2005 Christmas Special "The Christmas Invasion" w/ Catrina Parker & Jesse Garcia

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Welcome to Across the Hooniverse, the Doctor Who Marathon Podcast.
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I'm your friendly neighborhood Time Lord Chelsea.
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And I'm your Muppet of a Time Lord, Paige.
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Merry Christmas, Paige.
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It's beautiful.
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It's snowing right now.
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Or is that ashes from a spaceship that just like disintegrated into the atmosphere?
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Who knows?
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Who knows?
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Who could say?
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It's beautiful.
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I know somebody who could say.
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We have two amazing guests.
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One is the coolest, smartest Huvian I know.
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And the other is a Huvian in training.
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Katrina, Jesse, welcome back to the show.
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I think this is your second appearance for both of you.
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Yep.
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See, I can do math.
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Second appearance in my second episode.
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Very happy to be here again.
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I'm so excited to have you.
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Merry Christmas.
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Merry Christmas.
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Christmas came so early this year.
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It really did.
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This is like Britney Haynes is gonna save Santa on Big Brother, but it's Doctor Who.
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It's Jesse, is this the same level of silly as Big Brother Reindeer Games?
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It actually, I will say that that was like one of my questions.
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I was like, what genres does this show fall into?
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Because again, the first the episode number four is pretty campy.
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This one was like very comedic.
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It is a Christmas special.
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So just a little background.
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This is the series two, technically series two, series one in-between Christmas special, written by Russell T.
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Davies, directed by James Hall.
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This it originally aired on Christmas Day 2005.
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It features the 10th Doctor in his first real episode.
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Rose Tyler, of course, Jackie Tyler, Light of My Life, Mickey Smith, and the Sycorax.
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And even though this aired in on Christmas 2005, it is set on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day 2006 because time travel, baby.
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So, y'all, this is a very important, hard-hitting journalism question.
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I gave you about 12 seconds to think about it.
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Which doctor would you like to spend Christmas or New Year's with?
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I feel like I would want to.
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I mean, Jillie's my favorite, but I feel like um the 11th doctor would do Christmas up really well.
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I really think he would do Christmas really well, especially since Jody Whitaker has said that she cannot cook.
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That is also my answer was the 11th Doctor.
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As much as I love 13, because he would just like be really wacky and have a good time, and he would come up with weird foods to eat, like fish fingers and custard.
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We'd be chaotic.
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Yes.
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Jesse, that is Matt Smith from your House of the Dragons.
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Okay.
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This won't surprise you to hear I'm having like genuine anxiety making this decision.
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Because A, I've only seen two episodes of the show, and I actually don't really like Christmas.
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So I truly I'm just like, do I just say who I think is the hottest?
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And that just feels inappropriate.
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That could be a good Christmas.
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That could be a good Christmas.
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That's how you want to interpret it.
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Yeah, we don't mind how you spend Christmas.
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You could be doing whatever.
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Jesse, who's the hottest doctor?
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I feel like I don't know if this will be surprising for you to hear or not, but I always, which again, I I preface this, but I feel like the second I say this, Chelsea, like, oh, actually, you didn't know this person killed cats.
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I'll be like, ah.
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So this is based on me not knowing anything about these people's personal lives.
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Um but I always thought David Tennant was cute.
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Can you believe he killed cats?
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I don't know.
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He's the worst person alive.
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No, actually, he hates JK Rowling and supports trans people so much.
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So we love David Tennant.
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He's lovely.
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He's a good man.
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He's a good guy.
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He seems like it.
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He seems like somebody who'd be nice.
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That's always my meaning.
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Like any guy who looks like he wouldn't be mean to me.
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I mean, I don't know.
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He was pretty intense in this episode.
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He was.
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He was going through it to be fair.
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He just died and he was like trying to come back to life.
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Personally, for Paddington reasons, I'm going to pick Peter Capaldi because I want to be in a Paddington movie and I associate those with Christmas.
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But Jody, we can all spend New Year's together and you can be chaotic.
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It's fine.
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There you go.
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What Jody and the Night Doctor.
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We'll see what they're doing on Christmas.
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Who knows?
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And then Shooty, Shotie's invited to everything.
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Yes.
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Because also hot.
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He knows how to party.
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He really does.
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But I would feel like I would need to step up my clothes game standing next to him.
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Here's the thing.
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Just that one still of Shootie and Virata in the club that never actually happened on Doctor Who because they cut the scene.
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Just seeing it, I'm like, these are the two most beautiful people in the world.
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I could not keep up in the club.
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No.
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Paige, while I'm vamping, you send Jesse the picture of them in the club.
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It's very important.
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This is the current Doctor Who?
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Uh the current outgoing doctor.
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We don't the current doctor, technically, we don't have a 16th doctor.
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We are all saying Joe Martin, the fugitive doctor, is the current one because there's a lot of extended universe stuff happening right now with her.
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But she's technically like the before the first Doctor Doctor.
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The timeline's confusing.
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You'll get there whenever we talk about it.
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And like I'm not part of this fandom officially, and I've seen two episodes.
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I'm like the fact that like there's a doctor who who's like not only somebody I've recognized from other things before that, but also a little younger than me is hard for me to sit with.
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It's a really hard thing to sit with.
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I've already accepted having a really good mare that's a little younger than me in New York.
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Why would you do that?
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Again, this year this has been a hard year for me in general, with accepting that people younger than me.
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There are people in power in this world.
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But also that really hot mare's mother would be a great director for Doctor Who.
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I feel that in my bones.
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That's true.
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If I ever wanted him in the city, I will pass that along for you.
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Thank you.
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That is actually very important.
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And then, of course, our little prerequisite thing before we dive into the episode, we want to acknowledge that this episode features horrible man, Noel Clark, and generally this show does feature a lot of terrible men.
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And any discussion about him will strictly be about the character, Mickey Smith.
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And we include links to Rain's National Sexual Assault Hotline in the US and the UK's 24-hour rape and sexual abuse support line in our show notes.
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They're both 24-7.
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They have chat texting services, phone services, and Rain even uses WhatsApp.
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So everyone check that out if you need.
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And yeah, we're just gonna keep promoting that for anyone who needs it.
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Oh support the victims.
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So, y'all, this episode, let's get back into the Christmas spirit.
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I mean, this episode is so silly, Billy.
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We definitely hit the ground running.
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Quite literally.
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Like the TARDIS literally is crashing into buildings, comes into this really hot, and David Tennant is like, yo, yo, yo, what's up, what's up, what's up?
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Wait, Merry Christmas, passes out like he's a drunk girl at a college party.
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Can I just say the opening scene?
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I can ask somebody who just learned about all these things, like what when did we record?
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Was it a month ago?
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It was a month or two ago.
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I don't know.
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Timey whimey.
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Yeah.
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Some other time.
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Um, we recorded, and I was like learning about the rejuvenation, all those things of like the doctor reincarnating, whatever we're saying.
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And so watching this opening scene where like the whole cast is acting brand new about it, I was like, What?
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They're all like, wait, that can't be the doctor.
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I was like, even I know how this works.
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And I will say the fact that like they end the line on Doctor Who, and then it goes into it's like those jokes where it's like they say the title before.
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They do that in so many episodes in this series in particular, I feel like like it's always a running bit, but it's like constant.
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Well, I was wondering is like, does every time they like make a new doctor that they'd be like, What?
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Who's this?
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Or do they do they even start running with it?
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Or it's like he just does this, but not always right away, it might like pop up later.
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Yeah, it is always very random because I remember it happening in like Matt Smith's era a few times, and it's just very silly.
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And yet every single time I'm like, you know what, let's just lean into the silly.
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This is me pointing at my TV like I'm Leo, and I'm like, yeah, that's it.
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But y'all, this show, let's just get into the TARDIS wiki synopsis.
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And these synopsis that for series two, they're a lot better than series one so far, even though they're kind of silly.
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The 10th Doctor is recovering from his recent regeneration with Rose and her mom.
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Then an alien ship descends on London Christmas Eve.
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They have control of the population through blood and intend to sell human race into slavery.
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Yikes.
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Harriet Jones must appeal to them and protect the United Kingdom and the earth from the invasion.
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Even if the doctor awakens in time, Harriet Jones will still need to make a choice to defend the earth, one that will have ramifications that extend far and wide.
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Much like when Jesse prayed with every candle in his house for Tia Coffee to win Drag Race UK versus the world.
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There are ramifications you can never predict.
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I know Jesse's gonna have a lot of questions.
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What was like the first time do you remember watching this besides you, Jesse?
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Because I know it was probably the last 24 hours.
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A couple hours ago.
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And were you excited to see Harriet Jones again?
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Um, I think I was because when I first started watching the show, um, I was just kind of binging when it was still on Netflix.
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So I remembered her from the uh previous episodes, and it's just like, oh, okay, this is the golden age.
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Let's go with it and see how this goes.
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She helped save the earth from the slavene, and we were told she was great and amazing.
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And then the whole bit that like kind of happens later on, even so, where she's like introducing herself, and they're like, Yes, I I know who you are.
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Harriet Jones, prime minister.
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Yeah.
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I've I've actually had like a moment like that in my real life.
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Like, because like I'm um the president of my um library board, and I saw the mayor, and I he had met me once or twice before, but I'm like, I'm Katrina Parker, I'm the president.
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He's like, Oh, I know who you are.
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I'm like, oh, you do.
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You're a celebrity in my household, Katrina.
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Oh no.
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I'm only friends with librarians and Jesse.
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Paige, do you remember the first time you saw this probably browsing the sci-fi channel?
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I was gonna say, yeah, it would have been on like BBC America or sci-fi or whatever at the time.
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Um, I don't I didn't remember a whole lot about this episode besides like Ten fumbling around, of course, and Jackie being iconic and fighting a Christmas tree, which we'll get into.
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That kind of stuff.
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I did forget about the Harriet Jones of it all until re-watching, even though she's the pivotal part of the episode and a problematic part of the episode.
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We'll find out.
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But I was excited to see her at first because she is an interesting character.
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I remembered she was in the episode, but I didn't remember she was in the episode this much.
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And I forgot that the 10th doctor is asleep most of the time.
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Yeah.
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Like hardly in it until the end, kind of.
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I know.
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Which, like, we've had other regeneration episodes where the doctor seems like he's asleep the whole time.
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Or I say, in the case of like Matt Smith and Jody, they were like not very much asleep.
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Jody has like a power nap in her episode.
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But no, I had zero memory of the first time I watched this.
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I'm like, dang, really, I forgot so much of this episode.
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Like, there are whole segments where you're just with the people from unit and the military people.
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It's like, wow, our our main characters are not actually the main characters, it feels like.
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It's kind of an interesting one for a Christmas special, because usually the Christmas special is all about like the doctor and one other person who's not usually a big part of the show and may just be in the Christmas special.
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And this is the first of the Christmas specials.
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And because it was such a big success, and I think part of it was just David Tennant, this is his first real episode, that that that's what started the tradition of it all.
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And then Jesse, we might have to bring you back for more Christmas episodes because they just get weirder and weirder.
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There's one where Kylie Minogue is in a space Titanic disaster situation.
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That one's amazing.
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That one might be one of my favorites.
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It is interesting because I remember I was watching it at one point and I almost forgot what I was watching.
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I remember thinking, like, imagine somebody like Patriots like turning on the channel to and just stopping on there and going like 10-15 minutes, being like, What is this?
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And then like the TARDIS just appears and it's like, Oh, is this Doctor Who?
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Because like for a while, when it's like focused on like the prime minister and all those things, like I almost forgot, I was like, What am I watching?
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Like, oh yeah, this is Doctor Who.
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That is the experience of watching Doctor Who.
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Sometimes you just especially when you were just flipping through channels.
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I miss flipping through channels, y'all.
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Bring it back.
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A lost art.
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It is a lost art.
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Let's just get into the plot of this episode because so much happens, and we have to get to the Jackie Tyler of it all because I love her so much.
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My queen and everything.
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So, we open the episode on Jackie Tyler decorating a Christmas tree and wistfully putting presents under it for Rose.
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And then we cut to Mickey working at a mechanics shop, and he hears the familiar sounds of the TARDIS engines, and he just takes off to the streets, finds Jackie, and they're both shouting, We knew Rose was alive, as the TARDIS just starts bouncing off buildings and crash lands, like full halt right in front of them.
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Very silly, Billy.
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And then our tenth doctors stumble out, and he cheerfully greets them both before getting serious as he tries to remember something important he wanted to say.
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He leans on them both as he shushes them before wishing them a Merry Christmas and fully collapsing to the ground.
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This is his college girl moment.
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He had one too many, and by that we mean TARDIS regeneration energy.
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And then Rose exits the TARDIS and asks if he's okay.
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And Mickey's like, Uh, who's this?
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And Rose applies, It's the doctor, and everyone point at your screen because Jackie asks, What do you mean that's the doctor?
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Doctor Who?
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In that moment, Jackie Tyler is Jesse.
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I did put down like this is a really good episode for people who might just be discovering it.
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Because it does a lot of like, so this is how this works.
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Mm-hmm.
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It was helpful for me.
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It really does like reintroduce the show in a good way because it's the first time new viewers have seen the regeneration.
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I mean, since if if they saw the TV movie in the mid-90s, but also there was not a regeneration scene from the sixth to the seventh Doctor.
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So they've probably not seen one since the fifth to the sixth, like most viewers.
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It's crazy.
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So they do have to reintroduce things for a new audience since it's not happened in so long.
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But y'all, we get our credits, which are beautiful.
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David Tennant's name, shiny beautiful.
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But we're back in Jackie's apartment, and I love that she has just stolen a stethoscope from her neighbor's lodger and says they should take him to the hospital.
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But Rose is like, um, no, he's an alien.
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They'll dissect him.
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One vial of his blood will change the human race.
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And then she's got to listen to both his hearts.
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And Jackie can't believe he has two hearts.
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And I love that she's just eyeing him up and asks, does he have two of anything else?
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And then she just leaves him to take a little nap.
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That is iconic.
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Honestly.
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So many beautiful acting choices.
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Like, give this woman every Emmy Grammy, Oscar Antoni.
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What a woman.
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Jackie is Rose's mom.
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Yes.
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I did not know.
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I, and again, maybe they mention it a lot.
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It wasn't until the very end when she runs up and hugs, she's like, Mom.
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I was like, oh.
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No, she's so young.
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I did not.
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She is in series one quite a bit.
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And she slaps the doctor a lot.
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They have like a love-hate relationship, and that Jackie loves to smack him and argue.
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I might be getting ahead of us, but I'm gonna be honest with you.
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I have written down here, I thought maybe the prime minister was her mom at one point.
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Oh, just how chummy they were.
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I'll be honest.
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They did survive an alien invasion together, including like being just the whole time, two whole episodes as a two-parter.
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So let's see that by Larry Rhode Isn't Rose a Nepo baby.
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Literally, she's like, I saw her hug the prime minister.
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She's like, Oh, Rose.
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And I was like, Oh.
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So that so from the time that she hugged her to the time that her actual mom came up, I would thought that she was the prime minister's daughter.
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And that was context that I was missing.
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I don't think there was a lot of time in between those.
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Jokes on you, Jesse.
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So Rose and Jackie, because Rose's dad died when she was a baby.
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There's a whole episode you'd probably like about it.
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Um, they grew up in estate housing.
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So they're in government housing, they're very low income.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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And so I do like that as the doctor has passed out, he exhales some regeneration energy, which is the sparkly gold stuff from his lungs.
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And it just like, we follow it from the apartment all the way into space.
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I think that's a silly little detail, but it's Christmas.
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You gotta have something shiny.
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And then in the kitchen, Jackie's just asking, is this a different face or is it a different person?
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And Rose is kind of being rude to her mom and being like, How should I know?
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I thought I knew him, mom.
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I thought me and him were dot dot dot.
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And he now he does this.
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And then she just keeps forgetting the doctor's not human.
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And instead of talking about herself, she turns the questioning onto her mom and she's like, Mom, why do you have men's pajamas?
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And why do you have a robe?
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And we find out that Howard, the delivery guy, has been hanging out for like the past month or so, which is good for Jackie Tyler.
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Get it, girl.
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Those pajamas didn't even look that like man-coded.
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I remember being so confused.
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Like, why are you wearing this men's pajamas?
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Or no, it was because that's what he was wearing.
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Now I get it.
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Yeah.
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Again, I'm trying to understand the show my best.
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I'm reading my notes, be like, why was I confused here?
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We keep giving you really confusing episodes, though.
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I'm doing a really good job not Googling things because I want to learn them organically when we talk.
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We do love when you ask questions.
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What snack would you all put in your pajama pocket if you got hungry?
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Oh my gosh.
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I love snacks.
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Okay, I'm trying to remember what the brand is.
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It's not Pringles, it's not Lace Stacks, it's the really expensive one because of those chips, but the salt and vinegar ones, like the good crisps, I think they're called, or something.
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I love a salt and vinegar chip.
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They're so good.
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It sounds like that's above my budget.
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So I don't even know what that is.
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Well, here's the thing: flavored chips, all the flavoring is usually made from milk proteins, so I can't have those.
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So I found these other ones that are way too expensive, but I'm addicted to them now.
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I would because like first of my chocolate and my butt that's gonna melt in a pocket.
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So um I would go with something like either wildberry scales or because we're talking about Doctor Who, deli babies.
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Um, they have some at mire that I get, and I I'm always so happy when I'm eating them.
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They they taste great.
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Ooh, like a good sour one would be really good though.
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Or a nectarine, but I just like nectarines.
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I would have like the hot Cheetos in one pocket and then like dill pickles in the other pocket.
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Yes.
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Have you had the dill pickled flavored chips?
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They're delicious.
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You know what's amazing?
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I actually haven't, and I that just occurred to me right now because I was like, wait, pickles in the hot chips.
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I need to try those.
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Jesse, what snack would you keep in your pocket?
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Genuinely was trying to think.
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I think I'd probably just do like Cheez Its.
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I haven't had Cheez-Its in so long.
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Same, but that sounds delicious.
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I know.
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You need to get some Cheez-Its for your pocket.
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So, y'all, we get past the pajamas, and Rose hears the familiar voice of Harriet Jones on TV at a press conference, and Jackie explains she's the prime minister now, and it's Britain's golden age.
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Jackie loves to brag that Rose knows her, and we hear Harriet Jones defending the little space probe that's about to land on Mars.
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Little do they know, the probe runs into a little rock and it sucks it inside.
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Maybe it's a spaceship, who knows?
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And then we have to deal with Mickey, I guess, because Rose and Mickey are Christmas shopping, and he's complaining about Rose, talking about her little TARDIS adventures, and says she can rely on him.
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He's not gonna change his face.
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And this is when Rose, she like tries to voice her worries that the doctor could be dying.
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Genuine fear, but he's like, ugh, he gets even worse.
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Let's just be like, it's Christmas.
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Can you do that?
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Can you just for a bit, you and me and Christmas, no doctor, no monsters, no life or death.
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And Rose is just so worn down by this man, she agrees.
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Jesse for context, Mick, Mickey is like her sometimes boyfriend situationship, and he is kind of a titty baby.
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That makes sense.
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Again, the the three of them, I wasn't entirely understanding the connections.
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Again, the fact that I didn't even fully realize that was her mom.
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Yeah.
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She probably wasn't even calling her mom, I just was not clocking it.
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And to be fair, she was kind of rude to her mom in this episode.
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And that makes it even more harsh.
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She was so impatient with her about her.
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And I I know that she had a lot going on because the doctors just regenerated, but the fact That she was shopping for a Christmas present for her mom, like on Christmas.
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Just imagine being like, she he regenerated to get over it.
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Yeah.
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Like all the questions that she would ask about it.
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It's like, I don't know.
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Rose does agree to not talk about the doctor and that lasts all of two steps because guess what?
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She notices the weird Santa's playing music on the street.
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They're like, mm, then creepy looking.
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Are those instrument weapons, are they aiming these weapons at us?
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Looks like it.
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So they're being attacked by little Santa's in the street.
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And then luckily a Christmas tree falls down on it because then they're able to catch a little taxi cab home.
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And Jesse, um, you said you have experience with Christmas trees attacking you as well.
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Oh yeah.
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I remember my family Christmas tree.
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I was like the last one decorating it, and it literally fell on top of me while I was like in the family.
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And I think I was like on my knees, so I literally just fell back like this.
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How old were you?
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Like seven or eight.
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You were little.
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I don't even think I was fully, I just think fully was not comprehending what was happening because I'm just seeing it slowly come down.
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Like it didn't fall that fast, it fell slowly for whatever reason.
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And being like, this is a lot.
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And then they they always did like really extra.
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They like spray like the fake snow stuff on it.
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So they pulled it off me, and I'm like just covered in gunk.
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No, not fun.
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I can't believe you remember that.
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You mentioned it to me, and that's why I put you on this episode.
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I was gonna say, there's a connection there.
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This is the moment in the episode where I wrote down we need more Christmas horror.
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We really do.
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Once they have like the Santa's and everything, then like with the spinning tree later, I was like, uh, I love Christmas horror.
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Okay, so down the line in these Christmas specials, they do get pretty scary, especially with the 12th Doctor.
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Christmas is low-key a scary time.
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People are like out of their minds at their wits' end.
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It's cold and dark.
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Like there are creepy Santas with instruments that get attacked by Christmas trees that are falling.
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You and them have a lot in common.
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Also, Jackie Tyler, pretty soon.
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But y'all, as they're like Tokyo drifting home, she tries to call Jackie to warn her something's after them.
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But Jackie is a hot girl, she's a bad bitch.
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She needs her gossip, so she's on the other line with her friend, complaining about Rose coming home, making a mess.
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And when her friend asks, Hey, do you need some help or something?
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She's like, No, no, the place is a mess.
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And like, she's just casually taking care of the doctor in the background, being like, No, no, no.
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Still taking care of this man she hates, by the way.
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I think it's adorable.
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MVP of the episode.
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MVP of always.
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Yeah.
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But Rose tries to explain to Mickey that they're probably after the doctor because Rose and Mickey are like nothing to these aliens, but because they've like time traveled and been around the doctor, they're like, mm, they're following us.
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And so we cut back and forth through this and everything, but eventually.
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Eventually Rose and Mickey burst into the apartment and be like, gotta go.
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And Jackie's like, uh, no, it's Christmas Eve.
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And like, as Jackie's saying why they're not leaving, Rose notices a new Christmas tree behind Jackie and asks her where she got it.
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And Jackie's like, uh, I thought you sent it because it showed up at the door and you were shopping.
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And the Christmas tree just decides at that point to come to life.
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It's playing jingle bells, the branches are spinning and shooting ornaments at them.
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And then they run into the bathroom they run into the bedroom with the doctor, and Rose shouts for the doctor to wake up, and he just fully rifles through his pockets for the sonic screwdriver, and she puts it in the hand.
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Y'all, this is the best part.
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Mickey and Jackie are trying to push the door shut because the Christmas tree is trying to burst into the bedroom.
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And it comes through.
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We get the iconic Jackie Tyler line: I'm gonna get killed by a Christmas tree.
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I love her.
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Chelsea, have you seen?
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Um, there's this Doctor Who correspondent.
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Uh, I don't want to get their name wrong.
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I think it's like Chris Crystal D.
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Like they dressed up as the Christmas tree from that episode, and they're just like spinning around chasing people.
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Are they throwing ornaments at people?
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I hope so.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's like a thing.
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So, like, oh my gosh.
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That's amazing.
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Please send it to us.
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I will include it in the show notes.
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Okay, Jesse, do you think you could protect Jackie Tyler from a Christmas tree?
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I don't think I can protect anybody from anything, but I would sure try.
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I think you and Jackie would get along commenting on all the nonsense.
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When that tree like goes through the glass, that was enough for me.
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It's like hard pass.
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That's another moment where I was like, do they have to keep hanging out with the doctor?
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Like, I'm not trying to be like the villain of this story, but I was like, is it like an opt-out?
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Like, hey, like you're great.
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I was like, I don't think this life is for me.
00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:56.960
I mean, trouble does follow the doctor.
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It does.
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Yeah, and I would not follow.
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And they all kind of love it.
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They love the chaos.
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:03.759
Some people love the adrenaline.
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I don't.
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I was like, do they even get weekends?
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:09.519
No, because it's what is time?
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Yeah.
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It just blew Jesse's mind.
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Yeah.
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Like, I don't think I would be cut out to be a companion.
00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:19.279
Is so Rose is a companion?
00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:20.640
Rose is a companion.
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Mickey is technically not a companion yet.
00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:25.039
That was in my notes too.
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I was like, is Rose the only companion?
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And the others are just the extra.
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That's the moment.
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Yeah, they're like the recurring characters.
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But as like all this Christmas tree stuff happening, and like Rose did go through the doctor's pocket, I like that he's fully just passed out taking this little snoozy.
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And she puts the sonic in his hand like that's gonna do anything.
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What does do something though is Rose whispers eventually into his ear, help me.
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And then he just like shoots up suddenly like one of these dogs sleeping next to me and headbutting me.
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And much like a little sleeper agent, he just takes out the tree with the sonic.
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And then, you know, I do not recommend just suddenly waking up because you are gonna crash at some point.
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Because he does explain that, ooh, it's a remote control Christmas tree.
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I want one of those.
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And he ponders who's controlling it, and they all go outside where they spot the scary Santa's from Christmas shopping.
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The doctor points a sonic at them and they teleport away.
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And he identifies them as pilot fish before collapsing in pain.
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And remember, the doctor is still regenerating.
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He's still not done cooking.
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Everything in him is all mumble jambo.
00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:39.359
And he warns Rose that she woke him up too soon and he's bursting with energy and the pilot fish could smell it.
00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:43.920
He tells Jackie he's having something called a neural a neural implosion.
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:45.359
Look at me knowing words.
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:46.240
And guess what?
00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:48.559
This just means his brain's collapsing inside his head right now.
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:49.599
Whoopsies.
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:59.200
And he tries to tell Jackie what he needs, but she's listing everything in the medicine cabinet from aspirin, which allegedly might kill a time lord, to Pepto Bismol or a soup and sandwich.
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:01.440
Honestly, Jackie is so nice right now.
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:04.319
Honest, I would go to the BNB of Jackie Tyler.
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.519
And he tells her to shut up, which is honestly rude.
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:10.000
Jackie responds, well, he hasn't changed that much.
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:16.079
And then he just collapses and war warns Rose, if there are pilot fish, there's something bigger, and he passes out again.
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:17.119
Because guess what?
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:20.559
His brain is deflating, much like mine most of the time.
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:22.799
Are they all so mean to Jackie?
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:24.400
That is a great question.
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:29.920
Like that was I remember that moment being like where he was, she was like, it was like the funny thing.
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:32.000
She's like listing all these different things to offer him.
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:37.440
And again, he's being funny, but I was like, that was harsh, especially because like I know he's like the same person.
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.720
I really don't care how it works, but it still feels like it's his first time meeting her.
00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:41.599
Pretty much.
00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:54.880
A little politeness would go a long way because even though you have kidnapped her daughter many a times, taken her away, made Jackie think she was missing for a whole dang year because of the time travel mess up.
00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:55.759
Yeah.
00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.319
Jackie thought Rose was missing for a whole year because of the time travel mix-up.
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:00.880
It's crazy.
00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:02.480
It was like devastating.
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:03.440
Devastating.
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:09.039
Brittany Haynes will save it, don't worry.
00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:13.519
Everybody watch Big Brother reindeer games, which is the best reality show ever made.
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:14.880
If you can find it.
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:25.440
But yes, they do bring him back into the apartment for nap round two, and Mickey just hops on the internet to research pilot fish as Jackie turns on the TV and remarks, It's midnight, Christmas Day.
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:30.400
Rose comes in and tells her the doctor is getting worse because only one heart is beating.
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:40.559
And then on the little TV in the background, we hear the news about the space probe that went offline earlier, but this scientist guy Llewellyn, he's on TV and he's like, is just a little blip.
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:44.160
They'll be receiving their first transmission from the probe soon.
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:58.079
And because Mickey, he was like a hacker in the first series and managed to get codes to stuff, he's able to crack the pilot fish code and explains, yo, they swim alongside great big sharks.
00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:02.000
So we should expect a shark when the space probe images like come through.
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:02.799
And guess what?
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:04.000
Images come through.
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:06.640
It's a scary berry alien and they're attacking.
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:11.039
If I saw that on TV on Christmas, I'd be like turning everything off.
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:14.640
Am I the only one that thought they were low-key cute though?
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:16.799
Yes, Paige.
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:18.640
It's just me.
00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:27.200
Jesse, if you saw an alien in the wild, you just know you would have to take a picture of it like one of the New York City rats and send it to Paige before running away.
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:29.519
Yeah, I would want that.
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:31.519
Only for you, Paige.
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:32.640
Thank you.
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:35.599
So we cut to like all the unit stuff now.
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:47.359
We get the scientist guy, he's going from the broadcast, he's being escorted to the Tower of London to Unit, which is like I'm trying to translate for Jesse, like alien military almost?
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:49.440
Like they're aware of like the doctor and stuff.
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:53.680
The doctor worked for unit in the 70s back in the day.
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:56.079
He was their science consultant.
00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:02.160
And he's going to this little underground facility to meet Harriet Jones, Prime Minister, and her aide Alex.
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:04.640
He's hoping this is all a hoax, but it's genuine.
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.200
And she explains, it's a new species of alien.
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:11.599
And he's like, You're talking about aliens, like they're real, my girl.
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:18.000
And she's like, Yeah, there's an act of parliament banning my autobiography, because this ain't her first rodeo.
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:23.039
I would like to read that autobiography, so I'm gonna need both librarians to request it.
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:24.559
Thank you very much.
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:26.559
We're on it.
00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:27.200
You're on it.
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:32.799
I just say I don't recognize a lot of people in the episodes that I've seen as far as like actors from other things.
00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:41.920
And so then just randomly seeing the guy from Coyote Ugly and Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen, just like walking around with all these people as like the aide.
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:43.599
I was like, this is so weird.
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:44.960
Like, I was just like very much aware.
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:46.319
I was like, why is he like everybody else?
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:50.000
I'm like able to like be immersed in it as these new characters.
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:57.680
I'm so glad you cracked that code because I did not click on his little Wikipedia page or whatever, but I'm like, I know him from somewhere.
00:32:58.400 --> 00:32:59.279
Second I saw his face.
00:32:59.359 --> 00:32:59.759
It's weird.
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:08.079
The first thought I had was Confessions of Teenage Drama Queen because he looks more like he doesn't Coyote Ugly, and my sisters and I watched that VHS like it was our job.
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:14.640
Like here's the thing though, I remember everyone from Coyote Ugly except for the men, not including John Goodman.
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:17.039
Yeah, I was about to say our fellow Missouri State Bear.
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:21.039
The men just weren't as important in that movie.
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:31.279
No, the movie's actually better if we take uh him out of it, but I do have facial blindness in certain movies, especially ones like Coyote Ugly, which are actually gay if you think about it.
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:35.759
Because I wait, I usually wait till the episode's over to like look up what people are because I don't want to be spoiled by anything.
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:39.119
But he's the only I didn't recognize almost anybody else, just him.
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:42.400
Thank you for unlocking something for me.
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:56.240
So yeah, they're informed the transmission from the probe isn't from Mars, but from right above it on the surface, it's like, ooh, and whatever caught the probe, it's heading right for Earth and it's coming at him fast, y'all.
00:33:56.480 --> 00:34:05.039
So back at the apartment, Mickey has once again hacked back into the unit's website because he's a hacker, and they're able to monitor the new transmission to Earth.
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.559
And I will give Mickey credit, he remembered the passwords from series one.
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:12.159
I cannot remember my password that I changed last week.
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:13.840
I know.
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:15.199
Miracles.
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:26.639
And so normally, like, the TARDIS is able to translate stuff wherever Rose is on Earth, but she is unable to understand what this little alien is saying in the video.
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:32.559
And so she's like, oh no, the doctor's out of commission, so that means the translation isn't working.
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:34.800
And this does make me wonder.
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:42.239
We know the TARDIS is a little feisty because Jesse, the TARDIS is a living being of its own in many ways.
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:50.800
And I wonder if this TARDIS likes Rose or not, because we know TARDIS is temperamental and does pick favorites when it comes to helping.
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:53.119
She famously did not like Clara.
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:55.280
The TARDIS is a living being.
00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:55.760
Yep.
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:56.239
Yes.
00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.119
We cover this on the last one.
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:04.559
To be fair, we did not spend a lot of time in the TARDIS on the Bad Wolf episode.
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:08.480
I didn't even like I think I told you all this.
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:15.280
I had like I've seen things about the show, so I knew about the police box that I thought was a phone booth until we did the episode.
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:18.320
And I knew about this visual background all the time.
00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:28.000
Finding out that this is like a Mary Poppins bag of a like police box and that this is the inside of it was oh no, it's like um out of the box.
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:30.639
Yeah, yes, it is out of the box.
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:32.800
After watching out of the box being like, that's wild.
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:34.480
They crawl into these little boxes and they go down.
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:40.960
It's like the coolest little penthouse or something of a Mary Poppins is a time lord, her and Miss Frizzle.
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:42.079
That is true.
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:46.400
I did say that on my Julie Andrews Mixed Reviews episode, everyone.
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:51.599
But yes, you're learning so much, Jesse.
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:53.679
Um, gals, what do we think?
00:35:53.760 --> 00:36:01.679
Does the TARDIS like Rose right now, or do you think she's holding a grudge from Rose taking like absorbing the heart of the TARDIS and causing a little bit of mayhem?
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:06.400
I've never thought about it before, but I think you've you're right.
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:08.800
I think she might be holding a grudge.
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:11.119
I think so.
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:14.239
I would hold a grudge if you busted open and took my heart out.
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:16.000
Yeah, that was kind of rude.
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:21.280
Rose, you need to work on your politeness to the TARDIS and your mother.
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:22.320
Yes.
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:28.960
But then Major Blake of Unit informs Harriet Jones that the US president wants to take action, but she shuts that down.
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:32.480
I had to include that because I'm like, some things have never changed.
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:35.840
And then she does ask about the doctor, but they haven't heard from him.
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:36.800
Obviously.
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:37.920
We know that.
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:42.639
And then she asks about Torchwood, even though she's not supposed to know about Torchwood.
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:47.119
And then Alex the Age shows her the translation because he's a translator, I guess.
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:51.760
And the aliens are called Sycarax, and they demand Earth surrenders or they'll die.
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:57.599
And Harriet Jones refuses, though, and she tells them today is a day of peace and warns them, Earth is armed.
00:36:57.760 --> 00:36:58.719
Look out, buddy.
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:04.960
I personally would not threaten the aliens, especially when I know they got more than I got.
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:06.239
Yeah.
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:08.960
That's probably not the best idea in that scenario.
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:16.480
It's a little aggressive, but then I I mean the aliens are like, well, let's see what happens.
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:30.400
And next thing you know, a little blue energy takes over about one-third of the population of Earth, and all these people just be climbing to the tops of the buildings, the highest points they can find, which is, you know, mostly the roofs, and they're trying to figure out what's so special about all of these people.
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:34.559
It's like mothers and daughters, fathers and sons, blah, blah.
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:51.039
And then because certain members of the unit medical team are on the roof, they check their medical records, and they figure out that all these little mind-controlled people are apositive blood type, and the Sycrax, they got a hold of an apositive blood sample that Llewellyn put in the probe.
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:54.960
I would not put a vial of blood in a space probe.
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:56.239
Seems like a bad idea.
00:37:56.559 --> 00:37:58.000
You don't know what they're doing with it.
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:03.840
And not to brag, I would not be one of the one-third of humanity that would be up on a roof.
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:06.159
Humble brag, you have different blood.
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:08.000
I have different blood.
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:10.079
Also, this whole positive.
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:12.559
Me too! Special.
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:14.880
Isn't that a special one?
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:16.400
It's one of the pretty good ones.
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:25.119
ONEG is like the universal universal, but we can donate to everybody except for ONAG.
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:26.800
Do not double check my science.
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:28.000
I am not a doctor.
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:29.840
You just talk about one.
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:35.920
Also, this scene is like kind of horrifying.
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:40.480
That imagery of everyone just like going to the roof at once and almost jumping.
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:41.119
Yeah.
00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:45.519
This is a very grim episode for a Christmas day.
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:51.360
Then again, EastEnders on their Christmas Day special, they usually murder somebody, including last year.
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:55.679
So the Brits, I don't know what they're thinking about on Christmas, but I have questions.
00:38:56.000 --> 00:39:03.519
And then Rose and Mickey, they're outside observing all these mind-controlled people just randomly, and Rose is like, mm, doom and gloom.
00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:05.599
Nobody here is gonna save them.
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:06.800
We're on our own.
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:08.559
The doctor isn't gonna help.
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:10.320
I'm gonna be a little brat.
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:20.079
And next thing we know, Harriet Jones gives a little televised speech informing the public that the Queen's Christmas speech has been canceled and the royal family is standing on the roof.
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:24.079
I would not be exposing the royal family, like, well, that's a lie.
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:24.880
I might.
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:26.000
Depending on the members.
00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:37.679
Like, oh yeah, I forget they're like, like, it looks kind of silly to me.
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:39.440
But I guess that's a big thing to them.
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:42.880
And then yeah, her being like, oh, yep, they're just on the roof in case you guys are looking for them.
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:53.599
And then next thing we know, after like putting the royal family on blast like that, she begs for the doctor to help, and then we just cut back to the inside of the apartment.
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:57.440
Rose is fully breaking down and says, the doctor is gone, he left her.
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:03.280
And next thing you know, like a shockwave hits the earth, glass be exploding everywhere, and guess what?
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:06.639
That Sycorax ship is entering the atmosphere.
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:11.599
Again, I would not threaten aliens whenever I know what they can do.
00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:17.519
If they can go from Mars really fast, I'd be like holding my tongue, just a smidge.
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:19.519
I'd be planning ahead a little bit more.
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:20.719
Can I ask a question?
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:23.760
I recognize that I'm talking a lot and being very man-like, and I apologize.
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:24.800
No, it's a podcast.
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:25.760
You're supposed to talk.
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:30.159
Watching the scene where she's like talking into the camera, like save us Doctor Who.
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:32.400
I was like, is he like the Superman of this universe?
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:35.599
Is this like a thing where the government's like, We need we need Doctor Who here now?
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:36.400
Pretty much.
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:44.400
I was like not for some reason I had it in my head that it was like a very like secret, like, oh, nobody really knows what's going on.
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:45.599
How do they hide this?
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:47.920
And they're all like, um, we need you here now.
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:51.039
There's like an alien attacking the attacking the city.
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:52.480
That's the thing though.
00:40:52.639 --> 00:41:01.519
Like, the show does deal with that later, especially the spinoff show of like, can you just keep relying on the doctor to save Earth?
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:07.519
And it's like, he's not even from Earth, even though that's so Earth-like to be like, yeah, but we're the best planet, so yeah.
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:09.760
Like you should really focus on us.
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:10.800
That's so true.
00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:11.840
It is so true.
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:19.119
Also, this is gonna make me sound like more of a villain, but I was like, I in my head, when they're like one third, like we have one third of your people.
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:22.880
Um, we're gonna make them jump off here unless you give us half your people.
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:24.639
I was like, hmm.
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:26.639
Like I was trying to do the math in my head.
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:28.880
I was like, what's like the choice there that makes sense?
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:30.000
That's true.
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:32.639
If if you could just take off our people, just take off our people.
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:34.079
Like, I don't know.
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:41.920
Here's the thing the the half will live, but they'll be sold into slavery, so yeah, that's a crazy choice to make.
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:46.800
But I was also like, I was like, if you can just take them, then why do we have to if you have the power to do this?
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:49.039
I was like, why are we even compromising with you?
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:51.360
Those are the things I was getting confused on.
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:56.639
That's a that's a good point, is that they were already in control of all those people.
00:41:56.719 --> 00:41:58.880
Like, why are they giving her a choice?
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:00.639
I didn't consider that.
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:01.920
I asked the questions.
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:03.920
We don't know a lot to ask the questions.
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:16.639
Well, I later on episode, like David Tenant mentions like leg control, and like kind of like it was kind of like a cheap trick or something like that.
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:30.480
So I don't know, maybe they're not as strong, and maybe they were like bluffing, maybe I feel like by the end of it that makes sense of like the like obviously like they were able to take them down, so it's like okay, like they were like you said, bluffing.
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:35.039
Yeah, but yeah, that's why from the beginning I was like I was like, maybe we should just try it and see what they do.
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:36.400
But yeah, do it, take us.
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:37.199
That would definitely be.
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:38.800
That's why I'm not a leader.
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:40.000
I don't know, Jesse.
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:42.079
You might have been a good leader in this instance.
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:43.440
But do it.
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:46.079
Do it, just have my people.
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:56.960
As we have this conundrum, but no, Rose tells Jackie to gather food and supplies and asks Mickey to help her move the doctor to inside the TARDIS, which is like one of the only safe places on earth.
00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:58.800
Nobody can really get inside there.
00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:00.480
Well, not too many, we'll say.
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:05.119
And then Jackie packs the Christmas dinner, including a flask of tea that might be important.
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:20.079
And like, as they're like trying to get the doctor into the TARDIS, we cut back to, I guess, our politicians and military, and the Sycorax teleports Harriet Jones, Alex the Aide, Major Blake, and Llewellyn, the scientist, to meet the leader.
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:24.000
Llewellyn, like, he like tries to fall on his sword.
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:25.840
He's like, I created this problem.
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:28.320
Let me see if I can reason with him and fix it.
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:30.960
He's like, Oh, have some compassion.
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:34.960
And the Sycorax guy's like, uh, no, I'm gonna kill you.
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:38.079
I'm gonna kill this major guy who talked back to me.
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:44.719
And then Harriet Jones finally thinking before she speaks, she's like, What happens when they surrender?
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:54.559
And then the leader, he does just put his little hand, his little alien hand over this bright shiny button, which I might want to press just for fun.
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:59.760
And he says, Half the world will be sold into slavery, or a third will die.
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:01.280
Her choice.
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:06.000
Again, I'm too pretty for math, so I'm gonna let somebody else decide that one.
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:11.679
I also kept him asking the whole time, like America being like, you guys better figure this out before our Christmas starts.
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:12.320
Right.
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:14.960
Don't interrupt our.
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:20.639
Like, we don't play about Christmas here, so you guys need to get it together.
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:30.960
So back on Earth, they get the doctor into the TARDIS, and Jackie starts pouring a cup of tea for them because she's a considerate mother, but then she has to run out for more supplies because she made a whole Christmas dinner.
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:32.639
It is not going to waste.
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:40.880
And Mickey does what honestly I probably would do and starts pressing buttons on the console just to see what would happen, to see if I can turn a TV on.
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:43.599
And then they end up, you know what, the Sycorax?
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:46.639
They pick up the signal of the TARDIS because he hit the wrong button.
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:48.559
And they're like, hmm, what's that?
00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:50.719
Let's teleport the TARDIS on board.
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:58.239
And they leave Jackie on Earth, which, like, probably best for the Sycorax to not face off against Jackie Tyler because they will lose.
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:04.000
Jackie Tyler is the most fearsome girl in the galaxy.
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:11.360
But Rose is still being a little bratty, doom and gloom when she notices Jackie is missing and Mickey laments being stuck with her cooking.
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:19.039
Rose runs out of the TARDIS to find her mom, not realizing she's on the alien ship, and is immediately captured by the aliens.
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:24.880
Mickey drops the flask of tea when he runs after her to save her and spills it right onto the base of the console.
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:29.760
And the doctor breathes in the fumes because it's steaming upwards, right into his little nosy.
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:38.719
And this is the best part because outside with the aliens, Rose is just lip-syncing for her life, listing off every alien she's ever encountered.
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:40.800
That part is so funny.
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:41.760
It is.
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:45.679
It's like a child telling a lie in real time.
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:52.960
But the Sycoracs, they do laugh in her face because they're like, mmm, okay, child, you're not making any sense.
00:45:53.199 --> 00:46:03.760
And they start to taunt her and Alex the Eight, he starts translating all of their threats, but then she slowly starts hearing them in English, and she realizes the TARDIS translator is working again.
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:08.320
And I love that the Sycoracks get so mad when they're like, You're talking in English.
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:09.760
And he's like, No.
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:13.599
Jesse, do you know about this, the TARDIS translator?
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:19.679
Um, I gathered eventually that they were able to do that.
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:21.760
I was questioning.
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:25.039
Because they also like the prime ministry team had their own translator, right?
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:29.760
Yeah, there was like a guy translating in real time, the guy from Coyote Ugly.
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:34.719
Yes, Coyote Ugly guy was translating it, and they were like real I don't know.
00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:37.840
That part I found kind of interesting, and then they get the TARDIS like, oh, we have our own.
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:41.760
I was like, I guess this technology is just like there's like there's a lot of things they can use this for.
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:43.679
The TARDIS is pretty great like that.
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:45.039
It does like everything.
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:50.000
It's before or after the Prime Minister lady comes in and shows like the aliens for badge.
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:53.039
I don't know why I love that moment.
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:54.960
She is very funny.
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:01.119
But then the camera does track to the TARDIS as Rose realizes what's going on.
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:03.119
And on cue, the doctor opens the door.
00:47:03.199 --> 00:47:05.760
He's just smiling and he's like, Did you miss me?
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:08.960
And he like easily disarms that Sycorax.
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:14.239
He like grabs that little, I don't know, laser catwoman whip thing.
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:15.760
He breaks the gun in half.
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:17.039
And then he just points at him.
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:19.679
He's like, wait here, I'm busy.
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:25.119
And then he just tells Rose all he needed was a good cup of tea before asking how he looks.
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:30.239
And he's concerned when she's like different, because he's like, good different, bad different.
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:31.519
And she's like, just different.
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:35.199
And then he's like, Am I ginger?
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:36.000
Ginger.
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:37.840
The most important question.
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:40.079
And Paige, he's still jealous of you.
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:44.159
He's so disappointed when she's like, You're sort of brown up there.
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:47.519
And then he just calls her out for giving up on him.
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:49.920
And then he's like, Wait, I'm being rude.
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:51.280
Am I a rude man now?
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:52.960
Because he doesn't know who he is.
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:55.760
The doctor wants to be ginger so bad.
00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:56.800
So bad.
00:47:57.039 --> 00:47:58.320
Still trying.
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:00.639
But the doctor wants to be what?
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:01.679
A ginger.
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:02.719
Ginger hair.
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:03.840
He's never had it.
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:04.719
Oh, okay.
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:06.480
That's what that's what I thought you were saying.
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:06.880
Yeah.
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:08.159
So just clarifying.
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:12.000
He actually wants to be as told by ginger as well.
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:15.039
I was like, it sounds like he keeps saying he wants to be ginger.
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:17.119
I was like, I have to figure out what they're actually saying.
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:18.000
Got it.
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:19.840
He's like, ooh, am I rude?
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:27.760
Jesse, this is the part where like when the doctor regenerates, not only does he get like a new body and face and stuff, he also gets a new personality.
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:29.760
And that's the fun part.
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:34.239
So the doctor gets to figure out who they are after they regenerate.
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:45.519
And so the Sycorax demands to know who he is, and he starts just strolling around on this shit, pondering who he is, and then he spots the big button and he clocks the blood control under the big button.
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:47.199
And he's like, I'm gonna press the big button.
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:54.000
And instead of killing everybody, it deactivates the little mind control and explains, you can't mind control people to death.
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:55.760
It's just like a cheap hypnosis trick.
00:48:55.840 --> 00:49:03.679
And then for some reason he starts to quote the Lion King, which did make me giggle because I completely forgot about this part.
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:10.159
And then he tells him to leave the humans alone or and he challenges them to a duel for the planet.
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:13.519
And this is the part, Jesse, where I'm like, damn.
00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:23.039
This is the part like on Big Brother, where I'm like, I cannot tell this to other people because the doctor is about to sword fight aliens outside on Christmas.
00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:25.840
Why not?
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:28.559
Once again, I think I said this last time.
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:35.440
Something about the aliens in this show are giving like villains from Power Rangers, like Mighty Morphin Power Rangers.
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:37.760
Like every time I see that, that's exactly what I think.
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:41.760
Like if I just saw it out of context, like, oh yeah, this is an episode of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers.
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:45.360
Here's the thing, it's not not that, especially right now.
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:46.079
Yeah.
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:48.800
They sword fight their way outside.
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:51.840
You know, Katrina, go, because I'm still laughing.
00:49:52.079 --> 00:50:03.360
Oh no, I was gonna say, like, but you know, the doctor doesn't do like this big uh sequence before he like attacks, like the Power Ranges and Silar Moon.
00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:09.519
It's like they'll be doing their transformation, and like the villains are just patiently waiting for them.
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:13.360
Yeah, but the doctor, he just they just go at it.
00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:17.039
Part of me now wants the doctor to have a full sequence.
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:23.199
Although we do have the time vortex little interstitials when it time travels sometimes, so that's really nice.
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:30.000
Someone did make one with the 11th doctor doing a sailor moon transformation.
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:31.599
I love that.
00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:38.239
Like it was like uh pictures, like just showing the different panels of like what that would look like.
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:39.360
That's really cool.
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:42.159
I love that imagery.
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:45.679
Jesse, we will get you hooked on this silly ass show.
00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:47.360
We're getting there.
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:59.440
So, y'all, they sword fright their way outside, and eventually the bad guy alien Power Ranger villain, he does cut the doctor's hand off.
00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:05.679
And not only does the sword fall to earth, but so does his hand, because they're up still in the sky.
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:10.000
Don't worry, that hand becomes important in a few seasons.
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:12.480
And it seemed important now.
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:16.239
I mean, you always need your hand, but guess what?
00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:22.400
This alien thinks the doctor's gonna surrender, but the doctor is still regenerating and he's able to grow a new one on the spot.
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:30.239
Like my nephew's little lizard thing can grow a new tail, which is honestly kind of scary, and I don't like watching that.
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:33.760
You sent us the gif of the hand growing earlier.
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:35.679
The reason is actually extra.
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:38.880
I didn't tell you the context of why it was also extra funny.
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:45.840
Because what I was taught telling you, like I might have more questions whenever I uh whenever we come into this.
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:48.000
Or like I apologize in advance for all my dumb questions.
00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:50.000
I'm intentionally not googling things.
00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:58.079
Um and then you both say thanks, and then Chelse says, You can hand wave away a lot of the science to keep things rolling.
00:51:58.239 --> 00:51:59.840
And it was literally Chelsea.
00:51:59.920 --> 00:52:05.599
That was I'm literally holding my phone like this when you text that while the doctor goes and grows a hand.
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:09.519
That's that's why the second you said that I like quickly pulled up the game.
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:11.679
I was like, I need to find a gift of this and sent it back to you.
00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:13.280
And I was like, hand wave indeed.
00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:14.880
That's beautiful timing.
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:17.599
I did drop my phone when you sent that back.
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:18.960
I didn't even think about it.
00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:20.480
The stars aligned.
00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:25.440
I was like, because again, it was funnier for me because it was literally on the screen happening as you sent that.
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:29.199
And I was like, I'm glad she warned me, because yeah, I'm not gonna question it.
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:30.480
He's still regenerating.
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:31.679
Like, let's keep going.
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:33.840
It's so funny.
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:35.920
I love this silly show.
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:37.519
And so, guess what?
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:38.800
He's got a new hand.
00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:41.679
This alien, he's a little scared about this one.
00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:53.199
And Rose does throw him a new sword, which I don't know if that is against the rules of the duel that she's interfering by giving him another weapon, but they don't seem to catch it, even though they warned her earlier.
00:52:53.440 --> 00:53:03.519
And he does pen the leader eventually, like, and instead of killing him, because the doctor doesn't like to kill anybody anymore, he commands him to leave the planet and never return.
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:05.119
And the alien does agree.
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:11.599
And as he celebrates his little victory, the doctor he finds a little satsuma in the pocket of Howard's robe.
00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:13.679
I would be really excited after that.
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:15.679
You would need a little bit of vitamin C.
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:16.480
But guess what?
00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:19.039
That Sycorax is a little bitch and he's a liar.
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:25.280
And he tries to sneak up on the doctor and attack him from behind, but the doctor he can hear what's happening.
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:34.079
And he throws that little satsuma at some button that just happens to be somewhere outside, and it opens a section of the ship and sends the leader to his death.
00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:39.679
And the doctor declares that no second chances, anything.
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:41.039
I'm a new man now.
00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:41.760
Yikes.
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:44.559
That part is pretty brutal, honestly.
00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:51.119
It is because this is our happy-go-lucky doctor, but then immediately we get that darker side.
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:58.639
And you gotta be a little afraid when that pops out because I don't know, he's a little unhinged sometimes.
00:53:59.039 --> 00:54:03.840
That's when you're kind that's when you're kind of like, okay, what is this new doctor gonna be about?
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:05.599
Like if you hadn't seen it before.
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:06.320
Mm-hmm.
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:12.159
So back on the ground, they're celebrating, and the doctor explains to Harriet Jones she better get used to aliens.
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:14.239
And then she gets a call from Torchwood.
00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:19.199
She walks away, the doctor and Rose and Jackie and Mickey, they're all like, Hey, what's up?
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:21.039
Merry Christmas, giggling away.
00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:25.519
And off to the side, Harriet Jones orders Torchwood to fire.
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:32.159
And the doctor, Rose, Jackie, and Mickey, they just watch in horror as green beams shoot from London all over the place.
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:37.519
It's like a bunch of them, too, and they combine and they destroy the retreating ship in space.
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:44.639
And the doctor is furious, and Harriet Jones tries to justify it as defense since she saw people murdered while he was sleeping.
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:49.599
And he says he gave the monsters the wrong warning and that the humans are the real monsters.
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:58.079
He threatens to bring her down with six words, and he whispers them to Alex the aide, his little ear, and it's like, Don't you think she looks tired?
00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:03.360
And they walk away as she frantically asks Alex what he said, but Alex doesn't know.
00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:04.719
So yes.
00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:07.280
This doctor is a little vengeful.
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:13.760
I was thinking, because again, the other episode I watched, who were the villains in that one?
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:15.199
Oh, the Daleks.
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:16.320
Yes.
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:17.280
The R2Ds.
00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:19.840
Again.
00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:24.880
Because I was trying to understand if they were like a species or like a group.
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:28.639
Because like whenever he's like, they all the Daleks were ever need to die.
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:30.000
I was like, whoa.
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:33.199
I was like, maybe there's like some little kid ones.
00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:36.000
And then you explained to me that that was not the case.
00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:40.239
No, the Daleks are just like Nazis, like genetically engineered Nazis.
00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:42.880
The Syrahs, they just did a whoopsie.
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:44.960
But now I'm just thinking of little Daleks.
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:46.639
Yeah, so see, that's funny.
00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:50.000
And then watching this one, I'm like, oh, now it feels like the opposite.
00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:50.480
Yeah.
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:54.880
I had to remember the context you gave me for last time.
00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:56.239
Because now he's like, whoa.
00:55:56.880 --> 00:55:58.239
We can't just go around killing people.
00:55:58.719 --> 00:55:59.440
Exactly.
00:55:59.920 --> 00:56:00.159
Yeah.
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:04.880
The Daleks just happened to be the number one enemy, number number one.
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:08.000
Like, nothing redeeming about them ever.
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:22.960
And so after all that, the warning, the Harriet Jones of it all getting threatened, we cut to the doctor in his TARDIS, and he's like picking out his new outfit and wardrobe while Jackie Rose and Mickey are getting Christmas dinner ready in the flat.
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:27.360
And I do like seeing all the little Easter eggs of the old costumes of the doctors.
00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:36.400
So you have like the fourth doctor's scarf, the second doctor's like fun trousers and his coat, and then the sixth doctor's little Hawaiian shirt waistcoat.
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:37.440
It's so cute.
00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:45.760
And so he picks a very sensible brown pinstripe suit and a long brown coat and sand shoes before heading to the Tyler family dinner.
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:48.719
Did he not have the yellow Converse yet?
00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:51.039
Oh, the sand shoes are the Converse, yeah.
00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:53.039
Oh, I didn't know what that word was.
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:55.599
That's what they call them over there.
00:56:55.920 --> 00:57:02.400
In the um Yeah, they call the sand shoes in the uh anniversary special, the 50th anniversary special.
00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:03.599
Oh, okay.
00:57:03.840 --> 00:57:04.159
Yeah.
00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:06.159
We just call it the brand.
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:07.280
Yes.
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:09.679
The Converse.
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:10.639
Yes.
00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:14.880
So he picks out his little outfit and he heads to the Tyler family dinner.
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:24.320
And at dinner, they spot Harriet Jones on the TV trying to dispel rumors of her health and a pending vote of no confidence when Jackie gets a call that it's snowing.
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:31.039
And they go outside and the doctor explains it's Ash from the Sycorax ship, not snow, which is really grim.
00:57:31.360 --> 00:57:32.639
That's what you think about it.
00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:35.360
It's supposed to be a cute moment, but I'm like, mmm.
00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:37.840
And Rose asks what he's going to do next.
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:40.719
And he's like, I guess back in the TARDIS, same old life.
00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:42.719
And she asks if he's going to be on his own.
00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:44.559
And he's like, Don't you want to come?
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:46.880
And this is the cute little stumbling over.
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:51.679
It's like, yes, but I you changed, and I didn't know if you'd still want me there.
00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:53.360
And he's like, Oh, I want you there.
00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:54.239
Don't worry.
00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:59.519
And then Mickey pops up like a little titty baby in the background saying, You're never gonna stay, are you?
00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:03.280
And Jackie says, You're mad and go looking for trouble.
00:58:03.519 --> 00:58:04.800
She's not wrong.
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:13.360
I do like that these answers are very much in character because Mickey is always gonna be jealous of the Doctor and Rose and insult him.
00:58:13.519 --> 00:58:15.920
And Jackie's just like, Y'all are crazy.
00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:19.280
You love being a mess, you love going looking for adventure.
00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:20.559
Not me, girl.
00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:21.199
No.
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:26.239
And then the episode closes on him pointing at the stars to where they're gonna go next.
00:58:26.559 --> 00:58:27.519
The end.
00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:35.679
That's truly like that last little exchange is like the beginning of what becomes the series two rom-com of it all.
00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:36.320
Mm-hmm.
00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:39.840
So, y'all, what do you think of this silly billy episode?
00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:43.679
Jesse, you are such a trooper putting up with our silly billiness.
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:44.559
Yes.
00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:47.199
Thank you for putting up with my questions.
00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:52.880
Again, I recognize I could Google some of these things, but it's more fun to ask them organically.
00:58:53.280 --> 00:58:54.639
This is our Sudoku's.
00:58:54.719 --> 00:59:00.639
We're trying to remember things and explain a very silly show that changes its own history all the time.
00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:01.599
All the time.
00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:03.599
This was a good one in my opinion.
00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:08.320
Again, I haven't seen the rest of it, but it felt like a good one for somebody who's new to it.
00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:12.960
Because it feels like it's very much like, I don't know, built for a new audience to jump in.
00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:13.519
Yeah.
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:16.159
I I think this show does a good job of doing it.
00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:30.719
Whenever it's a new doctor, they make it so they have stuff for the older fans who know a lot of things, but then they explain things where someone who's watching it for the first time can just get into it.
00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:31.920
Yeah.
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Because again, this is like 16 years since the show had last regularly aired, not including the 90s TV movie that was on Fox over here.
00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:50.239
And so that's a big generational gap between people who grew up with Doctor Who and who didn't.
00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:57.760
So, like, I think it's fun whenever you get to the doctors who portrayed the Doctor who were just too young at the time and did not grow up at the show.
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:00.960
The Matt Smiths and the Jody Whitakers of the world were like, mm-mm.
01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:02.079
Didn't have it.
01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:04.880
Not familiar, but we do we know a little bit now.
01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:10.000
But y'all don't worry.
01:00:10.159 --> 01:00:13.760
We have some deranged listener questions from Marilee.
01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:20.000
Um, we will let's get into some easy ones.
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:24.960
The Doctor Who Christmas specials feature a lot of great British Christmas traditions.
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:31.679
What American Christmas traditions do you think would be fun for them to include if and when they make more?
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:35.119
Rest in peace to the Christmas special we never get this year.
01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:35.840
I know.
01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:37.920
Still depressed forever.
01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:43.920
I will say, I think we need more American things if we're gonna have it.
01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:50.000
Like just challenging the capitalism of American Christmas and what it's about.
01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:52.639
I think that would be a very fun one to get into.
01:00:52.800 --> 01:01:04.719
And you could make it that like saccharin Christmas story of it being actually about community and taking care of one another instead of like presents and Christmas lights and stuff.
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:06.960
Maybe something about that.
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:08.400
And like cookies.
01:01:08.559 --> 01:01:10.079
Gotta get cookies in there somehow.
01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:18.000
I that was gonna be my answer, is because that's one of my favorite Christmas traditions, is like decorating sugar cookies with my family.
01:01:18.239 --> 01:01:21.440
And I could see that being chaotic with that group of people.
01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:25.920
Make it like a great British bake-off episode.
01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:29.599
But if you're gonna make it American, get Casey Wilson hosting.
01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:30.159
She's great.
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:32.000
She would be great in Doctor Who, though.
01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:33.199
She would be.
01:01:33.519 --> 01:01:36.400
If we're gonna have Americans, get the funny ones.
01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:41.280
Katrina, do you have any Christmas traditions you would like to see in Doctor Who?
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:52.400
Um probably maybe just like the certain I don't I don't know if they do it because I want to say something and it's like, oh, but they actually do it in the UK.
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:53.519
Like, I don't know.
01:01:53.760 --> 01:01:56.480
But I know Don't worry, they'll at me, not you.
01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:03.840
I know at least like Michael, we watch a lot of like Christmas movies like Elf.
01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:07.519
Um, Home Alone, yeah.
01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:10.559
Yeah, yeah, like those movies and stuff.
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:12.960
What's everybody's go-to Christmas movie?
01:02:13.119 --> 01:02:15.679
Family Stone, I'm trying to think of some.
01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:21.360
Um, The Holiday, which you know that one should cross borders and oceans.
01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:23.840
The Gossip Girl Christmas episodes.
01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:26.800
Yes, ooh, the community Christmas episodes.
01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:28.719
Yes, those are my favorites.
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:30.320
I think we watch more TV.
01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:32.400
Yes.
01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:33.840
What are regionals?
01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:35.599
These are regionals.
01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:43.360
So what we're saying is Taryn Killam can cross over into Doctor Who for a musical episode.
01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:47.440
And the Muppet's from the Christmas Carol.
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:48.239
Oh my gosh.
01:02:48.480 --> 01:02:51.599
Yes, that's another good one that I always watch.
01:02:51.840 --> 01:02:53.199
That's my favorite.
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:54.159
Yes.
01:02:55.119 --> 01:02:57.519
Okay, here's another fun one from Marile.
01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:01.039
Oh no! Aliens are invading on Christmas morning.
01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:04.800
What Christmas ornament in your own home could you use to defend yourself?
01:03:05.119 --> 01:03:10.880
Jesse, what Christmas ornament in your BB would you use to defend yourself?
01:03:11.199 --> 01:03:15.280
I was like, and I was like, I don't have any Christmas decorations in my home.
01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:19.199
You can think of soap opera decorations like the Laura Wright prayer camera.
01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:21.760
I'm trying to think of what my parents have at our house.
01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:23.679
I'm like, I feel like such a villain.
01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:26.480
I was like, I would go for the cheap stuff that we made when we were like in kindergarten.
01:03:26.559 --> 01:03:27.280
Like, we don't need this.
01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:30.159
Would you push the tree on them to get revenge?
01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:31.440
Probably.
01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:33.440
We have they have real trees too.
01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:35.440
I've always been a fan of fake trees.
01:03:35.920 --> 01:03:36.400
Same.
01:03:36.559 --> 01:03:37.199
Less bugs.
01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:40.159
I was like, here, take this real tree and just throw it at them.
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:48.559
We have an ornament on our family tree that's like a snowflake-shaped um photo thing.
01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:55.440
And it's a picture of me as a kid with Santa, and I look so depressed and like scared of Santa.
01:03:55.840 --> 01:03:57.519
And it makes me laugh every time.
01:03:57.679 --> 01:04:00.079
But I think the snowflake is like kind of sharp.
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:00.800
There you go.
01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:03.760
So will you take a photo of it and send it to us at Christmas?
01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:04.320
Please.
01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:04.800
Yes.
01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:07.119
I may actually have a photo somewhere.
01:04:07.519 --> 01:04:13.840
So I have a TARDIS ornament that's really hard that I could like throw at their head.
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:15.840
Throw the TARDIS.
01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:18.320
It's indestructible.
01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:29.039
I would, so I don't have a lot of Christmas decorations, but I do have my tiny peanuts Christmas tree, the one that's just like the sad Charlie Brown one.
01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:31.679
I was gonna guess something Snoopy related.
01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:39.119
So I have one of those, and then I have the I keep it inside, but it's one of those Snoopy lawn ornaments that lights up.
01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:47.840
So I feel like I would just have to like attack with those things, or maybe like the silly Christmas ornament from my friend's podcast.
01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:48.800
It's really heavy.
01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:51.280
It's like a pewter snowflake thing.
01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:54.880
I could throw it at them, and then I would just hit them with the peanuts tree.
01:04:55.119 --> 01:04:58.000
Try to figure out how to shock them with this Snoopy light up thing.
01:04:58.079 --> 01:04:58.480
I don't know.
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That's all I got though.
01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:02.079
I do have four dogs, so I think I'd be okay.
01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:04.639
What does Snoopy's dog house if not a TARDIS?
01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:07.360
So true.
01:05:07.599 --> 01:05:08.639
Oh my god.
01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:11.360
Jesse just blew my mind.
01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:14.960
How did I not think of that?
01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:17.440
Snoopy is a time lord.
01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:20.480
Holy holy cannoli.
01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:26.320
And then Marilee did send a pretty um serious question.
01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:29.679
So we'll do that one next before we get to the silliest of them all.
01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:41.519
It's been a long time since this particular special aired, and a lot of things have and haven't changed in the world of politics since then, including leaders of our country sundowning on stage or having seizures on camera.
01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:48.639
Wouldn't she look tired still work if Harriet Jones was a man back then, or was it always just rampant misogyny?
01:05:49.119 --> 01:05:50.880
We all know it's just rampant misogyny.
01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:53.760
That's the thing Russell would always that's the problem.
01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:59.119
Russell does have a tendency towards misogyny in this era.
01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:06.400
And And I'm glad Marilee points it out because again, if it was a man, no, nothing would happen.
01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:09.679
We saw what George Bush looked like 20 some odd years ago.
01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:11.360
He was looking rough by the end.
01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:12.320
Jesse would know.
01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:14.960
Jesse has tracked George Bush's appearance.
01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:22.559
I will say, especially this week, that question, I'm like, I feel like the bar's very low.
01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:23.440
Yeah.
01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:29.280
And I had the same thought when I saw that scene of like, again, I don't know who I'm supposed to root for.
01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:31.519
Maybe the prime minister is like really evil.
01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:34.320
But I felt we kind of feel bad for her at the end.
01:06:34.639 --> 01:06:37.199
Specifically with how they weaponized that against her.
01:06:37.519 --> 01:06:38.079
Exactly.
01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:44.400
Because I do think she does bring up a good question that Gwen in Torchwood, Children of Earth, brings up.
01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:48.719
It's like, what are you supposed to do to defend yourself whenever the doctor is not there?
01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:53.199
We can't just rely on the doctor all the time to solve our problems.
01:06:53.519 --> 01:07:04.559
And sadly, war is what humans know how to do because that's in the case of the aliens, they're usually bringing war and genocides upon Earth.
01:07:04.719 --> 01:07:05.679
So I don't know.
01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:16.079
And then that idea is also brought up a little bit more in the spin-off, the war between the land and the sea, which will allegedly be on Disney Plus sometime in the next year.
01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:17.599
It's not allegedly.
01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:18.400
Is it?
01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:19.760
It's not very good.
01:07:20.320 --> 01:07:21.360
We'll see.
01:07:22.239 --> 01:07:28.880
Allegedly, allegedly, maybe January allegedly, according to a gossip Doctor Who account.
01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:31.519
So probably not.
01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:36.639
And then this is my favorite question that I'm taking so seriously.
01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:40.639
What beverage could wake you up from a post-regeneration nap?
01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:44.400
What would wake you up?
01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:49.519
When I first saw that scene where they're like trying to wake him up, and then she just I'm like, okay, was he just playing with them?
01:07:49.599 --> 01:07:51.119
Because this is not the time.
01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:53.199
When he just jumps up.
01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:54.400
And I was like, okay.
01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:55.599
I would have been super annoyed.
01:07:55.679 --> 01:07:56.480
I would have kept bringing that up.
01:07:56.559 --> 01:07:57.920
I'm like, so were you just playing with us back there?
01:07:58.079 --> 01:07:59.199
Like he's playing dead.
01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:04.639
I will say the 13th Doctor does explain it the best to the future companions.
01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:10.400
It's like, no, all of my cells just burned up and are basically recreating themselves.
01:08:10.480 --> 01:08:11.760
That's the regeneration.
01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:20.640
So your body is basically on fire as it's like burning the old one and creating a new one, and you're supposed to just be sleeping through it.
01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:22.079
The time lord does.
01:08:22.159 --> 01:08:24.399
That's why he's taking his little nappy nappy.
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:30.560
Um, thing is, 13th Doctor only got like a power nap, and she was still fizzing and just forgetting everything.
01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:32.159
She had stuff to do.
01:08:32.399 --> 01:08:34.319
She had so much stuff to do.
01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:38.000
But yeah, I hmm.
01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:43.039
I'm like trying to think what beverage could wake you up from post-regeneration nap?
01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:44.640
I have a couple answers.
01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:47.920
Go for it, Paige, because I feel like it'd be a couple beverages for us.
01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:48.720
Oh yeah.
01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:51.600
I always have several bever beverages.
01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:56.479
Um, one would be like a strong cup of Earl Grey tea.
01:08:56.720 --> 01:08:58.000
Because I love that.
01:08:58.239 --> 01:08:58.880
Yeah.
01:08:59.279 --> 01:09:07.439
Also, if I'm choosing like a little cocktail drink, I'd choose an espresso martini because I think that'd wake me up.
01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:08.960
Oh, a diet coke.
01:09:09.039 --> 01:09:09.920
That was my third one.
01:09:10.159 --> 01:09:12.159
Would it be the McDonald's Diet Coke, though?
01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:16.960
Like the crispiest, most electrifying Diet Coke you can find.
01:09:19.039 --> 01:09:23.199
Jesse, do you have a beverage that would like get you up and going after a good nap?
01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:26.479
Coffee feels like such an embarrassingly boring answer.
01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:28.399
What is your cold brew order?
01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:32.000
I just think most 90% of the time, I just drink coffee black.
01:09:32.159 --> 01:09:35.600
Every now and then I'll get like a creamer just to like shake things up.
01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:39.439
But I really I just really like the taste and smell of it.
01:09:40.479 --> 01:09:47.199
It would either be that or I've also again in my 30s, I've trained myself to think that seltzers are sodas.
01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:50.159
So now those are like, oh, I drink this all the time.
01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:56.319
So even just the sound of that can opening to like a Waterloo that's like in my fridge.
01:09:56.720 --> 01:10:00.000
I feel like I have to wake up and drink it before it goes flat because then it tastes like crap.
01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:01.359
That is so true.
01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:04.560
Katrina, do you have a beverage that will get you going?
01:10:05.119 --> 01:10:06.800
So two came to mind.
01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:14.479
The first one I actually haven't had in a long time, probably because I know I would like overdo it and have stomach issues.
01:10:14.720 --> 01:10:17.680
Um, strawberry Nestle's quick.
01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:29.039
Oh throw I never buy it, but like if I was the one else and was offered to me, like I'd take it, but I don't trust myself to buy like a big canister.
01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:33.199
Like I wouldn't be irresponsible, so I don't buy it.
01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:40.079
Um warm beverage, like I'm one of those people who does I don't really get energy from caffeine.
01:10:40.399 --> 01:10:42.319
Um, it makes me sleepy.
01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:44.880
But wait, do you have ADHD?
01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:49.600
I've never been diagnosed, but sometimes I wonder if I do.
01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:51.600
I I know I'm not normal.
01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:54.880
My kids aren't normal, so I'm probably not.
01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:58.960
So yeah, hot beverage, let us know.
01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:02.800
Yes, uh, it would be a good chai.
01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:04.239
Oh, I missed that.
01:11:04.319 --> 01:11:04.479
Yes.
01:11:04.720 --> 01:11:06.159
Oh love chai.
01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:07.439
I miss that.
01:11:07.680 --> 01:11:13.439
So, as the people on the show can see, I am drinking at night at 9 p.m.
01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:21.119
my time a delicious sugar-free, like ginger lime Red Bull.
01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:27.760
Because much like Katrina, I have a very interesting relationship with caffeine because of my ADHD.
01:11:28.079 --> 01:11:32.720
And so at certain times of day it wakes me up and it's usually after 1 p.m.
01:11:32.960 --> 01:11:34.239
It makes me sleepy.
01:11:34.479 --> 01:11:39.920
So I would have to have an array of beverages, and depending on the time of day, you would just have to be ready.
01:11:40.159 --> 01:11:46.720
So Jesse has taught me in life that I can have a hot and a cold coffee at once because I'm worth it.
01:11:47.279 --> 01:11:53.840
And then I would also have to have a cherry lime gator light because I need hydration in my life.
01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:55.920
I have to have all of these to wake up, by the way.
01:11:56.319 --> 01:11:58.560
I'm picturing them assembling like four drinks.
01:11:58.720 --> 01:12:02.319
Like, we should see the final one to get pulse to wake up.
01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:06.880
A one-liter bottle of Essentia water.
01:12:07.039 --> 01:12:08.479
I need that specifically.
01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:10.079
I need my electrolytes.
01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:15.600
And then I need somebody to go to the AMC Theater Freestyle Machine.
01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:17.359
Oh, freestyle.
01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:21.199
And get me a Sprite Chill cherry lime.
01:12:21.439 --> 01:12:22.960
Cherry lime only.
01:12:23.439 --> 01:12:24.720
And then I'll be okay.
01:12:24.880 --> 01:12:26.000
I need all of those.
01:12:26.079 --> 01:12:32.880
And then if I need one more warm beverage, I need a mint dark chocolate hot chocolate.
01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:35.600
Ooh, that's so good.
01:12:35.840 --> 01:12:36.399
I know.
01:12:36.640 --> 01:12:37.520
It's delicious.
01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:39.920
I found a dairy-free, gluten-free one page.
01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:41.359
Oh, rock your world.
01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:42.000
It's amazing.
01:12:42.159 --> 01:12:46.640
I know you're my sister and I make white hot oh white chocolate, hot chocolate on Christmas.
01:12:46.880 --> 01:12:49.840
Just like just for ourselves to get the whole overgaller carabin.
01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:50.720
We'll do that one night.
01:12:50.880 --> 01:12:51.520
It's really good.
01:12:52.159 --> 01:12:58.079
But yes, Jesse does know this because anytime I come to visit, the first thing I do is like, can we go to the bodega?
01:12:58.159 --> 01:13:00.800
And I will buy a bunch of beverages.
01:13:01.760 --> 01:13:02.880
Gotta be ready.
01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:03.920
Stay ready.
01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:05.199
You don't have to get ready.
01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:07.520
And then I have gator light in my fridge.
01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:08.640
It's delicious.
01:13:08.720 --> 01:13:10.239
And I bet it's a good mixer.
01:13:10.560 --> 01:13:12.159
But it literally is like, yeah.
01:13:13.199 --> 01:13:14.079
Put it in vodka.
01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:16.159
I get the sugar-free kind.
01:13:16.479 --> 01:13:17.039
You're welcome.
01:13:18.239 --> 01:13:19.520
I just need a little bit.
01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:25.920
But right now I am really vibing with this like lime ginger, sugar-free Red Bull.
01:13:26.159 --> 01:13:27.920
I'm gonna sleep great tonight.
01:13:28.319 --> 01:13:43.760
And there's not too much behind the scenes on this, other than we didn't mention it in the previous episode, but um, David Tennett, he did not film his regeneration scenes with Billy Piper because he had to film it at a different time because of production scheduling.
01:13:44.159 --> 01:13:50.079
And just like he was offered the role of the 10th Doctor after working with Russell T.
01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:52.640
Davies on Casanova, the little series.
01:13:52.720 --> 01:14:02.319
And he thought it was a joke at first because he's a very big Doctor Who fan, but he immediately accepted it when he realized they were serious about the offer.
01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:08.079
And he was so serious as a Doctor Who fan that he did marry one of the doctor's daughters.
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Serious business.
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Serious, serious business.
01:14:13.680 --> 01:14:15.039
So yeah, other notes.
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I mean, we've talked about this as the first Christmas special for the show.
01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:22.159
I think it's a fun one, even though it's a lot scarier than I remember.
01:14:22.720 --> 01:14:32.000
And another fun thing, the removing of Harriet Jones from office sets up the Harold Saxon arc in season or series three.
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Sorry, we try to say series over here.
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And that is one of my favorite seasons because Martha Jones is the companion and I would die for her.
01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:44.399
She is maybe my favorite companion.
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Catch me on the right day.
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Jesse, we'll have you back for Martha.
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She's amazing.
01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:50.479
You love her.
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One of the most beautiful people you've ever seen.
01:14:53.199 --> 01:14:56.399
I think that's every companion cast on this show, to be honest, though.
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We love hot people.
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This was a fun one.
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:01.439
It was a fun one.
01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:06.319
Do you think you're ready to watch more Doctor Who if we just keep throwing random ones at you?
01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:11.359
Um, specifically, yeah, you guys just tell me specific ones to watch every month or so.
01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:12.720
I think I can do that.
01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:13.439
Perfect.
01:15:13.760 --> 01:15:18.079
I still think that you would love Matt Smith's like first season.
01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:19.279
I think so too.
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We might have to invite you to a bunch of those.
01:15:21.680 --> 01:15:21.920
Yeah.
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You'll be third chair.
01:15:23.520 --> 01:15:23.600
Yeah.
01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:25.840
Katrina, any final thoughts?
01:15:26.239 --> 01:15:28.720
I just I I love Christmas episodes.
01:15:28.960 --> 01:15:39.600
Um they're really like nice and lighthearted, and um I go back to those more than um some other episodes.
01:15:39.760 --> 01:15:45.920
So it was really fun to uh kind of revisit that and uh talk about Christmas.
01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:52.159
I will say I really love when it comes to holiday traditions, how they do the Christmas crackers.
01:15:52.399 --> 01:16:01.520
Like one day I'm gonna remember to order them before Christmas and have them so like I can have them, and then I like the little hats that they wear.
01:16:01.760 --> 01:16:02.800
Oh, the paper hats, yes.
01:16:06.399 --> 01:16:10.319
I had one family Christmas party that had them, and I was so excited.
01:16:10.720 --> 01:16:13.279
It looks so fun, it does.
01:16:18.079 --> 01:16:21.439
But companions, thank you for wandering onto the TARDIS today.
01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:27.359
Let's just remind the listeners where they can find you and any podcasting work stuff that you have.
01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:29.680
Jesse, where can the good people find you?
01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:40.720
But I also do the podcast with Paige Chelsea and Owen called Sh My Stories Are On, um, where we talk about reality TV, soap operas, all that fun stuff.
01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:45.760
Um, and right now Big Brother's on, which Chelsea Paige and I are obsessed with.
01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:53.520
So that's primarily what's gonna be my feed for the rest of the summer because the season is so good so far.
01:16:53.840 --> 01:16:58.319
And the rest of your feed is going to be campaigning for Beyond the Gates for the daytime Emmys.
01:16:58.720 --> 01:17:00.239
Oh my gosh, yes.
01:17:00.399 --> 01:17:05.439
The Daytime Emmys just came out, and I'm feeling very passionate for our show.
01:17:05.680 --> 01:17:06.399
Oh, I know.
01:17:06.479 --> 01:17:09.439
And the nominees are good this year, even outside of Beyond the Gates.
01:17:09.520 --> 01:17:11.520
I'm like, oh I can't believe.
01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:17.039
Katrina, where can the good people find you and all your cool stuff and your cosplay?
01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:24.319
Uh so I am on threads at Katrina T.
01:17:24.479 --> 01:17:25.039
Parker.
01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:28.560
I'm also on Blue Sky.
01:17:29.520 --> 01:17:30.800
Wow, I shouldn't know this.
01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:32.479
What am I listed as?
01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:35.119
Oh, just well no, also Katrina T.
01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:39.199
Parker on Blue Sky and Instagram as well.
01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:46.159
I I have a podcast, it's on it's been in hiatus because life has been laughing, but eventually I'd like to go back to it.
01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:47.359
It's called Perky Pop.
01:17:47.439 --> 01:17:56.079
I talk about all sorts of like pop culture things and I add a little bit of social science because my undergraduate degree is in human development.
01:17:56.159 --> 01:17:57.359
So I love that.
01:17:57.520 --> 01:17:59.600
Everyone go listen to our golden girls episode.
01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:02.159
We should do another Golden Girls episode.
01:18:02.479 --> 01:18:03.039
Yes.
01:18:03.279 --> 01:18:07.359
Or if you want to do a facts of life episode with me and Jesse, we'll totally do it.
01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:08.800
I would like to do that.
01:18:08.880 --> 01:18:11.439
I need to like start rewatching that.
01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:13.279
I think it's on Jubi.
01:18:14.079 --> 01:18:14.399
Okay.
01:18:15.279 --> 01:18:19.920
And if you can't find it, these two know I will mail you a DVD box set.
01:18:20.880 --> 01:18:21.520
She will.
01:18:21.600 --> 01:18:22.560
She's serious.
01:18:22.800 --> 01:18:23.199
I know.
01:18:23.359 --> 01:18:23.840
I know she.
01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:29.359
Paige, you weren't the first person to get the Jody Whitaker Blu-ray set.
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Love that though.
01:18:34.079 --> 01:18:36.399
And thank you for listening to Across the Universe.
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Just don't bully us.
01:18:54.479 --> 01:18:55.600
Just don't bully us.
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Don't do that.
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That's not nice.
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I'll just delete it.
01:18:59.439 --> 01:19:04.159
But then we are in September launching the Across the Universe Patreon.
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We're going to do bonus episodes, everything from talking about movies and TV shows the other doctors and companions have been in to silly little stuff like talking about our favorite monsters, maybe starting a little book club there, talking about Doctor Who and Doctor Who related things.
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It's going to be a silly fun time.
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So check it out.
01:19:23.760 --> 01:19:26.560
Paige, remind the Time Lords where else they can find you.
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They can find me at Thoughts by Paige on Blue Sky.
01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:36.000
I am Hay Smithers on Tumblr and Paige and Mel Kaiser on Instagram.
01:19:36.239 --> 01:19:38.720
Uh, like it was already mentioned.
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I am on the sh my stories are on podcasts with Chelsea Jesse and Owen talking about reality TV and all sorts of good things.
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And I also have a substack that's called Girlhood and Low Resolution, where I talk about growing up as a girl on the internet in the 2000s.
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And I love that substack, y'all.
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Thank you.
01:19:58.479 --> 01:20:03.359
And I'm Chelse 725 on the Blue Sky serialized letterbox and Chelsea on Instagram.
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If you can find my Tumblr, you're stronger than a Sycorax.
01:20:06.319 --> 01:20:15.039
You can listen to me and my fellow agents slash previous companion Gavin on the Q Division, a James Bond movie marathon podcast, wherever you listen to your podcasts.
01:20:15.199 --> 01:20:20.239
And I can also be heard on the Shh, my stories are on feed with Jesse, Owen, Page.
01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:22.640
We talk about all of our favorite silly Billy shows.
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Check it out.
01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:31.600
And then of course, I'm a recent and frequent guest on Female Gays, the film club, where I'm going to be on more than Jesse because we have our blood feud over there.
01:20:31.840 --> 01:20:38.960
And recently I have talked about the Jody Whitaker movie Adult Life Skills because it was written, directed, edited, and shot by women.
01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:40.239
And it's wonderful.
01:20:40.479 --> 01:20:41.600
And really sad.
01:20:41.840 --> 01:20:50.079
But then also I'm on the And a Rewatch pod talking about the tragically canceled Karen Gillen show Selfie, and me and Jesse are just mourning.
01:20:50.319 --> 01:20:53.359
Oh, 22-episode seasons of TV.
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Uh, we used to be a proper country.
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And then be sure to join us on our next adventure across space and time as we revisit New Earth.
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So until then, we'll see you in the time vortex.