Talking about etymology, creativity & self-talk.

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Hello and welcome to Casually Profound. I'm Lauren McLean, your host and here to bring

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you conversations with friends about how we apply spiritual concepts into our everyday

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lives. Now today's brand that we brought on was Stepanka Kurlova. She is a dynamite.

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She was fabulous. Shana Lee also joins in this episode as a guest to talk. We came in

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with the intention of talking about creativity, kind of spurred off from one of the previous

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solo episodes that I had done about what the creative spectrum is and how creativity helps

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us embody our whole selves. Topanga took us on the most fabulous detour into entomology

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and the meaning of words and how I we think about words and how our emotional connections

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to words and it was the most fucking fabulous conversation. The whole thing is juiced. The

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whole conversation is juicy from the first minute. It's honestly so good. All of us come

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to the conversation, me, Shana and Topanga come to the conversation speaking English,

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but all of us know different languages outside of that. And so it was just so cool. We talk

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about truth. We talk about how facts are created. We talk about the vibrations behind words.

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We talk about how the like different experiences that different language speakers have in the

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same scenario. It was just so fabulous. And then really at the end, Topanga hits us with

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a fucking whammy about how reality creation plays into this and how when we choose to

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experience the world in a particular way and we choose the thoughts behind how we're experiencing

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the world around us, how that actually informs creation and creativity and like it was just,

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it was just amazing. So thank you so much for joining this conversation today and please

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don't forget to subscribe, like and review this podcast on whatever platform you're listening

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shown to people all over the world. Let's get into it. Let's get into this episode.

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Here is Topanga and Shana and myself talking about creativity and words. But what I was

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saying in that episode was that creativity so often is thought about in the terms of

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like this like flowy visual representation of like kind of a more linguistic and flowy

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and visual way of thinking that it's like this very soft skills way of approaching the

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world and that that's what art is thought of as an artist are thought of as. And then

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part of the realization that I was kind of bringing into being in that episode was that

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that is only one end of the spectrum and the other end of that spectrum is a very linear

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and analytical way of thinking that is very like kind of mind based. And so it's almost

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like a mind heart connection on that spectrum, but that the real important part of creativity

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exists in everything between and around that two points, those two points in that spectrum

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because when you are able to fill up and use and play in that middle space and the field

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around those two points in the spectrum, I keep imagining a magnetic field and it's sexy

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as fuck. Like those two points are like two magnets and like the field around it. And

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so because when you're able to play in that, that's really when you're able to access all

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of those parts of the spectrum in the field is when you are able to embody your whole

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self and really that's the point of creativity is to embody your whole self. I think lots

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of people use creativity as a method of like self expression, which I think is such a narrow

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way of experiencing creativity. It's like one point on that spectrum, but then that

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way of like embodying your whole self and coming into understanding to union with your

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whole self, I think is really the magic behind creativity that lots of people miss. And so

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I'm curious, Stepanka, what your take was on that or what your take away from that was?

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Oh my gosh. I had so many breakthrough moments just by listening to that episode and I was

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like, I feel like I almost like felt like I'm falling in love with you. I'm like, she

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gets me. Like she can word everything I've been feeling all this time. I feel like creativity

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is something I am so passionate about, but I hardly ever come across people who like

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are on the same wavelength, if that makes sense. I really see creativity as simply being

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alive and engaging with everything in your life. Like I love the examples you gave in

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that episode, such as doing your makeup and just channeling your genius by, you know,

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creating, doing your own makeup, doing makeup for other people. And my journey was very

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similar in that, in that way. I remember being called shallow or superficial for being interested

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in different colors, eyeshadows or jewelry. And I remember like being told at school,

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well, you're either really smart and academically, like you study at university or you are interested

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in those kinds of things. And I couldn't really get my head around it. I always felt like

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those things work together. I loved like my, the thing I studied at university was linguistics,

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when I first started the first university, I studied ed with linguistics. I studied German

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language, etymology of words. And I saw that as a creative process. And I just loved playing

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with words. I loved experimenting with what kind of feelings words bring up for us. And

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I felt like that is so connected to my other hobbies, such as arts and crafts and makeup

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and fashion and jewelry and literature and poetry. I felt like it's the same thing. And

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I also always felt that sometimes I just see something or I hear something and it inspires

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me. And I don't know whether you remember this from the episode, but you said something

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so cool. You said that sometimes you had a book, like a book about, I can't remember

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what exact book that was, but you haven't actually read it. You just flipped through

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the pages. And it was almost as if you downloaded the codes from that book. And I've had those

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experiences in my life too. And it's not only the energy of the book, but maybe just the

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colors, the color palette. And I'm just able to just take it from that book right away

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without needing to study it in depth. And I feel that is definitely something that happens

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when we are in flow, when we don't overthink it. And yeah, I hope I'm making sense. I just

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get all fashion and I could speak about this for hours, but I, a short answer, I feel like

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creativity is simply being alive, noticing life around you, interacting with life, interacting

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with other people. And it's really about how you see life.

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So entomology is Shana's favorite thing in the fucking universe and, or one of them.

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And I also love it. I love it exactly the way you described it of like when you, so

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Shana loves like the backstory of words. And I come at it more of like, how has, what sensation

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has a word imprinted on people's bodies? And like, how is the collective truth programmed

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from the like, from the individual imprints that people have stored in their bodies, right?

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Like kind of like, hey, it was an apple, an apple, like, right. Cause we've all like have

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this collective imprint. So the, so then thinking about your spectrum of creativity and how,

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and like entomology then is on the like more analytical side for you is what you're saying.

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Yeah. I, I mean, I'm just obsessed with it. I just love seeing how words got created.

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What was the journey, how it evolved. And in a way it's, it's such a good metaphor for

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how we evolve as well. And I'm into that story. Can you tell that? Cause like you study, you

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learned it. How did words happen? Oh my God. Yes. I am no expert, but personally I studied

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Germanic etymologies. I was looking at how like German or Germanic words evolved and

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what they look like in Austrian German, in German German, and also in the Scandinavian

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languages, for example. But, um, like I had a major breakthrough moment when I was studying

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linguistics and I love because Loren, you already spoke about it. And it really is that

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every word creates a feeling within us. And we might think that this word is neutral.

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It doesn't really mean anything. It's neither good or bad, but the truth is we might have

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an emotional code with it. And that is something I find is super powerful. Something we we've

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got to learn about more. And, um, and I was really worried about, um, studying linguistics

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because it was very difficult. It was quite complex and very often I would go to classes

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already feeling a little nervous, like, will I be able to keep up with all the students

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and my teacher? And one day, um, so I come from the Czech Republic and I studied at Prague

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and this university has the most incredible view of the Prague castle and bridge bridges

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across the river. And I remember just looking out of the window and this teacher started

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talking about this topic. She started talking about how words are connected to sensations

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inside our bodies. And that really caught my attention because up until then it felt

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all a little too boring and not exciting enough. And she gave us this sheet of paper and it

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had a list of words on it. And she asked us to read every single word and write down the

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first three associations we have with this word. And we all did that. And I was really

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into it. I'm like, that's so interesting. There are things such as, um, the color black,

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the color green, yellow, white. Um, you know, there was things such as money, being a student

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and it just really made me think. And I realized, well, I do have associations with every word,

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and though I thought that they are neutral, they don't really mean anything else. And

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then we started saying it out loud and there was a theme like the color white. Most girls

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wrote down a wedding dress, innocent, you know, those kinds of things. But then there

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were also differences. Let's say being a student, I wrote down library books and someone else

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said being broke. Right. So you can tell how different that is. And yes, I'm just going

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to stop here because I'm sure both of you have something else to say, but this was really

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the moment for me when I realized that this is actually a very juicy topic and something

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I want to explore a lot more.

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I know I was taught entomology from an NLP perspective from neuro-linguistic programming.

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And so we were taught it specifically, we were being taught how to listen to the way

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people speak and listening to the language patterns people use, um, and how those language

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patterns communicate what beliefs are holding about themselves. And so we were taught a

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little bit about entomology and kind of thinking about where words come from. And so I'm curious,

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um, with both of you kind of what your perspective is on how, like on, on a surface level, my

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initial impression would be that like I have created my meanings for the words I have experienced

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on my own. And in many ways I, that has happened in a large portion of my vocabulary because

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I grew up reading and like a huge super nerd in a family of people who were like not, my

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parents were not. And so a lot of my like words and word associations came from books

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and that kind of thing. And so, however, that I'm, there must also be a component. It has

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to exist somewhere where the meanings of words or that emotional association that we have

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to different words is inherited. Um, and like, I know Shana, you've talked to in the past

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about like where the meanings of words come from and like the different components when

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you break words down into their pieces, that kind of thing. Um, like the different pieces

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have historical meanings that lead into it. And so I'm curious where the nexus is with

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words of like, where is the blood ancestry and like your actual literal ancestors playing

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in to what the emotional connection is on a word versus where is the like historical

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context of that word has been used in, for example, like, um, in the UK, someone might,

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I've heard people here refer to cigarettes as fags, but yeah, like in North America,

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that is like a hundred percent. No, that word is not okay at all because it referred in

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a different context or refers to a different thing. And so I'm curious where that nexus

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would lie. I thought it was really cool hearing where you guys both, uh, have your foundation

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where you jump off from in terms of like analyzing words and how they play into humanity and

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reality. For me, it's, I start with sound. It's, it is just vibration. It, there's no

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meaning behind it yet. And I think that perspective comes from my yoga teacher training where

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we learned about mantras and we learned about Sanskrit and sound and how to keep it simple.

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Uh, you might be talking about Ganesh and those are like two syllables that come together

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to make a word that represents an unfathomable concept. And that goes, but when you start,

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you have the seed mantra, the seed sound. And for Ganesh, it would be gum. And it, the

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way that I see it as, as if everything that this elephant figure represents. Um, so for

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example, removing obstacles, all of that representation is contained in that one seed sound gum. And

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we rip that apart and add different sounds to it, to add different nuances, to explain

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this giant concept. Um, so I go all the way back to vibration, that there's a vibration

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in these sounds that we put together that we call words that we've attached meaning

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to that then affect us on a personal level. So when, um, Lauren, when you ask ancestry

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wise, like how many generations back, back to when we didn't actually have words and

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we were just making sounds or back to when words had meaning.

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I was thinking one word had meaning. So that's interesting to me. I don't know if y'all

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want to jump off this sound vibration point. No, I like it. Cool. I was, uh, Googling terrific

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yesterday because, um, when I'm snorkeling, there are things that are fucking terrifying

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and then I just keep doing it and then they become less terrifying. And yesterday actually

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was one of those moments. Um, because in my first couple of snorkels, I ended up having

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like 50, 60, 70 blackfish with indigo blue edges, just a tack by view. And I didn't know

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where they came from and I didn't know what they were going to do. And it was terrifying.

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It was so scary. Like I had to, I had, I had almost a panic attack. I couldn't breathe.

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I had to really slow down my breath. Um, and I kind of just watched them from afar and

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then went back in, um, in, uh, out, went back out, out of the water, into the land. And

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that would have been, I don't know, maybe a month or two ago. I don't know what time

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is here. And yesterday I saw that same school of fish, except this time I swam down to go

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be with them. And I was like, Oh, this is a very different experience. And it came from

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terror. It came from terrify, but now it's terrific. How did we, where in evolution did

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the word terrify relate to fear and then change into terrific meaning excitement? And this

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ultimately is the beauty of analyzing words for me because there's God in all of it. And

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I think that the transition between terror and terrific is when you first have God revealed

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to you, it is fucking terrifying, but the more you practice and the more relationship

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you build with God, it becomes more of a terrific experience that was birthed from terror. Um,

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so I don't know. I had fun with that. I don't know where that changed. I wonder if that

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is, um, uh, humanity evolution thing where we became less afraid of the God figure and

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more embracing towards it as a collective. Um, I know.

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I love what you said because it's actually something I looked into myself because English

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is not my first language and when I am learning words and I'm like, how did this happen? How

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did this word become this? And I feel sometimes it's easier for people who are learning the

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language because native speakers, they might not think about it as much because it's like,

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well, it's always been this way, but for me, I'm always like looking up different words

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and I'm like, there's been an evolution here. How did it happen? Like I can see it between

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words. So thank you for sharing that story.

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I love them. Love, love words. I'm learning Spanish and that means I also help teach people

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English and they asked me questions that I wouldn't just normally think about. And like

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it, English is so pliable. I mean, I feel like English is the pinnacle of creativity

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when it comes to language because we can just use what we have in so many different ways

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to create a new idea. Even though it's still the same words, we just kind of switch them

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up a little bit. We maybe push two together to make it sound like one and there kind of

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is no rules except when you have someone who's trying to learn English asking about rules.

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Well, then there are rules kind of, and I can't explain it. I had someone say to me

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a few days ago, awesome, awesome is slang. I'm like, no, it's not. And he goes, yeah,

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it is. And like he thinks he knows. And I was like, okay, well, I'm going to Google

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that. And it's not, I'm like, it came from like the 16th century. He's like, oh, okay.

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And then we didn't talk about it anymore. But I wondered if he is getting a modern day

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definition of awesome and it includes the representation of slang. Whereas when it was

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created, whatever you call it in the 1500s, it actually meant something else, which then

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gets me thinking awful and awesome. Like if you want something that contains aw, wouldn't

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you want it to be full of aw rather than some of aw? So I don't even know how the word makes

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sense. And I guess maybe that's why we stopped talking about it because of what? I don't

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know. And context to ease of what, what's the difference between but and but. And I

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said a T and he goes, well, how do you say it differently? I'm like, you don't say it

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differently. He goes, well, how do you know which one you're talking about? And I said,

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context. And I don't know. I wonder if that's a part of that conversation about words and

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the evolution of them.

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Well, I think it's such a gift in that because the words represent a vibration. Like you

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were saying, yes, like the gum and the Ganesh and all that kind of thing. And it's really

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cool. Um, this is a, no, I fuck. I've already got on the tangent. Um, I was gonna say quick

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tangent. The, there's a book that I read when I was a kid is called Aragon. Um, and the,

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the series is called the inheritance cycle and in it, the way they perform magic is you

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use the Elvish language and when you say the word of something in the Elvish language,

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the Elvish language has actually identified the truest name of whatever the substance

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or item or person is. And if you know the true name, which is done in the Elvish language,

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you can control and manipulate and do whatever you want to that thing. And so for instance,

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when you know the word for fire, you can put fire anywhere. You can whatever that kind

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of thing. Um, and one of the characters accidentally stumbles upon one, a different character's

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true name by accident. Cause he was just kind of like swearing under his breath at the guy

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and said it in Elvish and the guy just like, like came to attention. Like he just like

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knew. And so it's really cool. And you take that concept of like the vibration and the,

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and the truest vibration of the word and not the cause I just got me thinking about like

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multiple languages, how we have like English and German and Russian and like all the different

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languages. Right? And so if you're, if each of those is kind of a bastardization of some

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original vibration, meaning of something, then that power is reduced by however many

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versions of it there are. If we're looking at it as a zero sum game, which I don't tend

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to like to do. So I'll there, I hope there's a better perspective on that out there, but

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it's just fascinating. That idea has always stuck with me of like, when you know the true

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vibrate and true name, which I would say is the true vibration of something, then you're

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able to, to master it essentially. But, um, Oh, I have a really good point that I distracted

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myself from. Okay. We are, um, if I heard this correctly, you said like the more languages

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get created from a core sound, it kind of bastardizes it. Well, what if it reinforces

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it? Ooh, speak more. Well, I mean, there's so many words in Spanish that are the same

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in English that are the same in French that are similar to Italian that probably have

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reaches in check and like it, it's all connected somehow. And it's like saying, you know, well,

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we made 8 billion of us, we bastardized humanity or did we reinforce it? I would say we definitely

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reinforce it. Um, and it takes you back to this one time that I was in the psych ward

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and I had all these really cool, um, downloads coming to me and I kept finding a similarity

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between Christ and Krishna, just those two sounds. And then I found the similarity between

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hallelujah and had a Krishna. And if you say the same, if you say the both over and over

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again, they kind of start to sound the same. And I mean, I didn't know either one of those

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dudes personally, but I can imagine that maybe it was kind of the same person saying the

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same thing. And then people who spoke different languages started telling the story in their

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own language. And, and then we separated, but then isn't that the process of defining,

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refining and then redefining? And so for me, I feel like if we only had one version of

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that, how did Krishna sound, then a whole chunk of the planet would have missed out

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on what that vibration has to offer by ways of hallelujah. So I don't know. There's a

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thought. Cool. But I'm no expert. I just got out of the psych ward. I'm glad you said it.

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Like I always wondered about those kinds of things because you, you definitely feel and

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hear and see similarities. And I always had those thoughts like, what if it's like the

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same thing and it was slightly changed and it shifted and it was also perhaps more fitting

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for a different culture, maybe just a thought. So yeah, such a cool observation.

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It would be boring with just English, just English. Yeah. It doesn't matter how much

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fun you can have with it. Like I said earlier on, like my, you know, I studied in German

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language at university. So most of the subjects I was studying were in German and German is

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just such a structured language. There is rules. Like I was always so, like I always

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wanted to know rules for things in English because I was so used to having rules for

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how you pronounce things, how you put things together, how you create a new word. You know,

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there is perhaps, I guess, almost like a blueprint of how you would do those things in German.

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And while there are some rules for let's say English pronunciation, there are so many exceptions

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that you would say maybe it's not really a rule. There is a lot of words that would be

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pronounced in such a way. There is also loads of words that will be pronounced in a whole

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different way. And I find it so interesting. And I wonder whether it's also connected to

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the culture, whether perhaps German people are structured in certain ways. When you visit

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their cities, when you visit their country, there is a system for things. And I do love

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it about them very much so. And then in Czech it's also slightly different because that's

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my mother tongue. But sometimes I find it easier to observe those things in foreign

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to me languages such as English or German. And then last summer I was visiting Italy

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for a couple of weeks and I was just shocked at how many words I can just understand just

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because I obviously see, let's say the word has the same root as it would in English or

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German or in Czech and I can just put things together. Isn't that so cool? That's like

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a superpower. I mean, that's a superpower.

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the English word doesn't, you can't source the English word fast enough to describe what

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the thing is. And it's like, please just know this French word because the French word,

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this is the word that describes what I'm feeling or talking about or that kind of thing. And

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yeah, so German has been a language that I have never really fucked with a whole lot

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until I had a friend a few years ago who learned German in school the way that I had learned

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French in school and that kind of thing. And so she started showing me German things. I'm

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like, oh, that is so much closer to English than I would have ever guessed. Because like

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French and English are not, I mean, they're different. They're definitely different, but

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like there's a lot of fringlish that you can pass by on and in Canada at least. And but

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German, I was shocked at how parallel German was to English in that way.

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especially in England, you can notice it is how certain words have come from French. And

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when I ask English people about it, sometimes they are not familiar with it. They actually

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don't think it's a French word. But for me, as the part, sorry, yeah, absolutely. But

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even like words such as chauffeur, right? Like not everyone realizes it's actually originally

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a French word. And then when you've got things such as continue and carry on, like their

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meaning is similar, the same in some way, it could be a synonym. And one of them comes

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from French and words such as carry on is a phrasal verb. And those were, as they say,

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according to history, were created by more like English common people in England during

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like medieval ages, while the upper classes were learning French. So they would say continue

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and this I just I just find all of these things so interesting. And then like a whole different

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topic. One I find so interesting when it comes to language is like the emotional codes we

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have with words, and how one word can actually bring up a lot of emotions for us without

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us even understanding it fully. While for someone else, it doesn't mean anything. So

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I'm just I'm just curious to hear your thoughts on this, because I know you mentioned NLP,

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neuro linguistic programming, which I also studied, it's something you've got to study

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when when you want to become a clinical hypnotherapist, then it's one of the first things you learn

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as a hypnotherapist, like, you've got to use the right language, you've got to be really

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aware of how your client speaks, how they describe their painful memory. Because if

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you describe it in a whole different way, if you use your own languaging and words,

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they might not actually resonate, they might not have such a result from a hypnosis session

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with you. And it's not really just about copying their language. But it's really about seeing

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beyond the words they say, and be able to bring that into that hypnosis experience.

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So they feel seen witnessed hurt, and they feel like they've changed within that session.

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And I wasn't really sure what to call it. And that's why I started calling it an emotional

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coding. Like we have an emotional code with a certain word, and it gets triggered. And

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sometimes it could be a really positive thing, while other times it can feel like, wow, it

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actually feels overwhelming. And such an example could be the word family, you know, a word

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we use all the time. For someone that word could be very triggering. For another person,

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it could be like, oh my gosh, like, yeah, I get so excited just by thinking about my

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family, or maybe I see my family. Or I see my friends and people around me as family,

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and you see like, there's just so many levels to all of that. And it really is the energy

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behind it, isn't it?

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It's in NLP, one of the exercises that we learned was a drop through. And so you literally

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take a word, a word is often the unit that you want, not supposed to like a memory or

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belief or that kind of thing. It's literally a word, and you transform it, you literally

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drop through, you literally take them through an exercise to change the shape and texture

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and storage location and sensation and experience of that word into something different at the

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end. And you literally remap that word and the neurological connections to it. And so

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the, it's a really fun exercise to do because the way people's whole physiology changes,

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you like watch them go through that transformation is brilliant because it takes like five minutes

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to do this. And you can just see the like melt out of them as they're as it's happening.

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Because usually you don't pick a word that's like really fun and great. And like, let's

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change that around. Usually pick a word that has a lot some density to it to change. But

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I know, Shana, you have a different method of reorganizing those that storage location,

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I'm, I, it's, it's interesting to hear you guys talk about these methods that have names

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because I didn't learn them as a method. It was just something, I guess if I could say

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I learned it from anywhere, it would have been Abraham Hicks talking about the language

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that you use. And so just changing it myself and watching my experiences change as I changed

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the words gave me all the information that you guys just came up with. But I keep thinking

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about the, there's a downstairs of my Airbnb, there's a little convenience store and there's

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a lovely Spanish couple that works there. And the wife doesn't speak English very well.

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She understands a little bit and the husband, he's pretty good. And I mean, I don't even

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know how these conversations start, but we're talking about the matrix in life and stuff

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like that. And he will say that his English is not very good. Yet we're talking about

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concepts that are interdimensional and time travel stuff. And so, I mean, I, the fact

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that we can communicate about that doesn't matter how good your English is at the end

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of the day, because in terms of using words with meaning, that's how we're communicating.

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I know that he only knows enough English to like convey basic topics, but I can help him

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say what he say what's in his head. It's like, I can feel the energy of what he's trying

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to express and I'll throw out different English words and he'll be like, oh yeah, that's the

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one or I'll have to describe an English word that I just use. And then he puts it through

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his Spanish translator and then he gets a concept. And now we're communicating about

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concepts, not just words. And there was a moment where we were talking about how he

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was like the words, right? Simple words. He's blocked in money. He feels stuck around money.

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And he told me some of the basic situations and I just heard the words that he's using.

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And this is what makes it so cool about communicating with someone who doesn't have English as their

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first language, because the words that they're using carry a lot of meaning because they

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don't have a lot of other words. And so number one, it forces me to really simplify what

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I'm trying to say. It forces me to slow down in speaking and it forces me to listen more

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to what they're saying. And he kept saying, I'm waiting for this to come through. I'm

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waiting for this to come through. And I was like, I can work with this. Like I know he's

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not speaking English in his head, but I can work with what he's speaking right now. And

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so I just said, change the concept of waiting. Like when you keep saying waiting, what you're

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reinforcing is that this money is not coming, that you are living in the space of waiting

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for the money to come. And then he put that through his Spanish speaker in his brain and

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it made sense to him. And just like you were saying, Lauren, you can watch the transformation.

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I watched it happen. And he said at the end of it, like, I really don't even feel stuck

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anymore messages me the next morning. And he's like, the bank offered me a loan. I didn't

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even ask for it. And somebody wants to buy the property that I was waiting to be sold.

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And so as soon as he just shifted something mentally, everything around him shifted and

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it was around language. However, that's not the language that his mind and his imagination

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operates in. He speaks a different language there. But when you're talking about a universal

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concept, it kind of doesn't matter what exactly the words you're using are, as long as you

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can convey the messages. And I just, I want to have one more thing in here because Lauren,

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we always come back to colonialism and you had talked about it, Sepenca with the continue

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versus carry on. And I have so many English as second language people say to me, my English

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isn't good. And I'm like, well, we're talking, we're communicating, we're talking about things

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that most people can't talk about. So what do you mean your English isn't very good?

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And then I go on to say that it probably has a lot to do with the colonialism and the way

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that English speakers were taking over the world. And it has become or did become a way

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of distinguishing you by class. How good was your English? And so now that the majority

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of English speakers do not speak proper English, what does that mean anymore? It feel like

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there's a lot of powers that be that are trying to hold on to the power of proper English

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and they hold it over anyone's heads. Doesn't matter where you were born. You could be like

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from Louisiana. That's not proper English, but that's English. And everyone here that

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speaks English is not speaking proper English, but it's English. And Sepenca, you're not

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speaking proper English, but we're all communicating in this language and understanding each other

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on levels beyond words. So there.

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Oh my gosh. I'm just gonna jump in with something because no one knows I had just written from

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the Czech Republic. So me and my partner, we spent the past eight days visiting my family

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in the Czech Republic and there is something that's been happening with my partner and

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my family for years, like since we got together. So for the past almost seven years now, and

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I am so curious to hear what you two think about it. So my parents don't speak English

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very much. Like my dad, probably he can understand a lot more because he traveled for his work

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in the past. So I feel like he actually understands a lot more than he says he does. Probably

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eavesdropping all the time, who knows. But my mom, she's very shy. Like she wouldn't

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really say anything even if I, you know, I knew she's like trying to learn more English

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words so she can communicate with my partner who like really struggles with Czech. He doesn't

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really know anything. And every time I'm out and about with my parents and my partner,

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there is this thing that happens over and over again. Let's say we're walking somewhere

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and my mom will say to me in Czech, wow, notice this cafe, look at this funny sign that's

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above the shopfront. Like one minute later, my partner will be like in English, oh my

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god, look at this, look at this sign, how funny is this? Then the other day we were

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traveling to Vienna, we took my partner on a day trip to Austria. And we had to take

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a lift from one of the car parks. And there was a sign, this lift is for eight people.

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And it was tiny, like four of us like squashed inside this lift. And my mom says, I can't

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imagine how eight people would fit into this lift. The next minute my partner goes, I can't

399
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imagine how eight people would fit in this lift. And he says it in English, she says

400
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it in Czech. They don't understand each other at all. And it happens over and over again.

401
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Like I laugh all the time because they, it's like they say the same things within, you

402
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know, a few minutes without actually understanding or pointing towards something. It's not like

403
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my mom went and pointed towards the number eight that she saw on the lift or anything.

404
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:48,920
It happens so naturally. And I mentioned it to a friend of mine who is Spanish, and her

405
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:54,680
mom speaks only Spanish, her partner is English. And she said, oh my god, that happens in my

406
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family all the time. It's like, I don't get it. How do they understand each other? They're

407
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not even trying to understand each other. They are just observing something, commenting

408
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:10,280
on something or they have the same idea. And that happens all of the time. And it really

409
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makes me think like, there's more to it. Like,

410
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Okay, I totally have a theory. Yeah, I totally have a theory. And this is the thing that

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I forgot beforehand. Shana talking just reminded me of it. And it now applies even 9 million

412
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times more than I thought it would. So, what I was thinking before was that it's amazing

413
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how I'm thinking specifically of English, but like in English, you could say one sentence

414
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and it could have 16 different meanings. And depending on your intonation and depending

415
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on the context, and depending on what's going on, you could be super offensive. You could

416
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be super celebratory. Like, you, somebody might understand you, somebody might not understand

417
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,720
you, right? Like it would, there's so many different ways for that. And so the words

418
00:43:53,720 --> 00:44:02,240
kind of act, they're a signpost to a path saying we can go down this path, but the post

419
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really might have 16 different signs on it and you can take whatever of these paths at

420
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this next point that you can go from. But beyond underneath all of the words and underneath

421
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all these signposts and underneath all the paths and underneath all of this stuff that,

422
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you know, language hints at, there is something underneath that, that is, I want to call it

423
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the truth, but I think it might be more accurate to call it the vibrational experience of what

424
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you're having. The thing that your cells and your soul and the inner part of you that has

425
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:45,200
no language understands. So for instance, to use NLP terms, because you know, the world

426
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exists around us, lights sends a signal into our eyeballs and then our eyeballs register,

427
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,400
oh signal there, this is what's going on. And your brain renders a picture based on

428
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what your cells have received and that, that, and there's a different transformation that

429
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happens in your brain after that to send it back out through speech or through whatever.

430
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And that part that's doing the, the understanding between the sensory input and the sensory

431
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output and that kind of thing. I think that is connected to, I want to call it the imaginal

432
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:22,200
realm to the, the, it's part of our experience that only exists in vibration. The thing that

433
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we use language to hint at, to point to, to get towards, to get closer to, but that you

434
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:34,560
really only ever experience in vibration. And so when we take that like very esoteric

435
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:39,520
theory and put it into the context of like your Czech mom and your English partner looking

436
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:46,920
at the same sign, the, that sign, you know, was created with the intent of, of pointing

437
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:53,200
us to the cafe. We'll say it's meant to get your attention. It's meant to draw you into

438
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the cafe. And so beyond whatever colors, like they would have used specific colors. They

439
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,680
would have used specific words. They would have used specific images. The shape would

440
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:07,280
have had a specific sign to convey, Hey, pay attention and go into this cafe. And that

441
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goes beyond language. And I think more than just a sign because a sign that's branding

442
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and advertising and that is a very intentional thing to communicate something without words,

443
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but even just like, so when we think about the conversation that we're having here, our

444
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words and the sentences and things that we're saying are kind of communicating one thing

445
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:31,880
and then they're trying to communicate what's going on in our viscera and it's like visceral

446
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:37,760
vibrational experience. And the, when you come into like a mastery of language, you

447
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:43,240
can communicate a master of language and storytelling. You can hit on that vibration and communicate

448
00:46:43,240 --> 00:46:49,880
the vibration purely. And that is, I think art and that comes back to creativity, right?

449
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,960
Like that comes back to being able to explore and know, and, and I suppose quantify that

450
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,240
vibrational experience through the form of language, whatever language you're using.

451
00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:03,880
And so I think like that makes perfect and total and complete sense to me that these

452
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people across different languages who have no understanding of each other would have

453
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:14,920
the same experience because internally vibrationally they're having the same experience, right?

454
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That's why your Czech mom and your, and your English partner can love you so much. They're

455
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having the same experience of the person and your whole totality that you are. And that

456
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doesn't need language because we're all vibrating.

457
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:37,480
Yeah, I love that. Thank you so much for sharing your theory.

458
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:43,800
Can I, can I go now? I have a theory of a couple of them. They're fun. Directly related

459
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:52,800
to Lauren, what you just said. I think that over time, say this, this sign, let's talk

460
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:59,160
about the copy sign. Um, if it's funny, if you find it funny and your partner did and

461
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:05,200
your mom did probably not the only ones. So there has been, that's funny attention shot

462
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:11,120
towards that physical object over and over and over and over again. So as a vibrational

463
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:18,320
thought form, that's funny is just hovering over this sign and thought forms exists and

464
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:24,680
we connect with them and then experience them. And sometimes we experienced them through

465
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expressing words or having feelings or drawing creativity, blah, blah, blah. Um, and so it's

466
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as if your partner and your mother both connected with that thought form and translated it in

467
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:44,960
the languages that they speak. That just exists. It's the way it is. Um, another part of that,

468
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:56,280
I think is that this Stepanka is your video game. If we're going by that theory, your

469
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:02,320
mother and your partner are just aspects of yourself. They don't even exist for you outside

470
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of you. Um, so they are like, it's as if you're the, you're the bridge between the two of

471
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them and you're like the magnet for the thought forms that they're sharing. One's expressing

472
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:24,440
it in English and one's expressing it in Czech. And it's, it's all just you. These people

473
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:30,160
are so close to you. They love you so much. They're so in sync with each other because

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you're so in sync with them in your life. And, and I see it as a representation of the

475
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harmony that you've chosen for yourself, that these two completely unrelated people are

476
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having the same experience because they're connected to you. It's all just aligned as

477
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:59,760
is. Those are my ideas. I really resonate with that. And with like energetic thought

478
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:05,160
forms, that is something like I really do believe in.

479
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So I was thinking too, when you're talking with those energetic thought forms, that kind

480
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of goes back to my question of creating truth and creating the group meanings behind language

481
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and that kind of thing. Right. Because all truth is, is that enough people have agreed

482
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on the same thing that we accept that as the principle thing. Um, if you shift what people

483
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:34,760
agree on, then like that becomes what is socially accepted as truth. Um, and so there's different

484
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,960
levels of truth though. There's the socially accepted level of truth and then there's what

485
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truth is. So,

486
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:44,720
yes. So I'm not, I'm not talking about the like known inside level of truth. I'm talking

487
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about what would be written in a textbook as truth and that kind of thing. The fact.

488
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:58,040
Yes. Sure. Absolutely. And so the words that, yes, yes, yes. That's the level that I'm speaking

489
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of. And so thinking of the fact and those thought forms, like those thought forms, create

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00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:07,600
fact. Those thought forms create words. Those thought forms create, um, the thing. And I

491
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:12,400
think that goes back, um, to something like the agregore and something like the, once

492
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,560
enough people have put their attention on it. I think I'm just repeating what you said.

493
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:21,480
I agree with you. And I think that that is what creates facts.

494
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:26,160
I think it's, I think it's both. I think it's a play between both. It might've been, oh,

495
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:35,120
the guy I married. I think he asked me about astrology. Were the concepts of say the signs,

496
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did they exist? And then were they translated by other people or were they created and then

497
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:48,200
adopted by other people? And I said, honestly, I don't know. And at this point, I don't think

498
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:53,480
it matters because as a collective over thousands of years, we have all agreed that these symbols

499
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:58,000
create contain these meanings. It doesn't matter where it started. This is the path

500
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:04,920
we're on now. And we all have our own different versions of this truth, but it revolves around

501
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:10,440
this being the truth. However, it happened at this point is irrelevant. And so I think

502
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:16,880
it, it was at the end of the day, a play between both. It, it is there and we bring it and

503
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,240
then we change it and we put it back there and then someone else picks it and changes

504
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:25,120
it. And it's that constant terrifying to terrific.

505
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:36,960
So Pega, what has been your experience with the thought forms that you're talking about?

506
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:44,200
I feel like in some ways we are tapping into them and I really resonated with what Shona

507
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:55,360
said about like, there's always like energy hovering around certain cafe signs and everything

508
00:52:55,360 --> 00:53:02,760
else in between. And there is also the idea of actually all of this being something I

509
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:10,280
am creating in many ways. And it really is a thought I was playing with a lot last night

510
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:16,600
because as you know, I was traveling and it wasn't an easy journey. My flight would delay

511
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:23,040
like three times. And then finally, when we took off mid flight, they told us we will

512
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:28,480
land at a different airport, technically in a different country, not in England, but in

513
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:35,400
Wales. And, and we were just so exhausted. We knew we will be traveling all night. We

514
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:43,640
will get home, you know, for like 730 in the morning. And I was just observing the world

515
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:50,680
around me. Some people were sat at the airport and were like, you know, so annoyed, so angry,

516
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:57,880
really struggling with these updates and changes. And then I saw a group of younger girls and

517
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:04,320
they were having the time of their lives. They were laughing and giggling, you know,

518
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:09,120
the flight was delayed at this point, like three and a half hours and they were just

519
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,360
making the most out of it. And I could really see like they're just injuring themselves

520
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,880
because they are together. Maybe they are on a girl's trip. You know, I'm creating my

521
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:22,600
own story about what they are up to. I might be completely wrong. But, um, they're just

522
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:27,880
having a really great time. Then I saw a couple and they get like, you know, cuddling each

523
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:32,360
other and I'm like, maybe they're just making the most out of this delay because that means

524
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:38,520
they will spend more time together. And then I just reminded myself like, how am I choosing

525
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:44,440
to experience it? Like what was the energy I'm going to create? Am I going to be really

526
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:51,280
pissed off? Am I going to be annoyed and angry at the cabin crew or, or am I actually like

527
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:56,480
feel good? Like, can I choose to feel magical and incredible even though like all those

528
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:02,720
delays and inconveniences are happening? And then when they announced the mid flight that

529
00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:08,240
we were at a different airport and they don't know what will happen next, you know, at like

530
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:13,800
two in the morning. Again, I had that choice again and I'm like, okay, what energy am I

531
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:19,160
tapping in? And I sometimes imagine it is like, like an, like a bubble of energy somewhere

532
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,760
floating and I'm just tapping into it.

533
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:28,880
So is that creativity? Is that where creativity lives? Because it feels like in this moment

534
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:34,560
where you are in observation, right? Like, cause when you're painting, you're not necessarily

535
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:40,160
observing you stand back and then you're observing. So in this moment of observation, you're presented

536
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:45,120
with these different mediums, these different thought forms to choose from. You can look

537
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:49,320
at the people having an awful time or you can look at the people having a good time.

538
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:53,240
How do you know that? Because of the energy that they're emitting. It's a feeling. And

539
00:55:53,240 --> 00:55:57,800
so now you're focusing on these girls having a blast and you're creating stories in your

540
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:03,320
head that are a blast. And it doesn't matter if they're true or not, because you're starting

541
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:10,480
to create emotion around this and you're starting to create momentum in the form of having a

542
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:16,080
good time. And then you decide what, now I know the tools that are in front of me, what

543
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:21,200
am I going to use for my own experience? And then you continue on that route of, I want

544
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,840
to have a good time. I'm going to look at the couple cuddling. This is going to be great.

545
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:30,560
You just, you just be there. Is that the moment of like creativity presenting itself and then

546
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,720
choosing it? Cause you could look at the couple and be like, yeah, well they probably have

547
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:38,800
no misery in their life. So they don't understand how miserable I am. Like there's so many different

548
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:45,200
ways you can interact with that, except you chose to accept this kind of creativity, the

549
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:51,360
kind that made you feel X, Y, Z and then went with it. Like, is that what it looks like

550
00:56:51,360 --> 00:57:00,400
when it happens? That's a question. Somebody tell me the answer.

551
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:05,600
I think that fits with how Svetaanka was talking about it. Absolutely.

552
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:16,800
Yeah. Like I feel like creativity, what is the verb here? Create. So I feel like in some

553
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:26,160
way I was creatively creating my own experience and it really feels like there is energies,

554
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:31,560
there is emotions. And I was more like, okay, I'm choosing to tap into this one. That's

555
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:37,400
what I'm choosing here for myself. Okay. Fuck me. That's so potent because I was,

556
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:42,720
I was thinking like, well, I always view creativity as an output, but then when you said, what's

557
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:48,000
the verb here? It's create. And it's like, well, of course you create your own reality.

558
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:53,640
You create your own experience. And so in that sense, there is no like output, there

559
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,880
is no finish line in that, like in the sense of like, you create a painting or you like

560
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:07,280
create a song of music, that kind of thing. Right. And so like the, that create, you know,

561
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,960
what is the verb in that? The creativity, the experience, like it literally is your

562
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,200
experience. Your creativity literally is your mindset. Oh, that just like, that just hits

563
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:21,360
the spot because for me at least, because I know a while ago, like I want to say a year

564
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:26,800
ago or something like that, I was presenting at the art gallery in my hometown. We were

565
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:31,440
doing a talk. Um, it was for international women's day. There was a bunch of women artists

566
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:36,840
who were talking about their experiences, women artists, and every, everybody who talked

567
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:42,080
and said that they kind of came to a point in their life where like living became art.

568
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,040
And that was the, you know, there was always a question of like, am I really considered

569
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,820
an artist? Am I good enough to be considered an artist? Or like, you know, that was always

570
00:58:49,820 --> 00:58:55,880
in play. And then until that realization that like just living is art. And I agreed with

571
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,920
it at the time. And I think that it's true. However, that really just clicked into place

572
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:05,280
for me of like, you're creating your viewpoint. You're creating your experience of the world

573
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:09,240
is the fucking magic and is the creative act.

574
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:19,280
It was for me, it was finding art in ordinary things that as a teenager made me not want

575
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:25,720
to kill myself anymore.

576
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:26,720
Is it? Wow.

577
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:33,080
I remember being so depressed. I had a boyfriend that was on and off, but you know, he was

578
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:38,960
saving me from my tumultuous relationship with my mother. Um, and during one breakup,

579
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:47,160
I remember thinking, well, I like what Cosmo girl, y'all remember Cosmo girl, the magazine,

580
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:56,800
not there was a, an art piece in there that said happiness is a desk is a, say it, say

581
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:02,940
it the destination. It's not the journey, not the destination.

582
01:00:02,940 --> 01:00:09,280
And I was in world religions learning about like choosing your experiences and God and

583
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:14,880
all of that stuff. And so I had come to this conclusion that I have to choose happiness.

584
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:21,800
And so when we had this breakup, I thought, how can I look at this differently? And why

585
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:27,840
I remember like, I, it sticks in my head is now you have more time to paint because I

586
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:34,000
used to just paint all the time. And so I had decided that whenever I was going to feel

587
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:38,680
sad about something, I would just go paint because this means that now I have time to

588
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:47,480
paint. And I think it was from there that I realized I had to, I had to choose to look

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at everything beautiful if I wanted to have a beautiful life because otherwise I was going

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to kill myself. So it was sort of a challenge to myself and to life to present its most

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beautiful faces to me because otherwise I'm not going to play anymore. And it was seeing

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the job I had to get because I was on my own at 17 of making pizza as an art. You can't

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just throw all the toppings on there. There's a way to do it. And working with that fucking

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dough, you can't do it the first time. And so I realized that when I could work with

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that though, that I had mastered the art of pizza making. I am an artist of pizza making.

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And so it made me want to look at everything as an art. And it was like a video game that

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if I can find the art in this, then I move on to the next level. And I started to see

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every simple thing as creativity. And I guess eventually it came into that is what life

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is. If there is a creator that created the things and all of the things are creation,

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including myself. And that's how it keeps going. It's just creativity, like gravity,

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whether you believe it or not, it's there. It's still doing its thing. We don't have

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to make it do it or not. We have nothing to do with it. So I think it is, it's a thing

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that's always existing. And in your output method, Lauren, like you can, you can pull

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from it and output it into your experience. But it's still there. It's still functioning,

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whether you're paying attention or not. And I, I don't know, guess chose to pay attention

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to interact creatively. How does that resonate with you, Stabenga?

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I thank you so much for sharing that. And I, I could resonate with many, many aspects

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of your own story. And I, I had like, it's so funny, I had this realization with pasta.

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Yes. I knew there's gonna be something about Italian food. But I remember like my parents

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trusted me enough to leave me at home for the weekend. So my parents always had this

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summer house and it was in a forest. And you know, it's amazing now as an adult, I can

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appreciate it. But as a teenager, who wants to hang out with their friends on a weekend,

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I didn't want to be stuck somewhere in the middle of nowhere with my parents at the weekend.

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So finally I managed to stay at home by myself. And I was like, what do I do? Like, yeah,

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I've got this house to myself. And I'm like, I'm gonna cook pasta. And I was so influenced

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by Cosmo Girl and Cosmopolitan and all these kinds of magazines. And I'm like, I'm gonna

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create like a sensual meal for myself. And so I cooked my spaghetti and then I cooked

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my tomatoes and I was just like putting it all together. And I'm like, this is beauty.

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This is art. And it's so funny looking, baby, because I was so young. I was just like, there

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is luxury and beauty in everything. And I feel like as children, we all saw it. I was

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given like my first ever camera when I was pretty young. It was like, it had like smarties

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all over it. So it wasn't a good quality camera. And I think you could get like five pictures

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out of it, you know. And I went out and I took a picture of daisies and then of green

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grass and then of a cloud in the sky. And I was just like, wow, this is art. This is

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so beautiful. And then a friend of mine from school came home and she's like, was this

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rubbish? And I'm like, no, that's my art. Like I see the beauty in it. And then of course,

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as a teenager later, I wasn't in touch with all of that. But I feel like, you know, as

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a child, I definitely saw that beauty and an art that's in everything in life.

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I think creativity is the closest thing to God. And I think kids are the closest thing

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to God. And the way that they find and express their creativity is divine. And I think advice

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for ourselves or anybody else listening to this, if finding that creative bubble is a

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challenge, just remember what you did as a kid or what you wanted to do as a kid. Because

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that's the gold. I think that's the freedom. I would look at the kids I nanny for when

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my little Lucy would take my camera and take pictures. What's a six-year-old taking pictures

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of? Like shadows and flowers and grass and her friends and like, this is what she finds

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beauty in and shadows. So yeah, I loved how you brought that specific image into my head

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because it's a good reminder for me as well. And thank you, both of you.

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Oh my gosh, I'm so glad to hear it. It's not just me or I used to record like the, you

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know, when you had like a like one of those old school, because that's players and I would

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record the birds singing outside my window as a little kid. They were like thunderstorm

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or like the leaves and falling over tree. I found all those things. So intriguing. Yes.

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I love that. I used to do a cassette. I used to do a cassette radio show. I love that.

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Yeah, my sister, no, with my sister and her friends, we would, there was one microphone

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that plugged into my dad's old stereo and we'd make a radio show and then like sit by

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the radio and wait for our favorite songs to play and like hit and like put the songs

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in between our radio show stuff. It was a ton of fun. Anyway, thank you so much ladies

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for joining me for this conversation. This has been a delight. Yeah. So much for that

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to that detour into entomology. That was fucking brilliant. Yeah. Love that. There's a big

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neon arrow pointing to that one. Yes. Thank you so much for just like bringing your whole

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self and just be like, Oh yeah, this is just random part of me that I did. And it's like,

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love it so much. Oh my gosh. I had so much fun today. Thank you. Oh my gosh. So grateful.

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Both of you are just such brilliant smart women. It's really great for you. Oh, wasn't

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that conversation show fucking amazing? Like that just hit that just hit of like how that

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creative life force comes through in the way that we communicate and comes through in the

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way that we experience the world around us and how we understand and experience truth

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within us and how we communicate that truth without us. Oh, oh, just love it. Fucking

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love it. If you would like more of the goodness that you heard in this conversation, you can

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connect with any of us on here. We would love to hear from you, work for you, work with

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you. I mean, I myself am a coach. I love helping people get into action on their dreams. I

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love being able to have conversations, whether they're on the podcast in on camera, that

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kind of thing, or whether they're one on one kind of behind the scenes. I love being able

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to have conversations with people to pull out the love and the beauty and the sense

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they have for life.

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I love getting people juiced up about their dreams and then going out and doing them.

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Shauna is an advice giver. If you would like to connect with her, you can send her a message

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on Instagram. Her handle is the Shauna Lee and she would love to help you rewire and

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reimagine the things in your brain. Whether that is your words, how you think about things,

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whether that is your memories or something that has been really, really sticking out

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to you. She would love to help you with that. And last but not least, Topanga does a fabulous

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job with hypnotherapy and she has a free hypnotherapy session available for everybody who is listening.

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And she also has a one time consultation at a great rate. So both of those will be linked

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in the show notes. If you would like to hear more, work more with Topanga. If you'd like

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to be on the podcast, feel free to send us a message at Casually Profound. And if you'd

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like to work with me, you can always just shoot a message either at Casually Profound

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or at my Instagram, which is I am Lauren. Also linked in the show notes. I love you.

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Thank you for having this conversation with us. Thank you for being on with us and we

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will see you next week. New conversations come out every Thursday and I will, I will

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give you a little teaser here. If you stuck to the end, here's a little teaser. The podcast

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is going to be going through a big rebrand. Big. Season one is going to be coming to an

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end in the next one or two episodes, three episodes. And then after that, we're going

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in a, we're pivoting, we're going in a new direction. It honestly is a little bit closer

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to the vision that I had for the podcast from day one. I actually went back into my old

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like Pinterest vision board that I have the podcast and the rebrand is like 9 million

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times more aligned than what I have been doing so far. And so I'm just really fucking excited

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to be aligning more deeply and truly with myself. And so thank you so fucking much for

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being on this ride so far and listening to all the episodes and listening to all the

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stories and listening to all the guests and myself and everybody go on about our lives

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and how we've experienced spiritual concepts in real life. Thank you. Thank you. Thank

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you. Thank you. Thank you. And I'm so excited to make the journey with you into the new

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and exciting future as well. I hope that you like it and enjoy them as much as I do. I

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know I'm really excited about it. And so keep your eyes peeled because it's going to be

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a new look. If you don't follow us already on Instagram or handle us at cashly profound,

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please give a follow over there and you can watch the whole thing unfold before your very

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eyes. So thank you for coming out. So thank you for staying tuned and we'll see you again

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next week.