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Ladies and gentlemen my name is Chris Collier
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I have a great guest today.
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I have Jenny Ambrose.
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Welcome to the show, Jenny.
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Hi.
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Thanks for having me.
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It's my pleasure.
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Jenny welcome to the show again.
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Glad to have you here tell us a little bit
about yourself where you're from where you
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located what you do
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Nbd so I am an award winning artist designer,
and business owner.
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I run Purifantastico, a design science and
strategy business that blends anthropology,
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design messaging, emotional intelligence, and
critical thinking so that I can make a big
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impact for my clients and they can make a big
impact, therefore influencing culture.
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So you're pretty much if Thanos' gauntlet.
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Well, I mean, for me, it's sort of like
recognizing the flower and the leaf and the
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stem and the root.
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And the background behind it that caught
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The background the whole picture.
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I mean, it's just the way my brain works, so I
made a business that supports that because I
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wasn't satisfied being half in the other worlds
I was in.
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I had to come up with a name.
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I gotta ask you.
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I know you didn't talk about that, but puree.
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Puree fantastical.
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Two languages, French and Spanish, that I don't
speak, but it is the perfect embodiment for my
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approach.
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So it's one of my favorite stories ever.
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It's 2007.
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I'm sitting in JFK Airport looking through a
design annual time to publish it.
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Losing my mind with giddiness.
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Just be like, oh, there's a word.
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Yeah.
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Not cool.
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And so I'm sitting there thinking, how can I
possibly tell people all of the things that I
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can do, all the things that I'm truly good at
doing in an easy way like that?
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And my brain goes, puree Fantastica.
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And I'm sitting there like, that's not a thing
you say, brain.
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Like, that's not an answer, but it was for me.
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And so I thought maybe that's like a soul I
heard or like a TV show or something.
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But you said a song you heard.
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Look.
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This is a repository for the most random
things.
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I was listening to Creedence Clearwater
Revival, down on the corner out in the street.
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And I remembered a 1988 commercial with these
stupid little cassette tapes that did a cover
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of that Creedence Clearwater song, and I'm
like, I was 4.
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Why am I remembering this dumb commercial?
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That's just how my brain works.
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Because it the the it's a monomonic device,
really.
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You remember that because of the cassette
tapes, little cassette tapes and whatnot.
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And it's stuck in your head because it was like
a cartoon to you.
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You were a kid.
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Right?
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It's just something that never has left.
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And there's so many instances where it's like,
yep.
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I remember seeing that cartoon when I was 2
sitting on my grandma's bed.
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My memory is just insane.
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So puree fantastical.
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I bought the domain when I realized that there
was nothing there.
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And when I was ready to do my own business,
there was never another name for me that was
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better than that one.
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That is great.
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And what does that actually mean to you?
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Like, I mean, I understand you were asking, you
know, your brain, yourself.
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What what but what does it mean?
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Like, now you've got some motion and some,
momentum behind it.
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What does it actually mean?
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Because, like, when I look at it just to be
honest, I'm I'm not putting you down.
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I'm sometimes I'm funny.
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When I think of it, I think about all these
ideas put in a blender.
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Yeah.
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And it comes out fantastic.
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And then you're not wrong.
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When the pandemic first hit, I'm looking up
when I don't have enough time.
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I have enough time now to illustrate.
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And I illustrated the most ridiculous image
that was a 1950 style artichoke holding books,
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a golden blender, and, like, rainbows coming
out of it.
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I'm like, this is my mask up.
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This is correct.
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And it is that.
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It is a fullness.
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It is a silliness.
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It is an openness to creating things that
should be in this world and are not yet.
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Oh, that's great.
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I I think that that's something that needs to,
happen more.
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We we need more people creating things that
don't exist that should exist.
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That's innovation.
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Let's go back a minute though because we we
kinda started in the middle.
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Right?
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So let's go back.
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How'd you get to that place of that puree
fantastical hitting your head?
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We got to JFK, but let's go back before that.
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How'd you get to all that?
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Well, I've always been a very creative person.
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At 18 months, I was wriggling out of my crib to
draw at my Sesame Street table, putting on
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Sesame Street by myself, and just scribbles,
ripping it off, being like, it's perfect.
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And so right away, my parents, like, she is an
artist.
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And while that was true, I also learned how to
sew.
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I was dancing.
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I learned how to play guitar.
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I was doing commercials, creative, creative,
creative, creative.
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But I did not think that you could get a job in
creativity.
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I was like, well, I'm gonna go with my other
passion, which is learning, which is culture,
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which is language.
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Even from, like, the age of 6, I would imitate
the Chinese movies my parents were watching
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from behind the couch and just make the sounds
like an annoying child does because I was so
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fascinated with the differences.
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And so school was my best friend.
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In there, I took art classes.
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I loved math classes.
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I loved science classes.
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I loved everything.
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And when it came time to pick my career, I went
with something academic.
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I went with anthropology because that was
serious and loved it, had a great time, while
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also making stickers and t shirts and whatever
for myself using MS Paint.
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Because I didn't need the fancy tools.
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I just wanted to have fun, and that's how I
started.
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I would put the stickers on my car and I would
get notes from random people downtown.
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I want the sticker.
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Here's my phone.
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And it was just accepting that my fun is
actually an equitable experience.
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That took some time.
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I was Let's let's let's stop right there a
second.
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That is this is something most entrepreneurs
and I wanted to say is pre
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entrepreneurs Yeah.
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Pre thought leaders, pre, influencers don't
realize you have some intrinsic value in what
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you do even in the fun you have.
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Yes.
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You've got business isn't always serious.
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I would venture to say that my success is all
from following the joy.
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Following the joy.
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It's why my backdrop is so outrageously joyful
because it makes me happy.
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And if I'm happy coming into this office,
sitting in my job, my clients are gonna be
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happy.
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My work is gonna be awesomely happy.
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I see no reason to change this, and so I never
will.
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So someone could say that the sess in success
is silliness.
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I would say that.
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But there is that confidence that comes with,
am I going to be taken seriously?
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And I would say, I get taken seriously even
more because I have the hush, but I'd be like,
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guess what we do right now.
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Exactly.
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And then you plan, and people feel at ease with
something that's maybe
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challenging.
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It takes the salesiness away.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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You're
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not the sleazy saleswoman, that that's going
buy, buy, buy.
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And my first job was a bill collector, at 16,
working for a scam telemarketing firm.
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So I very much understand the, I don't care.
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It's Christmas.
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Pay your bill.
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And that's not something I mean, at 16, you're
on the phone while you look at a tabloid, it's
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not caring, not connecting about the people
that are on the other end.
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As an adult, no, it's definitely not the same
thing for me.
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And after I worked in the corporate
environment, incorporating empathy, and
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emotional intelligence became even more
important because it's so easy to say, you
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know, design makes things beautiful, design
makes things cool, and that's true, but design
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makes things work.
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Design connects with people.
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Design moves and inspires people while also
looking.
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But it does a job.
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And so for me, as long as that job includes the
people that I'm working with and for, I am
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improving the design industry as a whole by
including that piece.
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So you you you you got you grew up being all
things fun and imaginative and you know, I I
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really think in your logo, you gotta have a
skeleton for anthropology.
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You think so?
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That's archaeology.
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Anthropology is But it's
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all the way everything's connected, kind of.
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You know, I was thinking more in a way
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Anthropology is more like why we as Americans
eat turkey and cranberry sauce on Thanksgiving.
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Or black eyed peas on New Year's.
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It's these it's these strange, and wonderful
rituals and choices that we have in our culture
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that we take for granted.
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It's the the cliches and the idioms and these
weird messages that we recreate and repurpose.
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And when I went to design school to learn it
the right way, because I did learn design on my
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own, I just didn't feel like that validated the
trueness of what I wanted to do.
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So I put myself through design school, took out
a $100,000 worth of loans.
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Will never regret it ever.
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I saw design as a way to connect those stories
and those messages.
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Wow.
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No one else did.
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Let me just, like, announce that loudly.
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Nobody else understood the things that were so
clear to me.
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I mentioned math earlier.
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It's because for me, math is it is a language
that shows connection, shows relationships, it
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shows wonderful, wonderful things.
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And in art school, it was like, maths.
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Why would you use math?
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Because it's the best way to show a
relationship between people.
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It is the clearest and most concise way.
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Duh.
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Obviously, not obvious.
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No.
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It's not.
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Nope.
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But to me, so stupidly obvious.
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It's like we're both looking at the blue sky.
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That's obvious.
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This is also obvious.
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So I should have seen the fact that I was gonna
be an entrepreneur way earlier than I did, but
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I I didn't see it.
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I really wanted, like, the job with the people.
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Like, the whole office fantasy, I'm very much
one of that.
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But I am outspoken, and I am ambitious, and I
am determined.
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And I don't understand if I've upset you.
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I did not mean to step on your toes.
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I'm just pitching an idea.
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That's too you.
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I did not mean to step on your toes.
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I'm just pitching an idea.
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That's too upsetting?
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I'm sorry.
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Like, it was just not a conducive environment
for someone who's so full.
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Creative?
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With
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When you deal with corporate, they want you in
your in a box.
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Right?
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They want you we want you you come up with a
solution, but you gotta stay in the box to do
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it.
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Don't go outside the box because
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There is no box.
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And that's the issue with Jenny Ambrose is I
see no box.
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I see space, and I see tentacles, and I see
glitter, and I see all this weirdness.
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I see no confiding.
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Gravity is my box.
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work.
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Everything else.
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That's cool.
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So you got a design school.
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You you did the the layout, and you're giddy
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Yep.
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And you came up with Puree Fantastico.
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I had a corporate job for 6 months where I
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before the 2008 financial crash because timing.
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But it's true.
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It was such a bad fit, such a bad fit because I
had gone from, an internship where I took the
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admissions office of the school I went to, of
my design school, and changed the way that they
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accepted students, changed the way that they
treated that process, and took them from 33% to
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77%.
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I changed their whole game.
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So I came in being like, I am smart.
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I know what I'm doing.
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This is what I'm here to do with my life.
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And the corporate agency was like, yes, but
you're too much.
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But and I'm like, you know what?
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This is not for me.
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This is not for me.
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And the the positivity that I experienced so
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telling me what I was doing was wrong because
it felt so it's like we're just not the same,
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and that's okay.
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It's like it's like you're communicating one
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Well, I really did feel like I had 8 heads
growing out of my armpit.
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It's like I'm not an alien.
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I am a human just like you.
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I am human just like you.
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And in the corporate attitude, they just suck
the humanity right out.
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So I left being like, I will figure out another
way.
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I will figure this out another way and left New
York.
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I moved back in with my mom.
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Super cool.
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And within a couple of months, I was found on
Behance, which is like a free portfolio site
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from a Moldovan company.
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So in Eastern Europe, needed a female designer
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So within, like, 2 months, I've got 10 clients.
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Within 6 months, I'm design director for their
entire team.
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So I am, like, if there is a box, it expands
perpetually as I expand.
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So here I am on my own.
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At this point, I'm living in Los Angeles.
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I'm working from 7 AM to 2 AM because they're 7
hours ahead.
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And I'm greeting them as they come in, and I'm
saying, here's what you need to do.
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And I'm working until they leave, and it's
like, okay.
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What do I have to do?
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And it's just this crazy situation.
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And I got fired for asking for a raise.
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So you're like, that's great, man.
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I'm working on 20 clients at once, managing a
team of 20 men who most of them did listen, but
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there were some that would not even participate
because I was a woman.
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Where do you even go with that mess?
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I just wanna make some brands.
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And while that's happening, I'm getting
American greetings in my inbox.
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Wanted me to name and design their blog and do
lines of cards, and I've got, POPSUGAR in my
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inbox.
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I need you you need to design their, their
beauty award show.
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And so it was at that point where I'm like, you
know what?
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Screw this.
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I don't need it.
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Now is the time to move forward with Puree
Fantastico, and that's when I finally had the
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balls to do it.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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And so what are you currently working on?
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I'm currently working on 2 very different
websites.
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1 is for a therapist that I branded and wrote
his copy, and it's a therapist website.
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The other is for a business coach where I
branded and I give her company and I'm giving
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her marketing, and it is like absurdist
craziness explosion that is pushing my own
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creativity because it's like breaking all the
rules.
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And it's like, are you sure?
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This is what I want.
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I want it crazy.
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I want it to look crazy so that people know I'm
right for them and people don't know I'm right
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for them.
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It's like, okay.
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Let's do it.
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And so I'm working on that.
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And then there is a 13 year long research
project that I've been working on.
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That's my side, maybe.
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That shows people the way that I approach
design and think about it in a way that is
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exploratory and hopefully fun.
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Because to me, it happens instantly.
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It's like recognizing a face.
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So I was really tired of people not
understanding that.
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And so I'm like, let me try.
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Let me try.
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And 13 years later, it is about to launch.
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Yay.
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So, Jenny, how can people find you if they
wanna get in contact with you?
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Puree fantastical.com, facebook@puree
fantastical, and Instagram atpureefantastico.
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Cool.
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Cool.
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And do you have a favorite quote?
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I am not the same person who started this
sentence.
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That that's funny.
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That's a good one.
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Look at I'm gonna add one more segment to to
the podcast.
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This is brand new.
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Just came to me.
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I'm a blame you because you're so outside the
box and so sad.
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I'm blaming you for this.
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It's ask the host of questions.
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You gotta come up with a question to ask me
that I have to answer.
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Okay.
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What does home feel like?
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Home feels like a good pair of I can't think of
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A good pair of, what do they call those shoes?
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Not shower shoes, but the Slippers.
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Slippers.
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Like, a good pair of slippers.
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Home.
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Fresh cut grass.
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I was gonna say fresh baked apple pie.
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The smell
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something I ask every incoming client.
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I love those weird abstract questions because
they really help you to get to know people
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through all of the things that we think we
should say and think we should be.
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There's that truth in there that really does
come out when you ask more weird questions.
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Those were the 2 those were the 2 things I was
thinking about.
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A nice pair of slippers, fresh baked apple pie.
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Comfort.
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Well, I wanna thank my guest, Jenny Ambrose,
for being on today.
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Thank you so much for being on.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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It's been a pleasure.
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And I want to thank each of you for listening
or watching to being on what platform you are
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on.
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Please like, share, subscribe.
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And if you're on YouTube hit that notification
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And thank you so much.
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Have a great day.
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Ladies and gentlemen my name is Chris Collier
The host of Conquer with Chris, the podcast you
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Jenny welcome to the show again.
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Glad to have you here tell us a little bit
about yourself where you're from where you
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located what you do
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Nbd so I am an award winning artist designer,
and business owner.
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I run Purifantastico, a design science and
strategy business that blends anthropology,
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design messaging, emotional intelligence, and
critical thinking so that I can make a big
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impact for my clients and they can make a big
impact, therefore influencing culture.
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So you're pretty much if Thanos' gauntlet.
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Well, I mean, for me, it's sort of like
recognizing the flower and the leaf and the
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stem and the root.
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And the background behind it that caught
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The background the whole picture.
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I mean, it's just the way my brain works, so I
made a business that supports that because I
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wasn't satisfied being half in the other worlds
I was in.
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I had to come up with a name.
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I gotta ask you.
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I know you didn't talk about that, but puree.
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Puree fantastical.
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Two languages, French and Spanish, that I don't
speak, but it is the perfect embodiment for my
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approach.
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So it's one of my favorite stories ever.
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It's 2007.
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I'm sitting in JFK Airport looking through a
design annual time to publish it.
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Losing my mind with giddiness.
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Just be like, oh, there's a word.
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Yeah.
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Not cool.
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And so I'm sitting there thinking, how can I
possibly tell people all of the things that I
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can do, all the things that I'm truly good at
doing in an easy way like that?
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And my brain goes, puree Fantastica.
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And I'm sitting there like, that's not a thing
you say, brain.
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Like, that's not an answer, but it was for me.
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And so I thought maybe that's like a soul I
heard or like a TV show or something.
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But you said a song you heard.
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Look.
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This is a repository for the most random
things.
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I was listening to Creedence Clearwater
Revival, down on the corner out in the street.
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And I remembered a 1988 commercial with these
stupid little cassette tapes that did a cover
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of that Creedence Clearwater song, and I'm
like, I was 4.
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Why am I remembering this dumb commercial?
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That's just how my brain works.
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Because it the the it's a monomonic device,
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You remember that because of the cassette
tapes, little cassette tapes and whatnot.
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And it's stuck in your head because it was like
a cartoon to you.
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You were a kid.
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Right?
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It's just something that never has left.
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And there's so many instances where it's like,
yep.
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I remember seeing that cartoon when I was 2
sitting on my grandma's bed.
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My memory is just insane.
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So puree fantastical.
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I bought the domain when I realized that there
was nothing there.
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And when I was ready to do my own business,
there was never another name for me that was
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better than that one.
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That is great.
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And what does that actually mean to you?
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Like, I mean, I understand you were asking, you
know, your brain, yourself.
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Yeah.
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What what but what does it mean?
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Like, now you've got some motion and some,
momentum behind it.
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What does it actually mean?
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Because, like, when I look at it just to be
honest, I'm I'm not putting you down.
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I'm sometimes I'm funny.
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When I think of it, I think about all these
ideas put in a blender.
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Yeah.
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And it comes out fantastic.
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Yeah.
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And then you're not wrong.
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When the pandemic first hit, I'm looking up
when I don't have enough time.
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I have enough time now to illustrate.
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And I illustrated the most ridiculous image
that was a 1950 style artichoke holding books,
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a golden blender, and, like, rainbows coming
out of it.
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I'm like, this is my mask up.
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This is correct.
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It is an openness to creating things that
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I I think that that's something that needs to,
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We we need more people creating things that
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That's innovation.
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Let's go back a minute though because we we
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So let's go back.
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How'd you get to that place of that puree
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We got to JFK, but let's go back before that.
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How'd you get to all that?
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At 18 months, I was wriggling out of my crib to
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Sesame Street by myself, and just scribbles,
ripping it off, being like, it's perfect.
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And so right away, my parents, like, she is an
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I was doing commercials, creative, creative,
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I was like, well, I'm gonna go with my other
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from behind the couch and just make the sounds
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fascinated with the differences.
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I went with anthropology because that was
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I just wanted to have fun, and that's how I
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I would put the stickers on my car and I would
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I want the sticker.
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Here's my phone.
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I was Let's let's let's stop right there a
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That is this is something most entrepreneurs
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entrepreneurs Yeah.
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Pre thought leaders, pre, influencers don't
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you do even in the fun you have.
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You've got business isn't always serious.
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I would venture to say that my success is all
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Following the joy.
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It's why my backdrop is so outrageously joyful
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And if I'm happy coming into this office,
sitting in my job, my clients are gonna be
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happy.
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My work is gonna be awesomely happy.
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I see no reason to change this, and so I never
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So someone could say that the sess in success
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I would say that.
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But there is that confidence that comes with,
am I going to be taken seriously?
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And I would say, I get taken seriously even
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guess what we do right now.
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And then you plan, and people feel at ease with
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challenging.
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It takes the salesiness away.
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Right?
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You're
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not the sleazy saleswoman, that that's going
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And my first job was a bill collector, at 16,
working for a scam telemarketing firm.
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So I very much understand the, I don't care.
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It's Christmas.
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Pay your bill.
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And that's not something I mean, at 16, you're
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not caring, not connecting about the people
that are on the other end.
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As an adult, no, it's definitely not the same
thing for me.
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And after I worked in the corporate
environment, incorporating empathy, and
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emotional intelligence became even more
important because it's so easy to say, you
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know, design makes things beautiful, design
makes things cool, and that's true, but design
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makes things work.
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Design connects with people.
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Design moves and inspires people while also
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But it does a job.
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And so for me, as long as that job includes the
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improving the design industry as a whole by
including that piece.
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So you you you you got you grew up being all
things fun and imaginative and you know, I I
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really think in your logo, you gotta have a
skeleton for anthropology.
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You think so?
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That's archaeology.
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Anthropology is But it's
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all the way everything's connected, kind of.
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You know, I was thinking more in a way
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Anthropology is more like why we as Americans
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Or black eyed peas on New Year's.
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It's these it's these strange, and wonderful
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that we take for granted.
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It's the the cliches and the idioms and these
weird messages that we recreate and repurpose.
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And when I went to design school to learn it
the right way, because I did learn design on my
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own, I just didn't feel like that validated the
trueness of what I wanted to do.
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So I put myself through design school, took out
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Will never regret it ever.
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I saw design as a way to connect those stories
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No one else did.
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Let me just, like, announce that loudly.
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Nobody else understood the things that were so
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I mentioned math earlier.
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It's because for me, math is it is a language
that shows connection, shows relationships, it
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shows wonderful, wonderful things.
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And in art school, it was like, maths.
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Why would you use math?
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Because it's the best way to show a
relationship between people.
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It is the clearest and most concise way.
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Duh.
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Obviously, not obvious.
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It's not.
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Nope.
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But to me, so stupidly obvious.
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It's like we're both looking at the blue sky.
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That's obvious.
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This is also obvious.
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So I should have seen the fact that I was gonna
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I I didn't see it.
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I really wanted, like, the job with the people.
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Like, the whole office fantasy, I'm very much
one of that.
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But I am outspoken, and I am ambitious, and I
am determined.
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And I don't understand if I've upset you.
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I did not mean to step on your toes.
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I'm just pitching an idea.
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That's too you.
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I did not mean to step on your toes.
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I'm just pitching an idea.
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That's too upsetting?
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I'm sorry.
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Like, it was just not a conducive environment
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Creative?
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When you deal with corporate, they want you in
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They want you we want you you come up with a
solution, but you gotta stay in the box to do
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it.
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Don't go outside the box because
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There is no box.
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There is no box.
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And that's the issue with Jenny Ambrose is I
see no box.
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I see space, and I see tentacles, and I see
glitter, and I see all this weirdness.
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I see no confiding.
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Gravity is my box.
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Like, that's the truth where I'm like, I can't
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work.
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Everything else.
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That's cool.
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So you got a design school.
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You you did the the layout, and you're giddy
about your mag the magazine.
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Yep.
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And you came up with Puree Fantastico.
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And then from there, you
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I had a corporate job for 6 months where I
hated my entire life and then quit a few months
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before the 2008 financial crash because timing.
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It was such a bad fit, such a bad fit because I
had gone from, an internship where I took the
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admissions office of the school I went to, of
my design school, and changed the way that they
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accepted students, changed the way that they
treated that process, and took them from 33% to
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77%.
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I changed their whole game.
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So I came in being like, I am smart.
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I know what I'm doing.
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This is what I'm here to do with my life.
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And the corporate agency was like, yes, but
you're too much.
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Yes, but we don't like you.
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But and I'm like, you know what?
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This is not for me.
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This is not for me.
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And the the positivity that I experienced so
heavily was never going to react to someone
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telling me what I was doing was wrong because
it felt so it's like we're just not the same,
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and that's okay.
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It's like it's like you're communicating one
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Well, I really did feel like I had 8 heads
growing out of my armpit.
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It's like I'm not an alien.
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I am a human just like you.
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I am human just like you.
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And in the corporate attitude, they just suck
the humanity right out.
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So I left being like, I will figure out another
way.
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I will figure this out another way and left New
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I moved back in with my mom.
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Super cool.
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And within a couple of months, I was found on
Behance, which is like a free portfolio site
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from a Moldovan company.
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So in Eastern Europe, needed a female designer
for their female clients.
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So within, like, 2 months, I've got 10 clients.
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Within 6 months, I'm design director for their
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So I am, like, if there is a box, it expands
perpetually as I expand.
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And that's just the truth of it.
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So here I am on my own.
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At this point, I'm living in Los Angeles.
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I'm working from 7 AM to 2 AM because they're 7
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And I'm greeting them as they come in, and I'm
saying, here's what you need to do.
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And I'm working until they leave, and it's
like, okay.
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What do I have to do?
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And it's just this crazy situation.
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And I got fired for asking for a raise.
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So you're like, that's great, man.
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I'm working on 20 clients at once, managing a
team of 20 men who most of them did listen, but
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there were some that would not even participate
because I was a woman.
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Where do you even go with that mess?
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I just wanna make some brands.
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And while that's happening, I'm getting
American greetings in my inbox.
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Wanted me to name and design their blog and do
lines of cards, and I've got, POPSUGAR in my
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inbox.
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I need you you need to design their, their
beauty award show.
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And so it was at that point where I'm like, you
know what?
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Screw this.
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I don't need it.
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Now is the time to move forward with Puree
Fantastico, and that's when I finally had the
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balls to do it.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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And so what are you currently working on?
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I'm currently working on 2 very different
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1 is for a therapist that I branded and wrote
his copy, and it's a therapist website.
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The other is for a business coach where I
branded and I give her company and I'm giving
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her marketing, and it is like absurdist
craziness explosion that is pushing my own
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creativity because it's like breaking all the
rules.
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And it's like, are you sure?
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This is what I want.
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I want it crazy.
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I want it to look crazy so that people know I'm
right for them and people don't know I'm right
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for them.
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It's like, okay.
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Let's do it.
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Okay.
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And so I'm working on that.
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And then there is a 13 year long research
project that I've been working on.
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That's my side, maybe.
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That shows people the way that I approach
design and think about it in a way that is
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exploratory and hopefully fun.
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Because to me, it happens instantly.
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It's like recognizing a face.
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So I was really tired of people not
understanding that.
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And so I'm like, let me try.
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Let me try.
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And 13 years later, it is about to launch.
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Yay.
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So, Jenny, how can people find you if they
wanna get in contact with you?
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Puree fantastical.com, facebook@puree
fantastical, and Instagram atpureefantastico.
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Cool.
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Cool.
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And do you have a favorite quote?
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I am not the same person who started this
sentence.
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That that's funny.
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That's a good one.
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Look at I'm gonna add one more segment to to
the podcast.
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This is brand new.
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Just came to me.
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I'm a blame you because you're so outside the
box and so sad.
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I'm blaming you for this.
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It's ask the host of questions.
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You gotta come up with a question to ask me
that I have to answer.
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Okay.
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What does home feel like?
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Home feels like a good pair of I can't think of
the word.
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A good pair of, what do they call those shoes?
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Not shower shoes, but the Slippers.
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Slippers.
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Yeah.
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Like, a good pair of slippers.
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Home.
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Fresh cut grass.
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I was gonna say fresh baked apple pie.
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The smell
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something I ask every incoming client.
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I love those weird abstract questions because
they really help you to get to know people
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through all of the things that we think we
should say and think we should be.
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There's that truth in there that really does
come out when you ask more weird questions.
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Those were the 2 those were the 2 things I was
thinking about.
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A nice pair of slippers, fresh baked apple pie.
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Comfort.
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Well, I wanna thank my guest, Jenny Ambrose,
for being on today.
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Thank you so much for being on.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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It's been a pleasure.
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And I want to thank each of you for listening
or watching to being on what platform you are
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on.
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Please like, share, subscribe.
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And thank you so much.
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Have a great day.
