Terrell Owens Gets REAL About the NFL, Shaq & Black Culture

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to Get to the Point. I'm Terrell Owens, and this is my guy, Chris Spencer.
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Speaker 2: I'm Chris Spencer. Yeah. Not you. Yeah, man. What up, boy? Man, what up, bro?
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Speaker 3: Were you hanging out with Nas this week? No, this was a couple weeks ago. I was in Yellow Springs with Dave Chappelle.
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Speaker 4: Yellow Springs? That sounds fancy.
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Speaker 2: It's not at all.
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Speaker 3: This is Yellow Springs, Ohio. We had a show on the cornfield. Dave was selling his merch. Him and Nas are good friends. They're also selling Nas merch, so I bought this hoodie.
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Speaker 4: You said.
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Speaker 1: a comedy show in the middle of a cornfield.
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Speaker 4: So remember, I just pictured really like, you know how they did with baseball?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Field of Dreams. Field of Dreams, yes. That's what it was like. I mean, all the corn was cut.
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Speaker 1: That's what I pictured, a stage in the middle of a cornfield and y'all on stage.
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Speaker 3: So this is when, during COVID, when everything was shut down, Dave opened up the cornfield and we had, you know, everybody had on masks and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And we did comedy shows back then, so he brought it back. And so we had shows in the field. So I bought this fantastic hoodie.
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Speaker 2: But this weekend, what I did was I hosted this.
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Speaker 3: Influencers brunch, which I've been doing for like the last 13, 14 years, along with my partners, uh, Courtney Booker and Turk Stevens.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: We started off doing it in DC, uh, where we bring influential people and we have a brunch. We talk about whatever the hell is going on in the world, especially in black America. And I've had everybody from Malcolm Lee to Will Packer to Tiffany Haddish to Kenya Barris to Byron Allen.
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Speaker 2: It's been incredible. And this week, it was straight political. I had Wes Moore. This week, it was Jasmine Crockett, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett. I had Laura Coates. I had A. Scott Bowden. And I had Ben Crump.
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Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
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Speaker 2: And I had Morris Chestnut.
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Speaker 4: But you had some heavy hitters.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, people don't know how smart I can be sometimes.
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Speaker 4: I mean, those glasses make you really smart, Chris. They make you look really educated.
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Speaker 3: I hope I don't scratch them because I got to return them. But it was an incredible talk. It was during CBC weekend.
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Speaker 4: What's CBC?
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Speaker 2: The Congressional Black Caucus.
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Speaker 4: Oh, Congressional Black Caucus.
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Speaker 3: And thousands and thousands of people make a pilgrimage to Washington, D.C. And there's events there. There are parties, but throughout the day there's conferences, but it's a great event.
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Speaker 2: You should definitely go next year.
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Speaker 1: It sounds like you were in a room of very prominent and powerful people.
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Speaker 4: I mean, you had me with Jasmine Crockett.
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Speaker 2: I love her.
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Speaker 4: She's just a, I mean, epitome.
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Speaker 2: Of, I don't give a fudge. Well, let's just segue right into football.
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Speaker 4: This is your thing.
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Speaker 2: Some great games this weekend. Some upsets.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a lot of good games, great games, however you want to classify it.
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Speaker 2: There's some blue tent.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of people under the blue tent. And for the people that don't know about blue tent, that's the medical tent. When players get hurt, they go immediately under that tent to be assessed by the training or the doctor, the staff, to really determine.
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Speaker 1: Their condition and see if they're going to be able to play.
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Speaker 2: Before we even go there, let's talk about Saints-Ravens.
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Speaker 4: Saints-Ravens.
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Speaker 2: Ravens balled out the week before.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I picked the Saints to win this game, if I'm not mistaken. I think we need to look that up. No, you're getting mixed up because you're saying that because the Ravens, that's your daughter's team. Yes.
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Speaker 4: So that's why I think you think that I picked the Ravens.
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Speaker 2: No, but you did pick the Ravens because you even mentioned her.
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Speaker 4: Bella?
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Speaker 2: You were like, Bella, this is for you.
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Speaker 4: I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. But I think the Saints... Bella, you looked at the camera and said, Bella, this is for you. I'm going with the Ravens.
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Speaker 1: No, I think I said, Bella, this is for you, but my intuition and everything within me is just saying that the Saints are going.
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Speaker 3: You bragged about Henry, how dope he was, and you straightened me out by telling me he runs up more upright.
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Speaker 2: I said, Eric Dickinson... Yeah, that's the only.
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Speaker 4: Thing I said.
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Speaker 1: He runs upright like Eric Dickinson. There are some similarities. You are the fat Joe of Get to the Point. Get to the Point. I'm just telling you. So what about the Saints and Ravens? So what happened to them this week?
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Speaker 2: The Ravens lost. Just like you predicted. Just like I predicted.
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Speaker 1: But kudos and shout out to the Ravens. See, you got me all messed up. Kudos and shout out to the Saints. But this is why I tell people and everybody asks me about, you know, who am I taking for the Super Bowl this year? Because you just never know. And, you know, the saying goes, like, It's just like the movie I played in. Any given Sunday, anybody can get beat.
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Speaker 4: Anybody can bring the smoke.
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Speaker 1: You can play your best football for a stretch of weeks, and then you're running to a team that you're supposed to beat, and you don't win.
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Speaker 4: So, I mean, kudos to the Saints. I mean, they came out. They balled. It was a close game.
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Speaker 3: Derrick Henry only carried the ball like five times in the second half.
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Speaker 4: Dude, that's... Honestly, bro, that's absurd.
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Speaker 2: As a head coach.
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Speaker 1: How can you allow this to understand what you have in the backfield and Derrick Henry to know what he did his first week and to have five carries in the second half?
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Speaker 4: That's 19 less than he did the entire game previously. How can you be productive?
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Speaker 1: How can you even win or give yourself a chance to win with him only carrying the ball five times in the second half?
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Speaker 4: Bro, that doesn't make any sense.
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Speaker 1: But when you got a guy like that and Derrick Henry who just ripped off three touchdowns a week before over 140-something yards.
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Speaker 2: Makes no sense. None at all.
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Speaker 4: None whatsoever. They have five carries in the second half, bro. Bro, I can do that.
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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, do you think he's succumbing to the pressure of the quote-unquote stereotype of the black quarterback running too much so he's trying to stay in the pocket more? and look like the all-American quarterback. And that's why he didn't run as much.
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Speaker 4: He shouldn't run unless it's a situation for him to run.
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Speaker 1: I don't like the idea because I think he can probably get in his head to where he's hearing everybody say what he should and he shouldn't do, what type of quarterback he should be. As a quarterback, you should take what the defense gives you. If it allows you, if it says stand in the pocket, deliver the ball, go through progression.
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Speaker 4: Do that. If the pressure.
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Speaker 1: gets you, moves you out of pocket, and you can keep your eyes upfield. And if you see guys open, you throw it. But if a lane there and you can get the first down, go get the first down. If there's a receiver in your vicinity for you to just dump the ball to him, let that guy get the first.
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Speaker 4: Down and minimize the risk on him running, give it to the guys to make the plays. Ultimately, he's going to get those yards anyway. It's going to be passing yards to the receivers.
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Speaker 3: Let's talk about this very low-scoring Vikings-Bears game.
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Speaker 2: 9-3. 9-3.
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Speaker 1: What happened there? But there's a reason why I think that it was a low-scoring game. Me playing football, understanding these divisions, you got the NFC South, the NFC– every division has NFC South, East, West, North, whatever the case may be.
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Speaker 4: AFC the same way.
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Speaker 1: When you come to these division games when they know each other– This is what you're going to get.
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Speaker 2: Low-scoring games.
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Speaker 4: Low-scoring game. But 9-3?
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Speaker 2: That's a soccer score.
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Speaker 4: That's a baseball game, to be quite honest.
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Speaker 1: But this is the type of game you're going to get when teams are familiar with each other. Defenses are familiar with the opponent's offense. Offenses are familiar with the opposing team's defense. But then I think a big key to this, Caleb has an injury late in the game. I would have thought the dude, tore his ACL.
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Speaker 2: Oh, the way they took him out.
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Speaker 4: I mean, he rushed at his Achilles.
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Speaker 2: He had the Spike Lee truck floating back.
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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I would have thought the guy was going to be out maybe for an extent period of time toward the end of the year based on how I saw my optics of how he went down and how he was.
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Speaker 4: Helped off the field.
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Speaker 2: I think they're just saying week to week.
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Speaker 1: Now they're saying week to week. They're saying it's a hamstring injury. Bro, you would have thought somebody snipered him from... From the 400 section.
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Speaker 2: Yes. Caleb!
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Speaker 4: Bro. I mean, you talk about dramatics. I mean, bro.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine being a Chicago Bears fan and watching that.
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Speaker 4: And he's been playing. He played exceptionally well the first week. Yeah, 57 points. Yeah, something like that.
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Speaker 2: 37 last week, yeah.
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Speaker 4: I think if he's upright, he finishes the game. The Bears win.
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Speaker 2: Eagles-Titans. Eagles come out with another win, 24-20.
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Speaker 4: Yes, yes.
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Speaker 2: People still don't give Jalen his just due.
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Speaker 4: I think we all know what it is, but... What is it, T.O.? We know what that is.
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Speaker 2: What is it?
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Speaker 4: I had and I saw the discussion with Dan Orlowski. First of all, the idea that Dan Orlowski, I think he's changed his tune a bit.
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Speaker 2: I think he has to.
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Speaker 4: But Yeah, he has to.
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Speaker 1: But if you see what Jalen Hurts has done over the last four or five years, just imagine, just see what he did this past weekend. The comeback hit, they were down. I think it was maybe a minute or two left in the game. That's not a lot of time. And when you talk about clutch quarterbacks, Super Bowl caliber quarterbacks, quarterbacks to lead you to victories, when you talk about leadership, this is what this guy possesses. When you talk about a guy that can make all the plays with his feet, with his arms, That's what this guy, that's what he possesses in Jalen Hurts.
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Speaker 2: Past the Darius Cooper, I think it was the last nine seconds of the game.
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Speaker 4: This is what he's supposed to do.
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Speaker 2: To do.
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Speaker 4: This is what you expect.
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Speaker 1: When you're a Philly fan, they expect these things. They don't want it to be this close, but I think he delivered. Take that, Dan Orlowski.
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Speaker 4: Take that.
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Speaker 1: So Dan Orlowski was on a set with his co-host, Evan Cohen.
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Speaker 4: Cohen put him on the spot. Because I think he's seeing the slander.
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Speaker 2: He's biased.
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Speaker 1: The underlying, the subtleties, little subtle hints of he's not appreciative of what Jalen Hurts is doing.
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Speaker 2: It's never about what he's doing. It's about what he's not doing.
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Speaker 4: Right. It's always about what he's not doing.
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Speaker 1: But again, he's proving week in and week out and year to year that he can do it. And honestly, it shouldn't be based on color. But at the end of the day, it's all about... Black quarterbacks, white quarterbacks. Can they do it? Can they deliver? It was one time like all they were known for is running quarterbacks. Can they read defenses? Can they make the right throws? Are they accurate enough? These black quarterbacks are doing exactly what they were looked not to do.
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Speaker 2: Dallas.
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Speaker 1: Oh, boy.
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Speaker 2: After this week is one-on-one. Did you pick the Cowboys over the Commanders?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I picked the Cowboys.
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Speaker 2: You did, huh?
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Speaker 4: Great win by the Cowboys.
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Speaker 2: They needed this win.
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Speaker 1: Again, another injury, unfortunate injury to a starting quarterback, Jaden Daniels.
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Speaker 4: For no reason.
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Speaker 2: It was four down.
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Speaker 3: They could have kicked the field goal, came back after halftime, had the ball, and he'd have a nice elbow to play with.
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Speaker 4: I'm not even questioning it. I'm not even questioning that. It's hindsight.
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Speaker 1: You can go back and be like, oh, he should have done this or they should have done that. This has nothing to do with that. I think his training style failed him. To be honest... This is a, his elbow that he dislocated is his non-throwing hand.
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Speaker 4: You just had an horrific injury last year that took you out.
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Speaker 2: Same elbow.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what rehab that he did over the summer, but I think anybody knows, I'm not a doctor by any means.
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Speaker 4: I think his training staff failed him.
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Speaker 1: I think himself, he has to police himself to understand, like, you know what you needed to do during the off season to better and like improve and rehab on the injuries from years prior. Those are things you want to prioritize because you don't want to go into the season with those same injuries reoccurring. So I think he has to police himself better. The training staff, number one, that's the face of your– like this is the face of your franchise. If he doesn't go, if he's not on that field, then you're not going to win games. Magic Johnson, isn't he part owner of the Washington Commanders, if I'm not mistaken? Like there's a lot at stake with the Washington Commanders.
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Speaker 2: You think Magic said something?
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Speaker 1: Man, I mean– You got to understand what's at stake here. The guy had a phenomenal rookie season. I mean, he was slicing the day, like he was carving defenses up. And then obviously an injury happened. Now this same injury occurs.
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Speaker 4: This is not good for Jaden Daniels, not good for the Washington Commanders.
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Speaker 1: My thing is, if nothing else, I guarantee if he doesn't have to have surgery, they're going to have to put a brace on there because it's just none throwing them.
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Speaker 4: You don't really need that. You don't need that.
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Speaker 2: Well, he needs to catch himself when he falls.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, but my thing is, that's why you need to put a brace on there to help take, you know, take pressure off, you know, the dislocation.
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Speaker 3: Name the best player you think that their career or a player, a player, they got, they got derailed by injury.
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Speaker 2: Like, who would have been like elite? I can't F with you. You're, if, had they not got hurt.
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Speaker 4: Oh, that's, Without question, easy peasy, Bo Jackson.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: At first I was thinking, on top of my head, I was thinking Todd Gurley. But then the running back thing kind of just kept jogging in my head, and I'm like, running back, Bo Jackson.
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Speaker 2: Bo Jackson.
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Speaker 4: Bro. I didn't get to see him play pro. I mean, I saw highlights.
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Speaker 2: Sure.
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Speaker 4: But I saw him, I mean, I remember him at Auburn, too.
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Speaker 2: That's right. At Auburn.
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Speaker 1: And then hearing the stories of, Man, him and Deion, they're some of the greatest, exceptional athletes that has ever walked this planet, including me. But you can't deny what Bo Jackson, bro.
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Speaker 4: You watch those highlights, dude.
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Speaker 2: How about just breaking a baseball bat with his hands?
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Speaker 4: That too, in itself. Like to play both sports. These are high-level sports that, especially baseball, you hitting the ball, That stick trying to put on a baseball going 90 to 100 miles an hour. I mean, an average person can't hit it 60.
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Speaker 1: Miles an hour, let alone 90 plus. And he was doing that at a very high level, he and Deion.
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Speaker 3: But here's what's so funny talking about hitting a 90 to 100 mile an hour ball. Me and Anthony Anderson went to Boston. We had to do an event out there for the.
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Speaker 2: First tee golf. We went to.
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Speaker 4: Batting cages?
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Speaker 2: No, at Big Poppy. We went downstairs at the.
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Speaker 4: Boston Red Sox.
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Speaker 2: The Red Sox. So downstairs, they have a... The batting cage. Big Poppy was throwing the ball to us to hit... And he's a hitter.
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Speaker 3: He's throwing the ball at 65... We could not hit it.
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Speaker 4: And he's not even a pitcher. 65-70.
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Speaker 2: Shoot! So I can't imagine what 95 looks like.
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Speaker 4: Well, that doesn't surprise me. Neither one of you guys are athletes anyway.
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Speaker 2: We are athletes.
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Speaker 4: No, you're not.
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Speaker 2: Because of the knee injury. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
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Speaker 4: Okay, okay.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Dak, though.
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Speaker 1: Dak was not whack this week. Dak was not whack this week. The Cowboys, they got their elusive win.
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Speaker 4: This is good. They needed to get in the win column. To start out the season 0-2, they didn't trust me.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 4: Dallas didn't want to have that.
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Speaker 3: And, you know, with the 249th touchdown, he passed your boy, Tony Romo.
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Speaker 1: Well, if I would have been there, he would still be chasing. He would still be chasing. But, unfortunately, that was not the case. So, yeah, I mean, kudos to Dak. I mean, 249 touchdowns, there's nothing to sneeze at. Um, he has a lot, I'm sure a lot of people to thank for that. Um, but it's a, uh, uh, really a tribute to what he has done throughout his career. I mean, he took over for Romo, um, put, put, really put Romo in the rear view mirror once he got the, got, got a chance to play.
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Speaker 4: And, uh, he's not looking back.
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Speaker 2: In their prime.
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Speaker 4: In their prime. In their prime.
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Speaker 2: Dak or Romo?
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Speaker 4: Um, I mean, it pains me to say this, but I'm, I'm, I'm, it pains me. I ain't gonna tell a lie.
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Speaker 1: It pains me to say this based on how, uh, on my departure from the Cowboys and how I know part of the reasons why I'm not, I wasn't there.
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Speaker 4: But I would have to go to, I would have to say Romo. Really?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, with my play style, again, I'm not going to hate on the dude. The dude could ball. I mean, we did some great things in my three years there. From what I understand, I had like, what, 38 touchdowns in three years. That's almost like 10, averaging almost 10 a year. So we did some great things.
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Speaker 2: One in 10.
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Speaker 1: But unfortunately, it came to an end. So it is what it is. Chris, let's talk about get your popcorn ready. Who did what this weekend? Who popped off? Who showed out? First of all, you had to show up. Then you show out.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 4: Here's my popcorn power five.
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Speaker 2: Let's go.
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Speaker 4: Number five. Number five. It is Bryce Young. Bryce Young.
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Speaker 1: I told everybody, Bryce Young, this is going to be his year this year. Because he's starting to develop. He's starting to get comfortable. He's starting to utilize his weapons. Let's see what Bryce Young did. 23 for 36, 287 pass yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions, and two of those touchdowns went to the guy that was out of the league just a few years ago, a couple years ago, and Darren Waller from the Raiders.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 4: That's number five.
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Speaker 2: Number four.
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Speaker 1: Number four, Brock Lesnar. Purdy, my 49ers, my 49ers. Hey, Brock, 20 for 22, very offensive. Bro, he only missed two passes in this game. 287 pass yards, two touchdowns, passing, one rushing, and a passer rating 149.1. 149.1 off the charts. Number three, the receiver out of Seattle, Jackson Smith and Jigba.
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Speaker 2: It's about time he gave a receiver some love.
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Speaker 1: Hey, they got to show up. You know what I mean? Ain't nobody stepping up to the plate. So let's see what he did. Man, nine reception, 155 yards, three touchdowns. These are my type of numbers. These are my type of numbers right here. This is why he's not number one, but he's close. He's number three.
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Speaker 4: He's number two. Number two. I already know what this one is. I ain't got to look at this one.
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen for the Buffalo Bills, Bills Mafia. Let me give my guy some love. Man, Josh Allen, 20 for 31, 248 pass yards, three passing touchdowns, 69 rush yards with two rushing TDs.
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Speaker 2: That's black quarterback stats.
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Speaker 3: What?
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Speaker 4: Boy, hey, Josh, you might have a little brother in you.
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Speaker 2: What?
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Speaker 4: Hey, you might have a little brother in you.
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Speaker 2: It might be Marcus Allen's little stepson or something. Hey, let me tell you something.
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Speaker 1: This is good for Josh Allen, and this is why he's close.
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Speaker 4: He's number two. Number one is going to be well-deserving.
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Speaker 1: Just hold on to your popcorn and your soda. I'll get to him in a minute. But Josh Allen, they're 2-0.
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Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 4: Great win.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's playing exceptional football for a quarterback, and this is what the Buffalo Bills want him to do. Hey, they're starting off well. They need to end well. This is what they're looking for at the end of the season going into the playoffs. So, hey, it's early, but let me just tell you now, Josh Allen, Let's go. Bill's Mafia.
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Speaker 4: Number one.
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Speaker 2: Uh-oh.
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Speaker 4: For get your popcorn ready, pile five.
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Speaker 2: I think I have an idea who it is.
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Speaker 4: Your popcorn, pile five.
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Speaker 1: Number one, Devin Lloyd, number 55 of the Carolina Panthers. This is why he's number one. Because what he did this weekend is hard to do.
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Speaker 2: Rare for a linebacker. Rare.
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Speaker 4: And not every defensive, this is a defensive player's dream.
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Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 4: A quarterback, they can have those numbers any given week.
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Speaker 1: That's why I picked Josh Allen number two because he can get those numbers any week. But to do something what Devin Lloyd did, that's hard to come by. Like you said, it's very, very rare. Nine tackles, two tackle for losses, one sack, two interceptions. One of them went for a pick six. Three passes deflected. You can't get any better than that.
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Speaker 2: There was ESPY numbers.
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Speaker 1: Bro.
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Speaker 2: Him running that second one for the touchdown.
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Speaker 4: Oh, let me tell you something. He was not going to be denied on that.
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Speaker 2: And he almost could have got it with the first one.
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Speaker 1: Right. If he had a little bit more, you know. I think he was so shocked. Let me tell you something.
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Speaker 2: If he had a.
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Speaker 4: Little more oomph to him, he may have had two pick sixes. But you can't. This is nothing to sneeze at.
00:21:32
Speaker 1: To have two interceptions and one go for a pick six. Devin Lloyd, you are this week's get your popcorn ready, popcorn.
00:21:45
Speaker 4: Number one player of the week. Bro, you did your thing.
00:21:50
Speaker 1: You did what you were supposed to do on the defensive side of the ball in helping the Carolina Panthers get their win.
00:21:57
Speaker 4: Hey, y'all keep doing what y'all doing.
00:21:59
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00:22:24
Speaker 2: All right, y'all. This is the second movie we like to call Get to the Pick. Who you got, sir? This is week three. We got Ravens at Cowboys. Now let's add something a little special to this game.
00:22:36
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be in Baltimore and it's not gonna be in Dallas. It's gonna be in Rio de Janeiro. That is a 10 hour flight from Dallas, a 14 hour flight from Baltimore.
00:22:48
Speaker 1: Well, I know one thing is gonna be not in question is the travel. I know both of those teams are gonna.
00:22:53
Speaker 4: Be, they gonna be on site a little bit earlier.
00:22:57
Speaker 1: I think everybody got their dose of reality with the Rams and 49ers game.
00:23:01
Speaker 2: What were you thinking? Yeah.
00:23:04
Speaker 1: Ravens, Cowboys, you know what? Bella, this is your team. I am not betting against the Ravens this week. I know they're going to be pissed off. They're going to be, hey, Bella, this is your favorite team, so I know that you're going to be rooting for the Ravens this week.
00:23:24
Speaker 4: So it didn't happen last week. This week, I'm going with the Ravens. I'm going with your team, the Ravens.
00:23:29
Speaker 3: What does Lamar have to do to secure this win?
00:23:32
Speaker 4: Be Lamar.
00:23:34
Speaker 1: Do what he does best. I mean, people are going to say, well, that's run the football. But all he needs to do is just take what the defense gives him. Obviously, the game plan will predicate on what he really does with the football. If it's a running game, if they're having success, then it's going to be a heavy dose of Derrick Henry. If they're not stopping it, keep running it until they do.
00:23:59
Speaker 2: What happens if Derrick Henry only gets the ball five times?
00:24:01
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something. If he gets that ball five times in the second half again, I'm sorry, Bella. Your team is not going to be very successful this year.
00:24:11
Speaker 1: So honestly, to be quite honest, if Derrick Henry runs the ball efficiently, if Lamar Jackson passes and does what he needs to do, goes through his progressions, get the ball to the receivers, I ain't going to say it's an easy win, but it's a win they should have. Like I said, travel out of the picture. Everybody's going to be there on soil. Enough rest. Get acclimated to the environment.
00:24:39
Speaker 4: Go over there.
00:24:40
Speaker 1: It's a business trip. Go over there and handle business. Get back to Baltimore. Get ready for week one.
00:24:45
Speaker 2: Now, how does Dak make sure that doesn't happen?
00:24:47
Speaker 1: I heard Dak say in his postgame presser with Aaron Andrews, He says going into this week, that's a confidence booster for them. They needed that win to go into this week because 0-2 would be, this would be a must win for them if they were 0-2 this week. But I think they're going to have some momentum built on what they did with last week's game.
00:25:07
Speaker 4: This time, both teams will be in a neutral site. They're going on the road. This is a business trip.
00:25:13
Speaker 1: I know I've been, I played an international game before, but any game you go on the road, both of these games, both of these teams, this is a business trip. You want to go Go have a little bit of fun if you can do that.
00:25:26
Speaker 2: Don't have too much fun. It's Rio de Janeiro.
00:25:28
Speaker 4: The main purpose of this trip is go get a win.
00:25:30
Speaker 2: Chargers-Bills. Can anybody slow down? Bills.
00:25:34
Speaker 4: I'm taking Bills all day on this.
00:25:36
Speaker 2: Josh Allen.
00:25:37
Speaker 4: I'm predicting at least by two touchdowns.
00:25:40
Speaker 2: I'm going to start calling him Josh Marcus Allen.
00:25:42
Speaker 4: Right. Bills in this one. I'm not really seeing a lot from the Chargers. I mean.
00:25:50
Speaker 2: They're 0-2.
00:25:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they're about to be 0-3. I don't think that, I don't foresee them beating that. Right now, the Bills are on fire.
00:26:00
Speaker 4: They're hot. They're hot right now. So, yeah, point blank, point blank period. The Bills are winning this.
00:26:06
Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Eagles versus Bears. Can the Bears bounce back?
00:26:10
Speaker 4: No, without Caleb, no.
00:26:12
Speaker 2: But we don't know if Caleb's gone.
00:26:13
Speaker 4: Oh, he's gone. The way he got, the way he walked off.
00:26:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was dramatic.
00:26:17
Speaker 1: No, let me tell you something. He'll be fooling everybody if he comes back and play in this game.
00:26:24
Speaker 2: Pull a Willis Reed. What?
00:26:26
Speaker 4: Man, no. I'm going with my Philadelphia Eagles, Jalen Hurts, who's playing exceptional football. He did what he was supposed to do last week, being down, fourth quarter comeback, putting his team to, you know, throwing the ball. Yeah, pass to Cooper for the go-ahead touchdown and the win.
00:26:47
Speaker 2: I'm picking.
00:26:48
Speaker 4: And I'm flying high with my Philadelphia Eagles. That backup quarterback, I mean, he has to face the likes of Cooper Dijon, Jalen Carter, just a host of guys in the secondary.
00:27:00
Speaker 2: Nolan Smith.
00:27:01
Speaker 4: Nolan Smith.
00:27:02
Speaker 1: So if this guy is going to come in and try to be successful, they're going to try to keep the game playing very simple for a backup quarterback. Obviously, I think this is probably going to be his first real game. So I just don't see him having a lot of success.
00:27:18
Speaker 2: Rams, Denver.
00:27:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, Rams, Broncos. Man, Rams, Broncos. I mean, let's see. I mean, this will be Aaron Donald's second game. That's a short week for the Rams. So, I mean, the Broncos are playing well.
00:27:32
Speaker 2: What does McVay have to do?
00:27:34
Speaker 1: Get there early. Get there early. But outside of that, let's just see. Let's just see what Aaron Donald can do with the absence of Myles Garrett.
00:27:48
Speaker 4: Let's see what he can do bringing.
00:27:50
Speaker 1: That morale and disrupting what he– I mean, Aaron Donald, he's a one-man wrecking crew. If he does what I think he's going to do, they're going to have to account for him, but that's going to allow other players to make plays around him.
00:28:04
Speaker 2: All right, this next game is an AFC North game. Conference rivalry. Ooh, who is this? Who we got? Bengals Steelers.
00:28:12
Speaker 4: Bengals Steelers. Ooh, steel curtain versus.
00:28:16
Speaker 2: Steelers are coming off of a loss.
00:28:19
Speaker 4: Man, I'm really trying to root for Aaron Rodgers.
00:28:24
Speaker 1: I'm hoping he can find his stride, his fountain of youth. I'm hoping he can find some consistency, some trust in his receivers. I'm looking for some flashes of Green Bay Packers Aaron Rodgers. Because I know he can do it.
00:28:43
Speaker 2: Even at this age?
00:28:44
Speaker 4: Yes, bro. Age is nothing but a number.
00:28:46
Speaker 1: I don't like that when people bring up somebody's age as far as like if they can play.
00:28:52
Speaker 2: You have to take it into some consideration. Yeah. 40-year-old T.O. ain't 20-year-old T.O.
00:28:57
Speaker 4: No, it's not.
00:28:58
Speaker 1: But when you have knowledge of the game and you know how to play the game, And for him, if he has the necessary weapons around him, that will bode well for him.
00:29:06
Speaker 2: You think that works better as a quarterback?
00:29:08
Speaker 1: Yes, because that's, I mean, it makes a quarterback's job easier when you have weapons and all you got to do is you have the protection.
00:29:16
Speaker 4: And for him, all he got to be is accurate. All he got to be is on point.
00:29:19
Speaker 1: Go through his regressions, read the defenses, pre-snap, during the play, whatever the case may be. What you don't want to do for a 40-year-old quarterback is getting out of the pocket defensively trying to make plays.
00:29:31
Speaker 2: Right, running.
00:29:32
Speaker 1: That's not what you want to do. Can he do it at times? Yes, but that's not, you want, you don't want to hang your hat on that. That's what I mean by, I know he has it in him. If you put the right pieces around him, he can be successful. And then again, he has this old quarterback from, from Mike McCarthy, his Superbowl, you know, champion quarterback, you know, coach.
00:29:53
Speaker 4: So yeah. Yeah. He has a Superbowl coach at his, at his, I mean, it's right in his pocket.
00:30:01
Speaker 2: Right. So what does Joe Burrow have to do to make sure this don't happen?
00:30:05
Speaker 4: What Joe Burrow need to do is get that ball to number one, Jamar Chase. His other receiver, T. Higgins.
00:30:15
Speaker 1: If they can do that, I don't know. It doesn't matter who's in the secondary. Those two receivers right there, they're very dynamic.
00:30:25
Speaker 2: You have a very.
00:30:26
Speaker 1: Capable quarterback, a quarterback that got the team to the Super Bowl like three, four years ago. If they can get back to that, hmm. So, I'm going to go with the Cincinnati Bengals on this one.
00:30:40
Speaker 2: All right. Just so we can know your picks, all right?
00:30:43
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:30:45
Speaker 2: I'll put a list. I just want to hear it in order, okay? Ravens versus Cowboys, you have the.
00:30:54
Speaker 2: You said it earlier. Ravens. Okay. Chargers, Bills, you have the? Eagles. Eagles, Bears, you have the? Eagles. Okay. Rams, Broncos, you have the?
00:31:05
Speaker 4: Broncos.
00:31:06
Speaker 2: Bengals, Steelers, you have the? Bengals. And which of those picks are you the most confident in?
00:31:11
Speaker 4: Eagles.
00:31:12
Speaker 2: Eagles. Okay.
00:31:14
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
00:31:15
Speaker 3: Which of these players, I know you're going to pick, I think, but who do you think is.
00:31:22
Speaker 2: Going to pop this week?
00:31:25
Speaker 4: Oh, who I think is going to pop this week?
00:31:29
Speaker 2: Not Hope Pop.
00:31:30
Speaker 1: You know they're going to pop. I'm going to go with Josh Allen.
00:31:34
Speaker 2: I know it. I'm going to go with Josh Allen.
00:31:36
Speaker 3: Bill's Mafia must owe you money.
00:31:39
Speaker 4: You got to roll with the hot hand.
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00:32:01
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00:32:26
Speaker 4: UCLA won. Roll Tide, you know, I love my Alabama. I'm from Alabama. I love Crimson Tide.
00:32:53
Speaker 2: How did you even go there?
00:32:55
Speaker 4: I wasn't good enough.
00:32:56
Speaker 2: Really?
00:32:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wasn't good enough.
00:32:58
Speaker 2: So you got better and better as time went on.
00:33:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
00:33:01
Speaker 2: LSU, Ole Miss.
00:33:03
Speaker 4: Ooh! Hey.
00:33:04
Speaker 2: People were waiting for that game. Boy, hey. I can't, man.
00:33:10
Speaker 4: This, hey, I can't imagine. You talking about rivalry games?
00:33:14
Speaker 2: Did they throw Lane Kiffin on it?
00:33:16
Speaker 4: Man, Lane Kiffin.
00:33:17
Speaker 1: To go back to where you once were, where you were successful, and then the way that he departed going into the playoffs last year, I think a lot of the players felt.
00:33:28
Speaker 4: Like he just left them high and dry.
00:33:30
Speaker 2: He did.
00:33:30
Speaker 1: But I understand business decisions too.
00:33:33
Speaker 4: Money. So to come back, to go back to your old, you obviously want to win. Right.
00:33:38
Speaker 1: You obviously want to win. And the coach that replaced him, I'm sure he wants to, like, oh. And he took them really deep. He took them in the playoff deep, too. So this was juicy. Everybody was talking about this LSU Ole Miss game. And I think it lived up to the hype. Lane Kiffin and the LSU Tigers, they have a lot of work to do. My son goes to LSU, and he's texting me, talking about, go Tigers.
00:34:04
Speaker 4: What you think about this? I said, look, man, Ole Miss is about to tear you all up. I get it. He goes to school. I'm going to excuse you, son. He just doesn't know football.
00:34:16
Speaker 1: I know football. I knew Ole Miss was going to tear that ass up. Tear that ass up.
00:34:22
Speaker 4: And there was a lot of hostility leading up to that week. Even the players I heard, like Coach, you know, they're going through the– and he should know, but he knows anyway. He knew that there was going to be a lot of hostility. He knew there was going to be people attacking him, the people that once loved you. They're going to be hating you. I went through that. I played in Philly. Played with the Dallas. Then Dallas. Then I went back. Man, I know what that's like.
00:34:45
Speaker 2: What was it like?
00:34:45
Speaker 4: Man, I'm already knowing. You have to get yourself prepared for that. When you're with them, they love you.
00:34:50
Speaker 2: Is your heart racing? Are you nervous?
00:34:52
Speaker 4: Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah.
00:34:56
Speaker 2: Are you ready to show out?
00:34:58
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:34:58
Speaker 2: Are you trying to prove to the fans you made the right decision? Exactly. You want to win. By demolishing their team?
00:35:03
Speaker 4: Exactly.
00:35:03
Speaker 2: That's going to make other people madder.
00:35:04
Speaker 3: They'll be like, you should have stayed and did that for us.
00:35:06
Speaker 1: Right.
00:35:06
Speaker 4: But again.
00:35:08
Speaker 1: as a head coach, there's only so much you can do. Only thing you can't get on the field and play. You just got to call the right place. And you got to have the defensive coordinator and the offensive coordinator to call the right place. You ultimately going to get the win, the W the team going to win, but everything that that team.
00:35:22
Speaker 4: Does, you're the head coach. It rides on you. So they came up short and he was, I saw the press conference. He was very respectful. He was humble.
00:35:31
Speaker 1: Um, And, yeah, he gave Ole Miss their kudos. He gave them their flowers. They went in there, and Ole Miss spanked that button. They tucked their tail. Those Tigers tucked that tail, got back on that bus, and.
00:35:44
Speaker 4: Back to Death Valley they went.
00:35:45
Speaker 2: As a Cowboy going back to Philly. Yeah.
00:35:48
Speaker 4: How was that?
00:35:49
Speaker 2: I mean, they had to be pissed.
00:35:51
Speaker 1: First of all, playing in Philly, honestly, it may have been like one of the best experiences that I had. Number one, I told you, Andy Reid, one of the best coaches, offensive coaches that I ever played for. me being able to really flourish and play to my strengths and my abilities, which I felt like in San Francisco I wasn't able to do. Now playing, then playing with the Eagles, knowing what they had offensively, and then you add more firepower to what they already had as a high powered type of offense. And then knowing the defense, I'm knowing like at any given, like during the course of the game, like, I just knew we were going to get the ball a lot. So that means we're going to score a lot because if the defense is not allowing the other team to move the ball down the field, three and out, three.
00:36:36
Speaker 4: And out, that's more opportunities for us as an offense. And for me, that's more opportunities for me to get my hands on the ball.
00:36:42
Speaker 1: So I already knew going into Philly, it was going to, like I said, we just had to just gel, do.
00:36:47
Speaker 4: What we did.
00:36:49
Speaker 1: And to go to play into that, that NFC rivalry games. I mean, I played, San Francisco Cowboys, that was a rivalry. Then at some point it was us and then the St.
00:37:00
Speaker 4: Louis Rams. That was a rivalry. Now I'm with the Eagles playing against the Dallas Cowboys. Man, that was a rivalry in itself. So when I played with them.
00:37:09
Speaker 2: After some of the shenanigans you did.
00:37:11
Speaker 1: Man, like we destroyed Dallas. Then I leave Philly, go to Dallas. Now I'm a Dallas Cowboy. Now I got to go back to the Lions then. I'm already knowing, bro, they were eating.
00:37:24
Speaker 4: Man, you heard.
00:37:26
Speaker 1: They were calling me anything under the sun. Fans can be, they get a little alcohol in them. They can say, they can do a little bit of any and everything. I never had any items thrown at me or anything like that. I would have been like Ron Artis. I would have been all up in the stands. They throw something at me, hey, I would have been all up in the stands.
00:37:47
Speaker 2: That's your ass.
00:37:48
Speaker 4: But man, it's a feeling that, I really can't put into words. I can't describe. You just know, like you see it on the, on the, you see the game coming up on the calendar.
00:37:57
Speaker 1: You obviously you play, you once played for that team. So you obviously you want to play well. They knew what I did against them with them. So now I'm playing against a divisional opponent with, you know, the Dallas Cowboys. So, you know, the whole city, they done marked that calendar dude. They get in, you know, you get in the press conference and players ask, answer all these questions and, or asked by the reporters, like, are you looking forward to this game?
00:38:21
Speaker 4: What do you think? And they're like, you know, the typical cliche, oh, it's just another game. No, it's not.
00:38:25
Speaker 2: No, it's not.
00:38:25
Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question.
00:38:27
Speaker 2: How many people understand? 70,000?
00:38:29
Speaker 4: At least.
00:38:30
Speaker 3: How many people you think are booing and how many people are actually glad that their favorite player is back in town?
00:38:36
Speaker 4: 69,999. Are booing.
00:38:38
Speaker 2: Are booing.
00:38:38
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:38:39
Speaker 4: 69,999. Who's the one person not booing?
00:38:41
Speaker 2: 99.
00:38:41
Speaker 4: Who's the one person not booing? Andy Reid.
00:38:50
Speaker 2: That's good.
00:38:54
Speaker 4: Andy Reid, because he loves me.
00:38:55
Speaker 3: That's good.
00:38:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, you talk about rivalries.
00:38:59
Speaker 1: I can remember playing with the Dallas Cowboys, playing against the Giants, playing in this game. I think I may have been hurt in this game, but I was still playing. Drew Bledsoe was the quarterback. We needed to score. We're in the red zone. I remember this vividly. We had double, I can't remember what the play was, but we ran double outs, like quick outs, Omaha's or something like that.
00:39:24
Speaker 2: Who was the other receiver?
00:39:25
Speaker 4: The other receiver was Terry Glenn. so people to put in context Terry Glenn played with Drew Bledsoe with the New England Patriots with the New England Patriots myself and Terry we're both playing with the Cowboys Drew Bledsoe is the quarterback Tony Romo is the backup.
00:39:43
Speaker 1: So to sum it all up we both run the route I know I'm wide open I'm thinking I'm about to get the ball based on leverage and how wide open I was. I come out of my route and I saw him throw it to the other side, pick, and the game was over. And honestly, that was the last time Drew Bledsoe ever threw for the Dallas Cowboys. I think that may have been the last time he threw a pass in the NFL.
00:40:14
Speaker 2: From that mistake.
00:40:14
Speaker 4: From that mistake.
00:40:16
Speaker 1: And here comes the emergence of Tony Romo, the birth of Tony Romo and T.O.
00:40:21
Speaker 4: And after that, we tore it up.
00:40:24
Speaker 2: All right. Let's move on to politics and entertainment.
00:40:28
Speaker 3: Our dear friend Shaquille O'Neal struck up a little bit of controversy by accepting this I don't want to call it a fake award, a faux trophy, something that don't really matter from somebody who is not a person that is liked, definitely not by our community, with the head of the FBI, somebody who probably would have never made the FBI had he had to go through everything that you have to do to become. Never in a million years would he have been a federal agent. He was at this event where they gave him some kind of a badge.
00:41:10
Speaker 2: Let me hear your take on it, T.O. He's a friend of yours.
00:41:13
Speaker 4: This is a very touchy subject for me because Shaq is my guy.
00:41:18
Speaker 2: He's my guy, too.
00:41:21
Speaker 4: But I feel sitting here with the platform that we have, we have to address this. Absolutely.
00:41:28
Speaker 1: Like you said, this is our friend. But our friend is wrong. He's wrong in this situation. The optics aren't good.
00:41:37
Speaker 4: The response... Let me just say this. The response that he had.
00:41:46
Speaker 1: In response to Matthew Chappelle, y'all can find him on OGBigMatt510.
00:41:54
Speaker 4: This guy, I've been following him before this even happened.
00:41:58
Speaker 1: So he saw that Shaq took this honorary, what is it, FBI something?
00:42:04
Speaker 4: Badge. Badge or whatever. From Kash Patel.
00:42:09
Speaker 1: If you're not into politics or you don't understand what Kash Patel represents, then you're living under a rock.
00:42:17
Speaker 4: Obviously, he's with the Trump administration.
00:42:19
Speaker 1: The optics alone, just having Kash Patel associated with this and him being on the same stage with this is all wrong and all bad. Matt Chappelle, who saw this, and I just mentioned his handle, This guy, I talked to him personally, and I wanted to obviously give him his proper due introduction so people can understand that this guy is just not some fly-by-night influence or just some guy just saw this and then responding to it or shedding light to it. So Matthew Chappelle from Oakland. 5-1-0.
00:42:59
Speaker 4: College grad. Army vet. Two tours.
00:43:05
Speaker 2: IRAC.
00:43:06
Speaker 4: In Afghanistan. He is a content creator. He has a podcast.
00:43:13
Speaker 1: But can you take a punch podcast that he does? So to have all of this happen, like I said, the optics are really bad.
00:43:24
Speaker 4: Matt addressed it. He didn't like it. He's been a fan of Shaq. Yes. He went into his closet, grabbed Shaq's shoes, his jerseys.
00:43:35
Speaker 2: Two jerseys.
00:43:36
Speaker 4: Put it in the trash can.
00:43:37
Speaker 2: I want to correct. People were saying that he burned the jerseys. He did not burn them. He actually went back the next day and opened the trash can and showed that they were still there.
00:43:44
Speaker 1: Let's go to Shaq. This is not cool. This is not a good look. And his response, he went into Matt's IG and said, I hear you, broke boy.
00:43:57
Speaker 4: Go sit in your apartment with your family.
00:43:58
Speaker 2: That was a nice Shaq.
00:44:00
Speaker 4: There's a lot of hypocrisy.
00:44:02
Speaker 1: Shaq is known with the big Aristotle, the big What is it?
00:44:06
Speaker 2: Chamberlasy.
00:44:08
Speaker 4: For me, this is the big hypocrite.
00:44:10
Speaker 1: We're going to add that to his resume. Since he's collecting all these awards, you can collect this one. Shaq, you're wrong with this one, big guy. Big fella, you're wrong.
00:44:19
Speaker 4: You may be mad at me. You can be mad at me all you want to.
00:44:23
Speaker 1: To understand what you're doing with the kids, obviously in the community, you're supplying.
00:44:29
Speaker 2: Shoes for underprivileged kids. Paid for a lot of people's colleges.
00:44:32
Speaker 4: Because shoes are expensive. What you said was It was wrong.
00:44:37
Speaker 2: Uncalled for.
00:44:38
Speaker 4: Uncalled for.
00:44:40
Speaker 2: What's worse, what he did or the response?
00:44:44
Speaker 4: Both of them are wrong. There's no two ways about it.
00:44:49
Speaker 1: And I think everybody has been, the response to him and what he's done, it's been all negative. How can he not see that what he did was wrong? For him to have, to be who he is, number one, this dude, He's an icon in our community. He's done a lot of great things in the community, but that doesn't excuse what he did. Number one, for the obvious to go on a stage with the Trump administration, knowing what they have done and what they're doing to the black community, just not even just the black community alone, but just the world, the world.
00:45:21
Speaker 2: And- Farmers, gas prices.
00:45:25
Speaker 1: I mean, just the state of where we are as a country, to be on a stage, especially as a black man and understanding what that Trump administration is doing to the black and brown community, that says enough right there. If you think about what he has done, and there's some others that have been in his situation that seem like they're politicking and they're doing it for whatever reasons. And it almost seems like it's a theme with all of them. Obviously, they're billionaires. They're doing something, I guess, doing it to gain something. a personal gain, but for me, this seems like a situation like if you can't beat them, join them.
00:46:09
Speaker 2: Some of those people are very prominent people who don't need the money. Right.
00:46:13
Speaker 3: And it feels like to me, because when I see our heroes lay down and do some of these things, I wonder if this administration has something on them.
00:46:26
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? If you don't do X, Y, and Z, we're going to let people know about X, Y, and Z. And so that's why I'm not so quick to judge.
00:46:35
Speaker 1: And for me, this is disheartening what Shaq did, especially in response to this guy.
00:46:40
Speaker 4: Obviously, he didn't know who the guy is. I guess I'm sure he knows who he is now.
00:46:43
Speaker 2: Sure.
00:46:44
Speaker 4: There's timing to everything. There's a time and a place for everything.
00:46:47
Speaker 1: Maybe you could have gotten this award some other time, but this wasn't the time to do it. And I think, honestly, yeah, this is not a good look.
00:46:55
Speaker 4: If I know Shaq.
00:46:56
Speaker 2: We're going through the midterms coming up.
00:46:58
Speaker 4: Right.
00:46:58
Speaker 1: If I know Shaq and I know he a person to carry, he's going to apologize.
00:47:00
Speaker 4: He's going to apologize.
00:47:01
Speaker 2: That was my next sentence. What does he have to do to get back into good grace? And it's not just black people.
00:47:06
Speaker 4: Right. It's just like. Bro, he is a big representative to the black community.
00:47:11
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:47:11
Speaker 4: Again, yeah.
00:47:12
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, not only black people are disappointed in what he did.
00:47:15
Speaker 4: No, yeah, that's a lot of people disappointed. And I think just his wording, I think the DM that he sent to him. Yeah.
00:47:24
Speaker 2: And then here's another thing that's disappointing to me. I hear you, bro. You, Shaq, you're up here. Yeah, but I— You don't need to be DMing people and.
00:47:31
Speaker 1: Fighting people's comments. You're belittling somebody. You're demeaning people. You're punching down.
00:47:37
Speaker 4: He's talking to me. I ain't got no billion dollars. I'm broke, too, if that's the case. Everybody's broke when it— Compared to him, yeah.
00:47:43
Speaker 2: Compared to him.
00:47:45
Speaker 4: But it's just— honestly, it's just not a good look. And again, Shaq, you might not like what I got to say, bro. That was wrong.
00:47:53
Speaker 2: It was wrong.
00:47:54
Speaker 4: It was wrong in so many ways.
00:47:55
Speaker 1: And I think, I'm sure if he has a PR team, but just a moral obligation to do the right thing, I think he.
00:48:02
Speaker 4: Should and he will do the right thing.
00:48:04
Speaker 1: Shaq, if you want to come on this, we had to get another, put both of these couches together to sit your big butt in there. But if you want to come on the show, man, come on and get to the point. And hey, man, you got a chance to say what you need to say to address it, to dress me, to dress us. Come on to get to the point, man. We want you right here.
00:48:24
Speaker 2: We love it. And we have a little trash can for your badge.
00:48:26
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, because that badge is trash. You didn't need that.
00:48:31
Speaker 1: Like I said, there's a time and a place for everything. This was not the time. Like I said, with the climate of where our country is, to be receiving some honorary.
00:48:42
Speaker 4: What, agent badge?
00:48:43
Speaker 2: Yes. Come on. Shaq, man.
00:48:47
Speaker 3: All right. Did you see this Converse ad? This controversial Converse ad.
00:48:51
Speaker 4: I saw it.
00:48:51
Speaker 2: For those of you who have Been living under a rock.
00:48:55
Speaker 3: Converse came out with an ad where there's a silhouette kind of what looks like a Ku Klux Klan robe and two black Chuck Taylor sneakers hanging dangling from it.
00:49:08
Speaker 2: What did you think when you first saw it?
00:49:11
Speaker 4: I just thought about the controversial ads that have already been out, like your H & M back some years ago and then.
00:49:20
Speaker 1: The Target ad with the costume. This is obviously a problem. It's no different than.
00:49:30
Speaker 1: I think this sparked the reason why people are no longer.
00:49:34
Speaker 4: I know a lot of black people are boycotting Target. There's no black people in the room.
00:49:40
Speaker 3: And that's why DEI is so important. So you can have us in the room. Cause if there was somebody black in the room, they'd be like, um, we're not going to do that.
00:49:47
Speaker 1: Well, again, it just, it seems like they won't, you know, I ain't gonna say it's, it's hard to, it's not a hard sale to get our products in there because again, when we're in their stores, we're, we're.
00:49:59
Speaker 4: Making them money.
00:49:59
Speaker 2: Number one consumers.
00:50:01
Speaker 4: We're making them money.
00:50:02
Speaker 1: Um, so obviously they know what we bring to their, to their product, to their company, to their product.
00:50:09
Speaker 4: Um, This is just not a good look.
00:50:11
Speaker 1: And then I think this is what everybody has been up in arms about is that this whole DEI thing.
00:50:17
Speaker 4: You don't have enough DEI employees and obviously you.
00:50:19
Speaker 1: Don't have a lot of black employees or representation in these rooms that are making these executive decisions.
00:50:27
Speaker 2: Or at least someone to raise their hand and go, we shouldn't do that.
00:50:30
Speaker 4: And then the thing too, I don't know.
00:50:33
Speaker 1: Do you think if they had somebody black representation in the room, do you think they would say something? I don't know.
00:50:41
Speaker 4: We don't know that. I mean, we're speculating.
00:50:44
Speaker 2: Well, not all skin folk is kin folk. I get that. If Jason Whitlock's in the room, it might not happen.
00:50:51
Speaker 4: But that's my point.
00:50:52
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, if we have the right people.
00:50:54
Speaker 4: Well, that's what I'm saying. We don't know.
00:50:55
Speaker 1: All they will see is somebody of color. They will maybe just fill in quotas just to put somebody in that category. in that space to represent people of color, but that doesn't mean that they're going to go in and if they're presenting this idea, this ad, this campaign, that they're going to be opposed to it or have some pushback.
00:51:14
Speaker 3: You know why I know it's true, what you're saying, is because even when the ad came out, there were black people going.
00:51:20
Speaker 2: Look at these libtards or whatever you want to say.
00:51:23
Speaker 3: This is what the ad really looked like and they showed the whole full picture with the Asian athlete, with the converse, but it wasn't even the same.
00:51:30
Speaker 2: It wasn't the same Asian woman and it wasn't the same picture, the.
00:51:33
Speaker 3: Skirt was shorter or longer, the converse were different, but they wanted, you know, just like they do, they run the Massa.
00:51:39
Speaker 2: Massa wouldn't do no pictures like that. Here go the real pictures. That ain't, that ain't.
00:51:44
Speaker 1: So was this, I think, was this ad made over in, was it here in the States, or was it in Asia, or somebody from Asia?
00:51:51
Speaker 2: No, it's an Asian athlete, but it's a converse ad.
00:51:54
Speaker 1: Right, but it's almost like, I think Godfrey did, the comedian, the black guy Godfrey, he did some, um, He posted something about the word, I guess, over and so it was the word nigga.
00:52:05
Speaker 4: It means something different over there, but it's different. It means something.
00:52:09
Speaker 2: Totally different here. They spell it totally different too.
00:52:11
Speaker 1: Right.
00:52:11
Speaker 4: But it's the pronunciation of the word.
00:52:13
Speaker 2: It's the same, yeah.
00:52:14
Speaker 4: Right. So again, to your point, it's like, did it really mean the same thing?
00:52:19
Speaker 2: No, because it was made for here. It just happened to be an Asian athlete.
00:52:23
Speaker 4: I just wanted to. Put that out there.
00:52:26
Speaker 2: They needed a nigga in the room to make sure that didn't happen.
00:52:29
Speaker 4: They needed a ninja.
00:52:30
Speaker 2: Let's talk about your boy.
00:52:32
Speaker 3: Listen, in this era, I compare this dude to you a little bit, Anthony Edwards, in terms of his energy, his humor.
00:52:41
Speaker 2: Okay. This is some shit you would have probably have done.
00:52:45
Speaker 4: So the antics.
00:52:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, this last little thing they did where he did a commercial, but they kind of set it up like it was a roast.
00:52:53
Speaker 2: It's not a commercial.
00:52:54
Speaker 3: Whatever he did, they set up like a roast and he kind of talked bad about other players, people on his team.
00:53:01
Speaker 4: So you're trying to say I talk bad about other players?
00:53:03
Speaker 3: No, I'm saying you're funny and you're dark. So that's why you reminded me of him. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying he has a personality.
00:53:10
Speaker 4: No, no, he's very charismatic.
00:53:14
Speaker 1: And then obviously, again, with all these ads and things that he's doing, Now people are starting to attack him like, oh, you're doing all of this.
00:53:20
Speaker 4: You need to bring some championships. Yes. You need to bring some championships to the table.
00:53:26
Speaker 2: Right, before you start.
00:53:27
Speaker 4: Right, before you start attacking. But did you think it was funny? Yeah.
00:53:31
Speaker 1: I mean, it's branding. It's Adidas. It's what they're doing to support their star athlete. Guess what he's doing? He's bringing eyeballs to Anthony and he's bringing eyeballs to Adidas. So guess what? Mission accomplished. You had some tidbits, some pointers for him while he was doing that roast. What would you tell him to do?
00:53:51
Speaker 3: No, no, he just was kind of rocking. Just stand your ground and tell your jokes.
00:53:57
Speaker 4: Right. Because the material was funny. To your point, they don't have somebody in....
00:54:01
Speaker 1: On that ad campaign of color to really tell him.
00:54:05
Speaker 2: Like, yeah. No, it's not even of color in this particular situation. Well. They needed someone.
00:54:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right. With experience.
00:54:10
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:54:11
Speaker 4: The optics of what an actual comedian would be doing. His mannerisms, demeanor. Yeah, because he was rocking.
00:54:18
Speaker 2: Like he was. A little nervous.
00:54:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, like the national anthem.
00:54:21
Speaker 3: And a lot of times when you see people who are non-comedians do stand-up, that's kind of how they find to kind of get their place to make them feel comfortable.
00:54:30
Speaker 2: So Adidas.
00:54:30
Speaker 4: Yeah. My number is 818-535. Yeah.
00:54:31
Speaker 2: I'll help you with the rest of your time.
00:54:34
Speaker 4: They should have done some study on comedians and roles or whatever.
00:54:37
Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
00:54:37
Speaker 4: They didn't do their homework. It was just, you know, again.
00:54:40
Speaker 2: But the material was great.
00:54:41
Speaker 4: You thought so?
00:54:42
Speaker 2: I thought the material was funny.
00:54:43
Speaker 4: You thought it was funny? Yes.
00:54:45
Speaker 2: The lamella ball joke was funny.
00:54:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, again, it wasn't just against all other players. It was his own teammates. He roasted. Nobody is safe.
00:54:55
Speaker 2: Yes. God, I don't want to talk about this, but we got to say something. We got to say something. What? All right. Tyler Perry on the Jennifer Hudson show. Did you see the dance?
00:55:07
Speaker 4: Yes.
00:55:08
Speaker 2: Okay, that's all.
00:55:09
Speaker 4: All right.
00:55:11
Speaker 3: You know what was funny though? Besides the dance, I know Tyler's like, why did I do that? All the people who mimicked it and went viral from it.
00:55:19
Speaker 4: What?
00:55:20
Speaker 2: There was at least six or seven.
00:55:23
Speaker 4: Spice Adams, I'm looking for a Drewski. Oh, you know he's coming. Oh, he's doing something right now.
00:55:30
Speaker 2: Yes, but I know Tyler was like, what made me do this?
00:55:34
Speaker 4: Do you know why he did that? Can you tell me?
00:55:36
Speaker 2: I don't know. You grew up in the church. Who does that in the church?
00:55:39
Speaker 4: Wow. I don't know. But he was like, Tyler, we invite you to come on the show and tell us, what is this?
00:55:48
Speaker 1: Did he forget that he was going on the show? Did he think he was doing Madea? Do you think he was kind of like conflicted? Like he kind of maybe had an out-of-body experience?
00:55:57
Speaker 2: Or maybe he was doing it as Madea. Yeah, I was just saying. To let everybody know. In case you didn't think that I was Madea, I'm Madea.
00:56:05
Speaker 4: He does it so much. Right. Like he just heard something that just triggered him.
00:56:10
Speaker 2: It might just be stuck in him.
00:56:12
Speaker 4: Yeah. Madea is just ever present.
00:56:14
Speaker 2: Ever present.
00:56:15
Speaker 4: At any given time. We got a new segment for you this week, Chris.
00:56:18
Speaker 2: Yes. It's called Crisscrossed.
00:56:20
Speaker 4: What?
00:56:20
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:56:21
Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about some motherfuckers that have crisscrossed me. And it's usually something they said, something they did, or something that I witnessed happen.
00:56:29
Speaker 2: This week, who crisscrossed me, I've known this kid 25 years plus.
00:56:33
Speaker 4: That could be anybody.
00:56:34
Speaker 2: Aries Spears. He just.
00:56:39
Speaker 4: Did something not too long ago.
00:56:42
Speaker 3: Well, first, last week, he said that he didn't understand all the hoopla about Bernie Mac.
00:56:51
Speaker 4: Right, and Martin.
00:56:52
Speaker 3: And then he said the Martin show, he felt— Wasn't funny. Not necessarily not funny, but he thought it was too over-the-top and buffoonish. And I don't know if you watched some of the sketches he did on Mad TV. I know it's a sketch show, but some of those things are borderline buffoonish as well. Sometimes it's just comedy, you know what I mean? What's funny about our people, we call ourselves buffoons, but when like Jim Carrey or Jerry Lewis do it, it's just straight comedy. So it's usually us judging ourselves. But this week, Aries Spears had the nerve to say that this movie that made over $ 1.
00:57:25
Speaker 2: 3 billion was just okay. What movie was that?
00:57:34
Speaker 4: Michael Jackson?
00:57:35
Speaker 2: Nope. Black Panther.
00:57:39
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, you know, we were at, I'm paraphrasing, we were at a certain time and Black Lives Matter and all that stuff was going on.
00:57:48
Speaker 2: But now that we look back, was the movie that good?
00:57:51
Speaker 1: Right?
00:57:51
Speaker 3: And then he also said number two sucked, which also did $ 840 million.
00:57:55
Speaker 4: Does he have something against black people?
00:57:57
Speaker 3: So what pissed me off is he said it on his podcast, Spears and Steinberg, and he said it in front of them.
00:58:05
Speaker 2: It wasn't in the barbershop. It wasn't in the beauty shop. He said it in front of them.
00:58:11
Speaker 4: I know what he's doing, though. He don't really mean what he's saying.
00:58:14
Speaker 2: So what's he doing? Is this for algorithms?
00:58:17
Speaker 4: Clickbait. That's all it's got. Bro, that's all it is. Because guess what? Guess what he got us doing? Talking about it two damn weeks in a row. Right.
00:58:27
Speaker 1: Right.
00:58:28
Speaker 2: You got us, Aries, and you too, Mr. Steinberg.
00:58:31
Speaker 1: That's what he, bro, that's, he's the only one that's thinking like this, bro. Nobody has ever said that.
00:58:37
Speaker 2: Never.
00:58:38
Speaker 4: Why would he say that, number one? Aries, come on, bro. Why, don't tear us down.
00:58:45
Speaker 2: In front of them, especially.
00:58:48
Speaker 4: To get ahead, bro, that's not the formula. Don't do that, bro.
00:58:52
Speaker 2: Do we want him on the show?
00:58:53
Speaker 4: I mean, he come on the show. He might say, get to the point ain't shit. He's going to say, get to the point ain't shit. After you come on, then you can go say, get to the point. Tio and Chris ain't shit. Come on. It's disappointing.
00:59:13
Speaker 2: It's disappointing.
00:59:14
Speaker 4: I've known this guy a long time.
00:59:16
Speaker 2: I've known him a long time.
00:59:17
Speaker 3: And just to see this new route he's taken with controversy, I'm not sure. I mean, usually his material is controversial.
00:59:26
Speaker 2: Sure.
00:59:26
Speaker 3: He talks about a lot of things in his act, but to talk about us and people within the industry and, you know, Martin is an icon for us.
00:59:37
Speaker 2: Bro.
00:59:37
Speaker 3: He's on many people's Mount Rushmore of comedy. You don't shit on Martin in front of them.
00:59:42
Speaker 4: Bro, Black Panther, I mean, Black Panther, that's an iconic movie in itself.
00:59:47
Speaker 2: Highest grossing black movie. Chad, what's that? Chad Boseman.
00:59:51
Speaker 4: Chad Bozeman who played Black Panther. Michael B.
00:59:55
Speaker 2: Jordan.
00:59:56
Speaker 4: Michael B. Jordan. Bro, these are people that are elevating the black community.
01:00:01
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
01:00:03
Speaker 1: And then you want to disgrace them, demean them, tear them down to, I guess, elevate yourself. We've always said this in our community. We're always tearing our own down, which is why we can't get ahead.
01:00:16
Speaker 4: Right. And this is very indicative of it. Him, Aries... with this, and then you.
01:00:21
Speaker 1: Got Shaq, you know, doing what he's doing. These are two prominent figures within the black community.
01:00:28
Speaker 2: I would call Aries prominent figure.
01:00:30
Speaker 4: We're talking about him? Yeah. He's in the comedic.
01:00:32
Speaker 3: I'm saying he's not a prominent figure in the community per se.
01:00:36
Speaker 4: Well, in the comedian space.
01:00:37
Speaker 2: Definitely.
01:00:39
Speaker 4: Right. Maybe not in the community, but yeah, but in that space where he represents comedy.
01:00:44
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely.
01:00:45
Speaker 4: Is what I was alluding to. Yeah. But yeah, man, we have to do better. We have to do better.
01:00:52
Speaker 1: So yeah, Aries, come on on the show, man, because I want you to get to the point of your madness because this.
01:00:58
Speaker 4: Is two weeks in a row. What's next? What's next?
01:01:02
Speaker 2: So what a show.
01:01:05
Speaker 4: Man, what?
01:01:07
Speaker 2: I hope some of those people that we called out on will come on here and talk.
01:01:12
Speaker 4: No, we give them an open.
01:01:12
Speaker 3: Because these are actually people we know. We have their phone numbers.
01:01:16
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:01:16
Speaker 2: And in the words of Ricky Ricardo, they got some splanning to do.
01:01:19
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:01:20
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01:01:31
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01:01:32
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