FIVEAA Breakfast with David & Will - 13 February 2026

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Speaker 1: If I don't listen to five Double A Breakfast.
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Speaker 2: In the morning, I actually have a bad day.
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Speaker 3: Live from hein Marsh Square. It's five double A Breakfast, David Penberthy and Will Goodings.
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Speaker 1: It's it up to see us. Good morning.
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Speaker 4: Tell you welcome to Friday. On five double A Breakfast. The thirteenth says Ned and Sam. We're talking about very super state for superstitious people. That might be part of the meat tray this morning. Tell you what someone was had their lucky rabbit's foot or something. Davren park Man won three point one million dollars.
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Speaker 1: What would you do? What should you do with three million dollars?
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Speaker 4: He might buy Davren Parker just about you should buy a fair chunk might get you a straight on Today we'll be chatting with the money.
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Speaker 1: Expert very very shortly. Okay, that's I was being rude there about Davin park I think Devren park people would have not minded that joke. Well, the thread of telling me that they did mind it absolutely Text one.
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Speaker 4: Exactly right before I right thirty ninety fie. Also, we're off to the US. We'll be chatting with a reporter from the Arizona Republican Tucson about the search for Nancy Guthrie. There was a lead that it had appeared promising that's been extinguished. That we'll talk about very shortly after seven o'clock today, Tim Jennifer, he was holding everything on the Greeny Short game was electric during the pro and we'll talk to him about liv Gulf, which started in Earnest yesterday. Michael Packy in the nation's capital about some at eight thirty our time, the Federal Liberal Party will meet to decide who will be the leader. Angus Taylor or Susan Lee will be crossing there before nine o'clock as well. Feedback Friday, of course, David Penberthy, good.
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Speaker 1: Morning to you, Good morning, will, Good morning listeners. That was the voice of Sally from Hillcrest. You heard there at the start of the show, saying that her superstition is that she cannot start the day right without the five double a Brecky Show and also now the Early Breakfast. In fact, she was making those very comments on the Early Breakfast Show with Sam and Ned. I'm going to say, Sally, I'm sure still listening and anyone else who heard what Sally said. Sally was talking about why she loved the show, and this is in no way like an attempt at the blowing of one's own trumpet, but she made a really really good comment. And how long we've been doing this job. We started on the same day on different shows. I started on Breaking You started in afternoons, but it's what thirteen nine years, Yeah, to start up twenty and fourteen. So on a nondescript Friday morning where you're driving into work and thinking, oh, yeah, it's almost a weekend, we'll do the show. It'll be a bit of fun. But hearing Sally talk, which she said that she made two points. She said, I like the local nature, all the information I get. I like how local it is. And I like that it sounds like the guys do know and understand and care about the state, and you know, because we're from here. But then she said, the thing I like about it is it makes me feel like I'm part of a community and that they listen to me. And I thought, it's actually a really nice thing to say, and it's actually good to get it that sort of unsolicited feedback, because if you had some planning day where you know, you're locked in a room with some outside consultant and the butcher's papers up on the walls and the text of markets and it's like, what do you what are your brand values? If you were if you could describe yourself with the following dot points, what what words do you mean? You know? What do you strive to be? And you kill me now that sort of stuff. But it's telling I thought that comment that makes you want to keep Not that I'm saying I don't want it, but it's the sort of comment makes you want to think this is a good job to have completely completely. It was really good comments she made. Did you hear it?
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Speaker 5: No?
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Speaker 1: I didn't, I do. I only just heard the little bit she said just there. Good. So thank you Sally.
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Speaker 4: We feel like you guys are part of the community as well. It's a it's a fun one and we love that. We love our regular callers and people are texting and it's never too late to become a regular.
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Speaker 1: Eight double two three double O double is our number.
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Speaker 4: And you might want to call in a win a meat tray this morning thanks to Grammatio Foods Delicious. By the way, this is a great Gramatio Foods. Unbelievable essays only Silliac certified butcher Burnside Village, Golden Grove Village and online at Grammatio Foods dot com dot are you. We might as well continue the conversation for the early breakfast. I think on superstitions, it is Friday the thirteenth.
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Speaker 1: Is anyone not.
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Speaker 4: Getting out of bed today? Does anyone take it that seriously? You're hiding under the doner cover? What are your superstitions you observe?
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Speaker 1: Isn't it? What? Friday the thirteenth? Titis fearing of the number thirteen? Fearing the number thirteen. There's a Greek word for it, which is thirteen in Greek. Whatever it is, the three something three deca, three deca, three decade is ten.
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Speaker 4: Trust to dacaphobia, trista decca. That's right, Trust to decaphobia. That makes sense, curly spatter. Though everybody likesion, I feel like thirteen's lost lost its impact because there's other silly superstitions around these days.
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Speaker 1: A bet we'll hear something new. When I was a kid, we have.
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Speaker 4: A massive sports superstitions, haven't you. Oh yeah, I stick to a winning formula. I'm like, I'm like not oppucino, Uh brain man, no, no, not rain Man in silver linings, playbook pieces are going to lose. It'll come to me, yes, massively, massively on the on the the remarkably the remarkable yet tragically ending run of my basketball team this this past year. I discovered early in the playoffs that there was a one for one correlation between me driving home from here, buying my family breakfast from one particular place, and then winning. And it lasted up until Game seven of the finals. The very last day was with the day that that superstition got broken. But up until that point it worked every single time. There was sometimes I couldn't things to do, yet I did it, put on five kilos, lost a lot of money in the process, but we won a lot of games. Your superstitions, folks, eight double two three, double O, double O is another YEARI in Beaumont, Good morning.
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Speaker 6: Boys. Number one superstition. If I'm driving me and my wife Belinda, my lovely Polish wife, which Will has met and met with many a few times, Sess's talking to me at the show, remember the show. Every time we went we saw each other again exactly okay, very quickly. If I'm driving down the road and I see a black cat, I will stop and reverse twice every time without fail. Really, you're always always. And if I'm walking on the street, and if I have this stub my right foot on the paver, I have to tap my left foot also to even it up. I do that every time.
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Speaker 1: That's a good one. I like that. I'm with you that. Actually that's excellent. Yeah, you've got a few things going on like that upstairs. I think mine not really superstitions. I think mine are just mild A C D. That that's like a new miracle, Like if I eat scorched diamonds. I think I've told you that. Oh you have to do odd numbers, don't you. And in the garden, I can't plant two plants or four plants or six plants. I have to plant uneven number plants. Odd number looks better. Yeah, well that's right, exactly. Yeah, So there's a logic to that, But there's no logic to you can only eat up to a maximum of seven. Scorched diarmonds have to be dark scorched diarbonds. Won't eat milk scorched diamonds at all, hate them, but dark scorch diamonds you can only ever eat seven. But you shouldn't. The optimum number is five, but you have to eat three or five, and if you're really going for it, you can have seven. You can anymore. But if I add four scorched diarmonds, I will be able to go to sleep. But this is I don't know why I'm not making it up.
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Speaker 4: No, I know it's a thing. But the most I can't. You don't strike me as the kind of guts in there counting how many mouthfuls of anything you're eating.
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Speaker 1: I do it subliminally, and I could actually, I'll be honest, Like when I was a kid, I went through this phase what I probably like eight or nine where I'd lick my lips and I'd sort of do this thing where I'd bite on the top of my bottom lip. But I have to do a certain number of times. I can remember getting a rash from it. So you've got a real numbers thing in your brain. It's weird. It's just a funny thing. Well, caunt that as a superstition is not a superstition, though it's very mental.
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Speaker 4: Well, look, I think they are all superstitions. I'd set level say I've got a lot of stuff totally. Robert de Niro and Silver Linings, Playboo, because I was thinking of Ben and Clarence Gardens.
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Speaker 7: Good morning, morning, gentlemen.
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Speaker 8: My suspicion is I've got like a real fear of flying.
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Speaker 9: So basically every time I get on the plane, or every time I basically have a fly.
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Speaker 10: I have to get there the same amount of time.
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Speaker 9: Before check in, I have to sit down. Basically got this full routine down pretty much from when I was fifteen years old, all the lap until now. I have to tap the plane twice as I walk in the as I'm walking through into the door of the time, like it's yeah, it's a serious thing, Like it gets anxiety.
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Speaker 1: If I don't.
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Speaker 9: If I miss a step, I literally have to walk back and do it before it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting, Ben, That is excellent.
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Speaker 1: One thing, there's an Adelaide writer called Joe McGarry who actually wrote a book about that kind of stuff. He had some very serious a d He wrote this really really amazing book. It started off with him being in LA with his then girlfriend and they were going to go camping, but he became so obsessed with researching what type of sleeping bag they were going to buy. But he couldn't bring himself to buy one, and he started visiting the factories that made them.
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Speaker 4: You're kidding, No, that's extreme amazing.
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Speaker 1: It's an amazing book, really good book, Debdan. What's yours?
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Speaker 7: Okada?
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Speaker 6: Boys.
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Speaker 2: My superstition is when I walk to work, and most of the times I do, I always walked through the backstreets because I can walk along the main road and get to work. But it bowl all go along the main road. I just have a bad day at work. I end up breaking something, somebody gives you a hard time, you're chasing your shop lift. It's just things don't work out right. So I just walked through the back street and then I have a good day.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. There's funny little routines that comfort me. Yeah, they do.
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Speaker 4: It is all about comfort, Eugene and Athleston. You've got a superstition for us.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, good guys. I've just covered I've got this amazing Crows guernsey. I bought it a quiz like years ago, signed by some of the greats of the club. I've realized that when I touched the guernsey or where it, when the Crows are playing that day, they lose.
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Speaker 4: Ah. Really, so you go on game days.
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Speaker 11: It started around twenty seventeen, so that probably, you know, when I started to wear it sort of more actively. But you know that may have concided with a lot of guys leaving the club as well. But yeah, these days it just doesn't even come out of stays in the cupboard.
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Speaker 1: I don't look at it.
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Speaker 11: If I accidentally pulled something to have to get clothes on the cabin, I make sure I don't touch it.
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Speaker 4: It's like a cursed object from tout and Carmen's tone say, well, like the like the hand and talk to me. That's a good object, Jes that is superb. Kept them coming through. Someone's going to win themselves. The Gramazio Foods meat tray hang on might not.
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Speaker 1: Be over yet. Five seven d his jig sign.
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Speaker 3: Deevid pen Berthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 1: Twenty five after six.
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Speaker 4: It was a big day at the play for Tavern They're on Peachey Road on Wednesday when a Dabren park Man won the Kenot Spot ten jackpot draw of three million, one hundred and forty six thousand, six hundred and ninety two dollars. Wow, that'll make a debt in your bills we got there was an interesting debate that was having with people, yesday, can you retire?
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Speaker 1: Could you retire with on three million dollars?
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Speaker 4: Depends how you are? Well, there's I mean, it depends what your needs are. What depends if you've paid off your house, yeah, or if you're close to paying them, Because if you think about it, say you could get a five percent return on that one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year, one hundred.
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Speaker 1: And fifty thousand dollars a years, three hundred.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. So maybe it's closer than you think. We've got a financial expert on here in Chris Foster Ramsey financial money expert Chris good Boarding to you, Well, what'll be the smartest thing to do if you suddenly found yourself in possession of three million dollars?
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Speaker 1: Do you think?
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Speaker 10: Well, I think it's I think it's probably smart to look at paying off the bad debt and inverted commons. I think that, you know, things like credit cards and car loans and that sort of stuff usually are the ones that go first when this sort of stuff happens. And I think that you know, it's a real opportunity to to set yourself up for the rest of your life and as you say, you know, have have a return that can support your lifestyle for the years to come.
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Speaker 1: What would you invest the money in, Chris? Would you just would you just bank it?
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Speaker 10: Well, I think you put it in the day to start with, and then you know, I think it's about really trying to get the right advice from the right people for your situation. You know, as you say, it's about age, it's about you know, whether you own a house. And the thing I love about this story is that you know, one of the first thing you did was he was like here, I'm here, Dad, here's a house. Like contribute to the family in other ways. So I think that you know, that's the it's not This isn't doesn't seem like it's about living like a rock staff for you know, three years. It's about trying to put the things in place for his for their situation for thirty years to come.
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Speaker 4: People get confronted with more realistic and likely small versions of this, don't they when they inherit money? Are they get money from unexpected source, maybe a payout or something, or rather work? What are the biggest mistakes people make when they get a sudden windfall for one of a better.
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Speaker 1: Turn of phrase.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, and we see this from time to time. I think that you know, the excitement and the and the the thought around having to come into all this money. You know, that's probably the most dangerous part in that people get tied up in that for the first couple of weeks and then work out what they want.
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Speaker 1: To do with it.
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Speaker 10: So we regularly see people coming into money where they do and you know, putting that in smart places and most of the time for a business that come through the way of a contribution to a property purchase in one way or another.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems to be the smart thing these days. Good on your Chris.
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Speaker 4: Chris Foster at Ramsey Finance and Money Expert. Would be nice to have the dilemma of where you're going to park your three point one dollars four to eight point two degrees outside in the city that made it headed for a top of twenty eight today, so it'll be a little bit warmer than yesterday, which was oddly cool. Pretty good day. If you're at lived Golfer, I reckon Tom wren Is in the studio. It's talk Live Golf and more. Get to Augustineamtsubci, now is Worth and Mawson Lakes to the outland Es drive away from just thirty nine nine ninety What did your aady.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, Morty Will morning.
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Speaker 13: David was there yesterday and today and hopefully over the weekend. I know you're going this well, Will. It was a great day for Mark Leishman. We've had the Rippers win the team event before, but we've not yet to have an individual winner. From an Australian perspective of living, he's off to a great start. He's equal leader. I think the organizers would be thrilled with who's up there. It's Leishman, you know, who's tied lead with Bryson de Shambeau, who sort of everyone knows and appreciates. Then you've got John Ram up there, Joake Neiman defending champion who's world class, and Dustin Johnson who hasn't played as well in recent years, but it's great to see him fit and firing. So it was a really good day. Concert was on last night. I was amazed at just how many young people are going in you know that later part of the day. So that's what it's all about it'll be on over the weekend, temperature warming up, so should be a great weekend, big day of sport because we've got the Crows a full internal hitout Port Adelaide the same. I know it's a bit weird. It's a bit like dancing with his sister, the internal trials, but they're necessary.
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Speaker 4: Interesting that Riley O'Brien's not playing with the ones today huge.
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Speaker 13: I think it could be a point with the rules, Lockie McAndrew sort of being looked at as to how things might unfold.
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Speaker 1: Throughout the year. That's a big story. It's a big story, and I think this sore Rackman.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because for the Crows, well, because the rules have changed in such a way. They rules have changed in such a way. The fear is that Riley O'Brien can't compete anymore.
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Speaker 13: The players that are going to benefit most out of the well, you're not allowed to wrestle. So at center bouncers, the likes of Luke Jackson, Tom deaconing Mark Pittnett, they are licking their lips because they can't get touched, whereas Riley O'Brian, he's all about Max Gorne. They're all about grabbing you wrestling and grappling. They're really strong. But if they're not allowed to do to do that, what do they do?
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Speaker 1: So it's why they've changed the rule. The good question, Tom rend just because of the AFL.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's an esthetic Pi.
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Speaker 4: I think they think it looks better the AFL. They just don't look more spectacular, the big run and jump.
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Speaker 1: They don't like the wrestling rule, Yeah, don't like it down the way it looks. Yeah at that meeting you AFL health.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, so for Paul rob and you know it's going to be hard. Yeah, it's going to be really hard. So that's a big watch.
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Speaker 1: Good on you ready? Thanks boys?
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Speaker 3: Five double a breakfast deep at Penberthy and Will Goodings twenty.
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Speaker 1: One minutes to seven.
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Speaker 4: The spill for the Federal Liberal Party leadership will take place at eight thirty our time. That's in two hours time and an hour's time. Michael Packy will give us the inside running on what's likely to happen. Pack is connected as anyone in this in this country and will find out I reckon an hour ahead of time how this is likely to form. Michael Packey After seven thirty, there's been no development. Unfortunately, overnight in the search for Nancy Guthrie in the United States, been some hope with regard to a man that had been detained for questioning, but he was subsequently released and that line of inquiry appears to have been extinguished.
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Speaker 1: So where to from here?
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Speaker 4: Richard Rellis has been covering this story for the Arizona Republic and joins us on five Double A Breakfast Now, Richard, Good morning to you and thanks for your time.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, So, Richard, given that the suspect that the police had when I saw him over night on both CNN and Fox talking about how they thought his eyebrows was similar to the person seeing on the on the on the doorstep, does this mean that the authorities is effectively now almost back at square one with nothing to go on.
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Speaker 8: From our vantage point as observers, it does seem like, right, there's no there's no one they have in their sights, but we have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. There's still his activity, there's still gaining evidence. They've asked the public to re look at any security footage they have a very specific day ten days before the disappearance, and then anything on January thirty first from another timeframe, which also might think maybe they're narrowing down what a vehicle or something that they're trying to get at. They had a tent over the front door of Nancy Guthrie's home. Today we have no idea what was going on in that tent, but right are they trying to get forensic evidence that they didn't want the media to see. Are they trying to replicate darkness as you've probably seen the doorbell camera video where they're trying to replicate what that looked like and put objects in that sort of condition to see if that's what it was. So there's a lot going on behind the scenes that maybe from our vantage point we're not able to see, and it does feel like a step back. They also haven't completely whirled out the man in Rio Rico, and I was down there and talked to him at one in the morning Arizona time when they finally he cleared. He was released to his home and gone. But they've said he was released, but they have not essentially said he's not part of the investigation still, even though he claims to not know anything about anything.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So that guy who was effectively holding his own sort of one man press conference talking to the TVs. So he's not necessarily in the clear yet.
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Speaker 8: Well, I mean again, like he's been released, he's not in custody, he's back home, his home is no longer you know, something that detectives are looking at. He says he has nothing to do with it. But again we have to very carefully parse out what they're saying. The authorready said he's been released. They haven't said he's been cleared, So is there a chance they think there's something there that he may have information? But they're not telling us why they stopped him. He said he didn't know why he was stopped. He works as a delivery driver. Did he deliver a package? You know? I mean he claimed to not know who Nancy Guthrie was or Savannah Guthrie. But right like it, I think, you know, it's frustrating, as you can imagine, authorities aren't telling us every step they're taking. So a lot of these answers we won't get until it's all resolved and then everything becomes clear. But right now it's still a waiting game, you know, which where you know, being out on the scene watching the FBI agents walk through the desert. Someone put it like, oh, almost like they're looking for a lost steering in the desert. You know. Apparently they found things in the desert around this neighborhood, including gloves, at least one glove.
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Speaker 1: Well, and has has it been proven, oh, proven might be the wrong word. With the ransoms that were being sought, were they necessarily from people who are suspected to have been involved in the abduction, or rather, is there a possibility that could have just been people opportunistically got in touch with the family to try to make some money out of this.
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Speaker 8: There definitely was one that authority said was a ruse, and they arrested a guy in California and have charged him with that. But again, as an observer, they seemed to take very seriously at least one set of communications from someone who claimed to have held and it's probably the one that everyone's heard of, you know, someone who said they want cryptocurrency, and they said they talked about some deadlines. So they haven't said whether it's legitimate, but they certainly were acting as if it was. They were acting as if this was someone who might know something, and they were definitely interested in communications. The Guthrie family. They created. The first communications were all centered around trying to reach that one individual. Since then, the FBI has said, and again we have to parse the words carefully, they are not aware of continued communication between the Guthrie family and this supported person who wrote the ransom note. Does that mean there's no communication, Does that mean there was communication? We don't know, but right now it seems like there's not a lot more going on there. Savannah Guthrie's newest videos are more aimed at the public, please help. She posted a video in the last few hours that was just old family movies of her as a little todd or a little girl with her mother at this you know what looks like that same home. You know the mom has lived there since nineteen seventy five, is where she raised the Guthries. So just trying to still keep the public's interest and asking anyone if they've seen anything to please contact Richard Roalis.
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Speaker 1: We really appreciate your time, Richard. It's a huge story getting a big amount of coverage here in Australia too, but thanks for taking time out from the coverage to join us here in Australia. Thank you mate.
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Speaker 4: Fourteen minutes to seven, we should probably stop being shocked by the depths to which humanity can, on occasion plummet. But my word, imagine watching a news service or however you get your information, finding out someone is going through an abduction situation and thinking, well, here's an opportunity.
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Speaker 1: It's disgusting and what sort of a scum mag they have to be.
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Speaker 4: It's just it's hard to get your head around. Third ey to seven, let's talk about the weather today and over the course of the weekend. Daniel Sherwin Simpson at the Weather Bureau joins us oneing here, Daniel.
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Speaker 14: Good morning, David, and well, so still a.
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Speaker 4: Little bit cooler than what we've experienced today, but looks like it's warming back up.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, look today twenty eight degrees though, so not too much to complain about it though, or a bit of a cooler style. They're still sitting at around fourteen degrees in the city and we've got a little bit of southeasterly wind coming down over the lofties which is probably bringing the fields like down a couple of extra degrees as well. But as I said, gaining up to twenty eight degrees and so you can't complain too much. As we move into the weekend, we'll start to move into some more summary where they're heading up to thirty two. Tomorrow's still going to be in some slightly blowy southeasterly winds, but as we move into Sunday, that's when we really get into the summer weather. Thirty six on the forecast, still sunny, and then moving into the new week, we stay warm, although we're going to see a cold front come through probably in the afternoon on Tuesday that could lead to possibly some rumbles up in the lofties are with a little bit of thunder and the slight chance of the shower, although we probably won't get much out of it, and then we'll go back to sort of this cooler weather, so very much in a bit of a repeating cycle, similar to what we've got the last couple of days. We'll see in the middle parts of our next week as well.
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Speaker 1: Good stuff, Daniel, thank you, have a great weekend. All right.
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Speaker 4: Let's say a say pole say Constable Matt Browns on the line. Matt, A drunk driver has crashed at the Craigmaar.
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Speaker 15: The's t ried well about ten pm last night. Police arrived at the scene of a crash on Yorktown Road where a car had collided with a roundabout at the intersection of Adams Road, then came to a stop nearby as it sustained extensive damage to the engine. The driver of forty one year old or Dinger Beach woman underwent a breast test and returned a positive reading of point one sixty six. She was reported for drink driving, driving without proper control, and driving unlicensed. She also can't drive anymore because the engine's fallen out of her car. But the woman was issued with a twelve month immediate loss of license notice and her car was towed from the scene, so she'll be summons to appear in court at a later date.
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Speaker 1: What are Yobo Matt? Also, a bloke's been arrested in Clinton in possession of stolen bankcards.
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Speaker 15: That's right about two am today, police conducted a check of a licensed premises on Anzac Highway at Clinton and when there they spoke to her twenty three year old man from Monopara and he actually had an outstanding warrant. His bag was searched and police located drug paraphernalia, suspected stolen bank cards, tools, torches, gloves and face masks. So he was charged with drug possession, unlawful possession, possessing the article to commit defenses as well as an unrelated theft madicter theft matter and he was refused by and will appear in court today. So some good work by patrols there.
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Speaker 4: Also met someone's car got broken into and some tools were pinched.
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Speaker 15: Oh that's right, Well, what a bit of a public safety messaging here. Police were called to Grave Street at Newton about three forty five am today where the owner reported awaking to the sound of their car alarm. When they went out to investigate, they found their car had been smashed and thousands of dollars worth of tools had been stolen. And police attended the Sourshi area but unfortunately unable to locate any suspects. And this comes after a report of another break into a car. Just after midnight on Thursday, the twelfth of February, police will call to Gorge Road, also at Newton after a pause. The two suspects had broken into a use while the owner was completing some building works and they located their use and the rear window had been smashed and once again thousands of dollars worth of tools and personal belongings had been stolen, and police attendant and search the area with police dog Griffin, but unfortunately unable to sniff out any suspects on that occasion. But we're just reminding everyone, not just a tradees and workers, but everyone who might think I'll just leave my laptop or drills or whatever I have in the back seat. You need to bring those inside and make sure they're secure, because if you don't lock it up, you'll lose it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Good, it's a good message. Good on you, Matt.
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Speaker 4: Thank you so you comes to a Matt Brown from a sapald don't make for your Friday the thirteenth an unlucky one. We're talking about superstitions this morning for the meat Trey. Thanks to Gramazio Foods Essays on Celiac Certified Butcher Burnside Village, Golden Grove and online at Gramaciofoods dot com dot you can get calling through with your superstitions eight double two to three double O, double O, and you might walk away at nine o'clock with that magnificent meat Trade five.
00:29:07
Speaker 3: Double a breakfast. David Penbervie and Will Goodings.
00:29:12
Speaker 1: Twenty one minutes to seven.
00:29:13
Speaker 4: The spill for the federal Liberal Party leadership will take place at eight thirty our time. That's in two hours time and an hour's time. Michael Packy will give us the inside running of what's likely to happen. Pack is connected as anyone in this country and will find out how I reckon an hour ahead of time, how this is likely to form. Michael Packy After seven point thirty, there's been no development, unfortunately, overnight in the search for Nancy Guthrie.
00:29:37
Speaker 1: In the United States.
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Speaker 4: There had been some hope with regard to a man that had been detained for questioning, but he was subsequently released and that line of inquiry appears to have been extinguished. So where two from here. Richard Rellis has been covering this story for the Arizona Republic and joins us on five double a Breakfast Now, Richard, good morning to you and thanks for your time.
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Speaker 8: In Good morning.
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Speaker 1: So, Richard, given the suspect that the police had when I'm sorry I have a night on both saying inn and fox talking about how I thought he's eyebrows was similar to the person saying on the on the on the doorstep. Does this mean that the authorities is effectively almost back at square one with nothing to go on.
00:30:21
Speaker 8: From our vantage point as observers, it does seem like, right, there's no there's no one they have in their sights, but we have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. There's still is activity. They're still gaining evidence. They've asked the public to re look at any security footage they have from a very specific day, ten days before the disappearance, and then anything on January thirty first from another timeframe, which also might think maybe they're narrowing down what a vehicle or something that they're trying to get at. They had a tent over the front door of Nancy Guthrie's home. Today, we have no idea what was going on in that tent, but right, are they trying to get forensic evidence that they didn't want the media to see. Are they trying to replicate darkness as you've probably seen the doorbell camera video where they trying to replicate what that looked like and put objects in that sort of condition to see if that's what it was. So there's a lot going on behind the scenes that maybe from our vantage point we're not able to see and it does feel like a step back. They also haven't completely whirled out the man in Rio Rico, and I was down there and talked to him at one in the morning Arizona time when they finally he cleared. He was released to his home and gone. But they said he was released, but they have not essentially said he's not part of the investigation still, even though he claims to not know anything about anything.
00:32:02
Speaker 1: Okay, so that guy who was effectively holding his own sort of one man press conference talking to the TVs. So he's not necessarily in the clear yet.
00:32:14
Speaker 8: Well, I mean again, like he's been released, he's not in custody, he's back home, his home is no longer you know, something that detectives are looking at. He says he has nothing to.
00:32:25
Speaker 1: Do with it.
00:32:25
Speaker 8: But again, we have to very carefully parse out what they're saying. The authority said he's been released, they haven't said he's been cleared. So is there a chance they think there's something there that he may have information? But they're not telling us why they stopped him. He said he didn't know why he was stopped. He works as a delivery driver. Did he deliver a package?
00:32:47
Speaker 1: You know?
00:32:48
Speaker 8: I mean he claimed to not know who Nancy Guthrie was or Savannah Guthrie, but right like it, I think, you know, it's frustrating, as you can imagine, authorities are telling us every step they're taking, so a lot of these answers we won't get until it's all resolved and then everything becomes clear. But right now it's still a waiting game, you know, where you know, being out on the scene watching the FBI agents walk through the desert, someone put it like, oh, almost like they're looking for a lost steering in the desert, you know. Apparently they found things in the desert around this neighborhood, including gloves, at least one glove.
00:33:31
Speaker 1: Wow. And has has it been proven? Oh, proven might be the wrong word. With the ransoms that were being sought, were they necessarily from people who are suspected to have been involved in the abduction, or rather, is there a possibility they could have just been people opportunistically got in touch with the family to try to make some money out of this.
00:33:54
Speaker 8: There definitely was one that authority said was a ruse, and they arrested a guy in California and have charged them with that. But again, as an observer, they seem to take very seriously at least one set of communications from someone who claimed to have held and it's probably the one that everyone's heard of, you know, someone who said they want cryptocurrency, and they said they talked about some deadlines. So they haven't said whether it's legitimate, but they certainly were acting as if it was. They were acting as if this was someone who might know something, and they were definitely interested in communications the Guthrie family. The videos they created, the first communications were all centered around trying to reach that one individual. Since then, the FBI has said, and again we have to parse the words carefully, they are not aware of continued communication between the Guthrie family and this support a person who wrote the ransom note. Does that mean there's no communication. Does that mean there was communication. We don't know, but right now it seems like there's not a lot more going on there. Savannah Guthries's newest videos are more aimed at the public, please help. She posted a video in the last few hours that was just old family movies of her as a little toddler, a little girl with her mother at this you know what looks like that same home. You know the mom has lived there since nineteen seventy five, is where she raised the Guthries. So just trying to still, you know, keep the public's interest and asking anyone if they've seen anything to please contact.
00:35:46
Speaker 1: Abilities Richard Roellis. We really appreciate you time, Richard. It's a huge story getting a big amount of coverage here in Australia too. But thanks for taking Tom out from the coverage to join us here in Australia. Thank you, Mike. Forteen minutes to seven.
00:36:01
Speaker 4: We should probably stop being shocked by the depths to which humanity can on occasion plummet. But my word, imagine watching a new service or however you get your information finding out someone is going through an abduction situation and thinking, well, here's an opportunity.
00:36:17
Speaker 1: It's disgusting and that what sort of a scum mag they have to be.
00:36:22
Speaker 4: It's just it's hard to get your head around. Thirty to seven, let's talk about the weather today and over the course of the weekend. Daniel Sherwin Simpson at the Weather Bureau joins this morning here.
00:36:30
Speaker 14: Daniel, good morning, David and Will So.
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Speaker 4: Still a little bit cooler than what we've experienced today, but looks like it's warming back up.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, it looks a bit cooler today, twenty eight degrees though, so not too much to complain about, although or a bit of a cooler start. I still sit in at around fourteen degrees in the city and we've got a little bit of southeasterly wind coming down over the lofties which is probably bringing the fields like down a couple of extra degrees as well. But as I said, gein up to twenty eight degrees, so you can't complain too much. As we move into the weekend, we'll start to move into some more summary where they're heading up to thirty two tomorrow, still going to be in some slightly blowy southeasterly winds, but as we move into Sunday, that's when we really get into the summer weather. Thirty six on the forecast, still sunny, and then moving into the new week, we stay warm, although we're going to see a cold front come through probably in the afternoon on Tuesday. That could lead to possibly some rumbles up in the lofties with a little bit of thunder and the slight chance of the shower, although we probably won't get much out of it. And then we'll go back to sort of this cooler weather, so very much in a bit of a repeating cycle, similar to what we've got the last couple of days. We'll see in the middle parts of our next week as well.
00:37:40
Speaker 1: Good stuff, Daniel, thank you, have a great weekend.
00:37:42
Speaker 4: All right, let's say a saye'll say he comes to a Matt Browns and the line Matt, a drunk driver has crashed at Craigmar that's ried.
00:37:49
Speaker 15: We'll About ten pm last night, police arrived at the scene of a crash on Yorktown Road, where a car had collided with a roundabout at the intersection of Adams Road, then came to a stop nearby as it's gained extensive damage to the engine. The driver of forty one year old or Dinger Beach woman underwent a breath test and returned a positive reading ofer point one sixty six. She was reported for drink driving, driving without proper control, and driving unlicensed. She also can't drive any more because the engine's fallen out of her car. But the woman was issued with a twelve month immediate loss of license notice and her car was towed from the scene, so she'll be summons to appear in court at a later date.
00:38:24
Speaker 1: What are yourvo Matt. Also, a bloke's been arrested in Clinton in possession of stolen bank cards.
00:38:31
Speaker 14: That's right.
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Speaker 15: About two am today police conducted a check of a licensed premises on AAZAC Highway at Clinton and when there they spoke to a twenty three year old man from Monopara and he actually had an outstanding warrant. His bag was searched and police located a drug paraphernalia, suspected stolen bank cards, tools, torches, gloves and face masks. So she was charged with drug possession, unlawful possession, possessing article to commit offenses as well as an unrelated theft madicor theft and he was refused to bow and will appear in court today. So some good work by patrols there.
00:39:05
Speaker 4: Also met someone's car got broken into and some tools were pinched.
00:39:10
Speaker 15: Oh that's right. Well a bit of a public safety messaging here. Police were call to Grave Street at Newton about three point forty five am today where the owner had reported awaking to the sound of their car alarm. When they went out to investigate, they found their car had been smashed and thousands of dollars worth of tools had been stolen and police attendant and searched the area, but unfortunately unable to locate any suspects. And this comes after a report of another break into a car. Just after midnight on Thursday, the twelfth of February, police were call to Gorge Road, also at Newton after a pause. The two suspects had broken into a ute while the owner was completing some building works and they'd located their use and the rear window had been smashed and once again thousands of dollars worth of tools and personal belongings had been stolen and police attendant and searched the area with police dog Griffin, but unfortunately unable to if I had any suspects on that occasion. But we're just reminding everyone, not just a tradees and workers, but everyone who might think I'll just leave my laptop or drills or whatever I have in the back seat. You need to bring those inside and make sure they're secure, because if you don't lock it up, you'll lose it.
00:40:18
Speaker 1: Yeah. Good, it's a good message. Good on you, Matt.
00:40:20
Speaker 4: Thank you so you Constable Matt Brown from a SAPIALD. Don't make for your Friday the thirteenth, an unlucky one. We're talking about superstitions this morning for the meat tray. Thanks to Gramazio Foods essays own Celiac certified butcher, Burnside Village, Golden Grove and online at Grammatiofoods dot com dot A, you can get calling through with your superstitions eight double two three double O, double O and you might walk away at nine o'clock with that magnificent meat trade.
00:40:46
Speaker 3: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
00:40:55
Speaker 4: Six minutes to seven. Not great news for our freeway commuters in the hills. Just got some news through out of Krafer's. A huge oil taker as broken down. It stopped right before the cameras as you come to the bend on the left hand lane. It's just happened, and the expectation is that we will cause delays over the course of the morning.
00:41:15
Speaker 1: It's every other day, isn't it. It get quite literally on average, like the last fortnight, I reckon, there's been five days where it's been cactus on the freeway. If we wanted to talk about the most newsworthy development on the freeway, it should probably be the days there's nothing to report. Yeah, totally. Just take it as read.
00:41:29
Speaker 4: There's a breakdown or a crash that it's causing issues. Mountain text people texting with their superstitions. I like this one from Andrew when booking airline tickets. I was two seats and I was twenty seven, which is my birthday, and either A or F for a window seat there behind the wing, so I get to walk across the tarmac, past the aircraft, up the stairs and into the back door. And Rob says, my wife only has things in odd numbers, not two lollies, but three, five or seven, like you Dave. But my question is when is when is it a superstition? And when if you crossed over to obsessive compulsive. That's a good question.
00:42:05
Speaker 1: It could be a.
00:42:06
Speaker 4: Question for our next guest, who as one of the best sounding master's degrees I've heard. Kylie Sturgis is a communications lecturer, has a master's degree in paranormal and pseudo scientific belief in Australians, which I think is a target rich environment. In twenty twenty six, Kylie Sturgis, good morning to you and welcome to the program.
00:42:23
Speaker 5: Good morning and happy Powa Trektor Truska tecophobia days.
00:42:30
Speaker 1: We were just trying to work that one out earlier, Kylie. But what's the sort of basis for superstition and is it something that you think is almost within us because it's been in humanity since the dawn of time, hasn't it?
00:42:46
Speaker 5: Absolutely, you'd be surprised how many of us have superstitious behavior, even if we don't consider ourself superstitious. You might be crossing your fingers for luck avoiding walking under ladders, which quite frankly sounds sensible. Some people might be a bit worried about black cats, certain colors, certain numbers, going into exam, you get into a certain ritual, or going onto a stage or onto a tennis court. If there's something that worries us, more likely you're going to find.
00:43:10
Speaker 16: Some sort of superstitious behavior involved.
00:43:13
Speaker 1: We've been talking to about things that might not be They might feel like superstitions, but maybe they're a little obsessive, compulsive glimpses, like being obsessed with numbers in a certain order, eating certain numbers of things. What is the distinction or is there no distinction between that type of behavior and the supertition.
00:43:33
Speaker 5: Well, you can get an excessive belief and reverence for the supernatural that might be expressed through behavior or a lack of it. And when it starts crossing the border into completely controlling you, that's when we do start getting worried. And there could be all kinds of factors that can lead to it becoming excessive. There might be concerns, rituals, communities can certainly contribute to this kind of excessiveness. But ultimately, I think that doing what we're doing right now, which is talking about it, maybe debunking some of the harsher elements of it, encouraging people to be able to think about it and see whether or not it really does control you or is it something that well, it can just be a quirky element of the patent seeking preaches that we are.
00:44:19
Speaker 4: That's on that point, patent seeking trying to sort of learn from the environment and what repeats and what doesn't. The concept of the superstition a feature or a bug?
00:44:28
Speaker 5: Do you think I think it is a feature. Let's face it, As Tim Menshin once said, we are all just monkeys wearing shoes, aren't we. Superstitions can calm you down, They can help you make decisions, It can help you be a part.
00:44:43
Speaker 10: Of a group.
00:44:43
Speaker 5: There's lots of communities that bond over superstitions, and I'm certain there's plenty of people out there who really want to be a part of their culture and traditions, and I think of superstitions as being a part of that. Of course, it can lead to anxiety, overwhelming fear, and people can ostracize or hurt others if there's overwhelming elements of superstitions, But people can find excuses to be nasty to each other no matter what. We know this, so superstitions can help with a sense of control. What ends up being controlled is another question.
00:45:12
Speaker 1: Fascinating chat Kylie Sturgis communications lecture, has a master's degree in paranormal and pseudo scientific belief in Australians. I like that scene right at the end of Goodfellas when Henry Hill played by Railey Eta, he's got the babysitter all worded up to take the drugs to the airport and she just goes, oh, I haven't got my lucky hat. Is what are you talking about? And she's got this implacable look on her face. She just goes, it's my lucky hat. I can't flay without it. And then he runs out to get it to pro tag her in the car and the house is swarming with police.
00:45:48
Speaker 4: I do like Kylie's description that she painted a picture. There's a final line that I think most people acknowledged between the dope move seats our football teams ahead by three goals and the rigorous adherence to routine before going to work in the morning, Like those two things are Actually it's just your brain making sense of the world, and we kind of see one as more logical than the other, but really it's sort of we're trying to make sense of things and trying to have some stability in decision making. And maybe we shouldn't be laughing at people that have funny little superstitions in quirs because everyone's got it. Some of us just call it routine. Yeah, eight, double two three, double O, double A. Yours could win you a Gramazio Foods meat tray, So get calling now, David Penburbie and wild Goodings five double A breakfast.
00:46:40
Speaker 1: Seven out to seven. Good morning too.
00:46:41
Speaker 4: If you're joining us for the first time, and there's a Friday, the thirteenth of Febue the thirteenth informing the Gramazio foods meat tray. Todays we ask you about your superstitions, and as Kylie Stir just told us before the breakdown, they are a feature, not a bug, of your patent pattern recognizing brain. So don't be embarrassed by your superstitions. And today they might just win you a meat tray on eight double two three at Double Double Michael Paki in the nation's capital. After seven thirty today, it would. Most insiders are saying that Angus Taylor has the numbers for the eight thirty am Adelaide time leadership spill.
00:47:17
Speaker 1: This feels like an episode of Blue Hills, doesn't it. It feels like it's been going on for months. It does. Yeah, really well, at least it ends for now. Yeah in an hour.
00:47:27
Speaker 4: Well I've got an hour run twenty three minutes.
00:47:30
Speaker 1: And for the South Australian limpoals, who I think had just an unbelievably bad day yesterday with that water stuff. Well not that Labour needs to kill a blow. No, if they did, that was it? Don't you think it wasn't great? I know that there's a lot of people that go, well, hang on Labour's light about ramping, and that is true.
00:47:51
Speaker 4: Just that way set it up for our listeners that they are n't aware with the because a few people teach saying, what was this killer audio that was released, and it was it was a party room discussion about the acting of a policy that the state Liberals had regarding water bill relief, and they it was a policy originally to.
00:48:10
Speaker 1: Was it was Actually the audio was from an industry event, a water industry event on Wednesday, where the Liberals shadow spokeswoman for water, Nicolas senta Fandy, told this event that the Liberals commitment to reverse the three point five percent water bill increase would not be taken in the election and that you know, obviously there's budgery pressures, and like there's actually a perfectly rational, logical, defensible argument for it, except for the fact that all the Liberal candidates on the election material are telling people in their flyers that are going into ladder boxes and so forth, if elected a her liberal government will cut what's the figure, seventy five dollars, Yeah, they'll reduce the rise the bill, they'll yeah, so it's a half a billion dollar promise. Well, they're not doing it well for that to happen in the middle of the campaign.
00:49:05
Speaker 4: And that's just a total tactical misstep because they had the perfect opportunity and they did this with regard to stamp duty. Change of leadership were reviewed, all the policies, this new suite of policies now reflects the circumstance that we find ourselves in blah blah blah, labor stuff, the budget, blah blah blah. But they had an opportunity to do it when the leadership change happened. Yeah, yeah, and they did it with the stamp duney stuff.
00:49:28
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. So this is just sneak overal stuff up privately at an industry event when they've got candidates campaigning saying they'll do it now what I was saying though, and you look at the comments online and obviously there's a lot of people out there who are the people who do still support the Liberals going, well, okay, Labour said they were going to get rid of ramping. What's happened with that? Labour said they were going to build a hydrogen plant. What's happened with that? So that's that's the counter attack and it's effective up to a point. The problem for the Libs though, is it makes gives labor the chance to go. People are just making this up as you're going along in the middle of a campaign. How do we know what's in and what's out anymore? And that's an issue for undecided voters. But as we said at the start, it feels like there's not many of them. Lest I can't but maybe the one good thing that will come out of the leadership stuff this morning for the s A Libs is it. At least it will get it off the nightly news, we get it out of the newspaper and they'll have a bit of clear air and use the remaining thirty five days to really land some punches.
00:50:35
Speaker 4: Or at least some calm, maybe not destroying the brand any further and making saulting the earth thrash and hearn in his last few in that last month, there's going to be a big story. I suspect that it is going to develop over the course of today when a man appears in the Port Adelaide Magistrates Court after what sounds like a horrific attack on a on bus number one one seven from this CBD to the Western subs on Monday. Deana Wiams has been covering this story for seven years do good morning for our Lista's unaware and I know I appreciate the details a scant, but the age of the alleged victim and the nature of the alleged defending this is going to be something and I think a lot of people are going to be talking about good morning boys.
00:51:19
Speaker 17: Yes, rather a concerning event that happened on Monday afternoon around three thirty. Police are telling us that a teenage girl, quite a young teenage girl, so we're looking at the sort of the lower end of her teenage life, are sexually assaulted by a man she does not know, traveling on a public bus towards the western suburbs from the city. That is the information that police are giving us. That that's going to great pains to tell us that this is someone she does not know. It's at that time of the day, three thirty in the afternoon. You can sort of suspect that maybe she was heading home from schools sexually assaulted on the bars. Stad since arrested a thirty three year old man and open address, but he's from Sindon, so he was arrested yesterday. This happened Monday. He was arrested yesterday and he's going to appear in court tomorrow charged with child's sex offenses. This is rather concerning a public bus at that kind of the day. You would have thought that a bus would be quite packed with kids, packed with adults. We've been told that people saw her and weaknesses saw the young girl get off the bus, and she was visibly upset, and obviously she went to police. This is really rather concerning, isn't it moral? A young girl trappling by herself, obviously on a public bus.
00:52:38
Speaker 1: Just terrific. That is extraordinary, just disgusting. You'd think these days like there'd be footage of it, like, you know, hopefully, Well maybe that's why they hapul to catch up with the guy so quickly.
00:52:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but it is every That story is is every parents worst nightmare. Yeah, as Day says, and thank you for that day.
00:52:55
Speaker 1: Day.
00:52:55
Speaker 4: We're being caught a little bit later today, so we're the latest on seven US tonight. You'd like to think in a place like Adelaide, there's nothing safer and than jumping on a bus at three point thirty in the afternoon from the city. Just about every element of this is the most normal version of this.
00:53:13
Speaker 1: And at that age you know, when your kids are at high school, it's not like derelic parenting. It's perfectly normal for kids to catch the bus because you don't think that things like that are going to happen.
00:53:24
Speaker 4: Public transport needs to be safe. Yeah, These kind of stories, beyond the horrors for the individuals involved, I think, do a reparable damage to people's faith in taking public transport.
00:53:33
Speaker 1: Into the future.
00:53:34
Speaker 4: This story is going to be a big one today, so you'll be able to follow it on five to Blair Cross the Day and then seven tonight the Meet Trey thanks to Gramazio Foods eight double two to three double O double talking Superstitions. Jeanette and Selex Beach, good.
00:53:49
Speaker 18: Morning, oh, good morning. The number thirteen has always been lucky for the Rothwell family. My father in law was a real gunner in jeep George Bauma Lancaster, and he did thirty missions over Berlin and quite often if we get a table at restaurant or a cafe, it will be number thirteen. And if we buys of any sort, I deliberately choose thirty. And it's just been very lucky for us. People avoid it, but we don't.
00:54:16
Speaker 1: Are you and are you an odd numbers person to Jeanette, do you prefer odd numbers to even numbers?
00:54:22
Speaker 18: No, I don't. My lucky number is usually four, okay. And also I'd like to comment about the poor girl on the bus. I really think they should bring back come conductors. People walking up and down like the driver can only drive, you can't do anything else.
00:54:39
Speaker 1: Yep.
00:54:40
Speaker 18: And you know there's been even school buses, like, you know, kids acting up, and they should just put more people in work and put conductors back on.
00:54:48
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's good to thank you guys, Jeanette. Thanks Jeanette.
00:54:52
Speaker 4: I think people, I think the presence of some form of security or something would be terrific. But what is what has recent history taught us about the powers or the lack thereof for security guards to intervene in these sorts of I mean, they provide a deterrent just by being there, obviously, but this is Adelaide at three point thirty pm on a weekday. You would have thought the deterrent is a bus full of people.
00:55:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, not even fool even if just a few people, just a few people, Well, it's just disgusting, isn't it. Unbelievable? Throat the cook at this bastard.
00:55:24
Speaker 4: There's something, there is something wrong with the experience of wandering around the Adelaide CBD these days. I don't know what they I don't know what the history of the person obviously in they're about to turn up and court we'll find a bit more about that. But you don't have to walk too many blocks to the city of Adelaide these days to see someone stone out of their brain, twitching like a zombie, shouting abuse.
00:55:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's I think our city is actually and it's not alone in this, but I think Adelaide, the center of Adelaide, has got real problems. I think I had dinner with a mate last week in King William Street and I was it was a Thursday, it was a Wednesday night, so there weren't that many people around. The only people who are around after nine o'clock in King William Street felt like they were all potential trouble. You know, when I was getting an urber back home and no sorry, I was walking. My mate dropped me off, so walking back to his car and you know, he's like me, He's not a tiny blake, he's not someone who's nervous. But were walking around, and I said, because his office was in the city for I said, the city kind of unpleasant, isn't it? At night? If you're away from Peel Street and the middle bit of Rundle Street or good Your Street, Suddenly there's a bit of edge to it. And I reckon part of it too, is that is the neglect of buildings like King William Street, This semity building, this is meant to be our Adelaide's own Champs Elise. King William Street looks like garbage. It's really bad that what's meant to be our grandest avenue has got two dollars shops. It's got a lot of setback porticos, entry points to buildings that have just got people in their sleeping rough people, and they're more often than not sleeping rough people, and they're off their faces on meth.
00:57:35
Speaker 14: Now.
00:57:35
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's on the council, if it's on the state government, what can be done to fix it? But it's there's nothing inviting about it.
00:57:44
Speaker 4: No, it's more surprising if you walk three blocks and there's nothing that makes you go, oh, I might cross the street here.
00:57:54
Speaker 1: You know what's really interesting. George Street in Sydney. For a long time it looked like it looked like Times Square, almost out a taxi driver. George Street in Sydney is absolutely stunning now what they've done, and so much of it is from putting the tram all the way through it, but they've put in all this green space. I mean, I know there's had a few problems lately with protesters, but setting that aside, it is absolutely amazing. Like people gravitate to it because it's got so many food options and.
00:58:22
Speaker 4: Cat well bar those places you described in the city of Adelaide, what do they have in common with the George Street They tracked people. The areas people want to be in tend to be free of miscreant sort of behavior. Yeah, but there's a limited What do you think folks give us a call? Yeah, eight double two three double double or textas on zero before zero eight thirty ninety five, Like Phil did it, say's even driving through the city. I locked my doors these days, Phil, thank you for that. We'll get to some more thoughts in just a moment.
00:58:53
Speaker 3: Five double a breakfast Deevid Penberthy and Will Goodings.
00:59:02
Speaker 4: Twenty three minutes after seven, Michael Packy in the nation's capital after seven point thirty, that'll be about an hour out from the LIB leadership spill. We're talking about safety in the city following that horrific story involving a we don't know the specific age, but a school age, a teenage, a young teenage court. According to police, girl caught the one to one to seven bus from the city to the western suburbs at three point thirty pm on a week day and was assaulted, sexually assaulted by a man who's subsequently been arrested. Will appear in court today. But it started a broader conversation around how safety you feel in the city at the moment. And I think the short answer is not particularly safe.
00:59:40
Speaker 1: And people don't like it. People are saying things like it feels dirty, it feels ugly, it doesn't feel inviting. Joe, what do you think?
00:59:48
Speaker 19: Yeah, guys, the issue is getting out of hand. This is a perfect political issue. I haven't heard one politician ever in the last probably five years, ever raised this issue about safety in Adelaide, and it's getting out of hand. Dave, you hit the nil on the head when you said you walk down the street and there's myths everywhere. It dies off their faces. What has a politician stood up and said he's going to attack that issue. This is what we've got and if you have a look at what's happened in Victoria, we're on the same course where you can't even walk at night right without the fear of being attacked, being king hit. I was in New York a couple of years ago and at three o'clock in the morning walking down Seventh Avenue, I felt as safe as anything. I come back to Adelaide, I'm too scared to walk down high in the street at around ten o'clock at night with the fear of getting king hit out of control. This is a political issue and if I was an advisor to the Liberal Party with the three issues that they should be looking at, think in roads and the election is power and safety on the roads for South Australias.
01:01:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, good on you, Joe, Thanks, Joe, Well said. I think the thing is that the recent crime statistics though show that most categories of crime have gone down. But what it feels like though is that there's localized problems within the city because the parts of the city that feel okay, but then there's vast parts of it they just feel like a wind swept dump of a place that is messy. It doesn't have the retail activity. To Jay's point two, part of it is getting more people into the city. The more people there are, the better. It is.
01:01:35
Speaker 4: One of the weaknesses of like a net statistic, like a crime stat too, is there's no counterfacture. If there's a dodgy part of town that people start avoiding because there's dodgy characters hanging around, there's less crime there, but there's not the less The potential for crimes not lower, just that people have adjusted their behavior so they don't go through the square where there's people that are probably more likely than average to assault you are, so bolts aren't down.
01:02:01
Speaker 1: No, Well, we did that thing about Whitmore Square the other day and since then I've heard there has been a meeting with the government and I think representatives of the police about it, after the concerns were raised by the residents there. One message from Craig he says, I totally agree Fellows Adelaide's CBD. He is grubby. There's rubbish everywhere. What happened to Key sad strange behavior from giermany random people. I was asked by some guy that was clearly impacted by something to go with him. While I was minding my own business in a food court last Saturday. Working in the CBD, I see all sorts of strange behavior every day I go out for break. The mood in the city has become very different. David from Lim Mitcham says, I feel less safe in the Adelaide's CBD after ours that I'm doing Sydney. I agree that it does always feel on edge. A lot of messages along those.
01:02:46
Speaker 4: To Joe's point in some of those others as well, this is a labor force issue. You go to New York, there'll be you'll see a police officer in just about every block. Certainly late at night. They stand on the street corner just there being present. There's no cd IS with the police here. There's just not enough of them.
01:03:02
Speaker 1: Speaking about the podcast with.
01:03:05
Speaker 3: Tim ginnever on Fine double a Breakfast, all right, let's talk sport.
01:03:11
Speaker 1: The weekend ahead.
01:03:13
Speaker 4: Tim Ginnifer joins us. Historically he's been known as a port Adelaide great. He's now known as a golfing great. Timmy, good morning to you, Yes, good morning, gentlemen. I hope all's well.
01:03:24
Speaker 12: I'm not sure I can claim that title. I was up on the first tee to tee off and there was a few people hanging around. Unfortunately, two of them were friends of mine, well so called friends, and I went to tea off, and just as I was about to tee off, I heard jackass and it was very.
01:03:50
Speaker 4: Anyway.
01:03:50
Speaker 1: I got a way.
01:03:51
Speaker 12: I've hit it down the middle of you, beauty. Anyone on the third hole, they're still there, and I go to tea off and I've whacked it straight into a tree. And all I heard was the dry voice of my mate, who said, yeah, that's what we came to see.
01:04:09
Speaker 4: I saw some parts that looked to me I thought they were AI, but Tuger's doed me. It really happened. You were sinking fifteen foot is you're short? Was immaculate, look Spectacus.
01:04:17
Speaker 12: It certainly was, and I was very excited about it. It was contributing to a team that was unbelievably far better than I was. And our pro were to watch. We had one pro for nine holes and then another pro for the back nine. And what they were doing was they would put out, they would go over to the side while the three of us are trying to work out he's going to go next, and they would just grab four or five balls and start chipping up onto the green. They'd throw a few into the bunkers, start getting out of the bunker and they could do all this while we were mucking around the Punton. It was unbelievable, So was it, Ambrose Jim No, what the advantage was you took the best drive. So if the pro's drive was the best, which you know nine out of ten it is, you take his drive and then you're on your own, all of you on your own. So it was a bit of an advantage. And yeah, it was a bit of an advantage to take away the bad drive that can put you into trees and other places you shouldn't be.
01:05:17
Speaker 1: You played.
01:05:19
Speaker 12: No, I'm not anywhere near long enough. Plus the guy we had a guy in our team and mate of Jordan Marshall's. His name was Shippy. He was off about maybe six or seven and he could smack it. He outdrove the pro two or three times.
01:05:36
Speaker 1: We got Winter Olympic.
01:05:37
Speaker 12: Gold at last. Honestly, boys, for a minute there I thought we were going as Australia. We're gonna have to drop our decks and go around the pool table because we had done we had nothing in the cupboard, absolutely nothing. But how good a win was that. I watched his trials first I thought, Jesus, kid's got a right. Cooper Woods is one gold in the How tough at the vent does that look? I mean, what party and knees or hips are going to be left after doing that for about ten years? That is Oh mate, what a tough event that is. But he's one gold. It's so excited. We've got Scotty James a big chance on Saturday. Watching him and his trolls. Wow, he's just making it look so easy. So it's pretty exciting.
01:06:21
Speaker 15: Now.
01:06:21
Speaker 12: It'd be nice to get a couple of gold in the cupboard.
01:06:24
Speaker 1: Certainly would be good on your temm. Thanks Tim oh Rope.
01:06:30
Speaker 3: Dvid pen Berthe and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
01:06:38
Speaker 1: Twenty minutes to Michael Packy in the nation's capital.
01:06:40
Speaker 4: Shortly bit of an opportunity to stoke some nationalistic pride this morning, David, I having just chatted with Timmy g about Cooper Woods heroics as our gold medalist. Yes in the Winter Olympics. Have you had a peruse of the medal table this morning. Well, we know got one goal, We've got a gold. Do you know where that put who? That puts us ahead of the USA? Finland, A lot of snow there, Belgium, Bulgaria, the Poles, Latvia, New Zealand, China, China, China, China, practice your skiing, China.
01:07:20
Speaker 1: How about this one? Canada?
01:07:23
Speaker 4: Canada, We're ahead of Canada. Canada is covered in snow. Just end, just end the Olympics now, don't stop them, just stop it. Yeah, you're embarrassing yourselves. Other countries exactly. Most of us here have never been seen snow.
01:07:34
Speaker 1: We've just you know, everyone knows we are the home of winter sports, and the medal tally reflects that.
01:07:42
Speaker 4: She don't I think we're out of the UK. They're not even I can only see countries that do have that have received a medal or achieved a medal.
01:07:49
Speaker 1: So the mogals. That's the scheme one where you sort of go side to side, isn't it. Look I'm not gonna bring this is the whole point of this exercises.
01:07:56
Speaker 4: I don't have a clue. I don't know how any of this stuff works. All I know we're out of Canada, Regina right now, or we know is we're the best exactly right. We just keep winning so much winning, you're gonna get sick of the winning.
01:08:09
Speaker 1: That's what.
01:08:11
Speaker 4: The greatest Window Olympics country on Earth, well except for the thirteen that are above us, but other than that you are pretty good. All right, Let's head to the nation's capital where politically things are heading up in about an hour's time. In fat under an hour's time now, the Liberal Party will meet to decide the leadership Angus Taylor Susan Lee. It's a battle on for the deputy positions as well. Michael Packy for nine Radio has the inside word on all this morning here.
01:08:36
Speaker 16: Michael, good morning guys.
01:08:38
Speaker 1: Does it look like a foregone conclusion to you in our pack that it will be Angus Taylor.
01:08:42
Speaker 16: Yeah, Look that's what it does appear like. You've got the MP's and senators arriving at their respective doors here at Parliament House this morning, getting ready for this meeting. But it does appear that the numbers are swinging Angus Taylor's way. Although if you talk to some of the LEA supporters and I had to chat to a few of them even late last night, they're saying it's not a foregone conclusion and that it could the result could be a lot tighter than we actually think. Some of them are saying, yeah, look, Angus Taylor is just a nose ahead, and I would argue, is that actually a good thing? So if Angus Taylor does win this leadership spell this morning, and you know, by about let's say, two or three votes, doesn't that just show that the party is going to continue to be divided. You would think that if he does win this spill, he needs to win it by a fair whack, a fair chunk of that party room needs to come along with him to give him some sort of authority and mandate to be able to run the party. But you do have some people saying, look, we do think that Taylor will get over the line, but don't think that it's going to be some massive result for him.
01:09:52
Speaker 1: What's you sort of vision? The vision part of it? I saw Andrew Bolt had a massive cracket in the other night where basically said, well, this guy's announced that he's going to run, but he hasn't said anything about why he wants to run, about what he's proposing. I mean, he made that comment about we need to defend Australia's way of life. I know what that means in a material sense, or is it more sort of you know, watch this space. Oh, in the leadership then you'll get my sort of manifesto.
01:10:23
Speaker 16: It could be a bit of that, but a lot of it. I thought when he announced a few nights ago that he was resigning from his front bench position as the Shadow Defense Spokesman and then announced that he would run for the leadership, I thought it was all full of motherhood statements. It all motherhood statements. A lot of it was like, oh, we want to get back to Australian values, Well what are they? We want? You know, we want to Australians have a better way of life, this, that and the other. That's all well and good, but it also opens up attacks of him by Labor and we saw that through question time over of course of this week, especially yesterday, they went really hard on his record as Energy Minister, then his record as the Shadow Treasurer in which he opposed tax cuts. So you can see that sort of stuff is going to continue coming up. And I would even argue there's even people within the Liberal Party that actually don't know what he stands for. There was I heard an interesting quip last night from someone who said, look, you know, Angus Taylor went and saw them. You know, he you know, he made a few, you know, made a few references about what he would do and what he wouldn't do. They said that those references were fairly incoherent, but they were going to vote for Angus Taylor anyway because because they thought they couldn't continue with Susan Lee given how bad the polls are. So, you know, I don't even think that there's a ringing endorsement for Angus Taylor to take on this job, even within his own ranks, but they're going to give him the job because things are so bad for the party.
01:12:05
Speaker 1: Your knowledge of Susan Lee, I'm sure you've spoken to her many times, Michael. I think we've only ever interviewed her once or twice, so we don't have any particular major insight into her. But does she strike you as someone who would go quietly in the event that she loses, or do you think that she'll want to throw a few at Haymakers on the way out.
01:12:28
Speaker 16: Look, she may, you know, she may throw a few bombs on the way out, but I think she'll go relatively quite quietly. Look from what i know of Susan Lee, and I've had some interactions with her in her various portfolios when she was in government and a little bit since she's been the opposition leader. Look, she's quite good and there's no doubt that she's worked hard. But even at most ardent supporters would tell you privately that mistakes have been made and that things could have been handled differently. And we've seen that through her nine and months tenure in that top job, where she said few things which you think really but overall, she is a hard worker and she does think things through, and she's, you know, like Angus Taylor. She's a feeling intelligent woman. She's got a lot of good policy background behind her. But that doesn't mean that either Angus Taylor or Susan Lee there might be intelligent people with policy credentials behind them. The problem is they can'tcel that to the public. They haven't got that cut through. I think that what will be interesting to see with Susan Lee is that if she loses today's leadership spill, if she decides to resign and force a by election in that idea well of Farah, because I think that if she forces a by election in Parah, the Liberals will.
01:13:44
Speaker 1: Lose that One Nation and probably with at the moment, wouldn't.
01:13:46
Speaker 16: They potentially And I've heard that One Nation is starting to make a bit of noise around that district.
01:13:53
Speaker 1: But I think that which is the river, isn't it?
01:13:56
Speaker 16: Yeah, the River Arena, there's.
01:14:00
Speaker 1: All those sorts of towns. That's right, Jim Fisher Country and.
01:14:05
Speaker 16: That's right, that's exactly right. It was Kim Fisher Country, the former Nationals leader. And you know that's why. You know she's also faced a tough time with the Nationals because a Liberal holds a seat which used to be in National's territory. But I think that the Nationals would struggle, the Liberals would struggle. One Nation could have a chance. But I do think that last election she was up against an independent, and that independent did pretty well up against her in the May election of last year. So you wouldn't be surprised if that independent puts their hand up again if she decides to leave, and potentially we could see another seat lost to the Liberals and the cross bench widened.
01:14:47
Speaker 4: Michael sounds like John Hume's going to throw a hat in the ring for the deputy leadership role. So she's confirmed that what's the who else is going to be contesting?
01:14:56
Speaker 16: Look, you'd see assume that the current deputy tedo Bryan, may put his hand up for the job. Soul that could be up there, So Jane Hume, ted O'Brien, potentially another MP from Victoria called Zoe McKenzie. There seemed to be the names that are bandied around. But I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised if the joint leadership ticket ends up becoming Taylor as leader Humor's deputy. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what ends up transpiring in another couple of hours once the leadership spill is had. Because Jane Hume is also she's a moderate, but she's a very good TV performer and she's a good communicator. But she's going to be targeted over work from home because she at the last election, she was the one that was selling that, you know, work from home policy in you know, suggesting that there should be less of it.
01:15:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, we sh didn't work very well. Pack. We know you flat out mate, So thanks for taking out of busy schedule to talk to us out here in the provinces. Michael Packie, Radio's political reporter, to tell you what you don't want.
01:16:05
Speaker 4: Phil Courry writing your job application for you if he doesn't think you're up to it. He's written in the Fin Review our man Phil, who were chatting with on Tuesday this morning. In the Fin Review of Angus Taylor quote, while he has extensive experience, he's saddled by being a poor communicator and poor at politics, much in the mold of fellow Rhodes scholar Malcolm Turnbull.
01:16:27
Speaker 1: Oh that's not a good comparison. Crikey. They've just got an all knuckle down, don't they, and swing the focus the other ways. It's a target rich environment attacking the album easy.
01:16:42
Speaker 4: It's almost never been simpler and that's why one nation send it at the moment because the key issues in Australia right now have crystallized around would have sort of been their bedrock, immigration, cost of living, power prices.
01:17:00
Speaker 1: This is it.
01:17:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is all we need to talk about. Except the problem for the Libs is power is problematic for them. Well, the economy shouldn't be the economy should be there.
01:17:12
Speaker 1: One would power should be something that they can get their house in order on a campaign on as well. Problem for the Libs is what's their position on immigration, because I know that it's hugely popular right now with the hell of all other people to say that that's it we've had there's just too many people, but it's not logical. It is it is. There are problems with immigration that need to be fixed, i e. Housing, there are some problems that go to assimilation and the type of migrants where we're bringing in, and there needs to be much more robust and less politically correct discussion around that. But if Australia didn't have any migrants, it would collapse in a heat.
01:18:00
Speaker 4: Or certainly I wouldn't want to be an older Australian in the absence of migration at the moment.
01:18:04
Speaker 1: There's a piece today in the TiSER that is superb about all of these Indian people and Nepalese people are moving to Port Augusta to do social work, to go and work at the hospitals or all this stuff, that there's just not enough people here to do that. So because there's people in the Liberal Party who are demonstrably intelligent and who also represent the needs of business. You know, they can't have a chest thumping discission about immigration where they try to do exactly the same as Pauline because it's just dumb. Yeah, their base will say, what are you guys doing. Pauline still bring one hundred and thirty three thousand visas every year.
01:18:42
Speaker 4: By the way, Yeah, well, but I don't think anyone ever recognizes that because people don't typically go go and read the policy documents.
01:18:48
Speaker 7: But.
01:18:51
Speaker 1: They just need to.
01:18:51
Speaker 4: They need to advocate for smarter immigration. I think you can do two things at the same time. We need fewer people that ultimately become welfare depending or in working industries that are in low demand. We don't need that. I think that's where you can say we are removing that number the Japanese example that we spoke about earlier in the week. We're doing it smarter, we're doing it better, meaning people that want to be here in industries where we desperately need them. But that's it now, we're not doing the rest.
01:19:20
Speaker 1: But on debt, on spending, well, they should just big smashing labor on interest rates, I mean rates go up and on that day the limbs of the story, Yeah, because they're all that the old and press conference is about how they're going to knock each other off. It's time to flashback with Michael Smith.
01:19:46
Speaker 4: Yes seven years flashback segments Sunday nights from six o'clock.
01:19:49
Speaker 1: Michael Smith jumps in the time machine.
01:19:51
Speaker 7: Good morning to you, Michael, Good morning, Will and David. There are a number of TV commercials over the years that have become sort of part of our national DNA from the Joy of Happy Little Vegemite, suit of the Anger of not Happy Dan with the Yellow Pages. But arguably there is one TV commercial that had a greater impact than any other, particularly when you consider that it was only on air for a number of weeks but managed to terrify a whole generation. Talking about the Grim Reaper commercial back in nineteen eighty seven, which was designed to raise awareness around HIV AIDS. Who could forget that really menacing voiceover from John Stanton and those really bleak images of the Grim Reaper killing men, women, children and babies in a tenpin bowling alley. It was all about promoting safe sex. This is well before any successful or effective treatments had been developed. Had it had the tagline AIDS Prevention is the only cure we've got. It was very bleak, but very effective. Of course, HIV initially affected the gay community and IV drug users, but then people will require bring it through blood transfusions. There are a number of high profile cases. Particularly you might remember little Eve van Grafhorst who acquired it as a three year old. Her family treated so badly in the n they ended up moving to New Zealand. Then people like Magic Johnson, the La Lakers Great Star, acquired HIV. It happened to him. Suddenly everyone was thinking, gee, it could happen to anyone. I've caught up with Katherine Lean, who's the president of Positive Life ESSA. There are about fourteen hundreds Outh Australians living with HIV today. She'll explain her story, but first a reminder of the grim Reaper.
01:21:36
Speaker 3: At first only GAZE and IV drug users were being killed by AIDS, but now we know every one of us could be devastated by it.
01:21:47
Speaker 20: I was diagnized in nineteen eighty seven, the same time that the AD ran and it really scared me because I knew no other positive people. We were told, you've got six months to live, get someone to look after your child and don't tell anyone that you're HIV positive because of the stigma.
01:22:09
Speaker 7: Isn't that terrifying? Don't tell anyone You've got six months to live. Amazingly, Catherine went on to have another charges, in fact a grandmother now and living very happily and healthily thanks to the anti retroviral drugs that were developed in the nineties, and her clear message to people these days, if you're unlucky enough to be diagnosed with HIV, it is far from the death sentence that it was considered to be back when The Grim Reaper was on our TV streens.
01:22:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can remember it so clearly. Michael Smith seven News flashback segment, Thank you Mate.
01:22:41
Speaker 3: Five double a breakfast, David Ben Burbie and Will Goodies.
01:22:47
Speaker 4: No minutes after rat Peter Hurley's going to join us in about fifteen minutes time. I think South Australia's most well known publican, he was on the news last night talking about the fact that in his pubs they've been broken into every week so far this year, when the thirteenth to February, they've been broken into every single week this year, and he's made the point, if my people, my staff can't be protected by a police or we can't get these repeat offenders off the streets. They should be allowed to carry pepper spray. They should be allowed to carry peppers ray to defend themselves. Now, the Police Commission is not a big fan of this this concept, but Peter Hurley is gonna make the argument, and I reckon a lot of our listeners are going to say, you know what, fair enough. We're gonna hear from him very very shortly. Feedback Friday after eight thirty we will bring you the latest from Canberra when the Limbs Party remultimately makes the determination. But more excitingly, we have live golf tickets to give away.
01:23:44
Speaker 1: They are.
01:23:46
Speaker 4: Superb tickets for Sunday, so final round action. When the rubber hits the road, you will be there and these are the Crem Dela Crem. So stay listening. We're gonna give away those tickets before at nine o'clock this morning. It is, of course a Friday morning, which means that a little bit later this afternoon, Foody Friday with Stacy Lee Chris Jarrell be in the studio from three pm giving you some inspiration for weekend cooking. If you win the Gramazio Foods Meat Troy. I'll tell you what. Tune in to Chris. You might get some tips on how to cook up that mud. Chris makes that good. You can't stuff it up.
01:24:22
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01:24:27
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01:24:34
Speaker 1: It's start for breaking up August. I think is a really good story and it's also a big story. It's something that has arisen from some of the recommendations from the hugely important Royal Commission into Defense and Veteran Suicide. It involves a really noble and important organization, Legacy, which for more than a century has been helping the families of veterans who can no longer provide for their families due to service related death, injury or illness. We have Heather Willis, who is the Legacy ESA and Broken Hill President on the line now joining us this morning. Heather. A major sort of reimagining of the role of legacy is being announced today. The most important aspect, I guess is that Legacy is now going to be providing support to the families of former permanent ADF members and reservists, irrespective of the nature of their service. So a big broadening of the eligibility for the care that you people provide.
01:25:37
Speaker 21: Yes, good morning, David, that's a really nice introduction for me. You've really outlined what we've been launching today. Actually in canber there'll be an announcement of this change. I guess, as you said, Legacy has been supporting families of veterans for over one hundred years now across the country, and that's all about supporting the families of veterans who've given their life in service or suffered an injury or and enormness. And we have programs that are specifically tailored for each family. Everybody is different. Every family experience in difficulties, particularly bereavements and upheavals in their lives in different ways, so we make sure that each family that comes to us has the specific things that they need. So we provide social connection, particularly for adults and often older widows through periods of bereavement as I said, and also partners for incapacitative veterans. Often times they are going through some difficult times. Families of veterans do have a lot of up people in their lives and particularly affects the children. So we have excellent programs for supporting children through their education and also social development and their well being. We can help young people at really any age, so we've got some quite young ones toddlers, but will help people who want to go through university and extend their studies up to the age of twenty five.
01:27:12
Speaker 1: Yeah. So just in the context of the Royal Commission, though, I think one of the really jarring things was there were so many case studies of young men and women who had developed major depressive illnesses. And often these people hadn't actually served in a hot theater of war. You know, it was something where they hadn't been deployed anywhere. It might have been something that through years of training some of the different things in some cases sort of bastardization or whatever that they are exposed to, they ended up self harming. So from now on it means so threaten me if I'm wrong, but so legacy. Historically you would only help people who had served a period of operational but that's being removed now.
01:28:02
Speaker 21: Yeah, that's right. That's really probably the one of the most fundamental changes we've made in our long history. Broadens support to thousands more families really who would be eligible for us. So, as you say, we have traditionally supported people who've served, all the families of those who've served in operational service often other see but we've now extended that to peacetime service. So there's a large proportion of our veteran community and their families who are now eligible. And you're right, that's come really directly from the Royal Commission into Defense in Veterans Suicide. We've read that very extensive report. Their findings were about really far reaching impacts on military life and not just the veteran. As we do hear a lot about the veterans, it's often what families experience can also be a bit invisible in our community. We don't always see effects on families, on widows, partners, but particularly the children as they come through some quite difficult impacts in their own lives.
01:29:12
Speaker 1: Well, it's an important change either and it's going to mean a lot to the families that have been affected by this and whose stories were documented in that Royal Commission report. Heather Willis, the Legacy ESA and Breaknell President. Thanks for joining us this morning. An excellent development, that one.
01:29:26
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01:29:40
Speaker 1: Really the front page headline you want in the middle of an election campaign. Lived secretly dump policy to cut bills and then in it looks like one hundred and sixty point Hearne's water foil. We do have the leader of the opposition, Ashton Hern on the line now. Leader, good morning, and thank you for joining us. We were talking about this earlier and we're glad that you come on because, as we've said that, when it comes to broken promises, it's a bit of a target riche environment here. We can talk about ramping, we can talk about hydrogen plants, but in this case it looks like you guys have had a bit of a clanger.
01:30:14
Speaker 22: Yeah, good morning guys, and look I'm the type of leader who's always happy to front up and talk these things through. So thanks so much for allowing me to join. And look, I think I'm obviously prepared to say that could the release of this decision being better and cleaner, absolutely, but we do stand by it because when we did make the decision I think it was around two years ago now to reverse Labour's bill hike, state debt was around thirty billion dollars and it's now projected to push fifty billion dollars. So good governments need to have regard for the budget and that's certainly something that we would do if we're elected. And we're just not prepared to go to the election with something that we can't deliver, and that's in contrast to the Labor Party.
01:30:58
Speaker 1: Isn't the problem though? The problem though, isn't And hearn that as responsible, as fiscally responsible and as frugal as that decision is, and you're right about that is a problem. But isn't the problem that you made the decision to scrap it. A few weeks back You've still had Liberal candidates telling people that they're going to save eighty five dollars a year off their water bills.
01:31:20
Speaker 22: Yeah, and I think that there was. As far as I can see, there was one candidate out of forty five who had it on their social media. But I totally take the point. But I'd also say that Labour are running around saying that this was secret. I mean, our shadow minister was asked a direct question at a water forum where there were hundreds of people present, and she provided an honest answer, and she did so into a microphone standing next to the Minister for Water, who apparently said nothing afterwards. But more than that, we also put out a media release before the Treasurer stood up yesterday. But look, of course I'm prepared to say that the decision could have.
01:31:58
Speaker 4: Been released and hang on Ashton, So you put a meta release at before he revealed your position on the water policy that he foreshadowed much earlier in the morning, so that doesn't cast it.
01:32:11
Speaker 22: I didn't see him foreshadow it, to be honest, I could have could have missed that one, but yeah, certainly he didn't.
01:32:16
Speaker 4: If your shadow hadn't been asked about it, when would have voters found it found out about it?
01:32:21
Speaker 22: Oh, there's no doubt that we had plans to tell South Australians. I mean, we did so with the stamp duty decision that we made as well, and we're happy to be upfront with people. You know, Labour's criticism is going to be this week. Labour's criticism will is that we didn't get the PR right. So they're focused on the PR which I'm not surprised at because that's what they're largely driven by. We still do stand by our decision and I've got to say it's a bit ironic that we've got the Labor Party attacking us for not winding back attacks that they've introduced. And you know, what's the one cost of living measure that you can point to that this government is putting forward to the people of South Australia And I'm you know, you might be able to name a few, but I certainly can't. And that's in contrast to what we're putting forward to South Australians where we're talking about stamp duty, we're talking about fifty cent fares, getting rid of payroll tax. We know that cost of living and affordability is the number one issue, but we're not prepared to go to an election with something that we just simply can't deliver. That's in contrast to Labor on ramping and hydrogen. But I'm always prepared to front up and say that, of course the release of this could have been better and cleaner, but Labour's only criticism is.
01:33:35
Speaker 1: Of our pr Ashton Hern, the leader of the Opposition. Thanks for coming on.
01:33:40
Speaker 4: It's twenty minutes after right. Eight double two to three double oh is the number you'll need to call if you want to get on to Live Golf on Sunday. We've got some cracking tickets to give away and it's just on reflection, this is a bad five minutes for liberal politics actually, given now I know where this Nearest of the pin is going. We've got hospitalityts to the guard at the watering hole. That's the question. The question is we're playing nearest to the pin. How many votes is Angus Taylor getting in the Liberal pay room for the spill that starts in eight minutes time. Now there are fifty one people who will vote. Twenty six is a majority twenty six, So how many votes will he get nearest to the p' eight double two three double twenty six to win? Now, just by the way, these aren't just in any tickets to Live Golf. This is the garden at the watering Hole, which includes elevated platform from behind the tee, so you know the hole in one will give it to the hole in one if they throw the drinks in the air.
01:34:42
Speaker 1: Are you going to be there in the flash bit too? Cans in the air? Oh you know me, I'm a big can checker.
01:34:47
Speaker 4: It's all inclusive, drinks, all day, dining, general mission to explore the rest of the course as well, and you get to go to a concert of your choice afterwards. Like this, these are the best tickets you can possibly get. How many votes does Angis Taylor get in the party room and they make very very shortly get calling now eight rouble two three double o double oh.
01:35:07
Speaker 3: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
01:35:13
Speaker 4: Twenty six minutes after right now, this is going to be something Sunday Live Golf a watering hole, the garden which is of one of the venues of the watering Hole, with it all laid on and included rasking you and as a look at Sky and news up on their TV screen. Here all the Liberal Party MPs are assembling to them on the Liberal Party and they're all walking into their party room to vote who will become the leader. Our nearest to the pin this morning is your ability to predict what the Liberal Party will do. Some would say the toughest task in analysis on planet Earth.
01:35:48
Speaker 1: You know who loves today, Shaw, Terry, Terry.
01:35:51
Speaker 4: Not one complaint for Terry today. I think he's taped it.
01:35:56
Speaker 1: There again.
01:35:58
Speaker 4: Straight after the fifty one votes in the Liberal Party room, Angus Taylor needs twenty six? How many is he going to get? Nearest to the Penn Steven in north Haven, Good morning, it's twenty eight, twenty eight, Thank you, Stevid.
01:36:12
Speaker 1: Bill. How many I'm going for?
01:36:14
Speaker 6: Thirty thirty?
01:36:15
Speaker 1: Thank you Bill? How many you think he gets?
01:36:17
Speaker 2: Wendy twenty two? It's my birthday.
01:36:21
Speaker 1: Susan Lee retains the leadership. James in Nord, good.
01:36:23
Speaker 6: Morning, number thirty two, boys, thirty two.
01:36:27
Speaker 4: Thank you, James. Matt and Warredale, good morning, thirty three, thirty three.
01:36:32
Speaker 1: Let's go to West Lakes.
01:36:32
Speaker 3: Max.
01:36:33
Speaker 1: How many does Angus Taylor get?
01:36:35
Speaker 6: Thirty one?
01:36:36
Speaker 1: Guys thirty one and Neville in Glen elgeest.
01:36:39
Speaker 8: He's gonna at twelve twelve.
01:36:42
Speaker 1: That would be a pretty embarrassing, pretty embarrassing day. It is good to be out to live in a country where you can treat the national political leadership as a sort of you know, almost like a game of two up? Isn't it doing this in Cabul? Yeah, he's going to be the next leader of the Telivion.
01:36:57
Speaker 4: We would have been executed well off before ten year mark. I think thrown off the roof. Yeah, I think that happened. Yeah, some people have texted through they think that should happen here it No one was combining nearest to the pins with politics before this program.
01:37:17
Speaker 1: I've got something in my eye, will so as me to read any messages out And I just went and tipped a glass of water into my ard. Hasn't actually helped worse? I'm not sure what it is? All right, anyway, like Ellen's text, who bloody cares?
01:37:31
Speaker 4: All Right, we're gonna take a break five double A news is coming up. We're going to get feedback Friday shortly. If you'd like to be part of the feedback, eight, double two three, double O double five is the number to get calling right now. Everyone wins a prize. Feedback Friday night.
01:37:47
Speaker 3: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double A breakfast.
01:37:57
Speaker 4: Eight minutes to nine, Angus Taylor, the new leader of the Federal Liberal Party, having defeated Susan Lee in the leadership ballot thirty four to seventeen. That is a two thirds majority of the party room. That's actually a resounding victory. And the little of her score, Yeah, the worst thing you want, even if it mounts to the leadership change, is a but margin of two or three votes.
01:38:20
Speaker 1: So there's two questions. One is what does it mean for the country, but more importantly what does it mean for the competition? Will for the live golf tickets?
01:38:27
Speaker 4: Well, that's a great question because it means Matt, congratulations to you.
01:38:32
Speaker 1: Matt.
01:38:35
Speaker 4: Matt had thirty three. Did anyone so thirty? No one actually had his high as thirty four?
01:38:39
Speaker 1: Is that right? Mad one had it? So Matt with the highest. So in fact, Steven had twenty eight, Bill thirty twenty two. She was in the Susan Lee camp, James thirty two, Matt thirty three, the winner, Max thirty one, and Neville for the route twelve.
01:38:55
Speaker 4: So Matt was the closest well, and no one thought he'd get command as much.
01:39:01
Speaker 1: Of the vote as he did.
01:39:02
Speaker 4: As the reality of these things is, though, there would have been at least a handful of people who were Susan Lee supporters who would have seen their political futures and seeing which way the wind was blowing and they'd change at the last minute. But these things always happen in leadership challenges.
01:39:20
Speaker 1: It's the saying in politics, only trust the people who look in the eye and tell you they're not going to vote for you.
01:39:25
Speaker 4: Exactly right, because there would have been handful ever the go I'm not going to be I'm not attaching myself to a sinking ship. Some are two pot committed to bother doing that, but there would have been a handful going, well, you know what, I want to be a shadow minister or a minister one day, or oh.
01:39:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, if there's a horse called self interest back at a time.
01:39:41
Speaker 4: So sometimes yeah, once it's clear who's going to win, often they pick up a few more to make it look a bit more clear cut than it probably actually was. When they're all calling each other late last.
01:39:51
Speaker 1: Night in Australia, we know those people are suckles.
01:39:55
Speaker 4: That's exactly.
01:39:58
Speaker 1: They are. It's quite literally fgus being a sucky Well, let.
01:40:02
Speaker 4: Me could you your workplace if you had to vote for your boss. It looks like you devote who your boss was going to be and then you go, well that guy is going to win.
01:40:10
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not going to vote. I'm not going to have been the first sider of didn't votes for. Yeah, yeah, you got to know we signed your Bread's butter life you. Well, I just want to know that going forward, even though I both campaigned and worked for the other guy, I'm really happy that you got the job and look forward to catch you up in December. For the pay reviews, it's not really, it's not really.
01:40:35
Speaker 4: We have a meat tray to give away thanks to Gramazio Foods as well. Right throughout the morning, we've been asking you about your superstitions. It being Friday the thirteen turns out a lucky day for Anglis Taylor, not so much as Susan Lee. Do we have any that's stuck out to you?
01:40:51
Speaker 1: I have absolutely. Jude, my where are we? M? Says you. Gene is the morning you.
01:41:01
Speaker 4: Who realized and I think this is selfless on Jen's but he once went and got a crows jumper and got it signed by greats of the past, a terrific bit of merch. But what he realized was if on a match day he wears it, brings it out, or in fact even looks at it accidentally when he opens the cupboard, the Crows lose. It's been touched, so he's just it's got the shine. Yeah that's right. I mean really he should burn it. But you know what, you Jene, it's your piece of memorabilia. It brings bad luck to the football club you love, but it's brought you some good luck today because you've won the excellent Gramazio Foods.
01:41:41
Speaker 1: Meet Trey Grautzia Foods.
01:41:43
Speaker 4: Check them out. They do a wonderful job. Their stuff looks incredible. Burnside Village, Golden Grove Village. He can go online Gramanziofoods dot com dot au. They're Siliac certified if you're a Celiac, they're the only one. And see how Australia that is certified. And this stuff is just sensational. Just repeating the breaking news. Angus Taylor the new leader of the Federal Liberal Party, defeating Susan Lee thirty four votes to seventeen. The deputy leadership is currently being voted on. Ted O'Brien, Jane Hume, Jane Price, Dan t Just Enterprise Was that just enterprise I saw?
01:42:17
Speaker 1: Is she having a crack?
01:42:18
Speaker 4: Was it just centerprise? I just saw a graphic field just I thought, just centrad decided that maybe this is not her time to put it and put it politely. Who knows, But I just tried to quickly read a graphic. The people we love her, love her massively.
01:42:35
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:42:36
Speaker 4: Well, if you wanted to make a plead to a lot of the former Conservatives have gone to one nation.
01:42:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was there. They're the people. They're the people that the harder Libs are, more hard right Libs have gone. Stuff this. I'm out of here. She's the sort of.
01:42:50
Speaker 4: I don't want to be. I'm literally building it. I saw out of the corner of my eye. I saw a graphic and just tried to quickly rat off what I could have somebody else.
01:42:58
Speaker 14: I cook it.
01:43:01
Speaker 1: We're giving away more tickets. Get the deputy leader and you win a toaster. Yeah that's Are we treating this with the gravitas that it deserves? Will?
01:43:12
Speaker 3: No?
01:43:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we are. That's right. I think we are. You bugger all, we gave away live golf tickets. Are we're doing the best five things of the week?
01:43:21
Speaker 20: No?
01:43:22
Speaker 1: I totally forgot about. That's why I've been sitting here just chaty aimlessly about the debut leaders. She's hoping my zombie sound would have made the cut. It didn't make it. It didn't make it. That was my stuff. You my bad. You can hear David's zombie sound on Monday May. We have a great weekend. Everyone who's going along to live and have a good time. I was going to be there, and if you are a chapel oonne fan, I might see you there for a bit of Pink Pony Club.
01:43:48
Speaker 4: Have a great weekend, folks, stick around. Graham Goodings is next, and then we'll be back Monday morning from six o'clock.
01:44:00
Speaker 1: No one's in the tall bouncing home.
01:44:03
Speaker 3: The sounds like personal leslam.
01:44:07
Speaker 1: What are my spights?
01:44:08
Speaker 6: We gain?
01:44:09
Speaker 3: This is rae howere.
01:44:13
Speaker 1: It's a lot of fairs.
01:44:16
Speaker 11: This is grat