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We know how the story of the Moore's murderers, Myra
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Hindley and Ian Brady ends, But what do we know
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of how it began? How did an ordinary working class
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Manchester girl end up killing five children. Those who grew
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up alongside her, those who studied her mind, and the
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families of Myra's victims shed new light on her descent
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into darkness.
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Mayra's dad said to my dad, I've made a monster, John,
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I've made a monster.
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From their testimony, we've dramatized the events that turned her
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into an icon of evil. Inseparable from Ian Brady, she.
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Was very submissive to him.
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Whether she thought she was getting the love she deserved
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and that's what she thought love was, I don't know.
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Myra's childhood was toughened by a lack of life.
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Rather than having a soft and giving mother to kind
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of balance out the rather domineering father, her mother was
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also combative.
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Myyra encountered death at an early age.
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He was gray, he was white. I put my eyes
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into the coffin and I just looked away.
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Hindley's unpublished autobiography reveals intimate details of her relationship with Brady.
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It was clear to her for the moment that he
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pressed his mouth to her, that he never kissed anyone
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before he bruised her with his teeth. He hurt her.
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This is the story of a love affair turned toxic,
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of a couple withdrawn into a secret world of perverted
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and violent fantasy made reality, and of how they devised
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a plan for murder which would draw five children to
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their death. During Mayra's childhood, money was short, but community
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spirit was strong. Born in nineteen forty two, she lived
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in Gorton, one of the poorest districts in Manchester. Liz Cummins,
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the cousin of Moore's victim Pauline Reed, lived just across
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the road.
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There was the happiest days of my life growing up
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in Gorton. We had nothing but everybody. It was like
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one big family, but for.
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Myra, For anyone on those streets, violence was there if
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you went looking for it. Not everyone did. Not everyone
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stood their ground when they found it. Not everyone grew
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into a child killer.
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The area where Maria lift, which was near the monastery,
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was very small houses. You could hear everything that was
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set next.
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Door through the walls.
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They were suppose what you called today slums.
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It got to the stairs where we were all sleeping
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in Samburg, the girls as well as the diegon Or.
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We all got just sleeping in Salemburg until growlingly grand
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and moved over.
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That was so close we were.
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You'd always were left horn kids running out of everybody's houses,
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and that it was called nothing got touch.
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But this was post war Manchester and the heavy industry
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on which many families depended was in decline.
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People did argue.
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I remember dad's even having arguments on streets and over kids,
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and then and then the dad's never spoke and the
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kids got friends again. It was that type of community.
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Myra was a little bit older than me.
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But in the same group of friends.
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Myra was probably the loudest in the group, and bold
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and brush.
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She and her younger sister Maureen were brought up by
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their mother Nelly and their father Bob, just back from
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the war.
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You would hear Nelly at the end of the street
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because she's out. I think that's where Mala gets the
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loudness from.
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Much of the information about Myra's childhood comes from Myra
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herself when she was in jail. Her accounts should be
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treated with caution. She was seeking to make excuses shape
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public opinion, and when released from prison, she described her
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childhood to Duncan's staff. A journalist give an exclusive access
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to her papers and unpublished autobiography in which she blames
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her father for the way he shaped her personality.
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She disliked him intensely. On the other hand, she could
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see herself in him. He was a tough man, a
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hard man. He'd fought in North Africa, and when he
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came home he was working in a menial job, doing
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manual labor. He simply wasn't able to cope with the adjustment.
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He dealt with this by drinking very heavily and by
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slapping Mayra's mother around. He also hit Myra, whereas he
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was softer on more.
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They felt they couldn't really cope with Myra. For whatever reason,
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it may have been within Myra that the problem actually lay,
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or may have been that the parents were very poor
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at coping.
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To ease tensions. Myra, but not Maureen, was sent to
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live with her grand around the corner.
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Myra would have seen this as the arrival of Maureen
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and she being rejected pushed away.
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She loved her grandmother and was very happy there, but
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she felt alienated in a sense from her family background.
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And from the world which had created her.
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Myra claimed her father increasingly turned to drink, often that
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the steel works tavern, which still stands. She said, tensions
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between her parents deepened.
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He'd come back from the steel workers or steely and
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hit Mara's mum Nelly. Every night.
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I could go with a drink.
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Maya and her grandmother would wait outside and would listen
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with the sound of raised voices and a start for fight.
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Then they dash in and Mara would try and pull
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Bob off Nelly, while her grandmother hit her father repeatedly
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to try and end the fight.
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Myra herself was often shouted at for her trouble.
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Rather than having a soft and giving mother to kind
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of balance out the rather violent, domineering father. Her mother
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was also combative.
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There was one way in which Bob Hendley must have
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felt he was helping his daughter.
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He taught her how to fight. He taught her how
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to do the type of thing that he himself was
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doing to Mayra's mother.
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She picks out his reaction to one street fight in
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particular as a turning point. She recounts in detail the
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exchange that followed.
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Myra expected her father to protect her and stand up
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for her because he was this powerful figure within her life.
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He did the reverse.
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I'm gonna thought to yourself, because you're a big girl.
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Now, Myra, I'll tell you what.
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You're gonna go out there.
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You're gonna lead him Bye.
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I'm gonna let it, you dount.
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She was on her own, but armed with her father's
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fighting technique. Decades later, she could still recall the exact
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sequence of blows. A left to the head, a right
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to the stomach, a left to the temple, which led
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to victory.
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She learned that dominating someone was an important part of
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establishing herself and her own self worth.
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She'd done what her father had asked of her, and
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he ruffled her hair, He congratulated her, He gave her approval,
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and this is what Myra craved.
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She was rewarded by her father, who basically had created
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a loop within her to realize that you could influence
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the world outside by brutal force.
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Though Myra made much of this, her father wasn't unique.
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Mary Smith, who grew up nearby, is the widow of
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the man once married to Myra's sister Marien.
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If you came home and you'd been tied in, and
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the first question out of her mum's mouth would be
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did you win? And if you didn't win, then you'd
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be sent out to go out and to win, and
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so you'd have to stand your ground. You'd have to do.
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Myra may claim to have been toughened by the lack
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of love from her parents, but it would be Ian
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Brady who would unleash her darkest desires. He though was
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still years away, and other tragic events awaited Myra before
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the two would meet. As a child, Myra Hindley built
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a reputation as a street fighter. In her unpublished autobiography,
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she insists this tough background and her violent father provided
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an excuse for what was to come. But that doesn't
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wash with Mary Smith, widow of the man who was
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once Mayer's brother in law.
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I would find that absolutely ridiculous, because then more than
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half ninety percent of all girls and boys that was
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reared in that day and age should have become serial
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killers then, because we was all sent out to look
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after ourselves.
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The truth, according to those who knew Myra, is that
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something in her personality set her apart.
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She had no empathy for anybody else. If somebody hurt themselves,
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it wouldn't upset her or anything like that, and if
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anybody upsets her, she'd lash out and hit them.
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And that's how she was.
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I think she could handle her self mirror.
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Very much.
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She wasn't scared of anything or anybody.
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Mayra's reputation as a fighter made her a target. Other kids,
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often bigger, wanted to prove themselves against her. On one occasion,
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a boy heard she'd been treated for knits n nell.
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Initially he got the better of her. She shouted at
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him to break.
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She recalled how he had failed to beat obay the
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street fighting rules when he should have broken, He didn't
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break and continued to hit her. So she punished him
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for this by grabbing him by the head and slamming
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it repeatedly into the ground.
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She was going to pumbl him beyond his life's worth.
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There was a potential that was not restrained by emotional expression,
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which could point to a deficit that was always there
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in Myra. That coolness, that callous lack of empathy. That
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meant she had the potential all the way through her
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life to do serious damage.
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Myra claimed her prowess gave her a new role on
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the streets.
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She cheated certain status and took upon herself the role
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of protector.
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Often it would be her sister Maureen she protected with
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tragic irony. She did the same for Maureen's friend Pauline Reed,
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but just a decade later, Myra would choose Pauline to
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become the first Mau's victim. If Myra was fiercer than
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many children, she was also brighter.
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An interesting question is whether a better education would have
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saved Myra Hindley.
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She escaped inwardly from the turbulence of her life into
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a world of fiction. She'd shut herself away with the
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children's classics of the time, Beatrix Potter and Enid Blyton,
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than the Secret Garden and Swallows in Amazons.
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She sought something beyond, something that was beyond the ordinary life.
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She wanted to touch on a greater power. She tried
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this with religion, but she also saw in literature to
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go beyond the simple reality.
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Myra went to Sunday School at Saint Francis's Monastery nearby.
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She and her father wanted her to go there for
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her secondary education, but her mother disagreement. In the end,
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Mayra's mother got her way. Myra was entered for the
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eleventh plus, but recalled. She had to sit the exam
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at a school for middle class children in another part
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of Manchester. She claimed she felt overwhelmed and failed. As
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her mother had wished, She was sent to the local
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multi faith Secondary Modern. Now a teenager, much in demand
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as a babysitter, Myra took a back seat at school,
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still enjoying English literature, but truanting regularly.
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She wasn't a very community person. Even at school.
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She didn't mix very well. It was if she was
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looking for something and couldn't find it.
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She tended to avoid girls and hang around with boys,
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including Alan Grafton.
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Myra was, in my opinion, more of a tomboy than
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the other girls. Don't think that many of the lads
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at that time really took a fancy to Myra, as
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she was loud, she could fight. They just didn't want
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to get involved, I don't think. But at that particular time,
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Myra had this crush on one of our friends called
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Michae Higgins. Nice lad was Michael, and everybody liked Michael.
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At thirteen, was two years younger than Myra. The pair
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were inseparable.
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Was always together, very good friends.
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You used to take him to the park and you
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used to take him swiming, and the same initials as well,
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which made a difference.
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You know.
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Myra was a strong swimmer and looked after Michael tragedy
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struck the day she decided not to go with him.
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Unfortunately, Michael, on one sunny day went to Dubdale Parking
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Garden where they've got some reservoirs and went for a
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swim with some friends.
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And Michael never come home.
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Apparently the currents of that reservoir took his life's.
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Michael, who'd been with two other boys, had swum far
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out from the bank and got cramp in the deep
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cold water. Police frogmen recover his body.
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That evening, she was devastated about Michael's death. Everybody was
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devastated about him because he was a lovely lad.
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She felt that she should have been there. She said
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she would be there. She was, and she would have
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saved him if she was there. That's the scenario.
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That night, Mayra climbed into bed with her gram in
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a nightmare about Michael. She was diving underwater trying to
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save him, grabbing his hair, but it was too short
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and then she too was sinking, gulping lungfuls of water.
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Mara describes many nightmares and almost surreal moments where she
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felt she was re enacting the scenario of Michael's death
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as if really trying to physically place her presence at
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the scene and do something about it. But she also
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had it as an obsessive, intrusive thought, almost as something
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which would normal people would want to push away. But
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I think Myra actually saw this as a kind of
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vision of another world, a world in which she could
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perhaps almost do supernatural things.
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In morning, he can remember everybody knocking film people's doors
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saying Michael Wiggins is drowned. And Myra was very, very
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upset about that, because Myra, i think, in All the Girls,
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was the closest to Michael.
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Michael's body was laid out in his front room. His
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friends were invited in.
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He was gray, he was white. I put my eyes
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into the coffin and I just looked away, and I
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tried to get out of the house as soon as
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I could. I was that upset and shocked about seeing
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the body in the coffin. I've never been to see
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anybody else.
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Myra too was shown the body.
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She described in great and very unusual detail, the sight
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of Michael lying in the coffin, the light falling on
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his face, and how she could see a sliver of
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his eye. It's very striking. This detailed this almost obsession
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with death.
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Michael's mother pulled the rosary beads from his fingers and
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handed them to her. Though Myra had blamed herself, after
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seeing Michael's body, her reaction to the death changed.
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It became something which fired up anger, which was directed
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as others, not at herself.
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She wanted to take.
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Out her feelings hair of frustrations on others. She forcefully
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gathered money for a wreath, often in a very threatening
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and menacing way, which was disturbing considering the fact that
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she should have been distraught, quiet and sorrowful.
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She wasn't. One evening, she was convinced she'd seen Michael
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staring at her. She ran to him, but he'd vanished.
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Detailed and vivid descriptions of death abound in Myra's unpublished autobiography.
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A dog she found decapitated by a railway line, a
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boy she watched bleeding to death after being crushed by
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a lorry, a cat torn in half by two dogs.
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The reason it was never published is that her supporters
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looked at this material. They saw it that in fact
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betrayed her. It did her damage because it showed that
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she was an unusual person who was familiar with and
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comfortable with scenes of extreme violence and death.
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After Michael's death, Myra immersed herself in religion.
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She became obsessed about it. She visited the church all
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the time. Once she'd focused on something, she'd locked onto
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it totally.
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But her friends felt she still hadn't found what she
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was seeking. A new Myra emerged. She left school, took
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a job as a typist, and infamously dyed her hair
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peroxide blonde.
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It as if she was looking for love, and all
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I can think is that she didn't get sist at home,
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so she's tried to find it.
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But she wanted a male of nothing else.
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After a series of relationships, she ended up with a
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boy called Ronnie Sinclair. Despite Mayra's reputation, he had dared
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to tug her hair in the cinema.
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Ronnie asked her would he marry her, and they got
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rings and they're engaged to be married. But Mara felt
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that the relationship was moving forward in a way that
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was expected or further, somehow she would have to marry
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Ronnie and she didn't really want that.
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At home, Myra's sister Maureen also had a new boyfriend,
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and the dynamic of the family was changing forever. After
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a stroke which left him a semi invalid and embittered,
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Mayra's father, Bob, was continuing to vent his frustration on
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Myra's mother, Maureen, knew the consequences if Myra found out.
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Maureen's boyfriend, David Smith, would later play a pivotal role
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in bringing the Moore's murderers to justice. He's going to
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listen to me.
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For me, it's not mildthread.
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He didn't really want to go to the house because
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he didn't want to get involved with it.
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In his memoirs, David Smith describes in detail the moment
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he witnessed the Hindley family and Myra in their true colours. David,
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a fifteen year old, was being asked to soothe matters
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before Myra got wind of what had happened. He was
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too late.
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David went there just in time to see that Myra
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enter the situation, marchinging and in immediately dominating the household
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and her father, humiliating him, stating that if he made
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one move again, she would not only strike him back,
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she would put him into hospital or even the cemetery.
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The intent and the dominance and the callous disregard for
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another human being, which it includes her own parent was
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already there. This reversed the early childhood dominance by her father. Okay,
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this was in defense of her mother. However, here she
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was showing the same callous regard for her own father
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that once upon a time he showed her.
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Years later, Myra described how she was feeling trapped at
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this time, age nineteen. She tried changing jobs and a
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ride for interview at a company in Gorton called Millwood's Merchandising.
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That was finees simily, this will be your desk.
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Her friend had already told her of a shy, intriguing
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man who worked.
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When humans initially bond, we're going back to primordial times.
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We don't have time for long winded introductions. In fact,
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we often will make immediate emotional bonding contact with someone
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within a split second.
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Myras is Ian, Ian is Myra.
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This happened with Myra Hindley when she first saw Ian
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Brady to meet. He was not just simply a fairly
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good looking guy, but he had a strange aloof cool nature,
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one where he would be more elusive than engaging, one
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where he would look quite dismissive rather than interested. This
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drew her in.
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Mara Hindley was instantly smitten with Ian Brady, and when
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she met her friends that night, she couldn't stop talking
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about him. It was Ian this, e and that, and
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that went on for a very long time afterwards.
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In her autobiography, she describes walking home, glancing through wind
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and seeing hum drum scenes of the ordinary life she
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could expect if she married Ronnie. It no longer felt enough.
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Each step was now taking her in a new and
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lethal direction. When Mara Hindley arrived for her first day
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at Millwood's merchandising in January nineteen sixty one, she already
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knew what she wanted out of the job. It didn't
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immediately go to plan.
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In her unpublished autobography, Mara Hindley wrote, and she was
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completely smitten by Ian, but she simply couldn't understand the
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way he responded to her.
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Thank you for your corporation, etc. And etc.
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She was used to boys, so if they fancied you,
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they immediately told you that they fancied you. Ian held
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himself completely aloof.
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Thank you simply.
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Mara Hindley in later life described this as him deliberately
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exerting controlling behavior because she was trying to paint a
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picture of herself as somebody who was being manipulated by
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Ian Brady from the start. I'm not sure that's right,
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but there's no doubt that he was cold to her.
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To those who had grown up with her in Gordon,
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it was clear Myra had moved on from her street
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fighting days, but her domineering personality remained.
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She used to stand outside Millwood's and we'd be my
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boyfriend except my husband. I'd be walking down lemon Zoom
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Road and even though she knew you, she'd look through you.
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She wouldn't acknowledge that you were there. She just had
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a face of look why marble stone, whatever you want
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to call it.
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To those who knew Myra, Ian who came from Glasgow
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appeared an outsider.
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She probably could have thought he was handsome, but he
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wasn't my type. He was and he was older than
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her as well. He wasn't in our if you know
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what I mean, most people you went around with people
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if your own age, not somebody a lot older than yourself.
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It was very posh.
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He used to look very smart.
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I'm not saying Garden people didn't look smart, but he
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was overdressed for being in garden.
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Now I can always remember this Laod in a corner
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with l for bitter and a war book, And eventually
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that turned out to be Ian Brady. He had a
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moltorbike and no kids had motorbikes, and Maria was interested
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in this ladd on a moltarbike.
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Like Myra Hindley, Ian Brady came from a poor working
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class background, but his background was even more difficult than Myra's.
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His mother was called Peggy, and she was a t
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shop waitress and she got pregnant, It's rumored by a
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newspaper reporter in Glasgow, and she wasn't able to cope
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with the fact she had a young child and advertise
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him for adoption in a Newsasians window. So, like Myra,
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he had a sense of dislocation, a sense of rejection
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by by his family.
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Brady was fostered and from an early age began stealing,
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acquiring a string of convictions.
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He was someone who actually again pleasure and thrill from
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committing crimes as opposed to simply profit. This was something
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that he was going to be doing for the rest
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of his life.
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Eventually, a court gave him a choice go to a
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young offenders institution or join his birth mother in Manchester.
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In nineteen fifty four, Ian caught the train from Glasgow
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to Manchester's Victoria station. Six years later, he met Myra
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Hindley at Millwood's. She soon saw another side to the
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cool aloof Ian. At lunchtime, he'd go out to place
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bets and would later call the bookies to get the results.
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His best name was Gorgan Zola later changed to Gorgan,
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and he was fine when he'd won, but when he'd lost,
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he just exploded off christ sick. In these fascis of temper,
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Myra saw something that she was familiar with. It was
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the behavior of her father, and on the one hand
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it repelled her. But on the other hand, it was
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the familiar. It was something that she understood and knew
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how to deal with, so it didn't put her off him,
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and in an odd way, it drew her towards him.
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At other moments. When he did speak, it was not
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to take part in banter, but to expound ideas on
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philosophy and literature, making clear he was a part and superior.
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Myra was fascinated, but Ian appeared oblivious.
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It was not Ian that was actually trying to pick
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up on Myra, or see a potential victim or a colleague.
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Here it was Myra who pursued Ian initially and for
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quite a long time.
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For a time, she effectively stalked Ian, borrowing her aunt's
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baby son and wheeling him up and down Ian Street,
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but she never saw him. Eventually, she decided to show
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Ian she too was interested in big ideas. She went
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to Gorton Library and found a book of Wordsworth poetry
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which she remembered from school. She recalled in detail the
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conversations which followed.
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Word's worth Any good marvus actually, especially long ones might
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get a copy.
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It was a blissful moment for her. This was a
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moment she was determined to capitalize on, and she did
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everything she could to make sure that once he had
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noticed her, he would never stop noticing her, and that
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she would form a relationship with him.
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Do you listen to music?
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Of course, she wanted Ian more than she wanted anything.
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Which all sorts, bit of pop, classical, big bonds.
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Ian Brady used little things to set himself apart from
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his working class background.
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I prefer more craft of music. Sometime the recording from
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the TV library to him. These were tremendously important things.
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So he didn't drink beer, He drank red wine. He
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didn't listen to pop, he listened to classical music.
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You can borrow some sporores if you like technology. Fascinated
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Ian Brady. He had his own recording equipment, his own
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photographic kit and darkroom. Myra began saving for her own
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tape recorder. Years later, she described her obsession with Ian
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to her prison chaplain father, Michael Teeder.
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He introduced her to a different way of life. He
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took her really out of that very poor, working class
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background that she was growing and he showed her other things,
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and I think he was probably an exciting man.
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She had locked her beam onto him. She had an
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unusual personality in that she became obsessed by things.
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She called off her engagement to Ronnie Sinkle, who was distraught.
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He wrung her daily, but she was totally focused on Brady.
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In later years, she came to realize, and she wrote
494
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me about this, that this was a critical moment in
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her life. Had she gone on, had she married Ronnie Sinclair,
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she would probably have grown up an ordinary mother in
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a working class area of Manchester and led a happy life.
498
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But it was not until the office Christmas party in
499
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December nineteen sixty one, almost a year after she joined Millwood's,
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that Myra Hindley's relationship with Ian Brady truly ignited. He
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00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:31.920
asked her to dance.
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00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:36.480
The Christmas party at Millwood's Merchandise was a hard drinking affair.
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They were having a party in a pub. Mayra was
504
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sitting by the edge of the dance door, feeling a
505
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little bit unsteady, and then Ian staggered towards her. He
506
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:46.759
asked her she'd like to dance, and pulled her to
507
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her feet, and they lurched around the dance floor, with
508
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:51.759
him trampling all over her feet. But it was the
509
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:54.240
happiest moment of Myra Hindley's life so far.
510
00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:58.119
After the party, Ian suggested they go on for a drink.
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Then he walked her home.
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Am I coming in.
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00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.160
Now my grand's?
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Myra wrote in detail about her first kiss with Ian Brady.
515
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:13.759
It was clear to her for the moment that he
516
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:16.480
pressed his mouth to her that he'd never kissed anyone before.
517
00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:19.599
He bruised her with his teeth. He hurt her. This
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00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:22.119
was a man who had never had any physical affection before.
519
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:23.279
He can't go.
520
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:26.720
You no longer wanted.
521
00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:35.839
Ah.
522
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:38.079
But if Myra thought she and Ian were an item,
523
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:42.240
he had other ideas. A long pattern of circling each other,
524
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.799
playing on each other's trust, drawing the other inn began
525
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:49.240
to unfold. This remained at the core of their relationship
526
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:50.519
for the rest of their lives.
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00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:53.920
He wouldn't speak to her, he wouldn't recognize her in
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00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:58.480
the office, and then he would suddenly come back and
529
00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:01.160
then pick her up again and make fuss of her
530
00:32:01.480 --> 00:32:03.960
and buyer things and take her out and make her
531
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:06.319
feel special. Then he would drop her and he'd do
532
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:09.039
exactly the same thing again. And I think this is
533
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:12.640
a grooming pattern. It's a way of gaining control over
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00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:15.839
another person. And I think that that was a systematic
535
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:18.480
way that he dealt with her, until finally he felt
536
00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:23.039
that he had controlled over her and that she needed him.
537
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:25.960
When she did agree to have sex with Ian, the
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00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:27.240
encounter was brutal.
539
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:34.720
He bit her repeatedly, rather than be a warm, loving moment.
540
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:40.200
She described in great detail to me how violent this was,
541
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:42.599
how he was rough with her. Now, she was trying
542
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:46.599
to portray herself as somebody who was irresistibly drawn to
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00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:50.079
a man with a dark side, but Whereas most young
544
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:52.519
women confront of the boyfriend who was violent to them
545
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.160
when they lost their virginity, they'd end the relationship. Mara didn't.
546
00:32:56.519 --> 00:33:00.799
There was something brutal about him that fascinated Myra, that
547
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:05.880
actually engaged her, that resonated somewhat with her exchanges with
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00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:11.119
her father, something that was feeding her need to go
549
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:13.319
beyond what others would attain.
550
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:18.960
Myra's acceptance of the dark side of his personality encouraged
551
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.880
him to reveal more. Leiah by Leah Brady drew her
552
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:24.359
deeper into his fantasies.
553
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:26.880
I think it was a damn and spiral as far
554
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:28.079
as she was concerned.
555
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:31.400
Do you know all there was when I kill my
556
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:32.200
cross can.
557
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:35.839
Ken?
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00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:41.079
He changed her, He groomed her. And it's a word
559
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:43.400
which probably wasn't used at the time, but I think
560
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:45.279
we know the meaning of that word now.
561
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:49.759
Threw it from a tower block, screamed all the way down.
562
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:53.880
He had a script in his head and he needed
563
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:56.119
to get her to a point where she was helping
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00:33:56.599 --> 00:33:57.680
to act it out.
565
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:05.279
Couldn't do that anymore. Eh on the O people, Now
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00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:09.719
it's on a higher plaim.
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00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:15.760
Bit by bit Ian revealed to Myra the books, the
568
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.480
ideas through which his fantasies had taken shape, including the
569
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:23.679
Marquis De'ssard, the high priest of Sadism, who preached that violence,
570
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:27.760
and especially sexual violence, were justified because they were pleasurable
571
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:28.719
and natural.
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00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:31.360
Do you know what I thought when I first started
573
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:36.280
not to keep the sad saw?
574
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:43.519
Ian Brady viewed dark, abnormal behavior as something that separated
575
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:47.159
him from his working class background, so he was interested
576
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:50.559
in the Marquis Dessard. He was interested in Pasado Masochism.
577
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:54.000
This is very unusual now. Mara Hindley was able to
578
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:56.880
enter into this world partly because she saw in Ian
579
00:34:57.000 --> 00:34:59.760
Brady a mirror image of her father. So were her
580
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.599
father had beaten her from a young age. Ian Brady
581
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:05.639
beat her during sex, so her childhood had in a
582
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:09.360
sense prepared her to enter this world. With Ian Brady.
583
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:14.559
They withdrew into a private world, apart from a society
584
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:18.679
whose rules they increasingly scorned, but those around them caught
585
00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:21.159
glimpses of how their relationship was developing.
586
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:25.800
She was very submissive to him. Whether she thought she
587
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:31.119
was getting the love she deserved and that's what she
588
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:34.159
thought love was, I don't know. But if he told
589
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:37.880
us to stand on the head. She'd stand on the head.
590
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:39.360
What do you look like here?
591
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:44.840
One summer she was outside Millwood's and she had, you know,
592
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:48.360
fancy top in the shorts gut and he didn't like it,
593
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:51.400
and he made to take it off, and.
594
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:58.719
She took it off to go off now there and
595
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:01.559
then yeah, in the street.
596
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:03.960
Or what was she left with?
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00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:09.280
Wearing an underskirt, a full anthem to skirt, an over.
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00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:10.000
Hour and pants.
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00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:14.679
If he said coal was white, coal was white. And
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00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:16.719
she got on the back of the bank without the
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00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:17.199
clothes on.
602
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:23.599
He gave her a book called The Carpetbaggers by Harold Robbins,
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00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:27.920
which describes in graphic and sickening detail, the rape of
604
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:29.199
a fifteen year old girl.
605
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:33.440
Ian took from the book the notion that rape, incest,
606
00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:35.440
and pedophilia were adventures.
607
00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:38.079
If a mine gets the chance to perform running his
608
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:42.000
axe murder, he should take care.
609
00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:51.039
The couple began to play out their dreams of violence.
610
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:54.679
Although Ian had previously reveled in being cruel to animals,
611
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:58.559
he now decided to become their protector. The couple would
612
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:02.079
read reports of people guilty of animal cruelty, then go
613
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:04.679
on vigilante trips, taking revenge.
614
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:09.719
Ian could justify just being basically vicious and damaging and
615
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:13.599
sadistic towards the people who suppose perpetrators of this.
616
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:20.000
Ian would give those responsible a beating or throw a
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00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:23.239
brick through a window. He and Myra were constructing a
618
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:25.960
world where they did to others as they wished. With
619
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:30.440
each new venture, the next step became imaginable. Many would
620
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:41.159
suffer as a result. Ian Brady was a planner to
621
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:45.960
his fantasies of violent crime. He brought meticulous forethought, but
622
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:50.199
he needed Myra Hindley to make his most horrific fantasies real.
623
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:57.079
Thus heed it.
624
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.960
He found a book called Compulsion about the real life
625
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:04.719
abduction and murder of a Chicago schoolboy by two wealthy,
626
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:08.480
good looking young men who thought the committed the perfect crime,
627
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:09.840
but they were caught.
628
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:11.920
And probably committed the Ian Brady used the book called
629
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:15.599
Compulsion by Maya Levin as a perverse blueprint for the
630
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:18.400
Moore's murders. The book was written as an argument against
631
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:21.920
capital punishment, but Ian Brady read it completely differently. All
632
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:25.239
he did was look at the mistakes that were committed
633
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:28.119
by Leopold and Low of the murderers in the way
634
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:31.639
they carried out the killing. So they abducted somebody from
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00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:34.559
close to their house. They buried them in a drainage
636
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:38.000
ditch where the body would be found when they burnt
637
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:40.880
the face with acid. They didn't do it properly so
638
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:42.559
the victim could still be recognized.
639
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:49.159
He saw their efforts as being futile, immature, error ridden,
640
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:53.360
and not having the great foresight that he himself thought.
641
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:55.000
He heard they were.
642
00:38:54.880 --> 00:39:00.880
Seen at the abduction, had the body blocked properly. Idiots.
643
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:05.920
Years later, Myra described the conversation, it's why you.
644
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:09.280
Do it, your plan. You need to make sure the
645
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:10.559
body is never discovered.
646
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:13.840
They outlined a plan for Mayra to wear a disguise
647
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:17.440
and pick up a child. They then drive to Saddleworth Moore,
648
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:20.960
where the child would be raped, murdered and buried.
649
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:28.719
No, this is going to be the perfect matter.
650
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:50.599
You are gone. They began driving around, picking out potential victims,
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00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:54.679
taking photos and rehearsing what they do.
652
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:08.760
No idea to that, inged Mara Henley, in her later
653
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:11.840
descriptions of the run up to the murders, painted a
654
00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:16.280
picture of herself being forced into the killings and being
655
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:18.840
forced to go out scouting for children.
656
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:21.840
But this went on over a period of time, and
657
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:25.159
it's striking that she didn't pull out, she didn't walk away.
658
00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:29.039
The idea of the perfect murder became part of her
659
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:32.880
sex life. As time went on, what had started as
660
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:36.679
a fantasy became a real possibility. But at this point
661
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:40.159
in Myra's account, she claimed she needed one final push
662
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:44.280
towards murder and that one day she got it. This
663
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:46.000
is her version of what happened.
664
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.559
She wrote how one night she began to feel unwell,
665
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:55.760
she became drowsy, and then she woke up with an
666
00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:59.639
appalling hangover, and it transpired. What happened was he drugged
667
00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:03.159
her use her grandmother's nembutae tablets, and then raped her
668
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:05.000
and photographed her and bitten her.
669
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:12.119
That to be the sleeping tablets? What's sleeping tablets? As
670
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:15.599
completely out of it? You will off of the faeries,
671
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:26.360
you bastard, because you're mine, you're alcohol because I could
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00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:27.719
do whatever I wanted.
673
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:38.440
It's entirely possible. She was a willing, fully awake participant
674
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:41.960
in the photo session and concocted the drugging story to
675
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:45.039
suggest she was at Ian's mercy. She said, a few
676
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:47.039
days later he showed her the photos.
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00:41:48.960 --> 00:42:01.880
I see what I aked and that's tric Dear you're
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00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:02.360
ow gold.
679
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:08.719
Mayra claimed she was so scared she wrote a letter
680
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:11.880
to be given to the police if she disappeared. She
681
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:14.079
said her body would be found in a shallow grave
682
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:17.559
on Saddleworth More. But there's no further evidence of the letter,
683
00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:20.800
and she said she later retrieved and destroyed it.
684
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:24.320
There's a question as to whether that letter ever existed
685
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:26.519
or not. Was it a real letter or was it
686
00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:29.400
simply her trying to portray herself once again as a
687
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:32.760
victim once again. Something didn't really want to carry out
688
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:35.039
these killings, but there's no getting away from the fact
689
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:39.000
that she did carry on. She kept the relationship with
690
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:41.920
Ian Brady going, and she did help carry out the
691
00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:42.679
most murders.
692
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:46.039
The only explanation for her going through with this was
693
00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:51.119
that she had actually swallowed the whole idea of Ian's
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00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:56.000
aims in life, that his philosophy was okay, but also
695
00:42:56.360 --> 00:43:00.159
that she was completely on the side of Ian and
696
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:05.039
therefore safe from being a victim.
697
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:06.039
It was a very.
698
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:12.280
Scorpion like relationship between Myra and Ian, in that one
699
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:14.360
would not particularly want to turn their back on the
700
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:18.199
other in case that rather vicious and sadistic character could
701
00:43:18.199 --> 00:43:22.400
turn on them and they could become the victim.
702
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:28.960
The pair were now in this together. Next time, how
703
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:31.559
Myra helped plan and cover up the deaths of five
704
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:35.880
children with military precision. We reveal her role in the abduction,
705
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.920
rape and murder of each child victim.
706
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:41.000
And my dad said that Mayra has done a murdering
707
00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:43.599
actors la and there's more bodies on the moors and
708
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:47.719
my mum said, that's where our Pauline is then, and
709
00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:50.840
Bob said, yeah, I've made a monster, and made a
710
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:53.400
monster Maggie.
711
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:57.760
And we tell the stories of the ones that got away,
712
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.960
including the teenager they trust too much, who would witness
713
00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:05.079
their final murder and bring about that downfall
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We know how the story of the Moore's murderers, Myra
2
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Hindley and Ian Brady ends, But what do we know
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of how it began? How did an ordinary working class
4
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Manchester girl end up killing five children. Those who grew
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up alongside her, those who studied her mind, and the
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families of Myra's victims shed new light on her descent
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into darkness.
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Mayra's dad said to my dad, I've made a monster, John,
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I've made a monster.
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From their testimony, we've dramatized the events that turned her
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into an icon of evil. Inseparable from Ian Brady, she.
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Was very submissive to him.
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Whether she thought she was getting the love she deserved
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and that's what she thought love was, I don't know.
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Myra's childhood was toughened by a lack of life.
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Rather than having a soft and giving mother to kind
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of balance out the rather domineering father, her mother was
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also combative.
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Myyra encountered death at an early age.
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He was gray, he was white. I put my eyes
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into the coffin and I just looked away.
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Hindley's unpublished autobiography reveals intimate details of her relationship with Brady.
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It was clear to her for the moment that he
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pressed his mouth to her, that he never kissed anyone
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before he bruised her with his teeth. He hurt her.
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This is the story of a love affair turned toxic,
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of a couple withdrawn into a secret world of perverted
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and violent fantasy made reality, and of how they devised
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a plan for murder which would draw five children to
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their death. During Mayra's childhood, money was short, but community
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spirit was strong. Born in nineteen forty two, she lived
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in Gorton, one of the poorest districts in Manchester. Liz Cummins,
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the cousin of Moore's victim Pauline Reed, lived just across
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the road.
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There was the happiest days of my life growing up
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in Gorton. We had nothing but everybody. It was like
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one big family, but for.
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Myra, For anyone on those streets, violence was there if
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you went looking for it. Not everyone did. Not everyone
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stood their ground when they found it. Not everyone grew
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into a child killer.
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The area where Maria lift, which was near the monastery,
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was very small houses. You could hear everything that was
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set next.
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Door through the walls.
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They were suppose what you called today slums.
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It got to the stairs where we were all sleeping
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in Samburg, the girls as well as the diegon Or.
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We all got just sleeping in Salemburg until growlingly grand
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and moved over.
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That was so close we were.
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You'd always were left horn kids running out of everybody's houses,
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and that it was called nothing got touch.
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But this was post war Manchester and the heavy industry
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on which many families depended was in decline.
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People did argue.
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I remember dad's even having arguments on streets and over kids,
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and then and then the dad's never spoke and the
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kids got friends again. It was that type of community.
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Myra was a little bit older than me.
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But in the same group of friends.
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Myra was probably the loudest in the group, and bold
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and brush.
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She and her younger sister Maureen were brought up by
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their mother Nelly and their father Bob, just back from
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the war.
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You would hear Nelly at the end of the street
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because she's out. I think that's where Mala gets the
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loudness from.
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Much of the information about Myra's childhood comes from Myra
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herself when she was in jail. Her accounts should be
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treated with caution. She was seeking to make excuses shape
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public opinion, and when released from prison, she described her
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childhood to Duncan's staff. A journalist give an exclusive access
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to her papers and unpublished autobiography in which she blames
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her father for the way he shaped her personality.
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She disliked him intensely. On the other hand, she could
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see herself in him. He was a tough man, a
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hard man. He'd fought in North Africa, and when he
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came home he was working in a menial job, doing
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manual labor. He simply wasn't able to cope with the adjustment.
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He dealt with this by drinking very heavily and by
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slapping Mayra's mother around. He also hit Myra, whereas he
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was softer on more.
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They felt they couldn't really cope with Myra. For whatever reason,
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it may have been within Myra that the problem actually lay,
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or may have been that the parents were very poor
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at coping.
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To ease tensions. Myra, but not Maureen, was sent to
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live with her grand around the corner.
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Myra would have seen this as the arrival of Maureen
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and she being rejected pushed away.
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She loved her grandmother and was very happy there, but
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she felt alienated in a sense from her family background.
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And from the world which had created her.
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Myra claimed her father increasingly turned to drink, often that
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the steel works tavern, which still stands. She said, tensions
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between her parents deepened.
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He'd come back from the steel workers or steely and
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hit Mara's mum Nelly. Every night.
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I could go with a drink.
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Maya and her grandmother would wait outside and would listen
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with the sound of raised voices and a start for fight.
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Then they dash in and Mara would try and pull
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Bob off Nelly, while her grandmother hit her father repeatedly
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to try and end the fight.
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Myra herself was often shouted at for her trouble.
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Rather than having a soft and giving mother to kind
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of balance out the rather violent, domineering father. Her mother
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was also combative.
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There was one way in which Bob Hendley must have
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felt he was helping his daughter.
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He taught her how to fight. He taught her how
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to do the type of thing that he himself was
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doing to Mayra's mother.
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She picks out his reaction to one street fight in
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particular as a turning point. She recounts in detail the
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exchange that followed.
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Myra expected her father to protect her and stand up
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for her because he was this powerful figure within her life.
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He did the reverse.
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I'm gonna thought to yourself, because you're a big girl.
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Now, Myra, I'll tell you what.
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You're gonna go out there.
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You're gonna lead him Bye.
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I'm gonna let it, you dount.
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She was on her own, but armed with her father's
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fighting technique. Decades later, she could still recall the exact
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sequence of blows. A left to the head, a right
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to the stomach, a left to the temple, which led
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to victory.
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She learned that dominating someone was an important part of
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establishing herself and her own self worth.
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She'd done what her father had asked of her, and
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he ruffled her hair, He congratulated her, He gave her approval,
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and this is what Myra craved.
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She was rewarded by her father, who basically had created
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a loop within her to realize that you could influence
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the world outside by brutal force.
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Though Myra made much of this, her father wasn't unique.
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Mary Smith, who grew up nearby, is the widow of
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the man once married to Myra's sister Marien.
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If you came home and you'd been tied in, and
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the first question out of her mum's mouth would be
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did you win? And if you didn't win, then you'd
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be sent out to go out and to win, and
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so you'd have to stand your ground. You'd have to do.
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Myra may claim to have been toughened by the lack
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of love from her parents, but it would be Ian
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Brady who would unleash her darkest desires. He though was
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still years away, and other tragic events awaited Myra before
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the two would meet. As a child, Myra Hindley built
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a reputation as a street fighter. In her unpublished autobiography,
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she insists this tough background and her violent father provided
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an excuse for what was to come. But that doesn't
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wash with Mary Smith, widow of the man who was
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once Mayer's brother in law.
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I would find that absolutely ridiculous, because then more than
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half ninety percent of all girls and boys that was
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reared in that day and age should have become serial
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killers then, because we was all sent out to look
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after ourselves.
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The truth, according to those who knew Myra, is that
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something in her personality set her apart.
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She had no empathy for anybody else. If somebody hurt themselves,
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it wouldn't upset her or anything like that, and if
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anybody upsets her, she'd lash out and hit them.
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And that's how she was.
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I think she could handle her self mirror.
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She wasn't scared of anything or anybody.
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Mayra's reputation as a fighter made her a target. Other kids,
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often bigger, wanted to prove themselves against her. On one occasion,
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a boy heard she'd been treated for knits n nell.
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Initially he got the better of her. She shouted at
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him to break.
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She recalled how he had failed to beat obay the
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street fighting rules when he should have broken, He didn't
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break and continued to hit her. So she punished him
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for this by grabbing him by the head and slamming
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it repeatedly into the ground.
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She was going to pumbl him beyond his life's worth.
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There was a potential that was not restrained by emotional expression,
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which could point to a deficit that was always there
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in Myra. That coolness, that callous lack of empathy. That
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meant she had the potential all the way through her
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life to do serious damage.
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Myra claimed her prowess gave her a new role on
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the streets.
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She cheated certain status and took upon herself the role
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of protector.
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Often it would be her sister Maureen she protected with
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tragic irony. She did the same for Maureen's friend Pauline Reed,
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but just a decade later, Myra would choose Pauline to
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become the first Mau's victim. If Myra was fiercer than
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many children, she was also brighter.
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An interesting question is whether a better education would have
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saved Myra Hindley.
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She escaped inwardly from the turbulence of her life into
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a world of fiction. She'd shut herself away with the
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children's classics of the time, Beatrix Potter and Enid Blyton,
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than the Secret Garden and Swallows in Amazons.
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She sought something beyond, something that was beyond the ordinary life.
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She wanted to touch on a greater power. She tried
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this with religion, but she also saw in literature to
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go beyond the simple reality.
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Myra went to Sunday School at Saint Francis's Monastery nearby.
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She and her father wanted her to go there for
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her secondary education, but her mother disagreement. In the end,
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Mayra's mother got her way. Myra was entered for the
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eleventh plus, but recalled. She had to sit the exam
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at a school for middle class children in another part
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of Manchester. She claimed she felt overwhelmed and failed. As
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her mother had wished, She was sent to the local
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multi faith Secondary Modern. Now a teenager, much in demand
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as a babysitter, Myra took a back seat at school,
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still enjoying English literature, but truanting regularly.
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She wasn't a very community person. Even at school.
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She didn't mix very well. It was if she was
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looking for something and couldn't find it.
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She tended to avoid girls and hang around with boys,
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including Alan Grafton.
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Myra was, in my opinion, more of a tomboy than
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the other girls. Don't think that many of the lads
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at that time really took a fancy to Myra, as
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she was loud, she could fight. They just didn't want
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to get involved, I don't think. But at that particular time,
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Myra had this crush on one of our friends called
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Michae Higgins. Nice lad was Michael, and everybody liked Michael.
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At thirteen, was two years younger than Myra. The pair
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were inseparable.
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Was always together, very good friends.
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You used to take him to the park and you
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used to take him swiming, and the same initials as well,
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which made a difference.
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Myra was a strong swimmer and looked after Michael tragedy
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struck the day she decided not to go with him.
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Unfortunately, Michael, on one sunny day went to Dubdale Parking
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Garden where they've got some reservoirs and went for a
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swim with some friends.
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And Michael never come home.
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Apparently the currents of that reservoir took his life's.
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Michael, who'd been with two other boys, had swum far
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out from the bank and got cramp in the deep
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cold water. Police frogmen recover his body.
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That evening, she was devastated about Michael's death. Everybody was
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devastated about him because he was a lovely lad.
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She felt that she should have been there. She said
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she would be there. She was, and she would have
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saved him if she was there. That's the scenario.
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That night, Mayra climbed into bed with her gram in
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a nightmare about Michael. She was diving underwater trying to
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save him, grabbing his hair, but it was too short
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and then she too was sinking, gulping lungfuls of water.
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Mara describes many nightmares and almost surreal moments where she
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felt she was re enacting the scenario of Michael's death
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as if really trying to physically place her presence at
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the scene and do something about it. But she also
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had it as an obsessive, intrusive thought, almost as something
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which would normal people would want to push away. But
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I think Myra actually saw this as a kind of
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vision of another world, a world in which she could
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perhaps almost do supernatural things.
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In morning, he can remember everybody knocking film people's doors
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saying Michael Wiggins is drowned. And Myra was very, very
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upset about that, because Myra, i think, in All the Girls,
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was the closest to Michael.
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Michael's body was laid out in his front room. His
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friends were invited in.
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He was gray, he was white. I put my eyes
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into the coffin and I just looked away, and I
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tried to get out of the house as soon as
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I could. I was that upset and shocked about seeing
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the body in the coffin. I've never been to see
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anybody else.
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Myra too was shown the body.
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She described in great and very unusual detail, the sight
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of Michael lying in the coffin, the light falling on
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his face, and how she could see a sliver of
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his eye. It's very striking. This detailed this almost obsession
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with death.
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Michael's mother pulled the rosary beads from his fingers and
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handed them to her. Though Myra had blamed herself, after
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seeing Michael's body, her reaction to the death changed.
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It became something which fired up anger, which was directed
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as others, not at herself.
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She wanted to take.
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Out her feelings hair of frustrations on others. She forcefully
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gathered money for a wreath, often in a very threatening
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and menacing way, which was disturbing considering the fact that
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she should have been distraught, quiet and sorrowful.
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She wasn't. One evening, she was convinced she'd seen Michael
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staring at her. She ran to him, but he'd vanished.
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Detailed and vivid descriptions of death abound in Myra's unpublished autobiography.
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A dog she found decapitated by a railway line, a
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boy she watched bleeding to death after being crushed by
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a lorry, a cat torn in half by two dogs.
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The reason it was never published is that her supporters
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looked at this material. They saw it that in fact
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betrayed her. It did her damage because it showed that
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she was an unusual person who was familiar with and
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comfortable with scenes of extreme violence and death.
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After Michael's death, Myra immersed herself in religion.
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She became obsessed about it. She visited the church all
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the time. Once she'd focused on something, she'd locked onto
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it totally.
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But her friends felt she still hadn't found what she
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was seeking. A new Myra emerged. She left school, took
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a job as a typist, and infamously dyed her hair
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peroxide blonde.
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It as if she was looking for love, and all
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I can think is that she didn't get sist at home,
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so she's tried to find it.
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But she wanted a male of nothing else.
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After a series of relationships, she ended up with a
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boy called Ronnie Sinclair. Despite Mayra's reputation, he had dared
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to tug her hair in the cinema.
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Ronnie asked her would he marry her, and they got
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rings and they're engaged to be married. But Mara felt
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that the relationship was moving forward in a way that
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was expected or further, somehow she would have to marry
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Ronnie and she didn't really want that.
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At home, Myra's sister Maureen also had a new boyfriend,
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and the dynamic of the family was changing forever. After
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a stroke which left him a semi invalid and embittered,
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Mayra's father, Bob, was continuing to vent his frustration on
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Myra's mother, Maureen, knew the consequences if Myra found out.
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Maureen's boyfriend, David Smith, would later play a pivotal role
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in bringing the Moore's murderers to justice. He's going to
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listen to me.
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For me, it's not mildthread.
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He didn't really want to go to the house because
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he didn't want to get involved with it.
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In his memoirs, David Smith describes in detail the moment
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he witnessed the Hindley family and Myra in their true colours. David,
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a fifteen year old, was being asked to soothe matters
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before Myra got wind of what had happened. He was
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too late.
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David went there just in time to see that Myra
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enter the situation, marchinging and in immediately dominating the household
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and her father, humiliating him, stating that if he made
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one move again, she would not only strike him back,
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she would put him into hospital or even the cemetery.
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The intent and the dominance and the callous disregard for
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another human being, which it includes her own parent was
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already there. This reversed the early childhood dominance by her father. Okay,
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this was in defense of her mother. However, here she
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was showing the same callous regard for her own father
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that once upon a time he showed her.
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Years later, Myra described how she was feeling trapped at
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this time, age nineteen. She tried changing jobs and a
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ride for interview at a company in Gorton called Millwood's Merchandising.
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That was finees simily, this will be your desk.
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Her friend had already told her of a shy, intriguing
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man who worked.
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When humans initially bond, we're going back to primordial times.
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We don't have time for long winded introductions. In fact,
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we often will make immediate emotional bonding contact with someone
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within a split second.
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Myras is Ian, Ian is Myra.
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This happened with Myra Hindley when she first saw Ian
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Brady to meet. He was not just simply a fairly
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good looking guy, but he had a strange aloof cool nature,
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one where he would be more elusive than engaging, one
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where he would look quite dismissive rather than interested. This
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drew her in.
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Mara Hindley was instantly smitten with Ian Brady, and when
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she met her friends that night, she couldn't stop talking
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about him. It was Ian this, e and that, and
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that went on for a very long time afterwards.
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In her autobiography, she describes walking home, glancing through wind
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and seeing hum drum scenes of the ordinary life she
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could expect if she married Ronnie. It no longer felt enough.
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Each step was now taking her in a new and
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lethal direction. When Mara Hindley arrived for her first day
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at Millwood's merchandising in January nineteen sixty one, she already
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knew what she wanted out of the job. It didn't
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immediately go to plan.
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In her unpublished autobography, Mara Hindley wrote, and she was
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completely smitten by Ian, but she simply couldn't understand the
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way he responded to her.
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Thank you for your corporation, etc. And etc.
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She was used to boys, so if they fancied you,
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they immediately told you that they fancied you. Ian held
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himself completely aloof.
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Thank you simply.
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Mara Hindley in later life described this as him deliberately
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exerting controlling behavior because she was trying to paint a
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picture of herself as somebody who was being manipulated by
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Ian Brady from the start. I'm not sure that's right,
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but there's no doubt that he was cold to her.
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To those who had grown up with her in Gordon,
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it was clear Myra had moved on from her street
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fighting days, but her domineering personality remained.
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She used to stand outside Millwood's and we'd be my
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boyfriend except my husband. I'd be walking down lemon Zoom
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Road and even though she knew you, she'd look through you.
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She wouldn't acknowledge that you were there. She just had
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a face of look why marble stone, whatever you want
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to call it.
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To those who knew Myra, Ian who came from Glasgow
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appeared an outsider.
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She probably could have thought he was handsome, but he
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wasn't my type. He was and he was older than
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her as well. He wasn't in our if you know
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what I mean, most people you went around with people
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if your own age, not somebody a lot older than yourself.
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It was very posh.
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He used to look very smart.
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I'm not saying Garden people didn't look smart, but he
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was overdressed for being in garden.
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Now I can always remember this Laod in a corner
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with l for bitter and a war book, And eventually
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that turned out to be Ian Brady. He had a
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moltorbike and no kids had motorbikes, and Maria was interested
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in this ladd on a moltarbike.
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Like Myra Hindley, Ian Brady came from a poor working
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class background, but his background was even more difficult than Myra's.
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His mother was called Peggy, and she was a t
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shop waitress and she got pregnant, It's rumored by a
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newspaper reporter in Glasgow, and she wasn't able to cope
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with the fact she had a young child and advertise
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him for adoption in a Newsasians window. So, like Myra,
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he had a sense of dislocation, a sense of rejection
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by by his family.
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Brady was fostered and from an early age began stealing,
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acquiring a string of convictions.
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He was someone who actually again pleasure and thrill from
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committing crimes as opposed to simply profit. This was something
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that he was going to be doing for the rest
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of his life.
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Eventually, a court gave him a choice go to a
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young offenders institution or join his birth mother in Manchester.
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In nineteen fifty four, Ian caught the train from Glasgow
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to Manchester's Victoria station. Six years later, he met Myra
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Hindley at Millwood's. She soon saw another side to the
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cool aloof Ian. At lunchtime, he'd go out to place
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bets and would later call the bookies to get the results.
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His best name was Gorgan Zola later changed to Gorgan,
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and he was fine when he'd won, but when he'd lost,
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he just exploded off christ sick. In these fascis of temper,
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Myra saw something that she was familiar with. It was
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the behavior of her father, and on the one hand
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it repelled her. But on the other hand, it was
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the familiar. It was something that she understood and knew
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how to deal with, so it didn't put her off him,
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and in an odd way, it drew her towards him.
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At other moments. When he did speak, it was not
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to take part in banter, but to expound ideas on
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philosophy and literature, making clear he was a part and superior.
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Myra was fascinated, but Ian appeared oblivious.
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It was not Ian that was actually trying to pick
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up on Myra, or see a potential victim or a colleague.
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Here it was Myra who pursued Ian initially and for
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quite a long time.
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For a time, she effectively stalked Ian, borrowing her aunt's
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baby son and wheeling him up and down Ian Street,
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but she never saw him. Eventually, she decided to show
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Ian she too was interested in big ideas. She went
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to Gorton Library and found a book of Wordsworth poetry
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which she remembered from school. She recalled in detail the
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conversations which followed.
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Word's worth Any good marvus actually, especially long ones might
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get a copy.
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It was a blissful moment for her. This was a
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moment she was determined to capitalize on, and she did
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everything she could to make sure that once he had
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noticed her, he would never stop noticing her, and that
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she would form a relationship with him.
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Do you listen to music?
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Of course, she wanted Ian more than she wanted anything.
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Which all sorts, bit of pop, classical, big bonds.
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Ian Brady used little things to set himself apart from
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his working class background.
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I prefer more craft of music. Sometime the recording from
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the TV library to him. These were tremendously important things.
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So he didn't drink beer, He drank red wine. He
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didn't listen to pop, he listened to classical music.
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You can borrow some sporores if you like technology. Fascinated
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Ian Brady. He had his own recording equipment, his own
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photographic kit and darkroom. Myra began saving for her own
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tape recorder. Years later, she described her obsession with Ian
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to her prison chaplain father, Michael Teeder.
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He introduced her to a different way of life. He
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took her really out of that very poor, working class
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background that she was growing and he showed her other things,
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and I think he was probably an exciting man.
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She had locked her beam onto him. She had an
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unusual personality in that she became obsessed by things.
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She called off her engagement to Ronnie Sinkle, who was distraught.
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He wrung her daily, but she was totally focused on Brady.
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In later years, she came to realize, and she wrote
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me about this, that this was a critical moment in
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her life. Had she gone on, had she married Ronnie Sinclair,
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she would probably have grown up an ordinary mother in
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a working class area of Manchester and led a happy life.
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But it was not until the office Christmas party in
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December nineteen sixty one, almost a year after she joined Millwood's,
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that Myra Hindley's relationship with Ian Brady truly ignited. He
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asked her to dance.
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The Christmas party at Millwood's Merchandise was a hard drinking affair.
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They were having a party in a pub. Mayra was
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sitting by the edge of the dance door, feeling a
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little bit unsteady, and then Ian staggered towards her. He
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asked her she'd like to dance, and pulled her to
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her feet, and they lurched around the dance floor, with
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him trampling all over her feet. But it was the
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happiest moment of Myra Hindley's life so far.
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After the party, Ian suggested they go on for a drink.
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Then he walked her home.
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Am I coming in.
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Now my grand's?
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Myra wrote in detail about her first kiss with Ian Brady.
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It was clear to her for the moment that he
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pressed his mouth to her that he'd never kissed anyone before.
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He bruised her with his teeth. He hurt her. This
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was a man who had never had any physical affection before.
519
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:23.279
He can't go.
520
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:26.720
You no longer wanted.
521
00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:35.839
Ah.
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00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:38.079
But if Myra thought she and Ian were an item,
523
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:42.240
he had other ideas. A long pattern of circling each other,
524
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.799
playing on each other's trust, drawing the other inn began
525
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:49.240
to unfold. This remained at the core of their relationship
526
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:50.519
for the rest of their lives.
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He wouldn't speak to her, he wouldn't recognize her in
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00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:58.480
the office, and then he would suddenly come back and
529
00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:01.160
then pick her up again and make fuss of her
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00:32:01.480 --> 00:32:03.960
and buyer things and take her out and make her
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00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:06.319
feel special. Then he would drop her and he'd do
532
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:09.039
exactly the same thing again. And I think this is
533
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:12.640
a grooming pattern. It's a way of gaining control over
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00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:15.839
another person. And I think that that was a systematic
535
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:18.480
way that he dealt with her, until finally he felt
536
00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:23.039
that he had controlled over her and that she needed him.
537
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:25.960
When she did agree to have sex with Ian, the
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00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:27.240
encounter was brutal.
539
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:34.720
He bit her repeatedly, rather than be a warm, loving moment.
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00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:40.200
She described in great detail to me how violent this was,
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00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:42.599
how he was rough with her. Now, she was trying
542
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:46.599
to portray herself as somebody who was irresistibly drawn to
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00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:50.079
a man with a dark side, but Whereas most young
544
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:52.519
women confront of the boyfriend who was violent to them
545
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.160
when they lost their virginity, they'd end the relationship. Mara didn't.
546
00:32:56.519 --> 00:33:00.799
There was something brutal about him that fascinated Myra, that
547
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:05.880
actually engaged her, that resonated somewhat with her exchanges with
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00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:11.119
her father, something that was feeding her need to go
549
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:13.319
beyond what others would attain.
550
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:18.960
Myra's acceptance of the dark side of his personality encouraged
551
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.880
him to reveal more. Leiah by Leah Brady drew her
552
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:24.359
deeper into his fantasies.
553
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:26.880
I think it was a damn and spiral as far
554
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:28.079
as she was concerned.
555
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:31.400
Do you know all there was when I kill my
556
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cross can.
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00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:35.839
Ken?
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He changed her, He groomed her. And it's a word
559
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:43.400
which probably wasn't used at the time, but I think
560
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:45.279
we know the meaning of that word now.
561
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:49.759
Threw it from a tower block, screamed all the way down.
562
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:53.880
He had a script in his head and he needed
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to get her to a point where she was helping
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00:33:56.599 --> 00:33:57.680
to act it out.
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00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:05.279
Couldn't do that anymore. Eh on the O people, Now
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00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:09.719
it's on a higher plaim.
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00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:15.760
Bit by bit Ian revealed to Myra the books, the
568
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.480
ideas through which his fantasies had taken shape, including the
569
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Marquis De'ssard, the high priest of Sadism, who preached that violence,
570
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:27.760
and especially sexual violence, were justified because they were pleasurable
571
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:28.719
and natural.
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00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:31.360
Do you know what I thought when I first started
573
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:36.280
not to keep the sad saw?
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00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:43.519
Ian Brady viewed dark, abnormal behavior as something that separated
575
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:47.159
him from his working class background, so he was interested
576
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:50.559
in the Marquis Dessard. He was interested in Pasado Masochism.
577
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:54.000
This is very unusual now. Mara Hindley was able to
578
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:56.880
enter into this world partly because she saw in Ian
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00:34:57.000 --> 00:34:59.760
Brady a mirror image of her father. So were her
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00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.599
father had beaten her from a young age. Ian Brady
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00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:05.639
beat her during sex, so her childhood had in a
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00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:09.360
sense prepared her to enter this world. With Ian Brady.
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00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:14.559
They withdrew into a private world, apart from a society
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whose rules they increasingly scorned, but those around them caught
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00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:21.159
glimpses of how their relationship was developing.
586
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:25.800
She was very submissive to him. Whether she thought she
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00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:31.119
was getting the love she deserved and that's what she
588
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:34.159
thought love was, I don't know. But if he told
589
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:37.880
us to stand on the head. She'd stand on the head.
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00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:39.360
What do you look like here?
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00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:44.840
One summer she was outside Millwood's and she had, you know,
592
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:48.360
fancy top in the shorts gut and he didn't like it,
593
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:51.400
and he made to take it off, and.
594
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:58.719
She took it off to go off now there and
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00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:01.559
then yeah, in the street.
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00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:03.960
Or what was she left with?
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00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:09.280
Wearing an underskirt, a full anthem to skirt, an over.
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00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:10.000
Hour and pants.
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00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:14.679
If he said coal was white, coal was white. And
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00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:16.719
she got on the back of the bank without the
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00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:17.199
clothes on.
602
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:23.599
He gave her a book called The Carpetbaggers by Harold Robbins,
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00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:27.920
which describes in graphic and sickening detail, the rape of
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00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:29.199
a fifteen year old girl.
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00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:33.440
Ian took from the book the notion that rape, incest,
606
00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:35.440
and pedophilia were adventures.
607
00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:38.079
If a mine gets the chance to perform running his
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00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:42.000
axe murder, he should take care.
609
00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:51.039
The couple began to play out their dreams of violence.
610
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:54.679
Although Ian had previously reveled in being cruel to animals,
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00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:58.559
he now decided to become their protector. The couple would
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00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:02.079
read reports of people guilty of animal cruelty, then go
613
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:04.679
on vigilante trips, taking revenge.
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00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:09.719
Ian could justify just being basically vicious and damaging and
615
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:13.599
sadistic towards the people who suppose perpetrators of this.
616
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:20.000
Ian would give those responsible a beating or throw a
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00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:23.239
brick through a window. He and Myra were constructing a
618
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:25.960
world where they did to others as they wished. With
619
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:30.440
each new venture, the next step became imaginable. Many would
620
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:41.159
suffer as a result. Ian Brady was a planner to
621
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:45.960
his fantasies of violent crime. He brought meticulous forethought, but
622
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:50.199
he needed Myra Hindley to make his most horrific fantasies real.
623
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:57.079
Thus heed it.
624
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.960
He found a book called Compulsion about the real life
625
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:04.719
abduction and murder of a Chicago schoolboy by two wealthy,
626
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:08.480
good looking young men who thought the committed the perfect crime,
627
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:09.840
but they were caught.
628
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:11.920
And probably committed the Ian Brady used the book called
629
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:15.599
Compulsion by Maya Levin as a perverse blueprint for the
630
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:18.400
Moore's murders. The book was written as an argument against
631
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:21.920
capital punishment, but Ian Brady read it completely differently. All
632
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:25.239
he did was look at the mistakes that were committed
633
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:28.119
by Leopold and Low of the murderers in the way
634
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:31.639
they carried out the killing. So they abducted somebody from
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00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:34.559
close to their house. They buried them in a drainage
636
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:38.000
ditch where the body would be found when they burnt
637
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:40.880
the face with acid. They didn't do it properly so
638
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:42.559
the victim could still be recognized.
639
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:49.159
He saw their efforts as being futile, immature, error ridden,
640
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:53.360
and not having the great foresight that he himself thought.
641
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:55.000
He heard they were.
642
00:38:54.880 --> 00:39:00.880
Seen at the abduction, had the body blocked properly. Idiots.
643
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:05.920
Years later, Myra described the conversation, it's why you.
644
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:09.280
Do it, your plan. You need to make sure the
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00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:10.559
body is never discovered.
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00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:13.840
They outlined a plan for Mayra to wear a disguise
647
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:17.440
and pick up a child. They then drive to Saddleworth Moore,
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00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:20.960
where the child would be raped, murdered and buried.
649
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:28.719
No, this is going to be the perfect matter.
650
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:50.599
You are gone. They began driving around, picking out potential victims,
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00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:54.679
taking photos and rehearsing what they do.
652
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:08.760
No idea to that, inged Mara Henley, in her later
653
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:11.840
descriptions of the run up to the murders, painted a
654
00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:16.280
picture of herself being forced into the killings and being
655
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:18.840
forced to go out scouting for children.
656
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:21.840
But this went on over a period of time, and
657
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:25.159
it's striking that she didn't pull out, she didn't walk away.
658
00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:29.039
The idea of the perfect murder became part of her
659
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:32.880
sex life. As time went on, what had started as
660
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:36.679
a fantasy became a real possibility. But at this point
661
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:40.159
in Myra's account, she claimed she needed one final push
662
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:44.280
towards murder and that one day she got it. This
663
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:46.000
is her version of what happened.
664
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.559
She wrote how one night she began to feel unwell,
665
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:55.760
she became drowsy, and then she woke up with an
666
00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:59.639
appalling hangover, and it transpired. What happened was he drugged
667
00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:03.159
her use her grandmother's nembutae tablets, and then raped her
668
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:05.000
and photographed her and bitten her.
669
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:12.119
That to be the sleeping tablets? What's sleeping tablets? As
670
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:15.599
completely out of it? You will off of the faeries,
671
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:26.360
you bastard, because you're mine, you're alcohol because I could
672
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:27.719
do whatever I wanted.
673
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:38.440
It's entirely possible. She was a willing, fully awake participant
674
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:41.960
in the photo session and concocted the drugging story to
675
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:45.039
suggest she was at Ian's mercy. She said, a few
676
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:47.039
days later he showed her the photos.
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00:41:48.960 --> 00:42:01.880
I see what I aked and that's tric Dear you're
678
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:02.360
ow gold.
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00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:08.719
Mayra claimed she was so scared she wrote a letter
680
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:11.880
to be given to the police if she disappeared. She
681
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:14.079
said her body would be found in a shallow grave
682
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:17.559
on Saddleworth More. But there's no further evidence of the letter,
683
00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:20.800
and she said she later retrieved and destroyed it.
684
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:24.320
There's a question as to whether that letter ever existed
685
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:26.519
or not. Was it a real letter or was it
686
00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:29.400
simply her trying to portray herself once again as a
687
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:32.760
victim once again. Something didn't really want to carry out
688
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:35.039
these killings, but there's no getting away from the fact
689
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:39.000
that she did carry on. She kept the relationship with
690
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:41.920
Ian Brady going, and she did help carry out the
691
00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:42.679
most murders.
692
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:46.039
The only explanation for her going through with this was
693
00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:51.119
that she had actually swallowed the whole idea of Ian's
694
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:56.000
aims in life, that his philosophy was okay, but also
695
00:42:56.360 --> 00:43:00.159
that she was completely on the side of Ian and
696
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:05.039
therefore safe from being a victim.
697
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:06.039
It was a very.
698
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:12.280
Scorpion like relationship between Myra and Ian, in that one
699
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:14.360
would not particularly want to turn their back on the
700
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:18.199
other in case that rather vicious and sadistic character could
701
00:43:18.199 --> 00:43:22.400
turn on them and they could become the victim.
702
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:28.960
The pair were now in this together. Next time, how
703
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:31.559
Myra helped plan and cover up the deaths of five
704
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:35.880
children with military precision. We reveal her role in the abduction,
705
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.920
rape and murder of each child victim.
706
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:41.000
And my dad said that Mayra has done a murdering
707
00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:43.599
actors la and there's more bodies on the moors and
708
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:47.719
my mum said, that's where our Pauline is then, and
709
00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:50.840
Bob said, yeah, I've made a monster, and made a
710
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:53.400
monster Maggie.
711
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:57.760
And we tell the stories of the ones that got away,
712
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.960
including the teenager they trust too much, who would witness
713
00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:05.079
their final murder and bring about that downfall
