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Stephen Heckman and Zachary Bucklew recap the Orioles’ recent sweep, Blaze Alexander’s left hand injury, and the start of the All-Star break while turning their focus to the team’s draft haul.
Zachary Bucklew joins as the draft and prospect specialist.
The hosts highlight a pitcher-heavy draft with an unusually large number of high school picks compared to past Elias-era classes. Victor Salazar is confirmed as an outfielder and the first-round choice surprised some fans. Eric Booth Jr. drew comparisons to Enrique Bradfield Jr. and raised health and development questions. Zach and Stephen debate whether Elias truly controlled the draft or if someone else ran it behind the scenes. They note several college arms and debate how college ERAs can be misleading. The conversation touches on signability, overslotting, and trade value for certain picks.
Key players discussed include Ty Head, Dominic Voegele, Ross Davis, Zane Adams, Kevin Roberts Jr., Jimmy Anderson, and Carlos Sanchez. Each selection is placed in context of the system’s current strengths and weaknesses. Ross Norman and other pitchers without big strikeout numbers are singled out as concerns.
The hosts stress development and coaching alignment from rookie ball to the majors as essential for prospects to translate skills upward. They argue consistent coaching philosophies and better communication between levels will help players adjust and reduce confusion. Examples include pitchers needing refined secondary offerings and hitters needing clearer swing approaches.
Several draftees resemble current minor-league players, prompting questions about redundancy in the system. Injuries and signability remain recurring worries for early-round high school picks. Jackson Holliday and other recent top picks are used as context for pacing and expectation management.
Overall grade for the draft is a C+, reflecting a mixed approach that answers some needs but raises concerns about too many similar profiles and a high school-heavy strategy. The group appreciates the added pitching depth but wishes for more balance in college-versus-high-school choices. They plan to reassess the class in a few years once prospects develop.
Stephen and Zach also discuss the July sign deadline, likely unsigned draftees, and how overslotting can free money to target priority signees. They note teams often use picks as trade capital and that this draft could generate future trade opportunities.
The episode wraps with a reminder to follow coverage at The Baltimore Battery and watch for Zach’s deeper prospect write-ups and the site’s upcoming mid-month prospect piece.
Check TheBaltimoreBattery.com for full draft coverage and the Final Strike podcast for more analysis.
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What is going on, Bertland? Stephen Heckman here for the Baltimore Battery coming
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to you with the Final Strike program.
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And we have Zachary Bucklow here today with us after the Baltimore Orioles have
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kicked off the draft for the weekend, and they carried their first four-game
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winning streak of the season, eighth time's the charm.
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Baltimore Orioles swept the Kansas City Royals today with a score of 8-2,
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so good news on that front.
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Only bad news coming out of the game is Blaise Alexander did break his left
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hand later on in the game, so unfortunately we will probably lose him with a
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non-displaced fracture for approximately six to eight weeks.
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We'll wait for further tests to see what the final say is on that,
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but we are not here to talk about that because the All-Star break is now officially underway.
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We are here to talk about the Baltimore Orioles draft, and we have brought in
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our draft day specialist and our prospect specialist, Zachary Bucklow, to discuss that.
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Zachary, welcome aboard. Would you like to introduce yourself once again to
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our lovely, adoring fans out in Birdland?
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Absolutely. Hi, my name is Zach. I am the prospect analyst for the Baltimore
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Battery. I've been doing it for four years now. Jeez, time flies, doesn't it?
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Um but yeah i've been doing it for four years and yeah just been the guy to
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go to when it comes to prospects or drafts and just been keeping my eye closely
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on things as things keep rolling.
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We definitely like what you do here and we're glad to have you aboard and.
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Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Definitely. One of the big things going on this
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weekend is the, uh, draft. And of course, Baltimore Orioles had the seventh
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pick in the draft going into this year.
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And everybody has their ideas on where we should go, what we should do,
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how we should be, because one of the fun things about being a fan of baseball
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is being the armchair GM for the Baltimore Orioles. And, uh,
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I don't know. I can't honestly say I had a feel on what I think we should have
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done. All I know is I wanted to have a pitcher-heavy draft because I feel that's
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the one area we have never really fully approached under the Elias regime.
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And so far.
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We just drafted a guy, Victor Salazar. I don't know what his position is yet.
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I know, Emily. What is the position?
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So far, going into this most recent draft pick, We had picked 10 pitchers in
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the draft of the 18 picks, depending on what this pick is, which is kind of
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what I'm intrigued about.
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So what are your thoughts on that? And how did you think this was going to lay
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out before we start getting into the player analysis?
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I'm really intrigued because, like, you know, obviously day one,
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we had four rounds and we went three different outfielders into including two
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outfielders. who I already compared to outfielders that we have now in the system.
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But then you get more and more and you're like, all right, we want a lot of
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pitchers. We want a lot of righties.
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We had the one lefty in Zane Adams. We had possibly the lefty in Victor Salazar
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or whenever we find out what position he plays.
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But we went very right-heavy draft, which surprised me a little bit.
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Because I'm like, because we have the righties. Lefties are nice too.
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But we were talking earlier a lot of high school kids a lot of high school kids
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which is not the Elias way,
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in previous drafts no definitely not like looking at his 2025 draft we had Slater
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DeBrum was out of high school,
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Jaden Luray was out of high school and.
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Cole Johnson who didn't sign was out of high school oh and Connor Geert,
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20 rounds, I don't remember how many picks we had, or 24 picks in 20 rounds
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and four high schoolers.
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But now we get into this year, and our first overall pick of the draft was out of high school.
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Our fourth round pick's out of high school. Our eighth round pick's out of high school.
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Our 12th round pick is out of high school. Our 16th pick is out of high school.
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Our 18th pick is out of high school. And then our 19th pick is out of high school as well.
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So why out of nowhere the very high school heavy draft?
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Victor Salazar is an outfielder, by the way. Just to let you know.
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I was hoping with him being 5'11".
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Yeah, I'd hate to see a pitcher of 5'11". But I've been proven wrong before
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with those small pitchers.
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It's definitely, we were talking about that before we came on,
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is the amount of high school kids. Because that is something that...
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We're not used to seeing with Elias. Elias has always been one to champion college kids.
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Every now and then he will sprinkle in a high school kid here and there,
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but usually it's not his forte to draft kids that young.
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And, you know, Jackson Holliday is an exception to that rule.
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With his age, I mean, he's, what, he's just now 22.
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He was 19 when we drafted him. So, you know,
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you don't see him drafting many kids who are in their teens outside of coming
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from the Dominican Republic and, you know, Dominican and Cuban leagues.
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So, what do you think changed in the aspect of that?
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Is this something you believe Elias changed? Or is this something that,
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you know, something you and me were kind of discussing before we came on too?
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Is this a foretelling of somebody else running the draft other than Elias?
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I think it's a mix of both, if that makes sense. Because, like,
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I'm thinking he's been going what he thinks is best available.
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But he's also trying to build a little more because obviously the big question
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moving on after the all-star break is, are we buyers? Are we sellers?
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Are we going through another 2021 rebuild?
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Are we possibly bringing kids in? Well, kids, 17, 18 year olds to come in and
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we're using that as a chance to rebuild.
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Another thought process that i had is something that me and you talked about
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over the offseason when the same boss trade happened and a lot of players that were that were selected.
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And you said sometimes the pick is more so of value than need exactly is that a possibility yeah,
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is the idea of, say, Kevin Roberts Jr.
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We got him at 110. He was ranked by Pipeline at 136. He's a 6'5 outfielder.
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He can hit. He can run. Was that an idea of trading for the future instead of trading for need?
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Good way of putting it, and that's true. How are we stacking it up in that aspect?
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Is that the outlook that we're putting because we have been,
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one of the criticisms of Elias is we have been prone to holding on to prospects
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and not getting value for them,
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which has possibly cost us in our growth over the last couple years.
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And might be one of the reasons why our team per se underperformed.
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I don't believe we could say underperformed because some of the asking prices
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that these teams were asking when it eventually comes out were a little bit steep.
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And based off what we're looking at, like when we look at the McKenzie-Gore
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trade, what was Texas gave up for them when we look at our pipeline at what
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we would have been giving up?
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The prospects that we would have been giving up were in no comparison. Right.
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Value-wise to what Texas gave up. Our prospects were valued a little bit better,
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than what Texas gave up. So...
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You've got to take into factor that when you have a farm system that's one of
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the better farm systems and you compare it to a farm system that's one of the bottom farm systems,
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a number 10 pick for us compared to a number 10 pick for the bottom,
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a bottom farm system does not have the same value. 100%.
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You can't compare that in a trade. Right.
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And that's one of the things that I think a lot of people fail to look at.
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Like with Mackenzie Gore, the four players that were traded for him,
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when you brought that up and you compared them to what our prospects were compared
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to the system that Texas had.
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It was nowhere close. I mean, we would have been able to get Mackenzie Gore
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for two of our prospects compared to what Texas gave up.
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Right it was i have the trade up right here but like the big name was gavin
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fien who gavin fien was ranked,
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is it still here is it gone it's gone he was ranked like top eight i want to say in 2025.
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Um but he was also the 12th overall pick just a few months earlier the trade
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happened in january he was the 12th ish i want to say the 12th overall pick
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i remember correctly He had a 12th overall pick in 2025.
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So he's going to have a little more higher value. It's a 19-year-old that's
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coming out of high school who was just highly rated.
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Same thing would happen, like I said, with Shane Boz.
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I bet you Slater DeBrun is not in that trade. That trade never happens. Exactly. Yeah.
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And Gavin Feene was a name that everybody was talking about heading up until that July draft.
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But if we throw in our 2025 pick, in...
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Ike Irish, it doesn't compare. No. Because Irish at 19 was considered a steal.
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He was. Exactly. So that's my thing with it.
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And you take the growth. I mean, Ike Irish's growth has been tremendous.
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I was fortunate. Jared and me were fortunate to see him play in Delmarva.
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And I think you've seen him play a couple times, haven't you?
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Not live. Not live? Okay. No, once. I'm sorry. I was at the Keys game.
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Okay. So, I mean, he really does have potential. He's got a strong bat.
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He's definitely not going to be a catcher for us. So, I do see him probably
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developing into a decent first baseman.
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I'm not so sure. Maybe a fourth outfielder at best. Yeah.
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He's definitely not going to be a catcher. Now, we were fortunate to see the
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other catcher we drafted, excuse me, my catch, deciding to make me his... catchery.
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The catcher we drafted in the same draft with Ike Irish. I can't think of his
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name off the top of my head. Caden Bodine.
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Yeah, Caden Bodine. We saw him at the same time play in the same game,
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and that kid, he's got a lot of potential.
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Defensively, watching him behind the plate, he has got a lot of potential,
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and the one thing the Orioles are never short on in our farm system Miss catchers,
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which we only drafted one this, this draft, which I was shocked.
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It was only one, um, so far we still got one more round, but still the fact
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that we've gone as far as we have, and it took until the 12th round for us to
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draft a catcher was shocking. Um,
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You know, he's probably the next best prospect catching-wise that we've got
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behind your favorite guy, Creed.
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So it'll be interesting to see what, you know, Leo Marrero, if I'm saying his
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name right, he's out of high school, you know, what he's going to be bringing to the table.
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Yeah I mean well we talked about the Gore trade real quickly Gavin Feen is not
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even a top 100 prospect and he's ranked eighth in the system he's behind Harry
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Ford who's been in the system since I was in college and I graduated two years ago,
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like he was a first round pick back in 2021 and he's still rated higher than
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arguably the biggest name in the Mackenzie Gore trade,
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But back to what you talked about with catchers, you look at our farm system,
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Creed's a catcher. We got rid of Bodine.
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You still got Ethan Anderson. Miguel Rodriguez has looked really good in Delmarva.
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Ryan Stafford is an underrated catcher, in my opinion.
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You still have enough catchers to where you can build it up a little bit.
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You can always throw Ike Irish behind the plate if you have to.
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I know he's been used more as an outfielder who played in the Future Stars game today, by the way.
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Him and DeZerwa looked really decent from my understanding.
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I had to miss the game. But another year of...
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Well, I wasn't going to bring this part up, but that's another year that we
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had a picture. What did you have? Future's game.
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Yeah. We keep sending pictures to the Future's game. Now if we can just keep
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the picture with us to develop into Oriole would be great.
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We tried that. We shipped him to Los Angeles for Taylor Ward.
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Yeah, well, he's back on the IL, so it kind of worked in our favor.
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Unfortunately. Hate to say it, but I had all the hope and best wishes for Grayson,
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but sadly, it's not going to work for us. Anyway,
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let's dive into the first four rounds of the draft were yesterday.
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Our first pick Eric Booth Jr. out of Oak Grove High School that was kind of
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shocking we used to first round draft pick on a high school player,
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another EBJ ironically laughing.
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Drew Burris is right there. So, I'll admit, I was driving when this pick happened.
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So, I wasn't on my phone and didn't see it until I pulled into my driveway. And,
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I almost screamed in the car. Because, one, you already had a big reach in Zion
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Rose going to the Royals.
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And I'm like, I don't mind Eric Booth, to a point.
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But Drew Burris is right there. AJ Gracia is right there.
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And my other thing that I don't understand, the two big shortstops that are
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not Rock Chalowski and Grady Emerson in Jacob Lombard and Justin LeBron fell deeper.
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And those are two that you can put behind Griffo Farrell behind.
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Aaron Estrada who plays a little bit short you can put him behind these shortstops
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to take over at some point and you take a like I said Eric Booth is solid I'm
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not completely overall upset with the pick,
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but you already have an EBJ,
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you just drafted another EBJ and if he doesn't stay healthy it's gonna fall apart again,
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What's interesting about this kid is they say it could be the steal of the first round.
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And yet when I sit here and look at some of the things they say about him,
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very similar to Enrique Bradfield Jr.
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Right. He was,
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he was recruited to Vanderbilt, ironically. Base stealing instincts need to be improved upon.
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Reads and routes in center field need to be improved upon.
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His biggest weakness in his game is working to improve his arm strength and his batting average.
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All things that were very similar to what Enrique Bradfield Jr.
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Had going into his freshman year at Vanderbilt and coming out into the 17th
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pick of the draft by the Baltimore Orioles.
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So we literally are staring at the mirror of another player that we have in
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our farm system except the high school version of him.
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Right and my other thing that goes with it is we talked about having a pitcher heavy draft,
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Cameron Flukie Liam Peterson both names that I've talked about that are also
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right there that you let slide to AL central teams,
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including Cameron Flukie who you let slide to Detroit which we know is a good
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place that develops pitching,
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strong pitching at that,
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that's that's the thing that frustrates me is Elias is bound and determined,
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not to draft a pitcher in the first round.
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It's just, he will not do it no matter what.
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The first round is not a place to get a pitcher that's been an Elias thing since.
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He's been the GM. Well, now he's vice president of baseball operations.
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But, you know, it's pretty much been the same thing since he's been running the team.
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And, you know, this is something we kind of touched on before we came on the
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air is I personally, and I've talked about this with a couple people outside of,
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this,
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This is, I honestly don't believe that.
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Elias is the GM. I think he's got somebody running the GM spot.
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And towards the end of the season or winter, we're going to find out that they've
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been running it already during the season.
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And I have my idea of who it could be, which I told you.
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Offline I'm not going to go ahead and announce it yet Right Oh look we drafted
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another high schooler For the 20th pick Yeah Ross Davis just waiting for a position.
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Um, so I think that's, that's going to be the big surprise in the off season
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is we're going to find out that we had a GM,
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that had been in place all season and it was never announced until the end of
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the season, which you don't have to announce those type of moves until the beginning
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or end of the season anyway.
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Right. Especially if it's a person that's training for the position who,
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if anybody's anybody and paid attention to Orioles front office moves within
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the last year, the person was already training in that position last year anyway. Right.
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And if anybody's paid attention to the Orioles over the past three or four years,
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there's an outspoken former Oriole who has yet to say anything about the Orioles this year at all.
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So, take that with a grain of salt.
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That's who I think our GM is going to be and is currently probably running things right now.
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As a general manager. And I think we're going to see more of that,
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and I think that's probably why Elias is front and center on things while the
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other one is actually doing the work. Right.
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So, what do you think of our second pick? Ty Head from North Carolina.
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I like Ty Head. I think the problem that is going to be seen is the counting stats, as I call it.
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He only batted .279 in college. I know the agenda is if you're not batting .300
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in college, it's whatever.
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Reminder, .447 on base, .913 OPS, 105 walks to 50 strikeouts in his college career.
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That's pretty damn impressive numbers. Doubled the amount of walks to strikeouts.
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.447 on base percentage? You're getting on base 44% of the time you're at bat.
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That's pretty damn impressive. Yeah.
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931 slugging percentage, that means you're hitting the ball and hitting it with
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authority when you're putting it in play.
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They're not cheap shots. They're not singles. They're doubles, triples, and home runs.
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And 26 stolen bases. Shots need two.
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That's what they're saying with Booth. They're saying Booth has the ability
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to have power of 20-25 home runs and with the ability to steal bases that he
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could eventually be a 30-30 guy with the proper training.
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So first two picks, you're talking possibly 20 home run power from both of them? Right.
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What about Dominic, is it Vogel? I think it's Vogel. Okay.
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From Kansas. Yeah, I don't pay attention to Kansas, to be honest with you. But I think it's Vogel.
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And this is where, this is another conversation. People are going to see that 585 ERA and get scared.
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Because it's 585 ERA over 97 innings. and a .522 ERA in his collegiate career in 274 innings.
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But I want to use an example of a current Cy Young winner that dominates with
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Detroit and Tariq Skubal.
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When he was drafted out of Seattle University his final year, he had a .486 ERA.
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College is harder to hold an ERA, in my opinion, because it also depends on where you play.
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Kansas is in the Big 12.
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TCU, Baylor. It's a very tough conference, especially since the Pac-12 has disbanded.
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Some are in the SEC, some are in the Big 12, some are in the Big 10.
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It all depends on where you're at in the conference.
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You're playing at Kansas. You're going to play Big 12 competition.
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You're going to play top prospects.
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You're going to play young freshmen that are going to turn into top prospects.
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It's going to inflate your ERA.
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Ross Davis is a pitcher, by the way. Oh, let's go. Another pitcher. Yep.
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The other thing I'll throw into that, college pitchers do have a little bit
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more of a difficult time in college. In college, you're either a pitcher who
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completely misses that bat or misses bats, or your pitcher's going to get hit.
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Aluminum bats tend to give pop to the ball, so the ball's either going to fly
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out of the ballpark or you're just going to deaden the ball when it hits the
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bat, depending on how fast you can throw.
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That's why the likes of people like Steven Strasburg looked so amazing in college
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and came up, and not that he wasn't a good pitcher, but he was not the pitcher he was in college.
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So you've got to take pitching with a grain of salt when it comes to what you
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see in college, because like Jonathan Rocker, you know, those pitchers that
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dominate college are not always going to be the same pitchers come time in the big leagues.
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Pitchers who struggle sometimes in college become the better pitchers in the
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big leagues and the pitchers who dominate college and come in to be average
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pitchers in big league times.
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Those aluminum bats change how a pitcher can approach a game because...
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An aluminum bat is not solid.
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Right. It's air in the middle of it. So you can swing an aluminum bat a little
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bit easier versus a solid wood bat.
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So movement on a ball, you can get around quicker with an aluminum bat than
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with a solid wood bat. So when you have pits that is breaking left to right,
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or north to south, you can make that adjustment a lot quicker.
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With a wooden bat, you don't have the ability to do that as well.
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So a lot of these pitchers who throw sliders and two seamers more or cutters and sinkers,
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tend to be better pitchers in the big leagues than the pitchers who come in
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throwing 98, 99-mile-per-hour fastballs.
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That's why pitchers such as Gracer Rodriguez can hit the big leagues,
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and I'm only picking on him because he was throwing 100 miles an hour at one
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point and can't dominate with his fastball in the big leagues.
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Dylan Bundy. Yep, Dylan Bundy. Great. That's a great, great one.
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You can't Kevin Gosman early in his career. Until Kevin Gosman learned that
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you can use a two-seamer and a cutter and a sinker.
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You can't blow a fastball by these guys. These guys are sitting on it,
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and they're used to hitting 99 and 100-mile-per-hour pitches.
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Yeah. Got to develop secondary pitches. That's what makes Trevor Rodgers so dangerous when he's on.
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His fastball tops out at 93, 94 miles an hour.
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But because his cutter and his sinker and his two-seamer are so dangerous,
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he can use his fastball as a deceptive pitch by using those pitches to set it up.
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It's the same thing with Chris Bassett in a way, with that sinker.
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Yeah. Because when Bassett's sinker is on, it's disgusting. It is.
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And we're talking about college pictures that can fail. There's some that have
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turned out fine that have been top picks.
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We're seeing it now in Pittsburgh with Paul Skeens.
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Obviously, number one overall pick and is still dominant to this day and needs
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to get out of Pittsburgh, but that's a whole different conversation.
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But you look at some of the top prospects, if you go back, well,
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like Casey Mize out of Auburn was supposed to be this big deal.
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Unfortunately, injuries also hurt him, but didn't really turn into anything special yet.
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Things could turn with him. He's still young enough.
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There's plenty of college pitchers that you look and their ERA looks inflated,
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especially, and we'll talk about this when we get to him, if we go that far,
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especially if you're in the SEC.
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Quick update from Steve Maluski. Final tallies for the Baltimore Orioles in
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the draft, just real quick.
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Orioles drafted 11 pitchers, 9 position players of the pitchers, 10 righties, 1 lefty.
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We took 12 from college, 8 from high school. Selected 11 pitchers,
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1 catcher, 3 infielders, 4 outfielders, 1 utility.
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Interesting stat, from 2019 to 2025, we drafted 48.4% pitchers.
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In this draft alone, we drafted 55% pitchers. Something changed. Yep.
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Something definitely changed. And once again, I'll go back to,
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I don't think Elias was running this draft.
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My only fear is I'm really hoping that they're not seeing how development is
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with the pitchers we have from the 2025 draft and think that's the answer.
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Because that's not going to happen every single year. No. You're not going to
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have the Joseph DeZerwa, JT Quinn, Caden Hunters,
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and even Brayden Sloan of players that you've drafted as a pitcher and they've done a complete 180.
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DeZerwa is the top lefty in our system. JT Quinn has looked really solid for
00:30:34.876 --> 00:30:37.328
someone that didn't even pitch at all after being drafted.
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I mean, y'all hear me talk about Caden Hunter all the time. And then Braden
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Sloan, who I haven't even talked about, was a 17th round pick.
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And I think he could arguably be a top 100 prospect in two to three years.
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Well, what's bad is our best pitcher is not even pitching this year.
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Talking about Braxton Bragg? Yep. Yep.
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We probably won't even see him until next year. If they do it properly,
00:31:06.655 --> 00:31:07.961
we probably won't see him until next year.
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Yeah, he started throwing. I wouldn't be surprised if he does a random August
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thing with the Rookie Bowl team. Yeah.
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You might see him a couple times, but realistically, we're probably looking at next year. Probably.
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And you get him back to health. I mean, you're talking about,
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a number two pitcher easily for a rotation. Behind the air.
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If he continues to develop the way he was. Correct. But right now,
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you look at the Orioles, and I see a lot of people, and it's kind of funny,
00:31:45.845 --> 00:31:51.055
you see a lot of people on X, formerly Twitter, talking about how the Orioles
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need to get another starter, another starter. and.
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We don't need a starting pitcher. Right now, the Orioles have the fourth-best
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starting pitching over the last six weeks in the AL and seventh-best in the majors.
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You don't mess with that when it's working. We're going to be where we need
00:32:08.175 --> 00:32:12.732
the help, and right now, with some of the draft capital we have,
00:32:13.713 --> 00:32:17.805
we can definitely find a good lefty because more than likely,
00:32:17.805 --> 00:32:20.081
it looks like Keegan Aiken's going to be gone for the season.
00:32:21.306 --> 00:32:28.235
Um he's going to visit a surgeon tuesday uh helsley luckily is just inflammation
00:32:28.235 --> 00:32:30.993
but he's only put 17 games for us this year so,
00:32:32.344 --> 00:32:35.649
I'm not so worried about closer if we keep Wells back there right now.
00:32:35.649 --> 00:32:38.469
Wells is looking pretty good back there, which is where I thought he should
00:32:38.469 --> 00:32:39.607
have been all year anyway.
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But we do have some draft capital, and I'm sure we have a couple players that
00:32:44.899 --> 00:32:50.479
we drafted today and yesterday that some team might want.
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That's another beauty about the draft is there are teams that we got players
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that they're going to say, hey, hey, we wanted this guy. We'll give you this
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if you give us this, this, and this guy. Right.
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And like Zach was alluding to earlier, this is a conversation I think we had last year on the draft.
00:33:11.876 --> 00:33:20.599
Sometimes it's not about the need or the want, it's about the need because of
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what you intend to do with the draft play or with the pick.
00:33:25.489 --> 00:33:29.395
Right. I think baseball still needs to change it where you can trade draft picks.
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You can trade competitive balance picks. But you can't trade draft picks.
00:33:34.991 --> 00:33:39.095
Right. And we traded a competitive balance pick this year.
00:33:39.524 --> 00:33:42.619
Yeah, that's how we got Boz, the Wizard of Oz.
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And that turned into, what was it? CB, that's what I want, yeah.
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Turned into a shortstop from South Carolina, high schooler.
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And I'm sorry, I think Biles' pit's pretty well for us. He's gotten shorter
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than the stick a few times. Unfortunately, like today.
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The error by Blaze, which no fault to Blaze because he's a utility guy.
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He's playing different positions. But,
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I don't know where he was throwing that ball. But unfortunately,
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it extended the inning longer than it had to, affected Blaze's pitch count,
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which unfortunately, it's a trickle-down effect, which costs him innings.
00:34:24.204 --> 00:34:27.820
So, you know, those small little details, but we're not here to talk about that.
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We're here to talk about draft.
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All right, moving on, we're going to go down to Kevin Roberts Jr.
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Out of Jackson Prep High School.
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He's another one. The thing that impresses me, he's 6'5", and he can run.
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MLB Pipeline gave him a 60 speed. They gave him a 55 power.
00:34:51.853 --> 00:34:58.710
Now something I realized and this could have just been a website mix up or something
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but I put this in the article that came out yesterday about the draft stuff,
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the Jackson Prep baseball roster
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on their website has them listed as an outfielder and a pitcher that's.
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That's interesting because it'd be interesting. It looks like we drafted him as an outfielder.
00:35:27.995 --> 00:35:30.515
Remember we had that last year with a player we drafted.
00:35:35.375 --> 00:35:38.751
He was a third baseman and a pitcher, but we drafted him as a third baseman.
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We didn't draft a third baseman last year.
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It is second baseman. It was an infielder and a pitcher, but we drafted him.
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Who was it? Scott from North Carolina, if I remember correctly.
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The University of North Carolina or North Carolina in general?
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I think it's University.
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It might have been University of North Carolina, if I remember correctly. It's Carolina.
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But I think he was a pitcher and an infielder of some sort, but we drafted him
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as an infielder, not a pitcher. Actually, no. No.
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It was an outfielder. as the outfielder for North Carolina?
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Horvath? Oh, Matt Horvath from a few years ago.
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Was it a couple years ago? Yeah, because he was in the Dominguez trade in one
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of the trades that went to Philly.
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Yeah, that was 23, I think.
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I think he was after EBJ. Yeah. He was the second round pick in 23.
00:36:51.939 --> 00:36:57.285
Because he was both. He was listed as both, but we drafted him specifically
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as the outfielder. Right.
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He's with Tampa Bay now, so I'm trying to think, who did we get from Tampa Bay?
00:37:07.786 --> 00:37:09.969
Because he wasn't in the boss trade.
00:37:14.839 --> 00:37:18.375
I don't know, we trade so much with Tampa Bay, it's hard to remember them all. I know.
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Another guy could have played for Florida.
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We love our Gators. We do.
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Oh, he was in the Eflin train. Okay. With Etzel and Jackson Ballmeister.
00:37:45.657 --> 00:37:46.835
That actually makes sense.
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Yeah, because I remember when me and Justin did the commentary with Michael
00:37:56.776 --> 00:38:04.860
Marcantoni, he got to commentate Corvath's last ever Orioles home run. Okay.
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I'm not seeing anything about him being...
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Like I said, it could have been a website thing.
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Ah, here it goes. is utilized at times as a pitcher hitting mid-90s on the mound. Is that Roberts? Yeah.
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I was like, I was I was actually sitting at Camden Yards yesterday and was looking
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at it and was like, wait a minute, that says pitcher next to him.
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And then I looked and some of the others had it, but I'm also like it's high school.
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Sometimes they have just POs, sometimes they have position players that can also pitch if needed.
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But, I mean, You can also play for the Anfield. Wow.
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I saw a lot of, like, I think it was Joe Doyle.
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It's going to be a steal at 110.
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I mean, we literally, one of the things I know we like to do as a franchise,
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and this dates back to before Buck Showalter,
00:39:24.476 --> 00:39:30.752
we like our players to be able to play multiple positions, which I think benefits a player, period.
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Right. Because it gives them the ability to break into the big leagues quicker. Right.
00:39:38.333 --> 00:39:45.467
Kevin Roberts, with his frame, has the ability to be a good corner outfielder.
00:39:46.640 --> 00:39:51.600
But they say his biggest thing is he's got to stop chasing fastballs outside
00:39:51.600 --> 00:39:53.414
the zone and adjust to breaking balls.
00:39:54.210 --> 00:39:59.533
Now, what comes to mind is 6'5", chasing breaking balls.
00:40:02.310 --> 00:40:08.606
At that frame, that's a huge problem because... And it took,
00:40:11.027 --> 00:40:14.530
two years for them to realize that with Colton Couser, just threw breaking balls
00:40:14.530 --> 00:40:17.324
or change-ups to him, and you got him off his game.
00:40:17.620 --> 00:40:21.097
That's exactly why I chuckled a few seconds ago. I'm like, it's just Couser.
00:40:21.515 --> 00:40:28.255
It is. It's Couser. And that's what it is. It's just Couser.
00:40:30.150 --> 00:40:35.302
Couser went to work. Now, that's the thing. is Couser actually put in the work to adjust and become,
00:40:36.335 --> 00:40:41.500
a better player because of it, and he's grinded his way into this season and
00:40:41.500 --> 00:40:45.942
improved, but you still see some of the flaws come through here and there.
00:40:47.214 --> 00:40:52.270
But he has definitely improved his ability to hit secondary pitches.
00:40:52.665 --> 00:40:57.384
He's improved his ability to actually notice and pay attention to the strike zone.
00:40:57.831 --> 00:41:02.950
So it's not a slow it's not a quick process that you can actually teach a batter
00:41:02.950 --> 00:41:06.359
that one of the things that,
00:41:08.344 --> 00:41:13.970
they have provided players with that helps now is the indoor batting cages,
00:41:13.970 --> 00:41:18.470
but the virtual reality programs that they utilize now where you can actually
00:41:18.470 --> 00:41:20.649
simulate facing a pitcher.
00:41:24.672 --> 00:41:32.350
Which helps when you have inclement weather, but how it helps with you batting, I don't know.
00:41:34.297 --> 00:41:39.410
So what I'm seeing here is a lot of the players that we've drafted are very
00:41:39.410 --> 00:41:42.888
similar to a lot of the players we already have. Right.
00:41:43.782 --> 00:41:50.570
Outside the pitching combos. But, I mean, I'm looking at sizes and builds and,
00:41:51.270 --> 00:41:57.070
what they're pointing out as flaws, and there's a lot of similarities to players
00:41:57.070 --> 00:41:58.701
we already have, and it's just like,
00:41:59.235 --> 00:42:01.058
put them in the mirror. Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:02.770 --> 00:42:10.153
Yeah, because you can even discuss that with the next guy, the fifth-round pick. Jimmy Anderson.
00:42:10.675 --> 00:42:15.180
Jimmy Anderson. My thing with Jimmy Anderson is, you obviously liked something
00:42:15.180 --> 00:42:18.245
in him. 19th-round pick last year, didn't sign. Yep.
00:42:19.557 --> 00:42:24.800
Was one of three players that didn't sign. And he's a contact guy that can smack
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:30.755
doubles, knock in ribbies, walks a lot, and steals bags.
00:42:34.819 --> 00:42:42.087
Yep. Jackson Holliday. I was thinking Blaze. Oh, Blaze, yeah, that's true.
00:42:43.526 --> 00:42:49.796
That's what I was thinking. You know who else he kind of can sound like is Westberg
00:42:49.796 --> 00:42:53.458
before he kind of adjusted his game.
00:42:54.005 --> 00:42:59.612
Right, coming out of Mississippi State. Yeah, that's definitely who I would have.
00:43:02.740 --> 00:43:05.823
Now I know we're kind of just jumping around,
00:43:06.642 --> 00:43:10.416
but I'll even talk about the next one Zane Adams because I talked about the
00:43:10.416 --> 00:43:17.456
SEC pitching earlier he's 6'5 guy isn't he 6'8 no that's um he's 6'4 you're
00:43:17.456 --> 00:43:20.787
talking about Ross Norman who was drafted later he's 6'7,
00:43:23.074 --> 00:43:30.319
or Colin McKinney he's 6'5 from Alabama but or Arizona I'm sorry but Zane Adams,
00:43:33.466 --> 00:43:40.436
he stays at 93 miles an hour, between 92 to 94, has a changeup that's a high
00:43:40.436 --> 00:43:44.825
70s, low 80s, and a curveball around 85 to 87.
00:43:47.391 --> 00:43:53.411
It's Trevor Rogers. How are you 6'5 and have a fastball that maxes at 94?
00:43:54.938 --> 00:43:58.833
That's what Perfect Game College Baseball had on their tweet back in April.
00:44:02.724 --> 00:44:08.502
That just, at 6 foot, I was throwing 95 in 9th grade.
00:44:09.944 --> 00:44:12.734
There's something, somebody's got to do something with his mechanics.
00:44:12.734 --> 00:44:20.820
There's no reason he's maxing out at 94 at 6 foot 5. He should easily be in the upper 90s. Yeah.
00:44:22.344 --> 00:44:27.604
Something's wrong with his windup. Yeah. Sorry, I just. Yeah, you're good.
00:44:28.627 --> 00:44:31.754
But my thing is, he also, like, he gave up a lot of contact,
00:44:31.754 --> 00:44:33.704
But like I said before, it's the SEC.
00:44:34.496 --> 00:44:39.088
Yeah, you're facing the SEC where you basically have pro-style players.
00:44:39.349 --> 00:44:45.433
Yeah, and a lot of it came against Texas in the College World Series. Texas blew them up.
00:44:46.257 --> 00:44:49.584
Oh, Texas was phenomenal this year. Yeah, Texas blew them up.
00:44:50.286 --> 00:44:55.673
I can go back and look. I wouldn't be surprised if Georgia had something to do with it.
00:44:57.838 --> 00:45:02.128
Because Georgia is Georgia. Shout out, Jared. I was going to say, Georgia's just...
00:45:03.604 --> 00:45:07.827
You know, Jared's laughing in the background. Oh, 100%.
00:45:08.837 --> 00:45:12.512
Okay, he never went up against Georgia. He went up against Texas twice, though.
00:45:13.307 --> 00:45:19.356
And the first time, he shoved. Six innings, five hits, no earned runs, two walks, seven Ks.
00:45:20.087 --> 00:45:24.673
But then in the College World Series, one and two thirds, seven earned runs,
00:45:24.859 --> 00:45:26.548
three walks, two strikeouts.
00:45:28.296 --> 00:45:31.906
So my question then is was it the pressure or was it just a bad game,
00:45:33.816 --> 00:45:37.073
Looking at it, it was his worst game of the year.
00:45:37.317 --> 00:45:41.598
And he also went up against Oregon State, Kentucky, Florida,
00:45:41.998 --> 00:45:48.735
Auburn, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Vandy, South Carolina, St. John's.
00:45:50.285 --> 00:45:54.302
And that was his worst start, which was his last start of the year.
00:45:55.144 --> 00:45:58.441
So it could have very well just been too much pressure. Could have been nerves.
00:45:58.998 --> 00:46:03.235
Yeah. Because even when he went up against Vanderbilt, He gave up eight hits
00:46:03.420 --> 00:46:05.063
and didn't let a run score.
00:46:05.621 --> 00:46:09.198
Yeah, if you do that well against Vanderbilt, I mean, that's the team.
00:46:09.518 --> 00:46:12.488
If you're going to have a bad game, Vanderbilt's the game you're going to have it against.
00:46:13.208 --> 00:46:14.738
Yeah, and Vanderbilt was even
00:46:15.118 --> 00:46:19.727
not great this year. No, but even a bad Vanderbilt team's a good team.
00:46:20.618 --> 00:46:24.098
Yeah. I mean, that's like facing.
00:46:26.304 --> 00:46:29.055
North Carolina ACC on a bad year.
00:46:29.816 --> 00:46:37.531
Yeah. And like I've said in looking at it, he has done something different because
00:46:37.699 --> 00:46:42.703
his first year as a freshman, he had a 5.37 ERA in 58 innings.
00:46:44.050 --> 00:46:48.624
His second year, he had a 554, and then his junior year, he had a 458.
00:46:49.657 --> 00:46:53.796
And that was a 458 with more starts and a lot more innings.
00:46:55.317 --> 00:46:59.212
There's a 25-inning difference between his sophomore year and his junior year.
00:47:00.854 --> 00:47:06.248
He hasn't He's not a walk person So he had to have developed He had to improve
00:47:06.248 --> 00:47:08.841
his curveball And that change up.
00:47:11.361 --> 00:47:16.107
Most likely, yes. And coming into the majors, I can guarantee somebody's going
00:47:16.107 --> 00:47:17.909
to teach them a cutter or a slider.
00:47:19.697 --> 00:47:23.191
Preferably a cutter if you're throwing 93. Yeah.
00:47:24.120 --> 00:47:27.488
Well, if you're throwing 93, you definitely need to learn how to throw a two-seamer.
00:47:27.999 --> 00:47:31.137
Yeah. Because the two-seamer, and that might be what he's throwing.
00:47:31.137 --> 00:47:34.779
If it's fastball is only sitting at 93, he might just be throwing the two-seamer.
00:47:35.249 --> 00:47:38.493
He might not be throwing a four-seam fastball. Let me see if I can.
00:47:41.988 --> 00:47:45.738
Because two-seam fastballs come in around low mid-90s.
00:47:48.211 --> 00:47:52.158
If it's got movement on it, it should be a two-seamer.
00:47:52.426 --> 00:47:57.037
If he's throwing a straight four-seamer, he should be up in the mid because
00:47:57.037 --> 00:48:01.907
at his size, just the push from his leg through his hips should be pushing that
00:48:01.907 --> 00:48:04.167
ball up another three miles an hour. Right.
00:48:12.492 --> 00:48:18.011
Especially being a lefty. Exactly. Well, it's like what I saw with Trevor Rogers
00:48:18.011 --> 00:48:22.825
this year, and it used to frustrate me that, you know, I could hear Ben McDonald talking about it.
00:48:23.301 --> 00:48:27.031
I heard Jim Palmer talking about it, but the one thing that they never said
00:48:27.031 --> 00:48:33.024
that he was doing was every time he would pitch, he would fall off the mound a different way.
00:48:33.785 --> 00:48:37.616
It was never the repeated way, which means his mechanics weren't being repeated.
00:48:38.382 --> 00:48:46.811
And it was the smallest thing, but it was the reason why his pitches on 0-2,
00:48:46.811 --> 00:48:50.861
3-2, 2-2 counts were sailing so far inside or,
00:48:51.321 --> 00:48:53.841
sitting down the middle of the plate because,
00:48:54.526 --> 00:48:59.047
he couldn't get that pitch to slide further in,
00:48:59.877 --> 00:49:04.741
the strike zone because he was already lining up in the strike zone or the way
00:49:04.741 --> 00:49:07.661
he was falling off the mound, he wasn't able to complete the motion to get it
00:49:07.661 --> 00:49:11.121
to come through the strike zone because he was already starting outside the strike zone.
00:49:13.083 --> 00:49:17.391
Those are the little things that these pitchers are going to experience coming
00:49:17.391 --> 00:49:18.505
through the minor leagues.
00:49:19.231 --> 00:49:25.181
We have a whole new coaching staff in the bigs. So most of our minor league
00:49:25.181 --> 00:49:29.952
teams are still pretty similar coaching staffs that they've had for the past few years.
00:49:31.292 --> 00:49:37.408
But in the big leagues, it's a whole new coaching staff. So what these players
00:49:37.408 --> 00:49:41.218
have experienced in the minor leagues over the last seven years,
00:49:41.218 --> 00:49:44.859
eight years, is now different up in the big leagues.
00:49:45.787 --> 00:49:52.758
And I think some of that might be part of the issue with, I would say, you know,
00:49:54.321 --> 00:49:59.748
maybe your Jackson Hollidays, your Gunnar Hendersons, Colt Cousers,
00:49:59.748 --> 00:50:03.416
because they were taught one thing coming up through the minor leagues.
00:50:04.293 --> 00:50:09.842
And the big leagues were, they were all one fluid unison all the way up.
00:50:10.672 --> 00:50:14.945
Now what's being taught through the minor leagues is being completely different
00:50:15.154 --> 00:50:18.408
in the majors. And that could be one of the reasons why our offense is struggling.
00:50:18.408 --> 00:50:23.554
And I can't believe I just said that out loud and not thought about that until now. Yeah.
00:50:26.415 --> 00:50:29.707
But you know These are the things that I think,
00:50:31.181 --> 00:50:34.159
are going to be hit and miss throughout the year.
00:50:35.994 --> 00:50:41.526
These players are going to experience going through, and I think that's one thing that,
00:50:42.756 --> 00:50:48.020
Elias, as the president of baseball operations, needs to sit down and get all
00:50:48.020 --> 00:50:51.853
these groups together to be on the same wavelength.
00:50:52.370 --> 00:50:55.610
If you're going to teach this up in the majors, you've got to teach this all
00:50:55.610 --> 00:50:57.297
the way down from rookie ball on up.
00:50:57.453 --> 00:51:02.300
And I know you love hearing me say rookie ball, but you really do you've got
00:51:02.300 --> 00:51:05.453
to have the same fluidity,
00:51:06.254 --> 00:51:13.350
from the very beginning all the way up to the very end so you're not altering too much.
00:51:15.019 --> 00:51:18.346
From what these players are going to experience from rookie ball,
00:51:19.459 --> 00:51:25.240
single a high a double a triple a to the majors right and something i think
00:51:25.240 --> 00:51:29.620
is going to help the future generation is the Orioles have gone out and grabbed
00:51:29.620 --> 00:51:33.172
former prospects from their system and have turned them into coaches.
00:51:33.822 --> 00:51:41.507
Exactly. Taron Vavra is a coach over in the FCL. Nolborth Romero is a coach over in the DSL.
00:51:42.204 --> 00:51:45.770
Those are two prospects right there that have grown up in the Orioles system.
00:51:45.770 --> 00:51:50.092
Now, Romero was a part of the Andrew Kashner trade.
00:51:50.546 --> 00:51:54.520
So he hasn't grown up in our system, but he was also I believe 18 or 19 when
00:51:54.520 --> 00:51:58.793
we traded for him. But Taron Vavra is a player that has made it all the way up to majors.
00:51:59.181 --> 00:52:04.418
Yep. And has gotten to play and now is going to coach these kids. Well, I say kids, but.
00:52:04.888 --> 00:52:07.837
They are. They're kids. Young prospects. Most of them are kids.
00:52:08.771 --> 00:52:15.946
And, like, something that I thought of, is that what changed, like, Jaden LeRae?
00:52:16.625 --> 00:52:21.531
Like, Jaden LeRae was a six-year-old pick coming in, didn't play at all last year.
00:52:22.401 --> 00:52:27.090
And now look at him. Yeah. and I'm also saying his name because he just popped
00:52:27.090 --> 00:52:32.148
up because Delmarvo did something but anyway Jaden LeRais looked like a top prospect,
00:52:33.849 --> 00:52:39.385
So what changed? I think those little things help because these players know
00:52:39.385 --> 00:52:40.955
what they went through and what.
00:52:42.748 --> 00:52:49.760
Experiences they had coming up through the system from college, from high school.
00:52:50.369 --> 00:52:55.695
What to expect, what to expect at each level, and what type of coaching you're
00:52:55.695 --> 00:52:59.088
going to get. Also, how the game is different at each level.
00:52:59.749 --> 00:53:06.309
We see it from a fan's perspective and because we watch it nearly every single day,
00:53:07.135 --> 00:53:11.595
different angles we write about it we read about it we see about it on,
00:53:12.370 --> 00:53:16.955
whatever sports platform we're watching or social media platform we're looking
00:53:16.955 --> 00:53:26.104
at we see it find it computer wise tablet wise cell phone we can always find it and see it so,
00:53:27.224 --> 00:53:31.387
our perspective is definitely going to be a lot different than the perspective of actually living it,
00:53:32.832 --> 00:53:37.627
and it does i think that's going to help a lot going forward right,
00:53:38.805 --> 00:53:43.475
so we could easily sit here and go through every pick the rest of the way but
00:53:43.475 --> 00:53:47.008
i think we've hit the top five picks which i think is probably the most important,
00:53:47.768 --> 00:53:52.265
um looking at picks one through 20 i know you haven't been able to research
00:53:52.265 --> 00:53:54.838
the last two picks all too well.
00:53:56.010 --> 00:53:57.868
Who would you say right now.
00:54:00.074 --> 00:54:06.471
Are you most excited about and your biggest concern is out of the draft?
00:54:07.794 --> 00:54:15.525
Who I'm most okay I'll do biggest concern because I had this concern 10 minutes
00:54:15.525 --> 00:54:17.396
before we started when I was pulling up all this stuff.
00:54:20.281 --> 00:54:21.186
I look at this correctly?
00:54:23.938 --> 00:54:25.906
Yeah, I did. Wait a minute.
00:54:30.231 --> 00:54:35.589
One, two, three, four, five, six, that's more than seven.
00:54:38.607 --> 00:54:45.335
All right. So now my biggest concern might have changed. This is not right.
00:54:49.625 --> 00:54:55.238
Let's go here. Okay. It's still going to be Ross Norman. Right-hander.
00:55:00.846 --> 00:55:04.497
Out of Coastal Carolina. He made 16 starts last year.
00:55:06.610 --> 00:55:10.546
He was high in the innings, high in wins, which whatever.
00:55:11.620 --> 00:55:15.587
He had a 6-7 record with a 6-46 ERA. The thing that scares me,
00:55:15.927 --> 00:55:18.888
78 innings pitch, 65 strikeouts.
00:55:21.070 --> 00:55:25.314
So he's not a strikeout pitcher which scares me it's the MLB,
00:55:26.666 --> 00:55:30.562
if you're not a strikeout pitcher you better be a darn good ground ball pitcher,
00:55:31.432 --> 00:55:38.741
that's true you better not pitch a sinker ball yeah that is one of my biggest scares,
00:55:40.047 --> 00:55:47.487
one that I'm actually excited for after looking at it for a little bit is he the 10th round pick,
00:55:49.304 --> 00:55:50.207
Carlos.
00:55:52.671 --> 00:55:58.058
Sanchez, that's a tongue twister. Because this is a Juco player.
00:56:00.449 --> 00:56:06.727
Just real quick, his build. 6'1". When he was drafted, he was originally put
00:56:06.727 --> 00:56:09.093
down as a catcher. Now he's a utility player.
00:56:11.248 --> 00:56:16.356
37 for 41 on stolen bases. 388 average.
00:56:16.356 --> 00:56:22.909
88 hits 13 triples in 57 games,
00:56:24.627 --> 00:56:30.438
that's impressive 13 triples in 57 games good lord and he's supposed to be a catcher,
00:56:31.966 --> 00:56:40.689
there are players who's only had 13 triples in 162 games yeah 13 and 57 good lord,
00:56:42.036 --> 00:56:48.595
that's what one triple every 3 games 4 games it's almost one trip over four games.
00:56:51.062 --> 00:56:54.115
Yeah, and he only had one game where he had two trickles in that game.
00:56:55.212 --> 00:57:00.258
And his last triple came on April 3rd. He still played another month without
00:57:00.258 --> 00:57:03.577
having a triple, meaning it's 13 triples in less games. Yeah, that's...
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:12.046
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18,
00:57:12.046 --> 00:57:16.215
19 less games. So like 13 triples in 36 games.
00:57:17.788 --> 00:57:19.808
So that's one triple every three games. Yeah.
00:57:24.017 --> 00:57:27.947
And you still have 20 doubles, and you also walk more than you strike out.
00:57:29.671 --> 00:57:33.473
Not by much, but... I'm most excited for Dominic Vogel.
00:57:34.483 --> 00:57:38.233
Yeah. The reason being is we selected a pitcher in the third round.
00:57:39.011 --> 00:57:45.395
Yeah. I can't remember the last time we selected a pitcher that high since D.L. Hall.
00:57:47.008 --> 00:57:50.567
DeZerwa was the second round pick. Okay.
00:57:51.142 --> 00:57:55.444
I honestly, I don't, when did we, did we draft him last year? Yeah. Okay.
00:57:55.838 --> 00:57:59.028
I honestly did not remember that. And I know we did this last year,
00:57:59.028 --> 00:58:00.552
but I honestly did not remember that.
00:58:01.336 --> 00:58:06.428
So forgive me for not remembering that. I apologize. But Vogel,
00:58:06.428 --> 00:58:12.133
I'm kind of excited about, especially since he's coming out of a school like Kansas. Yeah. Um.
00:58:16.214 --> 00:58:25.014
He's ranked 205th, so of course a lot of people are going to think we're overreaching and underslotting.
00:58:26.471 --> 00:58:31.121
I don't think so. I think there's actually a lot of upside with him,
00:58:31.121 --> 00:58:35.028
and I think that we have the ability to turn this into a better pick,
00:58:37.051 --> 00:58:40.431
than what people think. And I think this is actually something that's going
00:58:40.431 --> 00:58:42.751
to benefit us, whether it turns into
00:58:42.751 --> 00:58:47.565
a trade capital piece or a piece that benefits the team in the future.
00:58:48.663 --> 00:58:54.391
We'll have to come back and visit this in three years and find a way to actually
00:58:54.751 --> 00:58:58.723
see if it benefited us. But I'm most excited about him.
00:58:59.675 --> 00:59:04.139
I am most concerned about EBJ 2.0.
00:59:04.551 --> 00:59:07.711
Yeah. For the same reasons that we were discussing earlier.
00:59:07.711 --> 00:59:12.649
He honestly is another version of Enrique Bradfield, who,
00:59:14.228 --> 00:59:17.441
no, honestly, I will say Enrique Bradfield in the second part of the season
00:59:17.441 --> 00:59:23.261
has started out a little bit better up in AAA, but he was hampered by a hamstring
00:59:23.261 --> 00:59:27.121
injury that might have sapped some of what he was doing up in AAA Norfolk, but...
00:59:28.769 --> 00:59:30.313
There's still a lot of issues there.
00:59:32.328 --> 00:59:37.175
The defense is there, but he's making too many running mistakes on base.
00:59:38.728 --> 00:59:43.368
He's making some blunders at the dish.
00:59:43.819 --> 00:59:48.020
I've seen some video of his at-bats, and it's like, why are you chasing some
00:59:48.020 --> 00:59:49.322
of the pitches he's chasing?
00:59:50.055 --> 00:59:54.890
And whether it's impressing, I don't know, but he is definitely striking out
00:59:54.890 --> 01:00:00.140
way too much for AAA if he wants to be up in the big leagues as a starting center
01:00:00.140 --> 01:00:02.343
fielder in the next year or two. Right.
01:00:02.894 --> 01:00:08.210
I mean, Gunnar Henderson coming into majors did not strike out half as much
01:00:08.210 --> 01:00:09.339
as he was striking out now.
01:00:10.297 --> 01:00:15.920
His walks and strikeout numbers were pretty even, and here we are three years
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:20.096
later or four years later, Gunnar Henderson striking out nearly 150 times a season.
01:00:21.257 --> 01:00:25.512
Right, and something that scares me, and that's what I was looking at,
01:00:25.512 --> 01:00:30.927
is the development of first-round picks recently.
01:00:31.844 --> 01:00:35.682
And, like, you go back, I mean, you can go back as far as you want,
01:00:36.075 --> 01:00:42.062
but I want us back as to the Elias era, so 2019 on.
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Adley's developed into an all-star catcher, but he was also a first overall
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and was arguably the best college prospect since Dansby Swanson, maybe.
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That I can think of. But he's also arguably the best catcher prospect since Buster Posey. Agreed.
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Or even Matt Wieters, if you want to go that far.
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2020 was Heston Kerstad. Now, granted, he had the, you know,
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the correct way to say it. Oh, he had COVID, then myocarditis.
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And then he got hit in the head. And I think his problems have turned mental, and he's gotten better.
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Yes You have Couser Couser looked really good in the minor leagues Brought it
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up to the major leagues And he can't hit a breaking ball That well He's gotten
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better First two years he looked really good Last year and a half he's been Meh Yeah,
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Jackson Holliday Who I still say to this day Was the consensus number one overall
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pick That 2022 draft class is just terrible right now,
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But Outside of like a few names But Jackson Holliday,
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He had a great start but I also do think that he was rushed in 2024.
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He also has yet to play a full season, mind you, just because he missed two-thirds of this season.
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Me and Nathan were talking about this the other day on his podcast.
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He has yet to hit 1,000 at-bats. Yeah.
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So. Yeah. But my thing with Holiday is I do think he was rushed,
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and I do think this is why...
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This is why social media can be a bad thing. We all won a holiday.
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We got holiday, and then we were all upset that holiday did not look good, like he did in AAA.
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I still think he's going to be the player we all think he's going to be.
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I think his brother will be better.
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Don't get me wrong. I think he's going to end up being better.
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But I think Jackson Holiday is going to be a good ball player,
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one, because the genes are there.
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And he knows how to conduct himself properly because of his dad,
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he's got his dad to fall back on when things aren't going right so his dad will
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be up front and honest with him,
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um I think him missing two-thirds of the season kind of cost him but you know
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something Nathan brought up the other day is you know he's hitting the ball
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pretty decent he goes three for three or four for four the other day and then
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they bench him the next day,
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not bench him but you know they sit him down the next day and it's like how
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is this kid supposed he's the number one overall pick,
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he should be playing how do you sit him down against left-handed batters if
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this is the guy who's the number one overall pick and is supposed to know how to hit these people,
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right and isn't that what stowers said when he got traded the up and down up
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and down up and down that's for them and look at stowers the consistent playing
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time the guy hit 28 home runs and became an all-star right,
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so right I mean you also have EBJ which is some injury problems some health concerns,
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um I mean you have a guy who still bases in Vanderbilt that has hamstring issues.
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Don't remind me and then you have Vance Honeycutt now granted I said back in
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2024 I did have in my draft article that Vance Honeycutt would be a pick,
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But there's a reason why he was an honorable mention. I like Vance Honeycutt.
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I know you do. And we discussed him when he was actually ranked ahead of EBJ.
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Yeah. I think the problem that Vance Honeycutt has, and, you know,
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we discussed this before, is this is his third season in high A. Yeah.
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Which, anybody who's anybody, I know this is the first season of Frederick.
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Now, I have not been to the Frederick Key Stadium, so I don't know what it looks
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like and how it affects hitters. but I do know Aberdeen is the worst place for
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hitters to go if they're going to succeed.
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So I kind of give him an albatross his first two years in high end.
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As far as Frederick Stadium, you know more about that.
01:04:45.938 --> 01:04:51.256
Is the problem still it's not a hitter-friendly park, or is it definitely,
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maybe Aberdeen sapped him mentally and he just is not adjusting properly,
01:04:58.465 --> 01:05:03.074
or does he possibly just need to get up to double-A to get the adjustments properly?
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I probably still think he wasn't a first-round pick.
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He might not be a first-round pick, but do you think... But,
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yeah, I get what you're saying.
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Um, first off, I will say Frederick is a much more hitter friendly ballpark.
01:05:16.147 --> 01:05:20.646
Um, we are seeing it with Aloy's doing fine. Irish is doing fine.
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We're seeing what Victor Figueroa is doing. And he came from a San Diego system
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where everyone says stadiums are nice. Yeah.
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Um, but overall, I think it's all mental. I think it's the fact that it's a guy who came in.
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He struggled everywhere. He struck out a lot in the ACC, which the ACC is a
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tough conference as it is.
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It is. Second best conference in baseball in college.
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Got drafted, went to Aberdeen, and fell off.
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And he's just having a hard time getting back into it. Well,
01:05:54.865 --> 01:05:59.225
it's funny. He posted on social media. I really thought it was kind of funny and comical.
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At first, I thought he might have just done it as a joke. But I really think
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he's serious. But he posted on social media. He is open to any suggestions anybody
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has to help alter his swing to help them out. Right.
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And my thing with that comment is I think back to something that,
01:06:20.523 --> 01:06:26.925
was it Wade Boggs or Pete Rose, where altering your swing does nothing.
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You either choke up, choke down, move up, move back. Or you fix your timing.
01:06:33.937 --> 01:06:39.243
So I just think he's thinking too much. I mean, he's 23.
01:06:40.032 --> 01:06:43.370
I think a lot of baseball players' problems now these days is they're thinking
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and trying to go up there and guess the pitch.
01:06:45.524 --> 01:06:49.175
Don't go up there and guess the pitch. Go up there and do what brought you here.
01:06:49.796 --> 01:06:52.002
Just go up there and produce.
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Don't try to guess what's coming based off what you see.
01:06:56.222 --> 01:07:01.197
And don't base off what people on social media say either,
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exactly like i mean you played high school ball yeah did you play college or
01:07:07.680 --> 01:07:13.370
did you just play high school uh i tried out for college i i played in the scrimmages
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and i was told to come back the following year because i was too young,
01:07:18.235 --> 01:07:20.116
fair but you played high school ball.
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A long time ago. We won't go there. We'll say 90s.
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90s sounds nice. It was 90s. You're right. There was no social media back in
01:07:31.765 --> 01:07:34.075
the 90s. If there was, it was AOL.
01:07:35.265 --> 01:07:39.085
Or not AOL. You're right. AOL. Hey, look at me.
01:07:40.403 --> 01:07:45.395
But there was no videos of being trolled on the internet. There was no videos
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of people being like, oh, this is easy.
01:07:49.737 --> 01:07:52.265
And I'm not trying to bash fan bases. I'm just saying in general,
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because I see it everywhere.
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You have no cell phones to instantly upload things or share with people what's going on.
01:07:58.619 --> 01:08:03.835
Right. And my thing with that is, like, even if you want to look at the 2024
01:08:03.835 --> 01:08:06.165
class and think, oh, that class looks solid.
01:08:06.786 --> 01:08:09.788
It looks solid because there are people having good rookie years.
01:08:10.159 --> 01:08:15.796
But if you look at it, the people having good rookie years, they were chop picks for a reason.
01:08:16.365 --> 01:08:22.875
Travis Pizana, Chase Burns, The Athletic Nick, J.J. Weatherholt,
01:08:22.875 --> 01:08:24.728
Jack Caglione, Connor Griffin.
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Top nine picks. We're talking about a guy all the way down at 22 who are behind
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names that are not even top prospects in their own system.
01:08:35.461 --> 01:08:38.080
Yeah. Three years or two years later.
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And you see why he's our number one prospect guy, right?
01:08:48.871 --> 01:08:50.502
All right, before we wrap things up,
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grading skill, what do you give the Orioles draft? Overall? Overall.
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I guess C+, because it's average. We got what we wanted. We got a lot of pitchers.
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What knocks it down a little bit is a couple is...
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Honestly, if it knocks down a little bit, it's a little too many high school kids.
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I give the same grade, honestly. I'm a C-plus with you. I kind of differ with
01:09:25.211 --> 01:09:26.541
you on why it knocks it down.
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I kind of think our first pick,
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is one of the reasons it knocks it down. And too many of our picks mirror a
01:09:37.711 --> 01:09:40.824
lot of players we already have that are still in the minors.
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If they're still in the minors, Why are we drafting players that are similar to them?
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They're in the minors for a reason. Yeah. So why are we drafting another player
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to look in the mirror at? Right.
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And I know it's, I will say, and we've said this, I think every year we've done
01:10:03.051 --> 01:10:09.553
this, it's very hard to sit there and grade a draft class because we don't know what it's going to do.
01:10:10.099 --> 01:10:13.911
If you come back three, four years from now and give it a grade you're probably
01:10:13.911 --> 01:10:17.441
probably better off grading it and that might be something we have to revisit
01:10:17.441 --> 01:10:21.434
in the future we come back here and look at 2019 2020 or something like that,
01:10:21.910 --> 01:10:25.721
and give it a real grade oh please say when yeah,
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we might we that's something we we we probably go 23 and back because yeah,
01:10:32.921 --> 01:10:36.201
it might be a good idea to do that because we can actually give it a better
01:10:36.201 --> 01:10:38.461
grade, but I agree. I think it's about a C+.
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I like the fact that we went heavy pitcher-wise. It's the first draft class
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I think we've actually gone heavy-wise under the Elias era.
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It's also the first draft class I can remember was drafting as many high school
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players as we did under the Elias era, and I think there's a method to that
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because he's not too worried if they go to college and we lose them.
01:11:02.330 --> 01:11:07.981
My biggest concern that I have is looking at some of the situations that we're looking at,
01:11:09.447 --> 01:11:15.101
I would bet money by the end of the signing period, six players don't sign. Minimum.
01:11:15.543 --> 01:11:17.765
We have until July 27th, and we'll find out.
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Yeah, because I can already see three.
01:11:22.072 --> 01:11:24.864
I can see four or five off the top of my head that don't sign.
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Well, the good thing is the way we've picked most of these players we over-slotted,
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which means we'll have more money to spread around.
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So the players we really want, we can offer more money to.
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Yeah. And that's a good thing. That's how we got Gunnar Henderson.
01:11:42.999 --> 01:11:50.638
When did first overall pick start making $11 million? When you underscotch them.
01:11:51.552 --> 01:11:54.783
Because that is the approximate pick for Rock.
01:11:55.149 --> 01:12:01.790
11.35. Yeah, well, just saying I never became a first-round draft pick then.
01:12:04.210 --> 01:12:08.672
But I played, I would have, back in the time when the Orioles traded for Glenn
01:12:08.672 --> 01:12:12.332
Davis and he signed a record-breaking contract of $1.1 million.
01:12:13.713 --> 01:12:17.044
Yeah. It's like we've talked about before.
01:12:18.118 --> 01:12:21.200
Snellmail was how we got it. It was a pigeon through the ear.
01:12:21.990 --> 01:12:30.332
Yeah, well, just like I've said before, Jackson Holliday's 2022 money is more
01:12:30.652 --> 01:12:36.775
than what Jim Palmer made in a 23-year MLB career. Yep.
01:12:37.466 --> 01:12:43.579
And I think it was doubled. Yep, and Jim Palmer's a Hall of Famer with three Cy Young Awards.
01:12:44.362 --> 01:12:48.382
Best Orioles pitcher of all time. Yep, has three World Series rings.
01:12:48.382 --> 01:12:50.719
Three-time World Series winner. Yep.
01:12:52.193 --> 01:12:56.485
So, anyway, on that note, we're going to wrap things up here.
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I want to thank Zach for joining us for the special, well, it's supposed to
01:13:00.895 --> 01:13:04.585
be just about the draft, but we seem to talk all things together when we get
01:13:04.585 --> 01:13:06.195
with Zach. We do this all the time.
01:13:07.155 --> 01:13:09.845
One of the great things about having Zach on is we can talk about everything.
01:13:09.845 --> 01:13:12.168
But this was our draft day special.
01:13:12.573 --> 01:13:15.225
Thank you all for joining us. I want to give a big shout-out to the Baltimore
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Battery because without the Baltimore Battery, we would not be doing this at
01:13:19.485 --> 01:13:21.077
all. I wouldn't even know Zach.
01:13:21.709 --> 01:13:23.887
I wouldn't have confidence to do this.
01:13:25.964 --> 01:13:29.375
But don't forget to check out the BaltimoreBattery.com. Be on the lookout for
01:13:29.375 --> 01:13:33.615
Zach's articles on draft day one and two, where he goes a little bit deeper
01:13:33.615 --> 01:13:35.148
into the prospects that were drafted,
01:13:35.612 --> 01:13:39.245
and gives you a better understanding of what these draft picks are made of and
01:13:39.245 --> 01:13:41.012
the quality of the draft picks.
01:13:41.586 --> 01:13:45.655
Also be on the lookout for what the prospect piece is, right?
01:13:45.655 --> 01:13:47.495
End of the month prospect piece, Scott?
01:13:48.244 --> 01:13:49.855
Yeah, two more weeks of the month.
01:13:51.622 --> 01:13:55.419
I think the next thing we really have is that and any trade deadline stuff.
01:13:55.808 --> 01:13:57.712
Yep. Deadline is August 3rd.
01:13:58.536 --> 01:14:00.395
The great, the good, and the ugly is getting ready to come out.
01:14:00.815 --> 01:14:08.933
We are on the all-star break, so mid-summer classic with only one Baltimore Oriole there. So far.
01:14:10.095 --> 01:14:15.675
Yeah. Crazy things can happen. I could go on about that. Anyway, let's move on.
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