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00:00:34.880Stuart Walker was like, you got it.
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00:00:37.359I was like, okay.
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00:00:42.479I was like, this is great.
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00:00:49.119I mean the street sweepers ain't gang, but I was just watching all the trucks leave and all that start to disappear.
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00:00:51.840I didn't go up there one time this year.
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00:00:54.560I played in a golf scramble with John Whitehead.
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00:00:59.759I was like, I didn't know you even golfed, John.
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00:01:06.959I thought we had I hadn't seen him in years, and it's like we never missed a beat.
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00:01:22.719The the funny part last night is uh so we have the airport truck now.
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00:01:28.400It's great to break streets with.
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00:01:32.879Well that's good.
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00:01:34.319When did y'all get that?
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00:01:36.400Uh a year or two ago.
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00:01:39.680Did it just stay out there at the airport?
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00:01:41.280It's out there at the airport.
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00:01:44.319It didn't even get a scratch on it from the tornado.
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00:01:45.120I don't know how.
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00:01:46.719Yeah, rich weight.
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00:01:50.480The three truck the three trucks that needed to get hit by something.
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00:01:54.000There was leaves stuck on the side of them.
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00:02:03.359The so we used to have a uh airport hanger near PHI's hangar.
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00:02:11.919But the trucks wasn't in it.
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00:02:18.080Rich apparently went and moved them or something.
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00:02:24.319So he had left the trucks that not.
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00:02:26.639Yeah, they didn't get a script.
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00:02:32.800But uh something needing to get totaling out didn't get it.
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00:02:43.199We have that old 1980s style fire truck that we always you can always hear it coming down the road with its Detroit motor.
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00:02:57.680That's awesome.
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00:02:59.280Yeah, they were all three sitting out.
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00:03:05.759Cody Evans and I walked over about 3 30 that morning and we're like, we need to check these trucks.
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00:03:08.479Yeah, they went there was leaves stuck on them.
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00:03:10.240That's awesome.
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00:03:10.639Yeah.
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00:03:13.439How much would an airport truck cost?
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00:03:18.400That's gotta be how a regular fire engine now is costing close to a million dollars.
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00:03:25.280Oh but you gotta wait about two years for it because they're in so much to make it.
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00:03:26.639Some of them are up to four years.
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00:03:35.840Hey, listen, speaking of, you know, million dollar trucks, we used the aerial the other day on a reconstruction to take pictures.
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00:03:38.400That was I was like, that is a good idea.
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00:03:42.719They brought the aerial truck and just Newport overheads.
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00:03:45.120I went to Academy Class with a Newport guy.
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00:03:46.479He's like, check this out.
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00:03:49.599And I was it was aerial shots, and I was like, Man, that's great.
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00:03:51.599And then he shows me this body.
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00:03:53.520I'm like, where's his head?
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00:03:56.159He said, That's that's what I was wanting to show you.
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00:04:06.800This turd got he was a really bad dope dealer, and he'd changing his tire on the side of the road, and Big Rig rolled him up in between the trailer tires.
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00:04:12.000His head was down his it was in his in his stomach.
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00:04:18.319I was like, he didn't show me that part.
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00:04:19.600I just sound like a rig up.
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00:04:22.879It was not a big goodness.
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00:04:24.480Not technically.
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00:04:25.920What would you call that?
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00:04:27.120Inversion.
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00:04:29.120I told you.
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00:04:35.600But I was like, you don't know how to say that.
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00:04:37.360Where's his head, man?
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00:04:39.199I was like, did y'all find his head?
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00:04:42.000Oh yeah, we found it finally when it went to the corner.
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00:04:46.800I had no idea.
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00:04:53.759I see I 75.
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00:04:56.000It doesn't end, does it?
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00:07:05.040Y'all ready?
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00:07:10.079When the notes are out like this, it makes me so happy.
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00:07:13.199Yes, we've done our homework.
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00:07:15.839That's awesome.
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00:07:17.199They've done more of much more work.
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00:07:18.639It's better when our guests are doing more work.
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00:07:20.959Noah's more well-versed on things than I am.
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00:07:24.720See he's got I think he's just a black cloud magnet.
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00:07:26.399I I can I can relate.
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00:07:30.560There's a reason I want the black cloud to work three years in a row with ambulance service.
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00:07:38.160So we got ambulance, we got fire, we got rescue, we got a plethora.
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00:07:40.160Law enforcement kinda.
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00:07:41.439That's the big word of the.
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00:07:42.800I guess that's what we do.
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00:07:46.319Well, I mean, we don't do it very well.
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00:07:51.439Who was I talking to?
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00:07:53.199Oh, I was talking to John the other day.
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00:07:54.079I said, John.
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00:08:01.040I was like when we were when I got promoted to sergeant, every three people came up.
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00:08:06.160I was like, man, John's gonna be your he's gonna just give you a part-time.
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00:08:10.399I was like, so I was like, hey John, let's go out and eat.
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00:08:14.879I took him to a Chinese restaurant or something.
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00:08:16.240We went and sat down and ate.
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00:08:23.759I said, listen, I know you didn't put in for this job, so I you can't say I got promoted over.
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00:08:24.639You didn't put in.
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00:08:28.800I said, but I know you're better than me at policing.
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00:08:29.360I know it.
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00:08:30.319You've got more time.
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00:08:34.639You're gonna you're you can find dope on any anywhere, anytime.
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00:08:36.799I said you're smarter than everybody at the PD.
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00:08:37.679I know it.
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00:08:39.360I said, just don't give me a hard time.
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00:08:40.720I'm gonna stay out of your way.
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00:08:42.000Just work with me, man.
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00:08:49.360He's like, he said, you're the only person that's ever came up and just had this conversation.
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00:08:51.440He said, I got you, buddy.
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00:08:54.240I said, he probably never let you down, did he?
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00:08:55.440No, he never let me down.
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00:08:56.879Simple communication.
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00:08:57.679Just talk to people.
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00:09:00.320That's right, yeah.
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00:09:02.320But I learned a lot from that guy.
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00:09:04.480So I I give him a hard time.
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00:09:06.559He can't hit a golf ball often.
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00:09:10.559He hit it, he finds the fairway like Lodge Holland used to.
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00:09:10.960Every time.
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00:09:12.000Boom, right in the middle.
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00:09:15.919Then that second shot, it's made like a putt.
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00:09:16.960How do you not?
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00:09:18.879I'd be having to climb trees and everything.
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00:09:19.519Horrible.
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00:09:20.639I had a horrible.
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00:09:22.799I'd spend more time off the fairway.
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00:09:25.200Yeah, I would call golf.
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00:09:27.600Golf is not for me.
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00:09:28.559Did you get banned?
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00:09:29.919Uh that did.
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00:09:31.120That did.
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00:09:32.799As long as you don't fall off.
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00:09:35.919There's a reason they have them nets there.
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00:09:42.320Alright, guys, we're back with another episode.
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00:09:42.879Yeah.
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00:09:45.600Travis is always amazed that I'm recording already.
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00:09:48.320We've been rambling for a while, anyways.
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00:09:50.960But we've got a couple of good guests for you today.
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00:09:53.759Got uh all kinds of experience.
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00:10:02.000I think this may be our first guest that has any kind of EMS experience, EMS stories.
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00:10:05.039They are also father and son.
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00:10:10.080So without further ado, our guests Mark and Noah Rudder.
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00:10:13.039I guess uh we want to go we want to go young or old.
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00:10:15.120Ah, whichever, but let them jump in.
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00:10:16.480Let the elders go first.
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00:10:17.600Oh, of course.
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00:10:18.080Of course.
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00:10:20.879Age before getting how Mark's for sure.
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00:10:22.000Mark is up.
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00:10:23.279Yeah.
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00:10:27.279We've known each other basically my whole policing career.
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00:10:34.720I mean, of you known, you know, so it's been twenty plus years of working in some capacity together.
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00:10:47.120And um we're really glad to have you on and your experience and just tell us everything that how you got into it, what all you've all the shenanigans I know that you've got to be.
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00:10:49.039Well, there's there's not many shenanigans.
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00:10:55.600You have to be real real calm and mundane and and not be involved in shenanigans, maybe.
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00:11:02.960Now um so this year marks 35 years for me in the fire service, legally.
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00:11:03.840Legally.
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00:11:04.480Right.
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00:11:08.879Um dad was a founding member of the Bush Fire Department.
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00:11:11.440Uh they founded in 1975.
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00:11:18.080I was born the day after Christmas in 72, so that gives you an idea of how that progressed for me.
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00:11:23.519Um, so I say legally, I had to wait until I turned 18 to be a bona fide firefighter.
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00:11:23.840Right.
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00:11:35.679Um and so with dad being there growing up, uh, it was kind of a uh, I guess just uh a calling, something I always wanted to do.
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00:11:41.279Um so at at age of 18, you kind of joined the fire department.
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00:11:51.120By the time I was uh 19 and a half, we'll say, I became an EMT and started working at Amletz Incorporated.
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00:11:55.360Uh so there's been a lot of part-time work there.
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00:12:02.799I worked there for over 10 years, and that's where uh that's where you really get into the the meat of things.
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00:12:10.960A lot has changed now that Noah's in the service and doing five basically the same things 25 years later.
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00:12:13.440Uh there's a big difference.
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00:12:20.559When I worked EMS, uh there was two crews during the daytime and basically at 4 p.m.
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00:12:28.879in the afternoon everybody the the first out crew stayed on basically, and then you had backup.
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00:12:29.120Right.
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00:12:39.519So uh I lived about 10 minutes from the city limits and would be on backup sometimes, so uh you'd need to stay in closer to town.
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00:12:47.360And um, you know, some of the partners I had, well, the first amulet run I ever transported with was Les Leatherman.
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00:12:47.759Wow.
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00:12:50.080And you know, we lost Les in a tornado.
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00:12:56.000Um But you know, you just look back on all those things and see those people.
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00:13:02.960Uh and that that was the first time I ever transported in the back of an ambulance uh was a tractor accident.
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00:13:04.720And Les was driving.
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00:13:05.919He said, You got it, buddy.
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00:13:08.639You know, you know, I said, So yeah, I sure hope so.
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00:13:10.639I hope for this patient I've got it, right?
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00:13:17.759But but that's just the way uh my mom and dad both worked part-time, some for the EMS throughout the years.
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00:13:25.120Uh maybe they went to school to an EMT class ten years before I did, but I went every night to the class with them.
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00:13:30.000So I guess you could say I was I went through before I could certify just going to their class.
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00:13:31.679I was the patient all the time, right?
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00:13:34.559So it's that's how you get started into this things.
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00:13:46.000And and obviously uh we look at firefighting in general, um, or emergency services in general, and a lot of times there is that family connection of some sort.
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00:13:49.679Uh and we just all kind of follow down that path.
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00:13:53.039It's kind of the destination, unfortunately, for Noah.
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00:14:03.360He got stuck with those genes, and now he's doing a great job serving the community, but it also has the drawbacks of the first response life that we all learn to live with.
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00:14:04.320I know.
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00:14:05.840Hopefully.
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00:14:08.240Now my family didn't come from that.
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00:14:12.399I was kind of the oddball going into policing, which I was the oddball.
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00:14:21.279I went to the Marine Corps, and my my grandfather was in the you know, in the army and served in World War II, and you know, I just looked up to him.
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00:14:24.240I had some friends that went to the Marines and stuff, so that's the route I took.
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00:14:28.879But I just don't see my son going that route too.
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00:14:32.080I you know, I think I was just the Yeah, I don't think.
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00:14:34.240I'm j it's funny.
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00:14:46.080Maybe it's policing and just saw something, you know, that's like but fire seems like fire, and then you'll ask that your father, and and it's just his tradition.
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00:14:47.279And I think more.
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00:14:48.399And I think that's it.
00:14:48.480 -->
00:14:51.840It is a tradition in the fire service you hear of more than anything.
00:14:52.000 -->
00:14:55.360And I think it's just that adrenaline junkie piece in you.
00:14:55.519 -->
00:14:58.240And it's no I mean, it's like law enforcement or anything else.
00:14:58.399 -->
00:15:00.240We're all type A personalities.
00:15:00.480 -->
00:15:01.840Now that's good and bad.
00:15:02.080 -->
00:15:02.480Right.
00:15:02.639 -->
00:15:10.639Uh it takes that kind of that eagerness to go forward, but we also have that edge that we tend to my way or the highway.
00:15:11.440 -->
00:15:14.240And even with other first responders at times, right?
00:15:14.480 -->
00:15:21.600I mean, we can we all probably have those situations where we the whole person they're helping us we fight with or whatever.
00:15:22.240 -->
00:15:26.080That's the thing about it, is like we're gonna have to fight and get this out of the way again.
00:15:27.120 -->
00:15:36.000That's the thing, it's the thing that you can do, is that you know, with everybody having that mentality, it's like, okay, let's have our words and then we'll shake and hug it out and we'll be done with it.
00:15:36.080 -->
00:15:37.120And then go on.
00:15:37.840 -->
00:15:38.559And you're good after that.
00:15:38.879 -->
00:15:44.240Because they they're the ones who have your back on the next call, which could be right in the middle of the argument.
00:15:45.440 -->
00:15:48.720I may be cussing you right now, but I know that you're gonna have a lot of people.
00:15:48.879 -->
00:15:51.039I take my chair of blowing up almost to you.
00:15:54.320 -->
00:16:02.080You know, we don't call you blow up, you get aggravated, you vet, because we're bad for that too.
00:16:02.159 -->
00:16:03.919But I guess that's part of what we need to do.
00:16:05.360 -->
00:16:05.600Yeah.
00:16:05.679 -->
00:16:13.919Um getting it all, you know, and the people like, man, why are the police officers, why are firefighters so grumpy after or whatever?
00:16:14.159 -->
00:16:16.960Well, we've had this pinned up aggression.
00:16:17.039 -->
00:16:19.200Uh we've seen things that we shouldn't have seen.
00:16:20.559 -->
00:16:28.960And sometimes letting that out doesn't because we're we're we are stubborn and we are we don't deal with it the right way sometimes.
00:16:29.279 -->
00:16:32.159But I think that's our way of coping.
00:16:32.480 -->
00:16:36.080And sometimes, you know, we may get into it with each other.
00:16:36.480 -->
00:16:42.159However, I think all of us are adult enough to be like, I'm not gonna take too much offense to that.
00:16:42.240 -->
00:16:43.679I can get older, I can get past it.
00:16:44.000 -->
00:16:44.399And right.
00:16:44.559 -->
00:16:48.639And I think that's part of the also goes with that's that sick sense of humor.
00:16:48.799 -->
00:16:54.799Yes, guys, we truly have a sick sense of humor that you have to, and that's kind of your way of dealing with things, you know.
00:16:55.039 -->
00:17:05.119Um when a group of people, whether it be police or fire, EMS or combination of all, go out to dinner, you're not exactly sure what the dinner topics are going to be around the table.
00:17:05.440 -->
00:17:11.839And other people would probably just freak out at some of the things we talk about, but really that's a coping making isn't it?
00:17:11.920 -->
00:17:13.359Yeah, funny everybody bonding.
00:17:13.680 -->
00:17:15.039Yeah, funny story about that one time.
00:17:15.119 -->
00:17:21.039Me and J Mac and while I was working on um that interdiction team, memorize on that back in the day.
00:17:21.200 -->
00:17:30.799We were sitting at Wendy's talking about going through the um psychological stuff at the going into police academy.
00:17:31.200 -->
00:17:36.160And he was we was just talking about these stories, and I was like, it's untelling what we were saying.
00:17:37.359 -->
00:17:41.039We we thought we were quiet, but you know how we are, we just we can't help it.
00:17:42.000 -->
00:17:48.319And these people we're getting we just start hearing them start laughing, just chuckling.
00:17:48.799 -->
00:17:56.559And we were like, look over, she's like, You guys, that's the most fun and the most entertaining dinner we've ever like.
00:17:59.680 -->
00:18:04.000We were just talking about the questions that were asking, like going through it in our head.
00:18:04.079 -->
00:18:07.039This was like, Well, I'll be I'm definitely crazy.
00:18:07.200 -->
00:18:08.960But they they laughed and carried on.
00:18:09.119 -->
00:18:12.559I was like, I'm so glad we we didn't go down a different rabbit hole.
00:18:12.799 -->
00:18:14.640But you know, you mentioned you mentioned that though.
00:18:14.720 -->
00:18:18.240Uh yeah, definitely don't go down the wrong rabbit hole because they were listening too much.
00:18:18.400 -->
00:18:21.440But but you mentioned about going out to eat as a group.
00:18:21.759 -->
00:18:23.359That's also got its drawbacks.
00:18:24.079 -->
00:18:24.559Yeah, very much.
00:18:25.039 -->
00:18:30.880Because many times those people working in those restaurants might have crossed your path somewhere outside of the restaurant.
00:18:33.680 -->
00:18:43.920We were we were at Frisch's and uh we were sitting there and one of the guys ordered a burger and it comes out and it's got a thumbprint right in the top of it.
00:18:44.240 -->
00:18:45.759Right in the right in the bun.
00:18:46.240 -->
00:18:50.640And what's in the thumbprint, just a short and curly, right in the middle of it.
00:18:50.720 -->
00:19:00.720So somebody just plucked the pube and right then we were working EMS one night, and uh back in the day there wasn't a lot of places to eat at night.
00:19:00.880 -->
00:19:07.680Y'all work night shift for a long time, but uh it wasn't the burger boy, uh, it was Perkins.
00:19:08.079 -->
00:19:11.279And we we had gone out there and and that's kind of what we would do.
00:19:11.359 -->
00:19:14.400Some we'd go one place or the other and sit back and wait, right?
00:19:14.640 -->
00:19:15.839You know, this is 30 years ago.
00:19:15.920 -->
00:19:18.400Maybe it protected us that it's over with at this point.
00:19:18.480 -->
00:19:20.160But Perkins has been gone a little while for that.
00:19:20.400 -->
00:19:21.119A long time, yeah.
00:19:21.279 -->
00:19:27.920So so we're sitting there and uh enjoying our meal and getting done, and we're just sitting around because that's kind of what you did.
00:19:28.079 -->
00:19:36.960Uh we sat around and talked, and a guy walks out of the kitchen, he walks over to the person next to me and he says, You don't remember me, but I remember you.
00:19:38.799 -->
00:19:40.400This is not gonna end well.
00:19:41.440 -->
00:19:45.200And he rattled out, said, I told you that day I'd get even.
00:19:45.599 -->
00:19:49.680He said, I hope you enjoyed your hamburger on the cook, and he turned around and walked back to the kitchen.
00:19:50.000 -->
00:19:52.319Uh at least y'all got tipped off a little.
00:19:53.200 -->
00:19:55.279I mean, I didn't want to go puke somebody.
00:19:56.079 -->
00:19:57.279I mean, that was just match.
00:19:57.599 -->
00:20:01.599Even that it it makes me wonder how many, you know, logies or whatever you know.
00:20:02.160 -->
00:20:03.440You've seen that movie Waiting?
00:20:03.599 -->
00:20:04.240Have you ever seen it?
00:20:04.400 -->
00:20:05.039Yes, yeah.
00:20:05.200 -->
00:20:06.880I I'm sure that that goes on.
00:20:06.960 -->
00:20:15.359It's but we even now, like where I work now, though somebody'll come in and be like, well, it's not safe to go eat at Wendy's for a little while because you know we just arrested.
00:20:16.559 -->
00:20:19.920So you share that with me.
00:20:21.680 -->
00:20:22.960Just eat the customer.
00:20:23.119 -->
00:20:23.920Just ask, yeah.
00:20:24.319 -->
00:20:25.039Just do what we do.
00:20:25.200 -->
00:20:27.200Go all these, come back to the break room.
00:20:28.000 -->
00:20:32.880It it's a shame though that you that you have to be alert and aware of that stuff.
00:20:33.039 -->
00:20:47.759I mean, it it EMS or anybody, you're gonna cross these paths and you go into places that anytime you deal with public, you know, police takes away people's rights and then uh house them in you know in the jail, or what we take away their liberties, whatever.
00:20:48.480 -->
00:20:49.680EMS, though.
00:20:49.920 -->
00:20:51.359You didn't get there fast enough.
00:20:51.440 -->
00:20:52.559You've it's your fault.
00:20:52.960 -->
00:20:53.200Oh, yeah.
00:20:53.359 -->
00:20:54.559We took your high away.
00:20:55.039 -->
00:20:56.799Yeah, that now we're allowed to be.
00:20:56.880 -->
00:21:01.119That's a big yeah, we got to experience that when we started carrying our camp.
00:21:01.200 -->
00:21:01.920That was a lot of us.
00:21:02.319 -->
00:21:04.000Are you coming up puking and fighting?
00:21:04.079 -->
00:21:06.160Or combination, yeah.
00:21:06.400 -->
00:21:07.839I mean, it's yeah.
00:21:08.400 -->
00:21:19.920But now going back to the original the the history and how I got started, you know, and then um my wife, uh she also became an EMT and worked EMS.
00:21:20.000 -->
00:21:21.759So she's too afraid to come on.
00:21:22.000 -->
00:21:24.480Yeah, she's she's not a we could not talk green.
00:21:24.720 -->
00:21:25.680I don't know how that worked.
00:21:25.839 -->
00:21:27.359But she could have sat there and kept here.
00:21:28.079 -->
00:21:35.519So that's you know, that even keeps it in the line of uh why Noah, now our daughter, uh, she flat out said nothing medical.
00:21:35.680 -->
00:21:36.079Nothing.
00:21:36.319 -->
00:21:38.480No part, she's a school teacher, God help her.
00:21:38.559 -->
00:21:40.720So uh you know I would say that worse.
00:21:41.200 -->
00:21:45.759She's an angel in her own in her own way, right there, in my mind anyway, yeah.
00:21:45.920 -->
00:21:47.039Uh getting to do that.
00:21:47.200 -->
00:21:58.240But when when Heather was pregnant with Noah, um it was about the day before she went into the hospital to be induced, uh, we went on a rescue call.
00:21:58.400 -->
00:22:03.200It was a double fatality to teenagers, and Noah went as in the womb.
00:22:03.440 -->
00:22:07.359Um unfortunately that was a terrible situation.
00:22:07.680 -->
00:22:18.160Noah was just a few days old and he ended up on a rescue call because some knucklehead was trying to steal Pepsi's out of a Pepsi machine and got his arm stuck.
00:22:18.319 -->
00:22:24.240So, you know, and Noah was just in in the just barely out of the womb at that point.
00:22:24.400 -->
00:22:27.759So he he was he was glutton for punishment.
00:22:27.920 -->
00:22:36.640I mean, that's you know, and then of course, with uh our daughter being the second child, she didn't get exposed to all that, because by then Heather stayed home with Noah and her.
00:22:36.720 -->
00:22:39.119So Well they're yeah, I mean they're predisposed.
00:22:39.200 -->
00:22:41.200I mean, you we it all it happened to all of us.
00:22:41.279 -->
00:22:45.759You see, you see that lifestyle, you see what they do, and you look up to them and they're heroes.
00:22:45.839 -->
00:22:46.720Yeah, I mean they're heroes.
00:22:46.880 -->
00:22:52.720And hopefully that, you know we're law enforcement and you know, fire, and I mean not so much fire.
00:22:52.799 -->
00:22:59.279I mean, fire can your house can burn down and you're still a hero, but it doesn't depend, you know.
00:23:00.640 -->
00:23:05.279You know, that's why police officers try to go in and do the firefighters' jobs before they get there.
00:23:05.599 -->
00:23:05.920That's true.
00:23:06.319 -->
00:23:07.119Because you want to be one.
00:23:07.359 -->
00:23:08.000That's exactly right.
00:23:08.079 -->
00:23:10.000I I question my constituents.
00:23:10.319 -->
00:23:11.359Firefighters pass the test.
00:23:11.839 -->
00:23:12.480That's exactly right.
00:23:13.039 -->
00:23:22.319What wasn't that uh they said the civil life.
00:23:25.119 -->
00:23:25.279Yeah.
00:23:25.920 -->
00:23:31.680But yeah, you you see it and you the I mean these kids see heroes, which I mean the media portrays a lot of different things.
00:23:32.079 -->
00:23:37.680But now it's a lot different than it was, you know, when I started, like I said, over thirty years ago.
00:23:37.920 -->
00:23:42.480No one has to deal with and you all still active.
00:23:42.640 -->
00:23:48.559I mean, as far as there's nothing you're gonna do that's gonna make all the public happy.
00:23:48.880 -->
00:23:50.960No, you can't make everybody starters.
00:23:52.480 -->
00:23:55.440I pick up my phone with a camera and a video camera.
00:23:55.599 -->
00:23:55.680Yeah.
00:23:56.000 -->
00:24:00.960You know, uh it's portrayed as something it isn't a lot of times now.
00:24:01.359 -->
00:24:13.680When you've got a 10-second clip that doesn't show context of anything, you could it's but they show the cop or the the EMS worker smacking the person across the head to get them off of 'em because they're going to kill them if they don't, you know.
00:24:13.759 -->
00:24:15.359You don't get all that other part.
00:24:15.519 -->
00:24:19.599Yeah, you you you miss the the the whole lead up to that.
00:24:20.000 -->
00:24:36.319It it's so it's so tough because you all know that you're arriving on a scene where somebody may have drug problems, they may have all kinds of medical problems, they may have mental health issues, and we show up and we don't know these people.
00:24:36.480 -->
00:24:44.319And we're making all these decisions or trying to make, you know, come to a good um reasoning at that coffee pot back there.
00:24:44.720 -->
00:24:48.319Uh just randomly goes all the way into the coming on.
00:24:50.160 -->
00:25:00.400But they had well, you know, we go to these things, we're making these split second decisions with people's lives, and the and we don't know their family history of everything going on.
00:25:00.640 -->
00:25:05.519And we're trying to s solve this mysteries of that they can't get figured out.
00:25:06.240 -->
00:25:06.640Basically.
00:25:07.039 -->
00:25:09.599Seconds and minutes that's taken them years to get it.
00:25:10.079 -->
00:25:10.160Yes.
00:25:10.400 -->
00:25:10.640Yeah.
00:25:11.039 -->
00:25:18.799And it's just a tough and you've got to fight being, you know, getting complacent because this may be your fifteenth call of the same thing that day.
00:25:19.279 -->
00:25:21.359Or you'll be the same person you go to a whole time.
00:25:22.160 -->
00:25:28.079But you've got to try and fight that and keep in mind that this is the worst, you know, maybe the worst day that they've ever had.
00:25:28.240 -->
00:25:33.119So it's you know, it's it's just Tuesday for us, but it's the worst, worst day they've ever had.
00:25:33.519 -->
00:25:48.240I remember going I don't know if I was in class or what it was, or somebody reminded me one time that little parking lot wreck, the one that we've worked thousands of, might be that person's first and the worst thing that's ever happened to them.
00:25:48.400 -->
00:25:49.519And they're over there freaking out.
00:25:50.160 -->
00:26:04.400And their family as well, when they come screeching in to us you know we're over there like registration and all it's like same singing out the same song out of the songbook every time or whatever, you know.
00:26:04.799 -->
00:26:12.880So that empathy and that's learning to deal and to show like some grace to people is so so hard.
00:26:13.200 -->
00:26:13.680It's hard.
00:26:14.079 -->
00:26:14.960But yeah, you have to.
00:26:15.279 -->
00:26:25.680But you know, and I'll add that that was something that uh that I could learn a lot from my dad because uh anybody that knew dad knew he kind of w went above and beyond with people.
00:26:25.920 -->
00:26:30.000He very rarely did you ever see him get frustrated with people.
00:26:30.240 -->
00:26:33.359I, on the other hand, normally start out frustrated.
00:26:36.000 -->
00:26:40.880You know I'm ready to be frustrated.
00:26:41.680 -->
00:26:45.839Well, he had all kinds of different things in his well, that's right.
00:26:45.920 -->
00:26:50.319That's right, you know, and you know, being a school teacher and then a school principal.
00:26:50.559 -->
00:26:53.119He was my assistant principal in high school.
00:26:53.359 -->
00:27:04.319So that was uh I didn't do a whole lot of bad stuff in high school because he could have done anything to me in school that would have rival rivaled what he would have done at home.
00:27:04.480 -->
00:27:14.799So, you know, but uh, you know, you look at that and and people have spoken a lot about him that that was something that he he made a positive impact in their life.
00:27:14.880 -->
00:27:17.920And I guess every one of us should strive to be more like that every day.
00:27:18.160 -->
00:27:24.400I saw on Facebook, did he have a birthday here or something that last Thursday was the fourth anniversary of his day.
00:27:24.960 -->
00:27:37.759Okay, so I saw him out, you know, you just remember those four how good he was, not you know legendary fire, you know, you know, police, all that stuff.
00:27:38.079 -->
00:27:44.000Not to mention legendary, you know, with the school system here, and just it's man.
00:27:44.319 -->
00:27:48.319We've lost he when he left, when he died, he he left a big holes.
00:27:48.720 -->
00:27:52.559He did, he did, and you don't realize what all somebody does until they're gone.
00:27:53.279 -->
00:27:53.440Right.
00:27:54.319 -->
00:27:54.640Oh, yeah.
00:27:55.039 -->
00:27:57.599Everybody was like, hey, we need to do so and so.
00:27:57.759 -->
00:27:59.200And they're like, well, he already took care of that.
00:27:59.440 -->
00:28:01.519Well, all right, we have to figure out how to do it now.
00:28:01.680 -->
00:28:05.039So you know that's you take those things for granted while they're here.
00:28:05.680 -->
00:28:18.880Well, while we were at our old church, Providence, when he passed away, everybody realized how much he'd done for the money and the attendance and the bulletins and the sound system.
00:28:19.039 -->
00:28:19.440Yeah.
00:28:19.599 -->
00:28:31.440And he did all that at church and he did equal with the fire department, you know, and it was like, uh now it takes two or three people to do each job that he did, you know, and I understand.
00:28:31.920 -->
00:28:35.279Uh but no we talk about how good of a guy he was.
00:28:35.440 -->
00:28:42.000Noah's got a video or an audio clip of him uh almost losing his religion on a f on a fire one night.
00:28:42.319 -->
00:28:51.119He drove in, and you know, uh it Terry Wattenberger's always the one to capture these good moments or bring out the best in us or something like that.
00:28:51.359 -->
00:29:05.119Of course, Booger would I think Booger uh fed Noah with a an audio right here that this is dad pulling up on a fire scene, uh and just a lot of excitement occurs while he's trying to talk on the radio.
00:29:05.200 -->
00:29:14.319So it And he's normally cool, calm, and collected, but backstory car fire about ten o'clock at night.
00:29:14.720 -->
00:29:15.680In the middle of nowhere.
00:29:15.920 -->
00:29:18.559Yeah, so probably stolen.
00:29:18.799 -->
00:29:19.759Probably, yeah.
00:29:20.079 -->
00:29:30.240Well, little did we know this stolen vehicle quotation marks had about four or five propane tanks in the middle of the truck.
00:29:30.720 -->
00:29:31.279So no.
00:29:31.519 -->
00:29:37.440You go up this little gravel road to a cemetery, and there's a vehicle fully involved.
00:29:37.680 -->
00:29:40.000And you're walking up to an IED.
00:29:48.640 -->
00:29:49.759I've never heard him.
00:29:49.920 -->
00:29:51.440Yeah, he almost got him.
00:29:56.079 -->
00:29:59.519Everybody at the fire department or the rescue squad heard that.
00:30:00.079 -->
00:30:02.960And they were like, Did he already cuss on the radio?
00:30:03.119 -->
00:30:03.519I said, No.
00:30:03.839 -->
00:30:06.640No, no, but he uh he lost his train of thought.
00:30:07.039 -->
00:30:07.519You know what I mean?
00:30:07.599 -->
00:30:09.920Saying that we treat the best of us that did.
00:30:11.759 -->
00:30:13.920We got there and I said, You good?
00:30:14.000 -->
00:30:17.119And he said, buddy, I thought that thing was gonna blow up on me.
00:30:18.480 -->
00:30:22.319And then I said, Well, here's your core break, these propane things blowing up.
00:30:22.559 -->
00:30:22.799Yeah.
00:30:23.440 -->
00:30:24.480Oh my gosh.
00:30:26.720 -->
00:30:41.839There was when he was working at the SO, he'd always do school traffic at Bush Elementary, and he was so OCD, and he would say, Well, I'm so CDO because he had to put it in alphabetical order.
00:30:42.400 -->
00:30:43.920That's how he was.
00:30:44.960 -->
00:30:46.079Is Troy like that too?
00:30:46.160 -->
00:30:46.640I don't know.
00:30:49.519 -->
00:31:01.039But every day you would know when he goes on scene at the school and when he's leaving, because an exact point is when he would go 9798.
00:31:01.279 -->
00:31:01.599Yep.
00:31:01.759 -->
00:31:02.160Always.
00:31:02.400 -->
00:31:02.960Didn't miss that.
00:31:03.200 -->
00:31:05.200And then it was like Phil Bernard took over.
00:31:06.160 -->
00:31:11.200And it would be like on the like at least if I try to do something like that, it'd be on every five minutes.
00:31:11.279 -->
00:31:14.079His would be like 723 or something.
00:31:14.319 -->
00:31:15.759Because that's just that's him.
00:31:16.079 -->
00:31:16.880That's what he did.
00:31:17.039 -->
00:31:18.160That's the way he did it.
00:31:18.319 -->
00:31:20.319I'm like, no, no, I can't do it.
00:31:21.839 -->
00:31:22.480Wow.
00:31:23.119 -->
00:31:23.599Yeah.
00:31:23.759 -->
00:31:24.559I'm missing.
00:31:25.519 -->
00:31:27.359I know how you almost it must be.
00:31:27.920 -->
00:31:28.319Absolutely.
00:31:28.480 -->
00:31:47.440But uh, you know, that's one of those things anytime you lose somebody that's important to you and has had an influence on your life, you just have to sit back and there's times you just have to relax and and those answers are in you, you know, it and and you've got those embedded in you, and that's just how you get through those things, you know.
00:31:47.519 -->
00:32:04.400And and obviously he's a he was a very religious man, so I know that uh he's not suffering anymore, and that's the best way to think about that, to know that uh I could be selfish and wishing by care, but his rewards are a lot more than anything on this cruel world.
00:32:04.640 -->
00:32:04.960I know.
00:32:05.200 -->
00:32:10.160So that's that's honestly what you have to that's how you have to get through the loss of somebody like that.
00:32:10.559 -->
00:32:10.880Absolutely.
00:32:11.279 -->
00:32:13.039He's with his daddy and Susan.
00:32:13.359 -->
00:32:13.599Yeah.
00:32:14.240 -->
00:32:15.039Yeah, that's right.
00:32:15.119 -->
00:32:15.359Yeah.
00:32:16.160 -->
00:32:19.599That was his girl, Susie Susie Q is Q.
00:32:20.400 -->
00:32:21.119Yeah, man.
00:32:21.440 -->
00:32:25.920I think that's something that we don't talk about enough is in this line of profession.
00:32:26.240 -->
00:32:28.079I mean, it just is is your faith.
00:32:28.319 -->
00:32:33.279I mean, it's uh how important it is to have to have some kind of a faith.
00:32:33.359 -->
00:32:48.240I mean you know, yeah, we we talk a lot and we're sponsored by great, you know, great company about with mental health, but really if you could tie the two, uh more importantly than anything is our faith.
00:32:48.400 -->
00:33:03.359And not not just you know, with with everything that's happened this last couple weeks with Charlie and all this stuff, you start awakening you see these things, you're like, wow we need revival really badly.
00:33:03.759 -->
00:33:07.279Absolutely, absolutely maybe happening, and it's really neat to see.
00:33:07.440 -->
00:33:07.599Yeah.
00:33:07.839 -->
00:33:11.839You have to hope so anyway, and and you have to stay focused on those positives.
00:33:12.000 -->
00:33:23.039And that was one of the things that um when dad first retired, he uh would transport prisoners, you know, to either to take them to prison or go pick them up somewhere or whatever.
00:33:23.359 -->
00:33:28.400And uh he always listened to gospel music, so they got to listen to gospel music.
00:33:28.640 -->
00:33:30.319So that was his ministry to them sometimes.
00:33:30.400 -->
00:33:31.599But I bet he prayed for them.
00:33:31.920 -->
00:33:32.640Oh, you know he did.
00:33:32.960 -->
00:33:39.359You know, and he would stop and I there's times I know he stopped and bought them cheeseburgers to feed them before he took them to prison.
00:33:39.680 -->
00:33:43.759Here, enjoy your McDonald's cheeseburger before you go into prison or whatever.
00:33:43.839 -->
00:33:48.640And those those are the things that I mean we can all have a little bit of ER in us and do a lot better.
00:33:48.799 -->
00:33:51.440But he had people come back and tell him, Thank you.
00:33:51.680 -->
00:33:53.039You're treated me like a human.
00:33:53.200 -->
00:33:53.359Yeah.
00:33:53.440 -->
00:33:53.519Right.
00:33:53.759 -->
00:33:56.559And um, I think sometimes we all kind of forget that.
00:33:56.960 -->
00:33:58.160Yeah, we fall short a lot.
00:33:59.279 -->
00:34:04.160I think we forget about we want justice a lot of time, we forget about the mercy side of it.
00:34:04.960 -->
00:34:16.559And um it's easy to get jaded and not and not realize what type of opportunity you have and how many opportunities that you've had to to witness or do or do something in that that aspect.
00:34:17.039 -->
00:34:28.719And it's a really good spot when they're sitting in the back, you know, unless they're fighting to carry on, but in the back of that car, turning on the you know, the Christian music, the Kalos or whatever, and or just saying, Hey man, I'm I'm praying for you.
00:34:28.880 -->
00:34:30.159Is there anything, you know, I've done it?
00:34:30.400 -->
00:34:33.199And then there's times to feel that you can treat them like a human and then they'll work.
00:34:33.440 -->
00:34:33.519Yeah.
00:34:33.840 -->
00:34:39.199There's so many times though that you have to have that you've got to be that firm.
00:34:39.599 -->
00:34:50.960And then we all get rough because it is that like Noah said you go to the same place over and over, or you get the same call over and over, but we don't know what they're going through at the time.
00:34:51.039 -->
00:34:56.400And sometimes you can make a difference because they have no hope any other way of getting out of there and changing their ways.
00:34:56.480 -->
00:35:06.000So maybe maybe w each time we can make a positive light, but we also tend to stop anymore.
00:35:06.239 -->
00:35:11.119And I guess that's the the bad part about being a first responder, is we put up those barriers.
00:35:11.679 -->
00:35:22.559And we don't we almost you hate to say you don't care, but it's almost to the point that we put up those barriers so thick that we don't want in their mass.
00:35:23.199 -->
00:35:24.559Yeah, we don't want to.
00:35:24.800 -->
00:35:30.079We don't need to show that personal side of us to them or vice versa.
00:35:30.159 -->
00:35:30.480Yeah.
00:35:30.719 -->
00:35:47.360I and and you you know when you look at the stuff that we see and the stuff that we deal with, you you almost at the moment you can't live into that you know, that craziness that's occurring because it'll make you go eat nuts.
00:35:47.679 -->
00:35:57.199The walls we build because we've been we've seen the worst, we've seen people humanity it it's all you know, it's it's brokenness.
00:35:57.840 -->
00:36:03.599And the walls we build a lot of times not just to protect us, but to keep you out.
00:36:04.800 -->
00:36:09.760And um those walls then transfer into our family.
00:36:10.320 -->
00:36:16.480Um and how many times um I got to hear you know Dan's testimony yesterday.
00:36:17.679 -->
00:36:18.719I listened to it afterwards.
00:36:18.960 -->
00:36:29.599And I was just like broken because I was sitting there listening to a man who, you know, and I'm like a lot of it hit home.
00:36:29.840 -->
00:36:30.400Yeah, you're gonna be able to do that.
00:36:30.800 -->
00:36:32.639You know, hit home.
00:36:32.880 -->
00:36:42.320And and that's what I guess honestly to me that's one of the things that is the hardest for me is seeing Noah go right into the same stuff.
00:36:42.559 -->
00:36:50.239And you know, Noah's got several just calls that stand out that especially being on the rescue squad.
00:36:51.039 -->
00:36:52.480Because he's there with those things.
00:36:52.559 -->
00:37:00.960He he works EMS, he's worked fire, he's still a volunteer firefighter, and then he's a volunteer rescue man, and he's going on those calls all the time.
00:37:01.119 -->
00:37:03.840And just I mean, that stuff takes a toll on you, man.
00:37:03.920 -->
00:37:07.440It Noah has seen stuff that No, no young man.
00:37:08.159 -->
00:37:08.800How old are you now?
00:37:09.119 -->
00:37:09.44026.
00:37:09.760 -->
00:37:10.159Yeah.
00:37:10.400 -->
00:37:10.800You know?
00:37:11.039 -->
00:37:22.239That's when I started, and he's already seen well, he's already but I mean the things that you've seen no young man should see, really, honestly.
00:37:22.559 -->
00:37:26.960You've seen more things than people that's been in some bad combat zones have seen.
00:37:27.519 -->
00:37:38.159So you we And I think we're saying all this to make sure that you're trying to make sure that make sure it doesn't lay up on you, and you know, you've always got people to talk to.
00:37:38.239 -->
00:37:45.440And I mean, I I think back as it even before I became a a full-fledged firefighter and responding.
00:37:45.519 -->
00:37:50.639And, you know, um one call that really sticks out to me was a girl that I went to school with.
00:37:50.719 -->
00:38:00.320She was a couple years older than me, and it was her 16th birthday, and uh she was out with some friends and the car rolled over and she was trapped under it, and all that you could see was her feet.
00:38:00.800 -->
00:38:04.960And I recognized her shoes because I rode the bus with her.
00:38:05.119 -->
00:38:10.960You know, and you see those things, and it's like those those things never disappear, right?
00:38:11.039 -->
00:38:12.079They never disappear.
00:38:12.559 -->
00:38:13.360We all have them.
00:38:13.679 -->
00:38:19.760Uh, and and but you have to also think of the blessings that we've we've made a difference somewhere along the line.
00:38:20.400 -->
00:38:23.039Um of the things we never know, the outcomes.
00:38:23.199 -->
00:38:28.960I mean, Noah is like the king of finding bad stuff and putting them on helicopters, it seems like.
00:38:30.079 -->
00:38:33.440But we think we don't know the difference we've made in those calls.
00:38:33.599 -->
00:38:36.079You know, he never hears the the positive outcomes.
00:38:36.159 -->
00:38:39.440Unfortunately, we hear the bad ones because they end up at the funeral home or something right now.
00:38:41.280 -->
00:38:43.599That's the tough part of our line.
00:38:43.760 -->
00:38:46.880You look, you know, you start looking at obituaries and be like, did they make it?
00:38:46.960 -->
00:38:52.079or or then you just become jaded and you don't even look.
00:38:52.159 -->
00:38:52.800You don't even care.
00:38:52.880 -->
00:38:57.440You know, it's not that you don't care, you just you don't want that constant reminder of things.
00:38:57.840 -->
00:38:58.239Yeah.
00:38:58.480 -->
00:39:04.159You know, Noah may not have it written down there or not, but Noah was the ambulance that responded when Logan got hit.
00:39:04.320 -->
00:39:04.800Yeah.
00:39:05.039 -->
00:39:09.760You know, those are those are times that we'll never forget.
00:39:10.000 -->
00:39:16.400Uh I'll never forget Noah calling me, telling me, and uh me looking at Heather and saying, I'll be back.
00:39:16.639 -->
00:39:20.639I mean, you just leave and go to help him or help anybody else.
00:39:20.880 -->
00:39:23.039Um, you're not prepared for those things.
00:39:23.119 -->
00:39:23.199No.
00:39:23.599 -->
00:39:24.480None of us are.
00:39:24.880 -->
00:39:26.320Because he's about your age, right?
00:39:26.480 -->
00:39:27.760I mean, just a little older.
00:39:28.079 -->
00:39:32.320He's he was a couple years older than me, but we went to school together.
00:39:33.679 -->
00:39:37.840I was so thankful that I was not working that night.
00:39:38.079 -->
00:39:42.400That that I wasn't there, that I didn't see what everybody else saw.
00:39:43.360 -->
00:39:49.360I it's like I tell everybody I said besides the tornado, I said that was the worst call I'd been on.
00:39:49.440 -->
00:39:49.599Yeah.
00:39:49.760 -->
00:40:01.039That's that's because really you want to help 'em, but in my line of work You also know that you know that there's really nothing you can do.
00:40:01.760 -->
00:40:08.079And that was the hardest time telling your friends that he's gone.
00:40:08.320 -->
00:40:08.800Right.
00:40:09.280 -->
00:40:12.800And I can still see everybody's faces.
00:40:13.519 -->
00:40:21.519And some of them did get angry, but you know, but that's the response knew was coming.
00:40:23.039 -->
00:40:28.960Because a couple of them knew he was gone and some of them just couldn't accept it.
00:40:29.039 -->
00:40:36.719And then later on, a couple of days later, even at his funeral, I had people come up to me saying, Dude, I'm so sorry for yelling at you.
00:40:37.039 -->
00:40:38.880I'm like, dude, I it's fine.
00:40:40.400 -->
00:40:42.639And I'm sorry that we couldn't do nothing.
00:40:42.719 -->
00:40:43.679I wanted to do something.
00:40:44.000 -->
00:40:46.559Grief and shock.
00:40:48.480 -->
00:40:57.760When it's a when it's a colleague and a friend or probably the worst thing that you can go through now.
00:40:58.159 -->
00:41:08.719And it's hard on on our side as far as law enforcement to show up to something like that and not go straight into anger and then allow that to override.
00:41:13.039 -->
00:41:21.039Then you've got to sit and wait and say, well, if we do something, something happens and we we ruin the investigation.
00:41:21.360 -->
00:41:22.239We ruin, you know.
00:41:22.800 -->
00:41:25.440And that that one was that one was handled very professionally.
00:41:25.760 -->
00:41:26.000It was.
00:41:26.079 -->
00:41:26.239I was.
00:41:26.559 -->
00:41:28.880I mean, it could have been it could have gone a lot of other ways.
00:41:29.119 -->
00:41:30.719I mean, there's there's no other way of putting it.
00:41:30.960 -->
00:41:32.559No, yeah, it's there's no other way of putting it.
00:41:32.639 -->
00:41:33.119It could have been a good thing.
00:41:33.280 -->
00:41:34.000But it was handled well.
00:41:36.079 -->
00:41:38.639And our justice has been searched, you know, because of that.
00:41:39.599 -->
00:41:42.960Well, we yeah, it wasn't because I didn't want to.
00:41:43.280 -->
00:41:43.519No.
00:41:43.679 -->
00:41:44.960I and that's understandable.
00:41:45.280 -->
00:41:51.760And the hate and the um the anger was I mean, I could feel it.
00:41:52.320 -->
00:41:55.280And I've never been that upset.
00:41:55.840 -->
00:41:57.679I mean, I still had to go to counseling over it.
00:41:58.000 -->
00:41:59.199And that's understandable.
00:41:59.599 -->
00:42:07.360Um but and it all, I mean, it started for me that year as far as a lot of things coming back.
00:42:07.440 -->
00:42:18.239You know, you know, and I'm I talked about Dan already, but when Dan Smoot was telling this story, you know, and and everybody needs to listen to that at uh uh it was on Facebook in London, Kentucky.
00:42:18.800 -->
00:42:20.079It's on their Facebook page.
00:42:20.960 -->
00:42:21.360Absolutely.
00:42:21.440 -->
00:42:25.360If you listen to our podcast, you definitely need to listen to his story.
00:42:25.599 -->
00:42:30.000But when he was talking about some of the things in the car wreck in Breathett County.
00:42:30.159 -->
00:42:30.559Yes.
00:42:31.280 -->
00:42:33.039Um right off the bat.
00:42:33.920 -->
00:42:50.320But how many times have you closed your eyes at night and seen that that body, that person and I mean I've had I've had a 24-week gestation baby in my hands and done CPR on it that was born at home.
00:42:50.639 -->
00:42:54.880And I'm talking from my wrist to my fingertips long.
00:42:55.440 -->
00:42:59.599And for people to say that, you know, these babies aren't humans is just ridiculous.
00:42:59.760 -->
00:43:00.719I've seen those things.
00:43:00.800 -->
00:43:04.400And those are things that are embedded in your mind that you can't forget.
00:43:04.719 -->
00:43:11.039Um, you know, we lost when we lost dad, it was a a medical uh line of duty death.
00:43:11.119 -->
00:43:15.280He's classified as a national line of duty death in fire and EMS.
00:43:15.840 -->
00:43:18.480And um, you know, Travis in the same way.
00:43:19.119 -->
00:43:24.880You all had to deal with two line of duty deaths within a year in the PD.
00:43:25.920 -->
00:43:32.239Totally different circumstances, but each one leaves a void that is just it you can't replace those people.
00:43:32.480 -->
00:43:43.519I tell you this, and I I don't know if I've talked about this on on on this, but I'll tell you when I was when I was in the therapy session, Logan's devastated me.
00:43:43.599 -->
00:43:44.559Don't get me wrong.
00:43:46.400 -->
00:43:52.159But I kept going, I couldn't get past my grief with Travis because I hadn't dealt with it right.
00:43:53.039 -->
00:43:59.760So I had to get through that hours worth before I could even talk about Logan because I kept I kept going here.
00:43:59.920 -->
00:44:01.840I was not a good friend that I should have been.
00:44:01.920 -->
00:44:05.039I was a lot of this guilt that had built up in me.
00:44:05.760 -->
00:44:08.159And realistically, there was absolutely nothing.
00:44:08.400 -->
00:44:11.360And I mean, we went through that, you know, we went through that with dad.
00:44:11.599 -->
00:44:14.480The night mom called me and said, Your dad's having breathing trouble.
00:44:14.559 -->
00:44:15.760We knew he was COVID positive.
00:44:15.920 -->
00:44:16.719I was too at the time.
00:44:16.880 -->
00:44:19.280Heather had locked me in the bedroom for a week.
00:44:19.519 -->
00:44:25.199Uh and I had actually gone out to mow dad's yard that day, and I walked in his house and he looked at me and he said, What are you doing here?
00:44:25.360 -->
00:44:26.639And I said, I had to get out of the house.
00:44:26.719 -->
00:44:27.280I'm feeling better.
00:44:27.440 -->
00:44:28.159He said, Are you sure?
00:44:28.239 -->
00:44:30.159And I said, Yeah, I think I could walk to Manchester.
00:44:30.239 -->
00:44:32.559They live about halfway between London and Manchester.
00:44:33.039 -->
00:44:34.559He said, Well, I don't think you need to do that.
00:44:34.719 -->
00:44:36.239I said, No, but I think I'll mow your yard.
00:44:36.320 -->
00:44:39.119And he said, Well, you won't do it to suit me, don't do it.
00:44:39.920 -->
00:44:40.480I told you.
00:44:40.880 -->
00:44:45.840I still mowing the yard today, and I know every time I'm mowing, I'm not doing it to suit him.
00:44:46.239 -->
00:44:51.119But you know, so when mom called me that night and said, Hey, your dad's having trouble breathing.
00:44:51.280 -->
00:44:53.199Um, I said, I'm on my way.
00:44:53.440 -->
00:44:54.400Noah's working.
00:44:54.559 -->
00:44:56.239Noah transported him to the hospital.
00:44:57.119 -->
00:45:00.960So, you know, I mean, those are just things, like I said, Noah's had some blows.
00:45:01.039 -->
00:45:01.760I mean, he really has.
00:45:01.840 -->
00:45:06.960He hauled dad his last trip to the hospital and he worked the the accident involving Logan.
00:45:07.039 -->
00:45:10.719I mean, those are just things realistically that will lay.
00:45:10.800 -->
00:45:14.559And he's 26 years old, and I'm thinking, you know, I'm an old man.
00:45:14.800 -->
00:45:17.039But uh those things lay on you.
00:45:17.199 -->
00:45:18.559Uh you're not that old.
00:45:18.719 -->
00:45:35.360Come on, but it's something nobody should go through because three o'clock in the morning I'm asleep at work and my phone starts ringing, and you see dad pop up, and you're like, that's not good.
00:45:35.679 -->
00:45:39.840And the first thing he says is, Come get your pa right now.
00:45:40.639 -->
00:45:41.519I said, What's wrong?
00:45:41.679 -->
00:45:46.880And he said, His oxygen levels are critically low, and you need to come out here.
00:45:47.440 -->
00:45:56.320So, you know, I mean that's and then the the the deal with with Travis, I know exactly I mean, we went through that, and you think, man, what could I have done differently?
00:45:56.880 -->
00:46:12.480You know Should uh you know all the missed opportunities of calling and the the what you know when we was patrolling together and the going over to this house, watching football games to you know, we got our family started getting you know older and we you know life happens.
00:46:12.719 -->
00:46:13.280Life happens.
00:46:13.679 -->
00:46:14.320Absolutely.
00:46:14.639 -->
00:46:19.199Go from being buddies all the time to just work buddies when you're working together and you're like, man.
00:46:19.679 -->
00:46:31.280You know, you feel what missed opportunities about you miss a lot of those things, but but we have to dwell on the good times that we had, not right, not the missed opportunities, but we hope to fix those with other people.
00:46:31.440 -->
00:46:31.760Yeah.
00:46:31.920 -->
00:46:33.440And that's that's where we're at.
00:46:33.519 -->
00:46:38.000And and you know, Dylan, you mentioned the the faith.
00:46:38.079 -->
00:46:42.719Um the faith side of it is something that a lot of hard shell people just don't want to deal with, right?
00:46:42.880 -->
00:46:54.239I mean, we again we put up those barriers and you don't want to seem weak or whatever, but uh I'll be honest, uh, I don't know how anybody without faith could have made it through some of these things that we've made it through.
00:46:54.880 -->
00:46:59.679We joke a lot and say that you know there's some things that only me and Jesus know, but I mean that's true.
00:46:59.920 -->
00:47:00.320That's very true.
00:47:00.559 -->
00:47:01.840That's truly true, you know.
00:47:02.159 -->
00:47:13.920And and you hope that you have that close enough relationship to get that peace and comfort because otherwise I I I'm not strong enough, I'll admit it, to make make it through this old cruel world on my own.
00:47:14.079 -->
00:47:15.760I mean I need help.
00:47:16.079 -->
00:47:16.400Yeah.
00:47:17.679 -->
00:47:37.199I'm just I'm just one of the things I've learned I lost a buddy I was in the Marines with, and then with Travis, and with Logan, with with different people that we we we know that have gone on, is if somebody crosses your mind, reach out.
00:47:37.599 -->
00:47:38.480That's what I've learned.
00:47:38.559 -->
00:47:39.119I will call.
00:47:39.280 -->
00:47:40.320I don't even text anymore.
00:47:40.400 -->
00:47:44.400I'm uh you Dylan knows I'm not a I'm not much a texture because I'm usually riding around.
00:47:44.480 -->
00:47:44.639Yeah.
00:47:44.880 -->
00:47:48.559And I will call if that you know, if I'm like, I need to check on.
00:47:48.880 -->
00:47:55.840And it's I'm like, so if you get random phone calls you cross my mind, and I just I just want to say hello.
00:47:56.159 -->
00:47:59.840But you don't know you don't know what put that thought in your mind, you know.
00:48:00.320 -->
00:48:01.679And that's that's the thing, Spook.
00:48:01.920 -->
00:48:07.280Because I I too too many missed opportunities to call my buddy Todd, you know.
00:48:07.360 -->
00:48:10.719I'm like, you know, it crossed my mind, I didn't call Todd.
00:48:10.800 -->
00:48:12.159It's close to the Marine Corps birthday.
00:48:12.239 -->
00:48:14.239I need to give him a shout or something, and then not.
00:48:14.400 -->
00:48:17.599And then you get a weird phone call from Flint, Michigan.
00:48:17.679 -->
00:48:18.800You're like, I better take that.
00:48:18.880 -->
00:48:20.079That's because that's where you live.
00:48:20.480 -->
00:48:28.000And then you know, his sister's like, hey, he got killed in a car wreck, and I'm like, ah I mean that one you know, and we only knew it's weird.
00:48:28.239 -->
00:48:29.280Knew each other.
00:48:29.679 -->
00:48:32.239We'll we lived together for about two and a half years is it.
00:48:33.280 -->
00:48:34.880But lifelong friend.
00:48:35.039 -->
00:48:37.119You know, it's just something that's brotherhood.
00:48:37.280 -->
00:48:44.559Yeah, it is in in states and mileage and distance does not you know once that brotherhood's made, it's there.
00:48:45.519 -->
00:48:51.440I was in Canada last week and uh at a firefighter conference.
00:48:51.599 -->
00:48:56.960Um and uh part of my job I'm the the state training director for the fire service.
00:48:57.360 -->
00:49:10.159And um this conference was you know, the 50 states, there's 49 uh participating states, and then uh we have membership from I think five of the 13 provinces in Canada.
00:49:10.400 -->
00:49:16.719And so several of those people were there, but you know, we see each other maybe twice a year.
00:49:17.039 -->
00:49:27.039You know, we talk or we do a a Zoom meeting once a month or something, and it's a lot of the same stuff, but there was a lot of hugs exchanged before we left, you know.
00:49:27.119 -->
00:49:28.639I mean, and that's that's what you do.
00:49:28.719 -->
00:49:38.480That's it's that it's that family that's not blood that you have, and those are the things that, like you said, when you think about those people, you gotta reach out to them.
00:49:39.039 -->
00:49:43.440Uh it's a common bond that brings you together, and and it's so important.
00:49:43.760 -->
00:49:45.119I know what you got now.
00:49:45.199 -->
00:49:46.559I'm gonna switch gears just a second.
00:49:46.719 -->
00:49:47.119Let's go.
00:49:47.679 -->
00:49:49.840The fire, you remember me and you had to do this.
00:49:50.159 -->
00:49:51.440I went up with Buddy Blair.
00:49:51.760 -->
00:49:58.639Well, they had it at the model, at model, some not model, some magnet school in Lexington.
00:49:59.199 -->
00:50:04.880They had this fire show, like with this training from I I think I think it was y'all's organization.
00:50:05.280 -->
00:50:06.000The state fire school.
00:50:06.480 -->
00:50:07.119We had the guard though.
00:50:07.280 -->
00:50:12.480Yeah, we had the guard that contracted out, and we was up there guarding, and me and Buddy was out there all night long.
00:50:14.079 -->
00:50:17.440That was a billing goes, and it wasn't quite the same night for real.
00:50:17.840 -->
00:50:18.000No.
00:50:18.800 -->
00:50:27.760So I'm sitting there and I'm I'm in their little L4 car, and this is an armed, you know, dude, because there's four six hours worth of equipment.
00:50:28.159 -->
00:50:29.199It's not a real good neighborhood.
00:50:29.440 -->
00:50:30.480No, it's a terrible neighborhood.
00:50:30.880 -->
00:50:32.079I know that's going to be a good thing.
00:50:32.239 -->
00:50:35.280But it was me and Buddy, so we we had we had two good engines.
00:50:36.639 -->
00:50:37.760I'm sitting here by myself.
00:50:37.840 -->
00:50:41.440It's like, you know, dark for me, whatever, whatever time it was.
00:50:41.599 -->
00:50:45.760I've got the windows down, the lights are off, I'm just, you know, watching my YouTube, you know.
00:50:46.000 -->
00:50:48.239So there I see a car comes by.
00:50:48.400 -->
00:50:50.159I said, huh, well, that's odd.
00:50:50.400 -->
00:50:53.679And then it comes back by and turns down the lane.
00:50:53.840 -->
00:50:58.639Well, I'm backed in to a dead end right next to the to the dumpsters.
00:50:58.880 -->
00:51:03.280So it keeps coming, keeps coming, keeps coming, and noses right up to me.
00:51:03.519 -->
00:51:05.280I can't see because their lights are on.
00:51:05.360 -->
00:51:08.880I can't see how you know how many times it's occupied or anything or who's in it.
00:51:09.119 -->
00:51:13.199And at this point, you're you're policing goes in the phone with a standard security guy.
00:51:13.519 -->
00:51:15.280I'm like, this is this is odd.
00:51:15.440 -->
00:51:20.079So I so I just sit there and nobody gets out yet.
00:51:20.320 -->
00:51:23.679So I lean out, nothing say, hey.
00:51:24.239 -->
00:51:25.519Nobody says anything.
00:51:25.679 -->
00:51:38.159So I was like, all right, so I just draw down, step out the car, and they so I don't know if they seen that car and thought that you know maybe it'd be something easy to break into with no lights on, but it was I still don't know.
00:51:38.880 -->
00:51:39.920You was about to get robbed.
00:51:40.400 -->
00:51:41.920Yeah, I was about to get kidnapped.
00:51:42.400 -->
00:51:45.280I appreciate your due diligence of protecting assets.
00:51:47.039 -->
00:51:53.840You're one of the I knew that was not a not a real good neighborhood, though.
00:51:54.239 -->
00:52:03.920If you went in bound a little bit into Lexington, I think when we when we actually started talking about iron them, but they said, yeah, this probably should be an iron detail.
00:52:04.559 -->
00:52:04.800Yeah.
00:52:05.360 -->
00:52:05.760Good thing.
00:52:05.920 -->
00:52:07.039It's just not the same.
00:52:07.199 -->
00:52:08.719Now me and Buddy had no problems.
00:52:08.800 -->
00:52:12.480We sit there and walked around and watched you know Netflix.
00:52:13.039 -->
00:52:18.159Now it it very well could have been somebody coming in there to just tell it he and she in over there.
00:52:21.360 -->
00:52:23.199I was like, I ain't taking no chances on this.
00:52:24.000 -->
00:52:25.119But there's some crazy guys.
00:52:26.239 -->
00:52:26.960What's it got?
00:52:27.840 -->
00:52:29.920Oh, Crystal Mantheny coming out of that.
00:52:32.400 -->
00:52:36.000Yeah, that's that's just uh that's you never know what's next.
00:52:36.239 -->
00:52:36.400Yeah.
00:52:37.119 -->
00:52:39.519How long have you been with been with the fire service?
00:52:39.760 -->
00:52:43.519I worked with the fire commission since uh 06 full time.
00:52:43.679 -->
00:52:43.840Yeah.
00:52:44.000 -->
00:52:51.599And then I've been the director since uh well, it's 10 years and uh it'll be 10 years Wednesday that I've been the director.
00:52:51.679 -->
00:52:58.480So uh I joke our main office is in Paris, so I joke with everybody that I commute from London to Paris.
00:52:59.360 -->
00:53:02.800So that's kind of my that's kind of my joke of things.
00:53:03.119 -->
00:53:06.960I'll be talking with Noah and he'll say he's getting ready to go out of town.
00:53:07.039 -->
00:53:11.440I say, well, the traffic will back up here and there because you know I drive it every day.
00:53:11.599 -->
00:53:15.119So those are handy.
00:53:15.360 -->
00:53:17.599Yeah, but it's bad for me.
00:53:17.920 -->
00:53:20.079We know what time not to leave.
00:53:20.639 -->
00:53:30.079Uh if you if you're trying to get to Danville from London, there's only one real good way, and it's you might get behind a tractor.
00:53:30.320 -->
00:53:31.519Yes, or an ometry.
00:53:32.000 -->
00:53:33.360I mean, yeah, you just don't know.
00:53:33.519 -->
00:53:36.719And but so you kinda gotta know you gotta get there before.
00:53:37.280 -->
00:53:43.119There's a there's a five or ten minute window that can make all the difference in the world on those type of commutes, you know.
00:53:43.360 -->
00:53:44.239Uh when you drive.
00:53:44.320 -->
00:53:47.519But uh but you know, driving, you get a lot of time to reflect and think.
00:53:47.679 -->
00:53:49.599And I listen to a lot of podcasts.
00:53:49.920 -->
00:53:51.840Yeah, we're glad to help you on that.
00:53:53.039 -->
00:53:53.920I I do too.
00:53:54.159 -->
00:53:56.480Listen to a lot of podcasts, listen a lot of books now.
00:53:57.199 -->
00:54:01.039I mean, I've I I'm like, I've left listen to every song on the radio, the ones I like.
00:54:01.519 -->
00:54:01.679Yeah.
00:54:02.000 -->
00:54:04.639Uh I have discovered I really like Jackson Brown now.
00:54:04.880 -->
00:54:07.039And I'm like, I didn't know.
00:54:07.920 -->
00:54:08.559You never know.
00:54:08.800 -->
00:54:09.119There you go.
00:54:09.280 -->
00:54:11.440No, it's another trying to we got there, though.
00:54:11.599 -->
00:54:12.719Well, I know you got a lot.
00:54:12.880 -->
00:54:14.960Uh three three pages here.
00:54:15.199 -->
00:54:22.639Uh well, so I joined the Bush Fire Department in 2013 as a junior.
00:54:22.960 -->
00:54:25.840So was it 15 now?
00:54:25.920 -->
00:54:26.159Yeah.
00:54:26.400 -->
00:54:28.239Instead of 14 when I started.
00:54:28.480 -->
00:54:29.119Yep.
00:54:29.360 -->
00:54:34.880Um started in 2013, stayed all the way up until I turned 18.
00:54:35.039 -->
00:54:39.920And uh I was his SRO at the time.
00:54:40.559 -->
00:54:41.679You didn't want me to say old.
00:54:45.039 -->
00:54:48.719Uh so stayed on it.
00:54:48.880 -->
00:54:50.239I'm still on it, Bush.
00:54:50.719 -->
00:54:59.920Uh my first fire department job was part-time at London, not long after I graduated.
00:55:00.480 -->
00:55:03.599And joined the rescue squad about the same time.
00:55:03.920 -->
00:55:06.159No, I even worked part-time at Danville for a little while.
00:55:06.239 -->
00:55:07.280So worked at Danville.
00:55:07.440 -->
00:55:07.519Yeah.
00:55:07.679 -->
00:55:09.199I don't know what to do with all of you.
00:55:09.280 -->
00:55:10.400These London people in Danville.
00:55:10.639 -->
00:55:11.440Hey, they're good to us.
00:55:13.199 -->
00:55:15.119I just wish we could just get a little closer.
00:55:16.880 -->
00:55:36.480We uh and then uh so I joined I went full-time at London in 2019, but due to some politic and stuff, I technically was full-time in 2018 and stayed at London till 2020 full-time.
00:55:36.559 -->
00:55:38.719And then I started EMS.
00:55:39.840 -->
00:55:40.559Been there since.
00:55:40.880 -->
00:55:46.960Was you on the first, you know, when the when London started doing the full-time fire?
00:55:47.199 -->
00:55:48.320Was that was you in that class?
00:55:49.440 -->
00:55:56.880I was uh I think I was a junior or sophomore in high school when uh all them guys got hired for the first shift.
00:55:57.199 -->
00:55:57.760Joey and all them.
00:55:58.000 -->
00:55:58.159Yeah.
00:55:58.320 -->
00:56:01.039But now you were one of the first ones on the third shift, right?
00:56:02.960 -->
00:56:04.400When I got hired, the third one.
00:56:04.719 -->
00:56:14.880They originally they used to have an A and B shift, and then C shift would be well, you can stay the night and run fire calls, which was what I would do.
00:56:15.679 -->
00:56:22.800And four of us got hired, and only two of 'em are still there now.
00:56:24.000 -->
00:56:24.800That happens.
00:56:25.039 -->
00:56:25.599Yeah.
00:56:26.000 -->
00:56:35.119But um just things have changed in the last couple years for good and bad.
00:56:35.760 -->
00:56:36.639But that's everywhere.
00:56:36.960 -->
00:56:37.679But it's different.
00:56:38.480 -->
00:56:45.119With having experience in both fire and EMS, which profession do you prefer?
00:56:47.519 -->
00:56:48.159Neither.
00:56:50.800 -->
00:56:59.519I'm crazy enough that I like EMS better, but I s I can go fight fire all the time if I want to, volunteer-wise.
00:57:00.639 -->
00:57:05.920And some people don't want to do EMS, and I understand why.
00:57:06.239 -->
00:57:08.400Because I've seen on both perspectives.
00:57:09.840 -->
00:57:12.079To me, that's a lot of responsibility, EMS.
00:57:12.159 -->
00:57:17.920I don't know it's something that I would want to do because you're you're responsible for a life at that at that point in time.
00:57:18.079 -->
00:57:19.920I mean, that's that's a lot of responsibility.
00:57:20.480 -->
00:57:26.719I mean, as law enforcement, I'm just responsible for I mean, I can be responsible for lives, but it's not directly.
00:57:30.960 -->
00:57:32.480Somebody get us an ambulance.
00:57:33.039 -->
00:57:33.679Yeah.
00:57:34.159 -->
00:57:37.840And it's like working EMS with you all.
00:57:38.719 -->
00:57:46.559You can hear the I can listen to the P D and SO on my radio and be like, well, uh, that's gonna be incarceratis.
00:57:46.800 -->
00:57:52.239The shoplifter at Walmart or Oh, you would be yeah, you would be surprised how often that happens, but you all know.
00:57:52.320 -->
00:57:56.559I mean, that or the the homeless guy that we've talked into having chest pains.
00:57:57.119 -->
00:58:02.239Yeah, and it seems like if you let Burger King at three o'clock in the morning have chest pains for some reason.
00:58:02.960 -->
00:58:08.159It just so happens that law enforcement got called because he was hanging out because he missed his bus or something.
00:58:08.960 -->
00:58:10.800Then all of a sudden he has chest pains.
00:58:11.039 -->
00:58:11.360Yeah.
00:58:11.679 -->
00:58:13.679Allergic to allergic to brace feeds.
00:58:14.639 -->
00:58:15.440That's yeah.
00:58:15.760 -->
00:58:16.320Happens.
00:58:16.559 -->
00:58:17.199Yeah.
00:58:18.000 -->
00:58:25.039Um when I was working at Danville, we had a fire at one of the plants on the parkway or the bypass.
00:58:26.320 -->
00:58:26.960Yeah.
00:58:27.199 -->
00:58:30.719Uh it was where they printed newspapers or something.
00:58:31.119 -->
00:58:39.599And uh one of the assembly lines, the oil caught on fire, so the whole thing was burning.
00:58:40.000 -->
00:58:48.000And when I was still doing my recruit class, they said they got a big fire down here at one of the plants, and we're going.
00:58:48.079 -->
00:58:50.079So I was like, oh, okay, get there.
00:58:50.159 -->
00:58:52.239And they're like, go in there and relieve them.
00:58:52.480 -->
00:58:52.800All right.
00:58:53.119 -->
00:58:53.519Wow.
00:58:55.280 -->
00:58:56.559I was like, seriously.
00:58:57.360 -->
00:58:58.960That is seriously trial by fire.
00:58:59.760 -->
00:59:02.880I mean the firefighter long, so this is like whoa.
00:59:03.599 -->
00:59:06.000Didn't we just have didn't Bordens just have something?
00:59:06.320 -->
00:59:09.679So I was actually going into work when that happened.
00:59:09.920 -->
00:59:14.960That's always good when you're breaking eight.
00:59:16.239 -->
00:59:23.599So I live off 5th Street, and I'm just a rock throw over the hill to the ambulance service.
00:59:23.760 -->
00:59:25.760So I take my time going to work.
00:59:26.000 -->
00:59:28.719And whoever's listening, you know this.
00:59:30.400 -->
00:59:31.840When you wake up, you're 10 8.
00:59:32.000 -->
00:59:32.400I mean you're right.
00:59:32.719 -->
00:59:34.480He's gonna do his 24 hours, so yeah.
00:59:36.480 -->
00:59:46.880So I was getting ready and my radio went off, and we have the active 911, and my phone starts going nuts, and I was like, oh, it's probably a 46 or something.
00:59:47.039 -->
00:59:53.199Well, I see explosion, and I noticed the address, and I was like, Borden's just blew up.
00:59:53.679 -->
00:59:56.079And everybody's going by signal nine.
00:59:56.239 -->
00:59:59.679Well, I get to work and I start listening to the radio, and they're like, Yeah.
01:00:00.159 -->
01:00:06.559We got about four patients over here burned and we got one that's leg's broke and I'm like what happened?
01:00:06.800 -->
01:00:10.800Well the crews that went didn't come back.
01:00:11.440 -->
01:00:15.199They got exposed to the acid.
01:00:15.840 -->
01:00:16.400Oh no.
01:00:16.639 -->
01:00:17.280Yes.
01:00:17.599 -->
01:00:21.440So there was there was things going on.
01:00:21.679 -->
01:00:33.920Um apparently some contractors were working on some barrels, moving them, and it had acid in it, and some of the chemicals that you don't mix with acid were right next to it.
01:00:34.079 -->
01:00:37.280So one plus one equals explosion.
01:00:38.320 -->
01:00:42.639And I'm glad none of that happened while we were doing their access control.
01:00:44.239 -->
01:00:48.079But that's that just shows you how quickly things can change, you know.
01:00:48.239 -->
01:00:48.639Yeah.
01:00:48.960 -->
01:00:50.239Because what else do you?
01:00:50.320 -->
01:00:51.519I mean, you have growth.
01:00:52.480 -->
01:00:53.119Oh Lord.
01:00:54.880 -->
01:00:56.079So you got the rescue.
01:00:56.239 -->
01:01:01.119I mean, you got I could imagine at 26 years old the closet.
01:01:01.280 -->
01:01:02.239You've had to go a little bit.
01:01:02.480 -->
01:01:02.880Oh man.
01:01:02.960 -->
01:01:04.800So yeah, let's let's get into some.
01:01:05.039 -->
01:01:06.320We've got the background down.
01:01:06.559 -->
01:01:09.519Let's get into some some of the good stuff here.
01:01:09.840 -->
01:01:19.840So before I became a junior, I was with dad, and they patched out a 46 on Tomcat Trail.
01:01:20.000 -->
01:01:26.400So we went to this wreck, not knowing what was going on, pulled up.
01:01:26.639 -->
01:01:30.000There's a guy dead laying outside of this pickup truck.
01:01:30.480 -->
01:01:36.960And come to find out, these two boys have been drinking, been raining, terrible combination.
01:01:37.599 -->
01:01:40.800They ran off the side of the road and one of them had his window down.
01:01:41.039 -->
01:01:45.679He went right out the window and his head made contact with the tree, killed him.
01:01:46.639 -->
01:01:47.519Jeez, OP.
01:01:47.840 -->
01:01:53.280So that was my first experience being old enough to understand it.
01:01:55.920 -->
01:01:56.800No, it was for Bush.
01:01:56.960 -->
01:01:57.440For Bush.
01:01:57.760 -->
01:01:58.400Yeah.
01:01:58.800 -->
01:02:02.400I remember my very first 46 I ever worked.
01:02:02.639 -->
01:02:14.880Because it was weird because I spent this whole time on night shift and uh, you know, training and like I had Josh Gaylor and Mike Holiday and Hoghead were my training, you know, pretty much the whole time.
01:02:14.960 -->
01:02:19.119And somehow I kept avoiding or not getting 46s.
01:02:19.679 -->
01:02:22.000I was like, yeah, I don't know how to work one.
01:02:22.079 -->
01:02:25.119You know, it happens when you don't answer the record.
01:02:26.639 -->
01:02:28.159I was gonna start this one time.
01:02:28.559 -->
01:02:29.119No, no, no, no.
01:02:29.360 -->
01:02:30.239I was like, oh, okay.
01:02:31.360 -->
01:02:36.480But they said uh they were like uh doing my first one was a fatal.
01:02:36.559 -->
01:02:38.480You know, it was uh out there past the middle school.
01:02:38.559 -->
01:02:40.559We went out to help the sheriff's office on.
01:02:40.719 -->
01:02:42.960We was right there at it.
01:02:43.519 -->
01:02:55.519And um I think it was Joe Smith, which was another sergeant, but uh, we went out there and and I started taking all my because they were upside down in the creek, and I was like, I'm not gonna get my leather y'all.
01:02:55.760 -->
01:02:57.360Yeah, I start seeing people just jump in.
01:02:57.760 -->
01:02:59.360I was like, man, I'm such a jerk.
01:03:01.599 -->
01:03:02.880It's like, oh my gosh.
01:03:03.039 -->
01:03:05.519But that was my first one, was a was a fatal.
01:03:05.679 -->
01:03:09.599And um I it's you still see them.
01:03:09.840 -->
01:03:10.239It's weird.
01:03:10.559 -->
01:03:10.880Yeah.
01:03:11.119 -->
01:03:12.800And those are the things that you don't forget.
01:03:13.519 -->
01:03:17.119No, my first extrication was uh fatal.
01:03:17.280 -->
01:03:17.519Yeah.
01:03:17.760 -->
01:03:23.599We had a drunk driver on East 80 go into the wrong lane and hit a coal truck head on.
01:03:23.840 -->
01:03:24.559Oh gosh.
01:03:24.719 -->
01:03:25.280Yeah.
01:03:25.599 -->
01:03:27.760I I I used to get so nervous.
01:03:28.320 -->
01:03:32.480East 80s, them straight stretches and stuff just freaked me out down there.
01:03:32.719 -->
01:03:39.679And I remember I used to deliver packages for FedEx going to going out to Somerset, so West 80.
01:03:40.000 -->
01:03:48.719And about the time I was delivering about that, one of them crossed the trying to pass and hit somebody head on right there, and got split a car in half.
01:03:48.800 -->
01:03:52.719And I'm like, it just freaked me out to drive, you know, that road still.
01:03:52.880 -->
01:04:00.800And I I mean I was I wasn't even involved, never even seen it, but uh, you know, I worked uh I worked a partial decapitation on West 80 early one morning.
01:04:01.119 -->
01:04:04.880I mean, just just the things, you know, those are the things you remember.
01:04:05.119 -->
01:04:05.280Yeah.
01:04:05.440 -->
01:04:08.639It's like Noah standing out here in the parking lot going, I've been to that house.
01:04:09.679 -->
01:04:14.079I mean I was gonna ask you, you know, you're young enough to remember all these calls.
01:04:14.320 -->
01:04:16.400We've we've answered so many I forget them.
01:04:16.880 -->
01:04:32.960But I mean, you can drive from from London up here to East Bernstead, and you can be like, that was a 46 year, I remember this, you know, right here at this intersection at you know 490 and and unfortunately it's you don't get rid of.
01:04:33.039 -->
01:04:37.920I mean, there's there's more places that you remember having a response to than not.
01:04:39.679 -->
01:04:44.480And you know addresses now that they're just burned into your memory.
01:04:44.800 -->
01:04:49.360I can't remember phone numbers anymore, but I know I write spite off certain addresses, you know.
01:04:49.920 -->
01:04:52.079Well that that's what I was telling Travis today.
01:04:52.239 -->
01:04:56.559I said I was a much better officer here because I knew all the stuff, all the little stuff.
01:04:56.800 -->
01:05:01.599Up up where I'm at now, it's kind of like I'm kind of like a ball lost in high weeds.
01:05:01.760 -->
01:05:02.880I just go where they tell me to go.
01:05:02.960 -->
01:05:03.440I don't really know.
01:05:04.159 -->
01:05:09.119Don't you think there's a benefit to not absolutely responding to your community every day?
01:05:10.159 -->
01:05:10.880That's a good point.
01:05:11.199 -->
01:05:12.719Noah talks about all that stuff.
01:05:12.960 -->
01:05:26.559He hogged, you know, he hauled his grandpa, but over there, you can detach detached and completely impartial, and I can hand you know handle a call there a lot differently than I might.
01:05:26.639 -->
01:05:28.639There's things that aren't going on in the back of my head.
01:05:28.719 -->
01:05:34.960Like what's you know I've talked to a lot of what are the political dangers of responders over that, and they they they talk about that.
01:05:35.039 -->
01:05:43.840That there's a lot of difference because you know you mentioned you get called to a car wreck and it's the area you live in, you're thinking the whole way there, is it somebody I know?
01:05:45.039 -->
01:05:45.199Yeah.
01:05:45.360 -->
01:05:51.840When you start checking my three cents, it's Navy or Lexington or wherever, there's a whole lot less likelihood that it's being somebody you know.
01:05:52.159 -->
01:05:53.840It's a lot easier to provide my job.
01:05:54.159 -->
01:05:55.760There's some advantages to that.
01:05:56.079 -->
01:05:56.400Yep.
01:05:56.639 -->
01:05:57.280Yeah.
01:05:58.159 -->
01:05:59.360Let's hear some more.
01:05:59.599 -->
01:06:00.320You got them.
01:06:00.559 -->
01:06:01.360Oh boy.
01:06:01.599 -->
01:06:04.159Um, let me think here.
01:06:05.199 -->
01:06:07.519I got so many calls.
01:06:07.760 -->
01:06:13.280Um, I'm trying trying to keep the bad ones to a minimum.
01:06:13.440 -->
01:06:14.800I'm trying to think of some funny ones.
01:06:15.039 -->
01:06:18.960It's easy for us to remember the bad ones, but it's it's really hard.
01:06:19.119 -->
01:06:24.559Like I was asking people the other day, I was like, do y'all have any funny stories if you're with me?
01:06:25.039 -->
01:06:28.719Well, that's they sound like you've just been had a lot of tragedies.
01:06:29.199 -->
01:06:29.519Oh man.
01:06:29.760 -->
01:06:35.360Luckily, when I first started in the you know, law enforcement, everybody told me they said, keep a journal, keep a journal.
01:06:35.519 -->
01:06:36.400I was like, Well, that's silly.
01:06:36.559 -->
01:06:38.960Well, now I'm kind of glad that I did write some of the stuff down.
01:06:40.000 -->
01:06:41.679I think everybody started a new job show.
01:06:41.840 -->
01:06:42.480Yeah, absolutely.
01:06:42.639 -->
01:06:44.320Keep a journal of crazy stuff to see.
01:06:44.639 -->
01:06:47.119Somebody's like, well, keep a journal though, indict you'll know though.
01:06:48.239 -->
01:06:54.400But really, you you you can write down a couple little things to remind you of of something that happened.
01:06:54.559 -->
01:06:58.079And I wish, and I probably was one that told you, like, hey, make sure you write some stuff down.
01:06:58.320 -->
01:06:59.199Because it's not all bad.
01:07:00.400 -->
01:07:04.239We've talked about some depressing things, but it's not all bad.
01:07:04.320 -->
01:07:19.920Yeah, you the you know, you have those instances where you make a difference, but now I I'm there I was working EMS and carrying a I worked back before we had these electric stretches, you know, when we had to be real people and lift a stretcher.
01:07:20.159 -->
01:07:23.840I went through some of it on both sides.
01:07:23.920 -->
01:07:35.119I mean, I didn't push a button like Noah does, but no, um, we brought an elderly lady out of her house and her pig started chasing us and snapping at us.
01:07:41.519 -->
01:07:48.320Um people make reference that to law enforcement, but no, this was a porky pig, Wilbur pig, you know.
01:07:48.559 -->
01:07:57.760Uh it was a potbelly pig, and he was very, very upset that we were taking Granny or whoever she was to the to the ambulance, you know.
01:07:57.840 -->
01:08:02.719And I mean, man, that pig, he was snapping the whole way at us, and I'm like, what do you do?
01:08:02.960 -->
01:08:04.719You can't take the person's pig.
01:08:05.280 -->
01:08:13.599You know, I mean, that's you know, you're like the very first ever attack pick.
01:08:14.719 -->
01:08:17.439Apparently they're good uh guard dogs or whatever.
01:08:17.920 -->
01:08:19.840You know, I've been bit by dogs.
01:08:19.920 -->
01:08:23.279I got bit by a dog off North Hill Street one day.
01:08:24.079 -->
01:08:37.119I I realized it was chained, but I underestimated the distance of the chain, the length of the chain to where I was standing, and it snapped and got me twice, but luckily it grabbed my pants and my wallet.
01:08:37.199 -->
01:08:41.119So there's nothing worse than going up trying to help somebody.
01:08:41.199 -->
01:08:51.119And I did a lot of home visits for the school system, and you go up and you'd be like, Man, and the principal or whoever be like, well, we we gotta go get this kid, he's not been schooled.
01:08:51.279 -->
01:08:53.600I'm like, I don't, that's not my problem.
01:08:54.079 -->
01:08:55.840That sounds like a different problem to me.
01:08:56.079 -->
01:08:59.119Yeah, and sure enough, they always have some kind of vicious dog.
01:08:59.199 -->
01:08:59.920Oh, yeah.
01:09:00.159 -->
01:09:10.640And for whatever reason, they they must just smell bacon on the cop because they're they running, you know, the principal gets out and the dogs right there, and they come right over to me.
01:09:10.960 -->
01:09:11.920I can't even get out of my.
01:09:12.079 -->
01:09:13.680It's like, you're on the wrong.
01:09:14.720 -->
01:09:14.960Good luck.
01:09:15.680 -->
01:09:16.479I'll guard you out.
01:09:16.720 -->
01:09:18.560You don't know what to expect on that.
01:09:19.119 -->
01:09:36.319It's every, it seems like every call that I went on on a home visit, like a well check or something like that, with students not showing up school or sick or whether they're trying to get get a hold of a parent, there was always some kind of crazy dog up some holler that I'd never even heard of.
01:09:37.199 -->
01:09:38.399And I was surprised.
01:09:38.560 -->
01:09:44.000You all you all probably know this more, but there's a lot of homestead stuff in Laurel County.
01:09:44.159 -->
01:09:46.000I was very shocked on that.
01:09:46.239 -->
01:09:49.359And I I just thought maybe I live in the city too much.
01:09:49.680 -->
01:09:52.640Noah's in Noah's in those homes more now than I.
01:09:53.279 -->
01:09:58.159They got these camps and stuff, these homesteading places now that they just live off the land.
01:09:58.479 -->
01:09:58.880Yes.
01:09:59.119 -->
01:09:59.279Yeah.
01:09:59.600 -->
01:10:00.079It's crazy.
01:10:00.319 -->
01:10:12.720And then the I guess working EMS, you realize how lucky you have it because you have a home that isn't falling in, or and some people choose to live that way.
01:10:13.359 -->
01:10:18.479You know, and I mean, I always thought garbage went in a garbage can.
01:10:19.039 -->
01:10:19.119Right.
01:10:19.359 -->
01:10:26.960They not just everywhere in the house, and some of these homes that we go into are just a walking path cut through them and it just smells.
01:10:27.119 -->
01:10:27.439I mean, man.
01:10:28.000 -->
01:10:31.359Uncle Mike says cleaning is free.
01:10:31.520 -->
01:10:36.319There is nothing expensive about going up and picking your trash up out of the yard.
01:10:36.560 -->
01:10:37.359It's it's easy.
01:10:37.600 -->
01:10:39.119It's like taking a bath, man.
01:10:39.199 -->
01:10:40.159It rains every so often.
01:10:40.720 -->
01:10:42.000Stand out in the rain or something.
01:10:42.079 -->
01:10:43.840I mean, wash yourself.
01:10:44.560 -->
01:10:53.279I've been in houses with dirt floors, and the kids be sitting in the dirt playing with their matchbox cars, and you're like, and granny over there sweeping the dirt.
01:10:53.600 -->
01:11:04.800I've I've served search warrants in houses that had snakes inside from the dirt dirt, you know, just open stuff, and they'd come right in there in the closets, you're digging stuff, and you're like, oh my gosh.
01:11:05.119 -->
01:11:06.640Yeah, it might have been done.
01:11:06.800 -->
01:11:09.840You remember when you remember Jerry's restaurant, right?
01:11:10.239 -->
01:11:11.119Love that place.
01:11:11.279 -->
01:11:13.840Right before they're in the parish, by the way.
01:11:14.000 -->
01:11:14.319Oh.
01:11:17.520 -->
01:11:18.239I knew.
01:11:18.800 -->
01:11:19.920Is it French food there?
01:11:20.319 -->
01:11:22.479It's it's it's like French fry.
01:11:24.960 -->
01:11:32.560So the like right as that place was closing up, they were going to, you know, everybody knew it, nobody really going there.
01:11:32.720 -->
01:11:39.199And they call it like, hey, we got we got snakes underneath the like in the front lobby.
01:11:39.359 -->
01:11:41.359There they had like a machine or something.
01:11:41.600 -->
01:11:45.520I was like, you called, you have called the wrong person for this.
01:11:46.079 -->
01:11:48.720I was like, I will shoot them.
01:11:52.319 -->
01:11:53.439I was so I was like, I'm out.
01:11:54.239 -->
01:11:54.479Yeah.
01:11:54.640 -->
01:11:55.680I'm out on that.
01:11:56.000 -->
01:12:03.279But I've seen, you know, I was telling this guy was like, I I work with, and he's a school teacher and great guy.
01:12:03.520 -->
01:12:12.479And he was driving, he's man, it's he said, I was helping this guy out tired, you know, and he was like, let me go get you some money.
01:12:12.560 -->
01:12:14.000He said, No, I'll just help you out.
01:12:14.079 -->
01:12:19.359And and um he said, I got this huge basket for Christmas from that guy.
01:12:19.439 -->
01:12:21.520He's some kind of doctor didn't know how to change a tire.
01:12:21.600 -->
01:12:24.079I said, You know how many tires I've changed and never.
01:12:24.640 -->
01:12:25.760Never got anything after.
01:12:26.079 -->
01:12:27.760I was being a little like, yeah, good.
01:12:28.159 -->
01:12:28.319Okay.
01:12:28.720 -->
01:12:39.760But I was I was like, You know how many how many houses we've been in, got calls to, and just to turn the thermostat over from cold to heat, or run possums and raccoons and stuff.
01:12:39.840 -->
01:12:43.600And and and those are the I'd I love going to those calls.
01:12:43.760 -->
01:12:46.079I don't mind that a bit to help out our community.
01:12:46.560 -->
01:12:56.000The elderly that don't, you know, they're just the people that won't take care of themselves or that wants to help anymore that put that bitterness in your life.
01:12:56.319 -->
01:12:58.079You know, that bitter taste, so to speak.
01:12:58.319 -->
01:12:58.479Yeah.
01:12:58.640 -->
01:13:05.199And I think I got a lot of that back in the early 2000s, right after Noah was born, uh, cleaning up meth labs.
01:13:05.279 -->
01:13:05.359Yeah.
01:13:05.520 -->
01:13:06.239When O started.
01:13:06.479 -->
01:13:06.720Yeah.
01:13:07.039 -->
01:13:08.640I just some of the things.
01:13:08.720 -->
01:13:12.399I mean Well, that changed this whole It changed the world.
01:13:12.560 -->
01:13:12.960Yeah.
01:13:13.279 -->
01:13:15.279Noah don't know life without that.
01:13:15.520 -->
01:13:17.039Dylan barely does, you know.
01:13:17.520 -->
01:13:19.920Uh and here we went through that stuff.
01:13:20.000 -->
01:13:22.159I mean, it was that was unreal.
01:13:22.319 -->
01:13:26.159Uh, the changes in the the evolution of the people.
01:13:26.479 -->
01:13:35.119When we were young men, you know, high school age, if somebody smoked a little weed or you know, did a you know, took a pill or something.
01:13:35.359 -->
01:13:37.199When I went to high school, there was a smoke in the area.
01:13:37.680 -->
01:13:38.239Yeah.
01:13:38.479 -->
01:13:40.079But with the bad ass was.
01:13:40.479 -->
01:13:41.520We thought they were rebels, man.
01:13:41.760 -->
01:13:42.239We had smoke.
01:13:42.720 -->
01:13:43.279They were bad people.
01:13:43.520 -->
01:13:47.279Yeah, you know, dad, you you don't hang out with them, you know.
01:13:47.520 -->
01:13:51.279Um, but just the the way our world just it's fallen.
01:13:51.520 -->
01:13:59.039We're it's a fallen world and it's gonna get, you know, without without Jesus, without our faith, it's just gonna it's gonna continue to get bad.
01:13:59.279 -->
01:14:07.199We just got you're you're you know, Noah, you're we're telling you a lot of stories tonight as much as anything.
01:14:07.359 -->
01:14:08.880Just guard your heart.
01:14:09.199 -->
01:14:20.960I became such a cynical person, so bitter, because you know, you'd stop somebody and they'd be a deacon, somebody you knew, some church going guy, and you just man, I was so mad.
01:14:21.039 -->
01:14:30.800I was like, there is no you know, I remember thinking it, you're like, ah, these people are just this whole town, and you know, and just this bitterness that came over me.
01:14:31.119 -->
01:14:56.079I remember being broken, like, you know, I've if I'm going to do this, I've either got to just learn how to love people and know that everybody's got problems because a lot of that inward, like I've obviously got some problems too that people, you know, so just know that that hey, and you've done it in that five, I mean ten years already, ten, twelve, fourteen years already.
01:14:56.479 -->
01:15:05.039But still, I'm like 26 is young, and you're gonna go the ups and downs and the ebbs and flows with with first responding.
01:15:05.520 -->
01:15:12.640Um ride those ways, but remember that it can take you right down under, so be careful.
01:15:12.880 -->
01:15:18.239And it's like what they always taught us in training, it's not your emergency, it's theirs.
01:15:18.399 -->
01:15:18.640Yeah.
01:15:18.880 -->
01:15:20.960So always understand that.
01:15:21.199 -->
01:15:36.800And luckily, me being senior enough now, telling all these new people, treat them, treat your patient or whoever you come in contact with like they're your grandma or your grandpa or your family.
01:15:36.960 -->
01:15:37.279Yeah.
01:15:38.399 -->
01:15:39.439That's a great attitude to have.
01:15:39.840 -->
01:15:50.399And that that brings up a good point, because I hate I hate dealing with like crisis, like CIT type stuff, like your your mental calls and things like that.
01:15:50.640 -->
01:15:52.159I absolutely hate them.
01:15:52.640 -->
01:15:59.840And uh I was talking to to mom, you know, Vent and being like, Man, they've got because Danville's got a lot of that going on.
01:15:59.920 -->
01:16:04.399I was like, man, that's the worst, you know, doing MDOs and transports and stuff like that.
01:16:04.640 -->
01:16:07.760Well, my grandma suffered from the same thing.
01:16:07.840 -->
01:16:11.359She was bipolar and she had to be transported once.
01:16:11.439 -->
01:16:15.680And and mom was like, Well, you know, you brought that up, treat them like you're they're your grandma.
01:16:15.760 -->
01:16:33.920And she's like, Why don't you keep that mentality and treat them as like and that's kind of changed my okay, well, you know, if they get the help, because after she was transported, it took getting to that rock bottom for her to get the help that she needed and be, you know, mental health warrant and all that, get transported.
01:16:34.079 -->
01:16:36.079And then after that, good as gold.
01:16:36.239 -->
01:16:39.840But before that, so I mean, you gotta keep that mentality.
01:16:40.000 -->
01:16:43.520We get it's easy to get jaded and not not see that that side of that.
01:16:43.760 -->
01:16:44.960Yeah, I'm sure you've already been.
01:16:45.520 -->
01:16:51.039The difference I think that I didn't have that.
01:16:52.560 -->
01:17:10.880My father's a pastor and love him, but we I don't want to say we're different sides of the thing, but I was dealing, you know, he was dealing with way probably worse things as far as p humanity too, and I think I just didn't relate those together and see mine as a mission as well.
01:17:12.159 -->
01:17:20.239So I was just like I'm the PK, I'm a preacher's kid, and this, you know, and I was just like, why am I why am I so mad?
01:17:20.319 -->
01:17:26.399You know, I go to try to go to church and fake it and stuff, then all of a sudden, man, that he preached something and it broke me.
01:17:26.479 -->
01:17:30.159And I was like, oh no, just like Dan's thing, I was like, man, I needed to hear that too.
01:17:30.239 -->
01:17:31.760And a lot of people need to hear that.
01:17:31.920 -->
01:17:39.359But I was like, How do we get past, how do you get past hurt and anger?
01:17:39.600 -->
01:17:45.920And you don't, you don't really, you're always gonna be set up for some kind of f fall or somebody's gonna hurt you.
01:17:46.079 -->
01:18:01.119It's how we deal with with our internal and how we can cope with with our own lack, you know, our own shortcomings is what helps us all be better in our jobs.
01:18:01.600 -->
01:18:03.039Um yeah.
01:18:03.359 -->
01:18:10.560You know, Noah, when I worked EMS, we would uh generally work a few calls a day or whatever.
01:18:10.720 -->
01:18:12.720No, they work a few calls an hour.
01:18:13.039 -->
01:18:13.600You know what I mean?
01:18:13.920 -->
01:18:14.159Yeah.
01:18:14.640 -->
01:18:19.840They you know, they'll have 12,000 or 13,000 runs this year.
01:18:20.399 -->
01:18:24.720And uh I remember when we had like 6,000 or 8,000.
01:18:24.800 -->
01:18:44.960I mean, you know, I'm dating myself, but still you've got to have that time to unwind a little and and but every call, you know, Alan Brunicini was the chief of fe uh Phoenix Fire Department, and he kind of started a lot of the incident command stuff and all that, but but he he talked about the neighbor, Mrs.
01:18:45.119 -->
01:18:45.760Smith.
01:18:46.880 -->
01:18:51.520And he he put a customer service model into the fire service.
01:18:52.079 -->
01:18:57.840He's been gone a few years, but that is still talked about today, and a lot of his speeches are still out there.
01:18:58.159 -->
01:19:00.079That when Mrs.
01:19:00.159 -->
01:19:03.760Smith calls for help, it's her worst day of her life.
01:19:04.000 -->
01:19:04.239Right.
01:19:04.880 -->
01:19:07.439And you have to remember that when you go.
01:19:07.680 -->
01:19:08.720Man, that's hard.
01:19:08.960 -->
01:19:10.479It is so hard.
01:19:10.720 -->
01:19:12.000I think he was in Books class.
01:19:12.239 -->
01:19:14.960It great when 300 or whatever.
01:19:15.439 -->
01:19:15.920ICS.
01:19:16.640 -->
01:19:17.520I was in ICS.
01:19:17.600 -->
01:19:17.760Yeah.
01:19:17.920 -->
01:19:19.199And he was talking about that.
01:19:19.359 -->
01:19:19.600Yep.
01:19:20.079 -->
01:19:20.319Mrs.
01:19:20.479 -->
01:19:20.800Smith.
01:19:21.199 -->
01:19:21.439Mrs.
01:19:21.600 -->
01:19:22.800Smith still moves on today.
01:19:25.279 -->
01:19:28.479Yeah, I was in uh Broad, uh, what's it called?
01:19:28.800 -->
01:19:30.399Baldrock or something, way down there.
01:19:30.479 -->
01:19:32.239That's where I did mine, one of them.
01:19:32.560 -->
01:19:34.319But it's it's it's that Mrs.
01:19:34.479 -->
01:19:39.760Smith was his personal the worst day of their life is when they call.
01:19:40.000 -->
01:19:41.439And to us it's not.
01:19:41.840 -->
01:19:46.800But it's so hard because we put up those barriers where we become so bitter.
01:19:47.039 -->
01:19:55.199Uh, but you know, Noah, Noah's 26, but he's telling people that are coming into the service now that are his rookie or whatever.
01:19:55.520 -->
01:19:56.560Don't forget that.
01:19:56.640 -->
01:19:58.720You know, uh that is so hard.
01:19:59.039 -->
01:20:13.279It's hard to, you know, the difference, I think, what I was gonna say, you know, part of what with dad is there was just you know a different relate relating with what I did for a living, what he did.
01:20:13.359 -->
01:20:15.680Once I mesh them together, it was different.
01:20:15.840 -->
01:20:19.920Like, oh, you're you're at the bad side of human humanity too.
01:20:20.159 -->
01:20:39.680But you uh you already know what your father has done, and your grandfather and your mother and your your aunt and your I mean there's all kinds of things that that um that you can rely on and you're already probably supervising and doing things, you know, running it won't be long.
01:20:42.159 -->
01:20:43.119Mentoring, I guess.
01:20:43.520 -->
01:20:55.199Like that's the and that to me is if you can fall back and you have somebody to you're you know, you're kind of a legacy type in this field.
01:20:55.439 -->
01:21:00.560So if you can learn from ER, if you can learn from you know all these things, don't forget them.
01:21:01.920 -->
01:21:09.920Even though old school stuff, the way you're the way they treated people will always relate to the in the future.
01:21:10.079 -->
01:21:14.479So I think that's a great great way to be and look at things.
01:21:14.800 -->
01:21:19.600It's like every time I have a bad call, you get a phone call or a text, you and mom.
01:21:19.920 -->
01:21:27.760Yep, and occasionally I would call Pa, ER, and he'd be like, Yeah, I heard you had a rough day today.
01:21:27.840 -->
01:21:28.319Yeah.
01:21:28.800 -->
01:21:29.520You okay?
01:21:29.760 -->
01:21:31.359Yeah, I'm doing all right.
01:21:31.760 -->
01:21:33.359You gotta have a sounding board.
01:21:33.520 -->
01:21:43.439I mean, you gotta have some somebody, I mean, whether it be a a fellow first responder, you know, somebody that you can just go and be like, let me tell you about this.
01:21:43.600 -->
01:21:48.079And then they know and they're not gonna sit there and try and go, oh my gosh, or they're gonna, you know.
01:21:48.960 -->
01:21:50.640A lot of times like, that ain't nothing.
01:21:51.119 -->
01:21:51.279Yeah.
01:21:51.439 -->
01:21:52.159Let me tell you about this.
01:21:52.399 -->
01:21:53.920Then you start one-up and each other.
01:21:54.560 -->
01:22:07.840You know But I I made the comment on May the 17th uh of this year that you know, my job's to train first responders and to see that they have appropriate training all over the state.
01:22:08.079 -->
01:22:16.880There was no level of training at all that ever prepared me for what that night and day was to bring.
01:22:17.199 -->
01:22:26.079Um there we you just don't prepare for a tornado to go through a one of the most dense subdivisions.
01:22:26.239 -->
01:22:35.279Uh, you know, and and I'm on I was over by the airport, Noah was in Sunshine Hills, and that's as a father, that was a terrible feeling.
01:22:35.680 -->
01:22:46.640You know, I was there doing things I needed to be doing, but knowing that your son is on another end of this same he's doing what he had to do, and he's you're you know what you're seeing.
01:22:46.720 -->
01:22:48.960Yeah, and you know he's seeing that and worse.
01:22:49.199 -->
01:22:49.520Yep.
01:22:49.680 -->
01:22:57.840And then, you know, that morning, um as the sun started coming up, I had stayed over and off Court Road that whole night in the airport area.
01:22:58.000 -->
01:23:04.079And as the sun started coming up, I got in my truck and I thought I'm going over to the to that side to a command post.
01:23:04.239 -->
01:23:05.600There was at Wine Pine.
01:23:06.319 -->
01:23:09.520And uh I didn't realize how bad I looked at that point.
01:23:09.680 -->
01:23:16.319I mean, I was soaking wet and mud up to my waist, and you know, I mean, just from what all we had been going through that night.
01:23:16.560 -->
01:23:22.319And uh it it was a pretty good feeling for me to look over and see him over there, you know.
01:23:22.960 -->
01:23:26.079And then other people as as certain ones had come in.
01:23:26.640 -->
01:23:33.760Um we mentioned Booger when we heard Booger on the radio that night, but when he walked in that school, you just wanted to walk over and give him a bitch a hug.
01:23:33.840 -->
01:23:38.000I mean, because um we had all made a difference that night.
01:23:38.159 -->
01:23:58.079And that's that's as bad as that was, and as terrible as it was for the people that lost their homes and their families, as a first responder, what we pulled off that night, as I say we as a team, what everybody, and trust me, we saw things that you just can't imagine.
01:23:58.319 -->
01:24:13.680But what we were able to pull off that night, and the lives that were probably saved, by the time the the trained, more heavily trained and equipped crews got in there and started taking off, there was no more rescues.
01:24:13.840 -->
01:24:15.840Those people had already been found through the night.
01:24:16.399 -->
01:24:24.960I mean, it was a team effort of police and fire and EMS and citizens, uh, just in general, that what went on that night was amazing.
01:24:25.039 -->
01:24:36.239But those are times that, you know, Noah said he'd call me or other and text, but that night it was just like I we talked a couple of times through the night when we tried phone service, you know.
01:24:36.960 -->
01:24:38.880It's like, hey, you all right, what's going on?
01:24:39.199 -->
01:24:40.560I've never seen anything.
01:24:42.000 -->
01:24:49.520Let's talk about the tornado because we haven't yet on this, and it's a good uh I mean, what you can, what you feel like doing.
01:24:49.760 -->
01:24:51.439But I I'll tell you this.
01:24:51.680 -->
01:24:53.520It's good to talk about stuff like this.
01:24:54.319 -->
01:24:59.359In 20 all right, so at on that day, May 16th, right?
01:24:59.439 -->
01:25:00.640It's the day of the tornado.
01:25:01.680 -->
01:25:03.119We're I'm sitting there.
01:25:03.520 -->
01:25:08.640There's a huge front at about what one o'clock that day, 12 30.
01:25:08.720 -->
01:25:11.119There was a there was a big storm that came through.
01:25:11.439 -->
01:25:13.359There was a storm that had come through first.
01:25:13.840 -->
01:25:14.079Yeah.
01:25:14.399 -->
01:25:16.079I had gotten off work that morning.
01:25:16.319 -->
01:25:20.079It had blown down a tree over by my house on a property owner.
01:25:20.239 -->
01:25:22.880You all probably was over there, the one that went across Whitley Street.
01:25:23.359 -->
01:25:24.319Yeah, I remember that.
01:25:24.640 -->
01:25:24.880Right.
01:25:25.119 -->
01:25:40.399So we were I was asleep, just worked my 24-hour shift the day before, and they paged um damage to um a white lily or something like that, where Lowe's used to be.
01:25:40.800 -->
01:25:41.039Yeah.
01:25:41.279 -->
01:25:53.439So the whole roof on one section got blown off into the parking lot, the back parking lot, and I went to it, and some of them were talking, hey, this ain't the worst yet.
01:25:53.520 -->
01:25:54.960They said I couldn't believe it.
01:25:55.279 -->
01:25:56.960Tonight it's gonna be worse.
01:25:57.359 -->
01:25:58.479It was bad enough, earlier.
01:25:58.880 -->
01:26:04.800That that that I thought they were because that tree that fell over and then it blew that roof off.
01:26:05.279 -->
01:26:09.680There I was down at Johnson Elementary, and I've never heard anything like that.
01:26:09.760 -->
01:26:12.720You're like, ooh, that was scary.
01:26:12.960 -->
01:26:23.039And then when well they were over there on that crew cutting up that tree trying to get that line across, and they were like, Well, be careful, it's kind of at about 10 or 11 tonight, it's gonna get worse.
01:26:23.760 -->
01:26:24.800I was like, huh.
01:26:25.119 -->
01:26:36.560So typically, if we hear bad weather at the rescue squad, we kind of hang around the building, just you know, pre-planting and everything.
01:26:37.760 -->
01:26:44.159So that night dad called me and he was like, hey, um, turn on Ryan Hall.
01:26:44.319 -->
01:26:51.199And for all you people that don't know, the Ryan Hall, y'all, is probably one of the best weather people to watch.
01:26:52.560 -->
01:26:53.840Yeah, it's a popular.
01:26:54.079 -->
01:26:54.399Yeah.
01:26:54.960 -->
01:27:03.680And I'd watched tornadoes, what was it, a couple days before that in Arkansas and Tennessee and all that.
01:27:03.920 -->
01:27:04.960Missouri, yeah.
01:27:06.000 -->
01:27:11.840And the way he was acting, we were kind of like, ooh, this ain't gonna be good.
01:27:12.159 -->
01:27:18.960And me being me, you know, I've always wanted to work a tornado because, you know, you don't really get to work a massive.
01:27:19.279 -->
01:27:20.479Twister's one of your favorite movies.
01:27:20.800 -->
01:27:22.960Yeah, I'd love that movie any day.
01:27:24.319 -->
01:27:35.359But we were sitting around the rescue squad and there was people coming in with their families that night, and you could tell just the way it felt that night.
01:27:35.520 -->
01:27:38.079I don't know, I can't I can't describe it.
01:27:38.560 -->
01:27:43.920You just had this uneasy feeling and you knew something was coming.
01:27:44.319 -->
01:27:57.279Well, quarter till eleven, we heard on post um a trooper say he is looking at a very large violent tornado on the ground in Russell County, Pulaski County.
01:27:58.560 -->
01:27:58.880Yeah.
01:27:59.119 -->
01:28:01.520So he was like, that ain't good.
01:28:02.079 -->
01:28:07.760And you could hear another trooper, he's like, London, get us help.
01:28:08.079 -->
01:28:12.800There is way too much damage for us to be able to handle it by ourselves.
01:28:13.600 -->
01:28:18.319And not many people knew that it was coming towards London.
01:28:18.720 -->
01:28:23.520Who would think it was gonna stay on the ground for 50-something miles, you know, in Australia?
01:28:24.800 -->
01:28:24.880Yeah.
01:28:25.279 -->
01:28:28.720Well, we're at, you gotta go uphill to get to London.
01:28:29.600 -->
01:28:35.359I mean, it's we're what around two fifteen hundred feet above twelve hundred or so.
01:28:35.520 -->
01:28:36.000Yes, yeah.
01:28:36.560 -->
01:28:37.199Yeah.
01:28:37.920 -->
01:28:45.840But just the way that they were talking on post post channel, that you could tell it was bad.
01:28:46.239 -->
01:28:53.840And me and one of the guys, we went and just stocked up on drinks, you know, because we knew it was gonna be a long night.
01:28:54.000 -->
01:28:56.319Just if it came, it came.
01:28:56.479 -->
01:28:58.000If it didn't, it didn't.
01:28:58.479 -->
01:29:02.720And dad called me and he was like, Hey, you all need to get ready.
01:29:02.800 -->
01:29:03.840I said, How bad is it?
01:29:03.920 -->
01:29:05.119He says, It's coming.
01:29:05.520 -->
01:29:07.439They they say it's not letting up.
01:29:07.920 -->
01:29:09.439Is this when it hit Somerset by the night?
01:29:12.800 -->
01:29:16.960When it went through the forest, it was about it actually was a mile wide.
01:29:17.039 -->
01:29:17.199Yeah.
01:29:18.159 -->
01:29:26.800And we were at the squad, and we had the haunted house, you know, the rent house that we had.
01:29:28.000 -->
01:29:29.119We had the basement.
01:29:29.359 -->
01:29:37.199And John Allen was like, hey, if y'all need to come to my house, come to the house and get in the basement.
01:29:38.000 -->
01:29:42.000So John went with Drew Allen, his son.
01:29:42.159 -->
01:29:46.319They went and checked everything and made sure the families were alright.
01:29:46.960 -->
01:29:54.079And about eleven o'clock, that's when it started getting real bad in London.
01:29:54.239 -->
01:29:55.840The lightning, the thunder.
01:29:56.479 -->
01:29:59.359It wasn't it rained pretty bad for a while.
01:29:59.600 -->
01:30:04.239And And I'd say about eleven twenty it just stopped.
01:30:04.399 -->
01:30:04.720Yep.
01:30:05.039 -->
01:30:07.600It just sucked up the calm before that.
01:30:08.399 -->
01:30:10.399It got so weird feeling outside.
01:30:12.640 -->
01:30:16.159Well, and that's and that's also something else that first responders do.
01:30:16.560 -->
01:30:18.479We kind of go outside and look.
01:30:18.720 -->
01:30:19.199Oh yeah.
01:30:19.359 -->
01:30:20.560We're outside during the storm.
01:30:25.760 -->
01:30:38.319But I was standing outside the rescue squad with Tyson Baker, and where the rescue squad is, you've got downtown to your left, and you've got Carnby Square to your right.
01:30:39.840 -->
01:30:40.960Right around A.R.
01:30:41.119 -->
01:30:47.760Dyke Cemetery, I counted five lightning bolts come down in the same spot and just boom.
01:30:48.239 -->
01:30:50.000And I said, Oh, this ain't good.
01:30:50.159 -->
01:30:50.640Yep.
01:30:51.119 -->
01:30:56.239And uh that's when the tornado siren started going off in London.
01:30:56.479 -->
01:31:01.680And we had I'd say about 30 people at the squad at this point.
01:31:01.760 -->
01:31:05.279So I was like, get in get in the basement.
01:31:05.760 -->
01:31:11.199Well, as I'm walking back into the bay, a minivan pulls up up front.
01:31:11.439 -->
01:31:12.800No idea who these people were.
01:31:12.880 -->
01:31:16.159And they was like, Do y'all have anywhere we can take shelter?
01:31:16.399 -->
01:31:17.520We're not from here.
01:31:17.760 -->
01:31:20.079We we just moved into Laurel County.
01:31:20.479 -->
01:31:21.600Spark people down there.
01:31:21.840 -->
01:31:25.520I was like, well, I'm not gonna tell these people no.
01:31:25.760 -->
01:31:26.399No, yeah.
01:31:26.640 -->
01:31:28.159I said, we got a basement over here.
01:31:28.239 -->
01:31:36.800I said, just go park your car right over next to the fire department because the rescue squad and the fire department, for all the people that don't know, they're literally in the same parking lot.
01:31:36.960 -->
01:31:37.600Yeah.
01:31:37.920 -->
01:31:42.640And they come walking in, and I said, I'm gonna take you all over.
01:31:42.800 -->
01:31:45.359And they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, we got our family coming.
01:31:45.439 -->
01:31:47.119I said, This ain't your family.
01:31:47.279 -->
01:31:49.359They're like, Yeah, this is it, but there's more of us.
01:31:49.439 -->
01:31:54.239And I look towards the fire department, there's about 12 people walking over here.
01:31:55.279 -->
01:31:57.520Meanwhile, uh, we could barely walk.
01:31:57.760 -->
01:32:00.399I was like, Oh, you've got to be kidding me.
01:32:01.119 -->
01:32:04.800So still brilliant people, you know.
01:32:04.880 -->
01:32:05.680Hey, go for help.
01:32:08.239 -->
01:32:11.600You know, you go through the basement and you know how small it is.
01:32:12.479 -->
01:32:14.960There were 50 people in that basement at one point.
01:32:15.199 -->
01:32:15.359Wow.
01:32:15.680 -->
01:32:16.720I'm glad it didn't come that way.
01:32:17.600 -->
01:32:25.680Well, before we went outside and started looking around, that's when it made that shift and it was coming straight for downtown.
01:32:26.000 -->
01:32:28.079Yeah, they they um I freaked out.
01:32:28.159 -->
01:32:34.560I was in the basement at this time, and my daughter looks over, and we're she's like, Are we gonna be okay?
01:32:34.720 -->
01:32:37.680I'm like, I don't, I'm like, I don't, I don't know.
01:32:38.239 -->
01:32:40.720I like I said, we're all we're here together.
01:32:42.319 -->
01:32:43.680She still gives me hard times like that.
01:32:43.920 -->
01:32:49.279Heather and I were in our basement when when it started going, I I had been looking at her and saying, you know, I have to leave.
01:32:49.439 -->
01:32:49.680Yeah.
01:32:49.920 -->
01:32:52.800I mean, that's a hard, that's a hard situation to be in.
01:32:54.159 -->
01:33:01.199And John had told all of us, he said, don't just get in the truck and go somewhere when the tones drop.
01:33:01.279 -->
01:33:08.239He says, We don't know where this thing's gonna be at, and I don't want you all driving straight into this and y'all get hit by this.
01:33:08.479 -->
01:33:12.800Now, when the tornado came through, it was rain wrapped.
01:33:13.039 -->
01:33:15.119So you couldn't see nothing.
01:33:15.520 -->
01:33:34.720Well a firefighter on Laurel County screamed on the radio that Sunshine Hills had been hit and do an all page for Sunshine Hills, which which means they page every f emergency responder and everything to this one incident.
01:33:35.840 -->
01:33:45.600So I'm in the first out truck, and me being the senior guy at the squad at the time, I had all these new people.
01:33:46.239 -->
01:33:52.880So you're trying to figure out who can you trust to be the first response.
01:33:53.439 -->
01:34:00.159Because direct path on that, when they probably dropped tones on that, it probably was still towards the airport at this time.
01:34:01.119 -->
01:34:02.960It was just going out of Sunshine Hills.
01:34:04.640 -->
01:34:11.279I think by the time we got to Phil Pot Road on 363, because originally we were going to Hart Church Road.
01:34:11.359 -->
01:34:13.760That was the first 911 call.
01:34:14.319 -->
01:34:16.800And then they had to wreck on the interstate.
01:34:17.039 -->
01:34:17.199Yes.
01:34:17.359 -->
01:34:18.880We had a car get blown off the interstate.
01:34:19.439 -->
01:34:20.079See, I've not heard that.
01:34:20.239 -->
01:34:20.800I didn't know that.
01:34:21.199 -->
01:34:27.119So they paged, yeah, so they paged Hart Church Road for people trapped in a collapsed house.
01:34:28.399 -->
01:34:32.960Then they paged a 46 with entrapment on the interstate car got hit by a tornado.
01:34:33.199 -->
01:34:37.359Was that in the same area as the where it went across from?
01:34:38.159 -->
01:34:46.319So a couple of the guys, they were in the second out crash truck, which goes to all the crashes and everything.
01:34:46.479 -->
01:34:48.399They went down Philpot Road.
01:34:48.640 -->
01:34:53.760I kept going down 363 towards Hart Church Road because I didn't know where this thing was.
01:34:53.840 -->
01:34:55.520I knew it was coming down 192.
01:34:55.600 -->
01:34:55.840Yeah.
01:34:56.560 -->
01:34:56.800Yeah.
01:34:58.399 -->
01:34:59.039Yeah.
01:34:59.600 -->
01:35:06.560So I'm literally turning right there, heading towards saddle road, you know, right straight stretch.
01:35:06.960 -->
01:35:10.560There's a piece of wood and the power lines down in the road.
01:35:10.720 -->
01:35:14.560And the guy in the backseat, all I heard was, oh my God.
01:35:14.880 -->
01:35:17.600And I look over to my right, and there's nothing.
01:35:17.760 -->
01:35:18.079Yeah.
01:35:18.239 -->
01:35:20.319The neighborhood was destroyed.
01:35:20.720 -->
01:35:23.279And I put the truck in the park and I said, Boys, get out and go.
01:35:23.600 -->
01:35:24.560It's still white care.
01:35:24.720 -->
01:35:25.760Look at driving down there.
01:35:26.479 -->
01:35:30.079And they rebuilt quite a bit, but it's still an amazing recovery.
01:35:32.319 -->
01:35:33.760I'm down in my basement.
01:35:34.000 -->
01:35:34.800We're looking.
01:35:34.960 -->
01:35:38.000I was watching Ryan and I'm looking.
01:35:38.239 -->
01:35:39.920You know, my wife's like, Can you turn it down?
01:35:40.000 -->
01:35:41.520Because I have my radio on.
01:35:41.680 -->
01:35:42.399I've got this.
01:35:42.560 -->
01:35:47.600I'm like, and she's like looking at somehow.
01:35:47.840 -->
01:35:52.079My message came across from our my first cousin.
01:35:52.239 -->
01:35:53.439It's like on Facebook.
01:35:53.760 -->
01:35:55.600Like, is anybody mom?
01:35:55.920 -->
01:36:00.560I was talking to mom on and she's all I can hear screaming.
01:36:01.039 -->
01:36:06.239And and they, you know, sadly they give out this second tornado coming.
01:36:06.560 -->
01:36:09.359Um so my wife's like, you're not leaving yet.
01:36:09.520 -->
01:36:17.119And I know y'all probably like freeze everybody from Lexington and Frankfurt that was like, hey, y'all got another one coming the same path.
01:36:18.239 -->
01:36:23.840That's when we had them start checking, and uh I yelled a dispatcher and I said, Hey, we're getting reports of a second one on us.
01:36:24.000 -->
01:36:24.560Can you find out?
01:36:24.640 -->
01:36:26.640And that's when they dropped the tones again.
01:36:26.880 -->
01:36:30.159And I was talking to people on the scene going, I've got people everywhere.
01:36:30.319 -->
01:36:37.039What you did find out what the weather's gonna do because they didn't know at that point if it was gonna come down the same path.
01:36:37.439 -->
01:36:41.920Because that's happened up in Ohio or somewhere like twenty like one and a couple hours later, another.
01:36:42.960 -->
01:36:49.920In our response district in Bush, I told our guys, go to the station if you want to, but don't leave the district because there is another one coming.
01:36:50.159 -->
01:36:55.760And we were, you know, yeah, it basically went airborne through our fire district and hit a couple of houses.
01:36:55.840 -->
01:36:56.159Yeah.
01:36:56.319 -->
01:37:02.319Um, but one hour after the initial call is when we were notified to go to Cricket Creek.
01:37:02.560 -->
01:37:04.079I'll let you figure that one out yourself.
01:37:04.399 -->
01:37:06.960That's that's in an hour later.
01:37:07.279 -->
01:37:07.840Wow.
01:37:08.319 -->
01:37:10.000Because I was just out there.
01:37:10.399 -->
01:37:10.800Uh-huh.
01:37:11.039 -->
01:37:12.560You figure that one out.
01:37:13.279 -->
01:37:19.439So where I was, you could not see everything.
01:37:19.840 -->
01:37:23.439I didn't know what was going on on the other side of the town.
01:37:24.079 -->
01:37:32.880And that I was expecting like one I two to be destroyed, everybody be going out there, you know, it lifted somewhere close to where we were.
01:37:33.439 -->
01:37:39.840Well, somebody come running up to us and they said, Have you all heard about the airport and 1006?
01:37:39.920 -->
01:37:42.880And I was like, No, they said, It's gone.
01:37:43.520 -->
01:37:56.560You don't think about what a straight line when you're over, say it's Sunshine Hills area, wine road, you know, that due west, basically, oh yeah is the park.
01:37:56.720 -->
01:37:58.159The air or the airport, the park.
01:37:58.720 -->
01:37:58.960Right.
01:37:59.039 -->
01:37:59.199Yeah.
01:37:59.520 -->
01:38:04.640You know, um and now that the trees are gone, you can kind of sit in the park and see all that now.
01:38:05.760 -->
01:38:10.960You know, thinking about it in your head, I've got to go way around, you know, all this back to this road to get to the house.
01:38:11.119 -->
01:38:12.880No, I mentioned Tyson being with him.
01:38:13.039 -->
01:38:13.359Yeah.
01:38:13.600 -->
01:38:14.000Tough.
01:38:14.800 -->
01:38:19.680So Tyson Tyson and me went and checked the house.
01:38:20.000 -->
01:38:21.520And the tree had fell on it.
01:38:21.600 -->
01:38:23.600And this guy's like, hey, my wife's in here.
01:38:23.680 -->
01:38:24.800And I said, Is she hurt?
01:38:24.880 -->
01:38:25.760And he said, No.
01:38:25.920 -->
01:38:29.119I said, Well, we'll get to her when we can.
01:38:29.600 -->
01:38:30.640She's not hurt.
01:38:30.800 -->
01:38:32.800That's a good thing, but she can't get out.
01:38:33.920 -->
01:38:38.000Somebody yelled at me and they was like, Hey, come come down here, I need you.
01:38:38.319 -->
01:38:43.600And I had the BLS bag, which has all our medical stuff in it, and I ran down.
01:38:44.960 -->
01:38:47.359I had a guy that he was hurt really bad.
01:38:47.600 -->
01:38:51.600And about this time's when they were saying second tornado's coming.
01:38:51.760 -->
01:38:51.920Yeah.
01:38:52.319 -->
01:38:53.760I said, I'm not leaving this guy.
01:38:53.920 -->
01:38:56.800And his wife is sitting in the rubble going, I can't get down.
01:38:57.039 -->
01:38:57.920I said, Are you hurt?
01:38:58.079 -->
01:39:00.079She's like, No, I just can't get down.
01:39:00.319 -->
01:39:04.720Well, Tyson comes up to me and he just had this look on his face.
01:39:05.359 -->
01:39:06.399I said, What's wrong?
01:39:06.560 -->
01:39:08.880He said, I think my house is gone.
01:39:09.520 -->
01:39:11.600And I said, Where's your wife and kid?
01:39:11.840 -->
01:39:16.800He said, Luckily, before all this, I told him to go to my mom and dad's and they lived on East 80.
01:39:18.159 -->
01:39:24.159And he called his wife, and somebody had called him and said, Yeah, your house is gone.
01:39:24.239 -->
01:39:25.199They went and checked it.
01:39:25.920 -->
01:39:29.119He lived right in that curve right there by the airport.
01:39:30.159 -->
01:39:30.960So the straight line?
01:39:31.119 -->
01:39:31.279Yes.
01:39:31.359 -->
01:39:32.000Yeah, it went right in the room.
01:39:32.159 -->
01:39:33.039You don't even think about that.
01:39:33.520 -->
01:39:38.000He probably was out there in Sunshine Hills thinking that's it.
01:39:38.079 -->
01:39:40.319But he's working and working and working in his house.
01:39:40.640 -->
01:39:41.119He's a victim.
01:39:41.439 -->
01:39:42.079He's a victim.
01:39:42.239 -->
01:39:42.560Yeah.
01:39:42.800 -->
01:39:47.359We we recovered a couple bodies and helped a couple people out.
01:39:47.520 -->
01:39:48.880And Tyson looked at me.
01:39:49.039 -->
01:39:49.920He says, I gotta go.
01:39:50.159 -->
01:39:51.359I said, I'll walk with you.
01:39:51.600 -->
01:39:53.439Because I was really worried about him.
01:39:53.520 -->
01:39:56.880He started getting pale and you know, you just lost your house.
01:39:57.439 -->
01:39:59.279Yeah, you l I mean you've lost everything.
01:39:59.840 -->
01:40:00.479Everything.
01:40:00.800 -->
01:40:04.720And I said, Tyson, there's a there's a good thing about this.
01:40:04.800 -->
01:40:07.520I said, Your wife and kids are safe.
01:40:08.000 -->
01:40:09.279I said, That's on you.
01:40:09.439 -->
01:40:10.319You did a good job.
01:40:10.479 -->
01:40:12.079And he was like, you know what, you're right.
01:40:12.159 -->
01:40:13.279And I said, I still got them.
01:40:13.680 -->
01:40:17.600Tyson Tyson said after the fact, he said, uh, always trust your gut.
01:40:17.680 -->
01:40:21.920And he had a gut feeling that he needed to call his wife and tell her to go to his mom and dad's.
01:40:22.000 -->
01:40:32.479And you know, I mean, how many times in our life have we trusted our gut or sometimes we question it or whatever, but it always works out.
01:40:32.720 -->
01:40:41.279The one I I want to question myself on on gut on my gut is like these burns to tornado in 2012.
01:40:42.399 -->
01:40:45.359I decided not far from where we have it, right?
01:40:46.560 -->
01:40:46.720Yeah.
01:40:47.119 -->
01:40:52.800And um my wife went to Atlanta with my daughter to the American girl.
01:40:52.960 -->
01:40:54.239You know, she's little.
01:40:54.640 -->
01:40:59.359And me and my son, he was uh two or three, I mean little little guy.
01:40:59.439 -->
01:41:02.640And I'm like, let's go down to mom and dad's house.
01:41:02.800 -->
01:41:05.600And they're right down here on a filter plant road.
01:41:06.079 -->
01:41:06.880You can hear that thing.
01:41:07.039 -->
01:41:11.119I was like, maybe my gut wasn't right unless we take it down from that one.
01:41:11.199 -->
01:41:13.039But but I just wanted to be with them.
01:41:13.119 -->
01:41:14.399And I, you know, you know how it is.
01:41:14.479 -->
01:41:24.319You're like, Well am I gonna do with this little guy if I had to run out and go help, if it comes, you know, because we they were given some crazy things I never heard of, like Torcons and stuff like that.
01:41:24.800 -->
01:41:26.479It's like magnetic was new ones.
01:41:26.720 -->
01:41:27.840Yeah, I was like, what is this?
01:41:27.920 -->
01:41:29.520It's like polar vortexes here.
01:41:30.000 -->
01:41:31.520What is all this made up stuff?
01:41:31.760 -->
01:41:38.239They were like, Yeah, we're at a Torcon 3, and I'm like, that's still not good, but there's there's five levels.
01:41:39.199 -->
01:41:42.399And the night it hit in May, it was a Torcon 3.
01:41:42.479 -->
01:41:42.880Yeah.
01:41:43.199 -->
01:41:49.439But um he he would try calling me, and I'd be like, Hey, you okay?
01:41:49.520 -->
01:41:52.880And it'd be it I can't hear you, I gotta go.
01:41:53.039 -->
01:41:54.319Yeah, like that.
01:41:54.479 -->
01:41:58.479I've never seen a community come together like that.
01:41:58.560 -->
01:42:02.880And then I was impressed with some out of them them cage navy guys.
01:42:03.039 -->
01:42:05.279And some of these came in from all over, yeah.
01:42:05.520 -->
01:42:14.640Yeah, it was it was beautiful to see the help and now they're you know, there's there's certain groups, the Mennonites are one example, are built, or they're framing up houses for people right now.
01:42:14.800 -->
01:42:19.119That's the thing that's that's the thing about this after you're like, well, how can we help now?
01:42:19.279 -->
01:42:25.920You know, uh now that all the you know the big name, the Red Cross, and all these people are gone, they're still they're still dealing with things.
01:42:26.000 -->
01:42:32.640The school, you know, kids are still homeless some on it, some of them, and and smart.
01:42:33.199 -->
01:42:35.680They canceled they they ended school that night.
01:42:35.840 -->
01:42:38.640Yeah, and it was not supposed to end until like the next week.
01:42:38.960 -->
01:42:41.920Yeah, we had about a week and something left to graduate, you know.
01:42:42.000 -->
01:42:44.319It was it was just a strange, hard time.
01:42:44.399 -->
01:42:48.720We've it kind of felt like well, the way they did it was it felt like COVID again.
01:42:48.880 -->
01:42:49.199Yeah, right.
01:42:49.520 -->
01:42:50.880Like we just abruptly ended.
01:42:52.000 -->
01:42:53.520Yeah, and there's no closure.
01:42:53.840 -->
01:43:05.039I mean, a lot of times you think if they would allow people to go back, because restoring to somewhat normal is how we recover from things, and that's that's kind of like us, you know.
01:43:05.279 -->
01:43:08.399It was it was hard to want to get back in a saddle, so to speak.
01:43:08.720 -->
01:43:22.399I I would say in just in uh Sunshine Hills and and Westland and across over there at on Court Road and stuff, I'm gonna say probably 10 to 15 teachers just at South South Middle and Wine Pine that were.
01:43:22.800 -->
01:43:27.199Well, I think when Wine Pine got opened, it was by a teacher that walked over there and opened it to try to.
01:43:28.640 -->
01:43:30.000We were already making the phone connection.
01:43:31.119 -->
01:43:34.000I'm not sure we were making the phone calls to get it opened.
01:43:34.880 -->
01:43:37.920He called me and he says, Are you around John Allen?
01:43:38.000 -->
01:43:48.159And I said, Well, I'm like half a mile from him because the neighborhood I was in, it was a half a mile from the beginning of 363 to the end.
01:43:48.960 -->
01:43:51.680And we carried one guy half a mile.
01:43:51.760 -->
01:43:52.159Yeah.
01:43:52.399 -->
01:43:58.800But he said, try to get John to get the command post set up at Wine Pine, get a hold of everybody.
01:43:59.119 -->
01:44:01.359We were working to try to at least have somewhere to get people.
01:44:01.520 -->
01:44:02.159And the problem.
01:44:02.479 -->
01:44:08.880And then it jammed up 360 because I came out there, me and Danny Robbins, you couldn't get turned around, you couldn't get ambulances out.
01:44:09.199 -->
01:44:22.159It was I was like, let's go back over here to to and help out on Wine Road because everybody's congregated right here, and they needed to be, but it was just like there's more, and I had no idea.
01:44:22.239 -->
01:44:23.920You you know, like Cold Hill.
01:44:24.159 -->
01:44:24.800Oh, yeah.
01:44:24.960 -->
01:44:25.279Yeah.
01:44:25.439 -->
01:44:32.079Just in this now, you think about this Cold Hill students and people in that school district.
01:44:32.479 -->
01:44:35.039I didn't mess Cold Hill school up by much when you think about it.
01:44:35.600 -->
01:44:36.640People got damaged there.
01:44:36.800 -->
01:44:37.279Yeah.
01:44:37.600 -->
01:44:39.439Winepine, Drick.
01:44:39.840 -->
01:44:41.359You didn't know they were so close.
01:44:41.680 -->
01:44:41.840Oh.
01:44:42.239 -->
01:44:42.960Sublimity.
01:44:43.199 -->
01:44:43.920Sublimity.
01:44:44.079 -->
01:44:49.600South Laurel High School and middle school, right there, real close, and they're then right over to Bush.
01:44:49.680 -->
01:44:49.920Yeah.
01:44:50.239 -->
01:44:54.640I mean, you're like, this these schools take 15, 20 minutes to get to.
01:44:55.119 -->
01:44:55.439Oh, yeah.
01:44:56.319 -->
01:44:58.159And it was it was there in a matter of minutes.
01:44:58.720 -->
01:45:02.560And I mean, I guess that just proves the power of mother nature that we don't know.
01:45:02.960 -->
01:45:18.960Um So after after all this was said and done, um we had some people stay at the rescue squad that were helping some of the victims' families and everything out, trying to recover stuff and help them build back up.
01:45:19.279 -->
01:45:30.479And one of the guys, he said, you know, just going out and looking at the damage, he said, if it had not gone through the forest like it did, we would have probably been hit by an F5.
01:45:30.720 -->
01:45:33.760And that is the worst tornado that you can possibly get hit by.
01:45:34.079 -->
01:45:35.199Did he just slow it down?
01:45:35.600 -->
01:45:45.840So we kind of slowed it down a little bit, and it lifted there at 192 near West Sline Creek and all that.
01:45:46.079 -->
01:45:46.720Yeah.
01:45:47.039 -->
01:45:48.960And it sat back down.
01:45:49.600 -->
01:45:54.319He said, You all got very lucky not to get hit by an F5.
01:45:54.640 -->
01:45:59.039Now, when they first said it was an F3, we were all like, Oh God, no.
01:45:59.199 -->
01:46:00.640No, this is an F4.
01:46:00.960 -->
01:46:02.319I'd hate to see more than F five.
01:46:04.479 -->
01:46:07.439Like Moore, Oklahoma, and Joplin.
01:46:08.640 -->
01:46:13.760Moore, Oklahoma in 2013 is the last F five tornado in the United States.
01:46:14.079 -->
01:46:14.479Wow.
01:46:14.800 -->
01:46:18.960So good people, you know, Les and his uh heartbroken.
01:46:20.239 -->
01:46:24.960And how many people in London ended up being 18.
01:46:25.359 -->
01:46:30.72018 here and there was 17 the night of, and then one passed away later on, and then one in the last time.
01:46:32.880 -->
01:46:33.279Twenty total.
01:46:33.840 -->
01:46:36.720Twenty people, and it could have been hundreds.
01:46:37.039 -->
01:46:37.680Absolutely.
01:46:38.560 -->
01:46:39.760We're blessed that it wasn't.
01:46:39.840 -->
01:46:40.399I mean it.
01:46:41.039 -->
01:46:48.000And that's a credit to well quick response, I think, and just grace.
01:46:48.159 -->
01:46:49.039I don't know.
01:46:49.359 -->
01:46:49.520Absolutely.
01:46:49.840 -->
01:47:00.479But you know, it's hard to say either like why them not the you know my aunt was in that house on one on on right there when it came across.
01:47:00.720 -->
01:47:08.640If you look at her house, she she must have been right in the middle because it went over the hill into Sunshine Hills.
01:47:09.520 -->
01:47:15.359And her car how her car was still in the garage, that was it.
01:47:15.760 -->
01:47:19.119There was another house from across the road over there sitting sideways in it.
01:47:19.359 -->
01:47:20.720She's in a pile of rubble.
01:47:20.880 -->
01:47:21.920She she was fine.
01:47:22.079 -->
01:47:31.680They found her and under a pile of rubble, probably 30 yards from the house, subflooring sucked out of this, out of there.
01:47:31.760 -->
01:47:32.159Yeah.
01:47:32.399 -->
01:47:35.600And her red ball bottle in the basement.
01:47:37.520 -->
01:47:38.800No, and I was surprised.
01:47:39.199 -->
01:47:40.239That's what scares you about it.
01:47:41.119 -->
01:47:42.720People died in basements in this.
01:47:43.359 -->
01:47:53.760So I'll tell you a funny story about that night, and this is probably the only good thing that I could think of from that night.
01:47:54.079 -->
01:48:03.199We were checking houses, and you know, you'd walk down and there'd be a house barely touched, and then right across the street there'd be one obliterated.
01:48:03.520 -->
01:48:03.920Yeah.
01:48:04.239 -->
01:48:09.439We went and checked the basement of a house, and we forced the garage door up.
01:48:09.680 -->
01:48:12.560There were 21 people sit standing in this basement.
01:48:12.880 -->
01:48:17.279And they looked at us and they said, Oh, thank goodness, we were trapped in here.
01:48:17.520 -->
01:48:19.600And the top of their house was destroyed.
01:48:21.439 -->
01:48:23.760They said, Is it bad?
01:48:24.000 -->
01:48:25.920And I said, Y'all don't know.
01:48:26.079 -->
01:48:27.600And they was like, No, we heard it.
01:48:27.760 -->
01:48:28.239Come over.
01:48:28.319 -->
01:48:31.359And I said, Well, I'm just gonna tell you, be prepared.
01:48:31.439 -->
01:48:33.039It's terrible.
01:48:33.279 -->
01:48:40.239And I said, When you get out of here, walk straight down the road towards 363 where all the emergency vehicles are.
01:48:40.479 -->
01:48:44.399But 21 people in this basement, and they were not hurt.
01:48:44.640 -->
01:48:46.239They were like, Yeah, we've been praying.
01:48:49.840 -->
01:48:50.399It worked.
01:48:50.720 -->
01:48:55.039I I was just I've never seen anything like that.
01:48:55.199 -->
01:49:00.239You I and I watch YouTube videos of Moore and Joplin.
01:49:00.479 -->
01:49:04.239That there was a good Netflix series uh documentary that came out on Joplin.
01:49:04.399 -->
01:49:29.439You're just like But to see what the devastation actually that of that night when it's still raining and getting flat tires in your you know in your car just trying to get you're like, Yeah, I've never seen pictures that we recover from probably the people like, hey, is this you know from Crooke in Crooke Creek and stuff that were at you know, way over here in Plasky or something crazy?
01:49:29.600 -->
01:49:33.680I mean, just uh weren't they finding people's stuff in hazard?
01:49:34.079 -->
01:49:35.680So there was some found in Pike County.
01:49:36.640 -->
01:49:41.359Um Tyson told us one of his wedding pictures was found in Perry County.
01:49:41.439 -->
01:49:41.600Yeah.
01:49:41.840 -->
01:49:42.479Wow.
01:49:43.359 -->
01:49:44.479That's amazing.
01:49:44.880 -->
01:49:53.600So that's so that cell for for those that don't know and for in the future people that started off, that super cell started off in Missouri.
01:49:53.760 -->
01:50:02.319It wasn't a tornado all the uh by the way, but it but when it hit that thing stayed together for f I forget a hundred something miles.
01:50:02.560 -->
01:50:08.159Oh, I mean, it was like a mile wide that whole cell though was five years.
01:50:08.319 -->
01:50:09.600Yeah, from way in Missouri.
01:50:09.840 -->
01:50:14.800If we drive to the Mississippi River, it's gonna take us five and a half hours.
01:50:15.039 -->
01:50:15.359Yeah.
01:50:15.600 -->
01:50:17.039And it and it came from there.
01:50:17.199 -->
01:50:18.079Oh from further.
01:50:18.800 -->
01:50:20.319I think it came over like from those arcs.
01:50:20.880 -->
01:50:22.000So I mean, that's crazy.
01:50:22.560 -->
01:50:29.279I've I've never I didn't know that, you know, you see these little pop-up supercells and they dissipate.
01:50:29.600 -->
01:50:36.239For it to stay that tight and then drop a tornado in in Southeast Kentucky where we don't get we get them.
01:50:36.880 -->
01:50:39.359Pulaski County and Laurel County get plenty of tornadoes.
01:50:39.439 -->
01:50:40.159We have some.
01:50:40.880 -->
01:50:41.840But not that extended.
01:50:42.079 -->
01:50:45.600Usually the ones that we get, they pop down, they do a little damage, they go right back up.
01:50:45.760 -->
01:50:48.880I mean, that's because I was in the one at Carnegie Square.
01:50:49.439 -->
01:50:51.119I was living on Morgan Street.
01:50:51.439 -->
01:50:52.479I just can't get away from it.
01:50:52.720 -->
01:50:54.319Yeah, coming towards you.
01:50:54.800 -->
01:50:56.399Yeah, that was a chase state thing.
01:50:56.560 -->
01:50:58.720Yeah, we're all that story is Don't Live by Travis.
01:50:59.119 -->
01:51:00.239Meet me two years old.
01:51:00.319 -->
01:51:04.399He's taking me tornado chasing through the downtown Carnival Square tornado.
01:51:05.199 -->
01:51:05.279Right.
01:51:05.439 -->
01:51:08.880Hey, listen, that one right there was sunshining.
01:51:09.439 -->
01:51:13.199It was, I heard I heard it tinging off our door.
01:51:13.279 -->
01:51:14.159I was like, what in the world?
01:51:14.239 -->
01:51:16.479I said, get in the get in the bathroom.
01:51:16.560 -->
01:51:21.199And I'm sitting in the bathroom, and Lisa had made some kind of blueberry pie.
01:51:21.359 -->
01:51:22.479And I'm sitting on the toilet.
01:51:23.760 -->
01:51:25.039She's loving letting it find out.
01:51:25.279 -->
01:51:27.920No, just in case the electric went out, it did.
01:51:28.319 -->
01:51:32.079She's holding a dog, and I'm sitting there eating a pie on a toilet like an idiot.
01:51:32.239 -->
01:51:43.840And um, we pop our heads out when it's over, and Lodge Holland was building his house, and and you know, the police chief, and he pops his head out, looks around, he's like, in typical Lodge, he points around to everybody.
01:51:44.000 -->
01:51:44.560Is everybody good?
01:51:46.000 -->
01:51:49.439And um and the next thing you know, he'd owned that store.
01:51:49.520 -->
01:51:51.680Uh the quick, I think he bought the quick stop.
01:51:52.479 -->
01:51:57.760Quick stop or whatever from Danny Fisher and them, and they they pop around, it's gone.
01:51:58.640 -->
01:51:59.840What we talking about.
01:52:00.000 -->
01:52:09.119Somebody came down from the store, I guess we're all the you know, Carnegie Square and then Bossinger, and you know it it turned over cars and uh sucked up black talk.
01:52:09.279 -->
01:52:10.000Yeah, that's right.
01:52:10.239 -->
01:52:16.800I'm like, how is you know that that one was it was sunshine outside when that thing it was weird.
01:52:17.119 -->
01:52:28.079The the first tornado I experienced that I can actually say I remember um Livia's third birthday in 2006.
01:52:28.479 -->
01:52:33.119There was a storm that came through and tornado dropped down in bush.
01:52:33.600 -->
01:52:35.439It took the roof off of Lola's.
01:52:36.800 -->
01:52:37.199Remember that?
01:52:37.439 -->
01:52:40.479I remember watching dad get sucked out the front door.
01:52:40.720 -->
01:52:41.039What?
01:52:41.359 -->
01:52:43.600Opened the front door and it pulled me out of my knee.
01:52:46.159 -->
01:52:46.880There he goes.
01:52:47.119 -->
01:52:48.159And mom's going over.
01:52:49.039 -->
01:52:49.600What am I doing?
01:52:49.760 -->
01:52:50.560I'm going below.
01:52:51.760 -->
01:52:52.960He's been abducted.
01:52:53.680 -->
01:52:54.319Where'd he go?
01:52:54.399 -->
01:52:55.119He's in awesome.
01:52:56.239 -->
01:52:56.880That's it.
01:52:59.199 -->
01:53:03.520But that day, May 16, 2025.
01:53:06.720 -->
01:53:09.600I've never seen anything like that in my life.
01:53:09.840 -->
01:53:15.119The response was awesome, but the devastation, I would never get that out of my mind.
01:53:15.439 -->
01:53:23.359And going there and you're like, I couldn't find what's weird is how many times you've driven these roads and you could not recognize where we were.
01:53:23.760 -->
01:53:24.479That's exactly.
01:53:24.560 -->
01:53:25.680And there's no road signs.
01:53:26.399 -->
01:53:34.079I mean, even if you because they were saying they were giving us like an address and a and a street, and I'm like, there's no numbers.
01:53:34.319 -->
01:53:37.600Or there's no mailboxes, no load marks, there's no porches.
01:53:37.920 -->
01:53:42.960I mean, you know, you couldn't tell anything, and and you don't realize how dark dark is, do you?
01:53:44.159 -->
01:53:58.960Until you're standing out in the middle of something like that, uh with no you have a flashlight or whatever, but maybe it's a weird feeling, and I know y'all were out there doing what you had to do, but when you were going around with, you know, I'm a I was a school police.
01:53:59.039 -->
01:54:01.119We, you know, we were just out there trying to do our best.
01:54:01.279 -->
01:54:04.159Me and Danny Robinson, I think Jesse Williams were out.
01:54:04.399 -->
01:54:10.399And at the this time, and it's so dark, and your flashlights are you're like, I'm not made for this anymore.
01:54:10.560 -->
01:54:10.800I know.
01:54:10.960 -->
01:54:15.199And you're like, All right, my aunt's gone, she's at the hospital.
01:54:15.279 -->
01:54:17.119I can't get out of here in a trooper.
01:54:17.359 -->
01:54:21.439I think, you know, Scotty Penny, or somebody was like, hey, can you help us?
01:54:21.600 -->
01:54:23.359We're gonna go over here and look for bodies.
01:54:23.520 -->
01:54:25.199I'm like, oh yeah.
01:54:25.359 -->
01:54:37.279You know, I'm about I'm my mission focused on finding my ahmed turns into uh recovery in and look for still people trapped because we was out there probably an hour after it, you know, it was done.
01:54:37.359 -->
01:54:38.640And I'm like, oh.
01:54:39.119 -->
01:54:46.159And I'll tell you how we don't know who if there's anything that would be a trigger for me after that, is smoke detectors.
01:54:46.399 -->
01:54:47.680Oh yeah, you could hear them all.
01:54:48.960 -->
01:54:50.800I mean, yeah, I just wouldn't shut up.
01:54:50.960 -->
01:54:55.359It was every house that had one, they were going off, and it was from the dust.
01:54:55.600 -->
01:54:55.840Right.
01:54:56.239 -->
01:55:02.239You know, and I said, if I hear smoke detectors, I can honestly see that being a trigger.
01:55:02.319 -->
01:55:11.359If there is the smoke detectors and gas lines, just the smell, the the lime carrying on.
01:55:11.439 -->
01:55:12.880Yeah, I was like everywhere.
01:55:13.119 -->
01:55:15.600I could that one freaked me out because it was sucking, you know.
01:55:15.680 -->
01:55:18.880I mean, and you know, as a firefighter, we're trying to go shut those off.
01:55:19.039 -->
01:55:19.680Well, there wasn't a lot of things.
01:55:19.760 -->
01:55:20.960We're gonna go shut them off.
01:55:21.279 -->
01:55:24.399I mean they broke off, and that was crazy.
01:55:24.640 -->
01:55:27.359Every time you'd be like, is it safe to start my car right now?
01:55:27.520 -->
01:55:28.319You know, you know what I'm saying?
01:55:28.399 -->
01:55:29.920I was like talking on your radio, yeah.
01:55:30.079 -->
01:55:32.239That that can trigger it, and people don't know that.
01:55:32.479 -->
01:55:50.880I was uh luckily it's probably dissipated when right out, but you were like I I remember thinking I'm the smell of natural gas and the sound of uh smoke detectors was just it was and you were out there over debris and nails every day.
01:55:51.520 -->
01:55:55.920How many nail injuries did y'all I mean I honestly I didn't hear of that many?
01:55:56.399 -->
01:55:58.800I stepped on three that they didn't go into my foot.
01:55:59.039 -->
01:56:02.640Yeah, I heard the belt put my shoe off three times flat tires, but that's right.
01:56:02.720 -->
01:56:03.359We found a diary.
01:56:03.920 -->
01:56:06.000The rescue squad has their six by six.
01:56:06.640 -->
01:56:13.119We blew every tire on that thing, and still we had patients in the back, and we were driving on the flat tires.
01:56:13.840 -->
01:56:16.000But we do what we gotta do, yeah.
01:56:16.479 -->
01:56:18.960But I I found my aunt, I went to the hospital.
01:56:19.039 -->
01:56:20.079Luckily, she didn't go to wine.
01:56:20.399 -->
01:56:28.319They could they were going to take her to Wine Pine and couldn't get up there, so he just took her to the hospital and got checked out.
01:56:28.399 -->
01:56:36.239And I remember going in there and she really she was like, you know, glad to see me, but still in total shock.
01:56:36.560 -->
01:56:38.880Oh, I don't want you know, oh, you don't see me like this.
01:56:39.039 -->
01:56:39.840I'm like, oh yeah.
01:56:40.079 -->
01:56:42.000I'm just glad you're intact.
01:56:44.640 -->
01:56:54.079You you you don't need to go there for a little while at us and going through those things and seeing old pictures of you know, you're like, oh my gosh.
01:56:54.159 -->
01:56:54.319Yeah.
01:56:54.479 -->
01:57:02.319It it makes you realize that we we s it's just stuff that we we hoard and keep and stuff.
01:57:02.640 -->
01:57:05.199The memories of the pictures and stuff are so important.
01:57:05.520 -->
01:57:08.079But that other stuff is just stuff.
01:57:08.479 -->
01:57:17.920You know, I I took a picture and actually posted on Facebook that morning of the 17th, and it was of uh Raggedy Andy or whatever laying out in the field.
01:57:18.159 -->
01:57:20.800And it was just like, this brings it together out here.
01:57:20.960 -->
01:57:21.760You know, yeah.
01:57:21.920 -->
01:57:28.319There was no house anywhere around well, but there's this doll just laying there that was some kid's toy or whatever, you know.
01:57:28.479 -->
01:57:32.239And that's just how in a matter of seconds your life can be just torn apart.
01:57:32.880 -->
01:57:47.279And things that we think sometimes are not that important to us, or to but you don't know what that is to somebody else or whatever, and how that when it's all gone, I mean, I couldn't imagine starting over and having to build a house.
01:57:47.600 -->
01:57:48.319No, absolutely not.
01:57:48.479 -->
01:57:51.359And I sure don't think I could build back where a tornado.
01:57:51.600 -->
01:57:53.039I mean, I don't know that I could live there.
01:57:53.680 -->
01:57:59.680No, after that, my my wife's aunt was was in Sunshine Hills, and they were super lucky.
01:57:59.760 -->
01:58:06.079I mean, they they said when it started coming over, they jumped in the bathtub and threw the, you know, threw a cushion over top of them.
01:58:06.399 -->
01:58:16.159Said it for about two minutes they heard, you know, it's just a god awful sound every and then they got out, and then the only thing was standing was the wall that the bathtub was on, and then everything else was.
01:58:16.560 -->
01:58:17.520And you've always heard that.
01:58:17.760 -->
01:58:19.840And I thought, well, yeah, all right, go to the bathtub.
01:58:19.920 -->
01:58:22.079Hey, bathtub saved a lot of people's lives.
01:58:23.039 -->
01:58:24.720Yeah, they absolutely did.
01:58:24.960 -->
01:58:31.760And that is all that just the whole front of the house gone, the sides gone, and there's just those center interior rooms.
01:58:31.840 -->
01:58:38.880I mean, we always hear go to an interior room, you mentioned going to the bathroom in 20 or 20 years ago.
01:58:39.199 -->
01:58:42.960They decided to rebuild there, but they really they really questioned it there for a little bit.
01:58:43.279 -->
01:58:44.880My aunt's home, right?
01:58:45.119 -->
01:58:45.760Yeah, exactly.
01:58:46.000 -->
01:58:53.039My my aunt sold her place, you know, and and that that's gonna there's gonna be some that build, some that that sell.
01:58:53.680 -->
01:58:54.960And it's not gonna look the same.
01:58:55.279 -->
01:58:56.319You know, I mean that.
01:58:56.800 -->
01:59:01.920And then and then for the kids, which there was not a lot of kids in that area.
01:59:02.319 -->
01:59:02.640Thank God.
01:59:03.279 -->
01:59:04.000Not like some areas.
01:59:04.720 -->
01:59:05.840I mean, it was older.
01:59:06.239 -->
01:59:08.000Primarily an elderly population.
01:59:08.560 -->
01:59:12.560If this would have happened 15 years ago, their kids, you know, they would have been kids, yeah.
01:59:12.800 -->
01:59:14.239Yeah, they would have, and they've moved off.
01:59:14.800 -->
01:59:19.920You know, you think though that if there are kids there and they're used to their community, that's the bad thing, though.
01:59:20.239 -->
01:59:23.039If they build back, then other people's kids aren't there.
01:59:23.119 -->
01:59:27.199And I mean, it's just it's it's strange how it can change so fast.
01:59:27.439 -->
01:59:31.680You know, Sunshine Hills was you know, I include Wesland with it.
01:59:32.000 -->
01:59:32.880The Westland State.
01:59:32.960 -->
01:59:36.000I mean, it's kind of it's probably a different subdivision.
01:59:36.319 -->
01:59:40.479It is, but that thing was that whole area is Sunshine Hills to me.
01:59:40.640 -->
01:59:40.960Yeah.
01:59:41.520 -->
01:59:43.680But it was gone.
01:59:43.760 -->
01:59:49.520And then Yeah, we're I went to a wedding over there at that venue next to the airport over there.
01:59:52.239 -->
01:59:54.000And I was talking to Ben.
01:59:54.319 -->
01:59:57.439We he was, you know, Ben Webb was he's a city police.
01:59:57.520 -->
02:00:09.680I think he was working at ten, eight that night and That afternoon and and he said it's just hard for me to sit here at this wedding and not see know what I saw over here and here and here.
02:00:14.560 -->
02:00:17.760And um you know Yeah.
02:00:18.079 -->
02:00:19.039It j it was just tough.
02:00:19.600 -->
02:00:20.479It is, it is tough.
02:00:20.560 -->
02:00:21.600And it it's already done.
02:00:21.680 -->
02:00:23.600I mean even drive back through there now.
02:00:23.840 -->
02:00:24.239Oh yeah.
02:00:24.399 -->
02:00:27.680Uh you know, you're excited to see people rebuilding their lives.
02:00:27.920 -->
02:01:07.439But man of life, I it just uh those memories I can still see things that I saw that night or whatever, you know what just coming from where I was I saw more dead people on one call than I ever have combined probably and there was people hurt everywhere, but the one thing that really still gets to me is just watching the people walk towards you.
02:01:07.520 -->
02:01:07.680Yeah.
02:01:07.920 -->
02:01:10.000It looked like the walking dead coming towards you.
02:01:11.680 -->
02:01:21.199And the one kid that I saw that night, and he was just like, Our house is gone.
02:01:21.439 -->
02:01:25.520I was like, Yeah, I mean, but you still got your family.
02:01:25.760 -->
02:01:26.000Yeah.
02:01:26.239 -->
02:01:29.119He's like, Yeah, I still got them, but we're we're gonna be okay.
02:01:29.359 -->
02:01:29.760Yeah.
02:01:30.000 -->
02:01:32.800I was like, that's the mentality to have, young man.
02:01:33.520 -->
02:01:34.640It's tough.
02:01:35.039 -->
02:01:45.039It's um it's gonna be years and years of of of trauma and shock, you know.
02:01:45.439 -->
02:01:52.960I couldn't imagine what next spring well, the tornadoes that hit in it was December 10th.
02:01:53.279 -->
02:01:54.319Yeah, in 21.
02:01:54.880 -->
02:01:56.23921 in Mayfell.
02:01:56.319 -->
02:01:56.640Mm-hmm.
02:01:56.880 -->
02:01:58.399I mean that went through downtown.
02:01:58.479 -->
02:01:58.640Yeah.
02:01:58.960 -->
02:02:01.199That was that was unbelievable as well.
02:02:01.439 -->
02:02:03.199But I you know, that's my dad's birthday.
02:02:03.359 -->
02:02:03.600Oh, yeah.
02:02:03.920 -->
02:02:08.239We're talking about the first snow usually year is around his birthday.
02:02:08.479 -->
02:02:18.720And um for a tornado, you know, so you just never know, but I couldn't imagine the spring and of of big storms coming into the cloud rolls in, you're gonna get worried.
02:02:19.039 -->
02:02:30.079I still look at them now and you like you know, and I know you see that stuff too, and you hear the people they'll take pictures of these clouds, and you're like, yeah, it's gonna be tough to get through for a while.
02:02:30.239 -->
02:02:36.479And and I don't blame nobody because um I know I'll look at it differently, you know.
02:02:36.800 -->
02:02:37.600Oh, absolutely.
02:02:37.920 -->
02:02:38.720It's it's scary.
02:02:39.119 -->
02:02:51.680I I just can't say good things uh all the time, but seventy-six people got transported to the hospital that night.
02:02:52.239 -->
02:02:53.359Seventy-six.
02:02:54.079 -->
02:02:57.760That's how many people we were found and recovered.
02:02:58.479 -->
02:03:12.640And the teams that came from other parts of the state, I they they had to go through the area because they were relieving all of the Law County crews.
02:03:13.520 -->
02:03:20.319Um they wanted some people from home to go with them and try to look at the area.
02:03:20.640 -->
02:03:28.159And the group I was with, they they looked at me and they said, There's we can't there's nothing for us to do.
02:03:28.399 -->
02:03:29.600You all done it.
02:03:30.319 -->
02:03:32.800By the morning, everybody had been found.
02:03:33.760 -->
02:03:34.159That's awesome.
02:03:34.319 -->
02:03:36.079Nobody that's best case scenario.
02:03:36.800 -->
02:03:37.680It is, it is.
02:03:38.079 -->
02:03:39.359That's dedication.
02:03:39.520 -->
02:03:48.239You all have some very professional folks, and what they, you know, not every you know, you got new guys.
02:03:48.319 -->
02:03:54.640What they lack in experience and that, they have the gumption and the grit to go after it, and that's good.
02:03:54.960 -->
02:04:03.920And people being in it for the right reasons and not and there was there was like I said, there was a lot of new people on the rescue squad that were there that night.
02:04:04.239 -->
02:04:09.600And it's hard to tell tell them, hey, we can't we can't help this person.
02:04:09.760 -->
02:04:11.600And they're like, Well, they're right here.
02:04:11.760 -->
02:04:13.279I said, Yeah, but they're dead.
02:04:13.600 -->
02:04:14.640We we can't do nothing.
02:04:14.720 -->
02:04:16.319We there's people over here that need our help.
02:04:16.880 -->
02:04:24.560Triaging is make a bad call or not.
02:04:25.520 -->
02:04:27.760That that'll haunt me forever.
02:04:29.520 -->
02:04:34.960Because they teach you triage in the EMT class and they're like black tag.
02:04:35.359 -->
02:04:35.840Yeah.
02:04:36.079 -->
02:04:46.000And people could still be alive, but you know they're not gonna be alive, and you can't waste your time trying to help this person that's way too much.
02:04:46.640 -->
02:04:54.319You've got to help you've got to help somebody whose likelihood of survival is is greater than so it's it's hard to hear and it's hard to to do.
02:04:54.640 -->
02:04:58.560It's it's kind of when you're in this line of business, you want to help everybody.
02:04:59.119 -->
02:04:59.920Oh, yeah.
02:05:00.319 -->
02:05:06.960And um It's kind of like with active shooter training with with law enforcement.
02:05:07.600 -->
02:05:14.159You're trained if you've got bodies on the floor, you've got people yelling that are shot, screaming out that need help.
02:05:14.319 -->
02:05:18.800It's hard to go past that without but that's not your job at the time.
02:05:18.960 -->
02:05:20.800You've got to step and you've got to stop.
02:05:21.039 -->
02:05:24.079You've got to stop the threat in order to help these people.
02:05:24.479 -->
02:05:26.640So it's the same with that, you know, with triage.
02:05:26.880 -->
02:05:32.319You've got to you've got to stop, you know, you've got to help who you can and who you know that you you can actually save.
02:05:32.560 -->
02:05:39.119And it's like that night, state police, my goodness, they helped us a lot.
02:05:39.279 -->
02:05:39.600Yep.
02:05:39.840 -->
02:05:41.039It was great.
02:05:41.520 -->
02:05:46.640And they were trying to help somebody, and I said, hey, we we gotta get going.
02:05:46.960 -->
02:05:47.520It's tough.
02:05:47.600 -->
02:05:48.720It's it's tough stuff.
02:05:49.119 -->
02:05:50.000Oh, yeah.
02:05:50.319 -->
02:05:58.399Well, you've got a notebook full of stuff that we've uh we've been, you know, we've we've kind of derailed some, so let's let's lighten up a little bit.
02:06:00.319 -->
02:06:02.399So we'll get the fun and stuff now.
02:06:03.920 -->
02:06:05.199Hey, this stuff's great, though.
02:06:05.279 -->
02:06:12.720I mean, it's it's stuff that needs to be talked about about the tornado because it's well, it's been four months, five months, four months.
02:06:13.039 -->
02:06:20.800And sometimes the best therapy is to get it, you know, just talk so I it's gonna affect us for years and years.
02:06:20.880 -->
02:06:23.439And and I don't know when I both maybe talked about it.
02:06:23.600 -->
02:06:33.199Uh you know, you you think after what you saw and what's it did you know we talk about this about every episode with about each guest is that's kind of the reason we started this podcast.
02:06:33.439 -->
02:06:43.840I mean, it's partially for entertainment and then it's partially, you know, it helps us to bounce these things off, these stories, these horrible calls that we've had off of each other.
02:06:44.000 -->
02:06:45.920You get it off, you get it out into the open out.
02:06:46.479 -->
02:06:54.399Sometimes talking like this will allow you to let your guard down a little bit, even though this mic's in front.
02:06:54.560 -->
02:07:03.600But me asking a question about it and talking about it, may you may you two might talk about it, but maybe, maybe not.
02:07:03.760 -->
02:07:04.239Right.
02:07:04.640 -->
02:07:08.880But people need to hear, and you need to get it's a way to decompress too.
02:07:08.960 -->
02:07:11.520So it's good for your soul, really.
02:07:11.760 -->
02:07:15.279Um, so I know you all went to the floods in 2022.
02:07:15.439 -->
02:07:15.680Absolutely.
02:07:16.319 -->
02:07:16.880I went to that.
02:07:17.119 -->
02:07:19.119One of the greatest experiences of my life.
02:07:19.359 -->
02:07:24.399So it was terrible, but it was uh it was an awesome and humbling experience.
02:07:25.439 -->
02:07:31.199So the day it hit, I was supposed to be at work at eight o'clock.
02:07:32.640 -->
02:07:38.399Now, being a swift water tech, those are the big things.
02:07:38.640 -->
02:07:39.039Yeah.
02:07:39.359 -->
02:07:48.159Um, we get called to Clay County for mutual aid, and Onita, they said Onita's underwater, we need help, and there's somebody trapped.
02:07:48.399 -->
02:07:48.720Okay.
02:07:49.520 -->
02:07:50.960So we meet up.
02:07:52.800 -->
02:07:52.880Yeah.
02:07:53.920 -->
02:07:58.479So we went to 421 and 11, and we start going down.
02:07:58.640 -->
02:08:00.720You see the floods and everything.
02:08:01.840 -->
02:08:10.640We get maybe about five miles down highway 11, and the Clay County boys were like, uh we're stuck.
02:08:10.960 -->
02:08:12.079How are we stuck?
02:08:12.319 -->
02:08:14.399There's a landslide up ahead.
02:08:14.640 -->
02:08:16.560Oh, you got somebody coming?
02:08:16.640 -->
02:08:18.479Yeah, they're gonna be here in about two hours.
02:08:18.640 -->
02:08:21.439And I'm like, boy, I gotta be at work.
02:08:22.399 -->
02:08:31.840But so where we were, there was no self-service, so I'm freaking out because I'm like, I'm probably gonna have a job when I get back.
02:08:32.319 -->
02:08:32.640Okay.
02:08:33.760 -->
02:08:36.079And they cleared it out.
02:08:36.319 -->
02:08:38.640Well, there's another one, yeah.
02:08:38.880 -->
02:08:41.920And it's bigger, so they clear that one.
02:08:42.159 -->
02:08:47.279Well, we go up the road a little bit, and they're like, uh, there's an even bigger one.
02:08:47.920 -->
02:08:51.840Half the mountain had come down, and there was trees standing straight up.
02:08:52.239 -->
02:08:52.880Wow.
02:08:53.119 -->
02:08:57.359It took us six hours to get to Onita on Highway 11.
02:08:57.600 -->
02:08:57.920Jeez.
02:08:58.399 -->
02:09:00.560And we were about faster on horseback.
02:09:00.800 -->
02:09:05.840Yeah, we were probably about three, four miles past Laurel Creek Nursing Home, if you know where that is.
02:09:10.720 -->
02:09:18.720From downtown Manchester to over there is probably what 15 minutes if you're if everything's going good.
02:09:19.199 -->
02:09:19.840Maybe a little longer.
02:09:21.520 -->
02:09:23.600Or you're in the fire truck down there.
02:09:23.840 -->
02:09:25.119Oh yeah, we've done that too.
02:09:25.520 -->
02:09:26.319Way later.
02:09:27.039 -->
02:09:32.239But it's a it's a good little haul from but still, it shouldn't be a six-hour ordeal.
02:09:32.560 -->
02:09:40.399No and so we get to Onita, and obviously it it had flooded really bad.
02:09:40.640 -->
02:09:43.359And they was like, Well, boys, we already got her.
02:09:44.479 -->
02:09:45.840That'd been nice to have known.
02:09:46.079 -->
02:09:46.880Yeah, yeah.
02:09:47.119 -->
02:09:48.960But thanks for the thanks for the heads up.
02:09:49.199 -->
02:09:50.479Thanks for the heads up.
02:09:50.720 -->
02:09:54.800Well, we get turned around, we go to the Burger King there by Pizza Pro.
02:09:55.039 -->
02:09:55.439Mm-hmm.
02:09:55.760 -->
02:10:00.319And my boss or my captain calls me and he's like, Are you coming to work?
02:10:00.479 -->
02:10:03.039I said, Um, well, no.
02:10:03.680 -->
02:10:05.039And he's like, What do you mean no?
02:10:05.119 -->
02:10:10.800I said, I'm in Clay County rescuing people, and not be like, Well, we just wasted our time.
02:10:10.960 -->
02:10:11.600Yeah.
02:10:11.920 -->
02:10:18.479But this is about the time they were needing help in Perry County, and they asked us to go.
02:10:18.560 -->
02:10:22.960So I said, Well, I'm getting deployed to Perry County, so you're gonna have to call somebody in.
02:10:23.199 -->
02:10:27.760And we get over there, not realizing how bad it was.
02:10:27.920 -->
02:10:35.199We had heard helicopters were doing rooftop rescues, and there was boats getting people.
02:10:36.720 -->
02:10:44.239We go down a road, and you're just looking around and you're like, oh my goodness, everything's gone.
02:10:45.199 -->
02:10:46.960And I got pictures of it.
02:10:47.119 -->
02:10:50.479There's a fire hydrant sucked out of the ground.
02:10:50.720 -->
02:10:51.119Gosh.
02:10:51.359 -->
02:10:52.640And it's just sitting there like this.
02:10:52.720 -->
02:10:55.760And I said, just imagine how fast that water was going.
02:10:56.720 -->
02:11:04.960And later that night, the first night that we were there, we had to go down this Bob's Road.
02:11:05.039 -->
02:11:10.000I don't know where it was, but there's like a hundred-foot drop right next to you.
02:11:10.079 -->
02:11:14.159And we're in the dive bus, if y'all know what our dive bus is.
02:11:14.800 -->
02:11:19.279Ricky George looked at me and he said, Put your seatbelt on, I'm gonna get us out of here.
02:11:19.439 -->
02:11:25.039And he backed up this road, and he's like, just don't let me get off.
02:11:25.279 -->
02:11:27.039I said, if we get off, we're gone.
02:11:27.279 -->
02:11:31.199I said, You'll know it if you hit up it.
02:11:31.760 -->
02:11:33.199It'll be the last thing you remember.
02:11:33.439 -->
02:11:34.960It's gonna be smooth for just a second.
02:11:35.359 -->
02:11:43.279Being over there and just seeing the devastation and seeing how some of these people were living, you're like, we're blessed.
02:11:43.439 -->
02:11:44.239Yeah, absolutely.
02:11:44.399 -->
02:11:48.319That's why you know we've taught the natural disaster stuff.
02:11:48.640 -->
02:11:55.359Man, it's it's it's the power of water, of wind, fire.
02:11:55.520 -->
02:12:00.079Y'all I it's worse than any.
02:12:00.720 -->
02:12:03.840I remember driving up on the way up.
02:12:04.000 -->
02:12:11.039I think Cody was driving, I was on the passenger side, and we went well just going through the town, it looked like you know, like Fallujah or something like a battle.
02:12:11.520 -->
02:12:12.159Which town was it?
02:12:12.479 -->
02:12:13.119Fleming.
02:12:13.439 -->
02:12:13.760Yeah.
02:12:14.000 -->
02:12:18.399And then, but on the way there, I'll never forget, I've got a picture of it.
02:12:18.640 -->
02:12:31.279There was a trailer up on the hill on the side, and you had the you know, the river, how they all had bridges over to but there was a trailer over there, and I'm looking at like you just kind of at a glance, you see the car in the driveway.
02:12:31.439 -->
02:12:36.479Well, the car's not in the driveway, the car is parked on the porch.
02:12:36.560 -->
02:12:37.279It's in the porch.
02:12:37.520 -->
02:12:42.880It had picked it up, flipped it upside down and parked inside and it's uh picked it up and put it on the porch.
02:12:43.039 -->
02:12:43.279Yep.
02:12:43.439 -->
02:12:44.800And I was like, that's the wildest thing.
02:12:45.039 -->
02:12:48.319I remember I remember thinking it dried up by the time we got up there.
02:12:48.720 -->
02:12:51.199But nobody had came to there was a lot of mud left there.
02:12:51.439 -->
02:12:59.520Fleming was was, you know, we was walking down, it dried up, you know, and it was like dirt and weird.
02:12:59.680 -->
02:13:03.520It felt like we was walking in a like a ghost town.
02:13:04.720 -->
02:13:07.840You know, you they'd hit they'd already marked the big X's and stuff like that.
02:13:08.000 -->
02:13:08.319Female.
02:13:09.199 -->
02:13:09.520Yeah.
02:13:09.760 -->
02:13:18.159And but I remember looking and seeing like this is how high the water, you know, six feet up, the mud line on the floor.
02:13:18.319 -->
02:13:20.079Yeah, the pharmacy was six and a half feet.
02:13:20.239 -->
02:13:24.159Yeah, and you're like, how in the world did all this stuff.
02:13:24.560 -->
02:13:26.159And that's you know, the flash flooding.
02:13:26.399 -->
02:13:30.800I mean, that happens over in a matter of an hour or something, you know, and then it's gone.
02:13:31.039 -->
02:13:31.680Yeah.
02:13:36.000 -->
02:13:38.079We've definitely had our share in in the last few years.
02:13:38.479 -->
02:13:38.960Absolutely.
02:13:39.279 -->
02:13:51.199So we uh we went back a couple weeks afterwards, and they're like, Yeah, we just need you all to go search because at this time they hadn't found one person.
02:13:52.560 -->
02:13:59.039And the place we went to was in Knock County, just over the line from Barrie County.
02:13:59.359 -->
02:14:12.479And we had to you either go with this team, you search a nice straight flat land, and then you're on this side that's nothing but cliffs and riverbank.
02:14:13.600 -->
02:14:16.800So I got blessed to be on the cliff side.
02:14:17.119 -->
02:14:17.279Of course.
02:14:18.079 -->
02:14:18.720Yep.
02:14:19.039 -->
02:14:26.880So we go searching, and immediately there's a smell, and you're like, Well, we know that smell, you know that smell.
02:14:27.439 -->
02:14:32.560The team behind us was canines with cadaver dogs, and they recovered a dog.
02:14:32.960 -->
02:14:35.840Yeah, but there was a whole house under this bridge.
02:14:37.199 -->
02:14:45.600And we get probably about five, six miles down this god-awful cliffside.
02:14:46.000 -->
02:14:48.640You have to go up and down, up and down.
02:14:49.279 -->
02:14:53.920We're scaling the rock face, and I have my radio clicked on my hip.
02:14:54.640 -->
02:15:00.560And we're going down this rock face, and I hear click, and I look down, and there goes my radio.
02:15:00.720 -->
02:15:02.159Boom, boom, bloop.
02:15:03.520 -->
02:15:05.439I about cried.
02:15:05.760 -->
02:15:08.960I tried to jump after it, and I was like, you idiot, there's floodwater.
02:15:09.680 -->
02:15:12.560Literally, the water is swift water right below you.
02:15:12.800 -->
02:15:13.680Yep, gone.
02:15:13.920 -->
02:15:22.000That that was what was you start hearing about flooding part of you know, in in Perry County, in Clay County.
02:15:22.159 -->
02:15:24.159So we're driving, we don't see nothing.
02:15:24.239 -->
02:15:25.359We don't we get to hazard.
02:15:25.520 -->
02:15:30.239Still, you're like, well, you know how Hazard's got the river, whatever runs right through the middle.
02:15:30.319 -->
02:15:32.399You're like, nothing there, was it?
02:15:32.640 -->
02:15:34.399Nothing there, no problem.
02:15:34.800 -->
02:15:40.720Get down to you start to see a little bit of like uh some you know, some toilet paper trees and stuff like that.
02:15:41.840 -->
02:15:43.199And you're like, that's not that bad.
02:15:43.359 -->
02:15:44.720And then you get to Whites.
02:15:44.880 -->
02:15:50.640Well, we went to Whitesburg first, and you're like coming in out of hazard was rough up when you pass the lake.
02:15:51.439 -->
02:15:53.760Yeah, you got to the lake, man, we got bad.
02:15:54.800 -->
02:15:56.560But we were like, okay.
02:15:56.640 -->
02:16:03.840I because I for you know, hazard's down kind of in the whole part of that right there, those homes on the it just it went a different direction or whatever.
02:16:04.159 -->
02:16:04.800It's so weird.
02:16:04.960 -->
02:16:05.520Yeah.
02:16:06.079 -->
02:16:09.600But down there, and they're like, they caught what the upper bottom or something.
02:16:09.760 -->
02:16:11.119I don't know, you have an upper bottom.
02:16:11.199 -->
02:16:12.079Yeah, I don't know what's up.
02:16:12.159 -->
02:16:17.520Um it's just the neighborhood, and you're like, it got up to this high here, and you know, you're like, wow.
02:16:17.760 -->
02:16:26.880And then the other side, and then it, you know, my buddy Nathan, he lived over there, he was from London, moved over there, and he was like, I need to show you something.
02:16:27.119 -->
02:16:29.279He said, You you've not seen anything yet.
02:16:29.439 -->
02:16:34.479So we go over there and meet with this chief of Fleming or Neon, whichever one.
02:16:35.040 -->
02:16:36.639He said, Oh, I'm okay.
02:16:36.799 -->
02:16:38.639I only had about an inch of mud in my house.
02:16:38.799 -->
02:16:39.600I said, Go home.
02:16:39.840 -->
02:16:40.639How do you get to the jail?
02:16:40.719 -->
02:16:42.000He said, Gotta go pipe ball.
02:16:42.079 -->
02:16:42.639I was like, eh.
02:16:43.520 -->
02:16:44.799Don't arrest me, buddy.
02:16:45.120 -->
02:16:46.000Yeah, we guess.
02:16:46.479 -->
02:16:49.040And and you know, you start hearing the people.
02:16:49.280 -->
02:17:00.319I got a chance to meet with um, I did an interview with because we ran ran to a fire call, and they were all like following, they were like, Oh, you all ran out of here on a call.
02:17:00.399 -->
02:17:01.120What was going on?
02:17:01.280 -->
02:17:04.159And it was uh national weather, it was Fox weather.
02:17:04.239 -->
02:17:06.799I'd never I didn't even know about them at the time.
02:17:07.120 -->
02:17:15.280And I did an interview with them, and we we went off, we was live, and I was like, Oh, they was like, Oh, we need somebody who's doing it, and everybody's like, You're the chief dude.
02:17:15.360 -->
02:17:15.920Yeah, you get it.
02:17:16.319 -->
02:17:22.479And um, but I started talking to that guy and I was like, You've not seen it neon yet.
02:17:22.559 -->
02:17:23.120He's a what?
02:17:23.280 -->
02:17:26.639I said, You need to go and you need to get some help here.
02:17:27.200 -->
02:17:35.120And um people were bringing, you know, because Whitzberg did a really good job saying, hey, we need help, we need this and this and this.
02:17:35.440 -->
02:17:39.680And little town like Fleming and Neon, and they don't have that resources of that.
02:17:39.920 -->
02:17:48.959You know, you were talking about a couple hundred people who live there, but we started kidnapping and stealing these cars that all these people had brought in.
02:17:49.120 -->
02:17:50.799We we was carjacking them.
02:17:51.280 -->
02:17:53.280It was like you don't need all those, they need them.
02:17:53.520 -->
02:17:59.440I mean, they was running, they was running F-150 through floodwaters and run them.
02:17:59.840 -->
02:18:01.040They had nothing over there.
02:18:01.440 -->
02:18:02.399You can't imagine.
02:18:02.639 -->
02:18:03.360It was crazy.
02:18:03.680 -->
02:18:04.879Craziest things I've ever seen.
02:18:05.200 -->
02:18:16.879Seeing the roads destroyed, like there was roads waving and seeing all the oil from the cars in the water and just nasty propane tanks floating down the water.
02:18:17.200 -->
02:18:17.920Like that was nice.
02:18:18.159 -->
02:18:19.520The residential propane tanks.
02:18:19.760 -->
02:18:26.319I think I saw about three or four like the big thousand gallon propane tanks just floating down the water.
02:18:26.879 -->
02:18:30.000I'm hoping they get get get it all.
02:18:30.079 -->
02:18:31.840I mean, it's still gonna be there again.
02:18:32.239 -->
02:18:34.719Years of that's been three years ago now.
02:18:34.959 -->
02:18:37.520Yeah, they're still rebuilding homes over there too.
02:18:37.680 -->
02:18:41.440So none of it gets in done and dealt with fast.
02:18:42.159 -->
02:18:45.360It happens in a minute and it's got takes years to recover.
02:18:45.520 -->
02:18:46.159Yeah.
02:18:47.920 -->
02:18:52.000Did did I ever work any calls with you boys that you can think of?
02:18:52.479 -->
02:18:55.680I've I've seen you out on wrecks, I've seen you on a great bunch.
02:18:55.760 -->
02:19:02.799So but um And I'm sure I've sent many of uh overdose or something.
02:19:03.040 -->
02:19:03.840Oh yeah.
02:19:04.799 -->
02:19:05.680Oh yeah.
02:19:06.239 -->
02:19:08.719Uh when when they're fighting after your Nord can't be.
02:19:08.959 -->
02:19:16.319So speaking of overdose, so I was working one night, we get a call for possible overdose at the cookie factory.
02:19:17.040 -->
02:19:21.760So we go down there and uh Drew Jackson was there.
02:19:22.239 -->
02:19:27.600And we walk over to this car and I said, Where's the patient?
02:19:28.079 -->
02:19:30.399And Drew goes, Oh, there he is.
02:19:30.479 -->
02:19:32.239He's under the car, overdosed.
02:19:32.559 -->
02:19:36.000Wow, completely unresponsive, barely breathing.
02:19:36.159 -->
02:19:38.079And I'm like, Drew, we gotta get him out.
02:19:38.799 -->
02:19:42.079So me and Drew are dragging this guy out from under this car.
02:19:42.399 -->
02:19:43.120Him gurgling.
02:19:43.280 -->
02:19:43.760Oh, yeah.
02:19:44.319 -->
02:19:48.239And we get him loaded in the truck, and I'm not with the paramedic.
02:19:48.479 -->
02:19:50.479So it's EMT and EMT.
02:19:50.719 -->
02:19:52.559There really ain't much I can do.
02:19:52.719 -->
02:19:55.760I mean, I could give him narkin up his nose.
02:19:56.159 -->
02:20:01.360We we did that, and uh, I look down, oh boy quit breathing.
02:20:01.600 -->
02:20:03.040I was like, oh no.
02:20:03.760 -->
02:20:08.879Well, about two seconds later, he goes and opens his eyes and he looked at me.
02:20:09.200 -->
02:20:11.520He goes, Where am I at?
02:20:12.159 -->
02:20:14.959I said, buddy, uh, you you died.
02:20:15.120 -->
02:20:18.159And he said, No, no.
02:20:18.799 -->
02:20:21.520I said, Listen, you're not in trouble.
02:20:22.079 -->
02:20:25.760Like, we have to ask him, like, what'd you take?
02:20:25.840 -->
02:20:28.079And he's like, buddy, I didn't take nothing.
02:20:28.319 -->
02:20:30.159Yeah, no, don't want to answer.
02:20:30.799 -->
02:20:32.000And oh no.
02:20:37.920 -->
02:20:41.040I mean, you probably used to at some point in time, but you don't.
02:20:41.440 -->
02:20:43.760They're having a medical merch in there's a way of thinking.
02:20:44.399 -->
02:20:47.200But they don't think uh fentanyl.
02:20:47.440 -->
02:20:48.079Yeah, fentanyl.
02:20:48.319 -->
02:20:49.200Fentanyl.
02:20:49.520 -->
02:20:54.000And Jerry was like, Well, it's a scourge.
02:20:54.159 -->
02:21:06.479I mean, that when that hit, I remember you're talking about when meth hit, and the pills hit hard, you know, the oxycontins and and we still didn't have the overdose oxyfentanol.
02:21:06.799 -->
02:21:07.040No.
02:21:07.280 -->
02:21:18.879When we went with the pills, yeah, when the oxycontin went away, when they made it harder to get than than heroin and just straight up fentanyl stuff started hitting, and that was the worst thing.
02:21:19.040 -->
02:21:35.760I mean the opioid you know, the pandemic it was really ruined generations of it, especially in Kentucky, West Virginia, and Tennessee and wherever, but Ohio, that's south.
02:21:36.000 -->
02:21:41.360But when when uh they couldn't get it so easy, it got worse.
02:21:41.520 -->
02:21:41.840Yeah.
02:21:42.079 -->
02:21:42.959It got way worse.
02:21:43.280 -->
02:21:45.200Well, they were they were cutting everything with fentanyl.
02:21:45.280 -->
02:21:48.719I mean, we had guys with meth cut with fentanyl, which I mean I don't know how that works.
02:21:48.879 -->
02:21:49.920I mean totally opposite.
02:21:50.079 -->
02:21:51.280Yeah, you got it up and down.
02:21:51.440 -->
02:21:52.879I mean, split in half.
02:21:54.959 -->
02:22:02.559Then we had a bad batch of uh Xanax bars that they were pressing, and it was straight fentanyl.
02:22:02.639 -->
02:22:03.920Yeah, it wasn't so it was.
02:22:04.799 -->
02:22:10.159We had like 30 some overdoses in a week or two in the city, not to mention Ford County.
02:22:10.319 -->
02:22:10.479Right.
02:22:10.799 -->
02:22:11.280That's crazy.
02:22:11.520 -->
02:22:13.680And get more Narcan than you ever thought.
02:22:14.239 -->
02:22:14.799Yeah, I know.
02:22:15.040 -->
02:22:28.479You know, when they first gave us Narcan and uh the pharmacist came in, gave us a little quick talk about it, and um we're like, we'll never have to use this.
02:22:30.799 -->
02:22:32.719I was like, we'll save that just in case we get it spotted.
02:22:34.399 -->
02:22:34.799Oh my gosh.
02:22:35.040 -->
02:22:36.559I had to narcate a guy just the other day.
02:22:36.719 -->
02:22:37.840It was a goat roping.
02:22:38.159 -->
02:22:38.799It gets awful.
02:22:39.120 -->
02:22:42.639Went from foot pursuit to taking him to jail.
02:22:42.799 -->
02:22:44.239He ate whatever he had.
02:22:44.399 -->
02:22:47.600I guess it was fentanyl or what heroin or whatever he had.
02:22:47.840 -->
02:22:50.239During the foot pursuit, get him to the jail.
02:22:50.319 -->
02:22:51.920He's starting to all of a sudden.
02:22:52.319 -->
02:22:56.000Yeah, he's he's starting to nod and he's like, I was like crap.
02:22:56.079 -->
02:22:58.399I was like, I gotta get him in here, get him in there.
02:22:58.639 -->
02:23:00.879OD's right in the middle of processing him.
02:23:01.600 -->
02:23:03.760So it's it it turned into a goat rubbing.
02:23:03.920 -->
02:23:07.440But he took eight milligrams of Narcan to get him back.
02:23:07.600 -->
02:23:07.920Get him back.
02:23:08.239 -->
02:23:09.280Y'all remember Flocca?
02:23:09.440 -->
02:23:10.159Yeah, Floca.
02:23:10.639 -->
02:23:12.159Oh buddy, I got a story about Flocca.
02:23:12.399 -->
02:23:13.360Oh, let's hear it.
02:23:13.680 -->
02:23:20.159So I went it was about three o'clock in the morning, and we have two stations, you know.
02:23:20.719 -->
02:23:25.200We get a call in the south end, uh, Appaloosa Trail.
02:23:25.440 -->
02:23:25.840Mm-hmm.
02:23:26.000 -->
02:23:26.479Yep.
02:23:27.360 -->
02:23:28.879Possible overdose.
02:23:29.440 -->
02:23:29.760Okay.
02:23:30.959 -->
02:23:37.040Well, we stood by an area, and SO gets down there, and they're like, Yeah, send him on in London.
02:23:37.280 -->
02:23:37.520Okay.
02:23:38.079 -->
02:23:41.120I walked in and deputy's like, he's right back there.
02:23:41.440 -->
02:23:44.799So I walked back, I had my little flashlight, and I'm like, hello.
02:23:45.520 -->
02:23:48.000Well, this dude just comes out like this.
02:23:49.120 -->
02:23:51.200Just ready to go.
02:23:51.520 -->
02:23:53.040And I said, Oh Lord.
02:23:54.559 -->
02:23:55.600And I said, hi.
02:23:56.000 -->
02:23:58.239And he just he comes right at me.
02:23:58.559 -->
02:24:01.200And I was like, Well, here it is.
02:24:01.520 -->
02:24:07.600So obviously I'm in my defense stage, and he takes a swing at me.
02:24:07.840 -->
02:24:12.879Luckily, I just put my arm up and caught him, and the fight was on after that.
02:24:13.040 -->
02:24:18.719And let me tell you, if you've never fought somebody on Flocca, it's like fighting 400 Mike Tysons at once.
02:24:18.879 -->
02:24:21.520It's wild how str how how stare they get.
02:24:21.680 -->
02:24:21.840Yep.
02:24:22.000 -->
02:24:24.799And a taser will not affect you can't, they don't feel pain.
02:24:24.879 -->
02:24:25.520They don't, you can't.
02:24:25.920 -->
02:24:37.360Meth was that way for a while, you know, and uh I think Flocca, all this stuff is stimul uh like they get this ungodly strength.
02:24:37.600 -->
02:24:42.479So I could imagine I could imagine finding somebody on the what that angel what's that stuff?
02:24:42.559 -->
02:24:48.559Uh PCP 70s and I reckon they was way on the hard.
02:24:48.879 -->
02:24:52.959You've got Molly now and all that MDMT or whatever it is.
02:24:53.440 -->
02:24:54.479I'll tell you a story.
02:24:54.559 -->
02:24:57.600One of our instructors told us in the academy.
02:24:57.920 -->
02:25:04.879He worked, I think it was the Lexington Metro and worked narcotics that he's out on a guy.
02:25:05.040 -->
02:25:09.920This this guy's blowed out of his mind on meth or flocca or something.
02:25:10.000 -->
02:25:12.239One of those one of those hallucinogens.
02:25:12.799 -->
02:25:14.399Can't get him a pain compliance.
02:25:15.280 -->
02:25:16.239He's naked.
02:25:17.280 -->
02:25:22.239In the middle of downtown Lexington, and he's chasing this guy around.
02:25:22.319 -->
02:25:26.879He said, at some point in time, he said it kind of felt like this guy was chasing me around the car.
02:25:28.559 -->
02:25:31.440He said he finally gets him down on the ground and cannot get him.
02:25:31.680 -->
02:25:34.799And he said, he said, you know, it might not have been the best thing for me to do.
02:25:34.879 -->
02:25:38.879He said, but I just happened to look down and he said, I seen that old little flaccid thing.
02:25:39.040 -->
02:25:40.879He said, I just drove my knee right into it.
02:25:41.760 -->
02:25:43.920He said, That pain compliance works.
02:25:46.719 -->
02:25:47.040Oh.
02:25:48.479 -->
02:25:48.799Oh.
02:25:49.360 -->
02:25:50.319It's fun.
02:25:50.479 -->
02:25:52.319I know you got a bunch more.
02:25:52.959 -->
02:25:55.520We can come back and do something because we've been at it.
02:25:55.680 -->
02:25:56.000Yeah.
02:25:56.399 -->
02:25:58.959We're going on two and a half hours.
02:26:00.239 -->
02:26:01.600Time flies when it when we're having a lot of things.
02:26:01.680 -->
02:26:06.719So y'all want to adjourn and redo name later.
02:26:06.959 -->
02:26:07.600Yeah.
02:26:08.079 -->
02:26:09.840This was this is so much fun.
02:26:09.920 -->
02:26:11.440It's good for the soul.
02:26:11.760 -->
02:26:15.920Um I've I've really enjoyed you guys.
02:26:16.479 -->
02:26:19.440It's fun to be around guys I've not got to see you no more.
02:26:19.600 -->
02:26:20.719Honestly, I missed you guys.
02:26:21.040 -->
02:26:22.399Appreciate y'all having us.
02:26:22.559 -->
02:26:22.959Yeah.
02:26:24.479 -->
02:26:24.799Definitely.
02:26:24.879 -->
02:26:26.479It's been a it's been real.
02:26:26.799 -->
02:26:27.440Absolutely.
02:26:27.680 -->
02:26:30.159It's been real, it's been fun, but it ain't been real for days.
02:26:34.639 -->
02:26:35.440All right, guys.
02:26:35.520 -->
02:26:36.239Thanks for coming.
02:26:36.639 -->
02:26:37.840We'll catch you on the next one.