BREAKING: Tennessee's Botched Execution of Christa Pike

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At 7.34 p.m. last night, inside Riverbend Maximum Security Institution
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here in Nashville, 20 minutes from my house, a 50-year-old
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woman strapped to a gurney lifted her head and said
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she felt like her arm was about to burst open.
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Then she asked the people killing her whether it was
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supposed to feel like that. The state of Tennessee put
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pentobarbital into Krista Pike. She didn't die. She kicked so
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hard she knocked the sheet off her own legs. She yawned.
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She snored. At one point, her head and her feet
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came up off the gurney at the same time, and
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her body was literally folded into a V. So they
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closed the curtain on the witnesses. By 8.26 p.m., according
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to her lawyer's emergency filing, both rounds of drug were
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in her body. She still had a heartbeat. She was
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still conscious, and she was still snoring. At 8.53 p.m.,
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they walked the reporters out of the building while she
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was still audibly breathing behind a curtain that you paid
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for and we aren't allowed to look behind. And then
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the state that spent three decades insisting that it had
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the right to kill her loaded her into an ambulance,
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lights on and flashing, and drove her to a hospital
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so doctors could keep her alive. And here's what the
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governor said afterward. that the people of Tennessee expect executions
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to be legal, constitutional, and effective. Effective. Not humane. Not accurate.
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Not reversible for the people they get wrong. Effective. Like
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a fucking five-star review of Weed Killer. And what Krista
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Pike did to Colleen Slimmer in 1995 was monstrous. I'm
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going to say that more than once in this episode,
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so get used to that, because I've spent multiple days
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now in multiple episodes And it's barbaric. But this episode
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isn't about whether Krista Pike deserves your sympathy or my
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sympathy or fuck anyone's sympathy. It's about whether you want
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the government that did that last night, holding the power
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to decide which of its citizens keep breathing. I don't.
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And especially after last night, I would love to hear
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anyone's argument for why you still do. I'm Robin. This
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is We Saw the Devil. Let's get into it. Hello, everyone,
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and welcome. This is a very unexpected episode. And you
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know what? I wish that I could say I was surprised,
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but alas, I am not. If you've listened to the
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previous episodes, I discussed how the doctor who was in
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charge of this execution botched the one earlier. And that
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man was not put to death because, again, it was
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a botched attempt at an execution. And now here we
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are in the same fucking place. I've also spent the
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last three days arguing with strangers on threads and Twitter
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and Facebook and all of that. And, you know, I
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would like that carved on my headstone. OK, so future
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generations understand what finally took me out. And every single
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comment follows the exact same arc. Someone's like, she tortured
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a girl to death. She doesn't deserve life. And I'm like, yes, yes,
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she did. Yes, yes, she did torture someone to death. Horrifically, actually.
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And they say, oh, so you support torture then? And
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I say, no, that is literally my entire point. And
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they're like, well, and my favorite, what if it was
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your kid? And then some man whose profile picture looks
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like a bass boat tells me to move to Canada
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or move to a different country or I'm not American.
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I've been told to leave my country so many times
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this week that I swear to God I should get
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some sort of relocation stipend. I don't even know. But
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in any case, for those of you who are enjoying
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want to financially back and support the show. So we're
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going to go through the news tonight because we have
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timestamps of everything that happened, as is the nature of executions.
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And all of these timestamps come from the seven media
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witnesses who were in that building observing. Also from Krista
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Pike's own lawyers, the court filings, and we just, I
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had to get this episode out, guys, because I am
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so upset right now. So, let's talk about what happened
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last night, okay? Start to finish, because this news cycle
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has already pretty much compressed it into execution fails, woman hospitalized,
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And that is doing a whole lot of kind of
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like lifting here. And apologies, I didn't even write an episode.
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This is going to be completely off the cuff. I
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just have a couple notes from the witness statements from
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last night. But it is about 1230 a.m. and I'm
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too pissed to sleep, to be quite honest. But I
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want to talk about what exactly happened and then how
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the fuck we got here, okay? Because, again, her lawyers
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told the state in a courtroom last month exactly what
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was going to go wrong. And then the state of
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Tennessee called it speculation. And then it actually fucking happened. Lastly,
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it's just the argument, okay? And it's the argument that
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I've been having for days, why the, well, she deserves
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it crowd and the state should get to do it.
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Those are two very, very different sentences, guys. It is.
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And that the state should get to do it is
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terrifying and it should scare the shit out of you.
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And through all of it, you know, I want to
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be respectful as well, because it is it's a heavy case,
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not going to lie. But let's talk about what happened
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last night. Krista Pike was scheduled to die yesterday morning,
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September 30th. OK, again, at Riverbend Prison in Nashville. Now,
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she would have been the first woman executed in Tennessee
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in more than 200 years and about an hour before
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it was supposed to start. The Sixth Circuit Court of
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Appeals stopped it. You may have seen me post the
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articles about that online, but it was big news they
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stopped it. It was a three-judge panel, two-to-one. Judge Jane
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Stranch wrote the order, and the panel said that it
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needed a short stay to actually analyze the arguments and
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decide the issues on merits. Okay, what issue, by the way?
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That's an important question, so stay with me for a second.
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Because for decades, according to Krista Pike's lawyers, the state
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of Tennessee's position in court was that her history of
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childhood sexual abuse was fabricated, that she was a liar.
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But then on August 13th of this year, at a
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special hearing, a lawyer for the state stood up and said, quote,
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the state does not dispute the terrible things that Miss
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Pike suffered. So three decades. And then the state confesses
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to it. Yeah, it doesn't. We don't dispute it. Just
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six weeks before the execution date. Now, her lawyer's argument
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was pretty damn simple. If the state now admits that
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the abuse happened, that rots the foundation of every proceeding
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where the state got to treat it as a lie. OK,
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does that make sense? Well, the attorney general's office responded
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and they called it, quoting their spokesperson directly here, quote,
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this technical issue, a technical issue. So the state admitting
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a woman it's about to kill is was sexually abused
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as a small child is a technical issue. Okay? Like,
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what the fuck? That's something that, that's language that you
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use when a printer is jammed in your office. Right? Like,
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you absolute goblins. And in a filing that afternoon, the
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state called Krista Pike's delay inexcusable. Inexcusable delay. From the
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people who needed three decades, over 30 years, to stop
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calling her a liar that she was raped from the
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age of two. Okay? So the Attorney General's office ran
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to the U.S. Supreme Court. And then last night late,
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the Supreme Court lifted the stay. They forced it. Of course,
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Justices Sotomayor, Kagan, and Jackson dissented. Sotomayor wrote that the
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court was short-circuiting ordinary appellate review and that Tennessee's desire
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to speed up an execution by a few days or
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even weeks could not outweigh Pike's fundamental interest in her
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own life. And of course, the Republican court, the majority disagreed. OK,
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so her death warrant expired at midnight. And apparently the
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important thing for the highest court in the country was
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making that deadline. OK, nothing says this is has been
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a very careful deliberation about human life, like racing a
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goddamn clock. So here we go. Let's talk about the execution.
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The media witnesses walked into the witness room at 641 p.m.
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and they waited for almost an hour. Reporters who'd covered
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other Tennessee executions said that that wasn't normal. According to
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a local publication called the Tennessee Lookout, during that wait,
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with the curtain closed and the chamber microphone not yet on,
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witnesses described hearing groaning and crying. Now, at about 726 p.m.,
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the curtain opened. The Associated Press had it at 727 p.m.
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Krista Pike was strapped to the gurney. She gave a
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final statement. And again, Associated Press's Kim Chandler reported that
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Pike said that she was going to leave this world
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the way that she'd spent most of her life, in love.
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That she had love for the people outside who were
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hating on her. And she closed with, quote, I'm at peace.
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I'm ready to be. free. This is a happy day.
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And then she sang along with her spiritual advisor, who
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was also in the room. Then the drug started. At 7.34,
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per Tori Gessner of WKRN, Pike said, quote, my arm
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feels like it's about to burst open. And she asked
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if that was supposed to happen like that. Wilt Puckett
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of WVLT in Knoxville, a local news station, saw a
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tear roll down from her right eye. She said one
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spot was really throbbing. She was blinking, smiling, let out
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a couple laughs, and she was kicking her feet so
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much that she knocked off the sheet that they'd put
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over her. At 7.41 p.m., an employee put a rock
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where the witnesses could see it. I know, that's weird, right?
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A rock. Reporters who've witnessed prior Tennessee executions say that
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it's actually part of the state's process. No one outside
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the department seems totally sure what the fuck it actually signifies,
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but by the time the rock goes up, that person
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is supposed to look comatose. Except Krista Pike's jaw was moving.
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Three minutes later, she said something. Then she opened her
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mouth wide like a huge yawn. And at 7.46 p.m.,
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the curtain came down. Three minutes later, it went back up,
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and now she was snoring very loudly. Her spiritual advisor
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was brought back into the room. And Puck had described
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her lip quivering. Sounds like she was almost choking. At 7.54 p.m.,
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she grunted. She lifted her head, opened her mouth, and
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at 7.56 p.m., two minutes later, her head and legs
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came up off the gurney together. Again, making that V
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shape that I mentioned in the introduction of this episode.
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At 8.01 p.m., the rock went up again. She was
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still breathing, still snoring, flexing her head and neck. At 8.05 p.m.,
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the curtain closed for the last time, and from that
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point on, witnesses could hear her because the microphone was on.
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They couldn't see her, though. It was steady, rhythmic snoring,
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is how they described it, with doors opening and closing
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in the background. Stephen Hale of the Nashville Banner put it,
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I mean, here's what he said. He said so much
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of whatever happened, happened behind a closed curtain. They could
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hear her breathing. They could not see what was actively
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being done to her in that moment, though. Her lawyer's
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emergency filing says that by 8.26 p.m., both syringes of
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lethal chemicals had been injected. And she was in, in
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their own words, she was still alive and snoring. That
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she had not lost consciousness and still has a heartbeat.
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At 8.53 p.m., the microphone was cut and witnesses were
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escorted out. At 10.20 p.m., her lawyers filed at the
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Sixth Circuit. They filed at the Supreme Court and the
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District Court, too. And they asked the courts to stop
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the execution and order the Department of Corrections to start
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life-saving care, arguing that failing to do so was deliberate
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indifference to serious medical needs. Guys, think about that. In
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your head, stop and take a second. her lawyers had
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to go to the federal court to ask the state
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to stop killing her and start saving her at the
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same time in the same fucking filing. And around 10
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37 PM per WSMV, she was taken to a hospital
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reporter standing outside describing what they'd seen at a press conference.
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And they could actually hear the sign, the, the sirens
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while they were, while they were talking. And then after
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11 PM, the Tennessee department of correction sent out a
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statement saying, And here's basically what it says. It says
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the department followed every step of the state's lawful established
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execution protocol approved by the attorney general's office. The lethal
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injection chemical has, quote, consistently been effective. And the protocol, quote,
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does not allow for additional procedures beyond what was carried
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out this evening. Let's break that down, shall we? They
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said we followed every step. Great. Great. So the plan
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was carried out exactly as it was written, and the
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woman is alive in a hospital bed. Okay? Consistently effective, apparently. Consistently,
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except for the one time anyone's asking about, right? Like, that's...
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That's like a pilot telling you that the landing gear
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is consistently effective as you are skidding down the runway
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about to crash. And Quote, the protocol does not allow
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for additional procedures. Here's what that means. If the person
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isn't dead after the first round, there's a second round.
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If the second round fails, the protocol just, it doesn't say.
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It just ends. Tennessee wrote a choose-your-own-adventure book with two pages, right,
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and no ending. And then they act shocked when someone
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actually managed to reach page three. And again, this happened
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not terribly long ago where the exact same thing happened.
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Robin Marr, I've mentioned her twice in previous episodes on
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this case. She runs the Death Penalty Information Center, which
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doesn't even actually take a position on the death penalty.
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It just provides information. Told the Associated Press that this
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was singular and unparalleled. Guys, seven people in this country
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have survived execution attempts where the team couldn't find a vein.
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Not shitting you. Not shitting you. And nobody, nobody before
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last night had ever survived after actually receiving the drugs. Tennessee,
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my state, didn't just botch an execution last night. Tennessee
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set a national fucking record for botching one. Bang up
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job guys, right? Put it on the welcome sign when
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you cross over our state line. And then Governor Bill
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Lee ordered a comprehensive third-party review of what happened last night.
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His statement said carrying out a lawfully imposed sentence is
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among the state's most serious responsibilities, and the people of
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Tennessee expect it to be done in a manner that
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is legal, constitutional, and effective. Notice what's on the list
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and what's not, okay? Legal, constitutional, effective. You know what
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word did make it? Accurate. You know what else? Humane.
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The governor's complaint about last night isn't that a woman
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lay on a table for over an hour saying her
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arm was bursting open. His complaint is that it didn't work. OK.
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And then a review. OK, another one. Bill Lee caused
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executions in 2022 or sorry, paused executions in 2022. And
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he did that after the state got caught not properly
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testing its execution chemicals. And the independent review he ordered
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back then found exactly that, that the chemicals were too
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degraded to use. So this is the second time that
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he's had to hire someone from the outside to tell
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him what his own Department of Correction is doing in
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his name. He has commissioned more reviews of our state's
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killing process than probably most fucking cheesecake factories even have reviews.
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It's ridiculous. It is obscene. So where... are things currently
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as of 1245 a.m. Thursday morning early. Well, Krista Pike
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is alive. Her lawyers say that no one has told
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them her condition, her death warrant expired at midnight, and
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the state has not said yet what it plans to
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do next. So we're going to talk about that. And
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here's the part that makes me the angriest. All right.
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Like it is quite literally almost 1 a.m. now. And
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I'm so angry. I had to record this because I
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could not sleep until I get this out of my body,
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out of my system and into the ether. OK. And
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I've been pissed for days. I think I even said
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it on Instagram yesterday. Like, here's how I feel about
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the Krista Pike case. If you're going to come at
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me for my beliefs, I have the fucking time. Like,
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I will engage with you. Just be well aware that
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I'm going to engage. Okay? But the part that pisses
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me off the most about all of this is that
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everyone was warned. And if you don't live in Nashville, again,
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I live in Nashville. Nashville city limits. Okay? I... Not
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only are we seeing, I think most people, and I mean,
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we've all experienced this, right? Like local cases where we
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have so many sources and local magazines and newspapers and
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so on and so forth, all talking about it. We
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have a completely different dialogue locally than what other people
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who don't have a fundamental understanding of the case or
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haven't been inundated with this case for 30 freaking years
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that you guys probably hear, okay? This case has been
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nonstop for 30 years. They were warned. Back in August,
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there was that three-day hearing where Krista Pike's defense team
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argued that she has a vein condition. Small veins. She
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has a 30-plus year history of insanely difficult blood draws.
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They argued that finding a vein to push the drug
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would be exceptionally hard and that things could more than
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likely go wrong because of that. And after last night,
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her lawyers put out a statement. And if this isn't
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the biggest case of, I told y'all so, They said
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that they took no pleasure in being right. And then
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they listed exactly what they had warned about. Difficult vein access,
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blown veins, degraded meds, no emergency medical care available, quote,
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when things inevitably go wrong, all under a protocol that
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was kept secret. Now, what did the state say back then? Well,
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the attorney general, Jonathan Scrametti, told USA Today that Krista
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Pike had offered nothing but speculation, that the quote, well-established
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constitutional lethal injection method posed any unique risk in her case.
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speculation her arm felt like it was going to burst
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open she was conscious with both doses inside of her
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she left in an ambulance someone please tell the attorney
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general that his speculation has been signed sealed and fucking
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delivered at this point And it's not like Tennessee has
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a spotless track record that justified the confidence in this method.
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In May of this year, as I've mentioned multiple times,
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the state tried to execute Tony Carruthers. The physician on
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the team spent more than an hour trying to get
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IV lines in, including a central line. You know, the
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way the protocol requires. Witnesses described it as bloody. Some
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called it torture. The governor actually ended up calling off
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the executions. And again, I've already mentioned it, but don't
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forget that the same doctor who was involved in the
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Carruthers botched attempt was also involved in Krista Pike's last night.
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So same doctor, same department, same governor, same protocol. Four
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months later in the state's position going into last night
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was essentially, fuck it, y'all. We're feeling good vibes about
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this one. Go back further. August 2025, Byron Black, 69
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years old. He had an implanted defibrillator in his chest.
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His lawyers fought to get it turned off so it
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wouldn't shock his heart while the drugs were working. The
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state went ahead without deactivating it. And about 10 minutes in,
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Black raised his head off the gurney and said, it's
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hurting so bad. And all seven media witnesses agreed that
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he looked like he was in debilitating pain. So count
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with me now. August 2025, May 2026, now September 2026.
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That's three executions in 14 months where something visibly, audibly,
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physically went wrong. And the state's response each time was
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to put the next name, the next scheduled execution, on
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the goddamn calendar. Laura Porter, who runs the anti-death penalty
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group that filed one, okay? They filed one of tonight's
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emergency motions. says that after Carruthers, people from across the
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political spectrum in Tennessee asked for a pause to figure
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out what was wrong, and that all of those pleas
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were ignored. Ignored. Okay? Now, let's talk about the other
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Scrimeti quote, because I have been sitting and just fuming
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on this one for a couple days. USA Today asked
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him directly about Krista Pike's arguments, and our Attorney General said... Quote,
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we wish Krista Pike's commitment to the sanctity of life
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had arrived in time to save Colleen Slimmer. Sanctity of
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life from the office that spent last night and all
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day yesterday in the United States Supreme Court fighting for
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the right to end a life before midnight. And look,
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I get it. Okay. It's a good line. It reminds you.
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of what she did, which is the whole purpose. It's
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supposed to make you and make all of us feel
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like anyone asking questions about the needle is somehow spitting
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on Colleen's grave. But you can hold Krista Pike responsible
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for Colleen Slumber's death and hold the state of Tennessee
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responsible for what it did in that room last night.
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Those are not competing obligations. One does not cancel out
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the other. The attorney general needs you to think that
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they do though, right? Because if you're too busy being
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pissed off at Krista Pike, you're not asking, okay, well,
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why did your quote unquote, well-established little execution method just
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shit the bed? And originally I was going to recap
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what happened to Colleen Slummer and go through that again,
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because guys, I'm so tired. I'm so tired. I'm so
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tired of arguing with people. And I've said it previously.
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I don't understand the bloodlust in our society. I really,
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really don't. And I wrote a blog, a pretty lengthy blog,
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like social media posts about it earlier. I shared it
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on We Saw the Devil on the Facebook page. I
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shared it. And I basically talk about how, you know,
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Lindsay Clancy killed her three kids and blah, blah, blah.
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And she's getting the pink ribbons and, you know, all
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of this. I talked about this in the previous episode too.
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And then I talked about Krista Pike and I talked
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about how it is a proven fact that people are
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are more apt to relate to people that have some
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semblance of similar demographic and background that they do. Okay?
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That is a fact. It is a psychological fact that
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has been proven time and time and time again. You
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can't argue with me there. But one thing that I've
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been asked at least 50 times in the last 24
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hours is, what if it were your child? And every
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argument that I've been having on threads or whatever channel,
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it goes like this every single fucking time. Someone, you know,
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they talk about the skull fragment or they go into
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depth about what Krista Pike did to Colleen. Or they
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tell me to go look at the crime scene photos, which,
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you know what, I'm going to say it right now.
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I have. I have looked at the crime scene photos.
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I don't know how many of you guys are aware,
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but they are out there and they are available. You
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can Google them right now. If you are squeamish, please
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do not. But you can see it. You can see
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the head bashed in. You can see the pentagram carved
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into Colleen's body. You can see it all. And today
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I lost my shit because one woman asked that question
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and unsurprising, but she said, what if it were your
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child who was tortured and killed? I'm reading from my
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timeline right now. And here's what I said, word for word.
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And I stand by it. I said, correct. Correct. It
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wasn't my child. Weird how that argument falls apart when
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you look at the parents who have actually lost theirs.
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Bill and Denise Richards' 8-year-old son Martin was killed in
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the Boston Marathon bombing, and they publicly begged the federal
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government to take the death penalty off the table for
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the man who did it. Bud Welch's daughter Julie was
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killed in the Oklahoma City bombing. He publicly, vehemently opposed
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executing Timothy McVeigh. Marietta Yeager's seven-year-old daughter Susie was kidnapped
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and murdered, and Marietta asked that her daughter's killer not
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be executed. Plenty of murder victims' families have done the
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same thing. Are they soft on crime too? What Krista
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Pike did to Colleen Slimmer was monstrous. No one is
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arguing otherwise. Opposing her execution isn't excusing her for the crime.
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Her childhood doesn't get her out of prison, and I
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never said that it should. She can die in prison
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of old age. I just don't think Imagine How Mad
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You'd Be is a sentencing guideline. That is the whole
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reason that courts exist. That's what I said. And I
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want to talk about why this question makes me so
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goddamn tired. Because what if it were your child is
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not an argument, y'all. It's a hypothetical about my feelings.
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And yeah, if someone did that to my kid, you know,
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what was done to Colleen Slimmer, I would want to
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tear them apart with my bare hands. Of course I would.
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That's why I would not be allowed on the jury.
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That's why I would not be the judge. That's why
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we don't hand grieving parents A needle. We built an
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entire justice system specifically so that punishment isn't set by
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the angriest people or the loudest mob. That's the point
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of it. The victim's pain is real and it matters
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and it gets heard. It goes through the process. It
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doesn't get to write the sentence. And anyone who thinks
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it should needs to explain to me why the Richards
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don't want to, you know, they don't get to write
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theirs or Bud Welch or Marietta Yeager or the 50
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plus other victims like parents or family members who lost
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someone in a heinous, heinous, heinous way. Because that's the trick, right?
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The families who want death get held up as the
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voice of every victim. The families who don't get kind
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of like, you know, shoe fly, quietly skipped over. If
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the grief is standard, it has to be everybody's grief.
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But the minute that you admit that, the argument itself
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falls apart, right? Because grieving people want wildly different things.
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And I have a question for you. The people in
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my comments are the one that, God, so many people
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learned Krista Pike's name sometime around Monday, and then now
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they are just absolutely the experts and commenting on everything.
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What do you get out of this? And I'm seriously
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genuinely asking this. What does her death give you? Is
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it safety? I mean, hell, she's been locked in a
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cell since 1995. She's 50 years old. She was never
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getting out. Life without parole does safety just fine. You know,
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public safety. Is it closure? Closure for who? Colleen's mother
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has been waiting 31 years for this execution and last
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night just reopened the whole thing for her. The death penalty,
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I will argue, isn't closure. It's decades of appeals and
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hearings and stays and warrants and press conferences. And it
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keeps a grieving family dragged back through it all the time. OK,
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it's a revolving door with a mother, in this case,
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Colleen Slimmer's mother, being stuck in it. Is it justice? Okay,
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in your mind it is. Define it for me. Because
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to Daryl's ship was in those woods too and he's
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alive today. Shadola Peterson was in those woods with them
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and she got probation. If justice means death for what
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happened to Colleen, two-thirds of the people involved didn't get it.
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If it doesn't, then, you know, what the fuck were
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we doing last night? Or is it the honest answer, okay?
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Is that, is the actual honest answer here is that
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you want Krista Pike to hurt? Because if that's it, congratulations,
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Tennessee delivered on your behalf, y'all. Two doses in an
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hour of snoring behind a curtain where no one could see.
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Her arm felt like it was going to burst. Like,
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was that good for you? Do you feel better now?
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Did Colleen magically resurrect? That's the part that gets me,
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is that the people demanding this keep telling me, this
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is about Colleen. Justice will finally prevail. Justice, justice. I
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keep seeing that word over and over and over again.
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But nothing that happened on that gurney last night did
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one single fucking thing for Colleen Slimmer. It was for them.
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It was the state performing vengeance on the family's behalf,
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so that they could feel like something happened. And when
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the performance went wrong, the people, these same people, are
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hot and bothered tonight, saying that they, you know, we
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should have used a rope. We should have used a bullet.
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We should do what the Soviets did and just walk
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into their cell and have them kneel down and put
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it in the back of their head. Like, the problem
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last night was the actual props. And the thing about
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it is that's what this is. It is a government-funded
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revenge show. And you don't even get to watch it, right?
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Because they close the curtains whenever it starts to get ugly,
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even for a second. So here's where I land on this.
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Not on Krista Pike, on the state. I do not
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believe that the state should have the power to kill
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its own citizens. And before someone clips that and puts
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a clown wig on me or whatever the fuck, yes,
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I've heard the counter argument. I get the argument. Like,
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here's where I'm torn personally, okay? Because I get the argument.
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For the Dahmers, the Gacy's, the Bundy's. I really do.
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When you're talking about a man who kept a human
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head in his refrigerator, my gut and your gut are
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probably in the same place. You know what I mean?
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People who attack repeatedly against serial killers, serial attackers. Now,
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quick fun fact, though, because this is a factual fun fact.
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Jeffrey Dahmer never got a death sentence. Wisconsin hasn't had
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the death penalty since 1853. He was killed by another inmate, right?
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Like the state didn't even kill him. John Wayne Gacy,
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he was the poster boy for some people just deserve it.
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His execution in Illinois back in 1994 also went wrong.
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The chemicals stopped throwing through the IV line and they
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had to stop and swap out the tubing mid-execution. That's
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your best case scenario, right? Like the most deserving guy, arguably,
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in modern American history. And the state still couldn't execute
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him properly. So even if you carve out space for
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the absolute worst of the worst, worst offenders, nightmare humans
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who have no place in society amongst people, here's the problem.
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It can't just be a vibe. It can't be, well,
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I'll know it when I see it. If the state
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is going to have this power, it has to be
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one rule applied the same to everyone, every single time.
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Same standard for who qualifies. Same quality of lawyers, same process,
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same drugs, same competence at the table, right? And it
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has to work every single time on everyone, including those
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people with tiny veins or implanted heart devices, and a
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lifetime of abuse and mental health issues that no one
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bothered to introduce to the jury. Look at what Krista
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Pike's own case tells you about the same for everybody bullshit, okay?
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Three people in the woods, one death sentence. The 17-year-old
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couldn't get it by law, obviously. The one who testified
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got probation. And the one who was just a few
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months too old got the needle. Her lawyers argue that
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the jury never even properly heard about her abuse, and
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the state spent decades treating it as made up until
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six weeks before her execution date. A judge on the
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Sixth Circuit, again, Jane Stranch, wrote in a concurring opinion
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on one of Krista Pike's earlier appeals, that sentencing Pike
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to death meant presuming that she was incapable of reform,
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even though the stories of other teenage killers show possibilities.
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And Rob Amara at DPIC has said, you know, that
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a jury today hearing about her age, her mental illness,
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and her abuse would likely not give her a death
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sentence at all. So the same crime in a different
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00:34:36.739 --> 00:34:39.570
year with a different lawyer gets a different outcome. Okay,
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that's not one rule for everyone. It's a lottery. And
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who runs the lottery? The same government that couldn't test
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its own fucking drugs properly before 2022. The same government
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that spent an hour stabbing Tony Carruthers with needles just
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some months back. The same government whose governor's big complaint
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last night was that it wasn't effective. In the same Tennessee, like,
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we can't do anything right here, y'all. And you don't
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trust these people to fill a fucking pothole. OK, but
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we suddenly trust them to decide who dies, get it
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right every single time and do it cleanly and effectively.
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Get the fuck out of here. And, you know, I'll
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tell you what I believe. Just open and honest. You know,
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I believe the power to kill is the most dangerous
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power a government can have. More dangerous than taxing us.
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More dangerous than just locking us up. Because every other
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mistake the state makes, it can at least, you know,
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be partly undone. You can let someone out of prison.
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You can pay them off. Restitution. You can apologize. You
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cannot unkill a person. And we know with actual real
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numbers that the state gets it wrong. And that's what
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I want to talk about on the reality check in
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this episode. You know, but before that, one more time
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for everybody in the back so nobody in my comments
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can pretend I didn't say it. Krista Pike tortured and
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killed Colleen Slimmer. She should stay in prison until she
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dies of old age. That is a real punishment. It's
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the rest of her life in a cell. It protects
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every single person outside those walls. And it leaves room
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for the one thing an execution never actually does, which
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is the possibility that we got something wrong. That's my position.
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It has been consistent for decades now. This is how
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I have felt for decades. It was before Wednesday. It
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was yesterday. It was before last night. And it sure
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as hell is now. Okay, guys, for reality check, I'm
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going to set Krista Pike aside here for a bit.
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She confessed. No one, including her, disputes what she did.
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Her case is about how the state punishes, right? Not
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whether they got it right. But the system that tried
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to kill her on Wednesday is the exact same system
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that sentences everyone else on death row to. And that
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system makes mistakes. And in case you weren't aware, we
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can actively measure how many. Back in 2014, a team
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of researchers published a study in the Proceedings of the
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National Academy of Sciences. And they looked at people sentenced
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to death in the United States between 1973 and 2004.
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And they estimated that at least 4.1% of them were innocent.
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The authors called that number conservative. You can go check
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out the Innocence Project. They cite this research as well. 4.1%
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is roughly one in every 25 people sentenced to death.
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Now look at how many have actually been cleared. According
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to the Death Penalty Information Center, again, DPIC, 203 people
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00:38:01.139 --> 00:38:07.119
have been exonerated from death row since 1973. 203 people.
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The most recent was Jermaine Wright in Delaware. And it
607
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:13.619
was just this past July, just a couple months ago,
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34 years after his wrongful conviction. For every eight people
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executed in this country in the modern era, one person
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sentenced to death has been exonerated. That gap between the
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00:38:26.309 --> 00:38:29.469
estimated innocence rate and the actual exoneration rate is the
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part that we need to focus on and understand. Because
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the study found that the rate of exoneration is well
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under half of the estimated rate of innocence. Which means,
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in plain English, most innocent people sentenced to death are
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never cleared at all. And why? Because death row gets
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scrutiny anyway. Right? You have the lawyers, the appeals, the reporters,
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the students. But when someone's death sentence is reduced to
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life in prison, that attention almost completely disappears. DPIC reports
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that once a prisoner is re-sentenced to life, the chance
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of exoneration drops by close to 90%. They're still innocent.
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They still didn't do the crime. It's just no one's
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00:39:11.789 --> 00:39:15.739
looking at it anymore. The people who were cleared spent
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an average of 13 years under a death sentence first.
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Official misconduct, you know, by police, prosecutors or other government officials.
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It shows up in about 70 of death row exonerations.
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Let me say that again for you and your good ear.
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Official misconduct, whether it's by police, prosecutors, or other government officials,
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shows up in about 70% of death row exonerations. DNA
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evidence exists in only about 17% of them, which means
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most of these people were cleared by something other than
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a lab test, sometimes it's just purely by luck. So
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when someone tells you that the system only executes people
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who are definitively, definitely guilty, ask them which of the
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203 that they would have been comfortable with killing before
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the evidence exonerating them came out. You know, and here's
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what you can do with this, depending on how much
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you've got. If you have five minutes, read past the
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00:40:17.130 --> 00:40:22.039
headline on this case, okay? Dive in deep to the
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00:40:22.059 --> 00:40:25.099
Chris Pike case. The coverage is already kind of shrinking
641
00:40:25.139 --> 00:40:30.639
into one sentence, right? Like everyone's talking about the botched execution,
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00:40:30.659 --> 00:40:33.619
the witness accounts, all of that. But know what actually
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00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:36.300
happened before you argue about it. That has been my
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00:40:36.380 --> 00:40:39.909
chief thing my entire life, is I will not argue
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something unless I have put in the work, put in
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00:40:42.369 --> 00:40:44.829
the time, put in the research, and thoroughly understand it
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enough to where I can actually have a supporting belief.
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Do that, okay? If you're going to argue about this shit,
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00:40:50.909 --> 00:40:54.190
argue about the state's conduct. Because you're never going to
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00:40:54.210 --> 00:40:57.469
win a fight about whether Krista Pike is sympathetic. You know,
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00:40:57.539 --> 00:41:01.159
and you don't need to. Because she's not. Let us
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00:41:01.219 --> 00:41:06.030
be so for real. Krista Pike is a monster. The fact, right?
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The question here, though, isn't about whether she's sympathetic, whether
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she deserves to live. The question should be as well
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about what the government is allowed to do. If you
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have an afternoon, look up the Death Penalty Information Center's
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innocence database. It lists every single one of these exonerations.
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Look up your own state. They have it listed by state.
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Look up how these people were cleared. Then look up
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murder victims' families for reconciliation. It's another group, murder victims'
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families for reconciliation. And the people I talked about earlier,
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Bud Welch, Marietta Yeager, the Richard family. When someone asks you,
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00:41:42.150 --> 00:41:45.329
what if it were your child? You'll know that there
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is a very, very, very, very long, lengthy list of
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parents who've answered that question with their own lives vocally.
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If you're in Tennessee... Governor Lee has ordered a third-party
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review of what the fuck happened last night. Reviews only
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00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:04.260
matter if the public sees them. Call your state representative,
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call our state senators, call the governor's office, and ask
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one single question. That the full review be made public,
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00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:14.840
ask them if it's going to be, and include the protocol,
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00:42:15.340 --> 00:42:18.989
the drug testing records, and the timeline from inside that room.
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We need to know, not just a summary, we need
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the whole thing. You know, after 2022, after Byron Black
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after Tony Carruthers, and now we have Krista Pike, last night,
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the state has not earned the right to kind of
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grade its own homework in private, okay? And wherever you are,
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the next time someone tells you that the death penalty
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is for the worst of the worst of the worst,
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remember two numbers, 125 and 203. So, That's where we
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are today, y'all. A woman who did something just absolutely
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monstrous at age 18 is now lying in a hospital
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bed tonight at 50, alive, because the state wasn't able
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to kill her. A mother in Florida has waited 31
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00:43:04.989 --> 00:43:07.289
years and still has no idea how this is going
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to end. Colleen Slimmer's mother couldn't even afford to travel
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to Tennessee, but she was able to based on some
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donations earlier this afternoon. She made it here. And then
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look at what she's going through. We have a governor
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who's upset that his beloved process wasn't effective. And our
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attorney general is now lecturing everyone about the sanctity of life.
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And by the way, the state hasn't even said whether
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it's going to try killing her again. And the thing
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about it, you know, putting aside moral reasons that I
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am completely opposed to the death penalty under the eighth amendment,
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There is a prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment. Our
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government has an obligation, has a legal obligation to uphold
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the Constitution regardless of what someone does. And that is
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what I don't understand, is that people are so consumed
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by bloodlust right now that they are forgetting that we
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have law and order in this country for an actual reason.
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And I don't know about you, But what's so funny
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is that I am seeing so many, you know, I mean, Democrats, conservatives, progressives,
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I'm seeing bloodlust from coming from every direction right now.
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And like I said, I understand, you know, the human
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knee jerk reaction to that. But the thing about it, guys,
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is do we really want to live in a barbaric country?
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You know, I would hope that our society was more
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enlightened than this by now, but apparently not. But I
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don't want to live in a country or state where
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they can do whatever they want. And the actual numbers
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and research that's been done on people who aren't even guilty, it's,
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do you want to take that chance? Okay, do you
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want to take that chance? Let's say that your child
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committed a heinous crime. Would you like their odds? It's just,
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it's just all crazy, guys. It is all crazy. I'm
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not asking anybody to forgive Krista Pike. Fuck Krista Pike.
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You know, I'm asking you to stop handing this power
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to people who just showed you live in front of
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a room full of people what they do with it. Okay?
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That's all I'm asking here. Do your own research. I
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will say this until I'm blue in the face. If
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you disagree with me, that's completely fine. All I ask
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is that you do your due diligence and do your
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research because all of the research that we have, this
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is a heavily researched topic and it is all there
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for you. But in any case, guys, again, this episode
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was very unexpected. I know that I got on my soapbox.
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I know that I am very, very, very, very, very,
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very angry right now. And I will, so again, this episode,
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I had to get it out. So it's not edited.
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It's very raw. And I will be doing another update
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episode if this moves. I think that what's likely going
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to happen is her attorneys are obviously going to file, right?
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And say that her rights were violated. And we have
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seen it in the past where they commuted to a
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life in prison sentence. And honestly, that is kind of
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where I'm thinking. It's where it should go at this point.
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If she survived two rounds of meds, didn't kill her.
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And now she's, you know, potentially fucked up for life. Like, yeah,
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probably should just go ahead and do life in prison.
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Although this is the state of Tennessee. And if you
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know anything about Tennessee, it's that this, uh, section of
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the populace here, they're not a bunch of quitters. So
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I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to kill her again. It's,
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it's just wild. I, I, I just cannot believe at
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this point that it is 2026 and The death penalty
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isn't even an option on the table in so many
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states in our country. And then in the ones where
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they are, it's this heinous shit and the heinous news
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coming out of it all the time. But in any case, guys, again,
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thank you for listening. I'm Robin. You've been listening to
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We Saw the Devil. Check out the website. It's wesawthedevil.com.
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Links to everything are everywhere. It is not difficult to find.
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If you want to follow me, you can do so
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on Instagram at Robin underscore WSTD. Robin Coleman on Facebook.
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You can see me on the We Sell the Devil
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Facebook page as well. But other than that, y'all, that
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is it for today. I will keep you guys posted
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as the story moves, which I'm sure there's going to
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be a lot of movement in the upcoming days. And
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apologies if you're tired of it. There are a handful
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of other cases that I want to cover as well
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as don't forget, I still have the Micah Miller full story.
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So far, I've written six full episodes on the Micah
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Miller case. Really a deep, deep, deep dive. That is
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also coming soon. It's just, unfortunately, we have the only
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house out of Philly, which is probably due with an
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update as well, due for an update as well. And
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then the Krista Pike execution. But moving on to other things, guys.
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Thanks for listening. Until next time.