The Path To Leadership
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The Path To Leadership
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ABOUT THIS PODCAST 🔗

Leadership should not feel like a lecture. It should feel like a conversation you actually want to be part of.


Welcome to The Path to Leadership, where Dr. Katie Ervin and creative strategist Rhonda Jolyean Hale team up to bring you real talk, real tools, and real transformation. Think of it as your weekly coffee date where leadership development meets creativity, brain science, humor, and the beauty found in both breakthroughs and breakdowns.


Dr. Katie brings the research, the practicality, and her signature no-fluff honesty. Rhonda Jolyean brings the creativity, the reinvention energy, and a fresh perspective on how your brain, your story, and your environment shape who you are as a leader. Together, they explore what it takes to grow, adapt, inspire, and stay human in a world that never slows down.


If you are leading people, leading projects, leading at home, or simply leading your own next chapter, this podcast gives you the mindset and momentum to do it with clarity, courage, and joy.


Because leadership is not about being perfect. It is about showing up, getting curious, and choosing who you want to be today.


Connect with the hosts:

Dr. Katie Ervin
www.katieervin.com
www.linkedin.com/in/katieervin/


Rhonda Jolyean Hale
www.jolyean.com
www.linkedin.com/in/rhondajhale/

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English
United States
122 episodes
since Aug. 7, 2023
episodic
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What If “High Achiever” Is A Leadership Problem, Not A Compliment

What If “High Achiever” Is A Leadership Problem, Not A Compliment

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Send us Fan Mail “High performer” sounds like a compliment, but it can become a leadership shortcut that quietly damages teams. We dig into why this label often means the same people get the best projects, the most visibility, and the fastest path upward, while others are left out for reasons that …
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What If Your Best Leadership Move Is Pausing

What If Your Best Leadership Move Is Pausing

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Send us Fan Mail You can feel it when you’re pushing too hard, but many leaders still treat rest like something you earn after everything is done. We decided to stop forcing it, took a real break, and came back with more energy, more ideas, and a better reminder of what sustainable leadership actua…
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End of Season: A Leadership Resource Roundup

End of Season: A Leadership Resource Roundup

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Send us Fan Mail A single question can change how you lead: “Was I giving you feedback or was I an asshole?” We start there, unpacking what it takes to notice when our “help” is really just control, and why self-awareness matters more than good intent when you are building trust at work. We also ta…
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You Might Be an A$$hole: Not all Feedback Is A Gift

You Might Be an A$$hole: Not all Feedback Is A Gift

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Send us Fan Mail Someone can sound “helpful” and still be out of line. We’re unpacking a messy leadership reality: feedback only helps when it’s grounded in intent, consent, and context. When it isn’t, it stops being a growth tool and turns into ego, control, or someone else’s personal preference d…
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World Cup Leadership Lessons From Kansas City

World Cup Leadership Lessons From Kansas City

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Send us Fan Mail The World Cup turns ordinary decisions into high-stakes leadership tests, and watching Kansas City host the world has made us think hard about what great teams actually do when things get messy. We do not have a guest this week, just an honest conversation about what we’ve seen beh…
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The Super Connector Playbook with Marc Shaffer

The Super Connector Playbook with Marc Shaffer

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Send us Fan Mail Networking has a reputation problem. Too many of us picture awkward name tags, forced small talk, and that sinking feeling that we’re being sold to. So we brought on someone who’s known across Kansas City for doing the exact opposite: Marc Shaffer, a financial planner and community…
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Love Isn't Soft: The Leadership Mistake That's Killing Performance

Love Isn't Soft: The Leadership Mistake That's Killing Performance

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Send us Fan Mail What if the most effective leadership strategy isn't tougher accountability, better technology, or another employee engagement initiative? What if it's love? Before you roll your eyes, stay with us. This week on Path to Leadership, Dr. Katie Ervin and Rhonda Jolyean sit d…
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The Stories in Your Head Are Running Your Leadership (Here's How to Rewrite Them)

The Stories in Your Head Are Running Your Leadership (Here's How to Rewrite Them)

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Send us Fan Mail Have you ever convinced yourself you were in trouble because a meeting got canceled? Assumed a teammate didn't care because they went quiet? Or created an entire worst-case scenario from one small piece of information? You're not alone. In this final episode of our Storie…
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What If Your Leadership Certainty Is Wrong

What If Your Leadership Certainty Is Wrong

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Send us Fan Mail You can’t lead well if you’re constantly guessing what people “meant”. We dig into the assumption trap that shows up in everyday leadership moments and turns normal human behaviour into labels like disengaged, difficult, lazy, or resistant. When we let those stories run the show, w…
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Stop Believing Every Thought

Stop Believing Every Thought

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Send us Fan Mail A single vague email can hijack your whole week, and your brain will swear it’s “just being realistic.” We sit down on a Friday afternoon and get honest about the stories we tell ourselves, where they come from, and why they feel so convincing, especially when we’re leading teams, …
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