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Topics Covered
- Teresa's accidental path into AI engineering
- Her partnership with Vistaly
- Building "Teresa Bot"
- How she learned — and how you can too
- Discovery skills transfer directly to AI engineering
- On her engineering background (and why it's not what you think)
- The real takeaway
Key Quotes
"I know anything that I don't know how to do, Claude will teach me how to do. And Claude is infinitely patient." — Teresa Torres
"I don't want to build all that stuff. I don't really want to be a software company. I'm almost set up like an AI researcher." — Teresa Torres
"The moment I learned more about data science, all of my discovery work became so different." — Petra Wille
Resources & Links:
- Follow Teresa Torres: https://ProductTalk.org
- Follow Petra Wille: https://Petra-Wille.com
Mentioned in this episode:
- Behind the Scenes: Building the Product Talk Interview Coach blog by Teresa
- Claude Code
- Vistaly, an opportunity solution tree software partnering with Teresa
- Opportunity Solution Trees: Visualize Your Discovery to Stay Aligned and Drive Outcomes by Teresa
- Product Talk Academy by Teresa
- Just Now Possible Podcast by Teresa, which is a podcast on teams building AI products
- Vibe Coding Best Practices: Avoid the Doom Loop with Planning and Code Reviews blog by Teresa which includes the full Claude conversation used to build Teresa Bot
- AI Evals for Engineers and PMs course by Hamel Husain and Shreya Shankar (get 35% off through Teresa’s link) on Maven
- CDH Membership (includes Slack community access with Teresa and other continuous discovery practitioners)
- Previous All Things Product episode: Product Builder Myth
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Topics Covered:
Why Teresa is (half-jokingly) threatening to retire
The stark contrast between vendor-friendly companies and bureaucratic nightmares — and why company size isn't the deciding factor
The hidden cost of procurement theater: scope creep, repetitive forms, and the 800-question secu…
Three Models of Team Learning
Train everyone at once — builds shared language, but not everyone is ready at the same time
Self-directed learning — works for highly motivated individuals, but lacks accountability
Small-group learning — the sweet spot: peer accountability, shared momentum, and j…
What We Cover
Why individuals can't change their organizations
Teresa shares a real email from a designer who wanted help training her PMs — and why she had to say no. Without executive sponsorship, organizational pain, and urgency, nothing moves.
The three conditions for change (Petra's framew…
Key Takeaways
The honest self-reckoning: Both Petra and Teresa reflect on having been active contributors to technologies — social media, the internet, AI — that have had real negative consequences, even when built with good intentions.
Greed as the root cause: The shift from "make people's liv…
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