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I'm oegar, this is ESPN fifteen
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It is guard Us outside. Hopefully
you have had a terrific Wednesday so far.
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I'll be honest with you, it
sort of feels like Friday to me
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because I'm off tomorrow, and so
you'll just have to deal with that.
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I guess loaded show today. Lot's
happening. Red's applying the Rockies this afternoon,
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and we'll keep you up to date
with that as the afternoon unfolds.
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Red's looking for a second consecutive win
and a series victory, coming home to
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play the Yankees this weekend, and
so a lot happening with the Reds.
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Brandon Williamson was terrific last night,
and we are going to spend some time
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on that here at the top of
the show we have with us in about
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fifteen minutes, Kevin Egan from Apple
TV, who is hosting MLS three sixty
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tonight and the Orange and Blue FC
Cincinnati is in action this evening on ESPN
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fifteen thirty, getting set to take
on Montreal, and so we'll talk about
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that game and the team with Kevin
coming up at about fifteen minutes. I
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do want to spend a few minutes
on the difference between cheating and doing something
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that others don't approve of, as
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is going to be in town this
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about betting the PGA Championship this weekend with
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our guy Cam Rogers coming up at
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a few pole questions as well,
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Reds did win last night. Brandon
Williamson as Big League debuts Go was just
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terrific in Colorado at coors Field against
the same Rockies team that kind of lit
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up Hunter Green the night before.
For what it's worth, trying to break
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a two game losing skid, frankly, isn't worth all that much. You
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couldn't have drawn it up any better. He was in control, he worked
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from ahead. If you watch that
game last night and knew nothing about Brandon
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Williamson, you would not arrive at
the conclusion that that was a guy making
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his major league debut last night.
And Nick Ladolo is in the news today
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because the injury that was being called
a calf issue is now being labeled a
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stress reaction in his left tibia.
He is in a walking boot, and
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he's going to be reevaluated in a
couple of weeks, and so who knows,
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you know when we're going to see
him again. But as as you
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watched Brandon Williamson last night, or
as you listened to his start in Denver,
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and he was terrific five and two
thirds, gave up just two hits,
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walked a couple of the guys,
struck out six, surrender the home
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run of the sixth. Thenning left
a guy on basse before he was pulled
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in favor of Derek Law and by
the way, terrific bullpen night last night
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as well, small margin for air, tough ballpark to pitch, and Derek
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Law, alex Young, Ian Jabbow
and Alexis Diez were each spectacular. But
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as you watch Brandon Williamson last night, if you're like me and God knows,
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for the most part, I hope
you're not. While there are things
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that have to get sorted out with
this rotation. That goes without saying.
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Hunter Green has to be more reliable. Nicolodolo has to be healthy, and
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when he's healthy, he has to
be better than he was before he suffered
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the injury. Andrew has to get
here and has to be as good as
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advertised. Brandon Williamson has to be
as good as he looked last night as
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well. There are a lot of
teams in baseball who would love to be
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able to say, in two years, have a pretty good idea of what
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our rotation is going to look like. Now injury can have a lot to
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say about this. Hell. At
some point, maybe the Reds trade one
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of these starting pitchers because they they
need to go and get somebody to fill
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another need. Who knows, but
in two years it is plausible that the
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starting rotation will be Hunter Green,
Graham Ashcraft, Nicolodola, Brandon Williamson,
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and Andrew Abbott. Now I'll say
this about Brandon Williamson, a little bit
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of a rough road to finally getting
to Cincinnati after they acquired him for the
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Mariners last year, and his Louisville
numbers were not great, although he was
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fine in his last two starts before
the promotion. And Andrew Abbott hasn't yet
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own a pitch at the big league
level. But you look around this sport
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a whole lot of teams that,
first of all, would love to be
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able to say in two years,
here's who we hope is in our starting
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rotation. Here are the exact five
guys, and they're also among those group
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of teams. Pretty much all of
them would love to be able to say,
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and our five guys are going to
be these five dudes in particular.
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Again, nothing is guaranteed, and
none of these guys are finished products.
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I think I've used the term finished
product or unfinished products two thousand times this
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week. But boy, there's there's
a lot of clubs in baseball right now
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who and maybe it's not that big
of a deal to them because they're in
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contention today. But ask them who's
going to be in your rotation two years
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from now? It's gonna be a
whole lot of general managers who give you
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a blank stare, huh, who
I don't know, haven't thought that far
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ahead, or we're not prepared to
answer. The Reds can tell you that
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that's that's a nice place to be
if you're Nick Krawl. It's a really
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nice place to be if you're a
Reds fan. And of those who can
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say with some amount of certainty,
this is who we at least would like
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to be in our starting rotation two
years from now, how many of those
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gems would like to say? Hunter
Green, Nick Nickoladolo, Graham Ashcraft,
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Andrew Abbott and Brandon Williamson like those
are? Those are five dudes who two
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years from now will either be in
their prime or just then starting to enter.
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Not a retread in the fet in
the in the mix. Now that
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that doesn't mean the Reds aren't going
to value a veteran pitcher, who can,
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you know, provide what veteran pitchers
provide. That's not to say there's
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not going to be setbacks. That's
not to say that one of these guys
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ultimately isn't going to be destined for
the bullpen. That's not to say that
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one of these guys could, you
know, ultimately uh not be traded.
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But boy, right now, if
you're Nick Krawl, I think you have
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to feel pretty good. In two
years our rotation could include these five guys.
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Look around the sport. How many
gms can say, with any amount
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of certainty, in two years we
know who our five guys are going to
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be. How many of those gms
can say with any amount of certainty it's
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gonna be five guys with the upside
of each of those individuals. The answer
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really is not that many. Twelve
minutes after three o'clock, our numbers are
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A five point three seven four nine
fifteen thirty and eight six six seven O
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two three seven seven six. Matt
McClean is not playing today. He did
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get a big hit last night.
Nick Senzel hit a two run shot which
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gave the Reds lead. I you
know, up until this year, I
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rooted for Nick Senzel because he plays
for the Reds and if he plays well,
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the Reds have a better chance of
winning. But and I've had no
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real attachment to the guy. Uh
No, you know special reason for rooting
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for him, But I admit to
over the last year or so growing I
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don't want to say fond of him
because that sounds weird. I've become a
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bigger fan than I think I ever
thought I would be, and I don't
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I don't know specifically what it is. I think more than anything, I
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just I like rooting for people to
prove others wrong when I feel like those
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others have prematurely counted them out.
Now, with Nick senzel Man, is
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he going to be here in two
years? I have no idea. I'm
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not sure he's going to be here
in a couple of months. If he
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ends up continuing to produce, and
most importantly with Nick, he's got to
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stay healthy. He was the NL
Player of the Week a couple of weeks
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ago, then he went through a
little bit of a lull last night a
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big home run, had a big
night two nights ago when he got on
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base five times, including three walks. I just I don't know where he's
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gonna end up. Maybe the Reds
end up having so much of a log
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jam that a guy like is sent
somewhere else. Maybe they have found his
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home at third base. I don't
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Well, there's two things. First
of all, are there are fans among
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us who will take a player's injury
history and use that as a reason to
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assassinate the player's character. That is
one of the things I despise most in
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sports. Number two, there's a
lot of folks, and perhaps with some
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justification, who have kind of just
dismissed the idea of Nick Senzel being a
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part of this team moving forward,
and part of that is on his injury
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history. I like rooting for people
who I feel like have been prematurely counted
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out. And again, you know, there's there's probably a guy who's on
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the team right now who it appears
they have years of team control that ultimately
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gets traded away, and maybe that
guy's Nick Senzel. I kind of think
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that guy's going to be Jonathan India, and you can find a lot of
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people who are starting to believe exactly
that. But in the short term,
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watching Nick Senzel have success and watching
his success matter helping the team win,
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for me at least, is something
I really enjoy. You're welcome to chime
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in on that as well. Um
FC Cincinnati plays tonight, first of consecutive
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home games tonight against Montreal Saturday against
Columbus. Kevin Egan is hosting MLSC three.
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I was gonna say since three sixty
is hosting MLS three sixty tonight on
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Apple. He had the FC Cincinnati
Tilts against Portland a few weeks ago,
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was nice enough to come on our
show. Then he is going to join
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our show next on ESPN fifteen thirty
Cincinnati Sports Station Yeah and fifteen thirty Cincinnati
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available everywhere with the iHeartRadio app down
number one podcasting ESPN fifteen thirty and iHeartRadio
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Station exactly three twenty on ESPN fifteen
thirty on Moeger, thank you so much
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for joining us. FC Cincinnati is
home tonight and then again on Saturday.
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The hell is Real rivalry game on
Saturday is going to be an absolute blast
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with the Columbus crew in town.
But first things first, FCC versus CF
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Montreal. That game starts at seven
thirty tonight. Part of the Apple TV
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coverage is MLS three sixty, which
is a terrific whip around the entire league.
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Tonight. It's going to be hosted
by Kevin Egan, We had Kevin
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on the show just about a month
ago. He called the FC Cincinnati match
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against Portland play by play guy,
studio host for MLS Season Pass on Apple
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TV, and they do a terrific
job covering the league. Kevin nice enough
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to give us a few minutes.
It is good to have you back with
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us. Kevin, How are you
no brilliant tanks? Are you keeping yourself
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doing terrific? I want to go
back before we look ahead to tonight,
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your experience calling the FC Cincinnati tilt
here a few weeks ago. How was
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it? I sound like I'm just
saying this to you because I'm on the
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radio with you, But it's my
favorite place. It's my favorite place to
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go in Major League soccer. Yeah, it is because the fans bring it.
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I mean, you're talking about six
straight home wings now on the bounce,
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but it's also six straight sellouts.
Um, you know, I think
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one of them was technically not a
sellout. It was still well over twenty
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five thousand though. And you're talking
about like raucous electric fans in the bailey
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and the march to the stadium,
the fact that the pitch is so good
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you can see the city from the
broadcast booth as a as a broadcaster,
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the booth is perfect and everybody they're
so friendly. So I love going to
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Cincinnati. It's my favorite stadium to
go to. And then when the team
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can perform the way they're doing,
with the fun type of soccer that they're
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playing under Pat Noonan, it's it's
a real joy, honestly. You know,
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again, I say I sound like
I'm saying this because I'm on the
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radio with you in Cincinnati, but
it's it's what I've been saying to all
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my broadcast colleagues around the league.
It doesn't at all sound patronizing. And
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and it's interesting because I hear a
lot of folks in your capacity say the
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same thing. And I when when
this club was introduced in twenty sixteen in
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the United Soccer League at a different
venue, you know, people gravitated toward
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it and the atmosphere was incredible.
And then they get the stadium built and
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the stadium is terrific, and then
I'm thinking, Okay, well this is
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all well and good. At some
point, you know, that has to
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take a back seat to what is
actually happening on the field. And now
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maybe that's not the case. Because
you're getting this perfect marriage of great venue,
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enthusiastic fans and one of the best
teams in the league, and that
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is absolutely perfect. Yeah, and
I think I think a lot of credit
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has to go to ownership for the
realization that the way the team started was
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pretty horrific with you know, obviously, the points totals are well documented,
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back to back to back last place
finishes, but the recognition then of Okay,
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how do Philadelphia do it? What
sort of success that they had at
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why? And then the recruitment of
of the the gentlemen that are in charge
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now, you know, like all
Bright with the technical side of things,
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and then noon and as the head
coach, Pat Newton's assistants are are all
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really experienced guys like Tom Kineer.
I think I said this to you before,
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Moo. You know, if you're
a young coach forty two years of
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age like Pat Noonan and you're comfortable
enough with in your own skin to have
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a two time MLS Cup winning coach
as your assistant, that says a lot
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about your confidence in your character.
And that's that's kind of who Pat Noonan
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is here, you know, and
I have to give him a lot an
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awful lot of credit. Twenty four
points already into this season, second in
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the Eastern Conference right there with New
England. It's been a it's been a
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brilliant start. And now it's intriguing
with Cincinnati because I'm eager to see what
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they do with Brenner departing this summer
and how they play with that money that
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they're bringing in from Outanza. They
still need a goal scorer and and and
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his departure is going to amplify that. And you and I talked about this
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before the Portland match, which was
you know, about a month ago,
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four weeks ago, and we talked
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They've gotten a little bit more out
of out of their offense. That
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has to continue. And you're right
to me, that's the storyline of the
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summer. What do they do to
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Yeah, it's it's it's a big
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at the way the team is set
up, like Brenner isn't exactly your you
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know, your Kai Kamara style attacking
the sixth I think I think you could
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do with another striker to play off
what Alvaro Barrial has given you. You
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know, he's been excellent on the
left hand side in this system that Pat
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Newton plays. He is your wide
guy who's going to stay wide. He's
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got a brilliant left foot, whips
in great, great balls. You know,
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the night I was on commentary in
the match against Portland, it was
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it was a sublime delivery from Barrial
for Sergio Santos, who's been a real
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bright spark since joining the club.
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too pleased and armored with Sergio Santos
in joining, but he has been a
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success story so far this season.
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that the team has out wide could
really benefit Cincinnatiause Brendon Vasque is decent at
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that, but he's not a killer
in that sense. Um even even look
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at what Kai Kamara is doing at
his later year, you know, in
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his later years that Chicago at attacking
those near post areas. That's an area
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that I feel with the with the
Cincinnati have they could really drive. Playing
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a Montreal team tonight that we're about
a third of the way through the slate.
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They've they've either won or lost every
single one of their matches. There's
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no middle ground, there's no draws. What's good what's not so good about
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the team that have seen Cincinnati plays
tonight. The thing about Montreal is nobody
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predicted they do anything this year.
They lose Mihailovich, their best creator.
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Last season, they lose their coach, Wilford Nancy, and they played such
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an identifiable form of soccer under Nancy
and they lose him. Then they start
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the season in the most horrific way. Now they've won six games on the
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beatles in all competitions for the first
time since the club joined MLS back in
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twenty twelve. So you have a
Cincinnati side tonight, and if you're if
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you're listening in your car right now
and you're debate gone to this game,
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go because Cincinnati at home have been
electric, top class. Then you've got
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a Montreal side who are coming in
flying confidence right now. They've won six
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games on the bounce, including back
to back victories against their biggest rival,
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Toronto vote in MLS play and in
Cup play. So what breaks tonight?
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This is what it comes down to
tonight. I really I'm really intrigued to
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say, to see how this game
plays out. The season because Montreal,
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while they don't light it up on
the on the paper, you look at
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their team sheet and you're like,
man, I don't know where these wins
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are coming from. Under hern and
Lasada with some of the quality that they've
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managed to recruit, like Bryce Duke, they're aside that the play attractive football
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and they'll take the game to Montreal
and they're incredibly comfortable with in their own
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game. Kevin Egan is with US
hosting MLS three sixty tonight for an Apple
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TV part of MLS Season Pass.
The production of this show is terrific.
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And you know here we're used to
the NFL Red Zone channel. You guys
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do that too, an even larger
degree because there's often more games going on.
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So I'm curious from your seat tonight
when FC Cincinnati starts, that'll be
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the first of thirteen games on the
Major League Soccer schedule, and seven of
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them are starting at seven thirty.
How on earth can you pay attention to
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all those games simultaneously. We've got
a big monitor that has nine games on
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at the same time, so it's
it's so much fun because we're watching the
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monitor and we're bouncing between games and
you get our natural reaction at times as
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well. Oh my god, top
right, top right, We've got to
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Cincinnati, you know. So it's
it's great fun and we get the viewer
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out there as quickly as possibly can. I'd like to think that the analysis
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is really good from expert like Sasha
Question and Brady Royce Phillipson. I'm alongside
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a host with tremendous experienced Leam mckw
who's been bouncing between Major League Soccer and
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the NHL playoffs with Turner, So
it's it's gonna be a lot of fun.
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There's never a dull moment. We're
on air from seven through you know,
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twelve thirty quarter to one am,
So it's it's a fun long day,
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but it's I wouldn't have it any
other way. Feel very fortunate.
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It certainly feels like a lot of
fun. Now you have a long night
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to prepare for. I appreciate your
carving at a few minutes worth. This
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afternoon, we'll be watching tonight,
man, thanks so much, my pleasure,
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mole greats chat, which is always
a good look to Cincinnati tonight.
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Get out there and go watch your
team. Good deal, good stuff.
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Kevin Egan with MLS three sixty tonight
on Apple TV, part of MLS Season
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Pass. FC Cincinnati hosting Montreal tonight. That game starts at seven thirty at
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the stadium on the West end of
Cincinnati. Of course, radio coverage starts
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at seven o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty, twenty nine minutes after three o'clock.
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My numbers five one, three,
seven, four nine, fifteen thirty,
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and you could also get in at
eight six six seven o two three seven
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seven six as well. Speaking of
television coverage, the NFL is doing something
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most of us don't like. We
are going to spend some time on matt
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in the four o'clock hour as well. If you love golf, if you
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like betting on golf. By the
way, golf is on fire right now.
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And I think a major reason why
is gambling. I you know,
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I know, you get folks that
get mad at me when I roll their
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eyes whenever I mentioned gambling stuff like
that. Golf is like just I think
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there's a lot of folks, to
a degree, myself included, who never
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really followed the PGA Tour, never
really followed the majors, maybe never followed
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liv golf, because why would you
but now they're all in, and I
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think gambling is a major reason why
are Buddy cam Rodgers will try to help
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make us some money on the PGA
Championship this weekend that is coming up in
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fifteen minutes. My name is Moe
Egger. It's three thirty on ESPN fifteen
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thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Sports updates
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chev dot Com. Getaway day for
the Reds today in Denver. They are
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playing the Rockies rubber match of the
three game set. Cincinnati leads the game
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one nothing. They're in the top
of the set, Jose Berrero with an
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RBI singles scoring Kevin Newman. Berrero
was, if I saw this correctly,
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thrown out at second trying to stretch
it into a double. I don't know
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if I saw that correctly because I
had a minor television out at ure in
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studio. But watching Luke Maley right
now, the Reds are winning one zip
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top of the second inning in Denver. Nicoladolo is dealing with a stress reaction
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in his left tibby and MRI performed
on Monday, revealed that he is going
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to be reevaluated in a couple of
weeks. He was originally shelved and put
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on the injurylist with calf issue.
They were going to shut him down for
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four weeks. That timeline seems like
it's going to remain in place. By
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the way, mainly, just hit
a double scoring Jake Frehley, so it's
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two nothing reds, two nothing good
guys in the top of the second inning
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in Denver. FC Cincinnati is home
tonight for a CF Montreal game on the
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West end of Cincinnati. Starts at
seven thirty. Coverage on ESPN fifteen thirty
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begins at seven o'clock. NBA tonight
Game one Eastern Conference Finals in Boston,
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Celtics hosting the Miami Heat, and
in the NHL it's the East Finals Game
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one between Florida and Carolina. There
you go. ESPN Radio will have coverage
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to the Eastern Conference Finals, will
pick that up as soon as the FC
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Cincinnati broadcast is done. This evening
five point three, seven, four,
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nine, fifteen thirty. Today is
excuse me, the very last day that
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you can sign up for this year's
mow. Your lawn contest. I have
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been talking about this four weeks and
I think the first day I talked about
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this contest was I think it was
the Wednesday before the draft. So it's
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been a while. And look,
I've got I've got some procrastinator and me
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I get it, Like you're telling
me I've got time to do something.
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Chances are I'm I'm gonna take it. So you know, all along you
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might have been going, okay,
while they're drawn the winner on the nineteenth,
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I got some time. Well you're
almost out. We are closing up
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the entry box today. So what
does this mean for you, Well,
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it means that if you go to
the contest page of ESPN fifteen thirty dot
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com, or if you simply search
ESPN fifteen thirty contests, or if you
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go to my social media channels,
it's very easy to find the link to
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the Moor Lawn contest. And on
Friday, we are going to announce the
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winner of a brand new lawnmower from
Backslid Tractor and concert tickets to every show
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at Riverbend this summer, which is
like twenty five shows, maybe a little
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bit more. And I'm gonna bring
all the prizes to your house, and
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yes, the tickets there as they
should be cardstock, actual like physical tickets,
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not not the there's no app you're
getting. You're getting real is like
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you're gonna have a ticket stub.
So if, like you, you go
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to a concert one of the couple
dozen that we're giving you and it's like
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your first date with somebody you end
up being with, you're gonna have that
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souvenir. You don't get that with
digital tickets. Come on, but you're
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not going to get any of the
tickets if you don't sign up. So
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again, thanks to Baxle the Tractor, thanks to Riverbend, you have today
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to sign up. Do it now, and we'll draw the winner and announce
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the name on this show Friday afternoon
at five thirty five. So if you
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hear someone else's name, well ask
yourself, did I enter? And if
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the answer is no, you have
no one to blame but yourself, well
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I can't enter, so you're not
allowed. Station employees aren't ineligible now,
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taren, if you quit right now, you will be eligible to enter since
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we're closing the box today, but
you can't. I need you to be
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here, so sorry, can't have
you quit during the show. We once
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had a producer get fired during my
show. I hope that doesn't happen to
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me. Me too. Yeah,
that was a rough day at the radio
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station, many many, many years
ago doing the show. Look up in
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the other room, there's the guy
who at the time was in charge.
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There's a new guy coming in.
Dude who started the show with me left.
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Didn't enjoy that day so much.
Enjoying today a lot more. We'll
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enjoy it even more. When Cam
Rodgers joins us to talk about wagering on
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the PGA Championship this weekend next who's
going to wear at all? Getting ESPN
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fifteen thirty from iHeartRadio. Well,
let's answer that question. It is a
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quarter to four on ESPN fifteen thirty. M Egger. The second of golf
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season's majors happened in Pittsford, New
York, just outside Rochester at o Kill
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Country Club, first time the PGA
Championship has been there since twenty thirteen.
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When golf majors show up on the
calendar, we call our guy, Cam
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Rogers. Cam is for my money. He's like our two guy. And
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the beauty of Cam is we don't
we don't pay him to be our golf
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analyst. He is with the Belief
Network. He's also the best friend of
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many Bengals fans. We're going to
ignore that instead, we're going to get
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his thoughts on the PGA Championship and
who to wager on and who to pay
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attention to this weekend. Lock It
In with Cam Rodgers is his podcast.
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He also has a Pretak Mistakes preview
as well, and obviously that is something
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of a lot of interest as we
get closer and closer to the second of
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the three Triple Crown races. But
we're here to talk golf with Cam,
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and so that's why Cam is here. What is going on, my man?
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How are you? What's going on? Mo? Always great to be
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on the airways in my favorite city
in the world. It's been at I
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was thinking about this today and maybe
you disagree. I think one of the
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best moves in all of sports over
the last four or five years has been
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moving the PGA Championship from August when
it ended up kind of being a little
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bit of an afterthought, to May, when it now eliminates the time that
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existed between the Masters and the US
Open. It is now perfectly situated.
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I love it. Yeah, absolutely, I'm all on board. Obviously,
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the meat of the golf season begins
in April with the Masters, and then
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obviously having the Players Championship in March
kind of makes that meat a little bit
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longer, so I think that helps
a lot. And then moving this on
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over to May is wonderful. You
still get a major championship in late July,
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then you have the FedEx Cup playoffs
in August. So I was a
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big proponent of this schedule change when
it happened, and so far I have
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not wavered from that position. I
think it's great. The only interesting sort
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of headline, if you will,
is that you have a Northeast major championship
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in the month of May, and
that can reap volatile conditions when it comes
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to weather, and we will get
that a little bit. Friday seventy seven
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degrees for a high, sunny Saturday, cold, damp, wet high of
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like sixty one, So should be
a wild ride this week. All right.
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Okill Country Club last hosted this event
ten years ago. Everybody that I've
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read says, forget what you knew
about the course, then it's entirely different.
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Now what's different about it? One
hundred percent. Yeah, there was
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a revamp by Andrew Green back in
twenty nineteen. What's different is we have
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less trees, wider fairways, less
water hazards. Now, that is all
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to say this should be an easy
test, right, Well, no,
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this course is very much longer now
than what it was back in twenty thirteen
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par seventy seventy four hundred yards.
That's an absolute monster. Okay, let
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me give you some context. The
Masters in nineteen eighty six when Jack won
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on that golf course was under seven
thousand yards for a par seventy two.
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So the game has absolutely changed.
But there are a lot of guys who
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really aren't that long that I think
we'll struggle here this week. Colin Morikawa,
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Jordan's speed. That puts a lot
more pressure on their longer irons to
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be precise into these greens. So
I do think that you're going to see
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a lot of the bombers do well
this week. I think a bomb and
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gouge approach may make some sense.
We saw that at the US Open at
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Winged Foot back in twenty twenty.
Went Brighton said forget about hitting fairways.
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I'm going to get this ball as
close to the green as humanly possible and
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then hack it out of the rough
and he got it done. Want a
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usil been doing that so we could
see that approach here this week. All
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Right, A lot of folks start
with the defending champion, Justin Thomas,
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who if people don't remember a year
ago, it's one of the greatest comebacks
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in golf history winning last year.
His last twelve months since then have been
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largely miserable. What's gone wrong?
Yeah, you know, his ball striking
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has not been sharp really since that
May triumph at the PGA Championship. Only
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two top ten since then, which
is bizarre to say. And he is
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making cuts, he's posting top twenty
five finishes all of this, but really
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contending. And when you haven't smelt
that late Sunday afternoon thrill if you will,
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which he really hasn't over the past
year, it's hard for you to
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really contend at a major championship all
of a sudden, right, So you
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know, I have my concerns about
him going into this week. He is
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top ten in my power rankings because
he can, of course flip a switch
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and finish inside the top ten in
any given moment, but the ball striking
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has to get better. The iron
play in particular has to get better,
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and the putter can get pretty pulled
too, so that has been plaguing him
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of late. Here in twenty twenty
three, all right, let's let's talk
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about who we're wagering on. Cam
Rodgers is with us. Follow him on
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Twitter at Cam Rogers Live, host
of Locking In with Cam Rogers. He
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is our go to guy when it
comes to golf. Where are we putting
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our money? Who do we like? I really like Xander Shoffley to win
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this tournament. I'm coming in hot
too. I picked Jason Day last week
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at the Byron Nelson. Let's let's
keep it going here, you know.
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I think it's his times and tenth
at the Master's, top five at the
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RBC Heritage, top ten at the
Wells Fargo fourth te de Green over the
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last fifty rounds, fifth and strokes
gain total at these majors over the last
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fifty rounds. And he won at
a Donald Ross design golf course called East
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Lake at the twenty seventeen Tour Championship
Ohkill, also a Donald Ross design golf
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course. So Sanders Shoffley is my
pick to win my lock of the week
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is Ricky Fowler for a top twenty, six top twenties in his past eight
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starts, seventh on tour strokes gained
approach eleventh best player in strokes game total
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in this field, and he was
tied for twenty third at the PGA last
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year. Amid serious struggles where he
had zero game whatsoever, he completely turned
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it around. Really like Ricky for
a top twenty this week plus money.
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All right, give me a long
shot, you like, Let me go
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to Justin Rose. He's particularly interesting
for a few reasons. One, he
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has a win on his resume,
by the way, he's ninety two one
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to win this week. One at
Pebble Beach earlier this year, six at
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the Players earlier this year, sixteenth
at the Masters earlier this year. And
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it seems like this calendar year has
been a theme for old grizzled veterans finding
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their game again. Jason Day,
Ricky Fowler, Justin Rose part of that
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equation as well. One of the
best Major championship golfers really over the last
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half decade. US Open champion in
his own right. So keep an eye
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on Justin Rose at ninety two one. I think that's worth a sprinkle.
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Can I run a couple of them
past you? Yes? All right?
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I like sun Jam thirteen starts five
top tens. There are certain golfers who
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maybe heading into the heart of the
summer. It just feels like it's their
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time. The value is there.
I like sun Jam. Tell me why
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shouldn't. Yeah? Sunjam has been
really a consistent player so far this year.
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To your point, seven top ten
so far this campaign. He's got
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the balance game. Petter Green fourteenth
off the t thirteenth strokes gain total tenth.
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The pause is the lack of major
championship success, and I know he's
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been on quite a run T seven
at RBC, T eight at the Wells
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Fargo, but hasn't really done a
lot at the PGA Championship as best major
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by far as the Masters. Then
after that there's a drop off. Can
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he flipped that switch? That's my
only concern with him. But it's a
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good price. Thirty three to one
is a pretty darn good price in my
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opinion for Sunjayn. I admittedly don't
pay a look of attention to the Live
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tour, but it's a Master,
it's a it's a major, and that
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means Brooks Kepka is in the field. It means I should pay close attention.
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He's going to be a popular wager. And from what I gather in
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the live event that was played most
recently, he crushed it. He had
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a very good weekend at Augusta.
There's I'm looking at like plus twenty two
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hundred, plus twenty five hundred depending
on on where what parlia like. Why
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shouldn't I bet on Brooks Kepka this
weekend? You know the proof is now
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in the pudding. We've seen the
result at the Master's Phil Brooks tied for
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second. I mean, are you
serious? That's absolutely insane. And I
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think Brooks Tepska has arrived. I
think he's back. And also they proved
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that live competition can be extrapolated to
success at a major championship. Four straight
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top eleven finishes on live. He
won the PGA at Bell Reeve in twenty
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eighteen, best Page Black in twenty
nineteen. Brooks is in my top ten
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in terms of the power rankings.
I think he's a lot for top twenty.
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Willie win this week probably not.
I think there are too many players
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playing too well for Brooks to get
past them. Xander Shotley, Tony Finel,
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Patrick Kant Lake. But I do
like Brooks for a top ten,
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top twenty something along those lines this
week. All right, one more because
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I'm looking for a long, long, long shot. I found one here,
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A plus sixteen thousand. Cameron Davis. Cameron Davis. So you know,
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when I am handicapping a major championship, I want success. I want
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major championship pedigree. And for Cam
Davis that's really just not there. He
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hasn't played in a lot of majors
to begin with, no top thirties in
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a major championship so far. Yes, he was tee six at the Players,
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but he's too volatile of a golfer
for me. Now, I will
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say this always worth a sprinkle on
a number like that, and he's a
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premier driver of the golf ball.
Driving is going to be absolutely paramount here
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this week. If you can figure
it out, get a hot putter,
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hang on with his irons. Cam
Davis could make some interesting noise here,
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especially coming off a decent finish at
the Players Championship. So worth a sprinkle?
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Is you gonna win this week?
He doesn't fit really any of my
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trends, but again, have some
fun with it. Why not? That's
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what I'm doing, all right.
You're the best as always. Man,
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I do appreciate it. Thank you
so much, Thank you, bo Take
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care. That's our guy, Cam
Rogers PGA Championship starts tomorrow. The Lock
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It In Podcast. He does a
really really good job and always nice enough
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to give us a few minutes as
the majors get closer. Speaking of golf,
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if you haven't tried or checked out
Five Iron Golf yet, this would
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be a good weekend to do so. It's open. They had their opening
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a week ago, this past Friday
against two weeks from this coming Friday.
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It's on a fifth Street in Cincinnati, right downtown, and I mean this
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is like perfect if you're looking to
kind of make a night of it downtown.
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Maybe it's a ball game this weekend. Obviously there's soccer at home this
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weekend as well, FC Cincinnati,
the Reds are playing the Yankees. And
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you're looking for something to sort of
tack onto it, might I suggest Five
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Iron Golf, Full Barn restaurant,
food is terrific, TV's all over the
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Joint, and fifteen track Man simulators. Since Five Iron Open, I have
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played Saint Andrews that didn't go great, and then Will Grimmer and I and
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I put this, I made a
post on social media. Will obviously from
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Marymont and Ohio state, qualified for
the Canadian Tour. In fact, I
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think he's he's either in route or
maybe that's next week. But he and
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I played Pebble Beach at Five Iron
Golf and he narrowly beat me, just
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by a couple of strokes. We
had an absolute blast. It's it's awesome
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for you and your buddies. It's
great if you're a hardcore golfer. It's
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it's great if you're not a hardcore
golfer. And they offer private lessons and
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clinics, and there's leagues and you
can get a membership. Here's what you
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can do. Go to five Iron
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They've got certified instructors. And again, like lots of stuff going on in
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sports, you don't want to miss
anything. There's TV's all over the place.
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I watched one of the Knicks playoff
games while playing at Five Iron,
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and well they lost that game,
so my golf games offen the blow five
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iron right Downtown check out five iron
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absolutely love it. I talked to
somebody early this week who stopped down during
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their lunch hour and they just practiced
using a track Man simulator for an hour.
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Don't have to drive out to a
range if the weather is not great,
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which we had rained this week,
and you could still get your golf
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fix in. I cannot recommend it
enough. I told you a couple of
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months ago they had I went to
one of the locations in Chicago, which
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was just terrific and so happy they've
opened one here and it's perfectly situated.
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Great place before or after a game. You have downtown dinner plans. Got
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a five iron golf again five iron
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three seven four nine, fifteen thirty
and eight six six seven two three
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seven seven six. Your phone calls
are coming up. Do we realize what
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the Bengals have in front of them? That incredible sports talk radio topic is
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coming up next on ESPN fifteen thirty. Are you ready for some football we
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are. This is Dave Lapard and
you're listening to the Home of the Bengals,
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ESPN fifteen thirty. Hey, what's
up, good Afternoonahamoegger, this is
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ESPN fifteen thirty. Thank you so
much for joining us. Red's Rug two
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zep on the Rockies, who are
wearing awesome City Connect uniforms, which they
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debuted last year. Red swear there's
on Friday, and I like them like
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not every extra uniform has to be
a vintage callback to a bygone era.
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You could do something kind of monitoring
forward and forward thinking and forward leaning,
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I guess, and I think the
Reds City Connect uniforms did that. They
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are up to nothing. Graham Ashcraft
is on the mound for Cincinnati. They're
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on the bottom of the fourth inning
on Getaway Day. Red's looking for a
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series victory over the Rocks before an
off day tomorrow and a homestand that starts
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with the Yankees on Friday night at
G A b P. I'm gonna play
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this audio for you. This is
from You're Gonna Hear Kay Adams who we
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love and Rob Gronkowski. This is
on Fan Duel TV. Joe Burrows contract
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has come up again today because he
has talked about it, and by the
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way, Jamar Chase has been asked
about it, and the reference was made
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by Joe's teammate to Joe maybe not
necessarily taking less, but understanding during the
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negotiation process that there is going to
be a need to sign other guys.
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But this conversation has gotten kind of
interesting to me for for one reason,
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and I'll give you that reason here
in just a second. But first I'm
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gonna play a part of this from
fan duel Kay Adams asking Rob Gronkowski about
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Joe Burrows impending contract extension. Not
Gronk the player, but the Gronk,
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the guy who's left the league now
understands money, understands how the business works.
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Would you advise him to sort of
do what Brady did for so many
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years of course and takes his teammates
into consideration when negotiating his contract. Yeah,
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I mean I believe that will you
know, set him up to be
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in the Super Bowl contention every single
year? And he reminded me of Brady
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when he was coming out of LSU, just the way that he sits back
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in the pocket and just reads the
offense and just delivers it flawlessly to wherever
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he needs to deliver the football.
But also with the contract, now he's
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already thinking, you know, he
wants good players around him, he wants
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good teammates around him, and that's
a great thing. I mean, what's
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the difference if you're you're a quarterback, you're in this day and era,
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and you're you're in this market and
you have a good teammates around you,
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You're you're building your legacy, You're
going to be in Super Bowl contention,
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possibly want a super Bowl, uh
you know, on your resume soon.
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And then you take a quarterback friendly
deal. I mean, what's the difference
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between forty forty seven forty eight million
or fifty three fifty four million When the
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next highest guy in your team's only
getting paid in the twenties, you're already
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that moment, there's already that big
of a difference between your pay and the
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next guy pay on your team.
So who carries? I mean, if
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you want a team around you take
tragging a couple million dollars lass, which
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is I don't know nothing in the
grand scheme for a quarterback, So I'm
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waiting for a quarterback to do that. Like kind of go down the Brady
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route, not as much as the
Brady route. I mean he was he
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was taking my half. He was
taking fifty percent discounts, which was which
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we don't even get at the Pro
Shop in New England. But Thomas we
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got thirty at the Pro Shop.
So I want to see it happen,
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but just not to that degree.
Just so just a little team we deal
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just a couple of million. I
think people are out there like no,
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because that's the thing, like get
paid, get your money. It's a
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business that use you. You're putting
your body out there, your career is
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released. Shure, you're setting yourself
up for life. Brady had Gazelle like
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that's the argument to not do it. Yeah, well, Joey B.
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It has Joey B. He's got
the whole state of Ohio. And uh,
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I'm sure if he takes a friendly
deal too, tell him to throw
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in the private plane a couple of
times, you know when he has to
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go there. That doesn't converse the
salary cap all right, Kay Adams talking
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with Rob Gronkowski, Um, I
acknowledge I live and work in Cincinnati,
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and so I hear a lot more
discourse and engage in a lot more discourse
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about the Bengals and Joe Burrow than
I do other teams and their quarterbacks.
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I read more about the Bengals than
I do any other team. I hear
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more about it. I frankly know
more about the Bengals than I do any
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other team. I acknowledge that,
But tell me if I'm wrong. Does
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it seem to you like Joe Burrows
specifically is the only quarterback we are talking
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about taking less? I haven't heard
anybody, and I'm guessing somewhere in Los
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Angeles this has come up. Where's
the question about Justin Herbert taking less?
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Jalen Hurts just signed an insane deal, by the way, signed a deal
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for what he's worth. I don't
really recall it becoming a national talking point
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that Jalen Hurts should sign something quote
team friendly. The Lamar Jackson thing was
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a national story because there was at
least the possibility that he would be traded,
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and the contract negotiations took a long
time. I haven't heard anybody on
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any major platform discuss whether or not
Lamar Jackson should take less. Now.
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Admittedly, Jamar Chase kind of stoked
this fire a little bit yesterday by mentioning
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Joe Burrows contract. But by the
way Joe Burrow yesterday spoke, he never
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said I'm taking less money than I'm
worth. He just acknowledged yeah, man,
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like I'm gonna get mine. Want
to keep the team together. Whatever
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Joe Burrow signs for, his fine, I'm if he If he does a
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deal where he's like, look,
I'll be the twentieth highest paid quarterback in
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the league. Fine, it doesn't
impact me. It is interesting to me,
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and you could tell me if you've
heard or noticed different. By the
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way, Luke Mayley just hit a
home run. It's three nothing, Cincinnati.
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You can you can tell me if
you've heard or seen different. It
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feels to me like the this quarterback
should take less, or should this quarterback
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take less? Those conversations solely revolve
around Joe Burrow. We're not doing this
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with anybody else. A couple of
things here, really quick. Whatever Joe
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signs for, he signs for.
It's not Joe Burrow's responsibility to take less
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money than he thinks he's worth.
He may he may do it willingly and
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happily, and that's fine, But
accepting what you're worth, first of all,
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it doesn't make you a bad person. Secondly, doesn't make you a
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bad employee. The onus is not
on Joe Burrow to get things figured out
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as it relates to the roster.
The onus is on Duke Tobin and the
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Brown family. By the way,
how come nobody ever says such and such
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wide receiver should take less money so
they can keep the quarterback happy. This
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is not on Joe Burrow to do
what's right. It's on Joe Burrow to
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do what he's happy with, And
it's on the Bengals to figure out common
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ground between what they're looking to do
and what Joe Burrow is also looking for.
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But in this era where we have
really devoted a lot of time to
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wondering which quarterbacks are going to sign
for what, how each contract affects the
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next one, and how each one
of these teams is now going to be
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impacted by having a quarterback making so
much more money for whatever reason, it
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feels like the guy that we're talking
about taking less is Joe Burrow in Baltimore,
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where they couldn't find weapons for Lamar
Jackson when he was cheap. To
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me, it's a bigger deal there
because you might have to overpay for receivers
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or in LA where they haven't won
anything with Justin Herbert and they've got dudes
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like Mike Williams and Keenan Allen who
are always hurt. Is maybe more on
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Justin Herbert to give a little bit
back so that franchise can find wide receivers.
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Not here again, whatever Joe's comfortable
signing for whatever, the Bengals are
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comfortable signing Joe too, whatever common
ground they mean. I'm mad man,
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dude, I just I want the
franchise quarterback and then we'll figure it out.
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And you know, I do think
it's refreshing to hear a player talk
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about, yeah, we got to
pay some other guys, and I Joe
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might end up being the highest paid
player in the league. But but I
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don't think he's gonna so drastically reset
the market that you look at the number
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and you're like, oh boy,
the onus isn't on the player. The
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onus is on the organization. By
the way, the organizations under a really
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good job of building a roster around
Joe Burrow. Yes, that is going
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to be a little bit more difficult
moving forward. And the blueprint is what
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you saw this spring with pay on
offense, draft on defense. But for
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some reason, and maybe it's because
Joe's on a good team and his team
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is won and he has good teammates, the larger onus is on the teams
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that haven't won anything. Joe hasn't
won a championship, but he's won more
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than Lamar Jackson. Joe hasn't won
a championship, but he's won more than
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Justin Herbert. And he's at least
won as much as Jalen Hurts. And
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he was taken earlier in the draft
a few years ago. Why because he's
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a better player. Why at five
point three seven four nine, fifteen thirty.
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And maybe I'm dead wrong. Maybe
there have been a thousand TV segments
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about how hurt should take less,
or Herbert should take less, or somebody
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else on the market should take less, and I haven't seen it, but
671
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it feels to me like since the
offseason started, since we really started to
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focus on this, that Joe's contract
has been a bigger talking point because of
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how he should maybe think about taking
less. I don't believe it is anybody's
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business what someone else gets when they
negotiate a contract. And yet everybody seems
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to want to stick. They're nos
in Joe's I don't see that with other
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players. And again, you're not
a bad person if you demand what you're
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worth. And the market might dictate
that Joe Burrow is worth fifty five million
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dollars a year. Okay, Well, if the Bengals are willing to pay
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him that, then awesome. And
if they're not, then they've got to
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achieve some common ground. The onus
is not on Joe Burrow. The onus
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is not on the quarterback. Nobody's
putting the onus. Nobody said Lamar.
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In fact, I read a lot
of folks who are like, yeah,
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Lamar, Jackson's in the right.
He should be holding out for what Deshaun
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Watson got. I wonder why this
is, and I don't have an answer.
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Five one, three, seven,
four, nine, fifteen thirty Preakness
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is this weekend? Who which horse
shall we wager on? Dick Girardi tells
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us next. It is twenty two
minutes after three o'clock. This is ESPN
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fifteen thirty on Moeger. Your phone
calls are coming up. For the first
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time in seventy five years. There
is only one horse from the Kentucky Derby
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Racing in the Preakness Stakes, it's
the winner of the run for the Roses
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mage looking to keep Triple Crown hopes
alive in what is a small field relative
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to what we're used to when it
comes to Triple Crown horse racing. We
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turn to one of the experts,
one of the all time grades, the
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iconic Dick Girardi, who is with
us on behalf of a bet online,
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going to bet online for the most
up to date odds and props on the
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Preakness. It is good to have
you as always, Dick, Thank you
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so much. How are you?
I've done good? No, how about
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you? I'm doing well at face
value, And this is maybe a stupid
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question. At face value, it
seems like it would be easier to handicap
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and eight horse race. Why am
I wrong? If I am now here
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not rock, it's obviously there.
You can get a better sense of how
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the race is going to be run. And the Derby is such a crazy
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race because of that gigantic field,
and you have horses in many cases that
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are running goodtindst to each other for
the first time, so it makes it
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even harder to match up. So
yes, this is much easier race to
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get a sense of how it's going
to be rotten, who's gonna win?
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All right? So oftentimes we could
look at, you know, the way
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the Derby unfolded, and maybe applied
that to how we handicapped the Preakness.
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I can only do that with one
horse, and it's the horse that won
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it. So what do we learn
about Mage two weeks ago in Louisville.
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I think we learned that he's an
extremely talented horse to be able to do
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that in his fourth lifetime start,
and it was only a second win.
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He had run well in the Fountain
of Youth behind Forte, would have been
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the Derby favorite had he not been
scratched the morning of the race, and
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then he ran a really good second
in the Florida Derby behind Fote. Again,
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the question was was it too much
too soon for Made And the answer
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was definitively no. He was terrific. Was he helped by a really hot
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pace up front? He was,
But any horse coming from the back was
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helped by that same pace, and
he was the only one that could take
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a jum win the race. All
right, So you're gonna have a lot
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of horses running that. Folks who
maybe only pay attention to the Trouble Crown
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aren't as familiar with remove made from
the equation. Talk about the other seven?
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Who do you like? I like
the one National Treasure. He's got
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a lot of things that I like
in my handicapping in general. He's got
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the inside post and a track where
the inside is generally a good place to
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be. He looks like he has
a chance to be out on the lead
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by himself. There's only one other
horse with any kind of speed Number four
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Coffee with Chris, and I just
don't think Coffee with Chris is of the
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same caliber. National Treasure comes from
California. Most recently ran fourth, beaten
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three lengths by Practical Move and the
Santen into Derby. But this is going
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to be a way different race than
that was. I think National Treasure is
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going to get things more where he's
going to be more comfortable. And he's
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trained by Bob Effort, who's going
for the all time Preakness record. He's
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already won seven, he's tied for
the record at the moment, he's trying
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to win his eighth, and obviously
he's going to be especially interested in winning
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big races because he's been out of
all the Triple Crown races for exactly two
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years. He hasn't not a horse
in a Triple Crown race since the Preakness
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of twenty twenty one, so he
is going to be very motivated. I
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think he's got a good horse,
and I'm looking at National Treasure at five
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to one. When it's when it's
an eight horse field, there aren't as
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many long shots. You talked about
Coffee with Chris. Is there's somebody lower
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on the board that maybe jumps out
to you more than the others. Yeah,
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you know, I think there's only
I think the five of the eight
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horses can win. I don't think
the two can win, Chase the Chaos.
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I don't think Coffee it's Chris can
win. I don't think for Worm
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can win. All the rest of
him. Probably Red Route one, who's
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listened to ten to one, which
in this race is going to be a
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long shot. It's not like a
Derby when you're getting thirty and forty and
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fifty to one shots. I think
would have the best chance. He looks
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like he's getting better with each race. He's by gun Runner, who's a
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sensational sire. The issue with that
horse is that there isn't going to be
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a lot of pace like it was
in Kentucky, and he comes from way
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way back, so he really could
use a hot pace in front of him.
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I just don't think he's gonna get
it. Is there is there a
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prop in an eight horse race that
maybe stands out? Yeah, I'm like
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the over under bet online of a
length and a half for the win,
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because if I'm right about National Treasure, I think he's gonna win pretty convincingly.
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And if I'm not right, you
still got a chance to win with
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Mage because if he runs back to
his dirty and nobody else does any better
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than they've ever done before, he's
going to win by a significant margin.
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The question is can he give that
same effort he gave two weeks ago?
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All right, National Treasure, That's
what I'm doing, Dick. It's awesome
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to have you man. Thank you
so much. You gotta thank you.
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See Dick Girardi, the iconic horse
racing writer bet online dot ag got a
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Man. Look, I'm I'm going
to defer to the Cincinnati Bengals regardless
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of how much money Joe Burrow pulls
in. I also feel like this is
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this, you know, we kind
of joked about this yesterday. Maybe Burrow
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signs his deal before Herbert, but
okay, Lamar signed his deal. I'm
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sorry, Jalen Hurts got his,
then Lamar got his, and then the
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next in line among others. Let's
say it's justin Herbert. The increase will
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be slightly more, the guaranteed money
will be slightly higher, and then Joe
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Burrow falls in line, and then
you know, yeah, they're gonna have
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some things to figure out. I
think what you've seen in the draft the
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last two years is illustrative of what
their plan is going to be. We
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are going to pay guys on offense. We are going to pay our absolute
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stars on offense. We're gonna be
willing to let some really good players on
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defense get away, and we're going
to prioritize that side of the ball in
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the draft. Also, not to
bring up a bad memory when they don't
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win the Super Bowl against the Rams, when they don't capitalize having the football
782
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against the Chiefs in a tie game
with two and a half minutes to go
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and timeouts in their back pocket,
and we talk about how much that stung.
784
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One of the reasons why we talked
about why that stung is those devastating
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and heartbreaking and excruciating losses occurred while
Joe was under a rookie contract. Joe
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Burrow got drafted. As much as
it might have been almost impossible for most
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of us to conceive the Bengals playing
in the Super Bowl two years ago,
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we talked about the heightened importance of
winning while he's under a rookie contract,
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how big of a deal that was. Because he was as good as advertised,
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it was going to become a little
bit more difficult, if not a
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lot more difficult, the minute he
signs a long term deal. Whatever he
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signs for, I'd defer to Joe. I'd defer to the Bengals because I
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feel like both sides deserve it.
What I find fascinating is the almost obsession
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with what Joe signs for, And
I would find it less fascinating if that
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was talked about with all these other
guys. Maybe it's because Joe already has
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good teammates with him. Well,
here's the thing about the Bengals. They've
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proven they can draft some really good
players on offense. Granted, with Jamar
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Chase, he had the luxury the
fifth overall pick. Not so much with
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T Higgins. These other franchises Ravens
have given nobody for Lamar to throw too.
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But with Joe there's like this now
that if he signs, let's say
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he signs for the most money on
an annual average basis, annual average value
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basis in the history the league,
they're gonna find folks who used that to
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characterize him as either not a good
teammate or not a good guy. What
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we need to know about the injury
issues facing TJ. Friedel and Nicolodola with
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one of the experts from Ortho since
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fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station twenty
three After twenty three away from five o'clock
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on ESPN fifteen thirty m Oegger.
Every Wednesday, we talk injuries. This
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started during the football season, we've
kept it going au throughout baseball. We
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chat with one of the experts from
Orthos since Orthos, since he has specialists
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and locations across the tri State and
they offer walk in orthopedic urgent care during
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the week from nine am to nine
pm and on Saturdays from nine am to
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one pm. Learn more at Orthoscinc
dot com. That's orthos ci NCY dot
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com. Joining us this week is
our buddy, Doctor Angel of Alaska is
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from Ortho. Since I have two
reds I want to ask you about.
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One is TJ. Friedo with his
oblique but the other let's start with Nick
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Ladolo. So we saw earlier this
week he was going to be sidelined with
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a calf issue. Now we have
seen that he underwent an MRI and they
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have determined that he is having a
he has a stress reaction in his left
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tibium and he's going to be reevaluated
in a couple of weeks. Let's start
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with that. The beginning of that
verbiage. What is a stress reaction,
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Well, you know as reaction and
the TVA means that there's some bruising into
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the bond that is caused by loading. Right, So you know these guys
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to be ready, you know,
they need to train, they need to
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run, they need to do some
weightlifting and sometimes with the with the weight
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and they pushing off. You know, on the stress and amount they can
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develop this inflammation into the bond.
Don't become a stress I bees a fraction
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in the future. So you know, the stress reaction is a bomb bruise
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right when you when you turn that
into a stress fracture, it's more like
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a like a frashure or a crack
or a break into the bond. That
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sounds like he doesn't have. So
stress reaction means an inflammation on a bruise
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into the box, all right,
a tibia. Where's the tibia? The
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TVA is one of the two bonds
that goes on the lower leg that they
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both those two bonds go into the
foot and become an ankle. Right,
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So the TVA is the bond that
that got most of the weight that is
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coming on your body. So everything
he's pushing off, especially you know left
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left handed picture left leg, he's
pushing with an angle and most of the
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way I'm going to go that agly
to that TV he's pushing off. So
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he's going to be evaluated in a
couple of weeks. When that evaluation is
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done, what sort of things are
they going to be looking for? Well,
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number one. You know, the
triment for that is you know,
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partial weight bearing astolidated. We put
on a walking booth. You may use
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crosses on occasion, depending how much
pen it is and how ear it is,
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you know, and from then he's
able to put weight, you know,
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depending how he's feeling when he doesn't
have pain. And in two ways,
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they're gonna press on it. Because
you press into the bond, you
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figure out how much pain he has, and then from there you can start
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doing some weight bearing physical activities to
progress. Obviously on a professional level.
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Sometimes you know, or most of
the time, you may get a second
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MRI to be sure how's the healing
if the timing you know, and the
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extent doesn't correlate, so you know, in two ways it's gonna be surely
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his pain is gone away, they're
gonna press on it. They're gonna make
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him start putting some weight on it, see where the pen is. Obviously
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at that level they do you know
a lot of no weight or you know,
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restrict the weight, exercise it.
They have the ultragy you know,
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running and they have the pool that
they can do exercise so they can still
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be active. Keep the cardiovascar examina, but obviously not putting weight on it.
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What is what is without the benefit
of actually doing the examination? What
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is the most likely prognosis here?
How long can we be talking about him
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being off the mount? Well,
you know a lot of time. These
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take around a couple of weeks for
that bruce to go away, depending the
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stage. Remember you know those those
a stress reactions, there's different classification.
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They can go from a little bruise
to almost a stress fraction. Right,
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So depending what is the classification,
how much bruce he has is how long
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he's gonna say? Everybody heal different. You know he's a young guy.
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Obviously you're expecting to heal quicker or
you know, as you expect. Other
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thing is there's other factors we figure
out the bottom INDs another factor that can
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increase the risk for stress reactions.
So you know, I don't know,
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you know, check bottom indeed from
pre physical and be sure. How's that
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All those kinds of things can help
to look for risk factors, right,
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and hopefully in two weeks, yeah, a lot less pain, he can
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start adding more weight bearing and obviously
start throwing the ball and then prog recipation.
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Remember you know, as it started
pitcher, a reliever pitcher that's different
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from the throwing standpoint, take a
little bit longer, just from being started
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01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:20.679
on a reliever. Doctor Angel Velasquez
from Ortho Syncias with us, let's discuss
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01:04:20.719 --> 01:04:25.119
TJ. Friedl, who's on the
injurlist right now with an oblique strain.
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So he left the game that the
Reds played last week against the Mets.
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The MRI they did revealed only minor
damage. They spent a couple of days
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trying to figure out how severe the
damage was. He did some baseball activity,
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but ultimately they put him on the
interlist. They waited a couple of
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days to put them on the IL. So give us an idea of what
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01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:47.199
they could have been looking for while
they made the determination as to what the
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01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:51.039
course of action was going to be. Well, you know, first when
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01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:55.880
you get an oblique injury at the
beginning, the symptoms may not be that
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intense. Right, you feel something, Oh I feel that, I get
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01:04:59.199 --> 01:05:01.239
a little crimp there. Obviously you
take it out the game. Uh,
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01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:04.079
you evaluate him. He feels better
the next day, and he gave a
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01:05:04.079 --> 01:05:09.079
couple of days depending you know how
many games you have on that moment,
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01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:12.719
how many people on the roster you
have, you may wait and then when
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01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:15.039
you realize, okay, you know, we gotta test. We got an
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01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:16.719
m R. We know exactly what
it is. It's gonna take him time.
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Then you retracted, go to the
you know, the injury release right,
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01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:24.079
so you if he's not playing,
he can go back retracted. So
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01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:28.039
those four days really the only thing
they didn't have an extra player to play,
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01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:30.280
right, but they managed to go
through that, and uh, and
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01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:34.159
then after you realize what it is, then you can start progressing. So
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01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:39.920
you know, oblique injuries, you
know, could be minor, could be
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01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:45.079
major. Um, you know,
hitters are forty seven percent of the oblique
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01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:47.440
injuries in major debase. You know, pictures are thirty five percent. Hitters
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are forty seven percent. So after
you realize what it is, first first
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01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:56.880
one or three days is complete arrest, right, let it rest, let
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01:05:56.880 --> 01:06:00.639
it come down, reevaluate it.
And then after that you can started getting
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01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:05.679
some kind of allie activities over the
first week and then progress slowly depending how
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01:06:05.679 --> 01:06:13.280
he feels. Are there treatment options
for something like this beyond rest, Yes,
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01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:16.719
there's a lot of different treatment options. You know, first they rehab
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01:06:16.719 --> 01:06:20.360
asked with so advanced right now that
you can do a lot of activities that
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01:06:20.440 --> 01:06:23.480
in the past we weren't able to
do. You know, we can do
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01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:27.760
some you know, pull low resists
and exercise as early as one a week
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01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:31.400
one when the pain allied allow it, and then progress to that and then
909
01:06:31.480 --> 01:06:36.519
adding high speed and more loaded into
the play by week by a ten to
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01:06:36.599 --> 01:06:41.559
fourteen days. Right, But you
can do other things dependent degree of the
911
01:06:41.599 --> 01:06:45.719
injury or Blake's injury, because the
muscle injury they should heal by itself.
912
01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:49.119
But sometimes it is a minor,
minor injury, you can do a little
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01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:53.480
bit of injection to calm down the
inflammation, like a little stereoshop, or
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01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:56.880
it's a little bit more like a
tail. You can do plate late injection
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01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:00.079
or PRP injection to help. So, yes, there is different things that
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01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:05.760
can be done depending the degree of
the severity of the injury. And sometimes
917
01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:09.039
you don't really have to do anything. You just need to you know,
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01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:12.760
I needs something that is really minor, you may let the course go and
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01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:17.639
you just progress with the exercise and
therapy to promote that fusion of healing of
920
01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:24.280
the muscle. Outstanding insight. As
always, it's always good to talk to
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01:07:24.280 --> 01:07:27.559
you. We'll do it soon,
man, Thank you so much, thank
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01:07:27.599 --> 01:07:30.880
you, thank you. You got
a doctor. Angel of Alasquez from Orthos
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01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:34.639
since Orthosinc. Dot com. I
say this every single week. The great
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01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:40.440
thing about the people that Orthos since
specialists on locations all across the Tri State.
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This includes walk in orthopedic urgent care
weekdays from nine am to nine pm
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01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:49.119
and on Saturdays from nine am to
one pm, and both Edgewood and Eastgate.
927
01:07:49.719 --> 01:07:56.079
And it goes without saying it's easier
and most definitely cheaper than going to
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01:07:56.159 --> 01:07:59.719
an ear when you have an urgent
orthopedic injury. Go to Ortho Sinc.
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Dot com. That's Orthoci NCY dot
com. It is fourteen away from five
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o'clock. Brenneman and Jones on baseball
coming up on ESPN fifteen thirty. Hey
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01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:16.720
Alexa, what's the latest on the
NBA? Getting ESPN fifteen thirty from iHeartRadio.
932
01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:24.239
You got game once to night between
the Heat and Celtics. Pretty big
933
01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:27.239
sports night. By the way,
the wheels have fallen off for the Red
934
01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:30.760
Zon Denver. They had a five
zip lead. Colorado scored five times in
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01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:35.039
the bottom of the fifth inning,
all of the runs charged to Graham Ashcraft
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01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:41.960
two legit to quit. Huh.
That's the Rockies right now. Tell you
937
01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:45.319
what you're not wrong about that they
have They tied the game with five runs
938
01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:47.600
in the fifth inning, and then
they have just scored two more in the
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01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:54.319
six to take a seven to five
lead. Lucas Simms in relief of Graham
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01:08:54.359 --> 01:08:58.800
Ashcraft. That has not gone well. Graham Ashcraft gave up five runs in
941
01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:03.199
the fifth and they brought to back
out there for the sixth inning. I
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01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:11.359
think that's reflective of bullpen quality and
bullpen usage. Brennaman and Jones on baseball.
943
01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:15.840
Next, the Schwans that brought food
to my grandmother. Hell yeah,
944
01:09:18.920 --> 01:09:24.039
listen to him talk about Schwans.
My grandma had her like food delivered by
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01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:28.920
Schwans for years, legitimately the greatest
cookies and cream ice cream of all time.
946
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:33.439
Go work for Schwans just so you
can get a discount on cookies and
947
01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:39.279
cream ice cream. I might.
I might restart Schwan's home delivery just so
948
01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:43.119
I can get a couple of gallons
of that. That sounds amazing. Good
949
01:09:43.159 --> 01:09:45.800
afternoon, I'm agger. This is
ESPN fifteen thirty. Thank you for listening.
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01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:50.920
I'm a little bit disappointed in my
producer. Taran Bland, typically does
951
01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:55.640
a very good job. And maybe
because tomorrow I'm not going to be here.
952
01:09:56.199 --> 01:10:00.600
I'm taking the day off. Tomorrow's
my daughter's sixth birthday and she is
953
01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:03.600
winding down kindergarten. So kindergarten,
it's like a half day, right,
954
01:10:03.760 --> 01:10:09.560
So we're getting off school at like
eleven thirty and we're gonna I'm gonna do,
955
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:12.159
go, do something that doesn't involve
me sitting in a studio. So
956
01:10:12.359 --> 01:10:16.479
I'm taking tomorrow off, and so
maybe there's the substitute teacher feel of tomorrow
957
01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:21.199
is already starting to creep in.
Taran Bland has put a lock and key
958
01:10:21.279 --> 01:10:25.199
on the phones. He has not
allowed me to take phone calls. He
959
01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:28.399
has not allowed me to throw out
the I've thrown out the phone number,
960
01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:30.319
and then he almost like mutes me. Five one, three, seven,
961
01:10:30.399 --> 01:10:34.359
four, nine, fifteen thirty A
billion different things on the table. There
962
01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:38.319
are a couple of things that I
need to mention here very very quickly.
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01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:42.840
The first is this, the Reds
are playing right now. Things were going
964
01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:46.279
really well. Graham Ashcraft in the
first four innings was cruising. Luke Malee
965
01:10:46.359 --> 01:10:50.079
hit a home run. Luke Malee
hit a double look Malee has been a
966
01:10:50.159 --> 01:10:54.760
pleasant surprise with the bat. Stewart
Fairschild drove in a couple of runs.
967
01:10:55.159 --> 01:10:59.159
It's five nothing midway through the game, four and a half in now you
968
01:10:59.239 --> 01:11:00.680
know, as they say, no
lead of coors Field is safe. And
969
01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:05.439
then the wheels completely fell off.
Graham Ashcraft gave up five runs in the
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01:11:05.520 --> 01:11:09.600
fifth and then was brought back out
for the sixth, where he gave up
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01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:12.560
a couple of more. Lucas Sims
came in, he was a gas can.
972
01:11:12.720 --> 01:11:15.439
He gave up four runs. It
is now eleven to five in favor
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01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:17.800
of Colorado as the Reds get set
to come to bat in the top of
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01:11:17.840 --> 01:11:23.800
the seventh inning. Of course,
it is coors Field, although it's worth
975
01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:30.279
mentioning the Rockies have scored eleven runs
through six innings and they have not hit
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01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:33.600
a home run. In fact,
they have scored eleven home runs and they
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01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:40.039
only have three extra base hits.
Tarn, here's a research project for you
978
01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:45.079
in the history of cors Field,
how many times have the Rockies scored double
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01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:48.239
digit runs without the benefit of a
home run. Now, they obviously still
980
01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:51.039
have at least two more innings to
hit so they can still hit a home
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01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:57.399
run. I'm guessing that hasn't happened
all that often. So we have that
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while we're on baseball, and I'll
I'll pull the curtain back here for a
983
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second. We're not really supposed to
do a lot of baseball because we're on
984
01:12:03.960 --> 01:12:08.560
opposite the baseball. But I mean, honestly, I don't care. Can
985
01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:14.439
I just spend sixty seconds here on
something? The Aaron Judge thing. Aaron
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01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:21.359
Judge was supposedly peeking back toward the
Yankee dugout the other night, and the
987
01:12:21.439 --> 01:12:29.640
Blue Jay's broadcast essentially accused him of
stealing signs, and the Blue Jays yesterday,
988
01:12:29.840 --> 01:12:34.760
they're in their game with the Yankees, decided to yell at the Yankees
989
01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:39.880
third base coach, because when you're
mad at six foot seven, two pound
990
01:12:39.880 --> 01:12:44.159
Aaron Judge, there's nothing you can
do about it. The Blue Jays pitcher,
991
01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:49.119
Jay Jackson is his name, by
the way, he indicated, didn't
992
01:12:49.199 --> 01:12:54.960
say, he didn't indicate. He
said he was tipping pitches. And so
993
01:12:55.159 --> 01:13:00.960
you've seen this by now, Aaron
Judge kind of glancing sideways looking in the
994
01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:10.399
dugout, trying to steal a sign
You're allowed to steal signs in baseball,
995
01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:13.359
and there's a really good chance,
if you're listening to me right now,
996
01:13:13.479 --> 01:13:17.840
you know this. Stealing signs is
allowed. It's as old as the game
997
01:13:17.880 --> 01:13:24.800
itself. You've always been allowed to
steal signs. You've always been allowed to
998
01:13:24.840 --> 01:13:30.720
do that. Now it will anger
your opponent if you do. But there
999
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:35.319
is a stark difference between something that
is illegal, like against the rules,
1000
01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:40.319
and something that's going to piss off
your opponent. Bat flips are legal,
1001
01:13:41.079 --> 01:13:44.239
of course they are. They should
be. But as much as I think
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01:13:44.279 --> 01:13:46.079
it's dumb to get mad at a
bat flip, you're allowed to flip your
1003
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bat. Your opponent is allowed to
be mad about it. Now. It's
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01:13:50.119 --> 01:13:53.800
stupid to throw a baseball at somebody
for flipping a bat, and I think
1005
01:13:53.800 --> 01:13:58.000
it's stupid to throw a baseball at
somebody for stealing signs. And you're out
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of your mind if you throw a
baseball at air and judge, because he's
1007
01:14:00.760 --> 01:14:09.239
going to destroy you. Stealing signs
is legal. The Houston Astros did not
1008
01:14:09.359 --> 01:14:13.920
get in trouble for stealing signs.
They got in trouble for using electronic methods
1009
01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:17.319
to steal signs. That is against
the rules. You're not allowed to do
1010
01:14:17.479 --> 01:14:25.119
that. You should hope the Cincinnati
Reds are teaching their players had to steal
1011
01:14:25.199 --> 01:14:31.920
signs legally. You should hope that's
happening. And it's a little bit more
1012
01:14:31.960 --> 01:14:38.479
difficult to do now because of pitch
coom and I don't know how many ketcher
1013
01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:42.960
pitcher combinations use PitchCom versus you know, dropping the fingers down. But it
1014
01:14:43.119 --> 01:14:45.119
feels like a lot more now as
opposed to early last season. It feels
1015
01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:48.600
like everybody's getting used to the technology
and how it works. And you will
1016
01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:53.000
I watch enough baseball where you will
still see ketchers drop a few fingers.
1017
01:14:53.199 --> 01:14:57.199
Tyler Stevenson had to do it in
a game earlier this year. You're allowed
1018
01:14:57.239 --> 01:15:00.079
to you you're allowed to steal a
third base coach's sign. You're allowed to
1019
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:04.880
steal a sign from You're you're allowed
defensively to steal a sign. That's never
1020
01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:13.399
been illegal. Electronic methods to steal
signs have been banned since nineteen sixty one.
1021
01:15:15.079 --> 01:15:18.039
That's not been legal in six decades. That's not new now. They
1022
01:15:18.119 --> 01:15:24.800
amended it because technology is advanced since
nineteen sixty one, But there was a
1023
01:15:24.840 --> 01:15:28.319
whole bunch of like, well,
Aaron Judge is a cheater. You cheat
1024
01:15:28.399 --> 01:15:30.159
if you break the rules. If
you if you bring sand paper out to
1025
01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:33.680
the mound, you're breaking the rule. You're not allowed to do that.
1026
01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:40.840
You're not allowed to use a foreign
substance to doctor the baseball. That's illegal.
1027
01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:47.800
You're not allowed to cork your bat. That's illegal. The starting pitcher
1028
01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:53.359
for the Yankees last night, Domingo
Herman, used a foreign substance on the
1029
01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:56.600
baseball. He was kicked out.
He broke a rule. There's nothing in
1030
01:15:56.840 --> 01:16:04.439
MLB's rules about stealing signs. There
are aren't There are rules about using technology.
1031
01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:09.319
Aaron Judge didn't cheat. He might
have done something to pissed off the
1032
01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:14.319
Blue Jays, and he'll have to
deal with the consequences for that. He
1033
01:16:14.439 --> 01:16:18.960
won't deal with any because he's six
foot seven pounds, so no one's gonna
1034
01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:23.760
step to him, no one's gonna
throw at him. If he was built
1035
01:16:23.800 --> 01:16:28.840
like Jonathan India, maybe it's a
little bit different. You could do something
1036
01:16:28.920 --> 01:16:30.199
that the other team doesn't like.
It doesn't mean you broke a rule.
1037
01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:35.600
You can't use technology, but hey, the information's out there. The other
1038
01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:41.760
team is tipping pitches or the dugout
is sharing a sign that I can decode
1039
01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:46.279
or I can blatantly get. You're
allowed to look. You are allowed hitters
1040
01:16:46.319 --> 01:16:50.319
won't do this. You are allowed
to crouch down. If the catcher's not
1041
01:16:50.479 --> 01:16:55.800
using PitchCom and he's dropping signs,
you know, in his crotch area,
1042
01:16:56.680 --> 01:17:00.319
you're allowed to bend down and blatantly
stare. Now you're probably gonna get hit
1043
01:17:01.239 --> 01:17:04.079
again. I think it's stupid to
throw a baseball at somebody because they hurt
1044
01:17:04.119 --> 01:17:08.880
your feelings, but you're probably gonna
deal with some sort of repercussion from the
1045
01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:14.159
opponent. You're allowed to do that. If the third base coach was going
1046
01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:18.000
through his signs right, you're you're
allowed to yell them out the way defensive
1047
01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:24.840
players sometimes in basketball will yell out
the opposing offensive teams set. I just
1048
01:17:25.359 --> 01:17:28.520
feel I felt like as a PSA, I would I would. I would
1049
01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:32.479
bring this up because it seems to
me like there's a lot of people who
1050
01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:38.279
don't understand this. Because it might
be frowned upon or because it might anger
1051
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:45.000
your opponent doesn't mean it's illegal.
I had something else, um related to
1052
01:17:45.119 --> 01:17:50.840
a press release that I got like
right before the show, and I maybe
1053
01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:56.079
I'll save that. Actually, no, here, I'm gonna do this really
1054
01:17:56.159 --> 01:17:58.960
quickly here, Tarn. You know, sometimes I will share with you some
1055
01:17:59.039 --> 01:18:02.119
of the press release that I get. Yes, I got one here from
1056
01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:10.640
Zach Heiling from Newman Communications. Now, the pitch here is for a book
1057
01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:15.680
author who has written a book called
Youth Contact Sports and Broken Brains, unveiling
1058
01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:20.399
the hidden impact of repetitive trauma on
young athletes. On a show like this
1059
01:18:20.600 --> 01:18:25.880
that really doesn't work. Let's be
honest, it's a little bit too heavy
1060
01:18:25.920 --> 01:18:30.720
for me. But what kind of
amused me? Was the subject line of
1061
01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:33.720
the email, Hello Mo. This
isn't the subject line, Hello Mo.
1062
01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:40.640
Explore the hidden impact of repetitive brain
trauma on young athletes with author Bruce Parkman.
1063
01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:48.920
Exclamation point. Let's we've talked a
lot today about Joe Burrows contract.
1064
01:18:49.359 --> 01:18:53.000
Rob, you're on ESPN fifteen thirty. Thanks for hanging on. How are
1065
01:18:53.039 --> 01:19:00.279
you? I'm good, Mo?
How are you not too bad? What's
1066
01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:01.079
on your mind? Do you have
to play both parts? Rob? Are
1067
01:19:01.119 --> 01:19:08.560
you there? Rob is? Rob
winked? Something bad happened to Rob?
1068
01:19:08.920 --> 01:19:15.000
Okay? Jeff, You're on ESPN
fifteen thirty. What's up? My powers
1069
01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:20.439
out, So I've been kind of
lumbering around. I forgot what adverb Austin
1070
01:19:20.520 --> 01:19:25.039
threw in front of that, but
I've just been lumbering around. I think
1071
01:19:25.079 --> 01:19:29.960
it was somewhat somewhat lumbering. Okay, okay, you got a huge kick
1072
01:19:30.039 --> 01:19:33.199
out of that. I did.
There was there was a slight inside joke
1073
01:19:33.319 --> 01:19:36.720
involved, but yes, I got
a big kick out of that. Yeah,
1074
01:19:38.119 --> 01:19:42.039
I can understand that. So,
um, I guess I got lured
1075
01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:45.520
in by the Reds minus one and
a half at plus one sixty. I
1076
01:19:45.680 --> 01:19:47.000
get that one's not gonna pay off. Well, you know what you could
1077
01:19:47.039 --> 01:19:51.119
buy it in game. I'm sure
there's lots of value. Yeah. Now,
1078
01:19:51.279 --> 01:19:55.000
did you pick the Heat minus eight
and a half or plus three hundred?
1079
01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:59.000
I couldn't decipher what you're picking.
I won plus eight h it'said eight
1080
01:19:59.039 --> 01:20:01.119
and a half. Now, the
money line's a little bit too rich for
1081
01:20:01.239 --> 01:20:05.399
me, but I like plus eight
and I think there's great value on the
1082
01:20:05.520 --> 01:20:10.319
series. I think some are I
think Boston's gonna win the series, but
1083
01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:15.239
man Spolstra gives him a coaching advantage, and Jimmy Butler is terrific. Yeah,
1084
01:20:15.359 --> 01:20:18.720
so I have a few thoughts on
Joe number one. I think Gronk
1085
01:20:18.960 --> 01:20:24.279
is factually wrong. Brady never took
a fifty percent haircut on a contract.
1086
01:20:24.840 --> 01:20:28.520
He always got a full contract.
But what he did was restructure every year,
1087
01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:31.479
which unfortunately we know the Bengals do
not do up until now, right
1088
01:20:31.840 --> 01:20:36.199
And I'm not Andre Parratta, but
my understanding is when you restructure, you
1089
01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:41.600
just convert salary to signing bonus or
something like that. And I don't think
1090
01:20:41.720 --> 01:20:45.279
I don't think Brady ever gave up
a dollar of what he signed for on
1091
01:20:45.399 --> 01:20:49.000
a contract. By the way,
Tom Brady just signed prior to last season
1092
01:20:49.119 --> 01:20:54.119
when he retired the first time,
a three hundred and sixty five million dollar
1093
01:20:54.279 --> 01:20:59.840
contract with Fox. Now, the
media landscape is not great right now,
1094
01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:01.960
I'll just call it what it is. You got media companies laying off people
1095
01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:05.800
left and right. Shouldn't there be
more pressure on Tom Brady to not sign
1096
01:21:05.880 --> 01:21:11.159
for as much when he's never broadcast
a game before with Fox so some of
1097
01:21:11.199 --> 01:21:14.880
the employees at Fox can keep their
jobs. Isn't that a bigger deal than
1098
01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:18.159
Joe Burrows signing for less with the
Bengals. How about the fact he's taking
1099
01:21:18.159 --> 01:21:20.520
a year off on the first year
of the deal, right, yes,
1100
01:21:20.800 --> 01:21:25.680
so like everybody loves Tom Tom Brady
did well. Cool, Yeah, he's
1101
01:21:26.239 --> 01:21:29.720
so. Some of his football teammates
can make more money. He got production
1102
01:21:29.800 --> 01:21:32.520
assistance and folks behind the scenes losing
their gigs at Fox. I think Tom
1103
01:21:32.560 --> 01:21:36.479
Brady should give some of the money
back. Well. And on the Joe
1104
01:21:36.600 --> 01:21:41.119
side of the deal, you know, he graduated undergrad in three years,
1105
01:21:41.359 --> 01:21:44.840
got a master's degree. He in
turn at Goldman Sacks. For God's sakes,
1106
01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:47.119
he knows finance, he knows money, he knows what he's worth.
1107
01:21:47.560 --> 01:21:51.680
And I would bet it's not a
reach to think that he knows the salary
1108
01:21:51.720 --> 01:21:56.239
cap almost as well as his agent, and almost as well as Duke does,
1109
01:21:56.680 --> 01:22:00.920
not one hundred percent proficient like they
are. And this thing about well,
1110
01:22:00.920 --> 01:22:02.800
if you just take forty eight million
instead of fifty million, it's no
1111
01:22:02.920 --> 01:22:06.159
big deal. I'm like, you've
been on this forever. Why would anybody
1112
01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:10.359
take less money than what they think
of that yours? And if they want
1113
01:22:10.399 --> 01:22:14.520
to, that's fine. Nobody should
feel compelled to. And it just it
1114
01:22:14.680 --> 01:22:17.880
feels to me. And look,
I don't live in Baltimore, I don't
1115
01:22:17.880 --> 01:22:20.520
live in Philadelphia, I don't live
in southern California. I don't live in
1116
01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:25.079
any other market, but it feels
to me like there is a hyper focus.
1117
01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:28.880
I didn't see it because I was
about to come back on the air,
1118
01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:30.399
but I saw on the pat MC
if you showed today a segment about
1119
01:22:30.479 --> 01:22:34.520
Joe Burrow maybe taking less like it
feels like this is a Joe Burrow talking
1120
01:22:34.600 --> 01:22:38.079
point, but it's not a talking
point for any of these other guys.
1121
01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:41.279
And by the way, some of
these quarterbacks haven't won as much as Joe
1122
01:22:41.319 --> 01:22:44.640
Burrow. Some of these quarterbacks aren't
playing for organizations that are as good as
1123
01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:46.840
the one that Joe Burrow plays for. Right now. Yeah, and Rich
1124
01:22:46.920 --> 01:22:50.720
Eisen had a good clip on it
yesterday. I just you know, and
1125
01:22:51.960 --> 01:22:56.800
I love the Bengals media corps.
Like Katie has said, we're not going
1126
01:22:56.840 --> 01:22:59.680
to talk about it, and Joe
said yesterday we're not going to talk about
1127
01:22:59.680 --> 01:23:01.640
it. There should be a dead
issue now until the press conference comes up
1128
01:23:01.680 --> 01:23:04.600
that says to decide. Yeah,
I mean, at this stage, if
1129
01:23:04.960 --> 01:23:09.640
Joe is asked about this when he
talks again in July and the deal is
1130
01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:13.199
still not done, the answers are
probably not going to change. And that's
1131
01:23:13.399 --> 01:23:15.600
as a fan, that's exactly what
you want. You got to ask the
1132
01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:18.439
question. It is a topic until
it's not. But neither side is going
1133
01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:21.239
to tip their hands. Neither side
is going to make the negotiation the public
1134
01:23:21.319 --> 01:23:25.640
one. And look, the Bengals
have a long history of if you want
1135
01:23:25.680 --> 01:23:30.199
to negotiate publicly, go for it. We're not going to participate. Yeah,
1136
01:23:30.279 --> 01:23:32.199
And I think you know the other
last point. The other two factors
1137
01:23:32.239 --> 01:23:35.800
of play are. Number one,
the Watson contract was an outlier. Nobody's
1138
01:23:35.800 --> 01:23:40.279
going to get one hundred percent guaranteed
ever. Again, and Lamar didn't have
1139
01:23:40.359 --> 01:23:44.800
an agent, and if he saved
three to five percent into his own pocket,
1140
01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:48.720
good for him that the NFLPA was
completely one hundred percent behind him trying
1141
01:23:48.720 --> 01:23:53.920
to get one hundred percent guaranteed.
Sorry, guys, that's just not happening
1142
01:23:53.960 --> 01:23:57.600
anymore, not at all. No, Jeff, Jeff, thanks so much.
1143
01:23:57.720 --> 01:24:01.840
I just whatever whatever Joe signs for, he signs for. And I
1144
01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:06.880
believe Joe and his agent and the
Bengals will get creative enough that the new
1145
01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:13.760
deal, whatever the structure of it
is, isn't a complete obstacle to keeping
1146
01:24:13.800 --> 01:24:15.920
the team good, keeping the team
relevant. But I mean the onus is
1147
01:24:15.960 --> 01:24:19.760
on the front office. The onus
isn't on Joe Burrow. The onus is
1148
01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:25.960
not on the employee. Again,
my life ain't going to be impacted whether
1149
01:24:26.039 --> 01:24:29.239
or not Joe Burrow signs for forty
six million year or fifty four million year,
1150
01:24:29.319 --> 01:24:33.960
somewhere in between, or somewhere much
much higher. But a whole lot
1151
01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:36.920
of folks who seem to be willing
to tell Joe Burrow what he should take
1152
01:24:36.960 --> 01:24:42.119
and what he shouldn't take. And
nobody's business man. And you know to
1153
01:24:42.199 --> 01:24:45.359
me, they know you want to
talk about Tom Brady, This team friendly
1154
01:24:45.479 --> 01:24:48.039
guy. Okay, team friendly guy. You got people in media getting whacked
1155
01:24:48.119 --> 01:24:54.039
left and right. Why not shaved
two hundred mill off what he's due when
1156
01:24:54.039 --> 01:24:58.359
he's already made a bunch and throw
that into the pool to keep some employees
1157
01:25:00.760 --> 01:25:04.279
that should be talked about more than
what Joe Burrow's gonna get. Twenty two,
1158
01:25:04.520 --> 01:25:08.960
twenty one, after five o'clock five
on three seven four nine, fifteen
1159
01:25:09.039 --> 01:25:13.319
thirty and eight six six seven O
two three seven seven six. This is
1160
01:25:13.560 --> 01:25:17.159
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
It is twenty five minutes after five o'clock.
1161
01:25:17.359 --> 01:25:21.640
This is ESPN fifteen thirty. My
name is Maegger. Thank you so
1162
01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:28.239
much for joining us. This is
the Neutral Happy Hour. By the way,
1163
01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:32.079
dude, look at it outside.
The last couple of days weren't great.
1164
01:25:32.079 --> 01:25:35.600
Today has been just magnificent. One
of those days, Tarn should have
1165
01:25:35.640 --> 01:25:40.600
set us up with a chance to
do the show from outside. But I
1166
01:25:40.680 --> 01:25:44.000
don't know. I mean, you're
you're getting off work, Go go outside,
1167
01:25:44.680 --> 01:25:46.239
get a Neutral, find a place
where you could, you know,
1168
01:25:46.399 --> 01:25:50.680
have a have a drink outside and
order a Neutral. Or if you're on
1169
01:25:50.760 --> 01:25:56.239
your way home, stop by your
favorite convenience store, grocery store, liquor
1170
01:25:56.319 --> 01:26:00.800
store, gas station, pony keg, drive through, wherever you buy liquid
1171
01:26:00.840 --> 01:26:04.199
refreshment. Pick up a Neutral.
By the way, now an orange flavor
1172
01:26:05.079 --> 01:26:11.479
perfect for summertime. It's the one
with the umlaut Neutral vodka Seltzer, the
1173
01:26:11.760 --> 01:26:16.000
very best vodka Seltzer I have ever
had. Neutral. You will love it.
1174
01:26:17.439 --> 01:26:23.439
Twenty seven after five o'clock, Rads
are losing the eleven to five in
1175
01:26:23.560 --> 01:26:27.199
the bottom I'm Tom sorry. Top
of the eighth inning, Cincinnati is batting.
1176
01:26:27.399 --> 01:26:29.479
Luke Manley's had a good game with
a homer and a devil. He's
1177
01:26:29.520 --> 01:26:34.159
at the plate with two guys on
and two outs, so Red's with an
1178
01:26:34.239 --> 01:26:39.199
uphill battle and trying to avoid losing
a series in Denver before they come home
1179
01:26:39.279 --> 01:26:43.880
to play the non cheater Aaron Judge
and the New York Yankees this weekend and
1180
01:26:44.159 --> 01:26:50.520
my expectation. I've heard they're expecting
terrific crowds to GABP this weekend. I
1181
01:26:50.640 --> 01:26:56.800
was thinking about this today talking with
Paul Danner Jr. And Jay Morrison for
1182
01:26:56.880 --> 01:27:01.600
their podcast which they recorded today.
They usually have me on every single week.
1183
01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:09.840
I'm not really sure why, but
we went through the over unders in
1184
01:27:09.960 --> 01:27:13.520
the AFC North, which at most
books, Bengals are at eleven and a
1185
01:27:13.560 --> 01:27:15.279
half, Baltimore is at nine and
a half, Pittsburgh's at eight and a
1186
01:27:15.319 --> 01:27:19.920
half, Cleveland's at nine and a
half, and we guessed over under.
1187
01:27:20.039 --> 01:27:25.119
But we also ranked from one to
four which ones we were most confident in
1188
01:27:25.239 --> 01:27:29.840
and least confident in. And I
will let you listen to their podcast to
1189
01:27:29.960 --> 01:27:33.199
get the full details. But we
started talking about the quality of the AFC
1190
01:27:33.359 --> 01:27:39.720
North and you know, here really
is the interesting part of the Bengal season.
1191
01:27:39.840 --> 01:27:45.520
The expectations this year, for my
money are higher than last year because
1192
01:27:45.720 --> 01:27:51.439
last seasons as much as a lot
of us. I certainly did through cold
1193
01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:56.640
water all over the idea that the
Bengals the previous year had been flukey.
1194
01:27:57.399 --> 01:28:00.199
There was the element of, god, you know what, can they do
1195
01:28:00.319 --> 01:28:04.279
it again? And they didn't,
They didn't get back to the super Bowl.
1196
01:28:04.399 --> 01:28:15.760
But there was not a skepticism but
a sense of I'm not sure I'm
1197
01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:18.560
quite yet ready to count on this
team, because yes they had a great
1198
01:28:18.680 --> 01:28:21.520
year, and yes they had a
great run, but are they really there
1199
01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:26.880
yet? Are they can they really? Can they really get better than they
1200
01:28:26.920 --> 01:28:30.279
were last year? Which they did? Can? Can they can? They?
1201
01:28:30.520 --> 01:28:32.119
Can they really? You know?
What if what if there are injuries?
1202
01:28:32.159 --> 01:28:35.600
What if they're not quite as fortunate
as they were in the postseason last
1203
01:28:35.680 --> 01:28:39.840
year? Were they flew? Key? That that those elements were there and
1204
01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:44.279
some overstated those elements. But those
elements were there. This year, they're
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none of that. They're they'n't established
good NFL team back to back AFC Championship
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game appearances and the core of that
team is still there, even though there
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have been some departures this year.
The expectations when you go to back to
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back AFC Championship games, when you
lose the Super Bowl and the AFC Championship
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Game in consecutive years in heartbreaking fashion, that the only thing that makes it.
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The only thing you can do now
is win the title. Right.
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That doesn't necessarily mean that if the
Bengals got to the Super Bowl and loss
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that it would be a failure of
a season. But I do think going
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01:29:16.680 --> 01:29:24.079
into this season there's more of a
super Bowl or bust feel then has ever
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01:29:24.159 --> 01:29:29.119
been the case in the history of
this franchise. And I do think,
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01:29:29.239 --> 01:29:32.720
by the way, that if the
Bengals come close and fail again that the
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01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:38.079
reaction is going to be a little
bit different than it was each of the
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last two years. The money that
Burrow is going to be making moving forward
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01:29:44.039 --> 01:29:46.960
will we'll hang over all of this. The expectations, though, are massive,
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01:29:47.840 --> 01:29:51.159
and by the way, that's great, man. I don't want to
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01:29:51.239 --> 01:29:54.319
root for off the radar teams.
I want to be on the radar.
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01:29:54.319 --> 01:29:56.680
I want to matter, I want
to be relevant. I want the expectations
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01:29:56.760 --> 01:29:59.840
to be huge. By the way
that the regular season expectations for me are,
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01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:04.479
Tiger, because you know, I
have very very most of us,
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01:30:04.880 --> 01:30:09.399
I think you'd say the same thing. It's been very infrequent that we have
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01:30:09.439 --> 01:30:13.000
talked about the Bengals in terms beyond
winning the division or making the postseason.
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Now it's dude, get the one
seed. Man be the highest seed he
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01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:18.800
can possibly be. Play as many
home games as you possibly can, ideally
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01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:26.439
miss that first weekend. At the
same time, look at the Gauntlet.
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01:30:26.600 --> 01:30:30.239
And I'm not just talking about the
schedule. If the Bengals get back to
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01:30:30.319 --> 01:30:33.399
the super Bowl this year, think
about what they will have survived. Think
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01:30:33.439 --> 01:30:36.840
about what they will have beaten.
First of all, they're in a division
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01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:43.079
right now that has two Super Bowl
coaches. Every coach in the AFC North
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01:30:43.119 --> 01:30:45.800
has won a playoff game, Every
team in the NFL today, every team
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01:30:45.840 --> 01:30:50.640
in the AFC North today and this
division today knows who their quarterback is going
1235
01:30:50.680 --> 01:30:54.600
to be and has a pretty good
sense of who their quarterback is going to
1236
01:30:54.640 --> 01:30:58.000
be moving forward. Lamar is the
guy in Baltimore. Deshaun Watson's the guy
1237
01:30:58.159 --> 01:31:01.800
in Cleveland. I don't know if
will say the same thing about Kenny Pickett
1238
01:31:01.800 --> 01:31:04.680
in Pittsburgh, but I think they
feel pretty good about him, and deservedly
1239
01:31:04.760 --> 01:31:13.159
so. So you have quarterback stability, you have coaches with track records,
1240
01:31:13.520 --> 01:31:17.159
you have a former MVP in Baltimore. You have an MVP favorite in Cincinnati.
1241
01:31:18.479 --> 01:31:21.760
You have I don't think any of
these teams have had bad off seasons.
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01:31:23.600 --> 01:31:27.720
Now I'm not a big believer in
the Ravens offensively, but none of
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01:31:27.800 --> 01:31:30.359
them have bad, bad off seasons. You might say, well, look,
1244
01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:34.039
the Browns win the offseason every single
year, but their team is not
1245
01:31:34.199 --> 01:31:36.720
worse than it was last year.
And by the way, last year's team
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01:31:36.760 --> 01:31:42.520
won seven games and beat pretty badly
the Bengals head to head with a backup
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01:31:42.640 --> 01:31:47.039
quarterback. Pittsburgh's had a good off
season. The Ravens aren't worse. From
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01:31:47.079 --> 01:31:53.880
a roster perspective, you will have
potentially survived this hilacious division. People should
1249
01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:57.439
talk about the AFC North this year
the way a lot of us talked about
1250
01:31:57.479 --> 01:32:00.199
the AFC West before the season last
year. So you get through that,
1251
01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:06.159
then you're in this golden age of
quarterbacks in the AFC that includes a two
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01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:11.560
time MVP Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, a future Hall of Famer, the
1253
01:32:11.640 --> 01:32:16.439
two time MVP obviously being Patrick Mahomes, justin Herbert Trevor Lawrence. That's just
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01:32:16.680 --> 01:32:27.319
this half of the league. For
expectations to be met or exceeded what the
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01:32:27.479 --> 01:32:33.319
Bengals will have accomplished would be remarkable. And you know what, I think
1256
01:32:33.359 --> 01:32:39.319
it can happen, just like you
could throw all that out there. How
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01:32:39.439 --> 01:32:45.119
tough the division is, the just
insanely competitive nature of the AFC, all
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01:32:45.159 --> 01:32:47.760
the great quarterbacks, you know,
I mean, would you expect Denver to
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01:32:47.840 --> 01:32:51.279
be better this year with Sean Payton? Yeah? I mean I think so.
1260
01:32:54.039 --> 01:32:57.479
We did this last year and talked
about the AFC. You can do
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01:32:57.560 --> 01:33:01.560
it to an even larger degree now. So yeah, man, the expectations
1262
01:33:01.760 --> 01:33:06.319
are massive, and that is awesome. That is a credit to what the
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01:33:06.359 --> 01:33:14.000
Bengals have done. But you'll have
to at least acknowledge that the field and
1264
01:33:14.199 --> 01:33:21.600
what they have in front of them, the degree of difficulty is insane.
1265
01:33:25.680 --> 01:33:28.520
And yet if you're like me,
you probably still like their chances. Twenty
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01:33:28.600 --> 01:33:34.079
six away from six o'clock, Kevin
Egan from Apple TV's MLS coverage on tonight's
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01:33:34.119 --> 01:33:40.600
big FC Cincinnati tilt coming up in
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chev dot Com Rockies lead the Reds
eleven to five. In the top of
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the ninth inning. Graham Ashcraft had
a five nothing lead, then gave up
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01:33:58.319 --> 01:34:01.680
seven runs. Lucas Simms then aim
and gave up four. Colorado scored eleven
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01:34:01.760 --> 01:34:05.039
times without the benefit of a Homer. Luke Mailey did hit his second dong
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01:34:05.159 --> 01:34:11.479
for Cincinnati. Why don't we call
him dongs? I like dings, dingers,
1275
01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:14.960
dingers like it? Why some I
just did it? Why? How
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01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:19.560
come some refer to Homer's as dongs? When did that start? Tarn I
1277
01:34:19.640 --> 01:34:23.359
need you to do that investigatory working. Get back to me on Friday,
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01:34:24.520 --> 01:34:31.359
Google dongs. Maybe not the working, don't Maybe just don't do that and
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01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:36.159
just ask ask a Siri or somebody. Why do they call Homer's dons?
1280
01:34:38.119 --> 01:34:43.359
I asked the Aidea the chat GP
that thing. Yeah, Nicolodolo Um,
1281
01:34:43.720 --> 01:34:45.760
he is dealing with a stress reaction
in his left tibia. He is going
1282
01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:50.560
to be reevaluated in a couple of
weeks. That malady was revealed on an
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01:34:50.720 --> 01:34:57.199
MRI on Monday, FC Cincinnati Tonight
hosting CF Montreal. Game starts at seven
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01:34:57.319 --> 01:35:00.399
thirty. Coverage from the stadium on
the West end of Cincinnati was starting at
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01:35:00.680 --> 01:35:05.479
seven o'clock in the Cincinnati Bengals today
announced the dates, the dates and times
1286
01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:11.800
for their twenty twenty three preseason games. They will start the preseason on Friday
1287
01:35:11.880 --> 01:35:16.680
night, August the eleventh, with
a home tilt against the Green Bay Packers.
1288
01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:21.600
I had this in front of me
and I have lost it. I
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01:35:21.960 --> 01:35:27.319
could not be more disorganized today and
I don't know why, but I did
1290
01:35:27.479 --> 01:35:30.279
memorize ere. It is Bengals twenty
twenty three preseason schedule. Write these down.
1291
01:35:30.399 --> 01:35:35.479
Bengals Packers Friday night, August eleventh, Bengals at Atlanta Friday night,
1292
01:35:35.520 --> 01:35:44.319
August eighteenth, and Bengals at Commanders
on Saturday afternoon, August the twenty sixth.
1293
01:35:44.800 --> 01:35:45.960
None of those, by the way, if you care, are nationally
1294
01:35:46.079 --> 01:35:51.439
televised games. Uh. Let's see
what else. Oh, speaking of the
1295
01:35:51.560 --> 01:35:57.359
NFL, that's subject of our poll
question today. Service of backslet Tractor in
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Batavia and seamen at a backslattractor dot
com. The NFL is reportedly set to
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put up twenty twenty three playoff game
on Peacock. Now this is worth mentioning.
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01:36:11.479 --> 01:36:17.239
It's going to be, according to
Sports Business Journal, the Saturday night
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01:36:17.359 --> 01:36:20.279
playoff game. So the last couple
of years there have been two games on
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01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:26.239
Saturday, three on Sunday, one
on Money Wildcard weekend. That Saturday night
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01:36:26.279 --> 01:36:30.479
game is reportedly set to be aired
on Peacock, which is a streaming service.
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01:36:30.600 --> 01:36:32.800
Now, let's say, for instance, the Bengals are in that game.
1303
01:36:33.520 --> 01:36:36.680
Locally, the game would air on
over the air television channel five,
1304
01:36:38.359 --> 01:36:42.920
the NBC affiliate. So that's the
good news. And maybe you already subscribe
1305
01:36:42.960 --> 01:36:47.920
to Peacock. I don't, and
frankly have no interest. Like I just
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01:36:48.079 --> 01:36:51.800
there's a point. I subscribe to
a lot of stuff. I'm good man.
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01:36:53.319 --> 01:36:56.079
And if that means I miss another
The Reds are on eleven thirty on
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01:36:56.159 --> 01:36:58.960
Sunday morning. If I miss Sunday
morning baseball, I miss Sunday morning.
1309
01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:02.159
I just there's lots of other streaming
services that I likes, some of which
1310
01:37:02.199 --> 01:37:05.840
my daughter likes, some of which
my wife. I just enough enough,
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01:37:06.960 --> 01:37:13.079
So I want to know, because
the NFL and the folks at peacock or
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01:37:13.199 --> 01:37:17.880
are betting on this, will you
subscribe to a streaming service that you don't
1313
01:37:17.920 --> 01:37:23.000
already subscribe to? And again,
you might already subscribe to Peacock. Would
1314
01:37:23.039 --> 01:37:27.239
you subscribe to a streaming service you
don't already subscribe to just to watch an
1315
01:37:27.399 --> 01:37:32.479
NFL playoff game? Vote now at
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talk about tonight's FC Cincinnati Tilts with
Kevin Egan from Apple. Next, Hey,
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01:38:00.800 --> 01:38:06.239
Alexa, what's going on in baseball? Get well thirty from iHeartRadio.
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The Red's loss to the Rockies had
just ended eleven to six. They loaded
1324
01:38:12.199 --> 01:38:15.079
the basses, They scored a run
and loaded the basses with one out in
1325
01:38:15.159 --> 01:38:18.319
the ninth inning, and then Will
Myers popped out and Jose Berrero made the
1326
01:38:18.399 --> 01:38:24.439
last out Resolue seven six. They
have won. They have won one series
1327
01:38:24.479 --> 01:38:27.960
in Denver since twenty twelve. They
were up five nothing in this game heading
1328
01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:32.119
to the bottom of the fifth inning. Also, Adrian Woznarowski reports that Kelvin
1329
01:38:32.159 --> 01:38:35.840
Sampson, Houston's coach, is interviewing
to be the Bucks head coach. I'm
1330
01:38:35.920 --> 01:38:41.520
rooting for that to happen. I'm
rooting for FC Cincinnati tonight, Kevin Ken
1331
01:38:41.600 --> 01:38:46.039
Even Kevin Egan from an Apple TV
is hosting MLS three sixty tonight. He
1332
01:38:46.159 --> 01:38:49.680
is in the studio called the match
that I've seen Cincinnati played at home against
1333
01:38:49.720 --> 01:38:56.920
Portland back on April to twenty.
How did you like that experience? I
1334
01:38:57.119 --> 01:38:59.560
sound like I'm just saying this to
you because I'm on the radio with you,
1335
01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:01.680
but it's my favorite place. It's
my favorite place to go in Major
1336
01:39:01.800 --> 01:39:06.439
League soccer. Yeah, it is
because the fans bring it. I mean,
1337
01:39:06.640 --> 01:39:11.359
you're talking about six straight home winds
now on the bounce, but it's
1338
01:39:11.399 --> 01:39:15.680
also six straight sellouts. You know, I think one of them was technically
1339
01:39:15.840 --> 01:39:18.359
not a sellout. It was still
well over twenty five thousand. And you're
1340
01:39:18.399 --> 01:39:24.880
talking about like raucous electric fans in
the bailey and the march to the stadium,
1341
01:39:25.199 --> 01:39:28.600
the fact that the pitch is so
good you can see the city from
1342
01:39:28.640 --> 01:39:33.359
the broadcast booth as a as a
broadcaster, the booth is perfect and everybody
1343
01:39:33.399 --> 01:39:38.119
there so friendly. So I love
going to Cincinnati. It's my favorite stadium
1344
01:39:38.159 --> 01:39:40.880
to go to. And then when
the team can perform the way they're doing,
1345
01:39:41.279 --> 01:39:45.119
with the fun type of soccer that
they're playing under pat Noonan, it's
1346
01:39:45.199 --> 01:39:46.640
it's a real joy, honestly.
You know, again, I say I
1347
01:39:46.720 --> 01:39:49.479
sound like I'm saying this because I'm
on the radio with you in Cincinnati,
1348
01:39:49.600 --> 01:39:53.560
but it's it's what I've been saying
to all my broadcast colleagues around the league.
1349
01:39:53.760 --> 01:39:57.079
It doesn't at all sound patronizing.
And and it's interesting because I hear
1350
01:39:57.079 --> 01:40:00.039
a lot of folks in your capacity
say the same thing. And I and
1351
01:40:00.159 --> 01:40:03.800
when this club was introduced in twenty
sixteen in the United Soccer League at a
1352
01:40:03.880 --> 01:40:09.439
different venue, you know, people
gravitated toward it and the atmosphere was incredible.
1353
01:40:09.720 --> 01:40:12.880
And then they get the stadium built
and the stadium is terrific, and
1354
01:40:13.159 --> 01:40:15.079
then I'm thinking, Okay, well
this is all well and good. At
1355
01:40:15.159 --> 01:40:18.319
some point, you know, that
has to take a back seat to what
1356
01:40:18.479 --> 01:40:21.960
is actually happening on the field.
And now maybe that's not the case,
1357
01:40:23.000 --> 01:40:28.159
because you're getting this perfect marriage of
great venue, enthusiastic fans and one of
1358
01:40:28.199 --> 01:40:31.039
the best teams in the league,
and that is absolutely perfect. Yeah,
1359
01:40:31.039 --> 01:40:33.279
and I think I think a lot
of credit has to go to ownership for
1360
01:40:33.600 --> 01:40:40.039
the realization that the way the team
started was pretty horrific with you know,
1361
01:40:40.159 --> 01:40:43.239
obviously, the points totals are well
documented, back to back to back last
1362
01:40:43.279 --> 01:40:46.640
place finishes, but the recognition then
of Okay, how do Philadelphia do it,
1363
01:40:46.720 --> 01:40:49.960
what sort of success that they had
and why, and then the recruitment
1364
01:40:50.039 --> 01:40:55.359
of the gentlemen that are in charge
now, you know, like all Bryce
1365
01:40:55.920 --> 01:40:59.000
with the technical side of things,
and then noon and as the head coach,
1366
01:40:59.079 --> 01:41:03.079
Pat Nowton's assist since are all really
experienced guys like Tom Keineer. I
1367
01:41:03.159 --> 01:41:05.119
think I said this to you before, Moo. You know, if you're
1368
01:41:05.119 --> 01:41:09.880
a young coach forty two years of
age like Pat Noonan and you're comfortable enough
1369
01:41:09.880 --> 01:41:13.359
with in your own skin to have
a two time MLS Cup winning coach as
1370
01:41:13.399 --> 01:41:16.239
your assistance, that says a lot
about your confidence in your character. And
1371
01:41:16.439 --> 01:41:19.199
that's that's kind of who Pat Noonan
is here, you know, and I
1372
01:41:19.279 --> 01:41:21.520
have to give him a lot An
awful lot of credit. Twenty four points
1373
01:41:23.039 --> 01:41:28.000
already into this season, second in
the Eastern Conference right there with New England.
1374
01:41:28.560 --> 01:41:30.520
It's been a it's been a brilliant
start. And now it's intriguing with
1375
01:41:30.640 --> 01:41:35.199
Cincinnati because I'm eager to see what
they do with Brenner departing this summer and
1376
01:41:35.399 --> 01:41:39.000
how they play with that money that
they're bringing in from out an Aza.
1377
01:41:40.279 --> 01:41:44.119
They still need a goal scorer and
and and his departure is going to amplify
1378
01:41:44.279 --> 01:41:46.439
that. And you and I talked
about this before the Portland match, which
1379
01:41:46.600 --> 01:41:49.479
was you know, about a month
ago, four weeks ago, and we
1380
01:41:49.600 --> 01:41:54.159
talked about their ability to win low
goal games. They've gotten a little bit
1381
01:41:54.279 --> 01:41:59.439
more out of out of their offense. That has to continue. And you're
1382
01:41:59.560 --> 01:42:01.359
right to me, that's the storyline
of the summer. What do they do
1383
01:42:01.479 --> 01:42:06.920
to booster goal scoring once once Brenner's
gone. Yeah, it's it's it's a
1384
01:42:08.000 --> 01:42:10.760
big story. You know. I
think looking at the way the team is
1385
01:42:10.800 --> 01:42:15.520
set up, like Brenner isn't exactly
your you know, your Kai Kamara style
1386
01:42:16.319 --> 01:42:20.119
attacking the sixth I think I think
you could do with another striker to play
1387
01:42:20.159 --> 01:42:24.560
off what Alvaro Barrial has given you. You know, he's been excellent on
1388
01:42:24.600 --> 01:42:27.920
the left hand side in this system
that Pat Newton plays. He is your
1389
01:42:28.079 --> 01:42:30.960
wide guy who's going to stay wide. He's got a brilliant left foot,
1390
01:42:30.159 --> 01:42:32.359
whips in great, great balls.
You know, the night I was on
1391
01:42:32.720 --> 01:42:38.000
commentary in the match against Portland,
it was it was a sublime delivery from
1392
01:42:38.079 --> 01:42:41.439
Barrial for Sergio Santos, who's been
a real bright spark since joining the club.
1393
01:42:41.520 --> 01:42:45.000
And I think a lot of fans
weren't too pleased and armored with Sergio
1394
01:42:45.079 --> 01:42:48.439
Santos in joining, but he has
been a success story so far this season,
1395
01:42:49.319 --> 01:42:53.560
and I think playing playing off the
strength that the team has out wide
1396
01:42:53.880 --> 01:42:58.039
could really benefit Cincinnatise. Brendon Basque
is decent at that, but he's not
1397
01:42:58.239 --> 01:43:01.479
a killer in that sense. Un
even look at what Kai Kamara is doing
1398
01:43:01.840 --> 01:43:04.560
at his later year, you know, in his later years at Chicago at
1399
01:43:04.560 --> 01:43:08.840
attacking those near post areas. That's
an area that I feel with the with
1400
01:43:08.960 --> 01:43:13.319
the Cincinnati have they could really drive. Playing a Montreal team tonight that we're
1401
01:43:13.319 --> 01:43:16.119
about a third of the way through
the slate. They've they've either won or
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lost every single one of their matches, there's no middle ground, there's no
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draws. What's good what's not so
good about the team that have seen Cincinnati
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plays tonight. The thing about Montreal
is nobody predicted they do anything this year.
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They lose Mihailovich, their best creator. Last season, they lose their
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coach, Wilford Nancy, and they
played such an identifiable form of soccer under
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Nanci and they lose him. Then
they start the season in the most horrific
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way. Now they've won six games
on the belts in all competitions for the
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first time since the club joined MLS
back in twenty twelve. So you have
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a Cincinnati side tonight, And if
you're if you're listening in your car right
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now and you're debate gone to this
game, go because Cincinnati at home have
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an electric top class. Then you've
got a Montreal side who are coming in
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flying with confidence. Right now.
They've won six games on the bounce,
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including back to back victories against their
biggest rival, Toronto vote in MLS play
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and in Cup play. So what
breaks tonight? This is what it comes
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down to tonight. I really,
I'm really intrigued to say, to see
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how this game plays out. The
CV because Montreal, while they don't light
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it up on the paper, you
look at their team sheet and you're like,
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man, I don't know where these
wins are coming from. Under Hernan
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Lasada, with some of the quality
that they've managed to recruit, like Bryce
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Duke, they're aside that the play
attracted football and they'll take the game to
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Montreal and they're incredibly comfortable with in
their own skin. Kevin Egan is with
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us hosting MLS three sixty tonight for
an Apple TV part of MLS Season Pass.
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I know you have a long night
to prepare for. I appreciate you
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Carving had a few minutes worth of
this afternoon. We'll be watching tonight,
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man, Thanks so much, my
pleasure, great chat, which is always
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and good luck to Cincinnati tonight.
Get out there and go watch your team.
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Apple TV's Kevin Egan. Of course, the match tonight on ESP fifteen
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thirty, with our coverage starting from
the West end of Cincinnati at seven o'clock.
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I am pretty much done. I
am off tomorrow celebrating my daughter's sixth
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birthday. James Rapine will be filling
in. I am back on Friday afternoon.
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Thank you so much for listening.
Thanks to Tarn Bland for producing.
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This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports
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It is guard Us outside. Hopefully
you have had a terrific Wednesday so far.
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I'll be honest with you, it
sort of feels like Friday to me
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because I'm off tomorrow, and so
you'll just have to deal with that.
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I guess loaded show today. Lot's
happening. Red's applying the Rockies this afternoon,
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with that as the afternoon unfolds.
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Red's looking for a second consecutive win
and a series victory, coming home to
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play the Yankees this weekend, and
so a lot happening with the Reds.
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Brandon Williamson was terrific last night,
and we are going to spend some time
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on that here at the top of
the show we have with us in about
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fifteen minutes, Kevin Egan from Apple
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tonight and the Orange and Blue FC
Cincinnati is in action this evening on ESPN
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fifteen thirty, getting set to take
on Montreal, and so we'll talk about
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that game and the team with Kevin
coming up at about fifteen minutes. I
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do want to spend a few minutes
on the difference between cheating and doing something
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about betting the PGA Championship this weekend with
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our guy Cam Rogers coming up at
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Reds did win last night. Brandon
Williamson as Big League debuts Go was just
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terrific in Colorado at coors Field against
the same Rockies team that kind of lit
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up Hunter Green the night before.
For what it's worth, trying to break
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a two game losing skid, frankly, isn't worth all that much. You
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couldn't have drawn it up any better. He was in control, he worked
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from ahead. If you watch that
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Williamson, you would not arrive at
the conclusion that that was a guy making
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his major league debut last night.
And Nick Ladolo is in the news today
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because the injury that was being called
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stress reaction in his left tibia.
He is in a walking boot, and
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he's going to be reevaluated in a
couple of weeks, and so who knows,
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you know when we're going to see
him again. But as as you
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watched Brandon Williamson last night, or
as you listened to his start in Denver,
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and he was terrific five and two
thirds, gave up just two hits,
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walked a couple of the guys,
struck out six, surrender the home
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run of the sixth. Thenning left
a guy on basse before he was pulled
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in favor of Derek Law and by
the way, terrific bullpen night last night
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as well, small margin for air, tough ballpark to pitch, and Derek
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Law, alex Young, Ian Jabbow
and Alexis Diez were each spectacular. But
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as you watch Brandon Williamson last night, if you're like me and God knows,
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for the most part, I hope
you're not. While there are things
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that have to get sorted out with
this rotation. That goes without saying.
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Hunter Green has to be more reliable. Nicolodolo has to be healthy, and
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when he's healthy, he has to
be better than he was before he suffered
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the injury. Andrew has to get
here and has to be as good as
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advertised. Brandon Williamson has to be
as good as he looked last night as
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well. There are a lot of
teams in baseball who would love to be
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able to say, in two years, have a pretty good idea of what
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our rotation is going to look like. Now injury can have a lot to
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say about this. Hell. At
some point, maybe the Reds trade one
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of these starting pitchers because they they
need to go and get somebody to fill
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another need. Who knows, but
in two years it is plausible that the
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starting rotation will be Hunter Green,
Graham Ashcraft, Nicolodola, Brandon Williamson,
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and Andrew Abbott. Now I'll say
this about Brandon Williamson, a little bit
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of a rough road to finally getting
to Cincinnati after they acquired him for the
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Mariners last year, and his Louisville
numbers were not great, although he was
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fine in his last two starts before
the promotion. And Andrew Abbott hasn't yet
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own a pitch at the big league
level. But you look around this sport
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a whole lot of teams that,
first of all, would love to be
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able to say in two years,
here's who we hope is in our starting
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rotation. Here are the exact five
guys, and they're also among those group
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of teams. Pretty much all of
them would love to be able to say,
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and our five guys are going to
be these five dudes in particular.
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Again, nothing is guaranteed, and
none of these guys are finished products.
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I think I've used the term finished
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week. But boy, there's there's
a lot of clubs in baseball right now
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who and maybe it's not that big
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contention today. But ask them who's
going to be in your rotation two years
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from now? It's gonna be a
whole lot of general managers who give you
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a blank stare, huh, who
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ahead, or we're not prepared to
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that's that's a nice place to be
if you're Nick Krawl. It's a really
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nice place to be if you're a
Reds fan. And of those who can
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say with some amount of certainty,
this is who we at least would like
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to be in our starting rotation two
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gems would like to say? Hunter
Green, Nick Nickoladolo, Graham Ashcraft,
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Andrew Abbott and Brandon Williamson like those
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years from now will either be in
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Not a retread in the fet in
the in the mix. Now that
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that doesn't mean the Reds aren't going
to value a veteran pitcher, who can,
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you know, provide what veteran pitchers
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not going to be setbacks. That's
not to say that one of these guys
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ultimately isn't going to be destined for
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one of these guys could, you
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But boy, right now, if
you're Nick Krawl, I think you have
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to feel pretty good. In two
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Look around the sport. How many
gms can say, with any amount
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of certainty, in two years we
know who our five guys are going to
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be. How many of those gms
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gonna be five guys with the upside
of each of those individuals. The answer
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really is not that many. Twelve
minutes after three o'clock, our numbers are
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A five point three seven four nine
fifteen thirty and eight six six seven O
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two three seven seven six. Matt
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get a big hit last night.
Nick Senzel hit a two run shot which
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gave the Reds lead. I you
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rooted for Nick Senzel because he plays
for the Reds and if he plays well,
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the Reds have a better chance of
winning. But and I've had no
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real attachment to the guy. Uh
No, you know special reason for rooting
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for him, But I admit to
over the last year or so growing I
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don't want to say fond of him
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bigger fan than I think I ever
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I don't know specifically what it is. I think more than anything, I
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just I like rooting for people to
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others have prematurely counted them out.
Now, with Nick senzel Man, is
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he going to be here in two
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not sure he's going to be here
in a couple of months. If he
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ends up continuing to produce, and
most importantly with Nick, he's got to
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stay healthy. He was the NL
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ago, then he went through a
little bit of a lull last night a
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big home run, had a big
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base five times, including three walks. I just I don't know where he's
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gonna end up. Maybe the Reds
end up having so much of a log
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jam that a guy like is sent
somewhere else. Maybe they have found his
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home at third base. I don't
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Well, there's two things. First
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us who will take a player's injury
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assassinate the player's character. That is
one of the things I despise most in
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sports. Number two, there's a
lot of folks, and perhaps with some
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justification, who have kind of just
dismissed the idea of Nick Senzel being a
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part of this team moving forward,
and part of that is on his injury
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history. I like rooting for people
who I feel like have been prematurely counted
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out. And again, you know, there's there's probably a guy who's on
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the team right now who it appears
they have years of team control that ultimately
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gets traded away, and maybe that
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that guy's going to be Jonathan India, and you can find a lot of
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people who are starting to believe exactly
that. But in the short term,
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watching Nick Senzel have success and watching
his success matter helping the team win,
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for me at least, is something
I really enjoy. You're welcome to chime
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in on that as well. Um
FC Cincinnati plays tonight, first of consecutive
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home games tonight against Montreal Saturday against
Columbus. Kevin Egan is hosting MLSC three.
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I was gonna say since three sixty
is hosting MLS three sixty tonight on
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Apple. He had the FC Cincinnati
Tilts against Portland a few weeks ago,
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was nice enough to come on our
show. Then he is going to join
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our show next on ESPN fifteen thirty
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thirty on Moeger, thank you so much
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for joining us. FC Cincinnati is
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The hell is Real rivalry game on
Saturday is going to be an absolute blast
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with the Columbus crew in town.
But first things first, FCC versus CF
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Montreal. That game starts at seven
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coverage is MLS three sixty, which
is a terrific whip around the entire league.
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Tonight. It's going to be hosted
by Kevin Egan, We had Kevin
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on the show just about a month
ago. He called the FC Cincinnati match
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against Portland play by play guy,
studio host for MLS Season Pass on Apple
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TV, and they do a terrific
job covering the league. Kevin nice enough
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to give us a few minutes.
It is good to have you back with
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us. Kevin, How are you
no brilliant tanks? Are you keeping yourself
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doing terrific? I want to go
back before we look ahead to tonight,
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your experience calling the FC Cincinnati tilt
here a few weeks ago. How was
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it? I sound like I'm just
saying this to you because I'm on the
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radio with you, But it's my
favorite place. It's my favorite place to
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go in Major League soccer. Yeah, it is because the fans bring it.
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I mean, you're talking about six
straight home wings now on the bounce,
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but it's also six straight sellouts.
Um, you know, I think
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one of them was technically not a
sellout. It was still well over twenty
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five thousand though. And you're talking
about like raucous electric fans in the bailey
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and the march to the stadium,
the fact that the pitch is so good
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you can see the city from the
broadcast booth as a as a broadcaster,
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the booth is perfect and everybody they're
so friendly. So I love going to
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Cincinnati. It's my favorite stadium to
go to. And then when the team
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can perform the way they're doing,
with the fun type of soccer that they're
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playing under Pat Noonan, it's it's
a real joy, honestly. You know,
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again, I say I sound like
I'm saying this because I'm on the
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radio with you in Cincinnati, but
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my broadcast colleagues around the league.
It doesn't at all sound patronizing. And
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and it's interesting because I hear a
lot of folks in your capacity say the
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same thing. And I when when
this club was introduced in twenty sixteen in
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the United Soccer League at a different
venue, you know, people gravitated toward
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it and the atmosphere was incredible.
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the stadium is terrific, and then
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all well and good. At some
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take a back seat to what is
actually happening on the field. And now
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maybe that's not the case. Because
you're getting this perfect marriage of great venue,
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enthusiastic fans and one of the best
teams in the league, and that
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is absolutely perfect. Yeah, and
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has to go to ownership for the
realization that the way the team started was
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pretty horrific with you know, obviously, the points totals are well documented,
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back to back to back last place
finishes, but the recognition then of Okay,
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how do Philadelphia do it? What
sort of success that they had at
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why? And then the recruitment of
of the the gentlemen that are in charge
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now, you know, like all
Bright with the technical side of things,
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and then noon and as the head
coach, Pat Newton's assistants are are all
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really experienced guys like Tom Kineer.
I think I said this to you before,
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Moo. You know, if you're
a young coach forty two years of
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age like Pat Noonan and you're comfortable
enough with in your own skin to have
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a two time MLS Cup winning coach
as your assistant, that says a lot
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about your confidence in your character.
And that's that's kind of who Pat Noonan
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is here, you know, and
I have to give him a lot an
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awful lot of credit. Twenty four
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the Eastern Conference right there with New
England. It's been a it's been a
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brilliant start. And now it's intriguing
with Cincinnati because I'm eager to see what
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they do with Brenner departing this summer
and how they play with that money that
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they're bringing in from Outanza. They
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his departure is going to amplify that. And you and I talked about this
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before the Portland match, which was
you know, about a month ago,
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four weeks ago, and we talked
about their ability to win low goal games.
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They've gotten a little bit more out
of out of their offense. That
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has to continue. And you're right
to me, that's the storyline of the
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summer. What do they do to
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Yeah, it's it's it's a big
story. You know. I think looking
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at the way the team is set
up, like Brenner isn't exactly your you
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know, your Kai Kamara style attacking
the sixth I think I think you could
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do with another striker to play off
what Alvaro Barrial has given you. You
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know, he's been excellent on the
left hand side in this system that Pat
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Newton plays. He is your wide
guy who's going to stay wide. He's
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got a brilliant left foot, whips
in great, great balls. You know,
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the night I was on commentary in
the match against Portland, it was
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it was a sublime delivery from Barrial
for Sergio Santos, who's been a real
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bright spark since joining the club.
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too pleased and armored with Sergio Santos
in joining, but he has been a
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success story so far this season.
And I think playing playing off the strength
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that the team has out wide could
really benefit Cincinnatiause Brendon Vasque is decent at
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that, but he's not a killer
in that sense. Um even even look
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at what Kai Kamara is doing at
his later year, you know, in
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his later years that Chicago at attacking
those near post areas. That's an area
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that I feel with the with the
Cincinnati have they could really drive. Playing
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a Montreal team tonight that we're about
a third of the way through the slate.
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They've they've either won or lost every
single one of their matches. There's
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no middle ground, there's no draws. What's good what's not so good about
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the team that have seen Cincinnati plays
tonight. The thing about Montreal is nobody
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predicted they do anything this year.
They lose Mihailovich, their best creator.
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Last season, they lose their coach, Wilford Nancy, and they played such
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an identifiable form of soccer under Nancy
and they lose him. Then they start
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the season in the most horrific way. Now they've won six games on the
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beatles in all competitions for the first
time since the club joined MLS back in
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twenty twelve. So you have a
Cincinnati side tonight, and if you're if
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you're listening in your car right now
and you're debate gone to this game,
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go because Cincinnati at home have been
electric, top class. Then you've got
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a Montreal side who are coming in
flying confidence right now. They've won six
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games on the bounce, including back
to back victories against their biggest rival,
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Toronto vote in MLS play and in
Cup play. So what breaks tonight?
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This is what it comes down to
tonight. I really I'm really intrigued to
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say, to see how this game
plays out. The season because Montreal,
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while they don't light it up on
the on the paper, you look at
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their team sheet and you're like,
man, I don't know where these wins
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are coming from. Under hern and
Lasada with some of the quality that they've
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managed to recruit, like Bryce Duke, they're aside that the play attractive football
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and they'll take the game to Montreal
and they're incredibly comfortable with in their own
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game. Kevin Egan is with US
hosting MLS three sixty tonight for an Apple
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TV part of MLS Season Pass.
The production of this show is terrific.
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And you know here we're used to
the NFL Red Zone channel. You guys
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do that too, an even larger
degree because there's often more games going on.
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So I'm curious from your seat tonight
when FC Cincinnati starts, that'll be
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the first of thirteen games on the
Major League Soccer schedule, and seven of
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them are starting at seven thirty.
How on earth can you pay attention to
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all those games simultaneously. We've got
a big monitor that has nine games on
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at the same time, so it's
it's so much fun because we're watching the
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monitor and we're bouncing between games and
you get our natural reaction at times as
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well. Oh my god, top
right, top right, We've got to
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Cincinnati, you know. So it's
it's great fun and we get the viewer
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out there as quickly as possibly can. I'd like to think that the analysis
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is really good from expert like Sasha
Question and Brady Royce Phillipson. I'm alongside
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a host with tremendous experienced Leam mckw
who's been bouncing between Major League Soccer and
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the NHL playoffs with Turner, So
it's it's gonna be a lot of fun.
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There's never a dull moment. We're
on air from seven through you know,
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twelve thirty quarter to one am,
So it's it's a fun long day,
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but it's I wouldn't have it any
other way. Feel very fortunate.
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It certainly feels like a lot of
fun. Now you have a long night
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to prepare for. I appreciate your
carving at a few minutes worth. This
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afternoon, we'll be watching tonight,
man, thanks so much, my pleasure,
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mole greats chat, which is always
a good look to Cincinnati tonight.
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Get out there and go watch your
team. Good deal, good stuff.
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Kevin Egan with MLS three sixty tonight
on Apple TV, part of MLS Season
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Pass. FC Cincinnati hosting Montreal tonight. That game starts at seven thirty at
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the stadium on the West end of
Cincinnati. Of course, radio coverage starts
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at seven o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty, twenty nine minutes after three o'clock.
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My numbers five one, three,
seven, four nine, fifteen thirty,
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and you could also get in at
eight six six seven o two three seven
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seven six as well. Speaking of
television coverage, the NFL is doing something
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most of us don't like. We
are going to spend some time on matt
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in the four o'clock hour as well. If you love golf, if you
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like betting on golf. By the
way, golf is on fire right now.
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And I think a major reason why
is gambling. I you know,
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I know, you get folks that
get mad at me when I roll their
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eyes whenever I mentioned gambling stuff like
that. Golf is like just I think
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there's a lot of folks, to
a degree, myself included, who never
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really followed the PGA Tour, never
really followed the majors, maybe never followed
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liv golf, because why would you
but now they're all in, and I
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think gambling is a major reason why
are Buddy cam Rodgers will try to help
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make us some money on the PGA
Championship this weekend that is coming up in
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fifteen minutes. My name is Moe
Egger. It's three thirty on ESPN fifteen
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chev dot Com. Getaway day for
the Reds today in Denver. They are
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playing the Rockies rubber match of the
three game set. Cincinnati leads the game
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one nothing. They're in the top
of the set, Jose Berrero with an
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RBI singles scoring Kevin Newman. Berrero
was, if I saw this correctly,
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thrown out at second trying to stretch
it into a double. I don't know
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if I saw that correctly because I
had a minor television out at ure in
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studio. But watching Luke Maley right
now, the Reds are winning one zip
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top of the second inning in Denver. Nicoladolo is dealing with a stress reaction
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in his left tibby and MRI performed
on Monday, revealed that he is going
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to be reevaluated in a couple of
weeks. He was originally shelved and put
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on the injurylist with calf issue.
They were going to shut him down for
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four weeks. That timeline seems like
it's going to remain in place. By
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the way, mainly, just hit
a double scoring Jake Frehley, so it's
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two nothing reds, two nothing good
guys in the top of the second inning
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in Denver. FC Cincinnati is home
tonight for a CF Montreal game on the
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West end of Cincinnati. Starts at
seven thirty. Coverage on ESPN fifteen thirty
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begins at seven o'clock. NBA tonight
Game one Eastern Conference Finals in Boston,
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Celtics hosting the Miami Heat, and
in the NHL it's the East Finals Game
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one between Florida and Carolina. There
you go. ESPN Radio will have coverage
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to the Eastern Conference Finals, will
pick that up as soon as the FC
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Cincinnati broadcast is done. This evening
five point three, seven, four,
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nine, fifteen thirty. Today is
excuse me, the very last day that
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you can sign up for this year's
mow. Your lawn contest. I have
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been talking about this four weeks and
I think the first day I talked about
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this contest was I think it was
the Wednesday before the draft. So it's
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been a while. And look,
I've got I've got some procrastinator and me
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I get it, Like you're telling
me I've got time to do something.
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Chances are I'm I'm gonna take it. So you know, all along you
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might have been going, okay,
while they're drawn the winner on the nineteenth,
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I got some time. Well you're
almost out. We are closing up
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the entry box today. So what
does this mean for you, Well,
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it means that if you go to
the contest page of ESPN fifteen thirty dot
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com, or if you simply search
ESPN fifteen thirty contests, or if you
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go to my social media channels,
it's very easy to find the link to
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the Moor Lawn contest. And on
Friday, we are going to announce the
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winner of a brand new lawnmower from
Backslid Tractor and concert tickets to every show
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at Riverbend this summer, which is
like twenty five shows, maybe a little
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bit more. And I'm gonna bring
all the prizes to your house, and
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yes, the tickets there as they
should be cardstock, actual like physical tickets,
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not not the there's no app you're
getting. You're getting real is like
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you're gonna have a ticket stub.
So if, like you, you go
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to a concert one of the couple
dozen that we're giving you and it's like
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your first date with somebody you end
up being with, you're gonna have that
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souvenir. You don't get that with
digital tickets. Come on, but you're
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not going to get any of the
tickets if you don't sign up. So
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again, thanks to Baxle the Tractor, thanks to Riverbend, you have today
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to sign up. Do it now, and we'll draw the winner and announce
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the name on this show Friday afternoon
at five thirty five. So if you
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hear someone else's name, well ask
yourself, did I enter? And if
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the answer is no, you have
no one to blame but yourself, well
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I can't enter, so you're not
allowed. Station employees aren't ineligible now,
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taren, if you quit right now, you will be eligible to enter since
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we're closing the box today, but
you can't. I need you to be
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here, so sorry, can't have
you quit during the show. We once
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had a producer get fired during my
show. I hope that doesn't happen to
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me. Me too. Yeah,
that was a rough day at the radio
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station, many many, many years
ago doing the show. Look up in
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the other room, there's the guy
who at the time was in charge.
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There's a new guy coming in.
Dude who started the show with me left.
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Didn't enjoy that day so much.
Enjoying today a lot more. We'll
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enjoy it even more. When Cam
Rodgers joins us to talk about wagering on
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the PGA Championship this weekend next who's
going to wear at all? Getting ESPN
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fifteen thirty from iHeartRadio. Well,
let's answer that question. It is a
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quarter to four on ESPN fifteen thirty. M Egger. The second of golf
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season's majors happened in Pittsford, New
York, just outside Rochester at o Kill
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Country Club, first time the PGA
Championship has been there since twenty thirteen.
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When golf majors show up on the
calendar, we call our guy, Cam
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Rogers. Cam is for my money. He's like our two guy. And
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the beauty of Cam is we don't
we don't pay him to be our golf
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analyst. He is with the Belief
Network. He's also the best friend of
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many Bengals fans. We're going to
ignore that instead, we're going to get
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his thoughts on the PGA Championship and
who to wager on and who to pay
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attention to this weekend. Lock It
In with Cam Rodgers is his podcast.
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He also has a Pretak Mistakes preview
as well, and obviously that is something
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of a lot of interest as we
get closer and closer to the second of
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the three Triple Crown races. But
we're here to talk golf with Cam,
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and so that's why Cam is here. What is going on, my man?
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How are you? What's going on? Mo? Always great to be
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on the airways in my favorite city
in the world. It's been at I
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was thinking about this today and maybe
you disagree. I think one of the
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best moves in all of sports over
the last four or five years has been
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moving the PGA Championship from August when
it ended up kind of being a little
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bit of an afterthought, to May, when it now eliminates the time that
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existed between the Masters and the US
Open. It is now perfectly situated.
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I love it. Yeah, absolutely, I'm all on board. Obviously,
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the meat of the golf season begins
in April with the Masters, and then
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obviously having the Players Championship in March
kind of makes that meat a little bit
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longer, so I think that helps
a lot. And then moving this on
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over to May is wonderful. You
still get a major championship in late July,
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then you have the FedEx Cup playoffs
in August. So I was a
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big proponent of this schedule change when
it happened, and so far I have
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not wavered from that position. I
think it's great. The only interesting sort
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of headline, if you will,
is that you have a Northeast major championship
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in the month of May, and
that can reap volatile conditions when it comes
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to weather, and we will get
that a little bit. Friday seventy seven
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degrees for a high, sunny Saturday, cold, damp, wet high of
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like sixty one, So should be
a wild ride this week. All right.
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Okill Country Club last hosted this event
ten years ago. Everybody that I've
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read says, forget what you knew
about the course, then it's entirely different.
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Now what's different about it? One
hundred percent. Yeah, there was
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a revamp by Andrew Green back in
twenty nineteen. What's different is we have
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less trees, wider fairways, less
water hazards. Now, that is all
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to say this should be an easy
test, right, Well, no,
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this course is very much longer now
than what it was back in twenty thirteen
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par seventy seventy four hundred yards.
That's an absolute monster. Okay, let
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me give you some context. The
Masters in nineteen eighty six when Jack won
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on that golf course was under seven
thousand yards for a par seventy two.
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So the game has absolutely changed.
But there are a lot of guys who
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really aren't that long that I think
we'll struggle here this week. Colin Morikawa,
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Jordan's speed. That puts a lot
more pressure on their longer irons to
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be precise into these greens. So
I do think that you're going to see
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a lot of the bombers do well
this week. I think a bomb and
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gouge approach may make some sense.
We saw that at the US Open at
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Winged Foot back in twenty twenty.
Went Brighton said forget about hitting fairways.
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I'm going to get this ball as
close to the green as humanly possible and
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then hack it out of the rough
and he got it done. Want a
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usil been doing that so we could
see that approach here this week. All
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Right, A lot of folks start
with the defending champion, Justin Thomas,
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who if people don't remember a year
ago, it's one of the greatest comebacks
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in golf history winning last year.
His last twelve months since then have been
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largely miserable. What's gone wrong?
Yeah, you know, his ball striking
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has not been sharp really since that
May triumph at the PGA Championship. Only
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two top ten since then, which
is bizarre to say. And he is
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making cuts, he's posting top twenty
five finishes all of this, but really
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contending. And when you haven't smelt
that late Sunday afternoon thrill if you will,
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which he really hasn't over the past
year, it's hard for you to
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really contend at a major championship all
of a sudden, right, So you
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know, I have my concerns about
him going into this week. He is
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top ten in my power rankings because
he can, of course flip a switch
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and finish inside the top ten in
any given moment, but the ball striking
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has to get better. The iron
play in particular has to get better,
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and the putter can get pretty pulled
too, so that has been plaguing him
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of late. Here in twenty twenty
three, all right, let's let's talk
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about who we're wagering on. Cam
Rodgers is with us. Follow him on
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Twitter at Cam Rogers Live, host
of Locking In with Cam Rogers. He
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is our go to guy when it
comes to golf. Where are we putting
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our money? Who do we like? I really like Xander Shoffley to win
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this tournament. I'm coming in hot
too. I picked Jason Day last week
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at the Byron Nelson. Let's let's
keep it going here, you know.
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I think it's his times and tenth
at the Master's, top five at the
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RBC Heritage, top ten at the
Wells Fargo fourth te de Green over the
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last fifty rounds, fifth and strokes
gain total at these majors over the last
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fifty rounds. And he won at
a Donald Ross design golf course called East
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Lake at the twenty seventeen Tour Championship
Ohkill, also a Donald Ross design golf
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course. So Sanders Shoffley is my
pick to win my lock of the week
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is Ricky Fowler for a top twenty, six top twenties in his past eight
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starts, seventh on tour strokes gained
approach eleventh best player in strokes game total
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in this field, and he was
tied for twenty third at the PGA last
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year. Amid serious struggles where he
had zero game whatsoever, he completely turned
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it around. Really like Ricky for
a top twenty this week plus money.
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All right, give me a long
shot, you like, Let me go
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to Justin Rose. He's particularly interesting
for a few reasons. One, he
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has a win on his resume,
by the way, he's ninety two one
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to win this week. One at
Pebble Beach earlier this year, six at
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the Players earlier this year, sixteenth
at the Masters earlier this year. And
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it seems like this calendar year has
been a theme for old grizzled veterans finding
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their game again. Jason Day,
Ricky Fowler, Justin Rose part of that
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equation as well. One of the
best Major championship golfers really over the last
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half decade. US Open champion in
his own right. So keep an eye
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on Justin Rose at ninety two one. I think that's worth a sprinkle.
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Can I run a couple of them
past you? Yes? All right?
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I like sun Jam thirteen starts five
top tens. There are certain golfers who
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maybe heading into the heart of the
summer. It just feels like it's their
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time. The value is there.
I like sun Jam. Tell me why
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shouldn't. Yeah? Sunjam has been
really a consistent player so far this year.
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To your point, seven top ten
so far this campaign. He's got
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the balance game. Petter Green fourteenth
off the t thirteenth strokes gain total tenth.
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The pause is the lack of major
championship success, and I know he's
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been on quite a run T seven
at RBC, T eight at the Wells
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Fargo, but hasn't really done a
lot at the PGA Championship as best major
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by far as the Masters. Then
after that there's a drop off. Can
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he flipped that switch? That's my
only concern with him. But it's a
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good price. Thirty three to one
is a pretty darn good price in my
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opinion for Sunjayn. I admittedly don't
pay a look of attention to the Live
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tour, but it's a Master,
it's a it's a major, and that
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means Brooks Kepka is in the field. It means I should pay close attention.
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He's going to be a popular wager. And from what I gather in
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the live event that was played most
recently, he crushed it. He had
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a very good weekend at Augusta.
There's I'm looking at like plus twenty two
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hundred, plus twenty five hundred depending
on on where what parlia like. Why
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shouldn't I bet on Brooks Kepka this
weekend? You know the proof is now
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in the pudding. We've seen the
result at the Master's Phil Brooks tied for
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second. I mean, are you
serious? That's absolutely insane. And I
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think Brooks Tepska has arrived. I
think he's back. And also they proved
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that live competition can be extrapolated to
success at a major championship. Four straight
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top eleven finishes on live. He
won the PGA at Bell Reeve in twenty
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eighteen, best Page Black in twenty
nineteen. Brooks is in my top ten
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in terms of the power rankings.
I think he's a lot for top twenty.
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Willie win this week probably not.
I think there are too many players
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playing too well for Brooks to get
past them. Xander Shotley, Tony Finel,
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Patrick Kant Lake. But I do
like Brooks for a top ten,
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top twenty something along those lines this
week. All right, one more because
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I'm looking for a long, long, long shot. I found one here,
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A plus sixteen thousand. Cameron Davis. Cameron Davis. So you know,
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when I am handicapping a major championship, I want success. I want
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major championship pedigree. And for Cam
Davis that's really just not there. He
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hasn't played in a lot of majors
to begin with, no top thirties in
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a major championship so far. Yes, he was tee six at the Players,
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but he's too volatile of a golfer
for me. Now, I will
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say this always worth a sprinkle on
a number like that, and he's a
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premier driver of the golf ball.
Driving is going to be absolutely paramount here
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this week. If you can figure
it out, get a hot putter,
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hang on with his irons. Cam
Davis could make some interesting noise here,
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especially coming off a decent finish at
the Players Championship. So worth a sprinkle?
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Is you gonna win this week?
He doesn't fit really any of my
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trends, but again, have some
fun with it. Why not? That's
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what I'm doing, all right.
You're the best as always. Man,
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I do appreciate it. Thank you
so much, Thank you, bo Take
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care. That's our guy, Cam
Rogers PGA Championship starts tomorrow. The Lock
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It In Podcast. He does a
really really good job and always nice enough
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to give us a few minutes as
the majors get closer. Speaking of golf,
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if you haven't tried or checked out
Five Iron Golf yet, this would
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be a good weekend to do so. It's open. They had their opening
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a week ago, this past Friday
against two weeks from this coming Friday.
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It's on a fifth Street in Cincinnati, right downtown, and I mean this
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is like perfect if you're looking to
kind of make a night of it downtown.
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Maybe it's a ball game this weekend. Obviously there's soccer at home this
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weekend as well, FC Cincinnati,
the Reds are playing the Yankees. And
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you're looking for something to sort of
tack onto it, might I suggest Five
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Iron Golf, Full Barn restaurant,
food is terrific, TV's all over the
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Joint, and fifteen track Man simulators. Since Five Iron Open, I have
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played Saint Andrews that didn't go great, and then Will Grimmer and I and
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I put this, I made a
post on social media. Will obviously from
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Marymont and Ohio state, qualified for
the Canadian Tour. In fact, I
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think he's he's either in route or
maybe that's next week. But he and
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I played Pebble Beach at Five Iron
Golf and he narrowly beat me, just
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by a couple of strokes. We
had an absolute blast. It's it's awesome
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for you and your buddies. It's
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it's great if you're not a hardcore
golfer. And they offer private lessons and
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clinics, and there's leagues and you
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They've got certified instructors. And again, like lots of stuff going on in
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sports, you don't want to miss
anything. There's TV's all over the place.
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I watched one of the Knicks playoff
games while playing at Five Iron,
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and well they lost that game,
so my golf games offen the blow five
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iron right Downtown check out five iron
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absolutely love it. I talked to
somebody early this week who stopped down during
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their lunch hour and they just practiced
using a track Man simulator for an hour.
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Don't have to drive out to a
range if the weather is not great,
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which we had rained this week,
and you could still get your golf
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fix in. I cannot recommend it
enough. I told you a couple of
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months ago they had I went to
one of the locations in Chicago, which
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was just terrific and so happy they've
opened one here and it's perfectly situated.
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seven seven six. Your phone calls
are coming up. Do we realize what
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the Bengals have in front of them? That incredible sports talk radio topic is
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coming up next on ESPN fifteen thirty. Are you ready for some football we
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are. This is Dave Lapard and
you're listening to the Home of the Bengals,
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ESPN fifteen thirty. Hey, what's
up, good Afternoonahamoegger, this is
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ESPN fifteen thirty. Thank you so
much for joining us. Red's Rug two
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zep on the Rockies, who are
wearing awesome City Connect uniforms, which they
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debuted last year. Red swear there's
on Friday, and I like them like
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not every extra uniform has to be
a vintage callback to a bygone era.
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You could do something kind of monitoring
forward and forward thinking and forward leaning,
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I guess, and I think the
Reds City Connect uniforms did that. They
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are up to nothing. Graham Ashcraft
is on the mound for Cincinnati. They're
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on the bottom of the fourth inning
on Getaway Day. Red's looking for a
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series victory over the Rocks before an
off day tomorrow and a homestand that starts
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with the Yankees on Friday night at
G A b P. I'm gonna play
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this audio for you. This is
from You're Gonna Hear Kay Adams who we
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love and Rob Gronkowski. This is
on Fan Duel TV. Joe Burrows contract
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has come up again today because he
has talked about it, and by the
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way, Jamar Chase has been asked
about it, and the reference was made
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by Joe's teammate to Joe maybe not
necessarily taking less, but understanding during the
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negotiation process that there is going to
be a need to sign other guys.
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But this conversation has gotten kind of
interesting to me for for one reason,
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and I'll give you that reason here
in just a second. But first I'm
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gonna play a part of this from
fan duel Kay Adams asking Rob Gronkowski about
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Joe Burrows impending contract extension. Not
Gronk the player, but the Gronk,
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the guy who's left the league now
understands money, understands how the business works.
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Would you advise him to sort of
do what Brady did for so many
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years of course and takes his teammates
into consideration when negotiating his contract. Yeah,
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I mean I believe that will you
know, set him up to be
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in the Super Bowl contention every single
year? And he reminded me of Brady
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when he was coming out of LSU, just the way that he sits back
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in the pocket and just reads the
offense and just delivers it flawlessly to wherever
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he needs to deliver the football.
But also with the contract, now he's
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already thinking, you know, he
wants good players around him, he wants
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good teammates around him, and that's
a great thing. I mean, what's
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the difference if you're you're a quarterback, you're in this day and era,
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and you're you're in this market and
you have a good teammates around you,
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You're you're building your legacy, You're
going to be in Super Bowl contention,
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possibly want a super Bowl, uh
you know, on your resume soon.
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And then you take a quarterback friendly
deal. I mean, what's the difference
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between forty forty seven forty eight million
or fifty three fifty four million When the
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next highest guy in your team's only
getting paid in the twenties, you're already
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that moment, there's already that big
of a difference between your pay and the
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next guy pay on your team.
So who carries? I mean, if
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you want a team around you take
tragging a couple million dollars lass, which
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is I don't know nothing in the
grand scheme for a quarterback, So I'm
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waiting for a quarterback to do that. Like kind of go down the Brady
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route, not as much as the
Brady route. I mean he was he
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was taking my half. He was
taking fifty percent discounts, which was which
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we don't even get at the Pro
Shop in New England. But Thomas we
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got thirty at the Pro Shop.
So I want to see it happen,
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but just not to that degree.
Just so just a little team we deal
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just a couple of million. I
think people are out there like no,
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because that's the thing, like get
paid, get your money. It's a
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business that use you. You're putting
your body out there, your career is
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released. Shure, you're setting yourself
up for life. Brady had Gazelle like
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that's the argument to not do it. Yeah, well, Joey B.
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It has Joey B. He's got
the whole state of Ohio. And uh,
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I'm sure if he takes a friendly
deal too, tell him to throw
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in the private plane a couple of
times, you know when he has to
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go there. That doesn't converse the
salary cap all right, Kay Adams talking
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with Rob Gronkowski, Um, I
acknowledge I live and work in Cincinnati,
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and so I hear a lot more
discourse and engage in a lot more discourse
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about the Bengals and Joe Burrow than
I do other teams and their quarterbacks.
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I read more about the Bengals than
I do any other team. I hear
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more about it. I frankly know
more about the Bengals than I do any
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other team. I acknowledge that,
But tell me if I'm wrong. Does
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it seem to you like Joe Burrows
specifically is the only quarterback we are talking
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about taking less? I haven't heard
anybody, and I'm guessing somewhere in Los
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Angeles this has come up. Where's
the question about Justin Herbert taking less?
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Jalen Hurts just signed an insane deal, by the way, signed a deal
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for what he's worth. I don't
really recall it becoming a national talking point
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that Jalen Hurts should sign something quote
team friendly. The Lamar Jackson thing was
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a national story because there was at
least the possibility that he would be traded,
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and the contract negotiations took a long
time. I haven't heard anybody on
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any major platform discuss whether or not
Lamar Jackson should take less. Now.
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Admittedly, Jamar Chase kind of stoked
this fire a little bit yesterday by mentioning
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Joe Burrows contract. But by the
way Joe Burrow yesterday spoke, he never
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said I'm taking less money than I'm
worth. He just acknowledged yeah, man,
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like I'm gonna get mine. Want
to keep the team together. Whatever
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Joe Burrow signs for, his fine, I'm if he If he does a
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deal where he's like, look,
I'll be the twentieth highest paid quarterback in
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the league. Fine, it doesn't
impact me. It is interesting to me,
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and you could tell me if you've
heard or noticed different. By the
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way, Luke Mayley just hit a
home run. It's three nothing, Cincinnati.
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You can you can tell me if
you've heard or seen different. It
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feels to me like the this quarterback
should take less, or should this quarterback
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take less? Those conversations solely revolve
around Joe Burrow. We're not doing this
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with anybody else. A couple of
things here, really quick. Whatever Joe
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signs for, he signs for.
It's not Joe Burrow's responsibility to take less
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money than he thinks he's worth.
He may he may do it willingly and
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happily, and that's fine, But
accepting what you're worth, first of all,
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it doesn't make you a bad person. Secondly, doesn't make you a
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bad employee. The onus is not
on Joe Burrow to get things figured out
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as it relates to the roster.
The onus is on Duke Tobin and the
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Brown family. By the way,
how come nobody ever says such and such
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wide receiver should take less money so
they can keep the quarterback happy. This
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is not on Joe Burrow to do
what's right. It's on Joe Burrow to
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do what he's happy with, And
it's on the Bengals to figure out common
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ground between what they're looking to do
and what Joe Burrow is also looking for.
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But in this era where we have
really devoted a lot of time to
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wondering which quarterbacks are going to sign
for what, how each contract affects the
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next one, and how each one
of these teams is now going to be
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impacted by having a quarterback making so
much more money for whatever reason, it
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feels like the guy that we're talking
about taking less is Joe Burrow in Baltimore,
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where they couldn't find weapons for Lamar
Jackson when he was cheap. To
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me, it's a bigger deal there
because you might have to overpay for receivers
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or in LA where they haven't won
anything with Justin Herbert and they've got dudes
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like Mike Williams and Keenan Allen who
are always hurt. Is maybe more on
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Justin Herbert to give a little bit
back so that franchise can find wide receivers.
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Not here again, whatever Joe's comfortable
signing for whatever, the Bengals are
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comfortable signing Joe too, whatever common
ground they mean. I'm mad man,
651
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dude, I just I want the
franchise quarterback and then we'll figure it out.
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And you know, I do think
it's refreshing to hear a player talk
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about, yeah, we got to
pay some other guys, and I Joe
654
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might end up being the highest paid
player in the league. But but I
655
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don't think he's gonna so drastically reset
the market that you look at the number
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and you're like, oh boy,
the onus isn't on the player. The
657
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onus is on the organization. By
the way, the organizations under a really
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good job of building a roster around
Joe Burrow. Yes, that is going
659
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to be a little bit more difficult
moving forward. And the blueprint is what
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you saw this spring with pay on
offense, draft on defense. But for
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some reason, and maybe it's because
Joe's on a good team and his team
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is won and he has good teammates, the larger onus is on the teams
663
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that haven't won anything. Joe hasn't
won a championship, but he's won more
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than Lamar Jackson. Joe hasn't won
a championship, but he's won more than
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Justin Herbert. And he's at least
won as much as Jalen Hurts. And
666
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he was taken earlier in the draft
a few years ago. Why because he's
667
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a better player. Why at five
point three seven four nine, fifteen thirty.
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And maybe I'm dead wrong. Maybe
there have been a thousand TV segments
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about how hurt should take less,
or Herbert should take less, or somebody
670
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else on the market should take less, and I haven't seen it, but
671
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it feels to me like since the
offseason started, since we really started to
672
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focus on this, that Joe's contract
has been a bigger talking point because of
673
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how he should maybe think about taking
less. I don't believe it is anybody's
674
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business what someone else gets when they
negotiate a contract. And yet everybody seems
675
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to want to stick. They're nos
in Joe's I don't see that with other
676
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players. And again, you're not
a bad person if you demand what you're
677
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worth. And the market might dictate
that Joe Burrow is worth fifty five million
678
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dollars a year. Okay, Well, if the Bengals are willing to pay
679
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him that, then awesome. And
if they're not, then they've got to
680
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achieve some common ground. The onus
is not on Joe Burrow. The onus
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is not on the quarterback. Nobody's
putting the onus. Nobody said Lamar.
682
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In fact, I read a lot
of folks who are like, yeah,
683
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Lamar, Jackson's in the right.
He should be holding out for what Deshaun
684
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Watson got. I wonder why this
is, and I don't have an answer.
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Five one, three, seven,
four, nine, fifteen thirty Preakness
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is this weekend? Who which horse
shall we wager on? Dick Girardi tells
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us next. It is twenty two
minutes after three o'clock. This is ESPN
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fifteen thirty on Moeger. Your phone
calls are coming up. For the first
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time in seventy five years. There
is only one horse from the Kentucky Derby
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Racing in the Preakness Stakes, it's
the winner of the run for the Roses
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mage looking to keep Triple Crown hopes
alive in what is a small field relative
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to what we're used to when it
comes to Triple Crown horse racing. We
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turn to one of the experts,
one of the all time grades, the
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iconic Dick Girardi, who is with
us on behalf of a bet online,
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going to bet online for the most
up to date odds and props on the
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Preakness. It is good to have
you as always, Dick, Thank you
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so much. How are you?
I've done good? No, how about
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you? I'm doing well at face
value, And this is maybe a stupid
699
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question. At face value, it
seems like it would be easier to handicap
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and eight horse race. Why am
I wrong? If I am now here
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not rock, it's obviously there.
You can get a better sense of how
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the race is going to be run. And the Derby is such a crazy
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race because of that gigantic field,
and you have horses in many cases that
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are running goodtindst to each other for
the first time, so it makes it
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even harder to match up. So
yes, this is much easier race to
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get a sense of how it's going
to be rotten, who's gonna win?
707
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All right? So oftentimes we could
look at, you know, the way
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the Derby unfolded, and maybe applied
that to how we handicapped the Preakness.
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I can only do that with one
horse, and it's the horse that won
710
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it. So what do we learn
about Mage two weeks ago in Louisville.
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I think we learned that he's an
extremely talented horse to be able to do
712
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that in his fourth lifetime start,
and it was only a second win.
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He had run well in the Fountain
of Youth behind Forte, would have been
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the Derby favorite had he not been
scratched the morning of the race, and
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then he ran a really good second
in the Florida Derby behind Fote. Again,
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the question was was it too much
too soon for Made And the answer
717
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was definitively no. He was terrific. Was he helped by a really hot
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pace up front? He was,
But any horse coming from the back was
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helped by that same pace, and
he was the only one that could take
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a jum win the race. All
right, So you're gonna have a lot
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of horses running that. Folks who
maybe only pay attention to the Trouble Crown
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aren't as familiar with remove made from
the equation. Talk about the other seven?
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Who do you like? I like
the one National Treasure. He's got
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a lot of things that I like
in my handicapping in general. He's got
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the inside post and a track where
the inside is generally a good place to
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be. He looks like he has
a chance to be out on the lead
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by himself. There's only one other
horse with any kind of speed Number four
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Coffee with Chris, and I just
don't think Coffee with Chris is of the
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same caliber. National Treasure comes from
California. Most recently ran fourth, beaten
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three lengths by Practical Move and the
Santen into Derby. But this is going
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to be a way different race than
that was. I think National Treasure is
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going to get things more where he's
going to be more comfortable. And he's
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trained by Bob Effort, who's going
for the all time Preakness record. He's
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already won seven, he's tied for
the record at the moment, he's trying
735
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to win his eighth, and obviously
he's going to be especially interested in winning
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big races because he's been out of
all the Triple Crown races for exactly two
737
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years. He hasn't not a horse
in a Triple Crown race since the Preakness
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of twenty twenty one, so he
is going to be very motivated. I
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think he's got a good horse,
and I'm looking at National Treasure at five
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to one. When it's when it's
an eight horse field, there aren't as
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many long shots. You talked about
Coffee with Chris. Is there's somebody lower
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on the board that maybe jumps out
to you more than the others. Yeah,
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you know, I think there's only
I think the five of the eight
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horses can win. I don't think
the two can win, Chase the Chaos.
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I don't think Coffee it's Chris can
win. I don't think for Worm
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can win. All the rest of
him. Probably Red Route one, who's
747
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listened to ten to one, which
in this race is going to be a
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long shot. It's not like a
Derby when you're getting thirty and forty and
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fifty to one shots. I think
would have the best chance. He looks
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like he's getting better with each race. He's by gun Runner, who's a
751
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sensational sire. The issue with that
horse is that there isn't going to be
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a lot of pace like it was
in Kentucky, and he comes from way
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way back, so he really could
use a hot pace in front of him.
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I just don't think he's gonna get
it. Is there is there a
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prop in an eight horse race that
maybe stands out? Yeah, I'm like
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the over under bet online of a
length and a half for the win,
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because if I'm right about National Treasure, I think he's gonna win pretty convincingly.
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And if I'm not right, you
still got a chance to win with
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Mage because if he runs back to
his dirty and nobody else does any better
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than they've ever done before, he's
going to win by a significant margin.
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The question is can he give that
same effort he gave two weeks ago?
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All right, National Treasure, That's
what I'm doing, Dick. It's awesome
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to have you man. Thank you
so much. You gotta thank you.
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See Dick Girardi, the iconic horse
racing writer bet online dot ag got a
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Man. Look, I'm I'm going
to defer to the Cincinnati Bengals regardless
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of how much money Joe Burrow pulls
in. I also feel like this is
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this, you know, we kind
of joked about this yesterday. Maybe Burrow
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signs his deal before Herbert, but
okay, Lamar signed his deal. I'm
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sorry, Jalen Hurts got his,
then Lamar got his, and then the
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next in line among others. Let's
say it's justin Herbert. The increase will
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be slightly more, the guaranteed money
will be slightly higher, and then Joe
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Burrow falls in line, and then
you know, yeah, they're gonna have
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some things to figure out. I
think what you've seen in the draft the
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last two years is illustrative of what
their plan is going to be. We
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are going to pay guys on offense. We are going to pay our absolute
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stars on offense. We're gonna be
willing to let some really good players on
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defense get away, and we're going
to prioritize that side of the ball in
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the draft. Also, not to
bring up a bad memory when they don't
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win the Super Bowl against the Rams, when they don't capitalize having the football
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against the Chiefs in a tie game
with two and a half minutes to go
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and timeouts in their back pocket,
and we talk about how much that stung.
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One of the reasons why we talked
about why that stung is those devastating
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and heartbreaking and excruciating losses occurred while
Joe was under a rookie contract. Joe
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Burrow got drafted. As much as
it might have been almost impossible for most
787
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of us to conceive the Bengals playing
in the Super Bowl two years ago,
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we talked about the heightened importance of
winning while he's under a rookie contract,
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how big of a deal that was. Because he was as good as advertised,
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it was going to become a little
bit more difficult, if not a
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lot more difficult, the minute he
signs a long term deal. Whatever he
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signs for, I'd defer to Joe. I'd defer to the Bengals because I
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feel like both sides deserve it.
What I find fascinating is the almost obsession
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with what Joe signs for, And
I would find it less fascinating if that
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was talked about with all these other
guys. Maybe it's because Joe already has
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good teammates with him. Well,
here's the thing about the Bengals. They've
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proven they can draft some really good
players on offense. Granted, with Jamar
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Chase, he had the luxury the
fifth overall pick. Not so much with
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T Higgins. These other franchises Ravens
have given nobody for Lamar to throw too.
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But with Joe there's like this now
that if he signs, let's say
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he signs for the most money on
an annual average basis, annual average value
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00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:13.360
basis in the history the league,
they're gonna find folks who used that to
803
00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:19.760
characterize him as either not a good
teammate or not a good guy. What
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00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:23.239
we need to know about the injury
issues facing TJ. Friedel and Nicolodola with
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00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:30.079
one of the experts from Ortho since
next no one covers the Bengals like ESPN
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00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:35.840
fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station twenty
three After twenty three away from five o'clock
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on ESPN fifteen thirty m Oegger.
Every Wednesday, we talk injuries. This
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00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:44.760
started during the football season, we've
kept it going au throughout baseball. We
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00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:49.039
chat with one of the experts from
Orthos since Orthos, since he has specialists
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and locations across the tri State and
they offer walk in orthopedic urgent care during
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the week from nine am to nine
pm and on Saturdays from nine am to
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00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:06.199
one pm. Learn more at Orthoscinc
dot com. That's orthos ci NCY dot
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01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:08.360
com. Joining us this week is
our buddy, Doctor Angel of Alaska is
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from Ortho. Since I have two
reds I want to ask you about.
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One is TJ. Friedo with his
oblique but the other let's start with Nick
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Ladolo. So we saw earlier this
week he was going to be sidelined with
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a calf issue. Now we have
seen that he underwent an MRI and they
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have determined that he is having a
he has a stress reaction in his left
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tibium and he's going to be reevaluated
in a couple of weeks. Let's start
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with that. The beginning of that
verbiage. What is a stress reaction,
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Well, you know as reaction and
the TVA means that there's some bruising into
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the bond that is caused by loading. Right, So you know these guys
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to be ready, you know,
they need to train, they need to
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run, they need to do some
weightlifting and sometimes with the with the weight
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and they pushing off. You know, on the stress and amount they can
826
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develop this inflammation into the bond.
Don't become a stress I bees a fraction
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in the future. So you know, the stress reaction is a bomb bruise
828
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right when you when you turn that
into a stress fracture, it's more like
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a like a frashure or a crack
or a break into the bond. That
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sounds like he doesn't have. So
stress reaction means an inflammation on a bruise
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into the box, all right,
a tibia. Where's the tibia? The
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TVA is one of the two bonds
that goes on the lower leg that they
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both those two bonds go into the
foot and become an ankle. Right,
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So the TVA is the bond that
that got most of the weight that is
835
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coming on your body. So everything
he's pushing off, especially you know left
836
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left handed picture left leg, he's
pushing with an angle and most of the
837
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way I'm going to go that agly
to that TV he's pushing off. So
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he's going to be evaluated in a
couple of weeks. When that evaluation is
839
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done, what sort of things are
they going to be looking for? Well,
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number one. You know, the
triment for that is you know,
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partial weight bearing astolidated. We put
on a walking booth. You may use
842
01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:08.960
crosses on occasion, depending how much
pen it is and how ear it is,
843
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you know, and from then he's
able to put weight, you know,
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depending how he's feeling when he doesn't
have pain. And in two ways,
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they're gonna press on it. Because
you press into the bond, you
846
01:02:20.119 --> 01:02:23.320
figure out how much pain he has, and then from there you can start
847
01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:29.400
doing some weight bearing physical activities to
progress. Obviously on a professional level.
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Sometimes you know, or most of
the time, you may get a second
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MRI to be sure how's the healing
if the timing you know, and the
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extent doesn't correlate, so you know, in two ways it's gonna be surely
851
01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:42.679
his pain is gone away, they're
gonna press on it. They're gonna make
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01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:45.000
him start putting some weight on it, see where the pen is. Obviously
853
01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:50.559
at that level they do you know
a lot of no weight or you know,
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01:02:50.719 --> 01:02:52.920
restrict the weight, exercise it.
They have the ultragy you know,
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01:02:53.559 --> 01:02:58.119
running and they have the pool that
they can do exercise so they can still
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01:02:58.199 --> 01:03:04.000
be active. Keep the cardiovascar examina, but obviously not putting weight on it.
857
01:03:05.119 --> 01:03:08.920
What is what is without the benefit
of actually doing the examination? What
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is the most likely prognosis here?
How long can we be talking about him
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01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:16.440
being off the mount? Well,
you know a lot of time. These
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01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:20.400
take around a couple of weeks for
that bruce to go away, depending the
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stage. Remember you know those those
a stress reactions, there's different classification.
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01:03:24.760 --> 01:03:29.480
They can go from a little bruise
to almost a stress fraction. Right,
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01:03:29.599 --> 01:03:34.280
So depending what is the classification,
how much bruce he has is how long
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01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:37.199
he's gonna say? Everybody heal different. You know he's a young guy.
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01:03:37.239 --> 01:03:43.559
Obviously you're expecting to heal quicker or
you know, as you expect. Other
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01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:47.159
thing is there's other factors we figure
out the bottom INDs another factor that can
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increase the risk for stress reactions.
So you know, I don't know,
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01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:54.119
you know, check bottom indeed from
pre physical and be sure. How's that
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01:03:54.920 --> 01:04:00.000
All those kinds of things can help
to look for risk factors, right,
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01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:02.320
and hopefully in two weeks, yeah, a lot less pain, he can
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01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:08.000
start adding more weight bearing and obviously
start throwing the ball and then prog recipation.
872
01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:11.280
Remember you know, as it started
pitcher, a reliever pitcher that's different
873
01:04:11.360 --> 01:04:15.280
from the throwing standpoint, take a
little bit longer, just from being started
874
01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:20.679
on a reliever. Doctor Angel Velasquez
from Ortho Syncias with us, let's discuss
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01:04:20.719 --> 01:04:25.119
TJ. Friedl, who's on the
injurlist right now with an oblique strain.
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01:04:25.239 --> 01:04:28.800
So he left the game that the
Reds played last week against the Mets.
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01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:33.159
The MRI they did revealed only minor
damage. They spent a couple of days
878
01:04:33.159 --> 01:04:38.360
trying to figure out how severe the
damage was. He did some baseball activity,
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01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:41.760
but ultimately they put him on the
interlist. They waited a couple of
880
01:04:41.800 --> 01:04:44.480
days to put them on the IL. So give us an idea of what
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01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:47.199
they could have been looking for while
they made the determination as to what the
882
01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:51.039
course of action was going to be. Well, you know, first when
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01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:55.880
you get an oblique injury at the
beginning, the symptoms may not be that
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01:04:56.199 --> 01:04:59.159
intense. Right, you feel something, Oh I feel that, I get
885
01:04:59.199 --> 01:05:01.239
a little crimp there. Obviously you
take it out the game. Uh,
886
01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:04.079
you evaluate him. He feels better
the next day, and he gave a
887
01:05:04.079 --> 01:05:09.079
couple of days depending you know how
many games you have on that moment,
888
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:12.719
how many people on the roster you
have, you may wait and then when
889
01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:15.039
you realize, okay, you know, we gotta test. We got an
890
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:16.719
m R. We know exactly what
it is. It's gonna take him time.
891
01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:20.159
Then you retracted, go to the
you know, the injury release right,
892
01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:24.079
so you if he's not playing,
he can go back retracted. So
893
01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:28.039
those four days really the only thing
they didn't have an extra player to play,
894
01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:30.280
right, but they managed to go
through that, and uh, and
895
01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:34.159
then after you realize what it is, then you can start progressing. So
896
01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:39.920
you know, oblique injuries, you
know, could be minor, could be
897
01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:45.079
major. Um, you know,
hitters are forty seven percent of the oblique
898
01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:47.440
injuries in major debase. You know, pictures are thirty five percent. Hitters
899
01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:53.639
are forty seven percent. So after
you realize what it is, first first
900
01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:56.880
one or three days is complete arrest, right, let it rest, let
901
01:05:56.880 --> 01:06:00.639
it come down, reevaluate it.
And then after that you can started getting
902
01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:05.679
some kind of allie activities over the
first week and then progress slowly depending how
903
01:06:05.679 --> 01:06:13.280
he feels. Are there treatment options
for something like this beyond rest, Yes,
904
01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:16.719
there's a lot of different treatment options. You know, first they rehab
905
01:06:16.719 --> 01:06:20.360
asked with so advanced right now that
you can do a lot of activities that
906
01:06:20.440 --> 01:06:23.480
in the past we weren't able to
do. You know, we can do
907
01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:27.760
some you know, pull low resists
and exercise as early as one a week
908
01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:31.400
one when the pain allied allow it, and then progress to that and then
909
01:06:31.480 --> 01:06:36.519
adding high speed and more loaded into
the play by week by a ten to
910
01:06:36.599 --> 01:06:41.559
fourteen days. Right, But you
can do other things dependent degree of the
911
01:06:41.599 --> 01:06:45.719
injury or Blake's injury, because the
muscle injury they should heal by itself.
912
01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:49.119
But sometimes it is a minor,
minor injury, you can do a little
913
01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:53.480
bit of injection to calm down the
inflammation, like a little stereoshop, or
914
01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:56.880
it's a little bit more like a
tail. You can do plate late injection
915
01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:00.079
or PRP injection to help. So, yes, there is different things that
916
01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:05.760
can be done depending the degree of
the severity of the injury. And sometimes
917
01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:09.039
you don't really have to do anything. You just need to you know,
918
01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:12.760
I needs something that is really minor, you may let the course go and
919
01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:17.639
you just progress with the exercise and
therapy to promote that fusion of healing of
920
01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:24.280
the muscle. Outstanding insight. As
always, it's always good to talk to
921
01:07:24.280 --> 01:07:27.559
you. We'll do it soon,
man, Thank you so much, thank
922
01:07:27.599 --> 01:07:30.880
you, thank you. You got
a doctor. Angel of Alasquez from Orthos
923
01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:34.639
since Orthosinc. Dot com. I
say this every single week. The great
924
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thing about the people that Orthos since
specialists on locations all across the Tri State.
925
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This includes walk in orthopedic urgent care
weekdays from nine am to nine pm
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and on Saturdays from nine am to
one pm, and both Edgewood and Eastgate.
927
01:07:49.719 --> 01:07:56.079
And it goes without saying it's easier
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01:07:56.159 --> 01:07:59.719
an ear when you have an urgent
orthopedic injury. Go to Ortho Sinc.
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Dot com. That's Orthoci NCY dot
com. It is fourteen away from five
930
01:08:06.920 --> 01:08:12.079
o'clock. Brenneman and Jones on baseball
coming up on ESPN fifteen thirty. Hey
931
01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:16.720
Alexa, what's the latest on the
NBA? Getting ESPN fifteen thirty from iHeartRadio.
932
01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:24.239
You got game once to night between
the Heat and Celtics. Pretty big
933
01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:27.239
sports night. By the way,
the wheels have fallen off for the Red
934
01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:30.760
Zon Denver. They had a five
zip lead. Colorado scored five times in
935
01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:35.039
the bottom of the fifth inning,
all of the runs charged to Graham Ashcraft
936
01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:41.960
two legit to quit. Huh.
That's the Rockies right now. Tell you
937
01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:45.319
what you're not wrong about that they
have They tied the game with five runs
938
01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:47.600
in the fifth inning, and then
they have just scored two more in the
939
01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:54.319
six to take a seven to five
lead. Lucas Simms in relief of Graham
940
01:08:54.359 --> 01:08:58.800
Ashcraft. That has not gone well. Graham Ashcraft gave up five runs in
941
01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:03.199
the fifth and they brought to back
out there for the sixth inning. I
942
01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:11.359
think that's reflective of bullpen quality and
bullpen usage. Brennaman and Jones on baseball.
943
01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:15.840
Next, the Schwans that brought food
to my grandmother. Hell yeah,
944
01:09:18.920 --> 01:09:24.039
listen to him talk about Schwans.
My grandma had her like food delivered by
945
01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:28.920
Schwans for years, legitimately the greatest
cookies and cream ice cream of all time.
946
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:33.439
Go work for Schwans just so you
can get a discount on cookies and
947
01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:39.279
cream ice cream. I might.
I might restart Schwan's home delivery just so
948
01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:43.119
I can get a couple of gallons
of that. That sounds amazing. Good
949
01:09:43.159 --> 01:09:45.800
afternoon, I'm agger. This is
ESPN fifteen thirty. Thank you for listening.
950
01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:50.920
I'm a little bit disappointed in my
producer. Taran Bland, typically does
951
01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:55.640
a very good job. And maybe
because tomorrow I'm not going to be here.
952
01:09:56.199 --> 01:10:00.600
I'm taking the day off. Tomorrow's
my daughter's sixth birthday and she is
953
01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:03.600
winding down kindergarten. So kindergarten,
it's like a half day, right,
954
01:10:03.760 --> 01:10:09.560
So we're getting off school at like
eleven thirty and we're gonna I'm gonna do,
955
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:12.159
go, do something that doesn't involve
me sitting in a studio. So
956
01:10:12.359 --> 01:10:16.479
I'm taking tomorrow off, and so
maybe there's the substitute teacher feel of tomorrow
957
01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:21.199
is already starting to creep in.
Taran Bland has put a lock and key
958
01:10:21.279 --> 01:10:25.199
on the phones. He has not
allowed me to take phone calls. He
959
01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:28.399
has not allowed me to throw out
the I've thrown out the phone number,
960
01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:30.319
and then he almost like mutes me. Five one, three, seven,
961
01:10:30.399 --> 01:10:34.359
four, nine, fifteen thirty A
billion different things on the table. There
962
01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:38.319
are a couple of things that I
need to mention here very very quickly.
963
01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:42.840
The first is this, the Reds
are playing right now. Things were going
964
01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:46.279
really well. Graham Ashcraft in the
first four innings was cruising. Luke Malee
965
01:10:46.359 --> 01:10:50.079
hit a home run. Luke Malee
hit a double look Malee has been a
966
01:10:50.159 --> 01:10:54.760
pleasant surprise with the bat. Stewart
Fairschild drove in a couple of runs.
967
01:10:55.159 --> 01:10:59.159
It's five nothing midway through the game, four and a half in now you
968
01:10:59.239 --> 01:11:00.680
know, as they say, no
lead of coors Field is safe. And
969
01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:05.439
then the wheels completely fell off.
Graham Ashcraft gave up five runs in the
970
01:11:05.520 --> 01:11:09.600
fifth and then was brought back out
for the sixth, where he gave up
971
01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:12.560
a couple of more. Lucas Sims
came in, he was a gas can.
972
01:11:12.720 --> 01:11:15.439
He gave up four runs. It
is now eleven to five in favor
973
01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:17.800
of Colorado as the Reds get set
to come to bat in the top of
974
01:11:17.840 --> 01:11:23.800
the seventh inning. Of course,
it is coors Field, although it's worth
975
01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:30.279
mentioning the Rockies have scored eleven runs
through six innings and they have not hit
976
01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:33.600
a home run. In fact,
they have scored eleven home runs and they
977
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:40.039
only have three extra base hits.
Tarn, here's a research project for you
978
01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:45.079
in the history of cors Field,
how many times have the Rockies scored double
979
01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:48.239
digit runs without the benefit of a
home run. Now, they obviously still
980
01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:51.039
have at least two more innings to
hit so they can still hit a home
981
01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:57.399
run. I'm guessing that hasn't happened
all that often. So we have that
982
01:11:58.600 --> 01:12:00.720
while we're on baseball, and I'll
I'll pull the curtain back here for a
983
01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:03.800
second. We're not really supposed to
do a lot of baseball because we're on
984
01:12:03.960 --> 01:12:08.560
opposite the baseball. But I mean, honestly, I don't care. Can
985
01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:14.439
I just spend sixty seconds here on
something? The Aaron Judge thing. Aaron
986
01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:21.359
Judge was supposedly peeking back toward the
Yankee dugout the other night, and the
987
01:12:21.439 --> 01:12:29.640
Blue Jay's broadcast essentially accused him of
stealing signs, and the Blue Jays yesterday,
988
01:12:29.840 --> 01:12:34.760
they're in their game with the Yankees, decided to yell at the Yankees
989
01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:39.880
third base coach, because when you're
mad at six foot seven, two pound
990
01:12:39.880 --> 01:12:44.159
Aaron Judge, there's nothing you can
do about it. The Blue Jays pitcher,
991
01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:49.119
Jay Jackson is his name, by
the way, he indicated, didn't
992
01:12:49.199 --> 01:12:54.960
say, he didn't indicate. He
said he was tipping pitches. And so
993
01:12:55.159 --> 01:13:00.960
you've seen this by now, Aaron
Judge kind of glancing sideways looking in the
994
01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:10.399
dugout, trying to steal a sign
You're allowed to steal signs in baseball,
995
01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:13.359
and there's a really good chance,
if you're listening to me right now,
996
01:13:13.479 --> 01:13:17.840
you know this. Stealing signs is
allowed. It's as old as the game
997
01:13:17.880 --> 01:13:24.800
itself. You've always been allowed to
steal signs. You've always been allowed to
998
01:13:24.840 --> 01:13:30.720
do that. Now it will anger
your opponent if you do. But there
999
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:35.319
is a stark difference between something that
is illegal, like against the rules,
1000
01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:40.319
and something that's going to piss off
your opponent. Bat flips are legal,
1001
01:13:41.079 --> 01:13:44.239
of course they are. They should
be. But as much as I think
1002
01:13:44.279 --> 01:13:46.079
it's dumb to get mad at a
bat flip, you're allowed to flip your
1003
01:13:46.119 --> 01:13:50.079
bat. Your opponent is allowed to
be mad about it. Now. It's
1004
01:13:50.119 --> 01:13:53.800
stupid to throw a baseball at somebody
for flipping a bat, and I think
1005
01:13:53.800 --> 01:13:58.000
it's stupid to throw a baseball at
somebody for stealing signs. And you're out
1006
01:13:58.039 --> 01:14:00.720
of your mind if you throw a
baseball at air and judge, because he's
1007
01:14:00.760 --> 01:14:09.239
going to destroy you. Stealing signs
is legal. The Houston Astros did not
1008
01:14:09.359 --> 01:14:13.920
get in trouble for stealing signs.
They got in trouble for using electronic methods
1009
01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:17.319
to steal signs. That is against
the rules. You're not allowed to do
1010
01:14:17.479 --> 01:14:25.119
that. You should hope the Cincinnati
Reds are teaching their players had to steal
1011
01:14:25.199 --> 01:14:31.920
signs legally. You should hope that's
happening. And it's a little bit more
1012
01:14:31.960 --> 01:14:38.479
difficult to do now because of pitch
coom and I don't know how many ketcher
1013
01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:42.960
pitcher combinations use PitchCom versus you know, dropping the fingers down. But it
1014
01:14:43.119 --> 01:14:45.119
feels like a lot more now as
opposed to early last season. It feels
1015
01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:48.600
like everybody's getting used to the technology
and how it works. And you will
1016
01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:53.000
I watch enough baseball where you will
still see ketchers drop a few fingers.
1017
01:14:53.199 --> 01:14:57.199
Tyler Stevenson had to do it in
a game earlier this year. You're allowed
1018
01:14:57.239 --> 01:15:00.079
to you you're allowed to steal a
third base coach's sign. You're allowed to
1019
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:04.880
steal a sign from You're you're allowed
defensively to steal a sign. That's never
1020
01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:13.399
been illegal. Electronic methods to steal
signs have been banned since nineteen sixty one.
1021
01:15:15.079 --> 01:15:18.039
That's not been legal in six decades. That's not new now. They
1022
01:15:18.119 --> 01:15:24.800
amended it because technology is advanced since
nineteen sixty one, But there was a
1023
01:15:24.840 --> 01:15:28.319
whole bunch of like, well,
Aaron Judge is a cheater. You cheat
1024
01:15:28.399 --> 01:15:30.159
if you break the rules. If
you if you bring sand paper out to
1025
01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:33.680
the mound, you're breaking the rule. You're not allowed to do that.
1026
01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:40.840
You're not allowed to use a foreign
substance to doctor the baseball. That's illegal.
1027
01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:47.800
You're not allowed to cork your bat. That's illegal. The starting pitcher
1028
01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:53.359
for the Yankees last night, Domingo
Herman, used a foreign substance on the
1029
01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:56.600
baseball. He was kicked out.
He broke a rule. There's nothing in
1030
01:15:56.840 --> 01:16:04.439
MLB's rules about stealing signs. There
are aren't There are rules about using technology.
1031
01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:09.319
Aaron Judge didn't cheat. He might
have done something to pissed off the
1032
01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:14.319
Blue Jays, and he'll have to
deal with the consequences for that. He
1033
01:16:14.439 --> 01:16:18.960
won't deal with any because he's six
foot seven pounds, so no one's gonna
1034
01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:23.760
step to him, no one's gonna
throw at him. If he was built
1035
01:16:23.800 --> 01:16:28.840
like Jonathan India, maybe it's a
little bit different. You could do something
1036
01:16:28.920 --> 01:16:30.199
that the other team doesn't like.
It doesn't mean you broke a rule.
1037
01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:35.600
You can't use technology, but hey, the information's out there. The other
1038
01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:41.760
team is tipping pitches or the dugout
is sharing a sign that I can decode
1039
01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:46.279
or I can blatantly get. You're
allowed to look. You are allowed hitters
1040
01:16:46.319 --> 01:16:50.319
won't do this. You are allowed
to crouch down. If the catcher's not
1041
01:16:50.479 --> 01:16:55.800
using PitchCom and he's dropping signs,
you know, in his crotch area,
1042
01:16:56.680 --> 01:17:00.319
you're allowed to bend down and blatantly
stare. Now you're probably gonna get hit
1043
01:17:01.239 --> 01:17:04.079
again. I think it's stupid to
throw a baseball at somebody because they hurt
1044
01:17:04.119 --> 01:17:08.880
your feelings, but you're probably gonna
deal with some sort of repercussion from the
1045
01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:14.159
opponent. You're allowed to do that. If the third base coach was going
1046
01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:18.000
through his signs right, you're you're
allowed to yell them out the way defensive
1047
01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:24.840
players sometimes in basketball will yell out
the opposing offensive teams set. I just
1048
01:17:25.359 --> 01:17:28.520
feel I felt like as a PSA, I would I would. I would
1049
01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:32.479
bring this up because it seems to
me like there's a lot of people who
1050
01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:38.279
don't understand this. Because it might
be frowned upon or because it might anger
1051
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:45.000
your opponent doesn't mean it's illegal.
I had something else, um related to
1052
01:17:45.119 --> 01:17:50.840
a press release that I got like
right before the show, and I maybe
1053
01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:56.079
I'll save that. Actually, no, here, I'm gonna do this really
1054
01:17:56.159 --> 01:17:58.960
quickly here, Tarn. You know, sometimes I will share with you some
1055
01:17:59.039 --> 01:18:02.119
of the press release that I get. Yes, I got one here from
1056
01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:10.640
Zach Heiling from Newman Communications. Now, the pitch here is for a book
1057
01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:15.680
author who has written a book called
Youth Contact Sports and Broken Brains, unveiling
1058
01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:20.399
the hidden impact of repetitive trauma on
young athletes. On a show like this
1059
01:18:20.600 --> 01:18:25.880
that really doesn't work. Let's be
honest, it's a little bit too heavy
1060
01:18:25.920 --> 01:18:30.720
for me. But what kind of
amused me? Was the subject line of
1061
01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:33.720
the email, Hello Mo. This
isn't the subject line, Hello Mo.
1062
01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:40.640
Explore the hidden impact of repetitive brain
trauma on young athletes with author Bruce Parkman.
1063
01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:48.920
Exclamation point. Let's we've talked a
lot today about Joe Burrows contract.
1064
01:18:49.359 --> 01:18:53.000
Rob, you're on ESPN fifteen thirty. Thanks for hanging on. How are
1065
01:18:53.039 --> 01:19:00.279
you? I'm good, Mo?
How are you not too bad? What's
1066
01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:01.079
on your mind? Do you have
to play both parts? Rob? Are
1067
01:19:01.119 --> 01:19:08.560
you there? Rob is? Rob
winked? Something bad happened to Rob?
1068
01:19:08.920 --> 01:19:15.000
Okay? Jeff, You're on ESPN
fifteen thirty. What's up? My powers
1069
01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:20.439
out, So I've been kind of
lumbering around. I forgot what adverb Austin
1070
01:19:20.520 --> 01:19:25.039
threw in front of that, but
I've just been lumbering around. I think
1071
01:19:25.079 --> 01:19:29.960
it was somewhat somewhat lumbering. Okay, okay, you got a huge kick
1072
01:19:30.039 --> 01:19:33.199
out of that. I did.
There was there was a slight inside joke
1073
01:19:33.319 --> 01:19:36.720
involved, but yes, I got
a big kick out of that. Yeah,
1074
01:19:38.119 --> 01:19:42.039
I can understand that. So,
um, I guess I got lured
1075
01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:45.520
in by the Reds minus one and
a half at plus one sixty. I
1076
01:19:45.680 --> 01:19:47.000
get that one's not gonna pay off. Well, you know what you could
1077
01:19:47.039 --> 01:19:51.119
buy it in game. I'm sure
there's lots of value. Yeah. Now,
1078
01:19:51.279 --> 01:19:55.000
did you pick the Heat minus eight
and a half or plus three hundred?
1079
01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:59.000
I couldn't decipher what you're picking.
I won plus eight h it'said eight
1080
01:19:59.039 --> 01:20:01.119
and a half. Now, the
money line's a little bit too rich for
1081
01:20:01.239 --> 01:20:05.399
me, but I like plus eight
and I think there's great value on the
1082
01:20:05.520 --> 01:20:10.319
series. I think some are I
think Boston's gonna win the series, but
1083
01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:15.239
man Spolstra gives him a coaching advantage, and Jimmy Butler is terrific. Yeah,
1084
01:20:15.359 --> 01:20:18.720
so I have a few thoughts on
Joe number one. I think Gronk
1085
01:20:18.960 --> 01:20:24.279
is factually wrong. Brady never took
a fifty percent haircut on a contract.
1086
01:20:24.840 --> 01:20:28.520
He always got a full contract.
But what he did was restructure every year,
1087
01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:31.479
which unfortunately we know the Bengals do
not do up until now, right
1088
01:20:31.840 --> 01:20:36.199
And I'm not Andre Parratta, but
my understanding is when you restructure, you
1089
01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:41.600
just convert salary to signing bonus or
something like that. And I don't think
1090
01:20:41.720 --> 01:20:45.279
I don't think Brady ever gave up
a dollar of what he signed for on
1091
01:20:45.399 --> 01:20:49.000
a contract. By the way,
Tom Brady just signed prior to last season
1092
01:20:49.119 --> 01:20:54.119
when he retired the first time,
a three hundred and sixty five million dollar
1093
01:20:54.279 --> 01:20:59.840
contract with Fox. Now, the
media landscape is not great right now,
1094
01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:01.960
I'll just call it what it is. You got media companies laying off people
1095
01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:05.800
left and right. Shouldn't there be
more pressure on Tom Brady to not sign
1096
01:21:05.880 --> 01:21:11.159
for as much when he's never broadcast
a game before with Fox so some of
1097
01:21:11.199 --> 01:21:14.880
the employees at Fox can keep their
jobs. Isn't that a bigger deal than
1098
01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:18.159
Joe Burrows signing for less with the
Bengals. How about the fact he's taking
1099
01:21:18.159 --> 01:21:20.520
a year off on the first year
of the deal, right, yes,
1100
01:21:20.800 --> 01:21:25.680
so like everybody loves Tom Tom Brady
did well. Cool, Yeah, he's
1101
01:21:26.239 --> 01:21:29.720
so. Some of his football teammates
can make more money. He got production
1102
01:21:29.800 --> 01:21:32.520
assistance and folks behind the scenes losing
their gigs at Fox. I think Tom
1103
01:21:32.560 --> 01:21:36.479
Brady should give some of the money
back. Well. And on the Joe
1104
01:21:36.600 --> 01:21:41.119
side of the deal, you know, he graduated undergrad in three years,
1105
01:21:41.359 --> 01:21:44.840
got a master's degree. He in
turn at Goldman Sacks. For God's sakes,
1106
01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:47.119
he knows finance, he knows money, he knows what he's worth.
1107
01:21:47.560 --> 01:21:51.680
And I would bet it's not a
reach to think that he knows the salary
1108
01:21:51.720 --> 01:21:56.239
cap almost as well as his agent, and almost as well as Duke does,
1109
01:21:56.680 --> 01:22:00.920
not one hundred percent proficient like they
are. And this thing about well,
1110
01:22:00.920 --> 01:22:02.800
if you just take forty eight million
instead of fifty million, it's no
1111
01:22:02.920 --> 01:22:06.159
big deal. I'm like, you've
been on this forever. Why would anybody
1112
01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:10.359
take less money than what they think
of that yours? And if they want
1113
01:22:10.399 --> 01:22:14.520
to, that's fine. Nobody should
feel compelled to. And it just it
1114
01:22:14.680 --> 01:22:17.880
feels to me. And look,
I don't live in Baltimore, I don't
1115
01:22:17.880 --> 01:22:20.520
live in Philadelphia, I don't live
in southern California. I don't live in
1116
01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:25.079
any other market, but it feels
to me like there is a hyper focus.
1117
01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:28.880
I didn't see it because I was
about to come back on the air,
1118
01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:30.399
but I saw on the pat MC
if you showed today a segment about
1119
01:22:30.479 --> 01:22:34.520
Joe Burrow maybe taking less like it
feels like this is a Joe Burrow talking
1120
01:22:34.600 --> 01:22:38.079
point, but it's not a talking
point for any of these other guys.
1121
01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:41.279
And by the way, some of
these quarterbacks haven't won as much as Joe
1122
01:22:41.319 --> 01:22:44.640
Burrow. Some of these quarterbacks aren't
playing for organizations that are as good as
1123
01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:46.840
the one that Joe Burrow plays for. Right now. Yeah, and Rich
1124
01:22:46.920 --> 01:22:50.720
Eisen had a good clip on it
yesterday. I just you know, and
1125
01:22:51.960 --> 01:22:56.800
I love the Bengals media corps.
Like Katie has said, we're not going
1126
01:22:56.840 --> 01:22:59.680
to talk about it, and Joe
said yesterday we're not going to talk about
1127
01:22:59.680 --> 01:23:01.640
it. There should be a dead
issue now until the press conference comes up
1128
01:23:01.680 --> 01:23:04.600
that says to decide. Yeah,
I mean, at this stage, if
1129
01:23:04.960 --> 01:23:09.640
Joe is asked about this when he
talks again in July and the deal is
1130
01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:13.199
still not done, the answers are
probably not going to change. And that's
1131
01:23:13.399 --> 01:23:15.600
as a fan, that's exactly what
you want. You got to ask the
1132
01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:18.439
question. It is a topic until
it's not. But neither side is going
1133
01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:21.239
to tip their hands. Neither side
is going to make the negotiation the public
1134
01:23:21.319 --> 01:23:25.640
one. And look, the Bengals
have a long history of if you want
1135
01:23:25.680 --> 01:23:30.199
to negotiate publicly, go for it. We're not going to participate. Yeah,
1136
01:23:30.279 --> 01:23:32.199
And I think you know the other
last point. The other two factors
1137
01:23:32.239 --> 01:23:35.800
of play are. Number one,
the Watson contract was an outlier. Nobody's
1138
01:23:35.800 --> 01:23:40.279
going to get one hundred percent guaranteed
ever. Again, and Lamar didn't have
1139
01:23:40.359 --> 01:23:44.800
an agent, and if he saved
three to five percent into his own pocket,
1140
01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:48.720
good for him that the NFLPA was
completely one hundred percent behind him trying
1141
01:23:48.720 --> 01:23:53.920
to get one hundred percent guaranteed.
Sorry, guys, that's just not happening
1142
01:23:53.960 --> 01:23:57.600
anymore, not at all. No, Jeff, Jeff, thanks so much.
1143
01:23:57.720 --> 01:24:01.840
I just whatever whatever Joe signs for, he signs for. And I
1144
01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:06.880
believe Joe and his agent and the
Bengals will get creative enough that the new
1145
01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:13.760
deal, whatever the structure of it
is, isn't a complete obstacle to keeping
1146
01:24:13.800 --> 01:24:15.920
the team good, keeping the team
relevant. But I mean the onus is
1147
01:24:15.960 --> 01:24:19.760
on the front office. The onus
isn't on Joe Burrow. The onus is
1148
01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:25.960
not on the employee. Again,
my life ain't going to be impacted whether
1149
01:24:26.039 --> 01:24:29.239
or not Joe Burrow signs for forty
six million year or fifty four million year,
1150
01:24:29.319 --> 01:24:33.960
somewhere in between, or somewhere much
much higher. But a whole lot
1151
01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:36.920
of folks who seem to be willing
to tell Joe Burrow what he should take
1152
01:24:36.960 --> 01:24:42.119
and what he shouldn't take. And
nobody's business man. And you know to
1153
01:24:42.199 --> 01:24:45.359
me, they know you want to
talk about Tom Brady, This team friendly
1154
01:24:45.479 --> 01:24:48.039
guy. Okay, team friendly guy. You got people in media getting whacked
1155
01:24:48.119 --> 01:24:54.039
left and right. Why not shaved
two hundred mill off what he's due when
1156
01:24:54.039 --> 01:24:58.359
he's already made a bunch and throw
that into the pool to keep some employees
1157
01:25:00.760 --> 01:25:04.279
that should be talked about more than
what Joe Burrow's gonna get. Twenty two,
1158
01:25:04.520 --> 01:25:08.960
twenty one, after five o'clock five
on three seven four nine, fifteen
1159
01:25:09.039 --> 01:25:13.319
thirty and eight six six seven O
two three seven seven six. This is
1160
01:25:13.560 --> 01:25:17.159
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
It is twenty five minutes after five o'clock.
1161
01:25:17.359 --> 01:25:21.640
This is ESPN fifteen thirty. My
name is Maegger. Thank you so
1162
01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:28.239
much for joining us. This is
the Neutral Happy Hour. By the way,
1163
01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:32.079
dude, look at it outside.
The last couple of days weren't great.
1164
01:25:32.079 --> 01:25:35.600
Today has been just magnificent. One
of those days, Tarn should have
1165
01:25:35.640 --> 01:25:40.600
set us up with a chance to
do the show from outside. But I
1166
01:25:40.680 --> 01:25:44.000
don't know. I mean, you're
you're getting off work, Go go outside,
1167
01:25:44.680 --> 01:25:46.239
get a Neutral, find a place
where you could, you know,
1168
01:25:46.399 --> 01:25:50.680
have a have a drink outside and
order a Neutral. Or if you're on
1169
01:25:50.760 --> 01:25:56.239
your way home, stop by your
favorite convenience store, grocery store, liquor
1170
01:25:56.319 --> 01:26:00.800
store, gas station, pony keg, drive through, wherever you buy liquid
1171
01:26:00.840 --> 01:26:04.199
refreshment. Pick up a Neutral.
By the way, now an orange flavor
1172
01:26:05.079 --> 01:26:11.479
perfect for summertime. It's the one
with the umlaut Neutral vodka Seltzer, the
1173
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very best vodka Seltzer I have ever
had. Neutral. You will love it.
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Twenty seven after five o'clock, Rads
are losing the eleven to five in
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01:26:23.560 --> 01:26:27.199
the bottom I'm Tom sorry. Top
of the eighth inning, Cincinnati is batting.
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01:26:27.399 --> 01:26:29.479
Luke Manley's had a good game with
a homer and a devil. He's
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01:26:29.520 --> 01:26:34.159
at the plate with two guys on
and two outs, so Red's with an
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01:26:34.239 --> 01:26:39.199
uphill battle and trying to avoid losing
a series in Denver before they come home
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01:26:39.279 --> 01:26:43.880
to play the non cheater Aaron Judge
and the New York Yankees this weekend and
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01:26:44.159 --> 01:26:50.520
my expectation. I've heard they're expecting
terrific crowds to GABP this weekend. I
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01:26:50.640 --> 01:26:56.800
was thinking about this today talking with
Paul Danner Jr. And Jay Morrison for
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01:26:56.880 --> 01:27:01.600
their podcast which they recorded today.
They usually have me on every single week.
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01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:09.840
I'm not really sure why, but
we went through the over unders in
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01:27:09.960 --> 01:27:13.520
the AFC North, which at most
books, Bengals are at eleven and a
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01:27:13.560 --> 01:27:15.279
half, Baltimore is at nine and
a half, Pittsburgh's at eight and a
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01:27:15.319 --> 01:27:19.920
half, Cleveland's at nine and a
half, and we guessed over under.
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But we also ranked from one to
four which ones we were most confident in
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01:27:25.239 --> 01:27:29.840
and least confident in. And I
will let you listen to their podcast to
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get the full details. But we
started talking about the quality of the AFC
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North and you know, here really
is the interesting part of the Bengal season.
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The expectations this year, for my
money are higher than last year because
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01:27:45.720 --> 01:27:51.439
last seasons as much as a lot
of us. I certainly did through cold
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01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:56.640
water all over the idea that the
Bengals the previous year had been flukey.
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01:27:57.399 --> 01:28:00.199
There was the element of, god, you know what, can they do
1195
01:28:00.319 --> 01:28:04.279
it again? And they didn't,
They didn't get back to the super Bowl.
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01:28:04.399 --> 01:28:15.760
But there was not a skepticism but
a sense of I'm not sure I'm
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01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:18.560
quite yet ready to count on this
team, because yes they had a great
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01:28:18.680 --> 01:28:21.520
year, and yes they had a
great run, but are they really there
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yet? Are they can they really? Can they really get better than they
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01:28:26.920 --> 01:28:30.279
were last year? Which they did? Can? Can they can? They?
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01:28:30.520 --> 01:28:32.119
Can they really? You know?
What if what if there are injuries?
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01:28:32.159 --> 01:28:35.600
What if they're not quite as fortunate
as they were in the postseason last
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01:28:35.680 --> 01:28:39.840
year? Were they flew? Key? That that those elements were there and
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01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:44.279
some overstated those elements. But those
elements were there. This year, they're
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01:28:44.359 --> 01:28:48.800
none of that. They're they'n't established
good NFL team back to back AFC Championship
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01:28:48.840 --> 01:28:54.680
game appearances and the core of that
team is still there, even though there
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01:28:54.760 --> 01:28:58.479
have been some departures this year.
The expectations when you go to back to
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01:28:58.560 --> 01:29:01.640
back AFC Championship games, when you
lose the Super Bowl and the AFC Championship
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01:29:01.640 --> 01:29:06.840
Game in consecutive years in heartbreaking fashion, that the only thing that makes it.
1210
01:29:06.960 --> 01:29:10.760
The only thing you can do now
is win the title. Right.
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01:29:11.520 --> 01:29:14.640
That doesn't necessarily mean that if the
Bengals got to the Super Bowl and loss
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01:29:14.680 --> 01:29:16.600
that it would be a failure of
a season. But I do think going
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01:29:16.680 --> 01:29:24.079
into this season there's more of a
super Bowl or bust feel then has ever
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01:29:24.159 --> 01:29:29.119
been the case in the history of
this franchise. And I do think,
1215
01:29:29.239 --> 01:29:32.720
by the way, that if the
Bengals come close and fail again that the
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01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:38.079
reaction is going to be a little
bit different than it was each of the
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01:29:38.199 --> 01:29:44.000
last two years. The money that
Burrow is going to be making moving forward
1218
01:29:44.039 --> 01:29:46.960
will we'll hang over all of this. The expectations, though, are massive,
1219
01:29:47.840 --> 01:29:51.159
and by the way, that's great, man. I don't want to
1220
01:29:51.239 --> 01:29:54.319
root for off the radar teams.
I want to be on the radar.
1221
01:29:54.319 --> 01:29:56.680
I want to matter, I want
to be relevant. I want the expectations
1222
01:29:56.760 --> 01:29:59.840
to be huge. By the way
that the regular season expectations for me are,
1223
01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:04.479
Tiger, because you know, I
have very very most of us,
1224
01:30:04.880 --> 01:30:09.399
I think you'd say the same thing. It's been very infrequent that we have
1225
01:30:09.439 --> 01:30:13.000
talked about the Bengals in terms beyond
winning the division or making the postseason.
1226
01:30:13.119 --> 01:30:15.239
Now it's dude, get the one
seed. Man be the highest seed he
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01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:18.800
can possibly be. Play as many
home games as you possibly can, ideally
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01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:26.439
miss that first weekend. At the
same time, look at the Gauntlet.
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01:30:26.600 --> 01:30:30.239
And I'm not just talking about the
schedule. If the Bengals get back to
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01:30:30.319 --> 01:30:33.399
the super Bowl this year, think
about what they will have survived. Think
1231
01:30:33.439 --> 01:30:36.840
about what they will have beaten.
First of all, they're in a division
1232
01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:43.079
right now that has two Super Bowl
coaches. Every coach in the AFC North
1233
01:30:43.119 --> 01:30:45.800
has won a playoff game, Every
team in the NFL today, every team
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01:30:45.840 --> 01:30:50.640
in the AFC North today and this
division today knows who their quarterback is going
1235
01:30:50.680 --> 01:30:54.600
to be and has a pretty good
sense of who their quarterback is going to
1236
01:30:54.640 --> 01:30:58.000
be moving forward. Lamar is the
guy in Baltimore. Deshaun Watson's the guy
1237
01:30:58.159 --> 01:31:01.800
in Cleveland. I don't know if
will say the same thing about Kenny Pickett
1238
01:31:01.800 --> 01:31:04.680
in Pittsburgh, but I think they
feel pretty good about him, and deservedly
1239
01:31:04.760 --> 01:31:13.159
so. So you have quarterback stability, you have coaches with track records,
1240
01:31:13.520 --> 01:31:17.159
you have a former MVP in Baltimore. You have an MVP favorite in Cincinnati.
1241
01:31:18.479 --> 01:31:21.760
You have I don't think any of
these teams have had bad off seasons.
1242
01:31:23.600 --> 01:31:27.720
Now I'm not a big believer in
the Ravens offensively, but none of
1243
01:31:27.800 --> 01:31:30.359
them have bad, bad off seasons. You might say, well, look,
1244
01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:34.039
the Browns win the offseason every single
year, but their team is not
1245
01:31:34.199 --> 01:31:36.720
worse than it was last year.
And by the way, last year's team
1246
01:31:36.760 --> 01:31:42.520
won seven games and beat pretty badly
the Bengals head to head with a backup
1247
01:31:42.640 --> 01:31:47.039
quarterback. Pittsburgh's had a good off
season. The Ravens aren't worse. From
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01:31:47.079 --> 01:31:53.880
a roster perspective, you will have
potentially survived this hilacious division. People should
1249
01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:57.439
talk about the AFC North this year
the way a lot of us talked about
1250
01:31:57.479 --> 01:32:00.199
the AFC West before the season last
year. So you get through that,
1251
01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:06.159
then you're in this golden age of
quarterbacks in the AFC that includes a two
1252
01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:11.560
time MVP Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, a future Hall of Famer, the
1253
01:32:11.640 --> 01:32:16.439
two time MVP obviously being Patrick Mahomes, justin Herbert Trevor Lawrence. That's just
1254
01:32:16.680 --> 01:32:27.319
this half of the league. For
expectations to be met or exceeded what the
1255
01:32:27.479 --> 01:32:33.319
Bengals will have accomplished would be remarkable. And you know what, I think
1256
01:32:33.359 --> 01:32:39.319
it can happen, just like you
could throw all that out there. How
1257
01:32:39.439 --> 01:32:45.119
tough the division is, the just
insanely competitive nature of the AFC, all
1258
01:32:45.159 --> 01:32:47.760
the great quarterbacks, you know,
I mean, would you expect Denver to
1259
01:32:47.840 --> 01:32:51.279
be better this year with Sean Payton? Yeah? I mean I think so.
1260
01:32:54.039 --> 01:32:57.479
We did this last year and talked
about the AFC. You can do
1261
01:32:57.560 --> 01:33:01.560
it to an even larger degree now. So yeah, man, the expectations
1262
01:33:01.760 --> 01:33:06.319
are massive, and that is awesome. That is a credit to what the
1263
01:33:06.359 --> 01:33:14.000
Bengals have done. But you'll have
to at least acknowledge that the field and
1264
01:33:14.199 --> 01:33:21.600
what they have in front of them, the degree of difficulty is insane.
1265
01:33:25.680 --> 01:33:28.520
And yet if you're like me,
you probably still like their chances. Twenty
1266
01:33:28.600 --> 01:33:34.079
six away from six o'clock, Kevin
Egan from Apple TV's MLS coverage on tonight's
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01:33:34.119 --> 01:33:40.600
big FC Cincinnati tilt coming up in
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chev dot Com Rockies lead the Reds
eleven to five. In the top of
1271
01:33:53.920 --> 01:33:58.239
the ninth inning. Graham Ashcraft had
a five nothing lead, then gave up
1272
01:33:58.319 --> 01:34:01.680
seven runs. Lucas Simms then aim
and gave up four. Colorado scored eleven
1273
01:34:01.760 --> 01:34:05.039
times without the benefit of a Homer. Luke Mailey did hit his second dong
1274
01:34:05.159 --> 01:34:11.479
for Cincinnati. Why don't we call
him dongs? I like dings, dingers,
1275
01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:14.960
dingers like it? Why some I
just did it? Why? How
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01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:19.560
come some refer to Homer's as dongs? When did that start? Tarn I
1277
01:34:19.640 --> 01:34:23.359
need you to do that investigatory working. Get back to me on Friday,
1278
01:34:24.520 --> 01:34:31.359
Google dongs. Maybe not the working, don't Maybe just don't do that and
1279
01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:36.159
just ask ask a Siri or somebody. Why do they call Homer's dons?
1280
01:34:38.119 --> 01:34:43.359
I asked the Aidea the chat GP
that thing. Yeah, Nicolodolo Um,
1281
01:34:43.720 --> 01:34:45.760
he is dealing with a stress reaction
in his left tibia. He is going
1282
01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:50.560
to be reevaluated in a couple of
weeks. That malady was revealed on an
1283
01:34:50.720 --> 01:34:57.199
MRI on Monday, FC Cincinnati Tonight
hosting CF Montreal. Game starts at seven
1284
01:34:57.319 --> 01:35:00.399
thirty. Coverage from the stadium on
the West end of Cincinnati was starting at
1285
01:35:00.680 --> 01:35:05.479
seven o'clock in the Cincinnati Bengals today
announced the dates, the dates and times
1286
01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:11.800
for their twenty twenty three preseason games. They will start the preseason on Friday
1287
01:35:11.880 --> 01:35:16.680
night, August the eleventh, with
a home tilt against the Green Bay Packers.
1288
01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:21.600
I had this in front of me
and I have lost it. I
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01:35:21.960 --> 01:35:27.319
could not be more disorganized today and
I don't know why, but I did
1290
01:35:27.479 --> 01:35:30.279
memorize ere. It is Bengals twenty
twenty three preseason schedule. Write these down.
1291
01:35:30.399 --> 01:35:35.479
Bengals Packers Friday night, August eleventh, Bengals at Atlanta Friday night,
1292
01:35:35.520 --> 01:35:44.319
August eighteenth, and Bengals at Commanders
on Saturday afternoon, August the twenty sixth.
1293
01:35:44.800 --> 01:35:45.960
None of those, by the way, if you care, are nationally
1294
01:35:46.079 --> 01:35:51.439
televised games. Uh. Let's see
what else. Oh, speaking of the
1295
01:35:51.560 --> 01:35:57.359
NFL, that's subject of our poll
question today. Service of backslet Tractor in
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Batavia and seamen at a backslattractor dot
com. The NFL is reportedly set to
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01:36:02.840 --> 01:36:09.960
put up twenty twenty three playoff game
on Peacock. Now this is worth mentioning.
1298
01:36:11.479 --> 01:36:17.239
It's going to be, according to
Sports Business Journal, the Saturday night
1299
01:36:17.359 --> 01:36:20.279
playoff game. So the last couple
of years there have been two games on
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01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:26.239
Saturday, three on Sunday, one
on Money Wildcard weekend. That Saturday night
1301
01:36:26.279 --> 01:36:30.479
game is reportedly set to be aired
on Peacock, which is a streaming service.
1302
01:36:30.600 --> 01:36:32.800
Now, let's say, for instance, the Bengals are in that game.
1303
01:36:33.520 --> 01:36:36.680
Locally, the game would air on
over the air television channel five,
1304
01:36:38.359 --> 01:36:42.920
the NBC affiliate. So that's the
good news. And maybe you already subscribe
1305
01:36:42.960 --> 01:36:47.920
to Peacock. I don't, and
frankly have no interest. Like I just
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01:36:48.079 --> 01:36:51.800
there's a point. I subscribe to
a lot of stuff. I'm good man.
1307
01:36:53.319 --> 01:36:56.079
And if that means I miss another
The Reds are on eleven thirty on
1308
01:36:56.159 --> 01:36:58.960
Sunday morning. If I miss Sunday
morning baseball, I miss Sunday morning.
1309
01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:02.159
I just there's lots of other streaming
services that I likes, some of which
1310
01:37:02.199 --> 01:37:05.840
my daughter likes, some of which
my wife. I just enough enough,
1311
01:37:06.960 --> 01:37:13.079
So I want to know, because
the NFL and the folks at peacock or
1312
01:37:13.199 --> 01:37:17.880
are betting on this, will you
subscribe to a streaming service that you don't
1313
01:37:17.920 --> 01:37:23.000
already subscribe to? And again,
you might already subscribe to Peacock. Would
1314
01:37:23.039 --> 01:37:27.239
you subscribe to a streaming service you
don't already subscribe to just to watch an
1315
01:37:27.399 --> 01:37:32.479
NFL playoff game? Vote now at
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talk about tonight's FC Cincinnati Tilts with
Kevin Egan from Apple. Next, Hey,
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01:38:00.800 --> 01:38:06.239
Alexa, what's going on in baseball? Get well thirty from iHeartRadio.
1323
01:38:08.239 --> 01:38:12.159
The Red's loss to the Rockies had
just ended eleven to six. They loaded
1324
01:38:12.199 --> 01:38:15.079
the basses, They scored a run
and loaded the basses with one out in
1325
01:38:15.159 --> 01:38:18.319
the ninth inning, and then Will
Myers popped out and Jose Berrero made the
1326
01:38:18.399 --> 01:38:24.439
last out Resolue seven six. They
have won. They have won one series
1327
01:38:24.479 --> 01:38:27.960
in Denver since twenty twelve. They
were up five nothing in this game heading
1328
01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:32.119
to the bottom of the fifth inning. Also, Adrian Woznarowski reports that Kelvin
1329
01:38:32.159 --> 01:38:35.840
Sampson, Houston's coach, is interviewing
to be the Bucks head coach. I'm
1330
01:38:35.920 --> 01:38:41.520
rooting for that to happen. I'm
rooting for FC Cincinnati tonight, Kevin Ken
1331
01:38:41.600 --> 01:38:46.039
Even Kevin Egan from an Apple TV
is hosting MLS three sixty tonight. He
1332
01:38:46.159 --> 01:38:49.680
is in the studio called the match
that I've seen Cincinnati played at home against
1333
01:38:49.720 --> 01:38:56.920
Portland back on April to twenty.
How did you like that experience? I
1334
01:38:57.119 --> 01:38:59.560
sound like I'm just saying this to
you because I'm on the radio with you,
1335
01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:01.680
but it's my favorite place. It's
my favorite place to go in Major
1336
01:39:01.800 --> 01:39:06.439
League soccer. Yeah, it is
because the fans bring it. I mean,
1337
01:39:06.640 --> 01:39:11.359
you're talking about six straight home winds
now on the bounce, but it's
1338
01:39:11.399 --> 01:39:15.680
also six straight sellouts. You know, I think one of them was technically
1339
01:39:15.840 --> 01:39:18.359
not a sellout. It was still
well over twenty five thousand. And you're
1340
01:39:18.399 --> 01:39:24.880
talking about like raucous electric fans in
the bailey and the march to the stadium,
1341
01:39:25.199 --> 01:39:28.600
the fact that the pitch is so
good you can see the city from
1342
01:39:28.640 --> 01:39:33.359
the broadcast booth as a as a
broadcaster, the booth is perfect and everybody
1343
01:39:33.399 --> 01:39:38.119
there so friendly. So I love
going to Cincinnati. It's my favorite stadium
1344
01:39:38.159 --> 01:39:40.880
to go to. And then when
the team can perform the way they're doing,
1345
01:39:41.279 --> 01:39:45.119
with the fun type of soccer that
they're playing under pat Noonan, it's
1346
01:39:45.199 --> 01:39:46.640
it's a real joy, honestly.
You know, again, I say I
1347
01:39:46.720 --> 01:39:49.479
sound like I'm saying this because I'm
on the radio with you in Cincinnati,
1348
01:39:49.600 --> 01:39:53.560
but it's it's what I've been saying
to all my broadcast colleagues around the league.
1349
01:39:53.760 --> 01:39:57.079
It doesn't at all sound patronizing.
And and it's interesting because I hear
1350
01:39:57.079 --> 01:40:00.039
a lot of folks in your capacity
say the same thing. And I and
1351
01:40:00.159 --> 01:40:03.800
when this club was introduced in twenty
sixteen in the United Soccer League at a
1352
01:40:03.880 --> 01:40:09.439
different venue, you know, people
gravitated toward it and the atmosphere was incredible.
1353
01:40:09.720 --> 01:40:12.880
And then they get the stadium built
and the stadium is terrific, and
1354
01:40:13.159 --> 01:40:15.079
then I'm thinking, Okay, well
this is all well and good. At
1355
01:40:15.159 --> 01:40:18.319
some point, you know, that
has to take a back seat to what
1356
01:40:18.479 --> 01:40:21.960
is actually happening on the field.
And now maybe that's not the case,
1357
01:40:23.000 --> 01:40:28.159
because you're getting this perfect marriage of
great venue, enthusiastic fans and one of
1358
01:40:28.199 --> 01:40:31.039
the best teams in the league,
and that is absolutely perfect. Yeah,
1359
01:40:31.039 --> 01:40:33.279
and I think I think a lot
of credit has to go to ownership for
1360
01:40:33.600 --> 01:40:40.039
the realization that the way the team
started was pretty horrific with you know,
1361
01:40:40.159 --> 01:40:43.239
obviously, the points totals are well
documented, back to back to back last
1362
01:40:43.279 --> 01:40:46.640
place finishes, but the recognition then
of Okay, how do Philadelphia do it,
1363
01:40:46.720 --> 01:40:49.960
what sort of success that they had
and why, and then the recruitment
1364
01:40:50.039 --> 01:40:55.359
of the gentlemen that are in charge
now, you know, like all Bryce
1365
01:40:55.920 --> 01:40:59.000
with the technical side of things,
and then noon and as the head coach,
1366
01:40:59.079 --> 01:41:03.079
Pat Nowton's assist since are all really
experienced guys like Tom Keineer. I
1367
01:41:03.159 --> 01:41:05.119
think I said this to you before, Moo. You know, if you're
1368
01:41:05.119 --> 01:41:09.880
a young coach forty two years of
age like Pat Noonan and you're comfortable enough
1369
01:41:09.880 --> 01:41:13.359
with in your own skin to have
a two time MLS Cup winning coach as
1370
01:41:13.399 --> 01:41:16.239
your assistance, that says a lot
about your confidence in your character. And
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that's that's kind of who Pat Noonan
is here, you know, and I
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have to give him a lot An
awful lot of credit. Twenty four points
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already into this season, second in
the Eastern Conference right there with New England.
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It's been a it's been a brilliant
start. And now it's intriguing with
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Cincinnati because I'm eager to see what
they do with Brenner departing this summer and
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how they play with that money that
they're bringing in from out an Aza.
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They still need a goal scorer and
and and his departure is going to amplify
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that. And you and I talked
about this before the Portland match, which
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was you know, about a month
ago, four weeks ago, and we
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talked about their ability to win low
goal games. They've gotten a little bit
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more out of out of their offense. That has to continue. And you're
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right to me, that's the storyline
of the summer. What do they do
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to booster goal scoring once once Brenner's
gone. Yeah, it's it's it's a
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big story. You know. I
think looking at the way the team is
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set up, like Brenner isn't exactly
your you know, your Kai Kamara style
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attacking the sixth I think I think
you could do with another striker to play
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off what Alvaro Barrial has given you. You know, he's been excellent on
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the left hand side in this system
that Pat Newton plays. He is your
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wide guy who's going to stay wide. He's got a brilliant left foot,
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whips in great, great balls.
You know, the night I was on
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commentary in the match against Portland,
it was it was a sublime delivery from
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Barrial for Sergio Santos, who's been
a real bright spark since joining the club.
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And I think a lot of fans
weren't too pleased and armored with Sergio
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Santos in joining, but he has
been a success story so far this season,
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and I think playing playing off the
strength that the team has out wide
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could really benefit Cincinnatise. Brendon Basque
is decent at that, but he's not
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a killer in that sense. Un
even look at what Kai Kamara is doing
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at his later year, you know, in his later years at Chicago at
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attacking those near post areas. That's
an area that I feel with the with
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the Cincinnati have they could really drive. Playing a Montreal team tonight that we're
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about a third of the way through
the slate. They've they've either won or
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lost every single one of their matches, there's no middle ground, there's no
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draws. What's good what's not so
good about the team that have seen Cincinnati
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plays tonight. The thing about Montreal
is nobody predicted they do anything this year.
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They lose Mihailovich, their best creator. Last season, they lose their
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coach, Wilford Nancy, and they
played such an identifiable form of soccer under
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Nanci and they lose him. Then
they start the season in the most horrific
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way. Now they've won six games
on the belts in all competitions for the
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first time since the club joined MLS
back in twenty twelve. So you have
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a Cincinnati side tonight, And if
you're if you're listening in your car right
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now and you're debate gone to this
game, go because Cincinnati at home have
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an electric top class. Then you've
got a Montreal side who are coming in
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flying with confidence. Right now.
They've won six games on the bounce,
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including back to back victories against their
biggest rival, Toronto vote in MLS play
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and in Cup play. So what
breaks tonight? This is what it comes
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down to tonight. I really,
I'm really intrigued to say, to see
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how this game plays out. The
CV because Montreal, while they don't light
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it up on the paper, you
look at their team sheet and you're like,
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man, I don't know where these
wins are coming from. Under Hernan
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Lasada, with some of the quality
that they've managed to recruit, like Bryce
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Duke, they're aside that the play
attracted football and they'll take the game to
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Montreal and they're incredibly comfortable with in
their own skin. Kevin Egan is with
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us hosting MLS three sixty tonight for
an Apple TV part of MLS Season Pass.
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I know you have a long night
to prepare for. I appreciate you
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Carving had a few minutes worth of
this afternoon. We'll be watching tonight,
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man, Thanks so much, my
pleasure, great chat, which is always
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and good luck to Cincinnati tonight.
Get out there and go watch your team.
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Apple TV's Kevin Egan. Of course, the match tonight on ESP fifteen
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thirty, with our coverage starting from
the West end of Cincinnati at seven o'clock.
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I am pretty much done. I
am off tomorrow celebrating my daughter's sixth
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birthday. James Rapine will be filling
in. I am back on Friday afternoon.
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Thank you so much for listening.
Thanks to Tarn Bland for producing.
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This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports
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