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to get to today. Later on this hour, our buddy
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Chad Brundle's going to join us from a Bearcat journal
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on last night's You See when fueled by dodgeball, the
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Bearcats had to start somewhere, had to start somewhere. I
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don't know that I'm ready to tell you that they're
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on the verge of making a run. I don't know
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that I'm going to tell you that I've even checked
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what the metrics say about where they are and their
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NCAA tournament chances. I haven't done any of that. I
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don't care about any of that right now. I care
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about them playing better basketball, not just for a night.
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The good news, though, is last night they played good basketball.
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They played the brand of basketball I thought we'd see
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all season long. More on that coming up in just
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a bit. If I wanted to, and you might argue,
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this would be better content, But if I wanted to,
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and if I truly had time, I could spend the
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entire show playing Joe Burrow audio from the myriad of
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shows that he has been on. He's been on a
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bunch today making the rounds at Radio Row, and which
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is is awesome. It's it's content, and it's I think
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it's content that we all care about. I've got some
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of it for you here that we're going to play
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in just a second. I have I have two basic
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thoughts on just the Burrow part of this. Right, there's
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the Bengals part of this, which is what are they
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gonna do with this offseason? What are they gonna do
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with t Higgins and Trey Hendricks and Jamar Chase and
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all their free agents? And we're gonna get to all
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of that. But there are two basic thoughts I have.
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One of them is more of a question to you
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if you're a long time Cincinnati sports fan, more than anything.
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Before I get to those two things, let's play some
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of the Joe Burrow audio, and again you named the
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national platform in New Orleans. He went on to today,
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I have no idea what he was plugging, nor do
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I care. I'm not being paid to mention it. He wasn't.
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He wasn't plugging anything.
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Oh, he did this volunteer, on his volunteer.
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He did this on his own. See that's it. So
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he wasn't there on behalf of a product.
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Nope. He's there in a white playing white T shirt.
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But like at the end, he's not plugging headphones or
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grocery stores. Now that is interesting. That is interesting, all right,
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Well that that's actually that actually throws a different dynamic
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into this entire thing. All right, So Joe's down there
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and he's doing all the big national shows down there
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in New Orleans for Radio Row. And so the audio
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we're gonna play for you is from a first take,
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which is that show that Steven A. Smith is on,
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and he got Shannon Sharp, and he got Molly Molly Kierram,
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Molly Quorum, Molly Kiarum, you got Chris mad Dog Russo
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and some other folks, and and so here is Joe
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reiterating what he has been in a bang in the
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table for on huh banging the table, what he has
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been talking about for a while, which is he thinks
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the Bengals can gets done with everybody. Go ahead and
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play the audio.
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I got a problem with your team, though, I got
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a problem with the fact that five of the last
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six years y'all started out oh to two and in
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the month of September, I've.
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That's not the right one. That's okay, that's okay, we'll
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play that one later. Because Joe's answer to that is important.
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That's an important theme. But now here's here's the one
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we meant to play this. This worked in rehearsal.
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Uh.
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Here's Joe talking about, Yeah, we can we can sign everybody.
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This is Cincinnati now, I mean, this is that ownership.
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You confident that they're gonna be They're gonna be willing
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to keep all of those guys.
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The cap is going up each year, we just got
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new TV deals, continue to go on money.
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We're laughing at them.
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You know, we're we all want to stay together, so
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we're all going to do what it takes to do that.
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And you know, we have great players that have done
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great things and deserve to be paid. They're going to
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be paid what they're worth, whether we do it or
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somebody else. I hope we do it. I think you know,
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we've had the discussions that the guys are gonna get
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paid that need to get paid, and so it's a
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it's a big offseason for the Bengals.
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He's right about that. Can get cue that up for
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again for a second there, Terry, have you ever been
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in a situation like that where you're asked a question,
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you give the answer, and as you're giving it, everybody
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just starts laughing at you. This has happened to me
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on god knows how many occasions. Uh, that audio that's
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this is if you're Joe Burrow, this is not a
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very comfortable place to be hit that audio against.
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I mean, this is that ownership. You confident that they're
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gonna be They're gonna be willing to.
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Keep all of those guys.
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The cap is going up each year. We just got
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new TV deals, go on laughing at them, and you know,
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we're we all want to stay together, so we're all
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going to do what it takes to do that. And
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you know, we have great players that have done great
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things and deserve to be paid. They're going to be
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paid what they're worth, whether we do it or somebody else.
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I hope we do it.
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I think you know, we've had the discussions that the
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guys are gonna get paid that need to get paid.
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And so it's a big off season for the Bengals.
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So there you go, Joe Burrow on first take today.
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There's a couple of important points there, and at the
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end of the day, we're all sort of wishing and
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we're all sort of guessing, and to a degree, not
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that many people are speaking with a tremendous amount of
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certainty as it relates to some of the things that
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the Bengals have to do this offseason. But he said
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a couple of things that are pretty important there. One is,
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we're all gonna do what it takes. We're all gonna
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do what it takes. Now what it takes specifically, your
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guess is as good as mine. But you know, we
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can draw conclusions, and I think they are fair conclusions
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to draw. We're all gonna do what it takes. Well,
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what it takes might be take less, take less than
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you might be able to ordinarily force the Bengals to
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pay you, or less than you might be able to
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get elsewhere, or less than you're due right now now,
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or work under a different contract structure than you're working
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under right now. That's that's interesting. And again, all you
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could do is listen to Joe's words and and and
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arrive at certain conclusions. We're not going to get conclusions
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for a couple of weeks. But he also talked about
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we've had discussions, so you know, you come back to
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something we talked about on December the ninth and tenth,
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which is, you know, when the Bengals played the Cowboys
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and everybody kind of forgets about the game. And we
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remember the post game when Joe reignited the conversation about
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t Higgins, many of us wondered, like, is Joe talking
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from a place of information? Well, again, what what you
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you have where we've had discussions? Would suggest, Hey, we've talked,
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we've we've had discussions, We've we've outlined what has to
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happen with each other, and so now I'm comfortable talking
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about this publicly. And again, you you are, I think
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foolish if if you're going to try to speak definitively
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about what's gonna happen either way. But you do also
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have to ask yourself like, this is Joe Burrow. This
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is a smart guy. This is the guy who knows
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what the questions are going to be right by now
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he goes on first take or any of these other shows,
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he knows what he's gonna be asked about. He's gonna
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be asked about Tea and Jamar and Trey and keeping
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the band together and signing guys in the Bengals history
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with money and the Bengals reputation sometimes undeserved for being cheap.
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Like he knows what's coming. He knows what the questions are,
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He's had time to think about the answers, and so
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you're gonna get a well thought out answer. Among the
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well thought out answers were phrases like quote, we're all
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gonna do what it takes, and quote we've had conversations,
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and those conversations have apparently put Joe in a place
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where he's comfortable saying what he's saying. You could take
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that way, or you could say, well, they've had conversations,
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Joe's not hearing what he wants, and so now he's
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just gonna go turn the pressure up even more. I
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don't know what to believe. I don't know. Here's what
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I do know that I've never seen anybody in the
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history of Cincinnati sports do this legitimately, man, And if
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I'm ignoring someone or forgetting someone. We've seen athletes try
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to flex their muscle. We've seen athletes try to force
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their way out. We've heard athletes state their preference about
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what they would like to see the team do. I
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can't recall I can't recall anybody ever doing this. I
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can't recall anybody really being in a position to do
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this like Joe Burrow but I can't recall anybody doing this,
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even Lucho Acosta. Luco Acosta to Laurel Faylor, who's going
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to join us at four thirty three, basically didn't. Basically
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he threw his team's general manager under the bus. I
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mean that is unlike anything I've ever seen. But here
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you have a guy famous, one of the faces of
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the sport, at the top of his craft, tons of respect,
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uber popular, and the dude is publicly and vocally throwing
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his weight around and flexing his muscle and making people uncomfortable.
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And that's to me the best part of this, regardless
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of how this unfolds with Tea specifically, but also Trey
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and even Jamar, He's making people uncomfortable. I'm here for it.
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More on that in just a minute. The bear Cat
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game last night, I just want to see them bottle
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the way they played, right. The takeaway from the game
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on Sunday wasn't that they lost, wasn't that they lost
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by a fair amount of points. It wasn't what the
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loss sent their record to. It was what that looked like,
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how unbear Cat like it was, how unlike it was
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anything we thought we were going to see. The season
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was just getting underway. It was how they played. The
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takeaway last night is not that they won, although that's
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obviously important, it's not okay, well, you know, you know,
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maybe they're not dead yet. Perhaps you now they're back
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to being on the bump quad one win like that
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stuff matters, But it doesn't matter to me right now,
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because if we're gonna start talking about that stuff, it's
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only really gonna happen if they start to win games,
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right games, if they start to stack wins, win a
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lot of games in a short amount of time. The
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only way that happens for me, at least is if
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they play a certain way. It's not just play hard,
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it's a style. What I saw from the Bearcats last night.
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Maybe UCF isn't very good, but what I saw from
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the Bearcats last night is the style that I thought
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I was gonna see back in October. What I saw
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last night was a team that ran and dunked and
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put pressure on the defense and wasn't standing there having
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one of the point guards just pal nails for twenty
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seconds while everybody stands there. They initiated the offense quickly,
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They got good shots, they made shots, they defended the
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three very well. Every time UCF did something, the Bearcats
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had an answer. The point guards last night were terrific.
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Dayda Thomas. A year ago, at this time, Dada Thomas
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was like public enemy number one for Bearcat fans. He
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put the team on his back in the first half
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last night. They might not have won that game without
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his performance in the first half last night. The second
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half was not all about Gigsel James. He had plenty
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of help from his teammates, but it was a lot
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about Gigsel James. Just give me that, give me that,
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give me that effort, give me that style, give me
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that brand, give me that bottle that and apply it
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over the next nine games. Will they win them all?
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Will they win enough to make the tournament?
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Could they make things kind of interesting? Sure? Will they
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perhaps change the conversation, which over the last month or
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so has not been very pleasant? Yeah? Quite possibly. Will
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it be a I'll have a lot more fun to
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watch without a doubt. Bottle that from last night. Let
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me see it on Saturday, and if that results in
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a win, and then they can win the next one
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after that, a Utah team that they should have beaten
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in Salt Lake City last week. Then let's start to
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talk about what the season can turn into. Until then,
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I just want to know if what I saw last
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night is going to be the new norm or a
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fun outlier on a Wednesday night in early February. Our
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phone lines are open five point three seven four nine,
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fifteen thirty eight six six seven oh two three seven
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seven six at moegar on Twitter. We'll throw some poll
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questions up there in just a bit. Also, Travis Steele,
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Miami University head coach, recently got a contract extension and
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as a reward he gets to come on our show
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at five thirty three. Lots of ground to cover. Let's
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talk about Joe Burrow and discomfort next three o'clock. This
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is ESPN fifteen thirty on Moeger. Thank you listening today.
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If you miss anything, go get it now or later
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on the iHeartRadio app. Podcast of this show are a
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service of a long neck sports girl. On yesterday's show,
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fun stuff, good, really good conversation with Jordan Bischel. He
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is the baseball coach at U SEE, and we talked
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about his team, talked about year or two of him
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running the Bearcat program. But I think college baseball is
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interesting from like the standpoint of nerdy stuff like coaches
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still calling the pitches or not calling the pitches, and
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you know, in college basketball you get these creepy dudes
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who are like scouting seventh graders. And we talked about
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like when you can identify whether or not a kid
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is you know, maybe d one material. So really good
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stuff with Jordan. It was so good that multiple times
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he kept telling me how good my questions were, which
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we might start to require of guests moving forward. Rick
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browing on the Musketeers and the Norse NKU winners last
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night against a good Cleveland State team. Evan Cohen for
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me being radio on the Joe Burrow debates that are
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out there, and our buddy Sean Sayah, the breakout superstar
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of Radio Row. He's going to be too big for us.
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He joined us as well to talk about some Bengals
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offseason topics, a little draft stuff, and some super Bowl speaking,
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of which Lee Sterling's gonna help us make some money
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on the super Bowl coming up in just about ten
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minutes from Paramount Sports. You think of the Bengals, you
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think of a lot of different things, right, but comfort
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has often been one of those things. And you know,
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let's be honest, the Bengals, to their credit, in recent years,
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have stepped out of their organizational comfort zone. In the
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winner of twenty twenty, suddenly they were major players in
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free agency and they were like, whoa dude, they were
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one of those teams. Folks were talking about the Bengals overpaying,
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like what Bengals overpay? And even last year they didn't
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get a deal done, which they should have, but they
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stepped out of their comfort zone and they negotiated with
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Jamar Chase when he still had two years left on
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his deal. That's good is stepping out of their comfort zone.
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Bengals are really comfortable doing things a certain way. This
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Joe Burrow offseason and really the end of the season
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where he started to talk after most games about t
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Higgins and the desire to see him stay and how
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it can happen and how tea is a need. I
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love it, you love it. I mean, if you're a
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Bengals fan, how do you not like this? First of all,
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if you're a Bengals fan, much less one who has
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a microphone and three hours to do a talk show
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with every single day, Like it's fun to talk about
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the Bengals. It's fun to talk about the Bengals and
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the different things they have in front of them this offseason.
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It's fun to see your quarterback get the national treatment, right.
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Andy Dalton was never a Radio Row star. Heck, we
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went to Radio Row once. No one was talking to
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Andy Dalton, which is how we got him. It was
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literally like, Andy, how's it going? You want to come
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on with us? Like Joe Burrow is in demand and
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as a Bengals fan, that's fun. But one thing I
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think that is fun here is to think about the
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discomfort that he is causing at what used to be
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called Paul Brown Stadium.
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Like it.
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What Joe is saying may be based on assurances he
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has been given. That's a possibility. What Joe is saying
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may be based on what he has been told about
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what he's not getting. What Joe is saying may not
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really matter that much as it relates to the decisions made.
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It may carry a lot of weight. But I'm gonna
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guess that, especially on a day like today where he
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was everywhere in New Orleans, that's creating at least some discomfort.
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How could it not, even if you're the Bengals and
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largely uncaring about the criticism you get. I mean, and
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I think for the most part, you know they care,
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but they don't care that much. Right, they know what's
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out there about him. Here is the face of your franchise,
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and he's putting public pressure on you in ways that
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no Bengal before him has ever put public pressure on you.
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That has to make you at least a little uncomfortable.
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And he's getting laughed at by the hosts of First Take,
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and he's getting grilled about the Bengals history when it
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comes to spending on free agents and paying their own
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guys and against some of that criticism I think is unfair.
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But you can't tell me that the folks down there
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today knowing that Joe was going to go on a
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bunch of shows. You can't tell me that, like Duke
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and the folks who were on the team woke up
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this morning in eager anticipation hearing what their quarterback was
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going to be saying, I think this is good. I
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think it's really good to take this team that has
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had its way of doing things the way they're comfortable
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doing things and making them a little uncomfortable and also
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kind of and to me this is at least the
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overarching point to all of this Joe Burrow stuff. It's
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whether or not he gets what he wants, and the
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pluses and minuses of him getting what he wants, but
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also the okay, you're on notice if you don't give
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him what he wants. This is something we've talked about
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a lot. It's it's not so much not bringing back
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t Higgins, which I think they can do and I
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want to see them do. It's not so much about
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that though. It's like, Okay, I told you I wanted this,
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I didn't get it. Now what I mean it's almost
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and it's maybe not the best comparison. If someone works
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for you and you give them a project and they
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don't get it done, it's not done on time. Okay,
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well what have you been doing with your time?
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Now?
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The answer may satisfy it may not satisfy you. But
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it's putting pressure, I think, on the Bengals to get
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something done with these players. But more than anything, it's
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putting pressure on the Bengals to build the kind of
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team that ensures that Joe Burrow isn't making the rounds
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on Radio Row the week leading up to the super
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Bowl that he's preparing to play in the super Bowl instead.
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I love this. I love this, and I don't love
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it for selfish reasons. I love it because it's unlike
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anything we have ever seen. It's refreshing. It's not coming
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from a place of malice. It's not coming from a
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place of selfishness. Joe is not out there banging the
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drum for his own contract extension or his own pay raise.
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He's banging the drum for how he wants to see
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things get done because he thinks his way of doing
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things is best to ensure that he's playing in the
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Super Bowl next season and not making the rounds leading
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up to it next season. It's creating discomfort. It's rattling cages.
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This is an organization. Frankly, this is a city that
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could use some rattled cages. Lee Sterling helps us make
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some money on the Super Bowl.
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Next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
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This is Dave Laflock, and you're listening to the Home
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of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty.
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Twenty six from four. This is ESPN fifteen thirty During
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the football season. During the regular season of college and
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pro football on Thursdays. We were joined by our guy,
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Lee Sterling from Paramount Sports, who made us a lot
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of money on college and pro football. And when the
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regular season came to an end, we said to Lee, Lee,
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we'll talk to you on the Thursday before the Super Bowl.
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Guess what today is. It's the Thursday before the Super Bowl.
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Paramount sports dot com. Lee Sterling is with us to
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talk about Sunday's game and more. It's good to have you.
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What's up?
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I'm great, I am great. I wish football would continue
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because how about this?
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Not only have we had a winning season.
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Or nine and oh in the NFL playoffs, wow, going
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for maybe a perfect first time ever? Ten and oher
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record in the NFL PA wasn't And it wasn't like
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the College Bowls were bad either. We went sixteen and seven.
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There, unbelievable, unbelievably well good stuff. Do you want to
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start with the line on the game itself, or do
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you want to go into prop bets first year calls.
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Let's go with the prop bets and let's start with
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the one we love to do. My daughter's prediction every
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year on the national anthem, and this year it's John Baptiste.
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He's singing the national anthem. She says, he's a musical genius.
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I wasn't real familiar with him. Were you familiar with
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him at all?
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No?
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Okay, So he plays a lot of instruments. He sings,
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And here's.
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What she says.
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If you're going to play this prop, make sure it
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is him singing the entire time, because he is very
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well noted for singing in the piano and also the guitar.
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He could start off singing the guitar. He could start
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singing and then bring in the piano and then finish
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with singing the national anthem. So if you can find
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a prop where it's him singing from start to finish
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and only singing, she feels it we'll go under. She
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feels he's probably gonna be in the one fifty to
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one fifty five range, and it's anywhere from two minutes
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and one seconds to two minutes and five seconds. They're
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really going to protect themselves after what happened last year
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where Reba McIntire she ended up repeating the last line
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over again and went over and they pretty much had
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they had to pay both sides.
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Yeah, No, it was unlike it we had two things
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that I had never that I that I've always hoped
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we would see. Well, one that I had always hoped
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we would see in one I never thought we'd see.
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I'd always wanted an overtime super Bowl because I make
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that that every year, and we got it last year.
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And then we got to see sides on both of
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the national anthem prop get paid, which was fun.
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Right, Yeah, So yeah, that was fun. And going to
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the player props, you know everyone is going to be
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probably honed in on Sequon Barkley over under one hundred
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and sixteen and a half rushing yards. Think about this,
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there's only been one rusher since the year two thousand.
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It's going over one hundred and seventeen yards. And who
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was at Michael Pittman for the Tampa Bay Bucks in
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two thousand and three hundred and twenty four yards of
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the Bucks over the Raiders. So I think that Steve
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Spagnola is going to come up with a game plan
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here to limit him. He knows that if he gets
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off and has a huge game, they're in trouble.
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So I'm going to go under one hundred.
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And sixteen a hal rushing yards for some of Kwon Barkley.
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People also seem to be favoring A. J. Brown and
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Dallas Goddard over receiving yards. I like DeVonta Smith better.
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Three games he's played against these Bagnola defenses, He's gone
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for seven catches for one twenty two, seven for one
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hundred and six for ninety nine. So I like the
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over fifty and a half receiving yards. They're also the
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over twenty and a half longest reception from DeVonta Smith.
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And then on the.
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Kansas City side, I like the most first downs plus
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one oh five. They just slowly matriculate down the field,
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whereas Philly is more of a big playoffense and Kansas
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City also under eight and a half players catch a pass.
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They've kind of shortened their receivering and also tight end
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cores since the playoffs started, so I think under eight
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and a half players will catch a pass for them
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and shortest touchdown. This is with both teams combined. I
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love under one and a half yards. Remember you can
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have an interference. They bring the ball out to the one,
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and Philadelphia with the tush push is almost unstoppable. And
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then on the other side, a lot of times they'd
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like to bring Travis Kelce in motion. He stops at
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the center and he goes for the for the quarterback
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sneak so small shortest touchdown under one and a half yards.
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Also, Lee Sterling Paramount sports dot com. Is there anything
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and you talked about the anthem, is there anything tangentially
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related to the game that's not a hardcore football prop
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that you like? Not really?
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You know, I went to six hundred and thirty props.
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There was nothing that I would personally play, but it
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took me two days to go through all the props.
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So a lot of maths involved there also, and kind
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of figuring out the way the game goes here. And
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I'm not going to give out the game because we
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sell that to our clients. But how about this for
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a long shot MVP. Now, we pretty much got a
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good idea that the public is pretty burnt out on
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the Kansas hitting the Patrick Mahomes angle there and in
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all three games that he won, he got the MVP.
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Not throwing for as many yards as normal this year.
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How about Travis Kelce, He had a poor game, one
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of his worst playoff games. In the last game, Let's
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say he catches balls for seventy to one hundred yards
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and a touchdown, and he has maybe a sneak for
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a touchdown or a inside shovel pass for a touchdown
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if he gets in the end zone once or twice
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and they win the game. I have a feeling they
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might go with Travis Kelcey. He's only a goin probably
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another year or two after this of playing in the NFL.
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So I think they might go for a tight end.
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And I think Travis Kelsey's their guy at plus sixteen
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hundred if that happens. When you call me before March Madness,
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the call before probably the Bora bar there.
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You Gomount sports dot com. All right, so if you
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want the game, go to Paramount sports dot com. And
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folks should do what all.
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They need to do is go to the website.
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We won three the last four Super Bowls, for the
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last five college championships, another huge winning season. You can
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get the game and also our top ten prop plays
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just ninety seven dollars hop on board. That happened an
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incredible year, record year, just one place. Paramount sports dot com.
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Well, I talked to you before the tournament.
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Yes, we're gonna do it the Tuesday for the tournament.
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All right, book it looking forward to it, man, Thanks
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so much, Lee Sterling, go to Paramount sports dot com.
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Made us a lot of money this season. I do
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like the DeVante Adams over his yardage total, the Travis
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Kelcey longshot MVP. I heard I heard a prop bet
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on the Bill Simmons podcast that I love, which is
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it's basically Patrick Mahomes versus the field, and it's not
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plus odds. I think minus one forty. You're basically betting
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against Kansas City to win the game. But all right,
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you know Patrick Mahomes this year play unevenly at times,
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and he was more of an accessory to their wins
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than at any other point in his career. And so
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you get ninety one players. The book gets Patrick Mahomes.
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I like that one. I got some more. I got
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a list. You know, we don't do Locks of the
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Night anymore, or we won't until it's sponsored and I
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get my cut. But I might break out some props
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on this show tomorrow. We'll see see how good I'm feeling.
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We're at Twin Peaks tomorrow, by the way, from a
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three to six Twin Peaks in Westchester tomorrow afternoon so
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we'll do the show there and if you're in the area,
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come by and say hi. We'll say hi to Chad Brendle,
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on Moeger. You see one last night and looked good
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and looked like they were having fun doing it. It's
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amazing what a game of dodgeball will do for you.
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Chad Brendle's here Bearcat journal dot com on Twitter at Chadbrendle.
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Is everybody on Twitter and on your message boards happy now?
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Some of them still are not mo and I. If
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you can't be happy when your team wins, you should
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find something else to entertain you.
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I enjoyed. I enjoyed myself.
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I did too. I mean, look, Central Florida's defense is
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uh not exactly the eighty five Bears, but uh, you know,
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they did what they were supposed to do. They have
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played multiple defenses that aren't very good and the offense
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still look like crap. Yeah, so last night was a
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nice change of pace.
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It started with dodgeball. Should they just make that a
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part of the irregular practice schedule?
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I think like you got to mix it up a
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little bit, right like dodgeball, maybe some like kick the can.
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You know, just find a way to do it a
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little different so you don't want it to get boring,
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Right like dodgeball, if you do it every week, you
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can get a little boring. So you want to find
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some other things, you know, Uh, I don't know, I'm
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coming I'm coming up in a blank. For teams that
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we played with.
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Ball with flet ball tournament, Yeah, I mean you can
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do something like that. You could play a game of kickball,
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you could just play tag. I mean, there's there's lots
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of different things you could you could do. And so
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we'll see if if Wes Miller incorporates that. In terms
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of what we saw last night, like I I want
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to bottle just the way they played. You know, it's
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it's important that they won, but let's face it, this
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team has a very uphill battle to get to where
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we wanted to go. I just to me, it was
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all about how they played and can they bottle it.
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What are they most likely to bottle from last night
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and use on Saturday.
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I mean, the easiest thing to say is pushing tempo
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and getting out in transition, playing a little bit faster,
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because they have proven if they get to like fifteen
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seconds on the shot clock, a good shot is probably
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not going to follow. So if you can play with
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a little bit more of the purpose that we saw
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them play with last night, or they're getting up and
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down the floor, and even if it's not necessarily all
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fast break stuff, they're not like settling down and trying
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to like grind out bad offense. I think that's been
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the biggest problem this year. They grind out a whole
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lot of bad offense. So I think that's hopefully and
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we've seen a couple glimpses of it this year that
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they have been able to do this a little bit better,
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but it hasn't been sustainable. It hasn't been consistent. I
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think that has to be the takeaway from yesterday. Get
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the ball up the floor, make a decisive action or two,
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and then try to get a shot up on the
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rim and go from there.
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I just I like seeing them put pressure on the
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other team's defense. And you're right, I mean you as defense,
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that's easy to pressure. I like that. I also felt
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like every time and again, you're you're not I understand,
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you're not playing Kansas, you're not playing Arizona, but the
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Bearcats have struggle with teams that aren't quite as good
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as those. When UCF felt like they were a possession
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or two away from taking control of the game, the
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Bearcats had an answer.
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I think that was very encouraging, and that is a
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UCF offense that can splat out score. It's not it's
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funny to say this that it's not conventional in how
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they do it, because how they do it is they
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had three Elite one on one basketball players and they
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pushed the ball off the floor and then they find
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the one that has the match, the mismatch that they
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like the most, they throw it to him and then
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they have that guy go get a bucket, and it's
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not easy to stop. Go. Look at their scores against
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Houston and Kansas and Iowa stating some really good defenses.
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They're still scoring seventy five eighty eighty five points, so
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it was it's difficult to stop them. That was my
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biggest concern, tho Kansas or you see after is going
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to score eighty five points. Going into that game, I
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felt like, can this team score seventy five? Because I
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don't think they can. And then they did, so I
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felt a lot better about the way that they were
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able to answer and respond.
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They got contributions from Dan Skillings in the second half too,
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and you know, Wes talked about him in the postgame
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show with Dan and Terry. I went to bed last
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night hoping and maybe unrealistically that that's the light bulb
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coming on, because it's going to have to at some
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point if this team's to be taken seriously down the stretch.
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What was the difference in those those two buckets that
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he made mo He was decisive. He caught the ball
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and shot it. He was open. He caught it and
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shot it. He was open on the wing. They pushed
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it up to him. He went right at the rim,
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got a bucket and got There was no dilly dallying,
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there was no trying to, you know, show the world
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how good of a ball handler he is.
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He's not.
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And that's what Dan has to get back to. What's
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the thing that you know, when you go back to
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like last year and thinking about how was he effective?
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It was always the first step right, catch and go,
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not catch and dribble and then try to, you know,
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make three moves through the lane like that spin movie
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he had in the first tab. Twice it took it
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from him. There was a guy standing there waiting for
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him to pick his pocket. Stop doing that. Be decisive
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and if it's not there, move to basketball.
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Can they beat by you?
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Is by you're gonna make fifteen threes? I mean that's
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the other thing that I thought was a pretty big
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positive from last night is they got back to U
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s F. When you know when they're right, they got
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those three dudes can really shoot it, like they got
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three dudes that can fill it up from deep, and
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Cincinnati did a good job defending the three. If they
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can defend the three and then run BYU off the line,
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I think they've got a chance. B Yu is going
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to pack the paint. They're gonna do what they did
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last time, where they almost always have four or five
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guys with you know, one step away from the paint.
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You're gonna have to shoot them. Shoot them out of
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it a little bit.
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Mo.
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Hey, there has to be a game at home and
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conference play. They shoot the ball? Well, right, I keep telling.
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Myself that, I uh, I would like to think so.
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All right, man, uh, I appreciate it. Fun to talk
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to you after they win. Well, we'll see us on
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Saturday Saturday night. Thanks so much.
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All right, sounds good things.
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Well, that's our guy, Chad Rendel, Bearcat Journal dot Com.
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It is coming up on four o'clock. We're guest free.
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Told four point thirty Lucho Acosta just went scorched earth
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on his team's general manager. To Laurel Failure of the
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Queen City Press, she is going to join us at
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four thirty, three weeks before the season begins. Hey, we
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talk about like the Bengals in chaos FC Cincinnati. He's
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got a ton of chaos as the season gets closer.
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That conversation coming up at four thirty three, Travis Steele
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Thank This is esp In fifteen thirty. Thank you for
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listening and hopefully whatever you're doing on this February Thursday,
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it's it's fun. You imagine like Joe Burrow has going
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on a media tour. Here, you're gonna hear more from Joe.
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Here in a second, which show are we play? In
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the audio from tarn I've lost track of all the
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shows Joe was on today. This is the one with
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Chris Carton. All those I'll make an admission here those
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FS one shows all, they all blend together. I know
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they've redone their lineup. There's The Herd with Colin cower Heard,
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which has been on that network for like ten years.
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The rest of those shows, I think Nick Wright is
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really good at what he does. But the rest of
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those they all sort of think breakfast Ball with Chris
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Carton who went to jail for a while. So that's
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nice breakfast Ball. You're gonna hear show Burrow from something
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called breakfast Ball, which is a golf reference. I get it,
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something called breakfast ball on but you got there's uh
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doing this off the top of my mind. On the
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top of my head. You got breakfast Ball. Then there's
736
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the facility, and then they're undisputed is not a thing anymore? Right?
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Nope?
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And then what's the other one they got? First? First
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things first, Okay, who's on that one?
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I can't tell you.
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Is they come back to work? Was he on the day?
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I'm not sure I've seen them?
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Yeah, I hope. So, I mean he he literally like
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started his show on Monday. Then he's like, I'm sorry,
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I'm gonna get sick. I gotta go. And he was
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not on his show on Tuesday, and Colin has his critics.
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I Colin Colin's show is on at the same time
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as since He three sixty and I listened to sincey
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three sixty. But I actually do think that as sports
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talk radio host, go Colin Cowhurt is excellent. And it's
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not been because I agree with his takes. In fact,
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I disagree about fifty percent of the time, but I
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tune I turn him on what I do because I
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don't know what his take is gonna be. And I
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just think he's really good at the fundamentals of getting
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in an out of breaks and stuff. It just as
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a nerd, I think he's good at what he does,
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so I hope he's'll get the rest of those shows.
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I have no idea that's neither here. You're gonna hear
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Joe Burrow on breakfast Ball in just a second. But
761
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could you imagine Joe Burrow going on breakfast Ball and
762
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just tossing Duke Tobin under the bus. Lucho Acosta did
763
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that with his team's version of Duke Tobin. Luciano Acosta
764
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was the MVP two years ago of the entire league
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for FC Cincinnati. FC Cincinnati is getting set to started
766
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season and you know he when they lost in the
767
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playoffs last year, started to talk about like I might
768
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be done here, and he told Laurel failure of a
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Queen City Press, my move out of Cincinnati is because
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of Chris Albright and then he go go subscribe to
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her newsletter. It's terrific. I'm not going to give away
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all her content, but basically says like I'm cool with
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everybody here, I'm cool with fans, I'm cool with the teammates,
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like everybody's good. I just don't like this dude. This
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dude is the reason why you know, we can't hang
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on to players and we haven't won. I mean, he
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tossed him under the bus. So Laurel had this story
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yesterday and she is going to join us in just
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about twenty five minutes. But it's basically, Joe Burrow is
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not an MVP. He's an MVP finalist. But FC Cincinnati's
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Joe Burrow through their duke Tobin under the bus and
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did it to Laurel. And she published a piece like
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right when we were going off the air yesterday, So
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we got her on this afternoon right now. More from
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a Joe Burrow's media blitz down there in New Orleans
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Radio Row. He was on Breakfast Ball. Has Craig Carton?
787
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And do we know who else is on that show?
788
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Well, when Burrow was on there, like Mark.
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Mark, Mark Shlahrish, marsh Lare does games for Fox, was
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on ESPN for a while.
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One more dope, I don't know.
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There's one more dope that we don't know. So you
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got Craig Carton, a former felon uh and you got
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Mark Schlareth who played in the NFL, and some other
795
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dope and they're on breakfast Ball, and so is Joe Burrow.
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And here's part of that audio.
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Do you have the faith in the Brown family and
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the Bengals organization to do what Philly has done San
799
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Francisco has done, and that spend and spend and spend
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so that they don't waste these prime years of a
801
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generational quarterback?
802
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Yeah? I do. I do.
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You know we have the capsudates to get it done,
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and I know you know I want to make it happen.
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Everybody involved, Trey t Jamar, Mike Gee, we all want
806
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to stay together. And so when you have guys that
807
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are motivated like that, I think you know you can
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get those things out.
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So they said, hey, we need you to restructure.
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It's something you would consider.
811
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Not knowing what the numbers are, you belong to least
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have that type of conversation to keep the core guys together.
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Of course you got him right. There's a Joe Burrow
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with Craig Craig cart and all kidding aside is and
815
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I don't watch that show, but when he was on
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WFA and in New York was terrific. And also on
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that show as Danny Parkins, who was a former sports
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talk radio host in Chicago, who is awesome. Yeah, these
819
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guys never talked about me on their show. SHO, why
820
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should I talk about that? But anyway, there's Joe Burrow
821
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and he said, we got the cap space. He folded
822
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into the conversation Mike Kasicki. I heard him reference Mike G.
823
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I don't know if that's what we're gonna start calling him,
824
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but Mike Kasicki and he said, we have the cap space,
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and they do have the cap space. And they have
826
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the cap space because you can create more cap space.
827
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There are three c's here to this entire dynamic. Start
828
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with cap space. The Bengals have the cap space. Now
829
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understand Trey Hendrickson, he's under contract for next year, and
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Jamar Chase is under contract for next year. Like that's
831
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those are things those players cannot walk. Those are things. Now,
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you might want an extension for Jamar Chase, but that's
833
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really not going to have a huge impact on twenty
834
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twenty five. T Higgins is not under contract, so his
835
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extension has a major impact on twenty twenty five. You
836
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could extend Trey Hendrickson and not really impact what he's
837
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getting in twenty twenty five. But they do have cap space,
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especially if you look at the lengthy list of players
839
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that should at least be considered for cuts, like unfortunately
840
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Sam Hubbard, right, and like Jermaine Pratt, and like Alex Kappa,
841
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and like Sheldon Rankins, like Gino Stone, and there are others.
842
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But and you know, like this is this is a
843
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departure from how the Bengals have done things in the past,
844
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where if you signed a contract with the Bengals, and
845
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if it was a four year contract, you were going
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to play there for four years, they were not going
847
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to cut you. They've changed over the last decade or so,
848
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and so there are a lot of players, some you
849
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:05.039
might argue could use a change of scenery and be
850
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better elsewhere. And some, you might argue, are still useful,
851
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but not for what they're due financially, Sam Hubbard. Some
852
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might be useful with a different coordinator, let's say Geno Stone.
853
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But based on what we saw last year, there's a
854
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long list of guys who collectively represent an enormous chunk
855
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of money that if you got rid of all of them,
856
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suddenly you've got even more cap space. They've got cap space.
857
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That's one of the seas. Another one of the seas
858
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is cooperation. Joe was just asked about a restructure. He's
859
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open to it. He's talked in other interviews about you know,
860
00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:51.719
we've we're all gonna do what it takes. We're all
861
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gonna do what it takes. That's cooperation. Hey, look, I
862
00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:59.679
understand some of the financial issues here. I understand what
863
00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:02.840
do Tobin and the front office have to accomplish. They've
864
00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:04.920
got a lot of holes to plug, we've got a
865
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:07.239
lot of areas to fill. We have a lot of
866
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:11.199
work to do. But I want to keep these guys
867
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together on the team with me. We've talked about it.
868
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There's cooperation. What we don't know is Paul Danner Junior
869
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and I talked about this on his podcast yesterday, The Growler,
870
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which obviously you should be listening to. We talked about
871
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:27.559
T Higgins and he asked me point blank, if you
872
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:30.079
were T Higgins, would you take less to play in Cincinnati.
873
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It's easy for me to say, I am a Bengals fan.
874
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B it's not my life, but I would take less
875
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to play with Joe Burrow and be an icon in
876
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:41.599
this town. If he leaves elsewhere and goes and makes
877
00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:45.719
more money, good for him. Good for him. He's earned
878
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:49.800
this right. But there at least seems to be an
879
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:54.280
insinuation that T. Higgins is at least open to taking
880
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less to play in Cincinnati. Will he I have no idea,
881
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Should he? That's up to him. Does he have an obligation?
882
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Of course not so. There does seem to be a
883
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level of cooperation here. There's also creativity. Look, Joe Burrow
884
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is putting pressure on the Bengals to sign T Higgins.
885
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I'm sure he also understands we've got to upgrade the
886
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offensive line. We've got a defense that needs a lot
887
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of fixing. We've got a lot of things that have
888
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:33.199
to get done. This offseason. He said, how huge this
889
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offseason was. We've got an offense where we've got to
890
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:39.920
We've got to nail at this offseason. So what are
891
00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:41.519
the Bengals gonna have to do. They're gonna have to
892
00:48:41.519 --> 00:48:45.519
be creative. They're gonna have to be creative and free agency.
893
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:48.320
There's gonna be money to spend on other free agents.
894
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:51.880
Not every free agent's a star. Not every free agent's
895
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:55.360
a household name. DJ Reider was not a household name
896
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:58.199
when he came here. Now, they're probably not gonna be
897
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:01.679
overpaying for a player I could DJ Reader this offseason,
898
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especially if they pay everybody else. But not every free
899
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:07.119
agent acquisition is a household name. Did you know who
900
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:11.119
Mike Hilton was before the Bengals got him great acquisition?
901
00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:14.239
Did you know anything about Trey Hendrickson before the Bengals
902
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:17.480
got him great acquisition? So they're gonna have to be
903
00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:20.719
creative and free agency find players who fit fine, players
904
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:23.679
who are still as sending. You know, this is why
905
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:25.679
I was all in on the Geno Stone thing and
906
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:27.599
it didn't work out, because it felt like that guy
907
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:30.039
is still on the way up, So get him while
908
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:32.119
he's still on the way up. Not at his peak.
909
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:36.119
There are players like that, many of whom I believe
910
00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:41.760
you can get for a relatively small amount of money.
911
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:45.599
And then there's the draft. Man. I keep coming back
912
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:50.559
to this, the Bengals track record in drafting is spotty
913
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:53.840
at best. Now, they took some players last year who
914
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:56.400
I think have a chance to be really good. And
915
00:49:56.480 --> 00:49:58.679
if you look at the top of this draft, removed
916
00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:01.599
Jermaine Burton for a second. And if we judge the
917
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:03.440
draft by what you do the first couple of days,
918
00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:06.000
there's a chance that the twenty twenty four draft for
919
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:07.599
the Bengals is going to go down as a pretty
920
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:10.119
good one. With the Marius Mems and Chris Jenkins and
921
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:13.000
McKinley Jackson. Like, there's some some good players there, and
922
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they've recently drafted you know, Chase Brown two years ago.
923
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:18.800
They've they've had their successes. But if you look at
924
00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:21.960
the draft choices on defense, a lot of misses, a
925
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:26.360
lot of misses. That has to change. But it has
926
00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:28.920
to change no matter what they do with t Higgins.
927
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This is a theme we touched on in great detail yesterday.
928
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The problem isn't letting great players get away. The problem
929
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is their plans to replace them never work. That's a
930
00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:42.679
drafting issue, it's a development issue. That's a drafting issue,
931
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:45.639
and a development issue that's got to change. That's gotta
932
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:48.079
change no matter what they do with t. So the
933
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:51.000
onus is on Duke Tobin and the front office. And yes,
934
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the onus is on Duke Tobin in the front office
935
00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:56.559
to satisfy Joe Burrow and give him what he wants.
936
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And he obviously wants tea, and he obviously wants an
937
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:03.360
extension for and he obviously wants a nice tidy ending
938
00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:07.199
to the Jamar Chase thing. He will acknowledge there are
939
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:09.239
other things to get done well, if you have the
940
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:12.880
cap space, if you are creative, if you're resourceful, if
941
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:15.440
you're good at your job, you ought to be able
942
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:18.079
to get those things done. And by the way, like
943
00:51:18.719 --> 00:51:21.800
this team will have needs next season. At the end
944
00:51:21.800 --> 00:51:25.079
of the year, we will be talking about Bengals team needs.
945
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:27.519
Bengals had team needs when they went to the Super
946
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:30.440
Bowl in twenty twenty one, didn't they Right, They had
947
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:34.159
a big, major one in the offensive line. So everything
948
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:36.559
doesn't have to be fixed to perfection. You're not gonna
949
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:39.800
have a Pro Bowl player in every position. Right, You're
950
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:42.599
not gonna have the best player at his position in
951
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:46.360
the league at every single spot. It's got to be
952
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:49.559
fixed well enough for Joe Burrow to take what you
953
00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:52.440
build for him and get you to the super Bowl,
954
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which he thinks he can do and most of us
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think he can do. The Bengals camp situation is pretty enviable,
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all things considered. Where the Bengals are starting from is
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pretty enviable all things considered, because they've got one of
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the best quarterbacks in the sport, maybe the best. They
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have players who want to be here, like, don't discount
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that either man. For all the noise that Trey Hendrickson
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made yesterday, he didn't say he wants out. Dude wants
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to be here. So does t Higgins. He's never said
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I want out. Jamar Chase wants to be here. That's
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a pretty damn good place. The NFL gives teams seven
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draft choices, seven young, cheap players every year. There has
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never been more importance on the draft than right now.
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With quarterbacks getting what they're getting, with the upper class
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players getting what they're getting, you need cheap labor to
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help you immediately. You can't have a Dax Hill. You
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can't have a Miles Murphy. You can't have players that
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you're still waiting two three years in to find out
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what they can do. So that's on Duke Tobin, that's
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on the personnel department, that's on the scouting department, and
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that's on the coaching staff. This is the case no
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matter what. But you're gonna get a bunch of really
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cheap players in the draft, a bunch of them. Any
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guys that can help you immediately, man immediately, that's going
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to be the case, with or without t Higgins. You've
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got to nail it in free agency. It's admittedly easier
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to nail it in free agency the more you can spend,
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00:53:41.719 --> 00:53:44.320
but boy, there are plenty of instances in this league
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00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:48.000
of general managers maybe not having as much to spend
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00:53:48.039 --> 00:53:51.599
and still finding solutions. Duke Tobin a few years ago
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00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:55.880
was the Executive of the Year and deserved it, But
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now is really when we find out how good he is.
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Can you satisfy your quarterback? Can you work with him
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and others to keep that group together? Can you use
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00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:09.480
the draft choices? Can you be creative and free agency?
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If the answers are yes, let's see what Joe Burrow
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can do and judge him on the results. Cab Space,
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Creativity and Cooperation twenty minutes after four o'clock. Your phone
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calls are welcome. Five point three seven four nine, fifteen thirty.
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Laurel Faylor will be on this show in fifteen minutes
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to find out why Lucho Acosta is mad at his
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general manager and if there's any chance of him playing
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for the team this year. And Travis Steel joins us
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at five thirty five on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.
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It's sponsored by We're broadcasting tomorrow from Twin Peaks in Westchester,
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So you should come to Twin Peaks in Westchester and
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have a beer, start your weekend with us, get a
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meatball skillet. We you know, we haven't done the Tony
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and Mo football show in like a month. And then
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you know because we're there every Monday during football season.
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And then we typically do two shows at Twin Peaks.
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And Tony won't be with me tomorrow, but two shows
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at Twin Peaks. We do the show the Friday before
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the Super Bowl, and then we do a show on
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the Monday of the college basketball National Championship game. And
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so we go this long stretch of time where on
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Mondays at to Twin Peaks during football season, I get
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the meat ball skillet. And then not that I don't
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swing by Twin Peaks here and there, but I don't
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live in Westchester and i don't live in Florence, so
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I've got to be in the area. Tomorrow will be
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at Twin Peaks and I'll get my meatball skillet. So
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I invite you to join me and get a beer
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and a meatball.
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Skill it any chance somebody can drop a meatball skillet
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off at the station.
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Okay, we'll see if anybody will swing by Twin Peaks
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tomorrow and then come here and bring a meat ball
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skillet to Terren Bland.
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I mean, I'm part of the show too. I would
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like to some food.
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00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:41.960
Well, yeah, that's fine. I'm gonna be busy doing the show.
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But if during the show we can get someone to
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00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:49.280
stop off to go to Twin Peaks in Westchester and
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then get in their car and drive to Kenwood and
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bring the meatball skillet to Terran, You'll be the ESPN
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fifteen thirty listener of the week. How's that saying? What
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00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:05.039
are we doing here? Let's see I need more mice
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00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:08.159
in the studio. Rob, You're on ESPN fifteen thirty. Good afternoon,
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how are you. I'm doing great.
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Mo.
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00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:13.800
I just want to say I'm on the same page
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00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:16.000
you are. I mean, let's look at the facts. Jeeb
1047
00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:18.719
BurrH is the best quarterback we've ever had. The guys,
1048
00:57:18.760 --> 00:57:23.360
gave up his body numerous times, been through hell. Give
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00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:27.119
him what he wants. I'm totally on the same page.
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00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:34.000
T Sign Trey Tamarr, everybody else in the organization. Figure
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00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:37.599
it out. So I've been hearing about Mo Mo Mo
1052
00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:40.800
or not Mo, but doup Dooke let's play the game,
1053
00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:46.079
Mo Tobin, your first pick in the first round, and
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00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:48.920
one free agent that you want to see signed.
1055
00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:54.000
Well, I am ill qualified to give you the player
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00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:55.760
that I want to take in the draft right now,
1057
00:57:55.960 --> 00:57:58.320
because I haven't even started with that. I am I
1058
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:01.440
will admit to you to being complet deletely ill prepared
1059
00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:04.199
to answer that question because my my brain hasn't gone
1060
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:08.679
there yet. So I'm I'm looking if i'm if I'm
1061
00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:11.079
looking for like you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna spend
1062
00:58:11.079 --> 00:58:13.960
a lot of money and make a big splash. First,
1063
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:17.599
I'm gonna do so on the offensive line or defensive line,
1064
00:58:18.679 --> 00:58:24.400
and probably more likely the defensive line, and so, you know,
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just in large part because I feel like, I feel
1066
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:31.119
like they're gonna be guards available. I need, I need,
1067
00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:33.599
I need an upgrade at one position on the offensive line.
1068
00:58:33.599 --> 00:58:35.519
Now there are two of them guards. I feel like
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I can do that in the draft and by finding
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a free agent who's not an absolute, you know, top
1071
00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:42.760
tier guy. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna start on the
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defensive line, and I'm gonna start on the interior of
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the defensive line because I feel like, once upon a
1074
00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:52.159
time when they rebuilt their defense. They started with the
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00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:56.119
DJ Reader, And so I am. I am gonna look
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first and foremost, and this is this is probably an
1077
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:02.039
absolute pipe dream, but I'm gonna look at Milton Williams,
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who's gonna play on Sunday.
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And I love that pick because he's athletic and he
1080
00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:09.760
brings some pass rush from the three techniques.
1081
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:12.800
Absolutely graded very high as a pass rusher this year.
1082
00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:15.679
Graded very high as a run stopper two years ago,
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00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:18.159
not quite as high this year. Still just twenty five
1084
00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:21.079
years old, not a lot of wear and tear. Kind
1085
00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:23.800
of a rotational guy in Philly up until this year.
1086
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So you get him fresh, you get him young, you're
1087
00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:29.199
gonna have to pay him a ton. I'm the first
1088
00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:30.599
to admit that you gotta pay him a ton of
1089
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:32.519
What that looks like, I don't know. But if you're
1090
00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:35.239
just making it about the player, I watch what he
1091
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did against the Commanders in the NFC Championship game. Monster,
1092
00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:44.960
absolute monster. I see. I see specifically what they need.
1093
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A pass rusher from up the middle, a guy that
1094
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can occupy blockers, a guy who has had success against
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the run, a guy who is not coming off of
1096
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:55.239
major injury. A guy who doesn't have a lot of
1097
00:59:55.239 --> 00:59:58.159
wear and tear, a guy who's an anchor of a
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00:59:58.159 --> 01:00:02.360
good defensive line in Philadelphia, he might exceed their price range.
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But if you're just making it about who is the
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number one player in free agency that I want, that's
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01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:08.519
the guy.
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All right, man in the in the draft, I mean,
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01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:15.639
you gotta go. It's coming in a half hour in
1104
01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:18.239
the draft. I've been doing some research, keeping out on
1105
01:00:18.280 --> 01:00:22.280
the old myths. D lineman. He's very athletic and strong.
1106
01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:26.400
He's about two hundred and eighty pounds actually ten ninety five.
1107
01:00:26.599 --> 01:00:29.679
And watch out for there's a few linemen. There's a
1108
01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:34.519
lineman from Bolson's Bolson's College really good.
1109
01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:36.000
He's really good.
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And needs to be there for us. And in the
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first round or second round.
1112
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He's very good. Guard center.
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Yeah, they're gonna have to rob thank you. They're gonna
1114
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they're gonna have to They're gonna have to find better guards.
1115
01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:53.280
And and I'm I'm I'm of the belief that you
1116
01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:56.920
can find a quality guard in free agency that's not
1117
01:00:56.960 --> 01:00:58.480
going to break the bank. And I think you have
1118
01:00:58.559 --> 01:01:00.880
to prioritize that position of the draft that might not
1119
01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:04.679
necessarily mean a first round pick, but they they used
1120
01:01:04.679 --> 01:01:08.159
a second rounder in twenty twenty one on a guard.
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01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:15.480
Didn't work out. But yeah, that's it's funny. I jotted
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01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:21.159
down for next week combine guests, because then we'll start
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01:01:21.159 --> 01:01:25.320
the draft process. I've been completely ignorant as to such
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01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:29.559
developments to this point. But watch Mount Williams on Sunday games.
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It's about the player, the player in the position. That's
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01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:38.800
that's that's The guy might not be able to afford him,
1127
01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:41.960
or he may get at a lot of offers. He
1128
01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:47.360
may get an offer that's more money elsewhere. But young, versatile,
1129
01:01:48.239 --> 01:01:53.760
ascending this year. He was not equally good in pass
1130
01:01:53.880 --> 01:01:57.760
rush and run stop, but he has a track record
1131
01:01:57.800 --> 01:01:59.920
of being good against the run. So that's my guy.
1132
01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:02.440
And against Washington, go back to the NFC Championship game,
1133
01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:06.639
he was awesome. What is also awesome is when a
1134
01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:10.519
star player just rolls his GM under the bus. Maybe
1135
01:02:10.559 --> 01:02:12.360
it's not awesome for the GM, but it's fun to
1136
01:02:12.360 --> 01:02:15.760
talk about. Lucho Costa did that in a story Broken
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01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:18.119
by a Laurel failure of the Queen City Press, which
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01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:20.599
is her newsletter, and awesome. She joins us.
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01:02:20.519 --> 01:02:28.000
Next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic from.
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This report is ESPN fifty thirty im oegor thank you
1150
01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:04.039
for listening today. Yesterday, right when we were wrapping up,
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01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:09.679
I subscribed to Queen City Press, which is the FC
1152
01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:15.559
Cincinnati publication newsletter authored by Laurel Faylor, who does an
1153
01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:18.480
awesome job covering the Orange and Blue, and and she
1154
01:03:18.840 --> 01:03:23.360
published a piece yesterday where Lucho Acosta kind of went
1155
01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:26.920
scorched earth on Chris Albright, the GM of FC Cincinnati,
1156
01:03:26.960 --> 01:03:30.000
and says, look, this guy's pushing me out, and I'm
1157
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:32.079
cool with everybody else, but I'm not cool with Chris.
1158
01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:34.800
The situation with Chris running the clubs not working on
1159
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:36.760
paraphrasing him here. If you want to read the piece,
1160
01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:39.039
go get it. You should subscribe if you're a fan
1161
01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:43.159
of FC Cincinnati Queencitypress dot net. Uh and so I
1162
01:03:43.199 --> 01:03:45.199
wanted to get Laurel on to talk about this because
1163
01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:48.039
the season's about to start and it feels like chaos
1164
01:03:48.079 --> 01:03:51.679
is unfolding with FC Cincinnati. It's it's good to have you, Laurel.
1165
01:03:51.719 --> 01:03:52.159
How are you.
1166
01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:55.679
I'm doing okay. Thanks for having me on. I was
1167
01:03:55.719 --> 01:03:58.320
happy to talk some FC Cincinnati.
1168
01:03:58.440 --> 01:04:00.559
Well, yeah, and there's and there's a lot to talk
1169
01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:04.039
about and the season hasn't even started. There's a lot
1170
01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:07.800
here that you wrote about yesterday, and I think the
1171
01:04:07.840 --> 01:04:09.960
fallout is going to be interesting to follow him. I'm
1172
01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:13.599
kind of curious when when Lucho Acosta is kind of unloading,
1173
01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:15.679
for lack of a better term, on Chris alright, and
1174
01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:17.679
you're his audience, what's going through your mind?
1175
01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:23.159
I would say it's it's a little stressful because obviously,
1176
01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:26.599
you know, I cover the club. I need to you know,
1177
01:04:26.679 --> 01:04:29.280
I am there for players. You know, I try to
1178
01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:32.199
give a voice to the players. But you know, he
1179
01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:36.280
had some pretty, you know, not great things to say
1180
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:38.840
about Chris Alright. So, I mean I had to go
1181
01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:41.960
to the club, and in that sense, you almost feel
1182
01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:45.320
like you're betraying the player because I'm basically taking what
1183
01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:47.760
he's saying and giving it to the club and they
1184
01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:51.519
get to respond. So but you know, that's the job
1185
01:04:51.559 --> 01:04:53.880
of a journalist is to try to be fair and
1186
01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:57.239
at the club did deserve a chance to respond. I
1187
01:04:57.280 --> 01:05:00.039
did try to reach Chris all Right specifically, and he
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he did not respond. The club just wanted to go
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01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:06.039
on and do a statement. So yeah, I mean, it
1190
01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:08.639
was just it's kind of feels like he said, she
1191
01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:11.599
said things when you get into this type of stuff.
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01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:15.400
But something we deal with in sports where players are
1193
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:17.760
going to be unhappy with their situation and if they
1194
01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:20.239
get frustrated enough, they want to air it out. And
1195
01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:23.599
so that's that's kind of what happened here. You know,
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01:05:24.519 --> 01:05:27.360
the club is supporting Chris all Right through this. So
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01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:32.800
Luke chosen preseason with the team right now still training
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01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:34.360
off to the side, and there's just a lot of
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01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:37.199
uncertainty I think about what happens next.
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01:05:37.079 --> 01:05:39.559
Yeah, uncertainty, and I'm sure, at least to a degree,
1201
01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:43.119
some awkwardness. Where where did this start to go wrong.
1202
01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:49.119
Well, he takes it back to the end of the
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01:05:49.119 --> 01:05:51.480
twenty twenty three season. Now, that was the year that
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01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:54.679
FC Cincinnati won the Supporter Shield. He was the league
1205
01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:57.719
MVP and he just got a contract extension at the
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01:05:57.800 --> 01:06:02.360
end of it. He and his statement to me went
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01:06:02.400 --> 01:06:04.960
through some of the players that he felt like the
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01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:08.440
club turned its back on or you know, there were
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01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:12.199
the roster did get overhauled basically after that season, which
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01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:14.679
was I would say pretty surprising just to have a
1211
01:06:14.719 --> 01:06:19.320
Supporters Shield season and then basically five returning starters the
1212
01:06:19.360 --> 01:06:22.320
next year. Now a lot of them they couldn't bring back.
1213
01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:27.159
Brandon Vasquez, they sold, Alvaro Barrial wanted to move on,
1214
01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:31.679
and then you know yours and Maskira was only here
1215
01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:33.800
on loan, so he had to go back to Wolverhampton
1216
01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:37.280
in the Premier League. He's not gonna stay here. But
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01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:39.880
there are a couple of guys that had options declined
1218
01:06:40.039 --> 01:06:42.960
that they you know, the club did try to negotiate
1219
01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:46.000
to bring back, which he mentioned like Junior Marino and
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01:06:46.039 --> 01:06:48.880
santi Arius, two guys he was really comfortable with, He
1221
01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:53.360
was good friends with them. He felt like there was
1222
01:06:53.400 --> 01:06:56.639
too much overhaul. Basically that they needed some continuity and
1223
01:06:56.679 --> 01:06:59.320
the roster, which makes sense. But at the same time,
1224
01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:03.920
you know, he's not a GM and Chris alright has
1225
01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:06.079
a vision of how he's going to build a roster.
1226
01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:08.440
He does have a salary cap he has to deal with,
1227
01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:11.599
so depending on what salary demands were like, he might
1228
01:07:11.639 --> 01:07:13.440
not have been able to work it out with those players.
1229
01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:16.079
So I kind of see both sides, like it's a
1230
01:07:16.119 --> 01:07:18.519
tough job for a GM and a salary cap league.
1231
01:07:18.559 --> 01:07:22.800
But you know, you also see that Lucho probably when
1232
01:07:22.840 --> 01:07:26.440
he signed that extension as a league MVP felt like
1233
01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:28.599
they building around him and he had some players he
1234
01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:31.360
was comfortable with, and the club ended up kind of
1235
01:07:31.760 --> 01:07:33.800
turning away from those guys, as he put it. So
1236
01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:36.960
that's kind of where it started. Then he goes into
1237
01:07:37.159 --> 01:07:39.920
kind of just he didn't have a good relationship with Chris.
1238
01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:44.760
Chris wasn't returning his text messages and so I don't
1239
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:46.480
you know, it's I know, last year was a really
1240
01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:48.960
challenging year for him personally too. He mentioned at the
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01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:51.079
end of the season that he had some family matters
1242
01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:53.719
that he was dealing with, and so I think it's
1243
01:07:53.719 --> 01:07:58.400
just all all the frustrations of you know, he's very competitive,
1244
01:07:58.679 --> 01:08:01.199
and they ended up losing the first round of playoffs.
1245
01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:04.039
That factors into and so I think we saw a
1246
01:08:04.079 --> 01:08:06.760
lot of those emotions come out right after the last
1247
01:08:06.800 --> 01:08:08.719
playoff game, when he kind of told us that he
1248
01:08:08.840 --> 01:08:11.599
was looking to move on. And then, you know, I
1249
01:08:11.599 --> 01:08:14.039
don't know, I know the club was working on trying
1250
01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:18.039
to move him this off season and that didn't work out.
1251
01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:21.319
So he's reported late to the preseason. It just seems
1252
01:08:21.359 --> 01:08:23.119
like it all kind of came to a head here
1253
01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:26.520
recently and he just kind of wanted to let the
1254
01:08:26.560 --> 01:08:29.359
fans know what why he wanted to leave.
1255
01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:34.239
Yeah, it's it's pretty interesting laurel failure. At Queen City Press,
1256
01:08:34.479 --> 01:08:36.800
you you know, you cover this team very objectively, and
1257
01:08:36.840 --> 01:08:39.520
so what's interesting to me is, you know, we get
1258
01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:43.399
folks on who called these games and talk FC Cincinnati,
1259
01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:45.520
and they always talk about well, Pat Newton and Chris
1260
01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:47.800
Albright and what a great job they've done, and I mean,
1261
01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:51.479
the results certainly in twenty twenty three spoke for themselves.
1262
01:08:51.880 --> 01:08:53.520
And so I guess there's a part of me that's like,
1263
01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:56.079
wait a minute, this guy who has been given a
1264
01:08:56.079 --> 01:08:58.159
lot of credit for you know the way this this
1265
01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:00.479
club has turned into, and you know, one of the
1266
01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:02.479
best teams in Major League Soccer in a very short
1267
01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:05.159
amount of time. Suddenly a guy who's a league MVP
1268
01:09:05.359 --> 01:09:08.079
is unloading on him. And so, from where you sit,
1269
01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:12.720
what what criticisms of Chris Albright are are fair and
1270
01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:15.039
maybe which ones are a little bit unfair?
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01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:20.000
I would say, I mean, there is kind of a
1272
01:09:20.399 --> 01:09:24.039
theme that we're hearing with because this is an odd preseason,
1273
01:09:24.079 --> 01:09:26.439
and that Luca is not the only one that didn't
1274
01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:31.159
show up. Luca Origano and Yuya Kubo we're both late
1275
01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:33.960
as well, and you kind of start to wonder there
1276
01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:40.159
the communication aspects of somewhere these guys are either not
1277
01:09:40.359 --> 01:09:43.640
understanding how the roster is being built, they don't understand
1278
01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:46.279
the salary cap. Is that something maybe needs to be
1279
01:09:46.279 --> 01:09:49.279
communicated better from the GM. I would say, if it
1280
01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:51.640
gets to the point where they're not showing up, then
1281
01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:55.600
that's where maybe Chris needs to have some I don't know,
1282
01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:57.000
I'm not there, I'm not in the room. I don't
1283
01:09:57.000 --> 01:09:59.560
know what conversations he has had, but it just seems
1284
01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:02.079
like they're not on the same page in that regard.
1285
01:10:03.359 --> 01:10:06.520
You know, you can't really, uh, there's not much as
1286
01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:09.239
far as the roster. They you know, look at where
1287
01:10:09.239 --> 01:10:12.199
they were their first three years in MLS. You you
1288
01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:15.880
have to see that when Chris Albright got here, it
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01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:18.279
was a complete change. He brought in Pat noon In.
1290
01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:20.920
He had a lot of the pieces that were brought
1291
01:10:20.960 --> 01:10:24.319
in by former general manager Gerard and I Camp and
1292
01:10:24.479 --> 01:10:27.039
like Luco was signed by him, and a lot of
1293
01:10:27.079 --> 01:10:29.279
the pieces that have really led to a lot of
1294
01:10:29.279 --> 01:10:32.760
the success of the team did come from that former GM,
1295
01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:35.279
But it took bringing in a guy like Pat noon
1296
01:10:35.319 --> 01:10:38.840
In that really and really a GM that understood the
1297
01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:41.840
mechanisms that MLS. You know, all their roster rules are
1298
01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:45.000
really unique and it's challenging for a foreign GM to
1299
01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:48.840
to manage. So Chris came in and really did a
1300
01:10:48.920 --> 01:10:55.880
strong job of find finding ways to maneuver those intriccees
1301
01:10:55.920 --> 01:10:59.439
that are involved in building an MLS roster, and they
1302
01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:02.720
ended up with the first trophy for the club in
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01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:06.239
MLS in twenty twenty three. So, you know, he obviously
1304
01:11:06.359 --> 01:11:12.800
understands what it takes to win in MLS. You could say,
1305
01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:15.119
you know, he hasn't done great at the forward position.
1306
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:17.880
The forwards he's brought in to this point, Aaron Bupenza
1307
01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:20.600
ended up being a train wreck and they ended up
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01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:24.399
having to terminate his contract. They tried at the deadline
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01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:26.479
in the summer, they tried, you know, really hard to
1310
01:11:26.479 --> 01:11:29.880
bring in some really good forwards, and as Chris put it,
1311
01:11:29.880 --> 01:11:31.920
they were kind of left at the altar at the
1312
01:11:32.039 --> 01:11:34.840
end and they ended up having to bring Nico Giochini
1313
01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:37.800
on loan and he ended up with no goals, no assists,
1314
01:11:38.159 --> 01:11:41.399
and he was on a DP spot. So there is
1315
01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:43.920
questions to what he can do at that forward position,
1316
01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:47.039
and that's a position that's really impacting Lucco, like he's
1317
01:11:47.079 --> 01:11:49.319
the creator and he needs the forward he can work with.
1318
01:11:49.680 --> 01:11:52.079
They did bring in Kevin Denka that there's a lot
1319
01:11:52.079 --> 01:11:55.439
of high expectations for him. He was a top goal
1320
01:11:55.439 --> 01:11:58.800
scorer in Europe over the last two years in Belgium,
1321
01:11:58.960 --> 01:12:03.880
so there's hope there. But it's just a little concerning that.
1322
01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:06.479
You know, Luco's not on a field to work with
1323
01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:08.880
him at this point. There's a lot of uncertainty there.
1324
01:12:09.039 --> 01:12:13.039
So I would say just the criticisms with what he's
1325
01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:16.119
done at that forward position are probably valid to this point,
1326
01:12:16.399 --> 01:12:18.439
but it's still kind of a well, we got to
1327
01:12:18.439 --> 01:12:20.600
see how it goes this year, and then maybe we
1328
01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:23.039
can reevaluate that he's had some you know, he took
1329
01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:26.079
a risk on Aaron Bupenza and it didn't work out.
1330
01:12:26.439 --> 01:12:30.319
You're not gonna be perfect on every signing, so that
1331
01:12:30.319 --> 01:12:34.079
would be probably the main thing that I think could
1332
01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:36.439
be a valid At this.
1333
01:12:36.399 --> 01:12:40.119
Point, preseason training begins and maybe a week or so
1334
01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:42.199
in Pat noon and kind of sounds off on the
1335
01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:44.039
guys who aren't there, And there were a lot of
1336
01:12:44.159 --> 01:12:47.159
us who found that pretty refreshing. What did you make
1337
01:12:47.199 --> 01:12:49.319
of what he had to say about the players who,
1338
01:12:49.880 --> 01:12:52.199
at least at the time, weren't at preseason training.
1339
01:12:53.800 --> 01:12:55.920
Man, I'm stillful of writing about all this. I can't
1340
01:12:55.920 --> 01:12:58.600
imagine how it is for Pat. You're having to deal
1341
01:12:58.680 --> 01:13:01.680
with all this. Like he he's the guy that's supposed
1342
01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:03.920
to be able to work with these players, and from
1343
01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:07.840
my understanding, like the players do have good relationships with him.
1344
01:13:08.239 --> 01:13:10.560
He's gotten a lot out of the players that have
1345
01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:14.279
been brought in, and you know, he's done a pretty
1346
01:13:14.319 --> 01:13:18.079
solid job as as a manager of this team. But yeah,
1347
01:13:18.119 --> 01:13:20.760
he doesn't have these pieces on the field. There's a
1348
01:13:20.760 --> 01:13:25.800
lot of injuries right now. It's just feels like they're
1349
01:13:26.479 --> 01:13:28.640
had I mean that two weeks from there, from the
1350
01:13:28.680 --> 01:13:32.359
first game, and there's just a lot of uncertainity if
1351
01:13:32.359 --> 01:13:35.239
they don't have a left back in yet. So he
1352
01:13:35.359 --> 01:13:38.479
is trying to deal with all this. I think he's
1353
01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:41.640
very frustrated. From those comments, you could tell he was
1354
01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:44.399
trying to put pressure that they have an obligation to
1355
01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:47.720
the team. You know, they do have contracts, so that
1356
01:13:47.880 --> 01:13:51.079
is a real thing. But to me, it's kind of
1357
01:13:51.119 --> 01:13:55.680
like Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase are, you know, going
1358
01:13:55.680 --> 01:13:59.000
through contract disputes right now. You could kind of equate
1359
01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:01.960
it to that if you want to. Lujo is the
1360
01:14:02.079 --> 01:14:05.600
Joe Buro of FC Cincinnati, and so the fact that
1361
01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:08.279
he's not on the field they don't have a replacement
1362
01:14:08.279 --> 01:14:10.560
for him is pretty concerning, and you can kind of
1363
01:14:10.760 --> 01:14:14.079
feel that frustration from Pat Noonan in every interview he's
1364
01:14:14.119 --> 01:14:14.880
doing at this point.
1365
01:14:15.159 --> 01:14:18.920
Yeah, it feels it feels chaotic. And the season doesn't
1366
01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:21.960
start in April, it starts here in two weeks. I
1367
01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:26.680
will admit to you this as a newer soccer follower
1368
01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:28.960
over the last ten years, that sometimes when I read
1369
01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:32.880
about transactions, I get really confused, So explain this to me, Like,
1370
01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:37.119
I'm like, I'm nine years old. What's next for Lucho
1371
01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:40.640
and is there any possibility that he is in the
1372
01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:43.720
Orange and Blue when the season starts actually playing games.
1373
01:14:45.680 --> 01:14:51.479
Well, he did have an opportunity to transfer to Argentina,
1374
01:14:51.600 --> 01:14:55.840
so it's kind of like a trade. They can sell
1375
01:14:56.000 --> 01:14:59.079
Luco to another team in another league. They can also
1376
01:14:59.239 --> 01:15:02.439
trade him with in the league. Now there's these cash trades.
1377
01:15:03.039 --> 01:15:03.399
Uh.
1378
01:15:03.439 --> 01:15:07.279
Previously you had to trade for allocation money, which is
1379
01:15:07.399 --> 01:15:11.479
just a way to buy down players salaries so that
1380
01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:18.039
they're under the salary cap. But right now, the biggest
1381
01:15:18.279 --> 01:15:21.600
opportunity that seems on the table is is what would
1382
01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:25.279
bring them back to his home country in Argentina. FC
1383
01:15:25.399 --> 01:15:31.399
Cincinnati and Studiantes in Yeah, in Argentina have come to
1384
01:15:31.439 --> 01:15:35.039
a transfer an agreement on a transfer fee, so they
1385
01:15:35.079 --> 01:15:37.640
agree on what would be paid to SC Cincinnati to
1386
01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:42.960
buy Luco's contract, But Luco has not agreed to a contract,
1387
01:15:43.159 --> 01:15:48.640
and my understanding is the verbal discussions they're pretty far apart.
1388
01:15:49.439 --> 01:15:53.039
Luco's making four point two million dollars here and I
1389
01:15:53.039 --> 01:15:55.760
think the highest paid players there are making about a million,
1390
01:15:55.920 --> 01:16:00.039
So I don't know what the offer is, but I
1391
01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:03.319
don't see that one happening, and unless there's an MLS
1392
01:16:03.399 --> 01:16:06.119
team that's going to swoop in, which could happen. Teams
1393
01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:08.279
are kind of at the end of the you know,
1394
01:16:08.359 --> 01:16:10.560
right before the season, you kind of tend to see
1395
01:16:10.600 --> 01:16:14.159
a flurry of movements just trying to finalize his rosters.
1396
01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:18.840
There's a player named a vander that's with Portland and
1397
01:16:18.920 --> 01:16:21.119
he's on in camp with them right now. He's kind
1398
01:16:21.119 --> 01:16:24.119
of dealing with some things with them and that he
1399
01:16:24.159 --> 01:16:28.439
wants to leave, and he would be a suitable replacement
1400
01:16:28.600 --> 01:16:32.479
for Luco. They're very similar in their attacking skills. But
1401
01:16:33.399 --> 01:16:36.279
I would say right now two weeks from the season,
1402
01:16:36.920 --> 01:16:39.319
unless you know, I guess you have to kind of
1403
01:16:39.319 --> 01:16:42.479
plan on Luco being there. But if he's not even
1404
01:16:42.479 --> 01:16:44.720
in training with the team at this point, it kind
1405
01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:47.279
of seems like they're really trying to move on.
1406
01:16:48.119 --> 01:16:50.960
So one more, you're generous with your time. Laurel Faylor
1407
01:16:51.039 --> 01:16:54.840
Queen City Press. You know, he's the MVP two years
1408
01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:56.119
ago and they had the best team at least in
1409
01:16:56.159 --> 01:16:58.199
the regular season in the league. And even though last
1410
01:16:58.279 --> 01:17:01.119
year kind of got sideways over the second half of
1411
01:17:01.159 --> 01:17:04.279
the season, you know, they were still considered a contender
1412
01:17:04.439 --> 01:17:07.159
in the Eastern Conference, and Luco at times last year
1413
01:17:07.159 --> 01:17:09.119
it felt like they were asking him to do way
1414
01:17:09.159 --> 01:17:11.800
too much. If you take him off of this year's team,
1415
01:17:12.479 --> 01:17:14.199
how many wrongs do you knock him down?
1416
01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:20.840
I mean, I think by the summer they they would
1417
01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:23.119
be able to rally. I think they have enough talent
1418
01:17:23.199 --> 01:17:27.680
on this team that they can still you know, the defense.
1419
01:17:27.720 --> 01:17:30.039
I think if Matt Miask is back, I think they're
1420
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:32.640
gonna be a lot better defensively. Hopefully that can keep
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them in a lot of games. But I mean, he
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is You saw anyone that watches this team when Luco
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01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:41.039
was not on the field because he's injury or whatever
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01:17:41.159 --> 01:17:44.239
was going on, it looked a lot different. So it
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01:17:44.359 --> 01:17:47.880
is a huge piece to be missing. It's like relying
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01:17:47.920 --> 01:17:53.800
on you know, Big Browning instead of Joe Burrow. You know,
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01:17:53.880 --> 01:17:57.399
they did okay, you know, but they didn't make the playoffs,
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01:17:57.800 --> 01:18:03.560
and yeah, so I would say it, it doesn't look
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01:18:03.600 --> 01:18:06.640
great not having him on the field. He is there, creative.
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01:18:06.680 --> 01:18:09.800
They'd spend all this money, sixteen point two million dollars
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01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:12.000
to bring in this new forward, Kevin Denka, and they
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01:18:12.039 --> 01:18:14.760
have no one to throw them ball to him to
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01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:17.439
put it in football terms, like he's I guess the
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01:18:17.520 --> 01:18:23.079
Jamar chase now, So yeah, it's it's gonna look a
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01:18:23.119 --> 01:18:26.319
lot different without Luto. That's why it's so critical that
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01:18:26.359 --> 01:18:29.520
they either figure this out and get a replacement in
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01:18:29.560 --> 01:18:31.520
as soon as possible, or I just I don't know
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01:18:31.560 --> 01:18:34.079
how they're gonna manage without him.
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01:18:34.800 --> 01:18:38.960
This points Subscribe to Laurel's work, go to Queencitypress dot net.
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doing this. I hope you do it again and enjoy
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what's left of the preseason. It feels like every day
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01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:52.119
there's something new, so we'll be reading. Thanks so much,
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thank you, you got it. Laurel Faylor, Queen Citypress dot net.
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A chaotic preseason and offseas for FC Cincinnati. We associate
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01:19:02.279 --> 01:19:05.880
the Bengals right now with chaos. Chaos is the word
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01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:08.000
of the day there with the Orange and Blue. With
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01:19:08.079 --> 01:19:11.079
the season opener closing in very very quickly, eight away
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01:19:11.119 --> 01:19:16.199
from five o'clock, Joe Burrows media tour was kicked in
1451
01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:19.119
the hyperdrive today. He didn't say much that was new
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01:19:19.199 --> 01:19:21.239
but he did talk. I love it. We'll get to
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01:19:21.279 --> 01:19:24.439
that the Bearcats won last night, which is important. How
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01:19:24.479 --> 01:19:27.119
they won matters a lot more, and we'll spend a
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01:19:27.159 --> 01:19:29.880
few minutes with Travis Steel as well. Coming up at
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five thirty five, plus a poll question that I just
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yours at United Heartland Insurance. A lot to get to
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thirty on Molegran. Thank you for listening, how for having
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an Austin Thursday.
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Uh.
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In thirty minutes, Travis Steele joins us Miami. Miami is
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a good team this year, one loss of the MAC.
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They've bounced back nicely from their game against Akron, which
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call it what it is. They got blown out, but
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they have They have bounced back nicely. They are offensively,
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really fun to watch, and their next two games were
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at home. So m u's head coach is going to
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join us. Always enjoy having Travis on the show and
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have for many years, so we look forward to that.
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01:21:10.520 --> 01:21:13.319
Coming up in thirty minutes, you'll hear Wes Miller in
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01:21:13.359 --> 01:21:17.399
the aftermath of his team's performance last night. The takeaway
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01:21:17.600 --> 01:21:20.800
from the UC win last night is similar to the
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takeaway from UC's loss on Sunday. I'll explain why coming
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up in just about fifteen minutes. The Joe Burrow media
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01:21:29.640 --> 01:21:32.960
tour really got underway today. Today was his day in
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01:21:32.960 --> 01:21:35.279
the spotlight. So he's down there. He's in New Orleans.
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01:21:35.279 --> 01:21:39.399
All the major sports talk shows, all the major TV shows,
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01:21:39.680 --> 01:21:41.680
all those shows where they shout at each other. I
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01:21:41.680 --> 01:21:43.439
guess they're all down there in New Orleans, and so
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Joe is making the rounds and he's being asked a
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lot of the same questions, and you know what the
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answers are going to be. I'll play one of the
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pieces of audio for you. This is from first take.
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01:21:51.640 --> 01:21:54.520
He's on first take, and I want you to listen
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01:21:54.600 --> 01:21:56.720
to Joe's answer to the question that he gets here
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01:21:56.720 --> 01:21:59.159
from Steven A. Smith. I also want you to listen
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01:21:59.239 --> 01:22:02.279
to the reaction that Joe Burrow gets from the people
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01:22:02.319 --> 01:22:04.880
that he's talking to on first take, Tar and go
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01:22:04.880 --> 01:22:05.479
ahead hit that.
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01:22:06.159 --> 01:22:08.720
I have to confess I'm very worried about you with
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01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:11.439
what you're saying. We got to keep Jama Chase, we
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01:22:11.520 --> 01:22:13.720
got to keep t Higgins, we got to keep it.
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01:22:14.880 --> 01:22:18.159
You got to keep a whole bunch. This is Cincinnati now,
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01:22:18.479 --> 01:22:21.319
I mean, this is that ownership. You you confident that
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01:22:21.359 --> 01:22:23.359
they're gonna be They're going to be willing to keep
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all of those guys.
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01:22:24.439 --> 01:22:26.720
The cap is going up each year, we just got
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new TV deals, continue to go on money, yep. And
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01:22:31.880 --> 01:22:33.600
you know we're we all want to stay together, so
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01:22:33.640 --> 01:22:35.840
we're all going to do what it takes to do that.
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01:22:36.319 --> 01:22:40.560
And you know, we have great players that have done
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01:22:40.600 --> 01:22:43.119
great things and deserve to be paid. They're going to
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01:22:43.199 --> 01:22:44.760
be paid what they're worth, whether we do it or
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01:22:44.800 --> 01:22:47.520
somebody else. I hope we do it. I think you know,
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01:22:47.560 --> 01:22:50.119
we've had the discussions that the guys are going to
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01:22:50.199 --> 01:22:52.600
get paid that need to get paid, and so it's
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01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:54.399
a it's a big offseason for the Bengals.
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01:22:55.119 --> 01:23:01.880
He got laughed at. He's giving his answer. Can I
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01:23:01.960 --> 01:23:05.199
get Taran get one more time? Because I just this
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01:23:05.319 --> 01:23:07.640
is just it's funny. We we've been in that situation
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01:23:07.640 --> 01:23:09.880
where like you get asked a question and while you're
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01:23:09.960 --> 01:23:12.399
answering it, the person is maybe it just happens to
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01:23:12.439 --> 01:23:14.560
me and Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow and I have that
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01:23:14.600 --> 01:23:16.720
in common. You're giving the answer and you're getting laughed.
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01:23:16.720 --> 01:23:17.880
I give that to me one more time.
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01:23:19.600 --> 01:23:21.920
The cap is going up each year. We just got
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01:23:21.920 --> 01:23:25.760
new TV deals for continue to go a money yep,
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01:23:25.920 --> 01:23:28.680
and you know we're we all want to stay together,
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01:23:28.760 --> 01:23:30.000
so we're all going to do what it takes to
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01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:34.439
do that. And you know, we have great players that
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01:23:35.279 --> 01:23:38.079
have done great things and deserve to be paid. They're
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01:23:38.119 --> 01:23:39.720
going to be paid what they're worth, whether we do
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01:23:39.760 --> 01:23:40.520
it or somebody else.
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01:23:40.680 --> 01:23:41.520
I hope we do it.
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01:23:41.600 --> 01:23:44.680
I think, you know, we've had the discussions that the
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01:23:44.680 --> 01:23:46.680
guys are going to get paid that need to get paid,
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01:23:46.720 --> 01:23:49.039
and so it's a it's a big off season for
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the Bengals.
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01:23:49.840 --> 01:23:52.039
It's a big off season for the Bengals, you know.
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01:23:52.119 --> 01:23:55.880
Austin Elmore, part of Since E three sixty before us
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01:23:55.920 --> 01:23:58.279
from Noon to three on ESPN fifteen thirty, made the
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01:23:58.319 --> 01:24:02.000
point that Joe Burrow is putting pressure on the Bengals,
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01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:04.680
and that's obviously something he has been doing now for
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01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:07.640
quite a while, but he's also to a degree, putting
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01:24:07.680 --> 01:24:12.079
pressure on his teammates. Austin mentioned this today on Since
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01:24:12.079 --> 01:24:14.760
He three sixty and put it on social media as well. Like,
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01:24:14.960 --> 01:24:18.079
you know, he keeps talking about like we we're gonna
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01:24:18.119 --> 01:24:20.520
do what it takes. We're all gonna do what it takes.
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01:24:20.560 --> 01:24:23.359
I mean, to a degree that is kind of it's
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pointing the finger at the front office, and maybe to
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a degree it's pointing the finger at himself. But there's
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01:24:27.760 --> 01:24:30.680
also like we want guys to get paid, but like
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01:24:30.800 --> 01:24:33.279
guys getting paid and doing what it takes doesn't mean
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01:24:33.439 --> 01:24:37.720
handing over a blank check. Jamar Chase, more than anybody
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01:24:37.720 --> 01:24:41.439
in this conversation here, has earned the right to demand
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01:24:41.479 --> 01:24:43.479
a blank check. He was the best wide receiver in
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01:24:43.520 --> 01:24:47.119
the sport. Last year, he won the Triple Crown. He's
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01:24:47.159 --> 01:24:50.159
been awesome since he got here. The asking price was
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01:24:50.479 --> 01:24:54.319
enormous and understandably so last summer and since last summer
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01:24:54.600 --> 01:24:57.640
he had an unbelievable twenty twenty four. Might be named
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01:24:57.640 --> 01:25:01.399
the Offensive Player of the Year tonight, and so blank
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01:25:01.479 --> 01:25:03.239
check for him. They're not going to give a blank
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01:25:03.319 --> 01:25:05.560
check to t Higgins and that they're not going to
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01:25:05.600 --> 01:25:08.560
give a blank check to Trey Hendrickson. And so there's
1571
01:25:08.560 --> 01:25:11.520
something to that here. It's it's about Duke Tobin, it's
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01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:14.079
about the front office, and it's about Joe Burrow throwing
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01:25:14.119 --> 01:25:16.560
his weight around or putting a squeeze on him. But
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01:25:16.600 --> 01:25:19.760
it's it is to a degree, it's also about his teammates.
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01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:21.880
There are two parts of that that you just heard,
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01:25:21.920 --> 01:25:24.640
beyond them laughing at him, that you can you can
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01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:28.039
choose to read into. One is the we're all gonna
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01:25:28.079 --> 01:25:33.520
do what it takes now, We're all is it's it's
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01:25:33.600 --> 01:25:35.479
him in the front office. It's him and Tea. It's
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01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:37.760
him and Trey, it's him and Mike is sicky, it's
1581
01:25:37.960 --> 01:25:40.640
it's him and Jamarga. We're all gonna do what it takes.
1582
01:25:41.800 --> 01:25:44.960
And he also talked about we've had discussions those two things.
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01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:48.840
I think you could try to read into and and
1584
01:25:48.840 --> 01:25:51.960
and you can read into it this way, hey, based
1585
01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:54.600
on knowing that we're all gonna do what it takes,
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01:25:55.279 --> 01:25:58.560
and based on the discussions we've had, I can speak
1587
01:25:58.600 --> 01:26:04.039
with confidence that this can be done and will be done.
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01:26:04.239 --> 01:26:08.880
That's good. Or you could read into it this way
1589
01:26:09.119 --> 01:26:12.199
based on the discussions we've had. I'm gonna have to
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01:26:12.199 --> 01:26:16.640
put more public pressure to get what I want. This
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01:26:16.880 --> 01:26:22.199
is awesome. It is creating discomfort. The Bengals are having
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01:26:22.199 --> 01:26:25.800
their cage rattled. That's not a bad thing. This is
1593
01:26:25.800 --> 01:26:29.239
a franchise that has long existed in its own comfort zone.
1594
01:26:29.279 --> 01:26:33.359
They've deviated from it in recent years on a few occasions,
1595
01:26:33.640 --> 01:26:36.479
but it is a franchise that has often existed in
1596
01:26:36.760 --> 01:26:42.720
its it's its comfort zone. I'm going to guess that
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01:26:42.920 --> 01:26:49.119
Joe Burrow doing this makes them at least slightly uncomfortable.
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01:26:49.199 --> 01:26:53.840
That's okay. By the way he's putting pressure on the Bengals.
1599
01:26:54.880 --> 01:26:59.039
He's also kind of putting pressure on himself. Like in
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01:26:59.359 --> 01:27:03.159
any situation, if you go to your boss and you say,
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01:27:03.520 --> 01:27:08.079
I need this, I need this, I need this, I
1602
01:27:08.199 --> 01:27:11.000
need these things, do what you gotta do to get them,
1603
01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:15.000
and then you don't get the job done, guess who
1604
01:27:15.039 --> 01:27:19.319
the finger gets pointed at. Hey, you think about it,
1605
01:27:19.399 --> 01:27:22.760
like Joe Burrow. The Bengals didn't make the playoffs this year.
1606
01:27:23.119 --> 01:27:27.840
Joe Burrow got and deserved a pass that there are
1607
01:27:27.880 --> 01:27:30.000
people who yell and screen that he's not elite because
1608
01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:31.960
the Bengals didn't make the postseason, which makes it feel
1609
01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:34.520
like it's on Joe. But it's not like we love
1610
01:27:34.600 --> 01:27:39.520
Joe's an MVP finalist. Joe has a popularity rating in
1611
01:27:39.520 --> 01:27:41.880
this town that is unlike any that I've seen from
1612
01:27:41.880 --> 01:27:44.840
an athlete in a very long time, and understandably so.
1613
01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:49.079
Right he is viewed as kind of a sympathetic figure
1614
01:27:49.119 --> 01:27:51.640
in some circle. Scott, poor Joe Burrow. Yeah he's great.
1615
01:27:51.680 --> 01:27:54.880
Yeah he's getting paid, But guy's not gonna make the playoffs.
1616
01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:58.760
Guys can't compete for a championship. He's telling you, here's
1617
01:27:58.800 --> 01:28:02.359
what I need, So I mean he's he's putting pressure
1618
01:28:02.399 --> 01:28:05.760
on the franchise. He's putting some pressure on his teammates.
1619
01:28:06.119 --> 01:28:10.439
As Austin pointed out, he's also kind of putting it
1620
01:28:10.479 --> 01:28:13.479
on himself because if they do it his way and
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01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:17.039
it doesn't work, Okay, Joe, we did it your way,
1622
01:28:17.399 --> 01:28:21.640
it didn't work, that's on you. Now what's the fallout
1623
01:28:21.640 --> 01:28:24.680
from that? You know, who knows. But that's when Joe
1624
01:28:24.720 --> 01:28:27.399
gets talked about more. That's when you get annoyed at
1625
01:28:27.439 --> 01:28:29.640
what they say, we about Joe Burrow. Now, wait till
1626
01:28:29.840 --> 01:28:32.399
Joe gets his way and they don't win, then it
1627
01:28:32.439 --> 01:28:35.119
becomes a Joe Burrow problem. Then it becomes a reflection
1628
01:28:35.199 --> 01:28:38.760
of Joe Burrow. So yeah, I mean, because the easy
1629
01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:42.199
way out is eh, you know, they do it not
1630
01:28:42.399 --> 01:28:46.000
my way. We don't win, not my fault. I don't
1631
01:28:46.039 --> 01:28:50.720
get blamed. He's putting pressure on himself. He's making people uncomfortable.
1632
01:28:51.279 --> 01:28:54.960
I like it. We got folks waiting on the hold.
1633
01:28:55.439 --> 01:28:57.640
We'll talking about the Bearcat game last night here in
1634
01:28:58.079 --> 01:28:59.800
just a few minutes, and you'll hear Wes Miller talking
1635
01:28:59.840 --> 01:29:04.159
to out Dodgeball. But first I I You're on ESPN
1636
01:29:04.199 --> 01:29:05.880
fifteen thirty, Good afternoon.
1637
01:29:07.159 --> 01:29:12.279
Hey man, So I'm losing sleep. Man, I'm just worried.
1638
01:29:12.399 --> 01:29:19.199
You know, I'm sitting here thinking the issue with drafting
1639
01:29:19.359 --> 01:29:23.800
and that fails of previous years and all of the
1640
01:29:23.840 --> 01:29:28.199
instances that we've been talking about, thinking about what is
1641
01:29:28.319 --> 01:29:35.399
realistic with the Bengals front office bringing in like some
1642
01:29:35.680 --> 01:29:42.239
other specialists that helps analyze these potential picks. Is that realistic?
1643
01:29:42.479 --> 01:29:45.359
Or am I far off? Would they just stick with
1644
01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:49.439
the same old group are they when they have this
1645
01:29:49.560 --> 01:29:54.000
scrutiny and talking about rattling a cage? They want to get,
1646
01:29:54.079 --> 01:29:58.600
you know, some more professional people to come in. I
1647
01:29:58.720 --> 01:30:02.079
know they keep it smaller. It's just I'm really wondering
1648
01:30:02.079 --> 01:30:02.439
about that.
1649
01:30:02.560 --> 01:30:02.760
Well.
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01:30:02.840 --> 01:30:07.479
I think there's a there's a difference between modernizing and expanding.
1651
01:30:07.640 --> 01:30:11.119
I think the Bengals have modernized. I think the Bengals
1652
01:30:11.199 --> 01:30:13.680
use I mean, they use analytics, they have an analytics person,
1653
01:30:13.720 --> 01:30:18.359
They've they've used more modern methods of player evaluation. Uh
1654
01:30:18.399 --> 01:30:21.159
So I don't worry so much about that. I think
1655
01:30:21.199 --> 01:30:25.439
it's fair to wonder about the size of the scouting department,
1656
01:30:25.479 --> 01:30:29.560
the personnel department, just because I think more voices means
1657
01:30:29.600 --> 01:30:33.039
more information, which could lend to better decision making, and
1658
01:30:33.079 --> 01:30:36.479
in that regard, my guess is what they're at now
1659
01:30:36.520 --> 01:30:38.920
from a from a body count perspective is not going
1660
01:30:39.000 --> 01:30:39.479
to change.
1661
01:30:41.800 --> 01:30:47.159
K another thing. Yesterday or the day before, you were
1662
01:30:47.199 --> 01:30:50.000
talking about what is it called the nile or the
1663
01:30:50.239 --> 01:30:55.800
transport for portal and then talking about players getting money
1664
01:30:55.920 --> 01:30:59.920
like before getting out of college and going to pro lead.
1665
01:31:01.800 --> 01:31:04.119
I don't disagree with your point.
1666
01:31:03.880 --> 01:31:07.399
But I just think that maybe you see is a good.
1667
01:31:07.239 --> 01:31:11.880
Example of when it fails, it really fails. Maybe is
1668
01:31:11.920 --> 01:31:16.000
there a way that they can add incentive to say,
1669
01:31:16.239 --> 01:31:20.920
you get Dutch and such money if a performance incentive
1670
01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:21.880
to keep these.
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01:31:21.720 --> 01:31:23.079
Guys in check?
1672
01:31:23.279 --> 01:31:27.159
Or is that wildly to out there. I just wonder
1673
01:31:27.199 --> 01:31:27.600
about that.
1674
01:31:27.880 --> 01:31:28.479
You know what I mean?
1675
01:31:28.720 --> 01:31:32.119
Well, I mean the players are allowed to pursue their
1676
01:31:32.239 --> 01:31:34.479
their own deals in addition to what they might be
1677
01:31:34.520 --> 01:31:37.600
getting from a from a collective. My guess is, and
1678
01:31:37.640 --> 01:31:41.560
it's it's a fair question. My guess is that deals
1679
01:31:41.600 --> 01:31:46.039
with certain businesses or collectives would dictate that, hey, we
1680
01:31:46.199 --> 01:31:49.239
we at least need you to, you know, finish the season.
1681
01:31:50.119 --> 01:31:53.199
I don't know that you could structure an NIL package
1682
01:31:53.239 --> 01:31:56.399
that is based on points per game or minutes played
1683
01:31:56.520 --> 01:32:02.199
or things of that nature. But you know, look, there
1684
01:32:02.199 --> 01:32:05.760
are three hundred and fifty Division I college basketball programs.
1685
01:32:06.159 --> 01:32:09.960
Maybe not all of them have great NIL packages, but
1686
01:32:10.119 --> 01:32:14.399
many of them do. Some it's not gonna go well.
1687
01:32:14.840 --> 01:32:18.039
Some it is gonna go well like that. That's that's fine.
1688
01:32:18.520 --> 01:32:22.039
And anecdotally, man, you might have a player who goes, look,
1689
01:32:22.119 --> 01:32:24.199
I especially a guy who's like not going to make
1690
01:32:24.239 --> 01:32:27.960
the NBA. I got my money, I'm good. Or I
1691
01:32:28.079 --> 01:32:30.800
got my money, and you know what, now I've gotten
1692
01:32:30.840 --> 01:32:32.680
a taste of it, I want to go get more
1693
01:32:32.760 --> 01:32:35.520
I got I mean, it can affect people, right, but
1694
01:32:35.560 --> 01:32:38.279
you got to identify the people that doesn't affect. And
1695
01:32:38.359 --> 01:32:41.560
so it's not the portals issue. It's not the the
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01:32:41.680 --> 01:32:45.560
nil's issue. It's it's an issue with having the right people.
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01:32:46.119 --> 01:32:49.479
If you if you hire somebody and you pay them
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01:32:49.479 --> 01:32:51.399
a fair wage and a good amount of money, and
1699
01:32:51.439 --> 01:32:53.439
you give them what they want, and you know what,
1700
01:32:53.520 --> 01:32:56.039
they don't get the job done. It's not the money's fault.
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01:32:56.079 --> 01:32:59.600
It's not. It's not the fault of the compensation package.
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01:32:59.680 --> 01:33:02.319
You iired the wrong person, and I think the same
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01:33:02.359 --> 01:33:03.199
thing kind of applies.
1704
01:33:06.199 --> 01:33:10.359
I'll end with this man bold prediction. I really think.
1705
01:33:10.760 --> 01:33:12.520
I don't understand it feels.
1706
01:33:12.199 --> 01:33:15.720
Like I'm in some kind of alternate universe. People not
1707
01:33:16.600 --> 01:33:21.840
thinking very high on the Ces. I don't understand it.
1708
01:33:21.920 --> 01:33:24.960
I think he's gonna be a monster. And I also
1709
01:33:25.159 --> 01:33:29.399
think that Andrew Abbot is a really good chance to
1710
01:33:29.960 --> 01:33:32.479
just really impress people. I think that guy's got a
1711
01:33:32.520 --> 01:33:35.760
really well rounded game and he's just something about him. Man,
1712
01:33:36.199 --> 01:33:37.319
and that that's all I got.
1713
01:33:37.399 --> 01:33:40.479
I'll buy, I'll buy, and I will buy all the
1714
01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:44.800
Andrew Abbott and Cees stock that that nobody wants. I
1715
01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:48.039
was gonna do this today and I'm probably gonna have
1716
01:33:48.079 --> 01:33:50.920
to push it to tomorrow. I will make this Red's admission.
1717
01:33:53.399 --> 01:33:57.319
I have no idea. Like we were talking about it
1718
01:33:57.359 --> 01:34:00.640
in the office, the Baseball Perspectives project that had him
1719
01:34:00.680 --> 01:34:03.680
winning seventy three and a half games. I don't agree
1720
01:34:03.680 --> 01:34:10.039
with that. It's not implausible. And I don't think it's
1721
01:34:10.039 --> 01:34:12.680
implausible to think about this team as a playoff team either.
1722
01:34:12.760 --> 01:34:17.279
Like the range of possibilities this season feels enormous, and
1723
01:34:17.319 --> 01:34:18.880
I know I kind of went down this road a
1724
01:34:18.920 --> 01:34:25.159
little bit last year, but I've never had I've never
1725
01:34:25.239 --> 01:34:27.880
had less. I'm not going to be able to tell
1726
01:34:27.880 --> 01:34:30.880
you with any amount of certainty where I think the
1727
01:34:30.920 --> 01:34:34.000
Reds are going to finish win loss wise. Maybe I'll
1728
01:34:34.079 --> 01:34:36.159
change my mind by the time spring training is coming
1729
01:34:36.159 --> 01:34:39.840
to an end. I don't know, and so I might
1730
01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:42.199
turn that into a little bit of a topic tomorrow.
1731
01:34:42.239 --> 01:34:44.840
But I'm a big Andrew Rabbit guy. I mean, you know,
1732
01:34:45.039 --> 01:34:48.119
he's still just twenty five years old. He's not gotten
1733
01:34:48.119 --> 01:34:50.199
through a full big league season. But when he was
1734
01:34:50.239 --> 01:34:54.399
on the mound last year, there wasn't much to not like.
1735
01:34:54.520 --> 01:34:56.760
I thought he was consistent. I thought he built upon
1736
01:34:56.800 --> 01:35:00.680
what he did last year. I would have loved to
1737
01:35:00.720 --> 01:35:02.800
have seen him get through the entire year. But I
1738
01:35:03.399 --> 01:35:04.479
like Andrew Rabbit a lot.
1739
01:35:04.560 --> 01:35:04.760
You know.
1740
01:35:05.079 --> 01:35:08.319
I thought, you know, in August he wasn't very good,
1741
01:35:08.319 --> 01:35:09.800
But to the course of the season, if you look
1742
01:35:09.800 --> 01:35:11.720
at his numbers from the beginning of the year until
1743
01:35:11.760 --> 01:35:13.920
things kind of fell off a cliff in August, he
1744
01:35:14.039 --> 01:35:16.680
was really really good. And cees, we're not that far
1745
01:35:16.760 --> 01:35:18.520
removed from drooling over what he did when he got
1746
01:35:18.560 --> 01:35:21.520
called up in twenty twenty three. And I'm not discounting
1747
01:35:21.560 --> 01:35:23.920
that just because last season was a lost one for him.
1748
01:35:24.680 --> 01:35:27.760
Nineteen minutes after five o'clock Travis Steel in fifteen minutes,
1749
01:35:28.439 --> 01:35:31.359
Wes Miller on Dodgeball and thoughts on his team.
1750
01:35:31.439 --> 01:35:38.479
Next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Traffic from the UC.
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01:35:38.479 --> 01:35:41.840
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Expect more at UCHealth dot com. Southbound Dixie Highway. It's
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01:35:53.319 --> 01:35:57.640
an accident ne or Kenton Lands Road on Mary Ingles Highway.
1756
01:35:57.680 --> 01:36:00.960
An accident between New Richmond and pain to road. Traffic
1757
01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:04.239
being directed around that area. And ken Log at eight
1758
01:36:04.279 --> 01:36:07.800
Mile Road. It's an accident that he's like with traffic.
1759
01:36:08.359 --> 01:36:13.039
This report twenty four after five. This is ESPN fifteen thirty.
1760
01:36:13.119 --> 01:36:16.039
Join us tomorrow at Twin Peaks in Westchester. We're doing
1761
01:36:16.079 --> 01:36:18.119
our show from there, so that's why we're telling you
1762
01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:23.920
to go. And if if you come to Twin Peaks
1763
01:36:24.399 --> 01:36:28.000
and say hi and then order to go a meatball
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01:36:28.079 --> 01:36:30.920
skillet and bring it to the radio station for Tarren Bland,
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01:36:31.920 --> 01:36:34.439
you'll be the ESPN fifteen thirty listener of the Week.
1766
01:36:37.520 --> 01:36:39.800
And I can't think of a more prestigious title.
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01:36:39.920 --> 01:36:42.279
I'll return the favorite when we do our ESPN fifteen thirty,
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01:36:42.279 --> 01:36:43.439
adding for the risk Indussue.
1769
01:36:43.520 --> 01:36:45.279
Oh yeah, Taran, we'll return the favor. What are you
1770
01:36:45.319 --> 01:36:48.119
gonna Are you gonna buy their ticket? Buy a beery
1771
01:36:48.479 --> 01:36:49.159
snow cone.
1772
01:36:49.319 --> 01:36:51.239
I about them, I about them A cheap ticket.
1773
01:36:51.239 --> 01:36:53.119
Bye, a cheap ticket. Very good? All right, all right,
1774
01:36:53.159 --> 01:36:55.119
well keep that in mind now all my man watches
1775
01:36:55.159 --> 01:36:59.439
a meatball skillet. You see. All I wanted was to
1776
01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:02.359
see the barricad win last night, which they did, and
1777
01:37:03.279 --> 01:37:06.840
they look good doing it, especially offensively. The key, according
1778
01:37:06.840 --> 01:37:10.279
to Wes Miller, was not so much anything that has
1779
01:37:10.319 --> 01:37:12.000
to do with basketball, but another sport.
1780
01:37:14.600 --> 01:37:17.720
I think people sometimes like I don't listen to the
1781
01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:20.960
criticism and all that, Like I don't read the you know,
1782
01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:21.279
I don't.
1783
01:37:21.319 --> 01:37:22.840
I just my personality.
1784
01:37:22.880 --> 01:37:25.439
I'm too edgy and I just want to fight everybody,
1785
01:37:25.439 --> 01:37:26.479
and that that's not healthy.
1786
01:37:26.520 --> 01:37:28.239
So I learned as a player a long time ago.
1787
01:37:29.239 --> 01:37:31.319
I'm not the type person that it's not healthy for
1788
01:37:31.399 --> 01:37:33.159
me to read it or listen to it. But people
1789
01:37:33.199 --> 01:37:35.560
that I have relationships with, you know, tell me all
1790
01:37:35.600 --> 01:37:36.239
the time, you're so.
1791
01:37:36.199 --> 01:37:37.279
Reserved during the games.
1792
01:37:37.319 --> 01:37:39.920
I'm like, come to practice, I'm you know, and I'm
1793
01:37:40.000 --> 01:37:43.039
I drive hard and I've been driving very hard, and
1794
01:37:43.119 --> 01:37:46.319
so I think the kids expected that on Monday. So
1795
01:37:46.319 --> 01:37:50.159
we came to they they lifted, they stretched, and they
1796
01:37:50.199 --> 01:37:52.359
came to the jump circle and I said, all right, guys,
1797
01:37:53.439 --> 01:37:55.640
we uh when I was in college, one time we
1798
01:37:55.680 --> 01:37:56.520
went through a bad stretch.
1799
01:37:56.560 --> 01:37:57.319
It's true story.
1800
01:37:57.359 --> 01:38:01.359
And you know, my college coach took the rims off
1801
01:38:01.439 --> 01:38:04.399
off the all the goals in the practice gym and
1802
01:38:04.439 --> 01:38:07.199
he said, hey, we're gonna go practice. This ain't about
1803
01:38:07.199 --> 01:38:09.960
the story, he said. My college said, hey, we're going
1804
01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:11.720
to go practice in the practice gym. We're gonna run
1805
01:38:11.720 --> 01:38:13.560
into the practice gym and we're gonna practice here all
1806
01:38:13.560 --> 01:38:16.039
week with no rims. And I mean, we're playing full
1807
01:38:16.039 --> 01:38:18.279
practice shooting three pointers. To know it was I mean,
1808
01:38:18.720 --> 01:38:20.039
and he said that we're gonna call it the pit,
1809
01:38:20.319 --> 01:38:22.000
and I mean, it's one of those things that we
1810
01:38:22.039 --> 01:38:25.319
all still talk about. And I said, guys, I said,
1811
01:38:26.079 --> 01:38:28.880
let's go down to the practice gym. And you know,
1812
01:38:28.920 --> 01:38:30.760
we ran down to the practice gym and that some
1813
01:38:30.800 --> 01:38:32.760
of them looked like they, you know, were ready to
1814
01:38:32.800 --> 01:38:34.920
It was like a death march. But we go down
1815
01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:37.399
to the practice gym, and you know, they come to
1816
01:38:37.399 --> 01:38:39.640
the center circle. I said, all right, guys, what did
1817
01:38:39.640 --> 01:38:41.199
I say. I said, we're gonna take their rims off?
1818
01:38:41.199 --> 01:38:42.640
And I said no, no, no. I said, that's what
1819
01:38:42.680 --> 01:38:44.960
we did in college. I didn't say we were going
1820
01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:46.800
to do that today. I was just telling your story.
1821
01:38:47.039 --> 01:38:47.319
I said.
1822
01:38:47.319 --> 01:38:48.720
All I said is we're going to the practice gym.
1823
01:38:48.760 --> 01:38:51.119
Let's play some excuse my lane, Let's play some freaking dodgeball.
1824
01:38:51.159 --> 01:38:53.439
But gosh, remy you sorry, Let's play TENZ.
1825
01:38:53.640 --> 01:38:55.680
Pay attention back in the studio. We may need you
1826
01:38:55.680 --> 01:38:57.640
to hit that pause button. My mistake, but let's go.
1827
01:38:57.800 --> 01:39:01.800
Let's play some dodgeball and uh and quite frankly, I'm
1828
01:39:01.800 --> 01:39:04.640
not into gimmicks. That's not what I believe in. But
1829
01:39:06.800 --> 01:39:10.960
what I will say is that they had a blast.
1830
01:39:11.640 --> 01:39:13.920
We played as coaches, and shoot, I wasn't in a
1831
01:39:13.920 --> 01:39:16.960
good mood. I had a blast because we lost ourselves
1832
01:39:16.960 --> 01:39:21.079
and just competing, just pure competition, and.
1833
01:39:23.279 --> 01:39:28.319
Like it was better than I thought. They played dodgeball.
1834
01:39:30.479 --> 01:39:33.239
There you go. Went into the coaching aids and went
1835
01:39:33.319 --> 01:39:35.079
on to talk about how he's not a gimmicky head
1836
01:39:35.119 --> 01:39:37.560
coach went into the bag of gimmicks and pulled out dodgeball,
1837
01:39:37.600 --> 01:39:41.119
and it worked. They scored ninety three last night. They
1838
01:39:41.199 --> 01:39:45.199
had thirty eight made buckets. In the previous two games combined,
1839
01:39:45.199 --> 01:39:50.560
they had thirty nine. My take on Monday after the
1840
01:39:50.560 --> 01:39:53.680
game on Sunday was, it's not the loss. It's not
1841
01:39:53.720 --> 01:39:57.079
what it means for their tournament chances, which are needless
1842
01:39:57.079 --> 01:39:59.239
to say, hanging by a thread. It's not what it
1843
01:39:59.279 --> 01:40:03.840
means metrical. It's how it looked, how they played. I'll
1844
01:40:03.880 --> 01:40:07.800
say the same thing today. Yes, they needed a win. Yes,
1845
01:40:08.199 --> 01:40:12.840
if they have any hopes of having a successful season
1846
01:40:12.840 --> 01:40:15.800
that everybody's gonna feel good about, it had to start soon.
1847
01:40:16.039 --> 01:40:18.880
Last night might have been a starting off point. Talk
1848
01:40:18.920 --> 01:40:20.720
to me next week if they win their next two
1849
01:40:20.800 --> 01:40:22.960
about what the rest of the season may look like
1850
01:40:23.039 --> 01:40:26.800
and their chances of maybe still making the tournament. I
1851
01:40:27.520 --> 01:40:30.359
not concern with that at all. It's how they played
1852
01:40:31.600 --> 01:40:34.079
and its effort and its energy. But it's also loose.
1853
01:40:34.800 --> 01:40:37.399
And they initiated offense early, and they attacked the defense,
1854
01:40:37.439 --> 01:40:40.920
and they ran, and they had an answer for when
1855
01:40:41.039 --> 01:40:44.000
UCF would make things a little bit uncomfortable, and they
1856
01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:46.600
got great point guard play that looked like an unburdened
1857
01:40:46.680 --> 01:40:49.960
team that looked like a team playing in an open
1858
01:40:50.039 --> 01:40:54.520
gym setting, and it wasn't disorganized by any stretch that
1859
01:40:55.000 --> 01:40:56.600
I want to see more of that. WHI chat with
1860
01:40:56.640 --> 01:40:57.479
Travis Steel.
1861
01:40:57.279 --> 01:41:04.319
Next Cincinnati's PN fifteen thirty. Traffic from the UC Health
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more at UCHealth dot com. Mary Ingles Highway. It's an
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01:41:19.159 --> 01:41:23.039
accident between New Richmond and Painter Road. The double A Highway.
1867
01:41:23.119 --> 01:41:26.439
A good alternate route cell found seventy one seventy five.
1868
01:41:26.479 --> 01:41:29.359
It's an accident on the entrance ramp from Donaldson Roade.
1869
01:41:29.399 --> 01:41:33.359
The right shoulder blocked off there at Eazelic with traffic.
1870
01:41:33.600 --> 01:41:35.399
This report sponsored.
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Nine away from six. This is ESPN fifteen thirty on Moeger.
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01:41:42.520 --> 01:41:47.199
The Miami RedHawks are having an excellency's. Travis Steele's team
1874
01:41:47.399 --> 01:41:50.720
is seventeen and five, nine and one in the MAC
1875
01:41:51.439 --> 01:41:55.680
and was rewarded with a new contract extension, certainly well deserved.
1876
01:41:55.720 --> 01:41:58.279
His team has a consecutive home games, starting with a
1877
01:41:58.319 --> 01:42:01.479
one o'clock tip off against Troy on Saturday. They do
1878
01:42:01.560 --> 01:42:04.840
a tailgate told tip off promotion before the game on
1879
01:42:04.880 --> 01:42:08.000
Saturday where you can get three dollars drinks, two dollars
1880
01:42:08.039 --> 01:42:10.600
hot dogs and you're going to see a team that
1881
01:42:10.720 --> 01:42:13.239
offensively is among the best in the country and is
1882
01:42:13.600 --> 01:42:16.159
really fun to watch. It's always fun to have the
1883
01:42:16.199 --> 01:42:18.359
coach of the RedHawks on with us, Travis Steele. It's
1884
01:42:18.720 --> 01:42:20.279
it's good to have your coach. How are you.
1885
01:42:21.439 --> 01:42:23.319
I'm doing well, mode, Thanks for having me on.
1886
01:42:23.439 --> 01:42:26.520
I appreciate you doing this. I was watching I was
1887
01:42:26.560 --> 01:42:30.600
watching your press setting when you talked about the contract extension,
1888
01:42:30.640 --> 01:42:33.079
and he said, we're not where we want to be,
1889
01:42:33.359 --> 01:42:35.920
but we're not where we were referencing. You know when
1890
01:42:35.960 --> 01:42:38.960
you took the program over. I've got to think, just
1891
01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:41.199
based on the way things have unfolded since you got
1892
01:42:41.279 --> 01:42:43.840
to Oxford, you're really excited about where this could go.
1893
01:42:45.399 --> 01:42:45.800
I am.
1894
01:42:45.960 --> 01:42:48.119
You know, you know I got the trajector you know
1895
01:42:48.319 --> 01:42:50.279
I got this quote right above. My best says, be
1896
01:42:50.359 --> 01:42:55.199
obsessed with trajectory and not necessarily the result. And you know,
1897
01:42:55.239 --> 01:42:58.279
the first couple of years were tough. Mo to say
1898
01:42:58.279 --> 01:43:00.880
the least. I mean, then we took some losses and
1899
01:43:00.880 --> 01:43:03.640
and lost lost by forty a couple of different times.
1900
01:43:03.680 --> 01:43:07.720
And but we've grown, our talent's grown, our culture has
1901
01:43:07.760 --> 01:43:11.600
gotten a lot better. Just holistically as a program, we
1902
01:43:11.760 --> 01:43:14.359
were really adding in the right direction. And you know,
1903
01:43:14.399 --> 01:43:17.279
I've made every decision based on year three kind of
1904
01:43:17.319 --> 01:43:19.119
long term. You know, I didn't want to do any
1905
01:43:19.119 --> 01:43:22.600
short term things when building when building the program back
1906
01:43:22.640 --> 01:43:25.439
to where it should be. And because this hasn't proud,
1907
01:43:25.479 --> 01:43:27.680
there's a really really proud tradition here is all time
1908
01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:30.680
winning his program in the back. Albeit it's been a
1909
01:43:30.720 --> 01:43:33.399
while since we've won though, which is crazy to think
1910
01:43:33.399 --> 01:43:35.960
we're still the all whitting his program. So we just
1911
01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:38.840
got to get it back to that. And I'm very
1912
01:43:38.880 --> 01:43:41.600
fortunate to be here with President Crawford and and our
1913
01:43:41.640 --> 01:43:44.520
athletic director David Saylor. We got great leadership here at
1914
01:43:44.520 --> 01:43:45.239
the university.
1915
01:43:45.640 --> 01:43:47.520
Well, and if and if you're going to play the
1916
01:43:47.560 --> 01:43:50.439
long game and target year three, you know you you
1917
01:43:50.439 --> 01:43:52.079
you've got to work for people who kind of have
1918
01:43:52.159 --> 01:43:55.119
the same vision in mind, right, Yeah.
1919
01:43:55.159 --> 01:43:57.960
I told them before I took the job. I said, Hey,
1920
01:43:57.960 --> 01:43:59.560
I just want you guys to know I think it's
1921
01:43:59.560 --> 01:44:03.800
going to take two years to probably turn it, to
1922
01:44:03.800 --> 01:44:06.199
get the culture back to where where I want it.
1923
01:44:06.319 --> 01:44:08.479
And when I and I gave them the vision exactly,
1924
01:44:09.039 --> 01:44:10.880
I told them how I was going to be, how
1925
01:44:10.880 --> 01:44:14.840
it would look, the whole deal, and they said, no problem.
1926
01:44:14.880 --> 01:44:17.840
They were really patient with me, which I really appreciate,
1927
01:44:17.880 --> 01:44:20.800
and it's allowed me to build the right way and
1928
01:44:21.199 --> 01:44:24.680
not have to make any short term decisions or you know,
1929
01:44:24.760 --> 01:44:26.439
things that may hurt you in the long run, but
1930
01:44:26.640 --> 01:44:29.199
just that are good for the short term. So we've
1931
01:44:29.239 --> 01:44:31.319
been able to make every decision based about, you know,
1932
01:44:31.399 --> 01:44:34.239
what's best long term. And and again I'm very appreciative
1933
01:44:34.279 --> 01:44:36.880
of having that support from our athletic director and president.
1934
01:44:37.000 --> 01:44:39.960
So the goal is is year three. And yet I'm
1935
01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:42.079
sure as the season is unfolded and you have a
1936
01:44:42.079 --> 01:44:43.960
lot of basketball still in front of you, there have
1937
01:44:44.039 --> 01:44:46.520
been things that have happened with your club that maybe
1938
01:44:46.760 --> 01:44:48.920
have surprised you. Give me one or two of those things.
1939
01:44:50.560 --> 01:44:52.880
Yeah, you know, I think you know, we're really young.
1940
01:44:52.920 --> 01:44:55.279
We have one senior on the team, and to be
1941
01:44:55.319 --> 01:44:58.279
honest with you, that senior is not really in the rotation.
1942
01:44:58.520 --> 01:45:01.720
So I've been very pleased with how we've been able
1943
01:45:01.720 --> 01:45:06.119
to close games. I've been surprised we've been as good
1944
01:45:06.159 --> 01:45:08.520
as we have been in that area. Now we especially
1945
01:45:08.560 --> 01:45:11.079
with the youth that we have. Now they're good players,
1946
01:45:12.279 --> 01:45:14.600
then they're smart. You know, a couple of local guys,
1947
01:45:14.600 --> 01:45:17.800
Evans all right over there, Cuffcat, he's a point guard
1948
01:45:17.760 --> 01:45:19.479
and he's just he's a winner. You know, he's been
1949
01:45:19.520 --> 01:45:21.680
that way his whole life. But he is young. You know,
1950
01:45:21.720 --> 01:45:26.359
he's only a sophomore Ian Elmer tap product. He's young,
1951
01:45:26.359 --> 01:45:28.600
he's only a sophomore. But he's been thrusted at these
1952
01:45:28.600 --> 01:45:32.880
big moments his last two years. And and you know,
1953
01:45:32.960 --> 01:45:36.399
so I think that surprised me. The other thing that
1954
01:45:36.479 --> 01:45:38.199
I would say, Mo and I think this is the
1955
01:45:38.199 --> 01:45:41.279
strength of our team. It's just it's how we recruited him.
1956
01:45:41.279 --> 01:45:43.720
But you never really know to get everybody together. It's
1957
01:45:43.760 --> 01:45:47.000
just the connection that our guys have to one another
1958
01:45:47.680 --> 01:45:51.399
off the court. I think is really showed well on
1959
01:45:51.479 --> 01:45:53.439
the court. You know, like our guys have a true
1960
01:45:53.439 --> 01:45:56.359
love for each other. And you could tell our team
1961
01:45:56.439 --> 01:45:59.520
defense and our team offense, the way that we move
1962
01:45:59.600 --> 01:46:02.600
the ball, and there's just a great connection on our team.
1963
01:46:03.520 --> 01:46:03.640
Uh.
1964
01:46:03.840 --> 01:46:05.800
I don't want to bring up a bad memory. But
1965
01:46:05.920 --> 01:46:07.880
you know, there was I think a lot of interest
1966
01:46:07.920 --> 01:46:09.880
in the Akron game. But you guys both went in
1967
01:46:10.079 --> 01:46:12.159
unbeaten the league, and you go there and it doesn't
1968
01:46:12.199 --> 01:46:13.520
go your way. I call it what it is, and
1969
01:46:13.520 --> 01:46:16.960
so I'm always interested in, like, all right, what's the response, right, Like, okay,
1970
01:46:17.399 --> 01:46:19.880
you took one on the chin. Uh, there's a lot
1971
01:46:19.880 --> 01:46:22.720
of season in front of you. What's the response. Three
1972
01:46:22.760 --> 01:46:25.960
straight wins? I know, like the the Ou game, you
1973
01:46:25.960 --> 01:46:28.039
would have liked to have maybe finished that a little
1974
01:46:28.039 --> 01:46:29.960
bit stronger. The Central Michigan you get off to a
1975
01:46:29.960 --> 01:46:32.520
great start game, they come back, and you still figure
1976
01:46:32.560 --> 01:46:34.720
out a way to win. What did you learn about
1977
01:46:34.720 --> 01:46:37.720
your team in the aftermath of what happened against the Zips?
1978
01:46:38.880 --> 01:46:41.760
Yeah, it was. It was a tough loss. Man, it's embarrassing,
1979
01:46:41.880 --> 01:46:45.159
you know. I told our guys afterwards, you know, take
1980
01:46:45.199 --> 01:46:47.319
all emotion away from Ox. It's my brother up there
1981
01:46:47.319 --> 01:46:49.319
at accurate. It's like, man, I really there's a game
1982
01:46:49.359 --> 01:46:50.760
you want to win. I want to beat my brother.
1983
01:46:51.840 --> 01:46:53.560
I mean, so there's a lot of bragging rights that
1984
01:46:53.600 --> 01:46:56.079
are that are out there both for the whole year.
1985
01:46:56.479 --> 01:46:56.960
Uh.
1986
01:46:57.000 --> 01:47:00.239
But but I you know, like against an aborty and
1987
01:47:00.479 --> 01:47:02.119
I told the guys and sid fellas, we haven't looked
1988
01:47:02.159 --> 01:47:04.560
like that the entire year. And give Acro credit. They
1989
01:47:04.640 --> 01:47:09.039
played phenomenal. They could have probably beaten the Boston Celtics
1990
01:47:09.600 --> 01:47:13.199
that day, that's how good they played. And we played really,
1991
01:47:13.239 --> 01:47:16.199
really poorly. And I don't know if our program was
1992
01:47:16.359 --> 01:47:21.399
quite ready, you know for that moment. Both teams are
1993
01:47:21.399 --> 01:47:23.880
six and zero and getting a lot of national pub
1994
01:47:23.960 --> 01:47:26.840
and a lot of buzz, and you know, we haven't
1995
01:47:26.840 --> 01:47:29.680
been in that moment in a long time, probably twenty years,
1996
01:47:29.760 --> 01:47:32.720
you know, twenty some years. So it's Acron's been in
1997
01:47:32.760 --> 01:47:34.920
those moments, you know, and we want to be you
1998
01:47:34.960 --> 01:47:37.159
know the way and the way to succeed as you
1999
01:47:37.239 --> 01:47:38.760
have to fail a little bit, you know, that's part
2000
01:47:38.800 --> 01:47:42.000
of the part of the process. And we got right
2001
01:47:42.039 --> 01:47:44.880
back to work. I could tell right away with the
2002
01:47:44.920 --> 01:47:48.920
practices we had leading right after that Acron performance, I
2003
01:47:48.920 --> 01:47:51.920
was like, man, I got zero zero concerns. We got
2004
01:47:51.960 --> 01:47:56.119
such great player leadership with our three captains, evideb Sorrow
2005
01:47:56.239 --> 01:47:59.239
and Peter Souter who's a junior, and then Dan Lewis,
2006
01:47:59.239 --> 01:48:01.840
who is a senior with the Bishop Fenwick High school.
2007
01:48:02.039 --> 01:48:04.720
We got great leadership and those guys man like I said,
2008
01:48:04.760 --> 01:48:07.920
they they're winners, So I get head zero concerns about
2009
01:48:07.920 --> 01:48:08.720
how we'd respond.
2010
01:48:09.079 --> 01:48:13.119
There's recruiting players who fit the culture, and you've done that,
2011
01:48:13.199 --> 01:48:16.760
and there's acquiring talent and you've done that. But there's
2012
01:48:16.800 --> 01:48:19.279
also assembling a roster and getting the guys to play
2013
01:48:19.279 --> 01:48:21.720
with each other. And I think that's what stands out,
2014
01:48:21.800 --> 01:48:23.960
especially on the offensive end with your guys, not dislike
2015
01:48:24.039 --> 01:48:25.479
what you guys are on the other end of the floor,
2016
01:48:25.479 --> 01:48:28.319
but offensively, you guys are really fun to watch. Walk
2017
01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:31.560
me through the process of getting the guys that fit
2018
01:48:31.640 --> 01:48:33.359
your system, and the system at least to this point
2019
01:48:33.399 --> 01:48:34.840
in the season, having worked the way it has.
2020
01:48:36.039 --> 01:48:37.359
Yeah, I think number one.
2021
01:48:37.399 --> 01:48:39.880
Getting guys that have won before, you know, guys that
2022
01:48:40.119 --> 01:48:42.680
will put the team first, I think is super super
2023
01:48:42.680 --> 01:48:45.760
important in today's landscape. And I can get as many
2024
01:48:45.800 --> 01:48:48.960
guys out there that know how to play, they have
2025
01:48:49.039 --> 01:48:52.279
a basket YQ and that can shoot the ball. I mean,
2026
01:48:52.319 --> 01:48:56.600
I listen, are our ball really moves, we are affected
2027
01:48:56.640 --> 01:48:59.199
field goal percentages incredible, or a great shooting team or
2028
01:48:59.319 --> 01:49:00.000
high assist team.
2029
01:49:00.199 --> 01:49:01.000
We play fast.
2030
01:49:01.720 --> 01:49:03.880
I just let those guys loose, we give them. We
2031
01:49:04.399 --> 01:49:07.199
teach those guys how to play, and we don't run
2032
01:49:07.239 --> 01:49:10.359
many set plays. We just allow them to play. And
2033
01:49:10.479 --> 01:49:12.000
I have great trust in those guys.
2034
01:49:12.039 --> 01:49:12.359
Man.
2035
01:49:13.640 --> 01:49:16.720
They make the right basketball plays. And it's hard to scout.
2036
01:49:17.039 --> 01:49:19.399
It's hard to stop, especially because we have nine We
2037
01:49:19.439 --> 01:49:22.119
go nine deep most so it's like, you know, if
2038
01:49:22.119 --> 01:49:25.199
one guy's off that certain day, you know, odds are well,
2039
01:49:25.239 --> 01:49:26.920
we're gonna have somebody else step up. You know, we
2040
01:49:27.279 --> 01:49:30.600
have nine guys who can all start on our team.
2041
01:49:31.279 --> 01:49:33.600
Uh, you and I have talked about this before. This
2042
01:49:33.680 --> 01:49:35.920
is this is kind of a weird time of year.
2043
01:49:35.960 --> 01:49:37.880
We call it the dog days right where you've you've
2044
01:49:37.920 --> 01:49:40.000
been at it for so long, you still have weeks
2045
01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:42.680
of regular season games in front of you. You want
2046
01:49:42.680 --> 01:49:45.840
to challenge, uh for for a Mac regular season title.
2047
01:49:45.840 --> 01:49:48.039
We're gonna need Acronus slip up for that to happen.
2048
01:49:48.399 --> 01:49:49.960
You want to be at your best going into the
2049
01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:52.199
postseason tournament. Give me one or two things that you
2050
01:49:52.239 --> 01:49:54.399
feel like, okay, between now and then, we've got to
2051
01:49:54.399 --> 01:49:57.319
get better at. Yeah, I take number one.
2052
01:49:57.399 --> 01:49:59.520
You know, like you look at this thing and it's
2053
01:49:59.520 --> 01:50:02.039
like the MAC right now is a one big league, right,
2054
01:50:02.079 --> 01:50:05.479
it's called what it is. And you know, so it's like, man,
2055
01:50:05.560 --> 01:50:07.840
we have to win three games in three days in Cleveland,
2056
01:50:08.760 --> 01:50:11.159
and in order to do that, in my opinion, it's like, listen,
2057
01:50:11.199 --> 01:50:13.680
we're a great offensive team, but you're probably going to
2058
01:50:13.760 --> 01:50:18.079
have one off ninth out of those three. Can you
2059
01:50:18.199 --> 01:50:20.479
win that game? And the way you win that game
2060
01:50:20.560 --> 01:50:22.000
is you got to be really good on the defense
2061
01:50:22.039 --> 01:50:23.560
of that do you got to go to repound the ball?
2062
01:50:24.399 --> 01:50:27.680
Those two things will always give you a chance. And
2063
01:50:27.720 --> 01:50:29.800
I do think our defense is getting a lot better,
2064
01:50:31.359 --> 01:50:34.199
but it's still got a lot of areas to improve it.
2065
01:50:34.800 --> 01:50:37.520
And I think like as we continue to grow those
2066
01:50:37.560 --> 01:50:40.520
that's how we can. Like, for example, you mentioned earlier
2067
01:50:40.560 --> 01:50:42.600
in Ohio you game and it's like, man, we were
2068
01:50:42.680 --> 01:50:45.159
up by fourteen. It's like, man, can you put them away?
2069
01:50:45.560 --> 01:50:48.640
You put them away with your defense, right, it's to say,
2070
01:50:48.680 --> 01:50:51.359
thanks Central Michigan, you can we extend that fifteen point
2071
01:50:51.439 --> 01:50:54.479
lead to twenty. The way you do that is with
2072
01:50:54.560 --> 01:50:58.239
your defense. So we're never going to have an issue
2073
01:50:58.279 --> 01:51:01.640
scoring the ball with our crew. You know, we'll be
2074
01:51:01.640 --> 01:51:03.760
one of the top offensive teams, but the best teams
2075
01:51:03.800 --> 01:51:05.600
in March can do both. You got to be really
2076
01:51:05.600 --> 01:51:06.840
good on both ends.
2077
01:51:07.560 --> 01:51:07.720
Uh.
2078
01:51:07.800 --> 01:51:10.720
You had Wally's Urbiak in the house uh for that
2079
01:51:10.840 --> 01:51:14.760
game against ou and and you talked afterward about you know, look,
2080
01:51:14.800 --> 01:51:17.119
I first got here, you could hear a pin drop.
2081
01:51:17.560 --> 01:51:19.079
I know it's not where you want it to be,
2082
01:51:19.239 --> 01:51:22.279
But are you starting to feel like the campus community
2083
01:51:22.319 --> 01:51:25.680
is starting to, you know, to buy in. Are you
2084
01:51:25.760 --> 01:51:27.680
starting to feel some of that buzz that I know
2085
01:51:27.760 --> 01:51:29.840
you were trying to capture when you first got to Oxford.
2086
01:51:31.560 --> 01:51:34.319
Yeah, you know, it's it's it's taken a while. Well,
2087
01:51:34.479 --> 01:51:35.960
you know, we've got to give them a product to
2088
01:51:36.239 --> 01:51:39.159
uh for our you know, it starts with our students,
2089
01:51:39.359 --> 01:51:41.720
right like you know here we get over twenty thousand students.
2090
01:51:41.720 --> 01:51:44.079
We've got to get students to the games, and we
2091
01:51:44.159 --> 01:51:46.159
got to put a product out there that's worthwhile to
2092
01:51:46.199 --> 01:51:49.239
come watch. And and I think this is the first
2093
01:51:49.319 --> 01:51:51.359
year we've been able to do that. And I was
2094
01:51:51.399 --> 01:51:54.520
shocked when we came back. Our students just got back.
2095
01:51:54.560 --> 01:51:57.039
They call it ja term here, so basically all January
2096
01:51:57.119 --> 01:51:59.399
is off, they're on Christmas break. They get the longest
2097
01:51:59.439 --> 01:52:03.119
Christmas break in America here at Miami, which things for
2098
01:52:03.239 --> 01:52:04.520
men's basketball, man.
2099
01:52:05.359 --> 01:52:06.560
You know, but it is what it is.
2100
01:52:06.600 --> 01:52:09.560
And when we came back, we had Eastern Michigan as
2101
01:52:09.600 --> 01:52:11.880
our first home game with students, and like the thing was,
2102
01:52:11.920 --> 01:52:14.840
there were students in the whole student section. I was like, oh,
2103
01:52:15.279 --> 01:52:17.760
pretty good. Yeah, I was surprised. That's the first time
2104
01:52:17.760 --> 01:52:19.640
I had seen that since I've been here at Miami.
2105
01:52:19.680 --> 01:52:23.720
And then the Ohio You game was unbelievable. That's the
2106
01:52:23.720 --> 01:52:27.439
biggest crowd we've had in twenty some odd years. So
2107
01:52:27.560 --> 01:52:30.560
it's just a process, man. It's like getting the marketing right.
2108
01:52:32.119 --> 01:52:32.319
You know.
2109
01:52:32.479 --> 01:52:37.159
Obviously winning is big, the experience is huge. Like when
2110
01:52:37.159 --> 01:52:39.479
you do get them there, you want it to be
2111
01:52:39.680 --> 01:52:42.560
fun right for the kids, you get to speak their language.
2112
01:52:42.600 --> 01:52:44.800
And it's been a process to get it there. But
2113
01:52:44.840 --> 01:52:48.479
I do think it's definitely ending the right direction, which
2114
01:52:48.520 --> 01:52:51.920
again Malet was like a library before. I'm just telling it,
2115
01:52:52.039 --> 01:52:53.520
like you could go in there and you could. It's
2116
01:52:53.560 --> 01:52:55.000
like people were studying.
2117
01:52:54.960 --> 01:52:55.800
Instead of sharing.
2118
01:52:56.039 --> 01:52:59.159
It's like, gote, like, how do we get this thing flipped?
2119
01:52:59.199 --> 01:53:01.640
You know, it takes a little bit of time and effort,
2120
01:53:01.680 --> 01:53:04.239
but we definitely got to ebb the right direction.
2121
01:53:04.800 --> 01:53:07.760
Hopefully that continues on Saturday, the red Hawks taking on
2122
01:53:07.880 --> 01:53:10.119
Troy at one o'clock. I've got to think, though, I mean,
2123
01:53:10.199 --> 01:53:12.079
I know it's not good for attendance, but that's got
2124
01:53:12.159 --> 01:53:14.600
to be a decent recruiting tool the longest Christmas break.
2125
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Had I known that when I was looking for a school,
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I would be a Red Hawk, Like, I mean, hey,
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you don't have to go to class for two months
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for Christmas. That's pretty good.
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Yeah, it's incredible.
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All right, Well enough said, I appreciate you doing this.
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Congratulations on the contract extension and the season you guys
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have had so far, and hopefully we can do it again.
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01:53:37.159 --> 01:53:41.279
Thanks so much. Coach, you got it. Travis Steele, head
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01:53:41.319 --> 01:53:44.720
coach of the Miami RedHawks. One o'clock on Saturday, a
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01:53:44.880 --> 01:53:48.920
good and fun MU team takes on Troy and they
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do the Tailgate to tip off promotion before the game,
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01:53:53.079 --> 01:53:55.840
which runs for an hour beforehand to get three dollars drinks,
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01:53:55.880 --> 01:53:59.399
two dollars hot dogs, and they are really, really fun
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01:53:59.399 --> 01:54:01.399
to watch. Travis Steel has always been good to us,
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01:54:01.479 --> 01:54:03.520
and I know the first couple of years were a
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01:54:03.600 --> 01:54:07.159
tough putt, but this year he's got a team offensively
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01:54:07.159 --> 01:54:09.199
among the best in college basketball. They did have the
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one game against Akron, which was, you know, you heard
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01:54:12.000 --> 01:54:13.680
coach talk about it a bit of a disaster. But
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01:54:13.720 --> 01:54:16.039
since then they've won three straight a game at a
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first place in the MAC. And Travis is a good
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01:54:19.199 --> 01:54:22.000
guy and I root for him, and it's it's good
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01:54:22.000 --> 01:54:24.880
to see him having some success in Oxford. You might argue,
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01:54:24.920 --> 01:54:27.960
right now, man, like the team, they are one bid league.
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01:54:28.000 --> 01:54:30.439
I get it, they're gonna have to win the MAC Tournament.
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01:54:30.479 --> 01:54:32.479
They're gonna, you know, maybe have to play Acron again.
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01:54:33.079 --> 01:54:38.439
But you would be not unreasonable if you had to
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bet on one team to make the to make the
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01:54:40.640 --> 01:54:43.840
big dance. Putting that coin on the RedHawks one o'clock
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on Sunday against Troy. It is sixteen away from six o'clock.
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We'll try to squeeze a phone call or two in
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from US six. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. A couple
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of quick things, very quickly, or else they wouldn't be quick.
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Ryan Day gets a contract extension from Ohio State. Remember
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two months ago, there's no week you can come back.
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I just got a contract extension. And uh tonight is
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that NFL Honors Show where they they hand out the awards.
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Obviously Joe Burrows and then MVP finalist and the odds
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on favor to be comeback Player of the Year Jamar
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Chase Offensive Player of the Year candidate, Trey Hendrickson Defensive
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Player of the Year candidate. We're also going to find
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out what the Hall of Fame class is going to be,
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and Willie Anderson is somebody We're all rooting for He
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did put on Twitter that the people who are who
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know they're going in or in New Orleans because they've
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been told already, which is so they had to go
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to New Orleans to be a part of that show tonight,
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01:56:26.039 --> 01:56:28.279
intimating that he is not among them. I am praying
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01:56:28.359 --> 01:56:31.079
and hoping that Willy is ropodoping us and he's in
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01:56:31.119 --> 01:56:33.359
New Orleans and will be announced tonight because he deserves it.
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01:56:33.880 --> 01:56:36.760
All right, Uh, we got like four minutes, five minutes, Taren,
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01:56:36.800 --> 01:56:38.399
how are we doing on time? Four and a half,
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four and a half minutes. Very good, Jason, thank you
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01:56:41.199 --> 01:56:46.079
for your patients. You're on ESPN fifteen thirty. Nobody, I'm
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good man.
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01:56:47.960 --> 01:56:51.279
So maybe I'm look good at this over simplistically, but
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01:56:51.560 --> 01:56:55.319
it seems like Trey Henderson's Trey value is never going
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01:56:55.359 --> 01:56:56.720
to be higher than it is right now.
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01:56:57.680 --> 01:57:00.800
I would argue it was higher last year, but yeah, correct.
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01:57:01.439 --> 01:57:05.960
Okay, it just seems to me we need to trade
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01:57:06.039 --> 01:57:11.560
him and use that for Tea and Jamar. They blew
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01:57:11.640 --> 01:57:15.920
up the coaching on the defensive side. Let's just blow
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it up and start over. Say here you go out,
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01:57:19.600 --> 01:57:21.840
let's move on, show us what you got.
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01:57:24.840 --> 01:57:28.439
I agree, with merrit to merit to it, by the way,
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01:57:28.560 --> 01:57:30.359
go ahead. I was just going to say, there's merit
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01:57:30.399 --> 01:57:32.000
to that. By the way, if you say there are
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01:57:32.039 --> 01:57:34.800
so many holes to plug on the team that you
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01:57:34.840 --> 01:57:37.800
could use the extra draft capital and take that money
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01:57:37.800 --> 01:57:40.399
and use it in Jamar and t or elsewhere on the.
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Team, yeah, exactly. And so nobody has any confidence in
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01:57:46.479 --> 01:57:48.680
the front office as far as draft picks. I agree
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01:57:48.720 --> 01:57:53.640
with everybody. You Austin, Tony, I agree with everybody. So
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01:57:53.760 --> 01:57:56.119
the more pitch you have, the less likely is you're
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01:57:56.119 --> 01:57:56.840
gonna whiff on.
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01:57:56.800 --> 01:57:58.760
Everybody, right, Yes, correct.
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01:57:58.439 --> 01:58:02.439
And I'm only saying that half jokingly. But what they
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01:58:02.520 --> 01:58:07.439
have six picks right now? Yeah, yeah, so give them
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01:58:07.439 --> 01:58:08.840
eight maybe possibly dying.
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Yeah.
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01:58:09.239 --> 01:58:11.399
The more the more, the more raffle tickets shoul buy,
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01:58:11.479 --> 01:58:13.760
the better you have a chance of winning a prize.
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01:58:14.640 --> 01:58:15.119
Exactly.
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01:58:15.359 --> 01:58:15.640
Yeah.
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01:58:15.680 --> 01:58:19.119
So I just think it's a no brainer. Just just
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trade them and use it for something else.
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01:58:23.960 --> 01:58:26.680
Now I don't know that it's a no brainer though,
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01:58:26.880 --> 01:58:29.840
because you know, imagine telling Al Golden, you've got to
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01:58:29.880 --> 01:58:31.960
fix this defense, but we're going to take away the
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01:58:32.000 --> 01:58:34.760
one good player from the defense that you walk into. Like,
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I think that's that's it, and again the counter to
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01:58:38.279 --> 01:58:41.720
it makes sense. Money. We could pay the wide receivers
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01:58:42.279 --> 01:58:44.800
the draft capital. He's probably never going to be this good.
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01:58:44.840 --> 01:58:47.800
We're not interested in extending him and I'm I'm here
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01:58:47.840 --> 01:58:50.439
for that. But you know, at the same time, you're
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01:58:50.439 --> 01:58:52.520
telling Al Golden get the defense fixed. You had no
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01:58:52.600 --> 01:58:55.279
pass rush with Trey Hendrickson last year. Now we're going
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01:58:55.359 --> 01:58:58.359
to take them away. When you're looking for instant results,
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I think you'd have to acknowledge that is a tough
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01:59:00.239 --> 01:59:01.279
thing to ask a new DC.
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01:59:02.800 --> 01:59:06.439
It is, but what they were what right, twenty fifth,
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01:59:06.520 --> 01:59:08.159
twenty sixth last year with them?
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01:59:08.399 --> 01:59:12.000
Yeah, that's that's fair. I mean yeah, So, I.
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01:59:11.960 --> 01:59:16.119
Mean, you know, if you're gonna blow it up, blow
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01:59:16.159 --> 01:59:17.840
it up, let's start over and see what we've got.
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01:59:17.920 --> 01:59:20.640
You know, I think Jason, thank you very much. I
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01:59:20.680 --> 01:59:24.760
think it would be really interesting to see. First of all,
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01:59:25.279 --> 01:59:29.079
do they dangle him in a deal. Secondly, if the
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01:59:29.159 --> 01:59:32.279
idea is to get the best possible offer, what does
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01:59:32.319 --> 01:59:37.079
that look like. It's a realistic scenario and it's one
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01:59:37.159 --> 01:59:40.159
that the Bengals have to explore. It's not really my
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01:59:40.239 --> 01:59:44.359
first choice, but it's one they have to explore. Mike,
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01:59:45.000 --> 01:59:46.600
you can have the last word. We don't have a
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01:59:46.640 --> 01:59:47.680
lot of time. What's going on?
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01:59:48.760 --> 01:59:50.399
Yeah, okay, like lean around? Thanks?
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01:59:50.399 --> 01:59:50.600
Well?
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01:59:50.720 --> 01:59:51.079
Sure?
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01:59:51.439 --> 01:59:52.119
Why okay?
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01:59:52.680 --> 01:59:53.199
Yes or no?
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01:59:53.479 --> 01:59:56.319
Or a quick answer? Why aren't you at radio roll
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01:59:56.399 --> 01:59:59.880
because Pittsburgh's down there, Saint Louis is down there, Pampas
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02:00:00.039 --> 02:00:01.640
down there, but we're not down there? Why not?
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02:00:02.079 --> 02:00:02.399
Uh?
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02:00:03.159 --> 02:00:06.359
I think it's bad radio if if your team's not there.
2263
02:00:07.359 --> 02:00:10.000
Okay, number two. I laugh at you all the time
2264
02:00:10.439 --> 02:00:12.640
like they did at Burroughs, and.
2265
02:00:14.319 --> 02:00:15.319
So does everybody else.
2266
02:00:16.520 --> 02:00:20.279
Yeah, that's fun. I mean, that's that's how we have fun. Right, Okay,
2267
02:00:20.680 --> 02:00:23.159
next thing real quick. I know I'll talk to you
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02:00:23.159 --> 02:00:26.279
tomorrow about the best general managers in football warners Jason
2269
02:00:26.319 --> 02:00:35.119
White's from Mike. Yeah, unintentional, but it was good radio. Okay.
2270
02:00:35.439 --> 02:00:36.039
Top five?
2271
02:00:36.319 --> 02:00:39.520
Can you give me the top ten coaches in all
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02:00:39.600 --> 02:00:43.960
time wins in NTA basketball with eight hundred wins or more?
2273
02:00:44.439 --> 02:00:48.039
The top seven coach? So Bob Knight, right.
2274
02:00:48.840 --> 02:00:52.560
He's in there yet, Mike Skowsky, yep, he's the leader.
2275
02:00:52.920 --> 02:00:55.439
Uh is this just men?
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02:00:57.239 --> 02:00:57.479
Yes?
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02:00:57.560 --> 02:00:57.880
Okay?
2278
02:00:58.159 --> 02:01:03.600
Now, Bob Knight, Mi Chewsky, Bob Huggins, Jim.
2279
02:01:03.439 --> 02:01:16.479
Calhoun yep, Beheim yep. Oh, Roy Williams, yep, look at you.
2280
02:01:16.560 --> 02:01:19.920
All right, I got at five. We have to go.
2281
02:01:20.359 --> 02:01:21.680
All right, Well, I'm gonna hit you.
2282
02:01:22.239 --> 02:01:24.000
Let me hit you with this one. That's gonna blow
2283
02:01:24.039 --> 02:01:27.319
your mind. Cliff Ellis is number ten, Cliff Ellis and
2284
02:01:27.399 --> 02:01:30.399
he's still actively coaching at Coastal Carolina.
2285
02:01:30.439 --> 02:01:32.239
I never would have guessed, Mike, we have to go.
2286
02:01:32.399 --> 02:01:34.800
Have a great night. Thanks to Terran for producing, Thanks
2287
02:01:34.800 --> 02:01:36.600
to you for listening. Join us at Twin Peaks in
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02:01:36.640 --> 02:01:42.720
Westchester tomorrow on ESPN fifteenth thirty