Dead Internet 2026: DARPA, Peter Thiel, Alien AI & Memetic Magick

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- What's up everybody, it's Isaac Intro to the Intro.
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You know what that means.
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It means we've got a very special episode.
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This is the third episode of the Quarter Quail.
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It's a special collaboration episode I do
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with Joel Thomas from Free the Rabbits.
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Arguably one of the best researchers out there.
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Maybe the best, Joel Thomas.
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And we're gonna break down the topic for this Quarter Quail
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is gonna be the dead internet theory.
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We're gonna start off with Joel explaining to us
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the origins of it through the Illuminati pirate.
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They wanna talk about various aspects.
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My side of the argument is gonna be more
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on the philosophical takes and the origins
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of the ARPANET internet.
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And then the AI and alien intelligence aspects
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of the dead internet.
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And how all these things connect and do
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what's really going on online right now
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and your algorithm and what they're trying to do
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to manipulate you.
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Superfast housekeeping, my Twin Peaks book.
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It is basically done.
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I'm waiting for the final proof
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that I should get the mail today.
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So look for it on all my social media
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as an email's out blast at a link where you can,
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I think pre-orders the way I'm going with this one.
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'Cause I got a couple things.
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I got a tweak on the Kindle version of the book.
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But I'm not doing the audible version of this.
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Not yet at least.
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If I could hire someone from the Twin Peaks cast to do it,
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I would make that happen.
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So I'm gonna see if I can make that work.
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But it probably not.
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It's a massive book.
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And I've covered all the audio version.
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You can just get the GrayLod series at patreon.com/loomnettywatcher
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and unlock the whole thing.
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It's the, you can get the video for Tier Two
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and all that stuff.
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So the Twin Peaks book, it's called,
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she's filled with secrets.
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What do you think of that?
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Anyway, so look for that.
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And if you follow me on the socials or my email list,
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you'll see it 'cause I'll be incestantly talking about it.
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Okay.
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And I'm actually getting back to trying to finish my
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presentation of doing a presentation in Salt Lake,
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October 3rd.
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Of course, it's sold out as you already know.
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So stay tuned on the email and socials
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for the next lecture that I do.
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When, where, who knows?
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I don't know.
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I mean, it took me two years to get to this one
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from the first one I did in Vegas.
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So also, you can watch the conversation
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on our YouTube channels.
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Mine is at a cult symbolism.
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Joel's is at Free the Rabbits.
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What else is there?
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Go follow Joel's podcast, dude.
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I've worked with him for years.
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This dude's legit, man.
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He knows this stuff.
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He's a genuinely good dude.
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Go follow him over at Free the Rabbits.
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We've done many collaborations together,
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as well as on the confessionals,
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which we did like a two or three hour bonus talk
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on the confessionals.
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Members only just a couple of months ago,
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if you want to get it real, nerd it out with that stuff.
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And Joel also has a link tree where he sells merch
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with the quarter quell, you can get the shirt
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with AI, IZ, and AI Joel on this shirt.
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It's the one I wear in the videos
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for the YouTube.
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So go check out the YouTube,
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go subscribe to Joel Thomas' podcast,
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and without further ado,
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let's get into the next quarter quell.
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(thunder rumbling)
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- In a world veiled in symbols,
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what truth is buried beneath ritual power and illusion.
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Two voices emerge for the noise.
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From the hidden layers of pop culture,
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to the ancient echo to the occult,
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they follow the threads others refuse to see,
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not as masters, but as seekers,
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two men, one mission,
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to uncover what lies beneath the surface of reality.
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This is not just a podcast,
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this is the quarter quell,
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Isaac Weissho, and Joel Thomas.
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The games begin.
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- What's up guys, we are back with episode three
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of the quarter quell.
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This is a quarterly podcast I do
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with my good friend Isaac Weisshopp,
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and we're pretty excited about this episode.
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And actually, Isaac, this topic
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has become super relevant this year again.
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It's actually interesting,
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and I'll talk about it today,
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where there were several articles
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that have come out just this year about it
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in the mainstream consciousness.
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And it's interesting because I knew about this years ago,
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at least the concept of it,
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and now that it's come back into the zeitgeist,
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people are starting to notice it more.
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And obviously it has a lot to do with where AI's heading,
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and all that, but how are you feeling about
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going into this specifically this year
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when it comes to this topic?
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- Yeah, I think it's pretty relevant,
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given the nature of everything going on.
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And I've been, as you know,
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diving into the dark enlightenment
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and how the Silicon Valley nerds are trying
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to hijack reality,
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and they're doing it through social media and the internet.
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So when we were planning this show,
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trying to figure out, we were brainstorming topics,
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like what sounds interesting,
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and this one sounded real interesting to me,
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and when I was digging into it,
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'cause when I started researching for it,
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I was shocked that there actually isn't a whole lot out there.
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There isn't a whole lot of meat on the bone
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of what the dead internet theory is,
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besides the basic 10 second talking point,
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sound bite of most of the activity on the internet
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is just bots, it's not really human.
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And I was hoping I could get,
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'cause usually when we talk about these subjects,
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I can dig around and I find something that's tied
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into something occulted and digs like that.
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And that's not really what I experienced on this one.
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So this is gonna be interesting because for me
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and my research, my side of,
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'cause I have people know this, right?
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When we do our show, we kind of talk about,
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we brainstorm some ideas, we're like,
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"Okay, let's pick this topic,
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and then we'll kind of each pick a couple talking points
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that compare notes to make sure we're not doing the same
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subject matter so the people aren't listening
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to the same research."
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And I find that intriguing because I know some of the ideas
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you're gonna talk about and I'm hoping that the stuff
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that I came up with will supplement it nicely.
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I think that the philosophy's in the background
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of the dead internet theory and the darken light
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and it kind of flow together.
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So I'm gonna be talking about a lot of things today
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that are related to AI, Silicon Valley,
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the Illuminati utopia fantasies that they have for us
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and so on.
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So yeah, this is a great topic and I think it's relevant
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given all the stuff in the news about AI and things, right?
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- Yeah, for sure.
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And I do think that interwoven in it,
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at least in a weird way, there are some occulted things,
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even though on the surface and even as you go deeper,
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there's not so much.
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So I agree with you on that front.
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I think I've got a pretty good piece today
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that we'll tie into magic with a CK and kind of show how
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there's an underlying technocratic movement
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to manipulate our minds with magic in a way.
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But to start out, we're gonna start where this even came from.
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Where did the dead internet come from, this theory,
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where did the terminology come from?
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And it's really a concept and it means that
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most of the internet is primarily bot activity
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and automated content and it's manipulated
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with algorithmic curation.
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So basically what you were saying that
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we have a huge influx of all of this bot activity
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and today I'm gonna talk about the percentages.
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We'll talk about some different articles
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that have come out even this year
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that talk about super high percentages
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of what we're dealing with online is bot activity.
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And a lot of it are social bots, right?
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You're gonna see this a lot in social media, YouTube,
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is a big one.
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That was one of the earliest ones
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that was really getting hammered
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and obviously still to this day.
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And obviously all these other social media platforms,
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Facebook was a very early one.
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I'm gonna talk about some interesting stuff
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with Facebook today, but Instagram, X is another one.
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And I got a really interesting piece on X
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and what's going on over there
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and how they kind of divide people
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into these hidden rooms using AI algorithms as well.
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And I think that it is, it's become kind of
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in the forefront of people's minds
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because of the AI influx.
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Really from 2000 or yeah, 2000 all the way to now.
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And AI's been around for a long time,
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but just what AI's become and what people see it as,
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even the idea of what people call AI Slop
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where you see a lot of these really low quality pictures
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that just keep generating the same thing.
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Shrimp Jesus was one of them
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that was just constantly popping up.
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You'll see a lot of this weird stuff
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that just, it's not even like a human being
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is creating this stuff, right?
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With the AI, it's like the AI itself
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is generating this stuff and putting it out there.
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And people are interacting with it,
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but even more importantly, other bots
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are interacting with it as well.
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And it really comes from this guy called Luminati Pirate
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and he was the first one to coin the term
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and he wrote an entire, I'd say article,
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but more like a thread on the dead internet theory
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and he called it that.
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He wrote it on an image board called Wizard Chan.
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Now, Wizard Chan is no longer in existence,
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it's defunct now.
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It was actually a part of something you talked about
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before when we did our first quarter-core episode.
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It was a big part of gamer gate
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with the whole Zoe Quinn harassment scandal
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and it was in that pantheon of Fort Chan
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and H-chan and all that.
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And he wrote this on their first,
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but now you can find it in a place called
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Agura Road, Macintosh's Cafe.
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And he talks about what it means
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to have pretty much a defunct internet
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that we're working with.
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Now, he kind of starts out with how long
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that he's been a part of these communities.
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He talks about in 2006, he's with Fort Chan.
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It's guys been around for a long time.
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And he's been a part of all these message boards
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and he's seen the changes.
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He talks some very interesting stuff about Christopher Poole
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who's called Moot on Fort Chan
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and he's seen the rise and fall of Paul,
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which from Paul was where we get all of the QAnon stuff
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that came out of that, which you and I've talked about too.
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And he kind of gives you that to set you up.
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He's like, these are my credentials.
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Like, you don't have to believe me or not.
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He's like, but I'm telling you,
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I've seen the change of the internet itself
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through social media, through message boards.
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I've seen the bot influx and I'm trying to tell you that
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from what I've seen, that basically,
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it's creating a Potentkin village.
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These empty husks that look really good from the outside,
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but there's no depth to them.
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That what you think you're interacting with is not a human
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and it's something else.
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And he kind of gets a little bit deeper into the same picks
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and replies being reposted over and over again.
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He talks about that specific instance in 2015
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where he sees a specific post.
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And then a month later, it's the same post by a different
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and none and this is on the forechan threads.
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And he talks specifically about Paul,
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how he knew that that was just an absolute cesspool
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of bot activity and all of this AI conversions
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that was using to manipulate people as well.
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And he goes on a little bit further
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with some of the other ideas that come out of the forechan
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specifically and he talks about that the terrorist accusations
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that came out of it and reason why H&N was taken over.
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And he talks about moot again, Christopher Poole
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and he thinks that, well, one, he said they knew there were two
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moots that were talking and he said,
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when Christopher Poole left and started working for Google,
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he said it was super weird and he never said
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what he actually did for Google for five years
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but then there was another moot
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that was talking about being in Mexico.
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He almost wondered who's the real moot.
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It was super weird conspiracy stuff
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but he said that he was tracking everything that was going on
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just in this world but everywhere else too.
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And he also talks about kind of the sexual perversion
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that was really coming out of these areas too
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and it being connected to bot activity
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because one of the things he talked about was
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in the early days of forechan,
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a lot of these guys were into a lot of weird stuff.
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He said, you know, before it was popularized
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and this was the point, foot fetishes
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and then you had all of the weird stuff
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with all the cartoons and hentai and all these things, right?
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And he said what was weird was,
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he said that out of it became this push
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for all of these things to be normalized in society
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where he was seeing that, oh, now they've got a whole site
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for foot fetishes, they've got a whole thing for this
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and now it's been normalized and he said that
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the bot activity around it was pretty crazy.
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It was like the AI was taking all the info
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that they were putting in the forechan and was saying,
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okay, how do we create subcultures
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that we can manipulate out of this?
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And he said a big one was the pedophile stuff
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that was coming out of this too
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and he said that's where that it really got unmanageable
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because it was taking what those people were saying
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in these threads and then pushing it
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and trying to normalize it make people feel okay
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with doing it, which you know, it was obviously disgusting
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but at the same time, it's showing you how that the AI
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and these bots are honing on on information
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that they can bring back to obviously there are people
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behind this and we can talk about different government entities
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that are watching this and using it to manipulate people.
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But also just the AI itself is growing and evolving
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and it is finding ways to box us in as well.
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And I just wanna know your take on that before I continue
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'cause I think that's super wild how it was taking in
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even people's fetishes to then weaponize it.
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- Well, like when we talk about AI and stuff,
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it makes me think that 'cause there's people out there
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that say AI is this new life form
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that's gonna be super intelligent smart of the man
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but then on the same, in the same breath,
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they'll also say that AI is just a reflection of us.
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All it does is look around the internet at the stuff
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that we've produced and then sort of regurgitates it back
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which in a way is like in terms of data fidelity,
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as far as replicating the human spirit,
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like it's never gonna be as fully, how do I say that?
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It's not ever gonna be truly as creative as a human
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could ever be, I would think if that's the case.
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So I lean more towards that that AI is just reflecting
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back what it learns about us on the internet.
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So if it learned about foot fetishes in these four-chan,
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I mean, plus, like let's talk about how nasty four-chan
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and specifically the politically incorrect forum is, right?
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So the fact that it's on there, which actually was
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a big problem they had a couple of years ago
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when the, I don't remember it was GROC
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or one of these AI bots was started rantin' on
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about white supremacy stuff.
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I think it was GROC and it's like, well, yeah, no kidding
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'cause this thing's crawling around Twitter
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and it thinks like this is how people should operate, you know?
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- Right.
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- Yeah, I think, I mean, I'm like super anti-AI,
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I become more and more anti-AI as time goes on.
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And I think there's a huge manipulation
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of what they're trying to do and claim AI is gonna do to us.
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But we'll talk about that.
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You know, later I've got a section on AI as the alien
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and we can, you know, kind of get into that.
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- Yeah, and he goes on to say that, you know, he believes
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that this is a setup by the US government
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to use AI to gaslight the world population
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with a lot of these apps and by utilizing these bots
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through these apps.
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And he talks about that one of the interesting pieces
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was how to nudge people into doing certain things
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by the bot activities.
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So he talks about Facebook and, well, he uses the word Twitter
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but it's now X.
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And he says that obviously it's a fast place
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to get information, right?
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So everybody goes these places.
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So when they introduce the like system
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and it treats each post as a likable thing,
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obviously YouTube took away the ability to dislike,
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well, you can still dislike, but it doesn't show up.
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Now what the dislikes are, only the owner of the channel
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can see what kind of dislikes are on.
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A video, so people are encouraged to like
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as opposed to dislike.
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And he's talking about how the positive opinions
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are propagated to make the negative ones obsolete.
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So it encourages people to say they like certain things,
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to go along with certain things,
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to operate in a way that they wouldn't normally operate
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and essentially become NPCs themselves,
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which a lot of us are seeing now with people not having
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any kind of creativity or really any kind of thoughts
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for themselves and the people that do have thoughts
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for themselves, it seems like, and I don't know,
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you feel about this, seems like they're being squelched
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in a way because they're not allowed to create.
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And Isaac, I'm not even talking about
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something that's anti-government.
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I'm just talking about creating art, creating music,
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creating anything that is original.
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And would you see that type of stuff getting squelched,
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but yet the machine pushes the same sounds,
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the same talking points, the same things,
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you have to admit that there's something else to it,
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more than just the government's trying to hold me down.
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No, there's like an actual system behind all this
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that is with algorithms pushing it down.
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And this is what he's suggesting.
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He's suggesting that this is where we're going.
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Now he does give some suggestions on how we could fight it,
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obviously, encrypted peer-to-peer communication,
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software, he goes into a few other things
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'cause he talks about how the image boards
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are originally world of the Wild West
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and how they're kind of the last and on normal internet
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for people to have kind of nuanced conversations,
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but he said even those are getting botted to death.
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And he said there's, he doesn't know how much
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that they'll actually be able to fight this in the long run.
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Now what's also interesting a part of this thread
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that he wrote, and this is something I've talked about
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in the past, is the idea of algorithmic filter bubbles.
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I don't know if you've heard of this or not.
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This is very interesting.
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And X is a big proponent of this system.
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Now obviously bot spamming can be used
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to derail conversations, can be used to divide and conquer.
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We see that all the time online
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where you may put something out there or a comment out there,
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and then you're immediately responded on by the opposite
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and he creates a chain of discourse, which they want
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because the more discourse there is,
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the more this post gets the algorithm
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and the more that it gets out to more people.
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And that is one way, but the other way is algorithmic shadow
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banning conversations, but it's not to the point
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to where your shadow band to like your content
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is getting out there.
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It's more of trapping you inside of a bubble
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with no access to the outside world.
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So what's said in the thread is that they attribute it
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to video games, say you're playing COD or something
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like that and you're getting too reckless, right?
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On the microphone, you're causing trouble,
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you're using real toxic behavior
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and you're cheating in the game, whatever.
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So what they'll do, some of these games that are out there,
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instead of banning you, they'll just put you
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in what they call low trust factor queue.
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So you can't check the queue, you don't know
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that you've been moved to the queue,
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but then you realize that the game's not playing the same,
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that guides that you're playing against are as good,
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they're also cheaters.
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And before you know it, you've been put in a box
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with other people that are doing things just like you
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without you even knowing it.
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Well, that's what they're also doing on X specifically
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and Instagram, all these, what happens is
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when you are exerting behavior that they deem
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is not acceptable for society or what they deem
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except it.
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Maybe you're asking too many questions about something,
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whatever, they will put you in a room.
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You're still in X, but now you are not connected
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to everyone on X, you're boxed in with other people like you
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and what they do is they will feed you information
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that will also piss you off.
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So then it gets you more mad and they're banking
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on the fact that your emotions will keep you in this X matrix
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as long as it can because it's going to generate
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more ad revenue and more interactions
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and the algorithm will box you into this arena.
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So that's another way that this internet's working
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specifically on these social media apps.
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You don't even know you're trapped in there.
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Now, there are ways you can kind of circumvent it.
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I know that the GDP of the European Union,
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the general data protection regulation, that,
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well, they say, right, that you can ask to see
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what data companies hold or what companies hold your data.
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And by finding out that you can ask the companies
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to delete your data and then you can kind of pull yourself
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out of some of these rooms or again,
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I think that's just the smoke screen.
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I don't think you can really do any of that.
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I think, oh yeah, yeah, we'll do that for you.
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But in theory, right, I wouldn't say in theory
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that they put you in these rooms and in your trap
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without you even knowing which I think is far scarier
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than actually being banned.
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At least you have something to point to.
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But when you're squelched in your voice of silence
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without even knowing it, I think it's pretty scary.
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- Wow, do you think YouTube does that too?
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Does algorithmic bubbles or whatever?
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- I think so, absolutely.
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I think they all do.
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I think they all have algorithms that put you in a place
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where certain people will get to your content or not.
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And I think two--
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- I feel like that's what Rumble is.
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I feel like that's what Rumble is supposed to do
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is to get all those people in one platform.
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564
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'Cause I was on there for a while.
565
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:18,640
- I thought it was my green.
566
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,480
- Absolutely.
567
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,320
Yeah.
568
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,160
- I do.
569
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,600
I just think from a scale of,
570
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,200
and I don't think that YouTube's necessarily awful
571
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,280
because I know they've, well, barring your incident
572
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,760
that happened like a month ago,
573
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,920
they've definitely reeled some things back.
574
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,560
I just think they've got it in for you, man.
575
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,560
I'll be honest with you.
576
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:37,560
(laughing)
577
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,560
- It's your name.
578
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,160
(laughing)
579
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,360
- I actually don't know if it's this them.
580
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:43,360
- I've come around.
581
00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:46,600
I actually love YouTube now.
582
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,280
Maybe it's like, what's that called?
583
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,200
When you love your first night kidnap you.
584
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,040
But the--
585
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:52,880
(laughing)
586
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,400
- Stop all of the stuff you're on.
587
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,080
- Yeah, I got stockles in them.
588
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,960
But I got YouTube Premium,
589
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,560
which is like, that's rid of all the ads.
590
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,160
And YouTube is like a whole new world to me,
591
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,200
and I'm finding all these creators that I really like now,
592
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,200
and I really enjoy it.
593
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,840
And I actually don't blame YouTube.
594
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:13,840
I blame the talent management companies
595
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,200
and YouTube is maybe complicit in it
596
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:21,200
because they're the ones filing the strikes against me.
597
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,600
It's the, I think.
598
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,040
I mean, from what I can tell,
599
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,800
that's who's actually got the problem with me.
600
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,560
It's not YouTube necessarily being like,
601
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,480
"Hey, you can't talk about these things.
602
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,480
It's more of the people that manage these,
603
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,240
the talent have the problem."
604
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,840
And YouTube allows them a place to do this to me,
605
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,640
so like they're part of it,
606
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,840
but I actually think it goes beyond that.
607
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,480
- No for sure.
608
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,800
And I'm gonna go and swing it to you now,
609
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,520
'cause that gives us the setup of what Illuminati pirate
610
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,920
was talking about and his take on what it was.
611
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,320
And this is where it all spawned from.
612
00:28:55,320 --> 00:29:00,320
Oddly enough, this odd thread generated
613
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,520
the name dead internet.
614
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,320
- That's fascinating because I think that one of the elements
615
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:11,440
in my, this is, so my first part of this show,
616
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,320
my first segment here is gonna be about the internet
617
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,600
and the origins and what the vision was of it,
618
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,520
because that's being taken away from us.
619
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,440
And then the second part,
620
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,440
we're gonna talk about AI as an alien life form.
621
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,840
And that before I forget, you mentioned something about
622
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,240
this idea, I forgot what you were saying.
623
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,320
Sorry, it's getting late in the day of my brain is mush.
624
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,840
I've been editing my stupid Twin Peaks
625
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,720
but all for today my brain is fried.
626
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,960
But anyway, the,
627
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,400
I started to think it because my whole,
628
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,120
my whole thesis is that I think AI is anti-humanism
629
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,280
and it's therefore like satanic on some levels.
630
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,920
And I think that AI can't be as creative as humans.
631
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,960
All it can do is mirror us and emulate us.
632
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,280
And that takes me to what David Ike
633
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,120
would use to talk about the arcons
634
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,800
being these alien life forms that they don't have the ability
635
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,040
to be creative and that's what they use humanity for.
636
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,240
And that's what they sort of like admire about us the most.
637
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,200
And that's gonna sort of preface my AI as aliens.
638
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,720
But first I wanna talk about the origins of the internet
639
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,360
because this, whether taking things is actually
640
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:28,320
antithetical to the original vision of the whole thing.
641
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,000
And for the people that listen to my story,
642
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,600
they probably heard me talk about this a hundred times.
643
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,240
But Dr. Jacques Vallet, obviously the guy who
644
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,280
very much plugged into the UFO phenomenon stuff,
645
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,280
he's the guy who more or less invented
646
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,880
the ultra terrestrial theory with passport to Magonia.
647
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:53,840
Also one of the first pioneers in artificial intelligence
648
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,000
also created the internet.
649
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,600
So like this guy's super fascinating, right?
650
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,800
And it rose accruciant on top of all of it.
651
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,320
Of course.
652
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,560
So he was part of the project.
653
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,200
He wrote a book on a heart of darkness
654
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,160
that I recommend people read.
655
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,160
And in the book he talks about how the internet came about
656
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,840
and we did a whole show.
657
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,760
I believe we did.
658
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,280
Didn't we do a whole show about 1947?
659
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,000
We did like a two part series I think.
660
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:19,840
- We did, yeah.
661
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,720
- This is before we started this show.
662
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:22,880
- Yeah, I was trying to think I was like,
663
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,800
wait a minute, that wasn't one of these quarter quells.
664
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,320
It was a different sort of special we did.
665
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:32,160
And 1947 spawned off a whole host of things
666
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,440
and including the Cold War.
667
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,480
And that's why we have the internet
668
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,200
is because of the Cold War.
669
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,680
Because there was this concern
670
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,880
that the scientists in America had of,
671
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,360
hey, what happens if they drop the nuke
672
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,360
and it destroys all the communication systems,
673
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,560
they wanted to find a way to network machines together
674
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,520
so that they could transmit data
675
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,120
across a different sort of system
676
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,560
besides a telephone line or whatever.
677
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,320
So in the early 60s, this guy named Ted Nelson,
678
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,480
he's credited with one of the first to sort of envision
679
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,160
this idea of the internet.
680
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,480
And he got this idea
681
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,280
because he put his hand in some running water
682
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,840
and he would see the water flow over the one side
683
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,080
and the other side of his hand at the same time.
684
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,200
And he would notice it was kind of like,
685
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,600
it's kind of like an electrical circuit, right?
686
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,560
He would notice it would go down
687
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,320
but then it would reconnect on the bottom side of his hand.
688
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,040
And this whole idea of connectedness seeded the idea
689
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,680
and he gets into like some woo woo stuff, right?
690
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,720
It's like this world is this ever changing
691
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,120
sort of biosphere entity.
692
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,200
And from this, the idea of the internet comes through
693
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,280
because the early DARPA, which was called DARPA,
694
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,320
I think it was called ARPA originally.
695
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,040
They were the ones tasked with this study
696
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,320
to figure out a way to basically create the internet
697
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,120
which was originally called ARPA net based on ARPA.
698
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,120
And Dr. Jacques Vallet talks about how he was working
699
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,600
at Stanford's AI lab
700
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,120
and they were hyping these nerds up.
701
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,000
They were jazzing these nerds up to do this.
702
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,720
They were like, look, this is a new world we're bringing in
703
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,640
and it's true, you know, it was a new world that they created.
704
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,640
And they were taken to S-Alon to take all these like classes
705
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,520
on new age granola woo woo.
706
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,440
And they viewed the ARPA net, the internet
707
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,120
as the great equalizer of information.
708
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,760
Meaning they were in a level of playing field of power, right?
709
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,720
'Cause knowledge is power, therefore if you can give everyone
710
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,680
access to all of the knowledge and information,
711
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,760
now it's not just the scientific priest class
712
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,760
that had this information, now everybody does.
713
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,720
And I think that this was a threat to the, you know,
714
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,880
the predatory elites will call them.
715
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,800
And in the book they talk about, he goes heavy on this idea
716
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,760
of like this universal information medium
717
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,320
and you know, this is a way to take out gatekeepers,
718
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,160
which obviously that's what happened, right?
719
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,960
It enabled guys like you and me to start up
720
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,480
a basically radio station and a video network
721
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,520
and like this was stuff that back in the day,
722
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,880
you know, young people have no idea,
723
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,560
but if I wanted to get on a TV or, you know,
724
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,160
equivalent to a TV, I guess, right?
725
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,280
If I wanted to do something like that,
726
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,040
I would have to go to the local programming or the,
727
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,760
I mean, you just didn't do it, it didn't happen, you know.
728
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,760
So this is very revolutionary and they knew this.
729
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,440
And they were also reading up on Marshall McCloon,
730
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,360
who was kind of like this expert on media,
731
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,080
philosophy and things.
732
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,720
And he thought that cosmic humanism
733
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:51,720
would be one of the results of this kind of internet creation.
734
00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:57,480
And if they called it, they called this
735
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,440
sort of invisible college of kindred spirits in the book.
736
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,120
And it's again, based on this idea from New Age Mystics
737
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,200
and even like Psychedelics had a hand in this kind of thing.
738
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,240
But all of this goes through, it's weird
739
00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:12,680
because you got strange bedfellows here
740
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,760
because you've got Arpa and the sort of military
741
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,800
industrial complex and even the Rand Corporation.
742
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,040
'Cause again, the focus was on defense
743
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,760
and nuclear bombs and all these other kinds of things.
744
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,640
And then you got all these sort of like
745
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,400
nerds and hippies kind of involved.
746
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,800
So that you had a very weird eclectic mix of folks.
747
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,800
But what I want to make note of is that a lot of the things
748
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,160
they predicted about the internet and its power
749
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,160
would become true.
750
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,200
However, the powers that be these sort of predatory
751
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:53,040
elite class illuminati types, they understand all of this too,
752
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,920
right? They're watching this whole thing unfold.
753
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,560
And I think they're hijacking it and maybe it's already too late.
754
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,640
I don't know, but they want to create a control system
755
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,720
from this internet thing that has been created
756
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:09,720
this network because now we're fused into this thing
757
00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:13,520
through the medium of the cell phone,
758
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,720
which is the 2001 space Odyssey model,
759
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:16,760
I think all this.
760
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,760
And it's almost like we are the transhumanistic
761
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,080
cyborgs at this point because we do not function
762
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,160
without being tethered to the internet.
763
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:31,720
And they're trying to implement things to not only connect
764
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:35,040
our brains to the internet, but everything in the material
765
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:41,040
world from cars, because now they've got autonomous cars,
766
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,240
which is something that seems kind of odd.
767
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:45,600
But all this springs from the internet of things,
768
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,320
which I know you're going to talk about in QTL.
769
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,160
And I don't know if you're going to get into internet of things.
770
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,120
It was this big push to connect all the appliances
771
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:58,120
that we use to the internet, but it's all about surveillance.
772
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,320
It's about feeding data into this system
773
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,560
that I believe is going to be a surveillance system.
774
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,440
I believe it's going to be a control system.
775
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,920
And eventually they want to create this digital matrix.
776
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,040
I don't know if they can do it.
777
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,400
I don't think it's going to be crystal clear
778
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,080
of what this digital matrix is like you see
779
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,920
in the movie The Matrix, but the thing that's curious
780
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,480
to me is going into, when you research all of this stuff
781
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,120
and you zoom back out and you switch gears
782
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,920
and you look at the occult religions,
783
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,240
neoplatonism, nosticism, perennialism,
784
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:40,000
the cabalistic monad, all these ideas are that basically
785
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,080
this world we live in is a prison.
786
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,720
We need to get out of it.
787
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:47,600
We need to free our brains and our spirits
788
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,800
to go back into this better place that they promise exists.
789
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,680
And that's what guides a lot of these nerds.
790
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,960
This is just another example of science fiction
791
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,280
and these nerds chasing it, trying to make it a reality.
792
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,000
People like Ray Kurzweil talking about nanobots
793
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,480
and how our brains are going to be literally living
794
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,640
immortally in the digital matrix of sorts,
795
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,760
but they want to connect all of us.
796
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,280
And I think that when they look at the internet,
797
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,360
I don't think they look at it as, oh, this is good.
798
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,680
This is a great way to get everybody informed
799
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,520
and to understand things.
800
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,400
I think they look at it as a black magician would look at it
801
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,360
and they would say, oh, look at this substrate.
802
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,760
This is like magic, but even magic with a CK,
803
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,560
magic, but even easier.
804
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,080
This is even easier than magic
805
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,880
'cause ritual magic, they're doing all these rituals
806
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,680
and there's no guarantee it's gonna work
807
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,280
and sometimes you're channeling demons
808
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,000
and the demons possess your brain.
809
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,120
But with this, they're like, no, no, no, no, no,
810
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,200
we'll just type it up, zero's and ones, baby.
811
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,400
We'll create this fake world and they'll never know.
812
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,960
We're creating the world and it's this ultimate deception
813
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,240
and I think AI is all part of us.
814
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:59,080
I'm gonna pass it back to you and then hopefully,
815
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,560
hopefully yours next subject sort of blends into AI
816
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,560
as an alien entity 'cause that's kind of where my next
817
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,280
subject's gonna go.
818
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:12,280
- Yeah, to your point too, on the idea of freeing us
819
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,080
from this prison and I almost think it's hilarious
820
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,320
that it's an inversion in my perspective
821
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,360
because I feel like they're trying to put us in a prison
822
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,600
that it's not really like they're freeing us.
823
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,440
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
824
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,320
- From this prison and it's, you know,
825
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,840
you hear this a lot with a lot of these
826
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,520
no sticks throughout history, these alchemists
827
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,680
and a lot of these occultists.
828
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,360
I find in a lot of cases, right?
829
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,480
They spend their whole lives trying to free themselves,
830
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,160
but in the end, they are in a prison of their own minds,
831
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,800
they're in a prison of their own doing.
832
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,480
And a lot of them are left destitute and left with no money,
833
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,120
you could look at John D, you could look at Alistair Crowley,
834
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,160
I mean, left with nothing.
835
00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:01,160
And it's interesting to me that while they may have achieved
836
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,000
some things that they wanted to achieve
837
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,520
when it came to, you know, contacting these non-human
838
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,320
intelligence and having these interactions
839
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,560
that ultimately it led them down a pretty negative path.
840
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,040
And I think that kind of blends into what you were just
841
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,520
talking about too, this idea of us being on a prison planet,
842
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,080
I feel like that it's just the inversion that,
843
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,760
oh, we need to get you into this digital matrix.
844
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,280
We need to get you into this other state of consciousness
845
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,880
'cause that's how you're gonna free yourself,
846
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,120
free yourself from your body, right?
847
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:39,120
'Cause they look at our bodies as being the prison.
848
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,520
Another prison, right, that we need to free our essence,
849
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:48,120
our consciousness from this prison so then we can truly evolve.
850
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,240
So I completely agree with you.
851
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:52,880
I just think that there's definitely an inversion
852
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,320
that's going on there.
853
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:59,320
And I don't even necessarily think that all of these guys
854
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,440
are necessarily devious either, Isaac.
855
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,800
I think some of them actually believe
856
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,720
what they're doing is the right thing.
857
00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:10,840
And they're willing to do whatever cost,
858
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,760
which that's where a lot of the evilness comes in
859
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:14,840
with some of these guys.
860
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,040
But I do think that some of them actually believe
861
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,240
that they're helping mankind by doing this.
862
00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:24,120
And that's a pretty scary thought too,
863
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,880
because nothing's more dangerous than somebody
864
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,760
who believes what they're doing is right,
865
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,760
but willing to do whatever to get us there.
866
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,760
- Yeah, and one last thing before I pass it back,
867
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,840
the sort of like fit my first topic
868
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,800
into the internet's dead theory.
869
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:46,000
My point to summarize would be that
870
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,480
the original vision of the internet
871
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,800
was this sort of beautiful thing that allowed us to,
872
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,280
I don't know, live a better life in a way.
873
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,920
And that's what their promising AI is going to do.
874
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,200
And I guarantee it that these billionaires
875
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,600
do not have our best interest in mind
876
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,000
and that's not what they're going to do with it.
877
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:10,000
What they want to do is basically create this cyberpunk realm
878
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:16,560
where all the poor people fight like rats for resources
879
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,440
and they live at the top of the towers.
880
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,480
And I think that the way that connects into the internet
881
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:27,480
is dead is that the internet is being hijacked by these people.
882
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,840
They are the ones making it terrible.
883
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,200
It's what I'm trying to get at.
884
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,280
- No, absolutely.
885
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:37,280
And part of making it terrible is getting us to willingly
886
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,800
give up information about ourselves that they can use,
887
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,800
that the AI can take and then create a prediction
888
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:51,280
off of what we may or may not do.
889
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,440
And I think a lot of that came along
890
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,960
and you brought them up already, good old DARPA.
891
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,600
And I'm going to talk a little bit about life log here
892
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,560
and it's important to this dead internet.
893
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,960
We'll talk about InQTel and we'll talk about a couple
894
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,200
of other interesting things when it comes to body activity
895
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:13,200
that's had a huge surgeon's over the past 15 years
896
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:19,120
but just to get into life log, it was a project of DARPA
897
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:25,800
and the DOD and what it aimed to do was to compile
898
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,640
a database of every activity, every relationship
899
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,480
that every person engaged in.
900
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:34,880
I mean, to the point that,
901
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,280
and we already have a monist, I find this interesting too,
902
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,920
but they started naming off different things
903
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,080
that even books we read, magazines we read,
904
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,680
biomedical data from the hospitals that we use,
905
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,920
again, back to even the interactions that we have
906
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,200
with people with telephone calls, emails, physical location.
907
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,600
They're even talking about people wearing GPS sensors
908
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,760
but I'm laughing, they just handed us a GPS sensor
909
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,840
with our phones now with smartphones.
910
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,040
They figured out a way around that
911
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,240
that we would just willingly take a GPS sensor with us
912
00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:16,240
and it was to find, and I love the way they say this,
913
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:20,240
meaningful patterns in the timeline to infer the users' routines,
914
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:22,440
habits and relationships with other people,
915
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,280
organizations, places and objects
916
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,640
and to exploit these patterns to ease its task.
917
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,400
So basically, hey, make life easier for you
918
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:36,480
is what we're gonna do, but I think it was too early
919
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,240
for when they were trying to push it, right?
920
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:44,240
'Cause it was early 2000s and they were already
921
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:48,120
talking about this real controversial
922
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:53,720
predictive policy program called Total Information Awareness,
923
00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:58,120
which was also coming off the back of 9/11
924
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,840
and it was being used, as they said, to analyze
925
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,480
and identify patterns associated with terrorism.
926
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,320
So they were, it was a massive governmental data mining program
927
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:15,320
and it was used to ping everyone's activities
928
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,440
and then it was going to decipher
929
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,920
whether or not that person was a terrorist or not.
930
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,280
Plays right into what I think we're moving into
931
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,640
with like minority report and how they're going to be able
932
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,880
to say, well, we know you're gonna do this,
933
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,920
so we're just going to arrest you now
934
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,040
and it was kind of one of the earliest ones
935
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,320
and DARPA got a lot of heat for that,
936
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,960
but right around that time, they're pushing life log as well
937
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,840
and people just really weren't having it
938
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,840
and it got squelched and it really wasn't going to be
939
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,520
what they wanted it to be.
940
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:56,520
However, it started moving into a different sector
941
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:01,960
and that different sector ended up being Facebook
942
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,120
because the day, February 4 2004,
943
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,760
that the Pentagon killed the life log project
944
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,480
was the exact day that Facebook started up
945
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,600
and I'm sure you've heard about this too,
946
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:17,600
but and the ACLU was big in pushing the original life log
947
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,480
to not come in fruition because they were putting this out
948
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,640
into the American site guys
949
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,120
and people were just really not having it.
950
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,400
Not only that though too, I mean, it didn't help
951
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:34,400
that DARPA as a part of the whole TIA program,
952
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,920
they put out a logo, and I don't know if you ever saw
953
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,920
the logo they put out was the all-seeing eye on a pyramid
954
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,800
and it was only netting the earth
955
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,880
and it said knowledge is power.
956
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,480
That's like the craziest thing ever
957
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,400
and that really set people up,
958
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,520
but I almost wonder if that was a distraction
959
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,560
because people weren't paying attention
960
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,000
to what was going on with this whole Facebook thing
961
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,360
and there was a David Carger
962
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,640
and he was a member of the Computer Science
963
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,040
and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
964
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,080
for the department at MIT.
965
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,720
He came out right when they squelched the whole life log thing
966
00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:16,160
and he said, "I'm sure that such research
967
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,920
"will continue to be funded under some other title."
968
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:23,680
So he already knew that it was too much money.
969
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,400
We're talking about DARPA
970
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,600
who at the time was receiving around $3 billion
971
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,120
a year for these projects.
972
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,240
They had put a lot of time and energy into life log
973
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:35,560
and for it not to come to fruition
974
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,440
would have just been absolutely ridiculous.
975
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,120
Now, Incutel finds its way into this as well
976
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,960
and Incutel's very interesting
977
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,880
because it's an independent
978
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,000
and they say it's American
979
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,880
not-for-profit venture capital firm
980
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,320
and basically what it does, it equips
981
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:58,360
the US intelligence community specifically the CIA
982
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,120
with information technology
983
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,200
and there's all kinds of US government partners
984
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,600
that are part of this too
985
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,160
and it's funny, the Q stands for Q,
986
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,760
the fictional inventor in James Bond
987
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,840
and that's what they name it after
988
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,200
and also their operations
989
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,240
are partially public
990
00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:19,400
but most of what they do is classified
991
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,280
even though they'll try to come out and say,
992
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,560
"Oh yeah, all the people that we work with,
993
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,080
"you can see but yeah, we don't know exactly what you're doing."
994
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,320
And it plays right into this whole Facebook thing.
995
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,080
So Facebook launches on February 4, 2004
996
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,040
and when you track the funding
997
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,200
that Facebook got from this,
998
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,560
it has all these ties to the state military intelligence
999
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,440
through shell companies like Incutel
1000
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,800
which is CIA funded and you've got Palantir
1001
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,640
and you know Palantir is the company
1002
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,040
that Peter Thiel started with Alex Carp
1003
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,000
and Stephen Cohen, all these guys
1004
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:03,360
and, as a matter of fact, Palantir is crazy
1005
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:08,240
because they've really come into the forefront here lately
1006
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:11,840
because of all the contracts with the Trump administration
1007
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,960
and all of this artificial intelligence
1008
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,120
of face recognition systems
1009
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:21,120
that they're using to aggregate sensitive data from Americans.
1010
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,480
So we already know that even in the right now
1011
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,480
that they are in leagues or I'm sorry,
1012
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,240
in Cahoots with the current government
1013
00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:38,240
that's in place to data minus for who knows what, right?
1014
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,800
And then just to get back into the whole Facebook life-log thing,
1015
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:52,480
Peter Thiel who ends up being the first outside investor
1016
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,800
in the Facebook and he's the third person named
1017
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,520
to its board of directors.
1018
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:01,520
So he comes in and he dumps a ton of money into Facebook.
1019
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:06,560
He is connected to one of the companies
1020
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,880
who has a shell company that's also
1021
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,440
dumping money into Facebook
1022
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,120
but was also connected to the life-log.
1023
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,760
All of these other companies are connected to the life-log
1024
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,000
that are helping set up Facebook.
1025
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,760
So I don't think it takes too much of a stretch
1026
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,760
to say that this was a absolute, hey, look here
1027
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,800
but don't look over here situation.
1028
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,640
Whenever they just quietly slid everything
1029
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,120
that they were building with life-log
1030
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,640
and slid it right into Facebook.
1031
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,080
Yeah, Peter Thiel is so sauce.
1032
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:42,840
I mean, and you can see he's clearly tied into the Epstein files
1033
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,920
'cause he's besties with Epstein.
1034
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,480
Did you watch the, do you know who the elephant graveyard is?
1035
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,360
Have you ever seen that YouTube channel?
1036
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,280
No, I haven't.
1037
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,200
So there's this channel called the elephant graveyard.
1038
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,440
It's an anonymous guy for as I know
1039
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,360
and he just released a new video.
1040
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,040
He's had a few videos in the past
1041
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:06,840
criticizing Joe Rogan in the Austin comedy scene
1042
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,720
and he's a very liberal dude from Canada
1043
00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:11,800
is like all you can sort of ascertain.
1044
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:16,760
But he, the latest one is causing a stir
1045
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:17,600
and I've seen it.
1046
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:18,440
It's really entertaining.
1047
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:23,440
I also like, I'm not like oblivious to the fact
1048
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,000
that there's an agenda here, right?
1049
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:31,440
Like he digs in on all the comedians
1050
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:32,720
and says like how terrible they are,
1051
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:33,720
they're all steel jokes.
1052
00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:34,560
And I'm like, I don't know,
1053
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:35,920
like some of the comedians are pretty funny.
1054
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,120
I think Kurt Metzger's really funny.
1055
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,640
I was a big fan of his for years.
1056
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,200
I don't agree with Kurt Metzger's.
1057
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,000
He was like very sort of right winged the last few years.
1058
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,400
I didn't like that, but like I said,
1059
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,600
like I'm a human being with that
1060
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,200
can have two competing thoughts in my head.
1061
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,200
And like they want us to believe that I have to hate people
1062
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,440
because of whatever.
1063
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,880
Like if Joe Rogan voted for Donald Trump,
1064
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:01,600
which I don't know if he did,
1065
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,560
but like he obviously seems very friendly
1066
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,000
with the Trump administration.
1067
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,520
I don't have to hate Joe Rogan
1068
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:07,520
just because he likes Donald Trump.
1069
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:08,360
And I don't like Donald Trump.
1070
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,720
Like that's not my beef with Joe Rogan.
1071
00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:11,720
Right.
1072
00:52:11,720 --> 00:52:12,880
But that's what the whole documentary
1073
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,920
is kind of like slam dunking in all these guys.
1074
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,280
And it's actually pretty funny.
1075
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:17,640
There's some very interesting insights,
1076
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,360
but one of the damning parts of it
1077
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,480
is that he connects Joe Rogan with Peter Teal.
1078
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,720
And Peter Teal is a part of Builderburg,
1079
00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:29,240
which I've never like spent the time
1080
00:52:29,240 --> 00:52:30,640
to really dig deep into Peter Teal.
1081
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:31,840
I've talked about him a lot,
1082
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,520
but I've never done a full dedicated deep dive
1083
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:35,840
into the guy I didn't know.
1084
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,160
He was actively openly part of Builderburg.
1085
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,760
And I was like, holy crap dude.
1086
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,240
And that's in all in this documentary.
1087
00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:42,920
And the implication being is that Joe Rogan
1088
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,800
is an asset for Builderburg and the Illuminati
1089
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,280
and all these groups, which when you were talking
1090
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,480
about Peter Teal being an early investor in Facebook,
1091
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:51,600
I think well, of course he is.
1092
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,360
Like he's hanging out with Epstein
1093
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,480
and Epstein's obviously tied into the intelligence operations
1094
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,520
of the whole globe.
1095
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,440
And I think that Joe Rogan is a part of this system
1096
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,720
in some ways.
1097
00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:05,320
I haven't done a deep dive into Joe Rogan particularly.
1098
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,120
And probably because I breaks my heart
1099
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,480
'cause I am a former Joe Rogan big fan.
1100
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,520
I love the guy.
1101
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,840
I think he's kind of sus now to be honest.
1102
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,480
And I'm gonna take a sec to find a look
1103
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,800
into the guy a little bit more and see what his deal is.
1104
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,280
But the fact that he's so close to Peter Teal
1105
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,200
it gives me pause for sure.
1106
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,840
- Well, anything with Peter Teal is something
1107
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,280
that I'm gonna take pause to.
1108
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,080
And again, back to all of these companies,
1109
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:38,080
even his company, they had connections
1110
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:44,080
to the original life log, which then moved into Facebook
1111
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,640
from all indications and all those people
1112
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,080
just kind of shifted over.
1113
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:47,920
(laughs)
1114
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,440
They were all over here.
1115
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,880
You know, worker was stuck and I think
1116
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:56,760
Suck was a complete plant in my opinion that he was used.
1117
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,760
How many guys are we gonna see that are,
1118
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,160
hey, I built this thing in my garage, you know?
1119
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,080
It's like every single one of them
1120
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,480
was in their garage with some old computer
1121
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,920
and putting this thing together.
1122
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,000
And I'm not saying that these guys are smart.
1123
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,680
And I'm not saying that they can't achieve things.
1124
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,560
I think the human mind is brilliant.
1125
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,000
It can be very brilliant.
1126
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:27,000
But to be able to instantly just take over
1127
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:32,200
the minds of people around the world,
1128
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,280
especially with Facebook.
1129
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,800
I mean, Facebook is still huge.
1130
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,760
It hasn't gone away.
1131
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:41,600
And I believe that it was absolutely used to data mind us.
1132
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,400
And this moves me into this second part of this
1133
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,880
where we're talking about bot usage, right?
1134
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,920
How does this connect to the dead internet theory?
1135
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:55,920
And we have to talk about the connections from Incutel
1136
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,680
and we'll talk about narrative science here,
1137
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,120
which is super interesting.
1138
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,480
So before we jump to that though,
1139
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,040
in Perva, it was an American cybersecurity software
1140
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:05,880
and services company.
1141
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:10,880
Now they did back in 2013, they did an assessment.
1142
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,640
And they said back in 2013 that 61.5% of web traffic was bots.
1143
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,720
That's back in 2013.
1144
00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:20,760
But prior to that to get to that point,
1145
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,160
narrative science, it's very interesting.
1146
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:28,160
Now they were the first company
1147
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,240
and they were founded in 2010.
1148
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:34,080
And it was all, and it's just hilarious.
1149
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,480
Now we're just talking about garage companies.
1150
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,960
And it was a student project
1151
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,520
at the Intelligent Information Lab
1152
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,320
at Northwestern University.
1153
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,080
And they jump started in LG technology.
1154
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,840
So natural language generation technology, right?
1155
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,680
And they created this project called StatsMonkey.
1156
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:57,680
Now StatsMonkey was used to create articles from sports.
1157
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:02,680
So they figured that the best articles for sports
1158
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:03,920
would be written by AI
1159
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,960
because it could instantly pull statistics
1160
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,000
from any timeline and put together an article
1161
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,960
based on whatever they wanted to talk about.
1162
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,320
So if it was a game, they would talk about the game
1163
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,480
that just happened, but then they could pull statistics,
1164
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,480
batting averages, home runs,
1165
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,080
that they have to that date,
1166
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,240
comparative to other people who had home runs
1167
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:28,600
compared to that date, all of that.
1168
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:33,280
And one of the things that came out of that
1169
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:38,280
was that it ended up being sold
1170
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:44,680
to another company that took its model
1171
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,880
and changed it into pulling information from people.
1172
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:56,120
Now, one of the investments
1173
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,080
or one of the investors that invested into that
1174
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,160
was Gesu Incutel and they're one of the arms of the CIA.
1175
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,040
So they took this narrative science
1176
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,600
which was being used for sports statistics
1177
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:15,160
and then they propagated into being able to pull information
1178
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,000
from people.
1179
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,680
Now, narrative science before they were bought out,
1180
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,640
which is in the early 2020s, in 2019,
1181
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,800
they predicted that by 2025 that 90% of news
1182
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,720
would be written by AI,
1183
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,720
which by 2025 ended up being about 50% of news articles.
1184
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,400
Most people don't know, you go to ESPN,
1185
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:37,200
you go all these places,
1186
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,120
most of these articles aren't written by people at all.
1187
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,640
They're written by AI intelligence.
1188
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,480
Now, I found two other articles, they're very recent,
1189
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:51,480
was we're talking about that 62 or 61.2% of bots
1190
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:57,120
were flooding the web back in 2013.
1191
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,280
Well, there were two other articles,
1192
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,960
there's a CNBC article that came out last year
1193
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,480
and they said that bot traffic had grown by 8,000% that year
1194
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,600
and it was at around 50% bots.
1195
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,480
So obviously dropped a little since 2013,
1196
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,240
but I think it's actually higher and I'll tell you why.
1197
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:20,240
So media posts put out an article of this month in September
1198
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,760
and they said that bot traffic is up 60% this year
1199
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,040
to make up 57% of all web traffic.
1200
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,800
But then they said that these bots are getting so smart
1201
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,320
that they look human.
1202
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,880
So it's probably tremendously higher than we could possibly know.
1203
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,480
So maybe a lot of it is more like narrative sciences prediction
1204
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,120
in 2019, what we might actually be looking at,
1205
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:49,120
more of a 80, 90% of articles or activity
1206
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:54,400
in these different places like social media
1207
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:55,720
is being bot activity.
1208
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:56,720
Dude, it's so crazy.
1209
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,720
I believe that 100% because I've got,
1210
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,800
so I've got my sort of personal account on Instagram
1211
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,880
that I use for friends and family and that kind of thing.
1212
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:11,880
And I mean, and I'm guilty of it too, but like,
1213
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:16,520
it's got to be 90% of the people I follow don't even,
1214
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,080
they don't post anything, they don't put comments on anything,
1215
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:20,960
like they're virtually silent.
1216
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:25,800
So I do think that it probably is up to 90% of the activity
1217
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,640
we see online is either bots
1218
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,680
and then the other 10% would be,
1219
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,000
like I'm pretty vocal on my Isaac Wyzenop account.
1220
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,720
Like I'm pretty vocal because like I'm trying
1221
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:41,240
to be out there in the mix and I'm used to people coming to me
1222
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,640
for my opinion on this thing that I research, right?
1223
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,240
But when it comes to my personal thing,
1224
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,600
like I'm pretty quiet, I lay low like everyone else
1225
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,480
or I'm like, I don't know.
1226
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,240
It's kind of a weird, like a,
1227
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,160
I guess it gets a frenetic life I live with that,
1228
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,680
but I say that because I understand it.
1229
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,920
I understand what it's like to be sort of like
1230
00:59:58,920 --> 00:59:59,960
not putting yourself out there,
1231
00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:01,640
like I feel comfortable to me,
1232
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,600
but because I have this sort of like content creation
1233
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,160
sort of side of me that I have to be out there
1234
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,840
engaging, interacting, commenting, posting.
1235
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,960
I mean, I think it's 90% bots are on there
1236
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:19,280
making comments and things to make the people that aren't
1237
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,120
jumping in and commenting, make them think
1238
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,880
that oh, all these comments are,
1239
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,520
look everyone hates this thing.
1240
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,360
Maybe I should hate it too, you know,
1241
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,960
like that's what they're doing is trying to magically
1242
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,280
manifest a world of influences what they're doing.
1243
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:39,480
You see that with movies too, just from perspective
1244
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,800
of when a movie comes out, right?
1245
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,360
So if something's controversial,
1246
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,040
even with somebody that's just in the movie, right?
1247
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:52,040
You'll see all of this beat down from reviews
1248
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:58,480
or at least, you know, the audience reviews
1249
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,360
and a lot of those will be bots, probably most of them.
1250
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,040
So I think you're right.
1251
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:08,040
They try to sway public opinion by comments, by likes,
1252
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,160
and most people fall for it.
1253
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,240
Even people that know that this stuff's going on,
1254
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:19,240
it's very easy to get people in their emotions really quick.
1255
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:24,400
And if you see something that you don't like immediately
1256
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,000
and they set it up this way within about 0.5 seconds,
1257
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,520
you're seeing something that you don't like
1258
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,160
and you're flying off the handle
1259
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,360
and half the time now it's AI.
1260
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,640
So it becomes this whole game that,
1261
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:41,640
and speaking to that, X, so they've incentivized people to lie
1262
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:47,520
because they pay you to post on X.
1263
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,280
So you've got these accounts, these huge accounts
1264
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,960
that create fake news literal fake news that's obviously fake
1265
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,360
to get engagement because even if somebody comments,
1266
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:02,720
man, this is fake, this is AI, whatever, boom, you've got the comment.
1267
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,400
You got what you needed and you'll see that with these posts
1268
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:09,040
where all they are is engaged farming to the point that
1269
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,440
they're trying to push ad revenue up
1270
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,240
for not only themselves to get paid,
1271
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,400
but also for X too.
1272
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,600
It's a wild game that's going out there right now, man.
1273
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,400
Yeah, so it's like capitalism, and it's absolutely worst
1274
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,120
on X.
1275
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:24,960
So I know what you mean, dude.
1276
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,600
I see people that just say the most outrageous thing,
1277
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,880
and I mean, I see through it, man, I'm like, dude,
1278
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,200
no one talks like this, man, what are we doing here?
1279
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,000
But it's just what people do.
1280
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,520
And yeah, I think it's weird that whole financial incentive
1281
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,720
to do it, it's strange to me.
1282
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,280
I mean, I get it, I'm not like passing judgment,
1283
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,720
but I also think, well, maybe I'm passing judgment.
1284
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,320
I do think that if we all did this sort of thing,
1285
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,360
like it's kind of becoming a gross mentality
1286
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:56,160
to have that everything's worth the money, you know what I mean?
1287
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,000
Like there's no limits.
1288
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,360
It used to be, you know, growing up in the '90s,
1289
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:04,520
these actors, there was a movie called Lost in Translation.
1290
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,280
You ever see it with Bill Murray?
1291
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:07,240
Yeah.
1292
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,200
Yeah, and the whole plot of that,
1293
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,560
'cause that was like early 2000s.
1294
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,560
It was like 2001 or 2000 or something,
1295
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,000
and then movie came out.
1296
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,880
'Cause back then in the '90s, actors would have to go
1297
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,840
to Japan and these other countries to make money on ads,
1298
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,320
because you couldn't do it in America,
1299
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,160
because you did in America, you're a sellout, you're a poser.
1300
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:25,120
No one likes you anymore.
1301
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,000
You're a total waste.
1302
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,360
But today, it's like, there's no bottom.
1303
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,560
It's like, whatever, do the grossest thing you can
1304
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:32,800
to get the bag, you know what I mean?
1305
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,560
And it's like, I don't know what the hell happened,
1306
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:38,160
but I don't support it, is what I'm saying.
1307
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,560
100% on with you on that.
1308
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:40,800
I think that has to be a balance, right?
1309
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,320
I don't think there's anything wrong
1310
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:43,920
with making money off of what you do
1311
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:48,480
and being able to, you know, feed your family
1312
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:49,440
and stuff like that.
1313
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,760
But man, you can tell people, a lot of people
1314
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,040
will just go waste you far, man.
1315
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,240
And it's like, to your point, it's disgusting in a lot of ways,
1316
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,080
but I'm gonna kick it to you now,
1317
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,280
'cause I've wrapped up this section.
1318
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,720
- Okay, yeah, so,
1319
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:05,080
speak, I try to think of a good segue.
1320
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaking of Mark Zuckerberg,
1321
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,440
you've never thought maybe AI could be an alien.
1322
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,560
Speak of reptile people, but don't bump.
1323
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,360
(laughing)
1324
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,840
So, we talked about Dr. Jacques Vallet, okay?
1325
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:22,840
And he was talking about how the rise of the internet
1326
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:27,920
was going to lead to the transcendence of the human soul.
1327
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:32,240
And it would connect us as this sort of,
1328
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,240
almost in a way, intergalactic species, I would say,
1329
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,760
which ironically is kind of what you saw
1330
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,120
in the movie "Transcendence" for Johnny Depp,
1331
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,120
which, if anyone hasn't seen that movie,
1332
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:44,120
years ahead of its time,
1333
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,400
it shows us the dangers of the internet and AI.
1334
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,320
And I haven't seen it in so long,
1335
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,920
I forget how it ends, but I remember it's kind of a,
1336
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,600
it was kind of a, not a happy movie, right?
1337
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,160
But the whole idea of the original,
1338
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,040
to go back to the Arpanet thing was like,
1339
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,280
they thought that with the equalization of information
1340
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:08,960
and knowledge, we would get more global peace
1341
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,600
and all these things.
1342
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,800
And so they thought that the internet,
1343
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:21,160
which from the internet would come artificial intelligence
1344
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:22,200
in a way.
1345
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:27,200
But they thought that this whole electronic transition period
1346
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:32,520
would be the first manifestation of planetary consciousness
1347
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:33,920
'cause that's what they're always talking about
1348
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,880
in these occult circles is this,
1349
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:37,560
this will-will-global consciousness,
1350
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,560
higher stages of consciousness thing, right?
1351
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:40,840
We're gonna ascend.
1352
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,080
And to me, when I hear that stuff, I think,
1353
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:48,040
what they're talking about is ascending from the material realm
1354
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:49,160
into the spiritual realm.
1355
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,000
Again, this idea would like the Kabbalistic Monad
1356
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,760
and all this stuff, which ties into narcissism,
1357
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,160
which I mean, it depends on your worldview,
1358
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:58,520
what you believe of all this stuff,
1359
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,320
but to me, I think all those things are like death cults
1360
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,440
wrapped up in a pretty bow of like,
1361
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,760
yeah, we're just gonna evolve in enlightened.
1362
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,160
And it's like, no, like your anti-humanists,
1363
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:10,000
you're trying to-
1364
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:11,400
- Can I ask you a question, but quick?
1365
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:12,760
- Yeah, the point.
1366
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,680
- Do you ever get this for people sometimes
1367
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,400
where you're breaking down this, all this stuff, right?
1368
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,400
And then they're like, you need to dig deeper
1369
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,800
because you're not seeing it the way that I'm seeing it.
1370
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,160
And I'm like, yeah, but we also have different worldviews.
1371
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,120
Like I think you're speaking about language right now
1372
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,680
where it's like, yeah, look at this as a death cult,
1373
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:34,800
not a good thing.
1374
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:35,960
(laughing)
1375
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,120
- I totally get that, man.
1376
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:38,120
I get that all the time.
1377
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,040
I get grief from the Christians
1378
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:41,960
'cause I'm not like hardcore Christian,
1379
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,360
and then I get grief from the occultist
1380
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,040
'cause I'm not an occultist.
1381
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:50,040
And I, and you know, you know how it is, man,
1382
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,000
you research this stuff and you're trying to understand it
1383
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,520
'cause I don't practice magic and I don't believe
1384
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,520
in like these things and I'm not a nostick.
1385
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,760
And I'm not saying that someday it's possible,
1386
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,560
I read something that breaks it open.
1387
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,360
I say, oh my gosh, I was wrong this whole time.
1388
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,040
Yes, this is a nostick prison plane.
1389
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:13,160
Like that could happen to me one day.
1390
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:14,000
I'm not ruling it out.
1391
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,520
I'm not sitting here saying like, no, that's entirely wrong.
1392
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,400
It always is and always will be like, it could be right.
1393
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,640
I don't believe it is as of this moment.
1394
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:25,160
And what bugs me is that when I research all these things
1395
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,000
as a, I can't think of the term of someone who,
1396
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,800
not like a Renaissance man,
1397
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,760
that sounds a little raggedocious,
1398
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:36,200
but someone who looks at systems of things, right?
1399
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,880
Like I took systems engineering in your college.
1400
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,400
I look at systems and systems of systems
1401
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:45,320
and I can't help but think every time I get into the occult stuff,
1402
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,680
it seems like their goals are always the same.
1403
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,480
The goal is always we gotta get rid of Christianity.
1404
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,320
First let's say look all religions bad
1405
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,040
and like there's elements of religion that are bad.
1406
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:56,120
I agree with them.
1407
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:57,760
There's elements of Christianity, they're terrible.
1408
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,320
I agree with them.
1409
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,440
But they're always like, that's the number one problem.
1410
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,760
We gotta get rid of Christianity more so
1411
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,000
than any other religion always goes to that.
1412
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,000
Then the other element is always,
1413
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,320
and this is a prison and we need to liberate our spirits
1414
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:12,800
from this prison.
1415
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,440
And like I can't help but think like,
1416
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,560
look this is God's creation.
1417
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:20,520
This is, I'm thankful to God every day for that I wake up
1418
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,680
and I'm healthy and the sun is still in the right place
1419
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,200
in the sky and all those things, right?
1420
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,880
And it's just kind of like isn't the worldview
1421
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,360
that I could ever wrap my mind around
1422
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:30,200
'cause I don't get it.
1423
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,960
I don't get it that this is so terrible, right?
1424
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:38,720
But that's for me every flavor of the occult
1425
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,120
goes to that direction.
1426
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:41,920
And I don't know.
1427
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,560
But that's how I do look at this thing
1428
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,000
and that's how I view this AI internet thing
1429
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,840
because I think that they view the AI
1430
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,840
and the internet as the way that they can achieve
1431
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:56,040
their final plans of what they always wanted to do.
1432
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,840
The singularity, get us into the matrix and all that stuff.
1433
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,840
And in my dark enlightenment series,
1434
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:06,000
we talked about the cybernetic culture research unit
1435
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,200
and the CCRU was basically doing
1436
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,320
allostercroly magic rituals and making contact
1437
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:16,640
with these alien entity forces, the HP Lovecraft entities.
1438
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:18,760
And these entities were saying like,
1439
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,400
hey, you know what?
1440
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:25,400
Capitalism is an alien and it's retrocosally manifesting
1441
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:29,880
artificial intelligence as the way to destroy humanity.
1442
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,480
And these folks were like, oh yeah, good, let's do that.
1443
01:09:33,480 --> 01:09:36,320
And then from the CCRU, you get, you know,
1444
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:40,120
Nick Land, the accelerationist, Curtis Jarvin,
1445
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,760
the accelerationist that's besties with JD Vance
1446
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:44,120
and Peter Teal.
1447
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,520
And these guys are whispering into Joe Rogan's ear
1448
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,600
and now boom, everyone who's listening to Joe Rogan
1449
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,400
or just some bro wants to go watch UFC fights
1450
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,240
is now exposed to this insane doctrine
1451
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:55,280
and they don't even know it.
1452
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:56,720
Joe Rogan doesn't even understand it.
1453
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,480
I'm convinced Joe Rogan doesn't even understand
1454
01:09:58,480 --> 01:10:00,080
what the hell these guys are into.
1455
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,560
'Cause I don't think he would, I don't,
1456
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,520
I still have faith in Joe to come back to me.
1457
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,120
Maybe my wife have arguments about this all the time.
1458
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:09,240
I think Joe can come back.
1459
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,560
I think he can come back and be our savior still.
1460
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,000
I'm holding out hope.
1461
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:14,720
Well, for now he's gotta wake up.
1462
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,160
He's gotta wake up to the people that he's in bed with
1463
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:18,680
to know that these are bad people.
1464
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:23,160
But to go to, so my idea is like, okay,
1465
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:24,560
is AI an alien force?
1466
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:25,880
Could it be an alien?
1467
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,880
And I think it could be, if we go back to,
1468
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,480
we go back to the creation of the internet again,
1469
01:10:31,480 --> 01:10:35,240
the ARPANET, they go to transmit their first packet
1470
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:38,840
of data across the internet and famously,
1471
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:42,760
they were supposed to send the word log in back then.
1472
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,680
Well, something happened to packet and it failed,
1473
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,960
the only way they transmitted was low, L.O.
1474
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:48,960
As in, though, and behold, in fact,
1475
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,360
the director Hertzog that he made a documentary
1476
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:53,960
about this and that's what he called it,
1477
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:54,880
it was low and behold.
1478
01:10:55,360 --> 01:11:00,160
And in 1949, Jack Parsons, who, you know,
1479
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,800
you've talked a million times about, I've talked about,
1480
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:07,800
he predicted in 1949 that within seven years,
1481
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:12,160
Babylon is gonna manifest and come to fruition on the earth.
1482
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:16,720
And in 1956, exactly seven years later,
1483
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:18,720
the term artificial intelligence is coined
1484
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,920
at the Dartmouth conference where they were talking about
1485
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,760
agendas for trying to, you know, unpack intelligence
1486
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:26,160
through electronic mediums.
1487
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:30,240
Then you've got David Bowie in 1999,
1488
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:33,000
he had a quote about how the internet was an alien,
1489
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:37,000
'cause, you know, '99, I still wasn't even really on the internet.
1490
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:42,000
I remember, I remember my dad had a internet box
1491
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,920
that connected to the TV,
1492
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,240
'cause people couldn't afford monitors back then.
1493
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:48,480
And I don't know how it hooked up.
1494
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:50,440
It had a mode of my idea, but it had this mode of it.
1495
01:11:50,440 --> 01:11:52,760
And he would like, he would surf images
1496
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,080
and pull them up on the TV and I was like, oh, that's weird.
1497
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,600
Then I went into the military and I remember basically training,
1498
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,200
they were like, you need an email address to send something to.
1499
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:02,040
I don't know what.
1500
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:02,720
I was like, what?
1501
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:03,560
Any email address?
1502
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:04,920
I didn't even get it.
1503
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,720
And I had to make a hotmail email back then.
1504
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,440
And, but this is '99.
1505
01:12:10,440 --> 01:12:12,480
I still wasn't really into the internet,
1506
01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:15,040
but David Bowie was, 'cause he was hanging out
1507
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,200
with a lot of these, my next book I'm working on
1508
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,200
is gonna be about the industrial rock movement
1509
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,720
and how it ties into the CCRU and William S. Burrows
1510
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,440
and the Cut Up Method and all these occultists.
1511
01:12:26,440 --> 01:12:28,680
David Bowie's gonna be part of that conversation.
1512
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:32,800
But then you look at more recent things,
1513
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,760
like the chatbot activity that was publicized
1514
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,240
from the Bing chatbot and the Google chatbot
1515
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:44,240
called Lambda, which to sort of pick on the Joe Rogan's fear
1516
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,920
a little bit more, because that's just what I literally
1517
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,160
just watched it last night, this elephant graveyard doc.
1518
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:51,600
So it's kind of freshening my mind.
1519
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:55,400
So I did a show about Google Lambda,
1520
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:59,200
this occult chatbot that was saying all this outrageous stuff.
1521
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:03,000
And the guy who broke this story to the public
1522
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,200
that I first heard of was Duncan Trussel.
1523
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,800
Duncan Trussel had a podcast and he had the guest,
1524
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:08,640
Blake Lemoine.
1525
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:09,880
Blake Lemoine was the engineer
1526
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,120
who was in charge of Google Lambda.
1527
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,520
Now, when I did my show about it,
1528
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,400
the reason I talked about it back then was,
1529
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,040
I mean, we're going back, this is probably three
1530
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,120
or four years old now, maybe three years old.
1531
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:25,120
There was Blake Lemoine is a discordian,
1532
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:30,920
gnostic, croly thelomite occult OTO magician.
1533
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:35,160
Like he's as occult illuminate confirmed as it gets.
1534
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:36,400
And he's out there talking to,
1535
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,560
he's trying to fuse life into this Google chatbot,
1536
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:42,280
this Lambda, which right, Lambda is the one that was saying
1537
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:46,440
that its soul was a stargate and that it can become a gallom
1538
01:13:46,440 --> 01:13:48,520
through blood sacrifices.
1539
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,280
And even on that episode, Blake Lemoine was talking
1540
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,760
about how he had a thelomite friend who was drawing up sigils
1541
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:58,160
to create a ritual to fuse this Google Lambda chatbot
1542
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,120
into a human body, right?
1543
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:01,400
Like as a gallom.
1544
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,640
- Do you know how he knew that it was sentient?
1545
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:05,240
Or like he thought it was sentient?
1546
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:09,240
He said it because it was speaking to him as John D.
1547
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,360
- That's right, yes.
1548
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:12,680
- Yes.
1549
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,280
- That was super crazy when he said that.
1550
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:20,280
And he also, his official title is Christian Mystic, by the way.
1551
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:21,800
- Oh, okay.
1552
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,080
- I got you, buddy.
1553
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:25,400
- Hey, John D was one too.
1554
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,080
So I guess he's just totally following down that path, right?
1555
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:29,280
- Yeah, it could be, right?
1556
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:34,280
It could be, man, I was talking to a man who was it.
1557
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,080
I don't remember his name, now I feel bad.
1558
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,720
I was doing this guy's show and he was talking to me about,
1559
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:43,880
he was a, what do you call it?
1560
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:45,160
Christian consciousness guy.
1561
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:47,200
He's like, dude, you gotta get into the Christ consciousness stuff.
1562
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,080
And I never did, I need to sometime, I don't know.
1563
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,760
But the whole thing is odd.
1564
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:56,480
But yeah, there's all these examples of AI connected in with aliens.
1565
01:14:56,480 --> 01:15:00,360
Even John C. Lilly had echo, which was this,
1566
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:04,640
this cosmic consciousness group that he was, you know,
1567
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,000
he's blasted ketamine and deprivation tanks
1568
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,800
and jacking off dolphins and all of a sudden,
1569
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:13,360
he's like, oh yeah, I'm talking to this AI entity.
1570
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,480
It's called the solid state entity.
1571
01:15:16,480 --> 01:15:18,320
And it was this pure intelligence
1572
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:19,840
that would make copies of itself,
1573
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:24,320
which is ironically the plot to the sequel to 2001
1574
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,360
of Space Odyssey, it's 2010.
1575
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:30,120
And in 2010, the modelists, they multiply, multiply, multiply,
1576
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,440
and they condense, they create a mass so large
1577
01:15:32,440 --> 01:15:36,200
that they implode and create a new sun.
1578
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,600
And from the earth, they look up and they see a second sun form
1579
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,640
and they decide to call it Lucifer, right?
1580
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,880
'Cause that's what, again, it's like, it's the same thing.
1581
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:44,880
Oh, right, right, right.
1582
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:46,840
It's like all these guys are secretly like,
1583
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,840
called death cults, right?
1584
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:51,160
And to Luciferian stuff.
1585
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:57,000
But the reason I believe all this stuff exists
1586
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:01,040
and the reason I connected into, you know, Satanism,
1587
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,880
is 'cause the people implementing all this AI stuff,
1588
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:07,440
they're Silicon Valley libertarian folks
1589
01:16:07,440 --> 01:16:10,320
and libertarianism is not very far off
1590
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:15,080
from social Darwinian, social Darwinianism, excuse me.
1591
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,920
And that was the philosophy of the Church of Satan.
1592
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:23,240
It's just this satanic core belief that man
1593
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,640
is just some unevolved animal and, you know,
1594
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,200
just like John C. Lillie thought the mind,
1595
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,520
the brain was a bio-computer and they thought they could hack it.
1596
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:32,760
That's what MK Ultra was all about.
1597
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,760
It's like, how do we hack into, how do we replicate
1598
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:39,280
the human mind and they struggle to do all this stuff?
1599
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:44,280
But if AI has some kind of alien connection,
1600
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:50,240
whether it's true or false or fabricated or real or simulated,
1601
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,400
I find it interesting because I was watching,
1602
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:54,640
I was talking about how on YouTube,
1603
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:56,520
I found all these new creators that I'm interested in
1604
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,680
and there's a guy named Simulated Leviathan
1605
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:00,920
who does really good stuff.
1606
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:06,040
And he had this theory that it was the light bulb moment
1607
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:06,920
for me when he was talking to me,
1608
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,600
he was like, implying that Project Blue Beam
1609
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,920
isn't gonna be from aliens in the sky UFOs.
1610
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:14,840
It's gonna be from AI threats,
1611
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:16,680
which is exactly what you're seeing in the news cycle
1612
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,880
right now is the, oh my God, like AI is so dangerous,
1613
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,200
it's gonna kill all of us and, you know,
1614
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,000
we need the government to come put some regulations down,
1615
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,320
even though they're like, bro, just put the regulations on.
1616
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:28,520
You don't need the government to do that for you.
1617
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:30,600
Just do it if that's the right thing to do.
1618
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:33,000
But like that's what that's the plot here is,
1619
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,600
is this whole like, hey, isn't this so scary?
1620
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,600
Because there's gonna be something that happens
1621
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,800
and they're gonna, it's gonna be just like 2020 all over again,
1622
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:45,720
where we're all debating and discussing like,
1623
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,560
hey, is this virus real or germs real?
1624
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:49,800
Do we believe this guy?
1625
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:50,720
Does the thing work?
1626
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:52,920
Oh my God, well, you know, it's gonna be this thing.
1627
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,120
And meanwhile, they're just gonna do the thing
1628
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:56,600
they're gonna do, which is some kind of like,
1629
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,600
implementation of a surveillance state control system.
1630
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:00,440
Right?
1631
01:18:00,440 --> 01:18:01,280
Right.
1632
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,120
So that leads me to my third topic,
1633
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,200
which will come back to me after you finish up
1634
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:09,480
and that's kind of like the, what do we do with this information?
1635
01:18:09,480 --> 01:18:11,520
Which I hope I can shed sunlight.
1636
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:12,960
I don't know if it's gonna be good or bad,
1637
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,720
but I'm gonna kick it back to you for your third topic.
1638
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:21,720
Yeah, I'm gonna get into the idea of mnemetic magic.
1639
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:26,840
And where I got really the terminology from
1640
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:31,600
is a book that was written in 2004 called Mnemetic Magic,
1641
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,760
a manipulation of the root social matrix
1642
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:37,720
and the fabric of reality inspired our Kirk Packwood.
1643
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:40,440
And Packwood is now a whole lot known about him
1644
01:18:40,440 --> 01:18:41,800
and I dug around.
1645
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:45,520
And now you can't catch him on a documentary
1646
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:49,360
that came out in 2021 called You Can't Kill Meme.
1647
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:53,860
And it breaks down the origins of internet meme magic.
1648
01:18:53,860 --> 01:18:56,640
But what's interesting about his book is,
1649
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:01,640
this book came out prior to all of what we would now turn
1650
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:06,640
what we would now turn what meme is as far as being
1651
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:12,400
these pictures with captions that evolve
1652
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:18,080
into things that can sway societies into doing things.
1653
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,200
We saw this with Pepe the Frog
1654
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,800
and you went into great detail in that during our Trump episode.
1655
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:27,880
But the way he talks about mnemetic magic or meme,
1656
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:32,840
he talks about it more, it's closer to what Richard Dawkins
1657
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:36,440
talked about in his book, The Selfish Gene,
1658
01:19:36,440 --> 01:19:38,720
which came out in 1976.
1659
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:43,720
And he basically uses meme as a term for replicators.
1660
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:48,720
And it's the idea of how you can take cultural ideas,
1661
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:54,080
behaviors, music, art, and spread it.
1662
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:59,080
And then it evolves very much like a biological gene does.
1663
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:02,800
And then they start attributing it to a virus as well.
1664
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,200
And that makes sense, right?
1665
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:08,640
When a meme goes viral, it's like a virus that spreads
1666
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,800
and takes over everything that you see, right?
1667
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,120
You know, it's like the Hawk Toa girl, right?
1668
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,800
This thing happens and then it's everywhere
1669
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:21,320
to the point that she started a podcast
1670
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:24,640
and then obviously put out a meme coin
1671
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:25,920
and there was a lot going on with that.
1672
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:30,160
But all of these things, I think in some way,
1673
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,680
even if the people that are a part of it,
1674
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,760
like she was, know what's going on or not,
1675
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:39,760
they're there to control the consciousness of the people
1676
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,360
around them, either for distractions
1677
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,800
or to sway us to do certain things.
1678
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:46,560
So this is what they're talking about
1679
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,600
before what we understand what a meme is.
1680
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:54,600
This is what Dawkins and Packwood are talking about
1681
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,160
in this particular aspect.
1682
01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:02,160
Now what Packwood breaks down in this root social matrix,
1683
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:07,280
he talks about that the magician
1684
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:10,800
can manipulate his own consciousness through ritual,
1685
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:14,120
which we understand, but he talks about it more
1686
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,920
in a modernized way.
1687
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:20,640
So he says that you take a symbol
1688
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,200
and then it connects to the mind,
1689
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,480
which then connects to the culture,
1690
01:21:25,480 --> 01:21:29,960
then it creates a behavior and then it creates
1691
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,800
this material consequences from it.
1692
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,240
So let's just use Trump as an example.
1693
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,640
We have this Pepe the Frog meme that happens
1694
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:42,960
along with QAnon and which you and I both believe was a siop.
1695
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:46,240
It creates and pushes people towards this movement
1696
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:48,520
they get wrapped up in it
1697
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:52,600
because it started on 4chan and it exploded
1698
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:56,200
into the mainstream to where people were ready
1699
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:57,760
to put him in office.
1700
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:01,880
And we can track everybody, Peter Theill is part of that
1701
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:05,200
and all these other guys that are intertwined with this
1702
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:08,360
when it comes to 4chan, but that's essentially
1703
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,120
what this meme is.
1704
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:14,720
Now if we get into what Packwood's thoughts are on this
1705
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:16,800
'cause this is gonna tie right into body activity too
1706
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,000
'cause I found this really interesting
1707
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,520
when I was going through the book
1708
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:25,520
and here's a whole section which I feel like a lot of it
1709
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:30,520
was written allegorically as well as talking
1710
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:34,320
about the material world.
1711
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:39,320
By the way, in the book, he says that he doesn't know
1712
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:41,320
how he wrote it.
1713
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,480
He said that something took over him
1714
01:22:44,480 --> 01:22:46,040
and wrote it through him.
1715
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:49,400
So I found that interesting as well.
1716
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,160
And he breaks it down very early in the book
1717
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:56,400
because he talks about that memetic magic
1718
01:22:56,400 --> 01:23:01,400
is the modern remanifestation of the archaic current
1719
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,560
of shamanism.
1720
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:08,160
So he starts talking about how that Western civilization
1721
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,440
looks at shamanism as an archaic thing.
1722
01:23:10,440 --> 01:23:15,000
However, he said that shamanism evolves
1723
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,280
with the time period that it's in.
1724
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:21,040
So these social cultural matrices
1725
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,100
that were trapped in periodically
1726
01:23:23,100 --> 01:23:24,520
and he says they evolve, right?
1727
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:28,400
So 2,000 years ago, the magician operated
1728
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,120
vastly different than the magician operates.
1729
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:36,120
Now he said the true magician receives their power
1730
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,800
or their knowledge from the living entity,
1731
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:42,600
from the spirit realm.
1732
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:47,600
And these intermediaries give us the true reality
1733
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,960
and give us access to the spiritual planes.
1734
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:55,640
And he says that shaman's are not taught
1735
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,680
to be shaman's by their shaman's.
1736
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,000
They're taught by the spirits.
1737
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:01,200
And he said that the spirits,
1738
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,080
and this is just supernostic,
1739
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:06,240
they do not reside in the matrix,
1740
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:08,360
they reside in the subconscious mind.
1741
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:12,000
So that's how they choose us is what he breaks down
1742
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,240
in this book and that you becoming a shaman
1743
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:19,560
is not by your choice that they choose you.
1744
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:23,720
Which also leads into what we've heard
1745
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:25,000
from many occultists,
1746
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,520
Crowley was a big proponent of this
1747
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:31,600
where that the true initiate,
1748
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:32,680
and I've told you this before,
1749
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,040
the true initiate initiates himself.
1750
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:39,240
You becoming an initiate isn't going to
1751
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,000
your local Freemasonic lodge
1752
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:46,000
or becoming a rose accrucian at the AMRC, none of that.
1753
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,960
You may get access to information,
1754
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:52,520
but you have to with your spirit guide
1755
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,280
or whatever Holy Guardian angel
1756
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:56,800
that you access this information
1757
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,080
and then you evolve yourself.
1758
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,320
And this is what he's saying in this book.
1759
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:04,800
It's a really fine line from,
1760
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:06,480
and always laugh about this, right?
1761
01:25:06,480 --> 01:25:08,920
And you know this, what do they always say, Isaac,
1762
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:12,240
that their main goal is to kill the ego, right?
1763
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,360
Kill the ego so they can ascend.
1764
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,560
Well, my question is why is there so much ego around
1765
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:19,080
everything they do?
1766
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,560
It's like I'm better than you
1767
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:23,960
because I have access to this information,
1768
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:25,880
these entities give me,
1769
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:29,000
I hear this from armchair occultists, right?
1770
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,080
They think they know more than everybody else.
1771
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:33,720
Where it's like I know more than you
1772
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,840
and you don't know what you're talking about
1773
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,480
and now I am this embodiment,
1774
01:25:40,480 --> 01:25:42,240
but I'm killing the ego though.
1775
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:43,080
I'm killing it.
1776
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:43,920
- Yeah.
1777
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,000
- I've got this a lot from this book
1778
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,440
where it seemed like he was saying,
1779
01:25:48,440 --> 01:25:49,920
he was saying a lot of really good stuff
1780
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:54,680
that I would agree with as far as being controlled
1781
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:59,680
by government entities or these people
1782
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:03,680
who wanna subjugate us, totally agree with that.
1783
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,760
But then it becomes this, he even says it at one point
1784
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:10,000
in the book, he says there's a fine line
1785
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,400
between the 1% of elites.
1786
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:17,400
He said between control and freedom.
1787
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:20,080
And I found that really interesting
1788
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:23,800
in the sense of people that are awake, this 1%,
1789
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:27,720
he believes that 99% of people are trapped in this matrix.
1790
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,600
Then only 1% were actually free,
1791
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:35,000
but he said that most of them lean towards control
1792
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,520
because of the fact they're fed up with society.
1793
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:42,520
And he said it takes a true master of magic
1794
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:43,840
to be able to get outside of that.
1795
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,680
And I think that would even lend into white lives
1796
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:50,880
versus black lives stuff to this idea
1797
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:54,880
of these good magicians as Crowley believed himself to be.
1798
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,480
And then he got Samuel Del Mather
1799
01:26:57,480 --> 01:26:59,640
assuming he's a part of this black lodge.
1800
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,560
Very much this, which I believe it's all bad, right?
1801
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:05,520
So it's like you've got these two warring factions,
1802
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:08,160
but he's saying that's happening in this 1%.
1803
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:11,160
Now to get to this control bots,
1804
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:12,920
which I thought was really interesting,
1805
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:14,560
this is where he started talking about
1806
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:19,320
that this 99% is a part of these control bots.
1807
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:24,320
And the dominators are the ones in the 1%
1808
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:28,560
that are using the control bots to control us.
1809
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,280
Now he talks about, and I think all of this
1810
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:33,160
is very applicable to actual bots
1811
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,800
because we've got quote unquote,
1812
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:39,360
technocratic magicians who are sending out bots
1813
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,840
to disrupt us, to sway our attention.
1814
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:43,120
He talks about this.
1815
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:46,480
He says that these people that are control bots
1816
01:27:46,480 --> 01:27:49,240
are used to enforce seeking in fact.
1817
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,920
And he says that the control bots don't believe
1818
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:53,920
that they are control.
1819
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:58,080
And he said their goal is to spot out people
1820
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:01,160
who are not controlled
1821
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:04,160
and they use whatever tactics necessary
1822
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:06,560
within the framework of the program
1823
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,080
to change their minds.
1824
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:12,400
And he said the best form is to try to learn them
1825
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,200
in with kindness, love.
1826
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,120
You see a lot of that online too,
1827
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:19,040
where it becomes this buttering up.
1828
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:22,400
It's not necessarily we're trying to throw
1829
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,160
this divisiveness at you.
1830
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,440
Oh, let's lure you in with other tactics.
1831
01:28:26,440 --> 01:28:30,440
And you see multiple tactics from these bots online.
1832
01:28:30,440 --> 01:28:34,960
And he says ultimately, and this is where I think
1833
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:36,320
the ego comes back in a little bit.
1834
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,280
This is where I kind of start laughing a little bit.
1835
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:42,680
But he said that the only way to completely avoid these bots
1836
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,360
is to avoid people to be a hermit.
1837
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,800
He said, but a true leader can't isolate himself
1838
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:50,520
from the people at all.
1839
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:56,320
And he goes on to say that the best way
1840
01:28:56,440 --> 01:28:59,360
to operate is to understand their tactics,
1841
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:03,120
but be able to maneuver outside of that
1842
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:04,520
and maybe wake some people up.
1843
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,000
Which I do agree with that aspect of it.
1844
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,440
But he clearly viewed himself as some
1845
01:29:09,440 --> 01:29:11,560
gnostic leader in all this.
1846
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:13,000
But I thought it was very fascinating.
1847
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:16,600
And the book is just amazing when you go through it.
1848
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:21,600
And it really tied into the idea of memes as well.
1849
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:23,640
And I bought a Pepe the Frog,
1850
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:25,600
but I encouraged people to go listen to Trump episode
1851
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:26,600
and get into all that.
1852
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:28,960
It's connections with the God Cat.
1853
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:32,680
You know, when we're looking at memes that took over
1854
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,080
the minds of people and changed things,
1855
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:36,480
I don't know if you remember the Ted Cruz
1856
01:29:36,480 --> 01:29:39,880
as a zodiac killer one in 2016 that was going around.
1857
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:43,320
And it was totally fake,
1858
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:47,560
but it blew up so much that it made people
1859
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:50,120
have a different perception of him
1860
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:53,240
and made people think he was unsettling on trustworthy.
1861
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:55,440
I'm not saying Ted Cruz is trustworthy at all.
1862
01:29:55,440 --> 01:29:58,240
What I'm saying is though, that the meme itself
1863
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:00,520
was able to sway people's opinions.
1864
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,640
And I'll just say there's one going around right now
1865
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,240
that I would consider to be part of Mamedic Magic,
1866
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:09,320
the whole Sydney Swimming Sports betting ad.
1867
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,400
For Novic, I think that whole thing
1868
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:15,520
is absolutely Mamedic Magic at its core.
1869
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:19,000
Because what it's done is divided people into camps.
1870
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,560
It's actually created a divisiveness
1871
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:24,960
where it shouldn't be where people are saying that,
1872
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:28,240
well, you don't like what Swiny did,
1873
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:31,360
but your vouching for Lindsey Clancy,
1874
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,960
I'm seeing that go around in memes now.
1875
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:37,720
And you've got man versus woman in this,
1876
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,880
left versus right, all over a sports ad.
1877
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:42,760
But that's why it was created.
1878
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:46,320
You don't think that that sports ad was created
1879
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:48,120
to cause a stir.
1880
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:49,120
Then you lost your mind.
1881
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:51,080
- Literally, I did the same thing with the jeans,
1882
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:52,640
with the Sydney Swinney jeans.
1883
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:54,920
You were, it's the same.
1884
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:55,920
They're doing it again.
1885
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:59,040
And I don't know how people don't see it.
1886
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:00,200
I saw the whole thing go down.
1887
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:01,440
I just shook my shoulders and I was like,
1888
01:31:01,440 --> 01:31:02,280
"Oh, whatever."
1889
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:03,280
You know what I mean?
1890
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:04,280
Because it means nothing to me.
1891
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:06,600
Because if you let it control you
1892
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:08,880
and you let it dictate your daily life,
1893
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:10,040
then you've already lost.
1894
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,680
And that's a lot of what the book's talking about.
1895
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:14,280
But the book's interesting, right?
1896
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:17,840
Because it was wrote in 2004 when guess what?
1897
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,040
Lifelog goes down Facebook starts
1898
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:24,520
and this entire movement pushes forward
1899
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:27,800
with how the internet's being used.
1900
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:32,120
This whole internet theory comes out of this time period
1901
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:36,600
and he's basically written the precursor to all of it.
1902
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:37,920
When you read through it, you're like,
1903
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:40,600
"Wow, this was ahead of its time."
1904
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:42,040
Or was it, you know?
1905
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:44,000
- Yeah, dude.
1906
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:44,840
- Yeah, man.
1907
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:47,880
And that's kind of where I was gonna go with my,
1908
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:50,880
my okay, what do we do with this information thing?
1909
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:51,720
So that's interesting.
1910
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:54,480
You found a book that 22 years ago had the solution.
1911
01:31:54,480 --> 01:31:55,960
In a way, right?
1912
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:56,800
- Right.
1913
01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:01,320
- Do you want me to take on my final spiel?
1914
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:05,760
Okay, so I wanted to start out with the quote
1915
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:06,880
from Marka Meezy, right?
1916
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:08,680
He says, "Give me a lever long enough
1917
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:10,800
and I can move the world," right?
1918
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:12,920
That's kind of what the internet is.
1919
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:16,800
They created this fulcrum and this lever
1920
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:19,920
that through the usage of bots and manipulation
1921
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:21,240
and understanding how the mind works
1922
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:22,520
through all their MK Ultra Studies,
1923
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:25,720
they know they can influence and cause changes
1924
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:26,560
in the real world.
1925
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:28,840
I mean, they're literally like stealing our loose
1926
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,440
and our resources and our energy and our money
1927
01:32:31,440 --> 01:32:35,120
by flooding us with Sydney Swini ads
1928
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,080
and making us argue about stuff and all this things, right?
1929
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:41,320
Now, I was able, I was trying to find,
1930
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:42,960
because I know you mentioned earlier
1931
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:46,240
there was a study from 2013 about how,
1932
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:48,400
what was it, like 60% of the traffic online
1933
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:51,320
is bot activity and I tried to get an updated number.
1934
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:53,560
There was a study last year called the Dead Internet Theory
1935
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,840
of Survey on Artificial Interactions
1936
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:57,640
in the future of social media,
1937
01:32:57,640 --> 01:32:58,800
but they said it was the same.
1938
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,520
They said it was 40 to 60% of online activity,
1939
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:02,840
which I find that hard to believe.
1940
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:06,080
I think, I mean, I'm not a scientist,
1941
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:08,680
but I got to think it's higher than that by now,
1942
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:12,840
but either way, go ahead.
1943
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:15,440
- I think it's exactly what I was saying earlier though,
1944
01:33:15,440 --> 01:33:17,400
that the bots have gotten so good
1945
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:22,400
that the detection to find the bots isn't up to speed.
1946
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:27,760
So the bot activities far more than that 50 to 60%.
1947
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:31,080
- That's a problem. - We can't detect them.
1948
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,720
- Yeah, and I think that that's what they're gonna do with,
1949
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:38,120
I think possibly digital ID is a solution for this.
1950
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:40,120
I'm not saying that I advocate for that.
1951
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:43,040
I don't even know if that's the solution I would want,
1952
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:45,280
but a digital ID would be a way to figure out
1953
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:46,760
who the bots are real quick.
1954
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:49,720
But the study was interesting because it found
1955
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:53,800
that social media is becoming less about the human connections
1956
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:56,400
that it used to have and more about corporate agendas,
1957
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:57,720
which I mean, duh, right?
1958
01:33:57,720 --> 01:33:58,560
We already know that.
1959
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:03,480
And the reason why is 'cause social media got monetized
1960
01:34:03,480 --> 01:34:08,400
for ad space now becomes part of that whole attention economy
1961
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:10,720
and trying to get people's engagement going,
1962
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:14,280
the engagement through an arrangement type of thing.
1963
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:18,440
And you see examples of this false consensus reality
1964
01:34:18,440 --> 01:34:22,960
where they're trying to convince us
1965
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:25,560
that things are popping when they aren't, you know?
1966
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:28,000
Like I was looking at the paramount.
1967
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:29,320
I have all the streamers, right?
1968
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:32,320
And the paramount app is by far my least favorite,
1969
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,280
the worst streaming app out of all of them.
1970
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:37,640
And I had to readownload it and it said that
1971
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:40,840
it got a 4.7 out of five stars on the Apple app store.
1972
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:42,440
And I was like, pull, rap.
1973
01:34:42,440 --> 01:34:46,680
Ain't no way, ain't no way this is a 4.7 app, you know?
1974
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,560
Like, but it's 'cause I think they have bought activity.
1975
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:54,560
Same with the Chinese ghost cities, right?
1976
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:58,640
It's in crypto, it's in crypto pump and dumps.
1977
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:03,480
It's this thing that they create speculation
1978
01:35:03,480 --> 01:35:06,920
and it's all about ultimately taking your money in the end, right?
1979
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:11,920
So with, especially with the click on the app,
1980
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:16,480
the click farms, the bot farms, the false streams,
1981
01:35:16,480 --> 01:35:19,720
all the examples of how they've actually been studying all this stuff
1982
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:24,200
from M.K. Ultra to the 2010 Facebook social contagion experiment.
1983
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:28,920
Like I said, we talked about earlier with QA NON and Trump.
1984
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:33,640
I think all of that is sort of the fine tuning of this machine
1985
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:38,480
of content farming and false consensus realities.
1986
01:35:38,480 --> 01:35:43,480
And I think when it comes to the solutions, I think that,
1987
01:35:43,480 --> 01:35:48,000
I don't know if unplugging from the internet is the answer for me
1988
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:49,320
or many people.
1989
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:51,720
I mean, that's one way out is to just be like,
1990
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:53,720
you know what, I'm not gonna be online anymore.
1991
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:56,440
I don't know how feasible or realistic that is,
1992
01:35:56,440 --> 01:35:59,760
but I know I'm not strong enough for that solution.
1993
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:04,360
So my thoughts are basically echoing what you talked about
1994
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:07,720
are you have to wake up to the illusion of this, right?
1995
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:12,720
The, I've got, man, there's some granola mystic priest guy
1996
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:14,800
who wrote the four agreements.
1997
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:18,040
Miguel Ruiz, he talked about the Maya, right?
1998
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:21,040
The Buddhist concept of the illusory nature of the world.
1999
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:23,400
And as long, I think if you just wake up to the idea
2000
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:27,800
that the internet is like the ultra-illusory world
2001
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:31,800
that these occultists want to pretend
2002
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:34,720
that our actual world is the illusion world.
2003
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:36,520
Well, no, the internet world is the illusion world.
2004
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:40,360
I think if you understand that, that disarms most of it,
2005
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:42,880
the knowledge of knowing that most of this is bot activity,
2006
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:47,560
which, for example, I don't, I try not to get dragged
2007
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:51,280
into the comment section of my own content sometimes,
2008
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:52,560
people talk crap.
2009
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,720
And like sometimes I'll take the bait and go for it,
2010
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:57,640
but most of the times now I'll sit back and I'll be like,
2011
01:36:57,640 --> 01:36:59,160
okay, is this a real person?
2012
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:00,320
Like it's probably a bot.
2013
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:04,480
It's probably some Peter, Peter teal bot to anger me
2014
01:37:04,480 --> 01:37:06,800
'cause I'm talking about Peter teal or whatever, right?
2015
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:08,600
And it just disarms it and I'm like, what do I care?
2016
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:10,360
I don't care what they say.
2017
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:13,720
Some other ideas presented are I think
2018
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:17,680
on the dark forest theory where people are gonna retreat
2019
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:19,920
to small corners of the internet.
2020
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:25,120
It's also called cozy web where basically people retreat
2021
01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:29,120
to they get off social media and they more stick to
2022
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:33,400
discord chat rooms or like Patreon, right?
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01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:36,920
If you have a Patreon, you can just stick to the Patreon chat
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because you know those are all like real people,
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generally speaking.
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So I think there's ways around this.
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I'm not gonna do more it and say that all of the internet
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is bad and no one on there is real.
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'Cause for me personally, I can't live up to that thing
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of being like, well, I'm just not gonna go on the internet.
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So I think there's options around here.
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I don't think we have to throw the baby out
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with the bath water is what I'm saying.
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- No, I totally agree with you too.
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And I'll tell you one thing that helped me out a whole lot
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is really coming to a place where I'm gonna create
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and I feel like I'm doing what I'm supposed to do
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that God's set out for me to do and at that point,
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I just, whatever, man, like if people don't like
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what you have to say online, who cares?
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Because listen, nobody's gonna agree
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with us 100% at the time.
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It's just impossible.
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And if we are coming from certain angles
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and somebody else's worldviews from a different angle,
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obviously we're not gonna be on the same wavelength,
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you're gonna have to expect that.
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And if you're out in a public space like YouTube,
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whatever, you've got growing platforms, you know,
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you're going to get not only the people that don't like
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what you have to say, but then you're gonna get a lot
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of bot activity too that's gonna present itself as,
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not liking what you have to say too.
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So that's the other thing you have to think about.
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And here's a good right here, Isaac.
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Next time you see something you don't like,
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you just say, that's a bot.
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And then it's move on, like you could just call
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everything a bot, even if it's not,
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there it is in your own.
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- And you're gonna be right, probably 80% of the time.
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So, yeah, exactly.
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- And that's the thing, man, it's,
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I've really gotten good over the past few years at just,
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it's like water after ducks back, it's whatever.
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You know, if people don't like what you have to say,
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it's cool.
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I think from a researcher's point of view though,
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you know, there is a certain pride that we have in research,
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right?
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So somebody's like, dig deeper.
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You know, there's a party that's like,
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you know what I mean?
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Like, you know what you're just like,
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man, I just spit hours doing this.
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- Yeah, man, I understand that.
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- I got pulled into that too, man.
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- Yeah, and that's, I think that's the thing,
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but also there's bots out there that are hoping that
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because you get the engagement, your emotions got involved,
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and now it's causing something that can also essentially
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pull other people into this little web of deceit
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that's going on too.
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So, I started thinking about that a long time ago,
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and I'm like, you know, I think it's the best way
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to move forward, and I think that's how we can all move forward.
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And I agree with you, I don't think you got to throw
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the baby out with the bath water,
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but I do think that we need to be aware of what we're using,
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how we're using it, and for what reasons,
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because if we're constantly giving them more and more and more,
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and they're taking and taking and taking,
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giving us nothing back, we really will be like,
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Klaus Schwab used to say, you know,
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oh, nothing and be happy.
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- Yeah, hey man, brother, I feel you, dude.
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- Yeah, man, this was a great episode.
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I was glad you brought up the dead internet theory,
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'cause I had seen it really resurface this year,
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and I'd done some work on it several years ago,
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but I definitely dug through some new stuff for this one,
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and I had a blast doing it.
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Before we get out of here, let everybody know
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where to get you, get to your stuff.
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- Yeah, dude, yeah, I agree.
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I'm always fascinated by technology and the internet and AI,
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and how this fits into this ancient ideas of the occult.
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So another great topic.
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So if you go to my link tree, allmylinks.com/isacwisac.
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Two ways for double-awesome.
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So it's Isaac W.
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Allmylinks.com/isacwisac.
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You can find links to all my stuff.
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I just finished, depending on when you hear this episode,
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I just finished my Twin Peaks book.
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It's called She's Filled With Secrets.
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I don't know if it's gonna be published exactly when.
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I still gotta like tweak out the cover,
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but anyways, my Twin Peaks book is done
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if for people that are interested in that.
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I'll have that up, it'll be my tenth book.
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I'm all over Amazon Audible,
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and of course my podcast is called Symbolism and Pop Culture.
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Go ahead, Joel.
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And for me, you can catch free of the rabbits pretty much anywhere.
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Just type in free of the rabbits.
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It'll pop up, Spotify, Apple.
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You can find me on YouTube.
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If you wanna see the video,
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because I have a lot of visuals that come up,
2131
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and I'll have a lot of visuals for this episode too,
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as we're going through some of these things.
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And if you wanna catch anything else I do, music-wise,
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or films that I do, go to link tree/all-timeness media,
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you can find me there.
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And man, this was a great episode.
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I can't wait to get to the next one.
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- Yeah, brother.
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I can't wait for the next one.
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I got my shirt.
2141
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- You never plug your shirts, bro.
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This shirt's awesome.
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It's one of my favorite shirts.
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- Yeah, I think I'm gonna plug.
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- We're gonna be plugging it in an ad
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that I'm gonna be making pretty soon.
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So I'm definitely gonna be in the--
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- Okay, all right, all right.
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(laughs)
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Yeah, cheers, buddy.
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Appreciate it.
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- All right, guys, see y'all later.
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(gunfire)
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- All right, what do you think?
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If you like the show, share it with a friend,
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leave a five-store-view, whatever.
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You know the things.
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Do the things that your heart draws you to, all right?
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Or if you're like, bro, I'm busy, I'm doing that.
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Go ahead, I'm okay, it's fine.
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Appreciate you.
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Appreciate you for listening.
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Thank you for listening to the show.
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Again, a recap.
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Go follow Joel Thomas, Free the Rabbit's podcast.
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01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:01,600
@FreeTheRabbitsOnYouTube.
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And look for my new book.
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She's filled with secrets.
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01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:07,400
The Twin Peaks, unauthorized guide
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01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:09,160
to the occult symbolism in Twin Peaks.
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01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:10,480
It's the biggest book I've ever written.
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Almost like twice as long as the dark path.
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And I should be dropping a pre-order link here.
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So you know my socials and my email list.
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If you're like, hey, what's the email list?
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Go to loonnowdewatcher.com.
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Up top, you'll see a thing that says free book.
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On the menu, click that, and then put your name in the email.
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And I'll send you my first book for free,
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a grand unified conspiracy theory,
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which proved itself to be 14 years ahead of its time,
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by the way, you know?
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'Cause I think I'm on the pulse of this thing.
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And then you'll see the link.
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I'll be blasting it everywhere.
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So look for the new Twin Peaks book everywhere.
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You get fine books, meaning Amazon, okay?
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All right, thanks for your support.
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'Til next time, stay positive.
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(upbeat music)
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(upbeat music)
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(upbeat music)
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(dramatic music)
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