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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to the Euroclutch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean Hamilton and it's been a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been about three months now since forbidden door weekend and for my money in the weeks and let's be frank months since then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The wrestling scene in London has come a bit from expag.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My main talking point for this episode was going to be just how muted things have been amongst the quote unquote big London promotions, but two or three have renowned some pretty big shows lately.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and guess you don't want to be unfair to, you know, be overlead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's start about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because we're talking about we have proven announcing that they're computing Wembley Arena of a night before age of these return to Wembley for all in in 2026.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it caused some stuff the first time we've had one of the big trendy promotions we run Wembley Arena at least in Miss Millennium.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because progress run hell of Wembley there back in 2018 and yeah we're gonna be what 80 years not for day but new enough by the time we have pulled on there and you know you'd think well surely if it's been a lot of turn in the scene and all very few names will be you know on the revport show that would work for progress show
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not that many.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because a lot of names moved on, moved up and moved out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you look at the progress card from Wembley 2018, it's only a few names like Chuck Mambol, TK Cooper, Chris Ridgway, Michael O'Koo, David Francisco, and he'd be, you know, Frank, you know, there, Chris Ridgway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He did what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We blew Pantheon for much at the anniversary weekend and hasn't been really seen on Reef Pro show since.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mumble and Cooper, not for machine, there are somewhat regulars, not part of a fernish and rev pro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My clock, of course, and if you only think would be a doubt about him being on this show is if he's been signed and that's been a host was being beaten so dead it's come back to life and being killed again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course David Franz Cisco, who
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to say it's like a bad penny for F Pro, but it seems to be one of those names and face who's going to be around, you know, it's some part on the card.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, go out for five, six names where who could be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go for like some trend seven who, okay, just dropped to the storyline and I've pro Nina Simul's, Cosper's being, you know, question marks about, you know, her future, uh, condomails, you know, Grizzled Young veteran.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, a few names which
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[SPEAKER_00]: various degrees all over the ref Polkard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And how do you think, you know, in terms of gates, I think the, you know, of ticks have been out from pre-sale for a while now, believe that the latest county had was about 2,000 sold, which Ben might ref Polk's going for the full Wembley in a set of bats, a hell of a, you know, first knock, you know, Ben might all we have is a venue on a date,
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[SPEAKER_00]: talent announcements, definitely no matches, I mean that's a big book by RF2025 is my word was much announcements but you know, 2000, it's sold so far, you'd think RF202 goals in a way that publicly or privately, you'd think that's a big book by RF2025 is my word was much announcements but you know, 2000 is sold so far, you'd think RF202 goals, you know, whether publicly or privately,
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, the 2023 Copperbox Skate, no, 4,072, that's the one they'll want to clear, but the bigger one perhaps, it's not too much further on from that, 4,750 which was what progress announced at the 2018 Sean Wembleyd.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, who knows, maybe Andy Quillman will get a shiny new plaque to go with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now going back a little bit further before progress, because there was a promotion of a run on a lot in Wembleywena, relatively speaking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because wasn't a pitch promotion because we were talking about TNA wrestling, even used again lately for that AMC deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But back in the, what, late 2000s, 2010s, they had a big run of shows at the Wembley win, the back when TNA was hot over here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you, I'm not going to count the green of their house show tours, always not touch Wembley winner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and be fair, you know, it's a apples and oranges comparison, you know, T&A maybe not quite apples or apples, but not apples or apples, but no good news to think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go back to the last one, T&A in 2016, they drew about 4,000 for explosion one night only, you know, back when, you know, they were really, you know, flirting on different formats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wanted to flirt with us, we over had Willosbury on their books for the briefs to ask for heat point for New Japan rules and whatever else have been there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 2015, we had two episodes of Impact Tape at Wembley Wiener, about 4,500 people turn up there, there is a cage, much estimations, that was the year where we had Kurt Angle winning with TNA title from last year back when he was happy to lose, and for those who remember how was there, this was the year where we had the E.C.
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[SPEAKER_00]: free and spurred that blood soaked havers as hair match which, if you were part of a crowd of Wembley Wiener back night, that
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty 13, 2014, Cage Mart don't have crowd estimates, so we'll hand away that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We go back to 2012 and had 7,000 there for another double impact taping with James Storm and Sting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Beat and Bobby Wood and Bully Ray.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Before that, TNA didn't do TV, it was just how shows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what led to the big announcement of TNA doing TV here, which was a big deal back in the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But year 2011, we had 6,000 for how show with Mr. Johnson and Jeff Hardion top.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 7,02010 for AJ Styles and Kurt Angle in the main event with an ultimate X match in following Doug Williams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then, after that, you know, it was sort of a little too fond of Louis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The last time he hit when Louis was October 2023, 8,029 on there, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ironically you can be looking to be a heyday for black and gold brand NXT take over London This was in 2015 2015 10,000 and 79 there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was topped with Finn Balon small Joe and Fair back fair at Wembley winner in January for a SmackDown taping, which I know a few feet people with feet and fold hats were a little bit surprised original Perf poor able to get best off on sale, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are, I guess, whatever exclusivity we have didn't stretch to this particular one, but it's a move point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, we've probed a VOD, you know, state VEC claim for the all-in-shouldshoulds in 2026, as it stands, you know, personally, you know, like to do a usual venue, progress, like to a usual venue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right-cap rate voting, 28 focus of clapping grants, or very usual venue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if you speak my personally, they're not turning the big show over all in weekend, but they are doing the big show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's at a venue and two far from where AW ran this past year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is your big story coming out of the London Wrestling scene.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is porcelain Eve and vessel quantum eight, this is coming up on March 8, 26.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Act the Indigo at the old two now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a big deal because, you know, it's a big venue, I believe we first time we've had wrestling at the Indigo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For those who are not too familiar with the setup, it's part of your two complex, so the old Millennium Dom, you know, it's got turned into your two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got your two arena, which is your arena inside that, but there's a big shopping restaurant complex within there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the end to go is like a small music venue, so in the goal for you all too, but you know, expect to see some people short-handly say it for you all too, and as we're copying past and from personal pieces, what have you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And at the time of speaking with,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about, I believe, completely out of a seated ticket, so it's all stung in the morning, and, you know, I know there's some disgruntlement about the way the announcement was presenting this as, well, I'll spray presents, Poisson Eve.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been dialed down now, you know, his voice is all over the promos, you know, we've gotten the...
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll ask for a name out from the initial announcement which has gotten people's interest and what have you But yeah, we're very much you know looking at say maybe about a little north of a thousand capacity Which you know the hell of a show means one I would be looking going to had I not already had my weekend Reptitive weekend blocked off for 16 cow gold and Germany and also quite a few people who
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ruin is maybe not the right word, but kind of wishing with this show was not taking place on another big weekend in New York.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we already have a couple of matches announced for vessel queen to mate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now the first match they have announced is a pretty big one at least from names and getting back in the sooner things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Chris Stattlander, of course, he is the current A-Women's Champion, but also the Ev International Champion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's going to be defending against someone who's going by under one name these days, Charlie, of course forming known as Dakota Kai, previously forming known as Evie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Believe that is going to be her first appearance since her WWE release earlier this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: elsewhere on the endcard bay announced Jamie Hater against Meary Muster and one not announced to expect based on what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The current Eve Champion Real, you would expect to take on the winner of the she-one tournament and
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, it's a bit of a sidebar, so she won't turn, we've been doing for a long one, I'll go back to the resistance gallery days, but it's a different format, it's no longer the four shows, intense found who I've been doing, but I was, you know, had someone injured by the end of a weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been done as a knockout format, but this time it's been split over two shows,
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, January you're getting a quarter finals on the semi-finals with the final on the February show and you'd expect to know quick turnaround from February to March for the title match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In terms of brackets 4, B.C.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 1, may so go through these now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they've been doing across the past few shows, but I guess pre-qualify matches are qualifiers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've used false terms interchangeably depending on the story or what fits.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in terms of the matches, so from the qualifiers we had a need of on-beat and vipers,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Amy Sakra-Beach and Rayne Lebecusen, Skysmits and Beach and Mewer in a spot which I guess if you have tolerance for comedy and wrestling is you know floor level you would not like the second to win viral and I am just going to leave it there absolutely not my grabs but you can see why people like this, Martin beats too young to qualify while Melissa Faes and Alexis Falcon had
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[SPEAKER_00]: Most Spartan beatfiles night, and on the show in November, Sapphire Reed overcame Danymo, which means we have these brackets for the quarterfinals on January 9th, this is a big penny social in Mortemstone, initiative on taking on the winner of Abbey Cartwright and X.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we sucker against Guy Smith since you have a quarterfinal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Martina and Lexus Falcons per third quarter final, Holy Spartan Sapphire reads a false or be initiative on and when of Abbey and X versus when of Emissacra Skysmitsum, Martina and Falcons when they're versus when of Spartan Sapphire read, there'll be two semi-finals in the final, we'll be taking place on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: February with six again big penny social for the multiverse rumble show and yeah looking base we're looking at two shows in March March 6th and big penny when March 8th today's later act the Indicolveo 2 so very much a packed line of eve going into 2026 and you know their promotion I went to a
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[SPEAKER_00]: the live show where there's a leeton counts in November, it's another one I want to get back to just because the atmosphere is completely different, released from the standard rest of being going to see if we have pro, but not a product which is valid as flaws, but you know, certainly wanted to want to dedicate an entire episode to other than, you know, quick tuned to Rumble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll be doing that in the new year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, say, the fact that you've got V.C.1 over two shows, then your big show at the end of the goal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot of big headline events in a short space of time, which could backfire or suppose, especially in this market and in this economy, but we'll see how it goes mean.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, say, the fact that it's flew out for the big tent pole show,
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[SPEAKER_00]: The interest is fair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think now it's just going to be case of what names do I get to round out the card and has if you're going in with the age of the impulse pretty much every month since this past summer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know whether that's a good hit a point of burnout but again that's something you can dive into at a later point but I don't want to go back to is
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[SPEAKER_00]: We, I can speak general feel of malaise across the emotions in London, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna full names out here and again, these are just my opinions and I'm pretty sure people listening to this will, you know, how the pop music's in all, how day you just misbehave clumpy, you don't like this, well, I think a lot of what I'm saying here, this isn't like me, you know, phone out of emotional, oh, I didn't like this fair for what sucks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One prune, what I'm putting forward is just what I'm seeing and how from a, you know, taking a step back, you know, not being, you know, not in the middle of a forest kind of view is just how this kind of looks me outside.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And all this year, there was a general feeling of a progress where starting to get back into a groove, sort of speak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Although then, not only in this autumn, we had GCW's blood sports pushing progress to the matinee spot, which is like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get, you know, blood sports a big name, but if you're willing to take in a back seat to that particular blood sports card, which was missing, you know, any kind of ten-pull name that would, you know, get people to it, it's, it's just weird like I get, you know, progress wanted to be partners with GCW, but putting your own show and, you know, literally calling out your own show as for one you can skip is just weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, heck, for fact,
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was always no demand progress when demand progress plus with, I guess for an important document there, now it's part of something called hooked on wrestling TV and it's like, that says a lot, without actually saying it, about what you perceive your brand to be valued as when your own promotion doesn't even have its own streaming platform.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Back in the day,
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[SPEAKER_00]: progress is on demand progress, okay, now it's on Trinity V, if you want to watch live stuff, but that's by the way, but fact that now, you know, their entire catalogue is just mushed into, I guess something that's trying to be like a bit raised equivalent of your high spot-snet work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess in terms of value for money great, but one, you know, maybe this has changed since I blocked on May and launch day, you can't actually see what the catalog is and as you were signed up paying member which, you know, is a hell of a way to, you know, convert people and hide the catalog behind the paywall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same point, it's also very much confusing of marketing it in and around progress where it's progress.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a result.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's hooked on wrestling TV.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, back in the day, you just got a progress in everything hard, but Brandon in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now as we head into 2026, it has been diluted into such a ridiculous level and if it's working with him great, but again, it's someone from the outside looking in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to your first show, and he's seen so many different brand names, so many different things,
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[SPEAKER_00]: which have been pointed to your way is vessel 2.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is vessel 2?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why has had something you want to remember from progress?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you want to go to the Taslamania.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is hooked on vessel and TV?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just such a confused offering.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's probably doing a lot more harm than good at least.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not for those who aren't already front and centre in the progress bubble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're in a path from no quiddles of a planting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You look away from the big tent pole shows and the tops of cards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My feeling is for juice just isn't there when it comes to the pitch scene for moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not in the same level in terms of the bulls, we were getting in 2016, 2017, 2018, you're not getting like
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if we were evolving dove big names like the dream matches, you know, if I'd used to be, you know, replos, puttin' buttets from the extent and right now, you know, if I have that many dreams, you know, back in the day, if we were putting a lot of names from New Japan, when they were ice hot, ice hot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess the school, my big baby, when they were very hot, now New Japan's ice cold and I guess this is the problem when a lot of your big show business is plucked from other people's wrestlers, you know, eventually organ and out of wrestlers who are hot and you know, all sell tickets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, early with here, we saw with the Mercedes money doing visit high stakes and donkaster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Granted with WrestleMania weekend, Granted with Easter Sunday, Granted with Donkaster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, at first time, Tom, who I've told, that was a show you'd have expected, who I've told to have sold out in heartbeat, and it wasn't close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, that's not a knock-on-reft post and knock-on money, it's not a knock-on-donkaster, maybe it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it just says, no, if this was, you know, seven years ago,
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[SPEAKER_00]: That show would have been sold out in an instant and look where we are now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess also where we are now is a completely different landscape as far as how wrestling fans perceive wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 10 years ago, the wide perception of WWE was not so great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fans were tired of the same old stuff, to be at least amongst no certain section of fan base, which independent wrestling invariably speaks to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now, you know, WWE for better for worse, you know, very much seem to be on a, on a, a surgeon at least in terms of, you know, the online fans, as in software as way, do tend to be, for everyone's in software to their own degrees.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, the rise in launch of AEW, you know, means which now you have that all turned it for the most part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, of Seb is
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[SPEAKER_00]: People who flocked to New Japan to, you know, Rev Pro to progress to wherever, as an alternative for WWE without leaving wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have their alternative now for most part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, the effects of a WWE, you know, they've taken a lot of the names from being, you know, Osprey, you know, Vine New Japan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, New Japan lost a lot of guys to a WWE which is meant for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan, they're still rebuilding, but certainly don't have the bulls and we must see value with very hard, even in the last six, seven years, got poor of a pandemic, again, procreation of AUW.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It must be my dead horse again, the sheer volume of wrestling help up itself there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're talking about what is it, you know, 3 hours of 2 hours of love, 3 hours of SmackDown, NXT, if you've ever watched what you've all that's there, if main event, you're talking to good, you know, let's say 6 hours, 6-7 hours, just for WWE.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then, towards a TNA, you know, if you're that much, you know, in the rabbit hole, then you've got, you know, four of a W5 and plus you want to add, you know, you're in the want to, and especially in Europe, you ain't watching the stuff alive for the most part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, that's pretty much every weeknight you are taking, watching, you know, catch a pressing, which means when it comes to a weekend where a lot of the end isn't very, very live.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, are you all restless out by then?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have a lot of stuff to do in the real world outside of?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, do we on Netflix?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, A, W, 1, Trilog, no, A, and other sites.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that is part of the issue which has been extremely unreported with the Indies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you've had the churn of names leaving for the new positions of being created.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Indies, I'm speaking in vast generalised terms here, have not done a good job in getting people ready to step up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not for varying competence, but just
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[SPEAKER_00]: the X-factors sort of speak that make people start to make a mistake.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's very few names out there where you'd go, I actually must see a Ben because XYZ, you know, yes, if you're watching no different scenes, for our names would jump out, but for someone from the outside hall of this, you're not seeing, I could grade all we had, you know, 10, 15 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: as world, as world gets it to more content, as you get to know, social media, TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube, we're so far removed from the days of just for five TV channels, I mean, UK and whatever sky-hat, just getting the attention now is hard of a never-so,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's kind of thing now where the amount of people who have time to get fully invested on the independence, I would say small whenever, because never mind, the mainstream stuff that's double degree A, W, and everything else that's fine for your attention, but then a lot of these independence now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: about running way more than they used to, not progress, not still, not monthly, but not left flow, like, they've run virtually weekly in 2025, you know, they've said, not hinting, we're going to run even more next year, which,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not my big criticism about RF Pro this year has been they've kind of morphed into GCWVUK.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will get under that in my next bit because I have a lot to say about but not sticking with the going back to the economy side of things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Back in the heyday first and like when I first started going to see RF Pro in what would be 2017.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Texture of the London Cockpit was monthly shows, was like £15.50, no you go with 20 quid and pay for your tube more likely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if you're going to wear a new venue purchase to haul, with fees you're looking to know thick and over 30 quids are nearly doubled.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, that's just one example and you can whack them off, no, no, ticker, ticker price and rest and gone up, but so is everything else in a bad inflation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's for you, you, everyone's costs, especially since the pandemic of sort, your electric bills will be gas bills will up, you know, food's got more expensive, you know, you rent, you mocks up, wages may be not so much, and I guess this will have rubbed me to rot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That crunch is absolutely going to start biting, especially when you increase your output.
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[SPEAKER_00]: slowly moving two of the towns, it can be a benefit, but it's also a gamble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, running 12 shows year in London, great, you know, you're running six in Sheffield, six in Steven, Steven, Steven, and Coventry next year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've haven't been liked to get the same harvest as them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you look at the towns like Steven, it's where, you know, they've dropped them free to two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The international dates and all about that, something which no could be problematic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, now if you're going to be one of those sickles and you know, thank you to hand up many, but back in the day plenty of them existed, one of those sickles who travel to every single web pro show across the country, it's getting unavoidable, and for you sure you're going to have now is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're on demand platforms, but what's a quitter month?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you're now for a point where, you know, watching the on demand because you had a yoke, col-shower, a quarter, and you know, a monthly cockpit, maybe a show elsewhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People maybe didn't see with value in that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nowadays, or when we have post-running virtually every weekend,
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I day quit a month, you know, it's, I don't say it's nothing, you know, well, if you compare to a price particular, it's nothing, but that's where the big risk hits is, if your product slips from being, I need to see if it's in person and then the extra cost of an of a travel and of drinks, etc.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Versus, you know what, I'm interested, I'll happily pay V8 pounds for this month because it was big show, X happening here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think it's worth going in person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the second for crowd you really want to avoid losing, because you check it's fairly quick, you use around number.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You all can have to sell what four on demands, just to make the same amount of pounds and pennies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's before you even take, not whatever it could.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a Vimeo takes for real on demand sets and granted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's probably a lot more profit in the VOD subscriptions, but if the end of the day if everyone shifts from going to watch it live and just watches it home on their phone, on the TV, on the laptop, it's a much different product, not watch live and certainly one of the knocks of the FPO has been, not just how quiet or crowd has been set, not safe for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A few chosen names shall we say, but yeah, as emotions continue to expand,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all well and good running shows on a weekly basis, but if you get to point where, you know, it wasn't too long ago, there was a show they ran in St. Neart's where I think they were barely hitting three figures for a crowd.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The granted is not St. Neart's not a venue where we run now, because the venue is not available.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But as good as the shows are, if you're not getting the bodies full of gates, you can know, have as many shows as you want, but if it then becomes unattractive to what, because you're playing front of empty chairs or if a crowd's silent, the next step is clicking cancel might feel a D subscription and yeah, it's a sleepy slope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I would certainly wouldn't want to be, you know, in charge of, you know, deciding dates on have you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's a whole thing from morning, Iceland.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you run the shows, you think you can, you know, sell tickets to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you have enough content to fail and, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, these days we're progressing, it is very much fat, it is content, a lot of matches that eventually should weave together to tell a story that wants to draw people back in for for more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, the, I guess, chaotic nature of how Rift Pro Shows seem to be coming together lately is also having a undesired effect, shall we say, but hopefully things will change
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did want to, except the big tent pole event from September still hasn't emerged.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The second tree was grown pretty, now we are recording with on the evening of December the 8th.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're about to, to and half of the sun from what we can do in Barcelona, and as we sat here now, we only have one of those two shows out in demand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And back in the day, you know, a long time bitter as fans will be painfully familiar with for the cry of when's it going to be on demand, you know, certainly it made John probably loses 10 per few times with fans on Twitter, but you know, about his fan misses now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This Barcelona show, it may be a very religious near-intercontinental title tournament in terms of it ever being a thing because here is the focus on the weekend, beyond guns, and Leon Slater, or the Ford Grafts, as winners with the trophies and what have you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, fact, we can just seem to be in hindsight, something from the World Shed for F-Pro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I say, beyond guns and Leon, one of the tournaments,
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in particular we're fully on slater, we've kind of hit a bit for dead end with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we intensifying relationship between WWE and TNA, it's actually on becoming something we regular on NXT and HECK.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's only just been announced for this weekend, Saturday night main event, main roster WWE now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to be all not tinfoiled, hush again and just go, is this contract tampering or that's not something I'm really too concerned of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But at this point, you know, you kind of have to say it's falsely on Slate, a little more not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: at least when it comes to the independence, but times come to just stop using him in anything of substance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had the live in London 100 show in October where Leon was meant to be taking a mystery point, which was returned in Leon Cage, except he got pulled for W.E.
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[SPEAKER_00]: stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Luke Jacobs replaced him, Matt Olwell and Good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This past weekend, reports live in London one or two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this heck of a Sunday we've got, you know, ReefPoreprising, where have you announced match?
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[SPEAKER_00]: While Shah Samyels defending the ReefPore title against a Jade Joshua and Leon Slater, except because now we know Leon's being booked for Saturday nights main event, ReefPore's had to pull him from there and where he did it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, didn't exactly go down well, you know, with Leon's coach Liam, basically saying but oh, his head isn't in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm rescinding him, crushing the trophy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to cast him when I say, but look, this is all a bit for me, and not for start for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I made this point and got shouted down for this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Leon Slater is contracted, much like how Danny Lunar is, and the point where her availability was very much up in the air, it was shows where she just couldn't be undisappeared from, because of TNA tapings, Leon's a step further than the fact that he very much has a double-duty spotlight on him right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I would not be stunned if in 2026 or whenever his TNA deals up, that contract is, you know, three sign bullets under a TKO deal with other than TNA, which, I mean, WWE doesn't exactly give as much spotlight to guys for no reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We solved with Jordan Gray's, we've seen with Joe Henry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We know how the story ends, people who were fans of Buddha as in 2015, 2016, 2018, when NXT UK was sniffing around, you knew how this was going to play out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The second WWE had that friendship or agreement with TNA, you knew it was going to happen and to be honest, I'm surprised, given Reft Pulse on history with WWE, but they kept the story gone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, the start for year, we had that big old laundry list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: of names who were very much calling for no, I want a title shot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be championed here and I think that JJ Gail's the only one who hasn't even had a shot, everyone else has had a shot and mostly lost.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, where we are now, we've got no rough pro having to deal with the fall out from the late of certainly being unavailable again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, look, you know, you can pretend that you know, double reef, you know, it's the only time I do it's because I believe you're outstanding theories, very having really on beat AJ Styles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then that's going to be the big match for the AMC debut of TNA New Year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not intended to sound heartless of this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care, as a fan of the independence, right now I can uncompare promotions, you know, booking Leon in notable positions at this point, to fuck me with the gold with keeps charging headfirst and to a log burner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, fire still hot, and as long as W3 still has an interest with TNA and bad interest in Leon, fire still burn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it's unfortunate is what it isn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No sentimental all we want to have really on have a very small short run of a title.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At this point you just have to cut your losses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, Bookham if he's available that I think for days of Leon Slater being anything substantial to the scene, you've just got to cut your losses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Enjoy it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can book him, but you just can't plan around him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Heck there's
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[SPEAKER_00]: who no short plenty of shows for granted of reasons, but would not draw back and, you know, harshest may be, the same treatment's got to be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can get them great, but times come to stop planning around Leon Slater.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because we're coming Sunday without Lyon, we have repro-applicing in Cardiff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is typically one of our tent pole shows, you know, the end of the year of Schoffer F. Pro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's in Cardiff, because AWS and town, which is why it's a venue of it, or a certificate of repro, haven't run for quite some time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're looking at February 23 and October 2017, for the only two times repro-have run in the City of Cardiff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, yeah, the card on paper looks solid, but if you've been watching the shows going in, it's been a lot of mental gymnastics to get to the show, and whether it's a written review or a new episode of Euroclutch will be something on voices wrestling about the show, a certain for myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But come through this line up, it's like, say, strong on paper to a point, but also a little bit under one because of various factors along the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I suppose to say the main event or I guess expected main event until Mercedes Monais much was Charles Summaryl's defending the VWF port title against now just Jay Joshua, cause Jay Joshua from Wales and you'd expect another big home town pop for him winning, especially considering that he came up short in Leon in France earlier this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you'd expect, but surely, you know, the commodities here, but there's something about this, especially, you know, a free late change to much and also, just how Jay Josh will look against, come and cayon, this past weekend show, you know, your big title contender pretty much, you know, taking, you know, 25% of a much, you know, 25% of a much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: against Cameron Kaihu, of all due respect, is an exactly pulling up trees and ref pro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's just a weird piece of booking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, we can look at that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Elsewhere we have got Mike Locue, against Connell's House, we first much announced for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Mike Locue being out injured for two months has meant that really they've not been able to do much of anything in terms of build.
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[SPEAKER_00]: First time we've met in three years on paper a big match, but again just feel somewhat lukewarm because we've not had all cool on shows and also conmilles as well, hasn't been on shows to build anything up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, a match that was announced first, but really has, you know, been there on paper and most on paper in terms of promotion and hype.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've really sold back in Rev Pro for the first time in the year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got a tag title match against for Young Guns.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Joel Andles, winning of a cruise rate title this past Sunday, was followed by the majority of the rev pro cruise weight roster coming out for scrap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Long-term fans will probably get deja vu for when Flash Morgan Webster won a cruise rate title and then lost to Curtis Chaplin a week later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This time round to Joseph and his technical aboyle suit, he's getting the Chris Wade's grumbled events, Robbie X stunning black, Leo Rush will cave in and others I suspect maybe a few extra names coming in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As for me recently to post champion Neenle Bryant, well he's failed up a bit strong but I can't think of anything better way to phrase this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's facing Ricochet in a match which very much can be taken across as Yorney lost for belt because you weren't beating
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, tinfoil hot time again, hey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One called mind is against tricky night juniors on the card.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I should be good, but there's just some about, you know, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one
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[SPEAKER_00]: We also have David Francisco and his new sons of Southampton, that's a Kelly 6 and Josh James and hey, you know, scholars are wrestling how well do you know what have his work in wrestling?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you've been made express for new rockers, yeah, it's maybe got a different name lads.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to be taken on three to be announced from the card of scenes so we'd expect this would be this close to squash you get in a ref post or just a 15 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, because Mercedes money against Rio for money's worth poor women's title, again, this one's been built off a nom, but money matched on the announce for 10 days before the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So not too much ability can do, especially given how the government really had a long consistent room with Rio on shows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've also got a need of on against Alex Windsor's cultural collective stuff, Rumbles on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know very London Shower's past week and they had teased Nina Samuels, teaming with Alex Windsor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have the same poem of having Nina telling us, but she's a solo star, then one to go straight into tag match, which, I guess, her book for her out Vowam.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, cultural collective stuff still Rumbles on, the Alex Windsor's still trying to knock off everyone in the group.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She is part of a native on joining since I guess it's never, ever has never will be part of a group is very much in the firing line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess some paper, it's a strong carpet built, it's absolutely a new form of environmental gymnastics we had across the stuff with Leon Slater, really souring things as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, elsewhere, since I, you know, I can't really top up Trio's Grand Prix, sure, and I don't really want to go too much in the device because this was also, you know, two and a half months ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, the RxW did very Trio's Grand Prix, and I've had Trio's very Poe Wrestling Grand Prix in Oberhausen at the end of September.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, there was a fuller podcast on this if you head to backpot.com search for outifresser, uh, myself and Mike Kelby spoke for a while about the entire weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, a couple of storyline threads for our vats and we couldn't catch a round drop in tournament.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One by Hura, he's caching in or converting much tournament win to face a piece to honey, for the deluxe we unified world title in all the house miscleing weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Alia Bloom was a robot in the country to catch her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a street fight against a weapon Christopher forver to hire his manager against storyline implications for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The world tag team termed across one by the greedy souls.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They went back in November to win the tag titles on Plank of Giro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: then lost from a week later, because poor feud, throughout it, works to be used for 25th anniversary tournament, has been caudier against the grind, that is, what the drives can mark empire, as plans caudier, the grind loans, roamin' in Nick Shire, a few that's been rumbling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pimitron on off-since said, the whole Ambos group split up just over 18 months ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's the first coming Saturday 24th anniversary show from Oberhausen, Germany, that's on Trilogy TV.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Plus, I'm going to explain now, well worth a look and it's going to be one that will be speaking in a bit more depth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In our end of year, special and one that also be code on After Effects, of course.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but that will just about do it for this later step-sode of Euroclutch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a while I could say real-life stuff said, you know, very much taken up a lot of my time lately and you know, this past Sunday was probably the last to put her show be going to for a long while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not as mentioned, there had been going to be a pro mostly on an off-since 2017, 25 for me, it's been a year where it's not as much as it was, but very much not being the best year in terms of creative sense of pandemic, it was you've been watching or read my writing elsewhere and back body drop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've stopped snow-coding repulse since this past summer and restarted this year's where a sense for wheels will stand to come off at least in terms of how I viewed products.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was only so many ways you can watch them try to hammer jigsaw pieces into the wrong place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At least for your point of view.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, the shows were fine, but live, it's the ref-port template just keeps coming up again and again to buy from the back side and adding the fact that they run, so often that they are now being actively compared by people around the place to GCWMUK.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a whole thing, if everything's special, nothing special and with me, that's where we have poor ways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can throw a big match in the show and say, this card's special will great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But how do you say something isn't how you treat something?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, especially for being around a long while, you can see straight through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People's actions speak loud and words, I guess what they should say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I'm not a person level being told and yeah if this is me taking stuff in a long way but you know, being in directly told you over a long kind of fun, not for best time to be getting comments like that and certainly stuff which kept me very much souring on the motion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, companies turn around, no one can be hot all the time, no one can be cold all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My own consent of Rev Pro going into 2026 is, you know, running back in tenured schedule.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to have room to stop and breathe, you know, going into 2025, they didn't run much in January.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And unfortunately, it didn't need to, you know, I turned on such, but that's kind of where, you know, the drop of filming heck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You start at the end of 2024, the big Iron Man match at your calls as Iron Lee on Slater.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, supposedly, you know, for future of FFP on, and for certainly way, as I went to Paris and Norway and wasn't in FFP for most of the first quarter year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, we know where he is now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lee on Slater, despite losing my Iron Man match,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, was given more prominence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He won rational, dimensional, the star of the next generation, rivalry with Mike Locke and Donkaster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we know how that's ending with here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Truth be told, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have another book to rest and show my life, but a bit of advice, a free in terms of reducing how chaotic, where it all seems to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Take six names and the men's division takes six cruise weight names, take six names for women's division types, and really don't think it's for strength and depth, but she takes six type of teams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Know who you want to have as your next stars and prepare to push them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not have more do the gold broke win win win It'd be expensive everyone else, but have all six guys with six cruise weights for six type teams for six classes have them be Spotlight you're running enough shows where you can have no people not
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[SPEAKER_00]: in these positions and not be on a show in January, never seen again till March.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Book them plan, get the dates and just prepare for these guys to be ready.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you do get your next big show at short notice, you've got someone invariably if you've done the job right, ready to step in rather than, like we've seen this year, crap, we've got a show come a quick mini tournament.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Crap, let's do it, have it feel like stuff has a meaning, not just because, you know, when big show comes round, you can point to like, see, this means something now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have stuff feel like it has importance in meaning in the moment, and the people who are watching live on stream will feel a little better for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, that's going to do it for us, you know, I say, I really don't like being down in the report.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I stopped covering my eyes closely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I hope things turn on in 2020, 6, but yeah, we will need to say it, but again, thanks listen everyone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can have, as things that will have one more episode for the end of year, calling over a pricing from our purpose weekend, and the next week is 25th anniversary, but no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In the first case, if we're not enough, you don't get to listen to proper holidays, have a happy holidays, be safe, enjoy time with family and loved ones, and we'll see you soon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Adios.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to the Euroclutch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean Hamilton and it's been a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been about three months now since forbidden door weekend and for my money in the weeks and let's be frank months since then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The wrestling scene in London has come a bit from expag.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My main talking point for this episode was going to be just how muted things have been amongst the quote unquote big London promotions, but two or three have renowned some pretty big shows lately.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and guess you don't want to be unfair to, you know, be overlead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's start about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because we're talking about we have proven announcing that they're computing Wembley Arena of a night before age of these return to Wembley for all in in 2026.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it caused some stuff the first time we've had one of the big trendy promotions we run Wembley Arena at least in Miss Millennium.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because progress run hell of Wembley there back in 2018 and yeah we're gonna be what 80 years not for day but new enough by the time we have pulled on there and you know you'd think well surely if it's been a lot of turn in the scene and all very few names will be you know on the revport show that would work for progress show
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not that many.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because a lot of names moved on, moved up and moved out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you look at the progress card from Wembley 2018, it's only a few names like Chuck Mambol, TK Cooper, Chris Ridgway, Michael O'Koo, David Francisco, and he'd be, you know, Frank, you know, there, Chris Ridgway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He did what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We blew Pantheon for much at the anniversary weekend and hasn't been really seen on Reef Pro show since.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mumble and Cooper, not for machine, there are somewhat regulars, not part of a fernish and rev pro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My clock, of course, and if you only think would be a doubt about him being on this show is if he's been signed and that's been a host was being beaten so dead it's come back to life and being killed again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course David Franz Cisco, who
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to say it's like a bad penny for F Pro, but it seems to be one of those names and face who's going to be around, you know, it's some part on the card.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, go out for five, six names where who could be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go for like some trend seven who, okay, just dropped to the storyline and I've pro Nina Simul's, Cosper's being, you know, question marks about, you know, her future, uh, condomails, you know, Grizzled Young veteran.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, a few names which
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[SPEAKER_00]: various degrees all over the ref Polkard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And how do you think, you know, in terms of gates, I think the, you know, of ticks have been out from pre-sale for a while now, believe that the latest county had was about 2,000 sold, which Ben might ref Polk's going for the full Wembley in a set of bats, a hell of a, you know, first knock, you know, Ben might all we have is a venue on a date,
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[SPEAKER_00]: talent announcements, definitely no matches, I mean that's a big book by RF2025 is my word was much announcements but you know, 2000, it's sold so far, you'd think RF202 goals in a way that publicly or privately, you'd think that's a big book by RF2025 is my word was much announcements but you know, 2000 is sold so far, you'd think RF202 goals, you know, whether publicly or privately,
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, the 2023 Copperbox Skate, no, 4,072, that's the one they'll want to clear, but the bigger one perhaps, it's not too much further on from that, 4,750 which was what progress announced at the 2018 Sean Wembleyd.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, who knows, maybe Andy Quillman will get a shiny new plaque to go with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now going back a little bit further before progress, because there was a promotion of a run on a lot in Wembleywena, relatively speaking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because wasn't a pitch promotion because we were talking about TNA wrestling, even used again lately for that AMC deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But back in the, what, late 2000s, 2010s, they had a big run of shows at the Wembley win, the back when TNA was hot over here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you, I'm not going to count the green of their house show tours, always not touch Wembley winner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and be fair, you know, it's a apples and oranges comparison, you know, T&A maybe not quite apples or apples, but not apples or apples, but no good news to think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go back to the last one, T&A in 2016, they drew about 4,000 for explosion one night only, you know, back when, you know, they were really, you know, flirting on different formats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wanted to flirt with us, we over had Willosbury on their books for the briefs to ask for heat point for New Japan rules and whatever else have been there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 2015, we had two episodes of Impact Tape at Wembley Wiener, about 4,500 people turn up there, there is a cage, much estimations, that was the year where we had Kurt Angle winning with TNA title from last year back when he was happy to lose, and for those who remember how was there, this was the year where we had the E.C.
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[SPEAKER_00]: free and spurred that blood soaked havers as hair match which, if you were part of a crowd of Wembley Wiener back night, that
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty 13, 2014, Cage Mart don't have crowd estimates, so we'll hand away that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We go back to 2012 and had 7,000 there for another double impact taping with James Storm and Sting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Beat and Bobby Wood and Bully Ray.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Before that, TNA didn't do TV, it was just how shows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what led to the big announcement of TNA doing TV here, which was a big deal back in the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But year 2011, we had 6,000 for how show with Mr. Johnson and Jeff Hardion top.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 7,02010 for AJ Styles and Kurt Angle in the main event with an ultimate X match in following Doug Williams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then, after that, you know, it was sort of a little too fond of Louis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The last time he hit when Louis was October 2023, 8,029 on there, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ironically you can be looking to be a heyday for black and gold brand NXT take over London This was in 2015 2015 10,000 and 79 there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was topped with Finn Balon small Joe and Fair back fair at Wembley winner in January for a SmackDown taping, which I know a few feet people with feet and fold hats were a little bit surprised original Perf poor able to get best off on sale, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are, I guess, whatever exclusivity we have didn't stretch to this particular one, but it's a move point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, we've probed a VOD, you know, state VEC claim for the all-in-shouldshoulds in 2026, as it stands, you know, personally, you know, like to do a usual venue, progress, like to a usual venue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right-cap rate voting, 28 focus of clapping grants, or very usual venue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if you speak my personally, they're not turning the big show over all in weekend, but they are doing the big show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's at a venue and two far from where AW ran this past year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is your big story coming out of the London Wrestling scene.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is porcelain Eve and vessel quantum eight, this is coming up on March 8, 26.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Act the Indigo at the old two now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a big deal because, you know, it's a big venue, I believe we first time we've had wrestling at the Indigo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For those who are not too familiar with the setup, it's part of your two complex, so the old Millennium Dom, you know, it's got turned into your two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got your two arena, which is your arena inside that, but there's a big shopping restaurant complex within there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the end to go is like a small music venue, so in the goal for you all too, but you know, expect to see some people short-handly say it for you all too, and as we're copying past and from personal pieces, what have you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And at the time of speaking with,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about, I believe, completely out of a seated ticket, so it's all stung in the morning, and, you know, I know there's some disgruntlement about the way the announcement was presenting this as, well, I'll spray presents, Poisson Eve.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been dialed down now, you know, his voice is all over the promos, you know, we've gotten the...
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll ask for a name out from the initial announcement which has gotten people's interest and what have you But yeah, we're very much you know looking at say maybe about a little north of a thousand capacity Which you know the hell of a show means one I would be looking going to had I not already had my weekend Reptitive weekend blocked off for 16 cow gold and Germany and also quite a few people who
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ruin is maybe not the right word, but kind of wishing with this show was not taking place on another big weekend in New York.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we already have a couple of matches announced for vessel queen to mate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now the first match they have announced is a pretty big one at least from names and getting back in the sooner things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Chris Stattlander, of course, he is the current A-Women's Champion, but also the Ev International Champion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's going to be defending against someone who's going by under one name these days, Charlie, of course forming known as Dakota Kai, previously forming known as Evie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Believe that is going to be her first appearance since her WWE release earlier this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: elsewhere on the endcard bay announced Jamie Hater against Meary Muster and one not announced to expect based on what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The current Eve Champion Real, you would expect to take on the winner of the she-one tournament and
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, it's a bit of a sidebar, so she won't turn, we've been doing for a long one, I'll go back to the resistance gallery days, but it's a different format, it's no longer the four shows, intense found who I've been doing, but I was, you know, had someone injured by the end of a weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been done as a knockout format, but this time it's been split over two shows,
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, January you're getting a quarter finals on the semi-finals with the final on the February show and you'd expect to know quick turnaround from February to March for the title match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In terms of brackets 4, B.C.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 1, may so go through these now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they've been doing across the past few shows, but I guess pre-qualify matches are qualifiers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've used false terms interchangeably depending on the story or what fits.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in terms of the matches, so from the qualifiers we had a need of on-beat and vipers,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Amy Sakra-Beach and Rayne Lebecusen, Skysmits and Beach and Mewer in a spot which I guess if you have tolerance for comedy and wrestling is you know floor level you would not like the second to win viral and I am just going to leave it there absolutely not my grabs but you can see why people like this, Martin beats too young to qualify while Melissa Faes and Alexis Falcon had
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[SPEAKER_00]: Most Spartan beatfiles night, and on the show in November, Sapphire Reed overcame Danymo, which means we have these brackets for the quarterfinals on January 9th, this is a big penny social in Mortemstone, initiative on taking on the winner of Abbey Cartwright and X.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we sucker against Guy Smith since you have a quarterfinal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Martina and Lexus Falcons per third quarter final, Holy Spartan Sapphire reads a false or be initiative on and when of Abbey and X versus when of Emissacra Skysmitsum, Martina and Falcons when they're versus when of Spartan Sapphire read, there'll be two semi-finals in the final, we'll be taking place on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: February with six again big penny social for the multiverse rumble show and yeah looking base we're looking at two shows in March March 6th and big penny when March 8th today's later act the Indicolveo 2 so very much a packed line of eve going into 2026 and you know their promotion I went to a
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[SPEAKER_00]: the live show where there's a leeton counts in November, it's another one I want to get back to just because the atmosphere is completely different, released from the standard rest of being going to see if we have pro, but not a product which is valid as flaws, but you know, certainly wanted to want to dedicate an entire episode to other than, you know, quick tuned to Rumble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll be doing that in the new year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, say, the fact that you've got V.C.1 over two shows, then your big show at the end of the goal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot of big headline events in a short space of time, which could backfire or suppose, especially in this market and in this economy, but we'll see how it goes mean.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, say, the fact that it's flew out for the big tent pole show,
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[SPEAKER_00]: The interest is fair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think now it's just going to be case of what names do I get to round out the card and has if you're going in with the age of the impulse pretty much every month since this past summer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know whether that's a good hit a point of burnout but again that's something you can dive into at a later point but I don't want to go back to is
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[SPEAKER_00]: We, I can speak general feel of malaise across the emotions in London, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna full names out here and again, these are just my opinions and I'm pretty sure people listening to this will, you know, how the pop music's in all, how day you just misbehave clumpy, you don't like this, well, I think a lot of what I'm saying here, this isn't like me, you know, phone out of emotional, oh, I didn't like this fair for what sucks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One prune, what I'm putting forward is just what I'm seeing and how from a, you know, taking a step back, you know, not being, you know, not in the middle of a forest kind of view is just how this kind of looks me outside.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And all this year, there was a general feeling of a progress where starting to get back into a groove, sort of speak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Although then, not only in this autumn, we had GCW's blood sports pushing progress to the matinee spot, which is like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get, you know, blood sports a big name, but if you're willing to take in a back seat to that particular blood sports card, which was missing, you know, any kind of ten-pull name that would, you know, get people to it, it's, it's just weird like I get, you know, progress wanted to be partners with GCW, but putting your own show and, you know, literally calling out your own show as for one you can skip is just weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, heck, for fact,
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was always no demand progress when demand progress plus with, I guess for an important document there, now it's part of something called hooked on wrestling TV and it's like, that says a lot, without actually saying it, about what you perceive your brand to be valued as when your own promotion doesn't even have its own streaming platform.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Back in the day,
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[SPEAKER_00]: progress is on demand progress, okay, now it's on Trinity V, if you want to watch live stuff, but that's by the way, but fact that now, you know, their entire catalogue is just mushed into, I guess something that's trying to be like a bit raised equivalent of your high spot-snet work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess in terms of value for money great, but one, you know, maybe this has changed since I blocked on May and launch day, you can't actually see what the catalog is and as you were signed up paying member which, you know, is a hell of a way to, you know, convert people and hide the catalog behind the paywall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same point, it's also very much confusing of marketing it in and around progress where it's progress.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a result.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's hooked on wrestling TV.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, back in the day, you just got a progress in everything hard, but Brandon in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now as we head into 2026, it has been diluted into such a ridiculous level and if it's working with him great, but again, it's someone from the outside looking in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to your first show, and he's seen so many different brand names, so many different things,
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[SPEAKER_00]: which have been pointed to your way is vessel 2.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is vessel 2?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why has had something you want to remember from progress?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you want to go to the Taslamania.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is hooked on vessel and TV?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just such a confused offering.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's probably doing a lot more harm than good at least.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not for those who aren't already front and centre in the progress bubble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're in a path from no quiddles of a planting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You look away from the big tent pole shows and the tops of cards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My feeling is for juice just isn't there when it comes to the pitch scene for moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not in the same level in terms of the bulls, we were getting in 2016, 2017, 2018, you're not getting like
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if we were evolving dove big names like the dream matches, you know, if I'd used to be, you know, replos, puttin' buttets from the extent and right now, you know, if I have that many dreams, you know, back in the day, if we were putting a lot of names from New Japan, when they were ice hot, ice hot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess the school, my big baby, when they were very hot, now New Japan's ice cold and I guess this is the problem when a lot of your big show business is plucked from other people's wrestlers, you know, eventually organ and out of wrestlers who are hot and you know, all sell tickets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, early with here, we saw with the Mercedes money doing visit high stakes and donkaster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Granted with WrestleMania weekend, Granted with Easter Sunday, Granted with Donkaster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, at first time, Tom, who I've told, that was a show you'd have expected, who I've told to have sold out in heartbeat, and it wasn't close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, that's not a knock-on-reft post and knock-on money, it's not a knock-on-donkaster, maybe it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it just says, no, if this was, you know, seven years ago,
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[SPEAKER_00]: That show would have been sold out in an instant and look where we are now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess also where we are now is a completely different landscape as far as how wrestling fans perceive wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 10 years ago, the wide perception of WWE was not so great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fans were tired of the same old stuff, to be at least amongst no certain section of fan base, which independent wrestling invariably speaks to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now, you know, WWE for better for worse, you know, very much seem to be on a, on a, a surgeon at least in terms of, you know, the online fans, as in software as way, do tend to be, for everyone's in software to their own degrees.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, the rise in launch of AEW, you know, means which now you have that all turned it for the most part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, of Seb is
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[SPEAKER_00]: People who flocked to New Japan to, you know, Rev Pro to progress to wherever, as an alternative for WWE without leaving wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have their alternative now for most part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, the effects of a WWE, you know, they've taken a lot of the names from being, you know, Osprey, you know, Vine New Japan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, New Japan lost a lot of guys to a WWE which is meant for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan, they're still rebuilding, but certainly don't have the bulls and we must see value with very hard, even in the last six, seven years, got poor of a pandemic, again, procreation of AUW.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It must be my dead horse again, the sheer volume of wrestling help up itself there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're talking about what is it, you know, 3 hours of 2 hours of love, 3 hours of SmackDown, NXT, if you've ever watched what you've all that's there, if main event, you're talking to good, you know, let's say 6 hours, 6-7 hours, just for WWE.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then, towards a TNA, you know, if you're that much, you know, in the rabbit hole, then you've got, you know, four of a W5 and plus you want to add, you know, you're in the want to, and especially in Europe, you ain't watching the stuff alive for the most part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, that's pretty much every weeknight you are taking, watching, you know, catch a pressing, which means when it comes to a weekend where a lot of the end isn't very, very live.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, are you all restless out by then?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have a lot of stuff to do in the real world outside of?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, do we on Netflix?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, A, W, 1, Trilog, no, A, and other sites.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that is part of the issue which has been extremely unreported with the Indies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you've had the churn of names leaving for the new positions of being created.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Indies, I'm speaking in vast generalised terms here, have not done a good job in getting people ready to step up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not for varying competence, but just
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[SPEAKER_00]: the X-factors sort of speak that make people start to make a mistake.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's very few names out there where you'd go, I actually must see a Ben because XYZ, you know, yes, if you're watching no different scenes, for our names would jump out, but for someone from the outside hall of this, you're not seeing, I could grade all we had, you know, 10, 15 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: as world, as world gets it to more content, as you get to know, social media, TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube, we're so far removed from the days of just for five TV channels, I mean, UK and whatever sky-hat, just getting the attention now is hard of a never-so,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's kind of thing now where the amount of people who have time to get fully invested on the independence, I would say small whenever, because never mind, the mainstream stuff that's double degree A, W, and everything else that's fine for your attention, but then a lot of these independence now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: about running way more than they used to, not progress, not still, not monthly, but not left flow, like, they've run virtually weekly in 2025, you know, they've said, not hinting, we're going to run even more next year, which,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not my big criticism about RF Pro this year has been they've kind of morphed into GCWVUK.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will get under that in my next bit because I have a lot to say about but not sticking with the going back to the economy side of things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Back in the heyday first and like when I first started going to see RF Pro in what would be 2017.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Texture of the London Cockpit was monthly shows, was like £15.50, no you go with 20 quid and pay for your tube more likely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if you're going to wear a new venue purchase to haul, with fees you're looking to know thick and over 30 quids are nearly doubled.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, that's just one example and you can whack them off, no, no, ticker, ticker price and rest and gone up, but so is everything else in a bad inflation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's for you, you, everyone's costs, especially since the pandemic of sort, your electric bills will be gas bills will up, you know, food's got more expensive, you know, you rent, you mocks up, wages may be not so much, and I guess this will have rubbed me to rot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That crunch is absolutely going to start biting, especially when you increase your output.
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[SPEAKER_00]: slowly moving two of the towns, it can be a benefit, but it's also a gamble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, running 12 shows year in London, great, you know, you're running six in Sheffield, six in Steven, Steven, Steven, and Coventry next year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've haven't been liked to get the same harvest as them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you look at the towns like Steven, it's where, you know, they've dropped them free to two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The international dates and all about that, something which no could be problematic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, now if you're going to be one of those sickles and you know, thank you to hand up many, but back in the day plenty of them existed, one of those sickles who travel to every single web pro show across the country, it's getting unavoidable, and for you sure you're going to have now is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're on demand platforms, but what's a quitter month?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you're now for a point where, you know, watching the on demand because you had a yoke, col-shower, a quarter, and you know, a monthly cockpit, maybe a show elsewhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People maybe didn't see with value in that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nowadays, or when we have post-running virtually every weekend,
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I day quit a month, you know, it's, I don't say it's nothing, you know, well, if you compare to a price particular, it's nothing, but that's where the big risk hits is, if your product slips from being, I need to see if it's in person and then the extra cost of an of a travel and of drinks, etc.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Versus, you know what, I'm interested, I'll happily pay V8 pounds for this month because it was big show, X happening here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think it's worth going in person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the second for crowd you really want to avoid losing, because you check it's fairly quick, you use around number.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You all can have to sell what four on demands, just to make the same amount of pounds and pennies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's before you even take, not whatever it could.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a Vimeo takes for real on demand sets and granted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's probably a lot more profit in the VOD subscriptions, but if the end of the day if everyone shifts from going to watch it live and just watches it home on their phone, on the TV, on the laptop, it's a much different product, not watch live and certainly one of the knocks of the FPO has been, not just how quiet or crowd has been set, not safe for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A few chosen names shall we say, but yeah, as emotions continue to expand,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all well and good running shows on a weekly basis, but if you get to point where, you know, it wasn't too long ago, there was a show they ran in St. Neart's where I think they were barely hitting three figures for a crowd.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The granted is not St. Neart's not a venue where we run now, because the venue is not available.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But as good as the shows are, if you're not getting the bodies full of gates, you can know, have as many shows as you want, but if it then becomes unattractive to what, because you're playing front of empty chairs or if a crowd's silent, the next step is clicking cancel might feel a D subscription and yeah, it's a sleepy slope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I would certainly wouldn't want to be, you know, in charge of, you know, deciding dates on have you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's a whole thing from morning, Iceland.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you run the shows, you think you can, you know, sell tickets to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you have enough content to fail and, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, these days we're progressing, it is very much fat, it is content, a lot of matches that eventually should weave together to tell a story that wants to draw people back in for for more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, the, I guess, chaotic nature of how Rift Pro Shows seem to be coming together lately is also having a undesired effect, shall we say, but hopefully things will change
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did want to, except the big tent pole event from September still hasn't emerged.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The second tree was grown pretty, now we are recording with on the evening of December the 8th.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're about to, to and half of the sun from what we can do in Barcelona, and as we sat here now, we only have one of those two shows out in demand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And back in the day, you know, a long time bitter as fans will be painfully familiar with for the cry of when's it going to be on demand, you know, certainly it made John probably loses 10 per few times with fans on Twitter, but you know, about his fan misses now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This Barcelona show, it may be a very religious near-intercontinental title tournament in terms of it ever being a thing because here is the focus on the weekend, beyond guns, and Leon Slater, or the Ford Grafts, as winners with the trophies and what have you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, fact, we can just seem to be in hindsight, something from the World Shed for F-Pro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I say, beyond guns and Leon, one of the tournaments,
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in particular we're fully on slater, we've kind of hit a bit for dead end with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we intensifying relationship between WWE and TNA, it's actually on becoming something we regular on NXT and HECK.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's only just been announced for this weekend, Saturday night main event, main roster WWE now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to be all not tinfoiled, hush again and just go, is this contract tampering or that's not something I'm really too concerned of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But at this point, you know, you kind of have to say it's falsely on Slate, a little more not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: at least when it comes to the independence, but times come to just stop using him in anything of substance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had the live in London 100 show in October where Leon was meant to be taking a mystery point, which was returned in Leon Cage, except he got pulled for W.E.
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[SPEAKER_00]: stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Luke Jacobs replaced him, Matt Olwell and Good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This past weekend, reports live in London one or two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this heck of a Sunday we've got, you know, ReefPoreprising, where have you announced match?
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[SPEAKER_00]: While Shah Samyels defending the ReefPore title against a Jade Joshua and Leon Slater, except because now we know Leon's being booked for Saturday nights main event, ReefPore's had to pull him from there and where he did it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, didn't exactly go down well, you know, with Leon's coach Liam, basically saying but oh, his head isn't in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm rescinding him, crushing the trophy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to cast him when I say, but look, this is all a bit for me, and not for start for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I made this point and got shouted down for this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Leon Slater is contracted, much like how Danny Lunar is, and the point where her availability was very much up in the air, it was shows where she just couldn't be undisappeared from, because of TNA tapings, Leon's a step further than the fact that he very much has a double-duty spotlight on him right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I would not be stunned if in 2026 or whenever his TNA deals up, that contract is, you know, three sign bullets under a TKO deal with other than TNA, which, I mean, WWE doesn't exactly give as much spotlight to guys for no reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We solved with Jordan Gray's, we've seen with Joe Henry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We know how the story ends, people who were fans of Buddha as in 2015, 2016, 2018, when NXT UK was sniffing around, you knew how this was going to play out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The second WWE had that friendship or agreement with TNA, you knew it was going to happen and to be honest, I'm surprised, given Reft Pulse on history with WWE, but they kept the story gone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, the start for year, we had that big old laundry list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: of names who were very much calling for no, I want a title shot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be championed here and I think that JJ Gail's the only one who hasn't even had a shot, everyone else has had a shot and mostly lost.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, where we are now, we've got no rough pro having to deal with the fall out from the late of certainly being unavailable again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, look, you know, you can pretend that you know, double reef, you know, it's the only time I do it's because I believe you're outstanding theories, very having really on beat AJ Styles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then that's going to be the big match for the AMC debut of TNA New Year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not intended to sound heartless of this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care, as a fan of the independence, right now I can uncompare promotions, you know, booking Leon in notable positions at this point, to fuck me with the gold with keeps charging headfirst and to a log burner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, fire still hot, and as long as W3 still has an interest with TNA and bad interest in Leon, fire still burn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it's unfortunate is what it isn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No sentimental all we want to have really on have a very small short run of a title.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At this point you just have to cut your losses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, Bookham if he's available that I think for days of Leon Slater being anything substantial to the scene, you've just got to cut your losses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Enjoy it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can book him, but you just can't plan around him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Heck there's
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[SPEAKER_00]: who no short plenty of shows for granted of reasons, but would not draw back and, you know, harshest may be, the same treatment's got to be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can get them great, but times come to stop planning around Leon Slater.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because we're coming Sunday without Lyon, we have repro-applicing in Cardiff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is typically one of our tent pole shows, you know, the end of the year of Schoffer F. Pro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's in Cardiff, because AWS and town, which is why it's a venue of it, or a certificate of repro, haven't run for quite some time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're looking at February 23 and October 2017, for the only two times repro-have run in the City of Cardiff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, yeah, the card on paper looks solid, but if you've been watching the shows going in, it's been a lot of mental gymnastics to get to the show, and whether it's a written review or a new episode of Euroclutch will be something on voices wrestling about the show, a certain for myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But come through this line up, it's like, say, strong on paper to a point, but also a little bit under one because of various factors along the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I suppose to say the main event or I guess expected main event until Mercedes Monais much was Charles Summaryl's defending the VWF port title against now just Jay Joshua, cause Jay Joshua from Wales and you'd expect another big home town pop for him winning, especially considering that he came up short in Leon in France earlier this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you'd expect, but surely, you know, the commodities here, but there's something about this, especially, you know, a free late change to much and also, just how Jay Josh will look against, come and cayon, this past weekend show, you know, your big title contender pretty much, you know, taking, you know, 25% of a much, you know, 25% of a much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: against Cameron Kaihu, of all due respect, is an exactly pulling up trees and ref pro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's just a weird piece of booking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, we can look at that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Elsewhere we have got Mike Locue, against Connell's House, we first much announced for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Mike Locue being out injured for two months has meant that really they've not been able to do much of anything in terms of build.
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[SPEAKER_00]: First time we've met in three years on paper a big match, but again just feel somewhat lukewarm because we've not had all cool on shows and also conmilles as well, hasn't been on shows to build anything up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, a match that was announced first, but really has, you know, been there on paper and most on paper in terms of promotion and hype.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've really sold back in Rev Pro for the first time in the year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got a tag title match against for Young Guns.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Joel Andles, winning of a cruise rate title this past Sunday, was followed by the majority of the rev pro cruise weight roster coming out for scrap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Long-term fans will probably get deja vu for when Flash Morgan Webster won a cruise rate title and then lost to Curtis Chaplin a week later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This time round to Joseph and his technical aboyle suit, he's getting the Chris Wade's grumbled events, Robbie X stunning black, Leo Rush will cave in and others I suspect maybe a few extra names coming in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As for me recently to post champion Neenle Bryant, well he's failed up a bit strong but I can't think of anything better way to phrase this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's facing Ricochet in a match which very much can be taken across as Yorney lost for belt because you weren't beating
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, tinfoil hot time again, hey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One called mind is against tricky night juniors on the card.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I should be good, but there's just some about, you know, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one, Reft one
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[SPEAKER_00]: We also have David Francisco and his new sons of Southampton, that's a Kelly 6 and Josh James and hey, you know, scholars are wrestling how well do you know what have his work in wrestling?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you've been made express for new rockers, yeah, it's maybe got a different name lads.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to be taken on three to be announced from the card of scenes so we'd expect this would be this close to squash you get in a ref post or just a 15 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, because Mercedes money against Rio for money's worth poor women's title, again, this one's been built off a nom, but money matched on the announce for 10 days before the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So not too much ability can do, especially given how the government really had a long consistent room with Rio on shows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've also got a need of on against Alex Windsor's cultural collective stuff, Rumbles on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know very London Shower's past week and they had teased Nina Samuels, teaming with Alex Windsor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have the same poem of having Nina telling us, but she's a solo star, then one to go straight into tag match, which, I guess, her book for her out Vowam.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, cultural collective stuff still Rumbles on, the Alex Windsor's still trying to knock off everyone in the group.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She is part of a native on joining since I guess it's never, ever has never will be part of a group is very much in the firing line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess some paper, it's a strong carpet built, it's absolutely a new form of environmental gymnastics we had across the stuff with Leon Slater, really souring things as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, elsewhere, since I, you know, I can't really top up Trio's Grand Prix, sure, and I don't really want to go too much in the device because this was also, you know, two and a half months ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, the RxW did very Trio's Grand Prix, and I've had Trio's very Poe Wrestling Grand Prix in Oberhausen at the end of September.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, there was a fuller podcast on this if you head to backpot.com search for outifresser, uh, myself and Mike Kelby spoke for a while about the entire weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, a couple of storyline threads for our vats and we couldn't catch a round drop in tournament.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One by Hura, he's caching in or converting much tournament win to face a piece to honey, for the deluxe we unified world title in all the house miscleing weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Alia Bloom was a robot in the country to catch her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a street fight against a weapon Christopher forver to hire his manager against storyline implications for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The world tag team termed across one by the greedy souls.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They went back in November to win the tag titles on Plank of Giro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: then lost from a week later, because poor feud, throughout it, works to be used for 25th anniversary tournament, has been caudier against the grind, that is, what the drives can mark empire, as plans caudier, the grind loans, roamin' in Nick Shire, a few that's been rumbling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pimitron on off-since said, the whole Ambos group split up just over 18 months ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's the first coming Saturday 24th anniversary show from Oberhausen, Germany, that's on Trilogy TV.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Plus, I'm going to explain now, well worth a look and it's going to be one that will be speaking in a bit more depth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In our end of year, special and one that also be code on After Effects, of course.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but that will just about do it for this later step-sode of Euroclutch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a while I could say real-life stuff said, you know, very much taken up a lot of my time lately and you know, this past Sunday was probably the last to put her show be going to for a long while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not as mentioned, there had been going to be a pro mostly on an off-since 2017, 25 for me, it's been a year where it's not as much as it was, but very much not being the best year in terms of creative sense of pandemic, it was you've been watching or read my writing elsewhere and back body drop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've stopped snow-coding repulse since this past summer and restarted this year's where a sense for wheels will stand to come off at least in terms of how I viewed products.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was only so many ways you can watch them try to hammer jigsaw pieces into the wrong place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At least for your point of view.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, the shows were fine, but live, it's the ref-port template just keeps coming up again and again to buy from the back side and adding the fact that they run, so often that they are now being actively compared by people around the place to GCWMUK.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a whole thing, if everything's special, nothing special and with me, that's where we have poor ways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can throw a big match in the show and say, this card's special will great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But how do you say something isn't how you treat something?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, especially for being around a long while, you can see straight through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People's actions speak loud and words, I guess what they should say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I'm not a person level being told and yeah if this is me taking stuff in a long way but you know, being in directly told you over a long kind of fun, not for best time to be getting comments like that and certainly stuff which kept me very much souring on the motion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, companies turn around, no one can be hot all the time, no one can be cold all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My own consent of Rev Pro going into 2026 is, you know, running back in tenured schedule.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to have room to stop and breathe, you know, going into 2025, they didn't run much in January.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And unfortunately, it didn't need to, you know, I turned on such, but that's kind of where, you know, the drop of filming heck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You start at the end of 2024, the big Iron Man match at your calls as Iron Lee on Slater.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, supposedly, you know, for future of FFP on, and for certainly way, as I went to Paris and Norway and wasn't in FFP for most of the first quarter year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, we know where he is now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lee on Slater, despite losing my Iron Man match,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, was given more prominence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He won rational, dimensional, the star of the next generation, rivalry with Mike Locke and Donkaster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we know how that's ending with here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Truth be told, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have another book to rest and show my life, but a bit of advice, a free in terms of reducing how chaotic, where it all seems to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Take six names and the men's division takes six cruise weight names, take six names for women's division types, and really don't think it's for strength and depth, but she takes six type of teams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Know who you want to have as your next stars and prepare to push them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not have more do the gold broke win win win It'd be expensive everyone else, but have all six guys with six cruise weights for six type teams for six classes have them be Spotlight you're running enough shows where you can have no people not
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[SPEAKER_00]: in these positions and not be on a show in January, never seen again till March.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Book them plan, get the dates and just prepare for these guys to be ready.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you do get your next big show at short notice, you've got someone invariably if you've done the job right, ready to step in rather than, like we've seen this year, crap, we've got a show come a quick mini tournament.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Crap, let's do it, have it feel like stuff has a meaning, not just because, you know, when big show comes round, you can point to like, see, this means something now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have stuff feel like it has importance in meaning in the moment, and the people who are watching live on stream will feel a little better for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, that's going to do it for us, you know, I say, I really don't like being down in the report.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I stopped covering my eyes closely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I hope things turn on in 2020, 6, but yeah, we will need to say it, but again, thanks listen everyone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can have, as things that will have one more episode for the end of year, calling over a pricing from our purpose weekend, and the next week is 25th anniversary, but no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In the first case, if we're not enough, you don't get to listen to proper holidays, have a happy holidays, be safe, enjoy time with family and loved ones, and we'll see you soon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Adios.
