Dark Romance Needs Trigger Warnings… But Thrillers Get a Pass?!

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Do you read trigger warnings?
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Yes or no?
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No, no.
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I do.
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Sometimes.
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It's like a menu.
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One warning you think is completely unnecessary.
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Snowstorms.
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Snowstorms.
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Should romance have trigger warnings?
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No.
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Yes.
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Explain.
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This book contains finger grace.
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That could be too much for people.
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I'm just saying.
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It's enthralling.
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Leave.
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So aggressive.
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Welcome back to Plot Twist Please, where we sip, flip, and spill the tea.
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I'm Cass.
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I'm Susanna, and I'm Beth.
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And today we are talking trigger warnings and why some genres require them, quote unquote, and others that maybe should have them don't.
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And this could get juicy.
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But we are drinking crispy vanilla coke in a wine glass.
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And if you're not drinking crispy Diet Coke in a wine glass, what are you doing?
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So crispy.
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Also, we had a commenter the last time we had this comment that she thought we had eyeballs in our glasses.
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We do.
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Yeah.
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Sorry, I thought you guys were being festive, question mark, but no, they're just no bullet ice.
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Let them believe they're eyeballs.
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They do look like eyeballs.
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Well, before we bestir the pot, what's everyone reading?
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I don't have my kindle.
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Wait, who's saying that?
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I don't have one either.
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Bethany! I don't need it because I've been reading it on my face.
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Hold on.
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Fair, fair.
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I'll get out.
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A few moments later.
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Okay.
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Now that these delinquents have their Kindles, thanks to me.
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What are we reading?
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I'm reading Ulton Academy by K.S.
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Elliott.
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I just finished it.
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I just finished it today.
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I have not picked another book to read.
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I'm still also working on uh Dungeon Crawler Carl, which is the doomsday, I think.
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The Doomsday book.
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The second one.
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Okay.
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Doomsday scenario, yeah.
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I'm 56% into that.
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Nice.
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I'll definitely be be done Alton Academy tonight.
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We received Alton Academy as an arc from the author KS Elliott.
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So exciting.
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And um, but it actually comes out for the masses on October 6th.
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Tomorrow.
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Tomorrow.
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When we're filming this.
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You'll it'll be out already.
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Last week.
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Yeah.
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Last week for you.
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Yeah, last week for you.
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Check it out.
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Get on it.
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What are you doing?
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Yeah.
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To give a little insight into it, it's kind of like, well, a lot of people were thinking it was like Yu-Gi-Oh!, but I've never watched Yu-Gi-Oh! or played the games.
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I unfortunately have.
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Oh my gosh.
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You didn't like Yu-Gi-Oh!?
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I loved like Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh! when I was growing up.
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No.
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I like Pokemon.
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It reminds me of Pokemon.
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When you said that, I was like, it is.
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But Yu-Gi-Oh! was the cards.
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It also is Pokemon coded, too, because yeah.
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Well, instead of instead of Pokeballs, you have cards and then also a battle band that you like put the cards into.
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It's really cool.
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Animal or creating your little creature.
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Yeah.
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And then the attack.
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So cute.
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I want a selfie.
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I also want to.
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I need to look up fan art to what it looks like because it sounds cute.
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It sounds really cute.
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She says it's so cute, and they're just gonna see it.
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It's gonna be like the like the monstrous, creepiest little.
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I'll probably love it.
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I love possums, so let's be real.
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I like what possums do.
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I love them.
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They're so cute.
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Even when they drool.
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Have you ever had one hiss at you?
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Yeah, they're fine, they're terrifying.
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They don't do nothing.
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It could clearly go, it could play dead.
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Yeah, it could literally hiss at you, and you could just be like, knock that off, pick it up, and it'd be like, Yeah.
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Have you?
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I don't know.
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Yeah, it's true.
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It's a true story.
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Anyways, I've touched a lot of animals that have bit me, and I don't that's like a raccoon, 100%.
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Trash panda, best friends.
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Trash pandas carry rabies.
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So we could do possum.
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No, they don't.
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Oh well.
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They actually, fun fact, if you didn't know this, their temperature of their body does not allow them to catch rabies.
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So they're one of the only like critters like that that can't get it.
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Oh, with their noodles?
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With the little schnoots.
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I need a trigger warning for this conversation right now.
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I'm just like grass.
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Anyways, I'm reading our book club of the month pick We Live Here Now by Sarah Pinbor Pinboro.
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It is good.
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It's like um domestic thriller with a paranormal-ish kind of twist.
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That uh they both finished it already.
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I was busy reading Alton Academy, so I will say, I know like there's there's very mixed reactions going on in our book club about it, and it's not the best book.
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What?
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It's not.
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I mean, no, but I I loved it though, and it's actually the first time in a while that I felt like I was like fully immersed in a book.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I'm I'm right in like from page one.
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I'm like, ooh.
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Yeah, like it happened fast, and I literally at one point stopped being like I needed this.
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I love when a book does that.
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I like it was just like reading.
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It was just I've just I don't know.
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I know like we've talked about it.
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There's so many people that I was talking to in September who were struggling reading.
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I talked about this in the book club with a couple people.
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A couple people kind of commented being like, hey, where's like my mom's speed?
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Like I thought, like when I had kids, like I get like to read as fast as Beth.
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Yeah.
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And I was like, I don't know what you're talking about because I was told that come September when my kids are in daycare in school, that I'm gonna be reading more, and this is my worst month of the entire year.
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It's actually embarrassing.
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But it was just I just I don't know.
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I was I was enjoying the books I was reading, but I was struggling.
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They weren't the best.
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See, sometimes you just need a good thriller to like maybe that was it.
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Just needed to spice it.
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It just does something, you know?
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Yeah, the short chapters also didn't help my productivity because I'm sure one more chapter.
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Yeah, I'm like, oh wait, the next one's only a minute.
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Okay, one more.
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I know it's yeah, it's so good, especially after like the last books we read.
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And then long chapters, so don't like that.
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Anywho, let's stir the pot.
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What exactly are trigger warnings?
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So when we talk about trigger warnings, and I'm gonna kind of like question you guys, we're just gonna discuss.
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When we talk about trigger warnings and content warnings, what do you think the difference is between both of those?
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Trigger warnings are when your brain or body think that you're in danger.
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Like they're you have like a visceral reaction to something compared to content warnings, where it's like this is what this book contains.
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Yes.
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That's a good explanation.
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That is a great explanation.
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To me, I'm like, they're the same thing.
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Same, same.
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There's no difference.
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No, I agree with that.
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But yeah, so basically the trigger warnings are meant to like to protect readers from trauma triggers.
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Like, yeah, mental health, or to let readers simply know what they're getting into.
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Does knowing something is coming actually make it easier to handle, do you think?
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I'd say, yeah, like having a heads up that hey, this is going to be in the book at some point, yeah, would make you kind of emotionally prepare yourself to encounter that.
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Whereas if you're just like smacked with it, you're like, oh, or decide if you even want to proceed with reading it.
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Yeah.
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Basically.
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Yeah.
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I think there are certain things that in your head you know it can be a trigger for you.
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But if you know like you're prepared, you can handle it.
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Yeah.
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But you'll, it's also the the other flip side is there's certain things that you know that you won't be able to handle.
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Right.
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So I think it's kind of it depends on how triggering that thing is for you.
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Yeah.
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So like child loss can be very triggering for someone who's gone through it.
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For sure.
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Who's gone through it multiple times.
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So that could be something that they're just like, absolutely not.
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Whereas like someone else could be like, they find child loss really hard to read, but they can they can pro like handle it.
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They can handle it, yeah.
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Right.
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Especially with warning.
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True.
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Why are they so prominent in dark romance?
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And this is where it gets juicy.
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Cause people love dark romance and bashing it.
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So dark romance often advertises itself around the darkness.
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It's the whole premise, is the dark side.
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Yes.
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The entire appeal can be like taboo relationships, morally questionably gray men, sexual relationship with your blood brother, I can't even say it.
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Yeah.
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Violence, coercion, obsession, kidnapping, abuse, etc.
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etc.
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So, why does a genre that essentially says this book is going to take you somewhere pretty fucked up also tend to have extensive content warnings?
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Why do we think that?
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Like, why do they have it?
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Yeah.
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Why is dark romance, and it it's not even like a if you write a dark romance book, you have to have content warnings.
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Like it's not the law, but it's like a generalized thing, specifically in the dark romance genre, that every book you read has content warnings.
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Or sorry, triggering.
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I just think it's because everyone's trigger for things, like triggering things are so vast.
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Yeah.
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Um, and dark romance does tend to focus on those.
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Yeah, focus on those things.
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So for one person they might enjoy it, another person might be okay with it, and another person it could be mentally detrimental.
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And I but I think also, and here's the thing where I'm gonna be like, maybe it's a dark romance book.
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Like you already know you're gonna get into somewhere, something that's pretty messed up.
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So why do they need trigger warnings if you are if if you're going to that genre, already knowing what dark romance contains?
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I feel like we've talked about this in a previous episode where like what you can find in a dark romance is so vast wide on the spectrum of dark, and everyone's spectrum is different.
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So I think that's why.
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Okay.
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So basically, it's for readers that are actively seeking specific types of dark content, readers wanting to distinguish between dark but sexy, and then dark in a way that I absolutely do not want to read.
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Yeah.
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Fair.
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Yep.
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The rise of social media slash book talk and readers sharing detailed lists of potentially triggering content, and authors and publishers potentially using warnings as a way of setting expectations rather than simply avoiding responsibility.
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I was kind of thinking of that one DNF from last week's episode of where she went in to see like what the book contained, and she's like, I was promised like gore and this and that.
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And she's like, and then that's not what she got.
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She got like the opposite of the trigger and content warnings.
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Right.
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I was just looking to we used we live here now, which is like a thriller that has some sort of domestic things.
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There's no trigger warnings or content warnings in this book.
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Exactly.
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And there's like murder and everything like that.
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I'm glad you mentioned this, Susanna, because why not thrillers?
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I don't know.
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Right?
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Is it all like I don't know if it's all thrillers or just like selected thrillers that I think it's the other thing?
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Majority of thrillers I don't find content in or trigger warnings.
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I've read a lot of thrillers and I've never had that page in like you know, I never had to skip that.
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There's been a couple of them, but usually it has to deal with like if there's some kind of like trauma that happens in it or like child loss, usually if there's something like with kids.
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Yeah.
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So basically, a thriller a thriller.
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Yeah, that one.
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There's no yeah, there's nothing.
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But I'm just saying, like some some books like thrillers I've come across have come and been like with a like a it's not even like a uh, it's more like this book contains I've never seen one in a thriller.
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Have you?
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Yeah, or you have I can't remember what one.
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So thrillers can often contain, and I wrote a list down sexual assault, child abuse, murder, domestic violence, suicide, torture, animal death, pregnancy loss, graphic violence, and kidnapping.
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And you'll often see, instead of like trigger warnings, a gripping psychological thriller full of twists and turns.
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And that's it.
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That's it.
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You definitely get the twists and turns for sure.
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Whereas dark romance might have content warnings in bold letters, uh kidnapping, dubcon, stalking violence, blood, pregnancy, death, etc.
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So it's all listed in dark romance, but not in thrillers.
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And often thrillers can contain, obviously not as dark, but sometimes on the cusp of the same type of themes.
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So why the difference?
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I think because dark romance has such a stigma around it and like the content that dark romance authors write about, and there's a lot of hate going towards the genre itself.
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Like, if you're new here, you don't know this, but I don't read dark romance, it's not my thing.
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I do love it.
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That's just my perspective.
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I've seen, like, even the video I did on my own channel last week, the amount of hate that's on dark romance authors, whenever some sort of controversy comes out, the haunting Adeline thing brought up a bunch of hate against dark romance.
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Yeah.
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The J.
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A.
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Williams author using the Cornell 7 case to promote her book, which is a dark fantasy romance, also brought more hate to Dark Romance.
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And it's like people who don't read it think it's disgusting.
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And like while there is very disturbing themes that can be in those books, I think authors have to put those content warnings because if they don't, they'll be flayed alive.
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Yeah.
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Online.
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But they still get flayed eit either way.
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Yeah, but less flayed.
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So no, I would say it's kind of the same, really.
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It's slightly.
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Yeah.
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It's slightly, just a slight flaying, just the tip the top layer of flaying.
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I think a big difference, and I see it a lot everywhere, is the fact that dark romance often romanticizes certain things, whereas thrillers are meant to scare you.
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That's better.
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Never mind.
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Scratch what I said.
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That's so simple.
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Which to me makes more sense.
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But in the same breath, if you're reading a thriller and pregnancy loss is a massive trigger for you and you aren't aware of that, that's also I was gonna say, I think there's I think it's hard too because sometimes in dark romance, some of the trauma is talked about as in like this happened to her before, and then there's a story, and then but the same the same scenario could happen in a thriller, right?
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Yeah, where and then it's like, but they still have to put the warnings that she's gone through these things because it's brought up in the book, but you don't in a in a thriller.
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Right.
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And I do think there are certain things that are triggering for people, whether it's a thriller or a dark romance.
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Exactly.
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I think it should just be always trigger or content warnings.
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Yeah, yeah throughout the board.
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Like that should should just be a thing across all genres.
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Yeah, like you don't necessarily have to do content, but maybe trigger.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I think it's become more of like a culture and convention of particular reading like communities.
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Dark romance communities basically embrace them much more, while thriller readers generally haven't developed the same expectations.
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Yeah.
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If that makes sense.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it does.
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So do we think it's because of the expectation?
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Like, if I pick up a book called The Serial Killer's Wife, for example, I'm probably expecting murder, violence, and disturbing subject matter.
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Yes.
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Graphic scenes, yeah.
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Right?
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But if I pick up a contemporary romance called The Summer We Fell in Love, that's what they're called, right?
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Yeah.
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Summer I turn pretty, we fell in love.
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I probably would not be expecting graphic depictions of sexual assault or a character's death.
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But there is character's death, and sorry, I'm sorry, but like contemporary romances are pretty sad.
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They usually are.
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Yeah.
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Nicholas Sparks is, you know, Kristen Hannah, so sad.
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And also, I don't know if she has content warnings or trigger warnings in her books, but they're historical fiction and there's a lot of sad.
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Danielle Steele did not prepare me for Johnny Angel.
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The who cried through the whole book.
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The who and the what now?
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I'm like, what?
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What's that?
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Danielle Steele is also like uh Nora Roberts vibes.
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Yeah, okay.
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So outside my my my scope.
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Yep.
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Why is this so small?
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What do you mean?
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Why is this so small?
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You read small things all the time.
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Yeah, so imagine how small this is for me to say that.
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Oh, just get that.
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A star athlete in class valedictorian, Johnny's future was brilliant until he steps into a car on prom night, and in an instant, the shiny future ended, his life over.
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And her 58th best-selling novel, Steel, tells the breathtaking story of a mother's love and a son's gift of the tragedy that nearly destroys a family and the miracle that saves them.
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Sorry, I fell asleep there.
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My asset.
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It's so good.
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I'm sure it is.
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I'll take your word for it.
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I literally came out of my brain.
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I ain't gonna find out for myself.
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It's not a big book, it was actually pretty small.
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Um, but I came out of a room.
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Like my mom was just like, What happened to you?
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Because like my eyes were just like so puffy from crying.
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Because I literally cried.
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I think there was like three pages in this entire book that did not cry in.
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Oh, thank you.
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That was the nightingale from Chris.
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You should read that.
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Kristen Hanner.
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If you want a good cry, yeah, you probably wouldn't like it.
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I absolutely would not like it.
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But you might like it.
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I think you talked about it's a historical fiction.
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I my hair keeps getting caught in my mic.
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I hate when that happens.
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Um yeah, it's a historical fiction.
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So good.
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About two sisters, you're gonna leave it at that.
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Yeah, I'm not gonna.
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Isn't it during like the Holocaust based around there?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's all I'm gonna say.
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That's all she wrote.
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I haven't cried, I haven't had a good cry since.
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You can borrow it.
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I'll give it to you one before you leave.
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It's Kelsey's favorite book.
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Is it?
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Yeah, and I think Cheryl also liked it.
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So does the genre itself function as a kind of warning?
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Like you pick up a thriller, right?
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I'm expected to be thrilled.
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Right.
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Or scary.
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Not in a good way.
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Or scared.
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But then but I think with the thriller though, is like having a content warning of there's murder in here and there's not murder in here.
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Is it more a psychological thriller?
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Because sometimes you can have both a psychological ending with murder.
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Yeah.
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True.
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Compared to like the twisty, you come out of it just feeling like you should enter a like an asylum.
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Yeah.
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True.
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So does knowing the genre actually tell you which dark themes are gonna be in the book?
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Like a thriller reader might be okay and fine with murder and whatnot, but have a very strong reaction to like pregnancy loss or animal cruelty.
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I think it depends.
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Uh, usually that's when you read the synopsis and then you can kind of get it.
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And then, like, yeah, it's not like it it will say there's a dog that dies in here.
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Right?
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John Wick.
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I would be very sad about that.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I don't think so.
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So many people went into John Wick expecting an action movie, and his dog dies at the very beginning.
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I would have left.
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A lot of people did, a lot of people did not like it because it was a puppy too.
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Yeah, still not over that.
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I haven't I have never watched any more of those movies because I'm that mad about it.
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And I've heard so many people talk about that, that they hate that movie, they haven't actually finished the movie, that they stopped watching.
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Yeah, how dare you!
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Because you go in and you're thinking because you go in thinking you're watching an action action movie, yeah.
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And I get that that's like his like villain origin story, yeah.
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But he's not a villain, he's like an arch, what is it called?
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Arch hero.
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Uh no, it's an anti-hero.
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Yeah, yeah, right.
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That's where his anti-hero story begins.
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But still, like the people needed to be warned that it wasn't just animal cruelty, it was animal death.
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A good example would be Verity by Colleen Hoover, which the movie just came out and I'm actually really excited to go.
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A lot of people aren't liking it.
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Oh, I've seen some people actually really enjoy it.
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They left out some of the things that are in the book.
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Uh yeah, that happens all the time.
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Yeah, I've I've heard it from both sides.
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I've heard people who didn't read the book, they've just gone in not knowing anything, watching the movie, didn't enjoy it, and people who've read the book who've gone in and hated it.
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Antoinette Reads just did a little reel on it and she actually loved it.
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Really?
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I mean, I'm still willing to go back.
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Oh, yeah, I'd be like, I still need to cheap Tuesday.
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I'll just go whenever it makes the full price.
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I got I got full ticket or I get the discounted tickets with my Cineplex.
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So I will go with you.
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I'd pay VIP.
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You know what?
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If I'm gonna sit through an awful movie, I better get some.
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I want the recliners.
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Yeah, the VIP seats, they still suck.
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They need the land like the They have them in Cambridge.
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The lion ones where you you do the thing that's going to be.
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Yeah.
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You could even you can get the couches, so you can actually you can either put the thing down between you or you can put it up.
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So like if you're with someone.
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Yeah, Dalton and I, when we went and saw Buddy, yeah, we had the the recliners.
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We were living our best lives.
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Hating the movie, but living our best lives.
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I just found this because I was trying to find my next read.
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Well, lines I loved, actually.
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Her text is so small.
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The Kindle's so small.
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But I downloaded this cowboy romance, and so anyways, yeah, I went into my Kindle to find my if clippings was working, any lines I loved.
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And I noticed it because I had said, I was like, oh, I realized when I downloaded this in the notes, like before I downloaded it, it said, like, oh, if you don't pretty much if cheating is triggering for you, don't read this book.
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So I was like, okay, interesting.
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So literally I go in just like because it pops up after you when you open it, yeah, like about the book.
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So I like went to go remove that from the screen and realized literally on the front page it says author's note warning this story contains cheating.
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One, no, the cheating does not occur between the love interests.
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Two, yes, she sleeps with her boyfriend's brother.
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Three, yes, her boyfriend cheats on her too.
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Four, yes, her boyfriend arguably deserves what he has coming.
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If you hate any form of cheating in your romance books, this is a good place to turn back.
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So this is just pure romance.
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Then it has content warnings.
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Yeah.
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Alcohol consumption, cheating, problematic parents, a crappy boyfriend, explicit sex, physical assault, of course, the brothers' fight, rodeo activities, roping, and that's it.
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Interesting this is for just a romance.
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But I also feel like that just spoiled the book as well.
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I mean, I didn't need to read it.
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I probably wouldn't have read it.
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Yeah, I would just cheats with her whatever, whatever who that person was.
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I'm like, okay, so you just gave me like all the plot points in this book?
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Yeah.
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Which is another, I was just gonna bring that up, which is another point that readers have issues with when it comes to like content warnings or trigger warnings, is like if you tell me character death, pregnancy loss, betrayal, and then you're 200 pages in and the main character starts feeling sick, sick, you're like, well, there it is, Susan's about to die.
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Yeah, like that's true, yeah, you know, so you start you're already going into the book.
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Like if it's child loss and they're pregnant through the whole thing, right?
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And then next thing you're like, yeah, you're 75% in, and you're like Yeah, you're almost like expecting it.
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Yeah.
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So it's almost in a sense, some readers think of it as like a spoiler.
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Yeah.
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That's why when I do see content warnings or trigger warnings, I do not read them.
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And that's what said I know I wouldn't have read that.
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I just read it out before you guys.
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Yeah, I just gonna say that's wild.
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I've never spoiled it in a straight romance.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So do we think avoiding a spoiler is more important than allowing someone else to make an informed decision about whether they want to read something?
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No, they can choose whether they want the book to be spoiled or not.
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I personally don't want it to be spoiled, and I don't get triggered that easily by things in books.
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So for me personally, that choice to skip the page isn't gonna be detrimental to my well-being.
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Right.
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But for someone else, that could be.
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Right.
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So if they want to read the spoiler warning, I think, or like the triggers or whatever.
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I think if you know that you're gonna be like if there is something that you have found to be very triggering for you, it's good to have there.
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Yeah, like I said, I saw that and I I normally would have just been like, Yeah, just like so many times, like one of you guys will mention, like, oh, like that was a really long trigger trigger list at the beginning of this book.
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And I'm like, there's a trigger list.
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Yeah, I've just been like boop, boop, boop, okay.
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The story's beginning.
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Yeah, you have to know your own like boundaries and everything.
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Yeah.
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Do we think that authors should be responsible for warnings?
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Yes.
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Yeah, because I mean they know the story, yeah.
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I mean, even if it was just like they had to tell the right people, like, hey, if you can add this to lists places, I agree.
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Like, readers should be able to make informed choices.
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Yeah, some content can be genuinely distressing for some.
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Authors know what's in their books, and it's relatively easy to provide a general list.
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Yeah.
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But it is also impossible to predict everyone's triggers.
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Yep.
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So that is where it gets sticky.
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A warning can't possibly cover everything that's in that book.
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Trigger can mean something very different to one person than to another.
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Authors are not responsible for guaranteeing a completely comfortable reading experience.
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Overwarning can potentially become absurdly comprehensive.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So it's kind of murky.
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Yeah, to be honest.
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Because, like, yeah, to a point, it's up to the author, but at the same time, it's also up to the reader to be responsible for their triggers.
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I would say it's up to the author to put it in the book.
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It's up to the reader whether they read that page.
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Right.
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That's what I think.
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Yeah.
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Like if you think you're writing something that could be possibly triggering for someone, just put it in the book.
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I also think what she's saying is like it's it's hard sometimes to realize what triggers people could have.
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Right.
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So, like, say, say you were in a really bad car accident in a snowstorm.
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And after that, seeing or reading about snowstorms, you find it slightly triggering for you.
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I get what you're saying.
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Yeah, yeah.
00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:23.200
This and then you're a snowstorm.
00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:23.599
Yeah.
00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:25.920
And then you're right.
00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:31.680
And you're going into this being like, it's summertime, but they've decided to head to Colorado, up the mountain, there's snow at the top.
00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:32.960
Don't come now there yet.
00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:33.200
Yeah.
00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:33.519
Right.
00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:38.240
So they're just like, as a author, I wouldn't be like, there is a snowstorm that they can't.
00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:39.200
That's what I mean.
00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:41.440
You can't predict everyone's triggers, right?
00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:47.200
So the bigger question is are we warning readers or are we marketing the darkness?
00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:47.599
Oh.
00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:48.799
Like a little bit of both.
00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:50.480
Okay, so for Beth and I.
00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:50.880
Yes.
00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:58.480
When we're looking for a dark romance or dark book, we see the darkest things possible and we're like, send, send to cast.
00:24:58.880 --> 00:24:59.359
Right.
00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:02.400
Immediately, adds to TBR.
00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:02.799
Yeah.
00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:08.480
So many times when people come for cast in like the book group, there's like, Cass, I see you have this on your TBR.
00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:09.599
Like, what the heck?
00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:11.519
And I'm like, adds to cart.
00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:12.000
What was that?
00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:12.960
Oh, ghost dick.
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:13.279
Yeah.
00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:14.960
Maybe we should read that next.
00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:15.680
Yes.
00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:18.079
Perfect month for a little ghost.
00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:19.440
Susie's Homer Simpson.
00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:20.880
I'm like Homer Simpson.
00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:21.599
I'll be out of there.
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:24.079
I'll be reading some sort of cozy romance fantasy.
00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:25.039
Hadder at ghost.
00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:26.720
Yeah.
00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:32.480
So sometimes the content warning or trigger warnings isn't necessarily a beware for some people.
00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:35.279
Sometimes it's a neon sign.
00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:38.640
And you can come for us thinking we're weird and we're disgusting.
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:42.079
And you'd be right in your uh Susie called me unhinged on the last episode.
00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:43.279
So I mean she's not wrong.
00:25:43.519 --> 00:25:44.240
I mean, yeah.
00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:46.480
Some of your lines are pretty unhinged.
00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:49.119
They like start good and then they just end on like such a weird note.
00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:50.480
I'm like, I actually have to do that.
00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:56.000
Honestly, I feel like I try to find line one, I uh my lines I loved are more like lines that made me laugh.
00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:56.960
Yeah, that's true.
00:25:57.200 --> 00:26:02.079
Um, and then they're also like both Susie and Cass is gonna like this, and it made me laugh.
00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:02.640
Right?
00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:02.880
Right?
00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:07.440
So, like a lot of times there's like a little bit of like yearny, and then it's like unhinged spice.
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:09.680
Susie can handle some unhingedness.
00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:10.160
I can.
00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:11.599
I just want it all the time.
00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:12.240
Yeah, yeah.
00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:14.079
Small doses, yeah, basically.
00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:16.799
Mines are lines I loved that made me laugh.
00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:19.839
That I want to tell these two because I think they'll enjoy at least part of it.
00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:20.319
Yeah.
00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:24.960
Okay, we're gonna get into some trigger warning rapid fire.
00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:25.279
Okay.
00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:25.680
Ready?
00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:26.079
Perfect.
00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:26.720
I'm ready.
00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:28.240
Do you read trigger warnings?
00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:29.119
Yes or no?
00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:30.960
No, no, I do sometimes.
00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:32.000
It's like a menu.
00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:38.160
I think it's it's more if it they've put it somewhere where I it's like, hey, it's like it's usually at the beginning.
00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:39.119
So it's like, yeah.
00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:42.960
It's like I'm just like when you're downloading the book and it's like this book contains, I'm like, oh.
00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:44.160
Yeah, it's like the menu.
00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:44.480
Yeah.
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:46.799
This is how your reading experience is gonna go.
00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:48.880
Yeah, like if they put it before like the synopsis.
00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:50.240
I'm gonna get hate for that.
00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:55.119
The only thing I read prior to the prologue or chapter one is the dedication, and then I'm like, oh that's sweet.
00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:56.799
Then I go on, but any I skip.
00:26:57.200 --> 00:27:00.240
Would you prefer the warnings before the book or at the end of the book?
00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:03.599
Oh, you need them before no, because now here's the thing.
00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:13.440
Okay, if you don't want to be reading them as a spoiler, sometimes people like out of curiosity, will read it and be like, damn it, now I'm expecting all these things.
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:19.279
But if it's at the end of the book, people can choose to choose to flip to the end, read the list, and then go back.
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:20.240
That would be better.
00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:20.640
Yeah.
00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:25.279
I would say first page for whatever trigger warning list at backup book.
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:25.519
Yeah.
00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:27.759
And then it's up to the reader to decide to proceed.
00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:29.599
Yeah, it's like kind of like an index.
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:30.000
Yeah.
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:30.960
Yes, right?
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:31.359
Okay.
00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:31.839
Okay.
00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:33.599
And then the pages where those things are mentioned.
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:37.359
Ooh, that's good at trigger warning index.
00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:37.920
Right?
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:39.680
Take note, publishers.
00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:40.960
You have to pay us though.
00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:41.119
Yeah.
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:41.839
This is our idea.
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:43.039
Yeah, we patented that.
00:27:43.119 --> 00:27:44.400
So trademark!
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:48.000
Gonna pull an alley rose here.
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:50.799
Okay, what is your biggest reading trigger?
00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:51.599
That has one.
00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:52.720
Um blood related.
00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:56.720
I don't really have any, I don't really read anything that has blood related.
00:27:57.279 --> 00:27:58.559
Like actually blood related.
00:27:58.880 --> 00:27:59.839
Oh, yes.
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:02.720
That's the line that you guys said were, you know, the line.
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:04.319
It is the line.
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:15.119
I thought you were saying my trigger warning was blood related, but you mean the trigger warning is blood related.
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:17.759
Yeah, like your biggest one that incest.
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:18.799
Straight incest.
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:21.519
Not like they're related, but like they're not blood related.
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:24.400
Like they're blood relation incest.
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:24.880
Yeah.
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:25.599
I'd say everything.
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:27.200
Everything is your trigger?
00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:28.480
No, Susie.
00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:31.599
Not everything, but like, I don't know what my triggers are.
00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:32.799
I have to experiment.
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:34.480
Uh well, periods.
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:36.240
She doesn't like periods and text messages.
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:36.720
Period.
00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:38.160
I mean, thumbs up.
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:39.920
Probably doesn't like the thumbs down.
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:46.160
If we're gonna talk about triggers, I remind I said something to Beth the other day, and I'm like, oh, don't forget.
00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:51.440
And she's like, Why are you telling me don't forget if I never even told me you did not tell the whole story?
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:56.640
She said, Don't forget, blah blah blah, but the blah blah blah, no one told me about.
00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:58.079
So it was don't forget.
00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:02.000
I didn't tell you, it's not I didn't tell you this, but it's very don't forget.
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.319
So she's saying, Don't forget of something that I didn't even know.
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:05.279
Oh now, children.
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:06.000
That's a trigger.
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:07.839
That's triggering for me.
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:09.119
What are your triggers?
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:10.000
Let us know.
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:11.039
Yeah.
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:13.440
Well, yeah, what is something that people do?
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:16.000
Also, people eating with their mouth closed, uh, mouth open.
00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:19.759
I was gonna say, if it's like a like a cow or closed, it's a trigger.
00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:22.240
That's and I'm like, ugh.
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:23.599
The mouth sounds, yeah.
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:26.799
Harrison's a very loud eater, and he'll be sitting there eating.
00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:35.039
So it's Nina, and I'm like, I can feel my eye twitching, and I'm like, I love you so much, but throw you out this window.
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:39.279
I remember the one night at dinner when we lived with your parents still, and I turn an A.
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:42.240
I'm like, you eat like a horse, and your mom scolded me so bad.
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:43.440
She's like, That's so mean.
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:44.799
I'm like, Oh, I say cow.
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:45.920
Have you ever seen a cow eat?
00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:48.160
No, but I really like on a horse farm.
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:50.480
So people that chew their gum like this.
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:52.480
Yeah, horses do the same thing.
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:55.039
Calling someone a cow though.
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:57.519
Talk to your insult.
00:29:58.240 --> 00:29:59.680
In many ways.
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:01.039
In many ways.
00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:02.400
Yes, many forms.
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:05.359
Okay, one thing you never want to read about.
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:07.680
Yeah, that's gross.
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:08.880
Pregnancy.
00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:10.319
The tropes.
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:11.599
That's another trigger.
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:12.640
This is super fair.
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:14.960
I'm not triggered, but I'm just like, nah.
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:15.839
You don't like it.
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:18.880
One warning you think is completely unnecessary.
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:20.000
Snowstorms.
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:24.079
Snowstorms.
00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:25.039
Well, like that one.
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:27.440
They literally were like, there's roping in this.
00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:29.279
It's like, come on.
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:31.759
Maybe it's a trigger.
00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:32.720
I don't need to know.
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.279
Maybe there was someone who was in the rodeo and they accidentally got roped.
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:38.000
You don't know.
00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:38.799
Valid.
00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:41.839
The most useful warning.
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:42.799
That's a hard one.
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:43.839
That's a how do you pick one?
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:45.279
A lot of them are useful.
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:46.160
Child loss.
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:48.079
That's yeah, is a is a big one.
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:49.200
Probably essay.
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:49.519
Yeah.
00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:49.920
Yeah.
00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:51.519
Schmirder as well.
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:52.720
Perhaps.
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:54.720
Depending on the type of schmurder.
00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:55.440
Yeah.
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:56.720
What led up to it?
00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.519
Have you ever DNF'd because of a trigger?
00:30:59.680 --> 00:30:59.920
No.
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:04.160
I've DNF'd because I just didn't like the dark romance aspect to it.
00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:05.440
Yet.
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:07.440
Never been triggered.
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:09.599
It's just I was like, ugh, I don't like this.
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:10.480
Would that be a trigger?
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:10.720
No.
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:11.200
It would just be.
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:12.319
No, it's just Mike.
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:13.119
Not for me.
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:13.599
Not for me.
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:13.839
Yeah.
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:15.519
This one is obviously Beth.
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:17.680
Have you ever kept reading despite a trigger warning?
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:18.160
Yeah.
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:18.960
Obviously.
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:20.079
I'm interested.
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:21.279
I'm intrigued.
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:22.559
That's what I'm saying.
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:24.319
For me, I am that person.
00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:29.759
I'll see the trigger warning list and be like when they they've had like the the trigger warnings that you you're like, what is that?
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:30.400
What is that?
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:32.720
And then you Google it and you're like, oh, okay.
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:34.160
Do you know what comments we're gonna get?
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:36.480
Must be so nice that you don't have any trauma.
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:38.160
I have trauma.
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:39.279
I've got trauma.
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:41.359
Oh girls.
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:44.079
We all just I got a whole childhood full of trauma.
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:45.440
We all got trauma.
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:47.359
We just deal with it in different ways.
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:49.279
Have you ever skipped a scene because of the content?
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:49.680
Yep.
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:50.559
Susie, yes.
00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:51.519
Me, no.
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:53.039
I don't think so.
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:57.440
I mean, I might have read it with like being like with a disgusted look on your face.
00:31:57.680 --> 00:31:59.759
And like, where is this going?
00:31:59.920 --> 00:32:05.359
I'm gonna bring it back to Little Stranger because that one scene I was like the end of book one.
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:06.319
Yeah, yeah.
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:07.440
But it's great book.
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:14.319
But it was it was also like you're sitting there being like, what the cass, have you gone to the book?
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:16.079
Are we reading book two?
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:20.400
I don't think it was that are we reading book two?
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:24.079
Is do I have to wait for you for true?
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:28.240
Would you rather know the trigger before buying or before the scene?
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:29.119
Before buying?
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:30.720
Before the scene, maybe.
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:31.359
I don't know.
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:33.839
Before buying, I don't want to waste my money on something that I'm not gonna do.
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:35.599
Susie for sure before buying.
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:36.960
Yeah, that's smart.
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:39.920
Do warnings ruin suspense?
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:41.839
Sometimes, yeah, yeah, sometimes.
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:42.240
For sure.
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:44.480
Can a warning actually make you more curious about a book?
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:44.960
Absolutely.
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:46.079
So yes.
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:50.480
I would say for me too, if there's like, oh, I wonder how they're gonna do that, I would say yeah.
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:51.759
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:54.319
Most ridiculous ridiculous warning you've ever seen.
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:55.119
Roping.
00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:55.680
Yeah.
00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:56.880
Yeah, that's weird.
00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:58.000
I don't need that.
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:00.799
Most shocking thing you've read without a warning.
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:02.160
Ooh, that's you too.
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:02.640
Man.
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:04.079
Little stranger.
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:06.160
That's shocking to me.
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:10.160
But there was warning, but I don't think any type of warning could have prepared me for that.
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:10.480
No.
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:11.599
If I'm being honest.
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:15.680
There are there's so many levels to that scene.
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:18.640
Blood play, murder, death.
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:19.680
I gotta chill.
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:20.720
Stop.
00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:24.720
Sexual scene in blood play.
00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:27.599
There's a zero brother, step sister.
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:29.279
Very taboo.
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:32.079
Father catching them.
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:33.359
Adoptive father.
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:34.640
Let's make that very clear.
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:35.839
I'm done.
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:37.759
Should thrillers have trigger warnings?
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:38.240
Yeah.
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:38.880
You do?
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:39.200
Yeah.
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:41.440
Sometimes sometimes they do are pretty graphic.
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:44.640
I think if Derek Romance has to have it, then triggers.
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:45.039
Yeah.
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:45.920
Thrillers should too.
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:46.640
They're both too.
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:48.720
Again, and then it is up to you whether or not you read it.
00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:50.000
Should horror have trigger warnings?
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:52.079
I'm just gonna be honest.
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:58.160
If you're picking up a horror novel, but if you have triggers, but what kind of horror are you getting though?
00:33:58.400 --> 00:33:58.799
True.
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:00.400
Is it like paranormal horror?
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:03.519
Because that's a trigger for me, and I just continue on anyway because I'm curious.
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:12.800
I just feel like horror as a genre, like it's just but I feel like that, but I feel like that about dark romance and I yeah, I guess.
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:13.280
Right?
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:16.159
Like if you're picking up dark romance, like you get some fucked up shit.
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:20.400
Like you know, you're you're entering you're entering the darkness, the dark realm.
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:21.280
Yeah, yeah.
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:27.199
Any sort of book, genre, or book that you pick up that is a thriller, dark themes, horror, definitely dark.
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:31.039
If it is dark in any way, yeah, trigger warning, yeah.
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:35.280
Okay, content warnings, maybe at the back of the book, so you don't spoil it for yourself if you choose.
00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:37.119
Trigger content to index.
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:38.880
Should romance have trigger warnings?
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:39.519
No.
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:41.440
Yes.
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Explain.
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This book contains finger grace.
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:48.079
That could be too much for people.
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I'm just saying.
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It's enthralling.
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Leave this book this book may cause you to yearn too much.
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This book might cause your heart to grow ten times the sadder.
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Next time you do a Susie's yearn reel, should I do a content warning?
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:08.159
This book may cause you to yearn too much.
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:10.559
Maybe like some of the sad ones.
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:13.519
This book could cause uncontrollable sobbing.
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:15.199
I have I made this.
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Just so you guys know.
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It will be available soon.
00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:18.320
Oh, Kindle inserts.
00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:18.800
Yeah, they're coming.
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:19.760
Kindle inserts.
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I made this.
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Get a good look.
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This will be coming for a purchase.
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I made all these.
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:33.039
Um, so this one says R for restricted, and it says contents may cause excessive yearning and an obsession with fictional men.
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:35.360
You are obsessed with fictional men.
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:36.000
What are you talking about?
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:36.960
I'm good with that part.
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:37.519
Yeah.
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:40.960
Do we think that every book should have content warnings?
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:42.159
Not every book.
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:42.960
Some like one.
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:43.760
No.
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:44.159
No.
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Would you rather be spoiled or blindsided?
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:48.320
Blindsided.
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:48.960
Same.
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:49.519
Same.
00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:50.079
Yeah.
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:54.880
Sometimes the the shock factor is where you're just like, wow.
00:35:58.000 --> 00:35:58.559
Right?
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:03.360
So that's how shocked you are.
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:04.639
And it's so good.
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:05.039
Yeah.
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:05.440
Okay.
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:09.199
I already know the answer for me and Beth, but I'm gonna ask it anyways, okay?
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:12.880
Have you ever read a book specifically because the warnings made it sound insane?
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:14.079
Ghost dick.
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:14.800
No.
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:16.719
The name alone is insane.
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:17.119
Yeah.
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:19.519
I say the synopsis is usually what I'd read.
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.960
And if it sounds insane, then I'm like, oh yeah, that's that's the thing for ghost dick.
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:24.400
There's no synopsis.
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:27.119
Cast literally was like, I'm gonna read pounded in the patch.
00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:29.039
I'm like, don't know what it's about, I'm in.
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:30.880
It has the word pounded and patched.
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:32.719
Yeah, I was intrigued off of the name alone.
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:33.360
It was in a pound.
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:34.800
But it wasn't until people started talking about it.
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:37.119
I was like, oh, I should probably maybe look at who's not the book is about.
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:38.079
Snops bad.
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:38.960
Yeah, don't read it.
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:40.960
We'll let you know about ghost stick, though.
00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:42.480
Yeah, BRB on that one.
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:46.480
One book you think gets unfairly judged because of its warnings.
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:48.639
This one could ruffle some feathers.
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:49.119
It could.
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:49.840
That's on you.
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:51.679
I actually have I've been drawing up a blank.
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:52.400
I have no idea.
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:54.000
And stir the pot.
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:56.719
You can't think of a book that's been unfairly judged.
00:36:56.960 --> 00:36:57.920
Because of its warnings?
00:36:58.079 --> 00:36:58.239
Yeah.
00:36:58.400 --> 00:36:59.920
She doesn't read any books on warnings.
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.559
I don't follow like any creators that talk about it.
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:03.119
I don't know.
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:05.679
Are there any books that have been unfairly judged?
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:07.199
Or appropriately judged?
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:07.679
Yeah.
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:09.840
Has there been any controversies?
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:11.920
Haunting Adeline is the obvious.
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:14.639
I wouldn't say it's unfairly judged.
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.519
I think it depends on the side.
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:18.079
Yeah.
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:20.000
I think it depends on the side you're on.
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:26.639
Because some people are so against some of the content, but it's also like the other side of the people are very for that content.
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:28.960
Yeah, like the dark romance readers, like Beth and I.
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:32.159
Some a lot of our books could be unfairly judged.
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:32.719
Yes.
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:35.440
But as we've said, do we agree with everything in those books?
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:35.760
No.
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:41.280
Do we enjoy reading them because we know that they're fiction and we're a little unhinged?
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:42.079
Yes.
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:44.320
I guess you've hit it.
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:45.039
Yeah.
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:45.599
I'm okay.
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:46.559
I've never hid it.
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:50.079
I've never hid the fact that I like dark romance, and I'll never not say that I do.
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:50.400
Yeah.
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:52.239
And people can come for me, and that is fine.
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:53.599
I know who I am as a person.
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:54.800
I'm going to make a sticker.
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:55.360
What?
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:56.639
It's going to be a door hinge.
00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:58.079
Unhinged.
00:37:58.480 --> 00:37:58.960
Love it.
00:37:59.119 --> 00:37:59.920
Perfect.
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:02.320
I'll put it on my Kindle insert too.
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:05.760
It'll be the one that Beth and I have in common on our Kindle inserts.
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:06.480
This is cute.
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:07.760
Maybe there should be some crossover.
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:09.360
Oh, that'd be fun.
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:12.159
I'm going to put Don't Be a Beth DNF on mine as well.
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:13.119
I do have that online.
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:13.760
You do?
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:14.079
Yeah.
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:15.599
Do you guys want any of mine?
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:16.480
Probably.
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:19.199
I didn't know we were allowed to steal from Jesus.
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:20.320
I do like the Jesus one.
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:21.119
It makes me laugh.
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:21.519
Yeah.
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:22.559
I had to put Jesus.
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:24.079
It's not like, is that smut?
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:27.039
Because it's not my Kindle, but Jesus is watching everybody else.
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:28.639
Just saying.
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:29.360
Judging.
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:29.760
Yeah.
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:36.239
Okay, lastly, what is something you think people should be warned about before reading a book that isn't technically a trigger?
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:37.039
That's a tough one.
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:37.840
It is a tough one.
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:38.400
I don't know.
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:40.159
Because you never know what's triggered by.
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:41.039
Examples.
00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:42.079
A bad ending.
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:43.519
Annoying FMC.
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:44.079
That's a big one.
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:49.280
Cheating, Insta love, cliffhanger, 47-year-old billionaire having like a toddler mentality.
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:49.920
Mentality.
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:52.800
Behaving like a todd toddler, sorry.
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:58.239
I would say, well, a lot of horror books that I've been reading recently and on a very bad note.
00:38:58.400 --> 00:38:59.679
That's a trigger for me.
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:03.840
Because I want answers, and then some of them are just so open-ended.
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:05.519
And I'm like, well, net what happened?
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:06.559
And there's no sequel.
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:07.519
And it's awful.
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:09.039
Same with horror movies.
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:10.000
There's never a good ending.
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:10.559
Oh no.
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:12.000
You never get a happy ending with a horror movie.
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:12.960
Yeah, but I'm new to the genre.
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:14.159
And I'm like, what the heck is this?
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:16.400
I spent so many hours reading this to get a resolution.
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:18.159
Prepare to be disappointed every time.
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:18.719
Yeah, I am.
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:19.760
Very disappointing.
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.719
Excessive and or super cheesy love scenes.
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:24.239
But I thought you like Hallmark.
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:26.960
No, like so like the Bryn Weaver series.
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:27.360
Oh.
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:35.840
So I'm expecting this like vampire reaper romance with like some badassery, which there is, but there's not enough of it.
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:41.840
It's there's like super fluffy, cheesy romance scenes.
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:42.559
Fair.
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:43.679
And there's a lot of them.
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:53.920
Like there's supposed to be this huge battle at the end, and we're so focused on them having sex in different places and their yearn for one another, even though they've already been having sex all the time, anyway.
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:54.239
Yes.
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:57.039
For me, I hate an annoying FMC.
00:39:57.199 --> 00:39:58.239
Like Zodiac.
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:00.880
Those two girls pissed me off every five seconds.
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:02.880
I went from agreeing with you to disagree.
00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:05.199
Tori, shut up.
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:07.679
You should make a sticker that says that.
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:08.960
Shut up, Tori.
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:13.440
I thought we had like a Zodiac fan club and we didn't hater.
00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:14.320
We didn't need to put those on.
00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:15.599
We did make stickers.
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:16.239
We did.
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:18.400
They got lost in the sticker verse.
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:19.199
Verse.
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:22.559
I have questions for you guys.
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:23.760
Questioner time.
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The questioners.
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:30.159
Do you actively look at trigger warnings or content warnings before starting a book?
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:33.119
Or do you prefer to go in blind?
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:37.360
And if you could add one universal content warning to every book, what would it be?
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:39.280
Let us know in the comments.
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:40.079
Below.
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:42.480
Now it's time for Wines We Loved.
00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:46.719
Oh, I have- Wow, that was sad, guys.
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:47.760
I have none.
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:49.440
You had none last time, too.
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:50.800
I do I have one.
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:51.679
You have one too?
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:52.719
Page eight.
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:53.599
Okay.
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:54.800
I just didn't have one.
00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:56.000
From We Live Here Now?
00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:57.599
We yeah, we live here now.
00:40:57.679 --> 00:40:57.840
Yeah.
00:40:58.159 --> 00:40:59.920
Also, who updated the Instagram?
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:00.400
For what?
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:01.039
For the book.
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:03.039
Oh.
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:06.239
You wrote you put a completely different book in there.
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:06.800
Oh, did I?
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:07.920
Is it we used to live here?
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:09.039
Oh, that's why.
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:11.199
I yeah, I'm gonna put I will change it.
00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:11.679
Eeps.
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:12.800
I've already changed it.
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:13.760
Oh, that's good.
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:14.159
Thank you.
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:18.239
I kept I like even looking at the side, I'm like, we used to live here.
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:19.920
It's not it.
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:21.760
I was like, ooh, the heck.
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:24.480
And especially because like the post is right underneath.
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:26.480
I think it's so bad.
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:29.519
There's only mistakes, it's usually anyway.
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:33.760
Because I went in, I think it was like the same day that we like updated what our book of the club was.
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:34.000
Yeah.
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:34.800
Book of the club.
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:35.519
Book of the club.
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:37.280
I don't have anything, so just go without me.
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:38.480
Oh my goodness.
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:43.519
Guys, it's really hard to pick any lines you loved out of like scary books, and that's all you're reading.
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:45.920
Ours is excuses.
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:46.480
Let's go.
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:48.000
Oh, I just started it.
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:49.199
No, page eight.
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:50.079
No, get out of here.
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:50.639
Page eight.
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:52.079
All right, so we live here now.
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:54.400
This is from page eight.
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:55.599
I am not a good person.
00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:57.039
How could I have done this to her?
00:41:57.119 --> 00:41:59.039
How can I still be doing it to her?
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:05.199
After what she's been through, everything she's been through, the guilt, the constant fear of discovery is a cancer inside of me.
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:07.760
How have I got myself so trapped?
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:08.480
Wow.
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:09.599
That's a good line.
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:11.920
Mine's page 120 from the same book.
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:16.960
After a few years of marriage, love lingers on as a matter of habit, but the affection fades.
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:20.800
The affection is the magic, that warmth and wanting to be near someone to touch them.
00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:22.159
That's good.
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:22.559
Yeah.
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:23.199
It's a choice.
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:24.480
I I enjoy the book.
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:25.119
Me too.
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:25.599
Perfect.
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:28.719
If you guys didn't know, we now have memberships live on our YouTube.
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:32.079
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00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:33.920
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00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:34.639
Don't do the YouTube.
00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:35.679
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00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:36.880
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00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:39.039
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00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:41.199
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00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:48.239
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00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:48.880
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00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:49.360
Yeah.
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:54.079
For everyone who's been asking, we will make sure that our Amazon link is on this one.
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:55.360
Oh, people have been asking?
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:57.199
Yeah, because it wasn't on the last one we said it was.
00:42:57.360 --> 00:42:58.000
Oh, sorry about that.
00:42:58.159 --> 00:42:58.639
Oops.
00:42:58.719 --> 00:42:58.960
Okay.
00:42:59.039 --> 00:42:59.440
All right.
00:42:59.599 --> 00:42:59.920
Yes.
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All right, till next time.
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