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Speaker 1: Seven after six. Good morning to you. Welcome to Tuesday. On five double A Breakfast. The twenty eighth of April. Big day for US UK relations Today, Donald Trump and King Charles meeting one another. King and Queen Camilla have been on a plane and landed in the US, a meeting that was very much up in the air just twelve hours ago following the assassination attempt against the US president. But everyone's confirmed has gone ahead. We'll get to our UK correspondent, longtime UK corresponded, Vince mcavinie with his thoughts very shortly. We'll talk cruises after six point thirty. A lot of holiday behaviors changing, given the price of jet fuel and people's concerns about traveling over the Middle East. Australian holidays booming. Cruisers are booming at the moment. Phill Off and Travel CEO Peter Williams is going to be on the program. We've finally got some servos that have gotten in trouble for deceptive conduct and behavior when it comes to how they're price petrol for consumers. A stack of them an essay are included, and this will be chatting with Mills Oakley consumer lawyer Katherine Edgehill about what happens, do you get named and shamed? What comes next? What level of behavior di ne to be responsible for before it draws the ire of the authorities. And also Klamari very much off the menu, Olgill Bloom disappearing, but the fish not yet reappearing. Some concerning comments from the state government yesterday regarding what you can fish and when David Penberthy, good morning to you.
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Speaker 4: Often of the Kalamari One of the great lines from Ray Winston in the excellent British noir crime thriller Sexy Beast, in which Ben Kingsley plays the role of a lifetime as Don Logan, than.
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Speaker 1: His role as Gandy. I would argue absolutely did.
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Speaker 4: Ben Kingsley as Don Logan is just one of Yeah, Gandy is a great film and and his performance, says Gandy is incredible. But for my warped appetite Sexy Beast I think is one of the all time great movies. But anyway, best actor leading role in nineteen eighty two, Sorry, not in eighty three.
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Speaker 1: The film I can't believe Gandy came out in nineteen eighty two.
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Speaker 4: I can remember saying it and Jesus it was a long watch, particularly given I was probably eleven.
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Speaker 1: At the time.
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Speaker 4: There's a very moving film. Assassination.
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Speaker 1: Don't give it away. Wow, student's history. You've got to bleg up on this one, Isn't it give you a clue? Gandy doesn't make it?
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I do remember being in the cinema thinking is this movie ever going to end? But yeah, and again basically to movie cinema, to my father's warped appetites in films for kids weren't allowed to see Star Wars, were allowed to see Gandy and the Elephant Man. Do you know what it surprised me.
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Speaker 1: I remember seeing Rocky in the cinema. Oh, that would have been amazing about like nine. Well, that's a similar sort of couple of year period there. Well, obviously he liked going to the movies with you. Yeah, and because what was Rocky?
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Speaker 4: I actually remember Dad took me to Apocalypse Now, when I was at high school and we got to the region cinema, if this is our sir, he's not allowed in.
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Speaker 1: If they didn't let you in at all. Well, I was like thirteen, nineteen seventy six, Rocky, so it probably was seventy seven seventy eight by the time it came to Australia. Do you know eighty years ago a very good film for an eight year old is it's a confronting film for an eight year old? Eighty years ago, people went to the film to the movies twice a month. That was the average this North American a man twice a month eighty years ago. So in the forties fifties, I imagine probably our our approach that probably lagged it by a decade.
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Speaker 4: Well, Bill Collins called them the Golden years of Hollywood for a reason, didn't.
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Speaker 1: He twice month people typically went to That was the average person went to the movies twice a month. Due it is in twenty twenty six. I don't even think it would be.
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Speaker 4: Is it annual?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Twice a year, twice a year. Wow, The average now is twice a year. Eighty years ago it was twice a month.
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Speaker 4: How from a yego? Well, so I post rosy, how off an you go?
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Speaker 1: I could probably tell you how many times I've been to the movie in the three and a half years she's been alive, and I reckon it's fewer than oh, if we don't count kids' films. Yeah, yeah, I'm not talking about it. I reckon I've been Zootopia. I think I've seen two movies in the cinema since she's been born. Eight double two to three double a double was the last movie our listeners saw at the movies? Was the last time you're at the movies? Eight double two three double a double? Ah See, I love it.
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Speaker 4: Whenever I go to the meetings, I think, why didn't I do this more often? But I reckon, kid the arrival of kids really stuffs up your cinema attending because it feels like one of those things. It's not quite babysit are worthy enough to we're going to the films. We'll get a babysitter, like you sort of save babysitter for you've got a mate's fortieth or fiftieth or yeah, major events, a birthday, dinner with your wife or something like that. But just popping down the road to the Capri. I feel like would get you know, hassle mum and dad.
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Speaker 1: I'm not really the kind of you know your life's over once you have kids kind of person, but you do reflect on some things that do change. And now it seems like such a luxury. My wife and I used to have it every year. We go, let's work out roughly what the eight Best picture nominations are going to be, and we're going to try and get to the cinema and see all of them. How are you doing that? That was always our thing that was that was like really, now, good luck. I couldn't tell you what any of the nomination its word a littlone going to see them. It's still a thing that happens. It is a total mythday that your life's over when you.
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Speaker 4: Have kids, like rubbish, your life, your life. I think it's better. But which isn't to say that people have chosen not to have kids or can't have kids. You know, necessarily their lives are the poorer for it, because plenty of people who don't. But I think when they're your own kids, you know, you love them so much that everything's entertaining and new and fun completely, But yeah, it is things like you know, when you got a baby, the act of leaving the house suddenly takes hours.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they can, can't it? Oh my goodness. I'm just someone.
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Speaker 4: Putting together a peg Perego brand the other day at the supermarket and I thought, geez, I'm glad that's over. I love going to puddle Jumpers like every every passing year of.
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Speaker 1: Life stuff on, get rid of it all. Some recent movie going from our audience. Adam recently saw Project Hail Mary. See once upon on Project Our Mary is the exact kind of thing I would have really liked to go see in the cinema. I have not. I'm jealous of you, Adam. Lots of people seen the Michael Jackson film as well. Do you want to give us a review of the Michael Jackson film.
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Speaker 5: It's it's a split split audience is about whether it really gets into the nitty gritty, which is a view that doesn't quite Ben loved it though, and Jane with the Wife says, we went to see Michael last Sunday and we go every month.
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Speaker 1: Generally. Good on you, Jane, that is excellent. Anyone from Sefton Park listening this morning. Anyone buy a lotto ticket at Sefton Park, the News Express in the Sefton Park. That Sefton Plaza shopping center on Main North Road is the site of an unclaimed but purchased two million dollar winning lotto ticket. So someone Saturday purchase. The draw was on Saturday night, was on ANZAC Day three Division one winners nationally two million bucks. Anyone at the Sefton Plaza shopping center on Saturday, if you bought a ticket, you mon't want to check it out, to be nice to find out you weren't away. I think I've got that. It's somewhere. I've just too. I actually have two million dollars in cash coming my way. Nice little oversight. Jillian good Creeks called it in the program, Julie, good morning to.
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Speaker 6: You that I love sixty Beast.
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Speaker 4: Sorry, Julie, you're saying you love sexy Beast.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that mayvieeks great.
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Speaker 4: It's an incredibly good film, isn't it.
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Speaker 6: Oh?
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Speaker 7: Absolutely? But I did go to the movies about a month ago, I guess, and saw Songs Sewing Blue, which is a bit of a fluff movie.
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Speaker 8: You don't like.
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Speaker 3: That.
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Speaker 7: I was the person, so.
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Speaker 9: Got chopped top, got up.
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Speaker 7: Geez, choice of seats are pretty So I got up there and sat there and got the recliner going and stung my little heart out because no one was listening. Maybe the usher might have been and had a bit of a giggle, but uh.
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Speaker 9: It was great.
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Speaker 7: But yes, it was just me and nobody else.
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Speaker 1: Oh, Julie, a lot fun though. It's nice to have the big street all to yourself. Put the feed up, relax. Not great for the cinema, but good for you, Julie. Lots of texts coming through. Jody's going to see Devil West prior to two. This week, Ben from Seaford Meadows went to see I Swear and the Mario Galaxy Movie at the cinemas. Recently, Peter's reminiscing about hiding in the car boot going to the drive in. He says, try telling kids that was something that you did once upon a time, Tessa, and Practice says, can verify the kids change everything. Last movie I saw was the Wonker movie with the Timothy Shamalay. Caught it while pregnant at the Victor Harburt Cinema. Can't get to the movies now with a Todd Lady one who knows the Bluey episode where Banddeake's Bluey and Bingo to the movies, knows how that goes. Brent the Milky hasn't been for a few years. Brent's last movie at the cinema's Hunt for Red October about nineteen eighty five or something, late eighties. Yeah, very young Alex Baldwin. I just I worked it out last time I went to the movies and it was great. It was great, really really good fun.
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Speaker 4: That was packed, although regrettably, showing my immaturity, there was no crowd carry on. Went to see the Minecraft movie. That's at Wallace in the Lunga, which is a lovely cinema, but everyone was really well behaved. Well, if that's not why you go to see Minecraft, the Chicken Jockey, Mayhem, Hunt for Art's over. It's released in nineteen ninety actually, Connan McGill, good morning.
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Speaker 9: Good morning tellers. You mentioned twice a month in the old days in the sixties, I lived at near Kensington Road, this Courts Cinema there we used to go twice a week that all the biblical classics on the weekends, et cetera.
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Speaker 1: And would you.
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Speaker 9: Believe Wednesday night was launch night two two Yankee films of Cowboy and Indian films. I can't believe our parents would let it. So Wednesday night, get home at quarter to eleven and go to school next.
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Speaker 1: That's brilliant, John fantastic, educated by the by the movies. Tony and Darwin, good morning, hey.
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Speaker 8: Guys here on the Sexy based I mean Ben Kingsley when they pick him up from the airport. The conversation in the car.
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Speaker 1: Yes, the description of how hot he is in that show, guys.
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Speaker 8: I saw two movies in two days last week in Bangkok. I was killing some time. It's about seven dollars to go to the to watch a movie and projectile berry at the convenience store with the two movies, which were very good. But at seven dollars a shot, you don't.
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Speaker 4: Mind amazing, that's good value. Nice work toning up there in bangers.
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Speaker 1: Breakfast twenty two after seix. It's an important meeting given the parlor start of the relationship between our two biggest allies, the UK and the US. The King arriving in the United States and meet with the US President Donald Trump, against the backdrop of an assassination attempt at the at the ballroom there that really through this whole meeting into question. In the last twenty four hours would it go ahead? Both parties agreed that it should and it has. Vincent mcaviny, a UK correspondent, has been following it all very closely. Vincent, the King has met Donald Trump. Are you surprised that the meeting went ahead given all that's transpired?
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Speaker 10: No, I don't think so. I mean, obviously, you know, it was a dramatic event over the weekend, but everyone was safe. It was dealt with effectively. The attackle was you know, quite far away from my understanding in the hotel complex, and clearly a lot of planning has gone into the King's visit, the places that they will be hosted and what they'll be doing, and it will maybe just sort of sharpen the security presence, but they will have had a huge planning in place for months for the security. So in those last ten minutes, we've just seen images of King Charles, his wife Queen Camilla, and President Trump and First Lady Milannia Trump having their sort of welcoming afternoon tea in the White House and they appear to be chatting away ahead of a busy few days of schedule.
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Speaker 4: Are there any risks do you think in this trip?
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Speaker 1: Vincent?
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Speaker 4: Already this morning at the final opportunity, there'd been some suggestion that the President could go off script and invite questions. That didn't happen. But you know, historically we're saying plenty of times where things have become a little bit loose and why we'd given president someone unorthodox political style. Do you think the Stama government would be watching this with gritted teeth.
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Speaker 6: Somewhat?
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Speaker 10: Although you know, the benefit that King Charles has is that I've gone to covered royal events that he's attended and ones like his mother did as well, and though it's to a lesser extent with him, there is something that happens when you are in the presence of someone who is the head of state, who is the sort of leader of our monarchy, because they do feel almost like you're sort of witnessing a bit of a historical figure. And Donald Trump in particular, this has a big impression on him. He has a sort of, you know, massive deference in part due to his mother towards the British monarchy. But as we saw recently with the visits of the Japanese Prime Minister Sanae Takeichi, you know, he couldn't help himself a cracker joke about Pearl Harbor in his presence. I think in her presence story, I think he will kind of avoid doing anything like that with King Charles, but there is, you know, a lot that we'll be watching. Whereas the Queen had a pretty amazing poker face, and because she only you know, ascended to the throne at twenty five, we didn't know much about her inner thoughts and feelings, whereas with Charles, we've got a lifetime of thoughts, particularly on his strength of feeling towards the environment, something that both in his professional career and as president, Donald Trump has trashed right the way across America.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the other thing Donald Trump has said who knows. Maybe the King privately agrees with him, but he's been quite upfront about he's disdained for Megan Markle and also he's portrayed Harry as someone who is sort of effectively trapped in a marriage, which Big Danny might regret.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I don't think there's going to be any kind of discussion or commentary on that. We did see Harry in Keys the other day and he gave a statement, you know, where he was talking about the need and he was trying to bring attention. Obviously it's slipped down the kind of global agenda given what's going on in Iran and straight to four moods, but he was trying to redraw attention to Ukraine and urging you know, Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, the two presidents, to try and continue their efforts to try and bring an end to this. But you know, perhaps behind closed doors he might say something, but I don't think given how tight lit the King has been on all of this in the last couple of years, I don't think we'll hear anything publicly.
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Speaker 4: We'll give it his health challenges as well over the last year, as fellow subjects of the King. Vincent, We're happy to see that he's up in a bed, on his pegs and getting back to his day job. Always great to catch up with you, mate, and we thank you for that, Vincent. Mech of any UK correspondent mate Robin Clearview points out that the hotel where Donald Trump was the subject of this shooting plot two days ago, it's the same hotel where the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan was made.
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Speaker 1: Only one or two.
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Speaker 4: Speaking of movies, the guy who shot Reagan was addressed with the movie Taxi Driver for a Scorsese film Taxi Driver, and he believed, as a result of the delusions he was suffering, that he had to somehow save Jody Foster, who plays the child prostitute Iris in the film. And to this day, if you interview Jodi Foster, you have to I think you have to actually sign a document promising not to ask her about the Reagan assassination attempt.
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Speaker 1: Let's have a look at the whether we should play a little game of which month am I if I told you the next four days were twenty six and mostly Sonny twenty nine and mostly Sonny twenty eight, partly cloudy and twenty nine and mostly Sonny, what month would you say we're in, I'd say November. Yeah, well we're in late April, and that's the next four days. That said, it changes after that. Have a listened to this Saturday twenty eight one to ten millimeters, Sunday twenty two to fifteen, so that dropped significantly, and then Monday twenty two to fifteen, which is a wide range of potential rain out comes over the weekend into early next week, but all of them feature significant amounts, so potentially some good rain coming our way. Tom Ren's in the five to blaw Breakfast studio thanks to Gladder or garage doors. Over fifty years strong, all colors, all styles, all street appeel gladder dot com.
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Speaker 11: Today you Morning, Ready, Morning morning, David Boys. A little bit happening in the AA world at the moment. So the ARC they're now going to change things so that they can't recall play once it's gone back into play. So this is after the Saint Kild West Coast debacle where thirty five seconds was played and then they said no, no, no, bring it back, and that's what happened with the var in the EPL. I'm sure Crows fans would be hoping they could have done that retrospectively with the ben Keyes point that was given should have been a goal.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is the arc?
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Speaker 4: Is the art?
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Speaker 1: I always think Adelaide raman sent what is it? It's like the video review. Is it an acronym? What is it? If it was being run by inmates at the lab Remarks Center, that would make a lot more sense. It's the video technoin a lot.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, So Greg's one who's the head of the sort of operations that the AFL said that they're going to keep it. You know, it's still got a place, but they're going to scrap that situation where we had in Good West Coast once players restarted that tit.
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Speaker 12: I think it's just to take out the sport.
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Speaker 1: Better because of all this. I don't think so that was a huge technology going. I've got it wrong. Yeah, it's none of the sport is better, and.
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Speaker 4: I think the epls battling with it still all so completely.
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Speaker 1: It's really it is the best thing about the thing so is above every other sport is the elation when a goals kick. It's such a release, it's such a big moment and in the in the EPL. Now they go goals kick, everyone goes to jeer, Well, let's just wait for the video review. Yes, yeah, it's it is killed it Yeah, A lot a lot of fans say they love when the teams are the championship and they obviously prefer to be in the Premier League. But in the championshipre's no video review. Yes, so you just you just enjoyed it. H's the back of the net. The unpied blow is whistle, we go berserve?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: If you look at the sweep of sporting results throughout history, now I know here in in Adelaide Sturton, would people still going about nineteen seventy eight Was that a free?
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Speaker 1: Was it not a free?
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Speaker 4: Nineteen sixty six four to England defeat Germany, and there's still the discussion people have done their PhDs on whether that.
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Speaker 11: That ball across the line hand of God nine and eighty six had of God Nassi but Maridonna.
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Speaker 4: But that same game, I know, you know, involved one of the greatest goals of all time. That's the dominant performance by Argentina. So overall, do people look back at s a NFL football in the seventies and say it was total garbage because it does foster and they could have had all was was England's World Cup.
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Speaker 1: Well, I discredit the problem. It was just the promise of technology was, well, we won't have errors, but the actual reality of it is and maybe one day we'll have AI doing it and we'll have no errors. But right now the reality is you get these ridiculous scenarios whereby we can't abide a Lassu free kick on the wing being wrong. We have a zero tolerance of an error on that, but holding the ball too high, pushing the back, like all these other things. Well, sometimes they're right, sometimes they're wrong, and.
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Speaker 11: And the other thing is the technology is not good enough sometimes as well. And that's the other problem. If you've got to do it, you can't be half pregnant. You've got to go all in. And unfortunately they haven't.
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Speaker 12: We having a shock of the oph Yeah, not great, good on your boys, Adelaide.
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Speaker 1: I was thinking this has been cut badly. It's gonna the chorus is going to lead out before we get to w you have start the show, But no, Paddy had a joke in store. The April sun in Adelaide, four days of it ahead before the rain begins, potentially in a big way over the course of this weekend, which would be.
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Speaker 4: Terrific to tell you what Saturday morning is peak fertilized the lawn time. Apparently there's a thunderstorm scheduled for Saturday afternoon days. It might move around between now and then, but if you're going to go chuck your lawn hub fertilizer on the lawn, then Saturday morning looks like the time folks feels weir.
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Speaker 1: Usually we get to this part of the year and I think people start daydreaming about being somewhere warm. At the moment, you are somewhere warm, but all the same, we'd love to hear from you this morning at eight double two three, double O, DOUBLEO. Have you just been on a cruise? Are you planning on going on a cruise or is there a cruise destination that is on your dream wish list? And the reason we ask a bit is because if you're thinking about it or having just done it that puts you in a category of many Many Australians one point four to five million took an ocean cruise last year. One point four to five million, that's the crazy. The previous record was one point three five in twenty eighteen. There was a nine point five percent jump on the number of people who took a cruise in twenty twenty four. So it's not as saying, oh, well, this is a big number coming off a down period. It has just been booming the cruise business and it look it's going to boom again. I suspect because a lot of people are rethinking holiday destinations given a the price of jet fuel and b the concept of and to fly over the Middle East if you want to go visit rallies or do anything like that in Europe. Peter Williams is the managing director and CEO Phil Hoffman Travel Peter, good morning. You guys are sort of the gateway for a lot of our cruise going enthusiasts here in South Australia. What are the sort of hot spots people like heading off to at the moment.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, morning, will morning Daves. You're right, cruising is really growing quite quickly and if you haven't of those numbers one point four or five million, that means nearly six percent of Ozzie's took a cruise in twenty twenty five, so it's one of the biggest penetration cruise penetration rates in the world. So it's not stopping soon. And looking forward into two twenty seven, we're seeing about a fifteen to ten growth year on years, so there's a huge appetite for it. Look, the biggest what we call fly cruise destinations easily the Mediterranean, So we see a lot of bossies love heading over to the med whether it's for the food, the sun, you know, and those villages, beautiful villages, and I think just enjoyed the laid back lifestyle. But easily the biggest amount of cruising is still what we call ex Australia and New Zealand, with over one point one six million people cruising in twenty twenty five, very.
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Speaker 4: Close to home people with the dramas in the Middle East, has that clearly hasn't stopped travel, but is it discernible yet in terms of has it changed travel or people who might have been thinking about, you know, say this July, you know, jumping on a flight with Emirates or Qatar and going to the south of France or Croatia or something like that. You're now seeing more of a swing away to perhaps Asia Pacific type tourism.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, we certainly saw a flat spot, David for a couple of months, and we're just starting to see a bit of light at the end of the tunnel for European bookings for twenty twenty six. We've got great news just in the last week or so. Emirates are restarting their flights on the first couple of days first of May, initially three days a week and then back to daily service and then Katara following early in June, so that will really boost that. So what we're starting to see is people now to rebook for the second half of the traveling season in Europe, so really from that kind of July onward. But yeah, you'd be right saying, you know, your March to June figures it would be well down and people were looking for other destinations. Canada has been a huge winner there and then as you said, more around the Asia Pacific. But those people that had booked in that early part, when you know, the whole Middle East drama start and a lot of them still went. But what they did is they delayed. They're booking and rather than going with the Middle East carriers, they rebooked on your sitting player, one generations and et cetera. But one of the advanus of cruising is that you move the ships around. Well, yeah, it's a huge moment, so they can get them out of any let's say, troubled waters and move them to where people are prepared to go. And the manage is one that you know, it's always evergreening. People are always geting there.
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Speaker 1: Pa.
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Speaker 4: I remember when we play golf together for the charity day for five double a down at the Bay. You're saying, how your cruise regular you go? I think pretty much every year with them, with some of your some of your friends. Have you got a favorite cruise destination or sort of area.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, again, and I hate to be standing on a track record, but I do love that Mediterranean region personally. You know, it's something that really suits myself and my mates. We will go away as five or six couples and love that. Alaska is probably second to that, absolutely stunning. But you know, there's big ships, there's small ships, there's a cruise for everyone. And I've always said that it's really important to speak to a specialist like us that pull Off in Trauble, or really any qualified travel agent who knows cruising well, because if we put you on the wrong cruise or the wrong ship, you're going to get really annoyed and you're probably going to be put off cruising for the rest of your life. Whereas you know, we can ask for three simple questions and we can match you to exactly your needs. And for example, I'm heading off for work. I'm heading off to the Mediterranean in about six months time on the bigger ship in the world, called the Legend of the Seas. It takes four or five thousand people. Now we know that's not going to suit everyone, but it's like a floating resort, so it's great for families, huge with entertainment. But then two months later I'm going back with a bunch of mates doing a Croatian cruise which only has thirty six people on it. So you know there's something for everyone. This is really what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: You've got a good job, mate. I mean, not many of our listeners, nor indeed us, can say I'm heading off on a cruise to the Mediterranean for a couple's got to do it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, exactly good.
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Speaker 4: Paton Williams, the managing director and CEO who Hop and Travel.
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Speaker 1: Matt on the text on says love cruising doing a return transit landing and Caribbean cruise on the q M two in December January, flying via Hong Kong to get to Southampton. And there's a lot of people doing very creative routes to get to Europe. At the moment, turn and twenty three days to go. Have a good day, well, Matt who's counting two and twenty three days to the cruise of a lifetime. Dion, I get the feeling. Was counting down to running the half marathon this weekend, but the weather report has him a little bit concerned. Dion says, this Sunday morning, starting in town, I'm running the Adelaide half Marathon, the marathon, half marathon and the ten k run sold out months ago. There's going to be thousands of runners in the city. The weather isn't looking good for us. Well, let's find out a bit more about the weather. Ellie Matthews from the Weather Bureau joins us, Well, tailor of two halves of the week, isn't it, Ellie.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, certainly so. I suppose it's the half marathon today or tomorrow or even Friday, you'd be looking at a pretty dry run. We're generally continuing with these dry and above average temperatures in the coming days. So today, whilst we've got a forecast of twenty six degrees for Adelaide, getting up to twenty nine degrees for Wednesday and Friday as well, so warming up quite a bit over the coming days. But once we get to the weekend, we are looking at a system moving through from the west and we'll generally bring a break to this continuing pattern of warm and dry weather that we have been seeing. So there'll be a trough that will move through into Saturday, bringing some showers and possible storms, with then an associated low pressure system to move through waters just to the south of US and generally bring continued showers and storms right the way through the weekend. So does sound like it could be a little bit of a wet and while the half barrison to run on Sunday morning.
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Speaker 4: Certainly does, Ellie. Thank you for that. Elie Matthews from the Bureau of meteorology. All right, time to head to say Paulson.
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Speaker 1: He comes to well. Rebecca Stokes joins us, Rebecca. A food delivery car has been stolen.
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Speaker 4: Yes, so.
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Speaker 15: The first one happened about six point thirty last night. A man was making a delivery on Hanson Road at Manford Part when two people jumped into his unattended toe to Camray and drove off. Pollair was a luckily airborne and spotted the stolen Camray heading east on the Henley Beach Road. The vicka was tracked through the western suburbs before eventually heading up the Southeastern Freeway and getting off at Crafer's. Patrols followed the vehicle into a dead end street at Hills Street at Crafer's West, where the Camry drove into a dam. The passenger fled but was found by police dog Operations Webster, and the driver actually refused to get out of the water, but he was eventually arrested after some vocal encouragement by police dog Enzo and the police negotiators. A twenty one year old man from Sempad Park was the driver and his passengers nineteen years old from murray Bridge. They've both been arrested and charged with numerous offenses including illegal use of a mode of vehicles, speed, dangerous and dangerous driving to escape police to shoot and they'll face court later today. And we still need to toe this car out of the dam, so that will happen a bit later this morning.
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Speaker 4: Well, what a chaotic night that was, Rebecca. Also another stolen car from Underdale, then queshed In or Stavy Bowl.
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Speaker 15: Yes, so this is at two fifteen this morning. A delivery driver parked is Tota Sedan on Hardy's Road at Underdale and a male suspect arm with a knife demanded the keys to the car. The suspects driven off sped away from the scene. Luckily the victim was not physically injured during the incident. But only five minutes later we'll call to North pray Tot Torrensville by reports that a Tota Sedana crashed into a Stoby poll. Now the driver to camp from the car before police arrived. Checks revealed that it was indeed the stolen Toda from Hardy's Road. We're still searching for that driver robbery suspect, but so far it's not being located. So anyone with any CCTV or dash cam to either incident either at under the old Torrens for this morning can contact crime Stoppers on one eight hundred, triple three, triple.
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Speaker 1: Zero and just last through Rebecca. This sounds now see a truck and a motor scooter collided at Croydon Park.
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Speaker 15: Yes, so emergency services responded to this serious crash involving a Suzuki scooter and a truck at the intersection of South Road and Regency Road at Croydon Park. This is a quarter to four this morning. The scooter riders a twenty five year old man. He was really lucky not to get seriously injured when he crashed into this truck. He was taken to hospital by ambulance. His injuries do believe to be non life threatening at this time. His scooter was completely destroyed in the crash, just absolutely split in two and had to be towed from the scene. The truck drivers a thirty one year old man from Injury's Farm. He wasn't physically injured in the crash and there was no damage to his truck and the road was cleared for all traffic by five am after some quick work at the scene. And again anyone who witnessed the crashers. Any dash cam footage can contact crime stoppers on one dight hundred triple three, triple zero.
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Speaker 4: Good stuff Rebecca, thanks for that, Senior Constable Rebecca Stokes from Stapole.
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Speaker 3: Deep it's ten burping and will Goodings five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 1: Five to seven. Nine petrol stations in South Australia have received fines for failing to comply with real time petrol price monitoring. It's the first time we've seen the consumer apparatus that exists at state and federal level take action against petrol station is an environment of incredible price volatility and of course accusations of gouging. This isn't about price gouging. This is about failing to comply with the expectations regarding petrol monitoring, so declaring what the price is within a reasonable time frame and also declaring whether you have the petrol available or not, which is something that we've just had to become a fay with. These are the offending stations for the April Blitz. That took place. Bulls Garage at Cooper Peedie received two expiations for their price discrepancy on unlettered ninety one and not having diesel available. The cowtexs at Bordertown received two. Notably to regional centers. The United at strath Alban got an expiation, the Ampoule at Renmark United at Bury, the Kurunda Fuel Stop received two for unavailable fuel, the Exconvenience at Goodwood unavailable fuel that they didn't correctly advertise, cowtexs at Parkhole and the Solo Energy Corporation at Edinburgh North. A lot of them are regional, which is interesting because regionals have been the ones that have been hit, really struggling trying to get hold of their usual allotment. Catherine Edgeil is the competition law partner at Mills Oakley and joins us on the line. Catherine, good morning to you.
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Speaker 6: Hello, thank you for having me, Thanks for coming on.
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Speaker 1: Catherine.
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Speaker 4: Now we've all been a little bit suspicious over the last two months since this war in Iran started. That the sort of fog of water is that cliche has been used as a bit of a foil to get away with some silly buggers when it comes to pricing. Do you think those suspicions have been founded.
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Speaker 16: I think they've probably been founded in some isolated cases. And it's a situation that not only is the South Australian government monitoring, but also the federal government has directed the Australian Competition in Consumer Commission to keep an eye on what's happening now, things like fuel availability and changing in prices. The purpose for that is not so much to ensure people aren't misled, but really to ensure that people have the right information or consumers have the right information in order to be able to decide where they want to buy their petrol. And that's obviously war has made that a much more concerning proposition to many consumers.
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Speaker 4: Just in terms of the fines that we'll mention before going to the availability of fuel and not telling people about it. How does that become a consumer cost issue? It's not a cost issue really. It's an availability issue.
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Speaker 1: Isn't it.
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Speaker 16: It's an availability issue, And I think the whole purpose behind that the scheme is really just to make sure that consumers know that, you know, if they're going to drive I don't know, fifty miles or what a fifty kilometers or whatever to a petrol station and they get there and they find that, you know, they've wasted their fuel because there is no diesel were That's the sort of thing that it's designed to prevent, whether or not it is able to prevent that, given that the issues with supply and perhaps the uncertainty of knowing if you're when you're going to get a delivery, if you're a petrol station, it's not an easy issue, I'm sure for them as much as it is for consumers.
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Speaker 1: Catherine. There's a behavior that deeply irritates our listeners and I think a lot of drivers out there, and that is when there is any international disturbance or the kind of thing that might potentially drive up prices in the future. Prices seem to go up overnight, and yet at the same time, when disruption eases, or there's a reduction of the excise or something that should have happened immediately, it seems to bleed through very slowly. Does that behavior in and of itself constitute any sort of breach of consumer law in Australia, Well.
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Speaker 16: You're entitled to price as you wish, but you're not entitled to mislead people about the reasons for it. So unfortunately, just increasing your price and leaving it there because you take the opportunity to do so, isn't of itself an offense. The offense though, that is blaming it on an ongoing international situation or whatever, or fuel exercise when that isn't the cause. That's misleading conduct. And the fines can be a lot greater than the price monitoring fines. If the AGABC wants to take a petrol company to task over that it now has in its weaponry, finds it up to one hundred million dollars per offense.
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Speaker 1: So great explanation, Catherine. We really appreciate your time. Thank you. Catherine Edgiel, competition law partner at Mills Oakley five Double A News is on the way. We're going to talk about the new rules that came into place with regard to phishing species and the impact of the algal bloom. Yesterday, Phil Couriel join us for the Nation Capital and we're going to trial by jury to conduct all in the next hour.
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Speaker 2: Knockdown build two with metro homes, move into one and keep the other as an investment. Metro homes.
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Speaker 3: They do it all for you, Deevidvan Berthe and Will Goodings five A breakfast height after seeventh.
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Speaker 1: Good morning two. If you're joining us for the first time on this Tuesday, the twenty eighth of April, Magnificent morning ahead, Magnificent weather at the moment, kind of weather that you might if you've got a boat, like to get out and do some fishing. Well, there's some new rules in place about what you can catch and were given the impacts of the algal bloom, which, as part of the pleasing component of the state governments briefing yesterday, is that the state's coastline has recorded zero all low levels of krenia, which is great. The problem is the devastation to the fish stocks has been so great that there's some new bands in place. We'll get into that very very shortly. Also, Phil Curry will join us from the Nation's Capital. Phil's been doing the nation leading reporting and all these potential changes that are in the budget with regard to capital gains and negative gearing. He's had the inside word better than anyone and we'll be talking to him about that, and indeed all the other big things that have been covered off in federal politics. We had a trial by jury coming up shortly as well. I'll tell you what, I cannot believe it's thirty years since Port Arthur. After eight o'clock we are going to be talking to one of the journalists who covered the massacre there. But it feels like it was only a few years ago to me. In my mind. I can remember I was at.
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Speaker 4: Work that day the Advertiser, and we used to get all of the news from interstate and overseas on these TILEX machines. And as a cadet, it was your job to get those big spools of really wide people the holes on each end and feed it in. But the white pins that were on little cogs that would keep them going. And I can remember when you describe it with that technology, it suddenly feels like a long time ago. Oh yeah, yeah, But you're right just to think about it doesn't feel like that long ago. No, no, well, it wasn't like you were getting information off the Internet or anything like that. It was still so what did that machine on a day like this, what did that machine print out? As a journal sitting in Canberra or Adelaide, wherever you were, that would say something like Hobart, what is it today? April April twenty eight, ninety ninety six, one fifteen pm, Tasmanian Police have confirmed that gunshots have been heard at the Port Arthur Historic Site, with unconfirmed reports that several people are injured and possibly dead more and it would end with cats more meaning we're on this story, and then another one would come, and another one would come, and people were just running out of that room, going my god, this is terrible. And you know then obviously the political aftermath of it. But I think from memory, John Howard only been Prime Minister for one month. I'm pretty sure we got voted in in March. He was, he'd only been sworn in for about two weeks, and then this almighty national tragedy unfolded and totally changed the political landscape and the way we all live within record time. It was an amazing time. And it wasn't long after the massacre that I went to Canberra myself to do the job of national political correspondent, and I reckon half the stories I wrote for the first year, or about the guns buy back.
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Speaker 1: You're right, so the election was the second of March, So think about that. The second of March doesn't feel that long ago. This year, so a federal election, John Howard defeated Paul keating ninety four seats. He won ninety four seats. Labour won forty nine, so that was a thumping majority, huge win after a long period of Labor rule. And then they almost lost in ninety eight, and then they almost lost an into large part because of what transpired on this day thirty years ago, and you know, it changed politics. We're talking now about how we've now got four one nation MPs, three one nation mlcas in South Australia, and so much of the political infrastructure that helped create one nation came out of shooters who felt that they were being unfairly targeted, and Paul En Hanson at the time turned that into political capital and the National Party suffered a real haircut at the ninety eight election as a result. Political violence very much the subject of discussion in the US at the moment. It's formed quite a remarkable backdrop for our royal visit. The King and Queen have arrived in Washington for a state visit. This is to mark two hudred and fifty years of since US independence, which is sort of a funny thing for the British monarch to turn up to celebrate. But you know, thanks for kicking us out. Time heals all wounds. As they say, here's Rob Jobson. And in the US that's pretty different than the press because you need a bet of binoculars to see them. I mean we're so far back.
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Speaker 13: You've got a poor situation obviously, but you know we'll not really be able to see the public are not gonna be able to see it.
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Speaker 1: I mean they were near. And that's the reality. In overnight called Thomas Allen, the man who is now being charged with trying to assassinate the president, has been charged. He's also received charges regarding firearm offenses for the attempted assassination at the White House correspondence dinner on the weekend. Here is the president's press set, Carolyn Levitt on political violence.
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Speaker 3: While we are.
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Speaker 17: Blessed to have a fearless president, we should not live in a country where such constant fear of political violence permeates our society every single day.
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Speaker 1: It's been a remarkable democracy in the United States, but it's sadly been punctuated by periods of intense political violence, political assassinations.
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Speaker 4: I've lost four presidents. They could have lost more if bullets had moved a few millimeters to the left or right. Trump's now survived three directive hacks. I just I hate the whole I mean this Jimmy Kimmel stuff that I know. The comments that he made in jest were made before the attempted assassination at the White House correspondence and dinner.
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Speaker 1: Well, for those that haven't heard it, here's what he said. Our first lady, Milania is here. Look at more. It's so beautiful, missus Trump. You have a glow like an expectant widow.
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Speaker 4: Like how just what a debased, dehumanized country it's become where people just hate each other so much that that's what passes for comedy. Like I mean, maybe reaching here, the defense for the joke would be, I didn't know that this was going to happ Well, it's already happened twice.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Is the joke that she she wants out of the marriage and that yes, But can you imagine someone saying something like that, Well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you wouldn't. No, you just pull back. Which is why I find it odd that there seems to be some people seem to clamor for a US style politics to exist in Australia, and I think one of the nice things is we have a very distinct culture when it comes to an approach to politics and the degree to which the average person has historically engaged with it. Because do you want import that kind of stuff? But which part of it's funny or entertaining to? You know, like the idea of watching the Jimmy Kimmel Show where all the jokes are going to be anti mega anti republic, Like it's about as illuminating as watching Fox and Friends to get an even take on what's happening, you know on the Democrat side, Like it's just everything so partisan that everyone's got their own little safe space where they can all sit around agreeing with each other. The problem that's hard is that both sides see the other is so reprehensible, so irredeemable, but there's no point pretending they're human. But these people, they're just evil incarnate. And both sides sort of invoke these kinds of manichen almost religious kind of imagery about their political opponents. And when you say it's divisive and it's ripping families apart, it's why. It's because people have been reduced to political opinions as opposed to three dimensional human beings. That's why jokes like that get a big laugh among the intended audience.
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Speaker 4: I'd be equally damning of the sixty Minutes reporter who asked that question of Trump quoting from a manifesto written by a psychotic shooter. This man has written that you're a rapist. She directly asks the President about that. Trump was well with in his rights to reply the way he did where he said you're a horrible person, because really, we've got to the stage in the media where some journeys are so blinded too by their biases, like can you imagine quoting from like Timothy mcveigh's rantings or the unibomber's manifesto, or we're talking today about it being April twenty eight. This is what Martin Bryant said about something. You don't elevate the thoughts of these whack jobs to use Trump's term to being some sort of equal standing. This is what the government said about you, mister Price. Is this it's discussed.
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Speaker 1: This is a frightening you element in the US, though, because this follows the Luigi Mangioni case of killing the head of the health insurance company, and where the subtext to a lot of the commentary is well, they've done a lot wrong.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just terrible.
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Speaker 1: Here's Carolyn Levitt on those Jimmy Kimmel comments.
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Speaker 17: Just two days prior to the shooting, ABC's late night host Jimmy Cammel disgustingly called First Lady Milania Trump an expectant widow who, in their right minds says a wife would be glowing over the potential murder of her beloved husband. This kind of rhetoric about the President, the First Lady, and his supporters is completely deranged.
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Speaker 1: So that's what's happening in the US overnight, bringing up to speed with charges being laid and the ongoing debate that's going on there. Back here in Adelaide, we want to do a little bit more work on something of the police just told us about before seven o'clock around Crapers where a food delivery car was stolen. Hayden Nelson for seven years, is that Crafer's West covering this story? So, Hayden, what have you been able to glean what transpired here?
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Speaker 18: Yeah, morning, guys. Well as a former pizza delivery driver myself. This is your worst nightmare. But there's a delivery being made on Hanson Road, Mansfield Park about six point thirty last night. At some stage and the course of that happening, the Toyota Camray was left unattended. A twenty one year old and a nineteen year old have jumped behind the wheel and have taken that car. That is what police are alleging. They've taken it on a joy ride through the streets all the way up to the freeway where they've been pursued by police. Now police have tracked the vehicle through Crafers West. The Star Group have been brought in as well as a police dog Webster. The car has then come to Hill Road, which is a dead end, so we know sort of off that Crazy's west turn off. As you're heading up towards bell Air, there's a there's a lot of these backstreets. This is one of those which ends on a private property. Nonetheless, they have continued on and that's where this pair has come unstuck, driving into a dam. For police, that has created quite a difficult situation because that then, despite the car submerging, refused to get out of the car, so negotiators have been brought in to help coax the nineteen year old and twenty one year old out of the vehicle. They eventually have. They were arrested at the dam, brought up the hill into a cage car. They were shouting some expleaders. We can hear them in our vision from the cage car saying I'm sorry before they were arrested. But yeah, they did have the tires of this vehicle at one point were stopped by police. They put the tie treads out, So yeah, quite quite a scene here last night for police and a huge effort from them to bring it under control, particularly just on the freeway.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Hayden, Hayden Elson for seven years. That's a dramatic story. We'll find out more about that by watching Hayden's report tonight from six o'clock on Channel seven. One thing Donald Trump has posted in the last few hours has got us thinking here in South Australia with regard to the renaming of his much maligned Immigration and Customs Enforcement mob ICE. Someone suggested and poster that sent this to him saying they should be renamed to the National Immigration Customs Enforcement. So there acronym becomes nice, in which case the media has to say nice agents each and every day. Donald Trump thought that was very funny. Got us thinking, though, what in Australia name needs a name change to make it a bit more accurate, or maybe to change perception. I think the Electoral Commission's right for the picking here in South Australia. I can't work out what the example is yet x I'm not sure what it becomes someone. I mean off the common one is the AFL becomes the AWFL to be awful, awful, awful represent some of the decision making it's gone in the last twelve weeks. What needs a name change? I reckon the ATO could do with a bit of yea. Hear the words ato and it's terrifying. It Never that doesn't engender a sense of you know, this is going to be fun. How do you soften the we're going to we're taking y hard earned money to spend on.
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Speaker 4: Wouldn't you try to bill it as like the service delivery system units to say yeah, the service delivery yes to you. Yeah, We're here to help by taking your money and giving it to everybody else. And the trade off is we have a relatively civil society where people aren't dying in the streets because we've got a properly funded, universally available healthcare system.
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Speaker 1: The government Help Department, Government Help, the help Department. We're from the ATO. We're here to help. You've got a new notification in your help department inbox. Still the worst email you can ever receive in life. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and rename something for us folks. We're we're going to take this nice idea and apply it to Australia. Eight double two three double o DOUBLEO. What needs a name change? You can text us too on zero before eight zero eight thirty ninety five.
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Speaker 2: Knockdown Bill two with metro homes, move into one and keep the other as an investment. Metro homes.
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Speaker 1: They do it all for you.
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Speaker 3: Deep in Penberthe and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 1: Twenty five minutes after seven, A few texts coming in with people coming up some very creative name changes, inspired by Donald Trump wondering aloud whether I should be renamed nice on the text line, I can't read that one out About adding France to Orcus, I didn't see that one right. The new acronym he just put the letter f in front of Orcas.
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Speaker 4: That's quite spectacular. I like the one from Kevin in Port. Broughton says the ATO should be renamed the Home the Homeland Income Enforcement from the acronym which is FIEF. Quite a few people saying the Bureau of Meteorology needs a bit of a bike over. Ah, some good ones coming through for the bureau. We'll get to those who be careful because last time they decided to give their website a makeover, it costs us all about one billion dollars.
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Speaker 1: That's right. These people can't be trusted, all right. Let's we'll get to some of that because of some great calls coming in. I can see as well at the moment, so we'll revisit that in just a moment. Yesterday there was a big update with regard to the algall bloom and its impact on fish stocks on South Australian coastlines. The good news is this a lot of the coastline now has readings of zero all really low levels of Karnia algae. So that's fantastic news. And anyone who's been in a metro beach recently will attest to this. It doesn't it feels like a pre algal bloom sort of era. At the moment, however, the devastation to spit to fish species has gone on under the ocean surface. So from May one there will be a total closure on southern Calamari fishing across Golf Sint Vincent and the Spencer Golf recreational and charter closure for garfish we implemented in Golf Saint Vincent where there is already a commercial ban in place. Kyrie Tomasos is the executive of the Seafood Industry Essay and joins us now, Kyrie, good morning to.
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Speaker 19: You, Good morning, good morning.
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Speaker 4: So coy, what do you make of these bands? Do you think that they're justified? And do you do you accept the sort of reassurances from Professor Steer that calamari as a fast growing species it should bounce back pretty quickly anyway.
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Speaker 19: Yeah, absolutely, we support the closures because none of these decisions are made without science base and we've been working together with government to do a lot of monitoring over the last few months. And the decisions are really welcome because they will fast strack the recovery of the stocks.
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Speaker 4: And what about what about the garfish closure as well? I didn't know garfish had been that affected by the bloome. I thought it was, you know, more the deeper living fish, but I guess you know, there's such a special food item that we want to do everything we can to keep them safe too.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 19: Absolutely, And I think Golfs and Vincent in particular most spieces were affected quite considerably and hence the reason why commercial fishing is stopped in Golfs and Vincent. But obviously there's been some very positive news with the blue swimmer crab and that is going to open, which really brings the opportunity for people to enjoy that as the local produce.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And to what the Premier said yesterday about the bloom now recording zero or low levels, only low levels in some isolated places of the Kernia algae, is that what you're hearing as well?
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Speaker 19: Absolutely, especially the metropolitan beaches, ELFs and Vincent. We're seeing our strong recovery. Obviously there's still some areas that we are still seeing the album bloom, but overall it is a marked difference and an improvement to what we were used to.
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Speaker 4: Character Matos, the executive of Seafood Industry, say thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 1: Alfin Broadview has got a name change for us ALF good morning.
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Speaker 18: Yeah, hi guys, I want to change the bomb the Bureau of Meteorology to the Bond because somebody certainly must have been on something when they come.
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Speaker 8: Up with that website.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for that. The bomb becomes the Bond. Why not a few techts, A lot of good suggestions coming through.
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Speaker 4: Yes, Jane in Nords is the atrible c could be renamed the Mirror Department because they're always looking into things that seems to be the extent of their endeavors.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for that, Jane zero eight thirty ninety five of colors and eight double two three double o double Andrew says the airport. It's called Terminal one at the airport, but the fact there is no terminal too is that true?
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Speaker 4: I will as there's no parking in the red zone.
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Speaker 1: There's no parking in the red zone.
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Speaker 2: Knockdown bill two with metro homes, move into one and keep the other as an investment. Metro homes.
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Speaker 3: They do it all for you. Deep and pen Burthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 1: Twenty one minutes to wait dra By jury coming up before eight o'clock this morning and then after eight we're going to reflect on what's happening in Tasmania today, thirty years since the Port Arthur massacre. Our guest will be a journalist who is there. Newspaper and TV journalist Mark Thomas saw him to an extraordinary interview in the last twenty four hours on Sky regarding his recollections of the time and heading towards that job that he didn't know would end up being one of them Boies influential and consequential news stories in Australian history. As looking forward him coming on the program after eight o'clock this morning. Eight double two three double o double. I was out abye textus on zero four eight zero wait thirty ninety five or some reaction to the fishing bands regarding kalamari and garfish. Someone him makes the point the problem is Snapper started as a short band and it's been seven years now.
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Speaker 4: That is true.
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Speaker 1: So it was a mixed bag of It was a mixed bag of data that came out from the state government yesterday, some good news regarding the occurrence of a quareneaus and bad news regarding the population of fish stocks. But I can't I mean think about the most iconic things you can fish for in South Australia. How many of them right now are banned? Snapper, garfish, kalamari. It's a lot, it's a lot of It's a lot of iconic things that get people going to regional centers and going out fishing and doing all the wonderful things we associate with standing on jetties and some of our really lovely regional towns, I'd said to Canberra. Phil Curry, the political editor of The finn Review, joins us Phil good Morning that morning.
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Speaker 4: Phil will was making the good point earlier about how you've been immersed for the last few week in getting to the bottom of what the likely sort of capital gains tax changes are and what else is on the table with the budget. Well and truly on the horizon.
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Speaker 1: Now what what are you? What are you? What sort of shape you think it's taking.
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Speaker 20: Well, they keep sort of changing the capital gains, but I think we've written over the last six weeks about every possible option because yeah, this is what they're going to do, and then they change their mind.
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Speaker 1: But from what we what we can.
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Speaker 20: Sort of probably safely say at this stage is that they will be scrapping. Like I say, if you've got an investment field for more than twelve months. Under the current rule the ones existed since ninety nine, if you sell it, you get a fifty percent discount on the capital game.
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Speaker 21: No longer.
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Speaker 20: Regardless, they're going to go back to the pre ninety nine system, the one that Paul Keating introduced, where the deduction the capital gains deduction based on inflation. So you're basically you deduct you deduct from your capital gain what inflation has been over the.
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Speaker 8: Life of the asset.
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Speaker 20: You pay tax on an arrest. That's a sort of general way of describing it. So it's sort of a bit of swings in aroundabout Sometimes it might be more generous, over in general it's less generous, so that there'll be some sort of saving. It's more complicated to work out. But what we can also say to it won't just be they won't just make that change for housing, and it'll be on all assets such as shares, you know it, works of art or whatever, any other investments. So there's going to be controversy there, especially with the non residential property like farms and startups and small businesses. There's going to be blown back on that.
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Speaker 13: So that's sort of where up to.
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Speaker 20: What we can't get clarity on is whether the changes will be retrospective, whether you know, because when John how changed the ruined ninety ninety nine and brought in the fifty percent, if you had an asset you had before that, then that would be so big to the old the old scheme, and so it's unclear whether they're going to sort of try and make this retrospective in a fight in some way to assets. So I just sort of hold our flight or budget.
01:01:58
Speaker 4: Night on that.
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Speaker 20: But they definitely look for money, you know, I think I think more generally, Dave is, you know, the government's got to the point where it's spent so much money it's now looking for revenue to try and cover all this spending. So they're going after increasing taxes, ere changing taxes there, and putting the sort of gloss on it's all of that inter generational fairness. So that's that's sort of where up to at the moment. I mean, we saw last week they finally did what it needed to be done on the Endy Is, so you know, you get to give them credit for that for putting the bri into that thing, because that was just completely unsustainable and so much money as being roordered and wasted in it. But now we're sort of back to talking about taxes again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just on capital gains field, you mentioned it would be applied the changes we applied across all asset classes. Internally, what are the governments saying about the reasons behind that beyond you know, simplifying the system because some people, some people might bind are about if it's about intergenerational inequality, if the playing field's totally leveled between say safe shares and housing, well then it might not lead people to abandoned housing in his investment vehicle, and therefore it might not have the downward impact on housing prices you might imagine.
01:03:15
Speaker 20: Yeah, that's right, And I just saw the Assistant Treasurer Daniel Molino got asked on Sky News and it was that good question because a lot of young people put their money into stock market they can't afford houses. And one way you can get a housing deposit or established wealth outside of property is using shares. So if you if you pin that, if you pair that back in the same way as you do housing, that's exactly right. And that's you know, that's not clear the you know, we're at the start of this process. For example, they looked at the fifty deduction and just reducing that to thirty three percent and just for housing, right so, and that's a cleaner way of doing it. But for whatever reason they've decided not to go down that part. I think they're probably scared of having a fight with the property industry. You know, the government took timid You noticed last week the Prime Minister sort of put any thought of a gas tax to the sword because now it's not gonna be time of picking fire with that sector when you're when you're sort of you know, catching petrol of all these training partnersh you know, they're anticipating a pretty big blue with on the NDU S. There's all these sort of people start narrow casting agreements on that and sort of this is the least hostile when you do this on property. The property sector said on the weekend, and we can live with that. Going back to the on inflation, wy don't we don't have a problem with that. It's not much of a change, but it's a good point. Will It becomes hard to sort of make into generational argument when you're just sort of treating everything and not really changing the materially. Again, I just cant but yeah, they might use whatever revenue they make, just sort of a puff up at five dollars a week tax cut. We're all going to get on the genitoy one.
01:04:53
Speaker 1: What about negative gearing? Feel any developments on that front, because.
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Speaker 20: Look again it's again it's highly speculated, so you know, don't take to the bank. But if you have sort of tell demand and answer me today, I think what they might be doing on that is back to where what labor tried to do in twenty nine and twenty sixteen, And that means if you have a negatively geared property, you're fine. It won't affect any existing negatively geared assets. But after the change comes into effect, you'll learn about to negatively gear new homes if you buy. If you buy a property of a negatively earing it have to be a new build, but not not an existing Now that's what I'm hearing. But again, you know, don't rush out in the panic based on what I've just said, please, because that might change again and it may not be locked in. Negative hearing is a bit diceyot politically because Alban easy explicitly promised not to touch it before the election. They were very they were very shifty on capital gains. They had a cabinet meeting sometime last term. But don't don't put a fall for this bruise that this is just something they've pulled out of the air. They'll be wanting to go after capital gains rags And they had a capital They had a cabinet meeting class term where it was basically said, no one ruled out capital games before the election, and you won't find it quoth of any minutester capital games for the election, because I've been want to do this for a long time. Whereas they were more emphatic on negnique hearing so well the government's broken promises in the past. You know, the last term it went after superannuation and it changed the states be tax cut and they were both pretty big broken promises. So I've sort of got away that they're probably feeling that you get away with it again, and they just pressed it up in the intergenerational space. You know, someone said to me, the best way to look after the future generations not to give my trillion dollars in debt, you know, you know, there's probably, you know, something we need to focus on as much as the twigaging tax roads.
01:06:40
Speaker 4: Great stuff as always Phil phil Coury, the national political editor for the Australian Financial Review.
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Speaker 1: It's thirty minutes to wait. We might quickly check traffic and we're going to come up with We come back with a trial by jury in just a moment that will be showdown related. We're going to tackle one of the thought bubbles that's been knocking around Australian football circles. With the jury verdict on the.
01:07:04
Speaker 2: Other side of this knockdown, build two with metro homes, move into one and keep the other as an investment.
01:07:11
Speaker 3: Metro Homes.
01:07:12
Speaker 9: They do it all for you.
01:07:14
Speaker 3: Deem Vik pen berthe and Wild Goodings five Double a Breakfast.
01:07:20
Speaker 1: Nine to eight. It's a wild idea that got raised during gather around. It's gained traction in Victoria. The prospect of a showdown. We've got one on Friday night. How long have we fought to have a showdown played in primetime? And even then the app will put another game on at the same time as well. But anyway, baby steps for the showdown.
01:07:38
Speaker 4: That's it.
01:07:38
Speaker 1: Everyone appreciates his suspective, but it's one of the great rivalries in Australian sport and there is a desire I think from people who know football in South Australian Victoria and elsewhere that it deserves. It deserves premacy. It should be on Friday nights, it should be on Thursday night. Should be something that everyone gets to see. There is a wild idea that's been postulated by some in the Victorian media that should be played as perhaps a one off at the mcg an EBCG Showdown. I'd tell you I reckon it would sell out. A good idea or madness eight double two to three double double jury assemble, someone's winning hundreds worth of semtas seafood. Do you think there is merit in this idea or madness?
01:08:21
Speaker 4: Well, the principle is the showdown is the local derby, so it has to be local. Well, you could say the same thing about the state of origin football in the NRL Queensland for New South Wales that's been on the road now for more than a decade. They've played them in Perth, they've played them here in Adelaide, they've played them in Melbourne many times. The argument goes that it's a clash that is so intense that it's a huge advertisement for the game. The same could be said of the showdown. You know that's so often and we all know the old saying form counts for nothing in showdowns. So many showdowns have just been like beyond awesome. And you know, I've got mates in Victoria and New South Wales and Canberra who with our little WhatsApp footy chats so often I reckon every year I get messages from going I just want to go to a showdown one day. There's such good games.
01:09:22
Speaker 1: It would democratize the showdown, but if you take it out of the city it divides. Is it the same spectacle?
01:09:29
Speaker 4: People on li w incomes are going to be right to go. I've now I got to fly to Melbourne and go to the shadown and make it, make it exclusive. Two tanks of petrol? What's that going to cost me to get?
01:09:38
Speaker 1: You might be cheaper to fly eight double two three double o double one hundred dollars with the semptas seafood for someone who's on the jury. Is their merit in an MCG showdown or is this concept simply madness? Let's go to during number one, what say you, I reckon.
01:09:55
Speaker 22: It's the reverse what the premier don't see bringing sport there is and they they've taken us to go are there.
01:10:00
Speaker 13: To make money?
01:10:02
Speaker 1: So what's your verdict? Durring number one, I hope not no madness, Thank you for that. During number two, good morning, good.
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Speaker 22: Morning, definitely not showdown should be played on Anzac day at Adelaide, oble alternating between the clubs.
01:10:21
Speaker 1: As ownt Thank you Joan. That has an interesting idea as well. During number two, thank you. During number three, good.
01:10:27
Speaker 16: Morning, good morning, absolute madness, hands off Victoria, no.
01:10:34
Speaker 1: Madness, thank you your number three? What I mean ones? If they they got off at a fund our health department for a year or so, I'd like to start talking. Then you're number four, Good morning, absolute madness, Bijoin, you don't care man, that should be lucky.
01:10:49
Speaker 16: If two half as thady, what a load of crappy the hell thought of this one?
01:10:53
Speaker 1: Thank you you're number four, you're a number five, good morning.
01:10:58
Speaker 19: I think it's a fantastic idea.
01:11:00
Speaker 22: Only if they bring the Battle of the Q.
01:11:04
Speaker 19: Clash down to Adelaide. I reckon, it's a fantastic great idea.
01:11:08
Speaker 4: Only if they do that, you might get more people at the qu class in Adelaide than you do in Queensland. I reckon, I knew who that one was.
01:11:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we might. Raymond on the text line says madness it wouldn't sell in Victoria. I think it would.
01:11:29
Speaker 4: I don't think you get a sellout. I reckon, you get at least eighty five.
01:11:33
Speaker 1: You don't get him because you don't sell out Collingwood if it's not Anzac Day doesn't necessarily sell out. So but I think you get a decent crowd, and there is that. They have the luxury because they've got the MCG and Victoria of a culture where you can say it's a good game of footy on it the G tonight should we go? Yeah, we just don't have that luxury in in Southustralia. It's too how to get a ticket?
01:11:53
Speaker 4: Well, don't you think the biggest stumbling bock to this might be well, it's either going to be a Crow's home game or a port home game. Which club is going to sell it? Or rather which club is going to give up all that income? Because it's you're only doing it because you're receiving a lot of income. No one's doing it at a loss. Well, yeah, it would be predicated on make sure though.
01:12:14
Speaker 1: That's right. Well, but I think the model we'd be talking about, if even to seriously, would be the government chips in. The Victorian government pays for the event.
01:12:23
Speaker 4: Well, actually that might work.
01:12:24
Speaker 1: They pay for anything, and they and look, you can make up any stupid number and they'll say, yep, when your child's born in Victoria, to give you a free fishing rod, we want a trillion dollars for it, all right, okay, al right, that sounds reasonable. They might.
01:12:36
Speaker 4: They might try to do it as like there's some sort of belt and road initiative too. Oh you think maybe you could be well, cause he's got the contacts up north exactly right.
01:12:49
Speaker 1: Might have been playing the long game. I think that's a big madness. The verdict from the jurors. Who wins the hundred dollars with a samtasi food, Let's give it to during number three, during number three, one hundred dollars of semitas seafood. He's a novel concept. Somebody has said, no way, unless we trade it for the formula one. Would you do that deal? What happen. Would you do that deal? We've already got the motorcycles, let's have the cars. Well, yeah, the contract's got a little bit longer to run.
01:13:16
Speaker 4: Bring it all back.
01:13:17
Speaker 3: Why not?
01:13:21
Speaker 16: Absolute madness, hands off.
01:13:23
Speaker 2: Victorious knockdown, build two with metro homes, move into one and keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes.
01:13:32
Speaker 3: They do it all for you. Deep and pen Berthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
01:13:40
Speaker 1: Seven minutes after ray, beautiful morning outside and adelaid four consecutive days of spectacular weather on the way. We're getting some very crawdy ideas about how the showdown might be used as a bargaining chip with Victoria on the text line, which is sort of an unintended consequence of our jury that we just conducted a short time ago. Jeff says we could trade Showdown for Zach Butter's in Formula one. Thank you, And someone else suggested they're all for the idea of the MCG showdown. If it means three showdowns, which we probably should have seen that coming, that's an excellent idea. Well, that is the state of origin model, isn't it. Well? I think what could three games? And it's only that we're not getting an extra home game, so what would be the Coxactly, there's no sort of you know, you can't take it off one and not the other, that's right, So you know we're not shooting the integrity of the AFL fixture. I think it will happen. I reckon it will definitely happen at some point. Yeah, I'm not convinced. We'll see. Well, they're feedback from our lives. There's a bit of momentum for it, that's for sure. Just before eight thirty this morning, it's thirty years since port Arthur will be chatting with the former newspaper and TV journalist Mark Thomas, who was there. I've heard him interviewed on the subject previously and if it is something that is if interest to you, it's certainly a huge part of the last thirty years of history in this country. We will You're not going to want to miss Mark, who's about ten minutes away.
01:15:04
Speaker 4: Breaking at eight.
01:15:04
Speaker 1: We'll hit the fuck. We love this story.
01:15:09
Speaker 4: We love good news stories and they don't get any better than this because it's about something which, for some weird reason, culturally in Australia we seem to have an aversion or a reluctance perhaps more accurately to discussing the idea of philanthropy.
01:15:23
Speaker 1: It's seen as kind of.
01:15:24
Speaker 4: Showy or big noting, but when you think about how many community organizations, how much medical research, so many important things are underpinned by the act of giving. And we're not talking here necessarily about multimillionaires, but just sort of crafting your income in a way with a view to helping out.
01:15:41
Speaker 1: Well, how's this.
01:15:42
Speaker 4: South Australia is about to become the first state to have what is going to be known as a Giving Week, running from May four to eight. It's a landmark statewide initiative which is set to help everyday Australians discover the joys of giving and crucially to work out that they've got a little or a lot how to give where it matters most. It's the brainchild of our guest Kay Burton, who we have in the studio this morning.
01:16:08
Speaker 1: Kay, so nice to see you here.
01:16:10
Speaker 4: Likewise, they always have catching up. We've spoken a few times on and off over the last couple of years about how philanthropy doesn't have the sort of elevated prominence in Australia that it does, say in a country like your homeland, the US does it.
01:16:25
Speaker 21: And I think I've been here for sixteen years now, so I like to say I do sound Americans too, but I have inherited the values. We're just so humble, you know, and we just don't talk about enough. You look around the streets and you hear about all these incredible organizations that are doing remarkable work and the people that are actually giving, and we just don't talk about it. And so we've always thought, well, you know, how do we encourage more people to get into giving it, into philanthropy to actually, you know, make sure that the money gets to the people that need most. And we said, well, what if we put it on a platform, and we said, let's give you a week you know where we actually celebrate it. So that's kind of where the idea came from.
01:16:58
Speaker 4: And you've got some big names getting behind it, to former governors in Kevin Scarse and he Van Lee.
01:17:03
Speaker 21: You've got some the current current governor is also going to host the reception the launch at Government House, so she's been a wonderful advocate.
01:17:10
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:17:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, So one of the big events too, is on the Friday. So you've got the guy who founded Intrepid Travel. It made a crazy amount of money, but you just got to this point where he said, you know, you can't take it with you. I'm actually going to take this money and use it for good. How does somebody like that sort of manage that process and how do you use his example at the more sort of mum and dad suburban level for people he might have a few grand squareled away and think well maybe I could do something here himself.
01:17:39
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:17:39
Speaker 21: Absolutely, So the idea was to have a week in which we could have a series of events across the week, and they are catered for every single type of giver, so volunteers all the way up to the people that are structured giving, so that we've actually got sixteen events already. So we've pulled this together quite quickly. We've got sixteen events. They're open to the public and they're completely free to attend, so anyone's stay can come along that's interested, and the idea is to inspire and educate people to get back. So that lunch that we're having with Darrel Wade on the Friday is the sort of we're going to cap the week off, and he's got an incredible story and you can come in here and listen along. But you know he started as a backpacker. Yeah, so you know he was a backpacker who've ended up founding in Trepid Travel. And it's often the case that people who have lived, experience and travel and see the world and realize how bloody lucky we are in this country come back and say, oh, I've got to do something about this, and I've got to get back. So he's gone on to have an incredible career and not only giving personally, but you know also through in Trepid Travel, but throughout the week we've got incredible international national speakers that are going to tell stories just like his.
01:18:45
Speaker 1: It sounds like, in reading what you guys have put out about this, there's two components to not they're not barriers, but they're impediments to giving in south the strike at the moment, and you've identified one there about natural humble nature. People don't want to sort of look at me sort of thing. But the other things you're trying to do is create pathways by which you'd sort of normalize these sort of least structure it in a way. It sounds as though immature might not be the right word. But do we not have well developed ways that if people have the intention of giving, they just don't even know where to start the process.
01:19:15
Speaker 12: We'll put it this way.
01:19:16
Speaker 21: All the infrastructure is there. We have incredible organizations right that can actually help people along their journeys, advisors, lawyers, film, tropic organizations. People often just don't know where to start. Yeah, and that is the number one thing I get asked all the time. So last year I counted I had three hundred and fifty coffees with people from all South Australians from walks of life, corporates, volunteers, etc. And they're like, look, we want to give back, we just don't know where to start. Because philanthropy and giving is one of those sort of you know, big words that people kind of get a bit intimidated about and they think, well, I just I just don't I don't know where to start, so I'm not going to get involved. So what we're saying through this week is we'll come in the door, we'll show you, we'll provide those pathways. We can educate you on the different ways that you can give back, everything from volunteering all the way up to having those conversations with you advisors is wide range is a.
01:20:02
Speaker 1: Byproduct of that that historically donations have gone to a narrow field of recipients, and in fact there's probably a far broader group of places that you would survive on philanthropy that just haven't because they're just not in the public consciousness necessarily.
01:20:17
Speaker 21: Sure, So to put in perspective, we have in South Australia on so let's just say nationally there are over sixty thousand charities, right, that's a big cast net. South Australia, we've got thirty five hundred, right, and those are the registered charities. So you imagine when it comes to tax time and people are looking to donate, they just don't know where their money is going to go. They just don't know who's out there, et cetera. So we're trying to make it easier to direct people to those. But the reality of it is, I think it's like a number that eighty percent of the funding goes to about the top ten percent of charities, right, So you've got all these wonderful and very effective small to medium sized charities, especially in South Australia that are delivering meals. You know that are sort of packing up kits from mums in the hospitals, et cetera. And they're struggling right now, you know, and they do or they don't get government funding, so they rely on sort of the generous nature of South Australia. So that's where we're trying through this week to kind of highlight and amplify those voices and say, look, look in your local communities and see how you can give that.
01:21:13
Speaker 1: Is there a sort of matchmaker element to this as well? Where we have you're in those coffees, you having conversations about the sorts of people imagine what they might have an idea of I'd like to support this kind of thing. Does that even exist here? And that's where you guys come in.
01:21:26
Speaker 21: Absolutely, And so it's funny you say that. So last year what I did is I launched a platform called give Essay and it was the result of all these coffees I was having because people were coming to me and saying, you know, I'm interested in the arts, I'm interested in education or indigenous and I'm like, well, what would happen if we could create a system where we could actually anyone, any charity in South Australia who had a project that needed fundy for could post it for free, almost like Seek for philanthropy.
01:21:49
Speaker 12: So I've created that.
01:21:50
Speaker 21: It's called give Essay, so you can actually go on for free and browse and see whatever projects are out there. So I am calling myself a charitable matchmaker.
01:21:58
Speaker 4: And K two. Obviously we're a unique point in history where the most affluent generation that has ever lived is you know, not long for this world, the baby boomers. Jeez, my parents aren't listening while I say that, but you know, Mum and Dad love you to bits, but the reality is that the post war kids aren't going to live forever. So in SA our split of what's been described as the intergenerational wealth trands, so it's about one hundred and ten billions. There's so much money because for the bequest sort of angle to this often does come when people do pass.
01:22:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, doesn't it?
01:22:37
Speaker 21: And five point four trillion across Australia huge moment. We're never going to see anything like this in Australia or South Australia. And so if you're thinking about it, if we could even tap into one percent of that, imagine the impact that could have for the charitable sector here, and so that's why I think, you know, this education piece about you know, inspiring people to give back in any way, shape or form and whatever you know works best for you and your family is important. It's also about it inspiring the next generation. You know, we've got you know, Julian and I have five kids, and it's important to us to kind of role model to them the importance of helping others and giving back, and hopefully others in the community see this opportunity as well, you know, and how do we set up our kids and future generations to get back and so hopefully, you know, if people are listening and driving along and they're thinking giving week and they just hear the word giving, it's going to start sort of getting the bales turney in their head and saying what.
01:23:22
Speaker 3: Do we do?
01:23:23
Speaker 4: It's a really excellent initiative, MK, and it's a credit to you and the people around your Nigellian's involved as well, that you are getting stuck in to elevate this. Hopefully it gets a lot of other media coverage in the becoming days and weeks and isn't just a one off as well. But for now, okay, thank you so much for coming in and all the very best for giving week next week.
01:23:43
Speaker 21: And I will say one other thing, this was a total you know, for anything to work in South Australia, it has to be a collaborative effort and this wouldn't have worked without all the film thropic support that we've received, you know, from the generous founders that have actually made this possible, as well as founding supporters and the organizations that have put it on. So I'd like to say thank you to them as well.
01:24:00
Speaker 1: Awesome good on you k thank.
01:24:01
Speaker 2: You knockdown build two with metro homes, move into one and keep the other as an investment Metro Homes.
01:24:13
Speaker 3: They do it all for you. David pen Burbe and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
01:24:22
Speaker 1: Today's the twenty eighth of April twenty twenty six. It was on this day thirty years ago that one of the most awful incidents in Australian history took place at a historic site in Tasmania. It came to be known as the Port Arthur Massacre. And our next guest, Mark Thomas, was working as a journalist for WIN Television at the time, and over the course of this week has told his story about a day that certainly he and the nation would never forget. Mark Thomas, good morning to you, Good morning, thank you for coming on. Mark.
01:24:56
Speaker 4: So, thinking back to that day three decades ago, how did the story begin? How did at first unfold? In terms of your involvement, it.
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Speaker 23: Started we were sitting around the newsroom at wind Televisions talking about what we were doing on the day, and our new secretary came across to a sort of little group meeting to say that she'd been listening to the police scanner. And so we'd have to remember three decades ago, we didn't there weren't mobile phones, as in our office didn't have any mobile phones. But we listened to the police scanner and she said that there'd been shotsight at Port Arthur and there were suspected debts that there were casualties. So myself and a cameraman jumped into two old s Falken station wagons and drove down towards Port Arthur. And it's quite a narrow road the other highway down there, and we were traveling at a round the speed limit, which was one hundred kilometers an hour, and a police car came past me like I was standing still and I thought this is very serious. So I sped up after the police car, thinking I'm okay to keep up with the police car. But I couldn't drive as fast as that car was going, so I dialed it back and got to the roadblock at Taranta and I was the first. We were the first team to get to the Tarana roadblock and to watch the s o G, the Special Operations Group police officers, and they were just police everywhere going further because we were outside of Port Arthur. They'd set the perimeter up outside that and we waited and filmed a lot of things and then trying to get information, which was which was very difficult. There was one ABC A reporter who did have a mobile phone and she was standing on her on the top of her car trying to get coverage. She actually ended up calling the calling the Seascape, which was where Martin Bryant made his last stand, so to speak, and was captured after that.
01:27:06
Speaker 4: So when you arrived there, Mark, had the shootings ended or was it still an active shooter type crime scene.
01:27:13
Speaker 23: We think at the time that probably the shootings at Port Arthur had finished. But again, as I said, we just didn't know. We were completely in the dark as to what was going on because at the time, as you can imagine, the police weren't overly keen on giving us giving us updates because they were doing what they were doing to get into the to get into the scene and deal with what had been left behind.
01:27:45
Speaker 4: The scale of it, though, remains to this day so hard to comrade, doesn't it?
01:27:50
Speaker 23: Well it does. I mean, I still I went back and did a story where I put to air that there had been twelve people, which in actual fact there were thirty five people killed. So I was feeling pretty pretty ordinary about the story that I wrote the next day and put to her the next day. But you know, my colleague said, well, no one knew, so that was okay, And it was really it was an incredible time because that as one can imagine, that this had never happened before in Australia, and certainly not being critical of anybody involved, and I always I've reflected this week on you know, who do we think of? And I just think of the people who were on site and dealt with what had to be what had to be dealt with. I was in the years afterwards, I became friends and worked with a man by the name of Bitery Croswell, who was at the time was the head of Camp Quality, which was a cancer organization down here which looked after kids. And he was in the Broad Arrow Cafe when Martin Brand up and started killing people. And he was with two volunteers, two older volunteers, And when Martin Bryant stood up and started shooting, he threw the volunteers onto the floor and dove on top of their bodies and shielded them with his own body, and Martin Bryant walked out of the top of him and shot him and walked out the door. Peter was injured, but he wasn't obviously wasn't killed, and we became friends and colleagues later. But it and though there were just those stories which which were everywhere, which was so frightening, I suppose, and also was four years later, you found people that had been affected by this tragedy.
01:29:48
Speaker 1: I think I heard an interview earlier in the week Mark you made the point about journalists being among many that were quite traumatized by what they saw there, because it was quite a unique tour of the site that the press were led on in the end aftermath on the.
01:30:03
Speaker 23: Tuesday after the On the Sunday, they organized a press tour, media tour and they put about twenty five journals onto the bus and took them down to the took them down to the site which was still an active crime scene. All the bodies were covered and each body had an officer the side at twenty four to seven to protect it from any passing wildlife. But they were toured around the site to see the bodies as they lay, which included the broad Hour cafe where I believe twelve people were first shot. It was just it was just extraordinary and people were affected and still out of this day.
01:30:46
Speaker 4: Are you still in kazimk I am.
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Speaker 23: I work in Hobart. It's sam Hobart today, it's a beautiful day in Hobart, which is every day it's a beautiful day in Hobart. But yes, I still work and a median communications business now. But it's still one of those one of those things that I often say that a lot of Tasmanians would prefer that we didn't talk about it, But I think on significant anniversaries like today the thirtieth anniversary, that we recall. I think the bravery of the people who were on site and recall the people who lost their lives that day.
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Speaker 4: Mark Thomas, who's working for WIN Television at the time in Hobart, still in Hobart, Mark, thank you so much for joining us on a day we wish we were able to forget. But in memory of those thirty five people, some of them kids is what primary school age and people who are just starting out to enjoy their time. Just terrible atrocity, something that changed Australia forever.
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Speaker 1: Nine minutes to nine very short. We've be chatting with doctor Magda Holt from the Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, who raised some concerns about the proposed design of the new Women's and Children's hospitals. It relates to women who present regarding concerns about how their health is before birth that can be emergency situations, specifically, the ease of access for ambulances to places in emergency is something they've raised. We're going to get into that very very shortly, but first a social We love abnormal things, David, and we couldn't let this social media post pass without further investigation. Damian McCardell from Paracombe Premium Pairs has a premium Perry has posted a picture of a giant pair. It was just a waver and actually it's so big it needs it needs something like you know, when they put a pencil next to something, is it to give you a frame of reference or a two dollar coin because it's giant. Damian mccardill. Good morning to you, Good morning, how are you?
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Speaker 4: We're good things, Damien. So what's the average pairway? Probably what one hundred and fifty two hundred grams?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, a standard pair you would find in the supermarkets would be yet one hundred and fifty to two hundred or so.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and this one's significantly bigger than that, more than five times one thousand and one grams.
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Speaker 6: Yeah. I actually took some photos of a coke can next to it, just to give it some relatively to your size. And when you put the coke can behind it, you actually can't see the can full stop, but there's just well and truly passed the size of the can.
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Speaker 1: So how on earth did it get that big?
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Speaker 6: So we've got at our cellard door a range of different pair trees which are ornamental pairs, and they've been grafted so when customers visit they can see different pairs at different stages, different blossom and all that kind of stuff. This is actually a pound pair, so they do grow quite large. Were grafted a probably five or six years ago. Over that period of time we've had a few pairs grow. Last year was a good prop This year is just a huge crop, but not only as a huge number of fruit, it's actually size of fruit as well. And where this sorry you keep going, I say where this tree is. It's right next to our fire exit of our warehouse, and the amount of pears on it was actually bending the tree down into the fire exits, so if you'd actually run out of the wahouse you'd probably knock yourself out. At least you're outside.
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Speaker 1: Then they based does the size do anything to the flavor or what they're like to eat? Damium?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, So these ones here I haven't eaten only because they're pretty much similar to like a crab apple, so very high cannon, very high astid. Right, they are supposed to be used for cooking and making cider and all that kind of stuff. We've never done it because we've only really had any number of pears in the last couple of years from this tree. But this year they're just astronomical size. And usually when people walk into our cellar door corner of their eye, they'll see it on the tree and straight away that's where they are getting photos and just checking out the enormous size of it.
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Speaker 4: So Japan holds the record. They grew a pair that way, just shy of three kilos two point nine four eight kilos. Are you going to Are you going to get the get the fertilizer out and see if you can knock them off their their perch at some stage, Damien Well, I.
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Speaker 6: Did tag neutrog in that being a local federalizer company, to say if they want to assist with this, But look the number of pairs on the tree. I'm sure if we took three quarters of those off and the tree put the energy into the ones that were remaining, there would be a pretty damn good chance of getting really really good size. Whether we get the three killows, I'm not sure, but they'll give it a crack.
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Speaker 4: You could probably make you know, a liter of Scrumpy with one of these pairs.
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Speaker 1: Amazing.
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Speaker 6: Well you might even be able to do more than that. Yeah, but now the size is just incredible. So it's just something you just don't see things like that every everyone pieces of fruit and some one. But this is one of those things that really gets your eye, get your attention, and you've just got to have a selfie.
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Speaker 9: Or something with it.
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Speaker 4: That's awesome. Damien, great chat mate, excellent pair of work. Damien mccardal from Paracombe Premium Perry. I love Paracane, great winery there, Paracane.
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Speaker 1: Really it is a beautiful spot.
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Speaker 4: Great golf course too. I love the Paracane golf course. It's a good workout that course. It's pretty hilly.
01:36:24
Speaker 1: You haven't had a hole in two there.
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Speaker 4: No give you a good quick pear recipe though from Elizabeth you might book of French Cooking, best French cookbook ever written. Slice some pears. Cook them gently in butter, but increase the heat a bit. Put in some sugar as well, so they caramelize you put in brown sugar and put in white sugar. Then get a vanilla pod. Costs you a bit, but it tastes amazing. Put some cream in, scrape the vanilla into the cream serve. It's the easiest dessert and it tastes stunning.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds amazing. Stuff all ingredients and the pair is the hero. A lot of cream required for a pair that big.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you'd need probably about get on the Flurio milk people so they can give you a.
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Speaker 1: Ten wet type of cream. R four day to night. We're going to check traffic and come back with a concern about the design of the new Women's and Children's hospital. That's next.
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Speaker 1: Ten minutes to nine. The new Women's and Children's hospital has been long promised. We've got a pretty smart looking new car park that's going up there at the moment, but there are still concerns about the final design decisions that have been taken by the state government. Most recently raised by the Royal Australian New Zealand College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists who have concern about the Women's Assessment Service to be located on a different level. So the ambulance of resuscitation base now. The hospital says, well, we've got a lift, we've got contingencies in place that mean this is not an issue, but the Royal College of Obstrucians and Gynecologists says this represents a threat to women who present to the hospital in a state of physical distress before or after they've been in labor. For example, doctor mag Dehlt joins us out doctor Holt.
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Speaker 24: Good morning, good morning, thanks for having me on.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, doctor Holt.
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Speaker 4: Common sense would suggest, what it not that the best place for this is the ground floor.
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Speaker 24: Yeah, that's what we're hoping for current hospital. The emergency services on the grand floor co located with the pediatric emergency department and the resuscitation bays are there as well, so as the women are come out of an ambulance, they are quickly transported into what's known Women's Assessments Service, which is the Women's incy Service, and then can get the care they need.
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Speaker 1: So these are these for ailments distinct a doctor Holt from the sorts of things that would see people sent to another emergency department. I'm thinking in the context of one of the reasons we have the co location of the Women's and Children's and the RAH is because of a series of incidents that happened at the old Women's and Children's hospital where people needed to be transported to an emergency department elsewhere and that was too far away, So that was the argument for co location. But these are discrete medical emergencies, are they that would need to be treated at the new hospital facility?
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Speaker 19: Yeah.
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Speaker 24: So most of the emergencies that presents to the Women's and Children's are to do with pregnancy or labor or in the periods before and after, but there are also quite a number of other emergencies that are gynecological emergencies that can present there, and women who are very unwell with other conditions exacerbated by iecological obstetric problem. I'm just going to sort of the fine co location at the moment, because it was initially planned to be co located at the new hospital with Royal Adlete, so we were going to go into that little triangle right next to the Royal lad Latter hospital. But this hospital is not co located. It's near, but not next to right next to it, So maketu for a little trickier, and therefore we need strong designs and contingencies in the case that a woman does need an adult intensive care unit or other adult clinical specialties, that she gets those within a very short time, because time is of essence in those critical those critical times.
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Speaker 1: So is what we're doing here unique. Are there other women's assessment services that are above the ground floor and other.
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Speaker 24: Hospitals next Yeah, in a way it's unique. Most other hospitals are co located, so right next to our old general hospital. Certainly we already have that unique situation in North Adelaide, but the North Adllite facility lacks adult intensive care units, which is in the design for this new hospital, although we are still waiting on confirmation of staffing by adults. But we do need to think it different when it is not side by side, because even that small distance of less than a kilometer between where it's proposed and where it's the Royal adlaid Is is going to cause delays and care.
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Speaker 1: We need to put on the level sorry, just on the level six element of this. I'm just wondering, are we trying to forge new ground here or are other women's Assessment Services and other hospitals above ground floor, Not that.
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Speaker 24: I'm aware of, they're usually on the same level as the ambulance entrance. That is common and conventional because that streamlines the access.
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Speaker 4: Given that you guys are on the record, doctor Whole is sounding a war about this, and sais MOA, the Salaried Medical Officers Association, is also now on the record airing similar concerns. I wonder how did it get to this point anyway? What Surely there is enough clinical input into the design of a hospital. The clinicians obviously should be cheeked by jow sitting there with the people with their mechanical pencils as they're drawing the thing to make sure something like this doesn't happen.
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Speaker 24: Well, the design has changed so much over time, and there's certainly been consultation with them, the networks, so the women's and Children's hospital. But I think the obvious thing here is, you know, we obviously need more consultations because there's a lack of clarity. How what sort of contingencies are provided and how designs are moving and I think sometimes the issue here is that the designs have moved on and the consultation has it. So I think we would invite more consultation than Rebecca graham A, their CEO of the Women's Children's' is at records. They're saying that this will be happening. So we really invite that and want to be part of that process. But I think a more concurrent and perhaps broader consultation is needed as well.
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Speaker 1: Don't want to put you on the spot, but do you think it's still going to cost three point two billion dollars?
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Speaker 24: I'm a terrible person to ask about, but look, I don't think it's going to be cheap.
01:43:30
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't sound like it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the only thing in Australia the price of which hasn't gone up for two years.
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Speaker 1: Doctor mcn the.
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Speaker 24: He's really a.
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Speaker 4: Lot of things.
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Speaker 4: Often of the Kalamari One of the great lines from Ray Winston in the excellent British noir crime thriller Sexy Beast, in which Ben Kingsley plays the role of a lifetime as Don Logan, than.
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Speaker 1: His role as Gandy. I would argue absolutely did.
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Speaker 4: Ben Kingsley as Don Logan is just one of Yeah, Gandy is a great film and and his performance, says Gandy is incredible. But for my warped appetite Sexy Beast I think is one of the all time great movies. But anyway, best actor leading role in nineteen eighty two, Sorry, not in eighty three.
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Speaker 1: The film I can't believe Gandy came out in nineteen eighty two.
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Speaker 4: I can remember saying it and Jesus it was a long watch, particularly given I was probably eleven.
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Speaker 1: At the time.
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Speaker 4: There's a very moving film. Assassination.
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Speaker 1: Don't give it away. Wow, student's history. You've got to bleg up on this one, Isn't it give you a clue? Gandy doesn't make it?
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I do remember being in the cinema thinking is this movie ever going to end? But yeah, and again basically to movie cinema, to my father's warped appetites in films for kids weren't allowed to see Star Wars, were allowed to see Gandy and the Elephant Man. Do you know what it surprised me.
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Speaker 1: I remember seeing Rocky in the cinema. Oh, that would have been amazing about like nine. Well, that's a similar sort of couple of year period there. Well, obviously he liked going to the movies with you. Yeah, and because what was Rocky?
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Speaker 4: I actually remember Dad took me to Apocalypse Now, when I was at high school and we got to the region cinema, if this is our sir, he's not allowed in.
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Speaker 1: If they didn't let you in at all. Well, I was like thirteen, nineteen seventy six, Rocky, so it probably was seventy seven seventy eight by the time it came to Australia. Do you know eighty years ago a very good film for an eight year old is it's a confronting film for an eight year old? Eighty years ago, people went to the film to the movies twice a month. That was the average this North American a man twice a month eighty years ago. So in the forties fifties, I imagine probably our our approach that probably lagged it by a decade.
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Speaker 4: Well, Bill Collins called them the Golden years of Hollywood for a reason, didn't.
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Speaker 1: He twice month people typically went to That was the average person went to the movies twice a month. Due it is in twenty twenty six. I don't even think it would be.
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Speaker 4: Is it annual?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Twice a year, twice a year. Wow, The average now is twice a year. Eighty years ago it was twice a month.
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Speaker 4: How from a yego? Well, so I post rosy, how off an you go?
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Speaker 1: I could probably tell you how many times I've been to the movie in the three and a half years she's been alive, and I reckon it's fewer than oh, if we don't count kids' films. Yeah, yeah, I'm not talking about it. I reckon I've been Zootopia. I think I've seen two movies in the cinema since she's been born. Eight double two to three double a double was the last movie our listeners saw at the movies? Was the last time you're at the movies? Eight double two three double a double? Ah See, I love it.
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Speaker 4: Whenever I go to the meetings, I think, why didn't I do this more often? But I reckon, kid the arrival of kids really stuffs up your cinema attending because it feels like one of those things. It's not quite babysit are worthy enough to we're going to the films. We'll get a babysitter, like you sort of save babysitter for you've got a mate's fortieth or fiftieth or yeah, major events, a birthday, dinner with your wife or something like that. But just popping down the road to the Capri. I feel like would get you know, hassle mum and dad.
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Speaker 1: I'm not really the kind of you know your life's over once you have kids kind of person, but you do reflect on some things that do change. And now it seems like such a luxury. My wife and I used to have it every year. We go, let's work out roughly what the eight Best picture nominations are going to be, and we're going to try and get to the cinema and see all of them. How are you doing that? That was always our thing that was that was like really, now, good luck. I couldn't tell you what any of the nomination its word a littlone going to see them. It's still a thing that happens. It is a total mythday that your life's over when you.
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Speaker 4: Have kids, like rubbish, your life, your life. I think it's better. But which isn't to say that people have chosen not to have kids or can't have kids. You know, necessarily their lives are the poorer for it, because plenty of people who don't. But I think when they're your own kids, you know, you love them so much that everything's entertaining and new and fun completely, But yeah, it is things like you know, when you got a baby, the act of leaving the house suddenly takes hours.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they can, can't it? Oh my goodness. I'm just someone.
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Speaker 4: Putting together a peg Perego brand the other day at the supermarket and I thought, geez, I'm glad that's over. I love going to puddle Jumpers like every every passing year of.
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Speaker 1: Life stuff on, get rid of it all. Some recent movie going from our audience. Adam recently saw Project Hail Mary. See once upon on Project Our Mary is the exact kind of thing I would have really liked to go see in the cinema. I have not. I'm jealous of you, Adam. Lots of people seen the Michael Jackson film as well. Do you want to give us a review of the Michael Jackson film.
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Speaker 5: It's it's a split split audience is about whether it really gets into the nitty gritty, which is a view that doesn't quite Ben loved it though, and Jane with the Wife says, we went to see Michael last Sunday and we go every month.
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Speaker 1: Generally. Good on you, Jane, that is excellent. Anyone from Sefton Park listening this morning. Anyone buy a lotto ticket at Sefton Park, the News Express in the Sefton Park. That Sefton Plaza shopping center on Main North Road is the site of an unclaimed but purchased two million dollar winning lotto ticket. So someone Saturday purchase. The draw was on Saturday night, was on ANZAC Day three Division one winners nationally two million bucks. Anyone at the Sefton Plaza shopping center on Saturday, if you bought a ticket, you mon't want to check it out, to be nice to find out you weren't away. I think I've got that. It's somewhere. I've just too. I actually have two million dollars in cash coming my way. Nice little oversight. Jillian good Creeks called it in the program, Julie, good morning to.
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Speaker 6: You that I love sixty Beast.
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Speaker 4: Sorry, Julie, you're saying you love sexy Beast.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that mayvieeks great.
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Speaker 4: It's an incredibly good film, isn't it.
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Speaker 6: Oh?
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Speaker 7: Absolutely? But I did go to the movies about a month ago, I guess, and saw Songs Sewing Blue, which is a bit of a fluff movie.
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Speaker 8: You don't like.
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Speaker 3: That.
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Speaker 7: I was the person, so.
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Speaker 9: Got chopped top, got up.
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Speaker 7: Geez, choice of seats are pretty So I got up there and sat there and got the recliner going and stung my little heart out because no one was listening. Maybe the usher might have been and had a bit of a giggle, but uh.
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Speaker 9: It was great.
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Speaker 7: But yes, it was just me and nobody else.
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Speaker 1: Oh, Julie, a lot fun though. It's nice to have the big street all to yourself. Put the feed up, relax. Not great for the cinema, but good for you, Julie. Lots of texts coming through. Jody's going to see Devil West prior to two. This week, Ben from Seaford Meadows went to see I Swear and the Mario Galaxy Movie at the cinemas. Recently, Peter's reminiscing about hiding in the car boot going to the drive in. He says, try telling kids that was something that you did once upon a time, Tessa, and Practice says, can verify the kids change everything. Last movie I saw was the Wonker movie with the Timothy Shamalay. Caught it while pregnant at the Victor Harburt Cinema. Can't get to the movies now with a Todd Lady one who knows the Bluey episode where Banddeake's Bluey and Bingo to the movies, knows how that goes. Brent the Milky hasn't been for a few years. Brent's last movie at the cinema's Hunt for Red October about nineteen eighty five or something, late eighties. Yeah, very young Alex Baldwin. I just I worked it out last time I went to the movies and it was great. It was great, really really good fun.
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Speaker 4: That was packed, although regrettably, showing my immaturity, there was no crowd carry on. Went to see the Minecraft movie. That's at Wallace in the Lunga, which is a lovely cinema, but everyone was really well behaved. Well, if that's not why you go to see Minecraft, the Chicken Jockey, Mayhem, Hunt for Art's over. It's released in nineteen ninety actually, Connan McGill, good morning.
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Speaker 9: Good morning tellers. You mentioned twice a month in the old days in the sixties, I lived at near Kensington Road, this Courts Cinema there we used to go twice a week that all the biblical classics on the weekends, et cetera.
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Speaker 1: And would you.
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Speaker 9: Believe Wednesday night was launch night two two Yankee films of Cowboy and Indian films. I can't believe our parents would let it. So Wednesday night, get home at quarter to eleven and go to school next.
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Speaker 1: That's brilliant, John fantastic, educated by the by the movies. Tony and Darwin, good morning, hey.
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Speaker 8: Guys here on the Sexy based I mean Ben Kingsley when they pick him up from the airport. The conversation in the car.
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Speaker 1: Yes, the description of how hot he is in that show, guys.
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Speaker 8: I saw two movies in two days last week in Bangkok. I was killing some time. It's about seven dollars to go to the to watch a movie and projectile berry at the convenience store with the two movies, which were very good. But at seven dollars a shot, you don't.
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Speaker 4: Mind amazing, that's good value. Nice work toning up there in bangers.
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Speaker 1: Breakfast twenty two after seix. It's an important meeting given the parlor start of the relationship between our two biggest allies, the UK and the US. The King arriving in the United States and meet with the US President Donald Trump, against the backdrop of an assassination attempt at the at the ballroom there that really through this whole meeting into question. In the last twenty four hours would it go ahead? Both parties agreed that it should and it has. Vincent mcaviny, a UK correspondent, has been following it all very closely. Vincent, the King has met Donald Trump. Are you surprised that the meeting went ahead given all that's transpired?
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Speaker 10: No, I don't think so. I mean, obviously, you know, it was a dramatic event over the weekend, but everyone was safe. It was dealt with effectively. The attackle was you know, quite far away from my understanding in the hotel complex, and clearly a lot of planning has gone into the King's visit, the places that they will be hosted and what they'll be doing, and it will maybe just sort of sharpen the security presence, but they will have had a huge planning in place for months for the security. So in those last ten minutes, we've just seen images of King Charles, his wife Queen Camilla, and President Trump and First Lady Milannia Trump having their sort of welcoming afternoon tea in the White House and they appear to be chatting away ahead of a busy few days of schedule.
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Speaker 4: Are there any risks do you think in this trip?
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Speaker 1: Vincent?
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Speaker 4: Already this morning at the final opportunity, there'd been some suggestion that the President could go off script and invite questions. That didn't happen. But you know, historically we're saying plenty of times where things have become a little bit loose and why we'd given president someone unorthodox political style. Do you think the Stama government would be watching this with gritted teeth.
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Speaker 6: Somewhat?
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Speaker 10: Although you know, the benefit that King Charles has is that I've gone to covered royal events that he's attended and ones like his mother did as well, and though it's to a lesser extent with him, there is something that happens when you are in the presence of someone who is the head of state, who is the sort of leader of our monarchy, because they do feel almost like you're sort of witnessing a bit of a historical figure. And Donald Trump in particular, this has a big impression on him. He has a sort of, you know, massive deference in part due to his mother towards the British monarchy. But as we saw recently with the visits of the Japanese Prime Minister Sanae Takeichi, you know, he couldn't help himself a cracker joke about Pearl Harbor in his presence. I think in her presence story, I think he will kind of avoid doing anything like that with King Charles, but there is, you know, a lot that we'll be watching. Whereas the Queen had a pretty amazing poker face, and because she only you know, ascended to the throne at twenty five, we didn't know much about her inner thoughts and feelings, whereas with Charles, we've got a lifetime of thoughts, particularly on his strength of feeling towards the environment, something that both in his professional career and as president, Donald Trump has trashed right the way across America.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the other thing Donald Trump has said who knows. Maybe the King privately agrees with him, but he's been quite upfront about he's disdained for Megan Markle and also he's portrayed Harry as someone who is sort of effectively trapped in a marriage, which Big Danny might regret.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I don't think there's going to be any kind of discussion or commentary on that. We did see Harry in Keys the other day and he gave a statement, you know, where he was talking about the need and he was trying to bring attention. Obviously it's slipped down the kind of global agenda given what's going on in Iran and straight to four moods, but he was trying to redraw attention to Ukraine and urging you know, Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, the two presidents, to try and continue their efforts to try and bring an end to this. But you know, perhaps behind closed doors he might say something, but I don't think given how tight lit the King has been on all of this in the last couple of years, I don't think we'll hear anything publicly.
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Speaker 4: We'll give it his health challenges as well over the last year, as fellow subjects of the King. Vincent, We're happy to see that he's up in a bed, on his pegs and getting back to his day job. Always great to catch up with you, mate, and we thank you for that, Vincent. Mech of any UK correspondent mate Robin Clearview points out that the hotel where Donald Trump was the subject of this shooting plot two days ago, it's the same hotel where the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan was made.
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Speaker 1: Only one or two.
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Speaker 4: Speaking of movies, the guy who shot Reagan was addressed with the movie Taxi Driver for a Scorsese film Taxi Driver, and he believed, as a result of the delusions he was suffering, that he had to somehow save Jody Foster, who plays the child prostitute Iris in the film. And to this day, if you interview Jodi Foster, you have to I think you have to actually sign a document promising not to ask her about the Reagan assassination attempt.
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Speaker 1: Let's have a look at the whether we should play a little game of which month am I if I told you the next four days were twenty six and mostly Sonny twenty nine and mostly Sonny twenty eight, partly cloudy and twenty nine and mostly Sonny, what month would you say we're in, I'd say November. Yeah, well we're in late April, and that's the next four days. That said, it changes after that. Have a listened to this Saturday twenty eight one to ten millimeters, Sunday twenty two to fifteen, so that dropped significantly, and then Monday twenty two to fifteen, which is a wide range of potential rain out comes over the weekend into early next week, but all of them feature significant amounts, so potentially some good rain coming our way. Tom Ren's in the five to blaw Breakfast studio thanks to Gladder or garage doors. Over fifty years strong, all colors, all styles, all street appeel gladder dot com.
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Speaker 11: Today you Morning, Ready, Morning morning, David Boys. A little bit happening in the AA world at the moment. So the ARC they're now going to change things so that they can't recall play once it's gone back into play. So this is after the Saint Kild West Coast debacle where thirty five seconds was played and then they said no, no, no, bring it back, and that's what happened with the var in the EPL. I'm sure Crows fans would be hoping they could have done that retrospectively with the ben Keyes point that was given should have been a goal.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is the arc?
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Speaker 4: Is the art?
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Speaker 1: I always think Adelaide raman sent what is it? It's like the video review. Is it an acronym? What is it? If it was being run by inmates at the lab Remarks Center, that would make a lot more sense. It's the video technoin a lot.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, So Greg's one who's the head of the sort of operations that the AFL said that they're going to keep it. You know, it's still got a place, but they're going to scrap that situation where we had in Good West Coast once players restarted that tit.
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Speaker 12: I think it's just to take out the sport.
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Speaker 1: Better because of all this. I don't think so that was a huge technology going. I've got it wrong. Yeah, it's none of the sport is better, and.
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Speaker 4: I think the epls battling with it still all so completely.
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Speaker 1: It's really it is the best thing about the thing so is above every other sport is the elation when a goals kick. It's such a release, it's such a big moment and in the in the EPL. Now they go goals kick, everyone goes to jeer, Well, let's just wait for the video review. Yes, yeah, it's it is killed it Yeah, A lot a lot of fans say they love when the teams are the championship and they obviously prefer to be in the Premier League. But in the championshipre's no video review. Yes, so you just you just enjoyed it. H's the back of the net. The unpied blow is whistle, we go berserve?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: If you look at the sweep of sporting results throughout history, now I know here in in Adelaide Sturton, would people still going about nineteen seventy eight Was that a free?
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Speaker 1: Was it not a free?
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Speaker 4: Nineteen sixty six four to England defeat Germany, and there's still the discussion people have done their PhDs on whether that.
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Speaker 11: That ball across the line hand of God nine and eighty six had of God Nassi but Maridonna.
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Speaker 4: But that same game, I know, you know, involved one of the greatest goals of all time. That's the dominant performance by Argentina. So overall, do people look back at s a NFL football in the seventies and say it was total garbage because it does foster and they could have had all was was England's World Cup.
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Speaker 1: Well, I discredit the problem. It was just the promise of technology was, well, we won't have errors, but the actual reality of it is and maybe one day we'll have AI doing it and we'll have no errors. But right now the reality is you get these ridiculous scenarios whereby we can't abide a Lassu free kick on the wing being wrong. We have a zero tolerance of an error on that, but holding the ball too high, pushing the back, like all these other things. Well, sometimes they're right, sometimes they're wrong, and.
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Speaker 11: And the other thing is the technology is not good enough sometimes as well. And that's the other problem. If you've got to do it, you can't be half pregnant. You've got to go all in. And unfortunately they haven't.
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Speaker 12: We having a shock of the oph Yeah, not great, good on your boys, Adelaide.
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Speaker 1: I was thinking this has been cut badly. It's gonna the chorus is going to lead out before we get to w you have start the show, But no, Paddy had a joke in store. The April sun in Adelaide, four days of it ahead before the rain begins, potentially in a big way over the course of this weekend, which would be.
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Speaker 4: Terrific to tell you what Saturday morning is peak fertilized the lawn time. Apparently there's a thunderstorm scheduled for Saturday afternoon days. It might move around between now and then, but if you're going to go chuck your lawn hub fertilizer on the lawn, then Saturday morning looks like the time folks feels weir.
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Speaker 1: Usually we get to this part of the year and I think people start daydreaming about being somewhere warm. At the moment, you are somewhere warm, but all the same, we'd love to hear from you this morning at eight double two three, double O, DOUBLEO. Have you just been on a cruise? Are you planning on going on a cruise or is there a cruise destination that is on your dream wish list? And the reason we ask a bit is because if you're thinking about it or having just done it that puts you in a category of many Many Australians one point four to five million took an ocean cruise last year. One point four to five million, that's the crazy. The previous record was one point three five in twenty eighteen. There was a nine point five percent jump on the number of people who took a cruise in twenty twenty four. So it's not as saying, oh, well, this is a big number coming off a down period. It has just been booming the cruise business and it look it's going to boom again. I suspect because a lot of people are rethinking holiday destinations given a the price of jet fuel and b the concept of and to fly over the Middle East if you want to go visit rallies or do anything like that in Europe. Peter Williams is the managing director and CEO Phil Hoffman Travel Peter, good morning. You guys are sort of the gateway for a lot of our cruise going enthusiasts here in South Australia. What are the sort of hot spots people like heading off to at the moment.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, morning, will morning Daves. You're right, cruising is really growing quite quickly and if you haven't of those numbers one point four or five million, that means nearly six percent of Ozzie's took a cruise in twenty twenty five, so it's one of the biggest penetration cruise penetration rates in the world. So it's not stopping soon. And looking forward into two twenty seven, we're seeing about a fifteen to ten growth year on years, so there's a huge appetite for it. Look, the biggest what we call fly cruise destinations easily the Mediterranean, So we see a lot of bossies love heading over to the med whether it's for the food, the sun, you know, and those villages, beautiful villages, and I think just enjoyed the laid back lifestyle. But easily the biggest amount of cruising is still what we call ex Australia and New Zealand, with over one point one six million people cruising in twenty twenty five, very.
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Speaker 4: Close to home people with the dramas in the Middle East, has that clearly hasn't stopped travel, but is it discernible yet in terms of has it changed travel or people who might have been thinking about, you know, say this July, you know, jumping on a flight with Emirates or Qatar and going to the south of France or Croatia or something like that. You're now seeing more of a swing away to perhaps Asia Pacific type tourism.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, we certainly saw a flat spot, David for a couple of months, and we're just starting to see a bit of light at the end of the tunnel for European bookings for twenty twenty six. We've got great news just in the last week or so. Emirates are restarting their flights on the first couple of days first of May, initially three days a week and then back to daily service and then Katara following early in June, so that will really boost that. So what we're starting to see is people now to rebook for the second half of the traveling season in Europe, so really from that kind of July onward. But yeah, you'd be right saying, you know, your March to June figures it would be well down and people were looking for other destinations. Canada has been a huge winner there and then as you said, more around the Asia Pacific. But those people that had booked in that early part, when you know, the whole Middle East drama start and a lot of them still went. But what they did is they delayed. They're booking and rather than going with the Middle East carriers, they rebooked on your sitting player, one generations and et cetera. But one of the advanus of cruising is that you move the ships around. Well, yeah, it's a huge moment, so they can get them out of any let's say, troubled waters and move them to where people are prepared to go. And the manage is one that you know, it's always evergreening. People are always geting there.
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Speaker 1: Pa.
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Speaker 4: I remember when we play golf together for the charity day for five double a down at the Bay. You're saying, how your cruise regular you go? I think pretty much every year with them, with some of your some of your friends. Have you got a favorite cruise destination or sort of area.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, again, and I hate to be standing on a track record, but I do love that Mediterranean region personally. You know, it's something that really suits myself and my mates. We will go away as five or six couples and love that. Alaska is probably second to that, absolutely stunning. But you know, there's big ships, there's small ships, there's a cruise for everyone. And I've always said that it's really important to speak to a specialist like us that pull Off in Trauble, or really any qualified travel agent who knows cruising well, because if we put you on the wrong cruise or the wrong ship, you're going to get really annoyed and you're probably going to be put off cruising for the rest of your life. Whereas you know, we can ask for three simple questions and we can match you to exactly your needs. And for example, I'm heading off for work. I'm heading off to the Mediterranean in about six months time on the bigger ship in the world, called the Legend of the Seas. It takes four or five thousand people. Now we know that's not going to suit everyone, but it's like a floating resort, so it's great for families, huge with entertainment. But then two months later I'm going back with a bunch of mates doing a Croatian cruise which only has thirty six people on it. So you know there's something for everyone. This is really what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: You've got a good job, mate. I mean, not many of our listeners, nor indeed us, can say I'm heading off on a cruise to the Mediterranean for a couple's got to do it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, exactly good.
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Speaker 4: Paton Williams, the managing director and CEO who Hop and Travel.
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Speaker 1: Matt on the text on says love cruising doing a return transit landing and Caribbean cruise on the q M two in December January, flying via Hong Kong to get to Southampton. And there's a lot of people doing very creative routes to get to Europe. At the moment, turn and twenty three days to go. Have a good day, well, Matt who's counting two and twenty three days to the cruise of a lifetime. Dion, I get the feeling. Was counting down to running the half marathon this weekend, but the weather report has him a little bit concerned. Dion says, this Sunday morning, starting in town, I'm running the Adelaide half Marathon, the marathon, half marathon and the ten k run sold out months ago. There's going to be thousands of runners in the city. The weather isn't looking good for us. Well, let's find out a bit more about the weather. Ellie Matthews from the Weather Bureau joins us, Well, tailor of two halves of the week, isn't it, Ellie.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, certainly so. I suppose it's the half marathon today or tomorrow or even Friday, you'd be looking at a pretty dry run. We're generally continuing with these dry and above average temperatures in the coming days. So today, whilst we've got a forecast of twenty six degrees for Adelaide, getting up to twenty nine degrees for Wednesday and Friday as well, so warming up quite a bit over the coming days. But once we get to the weekend, we are looking at a system moving through from the west and we'll generally bring a break to this continuing pattern of warm and dry weather that we have been seeing. So there'll be a trough that will move through into Saturday, bringing some showers and possible storms, with then an associated low pressure system to move through waters just to the south of US and generally bring continued showers and storms right the way through the weekend. So does sound like it could be a little bit of a wet and while the half barrison to run on Sunday morning.
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Speaker 4: Certainly does, Ellie. Thank you for that. Elie Matthews from the Bureau of meteorology. All right, time to head to say Paulson.
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Speaker 1: He comes to well. Rebecca Stokes joins us, Rebecca. A food delivery car has been stolen.
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Speaker 4: Yes, so.
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Speaker 15: The first one happened about six point thirty last night. A man was making a delivery on Hanson Road at Manford Part when two people jumped into his unattended toe to Camray and drove off. Pollair was a luckily airborne and spotted the stolen Camray heading east on the Henley Beach Road. The vicka was tracked through the western suburbs before eventually heading up the Southeastern Freeway and getting off at Crafer's. Patrols followed the vehicle into a dead end street at Hills Street at Crafer's West, where the Camry drove into a dam. The passenger fled but was found by police dog Operations Webster, and the driver actually refused to get out of the water, but he was eventually arrested after some vocal encouragement by police dog Enzo and the police negotiators. A twenty one year old man from Sempad Park was the driver and his passengers nineteen years old from murray Bridge. They've both been arrested and charged with numerous offenses including illegal use of a mode of vehicles, speed, dangerous and dangerous driving to escape police to shoot and they'll face court later today. And we still need to toe this car out of the dam, so that will happen a bit later this morning.
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Speaker 4: Well, what a chaotic night that was, Rebecca. Also another stolen car from Underdale, then queshed In or Stavy Bowl.
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Speaker 15: Yes, so this is at two fifteen this morning. A delivery driver parked is Tota Sedan on Hardy's Road at Underdale and a male suspect arm with a knife demanded the keys to the car. The suspects driven off sped away from the scene. Luckily the victim was not physically injured during the incident. But only five minutes later we'll call to North pray Tot Torrensville by reports that a Tota Sedana crashed into a Stoby poll. Now the driver to camp from the car before police arrived. Checks revealed that it was indeed the stolen Toda from Hardy's Road. We're still searching for that driver robbery suspect, but so far it's not being located. So anyone with any CCTV or dash cam to either incident either at under the old Torrens for this morning can contact crime Stoppers on one eight hundred, triple three, triple.
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Speaker 1: Zero and just last through Rebecca. This sounds now see a truck and a motor scooter collided at Croydon Park.
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Speaker 15: Yes, so emergency services responded to this serious crash involving a Suzuki scooter and a truck at the intersection of South Road and Regency Road at Croydon Park. This is a quarter to four this morning. The scooter riders a twenty five year old man. He was really lucky not to get seriously injured when he crashed into this truck. He was taken to hospital by ambulance. His injuries do believe to be non life threatening at this time. His scooter was completely destroyed in the crash, just absolutely split in two and had to be towed from the scene. The truck drivers a thirty one year old man from Injury's Farm. He wasn't physically injured in the crash and there was no damage to his truck and the road was cleared for all traffic by five am after some quick work at the scene. And again anyone who witnessed the crashers. Any dash cam footage can contact crime stoppers on one dight hundred triple three, triple zero.
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Speaker 4: Good stuff Rebecca, thanks for that, Senior Constable Rebecca Stokes from Stapole.
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Speaker 1: Five to seven. Nine petrol stations in South Australia have received fines for failing to comply with real time petrol price monitoring. It's the first time we've seen the consumer apparatus that exists at state and federal level take action against petrol station is an environment of incredible price volatility and of course accusations of gouging. This isn't about price gouging. This is about failing to comply with the expectations regarding petrol monitoring, so declaring what the price is within a reasonable time frame and also declaring whether you have the petrol available or not, which is something that we've just had to become a fay with. These are the offending stations for the April Blitz. That took place. Bulls Garage at Cooper Peedie received two expiations for their price discrepancy on unlettered ninety one and not having diesel available. The cowtexs at Bordertown received two. Notably to regional centers. The United at strath Alban got an expiation, the Ampoule at Renmark United at Bury, the Kurunda Fuel Stop received two for unavailable fuel, the Exconvenience at Goodwood unavailable fuel that they didn't correctly advertise, cowtexs at Parkhole and the Solo Energy Corporation at Edinburgh North. A lot of them are regional, which is interesting because regionals have been the ones that have been hit, really struggling trying to get hold of their usual allotment. Catherine Edgeil is the competition law partner at Mills Oakley and joins us on the line. Catherine, good morning to you.
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Speaker 6: Hello, thank you for having me, Thanks for coming on.
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Speaker 1: Catherine.
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Speaker 4: Now we've all been a little bit suspicious over the last two months since this war in Iran started. That the sort of fog of water is that cliche has been used as a bit of a foil to get away with some silly buggers when it comes to pricing. Do you think those suspicions have been founded.
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Speaker 16: I think they've probably been founded in some isolated cases. And it's a situation that not only is the South Australian government monitoring, but also the federal government has directed the Australian Competition in Consumer Commission to keep an eye on what's happening now, things like fuel availability and changing in prices. The purpose for that is not so much to ensure people aren't misled, but really to ensure that people have the right information or consumers have the right information in order to be able to decide where they want to buy their petrol. And that's obviously war has made that a much more concerning proposition to many consumers.
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Speaker 4: Just in terms of the fines that we'll mention before going to the availability of fuel and not telling people about it. How does that become a consumer cost issue? It's not a cost issue really. It's an availability issue.
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Speaker 1: Isn't it.
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Speaker 16: It's an availability issue, And I think the whole purpose behind that the scheme is really just to make sure that consumers know that, you know, if they're going to drive I don't know, fifty miles or what a fifty kilometers or whatever to a petrol station and they get there and they find that, you know, they've wasted their fuel because there is no diesel were That's the sort of thing that it's designed to prevent, whether or not it is able to prevent that, given that the issues with supply and perhaps the uncertainty of knowing if you're when you're going to get a delivery, if you're a petrol station, it's not an easy issue, I'm sure for them as much as it is for consumers.
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Speaker 1: Catherine. There's a behavior that deeply irritates our listeners and I think a lot of drivers out there, and that is when there is any international disturbance or the kind of thing that might potentially drive up prices in the future. Prices seem to go up overnight, and yet at the same time, when disruption eases, or there's a reduction of the excise or something that should have happened immediately, it seems to bleed through very slowly. Does that behavior in and of itself constitute any sort of breach of consumer law in Australia, Well.
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Speaker 16: You're entitled to price as you wish, but you're not entitled to mislead people about the reasons for it. So unfortunately, just increasing your price and leaving it there because you take the opportunity to do so, isn't of itself an offense. The offense though, that is blaming it on an ongoing international situation or whatever, or fuel exercise when that isn't the cause. That's misleading conduct. And the fines can be a lot greater than the price monitoring fines. If the AGABC wants to take a petrol company to task over that it now has in its weaponry, finds it up to one hundred million dollars per offense.
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Speaker 1: So great explanation, Catherine. We really appreciate your time. Thank you. Catherine Edgiel, competition law partner at Mills Oakley five Double A News is on the way. We're going to talk about the new rules that came into place with regard to phishing species and the impact of the algal bloom. Yesterday, Phil Couriel join us for the Nation Capital and we're going to trial by jury to conduct all in the next hour.
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Speaker 1: Good morning two. If you're joining us for the first time on this Tuesday, the twenty eighth of April, Magnificent morning ahead, Magnificent weather at the moment, kind of weather that you might if you've got a boat, like to get out and do some fishing. Well, there's some new rules in place about what you can catch and were given the impacts of the algal bloom, which, as part of the pleasing component of the state governments briefing yesterday, is that the state's coastline has recorded zero all low levels of krenia, which is great. The problem is the devastation to the fish stocks has been so great that there's some new bands in place. We'll get into that very very shortly. Also, Phil Curry will join us from the Nation's Capital. Phil's been doing the nation leading reporting and all these potential changes that are in the budget with regard to capital gains and negative gearing. He's had the inside word better than anyone and we'll be talking to him about that, and indeed all the other big things that have been covered off in federal politics. We had a trial by jury coming up shortly as well. I'll tell you what, I cannot believe it's thirty years since Port Arthur. After eight o'clock we are going to be talking to one of the journalists who covered the massacre there. But it feels like it was only a few years ago to me. In my mind. I can remember I was at.
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Speaker 4: Work that day the Advertiser, and we used to get all of the news from interstate and overseas on these TILEX machines. And as a cadet, it was your job to get those big spools of really wide people the holes on each end and feed it in. But the white pins that were on little cogs that would keep them going. And I can remember when you describe it with that technology, it suddenly feels like a long time ago. Oh yeah, yeah, But you're right just to think about it doesn't feel like that long ago. No, no, well, it wasn't like you were getting information off the Internet or anything like that. It was still so what did that machine on a day like this, what did that machine print out? As a journal sitting in Canberra or Adelaide, wherever you were, that would say something like Hobart, what is it today? April April twenty eight, ninety ninety six, one fifteen pm, Tasmanian Police have confirmed that gunshots have been heard at the Port Arthur Historic Site, with unconfirmed reports that several people are injured and possibly dead more and it would end with cats more meaning we're on this story, and then another one would come, and another one would come, and people were just running out of that room, going my god, this is terrible. And you know then obviously the political aftermath of it. But I think from memory, John Howard only been Prime Minister for one month. I'm pretty sure we got voted in in March. He was, he'd only been sworn in for about two weeks, and then this almighty national tragedy unfolded and totally changed the political landscape and the way we all live within record time. It was an amazing time. And it wasn't long after the massacre that I went to Canberra myself to do the job of national political correspondent, and I reckon half the stories I wrote for the first year, or about the guns buy back.
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Speaker 1: You're right, so the election was the second of March, So think about that. The second of March doesn't feel that long ago. This year, so a federal election, John Howard defeated Paul keating ninety four seats. He won ninety four seats. Labour won forty nine, so that was a thumping majority, huge win after a long period of Labor rule. And then they almost lost in ninety eight, and then they almost lost an into large part because of what transpired on this day thirty years ago, and you know, it changed politics. We're talking now about how we've now got four one nation MPs, three one nation mlcas in South Australia, and so much of the political infrastructure that helped create one nation came out of shooters who felt that they were being unfairly targeted, and Paul En Hanson at the time turned that into political capital and the National Party suffered a real haircut at the ninety eight election as a result. Political violence very much the subject of discussion in the US at the moment. It's formed quite a remarkable backdrop for our royal visit. The King and Queen have arrived in Washington for a state visit. This is to mark two hudred and fifty years of since US independence, which is sort of a funny thing for the British monarch to turn up to celebrate. But you know, thanks for kicking us out. Time heals all wounds. As they say, here's Rob Jobson. And in the US that's pretty different than the press because you need a bet of binoculars to see them. I mean we're so far back.
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Speaker 13: You've got a poor situation obviously, but you know we'll not really be able to see the public are not gonna be able to see it.
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Speaker 1: I mean they were near. And that's the reality. In overnight called Thomas Allen, the man who is now being charged with trying to assassinate the president, has been charged. He's also received charges regarding firearm offenses for the attempted assassination at the White House correspondence dinner on the weekend. Here is the president's press set, Carolyn Levitt on political violence.
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Speaker 3: While we are.
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Speaker 17: Blessed to have a fearless president, we should not live in a country where such constant fear of political violence permeates our society every single day.
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Speaker 1: It's been a remarkable democracy in the United States, but it's sadly been punctuated by periods of intense political violence, political assassinations.
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Speaker 4: I've lost four presidents. They could have lost more if bullets had moved a few millimeters to the left or right. Trump's now survived three directive hacks. I just I hate the whole I mean this Jimmy Kimmel stuff that I know. The comments that he made in jest were made before the attempted assassination at the White House correspondence and dinner.
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Speaker 1: Well, for those that haven't heard it, here's what he said. Our first lady, Milania is here. Look at more. It's so beautiful, missus Trump. You have a glow like an expectant widow.
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Speaker 4: Like how just what a debased, dehumanized country it's become where people just hate each other so much that that's what passes for comedy. Like I mean, maybe reaching here, the defense for the joke would be, I didn't know that this was going to happ Well, it's already happened twice.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Is the joke that she she wants out of the marriage and that yes, But can you imagine someone saying something like that, Well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you wouldn't. No, you just pull back. Which is why I find it odd that there seems to be some people seem to clamor for a US style politics to exist in Australia, and I think one of the nice things is we have a very distinct culture when it comes to an approach to politics and the degree to which the average person has historically engaged with it. Because do you want import that kind of stuff? But which part of it's funny or entertaining to? You know, like the idea of watching the Jimmy Kimmel Show where all the jokes are going to be anti mega anti republic, Like it's about as illuminating as watching Fox and Friends to get an even take on what's happening, you know on the Democrat side, Like it's just everything so partisan that everyone's got their own little safe space where they can all sit around agreeing with each other. The problem that's hard is that both sides see the other is so reprehensible, so irredeemable, but there's no point pretending they're human. But these people, they're just evil incarnate. And both sides sort of invoke these kinds of manichen almost religious kind of imagery about their political opponents. And when you say it's divisive and it's ripping families apart, it's why. It's because people have been reduced to political opinions as opposed to three dimensional human beings. That's why jokes like that get a big laugh among the intended audience.
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Speaker 4: I'd be equally damning of the sixty Minutes reporter who asked that question of Trump quoting from a manifesto written by a psychotic shooter. This man has written that you're a rapist. She directly asks the President about that. Trump was well with in his rights to reply the way he did where he said you're a horrible person, because really, we've got to the stage in the media where some journeys are so blinded too by their biases, like can you imagine quoting from like Timothy mcveigh's rantings or the unibomber's manifesto, or we're talking today about it being April twenty eight. This is what Martin Bryant said about something. You don't elevate the thoughts of these whack jobs to use Trump's term to being some sort of equal standing. This is what the government said about you, mister Price. Is this it's discussed.
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Speaker 1: This is a frightening you element in the US, though, because this follows the Luigi Mangioni case of killing the head of the health insurance company, and where the subtext to a lot of the commentary is well, they've done a lot wrong.
00:48:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just terrible.
00:48:21
Speaker 1: Here's Carolyn Levitt on those Jimmy Kimmel comments.
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Speaker 17: Just two days prior to the shooting, ABC's late night host Jimmy Cammel disgustingly called First Lady Milania Trump an expectant widow who, in their right minds says a wife would be glowing over the potential murder of her beloved husband. This kind of rhetoric about the President, the First Lady, and his supporters is completely deranged.
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Speaker 1: So that's what's happening in the US overnight, bringing up to speed with charges being laid and the ongoing debate that's going on there. Back here in Adelaide, we want to do a little bit more work on something of the police just told us about before seven o'clock around Crapers where a food delivery car was stolen. Hayden Nelson for seven years, is that Crafer's West covering this story? So, Hayden, what have you been able to glean what transpired here?
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Speaker 18: Yeah, morning, guys. Well as a former pizza delivery driver myself. This is your worst nightmare. But there's a delivery being made on Hanson Road, Mansfield Park about six point thirty last night. At some stage and the course of that happening, the Toyota Camray was left unattended. A twenty one year old and a nineteen year old have jumped behind the wheel and have taken that car. That is what police are alleging. They've taken it on a joy ride through the streets all the way up to the freeway where they've been pursued by police. Now police have tracked the vehicle through Crafers West. The Star Group have been brought in as well as a police dog Webster. The car has then come to Hill Road, which is a dead end, so we know sort of off that Crazy's west turn off. As you're heading up towards bell Air, there's a there's a lot of these backstreets. This is one of those which ends on a private property. Nonetheless, they have continued on and that's where this pair has come unstuck, driving into a dam. For police, that has created quite a difficult situation because that then, despite the car submerging, refused to get out of the car, so negotiators have been brought in to help coax the nineteen year old and twenty one year old out of the vehicle. They eventually have. They were arrested at the dam, brought up the hill into a cage car. They were shouting some expleaders. We can hear them in our vision from the cage car saying I'm sorry before they were arrested. But yeah, they did have the tires of this vehicle at one point were stopped by police. They put the tie treads out, So yeah, quite quite a scene here last night for police and a huge effort from them to bring it under control, particularly just on the freeway.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Hayden, Hayden Elson for seven years. That's a dramatic story. We'll find out more about that by watching Hayden's report tonight from six o'clock on Channel seven. One thing Donald Trump has posted in the last few hours has got us thinking here in South Australia with regard to the renaming of his much maligned Immigration and Customs Enforcement mob ICE. Someone suggested and poster that sent this to him saying they should be renamed to the National Immigration Customs Enforcement. So there acronym becomes nice, in which case the media has to say nice agents each and every day. Donald Trump thought that was very funny. Got us thinking, though, what in Australia name needs a name change to make it a bit more accurate, or maybe to change perception. I think the Electoral Commission's right for the picking here in South Australia. I can't work out what the example is yet x I'm not sure what it becomes someone. I mean off the common one is the AFL becomes the AWFL to be awful, awful, awful represent some of the decision making it's gone in the last twelve weeks. What needs a name change? I reckon the ATO could do with a bit of yea. Hear the words ato and it's terrifying. It Never that doesn't engender a sense of you know, this is going to be fun. How do you soften the we're going to we're taking y hard earned money to spend on.
00:52:27
Speaker 4: Wouldn't you try to bill it as like the service delivery system units to say yeah, the service delivery yes to you. Yeah, We're here to help by taking your money and giving it to everybody else. And the trade off is we have a relatively civil society where people aren't dying in the streets because we've got a properly funded, universally available healthcare system.
00:52:45
Speaker 1: The government Help Department, Government Help, the help Department. We're from the ATO. We're here to help. You've got a new notification in your help department inbox. Still the worst email you can ever receive in life. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and rename something for us folks. We're we're going to take this nice idea and apply it to Australia. Eight double two three double o DOUBLEO. What needs a name change? You can text us too on zero before eight zero eight thirty ninety five.
00:53:11
Speaker 2: Knockdown Bill two with metro homes, move into one and keep the other as an investment. Metro homes.
00:53:18
Speaker 1: They do it all for you.
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Speaker 3: Deep in Penberthe and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 1: Twenty five minutes after seven, A few texts coming in with people coming up some very creative name changes, inspired by Donald Trump wondering aloud whether I should be renamed nice on the text line, I can't read that one out About adding France to Orcus, I didn't see that one right. The new acronym he just put the letter f in front of Orcas.
00:53:56
Speaker 4: That's quite spectacular. I like the one from Kevin in Port. Broughton says the ATO should be renamed the Home the Homeland Income Enforcement from the acronym which is FIEF. Quite a few people saying the Bureau of Meteorology needs a bit of a bike over. Ah, some good ones coming through for the bureau. We'll get to those who be careful because last time they decided to give their website a makeover, it costs us all about one billion dollars.
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Speaker 1: That's right. These people can't be trusted, all right. Let's we'll get to some of that because of some great calls coming in. I can see as well at the moment, so we'll revisit that in just a moment. Yesterday there was a big update with regard to the algall bloom and its impact on fish stocks on South Australian coastlines. The good news is this a lot of the coastline now has readings of zero all really low levels of Karnia algae. So that's fantastic news. And anyone who's been in a metro beach recently will attest to this. It doesn't it feels like a pre algal bloom sort of era. At the moment, however, the devastation to spit to fish species has gone on under the ocean surface. So from May one there will be a total closure on southern Calamari fishing across Golf Sint Vincent and the Spencer Golf recreational and charter closure for garfish we implemented in Golf Saint Vincent where there is already a commercial ban in place. Kyrie Tomasos is the executive of the Seafood Industry Essay and joins us now, Kyrie, good morning to.
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Speaker 19: You, Good morning, good morning.
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Speaker 4: So coy, what do you make of these bands? Do you think that they're justified? And do you do you accept the sort of reassurances from Professor Steer that calamari as a fast growing species it should bounce back pretty quickly anyway.
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Speaker 19: Yeah, absolutely, we support the closures because none of these decisions are made without science base and we've been working together with government to do a lot of monitoring over the last few months. And the decisions are really welcome because they will fast strack the recovery of the stocks.
00:55:53
Speaker 4: And what about what about the garfish closure as well? I didn't know garfish had been that affected by the bloome. I thought it was, you know, more the deeper living fish, but I guess you know, there's such a special food item that we want to do everything we can to keep them safe too.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 19: Absolutely, And I think Golfs and Vincent in particular most spieces were affected quite considerably and hence the reason why commercial fishing is stopped in Golfs and Vincent. But obviously there's been some very positive news with the blue swimmer crab and that is going to open, which really brings the opportunity for people to enjoy that as the local produce.
00:56:43
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And to what the Premier said yesterday about the bloom now recording zero or low levels, only low levels in some isolated places of the Kernia algae, is that what you're hearing as well?
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Speaker 19: Absolutely, especially the metropolitan beaches, ELFs and Vincent. We're seeing our strong recovery. Obviously there's still some areas that we are still seeing the album bloom, but overall it is a marked difference and an improvement to what we were used to.
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Speaker 4: Character Matos, the executive of Seafood Industry, say thanks for joining us.
00:57:17
Speaker 1: Alfin Broadview has got a name change for us ALF good morning.
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Speaker 18: Yeah, hi guys, I want to change the bomb the Bureau of Meteorology to the Bond because somebody certainly must have been on something when they come.
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Speaker 8: Up with that website.
00:57:30
Speaker 1: Thank you for that. The bomb becomes the Bond. Why not a few techts, A lot of good suggestions coming through.
00:57:39
Speaker 4: Yes, Jane in Nords is the atrible c could be renamed the Mirror Department because they're always looking into things that seems to be the extent of their endeavors.
00:57:50
Speaker 1: Thank you for that, Jane zero eight thirty ninety five of colors and eight double two three double o double Andrew says the airport. It's called Terminal one at the airport, but the fact there is no terminal too is that true?
00:58:02
Speaker 4: I will as there's no parking in the red zone.
00:58:04
Speaker 1: There's no parking in the red zone.
00:58:07
Speaker 2: Knockdown bill two with metro homes, move into one and keep the other as an investment. Metro homes.
00:58:14
Speaker 3: They do it all for you. Deep and pen Burthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
00:58:21
Speaker 1: Twenty one minutes to wait dra By jury coming up before eight o'clock this morning and then after eight we're going to reflect on what's happening in Tasmania today, thirty years since the Port Arthur massacre. Our guest will be a journalist who is there. Newspaper and TV journalist Mark Thomas saw him to an extraordinary interview in the last twenty four hours on Sky regarding his recollections of the time and heading towards that job that he didn't know would end up being one of them Boies influential and consequential news stories in Australian history. As looking forward him coming on the program after eight o'clock this morning. Eight double two three double o double. I was out abye textus on zero four eight zero wait thirty ninety five or some reaction to the fishing bands regarding kalamari and garfish. Someone him makes the point the problem is Snapper started as a short band and it's been seven years now.
00:59:15
Speaker 4: That is true.
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Speaker 1: So it was a mixed bag of It was a mixed bag of data that came out from the state government yesterday, some good news regarding the occurrence of a quareneaus and bad news regarding the population of fish stocks. But I can't I mean think about the most iconic things you can fish for in South Australia. How many of them right now are banned? Snapper, garfish, kalamari. It's a lot, it's a lot of It's a lot of iconic things that get people going to regional centers and going out fishing and doing all the wonderful things we associate with standing on jetties and some of our really lovely regional towns, I'd said to Canberra. Phil Curry, the political editor of The finn Review, joins us Phil good Morning that morning.
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Speaker 4: Phil will was making the good point earlier about how you've been immersed for the last few week in getting to the bottom of what the likely sort of capital gains tax changes are and what else is on the table with the budget. Well and truly on the horizon.
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Speaker 1: Now what what are you? What are you? What sort of shape you think it's taking.
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Speaker 20: Well, they keep sort of changing the capital gains, but I think we've written over the last six weeks about every possible option because yeah, this is what they're going to do, and then they change their mind.
01:00:25
Speaker 1: But from what we what we can.
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Speaker 20: Sort of probably safely say at this stage is that they will be scrapping. Like I say, if you've got an investment field for more than twelve months. Under the current rule the ones existed since ninety nine, if you sell it, you get a fifty percent discount on the capital game.
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Speaker 21: No longer.
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Speaker 20: Regardless, they're going to go back to the pre ninety nine system, the one that Paul Keating introduced, where the deduction the capital gains deduction based on inflation. So you're basically you deduct you deduct from your capital gain what inflation has been over the.
01:00:59
Speaker 8: Life of the asset.
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Speaker 20: You pay tax on an arrest. That's a sort of general way of describing it. So it's sort of a bit of swings in aroundabout Sometimes it might be more generous, over in general it's less generous, so that there'll be some sort of saving. It's more complicated to work out. But what we can also say to it won't just be they won't just make that change for housing, and it'll be on all assets such as shares, you know it, works of art or whatever, any other investments. So there's going to be controversy there, especially with the non residential property like farms and startups and small businesses. There's going to be blown back on that.
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Speaker 13: So that's sort of where up to.
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Speaker 20: What we can't get clarity on is whether the changes will be retrospective, whether you know, because when John how changed the ruined ninety ninety nine and brought in the fifty percent, if you had an asset you had before that, then that would be so big to the old the old scheme, and so it's unclear whether they're going to sort of try and make this retrospective in a fight in some way to assets. So I just sort of hold our flight or budget.
01:01:58
Speaker 4: Night on that.
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Speaker 20: But they definitely look for money, you know, I think I think more generally, Dave is, you know, the government's got to the point where it's spent so much money it's now looking for revenue to try and cover all this spending. So they're going after increasing taxes, ere changing taxes there, and putting the sort of gloss on it's all of that inter generational fairness. So that's that's sort of where up to at the moment. I mean, we saw last week they finally did what it needed to be done on the Endy Is, so you know, you get to give them credit for that for putting the bri into that thing, because that was just completely unsustainable and so much money as being roordered and wasted in it. But now we're sort of back to talking about taxes again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just on capital gains field, you mentioned it would be applied the changes we applied across all asset classes. Internally, what are the governments saying about the reasons behind that beyond you know, simplifying the system because some people, some people might bind are about if it's about intergenerational inequality, if the playing field's totally leveled between say safe shares and housing, well then it might not lead people to abandoned housing in his investment vehicle, and therefore it might not have the downward impact on housing prices you might imagine.
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Speaker 20: Yeah, that's right, And I just saw the Assistant Treasurer Daniel Molino got asked on Sky News and it was that good question because a lot of young people put their money into stock market they can't afford houses. And one way you can get a housing deposit or established wealth outside of property is using shares. So if you if you pin that, if you pair that back in the same way as you do housing, that's exactly right. And that's you know, that's not clear the you know, we're at the start of this process. For example, they looked at the fifty deduction and just reducing that to thirty three percent and just for housing, right so, and that's a cleaner way of doing it. But for whatever reason they've decided not to go down that part. I think they're probably scared of having a fight with the property industry. You know, the government took timid You noticed last week the Prime Minister sort of put any thought of a gas tax to the sword because now it's not gonna be time of picking fire with that sector when you're when you're sort of you know, catching petrol of all these training partnersh you know, they're anticipating a pretty big blue with on the NDU S. There's all these sort of people start narrow casting agreements on that and sort of this is the least hostile when you do this on property. The property sector said on the weekend, and we can live with that. Going back to the on inflation, wy don't we don't have a problem with that. It's not much of a change, but it's a good point. Will It becomes hard to sort of make into generational argument when you're just sort of treating everything and not really changing the materially. Again, I just cant but yeah, they might use whatever revenue they make, just sort of a puff up at five dollars a week tax cut. We're all going to get on the genitoy one.
01:04:53
Speaker 1: What about negative gearing? Feel any developments on that front, because.
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Speaker 20: Look again it's again it's highly speculated, so you know, don't take to the bank. But if you have sort of tell demand and answer me today, I think what they might be doing on that is back to where what labor tried to do in twenty nine and twenty sixteen, And that means if you have a negatively geared property, you're fine. It won't affect any existing negatively geared assets. But after the change comes into effect, you'll learn about to negatively gear new homes if you buy. If you buy a property of a negatively earing it have to be a new build, but not not an existing Now that's what I'm hearing. But again, you know, don't rush out in the panic based on what I've just said, please, because that might change again and it may not be locked in. Negative hearing is a bit diceyot politically because Alban easy explicitly promised not to touch it before the election. They were very they were very shifty on capital gains. They had a cabinet meeting sometime last term. But don't don't put a fall for this bruise that this is just something they've pulled out of the air. They'll be wanting to go after capital gains rags And they had a capital They had a cabinet meeting class term where it was basically said, no one ruled out capital games before the election, and you won't find it quoth of any minutester capital games for the election, because I've been want to do this for a long time. Whereas they were more emphatic on negnique hearing so well the government's broken promises in the past. You know, the last term it went after superannuation and it changed the states be tax cut and they were both pretty big broken promises. So I've sort of got away that they're probably feeling that you get away with it again, and they just pressed it up in the intergenerational space. You know, someone said to me, the best way to look after the future generations not to give my trillion dollars in debt, you know, you know, there's probably, you know, something we need to focus on as much as the twigaging tax roads.
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Speaker 4: Great stuff as always Phil phil Coury, the national political editor for the Australian Financial Review.
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Speaker 1: It's thirty minutes to wait. We might quickly check traffic and we're going to come up with We come back with a trial by jury in just a moment that will be showdown related. We're going to tackle one of the thought bubbles that's been knocking around Australian football circles. With the jury verdict on the.
01:07:04
Speaker 2: Other side of this knockdown, build two with metro homes, move into one and keep the other as an investment.
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Speaker 3: Metro Homes.
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Speaker 9: They do it all for you.
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Speaker 3: Deem Vik pen berthe and Wild Goodings five Double a Breakfast.
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Speaker 1: Nine to eight. It's a wild idea that got raised during gather around. It's gained traction in Victoria. The prospect of a showdown. We've got one on Friday night. How long have we fought to have a showdown played in primetime? And even then the app will put another game on at the same time as well. But anyway, baby steps for the showdown.
01:07:38
Speaker 4: That's it.
01:07:38
Speaker 1: Everyone appreciates his suspective, but it's one of the great rivalries in Australian sport and there is a desire I think from people who know football in South Australian Victoria and elsewhere that it deserves. It deserves premacy. It should be on Friday nights, it should be on Thursday night. Should be something that everyone gets to see. There is a wild idea that's been postulated by some in the Victorian media that should be played as perhaps a one off at the mcg an EBCG Showdown. I'd tell you I reckon it would sell out. A good idea or madness eight double two to three double double jury assemble, someone's winning hundreds worth of semtas seafood. Do you think there is merit in this idea or madness?
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Speaker 4: Well, the principle is the showdown is the local derby, so it has to be local. Well, you could say the same thing about the state of origin football in the NRL Queensland for New South Wales that's been on the road now for more than a decade. They've played them in Perth, they've played them here in Adelaide, they've played them in Melbourne many times. The argument goes that it's a clash that is so intense that it's a huge advertisement for the game. The same could be said of the showdown. You know that's so often and we all know the old saying form counts for nothing in showdowns. So many showdowns have just been like beyond awesome. And you know, I've got mates in Victoria and New South Wales and Canberra who with our little WhatsApp footy chats so often I reckon every year I get messages from going I just want to go to a showdown one day. There's such good games.
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Speaker 1: It would democratize the showdown, but if you take it out of the city it divides. Is it the same spectacle?
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Speaker 4: People on li w incomes are going to be right to go. I've now I got to fly to Melbourne and go to the shadown and make it, make it exclusive. Two tanks of petrol? What's that going to cost me to get?
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Speaker 1: You might be cheaper to fly eight double two three double o double one hundred dollars with the semptas seafood for someone who's on the jury. Is their merit in an MCG showdown or is this concept simply madness? Let's go to during number one, what say you, I reckon.
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Speaker 22: It's the reverse what the premier don't see bringing sport there is and they they've taken us to go are there.
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Speaker 13: To make money?
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Speaker 1: So what's your verdict? Durring number one, I hope not no madness, Thank you for that. During number two, good morning, good.
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Speaker 22: Morning, definitely not showdown should be played on Anzac day at Adelaide, oble alternating between the clubs.
01:10:21
Speaker 1: As ownt Thank you Joan. That has an interesting idea as well. During number two, thank you. During number three, good.
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Speaker 16: Morning, good morning, absolute madness, hands off Victoria, no.
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Speaker 1: Madness, thank you your number three? What I mean ones? If they they got off at a fund our health department for a year or so, I'd like to start talking. Then you're number four, Good morning, absolute madness, Bijoin, you don't care man, that should be lucky.
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Speaker 16: If two half as thady, what a load of crappy the hell thought of this one?
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Speaker 1: Thank you you're number four, you're a number five, good morning.
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Speaker 19: I think it's a fantastic idea.
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Speaker 22: Only if they bring the Battle of the Q.
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Speaker 19: Clash down to Adelaide. I reckon, it's a fantastic great idea.
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Speaker 4: Only if they do that, you might get more people at the qu class in Adelaide than you do in Queensland. I reckon, I knew who that one was.
01:11:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we might. Raymond on the text line says madness it wouldn't sell in Victoria. I think it would.
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Speaker 4: I don't think you get a sellout. I reckon, you get at least eighty five.
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Speaker 1: You don't get him because you don't sell out Collingwood if it's not Anzac Day doesn't necessarily sell out. So but I think you get a decent crowd, and there is that. They have the luxury because they've got the MCG and Victoria of a culture where you can say it's a good game of footy on it the G tonight should we go? Yeah, we just don't have that luxury in in Southustralia. It's too how to get a ticket?
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Speaker 4: Well, don't you think the biggest stumbling bock to this might be well, it's either going to be a Crow's home game or a port home game. Which club is going to sell it? Or rather which club is going to give up all that income? Because it's you're only doing it because you're receiving a lot of income. No one's doing it at a loss. Well, yeah, it would be predicated on make sure though.
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Speaker 1: That's right. Well, but I think the model we'd be talking about, if even to seriously, would be the government chips in. The Victorian government pays for the event.
01:12:23
Speaker 4: Well, actually that might work.
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Speaker 1: They pay for anything, and they and look, you can make up any stupid number and they'll say, yep, when your child's born in Victoria, to give you a free fishing rod, we want a trillion dollars for it, all right, okay, al right, that sounds reasonable. They might.
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Speaker 4: They might try to do it as like there's some sort of belt and road initiative too. Oh you think maybe you could be well, cause he's got the contacts up north exactly right.
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Speaker 1: Might have been playing the long game. I think that's a big madness. The verdict from the jurors. Who wins the hundred dollars with a samtasi food, Let's give it to during number three, during number three, one hundred dollars of semitas seafood. He's a novel concept. Somebody has said, no way, unless we trade it for the formula one. Would you do that deal? What happen. Would you do that deal? We've already got the motorcycles, let's have the cars. Well, yeah, the contract's got a little bit longer to run.
01:13:16
Speaker 4: Bring it all back.
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Speaker 3: Why not?
01:13:21
Speaker 16: Absolute madness, hands off.
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Speaker 2: Victorious knockdown, build two with metro homes, move into one and keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes.
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Speaker 3: They do it all for you. Deep and pen Berthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
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Speaker 1: Seven minutes after ray, beautiful morning outside and adelaid four consecutive days of spectacular weather on the way. We're getting some very crawdy ideas about how the showdown might be used as a bargaining chip with Victoria on the text line, which is sort of an unintended consequence of our jury that we just conducted a short time ago. Jeff says we could trade Showdown for Zach Butter's in Formula one. Thank you, And someone else suggested they're all for the idea of the MCG showdown. If it means three showdowns, which we probably should have seen that coming, that's an excellent idea. Well, that is the state of origin model, isn't it. Well? I think what could three games? And it's only that we're not getting an extra home game, so what would be the Coxactly, there's no sort of you know, you can't take it off one and not the other, that's right, So you know we're not shooting the integrity of the AFL fixture. I think it will happen. I reckon it will definitely happen at some point. Yeah, I'm not convinced. We'll see. Well, they're feedback from our lives. There's a bit of momentum for it, that's for sure. Just before eight thirty this morning, it's thirty years since port Arthur will be chatting with the former newspaper and TV journalist Mark Thomas, who was there. I've heard him interviewed on the subject previously and if it is something that is if interest to you, it's certainly a huge part of the last thirty years of history in this country. We will You're not going to want to miss Mark, who's about ten minutes away.
01:15:04
Speaker 4: Breaking at eight.
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Speaker 1: We'll hit the fuck. We love this story.
01:15:09
Speaker 4: We love good news stories and they don't get any better than this because it's about something which, for some weird reason, culturally in Australia we seem to have an aversion or a reluctance perhaps more accurately to discussing the idea of philanthropy.
01:15:23
Speaker 1: It's seen as kind of.
01:15:24
Speaker 4: Showy or big noting, but when you think about how many community organizations, how much medical research, so many important things are underpinned by the act of giving. And we're not talking here necessarily about multimillionaires, but just sort of crafting your income in a way with a view to helping out.
01:15:41
Speaker 1: Well, how's this.
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Speaker 4: South Australia is about to become the first state to have what is going to be known as a Giving Week, running from May four to eight. It's a landmark statewide initiative which is set to help everyday Australians discover the joys of giving and crucially to work out that they've got a little or a lot how to give where it matters most. It's the brainchild of our guest Kay Burton, who we have in the studio this morning.
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Speaker 1: Kay, so nice to see you here.
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Speaker 4: Likewise, they always have catching up. We've spoken a few times on and off over the last couple of years about how philanthropy doesn't have the sort of elevated prominence in Australia that it does, say in a country like your homeland, the US does it.
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Speaker 21: And I think I've been here for sixteen years now, so I like to say I do sound Americans too, but I have inherited the values. We're just so humble, you know, and we just don't talk about enough. You look around the streets and you hear about all these incredible organizations that are doing remarkable work and the people that are actually giving, and we just don't talk about it. And so we've always thought, well, you know, how do we encourage more people to get into giving it, into philanthropy to actually, you know, make sure that the money gets to the people that need most. And we said, well, what if we put it on a platform, and we said, let's give you a week you know where we actually celebrate it. So that's kind of where the idea came from.
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Speaker 4: And you've got some big names getting behind it, to former governors in Kevin Scarse and he Van Lee.
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Speaker 21: You've got some the current current governor is also going to host the reception the launch at Government House, so she's been a wonderful advocate.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So one of the big events too, is on the Friday. So you've got the guy who founded Intrepid Travel. It made a crazy amount of money, but you just got to this point where he said, you know, you can't take it with you. I'm actually going to take this money and use it for good. How does somebody like that sort of manage that process and how do you use his example at the more sort of mum and dad suburban level for people he might have a few grand squareled away and think well maybe I could do something here himself.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 21: Absolutely, So the idea was to have a week in which we could have a series of events across the week, and they are catered for every single type of giver, so volunteers all the way up to the people that are structured giving, so that we've actually got sixteen events already. So we've pulled this together quite quickly. We've got sixteen events. They're open to the public and they're completely free to attend, so anyone's stay can come along that's interested, and the idea is to inspire and educate people to get back. So that lunch that we're having with Darrel Wade on the Friday is the sort of we're going to cap the week off, and he's got an incredible story and you can come in here and listen along. But you know he started as a backpacker. Yeah, so you know he was a backpacker who've ended up founding in Trepid Travel. And it's often the case that people who have lived, experience and travel and see the world and realize how bloody lucky we are in this country come back and say, oh, I've got to do something about this, and I've got to get back. So he's gone on to have an incredible career and not only giving personally, but you know also through in Trepid Travel, but throughout the week we've got incredible international national speakers that are going to tell stories just like his.
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Speaker 1: It sounds like, in reading what you guys have put out about this, there's two components to not they're not barriers, but they're impediments to giving in south the strike at the moment, and you've identified one there about natural humble nature. People don't want to sort of look at me sort of thing. But the other things you're trying to do is create pathways by which you'd sort of normalize these sort of least structure it in a way. It sounds as though immature might not be the right word. But do we not have well developed ways that if people have the intention of giving, they just don't even know where to start the process.
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Speaker 12: We'll put it this way.
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Speaker 21: All the infrastructure is there. We have incredible organizations right that can actually help people along their journeys, advisors, lawyers, film, tropic organizations. People often just don't know where to start. Yeah, and that is the number one thing I get asked all the time. So last year I counted I had three hundred and fifty coffees with people from all South Australians from walks of life, corporates, volunteers, etc. And they're like, look, we want to give back, we just don't know where to start. Because philanthropy and giving is one of those sort of you know, big words that people kind of get a bit intimidated about and they think, well, I just I just don't I don't know where to start, so I'm not going to get involved. So what we're saying through this week is we'll come in the door, we'll show you, we'll provide those pathways. We can educate you on the different ways that you can give back, everything from volunteering all the way up to having those conversations with you advisors is wide range is a.
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Speaker 1: Byproduct of that that historically donations have gone to a narrow field of recipients, and in fact there's probably a far broader group of places that you would survive on philanthropy that just haven't because they're just not in the public consciousness necessarily.
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Speaker 21: Sure, So to put in perspective, we have in South Australia on so let's just say nationally there are over sixty thousand charities, right, that's a big cast net. South Australia, we've got thirty five hundred, right, and those are the registered charities. So you imagine when it comes to tax time and people are looking to donate, they just don't know where their money is going to go. They just don't know who's out there, et cetera. So we're trying to make it easier to direct people to those. But the reality of it is, I think it's like a number that eighty percent of the funding goes to about the top ten percent of charities, right, So you've got all these wonderful and very effective small to medium sized charities, especially in South Australia that are delivering meals. You know that are sort of packing up kits from mums in the hospitals, et cetera. And they're struggling right now, you know, and they do or they don't get government funding, so they rely on sort of the generous nature of South Australia. So that's where we're trying through this week to kind of highlight and amplify those voices and say, look, look in your local communities and see how you can give that.
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Speaker 1: Is there a sort of matchmaker element to this as well? Where we have you're in those coffees, you having conversations about the sorts of people imagine what they might have an idea of I'd like to support this kind of thing. Does that even exist here? And that's where you guys come in.
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Speaker 21: Absolutely, And so it's funny you say that. So last year what I did is I launched a platform called give Essay and it was the result of all these coffees I was having because people were coming to me and saying, you know, I'm interested in the arts, I'm interested in education or indigenous and I'm like, well, what would happen if we could create a system where we could actually anyone, any charity in South Australia who had a project that needed fundy for could post it for free, almost like Seek for philanthropy.
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Speaker 12: So I've created that.
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Speaker 21: It's called give Essay, so you can actually go on for free and browse and see whatever projects are out there. So I am calling myself a charitable matchmaker.
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Speaker 4: And K two. Obviously we're a unique point in history where the most affluent generation that has ever lived is you know, not long for this world, the baby boomers. Jeez, my parents aren't listening while I say that, but you know, Mum and Dad love you to bits, but the reality is that the post war kids aren't going to live forever. So in SA our split of what's been described as the intergenerational wealth trands, so it's about one hundred and ten billions. There's so much money because for the bequest sort of angle to this often does come when people do pass.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, doesn't it?
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Speaker 21: And five point four trillion across Australia huge moment. We're never going to see anything like this in Australia or South Australia. And so if you're thinking about it, if we could even tap into one percent of that, imagine the impact that could have for the charitable sector here, and so that's why I think, you know, this education piece about you know, inspiring people to give back in any way, shape or form and whatever you know works best for you and your family is important. It's also about it inspiring the next generation. You know, we've got you know, Julian and I have five kids, and it's important to us to kind of role model to them the importance of helping others and giving back, and hopefully others in the community see this opportunity as well, you know, and how do we set up our kids and future generations to get back and so hopefully, you know, if people are listening and driving along and they're thinking giving week and they just hear the word giving, it's going to start sort of getting the bales turney in their head and saying what.
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Speaker 3: Do we do?
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Speaker 4: It's a really excellent initiative, MK, and it's a credit to you and the people around your Nigellian's involved as well, that you are getting stuck in to elevate this. Hopefully it gets a lot of other media coverage in the becoming days and weeks and isn't just a one off as well. But for now, okay, thank you so much for coming in and all the very best for giving week next week.
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Speaker 21: And I will say one other thing, this was a total you know, for anything to work in South Australia, it has to be a collaborative effort and this wouldn't have worked without all the film thropic support that we've received, you know, from the generous founders that have actually made this possible, as well as founding supporters and the organizations that have put it on. So I'd like to say thank you to them as well.
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Speaker 1: Awesome good on you k thank.
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Speaker 1: Today's the twenty eighth of April twenty twenty six. It was on this day thirty years ago that one of the most awful incidents in Australian history took place at a historic site in Tasmania. It came to be known as the Port Arthur Massacre. And our next guest, Mark Thomas, was working as a journalist for WIN Television at the time, and over the course of this week has told his story about a day that certainly he and the nation would never forget. Mark Thomas, good morning to you, Good morning, thank you for coming on. Mark.
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Speaker 4: So, thinking back to that day three decades ago, how did the story begin? How did at first unfold? In terms of your involvement, it.
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Speaker 23: Started we were sitting around the newsroom at wind Televisions talking about what we were doing on the day, and our new secretary came across to a sort of little group meeting to say that she'd been listening to the police scanner. And so we'd have to remember three decades ago, we didn't there weren't mobile phones, as in our office didn't have any mobile phones. But we listened to the police scanner and she said that there'd been shotsight at Port Arthur and there were suspected debts that there were casualties. So myself and a cameraman jumped into two old s Falken station wagons and drove down towards Port Arthur. And it's quite a narrow road the other highway down there, and we were traveling at a round the speed limit, which was one hundred kilometers an hour, and a police car came past me like I was standing still and I thought this is very serious. So I sped up after the police car, thinking I'm okay to keep up with the police car. But I couldn't drive as fast as that car was going, so I dialed it back and got to the roadblock at Taranta and I was the first. We were the first team to get to the Tarana roadblock and to watch the s o G, the Special Operations Group police officers, and they were just police everywhere going further because we were outside of Port Arthur. They'd set the perimeter up outside that and we waited and filmed a lot of things and then trying to get information, which was which was very difficult. There was one ABC A reporter who did have a mobile phone and she was standing on her on the top of her car trying to get coverage. She actually ended up calling the calling the Seascape, which was where Martin Bryant made his last stand, so to speak, and was captured after that.
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Speaker 4: So when you arrived there, Mark, had the shootings ended or was it still an active shooter type crime scene.
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Speaker 23: We think at the time that probably the shootings at Port Arthur had finished. But again, as I said, we just didn't know. We were completely in the dark as to what was going on because at the time, as you can imagine, the police weren't overly keen on giving us giving us updates because they were doing what they were doing to get into the to get into the scene and deal with what had been left behind.
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Speaker 4: The scale of it, though, remains to this day so hard to comrade, doesn't it?
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Speaker 23: Well it does. I mean, I still I went back and did a story where I put to air that there had been twelve people, which in actual fact there were thirty five people killed. So I was feeling pretty pretty ordinary about the story that I wrote the next day and put to her the next day. But you know, my colleague said, well, no one knew, so that was okay, And it was really it was an incredible time because that as one can imagine, that this had never happened before in Australia, and certainly not being critical of anybody involved, and I always I've reflected this week on you know, who do we think of? And I just think of the people who were on site and dealt with what had to be what had to be dealt with. I was in the years afterwards, I became friends and worked with a man by the name of Bitery Croswell, who was at the time was the head of Camp Quality, which was a cancer organization down here which looked after kids. And he was in the Broad Arrow Cafe when Martin Brand up and started killing people. And he was with two volunteers, two older volunteers, And when Martin Bryant stood up and started shooting, he threw the volunteers onto the floor and dove on top of their bodies and shielded them with his own body, and Martin Bryant walked out of the top of him and shot him and walked out the door. Peter was injured, but he wasn't obviously wasn't killed, and we became friends and colleagues later. But it and though there were just those stories which which were everywhere, which was so frightening, I suppose, and also was four years later, you found people that had been affected by this tragedy.
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Speaker 1: I think I heard an interview earlier in the week Mark you made the point about journalists being among many that were quite traumatized by what they saw there, because it was quite a unique tour of the site that the press were led on in the end aftermath on the.
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Speaker 23: Tuesday after the On the Sunday, they organized a press tour, media tour and they put about twenty five journals onto the bus and took them down to the took them down to the site which was still an active crime scene. All the bodies were covered and each body had an officer the side at twenty four to seven to protect it from any passing wildlife. But they were toured around the site to see the bodies as they lay, which included the broad Hour cafe where I believe twelve people were first shot. It was just it was just extraordinary and people were affected and still out of this day.
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Speaker 4: Are you still in kazimk I am.
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Speaker 23: I work in Hobart. It's sam Hobart today, it's a beautiful day in Hobart, which is every day it's a beautiful day in Hobart. But yes, I still work and a median communications business now. But it's still one of those one of those things that I often say that a lot of Tasmanians would prefer that we didn't talk about it, But I think on significant anniversaries like today the thirtieth anniversary, that we recall. I think the bravery of the people who were on site and recall the people who lost their lives that day.
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Speaker 4: Mark Thomas, who's working for WIN Television at the time in Hobart, still in Hobart, Mark, thank you so much for joining us on a day we wish we were able to forget. But in memory of those thirty five people, some of them kids is what primary school age and people who are just starting out to enjoy their time. Just terrible atrocity, something that changed Australia forever.
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Speaker 1: Nine minutes to nine very short. We've be chatting with doctor Magda Holt from the Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, who raised some concerns about the proposed design of the new Women's and Children's hospitals. It relates to women who present regarding concerns about how their health is before birth that can be emergency situations, specifically, the ease of access for ambulances to places in emergency is something they've raised. We're going to get into that very very shortly, but first a social We love abnormal things, David, and we couldn't let this social media post pass without further investigation. Damian McCardell from Paracombe Premium Pairs has a premium Perry has posted a picture of a giant pair. It was just a waver and actually it's so big it needs it needs something like you know, when they put a pencil next to something, is it to give you a frame of reference or a two dollar coin because it's giant. Damian mccardill. Good morning to you, Good morning, how are you?
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Speaker 4: We're good things, Damien. So what's the average pairway? Probably what one hundred and fifty two hundred grams?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, a standard pair you would find in the supermarkets would be yet one hundred and fifty to two hundred or so.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and this one's significantly bigger than that, more than five times one thousand and one grams.
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Speaker 6: Yeah. I actually took some photos of a coke can next to it, just to give it some relatively to your size. And when you put the coke can behind it, you actually can't see the can full stop, but there's just well and truly passed the size of the can.
01:33:39
Speaker 1: So how on earth did it get that big?
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Speaker 6: So we've got at our cellard door a range of different pair trees which are ornamental pairs, and they've been grafted so when customers visit they can see different pairs at different stages, different blossom and all that kind of stuff. This is actually a pound pair, so they do grow quite large. Were grafted a probably five or six years ago. Over that period of time we've had a few pairs grow. Last year was a good prop This year is just a huge crop, but not only as a huge number of fruit, it's actually size of fruit as well. And where this sorry you keep going, I say where this tree is. It's right next to our fire exit of our warehouse, and the amount of pears on it was actually bending the tree down into the fire exits, so if you'd actually run out of the wahouse you'd probably knock yourself out. At least you're outside.
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Speaker 1: Then they based does the size do anything to the flavor or what they're like to eat? Damium?
01:34:36
Speaker 6: Yeah, So these ones here I haven't eaten only because they're pretty much similar to like a crab apple, so very high cannon, very high astid. Right, they are supposed to be used for cooking and making cider and all that kind of stuff. We've never done it because we've only really had any number of pears in the last couple of years from this tree. But this year they're just astronomical size. And usually when people walk into our cellar door corner of their eye, they'll see it on the tree and straight away that's where they are getting photos and just checking out the enormous size of it.
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Speaker 4: So Japan holds the record. They grew a pair that way, just shy of three kilos two point nine four eight kilos. Are you going to Are you going to get the get the fertilizer out and see if you can knock them off their their perch at some stage, Damien Well, I.
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Speaker 6: Did tag neutrog in that being a local federalizer company, to say if they want to assist with this, But look the number of pairs on the tree. I'm sure if we took three quarters of those off and the tree put the energy into the ones that were remaining, there would be a pretty damn good chance of getting really really good size. Whether we get the three killows, I'm not sure, but they'll give it a crack.
01:35:45
Speaker 4: You could probably make you know, a liter of Scrumpy with one of these pairs.
01:35:49
Speaker 1: Amazing.
01:35:50
Speaker 6: Well you might even be able to do more than that. Yeah, but now the size is just incredible. So it's just something you just don't see things like that every everyone pieces of fruit and some one. But this is one of those things that really gets your eye, get your attention, and you've just got to have a selfie.
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Speaker 9: Or something with it.
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Speaker 4: That's awesome. Damien, great chat mate, excellent pair of work. Damien mccardal from Paracombe Premium Perry. I love Paracane, great winery there, Paracane.
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Speaker 1: Really it is a beautiful spot.
01:36:19
Speaker 4: Great golf course too. I love the Paracane golf course. It's a good workout that course. It's pretty hilly.
01:36:24
Speaker 1: You haven't had a hole in two there.
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Speaker 4: No give you a good quick pear recipe though from Elizabeth you might book of French Cooking, best French cookbook ever written. Slice some pears. Cook them gently in butter, but increase the heat a bit. Put in some sugar as well, so they caramelize you put in brown sugar and put in white sugar. Then get a vanilla pod. Costs you a bit, but it tastes amazing. Put some cream in, scrape the vanilla into the cream serve. It's the easiest dessert and it tastes stunning.
01:36:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds amazing. Stuff all ingredients and the pair is the hero. A lot of cream required for a pair that big.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you'd need probably about get on the Flurio milk people so they can give you a.
01:37:09
Speaker 1: Ten wet type of cream. R four day to night. We're going to check traffic and come back with a concern about the design of the new Women's and Children's hospital. That's next.
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Speaker 1: Ten minutes to nine. The new Women's and Children's hospital has been long promised. We've got a pretty smart looking new car park that's going up there at the moment, but there are still concerns about the final design decisions that have been taken by the state government. Most recently raised by the Royal Australian New Zealand College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists who have concern about the Women's Assessment Service to be located on a different level. So the ambulance of resuscitation base now. The hospital says, well, we've got a lift, we've got contingencies in place that mean this is not an issue, but the Royal College of Obstrucians and Gynecologists says this represents a threat to women who present to the hospital in a state of physical distress before or after they've been in labor. For example, doctor mag Dehlt joins us out doctor Holt.
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Speaker 24: Good morning, good morning, thanks for having me on.
01:38:27
Speaker 1: Thank you, doctor Holt.
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Speaker 4: Common sense would suggest, what it not that the best place for this is the ground floor.
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Speaker 24: Yeah, that's what we're hoping for current hospital. The emergency services on the grand floor co located with the pediatric emergency department and the resuscitation bays are there as well, so as the women are come out of an ambulance, they are quickly transported into what's known Women's Assessments Service, which is the Women's incy Service, and then can get the care they need.
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Speaker 1: So these are these for ailments distinct a doctor Holt from the sorts of things that would see people sent to another emergency department. I'm thinking in the context of one of the reasons we have the co location of the Women's and Children's and the RAH is because of a series of incidents that happened at the old Women's and Children's hospital where people needed to be transported to an emergency department elsewhere and that was too far away, So that was the argument for co location. But these are discrete medical emergencies, are they that would need to be treated at the new hospital facility?
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Speaker 19: Yeah.
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Speaker 24: So most of the emergencies that presents to the Women's and Children's are to do with pregnancy or labor or in the periods before and after, but there are also quite a number of other emergencies that are gynecological emergencies that can present there, and women who are very unwell with other conditions exacerbated by iecological obstetric problem. I'm just going to sort of the fine co location at the moment, because it was initially planned to be co located at the new hospital with Royal Adlete, so we were going to go into that little triangle right next to the Royal lad Latter hospital. But this hospital is not co located. It's near, but not next to right next to it, So maketu for a little trickier, and therefore we need strong designs and contingencies in the case that a woman does need an adult intensive care unit or other adult clinical specialties, that she gets those within a very short time, because time is of essence in those critical those critical times.
01:40:47
Speaker 1: So is what we're doing here unique. Are there other women's assessment services that are above the ground floor and other.
01:40:53
Speaker 24: Hospitals next Yeah, in a way it's unique. Most other hospitals are co located, so right next to our old general hospital. Certainly we already have that unique situation in North Adelaide, but the North Adllite facility lacks adult intensive care units, which is in the design for this new hospital, although we are still waiting on confirmation of staffing by adults. But we do need to think it different when it is not side by side, because even that small distance of less than a kilometer between where it's proposed and where it's the Royal adlaid Is is going to cause delays and care.
01:41:35
Speaker 1: We need to put on the level sorry, just on the level six element of this. I'm just wondering, are we trying to forge new ground here or are other women's Assessment Services and other hospitals above ground floor, Not that.
01:41:47
Speaker 24: I'm aware of, they're usually on the same level as the ambulance entrance. That is common and conventional because that streamlines the access.
01:41:56
Speaker 4: Given that you guys are on the record, doctor Whole is sounding a war about this, and sais MOA, the Salaried Medical Officers Association, is also now on the record airing similar concerns. I wonder how did it get to this point anyway? What Surely there is enough clinical input into the design of a hospital. The clinicians obviously should be cheeked by jow sitting there with the people with their mechanical pencils as they're drawing the thing to make sure something like this doesn't happen.
01:42:30
Speaker 24: Well, the design has changed so much over time, and there's certainly been consultation with them, the networks, so the women's and Children's hospital. But I think the obvious thing here is, you know, we obviously need more consultations because there's a lack of clarity. How what sort of contingencies are provided and how designs are moving and I think sometimes the issue here is that the designs have moved on and the consultation has it. So I think we would invite more consultation than Rebecca graham A, their CEO of the Women's Children's' is at records. They're saying that this will be happening. So we really invite that and want to be part of that process. But I think a more concurrent and perhaps broader consultation is needed as well.
01:43:20
Speaker 1: Don't want to put you on the spot, but do you think it's still going to cost three point two billion dollars?
01:43:25
Speaker 24: I'm a terrible person to ask about, but look, I don't think it's going to be cheap.
01:43:30
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't sound like it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the only thing in Australia the price of which hasn't gone up for two years.
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Speaker 1: Doctor mcn the.
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