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Speaker 1: This is your Willy Wonka cried last night leader fan. Fan Radio Network. What do you mean? And KFAN.com.
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Speaker 2: Two minutes, one second. Past the hour, three o'clock. Central Daylight Time. We welcome you back to a very special midweek edition of the Bumper to Bumper program on another in an endless array of of beautiful summer days in October. My name is Dan Barrero, former Einstein wretch, newspaper of the Twin Cities. Garzy produces the show, and we will be with you tonight until 6.30.
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Speaker 1: Is that correct? That is correct.
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Speaker 2: 6.30, another three-and-one-half-hour tour. Glenn Mason is scheduled for an in-studio visit at 4.02. And Kessler, by phone today, as he prepares for the debate heard around the world. I saw some commentary on this debate in New Delhi earlier today. The anticipation for tonight's Fox 9 gubernatorial debate.
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Speaker 1: Is that right? It's off the charts how big it is.
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Speaker 2: And I think I might have even seen on, might have been Channel 11 in New Delhi. a Kessler promo. I think Pat Kessler... Oh, I'm sure you have. It's amazing his reach. The Fox 9 reached the big debate that is about as highly anticipated as it could possibly be. What's more anticipated right now in this country? The Fox 9 Minnesota gubernatorial.
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Speaker 1: Debate Or J.J. McCarthy starting for the New York Giants? Well, it's close. It's very close.
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Speaker 3: It's getting thick with J.J., but I'd have to lean debate.
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Speaker 1: Okay. And I assume there's a Fox Local channel in New Delhi.
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Speaker 4: God, yes.
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Speaker 1: Fox New Delhi on Fox Local. Oh, yeah. It's everywhere. I'm sure we could check it out there. I can't wait. In any case, so Kessler will be with us by phone. Is that correct? At 530? If he's got time for us. If he has time for us. We'll see.
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Speaker 3: He may have found a calling that he has to attend to. We will reboot.
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Speaker 2: The Bradshaw and Brian KFA and Toxic text line in moments.
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Speaker 1: I was unable to get ahead of it today.
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Speaker 2: We'll get the Hip Cricket code sometime during this segment and then.
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Speaker 1: Get that whole process going.
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Speaker 2: But as far as I know, you can text now. I might, I just might not Have an opportunity to read them until a little bit later. Would you classify yourself as a big Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory kid?
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Speaker 1: It's fine. I watched it. Overrated? You think it's a little overrated? I think it's a little overrated. Okay. Are you talking about the original or are you talking about the stupid remake? Well, I didn't watch the stupid remake. Okay. With your guy. Johnny Depp. Johnny Depp. And now there's like a Willy Wonka reality show. Is that true?
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Speaker 3: That my family tried to get into for like four minutes and I warned them off and I said, this is stupid. Where it's basically they go, it's the same thing. There's a golden ticket and a group of people go to the chocolate factory. I got about five minutes in and said, I can't invest in this, guys. We got to move on. So it's fine.
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Speaker 1: I get it. You don't love it. You're okay with it. I'm okay with it. The original I loved back in the day. I thought it was genius. I thought, is it Gene Wilder?
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Was brilliant.
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Speaker 2: But there was a great supporting cast in that motion picture.
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Speaker 1: Extremely quirky. Zany, at times, had a message.
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Speaker 5: Yep.
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Speaker 1: The whole bit. You were a big Oompa Loompa guy. I couldn't get enough of the Oompa Loompas. Yeah, how could you?
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Speaker 2: And how they created the spray tan on the Oompa Loompas, I will never know.
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Speaker 1: It was almost orangish. Yes. Wasn't it? I think so. Yeah, I think it almost looked that way. Well, it's in the news again. Willy Wonka and the Golden Ticket are in the news again. Once again, not because I.
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Speaker 2: Think there's another remake, but to a certain extent, maybe the headline should be, Willy Wonka comes to Major League Baseball in the World Series. And I'm curious to get your view on this controversy. I have my own thoughts on it, and I'm hoping to get some reaction from the audience. Yes, we know the Wolves open tonight. There'll be plenty of conversation about that, although we did plenty of it yesterday.
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Speaker 1: With Sam Mitchell.
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Speaker 2: We are aware your Vikings are 5-0. And there'll be stuff to get to there, including the fact that it looks like everybody, all the heavyweights, all the big knockers, are coming back healthy.
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Speaker 1: We're ready. To reinforce things for your Vikings as they prepare for the loser-proof trap game against the Indianapolis Colts. Then there's the J.J. McCarthy story in which a.
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Speaker 2: Is it the second or third most productive wide receiver in Vikings history? Adam Thielen. Is he second or third? I thought he was second or third in terms of yardage or receptions. I can't remember which.
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Speaker 1: He has insinuated himself into the J.J.
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Speaker 2: McCarthy subject as well. So all these things, we'll get to them. We have plenty of time to do all that and more.
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Speaker 1: But I'm very curious about the golden ticket controversy here.
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Speaker 2: Involving the Milwaukee Brewers. Have you heard about this story? I don't think I have.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so here's the way.
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Speaker 2: There have been several stories written on it. This is a Milwaukee, I should say, not a Milwaukee Journal version, but a Wall Street Journal version. Here's what they write to set this thing up. Danny Foschato, Foschato, I'm mispronouncing the name, F-O-C-H-E-S-A-T-O, wanted to treat himself for his 27th birthday In January 2015, 11 years ago, he thought he had the perfect gift. His beloved Milwaukee Brewers had just launched a promotion unlike any other in American professional sports.
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Speaker 1: Sounded too good to be true. Said to himself, this can't be real. Oh, but it was. Focizzato is one of 1,000 individuals.
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Speaker 2: Who spent nearly $ 1, 000 nearly a dozen years ago for what the Brewers called a timeless ticket. Special pass that was going to grant holders the right to attend a single home game of their choosing at any point in the future. Package also included a one-pound brass ticket engraved with the owner's name. Willy Wonka's golden ticket, as he puts it. Dream of a lifetime, right?
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Speaker 1: Well, guess what?
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Speaker 2: Danny wants to cash in. The Brewers are in the World Series for the first time since 1982. In fact, game one this Friday in Milwaukee, they will host the Tampa Bay Rays. Cheapest tickets on the secondary market right now. About $ 3, 000 a ticket.
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Speaker 6: Wow.
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Speaker 2: But as they write in the journal, timeless ticket holders don't have to worry about money. And after waiting more than a decade, they are finally ready to claim.
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Speaker 1: Their prize.
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Speaker 2: Another golden ticket holder, Matt Stolak, professor of business administration at At St. Norbert College in De Pere, is it pronounced De Pere, Wisconsin?
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Speaker 1: Near the Dells. It's got to be near the Dells. Yep. Who traded his timeless ticket for a seat on Friday. Here's the kicker.
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Speaker 2: Not everybody is enthralled with the way their timeless ticket has landed.
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Speaker 4: Oh, no.
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Speaker 2: An information card originally sent to purchasers stipulates that timeless tickets can be redeemed for, quote, the best available seat locations, subject to ticket availability at the time of redemption. Fans assumed this meant they would have access to seats in prime locations.
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Speaker 1: After all, they effectively gave the.
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Speaker 2: Brewers a large loan during a fallow stretch of six consecutive seasons without a playoff berth.
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Speaker 5: Instead.
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Speaker 2: Timeless ticket holders. Those holding on to their very own Milwaukee Brewers golden tickets are saddled with these choices. You want the upper deck or do you want standing room? Josh Weister, a Brewers fan in Minnesota. The vision that I had in my mind was a VIP experience.
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Speaker 1: Timeless ticket. You're super important.
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Speaker 2: Danny Foscizzato said he felt that way when he attempted to deploy his timeless ticket in 2018 when the Brewers fell one victory short of reaching the World Series. So he goes to the box office back then. That's eight years ago. He's shown a large menu of available seats. He wound up with four tickets for potential game two on the field level near home plate, which actually sounds pretty good.
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Speaker 1: But this time.
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Speaker 2: fans trying to redeem their timeless tickets were given a form asking them to rank their seating preferences and to provide two choices for which game they'd like to attend and lower level seats not an option.
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Speaker 1: Option.
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Speaker 2: After further investigation, Pochizzato was offered a solo ticket in a lower level in the outfield for game one and the opportunity to buy three more in the upper deck for game two. It has put a bit of a sour taste.
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Speaker 1: In my mouth.
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Speaker 2: Brewer's ticket representatives told frustrated timeless ticket holders in recent days they were given the best seats available after various pre-sales were completed. Several timeless ticket holders said they thought they would have priority over some of the pre-sale groups. Here's another guy, another timeless ticket holder who's bitter. He bought a timeless ticket for himself and another for his then-toddler son.
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Speaker 1: Adorable. Back in the day. I'm still a Brewers fan, but I'm actually disgusted. I'm not taking my kids up to the fourth 400 level. You need binoculars. Too late to upgrade the seats of the timeless ticket holders. See, that's where I would start.
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Speaker 2: I would say, if you don't want to give everything the timeless ticket holder deserves, shouldn't you at least give him some option, or him or her, say, look, we can't The economy is the economy.
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Speaker 1: We've got too many miles to feed here.
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Speaker 2: But what we will do is we'll give you access where if you're willing to pay, you pick the number. I don't know what it would be, maybe $ 100. We'll upgrade you to a place where you are going to get a ticket worth more than $ 100, but we're not going to necessarily give it to you for free. To me, at the very least, there should be some creativity and imagination there given if you're not literally going to honor those tickets with the presumption that i'm guessing most people would have if they invest in this and by the way this was free money yeah for the milwaukee brewers organization back then for over.
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Speaker 1: 10 years.
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Speaker 2: How much interest do they accrue on all that money so there was a thousand ticket buyers who bought the golden ticket come on man Or are you, let me guess, you're on the corporate side. You're on the brewer side. I think I'm more on the brewer side.
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Speaker 1: Come on. Give them something.
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Speaker 3: The side that I'm actually on, because I just scanned this story, the Wall Street Journal story, that the ticket people... The golden ticket people should have been allowed access before a lot of the different pre-sales.
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Speaker 1: That's what I will say. That's, to me, part of the same thing. And I'm not even saying you're going to give it away for free.
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Speaker 6: No.
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Speaker 1: But if you're not going to give it away for free, give them access to those tickets to say, hey, we'll pay.
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Speaker 3: And it sounds like you could buy, you may have said this, three additional tickets at face value also with your.
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Speaker 1: Single golden ticket? Yeah, fourth level.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Standing room.
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Speaker 2: My golden ticket's going to have me standing next to some drunken idiot who vomits on me?
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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
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Speaker 3: Well, to fairness, at AmFam Field, formerly known as Miller Park, that could be any section.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's true.
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Speaker 5: So.
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Speaker 1: No, I, I come on. I think I'm on the brewer's side. I think I'm on the brewer's side.
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Speaker 3: They should have said you weren't. No, I said, if anything, they should have had a presale. Cause you're not talking about probably a lot of people. Some people may have already cashed it in for some people might be dead.
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Speaker 1: A playoff game. How many tickets could this really be?
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Speaker 5: Eat it.
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Speaker 1: I'm telling the organization should eat it.
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Speaker 2: If you're going to have this kind of promotion and call it a timeless ticket, Honor it.
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Speaker 1: But don't get a timeless ticket. Yeah, but it's not. Nobody thinks of a timeless ticket. They didn't say timeless ticket in the Lexus Club. They said timeless ticket. It's the World Series. There's going to be some kind of demand.
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Speaker 2: You got to give them something more than, yeah, here's your standing room only seat.
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Speaker 1: Come on.
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Speaker 3: Standing room, I can hear you on that. That's where the pre-sale would have been the easiest thing. Give them access before you start selling them to everybody else. I think that probably was the best thing to do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. But I don't know. You're always for corporate America, aren't you? I guess I am. It's unbelievable. I guess I am. Maybe there'll be a lot of texters who agree with you. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Now, my concern is that some will agree just because they feel obligated to hate Milwaukee or hate anything, success, sports success in Wisconsin, even though there's really no reason to hate the Brewers like you might the Packers and.
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Speaker 1: Several other teams.
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Speaker 2: So will they be objectively saying it or will it have more to do with that?
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Speaker 1: No, I want them all to suffer. I don't want to see any Brewers fan get anything. I'm just wondering. I'm trying to get hip cricket going here because I'd like to get some... Well, actually, this will work out well. Let's just go ahead and get a pause in. Let's get some bonus bucks going, and then we can get some reaction next segment. Mace, as I said, between 4 and 5 o'clock. Plenty of Wolves conversation. I might be done with your Minnesota Wild Club. Really? Well, a dramatic comeback, but then we blow it in OT.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 2: suddenly special teams that we've been basically saying we solved all those problems they were awful last night and we still got no trades we got no contract extension we still have we still don't have a trade we're not gonna get we're not gonna get either We're not going to get the contract extension.
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Speaker 1: We're not going to get a trade.
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Speaker 3: I feel okay because you know who we have?
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Speaker 1: What's that? You're off. We have you're off now. We don't need anything else. So he's gone from, yeah, I kind of like him, to he's untouchable in like four minutes. That's how it works. Yeah, but I don't know if it works that way. I think that's part of the ploy by Guerin.
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Speaker 2: He wants this guy built up, hopefully thinking that maybe that'll convince the acting team red wings general manager to do what the previous general manager didn't be interested in.
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Speaker 3: Well in fairness it could be and i'll do the keyword here in a minute it could be part of the tv controversy too and that nobody can watch the games like i haven't seen a single full wild game all season i'm watching the highlights do they do we know that they played last night they played but all i'm doing because i hear them on the fan all i'm doing is listening to people that have actually watched them play in person that could all be part of the conspiracy I can't check for myself if what the Tampa game was the best game for your offer. Was it the next one? I can't, I can't vouch for it. I just have to say, I just have to take Luigi and Russo's word for it.
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Speaker 1: All is right with the Vikings world. Christian Derrissaw, back. TJ Hawkinson, back. Jordan Addison, back. Jordan Mason, back. They were all slated to practice this afternoon. I've not heard if there's been an update since then. Now, remember, technically, Desaw and Hawk remain in the concussion protocol.
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Speaker 2: But it is assumed that barring any, what do they call them?
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Speaker 1: Setbacks? No. Well, yeah, that for sure. Minor blood clots?
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 1: What was the term that was used? Not minor. In the case of the Eagles quarterback?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jalen Hurts.
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Speaker 1: They should be back and ready to go, which is good news for the club. Superficial blood clots? Superficial. Good, that's it exactly. All is right with the world. Meanwhile, I haven't heard anything new on whether there's still Peyton Manning's steam about him taking over the Colts. Have you? That story died almost as quickly as Dan Patrick introduced it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, part of that is because it's week six still. You know, a lot of GM stuff isn't going to happen until... Well, no, but I figured there'd be a few more stories.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that we... Generally speaking, in the national media, they don't wait for 10 weeks. If you're playing the hits, as Dan Patrick likes to believe in, Peyton Manning is a pretty big hit. I just haven't seen anybody else pick up on the possibility of that, but maybe I missed it. Texts are pouring in. Stiffing the golden ticket holders is unfair and bad press for some. It doesn't even materially affect their ticket profits. Ridiculously stupid. Most of all, bad mojo for the series. What if the Brewers figured this would never be an issue because they never expected to make it back to the World Series?
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Speaker 2: My question, how much is the $ 1, 000 from 11 years ago worth today? And that should be the value of the ticket that fans with a golden ticket should receive. They shouldn't have to pay anything extra, as they've already given the Brewers an interest-free loan.
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Speaker 1: Here's my issue with it. You do have a current... ticket population that you have to satisfy. That's the rub.
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Speaker 2: But then you're back to, then don't do this kind of stupid promotion. It's fraught from the beginning, but they are liked it enough to say, let's have some fun with this thing. But occasionally the payment's going.
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Speaker 1: To come due. That's the thing. You do ideas.
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Speaker 3: You make plans to And I'm guessing some of the marketing people that came up with this, I'm guessing a lot of them don't even work there anymore.
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Speaker 1: Probably true, yes.
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Speaker 3: You're doing things that are not even going to affect you theoretically, so you're not thinking that far in advance.
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Speaker 1: You're kind of passing the buck. I don't know. Maybe there are some people that are still around. I don't know what the cultural sustainability of the Brewers organization is. Yeah, it's interesting.
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Speaker 2: Wait until the golden ticket holders realize they don't really own a part of the Packers either.
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Speaker 1: That's true. I mean, Wisconsin people will give money for anything. And then maybe that's what the marketing geniuses were counting on. These guys probably wouldn't even remember they did it.
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Speaker 2: They have no respect for their fans. Well, it caught up to them now, that's for sure. I read an article on this. Brewers completely the wrong here.
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Speaker 1: They promised best available seats after season ticket holders picked. They did not honor this part.
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Speaker 2: They promised best available tickets after season ticket holders picked. If they did not mean it to be World Series tickets, they should have expressly stated that in the sale. Classic big guys taking advantage of normal people. Here's again the rub. That might be an oversimplification. You know, big guys taking advantage of the little people. But that's the danger. If you haven't figured this out and worked it out, you're not going to win the battle. Because that's how it's going to be presented unless you come up with a better solution, more creative solution than the one you seemingly have gone with in this case.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm guessing, I don't know this specifically, but when they talk about best available after season ticket holders pick, I would assume that means the tickets that they... already have yes a lot of times season ticket holders also get access to a pre-sale for additional tickets on top of the ones that you know if they have four season tickets they can usually buy another four so that they can have a yeah you're right so that's probably i'm guessing that's probably what happened here because what are smart season ticket holders doing and people don't like to hear this they're buying a bunch and they're trying to sell them for three grand that's what.
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Speaker 1: They're trying to do they're trying to sell them for three or four grand at cato calum Yes. Although he's big enough that he probably can get one for free. I think Kano has a permanent timeless ticket. He probably does.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure he... I wonder if he has an opinion on this. By the way, let's say for this... Let's be creative here. If the Twins had this kind of promotion with a golden ticket, how... would we screw it up here? How would the, how would the twins franchise attempt to sell this?
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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
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Speaker 2: That would be even worse than what the brewers are trying. That's, there's gotta be somebody creative who can tell us the, the pole ads version of this, like almost like what, well, yeah, if you want to cash in on the golden ticket, maybe we'll put you in that, in that apartment building, condo building, you know, behind it or something like that. There's, there's cause the pole ads, there's always another level.
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Speaker 1: You're right. From a PR disaster standpoint. You're right. So we'll take some suggestions. My mind is.
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Speaker 3: Just blown trying to think about how badly it could go. Everything just crashed all at once in my brain.
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Speaker 1: Let me get to a couple more texts. There's a bunch coming in. The Brewers let people who were deemed keep their seats and keep their timeless ticket. They already admitted they botched this. They did? I'm not sure I understand. Let people who were deemed keep their seats and keep their timeless ticket. What does that mean? I don't understand that.
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Speaker 3: Maybe they get the timeless ticket back. They don't even, it doesn't even count against them. So maybe they got to keep their tickets that they bought when they were redeeming their timeless ticket. But the brewer said, keep your timeless ticket.
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Speaker 1: I see. I see. Okay. Yeah. Maybe that's what, maybe that's what they, they mean.
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Speaker 2: That could be, uh, I, cause I have not read any of their attempt to try to, you know, um, contain the chemical spill, so to speak, uh, Why hate the Brewers?
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Speaker 1: Two words, Bud Selig. Well, yeah, the old-timers could say that.
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Speaker 2: You know, Bud was considered kind of complicit, right, in the contraction talk.
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Speaker 1: For sure.
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Speaker 2: That's when I got... Whoever Bud Selig's right-hand man was as a media relations guy, man, I got a couple phone calls from him at home that were about as vicious as any I'd received.
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Speaker 1: I think Bud had demanded... that he reached out to me. I don't know what I wrote. It was Inkstein Wretch days for sure. So this guy Schlesinger, who's that? Might be a marketing guy. I don't know. Could be. I don't see him quoted here.
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Speaker 3: Said that in effort to make things right, timeless ticket holders will be able to keep their World Series tickets and also retain the voucher for use in the future.
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Speaker 2: Again, that sounds good, but with all the fine print, is it going to do them any better.
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Speaker 1: In the future? Maybe not. That's what you got to work out. And you're right.
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Speaker 3: They said, I'm reading another fan from the Associated Press story here. You're getting priority just behind the season ticket holders. Anything the season ticket holders don't have, you'll have dibs for it at the World Series.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of the story they sold.
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Speaker 3: And I'm guessing where they got stuck was, I'm sure there was a season ticket holder presale, and a lot of those tickets got gobbled up.
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Speaker 1: That has to be it. Or also, it is possible there's a lot of lower-level season ticket holders. Yeah, it has to be.
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Speaker 3: There might not have been a great deluge of lower-level tickets. If you have a good team, there's not a lot of lower-level tickets just sitting there waiting to be gobbled up.
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Speaker 1: But then you're back to then. It's true. I might be coming around. Wisconsin hubris. No Minnesotan would dare believe the Twins or any other Minnesota team might return to a championship series. That's a good question. If the Twins offered the same deal, let's say 10 years ago, would as many as 1,000 people, Twins fans, take them up on it? Or would it be like 150? I think they would. You think they would?
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of gleaming in the geek diehards, man. There's a lot of Twins fans out there. You know, the Lynx did something similar this year. Not timeless ticket, but they did that. if you buy season tickets now, the $ 250 tickets in the upper level, if we win the championship, you get your money back or you get to, basically, it was something where you get to kick ahead the $ 250 for next year's season tickets. They did that in the middle of the summer, if you remember, right?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. You heard how they screwed that up, right?
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 1: Well, refresh my memory. They got swept in the first round of the playoffs. Badly.
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Speaker 2: That'll do it, won't it? This is the contrarian side. Chris, are they supposed to keep 4,000 tickets available.
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Speaker 1: For every game, LOL? Outrage bait for air fillers. Outrage bait. That's the way you dismiss something. If you disagree with the position, it's got to be bait. It has to be just a bit.
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Speaker 2: It can't be that someone else might have come with conviction to a different point of view. And the beauty of going with the bait thing is it makes you feel morally superior. Because the other person can't possibly be using it for any other reason but bait.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: God bless you and Godspeed that you have such moral certainty about how everybody else could possibly be processing the same story. I'm here to accept all differences of opinions, including Gargi at the start. He may be fading a little bit, but that's not the point. this is a small group of loyal fans. Why burn them like this? Well, that gets back to what's practical and what's even possible. And that's where I think you got to try to be somewhat.
00:27:31
Speaker 1: Creative with it. I believe any seats not sold to season ticket holders are then turned over to sponsorships and corporate partners. Well, that would be a problem. I don't think so.
00:27:41
Speaker 3: Like you said, there's so many different pre-sales and agreements that that we probably don't even know about for how tickets get distributed, where they get distributed. There's friends and family tickets. Radio tickets, television partner tickets. There's so many different things.
00:28:00
Speaker 1: A lot of mouths have to be fed and served. Dan, don't rip the Wonka remake. It was much closer to the darkness of the book than the original, except for the dentist backstory. That's from China Guy.
00:28:12
Speaker 2: I'm now intrigued. What the hell is the dentist backstory? Because I don't remember it. I will admit, I couldn't make it all the way through the remake. You've been pretty consistent. Now you could say, well, can I rip it if I haven't seen it all? I think I've seen enough of it. And see, I would say the first one had more darkness than China Guy is suggesting. Maybe I'll put it this way. I think it had enough darkness for me. Also having some warmth as well. It's one of those roles. I can't see anybody but Gene Wilder in the main role.
00:28:44
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I just can't because it can't be done to me any better than he did it. And so then you're back to there's certain roles. It's just why even Even try.
00:28:55
Speaker 2: Before we get to a couple more texts, do you have my sound ready from this?
00:29:01
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if this will be considered rage bait.
00:29:05
Speaker 2: Comments made by a former Vikings wide receiver. I believe this was via SiriusXM, the NFL channel.
00:29:15
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken. It's somewhere like that. It's a national show. And Thielen is asked to comment on on J.J. McCarthy's quick ascension.
00:29:29
Speaker 2: From third-string quarterback to backup quarterback to now, coming up this week, starting quarterback for the New York Giants.
00:29:37
Speaker 1: Just how long since he was traded?
00:29:38
Speaker 5: A month?
00:29:39
Speaker 1: A month and change even that for a fifth round draft choice, listen to what Phelan has to say about the guy we were bored with that we had to move on from.
00:29:51
Speaker 5: Honestly, I think the best thing he does is the deep ball. He throws the best deep ball that I've seen in, in a long time. I mean, it is, it is, it is incredible. You know, I think the big thing that the big question when he was in Minnesota was like, can he throw the touch balls and the layered balls? Like, like you see Brock Hurdy throw. I mean, there was so many examples in that game last night. I'm like, man, if JJ can develop some of that, like watch out. Cause he's got every other tool in his back pocket and he's a gamer, man.
00:30:20
Speaker 1: Everyone loves him.
00:30:21
Speaker 5: Like, again, we kind of go back to what we, how we started the store. The show is Everyone loves him. On the sideline, they're dapping him up. They're saying, man, thanks for the effort. Because everyone loves him. Everyone loves being around him. They love his energy and his attitude and his mindset. He is a gamer. You can't teach that. If we can develop some of this and reign it in and put the right offense around him, I think it's going to be really fun to watch.
00:30:51
Speaker 1: Is that a thumb in the eye to KOC by a former Vikings all-time wide receiver. Great. I mean, can you get any more effusive?
00:31:03
Speaker 5: No.
00:31:04
Speaker 2: In praise of a quarterback who seemed to be on the verge of being cut, who got traded for a fifth-round draft choice. But we said we have seen enough. We don't have to wait any longer. He's making it sound like he's on the verge. Now, that might end up being a bit excessive.
00:31:21
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:31:21
Speaker 1: But I thought it was interesting that it was so... I don't want to say over the top because.
00:31:27
Speaker 2: I don't want to pretend that's, you know, accuse him of not believing what Adam Thielen was saying.
00:31:32
Speaker 1: But man, oh man. Now, will that.
00:31:37
Speaker 2: Give pause to the people who are mad at us for discussing that we didn't need him component of JJ's performance in the fourth quarter last week?
00:31:47
Speaker 1: Will they go or will they just double down and say bleep feeling?
00:31:51
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:31:51
Speaker 1: He's just saying that to be nice. I don't have to mess with that.
00:31:54
Speaker 3: He's mad because his role wasn't big the last time he was here. And he ended up getting traded back to Pittsburgh because he wanted to play or to Pittsburgh, you know, from Minnesota after coming here from Carolina.
00:32:04
Speaker 1: When I heard that sound bite, when I was dumping it in, it did remind me.
00:32:08
Speaker 3: Of something Thielen said to you before he was traded when he was our regular and talking about working out with JJ when he wasn't even a member of the Vikings and how much that competitiveness and everybody loves him-ness stood out to him just in the summer workouts. He's been very consistent with that. Even Brian O'Neill talking about how much everybody liked him. They all went to a wild playoff game together, right?
00:32:36
Speaker 1: And J.J.
00:32:36
Speaker 2: Bought the suite. Everybody likes this guy. I mean, he's got layers of charisma, apparently.
00:32:43
Speaker 1: I can't say I recognized it when I watched him, but I wasn't in the locker room. I wasn't around him. And apparently too much charisma for our coaching staff. They didn't like it. They got sick of it. This is from Eric out of central Minnesota. Dan, you'd expect nothing less from a wide receiver who was cut recently. There you go. After he got brought back. Shoot the messenger. Seems like a little disdain towards KOC, so run with it as you would. Now, that's unfair, I would say, to Eric, because we're the ones, I brought up the possibility that this was just him exacting revenge. That maybe it wasn't pure conviction.
00:33:18
Speaker 2: Yet I'm still going to get smeared for attempting to be as nuanced as possible on this thing. You know, here's what's interesting. If the Vikings keep winning, it's a hell of a story here, right? If Kyler keeps getting better, all's well, right?
00:33:34
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:33:35
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out, in that environment, what's a better story for us? Is it McCarthy starting and throwing three picks, including a pick six, and regressing to the mean, or him continuing to dominate? It's the latter, right? Because just to see what the reaction would be from the folks who weren't all that anti McCarthy until they realized that his time was up here and they weren't supposed to worry.
00:34:06
Speaker 2: About him or think about him anymore. And let's just move on with the rest of our lives. So we don't have to look back.
00:34:10
Speaker 3: The journey we've all been on with JJ is a miraculous one. From, man, I don't know if I would have taken him, to they're not handling him right, he's not doing himself any favors, to wow, have they really given up on him this quickly? It seems a little early. Everybody, it feels like, has been on this volatile J.J. McCarthy journey.
00:34:28
Speaker 1: You're right. With a lot of revisionist history. A lot of.
00:34:31
Speaker 2: Revisionist history and a lot of either feast or famine kind of thought to it as well.
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00:35:44
Speaker 1: It just gets curiouser and curiouser. 3-2-0 guy. JJ's deepest throw last week bounced off the defensive back's chest after being way underthrown into the wide receiver's hands. McCarthy will be injured within two to three weeks. That's possible.
00:36:01
Speaker 2: All these things might be true. None of them address the point. This isn't a second guess. This was a first guess. I will admit, though, when you see flashes, that's the reason why I've felt, and I think you agree, there was no need to cut the cord yet. Flashes don't mean he's going to be a franchise player, but Flashes, there's some stuff here. I mean, so presumably that individual, by all accounts, he threw for more yards passing in, what was it?
00:36:37
Speaker 1: Like 11 minutes.
00:36:38
Speaker 2: 11 minutes than anybody in the history of football. Were they all three-yard passes then with great yaks? Some of them might have been. You think that'd be the first time.
00:36:46
Speaker 1: That would happen? You still get.
00:36:51
Speaker 2: Absolutely credit for a 47-yard completion.
00:36:55
Speaker 1: That's the way it works.
00:36:57
Speaker 2: In July, I put $ 20 down on J.J. McCarthy to win Comeback Player of the Year at a casino in Iowa.
00:37:03
Speaker 1: It was 100-1. Let's go. That'd be amazing. Can he still win the bet if McCarthy is now with a different team? Is that immaterial? I think it's immaterial. I think it's immaterial. If J.J.
00:37:19
Speaker 3: McCarthy is the comeback player of the year, he's the comeback player of the year no matter who he's playing for.
00:37:22
Speaker 1: So this could be his golden ticket. It could be.
00:37:25
Speaker 3: That would be a very Milwaukee Brewers way out of it, though, for the casino. The book that took it said, no, we meant Vikings quarterback J.J.
00:37:32
Speaker 1: McCarthy, not Giants quarterback J.J. McCarthy. I have a question.
00:37:36
Speaker 2: Let's say Kyler's not the guy next year. What do we do at quarterback? Do we go after someone like Mac Jones or Danny Dimes? If the Colts are cleaning house, or do we draft and develop? You saw the mock draft today, didn't you? I think it was, I want to say it was SI.com.
00:37:52
Speaker 1: Who are we taking? Arch Manning. Oh no. At the end, basically late in the first round, we don't need to be doing that. That's when you do it. You project. Yeah. He's kind of a mess right now.
00:38:06
Speaker 3: Give him time. And the whole thing turns around. So we'd have another Manning playing for the Vikings. Rosen would have to do some kind of sit down with them, right?
00:38:16
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. About when arch was playing here. Yeah. The original Archie Manning.
00:38:20
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:38:22
Speaker 2: Um, The Wolves are running a ticket promo called Hunt for the Cup. $ 199 for a 10-game ticket package. If the Wolves win the NBA Cup, you get $ 199 back in ticket credits.
00:38:37
Speaker 3: That's pretty good. That's kind of what the Lynx did.
00:38:39
Speaker 1: Yeah. Same kind of thing you're talking about there.
00:38:41
Speaker 4: Yep.
00:38:41
Speaker 3: It was 250 and you got it back. Either got your money back or you could use it for further tickets.
00:38:47
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, JJ throws the ball deep unintentionally on 15-yard throws. He throws 15-yard passes, 30 yards. Maybe that's what he means. Every ball goes deep. See, it's deep. It's very deep. By the way, have you talked to Lori Fisher lately? I was texting with her during the first break. Let me see if I can get on my system here.
00:39:08
Speaker 2: Senior executive producer, Lori Fisher, Fox 9. Well, the next time you text her, you might want to say, she owes us.
00:39:15
Speaker 1: Okay. She owes both. Well, technically, she doesn't. Fox 9 does. What did we do? This is from tweeter Liam. I was listening to the show last night.
00:39:25
Speaker 2: At work and caught the whole Fox 9 all day segment Slash chat How is this not a thing It was awful programming And everyone I knew turned off Fox After the news was done in the morning Talking about when they'd go to syndication Now I love it Great segments and it's good All we do is change lives That's revenue we're bringing to Fox 9.
00:39:51
Speaker 1: We don't get a cut of that, do we? We don't get a piece of it.
00:39:53
Speaker 3: No, but they keep approving the budget for our show. That's a good point. That's kind of my thought. Yeah, that's the box. Should I play, by the way? Because I did have Sean Skinner send me the Kessler promo.
00:40:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, is Kessler going to have feelings hurt? He probably is not listening right now because he's preparing for the debate.
00:40:12
Speaker 3: But he did text me this morning as a reminder that he's going to be by phone today, which I appreciate. Yeah, he's just trying to communicate with you. And I said, this is the first I've heard of the debate. What is your involvement? And he responded with, I have a promo to show you. So word has definitely gotten back to him. But do you want to hear the promo?
00:40:29
Speaker 1: Yes, might as well. Let's listen. As preamble... So this is not a one you... edited and served up, started serving up. This was a real promo that Fox 9 put together and has run.
00:40:43
Speaker 3: And I'm glad I was going to bring up my promo that was completely sarcastic and over the top. And now I fear not over the top enough because this is the real one that they're running.
00:40:56
Speaker 4: How does it feel to be back? This is something I feel like I need to do. Having the ability to spend more time on the journalism that I want to do. Come back and tell stories. Work with some great journalists. Figure out where we go during this election year and after.
00:41:13
Speaker 5: I'm a reporter.
00:41:14
Speaker 1: That's what I do. That's what I've always done. And that's why I feel like.
00:41:18
Speaker 4: It's important for me to come to Fox 9.
00:41:21
Speaker 1: Pat Kessler, now on Fox 9 and streaming on Fox Local. Like, mine wasn't over the top enough. No, you failed.
00:41:29
Speaker 5: I did.
00:41:29
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't know they were going to go over the top of me. Well, he admits he's not being the journalist anymore. Now he's being the analyst. That's what I wanted to say. He's never leaving the studio for the, speaking of all day, all night, Fox.
00:41:42
Speaker 1: Night, all day.
00:41:43
Speaker 3: Where are these stories that we're trying to cover? Where are the stories? I haven't seen any of the stories.
00:41:49
Speaker 1: Oh, that's too good. Well, I'll have to ask him at five 30. I saw that on Monday.
00:41:53
Speaker 3: I think I texted. No, I told you about it during the day. I was going to text you, but it was just too good. It was too good. And now I feel like I did fail.
00:42:03
Speaker 2: It is literally the same tone of voice he used for his retirement stuff.
00:42:08
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:42:08
Speaker 4: Right?
00:42:08
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the same tone. Like, why did I do it? Oh, this is why I did it. This is who I am. Well, here, let's just... What a life.
00:42:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, play a little bit of the retirement one. The inflections are the same.
00:42:21
Speaker 1: What kind of legacy do I leave? I just did the best job I could. Oh, it's too good. And then there's this.
00:42:32
Speaker 4: How does it feel to be back? This is something I feel like I need to do. What kind of legacy do I leave? I just did the best job I could.
00:42:41
Speaker 1: So in both cases, he asked a question and then answered his own question.
00:42:46
Speaker 5: Yes.
00:42:47
Speaker 1: Correct. He's the journalist apparently for himself, but he's also the subject.
00:42:53
Speaker 2: Saw the entire Giants game, play after play. He came in and the defense played a prevent. Any kind of pressure and he wasn't going to be able to do what he wanted. His next opponent will study his habits. He'll probably have the same result as the Vikings did. Man, people are working overtime. They just can't handle it.
00:43:10
Speaker 1: And they still continue to, I now believe, deliberately miss the point, which isn't that anybody should be ready to turn over anything offensively.
00:43:22
Speaker 2: To this quarterback. But that's a completely different subject. Has anyone ever had the conversation that KOC holds back quarterbacks? Quarterbacks that are under his command don't do all that well. As soon as they go elsewhere, they become household names.
00:43:41
Speaker 1: Why would that be?
00:43:42
Speaker 2: Dan, I get the excitement to see how this McCarthy saga will turn out. But as you always say, let's let the story play out.
00:43:50
Speaker 1: We are! We haven't said anything different than that. Yes, we know.
00:43:55
Speaker 2: He was great in the first fourth quarter against the Bears. And then what happened the rest of the time? It didn't go very, very well.
00:44:01
Speaker 1: Yes, we know. You're not telling us anything we don't know, but you're still changing the subject, or as they say in the business, it's something Mace used to do all the time. Moving the goalposts. Really? Yeah, he was a big moving the goalpost guy. He was, huh? Interesting.
00:44:16
Speaker 2: Like, you know, he'd demand something, you'd give it to him, and then he'd just move the goalpost.
00:44:20
Speaker 1: Say, we need something else. That's not really what I meant or what I was referring to. I don't know.
00:44:25
Speaker 3: Currently, it's, I need a key card, and then it's, well, I can't get in, I'm at the wrong door. The goalposts were moved. But yet, he still got in. I need some clarification.
00:44:34
Speaker 1: Is someone who refuses to start a preseason game still eligible to be called a gamer? I still think that was the deciding factor in letting JJ come. May have been. It may have been, but I'll say again, we're frauds on the subject.
00:44:50
Speaker 2: I've even called out the Jackals on this. We mock and ridicule preseason football endlessly. And then we're going to state, basically, we're going to draw a grand conclusion on the toughness and commitment of a player to Because he didn't want to, like, jump right back in with superficial blood clots to a preseason game?
00:45:11
Speaker 1: We're all frauds on this stuff. Let's make this the top.
00:45:14
Speaker 2: Of the hour break and prepare for mace in your face.
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Speaker 2: Two minutes, one second. Past the hour, three o'clock. Central Daylight Time. We welcome you back to a very special midweek edition of the Bumper to Bumper program on another in an endless array of of beautiful summer days in October. My name is Dan Barrero, former Einstein wretch, newspaper of the Twin Cities. Garzy produces the show, and we will be with you tonight until 6.30.
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Speaker 1: Is that correct? That is correct.
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Speaker 2: 6.30, another three-and-one-half-hour tour. Glenn Mason is scheduled for an in-studio visit at 4.02. And Kessler, by phone today, as he prepares for the debate heard around the world. I saw some commentary on this debate in New Delhi earlier today. The anticipation for tonight's Fox 9 gubernatorial debate.
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Speaker 1: Is that right? It's off the charts how big it is.
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Speaker 2: And I think I might have even seen on, might have been Channel 11 in New Delhi. a Kessler promo. I think Pat Kessler... Oh, I'm sure you have. It's amazing his reach. The Fox 9 reached the big debate that is about as highly anticipated as it could possibly be. What's more anticipated right now in this country? The Fox 9 Minnesota gubernatorial.
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Speaker 1: Debate Or J.J. McCarthy starting for the New York Giants? Well, it's close. It's very close.
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Speaker 3: It's getting thick with J.J., but I'd have to lean debate.
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Speaker 1: Okay. And I assume there's a Fox Local channel in New Delhi.
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Speaker 4: God, yes.
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Speaker 1: Fox New Delhi on Fox Local. Oh, yeah. It's everywhere. I'm sure we could check it out there. I can't wait. In any case, so Kessler will be with us by phone. Is that correct? At 530? If he's got time for us. If he has time for us. We'll see.
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Speaker 3: He may have found a calling that he has to attend to. We will reboot.
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Speaker 2: The Bradshaw and Brian KFA and Toxic text line in moments.
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Speaker 1: I was unable to get ahead of it today.
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Speaker 2: We'll get the Hip Cricket code sometime during this segment and then.
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Speaker 1: Get that whole process going.
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Speaker 2: But as far as I know, you can text now. I might, I just might not Have an opportunity to read them until a little bit later. Would you classify yourself as a big Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory kid?
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Speaker 1: It's fine. I watched it. Overrated? You think it's a little overrated? I think it's a little overrated. Okay. Are you talking about the original or are you talking about the stupid remake? Well, I didn't watch the stupid remake. Okay. With your guy. Johnny Depp. Johnny Depp. And now there's like a Willy Wonka reality show. Is that true?
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Speaker 3: That my family tried to get into for like four minutes and I warned them off and I said, this is stupid. Where it's basically they go, it's the same thing. There's a golden ticket and a group of people go to the chocolate factory. I got about five minutes in and said, I can't invest in this, guys. We got to move on. So it's fine.
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Speaker 1: I get it. You don't love it. You're okay with it. I'm okay with it. The original I loved back in the day. I thought it was genius. I thought, is it Gene Wilder?
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Was brilliant.
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Speaker 2: But there was a great supporting cast in that motion picture.
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Speaker 1: Extremely quirky. Zany, at times, had a message.
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Speaker 5: Yep.
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Speaker 1: The whole bit. You were a big Oompa Loompa guy. I couldn't get enough of the Oompa Loompas. Yeah, how could you?
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Speaker 2: And how they created the spray tan on the Oompa Loompas, I will never know.
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Speaker 1: It was almost orangish. Yes. Wasn't it? I think so. Yeah, I think it almost looked that way. Well, it's in the news again. Willy Wonka and the Golden Ticket are in the news again. Once again, not because I.
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Speaker 2: Think there's another remake, but to a certain extent, maybe the headline should be, Willy Wonka comes to Major League Baseball in the World Series. And I'm curious to get your view on this controversy. I have my own thoughts on it, and I'm hoping to get some reaction from the audience. Yes, we know the Wolves open tonight. There'll be plenty of conversation about that, although we did plenty of it yesterday.
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Speaker 1: With Sam Mitchell.
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Speaker 2: We are aware your Vikings are 5-0. And there'll be stuff to get to there, including the fact that it looks like everybody, all the heavyweights, all the big knockers, are coming back healthy.
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Speaker 1: We're ready. To reinforce things for your Vikings as they prepare for the loser-proof trap game against the Indianapolis Colts. Then there's the J.J. McCarthy story in which a.
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Speaker 2: Is it the second or third most productive wide receiver in Vikings history? Adam Thielen. Is he second or third? I thought he was second or third in terms of yardage or receptions. I can't remember which.
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Speaker 1: He has insinuated himself into the J.J.
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Speaker 2: McCarthy subject as well. So all these things, we'll get to them. We have plenty of time to do all that and more.
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Speaker 1: But I'm very curious about the golden ticket controversy here.
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Speaker 2: Involving the Milwaukee Brewers. Have you heard about this story? I don't think I have.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so here's the way.
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Speaker 2: There have been several stories written on it. This is a Milwaukee, I should say, not a Milwaukee Journal version, but a Wall Street Journal version. Here's what they write to set this thing up. Danny Foschato, Foschato, I'm mispronouncing the name, F-O-C-H-E-S-A-T-O, wanted to treat himself for his 27th birthday In January 2015, 11 years ago, he thought he had the perfect gift. His beloved Milwaukee Brewers had just launched a promotion unlike any other in American professional sports.
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Speaker 1: Sounded too good to be true. Said to himself, this can't be real. Oh, but it was. Focizzato is one of 1,000 individuals.
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Speaker 2: Who spent nearly $ 1, 000 nearly a dozen years ago for what the Brewers called a timeless ticket. Special pass that was going to grant holders the right to attend a single home game of their choosing at any point in the future. Package also included a one-pound brass ticket engraved with the owner's name. Willy Wonka's golden ticket, as he puts it. Dream of a lifetime, right?
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Speaker 1: Well, guess what?
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Speaker 2: Danny wants to cash in. The Brewers are in the World Series for the first time since 1982. In fact, game one this Friday in Milwaukee, they will host the Tampa Bay Rays. Cheapest tickets on the secondary market right now. About $ 3, 000 a ticket.
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Speaker 6: Wow.
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Speaker 2: But as they write in the journal, timeless ticket holders don't have to worry about money. And after waiting more than a decade, they are finally ready to claim.
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Speaker 1: Their prize.
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Speaker 2: Another golden ticket holder, Matt Stolak, professor of business administration at At St. Norbert College in De Pere, is it pronounced De Pere, Wisconsin?
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Speaker 1: Near the Dells. It's got to be near the Dells. Yep. Who traded his timeless ticket for a seat on Friday. Here's the kicker.
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Speaker 2: Not everybody is enthralled with the way their timeless ticket has landed.
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Speaker 4: Oh, no.
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Speaker 2: An information card originally sent to purchasers stipulates that timeless tickets can be redeemed for, quote, the best available seat locations, subject to ticket availability at the time of redemption. Fans assumed this meant they would have access to seats in prime locations.
00:08:37
Speaker 1: After all, they effectively gave the.
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Speaker 2: Brewers a large loan during a fallow stretch of six consecutive seasons without a playoff berth.
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Speaker 5: Instead.
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Speaker 2: Timeless ticket holders. Those holding on to their very own Milwaukee Brewers golden tickets are saddled with these choices. You want the upper deck or do you want standing room? Josh Weister, a Brewers fan in Minnesota. The vision that I had in my mind was a VIP experience.
00:09:13
Speaker 1: Timeless ticket. You're super important.
00:09:17
Speaker 2: Danny Foscizzato said he felt that way when he attempted to deploy his timeless ticket in 2018 when the Brewers fell one victory short of reaching the World Series. So he goes to the box office back then. That's eight years ago. He's shown a large menu of available seats. He wound up with four tickets for potential game two on the field level near home plate, which actually sounds pretty good.
00:09:43
Speaker 1: But this time.
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Speaker 2: fans trying to redeem their timeless tickets were given a form asking them to rank their seating preferences and to provide two choices for which game they'd like to attend and lower level seats not an option.
00:10:00
Speaker 1: Option.
00:10:00
Speaker 2: After further investigation, Pochizzato was offered a solo ticket in a lower level in the outfield for game one and the opportunity to buy three more in the upper deck for game two. It has put a bit of a sour taste.
00:10:14
Speaker 1: In my mouth.
00:10:16
Speaker 2: Brewer's ticket representatives told frustrated timeless ticket holders in recent days they were given the best seats available after various pre-sales were completed. Several timeless ticket holders said they thought they would have priority over some of the pre-sale groups. Here's another guy, another timeless ticket holder who's bitter. He bought a timeless ticket for himself and another for his then-toddler son.
00:10:43
Speaker 1: Adorable. Back in the day. I'm still a Brewers fan, but I'm actually disgusted. I'm not taking my kids up to the fourth 400 level. You need binoculars. Too late to upgrade the seats of the timeless ticket holders. See, that's where I would start.
00:10:59
Speaker 2: I would say, if you don't want to give everything the timeless ticket holder deserves, shouldn't you at least give him some option, or him or her, say, look, we can't The economy is the economy.
00:11:17
Speaker 1: We've got too many miles to feed here.
00:11:20
Speaker 2: But what we will do is we'll give you access where if you're willing to pay, you pick the number. I don't know what it would be, maybe $ 100. We'll upgrade you to a place where you are going to get a ticket worth more than $ 100, but we're not going to necessarily give it to you for free. To me, at the very least, there should be some creativity and imagination there given if you're not literally going to honor those tickets with the presumption that i'm guessing most people would have if they invest in this and by the way this was free money yeah for the milwaukee brewers organization back then for over.
00:11:54
Speaker 1: 10 years.
00:11:56
Speaker 2: How much interest do they accrue on all that money so there was a thousand ticket buyers who bought the golden ticket come on man Or are you, let me guess, you're on the corporate side. You're on the brewer side. I think I'm more on the brewer side.
00:12:11
Speaker 1: Come on. Give them something.
00:12:12
Speaker 3: The side that I'm actually on, because I just scanned this story, the Wall Street Journal story, that the ticket people... The golden ticket people should have been allowed access before a lot of the different pre-sales.
00:12:28
Speaker 1: That's what I will say. That's, to me, part of the same thing. And I'm not even saying you're going to give it away for free.
00:12:33
Speaker 6: No.
00:12:33
Speaker 1: But if you're not going to give it away for free, give them access to those tickets to say, hey, we'll pay.
00:12:38
Speaker 3: And it sounds like you could buy, you may have said this, three additional tickets at face value also with your.
00:12:47
Speaker 1: Single golden ticket? Yeah, fourth level.
00:12:51
Speaker 5: Yes.
00:12:51
Speaker 1: Standing room.
00:12:53
Speaker 2: My golden ticket's going to have me standing next to some drunken idiot who vomits on me?
00:12:59
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
00:13:00
Speaker 3: Well, to fairness, at AmFam Field, formerly known as Miller Park, that could be any section.
00:13:04
Speaker 1: Well, that's true.
00:13:05
Speaker 5: So.
00:13:07
Speaker 1: No, I, I come on. I think I'm on the brewer's side. I think I'm on the brewer's side.
00:13:11
Speaker 3: They should have said you weren't. No, I said, if anything, they should have had a presale. Cause you're not talking about probably a lot of people. Some people may have already cashed it in for some people might be dead.
00:13:22
Speaker 1: A playoff game. How many tickets could this really be?
00:13:24
Speaker 5: Eat it.
00:13:25
Speaker 1: I'm telling the organization should eat it.
00:13:27
Speaker 2: If you're going to have this kind of promotion and call it a timeless ticket, Honor it.
00:13:33
Speaker 1: But don't get a timeless ticket. Yeah, but it's not. Nobody thinks of a timeless ticket. They didn't say timeless ticket in the Lexus Club. They said timeless ticket. It's the World Series. There's going to be some kind of demand.
00:13:43
Speaker 2: You got to give them something more than, yeah, here's your standing room only seat.
00:13:48
Speaker 1: Come on.
00:13:49
Speaker 3: Standing room, I can hear you on that. That's where the pre-sale would have been the easiest thing. Give them access before you start selling them to everybody else. I think that probably was the best thing to do.
00:13:57
Speaker 1: Yeah. But I don't know. You're always for corporate America, aren't you? I guess I am. It's unbelievable. I guess I am. Maybe there'll be a lot of texters who agree with you. I don't know.
00:14:07
Speaker 2: Now, my concern is that some will agree just because they feel obligated to hate Milwaukee or hate anything, success, sports success in Wisconsin, even though there's really no reason to hate the Brewers like you might the Packers and.
00:14:20
Speaker 1: Several other teams.
00:14:22
Speaker 2: So will they be objectively saying it or will it have more to do with that?
00:14:25
Speaker 1: No, I want them all to suffer. I don't want to see any Brewers fan get anything. I'm just wondering. I'm trying to get hip cricket going here because I'd like to get some... Well, actually, this will work out well. Let's just go ahead and get a pause in. Let's get some bonus bucks going, and then we can get some reaction next segment. Mace, as I said, between 4 and 5 o'clock. Plenty of Wolves conversation. I might be done with your Minnesota Wild Club. Really? Well, a dramatic comeback, but then we blow it in OT.
00:14:54
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:14:55
Speaker 4: Uh.
00:14:55
Speaker 2: suddenly special teams that we've been basically saying we solved all those problems they were awful last night and we still got no trades we got no contract extension we still have we still don't have a trade we're not gonna get we're not gonna get either We're not going to get the contract extension.
00:15:10
Speaker 1: We're not going to get a trade.
00:15:11
Speaker 3: I feel okay because you know who we have?
00:15:13
Speaker 1: What's that? You're off. We have you're off now. We don't need anything else. So he's gone from, yeah, I kind of like him, to he's untouchable in like four minutes. That's how it works. Yeah, but I don't know if it works that way. I think that's part of the ploy by Guerin.
00:15:31
Speaker 2: He wants this guy built up, hopefully thinking that maybe that'll convince the acting team red wings general manager to do what the previous general manager didn't be interested in.
00:15:40
Speaker 3: Well in fairness it could be and i'll do the keyword here in a minute it could be part of the tv controversy too and that nobody can watch the games like i haven't seen a single full wild game all season i'm watching the highlights do they do we know that they played last night they played but all i'm doing because i hear them on the fan all i'm doing is listening to people that have actually watched them play in person that could all be part of the conspiracy I can't check for myself if what the Tampa game was the best game for your offer. Was it the next one? I can't, I can't vouch for it. I just have to say, I just have to take Luigi and Russo's word for it.
00:16:12
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00:17:16
Speaker 1: All is right with the Vikings world. Christian Derrissaw, back. TJ Hawkinson, back. Jordan Addison, back. Jordan Mason, back. They were all slated to practice this afternoon. I've not heard if there's been an update since then. Now, remember, technically, Desaw and Hawk remain in the concussion protocol.
00:17:46
Speaker 2: But it is assumed that barring any, what do they call them?
00:17:53
Speaker 1: Setbacks? No. Well, yeah, that for sure. Minor blood clots?
00:18:00
Speaker 4: No.
00:18:00
Speaker 1: What was the term that was used? Not minor. In the case of the Eagles quarterback?
00:18:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jalen Hurts.
00:18:07
Speaker 1: They should be back and ready to go, which is good news for the club. Superficial blood clots? Superficial. Good, that's it exactly. All is right with the world. Meanwhile, I haven't heard anything new on whether there's still Peyton Manning's steam about him taking over the Colts. Have you? That story died almost as quickly as Dan Patrick introduced it.
00:18:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, part of that is because it's week six still. You know, a lot of GM stuff isn't going to happen until... Well, no, but I figured there'd be a few more stories.
00:18:37
Speaker 1: I mean, that we... Generally speaking, in the national media, they don't wait for 10 weeks. If you're playing the hits, as Dan Patrick likes to believe in, Peyton Manning is a pretty big hit. I just haven't seen anybody else pick up on the possibility of that, but maybe I missed it. Texts are pouring in. Stiffing the golden ticket holders is unfair and bad press for some. It doesn't even materially affect their ticket profits. Ridiculously stupid. Most of all, bad mojo for the series. What if the Brewers figured this would never be an issue because they never expected to make it back to the World Series?
00:19:19
Speaker 2: My question, how much is the $ 1, 000 from 11 years ago worth today? And that should be the value of the ticket that fans with a golden ticket should receive. They shouldn't have to pay anything extra, as they've already given the Brewers an interest-free loan.
00:19:34
Speaker 1: Here's my issue with it. You do have a current... ticket population that you have to satisfy. That's the rub.
00:19:42
Speaker 2: But then you're back to, then don't do this kind of stupid promotion. It's fraught from the beginning, but they are liked it enough to say, let's have some fun with this thing. But occasionally the payment's going.
00:19:55
Speaker 1: To come due. That's the thing. You do ideas.
00:19:58
Speaker 3: You make plans to And I'm guessing some of the marketing people that came up with this, I'm guessing a lot of them don't even work there anymore.
00:20:04
Speaker 1: Probably true, yes.
00:20:05
Speaker 3: You're doing things that are not even going to affect you theoretically, so you're not thinking that far in advance.
00:20:12
Speaker 1: You're kind of passing the buck. I don't know. Maybe there are some people that are still around. I don't know what the cultural sustainability of the Brewers organization is. Yeah, it's interesting.
00:20:21
Speaker 2: Wait until the golden ticket holders realize they don't really own a part of the Packers either.
00:20:27
Speaker 1: That's true. I mean, Wisconsin people will give money for anything. And then maybe that's what the marketing geniuses were counting on. These guys probably wouldn't even remember they did it.
00:20:36
Speaker 2: They have no respect for their fans. Well, it caught up to them now, that's for sure. I read an article on this. Brewers completely the wrong here.
00:20:43
Speaker 1: They promised best available seats after season ticket holders picked. They did not honor this part.
00:20:48
Speaker 2: They promised best available tickets after season ticket holders picked. If they did not mean it to be World Series tickets, they should have expressly stated that in the sale. Classic big guys taking advantage of normal people. Here's again the rub. That might be an oversimplification. You know, big guys taking advantage of the little people. But that's the danger. If you haven't figured this out and worked it out, you're not going to win the battle. Because that's how it's going to be presented unless you come up with a better solution, more creative solution than the one you seemingly have gone with in this case.
00:21:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm guessing, I don't know this specifically, but when they talk about best available after season ticket holders pick, I would assume that means the tickets that they... already have yes a lot of times season ticket holders also get access to a pre-sale for additional tickets on top of the ones that you know if they have four season tickets they can usually buy another four so that they can have a yeah you're right so that's probably i'm guessing that's probably what happened here because what are smart season ticket holders doing and people don't like to hear this they're buying a bunch and they're trying to sell them for three grand that's what.
00:21:53
Speaker 1: They're trying to do they're trying to sell them for three or four grand at cato calum Yes. Although he's big enough that he probably can get one for free. I think Kano has a permanent timeless ticket. He probably does.
00:22:01
Speaker 2: I'm sure he... I wonder if he has an opinion on this. By the way, let's say for this... Let's be creative here. If the Twins had this kind of promotion with a golden ticket, how... would we screw it up here? How would the, how would the twins franchise attempt to sell this?
00:22:19
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
00:22:19
Speaker 2: That would be even worse than what the brewers are trying. That's, there's gotta be somebody creative who can tell us the, the pole ads version of this, like almost like what, well, yeah, if you want to cash in on the golden ticket, maybe we'll put you in that, in that apartment building, condo building, you know, behind it or something like that. There's, there's cause the pole ads, there's always another level.
00:22:40
Speaker 1: You're right. From a PR disaster standpoint. You're right. So we'll take some suggestions. My mind is.
00:22:46
Speaker 3: Just blown trying to think about how badly it could go. Everything just crashed all at once in my brain.
00:22:51
Speaker 1: Let me get to a couple more texts. There's a bunch coming in. The Brewers let people who were deemed keep their seats and keep their timeless ticket. They already admitted they botched this. They did? I'm not sure I understand. Let people who were deemed keep their seats and keep their timeless ticket. What does that mean? I don't understand that.
00:23:15
Speaker 3: Maybe they get the timeless ticket back. They don't even, it doesn't even count against them. So maybe they got to keep their tickets that they bought when they were redeeming their timeless ticket. But the brewer said, keep your timeless ticket.
00:23:28
Speaker 1: I see. I see. Okay. Yeah. Maybe that's what, maybe that's what they, they mean.
00:23:32
Speaker 2: That could be, uh, I, cause I have not read any of their attempt to try to, you know, um, contain the chemical spill, so to speak, uh, Why hate the Brewers?
00:23:43
Speaker 1: Two words, Bud Selig. Well, yeah, the old-timers could say that.
00:23:46
Speaker 2: You know, Bud was considered kind of complicit, right, in the contraction talk.
00:23:52
Speaker 1: For sure.
00:23:52
Speaker 2: That's when I got... Whoever Bud Selig's right-hand man was as a media relations guy, man, I got a couple phone calls from him at home that were about as vicious as any I'd received.
00:24:07
Speaker 1: I think Bud had demanded... that he reached out to me. I don't know what I wrote. It was Inkstein Wretch days for sure. So this guy Schlesinger, who's that? Might be a marketing guy. I don't know. Could be. I don't see him quoted here.
00:24:23
Speaker 3: Said that in effort to make things right, timeless ticket holders will be able to keep their World Series tickets and also retain the voucher for use in the future.
00:24:32
Speaker 2: Again, that sounds good, but with all the fine print, is it going to do them any better.
00:24:36
Speaker 1: In the future? Maybe not. That's what you got to work out. And you're right.
00:24:40
Speaker 3: They said, I'm reading another fan from the Associated Press story here. You're getting priority just behind the season ticket holders. Anything the season ticket holders don't have, you'll have dibs for it at the World Series.
00:24:51
Speaker 1: That's kind of the story they sold.
00:24:53
Speaker 3: And I'm guessing where they got stuck was, I'm sure there was a season ticket holder presale, and a lot of those tickets got gobbled up.
00:25:00
Speaker 1: That has to be it. Or also, it is possible there's a lot of lower-level season ticket holders. Yeah, it has to be.
00:25:07
Speaker 3: There might not have been a great deluge of lower-level tickets. If you have a good team, there's not a lot of lower-level tickets just sitting there waiting to be gobbled up.
00:25:18
Speaker 1: But then you're back to then. It's true. I might be coming around. Wisconsin hubris. No Minnesotan would dare believe the Twins or any other Minnesota team might return to a championship series. That's a good question. If the Twins offered the same deal, let's say 10 years ago, would as many as 1,000 people, Twins fans, take them up on it? Or would it be like 150? I think they would. You think they would?
00:25:47
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:25:47
Speaker 3: There's a lot of gleaming in the geek diehards, man. There's a lot of Twins fans out there. You know, the Lynx did something similar this year. Not timeless ticket, but they did that. if you buy season tickets now, the $ 250 tickets in the upper level, if we win the championship, you get your money back or you get to, basically, it was something where you get to kick ahead the $ 250 for next year's season tickets. They did that in the middle of the summer, if you remember, right?
00:26:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. You heard how they screwed that up, right?
00:26:20
Speaker 5: No.
00:26:21
Speaker 1: Well, refresh my memory. They got swept in the first round of the playoffs. Badly.
00:26:26
Speaker 2: That'll do it, won't it? This is the contrarian side. Chris, are they supposed to keep 4,000 tickets available.
00:26:33
Speaker 1: For every game, LOL? Outrage bait for air fillers. Outrage bait. That's the way you dismiss something. If you disagree with the position, it's got to be bait. It has to be just a bit.
00:26:46
Speaker 2: It can't be that someone else might have come with conviction to a different point of view. And the beauty of going with the bait thing is it makes you feel morally superior. Because the other person can't possibly be using it for any other reason but bait.
00:27:02
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:27:03
Speaker 2: God bless you and Godspeed that you have such moral certainty about how everybody else could possibly be processing the same story. I'm here to accept all differences of opinions, including Gargi at the start. He may be fading a little bit, but that's not the point. this is a small group of loyal fans. Why burn them like this? Well, that gets back to what's practical and what's even possible. And that's where I think you got to try to be somewhat.
00:27:31
Speaker 1: Creative with it. I believe any seats not sold to season ticket holders are then turned over to sponsorships and corporate partners. Well, that would be a problem. I don't think so.
00:27:41
Speaker 3: Like you said, there's so many different pre-sales and agreements that that we probably don't even know about for how tickets get distributed, where they get distributed. There's friends and family tickets. Radio tickets, television partner tickets. There's so many different things.
00:28:00
Speaker 1: A lot of mouths have to be fed and served. Dan, don't rip the Wonka remake. It was much closer to the darkness of the book than the original, except for the dentist backstory. That's from China Guy.
00:28:12
Speaker 2: I'm now intrigued. What the hell is the dentist backstory? Because I don't remember it. I will admit, I couldn't make it all the way through the remake. You've been pretty consistent. Now you could say, well, can I rip it if I haven't seen it all? I think I've seen enough of it. And see, I would say the first one had more darkness than China Guy is suggesting. Maybe I'll put it this way. I think it had enough darkness for me. Also having some warmth as well. It's one of those roles. I can't see anybody but Gene Wilder in the main role.
00:28:44
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I just can't because it can't be done to me any better than he did it. And so then you're back to there's certain roles. It's just why even Even try.
00:28:55
Speaker 2: Before we get to a couple more texts, do you have my sound ready from this?
00:29:01
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if this will be considered rage bait.
00:29:05
Speaker 2: Comments made by a former Vikings wide receiver. I believe this was via SiriusXM, the NFL channel.
00:29:15
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken. It's somewhere like that. It's a national show. And Thielen is asked to comment on on J.J. McCarthy's quick ascension.
00:29:29
Speaker 2: From third-string quarterback to backup quarterback to now, coming up this week, starting quarterback for the New York Giants.
00:29:37
Speaker 1: Just how long since he was traded?
00:29:38
Speaker 5: A month?
00:29:39
Speaker 1: A month and change even that for a fifth round draft choice, listen to what Phelan has to say about the guy we were bored with that we had to move on from.
00:29:51
Speaker 5: Honestly, I think the best thing he does is the deep ball. He throws the best deep ball that I've seen in, in a long time. I mean, it is, it is, it is incredible. You know, I think the big thing that the big question when he was in Minnesota was like, can he throw the touch balls and the layered balls? Like, like you see Brock Hurdy throw. I mean, there was so many examples in that game last night. I'm like, man, if JJ can develop some of that, like watch out. Cause he's got every other tool in his back pocket and he's a gamer, man.
00:30:20
Speaker 1: Everyone loves him.
00:30:21
Speaker 5: Like, again, we kind of go back to what we, how we started the store. The show is Everyone loves him. On the sideline, they're dapping him up. They're saying, man, thanks for the effort. Because everyone loves him. Everyone loves being around him. They love his energy and his attitude and his mindset. He is a gamer. You can't teach that. If we can develop some of this and reign it in and put the right offense around him, I think it's going to be really fun to watch.
00:30:51
Speaker 1: Is that a thumb in the eye to KOC by a former Vikings all-time wide receiver. Great. I mean, can you get any more effusive?
00:31:03
Speaker 5: No.
00:31:04
Speaker 2: In praise of a quarterback who seemed to be on the verge of being cut, who got traded for a fifth-round draft choice. But we said we have seen enough. We don't have to wait any longer. He's making it sound like he's on the verge. Now, that might end up being a bit excessive.
00:31:21
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:31:21
Speaker 1: But I thought it was interesting that it was so... I don't want to say over the top because.
00:31:27
Speaker 2: I don't want to pretend that's, you know, accuse him of not believing what Adam Thielen was saying.
00:31:32
Speaker 1: But man, oh man. Now, will that.
00:31:37
Speaker 2: Give pause to the people who are mad at us for discussing that we didn't need him component of JJ's performance in the fourth quarter last week?
00:31:47
Speaker 1: Will they go or will they just double down and say bleep feeling?
00:31:51
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:31:51
Speaker 1: He's just saying that to be nice. I don't have to mess with that.
00:31:54
Speaker 3: He's mad because his role wasn't big the last time he was here. And he ended up getting traded back to Pittsburgh because he wanted to play or to Pittsburgh, you know, from Minnesota after coming here from Carolina.
00:32:04
Speaker 1: When I heard that sound bite, when I was dumping it in, it did remind me.
00:32:08
Speaker 3: Of something Thielen said to you before he was traded when he was our regular and talking about working out with JJ when he wasn't even a member of the Vikings and how much that competitiveness and everybody loves him-ness stood out to him just in the summer workouts. He's been very consistent with that. Even Brian O'Neill talking about how much everybody liked him. They all went to a wild playoff game together, right?
00:32:36
Speaker 1: And J.J.
00:32:36
Speaker 2: Bought the suite. Everybody likes this guy. I mean, he's got layers of charisma, apparently.
00:32:43
Speaker 1: I can't say I recognized it when I watched him, but I wasn't in the locker room. I wasn't around him. And apparently too much charisma for our coaching staff. They didn't like it. They got sick of it. This is from Eric out of central Minnesota. Dan, you'd expect nothing less from a wide receiver who was cut recently. There you go. After he got brought back. Shoot the messenger. Seems like a little disdain towards KOC, so run with it as you would. Now, that's unfair, I would say, to Eric, because we're the ones, I brought up the possibility that this was just him exacting revenge. That maybe it wasn't pure conviction.
00:33:18
Speaker 2: Yet I'm still going to get smeared for attempting to be as nuanced as possible on this thing. You know, here's what's interesting. If the Vikings keep winning, it's a hell of a story here, right? If Kyler keeps getting better, all's well, right?
00:33:34
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:33:35
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out, in that environment, what's a better story for us? Is it McCarthy starting and throwing three picks, including a pick six, and regressing to the mean, or him continuing to dominate? It's the latter, right? Because just to see what the reaction would be from the folks who weren't all that anti McCarthy until they realized that his time was up here and they weren't supposed to worry.
00:34:06
Speaker 2: About him or think about him anymore. And let's just move on with the rest of our lives. So we don't have to look back.
00:34:10
Speaker 3: The journey we've all been on with JJ is a miraculous one. From, man, I don't know if I would have taken him, to they're not handling him right, he's not doing himself any favors, to wow, have they really given up on him this quickly? It seems a little early. Everybody, it feels like, has been on this volatile J.J. McCarthy journey.
00:34:28
Speaker 1: You're right. With a lot of revisionist history. A lot of.
00:34:31
Speaker 2: Revisionist history and a lot of either feast or famine kind of thought to it as well.
00:34:36
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00:34:45
Speaker 5: The Fan, along with two men and a truck, want to help you win $ 1, 000.
00:34:53
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Speaker 1: It just gets curiouser and curiouser. 3-2-0 guy. JJ's deepest throw last week bounced off the defensive back's chest after being way underthrown into the wide receiver's hands. McCarthy will be injured within two to three weeks. That's possible.
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Speaker 2: All these things might be true. None of them address the point. This isn't a second guess. This was a first guess. I will admit, though, when you see flashes, that's the reason why I've felt, and I think you agree, there was no need to cut the cord yet. Flashes don't mean he's going to be a franchise player, but Flashes, there's some stuff here. I mean, so presumably that individual, by all accounts, he threw for more yards passing in, what was it?
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Speaker 1: Like 11 minutes.
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Speaker 2: 11 minutes than anybody in the history of football. Were they all three-yard passes then with great yaks? Some of them might have been. You think that'd be the first time.
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Speaker 1: That would happen? You still get.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely credit for a 47-yard completion.
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Speaker 1: That's the way it works.
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Speaker 2: In July, I put $ 20 down on J.J. McCarthy to win Comeback Player of the Year at a casino in Iowa.
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Speaker 1: It was 100-1. Let's go. That'd be amazing. Can he still win the bet if McCarthy is now with a different team? Is that immaterial? I think it's immaterial. I think it's immaterial. If J.J.
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Speaker 3: McCarthy is the comeback player of the year, he's the comeback player of the year no matter who he's playing for.
00:37:22
Speaker 1: So this could be his golden ticket. It could be.
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Speaker 3: That would be a very Milwaukee Brewers way out of it, though, for the casino. The book that took it said, no, we meant Vikings quarterback J.J.
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Speaker 1: McCarthy, not Giants quarterback J.J. McCarthy. I have a question.
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Speaker 2: Let's say Kyler's not the guy next year. What do we do at quarterback? Do we go after someone like Mac Jones or Danny Dimes? If the Colts are cleaning house, or do we draft and develop? You saw the mock draft today, didn't you? I think it was, I want to say it was SI.com.
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Speaker 1: Who are we taking? Arch Manning. Oh no. At the end, basically late in the first round, we don't need to be doing that. That's when you do it. You project. Yeah. He's kind of a mess right now.
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Speaker 3: Give him time. And the whole thing turns around. So we'd have another Manning playing for the Vikings. Rosen would have to do some kind of sit down with them, right?
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Speaker 1: There's no question about that. About when arch was playing here. Yeah. The original Archie Manning.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: That's pretty good. That's kind of what the Lynx did.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Same kind of thing you're talking about there.
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Speaker 4: Yep.
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Speaker 3: It was 250 and you got it back. Either got your money back or you could use it for further tickets.
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, JJ throws the ball deep unintentionally on 15-yard throws. He throws 15-yard passes, 30 yards. Maybe that's what he means. Every ball goes deep. See, it's deep. It's very deep. By the way, have you talked to Lori Fisher lately? I was texting with her during the first break. Let me see if I can get on my system here.
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Speaker 2: Senior executive producer, Lori Fisher, Fox 9. Well, the next time you text her, you might want to say, she owes us.
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Speaker 1: Okay. She owes both. Well, technically, she doesn't. Fox 9 does. What did we do? This is from tweeter Liam. I was listening to the show last night.
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Speaker 2: At work and caught the whole Fox 9 all day segment Slash chat How is this not a thing It was awful programming And everyone I knew turned off Fox After the news was done in the morning Talking about when they'd go to syndication Now I love it Great segments and it's good All we do is change lives That's revenue we're bringing to Fox 9.
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Speaker 1: We don't get a cut of that, do we? We don't get a piece of it.
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Speaker 3: No, but they keep approving the budget for our show. That's a good point. That's kind of my thought. Yeah, that's the box. Should I play, by the way? Because I did have Sean Skinner send me the Kessler promo.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, is Kessler going to have feelings hurt? He probably is not listening right now because he's preparing for the debate.
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Speaker 3: But he did text me this morning as a reminder that he's going to be by phone today, which I appreciate. Yeah, he's just trying to communicate with you. And I said, this is the first I've heard of the debate. What is your involvement? And he responded with, I have a promo to show you. So word has definitely gotten back to him. But do you want to hear the promo?
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Speaker 1: Yes, might as well. Let's listen. As preamble... So this is not a one you... edited and served up, started serving up. This was a real promo that Fox 9 put together and has run.
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Speaker 3: And I'm glad I was going to bring up my promo that was completely sarcastic and over the top. And now I fear not over the top enough because this is the real one that they're running.
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Speaker 4: How does it feel to be back? This is something I feel like I need to do. Having the ability to spend more time on the journalism that I want to do. Come back and tell stories. Work with some great journalists. Figure out where we go during this election year and after.
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Speaker 5: I'm a reporter.
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Speaker 1: That's what I do. That's what I've always done. And that's why I feel like.
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Speaker 4: It's important for me to come to Fox 9.
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Speaker 1: Pat Kessler, now on Fox 9 and streaming on Fox Local. Like, mine wasn't over the top enough. No, you failed.
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Speaker 5: I did.
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Speaker 2: Well, I didn't know they were going to go over the top of me. Well, he admits he's not being the journalist anymore. Now he's being the analyst. That's what I wanted to say. He's never leaving the studio for the, speaking of all day, all night, Fox.
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Speaker 1: Night, all day.
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Speaker 3: Where are these stories that we're trying to cover? Where are the stories? I haven't seen any of the stories.
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Speaker 1: Oh, that's too good. Well, I'll have to ask him at five 30. I saw that on Monday.
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Speaker 3: I think I texted. No, I told you about it during the day. I was going to text you, but it was just too good. It was too good. And now I feel like I did fail.
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Speaker 2: It is literally the same tone of voice he used for his retirement stuff.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 4: Right?
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's the same tone. Like, why did I do it? Oh, this is why I did it. This is who I am. Well, here, let's just... What a life.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, play a little bit of the retirement one. The inflections are the same.
00:42:21
Speaker 1: What kind of legacy do I leave? I just did the best job I could. Oh, it's too good. And then there's this.
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Speaker 4: How does it feel to be back? This is something I feel like I need to do. What kind of legacy do I leave? I just did the best job I could.
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Speaker 1: So in both cases, he asked a question and then answered his own question.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Correct. He's the journalist apparently for himself, but he's also the subject.
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Speaker 2: Saw the entire Giants game, play after play. He came in and the defense played a prevent. Any kind of pressure and he wasn't going to be able to do what he wanted. His next opponent will study his habits. He'll probably have the same result as the Vikings did. Man, people are working overtime. They just can't handle it.
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Speaker 1: And they still continue to, I now believe, deliberately miss the point, which isn't that anybody should be ready to turn over anything offensively.
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Speaker 2: To this quarterback. But that's a completely different subject. Has anyone ever had the conversation that KOC holds back quarterbacks? Quarterbacks that are under his command don't do all that well. As soon as they go elsewhere, they become household names.
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Speaker 1: Why would that be?
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Speaker 2: Dan, I get the excitement to see how this McCarthy saga will turn out. But as you always say, let's let the story play out.
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Speaker 1: We are! We haven't said anything different than that. Yes, we know.
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Speaker 2: He was great in the first fourth quarter against the Bears. And then what happened the rest of the time? It didn't go very, very well.
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Speaker 1: Yes, we know. You're not telling us anything we don't know, but you're still changing the subject, or as they say in the business, it's something Mace used to do all the time. Moving the goalposts. Really? Yeah, he was a big moving the goalpost guy. He was, huh? Interesting.
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Speaker 2: Like, you know, he'd demand something, you'd give it to him, and then he'd just move the goalpost.
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Speaker 1: Say, we need something else. That's not really what I meant or what I was referring to. I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Currently, it's, I need a key card, and then it's, well, I can't get in, I'm at the wrong door. The goalposts were moved. But yet, he still got in. I need some clarification.
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Speaker 1: Is someone who refuses to start a preseason game still eligible to be called a gamer? I still think that was the deciding factor in letting JJ come. May have been. It may have been, but I'll say again, we're frauds on the subject.
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Speaker 2: I've even called out the Jackals on this. We mock and ridicule preseason football endlessly. And then we're going to state, basically, we're going to draw a grand conclusion on the toughness and commitment of a player to Because he didn't want to, like, jump right back in with superficial blood clots to a preseason game?
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Speaker 1: We're all frauds on this stuff. Let's make this the top.
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Speaker 2: Of the hour break and prepare for mace in your face.
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