FIVEAA Afternoons with Stacey Lee - 11 March 2026

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Speaker 1: Five Double A Afternoons with Stacy Lee.
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Speaker 2: Good afternoon to you and happy Wednesday. It's the eleventh of March. I'm Stacy with you on five Double A through until four o'clock and I'm exhausted already, if I'm totally honest, it's been a big day in Adelaide so far. Have you heard the news Chris McDermott bone ifl legend he announced. I think he shocked everyone when he announced in January that he was going to run for parliament under Sarah games Fair Go for All Australians party. At first he was going to run in the seat of Dunstan, Stephen Marshall's former seat, and then he announced that he'd be the lead candidate on the party's Upper House ticket. Well, today he says he's going it alone. He's going to leave the party and will run for the election, but just as an independent. What do you think about that? Because every time we have someone who's elected to Parliament and then they choose to leave a party, I know there are a lot of people that really don't agree with that. You were elected under the party's banner and you should be you should stay with that party. What about in this situation, when we're ten days out from a state election, does the same rule apply in your mind? Eight double two to three double low double low, Or since we are before an election, does it not count. Maybe it's better to make the decision now than post election. If he gets elected, of course, However, the ballots have already been printed. Early voting starts in two days time, the candidates have already been announced. It's already up on the Electoral Commission's website. So what happens If you were thinking of voting for Chris McDermott, how do you vote for him? And if you were thinking of voting for Sarah Games party, how do you vote for her party? This afternoon you're going to hear from both of them, Sarah Game and Chris McDermott will join me after three o'clock. And for me, the big issue today is why why has this happened? When he announced in January that he would run for the party, it seemed like the announcement came more from a point of friendship than anything else. Chris McDermott hasn't really been very public. He hasn't done many interviews, we haven't really heard from him about his policies or his platforms, or the issues that he really wants to fight for in parliament. So it seemed to me like he was running more as a mate of Sarah Games than anything else. So why has he now announced he's going to leave the party? And it does follow to others who have left the party as well. Jake haul Evans just a couple weeks ago, he was originally going to be on Sarah Games Party's Upper House ticket, then moved to the seat of Colton, then he said he was leaving the party. Henry Davis as well, Adelaide City councilor, was a member of the party and was going to run and he left as well. So what's happening. We'll put that to Sarah Gain. Is there something going on within the structure of the party. Is there something she could have done better to keep these three men within the party? What's going on? We'll hopefully have some answers for you after three o'clock. There's also been a lot of discussion about petrol, petrol people hoarding petrol. I don't know about you, but when I see someone at the service station with a Jerry Can, I just shake my head. I just think, really that is the problem. You are the problem. We know that there's a fuel shortage because people are hoarding it and taking too much. It's toilet paper all over again, giving PTSD. But what else could be impact by the war in Iran? A third of the world's fertilizer comes from the Middle East and it makes its way around the world through the Strait of Hormus. If that's effectively blocked, what is it going to mean for the cost of fertilizer. What is that going to mean for our farmers who grow the food we eat? Is it going to mean the cost of food? Are the supermarket's going to see this as an opportunity to front price gouge and will we be paying more for food as a result of what's happening in Iran? Freight as well, we know will become more expensive given what I just mentioned about petrol and diesel, So this could have wide ranging ramifications. We'll talk to John Berry. He's a leader of geopolitics at KPMG and he's got some thoughts on this, So that's coming up after one point thirty, And of course we're talking about how the war in Iran can affect lots of different areas of our lives. We've already spoken about what it could do to interest rates, what impact could it have on the property market. Bronte manual will be in after two o'clock with Real Estate Radio, so you can ask him your real estate question. But I'd also like to ask him what he thinks the war in Iran, if any impact could be on the local property market. Tech Talk with Richard Pasco if you have a tech related question as well. So we've got it all happening this afternoon, and as always, your thoughts are the most important. Eight double two to three double O double Oh's the number to call, or you can send me a text zero double four to eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. Already getting lots of text messages about Chris McDermott leaving the Fair Go for Australians Party. This person says, I'm sick of all these independents. What can they do on their own? Thank you for that? Well, you know, they would argue that they can help keep the government to account. They can be the balance of power. If one party has a majority in the lower House. In the upper House, they can pass whatever laws they want. So if you have independence. They're the ones who stop those laws going through in the Upper House at least, and they can be rewritten or changed in some way. Yes, that's what they would argue, Dan says, Jake hall Evans is a career politician who would do anything to get in the door, so it wouldn't surprise me he would leave. Is he dead. I've never heard of Jake hall Evans before this election. He's certainly never been in the Parliament, so I don't know how you can call him a career politician. I don't know much about the guy, to be honest, which I think would tell you maybe he's not. But keep your thoughts coming. Eight double two to three double ow is the number to call speaking of independence and what they can do on their own. Connie Banaris is an MLC for SA Best in State Parliament's Upper House, running again this election, and she joins you this afternoon. Good afternoon, Connie Banarus.
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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Stacey, and good afternoon for your listeners.
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Speaker 2: We have another matter we wanted to talk about this afternoon. Well I wanted to talk to you about it this afternoon in regards to what's happened recently with Chris Picton and the medical information that's been released by him in his office. But before we get onto that, can I ask your reaction to Chris McDermott leaving Sarah Games party.
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Speaker 3: Oh look, I think that's a matter for Chris and for Sarah. I'm not in a position to comment on what happens in other political parties.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 3: We're running an election campaign now, Stacy. So our focus is our focus is fairly and squarely on election day, on the twenty first, and I'll leave that to christ and Sarah to speak.
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Speaker 2: To fair enough, Okay, Now let's move on to this story with the Health Minister Chris Pickton. The opposition is obviously calling for him to be sacked or to stand down after he released the wrong letter from the wrong Stephen King. He thought he was releasing a letter from a Stephen King who had died after being ramped praising the health system. I won't go into the whole background of the story because I know a lot of our listeners know it. It's been on the station for the last couple of days. It was revealed, yeah, yesterday by the opposition that other personal information was released by his office or by him of another patient, Monica Wohlstad, she had a number of elective surgeries canceled, and the opposition claims and Monica claims that confidential medical information of hers was given to journalists, in particular the type of medication that she was taking. Now, I was thinking about this and I thought, if a clinician was the one releasing this medical information, they'd be sacked, and in the past they have been. It happened after Cy Walsh clinicians were found to be accessing sy Walsh's medical records. It happened after the death of Charlie Stevens. Clinicians were sacked after they were found to be illegally accessing Charlie Stevens medical records. So why what's the case here? Why is it different for politicians?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're quite right, And after the sy Walsh case, I think there were about twenty one, say health staff members who were sacked or disciplined for inappropriately accessing patient records. And remember as well, I think there was a warning to stapole at the same time for the same sorts of incidents. The difference here really is simple stacy and our Health Act contains very strict provisions relating to patient confidentiality. We know that, and those provisions apply to a lot of people who work within Essay Health, in fact, all people who work within say Health, but they don't apply to the minister, and they don't apply to minister or staff. And then we have a set of privacy principles that also don't seem to apply to ministers either. So you know, when I first heard about this story, my immediate concern went to that patient's privacy and I thought that seems to have been overlooked at the first instance, and it's certainly something that warrants further attention by way of change to our health Care Act to ensure that ministers and their minders actually can't use that same patient correspondence for any out and authorized political purposes. And that's effectively what we've said has happened here, right. Yeah, I know Ashton has called for the minister to resign. Look, I'm not going to get into the politicking between the two major parties over these. What I will say, though, quite clearly, is that what has happened in the last few days has demonstrated I think an urgent need to review our legislation and ensure that those same privacy provisions that apply to everybody who works in say health effectively from the CEO down, apply also to ministers and their staff.
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Speaker 2: Right. Oh, because I was thinking particularly about the Stephen King letter that was released right that was a letter praising the health system from twenty twenty three. Now, I don't know where that's come from. The Minister says he found it and it was his choice to release it. But I'll be very surprised if a letter praising the healthcare system had been sent to the minister. I have a suspicion that potentially it's come from within the department. So if there's someone within the department who found it and sent it to the minister's office, is that illegal?
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Speaker 5: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Well, and look we don't know. I don't know, I don't know details the closed to us of how that's actually occurred. Certainly ministers, through via their departments, would have access to information when they need it. And look, I think this morning I heard both Ashton and Chris the Minister on air talking about this and saying, well, you know, this isn't the first time it's happened before. Both parties have been you know, have suggested that it's happened when either was in opposition. But that's really deflecting from the main issue at heart here, and that is regardless of whether it's talking about a nice, feel good letter that has been sent by Stephen King or a letter that contains private medical record and things like medication. I as a politician, can't go out and stand up and disclose correspondence that's been provided to me. And you would have thought that the same provisions apply to the Health Minister. And what I'm saying is clearly under the legislation, they don't. Now that might be the case across the boards with all ministers. I'm not sure. I haven't looked that far into it. This case is highlighted very clearly that there is a need to revisit this, and I don't say that lightly. We receive privileged and confidential information all the time, and we know what the rules are around that information and that there are consequences if you disclose that without somebody's consent, and that here seems to be the point that we've you know, I guess overlooked. It's not only an issue of consent, but in this instance, we're talking about someone's medical conditions and medical records.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And regardless of whether the Stephen King letter that you referred to was a nice, fluffy letter about how great the health system is or not, the question really is did you have that person's consent before you made it public?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the answer is no.
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Speaker 3: And the answer is if the answer is no, well, then should that be okay? And should ministers in their minders be at liberty to share that sort of information or should they have to go through the same sorts of checks and balances that other health workers within Essay Health have to go through? And I think you know, the logical next step is that it would have to I think in the Stephen King instance as well, it's worth noting that there's impact two people here who have been impacted by this because it was wrong person.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the wrong Stephen King. I understand that the ministers since reached out to the Stephen King who wrote the letter and apologize as you.
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Speaker 3: Would expect, and I'd expect nothing less of this minister to be fair, I'd expect absolutely nothing less less of him than to do that. But again, taking the politics out of it for a moment, in this instance, we have a clear instance of where I think you know, correspondence has been used for to protect a political position, and we've chosen to discrip Well, we haven't. The government's chosen to disclose patient correspondents without any thought about the impacts or privacy of privacy concerns that the individual who is impacted by it may have. Now, there is nothing explicit in our legislation at the moment, as it turns out, that prevents the minister from doing that, certainly not within the public within the health Care Act that governs our healthcare system. If it was a doctor, if it was a nurse, if it was anyone who was employed at the hospital. As you said with the other instance that you pointed to Siwalsh, it would be a very different set of circumstances and likely results in discipline, reaction or even termination case.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I put that to Ashton Hearn yesterday and this is what she said.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and your spot on Stacy. A number of Essay Health staff lost their job for viewing the medical records, not only Sywalsh, but Charlie Stevens as well. And so in this situation where we know that specific medical information has been weaponized for political purposes, for the labor party. I think that should absolutely have the same level of investigation and certainly something that we'll be doing if we're elected A I can guarantee that patient privacy will be front and center of everything that we do in health. It is a non negotiable. But we need to get to the bottom of whether this is a pattern of behavior from the ALP, so we'll be conducting a review immediately.
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Speaker 2: Do you think there needs to be an independent investigation?
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Speaker 3: Well, two points. It's not for Ashton or indeed the Premier to determine whether or not there is an investigation. We have an onwardsman there who can, of their own initiative today instigate that investigation. That is their job, that is what they do every day. That same onwardsman can also then assess what is before them and determine whether or not that complaint should be escalated. The Office of Publicly Public Integrity exists for that purpose. So it's not really for politicians to be determining right now whether there needs to be an independent review, because we have the mechanisms in this state for that's what you're already And indeed, if you know Ashton hern is concerned, then she's quite free and at liberty to make that Referra herself to the Office of Public Integrity or the Ombardsman. So the mechanisms already exist. This isn't a matter where the premier or the leader of the opposition, you know, should be assessing whether an investigation is needed or not. We have bodies in this state who are responsible for that. The only other point that I would make, and it was just going to the first point that Ashton and you might have to remind me what that was though, So I just forgot.
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Speaker 2: She said that if the Liberal parties elected that patient privacy would be important to her government.
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Speaker 3: I guess that goes to the heart of what I just said. The patient privacy and confidentiality is subject to very stringent rules already under the Health Care Act. It's not that those provisions don't exist, it is that there are people who are exempt from them. Now Ministers and their departmental staff are not staff of SA Health, and that I think is what has given to this situation needs to be looked at.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it sounds like it does think we'd be looked at.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.
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Speaker 2: Connie Banarus, We're almost out of time. But while I've got you. I did want to play you something that I probably don't need to play to you. Some comments you made over the weekend, how well I think it's still stood out to a lot of people. Here's for those who haven't heard it. Here's what Connie Bnarus had to say over the weekend about Corey Bernardi.
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Speaker 8: Can I start by saying this, There is a special Greek word for people like Cory Bernardi and the repugnant and vile views that he has shared, and that word is malaca. And if he doesn't know what that means, he should go and find himself a Greek dictionary. I don't know who we are going to offend next. Is it Australian Indians? Is it Australian Greeks? Is it Australian Vietnamese people?
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Speaker 9: Is it women?
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Speaker 8: Corey and Paulleen Hansen are both cut from the same mean spirited clots.
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Speaker 2: Now, Connie Binarus, I've seen a lot of people online praising you. I've seen almost as many people online having a crack saying it was inappropriate and unbecoming of a parliamentarian to be using language like that. Firstly, when you reference the comments that Corey Bernardi made with those his comments linking homosexuality to beast reality? Was it those ones?
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Speaker 3: Absolutely?
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Speaker 4: They were?
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Speaker 2: And do you regret saying that? Do you regret calling him a Malacca?
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Speaker 10: Oh?
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Speaker 3: Look, I've been asked this question several times today and my response will be the same. Yes, of course I've thought about them, and I regret them about as much as Corey regrets making them fourteen years ago and doubling down on them last week on Friday.
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Speaker 2: So that's a whole not a whole lot of regret. Nope, Okay, Connie Banarus, appreciate your time today, Thank you, Thank you, say best MLC. Connie Banarus. There eight double two two three double O double OW is the number to call to have your say, or you can send me a text zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. It can be about the matter with the health minister. Should politicians be held to the same account that essay health staff are? If say, health staff snoop on someone's medical information and then release it to the public, they'll get sacked. Should politicians be held to the same standard? Or maybe you've got some thoughts about Chris McDermott leaving Sarah games political party? Will you vote for him? Will you vote for her party? How's it going to work? Dawn in Truro's on the phone. Hello, Dawn.
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Speaker 11: Hello, don't ask me how I am because I spending all my day She's being angry about things?
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Speaker 2: Are you angry about?
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Speaker 12: Dawn?
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Speaker 2: That's no good.
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Speaker 11: I want to know about Chris quitting the party and who is he going to still go be an independent? And where will his his preferences go?
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Speaker 2: All right, well, i'll ask him this afternoon. The answer to the first part is yes, he says he will still be an independent. But I'll ask him this afternoon where his preferences will go. I'll write it down right now.
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Speaker 13: What about moment?
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Speaker 11: I mean, what's wrong with people these days? There thinsk In and something that Corey said what fourteen years ago or something? And what's wrong with people? They need to toughen up? And it just makes me so angry. Do you think the common sense?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess Corey Benardi's comments from fourteen years ago were linking being gay to beast reality and he and he repeated them again, so that's why they've come up again. Do you do you think people should toughen up over that.
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Speaker 11: I think people are just in general, you know, these days, everybody's saying something and their feelings are hurt and they're suing and all that sort of thing. Why don't they just living and use some common change. I don't know. I'm giving up.
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Speaker 3: Don't give it up.
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Speaker 2: Don't give up, Dawn, don't do that. We need you. Thank you for the call.
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Speaker 11: Run I'm running out of.
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Speaker 2: No, you're not. I don't believe that for a minute. You'll never run out of tough, Dawn. I'm trying not to thank you for the call.
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Speaker 9: I see you.
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Speaker 2: It's Dawn in Truro. Eight double two to three, double oh, double O is the number to call. It's time for news headlines now and after that? What impact could the war in Iran have on our food prices?
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Speaker 6: Five double A afternoons with Stacy Lee.
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Speaker 2: At twenty seven minutes to two. Here on five double A. Happy to take your calls all afternoon. Eight double two to three, double O, double oh is the number to call, or you can send me a text zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five and Jake Hall Evans has done that. He is an independent now independent candidate in the seat of Colton. We had a text message from someone earlier who said he's a career politician who would do anything to get in the door. Jake Hale Evans responded on our text line. He's said, Hi, Stacy j Cole Evans. Here's small business owner and previous Liberal candidate. Never was a UNI political club. Never was in a UNI political club, brother, and definitely not a career politician. I've run before as I think the Western suburbs deserve better representation from a cross section of the community. So there you go. That's how Jake Hall Evans responds to your tech Dan and thank you for the response. As always, our phone lines are open whoever it is, politicians, business leaders, punters who have an opinion. Our phone lines are there for you. Eight double two to three double OW is the number to call. Let's get onto geopolitical world now, because if you haven't heard, there's a little something happened in the Middle East and it's impacting petrol supplies and the cost of petrol. And I know there's been a huge discussion about what it means for you when you need to fill up your car and diesel as well. But the war in Iran could have a few other implications that maybe we haven't necessarily thought about. But John Berry has thought about them. He's the geopolitics lead at KPMG, and he joins you this afternoon.
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Speaker 14: Hi John, Hi there, Daisy.
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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your time.
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Speaker 15: No worries.
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Speaker 2: Can we really see food prices rise as a result of the war in Iran?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, food is a really interesting one and not sort of the first thing that popped into people's heads when we had conflict breakout in the Middle East. But the issue with this conflict is that as many people know that the Strait of Hormuz is blocked at the moment, and that means that oil and gas is not making its way out of the Persian Golf.
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Speaker 14: Or very little of it.
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Speaker 15: But what's less.
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Speaker 5: Well known is that a third of the world's nitrogen fertilizers are made in the Persian Gulf, and so they're also stuck. And then the other two thirds that are made elsewhere in the world rely on gas to make those fertilizers, So you know that those manufacturers everywhere are struggling with gas supply too. So we've already seen fertilizer prices jump by at least thirty percent since the start of the conflict, And you know that means that farmers have got some pretty difficult decisions to make as they plan their planting for this year. You know, are they going to spend more on fertilizer are they going to plant less? And either way we're likely to see those costs or that supply constrain wash through into higher food prices here. Maybe not instantly, and certainly it'll depend on how long the conflict lasts. But it's a real watch food prices.
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Speaker 2: And does that mean the cost of fertilizer for us would go up as well? Obviously it means more to farmers. But you know, if I'm redoing my backyard and I need to buy some fertilizer from my local Bunnings, is the cost of that fertilizer going up or is it a different kind?
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Speaker 5: I guess it depends what you use. I mean, if you're using kind of sheep manure and that kind of thing, then maybe not or not not immediately. It's more the kind of agribusiness scale nitrogen based fertilizers that you use for large scale, large scale agriculture. It's a slightly different market. I mean eventually, if those fertilizers are affected, then also the animals. You know, the animal fodder is going to be affected too in terms of costs, and you could eventually see some wash through, but you're likely to see it in food long before you see it in pelletspy garden.
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Speaker 2: Right, Okay. And then we've also been as I mentioned, talking about the implications it's had on petrol supplies and the cost of petrol and diesel. I imagine eventually that could filter down through two prices of food and everything we buy. If this is going to be long term increase in petrol prices due to freight.
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Speaker 16: Costs, yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, everything that's moved by road relies on fuel costs as well, so when they go up, then yes, what you put in your carget's more expensive, but so does anything that travels on a truck. And that actually links to another bigger point, which is that because there's so much disruption to sea freight, there's all of these ships that are blocked up in the Middle East, and it has these knock on effects through the whole sea freight industry where shipping companies have to reroot ships and they have to cancel voyagers, and all of that creates delays, and you know, you've got these war premiums, insurance premiums shipping companies have to pay, which can double the costs of a ship's.
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Speaker 5: You know, running costs. So all of that also adds to the inflation. Not just the fuel that our trucks are running on here, but all of that disruption in cea transport which on which we rely for so much.
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Speaker 2: Especially if they're having to reroute them through the Middle East.
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Speaker 5: Yeah that's right, or away from the Middle East or what have you. It's just sort of this all of this disruption as like a you know, a pebble in the pond, the ripples.
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Speaker 17: Just go outwards.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I was reading somewhere as well that the I guess the physical war in Iran could also lead to more cyber attacks. Is that your understanding? And how does that work? Because my mind doesn't connect the dots on those two, So can you connect them from me?
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Speaker 18: John?
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Speaker 12: Sure?
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Speaker 5: I can do my best. So when we have conflict in the Middle East, we almost always observe more cyber activity, cybercrime activity. And part of this is because maybe cyber criminals take advantage of a bit of chaos. But the other part of it is that Iran, for example, has some very advanced hackers that are always looking for opportunities to do these sort of gray zone tactics against their adversaries. And so that means that big infrastructure, critical infrastructure like water and sewage and electricity systems in other countries are potential targets for these cyber attackers. Australia is not a primary target probably, but we certainly faith risk that systems that we rely on, like maybe cloud storage, you know, for data or big CRM systems that companies use here in Australia, they're hosted in another country. But if they are successfully attacked then then our businesses can be impacted. To all of that is very hyper connected.
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Speaker 14: Wow.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So if there if there are people out there listening and they're trying to I guess, plan plan their finances, plan, you know, the short term future, what what advice would you give them?
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Speaker 5: Well, the first piece of advice is that it's good to remember that we're only ten days into this conflict. It seems like a long time ago now that it started, but it's actually only a week and a half and it's very unclear whether we're going to see the sort of peak conflict that that we're still in now last for.
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Speaker 15: Very much longer.
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Speaker 5: And most analysts will just tell you we'll know more in a week, and that's not super helpful, but we will know more in a week. But like in terms of planning, I guess, don't panic, don't overreact is a generally good rule of thumb. A lot of the impacts on things like prices can come from more from people's behavior than from the actual, you know, the actual shortage of something. We saw that during COVID, right like, there was no real shortage of toilet paper, but everyone panicked and bought it all up, and then there was a shortage of toilet paper, so it became a self fulfilling prophecy. So generally, you know, I guess, think about fuel costs very likely to stay higher for a while. We're already seeing some fairly high you know costs. I don't know what you're paying at the moment, but we're certainly up towards the two dollars fifty in Melbourne.
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Speaker 2: In a lot of places, oh wow, it's about which is two twenty here?
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Speaker 5: I think, Yeah, Okay, Well even that's you know, it's not low. So I guess families could do well to think about perhaps what's the essential sort of transport that they need to do, you know, not taking unnecessary in the car coupling. I don't know that that sort of thing, but like the sort of the knee jerk panic buying is the thing that will actually make the situation worse. So avoiding that kind of reaction is a good rule of thumb.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I've got a text message here from Sue and Christie's beach said, I did my weekly shop this morning. A woman in the queue ahead of me had two massive packs of toilet paper. She was my age, too old to have a litter of kids at home, and nothing else in big quantities in her trolley, so no excuse. So maybe she needed it. Maybe we're doing this whole toilet paper petrol thing again.
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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, And I think that it's interesting that this kind of psychologic psychological impact of one of these moments is stronger if we have a recent episode that we were scarred by. And I think we were all kind of star by COVID, right, so people are a little more trigger on a hair trigger for this sort of reaction.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe we all just need to take a breath, take a pause, take a minute, and yeah, and hold off for a second. John, Yeah, yeap general advice. Appreciate your time.
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Speaker 5: Thank you, thanks so much, Stacy.
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Speaker 2: It's John Berry, the geopolitics lead at KPMG.
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Speaker 19: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I think we all just need to take a little breath, especially when you're going past that server. You probably don't need the jerry can. I saw some reporting that Bunnings is running out of jerry cans. Do we come on, people, do we really need to be doing that. Scott in Hillbank is already seeing the effects on food prices. I just came back from Foodland and a cucumber cost me three dollars fifty one cucumber. Really, I'd probably question that. I'd probably be getting the receipt on that one, Scott. I. Actually we went to the Ed Sheeran concert last week, my mum and I and we got some food, ordered a burger and some chicken tenders and the lady said, oh here, I just tapped there and tapped my card. No, my mum tapped her card and it came up on the screen. Seventy five dollars approved, and I said, seventy five dollars?
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Speaker 20: Really, is that how.
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Speaker 2: Much burgers and chicken tenders are? And she said, oh, I put through two burgers, so then yeah, that was a whole thing. So maybe I'd be questioning that one's got three dollars fifty for one cucumber. It's not going to get you far. Eight double two three, double oh is the number to call. I think the most shocking part about that chat with John was Petrol's two dollars fifty in Melbourne. I've just had a quick search of the raa petrol price app and yeah, it's two nineteen ninety nine, so yeah, call it to twenty. In most places around the state. There are a couple that are about two thirteen around Beverly and Flinders Park. You can get it for two dollars thirteen right now, but everywhere else it's up at that two dollars twenty. Mark eight double two to three, double O double oh is the number to call to talk to me about anything we've been discussing, or you can send me a text zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. I've got tickets to give away.
00:35:17
Speaker 1: Next five double A afternoons with Stacey Lee.
00:35:24
Speaker 2: Now, as we talk about ballot papers and parties and candidates leaving, it would be remissive me not to mention the now famous Democracy sausage. It's coming to a barbecue near you on election day. So if you're running a barbecue at a polling booth and you want some of David and Will's free lamb and rosemary Democracy sausages, you can register for them now at five double a dot com dot au. And this is all thanks to Najobi. It's from their award winning farm to your table. Najobi delivers premium fresh beef and lamb ethically locally at effortlessly. I'll get that word out najobi dot com dot au. Oh, I'm excited to try them lamb and rosemary. They're really appealing to my Greek food tendencies, aren't they. And thank you to Scott he sent through the photo of his receipt. It's true Continental cucumber three dollars fifty each on the receipt. That is shocking, Scott. Thank you for sending it through. But yes I would have screwed it up as well. Bruce is in Salisbury East. Good afternoon, Bruce.
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Speaker 17: Here you Stacey good. I can't understand all the paranoia from people. To start with, all of our fuel comes from Singapore, it doesn't come from the Middle East. And the oil that's used in their refineries in Singapore comes from Malaysia and also the USA. Now I've got all this paranoia and panic buying and all the rest of it. It's totally unnecessary. In fact, in Port Adelaide today there's a tanker in here unlighting film.
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Speaker 2: It's I'm with you, Bruce. I do not understand it. To me, it's just totally unnecessary. And to see people out with jerry cans and containers and filling them up with petrol. I just think, why you are the problem? Is it a Taylor Swift song?
00:37:27
Speaker 15: It is?
00:37:28
Speaker 2: It's it's me, Hi, I'm the problem. It's me. No, you are the problem if you're filling up a jerry can with petrol right now that you don't need. Yes, I agree with you, Bruce. Thank you. William Is in Adelaide, Hello, William, Hi.
00:37:42
Speaker 21: Stacey, how are you not too bad?
00:37:44
Speaker 14: Thanks?
00:37:45
Speaker 20: It's good.
00:37:45
Speaker 21: Just quickly. I'm just walking through a corridor.
00:37:47
Speaker 11: A bit of woolies but.
00:37:50
Speaker 21: I haven't had a chance to wish you, you know, congratulations on your baby and coming back here because i've been ever see since.
00:37:56
Speaker 2: Yes, it's been a while since we heard from you. Thanks, I'm back in Adelaide.
00:38:02
Speaker 21: Good good, Hey, just quickly. I just wanted to touch base with you, guys. I managed to have all I've got. I've got a chance to listen to David Spears today on on Your On the Show at twelve to.
00:38:15
Speaker 2: One conversations with Cornsey. It was interesting.
00:38:18
Speaker 21: Conversations with Cornsey.
00:38:19
Speaker 14: Look, I mean.
00:38:23
Speaker 21: I didn't think I supported the guy, but to hear his story kind of resonated with me a little bit because you know, I know people within my family that have had mental health issues and not so much drug habits or whatnot, whichever party of me to go around. But the fact that he was so open in his addressing the Gray it wasn't Graam, it was it was what.
00:38:46
Speaker 15: Is Cornsy's first name?
00:38:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is Graham, Corn's.
00:38:49
Speaker 15: Yep, it is Graham.
00:38:50
Speaker 21: So look, I'm pretty sure that people that were listening today it would have hit home to a few people. And I just wanted to say it was a great conversation I'm really proud that you guys have given that guy some time to actually, you know, voice his story over the radio, because you know, you just don't know what's going on behind closed doors in people's lives.
00:39:13
Speaker 2: No, thank you for the call, William. And I've got to say I thought it was very open and raw and honest as well, so I appreciate your call and your thoughts. If you heard David Spears interview with Cornsey, give us a call let me know what you thought. Eight double two three double O double OW. We'll have it on the five double A website so you can go back and re listen to it as well if you missed it. And I wonder if there was anyone in the seat of Black listening thinking okay because he is running this election. Thank you for that, William, appreciate it. Let's go to Mark Brindle Now, Hello, Mark.
00:39:48
Speaker 7: How are you good?
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Speaker 14: How are you doing well? I heard that conversation and I was impressed. I'll tell you something, Stacey. Before I was in Parliament, there was a lot of with alcoholics in Parliament. I'm not saying they weren't good members, but they were certainly alcoholics. And I suppose in my time, there was a bit of a problem with marijuana. You know, politicians represent society and there are these problems. The thing that intrigues me about David is, you know, they're all shaking their fingers at him and all the rest of it. I wonder, if you know drug testing was done in Parliament at the drop of the hat, whether there might be other people in there who use that white stuff because it appears to be the choice of an age group stacy, just as marijuana was in my time and alcohol was a couple of generations back.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's always surprised me that the one workplace not the one. I'm sure there are others, but that in Parliament we have a bar, that there is a bar to supply MP's alcohol at their place of work at any hour of the day. You know, pretty much you could be sitting until ten o'clock at night and go down and get yourself a bottle of wine. And that just has always shocked me.
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Speaker 14: And I can tell you without naming names, because I actually liked the people. There were one or two very colorful members of Parliament who there was nothing better than listening to them after dinner, because that had perhaps not too many, but that had just enough that their speeches were always very entertaining, but weren't necessarily weren't necessarily uninspired by what they'd consumed at dinner. I bet the only the thing I wanted to make I was fascinated with Connie and your interview with Connie. For this reason, if the minister and minister staff and other people aren't actually part of the Health Act, I really do wonder whether a crime hasn't been committed by in fact accessing material that they're not entitled to somebody. And even if you say, even if you say it's the minister's stuff, those people in law don't exist. The minister exists. The minister has a staff, and that staff can operate and exercise a lot of power, but only in the name of and on behalf of the Minister. Now, if are not covered by that Act, one wonders how they get access to information that clearly, by law they shouldn't be entitled to have. Does that mean, for instance, Stacy and I'm not knocking Chris Pickton at all, I think he's one of the better ministers, but does it actually mean that a minister, any minister, can go in and look at my personal health record for instance. You know where where is the line drawn? And there's certainly in law is the line Because just because I happened to be the Minister for Health doesn't give me carte blanche to know everybody's medical records or tell a doctor how to perform an operation or lots of things.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that too, Mark, and I had thought the same thing and wondered where the minister and how the minister or his office whoever. But as you say, in this case, the buck lies with the minister got that information from whether it was Stephen King's information, whether it was Monica Wolstad's information about the medicine that she was taking, that could only have come from someone in the department. So then that person who is working within Essay Health, what's happened to them? Is anyone being investigated within Essay Health. So I think you raise a good point. I've actually sent a whole heap of questions to say Health. I offered them the opportunity to come on the program and asked if there was someone available to do an interview. I haven't heard back, so when I do, I'll make sure I let you all know what I hear back from SSA Health about that. But yes, the buck stops with the minister here. He's accepted responsibility and apologized at least for the Stephen King case. But the question remains where did he get the information from and whoever it is that gave it to him was potentially breaking the law as well. So what's happening with them? Thank you, Mark, appreciate the call. It is time for the two o'clock news now. But as we head to the news, you know me, I like to give just something to do. He looks a bit bored there in the control room, So call now eight double two to three double O double oh is the number if you'd like to go along to see Jackson versus Jackson at Gluttney. I've got a double pass to give away home of the bigger shows this fringe Gluttony dot net dot au for all tickets, but call right now if you want a double pass. After the news, it's Real Estate Radio.
00:44:48
Speaker 1: Five Double A Afternoons with Stacy Lee.
00:44:52
Speaker 2: Good afternoon to you, and welcome to the second hour of the afternoon's program. Congratulations to Kay in Woodville. We're starting the hour off on a happy note. You've won the tickets to Jackson Versus Jackson at Gluttony. So well done to you, home of the biggest shows this fringe. If you missed out, don't worry. I still have a double pass to give away to Just Floyd celebrating fifty years of Pink Floyd. You can get your tickets at ticketmaster dot com. It's on at the THEBI on March twenty, or if you're lucky enough, you can get a double pass this afternoon. All you have to do is listen out for some Pink Floyd music and when you hear it, eight double two to three, double O, DOUBLEO. And that is also the number to use right now if you've got a real estate question.
00:45:36
Speaker 6: Five double A real Estate Radio brought to you by Toob and two for everything real Estate talk.
00:45:42
Speaker 14: To A too.
00:45:44
Speaker 2: Bronte Manuel joins me in the studio. Hello, Bronty, Hey, how you doing good? How are you very well?
00:45:49
Speaker 22: Thanks?
00:45:50
Speaker 2: We've been talking about what's happening in Iran a lot over the last ten days or so since it broke out, and we just had a discussion about what it means for petrol prices, what it means for fertilizer and transport costs, an increase in cyber attack potentials as well. What is it going to mean for our property market?
00:46:10
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I.
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Speaker 22: Think I think when you look at wars in general, they're an inflationary event, you know, typically speaking and typically governments will print money through those periods of time to pay for the millions and millions, if not billions of dollars per hour that they're burning to fight wars.
00:46:29
Speaker 12: Right, So.
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Speaker 22: I believe that it's going to be inflationary. So I think number one building homes or extensions renovations, although things have been pretty dire in that department. So if you think about there's been land releases that have been advised by government. They're going to bring services forward, which means that we can now begin to build some of these homes. But then a lot of those trades people have been pulled off of private work and are now going onto South road projects, They're going down to you know, work on the subs, you know, so there is so much government work that's going to pull them. There's discussions murmuring in the minds that they're going to have to ramp what they're paying people as they diversify out of iron ore and they go into copper and you know, maybe lift you know, the one hundred and sixty grand flying fly out to two fifty. So people just getting seriously pulled. You either get two twenty and work on the roads here and you don't have to work.
00:47:29
Speaker 2: Qualification to do that. Seriously, they get into mining.
00:47:33
Speaker 10: There's crazy stuff.
00:47:34
Speaker 22: Right, So people are getting pulled away from that, and you've got to spend two weeks away from your family.
00:47:38
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So so.
00:47:41
Speaker 22: If you can get the same money here on government projects, why wouldn't you, Right, So I guess that's where there's all this forces pulling people out of that sector, and then we accompany that by you know, the costs of there's going to be lots of things like cement and you know, machines that run on fuel and like generate, Like everything's going to potentially change. So I think worst case scenario, building hous is going to get really really expensive really quick. So I guess you know, if you can get onto a fixed contract sooner than later, or if you're looking at doing things to your home, you might want to do that sooner than later. With the actual property market will when it costs more to replace a home as long as there's cash flow coming in from people and the affordability remains. The more it costs to build a home, the more people pay for a home that's been lived in. Like, it's just kind of how it works, right, So I believe our property market will unless there's anything that really really changes people affordable, like huge job loss as unemployment rates. Unless there's anything like that that you know, rears its head, I think the property market will will continue to go up, which some people you want to hear and some people don't want to hear. Further More to that, I guess the question is if inflation and it runs heavier, typically in that environment isolated away from war, you would go, Okay, what's going to happen to interest rates are going to go up? But off air as you mentioned that, they haven't sort of typically lifted rates during periods of war. So will that happen?
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Speaker 2: Will that not?
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Speaker 22: You know, so that could put a handbrake on the market if they lift. If inflation goes up, and proportionately to inflation, they raise interest rates, that would most definitely, you know, be a challenge for the market because a lot of people paying a lot as it is.
00:49:34
Speaker 2: I was just going to say, because I think there's a Reserve Bank decision next week and then not again. I'll have to triple check this, but not again for two months. So they do one next week, and I would have thought if this thing's still going in Iran, maybe there would that maybe there would be enough uncertainty there that they'd keep rates on hold. And then you'd think two months is enough breathing space, enough breathing time to get a real stock of the situation and make a decision on inflation from there. But who knows, Stranger things have happened. Hard.
00:50:03
Speaker 10: It's a hard one.
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Speaker 22: I don't know, like I think other than the uncertainty, which is obviously a significant reason. Yes, you would just have to think rates are going up, not that not that that's what I want right, No, but yeah, it's going to be an interesting one, and to be honest, I just wouldn't want to be the person making that decision.
00:50:24
Speaker 14: Yep.
00:50:24
Speaker 2: So there's a meeting on the seventeenth of March with a decision which, depending on what way it goes, could be good or bad for the state election a few days later on the twenty first, and then the next one is not until the start of May, fifth of May, so yeah, a month and a half after I guess.
00:50:42
Speaker 9: I guess we'll have to wait and see interesting.
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Speaker 22: Yeah, we'll find out. But look, I think all in all, the property market as we speak right now today is is it's crazy, it is strong. You know, there was a report that came out with effective had ten percent less stock on market year on year for the last five years. Over the last five years, we've tipped ninety percent growth five years. Yeah, ninety percent in five years.
00:51:15
Speaker 2: That's usually a stat you'd see over a twenty.
00:51:17
Speaker 22: Year period or something nearly doubled yeap, So we've nearly doubled and twenty two days on market at the moment. So we're the fastest selling state in Australia right now.
00:51:28
Speaker 2: And I want to explore that in just a couple moments. But if you've got a question for Bronte eight, double two to three, double O double OW is the number to call if you have a bit of a more detailed question, and it's to do with you know, financeers and selling and what your specific property might be worth. Bronti and the Tupe and Too real estate team will be in the real Estate Lounge after the show from two thirty to three, so they can answer your more personal questions then. But if you've got a general question about the state of the property market right now, is now a good time for you to buy or lle get on the phone now and ask him. Eight double two three double O double O.
00:52:04
Speaker 6: Five Double A afternoons with Stacy.
00:52:07
Speaker 2: Lee seventeen minutes past two Here on five double A. We are in the middle of it real Estate Radio with Bronte Manual from toop and Tops. So if you've got a question for him about buying or selling or renting, eight double two three double oh is the number to call. Before the break, Bronte, you mentioned that homes in Adelaide are selling quicker than in any other capital city across the country. Again, I don't know if this is good news or bad news. But why do you think it's happening.
00:52:40
Speaker 22: Well, I think it's a supply and a demand. So supply is low, demand is high, and people are just jumping. You know, there was a scenario and I can't go into specific details, but I had a buyer that effectively, you know, had a very very strict budget, and I know these are big numbers, but it just gives perspective. He had a very strict budget of two point five million and he went to two point five eight on a property that he was very very confident that wasn't worth that, but he just wanted to secure it. The property sold significantly more significantly more so, he has just paid three million for a property that had been on the market for two weeks because he just didn't want to miss out anymore. So he's found an extra half a million dollars beyond. He's had to shuffle things and then just fight a shot immediately when a property came up. That's what you call buyer exhaustion. He's been in this market though for eight months. Oh, misses out on one, two weeks later, seize one, bang on on. So there's people like that that are just going, oh my gosh, we've started this year. This year we were hoping, or when I say we, buyers were hoping for a slower year. They've seen one crazy result, two crazy results, three crazy results. Now I'm in fomo. I need to do something, and they just walk in. And the craziest thing is that literally I would average, I honestly think I would average twenty minutes per property is how long the buyer that buys the property would be in that home for, really, twenty.
00:54:19
Speaker 2: Minutes, twenty minutes, twenty minutes.
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Speaker 22: Matter of speaking, if you come once to the property, he might be there for ten or fifteen minutes, yep, so be it. The second time, he might be there for five or ten. And I know I've just now hit twenty five thirty minutes exceeded for twenty. If I see you a third time, I'm getting nervous. If I see a fourth time, categorically you're not buying that property. Oh you're not buying it categorically the longer you spend in it. First time, yeah, beautiful, awesome. Second time you've started to choose where your beds and furniture going to go. Third time, yeah, I wonder what I'm not happy with? Fourth time? What's wrong with it? Looking through different eyes at different times. So if I see you a fourth time, as much as you might think you're thinking you're keen, I literally would turn to Jess Kelsey whoever's in that house with me, Jenna, and I'll be like, bugger, they've been through four times.
00:55:10
Speaker 12: This is not looking good.
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Speaker 22: And nearly every time they're not buying it.
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Speaker 2: That's super interesting. I would have thought it was the other way around. The more time someone comes to a home is yet the more they want to check it out, measure things. They want to say, Okay, is there enough room in here for the two kids? Or are we going to have to split rooms? What's going on?
00:55:29
Speaker 22: They talk themselves out of it. And you know when I also see someone with a clipboard, So people would come in with a clipboard and they'd take just general people, yeah, with like notes of the clipboard.
00:55:40
Speaker 9: Yeah.
00:55:40
Speaker 22: The problem with people, that's the problem with the clipboard type personality is that they know everything about the market. So they're looking in a revision mirror, looking at what every single property in the past has sold for. So they're hindered on what they're going to offer on this property. And they'll be in the market for two years and they'll be always just paying. They will always be offering ten to twenty grand less than the top offerer, and then when they finally buy in two years time, they've just spent four hundred grand more than they could have two years ago.
00:56:09
Speaker 2: Two years ago.
00:56:10
Speaker 22: Whereas someone that's a little bit reckless something it sounds really crazy, just comes in and shoots the lights out, but then within a year it's exceeded their expectations. So they over analyzed four times. Clipboard working at can quote every sale in the area, which, you know, the craziest thing with real estate. If you don't pay more than everyone else, guess what, you don't get the property.
00:56:34
Speaker 2: You don't get the property.
00:56:35
Speaker 22: So people are fearful of paying more than everyone else. So like, yeah, that's the point. You have to pay more otherwise you don't get it.
00:56:41
Speaker 2: That's that's funny because that reminds me of my husband. He never held a clipboard. He took notes on his phone, but because he's a property valuer when we were looking for houses, he would go in with that mentality. He already knew what the recent sales in the area were, and what the average cost per square meter was and what the average backard size, well the stats he knew at all. And I just went in and I was like, this is nice. I want this one. He'd have a million reasons why this house isn't perfect for us, and I'd just go But I really like the leadlines.
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Speaker 22: It's funny, but you got there by the sound yeah, we did eventually. Yeah, it's interesting. And then when we're selling property. So when we sell, I know that if you overprice the property, it really hinders where you end up. So I actually whip for our own houses. If I sell, I'm really conservative because I want, you know, to make sure we get lots of people there. And Jen is super ambitious, right, like super ambitious on what she wants to achieve. We typically always get what Jen wants to achieve. But I still maintain it's only because we were conservative under my strategy.
00:57:51
Speaker 2: That's where the team comes in.
00:57:53
Speaker 22: We are so opposite Jenna, but we're going to get this, and I'll be like, no, we're not. We need to price accordingly them every time we sell it. I'm happy where we got to, but then I'm upset that Jen says, cz I was right, I told you you're the agent, but I was right.
00:58:09
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, but it was a strategy.
00:58:11
Speaker 9: That's just it.
00:58:12
Speaker 2: Okay, But looking at that strategy, because sometimes that annoys people who are buying a house to in their mind under quote or price it at a price where it's just definitely not going to go for that price, and it's it's lower than what the vendor wants to sell it for and that sometimes annoys buyers. So tell us that the reasoning why some agents might do that.
00:58:34
Speaker 22: Yes, so I think there's definitely a threshold on it, right. So the way I would determine that is if there is a property similar to yours that sold next to you for a million dollars, and you have an agent come in and go, okay, well let's put nine hundred on yours or eight hundred on yours, the one next to yourself for a million, is like if it's similar or the same, like, that's just leading people up the garden path, right. The reason people so I don't agree with that. The reason people would do it is because there would be people that you might get fifty people through that home, because people will be like, oh my gosh, the one's self for a million next door, and they're selling this one for eight hundred. Even if I pay nine to twenty, which is one hundred and twenty more than they're asking, that's better. And then what happens You get fifty groups through and you've got five people that think it's worth the same as next door, which is a million, but they see the other forty five groups through that have got a budget of nine hundred and less, but they don't know that they've got a budget of nine hundred or less. They just assume the other forty five groups think it's worth over a million, like they do, and then they fight it out and they pay one point one one point two.
00:59:36
Speaker 2: So it's about creating a frenzy, having a lot of people there. So the buyers look at all the other potential buyers and say, all right, we need to spend big because other people are interested in this property.
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Speaker 22: Well that's the theory. I mean, if you look at a car, I've never ever ever seen a car advertised with all the add ons. I've only ever seen the base car advertised for thirty nine nine ninety. And then you drive in there and you go for a test drive, and they said, oh yeah, this one's got twenty grands worth of add ons because it's got the leather seats, and this one's got duel air conditioning instead of single, it's got Apple car play, it's got this, it's got that, it's got tint, it's got immetallic pains, and it's got wheels, And you go, well, I want this one. Now, you went in at thirty nine, nine ninety. If they advertised it at sixty grand, you may never walk through the door. So when you go to a car dealership, it's all about bums on seats. They just want people test driving cars because once they're test driving it, they fall in love, they realize they need a new car, and then paying the money's secondary.
01:00:32
Speaker 10: To all of it.
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Speaker 22: Real estate's similar. You want people to get through the door, but you don't want to be silly about it, right Because to the flip note of what I just said, Stace is someone it's advertised for eight hundred. Someone's got a budget of nine hundred. They spend five hundred dollars on a building inspection, five hundred on a pest expansion, thinking oh, if we pay one hundred more than what the've advertised, will get it, and it goes for one to one. They were never in contention. They just blew a thousand dollars of their money.
01:00:57
Speaker 2: I know. So that's why bayers get annoyed.
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Speaker 22: That's the bad part.
01:01:01
Speaker 10: I guess.
01:01:01
Speaker 22: My point is if there was a million, if our neighbors sold for a million, Jen would want to price hours at one point four And I'm going no, no, no, it needs to be a million.
01:01:10
Speaker 12: You know what I mean.
01:01:11
Speaker 10: That's sticking servative.
01:01:12
Speaker 2: So you're not you're yeah, and I wasn't saying you're an agent that under quotes.
01:01:16
Speaker 22: But there are Oh it's rife.
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Speaker 2: There are a lot out there.
01:01:19
Speaker 22: Well, like I guess when I moved to the city, because you think about country real estate. Oh yeah, if you want a million dollars, you put one point two on it and if someone comes off and then they knock you down to a million. You know, if you had a property advertised for a million and someone offered you one point one in the country, you'd go, Okay, this is fishy. Something's wrong with this person. I don't know if this is real. They've just offered one hundred grand more than what we've advertised it for. I don't think we deal with this person anymore. Like there's no way, right, if someone is a million and they offer you seven hundred, you're offended. But if they offer you nine hundred, oh that was a good first offer.
01:01:55
Speaker 8: Yeah.
01:01:55
Speaker 22: No, we're getting somewhere here, and you get a deal done in the city.
01:01:59
Speaker 9: I'll move here.
01:01:59
Speaker 22: And then you hear people at these industry events going, yeah, yeah.
01:02:03
Speaker 12: Yeah.
01:02:03
Speaker 2: Quote low make dough.
01:02:05
Speaker 13: Oh.
01:02:06
Speaker 2: Quote low make dough yeah.
01:02:07
Speaker 10: Quote high watch it die. Oh.
01:02:09
Speaker 2: I've never heard these.
01:02:11
Speaker 22: It's like real these This is like old school. Yeah, old school with this cloakroom cigars and smoking.
01:02:18
Speaker 2: In the back of the car. That is what people used to say, dough bronte.
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Speaker 9: I'm like, why would you?
01:02:23
Speaker 22: So I'm coming here, so I'm coming from one direction and then I'm going with I don't understand, like why would people? And then they talk about the frenzy and the big pyramid and all the people going up into it. So look, at the end of the day, I think pricing your property right and looking at comparables and looking at where the market's been for what you're pricing that you know you may end up in a different position because we are, you know, it's moving forward. That doesn't determine the future, but it shows where the past has been. But a lot of properties that do into the market are above where other sales have been. So I think just really take your agent's advice on that. But if you've been through the property across the road that's sold for a million, and you know your property without being biased, because everyone thinks their home is better, but without being biased, just thinking ours is similar. If an agent's telling you to price it two hundred ground less, well then they're probably they may make you the money, but they may also annoy a lot of people because that's it's categorically underquoting if the data is there.
01:03:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, there are rules against some underquoting, aren't there.
01:03:31
Speaker 22: There always a ten percent so that effectively, if you advertise that at nine, you can't set your reserve any higher than nine to ninety.
01:03:40
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's the auctions only though.
01:03:42
Speaker 22: That's for auctions, And I always run on a very like I say to my owner, like very much ethically as well, if we receive an offer ten percent above on the offered closing date or the auction date, because you might receive an offer two hundred grand above after the first week and they might decline it. But they're not always declining the money. They're declining it because they want the guy from Singapore to fly in next Saturday that's being booked in. You know what I mean That they're turning down the process, not the money because they've only had one open, but on the day that it closes on auction and contract. If we get an off within ten percent. I say to my owners, we need to be doing something otherwise we're letting people up the garden path.
01:04:25
Speaker 2: Well and truly right, it's a lot to consider. Tom on the text line with a car dealership, you know what you have to spend to buy it. Try getting a firm buy price from a real estate agent. And how much warranty do they give you? Give you give you for your million dollars? Zero? Well, the warranty is.
01:04:46
Speaker 22: Not to what Tom Tom to Tom's to Tom's point though, right, like Tom, I agree, So we always give a price. So Tom Tom literally would have been to an opening space action and says to the agent, Hey, stays, what are you looking at for this property?
01:05:05
Speaker 23: Oh?
01:05:05
Speaker 22: We're just waiting to see what the market says about it. Okay, So what do your owners want? Oh, well they're can you just see what the market says about it?
01:05:12
Speaker 12: Okay?
01:05:13
Speaker 22: Are you giving at indication of price? No, because we're keen to see the market feedback.
01:05:17
Speaker 7: First.
01:05:17
Speaker 22: Where do you think it's worth like.
01:05:19
Speaker 2: Four hundred thousand dollars?
01:05:21
Speaker 12: Oh?
01:05:21
Speaker 22: No, they wouldn't take that.
01:05:22
Speaker 9: What would they would they take?
01:05:24
Speaker 10: You get nowhere?
01:05:25
Speaker 12: Yeah?
01:05:25
Speaker 10: So what he's saying there.
01:05:27
Speaker 22: I mean if I walked in and said, oh, I want this pair of genes, how much are they?
01:05:30
Speaker 23: Oh?
01:05:30
Speaker 22: It just depends how many people that are from this month. Well I don't I want them today, So how much do you want for your genes? Yeah, try not to use profanity on radio, But I mean, like, I get what his frustration is. So we'll always give a price. But there are other times when we have to withhold stuff that we also don't want to, when we feel like we're in a tough spot and we're annoying people. But not giving prices at front doors. Really, I do believe critically annoys people not advertising a price. But when somebody calls up, you can give it to them or talk to them about it, I think is fair. But not giving it to them or talking to them about it when they request.
01:06:11
Speaker 2: It it turns people off.
01:06:13
Speaker 22: All it says to me is your owner wants too much and you don't want to scare them. Yeah, okay, that's what it says to me.
01:06:21
Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you Bronti. It's always interesting to chat. And then you go Tom. I thought Bronti was going to totally disagree with you there, but he agrees with you. Love it. Thanks Bronti, thank you. See you next week. That's Bronte Manual from Toop and twop and he'll step into the Real Estate Radio Lounge now. So if you've got a question off air, eight, double two three, double oh, double five is the number to call after news headlines though it's tech talk. So if you have a question for Richard, eight, double two three, double O, double oh, twenty seven minutes to three, here on five double A tech talk in just a few moments. But before we get there, let's go to the Bureau of Meeting Urology. Robert o'baniak is there.
01:07:02
Speaker 4: Hello, Robert, afternoon.
01:07:04
Speaker 2: What can we expect for the next few days.
01:07:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, so for this evening we can expect the winds to gradually go down. It has been a bit gusty today. The highest wind gust we got in the area was sixty three kilometers at in the morning, and right now the temperatures are sort of around twenty two degrees around Adelaide, but they will go down quite a bit between now and about nine or ten PM as that subtly float intensifies. They'll go down to about fifteen degrees and It will be a cool night tonight, unlike yesterday, so it will be pretty much around fourteen or thirteen degrees around the Adelaide area overnight, and then tomorrow it will be a cold today with tops of about twenty two to twenty three degrees, partley cloudy. There will be the slight chance of a shower wins at about twenty kilometers an hour, and then Friday will be a beautiful day, dry and sunny, top of about twenty five.
01:07:56
Speaker 2: All right, sounds good, Robert, looking forward to it. Definitely looking forward to a cooler night tonight. I don't know about you, but it was very warm last night anyway. Thank you appreciate the update. Robert Abanniac there at the Bureau of Meteorology.
01:08:09
Speaker 9: Pasco, Pasco. Can you turn it up then?
01:08:12
Speaker 14: Then?
01:08:13
Speaker 1: Can you turn it on again?
01:08:17
Speaker 2: Richard Pasco, Adelaide tech guy in the studio thanks to Harvey Norman Computers, your technology specialists.
01:08:23
Speaker 12: Hello Richard, Hello Stacey. I talked to a friend of mine this morning who said he was going through Golden Grave walking the dog. Yeah, it said rain fell from the sky.
01:08:34
Speaker 2: Where else would it fall from?
01:08:35
Speaker 12: But yeah, I know that, but I didn't believe, but sorry sprinklers at the time like that isn't I rain around?
01:08:44
Speaker 2: I don't think there's meant to be raised. Yeah, well there you go, lucky you, there we go, flucky blucky hin. Now you walked in, actually I should say you strutted in with a green MacBook under your eye. Us is the one that's just been released today.
01:09:02
Speaker 9: The MacBook Neo showing it off.
01:09:04
Speaker 12: So it's eight hundred and ninety nine dollars. That is a bargain price. Now you and I were discussing just quickly before we came my eme.
01:09:12
Speaker 2: You've heard what I saw a headline on an article. I didn't click it, but it said the Apple MacBook Neo smaller, slower, poorer or something. Whoever it was just saying it's slower and not as.
01:09:26
Speaker 12: One hundred and ninety nine dollars. What do people want? It is fine, Stacy. So it's only this short time, so you know it's it's they've got a good screen. I haven't turned up the turned up all the brightness, allow, nothing wrong with that. It runs office on there. It's got a sixteen hour battery life. I've said all this this morning. Was it full? When I started. When you set a laptop up, it really sucks the life out of the battery. I've still got sixty percent left. Oh wow for all the different things I've done. So there reckon sixty our battery. Lof what runs this is last year's iPhone processor.
01:10:04
Speaker 2: Oh so it's got a phone processor.
01:10:06
Speaker 12: Phone processor in there. And people say, well, I don't want a phone processor, but lots of laptops now around run phone processes.
01:10:15
Speaker 2: What would be the issue with a phone process Nothing? Why would people care?
01:10:18
Speaker 9: Super fast process.
01:10:20
Speaker 12: On your phone? Super fast and your phone can run a laptop like this. So it's good for web browsing, it's good for emails, it's good for office on there, it's good for streaming. The sound is good, the keyboard is lovely on there. I've had multiple things open. It's not as fast as my let's say, my three and a half thousand dollars MacBook Pro that I've got, but I'm not expecting that For eight ninety nine. This is a laptop that will help shape what we all get going down the track, because at that price, why do you want to go and buy a cheap, nasty laptop. And there's lots of those around and I get people all the time saying what should I buy? And I'm always well, you need to buy something that's like one thy twelve hundred when it's on special to get something to last you for years on there. So what happens with this eight hundred and ninety nine dollars one? And I think Apple's going to sell a lot of these?
01:11:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, well if it does the basics. I mean, all I use my laptop for is Microsoft Word a bit of web browsing, and that's it.
01:11:29
Speaker 12: That's it. You're a perfect candidate for one of these.
01:11:32
Speaker 2: And it comes in a lovely color.
01:11:34
Speaker 12: Comes a nice it's got a few colors, there's a pinkage color on there. Was never going to buy that one at all, but it's look, it runs really well. But what this is going to do is it's going to encourage all the other manufacturers out there to lift their game on low priced laptops because now people go along and go, should I have gone in and bought the cheap when those computer on there? And there's lots of good Windows computers are out there, but the really cheap, nasty one, which I'd say never ever buy on there or hang on eight ninety nine. I'm ast well going buy an Apple computer.
01:12:12
Speaker 2: Every UNI student in Adelaide will have one of those.
01:12:15
Speaker 12: I was telling you before. I was in a cafe when I was setting it up and there were three UNI students were serving in there was one other came over to the table because they noticed it. It's green. That stands out, doesn't it, Stacey? So and they went, is that the new one? And they have? They go, well, we're just going to go and buy one.
01:12:31
Speaker 9: Yep, so we roar again.
01:12:33
Speaker 2: You you're such an influencer for that.
01:12:35
Speaker 12: No, I'm not.
01:12:37
Speaker 2: Influencing people.
01:12:39
Speaker 12: Look I am for these sort of things. I don't want people buying the wrong thing.
01:12:43
Speaker 2: No, we appreciate it.
01:12:44
Speaker 12: That's all part of it. Bargain.
01:12:46
Speaker 2: There you go. Good, all right, gets Richard's tick of approval. By the way, Richard Chris in Surrey Downs is called in, he can confirm it did rain in Surrey Downs for a whole two minutes.
01:12:57
Speaker 9: There we go, Thank you, Chris.
01:12:59
Speaker 12: I'd be cheering at the bureau now.
01:13:02
Speaker 2: Thank you for that. All right.
01:13:05
Speaker 21: Now.
01:13:05
Speaker 2: We've talked about age verification on certain apps a lot recently because of the social media ban for under sixteen's and how terribly that's working. But anyway, we'll glide over that Australians are going to have to verify their age for different websites soon they are.
01:13:23
Speaker 12: I actually got a message on my phone on Monday asking me to verify my age from Apple, Oh, because of the apps, to make sure I can buy apps on there, because I've got AI apps on my phone and they want you to be eighteen to buy AI apps on your phone. Oh, so I had to go along confirm because I've got credit cards on my phone. They know how old I am, so it's literalistic. Click done, all verified. Now I've got a phone call as I was coming in here going I won't say who it is. Of course I can't browse certain content on the web, saying I've got to prove my age. Can you come and help me please?
01:14:04
Speaker 2: Oh what sort of content are we talking?
01:14:06
Speaker 12: I don't know, Stacy. Oh so adult adult content on the web. So you're going to get these pop ups on the web for all sorts of things, but not just adult content. It's a clip from a film that is rated R. I'm there because suddenly eighteen. Hang on a minute, you've got to be eighteen to go along and watch this. So you're going to have to verify your age, and I think it's going to be a bit of a show over the next few weeks when people go along and see this.
01:14:38
Speaker 2: How do they want you to verify your age?
01:14:40
Speaker 12: I'm glad you asked, Oh, Stacy, I'm there parental confirmation photo ID.
01:14:48
Speaker 2: So do I need to ring my mum?
01:14:50
Speaker 12: Ring your mom?
01:14:50
Speaker 2: Nina very.
01:14:54
Speaker 12: Facial age estimation?
01:14:56
Speaker 2: Oh that's rude.
01:14:57
Speaker 12: Yeah, I know that. I thought it was very rude.
01:14:59
Speaker 2: I don't want to anyone gets my age.
01:15:01
Speaker 12: Can you just say up to the camera, just hold there for a while. On their credit card checks, digital identity systems age inference from user activity. So if you're on young websites, they're going to be well hang on a minute for that, and third party vendors on there. But if websites don't do this again, it's another forty nine million dollar fine for them.
01:15:26
Speaker 2: So hold on back to how they want you to do it. Will you have to upload your driver's license or something?
01:15:32
Speaker 12: In some cases you might have to if you don't have enough verification on your phone.
01:15:37
Speaker 2: Oh but me and my tinfoil hat, I know I don't like to do.
01:15:41
Speaker 9: I wouldn't be doing it, So what's your advice.
01:15:48
Speaker 12: There's got to be other ways for them to do it. So at the moment again the facial age estimation, the last thing I would do is go along and upload a driver's license or a passport to these people online. No known adult website. You're not going to you know, and there's listens out there that you do this sort of thing.
01:16:07
Speaker 2: Well, Scott has sent a message. I won't read out the whole message. Thank you, Scott. He went on a website the other day and had to verify his age.
01:16:14
Speaker 12: Yes, it's going to happen for a lot of people. The first call here and this Blake wants me out there tomorrow to go along and fix this.
01:16:23
Speaker 2: Okay, all right. So if you're saying don't not upload your driver's license or your passport, yep.
01:16:29
Speaker 12: But if you've got credit cards, tap and go on your phone, you should be fine.
01:16:32
Speaker 2: You should be okay.
01:16:33
Speaker 12: Because they know Stacy's got a credit card authorized through the bank. You should be fine.
01:16:40
Speaker 2: What if you're not on your phone?
01:16:42
Speaker 12: Good luck?
01:16:43
Speaker 2: Oh god? Okay, all right, let's go to calls. Michelle is in Morphett Vale Hello, Michelle, Hi, Stacy, Hi, Richie, Hi, Michelle.
01:16:56
Speaker 18: I have a friend who has a vision, his vision in so we have an Opel Light five which is a big button because he needs a button. He can't have a smartphone. He has to have a dumb phone, right, So it's got buttons on it so that he can feel the buttons. He has light vision, but it is it's able to. But what my question is, when we buy a prepaid plan for him, are all coming with data? We don't want data, we don't need data, do you know? Oh God, don't say that, Richell. I'll go away.
01:17:47
Speaker 12: I'm just trying to think rapidly here, Michelle. Yeah, but they're all Society of the blind. They should be able to come along and help through that. They surely know some provider out there or have an arrangement some provider.
01:18:08
Speaker 18: Yes, that's a good idea, good idea, Richard. Otherwise, it's asked my children to search.
01:18:19
Speaker 12: No, they should be, and shame on them if they don't. I've got to say, it's not the first time I've heard that, Michelle. Michelle. I know he doesn't like doesn't need a smartphone, or doesn't want a smartphone. But fat people that are visioning paired, they are switching over to an iPhone or one of the new Android phones because they can talk to their phone and say, darl Richard, message Richard.
01:18:45
Speaker 2: Series, Yes, Siri will do it. But I turned on my SERI.
01:18:48
Speaker 12: Now the series are going off all over.
01:18:50
Speaker 2: The series going off.
01:18:51
Speaker 12: Sorry everyone, but you see what and you know you can go because he can talk to his phone. And you know, I spoke to somebody on the weekend who's got an Android phone and they're using Gemini really to run their phone now and ask all the different.
01:19:06
Speaker 18: Questions I did actually hear, Yes, I heard you on the weekend talking about Gemini, and so literally we've got this today to get him access in the outside world. Yes, because that's what he used to have until a situation eventuated that he was no longer able to use that phone. And so therefore we're fixing up hearing aids. We're fixing up a phone so that he has actual he's can be independent and he can have access to the outside world. So it's a band aid fixer now. But once he's hopefully home and we can set him up with a smartphone that will because I don't personally do it because I don't know how to do it. But my children and my husband do go oh hey, ring this person or ring to that person, and they do text by saying what it is.
01:20:13
Speaker 12: And then, Michelle, you've got to learn how to do it, all right, you really do, and I know it's hard and people feel like a bit of a goose doing it. Sometimes do it when you're in your car, you know, sit there and go hey dal Richard or you know, hey Daryl, Stacey. Don't because we're not going to pick up the phone. But forgetting about asking about the weather today, set a time. All of these sort of things can give people vision impairment, a new life.
01:20:41
Speaker 2: Here, some freedom.
01:20:43
Speaker 18: Great idea about ringing the Royal Soide Society for the Blind. I'm going to do that, Michelle. And yes, I just want this man to be available to his friends, and yeah, it's just giving him his independent back.
01:20:58
Speaker 2: Good on you. You're a good one. Thank you for ringing eight double two to three double O double oh is the number to call if you have a question. And we'll take some more questions after.
01:21:07
Speaker 6: This five double A Afternoons with Stacy Lee.
01:21:15
Speaker 2: Just a reminder that the twop and two experts are taking your calls off air now in the five double a real estate lounge until three o'clock. So if you've got a real estate question, eight double two to three double oh, double five is the number to call. But if you have a tech related question, Richard Pasco is in the studio and the number to talk to him is eight double two three double o double oh. Richard, we have a couple of text messages I might get to. This person says no, I actually cannot read all of them out. Thank you to those We've been talking about needing some ID to watch adult content, and I've never seen so many references to adult content on the text line, so appreciate that. Guys. Thank you, Caesar and Scott. Anyway, let's get back to the text messages I can read, Stacy, can you please ask Richard if he's able to come out to see me in my PC and fix some noisy fans. I have noisy fans.
01:22:11
Speaker 12: There we go. You can see that joke coming down more. Sorry, very good. Send me an email. I'll tell you where to take the computer to fix the noisy.
01:22:23
Speaker 9: Fans, but you should do if it's I.
01:22:26
Speaker 12: Can't stand computers. Have noisy fans coming out of them.
01:22:30
Speaker 9: You can fix that, or you can you put me no fans.
01:22:33
Speaker 2: No fans hot though?
01:22:37
Speaker 9: You sure?
01:22:37
Speaker 2: So, how does it not get hot?
01:22:39
Speaker 12: It's got little piping in it that make sure that the hot air goes out.
01:22:42
Speaker 2: Okay, fancy piping. And Margaret says about proving your age. A and Z is currently updating all of its info and asking for similar ID from me, even though I've been with them since the seventies.
01:22:56
Speaker 12: Now you're with me, don't you?
01:22:58
Speaker 2: Yes, hey, doing this much?
01:23:01
Speaker 12: Can you contact the said and just make sure they're actually sending that out?
01:23:08
Speaker 2: Leave it alone. I don't want to do it. I don't like anyone my own no touch wood now now I'll get there.
01:23:15
Speaker 12: So we got one that's had it, one that hasn't had it. So that's what I'm saying. That what the listener that's had it. Contact the am said directly yourself, because if that's come out on email.
01:23:27
Speaker 2: I thought you were being cheeky. Oh no, yeah, okay, this is actual advice.
01:23:32
Speaker 12: Yeah, advice on there, Yes, because if you know scammers at the moment, Stacy, you need to send us all your personal details and their date of birth. Blah blah blah for all of this and pretend it's the am said bank.
01:23:46
Speaker 2: So cal don't yet, don't click anything on that email. Just google the number for A and Z proper, proper customer. That's a great tip. There you go, Margaret, good luck with that one, and then let me know how you go. Yes, we've got a question on the phone line now. Martin is en Hampstead Garden Gardens. Hello Martin, Hello, how are you good? How are you good?
01:24:11
Speaker 17: Thanks?
01:24:11
Speaker 14: Good Richard.
01:24:13
Speaker 20: I've recently got a new mobile phone, but I'm having trouble with certain websites that says my numbers invalid, and I don't know.
01:24:21
Speaker 12: Why they're your numbers invalid.
01:24:24
Speaker 20: Yes, So the other day I went to the restaurant. You know, your order, you scan the QR code and your order and that sort of stuff. It just wouldn't accept my mobile and I'm not saying it's invalid.
01:24:34
Speaker 12: So and you're using it through the app?
01:24:40
Speaker 20: Yes, that's correct? Yes, correct?
01:24:41
Speaker 12: Which app?
01:24:44
Speaker 20: I couldn't tell you. It's just at the restaurant where you have I've got an Apple iPhone. But it's when you scan the QR code and then you put your order in and it sees your name, your credit card and all that, and then it says your mobile and I would not get to put the mobile number, and it says numbers invalid. And I've had that with issues a buying online stuff as well. And I don't know why that's weird.
01:25:03
Speaker 12: That that is quite strange. I've got to say, yeah, exactly.
01:25:08
Speaker 20: The some websites are accepting it and some don't. So I'm thinking, well, what's going on?
01:25:14
Speaker 12: And you just got a normal note, who's your provider belong? They should be fine? Yeah, correct, So when you scan it in it goes to the QR code on there. Does it open up a website?
01:25:28
Speaker 20: Yeah, it opens up their internal website and I put my name and.
01:25:32
Speaker 12: Which which brows? Which browses? Is it using Martin Chrome? Clear all your open tabs out of Chrome and reset it? All right?
01:25:43
Speaker 20: Okay, all right, I'll give that a crack.
01:25:46
Speaker 12: Not my might ring belong?
01:25:47
Speaker 20: And so what's going on? Yes, I don't know if my number had been used previously, and no.
01:25:51
Speaker 12: No, I reset it first.
01:25:53
Speaker 5: All right, okay, thank you very much, thank you, good luck, Martin.
01:25:58
Speaker 2: That's how in demand Richard is his phones even ringing while he's on the radio. We have time for one more quick call with Robin.
01:26:05
Speaker 24: Hello, Hi, just pulled over on the roads.
01:26:08
Speaker 15: I couldn't look it up.
01:26:09
Speaker 12: Well done, Robin.
01:26:11
Speaker 19: Is there an age ID card?
01:26:12
Speaker 3: My neighbor didn't have a license or a passport, but she.
01:26:15
Speaker 19: Had some age ID identification card she could get.
01:26:19
Speaker 2: Well, they usually do do that through service essay. Yeah, because if you're over eighteen but you don't have a driver's license, you can get one of those prevage.
01:26:27
Speaker 11: And she didn't have a passport either.
01:26:28
Speaker 12: Does she needs to prove she's over eighteen? Robin?
01:26:31
Speaker 15: Yeah? She did.
01:26:34
Speaker 12: Wow.
01:26:35
Speaker 21: So I don't know if it has a photo because that's the photo they do, Robin.
01:26:41
Speaker 24: Yep, so check that one out service essay.
01:26:45
Speaker 2: Oh okay, there you go, thanks Robin. She was giving us a tip.
01:26:48
Speaker 12: All good.
01:26:49
Speaker 2: They're twenty five bucks. I've just looked them up. Proof of age card. You have to get a photo taken, and they're twenty five dollars.
01:26:54
Speaker 9: Not bad.
01:26:55
Speaker 2: If you don't have a driver's license.
01:26:56
Speaker 12: You complained, wouldn't you? If you if you're well over eighteen to come along and say what I pay any money for going along and proving my age?
01:27:07
Speaker 2: All right? Richard, thank you for coming in.
01:27:09
Speaker 12: Thanks Stacy.
01:27:09
Speaker 2: I'll let you get back to That'll let you return the call now.
01:27:12
Speaker 9: All right, thanks taking No, he's a tech guy.
01:27:15
Speaker 2: Your phone's going off.
01:27:16
Speaker 9: That's fair enough for weekend.
01:27:18
Speaker 2: No, that's fine, thank you, Richard Pasco adelaide tech guy in the studio. Thanks to Harvey Norman Computers, your technology specialists. It's time for the three o'clock news. Now, after that, you're going to hear from Chris McDermott, who's announced he's leaving Sarah Game's Fair Go for All Australian's party. And then you'll hear from Sarah Game herself. He is the third person to announce he's leaving the party just in the last few months. So what's happening. What's his reasoning for leaving? I thought they were friends. Is this a friendship breakdown as well? What's gone on you'll find out next. Good afternoon to you, and welcome to the third and final hour of the Afternoon's Program. I'm Stacey Lee with you through until four o'clock and we are now live on the Facebook and YouTube live stream, so jump on and say hi, and there's a lot to talk about this half hour. We've been discussing throughout the afternoon. The big political story of the day Chris McDermott. He announced in January that he was going to run for parliament. He was joining Sarah Games Fair Go for All Australian's political party, and was running for the seat of Dunstan, Stephen Marshall's former seat in the Norwood area. Then it was announced that he was no longer going to run for Dunstan. He would be the party's lead candidate on the Upper House ticket. Now today the big news is that Chris McDermott has announced he is leaving the party and will run as an independent candidate. Very soon, you're going to hear from Sarah Game, the leader of the Fair Go for All Australians party, and I'd love your thoughts as well. Eight double two to three double o double oh. But let's start this hour with Chris McDermott, who joins you on the phone. Now, good afternoon, Chris, thanks you for.
01:29:00
Speaker 15: Your time, basically, thank you for having me.
01:29:03
Speaker 2: So why have you made this decision to leave the party?
01:29:07
Speaker 15: I think after the six or seven week campaign that we had shared, it just got to the stage where our differences were irreconcilable and just for context, I guess for your listeners. You know, Sarah and I have known each other for I guess almost four years. She was largely responsible for getting Little Heroes Foundation at two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a grant from the Labor government. Peter Malanauskas announced that in a joint press conference that we put to research for childhood dementia. And so you know, I'm very grateful and thankful for Sarah and what she's done, and I was happy to return the favor. As I told sir, whenever that opportunity, you're up and whatever it might be. That opportunity, from Sarah's perspective, was for me to run, as you said in your intro in Dunstan, which I was more than happy to do, not expecting to win, but you know, to run in the seat, give the fair Go Party some publicity, and just helped Sarah in that way. Twenty four hours later she approached me about with a change of thought. Instead, I liked you now to not do the lower house, but moving to the upper house. So I said, Sarah, your call you as I said, I'm happy to do what you asked me to do. That was the understand and so I followed the direction and moved to the upper House after six weeks of what I consider fairly hectic campaigning. So that's all right with it just got to breaking point last night and then the decision was formalized this morning.
01:31:05
Speaker 2: So you said, reconcilable differences, what are they over what?
01:31:12
Speaker 15: Over minimal? Minimal things? It's like how many stores break the camel's back, you know. Sarah thought I was hard to contact, albeit that I have a lady that's helping men has helped me with Sarah's full endorsement from day one, and so that was the direct point of contact. I'd put another person in to be that direct point of contact. I do have some responsibilities, you know, and I've made it very clear to Sarah. I have responsibility to Little Heroes Foundation that now is about to reach thirty years and forty million dollars. And I am one hundred percent devoted to those people that need my help and I will not abandon for any way, shape or form. And we thought we could do both, and I happily handed over the rains for the last six weeks, but stayed in as much contact as I could to make sure that I was on top of everything and try and balance than. We've been to Port Lincoln a couple of times, we've been to the Riverland. We've traveled the place trying to speak the community, speak the farmers, speak the people, and find out what their needs and wants are. I thought we were doing a pretty good job. Sarah had a different opinion about what the priorities should be, and that was more press related and media related rather than interactively related like we were doing.
01:32:46
Speaker 2: So it sounds like it wanted you to do more media yes, yes, and you weren't willing to no.
01:32:54
Speaker 14: No.
01:32:54
Speaker 11: I am.
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Speaker 15: To be fair. I've been on five Double a Brecky, I've been on with Graham Goodings. I've certainly been on with Leaf. I did speak to you early in the start in the campaign and said, look when you asked me to come on, I said, look, I'm on with Leaf and you said, quote unquote, that's okay, we'll speak to you late. Now. If you don't know that there's the direct exact words from your producer, don't worry about it. We'll speak to you later. So I've been on TV, I've done media, and there's no I always think there's that can be overkilled too as much as one as much meaning as you can there can be overkilled. So I'm I've been in and around the media for forty years. I do understand media and have some concepts. And you think you get sick of one voice if it's repeated too often. So I'm really mindful of that.
01:33:47
Speaker 2: And so you just mentioned that you know it was I guess it was hard to balance at times with your commitment to the Little Heroes Foundation, and you said you're one hundred percent devoted to it and to the people that need your help the foundation, and I think that a lot of people would see that and hear that and admire that. If you are to get elected, though, how will you be able to balance that one hundred percent devotion to the Little Heroes Foundation with your parliamentary requirements.
01:34:15
Speaker 15: I think you can have one hundred percent devotion to something and be working in another area, and that that is what I've been doing in the last seven weeks. I mean, just remember that this is a decision that got made in January, so it's not like it's been a lifelong ambition, A year long ambition of six months. It's been this year, so it's a very short space of time. And so I'm getting my staff ready for the what if. And we have to be prepared for the what if. Now the what if is is might be unlikely, but they've got to be prepared for the one if. So I've been getting them ready. We've been getting out our events readywhere ahead of time in that regard, so that they are ready, and I've got contingency plans if that should fall into place. But they just had to pick up the slack over the last six seven weeks and I've been happy to do so. And I've kept them up to speed with what my weekly or what weeks look like. So from the Little Hero's perspective and from the people that we look after, they have been well versed and they kept up to speed with what I'm doing.
01:35:25
Speaker 2: So, had you communicated these concerns with Sarah Game, that you were worried about those irreconcilable differences and that she was expecting too much.
01:35:34
Speaker 15: Of you, expecting too much of me. That's that's not what I said. That's that's your interpretation.
01:35:43
Speaker 23: She just said that said she wanted to Stacey please if I if you ask me the question, so if I can answer that it is about Sarah's requests, yeah, if they.
01:35:57
Speaker 15: If they are about me covering the stuff and introducing myself to people all over the States. I have done that, and some at my own expense, at my expense and my team's expense. We have paid for that, all of it. So I think to question my approach endeavors competency is a bit of a stretch, and I don't I don't agree with that statement at all. I have done everything I could possibly do to not only to endorse scare in your brand, but to try and be elected and to see what I mean in the end, if I'm elected, I'm serving the people. I'm not serving a party. I'm there to serve the people and their needs, and so I've been finding out for myself all over what those needs are. I think that's my job, my obligation to go in and see. You know, I heard you with your intros. What are my policy? Well?
01:37:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's my next question. What are when people who are voting for you, what are they voting for?
01:37:06
Speaker 15: Don't you? If I could, don't you think my policies should be their needs.
01:37:12
Speaker 25: Don't don't you.
01:37:13
Speaker 15: Think that is what a politician's role is is to If they are there to serve the people, then shouldn't you be responsible for what those demands are? What? What? What are the farmers needs? What are they wanted?
01:37:28
Speaker 2: You tell me, Chris, you're you're the one who says you're out there talking to people, So what are you policies? Those people who want to vote for you? What are they voting for?
01:37:37
Speaker 23: Stacy?
01:37:38
Speaker 15: Please to ask a.
01:37:41
Speaker 2: Simple question, and you seem very defensive. I'm not really understanding talking.
01:37:45
Speaker 15: Over me and keep keep trying. So I understand the radio technique of trying to antagonize me and get me upset, and I get all that stage. So I'm not into that. I am not into that at all. So if I can say, my job over the last six.
01:38:01
Speaker 25: Weeks is to find out what they want, what the needs do to understand the issue with the farmers and the dams that they've got to understand the issues are very elderly and.
01:38:12
Speaker 15: Their access to the right sort of care and to medical their access to medical needs if they're living in rural areas. I understand our the health of our children and what their needs are the issues at school and what the needs are with truan See and all that. So I get all that. But if you think that I have I'm coming in with a suite of policies that I am going to fight, that's wrong. That's not, that's not.
01:38:41
Speaker 2: You don't have any policies.
01:38:43
Speaker 15: I said from I said from day one. I said from day one that I am not a politician.
01:38:50
Speaker 2: And you're asking people to.
01:38:55
Speaker 15: Well are they Well, yes, if you.
01:38:57
Speaker 2: Want to be in parliament, that's the definition you'd be a politician.
01:39:01
Speaker 15: That might be the might be the definition Stacey, but it's not. I said. I'm there to fight for them, for their voice. That he's a largely unheard So if you want to stay with all the political retric that's fined in Ben, don't vote for me. But if you want a regular blow Joe blow in there that will fight for the people and their needs, then that's what I'm there to do. I'm there to fight for the people for what they want. And they have been very very responsive in answering those questions and coming forward and saying this is what we'd like, this is what we need.
01:39:37
Speaker 2: Okay, can I just pick up on something you mentioned earlier with staff that have been helping you out, and you mentioned the Little Heroes Foundation. Have you had staff from the foundation that have been paid through the foundation helping you with politics? And no.
01:39:57
Speaker 17: Stacey.
01:39:58
Speaker 15: Again, I did keep both of those very separate when I spoke to you, but when during this conversation, Little Heroes runs as its own there is nothing political or about them that There's never been anything political about Little Hero's Foundation.
01:40:15
Speaker 4: Just what I was.
01:40:16
Speaker 2: Clarifying because someone on the text line picked up on it, John and Colonel light Garden said it sounds like Little hero Stuff have been paying for electoral costs, So I wanted to clarify that.
01:40:25
Speaker 26: Is absolutely ridiculous, Okay, to roll that out backdoor fiction that interaction, with all due respect, that is quite disappointing for someone like you to suggest that of me with Little Heroes Foundation that was previously beginners McDermott over twenty nine years.
01:40:46
Speaker 2: I'm not suggesting anything, Chris McDermott. You've come on here to answer questions and I picked up on something that you've said, and you're well than welcome to answer the questions in whatever way you like, as you've just done well.
01:40:58
Speaker 15: I find that that that question to be extremely offensive and offensive not just to me, but the one hundreds and thousands of families that we've supported over twenty nine years and three hundred and sixty days.
01:41:12
Speaker 2: Okay, Chris mcdommot, just one more question. Is this your Malmaninger moment? A lot of people saw you put your hand up for politics, and now in this interview saying you don't have any policies and if you get elected to parliament you're not considered a politician, even though that's the very definition. What are you asking for people to vote for you for? What position will you have? How will you represent them? Can you explain that? Or is this your Malmaninger moment?
01:41:40
Speaker 15: How long did mail last?
01:41:43
Speaker 2: Not very long?
01:41:44
Speaker 14: How long?
01:41:45
Speaker 2: I think it was about a day, wasn't it.
01:41:47
Speaker 15: No, I'm asking you the question how long have you been to know about mal Let's just ask you how long did you last?
01:41:52
Speaker 2: Not long? Not very long?
01:41:54
Speaker 15: Well, not longer. That's the piece of sting.
01:41:58
Speaker 27: No.
01:41:58
Speaker 15: I stand the way stood for the last forty years, and people that through the Glenell Football Club, through the Adelaide Football Club, through South Australian and the South Australian team will know me, will understand me, would have heard me on radio for twenty years and heard me speak. And I am well enough known to everybody in South Australia that they will have an opinion of me now. And I understand fifty one percent all like you on forty nine percent one. That's fine. I'm not trying to swing anybody. I'm just telling them what I am, what I aim to do, and they will like it or they want They want me to be a politician, and I've said it before and I've said it to you and you will repeat it because I don't prefess politicians. I profess to be a South Australian that has got interests at heart.
01:42:52
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you for your time this afternoon. You're welcome. Okay, Chris McDon there, I think may have just hung up, getting huge response from lots of you on the text line. We have to take a quick break then. Henry Davis has called in, who was also a member of the Fair Go for All Australians party, and Sarah Game who's the leader of the party as well. You'll hear from her. That's coming up.
01:43:19
Speaker 6: Five Double A Afternoons with Stacy Lee.
01:43:24
Speaker 2: Well that was an interesting twenty minutes. And we're getting a lot of text messages from you about that interview with Chris McDermott zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. A lot of them I won't be able to read out. There's a few names in there, name calling. But anyway, let's go straight to Sarah Game. She is the leader of the Fair Go for All Australians party and she joins you this afternoon, Sarah Game, good afternoon to you.
01:43:50
Speaker 24: Good afternoon, Stacey.
01:43:53
Speaker 2: Were you aware of these irreconcilable differences that Chris McDermott said you two had, no, look, And.
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Speaker 24: I did try and listening to most of the interview, but I did miss the beginning of it, so no, look. The only differences that I was really aware of was, you know, pretty much, you know, Chris and I have been really good friends for the last number of years, and to me, that's the most upsetting and disappointing part about what's happened. We launched him, you know, I thought really successfully at the end of January and pretty much straight away at the start of February, there was a campaign team appointed that I didn't know and had no relationship with and I was essentially directed to, you know, communicate with them. I did just want to point out, you know, I understand, you know, Chris's obligations with Little Heroes and all the rest of it. I mean I never demanded he, you know, trapes around the country and or the state and do different things. You know, I knew he had those commitments. I guess all I really wanted from Chris that didn't happen was, you know, when I rung to pick the phone up and have that direct line of communication between Chris and I just sort of think, well, if he's got time to talk to the campaign team, he's got time to talk to me.
01:45:05
Speaker 2: And did you feel like he didn't have time to talk to you.
01:45:09
Speaker 24: Well, he just didn't.
01:45:10
Speaker 15: We just didn't talk.
01:45:11
Speaker 24: I mean, that's the thing. We've talked, very very I think it's been a really bizarre campaign, you know, for a number of reasons. But at the heart of it, you know, I had thought and you know, I didn't lay down many expectations when I had Chris join on, because you know, I was so at the time really grateful and respectful of Chris joining at all. And I think I've shown that in the conversations we've had. You know that for me, you know, Chris can can vote you know how he wants to. I was just grateful to have Chris on board. But I just guess I assumed we'd continue to communicate. I mean, if I ring the Premier, I mean, the Premier is very busy, you know, Peter melanousis I mean I have rung Peter during this campaign period about various things. He has called me back. Whereas when I would call Chris McDermott, my lead candidate, whose campaign we were you know, primarily funding through our electual you know funds, you know, I just wouldn't get called back. I mean, I think I said to you there was a period of about eleven days where I did call about six times and send multiple messages, you know, and I had no direct communication. I was directed to communicate to the campaign team.
01:46:22
Speaker 14: You know.
01:46:22
Speaker 24: I have to say, you know, on many occasions they were very, very helpful to me. But you know that didn't make up for the fact that really to run a successful campaign, it needs to be the parliamentarian and the candidate in regular communication so that they can plan their media, so that they can plan, you know, what their policies are and what they jointly agree on. I mean, I think that's one of the things that's been lacking, you know, in Chris's campaign.
01:46:45
Speaker 15: You know, I've been wanting to be.
01:46:46
Speaker 24: Very respectful to Chris not come out, you know, with things that he might you know, not agree with or might not align with him. And so I've kind of stepped back for my normal level of media engagement because I haven't had those discussions with him to really know, you know, what he would agree on and not agree on to come forward. And so I think, you know that policy promotion has been lacking, and I think South Australian taxpayers deserve to know that, you know, they deserve to know. Look, if I get elected, these are a few things you know that I promise I'm going to do for you, you know, and I don't think we've seen that. So I think you know that that. Yeah, that also from lack of communication Stacey. And it's been really unusual experience for me, to be honest, I'm kind of believed it's over.
01:47:33
Speaker 2: Are you the problem here? Sarah again has had this situation with Chris McDermott leaving the party the drama with you and Henry Davis. Jake hal Evans has left the party. Are you the problem?
01:47:48
Speaker 24: Well, I think look, I think what we're seeing is, you know, what happens in politics. I mean, unfortunately, you know, politics invites drama. I mean, certainly the fall out with him, I think I'm in you know, a list of people that you know might have had a disagreement with Henry. So generally with Henry, I you know, moved him on and he wasn't right for the party. But yeah, Jake looked. That was upsetting to me. And I don't know whether there'd been discussions you know, between Jake and Chris about them both leading actually because since Jake's departure. Another thing that I thought was really unusual was, you know, after Jake left and you know, text me at four fifty six pm on the Friday before the ballot draw with no indication ever that he would ever go. You know, I found that quiet a betrayal, and I was really disappointed to see Chris, my lead candidate, who we were supporting, you know, go and actually attend a number of functions with Jake and actually posts on social media. Look, you know, Jake's great, you know, vote Jake. You know, he's a principal person. And I did try to, you know, talk to Chris about that and say, you know, really maybe after the campaigns over, you know, and do that type of thing, but for now, you know, you just in my opinion, can't do that. So for me, in my opinion, that was an active disloyalty, you know, And really all I wanted from Chris was to remain loyal to me, have direct communication, and then really otherwise to just be himself. You know, I was happy with that. We had discussed, you know, that we were on the page, same page about a few things, and so you know, I didn't want to Yeah, I just wanted him to, you know, let him be himself. But you know, in terms of community engagement, I certainly support community engagement. I certainly support Chris doing community engagement. What I had tried to express to Chris was I just thought, with only a number of weeks left, you know, we needed to do more than that and come out you know, in the public with the media. But about what we were going to do, you know, for the taxpayer.
01:49:50
Speaker 2: All right, Well, news headlines is upon us, so I have to leave it there, but appreciate your time this afternoon, Sarah.
01:49:56
Speaker 24: Gain, thank you, thank you, Stacey.
01:50:00
Speaker 2: Fair Go for Australian's Leader, Sarah Game, there what a half hour of radio Okay, eight double two to three double O double oh is the number to call after these news headlines. Will take your calls. And we've had three former Fair Go for Australians candidates ring in, so we'll give them all. Let's let's let's give them all ninety seconds and they can tell us why they left the party. If they'd like to put them put their views across, we'll allow them to do it and you can as well. Eight double two to three double O double ow. Are you now more likely or less likely to vote for Chris McDermott after hearing that eight double two to three double O double oh is the number to call or you can send me a text. And I am getting a lot of them this afternoon. Zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. Philippas says, very interesting show today, and your questions were fair and to the point, John says, Chris for some reason seemed very angry with your reasonable questions. It was great listening though this person, however, says I found your interviewing style with Chris McDermott very aggressive. You were antagonistic and I thought you were baiting him. Well, there you go. I'm sorry you feel that way. I wouldn't say it's antagonistic. I would just say that that is a political interview. Maybe Chris McDermott hasn't had many political interviews over his lifetime, and I'm sure he hasn't because he's not in parliament. And I know there's a lot of people in the South Australian community who have a lot of respect for Chris for the work that he's done, and you know, for the sports hero that he was, particularly with his work with the Little Heroes Foundation and as do I But it doesn't mean that just because you're respected for different aspects of your work in the past, that you get a free ride into parliament. So if you want to be a politician, you have to answer questions and I think at the very least you should be able to tell South Australian voters what policies you have, what policy platforms you represent. If you're asking for people to vote for you, that's the very least you could do is tell them if you vote for me, I will do X y Z. But unfortunately Chris couldn't do that this afternoon. I was surprised by that. I was not expecting that interview to go the way it did. Anyway, since then, we've had a number of people call in. We've had three former candidates for the Fair go for Australian's Party. Henry Davis has called in. I'm going to give each of you a couple of minutes because we are very quickly running out of time here on the Afternoon's program. Henry Davis, Good afternoon to you.
01:52:28
Speaker 13: Thank you for having me.
01:52:29
Speaker 14: Sasy.
01:52:30
Speaker 2: So what you called in? What would you like to say?
01:52:33
Speaker 13: Look, I want to start by saying I really do empathize with Chris McDermott in this moment. I mean, it's pretty obviously has a lot going on, and he might not have felt like he was able to speak as freely as he could have. Chris is a genuinely decent person who's done a huge amount of South Australia through the Heroes Foundation, and I actually think he's been extremely respectful of Sarah throughout all of this. But I did want to call in defend Chris because what people are hearing day about. You know, what he did during the campaign doesn't reflect my experience when I was in the Fago tent. Chris, from what I can see, worked really hard. You know, he's traveled the state, he's spoken to communities, he's generally tried to make that campaign work. But I think the bigger issue here is a pattern we're now seeing. Now I left the campaign, Jake then became the lead candidate, then he left, and now Chris is left. Now, when three or more senior people walk away from the exact same campaign in just a matter of months, you know, that's not a coincidence. And in my experience, the campaign simply wasn't being led. Sarah wasn't president in the campaign in the way you would normally expect from someone who was the leader. You know, meetings weren't attended, communication was extremely poor, and the structure wasn't there from that side. So what's very concerning to me is that everyone else is being blamed. You know, this was me, then it's Jake, and now it's Chris. And I think at some point the leader has to take responsibility for the outcome, because campaigns only really work when the leader actually shows up case and actually runs an organized campaign, and unfortunately that wasn't happening when I was running with Sarah.
01:54:07
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Henry Davis, thank you for your time. Jake Hall Evans has also called in independent candidate for the seat of Colton, Jake Hale Evans. Good afternoon to you.
01:54:16
Speaker 27: That's Stacey.
01:54:17
Speaker 1: How are you good?
01:54:18
Speaker 2: Look don't I'm hesitant to take all these calls now because I don't want it to be a big pile on and Sarah game not have the opportunity to respond to each and every person. But what did you make of Chris mcdermot's interview.
01:54:29
Speaker 27: Yeah, Look, what I wanted to say is from my experience, Chris, not being a career politician, was really focused on going to meet people where they are, and that is something that I'm passionate about. And I just wanted to touch on the fact that, yes, even after I left fair Go, Chris kept his commitments to my community. He said he would show up and listen to their concerns, and that's what he did. I found that really honorable. It's above politics, and that's what people in my community are saying that they want. That's why I went Independent because they were saying, we just want someone who you know, quite frankly cuts the crap and represents us, listens to our concerns, represents what we want to see happening, rather than us being told. And you know, people are at the moment being told, We are hearing that there's going to be a landslide this election, and they are very worried that they're just going to be dismissed. And that's what Chris heard when he came and spoke to my community. From federal politicians to state politicians to local government, they were being ignored and there was no recourse for them. So that's what I think Chris was trying to get across. And I actually think it was really honorable that he kept his commitments not to me, but to the community that he and I said that we would meet.
01:55:49
Speaker 2: All right, Jake Cole Evans, thank you for your call. In this afternoon, Sarah McGrath has called in the Fair Gopher, Australian's candidate for Lee, although so not as of this morning, Is that right, Sarah mcgram.
01:56:04
Speaker 19: Good afternoon, Stacey. Yes, as of just after midday to day, I also tended my resignation for many of the same reasons that you have heard previously. I mean, I believe in the principle that we all agree and need a fair go and a fair and honest representation in politics. But contesting an election is you know, it needs more than good intentions. You know, it needs planning, It needs established processes, needs practical support for candidates on the ground and the organizational structure and that campaign support. It's not been forthcoming.
01:56:43
Speaker 14: For me.
01:56:43
Speaker 19: Integrity and accountability matter. This is where again with Chris, he has turned up to all of our required community events. He's been amazing with our community, as has Jake. These are things that are issues in our community in Lee.
01:57:01
Speaker 2: So it sounds if you get along, are you going to set up your own little party?
01:57:05
Speaker 19: I think we might of all have had enough of parties at this particular minute, but we yeah, we do because for us, it's not about the politics. It's about our people. You know, it's bigger than politics.
01:57:19
Speaker 7: What you do, you do it right.
01:57:20
Speaker 19: You do it because it's the right thing to do, not because it's the politically party line to.
01:57:27
Speaker 5: Travel.
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Speaker 2: Do you have policies or priorities that you're taking to the people of Lee or are you like Bone and you say no, I don't.
01:57:38
Speaker 19: No, absolutely, we like many on the ground here, we've got issues with the cost of living electric in the price of electricity, I think we should the state needs to own a gl at Torrens Island and so we don't have price scouting. We need to have some security in our electricity supply. There's serious issues when it comes to the Local Government Act, the way communities are consulted. We've got ongoing issues in Colton and in Lee for that. We've got issues with golf, with dredging, we've got issues with car parking and all these two and three into one and people are leaving. People have had to sell their houses because they can't get their cars in and out of their driveways. We've got issues with council rates and that. You know, it just seems like there's vanity projects for those in there and there's they don't listen. So in our communities on the ground, the people that we support, these are the issues that we're hearing from them.
01:58:40
Speaker 2: All right, thank you for your thoughts this afternoon.
01:58:43
Speaker 24: Thank you Stacy Sarah McGrath.
01:58:45
Speaker 2: They're now independent candidate for the seat of Lee she called in as well. This afternoon, time for your calls. Next eight double two to three double oh is the number tea and Mark says you handled that very well. This guy's a real piece of work. We reckon. He's just guaranteed that everyone listening will not vote for him. Wendy says, I won't use those words, Wendy, She said, it must have been difficult to be pleasant, though. Full marks to you for remaining a lady. Thank you, Wendy. Whereas this person says you cross the line. I reckon, Stacy, I think you were a bit rough on Chris, who has shown over a long period of time that he is a great ambassador for our community. All right, well, thank you for that. I think that's true. He has shown he's a great ambassador for our community. But I also think if you want to run for parliament, you should at least be able to tell people why you want their vote and probably answer some pretty basic questions. But yeah, seemed not possible today. Your thoughts next eight double two three double O double.
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Speaker 6: Ow five double A. Afternoons with Stacy Lee.
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Speaker 2: A big congratulations to Scott in Happy Valley. You have a double pass coming your way. To fifty years of Pink Floyd. It's on at the Thebby on the twentieth of March. Tickets are at ticketmaster dot com dot au or if you stay listening all week, I have more double passes to give away. Also, if you're listening on Friday, I am going to be broadcasting from the Adelaide Central Markets from one pm because Source Day is back at the Adelaide Central Market. It's on this Friday, the thirteenth and Saturday the fourteenth of March, so I'll be down there Friday afternoons celebrating. If you're in the area, come by and say hi. The markets has special offers on. There's lots of different food on offer. Traders have specials and sales on just for you, So come down and make an afternoon of it. I'd love to see you there, all right, eight double two to three double O double oh is the number to call to have your say. Lots of thought on that chat with Chris McDermott. Geraldine on the text line says, Chris is a wonderful, honest man. I helped raise money for his foundation many years ago. I could hear the hurt in his voice. Jen says, I he just what was this? He just wasted listening to you, Stacy. You didn't suggest little heroes have funded his run. You put our voices forward and he wasn't interested. I wonder if he's even listening to his constituents. I doubt it too busy puffing wind up his own behind and getting frustrated. It's a no from me, Paul says, Chris McDermott has no idea. It was far too aggressive. Bud of Hewitt says Chris McDermott is what the state needs, more support and the real needs of people. He now has to stand as an independent, whereas Marty disagrees. He says, I'm angry at Chris trying to blow his own trumpet. Absolute fool. He has lots of ground he needs to make up. Yes, smartin Chris has put me off, very disrespectful. Who does he think he is? Why is he angry with you? He ain't going to win any friends and this person Sarah again wanted Chris to campaign for her. She didn't care if he won. Good on him for standing up to her and standing up to you. All right, lots of thoughts this afternoon eight double two to three double ow is the number to call. Like I said, you know, I interview people in different ways, and interviewing politicians and different political aspirants is a slightly different interview to the leader of a charity organization. And I think most South Australians would expect that because as a politician you have the South Australian people to answer to. And if you're an aspiring politician and you want to be in Parliament, then you also I expect, and I think many voters expect, you also need to put forward your ideas. Why should I vote for you? Tell me what you stay and for so I have a reason to vote for you. But Chris McDermott couldn't do that. I just want to play you a little bit of the interview after three o'clock for the now independent candidate formerly running for the Fair Go for Australian's Party, Chris McDermott. He said, when I asked him about what policies he stands for.
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Speaker 15: If you think that I have, I'm coming in with a suite of policy that I am going to fight. That's wrong, that's not.
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Speaker 2: That's not You don't have any policies.
02:03:31
Speaker 15: I said, I said from day one. I said from day one that I am not a politician, and.
02:03:39
Speaker 2: You're asking people to vote for you to be a politician.
02:03:43
Speaker 15: Well are they?
02:03:44
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, if you want to be in parliament, that's the definition you'd be a politician.
02:03:49
Speaker 15: That might be the might be the definition, Stacey, but it's not. I said, I'm there to fight for them, for their voice that he's largely unheard. So if you wanted to with all the political red trick that's fined in, Ben, don't vote for me. But if you want a regular blow Joe blow in there that will fight for the people and their needs, then that's what I'm there to do.
02:04:13
Speaker 2: So what do you think? Lots of thoughts coming in on the text line, Marty, I'll see you at the market. He's coming down on Friday. Peter says, are you hand picking texts? You're out of line today, Peter, No, I've read out the text messages that have come through. I've read out pretty negative ones about me too, So you know I wouldn't just I wouldn't do that. But that's all right. You've got your views, Peter. You obviously listened to that interview from a different perspective, as Judy who said I was fair. So everyone's got their own opinion and that's absolutely fine. Timmy G and Rowie are on after four and Timmy G's in the studio. What do you stand for, Timmy G?
02:04:48
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm sitting down at the minute. Not my saying, not my saying. Stacy Lee, don't you take me down that path?
02:04:58
Speaker 2: I'll tell you he didn't like the malman Inger question.
02:05:01
Speaker 10: No, I didn't hear.
02:05:01
Speaker 12: I didn't hear any thing.
02:05:02
Speaker 10: Unfortunately, busily working on this year sports show.
02:05:05
Speaker 2: Fair enough tell us what's on after four?
02:05:09
Speaker 10: Well, Jimmy Bartell is rejoining us, of course, star Geelong player and Brownlow medalist, but he always gives us great insights into the game. Mitch Georgia Ardi's Port Adelaide's spearhead who kicked fifty eight goals last year, looking for another great season on the back of that one and hopefully leading the way up front for Port Adelaide. The Women's Australian Open is on at cojonger Yes starting tomorrow correct over the weekend, and James Suton, the CEO of that particular event and Australian Open as well, will give us an insight into who's playing, why they're playing, and who's going to win. And then we're going to ask this question about because Port Adelaide have released this gather round jumper you may have seen, Oh yes, I did the teal that that till and interesting design.
02:06:00
Speaker 9: Yes, and we're going to do like it to you.
02:06:02
Speaker 10: Well I'm just going to say that I understand why they do it. Would I wear it? No, simple as that. But yeah, we're gonna ask about your favorite jumper that you've got. Now, it could be any reason, could be one that you you got given, or could be one that you got signed by somebody special.
02:06:19
Speaker 2: Or you go there, you go, yeah that's Jimmy Jumpers or just general Foy.
02:06:26
Speaker 10: But that's all right. What where did the Flint Flamingos play.
02:06:29
Speaker 2: We got it on sale. It was It's beautiful and.
02:06:32
Speaker 10: Tink sounds like a Southern Football League team because they have bizarre days. The Ranella Wine Flies.
02:06:39
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, behind.
02:06:40
Speaker 10: That, the couple divers. They have great names down there. So the Vikings, yeah, they're excellent, they have great So maybe the Flamingos could join the Southern Footy League, but that's going to be a lot of fun and Neil Craig, ex Adelaide coach, nor Would and Sturt North Adelaide player. Before that coach, you had Lake Crows, a minor premier and they just fell short against the West Coast in two thousand and five. But he's coming on as where are they now? So we're going to get right into the history of Neil Craig. Should be an interesting one.
02:07:11
Speaker 2: Looking forward to it.
02:07:13
Speaker 10: And I am too and cheery Bardy. I shall stand and go out the room.
02:07:17
Speaker 2: Yes, good idea Rowe and Timmy g On. After four, I will also stand and go out of the room because my time is up. But thank you for your calls and your text messages today and I will talk to you at one o'clock tomorrow