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Welcome to real talk about the invisible work behind a UX career — work that is by turns extremely difficult and deeply personal. This isn’t the interview show it once was. It’s just me now, talking honestly about the stuff that rarely makes it into UX conference talks — dealing with impostor syndrome, setting boundaries, navigating politics, surviving bad managers, and growing into the designer you want to be.
If you’ve ever wondered if it’s just you... it’s not.
And if you've ever wondered if things can change...here's the proof that they can.
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PLEASE NOTE: I no longer interview guests.
Agents, please do not send me requests to have someone you're representing on the show. The answer is always going to be no.
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Update frequency:
biweekly
Average audio length:
38 minutes
English
United States
40 episodes
since Nov. 13, 2017
episodic
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You’re not going to like everyone you work with.
And some of them aren’t going to like you, either.
That doesn’t mean you can’t do good work together.
In this episode, Joe talks about what happens when you stop trying to win difficult people over and start treating their behavior for what it often…
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If you're not careful, being diplomatic can slowly, steadily turn into avoidance.In this episode, Joe talks about the trap of constant translation — softening problems, filtering dysfunction, and protecting others from discomfort — and why that keeps people (and teams) stuck.You’ll learn what …
Somewhere along the way, many of us start believing that our work is proof — proof that we're talented, valuable, or worthy of being in the room.In this episode, Joe explores why it's so easy to tie our identity to what we produce...and how that mindset leads us to defend artifacts instea…
Some of your absolute best work will be uninvited.
In this episode, Joe talks about proactive design — noticing what’s broken, fixing it thoughtfully... and doing the work even when it’s not “in scope.”
You’ll learn how to improve things without stepping on toes, why quiet initiative builds influen…
Even on your best day, your logic cannot defeat someone else's fear.
Understanding, however, can.In this episode, Joe explores why data, research and rational arguments fail when people feel threatened — and how that fear shows up disguised as resistance.You’ll learn how to lower stakes, build…
Good work doesn’t automatically win.In this episode, Joe explains why strong ideas still get ignored — and why influence, timing and relationships matter every bit as much as craft.You’ll hear about the “second game” happening in every organization, how ideas actually move and what it takes to make…
Outside of the one and only Vivianne Castillo, nobody tells you just how much emotional labor this job involves.
In this episode, Joe talks about the invisible work designers do every day — managing fear, insecurity, resistance, and ego — and how easily and quickly that turns into burnout.
You’ll l…
Having UX in your title doesn’t guarantee trust.
Nor, for that matter, does Senior, Lead, Manager, Director, VP or Chief Executive.
In this episode, Joe breaks down why UXers and product designers often struggle to be taken seriously — and what actually does build credibility in messy, political e…
There’s a moment in every career when it hits:
No one is coming to fix this for you.
In this episode, Joe talks about agency — what it really means, why helplessness fuels burnout — and how reclaiming control starts with small, deliberate actions.
Now, this isn’t just another tough-love rant, mind …
You don’t need a mandate to do the right thing.
In this episode, Joe challenges the idea that authority has to come before action.
He explains how waiting to be “allowed” is often what keeps people stuck — and how small, uninvited acts of improvement build credibility over time.
This is about initi…
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