Church & State - The Creator's Code with Dr James Marcum

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Spokane Valley could become a sanctuary city of a different kind.
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Councilman Caleb Collier says that this proposal... I'm proposing that
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the city of Spokane Valley issue a proclamation stating that
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our city is a Second Amendment sanctuary.
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Welcome to the fire. Welcome to the fire.
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Today on Church and State, The Creator Code with Dr.
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James Markham. Hello, Christian Patriots, and welcome to the Caleb
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Collier Show of Church and State Media, where we drive
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morality and religion over tolerance and apathy. And I'm your host,
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Caleb Collier, once again, your favorite far-right shock jock, and
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bring to you Dr. James Markham. He's the Speaker Director
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of HeartWise Ministry. It's a 501c3 nonprofit. He's a practicing
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cardiologist in one of the most beautiful cities I've ever
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been in, Chattanooga, Tennessee.
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Dr.
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Markham specializes in disease reversal. He's active with syndicated television, radio,
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social media ministry, and he's also the author of the book,
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The Ultimate Prescription and the Medicine That Kills.
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Dr.
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Markham, it is an absolute pleasure to have you on
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Church Estate.
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Well, thank you, Caleb. It's just a pleasure to be
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with you today and to talk about this message that
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That's been given to me by God, I think, to
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share with our world when we have some of the
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worst health problems ever. And unfortunately, we just don't practitioners
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don't have the tools they need to solve the problem.
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So this book is a compilation basically of my entire life.
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I'm 63 years old. I practiced for over 35 years. Caleb,
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I still work three days a week in the hospital
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doing acute care cardiologists. The other four days I spend
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in media, getting the message out, making new content. But
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the most important thing I think I do every day
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is pray and read my Bible and connect with my
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creator and get the power that comes from only the
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Holy Spirit and to get that message out to the
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world about how we have a real healer that has
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answers to my problems, to your problems. And unfortunately, I've
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had most of the problems I talk about in the book.
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I had a heart attack when I was age 40.
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I'm 63 now. I have diabetes. I've had a lot
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of these medical problems. I've also dealt with patients from
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all over the world that had serious problems. I saw
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that you have worked in the medical field in the past. So,
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you know, people come with needs. They have real needs.
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And the first thing that I try to do is
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meet their needs. We try to love them and not
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judge them, introduce them to a source of truth, and
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then work on reversing their disease, both in the short
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term as well as the long term. So I can't
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deal with people all over. I got people coming. They've
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had three bypasses, 10 stents. They're on 14 medicines. They
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can't walk across the room because they're having chest pain.
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And they want some help. So this book... is my
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way of giving them help. The steps that I live
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in my life, the steps that I use that work,
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that give evidence-based medicine, but more than important to that,
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the real source of truth that I prove in this
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book is the Bible. The principles in the Bible are
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far ahead of modern medicine. I just was dealing with
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a friend that he's down in Argentina with the American
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College of Cardiology. He's talking about all the, quote, great
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technology that we have. And I admit, we have some
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of the greatest technology to keep people alive everywhere. But
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I think even a greater technology is biblical technology. The
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truth in the Bible that when we can apply it
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to our lives and make our lives better and also
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share it with our friends and neighbors, what could be
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more powerful technology than that? So I lay out this,
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and I call it the Creator's Code because it deals
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with a lot of genetics. You know, they say the
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language of God is the DNA. And the DNA was
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discovered not too long ago. We now know how the
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DNA talks to cells. So that's sort of like our
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hardwire programing. Then we have the software, the epigenetics that
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determine the hardware. And so we focus a lot on that.
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And one of the things that I incorporate that I
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don't think anyone else does in the entire world is
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how worship changes our physiology, our chronic inflammation genes, how
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it turns on and off these pathways of especially the
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NFKB pathways. This is the programming in our body that
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turns on and off inflammatory genes, interleukin-6, interleukin-B, those type
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of inflammation, the chronic inflammation that happens when our body's
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under stress. We'll worship resting turns off those chronic genetic
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genes that are fueling some of our epigenetic changes that's
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changing our entire physiology. In fact, not too long ago,
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Charlie Kirk was experiencing this remarkable change in his body
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just by taking a day off, a day of rest.
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So he had me come out to his church and
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and talk to them about the specific physiology. What really
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happens when we worship? What really happens when we pray? Well,
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there's real genetics that are going on. Methylation, histone modifications,
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change in brain chemistry, the way things are turned off
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and on. There's real physiology that's been given to us
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in the Bible. And now we have some of the
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science to prove, once again, that the Bible's true, that
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we can apply the truths in the Bible, even if
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we don't have the specific science behind it. So Roger
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Schwalt and I, who is an expert on how to
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use the sunlight in changing our physiology, we came up
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with this book, The Creator's Code. And in it, we
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give you and I and everyone simple steps. They don't
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cost a lot of money. There's not a lot of gimmicks.
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They use the principles in modern medicine and lifestyle medicine.
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but they put us on a path where God can
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guide us in the way we need to take care
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of this temple that he blessed us with.
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I got to say, this is fascinating. I wish more
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of modern medicine would go down this road. You know,
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you said something in the beginning, and I want to
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dissect a lot of what you just talked about. But
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you said something in the beginning about how we have
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all this modern tech that can keep people alive, but
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it's quality of life. And as a former EMT, I
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used to joke that I was going to get a
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DNR tattooed on my chest. Because, I mean, honestly, I'd
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see these people that, yeah, they were holding on to life,
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but at what cost? Nobody wants to live as a
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vegetable or a vegetative state. And so if we can
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do something through re-examining modern medicine, re-examining the technology, and
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seeing if maybe God, the Bible, what it talks about,
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that there's a better way of life, I am all
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for it. But before we get there, Dr., I want
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to go a little bit into your history because I
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read this and I was fascinated by it. And I
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think for the audience's sake, they're going to be really
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interested in this. You alluded to it or you talked
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about it. You said you had a heart attack. at 40.
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But as I understand it, you were on a ski lift.
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You're a cardiologist. And all of a sudden you go
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down and that's really what started the journey. Can you
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go into that for the audience?
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Yeah. Well, at a young age, I knew that God
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wanted me to go into medicine. Because at a young age,
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I had an accident where they thought I was going
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to have to have my arm amputated. And through prayer
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and a great orthopedic surgeon, I just lost some four
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or five fingers. And I'm probably one of the few
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people in America that can grow hair on the palm
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of my hand and also have a tanned hand. But
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through a miracle, God taught me to use it, and
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I decided to go into medicine. Now, of course, I
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wanted to go into cardiovascular surgery, but no one's going
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to let someone operate it that doesn't have a great
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functional hand. So I went into cardiology. So here I
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am as a cardiologist, living the life, learning all of
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this stuff. And cardiology has grown a lot over the
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35 years. I started before we had stents, before we
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had defibrillators, before we had ablations, all of this technology.
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So as I'm going through, I'm just starting my practice,
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have two kids, live in Chattanooga. And I said, I'm
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going to get away for a great week. I need
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to get away. So we go up to Colorado. Great
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skiing up there. I love to ski. So we're up
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there skiing, and I'm up in the high altitude, which
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I'm not used to in Tennessee. Cold weather, which I'm
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not used to. Now, skiing down these black slope moguls,
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I was loving it. Unfortunately, I was probably doing a
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little bit more energy stimulants than I needed to. That
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was the perfect milieu for me to have a type
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of heart attack called a coronary spasm. Now, a lot
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of people don't realize that there's different types of heart attacks.
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They all feel the same. So here I am. My
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friends have already skied down the slopes. I'm up on
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top of this black slope. It's late in the day.
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No cell phones, okay? And there I am. I get
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off the lift, and boom, the crushing chest pain, beads
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of sweat, shortness of breath, felt my heart racing, dropped
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to my knees, and I knew I was having a
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heart attack. I knew it. I knew it. And I said, oh, no, God,
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you know, I know I've been busy with my career.
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I've been doing things. I've been trying to help people.
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But is this it for me right now? My friends
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were already down, and I just prayed a prayer. God,
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just why is this happening? Please, please help me. So
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after about 30 minutes of just recovering, no one else
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is coming down. No one's coming to help me. I say, listen,
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I either stay here and freeze in the snow, or
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I try to make it down the slope. So I pray,
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and supernatural power came, and somehow I inched my way
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down the slope. Took me over 30 minutes. I knew
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if I fell, it was all over. I couldn't fall.
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No one else was coming. It was one of the
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late in the days. It was getting dark. So I
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make it down to the bottom. My friends were there. Hey,
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why did it take so long, Jim? And I said, well,
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you know, I'm having a heart attack. I need some help,
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you know? And they go, oh, yeah, you look white.
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You look pale. You don't look so good. So they
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took me to the hospital. And if you go X
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amount of time without getting blood to the muscle, it dies, okay?
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And luckily I didn't die suddenly from an arrhythmia on
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top of the mountain. There were no defibrillators up there.
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So somehow they got me to the emergency room. They
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took me to the cath lab, take a picture of
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my artery, said, oh, and the cardiologist, oh, yeah, we
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see lots of these. These are coronary spasms. We get people,
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they get hypoxic, they get high altitude, they get too
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much adrenaline. They're artery spasms like this. Then everything south dies.
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could have opened it up, but it stayed dead. And
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of course he opened it. And when blood doesn't move,
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it clots. So all downstream, all down that vessel was
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clotted off. The muscle was died. He tried to pull
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some of it out, but I lost most of my
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muscle there. So at that time, I sheepishly call my
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wife and said, Sonia, I'm so sorry. I'm in bad shape.
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I had a heart attack. I'm going to make it home.
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So then when I came home, Caleb, my whole world changed.
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I said, God, I saw the world differently. I saw
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it one day at a time. And I said, I
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want to do everything I can to protect my arteries
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from disease. And then I looked at what I was practicing,
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and I realized modern medicine is great at keeping people alive,
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but we don't do very well at preventing disease. So
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that's when I started my journey. I started a 501c3.
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I started talking about things on the radio. At first,
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I was heavy into nutrition, you know, and I got
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to hang out with Esselstyn at the Cleveland Clinic, who
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was reversing disease with nutrition. I got to China study
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with T. Colin Campbell. I got to do all of that.
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that that they're so much more than nutrition. I realize
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it's all the stressors in life that cause inflammation, that
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damages the endothelium. All of these factors cause the endothelium
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to be damaged. We get plaque, we get problems with it.
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Then we get cardiovascular disease. But then I kept thinking,
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you know, As I've learned this, it goes for chronic disease.
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And I realize that all of these disease states, many
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that we have, we are doing a terrible job of
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giving people the tools they need to prevent the problems.
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Just for example, just the statistics came out from 2024.
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Did you know that in healthcare, we're spending about $ 4. 5
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trillion a year? Trillion. About over $ 15, 000 a person.
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18% of the GDP, and yet our kids aren't growing
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up healthy, our adults are not healthy.
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We're sicker than ever, and we keep putting more money
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into this great conglomerate that's not solving problems. So the
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media and the narrative need a different voice. So this book,
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this attempt to get a different voice out there, the
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creator's voice, what he would say if he was here,
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we want people to look at creator and how he
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does things and not how creation has turned things into
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this ever profiting making system that's just not working for
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most Americans. And I think after the pandemic, most people say, hey,
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what we're having here is not good. We want something better.
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So they're looking for answers, and they're looking for answers
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from the government. They're looking for answers everywhere. So this
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is a different voice out there giving people evidence-based things
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that they can apply to your office. So that's how
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my story has evolved. But I have all these medical problems.
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I'm a diabetic. I'm wearing a glucose monitor on me today.
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I can tell you right now that I'm a little excited,
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but my blood sugar is 154. But I do everything
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I can to stay alive one day at a time
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to get God this message that I believe God's given
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me through the Holy Spirit. Why did he keep me alive?
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One time after another, things happen, and somehow I make it.
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And God's put me in the path of some of
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the greatest minds in the world. And oh, you know,
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I really had a great experience with Charlie Kirk. I
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know some people love him. Some people don't. But I
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will say this. He was a person that I greatly admired.
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He was getting it. He was moving his narrative to
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the Bible, the source of truth, the Holy Spirit. And
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he was getting people excited about the gospel again and
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teaching them how to apply it and not be ashamed
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and to stand up to all of the stuff we
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have going on in this world, the distractions. So I
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was greatly hurt when he was killed. And so I
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gave him a lot of the stuff in his book
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that he wrote. Stop in the name of God. If
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you look at some of the chapters there, I gave
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him a lot of that material. And when he couldn't
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promote his book anymore, I said, it's time to come
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out with a version of this, my version that I
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can keep this legacy, this biblical legacy of spreading the
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gospel out there. And that's how the Creator's Code works.
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was born. And hopefully through avenues like this, we can
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get it to grow. This is not mine. This is
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something that's coming from the truth in the Bible, applying
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it to individuals' lives through the power that God gives
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us through the Holy Spirit.
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Amen to so much of that. You know, as a libertarian,
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I'm going to always tell the audience, never look to
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the government as a solution. That is not the direction
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you want to go.
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Dr.
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Markham, you may not know this, but I actually used
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to work for Charlie Kirk So I echo what you say,
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an amazing man, incredible to be around and his death.
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What a tragedy. It hit so hard, you know, especially
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those of us who actually knew him. I want to
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go into this. And, you know, you've already brought up worship.
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You brought up taking a day off. And so when
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I look to the Bible and I look at some
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of the things that God said to his creation, that's
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all of us. And he told us to take a
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day of rest. And that is so important for us.
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You know, I've been around a lot of different denominations.
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And one, and I'm not a Seventh-day Adventist, but one
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thing that I love about the SDA church, they take
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a day off and they meet. it when they take
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that day off. I think we should probably examine that
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and start actually living that lifestyle. You talk about worship,
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and I want to dive into that, but is there
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other things as well, maybe some dietary restrictions that are
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talked about in specifically the Old Testament that Maybe staying
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away from things like pork. And hey, guys, I like
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bacon as much as everybody else does. But maybe pork,
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maybe shellfish. Are there other things that we can examine
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the Bible and say, hey, you know, while we're not
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under that law anymore, maybe we should still look at
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this for our health.
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Yeah, well, what I did, Caleb, in my life is,
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and my patients, you know, first of all, we have
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to meet someone's acute needs. You know, if you're having
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chest pain, if you can't breathe, we got to deal
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with that. And lots of times we need modern medicine
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for that to settle that down, but not get at
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the cause. And in that process, I try to find
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out what a person's needs are, because everyone's in pain.
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solve their pain. That might be drugs, alcohol, pornography, too
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much sports, too much whatever, too much money, whatever that
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pain is. And I, because people say, listen, we have
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to reach for healthier sources of dopamine to help our pain.
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And you have to have a true north. So in
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my book, this is a great book for seekers. So
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I have to spend, when I'm presenting this, I have
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to sort of let them know that my source of
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truth was the Bible. And in it, I spend a
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whole chapter scientifically proving that the Bible's true, that there's
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no doubt mathematically, the archaeology, there's no doubt that the
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Bible's true. So once they agree with that premise, then
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they can start applying the truth in the Bible to
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their lives. And in my life, I had to do
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things simple, something that I could get success on and
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build on. So the first step I try to talk
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people on is the power of worship. You know, Andrew
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Newberg at the university in Philadelphia, he just says just
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10 minutes a day of worship, whether that be prayer,
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Bible study, even if you're a non-believer, even if you're
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a non-believer, that just worship, it grows the part of
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the brain called the anterior cingulate cortex. We call that
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the God brain. You grow new blood cells. We call
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that angiogenesis. And you turn down the stress part of
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the brain, the amygdala. That's the selfish part of the brain.
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That's the part that's turned on when we're fearful, when
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we're scared, when we have chronic inflammation. So we start
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getting the brain so we can communicate with God, get
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some of that brain fog out of there so we
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can actually see him, hear him, and plug into his power.
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So that's where I start in health. And who starts
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in health and worship? Not very many people. It's not
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very popular, but it's very high technology, high technology. And
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if you do believe that the Bible's true, Caleb, which
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I do, you believe the verses. Let's say if you
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believe in me, you have everlasting life. You're going to
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have healing at some point down the road. So you're
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going to have permanent healing and everyone I think I've
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seen once that enduring hope, but along the way in worship,
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you also get this brain change this God dwelling in
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us that turns on power that we are just now
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understanding genetically. So we get that going for a patient first.
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Get them in worship, in prayer. Get them to have
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those epigenetic changes that turn down some of this chronic
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inflammatory response in the brain. So all of a sudden,
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we can communicate with our creator. He becomes our physician.
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Everyone else is just a consultant. He's our true healer, okay?
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So we get that going. Then we start, well, what
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can you help us with? What's doable? Well, something as
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simple as drinking water. hydrating themselves. 75% of Americans don't
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drink enough water every day. Now, not only do we
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want the water that we take in, but we also
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want living water, okay? When we're dehydrated, It turns on
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inflammatory responses in the body. It puts the body under
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a certain amount of stress. You go walk in the desert,
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your brain doesn't work well because it needs water. Every
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cell needs water to function. That's just a basic. So
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I started in my life drinking enough water every day,
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making it a priority, making it a treatment. 75% of
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people don't. Deficiency in water is a big time player.
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You know, I see a lot on the Internet about peptides,
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about all the newest things. But something as big as
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water helps that much. Some of these other things might
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help this much. And yet you don't have to pay
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large amounts of money for water. There's not large amounts
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of side effects with water. So that's something I did.
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And when I did it, I felt better. The number
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one cause of fatigue in the world today is dehydration.
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If you're dehydrated, nothing works well. So I started doing that,
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a biblical prescription, hydration. And then I said, well, you know,
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I got worship. I got water. I'm going to add
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something else. The next thing I added was scheduled movement.
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Exercise might be a better word. And then I looked
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at the statistics. 75% to 80% of people don't get
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the basic amount of movement every day. When you don't move,
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the blood stays still. It doesn't help the endothelium remain healthy,
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so it ages quicker. When you move, you get new
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blood cells that grow. You get the bone marrow that's stimulated.
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The T cells are stimulated. You make growth factors that
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help your body grow new things. You help your metabolism,
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your insulin systems. It helps everything. Just if you can
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get up and move around the chair every hour, that's
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a basic. get up to 10,000 to 15,000 steps a day,
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throw in some resistance training and some stretching, and there
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you have it. All of the studies have shown that
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the best treatments for cardiovascular disease, Alzheimer's, all of these
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things is just a movement program. And yet 75% of
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people are deficient in movement. Now, we don't see a
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lot of that written in the Bible. We have people
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walking with God. They didn't have the problems that we do.
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They didn't sit at a desk all day. They didn't
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sit at a screen all day. They didn't stay in
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these cities that we live in. They got outside and
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did things. And I think you and I, when we
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get to break, we're going to have to walk around
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the room to get our blood moving so we don't
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have this aging of the endothelium, more inflammation, damage to
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the endothelium, more likely to pick up a clot or
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a cholesterol plaque, more likely to age. Then we have
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a symptom. We have the symptom. We go to the doctor,
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and he treats the symptom but doesn't give us the
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clues to get at the cause. And that's what I'm
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trying to do here, get people the big clues that
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each one of us can do if we have a
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little common sense. But we don't focus on those things.
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We focus on the trendy things. So I started adding movement,
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and all of a sudden, I even felt better. You know,
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my weak heart got better. My diabetes improved, everything. I
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now walk after every meal to bring down my blood sugar,
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every meal. I try to move as much as I
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can during the day, try to get my steps in.
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If I don't get my steps in, I just don't
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feel good. So we had that biblical prescription. So I said, well,
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that's great. I'm going to add another one. So the
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next one I added in the sequence of my life,
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and I go through the sequence in this book, is
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taking a day off rest. Not only resting one day
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a week, and that rest is just breaking from your routine,
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doing something, doing something for you, connecting with your God,
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but also concentrating on resting at night. I looked at
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the statistics. Very few people rest well at night. When
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we don't rest at night, the circadian rhythms go off course.
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We make a lot of cortisol, adrenaline.
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I got to pause you right here, doctor. I apologize.
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But we hit that hard break. But ladies and gentlemen, obviously,
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we're not done yet. And so far, we've gone through...
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four W's as far as I'm counting. So we got worship,
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we got water, we got working out, and we got
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well rested. So there's your four W's so far. We're
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going to continue to cover this. This is Caleb Collier
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go right back to the good doctor in just a
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second here. But since we're talking about health, let me
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my guests might disagree with me on this, but I
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love methylene blue.
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I do.
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I take it uh, pretty much, uh, Monday through Friday. Um,
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and it has been a game changer for me. Uh,
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got rid of a lot of that, uh, just that fog,
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a lot more mental clarity. I actually increased, uh, the
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amount of time that I was sleeping, uh, And I
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was very open with the audience about my insomnia issues.
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So this was a game changer for me. There's a
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With that, let's go back to our guest, Dr. James Markham,
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author of The Creator Code. And I had to rudely
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cut him off. I hate doing it, but it's the
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nature of the beast. But we're talking about well rested.
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And you were talking about when people are not resting well, sir,
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and they're increasing their cortisol levels. You were talking about that.
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But please, please continue.
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Yeah, well, these are all simple things that we can do.
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And I'm glad you brought up methylene blue, Caleb, because,
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you know, there's a lot of research on methylene blue,
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how at certain doses it's an alternative mitochondria electron carrier.
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So the energy sources in our cells are mitochondria. So
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if we can enhance mitochondria function, especially in people that
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have a lot of what we call oxidative stress, okay,
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we talk about rest. One of the best ways of
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getting rid of reactive oxygen species inflammation in the body
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is rest. In the brain, We have this glymphatic system
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that at night when we rest, the brain's able to
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get rid of the toxins through the glymphatic system, and
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it only happens when we have adequate rest. And I
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think all your viewers and listeners out there will understand,
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after you get a good night's rest, you feel good.
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You know, you feel good, ready to tackle the world. Well,
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there's real physiology behind that. You know, when we do that,
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we really have physiologically changes in our bodies. The inflammation,
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the toxins get out of our body. That just comes
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from a good night's rest. You know, the body heals itself.
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But can you imagine our creator has said, listen, you know,
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we're working 24-7. We need to take a day off.
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You know, we need to take a whole day off
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to rest, to recuperate, to get this anti-inflammatory effect. benefit
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that we have by connecting with God, by connecting with
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the earth, by connecting with the family. However God teaches
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you how to rest, this is an enormous physiologic treatment
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that we all can plug into. And the people that
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do that benefit. And I looked at the studies in
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my book, and one group that you talked about are
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the Seventh-day Adventists. Their studies show that they have remarkable benefits.
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They're part of the blue zones. Other people that benefit,
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the Jewish population do that. They benefit. So God has
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never given us anything that would hurt his creation. That
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doesn't make sense. He wants the creation to do well. Well,
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one of the things he taught in the Old Testament
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and the New Testament is take some time off. So
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I started to apply rest, and the better I rested
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at night and took a weekly rest, my physiology, my
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body was receiving the chemicals that it needed to heal,
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even though we haven't explained all of the complex physiology
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that existed. So that was something I could do. So
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I worked through these, Caleb, over years, and my health improved.
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And you look at me today, you know, you can't
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tell I've had a bad heart attack. You can't tell
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I'm diabetes. You can't tell inside I'm not perfect. But
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God has kept me going as I plugged into his work. recipe,
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his prescription, his formula, including the most important thing, and
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that's his son that gives me the power. And even
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if I can't do it, and if I fall over
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like this, Caleb, I know that I'm going to be
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made perfect. And that's a guarantee I have. No ifs, ands,
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or buts. There's nothing I do. It's a free gift.
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I just receive it. And how many people actually do that?
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We try to work our way. We have to do
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everything ourselves. We have to eat perfect. We have to
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exercise perfect. We have to sleep perfect. No, we don't
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have to do that. God lets us do that based
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on his power for us so we can bring glory
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to him. We're here for a purpose. So as I
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started realizing that, I started resting better. Then I started
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tackling the hardest one for everybody, and that's nutrition. So
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I go through the chapter nutrition, the practical things. Do
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we have to be perfect? No, but we can all
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do better. And I focus on things like eating more fiber,
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trying not to eat big at night, focusing on eating
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the good things first, eat things without a lot of
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chemicals on it. I was recently in Washington and I
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went by this city called Yakima. You've probably been there.
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They had the.
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Best fruit in the world. It tasted great. I could
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feel the energy. So we try to eat things that
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are real, not things that are processed, not things that
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are chemicalized, not too much sodium, not too much fatty foods,
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not too much high fructose corn syrup. And have that balance. Now,
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do we have to be perfect?
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No.
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But as we move towards a healthier lifestyle, healthier nutrition,
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I started feeling better. My taste buds begin to change.
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And some of the things that used to taste good
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did not taste good. So I added that on and
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I'm still learning every day of new things to add on.
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In nutrition world, I just added on fiber. I said, man,
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I have to get more fiber, 30 to 35 grams
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of fiber. When you get fiber, it turns on short
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chain fatty acids. The butyrates. The butyrates keep the bad
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toxins from getting in me. It turns down inflammation in
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the body, which is driving endothelial function. It helps make
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nitric oxide bigger so my arteries are healthier, things get
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in and out better. It helps my brain chemistry, less
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brain inflammation, less brain fog, just by eating fiber. Now,
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I calculated I wasn't getting enough every day. Even though
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I ate a fiber-rich salad every day, I still wasn't
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getting enough. So now I have a glass of water.
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I put some psyllium and something in it, and I
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just gulp it down. And since I've done that, my
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63-year-old joints are feeling better. I'm less inflammatory. I can
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actually feel the changes. So I wanted to have some
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evidence so I can measure my interleukin-6, my sed rate,
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my C-reactive protein. All of those actually improved as I
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cut down fiber. So I said, man, this doesn't cost
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me a lot of money. I didn't have to buy
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a supplement. Is there something else I could add? Well,
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just recently, we've got all of the research on sunlight.
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You know, for years, we've been taught about sunlight. Phototherapy
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is so bad for us. Well, if the sunlight was bad,
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why did God give us the sun? Why does the
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sun photosynthesis for plants? Why do we need it so much?
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And yet we looked at the statistics and 70 to
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80% of people don't ever get out in the sun.
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They stay inside. And when they go, they cake themselves
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on with so much sunscreen. Well, we found out that
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we need the visible sunlight, what we see every morning,
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five or 10 minutes when we open, we need that
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for our circadian rhythms to get melatonin, to get our
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rhythms of the Bible, the body correct. Well, we need
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the high energy, the ultraviolet rays, and those are the
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ones that burn us. We don't need too much of that,
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but we need that for vitamin D metabolism, for calcium,
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those type of metabolism. But now the new one is
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the infrared rays, the longer rays, that we get that
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it penetrates through our body. That's why you interested me
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when you talked about methylene blue. We know that chronic
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stress from wherever it comes damages the mitochondria. So the
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mitochondria have oxidative stress on this. Well, we know that
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the infrared rays get into those mitochondria, and it helps
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them do better so they don't wear out as more,
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so we have more energy. Our body functions at a
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higher level. It turns off all of this inflammation and
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damage that our body is having problems to deal with
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just by being outside in the sunlight 15 minutes a day.
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We see people that don't do that, the high altitudes
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in Alaska, they have high risk of depression, their bones
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get burned, they don't have energy, lots of things. So
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I encourage people, just get outside 15 minutes a day.
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Don't burn, just get out. And if you can't get outside,
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maybe you can look into getting some infrared equipment you know,
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raised at the home. You know, we have lots of
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products out there that are doing that now. It's been
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another game changer. And yet this is another biblical principle
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that we knew a long time ago. And yet now
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we're learning the importance of adding it to our lifestyle.
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And we're also seeing what happens when we have deficiencies
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in things. What happens when we have a deficiency in worship,
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a deficiency in water, a deficiency in movement, a deficiency
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in rest, a deficiency in nutrition and sunlight? All of
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these things cause stress, inflammation, damage the endothelium. then we
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get disease, cancer, then we age quicker, our genes change,
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then we need modern medicine, then all of a sudden
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we raise the cost of the healthcare system. And the
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solution that they have, well, let's give people more medicines,
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GLP ones, et cetera, but they don't give people the
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tools that they have to their, can enhance their own body.
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The way our creator has given us that in the scripture.
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You know, when you're going through this list and I'm
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struggling to find a W for the sun, I can't,
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I can't get, I had all the other W's covered,
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but I couldn't get the sun, maybe watching the sun.
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I don't know. But, um, This isn't expensive. Like you
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were saying, like you're not, you know, the creator code,
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you go to heartwiseministries.org. You're not selling a bunch of
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supplements and everything. You're basically telling people, hey, worship God,
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get some water, you know, get well rested. Work out,
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you know, get out in the sun, like watch what
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you eat. That's all pretty simple. And I would imagine, doctor,
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if people started doing this, the amount of meds that
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they were required to take, the meds with all those
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awful side effects that they tend to, I like to
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say that the micro machine guy, if you remember him.
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When it gets to the side effects, they're like, it
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might cause bleeding. They may make it real quick, but
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then they show the smiling face. But hey, I'm taking
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the meds and I feel great. I would imagine if
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you do all of what you're recommending, those meds go
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way down.
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Yeah, I've been able to people that can do this.
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And that's why I wrote the book to give them
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a template, you know, give them something just for a
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few dollars. It's cost of a meal. They can apply
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and go through the steps. It might take some time.
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Look at the evidence, add them to their lives, and
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I guarantee you their health will improve. They might be
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able to get off medications. Many of them can reverse
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disease in the short term, diabetes, hypertension, obesity, all of
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these chronic diseases. They can turn those around. But more important,
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even if they can't do anything, Caleb, when they connect
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with their creator through worship, they get something special that
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will last them eternity.
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Let me ask you something there on that worship, doctor,
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and I apologize for interrupting, but, uh, you know, I'm a,
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I'm a Lutheran and, and I'm, I'm, I'm the good
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kind of Lutheran. Um, but I'm a Lutheran and, and
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a lot of people, when they look at Lutherans are like, oh,
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they're so stoic. They don't worship. Uh, that's not factual.
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We do a lot of singing actually in Lutheran churches. Um,
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but you're not talking about the worship has to be
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like running up and down the aisles, going all crazy
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hands up in the air. Uh, there's a lot of
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different ways that we can worship our creator, correct?
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Yes, there is. And in fact, I'm glad you brought
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that up. I was in Norway, had me come out
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recently in May. So I spent the month of May
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in Norway with Lutherans, okay? And the Lutherans out there,
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they worshiped a lot in nature, you know, getting out
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and walking. They worshiped in being in fellowship with their family,
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working and serving mankind, however God gives you. That is
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a form of worship, right? But the goal, Caleb, I think,
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in time is to connect with your Creator and find
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out all of the— live a life of worship. You know,
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you have your special high days, and that might be
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through prayer and Bible study and worshiping conglomerately, but you
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want to live your life in worship and service with
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Because you were put here for a reason. And I
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realized when I was in Norway that a lot of Lutherans,
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they connect differently. But just the problem is, it's not
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how you're connecting, just so you are connecting. And you
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realize that, you know, I want to give my worship
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and my allegiance, my authority to the God in heaven
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and not to the little gods that are created all
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around earth that are distracting us from what's really important.
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And that's what I wanted to get out is this
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new message that we need to talk about, that we
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need to get out there. Not everyone's going to want
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to do it, but at least give them the option
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if they want to do these things and apply these
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things and get this higher power, this genetic change that's
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coming in, these epigenetic changes that's already been proven in science,
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how they can implement this in their lives, because you're
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not going to hear about it anywhere else. They're not
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going to talk about it in the government. They're not
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going to talk about these things in the pharmaceutical industry.
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You're not going to have this legislated. A lot of
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it's hard to do. You know, it's easy to swallow
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a pill. It's easy to do these other things, but
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it takes a little bit of effort to do this sometimes.
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But as you do this, you're going to receive great rewards,
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not only in the short term, But in the long term.
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So that's why I wanted to write this book, The
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Creator's Code, get a new message out there, a new tool,
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not only for people, but individuals, doctors, you know, they
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can say, listen, I don't have a time. I only
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have 10 minutes with you. But take a look at this.
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You might find some truths in that that you can
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apply to your life. For people that don't believe, you know,
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that's okay, too. Even if you don't believe and you
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don't plug in the worship part, the other parts are
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a science behind it, and it works, too. But this
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is what I wanted to throw out there. God's given
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me the energy right now, and I want to thank
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you and what you're doing for spreading this message, because
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you never know who might hear about this, and it
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might change their life. It might give them the enduring
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hope that they need during a tough time.
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Amen to that. And we've actually, we've run out of time.
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We've gone a little bit over here, but I want
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to make sure everybody goes to the website, heartwiseministries.org. Chris
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is bringing that up for us. But Dr. Markham, just
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real briefly, tell people why they should go to your website.
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Well, a couple reasons. One, they can get the book.
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And that's where they can start on a journey. I'm
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there to help them one-on-one. If you go to heartwisejm
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at yahoo.com, I answer people's personal email without pay from
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all over the world, giving them the best balanced information,
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a second opinion that I can. They can also visit
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our syndicated radio, our syndicated TV. They can plug into
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our YouTubes, all the other biblical things that we do.
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And our main goal in this site is to point
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people to the Creator through the power of Christ in
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the Bible and the Holy Spirit and letting them find
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the way that God leads them to all of this.
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And this website gives them some of the initial steps
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that they can do to take them on this journey.
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Well, I can't recommend the website enough. I want my
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audience to go and buy The Creator's Code. You can
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find that on Amazon. I don't recommend Amazon. Go to heartwiseministries.org,
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order the book directly through there. But please go check
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it out, ladies and gentlemen. And Dr. Markham, it has
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been an absolute pleasure having you on the show. I've
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got to go ahead and close this out. If you
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hold on one more minute post-production to say our goodbyes,
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I'd appreciate it. But thank you so much for joining
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us on today's episode.
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My pleasure. And I want to thank you for everything
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you're doing.
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Thank you, sir, so much. And thank you for everything
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that you're doing. All right, ladies and gentlemen, there you go.
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The creator code. Who would have thought that the creator
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of all would have given us the blueprints to live
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a healthy life? I'm shocked. Now, I know you can
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hear the sarcasm dripping from my voice, but if you
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want to increase your stamina, increase your longevity, increase your health,
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I think the creator code is the best place to start.
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The Caleb Collier Show of Church and State Media is
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brought to you in part by Colonial Life, Spokane Independent Agents,
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