2/29/24 - The Mo Egger Show w/ Chad Brendel

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No one covers the Bengals like ESPN
fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. All right,
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away we go a delightful Thursday afternoon
of the Queen City. I'm Chad
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Brendle, still in from oegar Mo, still enjoying the fun and sun out
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in Arizona. He will get to
see the Reds and the Dodgers eight oh
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five. You can catch that on
seven HUNDREDL tonight. It was a busy
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Wednesday, uh for the local sports
scene. Sorry, get it getting adjusted
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tern that we this whole like,
bring it in when the show starts.
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It's difficult. It makes life difficult
on US. Xavier last night ninety one
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to fifty eight over to Paul,
a game that was a four point game
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at halftime. Xavier and especially Quincy
Oliveri explode in the second half. Olivaria,
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I believe, set a Xavier record
last night the most points in a
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season against a single opponent, as
he put up seventy five points in their
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two games against a Paul. Look, that's what you have to do.
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You get you get a chance to
play a bad team, you smack them.
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That's how this is supposed to work. And De Paul is three and
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twenty five something like that. I
believe on the season, oh and seventeen.
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In Big East play, they got
out, you know, Xavier got
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out to a good lead early and
then let DePaul kind of get back into
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it with a run to in the
first half. You thought, oh,
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no, don't do this, not
like this. And then they came out
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in the second half, started out
hot, pulled away quick, and put
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the heat onto Paul down the stretch. NKU was in action last night,
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seventy to sixty winners over Robert Morris, and that leaves them with one game
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left in their regular season as NKU
takes on Wright State Saturday at seven o'clock.
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For NKU, Marquez work with twenty
eight, Trey Robinson eighteen, Michael
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Bradley fifteen. A solid consistent performance
for the Norse as they are picking up
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steam. They're seventeen and thirteen.
I think it's fair to say that they're
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probably not thrilled with the way the
regular season is gone. But if we're
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being honest, it doesn't matter.
They know that. They know. Their
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eye on the prize is the conference
tournament. Be playing your best ball going
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into the conference tournament and give yourself
a chance to win the Horizon League Tournament
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and go to the NCAA Tournament.
Now that gets easier the better you play
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in conference play, the more games
you win, the better seed you have.
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But ultimately what it comes down to
is who wins and gets the chance
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to go represent the league in the
NCAA Tournament. And nobody in the Horizon
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since NK you joined has been better
than the Norse at doing that. So
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they are getting back on track and
playing their basketball best basketball at the end
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of the season. Always a good
sign for Darren Horn and company and f
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C Cincinnati. Last night four nothing
winners over Cavalier. They advance in the
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CONCACAFF Champions Cup. They will play
Monterey Brandon Vasquez Monterey Thursday, March seventh.
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They do have a game Saturday against
Chicago, an MLS game against Chicago
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at eight thirty at TQL Stadium.
I believe no, that's do they do
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this backwards for MLS? Yes?
Oh, the bottom team is supposed to
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be the home team. Tearn not
at MLS. Well, okay, Well,
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Cincinnati will host Monterey Thursday, March
seventh at seven pm and Saturday this
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Saturday, March second, at eight
thirty they go to Chicago. Why would
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they do that to us? I
don't understand. We'll do it one way
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for everything. But MLS come on
and then, like I said, the
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Reds back in action tonight. Let
me see if we have a lineup yet.
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We do we have in goodyear against
the Dodgers, like I said,
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eight oh five, right here in
seven hundred Wow. Also on MLB network,
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Freiley and right Da La Cruz.
It's short Candelario at third, Steer
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and left, Stevenson behind the dish
in Carnacia and Strand at first, Ford
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as your DH, Stewart Fairchild and
center Tony Kemp at second and spring debut
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for Graham Ashcraft as he takes the
mound against the Dodgers. So that's what
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all you've got coming up. We've
got a lot to get to today.
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We will talk to James Rapine get
all the latest information from the combine.
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He talked to Zach Taylor, he
talked to Duke Tobin, he talked to
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a bunch of assistant coaches. He's
got a ton of video on his YouTube
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channel that will get you up to
speed on everything that was happening. But
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we will get we will get all
the pertinent information from James Rapine at three
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point thirty, and he owes you. He does owe me. That's I
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mean, you know, it's okay. I don't mind coming in. He
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was supposed to be here Tuesday and
Wednesday from the combine, but he doesn't
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have control over you know, when
the coaches are going to be made available.
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So it's okay. I'm not mad. Adam Terran, See if you
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can cover opening day for you,
I'll propose that or the Friday of the
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NC DOUBLEA Tournament, one of the
two. Correct. I think the crappy
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part about the first round of the
tournament, Terran, is this year spring
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football for you. See normally it's
in the mornings in the bubble, but
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there's no bubble, so it's got
to be at Nippert Stadium. So practices
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have been moved to three o'clock.
And the first day of the NC Double
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A Tournament there is a practice at
three o'clock. Oh wow? Do I
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do I just have Keegan cover that? Like? Do I just say?
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Look, man, I'm not you
know, I'm the boss, Like I
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can make the rules at Bearcat Journal. You know me, I'm going to
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be at the practice. It's what
I do. I'll be there, but
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then Friday I'm here, So you
and I will be watching tournament games on
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the first Friday of the tournament,
and then you and I will be here
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for opening Day doing counter programming while
everybody else listens or watches the Reds.
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Well, I'm not here opening Day. What I told you this already?
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Oh I forgot, I don't like
it. I quit, So I have
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a good day. That's the trap, Chap Brendall. Yeah, here's two
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hours and uh forty seven minutes of
ESPN Radio. Maybe just have Tony call
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in from wherever he's driving to and
do the rest of the show complaining the
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entire way that man was three hours
into his drive terran and talking about,
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Oh my back and I'm cramping up
my butt, cheeks are falling asleep.
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Unbelievable. He's so soft. How
did he make it to the NFL?
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He's so soft? Anyhow, Justin
Williams will be on with us at three
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point thirty. Well, we'll touch
on a little bear cats. But a
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lot of news yesterday going around about
the college football playoff moving to fourteen with
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automatic qualifiers for the four power conferences, and money and power, and it's
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I don't love it. I don't
like where this is all headed. None
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of it is about the sport anymore. It's all about how much money can
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we put in our pockets. It's
really annoying, but we'll get to that.
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On the Bengals front, is it
strange to you that we're hearing very
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little about Joe Burrow's risk other than
that's fine, that's fine, looks good.
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Nothing to see here, Like this
is not a team that has has
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nailed it when it comes to telling
us about player injuries. We don't have
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to understandably, like a little bit
more info on where Joe Burrow is at,
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Like what's the timetable, when is
he going to be back throwing?
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How much of a normal off season
is he going to get to have?
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I think that would all be relevant
pertinent information. Don't you instead? Nice?
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Fine ahead a schedule? Actually yeah, yeah, I had a schedule.
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Yeah, we're doing great. That's
a surgery that nobody, no quarterback
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is ever, no prominent quarterback has
ever had before on your throwing wrist.
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Sorry if I'm I'm normally a pretty
positive guy. Sorry if I'm a little
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skeptical when it comes to that,
he's fine. Nothing to see here.
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Don't worry about it, because this
is not the same team without Joe Burrow.
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If we find out that it's,
you know, something a little more
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that Lingers or is a little more
long term and they didn't trade T Higgins,
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it's malpractice. You're not gonna have
Joe Burrow for the or not gonna
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have one hundred percent Joe Burrow.
Not to say that he's not gonna come
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back, That's not what I'm worried
about. But I just he means so
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much to this franchise that it's my
thirst for information on that front is wide.
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And I understand it's not the reporter's
fault. They asked the questions.
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The Bengals aren't gonna tell us.
We know that, but as somebody watching
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from the outside, I don't feel
great not knowing. Paul Danner Jr.
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With a great article on the right
tackle position. I don't think that is
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being talked about enough as we go
through this offseason. It's a critical spot,
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especially with the change in the way
defenses are attacking in the NFL.
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It's not just your left tackle that
has to to be good against pass rushers
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anymore. They're putting guys over the
right tackle and coming from the front side,
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and it's a critical position that the
Bengals have had four starters in four
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years. Joe Burrow has been here
four years. He has not had the
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same starter at right tackle in any
of the four years. They have to
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get this right, whether it's bringing
in a veteran, whether it's bringing in
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a veteran on a short term deal
and drafting an offensive lineman a right tackle
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with the idea that that's your long
term answer. Whatever it is, it's
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just as critical as anything else they
are doing this offseason. So we'll discuss
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that. And with the Reds,
I think my question again you continue to
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search for why are they not thought
of as highly enough in Vegas and baseball
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circles as they are thought of here
in Cincinnati. I don't think it's the
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infield. I think they're pretty confident
with the infield and what they've got and
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how it works. I understand some
doubts about the pitching, but I think
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there's enough high quality arms that the
pitching is going to be okay. Is
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the answer to the outfield, I
think it might. John Zi beat the
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health of the starting pitching. I
think that's fair. I think that's more
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than fair. But but do you
feel great about the outfield? Terarn,
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I mean, I feel pretty good
about Spencer Steeer. I feel pretty good
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about Will Benson center field. I
I like Jake Frayley. I don't dislike
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Jake Frayley. Is he Is he
a top half of baseball center fielder?
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Probably not right? And the depth
of the outfield I don't necessarily feel great
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about that. So we'll discuss if
the outfield might be wide. People aren't
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looking at the Reds as fondly as
people here. It was old friend Billy
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Hamilton. Where's he? That?
Not? All right? Let's take a
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break. When we come back,
we'll talk about burrow in the wrist a
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little bit and uh James Rapine.
In about twelve minutes Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty,
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seating, and get yourself a spot
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Smoke Justice. All right, Terren, just a couple of minutes before we
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get to James Rapine here. Does
does the does the borrow stuff bother you
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at all? Is it? Do
you think there should probably be more information
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out there about this? Or do
I have to just shut up and accept
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it that this is how the NFL
works and they're not going to tell us
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anything until they have to. Is
that to accept it? And honestly,
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right now, I don't want to
hear nothing. If I was a Bengals
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fan, I wouldn'tant to hear nothing
right now. My biggest thing I need
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Joe Burrow to be healthy doing training
camp for week one. What happens in
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February doesn't Oh no, no,
no, no no, don't mistake me.
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Like I don't think Joe Burrow should
be throwing right now, right,
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but like it would be nice if
there was, like, uh, like
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if we knew, like, okay, Joe's going to be back to throwing,
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Like the expectation is like June July, like he's not gonna start throwing
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when camp starts. I wouldn't feel
comfortable with that if he basically went through
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an entire offseason and didn't at any
work, and and sure you would hope
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he can get himself worked up in
camp. But let's be honest, haterren
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making it through camp has not been
a strength of Joe Burrow exactly, which
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is what I'm not concerning about right
now. Just get me through camp,
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get us get through camp, Joe. Yeah, but you got to get
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to camp first. This is why
I don't want to risk him doing nothing
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until camp. Yeah, I know, I get it, but I don't
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want him to miss an entire like
that. It feels like his development,
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whether it be the appendicitis or the
ankle now the risk, the acl where
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he missed basically an entire off season. Like, at some point, this
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man is going to have to make
it through an off season and a training
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camp, uh, with with the
opportunity to work on his game, and
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the fact that we keep struggling to
get to that point. If you're a
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fan, that has to be a
concern. And I'm not saying, you
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know, I'm expecting them to like
lay out for us. This is this
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is his recovery plan. They're never
going to do that, but I think
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you'd make the fan base fuel at
least a little bit better if you,
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Okay, we expect Joe to begin
throwing in June or July, at least
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throwing, just throwing the football because
tarn that injury was frightening, and that's
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a surgery that quarterbacks don't have.
It is not like, Okay, we
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fixed his knee. Uh, okay, we fixed his rotator cuff for you
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know, he tore a laboram No. This is something that's never been done
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before at this level, for this
type of situation. It makes me uneasy,
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that's all. I'm still a quote
from the great Aaron Rodgers, Relax,
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how long have you known me.
His relaxing ever really been my thing?
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No, not at all, all
right, anybody it needs to needs
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to be, it's probably never gonna
happen. I'm not I'm built different.
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They're things for that, you know. They don't really work. They take
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me from like one hundred to like
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They I'm always kind of in a
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I can't help it. All right, let's take a break. James
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It's the Mowggar Show. I am
not Mogar. I'm not even James Rapine,
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who was supposed to be in some
this week, but the Combine decided
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to make that impossible. So now
James is going to join us. I
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know James a big, notorious,
big, a big Biggie Smalls fan,
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and you definitely picked that as your
intro music. Right, Oh yeah,
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definitely tarn Nose my go to for
sure, no doubt. Are you are
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you on your way home or are
you still in Indy? I just got
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back, like literally four minutes ago. Was how was the trip? Trip
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was good? Trip was good,
Andy was productive, And now I get
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to check out all of these guys
doing all the testing from the comfort of
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my own home. That's the funny
part. Everyone's like, oh, you
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don't stay for the workouts. It's
like, no, you can. Actually
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that's on team those numbers at home, right, that's that's on TV.
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You literally do not have to be
an Indy for that. They do all
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of that for you and you just
get to relax exactly. So it is.
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It is good to be back after
a few days in Indy. But
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Indy does a great job. I
have the combine always stays there. James,
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James, can you make me feel
better about the Joe Burrow thing?
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Because I get a little nervous just
hearing Oh, he's fine, everything's good.
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Probably ahead of schedule, actually yeah
sure, sure, yeah, yeah,
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yeah, Like, do we have
any clue on a timetable? This
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is a surgery that no quarterback has
ever really had before, Like when do
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we when do we think he'll be
throwing again? And like when when they
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say he's going to be ready for
camp, does that does that mean he's
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been throwing for a while, Like
make ease my concern here. Yeah,
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Look, I think you're right to
have some concern, and people are because
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there's a very serious risk injury.
I wish it would have just I wish
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he would have just broke his wrist
right recovery, no doubt. And and
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so there's I think when it comes
to this, and the reason why they're
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so he's on track is because until
they see him throw, until he's cleared
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the throw, all of those things
which he's not supposed to be yet,
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he's on he is on track and
all of those things. But until we
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see that, I think there is
going to be some concern because you just
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haven't haven't seen it. So as
far as timeline goes, I think we'll
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see him throwing during at least part
of the off season program, not camp,
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I mean before that, so you
know, may hopefully he can throw
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before that. I think that might
be the first time we see him throw.
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It's not like he's he's probably going
to advertise it a ton, but
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that's kind of when I expect to
see Joe throw. That doesn't mean he'll
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be on a full throwing regimen there. I'm not sure exactly what it is,
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and I do know he's training like
crazy. But you're right, I
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mean the throwing part, it's just
throwing hand, it's throwing wrists. It
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is concerning. So I get it
because you're not alone. I think a
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lot of people feel that way.
Is the Bengals that have been pretty tight
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information wise, and I don't think
it's because anything's going wrong. I just
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think there's some unknown with this injury. Yeah, I mean that's I think
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that's where my concern comes from.
Is there's no you know, like,
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we know what a broken bone is, the healing is going to look like,
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we know what an ACL is going
to look like. Apparently now they
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can get you back from Achilles in
like three weeks, so that's a breakthrough
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in technology. I just the uncertainty, and it just I don't feel great
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about it because you know how we
are in this business. We'd like to
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know, like I need to know
what the time schedule is and when everybody's
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like, oh no, don't worry
about it that. I feel like these
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aren't the dry you're looking for,
Like, just go talk about something else.
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We'll get back to that. If
he's throwing in May, great,
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I feel awesome about that. Like
there's a long time between May and the
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start of camp. If he's throwing
in May, I feel great. If
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we get to like June and they're
like, well, you know, we're
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still working him back, I'm gonna
I'm gonna be nervous. Other than Joe,
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yeah, I know, I totally
agree that. My if we're not
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seeing him throw in the off season
program at all, it's a huge concern
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because not only do you want him
throwing, but you want him to improve
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this art season and still be able
to do that, and so hopefully he
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can't. Uh. Other than Joe, the biggest story was probably the comments
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on t Higgins. They were not
as hard line as a year ago,
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but I, at least from my
perspective, it would have been It would
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have been bad, bad business to
take a hard line stance the way that
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they did last year against Tea.
Last year we knew they weren't moving Tea.
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It was pointless for anybody to even
you know, broach that subject.
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Now, maybe they move team,
maybe they don't, but you don't close
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the door on it at the combine, no doubt. And part of the
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reason why you make the decision to
tag him, yeah, way you did
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is so you're open. It's so
you can look at it and say,
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all right, well, what's the
best option here. And there are going
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to be teams, I know there
are teams that are interested in Tea that
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want to know what would take to
get him. And so now the Bengals
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can be open for business because there's
a lot of tentacles to it. Sure,
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well, if the Bengals were to
trade t Higgins, you would almost
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want the compensation to be done this
week, and you get it done this
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week, so you can have that
team work out a deal with David Mulgette's
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agent because any trade would likely come
with an extension as well, because he
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would have to sign that franchise tag
to so take the trade. So there's
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a lot of moving parts. You'd
want to do it before free agency,
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so you have that twenty one point
eight million dollars in cash space to work
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with, and so it can be
done, no doubt. But they need
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to move swiftly, and so they
did do that, and I do think
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that they're open to trading Tea.
I also think they're completely comfortable with not
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trading him and making him play on
the tag this year for twenty one point
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eight million dollars in trying to make
a run at a Lombardi with P Higgins
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and Jamar Chase as the leaders on
their offense. Yeah, I mean,
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if you've got this window and as
open as it, however open you think
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it is right now, the window
is more open with T Higgins on your
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roster than it is without, no
matter what happened. Yeah, I think
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so, I do, especially this
year, right just in terms of twenty
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twenty four only correct now, there
are some that would say, ah,
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well, if you use that money
on a defensive tackle, then it makes
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you better. And what I would
say is, you can say that all
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day long, but you're not getting
key at wide receiver. You're dropping so
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much more at wide receiver as well. And there isn't a defensive tackle that
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they don't have the cap space to
get. There isn't one doesn't name the
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guy. Now, I don't think
they're going to make a real run at
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Chris Jones for a bunch of reasons, but they could. They have the
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room to and so I think doing
both is the right way to go here.
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Ultimately, I think he plays on
the tag. Ultimately, I don't
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think they make a deal with a
team, but I do think that they
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should be listening and almost trying to
get something done if it's reasonable. At
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the same time, I totally get
the standpoint of it. It does make
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them a bit worse this year right
tackle. This could go a bunch of
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different ways. It could go free
agency. I mean, I would be
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shocked if they don't add a somebody
at right tackle and free agency, because
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I don't think they even really have
a backup level right tackle on the roster
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right now that you would feel comfortable
with. What do you think is most
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likely A go get a right tackle
in free agency and call it a day.
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B, get a short term veteran
at right tackle, and then draft
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a right tackle, or C draft
the right tackle and move him into the
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starting lineup. You know, pretty
much right from the jump, I think
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they have to address it in free
agency just because you have no idea how
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the draft is going to go.
Sure, there's a very real scenario where
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the Bengals don't take an offensive tackle
in Round one, not because they don't
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want to, but because there's seventeen
players that are going to be off the
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board when they're on the clock,
sure, and so they need to give
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themselves some insurance. So I think
in a perfect world, you would sign
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someone in free agency that you're comfortable
with starting in being the guy and whether
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that's a band aid type of free
agent like they've had over the past couple
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of years where it didn't feel like
they were necessarily the long term answer,
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or it's someone like Mike and win
Who from New England who could cost more
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than it maybe you know, definitely
double digit millions per year, but as
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a guy that if they view him
as that level of player, could be
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a right tackle for the next third
to four years. So I would go
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that route. I had one of
these guys that can come in and start
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and solidify that spot, but don't
do it if it's going to impact you
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at eighteen, because you're right,
they don't have enough depth. And even
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if you signed Mike and Winho who, like I said, is probably the
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top right tackle option on the market, at least not named Joana Williams,
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who we expect to sign elsewhere.
Even if you add him, it shouldn't
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take you out of taking or prevent
you from taking a tackle at eighteen because
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you can't have enough. They're really
hard to find and they should be willing
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to double down. So I think
they will. I think they'll sign a
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free agent that they're comfortable with starting, and then they'll also take a tackle,
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maybe not at eighteen, but certainly
on Day one or Day two of
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the draft. First three rounds,
almost guaranteed. What's your thoughts on Makai
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Beckton. I've seen his name pop
up a lot. He's a guy that
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Frank Pollack was in or was in
New York with the Jets when he was
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drafted. He hasn't worked out for
a variety of reasons, some of them
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injury related, which make you probably
pause for a little bit for a guy
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that size. But his name has
come up a lot. What are your
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thoughts on him? It's interesting because, yeah, his name has definitely come
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up a lot, and it's been
sort of unique to the past forty eight
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hours or so. Suddenly a lot
of them, like Makai beckton't talk,
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and when I look at these free
agents that they could sign. Beckden is
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the youngest. He does have ties
to Frank Pollack obviously, like you said,
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they drafted him eleventh overall New York
when Pollack was the offensive line coach,
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and he's going to be cheap,
and so could he be that band
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aid option where if you end up
drafting a tackle at eighteen and that rookie
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is really good, now Becton is
your backup swing tackle. Oh well,
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that makes sense. Or if Frock
Bowers falls the eighteen, you can take
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him. In that stress about not
getting a tackle in the first round.
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I think Becton could certainly be that
guy, so would not shock me at
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off they make a run at McKai
Beckton. I think Germaine Iluminor is someone
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that I would be interested in if
I'm the Bengals because he has some guard
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experience too, So it could be
really versatile for you and back up multiple
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spots, say if you hit on
a tackle in the first round, or
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start at right tackle for you.
So that's another name I would keep in
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mind as well, but would not
shock me at off they're interested in McKai
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Becton. In a few weeks when
free agency starts. There has been talk
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that they're talking to a lot of
edge rushing guys, not a lot of
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interior defensive linemen draft prospects at this
point. Austin asked me about this to
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end Sincy three sixty today. I'm
interested if you see it kind of similar
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to what I see and that I
think, much like we are learning on
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the offensive line, especially a tackle, you kind of prefer a guy that's
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been there, done that, that's
kind of gone through it and you don't
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have to take a year, two
years whatever to develop. Is that similar
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to where things are at on the
defensive line right now, because it's just
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so hard to find many college kids
that are physically ready to come in and
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make an impact. Yeah, I
agree. I think it's it's really tough
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to look at this defensive tackle class
and say, all right, the Bengals
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are going to get an instant impact
guy. Oh okay, where Because there's
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three and maybe depending on who you
ask, just two potential first round defensive
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tackles, they're completely different. Byron
Murphy and Johnny Newton out of Illinois.
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You could throw Tovandre Sweat in there, but he's like a true nose tackle
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and usually fall down the board a
bit, and so there aren't a ton
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of guys that I would look at
and say, all right, that can
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be your DJ Reader for example,
like a true nose tackle, that can
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be an AFC North level tackle right
like, right away, probably can't happen,
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So I agree. I think that
they'll have to address it in free
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agency with multiple bodies, whether that's
DJ Reader and someone, whether that's just
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multiple new faces in the middle of
this defense. And that shouldn't prevent them
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from drafting one if the right one's
there, but they're just there aren't many
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guys that I would pencil in as
instant impact. Now, maybe it happens,
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but I don't think you can go
into the draft relying on that.
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I think it's more of a depth
element. And it's the same thing with
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that rusher. They're looking at those
guys. If they drafted an edge rusher,
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how would he get on the field. He would have to be pretty
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darn dominant to get on the field
right away. Sure, do you think
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there's any chance they take a look
at Jawan Briggs late or as a free
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agent? I mean, I know
he didn't get invited to the combine.
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I think He could be a pretty
good rotational, a depth piece, not
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a starter, but a guy that
could help. Sure, it would be
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nice if some of these bear Cats
could end up in Bengal stripes. I
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thought it was gonna happen a few
years ago. It didn't. Last year.
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I thought, you know, there
was a chance, and it hasn't.
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And so yeah, I wouldn't rule
it out. And I would certainly
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be open to it. And they'll
obviously be able to have him for the
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local pro day, so I wouldn't
rule it out. I can't believe they
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went to the super Bowl and lost
their chance to get sauce. What are
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they thinking? It just doesn't make
any sense. James, I was at
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that pro day. I think you
were too, and I joked. I
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joke was that. I was like, Yeah, you're not gonna be able
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to get that guy. Can I
introduce you Bryant? That's right, great,
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all right, man, I appreciate
it. Glad you made it home
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safe and enjoy your next one.
Three days on the couch watching the combine
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and watching guys in shorts run forty
yard dashes. Forty yard dashes? How
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fast do you think Karen Bland could
run the forty yard dash. Now probably
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I think right around five. I'll
give you a chance. What do you
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think my fastest forty was when I
was young? James, Oh, see
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this is dangerous because you said that
pretty confident, that faster than I would.
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I would. Yeah, you said
that confident. I did four eight
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four three nine. Get out of
here. I was a state I ran
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qualified state every year in high school. I ran one hundred, two hundred,
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four hundred, eight hundred. I
ran elect four nine four three nine.
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Yep, I need proof. Where's
the proof? I mean four three
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nine, I ran sub eleven in
the hundred, like ten eight ten nine
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in the hundred. Come on,
show me you that's got to be somewhere
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that's yeah. I'll see if I
can find a yearbook. Look at this.
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I was could never run a four
to three nine. They might run
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thirty yards. Arn's too long.
See that was that was kind of my
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benefit in the forty James, is
I'm short, so like I had a
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great start, and then by by
forty I was pretty maxed out like that
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because of my legs and my rTMS. I would get to about fifty in
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the lead, and then the taller, longer guys would like at the fifty
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fifty yard mark, I would start
to see them just kind of comfortably cruising
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by me. But that forty I
was hell brother four three nine man.
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Meanwhile, Austin runs a seven three
nine, Tony ran a six nine,
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fastest man at the station. I
love it. I mean that's not even
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really in question. But that was
a lot. That was a long time
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and I'm carrying an extra human now. So where can they find you?
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James already play playing on the combine? Yeah? Locked on Bengals podcast.
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00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:07.320
Cincinnati Bengals Talk on YouTube is where
literally every coaching interview is there. From
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Lou and Roumo today, new safety
coach Jordan Kovacs. You have every offensive
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coach you could think, from offensive
coordinator Dan Pitcher, Zach Taylor, Duke
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Toven, a bunch of interviews on
Cincinnati Bengals Talk from the Combine. You
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know what you know? What I
love about you, James, is we
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are of the same ilk. There
are very few people that have the I
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refuse to quit, to have made
it where we have made it in this
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world. And it's always been a
joy to see your success and how far
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you keep pushing these things because you
know, I'm of the same cloth,
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and it's always refreshing to see that
it can be done. So I love
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it. Brother, keep going.
Yeap, you too, Chat, I
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appreciate you. Thanks for having me. All Right, there we go,
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James Rapine. Let's take a break. When we come back our number two,
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we'll talk some college football playoff off
and much more. If you want,
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give us a call. Five one, three, seven, four,
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nine, fifteen thirty. Mike,
I know you're out there. I'll get
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to you soon. I think Mike's
mad at me, Taren, I haven't
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gotten to him the last two shows. More after this Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
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Hunger affects every community. Are you
ready for some football? We are
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burrow to Chase happens here. This
is the official home of the Bengals,
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ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. Here we go our number two,
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Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. It's the
Moeggar Show. I am not Moegar,
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Chad Brenda, Bearcat Journal dot Com. I'm in all week tomorrow I will
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be here. I mean you get
to partake in Makers and Coke Friday and
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pizza party Friday. I haven't had
one of road in a while. I
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was thinking about that today. I
haven't enjoyed a good quality pizza from our
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favorite pizza spot in a while either. I haven't been in on a Friday
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in a long time. And I
think the last time I was you weren't
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here. Yeah, thank you for
choosing me, Thank you for choosing us.
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Terren's part of this package except for
Opening Day apparently, are you going
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to be down at the banks?
Are you going to be partaking in the
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festivities? Oh? Yes, that's
the plan. Unbelievable, unbelievable, Yeah,
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you know it is what it is. Still plenty to get to as
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we roll through this show. Still
a lot more Bengals on the plate and
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Reds on the plate. We'll get
to Xavier's win last night over to Paul.
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That was an important one for Xavier, just from the fact that you
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can't lose to DePaul. Not this
DePaul team. They have not won a
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Big East game. They've won three
games all season. Even if it was
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you know, they're coming off a
four game losing streak. You hope you
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blow them out, which they did, But that was just win and keep
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it moving. Get to Georgetown and
and hope you can pick up some steam.
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Hope you can pick up some momentum
because you've got to Paul and then
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Georgetown and then Butler, who uh, they're gonna be playing at home.
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They're they're fighting to get into the
NCAA tournament. That one's going to be
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a challenge. But you got a
chance to at least in some ways,
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and this season on a high note. It would has been a rough season
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for Xavier, a season hovering around
five hundred. That is not something that's
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normal for them. That is,
that is not something that they are accustomed
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to. And it's not a shock. You played maybe the hardest non conference
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schedule in the country. If not, you're certainly up there near the top.
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And then you go through the Big
East, which is you could argue
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second that worst, third best conference
in college basketball. It's been a grind,
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it's been a slog. But if
you can go to Georgetown and win
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on Saturday, and then next week, a week from yesterday, if you
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can pick up a win over Butler, winning three in a row gives you
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some momentum. Then you end the
season with Marquette at the Centas Center.
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You would think that that is a
you know, a game that they will
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have circle. They did not play
well against Marquette. It didn't I won't
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go as far as to say that
they look like they quit, but they
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didn't look like they had a lot
of fight against Marquette the first time around,
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and they got blown out. And
that's still going to be fresh on
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their mind that that was, you
know, last week. So that win
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last night was big. And Quincy
Olivery crosses the two thousand point mark for
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his career, and that is a
guy that I'm I'm sure Xavier fans wish
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they could find a way to get
him another year because he's had an outstanding
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season. I think he is essentially
a lock to be on one of the
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all Big East teams. And he
gave them throughout the year. They were
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under manned, they weren't. They
didn't get really any production from the four
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and five spot all year, and
OLIVERI was in a lot of times,
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you know, almost single handedly keeping
them in games. What a great senior
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season for that young man. And
it seems like a great guy has done
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a lot around the community, has
really embraced Cincinnati. So happy for him
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to see him get his two thousandth
point and Xavier to get the ninety one
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fifty eight win over to Paul last
night. Impressive second half after looking like,
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oh no, this is going to
be a lot closer than we thought
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it was going to be. It
was a four point game at halftime,
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It was not close the rest of
the way. Xavier pulled away early and
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just piled it on in the second
half of action. Like I said,
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Georgetown at Georgetown Saturday at seven point
thirty is the tip off for that one.
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N KU with a seventy to sixty
win over Robert Morris. Their season
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finale is Saturday at Wright State.
So a little rivalry game that's got,
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you know, implications in tournament seating
and getting a bye and playing a home
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game and trying to make your way
through the Horizon League tournament once again to
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be the team that represents that league
in the NCAA tournament. They have been
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playing really well of late. I
had Shannon Minor, former NKU legend,
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Shannon Minor, local high school coach. He was blowing up my phone all
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night last night. I'm sure he's
listening to this now, Taran. He
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said, if n KU won last
night, I was supposed to have him
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on the show today to talk.
Norse invited himself into the show. Free
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segment, Free segment, Come on, Shannon. But yeah, so n
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K you rounding into form at exactly
the right time. They know how this
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is done. They know how it
works in a one big big league.
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Get ready, be playing your best
basketball in late February into early March,
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and try to parlay that into a
tournament appearance. FC Cincinnati gets a win
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last night in the CONFI CALF Champions
Cup four to nothing or yeah, ever
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Cavalier, they advance. They host
Monterey in the Champions Cup Thursday, next
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Thursday, a week from tonight,
at seven o'clock. But before that they
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have an MLS game at Chicago Saturday
at eight thirty so, and then they're
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right back with DC United on Sunday, March tenth. So in the span
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I mean, they are rapid fire, rapid fire games. The fifteenth,
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the twenty second, the twenty fifth, last night, the second, the
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seventh, the tenth, the fourteenth, the seventeenth, the twenty third,
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they are. They have a lot
of games coming up here in this window
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between now and the end of March, so good for them. On moving
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on and taking on Brandon Vasquez and
Monterey coming up starting next week. I
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want to do a lot this hour. College football is it's in a very
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interesting place, and I don't think
it's a good place. I don't think
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college football is in a healthy spot
right now, which is weird because if
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you look at the rank, the
ratings, if you look at the TV
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numbers, if you look at the
outside bubble, interest would seemingly has never
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been higher. And next year you
are going to see Oregon and UCLA and
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USC and Washington in the Big Ten, and you're gonna see SMU and Stanford
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and Cal in the ACC in Colorado
and Arizona and Arizona State and Utah in
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the Big twelve. The Pac twelve
goes away. The twelve team playoffs starts
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next year, but that only is
going to last for two years, and
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then when we get to twenty twenty
six, a fourteen team playoff is seemingly
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imminent, and they are figuring out
what a fourteen team playoff looks like,
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and of course, instead of what's
best for the sport and that you have
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as many open spots available so that
the best teams and play for a championship
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instead, the greed and the desire
to get your pause on as much of
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the money as possible is taking over
the sport, and a lot of this
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reporting are at Ross Dillinger from USA
Today had some stuff yesterday and Pete Thammil
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and Heather Denich reporting on the same
thing as well, including the potential for
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three auto bids each for the SEC
and the Big ten, two auto bids
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for the ACC and the Big twelve, one auto bid for the group of
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five and only three only three at
large spots, which in reality, most
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years Notre Dames is usually ranked in
the top fourteen. You'll likely see Notre
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Dame in that most years that used
two autobids, and it is a format
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that just has greed and money grab
written all over it. And I have
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a fear that we are going to
get to a point where regionalism starts to
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take over college football the way that
regionalism dominates Major League baseball. And what
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I mean by that is, Taren, how much of a baseball guy are
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you? Casual? Just follow the
rais really okay? And you know what
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the reality is, That's one of
the main problems that baseball has. It
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used to be When you were younger, did you care more? Yeah,
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there was more home runs hit big
names, but multiple names. What I'm
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00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:55.679
getting to in this is when I
was younger, like, I knew everybody
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in the division, right, I
knew the starting rotations, and granted I
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was you don't get into this without
growing up as a bit of a sports
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nerd, but I knew who the
regular starting lineup was. I knew who
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the main you know, starters and
the bullpen were. You knew everything about
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your division. You knew a lot
if you were good that year. You
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knew a lot about the rest of
the especially the National League, because those
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are the teams that you were going
to be, you know, hopefully battling
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in playoff races and on the way
to the World Series. And baseball now
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has become I care about my team, and I really don't have time for
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everything else. I really don't have
time to worry about everything else. And
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college sports is getting there. College
football is getting there fast. Because I
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know you're a diehard college football fan. Could could you tell me much about
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Oh, I don't know, pick
Penn State when it when it comes to
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what Penn State's team looks like next
year, how much could you tell me
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right now, nothing other than James
Freikle's still a head coach, right and
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then and five years ago you could
pretty much tell me, all right,
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they got this. These guys are
going to the NFL, these guys are
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coming back. This is going to
be their quarterback. Like you knew the
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basics on every team, right.
Do you know how much work and this
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is coming from somebody that works in
the industry and does this every day,
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how much work it is that,
how much work they have created right now
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to even know what your team looks
like, Taren, I am gonna go
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to spring football practice on Monday,
right, and I am not gonna know
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thirty guys on UC's roster. Thirty
I'm not gonna know who like I'm gonna
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I'm gonna have a roster in front
of me, and I'm gonna spend two
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days, five six maybe three days, five six eight hours looking at the
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00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:00.960
field and then looking down at my
roster because I don't know who is who
612
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:06.079
and where is where and what is
what? And it used to be Yeah,
613
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:07.519
surely you know day one, you've
got a couple guys. Okay,
614
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:13.519
okay, where's the new guys?
Who's Brian Cook, Who's Darien Beaver's Let's
615
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:20.039
get my eyes on them. I
do this for a living. This is
616
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:22.960
what I do every day, all
day. And I'm gonna get out there,
617
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:28.840
and it is gonna take me three
practices, four practices to get my
618
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.840
mind around what their roster looks like
for twenty twenty four. What do you
619
00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:38.800
think a fan that shows up to
Knippert Stadium in September that maybe has never
620
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:43.480
heard of Bearcat Journal. Maybe they
hate me so they won't subscribe to Bearcat
621
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:46.960
Journal. I don't know. Those
things are all possible. What do you
622
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:52.639
think that fan is gonna think when
they get there and they have to watch
623
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:57.159
their team go out onto the field
and look like essentially an entirely new team
624
00:51:57.199 --> 00:52:00.280
from a year ago. Last year's
since that he had ten of eleven new
625
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:07.519
starters on offense. This year there
could be six seven eight, we'll see
626
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:10.199
how it goes. They got a
new defense, new defensive coordinators, a
627
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:16.119
bunch of new players, six seven
eight nine new players on defense. If
628
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:22.880
it's becoming that much work to keep
up with your team, you don't have
629
00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:28.159
any ability to know what everybody else
is doing. You don't have any ability
630
00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:32.119
to understand your rivals and what threats
they present. If I went on a
631
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:36.880
Big twelve podcast right now and somebody
asks me about any other team in the
632
00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:42.400
Big Twelve, I would know very
little, very little. The first question
633
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:45.880
would probably be, oh, is
so and so still a quarterback? And
634
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:46.719
if the answer is yes, like, all right, they're probably going to
635
00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:52.920
be pretty good. The answers no, they're probably not going to be pretty
636
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:57.719
good. Who did they get out
of the portal at quarterback? We are
637
00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:02.519
creating an unsustainable model right now for
college football. And when you go through
638
00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:10.840
this fourteen team playoff scenario, you
want to know the biggest thing that happened
639
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:20.039
that was said in this article,
I'll read it to you. One high
640
00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:24.039
ranking official involved in the discussions told
ESPN on Wednesday that the presidents and chancellors
641
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:29.119
in both the SEC and Big Ten
are having conversations about whether to continue their
642
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:37.199
NCAA membership. It's a move that
would impact and could possibly derail the college
643
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:44.360
Football Playoff TV agreement, and the
source says those conversations are happening pretty strongly
644
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:52.960
about pulling away. I'd say very
strongly. So now we're looking at a
645
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:58.760
college football world that only includes the
Big ten in the SEC. Do you
646
00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:04.480
have any people are gonna stop watching? People that didn't grow up caring about
647
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:10.079
the SEC or the Big ten.
You're gonna push those people out. You're
648
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:17.320
gonna eliminate market share from all the
fan bases in the ACC, from all
649
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:21.639
the fan bases in the Big twelve
that are no longer going to watch your
650
00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:24.360
product because they have no connection to
it. They have no tie to it.
651
00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:28.519
It is not local to them.
They did not attend that school.
652
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:35.719
Here's the other thing that's important in
this tearn Like in the NFL model,
653
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:42.039
they built up to thirty two teams, they did not start it. They
654
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:45.239
did not start at sixty and narrow
down to thirty two. They did not
655
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:52.480
start at one hundred plus and narrow
down to whatever this Big ten SEC spin
656
00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:59.519
off is going to be. There
are big city connections for all of the
657
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:02.360
NFL teams, And what does that
connection mean? That means generally, if
658
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:07.719
you're a Cincinnati resident, you root
for the Cincinnati Bengals. Where are most
659
00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:12.679
of these college towns in the Big
ten in the SEC? They are not
660
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:20.519
in big cities. Now, does
Texas have you know, great support in
661
00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:24.880
Dallas. Sure does Georgia have great
support in Atlanta. Sure some of that
662
00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:30.880
is going to stay and ring true, But you are not going to have
663
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:44.320
major metropolitan areas propping these things up. But and this was inevitable once the
664
00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:49.400
greed entered in, once the money
started, once the money really started,
665
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:58.599
and the presidents and the chancellors of
these universities started looking at it as for
666
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:02.800
the longest time, it was like
an advertisement for the university. It was
667
00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:10.159
introducing people to Alabama and Georgia and
whatever, Texas, Oklahoma. Now it
668
00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:19.039
is a money grab. And the
thing that just I can't get my brain
669
00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:23.079
around. You know what that money
grab includes tarn continuing not to pay the
670
00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:29.199
players and telling the fans it's your
job to pay the players. We're gonna
671
00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:32.320
cash the checks, we're gonna make
the money, and it's your job to
672
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:36.360
pay the players. And if we
don't win at a high enough level,
673
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:40.760
it's your fault, is the fans, because you didn't give enough money to
674
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:46.159
buy the players that I need to
win. While said coach is making seven
675
00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:57.880
million dollars a year and his staff
is making nine, this sport is about
676
00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:01.639
to drive itself. Tunesus the driving
cat is about to drive this sport off
677
00:57:01.639 --> 00:57:08.039
a cliff. If you're old like
me, that made you chuckle. If
678
00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:10.719
you're young, you're looking at your
radio and going, what in the hell
679
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:16.360
is he talking about? We're going
to talk to Justin Williams. Hear in
680
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:22.320
about ten minutes about the same thing. More after this Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
681
00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:39.000
Cincinnati's esp one Time Welcome Back,
Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Chad Brenda
682
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:45.039
filling in for Mowagger, rolling through
a Thursday afternoon. We'll talk to Justin
683
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:52.239
Williams here in a few minutes.
Let's go to our guy, Charlie Goldsmith's
684
00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:55.280
Twitter feed or x feed or TwixT
feed or whatever you want to call it.
685
00:57:57.320 --> 00:58:04.039
Talking to David Bell from year David
Bell on Jonathan India. Our plan
686
00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:07.039
was to time it up so he's
ready. If he doesn't have any setbacks,
687
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:09.599
he'll be ready for opening day.
Part of the reason we're being conservative
688
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:15.239
is so we don't have any setbacks, so we will not you know,
689
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:20.079
as this would lead you to believe
we will not see Jonathan India in spring.
690
00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:27.360
He will have to ramp up as
the season starts. Not ideal,
691
00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:32.280
but you have depth there, so
as long as other things are back on
692
00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:38.800
track, that shouldn't be devastating news. That's why you spend so much of
693
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:49.920
this off season building depth and making
yourself, putting yourself in a better situation
694
00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:54.079
to not have to rely on the
back of your roster being young guys that
695
00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:59.079
aren't ready or guys that are twenty
eight to twenty nine years old that have
696
00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:06.800
proven they're not good enough to play
at this level. This is why you've
697
00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:12.559
done that, also says Sam Maul, Alex Young and Emilio Pegan are all
698
00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:17.800
progressing well and throwing. Nicolodolo has
a big live bullpen today, which Bell
699
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:22.400
said will shape the plan for his
next steps. And also Matt McLain got
700
00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:27.840
tested and was confirmed a clean bill
of health. What what did he get
701
00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:36.239
tested for? It's awkward they did? Is there? Do they? Is
702
00:59:36.239 --> 00:59:39.119
there a like a you pee on
a stick and it tells you if your
703
00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:43.199
oblique is better or not? Like? What kind of tests did he take?
704
00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:46.880
Maybe maybe I'll have Austin. Can
we have Austin ask what kind of
705
00:59:46.920 --> 00:59:53.679
test Matt McLean took tomorrow? I
think that's important. But he's ramping up
706
00:59:53.719 --> 01:00:00.239
so Hopefully you'll see Matt McLean here
soon. He's my favorite hitter on this
707
01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:07.400
team right now. He's so smooth
with the bat. So there you go.
708
01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:12.559
That's a little bit of an update
from Charlie Goldsmith. We'll talk some
709
01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:16.079
more Reds in the five o'clock hour, but for now, let's take a
710
01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:22.599
break. When we come back,
Justin Williams from the Athletic I'm gonna try
711
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:27.880
to have him talk me off the
ledge on this CFP stuff and what's happening
712
01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:44.960
in the world of college sports.
Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's ES thirty.
713
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:47.000
It was a clear black Knight,
a clear white moon woman. She
714
01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:52.239
was on this Welcome back, Cincinnati's
ESPN fifteen thirty. So we can get
715
01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:55.800
some phone. The song kind of
hurts Terrence just hit the side of the
716
01:00:55.960 --> 01:01:00.599
LBC because I used to have,
like, you know, somebody, I
717
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:06.000
thought it was like my ride or
die. You know, if I got
718
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:08.679
if I got mugged in a dice
game, that he would show up and
719
01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:15.719
and start popping fools. Uh,
but not anymore, not anymore. We
720
01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:21.000
we don't even we don't even play
dice anymore. Now he he's he's much
721
01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:23.840
bigger than than our little beat and
he doesn't have time for me with the
722
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:27.840
roulette tables. Yeah, he's at
the roulette tables now. I'm still I'm
723
01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:31.480
still shooting dice with the homies.
Uh, welcome in, Justin Williams from
724
01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:37.880
from the Atic. What's up?
Brother? If you ever had any thoughts
725
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:42.239
that I could save you from from
some dice game, skerm as like we
726
01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:46.679
were we were both in trouble.
Well, probably you're scattering report that is
727
01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:52.760
not so if we're being honest,
it would probably be the other way around.
728
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:57.679
You were getting robbed at the dice
game and I came in and busted
729
01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:00.760
a cap in the fools and got
you out of it. Yes, absolutely,
730
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:04.960
And you know, you never know
where the world takes. We might
731
01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:08.599
find ourselves in that situation some days, but sometimes just don't. Don't if
732
01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:12.679
you're if you're there looking for me
in that situation, I'm just going to
733
01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:15.559
be you know, I'll go down
with you. But we're definitely going down.
734
01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:19.679
Yeah. Why you know, Kegan
is not going to save me either.
735
01:02:19.719 --> 01:02:22.760
I can tell you that. No, he would. He's nice and
736
01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:24.599
he would difuse the situation. He
find the way out. Hey, guys,
737
01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:29.719
can we talk this out? Cat
cat cat? Oh, there goes
738
01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:35.280
key. And but you are going
to spring practice starts Monday. You are
739
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:38.599
going to be at all the spring
practices, right whoa, whoa, whoa,
740
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:45.000
hey, hey, spring practice.
It's basketball season. I do.
741
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:47.559
I'm hoping to get down down the
spring practice. You know, at least
742
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:52.000
a couple of times three o'cock spring
practices. That's a lot different than than
743
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:54.960
eight nine a m. Than like
the old days. This is this is
744
01:02:55.000 --> 01:03:00.280
true. It's it's the schedule is
a little bit different. But you know,
745
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:05.519
if basketball basketball schedule allows, I'd
love to get out there, especially
746
01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:09.679
if the weather cooperates real quick.
Your your number one storyline for spring ball
747
01:03:09.719 --> 01:03:15.400
for Cincinnati, it's Brendon Sorsby.
Does it have to be gotta be right?
748
01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:20.280
I mean it's always quarterback anyways,
but especially you know, after kind
749
01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:23.000
of the struggles there last season.
Curious to see how how he looks,
750
01:03:23.039 --> 01:03:27.280
and you know, it's a storyline
every year in college football. Now the
751
01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:30.840
quarterback's moving around, it can change
your fortunes quite a bit. So if
752
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:35.519
he's the real deal, it it
could change some Sinnaty's feeling significantly. All
753
01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:43.719
right, let's let's talk about the
fourteen team college football playoff. I would
754
01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:46.920
not have had a problem with this
if we were to continued along the path
755
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:52.280
of every conference gets in autobid and
everything else you have to earn. But
756
01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:57.920
to hear, you know, the
Power conferences are going to take up well
757
01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:02.360
three, six ten of the fourteen
spots, and you give one spot to
758
01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:06.440
the G five, one probably to
Notre Dame as long as they're having,
759
01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:11.840
you know, a regular Notre Dame
type season, then there's two at large
760
01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:15.239
spots left. Like this doesn't feel
this feels like an invitational. This doesn't
761
01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:19.679
feel like a tournament. Like it
feels like it's terrible for the sport.
762
01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:25.039
Yeah, you know, seems that
people compare it to like the Champions League
763
01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:28.880
and European Soccer and things like that, but that's not you know, that
764
01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:32.800
happens concurrent with the regular season in
the league. They have a much you
765
01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:36.280
know, simpler, better way to
figure out what the champion is. So
766
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:41.559
no, I'm totally with you.
I know, it's just kind of hypothetical
767
01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:44.920
and they're still figuring it out.
But usually when things like this get leaked,
768
01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:47.360
right, it means that there's some
some smoke to it. What I
769
01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:51.119
couldn't help thinking about is, you
know, not that long ago, remember
770
01:04:51.159 --> 01:04:57.280
when the twelve the original twelve team
model kind of got floated out there where
771
01:04:57.320 --> 01:05:02.800
it was bowlsby and Greg Sankee and
you know everyone's gonna get the one,
772
01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:05.800
you know, automatic qualifier and all
that kind of stuff, and just you
773
01:05:05.840 --> 01:05:10.079
know, in college football, a
sport that never seemed to be able to
774
01:05:10.119 --> 01:05:13.440
like figure out how to do this
stuff, everyone is kind of shocked,
775
01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:15.719
like, hey, this actually,
like I think a lot of it makes
776
01:05:15.719 --> 01:05:19.079
a lot of sense. And little
did we know that, Like while Bob
777
01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:21.880
Bolthfee was telling us about this,
Greg thank you was you know, like
778
01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:26.840
taking Texas and Oklahoma behind his back, and it just you know, I
779
01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:29.039
know, we're still going to have
the twelve team for a couple of years.
780
01:05:29.079 --> 01:05:31.159
It's similar to that, but it
was like only for it felt like
781
01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:34.960
a very brief what couple of weeks
we actually said like, hey, college
782
01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:38.880
football, you figured out how to
do something about screwing it up, and
783
01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:41.679
then it went and screwed it up, and it just you know, it
784
01:05:41.760 --> 01:05:45.960
kind of feels similar in that the
twelve team wasn't perfect, especially after they
785
01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:48.159
had to switch it around with the
cops is getting blown up. But I
786
01:05:48.199 --> 01:05:51.639
think most, for the most part, people were excited about the twelve team
787
01:05:51.639 --> 01:05:55.519
and at least to see it happen, And before we even get to it,
788
01:05:55.519 --> 01:05:57.960
they're like already trying to figure out
how to screw it up with this
789
01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:00.480
four team on. And one of
the things I just talked about, I'm
790
01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:05.039
sure you were listening intently at the
top of the hour, You know it.
791
01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:11.480
It is really difficult for me,
justin to even know what Cincinnati's roster
792
01:06:11.639 --> 01:06:15.480
is. How difficult is it for
you, a guy that is now like
793
01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:19.920
a in a role where you need
to know pretty much as much about the
794
01:06:19.960 --> 01:06:26.719
Big Twelve as you can, Like, isn't it almost impossible to day by
795
01:06:26.840 --> 01:06:30.239
day just know what's going on at
each of these schools in this conference,
796
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:33.840
even though it is your job and
you get paid well to do it,
797
01:06:33.960 --> 01:06:40.079
or you get paid okay to do
it, but it's your job to know
798
01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:43.800
these things. And it's difficult for
you. If it's difficult for me to
799
01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:46.559
know Cincinnati's roster and that's my job, and it's difficult for you to know
800
01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:53.000
the Big twelve rosters and that's your
job, how is casual fan Timmy from
801
01:06:53.119 --> 01:06:58.280
Dell High supposed to to keep up
with all of this. Yeah, I
802
01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:01.480
mean it definitely has changed the sport. It's impact sport, and it's only
803
01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:04.480
going to keep happening, you know. I mean that's you know, we
804
01:07:04.519 --> 01:07:09.199
can talk about whether it's this or
the NIL stuff or that. You know,
805
01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:13.079
there's talk of them now having to
expand the the NCAA tournament here in
806
01:07:13.119 --> 01:07:16.559
the coming years. And I understand
why this is being talked about because of
807
01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:21.039
the TV and the money and the
conference changing. But I think what's going
808
01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:26.039
to happen kind of the front end
of the changes that we've gotten are I
809
01:07:26.079 --> 01:07:29.440
think a lot of things that were
better for fans, like there's more games
810
01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:32.519
on TV, and you know,
it's it's you can see more. It's
811
01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:36.519
all blown up more. And the
money impacted that, and now we're getting
812
01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:40.519
the longer tail that, which I'm
not saying is a bad thing. If
813
01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:43.079
the if the sport's going to make
all this money, then yeah, I
814
01:07:43.079 --> 01:07:45.840
think probably the people who are playing
it should be benefiting from that. And
815
01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:48.360
and how you know, some of
those things are going to change, but
816
01:07:48.960 --> 01:07:51.400
the changes what's going to have to
come from that? And it's it's going
817
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:55.119
to look a lot different than it
did, you know, even five ten
818
01:07:55.199 --> 01:07:58.360
years ago, and is certainly going
back further than that. Our old buddy
819
01:07:58.360 --> 01:08:04.960
Pete Damil ported yesterday the three source
and unnamed source that the Big Ten and
820
01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:12.000
the SEC are talking about breaking away
from the the NCAA, and some people,
821
01:08:12.639 --> 01:08:17.359
according to his source, believe very
strongly that they should. What would
822
01:08:17.399 --> 01:08:21.800
that look like? And you're not
what does it look like if they break
823
01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:27.720
away? Because I don't think it's
feasible. I think you alienate so many
824
01:08:27.720 --> 01:08:32.039
people that will walk away. I
don't understand the thought process behind it other
825
01:08:32.119 --> 01:08:36.479
than we want the control and we
want all the money and screw the rest
826
01:08:36.479 --> 01:08:41.560
of you. Yeah. I mean
my guess is if that happened, it
827
01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:45.680
would it would look like football breaking
away, and they would find some way
828
01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:48.119
to bring along. You know.
I think the initial reports about the fourteen
829
01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:53.319
team playoff, even where the SEC
and in the Big Ten kind of like
830
01:08:53.399 --> 01:08:56.920
floating, hey, what if we
got four automatic qualifiers for us? And
831
01:08:57.039 --> 01:09:00.079
you know, and which was again
brilliant negotiating because they knew that would be
832
01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:01.920
a no. So then when they
say, all right, fine, we'll
833
01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:04.680
take three, everyone feels like,
oh, okay, well you know Greigs,
834
01:09:04.680 --> 01:09:08.880
thank you, he really does have
hard best interests at heart. Sure,
835
01:09:09.560 --> 01:09:12.960
you know, this is what that
feels like, where if you you
836
01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:15.159
know, if you dangle all right, like, hey, you know,
837
01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:17.760
SEC, Big ten, we're at
the controls here, we're going to break
838
01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:23.119
off on our own. Well,
then when the Big ten and SEC you
839
01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:27.079
know, have more control over whatever
actually ends up happening, then everyone's going
840
01:09:27.119 --> 01:09:29.880
to feel like, hey, at
least the Big ten and the SEC didn't
841
01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:32.760
totally break apart, in the Big
twelve and the ACC and some of these
842
01:09:32.760 --> 01:09:36.279
Group of five conferences and programs,
well, we actually do still have a
843
01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:40.359
little bit of a role in this
or a seat at the table. That's
844
01:09:40.359 --> 01:09:43.840
what this all seems positioning to me, is like, you know, we're
845
01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:45.960
going to set the expectation here as
it's going to be terrible, so that
846
01:09:46.039 --> 01:09:49.159
when we give you something that's a
little less terrible, you actually think it's
847
01:09:49.479 --> 01:09:53.359
kind of charitable or like in four
or five years from now, when they
848
01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:55.840
go, okay, we're going to
sixteen and now the SEC and the Big
849
01:09:55.840 --> 01:10:00.399
ten have four auto bids. Yeah, and for again, it's if we're
850
01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:03.800
we totally removed the group of five
aspects or uh, you know, the
851
01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:08.600
it's the out there's one at large
and it automatically goes to door day or
852
01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:13.319
something like that. Again, they're
gonna figure out. And I also from
853
01:10:13.319 --> 01:10:15.079
their perspective, like, yeah,
if you're Greg, thank you, that's
854
01:10:15.119 --> 01:10:19.000
your job. You're the SEC commissioner. If you're Tony Pettiti, you're the
855
01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:24.479
big So to me, it all
goes back to which everyone who has covered
856
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:27.319
or been a fan of college sports
for a long time so the same thing
857
01:10:27.359 --> 01:10:32.439
as like, there has been zero
leadership, zero proactive leadership of college athletics
858
01:10:32.439 --> 01:10:36.520
for a long time now, and
someone like Greg Thanky has come along and
859
01:10:36.680 --> 01:10:40.920
found a way to kind of gain
some of that control. Well, of
860
01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:45.600
course he's gonna work in the best
interest of the SEC in charge of Yeah,
861
01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:46.640
so you know, yes you can. People can. They came out
862
01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:50.000
to be the bad guy or whoever
the ESPN, the television nevers have to
863
01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:53.319
be the bad guy. That's fine, you know. The bigger problem to
864
01:10:53.359 --> 01:10:57.840
me is that the NCAA or just
college sports in general never figured out a
865
01:10:57.920 --> 01:11:02.359
cohesive leadership, you know, system
that works, and now they're kind of
866
01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:10.399
it's it's the reckoning from that.
I if you're the Big twelve, like
867
01:11:10.439 --> 01:11:13.119
you, you kind of have to
just take this and be like, yes,
868
01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:15.800
sir, thank you, mayn having
to please. We really appreciate you
869
01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:18.479
giving us two spots, sir.
Like if you're the ACC, you don't
870
01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:21.520
have a choice either, like you
just you. They've got you in such
871
01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:26.640
a position. They have such a
stranglehold on everything, and now the NC
872
01:11:26.720 --> 01:11:30.680
double A is saying we're going to
turn over most everything to you. Because
873
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:34.800
the NC double A, everything they
do is apparently illegal. Every decision they
874
01:11:34.840 --> 01:11:41.800
make is apparently not not within the
law. It just feels like it's we're
875
01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:48.279
in a hopeless cycle right here,
that there's no real solution to other than
876
01:11:48.640 --> 01:11:53.479
what is happening, which is the
people that are in power are just going
877
01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:57.960
to continue to take more of the
power. Yeah, it's like the taboo
878
01:11:57.960 --> 01:12:00.319
game when you say the wrong word
and you hit the buzzer. It's just
879
01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:03.880
they just say anti trust anytime to
say something. But they're anti trust violation,
880
01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:06.840
anti trust violation. No, you're
right about the first part. Like,
881
01:12:08.199 --> 01:12:10.720
you know, I think brett Or
Mark's a really smart guy, a
882
01:12:10.720 --> 01:12:15.479
good deal maker, but you know
they're offering the Big twelve two automatic qualifiers
883
01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:18.359
that would have meant what Oklahoma State
would have gotten into the playoff based on
884
01:12:18.439 --> 01:12:24.079
last season. Like I love Oli
Gordon, that Oklahoma State team had probably
885
01:12:24.119 --> 01:12:27.920
no business being anywhere near a playoff. So yeah, if you're the Big
886
01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:30.640
twelve, you're right, you kind
of got to say, well, maybe
887
01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:33.079
we don't love this, or maybe
this is the Big ten and the SEC
888
01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:35.560
flexen a little bit, but you
kind of take what you can get.
889
01:12:35.800 --> 01:12:39.039
It's probably the same thing with a
group of five, like, Okay,
890
01:12:39.079 --> 01:12:43.279
they have one automatic qualifying spot.
That's not really fair. They could just
891
01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:45.039
as easily be like, fine,
you guys are completely cut out altogether.
892
01:12:47.439 --> 01:12:50.119
Yeah, maybe that will eventually happen. Maybe it should happen. That's it's
893
01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:54.760
still a tough thing, I think
for for people who have followed those programs
894
01:12:54.760 --> 01:12:58.000
in the sport for a long time
to get their arms around right now.
895
01:12:58.079 --> 01:13:01.720
So I hope that they will will
figure something out. I don't have a
896
01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:05.319
ton of confidence, but I also
think, like, you know, it
897
01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:09.479
will alienate some people, right,
you're gonna have less diehard fans, or
898
01:13:09.479 --> 01:13:13.239
maybe you're gonna lose some fans.
I also think that if you're playing a
899
01:13:13.319 --> 01:13:16.600
fourteen team, you know college football
playoffs, that the TV ratings are going
900
01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:19.560
to be crazy and it's going to
totally justify it, and I'll still be
901
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:23.159
watching it. I'm sure you will
be too. So I don't necessarily know
902
01:13:23.159 --> 01:13:25.520
what the right answer is, but
I know it's going to be different,
903
01:13:25.560 --> 01:13:28.319
and I know it's not going to
feel the same way it has in the
904
01:13:28.359 --> 01:13:31.720
past. We have to watch it. It's our job. I could not
905
01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:36.800
watch it if I wanted to,
right, Probably, Yeah, probably that's
906
01:13:36.840 --> 01:13:41.159
the problem. That's that's where I
always come down. I'm just like,
907
01:13:41.199 --> 01:13:43.520
well, what am I going to
do? Quit my job or not watch
908
01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:45.840
it? Well? No, of
course not so Again, I wish I
909
01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:49.439
was smart enough to have the right
answer, but so far it has not
910
01:13:49.880 --> 01:13:53.760
hasn't come across my desk yet.
Real quick, is that the end of
911
01:13:53.800 --> 01:13:57.760
conference championship games? Before I let
you go, I don't have a conference
912
01:13:57.840 --> 01:14:00.840
championship game. If you have three
two and three qualify fuyres for every major
913
01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:04.800
conference, it definitely puts, you
know, like less importance on it for
914
01:14:05.199 --> 01:14:09.920
the Big COAL and the a SEC
in this scenario. But you know,
915
01:14:10.039 --> 01:14:14.960
I also think there's they'll find some
way to incentivize that, or within the
916
01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:17.680
conferences, they'll find some way to
incentivize it, whether it's money or whatever.
917
01:14:18.039 --> 01:14:20.560
So I don't know that it totally
goes away, but I think it's
918
01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:24.399
going to add some more strategy.
Or if you're like a team looking ahead
919
01:14:24.720 --> 01:14:27.680
and you're like, we can build
in a buy by not playing in the
920
01:14:27.720 --> 01:14:30.479
Commerce Championship game and still getting in
the playoffs. So it's something that are
921
01:14:30.479 --> 01:14:33.560
going to figure out. But my
guess is with all the money floating around,
922
01:14:33.760 --> 01:14:36.880
they'll find a way to make it
incentive. All right, where can
923
01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:44.479
they find you? At? Williams
Underscore, justin and like hiding outside whatever
924
01:14:44.640 --> 01:14:50.000
dice game you can fight out apparently
with a gun loaded, caltering behind the
925
01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:54.600
trash can, probably hoping you come
running out sixteen in the clip and one
926
01:14:54.640 --> 01:14:59.319
in the hole. Justin, Nate
Dogg's about to make some bodies turn cold.
927
01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:03.560
Get it together. I'll see I'll
see you Monday, three o'clock Nippert
928
01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:14.039
Stadium. Probably not all right,
thanks man, Well we will talk soon.
929
01:15:14.119 --> 01:15:19.279
I appreciate it. There you go, Justin Williams from the Athletics.
930
01:15:19.279 --> 01:15:24.000
Take a break more after this,
since I an he's ESPN fifteenth thirty from
931
01:15:24.039 --> 01:15:56.359
Disney animation Stuf Dog. He told
me, he wrote, Justin definitely wouldn't
932
01:15:56.479 --> 01:16:00.399
be the Nate Dog in that situation. No, he is not saving me.
933
01:16:01.560 --> 01:16:06.439
He's just watching as I get robbed
and probably beat up and left to
934
01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:10.720
die in the gutter. No,
he'll probably try to find a pay phone.
935
01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:21.319
The cops ain't getting there in time. Darren. No, no zero
936
01:16:21.399 --> 01:16:27.279
in the clip and none in the
hole. Justin's just gonna watch me die.
937
01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:30.119
Well know, he probably went back
to find those those girls. Yeah,
938
01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:33.119
that's exactly. He didn't leave those
girls, did He didn't come looking
939
01:16:33.119 --> 01:16:36.880
for me in the first place.
You ever seen the guy on TikTok that
940
01:16:38.039 --> 01:16:45.199
like he just he summarizes hip hop
songs based on like the plot of the
941
01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:47.439
song, and he just talks you
through it. And you know, on
942
01:16:47.479 --> 01:16:51.119
that when he would be like,
well, Warren G was having a wonderful
943
01:16:51.159 --> 01:16:57.199
evening and got involved in a local
dice game and things went wrong, and
944
01:16:57.239 --> 01:17:00.720
then Nate Dogg who was trolling that, you know, so peruising the streets
945
01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:05.079
for some female companionship, Like it
is so funny, It is so funny
946
01:17:06.479 --> 01:17:12.279
that and the other ones that I
Love or the Tiktoks where they they break
947
01:17:12.359 --> 01:17:15.359
down songs that you've known for a
long time, like and you never paid
948
01:17:15.399 --> 01:17:19.119
attention to the words, and they
have the words on the screen, and
949
01:17:19.159 --> 01:17:21.960
there's this one dude that'll like he'll
sit there and he'll be like looking up,
950
01:17:23.039 --> 01:17:27.119
like listening to it. And then
they'll get to the part that is
951
01:17:27.239 --> 01:17:30.920
like what did he just and he'll
listen, like he'll turn his head and
952
01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:32.479
listen to it real intently, and
then when it gets to the bad bad
953
01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:42.079
party just walks away. Oh,
big news in college sports, hearn.
954
01:17:42.680 --> 01:17:49.920
I just think Caitlin Clark has declared
for the w NBA draft, have I
955
01:17:49.920 --> 01:17:54.800
I want to make sure I've phrased
this right, because I enjoy watching Kaitlyn
956
01:17:54.840 --> 01:17:59.479
Clark play. I think some of
it is probably my schedule during the basketball
957
01:17:59.520 --> 01:18:01.960
season, doesn't you know. I've
got to watch a lot of Big twelve
958
01:18:01.960 --> 01:18:05.600
games to be familiar with the teams. I've got to watch a lot of
959
01:18:05.680 --> 01:18:11.359
U see, We've got a lot
of shows that we do. Is she
960
01:18:11.600 --> 01:18:16.600
really the biggest star in college sports
right now? Because I've heard that argument
961
01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:21.760
made, and I just don't think
I'm educated enough to like to take a
962
01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:28.600
side. Yes, I think she's
definitely the biggest star in college basketball,
963
01:18:28.600 --> 01:18:34.800
because men's college basketball doesn't have a
star right now. There's nobody at Duke
964
01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:41.359
that's the face of the game.
There's nobody at Kentucky. You know,
965
01:18:41.520 --> 01:18:45.239
Kansas doesn't have I get what Hunter
Dickinson is the biggest name in college basketball.
966
01:18:45.640 --> 01:18:49.880
No, Zach aty but Zak Edy's
boring. Yeah, exactly, Like
967
01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:54.399
I can't say Zach Edy is the
biggest name in the sport. There's nothing
968
01:18:55.039 --> 01:18:58.000
that pops about Zach eat. He
literally is the biggest name. He's a
969
01:18:58.079 --> 01:19:02.760
giant human, of course he well, the Castle kid from Yukonie is right
970
01:19:02.840 --> 01:19:11.439
up there. But not Castle,
but uh damn it, I call him
971
01:19:11.520 --> 01:19:17.199
baby Gumpter. Castle is the transfer
they got, the scoring guard. But
972
01:19:17.319 --> 01:19:21.960
anyhow, I guess she is the
biggest name. How excited are you?
973
01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:28.800
She's gonna be an Indie exactly,
playing alongside a local product Kelsey Mitchell hopefully.
974
01:19:28.920 --> 01:19:31.199
Yeah, I mean you're gonna get
to go watch your you you love
975
01:19:31.720 --> 01:19:35.600
women's basketball. Yes, I'm already
looking forward to when they play the Aces.
976
01:19:35.600 --> 01:19:39.319
They play the Aces back to back
in Indie in September. I'm already
977
01:19:39.319 --> 01:19:44.560
looking forward to that matchup. Get
you some chicken scratch watch if you if
978
01:19:44.720 --> 01:19:47.319
if the line's down under two hours
at that point in time, right,
979
01:19:47.800 --> 01:19:51.279
But I mean, that's gonna be
that's gonna be a big Do you think
980
01:19:51.319 --> 01:19:54.840
do you think it's the right move. There's a lot of talk that she
981
01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:58.800
could have made more in n I
L standing in college than if she went
982
01:19:58.800 --> 01:20:01.000
to the w n B. A. Yeah, I much rather see her
983
01:20:01.119 --> 01:20:05.680
to her start the process of helping
the WNBA expand and grow and get what
984
01:20:05.720 --> 01:20:11.720
they want. I think with the
help of her angel rees Page Becker's I
985
01:20:11.760 --> 01:20:14.680
mean this JACT class is about to
be usual for the WNBA. Yeah,
986
01:20:14.760 --> 01:20:19.640
I agree with that. I just
I love watching her play. She's so
987
01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:25.199
exciting. I just don't have the
time really to like sit down and dive
988
01:20:25.239 --> 01:20:30.439
in to like how high her star
has risen. I know everywhere she goes
989
01:20:30.439 --> 01:20:32.680
it sells out and it's like a
rock concert like that's usually the first sign
990
01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:38.640
is a place that normally has two
thousand people in attendance now has ten Like,
991
01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:43.000
Okay, there's something different going on
here. But I haven't had the
992
01:20:43.640 --> 01:20:48.279
opportunity to get too immersed in it. But I mean another people in India,
993
01:20:48.279 --> 01:20:55.479
your hype very the PACER's hot Indiana
Fever. Now the Colts can get
994
01:20:55.520 --> 01:20:58.680
it together. Well, that's a
basketball town, like they genuine they just
995
01:20:58.720 --> 01:21:01.680
love baseball, you know. All
right, let's take a break. Three
996
01:21:01.680 --> 01:21:09.720
o'clock hour coming up, Guest free
phone lines are open all hour. Call
997
01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:13.079
us Mike. Where are you,
Mike? I missed you. I've been
998
01:21:13.119 --> 01:21:15.359
here two days. I haven't talked
to you yet since that. He's ESPN
999
01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:26.520
fifteen thirty. This is sports Setup. I'm Doug Brown with breaking news.
1000
01:21:26.640 --> 01:21:30.840
Iowa's Caitlin Clark will enter the WNBA
Draft. She's projected to be the number
1001
01:21:30.840 --> 01:21:35.720
one overall pick by the Indiana Fever. Just last night, Clark passed Lynette
1002
01:21:35.720 --> 01:21:41.600
Woodard of Kansas to become the all
time major college women's basketball scoring leader.
1003
01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:45.199
Speaking to the media for the first
time since he got hurt, Seventy six
1004
01:21:45.319 --> 01:21:47.880
Ers center Joe Lmbad says he hopes
to be back before the end of the
1005
01:21:47.880 --> 01:21:53.119
regular season, no matter what the
team's record may be. He hurt his
1006
01:21:53.239 --> 01:21:57.720
left knee a month ago. The
Sixers are seven and seventeen without him.
1007
01:21:58.039 --> 01:22:01.119
The NFL Draft starts eight weeks from
today and R mel kiper Junior isn't sure
1008
01:22:01.199 --> 01:22:05.680
what to make of Michigan quarterback JJ
McCarthy, I thanks, most difficult player
1009
01:22:05.680 --> 01:22:09.079
in this you have to evaluate in
terms of the first rounder, so and
1010
01:22:09.119 --> 01:22:12.720
maybe the most difficult quarterback evaluating years
now, we've missed on some of those,
1011
01:22:12.760 --> 01:22:14.640
but we at least knew what we
thought. We could be wrong,
1012
01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:17.319
but we at least knew we had
a little conviction about that guy, good
1013
01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:19.920
or bad. Here with J.
J McCarthy, I just throw up my
1014
01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:24.960
art to say I don't know.
Mel kiper on Carlin versus Joe Iowa corner
1015
01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:28.880
Cooper Ja Jean says he's still recovering
from a broken left leg, but will
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01:22:28.920 --> 01:22:31.520
work out for NFL teams. Hey, it's a resident Super Bowl chaf Chris
1017
01:22:31.560 --> 01:22:34.399
Kenny coming on Friday. As the
workouts get started at the Common, I'll
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01:22:34.399 --> 01:22:38.920
tell you the one prospect who has
a lot riding on his performance. It's
1019
01:22:38.960 --> 01:22:42.920
on sports for like six am Eastern
right here on ESPN Radio, ESPN two
1020
01:22:42.960 --> 01:22:54.000
and ESPN U Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Traffic from the UC Health Traffic Center
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from the Common to the Complex,
the UC Gardner Neuroscience Institute specializes in minimumly
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invasive to new innovative sties for brain, spine, and nerve conditions. There's
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an accident on two seventy five West
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nine and there's a disabled on the
right shoulder of two seventy five West at
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01:23:09.119 --> 01:23:13.039
four to seventy one. I'm John
Crawford with traffic. This report is brought
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to you by Just the Bengals like
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Welcome
1027
01:23:30.840 --> 01:23:35.159
back hour three. Here we go
Thursday in the Queens City. I'm Chad
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01:23:35.159 --> 01:23:43.279
Brenda and FROMO Egger. A lot
to get to as we rolled down the
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01:23:43.319 --> 01:23:57.800
home stretch. I thank you for
choosing me. I appreciate it. I
1030
01:23:57.840 --> 01:24:02.319
really do. You guys are too
kind. Phone lines are open all hour
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01:24:02.439 --> 01:24:04.439
five, one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty.
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01:24:04.439 --> 01:24:09.199
We haven't had a ton of time
to go to the phones over the past
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01:24:09.239 --> 01:24:14.279
couple of days. We had,
you know, Tuesday, you had Zach
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01:24:14.319 --> 01:24:20.840
and Duke from the Combine. Yesterday
we were pretty guest heavy. Today we
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01:24:20.920 --> 01:24:26.119
had James and we had Justin.
I'm free the rest of the way.
1036
01:24:26.159 --> 01:24:29.479
I'm wide open. I do have
a couple of things I want to get
1037
01:24:29.479 --> 01:24:35.520
to. One of them continues to
be looking at why from the outside and
1038
01:24:35.560 --> 01:24:41.840
this is the national media, this
is Vegas, this is basically everybody outside
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01:24:41.840 --> 01:24:45.720
of Cincinnati. There's not really anyone
outside of the people that are in this
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01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:53.520
town that are super high on this
Reds team. Most have them right at
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01:24:53.680 --> 01:24:59.079
or a touch below five hundred.
And I think as fans, there's a
1042
01:24:59.079 --> 01:25:02.840
lot of excitement here because we saw
the potential of this team last season.
1043
01:25:02.840 --> 01:25:09.079
We also saw a team that got
fatigued down the stretch. They ran out
1044
01:25:09.079 --> 01:25:14.239
of gas. And that's not surprising
because it is not normal to have five,
1045
01:25:14.399 --> 01:25:18.399
six, seven, eight rookies be
such a major part of your identity
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01:25:18.399 --> 01:25:24.960
of your success, and going through
their first turn as major leaguers, it's
1047
01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:30.239
not a surprise that they they faded
a little bit, but it's almost like
1048
01:25:30.279 --> 01:25:36.960
they're not getting that bump for now
having gone through that experience, for now
1049
01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:42.680
going into your second season. But
it's interesting because you know, I spend
1050
01:25:42.720 --> 01:25:44.960
a lot of my time in the
college basketball world. You know what they
1051
01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:50.039
say in college basketball, right Terren, the best thing that happens to a
1052
01:25:50.079 --> 01:25:56.720
freshman is he becomes a sophomore,
Like there is a sophomore jump that most
1053
01:25:56.760 --> 01:26:02.399
players take in college basketball, or
sophomore slump that's baseball, the sophomore slump
1054
01:26:05.520 --> 01:26:11.199
in baseball. It's almost expected that
you were really good as a rookie,
1055
01:26:11.239 --> 01:26:15.560
you're probably gonna fall off as a
sophomore or you know, a second year
1056
01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:20.600
guy. But guess what did we
see that with Jonathan India his the year
1057
01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:26.560
after his Rookie of the Year,
Yeah we did. Do we see that
1058
01:26:26.600 --> 01:26:33.079
with Tyler Stevenson that same year?
Yeah? Yeah, we kind of did.
1059
01:26:34.279 --> 01:26:41.079
But in exploring why, there's not
a whole lot that makes sense other
1060
01:26:41.159 --> 01:26:46.920
than that. I'm going to get
to my point, But first we'll go
1061
01:26:46.960 --> 01:26:51.359
to Nick, who wants to talk
about this very subject. Nick, why
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01:26:51.439 --> 01:26:58.199
are the people outside the walls of
two seventy five not as high on the
1063
01:26:58.239 --> 01:27:00.880
reds in your opinion? Well,
I'll tell you in just a secon chav
1064
01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:04.000
But first I want to ask you
a question based on what you said yesterday.
1065
01:27:04.079 --> 01:27:10.119
Now, what makes you think that
Pac is more timeless than Biggie Small
1066
01:27:10.199 --> 01:27:14.239
or less timeless than Biggie's fault?
I just don't feel like Pok's music aged
1067
01:27:14.279 --> 01:27:16.560
as well as biggies did. I
just in to my ear, to my
1068
01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:20.520
like, I used to listen to
Tupac a ton growing up. When I
1069
01:27:20.560 --> 01:27:23.960
listened to it now, it doesn't
move the needle for me as much as
1070
01:27:23.960 --> 01:27:28.880
it used to. And I liked
Biggie as a youngster, but I like
1071
01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:32.600
him more now, Like, I
just think his music withstood the test of
1072
01:27:32.640 --> 01:27:38.479
time a little bit better. That's
fair. I'm a POC guy, so
1073
01:27:39.920 --> 01:27:41.840
I grew up, Like I said, I grew up a POC guy.
1074
01:27:41.840 --> 01:27:45.159
I like, I love Tupac growing
up. I just for sure me too.
1075
01:27:45.399 --> 01:27:47.079
Yeah, I don't know that it
like, you know, sitting down
1076
01:27:47.079 --> 01:27:49.880
and listening to a Tupac album or
a Biggie album right now, I would
1077
01:27:49.880 --> 01:27:55.680
pick Biggie And that was the exact
opposite twenty years ago. Yeah, I
1078
01:27:55.960 --> 01:27:58.800
mean, I guess there's merit to
that. I'm a like I said,
1079
01:27:58.840 --> 01:28:02.800
I'm a pop guy, but I
do support Biggie. I think his his
1080
01:28:02.800 --> 01:28:08.760
his uh, his later stuff did
not age well as as much as the
1081
01:28:09.199 --> 01:28:12.359
original class. I agree with that, but I'd agree with that and maybe
1082
01:28:12.359 --> 01:28:15.560
with Biggie, like we really only
got two albums, sure, so his
1083
01:28:15.680 --> 01:28:20.560
younger stuff was all the stuff we
got yeah, no doubt. Yeah,
1084
01:28:20.800 --> 01:28:25.119
but hey, listen, on the
on the red front, I really feel
1085
01:28:25.159 --> 01:28:30.479
like that people outside, uh outside
the city are just not giving this team
1086
01:28:30.600 --> 01:28:38.720
enough enough of a look based on
the the lack of you know, landing
1087
01:28:38.720 --> 01:28:42.079
a big, big name pitcher in
the off season. You know, I
1088
01:28:42.159 --> 01:28:46.239
just don't feel like Frankie Frankie Montas
really moved the needle for anybody on a
1089
01:28:46.319 --> 01:28:51.800
national level. So but you know, I think I do think that,
1090
01:28:53.119 --> 01:28:57.039
uh that those of us that follow
the team on a regular basis and watching
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01:28:57.119 --> 01:29:00.840
all that, I really feel like
know what this team that's capable of.
1092
01:29:00.920 --> 01:29:03.800
And I think it feel like if
the offense, you know, holds their
1093
01:29:03.880 --> 01:29:08.039
endo, the deal and the starting
pitching, that we've been in good shape,
1094
01:29:08.199 --> 01:29:11.199
you know, in the butt of
August, I think they went ten
1095
01:29:11.239 --> 01:29:15.119
and seventeen or something like that,
and they just they just like you said,
1096
01:29:15.199 --> 01:29:17.760
ran out of gas. They couldn't
hit. But I feel like because
1097
01:29:17.760 --> 01:29:20.399
of that, based on that experience, I think this team's all going to
1098
01:29:20.399 --> 01:29:26.119
be all the better for it.
I agree. Are you comfortable with where
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01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:30.079
they're at in the outfield? You
know what I am. I heard your
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01:29:30.119 --> 01:29:35.800
segment earlier on about you know,
Frehley. I think with you know,
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01:29:36.439 --> 01:29:41.920
if you consider what all Freedol did
last year, and with you know,
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01:29:42.319 --> 01:29:45.520
you combine him with Frehley, and
I really do feel like there's enough there
1103
01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:48.199
now. They're not going to you
know, I don't think they're going to
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01:29:48.359 --> 01:29:51.720
bash a bunch of runs or home
runs, but I think they'll do what
1105
01:29:51.760 --> 01:29:58.000
they can to, especially in Friedel's
case, to get runners on and move
1106
01:29:58.039 --> 01:30:00.479
them over and get them in.
Yeah. I'm I mean, look,
1107
01:30:00.399 --> 01:30:03.439
I am I like TJ. Friedel. I think he is. He is
1108
01:30:03.720 --> 01:30:09.720
a solid center fielder, and if
you look at his numbers, he had
1109
01:30:09.760 --> 01:30:12.520
five hundred at bats for under eighty
eight at bats, he had two seventy
1110
01:30:12.600 --> 01:30:16.560
nine on base percentage, three fifty
two ops eight nineteen Like you will take
1111
01:30:16.600 --> 01:30:24.119
those from your center fielder pretty much
all day. I worry that there's nothing
1112
01:30:24.159 --> 01:30:28.680
behind him in center. I'm not
a Stewart fairchild guy, I think my
1113
01:30:30.159 --> 01:30:33.960
go ahead. No, I'm just
gonna say I'm not a fairchild guy either.
1114
01:30:34.199 --> 01:30:42.359
I don't think that's the answer.
So I think my concern would be,
1115
01:30:42.760 --> 01:30:46.840
uh would be a lot less if
we find out Will Benson is a
1116
01:30:46.840 --> 01:30:50.920
guy that can hit right. He's
in lefties because I'm comfortable with Spencer Steer
1117
01:30:51.039 --> 01:30:56.600
in left field. I think he
is going to be a very very very
1118
01:30:56.640 --> 01:31:01.239
good corner outfielder for the Reds.
If if if Benson becomes an everyday guy,
1119
01:31:02.039 --> 01:31:05.479
I can live with freedom and center
because I think you've got your cornerstone
1120
01:31:05.520 --> 01:31:10.439
pieces, you know, and left
and right. But if Benson is just
1121
01:31:10.479 --> 01:31:15.159
a platoon guy, then I'm not
as high on this outfield. I would
1122
01:31:15.199 --> 01:31:17.840
agree with that. I do think
regardless even if Benson truth to be the
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01:31:17.880 --> 01:31:21.039
guy, I think we need some
more depth out there for sure. Absolutely.
1124
01:31:21.199 --> 01:31:28.039
I mean lot why the national media
is not looking to us as contenders.
1125
01:31:28.239 --> 01:31:30.760
So, I mean when you look
like, what do you look at
1126
01:31:30.800 --> 01:31:33.920
generally you look at corner outfield,
corner infield, what's their power going to
1127
01:31:33.960 --> 01:31:38.239
be? Like first and third,
right and left, like those are your
1128
01:31:38.319 --> 01:31:42.159
power spots in baseball? And I
think they look at the Reds right now
1129
01:31:42.199 --> 01:31:45.760
and they say, I don't know
that that's a team that's really gonna like
1130
01:31:45.039 --> 01:31:50.840
like a hit at a at a
a you know, top ten in baseball
1131
01:31:50.960 --> 01:31:55.239
level. And then their pitching is
so young. Is they're pitching going to
1132
01:31:55.279 --> 01:31:58.920
make up for kind of their lack
of hitting. You know, I think
1133
01:31:58.960 --> 01:32:01.439
you're you're As we start to do
this thing over this week and look at
1134
01:32:01.439 --> 01:32:05.359
the different spots, I think you're
starting to see that maybe they're just a
1135
01:32:05.399 --> 01:32:11.800
little bit, a little bit south
of what people would expect from a team
1136
01:32:11.840 --> 01:32:16.880
that's considered a world series like like
you know, threat or or something along.
1137
01:32:17.920 --> 01:32:20.960
I want to better worry about God, No, I totally agree with
1138
01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:25.760
you. I think that, you
know, hopefully this team is in contention
1139
01:32:25.960 --> 01:32:30.119
come uh, you know, come
the deadline, and by the end of
1140
01:32:30.159 --> 01:32:34.000
July beginning August, we're talking about
the pieces that they spent money on or
1141
01:32:34.039 --> 01:32:39.479
traded guys that you know, they're
surplus of guys and we finally get that
1142
01:32:39.479 --> 01:32:42.840
that final piece that we really need
to put us over the hub. Yeah.
1143
01:32:42.920 --> 01:32:45.880
And the other thing sorry, corner
out theater. Yeah, the other
1144
01:32:45.920 --> 01:32:49.000
thing that I always go back to. And then this kind of this article
1145
01:32:49.039 --> 01:32:55.920
from Paul Dayner Junior kind of changed
my view on professional sports. It was
1146
01:32:56.000 --> 01:33:00.680
it was before they got before the
Bengals got Joe Burrow, and everybody was
1147
01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:03.159
trying to you know, is that
offseason portion where everybody's trying to get themselves
1148
01:33:03.199 --> 01:33:06.439
hyped up that they're going to be
better, and Paul wrote an article saying,
1149
01:33:06.479 --> 01:33:11.319
go down the roster and find me
a position where they have a player
1150
01:33:11.359 --> 01:33:15.960
that is in the top ten of
the league in their position group. And
1151
01:33:15.000 --> 01:33:17.800
at that point in time, I
mean, maybe Joe Mixon was there,
1152
01:33:18.119 --> 01:33:21.520
but there was nobody on that Bengals
roster that was in the top ten of
1153
01:33:21.600 --> 01:33:26.680
their position group in the NFL.
And if you don't have any of those
1154
01:33:26.680 --> 01:33:30.039
guys, none of your guys are
top ten in the league. Boy,
1155
01:33:30.239 --> 01:33:34.640
you're not going to win a whole
lot. And I think it's absolutely I
1156
01:33:34.640 --> 01:33:38.800
think it's fair to ask for this
red state. Here's where it's unfair.
1157
01:33:39.479 --> 01:33:43.159
They haven't a lot of these guys
haven't been around long enough for us to
1158
01:33:43.239 --> 01:33:46.279
know if they're top ten. But
right now I don't think they are.
1159
01:33:48.600 --> 01:33:50.720
No, I would agree with that. I think this year, though,
1160
01:33:50.880 --> 01:33:56.159
this could be the year that we
get some guys that we know for sure
1161
01:33:56.159 --> 01:33:59.720
are in the top ten in their
position and then the media starts taking notice
1162
01:33:59.760 --> 01:34:01.319
of it. Right, I think
that's I think we're on the same page.
1163
01:34:02.239 --> 01:34:04.439
Absolutely. Well, thanks for taking
my call, Chat. I appreciate
1164
01:34:04.439 --> 01:34:11.560
it. Appreciate it. Nick.
Thanks man. There you go. Maybe
1165
01:34:11.600 --> 01:34:14.119
we'll talk that out in the next
second. Let's take a break more after
1166
01:34:14.159 --> 01:34:30.039
this since nat He's ESPN fifteen thirty
both the bodcast Chess Waking Up in the
1167
01:34:30.079 --> 01:34:36.399
Morning, gotta thank God, I
don't know, but rolling on once again
1168
01:34:36.439 --> 01:34:42.840
thanks to UH to smoke Justice for
lunch today, I got my bone.
1169
01:34:42.920 --> 01:34:47.800
But the Bonded Spirit Bluegrass Festival twenty
twenty four taking place Saturday, March second,
1170
01:34:47.880 --> 01:34:53.560
five to ten, three h two
Court Street, Covington, four one
1171
01:34:53.560 --> 01:35:01.920
oh one one, the Goodwin Brothers, sister Sadie Moonshine Drive all in action.
1172
01:35:05.760 --> 01:35:13.199
So get down there and you can
get your tickets and take in a
1173
01:35:13.279 --> 01:35:21.399
great event with the Bonded Spirit Bluegrass
Festival. Getting back to some of what
1174
01:35:21.439 --> 01:35:30.800
we were just talking about with Nick
tearing you and play along. Who who
1175
01:35:30.840 --> 01:35:35.199
in the starting rotation can become one
of the top starting pitchers in baseball?
1176
01:35:35.720 --> 01:35:41.119
And I think that's just Hunter Green, right, I think there's some other
1177
01:35:41.199 --> 01:35:45.039
guys that could that could be pretty
good. I don't know that any of
1178
01:35:45.079 --> 01:35:50.399
them could could. And maybe with
starting pitching, because there's five of them
1179
01:35:50.439 --> 01:35:54.680
and there's thirty two teen, like
maybe you have to expand that out to
1180
01:35:54.720 --> 01:36:00.319
like a top ten or fifteen,
twenty, whatever it is. But I
1181
01:36:00.319 --> 01:36:03.479
think Hunter Green is the one guy
that like could really pop all the way
1182
01:36:03.520 --> 01:36:06.279
up to the top of that list, don't you. I mean, that's
1183
01:36:06.279 --> 01:36:10.359
what we're expecting us why he got
paid the big contract early, right,
1184
01:36:11.800 --> 01:36:15.239
Lodolo, I just don't trust with
the injury history. I think Ashcraft and
1185
01:36:15.279 --> 01:36:18.840
Abbott can be really good two or
three type starters. I don't see either
1186
01:36:19.039 --> 01:36:26.039
yet as an ace. Maybe they
surprised me a little bit this year Bullpen.
1187
01:36:26.199 --> 01:36:28.439
I think Diaz, you can put
him right up there with one of
1188
01:36:28.479 --> 01:36:31.359
the best amongst the best closers in
baseball if he ran out of gas a
1189
01:36:31.359 --> 01:36:34.000
little bit at the end of last
year. But if I had to say,
1190
01:36:34.039 --> 01:36:36.960
is there anybody on this roster that's
top ten in Major League Baseball at
1191
01:36:36.960 --> 01:36:41.760
their position? Alexis DS would probably
be it right now, wouldn't he.
1192
01:36:44.600 --> 01:36:49.319
Yeah, I think so. Tyler
Stevenson, I don't think he's a top
1193
01:36:49.359 --> 01:36:53.199
ten catcher. I don't think he's
had the consistency. He's dealt with too
1194
01:36:53.239 --> 01:36:58.600
many injuries. I think he has
the potential to be there, and he's
1195
01:36:58.680 --> 01:37:05.399
what he's twenty twenty seven gonna be
twenty eight older than I thought. That's
1196
01:37:05.439 --> 01:37:11.920
a tough position. First base.
Could Christian and Karnasia and Strand become one
1197
01:37:11.960 --> 01:37:15.760
of the ten best first basemen in
baseball? I would say, yes,
1198
01:37:15.479 --> 01:37:19.560
it's twenty five still, you know, learning on the major league level.
1199
01:37:19.840 --> 01:37:23.319
I don't think he's there yet,
but I would say he could get there.
1200
01:37:23.399 --> 01:37:26.840
Maybe not maybe not one of the
elite first basemen, but top ten.
1201
01:37:26.880 --> 01:37:32.159
I don't think is out of the
equation, do you tbt? Yeah,
1202
01:37:33.199 --> 01:37:36.279
obviously he's not there yet, so
anybody. None of these guys are
1203
01:37:36.279 --> 01:37:43.239
there yet except for maybe Diaz India. I mean, you know, I
1204
01:37:43.239 --> 01:37:45.960
would have to see a huge leap
this year for your meet too. Sure,
1205
01:37:46.159 --> 01:37:49.960
India won the Rookie of the Year, but has had two mostly disappointing
1206
01:37:49.960 --> 01:37:54.720
seasons, you know, kind of
riddled with injury since then. And Matt
1207
01:37:54.800 --> 01:37:58.199
McLain is the better prospect a second
base. I think Matt McLain will be
1208
01:37:59.119 --> 01:38:04.239
a top ten second basement in Major
league baseball. Maybe I'm higher on Matt
1209
01:38:04.279 --> 01:38:13.359
McLean the most. I don't know. Third base. I think Noelvie Marte
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01:38:13.479 --> 01:38:16.439
potentially has that, but he's got
a long way to go before he's anybody
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01:38:16.479 --> 01:38:25.439
considers him a top ten third baseman
in Major League Baseball, Ellie Sure.
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01:38:26.640 --> 01:38:30.439
As long as he cuts down on
strikeouts and does a better job making contact,
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01:38:30.960 --> 01:38:33.880
I think he will be a top
ten potentially a top five shortstop.
1214
01:38:34.319 --> 01:38:40.039
But if he continues striking out as
much as he does and he can't put
1215
01:38:40.039 --> 01:38:45.880
the ball in play, his speed
is useless on offense. So he has
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01:38:45.880 --> 01:38:54.079
a ways to go. Left field, I think it's a an outside stretch
1217
01:38:54.119 --> 01:38:59.640
that Spencer Steeer could become a top
ten left fielder, But I think he's
1218
01:38:59.680 --> 01:39:06.399
going to be really really good there
centerfield freedomll know right field Benson if he
1219
01:39:06.439 --> 01:39:10.439
can hit lefties. If he can
hit lefties, I think he can become
1220
01:39:10.479 --> 01:39:13.319
a top right fielder in the game. But ultimately, Taren, what that
1221
01:39:13.359 --> 01:39:15.039
comes down to is, we just
went through the whole roster and we only
1222
01:39:15.039 --> 01:39:19.479
found one guy that we think at
the moment would have an argument for top
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01:39:19.520 --> 01:39:24.319
ten at his position in Major League
Baseball. And if you don't have any
1224
01:39:24.359 --> 01:39:30.239
of those guys, you're not going
to get many people to believe that you're
1225
01:39:30.279 --> 01:39:36.720
at the top of the sport,
that you're a World Series contender. You
1226
01:39:36.800 --> 01:39:42.600
know, you go to the Cardinals. Automatically, Aeronatto is one of the
1227
01:39:42.600 --> 01:39:47.520
top third basemen in baseball. If
not the best, you go to the
1228
01:39:47.560 --> 01:39:51.760
Cubs Ballinger one of the best at
his position in baseball. If not the
1229
01:39:51.800 --> 01:39:58.880
best, the Brewers kind of sold
on their guys that they had that were
1230
01:39:58.880 --> 01:40:03.159
in those positions. Is Yali still
there? Is he gone? I don't
1231
01:40:03.199 --> 01:40:13.079
remember. But that's why you're seeing
other teams get credit for something that Cincinnati
1232
01:40:13.159 --> 01:40:15.800
is not still there. Okay,
I don't think he's top ten anymore,
1233
01:40:16.920 --> 01:40:20.520
but he was at one point for
sure. It might was arguably one of
1234
01:40:20.560 --> 01:40:26.920
the best two or three players in
baseball for a two year stretch. But
1235
01:40:26.960 --> 01:40:30.720
the Reds have not developed that yet. And part of that is because they're
1236
01:40:30.760 --> 01:40:34.279
so young and those guys haven't had
a chance to prove it. But if
1237
01:40:34.279 --> 01:40:38.439
you're wondering why people look at it
and say I don't know about the Reds,
1238
01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:43.680
there you go. Now you know, and you know what they say,
1239
01:40:43.760 --> 01:40:49.880
Tarren, knowing's half the battle.
Just take a break, stuck some
1240
01:40:49.920 --> 01:40:53.119
Bengals when we come back. Phone
lines are open. Five to one,
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01:40:53.199 --> 01:40:57.680
three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati
1242
01:40:57.760 --> 01:41:18.439
Sports station Cincinnati's see this still sounds
phenomenal. I like, yeah, I
1243
01:41:18.439 --> 01:41:21.199
don't know aught of Diddy allegation.
Yeah, are we not allowed to Are
1244
01:41:21.239 --> 01:41:28.359
we not allowed to listen to Diddy
anymore? Not looking good? No,
1245
01:41:28.439 --> 01:41:31.880
it's not looking good, looking real
bad. Actually, I mean at least
1246
01:41:31.920 --> 01:41:35.000
this is big, Like we're not
allowed to listen to like more money,
1247
01:41:35.000 --> 01:41:42.640
more problems, no more. I
don't think it's out. That's r Kelly,
1248
01:41:42.840 --> 01:41:49.760
that's relaxed. Alka back, that's
not easy. SBN fifteen thirty,
1249
01:41:49.840 --> 01:41:57.319
Jaed Brendall and Primo Eger will be
back on Tuesday. I think Jason Williams,
1250
01:41:58.319 --> 01:42:02.399
not Justin Williams, Jason Williams from
the Inquirers and on Monday, because
1251
01:42:02.399 --> 01:42:09.199
I will be at since nighty spring
practice watching the bear Cats start their journey
1252
01:42:10.199 --> 01:42:16.600
for the twenty twenty four season,
and I will be learning names of numbers.
1253
01:42:17.840 --> 01:42:21.520
It's crazy, Terran, like it
really is, like it I can't
1254
01:42:21.560 --> 01:42:27.600
express how different like last year,
you know, for the longest time,
1255
01:42:27.640 --> 01:42:30.079
like, yeah, there's a couple
guys you got to learn and it takes
1256
01:42:30.119 --> 01:42:32.800
you maybe an hour to kind of
get up to speed because you already know,
1257
01:42:32.960 --> 01:42:35.840
like this guy's stepping in at that
spot. This guy's stepping in at
1258
01:42:35.880 --> 01:42:43.119
that spot. Like you have a
pretty good idea before the first practice of
1259
01:42:43.119 --> 01:42:46.640
what you're going to be watching.
I have no clue what to expect on
1260
01:42:46.720 --> 01:42:53.439
Monday. I got a decent idea. Who's going to be a quarterback.
1261
01:42:53.439 --> 01:42:56.880
I know what the offensive line looks
like. Corey Kiner is going to be
1262
01:42:56.880 --> 01:43:01.359
at running back, Xavier Henderson's going
to be at wide receiver, Dante Corleone's
1263
01:43:01.399 --> 01:43:05.359
going to be in the nose.
Other than that, I ain't got much.
1264
01:43:05.399 --> 01:43:10.359
Man, how crazy that is for
somebody that this is what I do
1265
01:43:10.520 --> 01:43:15.800
for a living, that that's how
much change we see in college sports year
1266
01:43:15.840 --> 01:43:20.960
over year. Now that it's going
to take me two days to get names
1267
01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:33.359
and numbers and and everything figured out, it's wild. I think for a
1268
01:43:33.399 --> 01:43:39.239
while, Taran there was there's a
guy they had a defensive back. He
1269
01:43:39.319 --> 01:43:44.600
was number thirty one. I won't
say his name, but he I think
1270
01:43:44.600 --> 01:43:47.399
he transferred. And then the next
year somebody came in that was a walk
1271
01:43:47.439 --> 01:43:50.760
on that had his number and looked
just like him. So we just called
1272
01:43:50.800 --> 01:43:55.800
him. Not that guy's name,
there's that Oh, that's not so and
1273
01:43:55.840 --> 01:44:08.039
so let's talk a little Bengals as
we wind things down. As Paul Dayner
1274
01:44:08.399 --> 01:44:14.079
today put out an article about the
Bengals in the right tackle position, and
1275
01:44:14.239 --> 01:44:20.960
we talked to James Rapine earlier about
this. Today, this is since Joe
1276
01:44:21.000 --> 01:44:28.520
Burrow came into the league. Twenty
twenty, Bobby Hart was your starting right
1277
01:44:28.520 --> 01:44:31.399
tackle. Twenty twenty one, Riley
Reef was your starting right tackle, twenty
1278
01:44:31.439 --> 01:44:34.520
twenty two, Lyle Collins was your
starting right tackle, and in twenty twenty
1279
01:44:34.520 --> 01:44:45.359
three Jonah Williams. So there has
been no continuity at right tackle. There
1280
01:44:45.439 --> 01:44:53.680
has been no we drafted and we're
going to develop this guy, or we
1281
01:44:53.720 --> 01:44:56.760
went out and signed. You know, I think Riley Reef they had hoped
1282
01:44:56.800 --> 01:44:59.920
would be here more than one year, but he got hurt and they had
1283
01:45:00.039 --> 01:45:01.760
a deal that was easy to get
out of. Collins got hurt and there
1284
01:45:01.760 --> 01:45:05.279
was a deal that was easy to
get out of. Jodah Williams was in
1285
01:45:05.359 --> 01:45:14.680
his last year. But if you're
gonna can, if you're gonna expect this
1286
01:45:14.760 --> 01:45:16.399
team to win a Super Bowl,
you're not going to be able to be
1287
01:45:17.680 --> 01:45:25.800
devoid of a presence at right tackle. And the main reason being it used
1288
01:45:25.800 --> 01:45:29.079
to be in the NFL, like
the teams had one edged rusher right the
1289
01:45:29.239 --> 01:45:35.000
one guy he lined up against your
left tackle and was asked to impact the
1290
01:45:35.159 --> 01:45:41.520
blind side of your quarterback. Now
you know what NFL teams do. They
1291
01:45:41.560 --> 01:45:49.520
want two of those dudes, and
oftentimes strategy dictates that you're flexible, and
1292
01:45:49.560 --> 01:45:54.039
you know what flexible means in the
NFL. We're gonna take that guy that
1293
01:45:54.159 --> 01:45:57.760
was going up against your left tackle
to a stalemate and we're gonna put him
1294
01:45:57.760 --> 01:46:02.399
against your right tackle that's not as
good blocking edge rushers, and then our
1295
01:46:02.520 --> 01:46:09.720
edge rusher is going to come at
your quarterback from the other side because your
1296
01:46:09.760 --> 01:46:12.520
right tackle's not as good as your
left tackle, and it only made sense
1297
01:46:14.199 --> 01:46:21.560
for us to attack your weakness was
our strength. Where do you think TJ.
1298
01:46:21.720 --> 01:46:31.840
Watt comes off of the edge mostly
right side right tackle? How about
1299
01:46:31.840 --> 01:46:41.800
Cleveland right tackle that they come at
you. Baltimore has like six guys.
1300
01:46:42.159 --> 01:46:44.600
They come at you at the right
hand, left and up the middle,
1301
01:46:47.760 --> 01:46:55.239
So it's an important spot. The
mcai beck and stuff is interesting. Mike
1302
01:46:55.399 --> 01:47:02.560
Nwayou from New England, Trent Brown
from New England, and I think that's
1303
01:47:02.680 --> 01:47:06.239
kind of the way you have to
go if you have any intention of fixing
1304
01:47:06.279 --> 01:47:11.840
this thing long term, is you
have to draft to tackle pretty early.
1305
01:47:14.640 --> 01:47:16.520
First round. If it falls to
you the right way and you can get
1306
01:47:16.560 --> 01:47:20.000
your guy, absolutely you have to
do it. But at least by the
1307
01:47:20.039 --> 01:47:24.039
second round I think you know,
you have to find a guy that can
1308
01:47:24.039 --> 01:47:29.079
play right tackle going forward, and
then you have to find a guy that
1309
01:47:29.159 --> 01:47:35.319
gives him a bridge. This year, I know that becomes a little bit
1310
01:47:35.399 --> 01:47:41.079
dangerous because now you're essentially asking your
rookie to be the swing tackle. If
1311
01:47:41.119 --> 01:47:47.640
anything happens on either side, that
rookie is thrown into action. But constantly
1312
01:47:49.119 --> 01:47:59.520
just putting a band aid on it
isn't the answer at that spot. This
1313
01:47:59.600 --> 01:48:02.800
is no So I'm not saying anything
that that people that watch it the NFL
1314
01:48:03.159 --> 01:48:11.960
don't know. It is a pass
rush cornerback league. Defensively, get after
1315
01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:18.800
the quarterback and defend down the field. And the Bengals were the worst in
1316
01:48:18.840 --> 01:48:27.159
the league at giving up big plays. Nobody was worse when it came to
1317
01:48:27.239 --> 01:48:30.640
splash plays than the Bengals. Is
some of that because the secondary was poor,
1318
01:48:31.039 --> 01:48:40.640
You bet you damn right it was. Is some of that because the
1319
01:48:40.720 --> 01:48:45.199
only guy you had that effectively impacted
the quarterback? Was Trey Hendrickson? Yes,
1320
01:48:47.640 --> 01:48:56.000
yes, yes, yes, a
thousand times yes, that was your
1321
01:48:56.039 --> 01:49:00.279
only option to get after the quarterback. Now you hope Miles Murphy is better
1322
01:49:00.279 --> 01:49:06.359
this year? Uh? Is Joseph
STI still in witness protection? Taran?
1323
01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:15.760
What Willy used to say down down
the hall about U. C. A
1324
01:49:15.840 --> 01:49:17.920
D. Mike Thomas. You couldn't
find that guy with a search warrant.
1325
01:49:25.159 --> 01:49:30.640
So their path at right Tackle.
I don't think it's being talked about enough.
1326
01:49:33.279 --> 01:49:39.239
Everybody's talking about Joe, everybody's talking
about t everybody's talking about Joe Mixon
1327
01:49:40.840 --> 01:49:46.000
rightfully. So those are big storylines. But man, they've got to get
1328
01:49:46.039 --> 01:49:49.680
to a point where there is in
you know, guess what is going to
1329
01:49:49.720 --> 01:49:56.960
happen here real soon, Tarren.
The interior line is gonna come up and
1330
01:49:57.000 --> 01:50:00.279
you're gonna have to make difficult decisions
on are you keeping these guys they go
1331
01:50:00.359 --> 01:50:08.560
into their thirties, Kapa and Keras. Those are going to be monumental decisions,
1332
01:50:09.880 --> 01:50:14.119
and if you lose one or both, you better have right tackle fixed
1333
01:50:14.159 --> 01:50:17.920
by that point so that you have
the stability to go out and try to
1334
01:50:17.960 --> 01:50:24.000
find another plug and play guy.
But if you're still searching at right tackle
1335
01:50:24.039 --> 01:50:30.960
and now you're searching at garden Center, you're flirting with disaster to have Joe
1336
01:50:30.039 --> 01:50:43.640
killed again on a regular basis.
So this offseason is critical. I I
1337
01:50:43.800 --> 01:50:49.680
agree with James a lot of what
Paul was saying in his article. You've
1338
01:50:49.720 --> 01:50:54.520
got to find a veteran that can
plug and play, and then you have
1339
01:50:54.600 --> 01:51:03.600
to find the future in the draft. Let's take a break more after this.
1340
01:51:04.199 --> 01:51:18.199
Cincinnati's espnenterteinher no appointment is and nothing
but against them. I'm thinking the
1341
01:51:18.239 --> 01:51:28.640
perfect picture Parmisole season. My secret
with Death and Doublow Pulse because they got
1342
01:51:28.720 --> 01:51:33.960
me. The edited versions always messed
me up on my mind is at the
1343
01:51:34.000 --> 01:51:36.840
same time, I would like to
keep my job. No no no no
1344
01:51:36.840 --> 01:51:40.319
no no no no no no no
no no. I'm just saying when I'm
1345
01:51:40.399 --> 01:51:45.680
when I'm quietly wrapping behind this microphone
underneath my breath, and then it's it
1346
01:51:45.760 --> 01:51:49.800
gets to a bad word, and
my my brain says the bad word,
1347
01:51:50.000 --> 01:51:56.119
but the lyrics say another word.
Like when it's edited, it doesn't mess
1348
01:51:56.159 --> 01:52:00.720
me up because it's like it's still
there. But when they sail whole different
1349
01:52:00.760 --> 01:52:05.439
word, my brain stops. It
just is like er like, it keeps
1350
01:52:05.439 --> 01:52:12.000
the lost art. It's like when
you like when you probably are old enough
1351
01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:15.560
to understand this reference, but it's
like when you were on AOL dial up
1352
01:52:15.640 --> 01:52:20.439
and then your parents picked up the
phone and it just crashed and all of
1353
01:52:20.479 --> 01:52:25.279
a sudden you were just off the
internet through no fault of your own.
1354
01:52:27.000 --> 01:52:32.960
You were on aim Messenger, trying
to trying to never mind, never mind
1355
01:52:33.880 --> 01:52:39.279
tarn what what what? What are
your thoughts? Uh? We got We're
1356
01:52:39.279 --> 01:52:41.920
just gonna have some fun in this
last segment. We got a while to
1357
01:52:41.960 --> 01:52:44.359
fill in this segment too, don't
We got like ten minutes? No,
1358
01:52:44.359 --> 01:52:45.960
no, no, no, we
got about six minutes. Oh okay,
1359
01:52:46.319 --> 01:52:55.720
that's not paded surge pricing at fast
food restaurants. We are so explaining this
1360
01:52:55.840 --> 01:52:57.920
to me, What what the hell
is it? So do you know,
1361
01:52:58.079 --> 01:53:01.560
do you do uber or anything?
No? Okay, like uber, Like
1362
01:53:01.600 --> 01:53:06.279
if you want to go out on
a Friday night, they charge you more
1363
01:53:08.159 --> 01:53:12.399
to go out on a Friday night
than they would like a Wednesday afternoon serge
1364
01:53:12.439 --> 01:53:17.079
pricing the busiest times they charge more. Okay, So if you like this
1365
01:53:17.159 --> 01:53:23.760
is Wendy's is discussing this Uh,
it would start potentially as soon as twenty
1366
01:53:23.800 --> 01:53:27.760
twenty five. And if you were
going to get lunch at Wendy's and that
1367
01:53:27.840 --> 01:53:32.800
Wendy's is busy, they will charge
you more to eat there at that time.
1368
01:53:34.920 --> 01:53:39.439
So like, if it's gonna be
eight dollars for your value meal,
1369
01:53:39.800 --> 01:53:42.520
and we know that's cheap, Like
you can't get a value meal for eight
1370
01:53:42.560 --> 01:53:49.199
dollars anymore, greedy bastards. It
might be ten dollars to get your value
1371
01:53:49.239 --> 01:53:57.279
meal because you went at a time
like your lunch break, They're going to
1372
01:53:57.359 --> 01:54:02.960
price scouge you on your lunch break. Look, man, I don't eat
1373
01:54:02.960 --> 01:54:05.039
it. I know it doesn't look
like it. I don't eat a ton
1374
01:54:05.079 --> 01:54:09.319
of fast food. It looks like
I eat all the fast food. I
1375
01:54:09.319 --> 01:54:14.319
don't eat a ton of fast food. And a lot of the reason is
1376
01:54:14.359 --> 01:54:21.840
anymore, you have to justify to
yourself. If I go get McDonald's,
1377
01:54:21.880 --> 01:54:26.840
if my daughter wants McDonald's and I
go get McDonald's and the two of us
1378
01:54:27.319 --> 01:54:31.079
get a you know, a burger
and fries and a drink, it's like
1379
01:54:31.199 --> 01:54:38.600
twenty three dollars. And now Wendy's
is gonna be like, oh, we're
1380
01:54:38.640 --> 01:54:41.960
going we're not charge Actually we're not
charging enough. We're not price gouging you
1381
01:54:42.079 --> 01:54:46.840
enough. We're now going to price
gouge you more because we're busy. What
1382
01:54:46.840 --> 01:54:50.760
are we doing, Darren f Off? I just want to go, you
1383
01:54:50.800 --> 01:54:55.119
know what? You know what's becoming
crazy as you can go? Just find
1384
01:54:55.119 --> 01:54:58.199
a mom and pop place. I
can feed me and my daughter for twenty
1385
01:54:58.199 --> 01:55:01.359
bucks and it's the same price.
Is going to make you get The food
1386
01:55:01.399 --> 01:55:08.319
is twice as good, twice as
good, if not way more than twice
1387
01:55:08.319 --> 01:55:15.600
as good, good portions. You
get more of it, and you don't
1388
01:55:15.640 --> 01:55:20.600
feel gross like you do after you
eat McDonald's or Wendy's or whatever. I
1389
01:55:20.640 --> 01:55:26.840
saw a Chipotle thing the other day
on social media tarn where the guy ordered
1390
01:55:26.920 --> 01:55:31.159
Chipotle on his phone in his car
and then walked in and ordered Chipotle,
1391
01:55:33.039 --> 01:55:40.079
paid for the takeout, then stood
there for forty five minutes while he waited
1392
01:55:40.119 --> 01:55:43.880
for his online order, took it
home. Put it on a scale.
1393
01:55:44.960 --> 01:55:49.800
The Chipotle he waited in line for
was twice as much, twice as heavy
1394
01:55:50.760 --> 01:56:00.680
as the Chipotle he got on the
app, same price, actually more more
1395
01:56:00.840 --> 01:56:05.199
for the online order, so you
paid more and got half the food.
1396
01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:12.199
I know this is a sports talk
show, but this is Peter Griffin.
1397
01:56:12.239 --> 01:56:15.119
You know what grinds my gears?
Like this guy. The fast where we're
1398
01:56:15.119 --> 01:56:19.479
at with that stuff is unbelievable.
It's like they're begging you not to eat
1399
01:56:19.520 --> 01:56:25.640
there anymore. They're telling you,
don't make us go out of business.
1400
01:56:29.880 --> 01:56:35.239
Like six dollars for a crappy cheeseburger. What are we doing? Yeah,
1401
01:56:35.239 --> 01:56:38.720
I cried the other day I went
to Wendy to see the price of a
1402
01:56:38.800 --> 01:56:44.399
Junior Baking cheeseburger. Now, was
it like two dollars? Ye? Yeh,
1403
01:56:44.520 --> 01:56:49.199
three dollars, I cried. You
used to get two of it on
1404
01:56:49.279 --> 01:56:56.680
babies, two dollars. The only
thing I really ever get at Wendy's now
1405
01:56:56.800 --> 01:57:00.359
is the biggie bag five bucks.
You get junior bacon. I thought we
1406
01:57:00.359 --> 01:57:01.640
could afford. Yeah, you get
a junior bacon, you get a four
1407
01:57:01.680 --> 01:57:05.960
piece, and you get fries in
the drink for five bucks. Anything other
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01:57:06.000 --> 01:57:11.880
than that, like I used to
love like a day's double. Now they're
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01:57:11.880 --> 01:57:15.199
gonna tcharge like the biggie bag thing's
not gonna last. No, they're gonna
1410
01:57:15.239 --> 01:57:18.720
take that away soon. If the
junior bacon's three dollars Why the hell are
1411
01:57:18.720 --> 01:57:23.760
you buying the junior bacon if you
get nuggets fries in the drink for two
1412
01:57:23.800 --> 01:57:33.840
extra dollars. AnyWho, I had
to rank it bothers me that this is
1413
01:57:33.920 --> 01:57:41.920
like, what are we doing?
Anyhow? Did you see the NFL news
1414
01:57:42.439 --> 01:57:45.880
that's coming came out a little bit
ago? I didn't that the end of
1415
01:57:45.920 --> 01:57:50.720
the chain gang. The NFL tested
optical tracking in two stadiums and the Super
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01:57:50.760 --> 01:57:58.159
Bowl last season for line to gain
rulings. League officials said today technology isn't
1417
01:57:58.159 --> 01:58:00.479
expected to be ready for twenty twenty
four would require a vote, but the
1418
01:58:00.520 --> 01:58:08.560
future is coming. Also, the
NFL continues to vet other technological advances,
1419
01:58:08.600 --> 01:58:12.760
including a reproace system with high res
cameras along the goal line, sideline and
1420
01:58:12.840 --> 01:58:18.640
inline, and a skele a track
system tracking the ball players and officials.
1421
01:58:20.000 --> 01:58:27.399
No, no, no, you
don't want you want ninety seven year old
1422
01:58:27.399 --> 01:58:32.880
men to determine first downs. Hey, that's that's what keep some of these
1423
01:58:32.880 --> 01:58:38.159
guys alive. It's what gets some
of these guys killed. That too,
1424
01:58:41.560 --> 01:58:45.680
No, man, Like, if
you watch tennis, do you watch tennis
1425
01:58:45.479 --> 01:58:51.720
occasionally? Do you see how precise
that ball tracking technology is? You don't
1426
01:58:51.720 --> 01:58:58.920
want that in the NFL. No, for real, No, why not
1427
01:58:59.680 --> 01:59:01.840
you I human error, Yes,
that's part of the part of the game.
1428
01:59:01.920 --> 01:59:06.880
Unfortunately there's well, no, it
doesn't have to be. It doesn't
1429
01:59:06.920 --> 01:59:11.000
have to be. We can look, I don't need my sports perfect,
1430
01:59:11.039 --> 01:59:14.720
all right, your sports aren't gonna
be perfect. Officials are still gonna make
1431
01:59:14.720 --> 01:59:17.720
plenty of bad calls. I would
just like to know the stuff, like
1432
01:59:18.119 --> 01:59:23.760
the stuff that they control, control
it. You know what they need to
1433
01:59:23.760 --> 01:59:27.800
do? Get younger in these three
play booths. Why the almost curse when
1434
01:59:27.840 --> 01:59:30.479
we got a seventy year old guys
head of officiating, I could tell you
1435
01:59:30.680 --> 01:59:34.520
if it's the catch, but you
wear the ball that thirty years old higher
1436
01:59:34.560 --> 01:59:38.359
younger, NFL, But you want
those seventy year old guys work in the
1437
01:59:38.399 --> 01:59:41.000
chain gang. I mean, if
they're going to offer me jobs, I'll
1438
01:59:41.039 --> 01:59:45.239
be gladly take it. Higher Younger
that that fix is your problem. I've
1439
01:59:45.239 --> 01:59:49.439
been saying that for like basketball,
we're asking these like sixty seventy year old
1440
01:59:49.479 --> 01:59:57.720
men to sprint up and down the
floor with twenty year olds. There's nothing
1441
01:59:57.720 --> 02:00:00.479
that angers me more Tarran than when
like there's a play under the basket,
1442
02:00:00.479 --> 02:00:04.199
there's an official right next to the
play. There's an official to the side
1443
02:00:04.239 --> 02:00:08.399
looking right at the play, and
the guy standing at half court, the
1444
02:00:08.439 --> 02:00:13.119
farthest guy away on the opposite side
of the floor, blows the whistle and
1445
02:00:13.159 --> 02:00:19.239
calls a foul when the other two
guys didn't call anything. Sir, your
1446
02:00:19.520 --> 02:00:25.880
eyesight is not that good. I
need I'm gonna need you to do an
1447
02:00:25.920 --> 02:00:31.800
ABC chart right now, sir.
I wonder about like basketball like a NBA
1448
02:00:32.159 --> 02:00:36.039
calls the basketball. I don't hire
like former players to retire like had a
1449
02:00:36.039 --> 02:00:43.680
big part of retirement plan. Yeah, officiate these games. I agree,
1450
02:00:43.960 --> 02:00:45.720
all right, that's gonna wrap it
up. One more day of me.
1451
02:00:45.840 --> 02:00:50.119
I know that makes some of you
extremely happy, But tomorrow is tomorrow.
1452
02:00:50.199 --> 02:00:56.319
Is it for me for the week
and uh the foreseeable future till mo has
1453
02:00:56.359 --> 02:01:00.920
stuff he wants to do. Say
next time. Since an E's ESPN thirteen
1454
02:01:00.960 --> 02:01:05.119
thirty Yo, I'm listening to a
sad girl fang saing about us. He
1455
02:01:05.279 --> 02:01:12.159
got no town thro t will beat
your posto. I just want my something
1456
02:01:12.319 --> 02:01:17.039
that you wrong when you're alone and
gets lidey. Don't act this if you
1457
02:01:17.119 --> 02:01:23.560
did not know she let me play
with her. I'm working late, I
1458
02:01:23.560 --> 02:01:27.920
said, I'll soon be home.
All about the girl was home home.
1459
02:01:28.720 --> 02:01:33.920
Let me tell you what you're crying
for. Why Because I'm flying, super
1460
02:01:33.960 --> 02:01:41.880
flying make I'm flying, you know, super fly, but me, I'm
1461
02:01:41.920 --> 02:01:45.520
super duper and I'm super duper fly
fly. This report is