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Well, hello, my paranormal peeps, and welcome back to another Deepods panormal
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podcast. My name is Matt Harvey. I am the founder and the investigator
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with Deepoits Paranormal. My wife and
I, along with others, investigate everything
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paranormal in nature. Every week,
we will discuss everything from creepy haunted locations,
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to ghosts, to bigfoot, UFOs, dog man and other cryptic creatures
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and explore all things paranormal and nature. Well, hello, my paranoral peeps,
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and welcome back to another Depends paranormal
podcast. We are on today with
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Phil Webster. He is a psychic. He is also an actor, an
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author, and a teacher, so
he's quite the guy. He's been researching
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the paranormal and kind of researching mediumship
for a long time, and we'll well
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actually start there with him and then
maybe he can kind of talk about those
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four things. Yeah, Hi,
Yeah, thank you thanks for having me
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on it. It's a pleasure to
be here and meet you both. Yeah,
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we're really excited that with us.
Yeah, it's it's kind of it's
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what is it. It's like eleven
eleven at night over here or something like
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that. But yeah, you know, I'm just about still with it.
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But yeah, Yeah, the book
is called Letting Glow. It's been out
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since last spring. It's doing okay. First book that I've wrote, and
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I think like possibly the you know
that the sort of catalyst for it was
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an experience that I had around my
mum passing in twenty twenty one. So
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that was really something odd happened the
night before she died, and that really
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spurred me to to just sort of
go into this deep rabbit hole. You
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know. I'd always kind of like
had an eye on on sort of paranormal
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stuff. I hadn't really touched it
for many years, but then this this
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event that happened around my mum passing
kind of triggered like a bunch of memories
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and I was thinking, okay,
like this this kind of obviously that was
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a big thing in itself, losing
a parent, but what happened around it
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kind of made me look back on
other things that had happened over my life,
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and it was seen that every few
years something would be kind of tap
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me on the shoulder, like for
one of a better expression. So is
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the experience that you're talking about with
your mother? Is that in the book?
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Yeah, I mean, it's how
the book starts, so I mean
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I'm not really you know, ruining
too much in the first two pages.
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And it's an odd one, you
know, because again, yeah, I
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was really close with my mum.
She was she lived on a place called
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the Isle of Wight, which is
a small island at the south of England.
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I just kind of set this story
up just to sort of give sort
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of more relevance to what happened.
So it was the end of end of
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the whole COVID thing. It was
the start of twenty twenty one, so
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we've just been through Christmas, various
lockdowns, all that stuff, and I
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kept away thinking that I was doing
the right thing, you know. I
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was like listening to what the government
was saying and all that stuff. And
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I was also waiting for a job
on a big movie. It was like
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one of these big Marvel movies.
It was I see that You've got a
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Grogo behind you. It wasn't a
Star Wars movie, but it was Doctor
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Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.
Yes we've seen that. Yeah, So
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I was waiting to work on that
and I had like a good four month
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stretch on it, just like I
was just like one of the warriors in
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the whole camousage things. Nothing,
you know, it was good, you
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know, and I hadn't had any
work for a while, and it was
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a good stretch of work. And
if you caught COVID, they would have
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just kicked you off straight away.
So I was kind of mindful of that.
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And then I was also trying to
do the right thing by my mum
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anyway. So point being, I
hadn't seen her for a couple of months,
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and we've just gone through Christmas and
I just spent it with my partner.
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My mum was on her own on
the Isle of Wight, so that's
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a very rural place. She lived
alone. She was seventy six years old.
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She had various age related health problems, like you know, heart condition
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and high blood pressure. But I
thought, you know, she's going to
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be around for a while. She
would always bounce back from whatever, you
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know, kind of thing happened,
and anyway, so we would face time
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every day, and on this night, I think we'd spoke maybe two or
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three times that day already, and
she, you know, I kind of
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knew a routine, like I said, like I knew all the neighbors we
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didn't have any other family there.
It's a really quiet place and we were
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in another lockdown and I called her
on this evening and she kind of just
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to sort of explain it, like
sort of practically. She had her phone
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charging on the floor and as she
kind of leaned in to and she pressed
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the button to sort of answer the
call, she was leaning in one side
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and there was a man leaning in
from the other side. And I saw
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him long enough that I could like
describe him. He had like thinning gray
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hair, glasses, looked like he
was maybe mid sixties something like that.
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And I was kind of shocked,
you know. I was like, well,
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who the hell's that? You know, like, and as she picked
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the phone up, he kind of
went out of shot and she went and
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sat down, and I said,
I was like, well, who's that?
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And she said who's what? And
I was like, okay, because
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your mom lives alone. Yeah,
she lives alone. And I know all
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the neighbors. You know, she'd
been alone for pretty much a year through
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the whole COVID thing. I knew
her day to day routine. She was
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staying home, she was I mean, she she was suffering with depression and
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you know, that the whole lockdown
thing really hard times smart times. Yeah,
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you know, it was. It
was, you know, in hindsight,
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I wish would have done things differently. But anyway, so you know,
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I kind of knew her everybody that
lived near by all and plus I
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must mention it was like ten thirty
at nights something like that, so you
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know, there was no one there. And you know, I wasn't there
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obviously, so I can't one hundred
percent say there was absolutely nobody there,
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but I believe that there was no
one there. And I said, you
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know, who was that? And
she was like who is what? And
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I said, well, who was
the guy? You know? And she
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was like, no, idea what
you're talking about, you know, And
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she just started telling me about her
day and I said, mom, I
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said, sorry to interrupt. I
said, but who's the guy? And
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she was like, no one,
you know, you know, And she
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would always do this thing like if
there was somebody with her, and when
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she was on the phone, she
would kind of put on these airs and
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graces and speak a lot more politely, and it was like impossible to get
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a conversation out of it, you
know, And she wasn't doing any of
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that she was just being herself and
chatting away, and I thought, well,
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I don't know. Well, I
guess I was mistaken, you know,
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and although I know it's seen the
guy. And anyway, we spoke
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for like another thirty forty five minutes. She didn't acknowledge anyone at all,
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nobody sacred nights or nothing like.
That was a very small house. And
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then when I finished the call my
fiance she said, what was all that
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about? And I said, well, I saw someone, but she said
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there was no one there. Anyway, We went to bed the next morning,
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got the phone call from a neighbor
they couldn't get into the house,
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and my mama passed away from the
same night. Yeah, through the night
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or in the morning, I'm not
quite sure. And I never really sort
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of dug into it. I kind
of didn't want to know, you know,
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the full details, but I was
like, okay, well, you
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know, going through the shock of
all that, so it was just my
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mom hasn't already got any other family
or anything. This thing kind of sat
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at the back of my mind and
I was like, well, well,
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what was that, you know,
what what are we talking here? You
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know? And I kind of it
wasn't my main concern because I was grieving
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and you know, just crying non
stop, and it was it was horrible.
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You know, for anyone that's been
through that, you know, you
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know how it is. And one
thing I always say is kind of like,
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you know, when you lose a
parent, you really lose like that
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one witness to your life, right, you know that person, and you
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kind of you feel like you can
prepare for it, but it just you
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know, yeah, you can't prepare
for it, even if like when we
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lost Matt's mom, we she was
in hospice, so we knew she was
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going, and they say you can
compare, like prepare for it, but
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you can't. It's like for me, I feel like it was stepping into
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an older universe. You know,
there's that there was this this one way
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your mom was there, and then
there's the one way she's not, and
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it's like right, you know,
it's it's it's it's like, yeah,
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life changing changes how you see things. It changes your everyday life, and
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like you notice, like Okay,
I'm going to pick up the phone and
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I'm gonna oh yeah, yeah,
I mean that's that's just stopped now and
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we're nearly at the three year mark, and I got to say that now
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you said that, I'm realizing that's
not happening, but that's been very recent
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that that I was still kind of
yeah, but yeah. Yeah. Anyway,
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so you know, I went to
work on this movie and I kind
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of didn't speak to anyone for like
a month or something. I was just
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kind of like had my head buried
in books and there was a lot of
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people on there. And then eventually
at some point it sort of came around
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and started socializing. And I told
someone this story that I just told you,
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and they said, well, obviously
that's like a spirit guidol, you
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know. And I was like,
okay, you know, I'm like yeah,
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but I don't know. I mean, like I wasn't sure about opening
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that door, you know, like
what I kind of it was an odd
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one because he didn't like anyone I
recognize. He didn't like my dad,
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he didn't like an uncle anything like
that. So it was just this thing
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that had happened. But it wasn't
really company, but it definitely happened,
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you know, and it was just
such an odd thing. And and anyway,
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so this person suggested that I start
asking for science so just quickly,
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I'll just tell you about kind of
the first thing that really happened. So
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with me and my partner. We'd
moved into a new apartment around the same
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time that I was working on that
movie, and I've got a bunch of
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Blu rays, right, you know, the kind of useless now or whatever.
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But anyway, so yeah, I
was thinking about it, might get
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back into it. But anyway,
I've got all these Marvel movies and I
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was putting them away because I've been
on this film the whole time, and
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pretty much my partner she just moved
us in on her own. I've got
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to give her a credit, you
know. I didn't do anything for the
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least I can do is put these
things away. So I got this box
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of Blu rays and I noticed and
sorry, I always forget to mention this,
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but I'll like, okay, let's
do this. Ask for a sign
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thing. I was like, all
right, mam, if you're around,
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give me a sign, you know. So anyway, I went about putting
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away these Blu rays and I noticed
that the one that was missing was was
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Doctor Strange, and I thought that
film, how weird. Yeah, I'm
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like, I'm working on this film
every day. This is my day off,
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you know. And I got all
the rest of them and I was
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just like, well, that's so
annoying, you know. They're all in
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one box in the same place.
And I was like, all right,
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well whatever, and I put them
away, and a bit an hour or
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something later, I came across like
a stack of books, like the other
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side of the apartment, and this
blu ray was sitting on top of them,
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and I was like, well,
you know that, what the hell
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is that doing there? That's kind
of odd. And then all of a
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sudden it kind of triggered that,
oh yeah, I just asked for a
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sign. And the book underneath the
blu ray was poking out and the author's
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name said Maureen, which was my
mom's name, and then the book underneath
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that part of the title poked out, saying living, and that's all I
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could see. So I've got doctor
Strange, Mauring and living about an hour
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after I asked for a sign.
So I was like, again, I
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don't I don't know. The skeptic
in me overrides everything all the time,
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but I'm like, that's kind of
a sign, right, I don't know,
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you know, but yeah, you
know, so that was kind of
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the first thing. And I did
a lot of started reading some books on
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mediumship. And again i'll sort of
go on backtrack with the other things that
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had happened in the past. But
I'd read a book by a medium,
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an author called Claire Broad. I
didn't know where she was from. She
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could have been from that sorry,
I listened to an audiobook, so she
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could have been from the stage.
She could have been from Australia or the
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UK or whatever. And anyway,
the book started in a cemetery in London
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where she had her first experience as
a child, like her grandma came through
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and gave her a message when she
was like four or something like that.
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And the cemetery was across the street
from where I lived, Right, this
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random book out of nowhere, right, and I'm like, what are the
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chances of this again? You know? And yeah, I mean she told
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this story about how she was in
Richmond. It's a place called Richmond Cemetery.
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And I could literally look out my
window and see the cemetery, you
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know, in this place that we've
moved into and and and I was like,
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well, that's kind of odd.
And I listened to the whole book,
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and it helped. It was company. It was on about you know,
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talking about that we go on and
obviously what you would expected to talk
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about from a medium. And pretty
soon after that I saw that she was
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having a course at a place called
the College of Psychic Studies in London,
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which is essentially like the X Men
School at something crisis like this. I
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was like that the college or what
psychic studies? All right? So I
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went along to her class and we
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did tell a few stories that I'll
tell you guys about, and she was
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the first person to be like,
oh, well, no, all,
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yeah, that makes perfect sense.
That means that, and this means this,
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you know, things that had happened
years before my mom passed, and
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and I was like, well maybe
it's you know, this is something to
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this. We hit it off,
became like friends very quick. And then
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the next step was that I stumbled
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guys have have them here and there. Yeah, I think we have some
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here in the States. They're like
ten a penny here, Like you can't
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walk around London without running into one
somewhere. And I didn't know that these
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things were a thing either, you
know, so specialist chas that essentially they've
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got a medium. They're pretty much
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a medium typically on a Sunday night
that will just give a demonstration of medium
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ship. And I was like,
well, I'm going to go along to
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this. You know, this was
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my month passed and I showed up
this one night. And again, I
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don't know what it is like the
skepticism, like, come, even though
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I believe in these things, you
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I don't know. I do the
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yeah, but then I tell people
so everything would be a ghost or everything
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would be this or that. Well
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honest. Yeah, I mean yeah, absolutely. And that's the thing about
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the thing is when I tell people
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you know, exactly the same thing.
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weirdly paranoid about it. I put
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I don't know who I thought,
I knew how I was going there no
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one knew I was going there,
you know, just showed up and she
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just worked away around the small congregation
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just getting like affirmation after affirmation.
People were just like yeah, yeah,
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yeah, and I was like,
this is kind of nuts this by the
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time she got to me, and
she didn't go to everybody, but she
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came to me and immediately she said, oh, you're you're a medium,
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you know, And I was like, no, but I'm kind you know,
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I'm looking into it, you know. And and first off, she
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started telling me about a guy that
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a long time, but just to
sort of cut the story short, as
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soon as I realized something clicks and
I was like, oh, she's talking
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about this guy from when I was
like twenty years old, you know,
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and everything she said just matched completely. And just before she finished, she
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said, oh, I have a
lady here that's recently passed, you know.
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for me. So this medium she
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had a very strong London accent,
like a Cockney accent, you know,
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and all of a sudden her accent
changed and it was my mum's accent.
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between them. And she didn't say
much. She just kind of described the
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conditions around her passing, and she
talked about actually being lifted up by angels
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and all this kind of nice stuff. But it was the accent changing.
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I was just my you know,
heart was raising a lump in my throat.
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And that was really the game changer
for me. That kind of I
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was like, well, this woman, I've never seen her before in my
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life, you know, and there
was it was my mum's voice that came
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through essentially, So that was it. You know that that kind of really
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was a catalyst for the book essentially, and I started writing it about all
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of those experiences learning about mediumship,
which I've been doing for the last few
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years now. I guess I'm where
are we, yeah, about to hit
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my fourth year about actively kind of
like being on it. And then yeah,
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like I say, it kind of
opened up all these other memories that
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that I was like, Okay,
well actually maybe that was a thing,
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and that definitely was a thing,
and you know, all these kind of
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all these things that we sort of
you know, you get older or what
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have you or you get cynical somewhere
along the way and you kind of dismiss
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these things, like, yeah,
like so many of them will be sort
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of fleeting, you know. I
mean you guys know, you know,
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there'll be a flash in the corner
of the eye or you know, or
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even you know, faced with you
know, experiences like I had around my
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mom passing, I still would question
it and it still wouldn't make sense in
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the way that everything else makes sense, you know. So when I kind
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of went back and looked at other
things that had happened over the years with
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a sort of different lens, it
seemed like this has been my I hate
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to sound grandiose and say calling,
but I feel like that that was it
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all along, you know, everything
kind of clicked into place through that.
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Yeah, yeah, I'll stop talking. Sorry, that's okay. I have
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a question to follow up with that. So, now that you feel like
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this is your calling, are you
actively pursuing like media, how do you
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say mediation or mediumship? Mediumship?
Sorry? And if you are, are
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you gonna like speak at one of
those churches that you have in town or
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how do you go about being a
medium in England? Yeah? I'm kind
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of sort of feeling my way around
it. So this happened. I mean
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I didn't I went along. I
would go to this church, the same
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place where I got the first message, and it probably went like a handful
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of times over the course of a
year. I wasn't kind of running there
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every someday or anything. I probably
went five or six times, and every
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time it would be the same thing. Some of the medium would be like,
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oh, you're a medium, you
know, and some of them were
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being so specific about people in my
life, like my my my dad came
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through at one point, I mean
two absolutely no sort of error. You
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know, she described him perfectly.
I don't know if he's alive or dead.
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I haven't seen him in twenty years. I presume apparently he is dead.
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But excuse me, but it was, you know, I was like,
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Okay, well, yeah, that's
him, you know. And everything
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she said about the way he treated
me and my mum and stuff like that,
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you know, nailed it so so
like and I'm not saying that absolutely
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everyone. Every medium that I've experienced
have been like amazing. There's been a
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few that have been like, well, you know, I've got this older
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person here and there might be a
grandma, you know what I mean something,
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But yeah, it did sort of, you know, really piqued my
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interests. And I met a couple
along the way, and one invited me
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to a development circle. So you
basically just show up there and sit with
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a few pep. We're not allowed
to tell each other anything about our actual
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lives, you know, so essentially
strangers, and then we'll we'll practice on
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each other, you know, one
will be the sitter and we'll kind of
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open up and then try and give
them some messages and they'll say if if
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it makes sense or not. Yeah, pretty much straight off the bat,
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I've had like a I've always said
one hundred percent of success rate. The
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other day I didn't, so that
that kind of squashed that. But I
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was doing kind of really well with
it. There's always going to be a
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time where it just doesn't work out, because I've been to several mediums.
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So here in the States, they
do like almost like a theater show,
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but it's a medium, and then
you can pay to go to the medium
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and they kind of are very broad
though, and then they'll like go over
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there. They're kind of like the
ones on TV, and sometimes they're really
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good, and sometimes they just nothing's
hitting. Sometimes yeah, thats to just
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get criss cross too. Oh yeah, it's full of people. Spirits are
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here and then they're gone, and
then they're here, and then they're gone
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and then right, and it's like
I can with this person. Actually,
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that feels like it's full of people
and it's like everybody's pushing. It's like
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a riot. Almost everybody's pushing their
way to try and get to the front,
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you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah,
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that's that's what I've heard definitely from
a lot of mediums that have been,
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you know, working for twenty years. They'll say that it is like that,
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and they'll just have to kind of
try and form an orderly queue,
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you know, to have people come
through each time. Yeah, you know,
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again, I've definitely experienced something that
I've been better than others. It's
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interesting though, because because here we
have a very traditional sort of history with
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the whole spiritualism thing. I mean, it's a religion now, right,
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I mean it's not I think they
I don't know. I can't really speak
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for them, but I don't consider
myself a spiritualist, although I have trained
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with them and studied with them and
done workshops and courses and all the rest
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of it. But I feel that
there's a there's a very traditionalist way of
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doing things, and I feel like
a little bit of a maverick coming in
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writing this book saying Hey, I'm
learning to be a medium. This is
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what worked for me, and this
could be what works for you, which
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is essentially what the book does.
Whereas you know, some of the people
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that have been taught by have been
working for twenty years. They never did
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a reading for the first six or
seven years, you know what I mean.
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So there's a kind of I don't
want to sort of upset anyone along
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the way, right, but at
the same time, you could be revolutionizing
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the industry and teaching in a different
way, and yeah, grasp that concept,
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you know, maybe easier and you
know, going to this, I
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don't want to take anything away from
them, but maybe you know what you're
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doing is good. Well yeah,
yeah, I haven't had any negativity around
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it from experienced medium so far,
but yeah, I do want to be
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respectful of it. And you know, it's got you know, I'm kind
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of again, I'll go into the
other stuff, but I feel like I'm
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really at the start of this journey
without actively pursuing this, you know.
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So, so you can put ten
mediums in a room in a location let's
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just say that severely haunted, right
and you know there's X, Y and
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Z ghosts there and that. You
know, every medium could pick up on
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a different spirit or they might not
pick up on anything. It's like a
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relationship between you and the spirit essentially. Yeah, I can walk through places
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and I pick up on little things
here there. You know, there's a
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bunch of litt kids are around here
here right now in attached we have what
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we call haunted dolls and raggedy handbacks. He buys attached dolls, but Andy
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back there has a little boy spirit
attached to them. But anyways, yeah,
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I mean ten people can go into
ten, you know, the same
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location completely cold, and you know, get completely different experiences. And yeah,
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all them can be mediums or psychics
or sensitive or whatever. Yeah,
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so it's just it's everybody has a
different way of going about, you know,
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doing the research and stuff like that. So yeah, yeah, I
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feel I mean again just sort of
you know the last few years, like
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I can definitely see a correlation between
sort of and going to we were talking
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about meditation before we started the when
I when I sit in meditation, and
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I'll and i'll you know, actively
try and sort of like raise I hate
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to use the cliches, but raise
my vibration and and I can see a
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correlation between it, you know,
things run a lot smoother. And then
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this this last year, when I've
got caught up in the you know,
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the publicity for the book and all
that kind of stuff, and it's the
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mediumship side has actually taken a back
seat, you know, which kind of
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was the point of. It's kind
of like, you know, ironically taking
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it away when I when I wrote
this book for that you know, yeah,
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yeah, well yeah, that's it. And I can see it kind
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of it suffers, you know,
when I do. The more I've been
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open to it, then the more
frequently things come. And I suppose that's
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also where skeptics step in and say, well, you're looking for it,
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you know, But I think it
does work like that, you know.
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I think I think you have to
well, you know, you have to
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be open to it and expect it
for it for it for it to work,
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right, And there's always going to
be a skeptic wherever you go.
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There's never gonna not be that one
person. All that goes into fear and
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essentially goes into people not wanting to
experience that thing. They don't want it
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to be real. So no matter
what you say, no matter what,
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they could walk into a full body
operation disagree in front of them, and
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no matter what, it's not going
to be an apparition, it's going to
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be something else. Yeah, there's
nothing you can do anyway. We're running
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out of time, but you guys
go over and check out his book.
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Yes, we're gonna have linked down
below in the description. Also his Facebook
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I'm sorry, is Instagram Joannel.
Yeah, Instagram slowly startled with you Tube,
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but yeah, it's pretty much Phil
Webster filled with two else. I'd
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love to have you back on here
soon. Yes, you're so interesting.
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It's always good to talk too.
Pleasure, completely different perspective. Yes,
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so thank you, Thank you very
much. We appreciate you. Yeah,
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it's been a pleasure. Well,
we'll definitely catch you on the next one.
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Yeah, absolutely, thank you.
I'd love to come back
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Well, hello, my paranormal peeps, and welcome back to another Deepods panormal
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podcast. My name is Matt Harvey. I am the founder and the investigator
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with Deepoits Paranormal. My wife and
I, along with others, investigate everything
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paranormal in nature. Every week,
we will discuss everything from creepy haunted locations,
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to ghosts, to bigfoot, UFOs, dog man and other cryptic creatures
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and explore all things paranormal and nature. Well, hello, my paranoral peeps,
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and welcome back to another Depends paranormal
podcast. We are on today with
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Phil Webster. He is a psychic. He is also an actor, an
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author, and a teacher, so
he's quite the guy. He's been researching
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the paranormal and kind of researching mediumship
for a long time, and we'll well
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actually start there with him and then
maybe he can kind of talk about those
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four things. Yeah, Hi,
Yeah, thank you thanks for having me
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on it. It's a pleasure to
be here and meet you both. Yeah,
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we're really excited that with us.
Yeah, it's it's kind of it's
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what is it. It's like eleven
eleven at night over here or something like
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that. But yeah, you know, I'm just about still with it.
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But yeah, Yeah, the book
is called Letting Glow. It's been out
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since last spring. It's doing okay. First book that I've wrote, and
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I think like possibly the you know
that the sort of catalyst for it was
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an experience that I had around my
mum passing in twenty twenty one. So
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that was really something odd happened the
night before she died, and that really
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spurred me to to just sort of
go into this deep rabbit hole. You
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know. I'd always kind of like
had an eye on on sort of paranormal
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stuff. I hadn't really touched it
for many years, but then this this
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event that happened around my mum passing
kind of triggered like a bunch of memories
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and I was thinking, okay,
like this this kind of obviously that was
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a big thing in itself, losing
a parent, but what happened around it
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kind of made me look back on
other things that had happened over my life,
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and it was seen that every few
years something would be kind of tap
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me on the shoulder, like for
one of a better expression. So is
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the experience that you're talking about with
your mother? Is that in the book?
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Yeah, I mean, it's how
the book starts, so I mean
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I'm not really you know, ruining
too much in the first two pages.
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And it's an odd one, you
know, because again, yeah, I
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was really close with my mum.
She was she lived on a place called
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the Isle of Wight, which is
a small island at the south of England.
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I just kind of set this story
up just to sort of give sort
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of more relevance to what happened.
So it was the end of end of
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the whole COVID thing. It was
the start of twenty twenty one, so
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we've just been through Christmas, various
lockdowns, all that stuff, and I
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kept away thinking that I was doing
the right thing, you know. I
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was like listening to what the government
was saying and all that stuff. And
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I was also waiting for a job
on a big movie. It was like
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one of these big Marvel movies.
It was I see that You've got a
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Grogo behind you. It wasn't a
Star Wars movie, but it was Doctor
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Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.
Yes we've seen that. Yeah, So
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I was waiting to work on that
and I had like a good four month
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stretch on it, just like I
was just like one of the warriors in
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the whole camousage things. Nothing,
you know, it was good, you
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know, and I hadn't had any
work for a while, and it was
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a good stretch of work. And
if you caught COVID, they would have
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just kicked you off straight away.
So I was kind of mindful of that.
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And then I was also trying to
do the right thing by my mum
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anyway. So point being, I
hadn't seen her for a couple of months,
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and we've just gone through Christmas and
I just spent it with my partner.
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My mum was on her own on
the Isle of Wight, so that's
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a very rural place. She lived
alone. She was seventy six years old.
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She had various age related health problems, like you know, heart condition
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and high blood pressure. But I
thought, you know, she's going to
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be around for a while. She
would always bounce back from whatever, you
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know, kind of thing happened,
and anyway, so we would face time
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every day, and on this night, I think we'd spoke maybe two or
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three times that day already, and
she, you know, I kind of
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knew a routine, like I said, like I knew all the neighbors we
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didn't have any other family there.
It's a really quiet place and we were
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in another lockdown and I called her
on this evening and she kind of just
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to sort of explain it, like
sort of practically. She had her phone
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charging on the floor and as she
kind of leaned in to and she pressed
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the button to sort of answer the
call, she was leaning in one side
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and there was a man leaning in
from the other side. And I saw
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him long enough that I could like
describe him. He had like thinning gray
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hair, glasses, looked like he
was maybe mid sixties something like that.
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you know. I was like, well,
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who the hell's that? You know, like, and as she picked
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the phone up, he kind of
went out of shot and she went and
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sat down, and I said,
I was like, well, who's that?
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And she said who's what? And
I was like, okay, because
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your mom lives alone. Yeah,
she lives alone. And I know all
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the neighbors. You know, she'd
been alone for pretty much a year through
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the whole COVID thing. I knew
her day to day routine. She was
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staying home, she was I mean, she she was suffering with depression and
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you know, that the whole lockdown
thing really hard times smart times. Yeah,
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you know, it was. It
was, you know, in hindsight,
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I wish would have done things differently. But anyway, so you know,
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I kind of knew her everybody that
lived near by all and plus I
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must mention it was like ten thirty
at nights something like that, so you
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know, there was no one there. And you know, I wasn't there
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obviously, so I can't one hundred
percent say there was absolutely nobody there,
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but I believe that there was no
one there. And I said, you
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know, who was that? And
she was like who is what? And
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I said, well, who was
the guy? You know? And she
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was like, no, idea what
you're talking about, you know, And
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she just started telling me about her
day and I said, mom, I
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said, sorry to interrupt. I
said, but who's the guy? And
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she was like, no one,
you know, you know, And she
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would always do this thing like if
there was somebody with her, and when
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she was on the phone, she
would kind of put on these airs and
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graces and speak a lot more politely, and it was like impossible to get
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a conversation out of it, you
know, And she wasn't doing any of
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that she was just being herself and
chatting away, and I thought, well,
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I don't know. Well, I
guess I was mistaken, you know,
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and although I know it's seen the
guy. And anyway, we spoke
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for like another thirty forty five minutes. She didn't acknowledge anyone at all,
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nobody sacred nights or nothing like.
That was a very small house. And
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then when I finished the call my
fiance she said, what was all that
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about? And I said, well, I saw someone, but she said
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there was no one there. Anyway, We went to bed the next morning,
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got the phone call from a neighbor
they couldn't get into the house,
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and my mama passed away from the
same night. Yeah, through the night
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or in the morning, I'm not
quite sure. And I never really sort
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of dug into it. I kind
of didn't want to know, you know,
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the full details, but I was
like, okay, well, you
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know, going through the shock of
all that, so it was just my
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mom hasn't already got any other family
or anything. This thing kind of sat
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at the back of my mind and
I was like, well, well,
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what was that, you know,
what what are we talking here? You
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know? And I kind of it
wasn't my main concern because I was grieving
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and you know, just crying non
stop, and it was it was horrible.
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You know, for anyone that's been
through that, you know, you
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know how it is. And one
thing I always say is kind of like,
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you know, when you lose a
parent, you really lose like that
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one witness to your life, right, you know that person, and you
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kind of you feel like you can
prepare for it, but it just you
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know, yeah, you can't prepare
for it, even if like when we
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lost Matt's mom, we she was
in hospice, so we knew she was
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going, and they say you can
compare, like prepare for it, but
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you can't. It's like for me, I feel like it was stepping into
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an older universe. You know,
there's that there was this this one way
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your mom was there, and then
there's the one way she's not, and
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it's like right, you know,
it's it's it's it's like, yeah,
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life changing changes how you see things. It changes your everyday life, and
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like you notice, like Okay,
I'm going to pick up the phone and
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I'm gonna oh yeah, yeah,
I mean that's that's just stopped now and
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we're nearly at the three year mark, and I got to say that now
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you said that, I'm realizing that's
not happening, but that's been very recent
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that that I was still kind of
yeah, but yeah. Yeah. Anyway,
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so you know, I went to
work on this movie and I kind
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of didn't speak to anyone for like
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kind of like had my head buried
in books and there was a lot of
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people on there. And then eventually
at some point it sort of came around
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and started socializing. And I told
someone this story that I just told you,
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and they said, well, obviously
that's like a spirit guidol, you
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know. And I was like,
okay, you know, I'm like yeah,
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but I don't know. I mean, like I wasn't sure about opening
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that door, you know, like
what I kind of it was an odd
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one because he didn't like anyone I
recognize. He didn't like my dad,
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he didn't like an uncle anything like
that. So it was just this thing
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that had happened. But it wasn't
really company, but it definitely happened,
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you know, and it was just
such an odd thing. And and anyway,
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so this person suggested that I start
asking for science so just quickly,
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I'll just tell you about kind of
the first thing that really happened. So
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with me and my partner. We'd
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time that I was working on that
movie, and I've got a bunch of
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Blu rays, right, you know, the kind of useless now or whatever.
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But anyway, so yeah, I
was thinking about it, might get
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back into it. But anyway,
I've got all these Marvel movies and I
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was putting them away because I've been
on this film the whole time, and
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pretty much my partner she just moved
us in on her own. I've got
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to give her a credit, you
know. I didn't do anything for the
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least I can do is put these
things away. So I got this box
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of Blu rays and I noticed and
sorry, I always forget to mention this,
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but I'll like, okay, let's
do this. Ask for a sign
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thing. I was like, all
right, mam, if you're around,
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give me a sign, you know. So anyway, I went about putting
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away these Blu rays and I noticed
that the one that was missing was was
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Doctor Strange, and I thought that
film, how weird. Yeah, I'm
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like, I'm working on this film
every day. This is my day off,
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you know. And I got all
the rest of them and I was
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just like, well, that's so
annoying, you know. They're all in
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one box in the same place.
And I was like, all right,
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well whatever, and I put them
away, and a bit an hour or
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something later, I came across like
a stack of books, like the other
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side of the apartment, and this
blu ray was sitting on top of them,
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and I was like, well,
you know that, what the hell
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is that doing there? That's kind
of odd. And then all of a
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sudden it kind of triggered that,
oh yeah, I just asked for a
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sign. And the book underneath the
blu ray was poking out and the author's
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name said Maureen, which was my
mom's name, and then the book underneath
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that part of the title poked out, saying living, and that's all I
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could see. So I've got doctor
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after I asked for a sign.
So I was like, again, I
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don't I don't know. The skeptic
in me overrides everything all the time,
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but I'm like, that's kind of
a sign, right, I don't know,
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you know, but yeah, you
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the first thing. And I did
a lot of started reading some books on
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mediumship. And again i'll sort of
go on backtrack with the other things that
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had happened in the past. But
I'd read a book by a medium,
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an author called Claire Broad. I
didn't know where she was from. She
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could have been from that sorry,
I listened to an audiobook, so she
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could have been from the stage.
She could have been from Australia or the
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UK or whatever. And anyway,
the book started in a cemetery in London
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where she had her first experience as
a child, like her grandma came through
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and gave her a message when she
was like four or something like that.
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And the cemetery was across the street
from where I lived, Right, this
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random book out of nowhere, right, and I'm like, what are the
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chances of this again? You know? And yeah, I mean she told
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this story about how she was in
Richmond. It's a place called Richmond Cemetery.
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And I could literally look out my
window and see the cemetery, you
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know, in this place that we've
moved into and and and I was like,
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well, that's kind of odd.
And I listened to the whole book,
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and it helped. It was company. It was on about you know,
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talking about that we go on and
obviously what you would expected to talk
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about from a medium. And pretty
soon after that I saw that she was
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having a course at a place called
the College of Psychic Studies in London,
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which is essentially like the X Men
School at something crisis like this. I
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was like that the college or what
psychic studies? All right? So I
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went along to her class and we
kind of hit it off, and I
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did tell a few stories that I'll
tell you guys about, and she was
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the first person to be like,
oh, well, no, all,
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yeah, that makes perfect sense.
That means that, and this means this,
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you know, things that had happened
years before my mom passed, and
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and I was like, well maybe
it's you know, this is something to
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this. We hit it off,
became like friends very quick. And then
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the next step was that I stumbled
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guys have have them here and there. Yeah, I think we have some
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here in the States. They're like
ten a penny here, Like you can't
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walk around London without running into one
somewhere. And I didn't know that these
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things were a thing either, you
know, so specialist chas that essentially they've
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got a medium. They're pretty much
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a medium typically on a Sunday night
that will just give a demonstration of medium
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ship. And I was like,
well, I'm going to go along to
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this. You know, this was
probably two months, three months out of
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my month passed and I showed up
this one night. And again, I
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don't know what it is like the
skepticism, like, come, even though
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I believe in these things, you
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I don't know. I do the
same thing I do yeah, yeah,
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yeah, but then I tell people
so everything would be a ghost or everything
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would be this or that. Well
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honest. Yeah, I mean yeah, absolutely. And that's the thing about
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the thing is when I tell people
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like, then I get offended,
you know, exactly the same thing.
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But anyway, I went along to
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weirdly paranoid about it. I put
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I don't know who I thought,
I knew how I was going there no
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one knew I was going there,
you know, just showed up and she
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just worked away around the small congregation
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just getting like affirmation after affirmation.
People were just like yeah, yeah,
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yeah, and I was like,
this is kind of nuts this by the
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time she got to me, and
she didn't go to everybody, but she
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came to me and immediately she said, oh, you're you're a medium,
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you know, And I was like, no, but I'm kind you know,
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I'm looking into it, you know. And and first off, she
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started telling me about a guy that
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a long time, but just to
sort of cut the story short, as
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soon as I realized something clicks and
I was like, oh, she's talking
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about this guy from when I was
like twenty years old, you know,
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and everything she said just matched completely. And just before she finished, she
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said, oh, I have a
lady here that's recently passed, you know.
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for me. So this medium she
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had a very strong London accent,
like a Cockney accent, you know,
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and all of a sudden her accent
changed and it was my mum's accent.
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between them. And she didn't say
much. She just kind of described the
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conditions around her passing, and she
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and all this kind of nice stuff. But it was the accent changing.
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I was just my you know,
heart was raising a lump in my throat.
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And that was really the game changer
for me. That kind of I
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was like, well, this woman, I've never seen her before in my
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life, you know, and there
was it was my mum's voice that came
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through essentially, So that was it. You know that that kind of really
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was a catalyst for the book essentially, and I started writing it about all
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of those experiences learning about mediumship,
which I've been doing for the last few
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years now. I guess I'm where
are we, yeah, about to hit
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my fourth year about actively kind of
like being on it. And then yeah,
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like I say, it kind of
opened up all these other memories that
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that I was like, Okay,
well actually maybe that was a thing,
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and that definitely was a thing,
and you know, all these kind of
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all these things that we sort of
you know, you get older or what
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have you or you get cynical somewhere
along the way and you kind of dismiss
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these things, like, yeah,
like so many of them will be sort
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of fleeting, you know. I
mean you guys know, you know,
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there'll be a flash in the corner
of the eye or you know, or
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even you know, faced with you
know, experiences like I had around my
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mom passing, I still would question
it and it still wouldn't make sense in
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the way that everything else makes sense, you know. So when I kind
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of went back and looked at other
things that had happened over the years with
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a sort of different lens, it
seemed like this has been my I hate
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to sound grandiose and say calling,
but I feel like that that was it
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all along, you know, everything
kind of clicked into place through that.
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Yeah, yeah, I'll stop talking. Sorry, that's okay. I have
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a question to follow up with that. So, now that you feel like
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this is your calling, are you
actively pursuing like media, how do you
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say mediation or mediumship? Mediumship?
Sorry? And if you are, are
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you gonna like speak at one of
those churches that you have in town or
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how do you go about being a
medium in England? Yeah? I'm kind
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of sort of feeling my way around
it. So this happened. I mean
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I didn't I went along. I
would go to this church, the same
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place where I got the first message, and it probably went like a handful
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of times over the course of a
year. I wasn't kind of running there
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every someday or anything. I probably
went five or six times, and every
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time it would be the same thing. Some of the medium would be like,
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oh, you're a medium, you
know, and some of them were
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being so specific about people in my
life, like my my my dad came
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through at one point, I mean
two absolutely no sort of error. You
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know, she described him perfectly.
I don't know if he's alive or dead.
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I haven't seen him in twenty years. I presume apparently he is dead.
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But excuse me, but it was, you know, I was like,
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Okay, well, yeah, that's
him, you know. And everything
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she said about the way he treated
me and my mum and stuff like that,
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you know, nailed it so so
like and I'm not saying that absolutely
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everyone. Every medium that I've experienced
have been like amazing. There's been a
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few that have been like, well, you know, I've got this older
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person here and there might be a
grandma, you know what I mean something,
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But yeah, it did sort of, you know, really piqued my
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interests. And I met a couple
along the way, and one invited me
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to a development circle. So you
basically just show up there and sit with
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a few pep. We're not allowed
to tell each other anything about our actual
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lives, you know, so essentially
strangers, and then we'll we'll practice on
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each other, you know, one
will be the sitter and we'll kind of
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open up and then try and give
them some messages and they'll say if if
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it makes sense or not. Yeah, pretty much straight off the bat,
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I've had like a I've always said
one hundred percent of success rate. The
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other day I didn't, so that
that kind of squashed that. But I
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was doing kind of really well with
it. There's always going to be a
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time where it just doesn't work out, because I've been to several mediums.
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So here in the States, they
do like almost like a theater show,
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but it's a medium, and then
you can pay to go to the medium
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and they kind of are very broad
though, and then they'll like go over
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there. They're kind of like the
ones on TV, and sometimes they're really
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good, and sometimes they just nothing's
hitting. Sometimes yeah, thats to just
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get criss cross too. Oh yeah, it's full of people. Spirits are
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here and then they're gone, and
then they're here, and then they're gone
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and then right, and it's like
I can with this person. Actually,
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that feels like it's full of people
and it's like everybody's pushing. It's like
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a riot. Almost everybody's pushing their
way to try and get to the front,
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you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah,
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that's that's what I've heard definitely from
a lot of mediums that have been,
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you know, working for twenty years. They'll say that it is like that,
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and they'll just have to kind of
try and form an orderly queue,
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you know, to have people come
through each time. Yeah, you know,
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again, I've definitely experienced something that
I've been better than others. It's
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interesting though, because because here we
have a very traditional sort of history with
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the whole spiritualism thing. I mean, it's a religion now, right,
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I mean it's not I think they
I don't know. I can't really speak
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for them, but I don't consider
myself a spiritualist, although I have trained
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with them and studied with them and
done workshops and courses and all the rest
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of it. But I feel that
there's a there's a very traditionalist way of
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doing things, and I feel like
a little bit of a maverick coming in
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writing this book saying Hey, I'm
learning to be a medium. This is
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what worked for me, and this
could be what works for you, which
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is essentially what the book does.
Whereas you know, some of the people
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that have been taught by have been
working for twenty years. They never did
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a reading for the first six or
seven years, you know what I mean.
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So there's a kind of I don't
want to sort of upset anyone along
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the way, right, but at
the same time, you could be revolutionizing
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the industry and teaching in a different
way, and yeah, grasp that concept,
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you know, maybe easier and you
know, going to this, I
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don't want to take anything away from
them, but maybe you know what you're
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doing is good. Well yeah,
yeah, I haven't had any negativity around
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it from experienced medium so far,
but yeah, I do want to be
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respectful of it. And you know, it's got you know, I'm kind
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of again, I'll go into the
other stuff, but I feel like I'm
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really at the start of this journey
without actively pursuing this, you know.
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So, so you can put ten
mediums in a room in a location let's
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just say that severely haunted, right
and you know there's X, Y and
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Z ghosts there and that. You
know, every medium could pick up on
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a different spirit or they might not
pick up on anything. It's like a
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relationship between you and the spirit essentially. Yeah, I can walk through places
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and I pick up on little things
here there. You know, there's a
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bunch of litt kids are around here
here right now in attached we have what
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we call haunted dolls and raggedy handbacks. He buys attached dolls, but Andy
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back there has a little boy spirit
attached to them. But anyways, yeah,
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I mean ten people can go into
ten, you know, the same
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location completely cold, and you know, get completely different experiences. And yeah,
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all them can be mediums or psychics
or sensitive or whatever. Yeah,
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so it's just it's everybody has a
different way of going about, you know,
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doing the research and stuff like that. So yeah, yeah, I
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feel I mean again just sort of
you know the last few years, like
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I can definitely see a correlation between
sort of and going to we were talking
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about meditation before we started the when
I when I sit in meditation, and
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I'll and i'll you know, actively
try and sort of like raise I hate
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to use the cliches, but raise
my vibration and and I can see a
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correlation between it, you know,
things run a lot smoother. And then
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this this last year, when I've
got caught up in the you know,
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the publicity for the book and all
that kind of stuff, and it's the
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mediumship side has actually taken a back
seat, you know, which kind of
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was the point of. It's kind
of like, you know, ironically taking
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it away when I when I wrote
this book for that you know, yeah,
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yeah, well yeah, that's it. And I can see it kind
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of it suffers, you know,
when I do. The more I've been
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open to it, then the more
frequently things come. And I suppose that's
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also where skeptics step in and say, well, you're looking for it,
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you know, But I think it
does work like that, you know.
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I think I think you have to
well, you know, you have to
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be open to it and expect it
for it for it for it to work,
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right, And there's always going to
be a skeptic wherever you go.
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There's never gonna not be that one
person. All that goes into fear and
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essentially goes into people not wanting to
experience that thing. They don't want it
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to be real. So no matter
what you say, no matter what,
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they could walk into a full body
operation disagree in front of them, and
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no matter what, it's not going
to be an apparition, it's going to
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be something else. Yeah, there's
nothing you can do anyway. We're running
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out of time, but you guys
go over and check out his book.
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Yes, we're gonna have linked down
below in the description. Also his Facebook
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I'm sorry, is Instagram Joannel.
Yeah, Instagram slowly startled with you Tube,
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but yeah, it's pretty much Phil
Webster filled with two else. I'd
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love to have you back on here
soon. Yes, you're so interesting.
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It's always good to talk too.
Pleasure, completely different perspective. Yes,
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so thank you, Thank you very
much. We appreciate you. Yeah,
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it's been a pleasure. Well,
we'll definitely catch you on the next one.
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Yeah, absolutely, thank you.
I'd love to come back
