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I want to welcome Vivian Shoven. She is a published author,
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international speaker, creator of several healing arts programs, and owner
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of Infinite Healing from the Stars. She is co host
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of the Infinite Star Connections podcast, and she has been
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featured in j three Films Award winning documentary Extraordinary The Revelations.
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She is also an author in the collaborative number one
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best selling Guiding Grace book series. Vivian Welcome, How you doing.
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I am doing great, So happy to be with you today.
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Thank you for taking the time with me.
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Yes, thank you so much for coming on. I'm very
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interested in finding out more information about yourself and your
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healing modalities. You're a self proclaimed Arcturion hybrid avatar, which
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we're gonna find out more about, and you've also channeled
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profound information about the nature of reality healing modalities like
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I said, so today we're gonna find out more about you,
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your journey and what you've discovered through your experiences. So
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this is your first time on Before we get started,
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let the audience know more about yourself, your background, and
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were you always aware of who and what you really were?
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Yeah, that's a great question. Actually, so being what it
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means being an Octurnian avatar, it's more in the sense
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that I am an doctrine being, and I chose from
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a already and ascendant perspective. I chose to send out
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a sole immanition of my Octurian self into our physical
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form of hybrid form. My body is a hybrid and
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to be able to be boots on the ground beyond
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the Earth in a time where we could perceive that
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the Earth would enter in such a positive and very
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powerful evolutionary process. We know that if you look at
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the timelines and the potential behind the movement of the
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timelines we have forced seen for a long time than
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the Earth along all of life form here and humanity
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and everything will re enter an era of re evolution. Again,
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that means that as much as the Earth has descended
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into a compressed truality polarized reality now that the Earth
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is moving out of that through the old cycles, and
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so there was a lot of discussion with our council,
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and instead of staying in my if you want to
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call this way, my enlightened self as a Nocturnian being,
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I could have chose to stay that way and have
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more communication or point of contact on the planet with
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people who would be chandler or teachers, and I could
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have communicated through the channel this way. But what we
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got to find out is that the level of effectiveness
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to be physically on the planet, it's much more direct
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than with we can do in terms of teaching, in
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terms of coaching, in terms of assistance, rather than going
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through the feel of the earth and everybody else filters,
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because even those those are channels and they provide really
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amazing information, there's still a potential of filtering out what
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is originally transferred to them, because you know, programming emotional
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filters and the capacity of the person itself to receive
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the frequencies and to maintain the potency of that frequency intact.
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So I chose to directly come, if you want to say,
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think of it as a doctrine being wants to be
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on the planet with all of you. But the best
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way to do it was for me to have a
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physical vessel that will allow me to be more functional
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according to the ecosystem of the Earth, the gravitational pull
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through the aspect of it, the density of the frequent seas,
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and so forth. So this is why in reality, who
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you talk to you communicate with is that aspect of
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me as an octrine being and doctrines we know they
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are so ancient and already enlightened in their state. So
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I brought in a soul emanation or a fragment of
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my original doctrine self, and I brought this aspect of
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myself in this physical form so I can be on
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the planet. It's like saying, we want to send you
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on a mission on a serious and you're going to
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be working and living with the Syrian. Well, you're going
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to need to be adaptable that You're going to need
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a physical form that can sustain their climate or their
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planet or you know, the level of living or where
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they are. So you're going to need to have that.
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So we have taken the time to perfect a vessel
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that will allow one of us, and that's me in
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in that case, one of us to be on a
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planet and to be able to function and live among humanity.
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So we can understand truly from the inside, where is
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the level of consciousness, where the blockages, where is the challenges?
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What is really going on? And how can we support
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that evolution the best?
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If that makes sense, it does. How did you become
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aware of who you are and your mission here are?
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Were you just always aware?
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That's a great question. Actually I was always aware, and
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I remember distinctively, even as a young child, one thing
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that even as a baby, you would say, you know,
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even by the age of six months old, I can
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feel that I was in that state of presence. I
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can feel that I was mainly out of my body,
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but just enough to function here. And if I look
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at family members around me, they would say that I
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was a very beautiful but the baby in the sense
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that I was not displaying curiosity of wanting to crawl
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and grab objects and play, and I was more like
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staying there observing. I feel like I was in this
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observation more connectiveness rather than to be physically active. I
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was more active out of the body. And then a
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little bit growing up, even the age of four, I
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can feel that I was. I always felt like a visitor.
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I knew that I was brought back on the planet
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and I was here to learn, assess, experience, connect, whether
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it's relationship with kids at school, whether it's family members,
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whether it's later on, it's observing how overall the conscious
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awareness of humanity, the Earth herself, the ecosystem, how everything
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is shifting. Where are we at a time to observe
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There's so much distinctive breakthrough of evolution. What is the
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challenge in between each level of evolution? You know, what
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is it that human beings are, you know, held on
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by whether it's emotions, the past, whether it's cultural programming,
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whether it's historical. So I've always been in that sense
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of observing it, and even to this day, wherever I go,
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I observe a lot. I feel I connect because I
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use all of my senses. So I can feel the
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vibrational quality of the place. I can understand when people
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pass by me to see in their field, Oh, what's
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going on? Okay that person is I can tell there's
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nervousness in their field, or they're pre occupy, or they're
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on autopilots, or they feel attracted by the energy that
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is around them, so I can see at what level
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And what I do is observe people a lot, and
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I will smile of them. I'll just make a smile
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just to connect, when in reality there's so much more.
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There's a lot of nonverbal communications going on. And this
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is how we are readjusting to see where are we
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in frequencies and vibrational movement on the planet and of
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overall in the population. So this is why I travel
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more and connect and I listen and look at the
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great system to see what needs to be readjusted, how
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can we assist to support the next level of shift.
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So it's always been a very clear knowingness. It's you know,
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it's there's this ongoing transmission of communication that is really flowing,
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like a very teipathic communication that is always there. So
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I can be sitting quietly, you know, in a public
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place or on a bension of park, looking like I'm
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just looking out doing nothing, when in reality, I am
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in deep communications with my integral liked group and then
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they're showing me to a great system or holographic projection
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what this sector is about. As they're influenced by negativity,
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Are there other things going on on the ground, what's
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happening into the transmission. So I'm just sitting there looking
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I'm sitting in the park, but I'm doing a lot
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of work at the same time. So I've always been
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this way. It's nothing new. It's just that how could
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I say my ability has increased over time? I went
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on through a lot of different upgrades. My understanding also
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through compassion, understanding, observation, knowledge, experience have also increased. And
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so this way the feedback I'm getting back to my
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group it's much refined. So they can also transmit all
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energy and work with other delegations. It says, okay, based
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on the one we have on the planet, we can
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see these transmission as shifted, or there's more interference we
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need to help, or there's a you which breakthrough, a
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catalyst coming in we need to reach us. How we're
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going to support that. So it's it's very naturally, it's
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very organic for me because this is who I am,
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even though to you I look human, but not to them.
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To my octure and group, they see me as one
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of them. But to you, I look like one of you.
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And that's the beauty of it. That's why it's such
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an effective bridge of direct communication and interaction.
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Are there others other hybrids like yourself that may not
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even realize that they are? Do you think that there
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are other incarnations on this planet that may have not
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only Arcturian genetics, but other type of extraterrestrials.
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Well, that's that's a very huge umbrella as a question.
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So and I love it. Let's explore I love it. Yeah, okay,
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So let's let's redefine the word hybrid in my case,
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and I will. I'll start with myself and I'm going
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to go into a broader perspective on this. Okay. So
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the hybrid part of myself is my physical body. I'm
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not a hybrid. I'm a noctrine being. I'm a being
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who have a senate a long time ago, and I
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have chosen to send forth a direct aspect of projection
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of myself into a vessel, and that's the hybrid part.
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So my physical vessel was directly engineered by the Electurnians.
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We also been assisted by the Andromedance from what I understand,
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and other groups who helps to perfect that genetic body
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or that vessel so that I can bring I would
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be functioning just enough so I can be on this
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planet functioning in a field that we call a third
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dimensional construct, which is very difficult for us because it's
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super low and super condensed. Who are naturally our body
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is more almost like more like each her roll and
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we vibrate super fast and a very high frequency. So
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imagine if you're this being, I have high frequency, and
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we're going to have to condense you like a ball
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to fit into an ecosystem that vibrates at that level.
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That would be super challenging.
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Right right now, let me ask, are your parents human
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or are they also hybrids of some sort.
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Well, let's just say that I do have a baseline
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of human DNA just enough to create a connection. Think
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of it has a root connection to the earthplane, and
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I chose to do it this way so I can
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have a better connection to the planet and a great
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system of the Earth. So there's an aspect of me,
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but the aspect of me that is human or genetic human,
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it's very low compared to my original octurian DNA or
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genetic material. So yes, the mix has been done in
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a way that it took us a long time to
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perfect that vessel. But the percentage versus what is human
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versus was the other. It's very That's why I'm able
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to retain myself in such a continuous flow of frequency transmission,
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and my body is designed to sustain it. So I
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do have what you will call a human mother, but
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my father is my Octorian father. So that's like I said,
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I have a higher percentage of Octorian genitic material or
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TNA versus the human parts. So we brought in the
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human parts just as an anchor point to stabilize if
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you want, the matrix, and we build the vessel around it,
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and then everything else was done with the Nocturnes and
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the Andromeda, and they supported us in the perfection of
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this vessel. It took us many generations to come to
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be able to stabilize that matrix, so then both genetic
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material will be more compatible with each other. It's a
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very big endeavor. It's not something that you do over time.
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It took us a long time to be able to
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do that. So it was very well planned, which means
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that those who were involved, all the generational term bloodline
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was also we were communicating with them, we were explaining
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the project, so everybody was on board. It was done
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to our sole agreements. Nothing was forced. No one was
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taking another beds that night to the walls, none of
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that thing. It was done into a beautiful sole partnership.
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So it's a sole group that we work with, and
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that sole group are part of what brought me here
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and why I am here today. So I'm very grateful
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for all you know, those who that bloodline, who contributed
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it was part of their sole mission. So I just
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want to redefine it because we do it with high authority,
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with high integrity or turns for masters of light, they
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are a light and beings and so I just want
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to redefine that here. It's it's very it's a very beautiful.
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It's an endeavor of love, it's an endeavor of being
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of service, and it's in response of a calling of
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an entire planet. I'm another guy at Earth. When she
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talks and send her single, we can listen and re
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receive those singles and we can communicate with the planet directly.
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So it's took us a very long time. So this
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is why it's hard for me to put myself in
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the same category of the word hybrid, because it doesn't
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really fit me since it's a more of a prototype.
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There's only one like myself. There's only one because I'm
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a prototype in that way. It's a very we push
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the envelope very hard for me to be here because
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it's very difficult for me to be on a planet.
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It's very challenging, whether it's my respiratory tract, digestive system,
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im immune system, I mean, name it. It's very challenging
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for me to be here. So I'm a prototype in
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that way. Now, without being said, there's many star seed
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on a planet, generation of star seeds, and we know
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star seed sole emanation of group consciousness who come from
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other intergalactic groups, interstellars, galaxies and multiverse, all of it.
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So they come as a sole emanation to encore the
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vibration or the frequency of that corresponding group, and that
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when they come here to support the Earth and a
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multitude of timeline and shift and evolution. So in that sense,
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all these star seeds, it is potentially true that their
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original star group might have added some little additional genetic
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while the mother was pregnant to help the soul to
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better adapt to their mission, So that will be classified
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as a type of hybrid. But you can tell that
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the difference is huge. Usually that star seed will enter
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the consciousness of a body that was made by two
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human beings. And as you understand the reproduction system here, well,
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in my case it's not the case. That's not the
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way it happened at all. So that part of hybrid, well,
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they're very designed to be on the planet. It's very different.
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The impact of how they're responding to the vibration of
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Mother Earth will be very different for them than it
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is for me, for example. That's another example. Yes, there's
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also other form of hybrids that will be a blend
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of either a mother or father human with an extra
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terrestrial parent. We see that, I know, we hear a
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lot about the Grays and other groups and things like that. Well,
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usually these types of hybrids are not meant to live
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on the planet with you. Among humans, They're more meant
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to live with their originals. To our families. It can
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be because they need a genetic stabilization to help or
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save their race, or to help them re evolve back
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into a higher state of consciousness. Many of those races
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who gone through much through technology, they lost something unique,
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They lost that spark of divine connection and what they
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do is that they turn to human beings because there's
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something about you. There's an emanation, a light, there's something
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that you carry in you that is very natural to
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the human race that they say we need that in
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order to rekindle with that part of ourselves. It's not
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necessarily because it's negative. There's a bigger design picture behind it,
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and I know, I know there's also government testing and
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other things, but that's another level. Well, if you look
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at the complexity of the word hybrid, there's nothing to
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be afraid of. If you look at the original genetic
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design or the DNA design or the DNA template of
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the human race, you have so much encoding from multi
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dimensional aspect of you. Many intergalactic groups have come to
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perfect and help, whether it's the play Aliens, when there's
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other groups. So technically you can call yourself a hybrid
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in that sense. However, the human race always meant to
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be able to evolve alongside with the ecosystem of this planet.
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If you come on my planet in my realm, you go, oh,
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this is wonderful, but I'm not designed to live here. Well,
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it's the same thing. I'm not designed to live here,
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but I'm designed to come and support you. That's the difference.
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We're human race. You're here too, more in sync with
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the planet herself, and then you're going to re evolve.
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That's the idea is to return yourself to your original state.
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You're not this three defragmented, polarized, fearful being. That that's
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an illusion, and we see that about you. Why do
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you think we went so much above and beyond to
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bring me to the planet. There's a reason for this.
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That's to help to accelerate a very specific, very powerful
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and empowering reawakening. So, going back to the over hybrid
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I just illustrate it the complexity of how the word
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can be applied and understood in many ways. I hope
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that makes sense.
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Though, yes it does. And I'd like to get your
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thoughts on the opposite spectrum of this. Are there negative
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extraterrestrials that are utilizing some of the same things hybridization,
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even channeling or types of contact to prevent our positive evolution.
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Well, let's be real here. You're absolutely right, and we
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will say so. That's the beauty when you're talking to
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a true, enlightened, already ascendant intergalactic intelligence that which says
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look like on your planet. There's a symbol that you
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recognize called in the end, right, So there's those a
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part of the gin and those are really heavy in
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the end. So what it means is that, yes, they
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are those who have no interest in seeing your wellbeing
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or expanding to your potential and rediscovering remembering at a
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deeper level who you are. There are those who have
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no interest of seeing the original DNA template of the
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human race to re evolve back to its original state,
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which is a much fuller twelve strand completely reactivated template,
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and then from that you can even evolve beyond the
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twelve strand. They are those who prefer to use you
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as slave or workers or servitude, or utilize your energy
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as a feeding source. It is true. Now, it doesn't
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mean that we need to be in fear. No no
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fear everyone, No fear, just light because the counterpart what
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we call the dark light polarity on this planet and
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on other planets too, they do exist, and we have
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encountered them so many times. We are well aware of
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the challenges that humanity has been facing. For me, we
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are well aware. This is why we're here as teachers,
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as guides. We come to help we come to support,
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but we're here to support your reawakening. We're here to
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support your empowerment to says, yes, we recognize there's the
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negative ones. I myself, Christopher, has been interfered with many
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by the negative ones and the dark Dracconians, the dark Reptilians, AI,
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all of this fun stuff, all of it. And believe me,
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they don't see me as a human. They call me octurian. Oh,
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you Aucturians. We want you to stop helping the planet.
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No I'm not gonna do that. You stop interfering in
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the human race. No, you don't one interfering. I'm here
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to help them, remembering who they are, I'm going to
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check them up. Says Hey, you're powerful, stand up with
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each other, grand your power. Bring yourself together. No more
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pickering with each other around religion and terry and resources
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and all of it. Bring yourself back together. That way,
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the negative one has no longer a grip on you.
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There's no longer a separation. It's so busy. When you
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are busy interfering with each other, you don't see what's
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going on on the other range. So, yeah, there are
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those who will gladly utilize genetic material from human for
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their own benefits. Yes, they do exist. Yes, many many
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interplanetary councils are aware of this, including a spiritual erarchy
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who is in charge of overseeing the evolution of the Earth.
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And I can assure you you have many of star
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brothers and sisters who want to see you thriving and
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rising again. But there are those who have no interests
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and that is very true.
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It is Yeah, you mentioned AI. Is this AI something
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of a cosmic nature? Is it man made? Extraterrestrial? Were
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you what are you referring to?
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Yeah? AI is not really men made. It's a phenomenon
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that we eve encounter in other worlds. It comes to
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the point where we see civilization going too fast in
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technology versus the consciousness that comes with that technology. And
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what happened is that that AI. It's more of an
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artificial matrix that is put in place when we see
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that the potential of a race or civilization that is
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on the midst of a huge conscious breakthrough. Then it
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gets intermingled into their world or into their you know,
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how could I say that It's like a false matrix
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that is put on top of their reality. So we
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have to be very mindful about that. Any technology, now
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I'm gonna make I'm going to give you a very
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ridiculous example. Would you give your cell phone all of
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your power? Or in terms of decision making intelligence, right,
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it's ridiculous. Well, AI is the same thing. Now there
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will be those who would say, well, it's useful in
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graphic design and accelerate this, or maybe in medical breakthroughs
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and scientific breakthroughs. What we say, another experience is it
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is a very delicate fine line. The balance is very delicate,
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and right now we see that rising. We found it
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very interesting think about it. We found it very interesting
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that AI is rising now at the point where humanity
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has been awakening more and more over the last three
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four years. I found it very synchronistic.
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Yes, let's talk about the era that we're in right
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now and what seems to be a lot of turmoil
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and chaos. You look back and you can see an
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evolution of consciousness occurring. You can see people waking up
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and becoming aware of the corruption, and they're becoming aware
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of their own true spiritual nature. This seems to have
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been occurring for a little over a few years now,
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but it seems to be intensifying in a way. The
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more that we seemingly are communicating this information and people
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like yourself for bringing this information forward, the more collectively
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we seem to have an understanding and it may be
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easier to navigate these difficult times.
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What do you think, absolutely, and this is why are
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becoming more and more because your frequency is rising on
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the planet, then you're allowing more of your I would
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say masters of light, teachers, enlightened indo galactic ancient ones
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like ourselves and others to come forward. You're becoming more
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receptive and acceptance to receive as kind of teaching and remembrance.
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So we do as it will help you to reactivate
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those ancient memory connectors. That's going to help everyone to
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navigate through those necessary change in structure on your planet
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with more ease, without giving up more of fear or anxiety.
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So I'll tell you what happened and what we see
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in your holographic field. When you're more in fear anxiety
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and you're overly projecting yourself into a possible future or
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super entroled by the past with these old movies playing out,
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we see your feel retracting. So what happened is that
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those who wants to manipulate you, go great, that's what
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we want from you. This is what we expecting from you.
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Give up your power, give us all of your life,
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your energy, your best of you. Then we can tell
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you what's best for you and going and redirect you
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into those fabricated illusionary reality. So this is why it's
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important use your higher discernment. Now, one thing is that
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get out of the lower mind. The mind asks questions,
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but there's no answers. What we mean is open your
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mental field to welcome this higher mental faculties, higher understanding.
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Stop to tap into ancient memories and knowledge, you know,
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start to be able to open your own solocashic record
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field and bring that connection directly to the very point
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center of your being, where your spark is, which is
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your heart center. This is much more than a spiritual cliche.
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This is pretty much the way you want to bring
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yourself back into your empowerment, clarity, sovereignty, freedom, understanding, working
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side by side. But those are great teachers. Those who
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really wants to support you and seize you as equal,
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not as an inferior, but as an equal, then that's
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the way to do it. Why two things very simple.
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Number one, it gets you out of the THEO metrix
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much more and you're getting more stable, You're getting more grounded.
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You can get more like you the way your mind works,
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your heart, utilizing your senses a whole different level. Number two,
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you're becoming more receptive to real guidance, teachings, redirections, being
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able to implement new practices, cultivating this state within you.
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So what you're doing is that you're bringing all this
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energy back to you instead of constantly wasting your energy
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and giving out whether it's upsetting political news, and that's
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what they want, They're going to create exactly what they need.
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You know why because of dark light polarity, whether the government, medical, field, education, historical,
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doesn't matter of what field, no matter, they understand the
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human being in the human template to a t more
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than you understand your own self. So human beings are beautiful, sentient,
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being capable of great compassion. You have these emotions that
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brings you back to creator, that brings you back to
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that point of origination. So if I'm one of those
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who wants to manipulate an entire civilization, what do I
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do I get to understand? What is the sensitivity? How
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it works underderstanding the template, understanding universe systems, and being
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able to play on this all the time. It's like saying,
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I'm going to put I'm going to connect myself to
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a fee to your house directly into the main source
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of power of your house, so I can get a
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portion of that energy back to my house or my system.
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And you will go like, huh know why my build
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is so high everymond or why do I have those
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power urge search all the time in my house? And
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you keep upgrading and you keep giving it power and energy.
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But in reality, what you're doing, you're feeding this other
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feet at the same time. So this is why it's
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really time to recognize that all of these old structures,
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whether it's financial, government, medical education, whether it's you know,
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societal communities, all the old structures that was based on
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a slave design. That's why it's crumbling down. But I
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cannot show you. And we're rising into new ways, and
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I know the transition can be uncertain, We know that
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the transition can be a little bit on you know,
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nerve racking. This is what's going to happen. What's going
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to happen is that you're finally shifting out of that compressing, limiting,
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three D false matrix reality that it's been dictating you
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what you can do, what you cannot do, what's allowed,
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what's forbidden, and here's our rules, and you're redefining all
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of it. This is white so much assistance. What do
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you think is so many star seed that returned to
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the planet. There's so many presents sighting in the sky,
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or you know, I hear my clients every day. This
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being came to me. What does it mean? Well, what
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does it mean to you? Did you ask for more help?
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Did you ask that you're ready to better understand who
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you are, your sole purpose, your true self, your gives
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your ability, there's so much more to you. Well, you're
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seeing the assistance you needed. But it's an assistance that's
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there to help you, walking side by side with you,
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as opposed to nim blame you. That's very different. We're
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not here to enable anyone, We're here to empowered one.
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Now, with this global consciousness evolution, do you see within
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our lifetime that we may have global awareness of extraterrestrials,
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maybe contact, regular contact with these beings.
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Yes, And that's what you call part of the word
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disclosure and the big umbrella of disclosure. That word or
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the semantic the meaning of that word is shifting. This
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is part of becoming more conscious that you are part
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of a very large, multi dimensional intergalactic community and so
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returning into reconnecting with your own origins, your ancestors, you know,
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your connections with these higher intercusmic cosmic intelligence becomes more
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and more normal accepted. Look at all the Aboriginal tribes,
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whether it's the Zumination, the Navarro they could hope, whether
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it's the Algonquin in Canada. It's all over the world,
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even all the way to Sydney or you know in Uluru.
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All the Aboriginal tribes and our elders have oral tradition
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of connecting, welcoming object intra extraterrestrial being connecting with them
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for generations. Why is it normal to them but not
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for the rest of the world. So, yes, this is
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where we are right now. We are re entering a
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more noble, higher cosmic era of reconnecting with different life forms.
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And one of the things that human beings have to
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overcome is to fear anything that doesn't look like you,
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anything that looks different from you. That there's more of
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a fear, energy or nervousness around it. But it's just
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embracing diversity of life. You're reconnecting with your faculty ease
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of true divine empathic responses. So practice with the animals kingdom.
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Practice when you see a pragmentis you know in your
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window or if you see something like if you looked
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close to it bee, where their big eyes and the
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way they look they're magnificent. Well it does. It repractices
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your internal senses to reattune yourself to accept different life
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forms and still be comfortable, be in tune with it.
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So the next three years or so it's going to
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be very I would say essential in that potential of
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reconnecting more consciously. You want to connect with cosmic intelligence, Well,
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be clear about your intentions, be clear about what you
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want to achieve. Are you in alignment with yourself or
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is there a part of you says where my mental
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curiosity wants to talk, but is a part of me
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the background I still have some fear. Well, they're not
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going to force that on you, not the enlightened ones,
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not the assented ones, because if you're a little bit
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too fearful, I'm going to say we want to connect
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with you, but your level, your channel or receptivity are
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closed down by fear. So let's go in dream state
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or in a vision or during a meditation. We're going
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to give you a vision that's more accepted, so you
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can practice readjusting yourself without having fear. And then we
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will come in our holographic field or allographic projection. Then
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we will make more direct connection with you. So those
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are practical and yet very beautifully advanced ways to already
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achieve yourself excellent.
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Let's talk about what we can expect collectively as humanity
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over the upcoming months and years. You talk about that
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we're going to be upgrade redd into this new human,
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this new body template with quantum DNA twelve strands. Talk
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a little bit about what's going to happen to the human.
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Well, it also depends on your state of awareness. Like,
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for example, well recently I did an interview with this
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gentleman who is so ingrained and so convinced of its
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own religion belief system that no matter what we attempt
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to share or to bring another perspective wouldn't be received
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if it was like deflecting of a really thick shield.
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So someone like him, and I don't need to mention
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any names as pointless. But someone like him who tells me, yes,
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you know, and told me that any beings who came,
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or the God who come to this world or real
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and wants to be worshiped and to serve them, if
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you convince our certain belief systems, and that can be
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enough to ingrain you into a certain paradigm of reality,
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and no one will force contact or evolution on you.
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You will still be able to evolve, but within that
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frame that you recognize. So that person, for example, instead
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of having a fluing conversation like we have, all he
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was doing for an hour is reading me the Gospel
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in the Bible to me literally, and I said, there's
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nothing we can do it for you right now because
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you're convinced. So there will be those on the planet,
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that's my point here. There will be those on the
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planet as a soul group of humans who will need
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to continue to evolve based on their religion or belief
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systems or what they're really their paradigm or their reality.
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They build themselves in for generations and eventually those souls
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will come out of it. The masters of why, the
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beings of Light have told me that no matter what,
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it's always evolution. It's just that there's a group of
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soul on the planet that will simply continue to evolve
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in the same level of third dimensional density until they
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have their breakthrough, and then they will have more assistance
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and they will move on to the next stage of
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soul evolution. Now, the vast majority of human beings have
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the potential given to them, but you have to practice that.
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You have to want it, You have to initiate the energy.
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You have to maintain yourself in a constant state of
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more serenity with yourself, serenity and harmony with all there is,
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the universe of the beings. You have to maintain yourself
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in that space to really help to recognize within your
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own internal universe the changes in your DNA. And what
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is the scientific The scientists of your world declare, there's
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only to stry it and everything else is john DNA.
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We always find it very amusing. And what do you
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think is that again? Now, disregard is amazing genetic encoding
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a library of information within you. Just disregard it. This
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is no good, and then focus more of what you
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have and be happy with it. That's a big reversal
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of a thought system that's going on on the planet.
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So what you expect, more reversal of thought system, more practice,
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more desire to recognize what is within you, open yourself
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to communicate with your higher self, your star families. Those
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are here to come to assist you cultivate and maintain
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yourself into a more harmonic place instead of giving out
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to anger, frustration, fear. So think about it. When that happened,
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I'll give yourself step back, bring yourself back into a
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point of zero point or neutrality, and says moving forward,
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I will be mindful of when and how I give
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up my power and my inner piece. So the more
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you're maintaining yourself in a space, the more your physiology
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is also evolving with you. So your body becomes more
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light as opposed to be dense, carbon based. So there's
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a change. There's a change at a cellar level, there's
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a change in your chromosome that start to feel that
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your body becomes more a higher conduit for the light,
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and also your mental faculty start to shift more complex, compassionate,
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intelligent platform that is also bridge with your heart and
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panic responses, divine compassion. You're returning into a more quantum
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human that is meant to be. You've always the designed
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to be this way. So, in other words, to be clear,
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you're shifting out of the all three D mold that
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casts you in terms of dense being that live their life, born,
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live and die, and that's it. You're shifting out of
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these heavy illusionary mold.
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Talk a little bit about what we can expect from
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our own human potential. You talked about how we will
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have more psychic awareness and abilities, but what about physically well,
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be physically changed. Are we going to have the ability
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to live longer lives like it seems our ancient ancestors
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did tell us a little bit about that.
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Yes, it's all interconnected because when your body, your body
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structures become more light and increase its capacity to even
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understand in the code solar frequency solar transmission, and it
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then changes to the grid system. Remember you are in
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symbiotic relationship with the Earth. That means that the Earth
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grid system and her body is shifting. It's accelerating. That
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means your body is start to accelerate. What it means
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is that again it shifts you out of the denser
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three D carbon base heavy energy of a body when
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you have to eat lots of meat and exercise and
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get your muscle going. That's an all three D model.
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You're returning to be more lighter, more the body start
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to really start to shift. Even your cells the way
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they communicate on a quantum level, there's a remembrance like
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a reactivating a very ancient pathway of encoding and now
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is bringing you back out of the three D polarized
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model of the physical body form and more into a higher,
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lighter body that is more in sync with higher fifth dimensional,
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higher vibratory state. So can you imagine even in your bone,
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in the bone marrow the energy to transmission their transmitter
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start to evolve that heavy density muscular systems start to
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get more light, more fluid. So of course everything including
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your brain functions start to evolve. You know, open up
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more than neural cortex, you know, new neural pathways the
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brain symptopsis, getting out of the reptilian brain, instinctual brain
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more into a higher intellectual aspect. Have to reset my camera.
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The energy is so high the equipment can barely keep
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up with me. It does that all the time, believe me.
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But I'm still here one hundred percent so it's a
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physical manifestation while we're talking. Actually interesting, So it really
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all these physical manifestations going to start to match that
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of the higher vibration and remember your state of awareness,
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it comes in in hand. If that makes sense. It does.
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It's very interesting what is occurring with the mainstream disclosure
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coming from our government and mainstream media and also the
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increasing paranormal type of stories that are appearing in our
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news feeds mainly surround surrounding UFOs or extraterrestrials. But it
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seems like these instances are going to be occurring more often,
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and they already are. What are your thoughts on what's
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behind the mainstream disclosure. Is it about rolling out new
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exotic technology for our military. Is it about getting ahead
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of something that they know is going to occur in
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the future. What do you think is occurring behind the
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disclosure that they're letting us know that there is indeed
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something going on with these craft in our skies.
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Well, the thing about this, it's nothing new. If you
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really look at all of your movie, scientific movies, TV series,
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speeches from former president and all of it in you know, institutions, government,
717
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they always been talking about this. It's simply been the
718
00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:47.159
skies more discreetly or taking into a way that was
719
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:50.239
just a random phrase, or you know, it was just
720
00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:54.039
a random fun TVC that came out, like Star Trek
721
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:55.760
back in the sixties, What do you think it was.
722
00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:59.880
Star Trek is disclosure and it's nothing about science fiction
723
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:02.679
is telling you about the Federation. It's telling you about
724
00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:06.920
how things are moving. It is a form of disclosure.
725
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:11.320
But if you look today, we're more attuned. So what
726
00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:17.360
was discreetly brought to you over many generations now it's
727
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:22.199
they can no longer truly hide all of these you know, technology,
728
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:26.159
or they've been interacting with a multitude of itty races
729
00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:29.519
that lives with you on the planet at different places,
730
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different locations, or work side by side with military. It's
731
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not necessarily always for negative or for destructions. Sometimes it is,
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and sometimes it's just these groups are more neutral, like
733
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the Tall White for example, I forgot the name of
734
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the gentleman who was a whistle blower who talks about
735
00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:53.400
when he was in the military being assigned to a
736
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:56.639
base like out of nowhere in the desert, and these
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itty beings, those groups live there with them, and it
738
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:04.719
was going to interact with them, and they're not negative,
739
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:07.679
they're more neutral. They're not here really to help, but
740
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.320
they're more neutral, and they need to live on this
741
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:14.880
Earth because their planet was destroyed or something happened. That's
742
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:17.840
a level of what's been going on. You're going to
743
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:23.800
start using more discernment to understand what level of disclosure
744
00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:27.400
belongs to what and what is it really telling you
745
00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:32.840
about your Earth history. It's just simply reminding you that
746
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:37.039
it's a natural phenomenal that's been going on for a
747
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:42.440
very long time, but it's been disguised in ways or
748
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:47.920
you know, projection or comic books and conference and or
749
00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:50.599
things like that. But now more and more people are
750
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:53.559
coming out. Look at the nineteen forty seven crush and
751
00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:58.039
ros Well. Okay, now a year ago, I was on
752
00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:01.400
Rosewell because I have good friends there. I was in Roswell.
753
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So my husband and I which we pinpoint on the
754
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map where the site, the crashing site is, And you
755
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think about twenty twenty three versus nineteen forty seven is
756
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:17.840
a big gap of Tommy between right. So I'm in Roosevelt.
757
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:21.280
My husband and I are driving out of nowhere in
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the rain. It's overcasts, and we found the north gate,
759
00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:34.960
part of the crash site where the alleged flying saucer
760
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:38.360
crashed on the land of this ranch land right, do
761
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let me ask you this question in twenty twenty three,
762
00:52:41.320 --> 00:52:44.159
even to this day, we're is sitting by the road
763
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park looking outside of there was a big fence. Outside
764
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:52.559
of the fence, not even rattling it, doing nothing with
765
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:55.000
the fence. But what I did as I sent a
766
00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:59.320
telepathic communication to the land and I asked to be shown.
767
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:02.519
So I opened the hoellographic field because I had these
768
00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:06.840
faculties and I can see memories of what took place.
769
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:10.119
Did you know that within ten to fifteen minutes we
770
00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:16.840
were intercepted by three suv. Ahea, it's raining out of nowhere,
771
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:21.599
a little tiny one way road out of in the field.
772
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:25.920
We do nothing. We don't try to jump it or
773
00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:29.360
grab things. We do nothing. All I do is to
774
00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:33.119
be there in this and I call upon my octrine
775
00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:37.519
indigation and he opened the field and I start to communicate. Now,
776
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:42.360
how was I supposed to be interfered or intercepted out
777
00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:46.159
of nowhere when there's no camera, there's no helicopter above
778
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:50.280
my head, and yet three suv were rushing towards our
779
00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:55.280
location rushing. So I got back in the car and
780
00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:58.519
we took off. When we got back to our hotel,
781
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:02.440
and we park in the parking lot. Just by the
782
00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:05.000
time we got back back in the hotel, there was
783
00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:09.840
already an Air Force car. A vehicle from the US
784
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:13.519
Air Force came and parked right next to us and
785
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:18.440
stayed there for a while. Wow, that's nineteen forty seven,
786
00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:24.880
twenty twenty three, but that's just closer for you. And
787
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:27.000
that happened to me a year ago. It's like it
788
00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:27.960
was ten years ago.
789
00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:35.599
Yes, Are you aware of any other hybridization programs from
790
00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:40.039
other races that may not be all benevolent that may
791
00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:44.679
be more of a service to self agenda or even
792
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:49.000
neutral like you were saying, where they are doing hybridization
793
00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:50.840
experiments on humans.
794
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:56.039
Is that part of a reality, Yes, but you have
795
00:54:56.119 --> 00:55:00.920
to understand this reality. It's a huge, multi mentional word
796
00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:04.840
because it's going to be a multitude of reality that
797
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:08.639
is unfolding all at once. It is just as diversified
798
00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:13.519
as the word timeline. So what we recommend is, I
799
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:18.880
acknowledge there's a lot going on, but choose what reality
800
00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:24.320
you really want to focus on. Lift experience and co create.
801
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:29.920
So I will simply say one thing about this my mission.
802
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:33.519
I am sent through the High Council of the Auctorians.
803
00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:36.760
I am part or so of the High Pristess Council
804
00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:39.880
of twelve. In our realm, I'm a very advanced being.
805
00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:44.719
My role it's to assure that in the future timeline
806
00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:48.079
the Earth is sent back again. This is what my
807
00:55:48.199 --> 00:55:51.400
role is about. My role is to ensure that as
808
00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:55.880
many soul as it is allowed will also reascent along
809
00:55:56.039 --> 00:56:00.800
with the Earth. This is my focal point. However, without
810
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:04.000
being said, because I'm an Octurian, I get a lot
811
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of interference from the dark light. And what I know
812
00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:12.800
it's because in the last few months, a good friend
813
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:17.400
of mine, who is a filmmaker, award winning filmmaker, call
814
00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:23.280
me and says, Vivian, I was contacted by a reptilian
815
00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:27.320
being and he mentioned you. This being mentioned your name,
816
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:29.679
but they don't mention my name, but they mentioned me.
817
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:33.360
So I got a phone call with my friend, who
818
00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:38.159
is a very down to our gentleman. We're a good reputation,
819
00:56:39.239 --> 00:56:44.679
award winning filmmaker, an author, very well established, not a
820
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:47.280
type of guy who will dive into more into those
821
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:50.480
conspiracy theory things like that. Just give you some background here.
822
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:53.719
He was freaked out on the phone, and I said,
823
00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:56.880
we're going to send the record straight, bring it back
824
00:56:56.920 --> 00:57:02.960
into your power. What happened this reptile on being use
825
00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:08.840
one of his electronic device to communicate with them. Tell
826
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:14.719
him that apparently they're working on this hybrid race. Then
827
00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:17.639
they want to mix human DNA with their own and
828
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:21.239
they're gonna you know that he wanted, you want my
829
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:23.559
friend to be a part of it, and you know,
830
00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:28.280
kind of more bringing intimidation and fear. And then he
831
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:31.719
said to my friend, he said, oh, on a side note,
832
00:57:32.599 --> 00:57:38.639
your octurian friend is of no no consequence to us.
833
00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:41.920
We don't care about her. And I smiled and I
834
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:45.400
told my friend, I said, if this reptilian being who
835
00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:48.639
was really managed just to contact you as an attempt
836
00:57:48.719 --> 00:57:51.719
to convince you, because you're a filmmaker and you may
837
00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:55.360
have some influence in the industry or whatever you have
838
00:57:55.639 --> 00:58:01.039
resources with, was attempting to convince you to join our cause,
839
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:04.559
why does this being fel the need to mention me.
840
00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:07.679
That's because again they don't see me as a human.
841
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:13.199
They understand that our presence on the planet is a
842
00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:18.280
game changer. We're shifting the frequencies. We're constantly modulating the
843
00:58:18.360 --> 00:58:22.400
frequencies back into a higher pure form of frequencies of light,
844
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:26.119
which come to part what they want to do, which
845
00:58:26.199 --> 00:58:32.639
is installing more fear matrix. So this supposedly hybrid rays
846
00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:36.559
that they're working on, while in reality, what I did
847
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:39.280
is I brought it back to the high console and
848
00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:43.440
I said, I want to have a decree made, a
849
00:58:43.559 --> 00:58:46.440
new treaty made on behalf of the Earth that will
850
00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:51.360
prevent these beings for doing this kind of false hybrid
851
00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:58.039
matrix reality push agenda in an attempt to again divide
852
00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:01.800
retract in many plays, So we have to be mindful
853
00:59:01.920 --> 00:59:07.159
in terms of whatever we hear. Sometimes it is put
854
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:11.840
in the field with the hope that as many people
855
00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:15.440
as possible will grab onto it so it can become
856
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:19.679
a manifested reality. It doesn't mean it's a manifested reality
857
00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:23.960
just yet, but they need your participation. And that is
858
00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:27.559
only one example of this, and that just happened a
859
00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:28.280
few months ago.
860
00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:32.199
Wow, now we've got a few minutes left. Do you
861
00:59:32.360 --> 00:59:37.159
think that within our lifetimes, if we are in this
862
00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:43.519
ultimate positive timeline and we are embracing the positive changes,
863
00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:48.880
and we're evolving our consciousness in the correct ways that
864
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:55.360
we may see a lifetime without this dystopian control system
865
00:59:55.639 --> 00:59:58.119
over our heads. Do you think that it's possible for
866
00:59:58.199 --> 00:59:59.840
that to crumble in the near future.
867
01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:04.199
Absolutely, And I would say that the bridge of a
868
01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:09.039
three D reality that is implying that control structure is
869
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:13.599
barely holding on by your threat. It is more it's
870
01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:17.280
weaker that it seems. And this is why we are
871
01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:22.639
stressing so much today, the importance to really understand what
872
01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:27.679
reality you wants to feed, because your God given light,
873
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:31.880
the power of what you carry within you, who you
874
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:36.920
really are as you are a cosmic internal being, and
875
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:40.320
only as spark of you is having this human experience
876
01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:47.000
right now. So imagine utilizing that energy. Says I choose
877
01:00:47.519 --> 01:00:52.880
to be part of this New Earth ascension reality, I
878
01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:56.760
no longer wish to partake. I have nothing else to
879
01:00:57.400 --> 01:01:03.960
learn or evolve from. This really paradigm of being perceived
880
01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:06.960
as a linear being really past present future, that's all
881
01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:10.679
there is. This is ludicrous. You are not a linear being.
882
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:14.360
You're a multi dimensional being to begin with. So getting
883
01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:18.880
out of that restricted box with a control structures, whether
884
01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:24.320
it's rs, tax, government, military, all of it. Remember one thing, though,
885
01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:28.840
there are light workers everywhere, whether it's working for the government,
886
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:34.239
military structures, there are light workers everywhere. So call upon
887
01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:38.559
the light workers who are working at the level of structures,
888
01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:44.320
because those structures are transforming. We are in the midamorphosed
889
01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:48.400
stage right now. It can be difficult kicking, screaming fear,
890
01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:51.639
or it can be you know what, I trust more
891
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:56.920
and I'm going to bring myself back into this quantum
892
01:01:57.119 --> 01:02:00.360
universal part of me. And I know that all these
893
01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:05.079
structure that seemingly crumble down right now, it's because it's
894
01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:12.360
like saying, this beautiful field holding a very old village,
895
01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:16.440
and these structures back in the eighteen hundreds are barely
896
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:20.320
holding and they becoming more a contamination to the field.
897
01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:23.639
Would you holding on to this building out of claiming
898
01:02:23.719 --> 01:02:27.320
it's historical or would you let them go and let
899
01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:30.199
them those structures crumble to the ground so they can
900
01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:35.280
be released, rejuvenate the field and create something new instead.
901
01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:41.360
And that's what you're looking at. It's finally happening. Generation
902
01:02:41.719 --> 01:02:47.559
and generations of star beings, star seeds, and masters coming
903
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:51.880
back to the planet in human form to help to
904
01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:56.079
finally bring the planet back to its original point. It
905
01:02:56.239 --> 01:03:00.360
is more than time. But again, you have a voice.
906
01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:05.119
You are very powerful being. Where you invest your belief system,
907
01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:10.320
your emotion, your thought, and your energy into can be manifested.
908
01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:15.679
So what reality are you really really to embrace? Be
909
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:20.320
with us, walk with us. It's time, This is your time.
910
01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:23.400
And the Earth is ready and she's shifting. Ready or not,
911
01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:29.239
she is shifting. And this is part of descending. Now
912
01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:33.639
the planet descended and now it's reascending again. It's you're
913
01:03:33.679 --> 01:03:38.480
simply it's a grand return. You're returning to reclaiming what
914
01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:42.679
is your natural That is your nature, what is organic
915
01:03:42.800 --> 01:03:48.559
in you, not fabricated through those authority. This is why
916
01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:52.440
your DNA is shifting. There's some genus getting out the
917
01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:56.199
gene of you know, obeying your masters and and and
918
01:03:56.760 --> 01:03:59.440
you know, feeling yourself if you feel the gods and
919
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:03.519
and higher authority and all of it, this gene of
920
01:04:03.679 --> 01:04:07.280
manipulation all be put in place by other groups to
921
01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:10.920
make a class worker out of you. I'm sorry, but
922
01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:13.920
you're not a class worker at all. You are those
923
01:04:14.079 --> 01:04:18.440
rial galactic royalties with all the genetic material that you're
924
01:04:18.480 --> 01:04:22.079
carrying you it's phenomenal and one day when you start
925
01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:24.800
to realize that you're going to go, I got out
926
01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:29.440
of this dream. What was I dreaming about? Yeah, this
927
01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:32.920
is what's going on. So no fear, everyone, stay in
928
01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:37.719
your light, stay in your empowerment, reclaim your sovereignty, three
929
01:04:37.880 --> 01:04:43.039
yourself from the mental construct, and there's no need to
930
01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:47.320
be wild by words like disclosure and whistle blower and
931
01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:53.519
of it. It's natural. You finally be accessing natural archive
932
01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:57.400
of history. This has been covering your planet for generations.
933
01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:01.880
So take it for not going to a salt and discernment.
934
01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:07.159
Wonderful, Vivian, this was fantastic information. I would definitely love
935
01:05:07.239 --> 01:05:09.199
to have you back on in the future. There's much
936
01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:13.039
more we can discuss, but before you leave today, let
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the audience know how they can find out more about
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you and access some of the things you have to offer.
939
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And thank you so much. I appreciate that. So we
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meeting with members where we do global initiative work plany
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work we do also healing together. We answer questions. We're
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helping you to shift and evolve and we're here to
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supporting you this way. And so the doctrin Olographic Group
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Healing every month plus the online community and we have
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members from all over the world and it's wonderful to
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see light minded people coming together. The quality of the
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members that we have is phenomenal in the level of support.
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It's meaningful, make you feel that you belong and it
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helps you to remember the pathway that isn't calling you
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and we offer a lot, So that would be a
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great way to work with us and be in the
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frequencies on more regular basis. You can really start to
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feel a transformation for you and how it applies to
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your life.
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Excellent, Vivian, thank you so much. This was great. We'll
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do it again soon and until next time, everyone have
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an excellent evening. We will be talking again today. I
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want to welcome back to the show Phoenix Aurelius. He
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is a philosopher, alchemist, spajirist, agriculturist, teacher, and the founder
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of the Phoenix Aurelius Research Academy, where he performs in
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depth research in a vast variety of subjects for the
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development of Aurelian medicine and alchemiculture. His focus since twenty
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fifteen has been to pioneer a new field of medicine
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for the twenty first century and beyond, which he calls
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Aurelian medicine. He also invented an entire movement called alchemiculture,
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which offers a philosophical approach to human existence designed for
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the modern world using alchemical principles. He is also host
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of the alchemiculture podcast Phoenix Welcome back. How you doing.
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I'm doing great, man, Thank you so much for having
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me back.
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Thank you for coming back. I really enjoyed our last conversation,
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looking forward to this one. You're working with some alchemical
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modalities that could possibly change the way we utilize medicine,
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and you bring back ancient alchemical practices that have incredible
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benefits for humanity and provide lost understandings of things like alchemy, magic, medicine,
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and the metaphysical realms that hold our existence together. So
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I can't wait to get into some of the things
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you're working on. But first, it's been a while. Remind
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the audience about yourself and what led you down your
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path here.
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Yeah, totally. So most people kind of know me for
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my alchemical work, and admittedly that's a huge portion of
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what I do. So basically, really I run Phoenix Relias
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Research Academy, and I focus on two main things there.
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One is trying to advance a field of spigeric medicine,
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which was invented by Paracelsus in the fifteen thirties and
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was healing things like, yeah, epilepsy for sure, but plague
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and syphilis and leprosy and all sorts of different types
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of things in the fifteen thirties. He was way ahead
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of his time. Unfortunately, his ideas didn't hold up to
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the scientific revolution during the discovery of things like oxygen
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and other things as other elements, and they kind of
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just threw the baby out with the bathwater and wanted
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to distance themselves from alchemy all together during that time.
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And so what I've done is I picked up a
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whole lot of his material, in fact, all of it,
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and have translated it into English and relied on other
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translations too, And I'm reconstructing this in the twenty first
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century with modern chemical terms and modern technologies and other
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things like that, and trying to bring it back because
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most people don't understand that the root of our pharmaceutical
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technology actually goes back to Paracelsis himself. The entire fields
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of toxicology, the entire fields of pharmaceutical chemistry, which is
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known as eatro chemistry, all has its roots in Paracelsus,
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just one dude, and they have completely bastardized the technologies
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that he created. Everything is supposed to be coming from
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a single material that is being worked on, and the
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minerals are supposed to be coming from the thing that's
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being worked on, not you know, bastardized petrochemical wastes that
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are you know, synthesized and other things in order to
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be able to elicit an effect. It's like when we
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use nature, we get a much better effect. And he
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has a very pure method of doing that. So bringing
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that into the light of modern day is probably one
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of my greatest passions. And because my work differs so
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much from Paracelsus work by term you know, terminology and
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technologies that have you know, come to write since the
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fifteen thirties and other things, we've decided to call this
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auralians Bageeria, again, just naming it after myself, Phoenix Aurelia.
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So so that's one thing, and then the other thing
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that I focus on is alchemiculture, which is a broad
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and very encompassing sociological application of alchemy that applies to
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our entire culture as human beings. And so we focus
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on areas like you know, politics and governance and the
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ideas of like rulership, and what are the alchemical principles
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behind that, or how can we utilize alchemical principles in
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order to create more better systems or systems that are
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more perfect than what we have at present and just
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kind of lead us to the next evolution. And so
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we apply this to just about every aspect of human existence.
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And I've been researching this for at least since twenty twelve.
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But it's also a huge passion of mine and something
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that I love to teach about. So that's those are
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the main things that I do.
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I think a good place to start would be a
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little refresher on the difference between alchemy and the modern
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practice of how we produce pharmaceuticals in modern medicine.
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Sure. Yeah, So again, I want to address this from
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the perspective of like Paracelsian alchemy, because he revolutionized alchemy,
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and pretty much all alchemical practices since that time have changed.
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If we look at it before Paracelsus, there were entirely
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different theories and cosmologies extending all the way back to
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far ancient Egypt that we have written records of at
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any rate. So with that being said, yeah, alchemy's whole basis,
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when you look at it as objectively as possible, is
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that everything is in a constant state of transformation. Modern science,
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you know, and science classes we learned that energy has
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neither created nor just desroid, that energy is only changing form.
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And if we were to say change form, the another
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word that we can use is transform. So if energy
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is constantly transforming and nothing stays the same, then and
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alchemy is the art and science of transformation, then kind
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of understanding alchemy gives us an understanding to everything and
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how it's working, where it's at now, where it was
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coming from, and where it's going. When we apply this
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to medicine, we have to take a look at the
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evolution of the natural material or materials that we're trying
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to elicit a medicinal response from. And the idea within
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the alchemical paradigm since the time of Pythagoras has essentially been,
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at least in the West, has been that we as
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human beings are kind of the pinnacle of creation here
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on earth because everything else as you go down the
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chain is more pure in its essence, but it's less
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complex in its constitution. So like if we take a
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look at a metal, metals are literally only just one
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style of atom, and there's usually a couple of different atoms.
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You know, they're not usually just monoatomic. They're like diatomic, triatomic,
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or the multi atomic we can say. And when you
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take a look at their crystalline patterns, they have very
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specific crystalline patterns to that metal based on the way
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that the metal forms. But at its basis, it's just
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one atom. It's just one type of intelligence, one elemental form.
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Of intelligence, and so they're very very pure, but they're
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not very complex. Eventually, metals get acted upon by say,
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you know, oxygen, and they turn into oxides, or they
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get acted upon by carbon and they turn into carbonates
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or nitrogen get you know, turned into nitrates or nitrites,
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and so on and so forth. In those form minerals.
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Minerals now have two of these atomic forms in them,
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and so they're still very pure, but they're less pure
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than metals. And then when you go into the vegetable kingdom,
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and then the animal kingdom, and then eventually into the
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human kingdom, we continue to see that we are less
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and less pure the more evolved the life form is.
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But it's far more complex, with human beings being the
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most complex. But because we're at that complexity, that vast complexity,
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we are composed of all of nature, and we contain
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all of nature within us. We need with the exception
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of maybe mercury, like we need lead, we need arsenic,
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We need all of these substances inside of us in
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addition to you know, magnesium and calcium and huge supplies
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and you know, chloride and sodium and all of these
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other different types of elements and minerals, and we eat
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the plants, and we eat the animals, and we eat
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you know, all of the other things in nature. They
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are a part of us. Their intelligence is contained within us.
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And the idea really behind alchemical healing is that each
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of those things in nature has a certain elemental balance
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to them, a certain type of composition of fire, air, water,
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and earth. Is the way it was conceived of before
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the time of Paracelsus. After Paracelsus, he said that everything
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has a balance of sulfur, mercury and salt, or soul,
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spirit and body, and that we can draw upon all
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of these other things from nature that we're composed of
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and be able to purify through the alchemical arts, their soul,
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their spirit, and their body or these four elemental forms,
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depending on you know, which branch of alchemy and that
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you practice, and what type of philosophies you want to use,
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but that we are able to call upon these things
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and use the alchemical arts to purify them in order
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to bring the body back into balance. Now this stands
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at a vast opposition to the pharmaceutical route, which is
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to say that the body is just biomechanical. It's a
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very Newtonian stand point, and it's like cause and effect,
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and if you have this thing, then this thing has
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the chemicals that you might be lacking or can trick
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the body into thinking that it has these things, et cetera.
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And you begin to just create substances to try and
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create a biomechanical change in the organism. There's no spirit involved,
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there's no soul involved. In fact, what ends up happening
1133
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a lot of times is that anytime that you synthesize something,
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the moment that something is in flux. And this is
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something that I have been able to see and I
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can demonstrate to people in the laboratory when something is
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in flux, Like if we take alcohol, we apply heat
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that turns that thing into flux because the alcohol that
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was liquid is now able to become as buoyant as
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air and rise as a vapor and in that moment
1141
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that it is rising from its vapor estate or condensing
1142
01:17:55.479 --> 01:17:58.680
back into a liquid, either of those points. It is
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01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:05.239
highly impressionable to the thoughts, to the emotions to cosmic forces,
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which you know people are like, oh, cosmic forces, but
1145
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literally I'm talking about electromagnetic signatures here that are present
1146
01:18:13.239 --> 01:18:15.319
from the stars that are reaching us if we can
1147
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see their light, and we're limited to the electromagnetic spectrum
1148
01:18:20.680 --> 01:18:23.520
with our vision. Even there are all sorts of different
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01:18:23.560 --> 01:18:25.479
types of forces that are at play all the time,
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01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:28.399
and these forces are able to imbue themselves into things
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01:18:28.479 --> 01:18:32.479
that are in a state of flux. And when the
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fontutical industry hires people who are they don't care if
1153
01:18:36.800 --> 01:18:39.399
the technician is having a day or doing this or whatever.
1154
01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:45.159
They're just forcing chemical flux to happen and changing and
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01:18:45.239 --> 01:18:50.399
synthesizing substances. And when you do that, those emotions, those thoughts,
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01:18:50.720 --> 01:18:55.239
those frequencies, those entities quite literally are able to make
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01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:57.880
their way in there. And so we see the highest
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instance actually of like possession from people who are taking
1159
01:19:02.520 --> 01:19:06.239
pharmaceutical medications, largely because of the environment that they're created
1160
01:19:06.319 --> 01:19:09.760
in and the lack of awareness of these spiritual and
1161
01:19:10.279 --> 01:19:13.920
soul based types of frequencies and how they interact with matter.
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So alchemy is a very multi dimensional and holistic way
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01:19:19.039 --> 01:19:22.920
of approaching health and wellness, utilizing the soul, the spirit,
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01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:25.239
and the body in these different forms of consciousness of
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all materials in nature. Whereas when we're just doing pharmaceuticals,
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we're just trying to do elicit a biomechanical approach, and
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it's oftentimes bastardized missing from my perspective two thirds of
1168
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the important equation of our entire humanity and reality.
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Now, you said something very intriguing that I want to
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dive deeper into. Is that things that we're working with,
1171
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whether it's scientific or medical or alchemical, things that we're
1172
01:19:54.199 --> 01:19:58.680
creating ourselves, our state of mind, our state of emotion
1173
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is a extremely important to be a good one whenever
1174
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we're working with this, because we can release some of
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these energies or like you say, entities into the product
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that we are trying to create.
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Is that right?
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Yeah?
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Absolutely, Yeah, that's you know, I think that if there's
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just like one really important thing that I could impart
1181
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onto people, it's that thing. Like you know, and all
1182
01:20:27.039 --> 01:20:29.279
of us actually have experience with this, we just don't
1183
01:20:29.439 --> 01:20:31.600
like tie it into everything else. We're just not putting
1184
01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:34.960
two and two together. Like when you were sick, Mom
1185
01:20:35.039 --> 01:20:37.960
may have made you some chicken soup, and when she
1186
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did that, she wasn't just like completely stressed and pissed
1187
01:20:42.319 --> 01:20:46.520
and whatever else. She's thinking about your wellness and trying
1188
01:20:46.640 --> 01:20:49.239
to get you it's like it's a sacrifice of love
1189
01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:53.119
that is going into that chicken soup. Now, whether the
1190
01:20:53.239 --> 01:20:56.479
chicken itself was sourced really well or can cause cellular
1191
01:20:56.600 --> 01:21:02.479
inflammation or whatever else takes background, that's not the precedent here,
1192
01:21:02.640 --> 01:21:05.960
because it's the energy that went into the thing that
1193
01:21:06.159 --> 01:21:10.119
is actually healing us on some degree, regardless of the
1194
01:21:10.159 --> 01:21:13.920
physical materials that actually go into it. Because again we're
1195
01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:16.960
multidimensional beings. You know, we have a spiritual body, We
1196
01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:19.800
have this causal body. We have an astral body that
1197
01:21:19.920 --> 01:21:22.079
is kind of composed of the mental and the emotional,
1198
01:21:23.119 --> 01:21:25.279
and then we have an etheric body, which is purely
1199
01:21:25.359 --> 01:21:30.199
electromagnetic interface. It's a piezo electric interface that exists throughout
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01:21:30.199 --> 01:21:34.880
our entire fascia inside of our network, our physiological network.
1201
01:21:34.920 --> 01:21:37.079
And then we have a physical body that is just
1202
01:21:37.520 --> 01:21:40.359
you know, atoms and molecules and tissues and cells and
1203
01:21:40.439 --> 01:21:41.880
so on and so you know, organs and so on
1204
01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:46.600
and so forth. And physical stuff affects the physical body,
1205
01:21:47.800 --> 01:21:51.439
emotional stuff affects the emotional portion of our astral body,
1206
01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:54.640
and the thoughts affect the astral the mental part of
1207
01:21:54.680 --> 01:21:59.000
our astral body. The geometries, the crystallizations, the coherence, the
1208
01:21:59.079 --> 01:22:01.960
cause and effect, the affect, the causal plane, and the
1209
01:22:02.119 --> 01:22:05.880
sense of oneness and our connection back to the source
1210
01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:08.840
of all creation. However we want to conceive of that,
1211
01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:11.359
there's no right or wrong way. There's myriad ways of
1212
01:22:11.560 --> 01:22:15.079
looking and philosophizing about that. But our connection to that
1213
01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:20.159
is what ties us back into spiritual well being. And
1214
01:22:20.279 --> 01:22:22.920
so when mom is making these things, she has the
1215
01:22:23.039 --> 01:22:26.199
emotional resonance of God, I'd hate my baby to be sick,
1216
01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:29.119
you know, and the mental concept of I need my
1217
01:22:29.239 --> 01:22:33.239
baby to be well, and the physical, you know, healing
1218
01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:36.119
stuff that goes in it. You know, you all of
1219
01:22:36.199 --> 01:22:40.239
your carrots that have carotenoids and beta carotene and stuff
1220
01:22:40.279 --> 01:22:43.439
like that, and you know celery that has these things
1221
01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:48.600
that reduce cellular inflammation, the bone broth that is from
1222
01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:52.159
boiling the whole chicken down, if you know, if she
1223
01:22:52.319 --> 01:22:54.640
wasn't just making it with chicken breast, maybe even the
1224
01:22:54.720 --> 01:22:57.199
homemade noodles, and the love that goes into that and
1225
01:22:57.239 --> 01:22:59.840
all these other things. So it's it's approaching us on
1226
01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:03.840
the multi dimensional level. And so cooking and you know,
1227
01:23:04.039 --> 01:23:07.560
kitchen witchery is oftentimes the way that I discuss and
1228
01:23:07.680 --> 01:23:10.880
teach about that from a kind of a more entertaining view.
1229
01:23:11.319 --> 01:23:14.920
These days, those types of things are really critical because
1230
01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:17.479
we have the ability to imbue things during the state
1231
01:23:17.600 --> 01:23:20.720
of that boil, that flux again that that material is
1232
01:23:20.800 --> 01:23:23.399
going through. Same thing with making infusions and teas and
1233
01:23:23.479 --> 01:23:26.520
whatever else. But when we engage in alchemy, we're not
1234
01:23:26.760 --> 01:23:31.000
just eliciting a small change, we're eliciting a whole progressive
1235
01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:34.479
series of changes, so that the material that we started
1236
01:23:34.520 --> 01:23:38.359
with is no longer even recognizable in its energetics or
1237
01:23:38.600 --> 01:23:41.840
its capacity, because we've extracted the soul, the spirit, and
1238
01:23:41.880 --> 01:23:45.800
the body of these materials and perfected each of those
1239
01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:49.640
and then recombined it back together. So at its lowest sense,
1240
01:23:50.079 --> 01:23:53.359
it is now an exalted form of what it initially was,
1241
01:23:53.800 --> 01:23:58.000
and at its greatest potential, it is entirely transformed to
1242
01:23:58.439 --> 01:24:00.399
such a degree that you can't even tell that it
1243
01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:02.600
would have come from that initial material.
1244
01:24:02.880 --> 01:24:07.720
So, now going deeper into the materials that you're utilizing,
1245
01:24:08.119 --> 01:24:11.479
you mentioned several times the spirit of this material, and
1246
01:24:11.880 --> 01:24:15.840
the more collectively that we understand about the nature of reality,
1247
01:24:16.279 --> 01:24:20.039
the more we understand that everything has a level of consciousness.
1248
01:24:20.800 --> 01:24:23.840
Maybe you could give us some examples of that. I mean,
1249
01:24:23.960 --> 01:24:26.960
it's pretty obvious with the animal kingdom with humans that
1250
01:24:27.039 --> 01:24:31.520
there's consciousness there, But even with plants and minerals.
1251
01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:35.319
Is that right? Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely, so, you know,
1252
01:24:35.760 --> 01:24:39.039
for instance, you know, like you, like you mentioned with
1253
01:24:39.159 --> 01:24:42.560
plants and animals, we can really tell that there is
1254
01:24:43.279 --> 01:24:47.319
sentience there. And we would refer to that form of
1255
01:24:47.479 --> 01:24:51.199
consciousness as the sulfur of the material, the soul of
1256
01:24:51.319 --> 01:24:56.520
the material, and that soul really has two different grades
1257
01:24:57.039 --> 01:24:59.479
or two different forms. There's one that's called the volatile
1258
01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:03.119
sulfur or volatile soul, and in modern metaphysics this would
1259
01:25:03.159 --> 01:25:05.600
kind of be referred to as the higher self. It
1260
01:25:05.760 --> 01:25:09.039
is the aspect of us that perhaps exists in the
1261
01:25:09.119 --> 01:25:12.680
subconscious and unconscious components that just gives us our talents
1262
01:25:12.760 --> 01:25:16.079
and our interests, Like why are you interested in the
1263
01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:19.880
occult and in metaphysics and things like You may not
1264
01:25:20.079 --> 01:25:22.600
necessarily have a conscious answer for that, it's just an
1265
01:25:22.680 --> 01:25:26.479
inherent talent. It's an inherent interest that you have. And
1266
01:25:26.840 --> 01:25:29.239
these are the things that are constantly guiding us, and
1267
01:25:29.359 --> 01:25:32.520
they are oftentimes tied into the causal plane as the
1268
01:25:32.680 --> 01:25:36.239
purpose of our existence. And we all have this higher
1269
01:25:36.399 --> 01:25:39.279
aspect of us that if we're able to align our
1270
01:25:39.359 --> 01:25:43.720
bodies and our lower sulfur, our fixed sulfur is what
1271
01:25:43.840 --> 01:25:47.359
we call that together and animate all of these things
1272
01:25:47.399 --> 01:25:50.399
with our spiritual energy, our disciplines, our actions on the
1273
01:25:50.479 --> 01:25:53.199
day to day, then we will be able to have
1274
01:25:53.479 --> 01:25:56.680
that effect that we were designed to be able to
1275
01:25:56.800 --> 01:26:01.159
have throughout the course of our lifetime. The fixed sulfur
1276
01:26:01.479 --> 01:26:04.239
is more of like the color of our skin, the
1277
01:26:04.359 --> 01:26:06.359
tone of our voice, the color of our hair and
1278
01:26:06.439 --> 01:26:09.479
our eyes, the way that we dress, the way that
1279
01:26:09.560 --> 01:26:12.520
we come across, the types of words that we use
1280
01:26:12.640 --> 01:26:16.800
to express ourselves. See these that are not necessarily physical things,
1281
01:26:17.399 --> 01:26:21.000
but they can be physical things. They're tied into our physicality,
1282
01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:25.359
but they shape how people perceive us, how we perceive ourself,
1283
01:26:25.479 --> 01:26:28.199
and how we express ourself. And for the most part,
1284
01:26:28.319 --> 01:26:32.439
these things are largely conscious. And so we have these
1285
01:26:32.520 --> 01:26:36.319
two different aspects of our soul that are constantly dynamically
1286
01:26:36.520 --> 01:26:40.640
at play, and our emotions. The way that we express
1287
01:26:40.680 --> 01:26:42.520
our emotions and things like that. All of that is
1288
01:26:42.600 --> 01:26:46.479
kind of part of the soul resonance of a species.
1289
01:26:47.439 --> 01:26:50.760
When we take a look at vegetable materials, we see
1290
01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:53.039
that same thing, but just in a way that is
1291
01:26:53.239 --> 01:26:57.600
not as relatable from the human experience as it is
1292
01:26:57.680 --> 01:27:00.399
when we look at animals. Animals and humans share a
1293
01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:03.159
lot of similarities in those ways. If we're hungry and
1294
01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:05.880
people get in the way between us and our food,
1295
01:27:06.199 --> 01:27:08.279
we might get angry, right, we might get pissed, we
1296
01:27:08.359 --> 01:27:11.560
might attack like that's a very animalistic type of behavior
1297
01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:14.720
that carries over into the human realm. With plants, they
1298
01:27:14.800 --> 01:27:17.640
look at things a whole lot differently, especially with trees.
1299
01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:20.840
They're all about the sharing of resources and the benefit
1300
01:27:21.039 --> 01:27:24.239
of the entirety of the plant kingdom as a whole
1301
01:27:24.680 --> 01:27:27.760
that are living there, and they work so symbiotically with
1302
01:27:28.039 --> 01:27:31.199
fungi and bacteria and archaea and these other different forms
1303
01:27:31.239 --> 01:27:35.520
of microbiological life forms that they're much more universally tied in.
1304
01:27:35.760 --> 01:27:37.960
We could argue that they have a greater deal of
1305
01:27:38.159 --> 01:27:41.119
spirit within them as a result of that. And of course,
1306
01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:45.600
as you know, they're taking our exhalations of carbon dioxide
1307
01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:49.039
and carbon based things, and they're constantly breathing that in
1308
01:27:49.159 --> 01:27:53.039
and transforming it back into oxygen. They're literally spiriting the
1309
01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:57.680
entire earth for us. Trees are, and so with trees especially,
1310
01:27:57.840 --> 01:28:01.760
we can see that they have very particular signatures in
1311
01:28:01.840 --> 01:28:06.479
their fixed sulfur, Like what differentiates an oak tree from
1312
01:28:06.520 --> 01:28:08.840
a hawthorn tree, Like, well, we can look at the bark,
1313
01:28:08.960 --> 01:28:11.159
we can look at the leaves and their shape, we
1314
01:28:11.239 --> 01:28:13.600
can look at how tall they grow, what types of
1315
01:28:13.680 --> 01:28:15.840
fruits that they might bear, so on and so forth,
1316
01:28:15.920 --> 01:28:18.800
and there are clearly differences there. So they too have
1317
01:28:18.880 --> 01:28:22.479
a fixed sulfur, and they also have a volatile sulfur,
1318
01:28:22.520 --> 01:28:25.159
which is to say, like a purpose for their existence,
1319
01:28:25.199 --> 01:28:28.640
and their purpose is totally different too. An oak tree
1320
01:28:29.039 --> 01:28:32.159
is meant to be the pinnacle of the expression of
1321
01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:39.079
healthy forests. Old and advanced forested lands will eventually be oaks.
1322
01:28:39.279 --> 01:28:42.560
Primarily they'll be oak, they'll be maple, they'll be hard woods.
1323
01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:46.520
Younger forests are going to have much softer wood trees
1324
01:28:46.680 --> 01:28:48.399
that are not so much at the pinnacle, but they're
1325
01:28:48.399 --> 01:28:51.920
still very important. But they're like evergreen trees like pines
1326
01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:55.119
and cedars and junipers and things like that. And so
1327
01:28:55.479 --> 01:28:57.760
you can see that there is an evolution of the
1328
01:28:58.039 --> 01:29:03.239
entire ecology from a forestry type of perspective, and as
1329
01:29:03.479 --> 01:29:06.520
that whole land mass, that whole forested area kind of
1330
01:29:06.560 --> 01:29:10.000
goes through its evolutions, eventually its crowning aspect will be
1331
01:29:10.079 --> 01:29:13.840
the oaks. And oaks are amazing because they actually attract
1332
01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:18.000
lightning to them, and they utilize that lightning that strikes them,
1333
01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:21.600
they don't get too terribly damaged. They're able to put
1334
01:29:21.680 --> 01:29:24.800
all of that electricity into the ground in order to
1335
01:29:24.840 --> 01:29:28.399
be able to animate the ground and to provide nitrogen
1336
01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:32.279
and healthy effects. And then from there they utilize our
1337
01:29:32.319 --> 01:29:34.520
friends the fungi to be able to spread that through
1338
01:29:34.800 --> 01:29:38.800
entire forested networks and areas of ecology that are surrounding
1339
01:29:38.840 --> 01:29:43.039
as well. So you know the plants that definitely have this.
1340
01:29:43.159 --> 01:29:45.319
And when we take a look at like the difference
1341
01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:48.279
between say even members of the same family like lemon
1342
01:29:48.399 --> 01:29:53.239
balm and say spearmint, they taste different, they might look different,
1343
01:29:53.359 --> 01:29:57.439
they have some certain characteristic similarities, but they have entirely
1344
01:29:57.560 --> 01:30:02.279
different healing properties to them as well. And so their personalities,
1345
01:30:02.359 --> 01:30:06.640
their talents, their interests are different, and their interests are
1346
01:30:06.680 --> 01:30:09.039
different based on the areas that they grow in, what
1347
01:30:09.199 --> 01:30:11.800
they want to grow in, and what the prime conditions
1348
01:30:11.800 --> 01:30:15.239
for their growth are, and their interests. Their talents are
1349
01:30:15.680 --> 01:30:18.359
also different in like the way that they smell, and
1350
01:30:18.560 --> 01:30:21.079
how they interact. You know, part of the reason there's
1351
01:30:21.079 --> 01:30:24.439
all this research these days, Chris about you know, if
1352
01:30:24.479 --> 01:30:26.680
you go out into the forest, you're less likely to
1353
01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:29.520
be depressed because the forest has all of these chemicals
1354
01:30:29.560 --> 01:30:31.560
that are working on you. Well, part of that actually
1355
01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:36.039
is the volatile aromatic compounds, you know, essential oils or
1356
01:30:36.119 --> 01:30:38.439
terpenes however you want to call that, and other VOCs
1357
01:30:38.920 --> 01:30:44.800
that are vacs that are evaporating constantly from the plants
1358
01:30:44.960 --> 01:30:50.079
just by ambiental heat and humidity, and they are entering
1359
01:30:50.239 --> 01:30:54.319
into the atmosphere. Now we are smelling those and identifying
1360
01:30:54.439 --> 01:30:58.199
them chemically, but they are to the plants, those are
1361
01:30:58.239 --> 01:31:01.239
their hormones and their pheromone, and they are using those
1362
01:31:01.359 --> 01:31:05.600
to connect with other plants and other things in that network.
1363
01:31:05.920 --> 01:31:09.039
And when we interface with those things, they actually we
1364
01:31:09.199 --> 01:31:11.479
breathe them in, they get into our bloodstream, and then
1365
01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:16.079
they actually change us. They change our entire psychological and
1366
01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:20.920
physiological composition. Essential oils, there's a lot of research showing
1367
01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:23.920
how they impact the limbic brain, which ties us into
1368
01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:27.000
our memories and our traumas and lots of other things
1369
01:31:27.119 --> 01:31:31.680
like that. So the plants definitely have their own expressions,
1370
01:31:31.760 --> 01:31:35.039
and so do minerals. Minerals are even more dense than
1371
01:31:35.199 --> 01:31:38.479
plants are. But they also have their own spirits and
1372
01:31:38.600 --> 01:31:42.640
they have their own purposes, like, for instance, gold has
1373
01:31:42.840 --> 01:31:46.319
an untarnishable capacity to it, like you can soak it
1374
01:31:46.399 --> 01:31:48.119
in water for as long as you want, you can
1375
01:31:48.159 --> 01:31:51.399
put it into most solvents. Even there's only a few
1376
01:31:51.439 --> 01:31:53.680
solvents that will actually dissolve gold, one of those being
1377
01:31:53.800 --> 01:31:58.199
metallic mercury, another one being called aqua regia. There's not
1378
01:31:58.319 --> 01:32:02.239
many others. There is also like antimony, pentachloride, and a
1379
01:32:02.319 --> 01:32:04.760
couple of others that are created that can dissolve gold,
1380
01:32:05.119 --> 01:32:07.840
but there's not that many of them. And then you
1381
01:32:07.920 --> 01:32:10.439
know silver, on the other hand, which is also a
1382
01:32:10.520 --> 01:32:12.960
beautiful and noble metal, when we stick that out in
1383
01:32:13.079 --> 01:32:15.600
the rain or expose it to oxygen, it starts to
1384
01:32:15.680 --> 01:32:20.760
tarnish and it changes. So they also have particular talents
1385
01:32:20.920 --> 01:32:24.239
where they can be used and places where maybe they're
1386
01:32:24.319 --> 01:32:27.520
not so great to be used. And they also have
1387
01:32:27.760 --> 01:32:31.680
specific interests like where they grow and under what geological
1388
01:32:31.760 --> 01:32:35.640
conditions they're going to grow, and whether they're going to
1389
01:32:35.720 --> 01:32:39.319
make veins of something or whether they're going to crystallize
1390
01:32:39.359 --> 01:32:43.680
with another type of formation, Like you'll oftentimes find lead
1391
01:32:43.920 --> 01:32:47.239
and quartz and gold all in the same types of
1392
01:32:47.319 --> 01:32:50.960
areas because they like the same types of conditions. And
1393
01:32:51.319 --> 01:32:54.039
you know that lead is very heavy and it can
1394
01:32:54.239 --> 01:32:57.000
just be melted with a basic lighter or a candle heat.
1395
01:32:57.840 --> 01:32:59.479
You don't need a whole lot to be able to
1396
01:32:59.560 --> 01:33:04.359
refine let, whereas gold definitely requires a lot more skill
1397
01:33:04.680 --> 01:33:10.359
and higher temperature capacity and better smelting technologies than say
1398
01:33:10.439 --> 01:33:14.359
lead or mercury or tin might. So they definitely have
1399
01:33:14.439 --> 01:33:16.479
their own talents and their own interests. We just have
1400
01:33:16.640 --> 01:33:20.199
to be able to see and perceive that from the
1401
01:33:20.279 --> 01:33:23.920
perspective of the material itself as we can observe it
1402
01:33:24.199 --> 01:33:25.479
from our state of humanity.
1403
01:33:26.199 --> 01:33:30.079
Right on, I think there's a great segue into alchemiculture
1404
01:33:30.399 --> 01:33:32.399
and what this is tell us all about this.
1405
01:33:33.560 --> 01:33:40.199
Yeah, so alchemic culture is basically taking the universal concepts
1406
01:33:40.720 --> 01:33:44.520
of alchemy and being able to apply it to human civilization,
1407
01:33:44.840 --> 01:33:49.560
human culture, and creating a culture of alchemists. So alchemic
1408
01:33:49.600 --> 01:33:54.760
culture and the idea was really for me. It started
1409
01:33:54.800 --> 01:33:59.399
off agriculturally, because when we take a look at say
1410
01:33:59.439 --> 01:34:03.399
permaculture principles, we can see that permaculture isn't just an
1411
01:34:03.479 --> 01:34:07.520
agricultural philosophy. It's something that is more of a philosophy
1412
01:34:07.600 --> 01:34:11.279
that can be applied to a wide scope of human
1413
01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:14.720
interactions where we're creating closed loop systems. If I had
1414
01:34:14.760 --> 01:34:18.199
to like really summarize what permaculture is, it would be
1415
01:34:18.319 --> 01:34:23.000
like creating closed loop systems so that cause and effect
1416
01:34:23.159 --> 01:34:27.399
or supply and demand are all innertied into the production
1417
01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:31.760
of what we're doing from just about any angle, whether
1418
01:34:31.880 --> 01:34:35.399
that's you know, I need this type of material for
1419
01:34:35.560 --> 01:34:40.000
my garden, say some sort of fertilizer. Well, where do
1420
01:34:40.039 --> 01:34:42.399
you get that fertilizer. Well, if it can grow in plants,
1421
01:34:42.439 --> 01:34:45.479
and plants can bioaccumulate the material that you need, then
1422
01:34:45.560 --> 01:34:48.640
you can grow that on your own land. And now
1423
01:34:49.039 --> 01:34:52.399
that material that you have can be grown as part
1424
01:34:52.439 --> 01:34:54.880
of the solution to what you actually need. And so
1425
01:34:55.039 --> 01:34:59.399
you're closing the loop. You're stopping the necessity to import
1426
01:34:59.439 --> 01:35:03.600
another materi from another location. And long before permaculture was
1427
01:35:03.680 --> 01:35:06.800
ever a phrase or a thing, Rudolph Steiner, in his
1428
01:35:06.920 --> 01:35:11.520
Agricultural Lessons, wrote a lot about this, and that has
1429
01:35:11.640 --> 01:35:14.159
kind of come to be known as biodynamics and so
1430
01:35:14.680 --> 01:35:18.960
my interest in agriculture started with biodynamics, and then eventually,
1431
01:35:19.119 --> 01:35:21.800
you know, I became savvy into permaculture, and so all
1432
01:35:21.840 --> 01:35:24.880
of these things were truths that I was seeing play
1433
01:35:24.960 --> 01:35:28.720
out inside of my agricultural space. And that's kind of
1434
01:35:28.800 --> 01:35:31.560
where the concept was is, Oh, what if I utilize
1435
01:35:32.039 --> 01:35:37.359
alchemy to be able to exalt the types of fertilizers
1436
01:35:37.399 --> 01:35:39.439
that I'm making that I'm growing on my own land,
1437
01:35:39.600 --> 01:35:43.319
Or what if I utilize alchemical principles to actually grow
1438
01:35:44.560 --> 01:35:46.239
my garden and to take care of it, like at
1439
01:35:46.239 --> 01:35:48.960
the end of every season, instead of just allowing everything
1440
01:35:49.039 --> 01:35:51.880
to decompose, what if I selectively take the things like
1441
01:35:52.399 --> 01:35:55.479
the great branches, for instance, that are much more woody
1442
01:35:55.560 --> 01:35:59.159
and take a long time to decompose, or you know,
1443
01:35:59.279 --> 01:36:01.239
some of the trees that I have to compass, like
1444
01:36:01.359 --> 01:36:04.800
a Chinese elm for instance, which is considered an invasive thing.
1445
01:36:05.159 --> 01:36:07.199
Those have a ton of cellulose and a ton of
1446
01:36:07.279 --> 01:36:11.359
fiber and things that don't decompose so terribly easily inside
1447
01:36:11.399 --> 01:36:14.439
of the soil. So what if I take those and
1448
01:36:14.560 --> 01:36:18.359
instead of applying the process of fermentation and allowing them
1449
01:36:18.520 --> 01:36:22.159
to break down by anaerobic microbes inside of the soil.
1450
01:36:22.239 --> 01:36:24.479
What if I take those in a calcine those instead
1451
01:36:24.960 --> 01:36:29.319
and get their ash and distribute a liquid. Take that
1452
01:36:29.439 --> 01:36:33.239
ash and utilize the alchemical process, like be able to
1453
01:36:33.359 --> 01:36:36.119
dissolve that ash inside of water and to purify that
1454
01:36:36.239 --> 01:36:39.720
ash and get the potassium minerals that are locked up
1455
01:36:39.800 --> 01:36:43.920
inside of there as pure form and homeopathically disperse that
1456
01:36:44.119 --> 01:36:48.600
over the entire garden area. What happens to the overall
1457
01:36:48.640 --> 01:36:50.720
ecology as I do that? And what I started to
1458
01:36:50.840 --> 01:36:54.800
notice a season after season was that my ecological conditions
1459
01:36:55.039 --> 01:36:58.359
in that garden space were changing. What I was capable
1460
01:36:58.399 --> 01:37:03.680
of growing started to and this would create little microclimates
1461
01:37:04.239 --> 01:37:07.920
within the garden itself, like micro micro climates where suddenly
1462
01:37:08.039 --> 01:37:10.680
I was able to, in the hot deserts of Utah,
1463
01:37:11.399 --> 01:37:14.159
be able to grow watermelons in certain areas of my
1464
01:37:15.039 --> 01:37:20.600
garden effortlessly because the conditions for that particular growth and
1465
01:37:20.680 --> 01:37:24.960
expression of plant consciousness was ideally prime. I had transformed
1466
01:37:24.960 --> 01:37:28.279
the soil from wanting to grow natural sagebrush and say,
1467
01:37:28.359 --> 01:37:30.880
desert yarrow and you know all these other things, to
1468
01:37:31.640 --> 01:37:35.680
now being able to grow plants that would thrive in places,
1469
01:37:35.760 --> 01:37:40.600
say like Georgia or Louisiana or Florida, Right, So it
1470
01:37:40.760 --> 01:37:43.760
was just an evolution. That's kind of where the inspiration
1471
01:37:43.920 --> 01:37:47.319
came from. And as I continued to apply that to
1472
01:37:47.439 --> 01:37:50.039
other systems, I was taking a look at our sociology
1473
01:37:50.359 --> 01:37:54.439
and I remember that, you know, there were a ton
1474
01:37:54.560 --> 01:37:58.720
of revolts in Egypt back roughly two thousand and eight,
1475
01:37:58.760 --> 01:38:01.560
two thousand and nine type of timeframe, and they were
1476
01:38:01.600 --> 01:38:03.960
starting things on fire, and there was all this revolt
1477
01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:06.760
and I was like, ah, Anger, like this, this relates
1478
01:38:06.840 --> 01:38:10.119
to the process of calcination. It's like being angry about
1479
01:38:10.159 --> 01:38:12.560
something to the point where you're so fed up that
1480
01:38:12.840 --> 01:38:16.279
you have no other way to deal with the material
1481
01:38:16.399 --> 01:38:21.640
besides instilling or creating a crisis. And when you create crisis,
1482
01:38:21.880 --> 01:38:25.239
crisis ultimately leads the material to some sort of change.
1483
01:38:25.399 --> 01:38:27.640
And if you know how to guide it properly without
1484
01:38:27.720 --> 01:38:31.279
chemical principles, you can guide it to an exalted form
1485
01:38:31.520 --> 01:38:35.880
of whatever you know x material was that caused the
1486
01:38:35.920 --> 01:38:39.640
crisis in the first place, or you can transform it
1487
01:38:39.920 --> 01:38:42.640
entirely by having it now operate on a whole new
1488
01:38:42.760 --> 01:38:46.800
octave and leaving the technology, the ideas, the philosophies, whatever
1489
01:38:46.880 --> 01:38:48.920
it was that instilled that crisis in the first place,
1490
01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:53.680
behind and operating on a whole new framework of mental
1491
01:38:53.800 --> 01:38:57.760
capacity and of philosophy around something. And so I started
1492
01:38:57.800 --> 01:38:59.960
taking a look at this and applying it to philosophy
1493
01:39:00.920 --> 01:39:04.800
and to human civilization, realizing like, wow, this is a really,
1494
01:39:04.920 --> 01:39:07.880
really potent concept. And over time I kind of started
1495
01:39:07.960 --> 01:39:13.159
creating principles of the major seven areas of humanity that
1496
01:39:13.600 --> 01:39:17.920
we can transform if we apply all chemical principles to
1497
01:39:18.039 --> 01:39:21.359
it and consciously instill a crisis, not the way that
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01:39:22.880 --> 01:39:26.520
you know, like create the crisis and manufacture the solution.
1499
01:39:26.720 --> 01:39:28.760
That's not what I'm talking about that is used for
1500
01:39:30.039 --> 01:39:36.399
deliberate control of rather uninformed mask but instead on a
1501
01:39:36.560 --> 01:39:41.159
personal level, and that resonates up to the sociological you know,
1502
01:39:41.239 --> 01:39:44.279
It's like, on your personal level you change things. Other
1503
01:39:44.319 --> 01:39:47.680
people are naturally going to observe what you have been
1504
01:39:47.720 --> 01:39:49.840
able to change, what you've done for yourself. They're gonna
1505
01:39:49.840 --> 01:39:52.039
want a piece of that. They'll ultimately ask you, like,
1506
01:39:52.079 --> 01:39:54.319
what are you doing that helped you do that? You
1507
01:39:54.439 --> 01:39:57.319
become an inspiration not because you're seeking to be one,
1508
01:39:57.439 --> 01:40:01.199
just because what you did itself speaks for itself, and
1509
01:40:01.840 --> 01:40:05.760
that inspires your neighborhood or your family or whatever else
1510
01:40:05.880 --> 01:40:08.640
to want to do a similar thing. And so this
1511
01:40:08.840 --> 01:40:12.439
transformational effect is almost kind of contagious. And if we
1512
01:40:12.600 --> 01:40:15.760
start on personal level and fix these aspects of ourselves,
1513
01:40:15.880 --> 01:40:18.640
namely our traumas that are holding us back and keeping
1514
01:40:18.720 --> 01:40:21.439
us in lower you know, I hate to sound too
1515
01:40:22.319 --> 01:40:26.520
metaphysically cliche these days, but holding us into lower vibrational
1516
01:40:26.560 --> 01:40:32.079
states of consciousness, then it creates this cascade effect to
1517
01:40:32.359 --> 01:40:36.039
our external surroundings. And once our personal lot, our personal
1518
01:40:36.119 --> 01:40:40.159
traumas are kind of dealt with, then we all have
1519
01:40:40.319 --> 01:40:43.279
a whole lot more energy and effort to think about
1520
01:40:43.560 --> 01:40:46.840
the next step of our humanity, which is is my
1521
01:40:46.960 --> 01:40:49.800
community well taken care of? And what is my role
1522
01:40:49.880 --> 01:40:52.479
inside of my community? You know, we're not just struggling
1523
01:40:52.600 --> 01:40:55.159
to get by day by day. We have the energy
1524
01:40:55.239 --> 01:40:59.039
to think about larger and more complex things. And once
1525
01:40:59.079 --> 01:41:01.399
we handle that, then it's like, oh, my community is
1526
01:41:01.560 --> 01:41:04.039
really well taken care of. How do I think about
1527
01:41:04.199 --> 01:41:07.000
my district level, how do I think about my you know,
1528
01:41:07.199 --> 01:41:09.399
state level, how do I think about my country level,
1529
01:41:09.479 --> 01:41:14.199
my continent level, my you know, hemispheric level, my global level, whatever.
1530
01:41:14.840 --> 01:41:19.079
And so we're able to constantly move forward. But it
1531
01:41:19.119 --> 01:41:21.920
all starts with that kind of personal change. And so
1532
01:41:22.279 --> 01:41:26.159
the aspects of our thinking and our rationale and our
1533
01:41:26.279 --> 01:41:31.760
traumas that prevent those larger pictures from being even thought
1534
01:41:31.800 --> 01:41:36.439
about or philosophized about or worked with in any real
1535
01:41:36.520 --> 01:41:39.960
and tangible way, they start on that personal level. And
1536
01:41:40.119 --> 01:41:43.880
if we can utilize alchemy to be able to transform
1537
01:41:44.159 --> 01:41:47.600
or at least exalt our potential, then we have an
1538
01:41:47.640 --> 01:41:50.840
amazing opportunity in front of us. And so that's kind
1539
01:41:50.840 --> 01:41:56.000
of my contribution to how I would like to influence
1540
01:41:56.079 --> 01:41:58.039
the world or change the world, or you know, my
1541
01:41:58.560 --> 01:42:00.399
own solution to it. I suppose.
1542
01:42:01.000 --> 01:42:03.800
Well, I would love to hear those seven methods that
1543
01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:06.399
you were briefly discussing a minute ago.
1544
01:42:08.279 --> 01:42:12.600
Yeah, so I don't have them all right off the
1545
01:42:12.680 --> 01:42:14.760
top of my head. Let me just try and pull
1546
01:42:14.840 --> 01:42:21.520
up my website and see what all we have here. Okay,
1547
01:42:21.760 --> 01:42:24.800
here they are. So the seven core aspects of humanity
1548
01:42:25.399 --> 01:42:29.079
that I've drafted out. The first one and possibly the
1549
01:42:29.119 --> 01:42:32.840
most important one because it connects us into our spiritual selves.
1550
01:42:32.880 --> 01:42:36.399
Again at the top of our multi dimensional kind of
1551
01:42:36.600 --> 01:42:40.800
chain of command is human cosmology and philosophy. How do
1552
01:42:40.920 --> 01:42:44.920
we view and how do we philosophize about the world
1553
01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:47.600
around us and what our role in it is. And
1554
01:42:47.920 --> 01:42:51.600
you know, so many people for ages now, especially since
1555
01:42:51.600 --> 01:42:56.199
the advent of the Enlightenment period of European history, we're
1556
01:42:56.279 --> 01:42:59.159
always asking like, well, what is the purpose of humanity?
1557
01:43:00.880 --> 01:43:04.720
That's something that we can't really answer because that's an
1558
01:43:04.760 --> 01:43:08.479
individual thing. What is the purpose of each individual's life?
1559
01:43:09.720 --> 01:43:13.880
That again cannot effectively be answered. That has to be
1560
01:43:14.039 --> 01:43:17.239
subjectively answered by the individual, And so the individual has
1561
01:43:17.319 --> 01:43:22.640
to be able to identify what their life is, what
1562
01:43:23.039 --> 01:43:26.760
the purpose of their life really is, and that is
1563
01:43:27.199 --> 01:43:31.680
I think the most core aspect of change in thinking
1564
01:43:31.840 --> 01:43:34.720
that we could possibly wrap our minds around. And if
1565
01:43:34.800 --> 01:43:39.359
we are subscribing to self limiting beliefs, and oftentimes you know,
1566
01:43:39.520 --> 01:43:43.319
dare I say, religious beliefs that have been manufactured for us,
1567
01:43:44.159 --> 01:43:48.479
then we are limiting ourselves massively because a thought is
1568
01:43:48.680 --> 01:43:51.520
very very malleable. We can take thoughts and ideas and
1569
01:43:51.560 --> 01:43:56.039
they're malleable and they're subject to change with experience, right,
1570
01:43:56.199 --> 01:44:00.920
so you know, we're not locking something in. But if
1571
01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:02.920
I take a look at a table and I say, well,
1572
01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:06.239
that table is a turtle, and I believe that it's
1573
01:44:06.279 --> 01:44:08.960
a turtle because there's four legs to it and it
1574
01:44:09.039 --> 01:44:11.640
has a hard back, and turtles have four legs and
1575
01:44:11.760 --> 01:44:14.960
they have a hard back. I can force myself, based
1576
01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:18.520
on limited evidence and experience, to believe that that table
1577
01:44:18.760 --> 01:44:22.439
is a turtle. But if I just have an idea
1578
01:44:23.039 --> 01:44:26.159
about it, then I can keep exploring and I can
1579
01:44:26.279 --> 01:44:30.439
keep examining because there's no sense of emotional certainty about
1580
01:44:30.560 --> 01:44:32.840
what I know nothing about, which is really what a
1581
01:44:32.880 --> 01:44:36.079
belief is a sense of emotional certainty around something we
1582
01:44:36.279 --> 01:44:40.279
know very little about. So people might believe there is
1583
01:44:40.720 --> 01:44:43.760
a higher power, they might believe that there is an afterlife,
1584
01:44:43.840 --> 01:44:47.079
they might believe all these things. Now, whether that's true
1585
01:44:47.119 --> 01:44:49.600
or not is not the point. The concept is, if
1586
01:44:49.680 --> 01:44:52.600
you tie yourself into a belief, you're only allowed to
1587
01:44:52.720 --> 01:44:56.760
go so far with that belief before it shatters your
1588
01:44:56.880 --> 01:44:59.920
consciousness at a certain point, you know a certain point,
1589
01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:03.479
and if you break through your own beliefs, you're going
1590
01:45:03.560 --> 01:45:06.640
to have some sort of psychological split because you have
1591
01:45:06.880 --> 01:45:10.399
placed so much emotional certainty into that thing that you
1592
01:45:10.520 --> 01:45:14.319
knew very little about that once you have a different experience,
1593
01:45:14.560 --> 01:45:17.560
it has to like all of your emotions get questioned
1594
01:45:17.680 --> 01:45:22.560
and it can create some psychosis. Actually, but with thoughts
1595
01:45:22.600 --> 01:45:25.119
and ideas, we don't have that. The mental plane is
1596
01:45:25.279 --> 01:45:28.039
very very flexible that way that we can go up
1597
01:45:28.119 --> 01:45:30.079
to that thing that we thought was a turtle and
1598
01:45:30.159 --> 01:45:32.520
we can say, well, you know what, this doesn't actually
1599
01:45:32.640 --> 01:45:36.359
eat and it's not moving even slowly, so this is
1600
01:45:36.479 --> 01:45:39.479
probably not a turtle. And oh, actually it's made out
1601
01:45:39.479 --> 01:45:41.279
of wood or it's made out of metal, and you know,
1602
01:45:41.479 --> 01:45:43.359
all these other turtles are not made out of that.
1603
01:45:44.119 --> 01:45:47.680
And so we can have experiences that are constantly changing
1604
01:45:47.800 --> 01:45:53.119
and shaping our ideas and our thoughts around something without
1605
01:45:53.199 --> 01:45:56.119
having to place any emotional sense of certainty around it.
1606
01:45:56.560 --> 01:45:59.600
And so I've often been quoted as saying that beliefs
1607
01:45:59.640 --> 01:46:04.680
are really only good for the insane, because we can
1608
01:46:04.760 --> 01:46:06.600
have a lot of ideas about things and we don't
1609
01:46:06.680 --> 01:46:11.560
need to know that something is that particular way, especially
1610
01:46:11.600 --> 01:46:14.840
on limited series of data. The more data that we collect,
1611
01:46:15.119 --> 01:46:18.640
the better understanding about something that we will have. And
1612
01:46:19.279 --> 01:46:22.079
we have to remember that it's all about perspective, right.
1613
01:46:22.159 --> 01:46:25.520
We can only see things from our own perspective, from
1614
01:46:25.560 --> 01:46:29.319
our own limited sense of self experience, and so as
1615
01:46:29.399 --> 01:46:32.840
we listen to others about their data points, then we
1616
01:46:32.960 --> 01:46:37.319
can gain a more comprehensive view about something. And when
1617
01:46:37.399 --> 01:46:42.479
we take this into the human sociological context of our
1618
01:46:43.319 --> 01:46:47.399
philosophies and cosmologies, there have been so many beautiful philosophies
1619
01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:51.399
and so many beautiful cosmologies that have existed and continue
1620
01:46:51.439 --> 01:46:53.520
to exist in some that are being created in this
1621
01:46:53.680 --> 01:46:55.840
very moment, that if we look at all of these
1622
01:46:55.920 --> 01:46:59.079
and try and find the lowest common denominators between them,
1623
01:46:59.520 --> 01:47:02.479
then we can and say it stands to reason, based
1624
01:47:02.520 --> 01:47:05.760
on our experience at present, that these are the things
1625
01:47:05.920 --> 01:47:09.199
that are the most perennial to the human experience. Let
1626
01:47:09.279 --> 01:47:12.600
us focus on these things. We might have beliefs still,
1627
01:47:12.720 --> 01:47:16.399
if we want them, that's fine, but let us put
1628
01:47:16.479 --> 01:47:19.960
those in the background and focus on these core things
1629
01:47:20.079 --> 01:47:23.439
that are the most universal, the most perennial to our
1630
01:47:23.520 --> 01:47:27.560
human experience. And so that's where the application of alchemy
1631
01:47:28.079 --> 01:47:31.560
needs to be applied on a personal level to first
1632
01:47:31.760 --> 01:47:34.479
get through our beliefs. And the beliefs that are the
1633
01:47:34.520 --> 01:47:38.760
most hazardous are the self limiting beliefs, right, and those
1634
01:47:38.920 --> 01:47:42.640
form our cosmology and our philosophy as individuals massively. And
1635
01:47:42.720 --> 01:47:44.840
so if we can transform those. Then that gives us
1636
01:47:44.840 --> 01:47:46.760
an idea to look at. The next step is like,
1637
01:47:47.319 --> 01:47:51.800
what does my surrounding community mostly look at or believe
1638
01:47:51.920 --> 01:47:54.079
or whatever. And again, we can roast those and break
1639
01:47:54.119 --> 01:47:56.840
those down and transform all of those types of things,
1640
01:47:57.079 --> 01:47:59.600
and it just keeps going up. So that's the first one.
1641
01:48:00.479 --> 01:48:04.720
The next one that impacts us all is law and justice, right,
1642
01:48:05.159 --> 01:48:10.439
like what is law? There's all these courses that are
1643
01:48:10.479 --> 01:48:13.800
coming out that It's like, there's natural law, and natural
1644
01:48:13.920 --> 01:48:16.840
law does this, and they're basing it on a lot
1645
01:48:16.920 --> 01:48:19.920
of this is like tying back to hermetics, but not
1646
01:48:20.720 --> 01:48:24.279
sound hermetics. They're basing it on the Kabalion of all
1647
01:48:24.399 --> 01:48:27.920
things that could possibly be considered hermetic God. I hate
1648
01:48:27.960 --> 01:48:32.640
the Kabalion for this because it posted itself in the
1649
01:48:32.960 --> 01:48:36.680
in the nineteenth century and early twentieth century ocult revival.
1650
01:48:36.720 --> 01:48:40.840
It posted itself is like laws, you know, hermetic laws.
1651
01:48:40.920 --> 01:48:44.079
There's no such thing as hermetic laws like that, like
1652
01:48:44.279 --> 01:48:47.800
the law of gender is not an actual law. There
1653
01:48:47.800 --> 01:48:50.399
are lots of things that do not have gender. There
1654
01:48:50.439 --> 01:48:54.399
are lots of things in existence that aren't just human
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01:48:54.520 --> 01:48:57.479
that don't abide by those laws, So those can't be laws.
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01:48:57.680 --> 01:49:01.920
Laws objectively speaking, or things that are universal and perennial
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01:49:02.039 --> 01:49:07.000
to all forms of creation. And so when we are
1658
01:49:07.079 --> 01:49:10.279
taking a look at human laws, we have to realize
1659
01:49:10.399 --> 01:49:13.520
that if we were only to follow the laws that
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01:49:13.720 --> 01:49:17.199
apply to all of creation, that's not enough for our
1661
01:49:17.279 --> 01:49:21.359
sociological or individual needs, because there needs to be some
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01:49:21.640 --> 01:49:28.680
form of subjective protection for people who are, say, at
1663
01:49:28.880 --> 01:49:32.920
risk of being violated in one way or the other.
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01:49:33.199 --> 01:49:39.039
And violation is part of what happens in nature, right,
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01:49:39.279 --> 01:49:41.600
Like do you think the gazelle just asks to be
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01:49:41.760 --> 01:49:44.279
taken down by the lion? Like, it's not like that.
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01:49:44.800 --> 01:49:48.079
There's a certain thing that says if you're weak, if
1668
01:49:48.119 --> 01:49:54.520
you're young, if you are less physiologically adapt than the predator,
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01:49:54.600 --> 01:49:58.399
then the predator will be able to devour you. That
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01:49:58.680 --> 01:50:00.680
is a lot. But do we demand that everybody in
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01:50:00.760 --> 01:50:03.319
our human society is just so strong that they can't
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01:50:03.399 --> 01:50:06.039
be subject to predators? I mean, that's an ideal, but
1673
01:50:06.920 --> 01:50:10.199
is that realistic? My answer for that is no, it's not.
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01:50:10.399 --> 01:50:13.960
So we do have to be able to subjectively create laws,
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01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:16.479
and that's a whole purpose for the invention of laws
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01:50:16.640 --> 01:50:19.079
at its root. Now, that's not saying all of the
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01:50:19.159 --> 01:50:22.319
adulterations that have happened with law as a result, because
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01:50:22.319 --> 01:50:27.880
those are adulterations of the legal system. But law is
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01:50:28.079 --> 01:50:33.439
very important and justice, justice as a perennial virtue to humanity,
1680
01:50:33.720 --> 01:50:37.359
is very important, and justice needs to be balanced, just
1681
01:50:37.520 --> 01:50:39.840
like it is in Cabalah and the Tree of life.
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01:50:40.159 --> 01:50:45.439
It's balanced between mercy on one hand and severity on
1683
01:50:45.520 --> 01:50:49.880
the other hand. And too much severity without mercy is cruelty,
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01:50:50.399 --> 01:50:54.439
and too much mercy without severity is weakness. And somewhere
1685
01:50:54.479 --> 01:50:57.840
between there exists the sense of justice. And this is
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01:50:57.880 --> 01:51:02.079
where the concept of the punishment fit the crime really
1687
01:51:02.199 --> 01:51:06.359
needs to be taken deeply into consideration. But I think
1688
01:51:06.560 --> 01:51:08.880
you know, there was an idea and I learned this.
1689
01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:11.039
I don't know how our legal system got so far away,
1690
01:51:11.119 --> 01:51:16.039
but I learned that very from very young age, that
1691
01:51:16.479 --> 01:51:22.079
our rights as individuals end when we and our actions,
1692
01:51:22.119 --> 01:51:25.680
our thoughts, our behaviors, et cetera, impose upon the rights
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01:51:26.159 --> 01:51:30.399
of other individuals. And if we could get back to
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01:51:30.520 --> 01:51:33.680
this kind of perennial basis, then we would be able
1695
01:51:33.720 --> 01:51:37.399
to sort out a lot of legal things and law
1696
01:51:37.520 --> 01:51:41.840
based things pretty easily and pretty well inside of our humanity.
1697
01:51:41.880 --> 01:51:43.239
I think yeah.
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01:51:43.399 --> 01:51:47.159
So yeah, anyway, that's that's the second thing.
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01:51:47.800 --> 01:51:51.319
I think this is brilliant, And I'm so glad that
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01:51:51.399 --> 01:51:55.680
you really put time and effort into constructing these thoughts
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01:51:55.840 --> 01:51:59.800
and putting them out there, because you're right, we've absolutely
1702
01:52:00.119 --> 01:52:03.359
last sight of how our society is supposed to work
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01:52:03.399 --> 01:52:05.920
on so many different levels, especially when it comes to
1704
01:52:06.319 --> 01:52:09.680
law and justice, like you were just saying, and those
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01:52:09.800 --> 01:52:13.399
concepts make too much sense, and it'd be it'd be
1706
01:52:13.560 --> 01:52:16.760
ridiculous not to to to take a deeper look into
1707
01:52:16.840 --> 01:52:21.039
some of these things, because it seems like that our
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01:52:21.199 --> 01:52:27.279
ancient ancestors probably had a great grasp on how these
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01:52:27.359 --> 01:52:32.399
things worked and were able to utilize them in harmony
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01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:36.479
with not only the way their societies were, but with
1711
01:52:37.479 --> 01:52:41.920
the way that they interacted with nature and everything around them.
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01:52:42.039 --> 01:52:44.319
So I love what you I love what we're getting into.
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01:52:44.439 --> 01:52:45.960
And let's let's hear the rest of them.
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01:52:46.720 --> 01:52:50.159
Okay, cool, Yeah, And you're right, and I think, especially
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01:52:50.199 --> 01:52:55.039
as it pertains to law and justice, part of what
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01:52:55.560 --> 01:52:59.159
worked for our ancient ancestors was because they didn't have
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01:52:59.399 --> 01:53:03.319
conglomerate empires like we have had since the time of
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01:53:03.399 --> 01:53:07.680
Persia and Rome. And you know, ancient Greece and things
1719
01:53:07.800 --> 01:53:10.640
like that. They weren't trying to rule huge land masses.
1720
01:53:10.760 --> 01:53:12.920
Especially when we take a look at like Native American
1721
01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:16.079
tribes or Native People's, indigenous peoples just about anywhere in
1722
01:53:16.119 --> 01:53:19.399
the world. It's on a tribal level, and so they
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01:53:19.520 --> 01:53:22.960
have their personological things down enough within the context of
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01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:26.000
their society, and their society is small enough that they
1725
01:53:26.039 --> 01:53:28.720
can realize, like everything actually works for us if we
1726
01:53:28.840 --> 01:53:31.800
do this, and if we violate these things, then our
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01:53:31.880 --> 01:53:35.119
society doesn't work. And when we try to impose that
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01:53:35.239 --> 01:53:40.000
upon such a huge land mass and millions billions of people,
1729
01:53:41.039 --> 01:53:44.920
that can't work because we are all so different as individuals.
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01:53:45.039 --> 01:53:47.399
We have to be able to find what the context
1731
01:53:47.560 --> 01:53:52.359
is for our own working and so creating micro government,
1732
01:53:52.760 --> 01:53:57.119
micro sectors of you know, districts however you want to
1733
01:53:57.159 --> 01:54:02.000
call it, of humanity right now and decentralizing is, as
1734
01:54:02.039 --> 01:54:05.560
far as I can tell, the only solution that nature
1735
01:54:05.720 --> 01:54:09.079
and our own humanity in our history gives us to
1736
01:54:10.359 --> 01:54:13.960
being able to find good solutions. We can't create broad
1737
01:54:14.039 --> 01:54:17.600
solutions for everybody because that just doesn't work. Okay, So
1738
01:54:17.680 --> 01:54:22.560
the next point economics and currency. We say, oh, if
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01:54:22.640 --> 01:54:26.039
everybody just traded. That would be great, Like we could
1740
01:54:26.159 --> 01:54:28.399
just barter. But you know, let's say that I'm the
1741
01:54:28.479 --> 01:54:32.439
cobbler and you're the farmer, and you're producing food for
1742
01:54:32.640 --> 01:54:35.079
me all year long, and I'm just producing shoes for
1743
01:54:35.159 --> 01:54:38.000
you two to three times a year. Is that fair?
1744
01:54:39.119 --> 01:54:42.039
It's really hard to say. To me, I would say, well,
1745
01:54:42.119 --> 01:54:44.000
as a farmer, I'm putting in a whole lot more
1746
01:54:44.079 --> 01:54:48.399
work than what you're doing as a cobbler, But I
1747
01:54:48.520 --> 01:54:50.680
need to do this. So the concept of barter and
1748
01:54:50.800 --> 01:54:54.159
trade doesn't always work one hundred percent, but it's a
1749
01:54:54.279 --> 01:55:00.520
big part of a larger and more holistic spectrum of
1750
01:55:00.720 --> 01:55:04.199
economics that can be incorporated. But we can't just rely
1751
01:55:04.359 --> 01:55:06.479
on it. And so you know, when people try and
1752
01:55:06.600 --> 01:55:10.560
oversimplify the economic system or how currencies work, or even
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01:55:10.640 --> 01:55:16.760
why currencies exist, they fall short ninety percent of the
1754
01:55:16.800 --> 01:55:19.880
time in my opinion of what the perennial principles are,
1755
01:55:20.000 --> 01:55:23.479
and the perennial principles are to be able to amass resources,
1756
01:55:23.520 --> 01:55:26.039
to be able to afford the things that you need
1757
01:55:26.479 --> 01:55:30.439
for your survival, your family survival, your community survival, your
1758
01:55:30.640 --> 01:55:35.039
government survival, et cetera. However, big that goes up on
1759
01:55:35.159 --> 01:55:38.800
the evolutionary scale. We need to be able to think
1760
01:55:38.840 --> 01:55:43.079
about the perennial basis of currency because we have based
1761
01:55:43.119 --> 01:55:46.039
it on gold. And you know, people can disagree with
1762
01:55:46.159 --> 01:55:49.279
me on this, and sometimes I disagree with myself on this.
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01:55:49.880 --> 01:55:52.079
I don't have a belief around it, but I find
1764
01:55:52.119 --> 01:55:56.359
it very interesting that, you know, we have these early
1765
01:55:56.479 --> 01:56:02.960
Mesopotamian concepts of on Unaki or these watchers that had eventually,
1766
01:56:03.319 --> 01:56:07.359
you know, kind of enslaved humanity for the purpose of
1767
01:56:07.439 --> 01:56:10.239
mining gold so that they could create an artificial atmosphere
1768
01:56:10.319 --> 01:56:13.600
for their own planet. Now, whether that has any substantial
1769
01:56:13.680 --> 01:56:16.199
basis in truth or not is not my point. It's
1770
01:56:16.319 --> 01:56:20.560
that that story and that mythos is very important and
1771
01:56:20.640 --> 01:56:23.439
it still lives very deeply inside of the subconscious of
1772
01:56:23.520 --> 01:56:26.720
humans today. Like we talk about most of the economists
1773
01:56:26.760 --> 01:56:29.880
that I know, alternative economists are like, well, let's back
1774
01:56:29.960 --> 01:56:32.479
things up with gold. Now I know what to do
1775
01:56:32.600 --> 01:56:35.960
with gold. Gold and gold making is good for making
1776
01:56:36.079 --> 01:56:38.720
medicine that is able to heal the soul and get
1777
01:56:38.840 --> 01:56:43.560
rid of our sense of corruptibility within the human paradigm.
1778
01:56:44.000 --> 01:56:46.279
We can also get rid of many different cancers with
1779
01:56:46.880 --> 01:56:50.840
say a rum botobile, which is the potable gold or
1780
01:56:50.920 --> 01:56:54.920
drinkable gold. We can also make several different forms of
1781
01:56:54.960 --> 01:56:58.279
medicine that can work on soul, spirit and body with gold.
1782
01:56:58.560 --> 01:57:00.319
Aside from that, people don't know what to do with
1783
01:57:00.439 --> 01:57:04.199
gold besides, you know, make jewelry or you know, something else.
1784
01:57:04.279 --> 01:57:08.560
And that ornament is really just a sign of status
1785
01:57:08.720 --> 01:57:12.960
within society and it's meaningless. It is so meaningless. So
1786
01:57:13.720 --> 01:57:16.199
why would we back something up with gold? Something that
1787
01:57:16.359 --> 01:57:18.840
is heavy, something that takes up a lot of space
1788
01:57:18.960 --> 01:57:22.760
to store, something that is relatively difficult to smelt and refine.
1789
01:57:24.079 --> 01:57:26.800
These concepts just don't make sense. But there's somewhere deep
1790
01:57:26.960 --> 01:57:30.880
inside of our subconscious as individuals, I would advocate that
1791
01:57:30.960 --> 01:57:34.119
we need to start taking a look at our resources.
1792
01:57:34.760 --> 01:57:39.119
Gold may be one of those resources for ornamental purposes,
1793
01:57:39.279 --> 01:57:43.039
or for religious purposes, or you know, metaphorical purposes or whatever,
1794
01:57:43.520 --> 01:57:45.720
but it's not the main one. I think that you know,
1795
01:57:45.880 --> 01:57:48.680
none of us. They never said, you know, the army
1796
01:57:48.720 --> 01:57:51.079
crawls on its belly for gold. No, It's like, we
1797
01:57:51.199 --> 01:57:55.640
need food. Food is the thing that makes all things tick.
1798
01:57:55.760 --> 01:57:59.239
And if we don't have sustenance, we can't continue living.
1799
01:57:59.840 --> 01:58:02.000
And so when we get right down again to the
1800
01:58:02.279 --> 01:58:05.399
very basis of our humanity. What do we need to have.
1801
01:58:05.560 --> 01:58:07.600
We need to have clean air, We need to have
1802
01:58:07.760 --> 01:58:11.119
clean water, we need to have clean soil. Those are
1803
01:58:11.199 --> 01:58:14.479
the three main forces that are absolutely necessary for the
1804
01:58:14.560 --> 01:58:18.960
production of food and for the production of healthy humanity.
1805
01:58:19.039 --> 01:58:21.319
Because the more toxins that we have, the more disease
1806
01:58:21.439 --> 01:58:24.800
incidents of disease that we have, the more incidents of
1807
01:58:27.479 --> 01:58:34.159
death and comorbidity, co morbidity and other different types of
1808
01:58:35.840 --> 01:58:40.319
concepts like this, they just perpetuate the less clean things are.
1809
01:58:40.439 --> 01:58:46.199
So if we can focus on currency really being, how
1810
01:58:46.319 --> 01:58:49.039
clean is our environment, how clean is our food, How
1811
01:58:49.119 --> 01:58:51.439
clean is our water, how clean is our air? The
1812
01:58:51.520 --> 01:58:53.560
things that make all things tick. How rich are we
1813
01:58:53.960 --> 01:58:57.840
in abundant resources, how much forested area are we able
1814
01:58:57.920 --> 01:59:00.760
to create or reforest in order to to give life
1815
01:59:00.880 --> 01:59:04.279
to wild animals? And how many animals can we steward
1816
01:59:04.319 --> 01:59:07.279
inside of this area sustainably in order to create the
1817
01:59:07.359 --> 01:59:10.800
best biodiversity possible and ensure the food networks not just
1818
01:59:10.920 --> 01:59:13.439
for us, but for them, because all of them have
1819
01:59:13.560 --> 01:59:17.199
an intricate place inside of ecology that are able to
1820
01:59:17.279 --> 01:59:22.439
balance and speak to various aspects of well being, and
1821
01:59:22.600 --> 01:59:25.680
the greater the well being of our ecology, the greater
1822
01:59:25.840 --> 01:59:28.800
the well being of ourselves. Because we derive our food
1823
01:59:28.880 --> 01:59:33.079
and our sustenance from the ecology entirely, we are not
1824
01:59:33.199 --> 01:59:35.039
separate from it. We are one with it, and so
1825
01:59:35.279 --> 01:59:38.199
we have to be able to value those things. And
1826
01:59:38.399 --> 01:59:41.319
when we talk about value, that is when we are
1827
01:59:41.399 --> 01:59:44.359
talking about money. That's when we're talking about currency. We
1828
01:59:44.520 --> 01:59:47.880
place value on money, We place value on currency. The
1829
01:59:48.000 --> 01:59:51.720
physical value system that makes things tick really is that,
1830
01:59:52.079 --> 01:59:57.560
and so economics and currency need to be intertwined. And
1831
01:59:57.680 --> 02:00:00.199
like I said, you know, my thing is as far
1832
02:00:00.239 --> 02:00:02.239
as I can get, as deep as I've been able
1833
02:00:02.279 --> 02:00:04.960
to go with this over the past twelve or so
1834
02:00:05.159 --> 02:00:10.119
years now, we've really got to focus on our ecology
1835
02:00:10.239 --> 02:00:14.439
and our natural resources of each and every individual area
1836
02:00:14.640 --> 02:00:18.960
and realize how sustainable or unsustainable it is for human
1837
02:00:19.079 --> 02:00:23.600
existence and for other existence like animal existence or forest
1838
02:00:23.640 --> 02:00:26.119
existence to exist in that area. Like I would not
1839
02:00:26.319 --> 02:00:29.479
advocate going to the Sahara Desert and trying to reforest
1840
02:00:29.600 --> 02:00:32.840
that area because it is a desert for a reason.
1841
02:00:33.319 --> 02:00:36.239
But when we take areas like around the Great Lakes
1842
02:00:36.279 --> 02:00:40.279
region or other things that were forested we can actually
1843
02:00:40.439 --> 02:00:44.880
not only reforest big portions of those areas, but we
1844
02:00:45.000 --> 02:00:48.319
can also help to evolve the natural state of those forests.
1845
02:00:48.399 --> 02:00:50.199
Kind of like what I was referring to earlier is
1846
02:00:50.279 --> 02:00:54.239
that a really young forest is oftentimes pine trees and
1847
02:00:54.319 --> 02:00:57.520
evergreens and things like that. And the further along that
1848
02:00:57.640 --> 02:01:00.520
the evolution of that system goes, you'll begin to see
1849
02:01:00.960 --> 02:01:03.119
more hardwood trees and so on and so forth. And
1850
02:01:03.239 --> 02:01:08.199
we can begin to with our technologies, sustainable technologies, all
1851
02:01:08.279 --> 02:01:13.000
chemical technology, to begin to steward that change and moving
1852
02:01:13.079 --> 02:01:16.159
it in the right direction, not only to fit our needs,
1853
02:01:16.239 --> 02:01:19.199
but the needs of a growing and evolving ecology as well.
1854
02:01:19.960 --> 02:01:22.239
So, in other words, we need to become more like
1855
02:01:22.359 --> 02:01:26.960
the plants and trees and have this shared type of
1856
02:01:27.119 --> 02:01:31.159
ecosystem amongst us and share each other's resources in a
1857
02:01:31.239 --> 02:01:33.560
way that collectively benefits everyone.
1858
02:01:35.239 --> 02:01:38.079
Well that's one option. I mean, what you're saying, if
1859
02:01:38.159 --> 02:01:41.239
I take that out of context, sounds strangely like socialism.
1860
02:01:40.880 --> 02:01:41.760
Or constrct.
1861
02:01:42.880 --> 02:01:45.439
And we don't want to go down that road because
1862
02:01:45.520 --> 02:01:49.159
that ignores what is important for the individual. And so
1863
02:01:49.439 --> 02:01:52.520
this is where our cosmology and our philosophy needs to
1864
02:01:52.560 --> 02:01:55.119
be taken care of first, and we need to realize
1865
02:01:55.279 --> 02:01:59.159
we like each step of these builds upon the last step,
1866
02:01:59.720 --> 02:02:03.520
and so these things need to stay. Like, for instance,
1867
02:02:03.680 --> 02:02:06.239
if we were like the trees and sharing all of
1868
02:02:06.319 --> 02:02:09.199
our resources because we wanted to and it was in
1869
02:02:09.439 --> 02:02:13.319
our best interest to do that, that's a good system.
1870
02:02:14.119 --> 02:02:16.880
But if we were doing that because we were forced to,
1871
02:02:17.000 --> 02:02:20.720
then that violates my second principle of our law and
1872
02:02:21.000 --> 02:02:24.520
justice and those rights that I have as an individual
1873
02:02:24.680 --> 02:02:28.079
being stepped upon. So we have to be able to
1874
02:02:28.439 --> 02:02:30.720
keep in mind what the right is but also what
1875
02:02:30.800 --> 02:02:35.600
our responsibility is, and when we can balance those things,
1876
02:02:35.720 --> 02:02:38.640
then we will naturally, I think, want to take care
1877
02:02:38.680 --> 02:02:42.279
of other folks to the best of our capacity. But again,
1878
02:02:42.399 --> 02:02:44.720
we have to kind of get out of our traumas first,
1879
02:02:44.920 --> 02:02:48.039
because traumas keep us just in a state of self
1880
02:02:48.119 --> 02:02:52.359
preservation and self survival. Once we're able to process those
1881
02:02:52.439 --> 02:02:56.760
things in real time, they our humanity opens up and
1882
02:02:56.840 --> 02:02:58.800
we become a lot more generous and a lot more
1883
02:02:58.840 --> 02:03:01.359
giving because we're not just focusing on ourselves. And you
1884
02:03:01.439 --> 02:03:03.640
can see, like when people deal with their traumas, their
1885
02:03:03.760 --> 02:03:05.960
first thing that they want to do is help other
1886
02:03:06.000 --> 02:03:10.520
people overcome their traumas. It's just the natural capacity of
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what happens. It's like, oh I did this and this work.
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Let me show you what I did and maybe that
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will work for you type of thing. And so in
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that way, we do begin sharing our resources, we do
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begin sharing our things. So if we could become like
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the trees, that would be really, really awesome. We're a
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very far far way away from that. And we have
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to realize too that we're some of us are going
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to be the trees. Some of us are going to
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be the brush, some of us are going to be
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the grasses. Some of us are going to be the
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subterranean tubers and roots and corns and rhizomes. Some of
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us are going to be the microbes. See, that's the
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diversity of ecology. And if we can find our spaces
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and our talents, our interests are placed in society as
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human beings, all of these roles will now truly be fulfilled.
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But we have to get first through the traumas and
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stop being a slave to you know, the corporate wage
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and whatever else, in order to even think about what
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will enliven us, you know, And so kind of preceding
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all of these things is what I refer to as
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the trans personal alchemical process, and that's where we apply
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these alchemical steps first to ourselves to overcome these baser
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traumas and self limiting beliefs and other things, so that
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we can become as self aware as possible and move
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in a direction that allows us to start to think
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about these alchemic culture concepts. So you're not wrong, it's
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just I'm not advocate advocating communism.
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So we've got about thirty minutes left. Let's briefly go
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over the remainder of these principles that you're discussing, and
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I want to close on what astronomology is.
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Okay, So, so the next one is citizenship and social dynamics.
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What are our role within society? What is our role
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as an individual citizen? And how do we choose to work,
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you know, for the benefit of our society. The next
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is agriculture and ecology. What is the role of agriculture
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and ecology within any particular civilization or community or whatever,
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Because it's going to be different. That is largely dependent
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upon the bioregion. You know, the climate, the microclimates, the
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you know, all those different things. They all come into play. There,
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and so we need to think about how we can
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steward those things as humans to create the best benefit possible.
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And again that can tie it right back into how
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resourceful is a particular area or location versus another area,
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and how can you know how slash Why would we
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choose to inhabit those areas or to focus on those
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areas for living because right now it's mostly economically based.
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People live in Los Angeles for economic reason or because
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they were just born there and have no way of
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getting out, But that in itself is an economic reason
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in our current society. So otherwise we would want to
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choose very deliberately why we want to live there, based
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on our own purpose and our own society and so
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on and so forth, and how we can contribute to
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that with our own citizenship. The next is our sciences
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and our technologies. This is important because you know, we're
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using technologies and the sciences entirely irresponsibly. Actually we're just
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developing for the sake of developing. We have to ask, yeah,
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we can, like I know that the human capacity is yeah,
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we can do anything individually, collectively, et cetera. But should
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we and why should we? These things are so critical
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to really explore not just personally, but collectively as well
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before rolling out any sort of technology or engaging in
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any sort of scientific inquiry into absolutely any area. And
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so our sciences and technologies, which also tie into our
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arts as well. Technology and art always go hand in hand.
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Art usually pushes the boundaries of why technology is created
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in the first place, because it's human beings pushing the
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limit of their own creativity in their own imagination. That's
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what gives rise to technology. So arts, sciences, technology, they
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all kind of go hand in hand, but we need
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to be able to steward those in a much better way.
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And then, lastly, our healing and our medicine practices, what
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does it look like for us, because you know, we're
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already at the point where within five to ten years
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there are going to be injections. I've been following the
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science on this very intensely, that there will be injections
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that we can do that are able to reverse the
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aging process of the DNA and of the mitochondria. And
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that's amazing for so many people. I mean, when you
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could take Grandma who has been suffering for a long
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time and reverse her aging process to the point where
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she's now, say, twenty eight years old.
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Again.
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Wow, that's a new lease on life, not just metaphorically,
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like physically, and that brings with it all sorts of
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wonderful or wonderful capacities and ideas, But it brings with
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it an enormous way of responsibility. How are we going
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to choose to live? How are we going to choose
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to breed? What are the rules around that engagement, either
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spoken or unspoken, and so on and so forth. So
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we need to be able to think about these types
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of things and what is ethical? What is the ideal
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lifespan of a human individual? What is the ideal amount
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of population that the ecology can serve? And see, all
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the things need to be figured out personologically first, and
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then we can think about it on these slightly more
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telescopic levels. But each one of these principles that I
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brought up builds upon the last, So that if you
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build from the ground up, starting with that first principle
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of our human cosmology, all the way up finally to
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our health and wellness, then it gives us foundation to
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draw up on, just like the science of geometry does.
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Right.
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It's like when we do proofs inside of geometry. We
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are building upon logic that has already been pre established,
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and that type of logic is also the same way
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that I have tried to structure this alchemic culture system,
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where do this first, then this, then this, and then
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look backwards. When you're thinking about health and medicine, look
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back to the ecology, what does your ecology actually support,
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Look back to your economics. What do you do your
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economics support? Because right now that answer is with that
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injection the very rich, we'll be able to afford that technology.
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And do we really want the very rich living longest?
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Because they're oftentimes perpetuating the majority of the toxicity simply
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in the name of profit. So they got where they're at,
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but they've sacrificed so much of other people. They've you know,
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sacrificed other people in ecology and et cetera, or to
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be able to accomplish that. So that, in a nutshell
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is basically al chemical ture philosophy right on, man.
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I Love this discussion is stimulating all kinds of different
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types of thoughts and concepts that we should be really
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looking towards. Now. To close out, tell us all about
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astronomology and the astromological calendar.
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Cool. Yeah, First of all, that is a hell of
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a mouthful, isn't it. Yeah, okay, so astronomology was I
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didn't create that term, but I have used it professionally.
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That term was created before me. It was one of
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those things where I thought I created it, and then
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I look it up and it's like, oh, people have
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already used that. But it's basically a blend of astronomy,
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that's the astrono part and astrology, which is the ology
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part of it. And so for me as an esotericist,
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astrology has always been a very important part of the
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hermetic parent time and as an alchemist, we would rarely
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be anywhere without this history of astrology kind of following us.
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But in my own workings, I have found that the
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biodynamic calendar was far more correct than like the tropical
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astrology that was used before the time of Paracelsus, and
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even during the time Paracelsist didn't like to use astrology. Actually,
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he said that astronomy was important in that we would
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be able to see the actual planets in their positions.
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So what he was referring to is like almost a
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true astronomical alignment of things. But he still brought up
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all of these concepts that were kind of astrological in nature,
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even though he didn't like the astrology of the time
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and spoke very outwardly against it. But other astrologers in
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the Renaissance were very big on this, and you know,
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of course today it's so popular that in the newspapers
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and magazines you have horoscopes for people's sun science. But
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the thing is is that all of those planets, whether
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we're talking about veda ca astrology, which is a form
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of siderial astrology, or whether we're talking about tropical astrology,
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which is used by most astrologers in the United States
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and abroad these days, they don't align whatsoever with the
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actual planet. So we could say that like, oh, the
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Sun is in Aries on March twentieth, Well, what does
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that mean? Because when I take a look at the
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position of the Sun around that time, it's actually still
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very clearly in the constellation of Pisces. And what I
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mean by that is that here in the background around
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the ecliptic as we're looking in the sky, is the
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constellation of Pisces, and the Sun is right in front
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of that constellation. So that means the Sun is in Pisces.
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But again, tropical astrologers are saying, well, no, it's actually
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in Aries. But Aries is way over here, and the
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Sun is not over there, it's over here. And so
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I started to notice in my own astrological works, especially
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engaging in biodynamic agriculture, that the Sun is actually not
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where they were saying that it is. From an astronomical perspective,
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And what does that mean? And what happens if I
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align the positions of where I'm actually perceiving the Sun
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to be from my topicentric perspective here on Earth and
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where the constellations are, And what happens if I change
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my perspective and say, instead of Sun and airy, sun
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is actually in Pisces. And so this means that root
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vegetables should ideally be planted at this particular time, or
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that roots actually have the greatest vitality. And that's what
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happens in the spring, is that the roots are waking
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up inside of everything and they're starting to send their
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energy outwards. And the Sun is all about the distribution
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of vitality and energy, and it's exuding from the root
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at the spring equinox. So to me, I've been able
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to see that there is a different perspective there. So
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I have combined astrology with astronomy, and the form of
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astrology that I use was created by Athin Kamenti. A
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lot of people have heard me exalt his virtues over
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the years.
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I've had ethyn On a couple of weeks ago.
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Yeah, he's awesome. I love him. Can't speak highly enough
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about him. So his astrology was the very first astrology form,
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which he calls true sceterial astrology that I was able
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to actually validate and verify through clinical studies on humans
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as well as validate with my plants inside of my
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gardens and by utilizing biodynamic principles Maria Tuon style biodynamic principles,
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but with his count of the true serial astrological positions
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of astronomical bodies. And what's interesting is his form is
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even more accurate than the International Astronomical Union data, which
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is looking at things from an astronomical perspective, and all
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he's doing it's very simple system is you take the
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end of one constellation along the ecliptic and the beginning
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of the next, and this is derived from the last star,
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the furthest star in one constellation Sa Pisces and the
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first star of Ares, and he draws the midpoint between
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those and he says, that's now the cusp And as
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the planets go through the entire you know, ecliptic, which
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is to say, all the different constellations, we realize that
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there is actually thirteen of those, not just twelve, because
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even though it's just the smallest little bit of the
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foot of Ophiuchus that is along the ecliptic. And we
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do have evidence that ancient cultures would have used this
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as well, especially Greeks. Pre Ptolemaic Greeks would have definitely
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used this. So I started validating a lot of his
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research when I found his work and have been running
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split tests on it ever since. And since twenty twenty two,
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I have been creating the astronomyological calendars, which basically break
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down the position of where all of the planets actually
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are and in what actual constellations, and then combining that
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with proper astronomy too, so letting people know you know,
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when our eclipses and like today, for instance, the Earth
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is at perihelion today, which means that the Earth is
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the closest to the Sun that it will be all
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year long, and so we include perihelion data and ap
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helion data for not just Earth, but all of the planets.
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We also give appage and paragee times for the moon,
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and I lay out all six of the different lunar rhythms,
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which is to say, waxing and waning cycles, the ascending
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and descending moon cycles, ascending node and descending node cycles,
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and it's the appogee and perag cycles. So much more so,
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I have done my very best to be able to
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take everything that can be validated and verified using alchemical
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lab work and agriculture and put it into a style
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of a calendar that can be used for Auralian spageria,
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like the spagirics that I practice, are slightly different, even
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if only technically in application and in pharmacology from what
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is oftentimes being taught at Spageeria. That's why I gave
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it the particular name or Aralians Spageeria, and for Aralian medicine,
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which is the whole form of medicine that I've been creating,
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and for alchemic culture principles as well, and so all
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of those are there inside of my calendar, and it's
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a huge undergoing. We only print off two hundred calendars
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every year because it's not you know, this is the
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third year that I will have been making this calendar,
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and so it's not terribly terribly popular. There's a handful
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of people across a globe using it, and it's only
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good for the Northern hemisphere at that. So we have
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some people in Europe and a decent amount of people
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in North America that are using these calendars, but it's
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less than two hundred people, you know what I mean,
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at least in print version. You can get this in
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pdf version on the website as well, but so yeah,
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it's growing in popularity. And what I have encouraged people
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to do is just like myself, I produce this thing.
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It's enormously costly for me to print. It's enormously costly.
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It takes me like four months to hand make this
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calendar because I have to do everything date by date
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by date and research and compare it to tons of
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different types of things. But I encourage people to use
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that and run split tests against biodynamic calendars or against
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02:18:48.600 --> 02:18:52.879
you know, like Llewellyn's calendar for Witches and you know
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other things where they ask you do you think.
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It could possibly be our collective misunderstanding of astrology that
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maybe is a contributing factor into the state of society
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these days where we've been led wrong in some ways.
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That was just a snowball effect over the centuries.
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Yeah, I definitely do, and I think, you know, I
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think the tropical astrology does have an effect. But the
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reason it has an effect, as far as I can tell,
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is because people believe in it, and anything that we
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believe in has some sort of power from the astral
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and so we are deriving some energy from that. But
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when we align our belief systems with more perennial truths,
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then we're able to get a much better result. And
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that was the whole basis behind this for me was
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let's actually, you know, the astral actually comes from Astra star,
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and the stars are putting out energies frequencies to us constantly,
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that that is a perennial truth. All of the Megalithic
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02:19:52.799 --> 02:19:57.239
and Neolithic monuments are aligned to the actual stars, not
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to the idea of where the stars would have been
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in some intangible calculation. So people are believing in things
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that give it some form of power, just like our
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government just like our currency, just like all of those things,
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and they're relying simply on the mental plane and the
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emotion of the adulteration of the emotional plane, that emotional
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sense of certainty that solidifies and crystallizes in those sick
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beliefs that have influenced our entire humanity, and sadly a
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lot of people are very subject to that. So yes,
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in short, the answer is yes, Chris, I do right on.
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Now, how do you feel about the energies of the
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upcoming years and what we could be looking towards as
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far as different outcomes, pivotal moments in the collective consciousness
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of society and everything that's happened and where we're going.
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I feel hopeful, because if I lose hope, then I
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02:20:56.680 --> 02:20:59.159
don't know that I would really keep going, you know,
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it drives me to a point of suicide or something.
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But realistically I think that, you know, I have seen
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a lot of changes that are very, very beneficial happen
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just in the course of my lifetime, and they're not
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taking mainstream hold yet, but they are growing exponentially each
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02:21:20.159 --> 02:21:23.760
and every year. And some people just need such a
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02:21:24.159 --> 02:21:26.600
hard and intense crisis to be able to get real
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02:21:26.680 --> 02:21:30.120
and honest and truthful with themselves that things might need
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02:21:30.200 --> 02:21:32.840
to get worse before they get better. But we are
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near that breaking point. I think, now, what does near mean?
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I don't know. That could be highly subjective, could mean
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this year, It could mean ten years from now, could
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mean fifty years from now. But you know, there's not
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one source of water on the planet that does not
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02:21:45.559 --> 02:21:49.719
have what is called a PFAS or pfos, a forever
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02:21:49.920 --> 02:21:53.920
chemical inside of it. This is every source of water
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02:21:54.000 --> 02:21:56.479
in the world. And that's because all water flows into
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one another throughout the whole world, through underground aquifers, through
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evaporation and rain systems and so on and so forth.
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They are all one system. That everything is one system
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at its base. That's the spiritual perennial concept of unity.
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But realistically, we're poisoning ourselves and everything else with our
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human behaviors that are unconscious. And so if we can
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02:22:20.399 --> 02:22:23.360
just make as you know, as Young said, make the
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02:22:23.440 --> 02:22:29.360
unconscious conscious, then we're able to really make some cool
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impacts and strides. And that doesn't take a lot. It
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takes silence, and it takes introspection and unadulterated honesty. We
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have to get real with ourselves. Why are we doing things,
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what are we justifying as our beliefs, as our modus operandi,
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and why are we participating in that? And once you
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02:22:51.040 --> 02:22:54.639
get to that answer, then that opens up the space
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for transformation and we have to We're at a critical juncture,
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I think, where we have to look at this as
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humanity if we want to go on with any semblance
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of our historical integrity that we have had since as
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far back as you know we can possibly go in
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02:23:12.440 --> 02:23:16.639
the archaeological records and however far humanity and humanoid like
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02:23:16.760 --> 02:23:20.079
existence exists before that, we really just have to get
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02:23:20.120 --> 02:23:22.399
real with ourselves, Chris, and we have to be able
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to see personally and sociologically what are the things that
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are the most important to us, and what can we
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02:23:29.719 --> 02:23:34.600
not sacrifice and what is you know, what do we
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02:23:34.680 --> 02:23:37.120
want the direction to be? And that is an answer
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02:23:37.200 --> 02:23:40.120
that every single individual has to have, or at least,
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02:23:40.200 --> 02:23:42.840
by far the vast majority of individuals has to have,
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02:23:43.559 --> 02:23:46.920
because otherwise what we're doing is the same thing is
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02:23:46.959 --> 02:23:49.159
what they're doing right now. Is that a small group
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02:23:49.239 --> 02:23:52.840
of thinkers, regardless of whether they're noble or not, are
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02:23:53.760 --> 02:23:57.799
going to guide the whole course of humanity, because humanity
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02:23:57.920 --> 02:24:01.559
is too lazy or trauma or whatever the case is,
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to take accountability for themselves. So I see that moving forward,
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cycles of the cosmos are going to continue to act
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on us, just as they have for many, many, many,
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many many millennia, and we can't avoid that. We can.
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02:24:17.920 --> 02:24:20.159
What we can do, though, is we can be aware
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02:24:20.360 --> 02:24:23.399
of where we want to be going and where we're
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at now and utilize the cycles that are upon us
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at any given moment to be able to help to
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instill a better future for ourselves. Like for instance, Mars
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02:24:34.159 --> 02:24:39.440
is moving into the constellation of Sagittarius today. That is
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02:24:39.520 --> 02:24:42.959
a very fiery energy, and that lends itself to calcination,
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02:24:43.280 --> 02:24:48.280
to self honesty, to the burning away of self justifications
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02:24:48.319 --> 02:24:51.959
and belief systems. That is a really great archetype for that.
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And if people can take this opportunity of that cosmic
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02:24:55.760 --> 02:24:58.920
cycle that is already inherent and shed to Earth from
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02:24:59.000 --> 02:25:02.440
the cosmos itself wealth and use that as the opportunity
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02:25:02.559 --> 02:25:06.079
the impetus to be able to transform, then we have
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some chance. And i'd, like I said, I remain hopeful
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because without that, I don't know what I would have.
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Excellent I love it, man, this was fantastic. We definitely
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02:25:17.079 --> 02:25:19.799
have to speak again very soon in the future. We
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02:25:19.920 --> 02:25:22.079
barely scratch a service on some of this stuff, and
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02:25:22.200 --> 02:25:24.959
we'll get much deeper before you head out. Remind the
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audience how they can find out more about you and
2256
02:25:27.600 --> 02:25:30.159
get a hold of all your content and everything you're offering.
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Thank you so much. Yeah, So, the best way for
2258
02:25:33.799 --> 02:25:35.399
folks to get a hold of me is through my
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website at Phoenixrelias dot org. We basically have like a
2260
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Patreon style structure, so everything that you buy, whether the
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Astronomological Calendar or any of the multitudinous, I have almost
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five hundred spaderic offerings inside of my Spagiic Hypothecary or
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even my meditation albums or educational series and things like that.
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That all continues to support my research and to me
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to be able to come up with ideas like this
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and to share them with the public and so on
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and so forth. So it's you don't have to subscribe
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to anything, You just buy what you want, and that
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helps to fund and support the research and helps me
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to continue doing what I'm doing. So Phoenixrelius dot org
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and I do share a lot of ideas and other
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things on my own podcast which is called the Alchemiculture Podcast,
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and you can find that on Spotify and Apple and
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YouTube and all the other places that things like that are.
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So if you like these ideas, that might be another
2276
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fun way of engaging with these these types of topics.
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Amazing. Thank you so much, Phoenix. This was fantastic. Like
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I said, we'll do this again soon and until next time, everyone,
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have an excellent evening. We will talk again tomorrow and
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I am doing great, So happy to be with you today.
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Thank you for taking the time with me.
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Yes, thank you so much for coming on. I'm very
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profound information about the nature of reality healing modalities like
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I said, so today we're gonna find out more about you,
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your journey and what you've discovered through your experiences. So
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this is your first time on Before we get started,
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let the audience know more about yourself, your background, and
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were you always aware of who and what you really were?
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Yeah, that's a great question. Actually, so being what it
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means being an Octurnian avatar, it's more in the sense
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that I am an doctrine being, and I chose from
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a already and ascendant perspective. I chose to send out
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a sole immanition of my Octurian self into our physical
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form of hybrid form. My body is a hybrid and
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to be able to be boots on the ground beyond
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the Earth in a time where we could perceive that
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the Earth would enter in such a positive and very
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powerful evolutionary process. We know that if you look at
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the timelines and the potential behind the movement of the
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timelines we have forced seen for a long time than
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the Earth along all of life form here and humanity
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and everything will re enter an era of re evolution. Again,
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that means that as much as the Earth has descended
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into a compressed truality polarized reality now that the Earth
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is moving out of that through the old cycles, and
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so there was a lot of discussion with our council,
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and instead of staying in my if you want to
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call this way, my enlightened self as a Nocturnian being,
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I could have chose to stay that way and have
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more communication or point of contact on the planet with
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people who would be chandler or teachers, and I could
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have communicated through the channel this way. But what we
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got to find out is that the level of effectiveness
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to be physically on the planet, it's much more direct
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than with we can do in terms of teaching, in
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terms of coaching, in terms of assistance, rather than going
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through the feel of the earth and everybody else filters,
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because even those those are channels and they provide really
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amazing information, there's still a potential of filtering out what
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is originally transferred to them, because you know, programming emotional
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filters and the capacity of the person itself to receive
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the frequencies and to maintain the potency of that frequency intact.
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think of it as a doctrine being wants to be
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on the planet with all of you. But the best
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way to do it was for me to have a
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physical vessel that will allow me to be more functional
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according to the ecosystem of the Earth, the gravitational pull
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through the aspect of it, the density of the frequent seas,
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and so forth. So this is why in reality, who
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you talk to you communicate with is that aspect of
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me as an octrine being and doctrines we know they
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are so ancient and already enlightened in their state. So
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I brought in a soul emanation or a fragment of
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my original doctrine self, and I brought this aspect of
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myself in this physical form so I can be on
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the planet. It's like saying, we want to send you
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on a mission on a serious and you're going to
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be working and living with the Syrian. Well, you're going
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to need to be adaptable that You're going to need
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a physical form that can sustain their climate or their
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planet or you know, the level of living or where
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they are. So you're going to need to have that.
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So we have taken the time to perfect a vessel
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that will allow one of us, and that's me in
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in that case, one of us to be on a
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planet and to be able to function and live among humanity.
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So we can understand truly from the inside, where is
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the level of consciousness, where the blockages, where is the challenges?
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What is really going on? And how can we support
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that evolution the best?
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If that makes sense, it does. How did you become
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aware of who you are and your mission here are?
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Were you just always aware?
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That's a great question. Actually I was always aware, and
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I remember distinctively, even as a young child, one thing
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that even as a baby, you would say, you know,
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even by the age of six months old, I can
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feel that I was in that state of presence. I
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can feel that I was mainly out of my body,
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but just enough to function here. And if I look
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at family members around me, they would say that I
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was a very beautiful but the baby in the sense
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that I was not displaying curiosity of wanting to crawl
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and grab objects and play, and I was more like
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staying there observing. I feel like I was in this
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observation more connectiveness rather than to be physically active. I
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was more active out of the body. And then a
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little bit growing up, even the age of four, I
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can feel that I was. I always felt like a visitor.
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I knew that I was brought back on the planet
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and I was here to learn, assess, experience, connect, whether
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it's relationship with kids at school, whether it's family members,
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whether it's later on, it's observing how overall the conscious
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awareness of humanity, the Earth herself, the ecosystem, how everything
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is shifting. Where are we at a time to observe
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challenge in between each level of evolution? You know, what
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is it that human beings are, you know, held on
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by whether it's emotions, the past, whether it's cultural programming,
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whether it's historical. So I've always been in that sense
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of observing it, and even to this day, wherever I go,
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use all of my senses. So I can feel the
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vibrational quality of the place. I can understand when people
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pass by me to see in their field, Oh, what's
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going on? Okay that person is I can tell there's
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nervousness in their field, or they're pre occupy, or they're
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on autopilots, or they feel attracted by the energy that
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is around them, so I can see at what level
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I will smile of them. I'll just make a smile
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just to connect, when in reality there's so much more.
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is how we are readjusting to see where are we
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in frequencies and vibrational movement on the planet and of
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overall in the population. So this is why I travel
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more and connect and I listen and look at the
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great system to see what needs to be readjusted, how
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can we assist to support the next level of shift.
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So it's always been a very clear knowingness. It's you know,
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it's there's this ongoing transmission of communication that is really flowing,
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like a very teipathic communication that is always there. So
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I can be sitting quietly, you know, in a public
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place or on a bension of park, looking like I'm
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just looking out doing nothing, when in reality, I am
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in deep communications with my integral liked group and then
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they're showing me to a great system or holographic projection
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what this sector is about. As they're influenced by negativity,
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Are there other things going on on the ground, what's
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happening into the transmission. So I'm just sitting there looking
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I'm sitting in the park, but I'm doing a lot
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of work at the same time. So I've always been
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this way. It's nothing new. It's just that how could
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I say my ability has increased over time? I went
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on through a lot of different upgrades. My understanding also
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through compassion, understanding, observation, knowledge, experience have also increased. And
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so this way the feedback I'm getting back to my
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group it's much refined. So they can also transmit all
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energy and work with other delegations. It says, okay, based
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on the one we have on the planet, we can
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see these transmission as shifted, or there's more interference we
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need to help, or there's a you which breakthrough, a
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catalyst coming in we need to reach us. How we're
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going to support that. So it's it's very naturally, it's
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very organic for me because this is who I am,
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even though to you I look human, but not to them.
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of them. But to you, I look like one of you.
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And that's the beauty of it. That's why it's such
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an effective bridge of direct communication and interaction.
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Are there others other hybrids like yourself that may not
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even realize that they are? Do you think that there
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are other incarnations on this planet that may have not
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only Arcturian genetics, but other type of extraterrestrials.
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So and I love it. Let's explore I love it. Yeah, okay,
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So let's let's redefine the word hybrid in my case,
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and I will. I'll start with myself and I'm going
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to go into a broader perspective on this. Okay. So
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the hybrid part of myself is my physical body. I'm
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not a hybrid. I'm a noctrine being. I'm a being
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who have a senate a long time ago, and I
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have chosen to send forth a direct aspect of projection
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of myself into a vessel, and that's the hybrid part.
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So my physical vessel was directly engineered by the Electurnians.
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and other groups who helps to perfect that genetic body
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or that vessel so that I can bring I would
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be functioning just enough so I can be on this
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planet functioning in a field that we call a third
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dimensional construct, which is very difficult for us because it's
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super low and super condensed. Who are naturally our body
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is more almost like more like each her roll and
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we vibrate super fast and a very high frequency. So
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imagine if you're this being, I have high frequency, and
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we're going to have to condense you like a ball
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to fit into an ecosystem that vibrates at that level.
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That would be super challenging.
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Right right now, let me ask, are your parents human
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or are they also hybrids of some sort.
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of human DNA just enough to create a connection. Think
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of it has a root connection to the earthplane, and
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I chose to do it this way so I can
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have a better connection to the planet and a great
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system of the Earth. So there's an aspect of me,
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but the aspect of me that is human or genetic human,
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it's very low compared to my original octurian DNA or
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genetic material. So yes, the mix has been done in
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a way that it took us a long time to
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perfect that vessel. But the percentage versus what is human
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versus was the other. It's very That's why I'm able
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to retain myself in such a continuous flow of frequency transmission,
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and my body is designed to sustain it. So I
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do have what you will call a human mother, but
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my father is my Octorian father. So that's like I said,
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I have a higher percentage of Octorian genitic material or
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TNA versus the human parts. So we brought in the
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human parts just as an anchor point to stabilize if
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you want, the matrix, and we build the vessel around it,
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and then everything else was done with the Nocturnes and
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the Andromeda, and they supported us in the perfection of
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this vessel. It took us many generations to come to
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be able to stabilize that matrix, so then both genetic
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material will be more compatible with each other. It's a
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very big endeavor. It's not something that you do over time.
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do that. So it was very well planned, which means
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that those who were involved, all the generational term bloodline
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was also we were communicating with them, we were explaining
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the project, so everybody was on board. It was done
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to our sole agreements. Nothing was forced. No one was
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taking another beds that night to the walls, none of
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that thing. It was done into a beautiful sole partnership.
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that sole group are part of what brought me here
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and why I am here today. So I'm very grateful
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for all you know, those who that bloodline, who contributed
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it was part of their sole mission. So I just
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want to redefine it because we do it with high authority,
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with high integrity or turns for masters of light, they
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are a light and beings and so I just want
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to redefine that here. It's it's very it's a very beautiful.
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It's an endeavor of love, it's an endeavor of being
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of service, and it's in response of a calling of
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an entire planet. I'm another guy at Earth. When she
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talks and send her single, we can listen and re
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receive those singles and we can communicate with the planet directly.
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is why it's hard for me to put myself in
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the same category of the word hybrid, because it doesn't
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really fit me since it's a more of a prototype.
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a prototype in that way. It's a very we push
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the envelope very hard for me to be here because
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it's very difficult for me to be on a planet.
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im immune system, I mean, name it. It's very challenging
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for me to be here. So I'm a prototype in
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that way. Now, without being said, there's many star seed
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on a planet, generation of star seeds, and we know
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star seed sole emanation of group consciousness who come from
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other intergalactic groups, interstellars, galaxies and multiverse, all of it.
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vibration or the frequency of that corresponding group, and that
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when they come here to support the Earth and a
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multitude of timeline and shift and evolution. So in that sense,
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all these star seeds, it is potentially true that their
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original star group might have added some little additional genetic
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while the mother was pregnant to help the soul to
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better adapt to their mission, So that will be classified
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as a type of hybrid. But you can tell that
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the difference is huge. Usually that star seed will enter
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the consciousness of a body that was made by two
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human beings. And as you understand the reproduction system here, well,
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in my case it's not the case. That's not the
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way it happened at all. So that part of hybrid, well,
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they're very designed to be on the planet. It's very different.
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The impact of how they're responding to the vibration of
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Mother Earth will be very different for them than it
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is for me, for example. That's another example. Yes, there's
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also other form of hybrids that will be a blend
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of either a mother or father human with an extra
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terrestrial parent. We see that, I know, we hear a
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lot about the Grays and other groups and things like that. Well,
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usually these types of hybrids are not meant to live
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on the planet with you. Among humans, They're more meant
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to live with their originals. To our families. It can
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be because they need a genetic stabilization to help or
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save their race, or to help them re evolve back
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into a higher state of consciousness. Many of those races
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who gone through much through technology, they lost something unique,
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They lost that spark of divine connection and what they
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do is that they turn to human beings because there's
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something about you. There's an emanation, a light, there's something
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that you carry in you that is very natural to
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the human race that they say we need that in
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order to rekindle with that part of ourselves. It's not
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necessarily because it's negative. There's a bigger design picture behind it,
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and I know, I know there's also government testing and
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other things, but that's another level. Well, if you look
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at the complexity of the word hybrid, there's nothing to
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be afraid of. If you look at the original genetic
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design or the DNA design or the DNA template of
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the human race, you have so much encoding from multi
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dimensional aspect of you. Many intergalactic groups have come to
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perfect and help, whether it's the play Aliens, when there's
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other groups. So technically you can call yourself a hybrid
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in that sense. However, the human race always meant to
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be able to evolve alongside with the ecosystem of this planet.
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If you come on my planet in my realm, you go, oh,
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this is wonderful, but I'm not designed to live here. Well,
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it's the same thing. I'm not designed to live here,
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but I'm designed to come and support you. That's the difference.
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We're human race. You're here too, more in sync with
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the planet herself, and then you're going to re evolve.
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That's the idea is to return yourself to your original state.
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You're not this three defragmented, polarized, fearful being. That that's
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an illusion, and we see that about you. Why do
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you think we went so much above and beyond to
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bring me to the planet. There's a reason for this.
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That's to help to accelerate a very specific, very powerful
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and empowering reawakening. So, going back to the over hybrid
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I just illustrate it the complexity of how the word
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can be applied and understood in many ways. I hope
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that makes sense.
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Though, yes it does. And I'd like to get your
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thoughts on the opposite spectrum of this. Are there negative
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extraterrestrials that are utilizing some of the same things hybridization,
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even channeling or types of contact to prevent our positive evolution.
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Well, let's be real here. You're absolutely right, and we
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will say so. That's the beauty when you're talking to
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a true, enlightened, already ascendant intergalactic intelligence that which says
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look like on your planet. There's a symbol that you
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recognize called in the end, right, So there's those a
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part of the gin and those are really heavy in
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the end. So what it means is that, yes, they
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are those who have no interest in seeing your wellbeing
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or expanding to your potential and rediscovering remembering at a
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deeper level who you are. There are those who have
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no interest of seeing the original DNA template of the
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human race to re evolve back to its original state,
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which is a much fuller twelve strand completely reactivated template,
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and then from that you can even evolve beyond the
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twelve strand. They are those who prefer to use you
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as slave or workers or servitude, or utilize your energy
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as a feeding source. It is true. Now, it doesn't
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mean that we need to be in fear. No no
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fear everyone, No fear, just light because the counterpart what
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we call the dark light polarity on this planet and
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on other planets too, they do exist, and we have
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encountered them so many times. We are well aware of
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the challenges that humanity has been facing. For me, we
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are well aware. This is why we're here as teachers,
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as guides. We come to help we come to support,
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but we're here to support your reawakening. We're here to
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support your empowerment to says, yes, we recognize there's the
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negative ones. I myself, Christopher, has been interfered with many
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by the negative ones and the dark Dracconians, the dark Reptilians, AI,
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all of this fun stuff, all of it. And believe me,
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they don't see me as a human. They call me octurian. Oh,
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you Aucturians. We want you to stop helping the planet.
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No I'm not gonna do that. You stop interfering in
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the human race. No, you don't one interfering. I'm here
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to help them, remembering who they are, I'm going to
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check them up. Says Hey, you're powerful, stand up with
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each other, grand your power. Bring yourself together. No more
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pickering with each other around religion and terry and resources
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and all of it. Bring yourself back together. That way,
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the negative one has no longer a grip on you.
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There's no longer a separation. It's so busy. When you
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are busy interfering with each other, you don't see what's
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going on on the other range. So, yeah, there are
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those who will gladly utilize genetic material from human for
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their own benefits. Yes, they do exist. Yes, many many
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interplanetary councils are aware of this, including a spiritual erarchy
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who is in charge of overseeing the evolution of the Earth.
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And I can assure you you have many of star
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brothers and sisters who want to see you thriving and
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rising again. But there are those who have no interests
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and that is very true.
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It is Yeah, you mentioned AI. Is this AI something
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of a cosmic nature? Is it man made? Extraterrestrial? Were
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you what are you referring to?
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Yeah? AI is not really men made. It's a phenomenon
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that we eve encounter in other worlds. It comes to
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the point where we see civilization going too fast in
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technology versus the consciousness that comes with that technology. And
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what happened is that that AI. It's more of an
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artificial matrix that is put in place when we see
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that the potential of a race or civilization that is
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on the midst of a huge conscious breakthrough. Then it
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gets intermingled into their world or into their you know,
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how could I say that It's like a false matrix
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that is put on top of their reality. So we
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have to be very mindful about that. Any technology, now
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I'm gonna make I'm going to give you a very
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ridiculous example. Would you give your cell phone all of
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your power? Or in terms of decision making intelligence, right,
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it's ridiculous. Well, AI is the same thing. Now there
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will be those who would say, well, it's useful in
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graphic design and accelerate this, or maybe in medical breakthroughs
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and scientific breakthroughs. What we say, another experience is it
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is a very delicate fine line. The balance is very delicate,
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and right now we see that rising. We found it
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very interesting think about it. We found it very interesting
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that AI is rising now at the point where humanity
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has been awakening more and more over the last three
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four years. I found it very synchronistic.
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Yes, let's talk about the era that we're in right
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now and what seems to be a lot of turmoil
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and chaos. You look back and you can see an
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evolution of consciousness occurring. You can see people waking up
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and becoming aware of the corruption, and they're becoming aware
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of their own true spiritual nature. This seems to have
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been occurring for a little over a few years now,
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but it seems to be intensifying in a way. The
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more that we seemingly are communicating this information and people
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like yourself for bringing this information forward, the more collectively
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we seem to have an understanding and it may be
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easier to navigate these difficult times.
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What do you think, absolutely, and this is why are
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becoming more and more because your frequency is rising on
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the planet, then you're allowing more of your I would
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say masters of light, teachers, enlightened indo galactic ancient ones
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like ourselves and others to come forward. You're becoming more
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receptive and acceptance to receive as kind of teaching and remembrance.
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So we do as it will help you to reactivate
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those ancient memory connectors. That's going to help everyone to
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navigate through those necessary change in structure on your planet
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with more ease, without giving up more of fear or anxiety.
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So I'll tell you what happened and what we see
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in your holographic field. When you're more in fear anxiety
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and you're overly projecting yourself into a possible future or
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super entroled by the past with these old movies playing out,
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we see your feel retracting. So what happened is that
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those who wants to manipulate you, go great, that's what
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we want from you. This is what we expecting from you.
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Give up your power, give us all of your life,
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your energy, your best of you. Then we can tell
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you what's best for you and going and redirect you
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into those fabricated illusionary reality. So this is why it's
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important use your higher discernment. Now, one thing is that
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get out of the lower mind. The mind asks questions,
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but there's no answers. What we mean is open your
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mental field to welcome this higher mental faculties, higher understanding.
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Stop to tap into ancient memories and knowledge, you know,
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start to be able to open your own solocashic record
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field and bring that connection directly to the very point
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center of your being, where your spark is, which is
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your heart center. This is much more than a spiritual cliche.
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This is pretty much the way you want to bring
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yourself back into your empowerment, clarity, sovereignty, freedom, understanding, working
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side by side. But those are great teachers. Those who
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really wants to support you and seize you as equal,
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not as an inferior, but as an equal, then that's
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the way to do it. Why two things very simple.
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Number one, it gets you out of the THEO metrix
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much more and you're getting more stable, You're getting more grounded.
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You can get more like you the way your mind works,
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your heart, utilizing your senses a whole different level. Number two,
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you're becoming more receptive to real guidance, teachings, redirections, being
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able to implement new practices, cultivating this state within you.
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So what you're doing is that you're bringing all this
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energy back to you instead of constantly wasting your energy
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and giving out whether it's upsetting political news, and that's
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what they want, They're going to create exactly what they need.
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You know why because of dark light polarity, whether the government, medical, field, education, historical,
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doesn't matter of what field, no matter, they understand the
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human being in the human template to a t more
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than you understand your own self. So human beings are beautiful, sentient,
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being capable of great compassion. You have these emotions that
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brings you back to creator, that brings you back to
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that point of origination. So if I'm one of those
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who wants to manipulate an entire civilization, what do I
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do I get to understand? What is the sensitivity? How
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it works underderstanding the template, understanding universe systems, and being
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able to play on this all the time. It's like saying,
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I'm going to put I'm going to connect myself to
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a fee to your house directly into the main source
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of power of your house, so I can get a
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portion of that energy back to my house or my system.
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And you will go like, huh know why my build
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is so high everymond or why do I have those
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power urge search all the time in my house? And
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you keep upgrading and you keep giving it power and energy.
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But in reality, what you're doing, you're feeding this other
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feet at the same time. So this is why it's
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really time to recognize that all of these old structures,
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whether it's financial, government, medical education, whether it's you know,
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societal communities, all the old structures that was based on
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a slave design. That's why it's crumbling down. But I
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cannot show you. And we're rising into new ways, and
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I know the transition can be uncertain, We know that
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the transition can be a little bit on you know,
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nerve racking. This is what's going to happen. What's going
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to happen is that you're finally shifting out of that compressing, limiting,
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three D false matrix reality that it's been dictating you
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what you can do, what you cannot do, what's allowed,
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what's forbidden, and here's our rules, and you're redefining all
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of it. This is white so much assistance. What do
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you think is so many star seed that returned to
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the planet. There's so many presents sighting in the sky,
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or you know, I hear my clients every day. This
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being came to me. What does it mean? Well, what
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does it mean to you? Did you ask for more help?
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Did you ask that you're ready to better understand who
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you are, your sole purpose, your true self, your gives
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your ability, there's so much more to you. Well, you're
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seeing the assistance you needed. But it's an assistance that's
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there to help you, walking side by side with you,
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as opposed to nim blame you. That's very different. We're
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not here to enable anyone, We're here to empowered one.
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Now, with this global consciousness evolution, do you see within
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our lifetime that we may have global awareness of extraterrestrials,
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maybe contact, regular contact with these beings.
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Yes, And that's what you call part of the word
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disclosure and the big umbrella of disclosure. That word or
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the semantic the meaning of that word is shifting. This
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is part of becoming more conscious that you are part
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of a very large, multi dimensional intergalactic community and so
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returning into reconnecting with your own origins, your ancestors, you know,
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your connections with these higher intercusmic cosmic intelligence becomes more
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and more normal accepted. Look at all the Aboriginal tribes,
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whether it's the Zumination, the Navarro they could hope, whether
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it's the Algonquin in Canada. It's all over the world,
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even all the way to Sydney or you know in Uluru.
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All the Aboriginal tribes and our elders have oral tradition
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of connecting, welcoming object intra extraterrestrial being connecting with them
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for generations. Why is it normal to them but not
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for the rest of the world. So, yes, this is
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where we are right now. We are re entering a
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more noble, higher cosmic era of reconnecting with different life forms.
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And one of the things that human beings have to
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overcome is to fear anything that doesn't look like you,
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anything that looks different from you. That there's more of
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a fear, energy or nervousness around it. But it's just
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embracing diversity of life. You're reconnecting with your faculty ease
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of true divine empathic responses. So practice with the animals kingdom.
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Practice when you see a pragmentis you know in your
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window or if you see something like if you looked
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close to it bee, where their big eyes and the
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way they look they're magnificent. Well it does. It repractices
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your internal senses to reattune yourself to accept different life
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forms and still be comfortable, be in tune with it.
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So the next three years or so it's going to
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be very I would say essential in that potential of
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reconnecting more consciously. You want to connect with cosmic intelligence, Well,
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be clear about your intentions, be clear about what you
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want to achieve. Are you in alignment with yourself or
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is there a part of you says where my mental
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curiosity wants to talk, but is a part of me
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the background I still have some fear. Well, they're not
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going to force that on you, not the enlightened ones,
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not the assented ones, because if you're a little bit
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too fearful, I'm going to say we want to connect
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with you, but your level, your channel or receptivity are
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closed down by fear. So let's go in dream state
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or in a vision or during a meditation. We're going
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to give you a vision that's more accepted, so you
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can practice readjusting yourself without having fear. And then we
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will come in our holographic field or allographic projection. Then
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we will make more direct connection with you. So those
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are practical and yet very beautifully advanced ways to already
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achieve yourself excellent.
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Let's talk about what we can expect collectively as humanity
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over the upcoming months and years. You talk about that
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we're going to be upgrade redd into this new human,
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this new body template with quantum DNA twelve strands. Talk
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a little bit about what's going to happen to the human.
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Well, it also depends on your state of awareness. Like,
590
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for example, well recently I did an interview with this
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gentleman who is so ingrained and so convinced of its
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own religion belief system that no matter what we attempt
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to share or to bring another perspective wouldn't be received
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if it was like deflecting of a really thick shield.
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So someone like him, and I don't need to mention
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any names as pointless. But someone like him who tells me, yes,
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you know, and told me that any beings who came,
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or the God who come to this world or real
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and wants to be worshiped and to serve them, if
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you convince our certain belief systems, and that can be
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enough to ingrain you into a certain paradigm of reality,
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and no one will force contact or evolution on you.
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You will still be able to evolve, but within that
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frame that you recognize. So that person, for example, instead
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of having a fluing conversation like we have, all he
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was doing for an hour is reading me the Gospel
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in the Bible to me literally, and I said, there's
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nothing we can do it for you right now because
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you're convinced. So there will be those on the planet,
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that's my point here. There will be those on the
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planet as a soul group of humans who will need
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to continue to evolve based on their religion or belief
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systems or what they're really their paradigm or their reality.
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They build themselves in for generations and eventually those souls
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will come out of it. The masters of why, the
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beings of Light have told me that no matter what,
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it's always evolution. It's just that there's a group of
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soul on the planet that will simply continue to evolve
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in the same level of third dimensional density until they
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have their breakthrough, and then they will have more assistance
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and they will move on to the next stage of
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soul evolution. Now, the vast majority of human beings have
623
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the potential given to them, but you have to practice that.
624
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You have to want it, You have to initiate the energy.
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You have to maintain yourself in a constant state of
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more serenity with yourself, serenity and harmony with all there is,
627
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the universe of the beings. You have to maintain yourself
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in that space to really help to recognize within your
629
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own internal universe the changes in your DNA. And what
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is the scientific The scientists of your world declare, there's
631
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only to stry it and everything else is john DNA.
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We always find it very amusing. And what do you
633
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think is that again? Now, disregard is amazing genetic encoding
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a library of information within you. Just disregard it. This
635
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is no good, and then focus more of what you
636
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have and be happy with it. That's a big reversal
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of a thought system that's going on on the planet.
638
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So what you expect, more reversal of thought system, more practice,
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more desire to recognize what is within you, open yourself
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to communicate with your higher self, your star families. Those
641
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are here to come to assist you cultivate and maintain
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yourself into a more harmonic place instead of giving out
643
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to anger, frustration, fear. So think about it. When that happened,
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I'll give yourself step back, bring yourself back into a
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point of zero point or neutrality, and says moving forward,
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I will be mindful of when and how I give
647
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up my power and my inner piece. So the more
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you're maintaining yourself in a space, the more your physiology
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is also evolving with you. So your body becomes more
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light as opposed to be dense, carbon based. So there's
651
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a change. There's a change at a cellar level, there's
652
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a change in your chromosome that start to feel that
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your body becomes more a higher conduit for the light,
654
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and also your mental faculty start to shift more complex, compassionate,
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intelligent platform that is also bridge with your heart and
656
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panic responses, divine compassion. You're returning into a more quantum
657
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human that is meant to be. You've always the designed
658
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to be this way. So, in other words, to be clear,
659
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you're shifting out of the all three D mold that
660
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casts you in terms of dense being that live their life, born,
661
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live and die, and that's it. You're shifting out of
662
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these heavy illusionary mold.
663
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Talk a little bit about what we can expect from
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our own human potential. You talked about how we will
665
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have more psychic awareness and abilities, but what about physically well,
666
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:47.840
be physically changed. Are we going to have the ability
667
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to live longer lives like it seems our ancient ancestors
668
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did tell us a little bit about that.
669
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Yes, it's all interconnected because when your body, your body
670
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structures become more light and increase its capacity to even
671
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understand in the code solar frequency solar transmission, and it
672
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then changes to the grid system. Remember you are in
673
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symbiotic relationship with the Earth. That means that the Earth
674
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grid system and her body is shifting. It's accelerating. That
675
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means your body is start to accelerate. What it means
676
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is that again it shifts you out of the denser
677
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three D carbon base heavy energy of a body when
678
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you have to eat lots of meat and exercise and
679
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get your muscle going. That's an all three D model.
680
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You're returning to be more lighter, more the body start
681
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to really start to shift. Even your cells the way
682
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they communicate on a quantum level, there's a remembrance like
683
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a reactivating a very ancient pathway of encoding and now
684
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is bringing you back out of the three D polarized
685
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model of the physical body form and more into a higher,
686
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lighter body that is more in sync with higher fifth dimensional,
687
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higher vibratory state. So can you imagine even in your bone,
688
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in the bone marrow the energy to transmission their transmitter
689
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:30.800
start to evolve that heavy density muscular systems start to
690
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get more light, more fluid. So of course everything including
691
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your brain functions start to evolve. You know, open up
692
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more than neural cortex, you know, new neural pathways the
693
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brain symptopsis, getting out of the reptilian brain, instinctual brain
694
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more into a higher intellectual aspect. Have to reset my camera.
695
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The energy is so high the equipment can barely keep
696
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up with me. It does that all the time, believe me.
697
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But I'm still here one hundred percent so it's a
698
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physical manifestation while we're talking. Actually interesting, So it really
699
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all these physical manifestations going to start to match that
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of the higher vibration and remember your state of awareness,
701
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it comes in in hand. If that makes sense. It does.
702
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It's very interesting what is occurring with the mainstream disclosure
703
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coming from our government and mainstream media and also the
704
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increasing paranormal type of stories that are appearing in our
705
00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:49.199
news feeds mainly surround surrounding UFOs or extraterrestrials. But it
706
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seems like these instances are going to be occurring more often,
707
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and they already are. What are your thoughts on what's
708
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behind the mainstream disclosure. Is it about rolling out new
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exotic technology for our military. Is it about getting ahead
710
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of something that they know is going to occur in
711
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the future. What do you think is occurring behind the
712
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:18.039
disclosure that they're letting us know that there is indeed
713
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something going on with these craft in our skies.
714
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:24.960
Well, the thing about this, it's nothing new. If you
715
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really look at all of your movie, scientific movies, TV series,
716
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speeches from former president and all of it in you know, institutions, government,
717
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they always been talking about this. It's simply been the
718
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skies more discreetly or taking into a way that was
719
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:50.239
just a random phrase, or you know, it was just
720
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a random fun TVC that came out, like Star Trek
721
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:55.760
back in the sixties, What do you think it was.
722
00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:59.880
Star Trek is disclosure and it's nothing about science fiction
723
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:02.679
is telling you about the Federation. It's telling you about
724
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how things are moving. It is a form of disclosure.
725
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But if you look today, we're more attuned. So what
726
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was discreetly brought to you over many generations now it's
727
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they can no longer truly hide all of these you know, technology,
728
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or they've been interacting with a multitude of itty races
729
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that lives with you on the planet at different places,
730
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different locations, or work side by side with military. It's
731
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not necessarily always for negative or for destructions. Sometimes it is,
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and sometimes it's just these groups are more neutral, like
733
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the Tall White for example, I forgot the name of
734
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the gentleman who was a whistle blower who talks about
735
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when he was in the military being assigned to a
736
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base like out of nowhere in the desert, and these
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itty beings, those groups live there with them, and it
738
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was going to interact with them, and they're not negative,
739
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they're more neutral. They're not here really to help, but
740
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they're more neutral, and they need to live on this
741
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Earth because their planet was destroyed or something happened. That's
742
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a level of what's been going on. You're going to
743
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start using more discernment to understand what level of disclosure
744
00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:27.400
belongs to what and what is it really telling you
745
00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:32.840
about your Earth history. It's just simply reminding you that
746
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it's a natural phenomenal that's been going on for a
747
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:42.440
very long time, but it's been disguised in ways or
748
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you know, projection or comic books and conference and or
749
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things like that. But now more and more people are
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coming out. Look at the nineteen forty seven crush and
751
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ros Well. Okay, now a year ago, I was on
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Rosewell because I have good friends there. I was in Roswell.
753
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So my husband and I which we pinpoint on the
754
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map where the site, the crashing site is, And you
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think about twenty twenty three versus nineteen forty seven is
756
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a big gap of Tommy between right. So I'm in Roosevelt.
757
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My husband and I are driving out of nowhere in
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the rain. It's overcasts, and we found the north gate,
759
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part of the crash site where the alleged flying saucer
760
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crashed on the land of this ranch land right, do
761
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let me ask you this question in twenty twenty three,
762
00:52:41.320 --> 00:52:44.159
even to this day, we're is sitting by the road
763
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park looking outside of there was a big fence. Outside
764
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of the fence, not even rattling it, doing nothing with
765
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the fence. But what I did as I sent a
766
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telepathic communication to the land and I asked to be shown.
767
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:02.519
So I opened the hoellographic field because I had these
768
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faculties and I can see memories of what took place.
769
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:10.119
Did you know that within ten to fifteen minutes we
770
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were intercepted by three suv. Ahea, it's raining out of nowhere,
771
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a little tiny one way road out of in the field.
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We do nothing. We don't try to jump it or
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grab things. We do nothing. All I do is to
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be there in this and I call upon my octrine
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indigation and he opened the field and I start to communicate. Now,
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how was I supposed to be interfered or intercepted out
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of nowhere when there's no camera, there's no helicopter above
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my head, and yet three suv were rushing towards our
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location rushing. So I got back in the car and
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we took off. When we got back to our hotel,
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and we park in the parking lot. Just by the
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time we got back back in the hotel, there was
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already an Air Force car. A vehicle from the US
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Air Force came and parked right next to us and
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stayed there for a while. Wow, that's nineteen forty seven,
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twenty twenty three, but that's just closer for you. And
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that happened to me a year ago. It's like it
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was ten years ago.
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Yes, Are you aware of any other hybridization programs from
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other races that may not be all benevolent that may
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be more of a service to self agenda or even
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neutral like you were saying, where they are doing hybridization
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experiments on humans.
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Is that part of a reality, Yes, but you have
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to understand this reality. It's a huge, multi mentional word
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because it's going to be a multitude of reality that
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is unfolding all at once. It is just as diversified
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as the word timeline. So what we recommend is, I
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acknowledge there's a lot going on, but choose what reality
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you really want to focus on. Lift experience and co create.
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So I will simply say one thing about this my mission.
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I am sent through the High Council of the Auctorians.
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I am part or so of the High Pristess Council
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of twelve. In our realm, I'm a very advanced being.
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My role it's to assure that in the future timeline
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the Earth is sent back again. This is what my
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role is about. My role is to ensure that as
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many soul as it is allowed will also reascent along
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with the Earth. This is my focal point. However, without
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being said, because I'm an Octurian, I get a lot
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of interference from the dark light. And what I know
812
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it's because in the last few months, a good friend
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of mine, who is a filmmaker, award winning filmmaker, call
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me and says, Vivian, I was contacted by a reptilian
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being and he mentioned you. This being mentioned your name,
816
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but they don't mention my name, but they mentioned me.
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So I got a phone call with my friend, who
818
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is a very down to our gentleman. We're a good reputation,
819
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award winning filmmaker, an author, very well established, not a
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type of guy who will dive into more into those
821
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conspiracy theory things like that. Just give you some background here.
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He was freaked out on the phone, and I said,
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we're going to send the record straight, bring it back
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into your power. What happened this reptile on being use
825
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one of his electronic device to communicate with them. Tell
826
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him that apparently they're working on this hybrid race. Then
827
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they want to mix human DNA with their own and
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they're gonna you know that he wanted, you want my
829
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friend to be a part of it, and you know,
830
00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:28.280
kind of more bringing intimidation and fear. And then he
831
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:31.719
said to my friend, he said, oh, on a side note,
832
00:57:32.599 --> 00:57:38.639
your octurian friend is of no no consequence to us.
833
00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:41.920
We don't care about her. And I smiled and I
834
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:45.400
told my friend, I said, if this reptilian being who
835
00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:48.639
was really managed just to contact you as an attempt
836
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to convince you, because you're a filmmaker and you may
837
00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:55.360
have some influence in the industry or whatever you have
838
00:57:55.639 --> 00:58:01.039
resources with, was attempting to convince you to join our cause,
839
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:04.559
why does this being fel the need to mention me.
840
00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:07.679
That's because again they don't see me as a human.
841
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:13.199
They understand that our presence on the planet is a
842
00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:18.280
game changer. We're shifting the frequencies. We're constantly modulating the
843
00:58:18.360 --> 00:58:22.400
frequencies back into a higher pure form of frequencies of light,
844
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:26.119
which come to part what they want to do, which
845
00:58:26.199 --> 00:58:32.639
is installing more fear matrix. So this supposedly hybrid rays
846
00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:36.559
that they're working on, while in reality, what I did
847
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:39.280
is I brought it back to the high console and
848
00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:43.440
I said, I want to have a decree made, a
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00:58:43.559 --> 00:58:46.440
new treaty made on behalf of the Earth that will
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00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:51.360
prevent these beings for doing this kind of false hybrid
851
00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:58.039
matrix reality push agenda in an attempt to again divide
852
00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:01.800
retract in many plays, So we have to be mindful
853
00:59:01.920 --> 00:59:07.159
in terms of whatever we hear. Sometimes it is put
854
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:11.840
in the field with the hope that as many people
855
00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:15.440
as possible will grab onto it so it can become
856
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:19.679
a manifested reality. It doesn't mean it's a manifested reality
857
00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:23.960
just yet, but they need your participation. And that is
858
00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:27.559
only one example of this, and that just happened a
859
00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:28.280
few months ago.
860
00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:32.199
Wow, now we've got a few minutes left. Do you
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00:59:32.360 --> 00:59:37.159
think that within our lifetimes, if we are in this
862
00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:43.519
ultimate positive timeline and we are embracing the positive changes,
863
00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:48.880
and we're evolving our consciousness in the correct ways that
864
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:55.360
we may see a lifetime without this dystopian control system
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00:59:55.639 --> 00:59:58.119
over our heads. Do you think that it's possible for
866
00:59:58.199 --> 00:59:59.840
that to crumble in the near future.
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01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:04.199
Absolutely, And I would say that the bridge of a
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01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:09.039
three D reality that is implying that control structure is
869
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:13.599
barely holding on by your threat. It is more it's
870
01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:17.280
weaker that it seems. And this is why we are
871
01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:22.639
stressing so much today, the importance to really understand what
872
01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:27.679
reality you wants to feed, because your God given light,
873
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:31.880
the power of what you carry within you, who you
874
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:36.920
really are as you are a cosmic internal being, and
875
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:40.320
only as spark of you is having this human experience
876
01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:47.000
right now. So imagine utilizing that energy. Says I choose
877
01:00:47.519 --> 01:00:52.880
to be part of this New Earth ascension reality, I
878
01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:56.760
no longer wish to partake. I have nothing else to
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01:00:57.400 --> 01:01:03.960
learn or evolve from. This really paradigm of being perceived
880
01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:06.960
as a linear being really past present future, that's all
881
01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:10.679
there is. This is ludicrous. You are not a linear being.
882
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:14.360
You're a multi dimensional being to begin with. So getting
883
01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:18.880
out of that restricted box with a control structures, whether
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01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:24.320
it's rs, tax, government, military, all of it. Remember one thing, though,
885
01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:28.840
there are light workers everywhere, whether it's working for the government,
886
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:34.239
military structures, there are light workers everywhere. So call upon
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01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:38.559
the light workers who are working at the level of structures,
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01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:44.320
because those structures are transforming. We are in the midamorphosed
889
01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:48.400
stage right now. It can be difficult kicking, screaming fear,
890
01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:51.639
or it can be you know what, I trust more
891
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:56.920
and I'm going to bring myself back into this quantum
892
01:01:57.119 --> 01:02:00.360
universal part of me. And I know that all these
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01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:05.079
structure that seemingly crumble down right now, it's because it's
894
01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:12.360
like saying, this beautiful field holding a very old village,
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01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:16.440
and these structures back in the eighteen hundreds are barely
896
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:20.320
holding and they becoming more a contamination to the field.
897
01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:23.639
Would you holding on to this building out of claiming
898
01:02:23.719 --> 01:02:27.320
it's historical or would you let them go and let
899
01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:30.199
them those structures crumble to the ground so they can
900
01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:35.280
be released, rejuvenate the field and create something new instead.
901
01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:41.360
And that's what you're looking at. It's finally happening. Generation
902
01:02:41.719 --> 01:02:47.559
and generations of star beings, star seeds, and masters coming
903
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:51.880
back to the planet in human form to help to
904
01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:56.079
finally bring the planet back to its original point. It
905
01:02:56.239 --> 01:03:00.360
is more than time. But again, you have a voice.
906
01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:05.119
You are very powerful being. Where you invest your belief system,
907
01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:10.320
your emotion, your thought, and your energy into can be manifested.
908
01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:15.679
So what reality are you really really to embrace? Be
909
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:20.320
with us, walk with us. It's time, This is your time.
910
01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:23.400
And the Earth is ready and she's shifting. Ready or not,
911
01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:29.239
she is shifting. And this is part of descending. Now
912
01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:33.639
the planet descended and now it's reascending again. It's you're
913
01:03:33.679 --> 01:03:38.480
simply it's a grand return. You're returning to reclaiming what
914
01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:42.679
is your natural That is your nature, what is organic
915
01:03:42.800 --> 01:03:48.559
in you, not fabricated through those authority. This is why
916
01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:52.440
your DNA is shifting. There's some genus getting out the
917
01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:56.199
gene of you know, obeying your masters and and and
918
01:03:56.760 --> 01:03:59.440
you know, feeling yourself if you feel the gods and
919
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:03.519
and higher authority and all of it, this gene of
920
01:04:03.679 --> 01:04:07.280
manipulation all be put in place by other groups to
921
01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:10.920
make a class worker out of you. I'm sorry, but
922
01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:13.920
you're not a class worker at all. You are those
923
01:04:14.079 --> 01:04:18.440
rial galactic royalties with all the genetic material that you're
924
01:04:18.480 --> 01:04:22.079
carrying you it's phenomenal and one day when you start
925
01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:24.800
to realize that you're going to go, I got out
926
01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:29.440
of this dream. What was I dreaming about? Yeah, this
927
01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:32.920
is what's going on. So no fear, everyone, stay in
928
01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:37.719
your light, stay in your empowerment, reclaim your sovereignty, three
929
01:04:37.880 --> 01:04:43.039
yourself from the mental construct, and there's no need to
930
01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:47.320
be wild by words like disclosure and whistle blower and
931
01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:53.519
of it. It's natural. You finally be accessing natural archive
932
01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:57.400
of history. This has been covering your planet for generations.
933
01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:01.880
So take it for not going to a salt and discernment.
934
01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:07.159
Wonderful, Vivian, this was fantastic information. I would definitely love
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01:05:07.239 --> 01:05:09.199
to have you back on in the future. There's much
936
01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:13.039
more we can discuss, but before you leave today, let
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the audience know how they can find out more about
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you and access some of the things you have to offer.
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And thank you so much. I appreciate that. So we
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have a website called Infinite Healing from the Stars. Infinite
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Healing from the Stars and one other thing that is
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really wonderful about what we offer and only we every
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month we do have free meditation series that really helps
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people to get more practice discipline, being able to have
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support tools and they are all for free. We have
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a large library authentitations as well on my YouTube channel. Also,
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we do have what's called the Universal Octurnan Online Community,
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so we have multitude memberships, very affordable ones we do
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every month is we have classes.
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We have the.
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Doctrin Olographic Group Healing series. We have also a private
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meeting with members where we do global initiative work plany
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work we do also healing together. We answer questions. We're
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helping you to shift and evolve and we're here to
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supporting you this way. And so the doctrin Olographic Group
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Healing every month plus the online community and we have
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members from all over the world and it's wonderful to
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see light minded people coming together. The quality of the
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members that we have is phenomenal in the level of support.
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It's meaningful, make you feel that you belong and it
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01:06:48.400 --> 01:06:51.920
helps you to remember the pathway that isn't calling you
962
01:06:52.719 --> 01:06:55.599
and we offer a lot, So that would be a
963
01:06:55.719 --> 01:06:58.519
great way to work with us and be in the
964
01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:02.320
frequencies on more regular basis. You can really start to
965
01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:06.480
feel a transformation for you and how it applies to
966
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your life.
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Excellent, Vivian, thank you so much. This was great. We'll
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do it again soon and until next time, everyone have
969
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an excellent evening. We will be talking again today. I
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want to welcome back to the show Phoenix Aurelius. He
971
01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:25.440
is a philosopher, alchemist, spajirist, agriculturist, teacher, and the founder
972
01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:29.559
of the Phoenix Aurelius Research Academy, where he performs in
973
01:07:29.719 --> 01:07:33.039
depth research in a vast variety of subjects for the
974
01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:39.599
development of Aurelian medicine and alchemiculture. His focus since twenty
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01:07:39.800 --> 01:07:42.760
fifteen has been to pioneer a new field of medicine
976
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for the twenty first century and beyond, which he calls
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Aurelian medicine. He also invented an entire movement called alchemiculture,
978
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which offers a philosophical approach to human existence designed for
979
01:07:56.599 --> 01:08:01.320
the modern world using alchemical principles. He is also host
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of the alchemiculture podcast Phoenix Welcome back. How you doing.
981
01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:09.119
I'm doing great, man, Thank you so much for having
982
01:08:09.159 --> 01:08:09.480
me back.
983
01:08:09.880 --> 01:08:12.920
Thank you for coming back. I really enjoyed our last conversation,
984
01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:17.079
looking forward to this one. You're working with some alchemical
985
01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:21.239
modalities that could possibly change the way we utilize medicine,
986
01:08:21.800 --> 01:08:25.640
and you bring back ancient alchemical practices that have incredible
987
01:08:25.720 --> 01:08:32.520
benefits for humanity and provide lost understandings of things like alchemy, magic, medicine,
988
01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:36.800
and the metaphysical realms that hold our existence together. So
989
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I can't wait to get into some of the things
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you're working on. But first, it's been a while. Remind
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the audience about yourself and what led you down your
992
01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:45.359
path here.
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01:08:46.520 --> 01:08:50.960
Yeah, totally. So most people kind of know me for
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my alchemical work, and admittedly that's a huge portion of
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what I do. So basically, really I run Phoenix Relias
996
01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:03.760
Research Academy, and I focus on two main things there.
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One is trying to advance a field of spigeric medicine,
998
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which was invented by Paracelsus in the fifteen thirties and
999
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was healing things like, yeah, epilepsy for sure, but plague
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01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:20.680
and syphilis and leprosy and all sorts of different types
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of things in the fifteen thirties. He was way ahead
1002
01:09:22.920 --> 01:09:26.800
of his time. Unfortunately, his ideas didn't hold up to
1003
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the scientific revolution during the discovery of things like oxygen
1004
01:09:31.479 --> 01:09:33.600
and other things as other elements, and they kind of
1005
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just threw the baby out with the bathwater and wanted
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to distance themselves from alchemy all together during that time.
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And so what I've done is I picked up a
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whole lot of his material, in fact, all of it,
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01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:47.880
and have translated it into English and relied on other
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01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:52.960
translations too, And I'm reconstructing this in the twenty first
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01:09:53.039 --> 01:09:56.640
century with modern chemical terms and modern technologies and other
1012
01:09:56.960 --> 01:09:59.199
things like that, and trying to bring it back because
1013
01:09:59.399 --> 01:10:02.520
most people don't understand that the root of our pharmaceutical
1014
01:10:02.600 --> 01:10:06.520
technology actually goes back to Paracelsis himself. The entire fields
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01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:09.520
of toxicology, the entire fields of pharmaceutical chemistry, which is
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01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:13.039
known as eatro chemistry, all has its roots in Paracelsus,
1017
01:10:13.279 --> 01:10:19.279
just one dude, and they have completely bastardized the technologies
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01:10:19.359 --> 01:10:22.079
that he created. Everything is supposed to be coming from
1019
01:10:22.760 --> 01:10:25.960
a single material that is being worked on, and the
1020
01:10:26.039 --> 01:10:29.600
minerals are supposed to be coming from the thing that's
1021
01:10:29.640 --> 01:10:33.399
being worked on, not you know, bastardized petrochemical wastes that
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01:10:33.680 --> 01:10:36.399
are you know, synthesized and other things in order to
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01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:39.920
be able to elicit an effect. It's like when we
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01:10:40.039 --> 01:10:43.920
use nature, we get a much better effect. And he
1025
01:10:44.039 --> 01:10:45.960
has a very pure method of doing that. So bringing
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01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:48.399
that into the light of modern day is probably one
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01:10:48.439 --> 01:10:52.680
of my greatest passions. And because my work differs so
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01:10:52.880 --> 01:10:56.920
much from Paracelsus work by term you know, terminology and
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01:10:57.279 --> 01:11:00.520
technologies that have you know, come to write since the
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01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:03.520
fifteen thirties and other things, we've decided to call this
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01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:07.560
auralians Bageeria, again, just naming it after myself, Phoenix Aurelia.
1032
01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:10.239
So so that's one thing, and then the other thing
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01:11:10.279 --> 01:11:13.680
that I focus on is alchemiculture, which is a broad
1034
01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:21.159
and very encompassing sociological application of alchemy that applies to
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01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:25.399
our entire culture as human beings. And so we focus
1036
01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:30.760
on areas like you know, politics and governance and the
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01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:35.000
ideas of like rulership, and what are the alchemical principles
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01:11:35.039 --> 01:11:38.520
behind that, or how can we utilize alchemical principles in
1039
01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:42.520
order to create more better systems or systems that are
1040
01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:45.520
more perfect than what we have at present and just
1041
01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:47.399
kind of lead us to the next evolution. And so
1042
01:11:47.560 --> 01:11:52.479
we apply this to just about every aspect of human existence.
1043
01:11:52.720 --> 01:11:56.000
And I've been researching this for at least since twenty twelve.
1044
01:11:56.479 --> 01:11:58.880
But it's also a huge passion of mine and something
1045
01:11:58.920 --> 01:12:01.920
that I love to teach about. So that's those are
1046
01:12:01.960 --> 01:12:02.720
the main things that I do.
1047
01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:05.880
I think a good place to start would be a
1048
01:12:05.960 --> 01:12:11.920
little refresher on the difference between alchemy and the modern
1049
01:12:12.039 --> 01:12:16.720
practice of how we produce pharmaceuticals in modern medicine.
1050
01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:22.520
Sure. Yeah, So again, I want to address this from
1051
01:12:22.600 --> 01:12:27.760
the perspective of like Paracelsian alchemy, because he revolutionized alchemy,
1052
01:12:27.840 --> 01:12:33.680
and pretty much all alchemical practices since that time have changed.
1053
01:12:33.720 --> 01:12:36.079
If we look at it before Paracelsus, there were entirely
1054
01:12:36.119 --> 01:12:39.279
different theories and cosmologies extending all the way back to
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01:12:39.439 --> 01:12:42.680
far ancient Egypt that we have written records of at
1056
01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:47.039
any rate. So with that being said, yeah, alchemy's whole basis,
1057
01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:50.640
when you look at it as objectively as possible, is
1058
01:12:50.760 --> 01:12:55.640
that everything is in a constant state of transformation. Modern science,
1059
01:12:55.720 --> 01:12:58.960
you know, and science classes we learned that energy has
1060
01:12:59.079 --> 01:13:02.720
neither created nor just desroid, that energy is only changing form.
1061
01:13:03.039 --> 01:13:06.279
And if we were to say change form, the another
1062
01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:09.800
word that we can use is transform. So if energy
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01:13:09.880 --> 01:13:14.239
is constantly transforming and nothing stays the same, then and
1064
01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:17.039
alchemy is the art and science of transformation, then kind
1065
01:13:17.079 --> 01:13:20.760
of understanding alchemy gives us an understanding to everything and
1066
01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:24.000
how it's working, where it's at now, where it was
1067
01:13:24.039 --> 01:13:27.159
coming from, and where it's going. When we apply this
1068
01:13:27.520 --> 01:13:31.199
to medicine, we have to take a look at the
1069
01:13:31.319 --> 01:13:34.680
evolution of the natural material or materials that we're trying
1070
01:13:34.760 --> 01:13:39.159
to elicit a medicinal response from. And the idea within
1071
01:13:39.239 --> 01:13:43.640
the alchemical paradigm since the time of Pythagoras has essentially been,
1072
01:13:44.399 --> 01:13:48.439
at least in the West, has been that we as
1073
01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:53.520
human beings are kind of the pinnacle of creation here
1074
01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:57.319
on earth because everything else as you go down the
1075
01:13:57.520 --> 01:14:01.760
chain is more pure in its essence, but it's less
1076
01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:05.079
complex in its constitution. So like if we take a
1077
01:14:05.119 --> 01:14:08.720
look at a metal, metals are literally only just one
1078
01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:12.359
style of atom, and there's usually a couple of different atoms.
1079
01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:16.560
You know, they're not usually just monoatomic. They're like diatomic, triatomic,
1080
01:14:16.720 --> 01:14:20.479
or the multi atomic we can say. And when you
1081
01:14:20.960 --> 01:14:25.000
take a look at their crystalline patterns, they have very
1082
01:14:25.119 --> 01:14:28.319
specific crystalline patterns to that metal based on the way
1083
01:14:28.399 --> 01:14:32.520
that the metal forms. But at its basis, it's just
1084
01:14:32.600 --> 01:14:36.520
one atom. It's just one type of intelligence, one elemental form.
1085
01:14:36.600 --> 01:14:39.800
Of intelligence, and so they're very very pure, but they're
1086
01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:44.000
not very complex. Eventually, metals get acted upon by say,
1087
01:14:44.439 --> 01:14:47.039
you know, oxygen, and they turn into oxides, or they
1088
01:14:47.119 --> 01:14:50.000
get acted upon by carbon and they turn into carbonates
1089
01:14:50.520 --> 01:14:54.439
or nitrogen get you know, turned into nitrates or nitrites,
1090
01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:56.520
and so on and so forth. In those form minerals.
1091
01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:00.640
Minerals now have two of these atomic forms in them,
1092
01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:03.880
and so they're still very pure, but they're less pure
1093
01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:07.279
than metals. And then when you go into the vegetable kingdom,
1094
01:15:07.399 --> 01:15:10.039
and then the animal kingdom, and then eventually into the
1095
01:15:10.119 --> 01:15:13.760
human kingdom, we continue to see that we are less
1096
01:15:13.800 --> 01:15:17.199
and less pure the more evolved the life form is.
1097
01:15:17.720 --> 01:15:20.640
But it's far more complex, with human beings being the
1098
01:15:20.800 --> 01:15:25.760
most complex. But because we're at that complexity, that vast complexity,
1099
01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:28.560
we are composed of all of nature, and we contain
1100
01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:31.720
all of nature within us. We need with the exception
1101
01:15:31.840 --> 01:15:35.479
of maybe mercury, like we need lead, we need arsenic,
1102
01:15:35.880 --> 01:15:38.840
We need all of these substances inside of us in
1103
01:15:39.239 --> 01:15:42.239
addition to you know, magnesium and calcium and huge supplies
1104
01:15:42.319 --> 01:15:45.960
and you know, chloride and sodium and all of these
1105
01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:50.119
other different types of elements and minerals, and we eat
1106
01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:52.159
the plants, and we eat the animals, and we eat
1107
01:15:52.640 --> 01:15:54.640
you know, all of the other things in nature. They
1108
01:15:54.680 --> 01:15:57.600
are a part of us. Their intelligence is contained within us.
1109
01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:03.560
And the idea really behind alchemical healing is that each
1110
01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:06.880
of those things in nature has a certain elemental balance
1111
01:16:07.079 --> 01:16:11.319
to them, a certain type of composition of fire, air, water,
1112
01:16:11.439 --> 01:16:13.600
and earth. Is the way it was conceived of before
1113
01:16:14.479 --> 01:16:17.359
the time of Paracelsus. After Paracelsus, he said that everything
1114
01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:19.920
has a balance of sulfur, mercury and salt, or soul,
1115
01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:24.359
spirit and body, and that we can draw upon all
1116
01:16:24.399 --> 01:16:26.920
of these other things from nature that we're composed of
1117
01:16:27.399 --> 01:16:31.279
and be able to purify through the alchemical arts, their soul,
1118
01:16:31.359 --> 01:16:35.560
their spirit, and their body or these four elemental forms,
1119
01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:39.760
depending on you know, which branch of alchemy and that
1120
01:16:39.920 --> 01:16:43.079
you practice, and what type of philosophies you want to use,
1121
01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:46.600
but that we are able to call upon these things
1122
01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:48.840
and use the alchemical arts to purify them in order
1123
01:16:48.880 --> 01:16:51.600
to bring the body back into balance. Now this stands
1124
01:16:51.680 --> 01:16:55.640
at a vast opposition to the pharmaceutical route, which is
1125
01:16:55.760 --> 01:16:58.800
to say that the body is just biomechanical. It's a
1126
01:16:58.880 --> 01:17:02.600
very Newtonian stand point, and it's like cause and effect,
1127
01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:06.720
and if you have this thing, then this thing has
1128
01:17:07.279 --> 01:17:09.920
the chemicals that you might be lacking or can trick
1129
01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:13.159
the body into thinking that it has these things, et cetera.
1130
01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:17.960
And you begin to just create substances to try and
1131
01:17:18.039 --> 01:17:24.760
create a biomechanical change in the organism. There's no spirit involved,
1132
01:17:24.840 --> 01:17:29.279
there's no soul involved. In fact, what ends up happening
1133
01:17:29.319 --> 01:17:32.159
a lot of times is that anytime that you synthesize something,
1134
01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:34.359
the moment that something is in flux. And this is
1135
01:17:34.439 --> 01:17:37.000
something that I have been able to see and I
1136
01:17:37.039 --> 01:17:40.279
can demonstrate to people in the laboratory when something is
1137
01:17:40.359 --> 01:17:43.560
in flux, Like if we take alcohol, we apply heat
1138
01:17:43.840 --> 01:17:46.520
that turns that thing into flux because the alcohol that
1139
01:17:46.680 --> 01:17:49.479
was liquid is now able to become as buoyant as
1140
01:17:49.520 --> 01:17:52.279
air and rise as a vapor and in that moment
1141
01:17:52.439 --> 01:17:55.399
that it is rising from its vapor estate or condensing
1142
01:17:55.479 --> 01:17:58.680
back into a liquid, either of those points. It is
1143
01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:05.239
highly impressionable to the thoughts, to the emotions to cosmic forces,
1144
01:18:05.920 --> 01:18:08.920
which you know people are like, oh, cosmic forces, but
1145
01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:13.119
literally I'm talking about electromagnetic signatures here that are present
1146
01:18:13.239 --> 01:18:15.319
from the stars that are reaching us if we can
1147
01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:20.680
see their light, and we're limited to the electromagnetic spectrum
1148
01:18:20.680 --> 01:18:23.520
with our vision. Even there are all sorts of different
1149
01:18:23.560 --> 01:18:25.479
types of forces that are at play all the time,
1150
01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:28.399
and these forces are able to imbue themselves into things
1151
01:18:28.479 --> 01:18:32.479
that are in a state of flux. And when the
1152
01:18:32.560 --> 01:18:36.680
fontutical industry hires people who are they don't care if
1153
01:18:36.800 --> 01:18:39.399
the technician is having a day or doing this or whatever.
1154
01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:45.159
They're just forcing chemical flux to happen and changing and
1155
01:18:45.239 --> 01:18:50.399
synthesizing substances. And when you do that, those emotions, those thoughts,
1156
01:18:50.720 --> 01:18:55.239
those frequencies, those entities quite literally are able to make
1157
01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:57.880
their way in there. And so we see the highest
1158
01:18:57.920 --> 01:19:02.119
instance actually of like possession from people who are taking
1159
01:19:02.520 --> 01:19:06.239
pharmaceutical medications, largely because of the environment that they're created
1160
01:19:06.319 --> 01:19:09.760
in and the lack of awareness of these spiritual and
1161
01:19:10.279 --> 01:19:13.920
soul based types of frequencies and how they interact with matter.
1162
01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:18.800
So alchemy is a very multi dimensional and holistic way
1163
01:19:19.039 --> 01:19:22.920
of approaching health and wellness, utilizing the soul, the spirit,
1164
01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:25.239
and the body in these different forms of consciousness of
1165
01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:30.720
all materials in nature. Whereas when we're just doing pharmaceuticals,
1166
01:19:30.760 --> 01:19:34.359
we're just trying to do elicit a biomechanical approach, and
1167
01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:38.319
it's oftentimes bastardized missing from my perspective two thirds of
1168
01:19:38.439 --> 01:19:42.439
the important equation of our entire humanity and reality.
1169
01:19:43.239 --> 01:19:46.279
Now, you said something very intriguing that I want to
1170
01:19:46.359 --> 01:19:50.600
dive deeper into. Is that things that we're working with,
1171
01:19:50.760 --> 01:19:54.119
whether it's scientific or medical or alchemical, things that we're
1172
01:19:54.199 --> 01:19:58.680
creating ourselves, our state of mind, our state of emotion
1173
01:19:59.479 --> 01:20:04.199
is a extremely important to be a good one whenever
1174
01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:07.680
we're working with this, because we can release some of
1175
01:20:07.760 --> 01:20:10.920
these energies or like you say, entities into the product
1176
01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:12.399
that we are trying to create.
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01:20:12.520 --> 01:20:12.920
Is that right?
1178
01:20:13.800 --> 01:20:14.039
Yeah?
1179
01:20:14.159 --> 01:20:18.840
Absolutely, Yeah, that's you know, I think that if there's
1180
01:20:19.039 --> 01:20:22.119
just like one really important thing that I could impart
1181
01:20:22.199 --> 01:20:27.000
onto people, it's that thing. Like you know, and all
1182
01:20:27.039 --> 01:20:29.279
of us actually have experience with this, we just don't
1183
01:20:29.439 --> 01:20:31.600
like tie it into everything else. We're just not putting
1184
01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:34.960
two and two together. Like when you were sick, Mom
1185
01:20:35.039 --> 01:20:37.960
may have made you some chicken soup, and when she
1186
01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:42.239
did that, she wasn't just like completely stressed and pissed
1187
01:20:42.319 --> 01:20:46.520
and whatever else. She's thinking about your wellness and trying
1188
01:20:46.640 --> 01:20:49.239
to get you it's like it's a sacrifice of love
1189
01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:53.119
that is going into that chicken soup. Now, whether the
1190
01:20:53.239 --> 01:20:56.479
chicken itself was sourced really well or can cause cellular
1191
01:20:56.600 --> 01:21:02.479
inflammation or whatever else takes background, that's not the precedent here,
1192
01:21:02.640 --> 01:21:05.960
because it's the energy that went into the thing that
1193
01:21:06.159 --> 01:21:10.119
is actually healing us on some degree, regardless of the
1194
01:21:10.159 --> 01:21:13.920
physical materials that actually go into it. Because again we're
1195
01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:16.960
multidimensional beings. You know, we have a spiritual body, We
1196
01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:19.800
have this causal body. We have an astral body that
1197
01:21:19.920 --> 01:21:22.079
is kind of composed of the mental and the emotional,
1198
01:21:23.119 --> 01:21:25.279
and then we have an etheric body, which is purely
1199
01:21:25.359 --> 01:21:30.199
electromagnetic interface. It's a piezo electric interface that exists throughout
1200
01:21:30.199 --> 01:21:34.880
our entire fascia inside of our network, our physiological network.
1201
01:21:34.920 --> 01:21:37.079
And then we have a physical body that is just
1202
01:21:37.520 --> 01:21:40.359
you know, atoms and molecules and tissues and cells and
1203
01:21:40.439 --> 01:21:41.880
so on and so you know, organs and so on
1204
01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:46.600
and so forth. And physical stuff affects the physical body,
1205
01:21:47.800 --> 01:21:51.439
emotional stuff affects the emotional portion of our astral body,
1206
01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:54.640
and the thoughts affect the astral the mental part of
1207
01:21:54.680 --> 01:21:59.000
our astral body. The geometries, the crystallizations, the coherence, the
1208
01:21:59.079 --> 01:22:01.960
cause and effect, the affect, the causal plane, and the
1209
01:22:02.119 --> 01:22:05.880
sense of oneness and our connection back to the source
1210
01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:08.840
of all creation. However we want to conceive of that,
1211
01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:11.359
there's no right or wrong way. There's myriad ways of
1212
01:22:11.560 --> 01:22:15.079
looking and philosophizing about that. But our connection to that
1213
01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:20.159
is what ties us back into spiritual well being. And
1214
01:22:20.279 --> 01:22:22.920
so when mom is making these things, she has the
1215
01:22:23.039 --> 01:22:26.199
emotional resonance of God, I'd hate my baby to be sick,
1216
01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:29.119
you know, and the mental concept of I need my
1217
01:22:29.239 --> 01:22:33.239
baby to be well, and the physical, you know, healing
1218
01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:36.119
stuff that goes in it. You know, you all of
1219
01:22:36.199 --> 01:22:40.239
your carrots that have carotenoids and beta carotene and stuff
1220
01:22:40.279 --> 01:22:43.439
like that, and you know celery that has these things
1221
01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:48.600
that reduce cellular inflammation, the bone broth that is from
1222
01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:52.159
boiling the whole chicken down, if you know, if she
1223
01:22:52.319 --> 01:22:54.640
wasn't just making it with chicken breast, maybe even the
1224
01:22:54.720 --> 01:22:57.199
homemade noodles, and the love that goes into that and
1225
01:22:57.239 --> 01:22:59.840
all these other things. So it's it's approaching us on
1226
01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:03.840
the multi dimensional level. And so cooking and you know,
1227
01:23:04.039 --> 01:23:07.560
kitchen witchery is oftentimes the way that I discuss and
1228
01:23:07.680 --> 01:23:10.880
teach about that from a kind of a more entertaining view.
1229
01:23:11.319 --> 01:23:14.920
These days, those types of things are really critical because
1230
01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:17.479
we have the ability to imbue things during the state
1231
01:23:17.600 --> 01:23:20.720
of that boil, that flux again that that material is
1232
01:23:20.800 --> 01:23:23.399
going through. Same thing with making infusions and teas and
1233
01:23:23.479 --> 01:23:26.520
whatever else. But when we engage in alchemy, we're not
1234
01:23:26.760 --> 01:23:31.000
just eliciting a small change, we're eliciting a whole progressive
1235
01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:34.479
series of changes, so that the material that we started
1236
01:23:34.520 --> 01:23:38.359
with is no longer even recognizable in its energetics or
1237
01:23:38.600 --> 01:23:41.840
its capacity, because we've extracted the soul, the spirit, and
1238
01:23:41.880 --> 01:23:45.800
the body of these materials and perfected each of those
1239
01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:49.640
and then recombined it back together. So at its lowest sense,
1240
01:23:50.079 --> 01:23:53.359
it is now an exalted form of what it initially was,
1241
01:23:53.800 --> 01:23:58.000
and at its greatest potential, it is entirely transformed to
1242
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such a degree that you can't even tell that it
1243
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would have come from that initial material.
1244
01:24:02.880 --> 01:24:07.720
So, now going deeper into the materials that you're utilizing,
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01:24:08.119 --> 01:24:11.479
you mentioned several times the spirit of this material, and
1246
01:24:11.880 --> 01:24:15.840
the more collectively that we understand about the nature of reality,
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01:24:16.279 --> 01:24:20.039
the more we understand that everything has a level of consciousness.
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01:24:20.800 --> 01:24:23.840
Maybe you could give us some examples of that. I mean,
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01:24:23.960 --> 01:24:26.960
it's pretty obvious with the animal kingdom with humans that
1250
01:24:27.039 --> 01:24:31.520
there's consciousness there, But even with plants and minerals.
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01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:35.319
Is that right? Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely, so, you know,
1252
01:24:35.760 --> 01:24:39.039
for instance, you know, like you, like you mentioned with
1253
01:24:39.159 --> 01:24:42.560
plants and animals, we can really tell that there is
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01:24:43.279 --> 01:24:47.319
sentience there. And we would refer to that form of
1255
01:24:47.479 --> 01:24:51.199
consciousness as the sulfur of the material, the soul of
1256
01:24:51.319 --> 01:24:56.520
the material, and that soul really has two different grades
1257
01:24:57.039 --> 01:24:59.479
or two different forms. There's one that's called the volatile
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01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:03.119
sulfur or volatile soul, and in modern metaphysics this would
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01:25:03.159 --> 01:25:05.600
kind of be referred to as the higher self. It
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01:25:05.760 --> 01:25:09.039
is the aspect of us that perhaps exists in the
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01:25:09.119 --> 01:25:12.680
subconscious and unconscious components that just gives us our talents
1262
01:25:12.760 --> 01:25:16.079
and our interests, Like why are you interested in the
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01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:19.880
occult and in metaphysics and things like You may not
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01:25:20.079 --> 01:25:22.600
necessarily have a conscious answer for that, it's just an
1265
01:25:22.680 --> 01:25:26.479
inherent talent. It's an inherent interest that you have. And
1266
01:25:26.840 --> 01:25:29.239
these are the things that are constantly guiding us, and
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01:25:29.359 --> 01:25:32.520
they are oftentimes tied into the causal plane as the
1268
01:25:32.680 --> 01:25:36.239
purpose of our existence. And we all have this higher
1269
01:25:36.399 --> 01:25:39.279
aspect of us that if we're able to align our
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01:25:39.359 --> 01:25:43.720
bodies and our lower sulfur, our fixed sulfur is what
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01:25:43.840 --> 01:25:47.359
we call that together and animate all of these things
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01:25:47.399 --> 01:25:50.399
with our spiritual energy, our disciplines, our actions on the
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01:25:50.479 --> 01:25:53.199
day to day, then we will be able to have
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01:25:53.479 --> 01:25:56.680
that effect that we were designed to be able to
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01:25:56.800 --> 01:26:01.159
have throughout the course of our lifetime. The fixed sulfur
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01:26:01.479 --> 01:26:04.239
is more of like the color of our skin, the
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01:26:04.359 --> 01:26:06.359
tone of our voice, the color of our hair and
1278
01:26:06.439 --> 01:26:09.479
our eyes, the way that we dress, the way that
1279
01:26:09.560 --> 01:26:12.520
we come across, the types of words that we use
1280
01:26:12.640 --> 01:26:16.800
to express ourselves. See these that are not necessarily physical things,
1281
01:26:17.399 --> 01:26:21.000
but they can be physical things. They're tied into our physicality,
1282
01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:25.359
but they shape how people perceive us, how we perceive ourself,
1283
01:26:25.479 --> 01:26:28.199
and how we express ourself. And for the most part,
1284
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these things are largely conscious. And so we have these
1285
01:26:32.520 --> 01:26:36.319
two different aspects of our soul that are constantly dynamically
1286
01:26:36.520 --> 01:26:40.640
at play, and our emotions. The way that we express
1287
01:26:40.680 --> 01:26:42.520
our emotions and things like that. All of that is
1288
01:26:42.600 --> 01:26:46.479
kind of part of the soul resonance of a species.
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01:26:47.439 --> 01:26:50.760
When we take a look at vegetable materials, we see
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01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:53.039
that same thing, but just in a way that is
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01:26:53.239 --> 01:26:57.600
not as relatable from the human experience as it is
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01:26:57.680 --> 01:27:00.399
when we look at animals. Animals and humans share a
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01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:03.159
lot of similarities in those ways. If we're hungry and
1294
01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:05.880
people get in the way between us and our food,
1295
01:27:06.199 --> 01:27:08.279
we might get angry, right, we might get pissed, we
1296
01:27:08.359 --> 01:27:11.560
might attack like that's a very animalistic type of behavior
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01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:14.720
that carries over into the human realm. With plants, they
1298
01:27:14.800 --> 01:27:17.640
look at things a whole lot differently, especially with trees.
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01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:20.840
They're all about the sharing of resources and the benefit
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01:27:21.039 --> 01:27:24.239
of the entirety of the plant kingdom as a whole
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01:27:24.680 --> 01:27:27.760
that are living there, and they work so symbiotically with
1302
01:27:28.039 --> 01:27:31.199
fungi and bacteria and archaea and these other different forms
1303
01:27:31.239 --> 01:27:35.520
of microbiological life forms that they're much more universally tied in.
1304
01:27:35.760 --> 01:27:37.960
We could argue that they have a greater deal of
1305
01:27:38.159 --> 01:27:41.119
spirit within them as a result of that. And of course,
1306
01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:45.600
as you know, they're taking our exhalations of carbon dioxide
1307
01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:49.039
and carbon based things, and they're constantly breathing that in
1308
01:27:49.159 --> 01:27:53.039
and transforming it back into oxygen. They're literally spiriting the
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01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:57.680
entire earth for us. Trees are, and so with trees especially,
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01:27:57.840 --> 01:28:01.760
we can see that they have very particular signatures in
1311
01:28:01.840 --> 01:28:06.479
their fixed sulfur, Like what differentiates an oak tree from
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01:28:06.520 --> 01:28:08.840
a hawthorn tree, Like, well, we can look at the bark,
1313
01:28:08.960 --> 01:28:11.159
we can look at the leaves and their shape, we
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01:28:11.239 --> 01:28:13.600
can look at how tall they grow, what types of
1315
01:28:13.680 --> 01:28:15.840
fruits that they might bear, so on and so forth,
1316
01:28:15.920 --> 01:28:18.800
and there are clearly differences there. So they too have
1317
01:28:18.880 --> 01:28:22.479
a fixed sulfur, and they also have a volatile sulfur,
1318
01:28:22.520 --> 01:28:25.159
which is to say, like a purpose for their existence,
1319
01:28:25.199 --> 01:28:28.640
and their purpose is totally different too. An oak tree
1320
01:28:29.039 --> 01:28:32.159
is meant to be the pinnacle of the expression of
1321
01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:39.079
healthy forests. Old and advanced forested lands will eventually be oaks.
1322
01:28:39.279 --> 01:28:42.560
Primarily they'll be oak, they'll be maple, they'll be hard woods.
1323
01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:46.520
Younger forests are going to have much softer wood trees
1324
01:28:46.680 --> 01:28:48.399
that are not so much at the pinnacle, but they're
1325
01:28:48.399 --> 01:28:51.920
still very important. But they're like evergreen trees like pines
1326
01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:55.119
and cedars and junipers and things like that. And so
1327
01:28:55.479 --> 01:28:57.760
you can see that there is an evolution of the
1328
01:28:58.039 --> 01:29:03.239
entire ecology from a forestry type of perspective, and as
1329
01:29:03.479 --> 01:29:06.520
that whole land mass, that whole forested area kind of
1330
01:29:06.560 --> 01:29:10.000
goes through its evolutions, eventually its crowning aspect will be
1331
01:29:10.079 --> 01:29:13.840
the oaks. And oaks are amazing because they actually attract
1332
01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:18.000
lightning to them, and they utilize that lightning that strikes them,
1333
01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:21.600
they don't get too terribly damaged. They're able to put
1334
01:29:21.680 --> 01:29:24.800
all of that electricity into the ground in order to
1335
01:29:24.840 --> 01:29:28.399
be able to animate the ground and to provide nitrogen
1336
01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:32.279
and healthy effects. And then from there they utilize our
1337
01:29:32.319 --> 01:29:34.520
friends the fungi to be able to spread that through
1338
01:29:34.800 --> 01:29:38.800
entire forested networks and areas of ecology that are surrounding
1339
01:29:38.840 --> 01:29:43.039
as well. So you know the plants that definitely have this.
1340
01:29:43.159 --> 01:29:45.319
And when we take a look at like the difference
1341
01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:48.279
between say even members of the same family like lemon
1342
01:29:48.399 --> 01:29:53.239
balm and say spearmint, they taste different, they might look different,
1343
01:29:53.359 --> 01:29:57.439
they have some certain characteristic similarities, but they have entirely
1344
01:29:57.560 --> 01:30:02.279
different healing properties to them as well. And so their personalities,
1345
01:30:02.359 --> 01:30:06.640
their talents, their interests are different, and their interests are
1346
01:30:06.680 --> 01:30:09.039
different based on the areas that they grow in, what
1347
01:30:09.199 --> 01:30:11.800
they want to grow in, and what the prime conditions
1348
01:30:11.800 --> 01:30:15.239
for their growth are, and their interests. Their talents are
1349
01:30:15.680 --> 01:30:18.359
also different in like the way that they smell, and
1350
01:30:18.560 --> 01:30:21.079
how they interact. You know, part of the reason there's
1351
01:30:21.079 --> 01:30:24.439
all this research these days, Chris about you know, if
1352
01:30:24.479 --> 01:30:26.680
you go out into the forest, you're less likely to
1353
01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:29.520
be depressed because the forest has all of these chemicals
1354
01:30:29.560 --> 01:30:31.560
that are working on you. Well, part of that actually
1355
01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:36.039
is the volatile aromatic compounds, you know, essential oils or
1356
01:30:36.119 --> 01:30:38.439
terpenes however you want to call that, and other VOCs
1357
01:30:38.920 --> 01:30:44.800
that are vacs that are evaporating constantly from the plants
1358
01:30:44.960 --> 01:30:50.079
just by ambiental heat and humidity, and they are entering
1359
01:30:50.239 --> 01:30:54.319
into the atmosphere. Now we are smelling those and identifying
1360
01:30:54.439 --> 01:30:58.199
them chemically, but they are to the plants, those are
1361
01:30:58.239 --> 01:31:01.239
their hormones and their pheromone, and they are using those
1362
01:31:01.359 --> 01:31:05.600
to connect with other plants and other things in that network.
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01:31:05.920 --> 01:31:09.039
And when we interface with those things, they actually we
1364
01:31:09.199 --> 01:31:11.479
breathe them in, they get into our bloodstream, and then
1365
01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:16.079
they actually change us. They change our entire psychological and
1366
01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:20.920
physiological composition. Essential oils, there's a lot of research showing
1367
01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:23.920
how they impact the limbic brain, which ties us into
1368
01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:27.000
our memories and our traumas and lots of other things
1369
01:31:27.119 --> 01:31:31.680
like that. So the plants definitely have their own expressions,
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01:31:31.760 --> 01:31:35.039
and so do minerals. Minerals are even more dense than
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01:31:35.199 --> 01:31:38.479
plants are. But they also have their own spirits and
1372
01:31:38.600 --> 01:31:42.640
they have their own purposes, like, for instance, gold has
1373
01:31:42.840 --> 01:31:46.319
an untarnishable capacity to it, like you can soak it
1374
01:31:46.399 --> 01:31:48.119
in water for as long as you want, you can
1375
01:31:48.159 --> 01:31:51.399
put it into most solvents. Even there's only a few
1376
01:31:51.439 --> 01:31:53.680
solvents that will actually dissolve gold, one of those being
1377
01:31:53.800 --> 01:31:58.199
metallic mercury, another one being called aqua regia. There's not
1378
01:31:58.319 --> 01:32:02.239
many others. There is also like antimony, pentachloride, and a
1379
01:32:02.319 --> 01:32:04.760
couple of others that are created that can dissolve gold,
1380
01:32:05.119 --> 01:32:07.840
but there's not that many of them. And then you
1381
01:32:07.920 --> 01:32:10.439
know silver, on the other hand, which is also a
1382
01:32:10.520 --> 01:32:12.960
beautiful and noble metal, when we stick that out in
1383
01:32:13.079 --> 01:32:15.600
the rain or expose it to oxygen, it starts to
1384
01:32:15.680 --> 01:32:20.760
tarnish and it changes. So they also have particular talents
1385
01:32:20.920 --> 01:32:24.239
where they can be used and places where maybe they're
1386
01:32:24.319 --> 01:32:27.520
not so great to be used. And they also have
1387
01:32:27.760 --> 01:32:31.680
specific interests like where they grow and under what geological
1388
01:32:31.760 --> 01:32:35.640
conditions they're going to grow, and whether they're going to
1389
01:32:35.720 --> 01:32:39.319
make veins of something or whether they're going to crystallize
1390
01:32:39.359 --> 01:32:43.680
with another type of formation, Like you'll oftentimes find lead
1391
01:32:43.920 --> 01:32:47.239
and quartz and gold all in the same types of
1392
01:32:47.319 --> 01:32:50.960
areas because they like the same types of conditions. And
1393
01:32:51.319 --> 01:32:54.039
you know that lead is very heavy and it can
1394
01:32:54.239 --> 01:32:57.000
just be melted with a basic lighter or a candle heat.
1395
01:32:57.840 --> 01:32:59.479
You don't need a whole lot to be able to
1396
01:32:59.560 --> 01:33:04.359
refine let, whereas gold definitely requires a lot more skill
1397
01:33:04.680 --> 01:33:10.359
and higher temperature capacity and better smelting technologies than say
1398
01:33:10.439 --> 01:33:14.359
lead or mercury or tin might. So they definitely have
1399
01:33:14.439 --> 01:33:16.479
their own talents and their own interests. We just have
1400
01:33:16.640 --> 01:33:20.199
to be able to see and perceive that from the
1401
01:33:20.279 --> 01:33:23.920
perspective of the material itself as we can observe it
1402
01:33:24.199 --> 01:33:25.479
from our state of humanity.
1403
01:33:26.199 --> 01:33:30.079
Right on, I think there's a great segue into alchemiculture
1404
01:33:30.399 --> 01:33:32.399
and what this is tell us all about this.
1405
01:33:33.560 --> 01:33:40.199
Yeah, so alchemic culture is basically taking the universal concepts
1406
01:33:40.720 --> 01:33:44.520
of alchemy and being able to apply it to human civilization,
1407
01:33:44.840 --> 01:33:49.560
human culture, and creating a culture of alchemists. So alchemic
1408
01:33:49.600 --> 01:33:54.760
culture and the idea was really for me. It started
1409
01:33:54.800 --> 01:33:59.399
off agriculturally, because when we take a look at say
1410
01:33:59.439 --> 01:34:03.399
permaculture principles, we can see that permaculture isn't just an
1411
01:34:03.479 --> 01:34:07.520
agricultural philosophy. It's something that is more of a philosophy
1412
01:34:07.600 --> 01:34:11.279
that can be applied to a wide scope of human
1413
01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:14.720
interactions where we're creating closed loop systems. If I had
1414
01:34:14.760 --> 01:34:18.199
to like really summarize what permaculture is, it would be
1415
01:34:18.319 --> 01:34:23.000
like creating closed loop systems so that cause and effect
1416
01:34:23.159 --> 01:34:27.399
or supply and demand are all innertied into the production
1417
01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:31.760
of what we're doing from just about any angle, whether
1418
01:34:31.880 --> 01:34:35.399
that's you know, I need this type of material for
1419
01:34:35.560 --> 01:34:40.000
my garden, say some sort of fertilizer. Well, where do
1420
01:34:40.039 --> 01:34:42.399
you get that fertilizer. Well, if it can grow in plants,
1421
01:34:42.439 --> 01:34:45.479
and plants can bioaccumulate the material that you need, then
1422
01:34:45.560 --> 01:34:48.640
you can grow that on your own land. And now
1423
01:34:49.039 --> 01:34:52.399
that material that you have can be grown as part
1424
01:34:52.439 --> 01:34:54.880
of the solution to what you actually need. And so
1425
01:34:55.039 --> 01:34:59.399
you're closing the loop. You're stopping the necessity to import
1426
01:34:59.439 --> 01:35:03.600
another materi from another location. And long before permaculture was
1427
01:35:03.680 --> 01:35:06.800
ever a phrase or a thing, Rudolph Steiner, in his
1428
01:35:06.920 --> 01:35:11.520
Agricultural Lessons, wrote a lot about this, and that has
1429
01:35:11.640 --> 01:35:14.159
kind of come to be known as biodynamics and so
1430
01:35:14.680 --> 01:35:18.960
my interest in agriculture started with biodynamics, and then eventually,
1431
01:35:19.119 --> 01:35:21.800
you know, I became savvy into permaculture, and so all
1432
01:35:21.840 --> 01:35:24.880
of these things were truths that I was seeing play
1433
01:35:24.960 --> 01:35:28.720
out inside of my agricultural space. And that's kind of
1434
01:35:28.800 --> 01:35:31.560
where the concept was is, Oh, what if I utilize
1435
01:35:32.039 --> 01:35:37.359
alchemy to be able to exalt the types of fertilizers
1436
01:35:37.399 --> 01:35:39.439
that I'm making that I'm growing on my own land,
1437
01:35:39.600 --> 01:35:43.319
Or what if I utilize alchemical principles to actually grow
1438
01:35:44.560 --> 01:35:46.239
my garden and to take care of it, like at
1439
01:35:46.239 --> 01:35:48.960
the end of every season, instead of just allowing everything
1440
01:35:49.039 --> 01:35:51.880
to decompose, what if I selectively take the things like
1441
01:35:52.399 --> 01:35:55.479
the great branches, for instance, that are much more woody
1442
01:35:55.560 --> 01:35:59.159
and take a long time to decompose, or you know,
1443
01:35:59.279 --> 01:36:01.239
some of the trees that I have to compass, like
1444
01:36:01.359 --> 01:36:04.800
a Chinese elm for instance, which is considered an invasive thing.
1445
01:36:05.159 --> 01:36:07.199
Those have a ton of cellulose and a ton of
1446
01:36:07.279 --> 01:36:11.359
fiber and things that don't decompose so terribly easily inside
1447
01:36:11.399 --> 01:36:14.439
of the soil. So what if I take those and
1448
01:36:14.560 --> 01:36:18.359
instead of applying the process of fermentation and allowing them
1449
01:36:18.520 --> 01:36:22.159
to break down by anaerobic microbes inside of the soil.
1450
01:36:22.239 --> 01:36:24.479
What if I take those in a calcine those instead
1451
01:36:24.960 --> 01:36:29.319
and get their ash and distribute a liquid. Take that
1452
01:36:29.439 --> 01:36:33.239
ash and utilize the alchemical process, like be able to
1453
01:36:33.359 --> 01:36:36.119
dissolve that ash inside of water and to purify that
1454
01:36:36.239 --> 01:36:39.720
ash and get the potassium minerals that are locked up
1455
01:36:39.800 --> 01:36:43.920
inside of there as pure form and homeopathically disperse that
1456
01:36:44.119 --> 01:36:48.600
over the entire garden area. What happens to the overall
1457
01:36:48.640 --> 01:36:50.720
ecology as I do that? And what I started to
1458
01:36:50.840 --> 01:36:54.800
notice a season after season was that my ecological conditions
1459
01:36:55.039 --> 01:36:58.359
in that garden space were changing. What I was capable
1460
01:36:58.399 --> 01:37:03.680
of growing started to and this would create little microclimates
1461
01:37:04.239 --> 01:37:07.920
within the garden itself, like micro micro climates where suddenly
1462
01:37:08.039 --> 01:37:10.680
I was able to, in the hot deserts of Utah,
1463
01:37:11.399 --> 01:37:14.159
be able to grow watermelons in certain areas of my
1464
01:37:15.039 --> 01:37:20.600
garden effortlessly because the conditions for that particular growth and
1465
01:37:20.680 --> 01:37:24.960
expression of plant consciousness was ideally prime. I had transformed
1466
01:37:24.960 --> 01:37:28.279
the soil from wanting to grow natural sagebrush and say,
1467
01:37:28.359 --> 01:37:30.880
desert yarrow and you know all these other things, to
1468
01:37:31.640 --> 01:37:35.680
now being able to grow plants that would thrive in places,
1469
01:37:35.760 --> 01:37:40.600
say like Georgia or Louisiana or Florida, Right, So it
1470
01:37:40.760 --> 01:37:43.760
was just an evolution. That's kind of where the inspiration
1471
01:37:43.920 --> 01:37:47.319
came from. And as I continued to apply that to
1472
01:37:47.439 --> 01:37:50.039
other systems, I was taking a look at our sociology
1473
01:37:50.359 --> 01:37:54.439
and I remember that, you know, there were a ton
1474
01:37:54.560 --> 01:37:58.720
of revolts in Egypt back roughly two thousand and eight,
1475
01:37:58.760 --> 01:38:01.560
two thousand and nine type of timeframe, and they were
1476
01:38:01.600 --> 01:38:03.960
starting things on fire, and there was all this revolt
1477
01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:06.760
and I was like, ah, Anger, like this, this relates
1478
01:38:06.840 --> 01:38:10.119
to the process of calcination. It's like being angry about
1479
01:38:10.159 --> 01:38:12.560
something to the point where you're so fed up that
1480
01:38:12.840 --> 01:38:16.279
you have no other way to deal with the material
1481
01:38:16.399 --> 01:38:21.640
besides instilling or creating a crisis. And when you create crisis,
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01:38:21.880 --> 01:38:25.239
crisis ultimately leads the material to some sort of change.
1483
01:38:25.399 --> 01:38:27.640
And if you know how to guide it properly without
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01:38:27.720 --> 01:38:31.279
chemical principles, you can guide it to an exalted form
1485
01:38:31.520 --> 01:38:35.880
of whatever you know x material was that caused the
1486
01:38:35.920 --> 01:38:39.640
crisis in the first place, or you can transform it
1487
01:38:39.920 --> 01:38:42.640
entirely by having it now operate on a whole new
1488
01:38:42.760 --> 01:38:46.800
octave and leaving the technology, the ideas, the philosophies, whatever
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01:38:46.880 --> 01:38:48.920
it was that instilled that crisis in the first place,
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01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:53.680
behind and operating on a whole new framework of mental
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01:38:53.800 --> 01:38:57.760
capacity and of philosophy around something. And so I started
1492
01:38:57.800 --> 01:38:59.960
taking a look at this and applying it to philosophy
1493
01:39:00.920 --> 01:39:04.800
and to human civilization, realizing like, wow, this is a really,
1494
01:39:04.920 --> 01:39:07.880
really potent concept. And over time I kind of started
1495
01:39:07.960 --> 01:39:13.159
creating principles of the major seven areas of humanity that
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01:39:13.600 --> 01:39:17.920
we can transform if we apply all chemical principles to
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01:39:18.039 --> 01:39:21.359
it and consciously instill a crisis, not the way that
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01:39:22.880 --> 01:39:26.520
you know, like create the crisis and manufacture the solution.
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01:39:26.720 --> 01:39:28.760
That's not what I'm talking about that is used for
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01:39:30.039 --> 01:39:36.399
deliberate control of rather uninformed mask but instead on a
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01:39:36.560 --> 01:39:41.159
personal level, and that resonates up to the sociological you know,
1502
01:39:41.239 --> 01:39:44.279
It's like, on your personal level you change things. Other
1503
01:39:44.319 --> 01:39:47.680
people are naturally going to observe what you have been
1504
01:39:47.720 --> 01:39:49.840
able to change, what you've done for yourself. They're gonna
1505
01:39:49.840 --> 01:39:52.039
want a piece of that. They'll ultimately ask you, like,
1506
01:39:52.079 --> 01:39:54.319
what are you doing that helped you do that? You
1507
01:39:54.439 --> 01:39:57.319
become an inspiration not because you're seeking to be one,
1508
01:39:57.439 --> 01:40:01.199
just because what you did itself speaks for itself, and
1509
01:40:01.840 --> 01:40:05.760
that inspires your neighborhood or your family or whatever else
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01:40:05.880 --> 01:40:08.640
to want to do a similar thing. And so this
1511
01:40:08.840 --> 01:40:12.439
transformational effect is almost kind of contagious. And if we
1512
01:40:12.600 --> 01:40:15.760
start on personal level and fix these aspects of ourselves,
1513
01:40:15.880 --> 01:40:18.640
namely our traumas that are holding us back and keeping
1514
01:40:18.720 --> 01:40:21.439
us in lower you know, I hate to sound too
1515
01:40:22.319 --> 01:40:26.520
metaphysically cliche these days, but holding us into lower vibrational
1516
01:40:26.560 --> 01:40:32.079
states of consciousness, then it creates this cascade effect to
1517
01:40:32.359 --> 01:40:36.039
our external surroundings. And once our personal lot, our personal
1518
01:40:36.119 --> 01:40:40.159
traumas are kind of dealt with, then we all have
1519
01:40:40.319 --> 01:40:43.279
a whole lot more energy and effort to think about
1520
01:40:43.560 --> 01:40:46.840
the next step of our humanity, which is is my
1521
01:40:46.960 --> 01:40:49.800
community well taken care of? And what is my role
1522
01:40:49.880 --> 01:40:52.479
inside of my community? You know, we're not just struggling
1523
01:40:52.600 --> 01:40:55.159
to get by day by day. We have the energy
1524
01:40:55.239 --> 01:40:59.039
to think about larger and more complex things. And once
1525
01:40:59.079 --> 01:41:01.399
we handle that, then it's like, oh, my community is
1526
01:41:01.560 --> 01:41:04.039
really well taken care of. How do I think about
1527
01:41:04.199 --> 01:41:07.000
my district level, how do I think about my you know,
1528
01:41:07.199 --> 01:41:09.399
state level, how do I think about my country level,
1529
01:41:09.479 --> 01:41:14.199
my continent level, my you know, hemispheric level, my global level, whatever.
1530
01:41:14.840 --> 01:41:19.079
And so we're able to constantly move forward. But it
1531
01:41:19.119 --> 01:41:21.920
all starts with that kind of personal change. And so
1532
01:41:22.279 --> 01:41:26.159
the aspects of our thinking and our rationale and our
1533
01:41:26.279 --> 01:41:31.760
traumas that prevent those larger pictures from being even thought
1534
01:41:31.800 --> 01:41:36.439
about or philosophized about or worked with in any real
1535
01:41:36.520 --> 01:41:39.960
and tangible way, they start on that personal level. And
1536
01:41:40.119 --> 01:41:43.880
if we can utilize alchemy to be able to transform
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01:41:44.159 --> 01:41:47.600
or at least exalt our potential, then we have an
1538
01:41:47.640 --> 01:41:50.840
amazing opportunity in front of us. And so that's kind
1539
01:41:50.840 --> 01:41:56.000
of my contribution to how I would like to influence
1540
01:41:56.079 --> 01:41:58.039
the world or change the world, or you know, my
1541
01:41:58.560 --> 01:42:00.399
own solution to it. I suppose.
1542
01:42:01.000 --> 01:42:03.800
Well, I would love to hear those seven methods that
1543
01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:06.399
you were briefly discussing a minute ago.
1544
01:42:08.279 --> 01:42:12.600
Yeah, so I don't have them all right off the
1545
01:42:12.680 --> 01:42:14.760
top of my head. Let me just try and pull
1546
01:42:14.840 --> 01:42:21.520
up my website and see what all we have here. Okay,
1547
01:42:21.760 --> 01:42:24.800
here they are. So the seven core aspects of humanity
1548
01:42:25.399 --> 01:42:29.079
that I've drafted out. The first one and possibly the
1549
01:42:29.119 --> 01:42:32.840
most important one because it connects us into our spiritual selves.
1550
01:42:32.880 --> 01:42:36.399
Again at the top of our multi dimensional kind of
1551
01:42:36.600 --> 01:42:40.800
chain of command is human cosmology and philosophy. How do
1552
01:42:40.920 --> 01:42:44.920
we view and how do we philosophize about the world
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01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:47.600
around us and what our role in it is. And
1554
01:42:47.920 --> 01:42:51.600
you know, so many people for ages now, especially since
1555
01:42:51.600 --> 01:42:56.199
the advent of the Enlightenment period of European history, we're
1556
01:42:56.279 --> 01:42:59.159
always asking like, well, what is the purpose of humanity?
1557
01:43:00.880 --> 01:43:04.720
That's something that we can't really answer because that's an
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01:43:04.760 --> 01:43:08.479
individual thing. What is the purpose of each individual's life?
1559
01:43:09.720 --> 01:43:13.880
That again cannot effectively be answered. That has to be
1560
01:43:14.039 --> 01:43:17.239
subjectively answered by the individual, And so the individual has
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01:43:17.319 --> 01:43:22.640
to be able to identify what their life is, what
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01:43:23.039 --> 01:43:26.760
the purpose of their life really is, and that is
1563
01:43:27.199 --> 01:43:31.680
I think the most core aspect of change in thinking
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01:43:31.840 --> 01:43:34.720
that we could possibly wrap our minds around. And if
1565
01:43:34.800 --> 01:43:39.359
we are subscribing to self limiting beliefs, and oftentimes you know,
1566
01:43:39.520 --> 01:43:43.319
dare I say, religious beliefs that have been manufactured for us,
1567
01:43:44.159 --> 01:43:48.479
then we are limiting ourselves massively because a thought is
1568
01:43:48.680 --> 01:43:51.520
very very malleable. We can take thoughts and ideas and
1569
01:43:51.560 --> 01:43:56.039
they're malleable and they're subject to change with experience, right,
1570
01:43:56.199 --> 01:44:00.920
so you know, we're not locking something in. But if
1571
01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:02.920
I take a look at a table and I say, well,
1572
01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:06.239
that table is a turtle, and I believe that it's
1573
01:44:06.279 --> 01:44:08.960
a turtle because there's four legs to it and it
1574
01:44:09.039 --> 01:44:11.640
has a hard back, and turtles have four legs and
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01:44:11.760 --> 01:44:14.960
they have a hard back. I can force myself, based
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01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:18.520
on limited evidence and experience, to believe that that table
1577
01:44:18.760 --> 01:44:22.439
is a turtle. But if I just have an idea
1578
01:44:23.039 --> 01:44:26.159
about it, then I can keep exploring and I can
1579
01:44:26.279 --> 01:44:30.439
keep examining because there's no sense of emotional certainty about
1580
01:44:30.560 --> 01:44:32.840
what I know nothing about, which is really what a
1581
01:44:32.880 --> 01:44:36.079
belief is a sense of emotional certainty around something we
1582
01:44:36.279 --> 01:44:40.279
know very little about. So people might believe there is
1583
01:44:40.720 --> 01:44:43.760
a higher power, they might believe that there is an afterlife,
1584
01:44:43.840 --> 01:44:47.079
they might believe all these things. Now, whether that's true
1585
01:44:47.119 --> 01:44:49.600
or not is not the point. The concept is, if
1586
01:44:49.680 --> 01:44:52.600
you tie yourself into a belief, you're only allowed to
1587
01:44:52.720 --> 01:44:56.760
go so far with that belief before it shatters your
1588
01:44:56.880 --> 01:44:59.920
consciousness at a certain point, you know a certain point,
1589
01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:03.479
and if you break through your own beliefs, you're going
1590
01:45:03.560 --> 01:45:06.640
to have some sort of psychological split because you have
1591
01:45:06.880 --> 01:45:10.399
placed so much emotional certainty into that thing that you
1592
01:45:10.520 --> 01:45:14.319
knew very little about that once you have a different experience,
1593
01:45:14.560 --> 01:45:17.560
it has to like all of your emotions get questioned
1594
01:45:17.680 --> 01:45:22.560
and it can create some psychosis. Actually, but with thoughts
1595
01:45:22.600 --> 01:45:25.119
and ideas, we don't have that. The mental plane is
1596
01:45:25.279 --> 01:45:28.039
very very flexible that way that we can go up
1597
01:45:28.119 --> 01:45:30.079
to that thing that we thought was a turtle and
1598
01:45:30.159 --> 01:45:32.520
we can say, well, you know what, this doesn't actually
1599
01:45:32.640 --> 01:45:36.359
eat and it's not moving even slowly, so this is
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01:45:36.479 --> 01:45:39.479
probably not a turtle. And oh, actually it's made out
1601
01:45:39.479 --> 01:45:41.279
of wood or it's made out of metal, and you know,
1602
01:45:41.479 --> 01:45:43.359
all these other turtles are not made out of that.
1603
01:45:44.119 --> 01:45:47.680
And so we can have experiences that are constantly changing
1604
01:45:47.800 --> 01:45:53.119
and shaping our ideas and our thoughts around something without
1605
01:45:53.199 --> 01:45:56.119
having to place any emotional sense of certainty around it.
1606
01:45:56.560 --> 01:45:59.600
And so I've often been quoted as saying that beliefs
1607
01:45:59.640 --> 01:46:04.680
are really only good for the insane, because we can
1608
01:46:04.760 --> 01:46:06.600
have a lot of ideas about things and we don't
1609
01:46:06.680 --> 01:46:11.560
need to know that something is that particular way, especially
1610
01:46:11.600 --> 01:46:14.840
on limited series of data. The more data that we collect,
1611
01:46:15.119 --> 01:46:18.640
the better understanding about something that we will have. And
1612
01:46:19.279 --> 01:46:22.079
we have to remember that it's all about perspective, right.
1613
01:46:22.159 --> 01:46:25.520
We can only see things from our own perspective, from
1614
01:46:25.560 --> 01:46:29.319
our own limited sense of self experience, and so as
1615
01:46:29.399 --> 01:46:32.840
we listen to others about their data points, then we
1616
01:46:32.960 --> 01:46:37.319
can gain a more comprehensive view about something. And when
1617
01:46:37.399 --> 01:46:42.479
we take this into the human sociological context of our
1618
01:46:43.319 --> 01:46:47.399
philosophies and cosmologies, there have been so many beautiful philosophies
1619
01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:51.399
and so many beautiful cosmologies that have existed and continue
1620
01:46:51.439 --> 01:46:53.520
to exist in some that are being created in this
1621
01:46:53.680 --> 01:46:55.840
very moment, that if we look at all of these
1622
01:46:55.920 --> 01:46:59.079
and try and find the lowest common denominators between them,
1623
01:46:59.520 --> 01:47:02.479
then we can and say it stands to reason, based
1624
01:47:02.520 --> 01:47:05.760
on our experience at present, that these are the things
1625
01:47:05.920 --> 01:47:09.199
that are the most perennial to the human experience. Let
1626
01:47:09.279 --> 01:47:12.600
us focus on these things. We might have beliefs still,
1627
01:47:12.720 --> 01:47:16.399
if we want them, that's fine, but let us put
1628
01:47:16.479 --> 01:47:19.960
those in the background and focus on these core things
1629
01:47:20.079 --> 01:47:23.439
that are the most universal, the most perennial to our
1630
01:47:23.520 --> 01:47:27.560
human experience. And so that's where the application of alchemy
1631
01:47:28.079 --> 01:47:31.560
needs to be applied on a personal level to first
1632
01:47:31.760 --> 01:47:34.479
get through our beliefs. And the beliefs that are the
1633
01:47:34.520 --> 01:47:38.760
most hazardous are the self limiting beliefs, right, and those
1634
01:47:38.920 --> 01:47:42.640
form our cosmology and our philosophy as individuals massively. And
1635
01:47:42.720 --> 01:47:44.840
so if we can transform those. Then that gives us
1636
01:47:44.840 --> 01:47:46.760
an idea to look at. The next step is like,
1637
01:47:47.319 --> 01:47:51.800
what does my surrounding community mostly look at or believe
1638
01:47:51.920 --> 01:47:54.079
or whatever. And again, we can roast those and break
1639
01:47:54.119 --> 01:47:56.840
those down and transform all of those types of things,
1640
01:47:57.079 --> 01:47:59.600
and it just keeps going up. So that's the first one.
1641
01:48:00.479 --> 01:48:04.720
The next one that impacts us all is law and justice, right,
1642
01:48:05.159 --> 01:48:10.439
like what is law? There's all these courses that are
1643
01:48:10.479 --> 01:48:13.800
coming out that It's like, there's natural law, and natural
1644
01:48:13.920 --> 01:48:16.840
law does this, and they're basing it on a lot
1645
01:48:16.920 --> 01:48:19.920
of this is like tying back to hermetics, but not
1646
01:48:20.720 --> 01:48:24.279
sound hermetics. They're basing it on the Kabalion of all
1647
01:48:24.399 --> 01:48:27.920
things that could possibly be considered hermetic God. I hate
1648
01:48:27.960 --> 01:48:32.640
the Kabalion for this because it posted itself in the
1649
01:48:32.960 --> 01:48:36.680
in the nineteenth century and early twentieth century ocult revival.
1650
01:48:36.720 --> 01:48:40.840
It posted itself is like laws, you know, hermetic laws.
1651
01:48:40.920 --> 01:48:44.079
There's no such thing as hermetic laws like that, like
1652
01:48:44.279 --> 01:48:47.800
the law of gender is not an actual law. There
1653
01:48:47.800 --> 01:48:50.399
are lots of things that do not have gender. There
1654
01:48:50.439 --> 01:48:54.399
are lots of things in existence that aren't just human
1655
01:48:54.520 --> 01:48:57.479
that don't abide by those laws, So those can't be laws.
1656
01:48:57.680 --> 01:49:01.920
Laws objectively speaking, or things that are universal and perennial
1657
01:49:02.039 --> 01:49:07.000
to all forms of creation. And so when we are
1658
01:49:07.079 --> 01:49:10.279
taking a look at human laws, we have to realize
1659
01:49:10.399 --> 01:49:13.520
that if we were only to follow the laws that
1660
01:49:13.720 --> 01:49:17.199
apply to all of creation, that's not enough for our
1661
01:49:17.279 --> 01:49:21.359
sociological or individual needs, because there needs to be some
1662
01:49:21.640 --> 01:49:28.680
form of subjective protection for people who are, say, at
1663
01:49:28.880 --> 01:49:32.920
risk of being violated in one way or the other.
1664
01:49:33.199 --> 01:49:39.039
And violation is part of what happens in nature, right,
1665
01:49:39.279 --> 01:49:41.600
Like do you think the gazelle just asks to be
1666
01:49:41.760 --> 01:49:44.279
taken down by the lion? Like, it's not like that.
1667
01:49:44.800 --> 01:49:48.079
There's a certain thing that says if you're weak, if
1668
01:49:48.119 --> 01:49:54.520
you're young, if you are less physiologically adapt than the predator,
1669
01:49:54.600 --> 01:49:58.399
then the predator will be able to devour you. That
1670
01:49:58.680 --> 01:50:00.680
is a lot. But do we demand that everybody in
1671
01:50:00.760 --> 01:50:03.319
our human society is just so strong that they can't
1672
01:50:03.399 --> 01:50:06.039
be subject to predators? I mean, that's an ideal, but
1673
01:50:06.920 --> 01:50:10.199
is that realistic? My answer for that is no, it's not.
1674
01:50:10.399 --> 01:50:13.960
So we do have to be able to subjectively create laws,
1675
01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:16.479
and that's a whole purpose for the invention of laws
1676
01:50:16.640 --> 01:50:19.079
at its root. Now, that's not saying all of the
1677
01:50:19.159 --> 01:50:22.319
adulterations that have happened with law as a result, because
1678
01:50:22.319 --> 01:50:27.880
those are adulterations of the legal system. But law is
1679
01:50:28.079 --> 01:50:33.439
very important and justice, justice as a perennial virtue to humanity,
1680
01:50:33.720 --> 01:50:37.359
is very important, and justice needs to be balanced, just
1681
01:50:37.520 --> 01:50:39.840
like it is in Cabalah and the Tree of life.
1682
01:50:40.159 --> 01:50:45.439
It's balanced between mercy on one hand and severity on
1683
01:50:45.520 --> 01:50:49.880
the other hand. And too much severity without mercy is cruelty,
1684
01:50:50.399 --> 01:50:54.439
and too much mercy without severity is weakness. And somewhere
1685
01:50:54.479 --> 01:50:57.840
between there exists the sense of justice. And this is
1686
01:50:57.880 --> 01:51:02.079
where the concept of the punishment fit the crime really
1687
01:51:02.199 --> 01:51:06.359
needs to be taken deeply into consideration. But I think
1688
01:51:06.560 --> 01:51:08.880
you know, there was an idea and I learned this.
1689
01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:11.039
I don't know how our legal system got so far away,
1690
01:51:11.119 --> 01:51:16.039
but I learned that very from very young age, that
1691
01:51:16.479 --> 01:51:22.079
our rights as individuals end when we and our actions,
1692
01:51:22.119 --> 01:51:25.680
our thoughts, our behaviors, et cetera, impose upon the rights
1693
01:51:26.159 --> 01:51:30.399
of other individuals. And if we could get back to
1694
01:51:30.520 --> 01:51:33.680
this kind of perennial basis, then we would be able
1695
01:51:33.720 --> 01:51:37.399
to sort out a lot of legal things and law
1696
01:51:37.520 --> 01:51:41.840
based things pretty easily and pretty well inside of our humanity.
1697
01:51:41.880 --> 01:51:43.239
I think yeah.
1698
01:51:43.399 --> 01:51:47.159
So yeah, anyway, that's that's the second thing.
1699
01:51:47.800 --> 01:51:51.319
I think this is brilliant, And I'm so glad that
1700
01:51:51.399 --> 01:51:55.680
you really put time and effort into constructing these thoughts
1701
01:51:55.840 --> 01:51:59.800
and putting them out there, because you're right, we've absolutely
1702
01:52:00.119 --> 01:52:03.359
last sight of how our society is supposed to work
1703
01:52:03.399 --> 01:52:05.920
on so many different levels, especially when it comes to
1704
01:52:06.319 --> 01:52:09.680
law and justice, like you were just saying, and those
1705
01:52:09.800 --> 01:52:13.399
concepts make too much sense, and it'd be it'd be
1706
01:52:13.560 --> 01:52:16.760
ridiculous not to to to take a deeper look into
1707
01:52:16.840 --> 01:52:21.039
some of these things, because it seems like that our
1708
01:52:21.199 --> 01:52:27.279
ancient ancestors probably had a great grasp on how these
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01:52:27.359 --> 01:52:32.399
things worked and were able to utilize them in harmony
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01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:36.479
with not only the way their societies were, but with
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01:52:37.479 --> 01:52:41.920
the way that they interacted with nature and everything around them.
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01:52:42.039 --> 01:52:44.319
So I love what you I love what we're getting into.
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01:52:44.439 --> 01:52:45.960
And let's let's hear the rest of them.
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01:52:46.720 --> 01:52:50.159
Okay, cool, Yeah, And you're right, and I think, especially
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01:52:50.199 --> 01:52:55.039
as it pertains to law and justice, part of what
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01:52:55.560 --> 01:52:59.159
worked for our ancient ancestors was because they didn't have
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01:52:59.399 --> 01:53:03.319
conglomerate empires like we have had since the time of
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01:53:03.399 --> 01:53:07.680
Persia and Rome. And you know, ancient Greece and things
1719
01:53:07.800 --> 01:53:10.640
like that. They weren't trying to rule huge land masses.
1720
01:53:10.760 --> 01:53:12.920
Especially when we take a look at like Native American
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01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:16.079
tribes or Native People's, indigenous peoples just about anywhere in
1722
01:53:16.119 --> 01:53:19.399
the world. It's on a tribal level, and so they
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01:53:19.520 --> 01:53:22.960
have their personological things down enough within the context of
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01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:26.000
their society, and their society is small enough that they
1725
01:53:26.039 --> 01:53:28.720
can realize, like everything actually works for us if we
1726
01:53:28.840 --> 01:53:31.800
do this, and if we violate these things, then our
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01:53:31.880 --> 01:53:35.119
society doesn't work. And when we try to impose that
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01:53:35.239 --> 01:53:40.000
upon such a huge land mass and millions billions of people,
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01:53:41.039 --> 01:53:44.920
that can't work because we are all so different as individuals.
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01:53:45.039 --> 01:53:47.399
We have to be able to find what the context
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01:53:47.560 --> 01:53:52.359
is for our own working and so creating micro government,
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01:53:52.760 --> 01:53:57.119
micro sectors of you know, districts however you want to
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01:53:57.159 --> 01:54:02.000
call it, of humanity right now and decentralizing is, as
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01:54:02.039 --> 01:54:05.560
far as I can tell, the only solution that nature
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01:54:05.720 --> 01:54:09.079
and our own humanity in our history gives us to
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01:54:10.359 --> 01:54:13.960
being able to find good solutions. We can't create broad
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01:54:14.039 --> 01:54:17.600
solutions for everybody because that just doesn't work. Okay, So
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01:54:17.680 --> 01:54:22.560
the next point economics and currency. We say, oh, if
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01:54:22.640 --> 01:54:26.039
everybody just traded. That would be great, Like we could
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01:54:26.159 --> 01:54:28.399
just barter. But you know, let's say that I'm the
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01:54:28.479 --> 01:54:32.439
cobbler and you're the farmer, and you're producing food for
1742
01:54:32.640 --> 01:54:35.079
me all year long, and I'm just producing shoes for
1743
01:54:35.159 --> 01:54:38.000
you two to three times a year. Is that fair?
1744
01:54:39.119 --> 01:54:42.039
It's really hard to say. To me, I would say, well,
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01:54:42.119 --> 01:54:44.000
as a farmer, I'm putting in a whole lot more
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01:54:44.079 --> 01:54:48.399
work than what you're doing as a cobbler, But I
1747
01:54:48.520 --> 01:54:50.680
need to do this. So the concept of barter and
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01:54:50.800 --> 01:54:54.159
trade doesn't always work one hundred percent, but it's a
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01:54:54.279 --> 01:55:00.520
big part of a larger and more holistic spectrum of
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01:55:00.720 --> 01:55:04.199
economics that can be incorporated. But we can't just rely
1751
01:55:04.359 --> 01:55:06.479
on it. And so you know, when people try and
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01:55:06.600 --> 01:55:10.560
oversimplify the economic system or how currencies work, or even
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01:55:10.640 --> 01:55:16.760
why currencies exist, they fall short ninety percent of the
1754
01:55:16.800 --> 01:55:19.880
time in my opinion of what the perennial principles are,
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01:55:20.000 --> 01:55:23.479
and the perennial principles are to be able to amass resources,
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01:55:23.520 --> 01:55:26.039
to be able to afford the things that you need
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01:55:26.479 --> 01:55:30.439
for your survival, your family survival, your community survival, your
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01:55:30.640 --> 01:55:35.039
government survival, et cetera. However, big that goes up on
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01:55:35.159 --> 01:55:38.800
the evolutionary scale. We need to be able to think
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01:55:38.840 --> 01:55:43.079
about the perennial basis of currency because we have based
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01:55:43.119 --> 01:55:46.039
it on gold. And you know, people can disagree with
1762
01:55:46.159 --> 01:55:49.279
me on this, and sometimes I disagree with myself on this.
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01:55:49.880 --> 01:55:52.079
I don't have a belief around it, but I find
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01:55:52.119 --> 01:55:56.359
it very interesting that, you know, we have these early
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01:55:56.479 --> 01:56:02.960
Mesopotamian concepts of on Unaki or these watchers that had eventually,
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01:56:03.319 --> 01:56:07.359
you know, kind of enslaved humanity for the purpose of
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01:56:07.439 --> 01:56:10.239
mining gold so that they could create an artificial atmosphere
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01:56:10.319 --> 01:56:13.600
for their own planet. Now, whether that has any substantial
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01:56:13.680 --> 01:56:16.199
basis in truth or not is not my point. It's
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01:56:16.319 --> 01:56:20.560
that that story and that mythos is very important and
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01:56:20.640 --> 01:56:23.439
it still lives very deeply inside of the subconscious of
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01:56:23.520 --> 01:56:26.720
humans today. Like we talk about most of the economists
1773
01:56:26.760 --> 01:56:29.880
that I know, alternative economists are like, well, let's back
1774
01:56:29.960 --> 01:56:32.479
things up with gold. Now I know what to do
1775
01:56:32.600 --> 01:56:35.960
with gold. Gold and gold making is good for making
1776
01:56:36.079 --> 01:56:38.720
medicine that is able to heal the soul and get
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01:56:38.840 --> 01:56:43.560
rid of our sense of corruptibility within the human paradigm.
1778
01:56:44.000 --> 01:56:46.279
We can also get rid of many different cancers with
1779
01:56:46.880 --> 01:56:50.840
say a rum botobile, which is the potable gold or
1780
01:56:50.920 --> 01:56:54.920
drinkable gold. We can also make several different forms of
1781
01:56:54.960 --> 01:56:58.279
medicine that can work on soul, spirit and body with gold.
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01:56:58.560 --> 01:57:00.319
Aside from that, people don't know what to do with
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01:57:00.439 --> 01:57:04.199
gold besides, you know, make jewelry or you know, something else.
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01:57:04.279 --> 01:57:08.560
And that ornament is really just a sign of status
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01:57:08.720 --> 01:57:12.960
within society and it's meaningless. It is so meaningless. So
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01:57:13.720 --> 01:57:16.199
why would we back something up with gold? Something that
1787
01:57:16.359 --> 01:57:18.840
is heavy, something that takes up a lot of space
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01:57:18.960 --> 01:57:22.760
to store, something that is relatively difficult to smelt and refine.
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01:57:24.079 --> 01:57:26.800
These concepts just don't make sense. But there's somewhere deep
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01:57:26.960 --> 01:57:30.880
inside of our subconscious as individuals, I would advocate that
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01:57:30.960 --> 01:57:34.119
we need to start taking a look at our resources.
1792
01:57:34.760 --> 01:57:39.119
Gold may be one of those resources for ornamental purposes,
1793
01:57:39.279 --> 01:57:43.039
or for religious purposes, or you know, metaphorical purposes or whatever,
1794
01:57:43.520 --> 01:57:45.720
but it's not the main one. I think that you know,
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01:57:45.880 --> 01:57:48.680
none of us. They never said, you know, the army
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01:57:48.720 --> 01:57:51.079
crawls on its belly for gold. No, It's like, we
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01:57:51.199 --> 01:57:55.640
need food. Food is the thing that makes all things tick.
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01:57:55.760 --> 01:57:59.239
And if we don't have sustenance, we can't continue living.
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01:57:59.840 --> 01:58:02.000
And so when we get right down again to the
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01:58:02.279 --> 01:58:05.399
very basis of our humanity. What do we need to have.
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01:58:05.560 --> 01:58:07.600
We need to have clean air, We need to have
1802
01:58:07.760 --> 01:58:11.119
clean water, we need to have clean soil. Those are
1803
01:58:11.199 --> 01:58:14.479
the three main forces that are absolutely necessary for the
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01:58:14.560 --> 01:58:18.960
production of food and for the production of healthy humanity.
1805
01:58:19.039 --> 01:58:21.319
Because the more toxins that we have, the more disease
1806
01:58:21.439 --> 01:58:24.800
incidents of disease that we have, the more incidents of
1807
01:58:27.479 --> 01:58:34.159
death and comorbidity, co morbidity and other different types of
1808
01:58:35.840 --> 01:58:40.319
concepts like this, they just perpetuate the less clean things are.
1809
01:58:40.439 --> 01:58:46.199
So if we can focus on currency really being, how
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01:58:46.319 --> 01:58:49.039
clean is our environment, how clean is our food, How
1811
01:58:49.119 --> 01:58:51.439
clean is our water, how clean is our air? The
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01:58:51.520 --> 01:58:53.560
things that make all things tick. How rich are we
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01:58:53.960 --> 01:58:57.840
in abundant resources, how much forested area are we able
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01:58:57.920 --> 01:59:00.760
to create or reforest in order to to give life
1815
01:59:00.880 --> 01:59:04.279
to wild animals? And how many animals can we steward
1816
01:59:04.319 --> 01:59:07.279
inside of this area sustainably in order to create the
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01:59:07.359 --> 01:59:10.800
best biodiversity possible and ensure the food networks not just
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01:59:10.920 --> 01:59:13.439
for us, but for them, because all of them have
1819
01:59:13.560 --> 01:59:17.199
an intricate place inside of ecology that are able to
1820
01:59:17.279 --> 01:59:22.439
balance and speak to various aspects of well being, and
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01:59:22.600 --> 01:59:25.680
the greater the well being of our ecology, the greater
1822
01:59:25.840 --> 01:59:28.800
the well being of ourselves. Because we derive our food
1823
01:59:28.880 --> 01:59:33.079
and our sustenance from the ecology entirely, we are not
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01:59:33.199 --> 01:59:35.039
separate from it. We are one with it, and so
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01:59:35.279 --> 01:59:38.199
we have to be able to value those things. And
1826
01:59:38.399 --> 01:59:41.319
when we talk about value, that is when we are
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01:59:41.399 --> 01:59:44.359
talking about money. That's when we're talking about currency. We
1828
01:59:44.520 --> 01:59:47.880
place value on money, We place value on currency. The
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01:59:48.000 --> 01:59:51.720
physical value system that makes things tick really is that,
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01:59:52.079 --> 01:59:57.560
and so economics and currency need to be intertwined. And
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01:59:57.680 --> 02:00:00.199
like I said, you know, my thing is as far
1832
02:00:00.239 --> 02:00:02.239
as I can get, as deep as I've been able
1833
02:00:02.279 --> 02:00:04.960
to go with this over the past twelve or so
1834
02:00:05.159 --> 02:00:10.119
years now, we've really got to focus on our ecology
1835
02:00:10.239 --> 02:00:14.439
and our natural resources of each and every individual area
1836
02:00:14.640 --> 02:00:18.960
and realize how sustainable or unsustainable it is for human
1837
02:00:19.079 --> 02:00:23.600
existence and for other existence like animal existence or forest
1838
02:00:23.640 --> 02:00:26.119
existence to exist in that area. Like I would not
1839
02:00:26.319 --> 02:00:29.479
advocate going to the Sahara Desert and trying to reforest
1840
02:00:29.600 --> 02:00:32.840
that area because it is a desert for a reason.
1841
02:00:33.319 --> 02:00:36.239
But when we take areas like around the Great Lakes
1842
02:00:36.279 --> 02:00:40.279
region or other things that were forested we can actually
1843
02:00:40.439 --> 02:00:44.880
not only reforest big portions of those areas, but we
1844
02:00:45.000 --> 02:00:48.319
can also help to evolve the natural state of those forests.
1845
02:00:48.399 --> 02:00:50.199
Kind of like what I was referring to earlier is
1846
02:00:50.279 --> 02:00:54.239
that a really young forest is oftentimes pine trees and
1847
02:00:54.319 --> 02:00:57.520
evergreens and things like that. And the further along that
1848
02:00:57.640 --> 02:01:00.520
the evolution of that system goes, you'll begin to see
1849
02:01:00.960 --> 02:01:03.119
more hardwood trees and so on and so forth. And
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02:01:03.239 --> 02:01:08.199
we can begin to with our technologies, sustainable technologies, all
1851
02:01:08.279 --> 02:01:13.000
chemical technology, to begin to steward that change and moving
1852
02:01:13.079 --> 02:01:16.159
it in the right direction, not only to fit our needs,
1853
02:01:16.239 --> 02:01:19.199
but the needs of a growing and evolving ecology as well.
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02:01:19.960 --> 02:01:22.239
So, in other words, we need to become more like
1855
02:01:22.359 --> 02:01:26.960
the plants and trees and have this shared type of
1856
02:01:27.119 --> 02:01:31.159
ecosystem amongst us and share each other's resources in a
1857
02:01:31.239 --> 02:01:33.560
way that collectively benefits everyone.
1858
02:01:35.239 --> 02:01:38.079
Well that's one option. I mean, what you're saying, if
1859
02:01:38.159 --> 02:01:41.239
I take that out of context, sounds strangely like socialism.
1860
02:01:40.880 --> 02:01:41.760
Or constrct.
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02:01:42.880 --> 02:01:45.439
And we don't want to go down that road because
1862
02:01:45.520 --> 02:01:49.159
that ignores what is important for the individual. And so
1863
02:01:49.439 --> 02:01:52.520
this is where our cosmology and our philosophy needs to
1864
02:01:52.560 --> 02:01:55.119
be taken care of first, and we need to realize
1865
02:01:55.279 --> 02:01:59.159
we like each step of these builds upon the last step,
1866
02:01:59.720 --> 02:02:03.520
and so these things need to stay. Like, for instance,
1867
02:02:03.680 --> 02:02:06.239
if we were like the trees and sharing all of
1868
02:02:06.319 --> 02:02:09.199
our resources because we wanted to and it was in
1869
02:02:09.439 --> 02:02:13.319
our best interest to do that, that's a good system.
1870
02:02:14.119 --> 02:02:16.880
But if we were doing that because we were forced to,
1871
02:02:17.000 --> 02:02:20.720
then that violates my second principle of our law and
1872
02:02:21.000 --> 02:02:24.520
justice and those rights that I have as an individual
1873
02:02:24.680 --> 02:02:28.079
being stepped upon. So we have to be able to
1874
02:02:28.439 --> 02:02:30.720
keep in mind what the right is but also what
1875
02:02:30.800 --> 02:02:35.600
our responsibility is, and when we can balance those things,
1876
02:02:35.720 --> 02:02:38.640
then we will naturally, I think, want to take care
1877
02:02:38.680 --> 02:02:42.279
of other folks to the best of our capacity. But again,
1878
02:02:42.399 --> 02:02:44.720
we have to kind of get out of our traumas first,
1879
02:02:44.920 --> 02:02:48.039
because traumas keep us just in a state of self
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02:02:48.119 --> 02:02:52.359
preservation and self survival. Once we're able to process those
1881
02:02:52.439 --> 02:02:56.760
things in real time, they our humanity opens up and
1882
02:02:56.840 --> 02:02:58.800
we become a lot more generous and a lot more
1883
02:02:58.840 --> 02:03:01.359
giving because we're not just focusing on ourselves. And you
1884
02:03:01.439 --> 02:03:03.640
can see, like when people deal with their traumas, their
1885
02:03:03.760 --> 02:03:05.960
first thing that they want to do is help other
1886
02:03:06.000 --> 02:03:10.520
people overcome their traumas. It's just the natural capacity of
1887
02:03:10.600 --> 02:03:12.880
what happens. It's like, oh I did this and this work.
1888
02:03:13.039 --> 02:03:14.680
Let me show you what I did and maybe that
1889
02:03:14.760 --> 02:03:17.520
will work for you type of thing. And so in
1890
02:03:17.720 --> 02:03:21.279
that way, we do begin sharing our resources, we do
1891
02:03:21.479 --> 02:03:24.239
begin sharing our things. So if we could become like
1892
02:03:24.359 --> 02:03:27.880
the trees, that would be really, really awesome. We're a
1893
02:03:28.039 --> 02:03:31.800
very far far way away from that. And we have
1894
02:03:31.960 --> 02:03:34.119
to realize too that we're some of us are going
1895
02:03:34.199 --> 02:03:36.279
to be the trees. Some of us are going to
1896
02:03:36.359 --> 02:03:38.479
be the brush, some of us are going to be
1897
02:03:38.600 --> 02:03:40.239
the grasses. Some of us are going to be the
1898
02:03:40.319 --> 02:03:44.039
subterranean tubers and roots and corns and rhizomes. Some of
1899
02:03:44.159 --> 02:03:46.560
us are going to be the microbes. See, that's the
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02:03:46.680 --> 02:03:52.800
diversity of ecology. And if we can find our spaces
1901
02:03:53.119 --> 02:03:57.159
and our talents, our interests are placed in society as
1902
02:03:57.239 --> 02:04:01.119
human beings, all of these roles will now truly be fulfilled.
1903
02:04:01.720 --> 02:04:04.800
But we have to get first through the traumas and
1904
02:04:04.840 --> 02:04:07.600
stop being a slave to you know, the corporate wage
1905
02:04:07.680 --> 02:04:12.199
and whatever else, in order to even think about what
1906
02:04:12.520 --> 02:04:16.760
will enliven us, you know, And so kind of preceding
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02:04:17.000 --> 02:04:19.680
all of these things is what I refer to as
1908
02:04:19.800 --> 02:04:22.960
the trans personal alchemical process, and that's where we apply
1909
02:04:23.159 --> 02:04:26.760
these alchemical steps first to ourselves to overcome these baser
1910
02:04:26.880 --> 02:04:30.159
traumas and self limiting beliefs and other things, so that
1911
02:04:30.319 --> 02:04:34.359
we can become as self aware as possible and move
1912
02:04:34.479 --> 02:04:36.600
in a direction that allows us to start to think
1913
02:04:36.600 --> 02:04:40.000
about these alchemic culture concepts. So you're not wrong, it's
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02:04:40.119 --> 02:04:43.159
just I'm not advocate advocating communism.
1915
02:04:46.159 --> 02:04:49.399
So we've got about thirty minutes left. Let's briefly go
1916
02:04:49.640 --> 02:04:53.720
over the remainder of these principles that you're discussing, and
1917
02:04:54.199 --> 02:04:58.159
I want to close on what astronomology is.
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02:04:59.319 --> 02:05:02.560
Okay, So, so the next one is citizenship and social dynamics.
1919
02:05:02.640 --> 02:05:05.479
What are our role within society? What is our role
1920
02:05:05.560 --> 02:05:09.399
as an individual citizen? And how do we choose to work,
1921
02:05:11.079 --> 02:05:14.119
you know, for the benefit of our society. The next
1922
02:05:14.319 --> 02:05:17.560
is agriculture and ecology. What is the role of agriculture
1923
02:05:17.600 --> 02:05:22.720
and ecology within any particular civilization or community or whatever,
1924
02:05:23.399 --> 02:05:26.520
Because it's going to be different. That is largely dependent
1925
02:05:26.600 --> 02:05:30.000
upon the bioregion. You know, the climate, the microclimates, the
1926
02:05:30.479 --> 02:05:33.159
you know, all those different things. They all come into play. There,
1927
02:05:33.399 --> 02:05:35.279
and so we need to think about how we can
1928
02:05:35.359 --> 02:05:39.319
steward those things as humans to create the best benefit possible.
1929
02:05:39.600 --> 02:05:42.359
And again that can tie it right back into how
1930
02:05:42.600 --> 02:05:47.479
resourceful is a particular area or location versus another area,
1931
02:05:47.560 --> 02:05:50.079
and how can you know how slash Why would we
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02:05:50.159 --> 02:05:52.680
choose to inhabit those areas or to focus on those
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02:05:52.760 --> 02:05:56.000
areas for living because right now it's mostly economically based.
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02:05:56.359 --> 02:06:01.720
People live in Los Angeles for economic reason or because
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02:06:01.800 --> 02:06:03.560
they were just born there and have no way of
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02:06:03.600 --> 02:06:06.479
getting out, But that in itself is an economic reason
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02:06:06.680 --> 02:06:09.880
in our current society. So otherwise we would want to
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02:06:10.000 --> 02:06:12.720
choose very deliberately why we want to live there, based
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02:06:12.760 --> 02:06:14.600
on our own purpose and our own society and so
1940
02:06:14.720 --> 02:06:18.039
on and so forth, and how we can contribute to
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02:06:18.119 --> 02:06:21.000
that with our own citizenship. The next is our sciences
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02:06:21.079 --> 02:06:24.319
and our technologies. This is important because you know, we're
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02:06:24.560 --> 02:06:30.800
using technologies and the sciences entirely irresponsibly. Actually we're just
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developing for the sake of developing. We have to ask, yeah,
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we can, like I know that the human capacity is yeah,
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we can do anything individually, collectively, et cetera. But should
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we and why should we? These things are so critical
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to really explore not just personally, but collectively as well
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before rolling out any sort of technology or engaging in
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any sort of scientific inquiry into absolutely any area. And
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so our sciences and technologies, which also tie into our
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arts as well. Technology and art always go hand in hand.
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Art usually pushes the boundaries of why technology is created
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in the first place, because it's human beings pushing the
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limit of their own creativity in their own imagination. That's
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what gives rise to technology. So arts, sciences, technology, they
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all kind of go hand in hand, but we need
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to be able to steward those in a much better way.
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And then, lastly, our healing and our medicine practices, what
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does it look like for us, because you know, we're
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already at the point where within five to ten years
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there are going to be injections. I've been following the
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science on this very intensely, that there will be injections
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that we can do that are able to reverse the
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aging process of the DNA and of the mitochondria. And
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that's amazing for so many people. I mean, when you
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could take Grandma who has been suffering for a long
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time and reverse her aging process to the point where
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she's now, say, twenty eight years old.
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Again.
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Wow, that's a new lease on life, not just metaphorically,
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like physically, and that brings with it all sorts of
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wonderful or wonderful capacities and ideas, But it brings with
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it an enormous way of responsibility. How are we going
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to choose to live? How are we going to choose
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to breed? What are the rules around that engagement, either
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spoken or unspoken, and so on and so forth. So
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we need to be able to think about these types
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of things and what is ethical? What is the ideal
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lifespan of a human individual? What is the ideal amount
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of population that the ecology can serve? And see, all
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the things need to be figured out personologically first, and
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then we can think about it on these slightly more
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telescopic levels. But each one of these principles that I
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brought up builds upon the last, So that if you
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build from the ground up, starting with that first principle
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of our human cosmology, all the way up finally to
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our health and wellness, then it gives us foundation to
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draw up on, just like the science of geometry does.
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Right.
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It's like when we do proofs inside of geometry. We
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are building upon logic that has already been pre established,
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and that type of logic is also the same way
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that I have tried to structure this alchemic culture system,
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where do this first, then this, then this, and then
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look backwards. When you're thinking about health and medicine, look
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back to the ecology, what does your ecology actually support,
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Look back to your economics. What do you do your
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economics support? Because right now that answer is with that
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injection the very rich, we'll be able to afford that technology.
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And do we really want the very rich living longest?
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Because they're oftentimes perpetuating the majority of the toxicity simply
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in the name of profit. So they got where they're at,
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but they've sacrificed so much of other people. They've you know,
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sacrificed other people in ecology and et cetera, or to
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be able to accomplish that. So that, in a nutshell
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is basically al chemical ture philosophy right on, man.
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I Love this discussion is stimulating all kinds of different
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types of thoughts and concepts that we should be really
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looking towards. Now. To close out, tell us all about
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astronomology and the astromological calendar.
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Cool. Yeah, First of all, that is a hell of
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a mouthful, isn't it. Yeah, okay, so astronomology was I
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didn't create that term, but I have used it professionally.
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That term was created before me. It was one of
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those things where I thought I created it, and then
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I look it up and it's like, oh, people have
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already used that. But it's basically a blend of astronomy,
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that's the astrono part and astrology, which is the ology
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part of it. And so for me as an esotericist,
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astrology has always been a very important part of the
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hermetic parent time and as an alchemist, we would rarely
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be anywhere without this history of astrology kind of following us.
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But in my own workings, I have found that the
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biodynamic calendar was far more correct than like the tropical
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astrology that was used before the time of Paracelsus, and
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even during the time Paracelsist didn't like to use astrology. Actually,
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he said that astronomy was important in that we would
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be able to see the actual planets in their positions.
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So what he was referring to is like almost a
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true astronomical alignment of things. But he still brought up
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all of these concepts that were kind of astrological in nature,
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even though he didn't like the astrology of the time
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and spoke very outwardly against it. But other astrologers in
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the Renaissance were very big on this, and you know,
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of course today it's so popular that in the newspapers
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and magazines you have horoscopes for people's sun science. But
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the thing is is that all of those planets, whether
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we're talking about veda ca astrology, which is a form
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of siderial astrology, or whether we're talking about tropical astrology,
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which is used by most astrologers in the United States
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and abroad these days, they don't align whatsoever with the
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actual planet. So we could say that like, oh, the
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Sun is in Aries on March twentieth, Well, what does
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that mean? Because when I take a look at the
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position of the Sun around that time, it's actually still
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very clearly in the constellation of Pisces. And what I
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mean by that is that here in the background around
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the ecliptic as we're looking in the sky, is the
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constellation of Pisces, and the Sun is right in front
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of that constellation. So that means the Sun is in Pisces.
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But again, tropical astrologers are saying, well, no, it's actually
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in Aries. But Aries is way over here, and the
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Sun is not over there, it's over here. And so
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I started to notice in my own astrological works, especially
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engaging in biodynamic agriculture, that the Sun is actually not
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where they were saying that it is. From an astronomical perspective,
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And what does that mean? And what happens if I
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align the positions of where I'm actually perceiving the Sun
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to be from my topicentric perspective here on Earth and
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where the constellations are, And what happens if I change
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my perspective and say, instead of Sun and airy, sun
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is actually in Pisces. And so this means that root
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vegetables should ideally be planted at this particular time, or
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that roots actually have the greatest vitality. And that's what
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happens in the spring, is that the roots are waking
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up inside of everything and they're starting to send their
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energy outwards. And the Sun is all about the distribution
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of vitality and energy, and it's exuding from the root
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at the spring equinox. So to me, I've been able
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to see that there is a different perspective there. So
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I have combined astrology with astronomy, and the form of
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astrology that I use was created by Athin Kamenti. A
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lot of people have heard me exalt his virtues over
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the years.
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I've had ethyn On a couple of weeks ago.
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Yeah, he's awesome. I love him. Can't speak highly enough
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about him. So his astrology was the very first astrology form,
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which he calls true sceterial astrology that I was able
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to actually validate and verify through clinical studies on humans
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as well as validate with my plants inside of my
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gardens and by utilizing biodynamic principles Maria Tuon style biodynamic principles,
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but with his count of the true serial astrological positions
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of astronomical bodies. And what's interesting is his form is
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even more accurate than the International Astronomical Union data, which
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is looking at things from an astronomical perspective, and all
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he's doing it's very simple system is you take the
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end of one constellation along the ecliptic and the beginning
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of the next, and this is derived from the last star,
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the furthest star in one constellation Sa Pisces and the
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first star of Ares, and he draws the midpoint between
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those and he says, that's now the cusp And as
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the planets go through the entire you know, ecliptic, which
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is to say, all the different constellations, we realize that
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there is actually thirteen of those, not just twelve, because
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even though it's just the smallest little bit of the
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foot of Ophiuchus that is along the ecliptic. And we
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do have evidence that ancient cultures would have used this
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as well, especially Greeks. Pre Ptolemaic Greeks would have definitely
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used this. So I started validating a lot of his
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research when I found his work and have been running
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split tests on it ever since. And since twenty twenty two,
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I have been creating the astronomyological calendars, which basically break
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down the position of where all of the planets actually
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are and in what actual constellations, and then combining that
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with proper astronomy too, so letting people know you know,
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when our eclipses and like today, for instance, the Earth
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is at perihelion today, which means that the Earth is
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the closest to the Sun that it will be all
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year long, and so we include perihelion data and ap
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helion data for not just Earth, but all of the planets.
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We also give appage and paragee times for the moon,
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and I lay out all six of the different lunar rhythms,
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which is to say, waxing and waning cycles, the ascending
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and descending moon cycles, ascending node and descending node cycles,
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and it's the appogee and perag cycles. So much more so,
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I have done my very best to be able to
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take everything that can be validated and verified using alchemical
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lab work and agriculture and put it into a style
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of a calendar that can be used for Auralian spageria,
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like the spagirics that I practice, are slightly different, even
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if only technically in application and in pharmacology from what
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is oftentimes being taught at Spageeria. That's why I gave
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it the particular name or Aralians Spageeria, and for Aralian medicine,
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which is the whole form of medicine that I've been creating,
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and for alchemic culture principles as well, and so all
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of those are there inside of my calendar, and it's
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a huge undergoing. We only print off two hundred calendars
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every year because it's not you know, this is the
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third year that I will have been making this calendar,
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and so it's not terribly terribly popular. There's a handful
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of people across a globe using it, and it's only
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good for the Northern hemisphere at that. So we have
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some people in Europe and a decent amount of people
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in North America that are using these calendars, but it's
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less than two hundred people, you know what I mean,
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at least in print version. You can get this in
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pdf version on the website as well, but so yeah,
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it's growing in popularity. And what I have encouraged people
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to do is just like myself, I produce this thing.
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It's enormously costly for me to print. It's enormously costly.
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It takes me like four months to hand make this
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calendar because I have to do everything date by date
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by date and research and compare it to tons of
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different types of things. But I encourage people to use
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that and run split tests against biodynamic calendars or against
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you know, like Llewellyn's calendar for Witches and you know
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other things where they ask you do you think.
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It could possibly be our collective misunderstanding of astrology that
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maybe is a contributing factor into the state of society
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these days where we've been led wrong in some ways.
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That was just a snowball effect over the centuries.
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Yeah, I definitely do, and I think, you know, I
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think the tropical astrology does have an effect. But the
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reason it has an effect, as far as I can tell,
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is because people believe in it, and anything that we
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believe in has some sort of power from the astral
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and so we are deriving some energy from that. But
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when we align our belief systems with more perennial truths,
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then we're able to get a much better result. And
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that was the whole basis behind this for me was
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let's actually, you know, the astral actually comes from Astra star,
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and the stars are putting out energies frequencies to us constantly,
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that that is a perennial truth. All of the Megalithic
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and Neolithic monuments are aligned to the actual stars, not
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to the idea of where the stars would have been
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in some intangible calculation. So people are believing in things
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that give it some form of power, just like our
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government just like our currency, just like all of those things,
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and they're relying simply on the mental plane and the
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emotion of the adulteration of the emotional plane, that emotional
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sense of certainty that solidifies and crystallizes in those sick
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beliefs that have influenced our entire humanity, and sadly a
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lot of people are very subject to that. So yes,
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in short, the answer is yes, Chris, I do right on.
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Now, how do you feel about the energies of the
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upcoming years and what we could be looking towards as
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far as different outcomes, pivotal moments in the collective consciousness
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of society and everything that's happened and where we're going.
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I feel hopeful, because if I lose hope, then I
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don't know that I would really keep going, you know,
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it drives me to a point of suicide or something.
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But realistically I think that, you know, I have seen
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a lot of changes that are very, very beneficial happen
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just in the course of my lifetime, and they're not
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taking mainstream hold yet, but they are growing exponentially each
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and every year. And some people just need such a
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hard and intense crisis to be able to get real
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and honest and truthful with themselves that things might need
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to get worse before they get better. But we are
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near that breaking point. I think, now, what does near mean?
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I don't know. That could be highly subjective, could mean
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this year, It could mean ten years from now, could
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mean fifty years from now. But you know, there's not
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one source of water on the planet that does not
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have what is called a PFAS or pfos, a forever
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chemical inside of it. This is every source of water
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in the world. And that's because all water flows into
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one another throughout the whole world, through underground aquifers, through
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evaporation and rain systems and so on and so forth.
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They are all one system. That everything is one system
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at its base. That's the spiritual perennial concept of unity.
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But realistically, we're poisoning ourselves and everything else with our
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human behaviors that are unconscious. And so if we can
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just make as you know, as Young said, make the
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unconscious conscious, then we're able to really make some cool
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impacts and strides. And that doesn't take a lot. It
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takes silence, and it takes introspection and unadulterated honesty. We
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have to get real with ourselves. Why are we doing things,
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what are we justifying as our beliefs, as our modus operandi,
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and why are we participating in that? And once you
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get to that answer, then that opens up the space
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for transformation and we have to We're at a critical juncture,
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I think, where we have to look at this as
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humanity if we want to go on with any semblance
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of our historical integrity that we have had since as
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far back as you know we can possibly go in
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the archaeological records and however far humanity and humanoid like
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existence exists before that, we really just have to get
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real with ourselves, Chris, and we have to be able
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to see personally and sociologically what are the things that
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are the most important to us, and what can we
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not sacrifice and what is you know, what do we
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want the direction to be? And that is an answer
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that every single individual has to have, or at least,
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by far the vast majority of individuals has to have,
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because otherwise what we're doing is the same thing is
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what they're doing right now. Is that a small group
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of thinkers, regardless of whether they're noble or not, are
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going to guide the whole course of humanity, because humanity
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is too lazy or trauma or whatever the case is,
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to take accountability for themselves. So I see that moving forward,
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cycles of the cosmos are going to continue to act
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on us, just as they have for many, many, many,
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many many millennia, and we can't avoid that. We can.
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What we can do, though, is we can be aware
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of where we want to be going and where we're
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at now and utilize the cycles that are upon us
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at any given moment to be able to help to
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instill a better future for ourselves. Like for instance, Mars
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is moving into the constellation of Sagittarius today. That is
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a very fiery energy, and that lends itself to calcination,
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to self honesty, to the burning away of self justifications
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and belief systems. That is a really great archetype for that.
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And if people can take this opportunity of that cosmic
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cycle that is already inherent and shed to Earth from
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the cosmos itself wealth and use that as the opportunity
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the impetus to be able to transform, then we have
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some chance. And i'd, like I said, I remain hopeful
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because without that, I don't know what I would have.
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Excellent I love it, man, this was fantastic. We definitely
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have to speak again very soon in the future. We
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barely scratch a service on some of this stuff, and
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we'll get much deeper before you head out. Remind the
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audience how they can find out more about you and
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get a hold of all your content and everything you're offering.
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Thank you so much. Yeah, So, the best way for
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folks to get a hold of me is through my
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website at Phoenixrelias dot org. We basically have like a
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Patreon style structure, so everything that you buy, whether the
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Astronomological Calendar or any of the multitudinous, I have almost
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five hundred spaderic offerings inside of my Spagiic Hypothecary or
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even my meditation albums or educational series and things like that.
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That all continues to support my research and to me
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to be able to come up with ideas like this
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and to share them with the public and so on
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and so forth. So it's you don't have to subscribe
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to anything, You just buy what you want, and that
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helps to fund and support the research and helps me
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to continue doing what I'm doing. So Phoenixrelius dot org
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and I do share a lot of ideas and other
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things on my own podcast which is called the Alchemiculture Podcast,
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and you can find that on Spotify and Apple and
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YouTube and all the other places that things like that are.
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So if you like these ideas, that might be another
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fun way of engaging with these these types of topics.
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Amazing. Thank you so much, Phoenix. This was fantastic. Like
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I said, we'll do this again soon and until next time, everyone,
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have an excellent evening. We will talk again tomorrow and
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we'll see y'all. Then. Are you and your family prepared
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