Katie Morgan - Lights, Cameras, Aces

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This episode is brought to you by Tina's vodka.
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Hi, my name's Katie Morgan. I'm with the Las Vegas Asus. I'm the creative director of
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storytelling and this is her table. Now you see her.
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You are magnificent!
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Welcome to her table, the podcast that shines a spotlight on the badass women who are redefining
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the game. Join host Kate Foley and Megan Martinez as Payon Locke, the secrets of success
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in the brightest female pioneers in the industry. What's up everyone? Welcome back to her table.
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We are so excited to be in our third set in Las Vegas. We're at Summer League and now we're here
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and it is absolutely amazing. We are so excited to welcome in our guest today, Katie Morgan.
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She is the creative director for the Las Vegas Asus. I can't wait to see. I wonder if she brought
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her ring. They are two-time WNBA champions. She is responsible for the Asus versus
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Everybody campaign, which is spot on because they are killing the game not only on the court,
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but off the court. Katie Morgan has worked with the Seattle storm. She's worked in MLB.
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She actually interned starting at 26 I heard. I want to know where she started and how she got
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where she is. Let's welcome Katie Morgan to her table.
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Katie, I'm so excited we have you here today. Welcome to our third edition of a set
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for her table. This is a new one. We've been at Las Vegas Summer League for the last two days
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and now we're here in our new studios that up in Las Vegas. Welcome. First of all, I am so honored
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to be here. You have no idea what you're doing is just incredible. I'm really honored to be here.
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I need them to turn the lights down. I need them to do something because this rock on your hand
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is blinding all of us. Please tell us what this is. I need one and can I get one?
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Okay, look, I know you want to touch it. Okay, so I want to listen. This is the back-to-back championship
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world championship ring for the Las Vegas Aces. Oh my god. Mark Davis is the best owner and not
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only did he buy the players and the coaching staff this ring, he also bought the entire staff this
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ring. You have to ensure that. Oh, yeah. I want to stay farm and I'm pretty. Is it security guard outside
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for you or for this? I need to know. Let's just say my first one is in a lock box and this one,
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I thought I'd bring it to the show just so you could see how amazing this is powerful. It's heavy,
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it's powerful. I feel like you could totally knock four or five teeth out with this if you needed to.
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So this is so beautiful. Yeah, it's really nice touch and you can see the two
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championship, the trophies are on the front of it. Do you wear this to like date night? Heck no.
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Okay, I'm just wondering because that would be super intimidating. I don't even want to wear it in
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the street because yeah, I'm afraid I get wet. Oh, no, I can't wear that in the street. And if you
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lost it, you would be just devastated. Oh, this is wild. It like fits me perfectly. I don't know.
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I already have one so you can have that one. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. She's like, yeah, listen here,
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Megan, give it back. How incredible. I know. How inspiring too for like young woman to see that like
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you too can sorry. Yeah, you know, bangs it again. I know I could go. I'm like, yeah,
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I'm like, it's a church. It's a church. It's a church. It's a church. Okay.
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I just see it. It's incredible though. But yeah, that's amazing. And that's a good start too. Yeah.
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Well, while you're here today, well, and what's crazy, I've been in sports my entire life. Thank you.
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How long have you been working on that? Yeah. Well, you know, I started playing softball as a very
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young girl, but then after I graduated from college, I've been in sports my entire life. I mean,
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I've been surrounded about it around with it. And my father was a Hall of Fame baseball coach,
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my brother played collegiate golf and my mom taught physical education. So it was kind of in the
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stars for me. But yeah, I mean, I've been on so many teams and I've never won a ring. And then I come
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to Vegas and I've won two back-to-back rings. That's called destiny. That's divine intervention from
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yeah, whatever god you believe it. Yeah, absolutely. I love it. It's we we had a guest yesterday on that
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was talking about angel numbers because she got a tattoo. It was like two to two. And I was like,
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okay, what is this? And she goes, it just means you're exactly where you're supposed to be in this
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exact moment of time. And you have to trust that. Yeah. How incredible is that for you to have been
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through so much in your career? Yeah. To then be where you are. Did you ever have moments where you
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were like, what am I doing? And why? Yeah, I don't know. Like my angel numbers are three three three.
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Who are those people? Well, I'm not really sure. I just know that it's really freaking awesome. Did you
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I did you pick them or those like actual? No, so what's crazy is people will tell you they'll see it
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on clocks or they'll see it on license plates or they'll see it on a billboard. And ones are really
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spiritual. Threes are really spiritual. I think honestly, threes are about creativity and being in
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your bag. And but yeah, I mean, it's crazy. I think a lot of people will tell you some of the elite
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athletes and the greats at what they do probably always dreamt about it. But for me, I just was kind of like,
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oh, that's fun. I think I'll do that. Or I just kind of go where someone tells me like I was telling
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Megan earlier how I got into sports is so incredibly cool. So I played at KU as softball players,
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a short stop. Graduated from there went to University of Alabama. Was kind of a grad assistant coach
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manager for Pat Murphy. And I think I coached there for three years. We ended up going to the college
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world series. And I just told Pat, I'm like, Pat, I'm done. I don't I don't want to work with kids.
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I want to go. I want to get into film. I want to be a director. I'm going to go to LA. Now,
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meanwhile, I grew up. My mom was the first woman in Oklahoma to buy a camcorder and make a business
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out of it. So I was editing in junior high in high school. I would take the Barbara Walter specials.
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And I would edit Barbara out. And I would edit myself asking the questions to like a Julia Roberts
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or Mel Gibson. I need to see these clips. Yeah, please.
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I'm doing that because that's amazing. They were amazing. So when I went to KU, I wanted to be in
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sports broadcasting. They didn't have that. They had theater. So I chose education. So fast forward,
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Pat Murphy was like, listen, Katie, you're never going to make it in LA. You've never taken a class
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as a director. Why don't you, we'll call this friend of mine, Amy Leoni. I love her to death.
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She was working for Dick Evertsaw and NBC. She was high exec. She's now with Fox Sports. She's the VP
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of talent. And she was incredible. I nannied for her. I love her children, Jay and Claire. And
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during the weekends, she got me a job at NBC Sports Weekend Update with a modern shot in Hannah
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Storm. And that's kind of how I started my career. So it was pretty incredible. So it was just kind of,
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I led wherever the connection was. And you know, sometimes it's like, I bet both of you,
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when you don't even have to put a resume out at this point. Like it's just the work that you've done.
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People talk about you and you just get passed around. Like this is like one of the most amazing
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people you need to work with this person, right? Yeah, it's interesting because now we're seeing
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the uptrend, right? A lot of universities there. There are classes to be a film director. There's
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classes to be in specific agent. There's classes to be on air talent before it was just all very
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generic. And so now you're seeing the sports world shift and really allow people to get that experience
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because I'm a big believer in experience, whether it's good or bad, big or small, experience is
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really what is going to get you the correct opportunities. None. Did I take the right class? Did I
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graduate with 5.6 GPA? Like what it is? Are you a people person? Some people are? Some people aren't.
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And the world and especially in sports, all of them are needed. It's just trying to find how to get
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there. You said you majored in education. Yeah. Which is fantastic. I mean, I majored in kinesiology.
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Like what are we doing? But it wasn't available. And now that it is, and I say to all these young people
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all the time, you have so many more opportunities in front of you than I had. Yeah. Take them. Use them.
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Try them. What would you say to like the young girls that are hearing your story here? Right?
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I start majored in education. I opened the doors. I didn't look for the door to open. I just kept
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walking through them as they open is what your story kind of really sounds like. Yeah. Well, I mean,
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it's also like you said, there's so many more opportunities. I mean, we're talking, you know, I
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graduated 96 from college. I left Alabama 2000. I mean, I started at 26 years of age.
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As an intern for NBC sports. I mean, do you know how old that is? Yeah. I mean, it's crazy. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. And so what when young women and men come to me and they say, Hey, I want to be in sports
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business. What's going to make me stand out? I know this sounds crazy. But the first thing I say is,
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are you dating someone? I say that because when you get into this business, you have to make a lot
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of sacrifice. You're working weekends, you're working nights. Maybe you have three hours a day for
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yourself. And then you have to give to someone else. So I always say, you know, how important is your
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relationship? Because that person is going to have to love you unconditionally. They're going to
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have to support you. They're going to have to want you to win and be your greatest. And I've lost a
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lot of partners through sports just because, you know, and then once someone says, I want you to
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follow your dream. I want you to love your passion. Then as a person doing that, you can then give back
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more to that person. Like you want to give because it's like, you know, so you're like, you get it.
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Yeah. Yeah. And then the other thing I say is, are you willing to be the first one in the doors
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and the last one out? Because people want to see that you're loyal, that you're responsible,
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and that you care. And I mean, that was a good three years of my career was just always showing that
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I'm going to show up on time. I'm going to do my job and I'm going to be here and I'm going to see it
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through. That's really all it is really. And then about connections and I was talking about
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manifestation. Like I manifest so much. It's the law of attraction. I go into everything that I do.
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And I say, I'm going to kill this. Like who wouldn't want me? Do you know what I mean? So
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and I just, I just believe in that. And so and my mom and dad raised me that way. I mean, my mom
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is my biggest fan. She watches everything. It's probably why we have thousands of like YouTube clicks
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and Instagram clicks because all in Morgan is in there, you know, watch this. She'll put it on Facebook
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with her. She's a come watch live next time. I have to do an episode. She would have mom in here,
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which would be like living her best life. Yeah. She would lie your mother of that. Come on. We're bringing
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her in. She loves both of you. I mean, she would be in here. She's like, give me a recliner. Let's go.
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That's amazing. Well, you're a journey. We were talking about this earlier. You worked with the
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MLB NBC. You worked in many different fields and it comes with sports. Now you're working in MLB
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that's male dominated, even like the Olympics. I mean, it just has that male dominated, like
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connotation with like sports in general. But now you've shifted to the WNBA and you're working with
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the woman's organization. How have you seen the difference in leadership? Just pretty much in
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anything. Is there a huge difference? Oh, there's such a huge difference. And I'm so glad you asked
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that because back in the day when I was coming into a male dominated field, I felt like I always had
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to apologize. I don't know why. But I was always saying I was sorry for some reason. And then also,
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I felt like I had to speak my voice if I had an idea. I had to say it four or five times before
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it registered. And I also felt like at MLB, if I wasn't playing pickup basketball with the executive
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director, then I wasn't going to leapfrog. I had so many young guys that came in that leapfrog me,
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even though I knew I was more talented. And now you come into this world where there are so many
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women in power. And I kind of, it's like WNBA, I hear about all these women that played the alumni
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and how they're pioneers. And they put the league on their backs. So now a Caitlin Clark and Angel
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Reese can benefit from this. And it's kind of like the women of my age, what we did, we kind of broke
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the doors open and allowed women to have these opportunities. So, you know, and another great thing
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that I want to point out that which I really love working for the Las Vegas Ases is that not only do
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we have women in power, but we brought back our alumni. So Jennifer A.Z. is chief business of
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development. Natalie Williams is our general manager. Natalie Williams was an Olympian,
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a basketball Olympian. She's Hall of Famer. She played with our Utah stars franchise.
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Jennifer A.Z. and Olympian, one, you know, a championship at Stanford. She was with our Utah
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on our San Antonio stars franchise. So it's really awesome just to see that. I mean, it's important
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because who knows the W better than the alumni that built it? What I think that's the culture,
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shift generally in sports right now is everybody's getting younger. I think we've learned throughout
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this show so much of art. Is it not a, like we're just not a tale about the W and the roles. Like,
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they have to go to school for so many years. Yeah. In the NBA, it's, you can be 18 years old and go
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in, but for women, there's still, it's still different. You know, for you at the Ases, one of the
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really cool things I love about your job that's just would be my dream. I love storytelling.
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Because all of these people are people. Yeah. And who are they? And we've seen lately,
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the shift that has gone on in being able to express yourself as you walk in to arenas. And we've
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seen it on the male side of things. I mean, there's so much content of like, here's the hockey team.
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Here's the base. We'll see. Now we're seeing the W NBA fits. Get the justice they deserve.
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And I think it's so special because they're not just an athlete. They're a person and they bring
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their kids and it becomes this thing. Why do you think that shift is starting to take hold? I mean,
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it's from a franchise. It's booming. But globally, people are paying attention to that. Yeah. I think
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it's just we have media now. We have television. We have an audience that loves these women and want
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to pour their time into them. And, you know, this is not like all of a sudden we have tunnel fits.
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I mean, this has been happening in the late 90s, early 2000s. We've had a lot of WNBA players who
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have now become fashion stylists. And I think right now because there's such a big eye on this,
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you're also seeing women who care about other women and they're like, man, you should not only
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play good. You should look good. So, you know, let's find you a stylist. And what's so great about
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these tunnel fits is that you're seeing everybody's personality. And our team has the biggest
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personalities. So many. So many. So we've got a couple stylists for the teams. But one, I'm going to go
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interview her after this. Amadi Brooks, she's a stylist for Asia Wilson, Sydney Colson and Jackie
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Young. And what's so great about that, you're talking about three totally different personalities.
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And she fits them so great. I mean, it's just it's it's amazing. And she also went on Asia Wilson's
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book tour for Dear Black Girls. So, and Time Magazine and the White House, you know, so you get all
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these different flavors and colors. And it's just great. I love it. And I love the fact that it's
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always women supporting other women. The fact that she's a woman stylist and she's going out and helping
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these WNBA players look good, feel good. We love that. Yeah. When it comes to the WNBA, what have you
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seen when you're you know, when you're when you're working with them and you're looking at Angel Reister,
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looking at Caitlin Clark, where have you seen the difference from where it is today compared to five,
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10 years ago? And where do you see it heading in like the next 10 years? Yeah. Well, oh god, this is,
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you know, Caitlin Clark, boy, the media has ran with her and I honestly, she's amazing. And what she has
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done, I think my takeaway from Angel Rees and Caitlin Clark, but specifically Caitlin, is that she has
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brought a whole set of eyeballs like a whole set of new fans. We're having sell out crowds. I mean,
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that's amazing. We call it the Caitlin Clark effect. You know, she's got pajamas now. I mean, it's crazy.
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But the beautiful thing about Caitlin Clark and I don't want anybody to get this twisted because
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the W, the ladies that play in the W are very grateful to Caitlin. I have not heard one person say
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on that Caitlin Clark, you know, the way that the media is portraying that. It is it is a clickbait type of
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thing, but people are really glad that she's here. But the thing about Caitlin that I love so much
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is that the features that I tell like, first of all, Kate Martin is the thing too. I mean, everybody
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is all about Kate Martin because she's Iowa, you know, Caitlin's best friend, but I'll go on to YouTube
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and I'll read some of the comments. And they're like, I came here because of Caitlin, but now I'm a
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Jackie young fan. And that is it. That is what Caitlin Clark is doing because everybody that Caitlin Clark
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plays, they're also the fans will see the players on the other team. And they're like, oh, wow. Asia,
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Asia Wilson. Oh, yeah, she's an MVP. You know what I mean? So it's so incredible that finally,
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we have somebody that's going to put, you know, new fans into the seats. I love it. It's a win-win.
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It really is. We love seeing the, like, I saw a lot of articles on that women's basketball games
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are being sold out more than NBA games. And I'm just like, let's go. I'm here for it. I love it.
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Well, I mean, even in college, you know, women's college games were outperforming the men's college
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games. So I mean, the women are having a movement right now, whether it's in basketball, soccer,
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tennis, whatever. And I'm so glad that I'm here at this time. Do you think Team USA missed
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not having her on the Olympic team? You know, gosh, there's, there's
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because I'm torn on it. I'll be honest with you. I get a lot of visibility. Yeah. But I also get it
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on stature. So it's, it's a, you're never going to get it right. But I do think that as you try
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and continue to grow the visibility for basketball, it was probably messaged wrong. Yeah.
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I would have probably chosen a different path. I had a message why she wasn't on it or a way we
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could include her. Yeah. Or, or anyone else. But I, but I think not having anything turn people like,
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well, you, we don't, we're not going to watch them. Because the goal is to get viewership. The goal
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is to get fans and engagement. And you're taking something off, you know, for whatever their choice was.
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I don't know. So I'm torn. I want to get your take on like, well, if you think about it,
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people are always going to watch the Olympics. Yeah. And we're probably going to win the gold.
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I mean, I just, you know, it's, we've done it seven times, I believe. And, and you know, we have a great
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opportunity to do that again. And so I don't necessarily know if, if we need like, we're dying for
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viewership. But if you take it from this perspective, Caitlin Clark is going to have a very long
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career in the W. She's going to make many Olympic teams. Yeah. I believe, and this is just my opinion,
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that USA basketball is built on loyalty and paying your dues. I agree with you. So I, I do believe
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that that is why they didn't take Caitlin. And I mean, Caitlin, yeah, she's doing incredible things.
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I mean, she's breaking records. She's finding her rhythm. The team is starting to win and gel. And
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that's wonderful. But I also think she needs a break. I think it would be nice for her to have a,
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you know, time to spend with the team and just practice and, and stuff like that. But, um, yeah, I mean,
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I don't know. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a win. I mean, you don't, yeah, it's a good way.
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I really can't speak upon this. Yeah. I didn't get both sides. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, people, you know, people are going to be like, okay, she's on the team. And then why isn't she
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playing enough? Like the, the way social media can either be a positive impact or a negative impact
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really is the finest line in the sand because it can go off one deep end or off another deep end.
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And I think the neutral deep end is we're going to do nothing. Yeah. And not, you know what I mean? And
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not pick a side. Yeah. And it is what it is. I want to get, talk to you about the content you're
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creating. Yeah. Yeah. Because I think it's so special. And you guys really at the ACEs are setting the
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bar of, of content. Not only is that a testament to you and the vision and storytelling, it's also a
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testament to the women on that team that allow themselves to be vulnerable and trust you to tell that
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story. Yeah. How are you driving that within the organization? Oh my gosh. Well, first of all, I just
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have to give a big shout out to our creative and social team. Chris, he's our VP of social and he
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has just knocked it out of the park. And he's been doing this since 2018. And I believe with myself
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coming in and I have a team, I have a creative producer and a media coordinator cinematographer. And he
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also has a team. But that team evolved because the two of us working together. I think Iron Sharpen's
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Iron and I think we bring the best out of each other. But creatively, I just feel like storytelling,
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that is the key. That is the key to viewership. I think Caitlin Clark has brought in a lot of people.
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Now how do we keep them? How do we keep them? And that is storytelling. And I will tell you, Chris did
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a really great job of showcasing Sydney Colson. She's a veteran. She is funny. She has her own show
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with Teresa Plasons. It's called the Sid and T P show. All of that came about because Chris
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knew trends. He knew how to showcase her because Sydney's been doing this on every team she's been on
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in the W. It's just now she has a platform and she has a viewership. And so then when you start
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getting all these fans because we're winning and they love the personalities on our team,
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we have to storytell because we want the fans to feel like they know these players that they connect
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with them. They root for them. I mean, that's what I learned from NBC. I mean, you know, you go into
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the Olympics. You don't know any of the players. They do the vignettes and now you're a fan of somebody.
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You have someone to root for. Yeah. So, and you know, last year it was about telling their origin
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stories. This year it's going in deeper. It's behind the scenes of basketball and I did a really
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great feature on Asia. It was her dear black girls feature. And it really just showcased, you know,
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how special she is and why she wrote the book and how important it was for a black woman to write a
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book in a W NBA league that is 80% 90% black and brown faces. And for most of the girls to,
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young black girls to see that, you know, you can be whatever you want to be. You know, like you said,
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if you can see her, you can be her 100% and, and you know, I did before the season started, I did a
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one hour documentary called Aces versus Everybody. Yes. I mean, last year was incredible. The first
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year we won it was really great. But the second year, the fact of all the drama that happened with
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Becky Hammond's suspension to losing one of our players, you know, or a couple of our players to
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injury, then game four going up against this amazing team New York Liberty. We lose two of our
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starters and we still pull it off. I mean, it was incredible. And we did that documentary. I mean,
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we've had 200,000 viewers that had a YouTube premiere. People were on fire about it. And that's
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just me two and a half months sitting at a desk editing. Yeah. But I mean, I love storytelling. I love
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it too, because like the passion your eyes when you're talking about it and like it's such a rewarding
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thing that happens. Yeah. Excuse me. But for you, what do you think is the biggest challenge
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of being in your role? Yeah. Because it's, I think there's only you, like you're the only one of the
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WMBA, right? As a creative director. Yeah. So I'm the only full-time staff full-time staff storyteller.
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And I have two great people that work with me, Tavy Young Carter and Amber Del Rio. We actually,
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Amber, Amber, we got from Chicago Sky, Tavy on. He was a grad student from UNLV. And they are just,
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I mean, it's honestly what I love to have 10 people on staff, of course, but this is the WMBA. We do
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not have the resources for it. But I think the biggest challenge for me when I came here,
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the players are torn. They're taken in different directions. They're dealing with their
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agent. They're dealing with sponsorship. They're doing zoom interviews. They're, you know, all these
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things. So it's really hard when I came in, nobody was doing this to sit them down and say,
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I need 45 minutes of your time. They're like, they'll come in there like, okay, is this 10 minutes? I'm
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like, no, I'm doing that. 15 minutes. Feature on you. I need 45 minutes. I mean, 10 minutes is going to
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get me through two questions. And I think the buy-in media does a really good job of like making them
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not trust you because, oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I mean, we've got great media out there,
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but then we've got media that really twists their words. So the trust factor was so hard. And after
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year one, once they saw what I was doing and how I have a heart for them, and I'm going to protect
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them. And this is about empowering and elevating them. That's it. Once they saw that, they're like, oh,
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you need me for an hour. I mean, as you'll sit down with us for an hour and a half just to do an
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interview. And I mean, talk about that's a woman who does not have a lot of time. Yeah. So I think it was
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just the trust and the buy-in that was, but another thing that's hard is just getting them all to sit
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down and have time for them. I mean, they're on the road. They're tired. You know, and then kind of
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in my head, I learned this for Major League Baseball. I kind of know what I'm going to do for the entire
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year. So I will bring in everybody and interview them on like 10 different topics. And then I don't
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never have to sit them down again. And I think they appreciate that too because I'm not constantly
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pulling them in. So I think it's about educating them too about the process. That's one of the things that
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you know, especially for me from the agent side is getting them to understand there's the game of
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basketball and the business of basketball. Exactly. And they are not one in the same, but they both
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require their co-dependent. Yeah. One cannot survive without the other. And getting them to
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understand, especially in heightened points in their career, that this is what it's going to take.
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And what you're going to have to give. And it's really hard. Some athletes are like, I don't care.
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I don't want to give. I don't want to talk. I don't want to nothing. And it's like, it's not what
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you sign up for. And you talked earlier about the sacrifices. I mean, this job, we say all the time,
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this job is like a whole relationship itself. It is a commitment. And you have to be willing to
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know. And if you're going to sign up for it, this is what it's going to take. How do you with your
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vets? And I think, you know, we're going to have you back. But like, how do you get, I think it's
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interesting because in the W, you can get drafted and you can get cut within the same month,
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which is different than most male sports, which is you have guaranteed, non-guaranteed, things
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like that. How do you find the culture really embrace these rookies? And immediately, because you're
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trying to pump content in two weeks, not in four months or five months, right? So you have to really
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quick gain their trust, create the content, kick it out to then gather the fan to follow along for
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the season. How do you manage and navigate that, not knowing who your content is going to be with?
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Until two weeks before. So do you lose your mind? I would just be like, oh my god, I don't know what to do.
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So tough because we bring in, I mean, I don't know, like 16, 17 players and there's only room for 11 or
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12 players. So it's kind of like Russian roulette. So what I do is I just interview all the players,
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like the vets and the coaches about our rookies and whoever and I'll do, I'll act as if every one of
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them are staying. I'll reach out to their college. I'll get the WNBA draft. I'll get all that footage,
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so we're ready to go. And there were a couple players that I had so much great footage on. I couldn't
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wait to tell the story, but then they're let go. And it's heartbreaking and you wish them the best.
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And I think that's why the expansion is so important. We have to have expansion of the league. So
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because we've got all these talented players. But Kate Martin, she stayed. She was one of the rookies
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that made it. And we had such a fun time. And what's amazing is that everybody in a feature,
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like people will say, where's Kate Martin? It's like, well, this is a feature about Kia Stokes rehab.
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So I don't think Kate Martin is in this. They watch the Aces versus everybody documentary. And
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they're like, why didn't we say Kate Martin? Well, Kate was still playing at Iowa.
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So I mean, the hands are crazy. But yeah, but so you just go ahead and you do the extra work.
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And then whoever stays, you're like, this is great. And we're going to go with it.
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And but yeah, I mean, we've had plenty of players that come in during the first part of the season.
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And they stay with us for three weeks. And then we let them go. And it's really sad because you're
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talking about some of the most amazing, talented, wonderful people. I mean, we had a couple players that
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came in and their culture builders, their wonderful players, but we had to let them go.
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You know, because we want to win a championship. And we have to find the right players that
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gel and that are going to get us to that three-peat because I don't know if you've watched any of the
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league or what's going on. It is hard as hell this hard in them streets. Oh my god. I mean, because
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everybody has, I mean, I think the first year Becky Hammond was like, I knew we were going to win
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because Becky brought in this new energy WNBA energy. It was fast. It was fun. And then the second
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year, it was harder because teams were being built to beat us. And then the third year, oh my,
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this season, everybody's good. Everybody's coming for you. Everybody's good. So I think that's why all
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the fans were like, what's happening with the Aces? Well, first of all, Chelsea Gray has been out.
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And this is really exciting. Talk about Byann. I talked to Chelsea Gray after she was injured. And I said,
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I want to do a one-hour documentary on your rehab and coming back onto the court and trying to get
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the three-peat. And she was like, let's do it. And so for six months, Tavion's been filming her. And
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I'm about to get on a call with her to talk about getting on the same creative page and what we want to
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do with this. But it's going to take me about a month and a half to edit. I'm going to shut out
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Jadley English, her agent, because that's all I love. I love Jad. She gets it. She educates her players
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on what it's going to take. So there's no push and pull. There's no push back from the player or the
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agent. She understands the business. And I think so many agents don't. And I think that's what helps
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build a really fantastic core player. When they can respect the roles, every single person has to play.
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In order to make that franchise successful. And it's a testament to not only her love for the game,
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but her love for her clients. And their success on and off the court. So I want to ask you a question
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that you talked about, fits. And we're going to have to wrap this episode up. Yeah. Because you got
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more important things to do than be here in our cool studio. Yeah. So I actually like it. I can stay here forever.
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She wants to just get what you're all that. I know. Can I take this chair back to the
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I don't want to go in. She's going to be like, I just want to sit here and go in and relax.
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What is your fit for success? Because you're our powerful woman. You're in a space where you
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like to be behind the camera. We got you in front of the camera today. But when you need to walk
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into somewhere and own a room, because I'm all about presence, energy, you can own something
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with saying nothing. Yeah. What does that fit look like for you? Well, it's a blazer. I mean,
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I'm wearing it right now because I just feel like it goes with everything. You can dump it down.
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You can fancy it up. And I just feel better with a blazer and then like a cute little top
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underneath or something like that. But yeah, I mean, I'm not a very fashion forward person because
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you said I'm behind the camera. So nobody ever sees me. But the blazer, I mean, yeah. You mean
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business? When it's on? Yeah. Yeah. When you get the hoodie on? Yeah. What happens?
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Hey, nobody want to see me with a hoodie. Okay. No, no, I never do hoodies. I'm gonna leave that
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with Becky Hamish. Becky can keep that. Okay, we have to ask Becky. What's the secret? We're gonna have
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her on here. We're gonna say Katie wants to know what's this secret in this hoodie? We need to know.
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It's called Moodyda. Moody? Oh, it's a name. Yeah, it's a name for it. Is it the same one or like
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in multiple colors? It's a joke. Moodyda is about being happy for other success. And so I told her
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that. She told the team that and then the whole media ran with it. So you know, it's it's Moodyda.
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Moodyda. Ag Moodyda. Love it. Maybe we'll have her on and we'll all wear exactly what she wears.
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That would totally mind trip her. That would be great. We're all doing okay. We're all looking like you.
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Tell us about Moodyda. Why do we why do we feel so good right now? And this? Well, I'm so excited
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because Good American, our partner is gonna have you come over to the store. They are all about,
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they just launched a campaign with Angel Reese. They have a 36-inch in-scene, which is beautiful for
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all these long-legged beauty girls, tall girls, but they're everything in between, but they have some
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fantastic blazers and some fantastic denim. So we're gonna send you over to the store and let you
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get fit for success over there and we expect you to post and because you don't post post to picture
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because I want to see this new fit for success. So about to be that powerful moment. We're gonna be
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like we did that. That would be the only time. It will be you. All the credit goes to. No, please.
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We're just here. We're just here. I'm so happy you're on the show. You're fantastic. You are just
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an amazing energy. You brought the tone out for me today. I love your passion for storytelling
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because it is truly an underserved talent in this world. I would say YouTube was a place where
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videos went to die, but now we have resurrected YouTube. Yes. So definitely go to Las Vegas
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Aces YouTube and all our stories are on there and you can support us and then of course we have
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the great Instagram account and of course Twitter and all that stuff. I can't wait for her. I feel
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like she's gonna have some new EPs. I think it would be really cool to have your vets E.P. or Rookie.
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Oh yes. That would be kind of cool to teach that because so many people want to. Everybody thinks
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they're content creator. When you get your Rookie is let a vet E.P. it. And that way they can learn
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about them too, but it's also like that mentor thing. But they also get to learn your business because
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people need to know how hard it is to do your job. It's not easy. It's hard. I mean, I, we do a show called
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In The Pain. I promise I'll wrap this up. We do a show called In The Pain. It's a 30 minute
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kind of specialty show on Fox and Silver State. And I literally stayed up 24 hours to make sure
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that got to air. I mean 24 hours of editing. Yeah. So I mean it's crazy. People when they don't see
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you, they're like, oh wait a show up at work. It's like, well, yeah. But you do know. It's your old
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team. I was getting a meditine for just vlog yourself. And when next time someone says that,
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do you just send them 24 hours of clips and be like, when you're bored? Just because you think I do
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nothing. Enjoy that. Right. Okay. We want our fans to get to know a little bit about you. So Tina,
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and we're gonna send you home with some Tina's bod. Because so when you're editing for 24 hours,
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I'll just put myself right out. You know, we just when it's done, that can be your, it's your goal.
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I get done. And then I get Tina. We're gonna have you answer the Tina's question today. Okay. No
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promises. What's in here? I hope I don't get that one question. I like them. Oh wait a minute.
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You're gonna have to read it because I don't have my glasses. Okay. Okay. Okay. Well,
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then you're really trusting me that what I'm gonna ask you is that would be a good one here. That
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would be a good one. Okay. This is a cheating one. Okay. So that one wasn't good enough. No,
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it wasn't deep enough. Oh, okay. I wanted to be deeper. Okay. Do you prefer to cook at home
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or to eat out? And why? Oh, cook at home. Because I'm 50. I mean, it's my health. Okay. Like,
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I want to live. I want to live till I'm like 80 or 85. I want to tell as many stories as possible.
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I think, you know, cooking in is just, I just love doing it. And when you're sitting at a desk all day
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editing and it's like, I have my dog here. The dog breaks it up. It allows me to go on dog walks.
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And then cooking to me is like meditation. It's mindless. That's what I say. I follow the directions.
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Yes. And I do what I'm supposed to do. I don't have to think. Literally, you have to think,
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but you don't. Yeah. You just do it. And then it's like, it came out and you feel like,
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oh, I can do that. What are you cooking? I'm killing in the kitchen. I'm doing empanadas. I'm doing
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salmon, Caesar salads. I'm doing, I just tomorrow night work for you. We'll bring the teen
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as Vogue. Yes. Yeah. We'll make the drinks. That sounds like the good thing. And then you can bring all
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those questions. And then we can just lay where everyone at that could be a fun night. We can do a
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total episode of just Q&A. It's like quick fire questions. Yeah. Well, but seriously, Megan, Kate,
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thank you so much. I really appreciate you having me. Thanks for coming on the front of the camera
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for us today. Yeah. Because you should be on it more. You look fabulous. You're glowing right now.
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Thank you. I had amazing hair and makeup and I feel really good about it. So I never do that for
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myself. So thank you for bringing them on. You know what? It's funny. We say that all the time that
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it's in sports as women, we forget sometimes. And I always say like self-care whatever that is,
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that's your nails, your hair, your makeup, your whatever. Do it. Because if you look good,
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you feel good, you play good, you pay good. Yeah. You know what I mean? I like that. I know.
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No, I'm gonna stand on standards. Is that a Deon Sanders? That could be. Yeah, we're good. Yeah,
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we're it's like play hard. Like look good. Feel good. Yeah. Man, I said that. Yeah. Deon Sanders though.
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Okay. That's why I'm gonna take it. Deon Sanders. Thank you, Deon Sanders for making my mantra today.
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I like that. Now, but thank you so much for coming on. You're an amazing human. I can't wait to
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have you back on. We're gonna come up into your studio. We can do one from the studio. Yes.
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Done. Done. Done. Done. Sounds good. Thank you so much, Katie. Thanks. Appreciate it.
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Okay. I loved having Katie Morgan on the show today. She is literally probably the easiest
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person to talk to. I know. It's funny because she's always behind the camera. So she was like,
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I almost didn't do the show because I don't want to be in front of the camera. And I think we
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did really good today. I'll give it to ourselves at her table. We made her feel comfortable. This
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setup is phenomenal. Really is. I mean, pink walls. Like who can write that story? No. That's her
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shout out our producer, Scotty today. Like she's killing the game. Scotty's the best. She and she was
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so comfortable here. And that's so cool that, you know, from being behind the camera to being
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on camera, how great of a job she did. And it was really, really fascinating hearing her story,
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how she started at 26 as an internet NBC. Because even when you're at that age, you're like, I don't
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want to be in intern. Like, I'm already past that in the fact that she's like, Oh, I'll go be an
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internet 26 and go and look at her now. I mean, it's absolutely amazing. She's the only full-time
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employee in the WNBA that is just a creative director. But it's funny because the aces to me are really
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driving the industry as far as content and access and storytelling. And just listening to her talk
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about how much time and energy she puts into preparation for that storytelling was amazing. And by the
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way, I was blinded by her ring. Well, this is no joke. The thing weighs like two pounds. It has to
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be insured. It's enormous. That was huge. So I was intimidated holding it. I think God, you didn't
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hurt it with a mic. God. I love it. It was like, was there a diamond that fell? There were so many
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diamonds on the ring. I don't think I've ever seen anything like it. I know, but it's so cool,
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too. It speaks to the ownership, right? Of that team that they want to make sure everybody feels
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a part of that winning culture. And why I think they're becoming so successful. And it was interesting
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for her to say, Becky Hamman made this team, right? And they won it because Becky built a team. The second
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year, people were building teams to beat them. And now the teams are built to compete against them.
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Right. And it's not that easy. And so it's interesting how small little moments in time and methodical
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chess games actually make a difference two, three years now. And it's a testament to like understanding.
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You're going to get where you need to go. You're going to be where you're supposed to be. Yeah.
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Just trust the process. Yeah. But that's her in storytelling. Yeah. To trust the process. You do
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all these interviews. You don't know why. And then you see this beautiful feature come out. I can't wait
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to watch the Chelsea Gray feature of her return to play, which is going to be so phenomenal.
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Even the fashion one that she's doing today with Aja Wilson and her fashion stylist. Yeah.
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It's just a true testament to why this show is so important. Yeah. Because there's so many women
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in sports that touch sports in different ways that we don't even recognize. So I love that she
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gets it to you. But she's also just she's going to champion for everybody. I think we got her out
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of behind the camera to the front of the camera. We have a magic touch. I think we can just get anybody
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to talk. Yeah. I think so too. She was great. I love to be great detectives. We would. Oh, here we go.
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On the truth. But we would though we can get anybody to talk about anything. Yeah. It's kind of fun.
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Hey, I'm I would bet on us. Let's go. Next time we're going to solve a crime on this podcast. So stay
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tuned and see if we can make the flip from women in sports to true crime pod. Thank you guys so
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much for joining. We hope you enjoyed the show today. We are so grateful to our sponsors. Tina's
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vodka, dry bar, good American and wild collective. All of them are amazing companies, but they also
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support women and self-care. I love it. Thank you so much. We'll see you guys next time.
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