Speaker 1: Welcome back to the wrestle Chat Podcast. What's going on? I'm the ant man flying solo this week. Michael is off. That means it's just me and you chatting. I'm excited about this though. I'm excited to hear what you think about this weekend's pl backlash. So leave your comments on each of these matches in the comment section here on YouTube. If you're watching, if you are listening on the free iHeartRadio Apple, We're on Spotify. Drop me a comment on our Instagram. It's at wrestle Chat podcast there on Instagram. We've got five matches lined up for the first post wrestle Mania forty one p l E. And let me tell you they're packing some serious heat and some huge, huge stakes up. First, we got a big one. It is the US title match between Jacob fat Iu La Night, Damian Priest, and Drew McIntyre. Now, this Fatal four way is shaping up to be a real barnburner. A doozy La Knight was the US champion heading into wressell Maania forty one, but he lost the title in a shocking moment when Jacob Faught two snagged that belt. I'll say a shocking moment. I think a lot of us thought, Okay, Jacoba Two's got a lot of momentum. I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves WrestleMania forty one with that championship, and that is exactly what happened. The loss left a lot of people wondering though, what's next for La Knight. Most would assume he'd get a rematch, right, a one on one rematch, but instead of a one on one shot, he's thrown into this multiman match with two other guys, Drew McIntyre and Damian Priest. They both think they're next in line for the US title, and you could feel La Knight's frustration, no doubt after losing his title in such a big match, I mean wrestle Mania forty one, it's the biggest you can get. The guy feels like, you know, he shouldn't have to fight two other challengers just to get a shot at that title once again. And honestly, I totally get where he's coming from. It's hard not to feel for him when he's just trying to, you know, get back to where he was before WrestleMania. Now on the flip side, Jacob Fatu is coming into this match with a ton of momentum, not just this matchup, but he went into Wrestle Media forty one with a ton of momentum. But then to add the US title to the mix, it's even more heading into backlash, he just captured that US title and it feels like he is on the rise, and no doubt he is. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see bigger things for Jacob Fatu down the road. You know, a future World WWE Championship run in his future. That's not out of the question. This is just the beginning for Jacob, and I think that the US title is the first step in his climb to his inevitable greatness. All the fans they're backing Jacob Fatu as well, and so is the company. So I really can't see the title slipping away from from Jacob anytime soon. Fatwo's a beast and a fatal four way match that's only going to help solidify his place there at the top. But now let me ask you a question, what about La Knight. I mean, you talk about momentum, this guy's had it. What's this multiman match going to do for that momentum. Honestly, it's a bit of a tricky spot. I mean, he's not getting his one on one rematch. You know, when the when, the when the champ loses, the next match is supposed to be a rematch, and it was always a thing back in the day of it being in the contract. You get the you get the first shot at getting that title back, and instead La Knight is fighting for his chance in a match that kind of feels more like a roadblock. I mean, if La Knight doesn't come out on top here, I want to know where that kind of leaves him the company. He's built his whole persona on that no nonsense, you know, brash attitude, very stone cold, Steve Austin like. But you know, this match could be a real test to see if he can maintain that momentum even without the title around his waist. Now, one thing's for sure, LA's not the type to back down from a fight, and this match it's going to show us what's next for him, for better or for worse. Now, let's talk about the two other guys we've got, Drew McIntyre and Damian Priest. They're both bringing a little drama Actually they're bringing a lot of drama to this match. These two have, they have personal history that goes beyond the title picture, and honestly, their tension could end up being a highlight of this match, or it could be a distraction too. It's kind of weird to see, I mean, why they're even in this match. Both of them feel like they're well, they're kind of just there. I mean, it's kind of like these two have a few they're being stuck into this to this this fight for the title between La Knight and Jacoba two. But regardless of how they ended up there, this fatal four way US title match at Backlash this Saturday shape it up to be unpredictable and just a heck of a roller coaster ride. Now, if I had to guess, I think Jacoba two walks away still holding onto that US title. I'd love to know what you think, Jacoba two. Will he retain or will we see a new champion in either La Knight, Damian Priest or Drew McIntyre. Will find out on Saturday. Now, next up, we've got what might be one of the most personal and I mean and heated matches I think of the night. This is Gunther versus Pat McAfee. This one's been brewing for a little while and it's definitely a match to watch. It all started when guntherer attacked Michael Cole on the raw after WrestleMania forty one. Why did Gunther do that? It all stemmed from a comment that Michael Cole made about Gunther tapping out to Jay Uso at wrestle Mania ended up costing Guthro the world title, of course, and Gunther being Gunther, didn't just sit back and let it all slide. He took action and abused Michael Cole. But that's when Pat McAfee said no, no, no, no, not gonna do that to the goat, and he jumped in. That attack wasn't just random. Gunther took it a step further and left Pat McAfee actually unconscious, choking him out their at ringside, which obviously kicked this whole thing into high gear. And let's be real, Pat McAfee's not the type to just roll over and take it. No, no, no. He came back with a vengeance and an incredible promo. Pat didn't just come to Cole's rescue that night, but he also cut a fiery promo the next Monday, making it clear that Gunther was going to pay. He's going to pay for what he did to Michael Cole with SmackDown GM. Nick altis stepping in to make this match actually official. He was filming in that night. McAfee made sure everyone knew that no one, no one messes with the Goat Michael Cole. I mean, that guy's been the voice of so many matches and so many memories. This is about more than just defending a colleague. It's a battle for pride and respect, and I think we're going to see that in this match. The crowd absolutely electric when they made that announcement, in Pat's words, set the tone for the most personal matchup of the night. Now, Pat McAfee's no slouch when it comes to getting into the ring. You know, we've seen him throw down before, even at WrestleMania, and he's proven time and time again that he's more than capable of hanging with some of the best in the business. But let's be honest, this is Gunh. We're talking about Gunh an absolute machine. This guy has been dominant as the Intercontinental champion. As a matter of fact, he's the longest raining Intercontinental Champion and his raw power, his submission game, his intensity. It makes him one of the most dangerous guys in WWE right now. Gunther is not someone that you want to underestimate, and I certainly hope that Pat McAfee's emotions aren't causing him to underestimate Gunter. As much as I love Pat his energy and his charisma, this match feels like Gunther's. It's Gunther's to lose. Don't get me wrong. I mean Pat's going to put up a heck of a fight, but I'm expecting, and I'm betting maybe you do too, that Gunher is going to get a win here in this match, probably locking in a brutal submission to make Pat tap out. I think that's how the whole thing ends. You tell me if I'm on the right track or if you have a different opinion. I would love to hear it. Drop a comment if you're watching right now on YouTube or hit me up on Instagram. It's at wrestle Chat podcast. Hey, I want to tell you that you could win Netflix for an entire year. Not only are we here on YouTube this is where you're watching right now, but we're also on well everywhere you can listen. 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Okay, so jump over to wrestle chatpodcast dot com. That'll walk you through the whole thing and you could end up with Netflix for an entire year on us. All right, swallow here and get back to this Penta versus Dirty dumb Our next match, This one for the Intercontinental title. This one's got all the ingredients for a classic showdown. I have loved Penta being in addition to WWE. Penta had his eyes on that I see title well before WrestleMania, and though he didn't win it in that chaotic fatal four way match at WrestleMania forty one, he's not giving up on this goal. And I think we will see that strap around Pentu's waste at some point. Now, is it going to be this weekend at Backlash? I don't know. Let's let's go over some of this. This time. He's getting his one on one shot. The WrestleMania match a fatal four way, this being a one on one shot at least that's what it looks like on the surface. And I say that kind of tongue in cheek here because although Dirty Dom's got the judgment Day always backing him up, So I wonder how that's going to come into play at Backlash. And we know that Dom thrives when his stable mates are in his corner. I mean, if you're not cheating. You're not trying, right, Pentus got an ace up his sleeve though his brother Ray Finnix, he is now in WWE, was all him make his debut for WrestleMania against Grande El Grande Americano. I just got to remember my drink from Starbucks and I remember his name. I mean that could actually, you know, Phoenix being here could be the game changer in this match, because you've got all this turmoil going on the outside, or maybe some interference headed headed its way into the match. It was up to Dirty Dom. Of course he's going to do that, but maybe Ray could be there to help ward some of that off. Let's see Pensus hungary for this Golden with Ray potentially having his back. Now they haven't said anything about that. We just kind of see them starting to have some interactions, but it could. It could turn things at least back to even maybe Dirty Dom might have the judgment day. But Pentis got the Luca brothers and that's a force that will be reckoned with at some point. Now we'll be this weekend, We'll have to wait and see. This match could end up being a total game changer for both guys, with Dom will Dom hold on to his title or with pent to finally grab the gold that he's been after with interference from both sides of likely, don't be surprised if we see some shocking moments in this one. If you're just asking me straight up, who's going to walk away with the title. I don't think Dirty Dom's title reign is going to end that quickly just three weeks. So I think by hook or by crook I believe is the phrase dirty Dom goes home and delivers that ICEE title back to his girl Live. All right, moving on, let's talk about we're talking about the Intercontinental title. Now we're going to move over to the women's Intercontinental title, and let's look at that Lyra Valkyria set to face Becky Lynch. You know, things got personal between these two when Becky replaced and injured Bailey at WrestleMania, she teamed up with Lyra and they won the women's tag team titles on the grandest stage of them all. But that celebration it didn't last very long. Just one night later, they lost those titles and that's when things took a turn. See Becky turned to Lyra and the feud has been red Hot ever since actually really like it, and I thought, you know, being this quick, I might not. This one's been a quick build, yes, but it's been packed with intense moments. This past Monday, things got really personal. That's when Becky called Bailey garbage and Lyra nothing more than recycling. She said, you should thank me for taking out garbage. What do you do when someone takes out the garbage? You thank them, You don't boo them. You also ask them to take out the recycling. And that's what I did with Lyra. Well, Lyra didn't take that lightly and fired back, calling Becky the real recycling for always using the same tired talking points, in the same tired moves and the same tired ideas. Now that exchange shows just how personal that this feud's become. Lyra's not just a great wrestler, She's also got some serious mic skills. As we saw on Monday. That might be the most I've seen her talk since moving up to the main roster, and I love it. She did a great job and she's not afraid to go toe to toe with one of the best in the business. Becky's known for arrogance in her history with recycling old gimmets, as Lyra says, but that's just fueling Lyra's desire to prove herself as a legitimate champion and she could here. As for this match, this one's I don't know, kind of tough to call. Lyra's been holding onto that women's ICEE title for a little while. Now she's the very first women's I SEE title holder and she's earned her place in the spotlight. But Becky Lynch, I mean, she's a season bet, a proven track record, and this could be the start of a rivalry that I see Becky wing the title and then Lyra chasing it all the way through SummerSlam. So expect this one to heat up as the stakes get higher and hire. Will Lyra hold onto her title or will Becky reclaim her spot at the top of the women's division. We'll see this weekend. You've heard my thoughts, I'd love to know yours. Now. Do you think that Lyra retains at Backlash this Saturday on Peacock in the US or on Netflix outside of the US. Drop a comment on this video you know what to do. Love to chat back and forth with you there or on Instagram if you're not watching on YouTube right now and you're listening to the podcast this week, jump over to Instagram to wrestle Chat Podcast and drop your comment there. All right, don't forget to tweet along with me during Bashblash on Saturday. You can follow me at the ant Man. You can follow the show at wrestle Chat Pod, No podcast, just pod, wrestle Chat Pod, both of those on X. Very active all through the show and excited to do that with you this weekend. All right, we've got one more match. Finally, We've got the undisputed WWE Championship match between John Cena and Randy Orton. Man, this rivalry goes back well over well over two decades, with both guys having clashed in some of WWE's i mean, most high stakes matches, got hell in the cell TLC I quit matches, and it's been some really good ones, i mean between now and then. It might be fun to go back and watch some of those. So yeah, there's a lot of history here between John Cena and Randy Orton and it adds some serious intensity to this matchup this weekend at Backlash. Sena fresh off his win against Cody Rhodes at WrestleMania forty one. He's defending his record breaking seventeenth world title against none other than the Viper, Randy Orton. Orton made his intentions very clear on the first raw after WrestleMania. He was lurking in the shadows, ended up hitting Sena with the RKO and setting the stage for this show down in Orton's hometown of Saint Louis, Missouri. This crowd's going to be absolutely on fire for this match, and predictably on the side of the Viper. I can't wait to hear that eruption when he walks out, Oh her boy says in my head and the crowd goes wild. Well, this isn't just about the title. It's also about legacy. John Cena is trying to cebmit his place as one of the greatest of all time. I mean, they're already calling name the Goat, right. Orton's looking to prove he's still got what it takes and he's going to be around, presumably after December. John Cena not so much. The question is can Sina overcome the Viper's tactics Because I'm in Sena might be a quote unquote good guy or a babyface right now. But that doesn't mean he's He's not afraid to ben the rules. Should we say? Orton's got deep rooted hatred for John Cena. He's not afraid to use an opening or any opening that he can. But Sina's resilience and determination to lead a lasting legacy might just be enough to carry him through this match. I don't know. This is a huge one and it could mark a turning point in John Cena's career, perhaps one of his last chances to solidify his status as the quote unquote goat. In the end, John Cena versus Randy Orton at Backlash about to be more than just a title defense, that is for sure. I'm excited about this one. It's the culmination of, you know, years of history of personal vendettas and the pursuit of legacy. Really for both of these guys, this one's gonna be filled with drama. It's gonna have a lot of emotion and the kind of intensity that only Sena and Orton can bring. I mean, these guys, they've done it before, and we've had some time off between these two. I think they just pick up where they left off. Trust me, you don't want to miss this match. Now, if you ask me right now, do I think that Randy Orton is going to end that seventeenth rain as the world champion for John Cena, that record breaking seventeenth rain, I would say no. This is the one that I think is gonna have. It's gonna have something big happen in it. Does this mean the Rock gets involved? Does this mean that Cody comes back and throws his two cents in? Does something in the match? Is it somebody else getting involved? Is it we've talked about pretty much on every Poe. Could this be the return of brock Lesner? Who knows man, who knows what's gonna happen? I just don't think this is one where we see John Cena leave without the title. I don't think a record breaking seventeenth run with the title ends three weeks after it starts, Especially they build that they made going into him winning that seventeenth title. I just don't think it ends here at Backlash. And if you go with history of WWE in performers in superstars hometowns, they don't typically fare too well. So if that tells you anything about what could happen to Randy Orton. I'm excited for this one and cannot wait to see because even if it's just simply a normal, no frills, nobody gets involved match, it's Randy Orton and John Cena, it's cloned to be an incredible match. So excited about the about it this weekend. I hope you are too, and I would love to know what you think about some of my predictions. I want to know what you are thinking about who's going to walk away with titles or who's going to walk away with victories in these matches as well, So drop your comment again. If you're watching on YouTube, if you haven't hit subscribe yet, go ahead and do that while you're there as well. If you're listening right now, you can find a post about this podcast on our Instagram at wrestle Chat Podcast. Chime in there with your thoughts as well. I think Michael will be back with us next week and Sophy and I will chat and invite you along as well. And I hope you enjoyed today. 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This week on WrestleChat, AntMan is flying solo and breaking down every major match coming your way at WWE Backlash, the first Premium Live Event since WrestleMania 41—and the card is absolutely stacked. From title clashes to personal grudges, it's all on the table. First up, Ant dives into the Fatal Four-Way for the United States Championship as Jacob Fatu defends against LA Knight, Drew McIntyre, and Damian Priest. Is LA Knight being robbed of a rightful rematch? And is this just the beginning of Fatu’s rise to the top?
Then, it gets personal. Gunther and Pat McAfee go one-on-one after the shocking post-WrestleMania assault on Michael Cole. This isn't just about revenge—this one’s about respect. Plus, Penta challenges Dirty Dom for the Intercontinental Title in a match that could explode with outside interference, especially with Rey Fenix now in the mix.
We’ve also got fireworks in the Women’s Intercontinental Title match between Lyra Valkyria and Becky Lynch. After their WrestleMania tag team win turned into betrayal the very next night, this quick-burn feud has some real heat. And finally, the main event: John Cena defends his record-breaking 17th world title against longtime rival Randy Orton in Orton’s hometown of St. Louis. Will Cena’s run end just three weeks after it began—or does this match have “shenanigans” written all over it?
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the wrestle Chat Podcast. What's going on? I'm the ant man flying solo this week. Michael is off. That means it's just me and you chatting. I'm excited about this though. I'm excited to hear what you think about this weekend's pl backlash. So leave your comments on each of these matches in the comment section here on YouTube. If you're watching, if you are listening on the free iHeartRadio Apple, We're on Spotify. Drop me a comment on our Instagram. It's at wrestle Chat podcast there on Instagram. We've got five matches lined up for the first post wrestle Mania forty one p l E. And let me tell you they're packing some serious heat and some huge, huge stakes up. First, we got a big one. It is the US title match between Jacob fat Iu La Night, Damian Priest, and Drew McIntyre. Now, this Fatal four way is shaping up to be a real barnburner. A doozy La Knight was the US champion heading into wressell Maania forty one, but he lost the title in a shocking moment when Jacob Faught two snagged that belt. I'll say a shocking moment. I think a lot of us thought, Okay, Jacoba Two's got a lot of momentum. I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves WrestleMania forty one with that championship, and that is exactly what happened. The loss left a lot of people wondering though, what's next for La Knight. Most would assume he'd get a rematch, right, a one on one rematch, but instead of a one on one shot, he's thrown into this multiman match with two other guys, Drew McIntyre and Damian Priest. They both think they're next in line for the US title, and you could feel La Knight's frustration, no doubt after losing his title in such a big match, I mean wrestle Mania forty one, it's the biggest you can get. The guy feels like, you know, he shouldn't have to fight two other challengers just to get a shot at that title once again. And honestly, I totally get where he's coming from. It's hard not to feel for him when he's just trying to, you know, get back to where he was before WrestleMania. Now on the flip side, Jacob Fatu is coming into this match with a ton of momentum, not just this matchup, but he went into Wrestle Media forty one with a ton of momentum. But then to add the US title to the mix, it's even more heading into backlash, he just captured that US title and it feels like he is on the rise, and no doubt he is. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see bigger things for Jacob Fatu down the road. You know, a future World WWE Championship run in his future. That's not out of the question. This is just the beginning for Jacob, and I think that the US title is the first step in his climb to his inevitable greatness. All the fans they're backing Jacob Fatu as well, and so is the company. So I really can't see the title slipping away from from Jacob anytime soon. Fatwo's a beast and a fatal four way match that's only going to help solidify his place there at the top. But now let me ask you a question, what about La Knight. I mean, you talk about momentum, this guy's had it. What's this multiman match going to do for that momentum. Honestly, it's a bit of a tricky spot. I mean, he's not getting his one on one rematch. You know, when the when, the when the champ loses, the next match is supposed to be a rematch, and it was always a thing back in the day of it being in the contract. You get the you get the first shot at getting that title back, and instead La Knight is fighting for his chance in a match that kind of feels more like a roadblock. I mean, if La Knight doesn't come out on top here, I want to know where that kind of leaves him the company. He's built his whole persona on that no nonsense, you know, brash attitude, very stone cold, Steve Austin like. But you know, this match could be a real test to see if he can maintain that momentum even without the title around his waist. Now, one thing's for sure, LA's not the type to back down from a fight, and this match it's going to show us what's next for him, for better or for worse. Now, let's talk about the two other guys we've got, Drew McIntyre and Damian Priest. They're both bringing a little drama Actually they're bringing a lot of drama to this match. These two have, they have personal history that goes beyond the title picture, and honestly, their tension could end up being a highlight of this match, or it could be a distraction too. It's kind of weird to see, I mean, why they're even in this match. Both of them feel like they're well, they're kind of just there. I mean, it's kind of like these two have a few they're being stuck into this to this this fight for the title between La Knight and Jacoba two. But regardless of how they ended up there, this fatal four way US title match at Backlash this Saturday shape it up to be unpredictable and just a heck of a roller coaster ride. Now, if I had to guess, I think Jacoba two walks away still holding onto that US title. I'd love to know what you think, Jacoba two. Will he retain or will we see a new champion in either La Knight, Damian Priest or Drew McIntyre. Will find out on Saturday. Now, next up, we've got what might be one of the most personal and I mean and heated matches I think of the night. This is Gunther versus Pat McAfee. This one's been brewing for a little while and it's definitely a match to watch. It all started when guntherer attacked Michael Cole on the raw after WrestleMania forty one. Why did Gunther do that? It all stemmed from a comment that Michael Cole made about Gunther tapping out to Jay Uso at wrestle Mania ended up costing Guthro the world title, of course, and Gunther being Gunther, didn't just sit back and let it all slide. He took action and abused Michael Cole. But that's when Pat McAfee said no, no, no, no, not gonna do that to the goat, and he jumped in. That attack wasn't just random. Gunther took it a step further and left Pat McAfee actually unconscious, choking him out their at ringside, which obviously kicked this whole thing into high gear. And let's be real, Pat McAfee's not the type to just roll over and take it. No, no, no. He came back with a vengeance and an incredible promo. Pat didn't just come to Cole's rescue that night, but he also cut a fiery promo the next Monday, making it clear that Gunther was going to pay. He's going to pay for what he did to Michael Cole with SmackDown GM. Nick altis stepping in to make this match actually official. He was filming in that night. McAfee made sure everyone knew that no one, no one messes with the Goat Michael Cole. I mean, that guy's been the voice of so many matches and so many memories. This is about more than just defending a colleague. It's a battle for pride and respect, and I think we're going to see that in this match. The crowd absolutely electric when they made that announcement, in Pat's words, set the tone for the most personal matchup of the night. Now, Pat McAfee's no slouch when it comes to getting into the ring. You know, we've seen him throw down before, even at WrestleMania, and he's proven time and time again that he's more than capable of hanging with some of the best in the business. But let's be honest, this is Gunh. We're talking about Gunh an absolute machine. This guy has been dominant as the Intercontinental champion. As a matter of fact, he's the longest raining Intercontinental Champion and his raw power, his submission game, his intensity. It makes him one of the most dangerous guys in WWE right now. Gunther is not someone that you want to underestimate, and I certainly hope that Pat McAfee's emotions aren't causing him to underestimate Gunter. As much as I love Pat his energy and his charisma, this match feels like Gunther's. It's Gunther's to lose. Don't get me wrong. I mean Pat's going to put up a heck of a fight, but I'm expecting, and I'm betting maybe you do too, that Gunher is going to get a win here in this match, probably locking in a brutal submission to make Pat tap out. I think that's how the whole thing ends. You tell me if I'm on the right track or if you have a different opinion. I would love to hear it. Drop a comment if you're watching right now on YouTube or hit me up on Instagram. It's at wrestle Chat podcast. Hey, I want to tell you that you could win Netflix for an entire year. Not only are we here on YouTube this is where you're watching right now, but we're also on well everywhere you can listen. 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Okay, so jump over to wrestle chatpodcast dot com. That'll walk you through the whole thing and you could end up with Netflix for an entire year on us. All right, swallow here and get back to this Penta versus Dirty dumb Our next match, This one for the Intercontinental title. This one's got all the ingredients for a classic showdown. I have loved Penta being in addition to WWE. Penta had his eyes on that I see title well before WrestleMania, and though he didn't win it in that chaotic fatal four way match at WrestleMania forty one, he's not giving up on this goal. And I think we will see that strap around Pentu's waste at some point. Now, is it going to be this weekend at Backlash? I don't know. Let's let's go over some of this. This time. He's getting his one on one shot. The WrestleMania match a fatal four way, this being a one on one shot at least that's what it looks like on the surface. And I say that kind of tongue in cheek here because although Dirty Dom's got the judgment Day always backing him up, So I wonder how that's going to come into play at Backlash. And we know that Dom thrives when his stable mates are in his corner. I mean, if you're not cheating. You're not trying, right, Pentus got an ace up his sleeve though his brother Ray Finnix, he is now in WWE, was all him make his debut for WrestleMania against Grande El Grande Americano. I just got to remember my drink from Starbucks and I remember his name. I mean that could actually, you know, Phoenix being here could be the game changer in this match, because you've got all this turmoil going on the outside, or maybe some interference headed headed its way into the match. It was up to Dirty Dom. Of course he's going to do that, but maybe Ray could be there to help ward some of that off. Let's see Pensus hungary for this Golden with Ray potentially having his back. Now they haven't said anything about that. We just kind of see them starting to have some interactions, but it could. It could turn things at least back to even maybe Dirty Dom might have the judgment day. But Pentis got the Luca brothers and that's a force that will be reckoned with at some point. Now we'll be this weekend, We'll have to wait and see. This match could end up being a total game changer for both guys, with Dom will Dom hold on to his title or with pent to finally grab the gold that he's been after with interference from both sides of likely, don't be surprised if we see some shocking moments in this one. If you're just asking me straight up, who's going to walk away with the title. I don't think Dirty Dom's title reign is going to end that quickly just three weeks. So I think by hook or by crook I believe is the phrase dirty Dom goes home and delivers that ICEE title back to his girl Live. All right, moving on, let's talk about we're talking about the Intercontinental title. Now we're going to move over to the women's Intercontinental title, and let's look at that Lyra Valkyria set to face Becky Lynch. You know, things got personal between these two when Becky replaced and injured Bailey at WrestleMania, she teamed up with Lyra and they won the women's tag team titles on the grandest stage of them all. But that celebration it didn't last very long. Just one night later, they lost those titles and that's when things took a turn. See Becky turned to Lyra and the feud has been red Hot ever since actually really like it, and I thought, you know, being this quick, I might not. This one's been a quick build, yes, but it's been packed with intense moments. This past Monday, things got really personal. That's when Becky called Bailey garbage and Lyra nothing more than recycling. She said, you should thank me for taking out garbage. What do you do when someone takes out the garbage? You thank them, You don't boo them. You also ask them to take out the recycling. And that's what I did with Lyra. Well, Lyra didn't take that lightly and fired back, calling Becky the real recycling for always using the same tired talking points, in the same tired moves and the same tired ideas. Now that exchange shows just how personal that this feud's become. Lyra's not just a great wrestler, She's also got some serious mic skills. As we saw on Monday. That might be the most I've seen her talk since moving up to the main roster, and I love it. She did a great job and she's not afraid to go toe to toe with one of the best in the business. Becky's known for arrogance in her history with recycling old gimmets, as Lyra says, but that's just fueling Lyra's desire to prove herself as a legitimate champion and she could here. As for this match, this one's I don't know, kind of tough to call. Lyra's been holding onto that women's ICEE title for a little while. Now she's the very first women's I SEE title holder and she's earned her place in the spotlight. But Becky Lynch, I mean, she's a season bet, a proven track record, and this could be the start of a rivalry that I see Becky wing the title and then Lyra chasing it all the way through SummerSlam. So expect this one to heat up as the stakes get higher and hire. Will Lyra hold onto her title or will Becky reclaim her spot at the top of the women's division. We'll see this weekend. You've heard my thoughts, I'd love to know yours. Now. Do you think that Lyra retains at Backlash this Saturday on Peacock in the US or on Netflix outside of the US. Drop a comment on this video you know what to do. Love to chat back and forth with you there or on Instagram if you're not watching on YouTube right now and you're listening to the podcast this week, jump over to Instagram to wrestle Chat Podcast and drop your comment there. All right, don't forget to tweet along with me during Bashblash on Saturday. You can follow me at the ant Man. You can follow the show at wrestle Chat Pod, No podcast, just pod, wrestle Chat Pod, both of those on X. Very active all through the show and excited to do that with you this weekend. All right, we've got one more match. Finally, We've got the undisputed WWE Championship match between John Cena and Randy Orton. Man, this rivalry goes back well over well over two decades, with both guys having clashed in some of WWE's i mean, most high stakes matches, got hell in the cell TLC I quit matches, and it's been some really good ones, i mean between now and then. It might be fun to go back and watch some of those. So yeah, there's a lot of history here between John Cena and Randy Orton and it adds some serious intensity to this matchup this weekend at Backlash. Sena fresh off his win against Cody Rhodes at WrestleMania forty one. He's defending his record breaking seventeenth world title against none other than the Viper, Randy Orton. Orton made his intentions very clear on the first raw after WrestleMania. He was lurking in the shadows, ended up hitting Sena with the RKO and setting the stage for this show down in Orton's hometown of Saint Louis, Missouri. This crowd's going to be absolutely on fire for this match, and predictably on the side of the Viper. I can't wait to hear that eruption when he walks out, Oh her boy says in my head and the crowd goes wild. Well, this isn't just about the title. It's also about legacy. John Cena is trying to cebmit his place as one of the greatest of all time. I mean, they're already calling name the Goat, right. Orton's looking to prove he's still got what it takes and he's going to be around, presumably after December. John Cena not so much. The question is can Sina overcome the Viper's tactics Because I'm in Sena might be a quote unquote good guy or a babyface right now. But that doesn't mean he's He's not afraid to ben the rules. Should we say? Orton's got deep rooted hatred for John Cena. He's not afraid to use an opening or any opening that he can. But Sina's resilience and determination to lead a lasting legacy might just be enough to carry him through this match. I don't know. This is a huge one and it could mark a turning point in John Cena's career, perhaps one of his last chances to solidify his status as the quote unquote goat. In the end, John Cena versus Randy Orton at Backlash about to be more than just a title defense, that is for sure. I'm excited about this one. It's the culmination of, you know, years of history of personal vendettas and the pursuit of legacy. Really for both of these guys, this one's gonna be filled with drama. It's gonna have a lot of emotion and the kind of intensity that only Sena and Orton can bring. I mean, these guys, they've done it before, and we've had some time off between these two. I think they just pick up where they left off. Trust me, you don't want to miss this match. Now, if you ask me right now, do I think that Randy Orton is going to end that seventeenth rain as the world champion for John Cena, that record breaking seventeenth rain, I would say no. This is the one that I think is gonna have. It's gonna have something big happen in it. Does this mean the Rock gets involved? Does this mean that Cody comes back and throws his two cents in? Does something in the match? Is it somebody else getting involved? Is it we've talked about pretty much on every Poe. Could this be the return of brock Lesner? Who knows man, who knows what's gonna happen? I just don't think this is one where we see John Cena leave without the title. I don't think a record breaking seventeenth run with the title ends three weeks after it starts, Especially they build that they made going into him winning that seventeenth title. I just don't think it ends here at Backlash. And if you go with history of WWE in performers in superstars hometowns, they don't typically fare too well. So if that tells you anything about what could happen to Randy Orton. I'm excited for this one and cannot wait to see because even if it's just simply a normal, no frills, nobody gets involved match, it's Randy Orton and John Cena, it's cloned to be an incredible match. So excited about the about it this weekend. I hope you are too, and I would love to know what you think about some of my predictions. I want to know what you are thinking about who's going to walk away with titles or who's going to walk away with victories in these matches as well, So drop your comment again. If you're watching on YouTube, if you haven't hit subscribe yet, go ahead and do that while you're there as well. If you're listening right now, you can find a post about this podcast on our Instagram at wrestle Chat Podcast. Chime in there with your thoughts as well. I think Michael will be back with us next week and Sophy and I will chat and invite you along as well. And I hope you enjoyed today. 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