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Speaker 1: Live from heigh Marsh Square. It's five double a breakfast deep in fam Bervie and will goodings.
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Speaker 2: Night after seeks, Good morning to you, and welcome to Wednesday on five double A break which you've just heard the headline. The temperature has a two in front of it. In fact, it very nearly has a one in front of it. Twenty one point eight degrees outside in the city. At the moment, it's nearly fifteen full degrees cooler than it was at this time yesterday. It is safe to open your doors and blinds on this Wednesday, the twenty eighth of January. Over the course of the morning, lots to talk about. We're gonna chating with a South Australian expat who has called Minneapolis home for the last six years, and I imagine that experience has been markedly different.
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Speaker 3: Over the course of the last two or three weeks.
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Speaker 2: Before seven o'clock today, imagine running Adelaide's own ice matter fact only my ice manufacturing business. This must be the busiest time you've ever had in your history. The owner of Victor Harbor Ace is going to join us before seven o'clock to talk about how they managed to navigate the weekend and keep up with demand. Similar questions for the Bury Hotel. The Bury Hotel where Barry reached forty nine point six degrees yesterday, pretty good day to slake your first your first at the Bury Pub.
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Speaker 3: And there's a really concerning and sad.
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Speaker 2: Warning I think out today from the AFP with regard to something families love doing at this time of year, with kids returning to school or going to school for the very first time, the sharing of pictures of children online. The Australian Federal Police are warning that there are the lowest form of creep out there, for whom this is sort of like predator Christmas, where they wake the seas on these pictures to do god knows what with them. So we're talking about that over the course of the morning as well. David Penberthy, good morning to you, Good morning, well, good morning listeners here. I've got to say that just doesn't even bear considering, particularly this time, early time of day. But yeah, particular type of creep, that's the that's the correct term for it, isn't it. Yeah, it is. It's concerning. So we'll talk with the should be the nicer side of social media in this closed environment with your family and friends.
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Speaker 3: You can share those sorts of photos, but I guess it's a bit of a wake up call about what your privacy settings are. Well.
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Speaker 2: The other thing too, that's that's interesting about the It's not just about misuse of the photo in so far as AI or stealing it effectively. It's also and I found this intriguing, the sophisticated methods that exist now, the tools that are available to determine things like, well, where do you live? What school do they go?
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Speaker 3: Well? Correct? I mean some of that's obvious.
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Speaker 2: There's a logo in a school uniform, but now there are street signs, front doors that, what's that park in the background. It's really easy for all that to be determined now. Ye, stuff that no one would have alder thought of as identify as before. So we'll get into that.
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Speaker 3: You don't need to be Einstein to work it out. I mean, have you ever played that game Geo Guess It? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Jo Guess It is great. It's an amazing you'd be good at it because you could click from the plants. I reckon ah, I stuffed up.
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Speaker 3: The other day I was playing with my son and there was a puntier which is a prickly pair cactu. It's a big puntier, the ones that grow wild in rural Australia. They're obviously originally from Mexico. And there was a For those of you who don't know geo guess, it gives you a still from Google Maps and you've got to work out which country it is, so then you get the map of the entire world in your guess and then it tells you how fair you are from the location. Occasionally you can absolutely nail it and it's the best feeling in the world if you go that is like Granada. So for example, where the Alumba is, you know there's a dead giveaway building. Sometimes you get lucky and it'll be a town in Australia and there might even be a road sign in the background saying hey, one hundred and twenty eight kilometers and you go, oh, that might be bal Ryannold or something you know. But yeah, no, it's a hell of a lot of fun. Yeah, it's really fun. It's good people that like geography. But often the clues you get clues in your head. You go, because the cactus I mentioned it was I thought it was a town in Mexico, and it was actually a town in Portugal where the cactus obviously grows. And when there's plenty of plants that grow all over the world that hailed from somewhere else in the first instance, but.
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Speaker 2: Third and alfter six who have our listeners ever owned gold? If you're invested in gold? How many people have bought gold before as an investment? It has been considered for all of eternity the most boring thing to buy. It's the kind of thing that's been bought because you want to have something safe somewhere that is always going to be dependable. It's never going to lose value. It'll protect you if everything else falls over. The price of ours is the price of everything else in the world. It's kind of always seen like a bond, like something when you were a kid your grandparents told you to buy, and now it's suddenly become the fastest growing asset on planet Earth.
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Speaker 3: It's the is it sold in bricks? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: This is I'd no precious little about it beyond what it means is something you invest in? Is there the one size as in you know the one, this one you see in the bank vault.
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Speaker 3: James Bond film.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, these are great questions. I'd love to know for any of listeners. Have you ever any point in your life did you buy gold?
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Speaker 3: And how did I go to a subway where you can get a brick or half a brick a foot long?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Foot long or six inches? Yeah, that'll be three hundred and fifty five thousand dollars. It's five thousand dollars and ounce at the moment. Love to hear from anyone who's ever invested. And we're going to be chatting with someone after just before six thirty this morning. SA Gold Traders owner Lee Chapman's going to be on the program. It's suddenly very popular. It seems very old fashioned. It is very old fashion, but it's kind of doing at the moment what people thought bitcoin would do when things get tough. But it's been goal but forgiven its history, I just want to have any listeners we've had that have bought gold.
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Speaker 3: One of our listeners, John texted in and he's saying that he bought an ounce of gold in nineteen seventy eight for eighty six dollars.
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Speaker 2: Well, and right now it's worth if he's still got it five thousand and ninety two US. Actually, so it's worth about eight thousand dollars Australian.
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Speaker 3: Then how did that increased compare percentage wise to housing?
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Speaker 5: Ye?
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Speaker 3: Not great? Yeah ah.
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Speaker 2: Oh actually no, no, that's pretty good. Yeah, let's say it's eight thousand. What did he pay eighty bucks? Yeah, eighty six dollars. So it's gone up one hundred times. You're not getting many hours. They've gone up hundred times over.
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Speaker 3: That, one hundred times in fifty years. Yeah, it's just true. Rob says it's an international lego day. I believe that is true. Yes, it is. And being Rob, he says, shops have got lots of great bargains out there. It'll be very popular to get in early as people line up for blocks. How good you say you're a lego guy? There, ain't you? You say lego? Yeah, like the rest of the world.
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Speaker 2: It's some in South Australian of you. Yeah, this is it. You know, my confused heritage. I don't have any South Australian parents.
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Speaker 3: No, of course one Sydney the most from Sydney.
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Speaker 2: My dad's from Melbourne. That's mom's from Sydney. So I never grew up in a lago household nineteen. What year do you reckon? The first Lego block came out?
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Speaker 3: Ooh, nineteen sixty something. You're probably right.
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Speaker 2: The patent was made from nineteen fifty eight, so they had this idea that they made that they got the trademark for in nineteen fifty eight.
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Speaker 3: Lago felt new. Lago felt new in the seventies and prior to that. I can remember as a kid, and I never already got into it, to my shame, but it was all Mecano like our older listeners grew up playing with, not Lego.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, city still exists. Just didn't ever get it. It's not pop anymore, that's right. John and Nance called and brought it to you.
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Speaker 6: John, Hell are you boys good?
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Speaker 3: Thank you? John?
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Speaker 6: So what happened? I there was a building in the middle of Adelaide, was a multi story building. I can't remember which one it was, and I went up there with my money and said I want to buy some gold and they came out with a little little round and got of announce that cost me eighty six bucks.
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Speaker 3: I said, so where did you do with that? John?
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Speaker 7: We just kept it?
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Speaker 3: And do you keep it in a safe? Where do you keep your goal?
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Speaker 6: No, no, no no. I just kept it in my drawer and then I I actually bought a I bought a kilo of silver as well, and then I don't know how much long later I sold the I went back down there, sold traded in the ounce, and bought a two and a half ounce in God, which was nice, and that was just it was a bit more rectangular, okay. And then a few years after that, I was married and I bought a house and I wanted to put in a driveway, concrete driveway, because I were up in the hills, and I it was it seemed like a good idea at the time. I sold my two and a half ounce in God of Gold and basically swapped it for a concrete driveway.
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Speaker 2: Well, probably not too I mean, you went to know that decades later it was going to suddenly search John. So it was probably a reasonable, a reasonable decision to make.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I sold that. I sold the kilo of silver as well. I didn't do as well out of that.
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Speaker 3: How do you go to do you sell them back to traders.
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Speaker 6: Or I just went back to the just went back to the building wherever. I can't even remember what it.
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Speaker 3: Was, right, Well, what interested. It was good.
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Speaker 6: It was good. It was a nice misty. It was like a little pillow. It wasn't like a coin. It wasn't and it wasn't harsh rectangular. It was rounded, and it had a little stamp in the middle of it saying it was from the Perth mint.
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Speaker 2: Wow, that's extraordinary. So it's a little, a little a disc and then something more like a bar. John, thank you for that. You've answered some of our questions about investing in gold. Perhaps the place you went to was the original version of what is today sa gold traders who were speaking to very very shortly about buying gold. If any of our listeners that have we'd love to hear from you. Zero four eight zero eight thirty ninety five will give us a call that eight double two three double o double Oh.
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Speaker 1: David Penberthy and World Goodings five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 2: Twenty two minutes after six golds in the headlines because of a surge beyond US five thousand dollars an ounce. It's an all time high price for a commodity that typically just chugs along, and it's something that's that's safe and pennable and doesn't see this sort of volatility, but the moment people are screaming for it. We're asking listeners, have you ever bought gold before? Chris in Ova Gardens, Good morning, Good morning legends.
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Speaker 3: How are you good, Chris.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I was traveling through Dubai and the wife wanted some earrings, so I reluctantly went to the gold suit And you know, it's just door after door after door, little shops, and I was adam and I was going to get ripped off, but I spending about it was eight hundred dollars on some gold, earing some diamonds. And when I got back, I said to the wife, can you just get.
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Speaker 7: It valued and whatever?
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Speaker 8: This is about two thousand and seven and it was valued a bit over three fairs.
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Speaker 3: Wow, well someone was ripped off, Chris, but it wasn't you.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, very surprised.
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Speaker 3: That's amazing, incredible. Yeah, and she still got them.
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Speaker 8: Chris, Well she has and I know exacinitely where they.
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Speaker 2: Are just in case, Well, they've probably just appreciated a bit in the last forty eight hours.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for that, Chris. Lee Chapman runs SA Gold Traders. Lee, Good morning to you, Good morning.
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Speaker 9: How are you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, we're very intrigued by this because it's suddenly the very popular trendy trade to make buying gold.
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Speaker 3: Have you guys experienced a rush at.
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Speaker 10: The moment, Yes, we've It's been very crazy over the last financial years up until from June. We've basically done all of last year's trading six months.
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Speaker 3: Really wow. So when people buy gold we're talking before, everyone has the image in their head of a single and quite hefty gold brick. But you can buy different amounts, can you not? Yes?
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Speaker 11: Correct?
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Speaker 10: The spot I mean the smallest one you can get is one gram is the smallest of pertment make. But you can go from one gram right up to the five kilo bars if you wish.
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Speaker 3: So those bars, the ones that are the stuff of legend in movies and so forth, they're five kilos? Are they know?
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Speaker 10: They're the bank of the bank ones. I think they're fifteen kilos off the top.
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Speaker 3: Of my head, fifteen.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: It would be good for a workout.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, my doctor says, do I lift weight? I said, yes, sort of.
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Speaker 2: How liquid is it as a as a something to buy and sell? Lee, Like, if you buy a brick today, can I walk back into you tomorrow and just sell it?
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Speaker 10: Correct. Yes, it's very You don't have to go through a conveyancer or anything like that. It's literal lea money and money out, so you basically get funds transferred into your bank account and it may take up to twenty four hours depending on who your bank is, but your it's very fast.
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Speaker 3: What are your clients, I mean you must chat with some of the people. What do they do with them?
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Speaker 2: Where do they store them? Are they sort of they are they special safe or places people store them out? They're all a bit like our former Carl who just kept using his top drawer.
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Speaker 10: I've had people keep it in their fish tank. I've had people keep it as a doorstop. I've had people put it in a volt. We have vaulting services as well, but it's really up to the consumer where they would like to store it. But you can have a safer home or a safe off side as well.
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Speaker 3: And Lee, what do you think without worrying, you know, trying to put you on the spot for some dissertation about world politics, what do you think is driving people's interest in Goal? Is it just the stability, the historic stability of Goal as an asset.
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Speaker 10: Well, it's not old fashion, it's just forgotten fashion. But at the moment, you've got a perfect storm really because you've got industrial demand, mining demand because we're not digging it out the ground as much as we can find it or we need it. You've got central banks buying it, you've got geopolitical instability that's driving it. So long story short, there's an over demand and a short supply. Yeah that's going to continue.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, good analysis. Fascinating chat too, Lee, Thank you for coming on at this early hour, mate, We appreciate it. Chapman from SA Gold Traders.
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Speaker 2: So there's fifteen kilo bricks. Then you've seen the movies. I just did the rough calculations. So five hundred and twenty nine ounces to a kilo announces five thousand US dollars at the moment. So what of those bricks you typic good seed at bake Vault would be about two point six million US dollars each one of them.
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Speaker 3: So I actually think that's good. That's a good super package, isn't it. One gold brick?
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Speaker 2: One gold brick? You take that, that's one gold brick? Is just I've the failed super tax changes.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right exactly.
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Speaker 2: Let's have a look at the weather not as big a story today, thankfully as it was yesterday.
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Speaker 3: Don't tell Jim Charmers if you've got a fifteen kilogram gold brick you try to come up with a new arrangement. Top of thirty three today, which somehow sounds cool.
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Speaker 2: It is cool of them. What's going to be for the next three days? Tomorrow, thirty six Friday, We're back into the forties forty one on Friday. Then it drops away, thankfully, pretty quickly and somewhat dramatically, thirty two Saturday, and twenty four on Sunday, rug up twenty seven on Monday, and then thirty on Tuesday.
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Speaker 3: So much casse role. Yeah, that's right, much more pleasant. Anyone keep a witch about you. In Morialta, Michael from Woodford has been sending through some pictures of a giant tree trunk that's fallen right across the road. They're not sure which road it is, but in the Morialta area, a huge chunk and country lying there. His dog's having a bit of a look at it on their morning. We'll try and get some more information about that. Let's talk sport. Tom Range in the studio with us.
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Speaker 2: Get to Augustina Mitsubushi, Nailsworth and Wilson Lakes with the Outland at Es drive away from just thirty nine nine ninety morn.
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Speaker 3: If you're any morning, Wie morning David.
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Speaker 12: Look Alex Demonor unfortunately seventh quarter final at Grand Slam level last night. He's never been beyond one. It was a big opportunity, but he ran into a player that's at the top of his game. This is how the match finished in straight sets.
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Speaker 3: He's got a couple of match points. Simply a sensational match.
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Speaker 2: From the world number one, and he goes through to his first semi final here at the Australian Open.
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Speaker 12: The audio there thanks to nine that was Todd Woolbridge. So our Kraz has won six Grand Slams already. He's twenty two. The only one he hasn't won. He's won each of the other's Wimbled and French Us twice. It's the first time he's been to the semis here. It feels like a matter of time. I've sort of tried to summon up as best I can. I thought Demon all gave it his all, but it kind of feels like a ten handicapper playing against a guy that's off scratch. They're occasionally gonna have a better hole or two than them.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, overall the good analogy.
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Speaker 12: He's trying, and I think he has improved. He might even be down to an eight handicap compared to our craz, but there's a real gap between our Raraz, Sinera the rest.
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Speaker 3: Of the Yeah, that's right, one and two and then everyone else. I saw the statistic this morning that against for as good as demon Or is against in and our Caraz, his record is none from nineteen Yeah, which proves your point, doesn't it.
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Speaker 12: And it's not through lack of trying. It's just you know sometimes in a heavyweight about and you just outmatched. So he needs to go back to the world workout what do I do. How do I try and take the game on differently? You know, because our Craz and Center it does seem like it's it's their tournament one of those two, doesn't it.
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Speaker 2: We're said for you mentioned our crass age, they're not going anywhere. All roads are going to lead through them for.
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Speaker 3: The next decade twenty two and twenty four respectively.
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Speaker 12: So you spot on and a bit of a shock yesterday late probably twelve hours ago, Lauren ar Now has stepped down his coach at Port Adelaide. So there, Well, they're saying family reasons, but it does look at least it's not in season.
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Speaker 1: But curious timing.
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Speaker 3: Sort because you only resigned at the end of last that's right, that's right.
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Speaker 12: It seems a bit like a bowlder. Well, well, they did well two years ago, but they're okay. Last season they were better towards the end of the season, but the year before prelimb. So yeah, a bit of a strange one.
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Speaker 3: Good on, you're ready, thanks boys, stop David.
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Speaker 1: Penberthie and Will Goodings five double a breakfast, twenty two to seven, Police and Weather this half hour a little bit of a sneak peek at the weather.
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Speaker 2: We're not done with the forty degree days. Thank lit, some relief today, but there is another one in our near future. The Weather Bureau have all the information for us, very very shortly. Then after seven o'clock this morning, we're off to bear. We're going to chat with the hotel manage at the Bury Pub where it was forty nine point six degrees yesterday forty nine point six degrees. And then a little bit later in the morning we're gonna get update on the ALCA bloom. The environment is to Lucy Hood is going to join us. We've a lot of people using the beach over this long weekend. We've navigated a fair chunk of summer. Now, what is the state of play, What to the suggestion that it's spreading into coastline in SA where we haven't seen it before. We'll get into all of that with Lucy Hood after seven thirty. Wanted to get a sense of what life is like on the ground in Minneapolis at the moment. The eyes of the world have been on there following the tragic shooting death of Alex pretty intensive care nurse who've gotten an altercation with an ICE officer. ICE being the arm of the US government that's charged with finding a legal immigrants customs Excise, Correct Enforcement or excise. It's immigration customs of the first two. But everyone's been watching what's been happening in Minneapolis. The protests on the street have been massive. It's coming at a time where the weather, frankly couldn't be more different to what we're having here in South Australia. And we've managed to track down Shane Hale, a former resident of Whale here in South Australia who has lived in Minneapolis for the last six years. Shane, good morning to you.
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Speaker 6: Good day.
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Speaker 5: How's it gone.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're good, thank you, Shane. Jeezus, Minneapolis, it's been in the news often for all the wrong reasons back home here in Australia. Justine Diamond, the Australian woman who was shot dead by police, then George Floyd, and now the last month with the ice raids. What's it been like living there?
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Speaker 5: Well, normally it's really nice. I mean, it's a great place to bring up kids, and you know, really really nice. Although I was listening to your weather and it's a little different it's minus thirteen here, but you know, it's a quiet, nice place to bring up kids. But so this is kind of surreal, having masked armed sort of people running around and picking people off the streets. So it's yeah, it's very very surreal, a little scary. But you know, also, you know, things are just kind of going on anyway normally, so it's kind of it's really weird.
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Speaker 3: I guess the thing is the reality in a lot of the big cities in the US, there would be specific parts of town where I'm presuming you don't live, which would be the areas where there's giant clusters of Latinos, who, in the case of these ice raids, are the focus of a lot of what they're doing.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, actually.
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Speaker 5: A little bit. Although you know, Minnesota is pretty multicultural, you know, there's I would there are sort of concentrated areas. I think actually what you're finding the here though, is it's not so much the Latinos, although that's obviously a big issue. The ice agents are really going after the Somalis. Yeah, we have one of the biggest Somali populations in the country, and you know they're picked up on that. And yeah, basically the strange thing is, you know they say that we're going for the worst of the worst, but there's so many stories of the people just walking down the street and an ice agent drives up and starts asking questions and next thing you know, they're in the back of the van. But you know, we had a situation in myself. I live in a you know, upper middle class area, kind of in the outer suburbs, and we had a seventeen year old get picked up at the bus station while he was on the way to school.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and that was in our suburbs.
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Speaker 5: So you know, it's it's touching everyone. It's not like it's just concentrated in certain areas. Obviously, it is concentrated in some areas because you know, they go where they think the targets are, but it's all over the city and it's just crazy.
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Speaker 13: It's absolutely nuts.
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Speaker 3: The politics of it are obviously so intense in the US. As an Aussie coming from a more historically laid back country like ours, is it something we have to sort of bite your tongues sometimes, would just rather keep your opinions to yourself, regardless of what your opinions are. Do you have to sort of be a little bit sort of tiptoe around things to avoid conflict with workmates or even family and friends.
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Speaker 5: You know, I would have said that about three or four years ago. I probably would have said that. And you know, during Trump's first term, you know, there was like if politics started coming up, you'd kind of avoid it. But now there's such a polarization. You know, you're either a Trumper or your anti Trump. You know, there's no real in between anymore. And so and you know, especially with the situation we got happening in Minneapolis at the moment, we politics is on the front of everyone's mind. You know, I run a company here and I've had to have morning meetings and talk about you know, what are we going to do when if ice comes to the door, and you know, what are we going to do? We had one one of our guys he had to leave early because he lives closer to where some of the more heavier action is and they let off a tear gas canister right out in the front of the daycare for his young daughter. So he had to leave work early to go pick up his daughter because they closed the daycare center because of the the.
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Speaker 14: The gases.
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Speaker 5: So you know, it's so it's affecting work, it's affecting everything.
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Speaker 7: It's just it's really surreal.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Shane, as an Australian living over there, obviously you're not, as you've detailed, you're not the subject of a lot of these these ice raids. But I mean, do you have to carry paperwork on you? What if you got stopped and questioned about why you're while you're there?
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Speaker 15: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I do.
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Speaker 5: Now I'm a Green card holder, I'm a resident, so but you know, prior to all this, I would just have my driver's license, and you know, I'd be fine. But I put my green card back in my wallet and so it's ready there if I need it. And my passport's in my computer bag so that you know it's there if I need it. But but you know, I think it's pretty obvious I'm not the demographic I'm going.
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Speaker 1: For, so.
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Speaker 5: You know, it's and that's the sad thing is it's like I've got a one of the other guys here that works for me. He's got a father in law that hasn't left the house for thirty years, for three weeks because he's been here for thirty years, comes from Mexico, been here for thirty years as a citizen, but he's just too scared to go out because he doesn't want to get picked up. And you hear stories of people like having paperwork or you know, having like things on their phone to show that they're a citizen or a permanent resident, but they're just not looking.
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Speaker 6: They're just they're.
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Speaker 5: Trying to cause trouble. And it's and it's you know, that's all I'm trying to do, is they're trying to create trouble and get a response and That's one of the things I've got to be really proud of is the way that Minnesotans have responded. I don't know if think guys saw.
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Speaker 8: The march here.
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Speaker 5: There was like fifty thousand people that marched on a Friday last week, the day before the shooting, and you know, you might think of fifty thousand, you know, it's a pretty good march. Well, it was minus twenty degrees, and so to get fifty thousand people out marching and protesting at minus twenty degrees, that tells you a lot about the about the feelings here, and I kind of thought that that was going to be a bit of a turnaround. But then, of course, the next day, very next day, Alex got shot, and.
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Speaker 16: It was like that was just a real real shock to everyone, especially seeing the video and then hearing what the official response was being just so a stat It was just so obvious that, you know, there's more politics in here than reality.
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Speaker 3: So well, Trump seemed to try to change his language a bit on that, and I've been trying to walk back the claim that he was a domestic that it was an act of domestic terrorism. They're running away from from that statement. In the last forty eight hours, and I think probably because they realize public opinion is not is not supporting that line.
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Speaker 5: So yeah, I think though you know, when you look at it, though, if something happens, you know, some police shoot people unfortunately too often, but you know, happens, but the first thing you see is like, we're going to investigate it, We're not going to assume anything. And yet these guys are going out there straight away saying that the domestic terrorists, and so you can tell that there's no real.
00:28:51
Speaker 16: Thought going on here.
00:28:52
Speaker 5: It's just, you know, let's cause as much mayhem as we can, so we can, you know, really so that we can and disrupt the midterm elections. I think, I mean, that's my opinion, but there seems to be the track that they're going on.
00:29:07
Speaker 3: Well, is interesting getting a first hand account from a South Aussi who's just living there, drawing your own conclusions about what is going on based only six years of living and working in Minneapolis. And let's say we don't have any Donald Trump press conferences saying We've going to crack down on legals from Wyala and gangs of South Australians are disrupting our way of life.
00:29:36
Speaker 5: But I've got to tell you, I think that's a pretty limited audience.
00:29:42
Speaker 3: That's right.
00:29:44
Speaker 5: I used to say there was three guys from Whaler in the US, but now I think there's two. As one of them went back, Yeah, I think I'll be safe there.
00:29:55
Speaker 3: No, Shane, We're good talking to you about Shane Hale, former Essay resident living in Minneapolis. A lot of feedback to that piece. There's there's one here from saying, morning boys. It's pretty simple. If you're not an illegal immigrant, you've got nothing to worry about. The problem is there are multiple cases of people who who are actually American citizens have been dragged dragged away, but there's dozens and dozens of examples of them being so heavy handed. I do agree though, with some of our commenters who were talking about the protester being pretty stupid rocking up there filming the Ice agents whilst having a loaded gun on him. But you know what's interesting, the Republicans are split about this. A lot of Republicans are saying, hang on a minute, since when is carrying a loaded gun being grounds exact to shoot you?
00:30:42
Speaker 2: I think that feels like a very Australian perspective. Imagine rocking up to an event with a gun. Well, I wonder who doesn't have a gun on that street in a city that has direct concealed carry laws.
00:30:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're allowed to. Like what the NRA's official line is, everyone's allowed to carry.
00:30:58
Speaker 2: Feel like everyone should be allowed a Yeah, you turn up to an event with a gun, you're probably there to coose struggle. Yeah, in America, large parts of America, you turn up anywhere with a gun, you just left your house.
00:31:07
Speaker 17: You know.
00:31:08
Speaker 3: I can't stand I don't. I don't know why anyone in Australia is barracking yeah about this, Like, it's not it's not our fight, and let's not make it our fight. Let's let's observe it and let's talk to someone like Shane Shane. Obviously. You know, the Minneapolis people have got a pretty anti Trump take on it because they're living through it. Maybe they've been brainwashed by their Democrat overlord. Who knows, But the idea that we're barracking hown't we just observe and discuss like that, You're no, The answer is no. Politics is just I don't know.
00:31:40
Speaker 2: I think it's a COVID symptom that hasn't been fully diagnosed and explored yet the wrong people's cod Yeah, I think it is long ideology, all right, let's check it with the whather bureau.
00:31:50
Speaker 3: Chris Kent is on deck on this Wednesday morning. Chris, thankfully a bitter relief in the air.
00:31:55
Speaker 18: Yeah, definitely, guys, much much more pleasant to night last night than previous We had a max so minimum of twenty one point seven degrees in Adelaide, still a little bit above average, so still not real cold, but yeah, much more pleasant than the the thirty four we had previous nights, so up in the air. The hills Mount Lofty had fifteen point nine as a minimum, so much better sleeping where. We've seen a bit of moisture increase as well. Across Adelaide as the change has moved through. Maximum today mostly sunny thirty three degrees in the city, thirty six in the Elizabeth, thirty two down at Glenelg and thirty at no longer twenty eight up in the Mount Barker. So looking at a bit of a brief reprieve from the heat, but we are seeing that heat returning by Friday. Maximum of forty one degrees forecast for Friday before yet a proper change comes through over the weekend and we'll see temperatures sort of back into the the heights when he's maybe the low thirties next week.
00:33:04
Speaker 2: Guys, good on you, Chris, thank you. Let's say to say Paul's and he comes to a Matte Brown's on the line, Matt. There was an assault at Elizabeth Downs yesterday afternoon.
00:33:12
Speaker 11: Oh, that's right, Will. The victim was walking along Coleman Road at Elizabeth Downs about three point thirty pm yesterday when he was approached by two males. The victim was struck with a wooden garden stake and sustained an laceration to his chin during the assault. The suspects left and would I see him walking back along Coleman Road and the victim of seventeen year old boy was taken to hospital by ambulance, so his injuries are not believed to be life threatening. But police attended the scene and investigations were ongoing, and it appears that people involved unknown to each other, so it was not a random incident. But anyone who may have witnessed it, it is asked to call crime Stoppers on one eight hundred Triple three Triple zero Matt.
00:33:47
Speaker 3: Also, there's been a truck roll over at Dublin that's right, David.
00:33:51
Speaker 11: Police were called to the area about one o'clock this morning after a truck had rolled No reports of any injuries or anything like that. Restrictions are in place with the northbound carriageway down to one lane, so there should be delays there for the next few hours, so avoid the area if possible.
00:34:09
Speaker 3: And a couple of people have been arrested after a break in at a balls club.
00:34:13
Speaker 11: Man, that's right, It's done, Australian will yeah back. On the nineteenth of January, police will call to a bowls club in durre Voice after reports of a break in and the theft of various items from inside. Detectives from murray Bridge the IB identified two suspects during the investigation, and on Monday police arrested a twenty four year old man and a twenty five year old man, both from murray Bridge, and a vehicle believed to be used during the offense was seized by police and has also been forensically analyzed. A number of stolen items were recovered and returned to the bowls club so they can continue selling beer at nineteen seventy three prices. But both men have been charged with serious criminal trespass and theft, and they've been granted ball to appear in court at a later date.
00:34:56
Speaker 3: Great stuff, Matt. Good work by police there. I can't have ade.
00:35:01
Speaker 2: Knocking over a bowls club is a sort of I can't imagine the returns are great as a prospective criminal.
00:35:08
Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't.
00:35:09
Speaker 2: It's not like Fort Knox or that jewelry store that we saw overnight where they robbed it. They pinched a million dollars worth of diamonds and so forth. What are you pinching at a bowls club? Carrot sticks, some cheese squares at about nineteen dollars.
00:35:26
Speaker 3: You're not going to find a gold bar in there, are you? I would have thought. I'll tell you what. Jeff t found a gold bar. He sent us a photo of himself holding an eleven kilo gold bar from the Havila gold mine in say in twenty sixteen, now valued at two point eight eight million. House.
00:35:41
Speaker 2: Should have kept hold of it, Jeff, that would have been good. I'll tell you what ice was like gold over the weekend. If you get your hands on it and keep it frozen. It made your life a lot more bearable. There's one place in South Australia that makes ice, Victor Harbor Ice. Barry Starkey is the owner and joins us now. Barry, good morning to you.
00:35:58
Speaker 13: Good morning guys.
00:36:00
Speaker 2: This last weekend for you sort of like you know, the last week of trading before Christmas at the central markets.
00:36:06
Speaker 13: No, not really, mate, We're a little bit thankful and we finally got some warm weather. We weren't that busy before Christmas. The weather wasn't in air favor at all, so we're trying to.
00:36:19
Speaker 7: Make up for it now.
00:36:21
Speaker 3: So it was a pretty quiet Christmas. Barry being being milder. News was news was quite cool as well, wasn't it.
00:36:28
Speaker 13: Yeah it was mate.
00:36:30
Speaker 7: Yeah, Charles got down fair bit on David Shoes mainly because of the weather. But yeah, it's got to take it as it comes, really.
00:36:41
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I suppose a week like this is perfect where you do. I'm not one. I bought I bought five bags of ice on Saturday. I bought two more on Monday. You know, when you get the sustained heat, people get into the into the rhythm of buying it a bit more. Don't they Yeah, they sort of do.
00:36:58
Speaker 7: It's a little bit it's too hot, people don't go out so they don't die. Ice where they need is round about the mid thirties that entices people to go down the beach had barbecues and that's where you where they get their rescues, and of course with the keys comes ice.
00:37:16
Speaker 2: Who are your biggest customers, Barie, is it hotels and petrol stations and.
00:37:21
Speaker 3: Things like that.
00:37:24
Speaker 7: Mainly petrol stations this time the year, caravan parks, liquor outlets, and we're starting to get into where the houseboats are starting to run, so they have a bit of a run on for about two or three months before it gets cold. But yeah, mainly the liquor outlets or our biggest customers service stations have a big, big impact as well.
00:37:47
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:37:47
Speaker 2: Sure, how many bags of ice would you still over a course of a really hot week lot we've just added.
00:37:55
Speaker 7: I'd probably say around eight ten thousand.
00:37:59
Speaker 3: Bags, eight ten thousand bags, yeah right, Yeah.
00:38:02
Speaker 7: That's not huge for us. We have that bigger week. But yeah, in the last week we should here in about eight days.
00:38:12
Speaker 3: Yeah right, we're talking the other day, Barry, when it was stinking hot, forty five degree day about the worst jobs to have, you'd have one of the better jobs. I'm guessing for a hot day. You can always find plenty of.
00:38:26
Speaker 7: A lot of people say that, mate, but so realistically, on a really you're in the air con and then you're out in the hotcome and I'm putting bags from the transport vehicles into the cabinet, and then you're back in the air con. Then you're back in the heat again. It's sort of not as funny or as good as people think it is.
00:38:48
Speaker 3: And it'd be physical work to you. So you're not exactly relaxing, are you.
00:38:53
Speaker 7: No, No, not really. Yeah, you've sort of got an unload two bags time, which is Jim kills otherwise to take you all day.
00:39:04
Speaker 3: How does your power bill go, Barry?
00:39:08
Speaker 7: You can have it anytime you.
00:39:09
Speaker 3: Like, Karake.
00:39:11
Speaker 2: It must be tough running a business like yours. Over the last couple of years with bills going through the.
00:39:15
Speaker 7: Roof, it's been extremely playful because that's our biggest out of Fluent's the biggest chunk of their profits. We would spend somewhere between sixty and eighty dollars a year. Unfair, Krake, And yeah, even though we have got a ninety nine killer watch system on the route, it's we still get these.
00:39:45
Speaker 3: Amazing great Jenny and Barry God's Country, Victor Harbor, Barry Starkey, the ice factory owner down there in Victor, David.
00:39:54
Speaker 1: Peenberby and Will Gooding's five double A breakfast light after seven.
00:39:58
Speaker 2: A good morning to you're joining us for first time on this Wednesday, the twenty eighth of January. Much more pleasant outside at the moment twenty one point nine degrees outside of the city.
00:40:08
Speaker 3: Totally ever, only a brief reprieve, they will it is. We're gonna be talking about it again all Friday when it's forty two again. Who knows it might be more than forty two. It could will be.
00:40:17
Speaker 2: The good news is after that though, thirty two twenty four to twenty seven for the weekend, so everyone's doors and windows can open and we.
00:40:23
Speaker 3: Can decompress a little bit.
00:40:24
Speaker 2: Coming up over the course of the next hour on the program, the Environment Minister Lucy Hoods going to join us. We'll get an alcoll bloom updates and concerning reports about potential spreads to other parts of South Australia. But what hasn't played out on metropolitan beaches over the bulk of summer. Has the heat had any impact whatsoever on the blue We'll get the latest science from the Environment Minister after seven thirty and before seven thirty the rumor fhile opens up. If you've got a rumor for us, we have some thorn Clark Wines for you, the shot Fire range, a triple pack Thorn Clark Wines, bootiek family owned and Barossa grown Thornclarkwines dot com dot au. You've got rumor, you can stay totally anonymous. Eight double two to three double is our number. Call Inspector Patty and m and we'll get those rumors to have some really cracking ones over recent towards the end of last year, and looking forward to hearing your rumors in the next fifteen or so minutes. Really disturbing story on the front page of the Advertiser this morning with regard to what is a happy tradition for families at this time of year, using social media to share photos of young kids on their first day of school, their first day back at school. Nice way of keeping the community and all your friends if you share in oh so and so child they've grown up, or they've shot up, or as you said earlier, I think it's a nice part of social media usage. Well, it's under siege from people who would use it for unimaginable reasons. The AFP have put out a warning this morning about people posting images on social media for a couple of issues, the potential curation of child exploitation materials, but also people who now can use fairly sophisticated tools to determine locations where you live, where kids go to school, and so forth, by things in pictures you might not immediately imagine give away markers of where you are, things like public parks or doors or buildings that you think are fairly nondescript but can be used to determine where young people are. We're joined now on five to bl a breakfast by ACU Institute of Child Protection Studies, directed Professor at Daryl Higgins. Professor Higgins, Good morning to you, Professor Higgans, Good morning. You know we don't seem to have him.
00:42:44
Speaker 3: Yes, we've got you, We've got you. I'm sorry, thanks for having me on not at all, Professor Higgins. Thank you. We was just rattling through all of the various threats, and obviously they have been well documented. What is the best way to avoid it? Would you recommend that the absolutest, sort of zero risk path of just not getting involved in social media at all, or rather, given that it is sort of the way of the world these days, and you know, we've often got friends to state, is it all about your privacy settings? What would you advise?
00:43:18
Speaker 19: Yeah, look, we do need to take a balanced approach, and we absolutely have to understand that parents, you know, really want you, for good reasons share those first day of school moments. You know, they are incredibly meaningful, and so we don't want to say don't do it. What we want to do is say share it in ways that don't also share your child's identity, their routine or their location. So it's about prioritizing those kind of choices that are going to protect the privacy of children without taking the joy out of parenting. And so there's some really kind of clear and simple ones. You know, avoid using full names when you're tagging you know someone, avoid posting real time because that can share location data, or if you are going to make sure you've turned it off, particularly when you're sharing that image electronically, but also think about the settings that you have on your social media accounts. You know, so have private sharing options where possible. So those kind of things help to really keep children safer. The other thing, as you mentioned in your introduction, is about what else is in the background. You know, so clearly having other children in the background is something you need to be talking with them and their parents about. But also having you know, clearly identifiable landmarks is one of those ways that can give away location information that we might not be front of mine thinking about.
00:44:45
Speaker 2: Is there a question here or is there a conversation around privacy settings on social media accounts? Do you think as well? So many people are public. I think some of most of my social media is quite public and anyone can get to it. Should we be trying to create more closed communities when it comes to what we share?
00:45:03
Speaker 1: Well?
00:45:04
Speaker 19: I think part of it is we have to call social media companies to account, and one of the ways we can do that is to advocate, as the E Safety Commissioner does routinely, is to have kind of privacy as the default setting. So yes, it's fine for people to choose to turn that off, but we need to know about what are the risks? So are there some warnings if we choose to go beyond that default privacy kind of settings, that these are the kind of ways that people might misuse that information, you know, and that needs to be done in a really low key but clear fashion. You know, we don't want to tend page terms and conditions, which we know, you know how many of us read those big long things. But there can be routine kind of warnings. So if you've turned off your privacy settings, do you, you know, every couple of days, get at least for the first few days after you've turned it off, do you get some little pop up notices saying do you know that these are the kind of harms that might accrue if you don't pay attention to privacy settings? You know, And unfortunately tech companies get away without doing that because we as a community don't value our privacy and we don't actually see the risks. And you know, you had in your introduction the phrase unimaginable reasons, and that's part of the problem is that we actually do have to imagine these reasons. We do have to imagine what somebody else might do. We need to understand how grooming for the purposes of sexual abuse can occur, and how tracking down information about a child and their location, their friendship group, their connections, their places is really really important.
00:46:42
Speaker 3: I think too, you, Professor, is one thing for parents in the slightly older age bracket, Like I'm in the mid fifties, but I've still got kids at primary school. People from my generation, we're not digital natives. It arrived late in our lives. We had no internet at school, no social media when we were young. So I think maybe the onus is on us to become a little bit more digitally savvy, because like, I don't really know what I'm doing with things on Facebook, Like I've got it. I've never put a photo up on it, but the mere fact of having it, I know other people post pictures that friends of mine who know how to use it, they put stuff on it, and I'll see things that pop up in the feed. But yeah, you know, we need to become a little bit more educated because I really go the faintest idea of what.
00:47:29
Speaker 19: I'm doing with it, absolutely, absolutely, just as we also need to as parents and grandparents. You know, I'm an older generation as well. We need to be thinking about child sexual abuse prevention and what is our role and digital tools that can either help us or place us at our children and loved ones at greater risk, you know, needs to be part of that education. And so I think schools can play a role because that's where many of us congregate, you know, that's where we have contact. It can be a good source of education. I mentioned before the Office of the e Safety Commission that has a fabulous website with some great resources. The Raising Children Network have some fantastic resources as well. So, yes, we do need to be taking the opportunity to get ourselves educated about tech, get ourselves educated about child sexual abuse prevention, but also agitate for our school to do more, Like is there strategies that our school could be doing to help keep us informed about you know, both the benefits and the risks of some of these new ways of engaging and sharing, particularly within the school community. You know, having some you know, established kind of principles or ways of communicating about the children in our school can help keep everyone safer.
00:48:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, all great advice and interesting stuff. Professor Daryl Higgins from the ac Institute of Child Protection Studies, it's really sort of both second nature but also something that plays on the back of your behind with things like a school school sport where it's like, let's get a team photo of victis and you put it up on your sports app. But then someone can get the photo and you just stick it up on their Facebook page and here's my kid. But there's all these other kids in there, and you know, on the face of it, it's all completely innocent, and it's pretty sad indictment of the way of the world.
00:49:28
Speaker 2: Isn't it that you even need to discuss these things completely? It is, but as the professor said, unfortunately we do. It's a seventeen minutes after seven. We're gonna check traffic and come back with more at a moment, including the Ruba file. It's about to open. Eight double two to three double O double is the number. If you've got one for us, we might just have a Thorn Clark shot fire range for you. Three quality wines from a wonderful winery in the Brossa Valley. Eight double two to three double O double oh is the number.
00:49:52
Speaker 1: Get calling now, David Penberthie and Will Goodings. Five double a breakfast.
00:49:58
Speaker 2: Twenty two seven got apologize, it's for a little bit of fake news before the break, I said, call in for the rumor file. Well, their phones aren't working, so that's going to be somewhat difficult at the moment and also makes the room file problematic. If we can actually get the rumors to wear, you could write us a letter and then we could read it out in a week and a half five working days when it arrives. How long does it take for a letter to arrive these days? Because you don't get daily deliveries. In your daily deliveries, I want to know how Amazon get things out so quickly. So I bought something online a new filter for a tap the other day. Within Australia it was five business days. Hence that number being forefront of mine to get here. You can buy something from Amazon halfway across the world and they'll get it to you in two to three days. The distribution network is just unbelievable.
00:50:42
Speaker 3: Well, this is why Australia Post to get and build that massive of course processing center using artificial intelligence and all of that out whether they'll hold in factor that's right, huree gigantic, biggest one in Australia forty nine point six degrees yesterday in Barry good temperature for a drink or was it? The manager of the Bery Hotel, Jeremy Sweet joins us, Jeremy, good morning to you morning, gentlemen. How are we well? Well? That is it too hot to even go grab a beer in that weather?
00:51:11
Speaker 20: It's pushing it. I must admit the lemon squashes went fairly well to start with the day, that's for sure.
00:51:18
Speaker 3: There must be a sort of sweet Spot's be like the iceky we were talking to earlier, Jeremy, But there must be a point where suddenly you see the numbers surging. But does it get to a point where suddenly people's going to I'm not even leaving the house, I'm staying home.
00:51:33
Speaker 20: No, they still come out and had dinner with us, and the trades still come in for their three o'clock knockoff, which was refreshing to see. We did have an event over the weekend where it was forty five with a few thousand people on the riverfront and they were definitely coming in in their droves that day.
00:51:50
Speaker 3: So what was it like this heat? I mean, we know the river land obviously has always got hot in summertime, but did it did it feel uniquely uniquely boiling this week.
00:52:02
Speaker 20: I must admit it was hot, but I mean my girls still trained basketball last night. So still took the daughters to basketball training in forty nine degree weather. I'm not quite sure if their conditioned stadium was sitting about thirty degrees, so it wasn't too bad. I think when weather Zone shows it as a purple temperature number instead of the red one, everyone gets a bit oh it's a little bit hotter.
00:52:29
Speaker 3: So how is life in Bury? I've been to Berry for years. I've got to get back up to the river Land. Absolutely love it up there. But it's become a bit more touristy, hasn't it. You've got a bit of a bit more more food and wine destinations popping up, and I know that the pubs are at the forefront of you know, a lot of the excellent gastronomy in the area.
00:52:48
Speaker 20: Yeah, the community hotels in the region really do a good job. And then the local producers, I mean, the food and wine that we've got second to none in the Riverland and we're keeping it all alive in forty nine degree weather, which is fantastic.
00:53:02
Speaker 3: Well, mate, you got a couple of days of respite before it fires up again on Friday. We're going for forty one here in town, so you'll probably exceed that easily, I would imagine.
00:53:13
Speaker 20: I think we're forty one today too, so I mean I didn't hear the radio this morning, but I'm not quite sure if forty one is a cool change, but we'll definitely take.
00:53:22
Speaker 3: I think it is. It's almost nine full degrees from where you were yesterday. Unbelievable. We might need the jumper jeez, you wouldn't want to be changing a keg or carrying one downstairs.
00:53:34
Speaker 20: It was warm outside and let's not sugar curt it. It was definitely hot in the river Land yesterday.
00:53:40
Speaker 3: Beautiful part of the world though. Good on to Jeremy. Good chat with you mate.
00:53:43
Speaker 2: Thanks Jemmer, enjoy the Jereby Sweet the manager of the magnificent Bury Hotel and a beautiful part of South Australia.
00:53:51
Speaker 3: Now I think the foods are working. Yes, we're back.
00:53:53
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00:54:38
Speaker 3: Bars, happening in a very out of the way location. Plenty to talk about those two they do and they did it. I'll just read it out.
00:54:49
Speaker 2: In Fullerton on Saturday of the long weekend, mind you, hot day and things got hot at this meeting. Apparently, Elizabeth Debars and two other women met with the Premiere and had what was described as serious and animated talks. Mister Barrs dominated much of the conversation. The Premier did some talking. There was tension that was palpable. The venue was really out of the way. Fullerton's interesting spot for this to take place. There was no one in the area Saturday of the Long weekend and it was very frank and someone with a keen eye saw the entire thing unfold. Now time is interesting election campaign. We know how prominent Health was four years ago at this time and there was an EBA meeting, discussion and negotiation going on at the moment.
00:55:44
Speaker 3: Maybe the conversation went along the lines I've listened. If we don't get a decent offer from you guys, the last thing you would want is a massive fight with the nurses in the midst of the election campaign. Given the huge public good will that exists towards nurses, we want talking here about the CFMU. It's a much harder campaign for the government to win. They've got a lot of leverage at the moment. The nurses, yeah, massively.
00:56:10
Speaker 2: They're just an interesting one who've played out in the heat of the long weekend. Eight double two to three double o double.
00:56:15
Speaker 3: OK.
00:56:15
Speaker 2: We've got the phones look like they're working because I can see some people calling in. If you've got a roomor for us, we might have a some of the magnificent Thorn and Clark range of wines for you.
00:56:24
Speaker 3: Hey, stay listening.
00:56:25
Speaker 2: In an hour's time, the Police Commission is going to join us Grant stevens our first check in of twenty twenty six, and the word of policing has changed a lot since the end of last year, so we're looking forward to that chat.
00:56:34
Speaker 3: A little bit later. Bank teller is on the line. Bank Telly, you've got a roomor for us?
00:56:39
Speaker 21: Yes, I have. As long as I can remember. There's been a building society in Blackwood and it got taken over last year by a bank, and everybody in the district or nothood is. I was bitching to my headdresser about it, about the inconvenience and how the old and the disabled and all of us are going to be so so inconvenienced, and she said, my cousin works for one of the top banks, and she was saying, at Christmas dinner he told the whole family that all banks are aiming to shut every branch every atm and have everything done online and on your phone. Nothing.
00:57:28
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well it's such a believable rumor. Yeah, completely.
00:57:33
Speaker 21: And I'm just horrified because I have a friend and she's not that old. Her husband died young, and she doesn't have a computer. She doesn't have a mobile phone. How in the hell is she going to do banking?
00:57:47
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, thank you, bank tell I think that's a that's a solid rumor. I mean, you have that I went into.
00:57:51
Speaker 2: I'd probably go into a bank branch once a year and maybe that's a sign of why things are going the way they are. But I did at the end of last year, had to bank a check. And you have the weird scenario now where the person in the line will come along if there's a big line. There's always a big line up these days and say and ask every what they want to do, and if it is something that can be done digitally, they'll say, ohy, don't we just do it over your phone over here? Or why don't we do it go out to the ATM.
00:58:15
Speaker 3: You don't need to come in to do that, and so everything's just wanted to get out of the building as well completely.
00:58:20
Speaker 2: So it's a sort of in store training module to mean to make you not need to come in store anymore.
00:58:27
Speaker 3: Are you familiar with the international banking entity called WISE for moving shuffling money around okas And it's taken off because you don't have to pay anywhere near the same level of fees you would if you were shifting money out of an Australian bank and paying somebody overseas in a foreign currency. So it started off specifically as that, but now people are using it as their own bank, and it's not purely a website. There's no office, there's no one to call like. It's just it's a website. And it's become a significant threat to the sort of traditional bangs that are still bricks and mortar to a degree, but just sort of been getting away with charging these fees for international transfers for years, but now it's letting people use it to put their savings into it. At some point it might even start doing mortgages. Maybe it already does. But it's interesting, and it's got no physical present anywhere. Yeah, it seems like the wave things. Our phones stop working about five minutes ago, so we still have some rumors coming in late. What we're going to do is we'll take a break five to blow news on the way. It will take some more rumors, So right after the break.
00:59:36
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and World Goodings five double a Breakfast's.
00:59:41
Speaker 2: Twenty one minutes to eight Cooshi's coming up before eight o'clock. Inflation data comes out a little bit later this morning. Will it point to an early rate hike this year? Be plenty for the RBA to digest. We'll get a full preview from Koshi very very shortly. The police commissioner coming on after a thirty already some terrific text coming through for him on the text lines for eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. We've extended out the rimfire as well because in the last half hour we were operating sands.
01:00:06
Speaker 3: Phones, which is difficult. Songs song song song the Francophiles out there, so we had no phones and they are phones are our working. So if you'd like to call us, let's do it in English.
01:00:20
Speaker 2: Eight double two to three double O double oh is the number and you will now be able to get through if you couldn't in the last half hours. I you've got a room for us. You can feel free to give us a blozoz. Plenty of text of coming through.
01:00:31
Speaker 3: Though one from Justin. We provided a photograph. It looks like a Mark Rothko painting. Check out this fog At Mount compass all the way from a Chunga and it's got this amazing sort of sandy base at the bottom of the image, which is the paddox, and then above it it's just like this thick, thick fog showing the mixed bag of weather that we're getting all around the state. Like a commentary to around the social media in if you in light of the warning by the AFP, Tom in Sterling says, boys, I've dumped all social media and I've never been happier. It's a wormhole and I've missed nothing. I haven't been on Twitter for about three years now. I've still got an account. I must admit that the night that Travis Head made his century in Perth, I briefly re entered Twitter, broke my three year drought and just got on there. I might have been somewhat excited and in a state of advance refreshment, but I got on there and I wrote I'm returning to Twitter to say one thing, and then I just wrote, in all caps trash. I was always a huge Twitter user and X that's what it used to be fun. It used to be a fun well, really usefully for work.
01:01:49
Speaker 2: But there's been two examples, and it was predates the protests in a ra but There's been two major events news wise that happened in the last three months, and I thought what I'd historically do would go on and get real time accounts from people on the ground, journalists and others and get a real sense of what's going on when the war in Ukraine broke out and so forth. But now I can get real time accounts of what people think about what's going on, and it just says, no use for news anymore.
01:02:16
Speaker 3: It's just a it's been overrun by ideologus and chatbots totally. It's totally useless. Now it's just a conversation. It's an argument. Yeah, it has no utility anymore. Whereas it used to open it and you'd find, like remember the great ABC broadcaster Mark Colvin, like following him at Colvineus was one of the pleasures of Twitter because Mark, who was the most voracious reader of anybody I've ever known. He would every day put up links to like seven amazing articles that he'd read, and they were from right across the ideological spectrum, from different magazines with different agendas, different newspapers with different agendas, and you'd you'd look at everything Mark had put up and go, I'm so I feel so much better for having read that article. Yeah, you know, and it was often just things like an accountunt of what's actually happening in Congo right now, or you know, something unique and awesome and illuminating.
01:03:06
Speaker 2: Good luck finding that now it's gone on. All right, let's prodd some real time information about something that's going on here in South Australia. We received a pretty disturbing report last week about the algill bloom and the York Peninsula.
01:03:19
Speaker 3: We thought it was.
01:03:19
Speaker 2: Probably well over due time to get an update from the Environment Minister Lucy Hood, who joins us now.
01:03:24
Speaker 22: Minister, good morning to you, Good morning Will and pembon Oi listeners.
01:03:27
Speaker 3: So what is broad brushes the state of play. What's the latest information telling.
01:03:32
Speaker 2: Us about the size of the bloom, Has the heat had any impact on diminishing it? And is it spreading to places where it hadn't been seen previously.
01:03:40
Speaker 22: Yes, so we are still seeing those consistent levels of zero to low levels of crania across our metropolitan coastline, and so we've seen that consistently for a number of weeks now. However, we do have a hot spot in the southern York Peninsula and so we had our Algorbloom task force on late Thursday. We then received some updated testing results from the Southern Yorks Friday night and what they are showing. So this is off the southern tip of your peninsula. So we're seeing about four sites recorded an increase, two sites recorded a decrease, in around nine sites remained steady. One of the biggest increases was at West Cape, so on the western side of the Southern Yorks, and that had around two point five million cells per liter, which is around ten times the previous week's results. We also saw some elevated counts around Corny Point which is at around five hundred and sixty seven thousand cells, and also West Bay which is about five hundred and twenty nine thousand cells, but then saw some drops in a couple of other areas. So we have deployed over the last few weeks some additional testing into that hot spot area and also some additional field offices as well to assist with the cleanup scene. We are seeing that abnormal foaming event, vents and fish kills across the area.
01:05:02
Speaker 3: Are you are you confident, minister that this thing is going to disappear before winter or does it feel like, given those figures that you just listed, then does it feel like there's still enough sort of critical mass for it to continue?
01:05:17
Speaker 17: That's right.
01:05:18
Speaker 22: So unfortunately, no one can say exactly when the bloom will disappear or how long it will last for as we saw significant events earlier last year across the Metropolitan coastline, which we're now consistently seeing at zero to low levels, and we know that it's dynamic, and so we have seen it move west and right now that real hotspot of activity is off Southern York. So we're really just monitoring that really closely, looking at whether there's any shift west towards the Air Peninsula due to the ocean movements and environmental conditions. So hence, while we've deployed additional testing that's happening there, we have tested over the weekend, so should be receiving some additional test results either today or tomorrow. I'm heading down to Southern York's tomorrow we'll be holding a community forum at the Corny Point Memorial Halls. So I've been chatting to locals over the weekend, people like Lockie, who runs the Corny Point Caravan Park. He's also a citizen scientist, also Stewy from the Formby Bay Environment Action Group. So we're just going to head down myself and Professor Mike Steer, along with health experts and business support, just to talk to locals on the ground and make sure that we're providing them the most up to day information.
01:06:32
Speaker 3: Minister of lost track over the summer break. My brain has a habit of wiping itself clean every summer. But what what is? Can you remind me? What's the scientific consensus? Does hot weather kill the bloom? Is that where we're at now? Is that the hope the hot weather is bad for the bloom? What does it like about weather?
01:06:51
Speaker 22: That's a really good question. So when the bloom first started, we were able to identify one of the dominant species as being a species called Krann mickey moytoy, which we believed was obviously thriving in those colder conditions because previous examples of blooms had been that they dissipate after a couple of months. That wasn't the case with this bloom. We were then able to identify the culprit of the name to name the culprit of what was causing the brev toxins and producing those and that is the crnier species, Crania cristata, which there was a suggestion that it actually didn't prefer the warmer conditions. And so obviously we've had a hell of a lot of hot weather over the last few days and so it will be interesting to see these latest test results to see how it has gone given that we have had such hot conditions. I was speaking to I believe it was either Mike or Dewey down in Southern York's on the weekend. They said it was you know, the temperature was about twenty one when we were experiencing really hot weather. So that is why we are undertaking so much kind of research and science and monitoring through our summer plan and just to try and find out as much as we can because this is an event without precedent, and so hence while we're putting the foot to the floor and just making sure we can undertake as much science and research, we've got some of the best minds in South Australia working on this and trying to find out exactly how how these blooms operate, particularly now as we head into the future with you know, climate change and other impacts.
01:08:22
Speaker 3: So in short, that the Christata currenty cristata is the dominant algae that doesn't like hot weather and fingers crossed events like this week, we'll newke it.
01:08:34
Speaker 1: That's right.
01:08:34
Speaker 22: But like we said, it's a continuing research effort. We were able to find out this culprit preneer cristata because we backed research that normally would take years and we're able to undertake it in a couple of months to the University of Sydney. And so yeah, this is all part of kind of our summer plan making sure that we're undertaking that science and monitoring and research. And just for your listeners, we do encourage them to head to the beach safe app it just helps you kind of guide you where you might be heading to if you're doing a trip to the beach. But as we've seen zero to low cranier levels across most of the metropolitan coast, and you know, with this hot weather, we've seen a lot of people flocking to the beach and joining our coastal communities as well. With various supports that we've been offering through dining cashbacks and accommodation vouchers and also business support.
01:09:26
Speaker 3: Minister, thanks for joining us this morning. The environment.
01:09:28
Speaker 2: Mister Lucyhood there, the shadow Minister of a Primary Industries, A Nicolas said A Fanti is called in Nikola.
01:09:32
Speaker 3: Good morning to you.
01:09:34
Speaker 9: Good morning Davin Will.
01:09:35
Speaker 3: What's your take on where it's at mister in Tavante.
01:09:40
Speaker 23: Yeah, Look, you know, I think it's good that the ministers come on this morning because you know the government have strangely been very quiet on the Algo bloom front over the last few weeks. And that's you know, despite parts of the state's coastline outside of Metro Adelaide still being quite heavily affected. You know, as a minister out there's areas you know, such as Southern York's in around Corny Point, northern Ki and parts of Spencer Golf and you know, I want to acknowledge the advertised for actually listening to those local communities and raising their plight. And you know, the premiere apparently got narchy about when asked about the algor bloom by media, saying it basically doesn't exist.
01:10:22
Speaker 13: Well, it does exist.
01:10:23
Speaker 23: It exists outside of metropolitan Adelaide and when speaking with the locals on Southern York, I can say that they're pretty angry about those comments because you know, for these communities it's absolutely heartbreaking to see their usual pristine beaches, you know, full of dead fish and so sick, and you know to have their businesses stuff as so you know, I think the government really need to ensure that just because it doesn't exist on metropolitan beaches, that they aren't.
01:10:53
Speaker 9: Ignoring the problem.
01:10:54
Speaker 3: Nicholas send to Fanti, the Shadow Minister for Primary Industries, thank you for that. A lot of feedback about that interview, Mark says, David, I can tell you it's further north in Spencer Golf. I'm a commercial fisher who targets Kalamari in the Spencer Golf and in forty years catching squid all over York's I've never seen a decline in squid socks since December. Ever, the water is green and the color of tea in a lot of areas.
01:11:18
Speaker 2: I think it's something that was telling in that chat with the Environment Minister is now the government's willingness to talk to people perhaps like that texture citizen scientists, fishers and others they have first and experience, because it's now clear that their insight is the best. Yeah, they're at the cold face and they're seeing it. So I'm inclined to believe that text is one hundred percent accurate.
01:11:38
Speaker 3: It generally feels now though, that as far as Metropolitan Adelaide is concerned, it doesn't feel like it's much of an issue anymore, does it. But then you do get the right you get the odd day. There was that day at Henley. Yeah. Yeah, Sporadically it crops up, but they're not at Grange. Well, that's that.
01:11:54
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and World Goodings five double a Breakfast David Kosh on five double a Breakfast.
01:12:08
Speaker 2: Five The way could be a big burning a little bit later this morning for people with a mortgage at a variable rate, because we're going to get some data the fourth quarter CPI, the inflation data from the last quarter of last year is going to come out. We'll get the trim mean figure as well, which is the one that Michielle Bullock and the RBA likes to look at. There's a lot of interesting signals in the market, both nationally and globally at the moment, and there's no one better of making sense of it all than David Kosh, the Compare the Market Economic director of course put Adelaide Football Club chairman Kosh you good morning to you.
01:12:38
Speaker 9: Hey, good morning Jens. Yeah, it's a big week. CPI figures out today and then Reserve bang board beating next week to consider those figures to see where they put your interest rates up or not.
01:12:50
Speaker 3: It's going to be hot and if so, how close are we to a rate hike?
01:12:53
Speaker 9: Do you think pretty cos like it's the quarterly figure. These are the magic magic numbers you need to keep in the back of your mind. If the quarterly figure comes in at about zero point six point seven percent for the quarter, and that will be in the low three percent, so no real increase in either the trim mean or the headline rate, well then the Reserve Bank will probably keep rates on the hole. But the Commonwealth Bank came out yesterday and predicted the quarterly rate could be point nine percent. Now, if it comes in at that anywhere near a point eight point nine percent, then expect the Reserve Bank to see seriously consider putting up pinterest rates next week, because that point nine percent would give a headline rate of about three point eight three point nine percent and a trim mean. You quite rightly says the one in the Reserve Bank looks at around three point three percent now, that'll be up from three percent the previous quarter. So you know, if it comes in the hot light the Common Bank is expecting, then I would expect the Reserve Bank to seriously consider putting up inflation next week. It would be a bit of a shop for a lot of people. It's only a couple of months ago some of the pundits were talking about infrast rate cuts this year. They're certainly off the tabeksh.
01:14:23
Speaker 2: You would ask you a question that I broadly put to the South Australian Treasury yesterday about some of the headwinds globally and nationally when it comes to the economy and some of the data points that people are looking at at the moment that are raising eyebrows. For one, the gold figure. We spoke a bit about that earlier on the program. Today record high as US five thousand dollars an out. Silver has done remarkable things in the last twelve months. We've spoken about those as defensive assets with you in the past, but there's some other things now that are intriguing. I think the copper price is going through the roof, which is good news for BHP in South Australia, and the Australian dollar against the US is now trading at seventy cents.
01:14:58
Speaker 3: Against the greenback. Just putting all those into the past. What's the that we've made. That's right.
01:15:07
Speaker 9: For those people who went overseas over crystas, it was a very expensive holiday. When the conversion rate now it started to get easier when the kids go back to school, takes very much. But it is a reflection of one thing, and that's Donald Trump and the US economy. The US dollary is the global currency. It's weakening at the moment because people just don't know where the American economy is going. Some terrible consumer confidence figures came out of the US yesterday sort of multi year, ten year, ten year lows. So it's that the impact on tariff, it's the impact on Trump's inconsistency in dealing with the economy and dealing with tariffs. And a lot of them investors and particularly big European investors, the big their equivalent of superannuation funds, are going, wow, this is just too scary for us, and there's too much uncertainty in the US dollar, so we will fly to safety which is your commodities like gold and silver and copper, and also will start lightening up on our holdings in the US dollar. And that's the reason it's coming down. So it's all driven by uncertainty and the Trump reality program on the economy and financial markets hate uncertainty.
01:16:38
Speaker 3: Got you just quickly. You had a front row seat and Playton. Indeed, you played the lead role in one of the more unique AFL promotional and business exercises ever, taking the national game to China. Do you reckon the Indian push is worth exploring?
01:16:53
Speaker 9: Yeah, I reckon it is worth exploring. We've got to think differently. The tradition will say like they did with us in China, or if I won't take off in China or India, well we all know that. But it's all about building cultural tithes and it's all about the building trade and commercial ties as well. And you know that that worked a treat for us. No one could have predicted COVID or the trade wars between China and Australia. But you know those years really set us apart as a club and gave us a commercial niche En g Is is still a byproduct of that and our major partner because of the links that we built there and I think it's terrific. Give it a go, see if anything comes off off from it. If it doesn't, well you've given it a shot. And I think that's the way we've got to think.
01:17:50
Speaker 3: Absolutely good on your Dave, David Kosh, the Padlach and compare the market Economic Director David.
01:17:55
Speaker 1: Penberthy and World Goodings five double a breakfast after.
01:18:00
Speaker 2: A coming up very shortly John Paul Drake from Drake Supermarkets.
01:18:05
Speaker 3: It's going to talk about how grieved he.
01:18:09
Speaker 2: And the Drake family feel about being muscled out of Castle Plaza, muscled out in.
01:18:14
Speaker 3: His words, I had me muscled out. This is like a This is like being dumped by text message. Yeah, in a bad relationship where they thought that everything was going fine. Drake thought that everything was going fine with Castle Plaza and then suddenly they were getting the silent treat what's the latest on the least? Are we going to extend that? And suddenly the owners of Castle Plaza have fallen in love with somebody else. Woolworths, a non South Australian company, muscling in at the expense of a South Australian company.
01:18:45
Speaker 2: We'll talk with John Paul Drake about that very shortly and then Police Commission to Grant Stephens for the first time in at twenty twenty six will join said the first time we've chatted with in post Bondi as well, an event that's changed Australia and certainly has changed Australian policing. Lots to talk about in that. We've got some new crime data that's out this morning as well, and a pretty ugly instant involving a police officer that was assaulted with a glass bottle at Prospect. Lots of things to talk with the Police Commissioner about. As always, we take your text two on zero before eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. But first, it's stunt for breaking ate.
01:19:18
Speaker 3: Well, it's been billed as a victory for people power the decision by the company Tarak to pull out of its plans to set up a plastic factory in Old Roanella. But there are grave concerns that the manner in which this has been handled not only is an affront to proper process where a decision had been made at the local government level to look into letting this project proceed, a project that would have created many jobs, a project whose operators said was going to abide by all of the legal requirements, the statutory requirements through the EPA and everything else. But beyond that and most disturbing now, I know some of our listeners might have supported the campaign against this project, and they've got every right to do so, but some of the tactics that were used by the protesters were I think frankly appalling. They involved the targeting not just of some of the people who were advocating for this project, but even members of their family, where photographs of their family members were distributed on social media. It almost became a sort of hit list shaming exercise. And regrettably, the heat and anger and vitriol that came to poison what could have otherwise been a much more sensible discussion has resulted in a project which a lot of people said was perfectly sensible business project being shelved. Jeremy Blanks is the CEO of the company Tarat that was behind the push to open this factory, and he joins us this morning for breaking at eight. Jeremy, thank you so much for your time. I saw the statement that you issued yesterday and I've also seen the comments made by Bruce Gtay from the Property Council about this. It must have been quite a harrowing process for you being on the receiving end of a lot of this stuff.
01:21:19
Speaker 15: Good morning, Dave and warning Will, thanks for having me on your show. If I just clarify one thing, Tarak, which is the company I run, is the owner of the land. The statement that was released yesterday was released by Technoclass, who was the prospective tenant.
01:21:35
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yeah, I'm sorry if I got that wrong.
01:21:39
Speaker 7: No, that's okay.
01:21:41
Speaker 15: But having said that, your summary was a very good one. We're a long term owner of that land. We've developed progressively over the last six years. That application that was in the process of being assessed by the Independent Council Assessment Panel was consistent with the zoning for that land and we, as always are open to community feedback on any application that is related to our land. The problem with this one is significant, and it's because there was a two problemed attack. It was spreading misinformation into the community which created a huge amount of angst and stress among the people, and.
01:22:28
Speaker 20: It was.
01:22:31
Speaker 15: Sitting beside that was this horrendous personal attack on people anyone who had a view contrary to this small group of people leading the attack were shut down and were personally attacked.
01:22:50
Speaker 3: Well, some of the stuff that I've heard, and I'm actually as you're talking, Jeremy, I'm just reading from an Onkaparinga Council watch website that monitors a lot of the issues that emerge at the local government level down South, and indeed is something which historically has opposed some developments. But this website says this. It must be said plainly that this process was marked by unprecedented, unprecedented levels of aggression, intimidation, bullying and harassment. People who were even open minded about the project have been subjected to defamatory statements, conspiracy theories, sustained harassment, bullying, and coercive control tactics. Does that gel with your assessment of how this played out?
01:23:40
Speaker 15: I think it's a very good summary, David. And it was continuing as recently as yesterday, even up to.
01:23:47
Speaker 3: The point where the project was being shelved. Yes, it's extraordinary, isn't it. Do you worry that this is set a precedent where this type of almost you know, turbo charged Nimbia's and might be seen by some as a model for success.
01:24:05
Speaker 15: I am very concerned. I'm very concerned for that being the case for the rest of our project, but more so at a higher level, I'm very very concerned, as someone who's been involved in and around the property industry for a long time, that this is going to other people will look at how this has been managed, and I think that the property industry and the government need to work very urgently to look at how this sort of behavior can be shut down, because what it has the potential to do is frustrate perfectly reasonable development through processes and behaviors that are quite frankly abhorrent. But in addition to that, I have nothing to do with the planning system. Planning system is set up to be assessed on the merits of a project measured against the planning the planning system, and this was everything but that.
01:25:15
Speaker 3: I was reminded while following this story of the episode in Kingswood, Hawthorne area a couple of years ago involving the construction of a new hockey pitch co shared with the Ley High School, where some of the people agitating against it ran all sorts of nonsense online, saying that the AstroTurf was going to give cancer to people in the area, and it took off on Facebook and so on. Has the ability to distribute meaningful and accurate information been undermined by the ease with which social media can now be used to spread all sorts of fanciful and fearmongering stuff.
01:26:03
Speaker 15: Absolutely, and I've been surprised at how much power that misinformation has garnered and how quickly it's garnered there. As I've said through this process, if I were a resident and what was being peddled was true, I would be concerned. But the information was just not true, and our ability to be able to communicate effect thee with people to what the truth was was just simply overrun by this vicious campaign of personal attacks, not only on us or our consultants, but on other residents. Anyone who spoke up with an opinion other than it's got to be shut down was personally attacked.
01:26:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a pretty disparuting episode all around. Jeremy Blanks, the CEO of Turak, we really appreciate you coming on this morning for breaking at eight. Thank you for your time, Thanks for having me. Dave for your los A sound effect. Hey m Scott makes I think valid criticism of us. He says, morning boys, come on Dave five double as hardly innocent in this. I lost count of how many times one of the five Double A shows had the guy leading the protest on to spew the same stuff over and over. I'd actually reflected on that sky and I think part of the challenge is that if you're covering stories, you've got to try to cover them from all angles. And often we'll get contacted by someone from a resident's action group about an issue, and we'll get our listeners. We've got other listeners, some of them like we love like Quentin. He's an older and resident. He didn't want it to go. He texted this morning saying he's happy that it's not going ahead, and he's entitled to his opinion. But the issue is I think that what happened and with this was that there were people who were some of the spokespeople for it. Well, we're going on on the show in good faith. But after the event, it sort of became apparent that this had actually then, as it was getting closer to crunch time, it had spun off into its own man orbit, and you know, plenty of times where you talked to someone and then later on down the track you go you I didn't really know that. You can't know everything about everything all the time. But it's a valid it's a valid point that Scott much absolutely.
01:28:34
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and Will good Eggs five double a Breakfast David Penberthy and Will good Eggs five double a Breakfast.
01:28:42
Speaker 2: Twenty four after right now, this is an intriguing story. There will be no longer a Drake Supermarket at Castle Plaza, ending a two decade long relationship, as it will be replaced by a Woolworths. There's already a Coals at Castle Plaza, and John Paul Drake, the director of Drake's Supermarkets, has taken to LinkedIn to slam of the decision. He says, twenty years in store terminated without a second thought. For a significant period of time, they'd operated without a formal elase agreement. It ended nearly a year ago. They've been in negotiations just try to secure a long term agreement, but suddenly that negotiation fell silent and in John Paul Drake's words, only after our lease was terminated to become clear that Woolworth's had already finalized their design plans for this site, and they were paying an exorbitant rent to secure at Castle Plaza already has a coals. Replacing independent, family owned supermarket with the other duopoly won't create competition. John Paul, good morning to you.
01:29:43
Speaker 14: Good morning, And as you're politely put it, it's like breaking up via text, isn't it?
01:29:49
Speaker 3: Well, given that you've been there for two decades, John Paul, I mean, it's not like your blowings, you know, sort of you know, like the discs.
01:29:58
Speaker 14: We've been a great ten and we've our rent on time, We've reinvested into the store to the tune of over ten million dollars, and you know, to get this sort of response, was it a surprise. I we'd noticed something from the last two years, Since twenty twenty four, we've been trying to negotiate, and when things go cold on one side of the end, you sort of understand it's not going to end end too well for you. So it has been a very disappointing, to say the least. Not to mention, we have one hundred team members at that store, and we obviously are going to do utmost to redeploy them into positions and to other stores in the near in the hopefully around around the store.
01:30:42
Speaker 2: So how much all John Paul's willing to pay, Well, we.
01:30:47
Speaker 14: Haven't exactly been told that number, but I believe it's it's not quite double what we're currently paying in regards to rent there. And I'm assuming along with that the landlord is probably going to promise a whole lot of upgrades and things like that that they get with the party. I mean, what people do not understand is Cole's and Willis and when they do own their own centers, they are out there paying very high rents to the tune of I'm hearing up to five hundred and fifty dollars a square meter a to six hundred dollars a square meter plus, just so that would flush out any other retails.
01:31:24
Speaker 2: The reason I asked you, John Paul, was I just wonder have you been the victim of this sort of this sort of approach to get you out of really attractive retail spaces in the past, or do you fear that this is sort of a new tactic that could see similar upbidding happen in places you've got other stores?
01:31:42
Speaker 14: Well, there's no doubt this is happening. We have a few sites that we are very concerned about. Would be an understatement. And when you're paying such a high rent, I mean, if you're paying yourself because you're you're the landlord, and all of a sudden that becomes the benchmark, then what eventually happens, And I'm trying to explain this as simple as possible. Landlord will come to us and say, well, you know, Cosm Warworth are going to pay this a square meter, Well why can't you? Well, you know, if we're paying that sort of lease, then we are definitely not making money and we're working for the landlord. So what eventually happens is you get squeezed out. Now, if you look at the situation, if it's an independent retailer that has one supermarket and this happens to them, their whole livelihood is gone. And I'm not sitting on the on the soapbox crying about oh look it's poor us. I mean, unfortunately this is how some people do business.
01:32:38
Speaker 3: But because this.
01:32:42
Speaker 14: Story looks like we're addressed behavior, Yeah, we've addressed this with the A triple C. You know, they're very interested in watching prices. I mean, someone needs to actually watch the gates, because the gates are open for anything to actually occur. And I've been talking about this for a while and we've now called it lease stealing because well, when you take away the competition, you actually, you know, you're you're decreasing the competition, which is making the duopoly stronger. I mean, this isn't the free market, and it's the quiet strangling of it. And I think what people have got to understand and the price, the pricing doesn't start at the checkout. It starts with who controls the keys to the building. And for some reason it has fallen on deaf is and it's you know, I have a mouth, I will use it. I think people need to understand there's lots of things that go on in the background. Supermarket retailing is some of the toughest retailing in the country, and you know, nothing is getting cheaper. So when you look at how much it cost to build these days, it's so expensive to build, there's time delays, and so what that means is the attention then gets turned to, well, hang on, what other things are out there that we can do. Well, we can pick up leases at the end of these leases and don't get me wrong. We have long leases. We have ten years plus ten plus ten plus ten. These are the sort of options that are going on around the place. And when they come up, if the landlord's not prepared to even come back and give you a chance to a counter offer, then what chance? What chance do you have?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? No, it sus It's deeply sus. John Paul Drake, the director of the excellent Drake's Supermarkets, Thanks for joining us this morning.
01:34:35
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and Will Gooding's five Double A Breakfast coming here on to twenty minutes to night I for the first time at twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 2: If you watching on the Facebook on YouTube lives Drive, you'll see we're joined in the Fight Double A Breakfast studio by the Police Commissioner Grant Stevens, Commissioner, Happy New Year and great.
01:34:50
Speaker 17: Have you a happy New Year to you too, Wilton, David, thanks for having me back.
01:34:53
Speaker 3: Great to see your commissioner. What's changed since we caught up pre Christmas, hasn't it post bondi Ya.
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Speaker 17: It's an amazing series of events that have changed the way people feel about their own safety and what our community.
01:35:07
Speaker 4: Looks like going forward.
01:35:09
Speaker 17: You wouldn't You wouldn't fathom that we could have had such an event in Australia that would have had such a profound impact on people.
01:35:16
Speaker 3: And we've seen too the continuing polarization. And look, we're just chatting off here. Let's just preface all of this by saying, without wanting to sound naive or vacuous or complacent, but we are lucky here in essay, the climate, the discourse, the behavior of all of our different communities, and I include in that seeuth Australia's a Muslim community is much more civilized, much more laid back. Is that your reading of it?
01:35:52
Speaker 17: Look, I'd describe it exactly the same way I think we look at protest activity in the Eastern States.
01:36:01
Speaker 4: We just don't see that here.
01:36:03
Speaker 17: We have a tolerance is probably not the right word, but we are more tolerant of other parts of our community. We have I don't know, more cohesion, I think, and that plays out in the way we demonstrate for things we feel are important, and we don't see the violence, we don't see the animosity, we don't see conflict. People have their say and it's respected, and I don't know, it's got to be more than just being South Australia. But every time we look over the border, I'm always grateful that we're here.
01:36:37
Speaker 3: But I guess the flip side, though, is that we know you don't need too many people to ruin everybody else's day.
01:36:42
Speaker 4: And that's why we're still doing our job.
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Speaker 17: We don't let these events pass without a proper assessment of what the risk is. We look for agitators. We do know that every now and then we get agitators coming from interstate to try and mix things up. We have great intelligence processes and engage with people who are organizing assemblies or protests. There's a lot of work done for us to be able to properly assess the sort of policing response necessary and determine whether there's any elevated risk. So we don't have any level of complacency, and we're making sure that when people want to come into the CBD or whatever a protest may be happening, that they can do so safely because we're pretty much on top of what's happening and we'll step in quickly if we see things changing.
01:37:28
Speaker 3: Has bond I had any legacy or changes about the way in which you interact with our federal intelligence bodies.
01:37:34
Speaker 17: Well, that's part of the discussion I think National Cabinet are having in relation to more information sharing with some of these federal security agencies. We already engage quite significantly with them, but we're talking about how that might change in terms of assessing people for their suitability for a firearms license and making sure that there's a free flow of information between the States and territories and the Commonwealth agents that gives us all the information we need to make sure that we can be proactive when we're dealing with these emerging issues.
01:38:06
Speaker 2: Do you think gun buybacks like those talked about federally make South Australian safer.
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Speaker 17: Look South Australian's gun laws up until Sydney and Western Australia may change us to their laws, our laws were probably the benchmark for Australia. They're still very good. The only thing that probably distinguishes us and New South Wales now is putting a cap on the number of firearms individuals can own. And that's a discussion or a decision of government and I think it's probably going to be the subject of further discussions at National Cabinet about what the National Firearms Agreement looks like and what the appetite is for each state or territory to strengthen their gun laws. But South Australia is pretty good. You can't get a gun license without being assessed as a fit and proper person. We do have maximum time frames for lice, so it's one, three and five years you have to renew. Other states and territories don't have that where you once you get a license, you've got it forever. So we're continually reassessing. We have continuous checking on people suitability. So if you have a medical episode or you commit a criminal offense, including domestic violence, that's checked regularly and we'll go out and take your firearms from me if we don't think you're suitable anymore. So there are things that exist in South Australia that I think put us in a really good position. It is a decision for the government as to whether they want to participate in the buyback.
01:39:31
Speaker 3: This might be something else that you'd describe or dead bat as a decision for the government commissioner. But do you have a view from an operational perspective on the discussion around whether the burning of the Australian flag should be against the law. The Queensland premiers come out in the last day saying he thinks it should be. There was a flag that was burnt at one of the Invasion Day protests in Brisbane on January twenty six. I must have been I can't actually remember seeing it happen here in Adelaide. I might be wrong, but is it something that I don't know, Like, do you have a view about whether that is an infringement on civil liberties.
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Speaker 17: Or I think you nailed it on the head when you said I'm going to dead bat that one. I think it is worthy of a discussion. And I think if it is the symbol of our country and it means a lot to a lot of people, and I think there should be a discussion about whether it should be protected.
01:40:27
Speaker 3: And I guess too because often you see it at protests and it can seem to be particularly when there's protests and counter protests together, that yeah, it can be the trigger point for further escalation.
01:40:39
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
01:40:40
Speaker 3: I actually.
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Speaker 17: I hung a flag at our house on Australia Day and I went inside and my wife Emma said, I wonder if that's going to be there when we go to take it down to and I said to her, I said, it's interesting that we actually having a conversation about the fact that the Australian flag now can be a point of contention amongst people. It's our national day and flying a flag you should be able to do so or you know, without fear of having it ripped down or burnt.
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Speaker 2: So the police officers here in South Australia report back to you those out in the street trying to do routine policing work, issues with people putting mobile phone cameras in their face when they're sometimes trying to do their work. I mean, obviously I'm reflecting on a high profile and awful situation in the US, but I'm thinking about i mean, got the same devices here and people like the idea of getting stuff on camera.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, look, it doesn't happen to the same extent with what we've seen in Minneapolis. But I think that is that's a reaction to the behavior, the alleged behavior of federal agents enforcing their immigration laws and the way they're going about it. So the use of mobile phones has become a bit of a protest thing rather than a means to capture.
01:41:54
Speaker 3: Video TV station. It's yet more of a protest.
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Speaker 17: It's an intimidation tactic. It's trying to disrupt the ICE agents who have become the subject of this attention. Having said that, there's not too many events happen out there involving police officers interacting with the community where someone doesn't have a mobile phone out. Invariably, if police officers have to use force to restrain someone, that never looks good. Even in the most clinical circumstances, when you're trying to arrest someone who's fighting back, it never looks good. And the number of occasions that people video that on their phones upload it's that's another level of pressure that police officers have to put up with, and it's more investigation work for us because we have to investigate as to whether the use of force was appropriate. We always do that, but the selective uploading a video paints us in a bad light. When it's when you see the full extent of the event, you think, well, those police officers acted responsibly and professionally.
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Speaker 2: We got some crime numbers out this morning. It's a rolling data, so the rolling year on year data. It's from November the year previous to the November last year. That's right, And look, it's a pretty handsome set of numbers, I reckon from your perspective, the serious assaults decrease two percent, Robbery, blackmail and extortion offenses just decreased seven percent, theft down eight percent, residential break ins declined twelve percent. I'm gott to say, just from a statistical point of view, the uniformative uniformity of it makes me suspicious. Is there some sort of environmental or population factor at play here?
01:43:23
Speaker 4: We'll make up those numbers.
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Speaker 3: I didn't suggests it was fun news.
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Speaker 17: It's this is one of those things where we've got a lot of stuff happening. You can't pinpoint one particular thing that makes a difference, but it's the concerted effort right across the board to target receivist offenders, ensure people are taking steps to protect their own property and make sure they're safe. Yeah, we're just I think we're in a good spot, and you know, the crime stats on the rolling crime stats are showing some very positive outcomes. Having that, there is one there that does concern me, and that assaults against police. That's up the fact that we have more police officers being injured on duty is something that's concerning to us, and it's pleasing to see tougher legislation that will hold people to account for those behaviors.
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Speaker 3: Just finally commissioned. I can't remember if we asked you this at the end of last year, but were you upset that Cop didn't go ahead?
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Speaker 4: It would have been a great thing for the state.
01:44:27
Speaker 3: What about for you?
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Speaker 17: It was Look, I'm not sure if I said this on radio here, but it depended on what day you asked me. Being involved in delivering something so significant would have been a fantastic thing to be a part of and a great challenge. But it was going to be a ton of work, and it was going to put us under immense pressure, and it would have diverted us from a lot of other things that we would probably hope to achieve in the same time, because we would have had to push everything towards Cop thirty one and the logistics of bringing in thousands of police officers from interstate to support our staff. I'm not disappointed we don't have to do that, but I am you know, there's a part of me that is disappointed that we didn't get to deliver such a thought the biggest government led event in Australian history.
01:45:15
Speaker 3: So all, beit one that brought with it many headaches.
01:45:18
Speaker 4: From many perspective. I didn't have gray hair.
01:45:21
Speaker 17: I probably would have had by the end of twenty twenty six.
01:45:24
Speaker 3: Commissioner Grant Stephen's great to catch up again. We'll talk you against him again.
01:45:28
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and Will Gooding's five double a breakfast seven.
01:45:33
Speaker 2: Minutes denied from the Police Commissioner to the street Police. So we've been sent this interesting bit of correspondence, and interesting, I mean disturbing. In the glennel North Community Group, someone's left the picture of their car having been keyed, and a really disturbing note was a handwritten note left there that read this, this car park is for two cars, not just for you. So I keyed your front left hand fender. Do it again and I'll key all your doors, Signed Street Police.
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Speaker 3: What a small minded sod that's present to us from the Glenelg North Community Group. I'm just trying to see if I can find it. The extent to which people become so revved up about something like that is just I cannot, for the life of me understand it wouldn't it as you actually keying the car. Reflect on the fact that you just are a dictionary definition loser.
01:46:30
Speaker 2: Well you should ad Moseley Street is the area that happened. I wonder if it's it's a block style of handwriting that might be identifiable.
01:46:42
Speaker 3: I reckon the moment you find yourself writing an anonymous note. Yeah, you need to just reflect, have a bit of a think, even if it's polite, the moment it's anonymous, the sort of passive aggressive sort of I'm just reaching out to let you know.
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Speaker 2: That anger about where cars has parked is a very Australia twenty twenty sixth thing.
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Speaker 3: I reckon well, and it is part of it is because people's backstreets was something gone from every which is not to defend this in any way, but I just hold Fast Bay's marketing line for the new Jetty Road can be Glennelle now with fewer car that's yeah, I knowingly took them out.
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Speaker 2: There was a song in the Triple J HoTT As one hundred, a very vulgar song called Keith. I think Called Keith came fourth I Think or something, and I just music is art and art is a reflection of a society, and it just stood out to me as something that was notable because it was the premise of which was a guy in a neighborhood who's angry about people parking out the front of his house, and that the fact that everyone understands that that's it's a little narrative.
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Speaker 3: It's a story that everyone goes. I get that maybe there's something genetic makeup that we have to be angry about something. We're upset about something. So maybe in other countries you're upset about the fact that you know your whole family's about to starve to death, and that sort of concentrates your mind. If you're living in Sedan, for example, if you're living keys, you're worried about like getting bombed. Is it RPG going to hit my apartment? But here is like I'm so sick of that Toyota camera over the road. It's been there for more than three weeks. Just quick something Kristin from Roanella. This is a lovely text. The tone of it is great. I just wanted to say that I disagreed with having the factory in Old Roanella on the basis that it was a factory running twenty four hours a day in a highly residential area. It wouldn't have mattered if it was plastic or otherwise. But I am sad to hear that there was harassment going on by some residents, and I hope that their actions don't take away from the fact that a majority of residents just didn't want the factory. On another point, I'm enjoying this cool change thanks to Kristine. As we said, look, people are got every right to far off about things, but the manner in which it was handled left a lot to be desired, and the account that we got from from Jeremy after eight o'clock was testament to that.
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Speaker 2: Well, said Christen, all right, let's get to the fuel information before we let you go on this Wednesday morning. It's better to be a member with raa road service. The cheap spots the UGO Clearview is at a dollar forty seven point nine, the Solo Blair Athole dollar forty eight point five, LeRoy's Hack Them dollar forty nine point five, and the cheapest EZ one hundred dollars sixty the Solo nails Worth dollar fifty nine point five. Well, it's gonna be a little bit cooler, so enjoy that we'll catch you tomorrow morning.
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Speaker 3: Sound Chris
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Speaker 17: And this street
Speaker 1: Live from heigh Marsh Square. It's five double a breakfast deep in fam Bervie and will goodings.
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Speaker 2: Night after seeks, Good morning to you, and welcome to Wednesday on five double A break which you've just heard the headline. The temperature has a two in front of it. In fact, it very nearly has a one in front of it. Twenty one point eight degrees outside in the city. At the moment, it's nearly fifteen full degrees cooler than it was at this time yesterday. It is safe to open your doors and blinds on this Wednesday, the twenty eighth of January. Over the course of the morning, lots to talk about. We're gonna chating with a South Australian expat who has called Minneapolis home for the last six years, and I imagine that experience has been markedly different.
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Speaker 3: Over the course of the last two or three weeks.
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Speaker 2: Before seven o'clock today, imagine running Adelaide's own ice matter fact only my ice manufacturing business. This must be the busiest time you've ever had in your history. The owner of Victor Harbor Ace is going to join us before seven o'clock to talk about how they managed to navigate the weekend and keep up with demand. Similar questions for the Bury Hotel. The Bury Hotel where Barry reached forty nine point six degrees yesterday, pretty good day to slake your first your first at the Bury Pub.
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Speaker 3: And there's a really concerning and sad.
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Speaker 2: Warning I think out today from the AFP with regard to something families love doing at this time of year, with kids returning to school or going to school for the very first time, the sharing of pictures of children online. The Australian Federal Police are warning that there are the lowest form of creep out there, for whom this is sort of like predator Christmas, where they wake the seas on these pictures to do god knows what with them. So we're talking about that over the course of the morning as well. David Penberthy, good morning to you, Good morning, well, good morning listeners here. I've got to say that just doesn't even bear considering, particularly this time, early time of day. But yeah, particular type of creep, that's the that's the correct term for it, isn't it. Yeah, it is. It's concerning. So we'll talk with the should be the nicer side of social media in this closed environment with your family and friends.
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Speaker 3: You can share those sorts of photos, but I guess it's a bit of a wake up call about what your privacy settings are. Well.
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Speaker 2: The other thing too, that's that's interesting about the It's not just about misuse of the photo in so far as AI or stealing it effectively. It's also and I found this intriguing, the sophisticated methods that exist now, the tools that are available to determine things like, well, where do you live? What school do they go?
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Speaker 3: Well? Correct? I mean some of that's obvious.
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Speaker 2: There's a logo in a school uniform, but now there are street signs, front doors that, what's that park in the background. It's really easy for all that to be determined now. Ye, stuff that no one would have alder thought of as identify as before. So we'll get into that.
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Speaker 3: You don't need to be Einstein to work it out. I mean, have you ever played that game Geo Guess It? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Jo Guess It is great. It's an amazing you'd be good at it because you could click from the plants. I reckon ah, I stuffed up.
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Speaker 3: The other day I was playing with my son and there was a puntier which is a prickly pair cactu. It's a big puntier, the ones that grow wild in rural Australia. They're obviously originally from Mexico. And there was a For those of you who don't know geo guess, it gives you a still from Google Maps and you've got to work out which country it is, so then you get the map of the entire world in your guess and then it tells you how fair you are from the location. Occasionally you can absolutely nail it and it's the best feeling in the world if you go that is like Granada. So for example, where the Alumba is, you know there's a dead giveaway building. Sometimes you get lucky and it'll be a town in Australia and there might even be a road sign in the background saying hey, one hundred and twenty eight kilometers and you go, oh, that might be bal Ryannold or something you know. But yeah, no, it's a hell of a lot of fun. Yeah, it's really fun. It's good people that like geography. But often the clues you get clues in your head. You go, because the cactus I mentioned it was I thought it was a town in Mexico, and it was actually a town in Portugal where the cactus obviously grows. And when there's plenty of plants that grow all over the world that hailed from somewhere else in the first instance, but.
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Speaker 2: Third and alfter six who have our listeners ever owned gold? If you're invested in gold? How many people have bought gold before as an investment? It has been considered for all of eternity the most boring thing to buy. It's the kind of thing that's been bought because you want to have something safe somewhere that is always going to be dependable. It's never going to lose value. It'll protect you if everything else falls over. The price of ours is the price of everything else in the world. It's kind of always seen like a bond, like something when you were a kid your grandparents told you to buy, and now it's suddenly become the fastest growing asset on planet Earth.
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Speaker 3: It's the is it sold in bricks? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: This is I'd no precious little about it beyond what it means is something you invest in? Is there the one size as in you know the one, this one you see in the bank vault.
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Speaker 3: James Bond film.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, these are great questions. I'd love to know for any of listeners. Have you ever any point in your life did you buy gold?
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Speaker 3: And how did I go to a subway where you can get a brick or half a brick a foot long?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Foot long or six inches? Yeah, that'll be three hundred and fifty five thousand dollars. It's five thousand dollars and ounce at the moment. Love to hear from anyone who's ever invested. And we're going to be chatting with someone after just before six thirty this morning. SA Gold Traders owner Lee Chapman's going to be on the program. It's suddenly very popular. It seems very old fashioned. It is very old fashion, but it's kind of doing at the moment what people thought bitcoin would do when things get tough. But it's been goal but forgiven its history, I just want to have any listeners we've had that have bought gold.
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Speaker 3: One of our listeners, John texted in and he's saying that he bought an ounce of gold in nineteen seventy eight for eighty six dollars.
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Speaker 2: Well, and right now it's worth if he's still got it five thousand and ninety two US. Actually, so it's worth about eight thousand dollars Australian.
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Speaker 3: Then how did that increased compare percentage wise to housing?
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Speaker 5: Ye?
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Speaker 3: Not great? Yeah ah.
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Speaker 2: Oh actually no, no, that's pretty good. Yeah, let's say it's eight thousand. What did he pay eighty bucks? Yeah, eighty six dollars. So it's gone up one hundred times. You're not getting many hours. They've gone up hundred times over.
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Speaker 3: That, one hundred times in fifty years. Yeah, it's just true. Rob says it's an international lego day. I believe that is true. Yes, it is. And being Rob, he says, shops have got lots of great bargains out there. It'll be very popular to get in early as people line up for blocks. How good you say you're a lego guy? There, ain't you? You say lego? Yeah, like the rest of the world.
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Speaker 2: It's some in South Australian of you. Yeah, this is it. You know, my confused heritage. I don't have any South Australian parents.
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Speaker 3: No, of course one Sydney the most from Sydney.
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Speaker 2: My dad's from Melbourne. That's mom's from Sydney. So I never grew up in a lago household nineteen. What year do you reckon? The first Lego block came out?
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Speaker 3: Ooh, nineteen sixty something. You're probably right.
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Speaker 2: The patent was made from nineteen fifty eight, so they had this idea that they made that they got the trademark for in nineteen fifty eight.
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Speaker 3: Lago felt new. Lago felt new in the seventies and prior to that. I can remember as a kid, and I never already got into it, to my shame, but it was all Mecano like our older listeners grew up playing with, not Lego.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, city still exists. Just didn't ever get it. It's not pop anymore, that's right. John and Nance called and brought it to you.
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Speaker 6: John, Hell are you boys good?
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Speaker 3: Thank you? John?
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Speaker 6: So what happened? I there was a building in the middle of Adelaide, was a multi story building. I can't remember which one it was, and I went up there with my money and said I want to buy some gold and they came out with a little little round and got of announce that cost me eighty six bucks.
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Speaker 3: I said, so where did you do with that? John?
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Speaker 7: We just kept it?
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Speaker 3: And do you keep it in a safe? Where do you keep your goal?
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Speaker 6: No, no, no no. I just kept it in my drawer and then I I actually bought a I bought a kilo of silver as well, and then I don't know how much long later I sold the I went back down there, sold traded in the ounce, and bought a two and a half ounce in God, which was nice, and that was just it was a bit more rectangular, okay. And then a few years after that, I was married and I bought a house and I wanted to put in a driveway, concrete driveway, because I were up in the hills, and I it was it seemed like a good idea at the time. I sold my two and a half ounce in God of Gold and basically swapped it for a concrete driveway.
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Speaker 2: Well, probably not too I mean, you went to know that decades later it was going to suddenly search John. So it was probably a reasonable, a reasonable decision to make.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I sold that. I sold the kilo of silver as well. I didn't do as well out of that.
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Speaker 3: How do you go to do you sell them back to traders.
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Speaker 6: Or I just went back to the just went back to the building wherever. I can't even remember what it.
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Speaker 3: Was, right, Well, what interested. It was good.
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Speaker 6: It was good. It was a nice misty. It was like a little pillow. It wasn't like a coin. It wasn't and it wasn't harsh rectangular. It was rounded, and it had a little stamp in the middle of it saying it was from the Perth mint.
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Speaker 2: Wow, that's extraordinary. So it's a little, a little a disc and then something more like a bar. John, thank you for that. You've answered some of our questions about investing in gold. Perhaps the place you went to was the original version of what is today sa gold traders who were speaking to very very shortly about buying gold. If any of our listeners that have we'd love to hear from you. Zero four eight zero eight thirty ninety five will give us a call that eight double two three double o double Oh.
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Speaker 1: David Penberthy and World Goodings five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 2: Twenty two minutes after six golds in the headlines because of a surge beyond US five thousand dollars an ounce. It's an all time high price for a commodity that typically just chugs along, and it's something that's that's safe and pennable and doesn't see this sort of volatility, but the moment people are screaming for it. We're asking listeners, have you ever bought gold before? Chris in Ova Gardens, Good morning, Good morning legends.
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Speaker 3: How are you good, Chris.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I was traveling through Dubai and the wife wanted some earrings, so I reluctantly went to the gold suit And you know, it's just door after door after door, little shops, and I was adam and I was going to get ripped off, but I spending about it was eight hundred dollars on some gold, earing some diamonds. And when I got back, I said to the wife, can you just get.
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Speaker 7: It valued and whatever?
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Speaker 8: This is about two thousand and seven and it was valued a bit over three fairs.
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Speaker 3: Wow, well someone was ripped off, Chris, but it wasn't you.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, very surprised.
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Speaker 3: That's amazing, incredible. Yeah, and she still got them.
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Speaker 8: Chris, Well she has and I know exacinitely where they.
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Speaker 2: Are just in case, Well, they've probably just appreciated a bit in the last forty eight hours.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for that, Chris. Lee Chapman runs SA Gold Traders. Lee, Good morning to you, Good morning.
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Speaker 9: How are you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, we're very intrigued by this because it's suddenly the very popular trendy trade to make buying gold.
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Speaker 3: Have you guys experienced a rush at.
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Speaker 10: The moment, Yes, we've It's been very crazy over the last financial years up until from June. We've basically done all of last year's trading six months.
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Speaker 3: Really wow. So when people buy gold we're talking before, everyone has the image in their head of a single and quite hefty gold brick. But you can buy different amounts, can you not? Yes?
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Speaker 11: Correct?
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Speaker 10: The spot I mean the smallest one you can get is one gram is the smallest of pertment make. But you can go from one gram right up to the five kilo bars if you wish.
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Speaker 3: So those bars, the ones that are the stuff of legend in movies and so forth, they're five kilos? Are they know?
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Speaker 10: They're the bank of the bank ones. I think they're fifteen kilos off the top.
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Speaker 3: Of my head, fifteen.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: It would be good for a workout.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, my doctor says, do I lift weight? I said, yes, sort of.
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Speaker 2: How liquid is it as a as a something to buy and sell? Lee, Like, if you buy a brick today, can I walk back into you tomorrow and just sell it?
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Speaker 10: Correct. Yes, it's very You don't have to go through a conveyancer or anything like that. It's literal lea money and money out, so you basically get funds transferred into your bank account and it may take up to twenty four hours depending on who your bank is, but your it's very fast.
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Speaker 3: What are your clients, I mean you must chat with some of the people. What do they do with them?
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Speaker 2: Where do they store them? Are they sort of they are they special safe or places people store them out? They're all a bit like our former Carl who just kept using his top drawer.
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Speaker 10: I've had people keep it in their fish tank. I've had people keep it as a doorstop. I've had people put it in a volt. We have vaulting services as well, but it's really up to the consumer where they would like to store it. But you can have a safer home or a safe off side as well.
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Speaker 3: And Lee, what do you think without worrying, you know, trying to put you on the spot for some dissertation about world politics, what do you think is driving people's interest in Goal? Is it just the stability, the historic stability of Goal as an asset.
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Speaker 10: Well, it's not old fashion, it's just forgotten fashion. But at the moment, you've got a perfect storm really because you've got industrial demand, mining demand because we're not digging it out the ground as much as we can find it or we need it. You've got central banks buying it, you've got geopolitical instability that's driving it. So long story short, there's an over demand and a short supply. Yeah that's going to continue.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, good analysis. Fascinating chat too, Lee, Thank you for coming on at this early hour, mate, We appreciate it. Chapman from SA Gold Traders.
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Speaker 2: So there's fifteen kilo bricks. Then you've seen the movies. I just did the rough calculations. So five hundred and twenty nine ounces to a kilo announces five thousand US dollars at the moment. So what of those bricks you typic good seed at bake Vault would be about two point six million US dollars each one of them.
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Speaker 3: So I actually think that's good. That's a good super package, isn't it. One gold brick?
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Speaker 2: One gold brick? You take that, that's one gold brick? Is just I've the failed super tax changes.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right exactly.
00:15:33
Speaker 2: Let's have a look at the weather not as big a story today, thankfully as it was yesterday.
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Speaker 3: Don't tell Jim Charmers if you've got a fifteen kilogram gold brick you try to come up with a new arrangement. Top of thirty three today, which somehow sounds cool.
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Speaker 2: It is cool of them. What's going to be for the next three days? Tomorrow, thirty six Friday, We're back into the forties forty one on Friday. Then it drops away, thankfully, pretty quickly and somewhat dramatically, thirty two Saturday, and twenty four on Sunday, rug up twenty seven on Monday, and then thirty on Tuesday.
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Speaker 3: So much casse role. Yeah, that's right, much more pleasant. Anyone keep a witch about you. In Morialta, Michael from Woodford has been sending through some pictures of a giant tree trunk that's fallen right across the road. They're not sure which road it is, but in the Morialta area, a huge chunk and country lying there. His dog's having a bit of a look at it on their morning. We'll try and get some more information about that. Let's talk sport. Tom Range in the studio with us.
00:16:33
Speaker 2: Get to Augustina Mitsubushi, Nailsworth and Wilson Lakes with the Outland at Es drive away from just thirty nine nine ninety morn.
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Speaker 3: If you're any morning, Wie morning David.
00:16:41
Speaker 12: Look Alex Demonor unfortunately seventh quarter final at Grand Slam level last night. He's never been beyond one. It was a big opportunity, but he ran into a player that's at the top of his game. This is how the match finished in straight sets.
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Speaker 3: He's got a couple of match points. Simply a sensational match.
00:17:05
Speaker 2: From the world number one, and he goes through to his first semi final here at the Australian Open.
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Speaker 12: The audio there thanks to nine that was Todd Woolbridge. So our Kraz has won six Grand Slams already. He's twenty two. The only one he hasn't won. He's won each of the other's Wimbled and French Us twice. It's the first time he's been to the semis here. It feels like a matter of time. I've sort of tried to summon up as best I can. I thought Demon all gave it his all, but it kind of feels like a ten handicapper playing against a guy that's off scratch. They're occasionally gonna have a better hole or two than them.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, overall the good analogy.
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Speaker 12: He's trying, and I think he has improved. He might even be down to an eight handicap compared to our craz, but there's a real gap between our Raraz, Sinera the rest.
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Speaker 3: Of the Yeah, that's right, one and two and then everyone else. I saw the statistic this morning that against for as good as demon Or is against in and our Caraz, his record is none from nineteen Yeah, which proves your point, doesn't it.
00:18:08
Speaker 12: And it's not through lack of trying. It's just you know sometimes in a heavyweight about and you just outmatched. So he needs to go back to the world workout what do I do. How do I try and take the game on differently? You know, because our Craz and Center it does seem like it's it's their tournament one of those two, doesn't it.
00:18:27
Speaker 2: We're said for you mentioned our crass age, they're not going anywhere. All roads are going to lead through them for.
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Speaker 3: The next decade twenty two and twenty four respectively.
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Speaker 12: So you spot on and a bit of a shock yesterday late probably twelve hours ago, Lauren ar Now has stepped down his coach at Port Adelaide. So there, Well, they're saying family reasons, but it does look at least it's not in season.
00:18:47
Speaker 1: But curious timing.
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Speaker 3: Sort because you only resigned at the end of last that's right, that's right.
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Speaker 12: It seems a bit like a bowlder. Well, well, they did well two years ago, but they're okay. Last season they were better towards the end of the season, but the year before prelimb. So yeah, a bit of a strange one.
00:19:03
Speaker 3: Good on, you're ready, thanks boys, stop David.
00:19:05
Speaker 1: Penberthie and Will Goodings five double a breakfast, twenty two to seven, Police and Weather this half hour a little bit of a sneak peek at the weather.
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Speaker 2: We're not done with the forty degree days. Thank lit, some relief today, but there is another one in our near future. The Weather Bureau have all the information for us, very very shortly. Then after seven o'clock this morning, we're off to bear. We're going to chat with the hotel manage at the Bury Pub where it was forty nine point six degrees yesterday forty nine point six degrees. And then a little bit later in the morning we're gonna get update on the ALCA bloom. The environment is to Lucy Hood is going to join us. We've a lot of people using the beach over this long weekend. We've navigated a fair chunk of summer. Now, what is the state of play, What to the suggestion that it's spreading into coastline in SA where we haven't seen it before. We'll get into all of that with Lucy Hood after seven thirty. Wanted to get a sense of what life is like on the ground in Minneapolis at the moment. The eyes of the world have been on there following the tragic shooting death of Alex pretty intensive care nurse who've gotten an altercation with an ICE officer. ICE being the arm of the US government that's charged with finding a legal immigrants customs Excise, Correct Enforcement or excise. It's immigration customs of the first two. But everyone's been watching what's been happening in Minneapolis. The protests on the street have been massive. It's coming at a time where the weather, frankly couldn't be more different to what we're having here in South Australia. And we've managed to track down Shane Hale, a former resident of Whale here in South Australia who has lived in Minneapolis for the last six years. Shane, good morning to you.
00:20:50
Speaker 6: Good day.
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Speaker 5: How's it gone.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're good, thank you, Shane. Jeezus, Minneapolis, it's been in the news often for all the wrong reasons back home here in Australia. Justine Diamond, the Australian woman who was shot dead by police, then George Floyd, and now the last month with the ice raids. What's it been like living there?
00:21:14
Speaker 5: Well, normally it's really nice. I mean, it's a great place to bring up kids, and you know, really really nice. Although I was listening to your weather and it's a little different it's minus thirteen here, but you know, it's a quiet, nice place to bring up kids. But so this is kind of surreal, having masked armed sort of people running around and picking people off the streets. So it's yeah, it's very very surreal, a little scary. But you know, also, you know, things are just kind of going on anyway normally, so it's kind of it's really weird.
00:21:56
Speaker 3: I guess the thing is the reality in a lot of the big cities in the US, there would be specific parts of town where I'm presuming you don't live, which would be the areas where there's giant clusters of Latinos, who, in the case of these ice raids, are the focus of a lot of what they're doing.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, actually.
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Speaker 5: A little bit. Although you know, Minnesota is pretty multicultural, you know, there's I would there are sort of concentrated areas. I think actually what you're finding the here though, is it's not so much the Latinos, although that's obviously a big issue. The ice agents are really going after the Somalis. Yeah, we have one of the biggest Somali populations in the country, and you know they're picked up on that. And yeah, basically the strange thing is, you know they say that we're going for the worst of the worst, but there's so many stories of the people just walking down the street and an ice agent drives up and starts asking questions and next thing you know, they're in the back of the van. But you know, we had a situation in myself. I live in a you know, upper middle class area, kind of in the outer suburbs, and we had a seventeen year old get picked up at the bus station while he was on the way to school.
00:23:27
Speaker 8: Yeah, and that was in our suburbs.
00:23:29
Speaker 5: So you know, it's it's touching everyone. It's not like it's just concentrated in certain areas. Obviously, it is concentrated in some areas because you know, they go where they think the targets are, but it's all over the city and it's just crazy.
00:23:46
Speaker 13: It's absolutely nuts.
00:23:48
Speaker 3: The politics of it are obviously so intense in the US. As an Aussie coming from a more historically laid back country like ours, is it something we have to sort of bite your tongues sometimes, would just rather keep your opinions to yourself, regardless of what your opinions are. Do you have to sort of be a little bit sort of tiptoe around things to avoid conflict with workmates or even family and friends.
00:24:15
Speaker 5: You know, I would have said that about three or four years ago. I probably would have said that. And you know, during Trump's first term, you know, there was like if politics started coming up, you'd kind of avoid it. But now there's such a polarization. You know, you're either a Trumper or your anti Trump. You know, there's no real in between anymore. And so and you know, especially with the situation we got happening in Minneapolis at the moment, we politics is on the front of everyone's mind. You know, I run a company here and I've had to have morning meetings and talk about you know, what are we going to do when if ice comes to the door, and you know, what are we going to do? We had one one of our guys he had to leave early because he lives closer to where some of the more heavier action is and they let off a tear gas canister right out in the front of the daycare for his young daughter. So he had to leave work early to go pick up his daughter because they closed the daycare center because of the the.
00:25:26
Speaker 14: The gases.
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Speaker 5: So you know, it's so it's affecting work, it's affecting everything.
00:25:30
Speaker 7: It's just it's really surreal.
00:25:33
Speaker 2: Hey, Shane, as an Australian living over there, obviously you're not, as you've detailed, you're not the subject of a lot of these these ice raids. But I mean, do you have to carry paperwork on you? What if you got stopped and questioned about why you're while you're there?
00:25:47
Speaker 15: Yeah?
00:25:48
Speaker 1: I do.
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Speaker 5: Now I'm a Green card holder, I'm a resident, so but you know, prior to all this, I would just have my driver's license, and you know, I'd be fine. But I put my green card back in my wallet and so it's ready there if I need it. And my passport's in my computer bag so that you know it's there if I need it. But but you know, I think it's pretty obvious I'm not the demographic I'm going.
00:26:16
Speaker 1: For, so.
00:26:19
Speaker 5: You know, it's and that's the sad thing is it's like I've got a one of the other guys here that works for me. He's got a father in law that hasn't left the house for thirty years, for three weeks because he's been here for thirty years, comes from Mexico, been here for thirty years as a citizen, but he's just too scared to go out because he doesn't want to get picked up. And you hear stories of people like having paperwork or you know, having like things on their phone to show that they're a citizen or a permanent resident, but they're just not looking.
00:26:53
Speaker 6: They're just they're.
00:26:54
Speaker 5: Trying to cause trouble. And it's and it's you know, that's all I'm trying to do, is they're trying to create trouble and get a response and That's one of the things I've got to be really proud of is the way that Minnesotans have responded. I don't know if think guys saw.
00:27:10
Speaker 8: The march here.
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Speaker 5: There was like fifty thousand people that marched on a Friday last week, the day before the shooting, and you know, you might think of fifty thousand, you know, it's a pretty good march. Well, it was minus twenty degrees, and so to get fifty thousand people out marching and protesting at minus twenty degrees, that tells you a lot about the about the feelings here, and I kind of thought that that was going to be a bit of a turnaround. But then, of course, the next day, very next day, Alex got shot, and.
00:27:49
Speaker 16: It was like that was just a real real shock to everyone, especially seeing the video and then hearing what the official response was being just so a stat It was just so obvious that, you know, there's more politics in here than reality.
00:28:06
Speaker 3: So well, Trump seemed to try to change his language a bit on that, and I've been trying to walk back the claim that he was a domestic that it was an act of domestic terrorism. They're running away from from that statement. In the last forty eight hours, and I think probably because they realize public opinion is not is not supporting that line.
00:28:28
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think though you know, when you look at it, though, if something happens, you know, some police shoot people unfortunately too often, but you know, happens, but the first thing you see is like, we're going to investigate it, We're not going to assume anything. And yet these guys are going out there straight away saying that the domestic terrorists, and so you can tell that there's no real.
00:28:51
Speaker 16: Thought going on here.
00:28:52
Speaker 5: It's just, you know, let's cause as much mayhem as we can, so we can, you know, really so that we can and disrupt the midterm elections. I think, I mean, that's my opinion, but there seems to be the track that they're going on.
00:29:07
Speaker 3: Well, is interesting getting a first hand account from a South Aussi who's just living there, drawing your own conclusions about what is going on based only six years of living and working in Minneapolis. And let's say we don't have any Donald Trump press conferences saying We've going to crack down on legals from Wyala and gangs of South Australians are disrupting our way of life.
00:29:36
Speaker 5: But I've got to tell you, I think that's a pretty limited audience.
00:29:42
Speaker 3: That's right.
00:29:44
Speaker 5: I used to say there was three guys from Whaler in the US, but now I think there's two. As one of them went back, Yeah, I think I'll be safe there.
00:29:55
Speaker 3: No, Shane, We're good talking to you about Shane Hale, former Essay resident living in Minneapolis. A lot of feedback to that piece. There's there's one here from saying, morning boys. It's pretty simple. If you're not an illegal immigrant, you've got nothing to worry about. The problem is there are multiple cases of people who who are actually American citizens have been dragged dragged away, but there's dozens and dozens of examples of them being so heavy handed. I do agree though, with some of our commenters who were talking about the protester being pretty stupid rocking up there filming the Ice agents whilst having a loaded gun on him. But you know what's interesting, the Republicans are split about this. A lot of Republicans are saying, hang on a minute, since when is carrying a loaded gun being grounds exact to shoot you?
00:30:42
Speaker 2: I think that feels like a very Australian perspective. Imagine rocking up to an event with a gun. Well, I wonder who doesn't have a gun on that street in a city that has direct concealed carry laws.
00:30:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're allowed to. Like what the NRA's official line is, everyone's allowed to carry.
00:30:58
Speaker 2: Feel like everyone should be allowed a Yeah, you turn up to an event with a gun, you're probably there to coose struggle. Yeah, in America, large parts of America, you turn up anywhere with a gun, you just left your house.
00:31:07
Speaker 17: You know.
00:31:08
Speaker 3: I can't stand I don't. I don't know why anyone in Australia is barracking yeah about this, Like, it's not it's not our fight, and let's not make it our fight. Let's let's observe it and let's talk to someone like Shane Shane. Obviously. You know, the Minneapolis people have got a pretty anti Trump take on it because they're living through it. Maybe they've been brainwashed by their Democrat overlord. Who knows, But the idea that we're barracking hown't we just observe and discuss like that, You're no, The answer is no. Politics is just I don't know.
00:31:40
Speaker 2: I think it's a COVID symptom that hasn't been fully diagnosed and explored yet the wrong people's cod Yeah, I think it is long ideology, all right, let's check it with the whather bureau.
00:31:50
Speaker 3: Chris Kent is on deck on this Wednesday morning. Chris, thankfully a bitter relief in the air.
00:31:55
Speaker 18: Yeah, definitely, guys, much much more pleasant to night last night than previous We had a max so minimum of twenty one point seven degrees in Adelaide, still a little bit above average, so still not real cold, but yeah, much more pleasant than the the thirty four we had previous nights, so up in the air. The hills Mount Lofty had fifteen point nine as a minimum, so much better sleeping where. We've seen a bit of moisture increase as well. Across Adelaide as the change has moved through. Maximum today mostly sunny thirty three degrees in the city, thirty six in the Elizabeth, thirty two down at Glenelg and thirty at no longer twenty eight up in the Mount Barker. So looking at a bit of a brief reprieve from the heat, but we are seeing that heat returning by Friday. Maximum of forty one degrees forecast for Friday before yet a proper change comes through over the weekend and we'll see temperatures sort of back into the the heights when he's maybe the low thirties next week.
00:33:04
Speaker 2: Guys, good on you, Chris, thank you. Let's say to say Paul's and he comes to a Matte Brown's on the line, Matt. There was an assault at Elizabeth Downs yesterday afternoon.
00:33:12
Speaker 11: Oh, that's right, Will. The victim was walking along Coleman Road at Elizabeth Downs about three point thirty pm yesterday when he was approached by two males. The victim was struck with a wooden garden stake and sustained an laceration to his chin during the assault. The suspects left and would I see him walking back along Coleman Road and the victim of seventeen year old boy was taken to hospital by ambulance, so his injuries are not believed to be life threatening. But police attended the scene and investigations were ongoing, and it appears that people involved unknown to each other, so it was not a random incident. But anyone who may have witnessed it, it is asked to call crime Stoppers on one eight hundred Triple three Triple zero Matt.
00:33:47
Speaker 3: Also, there's been a truck roll over at Dublin that's right, David.
00:33:51
Speaker 11: Police were called to the area about one o'clock this morning after a truck had rolled No reports of any injuries or anything like that. Restrictions are in place with the northbound carriageway down to one lane, so there should be delays there for the next few hours, so avoid the area if possible.
00:34:09
Speaker 3: And a couple of people have been arrested after a break in at a balls club.
00:34:13
Speaker 11: Man, that's right, It's done, Australian will yeah back. On the nineteenth of January, police will call to a bowls club in durre Voice after reports of a break in and the theft of various items from inside. Detectives from murray Bridge the IB identified two suspects during the investigation, and on Monday police arrested a twenty four year old man and a twenty five year old man, both from murray Bridge, and a vehicle believed to be used during the offense was seized by police and has also been forensically analyzed. A number of stolen items were recovered and returned to the bowls club so they can continue selling beer at nineteen seventy three prices. But both men have been charged with serious criminal trespass and theft, and they've been granted ball to appear in court at a later date.
00:34:56
Speaker 3: Great stuff, Matt. Good work by police there. I can't have ade.
00:35:01
Speaker 2: Knocking over a bowls club is a sort of I can't imagine the returns are great as a prospective criminal.
00:35:08
Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't.
00:35:09
Speaker 2: It's not like Fort Knox or that jewelry store that we saw overnight where they robbed it. They pinched a million dollars worth of diamonds and so forth. What are you pinching at a bowls club? Carrot sticks, some cheese squares at about nineteen dollars.
00:35:26
Speaker 3: You're not going to find a gold bar in there, are you? I would have thought. I'll tell you what. Jeff t found a gold bar. He sent us a photo of himself holding an eleven kilo gold bar from the Havila gold mine in say in twenty sixteen, now valued at two point eight eight million. House.
00:35:41
Speaker 2: Should have kept hold of it, Jeff, that would have been good. I'll tell you what ice was like gold over the weekend. If you get your hands on it and keep it frozen. It made your life a lot more bearable. There's one place in South Australia that makes ice, Victor Harbor Ice. Barry Starkey is the owner and joins us now. Barry, good morning to you.
00:35:58
Speaker 13: Good morning guys.
00:36:00
Speaker 2: This last weekend for you sort of like you know, the last week of trading before Christmas at the central markets.
00:36:06
Speaker 13: No, not really, mate, We're a little bit thankful and we finally got some warm weather. We weren't that busy before Christmas. The weather wasn't in air favor at all, so we're trying to.
00:36:19
Speaker 7: Make up for it now.
00:36:21
Speaker 3: So it was a pretty quiet Christmas. Barry being being milder. News was news was quite cool as well, wasn't it.
00:36:28
Speaker 13: Yeah it was mate.
00:36:30
Speaker 7: Yeah, Charles got down fair bit on David Shoes mainly because of the weather. But yeah, it's got to take it as it comes, really.
00:36:41
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I suppose a week like this is perfect where you do. I'm not one. I bought I bought five bags of ice on Saturday. I bought two more on Monday. You know, when you get the sustained heat, people get into the into the rhythm of buying it a bit more. Don't they Yeah, they sort of do.
00:36:58
Speaker 7: It's a little bit it's too hot, people don't go out so they don't die. Ice where they need is round about the mid thirties that entices people to go down the beach had barbecues and that's where you where they get their rescues, and of course with the keys comes ice.
00:37:16
Speaker 2: Who are your biggest customers, Barie, is it hotels and petrol stations and.
00:37:21
Speaker 3: Things like that.
00:37:24
Speaker 7: Mainly petrol stations this time the year, caravan parks, liquor outlets, and we're starting to get into where the houseboats are starting to run, so they have a bit of a run on for about two or three months before it gets cold. But yeah, mainly the liquor outlets or our biggest customers service stations have a big, big impact as well.
00:37:47
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:37:47
Speaker 2: Sure, how many bags of ice would you still over a course of a really hot week lot we've just added.
00:37:55
Speaker 7: I'd probably say around eight ten thousand.
00:37:59
Speaker 3: Bags, eight ten thousand bags, yeah right, Yeah.
00:38:02
Speaker 7: That's not huge for us. We have that bigger week. But yeah, in the last week we should here in about eight days.
00:38:12
Speaker 3: Yeah right, we're talking the other day, Barry, when it was stinking hot, forty five degree day about the worst jobs to have, you'd have one of the better jobs. I'm guessing for a hot day. You can always find plenty of.
00:38:26
Speaker 7: A lot of people say that, mate, but so realistically, on a really you're in the air con and then you're out in the hotcome and I'm putting bags from the transport vehicles into the cabinet, and then you're back in the air con. Then you're back in the heat again. It's sort of not as funny or as good as people think it is.
00:38:48
Speaker 3: And it'd be physical work to you. So you're not exactly relaxing, are you.
00:38:53
Speaker 7: No, No, not really. Yeah, you've sort of got an unload two bags time, which is Jim kills otherwise to take you all day.
00:39:04
Speaker 3: How does your power bill go, Barry?
00:39:08
Speaker 7: You can have it anytime you.
00:39:09
Speaker 3: Like, Karake.
00:39:11
Speaker 2: It must be tough running a business like yours. Over the last couple of years with bills going through the.
00:39:15
Speaker 7: Roof, it's been extremely playful because that's our biggest out of Fluent's the biggest chunk of their profits. We would spend somewhere between sixty and eighty dollars a year. Unfair, Krake, And yeah, even though we have got a ninety nine killer watch system on the route, it's we still get these.
00:39:45
Speaker 3: Amazing great Jenny and Barry God's Country, Victor Harbor, Barry Starkey, the ice factory owner down there in Victor, David.
00:39:54
Speaker 1: Peenberby and Will Gooding's five double A breakfast light after seven.
00:39:58
Speaker 2: A good morning to you're joining us for first time on this Wednesday, the twenty eighth of January. Much more pleasant outside at the moment twenty one point nine degrees outside of the city.
00:40:08
Speaker 3: Totally ever, only a brief reprieve, they will it is. We're gonna be talking about it again all Friday when it's forty two again. Who knows it might be more than forty two. It could will be.
00:40:17
Speaker 2: The good news is after that though, thirty two twenty four to twenty seven for the weekend, so everyone's doors and windows can open and we.
00:40:23
Speaker 3: Can decompress a little bit.
00:40:24
Speaker 2: Coming up over the course of the next hour on the program, the Environment Minister Lucy Hoods going to join us. We'll get an alcoll bloom updates and concerning reports about potential spreads to other parts of South Australia. But what hasn't played out on metropolitan beaches over the bulk of summer. Has the heat had any impact whatsoever on the blue We'll get the latest science from the Environment Minister after seven thirty and before seven thirty the rumor fhile opens up. If you've got a rumor for us, we have some thorn Clark Wines for you, the shot Fire range, a triple pack Thorn Clark Wines, bootiek family owned and Barossa grown Thornclarkwines dot com dot au. You've got rumor, you can stay totally anonymous. Eight double two to three double is our number. Call Inspector Patty and m and we'll get those rumors to have some really cracking ones over recent towards the end of last year, and looking forward to hearing your rumors in the next fifteen or so minutes. Really disturbing story on the front page of the Advertiser this morning with regard to what is a happy tradition for families at this time of year, using social media to share photos of young kids on their first day of school, their first day back at school. Nice way of keeping the community and all your friends if you share in oh so and so child they've grown up, or they've shot up, or as you said earlier, I think it's a nice part of social media usage. Well, it's under siege from people who would use it for unimaginable reasons. The AFP have put out a warning this morning about people posting images on social media for a couple of issues, the potential curation of child exploitation materials, but also people who now can use fairly sophisticated tools to determine locations where you live, where kids go to school, and so forth, by things in pictures you might not immediately imagine give away markers of where you are, things like public parks or doors or buildings that you think are fairly nondescript but can be used to determine where young people are. We're joined now on five to bl a breakfast by ACU Institute of Child Protection Studies, directed Professor at Daryl Higgins. Professor Higgins, Good morning to you, Professor Higgans, Good morning. You know we don't seem to have him.
00:42:44
Speaker 3: Yes, we've got you, We've got you. I'm sorry, thanks for having me on not at all, Professor Higgins. Thank you. We was just rattling through all of the various threats, and obviously they have been well documented. What is the best way to avoid it? Would you recommend that the absolutest, sort of zero risk path of just not getting involved in social media at all, or rather, given that it is sort of the way of the world these days, and you know, we've often got friends to state, is it all about your privacy settings? What would you advise?
00:43:18
Speaker 19: Yeah, look, we do need to take a balanced approach, and we absolutely have to understand that parents, you know, really want you, for good reasons share those first day of school moments. You know, they are incredibly meaningful, and so we don't want to say don't do it. What we want to do is say share it in ways that don't also share your child's identity, their routine or their location. So it's about prioritizing those kind of choices that are going to protect the privacy of children without taking the joy out of parenting. And so there's some really kind of clear and simple ones. You know, avoid using full names when you're tagging you know someone, avoid posting real time because that can share location data, or if you are going to make sure you've turned it off, particularly when you're sharing that image electronically, but also think about the settings that you have on your social media accounts. You know, so have private sharing options where possible. So those kind of things help to really keep children safer. The other thing, as you mentioned in your introduction, is about what else is in the background. You know, so clearly having other children in the background is something you need to be talking with them and their parents about. But also having you know, clearly identifiable landmarks is one of those ways that can give away location information that we might not be front of mine thinking about.
00:44:45
Speaker 2: Is there a question here or is there a conversation around privacy settings on social media accounts? Do you think as well? So many people are public. I think some of most of my social media is quite public and anyone can get to it. Should we be trying to create more closed communities when it comes to what we share?
00:45:03
Speaker 1: Well?
00:45:04
Speaker 19: I think part of it is we have to call social media companies to account, and one of the ways we can do that is to advocate, as the E Safety Commissioner does routinely, is to have kind of privacy as the default setting. So yes, it's fine for people to choose to turn that off, but we need to know about what are the risks? So are there some warnings if we choose to go beyond that default privacy kind of settings, that these are the kind of ways that people might misuse that information, you know, and that needs to be done in a really low key but clear fashion. You know, we don't want to tend page terms and conditions, which we know, you know how many of us read those big long things. But there can be routine kind of warnings. So if you've turned off your privacy settings, do you, you know, every couple of days, get at least for the first few days after you've turned it off, do you get some little pop up notices saying do you know that these are the kind of harms that might accrue if you don't pay attention to privacy settings? You know, And unfortunately tech companies get away without doing that because we as a community don't value our privacy and we don't actually see the risks. And you know, you had in your introduction the phrase unimaginable reasons, and that's part of the problem is that we actually do have to imagine these reasons. We do have to imagine what somebody else might do. We need to understand how grooming for the purposes of sexual abuse can occur, and how tracking down information about a child and their location, their friendship group, their connections, their places is really really important.
00:46:42
Speaker 3: I think too, you, Professor, is one thing for parents in the slightly older age bracket, Like I'm in the mid fifties, but I've still got kids at primary school. People from my generation, we're not digital natives. It arrived late in our lives. We had no internet at school, no social media when we were young. So I think maybe the onus is on us to become a little bit more digitally savvy, because like, I don't really know what I'm doing with things on Facebook, Like I've got it. I've never put a photo up on it, but the mere fact of having it, I know other people post pictures that friends of mine who know how to use it, they put stuff on it, and I'll see things that pop up in the feed. But yeah, you know, we need to become a little bit more educated because I really go the faintest idea of what.
00:47:29
Speaker 19: I'm doing with it, absolutely, absolutely, just as we also need to as parents and grandparents. You know, I'm an older generation as well. We need to be thinking about child sexual abuse prevention and what is our role and digital tools that can either help us or place us at our children and loved ones at greater risk, you know, needs to be part of that education. And so I think schools can play a role because that's where many of us congregate, you know, that's where we have contact. It can be a good source of education. I mentioned before the Office of the e Safety Commission that has a fabulous website with some great resources. The Raising Children Network have some fantastic resources as well. So, yes, we do need to be taking the opportunity to get ourselves educated about tech, get ourselves educated about child sexual abuse prevention, but also agitate for our school to do more, Like is there strategies that our school could be doing to help keep us informed about you know, both the benefits and the risks of some of these new ways of engaging and sharing, particularly within the school community. You know, having some you know, established kind of principles or ways of communicating about the children in our school can help keep everyone safer.
00:48:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, all great advice and interesting stuff. Professor Daryl Higgins from the ac Institute of Child Protection Studies, it's really sort of both second nature but also something that plays on the back of your behind with things like a school school sport where it's like, let's get a team photo of victis and you put it up on your sports app. But then someone can get the photo and you just stick it up on their Facebook page and here's my kid. But there's all these other kids in there, and you know, on the face of it, it's all completely innocent, and it's pretty sad indictment of the way of the world.
00:49:28
Speaker 2: Isn't it that you even need to discuss these things completely? It is, but as the professor said, unfortunately we do. It's a seventeen minutes after seven. We're gonna check traffic and come back with more at a moment, including the Ruba file. It's about to open. Eight double two to three double O double is the number. If you've got one for us, we might just have a Thorn Clark shot fire range for you. Three quality wines from a wonderful winery in the Brossa Valley. Eight double two to three double O double oh is the number.
00:49:52
Speaker 1: Get calling now, David Penberthie and Will Goodings. Five double a breakfast.
00:49:58
Speaker 2: Twenty two seven got apologize, it's for a little bit of fake news before the break, I said, call in for the rumor file. Well, their phones aren't working, so that's going to be somewhat difficult at the moment and also makes the room file problematic. If we can actually get the rumors to wear, you could write us a letter and then we could read it out in a week and a half five working days when it arrives. How long does it take for a letter to arrive these days? Because you don't get daily deliveries. In your daily deliveries, I want to know how Amazon get things out so quickly. So I bought something online a new filter for a tap the other day. Within Australia it was five business days. Hence that number being forefront of mine to get here. You can buy something from Amazon halfway across the world and they'll get it to you in two to three days. The distribution network is just unbelievable.
00:50:42
Speaker 3: Well, this is why Australia Post to get and build that massive of course processing center using artificial intelligence and all of that out whether they'll hold in factor that's right, huree gigantic, biggest one in Australia forty nine point six degrees yesterday in Barry good temperature for a drink or was it? The manager of the Bery Hotel, Jeremy Sweet joins us, Jeremy, good morning to you morning, gentlemen. How are we well? Well? That is it too hot to even go grab a beer in that weather?
00:51:11
Speaker 20: It's pushing it. I must admit the lemon squashes went fairly well to start with the day, that's for sure.
00:51:18
Speaker 3: There must be a sort of sweet Spot's be like the iceky we were talking to earlier, Jeremy, But there must be a point where suddenly you see the numbers surging. But does it get to a point where suddenly people's going to I'm not even leaving the house, I'm staying home.
00:51:33
Speaker 20: No, they still come out and had dinner with us, and the trades still come in for their three o'clock knockoff, which was refreshing to see. We did have an event over the weekend where it was forty five with a few thousand people on the riverfront and they were definitely coming in in their droves that day.
00:51:50
Speaker 3: So what was it like this heat? I mean, we know the river land obviously has always got hot in summertime, but did it did it feel uniquely uniquely boiling this week.
00:52:02
Speaker 20: I must admit it was hot, but I mean my girls still trained basketball last night. So still took the daughters to basketball training in forty nine degree weather. I'm not quite sure if their conditioned stadium was sitting about thirty degrees, so it wasn't too bad. I think when weather Zone shows it as a purple temperature number instead of the red one, everyone gets a bit oh it's a little bit hotter.
00:52:29
Speaker 3: So how is life in Bury? I've been to Berry for years. I've got to get back up to the river Land. Absolutely love it up there. But it's become a bit more touristy, hasn't it. You've got a bit of a bit more more food and wine destinations popping up, and I know that the pubs are at the forefront of you know, a lot of the excellent gastronomy in the area.
00:52:48
Speaker 20: Yeah, the community hotels in the region really do a good job. And then the local producers, I mean, the food and wine that we've got second to none in the Riverland and we're keeping it all alive in forty nine degree weather, which is fantastic.
00:53:02
Speaker 3: Well, mate, you got a couple of days of respite before it fires up again on Friday. We're going for forty one here in town, so you'll probably exceed that easily, I would imagine.
00:53:13
Speaker 20: I think we're forty one today too, so I mean I didn't hear the radio this morning, but I'm not quite sure if forty one is a cool change, but we'll definitely take.
00:53:22
Speaker 3: I think it is. It's almost nine full degrees from where you were yesterday. Unbelievable. We might need the jumper jeez, you wouldn't want to be changing a keg or carrying one downstairs.
00:53:34
Speaker 20: It was warm outside and let's not sugar curt it. It was definitely hot in the river Land yesterday.
00:53:40
Speaker 3: Beautiful part of the world though. Good on to Jeremy. Good chat with you mate.
00:53:43
Speaker 2: Thanks Jemmer, enjoy the Jereby Sweet the manager of the magnificent Bury Hotel and a beautiful part of South Australia.
00:53:51
Speaker 3: Now I think the foods are working. Yes, we're back.
00:53:53
Speaker 2: So should we get a roomor going eight? Double two to three double o double? Oh was the number yet? Calling right now? If you've got a room be for us. We have shot five wines to give away for you. The wonderful Shopfire range thanks to the great people at thorn Clark Wines in the Brossa Valley. If you call in now with a rumor, it could be you that walks away with that triple pack of wines. Bootseek Family owner Brossa grown, Thornclarkwines dot com dot au. Twenty six minutes after seven the rumor fhile is officially open eight double two to three double O double O. As the numb I've got center room with the other day about what was described as a clandestine meeting between the Premiere of South Australia and the head of the Nurses Federation, Elizabeth de'.
00:54:38
Speaker 3: Bars, happening in a very out of the way location. Plenty to talk about those two they do and they did it. I'll just read it out.
00:54:49
Speaker 2: In Fullerton on Saturday of the long weekend, mind you, hot day and things got hot at this meeting. Apparently, Elizabeth Debars and two other women met with the Premiere and had what was described as serious and animated talks. Mister Barrs dominated much of the conversation. The Premier did some talking. There was tension that was palpable. The venue was really out of the way. Fullerton's interesting spot for this to take place. There was no one in the area Saturday of the Long weekend and it was very frank and someone with a keen eye saw the entire thing unfold. Now time is interesting election campaign. We know how prominent Health was four years ago at this time and there was an EBA meeting, discussion and negotiation going on at the moment.
00:55:44
Speaker 3: Maybe the conversation went along the lines I've listened. If we don't get a decent offer from you guys, the last thing you would want is a massive fight with the nurses in the midst of the election campaign. Given the huge public good will that exists towards nurses, we want talking here about the CFMU. It's a much harder campaign for the government to win. They've got a lot of leverage at the moment. The nurses, yeah, massively.
00:56:10
Speaker 2: They're just an interesting one who've played out in the heat of the long weekend. Eight double two to three double o double.
00:56:15
Speaker 3: OK.
00:56:15
Speaker 2: We've got the phones look like they're working because I can see some people calling in. If you've got a roomor for us, we might have a some of the magnificent Thorn and Clark range of wines for you.
00:56:24
Speaker 3: Hey, stay listening.
00:56:25
Speaker 2: In an hour's time, the Police Commission is going to join us Grant stevens our first check in of twenty twenty six, and the word of policing has changed a lot since the end of last year, so we're looking forward to that chat.
00:56:34
Speaker 3: A little bit later. Bank teller is on the line. Bank Telly, you've got a roomor for us?
00:56:39
Speaker 21: Yes, I have. As long as I can remember. There's been a building society in Blackwood and it got taken over last year by a bank, and everybody in the district or nothood is. I was bitching to my headdresser about it, about the inconvenience and how the old and the disabled and all of us are going to be so so inconvenienced, and she said, my cousin works for one of the top banks, and she was saying, at Christmas dinner he told the whole family that all banks are aiming to shut every branch every atm and have everything done online and on your phone. Nothing.
00:57:28
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well it's such a believable rumor. Yeah, completely.
00:57:33
Speaker 21: And I'm just horrified because I have a friend and she's not that old. Her husband died young, and she doesn't have a computer. She doesn't have a mobile phone. How in the hell is she going to do banking?
00:57:47
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, thank you, bank tell I think that's a that's a solid rumor. I mean, you have that I went into.
00:57:51
Speaker 2: I'd probably go into a bank branch once a year and maybe that's a sign of why things are going the way they are. But I did at the end of last year, had to bank a check. And you have the weird scenario now where the person in the line will come along if there's a big line. There's always a big line up these days and say and ask every what they want to do, and if it is something that can be done digitally, they'll say, ohy, don't we just do it over your phone over here? Or why don't we do it go out to the ATM.
00:58:15
Speaker 3: You don't need to come in to do that, and so everything's just wanted to get out of the building as well completely.
00:58:20
Speaker 2: So it's a sort of in store training module to mean to make you not need to come in store anymore.
00:58:27
Speaker 3: Are you familiar with the international banking entity called WISE for moving shuffling money around okas And it's taken off because you don't have to pay anywhere near the same level of fees you would if you were shifting money out of an Australian bank and paying somebody overseas in a foreign currency. So it started off specifically as that, but now people are using it as their own bank, and it's not purely a website. There's no office, there's no one to call like. It's just it's a website. And it's become a significant threat to the sort of traditional bangs that are still bricks and mortar to a degree, but just sort of been getting away with charging these fees for international transfers for years, but now it's letting people use it to put their savings into it. At some point it might even start doing mortgages. Maybe it already does. But it's interesting, and it's got no physical present anywhere. Yeah, it seems like the wave things. Our phones stop working about five minutes ago, so we still have some rumors coming in late. What we're going to do is we'll take a break five to blow news on the way. It will take some more rumors, So right after the break.
00:59:36
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and World Goodings five double a Breakfast's.
00:59:41
Speaker 2: Twenty one minutes to eight Cooshi's coming up before eight o'clock. Inflation data comes out a little bit later this morning. Will it point to an early rate hike this year? Be plenty for the RBA to digest. We'll get a full preview from Koshi very very shortly. The police commissioner coming on after a thirty already some terrific text coming through for him on the text lines for eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. We've extended out the rimfire as well because in the last half hour we were operating sands.
01:00:06
Speaker 3: Phones, which is difficult. Songs song song song the Francophiles out there, so we had no phones and they are phones are our working. So if you'd like to call us, let's do it in English.
01:00:20
Speaker 2: Eight double two to three double O double oh is the number and you will now be able to get through if you couldn't in the last half hours. I you've got a room for us. You can feel free to give us a blozoz. Plenty of text of coming through.
01:00:31
Speaker 3: Though one from Justin. We provided a photograph. It looks like a Mark Rothko painting. Check out this fog At Mount compass all the way from a Chunga and it's got this amazing sort of sandy base at the bottom of the image, which is the paddox, and then above it it's just like this thick, thick fog showing the mixed bag of weather that we're getting all around the state. Like a commentary to around the social media in if you in light of the warning by the AFP, Tom in Sterling says, boys, I've dumped all social media and I've never been happier. It's a wormhole and I've missed nothing. I haven't been on Twitter for about three years now. I've still got an account. I must admit that the night that Travis Head made his century in Perth, I briefly re entered Twitter, broke my three year drought and just got on there. I might have been somewhat excited and in a state of advance refreshment, but I got on there and I wrote I'm returning to Twitter to say one thing, and then I just wrote, in all caps trash. I was always a huge Twitter user and X that's what it used to be fun. It used to be a fun well, really usefully for work.
01:01:49
Speaker 2: But there's been two examples, and it was predates the protests in a ra but There's been two major events news wise that happened in the last three months, and I thought what I'd historically do would go on and get real time accounts from people on the ground, journalists and others and get a real sense of what's going on when the war in Ukraine broke out and so forth. But now I can get real time accounts of what people think about what's going on, and it just says, no use for news anymore.
01:02:16
Speaker 3: It's just a it's been overrun by ideologus and chatbots totally. It's totally useless. Now it's just a conversation. It's an argument. Yeah, it has no utility anymore. Whereas it used to open it and you'd find, like remember the great ABC broadcaster Mark Colvin, like following him at Colvineus was one of the pleasures of Twitter because Mark, who was the most voracious reader of anybody I've ever known. He would every day put up links to like seven amazing articles that he'd read, and they were from right across the ideological spectrum, from different magazines with different agendas, different newspapers with different agendas, and you'd you'd look at everything Mark had put up and go, I'm so I feel so much better for having read that article. Yeah, you know, and it was often just things like an accountunt of what's actually happening in Congo right now, or you know, something unique and awesome and illuminating.
01:03:06
Speaker 2: Good luck finding that now it's gone on. All right, let's prodd some real time information about something that's going on here in South Australia. We received a pretty disturbing report last week about the algill bloom and the York Peninsula.
01:03:19
Speaker 3: We thought it was.
01:03:19
Speaker 2: Probably well over due time to get an update from the Environment Minister Lucy Hood, who joins us now.
01:03:24
Speaker 22: Minister, good morning to you, Good morning Will and pembon Oi listeners.
01:03:27
Speaker 3: So what is broad brushes the state of play. What's the latest information telling.
01:03:32
Speaker 2: Us about the size of the bloom, Has the heat had any impact on diminishing it? And is it spreading to places where it hadn't been seen previously.
01:03:40
Speaker 22: Yes, so we are still seeing those consistent levels of zero to low levels of crania across our metropolitan coastline, and so we've seen that consistently for a number of weeks now. However, we do have a hot spot in the southern York Peninsula and so we had our Algorbloom task force on late Thursday. We then received some updated testing results from the Southern Yorks Friday night and what they are showing. So this is off the southern tip of your peninsula. So we're seeing about four sites recorded an increase, two sites recorded a decrease, in around nine sites remained steady. One of the biggest increases was at West Cape, so on the western side of the Southern Yorks, and that had around two point five million cells per liter, which is around ten times the previous week's results. We also saw some elevated counts around Corny Point which is at around five hundred and sixty seven thousand cells, and also West Bay which is about five hundred and twenty nine thousand cells, but then saw some drops in a couple of other areas. So we have deployed over the last few weeks some additional testing into that hot spot area and also some additional field offices as well to assist with the cleanup scene. We are seeing that abnormal foaming event, vents and fish kills across the area.
01:05:02
Speaker 3: Are you are you confident, minister that this thing is going to disappear before winter or does it feel like, given those figures that you just listed, then does it feel like there's still enough sort of critical mass for it to continue?
01:05:17
Speaker 17: That's right.
01:05:18
Speaker 22: So unfortunately, no one can say exactly when the bloom will disappear or how long it will last for as we saw significant events earlier last year across the Metropolitan coastline, which we're now consistently seeing at zero to low levels, and we know that it's dynamic, and so we have seen it move west and right now that real hotspot of activity is off Southern York. So we're really just monitoring that really closely, looking at whether there's any shift west towards the Air Peninsula due to the ocean movements and environmental conditions. So hence, while we've deployed additional testing that's happening there, we have tested over the weekend, so should be receiving some additional test results either today or tomorrow. I'm heading down to Southern York's tomorrow we'll be holding a community forum at the Corny Point Memorial Halls. So I've been chatting to locals over the weekend, people like Lockie, who runs the Corny Point Caravan Park. He's also a citizen scientist, also Stewy from the Formby Bay Environment Action Group. So we're just going to head down myself and Professor Mike Steer, along with health experts and business support, just to talk to locals on the ground and make sure that we're providing them the most up to day information.
01:06:32
Speaker 3: Minister of lost track over the summer break. My brain has a habit of wiping itself clean every summer. But what what is? Can you remind me? What's the scientific consensus? Does hot weather kill the bloom? Is that where we're at now? Is that the hope the hot weather is bad for the bloom? What does it like about weather?
01:06:51
Speaker 22: That's a really good question. So when the bloom first started, we were able to identify one of the dominant species as being a species called Krann mickey moytoy, which we believed was obviously thriving in those colder conditions because previous examples of blooms had been that they dissipate after a couple of months. That wasn't the case with this bloom. We were then able to identify the culprit of the name to name the culprit of what was causing the brev toxins and producing those and that is the crnier species, Crania cristata, which there was a suggestion that it actually didn't prefer the warmer conditions. And so obviously we've had a hell of a lot of hot weather over the last few days and so it will be interesting to see these latest test results to see how it has gone given that we have had such hot conditions. I was speaking to I believe it was either Mike or Dewey down in Southern York's on the weekend. They said it was you know, the temperature was about twenty one when we were experiencing really hot weather. So that is why we are undertaking so much kind of research and science and monitoring through our summer plan and just to try and find out as much as we can because this is an event without precedent, and so hence while we're putting the foot to the floor and just making sure we can undertake as much science and research, we've got some of the best minds in South Australia working on this and trying to find out exactly how how these blooms operate, particularly now as we head into the future with you know, climate change and other impacts.
01:08:22
Speaker 3: So in short, that the Christata currenty cristata is the dominant algae that doesn't like hot weather and fingers crossed events like this week, we'll newke it.
01:08:34
Speaker 1: That's right.
01:08:34
Speaker 22: But like we said, it's a continuing research effort. We were able to find out this culprit preneer cristata because we backed research that normally would take years and we're able to undertake it in a couple of months to the University of Sydney. And so yeah, this is all part of kind of our summer plan making sure that we're undertaking that science and monitoring and research. And just for your listeners, we do encourage them to head to the beach safe app it just helps you kind of guide you where you might be heading to if you're doing a trip to the beach. But as we've seen zero to low cranier levels across most of the metropolitan coast, and you know, with this hot weather, we've seen a lot of people flocking to the beach and joining our coastal communities as well. With various supports that we've been offering through dining cashbacks and accommodation vouchers and also business support.
01:09:26
Speaker 3: Minister, thanks for joining us this morning. The environment.
01:09:28
Speaker 2: Mister Lucyhood there, the shadow Minister of a Primary Industries, A Nicolas said A Fanti is called in Nikola.
01:09:32
Speaker 3: Good morning to you.
01:09:34
Speaker 9: Good morning Davin Will.
01:09:35
Speaker 3: What's your take on where it's at mister in Tavante.
01:09:40
Speaker 23: Yeah, Look, you know, I think it's good that the ministers come on this morning because you know the government have strangely been very quiet on the Algo bloom front over the last few weeks. And that's you know, despite parts of the state's coastline outside of Metro Adelaide still being quite heavily affected. You know, as a minister out there's areas you know, such as Southern York's in around Corny Point, northern Ki and parts of Spencer Golf and you know, I want to acknowledge the advertised for actually listening to those local communities and raising their plight. And you know, the premiere apparently got narchy about when asked about the algor bloom by media, saying it basically doesn't exist.
01:10:22
Speaker 13: Well, it does exist.
01:10:23
Speaker 23: It exists outside of metropolitan Adelaide and when speaking with the locals on Southern York, I can say that they're pretty angry about those comments because you know, for these communities it's absolutely heartbreaking to see their usual pristine beaches, you know, full of dead fish and so sick, and you know to have their businesses stuff as so you know, I think the government really need to ensure that just because it doesn't exist on metropolitan beaches, that they aren't.
01:10:53
Speaker 9: Ignoring the problem.
01:10:54
Speaker 3: Nicholas send to Fanti, the Shadow Minister for Primary Industries, thank you for that. A lot of feedback about that interview, Mark says, David, I can tell you it's further north in Spencer Golf. I'm a commercial fisher who targets Kalamari in the Spencer Golf and in forty years catching squid all over York's I've never seen a decline in squid socks since December. Ever, the water is green and the color of tea in a lot of areas.
01:11:18
Speaker 2: I think it's something that was telling in that chat with the Environment Minister is now the government's willingness to talk to people perhaps like that texture citizen scientists, fishers and others they have first and experience, because it's now clear that their insight is the best. Yeah, they're at the cold face and they're seeing it. So I'm inclined to believe that text is one hundred percent accurate.
01:11:38
Speaker 3: It generally feels now though, that as far as Metropolitan Adelaide is concerned, it doesn't feel like it's much of an issue anymore, does it. But then you do get the right you get the odd day. There was that day at Henley. Yeah. Yeah, Sporadically it crops up, but they're not at Grange. Well, that's that.
01:11:54
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and World Goodings five double a Breakfast David Kosh on five double a Breakfast.
01:12:08
Speaker 2: Five The way could be a big burning a little bit later this morning for people with a mortgage at a variable rate, because we're going to get some data the fourth quarter CPI, the inflation data from the last quarter of last year is going to come out. We'll get the trim mean figure as well, which is the one that Michielle Bullock and the RBA likes to look at. There's a lot of interesting signals in the market, both nationally and globally at the moment, and there's no one better of making sense of it all than David Kosh, the Compare the Market Economic director of course put Adelaide Football Club chairman Kosh you good morning to you.
01:12:38
Speaker 9: Hey, good morning Jens. Yeah, it's a big week. CPI figures out today and then Reserve bang board beating next week to consider those figures to see where they put your interest rates up or not.
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Speaker 3: It's going to be hot and if so, how close are we to a rate hike?
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Speaker 9: Do you think pretty cos like it's the quarterly figure. These are the magic magic numbers you need to keep in the back of your mind. If the quarterly figure comes in at about zero point six point seven percent for the quarter, and that will be in the low three percent, so no real increase in either the trim mean or the headline rate, well then the Reserve Bank will probably keep rates on the hole. But the Commonwealth Bank came out yesterday and predicted the quarterly rate could be point nine percent. Now, if it comes in at that anywhere near a point eight point nine percent, then expect the Reserve Bank to see seriously consider putting up pinterest rates next week, because that point nine percent would give a headline rate of about three point eight three point nine percent and a trim mean. You quite rightly says the one in the Reserve Bank looks at around three point three percent now, that'll be up from three percent the previous quarter. So you know, if it comes in the hot light the Common Bank is expecting, then I would expect the Reserve Bank to seriously consider putting up inflation next week. It would be a bit of a shop for a lot of people. It's only a couple of months ago some of the pundits were talking about infrast rate cuts this year. They're certainly off the tabeksh.
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Speaker 2: You would ask you a question that I broadly put to the South Australian Treasury yesterday about some of the headwinds globally and nationally when it comes to the economy and some of the data points that people are looking at at the moment that are raising eyebrows. For one, the gold figure. We spoke a bit about that earlier on the program. Today record high as US five thousand dollars an out. Silver has done remarkable things in the last twelve months. We've spoken about those as defensive assets with you in the past, but there's some other things now that are intriguing. I think the copper price is going through the roof, which is good news for BHP in South Australia, and the Australian dollar against the US is now trading at seventy cents.
01:14:58
Speaker 3: Against the greenback. Just putting all those into the past. What's the that we've made. That's right.
01:15:07
Speaker 9: For those people who went overseas over crystas, it was a very expensive holiday. When the conversion rate now it started to get easier when the kids go back to school, takes very much. But it is a reflection of one thing, and that's Donald Trump and the US economy. The US dollary is the global currency. It's weakening at the moment because people just don't know where the American economy is going. Some terrible consumer confidence figures came out of the US yesterday sort of multi year, ten year, ten year lows. So it's that the impact on tariff, it's the impact on Trump's inconsistency in dealing with the economy and dealing with tariffs. And a lot of them investors and particularly big European investors, the big their equivalent of superannuation funds, are going, wow, this is just too scary for us, and there's too much uncertainty in the US dollar, so we will fly to safety which is your commodities like gold and silver and copper, and also will start lightening up on our holdings in the US dollar. And that's the reason it's coming down. So it's all driven by uncertainty and the Trump reality program on the economy and financial markets hate uncertainty.
01:16:38
Speaker 3: Got you just quickly. You had a front row seat and Playton. Indeed, you played the lead role in one of the more unique AFL promotional and business exercises ever, taking the national game to China. Do you reckon the Indian push is worth exploring?
01:16:53
Speaker 9: Yeah, I reckon it is worth exploring. We've got to think differently. The tradition will say like they did with us in China, or if I won't take off in China or India, well we all know that. But it's all about building cultural tithes and it's all about the building trade and commercial ties as well. And you know that that worked a treat for us. No one could have predicted COVID or the trade wars between China and Australia. But you know those years really set us apart as a club and gave us a commercial niche En g Is is still a byproduct of that and our major partner because of the links that we built there and I think it's terrific. Give it a go, see if anything comes off off from it. If it doesn't, well you've given it a shot. And I think that's the way we've got to think.
01:17:50
Speaker 3: Absolutely good on your Dave, David Kosh, the Padlach and compare the market Economic Director David.
01:17:55
Speaker 1: Penberthy and World Goodings five double a breakfast after.
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Speaker 2: A coming up very shortly John Paul Drake from Drake Supermarkets.
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Speaker 3: It's going to talk about how grieved he.
01:18:09
Speaker 2: And the Drake family feel about being muscled out of Castle Plaza, muscled out in.
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Speaker 3: His words, I had me muscled out. This is like a This is like being dumped by text message. Yeah, in a bad relationship where they thought that everything was going fine. Drake thought that everything was going fine with Castle Plaza and then suddenly they were getting the silent treat what's the latest on the least? Are we going to extend that? And suddenly the owners of Castle Plaza have fallen in love with somebody else. Woolworths, a non South Australian company, muscling in at the expense of a South Australian company.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk with John Paul Drake about that very shortly and then Police Commission to Grant Stephens for the first time in at twenty twenty six will join said the first time we've chatted with in post Bondi as well, an event that's changed Australia and certainly has changed Australian policing. Lots to talk about in that. We've got some new crime data that's out this morning as well, and a pretty ugly instant involving a police officer that was assaulted with a glass bottle at Prospect. Lots of things to talk with the Police Commissioner about. As always, we take your text two on zero before eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. But first, it's stunt for breaking ate.
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Speaker 3: Well, it's been billed as a victory for people power the decision by the company Tarak to pull out of its plans to set up a plastic factory in Old Roanella. But there are grave concerns that the manner in which this has been handled not only is an affront to proper process where a decision had been made at the local government level to look into letting this project proceed, a project that would have created many jobs, a project whose operators said was going to abide by all of the legal requirements, the statutory requirements through the EPA and everything else. But beyond that and most disturbing now, I know some of our listeners might have supported the campaign against this project, and they've got every right to do so, but some of the tactics that were used by the protesters were I think frankly appalling. They involved the targeting not just of some of the people who were advocating for this project, but even members of their family, where photographs of their family members were distributed on social media. It almost became a sort of hit list shaming exercise. And regrettably, the heat and anger and vitriol that came to poison what could have otherwise been a much more sensible discussion has resulted in a project which a lot of people said was perfectly sensible business project being shelved. Jeremy Blanks is the CEO of the company Tarat that was behind the push to open this factory, and he joins us this morning for breaking at eight. Jeremy, thank you so much for your time. I saw the statement that you issued yesterday and I've also seen the comments made by Bruce Gtay from the Property Council about this. It must have been quite a harrowing process for you being on the receiving end of a lot of this stuff.
01:21:19
Speaker 15: Good morning, Dave and warning Will, thanks for having me on your show. If I just clarify one thing, Tarak, which is the company I run, is the owner of the land. The statement that was released yesterday was released by Technoclass, who was the prospective tenant.
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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yeah, I'm sorry if I got that wrong.
01:21:39
Speaker 7: No, that's okay.
01:21:41
Speaker 15: But having said that, your summary was a very good one. We're a long term owner of that land. We've developed progressively over the last six years. That application that was in the process of being assessed by the Independent Council Assessment Panel was consistent with the zoning for that land and we, as always are open to community feedback on any application that is related to our land. The problem with this one is significant, and it's because there was a two problemed attack. It was spreading misinformation into the community which created a huge amount of angst and stress among the people, and.
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Speaker 20: It was.
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Speaker 15: Sitting beside that was this horrendous personal attack on people anyone who had a view contrary to this small group of people leading the attack were shut down and were personally attacked.
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Speaker 3: Well, some of the stuff that I've heard, and I'm actually as you're talking, Jeremy, I'm just reading from an Onkaparinga Council watch website that monitors a lot of the issues that emerge at the local government level down South, and indeed is something which historically has opposed some developments. But this website says this. It must be said plainly that this process was marked by unprecedented, unprecedented levels of aggression, intimidation, bullying and harassment. People who were even open minded about the project have been subjected to defamatory statements, conspiracy theories, sustained harassment, bullying, and coercive control tactics. Does that gel with your assessment of how this played out?
01:23:40
Speaker 15: I think it's a very good summary, David. And it was continuing as recently as yesterday, even up to.
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Speaker 3: The point where the project was being shelved. Yes, it's extraordinary, isn't it. Do you worry that this is set a precedent where this type of almost you know, turbo charged Nimbia's and might be seen by some as a model for success.
01:24:05
Speaker 15: I am very concerned. I'm very concerned for that being the case for the rest of our project, but more so at a higher level, I'm very very concerned, as someone who's been involved in and around the property industry for a long time, that this is going to other people will look at how this has been managed, and I think that the property industry and the government need to work very urgently to look at how this sort of behavior can be shut down, because what it has the potential to do is frustrate perfectly reasonable development through processes and behaviors that are quite frankly abhorrent. But in addition to that, I have nothing to do with the planning system. Planning system is set up to be assessed on the merits of a project measured against the planning the planning system, and this was everything but that.
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Speaker 3: I was reminded while following this story of the episode in Kingswood, Hawthorne area a couple of years ago involving the construction of a new hockey pitch co shared with the Ley High School, where some of the people agitating against it ran all sorts of nonsense online, saying that the AstroTurf was going to give cancer to people in the area, and it took off on Facebook and so on. Has the ability to distribute meaningful and accurate information been undermined by the ease with which social media can now be used to spread all sorts of fanciful and fearmongering stuff.
01:26:03
Speaker 15: Absolutely, and I've been surprised at how much power that misinformation has garnered and how quickly it's garnered there. As I've said through this process, if I were a resident and what was being peddled was true, I would be concerned. But the information was just not true, and our ability to be able to communicate effect thee with people to what the truth was was just simply overrun by this vicious campaign of personal attacks, not only on us or our consultants, but on other residents. Anyone who spoke up with an opinion other than it's got to be shut down was personally attacked.
01:26:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a pretty disparuting episode all around. Jeremy Blanks, the CEO of Turak, we really appreciate you coming on this morning for breaking at eight. Thank you for your time, Thanks for having me. Dave for your los A sound effect. Hey m Scott makes I think valid criticism of us. He says, morning boys, come on Dave five double as hardly innocent in this. I lost count of how many times one of the five Double A shows had the guy leading the protest on to spew the same stuff over and over. I'd actually reflected on that sky and I think part of the challenge is that if you're covering stories, you've got to try to cover them from all angles. And often we'll get contacted by someone from a resident's action group about an issue, and we'll get our listeners. We've got other listeners, some of them like we love like Quentin. He's an older and resident. He didn't want it to go. He texted this morning saying he's happy that it's not going ahead, and he's entitled to his opinion. But the issue is I think that what happened and with this was that there were people who were some of the spokespeople for it. Well, we're going on on the show in good faith. But after the event, it sort of became apparent that this had actually then, as it was getting closer to crunch time, it had spun off into its own man orbit, and you know, plenty of times where you talked to someone and then later on down the track you go you I didn't really know that. You can't know everything about everything all the time. But it's a valid it's a valid point that Scott much absolutely.
01:28:34
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and Will good Eggs five double a Breakfast David Penberthy and Will good Eggs five double a Breakfast.
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Speaker 2: Twenty four after right now, this is an intriguing story. There will be no longer a Drake Supermarket at Castle Plaza, ending a two decade long relationship, as it will be replaced by a Woolworths. There's already a Coals at Castle Plaza, and John Paul Drake, the director of Drake's Supermarkets, has taken to LinkedIn to slam of the decision. He says, twenty years in store terminated without a second thought. For a significant period of time, they'd operated without a formal elase agreement. It ended nearly a year ago. They've been in negotiations just try to secure a long term agreement, but suddenly that negotiation fell silent and in John Paul Drake's words, only after our lease was terminated to become clear that Woolworth's had already finalized their design plans for this site, and they were paying an exorbitant rent to secure at Castle Plaza already has a coals. Replacing independent, family owned supermarket with the other duopoly won't create competition. John Paul, good morning to you.
01:29:43
Speaker 14: Good morning, And as you're politely put it, it's like breaking up via text, isn't it?
01:29:49
Speaker 3: Well, given that you've been there for two decades, John Paul, I mean, it's not like your blowings, you know, sort of you know, like the discs.
01:29:58
Speaker 14: We've been a great ten and we've our rent on time, We've reinvested into the store to the tune of over ten million dollars, and you know, to get this sort of response, was it a surprise. I we'd noticed something from the last two years, Since twenty twenty four, we've been trying to negotiate, and when things go cold on one side of the end, you sort of understand it's not going to end end too well for you. So it has been a very disappointing, to say the least. Not to mention, we have one hundred team members at that store, and we obviously are going to do utmost to redeploy them into positions and to other stores in the near in the hopefully around around the store.
01:30:42
Speaker 2: So how much all John Paul's willing to pay, Well, we.
01:30:47
Speaker 14: Haven't exactly been told that number, but I believe it's it's not quite double what we're currently paying in regards to rent there. And I'm assuming along with that the landlord is probably going to promise a whole lot of upgrades and things like that that they get with the party. I mean, what people do not understand is Cole's and Willis and when they do own their own centers, they are out there paying very high rents to the tune of I'm hearing up to five hundred and fifty dollars a square meter a to six hundred dollars a square meter plus, just so that would flush out any other retails.
01:31:24
Speaker 2: The reason I asked you, John Paul, was I just wonder have you been the victim of this sort of this sort of approach to get you out of really attractive retail spaces in the past, or do you fear that this is sort of a new tactic that could see similar upbidding happen in places you've got other stores?
01:31:42
Speaker 14: Well, there's no doubt this is happening. We have a few sites that we are very concerned about. Would be an understatement. And when you're paying such a high rent, I mean, if you're paying yourself because you're you're the landlord, and all of a sudden that becomes the benchmark, then what eventually happens, And I'm trying to explain this as simple as possible. Landlord will come to us and say, well, you know, Cosm Warworth are going to pay this a square meter, Well why can't you? Well, you know, if we're paying that sort of lease, then we are definitely not making money and we're working for the landlord. So what eventually happens is you get squeezed out. Now, if you look at the situation, if it's an independent retailer that has one supermarket and this happens to them, their whole livelihood is gone. And I'm not sitting on the on the soapbox crying about oh look it's poor us. I mean, unfortunately this is how some people do business.
01:32:38
Speaker 3: But because this.
01:32:42
Speaker 14: Story looks like we're addressed behavior, Yeah, we've addressed this with the A triple C. You know, they're very interested in watching prices. I mean, someone needs to actually watch the gates, because the gates are open for anything to actually occur. And I've been talking about this for a while and we've now called it lease stealing because well, when you take away the competition, you actually, you know, you're you're decreasing the competition, which is making the duopoly stronger. I mean, this isn't the free market, and it's the quiet strangling of it. And I think what people have got to understand and the price, the pricing doesn't start at the checkout. It starts with who controls the keys to the building. And for some reason it has fallen on deaf is and it's you know, I have a mouth, I will use it. I think people need to understand there's lots of things that go on in the background. Supermarket retailing is some of the toughest retailing in the country, and you know, nothing is getting cheaper. So when you look at how much it cost to build these days, it's so expensive to build, there's time delays, and so what that means is the attention then gets turned to, well, hang on, what other things are out there that we can do. Well, we can pick up leases at the end of these leases and don't get me wrong. We have long leases. We have ten years plus ten plus ten plus ten. These are the sort of options that are going on around the place. And when they come up, if the landlord's not prepared to even come back and give you a chance to a counter offer, then what chance? What chance do you have?
01:34:28
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, it sus It's deeply sus. John Paul Drake, the director of the excellent Drake's Supermarkets, Thanks for joining us this morning.
01:34:35
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and Will Gooding's five Double A Breakfast coming here on to twenty minutes to night I for the first time at twenty twenty six.
01:34:42
Speaker 2: If you watching on the Facebook on YouTube lives Drive, you'll see we're joined in the Fight Double A Breakfast studio by the Police Commissioner Grant Stevens, Commissioner, Happy New Year and great.
01:34:50
Speaker 17: Have you a happy New Year to you too, Wilton, David, thanks for having me back.
01:34:53
Speaker 3: Great to see your commissioner. What's changed since we caught up pre Christmas, hasn't it post bondi Ya.
01:35:00
Speaker 17: It's an amazing series of events that have changed the way people feel about their own safety and what our community.
01:35:07
Speaker 4: Looks like going forward.
01:35:09
Speaker 17: You wouldn't You wouldn't fathom that we could have had such an event in Australia that would have had such a profound impact on people.
01:35:16
Speaker 3: And we've seen too the continuing polarization. And look, we're just chatting off here. Let's just preface all of this by saying, without wanting to sound naive or vacuous or complacent, but we are lucky here in essay, the climate, the discourse, the behavior of all of our different communities, and I include in that seeuth Australia's a Muslim community is much more civilized, much more laid back. Is that your reading of it?
01:35:52
Speaker 17: Look, I'd describe it exactly the same way I think we look at protest activity in the Eastern States.
01:36:01
Speaker 4: We just don't see that here.
01:36:03
Speaker 17: We have a tolerance is probably not the right word, but we are more tolerant of other parts of our community. We have I don't know, more cohesion, I think, and that plays out in the way we demonstrate for things we feel are important, and we don't see the violence, we don't see the animosity, we don't see conflict. People have their say and it's respected, and I don't know, it's got to be more than just being South Australia. But every time we look over the border, I'm always grateful that we're here.
01:36:37
Speaker 3: But I guess the flip side, though, is that we know you don't need too many people to ruin everybody else's day.
01:36:42
Speaker 4: And that's why we're still doing our job.
01:36:45
Speaker 17: We don't let these events pass without a proper assessment of what the risk is. We look for agitators. We do know that every now and then we get agitators coming from interstate to try and mix things up. We have great intelligence processes and engage with people who are organizing assemblies or protests. There's a lot of work done for us to be able to properly assess the sort of policing response necessary and determine whether there's any elevated risk. So we don't have any level of complacency, and we're making sure that when people want to come into the CBD or whatever a protest may be happening, that they can do so safely because we're pretty much on top of what's happening and we'll step in quickly if we see things changing.
01:37:28
Speaker 3: Has bond I had any legacy or changes about the way in which you interact with our federal intelligence bodies.
01:37:34
Speaker 17: Well, that's part of the discussion I think National Cabinet are having in relation to more information sharing with some of these federal security agencies. We already engage quite significantly with them, but we're talking about how that might change in terms of assessing people for their suitability for a firearms license and making sure that there's a free flow of information between the States and territories and the Commonwealth agents that gives us all the information we need to make sure that we can be proactive when we're dealing with these emerging issues.
01:38:06
Speaker 2: Do you think gun buybacks like those talked about federally make South Australian safer.
01:38:11
Speaker 17: Look South Australian's gun laws up until Sydney and Western Australia may change us to their laws, our laws were probably the benchmark for Australia. They're still very good. The only thing that probably distinguishes us and New South Wales now is putting a cap on the number of firearms individuals can own. And that's a discussion or a decision of government and I think it's probably going to be the subject of further discussions at National Cabinet about what the National Firearms Agreement looks like and what the appetite is for each state or territory to strengthen their gun laws. But South Australia is pretty good. You can't get a gun license without being assessed as a fit and proper person. We do have maximum time frames for lice, so it's one, three and five years you have to renew. Other states and territories don't have that where you once you get a license, you've got it forever. So we're continually reassessing. We have continuous checking on people suitability. So if you have a medical episode or you commit a criminal offense, including domestic violence, that's checked regularly and we'll go out and take your firearms from me if we don't think you're suitable anymore. So there are things that exist in South Australia that I think put us in a really good position. It is a decision for the government as to whether they want to participate in the buyback.
01:39:31
Speaker 3: This might be something else that you'd describe or dead bat as a decision for the government commissioner. But do you have a view from an operational perspective on the discussion around whether the burning of the Australian flag should be against the law. The Queensland premiers come out in the last day saying he thinks it should be. There was a flag that was burnt at one of the Invasion Day protests in Brisbane on January twenty six. I must have been I can't actually remember seeing it happen here in Adelaide. I might be wrong, but is it something that I don't know, Like, do you have a view about whether that is an infringement on civil liberties.
01:40:06
Speaker 17: Or I think you nailed it on the head when you said I'm going to dead bat that one. I think it is worthy of a discussion. And I think if it is the symbol of our country and it means a lot to a lot of people, and I think there should be a discussion about whether it should be protected.
01:40:27
Speaker 3: And I guess too because often you see it at protests and it can seem to be particularly when there's protests and counter protests together, that yeah, it can be the trigger point for further escalation.
01:40:39
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
01:40:40
Speaker 3: I actually.
01:40:42
Speaker 17: I hung a flag at our house on Australia Day and I went inside and my wife Emma said, I wonder if that's going to be there when we go to take it down to and I said to her, I said, it's interesting that we actually having a conversation about the fact that the Australian flag now can be a point of contention amongst people. It's our national day and flying a flag you should be able to do so or you know, without fear of having it ripped down or burnt.
01:41:06
Speaker 2: So the police officers here in South Australia report back to you those out in the street trying to do routine policing work, issues with people putting mobile phone cameras in their face when they're sometimes trying to do their work. I mean, obviously I'm reflecting on a high profile and awful situation in the US, but I'm thinking about i mean, got the same devices here and people like the idea of getting stuff on camera.
01:41:32
Speaker 17: Yeah, look, it doesn't happen to the same extent with what we've seen in Minneapolis. But I think that is that's a reaction to the behavior, the alleged behavior of federal agents enforcing their immigration laws and the way they're going about it. So the use of mobile phones has become a bit of a protest thing rather than a means to capture.
01:41:54
Speaker 3: Video TV station. It's yet more of a protest.
01:41:57
Speaker 17: It's an intimidation tactic. It's trying to disrupt the ICE agents who have become the subject of this attention. Having said that, there's not too many events happen out there involving police officers interacting with the community where someone doesn't have a mobile phone out. Invariably, if police officers have to use force to restrain someone, that never looks good. Even in the most clinical circumstances, when you're trying to arrest someone who's fighting back, it never looks good. And the number of occasions that people video that on their phones upload it's that's another level of pressure that police officers have to put up with, and it's more investigation work for us because we have to investigate as to whether the use of force was appropriate. We always do that, but the selective uploading a video paints us in a bad light. When it's when you see the full extent of the event, you think, well, those police officers acted responsibly and professionally.
01:42:51
Speaker 2: We got some crime numbers out this morning. It's a rolling data, so the rolling year on year data. It's from November the year previous to the November last year. That's right, And look, it's a pretty handsome set of numbers, I reckon from your perspective, the serious assaults decrease two percent, Robbery, blackmail and extortion offenses just decreased seven percent, theft down eight percent, residential break ins declined twelve percent. I'm gott to say, just from a statistical point of view, the uniformative uniformity of it makes me suspicious. Is there some sort of environmental or population factor at play here?
01:43:23
Speaker 4: We'll make up those numbers.
01:43:27
Speaker 3: I didn't suggests it was fun news.
01:43:31
Speaker 17: It's this is one of those things where we've got a lot of stuff happening. You can't pinpoint one particular thing that makes a difference, but it's the concerted effort right across the board to target receivist offenders, ensure people are taking steps to protect their own property and make sure they're safe. Yeah, we're just I think we're in a good spot, and you know, the crime stats on the rolling crime stats are showing some very positive outcomes. Having that, there is one there that does concern me, and that assaults against police. That's up the fact that we have more police officers being injured on duty is something that's concerning to us, and it's pleasing to see tougher legislation that will hold people to account for those behaviors.
01:44:15
Speaker 3: Just finally commissioned. I can't remember if we asked you this at the end of last year, but were you upset that Cop didn't go ahead?
01:44:23
Speaker 4: It would have been a great thing for the state.
01:44:27
Speaker 3: What about for you?
01:44:30
Speaker 17: It was Look, I'm not sure if I said this on radio here, but it depended on what day you asked me. Being involved in delivering something so significant would have been a fantastic thing to be a part of and a great challenge. But it was going to be a ton of work, and it was going to put us under immense pressure, and it would have diverted us from a lot of other things that we would probably hope to achieve in the same time, because we would have had to push everything towards Cop thirty one and the logistics of bringing in thousands of police officers from interstate to support our staff. I'm not disappointed we don't have to do that, but I am you know, there's a part of me that is disappointed that we didn't get to deliver such a thought the biggest government led event in Australian history.
01:45:15
Speaker 3: So all, beit one that brought with it many headaches.
01:45:18
Speaker 4: From many perspective. I didn't have gray hair.
01:45:21
Speaker 17: I probably would have had by the end of twenty twenty six.
01:45:24
Speaker 3: Commissioner Grant Stephen's great to catch up again. We'll talk you against him again.
01:45:28
Speaker 1: David Penberthy and Will Gooding's five double a breakfast seven.
01:45:33
Speaker 2: Minutes denied from the Police Commissioner to the street Police. So we've been sent this interesting bit of correspondence, and interesting, I mean disturbing. In the glennel North Community Group, someone's left the picture of their car having been keyed, and a really disturbing note was a handwritten note left there that read this, this car park is for two cars, not just for you. So I keyed your front left hand fender. Do it again and I'll key all your doors, Signed Street Police.
01:46:10
Speaker 3: What a small minded sod that's present to us from the Glenelg North Community Group. I'm just trying to see if I can find it. The extent to which people become so revved up about something like that is just I cannot, for the life of me understand it wouldn't it as you actually keying the car. Reflect on the fact that you just are a dictionary definition loser.
01:46:30
Speaker 2: Well you should ad Moseley Street is the area that happened. I wonder if it's it's a block style of handwriting that might be identifiable.
01:46:42
Speaker 3: I reckon the moment you find yourself writing an anonymous note. Yeah, you need to just reflect, have a bit of a think, even if it's polite, the moment it's anonymous, the sort of passive aggressive sort of I'm just reaching out to let you know.
01:47:01
Speaker 2: That anger about where cars has parked is a very Australia twenty twenty sixth thing.
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Speaker 3: I reckon well, and it is part of it is because people's backstreets was something gone from every which is not to defend this in any way, but I just hold Fast Bay's marketing line for the new Jetty Road can be Glennelle now with fewer car that's yeah, I knowingly took them out.
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Speaker 2: There was a song in the Triple J HoTT As one hundred, a very vulgar song called Keith. I think Called Keith came fourth I Think or something, and I just music is art and art is a reflection of a society, and it just stood out to me as something that was notable because it was the premise of which was a guy in a neighborhood who's angry about people parking out the front of his house, and that the fact that everyone understands that that's it's a little narrative.
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Speaker 3: It's a story that everyone goes. I get that maybe there's something genetic makeup that we have to be angry about something. We're upset about something. So maybe in other countries you're upset about the fact that you know your whole family's about to starve to death, and that sort of concentrates your mind. If you're living in Sedan, for example, if you're living keys, you're worried about like getting bombed. Is it RPG going to hit my apartment? But here is like I'm so sick of that Toyota camera over the road. It's been there for more than three weeks. Just quick something Kristin from Roanella. This is a lovely text. The tone of it is great. I just wanted to say that I disagreed with having the factory in Old Roanella on the basis that it was a factory running twenty four hours a day in a highly residential area. It wouldn't have mattered if it was plastic or otherwise. But I am sad to hear that there was harassment going on by some residents, and I hope that their actions don't take away from the fact that a majority of residents just didn't want the factory. On another point, I'm enjoying this cool change thanks to Kristine. As we said, look, people are got every right to far off about things, but the manner in which it was handled left a lot to be desired, and the account that we got from from Jeremy after eight o'clock was testament to that.
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Speaker 2: Well, said Christen, all right, let's get to the fuel information before we let you go on this Wednesday morning. It's better to be a member with raa road service. The cheap spots the UGO Clearview is at a dollar forty seven point nine, the Solo Blair Athole dollar forty eight point five, LeRoy's Hack Them dollar forty nine point five, and the cheapest EZ one hundred dollars sixty the Solo nails Worth dollar fifty nine point five. Well, it's gonna be a little bit cooler, so enjoy that we'll catch you tomorrow morning.
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Speaker 3: Sound Chris
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Speaker 17: And this street
