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Speaker 1: Welcome back. Tuesday, May twelve, twenty twenty six. I am Seth Leaps and six zero two five zero eight zero nine six zero on the Easy Mobile Chiropractic hotline. We were speaking a bit yesterday about what young people know, what they think they know, what they don't know, and their susceptibility to conspiracy theories. I was struck on that last point by something the philosopher Eric Hoffer wrote in a wonderfully titled book called The True Believer, where he wrote, quote, passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Thus, people haunted by the purposelessness of their lives try to find a new content, not only by dedicating themselves to a holy cause, but also by nursing a fanatical grievance. A mass movement offers them unlimited opportunities for both close quote. There's a lot of that going around, especially in the susceptibility and credulousness of conspiracy theories targeting our youth, particularly, but not exclusively, are young men look at the new Jewish question for a moment. Mass has Belah marches this week and last week in front of synagogues in Manhattan and Brooklyn. A massive New York Times. I've had yesterday detailing literally impossible while also awfully sourced stories of rape in Israel, including the use of dogs. I'm in a massively detailed and documented report today about the actual rape as a means of war by Hamas and its affiliates, which will receive and is receiving, far less attention, though it is far more and indeed exquisitely so sourced. Just but one example. We can do others. We young people know what they think, they know what they don't know, and their susceptibility to conspiracy theories all based on a certain level of hatred, based on a purposelessness and grievance. I'd add loneliness, and I'd add lack of foundational knowledge. I think again about the story we spoke of yesterday, with so many Ivy League college didents simply not knowing of unfamiliar It's something so basic to Western civilization when you think of reason and revelation half its building block, really as the Ten Commandments, which if you do not know of, you cannot know this civilization, your civilization, and its expectations for all that it entails, civility, civil society, as you often hear me say one of the great Paradox's riddles, if not sadnesses and descriptives of our time, is this at a time, at the time when we have more wealth than any other people or country in the history of the world. Even our lower middle class today lives better than the Sun King ever did. When we have more access to information than any other people or country in the history of the world. Any decent college has more volumes of books than the famed Library of Alexandria. When we can access any study or book that's ever been published in any language, with technology we can carry in our hands. We have more access to transportation than any other people or country in the history of the world, with scientific advance and knowledge and technology that would be unimaginable to Albert Einstein or Jonas salk alike. We have record high depression rates, record high suicide rates, record high addiction rates, record high drug use and drug death rates. We have declining life expectancy. We have declining church and synagogue attendants, declining marriage rates, not just worst mortality, but lower morality. We have declining birth rates, and we have declining educational outcomes. We are in fact stupider per Axios on an international comparison with our OECD partner countries, US high school students declined thirteen points in their math scores recently. It was actually our lowest score in the history of the test, and we dropped in literacy as well. As Axios reminded, this is not an isolated finding, nor should at shock. Multiple studies have highlighted the adverse and stark impact of the COVID pandemic on education. One study released last year found that elementary and medical schoolers in the US need months of extra schooling to close pandemic induced gaps. Reading in math scores for elementary school and middle school students have plunged, and data released last year as part of the nation's report card found that US history scores among middle schoolers also plummeted to their lowest level ever recorded Since the assessment began on our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. We've never known less about our country's history. What do you think that opens young and credulous minds to and to whom does it open them? It is all self inflicted. As Eric Hanishek at Stanford has researched and reported, we did a wonderful job at those school closures in COVID, didn't we Total lifetime earnings lost by the students could amount to nearly thirty tillion dollars in GDP. And that's just taking into account math deficits, nevermind science, literacy, reading, or other areas of study. School closures to protect a population that was never really affected much by COVID in the first place. Since COVID began here in early twenty twenty, fewer than seventeen hundred children died with or from it over all these years. If we looked at drowning over the same period, one hundred and thirty five percent more children died from that. And if we looked at drug overdose deaths, it would be another one hundred and thirty five percent greater death toll than from COVID. But did we or do we close pools and oceans because of drowning? Well, for COVID, we closed them, but not for drowning closed them for COVID. You see, we are a country that is miss and deprioritized on our values and concerns. And here's the irony as the schools and courts around the country debate whether we can put the Ten Commandments in our classrooms. Those opposed to such are happy to yank the young from their innocent and curious gardens of Eden by exposing them to all fours of age inappropriate and adult material, just as they use our youth to soothe their social and psychological anxieties, as they catastrophized them over so many things, from a virus to their sexuality. And thus our youth are not doing well. Losing what they lost in learning may be the least of it. As Hugh Hallman reminds, some of them never had it to lose, and the full receipts will not be in for some time. As for civility, civilizational knowledge, our own country's history, they are good and important things to know in and of themselves, and importantly, knowing them is a chief antidote to, or a vaccine against propaganda or conspiracy theories. As for literacy, including history, we should start by knowing who we are. That convergence or conveyance of teaching, whether by a good teacher or parent, should inspire, if done rightly, an entire industry of curiosity and thirst for learning in our children. It should inspire them to want to I like how William Bennett once put it, giving a pretty good roadmamp when he was Secretary of Education. He said, our students should know who said I am the state and who said I have a dream. They should know about the Donner Party and about slavery. They should know about Abigail Adams and why there was a Berlin Wall. They should know something about the Convention of seventeen eighty seven and about the Conventions of Good Behavior. They should know what greatness looks like, and how greatness crumbles, dies and sometimes rises again. They should recognize famous American names like Aaron Burr and John Calhoun and James Fenimore Cooper and Dorothea Dixon, Stephen Douglas and Frederick Douglas and Jonathan Edwards and Ralph Waldo Emerson and Nathaniel Hawthorne. They should be familiar with the Battle Hymn of the Republic, the Declaration of Independence, the Preamble to the Constitution, John Cays Inaugural Address, Lincoln's second Inaugural and the Gettysburg Address. And they should not be strangers to certain words and phrases like we hold these truths. These are the times that try men's souls I have not yet begun to fight. A house divided against itself cannot stand the only thing we have to fear, this fear itself. These are things they should know. These are things that history can teach them. How many eighth graders do you think know these things? And that's kind of an important point beyond just knowing these things or about these things, because you know what happens when you teach them that stuff. You teach them about what Bennett called the second greatest story ever told, which might be a tall order when we started off by thinking they don't know the first greatest story ever told. But when you teach them that stuff, as opposed to not teaching them, not supervising their teaching, or accepting the stuff that comes out of our graduate schools of education and implants itself in our elementary schools tomorrow, when you teach them that stuff, as I said, create an entire new demand of interest and curiosity, a thirst for knowledge, and a securing of that knowledge that helps stave off emptiness, purposelessness, and grievance. Let's call it says law of pedagogy, where a good supply increases a strong demand for young brains are curious. They are seeking sponges, and if we don't do the supplying, someone else will. And another wonderfully titled book, The Abolition of Man cs Lewis put it that a hard heart think grievance and hate filled or haunted, is no infallible protection against a soft head. The irony to me is that given the otherwise material advancement us so well, we are today so extensively void, and you cannot tell me this is accidental, not knowing something so basic as the Ten Commandments that doesn't just happen osmodically. I'm seth leap. Since six zero two five zero eight zero nine six zero on the easy Mobile Chiropractor Hotline, we shall return portions of the show brought to you by CMI Gold and Silver. With gold and silver in the news a ton lately, why wouldn't it be people are looking to protect their wealth with real, tangible hard assets that are easy to liquidate. So when you think about gold and silver, I want you to think about CMI goldensilvercmigs dot com. I highly recommend them for low premiums and great customer service. I've known them a long time. 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Speaker 2: Hello, Rick, Hi, there's Seth.
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Speaker 3: How are you?
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Speaker 2: Thank you for taking my call?
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Speaker 3: Of course, very good, very very.
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Speaker 2: Good monologue today. I appreciate it, and it kind of stimulated my thinking a little bit, which happens. I think of the time when I listened to you.
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Speaker 1: I'll take it. I'll take it.
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Speaker 2: Ah, you should because you you do great and I appreciate it, Seth. So what I'm thinking about is the demise of journalism. I heard recently, and it might have been from you, that we are not graduating journalistic students anymore. And it put me in mind of a reporter that you actually had there at KK and T a few years ago. And I don't remember her name. I think her first name, Corey. That was her first name, Cory. And when I would listen to Corey, she reminded me so much of Paul Harvey, and it took it took me back to a time when newscasters were informers, not entertainers. And it seems to me that they have become entertainers and less and less informers, and the journalists stick integrity has dropped and dropped and dropped, and fewer and fewer people are listening. I remember when I was maybe it was high school, but I'm thinking grade school that we learned the five parts of journalism. Who, what, when?
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Speaker 4: Why?
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Speaker 1: Now?
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Speaker 2: But these days newscasters seen, they seen, seems like they have to embellish and like I heard newscast a little earlier today was talking about Savannah Guthrie's mother, Okay, and they were saying that she has been missing over one hundred days. Well let's see, now, if I get out my calendar and calculate one hundred, you know, I mean, what why not just say she went missing on March the first, right, February the eight. You know, it just it's exasperating to me to listen to. And you know, the thing that really gets me said is that even on Salem and the Conservative News, the station's a lot of them, they seem to be more focused on razzling and dazzling. You know. It's kind of like that old saying. You know, if you can't, if you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with full And it just seems like more and more of our the news that we get is less and less helpful. Does that make any sense?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. I think it is less and less helpful, and a lot of it isn't news. I mean, there's so much to say here. There is such a competition for clicks and eyeballs and subscribers that everything has to be a crisis and an emergency, and everything has to be in extremists. And boy, isn't genocide a much more interesting and intriguing word than a battle front or combat? And isn't it so much more the interesting when you can inject racism where it doesn't exist, or you can create stories of bitterness and a division between people where it doesn't exist where you can invent I guess it would be a tautology to say, but where you can invent a hoax to stir up the emotions and have people follow it. It's hard to motivate people in news on positive stories, and I get that. I get that, but it's much more easier to motivate action with negative stories. And I think journalism has given in not to reporting anymore, but to stirring and driving action. I think it's it's actually a very dangerous, dangerous thing. It's it's it's it's to inspire and enjoin rather than to simply and calmly in form. And then it has this other problem of picking and choosing who the right right groups are to expose and the right groups are to defame. Always very interesting, whether it has to do with crime or whether it has to do with war, but it's always an agitation and it always comes with an ideological bent. And one of the things I like about talk radio is when you have a host, let's say, who's honest. When you have an honest host and he will or she will share their opinions with you, but you kind of get to know where they're coming from. You have no idea who these people on TV are, these names at the New York Times, where they're coming from, and so you just take them by the gloss of the institution. You say, well, we should trust ABC, or we should trust NBC, or we should trust the New York Times. Surely they're giving us the straight dope. But you don't get to do that because you don't know where these people are coming from. With a talk show host, you get to know intimately day in and day out, and more than that, you get to call us on it when we get it wrong. You get to call us on it when we get it wrong, and we won't stay here very long if we keep getting it wrong.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeff, I thank you. I always appreciate your perspective, and I look forward to the rest of a great show with you Yanks.
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Speaker 1: Man, I really appreciate it. Sounds like you're in a good place today. May you continue to stay there and grow to get to an even better place, even with it so hot outside. All right, I have other people on hold. Let me do my culture and economy update, and we will take your calls when we come back. You know a good example of this, By the way, look how much attention Nick Christoff's scandal of a story is in the op ed section about rape, saying things that no one with an IQ of eighty could even possibly believe. And how much attention the New York teams gave to a serious report, a serious report that took years to put together with thousands of sources. That is exquisitely, as I say documented. Think about that contrast when you think about what the media wants you to believe. We'll be right back. Welcome back to the Seth Liebson Show. John dom Prowski brings us our culture and economy update. He is the president and founder of Grand Canyon Planning Associates Grand Canyon Planning dot com the website to reach out to him or see what Grand Canyon Planning can do for you. Happy Tuesday, John, How.
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Speaker 2: Are you, hey, Seth?
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Speaker 3: What's going on?
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Speaker 1: Well? I have a few questions for you, as only you can answer. First, tell me how the markets look today, the little balancing out. Yeah, Hey, a.
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Speaker 5: Little bit of a mixed market today. We did see the market pull back up. We're down quite a bit this morning, but I gave you know, pull caught its way back a little bit to Dow closed up a few points SMP and the NASDAK lower. But yeah, we had a little bit of a consumer price nd EX it came out today which was a little higher than.
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Speaker 1: Expected, a little higher than we wanted it.
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Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, three point eight percent year over year for April, which is up from three.
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Speaker 3: Point three in March.
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Speaker 5: And you know, that kind of is trickling down to some of the other areas of the market, some of the consumables here, and so we're seeing a little bit of a spike.
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Speaker 3: Is it.
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Speaker 5: Is it something that's going to be long lasting? I mean, I don't know, but you know, there's of course right away people talking about the FED maybe hiking rates instead of cutting rates. But it's all too premature to say it's just one month.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's exactly right, It's exactly right, one month. We've had years that averaged out in sixes and sevens within the past five years. So yeah, let's be grateful for where it is right now. One of the things that was driving it is I understand it, were energy prices, gas prices, yes.
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Speaker 3: Sure, yes.
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Speaker 1: And one of the things I have been wondering about is at what point can the press or for that matter, certain governors start taking seriously the notion that productivity and growth is going to require energy and that means people driving to get to work and driving to get to buy things, and thus maybe putting a little bit of a suspension or in some cases cut to the gas taxes.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Now the president may need an Act of Congress. I'm not sure certain states may need legislative but man, they can move fast when they want to. California is a seventy one cents a gallon, for example.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're they're they're the highest, right when it comes to their gasoline tax. You know, then Illinois at sixty six.
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Speaker 3: Percent, Washington.
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Speaker 5: You know, I was surprised not to see Arizona in that top ten because Arizona gas prices seem hier that.
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Speaker 1: They do seem in a lot of areas. That's a difference.
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Speaker 3: But you're right when.
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Speaker 5: It comes to this tax, it's the president. I was listening to Word the other day and question was asked to him about it, and he yeah, he says, I would like to see, you know, this suspend the gay attacks for some period of time basically, and whether or not he needs congressional approval or not. That's that's a question, I guess. But if they could do that, that's certainly in some fashion. You know, when we saw the spike in gas prices under the Biden administration, what they did is they went to the strategic oil and started you.
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Speaker 3: Know, pulling from that.
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Speaker 5: But and then of course it never got refilled, which I think it needs to be refilled. But yeah, cutting the gas tacks, I'm all for it if we can do it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And the federal part is not the highest given some of these states, right, the federal part is not what does I think eighteen eighteen cents?
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Speaker 3: Eighteen cents?
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Speaker 1: All right, So I mean, let's let's look to California. Let's we're in Arizona. What we're in the twenties? I think, aren't we? I think we're somewhere in the twenties. Yeah, the federal part is not the hard party. So you know, governors can use emergency powers. I should think.
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Speaker 5: I would hope that's the use it for other things.
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Speaker 3: They hope to do it for this, you know, and it may be short lived.
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Speaker 5: Right, because if the conflict could, you know, look some type of a conclusion in the next few months, then then we would you know that gas tax could be Yeah, seventy four days.
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Speaker 1: It's not forever. I am amazed by people's weird, weird use of calendars and clocks. Seventy four days is not forever.
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Speaker 5: Right, And you know, the market pulled back a little on this news today with the inflation numbers, right, that's pretty standard. I mean, the market has been on such a rally over here for the last month that it's a fairly historic rally that we've seen here. And you know, in looking at the numbers, the corporate earnings and the other statistics that we're looking.
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Speaker 3: At, there may still be room for.
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Speaker 5: This market to continue to go higher, even though we have this little bit of inflation right pressure. So I encourage people to, uh, you know, if you're working with your advisor, certainly.
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Speaker 3: Stick to your advisor's advice.
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Speaker 5: If you're not working with some month, please feel free to pick up the phone and call me. You go to our website at Grand Canyon Planning dot com. Thank you, John, you bet as always Seth check out our web's Grant Canyon plenty com. Securities and advisory services off the Creative One Securities LLC. A member of the Best Advisor, Grand Canyon, Plenty Associates llsee and create one Securities was not affiliated.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Thanks John Toxon. Welcome back to the Seth Leapson Show. With the heat here. You you want to call Client Heating and Cooling. You don't want to be caught unprepared, and you want them for the cooling. Obviously, I know Client Heating and Cooling very well. Mister Klein is a good man. You can trust and rely on him. They have flat rate pricing, no surprise up charges. They install train rude carry on other HVAC units. They will service all makes and all sizes. They will do residential, they will do commercial. Check them out at Cline Heatingcooling dot com, k L e I N Cline Heating Cooling dot Com. Some companies will sell you a new system when you don't really need one. Incline, they'll do a free in home comprehensive analysis so you get the right solution at the right price. Cline Heatingcooling dot Com, Tom and Phoenix, thank you for your patience, sir, Hi.
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Speaker 4: Hi, Hello Seth. I'm a first time caller, longtime listener.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 4: I was I was listening to your monologue and I'm not disputing what you said about declining church enrollment, but I just wanted to possibly throw in some good news in that in that arena, and that is that in the ancient Church, the Orthodox, in the Catholic Church, there is explosive growth going on in the ancient churches right now beyond what anybody that I know has ever seen in our lifetimes. And I just wanted to inject that little bit of positive because, as an earlier caller said, there's so much negative, and that's all I really wanted to add.
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Speaker 1: No, that's I hope you're right. I mean, I hope you're right.
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Speaker 2: David.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to invite you to join me in on this conversation because you and I were part of a call earlier this week that discussed some of this. And there is an overall church decline if you'll allow me to include every every denomination that considers itself to be Christian. In fact, the statistic that you will you will find amazing is that more people have left the church in the last twenty five years then joined it in the first grade awakening, the second grade away and every Billy Graham, Cruise, Sade combined now from what I understand about the statistics I read on this. When it comes to Catholic Church attendance, the Catholic Church is still experiencing losses, but at a slower rate, at a lower rate than some of the other denominations. Does that sound right to you or does that sound wrong to you?
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Speaker 4: That sounds wrong to me. For example, the Catholic Organization at ASU came out this year and said that they don't even know where all these kids are coming from. It's just absolutely unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: It makes me happy. I want more people to go. That makes me happy.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm Orthodox, and you know, very few people even know about the Orthodox religion. And I just happen to have had lunch with my priests today and we currently have one hundred and thirty nine Categhumans and we just baptize thirty six new church members over Pasca or the Eastern Easter. So yeah, no, and everyone that I know in the Catholic circles, they're all seated in their churches.
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Speaker 1: Well, that makes me happy to hear. And maybe maybe your anecdotes are more substantive than what I've been reading statistically, David, do you recall any part of the conversation we were part of on Monday that I do waste in on some of this go ahead, I do, and.
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Speaker 6: We got to speak with some great minds as part of Salem's wide variety of talking hosts, and we're discussing what happens when the young men look to go somewhere where they can be affirmed for their masculinity and their role in which they see that the Bible is giving to them, and they're not getting that from some of your more should I say, Eastern establishment Protestant denominations, and so naturally they're going to be turning to Orthodox Catholicism and denominations like sixteen to eighty nine Baptists who are extremely affirming of certain things like gender and gender roles and what we would call creation order.
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Speaker 1: One of the things I understand too, Tom, Thanks for that, David. One of the things I understand too, Tom, is that the more rigorous the church, the more retension and the more interest.
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Speaker 2: So.
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Speaker 1: Didn't we also see, David, refresh my memory if I get this wrong, and I don't want to be wrong. Didn't we also see in the Protestant some question about the more reform oriented which means something different than it does and Judaism. But the more reform, the more seriously scriptural, the better the retention rate than some Yeah, there's somewhat of an exception. Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, Well, Tom, I hope you're right. I mean, I hope you're right. My reading was that the Catholic Church was not immune. It was just doing a little bit better, or maybe even substantially better, but not immune from declines. I hope you're right. I hope you're right. And look, I still agree with Ben Shapiro who famously said last year, if there was one thing he could do to improve our civilization, what would it be? And he said, tell more people to go to church. Amen, yeah, you know that would be. That would be. How did William Bennett used to put it? He says, if you could give me stronger churches, stronger schools, and stronger families, I will give you back ninety five percent of what else society. But let's start with the churches, which might be easier, might be easier to repair than the schools and the families in this country might be. And they might drive the repair of the schools and families.
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Speaker 4: And to and to David's point, that's what a lot of these people that are going back to the ancient churches are looking for is that hierarchy, is the whole gender situation and so on, because you know, it's just not tolerated in the old churches and stuff. And so that's what a lot of people that are coming back and not coming back, but coming to the ancient churches, that's what they're talking about. That they're just sick and tired.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 1: They're not looking for what you saw at the National Cathedral on Inauguration Day, right, They're not looking.
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Speaker 4: For that, right, No, they're and they're tired of the of the loud rock style music and stuff.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 4: They they want that that solemn worship again, that that deepening of their of their worst. So but thank you for taking my call.
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Speaker 1: Well, thanks for being a first time caller, Tom, don't be a stranger. As you can see, it's perfectly the water's perfectly fine.
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Speaker 2: Here.
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Speaker 4: I'm very comfortable.
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Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, there you go, all right? Good. Maybe not as comfortable as church, but we were pretty easy with our listeners and callers, aren't we. We try, We try, we try. I encourage I mean someone told me one of the few shows in town that takes live calls. And I don't know whether that's true or not, but to the degree it may have any truth to it, I welcome it. The more the better. I have so much joy in conversing with so many, in fact, anyone who wants to challenge me or add to anything I said. It gives me joy that people care. I get this sense in society generally that some of the darker corners people go to in the UH, on their computers or in their screen time or elsewhere is because people aren't listening and talking to them or taking them seriously. I will, I'll do it. I'm here for that. Six zero two fifty eighty nine to sixty.
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Speaker 2: Be right back.
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Speaker 7: Well seth, It's good to hear your voice. Be a phone anyway. You know who this is? Right? Would Jesus ask are you listening on Saturdays?
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Speaker 2: Oh?
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Speaker 1: Because I see you in the hallways here sometimes do I not?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 7: Sometimes listen. I want to say thank you for some of your stories. We do not get to listen to you every day. But being a Baptist preacher's daughter from Kentucky, I wanted to say I just wanted to get in on this a little bit.
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Speaker 2: We go to Northwest.
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Speaker 7: Community Church forty third Avenue between Bell and Greenway, and our services we are running probably six hundred to seven hundred on a Sunday morning, but there's fifteen hundred students there at a Christian school behind the church. And I was out all day long talking to people about God. And they were telling me they were Christians. I'm thankful for that. So listen, God, bless you and David, and thank you again for just how long have you been.
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Speaker 1: Involved in How long? Christy? If I might, how long have you been involved with that church?
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Speaker 7: I have been involved with the church two years. Uh huh, But I've been I've been in church. Well, let's put this back. I've been back with God about thirty four years.
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Speaker 1: Have you noticed demographic changes? Have you noticed upticks and attendance or down ticks or rises or follows?
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Speaker 3: We're up, You're up, we are up, good, big time good.
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Speaker 7: Yes, a lot of young people, and truth is they are they're wanting to get out from this gender idegy.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of that, by the way, Christy, just on that point, do you notice that you're up with young men or young women or both.
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Speaker 3: Both?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Interesting, both, A.
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Speaker 7: Lot of Mary, A lot of young couples getting married, having children, raising their children in the church. I have thirteen grandchildren, and all thirteen and my grandchildren are in church. Bless you, I blast we're blessed so well, we're.
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Speaker 1: Blessed for having them be so and for having them as your grandmother and moral instructor, or at least moral example, if not instructor or maybe both. I mean, we're all blessed by that, and I think we all have to think of our ourselves that way. We all have to think of ourselves as being a partner in the repair of society. And you know what's nice about what's nice about the solution of church or for that matter, synagogue, and going regularly doesn't cost anything, doesn't cost anything. That's what's wonderful about it. Some of the best things, don't Thank you, Christy. We'll be right back
Speaker 1: Welcome back. Tuesday, May twelve, twenty twenty six. I am Seth Leaps and six zero two five zero eight zero nine six zero on the Easy Mobile Chiropractic hotline. We were speaking a bit yesterday about what young people know, what they think they know, what they don't know, and their susceptibility to conspiracy theories. I was struck on that last point by something the philosopher Eric Hoffer wrote in a wonderfully titled book called The True Believer, where he wrote, quote, passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Thus, people haunted by the purposelessness of their lives try to find a new content, not only by dedicating themselves to a holy cause, but also by nursing a fanatical grievance. A mass movement offers them unlimited opportunities for both close quote. There's a lot of that going around, especially in the susceptibility and credulousness of conspiracy theories targeting our youth, particularly, but not exclusively, are young men look at the new Jewish question for a moment. Mass has Belah marches this week and last week in front of synagogues in Manhattan and Brooklyn. A massive New York Times. I've had yesterday detailing literally impossible while also awfully sourced stories of rape in Israel, including the use of dogs. I'm in a massively detailed and documented report today about the actual rape as a means of war by Hamas and its affiliates, which will receive and is receiving, far less attention, though it is far more and indeed exquisitely so sourced. Just but one example. We can do others. We young people know what they think, they know what they don't know, and their susceptibility to conspiracy theories all based on a certain level of hatred, based on a purposelessness and grievance. I'd add loneliness, and I'd add lack of foundational knowledge. I think again about the story we spoke of yesterday, with so many Ivy League college didents simply not knowing of unfamiliar It's something so basic to Western civilization when you think of reason and revelation half its building block, really as the Ten Commandments, which if you do not know of, you cannot know this civilization, your civilization, and its expectations for all that it entails, civility, civil society, as you often hear me say one of the great Paradox's riddles, if not sadnesses and descriptives of our time, is this at a time, at the time when we have more wealth than any other people or country in the history of the world. Even our lower middle class today lives better than the Sun King ever did. When we have more access to information than any other people or country in the history of the world. Any decent college has more volumes of books than the famed Library of Alexandria. When we can access any study or book that's ever been published in any language, with technology we can carry in our hands. We have more access to transportation than any other people or country in the history of the world, with scientific advance and knowledge and technology that would be unimaginable to Albert Einstein or Jonas salk alike. We have record high depression rates, record high suicide rates, record high addiction rates, record high drug use and drug death rates. We have declining life expectancy. We have declining church and synagogue attendants, declining marriage rates, not just worst mortality, but lower morality. We have declining birth rates, and we have declining educational outcomes. We are in fact stupider per Axios on an international comparison with our OECD partner countries, US high school students declined thirteen points in their math scores recently. It was actually our lowest score in the history of the test, and we dropped in literacy as well. As Axios reminded, this is not an isolated finding, nor should at shock. Multiple studies have highlighted the adverse and stark impact of the COVID pandemic on education. One study released last year found that elementary and medical schoolers in the US need months of extra schooling to close pandemic induced gaps. Reading in math scores for elementary school and middle school students have plunged, and data released last year as part of the nation's report card found that US history scores among middle schoolers also plummeted to their lowest level ever recorded Since the assessment began on our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. We've never known less about our country's history. What do you think that opens young and credulous minds to and to whom does it open them? It is all self inflicted. As Eric Hanishek at Stanford has researched and reported, we did a wonderful job at those school closures in COVID, didn't we Total lifetime earnings lost by the students could amount to nearly thirty tillion dollars in GDP. And that's just taking into account math deficits, nevermind science, literacy, reading, or other areas of study. School closures to protect a population that was never really affected much by COVID in the first place. Since COVID began here in early twenty twenty, fewer than seventeen hundred children died with or from it over all these years. If we looked at drowning over the same period, one hundred and thirty five percent more children died from that. And if we looked at drug overdose deaths, it would be another one hundred and thirty five percent greater death toll than from COVID. But did we or do we close pools and oceans because of drowning? Well, for COVID, we closed them, but not for drowning closed them for COVID. You see, we are a country that is miss and deprioritized on our values and concerns. And here's the irony as the schools and courts around the country debate whether we can put the Ten Commandments in our classrooms. Those opposed to such are happy to yank the young from their innocent and curious gardens of Eden by exposing them to all fours of age inappropriate and adult material, just as they use our youth to soothe their social and psychological anxieties, as they catastrophized them over so many things, from a virus to their sexuality. And thus our youth are not doing well. Losing what they lost in learning may be the least of it. As Hugh Hallman reminds, some of them never had it to lose, and the full receipts will not be in for some time. As for civility, civilizational knowledge, our own country's history, they are good and important things to know in and of themselves, and importantly, knowing them is a chief antidote to, or a vaccine against propaganda or conspiracy theories. As for literacy, including history, we should start by knowing who we are. That convergence or conveyance of teaching, whether by a good teacher or parent, should inspire, if done rightly, an entire industry of curiosity and thirst for learning in our children. It should inspire them to want to I like how William Bennett once put it, giving a pretty good roadmamp when he was Secretary of Education. He said, our students should know who said I am the state and who said I have a dream. They should know about the Donner Party and about slavery. They should know about Abigail Adams and why there was a Berlin Wall. They should know something about the Convention of seventeen eighty seven and about the Conventions of Good Behavior. They should know what greatness looks like, and how greatness crumbles, dies and sometimes rises again. They should recognize famous American names like Aaron Burr and John Calhoun and James Fenimore Cooper and Dorothea Dixon, Stephen Douglas and Frederick Douglas and Jonathan Edwards and Ralph Waldo Emerson and Nathaniel Hawthorne. They should be familiar with the Battle Hymn of the Republic, the Declaration of Independence, the Preamble to the Constitution, John Cays Inaugural Address, Lincoln's second Inaugural and the Gettysburg Address. And they should not be strangers to certain words and phrases like we hold these truths. These are the times that try men's souls I have not yet begun to fight. A house divided against itself cannot stand the only thing we have to fear, this fear itself. These are things they should know. These are things that history can teach them. How many eighth graders do you think know these things? And that's kind of an important point beyond just knowing these things or about these things, because you know what happens when you teach them that stuff. You teach them about what Bennett called the second greatest story ever told, which might be a tall order when we started off by thinking they don't know the first greatest story ever told. But when you teach them that stuff, as opposed to not teaching them, not supervising their teaching, or accepting the stuff that comes out of our graduate schools of education and implants itself in our elementary schools tomorrow, when you teach them that stuff, as I said, create an entire new demand of interest and curiosity, a thirst for knowledge, and a securing of that knowledge that helps stave off emptiness, purposelessness, and grievance. Let's call it says law of pedagogy, where a good supply increases a strong demand for young brains are curious. They are seeking sponges, and if we don't do the supplying, someone else will. And another wonderfully titled book, The Abolition of Man cs Lewis put it that a hard heart think grievance and hate filled or haunted, is no infallible protection against a soft head. The irony to me is that given the otherwise material advancement us so well, we are today so extensively void, and you cannot tell me this is accidental, not knowing something so basic as the Ten Commandments that doesn't just happen osmodically. I'm seth leap. Since six zero two five zero eight zero nine six zero on the easy Mobile Chiropractor Hotline, we shall return portions of the show brought to you by CMI Gold and Silver. With gold and silver in the news a ton lately, why wouldn't it be people are looking to protect their wealth with real, tangible hard assets that are easy to liquidate. So when you think about gold and silver, I want you to think about CMI goldensilvercmigs dot com. I highly recommend them for low premiums and great customer service. I've known them a long time. 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Speaker 2: Hello, Rick, Hi, there's Seth.
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Speaker 3: How are you?
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Speaker 2: Thank you for taking my call?
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Speaker 3: Of course, very good, very very.
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Speaker 2: Good monologue today. I appreciate it, and it kind of stimulated my thinking a little bit, which happens. I think of the time when I listened to you.
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Speaker 1: I'll take it. I'll take it.
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Speaker 2: Ah, you should because you you do great and I appreciate it, Seth. So what I'm thinking about is the demise of journalism. I heard recently, and it might have been from you, that we are not graduating journalistic students anymore. And it put me in mind of a reporter that you actually had there at KK and T a few years ago. And I don't remember her name. I think her first name, Corey. That was her first name, Cory. And when I would listen to Corey, she reminded me so much of Paul Harvey, and it took it took me back to a time when newscasters were informers, not entertainers. And it seems to me that they have become entertainers and less and less informers, and the journalists stick integrity has dropped and dropped and dropped, and fewer and fewer people are listening. I remember when I was maybe it was high school, but I'm thinking grade school that we learned the five parts of journalism. Who, what, when?
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Speaker 4: Why?
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Speaker 1: Now?
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Speaker 2: But these days newscasters seen, they seen, seems like they have to embellish and like I heard newscast a little earlier today was talking about Savannah Guthrie's mother, Okay, and they were saying that she has been missing over one hundred days. Well let's see, now, if I get out my calendar and calculate one hundred, you know, I mean, what why not just say she went missing on March the first, right, February the eight. You know, it just it's exasperating to me to listen to. And you know, the thing that really gets me said is that even on Salem and the Conservative News, the station's a lot of them, they seem to be more focused on razzling and dazzling. You know. It's kind of like that old saying. You know, if you can't, if you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with full And it just seems like more and more of our the news that we get is less and less helpful. Does that make any sense?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. I think it is less and less helpful, and a lot of it isn't news. I mean, there's so much to say here. There is such a competition for clicks and eyeballs and subscribers that everything has to be a crisis and an emergency, and everything has to be in extremists. And boy, isn't genocide a much more interesting and intriguing word than a battle front or combat? And isn't it so much more the interesting when you can inject racism where it doesn't exist, or you can create stories of bitterness and a division between people where it doesn't exist where you can invent I guess it would be a tautology to say, but where you can invent a hoax to stir up the emotions and have people follow it. It's hard to motivate people in news on positive stories, and I get that. I get that, but it's much more easier to motivate action with negative stories. And I think journalism has given in not to reporting anymore, but to stirring and driving action. I think it's it's actually a very dangerous, dangerous thing. It's it's it's it's to inspire and enjoin rather than to simply and calmly in form. And then it has this other problem of picking and choosing who the right right groups are to expose and the right groups are to defame. Always very interesting, whether it has to do with crime or whether it has to do with war, but it's always an agitation and it always comes with an ideological bent. And one of the things I like about talk radio is when you have a host, let's say, who's honest. When you have an honest host and he will or she will share their opinions with you, but you kind of get to know where they're coming from. You have no idea who these people on TV are, these names at the New York Times, where they're coming from, and so you just take them by the gloss of the institution. You say, well, we should trust ABC, or we should trust NBC, or we should trust the New York Times. Surely they're giving us the straight dope. But you don't get to do that because you don't know where these people are coming from. With a talk show host, you get to know intimately day in and day out, and more than that, you get to call us on it when we get it wrong. You get to call us on it when we get it wrong, and we won't stay here very long if we keep getting it wrong.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeff, I thank you. I always appreciate your perspective, and I look forward to the rest of a great show with you Yanks.
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Speaker 1: Man, I really appreciate it. Sounds like you're in a good place today. May you continue to stay there and grow to get to an even better place, even with it so hot outside. All right, I have other people on hold. Let me do my culture and economy update, and we will take your calls when we come back. You know a good example of this, By the way, look how much attention Nick Christoff's scandal of a story is in the op ed section about rape, saying things that no one with an IQ of eighty could even possibly believe. And how much attention the New York teams gave to a serious report, a serious report that took years to put together with thousands of sources. That is exquisitely, as I say documented. Think about that contrast when you think about what the media wants you to believe. We'll be right back. Welcome back to the Seth Liebson Show. John dom Prowski brings us our culture and economy update. He is the president and founder of Grand Canyon Planning Associates Grand Canyon Planning dot com the website to reach out to him or see what Grand Canyon Planning can do for you. Happy Tuesday, John, How.
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Speaker 2: Are you, hey, Seth?
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Speaker 3: What's going on?
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Speaker 1: Well? I have a few questions for you, as only you can answer. First, tell me how the markets look today, the little balancing out. Yeah, Hey, a.
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Speaker 5: Little bit of a mixed market today. We did see the market pull back up. We're down quite a bit this morning, but I gave you know, pull caught its way back a little bit to Dow closed up a few points SMP and the NASDAK lower. But yeah, we had a little bit of a consumer price nd EX it came out today which was a little higher than.
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Speaker 1: Expected, a little higher than we wanted it.
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Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, three point eight percent year over year for April, which is up from three.
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Speaker 3: Point three in March.
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Speaker 5: And you know, that kind of is trickling down to some of the other areas of the market, some of the consumables here, and so we're seeing a little bit of a spike.
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Speaker 3: Is it.
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Speaker 5: Is it something that's going to be long lasting? I mean, I don't know, but you know, there's of course right away people talking about the FED maybe hiking rates instead of cutting rates. But it's all too premature to say it's just one month.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's exactly right, It's exactly right, one month. We've had years that averaged out in sixes and sevens within the past five years. So yeah, let's be grateful for where it is right now. One of the things that was driving it is I understand it, were energy prices, gas prices, yes.
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Speaker 3: Sure, yes.
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Speaker 1: And one of the things I have been wondering about is at what point can the press or for that matter, certain governors start taking seriously the notion that productivity and growth is going to require energy and that means people driving to get to work and driving to get to buy things, and thus maybe putting a little bit of a suspension or in some cases cut to the gas taxes.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Now the president may need an Act of Congress. I'm not sure certain states may need legislative but man, they can move fast when they want to. California is a seventy one cents a gallon, for example.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're they're they're the highest, right when it comes to their gasoline tax. You know, then Illinois at sixty six.
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Speaker 3: Percent, Washington.
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Speaker 5: You know, I was surprised not to see Arizona in that top ten because Arizona gas prices seem hier that.
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Speaker 1: They do seem in a lot of areas. That's a difference.
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Speaker 3: But you're right when.
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Speaker 5: It comes to this tax, it's the president. I was listening to Word the other day and question was asked to him about it, and he yeah, he says, I would like to see, you know, this suspend the gay attacks for some period of time basically, and whether or not he needs congressional approval or not. That's that's a question, I guess. But if they could do that, that's certainly in some fashion. You know, when we saw the spike in gas prices under the Biden administration, what they did is they went to the strategic oil and started you.
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Speaker 3: Know, pulling from that.
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Speaker 5: But and then of course it never got refilled, which I think it needs to be refilled. But yeah, cutting the gas tacks, I'm all for it if we can do it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And the federal part is not the highest given some of these states, right, the federal part is not what does I think eighteen eighteen cents?
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Speaker 3: Eighteen cents?
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Speaker 1: All right, So I mean, let's let's look to California. Let's we're in Arizona. What we're in the twenties? I think, aren't we? I think we're somewhere in the twenties. Yeah, the federal part is not the hard party. So you know, governors can use emergency powers. I should think.
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Speaker 5: I would hope that's the use it for other things.
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Speaker 3: They hope to do it for this, you know, and it may be short lived.
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Speaker 5: Right, because if the conflict could, you know, look some type of a conclusion in the next few months, then then we would you know that gas tax could be Yeah, seventy four days.
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Speaker 1: It's not forever. I am amazed by people's weird, weird use of calendars and clocks. Seventy four days is not forever.
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Speaker 5: Right, And you know, the market pulled back a little on this news today with the inflation numbers, right, that's pretty standard. I mean, the market has been on such a rally over here for the last month that it's a fairly historic rally that we've seen here. And you know, in looking at the numbers, the corporate earnings and the other statistics that we're looking.
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Speaker 3: At, there may still be room for.
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Speaker 5: This market to continue to go higher, even though we have this little bit of inflation right pressure. So I encourage people to, uh, you know, if you're working with your advisor, certainly.
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Speaker 3: Stick to your advisor's advice.
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Speaker 5: If you're not working with some month, please feel free to pick up the phone and call me. You go to our website at Grand Canyon Planning dot com. Thank you, John, you bet as always Seth check out our web's Grant Canyon plenty com. Securities and advisory services off the Creative One Securities LLC. A member of the Best Advisor, Grand Canyon, Plenty Associates llsee and create one Securities was not affiliated.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Thanks John Toxon. Welcome back to the Seth Leapson Show. With the heat here. You you want to call Client Heating and Cooling. You don't want to be caught unprepared, and you want them for the cooling. Obviously, I know Client Heating and Cooling very well. Mister Klein is a good man. You can trust and rely on him. They have flat rate pricing, no surprise up charges. They install train rude carry on other HVAC units. They will service all makes and all sizes. They will do residential, they will do commercial. Check them out at Cline Heatingcooling dot com, k L e I N Cline Heating Cooling dot Com. Some companies will sell you a new system when you don't really need one. Incline, they'll do a free in home comprehensive analysis so you get the right solution at the right price. Cline Heatingcooling dot Com, Tom and Phoenix, thank you for your patience, sir, Hi.
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Speaker 4: Hi, Hello Seth. I'm a first time caller, longtime listener.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 4: I was I was listening to your monologue and I'm not disputing what you said about declining church enrollment, but I just wanted to possibly throw in some good news in that in that arena, and that is that in the ancient Church, the Orthodox, in the Catholic Church, there is explosive growth going on in the ancient churches right now beyond what anybody that I know has ever seen in our lifetimes. And I just wanted to inject that little bit of positive because, as an earlier caller said, there's so much negative, and that's all I really wanted to add.
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Speaker 1: No, that's I hope you're right. I mean, I hope you're right.
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Speaker 2: David.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to invite you to join me in on this conversation because you and I were part of a call earlier this week that discussed some of this. And there is an overall church decline if you'll allow me to include every every denomination that considers itself to be Christian. In fact, the statistic that you will you will find amazing is that more people have left the church in the last twenty five years then joined it in the first grade awakening, the second grade away and every Billy Graham, Cruise, Sade combined now from what I understand about the statistics I read on this. When it comes to Catholic Church attendance, the Catholic Church is still experiencing losses, but at a slower rate, at a lower rate than some of the other denominations. Does that sound right to you or does that sound wrong to you?
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Speaker 4: That sounds wrong to me. For example, the Catholic Organization at ASU came out this year and said that they don't even know where all these kids are coming from. It's just absolutely unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: It makes me happy. I want more people to go. That makes me happy.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm Orthodox, and you know, very few people even know about the Orthodox religion. And I just happen to have had lunch with my priests today and we currently have one hundred and thirty nine Categhumans and we just baptize thirty six new church members over Pasca or the Eastern Easter. So yeah, no, and everyone that I know in the Catholic circles, they're all seated in their churches.
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Speaker 1: Well, that makes me happy to hear. And maybe maybe your anecdotes are more substantive than what I've been reading statistically, David, do you recall any part of the conversation we were part of on Monday that I do waste in on some of this go ahead, I do, and.
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Speaker 6: We got to speak with some great minds as part of Salem's wide variety of talking hosts, and we're discussing what happens when the young men look to go somewhere where they can be affirmed for their masculinity and their role in which they see that the Bible is giving to them, and they're not getting that from some of your more should I say, Eastern establishment Protestant denominations, and so naturally they're going to be turning to Orthodox Catholicism and denominations like sixteen to eighty nine Baptists who are extremely affirming of certain things like gender and gender roles and what we would call creation order.
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Speaker 1: One of the things I understand too, Tom, Thanks for that, David. One of the things I understand too, Tom, is that the more rigorous the church, the more retension and the more interest.
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Speaker 2: So.
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Speaker 1: Didn't we also see, David, refresh my memory if I get this wrong, and I don't want to be wrong. Didn't we also see in the Protestant some question about the more reform oriented which means something different than it does and Judaism. But the more reform, the more seriously scriptural, the better the retention rate than some Yeah, there's somewhat of an exception. Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, Well, Tom, I hope you're right. I mean, I hope you're right. My reading was that the Catholic Church was not immune. It was just doing a little bit better, or maybe even substantially better, but not immune from declines. I hope you're right. I hope you're right. And look, I still agree with Ben Shapiro who famously said last year, if there was one thing he could do to improve our civilization, what would it be? And he said, tell more people to go to church. Amen, yeah, you know that would be. That would be. How did William Bennett used to put it? He says, if you could give me stronger churches, stronger schools, and stronger families, I will give you back ninety five percent of what else society. But let's start with the churches, which might be easier, might be easier to repair than the schools and the families in this country might be. And they might drive the repair of the schools and families.
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Speaker 4: And to and to David's point, that's what a lot of these people that are going back to the ancient churches are looking for is that hierarchy, is the whole gender situation and so on, because you know, it's just not tolerated in the old churches and stuff. And so that's what a lot of people that are coming back and not coming back, but coming to the ancient churches, that's what they're talking about. That they're just sick and tired.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 1: They're not looking for what you saw at the National Cathedral on Inauguration Day, right, They're not looking.
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Speaker 4: For that, right, No, they're and they're tired of the of the loud rock style music and stuff.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 4: They they want that that solemn worship again, that that deepening of their of their worst. So but thank you for taking my call.
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Speaker 1: Well, thanks for being a first time caller, Tom, don't be a stranger. As you can see, it's perfectly the water's perfectly fine.
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Speaker 2: Here.
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Speaker 4: I'm very comfortable.
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Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, there you go, all right? Good. Maybe not as comfortable as church, but we were pretty easy with our listeners and callers, aren't we. We try, We try, we try. I encourage I mean someone told me one of the few shows in town that takes live calls. And I don't know whether that's true or not, but to the degree it may have any truth to it, I welcome it. The more the better. I have so much joy in conversing with so many, in fact, anyone who wants to challenge me or add to anything I said. It gives me joy that people care. I get this sense in society generally that some of the darker corners people go to in the UH, on their computers or in their screen time or elsewhere is because people aren't listening and talking to them or taking them seriously. I will, I'll do it. I'm here for that. Six zero two fifty eighty nine to sixty.
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Speaker 2: Be right back.
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Speaker 7: Well seth, It's good to hear your voice. Be a phone anyway. You know who this is? Right? Would Jesus ask are you listening on Saturdays?
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Speaker 2: Oh?
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Speaker 1: Because I see you in the hallways here sometimes do I not?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 7: Sometimes listen. I want to say thank you for some of your stories. We do not get to listen to you every day. But being a Baptist preacher's daughter from Kentucky, I wanted to say I just wanted to get in on this a little bit.
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Speaker 2: We go to Northwest.
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Speaker 7: Community Church forty third Avenue between Bell and Greenway, and our services we are running probably six hundred to seven hundred on a Sunday morning, but there's fifteen hundred students there at a Christian school behind the church. And I was out all day long talking to people about God. And they were telling me they were Christians. I'm thankful for that. So listen, God, bless you and David, and thank you again for just how long have you been.
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Speaker 1: Involved in How long? Christy? If I might, how long have you been involved with that church?
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Speaker 7: I have been involved with the church two years. Uh huh, But I've been I've been in church. Well, let's put this back. I've been back with God about thirty four years.
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Speaker 1: Have you noticed demographic changes? Have you noticed upticks and attendance or down ticks or rises or follows?
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Speaker 3: We're up, You're up, we are up, good, big time good.
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Speaker 7: Yes, a lot of young people, and truth is they are they're wanting to get out from this gender idegy.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of that, by the way, Christy, just on that point, do you notice that you're up with young men or young women or both.
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Speaker 3: Both?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Interesting, both, A.
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Speaker 7: Lot of Mary, A lot of young couples getting married, having children, raising their children in the church. I have thirteen grandchildren, and all thirteen and my grandchildren are in church. Bless you, I blast we're blessed so well, we're.
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Speaker 1: Blessed for having them be so and for having them as your grandmother and moral instructor, or at least moral example, if not instructor or maybe both. I mean, we're all blessed by that, and I think we all have to think of our ourselves that way. We all have to think of ourselves as being a partner in the repair of society. And you know what's nice about what's nice about the solution of church or for that matter, synagogue, and going regularly doesn't cost anything, doesn't cost anything. That's what's wonderful about it. Some of the best things, don't Thank you, Christy. We'll be right back
