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You're listening to Everything Out There with your host, Steve Stockton. Hello, friends. Hello, hello.
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Once again, Steve Stockton here with you. Everything Out There
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on the Clyde Lewis Ground Zero Radio Network. Thank you
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for joining us and joining us tonight on the phone.
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author Lynn Monet, international bestselling author and paranormalist. Come on in, Lynn.
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How are you doing?
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Hi, Steve. Thank you so much for inviting me. This
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is such an honor.
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Yeah, I know that you and Cisco Murdoch do a
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lot together. She's been on this show more times than anyone,
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I believe. And you come with her highest recommendation. And
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I've seen you on her show, and we've been on
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her show together on YouTube. So it's great to have
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you here.
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Thank you so much. And I absolutely love Cisco. She's
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an amazing lady. That is for sure. She's one of
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my sisters from another mother.
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Yeah, the same. I've called her my sister from another mister.
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She's good folks, and we've been friends for a long,
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long time. And she and I wrote a book together, too.
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Yes, I know. Yes.
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Now, for people listening in that may not know of you,
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tell us about your books and where else we can
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find you, and then we'll get started.
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Okay.
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I currently have a book series called Omnipresent. which is
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going to end up being a five book series. The
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first two books are out. The third one is coming
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out very, very shortly as soon as I can find
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an editor. So anyway, the omnipresent books were based on
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a house that I purchased that was so haunted that
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I was never able to move in. That is the
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first book. And with that, all of the things that
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have occurred afterwards with different things, I've got omnipresent, what
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happened next, which talks about what did happen next as
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well as I go into mental illness and attachments and
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schizophrenia and things like that and talk about that and
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how it's related to the spiritual world. Then the next
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book is 111, Omnipresent 111, Becca Dawn Drive, which is
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another story about a haunted townhouse that I got stuck
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moving into and had to help with people because there
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was a ghost, male ghost that I have a picture of,
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I'll be happy to share. that was going from townhouse
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to townhouse, pulling down women's underwear and crawling in bed
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with them in the middle of the night. I also
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have the fourth book that I'm in the process of writing.
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It's called Omnipresent Gnome, Place Like Home. And it's a
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story about, and all of these are true stories, by
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the way. It's a story about, I just recently inherited
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my sister's house. She passed away in June and found
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that there was a resident elemental, a grumpy one, on
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the property, and it was my first experience with that.
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So it's a story about that, as well as how
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to protect yourself from things and how to prepare yourself
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if you do have attachments to have them removed, that
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there are certain things that you need to do. In
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addition to that, I have Colors of Heaven. As there
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is a dark side to the paranormal, there's also a
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white side to paranormal. Paranormal is kind of a blanketed term.
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But this is on the white side, and it has
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to do with death, dying, and afterlife. I've been a
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nurse for 40 years. 17 of that has been in
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palliative and end-of-life care. I'm also a death doula, so
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I help people cross over and help the family, support
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the family with that. It's kind of like a hospice thing,
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but it's kind of a little bit more than that
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because it also deals with the spiritual part of it.
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And so I've written that book hoping to take the
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stigma of death and dying away and make it easier
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for people that have maybe lost somebody or who have
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been diagnosed with a terminal illness or something like that.
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And it talks about some very beautiful things that have
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to do with death, because really, we don't start living
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until we leave this plane. And people, we don't die,
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we just shed our skin and go. And so in
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addition to that, a couple of friends of mine, I
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was looking for a book for my daughter, I have
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a 15 year old daughter. And about life. And I
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was trying to find one and was working with some
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therapists trying to find we couldn't find one. So they
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asked me to write it, they knew I was an author,
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they asked me to write it. So they kind of
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guided me through it. And it's called the gap. What
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else your adolescent and teen needs to know. And it
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has to do with subjects like what to do if
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a condom breaks. And it's not that I'm encouraging your
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child to have sex. But if your child is having sex,
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they need to know what to do if a condom breaks,
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and hopefully they are using one and how to use
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one properly. And it also goes into things like life skills,
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how to clean a refrigerator, not to wear stinky sneakers
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out on your first date because no matter how handsome
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or pretty you are, stinky sneakers are not attractive, especially
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in a car with windows up. So it goes into
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some life skills that way as well. And that's what
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I've got going on right now. Also, you may have
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mentioned you wanted me to let people know how to
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get in touch with me. I have a website called www.LynneMonet, M-O-N-E-T, likethepainter.com.
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That's lynnemonet.com. I can be reached through there. My books
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are also on Amazon. Some of my books are on Amazon.
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They can be gotten in Walmart, Barnes and Nobles. Some
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of them are only being sold off of my website,
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such as the remainder of the Omnipresent series, the What
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Happened Next, and all of the rest of them that
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will proceed after that. So that's how you can find me. Also,
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I'm on with Cisco Murdoch on her podcast, which is
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Journey Through the Gate, a paranormal podcast, the last Sunday
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of every month. So please, please watch her. She has
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an amazing show. She talks about a lot of subjects,
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and she's just a great all-around person. Also, on this show,
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be sure to give a thumbs up and subscribe if
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you haven't already, because it's also amazing. And that's what
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I'm doing right now.
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Wow, sounds like you're really busy all the time, and
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I can appreciate that. I'm kind of in the same
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boat there with that, but I'd rather have too much
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to do than not enough. I've always got something I
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can work on, and I love that. But now getting
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back to the books and things, and you mentioned something
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there that I think it was when you were talking.
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About The Gap. Oh, that was a different book.
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The one where you talk about the palliative care and
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the people that are passing on and stuff and being
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a doula for that. um, it reminded me, my brother
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was an evangelical minister. I remember one day he was
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preaching a sermon about death and passing on. And he
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walked out from behind the pulpit, took his suit coat
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off and just held it out beside him and say there. Now,
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did that hurt my coat? When I took it off,
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he said, death is the same thing. He said, this
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isn't us. This is just an earth suit. It's where
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our spirit lives while we're here. And when we shed
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that earth suit, we move on to something bigger and better.
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And that's always stuck with me. And, uh, Thanks for
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jogging that memory there.
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I'm sorry. Those are very wise words, Steve, and he
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is absolutely correct. You know, this Earth planet is not
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easy for any of us. It's actually a place that
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we're learning. And the thing is, is a lot of
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us right now, too. such as yourself, you know, there
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are incarnates and reincarnates. We have incarnated. The difference being
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is that reincarnates have to come back for certain reasons
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and incarnates volunteer to come back. And thinking of the
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times that we're going through right now, I don't know
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what made us want to volunteer to be here for
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this timeframe, but we are, and we are light bearers
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and light anchors. And I believe that there's a time
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that's going to be coming very soon that we will
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know exactly what our path is and to step up
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to the plate. But yeah, I just kind of lost
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my train of thought of where I was going with that,
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but I wanted to mention it too.
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Yeah, that happens. I do that all the time, especially
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getting older. I turned 60 last year, so I've been
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doing this for a while, but there's always room for
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improvement and always going to make mistakes and flubs and
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slip ups and things. And that train of thought can
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be easily derailed sometimes. But let's start at the very,
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very beginning. And if you're like me and a lot
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of people I talk to, Cisco's the same way. And
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I can't say enough good things about Cisco. She's a great,
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great friend and has been for years. The paranormal, your
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own experiences, things you've become an experience. It seems like
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for those of us that are empaths or whatever you
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want to call it, it begins usually around three or
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four years of age. Did you have a similar experience
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with that? Did you experience things at a young age?
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And that's what started you on this path?
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I did. As a matter of fact, we lived three
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short blocks behind a hospital. And the hospital was connected
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with what they called at the time, and I was
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also just had a 60th birthday, by the way. Back
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then they were called nursing homes. Now they're called skilled facilities.
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And on the opposite side of the hospital, there were
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actually Indian mounds in the forest. And so it was
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commonplace for my siblings and I to see dead people
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walking through our house in patient gowns. And even an
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occasional Indian crossing through. I mean, for us, it was like, oh,
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there's a toaster, there's a door, there's a dead person.
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So we were accustomed to seeing them. It wasn't something scary.
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When I was five years old and my brother was seven,
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something very profound happened that I will never forget. We
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were in my parents' master bedroom. I, of course, being five,
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was in my mother's jewelry box decorating myself. And my
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brother was sitting on the floor playing with his car.
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And I turned to show my brother how fancy I
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had made myself. And he was literally staring at the
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corner of the room, fixated on it. So I looked
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to see what he was looking at. And there was
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this ectoplasmic portal forming, like a misting portal. forming in
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the corner of the room and in stepped my brother's
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best friend, John, and John's mother, father, and brother. And
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they were just standing in the midst, smiling at us.
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And of course, my brother gets up and he runs
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out of the room to find my mom in one direction.
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I go in the opposite direction and he finds her first.
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And I hear him saying to my mom, mom, mom,
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John and his family's here. And my mom's like, well,
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I didn't even hear anybody knock. She says, and they're
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in your bedroom. And he's like, my mom's like, well,
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who let them in my bedroom? So of course she's
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rushing to usher these people out of her bedroom. And
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when they got into the room, nothing was there. And
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my brother got in trouble for it. And of course
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I kept my mouth shut because I didn't want to
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get in trouble too. And he did get even with
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me for that later on. But anyway, the very next
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day in America, we have a spring break holiday with
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our schools. And it was the very first day after
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spring break. And my Brother was on the bus going
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to school and normally he sat with John and John
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wasn't there that day. And then he got to the
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classroom of which he also had a side-by-side desk. They
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actually had tables with chairs that pulled up to them
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and he shared one with John. And again, John was
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not there. And when the teacher, after the Pledge of Allegiance,
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the teacher stood up and announced that John and his
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entire family, John would not be returning to class because
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he and his entire family perished in an auto accident
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the day before coming back from their vacation on spring break.
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And it happened that day, that day that we saw
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the misting in the corner of the room, and it
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was John coming to say goodbye to us. And of course,
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when I got home, because it was in the 1960s,
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that sort of thing wasn't supported. So my parents didn't
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exactly encourage me us seeing these things around the house.
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But that kind of hit home for my mom where
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she didn't say as much about it or discourage it
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as much because she realized that, you know, something must
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have really happened for us to be able to see that.
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go through a period of time when I was about
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10 years old. I was still seeing things and my mother,
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I was born and raised Presbyterian and my mother took
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a jaunt with the Jehovah's Witnesses. And of course, that's
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a book in itself, but we won't go there. And
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because of the way that they believe, she took me
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in front of the elders of the church. And the elders,
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as 10 years old, standing there just shaking in my shoes,
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were telling me that I was possessed, that what I
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was seeing was demons, even if it was something comforting
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like my great grandmother or somebody. And that there was
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basically something wrong with me and that I was going
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to die in Armageddon. And of course, it scared me
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so bad about my gifts. And my mother was in
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this religion for about six or seven years. So it
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scared me so badly that even though I was still
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seeing things, I would run out of the room just
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as fast as anybody else. Oh, there's a ghost. You know,
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that must be a demon. It's not a ghost. And
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I would run and I became... afraid of my gifts,
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and it wasn't until things moved forward and I was
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a mother of two at the time, I have had
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a third child since, that I ended up purchasing a
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home for my family as a single mother that was
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so haunted that I wasn't able to move in. And
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the thing about it was is that it connected me
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with people of like mind, which then made me not
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feel so much like a weirdo. I realized then that
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there were other people out there like me, And it
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helped me to engage with my gifts again and help
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them flourish. And that's kind of where everything started up again.
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Yeah, and that was always my experience too. Especially on
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my maternal grandmother, her and her family were out of
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the spiritualism movement from around the turn of the last century.
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And just the supernatural was their natural, you know, and
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my mom was.
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Raised in that. When she was a little girl, she
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was born in 1927.
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So in the late 20s, early 30s, they randomly had,
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regularly rather, had seances, table tippings, ouija board sessions. Her mother,
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my grandmother, told fortunes. She read tea leaves and coffee
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grounds and practiced phrenology, which, you know, they tell your
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future by the.
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Bumps on your head.
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She read red animal entrails to predict the next year's
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growing season.
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They were farmers.
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They had a dairy farm and they truck farmed with
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produce and tobacco and things like that. And they also
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raised their own cattle and pigs for slaughter. And every
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fall when they slaughtered hogs, she would pick one that
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was her hog. And then that one, after they slaughtered it,
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she would poke around inside it with a stick and
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then predict what kind of growing season. This will be
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a good year for tomatoes, don't plant too much corn
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this year, going to be a bumper crop of burly.
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Tobacco, whatever.
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And my uncles, she had a big family.
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It was my mom and nine boys.
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They swore that she was every bit as accurate as
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the old Farmer's Almanac, which back in those days and prior,
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farmers lived and.
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Died by that book. It was almost like the Bible.
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It usually hung on a nail in the kitchen, and
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they would take that down and look at it. during
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the meals and stuff but I just you know you
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grow up around it you don't think.
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About it and then.
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That was my experience too because just you know being
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raised around it like that you don't really think about
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it and then when I started school you know I'd
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already had experiences when I was three and four and
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five and beyond and I didn't realize that these things
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didn't happen to everybody I didn't realize how special and
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unusual that was And it can make you, you know,
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the butt of jokes and people think you're crazy and things.
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But then after writing some of my books, especially My
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Strange World, which is my own personal paranormal experiences, just
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a few of them, I've had people come to me
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and say, you know, thank you for doing this. It
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helps me to deal with things that I've experienced and
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lived through and saw and not feel crazy like I
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was made to feel crazy. So you know, a lot
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of the work that we do as paranormalists, I'm going
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to put myself in that group too. And the experiences
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we help other people to come with terms, which come
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to terms with what they've seen or heard or, and
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realize that, no, you're, you're not necessarily crazy. Now there
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are some people out there that, that have, you know,
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mental health problems and things, and I'm sure they hear
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and see things that other people don't, but I don't
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think that's the case in every single incident that I've
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heard about and read about. And, I know what I saw.
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I know what I felt or heard or whatever. And
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nobody's going to convince me otherwise. And otherwise, I don't
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think I'm mentally ill or anything.
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I'm not normal.
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But I don't want to be normal. I realized at
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a very young age when I started kindergarten that I
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didn't fit in.
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I'm not like the other kids. And I came to
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embrace that.
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And that's very freeing and very liberating when you can
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just be yourself. You talked about several different haunted houses
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that you've lived in. That's been my experience too. Every
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house that I've ever lived in had some activity. It
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was haunted to some degree. But I came to revelation,
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it's been a few years ago now, probably a decade
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or more, that it's not the houses, it's me that's haunted.
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This stuff follows me around. And Cisco likened that to
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like a candle in the darkness that the moths flock to.
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She said, they see you. They know that you can
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hear or see or sense them. whatever the case may be,
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and they come to tell you their stories. Do you
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agree with that statement?
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I totally agree with that, that we are haunted. And
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something else that I found out, too, is in addition
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to us being haunted, the thing that I found out
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is when I did purchase that haunted house, I learned
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that it wasn't so much about the house. It was
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about the ground that it was built on. So even
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a brand new house can be haunted if it's built
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in the wrong place, because you don't know what was
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there hundreds of years ago. You could be building your
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house on some precious burial ground or something like that.
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But once you do get involved with the paranormal, both
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light and dark, we are like beacons. And that's part
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of also the incarnation versus reincarnation. Our lights are very,
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very bright. And A lot of times there are souls
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for one thing that at the time of death, they
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can choose to cross over or not. And the ones
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that choose not to cross over are the ones that
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are wandering around haunting people's houses and following people like
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us around, but they are brought to us like a
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moth to a light. Just like Cisco said, I totally
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agree with that because they think that we're angels because
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our light is brighter than other people's. Um, and so they,
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they are attracted to us for that. And, um, You know,
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it's pretty bad when the demons know you by your
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first name. So, yeah, we are haunted, but it's not
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necessarily a bad thing. There are some good things about it, too.
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And when I say haunted, I don't mean like the
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dark part of it. There's a light part of it, too.
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So we help souls cross over because they approach us,
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and we can do a lot of good things with
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that as well.
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Yeah, and I'm the same way. I'll use the term haunting,
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but there's good hauntings, there's bad hauntings. And that's just
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kind of a catch-all phrase, but people know what you're
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talking about. And yeah, there are good and evil. And
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Cisco has a thing that she likes to say that's
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going to be a little racy here. But she says,
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you know, basically, if they're an asshole in life, they
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can be an asshole in the afterlife, too. And she said,
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I've came up against people like that, the spirits, where
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they were just miserable people when they're alive. And now
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that they're passed on, they're still miserable.
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Yep, yep, absolutely. I've come across that as well. And
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the thing is, as I had mentioned, there's freedom of
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choice when people come to pass. As a nurse in
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my profession, I've seen hundreds of people pass away. I've
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seen them cross over. People, everybody crosses over unless they
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choose not to, even people that commit suicide. So people
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that commit suicide do not go to hell. That's another
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thing too. But I've seen them cross over and I've
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seen a lot of them that are stuck here. And
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the important thing is, is that they do have that
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freedom of choice to do that. And when they linger,
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you know, they still, the thing about if they don't
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cross over versus if they cross over is when they
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don't cross over, the cause of death still shows. If
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they have mental illness, they still have it. If they
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have addiction problems, they still have it. And they keep
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all of their senses, which you keep all of your
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senses when you cross over as well. And I've had
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people kind of mention to me, well, they can't smell,
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you know, they don't have an olfactory nerve, but it's
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not about that. It's about memory recall. And so you'll
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see them lingering in bars around people drinking or lingering
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around people that are smoking cigarettes, just trying to get
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into that scent of it, even... Cisco wrote a book, too,
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talking about the jumpers that would try to, when she
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was working as a bartender, that would try to enter
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into people and how their demeanor would change. So these
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sorts of things do happen by these things that are lingering.
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So yes, absolutely, they keep their personality. And if they're nasty,
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they're nasty. One thing that I did experience is that
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when my sister passed away, She wanted to be cremated
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and she wanted to be taken to the ocean. And
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I found that when I went to Florida, I had
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her all wrapped up in a towel and in the
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box so that it wouldn't be obvious that I was
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carrying ashes down to this beach. I couldn't stand to
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carry the box close to me. Because I could feel
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the negativity of what was left behind, even though it
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was familiar to me because it was part of her,
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because we are all a bag of emotions and a
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bag of different issues. You literally do shed all of
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your bad stuff and leave it behind with the contents
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of your body when you do choose to cross over.
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And I was picking that up. And I mentioned this
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because a lot of people want to get ashes and
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put them in a pendant and wear it around their neck.
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And I really... don't recommend you wearing something that close
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to you. There are other ways that you can honor
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their death or if you miss them, after all, they
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can hear you talking just like we're talking. But the
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thing was, is I actually had to take the ashes,
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put them in a beach pail, cover it so that
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the ashes wouldn't blow. And I walked into the water
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waist deep and submerged it so that they wouldn't fly
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all over. And she went. But I found that interesting.
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I didn't realize... how much of the negativity, the negative thoughts,
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the illness, the sorrow, the hardship during life, and all
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of that is left in that contents. And it still
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is radiating that energy even after they've been cremated and
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they've passed. So I wanted to mention that because I,
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you know, a lot of people do, you know, they
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want to share the ashes around and they want to
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wear them close and it may not be a good thing.
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Yeah, I agree. I had a friend like that who
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had one of his army buddies that had gotten killed
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in battle with him.
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He didn't die, but his friend did.
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And he stored those in a shell casing and wore
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it around for a while. And then after that, he
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put it in the house where he was living. And
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they had all kinds of things happen there, not necessarily
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related to the person that had died, but all these
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other spirits and things coming through. And then after those
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remains were done away with, taken, and I don't know
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if they were interred or released or whatever.
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But after that, it settled down. So other things didn't
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like what was in there.
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And I think, you know, negative attracted other negative things.
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Absolutely.
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And this was a person who had died suddenly and violently.
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And there you go. There's that negativity.
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Yes, absolutely. And they are attracted to the negative. As
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a matter of fact, even when we're living, they're attracted
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to the negative. And it's so important for people to
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keep their, their thoughts, you know, thoughts are energy, verbalization
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is energy, and you think at first, and then you
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verbalize it. So it goes out into the universe twice.
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And you want to be really, really careful about what
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you put I am or I can't in front of
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00:25:20.670 --> 00:25:24.569
because you're sending that message out. And so it's very,
479
00:25:24.630 --> 00:25:27.730
very important for people to be responsible for their thoughts
480
00:25:27.819 --> 00:25:30.119
and what they're saying and to try to keep it
481
00:25:30.299 --> 00:25:34.720
on a upper level, more joyous, more laughter, because love
482
00:25:34.779 --> 00:25:38.109
and joy and laughter is repellent to the dark side.
483
00:25:38.750 --> 00:25:41.990
So if you don't want them around you, you need
484
00:25:42.009 --> 00:25:46.170
to keep your spirits up and definitely they won't come
485
00:25:46.210 --> 00:25:46.630
around you.
486
00:25:46.650 --> 00:25:51.000
Yeah, and Cisco talked about that, how in a place
487
00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:54.539
that's negative and feels all that heavy, dark, oppressive energy,
488
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:57.720
she would laugh or sing a song or tell jokes
489
00:25:57.799 --> 00:26:01.380
or just try to raise the vibration in that room,
490
00:26:01.420 --> 00:26:02.970
even if she was the only one there. And I
491
00:26:02.990 --> 00:26:05.740
believe that works. And what you were saying there, You know,
492
00:26:05.859 --> 00:26:09.599
that's biblical that you have what you confess. They have
493
00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:13.279
the power of life and death in the tongue. And
494
00:26:13.339 --> 00:26:15.900
if you confess bad things to yourself, that's what's going
495
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:19.460
to happen. You've already claimed it. Now, there are preachers
496
00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:23.039
that have those name it and claim it ministries. But again,
497
00:26:23.059 --> 00:26:27.539
I think you can attract negative to yourself even inadvertently. Like,
498
00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:30.789
you know, you get up and you stub your toe like, oh, great.
499
00:26:30.829 --> 00:26:32.509
You know, this is going to be one of those days.
500
00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:34.730
You've already pronounced it to the universe.
501
00:26:35.750 --> 00:26:39.190
Yep. That's absolutely, that is dead on. And that's a really,
502
00:26:39.259 --> 00:26:42.400
really good example of it, of how innocently somebody could
503
00:26:42.460 --> 00:26:45.920
stumble into that, or I never win the lotto, right? This, or,
504
00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:48.539
you know, I hate my job and everybody, you know,
505
00:26:48.579 --> 00:26:51.319
it just, you really, really need to choose your words
506
00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:54.380
carefully because the outcome could be very different for you
507
00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:58.319
in life. The mind is very, very powerful and everything counts,
508
00:26:58.779 --> 00:27:04.509
especially since the other side communicates through telepathy and And
509
00:27:04.529 --> 00:27:07.710
of course we communicate in words, but the thought is
510
00:27:07.769 --> 00:27:13.029
the telepathic part. And yeah, they hear you. So definitely
511
00:27:13.410 --> 00:27:15.910
choose what you want. I I'm right now. It's funny
512
00:27:15.970 --> 00:27:18.759
because I'm trying to manifest a new car. So I'm
513
00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:22.430
driving my little Toyota Corolla and I, My dream car
514
00:27:22.450 --> 00:27:25.390
is a Volvo. And so I'm sitting in my Toyota
515
00:27:25.430 --> 00:27:27.289
Corolla and I'm going down the road and I'm singing,
516
00:27:27.589 --> 00:27:30.589
I'm driving my new Volvo sedan now. I'm driving my
517
00:27:30.630 --> 00:27:34.009
new Volvo sedan. So, you know, trying to bring it
518
00:27:34.069 --> 00:27:37.130
to me with the universe, because actually a Volvo sedan
519
00:27:37.170 --> 00:27:41.170
is now cheaper than a Toyota. So, you know, that's
520
00:27:41.190 --> 00:27:44.750
what I'm doing. But it's important that you state it
521
00:27:44.869 --> 00:27:48.309
and to be detailed. You can't just say, oh, I
522
00:27:49.329 --> 00:27:54.900
want a house. OK, that's fine. But you but then
523
00:27:54.940 --> 00:27:56.900
that's just floating out there. You need to put a
524
00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:59.559
time frame on it. I want a house now. I
525
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:03.019
want a house tomorrow. And if you want something special
526
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:05.259
about it, like you want a two story house with
527
00:28:05.299 --> 00:28:08.599
a pool, you need to be specific. You can't just
528
00:28:08.660 --> 00:28:10.859
leave it float out there because you may get a house,
529
00:28:10.900 --> 00:28:13.980
but it may not be something that you would choose.
530
00:28:14.410 --> 00:28:17.009
So I think you have to be specific with those things.
531
00:28:17.650 --> 00:28:19.730
And I used to know a lady back in Tennessee
532
00:28:19.769 --> 00:28:22.690
that didn't have a car, didn't have any kind of transportation.
533
00:28:23.509 --> 00:28:27.190
And she went and bought like in the touristy areas
534
00:28:27.210 --> 00:28:30.549
where they do those custom airbrush license plate. She bought
535
00:28:30.630 --> 00:28:33.150
a license plate, just a license plate. And people are like,
536
00:28:33.170 --> 00:28:34.809
you know, you're silly. You don't even have a car
537
00:28:34.829 --> 00:28:36.990
to put it on. She's like, but I'm going to.
538
00:28:37.630 --> 00:28:38.119
And she did.
539
00:28:38.150 --> 00:28:40.099
She would get up every day. She would look at
540
00:28:40.130 --> 00:28:42.140
that license plate. She would hold it and look at it.
541
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:43.859
And she was very specific. I think it was a
542
00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:47.289
Chevy Camaro or something that she wanted. And she said,
543
00:28:47.309 --> 00:28:49.089
this is going to go on the front of my
544
00:28:49.150 --> 00:28:52.569
new Chevy Camaro. And sure enough, after a time, she
545
00:28:52.589 --> 00:28:54.450
got the car that she wanted and she put that
546
00:28:54.650 --> 00:28:55.390
on the front of it.
547
00:28:55.509 --> 00:28:56.390
And there you go.
548
00:28:56.990 --> 00:29:00.930
Yep. It is amazing. And, you know, this is something important, too.
549
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:04.220
that parents set the example of for their children, because
550
00:29:04.740 --> 00:29:07.839
if you really want your child to have a successful future,
551
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:10.940
you're doing the right things by feeding them well and
552
00:29:10.980 --> 00:29:13.029
making sure that they grow well and then giving them
553
00:29:13.069 --> 00:29:16.160
the opportunity for an education, for a trade or a
554
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:19.410
skill or a profession. You're doing all of the right things,
555
00:29:19.630 --> 00:29:23.930
but really what makes their future outcome is how they
556
00:29:24.049 --> 00:29:26.470
speak and how they think and how they put out
557
00:29:26.509 --> 00:29:28.829
their words. So it's important to set a good example.
558
00:29:29.299 --> 00:29:31.259
Yeah, my dad used to pound that into my head
559
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:34.140
when I was little. It would upset him greatly if
560
00:29:34.220 --> 00:29:37.529
I said I can't do anything. He'd say, well, you know,
561
00:29:37.569 --> 00:29:40.559
say I'll try. But in his respectability, to it, if
562
00:29:40.619 --> 00:29:42.779
I said I can't, he'd say I can't never did.
563
00:29:43.539 --> 00:29:46.779
So I learned, you know, early on, you don't say
564
00:29:46.819 --> 00:29:48.500
you can't if you don't know you can. You got
565
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:50.049
to try and see what you can do and at
566
00:29:50.089 --> 00:29:53.349
least do your best. And then I tried and I couldn't.
567
00:29:53.430 --> 00:29:56.230
But just saying I can't right off the bat, you've
568
00:29:56.250 --> 00:29:57.210
already admitted defeat.
569
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:00.309
That's true. That's very true. And you will have the
570
00:30:00.369 --> 00:30:03.650
defeat come back on you. So, yeah, it is important.
571
00:30:03.670 --> 00:30:07.809
You know, so many things in life, people were all
572
00:30:07.849 --> 00:30:10.789
kind of bobbing along, bobbing along in this, trying to
573
00:30:10.849 --> 00:30:13.769
figure it out. And you don't realize that that you
574
00:30:13.829 --> 00:30:17.490
can manifest your future instead of just bobbing along. And
575
00:30:17.529 --> 00:30:19.150
that that's an important part, too.
576
00:30:19.170 --> 00:30:19.750
Yeah.
577
00:30:19.890 --> 00:30:24.349
And I believe in it's not just in the Christian religion,
578
00:30:24.369 --> 00:30:27.609
but there's it's attended in a lot of religions throughout
579
00:30:27.650 --> 00:30:30.549
the world. You reap what you sow. You know, whatever
580
00:30:30.609 --> 00:30:32.730
you sow is going to come back to you. So,
581
00:30:32.819 --> 00:30:36.140
you know, if I sow a grain of corn, I'm
582
00:30:36.180 --> 00:30:37.799
not going to get a grain of corn back. I'm
583
00:30:37.819 --> 00:30:40.339
going to get a stalk. And on that stalk, there
584
00:30:40.380 --> 00:30:42.400
may be a dozen ears. And on each one of
585
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:45.299
those ears, there may be several hundred grains of corn.
586
00:30:45.740 --> 00:30:48.299
So you have to be cognizant of what you're sowing
587
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:50.549
because you're going to reap that crop whether you like
588
00:30:50.589 --> 00:30:50.980
it or not.
589
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:55.539
That's very, very true. And also as far as emotions go,
590
00:30:55.579 --> 00:30:58.880
emotions are even more powerful than thoughts because you feel
591
00:30:58.900 --> 00:31:01.980
the emotion sometimes before you even get the thought. So
592
00:31:02.019 --> 00:31:05.170
if you've got jealousy or harboring a little bit of
593
00:31:05.250 --> 00:31:07.890
something towards somebody, you need to stop because it will
594
00:31:07.930 --> 00:31:09.390
definitely come back at you as well.
595
00:31:10.410 --> 00:31:10.630
Yeah.
596
00:31:11.250 --> 00:31:14.309
And why set yourself up for failure when you can
597
00:31:14.349 --> 00:31:15.839
set yourself up for success?
598
00:31:16.299 --> 00:31:17.240
That's very true. Yeah.
599
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:21.839
Karma or whatever you want to call it, again, that's
600
00:31:21.940 --> 00:31:26.180
reaping and sowing, just whatever name you want to think
601
00:31:26.259 --> 00:31:31.740
of it by, just the way you treat people. I've
602
00:31:31.779 --> 00:31:34.000
heard it said that the way people treat you is
603
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:36.660
their karma and the way you react to it is yours.
604
00:31:36.809 --> 00:31:38.029
And I found that to be true.
605
00:31:38.619 --> 00:31:41.750
That's very, very true as well. And, you know, recently
606
00:31:41.829 --> 00:31:44.450
just we were talking, you kind of mentioned something about
607
00:31:44.569 --> 00:31:48.470
spirits being attracted to people and Recently, I've been working
608
00:31:48.509 --> 00:31:52.660
with Dr. Jerry Marvinsky on cases of people with schizophrenia
609
00:31:53.099 --> 00:31:57.339
and addiction. And because of my ability to have second sight,
610
00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:00.920
and this is written in my second book, if you'd
611
00:32:00.940 --> 00:32:02.880
like me to share the story about how I kind
612
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:08.349
of came up with this scenario that I validated through him,
613
00:32:08.430 --> 00:32:09.569
I'd be happy to share that.
614
00:32:12.549 --> 00:32:15.029
Oh, yes, please go right ahead. I mean, the Literally,
615
00:32:15.049 --> 00:32:17.210
the floor of the microphone is yours. You can talk
616
00:32:17.230 --> 00:32:18.980
about anything you want to talk about, Lynn.
617
00:32:19.500 --> 00:32:23.700
Okay, that sounds great. In my second book, Omnipresent, What
618
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:28.960
Happened Next, I do have a section on mental illness.
619
00:32:29.140 --> 00:32:32.509
And when I was older in life, I went back
620
00:32:32.660 --> 00:32:35.809
to college for the second time to further my degree
621
00:32:36.589 --> 00:32:39.230
in nursing. I also have a degree in biological science.
622
00:32:39.490 --> 00:32:42.349
And When I was in, we had gone to, I
623
00:32:42.730 --> 00:32:45.839
had had to take the class, my psychiatric class. And
624
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:47.559
of course we had to do a rotation through the
625
00:32:47.579 --> 00:32:52.740
psychiatric wards. And I had been placed with eight other students.
626
00:32:52.819 --> 00:32:55.700
We had gone to this one facility and we're all
627
00:32:55.779 --> 00:32:57.920
standing there in this area that we're in of this
628
00:32:57.980 --> 00:33:01.829
facility is the intake area. So there were patients that
629
00:33:01.849 --> 00:33:04.029
were just coming in. They were just trying to balance
630
00:33:04.049 --> 00:33:06.009
their meds and treat them and that sort of thing.
631
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:09.359
And there was this young lady that walked up to
632
00:33:09.420 --> 00:33:11.740
the group and she pointed at me and she said,
633
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:14.920
you can help me. I know you can. And of course,
634
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.069
in that moment, I'm like, oh, God, I hope she's
635
00:33:17.109 --> 00:33:19.970
not talking to me. You know, I'm looking over my
636
00:33:20.049 --> 00:33:22.990
shoulder and I'm like, you know, I'm thinking to myself,
637
00:33:23.009 --> 00:33:25.170
you know, I wanted to be Lynn the student nurse
638
00:33:25.210 --> 00:33:28.369
that day, not Lynn the weirdo. So the teacher had
639
00:33:28.430 --> 00:33:30.609
come along and ushered us out of the room and said,
640
00:33:30.650 --> 00:33:33.779
don't make eye contact, da, da, da, da, da. And
641
00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:36.640
we actually even had to sign papers in this facility
642
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:39.859
that we would if we got hit or bitten or
643
00:33:40.259 --> 00:33:43.829
hurt in some way that we wouldn't hold the facility responsible.
644
00:33:43.970 --> 00:33:47.509
And yeah, a friend of mine and I were placed
645
00:33:47.970 --> 00:33:54.119
back into this intake area. So my, my co, my
646
00:33:54.140 --> 00:33:57.099
co nurse, the student nurse and I, we were sitting there,
647
00:33:57.180 --> 00:33:59.640
they had picnic benches that were bolted to the floor
648
00:33:59.769 --> 00:34:02.069
and we were sitting at one of the picnic benches
649
00:34:02.569 --> 00:34:05.670
charting on our patients. They have segments of time where
650
00:34:05.710 --> 00:34:08.070
they have time with their social worker. They have time
651
00:34:08.389 --> 00:34:10.949
with their psychiatrists and then they go through group things
652
00:34:11.460 --> 00:34:15.639
where they get counseling and ours were in, in those groups.
653
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:18.690
So we were doing our charting and the young lady was,
654
00:34:19.969 --> 00:34:22.809
that initially saw us in the group walks over and
655
00:34:22.869 --> 00:34:26.170
she sits down with us and she starts talking about
656
00:34:26.230 --> 00:34:29.530
how she had been molested by her minister from age
657
00:34:29.530 --> 00:34:33.559
10 to 14 and then her mother had gotten remarried
658
00:34:33.699 --> 00:34:37.199
and then her stepfather started raping her and she ran
659
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:40.719
away at 16 and started devil worship and she realized
660
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:43.460
that that wasn't for her either but that she was
661
00:34:43.500 --> 00:34:46.789
hearing 25 different voices now and that was the reason
662
00:34:46.849 --> 00:34:50.420
for which she was in the unit And they were
663
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:55.139
diagnosing her with schizophrenia. One thing about mental illness is
664
00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:58.260
they really don't have scales to determine what you have.
665
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:00.909
There's not like blood work that you can do. More
666
00:35:00.929 --> 00:35:03.389
of it is just a checklist to check off what
667
00:35:03.429 --> 00:35:05.289
symptoms you have. And if you have more of one
668
00:35:05.309 --> 00:35:09.510
than the other, excuse me, then they diagnose you. And
669
00:35:09.550 --> 00:35:11.409
they like to put you on lots of medication that
670
00:35:11.429 --> 00:35:15.360
makes the stockholders happy. And sometimes the medication does worse
671
00:35:15.389 --> 00:35:19.400
things for you than good. So anyway, with that being said,
672
00:35:19.460 --> 00:35:21.320
I'm sitting next to her. She's talking about this and
673
00:35:21.340 --> 00:35:25.380
I'm looking at this woman and she is covered in
674
00:35:25.420 --> 00:35:28.639
claw marks coming out of her nose, coming out of
675
00:35:28.699 --> 00:35:31.769
her ear. She had them angled. What she was wearing
676
00:35:31.789 --> 00:35:34.710
was a pair of shorts and she had this tank
677
00:35:34.750 --> 00:35:37.570
type shirt on with little thin spaghetti straps. So her
678
00:35:37.630 --> 00:35:40.829
midriff was showing and part of her back was showing.
679
00:35:41.429 --> 00:35:45.909
And I'm saying claw marks because in my first book, Omnipresent,
680
00:35:46.250 --> 00:35:48.710
That house that I owned, a friend of mine was
681
00:35:48.789 --> 00:35:50.710
clawed to the point of bleeding on her back and
682
00:35:50.789 --> 00:35:53.050
stomach while we stood together in the kitchen of that
683
00:35:53.090 --> 00:35:57.500
house by a demon. So I'm recognizing them. They look
684
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.880
like cat scratches. And I'm looking at this woman and
685
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:04.199
some of the angles of these scratches, especially the ones
686
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:07.619
on her back, there is no way that she could
687
00:36:07.659 --> 00:36:10.469
have done that to herself unless she was some kind
688
00:36:10.489 --> 00:36:14.050
of a contortionist. And of course, the facility is telling
689
00:36:14.090 --> 00:36:17.219
her that she's self-administering these claw marks. And she was
690
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:20.079
even talking about, the patient was even talking about how
691
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:24.320
one of the voices had a very, very long nail
692
00:36:24.340 --> 00:36:26.679
that was scratching her on the inside of her female parts.
693
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:31.449
So she was then called away for her appointment with
694
00:36:31.489 --> 00:36:35.190
her social worker. And as she got up to walk away,
695
00:36:35.650 --> 00:36:37.530
she got about 10 feet away from me. And I'm
696
00:36:37.550 --> 00:36:40.849
looking at her and she has these attachments on her back.
697
00:36:41.699 --> 00:36:44.099
that literally looked like they were about the size of
698
00:36:44.139 --> 00:36:48.539
potatoes and misshapen like that. Some of them were inverted
699
00:36:48.579 --> 00:36:50.159
with the eyes on the bottom and the mouth on
700
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:52.780
the top or sideways, and they were all clustered together
701
00:36:52.820 --> 00:36:56.860
like grapes. On both sides of her back, they would
702
00:36:56.900 --> 00:37:00.400
have probably fit in a standard size pillowcase. That's how
703
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:04.199
much there was on her. And they seemed to be
704
00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:10.610
attached at her shoulders with these brownish tan type horn-looking
705
00:37:10.710 --> 00:37:14.170
things that were twisted that inserted at the top of
706
00:37:14.210 --> 00:37:17.070
her shoulders and then kind of went underneath her armpit.
707
00:37:18.010 --> 00:37:19.969
And I'm looking at her and I'm like, oh my God,
708
00:37:20.269 --> 00:37:23.699
you know, this woman really is hearing voices. She's got
709
00:37:23.739 --> 00:37:27.619
attachments on her back and I can see them. So
710
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:32.059
after about an hour or so, the lady returned and
711
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:33.940
I went to her room and I knocked on her
712
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:36.320
doorframe and I said to her, you know, she invited
713
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:38.530
me and I said to her, I said, look, what
714
00:37:38.570 --> 00:37:41.769
I'm about to tell you may sound crazy, but if
715
00:37:41.809 --> 00:37:45.230
you mention this, they're going to think you're crazier and
716
00:37:45.250 --> 00:37:47.230
they're going to keep you in here longer. And I
717
00:37:47.289 --> 00:37:48.969
want you to get out so that you can get help.
718
00:37:49.150 --> 00:37:52.489
I believe that you are hearing the 25 different voices
719
00:37:52.530 --> 00:37:55.199
because you have attachments on your back. And when you
720
00:37:55.260 --> 00:37:58.860
get out of here, excuse me, we've got construction across
721
00:37:58.900 --> 00:38:00.800
the street and they're blowing dust over here. It's making
722
00:38:00.820 --> 00:38:03.519
my throat tickle a little, so I'm sorry. So I
723
00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:08.090
mentioned to her that, um, you know, that this was happening.
724
00:38:08.219 --> 00:38:10.179
And she looked at me and her face kind of
725
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:13.639
got disgruntled and she turned almost in a huff because
726
00:38:14.059 --> 00:38:17.059
she was being influenced by the attachments that she had
727
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:20.219
on her who didn't want her talking to me, of course.
728
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:24.110
And when she turns, I normally would not have done
729
00:38:24.150 --> 00:38:26.389
this because there is a preparation that you have to
730
00:38:26.449 --> 00:38:29.289
do before removing attachments off of people in order to
731
00:38:29.349 --> 00:38:32.010
protect yourself so that they don't come home with you.
732
00:38:32.909 --> 00:38:35.829
And at the time I wasn't prepared, but something just
733
00:38:35.929 --> 00:38:38.570
overcame me. And I took my fingers and I kind
734
00:38:38.630 --> 00:38:41.449
of went up underneath those hook things on her shoulders
735
00:38:41.530 --> 00:38:45.250
and I pulled them off. And they immediately started separating
736
00:38:45.289 --> 00:38:47.130
and falling to the floor. And I'm trying to stomp
737
00:38:47.230 --> 00:38:49.309
as many as I can into the ground. And the
738
00:38:49.369 --> 00:38:52.320
woman turns around and she says, it felt like you
739
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:56.159
were pulling grass off my back. She didn't even know
740
00:38:56.179 --> 00:39:00.159
that I had removed those things. And I told her,
741
00:39:00.179 --> 00:39:03.429
I said, look, I've just pulled grass. a whole bunch
742
00:39:03.449 --> 00:39:05.929
of them off of your back. However, some have rolled
743
00:39:06.010 --> 00:39:07.829
over by your bed. I wasn't able to get all
744
00:39:07.869 --> 00:39:11.750
of them. They can reattach. However, when you get out
745
00:39:11.769 --> 00:39:14.090
of here, this is a temporary fix. When you get
746
00:39:14.210 --> 00:39:17.050
out of here, you need to go and find someone
747
00:39:17.469 --> 00:39:21.329
who can help you remove these, not only from your life,
748
00:39:21.409 --> 00:39:23.670
but from your environment. Because I'm sure in your home,
749
00:39:23.710 --> 00:39:27.210
there are things that need to be corrected as well
750
00:39:27.550 --> 00:39:30.309
in order to keep them from attaching to you again.
751
00:39:31.269 --> 00:39:33.269
So lo and behold, about a year later, a little
752
00:39:33.309 --> 00:39:36.670
over a year later, I was in Walmart, crouching down
753
00:39:36.710 --> 00:39:39.010
in the candle section, looking at candles. And these two
754
00:39:39.650 --> 00:39:41.889
young women are down at the end of the aisle,
755
00:39:41.949 --> 00:39:43.820
and I see one looking at me, and they're whispering
756
00:39:43.860 --> 00:39:46.340
to each other. So of course, I start checking my
757
00:39:46.389 --> 00:39:49.510
shoe for toilet paper and making sure my zipper is up.
758
00:39:50.219 --> 00:39:52.800
And I hear the one girl say to the other girl,
759
00:39:52.900 --> 00:39:55.099
I know that's her. So I'm like, oh, well, maybe
760
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:57.139
it's a fan, somebody that read my book. And so
761
00:39:57.199 --> 00:39:59.539
I stand up and the woman's walking over and she
762
00:39:59.579 --> 00:40:01.380
looks at me and she said, do you remember me?
763
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:06.000
And she looked familiar, but I couldn't place her because
764
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.940
the girl that I saw in the facility was being
765
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:11.900
so drained by the parasites on her back that she
766
00:40:11.940 --> 00:40:15.500
was an ashen color. She had very short hair. She
767
00:40:15.539 --> 00:40:18.650
was a little bit chunky. And the woman that was
768
00:40:18.690 --> 00:40:21.690
standing in front of me was this beautiful young woman
769
00:40:21.730 --> 00:40:24.659
with a little short blonde bob and her makeup on.
770
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:28.320
And she was slender. And I'm like, I'm sorry. I said,
771
00:40:28.380 --> 00:40:31.480
you look familiar to me, but I can't register your
772
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:33.739
name in my mind. And she said, you're the nurse.
773
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:36.940
You're the nurse that helped me. And the light bulb
774
00:40:36.980 --> 00:40:40.480
went on. And I'm like, oh, my God. I'm like, wow,
775
00:40:40.539 --> 00:40:42.420
look at you. And she said, I want to tell
776
00:40:42.460 --> 00:40:44.920
you that I got out like you told me and
777
00:40:44.980 --> 00:40:47.840
I went and I found somebody who helped me remove
778
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:52.699
the rest of my attachments. She said, and now I'm
779
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:55.489
off all of my schizophrenic meds and I'm only taking
780
00:40:55.550 --> 00:40:59.630
something occasionally for mild anxiety. And she was in her,
781
00:40:59.909 --> 00:41:02.210
she was going to school to become a dental hygienist.
782
00:41:02.769 --> 00:41:07.030
So this totally changed this woman's life. And the thing
783
00:41:07.070 --> 00:41:10.130
that I found out too with the mental illness is
784
00:41:10.210 --> 00:41:13.170
that we were placed in different areas in this facility
785
00:41:13.780 --> 00:41:16.469
at that time. And there was one room that they
786
00:41:16.530 --> 00:41:18.869
placed this in that was basically a room where people
787
00:41:18.909 --> 00:41:22.570
were dumped, literally dumped. Their families didn't come to see
788
00:41:22.610 --> 00:41:25.610
them anymore. They were considered crazy. They would end up
789
00:41:25.659 --> 00:41:28.360
living their lives out in this part of the facility.
790
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:31.139
And there was this little lady who was sitting at
791
00:41:31.179 --> 00:41:34.460
a round table and she was having some coffee and
792
00:41:34.500 --> 00:41:39.780
she was having this full conversation with the other three
793
00:41:39.860 --> 00:41:42.239
seats and the seats were empty, but I could see
794
00:41:42.260 --> 00:41:44.199
that there were spirits in the seat. And so she's
795
00:41:44.219 --> 00:41:47.320
having these full conversations with these other spirits in the seat.
796
00:41:48.230 --> 00:41:51.869
And it almost sounded like she was on a telephone
797
00:41:52.610 --> 00:41:56.170
and she was not talking vocabulary salad, like they claim
798
00:41:56.190 --> 00:41:59.150
the Schitzer Franks do. She was speaking full sentences and
799
00:41:59.190 --> 00:42:01.409
you could get the gist of what the response was
800
00:42:01.510 --> 00:42:04.309
from the spirits in By the way, she was responding.
801
00:42:04.329 --> 00:42:07.369
It was like a one-way phone conversation. And the nurse
802
00:42:07.409 --> 00:42:10.610
says to me, she says, oh, that's so-and-so. She's talking
803
00:42:10.630 --> 00:42:13.599
to things that aren't there again. And I'm thinking to myself, no,
804
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:16.980
you're wrong. She's talking to spirits that are sitting at
805
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:20.019
the table with her. And I really, really felt that,
806
00:42:20.059 --> 00:42:22.079
you know, I couldn't speak up and say anything because,
807
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.739
of course, I didn't want them to admit me. And
808
00:42:24.860 --> 00:42:28.050
as I started to walk around the facility, I started
809
00:42:28.090 --> 00:42:31.349
to notice that the people with the schizophrenia did, in fact,
810
00:42:31.369 --> 00:42:34.690
have attachments on them as well as the people that
811
00:42:34.710 --> 00:42:37.130
were there for addiction. They had a different type of
812
00:42:37.210 --> 00:42:41.139
attachment on them that I call an archon. And they
813
00:42:41.179 --> 00:42:46.059
look like crabs, spiders. They can be reptilian looking, sometimes
814
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:50.840
with a alligator-type tail or a human buttocks. The thing
815
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:54.480
about these attachments is that the head is very, very
816
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:56.820
small in proportion to the body, of which the body
817
00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:00.380
fits on like neat little backpacks on their backs. And
818
00:43:00.420 --> 00:43:02.590
it has a fin that goes from the top of
819
00:43:02.619 --> 00:43:07.079
the head to its nape that is floppy. It's the
820
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:11.019
shape of a shark fin, but it's floppy because they
821
00:43:12.139 --> 00:43:14.639
can detach and attach on walls and things like that
822
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:16.679
in people's homes and ceilings. And when they turn their
823
00:43:16.699 --> 00:43:19.659
head around, that thing kind of flaps over. So I
824
00:43:19.699 --> 00:43:22.639
started walking around the facility and I started picking out
825
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:25.119
the people with schizophrenia and the people with addiction. And
826
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:29.860
I would ask my fellow student people, I said, you know,
827
00:43:29.900 --> 00:43:32.889
by chance, is your patient have schizophrenia and they're like
828
00:43:32.909 --> 00:43:35.400
yeah yeah how'd you know and i only got it
829
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:38.900
wrong once because there was one person that was both
830
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:42.059
an addict and was hearing voices as well so it
831
00:43:42.099 --> 00:43:45.059
was a combination thing but it made me very very
832
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:48.030
interested in the fact that you know it's very very
833
00:43:48.090 --> 00:43:50.789
hard in the case of people even with addiction to
834
00:43:50.869 --> 00:43:54.610
recover from addiction because of these archons um the difference
835
00:43:54.710 --> 00:43:59.880
between schizophrenia and archons is schizophrenia does not invite the
836
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:03.920
um souls to attach. They're usually disembodied souls that are
837
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:08.400
controlled by something darker. Usually some trauma occurs in their life.
838
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:11.199
And as Cisco says, the cracks in the windshield, leave
839
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:13.349
it open for attachment. And that was the case of
840
00:44:13.389 --> 00:44:18.469
these people by no bringing it on themselves. Whereas the
841
00:44:18.610 --> 00:44:23.190
archons attach by invitation. They're welcomed in by a person's
842
00:44:23.369 --> 00:44:27.429
actions or their addiction and And it's something that, you know,
843
00:44:27.510 --> 00:44:31.429
it's hard to detach. And they constantly have to keep
844
00:44:31.550 --> 00:44:35.090
up with their program or whatever support system they have
845
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:40.920
because that Archon, it'll detach from them if they get
846
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:45.960
their addiction under control, but it never leaves their environment.
847
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:51.139
It's constantly there tempting them and taunting them to try
848
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:53.389
to take that drink or to go back and start
849
00:44:53.429 --> 00:44:57.179
taking that drug again because the Archon had a, had
850
00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:00.360
a good thing going and it was living off of
851
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:03.500
the negativity and the rippling effect that was created by
852
00:45:03.539 --> 00:45:06.679
the addiction, the job loss, the divorce, the fighting, the
853
00:45:06.739 --> 00:45:10.489
lack of money or any other circumstances that might be
854
00:45:10.510 --> 00:45:13.809
an infidelity that goes along with some of that. And
855
00:45:13.829 --> 00:45:16.349
of course, you know, they, they were, they were feeding
856
00:45:16.449 --> 00:45:19.809
on that because the negativity that radiates in situations like
857
00:45:19.869 --> 00:45:23.590
that is candy to them. It's like their chocolate. And, um,
858
00:45:24.420 --> 00:45:29.719
And people don't realize what they create for themselves in
859
00:45:29.989 --> 00:45:32.929
this situation like that. And it is extremely hard to
860
00:45:33.010 --> 00:45:36.969
stop an addiction once they've started because those things are
861
00:45:37.030 --> 00:45:40.349
still there trying to get them to get off track
862
00:45:40.389 --> 00:45:41.670
so that they can reattach.
863
00:45:44.469 --> 00:45:45.250
Yeah, I agree.
864
00:45:45.309 --> 00:45:47.829
And a lot of people don't really look into that.
865
00:45:47.869 --> 00:45:52.429
You don't think about addiction. The supernatural and mental illness,
866
00:45:52.469 --> 00:45:56.630
mental health or lack thereof being such a large component
867
00:45:56.690 --> 00:45:59.050
of each other. But I believe there are cases that
868
00:45:59.090 --> 00:46:03.969
are both. I've known people that worked as a psychiatric
869
00:46:04.010 --> 00:46:06.670
nurses that said, you know, some of these people have
870
00:46:07.230 --> 00:46:10.849
demonic activity around them. It's not just all in their heads.
871
00:46:11.610 --> 00:46:16.449
It manifests in what they see and hear things. It's very,
872
00:46:16.550 --> 00:46:21.119
very real. but it's not of this world necessarily. And
873
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:23.380
that's frightening when you think about it.
874
00:46:25.179 --> 00:46:25.679
It is.
875
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:28.219
My wife and I have been watching a show called Hoarders.
876
00:46:28.940 --> 00:46:30.340
And I said to her one night, I said, I
877
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:33.260
think some of these people have some sort of demonic
878
00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:37.300
attachment or affliction. I mean, people living in absolute filth,
879
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:42.360
animal feces up to their ankles. The houses are so
880
00:46:42.449 --> 00:46:45.789
packed with stuff that you can't walk from room to room.
881
00:46:45.809 --> 00:46:48.360
There was one where the stuff was piled so high
882
00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:50.860
they had to crawl to get through the doorway into
883
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:52.940
the other room. The doorway, you know, up the top
884
00:46:52.980 --> 00:46:55.300
of the, there's a high ceiling. There's a little place
885
00:46:55.340 --> 00:46:58.260
they crawl through. It's like a human habit trail or
886
00:46:58.300 --> 00:47:01.679
whatever you have for hamsters. But the place is so
887
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:04.349
filthy that the rats die in there. There's got to
888
00:47:04.369 --> 00:47:06.829
be something more than just a mental illness. I think
889
00:47:06.849 --> 00:47:08.690
there's a supernatural element to some.
890
00:47:08.570 --> 00:47:13.050
Of those diseases. Yep. I totally, totally agree with that.
891
00:47:13.170 --> 00:47:15.210
And the thing is too, is I have had a
892
00:47:15.230 --> 00:47:17.789
lot of people recently that have been contacting me that
893
00:47:17.809 --> 00:47:22.170
have heard me on the shows with Jerry and they're
894
00:47:22.210 --> 00:47:24.639
reaching out because they want to know whether they have
895
00:47:24.699 --> 00:47:28.340
attachments or not. And all of them have so far.
896
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:30.860
And the thing that I'm finding is, is the reason
897
00:47:30.900 --> 00:47:32.559
why I'm going to be writing a book on this
898
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:36.019
as well is the necessity for it is because people
899
00:47:36.059 --> 00:47:40.429
don't realize, you know, that, They expect, like even like
900
00:47:40.489 --> 00:47:43.110
I'm sure you've experienced too, even going in and clearing
901
00:47:43.170 --> 00:47:46.150
out hauntings and things like that. They expect for you
902
00:47:46.190 --> 00:47:49.070
just to come in and work miracles. But the thing is,
903
00:47:49.150 --> 00:47:52.090
is there's a life change that has to go with
904
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:55.760
it that they have to involve themselves in. That if
905
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:58.139
they don't do it, rolls out the red carpet for
906
00:47:58.179 --> 00:48:01.360
everything to come back. And not only that, but also
907
00:48:01.420 --> 00:48:05.440
I'm finding that when I have removed the attachments off
908
00:48:05.739 --> 00:48:12.559
of people, it elevates... their energy level to a higher level.
909
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:15.460
But the thing is, is because they've had those issues
910
00:48:15.539 --> 00:48:18.670
for so long, they're afraid of what's new and they
911
00:48:18.710 --> 00:48:22.329
have a tendency to dip back into what they're familiar with,
912
00:48:22.630 --> 00:48:28.090
which often brings the attachments back. And so it's really,
913
00:48:28.150 --> 00:48:30.610
really important. And like I said, I'm going to write
914
00:48:30.630 --> 00:48:32.929
this book. And like you said, talking about the hoarding,
915
00:48:33.349 --> 00:48:35.199
number one thing in that book is you need to
916
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:39.780
clean your house because they love the clutter, they love
917
00:48:40.059 --> 00:48:43.079
the filth, that sort of thing. You've got to clean
918
00:48:43.139 --> 00:48:48.980
out your house. You've got to get ready to move
919
00:48:49.110 --> 00:48:51.780
forward with that in a positive way once it's removed
920
00:48:51.909 --> 00:48:55.159
off of you. And also, you know, people don't realize
921
00:48:55.260 --> 00:48:57.860
too with the addiction and habits and things like that,
922
00:48:58.179 --> 00:49:01.659
you can go in and clear somebody's house of issues.
923
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:04.480
But if that spirit that is in the house is
924
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:08.179
addicted to something that you're addicted to, like porno or
925
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:11.550
gambling or something like that, it's not just drugs and alcohol.
926
00:49:12.230 --> 00:49:14.750
They would like to linger because they're your fan club
927
00:49:14.809 --> 00:49:19.230
now and they're watching it with you. So, people can't
928
00:49:19.269 --> 00:49:22.409
just expect people like us to come in and clear
929
00:49:22.510 --> 00:49:25.610
something if they're not willing to also do their part.
930
00:49:25.650 --> 00:49:28.409
It's almost a waste of our time to do that.
931
00:49:28.949 --> 00:49:35.300
And again, talking about this, people don't realize what we
932
00:49:35.340 --> 00:49:39.110
have to do to prepare ourselves before we go into
933
00:49:39.139 --> 00:49:44.409
a situation like that, because the attachments and the demons
934
00:49:44.469 --> 00:49:46.530
and the ghosts and whatever's in their house, and I
935
00:49:46.530 --> 00:49:48.510
have to say this, most of the time when people
936
00:49:48.550 --> 00:49:50.309
have a ghost in their house, the first thing they
937
00:49:50.349 --> 00:49:51.809
do is they call you and they say, I have
938
00:49:51.849 --> 00:49:55.690
a demon. But 99.9% of the time, it's not. It's
939
00:49:55.769 --> 00:49:59.469
usually a disembodied soul or poltergeist or elemental or something else.
940
00:50:00.269 --> 00:50:06.239
But the thing is, is that they don't realize... I
941
00:50:06.260 --> 00:50:08.219
just lost my train of thought, but they don't realize
942
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:11.329
what all that we have to do to prepare because
943
00:50:11.590 --> 00:50:15.469
those things don't want us there. And so when we're
944
00:50:15.489 --> 00:50:18.679
in that mode in their house, especially if there's some
945
00:50:18.699 --> 00:50:22.880
people whispering in the kitchen about they saw something, that also...
946
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:26.900
Is energy negatively going out that those things feed on
947
00:50:27.340 --> 00:50:29.929
and it enables them to do more physical acts because
948
00:50:29.949 --> 00:50:33.869
they become stronger with that negative emotion. And while we're
949
00:50:33.949 --> 00:50:38.289
in there trying to address those issues, we are constantly
950
00:50:38.429 --> 00:50:43.119
spiritually putting protection and shield around ourselves because we are
951
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:47.679
under constant attack while we're in there doing that. I mean,
952
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:51.340
I know after clearing people's houses, and I'm sure you've
953
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:55.400
experienced this too, I've literally slept 18 hours and only
954
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:57.489
gotten up to go to the bathroom and drink water
955
00:50:57.989 --> 00:51:02.090
because it's so exhausting. And people don't realize that. So
956
00:51:02.130 --> 00:51:04.889
when we come in to do these sorts of things,
957
00:51:05.150 --> 00:51:07.349
it is a risk for us, number one, that we
958
00:51:07.429 --> 00:51:10.590
carry something home. So we have a preparation that we
959
00:51:10.630 --> 00:51:12.869
have to do before we go and a preparation that
960
00:51:12.889 --> 00:51:15.659
we have to do to clear ourselves afterwards. So there's
961
00:51:15.699 --> 00:51:18.559
a lot of investment in our time to do that.
962
00:51:18.659 --> 00:51:21.920
So it's so important that people are serious. They really
963
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:23.619
want to get rid of these things. They have to
964
00:51:23.659 --> 00:51:27.250
be really, really serious and do their part. And they
965
00:51:27.289 --> 00:51:30.110
need to do it exactly. No shortcuts. They have to
966
00:51:30.150 --> 00:51:32.630
do it exactly the way because there aren't very many
967
00:51:32.690 --> 00:51:35.190
people for one that can help them with this. And
968
00:51:35.250 --> 00:51:37.070
most of the people, you know, will be put in
969
00:51:37.090 --> 00:51:39.949
the nuthouse if they even talk about it. So, yeah,
970
00:51:39.989 --> 00:51:40.679
they don't realize.
971
00:51:41.340 --> 00:51:43.780
And Cisco's talked about that. She's had people reach out
972
00:51:43.820 --> 00:51:46.570
to her. And then she'll either do it or assemble
973
00:51:46.630 --> 00:51:48.269
a team of people. She knows a lot of people
974
00:51:48.389 --> 00:51:51.489
all over the country and the world. But she has
975
00:51:51.530 --> 00:51:53.260
to talk to the person and say, listen, you've got
976
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:57.340
to be ready to follow instructions if you want rid
977
00:51:57.380 --> 00:51:57.619
of this.
978
00:51:57.679 --> 00:51:59.239
Otherwise, it's going to come back.
979
00:51:59.300 --> 00:52:03.059
And there was one example she talked about where somebody
980
00:52:03.099 --> 00:52:05.139
had gotten an attachment, I think playing with a Ouija
981
00:52:05.179 --> 00:52:08.059
board or something at a haunted bridge, brought something back
982
00:52:08.099 --> 00:52:11.179
home with them, scared them, and they wanted rid of it.
983
00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:14.690
So somebody that she sent was able to clear it out.
984
00:52:15.110 --> 00:52:18.389
But then whoever had brought that attachment in there, kind
985
00:52:18.429 --> 00:52:20.449
of like, I guess, missed it, for lack of a
986
00:52:20.489 --> 00:52:23.429
better word, and invited it back. And it came back
987
00:52:23.489 --> 00:52:25.789
and brought several others with it. And then here we
988
00:52:25.809 --> 00:52:28.170
go again. So you have to want it. You have
989
00:52:28.210 --> 00:52:30.969
to know that it doesn't belong there. And you have
990
00:52:31.010 --> 00:52:35.219
to close those doors, literally lock the doors and the windows.
991
00:52:35.860 --> 00:52:39.500
And you talked about cleaning a house. If you look
992
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:42.829
at it from a spiritual perspective, Your body is a temple.
993
00:52:42.909 --> 00:52:45.489
That's the house where your spirit lives. You have to
994
00:52:45.530 --> 00:52:49.360
clean that house out, too. And it's just it's amazing
995
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:52.480
the things that people can bring home through inanimate objects.
996
00:52:52.539 --> 00:52:55.440
My parents were antique dealers when I was a kid,
997
00:52:55.500 --> 00:52:58.000
and sometimes they would bring home an old piece of furniture.
998
00:52:58.659 --> 00:53:00.519
And most of the time, thankfully, it was stored in
999
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:03.039
the garage or in my dad's little warehouse that he had.
1000
00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:05.639
I couldn't wait for that piece to get out of
1001
00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:07.960
there and get to the antique shop.
1002
00:53:08.489 --> 00:53:09.510
Because I felt.
1003
00:53:09.510 --> 00:53:11.349
Whatever it had with it, like, you know, this is
1004
00:53:11.429 --> 00:53:13.389
no good, but you know, I was a little kid.
1005
00:53:13.429 --> 00:53:14.710
What I know, I wasn't going to try to tell
1006
00:53:14.750 --> 00:53:17.639
my parents, Oh, there's a demon attached to that bureau
1007
00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:20.000
or that mirror is haunted. You know, then I would
1008
00:53:20.019 --> 00:53:22.800
have sounded like I was crazy, but I just, I
1009
00:53:22.820 --> 00:53:25.340
knew to stay away from it. And that teaches you
1010
00:53:25.380 --> 00:53:28.179
to keep your guard up and to block these things
1011
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:31.699
off of you. Because like you said, it drains your,
1012
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:35.239
I guess, psychic battery when you do battle.
1013
00:53:34.980 --> 00:53:35.920
With things like that.
1014
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:39.789
And, I've known people that read tarot cards and told
1015
00:53:39.829 --> 00:53:42.329
fortunes and things. And they said, you know, after so
1016
00:53:42.389 --> 00:53:44.969
many times doing this, you just, you get to a
1017
00:53:44.969 --> 00:53:47.090
point where you're drained to the point that you can't
1018
00:53:47.130 --> 00:53:48.789
do it. You have to rest up and build your
1019
00:53:48.829 --> 00:53:51.510
reserves back up. And I think it's that way with
1020
00:53:51.570 --> 00:53:55.300
anything that has an edge of the supernatural, the paranormal.
1021
00:53:55.800 --> 00:54:00.280
It drains the medium or the vessel through all which
1022
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:01.059
this is working.
1023
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:03.969
I totally agree with you. And I'm really, really glad
1024
00:54:03.989 --> 00:54:07.429
that you brought up the thing about the physical body
1025
00:54:07.469 --> 00:54:12.769
being your temple. You know, we feed ourselves good food
1026
00:54:12.909 --> 00:54:15.690
and we go to the doctor to take care of ourselves.
1027
00:54:15.789 --> 00:54:20.170
And there's also another element to the physical body. There
1028
00:54:20.329 --> 00:54:22.809
is a field around you that's called the auric field.
1029
00:54:23.650 --> 00:54:26.690
For anybody listening, I know that you know about this, Steve.
1030
00:54:27.110 --> 00:54:29.610
And it's also important that you keep that clean and
1031
00:54:29.670 --> 00:54:32.750
clear and that you keep it so that, as Cisco says,
1032
00:54:32.789 --> 00:54:35.909
that there are no cracks in the windshield. And you
1033
00:54:35.949 --> 00:54:38.550
have to do this, you know, through prayer and through
1034
00:54:38.590 --> 00:54:41.389
bathing and things like that to make sure that you
1035
00:54:41.530 --> 00:54:44.880
keep it sealed and protected and strong. And people are
1036
00:54:44.940 --> 00:54:47.280
not aware of that. They go along in life and
1037
00:54:47.300 --> 00:54:50.980
they're never aware of it. And I know myself recently
1038
00:54:51.179 --> 00:54:56.139
when my sister passed away. because I was under a
1039
00:54:56.179 --> 00:54:58.639
lot of stress and I was in an element in
1040
00:54:58.699 --> 00:55:01.699
her house where there was a elemental and there were
1041
00:55:01.739 --> 00:55:04.739
some lost souls in there as well. But this elemental
1042
00:55:05.650 --> 00:55:07.730
was a whole nother ball game, which I'll tell you
1043
00:55:07.769 --> 00:55:10.829
about in a little bit. But what I was noticing was,
1044
00:55:10.909 --> 00:55:12.929
is one of her friends came to me and she said,
1045
00:55:12.949 --> 00:55:16.090
I think my son has an attachment. So, and he did.
1046
00:55:16.829 --> 00:55:18.530
So I took it off of him and the thing
1047
00:55:18.570 --> 00:55:22.289
attached to me because I hadn't been taking care of
1048
00:55:22.429 --> 00:55:25.900
my field And because of the lack of sleep and
1049
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:28.809
the duress that I was under with my sister passing,
1050
00:55:29.309 --> 00:55:31.789
and she didn't have any end-of-life directives or a will,
1051
00:55:31.869 --> 00:55:34.889
so it was total chaos dealing with the house. And
1052
00:55:34.909 --> 00:55:37.090
she had an aviary with 100 birds that I had
1053
00:55:37.130 --> 00:55:40.739
to place in five days. So I ended up coming
1054
00:55:40.780 --> 00:55:43.139
home with an attachment that wasn't mine that I had
1055
00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:46.940
to have somebody else remove. And so even, you know,
1056
00:55:47.019 --> 00:55:51.739
we have to be consistent with our caring for animals
1057
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:54.800
not only our physical body and our environment, but also
1058
00:55:54.900 --> 00:55:58.840
for our field, especially if you're an empath, to keep
1059
00:55:58.889 --> 00:56:01.070
it so that When you do get near, I mean,
1060
00:56:01.090 --> 00:56:03.269
you could be standing next to somebody in a grocery
1061
00:56:03.309 --> 00:56:05.070
store and you can see one of these willowy leg
1062
00:56:05.110 --> 00:56:07.550
things coming off of them and you're like, woo, you know,
1063
00:56:07.570 --> 00:56:10.050
you lean away from it, you miss that one. But
1064
00:56:10.090 --> 00:56:14.239
they're constantly looking for new people to attach on and
1065
00:56:14.300 --> 00:56:16.360
they can attach on you if you do have the
1066
00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:19.340
cracks in the windshield and surgeries will also cause that.
1067
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:22.300
So it's so important that when your skin is cut,
1068
00:56:22.340 --> 00:56:24.730
that your arc field also is cut. so that you
1069
00:56:24.769 --> 00:56:27.730
take care and you do things. If you're not able
1070
00:56:27.769 --> 00:56:33.340
to bathe, you can get the drums that the Indians
1071
00:56:33.539 --> 00:56:37.039
use and do that percussion sound over with the vibration
1072
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:40.619
works well as well as the singing bowls that they
1073
00:56:40.659 --> 00:56:44.079
have also creates that, that will help, you know, on
1074
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:47.750
a temporary basis, you know, to keep you from having things.
1075
00:56:47.769 --> 00:56:53.869
Sound, vibrations, music. there's all kinds of things that can
1076
00:56:54.090 --> 00:56:58.849
affect just the world around you and affect you. And
1077
00:56:59.369 --> 00:57:03.570
I had Midwest Night Watchers, Gerald and his wife, Jane,
1078
00:57:03.590 --> 00:57:06.769
who has a channel called Chiro Sounds. And she's into
1079
00:57:06.789 --> 00:57:08.210
a lot of the natural sounds.
1080
00:57:08.469 --> 00:57:12.579
The 432 kilohertz. I think it is. It's a healing, the.
1081
00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:16.599
Human resonance, which the earth and all living things vibrate at.
1082
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:19.840
And she talked about how, you know, that just by
1083
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:23.449
making certain sounds and, vibrations there you can attract good
1084
00:57:23.570 --> 00:57:26.289
and bad things because they hear that and it's like
1085
00:57:26.349 --> 00:57:29.639
a signal those sound waves carry and you can bring
1086
00:57:29.739 --> 00:57:32.760
something to you that you hadn't even intended on by
1087
00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:34.900
literally playing the wrong sounds.
1088
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:38.599
That's absolutely that's absolutely true and you know the things
1089
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:41.889
that i see lingering in the periphery um even at
1090
00:57:41.929 --> 00:57:44.570
the time when when people and when i've been working
1091
00:57:44.690 --> 00:57:49.889
and people have been actively transitioning into to death um
1092
00:57:50.769 --> 00:57:54.409
They come forward. They see the people's loved ones and angels,
1093
00:57:54.449 --> 00:57:57.050
and they're also galactic beings. So I'll tell you about
1094
00:57:57.090 --> 00:58:02.309
that too. But so there is a galactic element and
1095
00:58:02.389 --> 00:58:05.789
everybody's right. So nobody's wrong here. It all comes together.
1096
00:58:05.849 --> 00:58:10.380
It's all connected. But they will come forward because they're curious.
1097
00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:16.500
I've had many, many experiences with that. Some dark things
1098
00:58:16.539 --> 00:58:19.949
sometimes come forward too, especially... for soul kind of like
1099
00:58:20.010 --> 00:58:22.570
a soul harvesting and the case in elementals too, they
1100
00:58:22.610 --> 00:58:27.070
harvest souls sometimes. Um, especially the one at my sister's
1101
00:58:27.110 --> 00:58:30.320
house did cause he comes prepared with his bounding balloons
1102
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:32.599
of a P a ring of people that he carries
1103
00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:37.039
with him. But, um, it is, they do come forward
1104
00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:39.780
because there is a sound and a vibration to, to
1105
00:58:39.820 --> 00:58:43.179
that as well. And, um, I've seen a lot of
1106
00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:47.239
things that way as people are getting ready to transition.
1107
00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:50.280
And I'd love to tell you about death and dying,
1108
00:58:50.340 --> 00:58:50.820
if you'd like.
1109
00:58:53.860 --> 00:58:54.559
Yeah, please do.
1110
00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:57.320
I have my mic muted, so sometimes there's a pause between,
1111
00:58:57.340 --> 00:59:00.590
because I've got noisy neighbors here above and below, so
1112
00:59:00.610 --> 00:59:02.670
I'm making sure nothing bleeds through.
1113
00:59:02.690 --> 00:59:04.150
But yeah, please do. I'd love to hear.
1114
00:59:04.710 --> 00:59:09.070
Okay. The thing about, first of all, there are three
1115
00:59:09.090 --> 00:59:12.079
kinds of death. There is a natural death, which most
1116
00:59:12.139 --> 00:59:16.099
of us have. There's sudden death, and there's a near-death experience,
1117
00:59:16.199 --> 00:59:19.800
and all of those are handled differently on the other side,
1118
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:23.300
and the thing that I've learned about patients in my
1119
00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:27.090
profession is that A lot of times when they're going
1120
00:59:27.130 --> 00:59:30.989
into that natural death, they know that they're going to
1121
00:59:31.030 --> 00:59:34.469
die and they start talking about it. They'll say things like, oh, well, so-and-so,
1122
00:59:34.550 --> 00:59:36.699
you know, if something happens to me, will you take
1123
00:59:36.739 --> 00:59:39.619
care of my cat? Or will you make so-and-so, make
1124
00:59:39.659 --> 00:59:42.719
sure that so-and-so gets this? Or they'll even talk about
1125
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:46.960
the fact that they're going home. And my mother, for instance,
1126
00:59:47.300 --> 00:59:50.280
I'll use her as a for instance example. Before my
1127
00:59:50.340 --> 00:59:53.969
mother passed away, she was going around the facility, the
1128
00:59:54.010 --> 00:59:57.730
hospice facility that she was in, telling people that I'm
1129
00:59:57.750 --> 01:00:00.449
going to go home tomorrow. And she was telling them goodbye.
1130
01:00:00.570 --> 01:00:02.760
And she also told one lady that it had her
1131
01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:06.980
dog put down three days later, that she would keep
1132
01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:09.340
the dog for her on the other side until the
1133
01:00:09.380 --> 01:00:12.539
lady could transition over. And yes, people, your pets do
1134
01:00:12.579 --> 01:00:17.010
cross over too, until she could get there. And lo
1135
01:00:17.050 --> 01:00:20.500
and behold, my mother, she did pass away around 1, 1.30
1136
01:00:20.500 --> 01:00:24.039
in the afternoon the very, very next day. But the
1137
01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:27.320
thing about people, too, that they don't realize is that
1138
01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:33.309
when a person is dying, they go through periods of
1139
01:00:33.369 --> 01:00:36.789
time where the lights are on, basically, but nobody's home
1140
01:00:36.829 --> 01:00:38.429
and they're very hard to rouse. And then all of
1141
01:00:38.469 --> 01:00:40.829
a sudden they'll pop back in. We call this rallying
1142
01:00:40.889 --> 01:00:43.909
in the medical field. Their eyes will brighten, their toes
1143
01:00:43.929 --> 01:00:46.159
will perk. They'll start talking about things that they've seen
1144
01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:49.260
on the other side. They'll start talking about seeing loved
1145
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:51.300
ones in the room. They might even be talking about
1146
01:00:51.340 --> 01:00:55.900
people that you don't realize, you know, that the person
1147
01:00:55.920 --> 01:01:00.130
in the room doesn't recognize, but the soul will recognize
1148
01:01:00.730 --> 01:01:06.070
once they cross over. So anyway, with that being said,
1149
01:01:06.309 --> 01:01:11.019
a lot of times too, people... they leave their bodies early.
1150
01:01:11.059 --> 01:01:13.539
The spirit will leave the body early, sometimes even a
1151
01:01:13.579 --> 01:01:17.800
day before, and then the physical body's just left to finish,
1152
01:01:18.599 --> 01:01:21.199
or they choose to stay in until the very last minute.
1153
01:01:21.340 --> 01:01:24.519
And in my mother's case, she chose to stay in
1154
01:01:24.659 --> 01:01:28.619
until the last minute. And this was evident by even
1155
01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:31.219
though the fact that my mother could no longer verbalize
1156
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:34.190
and she could no longer open her eyes to she
1157
01:01:34.230 --> 01:01:36.880
would move her eyebrows up and down and she would
1158
01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:40.969
try to mouth words. And it was appropriate. People would
1159
01:01:41.010 --> 01:01:43.000
come in and say, hi, Phyllis. And she would move
1160
01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:45.139
her mouth and her eyebrows up and down. Or if
1161
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:47.619
you spoke with her at all, she would do it.
1162
01:01:48.340 --> 01:01:51.340
And the thing was, is I was alone in the
1163
01:01:51.380 --> 01:01:56.900
room with her when she was transitioning. And the opposite
1164
01:01:56.940 --> 01:01:58.840
side of the room started to fill up with the
1165
01:01:58.940 --> 01:02:02.980
ectoplasmic misting on the other side, which is the portal
1166
01:02:03.019 --> 01:02:07.010
that they that most spiritual things enter in through both
1167
01:02:07.050 --> 01:02:10.320
good and bad. And I could see movement on the
1168
01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:12.900
other side. Sometimes I could see a pant leg stick
1169
01:02:13.139 --> 01:02:17.300
out or a shoulder stick out. And yes, people, they
1170
01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:20.199
do show up in clothes. Nobody wants to see their
1171
01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:23.920
mother naked meeting them to help them transition over. Everybody
1172
01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:26.170
would be covering their eyes like mom put clothes on.
1173
01:02:26.849 --> 01:02:38.199
And they usually do present And I don't mean in
1174
01:02:38.239 --> 01:02:41.389
a sickly way. If somebody's had cancer and they become,
1175
01:02:42.150 --> 01:02:45.730
you know, emancipated, you'll remember them as the last healthy
1176
01:02:45.789 --> 01:02:48.750
state that you have seen them in. So as I'm
1177
01:02:48.809 --> 01:02:51.489
sitting in this room, this misting is floor to ceiling,
1178
01:02:51.530 --> 01:02:56.190
wall to wall. And I noticed that there's an opening
1179
01:02:56.309 --> 01:02:59.780
starting up near my mother's head of her bed. And
1180
01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:02.320
I'm watching. And all of a sudden, I see my grandmother,
1181
01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:06.420
my mother's mother step in. And she walks over to
1182
01:03:06.460 --> 01:03:08.840
the side of my mother's bed opposite of where I'm
1183
01:03:08.900 --> 01:03:12.230
standing and sitting and holding my mom's arm. And she
1184
01:03:12.269 --> 01:03:15.449
starts stroking the inside of my mother's arm. My mother's
1185
01:03:15.489 --> 01:03:20.230
sitting at a slant. And when she leaned forward to
1186
01:03:20.550 --> 01:03:23.250
whisper something or say something in my mother's ear, my
1187
01:03:23.289 --> 01:03:27.940
mother started doing the mouthing and the eyebrow thing in
1188
01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:31.239
response to whatever my grandmother was saying. And the thing is,
1189
01:03:31.300 --> 01:03:35.460
is when people start to transition, the filters start to efface.
1190
01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:39.219
So they're able to hear the telepathy of the spiritual
1191
01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:42.579
side as well as they can still hear the physical
1192
01:03:42.820 --> 01:03:48.900
verbalization on the physical side. So behind my grandmother's head,
1193
01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:51.579
I see this frantic wave. And it was my beautiful
1194
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:55.139
sister Robin that was murdered when she was 21 by
1195
01:03:55.159 --> 01:03:59.329
a jealous boyfriend. And her perfume was filled the room.
1196
01:03:59.449 --> 01:04:02.070
She had an unusual perfume that she wore back in
1197
01:04:02.110 --> 01:04:06.449
the 80s called Latisse. And I could just smell her.
1198
01:04:06.650 --> 01:04:10.059
And she came from around the misting over to where
1199
01:04:10.139 --> 01:04:12.579
I was sitting at that point next to my mom's bed.
1200
01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:15.559
And she embraced me. I could feel her long hair
1201
01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:18.280
falling over my face. I could feel her touching me.
1202
01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:21.130
I could feel her essence. And she smelled so good.
1203
01:04:21.809 --> 01:04:26.670
And then she went back around the room and the
1204
01:04:26.710 --> 01:04:28.989
whole wall at the face. So I'm actually able to
1205
01:04:29.110 --> 01:04:32.030
see into the other side. And they had prepared this
1206
01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:36.960
beautiful reception for my mother. There are colors on the
1207
01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:41.119
other side that we would need 10 different color wheels
1208
01:04:41.260 --> 01:04:43.800
to even accommodate. My new favorite color is over there,
1209
01:04:43.820 --> 01:04:45.730
by the way, and there's no way to describe it.
1210
01:04:46.739 --> 01:04:50.449
And the lighting over there seemed to admit from the
1211
01:04:50.510 --> 01:04:53.829
atmosphere itself, there didn't appear to be like a lighting source,
1212
01:04:53.869 --> 01:04:56.460
but the lighting was just perfect. You didn't have to squint,
1213
01:04:56.500 --> 01:04:59.519
but yet you could see everything so well. And there
1214
01:04:59.539 --> 01:05:02.420
were all of these people here in there waiting to
1215
01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:07.570
greet her. in the room as well as angels. And
1216
01:05:07.590 --> 01:05:10.389
I had mentioned the galactic beings because there were other
1217
01:05:10.429 --> 01:05:15.860
beings there that appeared to be from somewhere else. They
1218
01:05:15.900 --> 01:05:19.440
were radiant and beautiful and very, very tall with white hair.
1219
01:05:19.519 --> 01:05:22.320
As a matter of fact, the ceilings were 10 feet
1220
01:05:22.360 --> 01:05:26.519
tall and they were being capped by the ceiling, like
1221
01:05:26.539 --> 01:05:29.380
at the top of what we would call a brow line.
1222
01:05:30.059 --> 01:05:31.679
And I don't know if they were male or female,
1223
01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:36.440
it didn't matter. They were just gorgeous. And thinking about that,
1224
01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:40.400
with all of the sunshines that there are, all of
1225
01:05:40.460 --> 01:05:42.969
the stars, I'm sorry, there are in the sky that
1226
01:05:43.030 --> 01:05:45.750
are sunshines for other solar systems, it would be ignorant
1227
01:05:45.769 --> 01:05:48.070
on our part to think that there weren't other beings
1228
01:05:48.250 --> 01:05:53.190
in other solar systems elsewhere. And of course, we are energy,
1229
01:05:53.829 --> 01:05:57.010
and energy from a scientific point of view can't be
1230
01:05:57.090 --> 01:06:01.880
created or destroyed. And when those beings finish out their
1231
01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:04.380
tour of lifetime where they're at, they also have to
1232
01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:06.860
have someplace else to go to, but I'm not talking
1233
01:06:06.929 --> 01:06:12.090
about like cryptid bug looking things. These are beautiful, beautiful, um, very,
1234
01:06:12.150 --> 01:06:17.869
very high level intelligent, um, beings. And they were also there, but, um,
1235
01:06:18.570 --> 01:06:22.130
my mother, uh, my grandmother leaned forward three different times
1236
01:06:22.230 --> 01:06:25.780
to my mother and was talking in her ear. And
1237
01:06:25.820 --> 01:06:29.969
my mother of course responded and, um, I told my
1238
01:06:30.010 --> 01:06:32.599
mother at that time. And again, too, I want to
1239
01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:35.139
mention that, you know, I'm looking at the people there.
1240
01:06:35.179 --> 01:06:37.880
There were some people there that I recognized from this lifetime,
1241
01:06:37.960 --> 01:06:40.380
you know, cousins and uncles and things that had passed
1242
01:06:40.440 --> 01:06:43.219
away ahead of time. And there were people there that
1243
01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:46.050
I didn't know and recognize. But of course, my mother,
1244
01:06:46.110 --> 01:06:49.769
when she crossed over, she knew everybody. So I said
1245
01:06:49.809 --> 01:06:52.170
to my mom, I said, Mom, I love you. I'm
1246
01:06:52.190 --> 01:06:54.389
going to be OK. It's time for you to go home.
1247
01:06:55.579 --> 01:06:59.059
Grandma and Robin are here to help you transition over.
1248
01:06:59.139 --> 01:07:02.039
And she mouthed and did the eyebrow thing up and down.
1249
01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:06.139
And then within about 10 minutes, she took her last breath.
1250
01:07:07.190 --> 01:07:12.710
So I'm sitting in this elation and this magnificent feeling
1251
01:07:12.929 --> 01:07:18.230
of love and joy coming my way. And when you
1252
01:07:18.309 --> 01:07:20.449
sit in it, there are no words that can describe it.
1253
01:07:20.469 --> 01:07:24.179
There's no earthly feeling that can touch it. But you
1254
01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:28.550
can't help but smile. It's just, you can't help it
1255
01:07:29.150 --> 01:07:31.389
but smile. And even having the tears come to your
1256
01:07:31.469 --> 01:07:34.829
eyes because it's so beautiful. And I'm sitting there feeling
1257
01:07:34.909 --> 01:07:38.510
all of this elation. And I'm noticing, before I noticed
1258
01:07:38.550 --> 01:07:41.949
that my mother had stopped breathing, this group of beings
1259
01:07:42.090 --> 01:07:44.940
that were huddling towards the head of her bed, kind
1260
01:07:44.980 --> 01:07:48.090
of like in a football huddle. And when they opened up,
1261
01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:50.639
my mother's spirit was standing in the center, kind of
1262
01:07:50.659 --> 01:07:54.349
like they were trying to stabilize her spiritual feet. And
1263
01:07:54.389 --> 01:07:57.349
of course, all of the people started coming up to
1264
01:07:57.409 --> 01:08:00.489
greet her. And she was so happy and elated to
1265
01:08:00.570 --> 01:08:02.960
see them. And of course, then I look over, I
1266
01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:05.579
noticed that she has stopped breathing. And to be she's
1267
01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:08.539
not dead, because I can see her right there. And
1268
01:08:09.059 --> 01:08:12.090
I'm realizing, oh, my God, you know, if the nurse
1269
01:08:12.130 --> 01:08:15.190
walks in, and I'm sitting here grinning from ear to ear,
1270
01:08:15.820 --> 01:08:18.699
And my mother's just died and stopped breathing. She's that's
1271
01:08:18.739 --> 01:08:21.039
not a normal response. You know, she might think that
1272
01:08:21.079 --> 01:08:23.180
I did something to her, like put a pillow over
1273
01:08:23.220 --> 01:08:26.939
her head or something. So I called the nurse. The
1274
01:08:26.979 --> 01:08:30.250
nurse did come in. She walked through the festivities that
1275
01:08:30.289 --> 01:08:32.630
we were going on in the spiritual level. They didn't
1276
01:08:32.670 --> 01:08:34.930
seem to even be affected by it at all. And
1277
01:08:34.989 --> 01:08:38.010
she pronounced that my mother had passed. I asked her
1278
01:08:38.029 --> 01:08:40.069
at that time, I said, you know, can I stay
1279
01:08:40.090 --> 01:08:42.760
in the room with my mom? for a little while
1280
01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:45.020
because I wanted to see what was going to what
1281
01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:47.359
else was going to happen because I'm sitting here watching
1282
01:08:47.420 --> 01:08:50.390
all of this. And, and of course the nurse said
1283
01:08:50.430 --> 01:08:52.470
you know okay and so I'm sitting there and this
1284
01:08:52.550 --> 01:08:57.649
literally continued on for about 20 minutes, our time and
1285
01:08:57.689 --> 01:09:00.739
I say our time because the time on the other side,
1286
01:09:00.979 --> 01:09:04.979
there is not time. We have linear time here. We're
1287
01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:08.189
more time oriented. In my book, Colors of Heaven, I
1288
01:09:08.350 --> 01:09:11.649
did make mention in the book that a day there
1289
01:09:11.710 --> 01:09:15.670
is equivalent to 29 years only because the people that
1290
01:09:15.729 --> 01:09:18.250
are reading it have to have something more linear and
1291
01:09:18.680 --> 01:09:21.699
to understand time over there, of the shortness of the
1292
01:09:21.739 --> 01:09:25.359
time that we're gone from there and returning from their
1293
01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:27.810
point of view, from the spirit world point of view.
1294
01:09:28.270 --> 01:09:30.869
So there really is no time frame there, but I
1295
01:09:30.930 --> 01:09:33.850
wanted for them to understand that it's a very, very
1296
01:09:33.930 --> 01:09:36.550
long time for us and a very, very short time
1297
01:09:36.609 --> 01:09:41.619
for them, and that the time frames are different. So anyway,
1298
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:44.300
I'm sitting here watching all of this, and of course
1299
01:09:44.399 --> 01:09:47.069
the people that had come in to greet her started
1300
01:09:47.109 --> 01:09:52.069
to thin out. And my mother started to go with
1301
01:09:52.130 --> 01:09:55.970
my sister and my grandmother heading towards me to exit
1302
01:09:55.989 --> 01:09:58.380
the room along with these five other beings, one of
1303
01:09:58.439 --> 01:10:01.500
which was that beautiful galactic being that appeared to be
1304
01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:04.460
on the level of angels but did not have wings.
1305
01:10:05.399 --> 01:10:07.779
And the thing is, for me, the way that I
1306
01:10:07.840 --> 01:10:11.640
see spirits is that when I see them out of
1307
01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:14.670
my peripheral vision, I can see them as clear as
1308
01:10:14.729 --> 01:10:16.489
I can see you. I can tell you what they
1309
01:10:16.529 --> 01:10:18.359
have on. I can tell you even what their eye
1310
01:10:18.420 --> 01:10:21.220
color is, if they're close enough and that sort of thing.
1311
01:10:21.939 --> 01:10:25.479
When they're in front of me, they appear to me
1312
01:10:25.539 --> 01:10:28.979
the same way as if someone were in a parking
1313
01:10:29.020 --> 01:10:31.449
lot during a sunny day and they're walking forward in
1314
01:10:31.489 --> 01:10:34.109
a mall to say the JCPenney store with those big
1315
01:10:34.149 --> 01:10:37.350
plate glass windows and they see their own reflection. It
1316
01:10:37.390 --> 01:10:40.989
appears kind of opaque. That's how I see spirits. They
1317
01:10:41.050 --> 01:10:43.890
look to me from a distance in front of me.
1318
01:10:44.050 --> 01:10:46.130
And when they're very, very close to me and in
1319
01:10:46.189 --> 01:10:49.130
front of me, I see a waffling to the air,
1320
01:10:49.630 --> 01:10:53.449
like heat vapors coming off of a road or gas fumes.
1321
01:10:54.029 --> 01:10:58.479
And so as these spirits started to walk past me, um, I,
1322
01:10:59.539 --> 01:11:02.939
I recognized my mother's legs because at that point they
1323
01:11:02.960 --> 01:11:06.659
were all in that waffling stage. And, um, but I
1324
01:11:06.699 --> 01:11:09.399
could see her lower half and my mother had gorgeous legs.
1325
01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:11.930
And so I recognize her legs and she's passing me.
1326
01:11:11.949 --> 01:11:14.750
And each one of them made contact with my head
1327
01:11:14.810 --> 01:11:18.010
that felt tingly. And, um, and they went ahead and
1328
01:11:18.050 --> 01:11:22.550
they left and, you know, I've never grieved the loss
1329
01:11:22.590 --> 01:11:24.829
of my mother because for one, I know where she is.
1330
01:11:24.869 --> 01:11:27.710
And to me, she's not dead. She is in communication
1331
01:11:27.770 --> 01:11:29.710
with me while we're here. And I can tell you
1332
01:11:29.729 --> 01:11:34.439
some funny things about that too. But, um, I, I've
1333
01:11:34.539 --> 01:11:38.579
never ever, uh, felt that she was gone. She's still
1334
01:11:38.659 --> 01:11:40.619
very much a part of me, very much a part
1335
01:11:40.659 --> 01:11:42.840
of my life. And it helped me so much to
1336
01:11:42.899 --> 01:11:45.920
know that she wasn't dead and to see how happy
1337
01:11:46.020 --> 01:11:49.180
she was and how whole she was as she went
1338
01:11:49.279 --> 01:11:52.989
to cross over. One of the funny things that she
1339
01:11:53.050 --> 01:11:56.289
had made mention of is there was one point that, well,
1340
01:11:56.329 --> 01:11:59.970
two things actually. Normally my mother would fix the turkey
1341
01:11:59.989 --> 01:12:04.569
for Thanksgiving and she passed away in July. So the
1342
01:12:04.750 --> 01:12:08.779
turkey fell down on me to prepare. And I had
1343
01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:12.979
never made one before. So I started looking on Google,
1344
01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:15.689
and I'm preparing this turkey trying to be all fancy.
1345
01:12:15.729 --> 01:12:18.489
And all of a sudden, I hear my mother come
1346
01:12:18.510 --> 01:12:21.869
through like a megaphone. And she says, Don't forget the
1347
01:12:21.930 --> 01:12:27.569
aluminum foil. And I'm like, don't need aluminum foil. I
1348
01:12:27.590 --> 01:12:29.770
want one of those nice brown turkeys like the ones
1349
01:12:29.850 --> 01:12:33.750
on TV. And I found out very quickly that my
1350
01:12:33.810 --> 01:12:36.510
breasts got burnt, my legs were still raw. And then
1351
01:12:36.550 --> 01:12:40.760
I needed the the aluminum foil to even out the
1352
01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:44.720
cooking of the turkey. So we ended up having hamburgers
1353
01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:47.899
that year for Thanksgiving. But there was another thing that
1354
01:12:47.979 --> 01:12:50.539
she also made mention that a lot of people ask
1355
01:12:50.619 --> 01:12:53.260
about was food. You know, we enjoy eating here. So
1356
01:12:53.340 --> 01:12:56.750
I asked her one time, I said, Mom, don't you
1357
01:12:56.810 --> 01:13:00.050
ever miss the taste of the brownies that you used
1358
01:13:00.090 --> 01:13:02.829
to make or potato salad or the barbecued ribs? And
1359
01:13:02.930 --> 01:13:05.609
she immediately comes through like a megaphone and she says,
1360
01:13:06.310 --> 01:13:09.529
we don't eat here. I said, yeah, I know, I know.
1361
01:13:09.609 --> 01:13:12.939
She says, but we do everything by thought. She said,
1362
01:13:12.989 --> 01:13:16.579
for instance, if we want to go somewhere, we think
1363
01:13:16.619 --> 01:13:19.579
of it and we're instantly there. She said, if we
1364
01:13:19.640 --> 01:13:22.520
want to, you know, be around our loved ones, which
1365
01:13:22.560 --> 01:13:25.880
is another thing, they're able to be six places simultaneously.
1366
01:13:26.310 --> 01:13:28.609
I've had this verified not only by her, but also
1367
01:13:28.670 --> 01:13:31.460
my father who had a near-death experience and other people.
1368
01:13:32.399 --> 01:13:35.279
So they can be present with you and another family
1369
01:13:35.319 --> 01:13:38.800
member at the same time. So she was talking about that.
1370
01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:41.359
And she said, but since we do everything by thought,
1371
01:13:42.180 --> 01:13:45.659
if we want to experience a food here from any
1372
01:13:45.739 --> 01:13:48.649
other place that we've ever been, for that matter, all
1373
01:13:48.689 --> 01:13:51.350
that we have to do is think about it. And
1374
01:13:51.390 --> 01:13:54.819
the sensation of eating it and the flavor of eating
1375
01:13:54.899 --> 01:13:57.699
it comes to us as if we are actually eating it.
1376
01:13:58.300 --> 01:14:00.420
So I thought that was really, really cool that she
1377
01:14:00.460 --> 01:14:02.399
shared that because I'm thinking, wow, you know, I can
1378
01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:04.239
eat as much Ben and Jerry's on the other side
1379
01:14:04.279 --> 01:14:05.859
if I want to and not have to worry about
1380
01:14:05.899 --> 01:14:09.350
the calories. So I thought that that was amazing. And
1381
01:14:09.550 --> 01:14:11.090
I wanted to share that story with you.
1382
01:14:13.149 --> 01:14:20.609
Very poignant. I appreciated that, Lynn. Steve? Yeah, can you
1383
01:14:20.649 --> 01:14:21.029
hear me now?
1384
01:14:21.659 --> 01:14:22.340
Are you still with me?
1385
01:14:23.079 --> 01:14:25.180
Yeah, I'm still here. Okay.
1386
01:14:25.220 --> 01:14:25.850
Can you hear me now?
1387
01:14:26.479 --> 01:14:27.649
Yes, I can hear you now.
1388
01:14:27.710 --> 01:14:29.989
Not sure what happened there. I was talking and I
1389
01:14:30.029 --> 01:14:34.090
was still on the screen here. But yeah, that was
1390
01:14:34.109 --> 01:14:36.510
very poignant. Thank you for sharing that with me. And
1391
01:14:37.390 --> 01:14:39.609
I've been around some people when they passed. The first
1392
01:14:39.789 --> 01:14:41.649
person I was ever actually in the room with was
1393
01:14:41.720 --> 01:14:45.979
my grandmother. And I felt her spirit leave her body.
1394
01:14:46.260 --> 01:14:48.739
It lingered after that. But I felt it leave her
1395
01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:51.420
physical body. And there was just, there was like a
1396
01:14:51.500 --> 01:14:55.430
deafening silence and just almost a, it was almost a,
1397
01:14:55.579 --> 01:14:57.260
I don't even know how to describe it, like a
1398
01:14:57.739 --> 01:15:00.159
tone or a music that I could hear in my head.
1399
01:15:00.659 --> 01:15:00.880
Yes.
1400
01:15:01.100 --> 01:15:05.039
And just that silence, that sudden silence. And I felt
1401
01:15:05.079 --> 01:15:08.279
her spirit pass. And then she was just right to the,
1402
01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:11.000
just to the side of the nurse's station. And then
1403
01:15:11.039 --> 01:15:13.119
suddenly all the sound came back. I could hear the
1404
01:15:13.430 --> 01:15:15.560
sound of the nurse's station. I could hear people walking
1405
01:15:15.590 --> 01:15:18.829
in the hallway. I could hear the, the, the flat
1406
01:15:18.869 --> 01:15:21.920
line of the, heart monitor that they had her hooked
1407
01:15:21.939 --> 01:15:26.359
to because she had flatlined and passed away. But something
1408
01:15:26.380 --> 01:15:28.159
I wanted to ask you, if you've ever observed or
1409
01:15:28.180 --> 01:15:30.939
if it's been your experience, people that hang on, that
1410
01:15:30.979 --> 01:15:33.850
aren't ready to go, they're waiting for something. In her case,
1411
01:15:34.210 --> 01:15:36.630
she was waiting for her son from Florida to get there.
1412
01:15:36.670 --> 01:15:39.189
He had to drive a day or two to get
1413
01:15:39.229 --> 01:15:42.689
to where she was. And he hadn't been there maybe
1414
01:15:42.710 --> 01:15:44.970
a half hour, Lynn, and then she passed away. But
1415
01:15:45.130 --> 01:15:45.810
I think she was.
1416
01:15:45.750 --> 01:15:47.369
Hanging on, waiting for him.
1417
01:15:47.819 --> 01:15:51.010
Have you observed that or experienced that in your situations?
1418
01:15:51.670 --> 01:15:54.000
Yes, I have, where they do linger and wait. And,
1419
01:15:54.029 --> 01:15:56.869
you know, there is some leeway on that. Granted, we
1420
01:15:56.930 --> 01:16:01.390
have multiple times during our lifetime. I want to say six.
1421
01:16:01.609 --> 01:16:03.020
Let me not be exact. It might be a little
1422
01:16:03.029 --> 01:16:06.800
bit more than that, where we have opportunities to exit
1423
01:16:07.399 --> 01:16:11.140
life at certain points in our life if we choose to. However,
1424
01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:15.470
suicide is not one of them. And. But when we
1425
01:16:15.510 --> 01:16:19.729
get to the final time that we're able to do that,
1426
01:16:19.770 --> 01:16:21.949
that is the final time. But there is some leeway
1427
01:16:21.989 --> 01:16:24.199
because the time is different on the other side than
1428
01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:26.699
it is here, that there is some leeway with that
1429
01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:29.600
of a couple of days or so type thing. And
1430
01:16:29.659 --> 01:16:32.270
people do, you know, they fight to stay alive, to
1431
01:16:32.310 --> 01:16:35.960
take that last breath, too. wait on family members and
1432
01:16:36.060 --> 01:16:41.220
things like that. However, when it comes to a certain point, they,
1433
01:16:41.649 --> 01:16:43.329
you know, it's when it's time to go, it's time
1434
01:16:43.369 --> 01:16:45.430
to go, whether the person has been able to arrive
1435
01:16:45.470 --> 01:16:48.329
or not, but they, but they will linger that way.
1436
01:16:48.890 --> 01:16:52.949
You know, speaking of that too, I, you know, I've
1437
01:16:52.989 --> 01:16:59.560
had people mention concerns, fears about crossing over and, and
1438
01:16:59.800 --> 01:17:04.399
not partially because Well, I'll tell you the little story
1439
01:17:04.420 --> 01:17:08.739
about this lady. I had a lady that was concerned
1440
01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:12.220
because she was about 93 years old. She had been
1441
01:17:12.260 --> 01:17:16.659
married to her high school sweetheart, and he got killed
1442
01:17:16.699 --> 01:17:19.060
in an accident when he was like 30 years old,
1443
01:17:19.100 --> 01:17:22.500
and she never remarried. And she was concerned that when
1444
01:17:22.560 --> 01:17:25.420
she crossed over that he would be repulsed by her
1445
01:17:25.479 --> 01:17:28.039
appearance because here he would be this young, handsome man,
1446
01:17:28.100 --> 01:17:31.520
and here she is aged 30. And I explained to
1447
01:17:31.590 --> 01:17:34.050
her that it's not the soul that ages, it's the body.
1448
01:17:34.590 --> 01:17:38.329
And number one, he has been with her through her
1449
01:17:38.390 --> 01:17:40.789
transition of aging. He's aware of what she looks like,
1450
01:17:40.850 --> 01:17:43.850
but her soul does not look like that. So when
1451
01:17:43.909 --> 01:17:46.630
she crosses, he will see her the same as he
1452
01:17:46.689 --> 01:17:49.050
saw her last, and she will see him the same
1453
01:17:49.170 --> 01:17:53.079
as she saw him last. And that's how it would connect.
1454
01:17:53.140 --> 01:17:55.880
And she felt relieved by that because she had that
1455
01:17:55.920 --> 01:18:02.970
concern that her appearance would be... repulsive to him. And, um, so,
1456
01:18:03.090 --> 01:18:05.489
you know, sometimes people have concerns about that, but I
1457
01:18:05.590 --> 01:18:10.050
have seen one person, one person only that lingered for
1458
01:18:10.050 --> 01:18:13.850
10 days that it was actively passing. I don't know
1459
01:18:13.989 --> 01:18:16.489
what that man was waiting for or if he was
1460
01:18:16.569 --> 01:18:19.409
fighting death. And the thing about it too, with him
1461
01:18:19.489 --> 01:18:22.449
is normally the angels start coming in around, usually around
1462
01:18:22.489 --> 01:18:24.930
the head of the bed, uh, where the head chakra is,
1463
01:18:24.949 --> 01:18:28.250
they kind of start coming in around that area on people. Um,
1464
01:18:29.710 --> 01:18:32.789
But this didn't happen with this man. I didn't see
1465
01:18:32.970 --> 01:18:38.520
any angels or any spirits or loved ones come in
1466
01:18:38.960 --> 01:18:42.760
and start helping this person transition over as they fought
1467
01:18:42.779 --> 01:18:45.079
for death. And I don't know what came to collect him.
1468
01:18:46.100 --> 01:18:48.090
I wasn't there the day that he passed, but I
1469
01:18:48.149 --> 01:18:51.399
found that concerning. So you know there are some cases
1470
01:18:51.420 --> 01:18:54.720
yeah and he had no physical visitors either because he
1471
01:18:54.760 --> 01:18:59.090
had his children were estranged from him and you know
1472
01:18:59.170 --> 01:19:02.130
his wife had passed away and you know normally we
1473
01:19:02.170 --> 01:19:04.810
don't die alone even if you are alone in the
1474
01:19:04.850 --> 01:19:07.109
room with no physical bodies you're not alone when you
1475
01:19:07.149 --> 01:19:10.510
pass because you have A whole group of people, spiritual
1476
01:19:10.550 --> 01:19:13.649
people there to help you cross over. But in this case,
1477
01:19:14.539 --> 01:19:16.760
it wasn't. So I'm not sure what happened there.
1478
01:19:18.659 --> 01:19:20.779
And then I've also seen other people that would seem
1479
01:19:20.819 --> 01:19:24.579
to wait. Like when my brother passed away, my sister-in-law
1480
01:19:24.600 --> 01:19:28.470
stayed right by his side the whole time. She at
1481
01:19:28.609 --> 01:19:30.470
some point had to go up and go out and
1482
01:19:30.510 --> 01:19:33.149
get something from the nurse's station. It was like the
1483
01:19:33.210 --> 01:19:35.720
moment that she stepped out of the room, he passed away.
1484
01:19:35.760 --> 01:19:37.399
He didn't want to die in front of her. He
1485
01:19:37.439 --> 01:19:40.399
was ready to go, but he wanted to be alone
1486
01:19:40.579 --> 01:19:41.920
in that physical respect.
1487
01:19:42.020 --> 01:19:43.800
I think that happens sometimes, too.
1488
01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:47.119
It does. My father did that. He waited for all
1489
01:19:47.140 --> 01:19:50.869
of us to leave, and then he passed before he
1490
01:19:50.909 --> 01:19:53.590
knew that we were coming back in the morning because
1491
01:19:53.649 --> 01:19:57.600
he didn't want all of the The negativity and the
1492
01:19:57.680 --> 01:20:01.960
sorrow that comes with the grieving in a lot of cases.
1493
01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:03.939
And the thing is, is sometimes the angels have a
1494
01:20:03.979 --> 01:20:06.810
little bit of trouble coming in close because they have
1495
01:20:06.850 --> 01:20:11.409
such a high vibration that they will exacerbate or emphasize
1496
01:20:11.909 --> 01:20:13.750
any type of emotion that's in the room. So if
1497
01:20:13.770 --> 01:20:16.630
you've got somebody that's really struggling with sorrow, it might
1498
01:20:16.670 --> 01:20:20.479
increase it. So they are very careful about how they approach.
1499
01:20:20.520 --> 01:20:23.920
Sometimes they'll send a physical person in to call them
1500
01:20:23.960 --> 01:20:26.300
away to the nurse's station or something so that they
1501
01:20:26.340 --> 01:20:29.460
can get a little bit closer. But my father didn't
1502
01:20:29.960 --> 01:20:35.789
want all of that sorrow and people hovering over him
1503
01:20:35.810 --> 01:20:39.050
in that way. He also had a near-death experience that
1504
01:20:39.109 --> 01:20:43.229
was interesting 10 years before he passed away that I
1505
01:20:43.270 --> 01:20:44.390
can share with you if you'd like.
1506
01:20:44.890 --> 01:20:46.810
Oh, yeah, please. I'd love to hear it. Okay.
1507
01:20:47.170 --> 01:20:50.789
My father, he had gone for his yearly physical, and
1508
01:20:50.829 --> 01:20:53.550
they found that when they did his eye check that
1509
01:20:53.590 --> 01:20:57.220
he had a bulging vein in his eye, which indicated
1510
01:20:57.300 --> 01:21:01.119
that there was some major vessel that had a clot
1511
01:21:01.180 --> 01:21:04.420
in it that was getting ready to occlude and create
1512
01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:07.479
a massive stroke for him. So they immediately sent him
1513
01:21:07.539 --> 01:21:11.250
over to the hospital from the doctor's office, and they found...
1514
01:21:11.689 --> 01:21:13.710
that the clot was too large for them to be
1515
01:21:13.770 --> 01:21:15.670
able to dissolve it in time, and they had to
1516
01:21:15.810 --> 01:21:20.529
opt for surgery to literally pick it out of the vessel.
1517
01:21:21.489 --> 01:21:25.760
So he had his surgery. He was in the recovery room,
1518
01:21:26.039 --> 01:21:29.539
and the nurse was tending to him. She was getting
1519
01:21:29.579 --> 01:21:33.340
ready to put some pain medication. Actually, she was actively
1520
01:21:33.380 --> 01:21:37.680
putting the pain medication into his IV, and a sense
1521
01:21:37.720 --> 01:21:41.550
came over him of, nope. don't do that. And he
1522
01:21:41.770 --> 01:21:43.970
verbalized it. He said, no, I don't, you know, I
1523
01:21:44.010 --> 01:21:45.859
don't want that. And she said, Oh, well, this is
1524
01:21:45.899 --> 01:21:49.220
your pain medication. You don't want your pain medication. And
1525
01:21:49.279 --> 01:21:53.239
he said, no. And the room immediately went dark and
1526
01:21:53.300 --> 01:21:56.920
he could feel himself hovering. Well, the thing about morphine
1527
01:21:56.979 --> 01:21:59.140
is it was morphine and he's allergic to it. I
1528
01:21:59.199 --> 01:22:02.060
am as well, but it will drop your heart rate.
1529
01:22:02.149 --> 01:22:06.029
And my father always had low blood pressure to begin with. So, um,
1530
01:22:07.399 --> 01:22:10.079
The room went dark just briefly. He felt that he
1531
01:22:10.180 --> 01:22:16.960
was going into a tunnel that was glistening with stars
1532
01:22:17.260 --> 01:22:20.359
like a thousand times more than that are in the sky.
1533
01:22:20.399 --> 01:22:23.579
And he turned over at one point at the ceiling
1534
01:22:23.779 --> 01:22:25.659
of the room that he was in and he was
1535
01:22:25.680 --> 01:22:28.600
looking down and he saw them coming in with the
1536
01:22:28.649 --> 01:22:31.850
crash carts and, you know, everybody coming over his body
1537
01:22:31.930 --> 01:22:35.170
and getting ready to try to revive him. And he
1538
01:22:35.229 --> 01:22:38.470
continued upward. through this tunnel. And he said that he
1539
01:22:38.510 --> 01:22:43.510
was aware of other souls and beings also transitioning in
1540
01:22:43.550 --> 01:22:46.229
the area of him. He could sense that they were there.
1541
01:22:46.250 --> 01:22:52.449
And he continued. He did get a brief period to
1542
01:22:52.569 --> 01:22:56.970
see my sister. He did have part of his life review,
1543
01:22:57.050 --> 01:22:59.789
which he needed. My father was a very intelligent man.
1544
01:22:59.890 --> 01:23:04.270
He was He was a professor, a math professor, and
1545
01:23:04.350 --> 01:23:06.670
also had a degree in chemistry. He was a brilliant
1546
01:23:06.710 --> 01:23:09.029
man with a great mind, but he was a horrible
1547
01:23:09.630 --> 01:23:13.949
alcoholic that was physically violent and abusive and a very
1548
01:23:14.010 --> 01:23:19.869
scary man at times. So as he transitioned up, he
1549
01:23:19.949 --> 01:23:22.500
was able to be in the six places at one time,
1550
01:23:22.760 --> 01:23:25.039
and he was with each of his children. He had
1551
01:23:26.199 --> 01:23:29.340
six children total. One passed. Robin was on the other side.
1552
01:23:30.319 --> 01:23:32.579
at that time, and he was able to be with
1553
01:23:32.699 --> 01:23:34.699
all five of his children at one time. And he
1554
01:23:34.770 --> 01:23:37.310
realized that if he chose to pass at that time,
1555
01:23:37.350 --> 01:23:39.510
which he was given the option, he could have stayed
1556
01:23:39.670 --> 01:23:43.310
or came back, that all of his children would be okay.
1557
01:23:43.369 --> 01:23:46.479
But he was newly married to a lady from Russia,
1558
01:23:47.020 --> 01:23:49.560
and she didn't even know how to drive yet. You know,
1559
01:23:49.800 --> 01:23:52.619
she didn't know how to understand how the banking thing works,
1560
01:23:52.659 --> 01:23:55.840
how to balance a checkbook. how to use the internet
1561
01:23:55.949 --> 01:23:58.880
that we have here and that sort of thing. So
1562
01:23:59.100 --> 01:24:04.420
he decided to come back to help her. And the
1563
01:24:04.439 --> 01:24:08.720
thing was, is when he made that decision to come back,
1564
01:24:09.340 --> 01:24:11.510
as he was coming back through the ceiling and into
1565
01:24:11.550 --> 01:24:16.689
his body, he could feel himself hit the bed that
1566
01:24:16.750 --> 01:24:18.590
he was laying in. And he said he could feel
1567
01:24:18.609 --> 01:24:20.829
the weight of his body and the pain from his surgery.
1568
01:24:20.850 --> 01:24:23.489
And of course, the pain from them you know, trying
1569
01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:25.800
to get his heart started again and things like that.
1570
01:24:25.899 --> 01:24:30.060
And when he did come back, he was a completely
1571
01:24:30.100 --> 01:24:35.170
different man. He became this very, very humble, very sweet man.
1572
01:24:35.649 --> 01:24:40.289
He apologized to his family, apologized to me for what
1573
01:24:40.329 --> 01:24:43.149
a tyrant he had been. And he immediately stopped drinking.
1574
01:24:43.850 --> 01:24:48.960
He didn't touch any alcohol again, ever. And he spent
1575
01:24:48.979 --> 01:24:51.189
the last 10 years of his life getting everything in
1576
01:24:51.310 --> 01:24:54.130
order for his wife, teaching her to drive, teaching her
1577
01:24:54.689 --> 01:24:56.989
how to balance a checkbook and that sort of thing.
1578
01:24:57.069 --> 01:24:59.550
And he made a list of everything that she needed
1579
01:24:59.569 --> 01:25:01.649
to do. He even wrote his own obituary and he
1580
01:25:01.750 --> 01:25:06.569
ended up passing 10 years later. But he shared that
1581
01:25:06.649 --> 01:25:08.470
story with me and he told me, he said, you know,
1582
01:25:08.510 --> 01:25:10.569
you're the only person that I would share this story
1583
01:25:10.609 --> 01:25:12.810
with because I know that you would believe me. And
1584
01:25:12.850 --> 01:25:16.489
it turned out, ironically, that my father was the empath.
1585
01:25:17.100 --> 01:25:19.659
It wasn't my mother. So for all of those years,
1586
01:25:19.819 --> 01:25:21.960
he was the one that was seeing things, just not
1587
01:25:22.020 --> 01:25:25.600
talking about it. And he had all of these empathic
1588
01:25:25.659 --> 01:25:29.319
abilities that he didn't use because back in the day,
1589
01:25:29.800 --> 01:25:32.100
you know, if you spoke in some circles, if you
1590
01:25:32.140 --> 01:25:35.609
spoke about those sorts of things, they would literally send
1591
01:25:35.649 --> 01:25:37.569
the men in white coats to your house to pick
1592
01:25:37.609 --> 01:25:40.810
you up and you'd end up with a lobotomy. So,
1593
01:25:41.329 --> 01:25:43.510
you know, he kept it under wraps. But it was
1594
01:25:43.609 --> 01:25:46.010
interesting because I wondered where we had gotten the gift.
1595
01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:49.560
And it was from him. And usually it's from the mom,
1596
01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:52.420
but it was from him. And I thought that that
1597
01:25:52.460 --> 01:25:55.340
was interesting that we got it from him.
1598
01:25:56.340 --> 01:25:56.619
Yeah.
1599
01:25:56.699 --> 01:26:00.260
And usually I'd say 90% or more, it's from the
1600
01:26:00.300 --> 01:26:03.159
maternal side. But occasionally the fathers will sneak in there
1601
01:26:03.229 --> 01:26:05.970
and you get the gift from them or known people
1602
01:26:05.989 --> 01:26:07.149
that had it from both sides.
1603
01:26:07.270 --> 01:26:09.590
So a double whammy there.
1604
01:26:11.130 --> 01:26:13.390
Yep. That's, that's how we had, and you know, you
1605
01:26:13.409 --> 01:26:16.670
were talking before you had mentioned to, um, about people
1606
01:26:16.710 --> 01:26:21.149
getting ready to pass and that sometimes they see people. And, um,
1607
01:26:21.609 --> 01:26:24.229
this has happened so many times. There was a, for instance,
1608
01:26:24.270 --> 01:26:27.479
that I had with a patient that was blind and,
1609
01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:31.859
you know, the medical community, not only do they, they
1610
01:26:31.899 --> 01:26:36.859
consider hallucinate hallucinations, mental issues, or something wrong with you.
1611
01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:40.210
If you're hallucinating, whether it's with mental illness, which is
1612
01:26:40.270 --> 01:26:42.829
treated in a different way versus people that are getting
1613
01:26:42.890 --> 01:26:45.390
ready to cross and getting elderly and they start talking
1614
01:26:45.430 --> 01:26:47.869
about seeing their parents and things like that. But they
1615
01:26:47.930 --> 01:26:51.409
rush to them with medication, you know, to fix it.
1616
01:26:52.069 --> 01:26:55.729
So the thing is, is that I had a lady
1617
01:26:56.149 --> 01:26:58.449
on my ward that was blind. She'd been blind for
1618
01:26:58.449 --> 01:27:03.329
10 years, could see shadows, anything, nothing at all. And
1619
01:27:03.409 --> 01:27:06.250
she was actively transitioning and her son and daughter come
1620
01:27:06.289 --> 01:27:09.189
to the nurse's station And they say to me, they say,
1621
01:27:09.229 --> 01:27:12.890
mom's talking to people in the room that aren't there. Well,
1622
01:27:12.930 --> 01:27:16.710
I expected that because that's what happens when people start
1623
01:27:16.750 --> 01:27:21.770
to transition over. And so more to comfort the children
1624
01:27:21.789 --> 01:27:24.069
than to comfort her because I knew she was fine.
1625
01:27:24.529 --> 01:27:27.079
I said to them, I said, well, let me walk
1626
01:27:27.119 --> 01:27:29.840
down to the room with you because they seemed very concerned.
1627
01:27:29.939 --> 01:27:32.819
And let me see if I can adjust your mom
1628
01:27:32.859 --> 01:27:35.539
in bed or get her something to make her more comfortable.
1629
01:27:35.640 --> 01:27:38.770
And so we walked into the room. And the patient
1630
01:27:38.810 --> 01:27:41.810
was sitting there at a slant and she was reaching
1631
01:27:41.890 --> 01:27:45.590
up into the air as if she was being handed
1632
01:27:45.729 --> 01:27:49.720
something or receiving something very delicate because she was being very,
1633
01:27:49.779 --> 01:27:53.000
very careful with it and she was smiling. And she
1634
01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:55.899
was very happy with whatever was happening. And I said
1635
01:27:55.939 --> 01:27:58.859
to her, I said, Edna, I said, who's here? And
1636
01:27:58.920 --> 01:28:02.140
she said, George. And her daughter turned as white as
1637
01:28:02.199 --> 01:28:04.109
a sheet and had to sit down. And she said,
1638
01:28:04.750 --> 01:28:09.659
her daughter said, well, George, George, is my father's name
1639
01:28:09.739 --> 01:28:12.359
and my father's been dead for X amount of years.
1640
01:28:13.180 --> 01:28:16.279
And then Edna pipes up and she says, and he's
1641
01:28:16.319 --> 01:28:20.029
glad that you're taking good care of Pixie. Pixie was
1642
01:28:20.149 --> 01:28:24.529
Edna's poodle. When George died, the son had to take
1643
01:28:24.789 --> 01:28:29.949
possession of Pixie the poodle because Edna was blind and
1644
01:28:29.970 --> 01:28:32.930
couldn't care for the dog. And the dog actually was
1645
01:28:32.970 --> 01:28:36.250
still alive, an elderly dog, but still in the son's care.
1646
01:28:37.439 --> 01:28:40.189
So the son said to me, he said, do you
1647
01:28:40.229 --> 01:28:42.899
think that my mom is hallucinating? And of course, as
1648
01:28:42.939 --> 01:28:45.699
a medical professional in that setting, I can't come out
1649
01:28:45.720 --> 01:28:48.279
and say, no, I think your father's here. I think
1650
01:28:48.300 --> 01:28:51.020
your mom's getting ready to transition and he's here to,
1651
01:28:51.039 --> 01:28:53.460
you know, get her ready and get her comfortable and
1652
01:28:53.500 --> 01:28:56.199
help her to cross over. So I turned it around
1653
01:28:56.279 --> 01:29:00.970
and I said, well, do you think she's hallucinating? And
1654
01:29:01.020 --> 01:29:04.210
he came back and he said, well, I don't know.
1655
01:29:04.229 --> 01:29:07.119
And I said to him, I said, well, do you
1656
01:29:07.180 --> 01:29:11.119
mind if I try something? I'm not trying to change
1657
01:29:11.159 --> 01:29:15.000
your belief system or anything like that. But it's been
1658
01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:17.359
my experience as a nurse in this field for many,
1659
01:29:17.399 --> 01:29:21.310
many years that loved ones do come forward to help
1660
01:29:21.909 --> 01:29:25.810
the people transition over at the time of death. And,
1661
01:29:26.149 --> 01:29:28.149
you know, do you mind if I try something? And
1662
01:29:28.229 --> 01:29:30.510
he said, no, go, of course, go ahead. So I
1663
01:29:30.630 --> 01:29:34.720
asked Edna, said, Edna, can I ask George a question?
1664
01:29:34.760 --> 01:29:36.920
And she nodded her head, yes. And I said, George,
1665
01:29:37.720 --> 01:29:43.199
what color is your son's shirt and Edna said yellow
1666
01:29:43.800 --> 01:29:47.340
well keep in mind that Edna is blind completely and
1667
01:29:47.539 --> 01:29:52.579
because the filters are facing George was able to answer
1668
01:29:52.779 --> 01:29:56.659
that question through Edna and she was correct because he
1669
01:29:56.699 --> 01:29:58.930
had on a yellow Ralph Lauren polo shirt and in
1670
01:29:58.970 --> 01:30:02.189
that moment he got it and he said hi dad
1671
01:30:02.289 --> 01:30:04.329
and of course then I left the room and Les
1672
01:30:04.350 --> 01:30:06.229
said I will leave you with your mother and your
1673
01:30:06.270 --> 01:30:09.640
father And the thing is, is what people don't realize
1674
01:30:09.880 --> 01:30:13.260
is they get so tied up in their grief that
1675
01:30:13.319 --> 01:30:16.329
during this time of transition, when the person is able
1676
01:30:16.409 --> 01:30:19.170
to hear the telepathy coming from the other side, as
1677
01:30:19.229 --> 01:30:24.850
well as the physical verbalization on the physical side, that
1678
01:30:25.399 --> 01:30:28.460
this is a time that you can communicate with the
1679
01:30:28.500 --> 01:30:31.979
other side yourself. And I mean, thinking about it, You know,
1680
01:30:32.020 --> 01:30:34.199
how many times have you heard somebody say, oh, I
1681
01:30:34.260 --> 01:30:36.479
wish I could tell so-and-so that I love them one
1682
01:30:36.500 --> 01:30:39.399
more time or tell somebody that I'm sorry, or even
1683
01:30:39.520 --> 01:30:42.239
ask somebody a question like, you know, uncle Bob, where
1684
01:30:42.270 --> 01:30:44.890
he buried the money or where the clock is. This
1685
01:30:44.989 --> 01:30:48.609
is your time. And so many people miss it because
1686
01:30:48.670 --> 01:30:52.250
of their discomfort with having a dead person in the room.
1687
01:30:52.310 --> 01:30:54.829
And even if it's a dead person that they know,
1688
01:30:55.289 --> 01:31:00.029
you know, like their father, excuse me, in this situation. And, um,
1689
01:31:00.479 --> 01:31:03.300
they become so uncomfortable with it that they usually run
1690
01:31:03.319 --> 01:31:05.539
and get the nurse to come and do something about it.
1691
01:31:05.579 --> 01:31:08.340
Like give them medication to, you know, to shut them
1692
01:31:08.439 --> 01:31:10.579
up so that they stop talking about it because of,
1693
01:31:10.859 --> 01:31:14.229
you know, they needing relief for their comfort measures, but
1694
01:31:14.270 --> 01:31:19.029
they miss out on a very, very beautiful time to reconnect. And,
1695
01:31:19.510 --> 01:31:22.710
you know, even with the, I love you and I'm sorry,
1696
01:31:22.829 --> 01:31:25.270
they can hear you the same as you and I
1697
01:31:25.310 --> 01:31:28.329
are talking. So you can always say that at any time,
1698
01:31:28.369 --> 01:31:32.180
but sometimes people, seem to need something a little bit
1699
01:31:32.229 --> 01:31:36.340
more physical on this side when their loved ones do
1700
01:31:36.420 --> 01:31:40.699
present in spiritual form. They want that confirmation to make
1701
01:31:40.779 --> 01:31:44.300
sure that they're really there. And I'm mentioning this because
1702
01:31:45.399 --> 01:31:48.670
when my mother was actively passing, we made a pact.
1703
01:31:49.630 --> 01:31:54.470
And my mother had beautiful, long, pearlescent hair. And I
1704
01:31:54.609 --> 01:31:58.300
asked her, I said, you know, she had cancer. She
1705
01:31:58.340 --> 01:32:01.000
decided to stop going through treatment and we spent a
1706
01:32:01.020 --> 01:32:04.239
whole year checking off her bucket list, going to eat
1707
01:32:04.279 --> 01:32:07.239
lasagna every week at her favorite restaurant and visiting friends
1708
01:32:07.279 --> 01:32:09.550
that she hadn't seen in a while and going to places.
1709
01:32:09.609 --> 01:32:11.329
And she got to camp for the first time in
1710
01:32:11.369 --> 01:32:14.250
her life and she loved it. So we were checking
1711
01:32:14.289 --> 01:32:17.949
these things off. And the thing about it is, is,
1712
01:32:18.649 --> 01:32:22.729
is that in addition, you know, to that, why am
1713
01:32:22.770 --> 01:32:27.800
I forgetting what I'm saying here? Oh my gosh. Give
1714
01:32:27.819 --> 01:32:30.840
me just a second. I completely went blank on that.
1715
01:32:30.859 --> 01:32:38.039
I was actually going somewhere with that. Oh, talking about people,
1716
01:32:38.479 --> 01:32:44.770
seeing other people on the other side. With my mother's transitioning, actually,
1717
01:32:44.779 --> 01:32:47.050
I'm going to change because I've totally lost thought on that.
1718
01:32:47.100 --> 01:32:48.050
I am so sorry.
1719
01:32:48.069 --> 01:32:49.689
Oh, it happens.
1720
01:32:50.369 --> 01:32:51.750
No problem at all. No worries.
1721
01:32:51.789 --> 01:32:53.729
But yeah, I just can continue on with something else.
1722
01:32:53.670 --> 01:32:54.109
If you'd like.
1723
01:32:54.609 --> 01:32:59.779
OK. I also had a patient that I'd like to
1724
01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:03.140
mention that was in the facility that I was working
1725
01:33:03.159 --> 01:33:07.699
in named Abigail. And she actually had no children. She
1726
01:33:07.720 --> 01:33:10.039
had come to the facility that I was working in
1727
01:33:10.859 --> 01:33:16.529
because her husband's health was failing. And so about six
1728
01:33:16.550 --> 01:33:20.029
months into them being there, Abigail slipped and fell and
1729
01:33:20.050 --> 01:33:22.369
she fractured her hip and she ended up on my unit.
1730
01:33:23.460 --> 01:33:25.979
And we built up a rapport because she had been
1731
01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:28.560
there a while going through physical therapy and stuff like that.
1732
01:33:28.600 --> 01:33:31.590
And there was one day in particular that I came
1733
01:33:31.710 --> 01:33:34.010
in and she said to me, she said, Lynn, do
1734
01:33:34.029 --> 01:33:37.270
you think I'm crazy? And of course we had a rapport.
1735
01:33:37.289 --> 01:33:38.750
So I was teasing her a little bit and I'm
1736
01:33:38.770 --> 01:33:42.569
like defying crazy. And she's like, no, no, no. I mean, crazy, crazy.
1737
01:33:42.630 --> 01:33:44.390
And I said, well, no, of course not. You know,
1738
01:33:44.930 --> 01:33:47.720
why would you even say that? And she said, well,
1739
01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:52.060
I see my parents. She said, and I like seeing
1740
01:33:52.100 --> 01:33:55.720
my parents and the doctor saying that I'm having hallucinations
1741
01:33:55.779 --> 01:33:59.470
and he's going to be giving me medication to stop
1742
01:33:59.510 --> 01:34:02.970
the hallucination. She says, I don't want to stop seeing
1743
01:34:03.010 --> 01:34:05.630
my parents. It makes me happy. And she started to cry.
1744
01:34:05.670 --> 01:34:09.039
It was upsetting to her. And I told her, I said, well,
1745
01:34:09.060 --> 01:34:11.760
you know, I heard a report, which is something that
1746
01:34:11.779 --> 01:34:14.060
the nurses gather together on to give an update on
1747
01:34:14.079 --> 01:34:16.500
the patients that one is leaving off and the other
1748
01:34:16.600 --> 01:34:19.100
one is picking up and receiving medication. said, I heard
1749
01:34:19.140 --> 01:34:23.220
that you're going to be discharged in the morning and that, um,
1750
01:34:23.880 --> 01:34:26.659
you know, if for some reason, in the meantime, they
1751
01:34:26.680 --> 01:34:29.529
bring you this medication because you're of sound mind as
1752
01:34:29.550 --> 01:34:31.939
your advocate, I'm telling you that you can refuse it.
1753
01:34:33.170 --> 01:34:35.810
So she, she was happy with that idea. And sure enough,
1754
01:34:35.890 --> 01:34:39.449
she was discharged the next day to go home. But, um,
1755
01:34:39.489 --> 01:34:42.010
then she found out that she had a terminal, um,
1756
01:34:42.140 --> 01:34:46.550
illness and she was back on my unit, um, sometime later. And, uh,
1757
01:34:47.729 --> 01:34:51.329
This time, in addition to seeing her parents, she was
1758
01:34:51.409 --> 01:34:55.060
seeing a woman with a little girl that would come
1759
01:34:55.109 --> 01:34:57.449
and visit in her room. And it was so real
1760
01:34:57.520 --> 01:35:00.840
to her that she was actually sneaking cookies and cakes
1761
01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:03.960
to her room in order to give to the little girl.
1762
01:35:04.779 --> 01:35:07.960
And this was creating a bug problem. So, of course,
1763
01:35:08.039 --> 01:35:13.350
we had to stop her from doing that. There was
1764
01:35:13.489 --> 01:35:16.189
one day in particular that I had volunteered to work
1765
01:35:16.210 --> 01:35:18.729
a day shift. I was a night shift nurse on
1766
01:35:18.750 --> 01:35:20.729
the weekends. I worked a bailer shift so I could
1767
01:35:20.949 --> 01:35:24.930
be home with my kids during the week. And I
1768
01:35:24.989 --> 01:35:28.720
came in, and everybody had been placed back into their rooms,
1769
01:35:28.810 --> 01:35:31.680
and I'm going down the hallway with my treatment cart
1770
01:35:31.699 --> 01:35:34.979
to start treatments. And I pass by Abigail's room on
1771
01:35:35.020 --> 01:35:38.359
my left-hand side, and as I'm passing, I notice Abigail
1772
01:35:38.439 --> 01:35:41.840
sitting in her recliner, She's next to a big picture
1773
01:35:41.880 --> 01:35:45.279
window with an air conditioner underneath like the American hotels have.
1774
01:35:46.050 --> 01:35:49.569
And she's leaning forward with this piece of yellow butterscotch
1775
01:35:49.630 --> 01:35:53.130
wrapped candy. And anybody else that would have passed by,
1776
01:35:53.149 --> 01:35:54.689
it would have looked like she was trying to feed
1777
01:35:54.729 --> 01:35:56.810
the air conditioner. But I saw in front of her
1778
01:35:56.890 --> 01:36:03.329
standing there, this woman in a denim skirt, white peasant blouse.
1779
01:36:03.909 --> 01:36:07.670
She had dark Long hair, straight long hair parted down
1780
01:36:07.729 --> 01:36:09.590
the middle. And a little girl that was standing in
1781
01:36:09.630 --> 01:36:12.149
front of her, also that jet black hair with bangs.
1782
01:36:12.770 --> 01:36:14.869
She had on a little blue dress with a pinafore,
1783
01:36:14.909 --> 01:36:17.760
little Mary Jane shoes. She was a cute, cute, cute
1784
01:36:17.770 --> 01:36:21.100
little girl. And I remember thinking to myself, oh, wow,
1785
01:36:21.159 --> 01:36:25.239
you know, Abigail's got visitors today. I was happy for
1786
01:36:25.260 --> 01:36:27.680
her because, again, she didn't have children. And the only
1787
01:36:27.720 --> 01:36:30.319
person she had to even come visit her was her husband.
1788
01:36:31.359 --> 01:36:33.640
So I walked forward and it hit me. I'm like, well,
1789
01:36:33.659 --> 01:36:35.859
wait a minute. You know, I don't remember those people
1790
01:36:35.899 --> 01:36:38.739
signing in at the nurse's station. And legally, we have
1791
01:36:38.760 --> 01:36:42.279
to have a headcount for the amount of people in
1792
01:36:42.319 --> 01:36:44.500
the building just in case there's an emergency. They will
1793
01:36:44.520 --> 01:36:46.359
know how many people are in the building so they
1794
01:36:46.399 --> 01:36:49.500
know how many to rescue and get out. So I
1795
01:36:49.560 --> 01:36:52.819
stepped back and I knocked on the doorframe and I
1796
01:36:52.960 --> 01:36:55.500
said and she invited me in and I walked in.
1797
01:36:56.170 --> 01:36:59.350
And all of a sudden I noticed that there's nobody there.
1798
01:36:59.369 --> 01:37:01.609
And I'm thinking, there's no way these people could have left.
1799
01:37:01.649 --> 01:37:04.649
I only went three steps forward and I see this
1800
01:37:04.729 --> 01:37:07.869
waffling to the air. So I realized that they were
1801
01:37:07.909 --> 01:37:11.170
spirits and that they were still present. And Abigail says
1802
01:37:11.229 --> 01:37:14.680
to me, she says, I want you to meet my friends.
1803
01:37:14.880 --> 01:37:19.560
Isn't the little girl beautiful? And I said, yes, she is. Well,
1804
01:37:19.699 --> 01:37:21.939
Abigail just about came out of her chair and she said,
1805
01:37:21.960 --> 01:37:25.079
can you see them? I said, yes. And she said,
1806
01:37:25.789 --> 01:37:30.680
don't tell anybody because they'll put you on medication for hallucinations.
1807
01:37:31.279 --> 01:37:34.340
And so here, this woman was being now heavily medicated
1808
01:37:34.399 --> 01:37:38.239
for hallucinations that were not hallucinations. She was still seeing
1809
01:37:38.260 --> 01:37:42.199
them anyway. And she had the wherewithal to, to know
1810
01:37:42.239 --> 01:37:47.439
the difference. And the beautiful thing was, is about a
1811
01:37:47.479 --> 01:37:50.600
short time later, she had started to go into an
1812
01:37:50.699 --> 01:37:54.010
active decline and I came on shift and went into
1813
01:37:54.060 --> 01:37:56.289
her room and I, patted her arm and I said,
1814
01:37:56.329 --> 01:37:59.449
Miss Abigail, it's Lynn. I'm here to check your blood pressure.
1815
01:37:59.470 --> 01:38:02.770
And she was kind of in that rallying stage. And
1816
01:38:02.810 --> 01:38:04.930
all of a sudden her eyes perk up and brighten
1817
01:38:04.989 --> 01:38:06.930
and her toes perk. And she says to me, I
1818
01:38:07.010 --> 01:38:10.149
am so glad that I got to see you one
1819
01:38:10.189 --> 01:38:13.149
more time. And, and I, and she said, I'm going
1820
01:38:13.210 --> 01:38:16.729
home tomorrow with my parents. And I understood what that meant.
1821
01:38:16.970 --> 01:38:20.750
I knew that she was passing. And, uh, she said, and, um,
1822
01:38:21.550 --> 01:38:23.640
And I told her at that time, I said, you know,
1823
01:38:23.680 --> 01:38:25.560
thank you so much for allowing me to be part
1824
01:38:25.600 --> 01:38:28.229
of your health care team. You've been such an amazing lady.
1825
01:38:28.310 --> 01:38:30.619
And she said she interrupted me. and she said, and
1826
01:38:30.659 --> 01:38:33.380
I want to tell you something. And this still brings
1827
01:38:33.439 --> 01:38:36.819
tears to my eyes. She said, you're very much loved
1828
01:38:36.899 --> 01:38:38.909
on the other side and you need to keep doing
1829
01:38:38.949 --> 01:38:42.439
what you're doing. And again, it started to make me cry.
1830
01:38:42.619 --> 01:38:45.909
And I told her, I said, you, you beautiful lady,
1831
01:38:46.550 --> 01:38:49.409
you know, we will meet up again someday. And she said, Oh,
1832
01:38:49.470 --> 01:38:51.859
we most certainly will. And of course, the next night
1833
01:38:51.920 --> 01:38:55.560
I was off. And around 1030. I feel her saying,
1834
01:38:55.640 --> 01:38:58.340
I made it home. And lo and behold, you know,
1835
01:38:58.399 --> 01:39:00.779
I did check with him that she had passed away
1836
01:39:01.460 --> 01:39:05.350
shortly after. So I'm mentioning this because this is common,
1837
01:39:05.359 --> 01:39:08.529
you know, for people who start talking about seeing loved
1838
01:39:08.670 --> 01:39:12.810
ones and they're not hallucinating. They're actually seeing their loved
1839
01:39:12.909 --> 01:39:16.010
ones coming in on the other side. And I'm hoping,
1840
01:39:16.029 --> 01:39:18.850
you know, even being a medical professional, I'm getting close
1841
01:39:18.930 --> 01:39:22.829
to retirement. So, you know, I've come to speak out
1842
01:39:22.890 --> 01:39:27.380
about some of these things medically, because, you know, before
1843
01:39:27.439 --> 01:39:30.359
I couldn't say much, I didn't want my license pulled
1844
01:39:30.380 --> 01:39:32.279
or to to get into trouble. But now that I'm
1845
01:39:32.319 --> 01:39:34.220
close to retirement, if they want to take it, I'll
1846
01:39:34.260 --> 01:39:36.819
just retire early. So I don't care. So I am
1847
01:39:36.899 --> 01:39:42.140
coming forward to talk about these things and how even in,
1848
01:39:42.500 --> 01:39:48.529
you know, medical treatment, there is a spiritual and component
1849
01:39:48.609 --> 01:39:52.829
that they're not even acknowledging in treatment. And the first
1850
01:39:52.850 --> 01:39:54.369
thing they run to is the medication.
1851
01:39:54.899 --> 01:39:55.569
Yeah, and I agree.
1852
01:39:55.609 --> 01:39:58.340
That's not something that they teach in medical school, but
1853
01:39:58.380 --> 01:40:04.279
they should. Especially for palliative care or end-of-life or even
1854
01:40:04.520 --> 01:40:07.340
traumatic accidents and things like that where somebody's not going
1855
01:40:07.359 --> 01:40:11.079
to make it, I think the doctors and nurses such
1856
01:40:11.159 --> 01:40:16.109
as yourself should at least have a little background in that. Now,
1857
01:40:16.210 --> 01:40:18.750
has there been a lot of pushbacks from people that
1858
01:40:18.789 --> 01:40:22.270
you've worked with and things? Do they know what you
1859
01:40:22.289 --> 01:40:23.710
can see and hear, or do you just kind of
1860
01:40:23.729 --> 01:40:24.609
keep that to yourself?
1861
01:40:25.659 --> 01:40:27.939
Yes, because I talk about it all the time. And,
1862
01:40:27.979 --> 01:40:30.359
you know, the funny thing is, is I have not
1863
01:40:30.720 --> 01:40:33.930
had any pushback because you know what? Even people that
1864
01:40:33.970 --> 01:40:36.729
claim that they don't believe there is a part of
1865
01:40:36.810 --> 01:40:40.520
them that is still connected with that consciousness that's on
1866
01:40:40.560 --> 01:40:43.510
the other side that is home for them. that they
1867
01:40:43.949 --> 01:40:47.710
still have a familiarity with. They just are creeped out
1868
01:40:47.810 --> 01:40:50.470
by it because of the way that they've been raised
1869
01:40:50.989 --> 01:40:53.670
and taught to be afraid of it in traditional religion.
1870
01:40:53.710 --> 01:40:57.010
And maybe their gifts were not nurtured. So I've actually
1871
01:40:57.069 --> 01:41:00.149
had people come forward to me, like you were mentioning
1872
01:41:00.229 --> 01:41:04.060
also with you, people thanking you, you know, people come
1873
01:41:04.109 --> 01:41:08.000
forward to me and they say, You know, my grandmother's
1874
01:41:08.060 --> 01:41:10.659
house used to have a rocking chair that would move
1875
01:41:10.699 --> 01:41:13.140
itself out into the middle of the hallway every night.
1876
01:41:13.479 --> 01:41:15.909
And you're the only person I've ever told this because
1877
01:41:15.970 --> 01:41:17.689
I know that you'll believe me and not think that
1878
01:41:17.729 --> 01:41:22.189
I'm crazy. You know, the community has built up such
1879
01:41:22.369 --> 01:41:26.819
a frenzy of craziness around anybody talking about anything that
1880
01:41:26.880 --> 01:41:30.789
other people are scared of. that, you know, they want
1881
01:41:30.810 --> 01:41:33.569
to shove it under the rug. So, yes, you know,
1882
01:41:33.670 --> 01:41:39.569
I have never, ever, ever once gotten a nasty email
1883
01:41:39.649 --> 01:41:45.720
from anybody or anybody that has verbally tried to discredit
1884
01:41:46.140 --> 01:41:50.119
anything that I have said because in their gut, where
1885
01:41:50.180 --> 01:41:52.739
their solar plexus is, they really know that what I'm
1886
01:41:52.800 --> 01:41:56.180
saying is true. And I believe that.
1887
01:41:56.699 --> 01:41:58.279
Yeah, yeah, and I agree.
1888
01:41:59.119 --> 01:42:02.939
And again, that's, you know, this is all just fascinating
1889
01:42:03.319 --> 01:42:08.210
topics here. What's your next book that you're working on?
1890
01:42:08.229 --> 01:42:10.930
You mentioned it in the beginning, but I forgot.
1891
01:42:11.720 --> 01:42:15.619
Yes, I actually have one out for editing. That one
1892
01:42:16.619 --> 01:42:18.909
is the one that talks about the ghost that was
1893
01:42:18.949 --> 01:42:20.829
going from house to house, and it talks about ways
1894
01:42:20.869 --> 01:42:23.609
to protect yourself and clear that sort of thing. But
1895
01:42:23.649 --> 01:42:25.869
the one that I'm working on right now, I came
1896
01:42:25.930 --> 01:42:34.880
up against, it's Omnipresent Gnome, K-O-M-E, place like home. which
1897
01:42:34.979 --> 01:42:38.729
actually Cisco gave me the idea for that. That was
1898
01:42:38.789 --> 01:42:41.289
great with a show that we had done and she
1899
01:42:41.350 --> 01:42:43.510
had put that logo on there. So I'm going to
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01:42:43.550 --> 01:42:45.689
go ahead and use it and add the omnipresent to
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01:42:45.729 --> 01:42:49.529
it because it's perfect. When my sister passed away, I
1902
01:42:49.590 --> 01:42:53.149
inherited her house and there were spirits in the house.
1903
01:42:53.189 --> 01:42:55.260
And of course, because of the sickness and some of
1904
01:42:55.300 --> 01:43:00.159
the negativity that exudes from a person suffering with that
1905
01:43:00.239 --> 01:43:04.539
sort of thing was in the house also. So When
1906
01:43:04.579 --> 01:43:07.520
I went back to her house with my son, we
1907
01:43:07.539 --> 01:43:09.739
went in with all of the bells and whistles. When
1908
01:43:09.760 --> 01:43:13.640
I clear houses, I use a fire component. I like
1909
01:43:13.659 --> 01:43:16.539
to use a fire component because it sucks in oxygen.
1910
01:43:16.739 --> 01:43:19.500
And a lot of times spirits that are floating are
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01:43:19.600 --> 01:43:21.619
in that oxygen and they get sucked in the pan
1912
01:43:21.640 --> 01:43:24.239
and stuck in the stuff that's in the bottom. So
1913
01:43:24.770 --> 01:43:28.050
normally I go in, I crack a door, I let
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01:43:28.069 --> 01:43:32.319
them know that they're free to leave. on their own. However,
1915
01:43:32.380 --> 01:43:34.560
if they choose not to leave, they're going to leave
1916
01:43:34.640 --> 01:43:36.439
one way or the other, and it would be better
1917
01:43:36.479 --> 01:43:39.100
for them to go by themselves. So I go in,
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01:43:39.140 --> 01:43:43.289
bells and whistles, do the fire component, clear the house completely.
1919
01:43:43.310 --> 01:43:45.930
Of course, there were a couple of disembodied souls in
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01:43:45.970 --> 01:43:48.869
there too that ended up in the pan. They did leave,
1921
01:43:48.909 --> 01:43:54.020
but there was this one entity that was in her
1922
01:43:54.069 --> 01:43:58.789
house that I had never, ever experienced anything like that
1923
01:43:59.289 --> 01:44:03.930
before in my life. And it was basically mocking us,
1924
01:44:04.310 --> 01:44:06.840
because it was like, is that all you got, you know,
1925
01:44:06.989 --> 01:44:10.420
kind of thing. My son and I are, my son
1926
01:44:10.460 --> 01:44:13.619
and I are standing in the hallway of my sister's room,
1927
01:44:13.659 --> 01:44:15.640
I was standing in the doorway of the bathroom, he
1928
01:44:15.680 --> 01:44:19.159
was in the master bedroom doorway. And there was this
1929
01:44:19.220 --> 01:44:23.039
third bedroom, and we see this little thing under three
1930
01:44:23.060 --> 01:44:26.960
feet tall, walk past us. It looked like one of
1931
01:44:27.020 --> 01:44:31.600
the bankers on Hogwarts on Harry Potter, just like that.
1932
01:44:31.689 --> 01:44:34.789
And it's a Bogart is what it is. And it
1933
01:44:35.270 --> 01:44:37.409
crossed in front of us, crossed in front of him
1934
01:44:37.430 --> 01:44:40.149
and went into my sister's room. I see this and
1935
01:44:40.170 --> 01:44:42.010
I don't say anything. And my son says, all of
1936
01:44:42.050 --> 01:44:45.430
a sudden he says, did you just see Hogwarts pass by?
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01:44:45.449 --> 01:44:48.390
And I said, yes, I did. And then he comes
1938
01:44:48.449 --> 01:44:50.550
back out and he passes my son again. And in
1939
01:44:50.609 --> 01:44:53.239
front of me, goes back to the third bedroom. A
1940
01:44:54.420 --> 01:44:56.770
little while later, a few minutes later, he comes back
1941
01:44:56.909 --> 01:44:58.829
out and crosses in front of us again and goes
1942
01:44:58.909 --> 01:45:03.189
back into my sister's bedroom. Only this time there was
1943
01:45:03.210 --> 01:45:07.949
the ectoplasmic portal misting. And in the misting were these
1944
01:45:08.449 --> 01:45:12.239
faces of people that were in a wreath shape that
1945
01:45:12.260 --> 01:45:16.239
were just kind of bobbing there like, like balloons. And, um,
1946
01:45:17.630 --> 01:45:20.970
I have a half sister, my dad from another marriage,
1947
01:45:21.189 --> 01:45:23.670
I have a half sister and she had stayed there too.
1948
01:45:23.750 --> 01:45:26.369
And at one point she had made mention to validate this,
1949
01:45:26.729 --> 01:45:28.489
that she was laying in bed and she doesn't even
1950
01:45:28.529 --> 01:45:31.430
believe in any of this kind of stuff. She's starting
1951
01:45:31.470 --> 01:45:34.170
to now because she actually saw things in the house too,
1952
01:45:35.050 --> 01:45:37.130
where she was sleeping in bed and she woke up
1953
01:45:37.189 --> 01:45:40.090
and this wreath thing of people's faces was hovering over
1954
01:45:40.149 --> 01:45:44.659
the bed. And I heard her praying and singing hymns.
1955
01:45:44.960 --> 01:45:46.960
And I wondered why she was doing that. And she
1956
01:45:47.020 --> 01:45:49.840
explained to me that during the night she saw this
1957
01:45:49.960 --> 01:45:51.659
over her bed and she was doing it to make
1958
01:45:51.720 --> 01:45:54.560
it leave. And what she didn't realize is the Bogart
1959
01:45:54.590 --> 01:45:56.590
was standing next to her bed, but the bed was
1960
01:45:56.619 --> 01:45:58.930
so high that she couldn't see him. She could just
1961
01:45:58.970 --> 01:46:01.630
see what he was carrying along with him. So it
1962
01:46:01.670 --> 01:46:07.170
was validated because I also saw those. So I reach
1963
01:46:07.310 --> 01:46:12.579
out to Cisco and, And she directed me to Brian
1964
01:46:12.600 --> 01:46:18.619
Bowden for remote viewing. And I also reached out to
1965
01:46:18.680 --> 01:46:22.619
another friend of ours, Jim Rupert, and his wife for
1966
01:46:22.659 --> 01:46:26.060
remote viewing. Two separate people in two completely different states
1967
01:46:26.079 --> 01:46:29.050
that didn't even know each other. And I'm being told
1968
01:46:29.090 --> 01:46:33.829
the same thing, that there's something in the bedroom that...
1969
01:46:34.130 --> 01:46:37.069
he's coming to get that belongs to him. And my
1970
01:46:37.149 --> 01:46:42.239
sister had inadvertently picked up this ugly rock from outside
1971
01:46:42.260 --> 01:46:45.739
that was in the third bedroom. And I picked it up.
1972
01:46:45.779 --> 01:46:48.319
And at one point, I mean, I even considered throwing
1973
01:46:48.359 --> 01:46:52.439
it away, but it had this really strange energy about it.
1974
01:46:52.479 --> 01:46:54.279
When I picked it up in my hand, it was
1975
01:46:54.340 --> 01:46:57.909
very strong. And I'm like, nope, there's something about this rock.
1976
01:46:57.970 --> 01:46:59.869
I'm not going to throw it away and thank God
1977
01:46:59.930 --> 01:47:03.060
I didn't or I'd probably be dead by now with
1978
01:47:03.380 --> 01:47:05.039
all of the things that that thing could have done.
1979
01:47:06.060 --> 01:47:10.619
But he wanted his rock back and my sister inadvertently
1980
01:47:10.739 --> 01:47:13.399
left it in her house. And I really think that
1981
01:47:13.500 --> 01:47:18.529
he added to her sickness because I found out that
1982
01:47:18.590 --> 01:47:21.770
all of the people prior to my sister living in
1983
01:47:21.789 --> 01:47:26.369
the house had foreclosed on the house. Excuse me. And
1984
01:47:27.949 --> 01:47:30.409
in my sister's case, she paid cash for the house.
1985
01:47:30.939 --> 01:47:34.420
So no matter what the Bogart did to get her
1986
01:47:34.600 --> 01:47:37.439
out of the house and to deplete her of money
1987
01:47:37.500 --> 01:47:40.520
and her illness and everything like that, she was stuck
1988
01:47:40.539 --> 01:47:43.640
because she didn't have money to go anywhere else. So
1989
01:47:43.819 --> 01:47:46.930
it was the opposite effect. So we found out that
1990
01:47:46.939 --> 01:47:50.189
it was this rock. And so we took the rock
1991
01:47:50.909 --> 01:47:53.109
and went, my son took the rock to carry it
1992
01:47:53.189 --> 01:47:55.960
outside to put it in the back near a shed
1993
01:47:56.100 --> 01:47:58.619
so that it would be in a private space. And
1994
01:47:58.680 --> 01:48:01.579
as he's walking, this little thing is behind him flinging
1995
01:48:01.659 --> 01:48:05.079
vines on his legs. And my son's like, yeah, something's
1996
01:48:05.180 --> 01:48:07.000
itchy on my legs. And I'm like, well, yeah, he's
1997
01:48:07.060 --> 01:48:10.609
behind you flinging these vines on your legs as my
1998
01:48:10.649 --> 01:48:12.329
son's going out the door with the rock and the
1999
01:48:12.369 --> 01:48:15.470
thing's very anxious and following along and very concerned about
2000
01:48:15.529 --> 01:48:18.829
his rock. In the meantime, I open the door and
2001
01:48:18.869 --> 01:48:22.500
I say to the spirits, I'm like, okay, daddy's gone.
2002
01:48:22.920 --> 01:48:25.319
You know, this is your time to cross over. Please
2003
01:48:25.359 --> 01:48:27.619
look up, connect with your cord and go to the light.
2004
01:48:27.659 --> 01:48:29.729
Your loved ones are waiting for you. I mean, some
2005
01:48:29.770 --> 01:48:33.310
of these people had been there centuries for centuries that
2006
01:48:33.329 --> 01:48:36.409
he had been collecting along the way of people that
2007
01:48:36.449 --> 01:48:39.430
were disembodied souls or of a lower level that he
2008
01:48:39.470 --> 01:48:44.149
was collecting for his own entertainment, for that matter. So anyway,
2009
01:48:44.189 --> 01:48:50.989
what I found out was that, of course, these elementals
2010
01:48:51.050 --> 01:48:53.770
were created at the time that the earth was created.
2011
01:48:53.890 --> 01:48:58.789
So the spiritual things and religious things that came after
2012
01:48:58.970 --> 01:49:03.329
didn't work on them because they weren't part of that world.
2013
01:49:03.510 --> 01:49:07.859
So they needed to be handled differently. In this case,
2014
01:49:07.939 --> 01:49:11.850
we still currently have the resident Bogart, and he's very
2015
01:49:11.890 --> 01:49:15.689
happy getting Oreos and alcohol and tobacco, and he's leaving
2016
01:49:15.750 --> 01:49:18.529
everybody alone as long as we leave him alone. My
2017
01:49:18.590 --> 01:49:22.079
sister's got a large two-acre lot, and we've dedicated an
2018
01:49:22.199 --> 01:49:25.899
area for him that nobody touches other than walking in
2019
01:49:25.960 --> 01:49:28.859
to give him his daily treat or something like that.
2020
01:49:29.359 --> 01:49:33.750
And he has actually even kept... the yard protected, I believe,
2021
01:49:33.989 --> 01:49:37.100
because no coyotes are coming in or alligators because the
2022
01:49:37.149 --> 01:49:40.760
alligators come under the fence or anything like that. So
2023
01:49:40.800 --> 01:49:43.420
this was my first time experiencing that. And of course,
2024
01:49:44.140 --> 01:49:46.819
on one of the shows that I was on with Cisco,
2025
01:49:46.920 --> 01:49:49.930
she put the fear in this Bogart. And I'm so
2026
01:49:49.979 --> 01:49:52.789
thankful to her because she's such a magnificent woman. She
2027
01:49:52.810 --> 01:49:57.130
has so many gifts and abilities. And we had a show,
2028
01:49:57.430 --> 01:50:02.020
Brian Bowden was also on the show. And she said
2029
01:50:02.100 --> 01:50:05.229
right out. And the thing, what was is I felt
2030
01:50:05.409 --> 01:50:08.130
the frequency change in my ear. So I knew that
2031
01:50:08.170 --> 01:50:10.729
the Bogart was standing next to me during that show.
2032
01:50:10.789 --> 01:50:13.289
And all of a sudden Brian says, he's standing right
2033
01:50:13.329 --> 01:50:15.369
there next to you. And I'm like, yeah, he is.
2034
01:50:16.250 --> 01:50:20.569
And Cisco said out loud, she basically told him, you know,
2035
01:50:20.590 --> 01:50:24.949
I can bring an army of people over there to
2036
01:50:24.989 --> 01:50:27.920
take care of business. Basically, you know, if you don't
2037
01:50:28.000 --> 01:50:32.000
knock it off and, um, And the thing was taken
2038
01:50:32.039 --> 01:50:35.439
back by her power and what she was saying. And
2039
01:50:35.479 --> 01:50:39.960
he knew not to mess with Cisco. So that was very,
2040
01:50:40.000 --> 01:50:42.939
very helpful as well. And then we ended up being
2041
01:50:43.050 --> 01:50:46.029
able to barter with it, which I, again, had never
2042
01:50:46.090 --> 01:50:49.050
come across anything like that before in my life. But
2043
01:50:49.109 --> 01:50:52.770
elementals are real people. They really do exist. There is
2044
01:50:52.810 --> 01:50:57.670
a realm for that. And yeah, they're the guardians of
2045
01:50:57.710 --> 01:51:00.279
the forest and they make your garden grow. So You
2046
01:51:00.300 --> 01:51:02.640
need to be nice to them and, you know, leave
2047
01:51:02.659 --> 01:51:03.579
them treats every once.
2048
01:51:03.520 --> 01:51:04.060
In a while.
2049
01:51:04.159 --> 01:51:04.319
Indeed.
2050
01:51:04.399 --> 01:51:08.539
I had a run-in encounter with some sort of elemental
2051
01:51:08.600 --> 01:51:11.770
when I was eight years old. And then again at 15,
2052
01:51:11.770 --> 01:51:15.130
later found out through a Ouija board session that other
2053
01:51:15.170 --> 01:51:18.750
people were having that it was a naiad, a guardian
2054
01:51:18.789 --> 01:51:22.010
of the water. And it chased me out of the woods.
2055
01:51:22.050 --> 01:51:22.590
I couldn't see it.
2056
01:51:22.590 --> 01:51:25.359
But this thing, it wasn't a little gossamer fairy. It
2057
01:51:25.399 --> 01:51:28.289
wasn't like a tinkerbell or something like that. It wasn't
2058
01:51:28.329 --> 01:51:30.779
a wispy thing. It was big. I couldn't see it,
2059
01:51:31.409 --> 01:51:33.029
but I could see the leaves being kicked up in
2060
01:51:33.090 --> 01:51:35.310
its wake. I could see the branches a lot higher
2061
01:51:35.350 --> 01:51:39.029
than my eight-year-old head being parted where this thing was
2062
01:51:39.069 --> 01:51:43.170
coming up out of this ditch after me. But that's
2063
01:51:43.189 --> 01:51:45.560
something you don't hear a lot about are the elementals.
2064
01:51:45.619 --> 01:51:48.180
I mean, people think of the fae folk as, like
2065
01:51:48.199 --> 01:51:51.500
I said, little fairies and little friendly things, but they're not.
2066
01:51:51.539 --> 01:51:52.060
They're evil.
2067
01:51:52.140 --> 01:51:55.899
They're tricksters. And I believe that there's validity in that.
2068
01:51:55.939 --> 01:51:58.239
There are other things out there that aren't ghosts, that
2069
01:51:58.279 --> 01:52:01.739
aren't spirits per se, but things out there that you
2070
01:52:01.779 --> 01:52:03.899
don't want to mess with them in their realm because
2071
01:52:03.939 --> 01:52:04.340
they've got.
2072
01:52:04.239 --> 01:52:04.869
A lot of power.
2073
01:52:05.310 --> 01:52:07.869
Yes, they do. And, you know, there's a difference between
2074
01:52:08.289 --> 01:52:15.329
fairies and fairies, F-A-E-R-Y. The F-A-E-R-Y are the little tricksters
2075
01:52:15.390 --> 01:52:18.010
that are kind of nasty. And the fairies are really.
2076
01:52:19.430 --> 01:52:22.020
You know, they can be tricksters, too, but not to
2077
01:52:22.060 --> 01:52:27.220
the nastiness degree of the fairies. So, you know, I've
2078
01:52:27.260 --> 01:52:29.720
learned that as well. But there is there is so
2079
01:52:29.800 --> 01:52:34.890
much more energies and other lives that are coexisting with
2080
01:52:34.989 --> 01:52:39.369
us and paralleling our lives that we're totally even unaware of. And,
2081
01:52:39.689 --> 01:52:41.850
you know, I'm glad that you have shows like this
2082
01:52:42.409 --> 01:52:45.770
to enlighten people because it's so important. And a lot
2083
01:52:45.810 --> 01:52:48.720
of paranormal groups that are listening to this show today,
2084
01:52:48.739 --> 01:52:51.439
you know, you may go in and try to clear something.
2085
01:52:51.520 --> 01:52:53.760
And if it doesn't leave it, it's not the people's
2086
01:52:53.819 --> 01:52:56.779
fault that it didn't leave. It might be, but it
2087
01:52:56.840 --> 01:52:59.060
could be an elemental. And if it is, you need
2088
01:52:59.079 --> 01:53:01.699
to deal with it on another level, which leaves me
2089
01:53:01.750 --> 01:53:03.689
with one more thing really quick. I want to say too,
2090
01:53:03.770 --> 01:53:06.289
that I bring this up and Cisco has been bringing
2091
01:53:06.329 --> 01:53:09.949
this up too. And it's so important. You know, people
2092
01:53:09.989 --> 01:53:12.149
go in, you see so many people go into homes
2093
01:53:12.210 --> 01:53:16.000
and they present with this persona of toughness. where bring
2094
01:53:16.039 --> 01:53:19.699
it on basically. And what they don't realize is that
2095
01:53:19.720 --> 01:53:23.109
that is also a negative and the entities can feed
2096
01:53:23.250 --> 01:53:25.689
off of that negativity as well, which you don't want
2097
01:53:25.729 --> 01:53:29.270
them to because they can do more physical acts. But
2098
01:53:29.550 --> 01:53:34.840
in addition to that, When you're entering into someone else's home,
2099
01:53:34.880 --> 01:53:37.899
whether it's a spirit's home or not, please and thank
2100
01:53:37.920 --> 01:53:41.060
you is so important. And approaching in a loving manner,
2101
01:53:41.079 --> 01:53:43.140
for one thing, it'll keep the negative ones away and
2102
01:53:43.180 --> 01:53:47.079
allow the ones that aren't negative to come forward. So
2103
01:53:47.119 --> 01:53:50.159
many people walk in and they're like, oh, touch Blinky.
2104
01:53:50.850 --> 01:53:54.149
So the spirit complies and they touch Blinky and Blinky
2105
01:53:54.189 --> 01:53:57.130
goes off and they, oh, look, look, it's Blinky, it's Blinky.
2106
01:53:57.210 --> 01:54:01.229
So They ask them again. Oh, well, we didn't get that. Here,
2107
01:54:01.310 --> 01:54:03.189
do it again just to make sure it's not a fluke.
2108
01:54:03.250 --> 01:54:05.930
And they touch Blinky again and Blinky goes all off
2109
01:54:05.949 --> 01:54:07.829
and they're like, oh, oh, did you see that? Well,
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let's ask again just to make sure one more time
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it's not a fluke. And then they wonder why these
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spirits are screaming for them to get out. These are
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not trained monkeys, people. These are spirits that have been
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embodied at one form, maybe even very highly educated people
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that have chosen not to cross over. And they need
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to be treated differently. the same way that you would
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want to be treated with respect. And when you go
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in with that, I have found, you know, that even
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in homes or people doing investigations or helping with things
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like that, that you get more from them than you
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would if you went in the other way. They are
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attracted to your love and your light and your gentleness
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and your respect. And they will give you 10 times
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more than what you're actually getting the other way. So
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that's something to, is to take, please take a different
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approach and show your loving light when you go in.
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Yeah. And I believe that's sage advice.
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And again, people that do these investigations and going into
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places and stuff, if you don't know what you're messing with,
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you should really take care, take caution or otherwise, you know,
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like you said, it could attach itself to them.
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They can take it.
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Out of there, but take it home with them, which
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was not the intention and intent. plays a lot of
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role in this Cisco. And I've talked a lot about that,
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but even, you know, they say the road to hell
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is paved with good intentions. So if you don't know
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what you're messing with, this is just my random unsolicited
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advice to anybody out there, get somebody in there that
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does know what they're dealing with and how to take.
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Care of it.
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Absolutely. I totally agree on that. And people don't realize too,
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when they're first starting out, you know, you get that
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first moment where you have a connection with a spirit,
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you get the willies. And the willies are radiating for
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the negative stuff to follow. So like Steve said, you
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really need to know what you're doing and you really
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need to be prepared and ready for it. It's not
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just that kind of moment that you get that thrill
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in the willies for a minute. You are taking a
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risk every time that you present yourself in a situation
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like that. of something coming home with you or being attached,
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you know, and they will create havoc in your life.
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That is for sure if they do.
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Yeah, not anything to be taken lightly or to do
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for fun or entertainment. The people that do this, like
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Cisco and Sir Brian Bowden and others that you mentioned there,
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it's an avocation. They're called to do this, I think,
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and they can't help but do what they do because
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they don't have a choice, I think. And people have
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asked me that, like, You know, why do you choose
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to talk about all these paranormal things? Are you able
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to show everything out there? And like, who's to say
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it was a choice? I think it chose me. It
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was the other way around.
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Yes, and it's so important, Steve. I admire you and
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I appreciate you for having this radio show and all
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of the things that you do in the paranormal community
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to bring this to light because this is really something
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that is very real and needs to be brought to light.
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I think if people have the awareness of this, it
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could actually even make our world better, a better place
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to live with the, um, with the knowledge of you
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being responsible for your thoughts, for being loving, even to
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the spirit realms that parallel us and sometimes are in
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our lives as well. So it is important. This is,
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this is your, your ground, your breaking ground on some very,
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very important things. And I, I don't totally support you
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and admire you.
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Well, thank you.
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I appreciate that. Lynn, And we're almost out of time here.
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This two hours just flew by, but thanks for coming on.
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I certainly appreciate it. And I'll probably be joining you
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over with Cisco sometime soon. Once again, in closing here,
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let the people know where they can find you. I'll
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put links for everything in the show notes, but where
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they can find your books and where they can find you. Okay.
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And thank you very, very much for having me on.
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I would love to be on again. If ever you
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need me to please reach out. They can find me
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at www.lynmonet.com. There is a way to email me there.
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I am doing consults for people that are concerned about attachments,
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also for haunted houses to try to guide them. I
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do have the ability to remove attachments online. And, you know,
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I've been helping a lot of people with that also.
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So you can reach out to me that way through
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my website. I'm currently getting ready to start the MACE classes,
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which is the MEM, which is the inner shifting for
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people that are struggling with post-traumatic stress. It's a wonderful
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thing that can be done. In a session where you
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don't have to go through counseling, a lot of counseling,
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it can be done in one session simply by shifting people.
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But I know that we're running out of time here,
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so I will just leave it with that. And thank
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you so very much. Oh, and my books can be
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found on Amazon, some of them, some of them on
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my website only. So please reach out to me if
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you need. So thank you so very much for having me, Steve.
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Thanks again, Lynn.
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Very, very fascinating. We covered some new ground here for
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a lot of listeners, I'm sure. But I'm going to
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go ahead and get us on out of here.
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I'm Steve Stockton.
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You've been listening to everything out there on the Clyde
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Lewis Ground Zero Radio Network. I'll see you a little
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further on down the trail. Tell your animals I said hi.
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Good night, everybody.
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You're listening to Everything Out There with your host, Steve Stockton. Hello, friends. Hello, hello.
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Once again, Steve Stockton here with you. Everything Out There
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on the Clyde Lewis Ground Zero Radio Network. Thank you
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for joining us and joining us tonight on the phone.
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author Lynn Monet, international bestselling author and paranormalist. Come on in, Lynn.
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How are you doing?
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Hi, Steve. Thank you so much for inviting me. This
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is such an honor.
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Yeah, I know that you and Cisco Murdoch do a
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lot together. She's been on this show more times than anyone,
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I believe. And you come with her highest recommendation. And
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I've seen you on her show, and we've been on
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her show together on YouTube. So it's great to have
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you here.
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Thank you so much. And I absolutely love Cisco. She's
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an amazing lady. That is for sure. She's one of
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my sisters from another mother.
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Yeah, the same. I've called her my sister from another mister.
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She's good folks, and we've been friends for a long,
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long time. And she and I wrote a book together, too.
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Yes, I know. Yes.
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Now, for people listening in that may not know of you,
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tell us about your books and where else we can
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find you, and then we'll get started.
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Okay.
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I currently have a book series called Omnipresent. which is
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going to end up being a five book series. The
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first two books are out. The third one is coming
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out very, very shortly as soon as I can find
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an editor. So anyway, the omnipresent books were based on
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a house that I purchased that was so haunted that
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I was never able to move in. That is the
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first book. And with that, all of the things that
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have occurred afterwards with different things, I've got omnipresent, what
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happened next, which talks about what did happen next as
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well as I go into mental illness and attachments and
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schizophrenia and things like that and talk about that and
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how it's related to the spiritual world. Then the next
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book is 111, Omnipresent 111, Becca Dawn Drive, which is
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another story about a haunted townhouse that I got stuck
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moving into and had to help with people because there
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was a ghost, male ghost that I have a picture of,
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I'll be happy to share. that was going from townhouse
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to townhouse, pulling down women's underwear and crawling in bed
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with them in the middle of the night. I also
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have the fourth book that I'm in the process of writing.
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It's called Omnipresent Gnome, Place Like Home. And it's a
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story about, and all of these are true stories, by
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the way. It's a story about, I just recently inherited
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my sister's house. She passed away in June and found
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that there was a resident elemental, a grumpy one, on
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the property, and it was my first experience with that.
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So it's a story about that, as well as how
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to protect yourself from things and how to prepare yourself
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if you do have attachments to have them removed, that
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there are certain things that you need to do. In
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addition to that, I have Colors of Heaven. As there
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is a dark side to the paranormal, there's also a
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white side to paranormal. Paranormal is kind of a blanketed term.
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But this is on the white side, and it has
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to do with death, dying, and afterlife. I've been a
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nurse for 40 years. 17 of that has been in
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palliative and end-of-life care. I'm also a death doula, so
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I help people cross over and help the family, support
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the family with that. It's kind of like a hospice thing,
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but it's kind of a little bit more than that
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because it also deals with the spiritual part of it.
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And so I've written that book hoping to take the
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stigma of death and dying away and make it easier
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for people that have maybe lost somebody or who have
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been diagnosed with a terminal illness or something like that.
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And it talks about some very beautiful things that have
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to do with death, because really, we don't start living
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until we leave this plane. And people, we don't die,
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we just shed our skin and go. And so in
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addition to that, a couple of friends of mine, I
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was looking for a book for my daughter, I have
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a 15 year old daughter. And about life. And I
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was trying to find one and was working with some
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therapists trying to find we couldn't find one. So they
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asked me to write it, they knew I was an author,
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they asked me to write it. So they kind of
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guided me through it. And it's called the gap. What
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else your adolescent and teen needs to know. And it
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has to do with subjects like what to do if
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a condom breaks. And it's not that I'm encouraging your
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child to have sex. But if your child is having sex,
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they need to know what to do if a condom breaks,
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and hopefully they are using one and how to use
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one properly. And it also goes into things like life skills,
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how to clean a refrigerator, not to wear stinky sneakers
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out on your first date because no matter how handsome
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or pretty you are, stinky sneakers are not attractive, especially
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in a car with windows up. So it goes into
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some life skills that way as well. And that's what
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I've got going on right now. Also, you may have
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mentioned you wanted me to let people know how to
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get in touch with me. I have a website called www.LynneMonet, M-O-N-E-T, likethepainter.com.
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That's lynnemonet.com. I can be reached through there. My books
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are also on Amazon. Some of my books are on Amazon.
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They can be gotten in Walmart, Barnes and Nobles. Some
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of them are only being sold off of my website,
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such as the remainder of the Omnipresent series, the What
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Happened Next, and all of the rest of them that
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will proceed after that. So that's how you can find me. Also,
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I'm on with Cisco Murdoch on her podcast, which is
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Journey Through the Gate, a paranormal podcast, the last Sunday
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of every month. So please, please watch her. She has
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an amazing show. She talks about a lot of subjects,
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and she's just a great all-around person. Also, on this show,
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be sure to give a thumbs up and subscribe if
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you haven't already, because it's also amazing. And that's what
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I'm doing right now.
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Wow, sounds like you're really busy all the time, and
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I can appreciate that. I'm kind of in the same
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boat there with that, but I'd rather have too much
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to do than not enough. I've always got something I
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can work on, and I love that. But now getting
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back to the books and things, and you mentioned something
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there that I think it was when you were talking.
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About The Gap. Oh, that was a different book.
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The one where you talk about the palliative care and
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the people that are passing on and stuff and being
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a doula for that. um, it reminded me, my brother
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was an evangelical minister. I remember one day he was
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preaching a sermon about death and passing on. And he
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walked out from behind the pulpit, took his suit coat
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off and just held it out beside him and say there. Now,
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did that hurt my coat? When I took it off,
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he said, death is the same thing. He said, this
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isn't us. This is just an earth suit. It's where
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our spirit lives while we're here. And when we shed
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that earth suit, we move on to something bigger and better.
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And that's always stuck with me. And, uh, Thanks for
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jogging that memory there.
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I'm sorry. Those are very wise words, Steve, and he
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is absolutely correct. You know, this Earth planet is not
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easy for any of us. It's actually a place that
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we're learning. And the thing is, is a lot of
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us right now, too. such as yourself, you know, there
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are incarnates and reincarnates. We have incarnated. The difference being
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is that reincarnates have to come back for certain reasons
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and incarnates volunteer to come back. And thinking of the
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times that we're going through right now, I don't know
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what made us want to volunteer to be here for
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this timeframe, but we are, and we are light bearers
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and light anchors. And I believe that there's a time
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that's going to be coming very soon that we will
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know exactly what our path is and to step up
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to the plate. But yeah, I just kind of lost
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my train of thought of where I was going with that,
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but I wanted to mention it too.
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Yeah, that happens. I do that all the time, especially
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getting older. I turned 60 last year, so I've been
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doing this for a while, but there's always room for
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improvement and always going to make mistakes and flubs and
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slip ups and things. And that train of thought can
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be easily derailed sometimes. But let's start at the very,
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very beginning. And if you're like me and a lot
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of people I talk to, Cisco's the same way. And
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I can't say enough good things about Cisco. She's a great,
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great friend and has been for years. The paranormal, your
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own experiences, things you've become an experience. It seems like
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for those of us that are empaths or whatever you
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want to call it, it begins usually around three or
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four years of age. Did you have a similar experience
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with that? Did you experience things at a young age?
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And that's what started you on this path?
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I did. As a matter of fact, we lived three
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short blocks behind a hospital. And the hospital was connected
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with what they called at the time, and I was
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also just had a 60th birthday, by the way. Back
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then they were called nursing homes. Now they're called skilled facilities.
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actually Indian mounds in the forest. And so it was
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commonplace for my siblings and I to see dead people
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walking through our house in patient gowns. And even an
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occasional Indian crossing through. I mean, for us, it was like, oh,
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there's a toaster, there's a door, there's a dead person.
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So we were accustomed to seeing them. It wasn't something scary.
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something very profound happened that I will never forget. We
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were in my parents' master bedroom. I, of course, being five,
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was in my mother's jewelry box decorating myself. And my
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brother was sitting on the floor playing with his car.
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had made myself. And he was literally staring at the
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corner of the room, fixated on it. So I looked
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to see what he was looking at. And there was
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this ectoplasmic portal forming, like a misting portal. forming in
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the corner of the room and in stepped my brother's
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best friend, John, and John's mother, father, and brother. And
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they were just standing in the midst, smiling at us.
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And of course, my brother gets up and he runs
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out of the room to find my mom in one direction.
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I go in the opposite direction and he finds her first.
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And I hear him saying to my mom, mom, mom,
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John and his family's here. And my mom's like, well,
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I didn't even hear anybody knock. She says, and they're
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in your bedroom. And he's like, my mom's like, well,
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who let them in my bedroom? So of course she's
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rushing to usher these people out of her bedroom. And
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when they got into the room, nothing was there. And
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my brother got in trouble for it. And of course
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I kept my mouth shut because I didn't want to
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get in trouble too. And he did get even with
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me for that later on. But anyway, the very next
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day in America, we have a spring break holiday with
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our schools. And it was the very first day after
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spring break. And my Brother was on the bus going
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to school and normally he sat with John and John
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wasn't there that day. And then he got to the
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classroom of which he also had a side-by-side desk. They
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actually had tables with chairs that pulled up to them
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and he shared one with John. And again, John was
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not there. And when the teacher, after the Pledge of Allegiance,
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the teacher stood up and announced that John and his
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entire family, John would not be returning to class because
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he and his entire family perished in an auto accident
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the day before coming back from their vacation on spring break.
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the misting in the corner of the room, and it
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was John coming to say goodbye to us. And of course,
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when I got home, because it was in the 1960s,
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that sort of thing wasn't supported. So my parents didn't
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exactly encourage me us seeing these things around the house.
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she didn't say as much about it or discourage it
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as much because she realized that, you know, something must
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have really happened for us to be able to see that.
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go through a period of time when I was about
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10 years old. I was still seeing things and my mother,
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I was born and raised Presbyterian and my mother took
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a jaunt with the Jehovah's Witnesses. And of course, that's
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a book in itself, but we won't go there. And
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because of the way that they believe, she took me
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in front of the elders of the church. And the elders,
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as 10 years old, standing there just shaking in my shoes,
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were telling me that I was possessed, that what I
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was seeing was demons, even if it was something comforting
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like my great grandmother or somebody. And that there was
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basically something wrong with me and that I was going
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to die in Armageddon. And of course, it scared me
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so bad about my gifts. And my mother was in
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this religion for about six or seven years. So it
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scared me so badly that even though I was still
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seeing things, I would run out of the room just
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as fast as anybody else. Oh, there's a ghost. You know,
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that must be a demon. It's not a ghost. And
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I would run and I became... afraid of my gifts,
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and it wasn't until things moved forward and I was
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a mother of two at the time, I have had
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a third child since, that I ended up purchasing a
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home for my family as a single mother that was
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so haunted that I wasn't able to move in. And
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the thing about it was is that it connected me
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with people of like mind, which then made me not
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feel so much like a weirdo. I realized then that
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there were other people out there like me, And it
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helped me to engage with my gifts again and help
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them flourish. And that's kind of where everything started up again.
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my maternal grandmother, her and her family were out of
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the spiritualism movement from around the turn of the last century.
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And just the supernatural was their natural, you know, and
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my mom was.
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Raised in that. When she was a little girl, she
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was born in 1927.
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So in the late 20s, early 30s, they randomly had,
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regularly rather, had seances, table tippings, ouija board sessions. Her mother,
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my grandmother, told fortunes. She read tea leaves and coffee
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grounds and practiced phrenology, which, you know, they tell your
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future by the.
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Bumps on your head.
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She read red animal entrails to predict the next year's
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growing season.
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They were farmers.
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They had a dairy farm and they truck farmed with
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produce and tobacco and things like that. And they also
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raised their own cattle and pigs for slaughter. And every
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fall when they slaughtered hogs, she would pick one that
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was her hog. And then that one, after they slaughtered it,
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she would poke around inside it with a stick and
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then predict what kind of growing season. This will be
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a good year for tomatoes, don't plant too much corn
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this year, going to be a bumper crop of burly.
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Tobacco, whatever.
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It was my mom and nine boys.
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They swore that she was every bit as accurate as
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the old Farmer's Almanac, which back in those days and prior,
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farmers lived and.
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Died by that book. It was almost like the Bible.
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It usually hung on a nail in the kitchen, and
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they would take that down and look at it. during
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the meals and stuff but I just you know you
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grow up around it you don't think.
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About it and then.
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raised around it like that you don't really think about
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it and then when I started school you know I'd
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already had experiences when I was three and four and
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five and beyond and I didn't realize that these things
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didn't happen to everybody I didn't realize how special and
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unusual that was And it can make you, you know,
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the butt of jokes and people think you're crazy and things.
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But then after writing some of my books, especially My
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Strange World, which is my own personal paranormal experiences, just
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a few of them, I've had people come to me
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and say, you know, thank you for doing this. It
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helps me to deal with things that I've experienced and
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lived through and saw and not feel crazy like I
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was made to feel crazy. So you know, a lot
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of the work that we do as paranormalists, I'm going
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to put myself in that group too. And the experiences
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we help other people to come with terms, which come
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to terms with what they've seen or heard or, and
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realize that, no, you're, you're not necessarily crazy. Now there
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are some people out there that, that have, you know,
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mental health problems and things, and I'm sure they hear
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and see things that other people don't, but I don't
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think that's the case in every single incident that I've
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heard about and read about. And, I know what I saw.
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I know what I felt or heard or whatever. And
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nobody's going to convince me otherwise. And otherwise, I don't
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think I'm mentally ill or anything.
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I'm not normal.
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But I don't want to be normal. I realized at
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a very young age when I started kindergarten that I
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didn't fit in.
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I'm not like the other kids. And I came to
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embrace that.
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And that's very freeing and very liberating when you can
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just be yourself. You talked about several different haunted houses
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that you've lived in. That's been my experience too. Every
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house that I've ever lived in had some activity. It
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was haunted to some degree. But I came to revelation,
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it's been a few years ago now, probably a decade
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or more, that it's not the houses, it's me that's haunted.
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This stuff follows me around. And Cisco likened that to
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like a candle in the darkness that the moths flock to.
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She said, they see you. They know that you can
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hear or see or sense them. whatever the case may be,
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and they come to tell you their stories. Do you
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agree with that statement?
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I totally agree with that, that we are haunted. And
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something else that I found out, too, is in addition
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to us being haunted, the thing that I found out
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is when I did purchase that haunted house, I learned
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that it wasn't so much about the house. It was
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about the ground that it was built on. So even
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a brand new house can be haunted if it's built
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in the wrong place, because you don't know what was
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there hundreds of years ago. You could be building your
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house on some precious burial ground or something like that.
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But once you do get involved with the paranormal, both
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light and dark, we are like beacons. And that's part
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of also the incarnation versus reincarnation. Our lights are very,
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very bright. And A lot of times there are souls
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for one thing that at the time of death, they
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can choose to cross over or not. And the ones
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that choose not to cross over are the ones that
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are wandering around haunting people's houses and following people like
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us around, but they are brought to us like a
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moth to a light. Just like Cisco said, I totally
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agree with that because they think that we're angels because
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our light is brighter than other people's. Um, and so they,
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they are attracted to us for that. And, um, You know,
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it's pretty bad when the demons know you by your
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first name. So, yeah, we are haunted, but it's not
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necessarily a bad thing. There are some good things about it, too.
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And when I say haunted, I don't mean like the
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dark part of it. There's a light part of it, too.
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So we help souls cross over because they approach us,
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and we can do a lot of good things with
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that as well.
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Yeah, and I'm the same way. I'll use the term haunting,
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but there's good hauntings, there's bad hauntings. And that's just
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kind of a catch-all phrase, but people know what you're
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talking about. And yeah, there are good and evil. And
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Cisco has a thing that she likes to say that's
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going to be a little racy here. But she says,
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you know, basically, if they're an asshole in life, they
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can be an asshole in the afterlife, too. And she said,
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I've came up against people like that, the spirits, where
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they were just miserable people when they're alive. And now
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that they're passed on, they're still miserable.
389
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Yep, yep, absolutely. I've come across that as well. And
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the thing is, as I had mentioned, there's freedom of
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choice when people come to pass. As a nurse in
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my profession, I've seen hundreds of people pass away. I've
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seen them cross over. People, everybody crosses over unless they
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choose not to, even people that commit suicide. So people
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that commit suicide do not go to hell. That's another
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thing too. But I've seen them cross over and I've
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seen a lot of them that are stuck here. And
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the important thing is, is that they do have that
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freedom of choice to do that. And when they linger,
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you know, they still, the thing about if they don't
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cross over versus if they cross over is when they
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don't cross over, the cause of death still shows. If
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they have mental illness, they still have it. If they
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have addiction problems, they still have it. And they keep
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all of their senses, which you keep all of your
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senses when you cross over as well. And I've had
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people kind of mention to me, well, they can't smell,
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you know, they don't have an olfactory nerve, but it's
409
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not about that. It's about memory recall. And so you'll
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see them lingering in bars around people drinking or lingering
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around people that are smoking cigarettes, just trying to get
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into that scent of it, even... Cisco wrote a book, too,
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talking about the jumpers that would try to, when she
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was working as a bartender, that would try to enter
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into people and how their demeanor would change. So these
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sorts of things do happen by these things that are lingering.
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So yes, absolutely, they keep their personality. And if they're nasty,
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they're nasty. One thing that I did experience is that
419
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when my sister passed away, She wanted to be cremated
420
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and she wanted to be taken to the ocean. And
421
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I found that when I went to Florida, I had
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her all wrapped up in a towel and in the
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box so that it wouldn't be obvious that I was
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carrying ashes down to this beach. I couldn't stand to
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carry the box close to me. Because I could feel
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the negativity of what was left behind, even though it
427
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was familiar to me because it was part of her,
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because we are all a bag of emotions and a
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bag of different issues. You literally do shed all of
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your bad stuff and leave it behind with the contents
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of your body when you do choose to cross over.
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And I was picking that up. And I mentioned this
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because a lot of people want to get ashes and
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put them in a pendant and wear it around their neck.
435
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And I really... don't recommend you wearing something that close
436
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to you. There are other ways that you can honor
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their death or if you miss them, after all, they
438
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can hear you talking just like we're talking. But the
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thing was, is I actually had to take the ashes,
440
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put them in a beach pail, cover it so that
441
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the ashes wouldn't blow. And I walked into the water
442
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waist deep and submerged it so that they wouldn't fly
443
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all over. And she went. But I found that interesting.
444
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I didn't realize... how much of the negativity, the negative thoughts,
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the illness, the sorrow, the hardship during life, and all
446
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of that is left in that contents. And it still
447
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is radiating that energy even after they've been cremated and
448
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they've passed. So I wanted to mention that because I,
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you know, a lot of people do, you know, they
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want to share the ashes around and they want to
451
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wear them close and it may not be a good thing.
452
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Yeah, I agree. I had a friend like that who
453
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had one of his army buddies that had gotten killed
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in battle with him.
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He didn't die, but his friend did.
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And he stored those in a shell casing and wore
457
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it around for a while. And then after that, he
458
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put it in the house where he was living. And
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they had all kinds of things happen there, not necessarily
460
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related to the person that had died, but all these
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other spirits and things coming through. And then after those
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remains were done away with, taken, and I don't know
463
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if they were interred or released or whatever.
464
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But after that, it settled down. So other things didn't
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like what was in there.
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And I think, you know, negative attracted other negative things.
467
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Absolutely.
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And this was a person who had died suddenly and violently.
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And there you go. There's that negativity.
470
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Yes, absolutely. And they are attracted to the negative. As
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a matter of fact, even when we're living, they're attracted
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to the negative. And it's so important for people to
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keep their, their thoughts, you know, thoughts are energy, verbalization
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is energy, and you think at first, and then you
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verbalize it. So it goes out into the universe twice.
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And you want to be really, really careful about what
477
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you put I am or I can't in front of
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because you're sending that message out. And so it's very,
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very important for people to be responsible for their thoughts
480
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and what they're saying and to try to keep it
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on a upper level, more joyous, more laughter, because love
482
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and joy and laughter is repellent to the dark side.
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So if you don't want them around you, you need
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to keep your spirits up and definitely they won't come
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around you.
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Yeah, and Cisco talked about that, how in a place
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that's negative and feels all that heavy, dark, oppressive energy,
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she would laugh or sing a song or tell jokes
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or just try to raise the vibration in that room,
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even if she was the only one there. And I
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believe that works. And what you were saying there, You know,
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that's biblical that you have what you confess. They have
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the power of life and death in the tongue. And
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if you confess bad things to yourself, that's what's going
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to happen. You've already claimed it. Now, there are preachers
496
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that have those name it and claim it ministries. But again,
497
00:26:23.059 --> 00:26:27.539
I think you can attract negative to yourself even inadvertently. Like,
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you know, you get up and you stub your toe like, oh, great.
499
00:26:30.829 --> 00:26:32.509
You know, this is going to be one of those days.
500
00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:34.730
You've already pronounced it to the universe.
501
00:26:35.750 --> 00:26:39.190
Yep. That's absolutely, that is dead on. And that's a really,
502
00:26:39.259 --> 00:26:42.400
really good example of it, of how innocently somebody could
503
00:26:42.460 --> 00:26:45.920
stumble into that, or I never win the lotto, right? This, or,
504
00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:48.539
you know, I hate my job and everybody, you know,
505
00:26:48.579 --> 00:26:51.319
it just, you really, really need to choose your words
506
00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:54.380
carefully because the outcome could be very different for you
507
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in life. The mind is very, very powerful and everything counts,
508
00:26:58.779 --> 00:27:04.509
especially since the other side communicates through telepathy and And
509
00:27:04.529 --> 00:27:07.710
of course we communicate in words, but the thought is
510
00:27:07.769 --> 00:27:13.029
the telepathic part. And yeah, they hear you. So definitely
511
00:27:13.410 --> 00:27:15.910
choose what you want. I I'm right now. It's funny
512
00:27:15.970 --> 00:27:18.759
because I'm trying to manifest a new car. So I'm
513
00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:22.430
driving my little Toyota Corolla and I, My dream car
514
00:27:22.450 --> 00:27:25.390
is a Volvo. And so I'm sitting in my Toyota
515
00:27:25.430 --> 00:27:27.289
Corolla and I'm going down the road and I'm singing,
516
00:27:27.589 --> 00:27:30.589
I'm driving my new Volvo sedan now. I'm driving my
517
00:27:30.630 --> 00:27:34.009
new Volvo sedan. So, you know, trying to bring it
518
00:27:34.069 --> 00:27:37.130
to me with the universe, because actually a Volvo sedan
519
00:27:37.170 --> 00:27:41.170
is now cheaper than a Toyota. So, you know, that's
520
00:27:41.190 --> 00:27:44.750
what I'm doing. But it's important that you state it
521
00:27:44.869 --> 00:27:48.309
and to be detailed. You can't just say, oh, I
522
00:27:49.329 --> 00:27:54.900
want a house. OK, that's fine. But you but then
523
00:27:54.940 --> 00:27:56.900
that's just floating out there. You need to put a
524
00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:59.559
time frame on it. I want a house now. I
525
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:03.019
want a house tomorrow. And if you want something special
526
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:05.259
about it, like you want a two story house with
527
00:28:05.299 --> 00:28:08.599
a pool, you need to be specific. You can't just
528
00:28:08.660 --> 00:28:10.859
leave it float out there because you may get a house,
529
00:28:10.900 --> 00:28:13.980
but it may not be something that you would choose.
530
00:28:14.410 --> 00:28:17.009
So I think you have to be specific with those things.
531
00:28:17.650 --> 00:28:19.730
And I used to know a lady back in Tennessee
532
00:28:19.769 --> 00:28:22.690
that didn't have a car, didn't have any kind of transportation.
533
00:28:23.509 --> 00:28:27.190
And she went and bought like in the touristy areas
534
00:28:27.210 --> 00:28:30.549
where they do those custom airbrush license plate. She bought
535
00:28:30.630 --> 00:28:33.150
a license plate, just a license plate. And people are like,
536
00:28:33.170 --> 00:28:34.809
you know, you're silly. You don't even have a car
537
00:28:34.829 --> 00:28:36.990
to put it on. She's like, but I'm going to.
538
00:28:37.630 --> 00:28:38.119
And she did.
539
00:28:38.150 --> 00:28:40.099
She would get up every day. She would look at
540
00:28:40.130 --> 00:28:42.140
that license plate. She would hold it and look at it.
541
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:43.859
And she was very specific. I think it was a
542
00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:47.289
Chevy Camaro or something that she wanted. And she said,
543
00:28:47.309 --> 00:28:49.089
this is going to go on the front of my
544
00:28:49.150 --> 00:28:52.569
new Chevy Camaro. And sure enough, after a time, she
545
00:28:52.589 --> 00:28:54.450
got the car that she wanted and she put that
546
00:28:54.650 --> 00:28:55.390
on the front of it.
547
00:28:55.509 --> 00:28:56.390
And there you go.
548
00:28:56.990 --> 00:29:00.930
Yep. It is amazing. And, you know, this is something important, too.
549
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:04.220
that parents set the example of for their children, because
550
00:29:04.740 --> 00:29:07.839
if you really want your child to have a successful future,
551
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:10.940
you're doing the right things by feeding them well and
552
00:29:10.980 --> 00:29:13.029
making sure that they grow well and then giving them
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00:29:13.069 --> 00:29:16.160
the opportunity for an education, for a trade or a
554
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:19.410
skill or a profession. You're doing all of the right things,
555
00:29:19.630 --> 00:29:23.930
but really what makes their future outcome is how they
556
00:29:24.049 --> 00:29:26.470
speak and how they think and how they put out
557
00:29:26.509 --> 00:29:28.829
their words. So it's important to set a good example.
558
00:29:29.299 --> 00:29:31.259
Yeah, my dad used to pound that into my head
559
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:34.140
when I was little. It would upset him greatly if
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00:29:34.220 --> 00:29:37.529
I said I can't do anything. He'd say, well, you know,
561
00:29:37.569 --> 00:29:40.559
say I'll try. But in his respectability, to it, if
562
00:29:40.619 --> 00:29:42.779
I said I can't, he'd say I can't never did.
563
00:29:43.539 --> 00:29:46.779
So I learned, you know, early on, you don't say
564
00:29:46.819 --> 00:29:48.500
you can't if you don't know you can. You got
565
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:50.049
to try and see what you can do and at
566
00:29:50.089 --> 00:29:53.349
least do your best. And then I tried and I couldn't.
567
00:29:53.430 --> 00:29:56.230
But just saying I can't right off the bat, you've
568
00:29:56.250 --> 00:29:57.210
already admitted defeat.
569
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:00.309
That's true. That's very true. And you will have the
570
00:30:00.369 --> 00:30:03.650
defeat come back on you. So, yeah, it is important.
571
00:30:03.670 --> 00:30:07.809
You know, so many things in life, people were all
572
00:30:07.849 --> 00:30:10.789
kind of bobbing along, bobbing along in this, trying to
573
00:30:10.849 --> 00:30:13.769
figure it out. And you don't realize that that you
574
00:30:13.829 --> 00:30:17.490
can manifest your future instead of just bobbing along. And
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00:30:17.529 --> 00:30:19.150
that that's an important part, too.
576
00:30:19.170 --> 00:30:19.750
Yeah.
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00:30:19.890 --> 00:30:24.349
And I believe in it's not just in the Christian religion,
578
00:30:24.369 --> 00:30:27.609
but there's it's attended in a lot of religions throughout
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the world. You reap what you sow. You know, whatever
580
00:30:30.609 --> 00:30:32.730
you sow is going to come back to you. So,
581
00:30:32.819 --> 00:30:36.140
you know, if I sow a grain of corn, I'm
582
00:30:36.180 --> 00:30:37.799
not going to get a grain of corn back. I'm
583
00:30:37.819 --> 00:30:40.339
going to get a stalk. And on that stalk, there
584
00:30:40.380 --> 00:30:42.400
may be a dozen ears. And on each one of
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00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:45.299
those ears, there may be several hundred grains of corn.
586
00:30:45.740 --> 00:30:48.299
So you have to be cognizant of what you're sowing
587
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:50.549
because you're going to reap that crop whether you like
588
00:30:50.589 --> 00:30:50.980
it or not.
589
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:55.539
That's very, very true. And also as far as emotions go,
590
00:30:55.579 --> 00:30:58.880
emotions are even more powerful than thoughts because you feel
591
00:30:58.900 --> 00:31:01.980
the emotion sometimes before you even get the thought. So
592
00:31:02.019 --> 00:31:05.170
if you've got jealousy or harboring a little bit of
593
00:31:05.250 --> 00:31:07.890
something towards somebody, you need to stop because it will
594
00:31:07.930 --> 00:31:09.390
definitely come back at you as well.
595
00:31:10.410 --> 00:31:10.630
Yeah.
596
00:31:11.250 --> 00:31:14.309
And why set yourself up for failure when you can
597
00:31:14.349 --> 00:31:15.839
set yourself up for success?
598
00:31:16.299 --> 00:31:17.240
That's very true. Yeah.
599
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:21.839
Karma or whatever you want to call it, again, that's
600
00:31:21.940 --> 00:31:26.180
reaping and sowing, just whatever name you want to think
601
00:31:26.259 --> 00:31:31.740
of it by, just the way you treat people. I've
602
00:31:31.779 --> 00:31:34.000
heard it said that the way people treat you is
603
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:36.660
their karma and the way you react to it is yours.
604
00:31:36.809 --> 00:31:38.029
And I found that to be true.
605
00:31:38.619 --> 00:31:41.750
That's very, very true as well. And, you know, recently
606
00:31:41.829 --> 00:31:44.450
just we were talking, you kind of mentioned something about
607
00:31:44.569 --> 00:31:48.470
spirits being attracted to people and Recently, I've been working
608
00:31:48.509 --> 00:31:52.660
with Dr. Jerry Marvinsky on cases of people with schizophrenia
609
00:31:53.099 --> 00:31:57.339
and addiction. And because of my ability to have second sight,
610
00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:00.920
and this is written in my second book, if you'd
611
00:32:00.940 --> 00:32:02.880
like me to share the story about how I kind
612
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:08.349
of came up with this scenario that I validated through him,
613
00:32:08.430 --> 00:32:09.569
I'd be happy to share that.
614
00:32:12.549 --> 00:32:15.029
Oh, yes, please go right ahead. I mean, the Literally,
615
00:32:15.049 --> 00:32:17.210
the floor of the microphone is yours. You can talk
616
00:32:17.230 --> 00:32:18.980
about anything you want to talk about, Lynn.
617
00:32:19.500 --> 00:32:23.700
Okay, that sounds great. In my second book, Omnipresent, What
618
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:28.960
Happened Next, I do have a section on mental illness.
619
00:32:29.140 --> 00:32:32.509
And when I was older in life, I went back
620
00:32:32.660 --> 00:32:35.809
to college for the second time to further my degree
621
00:32:36.589 --> 00:32:39.230
in nursing. I also have a degree in biological science.
622
00:32:39.490 --> 00:32:42.349
And When I was in, we had gone to, I
623
00:32:42.730 --> 00:32:45.839
had had to take the class, my psychiatric class. And
624
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:47.559
of course we had to do a rotation through the
625
00:32:47.579 --> 00:32:52.740
psychiatric wards. And I had been placed with eight other students.
626
00:32:52.819 --> 00:32:55.700
We had gone to this one facility and we're all
627
00:32:55.779 --> 00:32:57.920
standing there in this area that we're in of this
628
00:32:57.980 --> 00:33:01.829
facility is the intake area. So there were patients that
629
00:33:01.849 --> 00:33:04.029
were just coming in. They were just trying to balance
630
00:33:04.049 --> 00:33:06.009
their meds and treat them and that sort of thing.
631
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:09.359
And there was this young lady that walked up to
632
00:33:09.420 --> 00:33:11.740
the group and she pointed at me and she said,
633
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:14.920
you can help me. I know you can. And of course,
634
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.069
in that moment, I'm like, oh, God, I hope she's
635
00:33:17.109 --> 00:33:19.970
not talking to me. You know, I'm looking over my
636
00:33:20.049 --> 00:33:22.990
shoulder and I'm like, you know, I'm thinking to myself,
637
00:33:23.009 --> 00:33:25.170
you know, I wanted to be Lynn the student nurse
638
00:33:25.210 --> 00:33:28.369
that day, not Lynn the weirdo. So the teacher had
639
00:33:28.430 --> 00:33:30.609
come along and ushered us out of the room and said,
640
00:33:30.650 --> 00:33:33.779
don't make eye contact, da, da, da, da, da. And
641
00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:36.640
we actually even had to sign papers in this facility
642
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:39.859
that we would if we got hit or bitten or
643
00:33:40.259 --> 00:33:43.829
hurt in some way that we wouldn't hold the facility responsible.
644
00:33:43.970 --> 00:33:47.509
And yeah, a friend of mine and I were placed
645
00:33:47.970 --> 00:33:54.119
back into this intake area. So my, my co, my
646
00:33:54.140 --> 00:33:57.099
co nurse, the student nurse and I, we were sitting there,
647
00:33:57.180 --> 00:33:59.640
they had picnic benches that were bolted to the floor
648
00:33:59.769 --> 00:34:02.069
and we were sitting at one of the picnic benches
649
00:34:02.569 --> 00:34:05.670
charting on our patients. They have segments of time where
650
00:34:05.710 --> 00:34:08.070
they have time with their social worker. They have time
651
00:34:08.389 --> 00:34:10.949
with their psychiatrists and then they go through group things
652
00:34:11.460 --> 00:34:15.639
where they get counseling and ours were in, in those groups.
653
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:18.690
So we were doing our charting and the young lady was,
654
00:34:19.969 --> 00:34:22.809
that initially saw us in the group walks over and
655
00:34:22.869 --> 00:34:26.170
she sits down with us and she starts talking about
656
00:34:26.230 --> 00:34:29.530
how she had been molested by her minister from age
657
00:34:29.530 --> 00:34:33.559
10 to 14 and then her mother had gotten remarried
658
00:34:33.699 --> 00:34:37.199
and then her stepfather started raping her and she ran
659
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:40.719
away at 16 and started devil worship and she realized
660
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:43.460
that that wasn't for her either but that she was
661
00:34:43.500 --> 00:34:46.789
hearing 25 different voices now and that was the reason
662
00:34:46.849 --> 00:34:50.420
for which she was in the unit And they were
663
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:55.139
diagnosing her with schizophrenia. One thing about mental illness is
664
00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:58.260
they really don't have scales to determine what you have.
665
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:00.909
There's not like blood work that you can do. More
666
00:35:00.929 --> 00:35:03.389
of it is just a checklist to check off what
667
00:35:03.429 --> 00:35:05.289
symptoms you have. And if you have more of one
668
00:35:05.309 --> 00:35:09.510
than the other, excuse me, then they diagnose you. And
669
00:35:09.550 --> 00:35:11.409
they like to put you on lots of medication that
670
00:35:11.429 --> 00:35:15.360
makes the stockholders happy. And sometimes the medication does worse
671
00:35:15.389 --> 00:35:19.400
things for you than good. So anyway, with that being said,
672
00:35:19.460 --> 00:35:21.320
I'm sitting next to her. She's talking about this and
673
00:35:21.340 --> 00:35:25.380
I'm looking at this woman and she is covered in
674
00:35:25.420 --> 00:35:28.639
claw marks coming out of her nose, coming out of
675
00:35:28.699 --> 00:35:31.769
her ear. She had them angled. What she was wearing
676
00:35:31.789 --> 00:35:34.710
was a pair of shorts and she had this tank
677
00:35:34.750 --> 00:35:37.570
type shirt on with little thin spaghetti straps. So her
678
00:35:37.630 --> 00:35:40.829
midriff was showing and part of her back was showing.
679
00:35:41.429 --> 00:35:45.909
And I'm saying claw marks because in my first book, Omnipresent,
680
00:35:46.250 --> 00:35:48.710
That house that I owned, a friend of mine was
681
00:35:48.789 --> 00:35:50.710
clawed to the point of bleeding on her back and
682
00:35:50.789 --> 00:35:53.050
stomach while we stood together in the kitchen of that
683
00:35:53.090 --> 00:35:57.500
house by a demon. So I'm recognizing them. They look
684
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.880
like cat scratches. And I'm looking at this woman and
685
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:04.199
some of the angles of these scratches, especially the ones
686
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:07.619
on her back, there is no way that she could
687
00:36:07.659 --> 00:36:10.469
have done that to herself unless she was some kind
688
00:36:10.489 --> 00:36:14.050
of a contortionist. And of course, the facility is telling
689
00:36:14.090 --> 00:36:17.219
her that she's self-administering these claw marks. And she was
690
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:20.079
even talking about, the patient was even talking about how
691
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:24.320
one of the voices had a very, very long nail
692
00:36:24.340 --> 00:36:26.679
that was scratching her on the inside of her female parts.
693
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:31.449
So she was then called away for her appointment with
694
00:36:31.489 --> 00:36:35.190
her social worker. And as she got up to walk away,
695
00:36:35.650 --> 00:36:37.530
she got about 10 feet away from me. And I'm
696
00:36:37.550 --> 00:36:40.849
looking at her and she has these attachments on her back.
697
00:36:41.699 --> 00:36:44.099
that literally looked like they were about the size of
698
00:36:44.139 --> 00:36:48.539
potatoes and misshapen like that. Some of them were inverted
699
00:36:48.579 --> 00:36:50.159
with the eyes on the bottom and the mouth on
700
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:52.780
the top or sideways, and they were all clustered together
701
00:36:52.820 --> 00:36:56.860
like grapes. On both sides of her back, they would
702
00:36:56.900 --> 00:37:00.400
have probably fit in a standard size pillowcase. That's how
703
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:04.199
much there was on her. And they seemed to be
704
00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:10.610
attached at her shoulders with these brownish tan type horn-looking
705
00:37:10.710 --> 00:37:14.170
things that were twisted that inserted at the top of
706
00:37:14.210 --> 00:37:17.070
her shoulders and then kind of went underneath her armpit.
707
00:37:18.010 --> 00:37:19.969
And I'm looking at her and I'm like, oh my God,
708
00:37:20.269 --> 00:37:23.699
you know, this woman really is hearing voices. She's got
709
00:37:23.739 --> 00:37:27.619
attachments on her back and I can see them. So
710
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:32.059
after about an hour or so, the lady returned and
711
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:33.940
I went to her room and I knocked on her
712
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:36.320
doorframe and I said to her, you know, she invited
713
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:38.530
me and I said to her, I said, look, what
714
00:37:38.570 --> 00:37:41.769
I'm about to tell you may sound crazy, but if
715
00:37:41.809 --> 00:37:45.230
you mention this, they're going to think you're crazier and
716
00:37:45.250 --> 00:37:47.230
they're going to keep you in here longer. And I
717
00:37:47.289 --> 00:37:48.969
want you to get out so that you can get help.
718
00:37:49.150 --> 00:37:52.489
I believe that you are hearing the 25 different voices
719
00:37:52.530 --> 00:37:55.199
because you have attachments on your back. And when you
720
00:37:55.260 --> 00:37:58.860
get out of here, excuse me, we've got construction across
721
00:37:58.900 --> 00:38:00.800
the street and they're blowing dust over here. It's making
722
00:38:00.820 --> 00:38:03.519
my throat tickle a little, so I'm sorry. So I
723
00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:08.090
mentioned to her that, um, you know, that this was happening.
724
00:38:08.219 --> 00:38:10.179
And she looked at me and her face kind of
725
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:13.639
got disgruntled and she turned almost in a huff because
726
00:38:14.059 --> 00:38:17.059
she was being influenced by the attachments that she had
727
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:20.219
on her who didn't want her talking to me, of course.
728
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:24.110
And when she turns, I normally would not have done
729
00:38:24.150 --> 00:38:26.389
this because there is a preparation that you have to
730
00:38:26.449 --> 00:38:29.289
do before removing attachments off of people in order to
731
00:38:29.349 --> 00:38:32.010
protect yourself so that they don't come home with you.
732
00:38:32.909 --> 00:38:35.829
And at the time I wasn't prepared, but something just
733
00:38:35.929 --> 00:38:38.570
overcame me. And I took my fingers and I kind
734
00:38:38.630 --> 00:38:41.449
of went up underneath those hook things on her shoulders
735
00:38:41.530 --> 00:38:45.250
and I pulled them off. And they immediately started separating
736
00:38:45.289 --> 00:38:47.130
and falling to the floor. And I'm trying to stomp
737
00:38:47.230 --> 00:38:49.309
as many as I can into the ground. And the
738
00:38:49.369 --> 00:38:52.320
woman turns around and she says, it felt like you
739
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:56.159
were pulling grass off my back. She didn't even know
740
00:38:56.179 --> 00:39:00.159
that I had removed those things. And I told her,
741
00:39:00.179 --> 00:39:03.429
I said, look, I've just pulled grass. a whole bunch
742
00:39:03.449 --> 00:39:05.929
of them off of your back. However, some have rolled
743
00:39:06.010 --> 00:39:07.829
over by your bed. I wasn't able to get all
744
00:39:07.869 --> 00:39:11.750
of them. They can reattach. However, when you get out
745
00:39:11.769 --> 00:39:14.090
of here, this is a temporary fix. When you get
746
00:39:14.210 --> 00:39:17.050
out of here, you need to go and find someone
747
00:39:17.469 --> 00:39:21.329
who can help you remove these, not only from your life,
748
00:39:21.409 --> 00:39:23.670
but from your environment. Because I'm sure in your home,
749
00:39:23.710 --> 00:39:27.210
there are things that need to be corrected as well
750
00:39:27.550 --> 00:39:30.309
in order to keep them from attaching to you again.
751
00:39:31.269 --> 00:39:33.269
So lo and behold, about a year later, a little
752
00:39:33.309 --> 00:39:36.670
over a year later, I was in Walmart, crouching down
753
00:39:36.710 --> 00:39:39.010
in the candle section, looking at candles. And these two
754
00:39:39.650 --> 00:39:41.889
young women are down at the end of the aisle,
755
00:39:41.949 --> 00:39:43.820
and I see one looking at me, and they're whispering
756
00:39:43.860 --> 00:39:46.340
to each other. So of course, I start checking my
757
00:39:46.389 --> 00:39:49.510
shoe for toilet paper and making sure my zipper is up.
758
00:39:50.219 --> 00:39:52.800
And I hear the one girl say to the other girl,
759
00:39:52.900 --> 00:39:55.099
I know that's her. So I'm like, oh, well, maybe
760
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:57.139
it's a fan, somebody that read my book. And so
761
00:39:57.199 --> 00:39:59.539
I stand up and the woman's walking over and she
762
00:39:59.579 --> 00:40:01.380
looks at me and she said, do you remember me?
763
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:06.000
And she looked familiar, but I couldn't place her because
764
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.940
the girl that I saw in the facility was being
765
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:11.900
so drained by the parasites on her back that she
766
00:40:11.940 --> 00:40:15.500
was an ashen color. She had very short hair. She
767
00:40:15.539 --> 00:40:18.650
was a little bit chunky. And the woman that was
768
00:40:18.690 --> 00:40:21.690
standing in front of me was this beautiful young woman
769
00:40:21.730 --> 00:40:24.659
with a little short blonde bob and her makeup on.
770
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:28.320
And she was slender. And I'm like, I'm sorry. I said,
771
00:40:28.380 --> 00:40:31.480
you look familiar to me, but I can't register your
772
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:33.739
name in my mind. And she said, you're the nurse.
773
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:36.940
You're the nurse that helped me. And the light bulb
774
00:40:36.980 --> 00:40:40.480
went on. And I'm like, oh, my God. I'm like, wow,
775
00:40:40.539 --> 00:40:42.420
look at you. And she said, I want to tell
776
00:40:42.460 --> 00:40:44.920
you that I got out like you told me and
777
00:40:44.980 --> 00:40:47.840
I went and I found somebody who helped me remove
778
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:52.699
the rest of my attachments. She said, and now I'm
779
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:55.489
off all of my schizophrenic meds and I'm only taking
780
00:40:55.550 --> 00:40:59.630
something occasionally for mild anxiety. And she was in her,
781
00:40:59.909 --> 00:41:02.210
she was going to school to become a dental hygienist.
782
00:41:02.769 --> 00:41:07.030
So this totally changed this woman's life. And the thing
783
00:41:07.070 --> 00:41:10.130
that I found out too with the mental illness is
784
00:41:10.210 --> 00:41:13.170
that we were placed in different areas in this facility
785
00:41:13.780 --> 00:41:16.469
at that time. And there was one room that they
786
00:41:16.530 --> 00:41:18.869
placed this in that was basically a room where people
787
00:41:18.909 --> 00:41:22.570
were dumped, literally dumped. Their families didn't come to see
788
00:41:22.610 --> 00:41:25.610
them anymore. They were considered crazy. They would end up
789
00:41:25.659 --> 00:41:28.360
living their lives out in this part of the facility.
790
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:31.139
And there was this little lady who was sitting at
791
00:41:31.179 --> 00:41:34.460
a round table and she was having some coffee and
792
00:41:34.500 --> 00:41:39.780
she was having this full conversation with the other three
793
00:41:39.860 --> 00:41:42.239
seats and the seats were empty, but I could see
794
00:41:42.260 --> 00:41:44.199
that there were spirits in the seat. And so she's
795
00:41:44.219 --> 00:41:47.320
having these full conversations with these other spirits in the seat.
796
00:41:48.230 --> 00:41:51.869
And it almost sounded like she was on a telephone
797
00:41:52.610 --> 00:41:56.170
and she was not talking vocabulary salad, like they claim
798
00:41:56.190 --> 00:41:59.150
the Schitzer Franks do. She was speaking full sentences and
799
00:41:59.190 --> 00:42:01.409
you could get the gist of what the response was
800
00:42:01.510 --> 00:42:04.309
from the spirits in By the way, she was responding.
801
00:42:04.329 --> 00:42:07.369
It was like a one-way phone conversation. And the nurse
802
00:42:07.409 --> 00:42:10.610
says to me, she says, oh, that's so-and-so. She's talking
803
00:42:10.630 --> 00:42:13.599
to things that aren't there again. And I'm thinking to myself, no,
804
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:16.980
you're wrong. She's talking to spirits that are sitting at
805
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:20.019
the table with her. And I really, really felt that,
806
00:42:20.059 --> 00:42:22.079
you know, I couldn't speak up and say anything because,
807
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.739
of course, I didn't want them to admit me. And
808
00:42:24.860 --> 00:42:28.050
as I started to walk around the facility, I started
809
00:42:28.090 --> 00:42:31.349
to notice that the people with the schizophrenia did, in fact,
810
00:42:31.369 --> 00:42:34.690
have attachments on them as well as the people that
811
00:42:34.710 --> 00:42:37.130
were there for addiction. They had a different type of
812
00:42:37.210 --> 00:42:41.139
attachment on them that I call an archon. And they
813
00:42:41.179 --> 00:42:46.059
look like crabs, spiders. They can be reptilian looking, sometimes
814
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:50.840
with a alligator-type tail or a human buttocks. The thing
815
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:54.480
about these attachments is that the head is very, very
816
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:56.820
small in proportion to the body, of which the body
817
00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:00.380
fits on like neat little backpacks on their backs. And
818
00:43:00.420 --> 00:43:02.590
it has a fin that goes from the top of
819
00:43:02.619 --> 00:43:07.079
the head to its nape that is floppy. It's the
820
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:11.019
shape of a shark fin, but it's floppy because they
821
00:43:12.139 --> 00:43:14.639
can detach and attach on walls and things like that
822
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:16.679
in people's homes and ceilings. And when they turn their
823
00:43:16.699 --> 00:43:19.659
head around, that thing kind of flaps over. So I
824
00:43:19.699 --> 00:43:22.639
started walking around the facility and I started picking out
825
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:25.119
the people with schizophrenia and the people with addiction. And
826
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:29.860
I would ask my fellow student people, I said, you know,
827
00:43:29.900 --> 00:43:32.889
by chance, is your patient have schizophrenia and they're like
828
00:43:32.909 --> 00:43:35.400
yeah yeah how'd you know and i only got it
829
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:38.900
wrong once because there was one person that was both
830
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:42.059
an addict and was hearing voices as well so it
831
00:43:42.099 --> 00:43:45.059
was a combination thing but it made me very very
832
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:48.030
interested in the fact that you know it's very very
833
00:43:48.090 --> 00:43:50.789
hard in the case of people even with addiction to
834
00:43:50.869 --> 00:43:54.610
recover from addiction because of these archons um the difference
835
00:43:54.710 --> 00:43:59.880
between schizophrenia and archons is schizophrenia does not invite the
836
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:03.920
um souls to attach. They're usually disembodied souls that are
837
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:08.400
controlled by something darker. Usually some trauma occurs in their life.
838
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:11.199
And as Cisco says, the cracks in the windshield, leave
839
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:13.349
it open for attachment. And that was the case of
840
00:44:13.389 --> 00:44:18.469
these people by no bringing it on themselves. Whereas the
841
00:44:18.610 --> 00:44:23.190
archons attach by invitation. They're welcomed in by a person's
842
00:44:23.369 --> 00:44:27.429
actions or their addiction and And it's something that, you know,
843
00:44:27.510 --> 00:44:31.429
it's hard to detach. And they constantly have to keep
844
00:44:31.550 --> 00:44:35.090
up with their program or whatever support system they have
845
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:40.920
because that Archon, it'll detach from them if they get
846
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:45.960
their addiction under control, but it never leaves their environment.
847
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:51.139
It's constantly there tempting them and taunting them to try
848
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:53.389
to take that drink or to go back and start
849
00:44:53.429 --> 00:44:57.179
taking that drug again because the Archon had a, had
850
00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:00.360
a good thing going and it was living off of
851
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:03.500
the negativity and the rippling effect that was created by
852
00:45:03.539 --> 00:45:06.679
the addiction, the job loss, the divorce, the fighting, the
853
00:45:06.739 --> 00:45:10.489
lack of money or any other circumstances that might be
854
00:45:10.510 --> 00:45:13.809
an infidelity that goes along with some of that. And
855
00:45:13.829 --> 00:45:16.349
of course, you know, they, they were, they were feeding
856
00:45:16.449 --> 00:45:19.809
on that because the negativity that radiates in situations like
857
00:45:19.869 --> 00:45:23.590
that is candy to them. It's like their chocolate. And, um,
858
00:45:24.420 --> 00:45:29.719
And people don't realize what they create for themselves in
859
00:45:29.989 --> 00:45:32.929
this situation like that. And it is extremely hard to
860
00:45:33.010 --> 00:45:36.969
stop an addiction once they've started because those things are
861
00:45:37.030 --> 00:45:40.349
still there trying to get them to get off track
862
00:45:40.389 --> 00:45:41.670
so that they can reattach.
863
00:45:44.469 --> 00:45:45.250
Yeah, I agree.
864
00:45:45.309 --> 00:45:47.829
And a lot of people don't really look into that.
865
00:45:47.869 --> 00:45:52.429
You don't think about addiction. The supernatural and mental illness,
866
00:45:52.469 --> 00:45:56.630
mental health or lack thereof being such a large component
867
00:45:56.690 --> 00:45:59.050
of each other. But I believe there are cases that
868
00:45:59.090 --> 00:46:03.969
are both. I've known people that worked as a psychiatric
869
00:46:04.010 --> 00:46:06.670
nurses that said, you know, some of these people have
870
00:46:07.230 --> 00:46:10.849
demonic activity around them. It's not just all in their heads.
871
00:46:11.610 --> 00:46:16.449
It manifests in what they see and hear things. It's very,
872
00:46:16.550 --> 00:46:21.119
very real. but it's not of this world necessarily. And
873
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:23.380
that's frightening when you think about it.
874
00:46:25.179 --> 00:46:25.679
It is.
875
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:28.219
My wife and I have been watching a show called Hoarders.
876
00:46:28.940 --> 00:46:30.340
And I said to her one night, I said, I
877
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:33.260
think some of these people have some sort of demonic
878
00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:37.300
attachment or affliction. I mean, people living in absolute filth,
879
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:42.360
animal feces up to their ankles. The houses are so
880
00:46:42.449 --> 00:46:45.789
packed with stuff that you can't walk from room to room.
881
00:46:45.809 --> 00:46:48.360
There was one where the stuff was piled so high
882
00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:50.860
they had to crawl to get through the doorway into
883
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:52.940
the other room. The doorway, you know, up the top
884
00:46:52.980 --> 00:46:55.300
of the, there's a high ceiling. There's a little place
885
00:46:55.340 --> 00:46:58.260
they crawl through. It's like a human habit trail or
886
00:46:58.300 --> 00:47:01.679
whatever you have for hamsters. But the place is so
887
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:04.349
filthy that the rats die in there. There's got to
888
00:47:04.369 --> 00:47:06.829
be something more than just a mental illness. I think
889
00:47:06.849 --> 00:47:08.690
there's a supernatural element to some.
890
00:47:08.570 --> 00:47:13.050
Of those diseases. Yep. I totally, totally agree with that.
891
00:47:13.170 --> 00:47:15.210
And the thing is too, is I have had a
892
00:47:15.230 --> 00:47:17.789
lot of people recently that have been contacting me that
893
00:47:17.809 --> 00:47:22.170
have heard me on the shows with Jerry and they're
894
00:47:22.210 --> 00:47:24.639
reaching out because they want to know whether they have
895
00:47:24.699 --> 00:47:28.340
attachments or not. And all of them have so far.
896
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:30.860
And the thing that I'm finding is, is the reason
897
00:47:30.900 --> 00:47:32.559
why I'm going to be writing a book on this
898
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:36.019
as well is the necessity for it is because people
899
00:47:36.059 --> 00:47:40.429
don't realize, you know, that, They expect, like even like
900
00:47:40.489 --> 00:47:43.110
I'm sure you've experienced too, even going in and clearing
901
00:47:43.170 --> 00:47:46.150
out hauntings and things like that. They expect for you
902
00:47:46.190 --> 00:47:49.070
just to come in and work miracles. But the thing is,
903
00:47:49.150 --> 00:47:52.090
is there's a life change that has to go with
904
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:55.760
it that they have to involve themselves in. That if
905
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:58.139
they don't do it, rolls out the red carpet for
906
00:47:58.179 --> 00:48:01.360
everything to come back. And not only that, but also
907
00:48:01.420 --> 00:48:05.440
I'm finding that when I have removed the attachments off
908
00:48:05.739 --> 00:48:12.559
of people, it elevates... their energy level to a higher level.
909
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:15.460
But the thing is, is because they've had those issues
910
00:48:15.539 --> 00:48:18.670
for so long, they're afraid of what's new and they
911
00:48:18.710 --> 00:48:22.329
have a tendency to dip back into what they're familiar with,
912
00:48:22.630 --> 00:48:28.090
which often brings the attachments back. And so it's really,
913
00:48:28.150 --> 00:48:30.610
really important. And like I said, I'm going to write
914
00:48:30.630 --> 00:48:32.929
this book. And like you said, talking about the hoarding,
915
00:48:33.349 --> 00:48:35.199
number one thing in that book is you need to
916
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:39.780
clean your house because they love the clutter, they love
917
00:48:40.059 --> 00:48:43.079
the filth, that sort of thing. You've got to clean
918
00:48:43.139 --> 00:48:48.980
out your house. You've got to get ready to move
919
00:48:49.110 --> 00:48:51.780
forward with that in a positive way once it's removed
920
00:48:51.909 --> 00:48:55.159
off of you. And also, you know, people don't realize
921
00:48:55.260 --> 00:48:57.860
too with the addiction and habits and things like that,
922
00:48:58.179 --> 00:49:01.659
you can go in and clear somebody's house of issues.
923
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:04.480
But if that spirit that is in the house is
924
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:08.179
addicted to something that you're addicted to, like porno or
925
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:11.550
gambling or something like that, it's not just drugs and alcohol.
926
00:49:12.230 --> 00:49:14.750
They would like to linger because they're your fan club
927
00:49:14.809 --> 00:49:19.230
now and they're watching it with you. So, people can't
928
00:49:19.269 --> 00:49:22.409
just expect people like us to come in and clear
929
00:49:22.510 --> 00:49:25.610
something if they're not willing to also do their part.
930
00:49:25.650 --> 00:49:28.409
It's almost a waste of our time to do that.
931
00:49:28.949 --> 00:49:35.300
And again, talking about this, people don't realize what we
932
00:49:35.340 --> 00:49:39.110
have to do to prepare ourselves before we go into
933
00:49:39.139 --> 00:49:44.409
a situation like that, because the attachments and the demons
934
00:49:44.469 --> 00:49:46.530
and the ghosts and whatever's in their house, and I
935
00:49:46.530 --> 00:49:48.510
have to say this, most of the time when people
936
00:49:48.550 --> 00:49:50.309
have a ghost in their house, the first thing they
937
00:49:50.349 --> 00:49:51.809
do is they call you and they say, I have
938
00:49:51.849 --> 00:49:55.690
a demon. But 99.9% of the time, it's not. It's
939
00:49:55.769 --> 00:49:59.469
usually a disembodied soul or poltergeist or elemental or something else.
940
00:50:00.269 --> 00:50:06.239
But the thing is, is that they don't realize... I
941
00:50:06.260 --> 00:50:08.219
just lost my train of thought, but they don't realize
942
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:11.329
what all that we have to do to prepare because
943
00:50:11.590 --> 00:50:15.469
those things don't want us there. And so when we're
944
00:50:15.489 --> 00:50:18.679
in that mode in their house, especially if there's some
945
00:50:18.699 --> 00:50:22.880
people whispering in the kitchen about they saw something, that also...
946
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:26.900
Is energy negatively going out that those things feed on
947
00:50:27.340 --> 00:50:29.929
and it enables them to do more physical acts because
948
00:50:29.949 --> 00:50:33.869
they become stronger with that negative emotion. And while we're
949
00:50:33.949 --> 00:50:38.289
in there trying to address those issues, we are constantly
950
00:50:38.429 --> 00:50:43.119
spiritually putting protection and shield around ourselves because we are
951
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:47.679
under constant attack while we're in there doing that. I mean,
952
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:51.340
I know after clearing people's houses, and I'm sure you've
953
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:55.400
experienced this too, I've literally slept 18 hours and only
954
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:57.489
gotten up to go to the bathroom and drink water
955
00:50:57.989 --> 00:51:02.090
because it's so exhausting. And people don't realize that. So
956
00:51:02.130 --> 00:51:04.889
when we come in to do these sorts of things,
957
00:51:05.150 --> 00:51:07.349
it is a risk for us, number one, that we
958
00:51:07.429 --> 00:51:10.590
carry something home. So we have a preparation that we
959
00:51:10.630 --> 00:51:12.869
have to do before we go and a preparation that
960
00:51:12.889 --> 00:51:15.659
we have to do to clear ourselves afterwards. So there's
961
00:51:15.699 --> 00:51:18.559
a lot of investment in our time to do that.
962
00:51:18.659 --> 00:51:21.920
So it's so important that people are serious. They really
963
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:23.619
want to get rid of these things. They have to
964
00:51:23.659 --> 00:51:27.250
be really, really serious and do their part. And they
965
00:51:27.289 --> 00:51:30.110
need to do it exactly. No shortcuts. They have to
966
00:51:30.150 --> 00:51:32.630
do it exactly the way because there aren't very many
967
00:51:32.690 --> 00:51:35.190
people for one that can help them with this. And
968
00:51:35.250 --> 00:51:37.070
most of the people, you know, will be put in
969
00:51:37.090 --> 00:51:39.949
the nuthouse if they even talk about it. So, yeah,
970
00:51:39.989 --> 00:51:40.679
they don't realize.
971
00:51:41.340 --> 00:51:43.780
And Cisco's talked about that. She's had people reach out
972
00:51:43.820 --> 00:51:46.570
to her. And then she'll either do it or assemble
973
00:51:46.630 --> 00:51:48.269
a team of people. She knows a lot of people
974
00:51:48.389 --> 00:51:51.489
all over the country and the world. But she has
975
00:51:51.530 --> 00:51:53.260
to talk to the person and say, listen, you've got
976
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:57.340
to be ready to follow instructions if you want rid
977
00:51:57.380 --> 00:51:57.619
of this.
978
00:51:57.679 --> 00:51:59.239
Otherwise, it's going to come back.
979
00:51:59.300 --> 00:52:03.059
And there was one example she talked about where somebody
980
00:52:03.099 --> 00:52:05.139
had gotten an attachment, I think playing with a Ouija
981
00:52:05.179 --> 00:52:08.059
board or something at a haunted bridge, brought something back
982
00:52:08.099 --> 00:52:11.179
home with them, scared them, and they wanted rid of it.
983
00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:14.690
So somebody that she sent was able to clear it out.
984
00:52:15.110 --> 00:52:18.389
But then whoever had brought that attachment in there, kind
985
00:52:18.429 --> 00:52:20.449
of like, I guess, missed it, for lack of a
986
00:52:20.489 --> 00:52:23.429
better word, and invited it back. And it came back
987
00:52:23.489 --> 00:52:25.789
and brought several others with it. And then here we
988
00:52:25.809 --> 00:52:28.170
go again. So you have to want it. You have
989
00:52:28.210 --> 00:52:30.969
to know that it doesn't belong there. And you have
990
00:52:31.010 --> 00:52:35.219
to close those doors, literally lock the doors and the windows.
991
00:52:35.860 --> 00:52:39.500
And you talked about cleaning a house. If you look
992
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:42.829
at it from a spiritual perspective, Your body is a temple.
993
00:52:42.909 --> 00:52:45.489
That's the house where your spirit lives. You have to
994
00:52:45.530 --> 00:52:49.360
clean that house out, too. And it's just it's amazing
995
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:52.480
the things that people can bring home through inanimate objects.
996
00:52:52.539 --> 00:52:55.440
My parents were antique dealers when I was a kid,
997
00:52:55.500 --> 00:52:58.000
and sometimes they would bring home an old piece of furniture.
998
00:52:58.659 --> 00:53:00.519
And most of the time, thankfully, it was stored in
999
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:03.039
the garage or in my dad's little warehouse that he had.
1000
00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:05.639
I couldn't wait for that piece to get out of
1001
00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:07.960
there and get to the antique shop.
1002
00:53:08.489 --> 00:53:09.510
Because I felt.
1003
00:53:09.510 --> 00:53:11.349
Whatever it had with it, like, you know, this is
1004
00:53:11.429 --> 00:53:13.389
no good, but you know, I was a little kid.
1005
00:53:13.429 --> 00:53:14.710
What I know, I wasn't going to try to tell
1006
00:53:14.750 --> 00:53:17.639
my parents, Oh, there's a demon attached to that bureau
1007
00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:20.000
or that mirror is haunted. You know, then I would
1008
00:53:20.019 --> 00:53:22.800
have sounded like I was crazy, but I just, I
1009
00:53:22.820 --> 00:53:25.340
knew to stay away from it. And that teaches you
1010
00:53:25.380 --> 00:53:28.179
to keep your guard up and to block these things
1011
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:31.699
off of you. Because like you said, it drains your,
1012
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:35.239
I guess, psychic battery when you do battle.
1013
00:53:34.980 --> 00:53:35.920
With things like that.
1014
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:39.789
And, I've known people that read tarot cards and told
1015
00:53:39.829 --> 00:53:42.329
fortunes and things. And they said, you know, after so
1016
00:53:42.389 --> 00:53:44.969
many times doing this, you just, you get to a
1017
00:53:44.969 --> 00:53:47.090
point where you're drained to the point that you can't
1018
00:53:47.130 --> 00:53:48.789
do it. You have to rest up and build your
1019
00:53:48.829 --> 00:53:51.510
reserves back up. And I think it's that way with
1020
00:53:51.570 --> 00:53:55.300
anything that has an edge of the supernatural, the paranormal.
1021
00:53:55.800 --> 00:54:00.280
It drains the medium or the vessel through all which
1022
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:01.059
this is working.
1023
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:03.969
I totally agree with you. And I'm really, really glad
1024
00:54:03.989 --> 00:54:07.429
that you brought up the thing about the physical body
1025
00:54:07.469 --> 00:54:12.769
being your temple. You know, we feed ourselves good food
1026
00:54:12.909 --> 00:54:15.690
and we go to the doctor to take care of ourselves.
1027
00:54:15.789 --> 00:54:20.170
And there's also another element to the physical body. There
1028
00:54:20.329 --> 00:54:22.809
is a field around you that's called the auric field.
1029
00:54:23.650 --> 00:54:26.690
For anybody listening, I know that you know about this, Steve.
1030
00:54:27.110 --> 00:54:29.610
And it's also important that you keep that clean and
1031
00:54:29.670 --> 00:54:32.750
clear and that you keep it so that, as Cisco says,
1032
00:54:32.789 --> 00:54:35.909
that there are no cracks in the windshield. And you
1033
00:54:35.949 --> 00:54:38.550
have to do this, you know, through prayer and through
1034
00:54:38.590 --> 00:54:41.389
bathing and things like that to make sure that you
1035
00:54:41.530 --> 00:54:44.880
keep it sealed and protected and strong. And people are
1036
00:54:44.940 --> 00:54:47.280
not aware of that. They go along in life and
1037
00:54:47.300 --> 00:54:50.980
they're never aware of it. And I know myself recently
1038
00:54:51.179 --> 00:54:56.139
when my sister passed away. because I was under a
1039
00:54:56.179 --> 00:54:58.639
lot of stress and I was in an element in
1040
00:54:58.699 --> 00:55:01.699
her house where there was a elemental and there were
1041
00:55:01.739 --> 00:55:04.739
some lost souls in there as well. But this elemental
1042
00:55:05.650 --> 00:55:07.730
was a whole nother ball game, which I'll tell you
1043
00:55:07.769 --> 00:55:10.829
about in a little bit. But what I was noticing was,
1044
00:55:10.909 --> 00:55:12.929
is one of her friends came to me and she said,
1045
00:55:12.949 --> 00:55:16.090
I think my son has an attachment. So, and he did.
1046
00:55:16.829 --> 00:55:18.530
So I took it off of him and the thing
1047
00:55:18.570 --> 00:55:22.289
attached to me because I hadn't been taking care of
1048
00:55:22.429 --> 00:55:25.900
my field And because of the lack of sleep and
1049
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:28.809
the duress that I was under with my sister passing,
1050
00:55:29.309 --> 00:55:31.789
and she didn't have any end-of-life directives or a will,
1051
00:55:31.869 --> 00:55:34.889
so it was total chaos dealing with the house. And
1052
00:55:34.909 --> 00:55:37.090
she had an aviary with 100 birds that I had
1053
00:55:37.130 --> 00:55:40.739
to place in five days. So I ended up coming
1054
00:55:40.780 --> 00:55:43.139
home with an attachment that wasn't mine that I had
1055
00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:46.940
to have somebody else remove. And so even, you know,
1056
00:55:47.019 --> 00:55:51.739
we have to be consistent with our caring for animals
1057
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:54.800
not only our physical body and our environment, but also
1058
00:55:54.900 --> 00:55:58.840
for our field, especially if you're an empath, to keep
1059
00:55:58.889 --> 00:56:01.070
it so that When you do get near, I mean,
1060
00:56:01.090 --> 00:56:03.269
you could be standing next to somebody in a grocery
1061
00:56:03.309 --> 00:56:05.070
store and you can see one of these willowy leg
1062
00:56:05.110 --> 00:56:07.550
things coming off of them and you're like, woo, you know,
1063
00:56:07.570 --> 00:56:10.050
you lean away from it, you miss that one. But
1064
00:56:10.090 --> 00:56:14.239
they're constantly looking for new people to attach on and
1065
00:56:14.300 --> 00:56:16.360
they can attach on you if you do have the
1066
00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:19.340
cracks in the windshield and surgeries will also cause that.
1067
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:22.300
So it's so important that when your skin is cut,
1068
00:56:22.340 --> 00:56:24.730
that your arc field also is cut. so that you
1069
00:56:24.769 --> 00:56:27.730
take care and you do things. If you're not able
1070
00:56:27.769 --> 00:56:33.340
to bathe, you can get the drums that the Indians
1071
00:56:33.539 --> 00:56:37.039
use and do that percussion sound over with the vibration
1072
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:40.619
works well as well as the singing bowls that they
1073
00:56:40.659 --> 00:56:44.079
have also creates that, that will help, you know, on
1074
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:47.750
a temporary basis, you know, to keep you from having things.
1075
00:56:47.769 --> 00:56:53.869
Sound, vibrations, music. there's all kinds of things that can
1076
00:56:54.090 --> 00:56:58.849
affect just the world around you and affect you. And
1077
00:56:59.369 --> 00:57:03.570
I had Midwest Night Watchers, Gerald and his wife, Jane,
1078
00:57:03.590 --> 00:57:06.769
who has a channel called Chiro Sounds. And she's into
1079
00:57:06.789 --> 00:57:08.210
a lot of the natural sounds.
1080
00:57:08.469 --> 00:57:12.579
The 432 kilohertz. I think it is. It's a healing, the.
1081
00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:16.599
Human resonance, which the earth and all living things vibrate at.
1082
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:19.840
And she talked about how, you know, that just by
1083
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:23.449
making certain sounds and, vibrations there you can attract good
1084
00:57:23.570 --> 00:57:26.289
and bad things because they hear that and it's like
1085
00:57:26.349 --> 00:57:29.639
a signal those sound waves carry and you can bring
1086
00:57:29.739 --> 00:57:32.760
something to you that you hadn't even intended on by
1087
00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:34.900
literally playing the wrong sounds.
1088
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:38.599
That's absolutely that's absolutely true and you know the things
1089
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:41.889
that i see lingering in the periphery um even at
1090
00:57:41.929 --> 00:57:44.570
the time when when people and when i've been working
1091
00:57:44.690 --> 00:57:49.889
and people have been actively transitioning into to death um
1092
00:57:50.769 --> 00:57:54.409
They come forward. They see the people's loved ones and angels,
1093
00:57:54.449 --> 00:57:57.050
and they're also galactic beings. So I'll tell you about
1094
00:57:57.090 --> 00:58:02.309
that too. But so there is a galactic element and
1095
00:58:02.389 --> 00:58:05.789
everybody's right. So nobody's wrong here. It all comes together.
1096
00:58:05.849 --> 00:58:10.380
It's all connected. But they will come forward because they're curious.
1097
00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:16.500
I've had many, many experiences with that. Some dark things
1098
00:58:16.539 --> 00:58:19.949
sometimes come forward too, especially... for soul kind of like
1099
00:58:20.010 --> 00:58:22.570
a soul harvesting and the case in elementals too, they
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00:58:22.610 --> 00:58:27.070
harvest souls sometimes. Um, especially the one at my sister's
1101
00:58:27.110 --> 00:58:30.320
house did cause he comes prepared with his bounding balloons
1102
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:32.599
of a P a ring of people that he carries
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00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:37.039
with him. But, um, it is, they do come forward
1104
00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:39.780
because there is a sound and a vibration to, to
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00:58:39.820 --> 00:58:43.179
that as well. And, um, I've seen a lot of
1106
00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:47.239
things that way as people are getting ready to transition.
1107
00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:50.280
And I'd love to tell you about death and dying,
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00:58:50.340 --> 00:58:50.820
if you'd like.
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00:58:53.860 --> 00:58:54.559
Yeah, please do.
1110
00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:57.320
I have my mic muted, so sometimes there's a pause between,
1111
00:58:57.340 --> 00:59:00.590
because I've got noisy neighbors here above and below, so
1112
00:59:00.610 --> 00:59:02.670
I'm making sure nothing bleeds through.
1113
00:59:02.690 --> 00:59:04.150
But yeah, please do. I'd love to hear.
1114
00:59:04.710 --> 00:59:09.070
Okay. The thing about, first of all, there are three
1115
00:59:09.090 --> 00:59:12.079
kinds of death. There is a natural death, which most
1116
00:59:12.139 --> 00:59:16.099
of us have. There's sudden death, and there's a near-death experience,
1117
00:59:16.199 --> 00:59:19.800
and all of those are handled differently on the other side,
1118
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:23.300
and the thing that I've learned about patients in my
1119
00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:27.090
profession is that A lot of times when they're going
1120
00:59:27.130 --> 00:59:30.989
into that natural death, they know that they're going to
1121
00:59:31.030 --> 00:59:34.469
die and they start talking about it. They'll say things like, oh, well, so-and-so,
1122
00:59:34.550 --> 00:59:36.699
you know, if something happens to me, will you take
1123
00:59:36.739 --> 00:59:39.619
care of my cat? Or will you make so-and-so, make
1124
00:59:39.659 --> 00:59:42.719
sure that so-and-so gets this? Or they'll even talk about
1125
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:46.960
the fact that they're going home. And my mother, for instance,
1126
00:59:47.300 --> 00:59:50.280
I'll use her as a for instance example. Before my
1127
00:59:50.340 --> 00:59:53.969
mother passed away, she was going around the facility, the
1128
00:59:54.010 --> 00:59:57.730
hospice facility that she was in, telling people that I'm
1129
00:59:57.750 --> 01:00:00.449
going to go home tomorrow. And she was telling them goodbye.
1130
01:00:00.570 --> 01:00:02.760
And she also told one lady that it had her
1131
01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:06.980
dog put down three days later, that she would keep
1132
01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:09.340
the dog for her on the other side until the
1133
01:00:09.380 --> 01:00:12.539
lady could transition over. And yes, people, your pets do
1134
01:00:12.579 --> 01:00:17.010
cross over too, until she could get there. And lo
1135
01:00:17.050 --> 01:00:20.500
and behold, my mother, she did pass away around 1, 1.30
1136
01:00:20.500 --> 01:00:24.039
in the afternoon the very, very next day. But the
1137
01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:27.320
thing about people, too, that they don't realize is that
1138
01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:33.309
when a person is dying, they go through periods of
1139
01:00:33.369 --> 01:00:36.789
time where the lights are on, basically, but nobody's home
1140
01:00:36.829 --> 01:00:38.429
and they're very hard to rouse. And then all of
1141
01:00:38.469 --> 01:00:40.829
a sudden they'll pop back in. We call this rallying
1142
01:00:40.889 --> 01:00:43.909
in the medical field. Their eyes will brighten, their toes
1143
01:00:43.929 --> 01:00:46.159
will perk. They'll start talking about things that they've seen
1144
01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:49.260
on the other side. They'll start talking about seeing loved
1145
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:51.300
ones in the room. They might even be talking about
1146
01:00:51.340 --> 01:00:55.900
people that you don't realize, you know, that the person
1147
01:00:55.920 --> 01:01:00.130
in the room doesn't recognize, but the soul will recognize
1148
01:01:00.730 --> 01:01:06.070
once they cross over. So anyway, with that being said,
1149
01:01:06.309 --> 01:01:11.019
a lot of times too, people... they leave their bodies early.
1150
01:01:11.059 --> 01:01:13.539
The spirit will leave the body early, sometimes even a
1151
01:01:13.579 --> 01:01:17.800
day before, and then the physical body's just left to finish,
1152
01:01:18.599 --> 01:01:21.199
or they choose to stay in until the very last minute.
1153
01:01:21.340 --> 01:01:24.519
And in my mother's case, she chose to stay in
1154
01:01:24.659 --> 01:01:28.619
until the last minute. And this was evident by even
1155
01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:31.219
though the fact that my mother could no longer verbalize
1156
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:34.190
and she could no longer open her eyes to she
1157
01:01:34.230 --> 01:01:36.880
would move her eyebrows up and down and she would
1158
01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:40.969
try to mouth words. And it was appropriate. People would
1159
01:01:41.010 --> 01:01:43.000
come in and say, hi, Phyllis. And she would move
1160
01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:45.139
her mouth and her eyebrows up and down. Or if
1161
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:47.619
you spoke with her at all, she would do it.
1162
01:01:48.340 --> 01:01:51.340
And the thing was, is I was alone in the
1163
01:01:51.380 --> 01:01:56.900
room with her when she was transitioning. And the opposite
1164
01:01:56.940 --> 01:01:58.840
side of the room started to fill up with the
1165
01:01:58.940 --> 01:02:02.980
ectoplasmic misting on the other side, which is the portal
1166
01:02:03.019 --> 01:02:07.010
that they that most spiritual things enter in through both
1167
01:02:07.050 --> 01:02:10.320
good and bad. And I could see movement on the
1168
01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:12.900
other side. Sometimes I could see a pant leg stick
1169
01:02:13.139 --> 01:02:17.300
out or a shoulder stick out. And yes, people, they
1170
01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:20.199
do show up in clothes. Nobody wants to see their
1171
01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:23.920
mother naked meeting them to help them transition over. Everybody
1172
01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:26.170
would be covering their eyes like mom put clothes on.
1173
01:02:26.849 --> 01:02:38.199
And they usually do present And I don't mean in
1174
01:02:38.239 --> 01:02:41.389
a sickly way. If somebody's had cancer and they become,
1175
01:02:42.150 --> 01:02:45.730
you know, emancipated, you'll remember them as the last healthy
1176
01:02:45.789 --> 01:02:48.750
state that you have seen them in. So as I'm
1177
01:02:48.809 --> 01:02:51.489
sitting in this room, this misting is floor to ceiling,
1178
01:02:51.530 --> 01:02:56.190
wall to wall. And I noticed that there's an opening
1179
01:02:56.309 --> 01:02:59.780
starting up near my mother's head of her bed. And
1180
01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:02.320
I'm watching. And all of a sudden, I see my grandmother,
1181
01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:06.420
my mother's mother step in. And she walks over to
1182
01:03:06.460 --> 01:03:08.840
the side of my mother's bed opposite of where I'm
1183
01:03:08.900 --> 01:03:12.230
standing and sitting and holding my mom's arm. And she
1184
01:03:12.269 --> 01:03:15.449
starts stroking the inside of my mother's arm. My mother's
1185
01:03:15.489 --> 01:03:20.230
sitting at a slant. And when she leaned forward to
1186
01:03:20.550 --> 01:03:23.250
whisper something or say something in my mother's ear, my
1187
01:03:23.289 --> 01:03:27.940
mother started doing the mouthing and the eyebrow thing in
1188
01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:31.239
response to whatever my grandmother was saying. And the thing is,
1189
01:03:31.300 --> 01:03:35.460
is when people start to transition, the filters start to efface.
1190
01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:39.219
So they're able to hear the telepathy of the spiritual
1191
01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:42.579
side as well as they can still hear the physical
1192
01:03:42.820 --> 01:03:48.900
verbalization on the physical side. So behind my grandmother's head,
1193
01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:51.579
I see this frantic wave. And it was my beautiful
1194
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:55.139
sister Robin that was murdered when she was 21 by
1195
01:03:55.159 --> 01:03:59.329
a jealous boyfriend. And her perfume was filled the room.
1196
01:03:59.449 --> 01:04:02.070
She had an unusual perfume that she wore back in
1197
01:04:02.110 --> 01:04:06.449
the 80s called Latisse. And I could just smell her.
1198
01:04:06.650 --> 01:04:10.059
And she came from around the misting over to where
1199
01:04:10.139 --> 01:04:12.579
I was sitting at that point next to my mom's bed.
1200
01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:15.559
And she embraced me. I could feel her long hair
1201
01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:18.280
falling over my face. I could feel her touching me.
1202
01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:21.130
I could feel her essence. And she smelled so good.
1203
01:04:21.809 --> 01:04:26.670
And then she went back around the room and the
1204
01:04:26.710 --> 01:04:28.989
whole wall at the face. So I'm actually able to
1205
01:04:29.110 --> 01:04:32.030
see into the other side. And they had prepared this
1206
01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:36.960
beautiful reception for my mother. There are colors on the
1207
01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:41.119
other side that we would need 10 different color wheels
1208
01:04:41.260 --> 01:04:43.800
to even accommodate. My new favorite color is over there,
1209
01:04:43.820 --> 01:04:45.730
by the way, and there's no way to describe it.
1210
01:04:46.739 --> 01:04:50.449
And the lighting over there seemed to admit from the
1211
01:04:50.510 --> 01:04:53.829
atmosphere itself, there didn't appear to be like a lighting source,
1212
01:04:53.869 --> 01:04:56.460
but the lighting was just perfect. You didn't have to squint,
1213
01:04:56.500 --> 01:04:59.519
but yet you could see everything so well. And there
1214
01:04:59.539 --> 01:05:02.420
were all of these people here in there waiting to
1215
01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:07.570
greet her. in the room as well as angels. And
1216
01:05:07.590 --> 01:05:10.389
I had mentioned the galactic beings because there were other
1217
01:05:10.429 --> 01:05:15.860
beings there that appeared to be from somewhere else. They
1218
01:05:15.900 --> 01:05:19.440
were radiant and beautiful and very, very tall with white hair.
1219
01:05:19.519 --> 01:05:22.320
As a matter of fact, the ceilings were 10 feet
1220
01:05:22.360 --> 01:05:26.519
tall and they were being capped by the ceiling, like
1221
01:05:26.539 --> 01:05:29.380
at the top of what we would call a brow line.
1222
01:05:30.059 --> 01:05:31.679
And I don't know if they were male or female,
1223
01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:36.440
it didn't matter. They were just gorgeous. And thinking about that,
1224
01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:40.400
with all of the sunshines that there are, all of
1225
01:05:40.460 --> 01:05:42.969
the stars, I'm sorry, there are in the sky that
1226
01:05:43.030 --> 01:05:45.750
are sunshines for other solar systems, it would be ignorant
1227
01:05:45.769 --> 01:05:48.070
on our part to think that there weren't other beings
1228
01:05:48.250 --> 01:05:53.190
in other solar systems elsewhere. And of course, we are energy,
1229
01:05:53.829 --> 01:05:57.010
and energy from a scientific point of view can't be
1230
01:05:57.090 --> 01:06:01.880
created or destroyed. And when those beings finish out their
1231
01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:04.380
tour of lifetime where they're at, they also have to
1232
01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:06.860
have someplace else to go to, but I'm not talking
1233
01:06:06.929 --> 01:06:12.090
about like cryptid bug looking things. These are beautiful, beautiful, um, very,
1234
01:06:12.150 --> 01:06:17.869
very high level intelligent, um, beings. And they were also there, but, um,
1235
01:06:18.570 --> 01:06:22.130
my mother, uh, my grandmother leaned forward three different times
1236
01:06:22.230 --> 01:06:25.780
to my mother and was talking in her ear. And
1237
01:06:25.820 --> 01:06:29.969
my mother of course responded and, um, I told my
1238
01:06:30.010 --> 01:06:32.599
mother at that time. And again, too, I want to
1239
01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:35.139
mention that, you know, I'm looking at the people there.
1240
01:06:35.179 --> 01:06:37.880
There were some people there that I recognized from this lifetime,
1241
01:06:37.960 --> 01:06:40.380
you know, cousins and uncles and things that had passed
1242
01:06:40.440 --> 01:06:43.219
away ahead of time. And there were people there that
1243
01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:46.050
I didn't know and recognize. But of course, my mother,
1244
01:06:46.110 --> 01:06:49.769
when she crossed over, she knew everybody. So I said
1245
01:06:49.809 --> 01:06:52.170
to my mom, I said, Mom, I love you. I'm
1246
01:06:52.190 --> 01:06:54.389
going to be OK. It's time for you to go home.
1247
01:06:55.579 --> 01:06:59.059
Grandma and Robin are here to help you transition over.
1248
01:06:59.139 --> 01:07:02.039
And she mouthed and did the eyebrow thing up and down.
1249
01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:06.139
And then within about 10 minutes, she took her last breath.
1250
01:07:07.190 --> 01:07:12.710
So I'm sitting in this elation and this magnificent feeling
1251
01:07:12.929 --> 01:07:18.230
of love and joy coming my way. And when you
1252
01:07:18.309 --> 01:07:20.449
sit in it, there are no words that can describe it.
1253
01:07:20.469 --> 01:07:24.179
There's no earthly feeling that can touch it. But you
1254
01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:28.550
can't help but smile. It's just, you can't help it
1255
01:07:29.150 --> 01:07:31.389
but smile. And even having the tears come to your
1256
01:07:31.469 --> 01:07:34.829
eyes because it's so beautiful. And I'm sitting there feeling
1257
01:07:34.909 --> 01:07:38.510
all of this elation. And I'm noticing, before I noticed
1258
01:07:38.550 --> 01:07:41.949
that my mother had stopped breathing, this group of beings
1259
01:07:42.090 --> 01:07:44.940
that were huddling towards the head of her bed, kind
1260
01:07:44.980 --> 01:07:48.090
of like in a football huddle. And when they opened up,
1261
01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:50.639
my mother's spirit was standing in the center, kind of
1262
01:07:50.659 --> 01:07:54.349
like they were trying to stabilize her spiritual feet. And
1263
01:07:54.389 --> 01:07:57.349
of course, all of the people started coming up to
1264
01:07:57.409 --> 01:08:00.489
greet her. And she was so happy and elated to
1265
01:08:00.570 --> 01:08:02.960
see them. And of course, then I look over, I
1266
01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:05.579
noticed that she has stopped breathing. And to be she's
1267
01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:08.539
not dead, because I can see her right there. And
1268
01:08:09.059 --> 01:08:12.090
I'm realizing, oh, my God, you know, if the nurse
1269
01:08:12.130 --> 01:08:15.190
walks in, and I'm sitting here grinning from ear to ear,
1270
01:08:15.820 --> 01:08:18.699
And my mother's just died and stopped breathing. She's that's
1271
01:08:18.739 --> 01:08:21.039
not a normal response. You know, she might think that
1272
01:08:21.079 --> 01:08:23.180
I did something to her, like put a pillow over
1273
01:08:23.220 --> 01:08:26.939
her head or something. So I called the nurse. The
1274
01:08:26.979 --> 01:08:30.250
nurse did come in. She walked through the festivities that
1275
01:08:30.289 --> 01:08:32.630
we were going on in the spiritual level. They didn't
1276
01:08:32.670 --> 01:08:34.930
seem to even be affected by it at all. And
1277
01:08:34.989 --> 01:08:38.010
she pronounced that my mother had passed. I asked her
1278
01:08:38.029 --> 01:08:40.069
at that time, I said, you know, can I stay
1279
01:08:40.090 --> 01:08:42.760
in the room with my mom? for a little while
1280
01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:45.020
because I wanted to see what was going to what
1281
01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:47.359
else was going to happen because I'm sitting here watching
1282
01:08:47.420 --> 01:08:50.390
all of this. And, and of course the nurse said
1283
01:08:50.430 --> 01:08:52.470
you know okay and so I'm sitting there and this
1284
01:08:52.550 --> 01:08:57.649
literally continued on for about 20 minutes, our time and
1285
01:08:57.689 --> 01:09:00.739
I say our time because the time on the other side,
1286
01:09:00.979 --> 01:09:04.979
there is not time. We have linear time here. We're
1287
01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:08.189
more time oriented. In my book, Colors of Heaven, I
1288
01:09:08.350 --> 01:09:11.649
did make mention in the book that a day there
1289
01:09:11.710 --> 01:09:15.670
is equivalent to 29 years only because the people that
1290
01:09:15.729 --> 01:09:18.250
are reading it have to have something more linear and
1291
01:09:18.680 --> 01:09:21.699
to understand time over there, of the shortness of the
1292
01:09:21.739 --> 01:09:25.359
time that we're gone from there and returning from their
1293
01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:27.810
point of view, from the spirit world point of view.
1294
01:09:28.270 --> 01:09:30.869
So there really is no time frame there, but I
1295
01:09:30.930 --> 01:09:33.850
wanted for them to understand that it's a very, very
1296
01:09:33.930 --> 01:09:36.550
long time for us and a very, very short time
1297
01:09:36.609 --> 01:09:41.619
for them, and that the time frames are different. So anyway,
1298
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:44.300
I'm sitting here watching all of this, and of course
1299
01:09:44.399 --> 01:09:47.069
the people that had come in to greet her started
1300
01:09:47.109 --> 01:09:52.069
to thin out. And my mother started to go with
1301
01:09:52.130 --> 01:09:55.970
my sister and my grandmother heading towards me to exit
1302
01:09:55.989 --> 01:09:58.380
the room along with these five other beings, one of
1303
01:09:58.439 --> 01:10:01.500
which was that beautiful galactic being that appeared to be
1304
01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:04.460
on the level of angels but did not have wings.
1305
01:10:05.399 --> 01:10:07.779
And the thing is, for me, the way that I
1306
01:10:07.840 --> 01:10:11.640
see spirits is that when I see them out of
1307
01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:14.670
my peripheral vision, I can see them as clear as
1308
01:10:14.729 --> 01:10:16.489
I can see you. I can tell you what they
1309
01:10:16.529 --> 01:10:18.359
have on. I can tell you even what their eye
1310
01:10:18.420 --> 01:10:21.220
color is, if they're close enough and that sort of thing.
1311
01:10:21.939 --> 01:10:25.479
When they're in front of me, they appear to me
1312
01:10:25.539 --> 01:10:28.979
the same way as if someone were in a parking
1313
01:10:29.020 --> 01:10:31.449
lot during a sunny day and they're walking forward in
1314
01:10:31.489 --> 01:10:34.109
a mall to say the JCPenney store with those big
1315
01:10:34.149 --> 01:10:37.350
plate glass windows and they see their own reflection. It
1316
01:10:37.390 --> 01:10:40.989
appears kind of opaque. That's how I see spirits. They
1317
01:10:41.050 --> 01:10:43.890
look to me from a distance in front of me.
1318
01:10:44.050 --> 01:10:46.130
And when they're very, very close to me and in
1319
01:10:46.189 --> 01:10:49.130
front of me, I see a waffling to the air,
1320
01:10:49.630 --> 01:10:53.449
like heat vapors coming off of a road or gas fumes.
1321
01:10:54.029 --> 01:10:58.479
And so as these spirits started to walk past me, um, I,
1322
01:10:59.539 --> 01:11:02.939
I recognized my mother's legs because at that point they
1323
01:11:02.960 --> 01:11:06.659
were all in that waffling stage. And, um, but I
1324
01:11:06.699 --> 01:11:09.399
could see her lower half and my mother had gorgeous legs.
1325
01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:11.930
And so I recognize her legs and she's passing me.
1326
01:11:11.949 --> 01:11:14.750
And each one of them made contact with my head
1327
01:11:14.810 --> 01:11:18.010
that felt tingly. And, um, and they went ahead and
1328
01:11:18.050 --> 01:11:22.550
they left and, you know, I've never grieved the loss
1329
01:11:22.590 --> 01:11:24.829
of my mother because for one, I know where she is.
1330
01:11:24.869 --> 01:11:27.710
And to me, she's not dead. She is in communication
1331
01:11:27.770 --> 01:11:29.710
with me while we're here. And I can tell you
1332
01:11:29.729 --> 01:11:34.439
some funny things about that too. But, um, I, I've
1333
01:11:34.539 --> 01:11:38.579
never ever, uh, felt that she was gone. She's still
1334
01:11:38.659 --> 01:11:40.619
very much a part of me, very much a part
1335
01:11:40.659 --> 01:11:42.840
of my life. And it helped me so much to
1336
01:11:42.899 --> 01:11:45.920
know that she wasn't dead and to see how happy
1337
01:11:46.020 --> 01:11:49.180
she was and how whole she was as she went
1338
01:11:49.279 --> 01:11:52.989
to cross over. One of the funny things that she
1339
01:11:53.050 --> 01:11:56.289
had made mention of is there was one point that, well,
1340
01:11:56.329 --> 01:11:59.970
two things actually. Normally my mother would fix the turkey
1341
01:11:59.989 --> 01:12:04.569
for Thanksgiving and she passed away in July. So the
1342
01:12:04.750 --> 01:12:08.779
turkey fell down on me to prepare. And I had
1343
01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:12.979
never made one before. So I started looking on Google,
1344
01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:15.689
and I'm preparing this turkey trying to be all fancy.
1345
01:12:15.729 --> 01:12:18.489
And all of a sudden, I hear my mother come
1346
01:12:18.510 --> 01:12:21.869
through like a megaphone. And she says, Don't forget the
1347
01:12:21.930 --> 01:12:27.569
aluminum foil. And I'm like, don't need aluminum foil. I
1348
01:12:27.590 --> 01:12:29.770
want one of those nice brown turkeys like the ones
1349
01:12:29.850 --> 01:12:33.750
on TV. And I found out very quickly that my
1350
01:12:33.810 --> 01:12:36.510
breasts got burnt, my legs were still raw. And then
1351
01:12:36.550 --> 01:12:40.760
I needed the the aluminum foil to even out the
1352
01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:44.720
cooking of the turkey. So we ended up having hamburgers
1353
01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:47.899
that year for Thanksgiving. But there was another thing that
1354
01:12:47.979 --> 01:12:50.539
she also made mention that a lot of people ask
1355
01:12:50.619 --> 01:12:53.260
about was food. You know, we enjoy eating here. So
1356
01:12:53.340 --> 01:12:56.750
I asked her one time, I said, Mom, don't you
1357
01:12:56.810 --> 01:13:00.050
ever miss the taste of the brownies that you used
1358
01:13:00.090 --> 01:13:02.829
to make or potato salad or the barbecued ribs? And
1359
01:13:02.930 --> 01:13:05.609
she immediately comes through like a megaphone and she says,
1360
01:13:06.310 --> 01:13:09.529
we don't eat here. I said, yeah, I know, I know.
1361
01:13:09.609 --> 01:13:12.939
She says, but we do everything by thought. She said,
1362
01:13:12.989 --> 01:13:16.579
for instance, if we want to go somewhere, we think
1363
01:13:16.619 --> 01:13:19.579
of it and we're instantly there. She said, if we
1364
01:13:19.640 --> 01:13:22.520
want to, you know, be around our loved ones, which
1365
01:13:22.560 --> 01:13:25.880
is another thing, they're able to be six places simultaneously.
1366
01:13:26.310 --> 01:13:28.609
I've had this verified not only by her, but also
1367
01:13:28.670 --> 01:13:31.460
my father who had a near-death experience and other people.
1368
01:13:32.399 --> 01:13:35.279
So they can be present with you and another family
1369
01:13:35.319 --> 01:13:38.800
member at the same time. So she was talking about that.
1370
01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:41.359
And she said, but since we do everything by thought,
1371
01:13:42.180 --> 01:13:45.659
if we want to experience a food here from any
1372
01:13:45.739 --> 01:13:48.649
other place that we've ever been, for that matter, all
1373
01:13:48.689 --> 01:13:51.350
that we have to do is think about it. And
1374
01:13:51.390 --> 01:13:54.819
the sensation of eating it and the flavor of eating
1375
01:13:54.899 --> 01:13:57.699
it comes to us as if we are actually eating it.
1376
01:13:58.300 --> 01:14:00.420
So I thought that was really, really cool that she
1377
01:14:00.460 --> 01:14:02.399
shared that because I'm thinking, wow, you know, I can
1378
01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:04.239
eat as much Ben and Jerry's on the other side
1379
01:14:04.279 --> 01:14:05.859
if I want to and not have to worry about
1380
01:14:05.899 --> 01:14:09.350
the calories. So I thought that that was amazing. And
1381
01:14:09.550 --> 01:14:11.090
I wanted to share that story with you.
1382
01:14:13.149 --> 01:14:20.609
Very poignant. I appreciated that, Lynn. Steve? Yeah, can you
1383
01:14:20.649 --> 01:14:21.029
hear me now?
1384
01:14:21.659 --> 01:14:22.340
Are you still with me?
1385
01:14:23.079 --> 01:14:25.180
Yeah, I'm still here. Okay.
1386
01:14:25.220 --> 01:14:25.850
Can you hear me now?
1387
01:14:26.479 --> 01:14:27.649
Yes, I can hear you now.
1388
01:14:27.710 --> 01:14:29.989
Not sure what happened there. I was talking and I
1389
01:14:30.029 --> 01:14:34.090
was still on the screen here. But yeah, that was
1390
01:14:34.109 --> 01:14:36.510
very poignant. Thank you for sharing that with me. And
1391
01:14:37.390 --> 01:14:39.609
I've been around some people when they passed. The first
1392
01:14:39.789 --> 01:14:41.649
person I was ever actually in the room with was
1393
01:14:41.720 --> 01:14:45.979
my grandmother. And I felt her spirit leave her body.
1394
01:14:46.260 --> 01:14:48.739
It lingered after that. But I felt it leave her
1395
01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:51.420
physical body. And there was just, there was like a
1396
01:14:51.500 --> 01:14:55.430
deafening silence and just almost a, it was almost a,
1397
01:14:55.579 --> 01:14:57.260
I don't even know how to describe it, like a
1398
01:14:57.739 --> 01:15:00.159
tone or a music that I could hear in my head.
1399
01:15:00.659 --> 01:15:00.880
Yes.
1400
01:15:01.100 --> 01:15:05.039
And just that silence, that sudden silence. And I felt
1401
01:15:05.079 --> 01:15:08.279
her spirit pass. And then she was just right to the,
1402
01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:11.000
just to the side of the nurse's station. And then
1403
01:15:11.039 --> 01:15:13.119
suddenly all the sound came back. I could hear the
1404
01:15:13.430 --> 01:15:15.560
sound of the nurse's station. I could hear people walking
1405
01:15:15.590 --> 01:15:18.829
in the hallway. I could hear the, the, the flat
1406
01:15:18.869 --> 01:15:21.920
line of the, heart monitor that they had her hooked
1407
01:15:21.939 --> 01:15:26.359
to because she had flatlined and passed away. But something
1408
01:15:26.380 --> 01:15:28.159
I wanted to ask you, if you've ever observed or
1409
01:15:28.180 --> 01:15:30.939
if it's been your experience, people that hang on, that
1410
01:15:30.979 --> 01:15:33.850
aren't ready to go, they're waiting for something. In her case,
1411
01:15:34.210 --> 01:15:36.630
she was waiting for her son from Florida to get there.
1412
01:15:36.670 --> 01:15:39.189
He had to drive a day or two to get
1413
01:15:39.229 --> 01:15:42.689
to where she was. And he hadn't been there maybe
1414
01:15:42.710 --> 01:15:44.970
a half hour, Lynn, and then she passed away. But
1415
01:15:45.130 --> 01:15:45.810
I think she was.
1416
01:15:45.750 --> 01:15:47.369
Hanging on, waiting for him.
1417
01:15:47.819 --> 01:15:51.010
Have you observed that or experienced that in your situations?
1418
01:15:51.670 --> 01:15:54.000
Yes, I have, where they do linger and wait. And,
1419
01:15:54.029 --> 01:15:56.869
you know, there is some leeway on that. Granted, we
1420
01:15:56.930 --> 01:16:01.390
have multiple times during our lifetime. I want to say six.
1421
01:16:01.609 --> 01:16:03.020
Let me not be exact. It might be a little
1422
01:16:03.029 --> 01:16:06.800
bit more than that, where we have opportunities to exit
1423
01:16:07.399 --> 01:16:11.140
life at certain points in our life if we choose to. However,
1424
01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:15.470
suicide is not one of them. And. But when we
1425
01:16:15.510 --> 01:16:19.729
get to the final time that we're able to do that,
1426
01:16:19.770 --> 01:16:21.949
that is the final time. But there is some leeway
1427
01:16:21.989 --> 01:16:24.199
because the time is different on the other side than
1428
01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:26.699
it is here, that there is some leeway with that
1429
01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:29.600
of a couple of days or so type thing. And
1430
01:16:29.659 --> 01:16:32.270
people do, you know, they fight to stay alive, to
1431
01:16:32.310 --> 01:16:35.960
take that last breath, too. wait on family members and
1432
01:16:36.060 --> 01:16:41.220
things like that. However, when it comes to a certain point, they,
1433
01:16:41.649 --> 01:16:43.329
you know, it's when it's time to go, it's time
1434
01:16:43.369 --> 01:16:45.430
to go, whether the person has been able to arrive
1435
01:16:45.470 --> 01:16:48.329
or not, but they, but they will linger that way.
1436
01:16:48.890 --> 01:16:52.949
You know, speaking of that too, I, you know, I've
1437
01:16:52.989 --> 01:16:59.560
had people mention concerns, fears about crossing over and, and
1438
01:16:59.800 --> 01:17:04.399
not partially because Well, I'll tell you the little story
1439
01:17:04.420 --> 01:17:08.739
about this lady. I had a lady that was concerned
1440
01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:12.220
because she was about 93 years old. She had been
1441
01:17:12.260 --> 01:17:16.659
married to her high school sweetheart, and he got killed
1442
01:17:16.699 --> 01:17:19.060
in an accident when he was like 30 years old,
1443
01:17:19.100 --> 01:17:22.500
and she never remarried. And she was concerned that when
1444
01:17:22.560 --> 01:17:25.420
she crossed over that he would be repulsed by her
1445
01:17:25.479 --> 01:17:28.039
appearance because here he would be this young, handsome man,
1446
01:17:28.100 --> 01:17:31.520
and here she is aged 30. And I explained to
1447
01:17:31.590 --> 01:17:34.050
her that it's not the soul that ages, it's the body.
1448
01:17:34.590 --> 01:17:38.329
And number one, he has been with her through her
1449
01:17:38.390 --> 01:17:40.789
transition of aging. He's aware of what she looks like,
1450
01:17:40.850 --> 01:17:43.850
but her soul does not look like that. So when
1451
01:17:43.909 --> 01:17:46.630
she crosses, he will see her the same as he
1452
01:17:46.689 --> 01:17:49.050
saw her last, and she will see him the same
1453
01:17:49.170 --> 01:17:53.079
as she saw him last. And that's how it would connect.
1454
01:17:53.140 --> 01:17:55.880
And she felt relieved by that because she had that
1455
01:17:55.920 --> 01:18:02.970
concern that her appearance would be... repulsive to him. And, um, so,
1456
01:18:03.090 --> 01:18:05.489
you know, sometimes people have concerns about that, but I
1457
01:18:05.590 --> 01:18:10.050
have seen one person, one person only that lingered for
1458
01:18:10.050 --> 01:18:13.850
10 days that it was actively passing. I don't know
1459
01:18:13.989 --> 01:18:16.489
what that man was waiting for or if he was
1460
01:18:16.569 --> 01:18:19.409
fighting death. And the thing about it too, with him
1461
01:18:19.489 --> 01:18:22.449
is normally the angels start coming in around, usually around
1462
01:18:22.489 --> 01:18:24.930
the head of the bed, uh, where the head chakra is,
1463
01:18:24.949 --> 01:18:28.250
they kind of start coming in around that area on people. Um,
1464
01:18:29.710 --> 01:18:32.789
But this didn't happen with this man. I didn't see
1465
01:18:32.970 --> 01:18:38.520
any angels or any spirits or loved ones come in
1466
01:18:38.960 --> 01:18:42.760
and start helping this person transition over as they fought
1467
01:18:42.779 --> 01:18:45.079
for death. And I don't know what came to collect him.
1468
01:18:46.100 --> 01:18:48.090
I wasn't there the day that he passed, but I
1469
01:18:48.149 --> 01:18:51.399
found that concerning. So you know there are some cases
1470
01:18:51.420 --> 01:18:54.720
yeah and he had no physical visitors either because he
1471
01:18:54.760 --> 01:18:59.090
had his children were estranged from him and you know
1472
01:18:59.170 --> 01:19:02.130
his wife had passed away and you know normally we
1473
01:19:02.170 --> 01:19:04.810
don't die alone even if you are alone in the
1474
01:19:04.850 --> 01:19:07.109
room with no physical bodies you're not alone when you
1475
01:19:07.149 --> 01:19:10.510
pass because you have A whole group of people, spiritual
1476
01:19:10.550 --> 01:19:13.649
people there to help you cross over. But in this case,
1477
01:19:14.539 --> 01:19:16.760
it wasn't. So I'm not sure what happened there.
1478
01:19:18.659 --> 01:19:20.779
And then I've also seen other people that would seem
1479
01:19:20.819 --> 01:19:24.579
to wait. Like when my brother passed away, my sister-in-law
1480
01:19:24.600 --> 01:19:28.470
stayed right by his side the whole time. She at
1481
01:19:28.609 --> 01:19:30.470
some point had to go up and go out and
1482
01:19:30.510 --> 01:19:33.149
get something from the nurse's station. It was like the
1483
01:19:33.210 --> 01:19:35.720
moment that she stepped out of the room, he passed away.
1484
01:19:35.760 --> 01:19:37.399
He didn't want to die in front of her. He
1485
01:19:37.439 --> 01:19:40.399
was ready to go, but he wanted to be alone
1486
01:19:40.579 --> 01:19:41.920
in that physical respect.
1487
01:19:42.020 --> 01:19:43.800
I think that happens sometimes, too.
1488
01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:47.119
It does. My father did that. He waited for all
1489
01:19:47.140 --> 01:19:50.869
of us to leave, and then he passed before he
1490
01:19:50.909 --> 01:19:53.590
knew that we were coming back in the morning because
1491
01:19:53.649 --> 01:19:57.600
he didn't want all of the The negativity and the
1492
01:19:57.680 --> 01:20:01.960
sorrow that comes with the grieving in a lot of cases.
1493
01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:03.939
And the thing is, is sometimes the angels have a
1494
01:20:03.979 --> 01:20:06.810
little bit of trouble coming in close because they have
1495
01:20:06.850 --> 01:20:11.409
such a high vibration that they will exacerbate or emphasize
1496
01:20:11.909 --> 01:20:13.750
any type of emotion that's in the room. So if
1497
01:20:13.770 --> 01:20:16.630
you've got somebody that's really struggling with sorrow, it might
1498
01:20:16.670 --> 01:20:20.479
increase it. So they are very careful about how they approach.
1499
01:20:20.520 --> 01:20:23.920
Sometimes they'll send a physical person in to call them
1500
01:20:23.960 --> 01:20:26.300
away to the nurse's station or something so that they
1501
01:20:26.340 --> 01:20:29.460
can get a little bit closer. But my father didn't
1502
01:20:29.960 --> 01:20:35.789
want all of that sorrow and people hovering over him
1503
01:20:35.810 --> 01:20:39.050
in that way. He also had a near-death experience that
1504
01:20:39.109 --> 01:20:43.229
was interesting 10 years before he passed away that I
1505
01:20:43.270 --> 01:20:44.390
can share with you if you'd like.
1506
01:20:44.890 --> 01:20:46.810
Oh, yeah, please. I'd love to hear it. Okay.
1507
01:20:47.170 --> 01:20:50.789
My father, he had gone for his yearly physical, and
1508
01:20:50.829 --> 01:20:53.550
they found that when they did his eye check that
1509
01:20:53.590 --> 01:20:57.220
he had a bulging vein in his eye, which indicated
1510
01:20:57.300 --> 01:21:01.119
that there was some major vessel that had a clot
1511
01:21:01.180 --> 01:21:04.420
in it that was getting ready to occlude and create
1512
01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:07.479
a massive stroke for him. So they immediately sent him
1513
01:21:07.539 --> 01:21:11.250
over to the hospital from the doctor's office, and they found...
1514
01:21:11.689 --> 01:21:13.710
that the clot was too large for them to be
1515
01:21:13.770 --> 01:21:15.670
able to dissolve it in time, and they had to
1516
01:21:15.810 --> 01:21:20.529
opt for surgery to literally pick it out of the vessel.
1517
01:21:21.489 --> 01:21:25.760
So he had his surgery. He was in the recovery room,
1518
01:21:26.039 --> 01:21:29.539
and the nurse was tending to him. She was getting
1519
01:21:29.579 --> 01:21:33.340
ready to put some pain medication. Actually, she was actively
1520
01:21:33.380 --> 01:21:37.680
putting the pain medication into his IV, and a sense
1521
01:21:37.720 --> 01:21:41.550
came over him of, nope. don't do that. And he
1522
01:21:41.770 --> 01:21:43.970
verbalized it. He said, no, I don't, you know, I
1523
01:21:44.010 --> 01:21:45.859
don't want that. And she said, Oh, well, this is
1524
01:21:45.899 --> 01:21:49.220
your pain medication. You don't want your pain medication. And
1525
01:21:49.279 --> 01:21:53.239
he said, no. And the room immediately went dark and
1526
01:21:53.300 --> 01:21:56.920
he could feel himself hovering. Well, the thing about morphine
1527
01:21:56.979 --> 01:21:59.140
is it was morphine and he's allergic to it. I
1528
01:21:59.199 --> 01:22:02.060
am as well, but it will drop your heart rate.
1529
01:22:02.149 --> 01:22:06.029
And my father always had low blood pressure to begin with. So, um,
1530
01:22:07.399 --> 01:22:10.079
The room went dark just briefly. He felt that he
1531
01:22:10.180 --> 01:22:16.960
was going into a tunnel that was glistening with stars
1532
01:22:17.260 --> 01:22:20.359
like a thousand times more than that are in the sky.
1533
01:22:20.399 --> 01:22:23.579
And he turned over at one point at the ceiling
1534
01:22:23.779 --> 01:22:25.659
of the room that he was in and he was
1535
01:22:25.680 --> 01:22:28.600
looking down and he saw them coming in with the
1536
01:22:28.649 --> 01:22:31.850
crash carts and, you know, everybody coming over his body
1537
01:22:31.930 --> 01:22:35.170
and getting ready to try to revive him. And he
1538
01:22:35.229 --> 01:22:38.470
continued upward. through this tunnel. And he said that he
1539
01:22:38.510 --> 01:22:43.510
was aware of other souls and beings also transitioning in
1540
01:22:43.550 --> 01:22:46.229
the area of him. He could sense that they were there.
1541
01:22:46.250 --> 01:22:52.449
And he continued. He did get a brief period to
1542
01:22:52.569 --> 01:22:56.970
see my sister. He did have part of his life review,
1543
01:22:57.050 --> 01:22:59.789
which he needed. My father was a very intelligent man.
1544
01:22:59.890 --> 01:23:04.270
He was He was a professor, a math professor, and
1545
01:23:04.350 --> 01:23:06.670
also had a degree in chemistry. He was a brilliant
1546
01:23:06.710 --> 01:23:09.029
man with a great mind, but he was a horrible
1547
01:23:09.630 --> 01:23:13.949
alcoholic that was physically violent and abusive and a very
1548
01:23:14.010 --> 01:23:19.869
scary man at times. So as he transitioned up, he
1549
01:23:19.949 --> 01:23:22.500
was able to be in the six places at one time,
1550
01:23:22.760 --> 01:23:25.039
and he was with each of his children. He had
1551
01:23:26.199 --> 01:23:29.340
six children total. One passed. Robin was on the other side.
1552
01:23:30.319 --> 01:23:32.579
at that time, and he was able to be with
1553
01:23:32.699 --> 01:23:34.699
all five of his children at one time. And he
1554
01:23:34.770 --> 01:23:37.310
realized that if he chose to pass at that time,
1555
01:23:37.350 --> 01:23:39.510
which he was given the option, he could have stayed
1556
01:23:39.670 --> 01:23:43.310
or came back, that all of his children would be okay.
1557
01:23:43.369 --> 01:23:46.479
But he was newly married to a lady from Russia,
1558
01:23:47.020 --> 01:23:49.560
and she didn't even know how to drive yet. You know,
1559
01:23:49.800 --> 01:23:52.619
she didn't know how to understand how the banking thing works,
1560
01:23:52.659 --> 01:23:55.840
how to balance a checkbook. how to use the internet
1561
01:23:55.949 --> 01:23:58.880
that we have here and that sort of thing. So
1562
01:23:59.100 --> 01:24:04.420
he decided to come back to help her. And the
1563
01:24:04.439 --> 01:24:08.720
thing was, is when he made that decision to come back,
1564
01:24:09.340 --> 01:24:11.510
as he was coming back through the ceiling and into
1565
01:24:11.550 --> 01:24:16.689
his body, he could feel himself hit the bed that
1566
01:24:16.750 --> 01:24:18.590
he was laying in. And he said he could feel
1567
01:24:18.609 --> 01:24:20.829
the weight of his body and the pain from his surgery.
1568
01:24:20.850 --> 01:24:23.489
And of course, the pain from them you know, trying
1569
01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:25.800
to get his heart started again and things like that.
1570
01:24:25.899 --> 01:24:30.060
And when he did come back, he was a completely
1571
01:24:30.100 --> 01:24:35.170
different man. He became this very, very humble, very sweet man.
1572
01:24:35.649 --> 01:24:40.289
He apologized to his family, apologized to me for what
1573
01:24:40.329 --> 01:24:43.149
a tyrant he had been. And he immediately stopped drinking.
1574
01:24:43.850 --> 01:24:48.960
He didn't touch any alcohol again, ever. And he spent
1575
01:24:48.979 --> 01:24:51.189
the last 10 years of his life getting everything in
1576
01:24:51.310 --> 01:24:54.130
order for his wife, teaching her to drive, teaching her
1577
01:24:54.689 --> 01:24:56.989
how to balance a checkbook and that sort of thing.
1578
01:24:57.069 --> 01:24:59.550
And he made a list of everything that she needed
1579
01:24:59.569 --> 01:25:01.649
to do. He even wrote his own obituary and he
1580
01:25:01.750 --> 01:25:06.569
ended up passing 10 years later. But he shared that
1581
01:25:06.649 --> 01:25:08.470
story with me and he told me, he said, you know,
1582
01:25:08.510 --> 01:25:10.569
you're the only person that I would share this story
1583
01:25:10.609 --> 01:25:12.810
with because I know that you would believe me. And
1584
01:25:12.850 --> 01:25:16.489
it turned out, ironically, that my father was the empath.
1585
01:25:17.100 --> 01:25:19.659
It wasn't my mother. So for all of those years,
1586
01:25:19.819 --> 01:25:21.960
he was the one that was seeing things, just not
1587
01:25:22.020 --> 01:25:25.600
talking about it. And he had all of these empathic
1588
01:25:25.659 --> 01:25:29.319
abilities that he didn't use because back in the day,
1589
01:25:29.800 --> 01:25:32.100
you know, if you spoke in some circles, if you
1590
01:25:32.140 --> 01:25:35.609
spoke about those sorts of things, they would literally send
1591
01:25:35.649 --> 01:25:37.569
the men in white coats to your house to pick
1592
01:25:37.609 --> 01:25:40.810
you up and you'd end up with a lobotomy. So,
1593
01:25:41.329 --> 01:25:43.510
you know, he kept it under wraps. But it was
1594
01:25:43.609 --> 01:25:46.010
interesting because I wondered where we had gotten the gift.
1595
01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:49.560
And it was from him. And usually it's from the mom,
1596
01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:52.420
but it was from him. And I thought that that
1597
01:25:52.460 --> 01:25:55.340
was interesting that we got it from him.
1598
01:25:56.340 --> 01:25:56.619
Yeah.
1599
01:25:56.699 --> 01:26:00.260
And usually I'd say 90% or more, it's from the
1600
01:26:00.300 --> 01:26:03.159
maternal side. But occasionally the fathers will sneak in there
1601
01:26:03.229 --> 01:26:05.970
and you get the gift from them or known people
1602
01:26:05.989 --> 01:26:07.149
that had it from both sides.
1603
01:26:07.270 --> 01:26:09.590
So a double whammy there.
1604
01:26:11.130 --> 01:26:13.390
Yep. That's, that's how we had, and you know, you
1605
01:26:13.409 --> 01:26:16.670
were talking before you had mentioned to, um, about people
1606
01:26:16.710 --> 01:26:21.149
getting ready to pass and that sometimes they see people. And, um,
1607
01:26:21.609 --> 01:26:24.229
this has happened so many times. There was a, for instance,
1608
01:26:24.270 --> 01:26:27.479
that I had with a patient that was blind and,
1609
01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:31.859
you know, the medical community, not only do they, they
1610
01:26:31.899 --> 01:26:36.859
consider hallucinate hallucinations, mental issues, or something wrong with you.
1611
01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:40.210
If you're hallucinating, whether it's with mental illness, which is
1612
01:26:40.270 --> 01:26:42.829
treated in a different way versus people that are getting
1613
01:26:42.890 --> 01:26:45.390
ready to cross and getting elderly and they start talking
1614
01:26:45.430 --> 01:26:47.869
about seeing their parents and things like that. But they
1615
01:26:47.930 --> 01:26:51.409
rush to them with medication, you know, to fix it.
1616
01:26:52.069 --> 01:26:55.729
So the thing is, is that I had a lady
1617
01:26:56.149 --> 01:26:58.449
on my ward that was blind. She'd been blind for
1618
01:26:58.449 --> 01:27:03.329
10 years, could see shadows, anything, nothing at all. And
1619
01:27:03.409 --> 01:27:06.250
she was actively transitioning and her son and daughter come
1620
01:27:06.289 --> 01:27:09.189
to the nurse's station And they say to me, they say,
1621
01:27:09.229 --> 01:27:12.890
mom's talking to people in the room that aren't there. Well,
1622
01:27:12.930 --> 01:27:16.710
I expected that because that's what happens when people start
1623
01:27:16.750 --> 01:27:21.770
to transition over. And so more to comfort the children
1624
01:27:21.789 --> 01:27:24.069
than to comfort her because I knew she was fine.
1625
01:27:24.529 --> 01:27:27.079
I said to them, I said, well, let me walk
1626
01:27:27.119 --> 01:27:29.840
down to the room with you because they seemed very concerned.
1627
01:27:29.939 --> 01:27:32.819
And let me see if I can adjust your mom
1628
01:27:32.859 --> 01:27:35.539
in bed or get her something to make her more comfortable.
1629
01:27:35.640 --> 01:27:38.770
And so we walked into the room. And the patient
1630
01:27:38.810 --> 01:27:41.810
was sitting there at a slant and she was reaching
1631
01:27:41.890 --> 01:27:45.590
up into the air as if she was being handed
1632
01:27:45.729 --> 01:27:49.720
something or receiving something very delicate because she was being very,
1633
01:27:49.779 --> 01:27:53.000
very careful with it and she was smiling. And she
1634
01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:55.899
was very happy with whatever was happening. And I said
1635
01:27:55.939 --> 01:27:58.859
to her, I said, Edna, I said, who's here? And
1636
01:27:58.920 --> 01:28:02.140
she said, George. And her daughter turned as white as
1637
01:28:02.199 --> 01:28:04.109
a sheet and had to sit down. And she said,
1638
01:28:04.750 --> 01:28:09.659
her daughter said, well, George, George, is my father's name
1639
01:28:09.739 --> 01:28:12.359
and my father's been dead for X amount of years.
1640
01:28:13.180 --> 01:28:16.279
And then Edna pipes up and she says, and he's
1641
01:28:16.319 --> 01:28:20.029
glad that you're taking good care of Pixie. Pixie was
1642
01:28:20.149 --> 01:28:24.529
Edna's poodle. When George died, the son had to take
1643
01:28:24.789 --> 01:28:29.949
possession of Pixie the poodle because Edna was blind and
1644
01:28:29.970 --> 01:28:32.930
couldn't care for the dog. And the dog actually was
1645
01:28:32.970 --> 01:28:36.250
still alive, an elderly dog, but still in the son's care.
1646
01:28:37.439 --> 01:28:40.189
So the son said to me, he said, do you
1647
01:28:40.229 --> 01:28:42.899
think that my mom is hallucinating? And of course, as
1648
01:28:42.939 --> 01:28:45.699
a medical professional in that setting, I can't come out
1649
01:28:45.720 --> 01:28:48.279
and say, no, I think your father's here. I think
1650
01:28:48.300 --> 01:28:51.020
your mom's getting ready to transition and he's here to,
1651
01:28:51.039 --> 01:28:53.460
you know, get her ready and get her comfortable and
1652
01:28:53.500 --> 01:28:56.199
help her to cross over. So I turned it around
1653
01:28:56.279 --> 01:29:00.970
and I said, well, do you think she's hallucinating? And
1654
01:29:01.020 --> 01:29:04.210
he came back and he said, well, I don't know.
1655
01:29:04.229 --> 01:29:07.119
And I said to him, I said, well, do you
1656
01:29:07.180 --> 01:29:11.119
mind if I try something? I'm not trying to change
1657
01:29:11.159 --> 01:29:15.000
your belief system or anything like that. But it's been
1658
01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:17.359
my experience as a nurse in this field for many,
1659
01:29:17.399 --> 01:29:21.310
many years that loved ones do come forward to help
1660
01:29:21.909 --> 01:29:25.810
the people transition over at the time of death. And,
1661
01:29:26.149 --> 01:29:28.149
you know, do you mind if I try something? And
1662
01:29:28.229 --> 01:29:30.510
he said, no, go, of course, go ahead. So I
1663
01:29:30.630 --> 01:29:34.720
asked Edna, said, Edna, can I ask George a question?
1664
01:29:34.760 --> 01:29:36.920
And she nodded her head, yes. And I said, George,
1665
01:29:37.720 --> 01:29:43.199
what color is your son's shirt and Edna said yellow
1666
01:29:43.800 --> 01:29:47.340
well keep in mind that Edna is blind completely and
1667
01:29:47.539 --> 01:29:52.579
because the filters are facing George was able to answer
1668
01:29:52.779 --> 01:29:56.659
that question through Edna and she was correct because he
1669
01:29:56.699 --> 01:29:58.930
had on a yellow Ralph Lauren polo shirt and in
1670
01:29:58.970 --> 01:30:02.189
that moment he got it and he said hi dad
1671
01:30:02.289 --> 01:30:04.329
and of course then I left the room and Les
1672
01:30:04.350 --> 01:30:06.229
said I will leave you with your mother and your
1673
01:30:06.270 --> 01:30:09.640
father And the thing is, is what people don't realize
1674
01:30:09.880 --> 01:30:13.260
is they get so tied up in their grief that
1675
01:30:13.319 --> 01:30:16.329
during this time of transition, when the person is able
1676
01:30:16.409 --> 01:30:19.170
to hear the telepathy coming from the other side, as
1677
01:30:19.229 --> 01:30:24.850
well as the physical verbalization on the physical side, that
1678
01:30:25.399 --> 01:30:28.460
this is a time that you can communicate with the
1679
01:30:28.500 --> 01:30:31.979
other side yourself. And I mean, thinking about it, You know,
1680
01:30:32.020 --> 01:30:34.199
how many times have you heard somebody say, oh, I
1681
01:30:34.260 --> 01:30:36.479
wish I could tell so-and-so that I love them one
1682
01:30:36.500 --> 01:30:39.399
more time or tell somebody that I'm sorry, or even
1683
01:30:39.520 --> 01:30:42.239
ask somebody a question like, you know, uncle Bob, where
1684
01:30:42.270 --> 01:30:44.890
he buried the money or where the clock is. This
1685
01:30:44.989 --> 01:30:48.609
is your time. And so many people miss it because
1686
01:30:48.670 --> 01:30:52.250
of their discomfort with having a dead person in the room.
1687
01:30:52.310 --> 01:30:54.829
And even if it's a dead person that they know,
1688
01:30:55.289 --> 01:31:00.029
you know, like their father, excuse me, in this situation. And, um,
1689
01:31:00.479 --> 01:31:03.300
they become so uncomfortable with it that they usually run
1690
01:31:03.319 --> 01:31:05.539
and get the nurse to come and do something about it.
1691
01:31:05.579 --> 01:31:08.340
Like give them medication to, you know, to shut them
1692
01:31:08.439 --> 01:31:10.579
up so that they stop talking about it because of,
1693
01:31:10.859 --> 01:31:14.229
you know, they needing relief for their comfort measures, but
1694
01:31:14.270 --> 01:31:19.029
they miss out on a very, very beautiful time to reconnect. And,
1695
01:31:19.510 --> 01:31:22.710
you know, even with the, I love you and I'm sorry,
1696
01:31:22.829 --> 01:31:25.270
they can hear you the same as you and I
1697
01:31:25.310 --> 01:31:28.329
are talking. So you can always say that at any time,
1698
01:31:28.369 --> 01:31:32.180
but sometimes people, seem to need something a little bit
1699
01:31:32.229 --> 01:31:36.340
more physical on this side when their loved ones do
1700
01:31:36.420 --> 01:31:40.699
present in spiritual form. They want that confirmation to make
1701
01:31:40.779 --> 01:31:44.300
sure that they're really there. And I'm mentioning this because
1702
01:31:45.399 --> 01:31:48.670
when my mother was actively passing, we made a pact.
1703
01:31:49.630 --> 01:31:54.470
And my mother had beautiful, long, pearlescent hair. And I
1704
01:31:54.609 --> 01:31:58.300
asked her, I said, you know, she had cancer. She
1705
01:31:58.340 --> 01:32:01.000
decided to stop going through treatment and we spent a
1706
01:32:01.020 --> 01:32:04.239
whole year checking off her bucket list, going to eat
1707
01:32:04.279 --> 01:32:07.239
lasagna every week at her favorite restaurant and visiting friends
1708
01:32:07.279 --> 01:32:09.550
that she hadn't seen in a while and going to places.
1709
01:32:09.609 --> 01:32:11.329
And she got to camp for the first time in
1710
01:32:11.369 --> 01:32:14.250
her life and she loved it. So we were checking
1711
01:32:14.289 --> 01:32:17.949
these things off. And the thing about it is, is,
1712
01:32:18.649 --> 01:32:22.729
is that in addition, you know, to that, why am
1713
01:32:22.770 --> 01:32:27.800
I forgetting what I'm saying here? Oh my gosh. Give
1714
01:32:27.819 --> 01:32:30.840
me just a second. I completely went blank on that.
1715
01:32:30.859 --> 01:32:38.039
I was actually going somewhere with that. Oh, talking about people,
1716
01:32:38.479 --> 01:32:44.770
seeing other people on the other side. With my mother's transitioning, actually,
1717
01:32:44.779 --> 01:32:47.050
I'm going to change because I've totally lost thought on that.
1718
01:32:47.100 --> 01:32:48.050
I am so sorry.
1719
01:32:48.069 --> 01:32:49.689
Oh, it happens.
1720
01:32:50.369 --> 01:32:51.750
No problem at all. No worries.
1721
01:32:51.789 --> 01:32:53.729
But yeah, I just can continue on with something else.
1722
01:32:53.670 --> 01:32:54.109
If you'd like.
1723
01:32:54.609 --> 01:32:59.779
OK. I also had a patient that I'd like to
1724
01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:03.140
mention that was in the facility that I was working
1725
01:33:03.159 --> 01:33:07.699
in named Abigail. And she actually had no children. She
1726
01:33:07.720 --> 01:33:10.039
had come to the facility that I was working in
1727
01:33:10.859 --> 01:33:16.529
because her husband's health was failing. And so about six
1728
01:33:16.550 --> 01:33:20.029
months into them being there, Abigail slipped and fell and
1729
01:33:20.050 --> 01:33:22.369
she fractured her hip and she ended up on my unit.
1730
01:33:23.460 --> 01:33:25.979
And we built up a rapport because she had been
1731
01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:28.560
there a while going through physical therapy and stuff like that.
1732
01:33:28.600 --> 01:33:31.590
And there was one day in particular that I came
1733
01:33:31.710 --> 01:33:34.010
in and she said to me, she said, Lynn, do
1734
01:33:34.029 --> 01:33:37.270
you think I'm crazy? And of course we had a rapport.
1735
01:33:37.289 --> 01:33:38.750
So I was teasing her a little bit and I'm
1736
01:33:38.770 --> 01:33:42.569
like defying crazy. And she's like, no, no, no. I mean, crazy, crazy.
1737
01:33:42.630 --> 01:33:44.390
And I said, well, no, of course not. You know,
1738
01:33:44.930 --> 01:33:47.720
why would you even say that? And she said, well,
1739
01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:52.060
I see my parents. She said, and I like seeing
1740
01:33:52.100 --> 01:33:55.720
my parents and the doctor saying that I'm having hallucinations
1741
01:33:55.779 --> 01:33:59.470
and he's going to be giving me medication to stop
1742
01:33:59.510 --> 01:34:02.970
the hallucination. She says, I don't want to stop seeing
1743
01:34:03.010 --> 01:34:05.630
my parents. It makes me happy. And she started to cry.
1744
01:34:05.670 --> 01:34:09.039
It was upsetting to her. And I told her, I said, well,
1745
01:34:09.060 --> 01:34:11.760
you know, I heard a report, which is something that
1746
01:34:11.779 --> 01:34:14.060
the nurses gather together on to give an update on
1747
01:34:14.079 --> 01:34:16.500
the patients that one is leaving off and the other
1748
01:34:16.600 --> 01:34:19.100
one is picking up and receiving medication. said, I heard
1749
01:34:19.140 --> 01:34:23.220
that you're going to be discharged in the morning and that, um,
1750
01:34:23.880 --> 01:34:26.659
you know, if for some reason, in the meantime, they
1751
01:34:26.680 --> 01:34:29.529
bring you this medication because you're of sound mind as
1752
01:34:29.550 --> 01:34:31.939
your advocate, I'm telling you that you can refuse it.
1753
01:34:33.170 --> 01:34:35.810
So she, she was happy with that idea. And sure enough,
1754
01:34:35.890 --> 01:34:39.449
she was discharged the next day to go home. But, um,
1755
01:34:39.489 --> 01:34:42.010
then she found out that she had a terminal, um,
1756
01:34:42.140 --> 01:34:46.550
illness and she was back on my unit, um, sometime later. And, uh,
1757
01:34:47.729 --> 01:34:51.329
This time, in addition to seeing her parents, she was
1758
01:34:51.409 --> 01:34:55.060
seeing a woman with a little girl that would come
1759
01:34:55.109 --> 01:34:57.449
and visit in her room. And it was so real
1760
01:34:57.520 --> 01:35:00.840
to her that she was actually sneaking cookies and cakes
1761
01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:03.960
to her room in order to give to the little girl.
1762
01:35:04.779 --> 01:35:07.960
And this was creating a bug problem. So, of course,
1763
01:35:08.039 --> 01:35:13.350
we had to stop her from doing that. There was
1764
01:35:13.489 --> 01:35:16.189
one day in particular that I had volunteered to work
1765
01:35:16.210 --> 01:35:18.729
a day shift. I was a night shift nurse on
1766
01:35:18.750 --> 01:35:20.729
the weekends. I worked a bailer shift so I could
1767
01:35:20.949 --> 01:35:24.930
be home with my kids during the week. And I
1768
01:35:24.989 --> 01:35:28.720
came in, and everybody had been placed back into their rooms,
1769
01:35:28.810 --> 01:35:31.680
and I'm going down the hallway with my treatment cart
1770
01:35:31.699 --> 01:35:34.979
to start treatments. And I pass by Abigail's room on
1771
01:35:35.020 --> 01:35:38.359
my left-hand side, and as I'm passing, I notice Abigail
1772
01:35:38.439 --> 01:35:41.840
sitting in her recliner, She's next to a big picture
1773
01:35:41.880 --> 01:35:45.279
window with an air conditioner underneath like the American hotels have.
1774
01:35:46.050 --> 01:35:49.569
And she's leaning forward with this piece of yellow butterscotch
1775
01:35:49.630 --> 01:35:53.130
wrapped candy. And anybody else that would have passed by,
1776
01:35:53.149 --> 01:35:54.689
it would have looked like she was trying to feed
1777
01:35:54.729 --> 01:35:56.810
the air conditioner. But I saw in front of her
1778
01:35:56.890 --> 01:36:03.329
standing there, this woman in a denim skirt, white peasant blouse.
1779
01:36:03.909 --> 01:36:07.670
She had dark Long hair, straight long hair parted down
1780
01:36:07.729 --> 01:36:09.590
the middle. And a little girl that was standing in
1781
01:36:09.630 --> 01:36:12.149
front of her, also that jet black hair with bangs.
1782
01:36:12.770 --> 01:36:14.869
She had on a little blue dress with a pinafore,
1783
01:36:14.909 --> 01:36:17.760
little Mary Jane shoes. She was a cute, cute, cute
1784
01:36:17.770 --> 01:36:21.100
little girl. And I remember thinking to myself, oh, wow,
1785
01:36:21.159 --> 01:36:25.239
you know, Abigail's got visitors today. I was happy for
1786
01:36:25.260 --> 01:36:27.680
her because, again, she didn't have children. And the only
1787
01:36:27.720 --> 01:36:30.319
person she had to even come visit her was her husband.
1788
01:36:31.359 --> 01:36:33.640
So I walked forward and it hit me. I'm like, well,
1789
01:36:33.659 --> 01:36:35.859
wait a minute. You know, I don't remember those people
1790
01:36:35.899 --> 01:36:38.739
signing in at the nurse's station. And legally, we have
1791
01:36:38.760 --> 01:36:42.279
to have a headcount for the amount of people in
1792
01:36:42.319 --> 01:36:44.500
the building just in case there's an emergency. They will
1793
01:36:44.520 --> 01:36:46.359
know how many people are in the building so they
1794
01:36:46.399 --> 01:36:49.500
know how many to rescue and get out. So I
1795
01:36:49.560 --> 01:36:52.819
stepped back and I knocked on the doorframe and I
1796
01:36:52.960 --> 01:36:55.500
said and she invited me in and I walked in.
1797
01:36:56.170 --> 01:36:59.350
And all of a sudden I noticed that there's nobody there.
1798
01:36:59.369 --> 01:37:01.609
And I'm thinking, there's no way these people could have left.
1799
01:37:01.649 --> 01:37:04.649
I only went three steps forward and I see this
1800
01:37:04.729 --> 01:37:07.869
waffling to the air. So I realized that they were
1801
01:37:07.909 --> 01:37:11.170
spirits and that they were still present. And Abigail says
1802
01:37:11.229 --> 01:37:14.680
to me, she says, I want you to meet my friends.
1803
01:37:14.880 --> 01:37:19.560
Isn't the little girl beautiful? And I said, yes, she is. Well,
1804
01:37:19.699 --> 01:37:21.939
Abigail just about came out of her chair and she said,
1805
01:37:21.960 --> 01:37:25.079
can you see them? I said, yes. And she said,
1806
01:37:25.789 --> 01:37:30.680
don't tell anybody because they'll put you on medication for hallucinations.
1807
01:37:31.279 --> 01:37:34.340
And so here, this woman was being now heavily medicated
1808
01:37:34.399 --> 01:37:38.239
for hallucinations that were not hallucinations. She was still seeing
1809
01:37:38.260 --> 01:37:42.199
them anyway. And she had the wherewithal to, to know
1810
01:37:42.239 --> 01:37:47.439
the difference. And the beautiful thing was, is about a
1811
01:37:47.479 --> 01:37:50.600
short time later, she had started to go into an
1812
01:37:50.699 --> 01:37:54.010
active decline and I came on shift and went into
1813
01:37:54.060 --> 01:37:56.289
her room and I, patted her arm and I said,
1814
01:37:56.329 --> 01:37:59.449
Miss Abigail, it's Lynn. I'm here to check your blood pressure.
1815
01:37:59.470 --> 01:38:02.770
And she was kind of in that rallying stage. And
1816
01:38:02.810 --> 01:38:04.930
all of a sudden her eyes perk up and brighten
1817
01:38:04.989 --> 01:38:06.930
and her toes perk. And she says to me, I
1818
01:38:07.010 --> 01:38:10.149
am so glad that I got to see you one
1819
01:38:10.189 --> 01:38:13.149
more time. And, and I, and she said, I'm going
1820
01:38:13.210 --> 01:38:16.729
home tomorrow with my parents. And I understood what that meant.
1821
01:38:16.970 --> 01:38:20.750
I knew that she was passing. And, uh, she said, and, um,
1822
01:38:21.550 --> 01:38:23.640
And I told her at that time, I said, you know,
1823
01:38:23.680 --> 01:38:25.560
thank you so much for allowing me to be part
1824
01:38:25.600 --> 01:38:28.229
of your health care team. You've been such an amazing lady.
1825
01:38:28.310 --> 01:38:30.619
And she said she interrupted me. and she said, and
1826
01:38:30.659 --> 01:38:33.380
I want to tell you something. And this still brings
1827
01:38:33.439 --> 01:38:36.819
tears to my eyes. She said, you're very much loved
1828
01:38:36.899 --> 01:38:38.909
on the other side and you need to keep doing
1829
01:38:38.949 --> 01:38:42.439
what you're doing. And again, it started to make me cry.
1830
01:38:42.619 --> 01:38:45.909
And I told her, I said, you, you beautiful lady,
1831
01:38:46.550 --> 01:38:49.409
you know, we will meet up again someday. And she said, Oh,
1832
01:38:49.470 --> 01:38:51.859
we most certainly will. And of course, the next night
1833
01:38:51.920 --> 01:38:55.560
I was off. And around 1030. I feel her saying,
1834
01:38:55.640 --> 01:38:58.340
I made it home. And lo and behold, you know,
1835
01:38:58.399 --> 01:39:00.779
I did check with him that she had passed away
1836
01:39:01.460 --> 01:39:05.350
shortly after. So I'm mentioning this because this is common,
1837
01:39:05.359 --> 01:39:08.529
you know, for people who start talking about seeing loved
1838
01:39:08.670 --> 01:39:12.810
ones and they're not hallucinating. They're actually seeing their loved
1839
01:39:12.909 --> 01:39:16.010
ones coming in on the other side. And I'm hoping,
1840
01:39:16.029 --> 01:39:18.850
you know, even being a medical professional, I'm getting close
1841
01:39:18.930 --> 01:39:22.829
to retirement. So, you know, I've come to speak out
1842
01:39:22.890 --> 01:39:27.380
about some of these things medically, because, you know, before
1843
01:39:27.439 --> 01:39:30.359
I couldn't say much, I didn't want my license pulled
1844
01:39:30.380 --> 01:39:32.279
or to to get into trouble. But now that I'm
1845
01:39:32.319 --> 01:39:34.220
close to retirement, if they want to take it, I'll
1846
01:39:34.260 --> 01:39:36.819
just retire early. So I don't care. So I am
1847
01:39:36.899 --> 01:39:42.140
coming forward to talk about these things and how even in,
1848
01:39:42.500 --> 01:39:48.529
you know, medical treatment, there is a spiritual and component
1849
01:39:48.609 --> 01:39:52.829
that they're not even acknowledging in treatment. And the first
1850
01:39:52.850 --> 01:39:54.369
thing they run to is the medication.
1851
01:39:54.899 --> 01:39:55.569
Yeah, and I agree.
1852
01:39:55.609 --> 01:39:58.340
That's not something that they teach in medical school, but
1853
01:39:58.380 --> 01:40:04.279
they should. Especially for palliative care or end-of-life or even
1854
01:40:04.520 --> 01:40:07.340
traumatic accidents and things like that where somebody's not going
1855
01:40:07.359 --> 01:40:11.079
to make it, I think the doctors and nurses such
1856
01:40:11.159 --> 01:40:16.109
as yourself should at least have a little background in that. Now,
1857
01:40:16.210 --> 01:40:18.750
has there been a lot of pushbacks from people that
1858
01:40:18.789 --> 01:40:22.270
you've worked with and things? Do they know what you
1859
01:40:22.289 --> 01:40:23.710
can see and hear, or do you just kind of
1860
01:40:23.729 --> 01:40:24.609
keep that to yourself?
1861
01:40:25.659 --> 01:40:27.939
Yes, because I talk about it all the time. And,
1862
01:40:27.979 --> 01:40:30.359
you know, the funny thing is, is I have not
1863
01:40:30.720 --> 01:40:33.930
had any pushback because you know what? Even people that
1864
01:40:33.970 --> 01:40:36.729
claim that they don't believe there is a part of
1865
01:40:36.810 --> 01:40:40.520
them that is still connected with that consciousness that's on
1866
01:40:40.560 --> 01:40:43.510
the other side that is home for them. that they
1867
01:40:43.949 --> 01:40:47.710
still have a familiarity with. They just are creeped out
1868
01:40:47.810 --> 01:40:50.470
by it because of the way that they've been raised
1869
01:40:50.989 --> 01:40:53.670
and taught to be afraid of it in traditional religion.
1870
01:40:53.710 --> 01:40:57.010
And maybe their gifts were not nurtured. So I've actually
1871
01:40:57.069 --> 01:41:00.149
had people come forward to me, like you were mentioning
1872
01:41:00.229 --> 01:41:04.060
also with you, people thanking you, you know, people come
1873
01:41:04.109 --> 01:41:08.000
forward to me and they say, You know, my grandmother's
1874
01:41:08.060 --> 01:41:10.659
house used to have a rocking chair that would move
1875
01:41:10.699 --> 01:41:13.140
itself out into the middle of the hallway every night.
1876
01:41:13.479 --> 01:41:15.909
And you're the only person I've ever told this because
1877
01:41:15.970 --> 01:41:17.689
I know that you'll believe me and not think that
1878
01:41:17.729 --> 01:41:22.189
I'm crazy. You know, the community has built up such
1879
01:41:22.369 --> 01:41:26.819
a frenzy of craziness around anybody talking about anything that
1880
01:41:26.880 --> 01:41:30.789
other people are scared of. that, you know, they want
1881
01:41:30.810 --> 01:41:33.569
to shove it under the rug. So, yes, you know,
1882
01:41:33.670 --> 01:41:39.569
I have never, ever, ever once gotten a nasty email
1883
01:41:39.649 --> 01:41:45.720
from anybody or anybody that has verbally tried to discredit
1884
01:41:46.140 --> 01:41:50.119
anything that I have said because in their gut, where
1885
01:41:50.180 --> 01:41:52.739
their solar plexus is, they really know that what I'm
1886
01:41:52.800 --> 01:41:56.180
saying is true. And I believe that.
1887
01:41:56.699 --> 01:41:58.279
Yeah, yeah, and I agree.
1888
01:41:59.119 --> 01:42:02.939
And again, that's, you know, this is all just fascinating
1889
01:42:03.319 --> 01:42:08.210
topics here. What's your next book that you're working on?
1890
01:42:08.229 --> 01:42:10.930
You mentioned it in the beginning, but I forgot.
1891
01:42:11.720 --> 01:42:15.619
Yes, I actually have one out for editing. That one
1892
01:42:16.619 --> 01:42:18.909
is the one that talks about the ghost that was
1893
01:42:18.949 --> 01:42:20.829
going from house to house, and it talks about ways
1894
01:42:20.869 --> 01:42:23.609
to protect yourself and clear that sort of thing. But
1895
01:42:23.649 --> 01:42:25.869
the one that I'm working on right now, I came
1896
01:42:25.930 --> 01:42:34.880
up against, it's Omnipresent Gnome, K-O-M-E, place like home. which
1897
01:42:34.979 --> 01:42:38.729
actually Cisco gave me the idea for that. That was
1898
01:42:38.789 --> 01:42:41.289
great with a show that we had done and she
1899
01:42:41.350 --> 01:42:43.510
had put that logo on there. So I'm going to
1900
01:42:43.550 --> 01:42:45.689
go ahead and use it and add the omnipresent to
1901
01:42:45.729 --> 01:42:49.529
it because it's perfect. When my sister passed away, I
1902
01:42:49.590 --> 01:42:53.149
inherited her house and there were spirits in the house.
1903
01:42:53.189 --> 01:42:55.260
And of course, because of the sickness and some of
1904
01:42:55.300 --> 01:43:00.159
the negativity that exudes from a person suffering with that
1905
01:43:00.239 --> 01:43:04.539
sort of thing was in the house also. So When
1906
01:43:04.579 --> 01:43:07.520
I went back to her house with my son, we
1907
01:43:07.539 --> 01:43:09.739
went in with all of the bells and whistles. When
1908
01:43:09.760 --> 01:43:13.640
I clear houses, I use a fire component. I like
1909
01:43:13.659 --> 01:43:16.539
to use a fire component because it sucks in oxygen.
1910
01:43:16.739 --> 01:43:19.500
And a lot of times spirits that are floating are
1911
01:43:19.600 --> 01:43:21.619
in that oxygen and they get sucked in the pan
1912
01:43:21.640 --> 01:43:24.239
and stuck in the stuff that's in the bottom. So
1913
01:43:24.770 --> 01:43:28.050
normally I go in, I crack a door, I let
1914
01:43:28.069 --> 01:43:32.319
them know that they're free to leave. on their own. However,
1915
01:43:32.380 --> 01:43:34.560
if they choose not to leave, they're going to leave
1916
01:43:34.640 --> 01:43:36.439
one way or the other, and it would be better
1917
01:43:36.479 --> 01:43:39.100
for them to go by themselves. So I go in,
1918
01:43:39.140 --> 01:43:43.289
bells and whistles, do the fire component, clear the house completely.
1919
01:43:43.310 --> 01:43:45.930
Of course, there were a couple of disembodied souls in
1920
01:43:45.970 --> 01:43:48.869
there too that ended up in the pan. They did leave,
1921
01:43:48.909 --> 01:43:54.020
but there was this one entity that was in her
1922
01:43:54.069 --> 01:43:58.789
house that I had never, ever experienced anything like that
1923
01:43:59.289 --> 01:44:03.930
before in my life. And it was basically mocking us,
1924
01:44:04.310 --> 01:44:06.840
because it was like, is that all you got, you know,
1925
01:44:06.989 --> 01:44:10.420
kind of thing. My son and I are, my son
1926
01:44:10.460 --> 01:44:13.619
and I are standing in the hallway of my sister's room,
1927
01:44:13.659 --> 01:44:15.640
I was standing in the doorway of the bathroom, he
1928
01:44:15.680 --> 01:44:19.159
was in the master bedroom doorway. And there was this
1929
01:44:19.220 --> 01:44:23.039
third bedroom, and we see this little thing under three
1930
01:44:23.060 --> 01:44:26.960
feet tall, walk past us. It looked like one of
1931
01:44:27.020 --> 01:44:31.600
the bankers on Hogwarts on Harry Potter, just like that.
1932
01:44:31.689 --> 01:44:34.789
And it's a Bogart is what it is. And it
1933
01:44:35.270 --> 01:44:37.409
crossed in front of us, crossed in front of him
1934
01:44:37.430 --> 01:44:40.149
and went into my sister's room. I see this and
1935
01:44:40.170 --> 01:44:42.010
I don't say anything. And my son says, all of
1936
01:44:42.050 --> 01:44:45.430
a sudden he says, did you just see Hogwarts pass by?
1937
01:44:45.449 --> 01:44:48.390
And I said, yes, I did. And then he comes
1938
01:44:48.449 --> 01:44:50.550
back out and he passes my son again. And in
1939
01:44:50.609 --> 01:44:53.239
front of me, goes back to the third bedroom. A
1940
01:44:54.420 --> 01:44:56.770
little while later, a few minutes later, he comes back
1941
01:44:56.909 --> 01:44:58.829
out and crosses in front of us again and goes
1942
01:44:58.909 --> 01:45:03.189
back into my sister's bedroom. Only this time there was
1943
01:45:03.210 --> 01:45:07.949
the ectoplasmic portal misting. And in the misting were these
1944
01:45:08.449 --> 01:45:12.239
faces of people that were in a wreath shape that
1945
01:45:12.260 --> 01:45:16.239
were just kind of bobbing there like, like balloons. And, um,
1946
01:45:17.630 --> 01:45:20.970
I have a half sister, my dad from another marriage,
1947
01:45:21.189 --> 01:45:23.670
I have a half sister and she had stayed there too.
1948
01:45:23.750 --> 01:45:26.369
And at one point she had made mention to validate this,
1949
01:45:26.729 --> 01:45:28.489
that she was laying in bed and she doesn't even
1950
01:45:28.529 --> 01:45:31.430
believe in any of this kind of stuff. She's starting
1951
01:45:31.470 --> 01:45:34.170
to now because she actually saw things in the house too,
1952
01:45:35.050 --> 01:45:37.130
where she was sleeping in bed and she woke up
1953
01:45:37.189 --> 01:45:40.090
and this wreath thing of people's faces was hovering over
1954
01:45:40.149 --> 01:45:44.659
the bed. And I heard her praying and singing hymns.
1955
01:45:44.960 --> 01:45:46.960
And I wondered why she was doing that. And she
1956
01:45:47.020 --> 01:45:49.840
explained to me that during the night she saw this
1957
01:45:49.960 --> 01:45:51.659
over her bed and she was doing it to make
1958
01:45:51.720 --> 01:45:54.560
it leave. And what she didn't realize is the Bogart
1959
01:45:54.590 --> 01:45:56.590
was standing next to her bed, but the bed was
1960
01:45:56.619 --> 01:45:58.930
so high that she couldn't see him. She could just
1961
01:45:58.970 --> 01:46:01.630
see what he was carrying along with him. So it
1962
01:46:01.670 --> 01:46:07.170
was validated because I also saw those. So I reach
1963
01:46:07.310 --> 01:46:12.579
out to Cisco and, And she directed me to Brian
1964
01:46:12.600 --> 01:46:18.619
Bowden for remote viewing. And I also reached out to
1965
01:46:18.680 --> 01:46:22.619
another friend of ours, Jim Rupert, and his wife for
1966
01:46:22.659 --> 01:46:26.060
remote viewing. Two separate people in two completely different states
1967
01:46:26.079 --> 01:46:29.050
that didn't even know each other. And I'm being told
1968
01:46:29.090 --> 01:46:33.829
the same thing, that there's something in the bedroom that...
1969
01:46:34.130 --> 01:46:37.069
he's coming to get that belongs to him. And my
1970
01:46:37.149 --> 01:46:42.239
sister had inadvertently picked up this ugly rock from outside
1971
01:46:42.260 --> 01:46:45.739
that was in the third bedroom. And I picked it up.
1972
01:46:45.779 --> 01:46:48.319
And at one point, I mean, I even considered throwing
1973
01:46:48.359 --> 01:46:52.439
it away, but it had this really strange energy about it.
1974
01:46:52.479 --> 01:46:54.279
When I picked it up in my hand, it was
1975
01:46:54.340 --> 01:46:57.909
very strong. And I'm like, nope, there's something about this rock.
1976
01:46:57.970 --> 01:46:59.869
I'm not going to throw it away and thank God
1977
01:46:59.930 --> 01:47:03.060
I didn't or I'd probably be dead by now with
1978
01:47:03.380 --> 01:47:05.039
all of the things that that thing could have done.
1979
01:47:06.060 --> 01:47:10.619
But he wanted his rock back and my sister inadvertently
1980
01:47:10.739 --> 01:47:13.399
left it in her house. And I really think that
1981
01:47:13.500 --> 01:47:18.529
he added to her sickness because I found out that
1982
01:47:18.590 --> 01:47:21.770
all of the people prior to my sister living in
1983
01:47:21.789 --> 01:47:26.369
the house had foreclosed on the house. Excuse me. And
1984
01:47:27.949 --> 01:47:30.409
in my sister's case, she paid cash for the house.
1985
01:47:30.939 --> 01:47:34.420
So no matter what the Bogart did to get her
1986
01:47:34.600 --> 01:47:37.439
out of the house and to deplete her of money
1987
01:47:37.500 --> 01:47:40.520
and her illness and everything like that, she was stuck
1988
01:47:40.539 --> 01:47:43.640
because she didn't have money to go anywhere else. So
1989
01:47:43.819 --> 01:47:46.930
it was the opposite effect. So we found out that
1990
01:47:46.939 --> 01:47:50.189
it was this rock. And so we took the rock
1991
01:47:50.909 --> 01:47:53.109
and went, my son took the rock to carry it
1992
01:47:53.189 --> 01:47:55.960
outside to put it in the back near a shed
1993
01:47:56.100 --> 01:47:58.619
so that it would be in a private space. And
1994
01:47:58.680 --> 01:48:01.579
as he's walking, this little thing is behind him flinging
1995
01:48:01.659 --> 01:48:05.079
vines on his legs. And my son's like, yeah, something's
1996
01:48:05.180 --> 01:48:07.000
itchy on my legs. And I'm like, well, yeah, he's
1997
01:48:07.060 --> 01:48:10.609
behind you flinging these vines on your legs as my
1998
01:48:10.649 --> 01:48:12.329
son's going out the door with the rock and the
1999
01:48:12.369 --> 01:48:15.470
thing's very anxious and following along and very concerned about
2000
01:48:15.529 --> 01:48:18.829
his rock. In the meantime, I open the door and
2001
01:48:18.869 --> 01:48:22.500
I say to the spirits, I'm like, okay, daddy's gone.
2002
01:48:22.920 --> 01:48:25.319
You know, this is your time to cross over. Please
2003
01:48:25.359 --> 01:48:27.619
look up, connect with your cord and go to the light.
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01:48:27.659 --> 01:48:29.729
Your loved ones are waiting for you. I mean, some
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01:48:29.770 --> 01:48:33.310
of these people had been there centuries for centuries that
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01:48:33.329 --> 01:48:36.409
he had been collecting along the way of people that
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01:48:36.449 --> 01:48:39.430
were disembodied souls or of a lower level that he
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01:48:39.470 --> 01:48:44.149
was collecting for his own entertainment, for that matter. So anyway,
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01:48:44.189 --> 01:48:50.989
what I found out was that, of course, these elementals
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01:48:51.050 --> 01:48:53.770
were created at the time that the earth was created.
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01:48:53.890 --> 01:48:58.789
So the spiritual things and religious things that came after
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01:48:58.970 --> 01:49:03.329
didn't work on them because they weren't part of that world.
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01:49:03.510 --> 01:49:07.859
So they needed to be handled differently. In this case,
2014
01:49:07.939 --> 01:49:11.850
we still currently have the resident Bogart, and he's very
2015
01:49:11.890 --> 01:49:15.689
happy getting Oreos and alcohol and tobacco, and he's leaving
2016
01:49:15.750 --> 01:49:18.529
everybody alone as long as we leave him alone. My
2017
01:49:18.590 --> 01:49:22.079
sister's got a large two-acre lot, and we've dedicated an
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01:49:22.199 --> 01:49:25.899
area for him that nobody touches other than walking in
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01:49:25.960 --> 01:49:28.859
to give him his daily treat or something like that.
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01:49:29.359 --> 01:49:33.750
And he has actually even kept... the yard protected, I believe,
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01:49:33.989 --> 01:49:37.100
because no coyotes are coming in or alligators because the
2022
01:49:37.149 --> 01:49:40.760
alligators come under the fence or anything like that. So
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01:49:40.800 --> 01:49:43.420
this was my first time experiencing that. And of course,
2024
01:49:44.140 --> 01:49:46.819
on one of the shows that I was on with Cisco,
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01:49:46.920 --> 01:49:49.930
she put the fear in this Bogart. And I'm so
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01:49:49.979 --> 01:49:52.789
thankful to her because she's such a magnificent woman. She
2027
01:49:52.810 --> 01:49:57.130
has so many gifts and abilities. And we had a show,
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01:49:57.430 --> 01:50:02.020
Brian Bowden was also on the show. And she said
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01:50:02.100 --> 01:50:05.229
right out. And the thing, what was is I felt
2030
01:50:05.409 --> 01:50:08.130
the frequency change in my ear. So I knew that
2031
01:50:08.170 --> 01:50:10.729
the Bogart was standing next to me during that show.
2032
01:50:10.789 --> 01:50:13.289
And all of a sudden Brian says, he's standing right
2033
01:50:13.329 --> 01:50:15.369
there next to you. And I'm like, yeah, he is.
2034
01:50:16.250 --> 01:50:20.569
And Cisco said out loud, she basically told him, you know,
2035
01:50:20.590 --> 01:50:24.949
I can bring an army of people over there to
2036
01:50:24.989 --> 01:50:27.920
take care of business. Basically, you know, if you don't
2037
01:50:28.000 --> 01:50:32.000
knock it off and, um, And the thing was taken
2038
01:50:32.039 --> 01:50:35.439
back by her power and what she was saying. And
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01:50:35.479 --> 01:50:39.960
he knew not to mess with Cisco. So that was very,
2040
01:50:40.000 --> 01:50:42.939
very helpful as well. And then we ended up being
2041
01:50:43.050 --> 01:50:46.029
able to barter with it, which I, again, had never
2042
01:50:46.090 --> 01:50:49.050
come across anything like that before in my life. But
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01:50:49.109 --> 01:50:52.770
elementals are real people. They really do exist. There is
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01:50:52.810 --> 01:50:57.670
a realm for that. And yeah, they're the guardians of
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01:50:57.710 --> 01:51:00.279
the forest and they make your garden grow. So You
2046
01:51:00.300 --> 01:51:02.640
need to be nice to them and, you know, leave
2047
01:51:02.659 --> 01:51:03.579
them treats every once.
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01:51:03.520 --> 01:51:04.060
In a while.
2049
01:51:04.159 --> 01:51:04.319
Indeed.
2050
01:51:04.399 --> 01:51:08.539
I had a run-in encounter with some sort of elemental
2051
01:51:08.600 --> 01:51:11.770
when I was eight years old. And then again at 15,
2052
01:51:11.770 --> 01:51:15.130
later found out through a Ouija board session that other
2053
01:51:15.170 --> 01:51:18.750
people were having that it was a naiad, a guardian
2054
01:51:18.789 --> 01:51:22.010
of the water. And it chased me out of the woods.
2055
01:51:22.050 --> 01:51:22.590
I couldn't see it.
2056
01:51:22.590 --> 01:51:25.359
But this thing, it wasn't a little gossamer fairy. It
2057
01:51:25.399 --> 01:51:28.289
wasn't like a tinkerbell or something like that. It wasn't
2058
01:51:28.329 --> 01:51:30.779
a wispy thing. It was big. I couldn't see it,
2059
01:51:31.409 --> 01:51:33.029
but I could see the leaves being kicked up in
2060
01:51:33.090 --> 01:51:35.310
its wake. I could see the branches a lot higher
2061
01:51:35.350 --> 01:51:39.029
than my eight-year-old head being parted where this thing was
2062
01:51:39.069 --> 01:51:43.170
coming up out of this ditch after me. But that's
2063
01:51:43.189 --> 01:51:45.560
something you don't hear a lot about are the elementals.
2064
01:51:45.619 --> 01:51:48.180
I mean, people think of the fae folk as, like
2065
01:51:48.199 --> 01:51:51.500
I said, little fairies and little friendly things, but they're not.
2066
01:51:51.539 --> 01:51:52.060
They're evil.
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01:51:52.140 --> 01:51:55.899
They're tricksters. And I believe that there's validity in that.
2068
01:51:55.939 --> 01:51:58.239
There are other things out there that aren't ghosts, that
2069
01:51:58.279 --> 01:52:01.739
aren't spirits per se, but things out there that you
2070
01:52:01.779 --> 01:52:03.899
don't want to mess with them in their realm because
2071
01:52:03.939 --> 01:52:04.340
they've got.
2072
01:52:04.239 --> 01:52:04.869
A lot of power.
2073
01:52:05.310 --> 01:52:07.869
Yes, they do. And, you know, there's a difference between
2074
01:52:08.289 --> 01:52:15.329
fairies and fairies, F-A-E-R-Y. The F-A-E-R-Y are the little tricksters
2075
01:52:15.390 --> 01:52:18.010
that are kind of nasty. And the fairies are really.
2076
01:52:19.430 --> 01:52:22.020
You know, they can be tricksters, too, but not to
2077
01:52:22.060 --> 01:52:27.220
the nastiness degree of the fairies. So, you know, I've
2078
01:52:27.260 --> 01:52:29.720
learned that as well. But there is there is so
2079
01:52:29.800 --> 01:52:34.890
much more energies and other lives that are coexisting with
2080
01:52:34.989 --> 01:52:39.369
us and paralleling our lives that we're totally even unaware of. And,
2081
01:52:39.689 --> 01:52:41.850
you know, I'm glad that you have shows like this
2082
01:52:42.409 --> 01:52:45.770
to enlighten people because it's so important. And a lot
2083
01:52:45.810 --> 01:52:48.720
of paranormal groups that are listening to this show today,
2084
01:52:48.739 --> 01:52:51.439
you know, you may go in and try to clear something.
2085
01:52:51.520 --> 01:52:53.760
And if it doesn't leave it, it's not the people's
2086
01:52:53.819 --> 01:52:56.779
fault that it didn't leave. It might be, but it
2087
01:52:56.840 --> 01:52:59.060
could be an elemental. And if it is, you need
2088
01:52:59.079 --> 01:53:01.699
to deal with it on another level, which leaves me
2089
01:53:01.750 --> 01:53:03.689
with one more thing really quick. I want to say too,
2090
01:53:03.770 --> 01:53:06.289
that I bring this up and Cisco has been bringing
2091
01:53:06.329 --> 01:53:09.949
this up too. And it's so important. You know, people
2092
01:53:09.989 --> 01:53:12.149
go in, you see so many people go into homes
2093
01:53:12.210 --> 01:53:16.000
and they present with this persona of toughness. where bring
2094
01:53:16.039 --> 01:53:19.699
it on basically. And what they don't realize is that
2095
01:53:19.720 --> 01:53:23.109
that is also a negative and the entities can feed
2096
01:53:23.250 --> 01:53:25.689
off of that negativity as well, which you don't want
2097
01:53:25.729 --> 01:53:29.270
them to because they can do more physical acts. But
2098
01:53:29.550 --> 01:53:34.840
in addition to that, When you're entering into someone else's home,
2099
01:53:34.880 --> 01:53:37.899
whether it's a spirit's home or not, please and thank
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01:53:37.920 --> 01:53:41.060
you is so important. And approaching in a loving manner,
2101
01:53:41.079 --> 01:53:43.140
for one thing, it'll keep the negative ones away and
2102
01:53:43.180 --> 01:53:47.079
allow the ones that aren't negative to come forward. So
2103
01:53:47.119 --> 01:53:50.159
many people walk in and they're like, oh, touch Blinky.
2104
01:53:50.850 --> 01:53:54.149
So the spirit complies and they touch Blinky and Blinky
2105
01:53:54.189 --> 01:53:57.130
goes off and they, oh, look, look, it's Blinky, it's Blinky.
2106
01:53:57.210 --> 01:54:01.229
So They ask them again. Oh, well, we didn't get that. Here,
2107
01:54:01.310 --> 01:54:03.189
do it again just to make sure it's not a fluke.
2108
01:54:03.250 --> 01:54:05.930
And they touch Blinky again and Blinky goes all off
2109
01:54:05.949 --> 01:54:07.829
and they're like, oh, oh, did you see that? Well,
2110
01:54:08.109 --> 01:54:10.260
let's ask again just to make sure one more time
2111
01:54:10.319 --> 01:54:12.199
it's not a fluke. And then they wonder why these
2112
01:54:12.260 --> 01:54:15.159
spirits are screaming for them to get out. These are
2113
01:54:15.220 --> 01:54:19.619
not trained monkeys, people. These are spirits that have been
2114
01:54:19.680 --> 01:54:23.460
embodied at one form, maybe even very highly educated people
2115
01:54:23.779 --> 01:54:26.609
that have chosen not to cross over. And they need
2116
01:54:26.649 --> 01:54:29.060
to be treated differently. the same way that you would
2117
01:54:29.069 --> 01:54:31.399
want to be treated with respect. And when you go
2118
01:54:31.520 --> 01:54:34.000
in with that, I have found, you know, that even
2119
01:54:34.020 --> 01:54:37.279
in homes or people doing investigations or helping with things
2120
01:54:37.319 --> 01:54:41.359
like that, that you get more from them than you
2121
01:54:41.399 --> 01:54:43.520
would if you went in the other way. They are
2122
01:54:43.560 --> 01:54:46.380
attracted to your love and your light and your gentleness
2123
01:54:46.539 --> 01:54:50.439
and your respect. And they will give you 10 times
2124
01:54:50.560 --> 01:54:54.939
more than what you're actually getting the other way. So
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01:54:55.039 --> 01:54:58.020
that's something to, is to take, please take a different
2126
01:54:58.060 --> 01:55:00.670
approach and show your loving light when you go in.
2127
01:55:03.869 --> 01:55:05.550
Yeah. And I believe that's sage advice.
2128
01:55:05.609 --> 01:55:09.029
And again, people that do these investigations and going into
2129
01:55:09.069 --> 01:55:12.399
places and stuff, if you don't know what you're messing with,
2130
01:55:12.819 --> 01:55:15.859
you should really take care, take caution or otherwise, you know,
2131
01:55:15.880 --> 01:55:18.020
like you said, it could attach itself to them.
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01:55:18.060 --> 01:55:18.899
They can take it.
2133
01:55:18.920 --> 01:55:21.579
Out of there, but take it home with them, which
2134
01:55:21.680 --> 01:55:25.029
was not the intention and intent. plays a lot of
2135
01:55:25.069 --> 01:55:27.829
role in this Cisco. And I've talked a lot about that,
2136
01:55:28.689 --> 01:55:30.850
but even, you know, they say the road to hell
2137
01:55:30.930 --> 01:55:33.930
is paved with good intentions. So if you don't know
2138
01:55:33.989 --> 01:55:37.010
what you're messing with, this is just my random unsolicited
2139
01:55:37.069 --> 01:55:39.609
advice to anybody out there, get somebody in there that
2140
01:55:39.670 --> 01:55:43.119
does know what they're dealing with and how to take.
2141
01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:43.470
Care of it.
2142
01:55:44.239 --> 01:55:47.460
Absolutely. I totally agree on that. And people don't realize too,
2143
01:55:47.479 --> 01:55:49.600
when they're first starting out, you know, you get that
2144
01:55:49.640 --> 01:55:51.880
first moment where you have a connection with a spirit,
2145
01:55:51.920 --> 01:55:55.569
you get the willies. And the willies are radiating for
2146
01:55:55.590 --> 01:55:59.229
the negative stuff to follow. So like Steve said, you
2147
01:55:59.270 --> 01:56:01.130
really need to know what you're doing and you really
2148
01:56:01.210 --> 01:56:06.029
need to be prepared and ready for it. It's not
2149
01:56:06.069 --> 01:56:09.039
just that kind of moment that you get that thrill
2150
01:56:09.079 --> 01:56:12.380
in the willies for a minute. You are taking a
2151
01:56:12.439 --> 01:56:16.699
risk every time that you present yourself in a situation
2152
01:56:16.760 --> 01:56:20.279
like that. of something coming home with you or being attached,
2153
01:56:20.720 --> 01:56:23.340
you know, and they will create havoc in your life.
2154
01:56:23.399 --> 01:56:24.699
That is for sure if they do.
2155
01:56:24.720 --> 01:56:27.840
Yeah, not anything to be taken lightly or to do
2156
01:56:27.899 --> 01:56:31.520
for fun or entertainment. The people that do this, like
2157
01:56:31.560 --> 01:56:34.550
Cisco and Sir Brian Bowden and others that you mentioned there,
2158
01:56:35.090 --> 01:56:38.090
it's an avocation. They're called to do this, I think,
2159
01:56:38.649 --> 01:56:41.289
and they can't help but do what they do because
2160
01:56:41.390 --> 01:56:44.449
they don't have a choice, I think. And people have
2161
01:56:44.529 --> 01:56:46.899
asked me that, like, You know, why do you choose
2162
01:56:46.949 --> 01:56:49.869
to talk about all these paranormal things? Are you able
2163
01:56:49.890 --> 01:56:52.609
to show everything out there? And like, who's to say
2164
01:56:52.630 --> 01:56:54.470
it was a choice? I think it chose me. It
2165
01:56:55.289 --> 01:56:56.329
was the other way around.
2166
01:56:57.029 --> 01:57:00.890
Yes, and it's so important, Steve. I admire you and
2167
01:57:00.930 --> 01:57:05.270
I appreciate you for having this radio show and all
2168
01:57:05.289 --> 01:57:07.609
of the things that you do in the paranormal community
2169
01:57:08.899 --> 01:57:12.140
to bring this to light because this is really something
2170
01:57:12.180 --> 01:57:15.079
that is very real and needs to be brought to light.
2171
01:57:15.159 --> 01:57:18.149
I think if people have the awareness of this, it
2172
01:57:18.170 --> 01:57:21.270
could actually even make our world better, a better place
2173
01:57:21.329 --> 01:57:24.439
to live with the, um, with the knowledge of you
2174
01:57:24.500 --> 01:57:28.380
being responsible for your thoughts, for being loving, even to
2175
01:57:28.399 --> 01:57:32.600
the spirit realms that parallel us and sometimes are in
2176
01:57:32.659 --> 01:57:35.520
our lives as well. So it is important. This is,
2177
01:57:35.600 --> 01:57:38.729
this is your, your ground, your breaking ground on some very,
2178
01:57:38.770 --> 01:57:42.550
very important things. And I, I don't totally support you
2179
01:57:42.609 --> 01:57:43.289
and admire you.
2180
01:57:44.050 --> 01:57:44.510
Well, thank you.
2181
01:57:44.529 --> 01:57:48.069
I appreciate that. Lynn, And we're almost out of time here.
2182
01:57:48.090 --> 01:57:51.699
This two hours just flew by, but thanks for coming on.
2183
01:57:51.760 --> 01:57:54.800
I certainly appreciate it. And I'll probably be joining you
2184
01:57:54.859 --> 01:57:58.640
over with Cisco sometime soon. Once again, in closing here,
2185
01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:00.800
let the people know where they can find you. I'll
2186
01:58:00.819 --> 01:58:03.050
put links for everything in the show notes, but where
2187
01:58:03.060 --> 01:58:06.329
they can find your books and where they can find you. Okay.
2188
01:58:06.409 --> 01:58:08.609
And thank you very, very much for having me on.
2189
01:58:08.630 --> 01:58:10.479
I would love to be on again. If ever you
2190
01:58:10.520 --> 01:58:13.600
need me to please reach out. They can find me
2191
01:58:13.680 --> 01:58:28.770
at www.lynmonet.com. There is a way to email me there.
2192
01:58:28.850 --> 01:58:32.369
I am doing consults for people that are concerned about attachments,
2193
01:58:32.649 --> 01:58:36.250
also for haunted houses to try to guide them. I
2194
01:58:36.789 --> 01:58:41.920
do have the ability to remove attachments online. And, you know,
2195
01:58:41.979 --> 01:58:45.340
I've been helping a lot of people with that also.
2196
01:58:45.399 --> 01:58:47.680
So you can reach out to me that way through
2197
01:58:47.699 --> 01:58:51.960
my website. I'm currently getting ready to start the MACE classes,
2198
01:58:52.060 --> 01:58:54.899
which is the MEM, which is the inner shifting for
2199
01:58:54.960 --> 01:58:59.050
people that are struggling with post-traumatic stress. It's a wonderful
2200
01:58:59.229 --> 01:59:02.630
thing that can be done. In a session where you
2201
01:59:02.670 --> 01:59:05.390
don't have to go through counseling, a lot of counseling,
2202
01:59:05.430 --> 01:59:08.529
it can be done in one session simply by shifting people.
2203
01:59:08.970 --> 01:59:10.970
But I know that we're running out of time here,
2204
01:59:11.029 --> 01:59:13.390
so I will just leave it with that. And thank
2205
01:59:13.430 --> 01:59:15.510
you so very much. Oh, and my books can be
2206
01:59:15.569 --> 01:59:18.090
found on Amazon, some of them, some of them on
2207
01:59:18.130 --> 01:59:21.229
my website only. So please reach out to me if
2208
01:59:21.270 --> 01:59:24.039
you need. So thank you so very much for having me, Steve.
2209
01:59:24.340 --> 01:59:25.119
Thanks again, Lynn.
2210
01:59:25.199 --> 01:59:27.819
Very, very fascinating. We covered some new ground here for
2211
01:59:27.840 --> 01:59:30.630
a lot of listeners, I'm sure. But I'm going to
2212
01:59:30.670 --> 01:59:32.470
go ahead and get us on out of here.
2213
01:59:33.029 --> 01:59:33.970
I'm Steve Stockton.
2214
01:59:34.029 --> 01:59:36.579
You've been listening to everything out there on the Clyde
2215
01:59:36.619 --> 01:59:39.539
Lewis Ground Zero Radio Network. I'll see you a little
2216
01:59:39.560 --> 01:59:42.579
further on down the trail. Tell your animals I said hi.
2217
01:59:42.699 --> 01:59:43.439
Good night, everybody.