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it. But for me, I was like, where can I go next?
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How do I take this all to the next level? And
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getting another reading showed me that maybe
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I do readings. Maybe I keep showing up in spaces
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as a healer, as a leader, as a guide for other
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people. And it really kind of like snowballed
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from there. To be honest, you are a great yoga
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teacher. I mean, I really love your yoga classes,
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not just because of the movement that you put
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together, but... you always have a way to bring
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the energy back in the room and then make me
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feel really grounded. Because each yoga instructors
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come with different style and all that. And I
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love them all. But you can always feel there
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is a subtleness amongst all the yoga teacher
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in the end of the classes, how they make you
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feel, what kind of energy that bring it to the
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room. And you were just incredible. I mean, I'm
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50 something. So to me, how can this? Young lady
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able to do that, especially your slow flows in
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the afternoon class or morning. And people love
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it. You start building up groups of people, but
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then because the classes change, that was incredible.
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People were worried about how good it felt. classes.
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Thank you. You also move really great for somebody
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your age. And that just shows you how important
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yoga is in taking care of your body. Like he
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is so flexible, so bendy. He always tries all
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the advanced moves. It is incredible to see.
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And it's delightful to teach somebody just so
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interested in pushing themselves no matter their
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age and whether they're more mobile or not. It's
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just awesome to see people who like want to be
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there. And I really love that class. I love the
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people who showed up every week. They were so
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sweet. And I just got excited to teach it because
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it felt it felt really good all around. So I'm
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glad that really emulated through. By the way,
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so Before you were a yoga instructor, you worked
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in the fashion industry. Yeah, so it's such a
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long journey. I know I was kind of starting getting
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into it. I went to school for fashion merchandising
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and retail marketing. I was always interested
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in fashion growing up, the fashion magazines.
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I lived near New York City, so I would go to
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Fashion Week all the time. And I really loved
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that kind of fast -paced environment. But when
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I got out of school and I got like a corporate
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job, I realized the glitz and glam you see on
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TV only really happens for a very small section
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that's really difficult to get into. And the
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degree I got, it was really hard for me to correlate.
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So I worked at like product development, which
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essentially was like a digital paper pusher.
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And there was no creative side to it. very minimal
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social interactions. I did not enjoy it. I was
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like, what is this? I hate this. Like, I felt
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so uninspired every day. I was like, I was trudging
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to work at a job that just didn't feel like would
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help me grow in any aspect that I wanted to.
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And I really realized that I am just not meant
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to sit in an office all day. I really love moving
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my body. I really love connecting with people
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one -on -one, connecting with yoga students,
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connecting with people who come for Reiki. And
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to me, that just feels more fulfilling. And I
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know you've had a bunch of sessions done and
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you've had such a wide experience too. And that's
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really awesome. Yeah. However, having said that,
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then what drew you into yoga in the first place?
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I mean, how that then kind of started? Yeah,
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it really started after college when I came back
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and kind of got that first full -time job. And
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I've tried yoga in college, like free classes,
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but I wasn't that into it. But then my friend
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got me into Bikram yoga, the hot yoga, ironically,
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and that's a really hot class. It's like 104
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degrees. And there's like a set sequence. And
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it was like the craziest thing in my life. But
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I would leave that class feeling so good after,
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you know, you die during that. And I was like,
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this is just great. So I started to get more
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into yoga. And then I started to do like regular
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classes in not heated rooms. And I realized I'm
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not flexible. Everything hurts. I remember this.
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It was embarrassing. One class I went to, it
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was like a beginner class. And the lady was like,
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oh, go into pigeon. I'm like. what's a pigeon?
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Why are there birds here? And she was like, you
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should come to our beginner class. Like we're
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going to take it so slow. And I was like, I don't
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want to do that. Don't single me out. But then
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I did it. And I was like, just learning to practice
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and learning how it felt in the body. And then
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once you sit in pigeon, if those who don't know,
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it's like a really deep hip opener pose. And
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hips tend to hold a lot of emotions and stress.
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And when you tend to stretch a position for so
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long, your body starts to release. the myofascia
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and you relax and those emotions spread and i
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remember the first time i was in pigeon i was
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like crying my eyes out i'm like what is happening
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i'm in a yoga class crying like what and that
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was before i had any like idea of mind body connection
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or how your body keeps the score how your body
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just relates to all of this and i was like this
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is crazy to me and so it really just kind of
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developed from there mostly from a curiosity
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of like It is a lot on the body, but what am
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I holding on to? Like, what else is, like, there
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that I'm not seeing? Like, more of a self -reflection
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and growth. And it's incredible how it goes.
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Are you always that spiritual, Katie? Or that
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kind of, like, only slowly grow from your yoga
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learning? It's kind of like how I said in the
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beginning. It really snowballed from something
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so small. Especially my time after college, getting
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that first job. Where I lived, I lived with somebody
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who considered themselves, like, a Wiccan into
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spirituality. And they practiced, like, kind
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of earth magic in a way where they would make
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altars and crystals and take care of nature.
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And I was like, what is any of this? But this
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looks cool. I was just interested in all that
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stuff for my love of Halloween as a child. And
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from there, it really just like snowballed altogether.
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The more I got into yoga, the more I got into
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not only thinking and feeling good thoughts,
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but also working on that and exploring the spiritual
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side of things. I grew up like a traditional
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American Christian where I kind of just went
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to church during the holidays, but never really
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taking it as a faith, more as an obligation.
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And when it really started to turn into almost
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my own personal faith was looking really deeply
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inward. And that's the journey I've been on,
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like looking deep inward, seeing that internal
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faith in God is within you or God and finding
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that throughout others. came in tandem with yoga.
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It all came together. Like I would do yoga and
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then I would go to therapy and then I would have
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this big revelation and then I would work through
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my body and then I would do Reiki and then I
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would heal myself and then I would have another
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revelation. It just like snowballed again and
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again. Wow. And by the way, I just suddenly remember
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you also been to India, isn't it? Yes. Okay.
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So I got my 300 hour in India. Have you been
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there? I don't know if you've had. No, no, I
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never. But I remember we have a conversation
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because you have a t -shirt. Yeah, good memory.
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Yeah, I went to India two to three years ago
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to get my 300 hour to develop more into it. specific
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kind of teacher. And I was in Kerala, the south
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of India, which is known for its spiritual practices
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and beautiful temples. And it's very hot and
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humid. So basically, I was doing hot yoga there
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all the time. And I just felt such magic there.
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And I stayed at an Ayurveda center. So I've never
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stayed at a place like this where everything
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was centered around the treatments you were getting
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and the doshas and whatever your body type is.
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And so you would eat certain foods, you would
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wake up a certain way, you would go to a pool
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at a certain time. what was cooling and heating
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and living at the center while also doing like
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this really insane yoga was very very intense
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and also really magical and the teachers I had
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they spoke Sanskrit so we got to hear the written
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word spoken we got to do a lot of chanting a
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lot of embodiment and work of course on the yoga
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and the physicality all that teaching like bigger
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classes more information focus versus sequences
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like say if I was doing an event or doing like
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a longer talk and whatnot and really just like
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understanding the information and the origins
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of yoga and the shirt you saw was actually from
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an ashram i stayed at little light later which
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is basically another yoga center where they have
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gurus and spiritual teachers and a very strict
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schedule too and just like kind of surrendering
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to certain knowledge in certain ways it's like
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kind of opens you into a whole new world if you're
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really looking for Honestly, any internal depth,
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internal spirituality, whether it be physical
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or mental, and you maybe don't want to do therapy,
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this is a really great avenue where you can do,
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usually you do yoga twice a day. You wake up
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at six, you do a meditation, you do the yoga,
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then you do a lecture or class. It's like a schedule,
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but a lot of it's also part of like the balance
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in life and giving back. So when you're there,
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you do a lot of community service. cleaning of
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the dorms, you do cooking, you do cleaning of
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kitchens, and really just community -based, good
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feelings, vibes. And it was just a really beautiful
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experience. And I always try to emulate the things
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I learn. One thing I was always taught is you
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can only teach what you know, and you can only
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share the information you have and understanding
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how far that goes. And I sometimes don't even
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know how much I don't know until I go to somebody
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else's class. There was a teacher in New Zealand
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who was so great with her cues and the music.
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It was so aligned. I was like, I've never had
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an experience like this. It felt spiritual in
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a way, even though she didn't talk about spirituality.
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It was a very physical class, but the way it
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was emulated, it was like, wow, crazy. And so
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I always try to just dive deeper into my own
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practice so I can share that with others, you
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know? What made you decide to go to India and
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do the 300? So what pushed you into India? When
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I was in Hawaii, I stayed with a woman named
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Tan Mayo, who is this beautiful French woman.
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It was in her 60s. And she lived in India in
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her early 20s, just on the streets, just experiencing
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this whole spiritual thing and passage. And she
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leads these retreats every year to India. And
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I really enjoyed her company. I loved her classes.
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And she was going in February. And she was like,
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you want to come? Bring some friends. We'll do
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a whole retreat. And I'll show you around. And
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we'll have a good time. And I was like, yeah.
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let's let's go like it's always something i do
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believe like you were called to certain places
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or you meant to experience certain things and
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that's something with the records i really discovered
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with myself and others it's like if you feel
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like a thought that keeps popping in your head
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or somebody keeps asking you the same question
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or different people are asking the same question
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or like oh why don't you go do this why don't
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you do this and it's the same answer like you're
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being called kind of to try that or test it forward
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and that was india for me And I wanted to deepen
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my practice anyway. I was like, if I'm going
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to be in India, I got to do an India yoga retreat,
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like the origin. So it worked out. Honestly,
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weirdly how well to the T, like the first retreat
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was 10 days with Tamayo. And then the day after
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was this 300 hour course that just started for
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three weeks. And I was like, that's just too
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good to stop. And I just went there and had that
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experience. It just kind of came out and I was
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like, do I do this? Do I go? It's a big commitment,
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yada, yada. But I was like in between kind of
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gigs and still floating around. So I was like,
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I'll just go. It's fine. And it was. Yeah. And
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then what leads you to New Zealand? That's such
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a long story. I'll tell you the one. It's so
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crazy how it's interconnected. Not a good reason,
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let me tell you, New Zealand. It wasn't great.
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So I was continuing on the yoga journey. I met
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someone from the yoga training who I wanted to
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run a retreat with. So we were planning for next
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year, the year after in February to do our own
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yoga retreat, not a training, just like a 10
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day, bring people, like have the experience we
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had. And so I was planning on that anyway. And
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then I was starting to get into teacher trainings.
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I wanted to teach teacher trainings. The way
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the work schedule worked out was when I came
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back from India to New York, I was kind of planning
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all that, sorting out, still teaching locally.
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And then I got an opportunity to teach in Bali
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for a month as a teacher, assistant teacher trainer
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to like. learn the ropes, do some teaching, really
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understand like what a teacher trainer on the
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other side looks like. But when I was in Bali,
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I got so sick. Reoccurring Bali belly. I was
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in a motorcycle accident. I just like had the
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worst time. I got hit with a massive fine on
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my way out from having the wrong visa, which
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was my own fault, but they're very strict with
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it. And I was like so done. So after the Bali
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ended, that was December. I had a few weeks home
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between Bali and India where it's like, oh, I
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could go back to New York. Or I can stay on this
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side of the world until India. And I was like,
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I don't want to do like 24 hours each way. It's
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crazy. But then I was like, I can't stay in Bali.
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I'm going to die. It's killing me. So I was like,
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let me go somewhere that's kind of a Western
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culture, cleaner water and hygiene practices.
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And maybe that will kill me. And I've never been
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to New Zealand. I did Australia already. And
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I was like, let me just go. And I just booked
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it randomly. I was like, do I just go? Do I do
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it? Do I do it? My friends were like, yeah, just
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you have the time. And luckily the money at the
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time I was saving up a lot. And I just went and
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it was like angels opening the door. I could
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not explain to you how good I felt. I was able
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to eat solid skin. I was able to like breathe
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fresh air. And it was January in New Zealand
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at the time. So it was summer and it was so not
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humid compared to what Bali was. Humid, rainy,
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wet. And then New Zealand was dry, beautiful,
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great, fresh water, air. Oh my God, I was in
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love. I really did the tours. I loved the locals.
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I loved it here. I was just enchanted. I wasn't
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planning on coming back, actually. But then I
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went to India, had the retreat. After that, I
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got sick again. I was like, God, these places
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are killing me. So then I just wasn't ready to
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go home. Truthfully, I was like, I don't want
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to go back to New York right now. I think I still
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I'm feeling called to travel. And so then I was
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like, let me just go back to New Zealand. So
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then I did the year long visa working holiday
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visa. And honestly, New Zealand, and this was
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so surprising to me finding this out, but New
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Zealand has such a great wellness community there.
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You guys have static dances. You have a bunch
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of outdoor festivals. You have a lot of studios.
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There's so much going on outdoors. That's why
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I really stayed for the year because I love all
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that. You have cacao ceremonies. You have places
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that sell cacao. And I've never met any place
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in the world, especially not in the United States,
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that does things like that. And it was the best
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experience of my life. I got to meet so many
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people. I had a festival. I got to go to weekly
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aesthetic dance classes on a Wednesday. I threw
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that. I had cacao every day. And I was in the
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city. I was in Auckland Centre, so I was still
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able to have a normal... normal as I say life
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but still really have this side of spirituality
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that I loved I don't know if you found that too
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yeah I did a few things with a friend the aesthetic
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dance as well and that was the first time I experienced
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it yeah so this is Like what you say, you know,
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it's so accessible. But on the other hand, you
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kind of have to go and discover it because it's
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not in your face all the time, which is great.
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And so you do have that freedom to choose. I
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know you've been to one of the festivals and
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that was done through volunteering and helping
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out. So I went to a few. The first festival I
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went to was New Zealand Spirit Fest. And that
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was like the last year they ever did it. So I
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was really lucky to go. And that's when I really
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kind of got into festivals. I didn't have a lot
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of money at this point. I was like, how do I
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go to a festival, enjoy it, and not have to pay
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all this money? And then my friend was like,
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you could just volunteer. I was like, what? So
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I did two festivals this year. I volunteered
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at two different ones. One was OM Festival. The
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other one was Dimension. I'd say if you're ever
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volunteering for a festival, volunteer either
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before or after because volunteering in festival,
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going to a festival just like isn't fun. It felt
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like work to me. And yeah, I just got like, you
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do have to find it, but also it's so easy to
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find. Like the static dance, I always look for
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those things where I live because that's something
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I really love and passionate about. But like,
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it's not always accessible. Like where I am in
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New York right now, there's nothing like that
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around here. Nothing, maybe a big EDM type event,
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but it's not like an ecstatic dance specifically,
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which is its own journey in itself. more spiritual
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and internal versus like drinking and dancing
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you know yeah you should create one i should
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have enough projects though ivan it's on my list
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i'll just maybe i should just go back to new
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zealand and just live it there but maybe i really
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like to talk to you more about the casual records
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that you know like because i think that i experienced
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as well through you When I have a reading from
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you, which was really amazing, especially the
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part where I never tell anyone this, like there's
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a part of me always felt like something to do
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with doctor. I can't even explain. I'm not a
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doctor, but I felt there's something that connect
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to me to be a doctor, but I'm not really wanting
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to be a doctor. It's never my dreams. And when
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you say my previous life, I was a doctor. And
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even though it wasn't what I wanted, but. I was
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probably forced to do it, but then I did it.
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And it made a lot of sense to me because I always
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have that feelings about being a doctor. I can't
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explain because it's not like I'm a doctor, you
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know, like, so that really stood out to me because
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I never tell anyone that because it's crazy,
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like, you're not a doctor. I didn't go to medical
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school. What's this feeling? It's so interesting
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to see other people's perspectives on the readings.
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And so I'll go quickly to what it is. So basically,
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the Akashic records themselves was something
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that was not invented, but almost kind of rediscovered
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in the mid 1800s. It's kind of derived when...
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And Chinese philosophy came to the U .S. and
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came to like the Western world. And so and Hinduism
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and Buddhism. So Akashic records, the word Akasha
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means is a Hindu word for it means ether or light
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or shining. It's usually the space above your
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head, like the outer world. And it's also in
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Ayurveda and yoga philosophies. You'll see this
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word a lot. And so how it is used now and how
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I use it, the Akashic records is essentially
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a spiritual library. Like each soul has a record
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of its imprint on. earth or not earth or whatever
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its journey is from beginning of its creation
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to where it is now and where it's going. And
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so the records is like a spiritual channeling
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that we go through during the session to like
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see past lives, see karmic recycling, see what
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comes up for you and where you could probably
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take that, where you want to go or what steps
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you could take in the future in this present
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life. And it's a really beautiful eye -opening
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experience. And so for you, the doctor, what
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happens is when you have a really strong past
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life and you have a really intense story that
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maybe you loved or just had a big impact on you,
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that echoes and stays with you through. your
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next life and so when you aren't a doctor in
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your next life but you're still doing things
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to help people and you're feeling called to like
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share stories and feeling called to heal people
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in certain ways even if it's not traditional
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medicine it like echoes through you from where
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you were in your past life and that's why when
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you have these thoughts of like oh i'm a doctor
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though maybe not this life like you're like that
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i'm not but you were and you always kind of will
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be in your head and that soul that knows not
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that you should be practicing medicine right
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now but like in your soul's purpose and so People
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sometimes have the thoughts of like, why am I
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drawn to a place or why does this keep coming
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up? Or like, why do I love dance so much? Or
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why, like, what is it? Like, it's not like I'm
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an extraordinary dancer, this and that, but like
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in your past lives, you could have been, or you
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were always interested in this line of work.
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And seeing that echo through your current life
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and where you want to go, it's really a beautiful
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thing. It's like, wow, this can just take us
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everywhere. And it's just incredible. It could
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be so healing. It could be so illuminating. And
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every reading I have is so different with everybody.
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They come to me with different reasons. they
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come to me they stay they whether they're looking
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for like why does this person keep popping up
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or this situation why don't i learn this lesson
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or why do i keep having these thoughts or these
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dreams and we just really could dive into like
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what's going on like with the records as well
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i also ask your spirit guys and angels to come
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along and anyone who it's not like a mediumship
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i don't speak to dead people but it's more about
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like internal reading with you And a lot of what
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I say I find people find is it's all like things
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they already know. It's reflective. It's not
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like new information to them because their soul
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is already aware of this. Sometimes it just needs
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to be illuminated by like a third party, you
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know? And also you did a Reiki healing for me.
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And at the time you identified some part of my
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body was having a blockage, which is true. I
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never tell people because there were a period
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of time where I have a lot of tightness on my
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chest. But when you read me with Reiki, What
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happened was there was a blockage just on my
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throat area, which I can really felt it. And
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then there was something that you say really
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resonate with me. You pointing out that I was.
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not having my boys hurt when I was younger. That's
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why there's like kind of like a poppages around
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my throat area. And again, I didn't tell anyone.
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I didn't tell you that, you know, I didn't know
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about that. It's something I can't like research
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beforehand. It's something you knew, only you.
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Yeah. So it's just quite incredible. Do you want
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to share a bit more if people don't know what
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to, yeah. The session I do is a little different.
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I incorporate Reiki first to really bring the
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chakras together, bring alignment into your body,
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kind of preparing it for that deeper reading.
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Not many people do this. You could do with a
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slight meditation. You can just kind of dive
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in. Or some people do more pre -set questions.
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But I really just like to tap into the energetic
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body first. Because like I said, the body does
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keep the score, especially energetically, whether
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it's from this life or a past life. And what
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we do is we go into those current blockages where
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you are physically right now in those chakra
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points. And we bring them up, open them, see
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what's going on, seeing if it's related to what's
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happening presently or the questions you might
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have. And nine times out of 10, it is. And it's
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things I just can't predict or even know beforehand
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or even think to ask you about that you might
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want to dive into. And it really brings this
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element of healing and lightness because once
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you bring the chakras into balance, you really
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tend to feel a sense of peace and openness. And
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so when you dive deeper into these questions,
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you're just open to not only hearing but receiving
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the answers. And there's so many times because
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I just use a channel. I just speak through people
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and I write it out for them. where it's like
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I don't even know what I'm saying and why I'm
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saying it like there are things I'm just like
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I don't know what this message is because it's
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not for me it's for the person I'm reading like
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there were things I said to you I'm just like
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I don't know why this is coming out like I don't
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know where it's coming from this is not what
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I know about you like I don't know you were a
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doctor like you were just Ivan from my class
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and I was like he just needs to hear it and it
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has to come out and it's that like hearing those
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things it really helped people not only know
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themselves better but feel better and also like
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tapping when people get reiki And Reiki itself
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is like something that could be done online or
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in person. It's just energy healing light transfer
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where it's like a relaxation technique in a way
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where even if you don't believe in the spirituality
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of it, you can become really relaxed and really
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open and just diving into those places that maybe
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need healing or opening up at places that are
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tense and tight. in a way where it's not a traditional
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massage it's really just an energetic thing and
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they could be so impactful because you're like
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this is already what i know is bothering me but
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i can't admit it or i can't name it or maybe
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i don't even know i can name it but i know where
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it is and it really just helps open that up for
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a deeper healing and a deeper session so this
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kind of like have a spiritual elements to it
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the yoga that kesha record and also the reiki
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so What is your next journey looks like? Yeah,
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through my personal life, I'm really trying to
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find where I can keep doing these sessions. So
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I do most of them online. Obviously, I record
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them and then I send them to the clients I have.
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But I'm really looking for a place to ground
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right now. So I'm not as into doing as many as
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I normally do. But the next step, I really want
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to find a place where I'm back to teaching. I
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haven't taught in a few months since I left New
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Zealand. I'm in like a bit of a transition period.
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So I want to get back to teaching, get back to
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doing these sessions, maybe some group sessions.
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kind of continuing in this field because it brings
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so much joy to other people and myself included
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just to like see people open up and to expand
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themselves into an avenue they never even thought
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or considered and it's there's so much i don't
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even know what's going to happen like there was
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so much from this journey last year to new zealand
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and from where i was like i don't know how this
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is going to end up i don't know where i'm going
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to go but i'm just going to follow my intuition
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my heart and see what happens so i think that's
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kind of where we're going now i was quite interested
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in how new zealand's really provide that space
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for you to embrace who you are with all the things
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that you enjoy doing and also having that community
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to support what you have learned as well. I hope
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you get a chance to come back to New Zealand
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again. I mean, that would be so good too. It
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really was. I felt like New Zealand was such
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a breath of fresh air for me because I never
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lived in a place that had such great work -life
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balance. And I think that was such a big point
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for me coming from New York where people are
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workaholics and they live for the weekend or
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they live to go drinking. I was just like, I
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wanted another way to live. I wanted to go out
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with people, but not always go drinking. I wanted
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:46.700
to go dancing, but not always go drinking. I
00:27:46.700 --> 00:27:49.640
wanted to go... on a hike and go for a swim like
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:52.000
outdoor things so that lifestyle really resonated
00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:55.160
with me without it being a whole town is kind
00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:57.799
of like this hippie culture but it's like people
00:27:57.799 --> 00:27:59.759
are just living their lives with nature in a
00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:01.779
way that feels very normal and very integrated
00:28:01.779 --> 00:28:05.059
and healthy and I was like that just felt awesome
00:28:05.059 --> 00:28:07.279
in a way I never experienced so and integrating
00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:10.200
what I love to do and having that so easily accessible
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:12.640
was like a new thing for me so i really i really
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:14.160
love new zealand i would love to come back we'll
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:16.119
see what happens it's such a magical place it's
00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:18.180
just far from home that's my only thing it's
00:28:18.180 --> 00:28:21.720
really literally the other side of the world
00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:24.900
how did this lie now going back to new york and
00:28:24.900 --> 00:28:28.880
back in a big city again yeah it was a really
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:31.500
hard shift It was something that I wanted to
00:28:31.500 --> 00:28:32.960
stay longer in New Zealand, but it didn't work
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:35.119
out. And I'm sure there's a reason. But I did
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:36.700
want to see my family. So it was really great
00:28:36.700 --> 00:28:38.819
to reconnect with everybody here and my friends.
00:28:39.460 --> 00:28:43.240
But I really just miss that lifestyle and culture
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:46.599
and ease and accessibility and the connection
00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:49.420
with nature. And I live on Long Island, so you
00:28:49.420 --> 00:28:50.859
need a car to get everywhere. And everywhere
00:28:50.859 --> 00:28:53.519
is like 20, 30 minutes away. Whereas in New Zealand,
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:55.680
everything's like 10 to 15 minutes driving or
00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:58.039
walking. So it just feels very close together.
00:28:58.730 --> 00:29:00.529
And here, everything just takes a lot more planning
00:29:00.529 --> 00:29:02.769
and time and the lifestyle is different. So it's
00:29:02.769 --> 00:29:04.430
just a hard adjustment, but I'm used to it at
00:29:04.430 --> 00:29:07.829
least. So it's been fine. I'm curious to say
00:29:07.829 --> 00:29:10.609
the younger Katie, who is she? I don't know how
00:29:10.609 --> 00:29:13.750
many New Yorker I like who are actually living
00:29:13.750 --> 00:29:17.109
in a big city, but innately, you're always drawn
00:29:17.109 --> 00:29:19.349
to something else, even though you didn't have
00:29:19.349 --> 00:29:21.289
a name for it. And that's why you're kind of
00:29:21.289 --> 00:29:23.490
stumbling at different things and then really
00:29:23.490 --> 00:29:26.259
find your true callings. Another aspect that
00:29:26.259 --> 00:29:28.539
I find really interesting is that every time
00:29:28.539 --> 00:29:30.799
when you meet someone, that person kind of guide
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:32.980
you to the next journey that you didn't expect.
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:36.819
But then it kind of leads you to your true calling.
00:29:37.019 --> 00:29:40.059
So who is Katie when she was younger? It was
00:29:40.059 --> 00:29:43.640
such a character. I feel like Katie is the one
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:45.799
who was reading the books and dreaming about
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:48.000
these trips and adventures, whereas adult Katie
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:50.660
is the one actually experiencing them and trying
00:29:50.660 --> 00:29:52.619
to go for it. And that's something that just...
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:55.279
It comes from having the bravery to follow your
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:58.039
dreams and luckily the accessibility and timestamps.
00:29:58.079 --> 00:29:59.579
Like luckily I don't have a house or family to
00:29:59.579 --> 00:30:03.299
support so I can go travel the world and do these
00:30:03.299 --> 00:30:04.799
things. But that's also the choice I've been
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:07.220
making. I really just prioritized wanting to
00:30:07.220 --> 00:30:09.119
see the world. And it's been such a strong calling
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:11.619
for me ever since I was younger. I loved traveling.
00:30:11.779 --> 00:30:13.660
I loved adventures. I loved meeting new people,
00:30:13.740 --> 00:30:16.130
experiencing new things. I just always had a
00:30:16.130 --> 00:30:19.450
curiosity for stories and fantasy and all these
00:30:19.450 --> 00:30:21.029
worlds. Like when I was in New Zealand, I saw
00:30:21.029 --> 00:30:24.150
the Hobbiton set for Lord of the Rings and just
00:30:24.150 --> 00:30:25.950
like storytelling in general. And that's something
00:30:25.950 --> 00:30:28.430
I'm really into is telling stories and meeting
00:30:28.430 --> 00:30:30.589
people with their stories and gathering that
00:30:30.589 --> 00:30:32.789
and experiencing those books kind of in real
00:30:32.789 --> 00:30:34.529
life, even though obviously there's no dragons.
00:30:34.609 --> 00:30:37.730
But it's still such a beautiful thing. And I,
00:30:37.910 --> 00:30:40.769
yeah, I don't know. She would be in awe, I think.
00:30:40.890 --> 00:30:42.819
There's just a lot. There's a lot I've done.
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:44.799
I think it would be very surprising because I
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:47.799
was so set on having a certain career. I was
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:50.000
so set on like being in the city, living this
00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:52.859
certain lifestyle. But then I was like, I think
00:30:52.859 --> 00:30:54.940
it took a lot of bravery to follow like the inner
00:30:54.940 --> 00:30:56.500
voice of like, there's more out there. You should
00:30:56.500 --> 00:30:57.980
go out there. You don't need to be here right
00:30:57.980 --> 00:31:01.559
now. It is. I agree because every journey took
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:05.019
some courage, isn't it? to make the jump because,
00:31:05.099 --> 00:31:08.240
as you say, you live in a big city and decided,
00:31:08.420 --> 00:31:10.759
I'm not going to carry on this anymore. I'm just
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:12.720
going to do something else. And the shift is
00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:16.380
not just tiny. The shift is huge. Yeah, it's
00:31:16.380 --> 00:31:17.900
a big shift. Difference. Yeah, big shift. And
00:31:17.900 --> 00:31:20.740
especially with, I mean, I'm talking about myself,
00:31:20.900 --> 00:31:23.279
you know, because I'm very spiritual, but it's
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:25.740
not only the last two years, finally, I have
00:31:25.740 --> 00:31:28.200
the courage to acknowledge that I'm very spiritual.
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:32.039
Because before that, there's the word spiritual.
00:31:32.140 --> 00:31:34.880
When you say in a different context, there's
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.640
always certain negativity or people think, oh,
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:40.000
you're very, very. It took me for a long time
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:42.160
to finally acknowledge that I'm a very spiritual
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:45.019
being. I believe something that is much bigger
00:31:45.019 --> 00:31:48.940
than myself and beyond what we can see and truly
00:31:48.940 --> 00:31:52.660
embracing it. So I'm really admire your courage
00:31:52.660 --> 00:31:56.230
at the age where you really. persuades what you
00:31:56.230 --> 00:31:59.269
know is your calling especially the first record
00:31:59.269 --> 00:32:02.329
reading that really changed your life traditionally
00:32:02.329 --> 00:32:05.390
isn't it I admire you because you really just
00:32:05.390 --> 00:32:07.190
show that you never stop growing and learning
00:32:07.190 --> 00:32:09.390
no matter what age you are you keep going and
00:32:09.390 --> 00:32:11.509
that's not something everybody does and so when
00:32:11.509 --> 00:32:13.390
I see you in these classes and doing these things
00:32:13.390 --> 00:32:16.299
and starting a podcast and it's just so magical
00:32:16.299 --> 00:32:18.240
like you're never done you never need to stop
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:20.019
you never need to kind of accept and that comes
00:32:20.019 --> 00:32:22.400
like you said it from a lot of acceptance like
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:24.440
i accept that this is what i believe i accept
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:26.519
that it's okay to believe this and i accept that
00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:28.259
that's not going to be everyone's cup of tea
00:32:28.259 --> 00:32:29.799
and that's something i've also been through like
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:32.500
my family does not understand my yoga and travel
00:32:32.500 --> 00:32:34.599
lifestyle they are actually very against it or
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:36.420
it's wrong or it's not how i should be living
00:32:36.420 --> 00:32:38.720
or it's all these things where it's like i know
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:40.680
that it's okay and i see other people living
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:42.960
this way and i know that they do it in a healthy
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.059
beautiful way where it's not like this horrible
00:32:45.059 --> 00:32:47.000
thing to run away. It's just, you're traveling
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:49.599
and experiencing life. And it's really beautiful.
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:52.019
And that you never stop growing and hearing that
00:32:52.019 --> 00:32:54.319
voice. And I think that, especially in my journey,
00:32:54.380 --> 00:32:56.500
I'm really meant to guide people into like listening
00:32:56.500 --> 00:32:58.359
and accepting who they are and what they want.
00:32:59.180 --> 00:33:00.859
You can have the thought of, I want to do this.
00:33:00.859 --> 00:33:02.220
I want to do this. But most people just have
00:33:02.220 --> 00:33:03.619
those thoughts. They don't go for it. They don't
00:33:03.619 --> 00:33:05.839
try or they try and fail. That's it. They don't
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.059
keep going where it's like, yes, failure is a
00:33:08.059 --> 00:33:10.400
part of it, but that's kind of part of the journey
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:12.259
and the fun of it. You know, life also isn't
00:33:12.259 --> 00:33:14.339
a linear thing. You can go from this corporate
00:33:14.339 --> 00:33:16.220
job, kind of the spiritual things and do the
00:33:16.220 --> 00:33:18.619
traveling and still live your life and not having,
00:33:18.619 --> 00:33:20.700
and also not being defined by one chapter. Like
00:33:20.700 --> 00:33:22.680
that one chapter doesn't define me. I experienced
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:24.940
it. But then it doesn't go to the next thing.
00:33:25.059 --> 00:33:27.400
By the way, so let's say if people want to find
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.539
you to do the reading for the record, do you
00:33:30.539 --> 00:33:32.940
still do that at the moment? Yes. So I have my
00:33:32.940 --> 00:33:34.859
website up. I'm going to put a new booking link
00:33:34.859 --> 00:33:37.240
on there. I got to fix that this week. But yeah,
00:33:37.339 --> 00:33:40.160
it's on my Instagram. Just lead them there if
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:42.079
you want. If not, it's pretty easy because I
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:44.339
do. I still offer it. I do it just because I'm
00:33:44.339 --> 00:33:45.839
not teaching at a studio and I don't promote
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:48.359
it regularly. I still do. Still really love doing
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:50.839
it. I love meeting people like this. I'm so glad
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:52.440
you've had such an amazing experience with this.
00:33:52.500 --> 00:33:54.480
I know like for me, when I was red, my whole
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:56.720
life like changed. And I was like, wow, of course,
00:33:56.740 --> 00:33:58.859
I never even knew I could open or open. How long
00:33:58.859 --> 00:34:02.539
was it ago when you started the yoga journey
00:34:02.539 --> 00:34:06.579
to now? Like how many years since? God, COVID
00:34:06.579 --> 00:34:09.199
really is when I started teaching because I got
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:12.079
my certificate 2020. But I really, like I said,
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:14.719
the journey for spirituality and yoga itself
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:17.960
was seven, eight years ago. That's a voice I
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:19.940
really listen to. Like when I was in my first
00:34:19.940 --> 00:34:22.659
training, I had a yoga teacher who was like 22
00:34:22.659 --> 00:34:25.159
years old. proficient in Sanskrit and like this
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:27.719
amazing, amazing person, like an angel on earth
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:31.000
was like so talented in her yoga, in her embodiment.
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:33.219
I was like, wow, she's so young and like lives
00:34:33.219 --> 00:34:35.719
this beautiful, successful life. I was just like
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:38.920
so inspired by that, that I just was like, I'm
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:41.159
going to do that. I want to go and teach and
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:43.780
experience and sing and dance and have fun and
00:34:43.780 --> 00:34:46.059
not just live this like corporate work life thing,
00:34:46.099 --> 00:34:47.980
but like incorporating, like enjoying what I
00:34:47.980 --> 00:34:50.280
do every day and not being miserable and trying
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:52.719
to find that like internal happiness with do.
00:34:52.780 --> 00:34:55.239
things I enjoy. It's been such like a fun, intense
00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:57.019
journey. And a lot of that has to do with wellness.
00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:00.320
I love yoga. I love teaching yoga. I love learning
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:02.179
about spirituality. The spirituality, yes, it
00:35:02.179 --> 00:35:04.920
can be like the inner healing heart and shadow
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:06.639
work and all that, but also it could be a lot
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:08.300
of fun. It's just like you feel lighter at the
00:35:08.300 --> 00:35:10.380
end of it. You learn that life isn't so serious.
00:35:11.099 --> 00:35:13.480
And it's meant to be fun and hopefully as easy
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:15.420
as it can be. Wow. You have a lot of wisdom,
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:17.980
Katie. I mean, I wish I were like you when I
00:35:17.980 --> 00:35:21.739
was younger. A lot of therapy, Ivan. A lot of
00:35:21.739 --> 00:35:23.639
therapy. No, the records have been helpful too.
00:35:23.739 --> 00:35:25.619
I use them as my personal guide all the time.
00:35:25.659 --> 00:35:27.300
I'm like, what do I do? Where do I go? And they're
00:35:27.300 --> 00:35:29.199
like, calm down and meditate. I'm like, okay.
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:31.639
It's really about the inner knowing and the biggest
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:33.380
part of the records. They're always leading me
00:35:33.380 --> 00:35:35.239
back to myself. They're like, they're there for
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:37.500
guidance, of course, but they are always telling
00:35:37.500 --> 00:35:40.380
me like. trust your voice trust your instinct
00:35:40.380 --> 00:35:42.099
and intuition because that's where the real magic
00:35:42.099 --> 00:35:45.340
is and trust that like what you want to do isn't
00:35:45.340 --> 00:35:47.380
like a horrible thing like you want to go travel
00:35:47.380 --> 00:35:49.659
go travel like these are good valid dreams go
00:35:49.659 --> 00:35:52.039
do them and that it's possible like these are
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:54.920
paths i can take like i i'm always like the first
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:56.519
to be like no i can't do that that's not possible
00:35:56.519 --> 00:35:58.800
it's just unrealistic versus like opening my
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:01.980
mind and being like wait maybe it is maybe i
00:36:01.980 --> 00:36:04.639
can just do it And finding out that you can,
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:06.139
even though there's challenges along the way
00:36:06.139 --> 00:36:07.780
and it can be really hard. It was really hard
00:36:07.780 --> 00:36:10.659
for me at times in New Zealand. I was like, yeah,
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:13.579
let's just go, surrender, jump off. I remember
00:36:13.579 --> 00:36:15.820
when you first, I know it's hard. That's why
00:36:15.820 --> 00:36:18.940
I have so much admiration because I know how
00:36:18.940 --> 00:36:21.940
hard it is, especially if you live in New York,
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:26.639
growing up in this very capitalism belief. It's
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:29.699
always pursuing something like security, job.
00:36:29.980 --> 00:36:33.579
And you literally say, I'm not going to do this
00:36:33.579 --> 00:36:35.980
I can't understand how your family is going to
00:36:35.980 --> 00:36:38.000
freak out it's like oh my god what's going on
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.519
I know they're so traditional so like you need
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:41.920
to make money have a job and that's your life
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:43.639
and then get married have babies and I'm like
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:45.840
even if I do get married and have kids I'm going
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:47.420
to still take them with me to travel the world
00:36:47.420 --> 00:36:49.800
like they're coming with me and it's just like
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:51.599
that non -traditional and I really feel like
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:53.480
it's mostly like I'm kind of trailblazing in
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:55.000
my family because it's very non -traditional
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:57.139
like everyone's always had jobs and I've worked
00:36:57.139 --> 00:37:00.360
since I was 13 like I'm good And I see this with
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.980
my dad. He was somebody who worked in a job that
00:37:02.980 --> 00:37:06.619
he hated for years. He wasn't happy with himself
00:37:06.619 --> 00:37:08.119
at the end of the day because you spend so much
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:10.340
time giving something that just isn't bringing
00:37:10.340 --> 00:37:12.079
you fulfillment, if not fulfillment, at least
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:14.059
indifference, that it's not like a drain on your
00:37:14.059 --> 00:37:16.840
life. And I just was very determined to find
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:19.659
something that felt fulfilling and felt interactive
00:37:19.659 --> 00:37:21.619
and felt like I could not only make a living,
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.599
but experience and enjoy. And so that was kind
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:26.320
of the main mantra and goal of my life. And I
00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:28.079
found that when I was in certain corporate jobs,
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.929
I was not happy. I was like, this is just so
00:37:30.929 --> 00:37:32.949
draining. I want to go home and do nothing, which
00:37:32.949 --> 00:37:34.730
is just sad. Like, I can't imagine spending my
00:37:34.730 --> 00:37:37.809
life doing this all the time. And also realizing
00:37:37.809 --> 00:37:39.590
that there is another path here. You hit the
00:37:39.590 --> 00:37:41.650
nail on the head, like New York is full of capitalism.
00:37:41.789 --> 00:37:44.150
Like that is the goal. First, last and only thing
00:37:44.150 --> 00:37:46.010
and experiencing the fact that that's not the
00:37:46.010 --> 00:37:48.530
priority in other places and that there are other
00:37:48.530 --> 00:37:51.309
ways to live was just eye opening. And I was
00:37:51.309 --> 00:37:53.110
like, yeah, I choose that. I choose that. But
00:37:53.110 --> 00:37:54.929
it's hard because it goes against the grain of
00:37:54.929 --> 00:37:56.550
where I am. And I'm like, I want to go here.
00:37:56.650 --> 00:37:58.869
And my friends are like, no, stay. I'm like,
00:37:58.889 --> 00:38:01.769
why? I want to go there. I know. Despite having
00:38:01.769 --> 00:38:05.230
all this great experience, but it took courage.
00:38:05.949 --> 00:38:08.230
Yeah, it's really hard. Especially when certain
00:38:08.230 --> 00:38:10.110
people you look to for support are telling you
00:38:10.110 --> 00:38:13.309
not to do it. And especially everyone is saying,
00:38:13.429 --> 00:38:16.000
don't do this and don't do that. But I have to
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:17.800
really look at it like, you know what, me traveling
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:20.039
does not mean I'm a good person. The lens of
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:22.099
like, I'm not hurting anybody. It's not like
00:38:22.099 --> 00:38:24.559
I'm on the streets doing drugs or stealing or
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:26.420
lying. Like, this is just an adventure I want
00:38:26.420 --> 00:38:28.960
to go on. Kind of looking at it through the moral
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:30.860
lens of like, what's good or bad about it? I'm
00:38:30.860 --> 00:38:32.179
like, you know what, I don't have this family
00:38:32.179 --> 00:38:33.599
I need to stay and support. It's not like I'm
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:36.219
leaving anybody. I just want to experience the
00:38:36.219 --> 00:38:37.800
world. And I don't think that's an inherently
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.420
bad thing. And I'm going to embrace that opinion,
00:38:40.460 --> 00:38:42.940
even though it's against everybody else's. And
00:38:42.940 --> 00:38:44.820
it doesn't mean I need to give up on relationships
00:38:44.820 --> 00:38:46.659
for people. I stay in touch with everybody when
00:38:46.659 --> 00:38:48.679
I travel, even though they don't see that. They're
00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:50.760
like, if you're not here, you don't have a relationship
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:52.639
with me. I'm like, that's just a very close -minded
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:55.219
way to look at it. We can call and text and whatever.
00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:58.699
You can come visit. And I just had to embrace
00:38:58.699 --> 00:39:00.679
it. But it's really lonely and hard at first
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:03.000
because you don't know. Until I met other people,
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:04.900
I didn't know that wasn't the crazy thing to
00:39:04.900 --> 00:39:07.000
do. Whereas I met other travelers, they're like,
00:39:07.059 --> 00:39:08.539
yeah, this is normal. I do this all the time.
00:39:08.619 --> 00:39:09.960
My family's used to it. I see them when I do.
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:12.130
And it's great. I'm like, wow. And they're okay
00:39:12.130 --> 00:39:13.989
with that. And other people are. And just that
00:39:13.989 --> 00:39:16.170
acceptance. And I really had, that's when I had
00:39:16.170 --> 00:39:17.789
to learn how to really accept my own opinion
00:39:17.789 --> 00:39:20.349
and my own self first. And so I find even when
00:39:20.349 --> 00:39:21.969
I have a big decision to make now, like, yes,
00:39:21.989 --> 00:39:23.670
I'll do research, but I'm going to just trust
00:39:23.670 --> 00:39:26.550
what feels great for me and how that works. And
00:39:26.550 --> 00:39:29.150
it's usually worked out great. Wow. And that's
00:39:29.150 --> 00:39:32.289
what I find amazing because you make it sound
00:39:32.289 --> 00:39:35.070
easy. But yeah, you know, like on the other hand.
00:39:35.070 --> 00:39:38.010
Definitely wasn't easy. Yeah, it doesn't come
00:39:38.010 --> 00:39:40.489
across that way, but it's not because of this
00:39:40.489 --> 00:39:42.969
conversation. Yeah, you came from New York City
00:39:42.969 --> 00:39:45.309
and people's mentality would be very different.
00:39:45.429 --> 00:39:48.989
It's very materialized and all that. And to actually
00:39:48.989 --> 00:39:51.269
decide that, you know, I'm just going to follow
00:39:51.269 --> 00:39:54.210
my calling is almost... Social calling, I didn't
00:39:54.210 --> 00:39:56.230
go to school for. I didn't have any interest
00:39:56.230 --> 00:39:58.969
in until after college and after being in a corporate
00:39:58.969 --> 00:40:01.449
job. Then I was like, people were like, you can't
00:40:01.449 --> 00:40:03.269
do that. You can't make a living. Like you're
00:40:03.269 --> 00:40:05.809
wasting your life. How selfish of you. I was
00:40:05.809 --> 00:40:09.090
like shredded to bits by people and that's really
00:40:09.090 --> 00:40:11.130
hard and it was really devastating to hear that
00:40:11.130 --> 00:40:12.969
from people you love and trust but it's also
00:40:12.969 --> 00:40:16.090
I just like it became so loud that I couldn't
00:40:16.090 --> 00:40:18.130
ignore it where it's like and there was just
00:40:18.130 --> 00:40:20.949
no way for me to not do it because I was like
00:40:20.949 --> 00:40:23.789
the alternative is to stay miserable and to stay
00:40:23.789 --> 00:40:25.690
in a place where I don't feel like I'm growing
00:40:25.690 --> 00:40:28.349
I don't feel like I could ever enjoy it and I
00:40:28.349 --> 00:40:30.789
knew like either I just go against the grain
00:40:30.789 --> 00:40:33.500
and I kind of get out of the box a little and
00:40:33.500 --> 00:40:35.400
do what feels good for me in a way where nobody
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:37.739
agrees. Nobody thinks it's a good idea and risk
00:40:37.739 --> 00:40:40.059
it. And what I risked wasn't like a seemingly
00:40:40.059 --> 00:40:42.679
big risk. Like my risks were having a yoga retreat
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.079
in India. My risks were living in New Zealand
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:47.320
for a year. Like these aren't crazy things and
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:49.000
these aren't, and I really had to like transform
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:51.199
that mindset and the limiting beliefs of like,
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.699
this isn't. in a way abnormal this isn't like
00:40:54.699 --> 00:40:57.000
a horror that you're impending on others like
00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:59.260
you're a good person you just want to do something
00:40:59.260 --> 00:41:00.880
a little different and to accept the fact that
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:03.980
that's what it is and to try anyway and you really
00:41:03.980 --> 00:41:06.539
learn like there is so much abundance that comes
00:41:06.539 --> 00:41:09.239
from that when you just believe in yourself even
00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:10.719
though there were failures along the way and
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:12.960
some pretty big ones that were hard I was like,
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:16.380
I, I tried, I tried, I learned, I met some really
00:41:16.380 --> 00:41:19.739
great people. I got to be there. And even if
00:41:19.739 --> 00:41:22.679
it was imperfect, I had that experience. So just
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:24.699
like staying open in that sense, but that's hard
00:41:24.699 --> 00:41:26.260
earned wisdom. Like there was a lot of tears,
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:28.880
a lot of crying, a lot of yelling, but everyone
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:30.539
has kind of discovered that for themselves. And
00:41:30.539 --> 00:41:33.500
I can't, the records will never bypass that emotional
00:41:33.500 --> 00:41:35.579
journey because everyone needs to feel it, but
00:41:35.579 --> 00:41:37.360
they will always encourage you to be like your
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.059
most authentic self where there's nothing limiting
00:41:40.059 --> 00:41:42.300
you, but you. And you're listening to those around
00:41:42.300 --> 00:41:44.079
you that don't agree with you. And that's why
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:48.000
I felt there's really courage because you could
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:49.980
have just stayed there and not doing anything.
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:53.420
But you decided you are going to listen to that
00:41:53.420 --> 00:41:56.360
voice and also your feelings and really decided
00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:59.579
to explore the world because you could have been
00:41:59.579 --> 00:42:03.210
so easy to stay. saying you're saying i can feel
00:42:03.210 --> 00:42:06.309
there's something yeah it's also especially since
00:42:06.309 --> 00:42:08.769
i feel like i'm this meant to be a spiritual
00:42:08.769 --> 00:42:10.750
leader for others and when i'm saying it got
00:42:10.750 --> 00:42:12.690
so loud i couldn't ignore it i'm saying like
00:42:12.690 --> 00:42:14.670
i do believe there are certain life situations
00:42:14.670 --> 00:42:16.989
you are meant to feel and experience that are
00:42:16.989 --> 00:42:18.530
outside of your control like when i left new
00:42:18.530 --> 00:42:20.909
york i had to leave i was like go for my job
00:42:20.909 --> 00:42:24.650
i couldn't afford red and I was so burnt out
00:42:24.650 --> 00:42:26.389
I was like I just have to be here and I was also
00:42:26.389 --> 00:42:29.289
having some very intense dreams saying like leave
00:42:29.289 --> 00:42:31.429
just leave go go to Hawaii seriously specifically
00:42:31.429 --> 00:42:34.750
Hawaii like go to the beach and leave and basically
00:42:34.750 --> 00:42:37.090
there was getting so many crazy physical signs
00:42:37.090 --> 00:42:39.909
like hearing Hawaii music hearing like getting
00:42:39.909 --> 00:42:43.190
visuals and I just like I couldn't see another
00:42:43.190 --> 00:42:45.690
path for myself and that's when I think I just
00:42:45.690 --> 00:42:48.010
I had to do it and so before I went to Hawaii
00:42:48.010 --> 00:42:50.480
I did the Reiki program Where I became a master,
00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:52.639
it was like a week -long program where it was
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:54.780
really intense lessons and learning. And it just
00:42:54.780 --> 00:42:56.619
completely changed my life because I feel like
00:42:56.619 --> 00:42:58.480
I was meant to be brought up spiritually that
00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:01.219
next level so I can share for others. And once
00:43:01.219 --> 00:43:03.539
I did that training, I really just saw my own
00:43:03.539 --> 00:43:06.519
energetic body. And I saw myself in terms of
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:08.320
how I interact with the world. And then I started
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:10.659
reading for my friends and family and really
00:43:10.659 --> 00:43:13.440
understanding this energy. And I feel like I
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:15.679
just… Even though I was resistant and even though
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:17.760
maybe I was really hesitant to even book this
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:19.639
training, the world just cleared the way. It's
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:21.139
like, no, you have to go. You have no choice.
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:23.639
It got too loud. And that's why I think when
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:25.980
I say certain places you're meant to go to or
00:43:25.980 --> 00:43:28.039
not go to, like Bali, it was like, get out of
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:29.920
here. And it kept making it louder and louder
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:33.039
until I couldn't ignore it. new york did the
00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:35.119
same as like get out of fear made it louder and
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:37.500
louder go do something else like where your life
00:43:37.500 --> 00:43:40.119
path is supposed to be and so like yes the records
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:41.739
will lead you to where you want to be and they
00:43:41.739 --> 00:43:44.059
really that's kind of how i got it started into
00:43:44.059 --> 00:43:46.380
reading records after reiki i really dived into
00:43:46.380 --> 00:43:48.179
that or it's like there's things you like signed
00:43:48.179 --> 00:43:50.019
up for like your soul's contract like you came
00:43:50.019 --> 00:43:52.179
here meaning to experience certain things and
00:43:52.179 --> 00:43:53.880
show up a certain way for other people because
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:56.239
that's their experience too and like you can't
00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:57.940
fail or miss it like you don't miss the boat
00:43:57.940 --> 00:44:00.000
in that sense and so It gets louder and louder
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:01.460
until you can't ignore it, until you're just
00:44:01.460 --> 00:44:04.380
shoved through the door. And then from there,
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:06.659
you can take those risks where it's like, yes,
00:44:06.739 --> 00:44:08.039
there's some things that are out of control and
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:10.239
you go and you keep going. You choose to keep
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:12.059
going. Like I could have gone back to New York
00:44:12.059 --> 00:44:14.039
and got another job. But instead I was like,
00:44:14.099 --> 00:44:15.920
I'm going to just keep going. I'm already here.
00:44:16.219 --> 00:44:20.039
Wow. And it's crazy. There's a balance. Do you
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:22.639
know one thing you did early on in your yoga
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.599
class I really liked? When you start with the
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:28.699
yoga classes, you used to read a poem or something
00:44:28.699 --> 00:44:32.079
just to kickstart the classes. And I really like
00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:34.679
it because every time when you are reading it,
00:44:34.739 --> 00:44:37.280
it kind of opened up my eyes. And also there
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:40.539
was something that I was struggling a lot with
00:44:40.539 --> 00:44:43.260
a lot of things in my life at the time. You know,
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:45.739
like what you say, something became so loud that
00:44:45.739 --> 00:44:49.000
I can't ignore anymore. And so that's why I started.
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:52.360
doing yoga and i didn't really share with people
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:55.219
i was having a lot of issues and left my job
00:44:55.219 --> 00:44:58.460
and i also left my partner with 22 years and
00:44:58.460 --> 00:45:01.300
i literally walk away from life that i created
00:45:01.300 --> 00:45:03.860
and i thought i should keep living big change
00:45:03.860 --> 00:45:07.059
yeah Because of what you just say, you know,
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:10.079
it almost pushed me to a way and say, you need
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:12.119
to stop lying to yourself. You need to find another
00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:14.980
way to really live authentically who you are.
00:45:15.179 --> 00:45:17.679
But I just want to acknowledge, even with that
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:20.159
opening of the reading, it was so soothing because
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.179
I was going through so much that I can't even
00:45:22.179 --> 00:45:25.579
verbalize it to anyone. or let people understand
00:45:25.579 --> 00:45:28.820
how crazy my world has become. I was so isolated.
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:31.099
There's no one can talk to me. I feel like my
00:45:31.099 --> 00:45:34.019
world has been stripped away completely. And
00:45:34.019 --> 00:45:37.039
then there's just this very small circle of people
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:39.400
that who can get close to me or I can get close
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:42.599
to. Golden Yogi was one of them. And so having
00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:45.380
someone like you come in and even just start
00:45:45.380 --> 00:45:49.199
with the reading always resonates with me. It's
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:51.420
almost like someone was talking to my soul. I
00:45:51.420 --> 00:45:54.239
feel so comforted just being, I'm going to cry
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:58.659
just being, you know, because it was really hard
00:45:58.659 --> 00:46:01.380
and I have no one to talk to. So I just want
00:46:01.380 --> 00:46:03.780
to say thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you
00:46:03.780 --> 00:46:05.519
for sharing that, Ivan. I know you went through
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:08.159
a tough year and I think you said it so well,
00:46:08.260 --> 00:46:10.340
like when you are getting shoved to the door.
00:46:10.829 --> 00:46:13.269
When I first met you, I would have had no idea
00:46:13.269 --> 00:46:15.690
about any of your troubles and what you were
00:46:15.690 --> 00:46:17.650
going through. You were the happiest, happiest
00:46:17.650 --> 00:46:20.510
guy. So social. When you say you were isolated,
00:46:20.650 --> 00:46:22.789
it's so surprising to me. But that means you
00:46:22.789 --> 00:46:24.389
just don't know what someone's going through.
00:46:24.449 --> 00:46:26.590
And when you were shoved through that door, it
00:46:26.590 --> 00:46:28.449
seems like, from my perspective, you found yourself
00:46:28.449 --> 00:46:30.510
and your voice. Because not only did you meet
00:46:30.510 --> 00:46:32.469
all these great new people, you talked to them
00:46:32.469 --> 00:46:34.449
and see them outside of class, but you really
00:46:34.449 --> 00:46:36.989
started this podcast. And you really started
00:46:36.989 --> 00:46:39.389
really helping others share their voices, too,
00:46:39.510 --> 00:46:41.829
and finding yours and listening to yours. And
00:46:41.829 --> 00:46:43.309
so that's like a really beautiful part of the
00:46:43.309 --> 00:46:45.150
journey where it's like sometimes you can't get
00:46:45.150 --> 00:46:47.030
there on your own. Those external messages, like
00:46:47.030 --> 00:46:48.789
I was saying, that come to you through like your
00:46:48.789 --> 00:46:51.869
teachers or somebody on the street or the events
00:46:51.869 --> 00:46:53.369
that keep happening until they're louder and
00:46:53.369 --> 00:46:55.289
louder. And it's just like how amazing it is
00:46:55.289 --> 00:46:57.750
now that where you are. you had to go through
00:46:57.750 --> 00:46:59.889
all that even though it was hard and lonely and
00:46:59.889 --> 00:47:02.090
horrible it is inevitable this is part of your
00:47:02.090 --> 00:47:04.070
life path for sure like you being here doing
00:47:04.070 --> 00:47:06.309
these podcasts so it's like it's just a really
00:47:06.309 --> 00:47:08.090
beautiful journey and i'm so glad i got to see
00:47:08.090 --> 00:47:09.349
it i've been like i can't believe we're here
00:47:09.349 --> 00:47:11.429
doing a podcast with you where it's like a year
00:47:11.429 --> 00:47:13.349
ago it's just you were just a student having
00:47:13.349 --> 00:47:15.949
a good time and i love saying words and it seems
00:47:15.949 --> 00:47:17.449
like words really resonate with you but you never
00:47:17.449 --> 00:47:18.730
know what's going to resonate with somebody whether
00:47:18.730 --> 00:47:21.289
it's a specific sequence or the music or what
00:47:21.289 --> 00:47:23.789
you say or how you touch them with adjustments
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:26.780
It's like, but you don't, it's not up to you.
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:28.639
It's like that message is for them and whatever
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:30.559
they take from it. I'm just so glad you got something
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:32.559
from it. And you were just the best student.
00:47:32.659 --> 00:47:34.820
I miss having you in my class. I miss having
00:47:34.820 --> 00:47:37.320
you as well. And I have one more question to
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:39.679
ask you. If you could have go back to the younger
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:42.420
self, whatever younger self that might be, and
00:47:42.420 --> 00:47:45.539
what would you say to the younger Casey? So many
00:47:45.539 --> 00:47:49.059
things, mostly just keep going. Honestly, I don't
00:47:49.059 --> 00:47:50.940
think I would have her change anything of what
00:47:50.940 --> 00:47:53.420
I did because where those choices led me here.
00:47:53.789 --> 00:47:55.849
And there was nothing inherently wrong with what
00:47:55.849 --> 00:47:58.010
I did or how I got here. I would just say, like,
00:47:58.050 --> 00:48:00.409
don't give up. Keep going. Just keep trying.
00:48:00.590 --> 00:48:03.920
Keep failing. going again and have more fun with
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:05.420
it. The thing I could say is like, can you just
00:48:05.420 --> 00:48:07.760
relax, have some fun? It's always going to work
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:09.679
out for you. Always, always works out. Even if
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:12.260
it's the craziest way, just relax, but also have
00:48:12.260 --> 00:48:14.420
some fun. Absolutely. And I also want to say
00:48:14.420 --> 00:48:17.000
that I really hope you get to teach yoga again
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:19.619
because I think you have such a gift. Yeah. And
00:48:19.619 --> 00:48:22.280
you have such a gift, really, because I experienced
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.159
it and I experienced all the instructors in the
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:27.780
classes, you know, and there's a few that is
00:48:27.780 --> 00:48:30.400
like my favorite. Yeah. And you're one of them.
00:48:30.500 --> 00:48:32.739
And I really, I mean, because I don't know if
00:48:32.739 --> 00:48:35.500
anyone has given you this feedback at all. You're
00:48:35.500 --> 00:48:37.820
always able to help people to feel grounded in
00:48:37.820 --> 00:48:42.079
the end of the class. It's more than just yoga
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:44.340
class. You can feel it. There's another level
00:48:44.340 --> 00:48:46.679
of energies that you presented to the class.
00:48:46.820 --> 00:48:49.440
And then this is very healing as well. So I really
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:52.260
hope that you will carry on and being you and
00:48:52.260 --> 00:48:54.780
share your gift with the world. And I hope there's
00:48:54.780 --> 00:48:57.039
a lot more people get to enjoy your gift as well.
00:48:58.329 --> 00:49:00.349
I haven't heard that feedback before. So thank
00:49:00.349 --> 00:49:02.670
you. That means a lot. I love teaching and I
00:49:02.670 --> 00:49:04.150
will be teaching again. It's just a matter of
00:49:04.150 --> 00:49:06.809
where. Yeah, I feel the same way. I feel like
00:49:06.809 --> 00:49:08.969
we're just getting started. You and me both are
00:49:08.969 --> 00:49:11.110
just getting started on this crazy journey. And
00:49:11.110 --> 00:49:12.909
it feels like even though we're like so far in
00:49:12.909 --> 00:49:14.389
it and through it, it's just like there's still
00:49:14.389 --> 00:49:17.590
so much like new heights we can go to for both
00:49:17.590 --> 00:49:18.429
of us. Thank you.
