AI Laptops, Printer Headaches and the Power Button Debate | EP 491

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The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network. Hey,
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this is Harold Perrineau, and you're listening to the Geeks
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on the Radio, Tech Talk Radio. Welcome to another episode
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of Tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor.
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I'm Sean DeWeerd.
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And I'm Justin Lemme. Had some great comments on last
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week's show, Sean. And Justin, especially Justin, you know, because
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you want to, you've, you've decided to go off and
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maybe buy yourself an RV. Are you, are you still
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in that mode? We're, we're looking into it.
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I mean, we haven't gotten anything serious yet, but yeah,
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we were talking about it, but again, talking about what
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Sean said last week, you know, definitely look at used
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and also looking at this time of year, you know, October, November, December, January,
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you Is usually the best time to buy because if
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you do buy off a lot, they're trying to get
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rid of their inventory before the next year stuff comes in. So, yeah,
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I mean, we'll probably go look here soon. I got
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a couple things that I got to take care of
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first coming up this week and next week and everything.
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But after that, then, yeah, I'm open to it.
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The other thing, too, I saw in a little bit
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of research I was doing for you was right now
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is a good time to buy it because gas prices
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are really high.
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Oh, so they're not moving as many, right?
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Well, people aren't using them, so people aren't finding the
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value in them, and they're getting rid of them because
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they can't afford the gas.
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Interesting. When I was driving in today, I saw one
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of the buses, and I was trying to remember the
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name of it, the style of bus, a bus RV.
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And it was funny because on the back of it,
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it had a woodworker's shop, like a bench. And it
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was like this guy could just lower this and do
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woodworking wherever he was at. It was actually kind of cool. Oh, wow.
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That's one of those RVs that you sell your house
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when you retire and you just travel across the country.
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Okay, so we got Rick Baker, who is great. He's
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on our Facebook and comments quite a bit about some
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of the stuff we've talked about. So thank you, Rick.
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Rick says, Justin, while I don't have an RV, I've
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been following Facebook groups and reading about them for years.
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After all I've learned, one main feature is what you
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really can't see. And this is insulation for a hot
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or cold climate. It says, otherwise you have pipe freezing issues,
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including sewer or AC can't keep up in the heat.
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I'd like to relax by watching the TV at night.
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The main feature I want is a sofa across from
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the TV. So many of the TV off to the side,
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which makes no sense to me. Also check the length
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of the RV. Some state parks have, wow, I didn't
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know this, maximum length rules. So he said, depends on
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where you plan to go. I would go to RV shows.
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All right.
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And that was, you know, kind of brought up. So
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you can see what you like or don't like by
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narrowing your search, Rick. I don't know. What do you
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think of that? Is that true about insulation? Yeah.
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So the big things are like if you're camping in
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the wintertime or in the summertime.
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Which is basically half of the year.
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Right. If you're not storing it for the wintertime, like
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I store mine from November to March.
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Right.
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We don't use it because there's no sense. We winterize
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it by taking all the water out and replacing it
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with antifreeze.
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Yep, we talked about that.
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And storing it at the St. Joseph County Fairgrounds. They
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offer a really good deal for storing it indoors all winter.
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Oh, wow. That's cool.
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We store it there in one of the 4-H barns.
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If you're camping in the wintertime, you need to anticipate
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If you don't have power for a period of time,
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you have to anticipate pipes freeze. RVs don't have skirting
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around the bottom.
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Right.
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When the wind goes under, it pulls the heat out
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from underneath. Your pipes can freeze. Your septic tank can freeze.
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Your gray water can freeze, et cetera. So some RVs
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have pad heaters.
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Can you buy a skirt for an RV?
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You can. Yeah.
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Okay.
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The easiest and cheapest solution you can find is you
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go to Home Depot, you buy two big eight-foot sheets
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of the Dow.
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Pink or blue foam board.
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And just chop it up in pieces and lay it
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around and secure it inside your camper. That's kind of
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what people do up here in the wintertime and then
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provide some sort of electric heat.
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So I understand about the winter thing because I would
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be doing, honestly, the same thing you are. But I
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can see where Rick is coming from. Like, you're living
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down in Arizona. It's a year-long commitment. Now, to the
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counterpoint of his, where he was talking about, you know,
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doing that in the summer, again, living in the South, yeah,
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I can see 120-degree temps where your AC can't. I'm
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not going to be doing that. I'm going to be
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camping up in the mountains, the Rocky Mountains, where the
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altitude is 10,000 feet and the high temperature is 78,
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maybe 80, you know, during the summer. So, yeah, obviously,
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if I camp down in Arizona, yeah, we're going to
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have to bring extra air conditioners or something, but camping
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up in the Rocky Mountains where I'm at, yeah, no,
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I don't think that would be an issue. And then again, yeah,
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just during the wintertime, just, yeah, winterize it and store it.
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You know, I was thinking, is there one company that
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is maybe better than the other? Like, if we wanted
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to get somebody on the show, To talk about this
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and maybe the technology that's a part of this.
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Well, let me drive five minutes down the road and
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find any major RV company in the world that I
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find somebody to talk to, right? Right.
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You know, you could always just pull up one of
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these camping YouTubers that, you know, they talk about all
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their different campers. And a lot of them are just
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dealers themselves. A couple of them that are pretty good.
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I think one of the channels that I follow, he
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doesn't do strictly RVs, but I think it's called Big RV,
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Big Truck or Big Truck, Big RV.
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One of the two. So he does a bunch of
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different stuff. But he's independent. He's not a dealer.
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And he just rates these kind of things. He goes
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to these shows.
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But I want to go back to Rick's comment. He
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also mentioned about the length of the RV. Yeah. That's
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a big thing.
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When you're talking about a Class A, which is kind
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of what you were mentioning, Andy, with the whole bus,
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I could see that happening with a Class A. But
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I'm looking at a Class C. And a Class C
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is going to be one of those smaller RVs. And
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there's almost no chance that a smaller RV like that
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would get denied from a state park.
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Right.
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It's it's it's they're pretty small.
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So you're restricted on kind of where in parks you
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can go.
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Right.
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They're designed for like you're not going to the tent
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only spots.
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Of course. Right.
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You're not going to the 20 foot spots.
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Right.
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You're looking at 24 to 48 foot spots with the
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pull through the 30 to 50 amp hookups. And some
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of them have some of some of them even have
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sewer directly there. So you can just plug a sewer in.
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That's a little bit more fancy, but more often than not,
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you have a back end spot or some, if you're lucky,
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have a pull through. So you can just pull in,
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pull through, park, camp, and pull out. Again, you're just,
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you just have to pay attention and plan ahead a
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little bit. So don't just show up at a park
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and expect to get a spot.
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That's the thing about being in the Rocky Mountains too.
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I mean, there's so many people that have moved here
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from out of state, whether it be, you know, California
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or Utah or even Texas, you know, And a lot
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of the Coloradans have, you know, obviously they've said, you know,
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go back home. We're full, you know, but it's really
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affected the camping industry because people that have lived here
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for their whole lives, which I'm not one of them,
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but they can't get a spot. You know, they have
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to wake up at 12.01 a.m. 17 weeks prior to
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when they want to go.
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Right.
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And make a reservation online and they have to have
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it done within three minutes or else that spot is taken.
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Recreation.gov is a site. So like state parks in Michigan,
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same thing, same deal, right? And there's all sorts of
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tips and tricks and people have hacks and whatever to
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try and get spots and all this stuff. But the
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hot spots sell out. Wow. The hot dates sell out.
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Fourth of July weekend, Memorial Day, Labor Day, all those big...
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holiday weekends that everybody wants to go camping it's it's
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incredibly difficult sometimes to get sites in your favorite place
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uh but that's where the not state parks come into
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play the county parks the state some of the national
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parks some.
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Of walmart parking lots i mean.
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Some of these some of the apps you can get
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like harvest hosts where you can sign up and be
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a member of harvest hosts and camp at wineries and
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breweries and other things that have parking lots that you
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can just stay in their parking lot overnight.
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I want to go camp at a brewery. Just stumble outside,
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go to bed.
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Harvest Host is something that my mom has utilized for
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a long time. We utilized them for probably the last
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six or seven years. Unfortunately, they did just get bought
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by a big hotel conglomerate. So the downfall of that
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app is probably soon to come. So I'm a little
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bit bummed about that. But it's called Harvest Host.
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Yeah, you mentioned it last week too.
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They were their own app, and then they got bought
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by a company called Boondockers, which then that company got
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bought by.
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Oh, so private equity. Oh, okay.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah. Have you ever thought, Justin, have you ever thought
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about maybe getting an older, like a really older one
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as you get into it at a great price and
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then refurbishing it? Because we did this. I don't know
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if you remember when I was working at the rock
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station here in town, we did a contest for some reason.
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I don't know how we got our hands on an
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old RV. And we refurbished the inside. We just completely
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decked it out. We even put a pole inside for fun,
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for people to enjoy. Exotic dancing. Yes, inside the RV.
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And then we put teeth on the front of it.
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And we painted it silver. And we called it the
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Monster RV. And we gave it away. And I'm still
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friends with the guy who won that Monster RV. I
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don't know if he still has it. But do people
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do that? Do they get them? Coming home today, I
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saw a guy with a big red truck, red and
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black truck that looked a little like Deadpool. And all
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over the truck were Marvel characters and figurines glued to
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the truck. And it was hilarious. But I'm wondering, could
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people do that with an RV, like an older one?
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Just go ahead and fix it up.
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You clearly have never talked to my dad.
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Yeah.
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No.
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Because he's done this to several.
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Has he? Okay.
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Oh, yeah. Over the years, my dad has restored Shastas
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and Volkswagens, and he's done all sorts of stuff. So, yes,
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that is a very big hobby to do it. And
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one of the big popular ones is Airstreams.
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Yes. That's what I think we may have done. Yeah.
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So there's a group, and you can find them on
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Facebook and then Reddit, I think it's called Tin Can Tourists.
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Right.
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Which is a group about people that restore and... and
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travel with Airstream because Airstream became very popular again. And
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unless you have a like two comma salary, you're not
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affording the new Airstream because they're 60, $ 70, 000 just for
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a tow behind. Um, but they're very luxurious. Um, but
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there are groups of people and groups of groups of
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the internet that will restore these and trade and sell
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and yeah. All sorts of stuff.
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There's another movie for you to watch, Justin, when it
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comes to RVs and trailers. It's an old movie with
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Desi Arnaz. I think Desi Arnaz is in it. And
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Lucy Ball called the long trailer. I think, I'm pretty
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sure it was both of them. That's a good movie
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as well. But that one is a toe behind.
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So, there's one.
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I was going to go back. You asked me a question.
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And I....
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I'll be honest, man, it takes me three days just
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to change the toilet paper. So I don't think I'd
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ever get around to like upgrading or refurbishing an RV.
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It would probably just rot away in the driveway.
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You know your limits. Yeah, I know my limits. I'm
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probably just going to buy relatively new, if not just
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straight out right new. But yeah. Yeah. Isn't it amazing though?
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All right, let's look, you know, venturing back into kind
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of tech a little. When you have a desire to
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learn about something, When you, whether it be craftsmen, whether
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it be fishing, whether it be RVing, there is a
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place no matter what on YouTube for you to get
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more info.
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And have you been, have you been doing that a lot?
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Going down the YouTube video? You can find anything on YouTube, honestly.
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But yeah, no, I, I follow a handful of different
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channels that are just talking about RVs. And again, I
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just mentioned a lot of them are dealers. And they're
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just using social media to promote their own, you know,
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their own business there or whatever. But it gives me
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a good insight. It gives me a good private look
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at different models. Because when you go to these big
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camper shows, you're fighting against the crowd. And then also
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with that, the one that we go to, that Great
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American RV show, they're serving alcohol. So then you're dealing
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with drunk people, you know. And so you never get
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a chance to just kind of like lay down in
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a bed.
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Of a camper to kind of see what it's like.
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it's just you watching the one person going inside the
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RV and talking about it, it does keep you that
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a little bit of a more of a personal feel
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to it without having that pressure of actually being there
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and being with the salesperson who's just trying to sell
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you on it. Right. So yeah, I do follow those.
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That's good. Yeah. There's so many out there.
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All right.
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I got to show you guys something I looked at
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this week. It was officially unveiled on Sunday. We had
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it in our hands. on Saturday. I went ahead and
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did a video on it, posted it on socials. I
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did a segment on it on KMSP Fox 11 this week.
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And it is, Slick was, I was talking to Slick
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and Slick says, hey, can you find out more about
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Google Books? And I said to him, I go, what
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the heck is a Google Book? You mean Chromebook? And
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he goes, no, Google Books. There's supposed to be a difference,
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but I don't know what the difference is. So I
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got a call from my buddy at Asus and he said, hey,
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I'd love to give you a look at the new
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Google Book. And I'm like, great, because somebody was just
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asking me about it. So they sent me over the
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new Asus Google Book 14. And this is what is
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right back here. And if you're on the camera, you'll
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be able to see it, or if you've seen any
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of our content. But this is it. What's amazing about
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this is, yeah, the size. It's cool. It weighs about 2.18 pounds.
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It's less than half an inch thick, which is pretty neat.
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Features a 3K OLED screen, which is cool. It's got
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a fingerprint reader on this so you can do your security.
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It's got a Google key here.
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When you hit.
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Google and G, what it'll do is it'll bring up Gemini.
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So it's really the first, I want to say the
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first laptop they put out that has Gemini baked into it.
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So for those looking for an experience using ai and
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i'm not saying you know we think of ai we
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think of all the slop that's out there and the
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creators that are just creating videos for you know fun
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and hoping to get more views and the whole bit
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some of it's so obvious but maybe it could be
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honestly it's a good tool uh how many you feel
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about ai ai can be a good tool just like
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when word came out and people had to move from
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the from the uh you know from the the typewriter
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to start using word or whether it be Lotus 1, 2, 3,
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or Excel. This is a really, really cool little laptop.
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This one is powered by an Ultra 5 325 processor.
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This is one of the things. It comes shipped with
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16 gigabytes of RAM, a 256 gigabyte hard drive, and
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they haven't skimmed on the ports. So if you're thinking Chromebook,
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you're thinking, okay, that's a Chromebook OS. But you get
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the ports on the side. Chromebooks generally don't have a
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lot of ports. Sometimes you even have to get a
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dongle on it. It's got great airflow on it as well.
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It features the great sound, six-speaker sound, so it directs
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it throughout. So if you want to watch something with it.
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But it's really geared at taking that Gemini step. And
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the other nice thing about it, so people say, okay,
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what's the difference between a Chromebook and a Google Book?
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Google book is a combination of Google OS and Android.
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So it pairs perfectly. If you've got an Android device,
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I can't believe how easy it was to get set
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up with it. You know, it put out a code.
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I took a, you know, a scan of the code
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with my phone. They paired right away. And it was,
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it was awesome. I got my apps on there. You've
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got the apps you can use. You could do your
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messaging on this. And if you're working on this or
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you're working on your smartphone, you guys have done it,
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or you start working on your phone and then you
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have to step away to do something else. You could
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pick it up on here and finish the work on
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here or vice versa. You can also with Gemini, you
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say you pull in a picture and using the new
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magic pointer, you just kind of shimmy it over the
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graphic and up will pop the Gemini assistant. And you
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could tell it combine these two photos and it will
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combine them or, brighten this photo or, you know, darken
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this photo. It comes with one year of Google Pro,
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Google AI Pro. After a year, you pay for it.
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It's like $ 260, $ 70, $ 80 a year. But for those
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looking for that experience, ultralight and easy to carry, this
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is a good one. Now, the thing is, I found
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out this one is $ 1, 299. And I did find that Lenovo, Dell,
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They're all putting out Google Books now. And some you
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may find, Acer has one that's priced around $ 900. It's
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using a Snapdragon processor. It doesn't have all the features
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that this one does. But we're going to start to see,
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as we saw Chromebooks become real popular during education, we're
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going to start to see the Google Books becoming more
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popular as well for people that are doing it. iPhone users,
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I don't know. You could still use it, but I
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think the Android users are going to find the most benefit.
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I wanted to kind of show that to you guys.
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It comes with an 18-hour battery. It's funny because I
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showed it opening it from the box in the video.
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And you can see the video on our YouTube page
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for Tech Talk Radio. And I got comments like right away, like,
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need some views. This was from Durotan. Need some views
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on the OS and battery performance. Also, any bugs found.
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I've got it till tomorrow morning and I got to
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ship it to another reviewer. So I've been trying to
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go through it. I've had it on since 10 o'clock
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this morning, been running a movie, been running apps, and
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it's down to about 68%. Another comment there from Robinry98 said,
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you get a lot of power to do what? What's
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the use case for this $ 1, 000 device? That's what I
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want answered instead of Beck's porn. Because I was going
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over the features. I mean, I just opened it up.
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I'm just saying this is what it is. So I
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didn't really get a chance to look at it yet.
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Character J1R said, how is it $ 1, 200, 256 gigabytes? I
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think you meant $ 1, 200 for 512 gigabytes of storage with
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16 gigabytes of RAM. Unfortunately, no. If you go to
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the ASUS store for the 256 it's $ 1, 200, $ 1, 299. There's
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no pricing yet on 512 gigabytes of storage. However, some
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of the other manufacturers that I did see are selling
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it with 512 and it's around the same price point.
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So I have to see if there's a correction. Amazon
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doesn't even have it available yet. And then Andrew Norton,
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89 wrote, I'm curious how multi-monitor support will work. Actually,
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it works great. I was able to test that. It
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has an HDMI out, so I connected it to another
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HDMI monitor. Now, if you want more than one extra monitor,
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you'd have to go with some kind of a dongle
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or something like that, or USB-C, but either way, I'm
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pretty pleased with it. Two Thunderbolt 4 USB-Cs, two USB 3.2s,
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and an audio out jack, and then the HDMI. So
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if you're thinking about Google book, I don't, would you
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get a Google book? Is this something you would know? No,
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you wouldn't look at it. And now Justin, you're an
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Android user as well. So you wouldn't find a benefit
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for this. A couple of different things.
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One, that price point, that's just, that's too much for what,
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what it offers in my opinion. Two, you know, I
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was just reading an article about this. I think it
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was yesterday about how, you know, schools all over the
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United States and even the world, You know, they.
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Introduce Chromebooks to kids. Right.
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And with that, they're introducing Gemini AI and especially true
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in this case.
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Yeah.
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Putting kids on a product by a big tech company
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like Google right off the bat. And this is their
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very first computer. They don't know how to use computers.
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This is what they learn computers on. It just it
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just reinforces that that that ecosphere of Google. And everything
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has to be Google. And we have gotten to a
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point now where there are so many other options. And
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other than just Google, I mean, people still say, oh,
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just Google it. Well, slowly but surely, people are saying, hey,
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go ask AI. And that's more of a general term.
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Instead of just saying, go Google it. As a matter
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of fact, yes, I am an Android user. But as
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a matter of fact, I'm trying to de-Google. Because putting
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all of my stuff into one big tech company's basket, again...
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In this case, you're paying for the product. But most
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of the time, when it comes to Google, you're not
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paying for anything because you are the product. They're selling
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your data. They're taking everything. They're serving you advertisements. I'm
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just getting tired of it. And their business model is
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getting exposed, so they're trying to pivot and go into
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the AI thing and these Google books and stuff. But
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it's really just putting lipstick on a pig.
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I saw a story. I did see a story this
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week that said something about how when you generate with
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ChatGPT or Google or Gemini, that they're going to try
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and find a way to pop ads into your results. Yeah,
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and that's the moment I stopped using that particular AI. Yeah,
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and this is even with the paid models. I don't
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know if this is really the case, but people are
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saying it makes you think we are just surrounded by advertising.
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That's the whole purpose. That's the whole tech industry. I
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understand television. I understand radio. I've been in the business
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for over 30 years. I understand radio advertising. But when
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we first started seeing the computers and, you know, okay, okay,
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you go to a website, oh, there's an ad. Now
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it's just, it's everywhere. Even our paid services like Netflix
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and Hulu and Tubi, which is free, but you get
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the ads. We could deal with that.
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Go back to your radio, your analogy right there. You
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worked in radio, okay? Caller number nine wins tickets to
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a concert. Do you turn around and take that guy's
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information that just won that caller number nine and sell
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it to a data broker?
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Absolutely not. You don't.
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No. You don't.
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But these tech companies do. At least for the companies
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that I've worked for in my career. Now, some of
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the companies now, when you call in, you win. I
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don't know how they handle it, but it usually is
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a sign. What happens with that? I don't know. but
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not the companies that I work for here in Tucson.
481
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But I know some of the larger companies. You know,
482
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when you enter a contest, what is going on with
483
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that information? What are your thoughts, Sean?
484
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I wouldn't buy it at that price point.
485
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Is it just because it's too expensive?
486
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No, it's just I have no use for it. It's
487
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not for me. I'm sure there's a use case for
488
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other people. I'm also trying to de-Google.
489
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Right.
490
00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:24.490
Looking at some home server options for Google. cloud and
491
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Google Photos and moving my stuff out of Google and
492
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onto my own on-prem cloud.
493
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Right.
494
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Or my own hosted cloud just to get away from
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00:24:35.299 --> 00:24:37.740
the Google environment. And there are a ton of good
496
00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:41.819
open source options that are more convenient than Google.
497
00:24:42.599 --> 00:24:46.089
Like what? Because I know Matt was going into the
498
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home labs and doing some stuff with that.
499
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I don't have the names off the top of my head,
500
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but I know there are plenty of options. There's a
501
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whole ecosystem around de-Googling.
502
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Yeah.
503
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There's a whole subreddit dedicated to it called de-Google or de-Googling.
504
00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:04.619
So just looking at what your options are outside of Google.
505
00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:07.880
And it's not just Google. No, it's not just Google.
506
00:25:07.940 --> 00:25:14.769
It's Apple too, right? It's Apple cloud storage, Google cloud storage, Microsoft, Facebook,
507
00:25:15.230 --> 00:25:17.609
all of them, Microsoft. Yeah, right. Exactly. They all have
508
00:25:18.930 --> 00:25:22.380
storage options and it's, They have to make the money
509
00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:25.299
somehow to keep the data centers running. It's just like
510
00:25:25.339 --> 00:25:27.400
my dad always says, somebody's got to pay to keep
511
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the lights out of Vegas.
512
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Yeah.
513
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So somebody's got to pay to keep the computers running.
514
00:25:33.329 --> 00:25:36.089
Right. You know, one of the things on the Google
515
00:25:36.109 --> 00:25:38.890
OS that was the most difficult for me, it took
516
00:25:38.930 --> 00:25:41.589
me a few times when I kept, why don't I
517
00:25:41.609 --> 00:25:44.089
have a clock in the bottom right-hand corner? Oh yeah,
518
00:25:44.170 --> 00:25:49.349
it's Google OS. It's a totally different operating system.
519
00:25:49.710 --> 00:25:52.579
If you grew up with Windows, or even if you
520
00:25:52.619 --> 00:25:54.880
just start using a Google computer and then you move
521
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to Windows, it's going to be a whole different experience. Again,
522
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my point going back to the children, the children are
523
00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:04.079
going to learn on how to use a computer on
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these type of computers and then they're going to grow
525
00:26:06.430 --> 00:26:07.630
up and they're going to get a job and they're
526
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going to be forced to use Windows or maybe Linux.
527
00:26:11.069 --> 00:26:13.509
Well, maybe not for everybody, but The majority.
528
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I'm wondering.
529
00:26:14.190 --> 00:26:15.250
And they're going to be like, wait, how do I
530
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use this? What are you talking about? You grew up
531
00:26:17.150 --> 00:26:19.569
with computers. Well, I grew up with Google OS. Well,
532
00:26:19.630 --> 00:26:23.230
nobody uses that. I'm wondering how many parents, how many
533
00:26:23.329 --> 00:26:27.589
dads that have delved into technology, maybe that are watching
534
00:26:27.630 --> 00:26:30.710
or listening right now, would think of giving their kid
535
00:26:30.890 --> 00:26:34.839
an older laptop with an older version of Windows on
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them and say, get to learn it. You wouldn't do it? No.
537
00:26:38.059 --> 00:26:39.519
Not with all the security.
538
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It'd be a Linux machine.
539
00:26:41.420 --> 00:26:43.829
Or Linux box. Yeah. Yeah, Linux.
540
00:26:43.849 --> 00:26:45.910
You guys know how many computers I have here?
541
00:26:45.930 --> 00:26:49.470
I'm looking for five laptops right here.
542
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I want Max to get in and dive in because
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00:26:52.890 --> 00:26:54.769
he's going to want to play computer games. He's going
544
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to want to play video games.
545
00:26:56.569 --> 00:26:58.059
Eric plays a ton of those.
546
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I want to encourage him to, you want to play it?
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Figure it out. Build it.
548
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Get the games you want.
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Download them.
550
00:27:04.460 --> 00:27:06.839
Good luck with that because I tried that route and
551
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:10.289
that did not work as expected. Guess who ended up
552
00:27:10.349 --> 00:27:12.769
installing all of his games? You did. This guy. Yes.
553
00:27:12.789 --> 00:27:13.809
All right, we're going to.
554
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Take a quick break.
555
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We come back. We do have some listener questions we'll share.
556
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A big question, too, that has come up in tech
557
00:27:19.990 --> 00:27:23.910
this week is, and I hear like three different groups saying,
558
00:27:24.109 --> 00:27:26.450
don't hit the power button and hold it to shut
559
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your computer off. We'll get into that coming up with
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Tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor.
561
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I'm Sean DeWeer.
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And I'm Justin Lemme. Find us on the web at techtalkradio.com.
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We'll be right back.
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And now, back to Tech Talk Radio.
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My problem is I've got my pointer in the middle
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of the screen, and I need to move it to
567
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the left, but my mouse is over on the left-hand
568
00:27:48.470 --> 00:27:51.809
side of the pad. And if I go any further
569
00:27:51.869 --> 00:27:54.410
to the left, it's going to go off the pad. Anyway,
570
00:27:54.430 --> 00:27:56.759
if you could give me a call, I'd appreciate it.
571
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I'll wait until I hear from you.
572
00:28:01.220 --> 00:28:03.220
So we're on the listener question train here, so we're
573
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just going to keep rolling.
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All right.
575
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And we're going to read another one here from Linda
576
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in Sajarita.
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All right.
578
00:28:08.950 --> 00:28:10.470
She says, I'm in need of a new printer and
579
00:28:10.490 --> 00:28:12.670
have just recently found your show. Half the stuff goes
580
00:28:12.690 --> 00:28:14.690
over my head. I thought you might be able to
581
00:28:14.730 --> 00:28:15.359
clear up a question.
582
00:28:15.470 --> 00:28:17.039
It goes over our heads too. It's okay.
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Sometimes.
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00:28:18.059 --> 00:28:19.680
Yeah. Fake it till you make it, babe. Yeah.
585
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:22.259
I was thinking about going with HP because I once
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had an HP years ago and loved it, but gave
587
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it to my son when he went to school. Now
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00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:28.809
I need to print stuff again, but my son says
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HP makes it so you can't use cheaper inks. What
590
00:28:31.970 --> 00:28:36.470
would be another good brand if that's true? So yes,
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HP stinks. When it comes to inkjet printers and replacement
592
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inks and third-party inks and firmware updates that don't let
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00:28:46.150 --> 00:28:50.029
you print with non-HP ink and all this stuff, there's
594
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a really great solution.
595
00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:51.779
All right.
596
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Buy a laser jet printer.
597
00:28:53.190 --> 00:28:54.079
Yep, that's what I have.
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Spend a little bit of extra money and buy a
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laser jet that uses toner. And I have an HP.
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I don't remember the brand name. I think, Justin, you
601
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have a brother.
602
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:06.660
No, I have an HP laser jet color. Yeah. A
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00:29:06.769 --> 00:29:07.880
color one? Oh, those are great.
604
00:29:08.109 --> 00:29:09.849
Yeah, I have an HP color one. I think I
605
00:29:09.869 --> 00:29:13.210
got the same one Justin has. We bought it three
606
00:29:13.230 --> 00:29:15.789
years ago and have not had a problem with it.
607
00:29:15.869 --> 00:29:17.990
It's fantastic. It's hooked up to the internet. I can
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print from any computer in my house. I can print
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from my phone. I can print wirelessly. It's just worked.
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Do you remember what your first printer was?
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My first printer?
612
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Yeah.
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A Canon M-PIX 1000 or something like that.
614
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Right.
615
00:29:32.630 --> 00:29:36.589
And it took ink and it I tried to print
616
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on photo glossy paper and it was terrible. And yeah.
617
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.380
I used it in college and Justin how about you
618
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:46.279
I had a dot matrix did you really okie data
619
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you remember the okie datas oh yeah yeah yeah I
620
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:52.400
don't remember exactly which model we had but I remember.
621
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That oh yeah you know all that stuff those were
622
00:29:57.329 --> 00:29:59.500
great I had a My first printer was an HP
623
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:05.309
LaserJet 4, and I dropped maybe $ 1, 300 for it. And
624
00:30:05.349 --> 00:30:12.279
this is back in 1993 or 1994. And man, it
625
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:15.039
was just, it was. And before that, I did have
626
00:30:15.059 --> 00:30:18.819
Dot Matrix, but my first LaserJet printer. I have heard, though,
627
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.569
that HP has made it almost so that if you
628
00:30:22.660 --> 00:30:24.670
want to refill the ink, you join a club.
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00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:29.039
Yeah, they have like an ink refill thing, but they
630
00:30:29.140 --> 00:30:31.500
overcharge for it. But even with the laser jet, you know,
631
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:34.059
he was talking about, first off, I just got to
632
00:30:34.099 --> 00:30:38.809
say this. Linda, don't get an inkjet printer unless you
633
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are going to be printing a lot and constantly. Because
634
00:30:43.910 --> 00:30:45.650
the problem with an inkjet printer is if you're not
635
00:30:45.710 --> 00:30:48.609
printing constantly, that ink will dry up inside of the
636
00:30:48.650 --> 00:30:49.829
pipes of the printer.
637
00:30:50.029 --> 00:30:50.210
Yeah.
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00:30:50.779 --> 00:30:53.279
And your printer is pretty much dead. You'd have to
639
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take it in. get it repaired. And it's almost the
640
00:30:55.940 --> 00:30:58.430
price of a whole new printer. Like, like Sean said,
641
00:30:58.450 --> 00:31:00.690
just spend a little extra money, get a laser jet
642
00:31:00.769 --> 00:31:04.589
because laser does not, the, the, the toner never clogs up.
643
00:31:04.789 --> 00:31:08.640
Okay. It's dry toner. It's magnetic. That's how it works. Um,
644
00:31:08.819 --> 00:31:12.579
laser jets way, way better, especially for that casual printing.
645
00:31:12.740 --> 00:31:13.339
Way better.
646
00:31:13.619 --> 00:31:14.339
Yeah. Way better.
647
00:31:14.579 --> 00:31:15.019
I know.
648
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:16.740
I have the, but they make it, I have the
649
00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:22.470
Epson photo, uh, printer that's color. The inks are completely expensive,
650
00:31:22.529 --> 00:31:23.890
but yes. Yes.
651
00:31:24.170 --> 00:31:25.329
When it comes to photos, if you're going to be
652
00:31:25.349 --> 00:31:27.410
printing out photos, yeah, you want probably an inkjet. You
653
00:31:27.430 --> 00:31:30.259
want a good inkjet because LaserJet just doesn't do photos
654
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:33.799
that great. But if it's just general stuff, yeah, LaserJet.
655
00:31:33.819 --> 00:31:36.660
The other thing is, is even with the LaserJet, I
656
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:43.220
was having problems. I did buy some third-party toner for
657
00:31:43.259 --> 00:31:47.400
the HP, and they had this whole procedure built in
658
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.220
to the packaging that talked about you need to use
659
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:54.450
this special tool that they sent, which is obviously a
660
00:31:54.750 --> 00:31:59.289
3D printed tool, to pull the chip out of the
661
00:31:59.690 --> 00:32:04.109
actual HP cartridge and then install it into their cartridge
662
00:32:04.430 --> 00:32:07.509
so then it makes the HP printer think That it's
663
00:32:07.529 --> 00:32:09.309
an authentic HP ink.
664
00:32:09.329 --> 00:32:10.150
That's a shame.
665
00:32:10.450 --> 00:32:13.170
But the problem is when you do that, usually you're
666
00:32:13.210 --> 00:32:17.299
replacing an empty cartridge. That chip retains that information that
667
00:32:17.339 --> 00:32:19.579
it's an empty cartridge. So even if you put a
668
00:32:19.660 --> 00:32:22.819
brand new cartridge in, it's still going to say you're empty.
669
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:26.000
So then every time you print, you have to go
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to the printer itself.
671
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:30.160
You have to click. Yes, I understand the toner's low.
672
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Click OK.
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00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:34.119
And then it prints just fine. So it's still, no
674
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:35.660
matter what you do, it's still a pain in the butt.
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Another one I got, though, and I don't know what
676
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:41.839
you guys think about this, and when Gloria was setting
677
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up her office, she wanted a color inkjet. I didn't
678
00:32:45.740 --> 00:32:47.839
want to do color laser because it was kind of
679
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:50.980
just becoming more of a thing. I thought, let's just do,
680
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.980
I did an Echo Tank. I did the, it's an
681
00:32:54.099 --> 00:32:57.849
Epson Echo Tank printer. I've actually been pretty happy with it. Yeah,
682
00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:00.029
I've heard good things about those. But the only problem
683
00:33:00.049 --> 00:33:03.289
we run into is, again, you hit it on the head, Justin.
684
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If you don't print a lot with it, it's going
685
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to clog up. And I have a cleaning kit that
686
00:33:09.329 --> 00:33:12.390
I was able to use the first time this happened.
687
00:33:12.859 --> 00:33:15.279
But again, yeah, that's one of those things. Make sure
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it's something you're printing at least twice a week, three
689
00:33:18.460 --> 00:33:20.539
times a week, just to get it through. You will
690
00:33:20.579 --> 00:33:23.359
go through more ink. But again, it's not there to
691
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look at. It's there to use. It's there to be ink.
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So I guess if you're using a lot, then inkjet
693
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might be cheaper, especially if you're using photos. If you're
694
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just going to be printing occasionally... laser jet's going to
695
00:33:36.089 --> 00:33:37.349
be the way to go. And if you were going
696
00:33:37.369 --> 00:33:39.869
to print something that you need color, then a color
697
00:33:39.910 --> 00:33:41.730
laser jet. If you're just going to print black and white,
698
00:33:42.230 --> 00:33:45.170
a simple black and white laser jet would be fine.
699
00:33:46.089 --> 00:33:47.859
And we bought ours from Costco.
700
00:33:48.380 --> 00:33:49.190
Yeah, so did I.
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And got a killer deal on it.
702
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:53.619
Yeah, it was like $ 450, I think. So when Linda's
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00:33:53.859 --> 00:33:58.559
question about HP, I mean, could HP still be a solution?
704
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Or you guys think maybe she should look at Brother
705
00:34:00.980 --> 00:34:03.160
or Epson or any of the other ones that are
706
00:34:03.180 --> 00:34:04.309
out there? HP's still the market leader.
707
00:34:04.809 --> 00:34:09.449
Yeah, HP's definitely on top. Brothers right there, Epson's right there.
708
00:34:09.710 --> 00:34:11.639
I think all three brands are going to be decent
709
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if you're getting a LaserJet. Just find a deal. Go
710
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:18.219
to Costco, Sam's, whatever.
711
00:34:19.260 --> 00:34:24.380
Costco usually has at least one color LaserJet printer on
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00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:27.360
sale from one of those three manufacturers. And a color
713
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.179
LaserJet now, where I spent $ 1, 300 for a 300 dpi LaserJet,
714
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:41.349
laser printer back in the early 90s. Now you could go, what? $ 450. Yeah, $ 450, right? Yeah,
715
00:34:41.369 --> 00:34:45.929
for a color laser with toner. Yeah, that's what I
716
00:34:45.929 --> 00:34:47.949
think we paid is like $ 450.
717
00:34:47.260 --> 00:34:52.360
$ 399 right now for an HP color laser jet all-in-one scanner,
718
00:34:52.420 --> 00:34:53.559
printer thing.
719
00:34:53.900 --> 00:34:57.400
And it also is a scanner. Yep. And a copier. Oh, wow.
720
00:34:58.179 --> 00:34:59.619
That's really good. Yeah, they've got them for.
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Double-sided.
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Just Google, like, Just Google it. Yeah. Google it. Just
723
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:06.829
look it up on Costco.
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Use your favorite search engine.
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00:35:08.269 --> 00:35:11.889
So there's deals out there to be had. Your mileage
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may vary, but.
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Right.
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00:35:13.969 --> 00:35:15.949
I've been happy with my HP. Joss has been happy
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with his HP. All right.
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00:35:17.250 --> 00:35:18.690
For the most part. All right. So one of the
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big questions that I'm seeing a lot of people talking about,
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00:35:21.750 --> 00:35:24.449
how do you shut down your computer? And, you know,
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00:35:24.469 --> 00:35:26.829
I've been in that situation before where. Wait, wait, wait.
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You guys shut your computer down? Well, yeah, I guess
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00:35:29.889 --> 00:35:31.590
I found out recently you don't have to.
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Somebody's got like a thousand different updates waiting to be installed.
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I shut mine down most nights.
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I do too. You know, if I'm, I'm, I'm heading
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off to go brush the teeth for the, for the,
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you know, to, to go to bed, hit the power
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button on top and it shuts down. You know, I
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00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:49.980
haven't used, been using it. It's just okay. Time to
743
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:54.380
shut it down. But people are saying now that number one,
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00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:57.619
you don't have to shut down your PCs anymore. Not
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like we had to do like five, six, seven years ago.
746
00:36:00.699 --> 00:36:03.630
But also saying you don't want to hold the power
747
00:36:03.670 --> 00:36:07.409
button down on a Windows 11 computer and shut it
748
00:36:07.449 --> 00:36:09.789
off that way. That's like ripping the power cord out.
749
00:36:10.250 --> 00:36:11.909
That's only in emergencies.
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00:36:12.449 --> 00:36:14.500
Yeah. Well, yeah. Like if I have something that I'm
751
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doing and it's just crashed and it's just sitting there,
752
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it's sitting there. I'm sorry. My level of patience goes
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00:36:22.179 --> 00:36:22.699
very quick.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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But you don't ever want to just, yeah, like if
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you're just doing a regular shutdown, you do not want
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to just, yeah, hold down the power button. It's like
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00:36:31.139 --> 00:36:32.389
ripping the heart out of it.
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It's going to kill it immediately with no chance to
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00:36:36.769 --> 00:36:39.639
save any of the data. or save the state that
761
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it was in.
762
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:41.900
Stop processes right in the middle.
763
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And it's, yeah, this is how you mess up. It's
764
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going to wake up stuff. All right. Oh God. Yeah. Yeah. Don't, don't,
765
00:36:49.099 --> 00:36:49.579
don't do that.
766
00:36:49.619 --> 00:36:50.039
Just do it.
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00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:51.739
If you're going to shut it down, do it the
768
00:36:51.780 --> 00:36:52.429
right way. Either.
769
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If you have your power button, physical power button mapped
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to shut down, just press it once. Like you said,
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Andy and walk away. It'll shut down. If not, just
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click on the windows button. go to the shutdown area
773
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and just click shutdown. I normally just simply put mine
774
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to sleep. And then I reboot it once a week
775
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when we got updates.
776
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So you don't have to reboot it daily. So you
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let it go to sleep and maybe after six hours,
778
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seven hours, you come back. You don't have to reboot
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00:37:20.739 --> 00:37:25.949
it later that day. No, you don't. If you do, you've.
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00:37:25.769 --> 00:37:28.550
Got other stuff. You've got other problems going on. Honestly,
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00:37:29.210 --> 00:37:33.329
you've got apps that are leaking memory. Or, you know,
782
00:37:33.530 --> 00:37:36.909
other nefarious apps on your computer that you probably don't
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00:37:36.929 --> 00:37:42.199
know about. Malware, viruses, something like that. But no, by default, no, no.
784
00:37:42.460 --> 00:37:45.079
You don't have to reboot it once or twice a day.
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00:37:45.099 --> 00:37:49.920
Here's one solution for you. If you press the Windows
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key and I, sorry, my Linux friends and Apple friends.
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But Windows key, I, you can go into system, power
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and battery. If it's a laptop, you can click lid,
789
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power and sleep controls. You scroll down, you'll see them.
790
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If it's a desktop PC, you'll see power button controls.
791
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:09.840
There you could tell it, you know, when you press
792
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:11.840
the power button, what do you want it to do?
793
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Do you want it to go to sleep like Justin
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does with his? Or, you know, do you want it
795
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to shut down and all operations and then do a
796
00:38:19.099 --> 00:38:22.369
shutdown on it? So rather than a forced shutdown, shut
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down by holding and pressing the power key. As Sean said,
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you only use that as a last resort. You know, because, again,
799
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it could end up messing up files.
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You know, speaking of Windows, have you guys heard anything
801
00:38:34.059 --> 00:38:36.980
about this, the new big version of Windows 11?
802
00:38:36.980 --> 00:38:40.480
No. The 26H2 that got released a couple.
803
00:38:40.500 --> 00:38:42.599
The ones that are supposed to reduce RAM usage?
804
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Yeah, really.
805
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:45.639
I've been reading a lot about it. I have it
806
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:48.920
on my work laptop, and it is true.
807
00:38:49.489 --> 00:38:53.880
Windows... feels snappier it feels faster it's also using about
808
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:58.469
two gigs less ram uh in an idle state so
809
00:38:58.530 --> 00:39:03.329
it went from like around around six gigs of ram
810
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usage idle right down to about about 4.5 or so
811
00:39:07.050 --> 00:39:10.710
four 4.5 gigs um but i tell you the the
812
00:39:10.750 --> 00:39:14.170
startup i mean windows 11 god for years you go
813
00:39:14.190 --> 00:39:15.829
to start up your laptop you might as well just
814
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walk away take a nap yeah Maybe, maybe apply for
815
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a couple of other jobs. Cause I mean, by the
816
00:39:20.579 --> 00:39:22.949
time you get back, your computer's still waiting. Please wait.
817
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And Windows 11 has been horrible. Ever since I downloaded 26H2,
818
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:31.780
my Windows laptop, it starts right up. It's fast.
819
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So it should be in your update folders, 26H2. We've
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got to take another quick break. We come back with
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more of Tech Talk Radio. Got another question about your TVs.
822
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We'll find out about that when we come back. I'm
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Andy Taylor.
824
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I'm Sean DeWeer.
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And I'm Justin Lumme. Send us an X at Tech
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Talk Radio. We'll be right back. And now, back to
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Tech Talk Radio. Hi, this is Colin Mochrie of Whose
828
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Line Is It Anyway.
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You're listening to Tech Talk Radio.
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I don't know how it works.
831
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It's all magical stuff to me.
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All right, continuing on the listener question train, as Sean
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mentioned last segment. Gary in Tucson, been a listener for years,
834
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but just got back from the Walmart in Tucson.
835
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Did you guys know? That when you buy a TV,
836
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you have to set up an account.
837
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Oh, yeah.
838
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Hadn't heard you guys talk about that, but this seems
839
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very strange. I don't know.
840
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I got to say, Gary, I'm not exactly sure what
841
00:40:25.769 --> 00:40:27.750
you're talking about. Are you talking about a Walmart account?
842
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Are you talking about a television account? I'm assuming you're
843
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talking about a television account. Now, granted, yeah, of course.
844
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That's why TVs are so cheap. You know, because they
845
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harvest your data and they sell it to people like
846
00:40:41.369 --> 00:40:44.090
this whole big thing about LG, you know, spying on
847
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you in the background.
848
00:40:45.139 --> 00:40:45.340
Right.
849
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Recording your conversations, even when the TV is off. Yeah,
850
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of course.
851
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:53.019
But most televisions and again, I don't know what brand
852
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:56.679
you're talking about, but most televisions will ask you to
853
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set up an account.
854
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But there's always a skip or no or maybe later
855
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:03.880
button that you can click to bypass it.
856
00:41:05.139 --> 00:41:07.480
So like for our Google TV, like my TV that
857
00:41:07.500 --> 00:41:08.800
we just bought, we just bought a TCL.
858
00:41:09.099 --> 00:41:09.320
Right.
859
00:41:10.659 --> 00:41:14.960
And it's a Google Chrome, Google OS TV. So of
860
00:41:15.340 --> 00:41:17.900
course it makes sense to log into my Google account
861
00:41:18.019 --> 00:41:19.820
because then it's tied to my YouTube and all that
862
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:23.329
other stuff, which is great. And my previous TV was
863
00:41:23.349 --> 00:41:27.570
a Roku TV, which my son shattered the screen with
864
00:41:27.590 --> 00:41:31.650
some blocks. And so when I, got rid of it.
865
00:41:31.730 --> 00:41:33.769
I actually took it apart and took out the logic
866
00:41:33.809 --> 00:41:35.570
board because I wasn't sure if I was going to
867
00:41:35.590 --> 00:41:36.929
be able to delete the data or not. And I
868
00:41:36.949 --> 00:41:38.449
didn't want to go into the scrap yard with my,
869
00:41:38.489 --> 00:41:41.940
all my stuff logged in YouTube because I couldn't log
870
00:41:41.980 --> 00:41:44.800
into it because I couldn't see the screen. So that's
871
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:46.980
just sitting in a box of parts in my basement now.
872
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:50.980
Um, never even thought about that because it would have your,
873
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:52.039
it would have you.
874
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:55.230
Cause if somebody was able to harvest that information off there,
875
00:41:55.269 --> 00:41:57.849
they'd be, it could potentially log into my accounts. So
876
00:41:57.889 --> 00:42:00.690
I kept all that. But, um, we bought a new
877
00:42:00.710 --> 00:42:04.090
TV and we create, you know, a Google TV. So
878
00:42:04.130 --> 00:42:06.150
it's got the Google home and all that stuff in it, which,
879
00:42:06.889 --> 00:42:08.969
but then you're logging into all your other apps. So
880
00:42:09.510 --> 00:42:10.550
when you, when you mean.
881
00:42:11.010 --> 00:42:13.889
Says the guy who's trying to de-Google. Yeah.
882
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:18.039
When the TV is $ 300 and there's a risk of
883
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:19.760
your kids breaking it the day you bring it home.
884
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.699
I don't give a rat's behind if it's $ 300 or.
885
00:42:22.539 --> 00:42:23.659
I'm selling it to Google.
886
00:42:24.059 --> 00:42:25.719
Cause if I break it, I could buy another TV
887
00:42:25.739 --> 00:42:25.920
for $ 300.
888
00:42:25.860 --> 00:42:31.610
Yeah. I went through, so when we, you know, had
889
00:42:31.630 --> 00:42:33.170
to go to Huntington Beach to take care of the
890
00:42:33.190 --> 00:42:35.809
house that we have out there, my son had just
891
00:42:35.869 --> 00:42:38.849
moved out, so it was cleaning time. We had to basically,
892
00:42:38.869 --> 00:42:41.489
you know, go in, clean up, pick up things, and
893
00:42:41.929 --> 00:42:44.190
he left a lot of Dungeons & Dragons stuff, which
894
00:42:44.210 --> 00:42:46.730
I'm going to be giving to Sean, and I'm going
895
00:42:46.750 --> 00:42:49.719
to find some stuff to give to Justin, but that's
896
00:42:49.739 --> 00:42:51.099
why I just said, I'm going to give you stuff.
897
00:42:51.139 --> 00:42:53.599
Look at you, throwing up your arms. But I know
898
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:56.539
the Dungeons & Dragons stuff would please Sean very much.
899
00:42:58.809 --> 00:43:01.630
We didn't have a TV. So we're staying in the house.
900
00:43:02.070 --> 00:43:05.179
There's no TV in the house, you know? And I thought, well,
901
00:43:05.380 --> 00:43:07.880
what are we going to do? So we ran to
902
00:43:07.900 --> 00:43:12.639
Walmart and Gary, I totally understand what he's saying. Go
903
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:15.019
to Walmart and they had an own TV. O N
904
00:43:15.139 --> 00:43:17.420
N that's, I believe that's Walmart's brand. I may be,
905
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:21.019
maybe off. And it was like 66 bucks on sale
906
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:22.960
marked down from 88, 32 inch, you know, uh, 10 ADP,
907
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:28.980
not seven 20. Okay, let's just get this. So we
908
00:43:29.019 --> 00:43:30.880
picked it up, took it home and I was going
909
00:43:30.900 --> 00:43:33.880
through the setup and it required me to set it
910
00:43:34.019 --> 00:43:37.440
up with an account, a Walmart account. And I thought
911
00:43:37.460 --> 00:43:40.179
that was the weirdest thing. It wouldn't let me bypass
912
00:43:40.300 --> 00:43:43.789
it to be able to watch this TV with that.
913
00:43:44.269 --> 00:43:46.469
So of course I created a return. Yeah, well, no,
914
00:43:46.489 --> 00:43:49.489
I just created a fake account and I went ahead
915
00:43:49.929 --> 00:43:51.730
and got it all set up and I was able
916
00:43:51.769 --> 00:43:55.050
to watch TV. It was no big deal, but it,
917
00:43:55.750 --> 00:43:58.409
when I, when I, It was kind of bothering me,
918
00:43:58.889 --> 00:44:00.730
and I remember going and looking at the box, and
919
00:44:00.769 --> 00:44:04.829
it said on the box, you have to create an account.
920
00:44:06.090 --> 00:44:09.599
When we got Gary's note, this was like a couple
921
00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:13.980
weeks ago, I went ahead and I was in Walmart,
922
00:44:14.099 --> 00:44:17.199
and I looked, every single TV on there said, you
923
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:22.730
must create an account. A Walmart account? It's a Walmart account. So,
924
00:44:22.929 --> 00:44:25.300
and I, I don't know if it was Walmart account,
925
00:44:25.340 --> 00:44:27.760
a Vizio account, but either way. But then again, you
926
00:44:27.780 --> 00:44:30.719
just said what a 60 inch TV for 85 bucks.
927
00:44:31.139 --> 00:44:33.940
That's why. Yeah. What were you saying, Sean?
928
00:44:34.820 --> 00:44:37.739
I wouldn't. That's why I don't shop at Walmart, I guess. Yeah.
929
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:39.460
I haven't, I don't, can't remember the last time I
930
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:40.239
was in a Walmart.
931
00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:42.579
Yeah. I mean, I don't remember. Oh, look at you, Mr.
932
00:44:42.659 --> 00:44:47.559
Fancy Pants. Come on. You got to go for the
933
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:50.800
chicken nuggets at least. You know, those are good. You
934
00:44:50.820 --> 00:44:55.920
got to have those. But no, I still have the TV.
935
00:44:55.980 --> 00:44:58.440
It's here in the studio. We never took it back.
936
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:00.820
And I thought, well, maybe I could hang it up
937
00:45:01.059 --> 00:45:03.820
on the wall in the office and have a TV there.
938
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:07.380
I already set up the account. It's basically a dummy
939
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:11.539
account to a Gmail address. And that was it. So... Sure.
940
00:45:11.619 --> 00:45:13.699
I guess, yeah, you could do that. But, you know,
941
00:45:13.780 --> 00:45:15.619
that also brings up a little bit of a kind
942
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:18.179
of a side topic. If you really want to mess
943
00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:21.800
with some of these advertisers, you know, some of these emails,
944
00:45:21.929 --> 00:45:25.110
even Gmail will do it. I forget exactly how you
945
00:45:25.130 --> 00:45:28.449
do it. I think what it is, is if you
946
00:45:28.489 --> 00:45:32.369
sign up for something that requires your email, let's say,
947
00:45:32.510 --> 00:45:38.469
for instance, my email was just simply justinlemme at gmail.com,
948
00:45:38.489 --> 00:45:41.469
which it's not. But if it was just justinlemme at gmail.com,
949
00:45:41.829 --> 00:45:43.630
if I were to put and sign up for, let's say,
950
00:45:43.670 --> 00:45:46.730
this Walmart TV, and I register an account, and I say,
951
00:45:47.230 --> 00:45:52.679
justinlemme plus Walmart, use the plus symbol, walmart at gmail.com,
952
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:58.760
Gmail automatically ignores the plus symbol and anything after it. However,
953
00:45:59.380 --> 00:46:03.400
when you get emails sent to that account, it lists...
954
00:46:03.429 --> 00:46:04.420
that full thing.
955
00:46:04.659 --> 00:46:07.199
So what you can then do with that is you
956
00:46:07.219 --> 00:46:11.309
can understand who is selling your information. So you can
957
00:46:11.329 --> 00:46:14.550
keep yourself a little spreadsheet and say, okay, for this account,
958
00:46:14.670 --> 00:46:18.929
I used plus one, two, three, four. For that account
959
00:46:18.969 --> 00:46:23.429
I used, plus 56789. And then you keep track. Who
960
00:46:23.489 --> 00:46:25.800
did I give that email to? Because that's the only
961
00:46:25.889 --> 00:46:28.280
one I've ever given that email to. And now all
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of a sudden, I'm getting hundreds of spam emails sent
963
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to that address. Now you know who's selling your information.
964
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:38.599
That's actually a very good tip. I like that. So
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00:46:39.139 --> 00:46:41.760
where would you buy? If you're not buying at a Walmart,
966
00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:46.059
where do you buy your TVs? Costco. Oh, Costco, yeah.
967
00:46:46.630 --> 00:46:49.940
Have you looked to see if they require that? No,
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00:46:50.019 --> 00:46:54.179
they don't. I've bought three, two, two TVs from Costco.
969
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:54.670
Right.
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00:46:54.690 --> 00:46:54.789
Yeah.
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00:46:55.340 --> 00:46:57.179
The only thing, like I said, the only thing we
972
00:46:57.199 --> 00:46:59.500
had to do was we signed over their Google because
973
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:01.780
it made sense with the Google TV with the Google OS.
974
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:03.820
Right. Yeah. No, actually I take it back.
975
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:05.820
I bought one from Best Buy and Best Buy also
976
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:08.320
did not require me to create a Best Buy account
977
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to sign into their TV.
978
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:10.659
Ever having to do that.
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00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:13.480
Well, I also bought a premium model too. I didn't
980
00:47:13.500 --> 00:47:16.969
buy one of their floor shelf, you know, Best Buy brands,
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00:47:17.030 --> 00:47:21.250
Insignia or whatever theirs is. I bought a, like a sharp,
982
00:47:21.630 --> 00:47:25.260
a 75 inch sharp, you know, OLED TV you know,
983
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:27.579
for a premium price. So if you're paying a premium price,
984
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:29.559
you're going to get the product without all the extra,
985
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:35.139
as Sean so eloquently said, BS. But if you're paying
986
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:37.619
that cheap, you know, oh my God, a 75 inch
987
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:41.380
for 88 bucks, that's a steal. Yeah, they're stealing something,
988
00:47:41.420 --> 00:47:41.780
all right.
989
00:47:44.090 --> 00:47:47.610
Kind of wonder though, when you buy a used television,
990
00:47:48.170 --> 00:47:52.010
an open box, I mean, if somebody's taken that, used it,
991
00:47:52.110 --> 00:47:54.219
set it up, returned it, Sean, you talked about the
992
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:57.900
logic board info. Could that information be harvested off of there?
993
00:47:58.559 --> 00:47:59.539
Sure, it could be.
994
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:02.199
Or what if somebody added something to it? What if
995
00:48:02.219 --> 00:48:06.670
they added a microphone listening device? Oh, that's a good thought. Yeah.
996
00:48:06.769 --> 00:48:10.550
So, I mean, I just didn't want to take any chances,
997
00:48:10.630 --> 00:48:15.190
so I'll probably just shred it or punch all the
998
00:48:15.230 --> 00:48:16.650
logic chips or something. I don't know. I don't know
999
00:48:16.670 --> 00:48:18.420
what I'm going to do with it yet.
1000
00:48:18.489 --> 00:48:22.070
Usually, when I buy a brand new television... The first
1001
00:48:22.090 --> 00:48:23.659
thing I do is I take it apart and I
1002
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smash the logic board.
1003
00:48:25.030 --> 00:48:25.590
First thing I do.
1004
00:48:25.610 --> 00:48:25.900
What?
1005
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:27.380
As soon as I buy a brand new TV. Really?
1006
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:29.559
Smash the logic board. And then I put it up
1007
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on the wall and then I wonder why it's not working.
1008
00:48:32.260 --> 00:48:37.280
I haven't figured that out yet. Took a little while
1009
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:42.000
to get there, but yeah. No surprising there. I don't
1010
00:48:42.019 --> 00:48:44.639
know if any of you do graphics at all or
1011
00:48:44.659 --> 00:48:47.469
you play around with the graphics world. There is a graphic.
1012
00:48:47.489 --> 00:48:50.579
We've talked about it. We're video gamers. I know, but
1013
00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:54.079
there's a graphic program out there I want to mention. Oh, okay.
1014
00:48:54.260 --> 00:48:57.440
Remove BG. And Sean, I don't know if you've ever
1015
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:02.019
used this yet. Remove BG was a very easy way
1016
00:49:02.059 --> 00:49:04.760
for you to take a photo, pop it into the program,
1017
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:08.030
and actually remove the background from a photo. And I
1018
00:49:08.170 --> 00:49:10.070
featured it once on a segment on Fox 11. It
1019
00:49:10.110 --> 00:49:14.150
was pretty cool. They got bought by Canva, which is
1020
00:49:14.190 --> 00:49:18.880
kind of neat. And now RemoveBG, the standalone website, is
1021
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:22.840
going away, which it's been neat because it's been super convenient.
1022
00:49:23.340 --> 00:49:26.179
You could do generations for free, say, I want to
1023
00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:28.780
get this done, but now you'd have to do it
1024
00:49:28.820 --> 00:49:32.639
through the Canva as of December 1st. So if you
1025
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:36.409
want to experiment with that, test it out, I recommend
1026
00:49:36.449 --> 00:49:39.800
go to remove.bg for doing it. I did it and
1027
00:49:39.820 --> 00:49:42.800
I thought it was really good. I thought it was perfect.
1028
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:45.000
And it's, you know, one of those things that some
1029
00:49:45.019 --> 00:49:48.139
of these smaller companies, big company comes around like Canva,
1030
00:49:48.179 --> 00:49:50.530
comes up and buys them. Another one that happened and
1031
00:49:50.590 --> 00:49:54.650
now they are officially a part of Adobe is Topaz.
1032
00:49:55.849 --> 00:49:58.809
And we've looked at Topaz. I've used Topaz and I'm
1033
00:49:58.869 --> 00:50:01.780
so amazed by Topaz video. But a lot of the
1034
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:04.940
people that I've worked with when they were at Topaz
1035
00:50:05.340 --> 00:50:07.860
are now a part of the Adobe family because they
1036
00:50:08.219 --> 00:50:11.079
have completely taken that over. We'll start to see some
1037
00:50:11.099 --> 00:50:16.079
of those generation products within the Adobe Premiere Suite, Adobe Photoshop,
1038
00:50:16.139 --> 00:50:18.280
and some of those other things. I'm just hoping they
1039
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:23.260
keep the quality as good. You keep saying Adobe family.
1040
00:50:24.389 --> 00:50:28.369
I would prefer to say more... The Adobe cult. There
1041
00:50:28.389 --> 00:50:28.809
you go.
1042
00:50:29.389 --> 00:50:30.630
The Adobe mob family.
1043
00:50:30.650 --> 00:50:33.889
The Adobe mob family. The mafia. The Adobe mafia. You
1044
00:50:33.929 --> 00:50:35.639
want to leave us? It's going to cost you a
1045
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:38.460
hundred dollars. Yeah. Don't make me call my goons.
1046
00:50:38.500 --> 00:50:39.239
That's true.
1047
00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:44.340
You want to cancel? That's not possible. Go on. Yeah.
1048
00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:46.480
Good luck getting rid of your Adobe sass.
1049
00:50:47.699 --> 00:50:48.090
Oh, yeah.
1050
00:50:48.610 --> 00:50:48.760
Yeah.
1051
00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:51.789
One of the things you're doing now is, so say
1052
00:50:51.809 --> 00:50:54.650
you take an image and a part of it is generated.
1053
00:50:55.889 --> 00:50:58.460
And a part of it, but you've done the graphics,
1054
00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:01.639
you've done the lettering, you've done all these great things.
1055
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:06.199
It will now declare that image as AI. So anywhere
1056
00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:09.719
you post it, it will say AI generated content. So
1057
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:12.150
if you're going to Facebook, if you go into Instagram,
1058
00:51:12.570 --> 00:51:15.630
it will tell that, hey, this is AI. I mean,
1059
00:51:15.670 --> 00:51:18.670
they tell it, it's not up to you. They let
1060
00:51:18.989 --> 00:51:23.070
that company know. Some people have said, okay, well, what
1061
00:51:23.110 --> 00:51:26.239
if I put it into another platform? program to edit.
1062
00:51:26.519 --> 00:51:30.139
You may be able to bypass it, but again, that
1063
00:51:30.179 --> 00:51:32.869
is something now that Adobe does right off the bat,
1064
00:51:33.130 --> 00:51:36.090
it will say. And you go to hit save or export,
1065
00:51:36.570 --> 00:51:40.469
and you'll see, there it says AI, right there. So
1066
00:51:40.550 --> 00:51:42.610
right away, you know, people tend to look at the
1067
00:51:42.690 --> 00:51:47.130
AI and right away say, you know, I'm maybe not
1068
00:51:47.150 --> 00:51:50.630
going to click through because they're getting just AI overload.
1069
00:51:50.650 --> 00:51:52.389
I don't know if you guys agree with that, but
1070
00:51:52.409 --> 00:51:54.480
I think I think that's what's happening. Yeah, but I
1071
00:51:54.500 --> 00:51:55.500
think it is. Yeah.
1072
00:51:55.539 --> 00:51:57.820
I mean, if you're generating something using your own, but yes,
1073
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:02.219
I mean, it's using AI generative tools to create that.
1074
00:52:02.739 --> 00:52:04.800
Yeah. I can see that. Yeah. Yeah. All right. We're
1075
00:52:04.820 --> 00:52:07.880
going to take it away. Take another quick break. Sorry.
1076
00:52:08.099 --> 00:52:10.119
Take away work from what? I was going to say,
1077
00:52:10.179 --> 00:52:13.320
it takes away work from graphic artists. Yeah. But some
1078
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:16.820
graphic artists are, some, I'm not saying all only graphic artists,
1079
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:19.760
so you're mad at me. Some are using elements to
1080
00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:22.420
do that. Sure. And, um, But again, it's something to
1081
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:23.889
think about. All right, we're going to take a break.
1082
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We come back with more of Tech Talk Radio. I'm
1083
00:52:26.050 --> 00:52:26.550
Andy Taylor.
1084
00:52:27.230 --> 00:52:27.969
I'm Sean DeWeerd.
1085
00:52:28.349 --> 00:52:30.849
And I'm Justin. Let me find us on Facebook, forward
1086
00:52:30.909 --> 00:52:34.489
slash Tech Talkers. Be right back. And now, back to
1087
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:35.659
Tech Talk Radio.
1088
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:38.280
All right, so for the final segment of Tech Talk Radio,
1089
00:52:38.300 --> 00:52:40.559
we're talking about.
1090
00:52:42.389 --> 00:52:45.070
Well, hold on here a second. You look a little distracted, Justin.
1091
00:52:45.269 --> 00:52:47.550
I'm distracted by the website of the week here because
1092
00:52:47.610 --> 00:52:50.670
I'm playing Solitaire. So there's a website. Oh, no, no,
1093
00:52:50.690 --> 00:52:53.860
don't put that there. Everybody, everybody, you've got to follow
1094
00:52:53.889 --> 00:52:57.000
this and log this in. It is so cool. All right.
1095
00:52:57.079 --> 00:53:06.699
It's a website called solitairealonentogether.com. I know it sounds crazy. Solitairealonentogether.com. Okay,
1096
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:12.150
can you spell solitaire, please? S-O-L-I-T-A-I-R-E.
1097
00:53:12.530 --> 00:53:13.190
All right.
1098
00:53:13.329 --> 00:53:19.269
SolitaireAloneTogether.com. All right. So it takes you back to like
1099
00:53:19.309 --> 00:53:22.409
a Windows 98 machine. It's like a virtual machine in
1100
00:53:22.429 --> 00:53:23.429
your browser. Right.
1101
00:53:23.780 --> 00:53:28.380
And it automatically launches the game of Solitaire from Windows 98. However,
1102
00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:32.260
it then launches a bunch of other Solitaire games and
1103
00:53:32.300 --> 00:53:34.639
you're actually playing with real people.
1104
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:39.360
Oh, man. If you're watching our video here, Sean, Sean
1105
00:53:39.420 --> 00:53:42.719
is showing what it looks like, and he's actually playing
1106
00:53:42.739 --> 00:53:45.699
a game right now, as well as I am, but
1107
00:53:46.179 --> 00:53:49.440
you can actually play Solitaire with other people. Now, you
1108
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:52.079
can't interact with their game, but you can at least
1109
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:55.159
see what they're doing. Can you interact with the people?
1110
00:53:55.179 --> 00:53:57.780
I don't think so. I don't think so.
1111
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:00.400
It doesn't seem like that, but I got shafted here, man.
1112
00:54:00.420 --> 00:54:02.019
I got a bad hand.
1113
00:54:03.500 --> 00:54:06.039
Yeah, I'm playing right now, and I'm doing okay, but.
1114
00:54:06.059 --> 00:54:06.940
My faces are buried.
1115
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:09.559
Like....
1116
00:54:09.099 --> 00:54:10.139
That was... You know, that was.
1117
00:54:10.159 --> 00:54:10.920
I got nothing to work with.
1118
00:54:11.019 --> 00:54:14.710
That was the best part about playing Solitaire on the computer, was, like,
1119
00:54:15.030 --> 00:54:16.849
when you finish, it would just, like, the cards would
1120
00:54:16.909 --> 00:54:19.070
fly off. That was the part I liked the most.
1121
00:54:19.469 --> 00:54:21.829
That was... Yeah. That was cool. So how many games
1122
00:54:21.849 --> 00:54:24.090
you got going on right now? I just... Well, I
1123
00:54:24.130 --> 00:54:26.320
only have the one game, and Sean, you can only
1124
00:54:26.340 --> 00:54:28.199
play one game at a time, but all those other
1125
00:54:28.260 --> 00:54:30.690
windows are other people that are actually playing alongside you.
1126
00:54:30.699 --> 00:54:32.460
They're real people that are playing. Yeah. Real people.
1127
00:54:32.500 --> 00:54:32.760
Oh, man.
1128
00:54:33.570 --> 00:54:36.719
Wow. All right. Yeah. And is it cost anything to
1129
00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:37.159
play this?
1130
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:37.449
Nope.
1131
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:38.219
Not at all.
1132
00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:39.739
It's free. I just typed in the IP.
1133
00:54:39.800 --> 00:54:45.260
And you don't even have to sign up. Just solitairealonentogether.com.
1134
00:54:45.659 --> 00:54:45.880
All right.
1135
00:54:45.900 --> 00:54:48.059
That's it for this week's show. Thank you for tuning in.
1136
00:54:48.179 --> 00:54:50.460
You get your, you know, we love answering your questions.
1137
00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:55.460
So please get them into us, techguys at techtalkradio.com. I'm
1138
00:54:55.500 --> 00:54:56.039
Andy Taylor.
1139
00:54:56.679 --> 00:54:57.380
I'm Sean DeWeer.
1140
00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:01.039
And I'm Justin Lemme. Find us on the web, techtalkradio.com.
1141
00:55:01.099 --> 00:55:02.000
Have yourselves a great week.
1142
00:55:02.300 --> 00:55:02.559
See you.