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Speaker 1: Approache production. The phone's ringing and it's playing that message, like the ten second message, and then I just felt like two taps on that side and one on that side. And as soon as it happened, like I hadn't been stabbed before, but I just knew, you know, from all the warnings, and like you know, I was just like bang, I've turned. These two have tried to run into one spot and fallen over each other.
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Speaker 2: You're kidding me, what crocks?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they all ran, bro they all just like bang and ran. Yes, So I've turned my back straight away. The first thing in my head was my spine. I didn't I've seen someone get hitting the spine before and just parallel lock drop. You know, they can't move. So I've just put my back to the fence and I'm skipped up to the front and just held my back back to the fence. Two of them come up and they're like going ah, like screaming at me with the Lockmohicans or something. Well, I've gone to hit one of them. The other one's just gone bang bang. You know. I've tried to spin got hit again, like ended up getting hit nine times. The third bloke that hit me first, he actually didn't come back for the whole thing. So the whole time I just knew it was these two and didn't know who the other person was. Son. I've got my back to the fence again. I heard the squad going fucking get out, rah rah rah, and I've sort of looked and seen them there and that they started spraying the gas. I've tried to go under, and I've seen their feet coming in, so they must have thought I wasn't looking anymore, but like I had my hat on and I could see their feet coming. So I've jumped up and like throwing a kick or like through a like faint kick, you know, just to like get them back, and they've jumped back, and then I've jumped down again and just kept watching their feet. Their squads ran in there, like get on the ground, stay there, rah rah, and I just look in my head. I was just thinking, there's no way I'm waiting here for the clinic and getting rolled out in a fucking wheelchair and all that shit. And I just stood straight up. I said, no, I'm fucking sweet. And then I remember I went to walk out the gate and they've just looked at mix off. What I'll fucking walk to the clinic and I and they were just like looked at me like I was a ghost or something, you know, And I thought, fuck, I must have a lot of blood on me, like I don't know, you know, like they were in shocked when they see me stand up and walk to them. And I didn't realize later, but I was just red, like just fucking red all over. So yeah, they got me all right, but there was there was a lot of blood. But the worst thing that happened was I got a punctured lung.
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Speaker 2: It's amazing what adrenaline does.
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Speaker 3: He brother, It's amazing the adrenaline, Like you know, like I remember that I got stabbed in the leg in the middle of a fight once and I all I felt was this this real cold feeling all of a sudden, like it was.
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Speaker 2: It was. It was a weird feeling.
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Speaker 3: Like I mean, obviously you know what I'm talking about. It's like you know you've been hit, but then you're just like it's not until you actually see the blood and you realize, oh, fuck, I've been pumped, you.
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Speaker 2: Know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's that's what I was. Like. I couldn't feel it you know, and like if they come to looking at you, like, you know, fuck all this blood and sheit. I can't feel nothing, like in my head like I'm thinking I'll fucking kill you count or or like I'm just like what the fuck is that. I can't see anything gave it because it's all in my back. So I'm just like, I don't know what's happened. And yeah, so I'm walking over to the clinic. The screws are telling me to hurry up, and shit boys are yelling out to me, and I'm like, yeah, I'm fucking sweet, bro, no no effect and shit like running them once.
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Speaker 2: Unbelievable and what did they do?
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Speaker 3: Did they just obviously they would they would have moved on to another jail from there or got you out of there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And they're like, I come back and I was only there for a couple of days, and I said, no, I want to go out. I want to go out. They're like, oh, you're not going in that yard, you know, And then they just put me in the next shot. I lit. I walked straight up to the fence and looked straight at the yards. I didn't know if they still had friends in there or who supported them, but I know that whoever's in there is going to speak to them, you know. So I just started doing squats. I just remember I couldn't I couldn't move my arms proply in that. So I thought I'm going to do legs, you know, and just started doing squats, just staring into the yard.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to show them like no effect, you know, even though like, yeah, I was seen a bit of pain.
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Speaker 2: I'll give you credit, but I'll give you credit, you know, like I mean, that's yeah, it's yeah. It's one. It's one thing to get you know what I mean, sneak ad.
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Speaker 3: But then when you're getting sneak aed by two or three and you know you're getting blades pumped in here, that's that's a different ball game because you don't know where they're going to come from and where they're going to hit, you know.
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Speaker 2: So you're very lucky to still be here obviously. Off that one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, and I thought, fuck two years, I'm going to run into someone or someone that's connected to them, or someone that I'm expected to stab back, and you know, and yeah I did. I had blades on me for months and months, and the good thing that happened was that I went back to Silk Water like a couple of weeks later, they took my pencils off me. I'd been drawing in the hospital and drawing at Goldman. Well, then I got to the wing, had ice and up and heaps of other ship and ended up having a phone and so I was like, oh, fuck this, I'm going to be up all night. One of the Courry boys, yeah, I was in the four out too, so I looked out. They said, yeah, but they've got the what's it called the He was doing a mural on the office. They were letting him paint a mural on the office, this aboriginal artist. I'm like, oh, bro, give me some paint, you know, because careful what your paint broke, because I'm not allowed to give it out, like you aren't meant to have it. And I'm like, yeah, sweet bro, just give me some fucking went in painted the noticeboard and I was like, fuck it, I don't know how to paint broke because you give me a couple of brushes and I was like, oh, maybe I'll just do what he does with the dots and that. So I just like thought, all right, I'm going to do a viking with dots, you know. And I did a viking in one corner, and then I did a scarecrow and a skull with fu the diamonds, clubs, spades and that, but all in dots because I didn't know how to use the brush. I remember, yeah, I remember as soon as I started doing that because I'd been coloring in, like, I remember putting like the I got green because green is my favorite color. So I was like, I'll start with green with this green.
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Speaker 2: Green be your favorite color, Lafe.
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Speaker 1: It's not blue.
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Speaker 2: I fucking hate green. Made like ill more green. I hate green. Made it just you know, yeah, it's just green.
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Speaker 1: What color would I want everyone to dress in?
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Speaker 2: Yeh, that's exactly right.
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Speaker 3: That's all you wear in the system down there is fucking green or orange.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I so yeah, I put that first dot of pain and I just remember like it just like sucked me in, you know, like the color was so vibrant. I don't know if it was the enhancement of the substances I was on, but it just sucked me right in, like and I was just like, fuck, man, this is sick, you know, Like the color it is so intense. And then so I kept painting, kept painting. Painted. The next night, I started getting paper and painted on paper and just started. I went to Lift Go a few weeks later. Boys like once you go to another jail, you can get paint to get them on activities and stuff. So I've got boys that had paint and I'm like, boys, who's got paints? I'll give you his pub you know, like Buffy started swapping caps for paint and started painting every and I'm thinking, fuck, people are going to think I'm I'm going batshit because I've just been stabbed and all I want to do is paint, you know what I mean. They're all like, what's going to happen? Pat Her, you know, like who We're going to get all this shit, you know, and I'm like, I want to paint, bro.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So it was like it was weird, but it was also a thing that I thought, you know what, like this is going to drive me because I know people are going to think I'm going crazy and they're going to doubt me. And every time I get at it in life is when I fucking stand up and like that's when I really pushed, you know. So It really pushed me further, and I thought, I'm just gonna I'm going to become so good at this that I'm going to be fucking on TV. I'm going to be fucking in galleries all around the world, and like I'm going to make all them doubt as fucking think, what the fuck has happened? You know?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: I love that, Bro. I love that. That's well said. Good, good motivation, good Rob. And I think too if you want to look at it from a bit of a spiritual point of view, I mean, you obviously were given a second chance after that stabbing, because you know, like you said, it could have gone real bad and only just missing. So you know, life could have been very different if maybe you not even be here. So you've taken on something that you literally were gifted, I suppose, if you want to really look at it from that point of view, and was given an opportunity to change your ways through your.
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Speaker 1: Art, Yeah for sure, and that that Like I've said this on another thing, but the ketamine, Like when they gave me that ketamine, it's like it was like a spiritual awakening. It's like I got sent into another dimension. I thought I was dead at one point and I thought, with my Buddhist beliefs, I thought I was going to be reborn. I thought I was going through these wires and it was the helicopter noise doing it to me. It was going, and every time it would go, I'd turned. So I was just gone, bang bang bang bang bang, just like every fucking quarter of a second. And it would change my thought every quarter of a second. But I still had this overthought of like I'm being reborn, Like I've died and I'm being reborn. I'm in the like you know what some people would call the matrix now, Like you know, I'm in the like I mean, I'm going to the afterlife for another dimension and I'm going to pop out transition. Say, yeah, I thought I was in that, and I'm like, shit, something's going to happen, you know. So after that, it was like it really opened my eyes to stuff, and I thought like it was like I it was like I'd experienced like a different energy of life for the first time, like just like I was closer to life than I'd ever been or understanding it. It was just yeah, but it just made me want one. It sort of flicked my brain from like wanting revenge to just wanting good and you know, I just want good, not I can help people, I can do good things in life and stuff like that, you know.
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Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't have to, Yeah, I definitely do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have to be full of revenge forever. Like it never ends, you know, like after years of jail, you're just like it just grows and it's snowballs. But you know what I mean, sometimes you have to let go of that and turn it positive.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I like that well said, and I think that that's that is so true. And sometimes you know, it was as bad as it is, you know, and hearing that, you know, you literally getting pumped on on times with a blade, I mean that, Yeah, that's that's that's jail.
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Speaker 2: I get it. But it's not nice but for anyone to have to go through.
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Speaker 3: But in saying that, it's almost like it was your God sent You're blessing in disguise. I suppose to say to you, look, this is not life anymore. You've got to get your shit together.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Someone. Yeah, I've said that to a few people that like they're like, oh, fuck, what happened when you got stabbed? And I'm like, fuck, I cannot thank them enough, Like when they stabbed me, not not the stabbing, but what happened after. If I didn't get stabbed, that wouldn't have happened. So I feel like, you know, like a big thanks to them, like if I can change my life,
Speaker 1: Approache production. The phone's ringing and it's playing that message, like the ten second message, and then I just felt like two taps on that side and one on that side. And as soon as it happened, like I hadn't been stabbed before, but I just knew, you know, from all the warnings, and like you know, I was just like bang, I've turned. These two have tried to run into one spot and fallen over each other.
00:00:38
Speaker 2: You're kidding me, what crocks?
00:00:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, they all ran, bro they all just like bang and ran. Yes, So I've turned my back straight away. The first thing in my head was my spine. I didn't I've seen someone get hitting the spine before and just parallel lock drop. You know, they can't move. So I've just put my back to the fence and I'm skipped up to the front and just held my back back to the fence. Two of them come up and they're like going ah, like screaming at me with the Lockmohicans or something. Well, I've gone to hit one of them. The other one's just gone bang bang. You know. I've tried to spin got hit again, like ended up getting hit nine times. The third bloke that hit me first, he actually didn't come back for the whole thing. So the whole time I just knew it was these two and didn't know who the other person was. Son. I've got my back to the fence again. I heard the squad going fucking get out, rah rah rah, and I've sort of looked and seen them there and that they started spraying the gas. I've tried to go under, and I've seen their feet coming in, so they must have thought I wasn't looking anymore, but like I had my hat on and I could see their feet coming. So I've jumped up and like throwing a kick or like through a like faint kick, you know, just to like get them back, and they've jumped back, and then I've jumped down again and just kept watching their feet. Their squads ran in there, like get on the ground, stay there, rah rah, and I just look in my head. I was just thinking, there's no way I'm waiting here for the clinic and getting rolled out in a fucking wheelchair and all that shit. And I just stood straight up. I said, no, I'm fucking sweet. And then I remember I went to walk out the gate and they've just looked at mix off. What I'll fucking walk to the clinic and I and they were just like looked at me like I was a ghost or something, you know, And I thought, fuck, I must have a lot of blood on me, like I don't know, you know, like they were in shocked when they see me stand up and walk to them. And I didn't realize later, but I was just red, like just fucking red all over. So yeah, they got me all right, but there was there was a lot of blood. But the worst thing that happened was I got a punctured lung.
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Speaker 2: It's amazing what adrenaline does.
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Speaker 3: He brother, It's amazing the adrenaline, Like you know, like I remember that I got stabbed in the leg in the middle of a fight once and I all I felt was this this real cold feeling all of a sudden, like it was.
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Speaker 2: It was. It was a weird feeling.
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Speaker 3: Like I mean, obviously you know what I'm talking about. It's like you know you've been hit, but then you're just like it's not until you actually see the blood and you realize, oh, fuck, I've been pumped, you.
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Speaker 2: Know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's that's what I was. Like. I couldn't feel it you know, and like if they come to looking at you, like, you know, fuck all this blood and sheit. I can't feel nothing, like in my head like I'm thinking I'll fucking kill you count or or like I'm just like what the fuck is that. I can't see anything gave it because it's all in my back. So I'm just like, I don't know what's happened. And yeah, so I'm walking over to the clinic. The screws are telling me to hurry up, and shit boys are yelling out to me, and I'm like, yeah, I'm fucking sweet, bro, no no effect and shit like running them once.
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Speaker 2: Unbelievable and what did they do?
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Speaker 3: Did they just obviously they would they would have moved on to another jail from there or got you out of there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And they're like, I come back and I was only there for a couple of days, and I said, no, I want to go out. I want to go out. They're like, oh, you're not going in that yard, you know, And then they just put me in the next shot. I lit. I walked straight up to the fence and looked straight at the yards. I didn't know if they still had friends in there or who supported them, but I know that whoever's in there is going to speak to them, you know. So I just started doing squats. I just remember I couldn't I couldn't move my arms proply in that. So I thought I'm going to do legs, you know, and just started doing squats, just staring into the yard.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to show them like no effect, you know, even though like, yeah, I was seen a bit of pain.
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Speaker 2: I'll give you credit, but I'll give you credit, you know, like I mean, that's yeah, it's yeah. It's one. It's one thing to get you know what I mean, sneak ad.
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Speaker 3: But then when you're getting sneak aed by two or three and you know you're getting blades pumped in here, that's that's a different ball game because you don't know where they're going to come from and where they're going to hit, you know.
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Speaker 2: So you're very lucky to still be here obviously. Off that one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, and I thought, fuck two years, I'm going to run into someone or someone that's connected to them, or someone that I'm expected to stab back, and you know, and yeah I did. I had blades on me for months and months, and the good thing that happened was that I went back to Silk Water like a couple of weeks later, they took my pencils off me. I'd been drawing in the hospital and drawing at Goldman. Well, then I got to the wing, had ice and up and heaps of other ship and ended up having a phone and so I was like, oh, fuck this, I'm going to be up all night. One of the Courry boys, yeah, I was in the four out too, so I looked out. They said, yeah, but they've got the what's it called the He was doing a mural on the office. They were letting him paint a mural on the office, this aboriginal artist. I'm like, oh, bro, give me some paint, you know, because careful what your paint broke, because I'm not allowed to give it out, like you aren't meant to have it. And I'm like, yeah, sweet bro, just give me some fucking went in painted the noticeboard and I was like, fuck it, I don't know how to paint broke because you give me a couple of brushes and I was like, oh, maybe I'll just do what he does with the dots and that. So I just like thought, all right, I'm going to do a viking with dots, you know. And I did a viking in one corner, and then I did a scarecrow and a skull with fu the diamonds, clubs, spades and that, but all in dots because I didn't know how to use the brush. I remember, yeah, I remember as soon as I started doing that because I'd been coloring in, like, I remember putting like the I got green because green is my favorite color. So I was like, I'll start with green with this green.
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Speaker 2: Green be your favorite color, Lafe.
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Speaker 1: It's not blue.
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Speaker 2: I fucking hate green. Made like ill more green. I hate green. Made it just you know, yeah, it's just green.
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Speaker 1: What color would I want everyone to dress in?
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Speaker 2: Yeh, that's exactly right.
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Speaker 3: That's all you wear in the system down there is fucking green or orange.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I so yeah, I put that first dot of pain and I just remember like it just like sucked me in, you know, like the color was so vibrant. I don't know if it was the enhancement of the substances I was on, but it just sucked me right in, like and I was just like, fuck, man, this is sick, you know, Like the color it is so intense. And then so I kept painting, kept painting. Painted. The next night, I started getting paper and painted on paper and just started. I went to Lift Go a few weeks later. Boys like once you go to another jail, you can get paint to get them on activities and stuff. So I've got boys that had paint and I'm like, boys, who's got paints? I'll give you his pub you know, like Buffy started swapping caps for paint and started painting every and I'm thinking, fuck, people are going to think I'm I'm going batshit because I've just been stabbed and all I want to do is paint, you know what I mean. They're all like, what's going to happen? Pat Her, you know, like who We're going to get all this shit, you know, and I'm like, I want to paint, bro.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So it was like it was weird, but it was also a thing that I thought, you know what, like this is going to drive me because I know people are going to think I'm going crazy and they're going to doubt me. And every time I get at it in life is when I fucking stand up and like that's when I really pushed, you know. So It really pushed me further, and I thought, I'm just gonna I'm going to become so good at this that I'm going to be fucking on TV. I'm going to be fucking in galleries all around the world, and like I'm going to make all them doubt as fucking think, what the fuck has happened? You know?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: I love that, Bro. I love that. That's well said. Good, good motivation, good Rob. And I think too if you want to look at it from a bit of a spiritual point of view, I mean, you obviously were given a second chance after that stabbing, because you know, like you said, it could have gone real bad and only just missing. So you know, life could have been very different if maybe you not even be here. So you've taken on something that you literally were gifted, I suppose, if you want to really look at it from that point of view, and was given an opportunity to change your ways through your.
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Speaker 1: Art, Yeah for sure, and that that Like I've said this on another thing, but the ketamine, Like when they gave me that ketamine, it's like it was like a spiritual awakening. It's like I got sent into another dimension. I thought I was dead at one point and I thought, with my Buddhist beliefs, I thought I was going to be reborn. I thought I was going through these wires and it was the helicopter noise doing it to me. It was going, and every time it would go, I'd turned. So I was just gone, bang bang bang bang bang, just like every fucking quarter of a second. And it would change my thought every quarter of a second. But I still had this overthought of like I'm being reborn, Like I've died and I'm being reborn. I'm in the like you know what some people would call the matrix now, Like you know, I'm in the like I mean, I'm going to the afterlife for another dimension and I'm going to pop out transition. Say, yeah, I thought I was in that, and I'm like, shit, something's going to happen, you know. So after that, it was like it really opened my eyes to stuff, and I thought like it was like I it was like I'd experienced like a different energy of life for the first time, like just like I was closer to life than I'd ever been or understanding it. It was just yeah, but it just made me want one. It sort of flicked my brain from like wanting revenge to just wanting good and you know, I just want good, not I can help people, I can do good things in life and stuff like that, you know.
00:10:32
Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't have to, Yeah, I definitely do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have to be full of revenge forever. Like it never ends, you know, like after years of jail, you're just like it just grows and it's snowballs. But you know what I mean, sometimes you have to let go of that and turn it positive.
00:10:53
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:10:53
Speaker 3: I like that well said, and I think that that's that is so true. And sometimes you know, it was as bad as it is, you know, and hearing that, you know, you literally getting pumped on on times with a blade, I mean that, Yeah, that's that's that's jail.
00:11:07
Speaker 2: I get it. But it's not nice but for anyone to have to go through.
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Speaker 3: But in saying that, it's almost like it was your God sent You're blessing in disguise. I suppose to say to you, look, this is not life anymore. You've got to get your shit together.
00:11:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Someone. Yeah, I've said that to a few people that like they're like, oh, fuck, what happened when you got stabbed? And I'm like, fuck, I cannot thank them enough, Like when they stabbed me, not not the stabbing, but what happened after. If I didn't get stabbed, that wouldn't have happened. So I feel like, you know, like a big thanks to them, like if I can change my life,
