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You gotta get the annoying noises out of the way.
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That's the mm hmmm.
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I don't believe in AMR.
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I don't know.
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I just don't get it.
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I thought it was just a thing. I didn't think
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it was like.
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I don't I'm like, I think it's a sex thing.
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I think it's a veiled sex thing.
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Bailed sex.
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I thought it was relaxing.
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Well, yeah, but that's what I think. It's kind of
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veiled that it's like more of like a sexual sensation thing.
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My kink is like, you know, not mine, but like
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somebody's kink not mine. Eat a biscuit right next.
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To their oh my god, right transition.
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They're like, crunch, crunch, crunch, right in my ear, and
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you're like, was that a British bisket.
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Or we want to find out.
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This is white noise?
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Why?
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Like, I'm Michael Jedson, Barry, I'm Chelsea Jacobson.
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And Ryan Wilder and uh yeah, we're gonna we're gonna
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talk each Ryan and I're gonna talk for ten minutes
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about biscuits this episode.
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Each episode's a different topic.
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Yeah, ten minutes.
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Last time it was based on symmetry. The Winner The
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other times are based on what you learned.
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Yeah, very no criteria in particular in terms of taking
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a winner.
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Yeah.
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And it's white noise because we're three white people talking.
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About random random thing comes from talking without meaning.
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Is just noise? That is true. Yeah.
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Although you, I will say, right, you've done many meaningful
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bs like I've learned a lot from you.
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Same, thank you. Yeah, I'm learning.
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I'm more just like maybe we should hang babies outside
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of windows, but we're growing, Like, let me talk to
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you about botany.
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Like both are valid, most valid? Thank you.
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Okay, Wait, so who's gonna start with BISQUI today?
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I went first, last time, you go for this time? Okay,
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it's back and forth. It's a good like.
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Okay, and when I do you want to sure, I
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will go for ocus. Oh my time started? No, no,
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I can oh sure, let's let's do it. Let's just
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die and ten minutes starts now, okay.
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Biscuits was tough for me because my first instinct was
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just like I love biscuits. Yeah, and I almost just
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kind of stopped there. I was sort of I was like,
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I can talk at length about biscuits, and then I
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literally walked into the studio and what I can't talk
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about length talk at length about biscuits because so you can't.
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I can, and I'm going to because so that's my
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like my desert island thing. When people are like desert
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island food, what is it minus biscuits and gravy. I
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could live on biscuits with like white sausage gravy. And honestly,
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one of the first things I think of now when
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I think of the best biscuits and gravy in the world,
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I think of you, Ryan, because you make spectacular sausage gravy,
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like you make a lot of very good gravies. And
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I could eat gravy with a spoon, like really any
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gravy I could bathe in it. I would be happy.
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It could be in my pars and I you know,
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I I just I love gravy. I'm a weirdo like that.
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And yours is.
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Out of this world, thank you.
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And there's one time when Ryan was out of town
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and he was very I went to dog sit for him,
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and you were very lovely and left Pillsbury biscuits, which
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doesn't mean I hadn't had women forever, and I forgot
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about the pure satisfaction when you pop that can a
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start whatever that is like when on wine.
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It gives me a little anxiety at first because I'm like,
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you start to pull it back and you're like, is
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it gonna pop? Or am I gonna have to hit it?
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And then if it pops on you when you don't
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expect it, it's so exciting that jump.
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Oh, it's the same.
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It's it's the same gratification I get from watching like
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Doctor Pimple Popper Instagram.
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It's that same.
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Like, wait, since its at ASMR, it's.
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A I don't think that's ASMR, though.
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I think is kind of different.
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Oh, that's true. It's it's like the anticipation. It's it's
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the anticipation and then the like I can't tell what's
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more satisfying, the pop or it's like a great Hitchcock
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film with after work And then I.
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Want to share something. Did you know that they sell
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those Pillsbury I found this out this week by the
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way that they sell these biscuits. They sell the biscuits
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in a bag, so why in the pre formed thing?
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But the thing is they actually bake better from the bag.
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They look more like a biscuit when they finish because
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they have impact on each other.
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But again you don't have the satisfaction of also like
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peeling the dough apart, which is also a really nice
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part of it. When they're they're sort of like doughey selves.
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sort of like very get new. They make that little
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sound when you peel them apart, and then you watch
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them bake and they're so golden and beautiful. And then
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after so you left those, so I'm just I'm getting
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like clemped over here.
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And it was a magical experience.
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Like Michael, do you need a minute, I might need
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to go dab for a second, Like I get a
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little like it's a getting warm in here. So you
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left me Peelsbury biscuits. And then this I mean this
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when I tell you that the sausage is gravy that
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you made and left for me, and it had sat
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for a second, so I heat it up. It was
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a religious experience, like I I ate that for two
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days and I was thrilled. Parts of my body weren't,
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but my soul was so fulfilled and warm and fault so.
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I I just was seven. I made it. I tasted
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a little bit before we went. I was like, oh,
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this is a good one.
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Oh you listen. It was amazing. After that, I was like,
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I will dog sit for you anytime.
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Any day. It was actually made with wild boar sausage too.
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Yeah, good stuff. So so I.
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Was like, why do was it so good? I think
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that was part of it.
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That was it shout out to wild war Sausage, feel
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free to sponsor us.
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So that's what I think of you.
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And it brings me back to the first time I
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ever had Southern proper like southern biscuits and gravy when
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I was a little kid, because neither my parents could cook.
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Famously, my parents can't cook. Actually my mom can't.
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She just didn't until after I was in my twenties
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and then all of a sudden she couldn't. She's like, yeah,
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I just never a time when you were young.
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Thanks.
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What a reveal is all those microwaveable chicken paw pies,
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so my uncle.
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I mean to be fair, they're amazing.
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I'm not complaining that.
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So when I first tasted, when my life changed, I
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will never forget. It's one of those meals you know
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when you eat something and it just like, when I
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close my eyes, I.
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Am back there, yea.
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And it was my uncle was a fireman in New
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York and he was dating this woman named Terry Sire.
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She's from Tennessee. She was a dancer from Tennessee and
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she beautiful, blonde, like a dope woman, was really thick
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Tennessee accent. And I came down to New York for
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my tenth birthday to see my first Broadway show ever
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because I was a little kid after and he was like,
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going to take me to any show I want. He
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took me to Victor Victoria. I get to pick it
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because Mary Poppins Julie Andrews was starring in it, and
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Mary Poppins as a kid, I can still say Doosha,
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Sally expistic, tragic, Kellie Rupus And in Victor Victoria, he
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was like, I don't know, this is the best show
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for a ten year old because it's like based on
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the nineteen eighties movie if you've never seen it, great movie,
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such Amer. She played like a woman pretending to be
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men pretending to be a woman. There's this whole drag
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guess back, but very funny.
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Great movie. Victor Victoria. I highly recommend it.
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I watched it recently, holds up one of those comedies
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from the eighties that you're like, and it does.
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I've never seen it. Now I'm going to watch it.
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So Julian Andrews was nominated for an Oscar for it.
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Blake Edwards, her husband directed it, who did the Pink
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Panther movies, and like, it's a great sort of mad
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cap comedy but about like drag queens in Paris in
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the nineteen twenties.
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Cool.
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Yeah, it's and it's handled in a way such that it.
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Like still holds it kind of works, like even though
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it's like a straight woman pretending to be a drag queen,
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it's somehow still is like PC like.
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Fine, yeah, it's just like handle and it's sophisticated way
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where it's like it works.
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So yeah, and the comedy is spot on. So we
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went and saw that it was amazing, and then so
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Terry took us backstage and then the next day, to
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cap off this spectacular weekend, she made me biscuits and gravy.
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We're in my uncle's apartment in stuves In Town and
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I was like, well, I love gravy, and she's like, well,
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have you ever had breakfast gravy And I was like,
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gravy for.
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Breakfast on Murda, it should only be dark brown and
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go on turkey and potatoes and you know.
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And she's like, no, you can have it for breakfast.
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And so she made it for me and it was
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like and she did it like her way, and she
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would never eat it. She's a ballet dancer. So she
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took it like a tiny bite and she was like,
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that's all for me. But her mom was like a
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big like Tennessee like southern woman, and so she made
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her mom's recipe and I saw, I took one bite
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and my life changed and it was just magical. So
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that's that biscuit story. So whenever I think of biscuits,
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it's you, and it's Terry Siyer and she's a lot
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of instructor living in Florida now and I go take
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her class if you're in Florida.
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But then, also, so what changed? What again? Though confused me?
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Is as a kid.
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Also, I loved Eddie Izzard because I have British humor
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and he often would talk about like biscuits are like
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Jemmy dojas and I was like, what is this? And
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that was when I learned how biscuits originally are not
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our biscuits, right, since the real biscuits are British biscuits. Well, really,
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they date back to the Romans who made them out
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of Roman husk. And technically the first ever biscuit was
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like a small or it was a small crunchy snack basically,
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like it seems like it was the earliest foods. Yeah, early,
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they date back to the Neolithic era. They were little
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cakes or porges that were flat and crisp. And the
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term biscuit is French biskie, which just refers to bread
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that has been twice cooked twice. But yeah, yeah, so yeah,
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so really like I feel like we look at British
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cookies and we're like, that's a cookie.
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They're like, nor it's Biskish, it's a cookie, it's Beskish.
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And to be fair, they're right because that was the earliest.
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I didn't realize that they went back that far. And
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then like the biscuits that we know in love, much
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like many things came from the Victorian era, like the
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wackado things of the Victorians, which which was so wonderfully crazy,
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but that's technically called the boom time for biscuit. The
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boom time I know is that great boom time had
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a boom time?
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Was it in the twenties and it was in the
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nineteenth century biscuits well everywhere, Oh my god. According to
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the English Heritage website, boom time for biscuits began, and
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that's when they started to play with them and they
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would add ice cream or fruit or nuts, and that's
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when they would like incorporate them into other like deserty
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things and make them sweep. And that's when the pettiphoor
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became a thing. And pettifo literally just means small oven.
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But that's when biscuits were cooked. That's when they made
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the biscuit that we don't love, basically where they were
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cooked at a higher temperature and cut into intricate.
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Cool little shapes.
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And if you go to the English Heritage website and
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just like read about the history of biscuits, it is
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very fun. What I'm sure you and I had a
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feeling you were going to go this route as well,
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and sort of like how shipping changed them a little bit,
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and how like what changed when sugar became more readily
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available because obviously, like sugar at a time was a
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luxury and then that all changed, and I feel like
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the biscuit helped change that to make sugar a little
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bit more accessible. And if you're going to go into that,
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then I can do a fun, quick little tangent.
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Go for it.
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About thirty seconds. Oh, Italy and.
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Why one town in Italy has the most boring bread
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ever because they were fighting with Florence has horrible bread
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because back in the day they fought with Pisa because
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Pisa had all the salt, and then Pizza wouldn't give
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their salt to Florence, and then Florence had to make
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unsalted bread, which they do to this day because they
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hold grudges.
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That's very Italian, Yeah, very unsalt and bread. Yeah.
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And it's horrible if you go to Florence. That's why
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you need oil and all that other stuff, because the
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bread has literally no flavor. Wow, because they to this day.
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I'm still angry with Pizza for hoarding all the salt.
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Wow.
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I would have gotten over there, and.
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I didn't think I was going to get there with
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biscuit talk right in time. Here we are right in time.
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So sorry that that was really and all over the
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mapstream of consciousness as to just what biscuits make me
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think of, because the core thing Ryan is now, they
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just make me think of you, very fluttered and I
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could just sing the praises of your biscuits and gravy
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all day long, but I needed to throw some factoids
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there because in.
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The boom time of biscuits, the boom time of biscuits
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is now, and it is in your kitchen.
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I look forward to making it for you again.
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Thank you, I lovely.
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Yes, Okay, Ryan, are you ready?
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Yeah, I'm ready.
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Okay, your ten minutes starts now.
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So I immediately went into the whole British thing like that.
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It was very easy, right, And I have some other
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kind of like fun factoids around it, a building off
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of like what you were sharing. I had the twice
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baked thing. It was medieval Muslims that actually made the
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first sweet biscuits and they used fake so they were
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really like the first fig Newton.
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Oh fig, not a cookie, it's a Newton. Remember those
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fruit and cake.
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Oh you're again to be young. Give these amazing commercials
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for figs for cookie. It's not a cookie, it's a
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new And they always said it like that Newton.
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Right, Oh, yeah, okay, Oh yeah, delicious.
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Okay, so they were crunchy fig newtons.
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I said, really, the strawberry fic newtons. Do you guys
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remember those?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, they were delicious.
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Delicious, that's true love. Biscuit. National Biscuit Day is May
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twenty ninth. Oh very exciting, y I the British actually,
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and this is like the most British written thing ever,
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movie for biscuits. They created biscuits for breath Fresh and
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they were extremely good at suppressing vapors from rising. Oh yeah,
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so I guess not belching or burping.
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Oh they were likely Thomas.
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Yes, so keeping vapors from rising, and it was they
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were done with Annis, so yeah, it would be about
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right right. Yeah. And then I ended up in this
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like weird little rabbit hole about Guy Fawkes.
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I okay, I love Guy fox Day. I think it's
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really interesting.
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Is it Fox? Am I saying it right? Yeah? Fox Day,
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Guy fox Day. So Guy Fox is the gentleman who
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in sixteen something or other intended on blowing up British Parliament.
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Oh and he is.
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Also the face that's the basis for the v for
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Bendetta face Scottish and anonymous.
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Yeah, like a Scottish revolutionary.
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That's I believe, that's right. Yeah, And gingerbread cookies and
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gingerbread men are based upon him.
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They come from Guy Fox.
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There Guy, They're supposed to be Guy Fox. And it
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was so hottest sense could show their support by eating
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the papist fill in.
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Oh wow.
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Well because every year on Guy Fox Day, which is
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a big holiday in the UK, they burn effigies of him. Yeah,
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because he was publicly executed, became a national holiday.
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And that's why there's and gingerbread cookies or gingerbread men
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are passed out.
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He must have because I love ginger Man.
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I love you ginger Man.
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I'm not gonna lie.
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But gingerbread in general too great wious.
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Yeah wow, I didn't know that that was because of him,
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but it was kind of a fun I was like, wow,
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that is a fun fact, and I didn't know that
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that was the connection.
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So it is such a burn to like make cookies
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of your enemies and eat them.
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And because they watched me eat your head.
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Did they light them on fire?
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Yeah?
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Maybe they burned him at stake.
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I didn't go too into Guy back then. Yeah, yeah,
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but yeah, I thought that was kind of kind of
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cool and then oh the other kind of fun thing.
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I didn't know this. I don't know if anyone had
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this experience. But it's also tradition, let's call generic British tradition,
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so across the entire United Kingdom to apparently leave biscuits
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next to a dead body or on a dead body,
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and you eat the biscuits as a way of consuming
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the person who's died sins. Have you heard this sounds? Yeah,
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so that they go onto their afterlife.
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With selfless move Yeah, what if nobody eats your biscuits?
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Well I was going to say, I need a full
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room of fucking cookies.
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Yeah, people, you need a bakery. But a sin eater
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is a thing like there's like a it's like a trope,
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I guess, like a village sin eater like that there
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were people in villages that that ate the sins for
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the whole village. So like eating sins is a Christian.
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Thing from what I understood, So it was like that
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was part of also part of tradition.
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Huh, you don't want to eat stuff around dead body.
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I'm just gonna throw that out there. Yeah, that's usually
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like a bad colhoba. It was like a plate or
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like yeah.
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Like I just think that's a bad tradition to be, like,
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let's consume things around dead bodies.
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Like that's not If it.
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Was me, I would put it in my writing that
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they'd be held in my hands.
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In the casket.
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Ooh, it's like, can you can you assure me only sins?
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I'm biscuits?
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A little sign, a little sign in my face, eat
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my biscuit.
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Oh no, oh my god, gross.
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I love this.
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I'm going to do this anyway, have my delicious sin,
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but it's going to be in.
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The mushroom suit. So yeah, mushrooms will eat my sins.
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Yeah, yeah, the mushrooms will eat your sins in your biscuit.
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So and then so kind of reading about led me
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then Okay, how do we get to the US biscuit
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or the American biscuit?
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I was so hoping you were going to talk about that.
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Yeah, it's well, it's you know, it's it's actually it's
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really interesting and like many things in America built on
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on Yeah. Yeah, So the original the original biscuit that
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came across was very like British, very like it was
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like a cracker, you know, done to preserve something for
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an extended period of time. But it was discovered that
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if you beat the ship out of the dough, you
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would ultimately put air into it. And it took over
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an hour of beating the shit out of the dough
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to get it. So guests who was tasked with doing it, Yeah, right,
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So that's also why biscuits have a bit of heritage
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into black culture into the United States. Right. The other thing,
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the other kind of connecting point in this kind of
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same vein were pullman porters. So pullman pullman trains were
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the fancy trains that people rode on to go from
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point A to point B, and the porters were the
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gentlemen and traditionally black gentleman who not only cared for
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the passengers but cooked the meals for the passengers. Named
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Carl Smith, who is a salesman for like a milling company,
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like a like flour and whatever else, was on a
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train and his porter. He had gotten on the train
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late or something and asked the porter to make some
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food for him. Guy runs to the back, makes an
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American style biscuit, so like one that rises, brings it out.
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He thinks it's amazing and he's like, how did you
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do this so quickly? And the porter says, well, actually
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I pre mixed all of the dry ingredients together and
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keep them in the freezer and then just add I
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add the milk and then it goes real quick. So
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this guy being in the industry realizes that there's an opportunity.
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So now like this is where you get pre made
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biscuit mix and bis Quick and Jiffy and all of
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these things where you just buy the ingredients in a
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bag and the liquid and then you get yeah.
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Cool.
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Because of this one Pullman Porter.
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Pullman Porter had the idea first Yeah wow, I thought
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was pretty cool, super cool. And apparently the whole like
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generation of biscuits in the South was interlinked to the
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fact that there was a high abundance of everything. So
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it was high abundance of wheat, high abundance of cows
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for milk, pork lard for leavening, and the availability of sugar,
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which kind of led to the whole like moving away
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from yeast and instead using oh and baking powder became
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readily available. That was the other big move for making
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a good biscuit was having baking powder.
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Cool.
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So, like I got through all that and I'm like, yeah,
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so I definitely got into like my love of biscuits
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and like where it comes from and the interlinking back right,
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and how much time do I have to you.
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Have two minutes on the stop?
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Perfect? So do either of you have either of you
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ever been to a Heartise?
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No?
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No, are you familiar with Hardies?
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Is it like a truck fast food?
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It's like a McDonald's. Okay, yeah, it's in the same
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vein as like a McDonald's or a Burger King or
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a Wendy I've never heard. And a smaller chain and
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definitely southern chain, so we had. I grew up in
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kind of southwest what I was born in southwest Virginia,
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but grow grew up in northern Virginia, and we would
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obviously travel down to Sea Familey and whatever else. And
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there was a Hearty's at the Woodstock exit on eighty
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one that we used to frequent and stop at. Now
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this actually I ended up learning about this post BacT
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I didn't know there was a relationship to my love
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of biscuits and Hardy's and whatever else until I discovered this.
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But Harty's in the seventies was actually struggling the chain
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and a franchise owner whose name was his first name
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was Mayo, and I wrote that down because I love
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Mayo too.
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With you, yeah, not with my gravy on my biscuits,
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but independently.
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Yeah, give me a good Mayo sylad any sword. Yeah.
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And so he was at an eatery and had a
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biscuit for breakfast and he's like, this is a really
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good idea and decided to give it a try at
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his franchise in Virginia Beach. So Hardy started in I
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think seventy seven selling breakfast biscuits, and as of twenty eighteen,
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and I don't know what it is post COVID, now
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fifty percent of Hardy's revenue was driven by biscuit related.
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Wow meals biscuit business.
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So Hearty's taking care biscuits, care biscuits every day, take
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care of bus.
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Yeah okay. I was quickly trying to work. It was like,
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how do we get gravy in this gravey?
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Ignore me, just yell it. I'm so sorry.
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I'm so sorry.
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I apologize. So then know, oh my gosh, it's fine.
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So I was I actually almost I almost made cheddar
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Bay Biscuits to bring to us today.
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You didn't.
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I didn't. Well, And what I was going to do
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is go through some of my favorite ones. But my
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favorite thing, one of my favorite things to do back
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in the day was to go to Red Lobster and
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get Manhattan's and Tender Baby biscuits delicious, right, And then
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KFC's biscuits are really good. Cracker barrel sausage, I mean,
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I hate cracker and barrels politics. They should just shut
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the fuck up, But their biscuits and gravy are.
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I think all these kinds of.
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Just just serve your fucking food. Yeah, give me my
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biscuits and gravy, and don't make me think about the
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fact that you're awful sent like focus on your nicknap shop.
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Yeah, ridiculous.
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And then who doesn't love a bacon, egg and cheese
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biscuit from.
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Yeah donald.
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McDonald's, it from any of those places, to be honest,
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But I like biscuits.
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I've explored every industrial bad for your basket.
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That there is, Oh well, yeah, and I love them
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all there is in a favor, there isn't a standout.
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I mean, Cheddarbay biscuits with Manhattan's might actually, Yeah, Red
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Lobster's got the got that down, yep.
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But they learned so much about the history of biscuits
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from me. You just learned about everything history with biscuits.
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But I also learned about the boom time for biscuits
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for a long time, biscuits, boom time for biscuits. Okay,
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the roaring biscuit days, Yes, glory days for biscuits. Okay,
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Ryan takes this one.
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Yeah, congrats, Are you serious? Yeah, there's no other that
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had to be YEA learned so much about biscuits. Thank you,
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and you make me think of biscuits.
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Yeah, doing something right in life. My mom My, mom's proud.
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Yes, they are really good. Okay, I have to think
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about something.
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Okay.
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Our next word is going to be velcrow oh velcraw speak.
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M R just going to be me because I love that.
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People will like it.
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That's why SMRs.
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Some people will get mildly aroused from that.
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Yes, right, so again, I think SMR is just an
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arousal thing.
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I like people like.
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I like the noises make me feel warm.
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I'm like, what is that reminds me of my favorite shoes.
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Sketchers, the Belco Sketchers, the Big White Ones, Yeah, I'm
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the shoes with Belcrow whatever.
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I want them back. Oh so great, that's why grabbing go.
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My god.
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Okay, I'm excited to learn more about Crow for me
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and gentlemen, I'm excited
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And that's it.
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You gotta get the annoying noises out of the way.
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That's the mm hmmm.
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I don't believe in AMR.
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I don't know.
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I just don't get it.
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I thought it was just a thing. I didn't think
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it was like.
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I don't I'm like, I think it's a sex thing.
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I think it's a veiled sex thing.
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Bailed sex.
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I thought it was relaxing.
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veiled that it's like more of like a sexual sensation thing.
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My kink is like, you know, not mine, but like
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somebody's kink not mine. Eat a biscuit right next.
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To their oh my god, right transition.
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They're like, crunch, crunch, crunch, right in my ear, and
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you're like, was that a British bisket.
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Or we want to find out.
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This is white noise?
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Why?
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Like, I'm Michael Jedson, Barry, I'm Chelsea Jacobson.
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And Ryan Wilder and uh yeah, we're gonna we're gonna
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talk each Ryan and I're gonna talk for ten minutes
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about biscuits this episode.
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Each episode's a different topic.
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Yeah, ten minutes.
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Last time it was based on symmetry. The Winner The
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other times are based on what you learned.
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Yeah, very no criteria in particular in terms of taking
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a winner.
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Yeah.
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And it's white noise because we're three white people talking.
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About random random thing comes from talking without meaning.
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Is just noise? That is true. Yeah.
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Although you, I will say, right, you've done many meaningful
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bs like I've learned a lot from you.
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Same, thank you. Yeah, I'm learning.
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I'm more just like maybe we should hang babies outside
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of windows, but we're growing, Like, let me talk to
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you about botany.
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Like both are valid, most valid? Thank you.
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Okay, Wait, so who's gonna start with BISQUI today?
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I went first, last time, you go for this time? Okay,
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it's back and forth. It's a good like.
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Okay, and when I do you want to sure, I
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will go for ocus. Oh my time started? No, no,
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I can oh sure, let's let's do it. Let's just
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die and ten minutes starts now, okay.
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Biscuits was tough for me because my first instinct was
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just like I love biscuits. Yeah, and I almost just
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kind of stopped there. I was sort of I was like,
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I can talk at length about biscuits, and then I
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literally walked into the studio and what I can't talk
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about length talk at length about biscuits because so you can't.
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I can, and I'm going to because so that's my
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like my desert island thing. When people are like desert
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island food, what is it minus biscuits and gravy. I
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could live on biscuits with like white sausage gravy. And honestly,
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one of the first things I think of now when
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I think of the best biscuits and gravy in the world,
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I think of you, Ryan, because you make spectacular sausage gravy,
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like you make a lot of very good gravies. And
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I could eat gravy with a spoon, like really any
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gravy I could bathe in it. I would be happy.
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It could be in my pars and I you know,
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I I just I love gravy. I'm a weirdo like that.
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And yours is.
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Out of this world, thank you.
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And there's one time when Ryan was out of town
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and he was very I went to dog sit for him,
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and you were very lovely and left Pillsbury biscuits, which
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doesn't mean I hadn't had women forever, and I forgot
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about the pure satisfaction when you pop that can a
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start whatever that is like when on wine.
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you start to pull it back and you're like, is
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it gonna pop? Or am I gonna have to hit it?
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expect it, it's so exciting that jump.
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It's it's the same gratification I get from watching like
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Doctor Pimple Popper Instagram.
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It's that same.
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I think is kind of different.
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the anticipation and then the like I can't tell what's
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more satisfying, the pop or it's like a great Hitchcock
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film with after work And then I.
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Want to share something. Did you know that they sell
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those Pillsbury I found this out this week by the
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way that they sell these biscuits. They sell the biscuits
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in a bag, so why in the pre formed thing?
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But the thing is they actually bake better from the bag.
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They look more like a biscuit when they finish because
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they have impact on each other.
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peeling the dough apart, which is also a really nice
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part of it. When they're they're sort of like doughey selves.
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sort of like very get new. They make that little
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sound when you peel them apart, and then you watch
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them bake and they're so golden and beautiful. And then
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after so you left those, so I'm just I'm getting
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like clemped over here.
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Like Michael, do you need a minute, I might need
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to go dab for a second, Like I get a
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little like it's a getting warm in here. So you
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left me Peelsbury biscuits. And then this I mean this
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when I tell you that the sausage is gravy that
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you made and left for me, and it had sat
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for a second, so I heat it up. It was
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a religious experience, like I I ate that for two
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days and I was thrilled. Parts of my body weren't,
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but my soul was so fulfilled and warm and fault so.
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I I just was seven. I made it. I tasted
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a little bit before we went. I was like, oh,
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this is a good one.
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Oh you listen. It was amazing. After that, I was like,
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I will dog sit for you anytime.
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Any day. It was actually made with wild boar sausage too.
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that was part of it.
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That was it shout out to wild war Sausage, feel
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free to sponsor us.
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So that's what I think of you.
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ever had Southern proper like southern biscuits and gravy when
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I was a little kid, because neither my parents could cook.
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Famously, my parents can't cook. Actually my mom can't.
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She just didn't until after I was in my twenties
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and then all of a sudden she couldn't. She's like, yeah,
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I just never a time when you were young.
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Thanks.
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What a reveal is all those microwaveable chicken paw pies,
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so my uncle.
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I mean to be fair, they're amazing.
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I'm not complaining that.
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So when I first tasted, when my life changed, I
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will never forget. It's one of those meals you know
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when you eat something and it just like, when I
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close my eyes, I.
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Am back there, yea.
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York and he was dating this woman named Terry Sire.
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She's from Tennessee. She was a dancer from Tennessee and
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she beautiful, blonde, like a dope woman, was really thick
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Tennessee accent. And I came down to New York for
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my tenth birthday to see my first Broadway show ever
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because I was a little kid after and he was like,
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going to take me to any show I want. He
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took me to Victor Victoria. I get to pick it
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because Mary Poppins Julie Andrews was starring in it, and
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Mary Poppins as a kid, I can still say Doosha,
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Sally expistic, tragic, Kellie Rupus And in Victor Victoria, he
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was like, I don't know, this is the best show
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for a ten year old because it's like based on
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the nineteen eighties movie if you've never seen it, great movie,
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such Amer. She played like a woman pretending to be
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men pretending to be a woman. There's this whole drag
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guess back, but very funny.
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Great movie. Victor Victoria. I highly recommend it.
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I watched it recently, holds up one of those comedies
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from the eighties that you're like, and it does.
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I've never seen it. Now I'm going to watch it.
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So Julian Andrews was nominated for an Oscar for it.
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Blake Edwards, her husband directed it, who did the Pink
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Panther movies, and like, it's a great sort of mad
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cap comedy but about like drag queens in Paris in
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the nineteen twenties.
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Cool.
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Like still holds it kind of works, like even though
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it's like a straight woman pretending to be a drag queen,
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it's somehow still is like PC like.
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where it's like it works.
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So yeah, and the comedy is spot on. So we
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went and saw that it was amazing, and then so
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Terry took us backstage and then the next day, to
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cap off this spectacular weekend, she made me biscuits and gravy.
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We're in my uncle's apartment in stuves In Town and
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I was like, well, I love gravy, and she's like, well,
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have you ever had breakfast gravy And I was like,
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gravy for.
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Breakfast on Murda, it should only be dark brown and
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go on turkey and potatoes and you know.
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And she's like, no, you can have it for breakfast.
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And so she made it for me and it was
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like and she did it like her way, and she
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would never eat it. She's a ballet dancer. So she
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took it like a tiny bite and she was like,
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that's all for me. But her mom was like a
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big like Tennessee like southern woman, and so she made
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her mom's recipe and I saw, I took one bite
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and my life changed and it was just magical. So
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that's that biscuit story. So whenever I think of biscuits,
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it's you, and it's Terry Siyer and she's a lot
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of instructor living in Florida now and I go take
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her class if you're in Florida.
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But then, also, so what changed? What again? Though confused me?
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Is as a kid.
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and he often would talk about like biscuits are like
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Jemmy dojas and I was like, what is this? And
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that was when I learned how biscuits originally are not
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our biscuits, right, since the real biscuits are British biscuits. Well, really,
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they date back to the Romans who made them out
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of Roman husk. And technically the first ever biscuit was
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like a small or it was a small crunchy snack basically,
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like it seems like it was the earliest foods. Yeah, early,
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they date back to the Neolithic era. They were little
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cakes or porges that were flat and crisp. And the
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term biscuit is French biskie, which just refers to bread
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that has been twice cooked twice. But yeah, yeah, so yeah,
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so really like I feel like we look at British
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cookies and we're like, that's a cookie.
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They're like, nor it's Biskish, it's a cookie, it's Beskish.
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And to be fair, they're right because that was the earliest.
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I didn't realize that they went back that far. And
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then like the biscuits that we know in love, much
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like many things came from the Victorian era, like the
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wackado things of the Victorians, which which was so wonderfully crazy,
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but that's technically called the boom time for biscuit. The
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boom time I know is that great boom time had
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a boom time?
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Was it in the twenties and it was in the
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nineteenth century biscuits well everywhere, Oh my god. According to
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the English Heritage website, boom time for biscuits began, and
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that's when they started to play with them and they
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would add ice cream or fruit or nuts, and that's
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when they would like incorporate them into other like deserty
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things and make them sweep. And that's when the pettiphoor
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became a thing. And pettifo literally just means small oven.
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the biscuit that we don't love, basically where they were
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cooked at a higher temperature and cut into intricate.
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Cool little shapes.
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just like read about the history of biscuits, it is
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very fun. What I'm sure you and I had a
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feeling you were going to go this route as well,
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and sort of like how shipping changed them a little bit,
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and how like what changed when sugar became more readily
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available because obviously, like sugar at a time was a
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luxury and then that all changed, and I feel like
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the biscuit helped change that to make sugar a little
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bit more accessible. And if you're going to go into that,
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then I can do a fun, quick little tangent.
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Go for it.
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About thirty seconds. Oh, Italy and.
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Why one town in Italy has the most boring bread
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ever because they were fighting with Florence has horrible bread
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because back in the day they fought with Pisa because
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Pisa had all the salt, and then Pizza wouldn't give
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their salt to Florence, and then Florence had to make
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unsalted bread, which they do to this day because they
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hold grudges.
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That's very Italian, Yeah, very unsalt and bread. Yeah.
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And it's horrible if you go to Florence. That's why
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you need oil and all that other stuff, because the
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bread has literally no flavor. Wow, because they to this day.
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I'm still angry with Pizza for hoarding all the salt.
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I would have gotten over there, and.
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I didn't think I was going to get there with
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biscuit talk right in time. Here we are right in time.
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So sorry that that was really and all over the
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mapstream of consciousness as to just what biscuits make me
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think of, because the core thing Ryan is now, they
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just make me think of you, very fluttered and I
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could just sing the praises of your biscuits and gravy
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all day long, but I needed to throw some factoids
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there because in.
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The boom time of biscuits, the boom time of biscuits
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is now, and it is in your kitchen.
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I look forward to making it for you again.
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Thank you, I lovely.
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Yes, Okay, Ryan, are you ready?
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Yeah, I'm ready.
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Okay, your ten minutes starts now.
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So I immediately went into the whole British thing like that.
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It was very easy, right, And I have some other
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kind of like fun factoids around it, a building off
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of like what you were sharing. I had the twice
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baked thing. It was medieval Muslims that actually made the
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first sweet biscuits and they used fake so they were
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really like the first fig Newton.
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Oh fig, not a cookie, it's a Newton. Remember those
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fruit and cake.
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Oh you're again to be young. Give these amazing commercials
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for figs for cookie. It's not a cookie, it's a
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new And they always said it like that Newton.
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Right, Oh, yeah, okay, Oh yeah, delicious.
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Okay, so they were crunchy fig newtons.
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I said, really, the strawberry fic newtons. Do you guys
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remember those?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, they were delicious.
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Delicious, that's true love. Biscuit. National Biscuit Day is May
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twenty ninth. Oh very exciting, y I the British actually,
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and this is like the most British written thing ever,
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movie for biscuits. They created biscuits for breath Fresh and
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they were extremely good at suppressing vapors from rising. Oh yeah,
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so I guess not belching or burping.
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Oh they were likely Thomas.
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Yes, so keeping vapors from rising, and it was they
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were done with Annis, so yeah, it would be about
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right right. Yeah. And then I ended up in this
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like weird little rabbit hole about Guy Fawkes.
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I okay, I love Guy fox Day. I think it's
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really interesting.
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Is it Fox? Am I saying it right? Yeah? Fox Day,
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Guy fox Day. So Guy Fox is the gentleman who
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in sixteen something or other intended on blowing up British Parliament.
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Oh and he is.
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Also the face that's the basis for the v for
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Bendetta face Scottish and anonymous.
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Yeah, like a Scottish revolutionary.
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That's I believe, that's right. Yeah, And gingerbread cookies and
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gingerbread men are based upon him.
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They come from Guy Fox.
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There Guy, They're supposed to be Guy Fox. And it
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was so hottest sense could show their support by eating
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the papist fill in.
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Oh wow.
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Well because every year on Guy Fox Day, which is
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a big holiday in the UK, they burn effigies of him. Yeah,
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because he was publicly executed, became a national holiday.
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And that's why there's and gingerbread cookies or gingerbread men
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are passed out.
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He must have because I love ginger Man.
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I love you ginger Man.
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I'm not gonna lie.
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But gingerbread in general too great wious.
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Yeah wow, I didn't know that that was because of him,
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but it was kind of a fun I was like, wow,
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that is a fun fact, and I didn't know that
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that was the connection.
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So it is such a burn to like make cookies
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of your enemies and eat them.
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And because they watched me eat your head.
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Did they light them on fire?
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Maybe they burned him at stake.
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I didn't go too into Guy back then. Yeah, yeah,
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but yeah, I thought that was kind of kind of
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cool and then oh the other kind of fun thing.
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I didn't know this. I don't know if anyone had
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this experience. But it's also tradition, let's call generic British tradition,
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so across the entire United Kingdom to apparently leave biscuits
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next to a dead body or on a dead body,
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and you eat the biscuits as a way of consuming
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the person who's died sins. Have you heard this sounds? Yeah,
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so that they go onto their afterlife.
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With selfless move Yeah, what if nobody eats your biscuits?
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Well I was going to say, I need a full
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room of fucking cookies.
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Yeah, people, you need a bakery. But a sin eater
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is a thing like there's like a it's like a trope,
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I guess, like a village sin eater like that there
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were people in villages that that ate the sins for
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the whole village. So like eating sins is a Christian.
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Thing from what I understood, So it was like that
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was part of also part of tradition.
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Huh, you don't want to eat stuff around dead body.
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I'm just gonna throw that out there. Yeah, that's usually
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like a bad colhoba. It was like a plate or
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like yeah.
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Like I just think that's a bad tradition to be, like,
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let's consume things around dead bodies.
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Like that's not If it.
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Was me, I would put it in my writing that
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they'd be held in my hands.
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In the casket.
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Ooh, it's like, can you can you assure me only sins?
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I'm biscuits?
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A little sign, a little sign in my face, eat
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my biscuit.
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Oh no, oh my god, gross.
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I love this.
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I'm going to do this anyway, have my delicious sin,
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but it's going to be in.
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The mushroom suit. So yeah, mushrooms will eat my sins.
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Yeah, yeah, the mushrooms will eat your sins in your biscuit.
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So and then so kind of reading about led me
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then Okay, how do we get to the US biscuit
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or the American biscuit?
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I was so hoping you were going to talk about that.
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Yeah, it's well, it's you know, it's it's actually it's
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really interesting and like many things in America built on
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on Yeah. Yeah, So the original the original biscuit that
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came across was very like British, very like it was
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like a cracker, you know, done to preserve something for
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an extended period of time. But it was discovered that
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if you beat the ship out of the dough, you
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would ultimately put air into it. And it took over
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an hour of beating the shit out of the dough
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to get it. So guests who was tasked with doing it, Yeah, right,
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So that's also why biscuits have a bit of heritage
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into black culture into the United States. Right. The other thing,
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the other kind of connecting point in this kind of
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same vein were pullman porters. So pullman pullman trains were
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the fancy trains that people rode on to go from
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point A to point B, and the porters were the
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gentlemen and traditionally black gentleman who not only cared for
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the passengers but cooked the meals for the passengers. Named
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Carl Smith, who is a salesman for like a milling company,
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like a like flour and whatever else, was on a
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train and his porter. He had gotten on the train
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late or something and asked the porter to make some
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food for him. Guy runs to the back, makes an
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American style biscuit, so like one that rises, brings it out.
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He thinks it's amazing and he's like, how did you
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do this so quickly? And the porter says, well, actually
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I pre mixed all of the dry ingredients together and
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keep them in the freezer and then just add I
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add the milk and then it goes real quick. So
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this guy being in the industry realizes that there's an opportunity.
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So now like this is where you get pre made
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biscuit mix and bis Quick and Jiffy and all of
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these things where you just buy the ingredients in a
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bag and the liquid and then you get yeah.
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Cool.
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Because of this one Pullman Porter.
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Pullman Porter had the idea first Yeah wow, I thought
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was pretty cool, super cool. And apparently the whole like
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generation of biscuits in the South was interlinked to the
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fact that there was a high abundance of everything. So
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it was high abundance of wheat, high abundance of cows
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for milk, pork lard for leavening, and the availability of sugar,
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which kind of led to the whole like moving away
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from yeast and instead using oh and baking powder became
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readily available. That was the other big move for making
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a good biscuit was having baking powder.
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Cool.
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So, like I got through all that and I'm like, yeah,
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so I definitely got into like my love of biscuits
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and like where it comes from and the interlinking back right,
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and how much time do I have to you.
447
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Have two minutes on the stop?
448
00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:53.160
Perfect? So do either of you have either of you
449
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ever been to a Heartise?
450
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No?
451
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No, are you familiar with Hardies?
452
00:20:57.839 --> 00:20:59.960
Is it like a truck fast food?
453
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It's like a McDonald's. Okay, yeah, it's in the same
454
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vein as like a McDonald's or a Burger King or
455
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a Wendy I've never heard. And a smaller chain and
456
00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:12.359
definitely southern chain, so we had. I grew up in
457
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kind of southwest what I was born in southwest Virginia,
458
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but grow grew up in northern Virginia, and we would
459
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obviously travel down to Sea Familey and whatever else. And
460
00:21:20.039 --> 00:21:23.319
there was a Hearty's at the Woodstock exit on eighty
461
00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:26.519
one that we used to frequent and stop at. Now
462
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this actually I ended up learning about this post BacT
463
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I didn't know there was a relationship to my love
464
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of biscuits and Hardy's and whatever else until I discovered this.
465
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But Harty's in the seventies was actually struggling the chain
466
00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:46.640
and a franchise owner whose name was his first name
467
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was Mayo, and I wrote that down because I love
468
00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:49.000
Mayo too.
469
00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:52.240
With you, yeah, not with my gravy on my biscuits,
470
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but independently.
471
00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:57.319
Yeah, give me a good Mayo sylad any sword. Yeah.
472
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And so he was at an eatery and had a
473
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biscuit for breakfast and he's like, this is a really
474
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good idea and decided to give it a try at
475
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his franchise in Virginia Beach. So Hardy started in I
476
00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:16.000
think seventy seven selling breakfast biscuits, and as of twenty eighteen,
477
00:22:16.039 --> 00:22:17.880
and I don't know what it is post COVID, now
478
00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:21.759
fifty percent of Hardy's revenue was driven by biscuit related.
479
00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:24.079
Wow meals biscuit business.
480
00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:32.160
So Hearty's taking care biscuits, care biscuits every day, take
481
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care of bus.
482
00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:38.319
Yeah okay. I was quickly trying to work. It was like,
483
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how do we get gravy in this gravey?
484
00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:46.720
Ignore me, just yell it. I'm so sorry.
485
00:22:46.880 --> 00:22:47.720
I'm so sorry.
486
00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:52.240
I apologize. So then know, oh my gosh, it's fine.
487
00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:57.359
So I was I actually almost I almost made cheddar
488
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Bay Biscuits to bring to us today.
489
00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:01.480
You didn't.
490
00:23:01.559 --> 00:23:03.039
I didn't. Well, And what I was going to do
491
00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:05.000
is go through some of my favorite ones. But my
492
00:23:05.119 --> 00:23:07.079
favorite thing, one of my favorite things to do back
493
00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:08.799
in the day was to go to Red Lobster and
494
00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:14.039
get Manhattan's and Tender Baby biscuits delicious, right, And then
495
00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:19.559
KFC's biscuits are really good. Cracker barrel sausage, I mean,
496
00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:22.079
I hate cracker and barrels politics. They should just shut
497
00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:26.200
the fuck up, But their biscuits and gravy are.
498
00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:27.599
I think all these kinds of.
499
00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:31.599
Just just serve your fucking food. Yeah, give me my
500
00:23:31.640 --> 00:23:33.680
biscuits and gravy, and don't make me think about the
501
00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:38.440
fact that you're awful sent like focus on your nicknap shop.
502
00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:40.079
Yeah, ridiculous.
503
00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:41.680
And then who doesn't love a bacon, egg and cheese
504
00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:42.279
biscuit from.
505
00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:43.119
Yeah donald.
506
00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:47.640
McDonald's, it from any of those places, to be honest,
507
00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:48.720
But I like biscuits.
508
00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:53.640
I've explored every industrial bad for your basket.
509
00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:56.200
That there is, Oh well, yeah, and I love them
510
00:23:56.200 --> 00:23:58.079
all there is in a favor, there isn't a standout.
511
00:23:58.359 --> 00:24:05.119
I mean, Cheddarbay biscuits with Manhattan's might actually, Yeah, Red
512
00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:07.440
Lobster's got the got that down, yep.
513
00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:11.440
But they learned so much about the history of biscuits
514
00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:16.000
from me. You just learned about everything history with biscuits.
515
00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:18.200
But I also learned about the boom time for biscuits
516
00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:25.359
for a long time, biscuits, boom time for biscuits. Okay,
517
00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:32.000
the roaring biscuit days, Yes, glory days for biscuits. Okay,
518
00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:33.680
Ryan takes this one.
519
00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:39.839
Yeah, congrats, Are you serious? Yeah, there's no other that
520
00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:42.920
had to be YEA learned so much about biscuits. Thank you,
521
00:24:43.039 --> 00:24:44.920
and you make me think of biscuits.
522
00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:49.839
Yeah, doing something right in life. My mom My, mom's proud.
523
00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:53.119
Yes, they are really good. Okay, I have to think
524
00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:53.680
about something.
525
00:24:54.680 --> 00:24:54.920
Okay.
526
00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:59.920
Our next word is going to be velcrow oh velcraw speak.
527
00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:06.440
M R just going to be me because I love that.
528
00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:07.599
People will like it.
529
00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:08.960
That's why SMRs.
530
00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:11.640
Some people will get mildly aroused from that.
531
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:14.319
Yes, right, so again, I think SMR is just an
532
00:25:14.359 --> 00:25:15.000
arousal thing.
533
00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:16.240
I like people like.
534
00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:18.839
I like the noises make me feel warm.
535
00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:21.319
I'm like, what is that reminds me of my favorite shoes.
536
00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:28.680
Sketchers, the Belco Sketchers, the Big White Ones, Yeah, I'm
537
00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:29.839
the shoes with Belcrow whatever.
538
00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:37.880
I want them back. Oh so great, that's why grabbing go.
539
00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:39.759
My god.
540
00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:43.000
Okay, I'm excited to learn more about Crow for me
541
00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:44.200
and gentlemen, I'm excited
542
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And that's it.