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It's so important for people to see new people, but it's also important for people to see the dogs that's been overlooked.
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Yes.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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It's so important.
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You were fighting for them.
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Yeah, and I be fighting for him.
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That's why he has a producer credit.
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Yo, man, I'm telling I was in these rooms and they were like, hey, such and such has a good following.
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And I was like, that's great.
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But have you seen this?
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Because this is a stand-up show.
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At the end of the day, who's gonna do the job?
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You need people you can trust.
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They going, hey man, but I really like this person.
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Have they ever filmed themselves doing stand-up?
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Have they acted?
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Have they ever had a camera right here while they have to do the thing that they have to do?
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Stand-up is difficult.
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It is difficult.
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And I learned this whenever I shot all deaf comedy.
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When they brought Def Comedy Jam back, that's right, I did that too.
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We're gonna get on.
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We start to gush us now, baby.
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When you film stand up, it's you.
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Clubs are set up for you to win.
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They can put the audience in the dark.
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They put the spotlight on you.
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There's ways to ignore what's happening in the room.
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When you film for TV, you see everything.
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You see the face of every person in that room.
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You see every camera.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And there's people in the room who don't like comedy, but they heard Comic View was shooting, and I want to be on camera.
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So now you ain't even in front of comedy fans.
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You gotta be so good that you make who don't usually do this laugh.
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Why would I put somebody up who only performs in front of their fans?
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Right.
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Your fans aren't here.
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It's not gonna go like you think it's gonna go.
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What's up, y'all?
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Killin' it is coming live to Flappers Comedy Club November 11th.
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That's right.
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We all hitting the stage and we slanging them jokes.
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Be slanging dick after the show, too.
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Hey, hey, hey, hey.
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Come on, ladies, pull up.
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No, get the tickets.
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Don't come by yourself, man.
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Get the tickets.
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You've been watching us online.
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Catch us live.
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Get them tickets right now, flapperscomedy.com.
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Do you have a you have a homie who do what you do?
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Not like that.
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I only hang with him.
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Yeah, like we done turned, we just turned to friendship.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Well, yeah, and he shot my he shot my uh I I I hosted Thanksgiving like a few weeks after that, and he came with his lady and he shot everything.
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My family got recorded it, everything.
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Because he was shooting everything.
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He live events, weddings, everything.
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He shoot the whole thing.
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But after I started seeing his work from working together, I was like, I was like, hey man, too bad you can't do this full time.
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He was like, I I can quit my job.
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It's not let's talk about it.
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Let's talk about it.
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And that's the type of person you gotta have.
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A person that's just like they see the vision.
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They're like, Hey, cool too.
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Yeah because the the it's a certain amount of trust and a certain amount of action.
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A lot of boy.
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Yeah, you got boy.
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Man, he's so good at editing stuff before I even get it.
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It's not gonna be editing.
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He's so good at editing.
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I've I I used to go, uh, hey, make sure you're like, come on, man.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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But that's that's my whole thing, because I, you know, I reached out to people online.
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Or even when it comes to like having an assistant, all those things are cool, but it is I know that lots of people willing to do it, but it's the trust thing.
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I mean, I mean, so you think about assistants, they gotta have your cards, your info.
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I don't need no woman tripping when I want to send flowers because she's looking at me and two of them sending all of that kind of stuff.
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Who do you think sending flowers too?
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My mother.
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With the Speedy, the Speedy Mormon.
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That's hilarious.
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Hey man, you want to kick it off or you Oh, bro, man.
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Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
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Hell! So listen, um Thank you for uh tuning in to Killing It, man.
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Uh I'm very, very excited.
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Uh we have a nut we got a we I'm one of your hosts.
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My name is B.T.
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Kingsley.
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It's London, bro.
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Justin Hyes.
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And you know, when you the show, the concept, the the the whole idea of the show is very specific.
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Are you killing it?
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Either you are killing it right now, you were killing it, or you're clearly about to be killing it.
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That's always been the idea of the goal.
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Some of the comics that want to do the show, we love you, bro.
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Just give us a second or or make us force our hand.
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Sometimes they force your hand.
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We had a couple forces recently.
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It was a it was a couple, I mean, it happened this fast.
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It'd be like, you you'd be like, man, they don't have me on the pad.
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Next day we'd be like, hey, man, can you please do the pod?
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We will switch it up, bro.
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I promise you, right?
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We coming.
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We will call you.
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This situation basically the show is called Killing It's Not Doing Sh is everybody's doing it.
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And it's not killing it on stage.
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This ain't about you not being funny.
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I swear to God, it's not.
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We know the hilarious that is not doing this.
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If your credit is being on killing it, then you can't be on killing it.
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Okay.
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So the dude that that we have today is a pioneer of our generation.
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He is one of the best in the business by far.
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Argue with your mama.
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You hey, you heard what they said on that show.
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You heard the list, baby.
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Um, so many credits.
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Uh hey, we gotta.
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I'm about to get we gotta start doing better.
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I got I got the credits.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, go host.
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I gotta do you right.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I wish we had the gunshots.
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I wish we had the gunshots.
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Put them in the edit.
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We gotta have the gunshots in the post.
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Host of black comedy in America.
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Your enthusiasm, insecure, all deaf comedy.
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On YouTube right now.
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Underrated four million views.
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Can we say what you about to be on?
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Yeah.
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The upcoming season of Comic View.
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I'm a man of woman and only.
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What else?
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Anything else?
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Producer of Comic View.
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What is happening, bro?
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How you how you doing?
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How you feeling, man?
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I'm feeling good, man.
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Surprisingly.
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Surprisingly.
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It's a little early for me, but yeah, yeah.
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You had something you was uh you was you was talking about before we got on, but uh when me and Linda were sitting here.
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I'ma tell you, man, it's a lot of people uh don't understand how important this show is.
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When I was going through what I was going through to get my special off the ground, and then it and then I put it out myself and and uh was trying to get the word out about it.
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Which looks great.
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It looked great, bro.
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It was great.
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You was the first one of the first people to say something about it.
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I was just, I was just, it got sent to me.
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It was on y'all's pod.
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They were like, y'all were like, yo, I like what uh Ryan is doing.
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And y'all shouted it out.
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I was like, oh, I like these, man.
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I like because man, it it don't cost nothing to show love.
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And man, we didn't, none of us had had a conversation about it or anything.
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And it was just like, I don't know, man.
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It just it really meant a lot to me.
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And I was like, man, I can't wait to get in a room with y'all to tell y'all, man.
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Because that was before it was on YouTube, anything.
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That was when I would just released it on Patreon.
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Yeah.
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And y'all, y'all was that was a year ago.
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Yeah, man.
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Well, you you always been a solid dude, bro, at least with me.
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Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
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And so I I'm the same way, it don't take nothing to share somebody, highlight somebody.
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When people don't like uh praise, like uh salute somebody, congratulate somebody, it really speaks more about their own insecurities.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, you know, their own insecurities and envy and stuff like that, but you know what I'm saying?
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You just you're a funny dude, bruh, and you you get in that the mud and it just is what it is.
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Yeah, and and they don't know what it takes, too.
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It's like to do it the way that you're doing it is also very different.
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And on top of that, as we build in this thing, as it's content creator, uh individual, it's the system and the industry and pulling away and so on and so forth, the other thing that has to be built out is uh the media aspect of it.
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So it's like you create something and in LA, it was just like this huge gap.
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It was like, wait a minute.
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So if you live here and you produce something, you gotta go do 85 South or Joe Buddh or the Breakfast Club or Hot Night South.
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You gotta go all the way to the East Coast.
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What do you do over here?
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And it was it was nothing.
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And it was like, nigga, nothing.
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No, no, no.
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We we we we we we have we want a non-salacious place where you can come and talk to space because it's too much information that needs to be shared.
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Uh Justin, I know you got a bunch of I mean humor in heart is what this podcast is.
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Giggle, you know, you know, and also to what you know, to what Justin was saying, it's just like it takes nothing to really show to show that kind of love and acknowledgement.
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You know, and uh that's why when I saw your vulnerability was showing love to Ron T.
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Yeah.
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Bro, I was like, you know, I can I can see because you know, you know, Cats.
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Ron Taylor Ron Taylor, you know, uh shout out to Ron Taylor, man, who just won um Funny AF.
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Funny AF, man, and and doing his thing.
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And so, um but what was dope about that was when you part of what this what we're doing here on this podcast, and you'll you'll you'll recognize as we get towards the when we get towards the end of the interview here or the podcast is just that being able to project where where you see yourself and be t go into go into those details later.
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But the fact that y'all was in that car, what's going on, how do you see it?
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What's going on?
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And and going back and just the vision of that and walking and having that conversation early on, and then to see you show and give those flowers to to Ron Taylor like that was just dope, man, because a lot of cats be feeling, you know, it's a it's a dangerous thing because especially if you if you you rock with somebody early on and then you start looking at them, you be like, oh, they they they they they passing me.
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Yeah, you get all get weird.
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It gets funny.
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It gets funny, bro.
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And Ron never got weird with me, man.
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Right.
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People do.
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People do people do, people do.
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They're like, man, I want to see you make it.
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Then they go, hey man, you making it too much to help for what for what I for where I am right now.
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I'm not comfortable with what I'm seeing.
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I'm like, I'm not doing anything.
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And watching my brothers like just move, and I'm like, who are you referencing?
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Uh Nate Jackson, Matt Reif is like, these are my dogs.
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Like, I've known Matt since he was 15, bro.
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Like, when we used to go to the club, he was just a pimpley young kid, like, man, I love to get up.
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And DC Curry, my mentor, was like, yeah, let him get some time.
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Like, like, I I know him from way back then.
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We sh sharing the uh Wow, I didn't know that.
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What's the uh, you know, uh some clubs they give you a hotel, but some clubs got their own little condo selling, sharing the comedy condo.
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It was like it was like to see it happen that close, you have to be comfortable within your own skin.
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And so does someone and to to be able to show the love.
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Uh, we got a lot of shit to get together.
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Yeah, about to say, let's get into some questions.
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We're done sucking your shit.
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Oh, man.
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Let's get into some real shit.
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Let's get into some real shit.
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I've had enough of this.
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All right.
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Okay, right.
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When we talk about the special, bro.
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Um I want I know you discussed it on other platforms, but I want you to talk about why you decided to put it on YouTube, why Ali Sadiq, Ali Sadiq, you know, like what went behind that decision making.
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Okay, cool.
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And this is why I'm glad I'm talking to my peers, because you guys get this.
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All right.
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So me and Ali both shot independent around the same time.
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My special is actually filmed the same, around the same time.
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He filmed Domino Effect.
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Oh, shit, the first one.
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Yeah.
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In the in the uh special, I was like, my five-year-old son, that nigga turned nine Sunday.
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Do you understand what I'm saying?
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That's how old the special is.
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Man, and we just like I I got a like, me and Ali got a similar story as far as shopping it and stuff like that, and how they was treating us or whatever.
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Ali is just different than me.
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I'm more of a, I'm more of a whiner than Ali is.
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Ali is like, Ali is more like, fuck you then.
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I'll show you.
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Right.
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I mean, I was like, why this man did everything?
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I was supposed to do that.
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I did this and I did the whole time.
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I'm just whining.
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Ali done dropped three specials and it's going, it's going crazy in theaters now.
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He's like, waiting on your special, man.
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What's going on?
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Because he was supportive the whole time.
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He was like, man, just, you know.
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Right.
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And uh, you know, and then I start telling my story, and then I put it on Patreon and all of that.
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And he was like, when you putting it on YouTube?
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And I was like, man, to be honest with you, I couldn't even get in my YouTube account.
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It's over a quarter million followers.
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Wow.
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Subscribers, I couldn't even get into the account.
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And I was like, I'm gonna have to build something to uh monetize it so I can drop it there.
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He was like, and I Ali, me and Ali talk about working together a lot before, and he was like, I think sometimes uh because of the nature of what we do, you don't wanna uh offend somebody, you know, by offering to put it on your platform.
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And I think maybe that was what it was.
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It was like, you know, how would you feel about putting it on my platform?
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Some people might be like that was his suggestion, too.
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Yeah, and and some people might be like, What do you mean put it on yours?
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It'll do just fine.
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I was like, nah, absolutely.
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Ali don't do skits.
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He doesn't.
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Ali don't do nothing.
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Everybody on that page loves stand-up comedy.
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Loves stand-up comedy.
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Almost stand-up specials.
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And stand-up specials only.
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So I was like, that's the best possible place to put this.
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And he's not gonna offer it to everybody.
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No, he don't.
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Hey, everybody, everybody thinks that you could just call Ali and get a special on there.
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I I I have not talked to him about this, and I'm telling you, you can't.
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He's gonna have to be good.
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Quality's gonna have to be good, and you're gonna have to be great.
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Yeah, I'm one of the only ones.
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Me and Sidney Castillo are like one of the only ones.
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Uh Malik S2, but one of the only ones that you can got it on his platform without him shooting it himself, because he he is very particular.
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He won't put it on there if it don't look right.
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He won't put it on there if you don't have a good set.
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And some people will be like, man, I was I was doing my thing.
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I was killing.
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That's not what a special is.
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Special gotta have a through line.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean?
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This is I think a lot of people don't understand that.
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Like, I get on stage and I'm gonna just do material and then no, that's not how that works.
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Right.
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And you one of the you one of the best we got at it.
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Like, yeah, once BT start talking about something, I know it's not the end.
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I be waiting.
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I'll be like, nah, it's coming back.
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Yeah, it's coming back.
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You'll, man, you'll go through the whole, everything of what you're talking about.
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You know what I mean?
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What do you what do you think for those who are considering to uh to put out a special, can you break down that idea of the through line for as far as the special goes?
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So what is it that you're trying?
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I'll just use uh domino effect, the his original, Ali's original.
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That man told a story from when he was a kid all the way up to when he was in prison and the things he believed led to him going that way.
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You're right.
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That's literally the through line.
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He was like, this is how I got from here to there.
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And and in my special, it's this is this is how I see the world.
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This is this is what makes me this way.
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You're the building blocks.
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It's the building blocks.
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It's me, this is who my parents are, and then this is how I ended up being, and then becoming a parent, and because of that, this is how I see relationships.
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Right.
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And then that's the through line.
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And your special needs to really feel like one continuous conversation.
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If it doesn't feel like one continuous conversation, that's fine.
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It's just not gonna be considered special.
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So, so just so it I I it was like uh Dave Chappelle's um what was the one he did?
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Uh Unstoppable?
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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The older one or a newer one?
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It was, man, he did so many.
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It was when he first came back.
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It was one of the he did two when he first came back.
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Oh, Jay Simpson was.
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And then and then he did one right after that.
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Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
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So they got Bird Revelation, you got a right before Bird Revelation.
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Sticks and Stones.
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Classic.
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Sticks and Stones.
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When you see Sticks and Stones, yeah, that special, everything on that special was for that set.
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Yep.
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It was, it was, it was one performance.
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He even started it singing Prince 1999.
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It was so everything was on purpose.
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Yes.
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And that's what you have to do.
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Some people will go, I'm gonna take my best jokes and put don't worry about that.
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Make it one performance.
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Right.
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Make everything make sense for one performance.
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Because I realized that the best thing you can do, especially now, is keep people invested in what it is.
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And whenever you clip it, you can always get people to be like, oh, if you do a joke, if you clip the whole joke and put it out there, they feel like they saw the whole thing.
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But if I clip it and you can tell that there's more to it, they go, where do I go get the rest of this?
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Everybody, stop what you're doing right now.
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Make sure you subscribe to Killin' It Pie.
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Boom.
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And that's and I think that's the beauty of it.
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And then Ollie showed that you clip it, you can drop the whole special, but in part one, part two, part three, part four.
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And then people, when they see that, they go look for the other parts or they go look for the other thing.
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How you release your special matters.
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He showed me how to market it.
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When you set up your your press run, you get people talking about it all the time.
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And and luckily for me, the selling point, all I sold it on was, hey man, this is really good.
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You should look at this.
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Right.
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That was all my they were like, yeah, what else around?
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It's really good.
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Right.
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It's really good.
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It's really good.
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That's all I that's all I kept saying.
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And people would go, and I didn't realize how many people go, why he keep saying that?
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Why he think he really, I just go go watch it.
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And then if it's good, go see why it's not really good.
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They're like, I don't think it's that good.
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You you should watch it and see if it's really, because it's gonna get views regardless.
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And and this is the thing, man.
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I think um I I've been telling people for a while, I ain't think they were listening to me, but it don't matter because it's here now.
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I see it's here now.
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I said, the pendulum is swinging back.
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Yes, it is.
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If you know how to do stand-up, don't you worry.
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Just give it a second.
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Your time is coming.
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Your time is coming.
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And you'd be like, man, I don't know how to do all the other stuff.
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Well, you might not have to anymore because it's swinging back.
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Everybody's tired.
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Everybody's tired of going to see somebody just to be in the building.
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Yep.
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People are going, man, now I like stand-up.
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Where are the stand-up comics at?
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Tony Roberts sat right in that seat uh yesterday and said, There's fans and there's followers.
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He said, followers want to be here because you're here and they just want to see you live.
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Fans are people that want to see the art form that you create and watch you differently.
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And it's different.
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It's way different.
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And and and and the comedy clubs kind of bit themselves in the ass because they were so busy trying to fill the room, they st they lost quality control a little bit.
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So now, so so so so sometimes the audience is a little caught off guard.
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So I told somebody the other day, it's like we we always had this conversation.
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Comedy will hill itself.
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You was worried about the social media people, you worried about the crowd work, the story.
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Listen, listen, everybody relax.
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The reason, let me tell it.
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The reason that crowd work is so popular, storyteller with Ali is so popular, so on and so forth, is because we're back at the beginning of stand-up.
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Where a person sat down, watched a social media comedy, you're making me laugh on my phone, went and and saw them, and then they weren't good.
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So then when somebody's doing crowd work, they went and they watched you was like, Well, he has to be funny because he's on stage doing it and he's doing it in real time.
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He has to be good.
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And they showed up, and the people that were doing the exact same.
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Yep, and they were good.
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And then you realize It was Nate Jackson and Matt Rabi's like, oh shit, he's good.
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Yeah.
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And I promise you, anything you laugh at stand-up wise on your phone, you would have laughed twice as hard if you were there.
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Twice as hard.
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You would have laughed twice as hard if you were there.
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Yeah.
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Here's my other question when it comes to your special.
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So you put the you put this one on YouTube and it's done crazy numbers.
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The next one you do, are you thinking to drop it on YouTube again or are you gonna shop it around again?
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Oh, it's on YouTube forever.
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It's over.
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Yeah.
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That's the streaming service as far as I'm concerned.
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They number one.
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Yeah.
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So they are number one.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Everybody, because look, I took it to everybody.
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And you told me the way I feel is is very simple for me.
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Uh I am an artist.
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I have no desire to be a star.
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Uh I never did.
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That's why I could be on a show called Killin' It, and somebody would be like, Really?
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He been doing whatever?
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Because I think I look so much like I like I'm never doing anything that people don't realize how much I fucking do.
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Right, right.
00:23:05.119 --> 00:23:10.880
Yeah, and uh because I don't want, I never, I'm not even a person who likes attention.
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I think I can look like an attention whore on uh line.
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And this I'm by myself when y'all see all this stuff.
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Like I'm posting because that's the nature of the beast.
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Right.
00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:22.480
You know what I mean?
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This is just the because I realize people will do the out of uh sight, out of mind.
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This isn't, we don't live in the same times where you disappear and then it builds anticipation.
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Right.
00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:36.960
That used to be the time, they're like, man, I ain't seen him in four years.
00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:38.319
I wonder what he's gonna do.
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They're like, I ain't seen him in four years.
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I forgot that nigga was alive.
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Because it's just it's just different.
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I be trying to tell my homeboys that the absence does not make the heart grow fonder.
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Not no more.
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See, you're also you also have a very unique perspective about this thing because I always, so I'll say this over and over again, we're very early on in the internet because I remember before it existed.
00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:05.519
So it's like right now we're building the building box.
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You have something very specific that I, and you are welcome to correct me if I am wrong.
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To my understanding, if you're not the first, you are for sure the person that popularizes the side by side.
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The you subject matter happening, having the conversation about this thing that is happening in a fully flushed out, hilarious way.
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As far as I'm concerned, you are the first.
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And if you are not the first, you clearly are the pendulum that makes it go.
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I was first.
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You got that money, but I was first.
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I never said it.
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I never said it, I was just like, yeah, man.
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I I saw it, I saw the style take over the internet.
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I was like, man, that's great.
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Ain't none of you niggas gonna say acknowledging it.
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I'm watching niggas do interviews when I came up with it.
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Really?
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So this is how, this is how And you're first first.
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You're you're pre the platforms.
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You're pre Instagram encouraging it, TikTok existing.
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Yeah, Instagram was 15 seconds.
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So they you you couldn't even anybody saying, oh no, I was on Instagram.
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Instagram wouldn't even let you do it.
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So you're lying.
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Right.
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Uh I went to Facebook.
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First.
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Yeah.
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Man, I'm talking about Vine was hot, Instagram was hot, people were talking about photos and stuff.
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Well, I'm long-winded.
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Who was letting you do long form videos?
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Because I had to do flushed out thoughts.
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So it was Facebook, and it was really only me and Country Wayne on Facebook really doing our thing over there.
00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:43.279
At that time, how many followers did you have?
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Man, I gained a million followers in one year.
00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:49.839
Uh it was uh so this was crazy.
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This was crazy.
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So you're killing it.
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So it was uh it was 2016.
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Uh I made my I went viral for the first time.
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It was January 10th.
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It was about Odell Beckham Jr.
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Yeah.
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Man, this is this is how crazy 2016 is versus Dow.
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We were like 10 years ago, technology wasn't that different.
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Man, my phone was going off from the that was back in Facebook, where if somebody commented, it came to your phone like a text message.
00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:21.599
Somebody liked it.
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Yeah.
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You got the notification for everything.
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:27.279
Because virality wasn't a thing like that.
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Right.
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So they didn't have to worry about how much, you know, it came to your phone.
00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:36.720
Bro, my battery in my phone got so hot it started burning me.
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And I had to take, that's what going viral was back then.
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You had to take a battery out of the phone.
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It was back in the day when you could take a battery out of phone.
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Yes.
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You had that.
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That's what I'm telling you.
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That's how long ago it was.
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:53.039
And I lost my, like when I went viral, I was like, what does this mean?
00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:53.359
Right.
00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:54.960
I don't know what this means.
00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:56.799
Does this mean I made it?
00:26:57.039 --> 00:26:57.759
What does this mean?
00:26:57.920 --> 00:27:02.960
And then I and I and I uh the next day I got back online and everybody went about their business.
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:04.480
I was like, no, I did not.
00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:05.759
I did not become famous.
00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:06.160
Yes.
00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:11.119
But I it was it was weird because I felt a pressure I never felt before.
00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:15.920
Because I'm like, there, I went, I gained 10,000 followers in a day.
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:21.599
And I'm talking about 10, nobody was having 10,000 followers back then.
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:22.000
Right.
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:23.279
Like, that just wasn't a thing.
00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:24.880
He just taught the kick around about this.
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:26.079
He's he's the same exact thing.
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:27.279
He was like, that wasn't like a thing.
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:32.720
When people go, oh, 10,000 and no, Nick, nobody had 10,000.
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:33.759
He was like, what?
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:36.720
And I thought about something Patrice O'Neill said.
00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:39.279
Everything with me always goes back to stand-up.
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:44.720
Everybody I listen to, everybody I think about quotes I remember are always stand-up comics.
00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:46.079
I'm a stand-up before everything.
00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:46.319
Right.
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:50.960
And Patrice O'Neal said, if you can get 100,000 fans, you'll work for the rest of your life.
00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:52.079
100,000 fans.
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:53.759
100,000 fans, you'll work.
00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:56.000
There's no one can stop you from eating.
00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:56.160
Right.
00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:00.960
I'm talking about, and he said, eating good, if you can get 100,000 people to want to shop with you.
00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:01.200
Right.
00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:03.519
I just need 99,000 and 99.
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:07.119
And I'm on my way.
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:12.880
And um so I was like, all right, that's the goal.
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:14.079
I gotta get a hundred.
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:20.960
Because at the time I didn't know that it didn't, like you can get the 100,000, and that really be like 8,000.
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:21.359
Right.
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:24.720
I didn't have that understanding yet, so I was just like, let's get the 100,000.
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:25.839
What you mean by that?
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:34.480
Uh if you go, you see somebody with two million followers, that might be eight people that actually will go pay to go see them or anything.
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:40.799
You can get, you can get one good year of you the brand new shiny thing.
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:41.440
Right.
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:49.279
After that, because we could to get repeat customers, you gotta prove that you're worth coming back again.
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:49.680
Yeah.
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:52.400
That's why we see people, we be like, man, that dude blew up.
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:53.519
Whatever happened to that dude.
00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:54.960
Yeah, they didn't have anything.
00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:56.079
They didn't have anything.
00:28:56.240 --> 00:29:00.799
When it was time to, you know, present something to the people, they didn't have nothing to present to the people.
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:06.079
And um and uh so I was like, yo, the goal is a hundred thousand.
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:10.720
And I remember I hit thirty thousand uh after the next video.
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:12.400
And then I I started crying.
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:13.759
I was like, oh, it's over.
00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:15.119
Because I know me.
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.720
I am I get tunnel vision, right?
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.480
Once I set a goal, I just run through the wall with it.
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:27.440
So by the time the summer came around, I had a quarter million.
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:32.400
And then I was like, I need to see if this is real.
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:39.920
So I rented a car and drove to Houston, rented a comedy club, drove 16 hours to Houston to do a show.
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:42.559
I ain't even have uh money for a hotel.
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:44.720
If the show didn't sell, I live in Houston now.
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:46.880
So that's hilarious.
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:53.039
So yeah, so because at the end of the day, I'm a comic.
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:54.559
This is just this is how it is.
00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:58.960
If you we you get up where you can get up, you take your shot where you take your shot.
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:01.839
Man, it sold out in three days.
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.960
I got there and I and I got there a day early.
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:07.119
That's still my uh thing.
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:08.720
I do it all the time still.
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:10.240
I got there a day early.
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:13.200
The club owner pulled me to the side and said, Who are you?
00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:16.480
I was like, Oh, I was just doing wanted to rent your club out or whatever.
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:19.839
He was like, Nah, people are calling to say, Is he really coming?
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:22.480
Why wouldn't they believe that you coming here?
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:22.799
Right.
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:24.640
I was like, oh, this shit is a real thing.
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:27.039
Okay, so you had a shirt on saying who is Ryan Davis?
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:28.000
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:37.119
But I tell you, so we talking about at June, I was at a quarter million, and by December, I was at a full million.
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:40.160
So that can about tell you how much I ramped up.
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:46.799
Sheesh the uh like once I got back and realized this is a real thing, it's over, nigga.
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:49.680
Like I was glued to my phone, bro.
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:50.480
I was and it was.
00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:55.440
How many pieces of content were you posting a day to get to that million?
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:56.960
It was it was every day.
00:30:57.119 --> 00:30:59.839
And you and we talking about one piece or like three or four.
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.240
No, it was like one piece, but this is the thing.
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.799
It's one piece while nobody's doing anything.
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:05.200
Right.
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:07.279
So you see what I'm saying?
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:12.240
And uh so we talking about, and I'm and this is this was my process.
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:18.000
Like I would wake up in the morning, and man, God, I'm glad y'all are here.
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:19.839
That's what we embody, baby.
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:20.960
We killed it, baby.
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:23.440
Because people just don't know what it takes.
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:26.640
Like, like now, people will be like, you gotta post postable content.
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:29.839
This is what I this is we talking about 2016.
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:37.680
I was like, okay, I see that I I do these, I do these posts, but I I was like, how do you retain these people?
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:40.079
Because everybody doesn't hit follow.
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:42.319
They'll like, they'll comment, everything.
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:45.759
I created eight personal Facebook pages.
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:48.079
You cannot do it now because they think you a bot.
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:56.480
But I but I created eight personal pages, and I went requesting everybody as a friend who commented and said they liked the video.
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:57.599
And they'd be like, Who are you?
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:00.000
I was like, I'm the dude with the video, this video.
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:05.759
Uh, if you I make content like this, if you want to keep seeing it, uh uh just friend me.
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:09.920
Because then I would post it and then I would share it on all eight pages.
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:15.599
And all eight pages I would make to where I live somewhere else in the United States.
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:21.200
So it'll uh and then whenever I would do that, I would do that every single day.
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:29.359
And then the and whenever you would get on Facebook in the morning, you hit the search bar, it'll tell you the top ten things most talked about on Facebook today.
00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:31.519
And that's what I base my content off of.
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:32.880
You don't do that anymore, do it?
00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:33.839
No, it don't do nothing.
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:36.240
You can't do no more.
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:40.880
So I feel, and they would let you have like this nigger's getting too successful.
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:44.400
I swear that's what they do.
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:45.680
It's writing book.
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:51.759
So in eight pages, they let you have 5,000 friends per page.
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:54.480
So that's 40,000 people you can touch.
00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:54.880
Right.
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:58.319
And some people be like, man, you can't just touch 40,000 people.
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:00.480
You don't know who you're talking to, nigga.
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:04.559
I will message 40,000 people in one day if I had to.
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:05.839
I was a machine.
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:11.440
Like you wouldn't, so once I realized I was going to be like this the whole gap the whole day.
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:14.240
People be like, man, Ryan kind of hunchback.
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:15.359
2016.
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:21.599
So a great comedian is self-aware like a motherfucker.
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:23.200
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:27.519
So whenever, so then I wanted to start my own tour.
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.720
So I still didn't have no manager, no agent, no nothing.
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:34.559
I'm just sitting in Concord, North Carolina in my mama's house, right?
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:35.519
Well, I got kicked out.
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:36.720
So I'm in Charlotte now.
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:51.279
Uh I'm in Charlotte, and like if I was doing a show, I'd post it on the main page, and then I would go to each individual personal page, and Facebook lets you do this, used to let you do this.
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:54.160
Friends who live in such and such.
00:33:54.400 --> 00:34:02.400
So, and you just put the city and they would show you everybody who you were friends with that was there, and I would personally message every single person.
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:06.079
Hey, I'm coming to your city and I'm going to do a show or whatever.
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:10.400
And if they were like, Oh man, I can't really afford to come, free tickets.
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:11.440
Boom.
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:15.920
I just needed to get you in the room to see that this is what I actually do.
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:16.320
Right.
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:16.559
Right.
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:18.559
So stand-up, that's all I was doing.
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:20.800
I was using that to sell the stand-up.
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:23.679
And then it worked out.
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:26.239
I got a million followers in a year.
00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:28.559
Drew Tillman found me.
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:33.519
You know, uh, it was a couple people trying to manage me, but uh Drew.
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:36.400
I've been with Drew the whole decade.
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:36.960
Wow.
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:38.239
Shout out to Drew, bro.
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:40.159
Yeah, been with Drew the whole decade.
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:44.960
And then uh, so this was the craziest part because I'm really good manager.
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:46.079
Hey, Drew, a good manager.
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:46.880
He's a great man.
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:48.960
That's how your ass a producer on Comic View.
00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:59.280
You can have Ryan Davis, but he's gonna be a producer.
00:34:59.519 --> 00:34:59.760
Yeah.
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:01.440
Yeah, yeah.
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:02.880
So I I dig it.
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:03.280
Keep going.
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:06.320
But I but I had learned something.
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:11.199
I'm the one thing about me is it's just, I don't know what it is.
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:19.760
It's like uh, it's like fucking uh Final Destination, where you all you there's always the premonition before something happened.
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:24.400
I knew it was gonna swing to the internet, and I knew it was gonna swing back to stand.
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:27.440
I always see what's coming before it comes.
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:36.000
And the one thing I saw coming was the people who follow you aren't fans of stand-up.
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:41.519
And so I had to re like people don't even know this is the second swing.
00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:47.760
I had to make people think I fell off so I could build the stand-up audience.
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:51.679
Yeah, like I stopped posting.
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:54.000
People was thinking, oh, he falling off.
00:35:54.159 --> 00:36:05.280
I was like, no, I need the people who who just because you can get into the point where you posting all the time and you just feeding people who are never gonna show up.
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:06.159
Nigga, bruh.
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:11.920
What I just said that what I just told him because of these conversations, I'm gonna let you finish your point.
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:16.159
Because of these conversations, I said, bruh, I'm gonna stop posting these fucking reaction videos.
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:24.159
I said, I'm finna start just focusing on posting my stand-up, I said the podcast and stand-up clips because I'm trying to get people to buy tickets to these shows.
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:28.719
And all that reaction shit is cool to build your get your face out there.
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:32.559
And it helps getting some money on Facebook, the$12 that they pay niggas now.
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:33.519
Yeah, yeah.
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:34.719
They done played nigga.
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:36.239
But that's a whole nother story.
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:44.800
But I realize the type of content you posting is gonna dictate the type of audience that's gonna come out to see you or not come see you.
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:56.400
I mean, speaking on coca, I remember having a conversation with you, and you specifically told me I was because this is when I knew people were getting real because here's the thing.
00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:58.400
There's real money in LA.
00:36:58.719 --> 00:36:59.519
There's real money.
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:01.039
There's real money.
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:03.679
And at some point in time, I remember standing in the comedy union.
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:06.880
I looked across the room, I saw two niggas, they were doing that little quiet talking series.
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:08.480
I was like, them niggas getting some money.
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:09.360
What y'all doing?
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:12.559
I said, them nigga, them niggas over there getting some money.
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:14.639
I was like, hey man, what y'all talking about, man?
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:17.039
It just felt like good money talk.
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:19.679
Like, not not not it wasn't a thousand dollar talk.
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:21.760
This was this was six-digit talk.
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:25.199
I was like, and I realized I was like, okay, I gotta figure out how to get money in the city.
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:26.880
And then niggas tried getting money on social media.
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:33.679
And I had a conversation with you because I knew how hot you were on social media, and you was like, I try, I'm trying to steer away from that money.
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:40.480
Because if I get it, uh, I'ma I'ma I'm a like I'ma kind of just start chilling, and I gotta focus on stand-up.
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:49.440
People, that's what and I feel so bad for my manager at times, my agents at times, because I'm not moved by money.
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:51.360
Yeah, I'm moved by legacy.
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:57.679
So there was so much money to get on social media when it was at its peak, and I ain't even monetize my page.
00:37:57.840 --> 00:37:58.239
I know.
00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:00.960
And people are like, you crazy, you crazy.
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:04.960
And then when they start playing with everybody's money, everybody was like, I don't know what I'm gonna do.
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:07.840
I got a mortgage that I can't keep up with, or whatever.
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:09.519
I was like, man, that's crazy.
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:17.679
It's almost like I told you that if you depend on them to feed you, they can starve you.
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:18.159
Right.
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:22.159
You can't give nobody that type of leverage over you ever.
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.679
I was like, man, that social media money is just sub is mailbox money.
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:27.199
Supplemental money.
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:31.199
I get the uh I get the email, I'm like, oh, that's great.
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:32.719
And that's all it is to it.
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:34.400
I I never depend on it.
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:36.239
I never will depend on it.
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:40.639
Man, uh, oh man, I don't I I gotta tell this story, bro.
00:38:41.119 --> 00:38:47.199
And if you do, like I'm just saying to him, if he if he get mad, it's whatever, but my homeboy Damon Darling, right?
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:50.239
Okay, kicked it in the high gear one month.
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:54.320
Facebook meta shitted him out of a hundred grand.
00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:01.679
Where I'm from, that is a different Mark Zuckerberg gotta see me.
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:03.440
You see what I'm saying?
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:07.599
Yeah, he gotta see a hundred grand, bro.
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:12.000
Yeah, but yeah, like I know you're worth billions, and a hundred grand may not be nothing.
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:13.280
But see if you take it.
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:18.800
There's some people out here that'll knock you clean off of that wherever you at over a hundred, man.
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:19.599
That's a headshot.
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:21.119
That's a headshot, bro.
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:24.400
And I'm talking about we ain't even trying to be stealthy.
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:26.159
Nigga got the gun out.
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:28.239
Where is Mark Zuckerberg?
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:29.360
Full Luigi.
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:30.960
Yeah, yeah.
00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:31.760
That's real that.
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:32.239
Right.
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:35.760
So it's like, nah, I could I couldn't let nobody play with me like that.
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:45.599
But that I also realized, right, whenever you whenever you go into social media and you like, oh no, I gotta get this money, this good money over here.
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:47.280
When was the last time you wrote a joke?
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:49.039
When was the last time you went up?
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:56.079
You worried so much about this, yeah, like you'd see a person out, they ain't wrote a new joke in two years.
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:56.480
Yeah.
00:39:56.639 --> 00:39:57.679
You'd be like, why ain't you wrong?
00:39:57.920 --> 00:39:58.960
Why ain't no comic view?
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:00.320
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:01.760
Nobody called me.
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:04.639
Nobody called me for the comic view.
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:07.440
I was like, man, we thought about it, man.
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:08.639
We thought about it.
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:14.719
It was just, it was just, it was your joke about Beyonce being pregnant with blue ivy.
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.599
As if it was new that was really like you know what I mean.
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:25.519
Not a specific the fact that she in high school and you was like, yeah.
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:29.280
He was like, have you seen Beyonce's new baby, Blue Ivy?
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:30.239
I don't think you should do that.
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:37.360
But did I I feel like I stopped you when you was talking about content and the type of content to get people to come to shows?
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:38.239
Yes.
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:46.400
I was like, and and shout out to Andrew Scholes, because that's who he pulled up on him, and that's the thing.
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:48.719
Man, if you know me, I'll pull up on you.
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:51.280
I done seen him with DC Curry, I done seen you.
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:55.599
If you come anywhere near me, I'ma see you.
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:55.920
Right.
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:56.880
You know what I mean?
00:40:56.960 --> 00:41:01.440
I respect my peers, and I love seeing my peers do what it is that we do.
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:03.760
And y'all niggas do it at a high level.
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:06.400
I go see you niggas anytime.
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:12.800
Uh, my first time uh being here in LA, the person I saw at the union was this nigga.
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:15.519
And he killed that night.
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:18.880
And I was like, I gotta know who this nigga is.
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:21.760
Because he the only he was the only one on the show I didn't know.
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:25.119
They had niggas who was on Comic View back in the day and whatever.
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:27.360
And then I was like, and he was young.
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:30.400
I was like, I think he was the youngest on the show.
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:32.719
I was like, he embarrassing you niggas.
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:35.599
I was like, yo, that was 2014.
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:37.440
He embarrassed me one night.
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:38.639
That nigga featured for me.
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:39.199
Yeah.
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:42.320
I went to the bathroom and I was like, that nigga a tough.
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:46.480
We bring the funny part.
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:49.760
I was, and the thing was They did it to me the other day, too.
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:51.840
I would I had never been in LA.
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:53.599
I didn't know how many comics were here.
00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:54.000
Right.
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:56.159
I know it almost anywhere in the country.
00:41:56.239 --> 00:41:57.199
I'd be like, I'm a comic.
00:41:57.280 --> 00:41:58.000
Can I get some time?
00:41:58.159 --> 00:41:58.800
They'll do it.
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:02.480
Man, I did that shit at the Union and it was like, who was this nigga?
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:04.880
I didn't know that it was like that out here.
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:06.320
They're like, we'll let you in.
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:09.920
You might still gotta pay the two drink minimum because nigga, we ain't we don't know you.
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:15.119
And then I was like, man, I was seeing niggas, I was like, man, if I got up, nigga, I would have showed these niggas.
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:16.960
And I saw BT, I was like, you know what?
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:18.000
Everybody ain't meant to be.
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:19.920
Everybody ain't meant.
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:23.760
Because at that time I was only doing stand-up for a year.
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:28.079
I was a good baby, but I ain't never seen nobody polished like that.
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.079
I ain't seen nobody good like that.
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:35.360
It's funny because you you've told me, you told me that before.
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:43.119
But now when we're seeing, when we're watching the art and we're watching you, and you're you're in full rhyme.
00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:45.199
You're in full of your greatness, it's full.
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:46.559
You've the voice is there.
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:47.840
Yeah, I know it out.
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:49.440
Because here's the crazy part.
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:51.119
The voice was there beforehand.
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:55.840
When you were doing the commentary, these are fully flushed out ideas.
00:42:56.000 --> 00:43:04.719
Now, transitioning that into the stage, because you are one of the rarefied people that that have encompassed that seat, you a ticket mover.
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:05.119
Yeah.
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:10.000
You can have the numbers, yeah, you can have the credits, and ain't nobody coming.
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:13.920
For whatever reason, disrespect, you know.
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:16.000
But but you can be hilarious.
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:18.639
You are moving tickets.
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:24.079
So it allows for a certain amount of comfort, a certain amount of success.
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:30.239
Um tell me about how you maneuver through the business with that understanding.
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:35.119
It's like, listen, I I know there's things y'all want to say, but this this is happening.
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:42.400
I'm gonna tell you, man, this was such a crazy trip.
00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:46.079
Because it's not the way stand up is supposed to be done.
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:52.239
You're supposed to be mentored into you know your headlining.
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:52.719
Right.
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:56.639
Jumping in, I wanted I did this because I wanted to be a headliner.
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:59.760
I did all this work because I wanted to be I never.
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:02.480
I wouldn't take hosting gigs.
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:04.800
I wouldn't take any because I was like, I don't want to learn that.
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:09.599
I always knew I wanted to be a headliner, and so I kept that and not closing either.
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:11.760
Or I didn't want to work uh cruises.
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:18.480
I didn't work and I didn't want to knock I don't want to knock anybody who does that because those are some of the best comics in the world.
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:26.639
I didn't I wanted to always get in front of an audience and say what I wanted to say and not have no limitations, so that's why I don't take corporate gigs and stuff like that.
00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:28.159
And that's incredible money.
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:28.960
Very good money.
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:32.000
But yeah, it was just I never wanted money to control me.
00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:40.639
But the problem is, once I had got into that headlining position, you realize you don't know nothing about the game.
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:45.519
You ain't watched a pro and how they handle being a headliner.
00:44:45.679 --> 00:45:01.440
You don't see the process of getting to the club, how they handle staff, how they handle the people who are under them, how how uh professional they are with time, how, and I'm gonna tell you something that people have been headliners a long time know how to do.
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:02.400
Say no.
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:06.960
They know how to say no, and they don't care if you see them as an asshole.
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:07.119
Right.
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.159
Because they understand that everything falls back on them.
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:10.559
Yes.
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:12.400
I ain't get to see none of this.
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:14.159
I'm learning on the job.
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:16.239
And then I'm moving with fear.
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:21.280
My first two tours, I don't even think I changed a joke because I was so afraid.
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:23.199
What if they think I'm not funny?
00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:34.880
So that was the disconnect in my stand up from so you I would have my real point of view on social media, and then I'd go do a show and do jokes with no point of view.
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:38.639
Just because I was like, I gotta make them laugh, I gotta make them laugh.
00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:45.519
And then I was like, nigga, I done toured two straight years, and I ain't said nothing I wanna say.
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:47.440
This is not what you signed up for.
00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:52.960
What do you think helped you get through that fear to just speak your voice?
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:54.400
Austin Hall.
00:45:55.840 --> 00:46:01.119
I met a guy named Austin Hall, and he was the same kind of person as me.
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:05.679
He was like, I don't want to do, I wanna be able to say whatever I want to say.
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:10.000
I'm taking this nigga on tour, and I'm like, bubblegum, right?
00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:15.440
So hates when it's on your shoe.
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:16.880
So chewy.
00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:26.079
And he's like, and he's like, and he's getting on stage talking, like, you know, the difference between this and this psychologically is you gotta think about it.
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:26.960
People are doing this.
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:28.800
I was like, that's the shit I wanna do.
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:31.760
And you're doing it on the online already.
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:33.119
Yeah, and I'm doing it online.
00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:38.639
And I'm just sitting here, and then I'm watching the nigga was like, I'm gonna try this.
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:42.000
I was like, damn, you you ain't afraid to take an L on stage.
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:43.360
It was like, how do you get better?
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:45.039
I was like, I know, right?
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:50.480
And then I was like, you know, there's so many people here.
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:55.119
Well, if it don't go well and they never come back, you have to get rid of that fear.
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:56.559
You gotta get rid of that fear.
00:46:56.639 --> 00:46:59.599
A lot of people, a fan wants to see the journey.
00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:07.119
If they go, I went to see him, it was pretty funny, and I went to see him again, and he and he was funnier, they'll go, hey boy, getting better.
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:09.920
Yeah, hey, I see, I see what you asked.
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:16.239
It's real fans out there that want to see the journey, so keep working.
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:17.519
I had to learn that.
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:21.360
I you cannot operate in fear as an artist.
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:23.280
You cannot operate in fear.
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:24.239
Say it one more time.
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:27.519
You cannot operate in fear as an artist.
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:28.559
You cannot.
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:30.800
And I had to learn that in acting.
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:34.480
When I first started trying to act, I was like, what do they want?
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:35.440
What do they want?
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:37.840
You don't think, what do I bring?
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:38.719
Yeah.
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:39.920
What do I bring?
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:43.280
How do I feel like so many people are afraid?
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:45.199
You always want to do it right.
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:51.679
And a lot of times, man, as an artist, the right thing is who you bring to it.
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:53.840
Who are you and what do you bring to it?
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:58.880
Because once people see it, they'll go, I didn't even know it could be this.
00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:02.000
Imagine telling Eddie Murphy, no, no, no, don't do that.
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:03.199
This is the way I see it.
00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:03.519
Right.
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:04.880
We can't even imagine.
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:08.719
This nigga is sitting at a table as seven different people.
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:09.280
Yeah.
00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:10.960
Something wrong with that nigga.
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:13.280
And that and that's the thing with all of us.
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:15.360
That's something, that's with all of us.
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:25.280
Nobody can nobody can really steer our art like that because nobody lives up here other than us.
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:27.519
And you you gotta trust that.
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:29.360
You gotta trust that.
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:35.679
How long have you um how long have you felt you've had this perspective?
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:44.079
Like you, I mean, of course, obviously we as comics we have it have an angle, but how long do you feel that you've kind of looked at the world differently?
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:46.480
Oh, I knew when I was a kid, I was a weirdo.
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:52.719
Um so I can't stop trying to analyze stuff.
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:54.559
I literally just can't do it.
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:58.239
Because I'll see behavior and I'll be like, why is why are you doing that?
00:48:58.400 --> 00:48:58.559
Right.
00:48:58.800 --> 00:48:59.599
Why are they doing it?
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:00.480
I don't know why.
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:02.559
I just I just want to know.
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:05.360
Uh I'm the nosiest nigga on the planet.
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:07.760
I I think that's just what it is.
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:13.840
Like, like, man, I'll I'll not care about something.
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:14.239
Right.
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:17.519
But somebody will say it, and I was like, I just gotta know how it ends.
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:18.079
Right.
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:19.679
And I don't know what that is.
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:21.920
It's curiosity all the time.
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:26.719
And I end up going down these crazy rabbit holes and getting to the end.
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:34.719
And then that makes me understand people like Kanye West and other people when they say wild stuff, and people be like, oh my God, this is crazy.
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:36.960
I was like, no, I understand this rabbit hole.
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:39.119
Yeah, yeah, I see how they got there.
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:40.320
I would have never said that.
00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:43.519
But I do understand what you're supposed to stop.
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:47.440
You're supposed to learn when you're going, you went too far.
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:49.440
You've you've asked too many questions.
00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:52.239
It's like, yeah, this is normal conversation.
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:53.199
This is beautiful.
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:55.199
You can get people to understand this.
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:57.199
All right, nigga, keep this to yourself.
00:49:57.440 --> 00:49:57.920
Right, right.
00:49:58.880 --> 00:49:59.920
Keep all of this to yourself.
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:06.480
You know, I took that too, which is I'm into that same thing, which is not so much what people do, but why people do.
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:08.559
So, you know, because people say, what would you?
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:14.239
I said, Well, I guess if I went to a stand-up, somewhere in there, I'd be in the zeitgeist of psychology.
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:24.000
Also, too, when you understand why people do what they do, your sentiments of judgment start to change.
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:26.000
You're not gonna You get way more forgiving.
00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:26.400
You get it.
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:27.360
You understand?
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:28.000
Yeah, yeah.
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:32.400
It's not it's it's not so this because you understand, oh I mean, because life is nuanced.
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:38.559
And when people are trying to do broad strokes over complex situations, you're missing a lot.
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:42.000
And as soon as you get into the details, you'll be like, oh, we agree.
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.519
Yeah, it's just like it just took you a different way to get there.
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:47.360
Uh uh, if you if you don't got all right.
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:47.920
Go for it.
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:56.960
I I didn't I don't one, I don't know if I've ever said this to any of the men that have said on this show, but it it hit me as you were talking.
00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:00.800
There are necessary voices in our business.
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:09.519
I told uh Ida Rodriguez, I was like, you're a necessary voice as a comic because politically you can convey something that other people can't.
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:11.280
Uh I feel like Takar's like that.
00:51:11.519 --> 00:51:18.000
I feel like you are like that also, and more specifically than anything, specifically for the art form of comedy.
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:29.760
You will take it upon yourself to create a list of comics that the public does not know to say, hey, listen, here's a bunch of comedians that you should know, because every time I ask you who your favorite comic is, everybody's dead.
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:34.320
Well, they love naming a dead.
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:37.440
Oh my God.
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:38.639
Whole list.
00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:39.199
Yes.
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:41.440
I mean, like, who was your favorite comic?
00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:44.719
They'll name niggas who ain't been here for over a decade.
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:45.199
Yes.
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:48.480
I was like, how is this your favorite current comic?
00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:48.880
Right.
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:49.599
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:53.199
And and so, so you're an extremely necessary voice.
00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:55.360
You said something, uh, I heard you say something one time.
00:51:55.519 --> 00:52:00.800
It was like, you know, we used to get uh the music, you have to go and buy a CD.
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:07.679
And now there's a world where all the content is like damn near free, or you're paying for all of it for a very low amount.
00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:10.320
Yeah, you pay$10, you get all the albums.
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:13.599
You'll never be able to appreciate music that way.
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:14.400
Right, yeah, right.
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:15.039
Never.
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:15.440
Yeah.
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:17.039
But if I buy a CD.
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:18.559
For sure, that investment is serious.
00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:19.679
The investment is serious.
00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:21.920
They be like, they'll be like, yo, you listen to the new album.
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:22.880
I'm still listening to it.
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:23.519
Yeah, I'm still.
00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:25.280
I'm still listening to it.
00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:26.559
How do you feel about it?
00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:29.760
I'll let you know by the end of the week after I get it.
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:31.440
I only got six distinct to change it.
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:32.719
Yeah, exactly.
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:36.239
Nobody sits with stuff anymore.
00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:38.800
And art is something you have to sit with.
00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:39.519
Yeah, to really.
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:44.239
Because think about think about y'all doing an hour worth of stand-up.
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:44.880
Right?
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:48.079
Let's say you go blank, blank slate.
00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:51.199
You're not using none of the material you currently got.
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:54.880
I tell you, six months from now, you gotta film an hour.
00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:59.360
How much work go into building that hour in a six month?
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:03.440
And imagine if somebody watched it once and was like, uh.
00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:04.079
Yeah.
00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:05.840
I'd be like, Nick, no, no, no, no, no.
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:11.280
You need to go, yeah, I'm doing a lot of shit in here that ain't no nah nah nah.
00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:12.800
And they watched it doing this.
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:15.280
Yeah, it was in the kitchen.
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:15.599
Yeah.
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:17.119
Yeah, kids running around.
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:17.440
Yeah.
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:17.840
Yeah.
00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:24.159
Y'all, you man, art is not like content is not art, and art is not content.
00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:25.440
There's a lot of content creators.
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:27.039
Artists are not content creators.
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:30.239
There is something completely different about it.
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:31.199
You know what I mean?
00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:33.840
That's why, but I know people love art.
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:38.639
That's why when you see centers and how everybody is having whole conversations, man, did you see what they did with this?
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:39.840
What do you think this means?
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.800
Jordan Peel did it with uh Get Out.
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:45.760
Art causes conversation.
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:46.320
Yes.
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:53.760
And then when so the thing is, once you become a content creator, you are now cheapening what art is.
00:53:53.920 --> 00:54:00.800
And then it leaves people, uh people start getting like their attention spans start getting shorter.
00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:12.000
And the people who attention span getting shorter, they are cheating themselves out of an opportunity to experience something dope because they because they now are stuck on content.
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:15.199
I don't, that's why I don't consume content like that.
00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:17.519
People be like, you know what the newest dance is?
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:18.159
I have no clue.
00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:20.880
And I will and I will not you know what song is popular?
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:21.679
I have no idea.
00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:23.360
And I haven't uh and I don't want to know.
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:23.760
Yeah.
00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:28.559
Man, but you I'll watch somebody's content where a nigga play four different people.
00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:32.639
He he got four different personalities, he done wrote a script and everything.
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:35.360
I was like, oh nah, this dude is just doing his own movie.
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:35.920
Right, right.
00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:37.039
I'll watch that.
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:38.639
But no, no, no, no, no.
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:40.639
I'll go to, I'll listen to y'all podcasts.
00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:43.840
I'll and the thing is, I don't even really like listening to podcasts.
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:50.800
I want to watch the podcast because I want to see the interaction, the real human interaction between.
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:52.880
But I can't, you can't always hear that.
00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:54.159
You know what I mean?
00:54:54.320 --> 00:55:01.039
Like, if you you gotta listen to stuff a lot to tell what a if a nigga's smiling or he's gritting his teeth or whatever, whatever he says.
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:03.519
But if I'm watching, I can see.
00:55:03.679 --> 00:55:08.800
Like, y'all be talking, you say something funny, and I like, nah, BT didn't really like that.
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:13.760
He laughed, but he ain't he ain't he ain't really never you you telling personal shit.
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:22.400
I can tell that if I'm if I'm watching or whatever, and I just like I I love community too.
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:23.199
That's my thing.
00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:25.360
I take my people with me everywhere.
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:26.239
You know what I mean?
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:31.679
I don't like I'm it's so funny because I come off as a loner, but I'm so communal.
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:38.559
That's why I'm always making lists and telling people about the the craft, I'm telling people about the art, I'm telling people y'all should go see.
00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:48.480
And I think one of the things that gets me in trouble as a comic is it's such, it's looked at as a solo thing.
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:49.039
Right.
00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:51.679
So I gotta promote me solo.
00:55:52.639 --> 00:56:00.960
And whenever I do that, and and then I and then I uh shout out my peers, the people who don't get shout out, and go, what is he doing?
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:01.679
You know what?
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:02.559
Am I nothing?
00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:05.840
And I'm like, you know, you can do the same thing I'm doing.
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:06.400
Yeah, right.
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:10.400
When I go, hey man, I'm dope, here's some more dope people.
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:14.239
And you could have easily went, Ryan is right, these people are dope.
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:16.400
But here's some people I think are dope too.
00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:18.480
You know, I would have shared that.
00:56:18.639 --> 00:56:18.800
Yeah.
00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:21.599
Y'all been asking, how can y'all support killing it?
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:23.119
Well, we got an answer for you.
00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:23.920
We got one.
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:24.880
Cash app.
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:25.679
Boom.
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:31.119
We just like every other send about it.
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:35.119
A money symbol, killing it pod, is where you can donate.
00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:37.039
We are independently produced right now.
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:38.800
Y'all be asking about a Patreon.
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:40.480
You don't even have to, this ain't even much of money.
00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:42.400
Just go and put something in there right now.
00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:43.440
I'm gonna jump in right here.
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:44.960
I'm gonna jump in right here.
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:49.039
So that's that is the one thing I don't feel this way.
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:56.559
The one critique I've heard about you is some people feel like, well, why he always gotta say how good of a comedian he is?
00:56:56.719 --> 00:56:58.480
Why he always gotta say that.
00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:09.199
Now, me, I'm I'm like, well, Lil Wayne said I'm the best rapper alive, people started saying, yeah, he the best rapper alive.
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:09.679
T.I.
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:10.480
said I'm the king of the side.
00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:10.880
T.I.
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:11.840
said I'm the king of the side.
00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:12.880
Like, yeah, T.I.
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:13.760
is the king of the side.
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:21.760
So from I understand from that perspective, but I want you to say out of your mouth, why do you feel it's necessary for you to tell people how dope you are?
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:24.159
Because I watched y'all not do it.
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:30.719
They said, they said, oh, if you really like that, the people to say it for you.
00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:38.880
I saw D-Ray do almost a different set for 20 years straight every Monday and then sell out shows and break records all over the country.
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:41.599
He's been at hit movies, he's been at everything.
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:44.559
He even had a uh successful reality show.
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:48.000
When y'all talk about legends, what y'all gonna talk about D-Ray?
00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:53.840
This nigga was his nigga was uh responsible for every skit on the Kanye album first and second album.
00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:56.719
This nigga, we talk about Grammy Award winning classics.
00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:59.519
He's providing the funny all the way through Dolo.
00:57:59.920 --> 00:58:00.960
When you gonna say something?
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:02.239
Y'all gonna do it for Lil Duval?
00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:03.440
When you gonna do it for Duval?
00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:06.239
Tony Roberts, when you gonna do it?
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:07.119
Nah, nigga.
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:08.239
I seen how y'all like the.
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:09.360
I see how y'all get done.
00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:10.400
I'm about to take it.
00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:11.119
No, no, no.
00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:12.079
I'll tell you.
00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:12.960
Don't you?
00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:14.320
No.
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:15.280
Yeah, yeah.
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:20.719
Yeah, because when these niggas is doing all of this, and then I go, who you who who killing it right now?
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:21.840
They can name somebody dead.
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:22.960
I'll be like, nope.
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:23.440
Nope.
00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:24.320
I'ma tell you.
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:26.000
No, I do not believe.
00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:28.719
Do not trust these niggas to give you your flowers.
00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:29.039
Yeah.
00:58:29.199 --> 00:58:31.679
Do not trust the public to give you your flowers.
00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:32.480
They don't know.
00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:36.960
Shows like this is so important because people are watching shows like, I didn't know he did all of that.
00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:38.159
Well, you watched it all.
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:38.719
Absolutely.
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:40.960
You watched it all, you consumed it all.
00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:41.920
What is it?
00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:47.760
Because there's something about people are so moved by stardom and not art.
00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:54.559
Whenever you see somebody doing a whole bunch of dope shit, why can't you just say it's dope?
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:56.960
And people hold on to nostalgia so much.
00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:06.400
A nigga, a nigga have nine stand-up specials, and they'll tell you you not better than that nigga that they played on Comic View over and over and over again that had three sex.
00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:06.880
Right.
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:08.559
I remember them three jokes, buddy.
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:10.320
Yeah, that boy, that boy was good.
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:11.280
He was good.
00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:15.599
And we sitting here like, nigga, all of us got a dope ass sex man crap.
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:22.559
But if I say that, oh, you a hater, you not giving the problem to the to the legends.
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:23.199
No, man.
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:23.840
I'm sorry.
00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:28.159
I'm sorry, but my fucking generation is dope, nigga.
00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:30.639
My generation is dope, nigga.
00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:34.880
You would see when y'all, when y'all play with me, you playing with us.
00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:36.239
That's the way I feel.
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:37.519
That's the way I feel.
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:39.679
You're not, I'm not just fighting for me.
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:42.079
When I talk shit, I ain't just fighting for me.
00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:43.360
I'm fighting for us.
00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:45.039
That's a good transition.
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:47.920
Because comic views filming right now.
00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:48.400
Yeah.
00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:50.159
You made a song.
00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:52.239
A jingle nigga.
00:59:52.639 --> 01:00:01.360
I I'm I've I uh have a very unique perspective about the city, about the business, because uh humbly, not humbly, fuck that shit.
01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:02.079
It is what it is.
01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:04.159
Most of the time when I'm in the city, I'm closing out a show.
01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:12.559
I'm going uh when when a couple of shows happen um in the city and I could not get on, I couldn't get an audition.
01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:15.679
And there was comics that were mad for me.
01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:16.800
But nigga, why you ain't here?
01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:21.199
Fast forward to Heart of the City and the 30-minute special.
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:23.440
And if I had had the credits, I couldn't have did it.
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:26.559
So now, one, I was I was cool the first time.
01:00:26.719 --> 01:00:28.480
Two, I want to show love to my niggas.
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:33.119
And three, when Comic View happens this year, and people call me, I say, no, no, no, no.
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:35.360
It's not, that does not, it doesn't work like for that for me.
01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:40.400
I showed up, I show up, I look at the list, I say, okay, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love.
01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:40.880
We're fine.
01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:41.599
We're fine.
01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:45.519
I'm only gonna I'm gonna raise hell if it's them niggas.
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:49.119
And that's where I ain't seen you do shit, I'm gonna start flipping shit over.
01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:52.320
That was the thing for me, right?
01:00:52.880 --> 01:01:04.320
I understand, you know, it's so important for people to see new people, but it's also important for people to see the dogs that's been overlooked.
01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:04.960
Yes.
01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:06.159
You know what I mean?
01:01:06.239 --> 01:01:06.559
Yeah.
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:08.079
It's so important.
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:09.440
And you were fighting for them.
01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:10.880
Yeah, and I be fighting for them.
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:12.320
That's why he has a producer credit.
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:18.960
Yo, man, I'm telling I was in these rooms, and they were like, hey, such and such has a good following.
01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:20.000
I was like, that's great.
01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:21.840
But have you seen this nigga?
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:23.679
Because this is a stand-up show.
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:28.400
So whenever at the end of the day, who's gonna do the job?
01:01:28.559 --> 01:01:32.400
Then there's, and then you need to trust, you need people you can trust.
01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:35.119
They going, hey man, but I really like this person.
01:01:35.199 --> 01:01:38.880
Have they ever filmed themselves doing stand-up?
01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:47.599
Have they ever seen, have they done, have they acted, have they ever had a camera right here while they have to do the thing that they have to do?
01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:50.719
You know, I think people don't understand.
01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:54.079
Stand-up is difficult as fuck.
01:01:54.239 --> 01:01:55.440
It is difficult.
01:01:55.679 --> 01:02:02.480
And just because I learned this whenever I shot all Deaf Comedy, when they brought Deaf Comedy Jam back, that's right, I did that too.
01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:08.000
And uh we want to get it.
01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:09.440
We start the gunshots now, baby.
01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:14.639
When you film stand-up, it's you.
01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:17.280
Clubs are set up for you to win.
01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:20.800
They can put the audience in the dark, they put the spotlight on you.
01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:24.400
There's ways to ignore what's happening in the room.
01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:28.000
When you film for TV, you see everything.
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:32.079
You see the face of every person in that room.
01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:33.920
You see every camera.
01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:34.480
Yeah.
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:35.920
Yeah.
01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:42.559
There's people in the room who don't like comedy, but they heard Comic View was shooting, and I want to be on camera.
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:45.599
So now you ain't even in front of comedy fans.
01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:50.559
You gotta be so good that you make niggas who don't usually do this laugh.
01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:53.199
You need people who have done that all the time.
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:55.360
How many times have y'all played in front of people?
01:02:56.159 --> 01:02:58.639
Especially in LA, who really ain't there.
01:02:59.119 --> 01:02:59.840
Especially in LA.
01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:00.320
Yeah.
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:02.320
You need those people.
01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:06.079
Why would I put somebody up who only perform in front of their fans?
01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:06.480
Right.
01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:08.239
Your fans aren't here.
01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:10.719
It's not gonna go like you think it's gonna go.
01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:28.320
We just spoke about this um even yesterday, how how comedy, how how like the the changing of the energy of comedy shows for example, like the thing that makes Def Jam so dope was that you could tell they went right to the subway and said, yo, we got a show.
01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:30.559
And niggas just came in there with their boots.
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:31.440
And real people.
01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:37.599
They left their daughter at daycare and they would just, they was just some nigga let they was just ready to go.
01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:39.599
They stopped at the drug sale, they were like, let me stop.
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:40.079
Everything.
01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:40.639
Right?
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:48.079
And then so now we get to a point where you you you you even sometimes you watch a comedy, uh a comedy tape and now the audience think they the act.
01:03:48.159 --> 01:03:55.840
And so they they come up and they they they can laugh, they and they it's like, yo, what's Did you get my good side?
01:03:56.079 --> 01:03:56.960
Did you get my good side?
01:03:57.119 --> 01:03:59.039
You the audience! Yo, you the audience.
01:03:59.119 --> 01:04:00.400
And I was I fought for that.
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:00.800
Yeah.
01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:05.360
Whenever the comic review came up, I was like, it's gonna be real people in the audience saying that.
01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:07.840
They're like, why would you think that would hey nigga?
01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:09.440
I see what niggas be doing, bro.
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:14.639
You gotta have real people there because real laughs are contagious.
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:15.360
Contagious.
01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:19.280
It makes people who are at home, they gotta feel like they were in the room.
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:21.199
And they know no one laughs, like, oh.
01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:24.400
They know people don't laugh like that.
01:04:24.880 --> 01:04:27.280
Yeah, they know black people don't laugh like that.
01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:29.360
So what are we doing, right?
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:39.440
So for me, it was, and and I had the and and big salute to uh Drew Tillman and and and uh Royale Watkins, who also fight for the art a lot.
01:04:39.679 --> 01:04:40.480
Fight the Royale, man.
01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:41.519
Yeah, fight for the art.
01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:44.159
Royale be fighting his ass off for the art, boy.
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:45.039
People don't know.
01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:46.639
We need a sweeping shot.
01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:47.199
Yeah, yeah.
01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:50.960
So for me, it it was very important.
01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:59.599
Uh and I understood, like, did I need Comic View for my career and nothing like that, or anything like that?
01:04:59.840 --> 01:05:08.159
No, but it's no, but it's important to me if I have a light on me, if it'll bring people's eyeballs to it, I gotta bring the eyeballs to my peers.
01:05:08.639 --> 01:05:12.719
I gotta, we all are holding hands together to lift the craft up.
01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:15.440
And that's see, see, see, now see?
01:05:15.519 --> 01:05:16.079
Now see.
01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:16.639
See?
01:05:17.519 --> 01:05:23.679
When I get visceral about the people that that don't come down the hill, that's what I'm talking about.
01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:31.119
If you haven't been to Chaka Sundays in in 14 years, if you haven't been to Mobile Mondays, if you haven't done, you just pulled up the killing it.
01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:36.239
If you haven't pulled up to killing it, let's say, let's say you you're not you're not active no more.
01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:36.559
Yeah.
01:05:37.039 --> 01:05:41.119
Maybe you do your tours or whatever, whatever, but you're not active anymore.
01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:42.239
We don't see you.
01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:43.199
You don't love us.
01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:44.960
You don't you're this is your job now.
01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:46.719
Yeah, I so it's like people do that.
01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:52.000
You the people that are keeping it alive, and then you just be on the interview of them when they were like, it's a fraternity.
01:05:52.159 --> 01:05:54.639
Like, nigga, we ain't sick, you ain't paid your dues.
01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:55.599
It's hot, nigga.
01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:57.039
I bet you break your back.
01:05:58.400 --> 01:05:59.760
Do you even remember the step?
01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:00.320
Right.
01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:01.760
Hey, are you serious?
01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:02.639
We have not seen you.
01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:03.440
We ain't seen you.
01:06:03.920 --> 01:06:04.480
We haven't seen you.
01:06:04.559 --> 01:06:07.440
So it's like if you're keeping the art form alive, that's true.
01:06:07.599 --> 01:06:18.079
Uh any stand-up show, unless it's called Legacy X or brand new niggas, should have the idea should be the people that are keeping the art form alive right now.
01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:21.679
Who is in the business, killing shit, running through the business.
01:06:21.760 --> 01:06:22.960
That's what you have on, baby.
01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:25.119
And when I looked at the list, that's who was on there.
01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:26.320
I said perfectly fine.
01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:28.079
That's all I it's all I wanted.
01:06:28.639 --> 01:06:29.440
I just wanted to give people.
01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:30.880
I'll see you niggas season three.
01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:32.239
I yeah, I want to.
01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:33.679
But I I see.
01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:40.559
But I wanted people to see, like when they watch it, they were like, what is stand-up look like currently?
01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:41.119
Exactly.
01:06:41.280 --> 01:06:45.440
And I didn't want what does popular stand-up look like currently?
01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:49.760
What does actual stand-up look like currently?
01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:50.400
Right.
01:06:50.719 --> 01:06:54.400
And it was, man, that's why like Ron Taylor winning.
01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:55.360
Oh my God.
01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:58.719
Means so much to me.
01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:00.719
It meant so much to me.
01:07:01.119 --> 01:07:01.920
I can't talk about it.
01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:02.559
I'm gonna cry.
01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:03.760
So but it meant so much to me.
01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:04.719
We need our Oprah.
01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:06.559
Tears, man.
01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:06.880
Tears.
01:07:07.199 --> 01:07:07.599
That's real, man.
01:07:08.239 --> 01:07:21.360
It meant so much to me because, like, one of my biggest knocks on Netflix is man, you guys have the eyeballs.
01:07:22.239 --> 01:07:29.920
You got millions of eyeballs that you can put on this craft, and it's never about the craft.
01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:35.039
And I kept saying, man, they don't care about who the best out here is.
01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:37.360
They don't care who the best out here is.
01:07:37.519 --> 01:07:40.559
And then they did one competition where they're like, well, we'll see who the best.
01:07:40.639 --> 01:07:41.519
And the best won.
01:07:42.320 --> 01:07:50.400
Which proved my point that you niggas never cared about because Ron been in front of your face the whole goddamn time.
01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:52.000
I went into Netflix.
01:07:52.559 --> 01:07:57.519
There was some black women who frequent uh uh Chakra Sundays.
01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:01.599
And they would they see me doing this every week, and every now and then I I take a little shot at Netflix.
01:08:01.760 --> 01:08:03.199
I'm like, I'd slow the set down.
01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:05.679
I'm like, no, let me be interesting because that's how you get a special.
01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:06.639
No more laughs, you guys.
01:08:07.039 --> 01:08:07.519
Yeah.
01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:14.320
And they they they made it, they took it upon themselves to produce a show at the Netflix building specifically for me.
01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:17.439
Hey, call some comics you know, this is gonna be the show.
01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:18.159
We love you.
01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:20.159
We need, we just gonna bring the people down.
01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:22.319
I don't even know what department they work in.
01:08:22.399 --> 01:08:23.920
They was like, they just put it together.
01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:24.800
It was beautiful.
01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:27.520
In that meeting, I was running walking around talking to Netflix people.
01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:28.479
I said, you know what y'all need?
01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:29.840
Y'all need a comedy competition.
01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:37.600
I said, Y'all need a comedy competition, set the shit up, let the comedy at the time, I don't even know about the the Kev thing.
01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:41.279
And then like after I said it to a few people, they kept bringing people into the conversation.
01:08:41.359 --> 01:08:44.640
And then one of them like, yeah, I think Kev's working on like a competition thing.
01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:46.479
Fast forward to Ron Taylor winning.
01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:47.439
Who knows?
01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:50.960
Yeah, and I might just I I'm not saying I sparked the idea.
01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:53.119
I'm saying it already existed because it was right there.
01:08:53.199 --> 01:08:56.319
It's like No, I'm gonna tell you, it hat it actually happened.
01:08:56.479 --> 01:09:02.399
I hope, I hope I don't get in trouble for this, but actually it happened before COVID shut it down.
01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:06.560
There actually was, you know, they did the hip-hop version.
01:09:06.720 --> 01:09:06.880
Yeah.
01:09:07.279 --> 01:09:11.760
They did a comedy version of that, and they were into like the second and third round.
01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:12.960
You mean the one that T.I.
01:09:13.039 --> 01:09:15.520
and all of them did, and that's what rhythm and flow.
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:15.760
Yeah.
01:09:16.479 --> 01:09:17.760
They asked me to be on second season.
01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:18.640
A rhythm and flow?
01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:20.720
Yeah, I was like, I'm on my guy if I can't be right.
01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:24.319
That's when I was putting out music.
01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:24.960
No, yeah, yeah.
01:09:25.119 --> 01:09:26.640
Nah, they hit me up to be on it, but I'm listening.
01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:29.680
Yeah, they did, they was doing a comedy version of it.
01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:38.880
And uh, God, I don't, I don't know if I get in trouble, but a couple of our peers who really get down, who really get busy, was on that.
01:09:39.119 --> 01:09:41.840
And I know they were about to, they were about to show them what time is it.
01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:43.119
Kevin hosting that too?
01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:45.600
No, they they were doing it like rhythm and flow.
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:50.800
So uh I can't remember who all was a judge, but it, yeah, man.
01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:54.960
And then COVID shut it down, and I was like, oh, this, see, it ain't gonna happen.
01:09:55.039 --> 01:10:00.079
But then whenever they did that one, and this is what I was talking about when filming, right?
01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:07.680
Is people when you look at Ron Taylor's set in the finals, there's thousands of people there, right?
01:10:09.039 --> 01:10:11.520
Nobody bought a Ron Taylor ticket.
01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:12.399
It didn't matter.
01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:22.720
That nigga is so good that they filled up a room of thousands of people that did not really know who he was, and he murdered.
01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:24.079
He rocked that bitch.
01:10:24.239 --> 01:10:27.680
That's what so when if some people go, how come I don't get an opportunity?
01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:29.199
Do you know how good you got?
01:10:29.520 --> 01:10:34.560
If he that good in front of niggas who don't know him, imagine when he gets his face.
01:10:34.880 --> 01:10:35.279
Oh my god.
01:10:35.359 --> 01:10:37.439
So you know, the paint gonna come off the wall.
01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:38.159
Oh my goodness.
01:10:38.319 --> 01:10:41.520
Bro, that's a you know, the to your same, to the same point.
01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:53.119
That's why you you catch cats at the Y at the Y, and just because a nigga's in the league and he ain't getting no playing time, the nigga at the end of the bench is still way better.
01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:54.000
Way better.
01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:54.880
Way better.
01:10:55.119 --> 01:10:56.640
Nigga, just to get to the league.
01:10:56.880 --> 01:10:56.960
Yeah.
01:10:57.199 --> 01:10:57.920
You gotta be.
01:10:58.880 --> 01:11:06.239
Let me ask you this important, not not to even go into that, but you you I I can see your uh your loyalty to Ron.
01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:13.279
I hear about your I can tell that you got some some fundamental things that you get from home.
01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:14.239
Where does that come from?
01:11:14.399 --> 01:11:23.520
Some things, what I'm saying is basically I can see there's some things within you that the industry hasn't removed from you.
01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:25.279
There's some gro some grounded things.
01:11:25.359 --> 01:11:26.479
Where does that come from?
01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:31.279
Uh loyalty is such a huge thing for me.
01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:37.279
Um and just because it's a huge thing for me don't mean I always get it right.
01:11:37.359 --> 01:11:38.159
I'm a human.
01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:38.560
Right.
01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:48.560
Because I can I can mess up a relationship too, or I can end up doing something where my loyalty didn't show up the way that it should, or I might have been loyal to the wrong things.
01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:49.039
Right.
01:11:49.199 --> 01:11:49.439
Right.
01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:54.399
But loyalty will always be such a huge thing for me.
01:11:54.560 --> 01:12:01.199
And out here I learned that survival is a huge thing for people out here.
01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:17.279
Or like everybody, and I'm not everybody, but you know, we talk indefinite when it's not, but it feels like everybody is wanting to come up and and it's never about loyalty.
01:12:17.439 --> 01:12:28.560
Like, this pie, we talking about three niggas who were successful who could have just did it on their own, but saw the value in each other.
01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:29.199
Right.
01:12:29.520 --> 01:12:31.359
Nigga, that's just not a thing.
01:12:32.720 --> 01:12:33.439
Like a nigga.
01:12:35.760 --> 01:12:37.279
It's so crazy.
01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:47.199
Like, like, man, uh I remember uh I um wanted to do like, you did gimme five.
01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:47.760
Yes.
01:12:48.079 --> 01:13:02.640
And then uh I was uh doing this thing where I was starting to film top five or whatever, and and they were like, well, you know, dad, man, you know, BT doing whatever, whatever.
01:13:02.720 --> 01:13:04.319
I was like, yeah, I'll do something else.
01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:08.720
They were like, nah, what if we could, hey man, ain't stepping on this nigga's shit.
01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:09.920
What are you talking about?
01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:12.399
Nigga, I'ma do two episodes.
01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:12.720
Right.
01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:13.199
That's right.
01:13:13.680 --> 01:13:14.159
That's what it is.
01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:23.920
Like the way, man, out here, you can't even be like, if I'm excited about something I create, I gotta be worried about telling a nigga.
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:24.479
Right.
01:13:24.720 --> 01:13:30.079
Because he might get a general and not have nothing to pitch and pitch your life.
01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:31.119
And pitch your shit.
01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:32.720
And pitch your life.
01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:34.800
It was like, they're like, you got anything?
01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:37.119
What if I was a comedian from North Carolina?
01:13:37.520 --> 01:13:38.880
And a green about this.
01:13:40.479 --> 01:13:41.520
I wore a green hoodie.
01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:43.199
Y'all wore a green hoodie.
01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:46.239
This is what I wanted to ask you.
01:13:46.399 --> 01:13:55.119
This is one of my last questions, is okay, you're popping on on social media, you're killing it with the ticket sales.
01:13:55.359 --> 01:13:58.319
You're starting to get into the door when it comes to Hollywood.
01:13:58.479 --> 01:14:05.039
Is there a part of you that feel like you're still being slept on by the Hollywood system?
01:14:05.279 --> 01:14:05.600
Yeah.
01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:10.319
Yeah, I'm definitely being slept on by Hollywood, but only certain aspects of Hollywood.
01:14:10.479 --> 01:14:12.000
There's, I'm in the door.
01:14:12.159 --> 01:14:14.319
I've been in the door for a minute.
01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:21.600
But the uh people who believe in me are, you know, in this game, niggas have runs.
01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:22.239
Right.
01:14:22.560 --> 01:14:27.760
Where it's certain times where people just seem like some people are getting everything greenlit.
01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:35.359
And and right now, I'm connected to a person who's it seems like they're getting everything greenlit, who believe in me.
01:14:35.520 --> 01:14:37.840
So whenever you have that, it's like the Ryan's.
01:14:38.079 --> 01:14:39.359
Who's this person in their email address?
01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:39.840
Man.
01:14:42.399 --> 01:14:43.760
It's actually a group.
01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:44.560
It's a group.
01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:45.840
It's a collector.
01:14:46.239 --> 01:14:48.640
It's a collective, but they're collective at gmail.com.
01:14:50.239 --> 01:14:53.119
But uh even then, I don't, I just don't lean on that.
01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:54.239
I don't lean on it.
01:14:54.319 --> 01:14:57.119
Like, my ticket sales have doubled since the drop of my special.
01:14:57.199 --> 01:14:57.279
Yeah.
01:14:57.359 --> 01:14:57.520
Wow.
01:14:57.760 --> 01:14:58.000
Right?
01:14:58.079 --> 01:14:58.479
Yeah.
01:14:58.640 --> 01:15:04.000
But I don't talk about it because uh you can I can say that, people like, oh, he's flexing.
01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:09.279
No, I could be telling you comics that this is the way.
01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:10.880
Drop the special.
01:15:11.680 --> 01:15:15.039
But all people are here is that this nigga talking about how many tickets he said.
01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:20.000
No, I'm telling my peers, nigga, that this is it's in front of you.
01:15:20.159 --> 01:15:21.119
Nate showed you.
01:15:21.439 --> 01:15:23.439
Ali showed you, Matt showed you.
01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:24.720
You gotta show them the thing.
01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:26.239
You gotta show.
01:15:26.479 --> 01:15:27.359
Stop holding on.
01:15:27.439 --> 01:15:29.279
They they beat it into our heads.
01:15:29.439 --> 01:15:34.319
Hold on to your material because one day you, you know, you're gonna have to film.
01:15:34.479 --> 01:15:35.680
Man, let all that shit go.
01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:41.840
Everybody that just did that Netflix competition did all the jokes you already seen on their goddamn page.
01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:42.479
That's a fact.
01:15:42.640 --> 01:15:43.359
Wow, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:45.359
All of them did.
01:15:45.520 --> 01:15:47.359
Man, I've been tracking Ron.
01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:52.000
This nigga did uh crew, how many followers did he get yesterday?
01:15:52.239 --> 01:15:53.039
42,000.
01:15:53.279 --> 01:15:55.199
42,000 yesterday.
01:15:55.439 --> 01:15:55.840
Wow.
01:15:57.199 --> 01:15:58.079
24 hours.
01:15:58.239 --> 01:15:58.479
Yeah.
01:15:59.279 --> 01:16:01.119
Put the stand-up out, nigga.
01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:03.359
Just just put it out.
01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:10.000
And whatever, like somebody like me, y'all, uh comics are so egotistical.
01:16:10.079 --> 01:16:11.520
You think everybody knows you.
01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:12.800
That's hilarious.
01:16:13.359 --> 01:16:14.000
Oh my God.
01:16:14.640 --> 01:16:16.239
They're like, why ain't I get picked?
01:16:16.399 --> 01:16:17.359
Believe it or not.
01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:20.239
Nobody knows who the fuck you are.
01:16:20.479 --> 01:16:22.079
I'm killing it in my city.
01:16:22.319 --> 01:16:24.640
None of them people are making decisions, nigga.
01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:31.600
Like, so whenever, so if if uh if they like, man, we need to pick people from different cities, right?
01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:35.359
And they be like, yo, who ha who nice in Sacramento?
01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:37.359
I'll ask you, I'll ask Lance.
01:16:37.680 --> 01:16:39.199
I'm not going to Sacramento.
01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:39.600
Right, bro.
01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:44.640
If they don't have a relationship with you, why don't you have a relationship with BT or Lance?
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:45.119
Right.
01:16:45.279 --> 01:16:45.760
That's a fact.
01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:46.159
Yeah.
01:16:46.319 --> 01:16:48.079
Them of the dogs from your city.
01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:51.600
Them of the niggas you saw got it done and got out and doing the.
01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:53.359
Why the fuck they ain't talking to you?
01:16:53.520 --> 01:16:55.520
If you, I don't even think you're serious.
01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:55.760
Yeah.
01:16:56.159 --> 01:16:56.880
Straight up.
01:16:57.119 --> 01:17:03.439
If you don't know who, if you ain't connected to who doing it and did it out of your city for real.
01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:03.680
Yeah.
01:17:03.840 --> 01:17:08.159
And then you wonder why you don't get picked, then you're like, man, I feel like I'm the nicest.
01:17:08.239 --> 01:17:09.920
You go to the page, you ain't posted one.
01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:11.039
How I know?
01:17:11.279 --> 01:17:12.319
How I know how good you are.
01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:13.359
I'm here with my baby.
01:17:13.600 --> 01:17:16.479
Hey, man, you got me and my girl on date.
01:17:16.960 --> 01:17:17.279
Yeah.
01:17:18.159 --> 01:17:20.640
You couldn't tell from this picture of me and my girl.
01:17:20.800 --> 01:17:23.359
I got an old ass flyer from sex six months ago.
01:17:23.520 --> 01:17:23.840
Right.
01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:26.239
And I'm just like, you ain't see the picture of me on stage.
01:17:26.399 --> 01:17:31.760
Man, if you don't get the fuck out my face with this, y'all, you gotta understand, y'all.
01:17:32.319 --> 01:17:36.479
You gotta give people the opportunity to find you.
01:17:36.560 --> 01:17:38.159
You're not doing the things to find.
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:44.319
That's like doing the hey, you go into a job interview, they're like, hey man, uh, how do I know you can do this job?
01:17:44.479 --> 01:17:45.520
Trust me, my nigga.
01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:46.079
Yeah.
01:17:46.319 --> 01:17:47.119
Right, right, right.
01:17:47.920 --> 01:17:48.640
You just relax.
01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:49.199
I got it.
01:17:49.359 --> 01:17:50.000
Ask about me.
01:17:50.159 --> 01:17:50.399
Right.
01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:51.119
Ask who?
01:17:51.520 --> 01:17:52.000
Anybody.
01:17:52.159 --> 01:17:53.600
Hey, man, you better get this nigga out.
01:17:54.720 --> 01:17:55.680
Hey, anybody, you know him.
01:17:55.920 --> 01:17:56.720
I never met this nigga before.
01:17:56.880 --> 01:17:58.640
Yeah, and then somebody walked by, you know this nigga?
01:17:58.960 --> 01:18:00.479
Never seen this nigga a day in my life.
01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:02.800
I got I gotta do a little cocaw.
01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:03.119
All right.
01:18:03.359 --> 01:18:04.399
All right, uh, a little cocawal.
01:18:04.479 --> 01:18:04.880
I know, I know.
01:18:05.119 --> 01:18:05.920
I see you watch it.
01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:07.439
Uh a little coca-call talk.
01:18:07.600 --> 01:18:19.119
Um, what was the how much money had you made when you decided that I what was the decision making that made you say, I don't need to be in LA?
01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:23.199
I could go and buy some property over here, I could be back and forth, I could fly as much as I want.
01:18:23.439 --> 01:18:25.680
Because he lived in LA for three weeks and then he moved to the L.
01:18:25.840 --> 01:18:27.199
Yeah, lived like four years.
01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:28.399
Yeah, four years, okay.
01:18:28.560 --> 01:18:29.119
Yeah, so let's.
01:18:32.399 --> 01:18:40.159
I'ma tell you, man, uh uh when COVID hit, we and then you know London and y'all, y'all, they you turn in auditions digitally.
01:18:40.479 --> 01:18:40.720
Yeah, yeah.
01:18:41.039 --> 01:18:44.079
Once I ain't gotta stand in front of people no more, what the fuck am I here for?
01:18:44.239 --> 01:18:44.399
Right.
01:18:44.720 --> 01:18:46.319
Yeah, I can feel this anywhere.
01:18:46.479 --> 01:18:46.640
Yeah.
01:18:46.880 --> 01:18:55.199
But the thing for me that was very important is I couldn't get a situation right with my children to where I could get them over here.
01:18:55.680 --> 01:18:57.520
So I had to keep flying back.
01:18:57.680 --> 01:19:00.880
And I was like, man, now I ain't gonna audition, now I ain't gotta do that.
01:19:00.960 --> 01:19:04.079
The first thing I thought was, man, let me get closer to my kids.
01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:09.520
And then when I got over to uh when I made it back home, I realized I had too much money.
01:19:11.119 --> 01:19:12.800
It kept me humble out here.
01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:16.319
Right, right.
01:19:16.560 --> 01:19:17.279
Real money.
01:19:17.439 --> 01:19:20.960
And and I didn't know that my real, that my money was real.
01:19:21.039 --> 01:19:22.399
It ain't real here.
01:19:22.800 --> 01:19:24.960
But it's a good thing.
01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:27.359
You doing very well.
01:19:27.680 --> 01:19:28.880
I'm doing very well.
01:19:29.359 --> 01:19:30.159
The mayor keeps calling.
01:19:30.479 --> 01:19:34.560
And then you see Jamie Foxx House, she be like, man, I ain't made a dime since I've been out here.
01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:37.600
Then you get back home and it's like, I can have Jamie Foxx House.
01:19:37.760 --> 01:19:39.039
I just gotta have it over here.
01:19:39.680 --> 01:19:41.199
I just gotta have it over here.
01:19:42.720 --> 01:19:44.319
All my property on the East Coast.
01:19:44.479 --> 01:19:45.760
Yeah, in the south.
01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:46.000
Yeah.
01:19:46.640 --> 01:19:46.720
Yeah.
01:19:47.119 --> 01:19:47.199
Yeah.
01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:48.960
He let the flex told me a couple times.
01:19:49.039 --> 01:19:51.680
Another like, yeah, I'm thinking about getting in the property.
01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:53.119
You know, what do you think about Florida?
01:19:53.199 --> 01:19:55.279
He's have you seen my Florida property?
01:19:58.960 --> 01:20:00.319
That sounds like some shit I did.
01:20:03.039 --> 01:20:04.319
Let me flip my shit.
01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:10.079
Well, and listen, nah, man.
01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:20.239
The thing was, uh I I grew up poor, for lack of a better phrase, uh, a better word.
01:20:20.800 --> 01:20:22.640
And I'm low maintenance.
01:20:22.800 --> 01:20:22.960
Right.
01:20:23.199 --> 01:20:24.399
I don't need nothing.
01:20:24.560 --> 01:20:24.800
Right.
01:20:25.039 --> 01:20:28.479
Man, the thing I spent all my money on was food and shoes.
01:20:28.640 --> 01:20:28.880
Yeah.
01:20:29.039 --> 01:20:29.520
Yeah.
01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:33.359
That was that was two things I didn't have a lot of.
01:20:33.520 --> 01:20:35.520
And then now I get to have as much as I want.
01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:37.840
So I'm still pretty low maintenance.
01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:41.680
Uh even the house I live in now is very small.
01:20:41.920 --> 01:20:44.399
Uh I just need enough room for me and my babies.
01:20:44.479 --> 01:20:44.720
Yeah.
01:20:44.880 --> 01:20:46.079
And we good to go.
01:20:46.800 --> 01:20:52.720
I think the reason I ask or sometimes I pose that conversation is it's not really about the dollar amount.
01:20:52.800 --> 01:20:56.079
But what happens is, uh, I'll step out of this conversation, step in.
01:20:56.159 --> 01:20:58.640
There's like a perspective of like comedy's like, oh, what do you do?
01:20:58.720 --> 01:21:00.079
What advice would you get to a comment?
01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:01.520
It's like, well, where is the motherfucker?
01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:04.319
Like uh Nate said we were sitting in the show, he was like, Are they funny yet?
01:21:04.479 --> 01:21:05.680
Because that's a different conversation.
01:21:05.920 --> 01:21:07.920
Now that you're funny, okay, cool.
01:21:08.079 --> 01:21:15.279
But now there's a conversation of, okay, cool, you're hilarious, and you're there's you're not worried about bills anymore.
01:21:15.359 --> 01:21:16.640
How, how now what?
01:21:16.720 --> 01:21:20.479
It's like how long has Nate been doing it, do you think?
01:21:20.640 --> 01:21:22.000
Uh it's definitely over 20 for some.
01:21:22.800 --> 01:21:23.039
For sure.
01:21:23.279 --> 01:21:24.479
So over 20, right?
01:21:24.880 --> 01:21:27.279
Took him 20 years to become an overnight success.
01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:27.840
Right.
01:21:27.920 --> 01:21:28.239
Yep.
01:21:28.399 --> 01:21:29.439
That's what people don't understand.
01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:33.840
They'd be like, man, you see Nate doing uh crowd work, you'd be like, I can do that.
01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:36.800
Nigga, you ain't been doing crowd work for 20 years.
01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:38.239
You can't do that in your wildest.
01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:40.960
And he was one of the best four years ever showed y'all to do crowd work.
01:21:41.359 --> 01:21:42.800
We already knew.
01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:44.720
We already knew.
01:21:45.279 --> 01:21:46.960
Man, I'm gonna tell y'all, man.
01:21:47.279 --> 01:21:50.319
Y'all ain't see Nate before.
01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:56.319
Then when y'all was seeing him do crowd work, I was like, he cheating y'all.
01:21:56.560 --> 01:21:57.920
Y'all don't even know.
01:21:58.640 --> 01:21:59.840
Y'all don't even know.
01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:06.399
I remember when like after Transformers came out and he had the Transformer bit where he talked about jazz and all the stuff.
01:22:06.720 --> 01:22:07.279
The nigga button.
01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:09.199
Nigga, what?
01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:11.119
And then I'm watching crowd work.
01:22:11.600 --> 01:22:12.720
Y'all did Def Jam together, yeah.
01:22:12.960 --> 01:22:16.880
Man, I was like, ah, man, that nigga have you pissing on yourself.
01:22:17.359 --> 01:22:19.119
Y'all have no idea.
01:22:19.520 --> 01:22:19.760
Yes.
01:22:19.920 --> 01:22:25.920
You have no clue what type of, and and and some people are like, well, I'm seeing Nate, right?
01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:32.560
I'll tell anybody, if you want to get into comedy, cool, you got 10 years of your life to throw away in hopes that something will happen.
01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:33.840
Two good relationships.
01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:34.239
Yeah.
01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:35.199
Yeah.
01:22:35.840 --> 01:22:36.479
Yeah.
01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:37.119
Yeah.
01:22:37.520 --> 01:22:38.239
10 years ago.
01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:40.399
Like, man, and because I was that nigga.
01:22:40.479 --> 01:22:41.600
It ain't gonna take me 10 years.
01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:43.039
That's why I worked so hard to become a.
01:22:43.279 --> 01:22:49.920
And as soon as I got to be a headliner and did all this, couldn't even make the special until I was 10 years in.
01:22:50.079 --> 01:22:50.319
Right.
01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:52.560
Nigga, you can't cheat it.
01:22:52.720 --> 01:22:54.560
The process is the process.
01:22:54.800 --> 01:22:58.720
You not really gonna be nice like that until 10 years.
01:22:58.960 --> 01:23:01.119
Because it's so much you have to experience.
01:23:01.279 --> 01:23:02.800
There's so much you have to go through.
01:23:02.880 --> 01:23:04.560
There's so much you have to see.
01:23:04.880 --> 01:23:07.199
And nigga, even when you become a headliner, right?
01:23:07.279 --> 01:23:10.319
You become, you go from, you go from host to feature, right?
01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:21.520
When you go from host, right, you gotta learn how to deal with doing material while niggas is sitting down, niggas is ordering, niggas is walking in, everything, right?
01:23:21.760 --> 01:23:23.680
That's why he's phenomenal, BT at hosting.
01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:24.079
Yeah.
01:23:24.399 --> 01:23:29.359
You gotta do and keep people invested and the show still be good, right?
01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:34.399
And then you gotta you gotta remember announcements, you gotta know how to get into them, get out.
01:23:34.479 --> 01:23:38.640
You gotta, if somebody fuck up, you gotta be able to reset the room and set them back up.
01:23:39.119 --> 01:23:42.960
The host is, nigga, the host is the quarterback.
01:23:43.039 --> 01:23:44.800
He the driver of the of the ship.
01:23:45.039 --> 01:23:45.199
Right.
01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:47.600
Your host is so important.
01:23:47.920 --> 01:23:51.760
And then like you get into the feature spot, and the feature spot is all money.
01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:52.239
Oh my god.
01:23:52.479 --> 01:23:54.239
Everybody then did the work in front of you.
01:23:54.560 --> 01:23:56.720
Somebody about to do all the work behind you.
01:23:57.119 --> 01:23:58.479
You just in the sweet spot.
01:23:58.560 --> 01:23:58.640
Yeah.
01:23:58.800 --> 01:24:01.359
And then people be like, man, I'm ready to be a headliner.
01:24:01.439 --> 01:24:02.399
I think I've done it.
01:24:02.479 --> 01:24:03.199
Well, we're finna see.
01:24:03.760 --> 01:24:06.640
I'm gonna tell you, 25 ain't nowhere near an hour.
01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:07.439
It is not.
01:24:07.600 --> 01:24:09.279
I promise you it ain't nowhere near an hour.
01:24:09.680 --> 01:24:10.560
They get hot up there.
01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:11.039
25.
01:24:12.239 --> 01:24:14.560
And then you go, and then you go, all right, I'm cool.
01:24:14.640 --> 01:24:15.439
I'm I'm surfing.
01:24:15.520 --> 01:24:18.319
Then at the 45-minute mark, they drop checks on your ass.
01:24:18.479 --> 01:24:19.119
Yeah, slowed up.
01:24:20.159 --> 01:24:21.920
Yeah, they drop checks on your ass.
01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:27.279
And you gotta deal with shit as a headliner that the host was dealing with.
01:24:27.439 --> 01:24:36.239
You don't even think as a headliner, you'll have to, you like, hey man, you about to get into your best bit and you hear somebody go, hey man, I ain't ordered this many goddamn wings.
01:24:36.640 --> 01:24:41.199
And if you think you, you think you funnier than a nigga who just got overcharged, you crazy.
01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:42.560
You'll never be funny.
01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:43.520
You'll never be that good.
01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:45.359
You'll never be that good.
01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:46.479
You'll never be that good.
01:24:46.640 --> 01:24:48.479
And you're like, hey man, I'm about to tell this joke.
01:24:48.560 --> 01:24:51.680
Nigga, somebody gotta take this shit off my tab, nigga.
01:24:51.840 --> 01:24:56.960
Like that is nothing you can say to a nigga, and especially people who are splitting the bill.
01:24:57.039 --> 01:24:58.399
I ain't ordered all this.
01:24:59.279 --> 01:25:02.479
Check drop and you gotta, and check drop a fuck with your ego.
01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:02.720
Yeah.
01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:10.399
If you've been killing, and then all of a sudden you you got 25% of the room, you be like, damn, y'all ain't like that joke.
01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:12.560
And you look, and ain't nobody looking at you.
01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:13.680
Everybody down.
01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:15.680
Nigga, everybody bones over the t.
01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:18.319
Yeah, I was like, so now you gotta learn.
01:25:18.560 --> 01:25:32.479
Now you gotta learn how to pace, and then you gotta have bits that you willing to just, your ego is not gonna hurt whenever you do during check drop, and then when they come up, you gotta be able to end with a boom.
01:25:33.199 --> 01:25:36.079
Now you go, hey, it's time to shoot the special.
01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:39.680
There's no check drop during the special.
01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:44.479
So whatever, even if you got a prolific club hour, that's not a special hour.
01:25:44.560 --> 01:25:44.720
Yeah.
01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:49.600
Because you are, you've already, you've been rehearsing for club.
01:25:50.239 --> 01:25:53.359
You, and then you you're gonna shoot the special in a theater.
01:25:53.680 --> 01:25:56.720
Club pace and theater pace ain't the same pace.
01:25:57.039 --> 01:25:57.439
There's different things.
01:25:57.680 --> 01:25:58.640
It ain't even the same at some point.
01:25:58.800 --> 01:26:00.399
Theater pace is different than arena pace.
01:26:00.640 --> 01:26:01.760
It's different than arena pace.
01:26:02.479 --> 01:26:04.880
That's why I be looking at people and be like, I'm ready to do.
01:26:05.119 --> 01:26:06.319
You ain't ready to do shit.
01:26:06.800 --> 01:26:12.239
There's so much you gotta do and experience before you could ever.
01:26:13.359 --> 01:26:16.960
One of the biggest things, people look at my special and be like, it's so good.
01:26:17.119 --> 01:26:18.159
How did you prepare?
01:26:18.720 --> 01:26:23.840
If it wasn't for Jill Scott, I don't even know if that special looks like that.
01:26:24.079 --> 01:26:28.880
She took me on a theater tour run as her opening act.
01:26:29.119 --> 01:26:35.439
I would have never been able to fill up those seats to be able to get the uh the reps.
01:26:37.439 --> 01:26:38.800
I don't know how to explain.
01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:41.840
I don't know how to tell that to somebody to get people to understand that.
01:26:41.920 --> 01:26:44.319
They'd be like, Ryan, I'm ready to do my hour.
01:26:44.479 --> 01:26:47.520
Nigga, if you a club comic, do the hour in a club.
01:26:47.840 --> 01:26:48.319
Facts.
01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:50.800
Do it where you do it at.
01:26:51.439 --> 01:26:52.960
Do it where you do it at.
01:26:53.199 --> 01:26:55.680
You you man, you play where you practice.
01:26:56.079 --> 01:26:56.640
That's a fact.
01:26:56.880 --> 01:26:57.840
You play where you practice.
01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:00.159
Everybody like, but I I want to look like a star.
01:27:00.319 --> 01:27:02.319
You gonna look stupid as shit.
01:27:03.039 --> 01:27:11.039
If you ain't used to how the laughs come back to you and you experience it, yeah, you experiencing it for the first time during your special.
01:27:11.199 --> 01:27:12.000
Are you slow?
01:27:12.159 --> 01:27:12.479
Yeah.
01:27:12.720 --> 01:27:13.840
Have you lost your mind?
01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:14.239
Right.
01:27:14.399 --> 01:27:21.119
So I everything I did for the special, that's why I was so gung-ho about I'm telling y'all it's this good.
01:27:21.279 --> 01:27:24.000
I did all the work to make sure it was good.
01:27:24.159 --> 01:27:25.439
I it took me a year.
01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:27.279
I planned for that special for a year.
01:27:27.439 --> 01:27:29.279
Me and Royale scouted places.
01:27:29.439 --> 01:27:34.560
He was meeting me out on the road, running my set, taking notes.
01:27:34.720 --> 01:27:39.760
We going like I think people think you just you be like, I'm ready, and you grab a camera and you go.
01:27:39.920 --> 01:27:40.479
You can do that.
01:27:40.960 --> 01:27:42.800
And what you'll have is a recorded set.
01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:44.880
But you won't it won't be special.
01:27:45.119 --> 01:27:48.079
It won't be special, but you'll have a recorded set for sure.
01:27:48.239 --> 01:27:54.319
Because also, you gotta watch all of us do little things with our face, with our hands, or whatever.
01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:59.600
The person directing you gotta know when to push in, when to pull out, when.
01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:00.880
To go to the crowd.
01:28:01.039 --> 01:28:02.079
All that stuff matters.
01:28:02.159 --> 01:28:03.359
It's still a production.
01:28:04.479 --> 01:28:06.720
Yeah, it's not just you recording a set.
01:28:06.880 --> 01:28:09.279
I gotta know when you're gonna walk.
01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:11.199
When you're gonna, you know what I mean?
01:28:11.279 --> 01:28:12.720
When you're gonna use the stool.
01:28:12.800 --> 01:28:13.119
That's cool.
01:28:13.359 --> 01:28:14.960
If you're gonna use the all of that.
01:28:15.279 --> 01:28:15.920
Uncorded Mike.
01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:16.560
Uncorded Mike.
01:28:16.640 --> 01:28:17.199
It's so many different things.
01:28:17.359 --> 01:28:18.479
Yeah, uncorded Mike.
01:28:18.560 --> 01:28:22.720
Hey man, did you know you stick your hand in your pocket whenever you when you perform?
01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:26.159
Keep trying to do it without you can't do it.
01:28:26.319 --> 01:28:26.720
Cool.
01:28:26.960 --> 01:28:29.279
Hey, designer, don't put no pockets on this shit.
01:28:29.920 --> 01:28:31.359
Don't put no pockets on this shit.
01:28:31.840 --> 01:28:33.920
All that shit matters.
01:28:34.159 --> 01:28:35.279
All that shit matters.
01:28:35.359 --> 01:28:38.399
You gotta think about all this is your production.
01:28:38.960 --> 01:28:40.560
You gotta think of it like that.
01:28:40.720 --> 01:28:44.720
If you do not think it of it like that, you will have a recorded set.
01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:46.479
But you will not have a special.
01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:47.520
Me and a T.
01:28:48.079 --> 01:28:48.399
Oh.
01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:50.079
Oh, you niggas.
01:28:50.720 --> 01:28:51.760
Three words.
01:28:52.399 --> 01:28:52.800
Tell the people.
01:28:53.119 --> 01:28:53.359
Hold on.
01:28:53.600 --> 01:28:53.680
Listen.
01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:54.640
We're listening.
01:28:54.720 --> 01:28:55.520
Three words, bro.
01:28:55.680 --> 01:28:57.600
No, the audio people need to know what's happening.
01:28:57.840 --> 01:28:58.960
Um, what's going on?
01:28:59.039 --> 01:29:06.560
We sent, I just handed Ron a photo of him and his pops after a show.
01:29:07.359 --> 01:29:09.279
Uh uh.
01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:10.720
Oh man.
01:29:10.960 --> 01:29:11.520
What was you going?
01:29:11.840 --> 01:29:14.880
What what was that moment hugging your pops, man?
01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:19.359
My father had never even been on a plane before.
01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:21.520
Never even been on a plane before.
01:29:21.600 --> 01:29:23.439
He was diagnosed with cancer.
01:29:24.239 --> 01:29:27.600
Uh oh my God.
01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:30.399
So he he wasn't doing well.
01:29:30.640 --> 01:29:32.479
He didn't even have clothes for real.
01:29:33.520 --> 01:29:41.439
We flew, when he flew up to Chicago, I took him shopping and everything, but he was so much in pain, he couldn't even really try on the clothes.
01:29:41.520 --> 01:29:44.399
I had to help him put his shoes on and everything.
01:29:44.560 --> 01:29:49.039
But it was like nothing was gonna stop him from supporting me in that moment.
01:29:49.199 --> 01:29:51.039
Me and my mom wasn't even talking.
01:29:51.279 --> 01:29:53.199
And she wasn't, her and my dad wasn't talking.
01:29:53.359 --> 01:29:54.319
They were divorced.
01:29:54.479 --> 01:30:09.600
Both of them niggas is on a plane together coming to support their son because it the only thing that mattered to them was was that the the person that they created and they believed in and they sold all these seeds into is doing the thing that they love.
01:30:10.239 --> 01:30:20.399
It's the only man, I think sometimes people uh see my uh my criticism of my parents and they don't understand when I'm talking about these things.
01:30:20.640 --> 01:30:24.560
I know people go through stuff and nobody speaks on it.
01:30:24.720 --> 01:30:31.920
So I speak on it, and because I speak on it, people may think I think negatively of my parents, and I don't think negatively of my parents.
01:30:32.159 --> 01:30:34.399
I think negatively of some of their decisions.
01:30:34.640 --> 01:30:34.880
Right.
01:30:35.039 --> 01:30:35.760
You know what I mean?
01:30:35.840 --> 01:30:42.880
But I understand that they're human beings and I love them, and when it was and when it meant the most to me, they didn't even hesitate.
01:30:43.600 --> 01:30:46.960
All the things that they felt in them, they didn't even hesitate.
01:30:47.199 --> 01:30:49.119
And I'm talking about them in the special.
01:30:49.199 --> 01:30:56.159
I'm talking I'm on stage telling people I ain't talked to my mama in four years while she's looking at me.
01:30:56.319 --> 01:31:00.079
I'm telling my I'm telling people my dad had an inappropriate relationship with my mom.
01:31:00.159 --> 01:31:01.119
I look at this nigga like R.
01:31:01.279 --> 01:31:02.079
Kelly.
01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:13.279
While he's in the building and everybody, and then after the show, neither one of them went, even though it may hurt them to hear or whatever, it was I'm proud of you.
01:31:13.359 --> 01:31:15.439
It ain't I'm gonna make this about me.
01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:18.800
Meant the worst, it was always about me.
01:31:19.359 --> 01:31:21.600
Can't nobody tell me nothing about my parents, bro.
01:31:21.920 --> 01:31:22.479
That's beautiful, man.
01:31:22.640 --> 01:31:23.840
Can't nobody tell me.
01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:30.000
It was it was it I wanted it to be the greatest moment in of my life, and it and it and it was, man.
01:31:30.159 --> 01:31:31.520
It meant everything.
01:31:31.760 --> 01:31:32.720
It went everything.
01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:35.600
And I'm telling you, London, we boxing after this.
01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:37.920
There's no way.
01:31:38.319 --> 01:31:39.039
I ain't gonna hold you.
01:31:39.119 --> 01:31:41.359
We gonna jump this nigga because the optimum is supposed to be for y'all.
01:31:43.279 --> 01:31:46.640
This was about this is about go ahead and do it.
01:31:49.439 --> 01:31:49.920
Shit, man.
01:31:50.319 --> 01:31:51.439
Okay with shit, man.
01:31:51.520 --> 01:31:52.479
Uh we have a game.
01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:53.359
You ain't got no.
01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:54.159
I mean, we gotta.
01:31:54.960 --> 01:31:55.840
All right with shit.
01:31:56.000 --> 01:32:00.399
Uh all right, so uh this is a blind.
01:32:00.479 --> 01:32:03.039
Uh we in we in the game where we're wrapping up.
01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:08.800
This is a blind, uh, keep it, keep three, kill five.
01:32:09.039 --> 01:32:09.520
Woo!
01:32:10.159 --> 01:32:12.399
So you, so you ain't gonna know what's coming.
01:32:12.479 --> 01:32:12.720
I know.
01:32:12.960 --> 01:32:14.000
You didn't know we like these.
01:32:14.960 --> 01:32:15.359
Yeah.
01:32:15.600 --> 01:32:18.479
Keep three, cut five comedy specials.
01:32:21.920 --> 01:32:22.880
Number one.
01:32:23.920 --> 01:32:25.279
Bigger and blacker.
01:32:27.520 --> 01:32:32.960
I hate niggas smelling because you came by swinging.
01:32:33.279 --> 01:32:39.600
Yeah, because it's like strategically, I gotta keep it.
01:32:39.840 --> 01:32:40.800
I'm gonna keep it.
01:32:41.039 --> 01:32:41.439
All right.
01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:42.800
You only got two more keeps.
01:32:42.880 --> 01:32:43.199
I know.
01:32:43.359 --> 01:32:45.359
All right, about to hear a whole lot of cutting.
01:32:47.199 --> 01:32:49.119
Underrated never faded.
01:32:49.680 --> 01:32:50.479
It's cut.
01:32:50.640 --> 01:32:50.800
Okay.
01:32:51.359 --> 01:32:53.520
Possibly the funniest special ever in my mind.
01:32:54.000 --> 01:32:54.239
Okay.
01:32:54.399 --> 01:32:54.800
Yeah.
01:32:55.119 --> 01:32:56.079
Shout out to Mike Epps.
01:32:56.880 --> 01:33:04.560
Nigga, if you want to see a clinic and funny, a clinic, yeah, I might need security.
01:33:04.720 --> 01:33:05.680
I knew you were gonna say that.
01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:06.319
Cut it.
01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:09.279
And they all classic.
01:33:09.600 --> 01:33:10.319
They all classics.
01:33:10.399 --> 01:33:13.760
So yeah, when he started making flag, I was like, this nigga is only doing it.
01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:14.159
Wait.
01:33:14.640 --> 01:33:15.920
Sticks and stones.
01:33:16.239 --> 01:33:16.960
Keep.
01:33:17.359 --> 01:33:18.319
I love it.
01:33:18.800 --> 01:33:20.399
Live from sunset.
01:33:20.960 --> 01:33:21.439
Cut.
01:33:21.840 --> 01:33:23.439
I'ma tell you though.
01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:26.000
I had to cut that.
01:33:26.159 --> 01:33:28.239
I didn't get to experience it like everybody else did.
01:33:28.560 --> 01:33:28.720
That's okay.
01:33:29.119 --> 01:33:30.000
That's fair, that's fair.
01:33:30.479 --> 01:33:33.039
When I saw it, I thought it sucked.
01:33:33.359 --> 01:33:34.960
I'm gonna tell you why.
01:33:35.199 --> 01:33:37.039
Because I knew all the jokes already.
01:33:37.199 --> 01:33:41.760
Which means niggas have been stealing for prior for 30 years by the time it got to me.
01:33:41.920 --> 01:33:42.399
That's wild.
01:33:42.479 --> 01:33:42.640
Yeah.
01:33:42.800 --> 01:33:42.960
Yeah.
01:33:43.199 --> 01:33:43.600
That's wild.
01:33:43.760 --> 01:33:50.720
I couldn't even enjoy it because all you niggas in the 90s was telling them goddamn jokes and remixing them and everything.
01:33:50.960 --> 01:33:52.319
You dirty niggas.
01:33:53.840 --> 01:33:54.399
Yo, yo.
01:33:55.680 --> 01:33:57.199
Elephant in the room.
01:33:57.600 --> 01:33:58.239
It's over.
01:33:58.319 --> 01:33:59.119
That's the three cups.
01:34:06.399 --> 01:34:07.840
I'm cool with one of the cubs.
01:34:08.079 --> 01:34:11.119
Definitely, uh even if mine on there, nigga, you can crazy.
01:34:11.439 --> 01:34:14.720
Yep, because the one after that was definitely underrated.
01:34:19.119 --> 01:34:20.479
Hey, listen, man.
01:34:20.640 --> 01:34:22.720
I'm very proud of the work I did.
01:34:22.960 --> 01:34:24.479
But them three right there, nigga.
01:34:25.439 --> 01:34:28.079
We talked about three of the best five to ever do.
01:34:29.039 --> 01:34:36.000
The only argument I always have is bigger, blacker, better than Bring the Pain.
01:34:36.159 --> 01:34:36.800
Bring the pain.
01:34:36.880 --> 01:34:38.000
Yeah, bring the pain was.
01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:41.359
Bring the pain to me is just ruckus.
01:34:42.960 --> 01:34:44.560
I'm not talking about more on Chappelle, though.
01:34:44.640 --> 01:34:45.439
Sticks and Stones is my favorite.
01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:46.239
Sticks of Stones is the same.
01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:47.279
I think so.
01:34:47.439 --> 01:34:47.680
Me too.
01:34:48.720 --> 01:34:49.520
Final question, man.
01:34:49.600 --> 01:34:53.760
Um you are killing it in all avenues, man, uh, of what's going on, man.
01:34:53.920 --> 01:34:56.399
What does it look like specifically career-wise?
01:34:56.560 --> 01:34:58.399
What does killing it look like for you?
01:34:58.560 --> 01:35:01.199
Are you is it behind the camera, in front of the camera, more produce it?
01:35:01.439 --> 01:35:02.880
But what does it look like?
01:35:03.119 --> 01:35:05.359
I think this is what people need to.
01:35:05.439 --> 01:35:08.319
This is a conversation, not just for me.
01:35:08.720 --> 01:35:19.840
Every person who watches this, if you do not define what success looks like to you, you're gonna be out here winging it instead of killing it.
01:35:20.239 --> 01:35:32.640
The the the most important thing you can do to kill it is to really write down what and think about how would I feel if I didn't get this, but I got this.
01:35:33.600 --> 01:35:37.760
How would I feel if I got this and didn't get this?
01:35:37.920 --> 01:35:42.800
And you'll realize some of the little things mean more to you than some of the bigger things.
01:35:42.960 --> 01:35:47.039
And that's how some people get really big, but they not happy.
01:35:47.359 --> 01:35:47.520
Right.
01:35:47.760 --> 01:35:51.680
Because that was because you didn't write down what was meaningful to you.
01:35:52.399 --> 01:35:57.840
So for me, killing it, we go back and do that.
01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:08.319
You whenever you do that, uh keep three cut five, if it makes sense to have one of mine in there for every guest that you have, then I'm killing it.
01:36:08.560 --> 01:36:09.680
Then I'm doing a job.
01:36:09.840 --> 01:36:12.479
Everybody you name, Jamie Foxx, was killing it.
01:36:12.640 --> 01:36:14.880
Fucking Mike Epps was killing it.
01:36:15.119 --> 01:36:17.920
Patrice O'Neill, uh Martin Lawrence.
01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:19.119
Yeah, Jamie, yeah.
01:36:19.359 --> 01:36:22.880
Yeah, you named uh Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock.
01:36:22.960 --> 01:36:25.199
Those are, I believe that was the eight that you named, right?
01:36:25.439 --> 01:36:26.640
I meant to say Illen and Philly, too.
01:36:27.119 --> 01:36:27.840
Illan and Philly.
01:36:27.920 --> 01:36:28.960
So shout out to Tommy Davidson.
01:36:29.760 --> 01:36:34.079
And and and I knew the names of all these people based off the name of the special.
01:36:34.239 --> 01:36:35.520
That's killing it.
01:36:35.680 --> 01:36:41.920
To me, I want when people hear underrated or whatever it is that I name any of my work, and niggas go, that's Ryan Davis.
01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:45.520
Niggas who do the art are like, they're like, what are you talking about?
01:36:45.600 --> 01:36:46.640
You just named a masterpiece.
01:36:46.800 --> 01:36:49.760
Oh, Live from Sunset Strip, that's what you named for Richard Pryor.
01:36:50.079 --> 01:36:54.640
You ain't when you ain't gotta even say who did it, killing it.
01:36:54.880 --> 01:36:57.920
And and stand up is what I care about the most.
01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:00.880
So that's the thing that I want to be killing it in.
01:37:01.119 --> 01:37:06.319
And then when it comes to acting behind the screen and create, I just want to make dope shit with people I respect.
01:37:06.399 --> 01:37:06.800
That's it.
01:37:06.960 --> 01:37:07.279
That's it.
01:37:07.439 --> 01:37:08.800
I just want to make dope shit with people.
01:37:09.119 --> 01:37:10.319
I don't need no Oscars.
01:37:10.399 --> 01:37:11.600
I don't need no Emmys.
01:37:11.680 --> 01:37:15.279
I don't need nigga, Friday ain't never getting no Oscar, no Emmy, no nothing.
01:37:15.520 --> 01:37:16.800
Them niggas did something special.
01:37:17.279 --> 01:37:17.439
Special.
01:37:17.760 --> 01:37:18.880
They did something special.
01:37:19.039 --> 01:37:23.039
They made careers for like 15 people with one project.
01:37:23.199 --> 01:37:23.600
Yep.
01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:25.199
That's killing it.
01:37:25.359 --> 01:37:30.319
That's what man, I I want, I want more of us to do that.
01:37:30.800 --> 01:37:38.479
If I get to do that, if I get to make dope shit with other dope artists and it lasts forever, I that's the thing.
01:37:38.640 --> 01:37:48.319
I just want to create shit that when I'm long gone, I want people to be like, I want people to go to their kids and be like, hey, nigga, can't let you go into school and not see this.
01:37:48.800 --> 01:37:51.039
They're gonna take your card away if you don't know this.
01:37:51.199 --> 01:37:52.960
That I want to make that type of stuff.
01:37:53.359 --> 01:37:54.000
Impact is dope.
01:37:54.319 --> 01:37:55.039
Impact, baby.
01:37:55.199 --> 01:37:55.520
Yeah.
01:37:55.680 --> 01:37:56.079
We did it.
01:37:56.319 --> 01:37:56.960
Hey, we did it.
01:37:57.039 --> 01:38:00.560
Hey, let people know where they can find you at any projects you got coming at.
01:38:00.800 --> 01:38:01.279
Yes.
01:38:01.520 --> 01:38:04.399
Um, I'm about to shoot the second special.
01:38:04.800 --> 01:38:07.119
Um, really looking forward to that.
01:38:07.279 --> 01:38:10.479
Gotta lose some weight first, but yeah, gotta do that.
01:38:10.720 --> 01:38:13.119
Uh I'm on tour right now.
01:38:13.279 --> 01:38:18.399
Uh, it's called the Prove It Tour because uh Aries Spears hung me out the dry.
01:38:18.720 --> 01:38:25.039
Uh said I was said I said I was better than so many people that people are like, well, it's a nigga like that.
01:38:25.119 --> 01:38:26.239
I was like, okay, I'll prove it.
01:38:26.319 --> 01:38:26.960
So I'm on.
01:38:27.039 --> 01:38:28.960
That's what I'm that's the tour I'm on.
01:38:29.279 --> 01:38:35.840
Uh you follow me at Ryan, Ryan Davis comedian or Ryan Davis comedy into anything, I'll come up.
01:38:35.920 --> 01:38:40.079
Uh uh, you just follow me there, man, and just keep up with what I'm doing, you know?
01:38:40.319 --> 01:38:43.119
And I'm gonna just try to bring you the best stuff that I can.
01:38:43.199 --> 01:38:44.640
Make sure you come see me live, though.
01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:48.079
There's nothing better than my live show is that you can get from me.
01:38:48.159 --> 01:38:51.119
My live show is what I I'll I'll bet on that any day.
01:38:51.359 --> 01:38:52.399
Hey, that's a fact, man.
01:38:52.560 --> 01:38:52.880
It is.
01:38:53.039 --> 01:38:55.039
Hey, man, uh, this has been an amazing episode.
01:38:55.840 --> 01:38:56.479
One of my favorites.
01:38:57.439 --> 01:38:59.119
Uh appreciate y'all watching.
01:38:59.279 --> 01:39:01.119
Make sure you like, comment, subscribe.
01:39:01.199 --> 01:39:02.720
Uh, appreciate you sharing the clips.
01:39:02.880 --> 01:39:03.680
Keep doing that.
01:39:03.840 --> 01:39:05.439
Uh, let us know your favorite moments.
01:39:05.520 --> 01:39:07.439
What you took away from this conversation today.
01:39:07.520 --> 01:39:09.279
Let us let us know in the comment section.
01:39:09.439 --> 01:39:12.319
And uh, yeah, man, we've been your host, Justin Hyas.
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Lyndon Brown.
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BT Kingsley and two of the most amazing words of comedy right next.
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We did it, baby.
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It's so important for people to see new people, but it's also important for people to see the dogs that's been overlooked.
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Yes.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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It's so important.
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You were fighting for them.
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Yeah, and I be fighting for him.
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That's why he has a producer credit.
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Yo, man, I'm telling I was in these rooms and they were like, hey, such and such has a good following.
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And I was like, that's great.
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But have you seen this?
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Because this is a stand-up show.
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At the end of the day, who's gonna do the job?
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You need people you can trust.
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They going, hey man, but I really like this person.
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Have they ever filmed themselves doing stand-up?
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Have they acted?
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Have they ever had a camera right here while they have to do the thing that they have to do?
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Stand-up is difficult.
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It is difficult.
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And I learned this whenever I shot all deaf comedy.
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When they brought Def Comedy Jam back, that's right, I did that too.
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We're gonna get on.
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We start to gush us now, baby.
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When you film stand up, it's you.
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Clubs are set up for you to win.
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They can put the audience in the dark.
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They put the spotlight on you.
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There's ways to ignore what's happening in the room.
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When you film for TV, you see everything.
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You see the face of every person in that room.
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You see every camera.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And there's people in the room who don't like comedy, but they heard Comic View was shooting, and I want to be on camera.
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So now you ain't even in front of comedy fans.
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You gotta be so good that you make who don't usually do this laugh.
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Why would I put somebody up who only performs in front of their fans?
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Right.
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Your fans aren't here.
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It's not gonna go like you think it's gonna go.
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What's up, y'all?
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Killin' it is coming live to Flappers Comedy Club November 11th.
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That's right.
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We all hitting the stage and we slanging them jokes.
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Be slanging dick after the show, too.
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Hey, hey, hey, hey.
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Come on, ladies, pull up.
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No, get the tickets.
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Don't come by yourself, man.
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Get the tickets.
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You've been watching us online.
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Catch us live.
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Get them tickets right now, flapperscomedy.com.
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Do you have a you have a homie who do what you do?
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Not like that.
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I only hang with him.
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Yeah, like we done turned, we just turned to friendship.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Well, yeah, and he shot my he shot my uh I I I hosted Thanksgiving like a few weeks after that, and he came with his lady and he shot everything.
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My family got recorded it, everything.
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Because he was shooting everything.
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He live events, weddings, everything.
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He shoot the whole thing.
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But after I started seeing his work from working together, I was like, I was like, hey man, too bad you can't do this full time.
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He was like, I I can quit my job.
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It's not let's talk about it.
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Let's talk about it.
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And that's the type of person you gotta have.
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A person that's just like they see the vision.
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They're like, Hey, cool too.
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Yeah because the the it's a certain amount of trust and a certain amount of action.
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A lot of boy.
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Yeah, you got boy.
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Man, he's so good at editing stuff before I even get it.
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It's not gonna be editing.
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He's so good at editing.
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I've I I used to go, uh, hey, make sure you're like, come on, man.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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But that's that's my whole thing, because I, you know, I reached out to people online.
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Or even when it comes to like having an assistant, all those things are cool, but it is I know that lots of people willing to do it, but it's the trust thing.
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I mean, I mean, so you think about assistants, they gotta have your cards, your info.
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I don't need no woman tripping when I want to send flowers because she's looking at me and two of them sending all of that kind of stuff.
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Who do you think sending flowers too?
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My mother.
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With the Speedy, the Speedy Mormon.
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That's hilarious.
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Hey man, you want to kick it off or you Oh, bro, man.
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Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
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Hell! So listen, um Thank you for uh tuning in to Killing It, man.
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Uh I'm very, very excited.
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Uh we have a nut we got a we I'm one of your hosts.
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My name is B.T.
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Kingsley.
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It's London, bro.
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Justin Hyes.
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And you know, when you the show, the concept, the the the whole idea of the show is very specific.
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Are you killing it?
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Either you are killing it right now, you were killing it, or you're clearly about to be killing it.
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That's always been the idea of the goal.
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Some of the comics that want to do the show, we love you, bro.
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Just give us a second or or make us force our hand.
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Sometimes they force your hand.
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We had a couple forces recently.
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It was a it was a couple, I mean, it happened this fast.
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It'd be like, you you'd be like, man, they don't have me on the pad.
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Next day we'd be like, hey, man, can you please do the pod?
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We will switch it up, bro.
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I promise you, right?
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We coming.
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We will call you.
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This situation basically the show is called Killing It's Not Doing Sh is everybody's doing it.
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And it's not killing it on stage.
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This ain't about you not being funny.
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I swear to God, it's not.
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We know the hilarious that is not doing this.
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If your credit is being on killing it, then you can't be on killing it.
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Okay.
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So the dude that that we have today is a pioneer of our generation.
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He is one of the best in the business by far.
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Argue with your mama.
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You hey, you heard what they said on that show.
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You heard the list, baby.
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Um, so many credits.
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Uh hey, we gotta.
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I'm about to get we gotta start doing better.
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I got I got the credits.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, go host.
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I gotta do you right.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I wish we had the gunshots.
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I wish we had the gunshots.
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Put them in the edit.
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We gotta have the gunshots in the post.
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Host of black comedy in America.
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Your enthusiasm, insecure, all deaf comedy.
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On YouTube right now.
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Underrated four million views.
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Can we say what you about to be on?
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Yeah.
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The upcoming season of Comic View.
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I'm a man of woman and only.
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What else?
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Anything else?
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Producer of Comic View.
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What is happening, bro?
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How you how you doing?
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How you feeling, man?
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I'm feeling good, man.
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Surprisingly.
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Surprisingly.
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It's a little early for me, but yeah, yeah.
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You had something you was uh you was you was talking about before we got on, but uh when me and Linda were sitting here.
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I'ma tell you, man, it's a lot of people uh don't understand how important this show is.
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When I was going through what I was going through to get my special off the ground, and then it and then I put it out myself and and uh was trying to get the word out about it.
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Which looks great.
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It looked great, bro.
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It was great.
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You was the first one of the first people to say something about it.
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I was just, I was just, it got sent to me.
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It was on y'all's pod.
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They were like, y'all were like, yo, I like what uh Ryan is doing.
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And y'all shouted it out.
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I was like, oh, I like these, man.
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I like because man, it it don't cost nothing to show love.
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And man, we didn't, none of us had had a conversation about it or anything.
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And it was just like, I don't know, man.
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It just it really meant a lot to me.
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And I was like, man, I can't wait to get in a room with y'all to tell y'all, man.
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Because that was before it was on YouTube, anything.
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That was when I would just released it on Patreon.
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Yeah.
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And y'all, y'all was that was a year ago.
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Yeah, man.
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Well, you you always been a solid dude, bro, at least with me.
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Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
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And so I I'm the same way, it don't take nothing to share somebody, highlight somebody.
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When people don't like uh praise, like uh salute somebody, congratulate somebody, it really speaks more about their own insecurities.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, you know, their own insecurities and envy and stuff like that, but you know what I'm saying?
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You just you're a funny dude, bruh, and you you get in that the mud and it just is what it is.
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Yeah, and and they don't know what it takes, too.
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It's like to do it the way that you're doing it is also very different.
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And on top of that, as we build in this thing, as it's content creator, uh individual, it's the system and the industry and pulling away and so on and so forth, the other thing that has to be built out is uh the media aspect of it.
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So it's like you create something and in LA, it was just like this huge gap.
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It was like, wait a minute.
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So if you live here and you produce something, you gotta go do 85 South or Joe Buddh or the Breakfast Club or Hot Night South.
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You gotta go all the way to the East Coast.
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What do you do over here?
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And it was it was nothing.
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And it was like, nigga, nothing.
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No, no, no.
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We we we we we we have we want a non-salacious place where you can come and talk to space because it's too much information that needs to be shared.
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Uh Justin, I know you got a bunch of I mean humor in heart is what this podcast is.
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Giggle, you know, you know, and also to what you know, to what Justin was saying, it's just like it takes nothing to really show to show that kind of love and acknowledgement.
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You know, and uh that's why when I saw your vulnerability was showing love to Ron T.
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Yeah.
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Bro, I was like, you know, I can I can see because you know, you know, Cats.
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Ron Taylor Ron Taylor, you know, uh shout out to Ron Taylor, man, who just won um Funny AF.
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Funny AF, man, and and doing his thing.
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And so, um but what was dope about that was when you part of what this what we're doing here on this podcast, and you'll you'll you'll recognize as we get towards the when we get towards the end of the interview here or the podcast is just that being able to project where where you see yourself and be t go into go into those details later.
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But the fact that y'all was in that car, what's going on, how do you see it?
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What's going on?
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And and going back and just the vision of that and walking and having that conversation early on, and then to see you show and give those flowers to to Ron Taylor like that was just dope, man, because a lot of cats be feeling, you know, it's a it's a dangerous thing because especially if you if you you rock with somebody early on and then you start looking at them, you be like, oh, they they they they they passing me.
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Yeah, you get all get weird.
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It gets funny.
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It gets funny, bro.
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And Ron never got weird with me, man.
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Right.
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People do.
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People do people do, people do.
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They're like, man, I want to see you make it.
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Then they go, hey man, you making it too much to help for what for what I for where I am right now.
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I'm not comfortable with what I'm seeing.
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I'm like, I'm not doing anything.
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And watching my brothers like just move, and I'm like, who are you referencing?
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Uh Nate Jackson, Matt Reif is like, these are my dogs.
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Like, I've known Matt since he was 15, bro.
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Like, when we used to go to the club, he was just a pimpley young kid, like, man, I love to get up.
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And DC Curry, my mentor, was like, yeah, let him get some time.
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Like, like, I I know him from way back then.
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We sh sharing the uh Wow, I didn't know that.
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What's the uh, you know, uh some clubs they give you a hotel, but some clubs got their own little condo selling, sharing the comedy condo.
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It was like it was like to see it happen that close, you have to be comfortable within your own skin.
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And so does someone and to to be able to show the love.
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Uh, we got a lot of shit to get together.
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Yeah, about to say, let's get into some questions.
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We're done sucking your shit.
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Oh, man.
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Let's get into some real shit.
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Let's get into some real shit.
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I've had enough of this.
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All right.
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Okay, right.
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When we talk about the special, bro.
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Um I want I know you discussed it on other platforms, but I want you to talk about why you decided to put it on YouTube, why Ali Sadiq, Ali Sadiq, you know, like what went behind that decision making.
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Okay, cool.
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And this is why I'm glad I'm talking to my peers, because you guys get this.
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All right.
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So me and Ali both shot independent around the same time.
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My special is actually filmed the same, around the same time.
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He filmed Domino Effect.
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Oh, shit, the first one.
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Yeah.
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In the in the uh special, I was like, my five-year-old son, that nigga turned nine Sunday.
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Do you understand what I'm saying?
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That's how old the special is.
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Man, and we just like I I got a like, me and Ali got a similar story as far as shopping it and stuff like that, and how they was treating us or whatever.
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Ali is just different than me.
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I'm more of a, I'm more of a whiner than Ali is.
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Ali is like, Ali is more like, fuck you then.
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I'll show you.
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Right.
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I mean, I was like, why this man did everything?
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I was supposed to do that.
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I did this and I did the whole time.
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I'm just whining.
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Ali done dropped three specials and it's going, it's going crazy in theaters now.
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He's like, waiting on your special, man.
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What's going on?
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Because he was supportive the whole time.
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He was like, man, just, you know.
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Right.
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And uh, you know, and then I start telling my story, and then I put it on Patreon and all of that.
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And he was like, when you putting it on YouTube?
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And I was like, man, to be honest with you, I couldn't even get in my YouTube account.
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It's over a quarter million followers.
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Wow.
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Subscribers, I couldn't even get into the account.
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And I was like, I'm gonna have to build something to uh monetize it so I can drop it there.
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He was like, and I Ali, me and Ali talk about working together a lot before, and he was like, I think sometimes uh because of the nature of what we do, you don't wanna uh offend somebody, you know, by offering to put it on your platform.
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And I think maybe that was what it was.
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It was like, you know, how would you feel about putting it on my platform?
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Some people might be like that was his suggestion, too.
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Yeah, and and some people might be like, What do you mean put it on yours?
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It'll do just fine.
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I was like, nah, absolutely.
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Ali don't do skits.
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He doesn't.
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Ali don't do nothing.
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Everybody on that page loves stand-up comedy.
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Loves stand-up comedy.
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Almost stand-up specials.
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And stand-up specials only.
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So I was like, that's the best possible place to put this.
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And he's not gonna offer it to everybody.
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No, he don't.
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Hey, everybody, everybody thinks that you could just call Ali and get a special on there.
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I I I have not talked to him about this, and I'm telling you, you can't.
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He's gonna have to be good.
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Quality's gonna have to be good, and you're gonna have to be great.
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Yeah, I'm one of the only ones.
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Me and Sidney Castillo are like one of the only ones.
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Uh Malik S2, but one of the only ones that you can got it on his platform without him shooting it himself, because he he is very particular.
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He won't put it on there if it don't look right.
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He won't put it on there if you don't have a good set.
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And some people will be like, man, I was I was doing my thing.
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I was killing.
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That's not what a special is.
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Special gotta have a through line.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean?
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This is I think a lot of people don't understand that.
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Like, I get on stage and I'm gonna just do material and then no, that's not how that works.
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Right.
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And you one of the you one of the best we got at it.
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Like, yeah, once BT start talking about something, I know it's not the end.
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I be waiting.
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I'll be like, nah, it's coming back.
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Yeah, it's coming back.
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You'll, man, you'll go through the whole, everything of what you're talking about.
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You know what I mean?
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What do you what do you think for those who are considering to uh to put out a special, can you break down that idea of the through line for as far as the special goes?
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So what is it that you're trying?
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I'll just use uh domino effect, the his original, Ali's original.
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That man told a story from when he was a kid all the way up to when he was in prison and the things he believed led to him going that way.
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You're right.
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That's literally the through line.
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He was like, this is how I got from here to there.
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And and in my special, it's this is this is how I see the world.
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This is this is what makes me this way.
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You're the building blocks.
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It's the building blocks.
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It's me, this is who my parents are, and then this is how I ended up being, and then becoming a parent, and because of that, this is how I see relationships.
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Right.
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And then that's the through line.
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And your special needs to really feel like one continuous conversation.
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If it doesn't feel like one continuous conversation, that's fine.
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It's just not gonna be considered special.
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So, so just so it I I it was like uh Dave Chappelle's um what was the one he did?
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Uh Unstoppable?
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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The older one or a newer one?
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It was, man, he did so many.
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It was when he first came back.
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It was one of the he did two when he first came back.
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Oh, Jay Simpson was.
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And then and then he did one right after that.
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Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
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So they got Bird Revelation, you got a right before Bird Revelation.
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Sticks and Stones.
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Classic.
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Sticks and Stones.
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When you see Sticks and Stones, yeah, that special, everything on that special was for that set.
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Yep.
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It was, it was, it was one performance.
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He even started it singing Prince 1999.
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It was so everything was on purpose.
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Yes.
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And that's what you have to do.
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Some people will go, I'm gonna take my best jokes and put don't worry about that.
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Make it one performance.
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Right.
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Make everything make sense for one performance.
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Because I realized that the best thing you can do, especially now, is keep people invested in what it is.
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And whenever you clip it, you can always get people to be like, oh, if you do a joke, if you clip the whole joke and put it out there, they feel like they saw the whole thing.
00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:54.400
But if I clip it and you can tell that there's more to it, they go, where do I go get the rest of this?
00:18:55.599 --> 00:18:57.759
Everybody, stop what you're doing right now.
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Make sure you subscribe to Killin' It Pie.
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Boom.
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And that's and I think that's the beauty of it.
00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:12.480
And then Ollie showed that you clip it, you can drop the whole special, but in part one, part two, part three, part four.
00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:16.799
And then people, when they see that, they go look for the other parts or they go look for the other thing.
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How you release your special matters.
00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:23.920
He showed me how to market it.
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When you set up your your press run, you get people talking about it all the time.
00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:35.920
And and luckily for me, the selling point, all I sold it on was, hey man, this is really good.
00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:37.039
You should look at this.
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Right.
00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:40.400
That was all my they were like, yeah, what else around?
00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:41.359
It's really good.
00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:41.759
Right.
00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:42.640
It's really good.
00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:43.599
It's really good.
00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:46.079
That's all I that's all I kept saying.
00:19:46.559 --> 00:19:50.960
And people would go, and I didn't realize how many people go, why he keep saying that?
00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:53.039
Why he think he really, I just go go watch it.
00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:55.920
And then if it's good, go see why it's not really good.
00:19:56.720 --> 00:19:58.240
They're like, I don't think it's that good.
00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:02.160
You you should watch it and see if it's really, because it's gonna get views regardless.
00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:04.480
And and this is the thing, man.
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I think um I I've been telling people for a while, I ain't think they were listening to me, but it don't matter because it's here now.
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I see it's here now.
00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:16.160
I said, the pendulum is swinging back.
00:20:16.319 --> 00:20:16.960
Yes, it is.
00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:19.920
If you know how to do stand-up, don't you worry.
00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:21.039
Just give it a second.
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Your time is coming.
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Your time is coming.
00:20:24.079 --> 00:20:26.960
And you'd be like, man, I don't know how to do all the other stuff.
00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:30.000
Well, you might not have to anymore because it's swinging back.
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Everybody's tired.
00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:35.839
Everybody's tired of going to see somebody just to be in the building.
00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:36.240
Yep.
00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:38.799
People are going, man, now I like stand-up.
00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:40.799
Where are the stand-up comics at?
00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:47.599
Tony Roberts sat right in that seat uh yesterday and said, There's fans and there's followers.
00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:53.200
He said, followers want to be here because you're here and they just want to see you live.
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Fans are people that want to see the art form that you create and watch you differently.
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And it's different.
00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:01.200
It's way different.
00:21:01.519 --> 00:21:10.720
And and and and the comedy clubs kind of bit themselves in the ass because they were so busy trying to fill the room, they st they lost quality control a little bit.
00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:15.200
So now, so so so so sometimes the audience is a little caught off guard.
00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:18.960
So I told somebody the other day, it's like we we always had this conversation.
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Comedy will hill itself.
00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:24.000
You was worried about the social media people, you worried about the crowd work, the story.
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Listen, listen, everybody relax.
00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:27.680
The reason, let me tell it.
00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:35.359
The reason that crowd work is so popular, storyteller with Ali is so popular, so on and so forth, is because we're back at the beginning of stand-up.
00:21:35.759 --> 00:21:42.160
Where a person sat down, watched a social media comedy, you're making me laugh on my phone, went and and saw them, and then they weren't good.
00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:49.839
So then when somebody's doing crowd work, they went and they watched you was like, Well, he has to be funny because he's on stage doing it and he's doing it in real time.
00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:51.039
He has to be good.
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And they showed up, and the people that were doing the exact same.
00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:54.960
Yep, and they were good.
00:21:55.599 --> 00:21:58.960
And then you realize It was Nate Jackson and Matt Rabi's like, oh shit, he's good.
00:21:59.119 --> 00:21:59.440
Yeah.
00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:07.200
And I promise you, anything you laugh at stand-up wise on your phone, you would have laughed twice as hard if you were there.
00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:08.000
Twice as hard.
00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:10.480
You would have laughed twice as hard if you were there.
00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:10.880
Yeah.
00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:13.279
Here's my other question when it comes to your special.
00:22:13.359 --> 00:22:18.000
So you put the you put this one on YouTube and it's done crazy numbers.
00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:24.160
The next one you do, are you thinking to drop it on YouTube again or are you gonna shop it around again?
00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:25.759
Oh, it's on YouTube forever.
00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:26.240
It's over.
00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:26.640
Yeah.
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That's the streaming service as far as I'm concerned.
00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:31.279
They number one.
00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:31.599
Yeah.
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So they are number one.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Everybody, because look, I took it to everybody.
00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:40.480
And you told me the way I feel is is very simple for me.
00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:43.599
Uh I am an artist.
00:22:43.839 --> 00:22:47.119
I have no desire to be a star.
00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:48.799
Uh I never did.
00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:54.319
That's why I could be on a show called Killin' It, and somebody would be like, Really?
00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:55.519
He been doing whatever?
00:22:55.680 --> 00:23:04.319
Because I think I look so much like I like I'm never doing anything that people don't realize how much I fucking do.
00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:04.960
Right, right.
00:23:05.119 --> 00:23:10.880
Yeah, and uh because I don't want, I never, I'm not even a person who likes attention.
00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:14.799
I think I can look like an attention whore on uh line.
00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:18.720
And this I'm by myself when y'all see all this stuff.
00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:21.440
Like I'm posting because that's the nature of the beast.
00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:21.680
Right.
00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:22.480
You know what I mean?
00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:26.880
This is just the because I realize people will do the out of uh sight, out of mind.
00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:33.359
This isn't, we don't live in the same times where you disappear and then it builds anticipation.
00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:33.839
Right.
00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:36.960
That used to be the time, they're like, man, I ain't seen him in four years.
00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:38.319
I wonder what he's gonna do.
00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:39.920
They're like, I ain't seen him in four years.
00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:41.920
I forgot that nigga was alive.
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Because it's just it's just different.
00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:50.240
I be trying to tell my homeboys that the absence does not make the heart grow fonder.
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Not no more.
00:23:52.720 --> 00:24:02.079
See, you're also you also have a very unique perspective about this thing because I always, so I'll say this over and over again, we're very early on in the internet because I remember before it existed.
00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:05.519
So it's like right now we're building the building box.
00:24:05.680 --> 00:24:10.240
You have something very specific that I, and you are welcome to correct me if I am wrong.
00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:19.279
To my understanding, if you're not the first, you are for sure the person that popularizes the side by side.
00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:28.880
The you subject matter happening, having the conversation about this thing that is happening in a fully flushed out, hilarious way.
00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:31.119
As far as I'm concerned, you are the first.
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And if you are not the first, you clearly are the pendulum that makes it go.
00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:37.680
I was first.
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You got that money, but I was first.
00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:45.759
I never said it.
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I never said it, I was just like, yeah, man.
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I I saw it, I saw the style take over the internet.
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I was like, man, that's great.
00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:57.279
Ain't none of you niggas gonna say acknowledging it.
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I'm watching niggas do interviews when I came up with it.
00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:01.039
Really?
00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:05.759
So this is how, this is how And you're first first.
00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:07.119
You're you're pre the platforms.
00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:10.880
You're pre Instagram encouraging it, TikTok existing.
00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:13.440
Yeah, Instagram was 15 seconds.
00:25:13.680 --> 00:25:16.799
So they you you couldn't even anybody saying, oh no, I was on Instagram.
00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:18.400
Instagram wouldn't even let you do it.
00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:19.279
So you're lying.
00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:19.519
Right.
00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:21.200
Uh I went to Facebook.
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First.
00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:22.400
Yeah.
00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:28.000
Man, I'm talking about Vine was hot, Instagram was hot, people were talking about photos and stuff.
00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:29.200
Well, I'm long-winded.
00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:32.559
Who was letting you do long form videos?
00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:34.880
Because I had to do flushed out thoughts.
00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:41.200
So it was Facebook, and it was really only me and Country Wayne on Facebook really doing our thing over there.
00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:43.279
At that time, how many followers did you have?
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:45.680
Man, I gained a million followers in one year.
00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:49.839
Uh it was uh so this was crazy.
00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:50.640
This was crazy.
00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:51.759
So you're killing it.
00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:58.960
So it was uh it was 2016.
00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:02.640
Uh I made my I went viral for the first time.
00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:03.839
It was January 10th.
00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:05.680
It was about Odell Beckham Jr.
00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:06.400
Yeah.
00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:10.240
Man, this is this is how crazy 2016 is versus Dow.
00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:13.039
We were like 10 years ago, technology wasn't that different.
00:26:13.359 --> 00:26:20.799
Man, my phone was going off from the that was back in Facebook, where if somebody commented, it came to your phone like a text message.
00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:21.599
Somebody liked it.
00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:21.759
Yeah.
00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:23.680
You got the notification for everything.
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:27.279
Because virality wasn't a thing like that.
00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:27.440
Right.
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:31.519
So they didn't have to worry about how much, you know, it came to your phone.
00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:36.720
Bro, my battery in my phone got so hot it started burning me.
00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:39.920
And I had to take, that's what going viral was back then.
00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:41.279
You had to take a battery out of the phone.
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:44.319
It was back in the day when you could take a battery out of phone.
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:44.880
Yes.
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:46.240
You had that.
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:47.119
That's what I'm telling you.
00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:49.039
That's how long ago it was.
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:53.039
And I lost my, like when I went viral, I was like, what does this mean?
00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:53.359
Right.
00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:54.960
I don't know what this means.
00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:56.799
Does this mean I made it?
00:26:57.039 --> 00:26:57.759
What does this mean?
00:26:57.920 --> 00:27:02.960
And then I and I and I uh the next day I got back online and everybody went about their business.
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:04.480
I was like, no, I did not.
00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:05.759
I did not become famous.
00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:06.160
Yes.
00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:11.119
But I it was it was weird because I felt a pressure I never felt before.
00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:15.920
Because I'm like, there, I went, I gained 10,000 followers in a day.
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:21.599
And I'm talking about 10, nobody was having 10,000 followers back then.
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:22.000
Right.
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:23.279
Like, that just wasn't a thing.
00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:24.880
He just taught the kick around about this.
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:26.079
He's he's the same exact thing.
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:27.279
He was like, that wasn't like a thing.
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:32.720
When people go, oh, 10,000 and no, Nick, nobody had 10,000.
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:33.759
He was like, what?
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:36.720
And I thought about something Patrice O'Neill said.
00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:39.279
Everything with me always goes back to stand-up.
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:44.720
Everybody I listen to, everybody I think about quotes I remember are always stand-up comics.
00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:46.079
I'm a stand-up before everything.
00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:46.319
Right.
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:50.960
And Patrice O'Neal said, if you can get 100,000 fans, you'll work for the rest of your life.
00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:52.079
100,000 fans.
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:53.759
100,000 fans, you'll work.
00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:56.000
There's no one can stop you from eating.
00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:56.160
Right.
00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:00.960
I'm talking about, and he said, eating good, if you can get 100,000 people to want to shop with you.
00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:01.200
Right.
00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:03.519
I just need 99,000 and 99.
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:07.119
And I'm on my way.
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:12.880
And um so I was like, all right, that's the goal.
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:14.079
I gotta get a hundred.
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:20.960
Because at the time I didn't know that it didn't, like you can get the 100,000, and that really be like 8,000.
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:21.359
Right.
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:24.720
I didn't have that understanding yet, so I was just like, let's get the 100,000.
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:25.839
What you mean by that?
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:34.480
Uh if you go, you see somebody with two million followers, that might be eight people that actually will go pay to go see them or anything.
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:40.799
You can get, you can get one good year of you the brand new shiny thing.
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:41.440
Right.
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:49.279
After that, because we could to get repeat customers, you gotta prove that you're worth coming back again.
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:49.680
Yeah.
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:52.400
That's why we see people, we be like, man, that dude blew up.
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:53.519
Whatever happened to that dude.
00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:54.960
Yeah, they didn't have anything.
00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:56.079
They didn't have anything.
00:28:56.240 --> 00:29:00.799
When it was time to, you know, present something to the people, they didn't have nothing to present to the people.
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:06.079
And um and uh so I was like, yo, the goal is a hundred thousand.
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:10.720
And I remember I hit thirty thousand uh after the next video.
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:12.400
And then I I started crying.
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:13.759
I was like, oh, it's over.
00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:15.119
Because I know me.
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.720
I am I get tunnel vision, right?
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.480
Once I set a goal, I just run through the wall with it.
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:27.440
So by the time the summer came around, I had a quarter million.
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:32.400
And then I was like, I need to see if this is real.
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:39.920
So I rented a car and drove to Houston, rented a comedy club, drove 16 hours to Houston to do a show.
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:42.559
I ain't even have uh money for a hotel.
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:44.720
If the show didn't sell, I live in Houston now.
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:46.880
So that's hilarious.
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:53.039
So yeah, so because at the end of the day, I'm a comic.
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:54.559
This is just this is how it is.
00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:58.960
If you we you get up where you can get up, you take your shot where you take your shot.
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:01.839
Man, it sold out in three days.
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.960
I got there and I and I got there a day early.
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:07.119
That's still my uh thing.
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:08.720
I do it all the time still.
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:10.240
I got there a day early.
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:13.200
The club owner pulled me to the side and said, Who are you?
00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:16.480
I was like, Oh, I was just doing wanted to rent your club out or whatever.
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:19.839
He was like, Nah, people are calling to say, Is he really coming?
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:22.480
Why wouldn't they believe that you coming here?
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:22.799
Right.
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:24.640
I was like, oh, this shit is a real thing.
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:27.039
Okay, so you had a shirt on saying who is Ryan Davis?
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:28.000
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:37.119
But I tell you, so we talking about at June, I was at a quarter million, and by December, I was at a full million.
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:40.160
So that can about tell you how much I ramped up.
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:46.799
Sheesh the uh like once I got back and realized this is a real thing, it's over, nigga.
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:49.680
Like I was glued to my phone, bro.
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:50.480
I was and it was.
00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:55.440
How many pieces of content were you posting a day to get to that million?
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:56.960
It was it was every day.
00:30:57.119 --> 00:30:59.839
And you and we talking about one piece or like three or four.
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.240
No, it was like one piece, but this is the thing.
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.799
It's one piece while nobody's doing anything.
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:05.200
Right.
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:07.279
So you see what I'm saying?
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:12.240
And uh so we talking about, and I'm and this is this was my process.
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:18.000
Like I would wake up in the morning, and man, God, I'm glad y'all are here.
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:19.839
That's what we embody, baby.
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:20.960
We killed it, baby.
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:23.440
Because people just don't know what it takes.
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:26.640
Like, like now, people will be like, you gotta post postable content.
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:29.839
This is what I this is we talking about 2016.
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:37.680
I was like, okay, I see that I I do these, I do these posts, but I I was like, how do you retain these people?
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:40.079
Because everybody doesn't hit follow.
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:42.319
They'll like, they'll comment, everything.
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:45.759
I created eight personal Facebook pages.
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:48.079
You cannot do it now because they think you a bot.
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:56.480
But I but I created eight personal pages, and I went requesting everybody as a friend who commented and said they liked the video.
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:57.599
And they'd be like, Who are you?
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:00.000
I was like, I'm the dude with the video, this video.
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:05.759
Uh, if you I make content like this, if you want to keep seeing it, uh uh just friend me.
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:09.920
Because then I would post it and then I would share it on all eight pages.
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:15.599
And all eight pages I would make to where I live somewhere else in the United States.
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:21.200
So it'll uh and then whenever I would do that, I would do that every single day.
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:29.359
And then the and whenever you would get on Facebook in the morning, you hit the search bar, it'll tell you the top ten things most talked about on Facebook today.
00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:31.519
And that's what I base my content off of.
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:32.880
You don't do that anymore, do it?
00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:33.839
No, it don't do nothing.
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:36.240
You can't do no more.
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:40.880
So I feel, and they would let you have like this nigger's getting too successful.
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:44.400
I swear that's what they do.
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:45.680
It's writing book.
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:51.759
So in eight pages, they let you have 5,000 friends per page.
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:54.480
So that's 40,000 people you can touch.
00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:54.880
Right.
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:58.319
And some people be like, man, you can't just touch 40,000 people.
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:00.480
You don't know who you're talking to, nigga.
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:04.559
I will message 40,000 people in one day if I had to.
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:05.839
I was a machine.
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:11.440
Like you wouldn't, so once I realized I was going to be like this the whole gap the whole day.
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:14.240
People be like, man, Ryan kind of hunchback.
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:15.359
2016.
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:21.599
So a great comedian is self-aware like a motherfucker.
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:23.200
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:27.519
So whenever, so then I wanted to start my own tour.
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.720
So I still didn't have no manager, no agent, no nothing.
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:34.559
I'm just sitting in Concord, North Carolina in my mama's house, right?
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:35.519
Well, I got kicked out.
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:36.720
So I'm in Charlotte now.
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:51.279
Uh I'm in Charlotte, and like if I was doing a show, I'd post it on the main page, and then I would go to each individual personal page, and Facebook lets you do this, used to let you do this.
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:54.160
Friends who live in such and such.
00:33:54.400 --> 00:34:02.400
So, and you just put the city and they would show you everybody who you were friends with that was there, and I would personally message every single person.
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:06.079
Hey, I'm coming to your city and I'm going to do a show or whatever.
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:10.400
And if they were like, Oh man, I can't really afford to come, free tickets.
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:11.440
Boom.
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:15.920
I just needed to get you in the room to see that this is what I actually do.
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:16.320
Right.
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:16.559
Right.
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:18.559
So stand-up, that's all I was doing.
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:20.800
I was using that to sell the stand-up.
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:23.679
And then it worked out.
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:26.239
I got a million followers in a year.
00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:28.559
Drew Tillman found me.
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:33.519
You know, uh, it was a couple people trying to manage me, but uh Drew.
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:36.400
I've been with Drew the whole decade.
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:36.960
Wow.
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:38.239
Shout out to Drew, bro.
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:40.159
Yeah, been with Drew the whole decade.
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:44.960
And then uh, so this was the craziest part because I'm really good manager.
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:46.079
Hey, Drew, a good manager.
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:46.880
He's a great man.
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:48.960
That's how your ass a producer on Comic View.
00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:59.280
You can have Ryan Davis, but he's gonna be a producer.
00:34:59.519 --> 00:34:59.760
Yeah.
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:01.440
Yeah, yeah.
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:02.880
So I I dig it.
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:03.280
Keep going.
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:06.320
But I but I had learned something.
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:11.199
I'm the one thing about me is it's just, I don't know what it is.
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:19.760
It's like uh, it's like fucking uh Final Destination, where you all you there's always the premonition before something happened.
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:24.400
I knew it was gonna swing to the internet, and I knew it was gonna swing back to stand.
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:27.440
I always see what's coming before it comes.
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:36.000
And the one thing I saw coming was the people who follow you aren't fans of stand-up.
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:41.519
And so I had to re like people don't even know this is the second swing.
00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:47.760
I had to make people think I fell off so I could build the stand-up audience.
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:51.679
Yeah, like I stopped posting.
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:54.000
People was thinking, oh, he falling off.
00:35:54.159 --> 00:36:05.280
I was like, no, I need the people who who just because you can get into the point where you posting all the time and you just feeding people who are never gonna show up.
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:06.159
Nigga, bruh.
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:11.920
What I just said that what I just told him because of these conversations, I'm gonna let you finish your point.
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:16.159
Because of these conversations, I said, bruh, I'm gonna stop posting these fucking reaction videos.
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:24.159
I said, I'm finna start just focusing on posting my stand-up, I said the podcast and stand-up clips because I'm trying to get people to buy tickets to these shows.
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:28.719
And all that reaction shit is cool to build your get your face out there.
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:32.559
And it helps getting some money on Facebook, the$12 that they pay niggas now.
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:33.519
Yeah, yeah.
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:34.719
They done played nigga.
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:36.239
But that's a whole nother story.
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:44.800
But I realize the type of content you posting is gonna dictate the type of audience that's gonna come out to see you or not come see you.
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:56.400
I mean, speaking on coca, I remember having a conversation with you, and you specifically told me I was because this is when I knew people were getting real because here's the thing.
00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:58.400
There's real money in LA.
00:36:58.719 --> 00:36:59.519
There's real money.
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:01.039
There's real money.
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:03.679
And at some point in time, I remember standing in the comedy union.
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:06.880
I looked across the room, I saw two niggas, they were doing that little quiet talking series.
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:08.480
I was like, them niggas getting some money.
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:09.360
What y'all doing?
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:12.559
I said, them nigga, them niggas over there getting some money.
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:14.639
I was like, hey man, what y'all talking about, man?
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:17.039
It just felt like good money talk.
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:19.679
Like, not not not it wasn't a thousand dollar talk.
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:21.760
This was this was six-digit talk.
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:25.199
I was like, and I realized I was like, okay, I gotta figure out how to get money in the city.
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:26.880
And then niggas tried getting money on social media.
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:33.679
And I had a conversation with you because I knew how hot you were on social media, and you was like, I try, I'm trying to steer away from that money.
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:40.480
Because if I get it, uh, I'ma I'ma I'm a like I'ma kind of just start chilling, and I gotta focus on stand-up.
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:49.440
People, that's what and I feel so bad for my manager at times, my agents at times, because I'm not moved by money.
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:51.360
Yeah, I'm moved by legacy.
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:57.679
So there was so much money to get on social media when it was at its peak, and I ain't even monetize my page.
00:37:57.840 --> 00:37:58.239
I know.
00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:00.960
And people are like, you crazy, you crazy.
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:04.960
And then when they start playing with everybody's money, everybody was like, I don't know what I'm gonna do.
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:07.840
I got a mortgage that I can't keep up with, or whatever.
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:09.519
I was like, man, that's crazy.
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:17.679
It's almost like I told you that if you depend on them to feed you, they can starve you.
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:18.159
Right.
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:22.159
You can't give nobody that type of leverage over you ever.
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.679
I was like, man, that social media money is just sub is mailbox money.
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:27.199
Supplemental money.
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:31.199
I get the uh I get the email, I'm like, oh, that's great.
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:32.719
And that's all it is to it.
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:34.400
I I never depend on it.
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:36.239
I never will depend on it.
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:40.639
Man, uh, oh man, I don't I I gotta tell this story, bro.
00:38:41.119 --> 00:38:47.199
And if you do, like I'm just saying to him, if he if he get mad, it's whatever, but my homeboy Damon Darling, right?
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:50.239
Okay, kicked it in the high gear one month.
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:54.320
Facebook meta shitted him out of a hundred grand.
00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:01.679
Where I'm from, that is a different Mark Zuckerberg gotta see me.
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:03.440
You see what I'm saying?
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:07.599
Yeah, he gotta see a hundred grand, bro.
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:12.000
Yeah, but yeah, like I know you're worth billions, and a hundred grand may not be nothing.
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:13.280
But see if you take it.
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:18.800
There's some people out here that'll knock you clean off of that wherever you at over a hundred, man.
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:19.599
That's a headshot.
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:21.119
That's a headshot, bro.
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:24.400
And I'm talking about we ain't even trying to be stealthy.
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:26.159
Nigga got the gun out.
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:28.239
Where is Mark Zuckerberg?
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:29.360
Full Luigi.
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:30.960
Yeah, yeah.
00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:31.760
That's real that.
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:32.239
Right.
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:35.760
So it's like, nah, I could I couldn't let nobody play with me like that.
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:45.599
But that I also realized, right, whenever you whenever you go into social media and you like, oh no, I gotta get this money, this good money over here.
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:47.280
When was the last time you wrote a joke?
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:49.039
When was the last time you went up?
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:56.079
You worried so much about this, yeah, like you'd see a person out, they ain't wrote a new joke in two years.
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:56.480
Yeah.
00:39:56.639 --> 00:39:57.679
You'd be like, why ain't you wrong?
00:39:57.920 --> 00:39:58.960
Why ain't no comic view?
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:00.320
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:01.760
Nobody called me.
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:04.639
Nobody called me for the comic view.
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:07.440
I was like, man, we thought about it, man.
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:08.639
We thought about it.
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:14.719
It was just, it was just, it was your joke about Beyonce being pregnant with blue ivy.
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.599
As if it was new that was really like you know what I mean.
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:25.519
Not a specific the fact that she in high school and you was like, yeah.
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:29.280
He was like, have you seen Beyonce's new baby, Blue Ivy?
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:30.239
I don't think you should do that.
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:37.360
But did I I feel like I stopped you when you was talking about content and the type of content to get people to come to shows?
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:38.239
Yes.
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:46.400
I was like, and and shout out to Andrew Scholes, because that's who he pulled up on him, and that's the thing.
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:48.719
Man, if you know me, I'll pull up on you.
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:51.280
I done seen him with DC Curry, I done seen you.
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:55.599
If you come anywhere near me, I'ma see you.
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:55.920
Right.
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:56.880
You know what I mean?
00:40:56.960 --> 00:41:01.440
I respect my peers, and I love seeing my peers do what it is that we do.
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:03.760
And y'all niggas do it at a high level.
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:06.400
I go see you niggas anytime.
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:12.800
Uh, my first time uh being here in LA, the person I saw at the union was this nigga.
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:15.519
And he killed that night.
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:18.880
And I was like, I gotta know who this nigga is.
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:21.760
Because he the only he was the only one on the show I didn't know.
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:25.119
They had niggas who was on Comic View back in the day and whatever.
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:27.360
And then I was like, and he was young.
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:30.400
I was like, I think he was the youngest on the show.
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:32.719
I was like, he embarrassing you niggas.
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:35.599
I was like, yo, that was 2014.
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:37.440
He embarrassed me one night.
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:38.639
That nigga featured for me.
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:39.199
Yeah.
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:42.320
I went to the bathroom and I was like, that nigga a tough.
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:46.480
We bring the funny part.
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:49.760
I was, and the thing was They did it to me the other day, too.
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:51.840
I would I had never been in LA.
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:53.599
I didn't know how many comics were here.
00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:54.000
Right.
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:56.159
I know it almost anywhere in the country.
00:41:56.239 --> 00:41:57.199
I'd be like, I'm a comic.
00:41:57.280 --> 00:41:58.000
Can I get some time?
00:41:58.159 --> 00:41:58.800
They'll do it.
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:02.480
Man, I did that shit at the Union and it was like, who was this nigga?
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:04.880
I didn't know that it was like that out here.
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:06.320
They're like, we'll let you in.
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:09.920
You might still gotta pay the two drink minimum because nigga, we ain't we don't know you.
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:15.119
And then I was like, man, I was seeing niggas, I was like, man, if I got up, nigga, I would have showed these niggas.
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:16.960
And I saw BT, I was like, you know what?
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:18.000
Everybody ain't meant to be.
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:19.920
Everybody ain't meant.
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:23.760
Because at that time I was only doing stand-up for a year.
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:28.079
I was a good baby, but I ain't never seen nobody polished like that.
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.079
I ain't seen nobody good like that.
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:35.360
It's funny because you you've told me, you told me that before.
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:43.119
But now when we're seeing, when we're watching the art and we're watching you, and you're you're in full rhyme.
00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:45.199
You're in full of your greatness, it's full.
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:46.559
You've the voice is there.
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:47.840
Yeah, I know it out.
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:49.440
Because here's the crazy part.
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:51.119
The voice was there beforehand.
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:55.840
When you were doing the commentary, these are fully flushed out ideas.
00:42:56.000 --> 00:43:04.719
Now, transitioning that into the stage, because you are one of the rarefied people that that have encompassed that seat, you a ticket mover.
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:05.119
Yeah.
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:10.000
You can have the numbers, yeah, you can have the credits, and ain't nobody coming.
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:13.920
For whatever reason, disrespect, you know.
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:16.000
But but you can be hilarious.
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:18.639
You are moving tickets.
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:24.079
So it allows for a certain amount of comfort, a certain amount of success.
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:30.239
Um tell me about how you maneuver through the business with that understanding.
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:35.119
It's like, listen, I I know there's things y'all want to say, but this this is happening.
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:42.400
I'm gonna tell you, man, this was such a crazy trip.
00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:46.079
Because it's not the way stand up is supposed to be done.
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:52.239
You're supposed to be mentored into you know your headlining.
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:52.719
Right.
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:56.639
Jumping in, I wanted I did this because I wanted to be a headliner.
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:59.760
I did all this work because I wanted to be I never.
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:02.480
I wouldn't take hosting gigs.
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:04.800
I wouldn't take any because I was like, I don't want to learn that.
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:09.599
I always knew I wanted to be a headliner, and so I kept that and not closing either.
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:11.760
Or I didn't want to work uh cruises.
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:18.480
I didn't work and I didn't want to knock I don't want to knock anybody who does that because those are some of the best comics in the world.
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:26.639
I didn't I wanted to always get in front of an audience and say what I wanted to say and not have no limitations, so that's why I don't take corporate gigs and stuff like that.
00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:28.159
And that's incredible money.
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:28.960
Very good money.
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:32.000
But yeah, it was just I never wanted money to control me.
00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:40.639
But the problem is, once I had got into that headlining position, you realize you don't know nothing about the game.
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:45.519
You ain't watched a pro and how they handle being a headliner.
00:44:45.679 --> 00:45:01.440
You don't see the process of getting to the club, how they handle staff, how they handle the people who are under them, how how uh professional they are with time, how, and I'm gonna tell you something that people have been headliners a long time know how to do.
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:02.400
Say no.
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:06.960
They know how to say no, and they don't care if you see them as an asshole.
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:07.119
Right.
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.159
Because they understand that everything falls back on them.
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:10.559
Yes.
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:12.400
I ain't get to see none of this.
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:14.159
I'm learning on the job.
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:16.239
And then I'm moving with fear.
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:21.280
My first two tours, I don't even think I changed a joke because I was so afraid.
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:23.199
What if they think I'm not funny?
00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:34.880
So that was the disconnect in my stand up from so you I would have my real point of view on social media, and then I'd go do a show and do jokes with no point of view.
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:38.639
Just because I was like, I gotta make them laugh, I gotta make them laugh.
00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:45.519
And then I was like, nigga, I done toured two straight years, and I ain't said nothing I wanna say.
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:47.440
This is not what you signed up for.
00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:52.960
What do you think helped you get through that fear to just speak your voice?
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:54.400
Austin Hall.
00:45:55.840 --> 00:46:01.119
I met a guy named Austin Hall, and he was the same kind of person as me.
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:05.679
He was like, I don't want to do, I wanna be able to say whatever I want to say.
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:10.000
I'm taking this nigga on tour, and I'm like, bubblegum, right?
00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:15.440
So hates when it's on your shoe.
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:16.880
So chewy.
00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:26.079
And he's like, and he's like, and he's getting on stage talking, like, you know, the difference between this and this psychologically is you gotta think about it.
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:26.960
People are doing this.
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:28.800
I was like, that's the shit I wanna do.
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:31.760
And you're doing it on the online already.
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:33.119
Yeah, and I'm doing it online.
00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:38.639
And I'm just sitting here, and then I'm watching the nigga was like, I'm gonna try this.
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:42.000
I was like, damn, you you ain't afraid to take an L on stage.
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:43.360
It was like, how do you get better?
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:45.039
I was like, I know, right?
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:50.480
And then I was like, you know, there's so many people here.
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:55.119
Well, if it don't go well and they never come back, you have to get rid of that fear.
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:56.559
You gotta get rid of that fear.
00:46:56.639 --> 00:46:59.599
A lot of people, a fan wants to see the journey.
00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:07.119
If they go, I went to see him, it was pretty funny, and I went to see him again, and he and he was funnier, they'll go, hey boy, getting better.
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:09.920
Yeah, hey, I see, I see what you asked.
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:16.239
It's real fans out there that want to see the journey, so keep working.
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:17.519
I had to learn that.
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:21.360
I you cannot operate in fear as an artist.
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:23.280
You cannot operate in fear.
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:24.239
Say it one more time.
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:27.519
You cannot operate in fear as an artist.
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:28.559
You cannot.
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:30.800
And I had to learn that in acting.
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:34.480
When I first started trying to act, I was like, what do they want?
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:35.440
What do they want?
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:37.840
You don't think, what do I bring?
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:38.719
Yeah.
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:39.920
What do I bring?
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:43.280
How do I feel like so many people are afraid?
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:45.199
You always want to do it right.
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:51.679
And a lot of times, man, as an artist, the right thing is who you bring to it.
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:53.840
Who are you and what do you bring to it?
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:58.880
Because once people see it, they'll go, I didn't even know it could be this.
00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:02.000
Imagine telling Eddie Murphy, no, no, no, don't do that.
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:03.199
This is the way I see it.
00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:03.519
Right.
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:04.880
We can't even imagine.
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:08.719
This nigga is sitting at a table as seven different people.
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:09.280
Yeah.
00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:10.960
Something wrong with that nigga.
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:13.280
And that and that's the thing with all of us.
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:15.360
That's something, that's with all of us.
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:25.280
Nobody can nobody can really steer our art like that because nobody lives up here other than us.
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:27.519
And you you gotta trust that.
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:29.360
You gotta trust that.
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:35.679
How long have you um how long have you felt you've had this perspective?
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:44.079
Like you, I mean, of course, obviously we as comics we have it have an angle, but how long do you feel that you've kind of looked at the world differently?
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:46.480
Oh, I knew when I was a kid, I was a weirdo.
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:52.719
Um so I can't stop trying to analyze stuff.
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:54.559
I literally just can't do it.
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:58.239
Because I'll see behavior and I'll be like, why is why are you doing that?
00:48:58.400 --> 00:48:58.559
Right.
00:48:58.800 --> 00:48:59.599
Why are they doing it?
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:00.480
I don't know why.
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:02.559
I just I just want to know.
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:05.360
Uh I'm the nosiest nigga on the planet.
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:07.760
I I think that's just what it is.
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:13.840
Like, like, man, I'll I'll not care about something.
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:14.239
Right.
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:17.519
But somebody will say it, and I was like, I just gotta know how it ends.
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:18.079
Right.
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:19.679
And I don't know what that is.
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:21.920
It's curiosity all the time.
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:26.719
And I end up going down these crazy rabbit holes and getting to the end.
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:34.719
And then that makes me understand people like Kanye West and other people when they say wild stuff, and people be like, oh my God, this is crazy.
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:36.960
I was like, no, I understand this rabbit hole.
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:39.119
Yeah, yeah, I see how they got there.
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:40.320
I would have never said that.
00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:43.519
But I do understand what you're supposed to stop.
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:47.440
You're supposed to learn when you're going, you went too far.
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:49.440
You've you've asked too many questions.
00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:52.239
It's like, yeah, this is normal conversation.
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:53.199
This is beautiful.
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:55.199
You can get people to understand this.
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:57.199
All right, nigga, keep this to yourself.
00:49:57.440 --> 00:49:57.920
Right, right.
00:49:58.880 --> 00:49:59.920
Keep all of this to yourself.
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:06.480
You know, I took that too, which is I'm into that same thing, which is not so much what people do, but why people do.
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:08.559
So, you know, because people say, what would you?
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:14.239
I said, Well, I guess if I went to a stand-up, somewhere in there, I'd be in the zeitgeist of psychology.
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:24.000
Also, too, when you understand why people do what they do, your sentiments of judgment start to change.
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:26.000
You're not gonna You get way more forgiving.
00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:26.400
You get it.
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:27.360
You understand?
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:28.000
Yeah, yeah.
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:32.400
It's not it's it's not so this because you understand, oh I mean, because life is nuanced.
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:38.559
And when people are trying to do broad strokes over complex situations, you're missing a lot.
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:42.000
And as soon as you get into the details, you'll be like, oh, we agree.
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.519
Yeah, it's just like it just took you a different way to get there.
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:47.360
Uh uh, if you if you don't got all right.
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:47.920
Go for it.
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:56.960
I I didn't I don't one, I don't know if I've ever said this to any of the men that have said on this show, but it it hit me as you were talking.
00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:00.800
There are necessary voices in our business.
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:09.519
I told uh Ida Rodriguez, I was like, you're a necessary voice as a comic because politically you can convey something that other people can't.
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:11.280
Uh I feel like Takar's like that.
00:51:11.519 --> 00:51:18.000
I feel like you are like that also, and more specifically than anything, specifically for the art form of comedy.
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:29.760
You will take it upon yourself to create a list of comics that the public does not know to say, hey, listen, here's a bunch of comedians that you should know, because every time I ask you who your favorite comic is, everybody's dead.
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:34.320
Well, they love naming a dead.
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:37.440
Oh my God.
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:38.639
Whole list.
00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:39.199
Yes.
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:41.440
I mean, like, who was your favorite comic?
00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:44.719
They'll name niggas who ain't been here for over a decade.
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:45.199
Yes.
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:48.480
I was like, how is this your favorite current comic?
00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:48.880
Right.
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:49.599
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:53.199
And and so, so you're an extremely necessary voice.
00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:55.360
You said something, uh, I heard you say something one time.
00:51:55.519 --> 00:52:00.800
It was like, you know, we used to get uh the music, you have to go and buy a CD.
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:07.679
And now there's a world where all the content is like damn near free, or you're paying for all of it for a very low amount.
00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:10.320
Yeah, you pay$10, you get all the albums.
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:13.599
You'll never be able to appreciate music that way.
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:14.400
Right, yeah, right.
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:15.039
Never.
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:15.440
Yeah.
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:17.039
But if I buy a CD.
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:18.559
For sure, that investment is serious.
00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:19.679
The investment is serious.
00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:21.920
They be like, they'll be like, yo, you listen to the new album.
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:22.880
I'm still listening to it.
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:23.519
Yeah, I'm still.
00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:25.280
I'm still listening to it.
00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:26.559
How do you feel about it?
00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:29.760
I'll let you know by the end of the week after I get it.
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:31.440
I only got six distinct to change it.
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:32.719
Yeah, exactly.
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:36.239
Nobody sits with stuff anymore.
00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:38.800
And art is something you have to sit with.
00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:39.519
Yeah, to really.
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:44.239
Because think about think about y'all doing an hour worth of stand-up.
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:44.880
Right?
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:48.079
Let's say you go blank, blank slate.
00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:51.199
You're not using none of the material you currently got.
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:54.880
I tell you, six months from now, you gotta film an hour.
00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:59.360
How much work go into building that hour in a six month?
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:03.440
And imagine if somebody watched it once and was like, uh.
00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:04.079
Yeah.
00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:05.840
I'd be like, Nick, no, no, no, no, no.
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:11.280
You need to go, yeah, I'm doing a lot of shit in here that ain't no nah nah nah.
00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:12.800
And they watched it doing this.
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:15.280
Yeah, it was in the kitchen.
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:15.599
Yeah.
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:17.119
Yeah, kids running around.
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:17.440
Yeah.
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:17.840
Yeah.
00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:24.159
Y'all, you man, art is not like content is not art, and art is not content.
00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:25.440
There's a lot of content creators.
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:27.039
Artists are not content creators.
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:30.239
There is something completely different about it.
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:31.199
You know what I mean?
00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:33.840
That's why, but I know people love art.
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:38.639
That's why when you see centers and how everybody is having whole conversations, man, did you see what they did with this?
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:39.840
What do you think this means?
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.800
Jordan Peel did it with uh Get Out.
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:45.760
Art causes conversation.
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:46.320
Yes.
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:53.760
And then when so the thing is, once you become a content creator, you are now cheapening what art is.
00:53:53.920 --> 00:54:00.800
And then it leaves people, uh people start getting like their attention spans start getting shorter.
00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:12.000
And the people who attention span getting shorter, they are cheating themselves out of an opportunity to experience something dope because they because they now are stuck on content.
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:15.199
I don't, that's why I don't consume content like that.
00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:17.519
People be like, you know what the newest dance is?
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:18.159
I have no clue.
00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:20.880
And I will and I will not you know what song is popular?
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:21.679
I have no idea.
00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:23.360
And I haven't uh and I don't want to know.
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:23.760
Yeah.
00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:28.559
Man, but you I'll watch somebody's content where a nigga play four different people.
00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:32.639
He he got four different personalities, he done wrote a script and everything.
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:35.360
I was like, oh nah, this dude is just doing his own movie.
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:35.920
Right, right.
00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:37.039
I'll watch that.
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:38.639
But no, no, no, no, no.
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:40.639
I'll go to, I'll listen to y'all podcasts.
00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:43.840
I'll and the thing is, I don't even really like listening to podcasts.
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:50.800
I want to watch the podcast because I want to see the interaction, the real human interaction between.
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:52.880
But I can't, you can't always hear that.
00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:54.159
You know what I mean?
00:54:54.320 --> 00:55:01.039
Like, if you you gotta listen to stuff a lot to tell what a if a nigga's smiling or he's gritting his teeth or whatever, whatever he says.
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:03.519
But if I'm watching, I can see.
00:55:03.679 --> 00:55:08.800
Like, y'all be talking, you say something funny, and I like, nah, BT didn't really like that.
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:13.760
He laughed, but he ain't he ain't he ain't really never you you telling personal shit.
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:22.400
I can tell that if I'm if I'm watching or whatever, and I just like I I love community too.
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:23.199
That's my thing.
00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:25.360
I take my people with me everywhere.
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:26.239
You know what I mean?
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:31.679
I don't like I'm it's so funny because I come off as a loner, but I'm so communal.
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:38.559
That's why I'm always making lists and telling people about the the craft, I'm telling people about the art, I'm telling people y'all should go see.
00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:48.480
And I think one of the things that gets me in trouble as a comic is it's such, it's looked at as a solo thing.
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:49.039
Right.
00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:51.679
So I gotta promote me solo.
00:55:52.639 --> 00:56:00.960
And whenever I do that, and and then I and then I uh shout out my peers, the people who don't get shout out, and go, what is he doing?
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:01.679
You know what?
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:02.559
Am I nothing?
00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:05.840
And I'm like, you know, you can do the same thing I'm doing.
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:06.400
Yeah, right.
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:10.400
When I go, hey man, I'm dope, here's some more dope people.
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:14.239
And you could have easily went, Ryan is right, these people are dope.
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:16.400
But here's some people I think are dope too.
00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:18.480
You know, I would have shared that.
00:56:18.639 --> 00:56:18.800
Yeah.
00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:21.599
Y'all been asking, how can y'all support killing it?
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:23.119
Well, we got an answer for you.
00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:23.920
We got one.
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:24.880
Cash app.
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:25.679
Boom.
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:31.119
We just like every other send about it.
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:35.119
A money symbol, killing it pod, is where you can donate.
00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:37.039
We are independently produced right now.
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:38.800
Y'all be asking about a Patreon.
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:40.480
You don't even have to, this ain't even much of money.
00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:42.400
Just go and put something in there right now.
00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:43.440
I'm gonna jump in right here.
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:44.960
I'm gonna jump in right here.
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:49.039
So that's that is the one thing I don't feel this way.
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:56.559
The one critique I've heard about you is some people feel like, well, why he always gotta say how good of a comedian he is?
00:56:56.719 --> 00:56:58.480
Why he always gotta say that.
00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:09.199
Now, me, I'm I'm like, well, Lil Wayne said I'm the best rapper alive, people started saying, yeah, he the best rapper alive.
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:09.679
T.I.
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:10.480
said I'm the king of the side.
00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:10.880
T.I.
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:11.840
said I'm the king of the side.
00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:12.880
Like, yeah, T.I.
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:13.760
is the king of the side.
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:21.760
So from I understand from that perspective, but I want you to say out of your mouth, why do you feel it's necessary for you to tell people how dope you are?
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:24.159
Because I watched y'all not do it.
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:30.719
They said, they said, oh, if you really like that, the people to say it for you.
00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:38.880
I saw D-Ray do almost a different set for 20 years straight every Monday and then sell out shows and break records all over the country.
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:41.599
He's been at hit movies, he's been at everything.
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:44.559
He even had a uh successful reality show.
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:48.000
When y'all talk about legends, what y'all gonna talk about D-Ray?
00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:53.840
This nigga was his nigga was uh responsible for every skit on the Kanye album first and second album.
00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:56.719
This nigga, we talk about Grammy Award winning classics.
00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:59.519
He's providing the funny all the way through Dolo.
00:57:59.920 --> 00:58:00.960
When you gonna say something?
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:02.239
Y'all gonna do it for Lil Duval?
00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:03.440
When you gonna do it for Duval?
00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:06.239
Tony Roberts, when you gonna do it?
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:07.119
Nah, nigga.
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:08.239
I seen how y'all like the.
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:09.360
I see how y'all get done.
00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:10.400
I'm about to take it.
00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:11.119
No, no, no.
00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:12.079
I'll tell you.
00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:12.960
Don't you?
00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:14.320
No.
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:15.280
Yeah, yeah.
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:20.719
Yeah, because when these niggas is doing all of this, and then I go, who you who who killing it right now?
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:21.840
They can name somebody dead.
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:22.960
I'll be like, nope.
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:23.440
Nope.
00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:24.320
I'ma tell you.
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:26.000
No, I do not believe.
00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:28.719
Do not trust these niggas to give you your flowers.
00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:29.039
Yeah.
00:58:29.199 --> 00:58:31.679
Do not trust the public to give you your flowers.
00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:32.480
They don't know.
00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:36.960
Shows like this is so important because people are watching shows like, I didn't know he did all of that.
00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:38.159
Well, you watched it all.
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:38.719
Absolutely.
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:40.960
You watched it all, you consumed it all.
00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:41.920
What is it?
00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:47.760
Because there's something about people are so moved by stardom and not art.
00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:54.559
Whenever you see somebody doing a whole bunch of dope shit, why can't you just say it's dope?
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:56.960
And people hold on to nostalgia so much.
00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:06.400
A nigga, a nigga have nine stand-up specials, and they'll tell you you not better than that nigga that they played on Comic View over and over and over again that had three sex.
00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:06.880
Right.
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:08.559
I remember them three jokes, buddy.
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:10.320
Yeah, that boy, that boy was good.
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:11.280
He was good.
00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:15.599
And we sitting here like, nigga, all of us got a dope ass sex man crap.
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:22.559
But if I say that, oh, you a hater, you not giving the problem to the to the legends.
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:23.199
No, man.
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:23.840
I'm sorry.
00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:28.159
I'm sorry, but my fucking generation is dope, nigga.
00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:30.639
My generation is dope, nigga.
00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:34.880
You would see when y'all, when y'all play with me, you playing with us.
00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:36.239
That's the way I feel.
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:37.519
That's the way I feel.
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:39.679
You're not, I'm not just fighting for me.
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:42.079
When I talk shit, I ain't just fighting for me.
00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:43.360
I'm fighting for us.
00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:45.039
That's a good transition.
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:47.920
Because comic views filming right now.
00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:48.400
Yeah.
00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:50.159
You made a song.
00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:52.239
A jingle nigga.
00:59:52.639 --> 01:00:01.360
I I'm I've I uh have a very unique perspective about the city, about the business, because uh humbly, not humbly, fuck that shit.
01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:02.079
It is what it is.
01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:04.159
Most of the time when I'm in the city, I'm closing out a show.
01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:12.559
I'm going uh when when a couple of shows happen um in the city and I could not get on, I couldn't get an audition.
01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:15.679
And there was comics that were mad for me.
01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:16.800
But nigga, why you ain't here?
01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:21.199
Fast forward to Heart of the City and the 30-minute special.
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:23.440
And if I had had the credits, I couldn't have did it.
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:26.559
So now, one, I was I was cool the first time.
01:00:26.719 --> 01:00:28.480
Two, I want to show love to my niggas.
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:33.119
And three, when Comic View happens this year, and people call me, I say, no, no, no, no.
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:35.360
It's not, that does not, it doesn't work like for that for me.
01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:40.400
I showed up, I show up, I look at the list, I say, okay, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love.
01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:40.880
We're fine.
01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:41.599
We're fine.
01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:45.519
I'm only gonna I'm gonna raise hell if it's them niggas.
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:49.119
And that's where I ain't seen you do shit, I'm gonna start flipping shit over.
01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:52.320
That was the thing for me, right?
01:00:52.880 --> 01:01:04.320
I understand, you know, it's so important for people to see new people, but it's also important for people to see the dogs that's been overlooked.
01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:04.960
Yes.
01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:06.159
You know what I mean?
01:01:06.239 --> 01:01:06.559
Yeah.
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:08.079
It's so important.
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:09.440
And you were fighting for them.
01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:10.880
Yeah, and I be fighting for them.
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:12.320
That's why he has a producer credit.
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:18.960
Yo, man, I'm telling I was in these rooms, and they were like, hey, such and such has a good following.
01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:20.000
I was like, that's great.
01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:21.840
But have you seen this nigga?
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:23.679
Because this is a stand-up show.
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:28.400
So whenever at the end of the day, who's gonna do the job?
01:01:28.559 --> 01:01:32.400
Then there's, and then you need to trust, you need people you can trust.
01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:35.119
They going, hey man, but I really like this person.
01:01:35.199 --> 01:01:38.880
Have they ever filmed themselves doing stand-up?
01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:47.599
Have they ever seen, have they done, have they acted, have they ever had a camera right here while they have to do the thing that they have to do?
01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:50.719
You know, I think people don't understand.
01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:54.079
Stand-up is difficult as fuck.
01:01:54.239 --> 01:01:55.440
It is difficult.
01:01:55.679 --> 01:02:02.480
And just because I learned this whenever I shot all Deaf Comedy, when they brought Deaf Comedy Jam back, that's right, I did that too.
01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:08.000
And uh we want to get it.
01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:09.440
We start the gunshots now, baby.
01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:14.639
When you film stand-up, it's you.
01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:17.280
Clubs are set up for you to win.
01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:20.800
They can put the audience in the dark, they put the spotlight on you.
01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:24.400
There's ways to ignore what's happening in the room.
01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:28.000
When you film for TV, you see everything.
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:32.079
You see the face of every person in that room.
01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:33.920
You see every camera.
01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:34.480
Yeah.
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:35.920
Yeah.
01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:42.559
There's people in the room who don't like comedy, but they heard Comic View was shooting, and I want to be on camera.
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:45.599
So now you ain't even in front of comedy fans.
01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:50.559
You gotta be so good that you make niggas who don't usually do this laugh.
01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:53.199
You need people who have done that all the time.
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:55.360
How many times have y'all played in front of people?
01:02:56.159 --> 01:02:58.639
Especially in LA, who really ain't there.
01:02:59.119 --> 01:02:59.840
Especially in LA.
01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:00.320
Yeah.
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:02.320
You need those people.
01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:06.079
Why would I put somebody up who only perform in front of their fans?
01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:06.480
Right.
01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:08.239
Your fans aren't here.
01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:10.719
It's not gonna go like you think it's gonna go.
01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:28.320
We just spoke about this um even yesterday, how how comedy, how how like the the changing of the energy of comedy shows for example, like the thing that makes Def Jam so dope was that you could tell they went right to the subway and said, yo, we got a show.
01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:30.559
And niggas just came in there with their boots.
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:31.440
And real people.
01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:37.599
They left their daughter at daycare and they would just, they was just some nigga let they was just ready to go.
01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:39.599
They stopped at the drug sale, they were like, let me stop.
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:40.079
Everything.
01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:40.639
Right?
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:48.079
And then so now we get to a point where you you you you even sometimes you watch a comedy, uh a comedy tape and now the audience think they the act.
01:03:48.159 --> 01:03:55.840
And so they they come up and they they they can laugh, they and they it's like, yo, what's Did you get my good side?
01:03:56.079 --> 01:03:56.960
Did you get my good side?
01:03:57.119 --> 01:03:59.039
You the audience! Yo, you the audience.
01:03:59.119 --> 01:04:00.400
And I was I fought for that.
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:00.800
Yeah.
01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:05.360
Whenever the comic review came up, I was like, it's gonna be real people in the audience saying that.
01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:07.840
They're like, why would you think that would hey nigga?
01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:09.440
I see what niggas be doing, bro.
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:14.639
You gotta have real people there because real laughs are contagious.
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:15.360
Contagious.
01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:19.280
It makes people who are at home, they gotta feel like they were in the room.
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:21.199
And they know no one laughs, like, oh.
01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:24.400
They know people don't laugh like that.
01:04:24.880 --> 01:04:27.280
Yeah, they know black people don't laugh like that.
01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:29.360
So what are we doing, right?
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:39.440
So for me, it was, and and I had the and and big salute to uh Drew Tillman and and and uh Royale Watkins, who also fight for the art a lot.
01:04:39.679 --> 01:04:40.480
Fight the Royale, man.
01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:41.519
Yeah, fight for the art.
01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:44.159
Royale be fighting his ass off for the art, boy.
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:45.039
People don't know.
01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:46.639
We need a sweeping shot.
01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:47.199
Yeah, yeah.
01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:50.960
So for me, it it was very important.
01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:59.599
Uh and I understood, like, did I need Comic View for my career and nothing like that, or anything like that?
01:04:59.840 --> 01:05:08.159
No, but it's no, but it's important to me if I have a light on me, if it'll bring people's eyeballs to it, I gotta bring the eyeballs to my peers.
01:05:08.639 --> 01:05:12.719
I gotta, we all are holding hands together to lift the craft up.
01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:15.440
And that's see, see, see, now see?
01:05:15.519 --> 01:05:16.079
Now see.
01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:16.639
See?
01:05:17.519 --> 01:05:23.679
When I get visceral about the people that that don't come down the hill, that's what I'm talking about.
01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:31.119
If you haven't been to Chaka Sundays in in 14 years, if you haven't been to Mobile Mondays, if you haven't done, you just pulled up the killing it.
01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:36.239
If you haven't pulled up to killing it, let's say, let's say you you're not you're not active no more.
01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:36.559
Yeah.
01:05:37.039 --> 01:05:41.119
Maybe you do your tours or whatever, whatever, but you're not active anymore.
01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:42.239
We don't see you.
01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:43.199
You don't love us.
01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:44.960
You don't you're this is your job now.
01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:46.719
Yeah, I so it's like people do that.
01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:52.000
You the people that are keeping it alive, and then you just be on the interview of them when they were like, it's a fraternity.
01:05:52.159 --> 01:05:54.639
Like, nigga, we ain't sick, you ain't paid your dues.
01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:55.599
It's hot, nigga.
01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:57.039
I bet you break your back.
01:05:58.400 --> 01:05:59.760
Do you even remember the step?
01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:00.320
Right.
01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:01.760
Hey, are you serious?
01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:02.639
We have not seen you.
01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:03.440
We ain't seen you.
01:06:03.920 --> 01:06:04.480
We haven't seen you.
01:06:04.559 --> 01:06:07.440
So it's like if you're keeping the art form alive, that's true.
01:06:07.599 --> 01:06:18.079
Uh any stand-up show, unless it's called Legacy X or brand new niggas, should have the idea should be the people that are keeping the art form alive right now.
01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:21.679
Who is in the business, killing shit, running through the business.
01:06:21.760 --> 01:06:22.960
That's what you have on, baby.
01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:25.119
And when I looked at the list, that's who was on there.
01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:26.320
I said perfectly fine.
01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:28.079
That's all I it's all I wanted.
01:06:28.639 --> 01:06:29.440
I just wanted to give people.
01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:30.880
I'll see you niggas season three.
01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:32.239
I yeah, I want to.
01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:33.679
But I I see.
01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:40.559
But I wanted people to see, like when they watch it, they were like, what is stand-up look like currently?
01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:41.119
Exactly.
01:06:41.280 --> 01:06:45.440
And I didn't want what does popular stand-up look like currently?
01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:49.760
What does actual stand-up look like currently?
01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:50.400
Right.
01:06:50.719 --> 01:06:54.400
And it was, man, that's why like Ron Taylor winning.
01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:55.360
Oh my God.
01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:58.719
Means so much to me.
01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:00.719
It meant so much to me.
01:07:01.119 --> 01:07:01.920
I can't talk about it.
01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:02.559
I'm gonna cry.
01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:03.760
So but it meant so much to me.
01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:04.719
We need our Oprah.
01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:06.559
Tears, man.
01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:06.880
Tears.
01:07:07.199 --> 01:07:07.599
That's real, man.
01:07:08.239 --> 01:07:21.360
It meant so much to me because, like, one of my biggest knocks on Netflix is man, you guys have the eyeballs.
01:07:22.239 --> 01:07:29.920
You got millions of eyeballs that you can put on this craft, and it's never about the craft.
01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:35.039
And I kept saying, man, they don't care about who the best out here is.
01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:37.360
They don't care who the best out here is.
01:07:37.519 --> 01:07:40.559
And then they did one competition where they're like, well, we'll see who the best.
01:07:40.639 --> 01:07:41.519
And the best won.
01:07:42.320 --> 01:07:50.400
Which proved my point that you niggas never cared about because Ron been in front of your face the whole goddamn time.
01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:52.000
I went into Netflix.
01:07:52.559 --> 01:07:57.519
There was some black women who frequent uh uh Chakra Sundays.
01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:01.599
And they would they see me doing this every week, and every now and then I I take a little shot at Netflix.
01:08:01.760 --> 01:08:03.199
I'm like, I'd slow the set down.
01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:05.679
I'm like, no, let me be interesting because that's how you get a special.
01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:06.639
No more laughs, you guys.
01:08:07.039 --> 01:08:07.519
Yeah.
01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:14.320
And they they they made it, they took it upon themselves to produce a show at the Netflix building specifically for me.
01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:17.439
Hey, call some comics you know, this is gonna be the show.
01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:18.159
We love you.
01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:20.159
We need, we just gonna bring the people down.
01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:22.319
I don't even know what department they work in.
01:08:22.399 --> 01:08:23.920
They was like, they just put it together.
01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:24.800
It was beautiful.
01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:27.520
In that meeting, I was running walking around talking to Netflix people.
01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:28.479
I said, you know what y'all need?
01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:29.840
Y'all need a comedy competition.
01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:37.600
I said, Y'all need a comedy competition, set the shit up, let the comedy at the time, I don't even know about the the Kev thing.
01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:41.279
And then like after I said it to a few people, they kept bringing people into the conversation.
01:08:41.359 --> 01:08:44.640
And then one of them like, yeah, I think Kev's working on like a competition thing.
01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:46.479
Fast forward to Ron Taylor winning.
01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:47.439
Who knows?
01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:50.960
Yeah, and I might just I I'm not saying I sparked the idea.
01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:53.119
I'm saying it already existed because it was right there.
01:08:53.199 --> 01:08:56.319
It's like No, I'm gonna tell you, it hat it actually happened.
01:08:56.479 --> 01:09:02.399
I hope, I hope I don't get in trouble for this, but actually it happened before COVID shut it down.
01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:06.560
There actually was, you know, they did the hip-hop version.
01:09:06.720 --> 01:09:06.880
Yeah.
01:09:07.279 --> 01:09:11.760
They did a comedy version of that, and they were into like the second and third round.
01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:12.960
You mean the one that T.I.
01:09:13.039 --> 01:09:15.520
and all of them did, and that's what rhythm and flow.
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:15.760
Yeah.
01:09:16.479 --> 01:09:17.760
They asked me to be on second season.
01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:18.640
A rhythm and flow?
01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:20.720
Yeah, I was like, I'm on my guy if I can't be right.
01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:24.319
That's when I was putting out music.
01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:24.960
No, yeah, yeah.
01:09:25.119 --> 01:09:26.640
Nah, they hit me up to be on it, but I'm listening.
01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:29.680
Yeah, they did, they was doing a comedy version of it.
01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:38.880
And uh, God, I don't, I don't know if I get in trouble, but a couple of our peers who really get down, who really get busy, was on that.
01:09:39.119 --> 01:09:41.840
And I know they were about to, they were about to show them what time is it.
01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:43.119
Kevin hosting that too?
01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:45.600
No, they they were doing it like rhythm and flow.
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:50.800
So uh I can't remember who all was a judge, but it, yeah, man.
01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:54.960
And then COVID shut it down, and I was like, oh, this, see, it ain't gonna happen.
01:09:55.039 --> 01:10:00.079
But then whenever they did that one, and this is what I was talking about when filming, right?
01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:07.680
Is people when you look at Ron Taylor's set in the finals, there's thousands of people there, right?
01:10:09.039 --> 01:10:11.520
Nobody bought a Ron Taylor ticket.
01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:12.399
It didn't matter.
01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:22.720
That nigga is so good that they filled up a room of thousands of people that did not really know who he was, and he murdered.
01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:24.079
He rocked that bitch.
01:10:24.239 --> 01:10:27.680
That's what so when if some people go, how come I don't get an opportunity?
01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:29.199
Do you know how good you got?
01:10:29.520 --> 01:10:34.560
If he that good in front of niggas who don't know him, imagine when he gets his face.
01:10:34.880 --> 01:10:35.279
Oh my god.
01:10:35.359 --> 01:10:37.439
So you know, the paint gonna come off the wall.
01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:38.159
Oh my goodness.
01:10:38.319 --> 01:10:41.520
Bro, that's a you know, the to your same, to the same point.
01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:53.119
That's why you you catch cats at the Y at the Y, and just because a nigga's in the league and he ain't getting no playing time, the nigga at the end of the bench is still way better.
01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:54.000
Way better.
01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:54.880
Way better.
01:10:55.119 --> 01:10:56.640
Nigga, just to get to the league.
01:10:56.880 --> 01:10:56.960
Yeah.
01:10:57.199 --> 01:10:57.920
You gotta be.
01:10:58.880 --> 01:11:06.239
Let me ask you this important, not not to even go into that, but you you I I can see your uh your loyalty to Ron.
01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:13.279
I hear about your I can tell that you got some some fundamental things that you get from home.
01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:14.239
Where does that come from?
01:11:14.399 --> 01:11:23.520
Some things, what I'm saying is basically I can see there's some things within you that the industry hasn't removed from you.
01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:25.279
There's some gro some grounded things.
01:11:25.359 --> 01:11:26.479
Where does that come from?
01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:31.279
Uh loyalty is such a huge thing for me.
01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:37.279
Um and just because it's a huge thing for me don't mean I always get it right.
01:11:37.359 --> 01:11:38.159
I'm a human.
01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:38.560
Right.
01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:48.560
Because I can I can mess up a relationship too, or I can end up doing something where my loyalty didn't show up the way that it should, or I might have been loyal to the wrong things.
01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:49.039
Right.
01:11:49.199 --> 01:11:49.439
Right.
01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:54.399
But loyalty will always be such a huge thing for me.
01:11:54.560 --> 01:12:01.199
And out here I learned that survival is a huge thing for people out here.
01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:17.279
Or like everybody, and I'm not everybody, but you know, we talk indefinite when it's not, but it feels like everybody is wanting to come up and and it's never about loyalty.
01:12:17.439 --> 01:12:28.560
Like, this pie, we talking about three niggas who were successful who could have just did it on their own, but saw the value in each other.
01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:29.199
Right.
01:12:29.520 --> 01:12:31.359
Nigga, that's just not a thing.
01:12:32.720 --> 01:12:33.439
Like a nigga.
01:12:35.760 --> 01:12:37.279
It's so crazy.
01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:47.199
Like, like, man, uh I remember uh I um wanted to do like, you did gimme five.
01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:47.760
Yes.
01:12:48.079 --> 01:13:02.640
And then uh I was uh doing this thing where I was starting to film top five or whatever, and and they were like, well, you know, dad, man, you know, BT doing whatever, whatever.
01:13:02.720 --> 01:13:04.319
I was like, yeah, I'll do something else.
01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:08.720
They were like, nah, what if we could, hey man, ain't stepping on this nigga's shit.
01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:09.920
What are you talking about?
01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:12.399
Nigga, I'ma do two episodes.
01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:12.720
Right.
01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:13.199
That's right.
01:13:13.680 --> 01:13:14.159
That's what it is.
01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:23.920
Like the way, man, out here, you can't even be like, if I'm excited about something I create, I gotta be worried about telling a nigga.
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:24.479
Right.
01:13:24.720 --> 01:13:30.079
Because he might get a general and not have nothing to pitch and pitch your life.
01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:31.119
And pitch your shit.
01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:32.720
And pitch your life.
01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:34.800
It was like, they're like, you got anything?
01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:37.119
What if I was a comedian from North Carolina?
01:13:37.520 --> 01:13:38.880
And a green about this.
01:13:40.479 --> 01:13:41.520
I wore a green hoodie.
01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:43.199
Y'all wore a green hoodie.
01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:46.239
This is what I wanted to ask you.
01:13:46.399 --> 01:13:55.119
This is one of my last questions, is okay, you're popping on on social media, you're killing it with the ticket sales.
01:13:55.359 --> 01:13:58.319
You're starting to get into the door when it comes to Hollywood.
01:13:58.479 --> 01:14:05.039
Is there a part of you that feel like you're still being slept on by the Hollywood system?
01:14:05.279 --> 01:14:05.600
Yeah.
01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:10.319
Yeah, I'm definitely being slept on by Hollywood, but only certain aspects of Hollywood.
01:14:10.479 --> 01:14:12.000
There's, I'm in the door.
01:14:12.159 --> 01:14:14.319
I've been in the door for a minute.
01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:21.600
But the uh people who believe in me are, you know, in this game, niggas have runs.
01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:22.239
Right.
01:14:22.560 --> 01:14:27.760
Where it's certain times where people just seem like some people are getting everything greenlit.
01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:35.359
And and right now, I'm connected to a person who's it seems like they're getting everything greenlit, who believe in me.
01:14:35.520 --> 01:14:37.840
So whenever you have that, it's like the Ryan's.
01:14:38.079 --> 01:14:39.359
Who's this person in their email address?
01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:39.840
Man.
01:14:42.399 --> 01:14:43.760
It's actually a group.
01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:44.560
It's a group.
01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:45.840
It's a collector.
01:14:46.239 --> 01:14:48.640
It's a collective, but they're collective at gmail.com.
01:14:50.239 --> 01:14:53.119
But uh even then, I don't, I just don't lean on that.
01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:54.239
I don't lean on it.
01:14:54.319 --> 01:14:57.119
Like, my ticket sales have doubled since the drop of my special.
01:14:57.199 --> 01:14:57.279
Yeah.
01:14:57.359 --> 01:14:57.520
Wow.
01:14:57.760 --> 01:14:58.000
Right?
01:14:58.079 --> 01:14:58.479
Yeah.
01:14:58.640 --> 01:15:04.000
But I don't talk about it because uh you can I can say that, people like, oh, he's flexing.
01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:09.279
No, I could be telling you comics that this is the way.
01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:10.880
Drop the special.
01:15:11.680 --> 01:15:15.039
But all people are here is that this nigga talking about how many tickets he said.
01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:20.000
No, I'm telling my peers, nigga, that this is it's in front of you.
01:15:20.159 --> 01:15:21.119
Nate showed you.
01:15:21.439 --> 01:15:23.439
Ali showed you, Matt showed you.
01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:24.720
You gotta show them the thing.
01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:26.239
You gotta show.
01:15:26.479 --> 01:15:27.359
Stop holding on.
01:15:27.439 --> 01:15:29.279
They they beat it into our heads.
01:15:29.439 --> 01:15:34.319
Hold on to your material because one day you, you know, you're gonna have to film.
01:15:34.479 --> 01:15:35.680
Man, let all that shit go.
01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:41.840
Everybody that just did that Netflix competition did all the jokes you already seen on their goddamn page.
01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:42.479
That's a fact.
01:15:42.640 --> 01:15:43.359
Wow, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:45.359
All of them did.
01:15:45.520 --> 01:15:47.359
Man, I've been tracking Ron.
01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:52.000
This nigga did uh crew, how many followers did he get yesterday?
01:15:52.239 --> 01:15:53.039
42,000.
01:15:53.279 --> 01:15:55.199
42,000 yesterday.
01:15:55.439 --> 01:15:55.840
Wow.
01:15:57.199 --> 01:15:58.079
24 hours.
01:15:58.239 --> 01:15:58.479
Yeah.
01:15:59.279 --> 01:16:01.119
Put the stand-up out, nigga.
01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:03.359
Just just put it out.
01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:10.000
And whatever, like somebody like me, y'all, uh comics are so egotistical.
01:16:10.079 --> 01:16:11.520
You think everybody knows you.
01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:12.800
That's hilarious.
01:16:13.359 --> 01:16:14.000
Oh my God.
01:16:14.640 --> 01:16:16.239
They're like, why ain't I get picked?
01:16:16.399 --> 01:16:17.359
Believe it or not.
01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:20.239
Nobody knows who the fuck you are.
01:16:20.479 --> 01:16:22.079
I'm killing it in my city.
01:16:22.319 --> 01:16:24.640
None of them people are making decisions, nigga.
01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:31.600
Like, so whenever, so if if uh if they like, man, we need to pick people from different cities, right?
01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:35.359
And they be like, yo, who ha who nice in Sacramento?
01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:37.359
I'll ask you, I'll ask Lance.
01:16:37.680 --> 01:16:39.199
I'm not going to Sacramento.
01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:39.600
Right, bro.
01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:44.640
If they don't have a relationship with you, why don't you have a relationship with BT or Lance?
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:45.119
Right.
01:16:45.279 --> 01:16:45.760
That's a fact.
01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:46.159
Yeah.
01:16:46.319 --> 01:16:48.079
Them of the dogs from your city.
01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:51.600
Them of the niggas you saw got it done and got out and doing the.
01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:53.359
Why the fuck they ain't talking to you?
01:16:53.520 --> 01:16:55.520
If you, I don't even think you're serious.
01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:55.760
Yeah.
01:16:56.159 --> 01:16:56.880
Straight up.
01:16:57.119 --> 01:17:03.439
If you don't know who, if you ain't connected to who doing it and did it out of your city for real.
01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:03.680
Yeah.
01:17:03.840 --> 01:17:08.159
And then you wonder why you don't get picked, then you're like, man, I feel like I'm the nicest.
01:17:08.239 --> 01:17:09.920
You go to the page, you ain't posted one.
01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:11.039
How I know?
01:17:11.279 --> 01:17:12.319
How I know how good you are.
01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:13.359
I'm here with my baby.
01:17:13.600 --> 01:17:16.479
Hey, man, you got me and my girl on date.
01:17:16.960 --> 01:17:17.279
Yeah.
01:17:18.159 --> 01:17:20.640
You couldn't tell from this picture of me and my girl.
01:17:20.800 --> 01:17:23.359
I got an old ass flyer from sex six months ago.
01:17:23.520 --> 01:17:23.840
Right.
01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:26.239
And I'm just like, you ain't see the picture of me on stage.
01:17:26.399 --> 01:17:31.760
Man, if you don't get the fuck out my face with this, y'all, you gotta understand, y'all.
01:17:32.319 --> 01:17:36.479
You gotta give people the opportunity to find you.
01:17:36.560 --> 01:17:38.159
You're not doing the things to find.
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:44.319
That's like doing the hey, you go into a job interview, they're like, hey man, uh, how do I know you can do this job?
01:17:44.479 --> 01:17:45.520
Trust me, my nigga.
01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:46.079
Yeah.
01:17:46.319 --> 01:17:47.119
Right, right, right.
01:17:47.920 --> 01:17:48.640
You just relax.
01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:49.199
I got it.
01:17:49.359 --> 01:17:50.000
Ask about me.
01:17:50.159 --> 01:17:50.399
Right.
01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:51.119
Ask who?
01:17:51.520 --> 01:17:52.000
Anybody.
01:17:52.159 --> 01:17:53.600
Hey, man, you better get this nigga out.
01:17:54.720 --> 01:17:55.680
Hey, anybody, you know him.
01:17:55.920 --> 01:17:56.720
I never met this nigga before.
01:17:56.880 --> 01:17:58.640
Yeah, and then somebody walked by, you know this nigga?
01:17:58.960 --> 01:18:00.479
Never seen this nigga a day in my life.
01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:02.800
I got I gotta do a little cocaw.
01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:03.119
All right.
01:18:03.359 --> 01:18:04.399
All right, uh, a little cocawal.
01:18:04.479 --> 01:18:04.880
I know, I know.
01:18:05.119 --> 01:18:05.920
I see you watch it.
01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:07.439
Uh a little coca-call talk.
01:18:07.600 --> 01:18:19.119
Um, what was the how much money had you made when you decided that I what was the decision making that made you say, I don't need to be in LA?
01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:23.199
I could go and buy some property over here, I could be back and forth, I could fly as much as I want.
01:18:23.439 --> 01:18:25.680
Because he lived in LA for three weeks and then he moved to the L.
01:18:25.840 --> 01:18:27.199
Yeah, lived like four years.
01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:28.399
Yeah, four years, okay.
01:18:28.560 --> 01:18:29.119
Yeah, so let's.
01:18:32.399 --> 01:18:40.159
I'ma tell you, man, uh uh when COVID hit, we and then you know London and y'all, y'all, they you turn in auditions digitally.
01:18:40.479 --> 01:18:40.720
Yeah, yeah.
01:18:41.039 --> 01:18:44.079
Once I ain't gotta stand in front of people no more, what the fuck am I here for?
01:18:44.239 --> 01:18:44.399
Right.
01:18:44.720 --> 01:18:46.319
Yeah, I can feel this anywhere.
01:18:46.479 --> 01:18:46.640
Yeah.
01:18:46.880 --> 01:18:55.199
But the thing for me that was very important is I couldn't get a situation right with my children to where I could get them over here.
01:18:55.680 --> 01:18:57.520
So I had to keep flying back.
01:18:57.680 --> 01:19:00.880
And I was like, man, now I ain't gonna audition, now I ain't gotta do that.
01:19:00.960 --> 01:19:04.079
The first thing I thought was, man, let me get closer to my kids.
01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:09.520
And then when I got over to uh when I made it back home, I realized I had too much money.
01:19:11.119 --> 01:19:12.800
It kept me humble out here.
01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:16.319
Right, right.
01:19:16.560 --> 01:19:17.279
Real money.
01:19:17.439 --> 01:19:20.960
And and I didn't know that my real, that my money was real.
01:19:21.039 --> 01:19:22.399
It ain't real here.
01:19:22.800 --> 01:19:24.960
But it's a good thing.
01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:27.359
You doing very well.
01:19:27.680 --> 01:19:28.880
I'm doing very well.
01:19:29.359 --> 01:19:30.159
The mayor keeps calling.
01:19:30.479 --> 01:19:34.560
And then you see Jamie Foxx House, she be like, man, I ain't made a dime since I've been out here.
01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:37.600
Then you get back home and it's like, I can have Jamie Foxx House.
01:19:37.760 --> 01:19:39.039
I just gotta have it over here.
01:19:39.680 --> 01:19:41.199
I just gotta have it over here.
01:19:42.720 --> 01:19:44.319
All my property on the East Coast.
01:19:44.479 --> 01:19:45.760
Yeah, in the south.
01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:46.000
Yeah.
01:19:46.640 --> 01:19:46.720
Yeah.
01:19:47.119 --> 01:19:47.199
Yeah.
01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:48.960
He let the flex told me a couple times.
01:19:49.039 --> 01:19:51.680
Another like, yeah, I'm thinking about getting in the property.
01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:53.119
You know, what do you think about Florida?
01:19:53.199 --> 01:19:55.279
He's have you seen my Florida property?
01:19:58.960 --> 01:20:00.319
That sounds like some shit I did.
01:20:03.039 --> 01:20:04.319
Let me flip my shit.
01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:10.079
Well, and listen, nah, man.
01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:20.239
The thing was, uh I I grew up poor, for lack of a better phrase, uh, a better word.
01:20:20.800 --> 01:20:22.640
And I'm low maintenance.
01:20:22.800 --> 01:20:22.960
Right.
01:20:23.199 --> 01:20:24.399
I don't need nothing.
01:20:24.560 --> 01:20:24.800
Right.
01:20:25.039 --> 01:20:28.479
Man, the thing I spent all my money on was food and shoes.
01:20:28.640 --> 01:20:28.880
Yeah.
01:20:29.039 --> 01:20:29.520
Yeah.
01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:33.359
That was that was two things I didn't have a lot of.
01:20:33.520 --> 01:20:35.520
And then now I get to have as much as I want.
01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:37.840
So I'm still pretty low maintenance.
01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:41.680
Uh even the house I live in now is very small.
01:20:41.920 --> 01:20:44.399
Uh I just need enough room for me and my babies.
01:20:44.479 --> 01:20:44.720
Yeah.
01:20:44.880 --> 01:20:46.079
And we good to go.
01:20:46.800 --> 01:20:52.720
I think the reason I ask or sometimes I pose that conversation is it's not really about the dollar amount.
01:20:52.800 --> 01:20:56.079
But what happens is, uh, I'll step out of this conversation, step in.
01:20:56.159 --> 01:20:58.640
There's like a perspective of like comedy's like, oh, what do you do?
01:20:58.720 --> 01:21:00.079
What advice would you get to a comment?
01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:01.520
It's like, well, where is the motherfucker?
01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:04.319
Like uh Nate said we were sitting in the show, he was like, Are they funny yet?
01:21:04.479 --> 01:21:05.680
Because that's a different conversation.
01:21:05.920 --> 01:21:07.920
Now that you're funny, okay, cool.
01:21:08.079 --> 01:21:15.279
But now there's a conversation of, okay, cool, you're hilarious, and you're there's you're not worried about bills anymore.
01:21:15.359 --> 01:21:16.640
How, how now what?
01:21:16.720 --> 01:21:20.479
It's like how long has Nate been doing it, do you think?
01:21:20.640 --> 01:21:22.000
Uh it's definitely over 20 for some.
01:21:22.800 --> 01:21:23.039
For sure.
01:21:23.279 --> 01:21:24.479
So over 20, right?
01:21:24.880 --> 01:21:27.279
Took him 20 years to become an overnight success.
01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:27.840
Right.
01:21:27.920 --> 01:21:28.239
Yep.
01:21:28.399 --> 01:21:29.439
That's what people don't understand.
01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:33.840
They'd be like, man, you see Nate doing uh crowd work, you'd be like, I can do that.
01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:36.800
Nigga, you ain't been doing crowd work for 20 years.
01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:38.239
You can't do that in your wildest.
01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:40.960
And he was one of the best four years ever showed y'all to do crowd work.
01:21:41.359 --> 01:21:42.800
We already knew.
01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:44.720
We already knew.
01:21:45.279 --> 01:21:46.960
Man, I'm gonna tell y'all, man.
01:21:47.279 --> 01:21:50.319
Y'all ain't see Nate before.
01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:56.319
Then when y'all was seeing him do crowd work, I was like, he cheating y'all.
01:21:56.560 --> 01:21:57.920
Y'all don't even know.
01:21:58.640 --> 01:21:59.840
Y'all don't even know.
01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:06.399
I remember when like after Transformers came out and he had the Transformer bit where he talked about jazz and all the stuff.
01:22:06.720 --> 01:22:07.279
The nigga button.
01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:09.199
Nigga, what?
01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:11.119
And then I'm watching crowd work.
01:22:11.600 --> 01:22:12.720
Y'all did Def Jam together, yeah.
01:22:12.960 --> 01:22:16.880
Man, I was like, ah, man, that nigga have you pissing on yourself.
01:22:17.359 --> 01:22:19.119
Y'all have no idea.
01:22:19.520 --> 01:22:19.760
Yes.
01:22:19.920 --> 01:22:25.920
You have no clue what type of, and and and some people are like, well, I'm seeing Nate, right?
01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:32.560
I'll tell anybody, if you want to get into comedy, cool, you got 10 years of your life to throw away in hopes that something will happen.
01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:33.840
Two good relationships.
01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:34.239
Yeah.
01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:35.199
Yeah.
01:22:35.840 --> 01:22:36.479
Yeah.
01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:37.119
Yeah.
01:22:37.520 --> 01:22:38.239
10 years ago.
01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:40.399
Like, man, and because I was that nigga.
01:22:40.479 --> 01:22:41.600
It ain't gonna take me 10 years.
01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:43.039
That's why I worked so hard to become a.
01:22:43.279 --> 01:22:49.920
And as soon as I got to be a headliner and did all this, couldn't even make the special until I was 10 years in.
01:22:50.079 --> 01:22:50.319
Right.
01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:52.560
Nigga, you can't cheat it.
01:22:52.720 --> 01:22:54.560
The process is the process.
01:22:54.800 --> 01:22:58.720
You not really gonna be nice like that until 10 years.
01:22:58.960 --> 01:23:01.119
Because it's so much you have to experience.
01:23:01.279 --> 01:23:02.800
There's so much you have to go through.
01:23:02.880 --> 01:23:04.560
There's so much you have to see.
01:23:04.880 --> 01:23:07.199
And nigga, even when you become a headliner, right?
01:23:07.279 --> 01:23:10.319
You become, you go from, you go from host to feature, right?
01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:21.520
When you go from host, right, you gotta learn how to deal with doing material while niggas is sitting down, niggas is ordering, niggas is walking in, everything, right?
01:23:21.760 --> 01:23:23.680
That's why he's phenomenal, BT at hosting.
01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:24.079
Yeah.
01:23:24.399 --> 01:23:29.359
You gotta do and keep people invested and the show still be good, right?
01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:34.399
And then you gotta you gotta remember announcements, you gotta know how to get into them, get out.
01:23:34.479 --> 01:23:38.640
You gotta, if somebody fuck up, you gotta be able to reset the room and set them back up.
01:23:39.119 --> 01:23:42.960
The host is, nigga, the host is the quarterback.
01:23:43.039 --> 01:23:44.800
He the driver of the of the ship.
01:23:45.039 --> 01:23:45.199
Right.
01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:47.600
Your host is so important.
01:23:47.920 --> 01:23:51.760
And then like you get into the feature spot, and the feature spot is all money.
01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:52.239
Oh my god.
01:23:52.479 --> 01:23:54.239
Everybody then did the work in front of you.
01:23:54.560 --> 01:23:56.720
Somebody about to do all the work behind you.
01:23:57.119 --> 01:23:58.479
You just in the sweet spot.
01:23:58.560 --> 01:23:58.640
Yeah.
01:23:58.800 --> 01:24:01.359
And then people be like, man, I'm ready to be a headliner.
01:24:01.439 --> 01:24:02.399
I think I've done it.
01:24:02.479 --> 01:24:03.199
Well, we're finna see.
01:24:03.760 --> 01:24:06.640
I'm gonna tell you, 25 ain't nowhere near an hour.
01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:07.439
It is not.
01:24:07.600 --> 01:24:09.279
I promise you it ain't nowhere near an hour.
01:24:09.680 --> 01:24:10.560
They get hot up there.
01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:11.039
25.
01:24:12.239 --> 01:24:14.560
And then you go, and then you go, all right, I'm cool.
01:24:14.640 --> 01:24:15.439
I'm I'm surfing.
01:24:15.520 --> 01:24:18.319
Then at the 45-minute mark, they drop checks on your ass.
01:24:18.479 --> 01:24:19.119
Yeah, slowed up.
01:24:20.159 --> 01:24:21.920
Yeah, they drop checks on your ass.
01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:27.279
And you gotta deal with shit as a headliner that the host was dealing with.
01:24:27.439 --> 01:24:36.239
You don't even think as a headliner, you'll have to, you like, hey man, you about to get into your best bit and you hear somebody go, hey man, I ain't ordered this many goddamn wings.
01:24:36.640 --> 01:24:41.199
And if you think you, you think you funnier than a nigga who just got overcharged, you crazy.
01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:42.560
You'll never be funny.
01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:43.520
You'll never be that good.
01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:45.359
You'll never be that good.
01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:46.479
You'll never be that good.
01:24:46.640 --> 01:24:48.479
And you're like, hey man, I'm about to tell this joke.
01:24:48.560 --> 01:24:51.680
Nigga, somebody gotta take this shit off my tab, nigga.
01:24:51.840 --> 01:24:56.960
Like that is nothing you can say to a nigga, and especially people who are splitting the bill.
01:24:57.039 --> 01:24:58.399
I ain't ordered all this.
01:24:59.279 --> 01:25:02.479
Check drop and you gotta, and check drop a fuck with your ego.
01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:02.720
Yeah.
01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:10.399
If you've been killing, and then all of a sudden you you got 25% of the room, you be like, damn, y'all ain't like that joke.
01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:12.560
And you look, and ain't nobody looking at you.
01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:13.680
Everybody down.
01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:15.680
Nigga, everybody bones over the t.
01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:18.319
Yeah, I was like, so now you gotta learn.
01:25:18.560 --> 01:25:32.479
Now you gotta learn how to pace, and then you gotta have bits that you willing to just, your ego is not gonna hurt whenever you do during check drop, and then when they come up, you gotta be able to end with a boom.
01:25:33.199 --> 01:25:36.079
Now you go, hey, it's time to shoot the special.
01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:39.680
There's no check drop during the special.
01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:44.479
So whatever, even if you got a prolific club hour, that's not a special hour.
01:25:44.560 --> 01:25:44.720
Yeah.
01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:49.600
Because you are, you've already, you've been rehearsing for club.
01:25:50.239 --> 01:25:53.359
You, and then you you're gonna shoot the special in a theater.
01:25:53.680 --> 01:25:56.720
Club pace and theater pace ain't the same pace.
01:25:57.039 --> 01:25:57.439
There's different things.
01:25:57.680 --> 01:25:58.640
It ain't even the same at some point.
01:25:58.800 --> 01:26:00.399
Theater pace is different than arena pace.
01:26:00.640 --> 01:26:01.760
It's different than arena pace.
01:26:02.479 --> 01:26:04.880
That's why I be looking at people and be like, I'm ready to do.
01:26:05.119 --> 01:26:06.319
You ain't ready to do shit.
01:26:06.800 --> 01:26:12.239
There's so much you gotta do and experience before you could ever.
01:26:13.359 --> 01:26:16.960
One of the biggest things, people look at my special and be like, it's so good.
01:26:17.119 --> 01:26:18.159
How did you prepare?
01:26:18.720 --> 01:26:23.840
If it wasn't for Jill Scott, I don't even know if that special looks like that.
01:26:24.079 --> 01:26:28.880
She took me on a theater tour run as her opening act.
01:26:29.119 --> 01:26:35.439
I would have never been able to fill up those seats to be able to get the uh the reps.
01:26:37.439 --> 01:26:38.800
I don't know how to explain.
01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:41.840
I don't know how to tell that to somebody to get people to understand that.
01:26:41.920 --> 01:26:44.319
They'd be like, Ryan, I'm ready to do my hour.
01:26:44.479 --> 01:26:47.520
Nigga, if you a club comic, do the hour in a club.
01:26:47.840 --> 01:26:48.319
Facts.
01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:50.800
Do it where you do it at.
01:26:51.439 --> 01:26:52.960
Do it where you do it at.
01:26:53.199 --> 01:26:55.680
You you man, you play where you practice.
01:26:56.079 --> 01:26:56.640
That's a fact.
01:26:56.880 --> 01:26:57.840
You play where you practice.
01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:00.159
Everybody like, but I I want to look like a star.
01:27:00.319 --> 01:27:02.319
You gonna look stupid as shit.
01:27:03.039 --> 01:27:11.039
If you ain't used to how the laughs come back to you and you experience it, yeah, you experiencing it for the first time during your special.
01:27:11.199 --> 01:27:12.000
Are you slow?
01:27:12.159 --> 01:27:12.479
Yeah.
01:27:12.720 --> 01:27:13.840
Have you lost your mind?
01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:14.239
Right.
01:27:14.399 --> 01:27:21.119
So I everything I did for the special, that's why I was so gung-ho about I'm telling y'all it's this good.
01:27:21.279 --> 01:27:24.000
I did all the work to make sure it was good.
01:27:24.159 --> 01:27:25.439
I it took me a year.
01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:27.279
I planned for that special for a year.
01:27:27.439 --> 01:27:29.279
Me and Royale scouted places.
01:27:29.439 --> 01:27:34.560
He was meeting me out on the road, running my set, taking notes.
01:27:34.720 --> 01:27:39.760
We going like I think people think you just you be like, I'm ready, and you grab a camera and you go.
01:27:39.920 --> 01:27:40.479
You can do that.
01:27:40.960 --> 01:27:42.800
And what you'll have is a recorded set.
01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:44.880
But you won't it won't be special.
01:27:45.119 --> 01:27:48.079
It won't be special, but you'll have a recorded set for sure.
01:27:48.239 --> 01:27:54.319
Because also, you gotta watch all of us do little things with our face, with our hands, or whatever.
01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:59.600
The person directing you gotta know when to push in, when to pull out, when.
01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:00.880
To go to the crowd.
01:28:01.039 --> 01:28:02.079
All that stuff matters.
01:28:02.159 --> 01:28:03.359
It's still a production.
01:28:04.479 --> 01:28:06.720
Yeah, it's not just you recording a set.
01:28:06.880 --> 01:28:09.279
I gotta know when you're gonna walk.
01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:11.199
When you're gonna, you know what I mean?
01:28:11.279 --> 01:28:12.720
When you're gonna use the stool.
01:28:12.800 --> 01:28:13.119
That's cool.
01:28:13.359 --> 01:28:14.960
If you're gonna use the all of that.
01:28:15.279 --> 01:28:15.920
Uncorded Mike.
01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:16.560
Uncorded Mike.
01:28:16.640 --> 01:28:17.199
It's so many different things.
01:28:17.359 --> 01:28:18.479
Yeah, uncorded Mike.
01:28:18.560 --> 01:28:22.720
Hey man, did you know you stick your hand in your pocket whenever you when you perform?
01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:26.159
Keep trying to do it without you can't do it.
01:28:26.319 --> 01:28:26.720
Cool.
01:28:26.960 --> 01:28:29.279
Hey, designer, don't put no pockets on this shit.
01:28:29.920 --> 01:28:31.359
Don't put no pockets on this shit.
01:28:31.840 --> 01:28:33.920
All that shit matters.
01:28:34.159 --> 01:28:35.279
All that shit matters.
01:28:35.359 --> 01:28:38.399
You gotta think about all this is your production.
01:28:38.960 --> 01:28:40.560
You gotta think of it like that.
01:28:40.720 --> 01:28:44.720
If you do not think it of it like that, you will have a recorded set.
01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:46.479
But you will not have a special.
01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:47.520
Me and a T.
01:28:48.079 --> 01:28:48.399
Oh.
01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:50.079
Oh, you niggas.
01:28:50.720 --> 01:28:51.760
Three words.
01:28:52.399 --> 01:28:52.800
Tell the people.
01:28:53.119 --> 01:28:53.359
Hold on.
01:28:53.600 --> 01:28:53.680
Listen.
01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:54.640
We're listening.
01:28:54.720 --> 01:28:55.520
Three words, bro.
01:28:55.680 --> 01:28:57.600
No, the audio people need to know what's happening.
01:28:57.840 --> 01:28:58.960
Um, what's going on?
01:28:59.039 --> 01:29:06.560
We sent, I just handed Ron a photo of him and his pops after a show.
01:29:07.359 --> 01:29:09.279
Uh uh.
01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:10.720
Oh man.
01:29:10.960 --> 01:29:11.520
What was you going?
01:29:11.840 --> 01:29:14.880
What what was that moment hugging your pops, man?
01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:19.359
My father had never even been on a plane before.
01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:21.520
Never even been on a plane before.
01:29:21.600 --> 01:29:23.439
He was diagnosed with cancer.
01:29:24.239 --> 01:29:27.600
Uh oh my God.
01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:30.399
So he he wasn't doing well.
01:29:30.640 --> 01:29:32.479
He didn't even have clothes for real.
01:29:33.520 --> 01:29:41.439
We flew, when he flew up to Chicago, I took him shopping and everything, but he was so much in pain, he couldn't even really try on the clothes.
01:29:41.520 --> 01:29:44.399
I had to help him put his shoes on and everything.
01:29:44.560 --> 01:29:49.039
But it was like nothing was gonna stop him from supporting me in that moment.
01:29:49.199 --> 01:29:51.039
Me and my mom wasn't even talking.
01:29:51.279 --> 01:29:53.199
And she wasn't, her and my dad wasn't talking.
01:29:53.359 --> 01:29:54.319
They were divorced.
01:29:54.479 --> 01:30:09.600
Both of them niggas is on a plane together coming to support their son because it the only thing that mattered to them was was that the the person that they created and they believed in and they sold all these seeds into is doing the thing that they love.
01:30:10.239 --> 01:30:20.399
It's the only man, I think sometimes people uh see my uh my criticism of my parents and they don't understand when I'm talking about these things.
01:30:20.640 --> 01:30:24.560
I know people go through stuff and nobody speaks on it.
01:30:24.720 --> 01:30:31.920
So I speak on it, and because I speak on it, people may think I think negatively of my parents, and I don't think negatively of my parents.
01:30:32.159 --> 01:30:34.399
I think negatively of some of their decisions.
01:30:34.640 --> 01:30:34.880
Right.
01:30:35.039 --> 01:30:35.760
You know what I mean?
01:30:35.840 --> 01:30:42.880
But I understand that they're human beings and I love them, and when it was and when it meant the most to me, they didn't even hesitate.
01:30:43.600 --> 01:30:46.960
All the things that they felt in them, they didn't even hesitate.
01:30:47.199 --> 01:30:49.119
And I'm talking about them in the special.
01:30:49.199 --> 01:30:56.159
I'm talking I'm on stage telling people I ain't talked to my mama in four years while she's looking at me.
01:30:56.319 --> 01:31:00.079
I'm telling my I'm telling people my dad had an inappropriate relationship with my mom.
01:31:00.159 --> 01:31:01.119
I look at this nigga like R.
01:31:01.279 --> 01:31:02.079
Kelly.
01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:13.279
While he's in the building and everybody, and then after the show, neither one of them went, even though it may hurt them to hear or whatever, it was I'm proud of you.
01:31:13.359 --> 01:31:15.439
It ain't I'm gonna make this about me.
01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:18.800
Meant the worst, it was always about me.
01:31:19.359 --> 01:31:21.600
Can't nobody tell me nothing about my parents, bro.
01:31:21.920 --> 01:31:22.479
That's beautiful, man.
01:31:22.640 --> 01:31:23.840
Can't nobody tell me.
01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:30.000
It was it was it I wanted it to be the greatest moment in of my life, and it and it and it was, man.
01:31:30.159 --> 01:31:31.520
It meant everything.
01:31:31.760 --> 01:31:32.720
It went everything.
01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:35.600
And I'm telling you, London, we boxing after this.
01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:37.920
There's no way.
01:31:38.319 --> 01:31:39.039
I ain't gonna hold you.
01:31:39.119 --> 01:31:41.359
We gonna jump this nigga because the optimum is supposed to be for y'all.
01:31:43.279 --> 01:31:46.640
This was about this is about go ahead and do it.
01:31:49.439 --> 01:31:49.920
Shit, man.
01:31:50.319 --> 01:31:51.439
Okay with shit, man.
01:31:51.520 --> 01:31:52.479
Uh we have a game.
01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:53.359
You ain't got no.
01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:54.159
I mean, we gotta.
01:31:54.960 --> 01:31:55.840
All right with shit.
01:31:56.000 --> 01:32:00.399
Uh all right, so uh this is a blind.
01:32:00.479 --> 01:32:03.039
Uh we in we in the game where we're wrapping up.
01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:08.800
This is a blind, uh, keep it, keep three, kill five.
01:32:09.039 --> 01:32:09.520
Woo!
01:32:10.159 --> 01:32:12.399
So you, so you ain't gonna know what's coming.
01:32:12.479 --> 01:32:12.720
I know.
01:32:12.960 --> 01:32:14.000
You didn't know we like these.
01:32:14.960 --> 01:32:15.359
Yeah.
01:32:15.600 --> 01:32:18.479
Keep three, cut five comedy specials.
01:32:21.920 --> 01:32:22.880
Number one.
01:32:23.920 --> 01:32:25.279
Bigger and blacker.
01:32:27.520 --> 01:32:32.960
I hate niggas smelling because you came by swinging.
01:32:33.279 --> 01:32:39.600
Yeah, because it's like strategically, I gotta keep it.
01:32:39.840 --> 01:32:40.800
I'm gonna keep it.
01:32:41.039 --> 01:32:41.439
All right.
01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:42.800
You only got two more keeps.
01:32:42.880 --> 01:32:43.199
I know.
01:32:43.359 --> 01:32:45.359
All right, about to hear a whole lot of cutting.
01:32:47.199 --> 01:32:49.119
Underrated never faded.
01:32:49.680 --> 01:32:50.479
It's cut.
01:32:50.640 --> 01:32:50.800
Okay.
01:32:51.359 --> 01:32:53.520
Possibly the funniest special ever in my mind.
01:32:54.000 --> 01:32:54.239
Okay.
01:32:54.399 --> 01:32:54.800
Yeah.
01:32:55.119 --> 01:32:56.079
Shout out to Mike Epps.
01:32:56.880 --> 01:33:04.560
Nigga, if you want to see a clinic and funny, a clinic, yeah, I might need security.
01:33:04.720 --> 01:33:05.680
I knew you were gonna say that.
01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:06.319
Cut it.
01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:09.279
And they all classic.
01:33:09.600 --> 01:33:10.319
They all classics.
01:33:10.399 --> 01:33:13.760
So yeah, when he started making flag, I was like, this nigga is only doing it.
01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:14.159
Wait.
01:33:14.640 --> 01:33:15.920
Sticks and stones.
01:33:16.239 --> 01:33:16.960
Keep.
01:33:17.359 --> 01:33:18.319
I love it.
01:33:18.800 --> 01:33:20.399
Live from sunset.
01:33:20.960 --> 01:33:21.439
Cut.
01:33:21.840 --> 01:33:23.439
I'ma tell you though.
01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:26.000
I had to cut that.
01:33:26.159 --> 01:33:28.239
I didn't get to experience it like everybody else did.
01:33:28.560 --> 01:33:28.720
That's okay.
01:33:29.119 --> 01:33:30.000
That's fair, that's fair.
01:33:30.479 --> 01:33:33.039
When I saw it, I thought it sucked.
01:33:33.359 --> 01:33:34.960
I'm gonna tell you why.
01:33:35.199 --> 01:33:37.039
Because I knew all the jokes already.
01:33:37.199 --> 01:33:41.760
Which means niggas have been stealing for prior for 30 years by the time it got to me.
01:33:41.920 --> 01:33:42.399
That's wild.
01:33:42.479 --> 01:33:42.640
Yeah.
01:33:42.800 --> 01:33:42.960
Yeah.
01:33:43.199 --> 01:33:43.600
That's wild.
01:33:43.760 --> 01:33:50.720
I couldn't even enjoy it because all you niggas in the 90s was telling them goddamn jokes and remixing them and everything.
01:33:50.960 --> 01:33:52.319
You dirty niggas.
01:33:53.840 --> 01:33:54.399
Yo, yo.
01:33:55.680 --> 01:33:57.199
Elephant in the room.
01:33:57.600 --> 01:33:58.239
It's over.
01:33:58.319 --> 01:33:59.119
That's the three cups.
01:34:06.399 --> 01:34:07.840
I'm cool with one of the cubs.
01:34:08.079 --> 01:34:11.119
Definitely, uh even if mine on there, nigga, you can crazy.
01:34:11.439 --> 01:34:14.720
Yep, because the one after that was definitely underrated.
01:34:19.119 --> 01:34:20.479
Hey, listen, man.
01:34:20.640 --> 01:34:22.720
I'm very proud of the work I did.
01:34:22.960 --> 01:34:24.479
But them three right there, nigga.
01:34:25.439 --> 01:34:28.079
We talked about three of the best five to ever do.
01:34:29.039 --> 01:34:36.000
The only argument I always have is bigger, blacker, better than Bring the Pain.
01:34:36.159 --> 01:34:36.800
Bring the pain.
01:34:36.880 --> 01:34:38.000
Yeah, bring the pain was.
01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:41.359
Bring the pain to me is just ruckus.
01:34:42.960 --> 01:34:44.560
I'm not talking about more on Chappelle, though.
01:34:44.640 --> 01:34:45.439
Sticks and Stones is my favorite.
01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:46.239
Sticks of Stones is the same.
01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:47.279
I think so.
01:34:47.439 --> 01:34:47.680
Me too.
01:34:48.720 --> 01:34:49.520
Final question, man.
01:34:49.600 --> 01:34:53.760
Um you are killing it in all avenues, man, uh, of what's going on, man.
01:34:53.920 --> 01:34:56.399
What does it look like specifically career-wise?
01:34:56.560 --> 01:34:58.399
What does killing it look like for you?
01:34:58.560 --> 01:35:01.199
Are you is it behind the camera, in front of the camera, more produce it?
01:35:01.439 --> 01:35:02.880
But what does it look like?
01:35:03.119 --> 01:35:05.359
I think this is what people need to.
01:35:05.439 --> 01:35:08.319
This is a conversation, not just for me.
01:35:08.720 --> 01:35:19.840
Every person who watches this, if you do not define what success looks like to you, you're gonna be out here winging it instead of killing it.
01:35:20.239 --> 01:35:32.640
The the the most important thing you can do to kill it is to really write down what and think about how would I feel if I didn't get this, but I got this.
01:35:33.600 --> 01:35:37.760
How would I feel if I got this and didn't get this?
01:35:37.920 --> 01:35:42.800
And you'll realize some of the little things mean more to you than some of the bigger things.
01:35:42.960 --> 01:35:47.039
And that's how some people get really big, but they not happy.
01:35:47.359 --> 01:35:47.520
Right.
01:35:47.760 --> 01:35:51.680
Because that was because you didn't write down what was meaningful to you.
01:35:52.399 --> 01:35:57.840
So for me, killing it, we go back and do that.
01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:08.319
You whenever you do that, uh keep three cut five, if it makes sense to have one of mine in there for every guest that you have, then I'm killing it.
01:36:08.560 --> 01:36:09.680
Then I'm doing a job.
01:36:09.840 --> 01:36:12.479
Everybody you name, Jamie Foxx, was killing it.
01:36:12.640 --> 01:36:14.880
Fucking Mike Epps was killing it.
01:36:15.119 --> 01:36:17.920
Patrice O'Neill, uh Martin Lawrence.
01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:19.119
Yeah, Jamie, yeah.
01:36:19.359 --> 01:36:22.880
Yeah, you named uh Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock.
01:36:22.960 --> 01:36:25.199
Those are, I believe that was the eight that you named, right?
01:36:25.439 --> 01:36:26.640
I meant to say Illen and Philly, too.
01:36:27.119 --> 01:36:27.840
Illan and Philly.
01:36:27.920 --> 01:36:28.960
So shout out to Tommy Davidson.
01:36:29.760 --> 01:36:34.079
And and and I knew the names of all these people based off the name of the special.
01:36:34.239 --> 01:36:35.520
That's killing it.
01:36:35.680 --> 01:36:41.920
To me, I want when people hear underrated or whatever it is that I name any of my work, and niggas go, that's Ryan Davis.
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Niggas who do the art are like, they're like, what are you talking about?
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You just named a masterpiece.
01:36:46.800 --> 01:36:49.760
Oh, Live from Sunset Strip, that's what you named for Richard Pryor.
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You ain't when you ain't gotta even say who did it, killing it.
01:36:54.880 --> 01:36:57.920
And and stand up is what I care about the most.
01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:00.880
So that's the thing that I want to be killing it in.
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And then when it comes to acting behind the screen and create, I just want to make dope shit with people I respect.
01:37:06.399 --> 01:37:06.800
That's it.
01:37:06.960 --> 01:37:07.279
That's it.
01:37:07.439 --> 01:37:08.800
I just want to make dope shit with people.
01:37:09.119 --> 01:37:10.319
I don't need no Oscars.
01:37:10.399 --> 01:37:11.600
I don't need no Emmys.
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I don't need nigga, Friday ain't never getting no Oscar, no Emmy, no nothing.
01:37:15.520 --> 01:37:16.800
Them niggas did something special.
01:37:17.279 --> 01:37:17.439
Special.
01:37:17.760 --> 01:37:18.880
They did something special.
01:37:19.039 --> 01:37:23.039
They made careers for like 15 people with one project.
01:37:23.199 --> 01:37:23.600
Yep.
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That's killing it.
01:37:25.359 --> 01:37:30.319
That's what man, I I want, I want more of us to do that.
01:37:30.800 --> 01:37:38.479
If I get to do that, if I get to make dope shit with other dope artists and it lasts forever, I that's the thing.
01:37:38.640 --> 01:37:48.319
I just want to create shit that when I'm long gone, I want people to be like, I want people to go to their kids and be like, hey, nigga, can't let you go into school and not see this.
01:37:48.800 --> 01:37:51.039
They're gonna take your card away if you don't know this.
01:37:51.199 --> 01:37:52.960
That I want to make that type of stuff.
01:37:53.359 --> 01:37:54.000
Impact is dope.
01:37:54.319 --> 01:37:55.039
Impact, baby.
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Yeah.
01:37:55.680 --> 01:37:56.079
We did it.
01:37:56.319 --> 01:37:56.960
Hey, we did it.
01:37:57.039 --> 01:38:00.560
Hey, let people know where they can find you at any projects you got coming at.
01:38:00.800 --> 01:38:01.279
Yes.
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Um, I'm about to shoot the second special.
01:38:04.800 --> 01:38:07.119
Um, really looking forward to that.
01:38:07.279 --> 01:38:10.479
Gotta lose some weight first, but yeah, gotta do that.
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Uh I'm on tour right now.
01:38:13.279 --> 01:38:18.399
Uh, it's called the Prove It Tour because uh Aries Spears hung me out the dry.
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Uh said I was said I said I was better than so many people that people are like, well, it's a nigga like that.
01:38:25.119 --> 01:38:26.239
I was like, okay, I'll prove it.
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So I'm on.
01:38:27.039 --> 01:38:28.960
That's what I'm that's the tour I'm on.
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Uh you follow me at Ryan, Ryan Davis comedian or Ryan Davis comedy into anything, I'll come up.
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Uh uh, you just follow me there, man, and just keep up with what I'm doing, you know?
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And I'm gonna just try to bring you the best stuff that I can.
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Make sure you come see me live, though.
01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:48.079
There's nothing better than my live show is that you can get from me.
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My live show is what I I'll I'll bet on that any day.
01:38:51.359 --> 01:38:52.399
Hey, that's a fact, man.
01:38:52.560 --> 01:38:52.880
It is.
01:38:53.039 --> 01:38:55.039
Hey, man, uh, this has been an amazing episode.
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One of my favorites.
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Uh appreciate y'all watching.
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Make sure you like, comment, subscribe.
01:39:01.199 --> 01:39:02.720
Uh, appreciate you sharing the clips.
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Keep doing that.
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Uh, let us know your favorite moments.
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What you took away from this conversation today.
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Let us let us know in the comment section.
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And uh, yeah, man, we've been your host, Justin Hyas.
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Lyndon Brown.
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We did it, baby.