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00:02.364Darling, why'd you go and listen?
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00:08.314They ain't got nothing good to say.
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00:14.845Now there's so much life you're missing.
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00:21.044So-called friends led you astray.
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00:27.535You know the devil keeps us company.
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00:33.914With all this bright and shiny things.
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00:40.425Also on the livestream, you don't hear everybody singing because we don't
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00:44.041have mics situated to like pick up the audience
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00:47.418or the congregation. That may help too. Yeah, with the room filling, house noise.
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00:51.567And so, which you don't really want a ton of that,
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00:55.393but no, but it helps. This is so during COVID
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00:59.151or maybe I don't remember, at different points in our life I've sat in different
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01:02.443spots in the sanctuary. Have y'all moved around? No. You,
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01:05.622you sit in the pinner row? I was born in the pinner row.
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01:09.379Okay. All right. Well, have you moved around?
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01:13.730Not in a long time. Not really. Okay. Well, if you get brave,
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01:17.183you can do that. But we sit in the balcony some, like front of the
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01:21.341balcony, back of the balcony. I've sat under the balcony,
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01:24.890back in the back. For what? I don't know.
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01:28.790Maddie's just— Maddie's not really a creature of habit. But you said for COVID,
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01:32.590I think it started during COVID maybe, or when we were coming back from COVID
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01:35.830It was just like, let's go sit different places and like, oh, your dad was
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01:38.710still interacting with people. Yeah, I wasn't preaching, so it was like we could sit
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01:42.470wherever. I hated the balcony so much. Is it weird? Because you
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01:46.530can't hear anybody sing. Everybody's in front of you, or the bulk
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01:50.710of the people are down below, and then there's only like 4 or 5 rows
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01:53.880or whatever it is. And so You just can't hear anybody,
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01:57.740uh, sing up there. And then you don't want to sing because you don't want
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02:01.320to be the only one. Yeah, it feels— yeah, it feels like, oh, we're gonna—
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02:05.100well, nobody's singing, but it's like, no, mumble a little bit.
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02:08.560There's 300 people in the room, but you can only see— you can't even see
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02:12.500most of the congregation from up there. Yeah, you're seeing the corners, right? Yeah.
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02:16.160And then the very back row, we sit on the back row down on the
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02:19.768bottom, and I hated that too because I couldn't hear anybody. And so I guess
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02:22.400I just had grown up sitting up front.
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02:27.409I like hearing everybody sing behind me. Like, I like when somebody right
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02:31.422behind me, whether it's William Seal or Gary Litton or Jeremy Bertrand
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02:35.339or whoever sits behind us, I love it when they're belting it,
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02:39.480even if it's bad. I don't care. I just like— that makes
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02:42.643me want to sing more, you know? So that's not what this
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02:46.319episode's about by any means. Singing, the spiritual gift of singing.
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02:49.259Do you feel like we should sit in the same spot every week?
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02:53.902Why do we? Why do you? I don't know. Why do you? Just where we
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02:57.741sit. I'm a creature of habit. Okay. For sure. Yeah.
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03:01.051If I get used to doing something, I usually don't want to change it.
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03:04.923Even if there's some— even if I know that there's— it's weird.
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03:08.778Even if I know that there's something better, but I'm set in my ways on
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03:12.024it and like, I don't want— I don't want to. Do you order the same
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03:15.587thing at every restaurant too? No, I've got a— you've got a few.
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03:19.003I've got at least got it. Yeah, I'm gonna realize, and I will once I
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03:23.030get used to the restaurant, like, okay, this place is good, I'll venture
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03:25.917out. But I, I usually stick with what I know. Yeah, we're just on a
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03:29.702trip, you went to new places. Yeah. How do you handle that? Well,
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03:33.520that's— so everything's relative, right? So if I go to Mexican food, I know
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03:36.760that, you know, fajitas is probably the best thing, okay, to try.
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03:40.353So, or, you know, something of that nature. Do you
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03:44.720ever ask Hey, we're brand new here. We've never been here before.
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03:48.160Probably not going to come back again. What should we get? Very often.
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03:52.080Yeah. Do you actually order it? No.
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03:55.880I knew you were going to say that. The waitress is like,
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03:59.480okay, why'd you ask? You just get her recommendation and
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04:03.460then don't order it? Are you serious? Sometimes. That sounds good. I'll take the tacos
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04:05.710instead. Yeah, let me get the fajitas, please.
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04:11.190Oh my word. What about you?
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04:15.110Uh, with the restaurants? Yeah, I like to mix it up. If it's
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04:18.310a new place, I'll be like, if it's Mexican, like, yeah, I'm gonna go tacos
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04:22.110or fajitas or quesadillas, something simple until I
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04:25.090know it's good. And I'm like, oh, this, this dish looks— sounds good, let me
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04:28.970try this. And yeah, I don't know, I like to try different
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04:33.010fish, different fish meals. I like fish. Yeah, I'm— man, fish,
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04:36.930you do like fish. I like like shrimp, grouper. I'm very careful,
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04:40.670very careful with the Seafood. I like it. I just don't— I love
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04:43.890it. I've been— I've gotten food poisoning too. Yeah,
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04:47.870you got to be careful with shrimp tacos. Can't just go eating seafood from
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04:51.870everybody. I do though. Why don't you tell us about your first date with Kennedy?
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04:54.240Did we already do that on the podcast? I don't think so.
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04:58.050Maybe. I don't know. You get food poisoning a lot, don't you?
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05:02.430No, I've only had it once. Kennedy had it. Maybe I just— what about the
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05:06.070Christmas party? Oh yeah, I don't know if that was food poisoning. You were just
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05:09.510vomiting after you ate it? Just Because what do you call that? It was so
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05:13.890spicy. I don't know, that's the most spiciest thing I've ever eaten, and it tore
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05:16.910me up. But I don't think it was food poisoning. I think my stomach was
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05:21.510boiling. I felt the literal fire, and I was like, what spice level
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05:24.990did you pick that time? Not even the highest. Here was the highest. I picked
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05:27.970like here, right below it. They lied to me. They said, oh, we're gonna get
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05:32.190this kid, and they got me. That was not fun. That is funny. But my
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05:36.250first date with Kennedy? Yes. Okay, we went to Cheddar's. Because that was her favorite
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05:39.910restaurant. We'd been dating for a little bit. Y'all are 15?
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05:43.43016. So you— she drove? You drove? She drove. I don't know. I didn't
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05:45.690have a car yet, but she did. She had her license. I didn't have my
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05:49.830license. She drove, um, went to Cheddar's.
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05:53.990Maybe we went to a movie also. I can't remember. But we got
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05:57.510there and she's— I love this story— chicken Alfredo. She loves
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06:00.870chicken Alfredo. And I was— I don't even know what I got, but I knew
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06:03.730she knew she was gonna get that. The waiter comes up, would you like to
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06:08.130try any appetizers? Starts listing every appetizer And I
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06:11.149plan on getting one. He said spinach dip first. I'm like, oh yeah, yeah,
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06:14.760let's get spinach dip. We like that. He said, would you like this also?
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06:18.870And I'm like, yeah, sure. I was nervous. I think we
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06:22.890got like 3 appetizers. What? I don't even know what. I know we got spinach
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06:27.030dip, maybe chips and salsa too, and something else maybe. Do they
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06:31.030have the Bloomin' Onion or? I don't know. No. You're 16. Yeah, but I was
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06:34.610nervous. First date. Well, how— what was the bill?
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06:37.190It actually wasn't bad. I spend way more now if we go out to eat.
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06:41.550I think it's like $65. Yeah, but back then I got like 3 appetizers
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06:45.210and 2 meals and probably 2 sweet teas. I'm like,
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06:48.990inflation exists. You kept saying yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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06:51.590another. Yeah, I'll take some. Oh, that's good, that's good. And then they came out
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06:56.270with all these appetizers. Did y'all eat it all? Probably not. Yeah, probably not.
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06:58.730I just remember I was like worried, like, do I have enough money in my
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07:02.010pocket right now? And, and luckily I did somehow.
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07:06.240So, so you didn't, uh, you didn't Wouldn't
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07:10.800say that, that you were, um, very self-controlled.
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07:14.460That's where I was going. No, that's where I was going. Took Byron's— you got
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07:18.020it. You knew what I was thinking. So welcome back, everybody.
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07:21.700Today we're gonna be talking about self-control. And as a 16-year-old boy,
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07:25.460amongst a lot of things, when it comes to food, I did not have self-control.
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07:29.700Um, we could all give an example. Yeah, I think food
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07:33.110is a one for all of us. I mean, even, even now, shoot.
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07:35.655I've got a question. I've got a question to start, maybe.
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07:42.465Is there a skill that you feel like you've mastered in
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07:45.451life? Spreadsheets.
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07:49.420Spreadsheets. I don't know. That is fitting.
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07:52.939I would say, I would say, yeah. No one knows you mastered
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07:56.913them. But here's the deal. I have realized with AI, look,
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08:01.054my spreadsheets are getting better, but my knowledge of spreadsheets is getting worse because
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08:03.181it's so easy to go into ChatGPT and go,
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08:07.820I have this data and this data. I need it to do this, write the
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08:11.520formula, and it will give me 4 options and I'll try it and it won't
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08:14.960work. And then I'll go, it gave me this error, fix it. So I feel
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08:19.720like I'm thinking less, but I'm producing some
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08:23.640good things on spreadsheets. But I don't know. Yeah, but you still got to know
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08:27.080how. You still have to know it to the point where you got to know
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08:29.760the questions to ask it. Yeah, you got to know the right questions. So you
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08:31.240got to kind of have to understand it. And you knew how to do it
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08:34.380all before. I guess it's like math and like a calculator.
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08:39.123You can use a calculator to do math, but you've got to know math
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08:42.959to use the calculator. Yeah, I know what this sign means. Yeah. So there's
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08:47.149some base level of knowledge. What was your question? What skill have
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08:51.323I mastered? Do you feel like, or at least fire management
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08:55.304on smoking briskets? I feel like I'm like with my smoker,
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08:58.001I know what I'm doing. I know how long it's going to take. I know
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09:01.452what, what to adjust or not adjust. Secondhand.
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09:06.000Like, just, yeah. Fire management. That's a weird— those are 2 really weird
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09:10.490skill sets. You use a spreadsheet to find out the right temperature?
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09:14.380No, I haven't done that. There are guys out there that have spreadsheets.
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09:18.340There's one guy, Rolling Bones Barbecue. He's, he's fun.
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09:22.480I'm not necessarily recommending it. He does cuss from time to time, but like,
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09:26.540he'll drop a spreadsheet all the time on recipes. Like,
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09:29.440you don't do that. He's like, type in how much ground do you have and
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09:32.440it'll give you all the seasonings, how much and this and that. Oh, he's made
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09:36.080a formula. That's He makes lots of spreadsheets for each,
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09:40.570like, recipe and thing that he does. That's hilarious. Yeah, yeah, that's a double-edged
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09:44.579scratch. That, like, my word, that is like colliding. That's your
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09:48.026goal. Oh my, if only, if only. Okay,
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09:51.410see, what skill have you mastered other than welding? Well, I mean, that's what I'd
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09:55.852probably say is, uh, anything— to be specific, carbon steel.
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09:59.845Yeah, mild steel. Okay, anything made out of— you don't like spicy
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10:04.030steel or what? I'm speaking of things I don't even know.
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10:06.940Well, mild steel, is that what you said? Yeah. So mild steel is just your
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10:11.810common carbon steel. Yeah, it's nerd, nerd word.
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10:16.220But, but yeah, so you've got stainless and you've got all kinds of different grades
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10:20.600of steel, but in aluminum. Okay. All right. Yeah. So what is mild?
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10:24.160Stainless? No, mild would just be like, like,
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10:28.500I don't know, that actually may be aluminum, but anything
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10:31.080made out of just regular structural steel. Yeah. Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah.
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10:36.600I would say for myself, I don't know if I got— if I've mastered
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10:40.640any skills. I feel like I got a lot, but I don't know,
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10:43.620maybe it's because I'm younger than you guys. I don't know. I feel like I
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10:47.220haven't mastered anything. Yeah, I wouldn't say— you see, what are you on your way
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10:50.680towards? That's because I feel the same about that. That's kind of more— yeah,
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10:55.560and fire management. I didn't practice for this test, so I don't
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10:57.730know. This is— I thought it was fitting.
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11:03.657Decent at running compared to— that's what I was going to say, was endurance
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11:07.170compared to, I guess, the majority. But there's
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11:09.624a lot of people better than me, so I know I'm— I know I'm not.
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11:13.234But that doesn't mean you do— I know you have to be the best.
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11:16.811Yeah, then there'd only be one person in the world for every subject.
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11:20.517I have learned this past year a lot about running. I don't think I've mastered
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11:23.325it because I didn't put it— I haven't put it into practice yet. But I
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11:27.060know, like, if I do this, this much time, this I can get an injury
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11:31.120if I'm not taking care of this. Like, I've gained a lot of knowledge now.
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11:35.160Don't ask me how much I've ran this past month because I've been sick.
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11:38.480I have not ran much at all. But I got to race this weekend.
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11:42.080Race this weekend. Me, me and Shane. And what kind of race is this one?
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11:45.720It's a last man standing. It's 4 miles. I think it's like 4.2.
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11:49.960Terrible. Every hour on the hour. If you don't make it back within
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11:53.100the hour, then you're out. So it's, it's until the last man is standing.
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11:56.350So I'm not trying to win it. This is a practice. Your goal, like how
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12:00.990many loops you're trying to do? About 10, 40 miles, 45 miles.
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12:05.070There's one going on right now. It's called the Biggs Backyard Ultra.
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12:09.470Yeah. And it's a worldwide competition. So all these nations have 15 runners
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12:13.370in it and they're like counting how many all of them can do. Wow.
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12:17.090They're on like lap or they call it yards, but like
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12:20.67078. Is this over in Europe or something? Or it's all around
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12:24.210the world. There were like 100 countries simultaneously. Simultaneously. Yeah.
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12:27.191Gotcha. They're on loop like 78.
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12:31.426So that means those guys have not slept in 78 hours.
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12:34.377They might sleep for 10 minutes in between loops.
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12:38.098That doesn't do it. Right. Right. It's unbelievable.
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12:40.793I listened to a guy, Mark Dowdle.
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12:44.225Dowdle. Dowdle. Dowdle. Yeah. Yeah.
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12:48.459He won one big race. La Sol. La Sol Ultra.
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12:52.116Yeah. It was in Germany, I think. Yeah, it was. Yeah. Anyways, he was
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12:55.060talking about like how he just you keep— you get back and you got 10
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12:57.760minutes and he's like, you just, you fall asleep and then you hear like the
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13:01.390buzzer go off and you're like, you're back up. Like, it's just delusional.
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13:04.960You hallucinate, you start seeing things. I've never ran that much, so I don't
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13:09.280know. It's funny, which we're not here to talk about this, but like,
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13:12.780so the US and Australia are like neck and neck. It's like literally going on
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13:16.980right now. But Australia, think about what time it is right there
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13:21.080right now. It's in the middle of the night, and those are the hardest hours
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13:25.400to run, you start hallucinating. There's hallucinations and sleepiness and all that.
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13:28.620Whereas the US now is in the day. So Australia is
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13:32.460dropping runners. The US is holding steady. But here in a little bit, yeah,
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13:35.540that's going to flip and Australia is going to be back in the daylight.
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13:38.720You're going to get a burst of energy and the US is going to have
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13:42.520to fight through the night and equal out a little bit. It's real close.
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13:44.700Yeah. I mean, in the end, in the end, you still got to run.
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13:48.670You still got to go 4 miles in an hour, which is not that hard.
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13:50.620Not that far. No, that's pretty slow. They walk a lot.
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13:57.537But they're at like, they're at like 350
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14:01.480miles in the last 3 days, something on your body nonstop.
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14:04.814I mean, that is, that's insane stupid. I'm not— there's
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14:08.645a lot of them guys that do that stuff. So follow-up question, I'm not there.
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14:12.427Uh, what does it take, right? What does it take to master
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14:15.954something? A lot of time, a lot of patience.
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14:19.480Yeah, a lot of patience. I mean, you can spend a lot of time at
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14:22.819something, still be horrible. I know what you're looking for, it's self-control,
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14:26.624but well, to describe— I'm trying to really dissect what
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14:31.040it, what it really takes to master, uh, a skill or, or anything at
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14:33.914that matter. I think it's being intentional because like you said, you can spend a
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14:38.715lot of time and not really achieve what you're looking for. But if I'm intentionally
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14:42.584gonna spend time running, studying, running, then I'm gonna get better. But if I don't,
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14:45.635I'm just like, I'll just go run here and go run there. Like, yeah.
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14:48.894I spend a lot of time, but I may not be getting better at protecting
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14:51.206and recovery and doing the things I need to do.
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14:54.096But I was thinking just want to.
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14:58.511Yeah, just drive, desire. Like, you gotta
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15:01.674want to be— motivation. Yeah, motivation,
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15:05.367discipline. Because it's not always easy. You gotta want to learn.
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15:08.032You gotta want to grow from mistakes. And like,
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15:12.655like, I don't know. So I mean, that's how I learned how to control
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15:16.234a fire and manage a fire is because I want to, because I
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15:20.053like barbecue, right? Right. Yeah. And I want to design that final
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15:23.488product. And then I also don't like failure,
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15:26.922so I want to get better. So I'll power through the hard stuff.
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15:30.131So I'll try stuff and do different things, and then it's like, okay,
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15:34.031man. So yeah, you gotta— I think you want to— perseverance,
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15:38.075um, good leadership. I think repetition too.
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15:42.472Like, there is no substitute for— I've smoked
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15:45.490hundreds of briskets at this point. Like, I just have.
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15:49.615And I got a good feel for that. And I can't, I can't hand that
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15:55.233over to anybody. I think it's the same with preaching. I feel that like Sunday
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15:59.182I had very little time to prep my sermon, not because people didn't ask.
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16:03.051People offered, you two in particular and Shane,
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16:06.149but I didn't work on it until Sunday.
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16:09.889Saturday afternoon I had written out the scriptures. I knew where it was going.
16:10.360 -->
16:13.890Right. But I hadn't actually written anything down
16:14.390 -->
16:16.670and I did it Saturday afternoon.
16:17.450 -->
16:20.490Went smooth. Just another day. It was a good— it was just another day at
16:20.990 -->
16:23.290the office and multiple people came up and were like, hey, that was pretty good.
16:23.790 -->
16:27.410And I'm like, I'm not going to tell you when I started because— but it
16:27.910 -->
16:31.450sometimes— but I think that's just— man, I've preached
16:31.950 -->
16:35.410hundreds of times more than I've smoked briskets, that's for sure. Yeah.
16:35.910 -->
16:39.621And so you just know. I think it's repetition too. Oh, for sure. You can't,
16:40.039 -->
16:43.717you can't replace, uh, experience. Yeah.
16:44.071 -->
16:47.187And the, just the, the repetitive, uh,
16:47.267 -->
16:50.336effort to, to really try to learn something.
16:50.866 -->
16:54.191Um, and I, and I, what I was saying earlier before you,
16:54.400 -->
16:57.660when you said that, is, is I really think, you know, good leadership,
16:57.934 -->
17:01.805which, yeah, leadership can't give you that rep. They can
17:01.949 -->
17:05.660encourage you. They can show you how, uh, they've learned how to
17:06.160 -->
17:09.753do it. But eventually it's like, okay, I know enough. I've got
17:10.253 -->
17:13.974to just do it and figure it out. Do you feel like you learn,
17:14.471 -->
17:18.596even though every, every brisket that you cook, do you feel like you learn a
17:19.096 -->
17:22.848little bit each time or is it just— Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I think
17:23.348 -->
17:26.973so. Yeah. And every brisket's different. Or you can remember something that you forgot.
17:27.166 -->
17:31.194I think I do that a lot. Like, yeah, you have a good refreshing— In
17:31.694 -->
17:35.105my head though, like In my head, if I could explain to
17:35.605 -->
17:37.508you how to cook a brisket, I feel like I could do it. I go,
17:37.572 -->
17:41.433hey, it's simple. And I've said that to people before.
17:41.497 -->
17:45.182I'm like, just, you know, you season it, you smoke it. And, you know,
17:45.198 -->
17:48.706but then I start, if I think about every step I took,
17:49.427 -->
17:53.400most of those are muscle memory at this point, right? Where to trim
17:53.448 -->
17:56.732it, how much to trim, not, you know, how much seasoning
17:57.232 -->
17:59.199to put on, when to put it on the smoker, where you put it on
17:59.699 -->
18:02.788the smoker, how you position it, when you put foil. Then I start going,
18:02.980 -->
18:07.071okay, it's not simple. In my head it's simple because I've done it 100
18:07.571 -->
18:10.362times and I know what is going to produce them. But if you were to
18:10.507 -->
18:14.296actually write down every single little bitty step, if you watched me and wrote down
18:14.796 -->
18:18.518every step and decision I'd make, there's hundreds in that that
18:18.614 -->
18:22.211matter in that process. And in my head it's like, really,
18:22.227 -->
18:25.855there's 4. Cut it
18:25.919 -->
18:28.937open, trim some fat off, season it,
18:29.066 -->
18:32.840smoke it, rest it. Yeah, that's like the main
18:33.340 -->
18:35.820thing. Slice it the right way. But then I start going, oh, there's a lot
18:36.320 -->
18:39.240more to this than that. So anyway, I think about, uh,
18:39.740 -->
18:43.000you're just talking about muscle memory things, like packing for a
18:43.500 -->
18:47.000trip or packing. I'm thinking like church camp. Yeah, I will send
18:47.500 -->
18:50.240out a detailed— like, I'm, I think the first year I told kids pack everything
18:50.740 -->
18:54.360you would need, I think I was very vague. A lot of things
18:54.860 -->
18:57.960they forgot. And then I'm like, the next year, okay, I started listing like,
18:58.460 -->
19:00.720oh, I got like 25 things on this list, and they still forget it.
19:01.220 -->
19:04.200They don't even read the list, but it's packing to go somewhere. I think as
19:04.700 -->
19:08.420a kid, like, oh, I forget underwear, you know, that's happened. I forget my
19:08.920 -->
19:11.780toothbrush. I forget, uh, you know, early on it's like, oh, do we get the,
19:12.280 -->
19:15.640the sound machine for Lily? Or, you know, the kids. And it's
19:16.140 -->
19:18.320like, after you do it a lot of times, you get good at it.
19:18.340 -->
19:20.860I thought I was gonna stay the night with a friend the other day,
19:21.360 -->
19:23.520and he— they were playing with the neighbors, and he ran in. He's like,
19:24.020 -->
19:27.000oh, can I stay? Yeah, sure, that's great. Go get a bag. He got a
19:27.500 -->
19:29.600bag, he came out. I mean, and I'm looking at the bag he's holding,
19:30.100 -->
19:32.140I was like, there's clearly nothing in there. I mean, if there is, it's not
19:32.640 -->
19:35.560a lot. He said, you can You said get in the bath. I was like,
19:36.060 -->
19:38.390do you have shoes? Oh, oh yeah. He ran back in and grabbed shoes.
19:38.520 -->
19:41.840Do you grab socks? Runs back in and grabs socks. What about
19:42.340 -->
19:46.080underwear? I mean, like, there's only so much you need
19:46.580 -->
19:50.159for one night. Like, he's coming back in the morning and dude
19:50.659 -->
19:54.610got like 2 of the 6 things that you— anyway,
19:55.180 -->
19:58.960he learned. Living and you learn. Yeah. Well, today we're finishing
19:59.460 -->
20:03.020up the fruit of the Spirit, the 9th one. So let me read it
20:03.520 -->
20:06.709again. But the fruit of the Spirit Spirit is love, joy,
20:06.838 -->
20:09.350peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness,
20:10.074 -->
20:13.472self-control. Against such things there is no law.
20:14.229 -->
20:18.763And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified
20:19.263 -->
20:21.747the flesh with its passions and desires.
20:23.116 -->
20:26.435Um, so
9:1, is it significant, its placement,
20:26.677 -->
20:30.383Casey? I think so. Yeah. How so? I think so. I think
20:30.883 -->
20:34.347this is, um, This is the— I said this is the mastery.
20:34.686 -->
20:38.551Like it's the final boss of the fruits, in my opinion.
20:38.648 -->
20:41.453Bowser. I see it that way too. Yeah. Yeah.
20:42.019 -->
20:44.721Because this is the, this is the most difficult thing to,
20:45.174 -->
20:47.374to probably align ourselves with.
20:49.331 -->
20:52.810And yeah, there's— is it,
20:53.068 -->
20:53.921is it the KJV?
20:56.885 -->
20:59.991KJV. What is it? What does it translate? Does it say— I think it's temperance.
21:00.481 -->
21:03.790Oh. Yeah, what is the Greek— what is the Greek definition?
21:04.127 -->
21:07.194Uh, yeah, it's the Greek word enkrateia,
21:07.756 -->
21:12.107which, uh, means self-control or continence,
21:12.476 -->
21:15.993temperance, dominion within, or mastery.
21:16.250 -->
21:19.397Mastery. Yeah, yeah. So it probably uses temperance, I bet. Temperance.
21:19.798 -->
21:23.924Yeah, which is also a very interesting word— temperance.
21:24.695 -->
21:28.353What do you think of when you hear temperance? I think of alcohol
21:28.449 -->
21:31.415for some reason. Wasn't there a movement, the temperance movement or something,
21:31.655 -->
21:35.022with alcohol? Before my time. I'm not as old as you. I don't know.
21:35.182 -->
21:38.597I think of like tempering something, like you temper chocolate
21:38.965 -->
21:42.765when you're baking. Like you have to slowly bring it up
21:42.813 -->
21:46.580to temperature, or sugars, uh, you have to temper.
21:46.804 -->
21:50.572Don't you temper like metal? So there is a tempering process in metal.
21:50.668 -->
21:54.568Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. That is just insane,
21:55.146 -->
21:57.058um, all that goes into it.
21:58.440 -->
22:02.682Yeah, so it's a picture of taking something and
22:02.779 -->
22:06.073trying to make it tougher, right? And you can take
22:06.573 -->
22:10.363metal and you can heat it up and you can quench it, and that
22:10.863 -->
22:14.766makes it really hard, but it also makes it brittle. So what it— and
22:15.266 -->
22:19.024what that does is it— whenever you heat something up and then you
22:19.524 -->
22:23.937quench it fast, the atomic structure in the steel actually like binds and,
22:24.066 -->
22:27.068and, uh, I guess kind of gets smaller.
22:27.759 -->
22:31.693It, it, uh, shrinks just, just a
22:32.193 -->
22:36.044little bit, but just enough to where if you were under any kind of stress
22:36.544 -->
22:40.283or any kind of transfer of energy, it would break. So to
22:40.783 -->
22:44.777temper metal, um, you've got to harden
22:45.277 -->
22:49.490it, which means you heat it up, quench it, atomic stress happens,
22:49.827 -->
22:53.273and then you heat it back up and it loosens that atomic stress just a
22:53.289 -->
22:57.185little bit, and then you cool it down really
22:57.217 -->
23:00.519slow. So there's differences in grades
23:01.019 -->
23:05.825of steel. So you've got tool steel, which is not really tempered
23:06.113 -->
23:09.912very much, very long, or very hot. Maybe, maybe the
23:09.961 -->
23:13.167length is the same, but you don't temper it as hot as you would say
23:13.667 -->
23:16.805spring steel. So you got tool steel, spring steel, mild steel.
23:17.414 -->
23:20.187So different, different processes of tempering.
23:20.861 -->
23:24.595But yeah, it's a massive process. And there's— you
23:24.788 -->
23:28.699temper things differently compared to what you, you know, you want
23:29.199 -->
23:31.648the end result to be. I'm thinking of like, have you ever watched Forged in
23:31.760 -->
23:34.790Fire? They make the knives and swords. That's exactly what I'm thinking about. Yeah.
23:34.886 -->
23:38.188And quenching them, but they're quenching them fast. They're not quenching them fast.
23:38.957 -->
23:42.435So a lot of times blades, you'll— you
23:42.500 -->
23:45.884want the hardness Uh, more than this. Yeah,
23:46.269 -->
23:49.718more than you want, uh, ductility where it can just
23:49.942 -->
23:53.632kind of go back to— whereas in a building with a beam, you need
23:54.132 -->
23:56.856some— you need it to go be able to go back ductile. Yeah,
23:57.659 -->
24:01.220yeah, almost memory. There's a— there's, there's things, you know, memory still,
24:02.295 -->
24:06.129um, has a lot to do with it. But, but yeah, it's a— it's
24:06.241 -->
24:08.760an amazing process of how to,
24:09.113 -->
24:12.466um, and Honestly, whenever I read that, wouldn't it,
24:12.804 -->
24:16.077uh, temperance, uh, I was like, is that the same?
24:16.286 -->
24:18.806Is that the same root word? I don't know. I don't know if it is,
24:18.934 -->
24:22.545but, but it makes, it makes sense. You could apply
24:23.045 -->
24:27.151it here. Yeah, I think so. Which the application is, it's, it's a controlled,
24:27.728 -->
24:31.692uh, cooling or controlled heating or controlled
24:31.740 -->
24:34.533whatever, as opposed to just like uncontrolled, right?
24:35.030 -->
24:39.089Right. Which you think about in life, like controlled anger
24:39.842 -->
24:43.610can be directed in a good way, but uncontrolled
24:44.110 -->
24:47.731anger is brittle like steel in that it cracks
24:48.231 -->
24:52.526and breaks and even explodes, I think, right? Like there's some, there's some violence,
24:52.670 -->
24:56.582yeah, uh, that goes along with it. And, and we're called
24:56.775 -->
24:59.934to, as the Spirit has filled our lives, to be
25:00.800 -->
25:04.825tempered, like to be in control of Right.
25:05.580 -->
25:09.338What? Yeah. Yeah. So the— and to stay on
25:09.675 -->
25:13.481the steel. So what you just said made me think
25:13.981 -->
25:17.609of this is like the whole purpose of tempering a piece of metal is
25:17.641 -->
25:19.777so that it can absorb energy.
25:21.254 -->
25:24.354If you don't temper it, it cannot absorb energy.
25:24.546 -->
25:28.224It'll just— like you said, it'll just explode or break.
25:28.626 -->
25:31.966Yeah. Yeah. Like, like I said, the— I think the highest form
25:32.014 -->
25:35.835of tempered metal is spring steel. Like it is made to
25:35.867 -->
25:39.527be able to withstand a bunch of energy.
25:40.024 -->
25:43.299Yeah, it's pretty cool. And so in the human
25:43.395 -->
25:46.862life, just making the connection there, or in the Christian life,
25:47.086 -->
25:50.681like self-control is a learned thing
25:50.794 -->
25:54.758that the Spirit produces in us over time. Like we ought to be getting more
25:54.822 -->
25:58.530self-controlled as we go along so that we're less
25:58.658 -->
26:01.864likely to explode when our wife
26:02.105 -->
26:05.694disrespects us, or, uh, you know, just give
26:06.194 -->
26:09.298in to crack cocaine in the parking lot, or, you know,
26:09.395 -->
26:13.112like whatever that temptation is, we are more
26:13.176 -->
26:16.332suited and more capable of dealing with that,
26:17.165 -->
26:20.626that temptation, that desire in the right way, right? Uh,
26:21.074 -->
26:25.000as opposed to maybe when we're young, it's like you
26:25.500 -->
26:28.060just give in to everything because you just— not much thought process, not a whole
26:28.560 -->
26:32.070lot of— yeah. Oh, okay. Control. Yeah, just a whole lot of movement.
26:32.570 -->
26:35.270Say yes to the waiter when he keeps asking. Yeah, appetizers.
26:35.770 -->
26:40.930Yeah, yeah, yes, we want spinach. That sounds great. Yeah, do y'all
26:41.430 -->
26:44.530order 3 appetizers now? No, no,
26:45.030 -->
26:48.240maybe one. Maybe. That is funny.
26:48.790 -->
26:52.030Um, uh, but with what you're saying though, Brian, I think of one scripture that
26:52.530 -->
26:55.110I wrote down that I wanted to look at, and I think it correlates here,
26:55.610 -->
26:58.712is James
1:19-20, it says, my dear brothers and
26:59.212 -->
27:02.453sisters, take note of this: everyone should be quick to listen,
27:02.793 -->
27:04.607slow to speak, and slow to become angry,
27:06.078 -->
27:09.849because human anger does not produce the righteousness that God desires.
27:10.286 -->
27:14.266So I follow that. Like, it doesn't say, hey, have self-control,
27:14.315 -->
27:17.961but it's, hey, you need to speak slow. That is what this is talking about.
27:18.106 -->
27:21.526Yeah, is don't be quick with your tongue and be tempered.
27:21.590 -->
27:24.719Yeah. Be tempered when it comes to your speech and
27:25.219 -->
27:28.421your anger. I think with men that's really important because that's
27:28.921 -->
27:32.296like our go-to default is, yeah, I'm gonna— you
27:32.796 -->
27:35.426insulted me, I'm gonna insult you back, or I'm gonna get angry, and I'm gonna
27:35.523 -->
27:38.750act in that, so I read that, and I think
27:38.766 -->
27:42.753back in my life. It's just as a younger kid I was
27:42.785 -->
27:46.256not slow to those, you know. I was gonna get
27:46.882 -->
27:50.006revenge, or you know whatever. I was gonna act out in my anger, and that's
27:50.022 -->
27:53.213something that God's taught me throughout the years. And it doesn't mean I don't
27:53.713 -->
27:58.315ever get tempted. I still do. And then I still fail at times. But yeah,
27:58.396 -->
28:01.600those are the scriptures I think of. That word mastery,
28:02.102 -->
28:08.344like to— and so to
28:08.765 -->
28:10.715have mastered that feeling, right?
28:11.729 -->
28:15.031To not allow it to master you,
28:15.418 -->
28:18.957right? To be able to rule over it. And I think that's really the— that's
28:19.055 -->
28:23.125the thread through all of this is through self-control.
28:23.814 -->
28:27.261Like, that's where, that's where all these fruits lead up to, I believe,
28:27.966 -->
28:31.942um, is, is being able to, uh, just rule
28:32.294 -->
28:35.933over, um, to rule over sin,
28:36.382 -->
28:40.261right? And not in the way maybe that, uh,
28:41.351 -->
28:44.221that face value it seems like it says,
28:44.638 -->
28:46.802you know, have the ability to just, you know,
28:47.202 -->
28:51.002white-knuckle through willpower. Willpower. I don't know. It's so
28:51.226 -->
28:53.823that there's— I think there's truth that, that, uh,
28:55.298 -->
28:58.583that goes with that, right? We need to have some willpower. We need to be
28:58.664 -->
29:02.110able to withstand some stuff, right? But I don't think that
29:02.206 -->
29:05.011self-control is only that.
29:05.796 -->
29:08.810Um, I wanted to read Matthew, uh,
29:09.098 -->
29:11.358chapter 4, um,
29:12.064 -->
29:15.750whenever Jesus went back to temptation, right? Yeah,
29:15.911 -->
29:18.844we— one of the very first episodes,
29:18.876 -->
29:21.681yeah, we talked about this and, and, um,
29:22.994 -->
29:26.646But Jesus was tempted in the wilderness
29:27.499 -->
29:31.570for 40 days, and he fasted for
29:31.602 -->
29:35.19640 days. Fasted for 40 days and then was tempted
29:35.407 -->
29:38.422at the end of it. And see here,
29:39.584 -->
29:43.472where does it say about food?
29:44.036 -->
29:47.167Okay, here we go. So the tempter came to him
29:47.667 -->
29:51.136and said, if you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.
29:51.315 -->
29:54.516Jesus answered, it is written, man shall not live on bread alone,
29:55.034 -->
29:58.445but on every word that comes from the mouth of
29:58.945 -->
30:02.243God. So it's not necessarily
30:03.811 -->
30:07.596Jesus is trying to power through this,
30:07.612 -->
30:11.106right? He's saying, no, I'm not going to allow my
30:11.333 -->
30:15.135hunger to rule over me, right?
30:16.106 -->
30:20.732And I think that that's the— you can take that analogy and Um,
30:20.796 -->
30:23.215kind of review, you know,
30:24.001 -->
30:27.414any of the fruits of the Spirit this way. Uh, love, joy,
30:27.606 -->
30:31.051peace, patience, you know. Um, which, that's what,
30:31.211 -->
30:34.208uh, after, after the garden, right?
30:34.416 -->
30:37.188And, um, I think it's Genesis 4,
30:38.422 -->
30:42.284Cain and Abel, right? Like, yeah, perfect. Sin's desire— sin
30:42.784 -->
30:46.466is crouching at the door. You must rule over— you must what? Rule over it.
30:46.594 -->
30:50.186Yeah, there's Yeah, the Strong's definition
30:50.603 -->
30:55.191that I wrote down for this word in kratia is the Spirit-enabled
30:55.691 -->
30:59.234mastery of desires, impulses, and habits
30:59.939 -->
31:03.292so that they serve rather than rule. That's right,
31:03.517 -->
31:07.350the believer, right? So not all desires,
31:07.623 -->
31:11.040impulses, and habits are bad, um,
31:11.858 -->
31:15.980by any means. Many of them God's given to us on purpose
31:16.480 -->
31:20.279is part of our humanity. Yeah, right. Yeah, we get hungry, we need to eat.
31:20.600 -->
31:25.347Yeah, right. It's the, it's the either overindulgence
31:25.411 -->
31:28.379or underindulgence in each one of those. I mean, this is the,
31:29.116 -->
31:32.164it is the picture of one ditch or the other, or like the
31:32.664 -->
31:36.077extremes of any issue. This is the epitome of balance,
31:36.093 -->
31:39.381right? Self-control is, I think, because that
31:39.881 -->
31:43.311is an art, it is a skill, it is something you have to master
31:44.818 -->
31:47.958that was too much, I need to come back, or that was not enough,
31:48.055 -->
31:51.420I need to go up, you know. And that— those are— I think it's
31:51.920 -->
31:55.170almost like that the brisket or the steel or the running,
31:55.234 -->
31:59.624like you only get that through time, right? And being open
31:59.737 -->
32:02.942to the Spirit's correction, that was off,
32:03.166 -->
32:06.195okay, I need to correct, I need to correct course. That was too much,
32:06.243 -->
32:08.887too little. Yep. I don't know. No, I agree.
32:09.914 -->
32:12.563Being open to the Spirit, that part right there I want to focus on because
32:12.724 -->
32:16.015we just read, you know, Jesus tempted in the wilderness, right? You know,
32:16.673 -->
32:20.077man shall not— his response is man shall not live on bread alone, but every
32:20.174 -->
32:23.803word that comes from the mouth of God, and that's the key right
32:24.303 -->
32:28.042there. I looked up a definition as well just to Google simple definition of biblical
32:28.234 -->
32:31.879self-control, and it said self-control in the Bible is defined
32:31.927 -->
32:34.769as power over one's own impulses, emotions,
32:35.122 -->
32:38.665and desires enabled primarily by the Holy Spirit rather than
32:38.713 -->
32:42.031human willpower alone, and I thought that that second part
32:42.531 -->
32:45.461right there is so important because so many times it's like I just got to
32:45.961 -->
32:49.357do better. I just got to refrain from these things, but we try to take
32:49.389 -->
32:52.899those matters in our own hand, and we're gonna fall into that sin. We're gonna
32:53.399 -->
32:56.907trip up every time, but I think it's important that as Christians that we
32:57.003 -->
32:59.600realize that it's not by my power. It's not by my will.
33:00.434 -->
33:04.585It's that I'm allowing God to work through me. I can't. It's being
33:04.698 -->
33:08.208humble enough to say I can't. I'm gonna fail. I'm going to
33:08.708 -->
33:11.958choose sin. That's what my default is. I have to seek the Lord on this
33:12.134 -->
33:15.675matter, and that it kind of to me that's
33:16.175 -->
33:19.553comforting because it's like, okay, it's not me trying to be this
33:19.762 -->
33:23.079person or this image or that, you know, whatever I'm trying to be or
33:23.271 -->
33:26.732however good I'm trying to be. It's that I can't. I have failed. I have
33:27.232 -->
33:30.386fallen short of the glory of God, but God, right? He has
33:30.498 -->
33:33.749given me this way, and Jesus He showed us
33:33.846 -->
33:36.915that way too. He didn't rely on His flesh, or His— He didn't
33:36.931 -->
33:40.167let His circumstances, His hunger,
33:41.123 -->
33:43.683He didn't let any of that affect Him. He said, I'm gonna look to God.
33:43.829 -->
33:47.377I'm gonna seek every word from His mouth, not mine, and it's
33:47.877 -->
33:51.154just a beautiful example, and one thing that I wanted to note— Casey,
33:51.170 -->
33:54.396were you going to say something about that? I was just gonna say I'm trying
33:54.428 -->
33:58.284to draw the line. I'm trying to think through in real time what's
33:58.784 -->
34:01.891happening, And Jesus doesn't deny his
34:02.391 -->
34:06.808hunger. He was hungry. Yeah. But he didn't allow his
34:06.904 -->
34:12.223hunger to control him, to have
34:12.723 -->
34:17.049authority over him. And so the line
34:17.387 -->
34:19.174is it wasn't God's will.
34:20.896 -->
34:24.857We talked about that, I think, whenever we were talking about Jesus's
34:25.357 -->
34:28.920temptation. Um, and, and I'm also
34:29.420 -->
34:32.959trying to thread the whole, you know, the Galatians theme of freedom, right,
34:33.633 -->
34:37.528within all of this. Like, self-control is what brings us
34:38.041 -->
34:41.424freedom. Now, Paul, Paul talks
34:41.924 -->
34:45.159about like the, the overarching theme— I think you said it,
34:45.415 -->
34:49.519uh, last Sunday— is, is that Jesus
34:50.019 -->
34:53.496purchased our salvation. Like, there is nothing—
34:53.672 -->
34:57.712this is— self-control has nothing to do about,
34:58.418 -->
35:02.201um, yeah, it's our salvation, our justification. Yeah, yeah, it's not
35:02.701 -->
35:06.176a salvation issue. But the, the freedom that we
35:06.676 -->
35:10.312can experience here now is through our self-control. And that's the
35:10.425 -->
35:13.535twist, right? We talk about the twist and the war on the word.
35:14.529 -->
35:17.943The twist is, is, is I think the world says,
35:17.975 -->
35:20.941well, self-control, that's limiting. Like,
35:21.101 -->
35:24.115that's rules, that's guidelines.
35:24.852 -->
35:28.315But actually, what I believe the scripture
35:28.815 -->
35:32.066is telling us is that, you know, it kind of flips the script on freedom,
35:32.082 -->
35:36.074on how the world sees freedom. Freedom isn't
35:36.410 -->
35:39.664the ability to say yes to all of our desires.
35:40.418 -->
35:44.104It's the ability to actually say no. Right, to— and,
35:44.184 -->
35:47.806and not allow that to rule, to rule over us. That is the context
35:48.306 -->
35:52.068of this whole passage, which I happen to be preaching this week. This was not
35:52.116 -->
35:56.122planned. That's awesome at all. I love it. But it starts with,
35:56.282 -->
36:00.208I say, walk by the Spirit and you will— what? Not gratify
36:00.993 -->
36:04.615the desires of the flesh. The desires of the flesh
36:04.695 -->
36:08.140are against the Spirit. These are in the Spirit are against the flesh, for these
36:08.640 -->
36:12.051are opposed to keep you from doing the things you want to do. But if
36:12.551 -->
36:15.706you're led by the Spirit, you're not under the law. And he lays out
36:15.834 -->
36:18.832the works of the flesh, the— what we would say,
36:19.024 -->
36:22.631like gratifying the desires of the flesh,
36:22.711 -->
36:26.141right? This is the result of no self-control,
36:26.318 -->
36:29.909right? And it's sexual immorality, it's impurity,
36:30.582 -->
36:33.996sensuality, idolatry, sorcery.
36:34.509 -->
36:37.651That's a— that's one that we can talk about here in a minute.
36:38.132 -->
36:41.756Um, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger,
36:42.351 -->
36:46.077rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness,
36:46.302 -->
36:50.462orgies, and things like these. Each one of those is an extreme
36:51.426 -->
36:54.799of when we gratify the desires of the flesh,
36:55.779 -->
36:59.104and self-control stands at the end here as the,
37:00.582 -->
37:04.003the solution, I guess, to that, right?
37:04.067 -->
37:09.346So you kind of mentioned safeguards
37:09.846 -->
37:13.802or something. Um, guardrails may be a right term
37:13.834 -->
37:17.232to use here, but like this part of self-control,
37:17.745 -->
37:22.105and that's that the Spirit is producing in us, is putting
37:22.314 -->
37:26.289clear boundaries. And those are, those are acts of wisdom,
37:26.337 -->
37:29.911and those are acts of freedom too within each individual Christian, because we're not
37:30.007 -->
37:33.277all the same. Like some of us can handle more freedom than
37:33.374 -->
37:37.226others. Some of us can can veer wider on the road than others, and,
37:38.109 -->
37:40.454and that's just part of it. But I think, um,
37:41.803 -->
37:45.240the twist— yeah, that there is— oh, come on, that's just—
37:45.834 -->
37:49.415quit being a prude, you know? Like, God,
37:49.993 -->
37:53.398God would want you to be happy, you know? So like, don't, don't put
37:53.898 -->
37:57.606a boundary in here. Like, but the reality is, in the garden,
37:58.682 -->
38:02.102God put boundaries in before the fall, actually.
38:02.440 -->
38:06.066What's the— what, what's the example? Don't eat from the tree. You can
38:06.130 -->
38:09.610have anything you want to eat except— he uses that.
38:09.691 -->
38:13.459I don't know if he actually uses it— except from this one tree, right?
38:13.700 -->
38:16.458So there's a boundary. Yeah, before the fall.
38:17.036 -->
38:20.275So boundaries are not a result of sin in the world.
38:21.045 -->
38:24.284Um, that was a result of our, I guess,
38:24.332 -->
38:27.716our humanness, our limitedness. Yeah, I don't know.
38:28.049 -->
38:31.390I don't know what your thought is because sin has entered the world
38:31.890 -->
38:35.115and grown rampant, like there's more boundaries. You know, it's not just the one.
38:35.179 -->
38:38.486Yeah, we need more now than we needed in the garden because of
38:38.986 -->
38:42.452our own sin. I mean, it talks about in Romans, right? We've created sin,
38:42.949 -->
38:46.658new sins and new ways to sin. We're evil as a
38:47.158 -->
38:50.415people, as humankind, right? Over time, we've created
38:50.915 -->
38:54.284all kinds of evilness, right? And so we have to have boundaries. It's not just
38:54.784 -->
38:56.821the one— don't eat from this tree— because we've opened the can of worms,
38:56.997 -->
39:00.769right? It's out. It's— everyone sees it, right? And we gotta
39:01.269 -->
39:04.475have boundaries. Yeah, control ourselves. I don't think you can conclude
39:04.975 -->
39:08.246anything else than that God's boundaries are meant for the good of us,
39:08.326 -->
39:11.807right? Of course. And, and so if that is a fact, then,
39:12.577 -->
39:16.476then, then staying in step with the Spirit is,
39:16.909 -->
39:20.343is to benefit us. This is for our— this is for our benefit
39:20.455 -->
39:24.803if we stay in step and we have self-control
39:26.044 -->
39:29.698Um, then I, then I believe that, that it is beneficial
39:29.730 -->
39:32.661for us. Um, and, and I, you know,
39:34.746 -->
39:38.617it's difficult. It is difficult. It's hard to stay in
39:38.649 -->
39:42.190step. It's hard to deny yourself, you know, to deny your
39:42.690 -->
39:46.215flesh, to deny these wants, um, and to take pride.
39:46.409 -->
39:50.642What was a boundary maybe your parents or the world or somebody
39:50.835 -->
39:54.262as an authority in your life put in that you thought
39:54.762 -->
39:58.090my word, I can't— I hate this. Like, don't tell me no. You know,
39:58.234 -->
40:01.094you, you just grated against. But now,
40:02.171 -->
40:05.320in, in your growing brain and maturity that we
40:05.820 -->
40:09.562have achieved, now you see it as like, oh, it's really good.
40:09.723 -->
40:12.744I needed that. Yeah. Is it— can you think of an example?
40:12.792 -->
40:15.765Probably curfew at that, at that age, uh,
40:15.845 -->
40:19.091where I was, you know, had sense enough to rebel.
40:20.343 -->
40:24.638Uh, curfew was good for me for sure because your parents said nothing
40:24.654 -->
40:28.357good happens after whatever time, and it was different for every
40:28.857 -->
40:32.252parent. Rex Lowry always said, if, if you can see those street lights on,
40:32.364 -->
40:34.704it's time to get your tail home. Yeah. Yeah. Wow,
40:35.313 -->
40:38.936that's good. Yeah, but as a kid, you're like, wow, I can
40:39.436 -->
40:42.558stay up late. This is when it gets fun. This is when everything— I'm gonna
40:43.058 -->
40:46.645miss out on stuff, and I can do it under the COVID of darkness
40:47.145 -->
40:50.520and whatever. And it's like like, you realize, oh, as you get older,
40:51.020 -->
40:53.660you're like, yeah, that's probably not best to be out at 1 o'clock in the
40:54.160 -->
40:57.760morning with— right, yeah, certain people. Yeah, right. Now if I'm
40:58.260 -->
41:00.900up that late, I'm like, I'm not up that late anymore. I'm like, no,
41:01.400 -->
41:03.100I need to go to bed. I want to be— I want to be in
41:03.600 -->
41:06.700bed. But yeah, and I think curfew is a good example. And it's
41:07.200 -->
41:10.160just the little things like, hey, don't do this or you're gonna get a whooping,
41:10.660 -->
41:13.880right? And it's like, no, I'm gonna do it. I mean, just out of spite,
41:14.380 -->
41:17.060you know, as a little kid. And I got in trouble, got whooping. And now
41:17.560 -->
41:21.160as a parent with little kids and it's like, Lily, don't do that. You know,
41:21.660 -->
41:24.940you're going to get in trouble and there's going to be consequences. And full circle,
41:25.440 -->
41:28.300right? It's kind of funny. It's kind of ironic. It was like, man, we're all
41:28.800 -->
41:32.420the same, right? We make— we just— we got to kick against the goads,
41:32.920 -->
41:35.680right? Like Paul. We're just— we're hardheaded,
41:36.180 -->
41:40.700stubborn as a people, I think. Yeah. Some more than others. So one,
41:41.200 -->
41:43.620one, one rule— You looked at me. No, because you're in front of me.
41:44.320 -->
41:48.270One rule I have in my house is, is we
41:48.770 -->
41:52.410need to do what we can. This isn't— well, I'm horrible at enforcing
41:52.910 -->
41:55.370this, but it is a rule. Like, we got to keep our— we need to
41:55.870 -->
42:00.030keep our rooms clean. Yeah. You keep your room clean and picked up and
42:00.530 -->
42:03.810no food. No food in the room. Right.
42:04.310 -->
42:07.430What about your room? Are you allowed to bring food in your room? See,
42:07.930 -->
42:11.130I clean up. Practice what you preach. I clean up after myself. I usually don't
42:11.630 -->
42:13.590bring any food in the room. I just pick up. I don't. Because that's how
42:14.090 -->
42:18.053I was raised. So I can't. Yeah. My wife does. Maddie loves snacks. It bothers
42:18.553 -->
42:21.971me so bad. It bothers me. No, I usually— Didn't you say something
42:21.987 -->
42:26.418about Debbie eating snacks in the morning? Yeah, she's a snacker.
42:26.740 -->
42:29.662Me too. So I caught Andrew the other day,
42:30.256 -->
42:33.451um, and they know, like, I, if I see them trying
42:33.483 -->
42:36.759to, they'll try to sneak a snack or whatever, you know, past me and I'll
42:37.259 -->
42:39.954be sitting in the chair. I'm like, back in the kitchen. But anyways,
42:40.693 -->
42:43.446um, And Mason,
42:44.742 -->
42:48.189Mason's— I'm gonna say it, he's my good kid. But he's
42:48.689 -->
42:52.150gonna make sure he kind of monitors the other 2 and he'll
42:52.650 -->
42:54.836let me know, you know, which I don't want him to be a tattletale.
42:54.901 -->
42:57.446And I get on to him every once in a while, which they all do
42:57.479 -->
43:00.803it. But some things we need to know, like,
43:00.819 -->
43:04.621tell me if you see a problem. Like Mason come into the living room
43:05.121 -->
43:10.182the other day and was like, hey, there is a pile of Goldfish on Andrew's
43:10.682 -->
43:14.171bed in the hall monitor. He said in there's ants
43:14.284 -->
43:18.029all over. So they had come in. So we've been in a drought and
43:18.094 -->
43:21.201ants are trying to get in at every crevice. And so they,
43:21.769 -->
43:25.387they, they're tearheads. So their
43:25.404 -->
43:28.681window was barely cracked and a stream of ants were
43:28.746 -->
43:32.226coming right in that window. His bed was covered with
43:32.275 -->
43:36.267ants. And so it's like, if you would have just— point proven,
43:36.315 -->
43:40.170right? Yeah. Follow the rule and had a little bit of self-control here
43:40.389 -->
43:42.869and not, you know, Yeah, but anyways,
43:43.626 -->
43:46.995what are, uh, what are the ditches on either side of the
43:47.495 -->
43:50.155road? Or if self-control is the, the middle way,
43:50.721 -->
43:54.038what is— what are the extremes? I would say for
43:54.103 -->
43:58.472one side, um, you can say overindulgence,
43:58.488 -->
44:02.026but I think it's just— I think it's a little
44:02.526 -->
44:05.354bit less than that. I think it's your desires, you know,
44:05.822 -->
44:09.192following yourself, your selfish desires, selfishness. Maybe that's
44:09.692 -->
44:11.720what it is. It's just I'm going to choose— for me at least, that's what
44:12.220 -->
44:15.320I'm thinking. Maybe y'all got better words, but I'm thinking, you know, if this is
44:15.820 -->
44:19.350self-control, this over here is selfishness. I'm going to choose what I want.
44:19.720 -->
44:22.480And this is what you can fill that in with X, Y,
44:22.980 -->
44:26.400and Z. And I wrote, I wrote license down from what I said on Sunday.
44:26.900 -->
44:29.980You know, there's one side was legalism and one side was license that I can
44:30.480 -->
44:33.050just do whatever I want because why? Because there's grace.
44:33.760 -->
44:37.720Yeah, there's forgiveness, there's mercy. Just excusing
44:38.220 -->
44:42.126indulgence under the heading of grace, right? Which is exactly
44:42.626 -->
44:45.194what you're saying. Yeah, I think of selfishness and then, um,
44:47.212 -->
44:50.452what did you just say? I said legalism on the other side.
44:50.500 -->
44:53.738So like, yeah, you said license. License. Yeah,
44:54.302 -->
44:57.653that was the closest I got to alliteration in a long time.
44:57.750 -->
45:01.501License and legalism. But legalism, right?
45:01.582 -->
45:05.975Substituting fleshly discipline for spirit dependent.
45:06.024 -->
45:09.571So control without Christ, right? Human rules that
45:10.071 -->
45:13.427have this appearance of wisdom but in reality do nothing
45:13.459 -->
45:17.336to help us. So yeah, like having
45:17.352 -->
45:20.540too many rules. Yeah. And saying like, well,
45:21.072 -->
45:24.196if, if you ever have a sip of alcohol, then you're
45:24.455 -->
45:28.037going to hell. Well, that's, that's— you can't support that biblically,
45:28.118 -->
45:30.776right? There is a boundary there, clearly. Yeah,
45:30.922 -->
45:35.143scripturally. But Legalism is the
45:35.528 -->
45:38.851one side of adding on to it, is adding on to the rules.
45:38.980 -->
45:42.833Like, don't take away nothing from it and don't add anything to it.
45:42.897 -->
45:47.184Yeah, it says what it says. It's taking self-control
45:47.684 -->
45:51.552and making it another requirement for salvation. Yeah, yeah. Yes.
45:52.065 -->
45:55.871Yeah, for sure. If you can't refrain from X, Y, or Z, then you're
45:56.371 -->
46:00.334not saved. Yeah. Self-control equates to spiritual
46:00.430 -->
46:03.541freedom. Then yeah, I think that maybe
46:04.041 -->
46:07.468the play, the play is, is that like, like I
46:07.968 -->
46:11.380was saying earlier, is that, that the world sees freedom as
46:11.812 -->
46:15.018no rules, right? And I think that,
46:15.034 -->
46:18.433you know, on the, like you said, the other side of the ditches,
46:18.769 -->
46:21.767it for, for, I guess, um,
46:22.729 -->
46:25.646I don't know, the, the Pharisees,
46:26.624 -->
46:30.375uh, is, is legalism. Yeah, we've got to follow all these rules
46:30.552 -->
46:34.060plus some. So just so we don't don't break these rules, we need
46:34.560 -->
46:37.120to make more rules around them so we don't even get close to breaking these
46:37.620 -->
46:41.620rules. Yeah. And that's the, you know, the how Eve
46:42.120 -->
46:45.720got it twisted in the garden. We talked about that too. It's like, not like,
46:46.220 -->
46:50.240you know, don't even look at it and kind of do it. Yeah. But on
46:50.740 -->
46:53.880the license one, I wrote down God forgives me, so it doesn't
46:54.380 -->
46:57.840really matter, right? God's gonna forgive me, so it doesn't really matter. Or that's
46:58.340 -->
47:01.500just who I am, like I, I can't help who I am.
47:02.000 -->
47:05.081I'm saved by grace. Yeah. Or like I'm giving in to this Yeah, thing,
47:05.417 -->
47:09.329whatever it is, because that's just who I am. Another one that's used, well,
47:09.345 -->
47:12.743God made me this way, which is, which is same kind
47:13.243 -->
47:16.895of the logic, right? Same logic. Yeah. But that gets like, now you're
47:17.395 -->
47:20.389blaming God for your sin, your own choices,
47:20.566 -->
47:24.028your own sin. That's taking it, that's doubling down. That's doubling down a little
47:24.528 -->
47:27.956bit too far. I can't help myself, as if like, if I just have
47:28.456 -->
47:32.011a feeling, have a desire, then I have to give in. Or I shouldn't
47:32.027 -->
47:35.121have to deny myself. God wants me to be happy. Like, God set me free.
47:35.714 -->
47:39.325Whatever the like shortened logic is, yeah,
47:39.341 -->
47:42.744of what's true, then taken to an illogical,
47:43.017 -->
47:46.484right, conclusion here that like, oh no, God actually puts
47:46.984 -->
47:50.705his stamp of approval on my extramarital unfaithfulness
47:50.882 -->
47:54.269because God wouldn't want me to stay. That's an unhappy
47:54.769 -->
47:58.522marriage. And I've heard that. Yeah, that's the ultimate form of circular
47:59.022 -->
48:03.033reasoning, right? Is, is just making sure we do that on ourself.
48:03.081 -->
48:06.546You know, it is what it is. Love is love. Love. Uh, we've talked about
48:07.046 -->
48:09.672a lot of that. Yeah. Uh, the just the kind of the circular, uh,
48:09.817 -->
48:12.927logic, being able to justify anything. And as
48:12.959 -->
48:16.455soon as you're confronted about it, I think that we, we tend
48:16.551 -->
48:20.544to take it the next level, right? Is that then
48:20.656 -->
48:24.023we, we, we try to rubber stamp, you know,
48:24.087 -->
48:27.823God's approval on whatever we're trying to justify,
48:28.096 -->
48:31.575and then we're unapproachable. You cannot— you can't approach me
48:31.944 -->
48:35.744because God God. Yeah, because this is what you're gonna say. God approves this.
48:35.873 -->
48:38.695What are you gonna say? So how dangerous is that? Yeah, right.
48:39.160 -->
48:42.736Very. Yeah, that is not, that is not self-control. Well,
48:43.169 -->
48:46.857I mean, that is opposite. That is the whole logic
48:46.873 -->
48:50.016behind much of the LGBTQ.
48:50.401 -->
48:54.618That's right. In the Christian world, the affirming— I'm
48:54.811 -->
48:58.659speaking to the Christian world that, you know, seeks to— some that seek
48:59.159 -->
49:02.833to affirm it or promoted or whatever. I, I understand
49:03.333 -->
49:06.365the, the non-Christian world, like,
49:06.606 -->
49:10.299they're in sin, this is what they do. Like, they don't know, they don't— they
49:10.799 -->
49:14.249shouldn't have the spiritual fruit of self-control, right? That just is what it is.
49:14.313 -->
49:18.456But the, the wrong logic within the affirming
49:18.809 -->
49:21.731Christian world towards LGBTQ is like, well,
49:22.245 -->
49:24.910that's how they were born, they can't help it. I'm like,
49:25.953 -->
49:29.242Some of my kids were born angry. That doesn't mean that they get to hit
49:29.742 -->
49:32.995their brother or sister. Yeah, some of my kids are born lazy. That doesn't
49:33.011 -->
49:35.898mean that I don't teach them to work hard and they just get to lay
49:36.398 -->
49:39.363around the rest of their life. I was born a lot of ways in,
49:40.614 -->
49:44.608in the flesh that are not good life.
49:45.282 -->
49:49.067And, and just logically, that doesn't make any sense in
49:49.567 -->
49:52.628our— if, if you're creating a nation and you just go,
49:52.724 -->
49:57.134well, we can't really try him for this crime because do
49:57.634 -->
50:00.533you know how much he really wanted to steal that that night?
50:00.982 -->
50:04.782Like, he couldn't help it. He just had to give in. But that logic
50:04.846 -->
50:08.021doesn't work in any other area. And so just to go, well,
50:08.999 -->
50:11.998I feel a desire to sleep with men— that,
50:12.767 -->
50:16.648okay, that's fine. I believe you do. That does not mean that it's
50:17.148 -->
50:20.159a good desire, right? We have to evaluate. You should act on it.
50:20.319 -->
50:24.023Is a desire good. The height of immaturity is
50:24.487 -->
50:27.341impulse, which is I feel something,
50:27.613 -->
50:31.941I give into it. Yeah, that is the height of immaturity. Not like—
50:32.441 -->
50:35.324we were a bunch of toddlers at that point, and that's what it feels like
50:35.824 -->
50:38.979in this whole movement. And I think we have to speak
50:39.479 -->
50:42.874out as Christians and say, like, every single
50:42.906 -->
50:46.481one of us has to learn to practice self-control. It may not be for
50:46.981 -->
50:49.462me. I've never once had the desire, I want to sleep with a man.
50:49.655 -->
50:52.861That's great, but I've got to practice self-control in
50:53.361 -->
50:56.634a lot a lot of other areas too. It's not just in sexuality. Yeah,
50:56.859 -->
51:00.007it's in every area of my life. You talked about words
51:00.507 -->
51:03.733and anger and money. Money. We listed a huge list right there, right?
51:03.926 -->
51:07.202Yeah. So Paul says it in Colossians, he says it in— Peter
51:07.218 -->
51:10.173says it in so many. It's echoed, right? All these different lists of,
51:10.912 -->
51:13.723of the opposites of the fruits of the Spirit, right? Yeah. And I think a
51:14.223 -->
51:17.111good, good thing for Christians whenever they're faced with that, like, well, this is the
51:17.611 -->
51:20.756way they were born, you got to counter that with like, you're right.
51:21.109 -->
51:24.223Yeah, I agree. Okay, maybe you were born in— we were all born into sin,
51:24.335 -->
51:27.818right? And I know that's a whole controversy. Some people like, well, babies don't sin
51:27.930 -->
51:31.011and all that. And I don't know, with a sin nature, we are born with
51:31.511 -->
51:34.992a sin nature into a broken world. And yeah, that desire may be there like
51:35.492 -->
51:38.506you're saying. Doesn't mean it's a good one. Doesn't mean, oh well, I just got
51:39.006 -->
51:41.267to go with it. No, it's like you said, we all have our own different
51:41.283 -->
51:45.038sin that we struggle with, and some similar, some different. And you
51:45.538 -->
51:48.936gotta— you I say you got to overcome it, but it's actually
51:49.049 -->
51:51.535easier than that. You got to give it over to God. You got to surrender
51:52.035 -->
51:55.513it, right? And that's putting the ball in God's court, and that's a good thing
51:55.545 -->
51:58.641because I can't overcome my sin alone.
51:59.219 -->
52:03.229I need God's Spirit, you know, and I grow that with a
52:03.729 -->
52:07.191relationship over time, you know, and God's Word. If I'm
52:07.255 -->
52:10.592learning— if this is what I'm putting in, you know, what comes out is
52:10.608 -->
52:14.009godly. I still sin. I still mess up, but it's like,
52:14.378 -->
52:18.212what are we doing? Are we being intentional to grow that relationship and
52:18.712 -->
52:22.226and to learn more and more about God's character, and I think Christians
52:22.243 -->
52:25.614who are stumbling with some things probably aren't spending
52:26.114 -->
52:29.934time in the Word and in prayer and with like-minded Christians that
52:30.142 -->
52:33.033are gonna build them up, and I think that's— we gotta be careful who we're
52:33.533 -->
52:37.047surrounding ourselves with, what we're putting in, whether that's TV,
52:37.127 -->
52:41.093social media. There's a long list of stuff there, and just our friends.
52:41.205 -->
52:45.282There's so many influences, right? So what is it? Yeah, so what is God's
52:45.782 -->
52:49.212will? We have to keep that forefront, um, and I want
52:49.712 -->
52:52.966to bring back up the, the 4 Ps here because I think that this really
52:53.062 -->
52:55.918ties everything back in real nicely. This is a great,
52:56.287 -->
52:59.832uh, kind of way to, to end this series, um,
53:00.121 -->
53:03.554is, is self-control. Is we need to always
53:03.666 -->
53:06.650keep God's purpose in view,
53:07.099 -->
53:10.467and that's what Jesus did in the garden was Yeah,
53:10.547 -->
53:14.138I may be hungry. I have the power to turn these stones into bread,
53:14.650 -->
53:17.568and I very well could. But is that God's will? Right.
53:18.000 -->
53:21.382So through living for God, he was living for
53:21.882 -->
53:25.662God's purpose, not prosperity, not pleasure,
53:25.854 -->
53:29.284not his own power. Right. And so in all these
53:29.316 -->
53:32.441sins, I believe can be fit into, you know,
53:32.746 -->
53:36.737one of those 3 categories, which comes down to one category,
53:36.769 -->
53:40.641really, it's just selfishness. But in
53:40.818 -->
53:44.219the selflessness that we should live by is by
53:44.364 -->
53:47.604living for God's purpose and
53:48.104 -->
53:52.257to try to notice that in every moment
53:52.273 -->
53:54.785of every day. Like, it's impossible.
53:56.378 -->
53:59.805We should try, right? I think, I think we should try. The Bible says
53:59.917 -->
54:04.030we need to reach after this, but it also says you're going
54:04.094 -->
54:07.452to be terrible at it. Yeah, but I wanted to read a little bit more
54:07.484 -->
54:08.207of— I was thinking just before you go there,
54:11.738 -->
54:14.788one other ditch, and maybe it's more of a rut in the middle of the
54:15.288 -->
54:18.678road, is that we all have selective discipline, right?
54:18.839 -->
54:22.290So I may not struggle with homosexuality. Why'd you point at me?
54:25.416 -->
54:28.662I had to say that. You were gonna say something, remember?
54:28.807 -->
54:32.069I'm just kidding. I may not struggle with
54:32.085 -->
54:35.708that, but that doesn't let me elevate myself
54:36.208 -->
54:39.687above others because the reality is, yeah, I may be disciplined in some
54:40.187 -->
54:44.168areas of my life, life. I think every single one of us drives
54:44.668 -->
54:48.095in a rut of some sort, uh, from my experience
54:48.595 -->
54:53.032of the people that I know walking in the faith. Everybody's got a proclivity,
54:53.145 -->
54:57.280a propensity, whatever the word there is, towards something
54:57.392 -->
55:01.240that, that we wrestle with, uh, and so like
55:01.740 -->
55:04.814Proverbs
25:28 says, a man without self-control is like a city,
55:05.712 -->
55:08.806uh, broken into and left without walls, right?
55:09.335 -->
55:12.028And we like to build most of the walls.
55:12.861 -->
55:16.164We have some of the walls put back up, but nobody has it
55:16.664 -->
55:19.755all together. Yeah. And that's, I think, something to note here. Like,
55:20.059 -->
55:23.586we may not be in the ditch on either side, but there's a rut
55:23.843 -->
55:26.392in the middle of the road that we can get stuck in. So anyway,
55:26.568 -->
55:30.095well, I'm not— I'm not gonna veer from that because I think
55:30.595 -->
55:34.407that that's a great place to go to. And one thing that
55:34.907 -->
55:37.869I was thinking, uh, whenever I was trying to think about this is, is how
55:37.950 -->
55:41.412do you master something? It's like, now there has to be already a master.
55:42.198 -->
55:44.987There already has to— there has to be somebody that has learned the skill and
55:45.487 -->
55:48.930that teaches you. Now they cannot, cannot do it for you,
55:48.994 -->
55:52.521you know, they cannot learn it for you. You've got to put forth the effort,
55:52.601 -->
55:55.118you've got to put forth all the energy that it takes.
55:55.887 -->
55:59.189And to, to kind of go back to the, the steel analogy, uh,
55:59.253 -->
56:02.678because because when you said Proverbs and was,
56:02.888 -->
56:05.464was saying that, it kind of, uh,
56:07.461 -->
56:11.399had my mind go back to this. This is my favorite, all-time favorite
56:11.432 -->
56:14.182verse in the entire Bible, is, uh,
56:14.328 -->
56:17.143Proverbs. I got lots of favorite verses. This is the number one.
56:18.293 -->
56:21.345I think you've said that before. No, I've never said it. We're gonna go pull
56:21.845 -->
56:25.529the receipts. Never said number one. I've said favorite books. I've said favorite chapters.
56:26.539 -->
56:30.533One of, one of my favorite verses. Okay. All right. This is my absolute favorite
56:31.514 -->
56:35.191Proverbs
27:17, as iron sharpens
56:35.691 -->
56:38.628iron, so one person sharpens another.
56:39.800 -->
56:43.685So if your discipline is
56:44.360 -->
56:47.683better in this area, then you are
56:47.796 -->
56:51.794more well-equipped to lead somebody in that
56:52.227 -->
56:55.728fashion. Now, and I may be, I may have
56:55.776 -->
56:59.293another uh, discipline that is, you know,
56:59.759 -->
57:03.549exceeds yours in that particular area,
57:04.014 -->
57:07.130you know. And we're able to— this is what this verse means,
57:07.307 -->
57:10.904is, is to be able to sharpen one another. Which means,
57:11.113 -->
57:14.758like, I think about that, I think about, uh, steel and the temperance.
57:14.854 -->
57:18.420And so for, for one piece
57:18.920 -->
57:21.856of steel to be able— I've thought about this a bunch— to be able to
57:22.356 -->
57:25.919sharpen another piece of steel this one piece of steel has to have gone
57:26.031 -->
57:29.467through something. Like, you can't just take 2 same pieces of
57:29.967 -->
57:33.192iron and sharpen each other. No, it'll— you know,
57:33.320 -->
57:36.050what you're going to end up with is 2 dull pieces of metal.
57:36.307 -->
57:40.176Yeah, you've got to have an extremely hard piece to
57:40.304 -->
57:43.676be able to shave or sharpen, uh, an iron. And you
57:44.176 -->
57:47.144can do it. Like, iron does sharpen iron. I've seen it, watched it.
57:47.481 -->
57:50.917Like, it's, it's, it's It's very— yeah, I can
57:51.417 -->
57:54.706take a piece of hardened steel. You take a piece of tool steel and put
57:55.206 -->
57:59.024something in a lathe, you know, you can sit there with that one little
57:59.524 -->
58:03.921bitty piece of hardened steel and sharpen thousands
58:04.421 -->
58:06.650of pieces of pipe or whatever, uh,
58:07.999 -->
58:11.659and that, that one piece of tool steel will stay the same. It's been
58:11.868 -->
58:15.496through something. It's been through something different than this other
58:15.996 -->
58:19.329steel has. And so that's kind of the analogy, is, is that,
58:19.890 -->
58:23.819you know, for me to be able to teach somebody, I, I have
58:24.319 -->
58:28.117had to maybe master that. I've had to go through some experiences.
58:28.229 -->
58:31.885God's put me in the fire here and pulled me out. You've been refined,
58:31.997 -->
58:35.092and I've been refined and put me back in. And then,
58:35.285 -->
58:38.460you know, through these experiences, the comfort that you've received,
58:38.957 -->
58:42.565you've been given to comfort others. What you've gone through is there
58:43.383 -->
58:46.718benefit others. Yeah, and that's how you sharpen one another, right?
58:47.231 -->
58:51.176And, and I don't know, that's one of the reasons why not
58:51.224 -->
58:53.982only is it about metal, right, it's,
58:54.351 -->
58:58.023uh, it's, it's deep. It, it means a lot more than,
58:58.376 -->
59:01.904than face value. And so next podcast, we're gonna—
59:02.404 -->
59:05.239you're gonna give us a demonstration of this, right? Okay, breathing a machine and everything.
59:05.479 -->
59:09.023Yeah, we'll go to the shop. No, I, I've got a, I've got a,
59:09.264 -->
59:13.579uh, piece of tungsten steel or carbide
59:13.919 -->
59:17.336that you can— it's a knife sharpener, but still, and you can take
59:17.401 -->
59:20.867just a mild steel knife and literally shave pieces
59:20.964 -->
59:25.341of steel off of your knife just by putting
59:25.841 -->
59:27.674a little bit of pressure. We'll plug it in at the end of the video.
59:29.922 -->
59:32.922Byron knows how to sharpen a knife pretty well. No, that's too soon.
59:33.293 -->
59:36.697No, it's fine. It's fine. Part of the
59:37.197 -->
59:40.860issue with my arm is that my knife was too sharp. Yeah. I had given
59:41.360 -->
59:44.800it too much care, too much care and attention so
59:45.300 -->
59:48.740that it was very sharp. And if it had been dull, I would, I would,
59:49.240 -->
59:51.460it would have just— I think it was so pointy, like point, you had such
59:51.960 -->
59:55.700a fine point. Yeah, you just sunk in. I need a good point. You need
59:56.200 -->
59:59.600a good point on a knife, right? I don't know, I'm too dangerous with mine.
01:00:00.100 -->
01:00:04.400Really? Yeah. What you need is something like that. Yeah, that's exactly—
01:00:04.900 -->
01:00:07.180I told him get a Saddlebuster. I told him get a Trapper Case knife and
01:00:07.680 -->
01:00:10.730quit sharpening it. It doesn't have to be that sharp. Oh, it does. You,
01:00:11.230 -->
01:00:15.620you'll hurt yourself. Yeah, well, no, I've always been taught that the,
01:00:16.070 -->
01:00:19.170the less sharp a knife is, the more likely you are to
01:00:19.670 -->
01:00:22.650cut yourself. Like in cooking, depends. If you've got a dull chef knife and you're
01:00:23.150 -->
01:00:26.579like, you're trying to cut some tomato, it doesn't go through, and then it moves,
01:00:26.870 -->
01:00:29.230and then, I don't know, and then you end up cutting yourself. Whereas if it's
01:00:29.730 -->
01:00:33.210sharp, you're moving through it. For food, you need a sharp knife. The kitchen.
01:00:33.710 -->
01:00:37.309So I need a dull pocket knife, sharp chef knife. Yeah, that's right.
01:00:37.374 -->
01:00:39.925He's a butternut. Wow. Wow.
01:00:40.037 -->
01:00:43.262My whole world was turned upside down on Wednesday,
01:00:43.390 -->
01:00:46.342but that's okay. Um, I, I like,
01:00:46.438 -->
01:00:51.011uh, 2 Peter 1, verse 5 and 6. He says, for this very
01:00:51.511 -->
01:00:55.262reason, make every effort— well, this reason is he wants
01:00:55.762 -->
01:00:59.434us to escape the corruption that is in the world because
01:00:59.934 -->
01:01:03.413of sinful desire, right? Desire. So he says, for this reason,
01:01:03.846 -->
01:01:07.001make every effort to supplement your Faith with virtue,
01:01:07.552 -->
01:01:10.517virtue with knowledge, knowledge with self-control,
01:01:11.036 -->
01:01:14.739self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness,
01:01:15.237 -->
01:01:18.611godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love. So he
01:01:19.111 -->
01:01:23.125gives a list of similar
01:01:23.173 -->
01:01:25.951to the fruit of the Spirit, right? But his is kind of like an order
01:01:26.501 -->
01:01:30.948that each one of the virtues needs another virtue. But the
01:01:31.013 -->
01:01:35.389one at the center of all of them is the one self-control, right? That knowledge
01:01:35.487 -->
01:01:38.340without self-control, uh,
01:01:38.806 -->
01:01:41.978you know, is, is not good. Love, uh, I don't
01:01:42.123 -->
01:01:45.230know, you could go down that, that, that rabbit hole or
01:01:45.730 -->
01:01:49.013whatever, but, uh, I think self-control is like the,
01:01:49.385 -->
01:01:52.731the glue for each one of those, right? Um,
01:01:54.575 -->
01:01:58.024if we have lack of self-control, yeah, it's like what you said, all sin kind
01:01:58.524 -->
01:02:03.681of boils down to selfishness. And if we don't have any self-control
01:02:04.181 -->
01:02:06.825then we are just going to veer towards more and more selfishness,
01:02:07.440 -->
01:02:10.776indulgence. Whatever we want, we will do.
01:02:11.148 -->
01:02:14.186And so do you guys have any, um,
01:02:15.108 -->
01:02:19.197Bible stories off top of your mind that, that present a good example
01:02:19.294 -->
01:02:21.407of either self-control or the lack of self-control?
01:02:23.272 -->
01:02:26.779I wrote down a few. Okay, you want to share? Joseph and Potiphar's
01:02:27.279 -->
01:02:30.905wife. Yeah. Uh, Yeah, right, very easily.
01:02:31.430 -->
01:02:34.330Probably could have gotten away with it. Probably could have. Can you explain a little
01:02:34.830 -->
01:02:38.750bit for the audience if they're not familiar? Yeah, Joseph has become a trusted servant.
01:02:39.250 -->
01:02:42.770He's a slave because his brothers have sold him into slavery. He's a trusted servant
01:02:43.270 -->
01:02:46.710in Potiphar's house, and he rises up the ranks, and like Potiphar trusts
01:02:47.210 -->
01:02:49.930him with everything except for basically his wife,
01:02:50.430 -->
01:02:54.410or maybe he even trusted him with his wife. But, uh, one day
01:02:54.910 -->
01:02:57.570it's just them two in the room, and she— well, it was a series of
01:02:58.070 -->
01:03:01.544times, right? She tried to— yeah, it happens. Maybe, maybe, yeah,
01:03:01.624 -->
01:03:05.375maybe there was some lead-up one or two times before. I can't remember the specifics,
01:03:05.391 -->
01:03:08.822but, but then they were— it was a prime opportunity. She propositions
01:03:09.322 -->
01:03:12.733him and he flees, right? He literally
01:03:13.150 -->
01:03:17.142runs away from this temptation, leaves his coat. Yeah, she falsely
01:03:17.158 -->
01:03:21.823accuses him. He gets thrown in prison for this, but I'm
01:03:22.323 -->
01:03:24.997sure he had noticed her too, right? They've been around each other for a long
01:03:25.029 -->
01:03:28.860time. He's a slave. He doesn't have, uh, a wife or
01:03:29.360 -->
01:03:32.835any of that. And so, but, but he knew self-control.
01:03:33.043 -->
01:03:36.714And that's a perfect example of pleasure. I've got a power
01:03:37.214 -->
01:03:41.234one and you're gonna do prosperity, right? Sure. All right, so power,
01:03:42.003 -->
01:03:45.690uh, was, um, David and
01:03:46.190 -->
01:03:48.816Saul in the— that was my next one. That was my next one. Yeah,
01:03:48.832 -->
01:03:52.438I got you. Yeah, David and Saul in the cave. Yeah, he could
01:03:52.938 -->
01:03:56.240have took power right then, right there. Right, man. But it was not
01:03:56.449 -->
01:04:00.221God's will. It was not God's will, and he knew that, right?
01:04:00.301 -->
01:04:03.785And so there's, there's all— there's always going to be the line in
01:04:03.897 -->
01:04:07.477self-control. Is, is this God's will?
01:04:07.589 -->
01:04:10.848Is it his purpose? Purpose before
01:04:10.896 -->
01:04:14.219prosperity. Purpose before power. Purpose before,
01:04:15.070 -->
01:04:18.120um, what's my third one? What you got?
01:04:18.361 -->
01:04:21.973Pleasure? No, we did— I did pleasure. You said,
01:04:22.198 -->
01:04:25.584uh, power. You're doing prosperity. Prosperity. Meaning like
01:04:26.084 -->
01:04:29.770money. Yeah, I'm sure there's stories, but I was thinking I got a few.
01:04:30.395 -->
01:04:32.464I got other ones. I don't know if this is prosperity. I don't think it
01:04:32.964 -->
01:04:36.441is, but you said David, right? That was a good example of self-control,
01:04:36.970 -->
01:04:39.665not harming Saul in that moment when he had the opportunity.
01:04:40.402 -->
01:04:43.626Think about David in another situation where he fails and he falls into
01:04:43.930 -->
01:04:47.202pleasure, right? He sees Bathsheba on the rooftop bathing,
01:04:47.875 -->
01:04:52.163and what does he do? He sees with his eyes what he wants, He— scripture
01:04:52.260 -->
01:04:55.669pretty much tells us there's not an instance of self-control.
01:04:55.975 -->
01:04:58.805He sees what he wants. He sends for her, gets her, and he lays with
01:04:59.305 -->
01:05:03.649her and gets her pregnant, right? And then there's so much more sins that
01:05:03.681 -->
01:05:07.305come from that one initial sin that he— the lack of self-control led him
01:05:07.321 -->
01:05:10.510down a slippery path. So Joseph could
01:05:11.010 -->
01:05:14.379have sharpened David here. He could have
01:05:14.588 -->
01:05:17.926if they were alive at the same time. If they were buddies.
01:05:18.119 -->
01:05:21.590Yeah. David should have learned from Joseph here, right? He should have,
01:05:22.090 -->
01:05:24.450right? And I don't know, I don't really have one for prosperity. Maybe Solomon,
01:05:24.950 -->
01:05:29.410right? He, he's a negative example of like he gave in to—
01:05:29.910 -->
01:05:33.400but part of that's like God's blessing and God's using him as an example.
01:05:33.710 -->
01:05:37.190The rich young ruler, like unwilling
01:05:37.690 -->
01:05:41.210to walk away from, from all of his wealth in order
01:05:41.710 -->
01:05:45.190to follow Jesus. Yeah, so I think, yeah, I think prosperity is actually
01:05:45.690 -->
01:05:49.372a tough one. There's plenty of examples.
01:05:49.517 -->
01:05:53.654And I had— what I had pulled up on prosperity
01:05:54.151 -->
01:05:58.368is the Sermon on the Mount. Jesus says,
01:05:58.737 -->
01:06:02.585you know, to store your treasures in heaven. In verse
01:06:03.085 -->
01:06:06.80219, chapter 6, it says, do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth
01:06:07.059 -->
01:06:10.779where moths and vermin destroy and where thieves break
01:06:11.279 -->
01:06:15.815in and steal, but store up for yourselves treasures in heaven where moths
01:06:16.315 -->
01:06:18.978and vermin do not destroy and where thieves do not break in and steal.
01:06:19.813 -->
01:06:23.715For where your treasure is, there your heart will
01:06:23.843 -->
01:06:26.942be also. The eye is the lamp of the body.
01:06:27.375 -->
01:06:30.715If your eyes are healthy, then your whole body will be full of light.
01:06:31.373 -->
01:06:35.050But if your eyes are unhealthy, your whole body will be full
01:06:35.339 -->
01:06:39.337of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness,
01:06:39.401 -->
01:06:43.401how great is that darkness! 24. Here it is. No one can serve
01:06:43.417 -->
01:06:47.6102 masters. Either you will hate one and
01:06:48.110 -->
01:06:51.385love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other.
01:06:51.529 -->
01:06:54.646You cannot serve both God and money.
01:06:54.983 -->
01:06:58.020So there's this picture of service. There's this picture of,
01:06:58.678 -->
01:07:02.518of choosing your master, right? And choosing money
01:07:03.674 -->
01:07:07.208to serve money, or to— or, and that's a very stark,
01:07:07.289 -->
01:07:11.253like a very very thick line that Jesus
01:07:11.382 -->
01:07:14.351draws here, and I've thought about that a lot.
01:07:15.554 -->
01:07:19.294So money's big in the 3 Ps because
01:07:19.326 -->
01:07:22.776if I can make money, then I can buy my pleasure. If I can make
01:07:23.276 -->
01:07:26.772money, then I can have power, and it interplays within
01:07:27.272 -->
01:07:31.186each other, but usually it's if
01:07:31.686 -->
01:07:35.904I serve money well enough, then I will gain whatever
01:07:36.001 -->
01:07:39.949I want, whatever I want to. Uh, and so, and Jesus
01:07:40.029 -->
01:07:43.849warns— there's so many warnings over money in
01:07:43.881 -->
01:07:47.364the Bible. Like, and, and Paul— was it Paul
01:07:47.476 -->
01:07:50.702that said that? That was it. Jesus that
01:07:51.202 -->
01:07:54.458said that for the love of money— was Jesus? Jesus. Yeah. For the
01:07:54.958 -->
01:07:57.443love of money is the root of all evil. Uh,
01:07:58.150 -->
01:08:01.983man, that's— that That explains it right
01:08:02.015 -->
01:08:05.334there. And, and so how do we deal with that? Because we all
01:08:05.478 -->
01:08:08.668deal with money, we all deal with finances, we all deal with this.
01:08:09.149 -->
01:08:12.098Um, and it's one of those things that we need in society, right? I need
01:08:12.598 -->
01:08:15.737it. And the Bible also says— the Bible also says, Proverbs I
01:08:15.801 -->
01:08:19.729believe— it says that money can fix lots
01:08:20.229 -->
01:08:23.608of problems. I think it's Ecclesiastes. Is it? Maybe King Solomon. Yeah,
01:08:23.656 -->
01:08:27.008Solomon. Anyways, one or the other, Solomon wrote it. Yeah,
01:08:27.667 -->
01:08:30.736yeah, there's some, some level of self-control required with money.
01:08:30.864 -->
01:08:34.801Like, and wealth is a blessing from God, there's no doubt about that.
01:08:34.882 -->
01:08:39.172But at the same time, we can veer to the overwork,
01:08:40.506 -->
01:08:43.462doing scandalous things in order to make money,
01:08:44.764 -->
01:08:48.331whatever. We are now— it is not
01:08:48.831 -->
01:08:52.075serving our needs, we are serving it with our time and our life.
01:08:52.140 -->
01:08:55.305Life. And we have to be— that's a slippery slope as well. I think especially
01:08:55.805 -->
01:08:59.242for men, right? Yeah. Having self-control and knowing like, okay,
01:08:59.322 -->
01:09:02.616we don't have to have everything that everybody else has. Yeah. So I
01:09:03.116 -->
01:09:06.440think the biblical antidote is contentment, right? Like,
01:09:07.581 -->
01:09:10.891God meets our needs, and yeah, we might have some extra
01:09:11.391 -->
01:09:14.153sometimes, and we have— we get to do some fun things sometimes, but also sometimes
01:09:14.185 -->
01:09:16.804we don't. Yeah. And that's just the reality of it.
01:09:18.090 -->
01:09:21.710So yeah, that's an interesting one. Self-control with money.
01:09:22.210 -->
01:09:25.530Yeah, I think an interesting— even just how we spend though, right? I think about
01:09:26.030 -->
01:09:29.570it and yeah, spending like just not just buying something because it was on sale
01:09:30.070 -->
01:09:33.050or because I saw it and it's on sale, that's a good deal, I gotta
01:09:33.550 -->
01:09:36.250buy it, they're selling it for half off. I'm like, yeah, but you weren't gonna
01:09:36.750 -->
01:09:40.130spend $4,000 today, you know? Like, who cares if it
01:09:40.630 -->
01:09:43.170was $8,000? Uh, you don't have $4,000 to spend on this.
01:09:44.387 -->
01:09:47.744So self-control is impulse control as well in
01:09:47.776 -->
01:09:51.229purchasing. But yeah, yeah, how,
01:09:51.293 -->
01:09:54.392how can we, uh, steward what God has given us well?
01:09:55.549 -->
01:09:59.130Um, and what is God's will with what he has given me, right?
01:09:59.323 -->
01:10:03.193That's the question with it. Like, every moment, every moment throughout our day,
01:10:03.273 -->
01:10:06.132whether, whether we're fighting any of those 3 temptations,
01:10:06.790 -->
01:10:10.500is what is God's will here? And money is a very
01:10:11.000 -->
01:10:14.257difficult Um, yeah, because I've
01:10:14.757 -->
01:10:18.351worked hard for it. It's mine. I made it, you know. And it's like,
01:10:18.367 -->
01:10:21.418yeah, maybe generosity is another antidote. Yeah, yeah,
01:10:21.900 -->
01:10:25.721gratitude. Yeah, what you got. Yeah, so that's probably,
01:10:26.058 -->
01:10:29.494um, that's probably— there's some good filters
01:10:29.590 -->
01:10:32.625that we can put into play here, uh, when it comes to money.
01:10:33.604 -->
01:10:37.201Uh, one is, is, is how is it making you feel? Like, what do you—
01:10:37.233 -->
01:10:40.235what is it making you think? How is it making you act? Like,
01:10:40.828 -->
01:10:45.076is there— it like, you kind of, kind of watch some
01:10:45.576 -->
01:10:47.737folks that, that may have a little bit more, and it's like,
01:10:48.955 -->
01:10:52.081I'm talking about secular, uh,
01:10:52.706 -->
01:10:56.697rich people. Yeah, it's fairly obvious, you know, what kind
01:10:57.197 -->
01:11:00.208of attitude, what kind of spirit that,
01:11:00.400 -->
01:11:04.296that money will give, you know, give people. And so as
01:11:04.392 -->
01:11:07.838Christians, I think that maybe one, one, one filter is we,
01:11:07.854 -->
01:11:11.509we just need to be real careful of, of how this is making me act.
01:11:11.862 -->
01:11:14.715Am I— is it making me act maybe a little bit,
01:11:15.885 -->
01:11:19.588I don't know, more than, than, you know, what is— what does Paul
01:11:19.636 -->
01:11:23.227say? To, to not think of yourself more than you
01:11:23.727 -->
01:11:27.218actually are. Kind of give yourself a self-righteousness, right? Like, I'm higher than— exactly,
01:11:27.266 -->
01:11:31.242I'm elevated above. Yeah. So there's just people— there's the self-control,
01:11:31.498 -->
01:11:35.554right? That's, that's having that humility. Yeah, it's knowing humility.
01:11:35.682 -->
01:11:39.499It's knowing that there's humility. Doesn't matter what I got. Got. Doesn't matter
01:11:39.999 -->
01:11:43.658what I've achieved. It's, it's all God. It's in everyone. It's in every one
01:11:43.706 -->
01:11:46.436of the, the fruits of the Spirit. Oh,
01:11:46.565 -->
01:11:50.017humility, self-reflection, self-control, seeing yourself for
01:11:50.517 -->
01:11:53.567who you, who you really are versus, uh, what you
01:11:54.067 -->
01:11:57.389think you might be. I don't think self-control is achievable without humility because
01:11:57.889 -->
01:12:00.472it's like, to me, in my mind, maybe not, but that's like one of the
01:12:00.972 -->
01:12:04.808first steps. Like, how am I gonna refrain from this
01:12:05.033 -->
01:12:08.932if I can't even humble myself before the Lord. You know, it's— to
01:12:08.964 -->
01:12:11.209me, it's a no-brainer. You got it. That's where it starts for sure. Well,
01:12:11.225 -->
01:12:14.963that's the— I think the, that self-control is like the— is,
01:12:15.300 -->
01:12:18.748is maybe the sum of all of these. And that's kind
01:12:19.248 -->
01:12:22.069of— yeah, that's kind of how I view it. And that's why I think that
01:12:22.569 -->
01:12:25.870that's like the master is, is not really necessarily,
01:12:26.047 -->
01:12:29.303okay, I've got to— like I said, the willpower— I can't
01:12:29.335 -->
01:12:32.687just white-knuckle every, you know, every sin,
01:12:32.784 -->
01:12:35.606every temptation. No, will, uh,
01:12:35.830 -->
01:12:39.261self-control was actually being disciplined in love,
01:12:39.374 -->
01:12:43.029joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, and faithfulness and gentleness.
01:12:43.702 -->
01:12:46.973Right. And then that's where gentleness— there is an overlap,
01:12:47.149 -->
01:12:50.436I think, in gentleness. Yeah. I think there's an overlap in all of
01:12:50.936 -->
01:12:53.995them. There is. If you really start picking apart, you know, yes,
01:12:54.124 -->
01:12:57.507I think self-control, it takes all of them to really follow out.
01:12:57.635 -->
01:13:01.034But at the same time, it takes self-control to follow out every one of them.
01:13:01.242 -->
01:13:04.513It's kind of like a circle there, right? Yeah. And if I
01:13:04.529 -->
01:13:08.264want to be the best gentle, loving, patient man
01:13:08.616 -->
01:13:13.217that God's called me to be, I got to refrain from my tongue speaking
01:13:13.717 -->
01:13:16.968before I'm thinking. I got to refrain from anger. I got to refrain from a
01:13:17.468 -->
01:13:19.645multitude of sins. Right. And so,
01:13:20.399 -->
01:13:22.707yes, I think there's an order. I think it matters.
01:13:24.102 -->
01:13:27.388But you can go round and round kind of. And that's the cool part,
01:13:27.468 -->
01:13:30.674though, because like I said a few episodes ago, that may be the
01:13:31.174 -->
01:13:34.345point. Maybe it is. Don't try to— oh, I got to do all these 9
01:13:34.845 -->
01:13:38.085things. Just pick one and, and really focus on that one, and you're going to
01:13:38.117 -->
01:13:41.072start to realize, oh, I'm doing all the others. Yeah, you pull one out,
01:13:41.088 -->
01:13:44.154it's like a domino effect. Yeah. Or like Jenga,
01:13:44.170 -->
01:13:47.205you pull one out and they all fall. Start practicing one for sure.
01:13:47.671 -->
01:13:51.460Here's one more, uh, other way of application
01:13:51.960 -->
01:13:56.485or other connection here is just how does self-control and authority
01:13:56.598 -->
01:13:59.905or leadership— what is the, what is the
01:14:00.405 -->
01:14:04.143interplay there? Uh, in 1 Timothy 3 and in Titus the,
01:14:04.785 -->
01:14:08.394the qualifications for pastor, elder, overseer, uh,
01:14:08.539 -->
01:14:11.683one of them is self-controlled, right? It is a
01:14:11.763 -->
01:14:14.971requirement, uh, to be a
01:14:15.471 -->
01:14:18.837leader in the church, to be someone of influence and, and care
01:14:18.901 -->
01:14:21.869for the church. I was thinking about that, like, that's true.
01:14:22.735 -->
01:14:26.265Uh, it ought to be a requirement to be a self-controlled dad,
01:14:26.601 -->
01:14:29.649you know. To be a dad requires self-control if
01:14:30.149 -->
01:14:33.126you're going to do it well. Well, or to be a husband, or to be
01:14:33.754 -->
01:14:37.685a boss, right? And if you don't have self-control,
01:14:38.920 -->
01:14:41.925then it leads to, I guess,
01:14:42.120 -->
01:14:45.971disorder. It leads to chaos. It leads to impulse.
01:14:46.956 -->
01:14:50.367It leads to a lack of like, we don't know
01:14:50.867 -->
01:14:53.552what's going on because Dad's all over the place, or because our boss is all
01:14:53.617 -->
01:14:56.888over the place, or because our pastor's all over the place, right? So a,
01:14:57.739 -->
01:15:01.129um, even a connection, right? Um, in 1 Corinthians,
01:15:01.193 -->
01:15:04.470there's a lot of conversation about the gifts, and, and,
01:15:04.663 -->
01:15:07.458but it talks a lot about orderliness in worship,
01:15:07.859 -->
01:15:11.474um, and having order and not allowing, you know,
01:15:11.811 -->
01:15:15.425constant, you know, disruption or multiple people speaking at
01:15:15.925 -->
01:15:19.120the same time. And like, it kind of seems silly. I think I read a
01:15:19.620 -->
01:15:22.221lot of those. I'm like, where was that at? 1 Corinthians 14.
01:15:22.959 -->
01:15:26.362Um, but if you don't have a leader
01:15:26.746 -->
01:15:30.675in a church who's self-controlled, then the worship
01:15:31.175 -->
01:15:35.613and the church will not be self-controlled, and the organization will be impulsive
01:15:35.806 -->
01:15:39.478and chaotic and disordered, um, just like a
01:15:39.978 -->
01:15:43.166family or just like a business. If, um, right,
01:15:43.246 -->
01:15:47.415uh, it even connects to like how you handle conflict,
01:15:47.431 -->
01:15:51.536right? If you're not self-controlled, then you just retaliate
01:15:51.760 -->
01:15:55.002versus like listening, hearing the facts,
01:15:56.174 -->
01:15:59.272gently explaining the decision, and then
01:16:00.027 -->
01:16:04.618working through it together, you know. So that— I don't know, I think about self-control
01:16:04.682 -->
01:16:07.941and leadership like those are necessary.
01:16:08.053 -->
01:16:11.665Like it's a necessary ingredient to be a good leader, to be a
01:16:12.165 -->
01:16:15.261good pastor, to be a good dad, to be a good husband. If you don't
01:16:15.761 -->
01:16:19.226have self-control, it's gonna go south for you. I don't know, I don't know if
01:16:19.726 -->
01:16:22.897you have any thoughts on on that? No, I think so. Yeah,
01:16:22.913 -->
01:16:24.629like I said,
01:16:24.661 -->
01:16:28.331that's— I think the ultimate picture
01:16:28.492 -->
01:16:31.409is ministry, right? Whenever we're talking about the, the,
01:16:31.778 -->
01:16:35.545uh, fruits of the Spirit, I think the ultimate example
01:16:35.705 -->
01:16:38.943is when it comes down to our
01:16:39.443 -->
01:16:42.855responsibilities and our leadership within whatever it may be.
01:16:43.480 -->
01:16:47.103You know, Byron, your ministry is to pastor this church. Church. You know,
01:16:47.504 -->
01:16:50.726my ministry looks a little bit different than that, but it's like,
01:16:50.967 -->
01:16:54.623it should be held to the same standard. And to your
01:16:55.123 -->
01:16:58.342point, like, I need to take it all serious.
01:16:58.487 -->
01:17:03.104I need to have self-control in my marriage, in my fatherhood,
01:17:03.216 -->
01:17:06.343in my, you know, being a boss or
01:17:06.503 -->
01:17:09.918whatever the responsibility may be. I'm thinking like right now I'm in the
01:17:10.418 -->
01:17:13.622middle of doing budget for this next year. Yeah. And I used to get
01:17:14.122 -->
01:17:17.330real excited about this. I don't anymore. It's like, it's a chore.
01:17:17.667 -->
01:17:21.025It is a chore, and I don't— I'm not real thrilled about it, but it
01:17:21.525 -->
01:17:24.912is one of those things that is part of our church having self-control.
01:17:25.507 -->
01:17:29.507Like, we have to set boundaries on here's what we will spend and won't spend,
01:17:29.523 -->
01:17:32.993and here's, here's what's good use of our money and not good use of our
01:17:33.493 -->
01:17:37.427money, and let's agree to that together. And it takes a leader and lots
01:17:37.927 -->
01:17:41.331of leaders putting their heads together and going, yeah, that makes sense, no, that doesn't
01:17:41.831 -->
01:17:45.040make sense. It is is exhausting and it's a lot
01:17:45.540 -->
01:17:48.490of work. Yeah. And I'm sick of it. I'm almost done, but I'm sick of
01:17:48.990 -->
01:17:52.791it. And it's like, I don't know, I think that's one— that's a simple place
01:17:52.920 -->
01:17:56.756of like, if we don't have self-control with our
01:17:57.256 -->
01:18:00.030finances, we just look at the bank account and go, hey, there's,
01:18:00.672 -->
01:18:03.015there's a bunch of money in there, let's go. Yeah.
01:18:04.363 -->
01:18:07.653On vacation. Or as a church, it's like, hey, there's— look, look at
01:18:08.153 -->
01:18:11.550all this money, let's let's build a da da da
01:18:11.598 -->
01:18:15.302da da. And it's like, hold up, let's, let's have
01:18:15.802 -->
01:18:19.615some self-control here. Let's have some restraint and have
01:18:20.115 -->
01:18:23.142a plan and be good stewards and not just impulsively go,
01:18:23.206 -->
01:18:26.092yeah, that's cool, let's spend it. You know,
01:18:26.894 -->
01:18:30.116that sounds more fun some days. That sounds awesome.
01:18:30.437 -->
01:18:33.660Yeah, no, no, uh, no rail guards,
01:18:33.868 -->
01:18:37.443no guardrails on, uh— I like rail guards better
01:18:38.144 -->
01:18:41.039No real guards. That's the wording. Like, just do it.
01:18:41.361 -->
01:18:44.979But man, it's not good for an organization long term
01:18:45.479 -->
01:18:48.424and it won't lead to lasting. Well, when there's, when there's more and more people
01:18:48.924 -->
01:18:50.795involved, then the, the,
01:18:52.618 -->
01:18:55.569the catastrophe when it all falls down is way worse. Right.
01:18:55.779 -->
01:18:59.199The collateral damage is, is terrible
01:18:59.570 -->
01:19:03.168whenever it's just, you know, so I think there is different levels.
01:19:03.522 -->
01:19:06.667And so I think that that's why Bible holds holds, you know,
01:19:06.748 -->
01:19:10.068pastors and elders in, in a higher
01:19:10.388 -->
01:19:13.147standard is because, hey, what you do matters.
01:19:14.366 -->
01:19:17.494The decisions that you make are going to affect a lot of people. Yeah,
01:19:17.510 -->
01:19:20.702this says having leaders— I don't remember where I got
01:19:21.202 -->
01:19:24.423this from— but having leaders, uh, with self-control safeguards
01:19:24.923 -->
01:19:28.256ministers from scandal and fosters trust, right? You think about like,
01:19:28.818 -->
01:19:32.346we don't trust leaders who don't have self-control in just
01:19:32.411 -->
01:19:35.621general, not even in the church. But if a
01:19:36.121 -->
01:19:38.465leader's all over the place, you never know what's going to come out of their
01:19:38.965 -->
01:19:42.691mouth. You never know. I can name a few. The predictableness of their— yeah,
01:19:42.723 -->
01:19:45.583our current president is one of them. Past presidents,
01:19:45.599 -->
01:19:48.492most of our presidents, lots of our senators. I mean,
01:19:48.813 -->
01:19:52.766most of our leaders are not fostering trust because of their self-control.
01:19:52.911 -->
01:19:57.249They're all hypocrites. We just swap sides every 4 years
01:19:57.749 -->
01:19:59.113or every 2 years. Right.
01:20:01.009 -->
01:20:04.958Actually has self-control safeguards
01:20:05.055 -->
01:20:08.518it from scandal and fosters trust
01:20:08.550 -->
01:20:11.986that people can thrive under, you know, and organizations can thrive under.
01:20:12.034 -->
01:20:15.416So yeah, I had one scripture
01:20:15.497 -->
01:20:18.380I wanted to ask. I asked Byron a little bit before, but I'd pick your
01:20:18.880 -->
01:20:22.446brain too, Casey. 2 Timothy
1:7 says, for God gave us
01:20:22.994 -->
01:20:27.471a spirit not of fear, but of power and love and self-control.
01:20:27.906 -->
01:20:31.616So I was skimming through some verses. You know, what verses deal
01:20:32.116 -->
01:20:35.439with self-control? What instances? What stories? And saw this one,
01:20:35.714 -->
01:20:39.166and Paul's writing to Timothy, and he's telling
01:20:39.198 -->
01:20:42.215him God hasn't given us a spirit of fear,
01:20:43.087 -->
01:20:45.800so then what does He give us? You know, power,
01:20:46.528 -->
01:20:49.908love, and control. Those are things that we can— self-control. Those are things
01:20:49.924 -->
01:20:53.336we could receive from God, so do you think that
01:20:53.836 -->
01:20:56.916Paul is listing fear here kind of
01:20:57.416 -->
01:21:01.094as an opposite to those things? Like true power that God gives us, you know,
01:21:01.415 -->
01:21:04.945shows itself with love and self-control and many others
01:21:05.445 -->
01:21:07.882as well, you know, all the fruits of the Spirit, but do you think that
01:21:07.930 -->
01:21:11.236fear is kind of maybe an opposite here a
01:21:11.736 -->
01:21:15.569little bit? The fear of, well, I don't have self-control
01:21:15.617 -->
01:21:19.020over this. I'm just going to give into it. Maybe that's kind of how
01:21:19.520 -->
01:21:21.507my mind's wrapping around it. I don't know. Maybe I'm a little off there.
01:21:22.197 -->
01:21:25.499This word actually is a different word. It is. It's a— okay,
01:21:25.980 -->
01:21:30.244it's the word for like sound mind is how I remember. Like sober-minded?
01:21:30.869 -->
01:21:34.204Similar, but it's like the same. 2 Timothy
1:7.
01:21:34.621 -->
01:21:38.083It's the word that we also get wisdom from. Okay.
01:21:38.709 -->
01:21:41.289Like, uh, sophro, I think.
01:21:41.915 -->
01:21:45.650Um, so it's, it's the idea of like a wise
01:21:45.762 -->
01:21:49.123mind, a sound mind, a Uh,
01:21:49.575 -->
01:21:53.496yeah, like knowing what is wise in a certain situation. But there's self-control.
01:21:53.851 -->
01:21:57.402I'm just saying it could be translated slightly different. Yeah, the Greek
01:21:57.902 -->
01:22:00.951word is slightly different. It is a different word they have, but for English we
01:22:01.451 -->
01:22:04.161kind of boil it down to the same or similarly.
01:22:04.661 -->
01:22:07.984Yeah, the difference— not a spirit of
01:22:08.065 -->
01:22:11.805fear, but of a sound mind. I was thinking about that more
01:22:11.854 -->
01:22:15.604and more. Fear is like drumming up all the—
01:22:15.990 -->
01:22:19.776like reading into all the facts and creating a false narrative,
01:22:19.840 -->
01:22:23.899whereas a sound mind is able to like rationalize
01:22:23.996 -->
01:22:27.670and understand all the things. So yeah, they kind of are opposites.
01:22:28.167 -->
01:22:32.130And I can, I can control my emotions and not give in to the hysteria,
01:22:32.178 -->
01:22:35.483whereas fear leads me to the hysteria. Maybe. I don't know.
01:22:35.563 -->
01:22:38.291Maybe. Yeah, I don't have a great— I'm just trying to think through that verse
01:22:38.791 -->
01:22:42.029because it kind of— I think it's the same message that he gives the Galatians.
01:22:42.607 -->
01:22:45.994Right? It's the same message. He says, fan into a
01:22:46.494 -->
01:22:49.895flame the gift of what God— the gift of
01:22:49.991 -->
01:22:52.993God which is in you through the laying of my hands.
01:22:53.716 -->
01:22:58.339For the Spirit of God gave us— for
01:22:58.839 -->
01:23:02.400the Spirit God gave us does not make us timid, but gives us power,
01:23:02.529 -->
01:23:06.124love, and self-discipline. So it's the same. It's the same message.
01:23:06.686 -->
01:23:08.902And we're talking about the Spirit, right?
01:23:09.672 -->
01:23:13.284This is— these are fruits of the Spirit. So to The
01:23:13.784 -->
01:23:17.250whole point of the, of the fruits of the Spirit is for us
01:23:17.298 -->
01:23:21.152to learn the nature of God and to allow
01:23:21.457 -->
01:23:24.572him to master, to be our master,
01:23:24.765 -->
01:23:28.634right? And to learn from him. Like I said, God puts
01:23:29.134 -->
01:23:31.524us in the fire, he takes us out, he shapes us, he puts us back
01:23:32.024 -->
01:23:34.399in the fire, and he takes us out, he shapes us. And it's just this
01:23:34.899 -->
01:23:37.610process, and we, we tend to, uh,
01:23:38.799 -->
01:23:42.366whenever we tend to learn through all the experiences,
01:23:42.430 -->
01:23:45.836whenever we focus on God's will throughout,
01:23:46.351 -->
01:23:49.837throughout our life and throughout our trials and temptations. Do not
01:23:49.902 -->
01:23:52.585give us— the Spirit doesn't give us the spirit of fear.
01:23:52.794 -->
01:23:55.558No, I have experienced the fire,
01:23:56.072 -->
01:23:59.687and, and I'm ready to go back in. Yeah, like, I don't
01:24:00.187 -->
01:24:03.865have that fear. I'm not timid to, to face the, face the world because
01:24:04.365 -->
01:24:07.568I know know that God's Spirit is with me and he's
01:24:08.068 -->
01:24:12.201trying to produce these, these fruits within me. And yeah,
01:24:12.281 -->
01:24:15.567this is also very personal to Timothy
01:24:16.067 -->
01:24:19.479because Timothy is going through some struggling with timidity,
01:24:19.655 -->
01:24:23.214timidness. Yes, he is scared to pastor
01:24:23.438 -->
01:24:26.452and to proclaim the gospel. He's receiving some persecution.
01:24:26.644 -->
01:24:30.395Yeah, he's young. Don't let anyone look down on you because of
01:24:30.895 -->
01:24:34.387your youth, right? He's inexperienced. He doesn't feel like he was
01:24:34.579 -->
01:24:38.122naturally this, you know, loud, extroverted,
01:24:38.186 -->
01:24:41.023whatever, something that he feels like he needs. And so he's,
01:24:41.296 -->
01:24:44.999he's saying, I remember God's Spirit, that I laid
01:24:45.499 -->
01:24:47.660my hands on you. God's giving you this gift. Now go.
01:24:48.782 -->
01:24:52.629It's of power, right? You have the ability— that's
01:24:53.129 -->
01:24:56.236dunamis, right? Uh, of love. You can
01:24:56.284 -->
01:25:00.083go love these people. And of a sound mind, of, of self-control.
01:25:00.147 -->
01:25:02.889Like, you don't have to give in to your desire,
01:25:03.354 -->
01:25:06.644which is fear in this moment, or scared, you can overcome
01:25:07.144 -->
01:25:10.351that desire and do what's right regardless of that desire,
01:25:10.639 -->
01:25:13.095which, which shows self-discipline or self-control,
01:25:13.448 -->
01:25:16.673allowing that fear to have
01:25:17.173 -->
01:25:20.332authority over you instead of God's will having,
01:25:20.685 -->
01:25:23.654you know, yeah, expressing its authority through God's will.
01:25:24.360 -->
01:25:27.666Um, yeah, so one example, I,
01:25:27.906 -->
01:25:31.918I think that, like I said, the whole book of Galatians
01:25:32.418 -->
01:25:35.240is about freedom, right? And I, like I said, I think the sum of all
01:25:35.368 -->
01:25:38.978the, all the, uh, fruits of the Spirit is, uh,
01:25:38.994 -->
01:25:42.476self-control. And through self-control, I believe that
01:25:42.508 -->
01:25:45.637we experience the freedom that God intends us to.
01:25:45.798 -->
01:25:49.328That doesn't look like what the world, uh, calls freedom,
01:25:49.569 -->
01:25:52.971right? So for example, like, if,
01:25:53.404 -->
01:25:56.661if, if I don't allow money to rule
01:25:56.773 -->
01:26:00.354over me, if I'm not all the time serving money, okay, I've got
01:26:00.854 -->
01:26:03.115to go do this, this, and this, and this so I can have money to
01:26:03.615 -->
01:26:06.792do whatever this, this is. If I don't, if I'm like, no,
01:26:06.808 -->
01:26:10.244I'm going to allow what is God's will, I'm going to let God's will,
01:26:10.662 -->
01:26:14.146uh, you know, rule over me instead of the,
01:26:14.756 -->
01:26:18.144the, the will to, to earn money, uh, then it
01:26:18.644 -->
01:26:21.773has no, it has no hold on me. Then it doesn't matter.
01:26:21.998 -->
01:26:25.915You can— I'm, I'm free in, in this way that
01:26:27.281 -->
01:26:31.010I don't have to— I'm not trapped
01:26:31.252 -->
01:26:34.561by the desire to make
01:26:35.061 -->
01:26:38.813money because I know that God's going to take care of me through my experiences
01:26:38.990 -->
01:26:42.791that God's given me, and so it doesn't really have an effect
01:26:43.291 -->
01:26:48.529on me as it does the world, right? That's a simple example,
01:26:49.312 -->
01:26:53.916but I think that you can plug that into through just about any
01:26:54.173 -->
01:26:57.784area in our life when it comes to anger, when it comes to fear,
01:26:57.800 -->
01:27:01.025if it comes to money, if it comes to pleasure. You know,
01:27:01.105 -->
01:27:04.603there's a temptation for all— there's a temptation for all those. And it's
01:27:05.103 -->
01:27:08.647like the Spirit gives us that power to overcome those to where it
01:27:08.695 -->
01:27:11.985doesn't have any— it doesn't have any effect on that. And this is
01:27:12.485 -->
01:27:15.515a— this is a long— this takes experience.
01:27:16.013 -->
01:27:19.350Like, that's what I'm getting at with the, you know, with the— with the example
01:27:19.547 -->
01:27:23.812of the tempering of steel. Like, it's a, it's a long process.
01:27:23.925 -->
01:27:27.133This takes time. It takes experiences. It takes God
01:27:29.582 -->
01:27:33.126leading us and testing us and allowing that,
01:27:33.287 -->
01:27:36.407that testing to actually produce these
01:27:36.505 -->
01:27:39.013fruits really within our, within our lives.
01:27:41.610 -->
01:27:44.962Yeah, I totally agree, man. And I think kind of as we come here to
01:27:45.453 -->
01:27:49.210finishing it up, you know, and hey, if God's Spirit
01:27:49.226 -->
01:27:52.356is what helps us overcome things of this world, right,
01:27:52.677 -->
01:27:56.449we better be in tune with it, right? We better be seeking the Lord rather
01:27:56.529 -->
01:28:00.222than what's the newest trend or fashion or whatever
01:28:00.722 -->
01:28:03.753this world is throwing our way, right? And you've asked a lot this podcast,
01:28:03.769 -->
01:28:06.964Casey, what if we need to understand what God's will is, right?
01:28:07.429 -->
01:28:11.041And Jesus throughout the New Testament and Paul
01:28:11.202 -->
01:28:14.377and so many other writers tell us so many times that this was God's will
01:28:14.825 -->
01:28:18.287is this, this, this, and he gives different examples in different ways, but I think
01:28:18.787 -->
01:28:22.357of John
10:10 kind of to finish it on is that the enemy
01:28:22.857 -->
01:28:26.107comes to steal, kill, and destroy. That's the enemy's will, but I—
01:28:26.607 -->
01:28:28.751this is Jesus talking— but I come to give you life and give it to
01:28:29.251 -->
01:28:32.308you full or abundantly in some translations. Like that's what God wants.
01:28:32.452 -->
01:28:35.866He wants us to have life abundantly, eternally with
01:28:35.898 -->
01:28:39.568him, not separated, right? That's what God wants for us, which which is freedom,
01:28:39.600 -->
01:28:43.111right? That is freedom. So to understand that and to understand
01:28:43.611 -->
01:28:46.878God's character, it's fruits of the Spirit I think have been a great place for
01:28:47.378 -->
01:28:51.206us to start kind of early on in the podcast because through those we
01:28:51.706 -->
01:28:55.214find freedom. We find what true biblical
01:28:55.714 -->
01:28:58.501freedom looks like and not being bound by our flesh, bound by the world,
01:28:59.046 -->
01:29:02.444and ultimately we got to seek God. We can't do one of those fruits of
01:29:02.944 -->
01:29:06.035the Spirit without seeking God, and I think that's what we need to leave the
01:29:06.535 -->
01:29:09.627listeners with. We're gonna come back. We're gonna hit new topics. We're gonna continue continue
01:29:09.643 -->
01:29:12.501with the podcast. But yeah, I think we did a good job by hitting these
01:29:12.533 -->
01:29:15.615pretty quick early on. I think that laying the foundation,
01:29:15.904 -->
01:29:19.404the overarching purpose of all of it, the entire scripture—
01:29:19.516 -->
01:29:22.502what, what can we take as readers,
01:29:22.807 -->
01:29:26.724right, as listeners, as followers? What is, what is the purpose? And I,
01:29:26.885 -->
01:29:30.899I believe that the sole purpose is just to establish a
01:29:31.399 -->
01:29:34.575relationship with God, right? This is about relationships.
01:29:35.153 -->
01:29:37.865And so his Spirit gives us that ability.
01:29:39.084 -->
01:29:41.843I was thinking about this this weekend whenever I was in Fredericksburg,
01:29:42.613 -->
01:29:45.709uh, and Deb and I, uh,
01:29:46.864 -->
01:29:49.960got to, um, got to listen to some,
01:29:50.169 -->
01:29:53.890some music. And, and I was thinking of, of self-control,
01:29:54.163 -->
01:29:56.794and I was thinking of, uh, just, um,
01:29:57.307 -->
01:30:01.574walking in the Spirit and, and to live by the Spirit. And 20,
01:30:01.622 -->
01:30:04.911verse 25, it says, since we live by the
01:30:05.411 -->
01:30:08.213Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit.
01:30:09.740 -->
01:30:13.677So that in step, that's a— it's a— God wants
01:30:14.177 -->
01:30:17.525us to live in harmony with him. This is a— this is a dance.
01:30:17.605 -->
01:30:21.220This is a— this is a being— it's a walk. It's a— it
01:30:21.720 -->
01:30:24.802is a bad dancer to stay in step, right?
01:30:25.270 -->
01:30:28.733To stay in tune. And I'm thinking, well, you know,
01:30:29.555 -->
01:30:33.266to be in tune with the Spirit That takes,
01:30:33.587 -->
01:30:36.992you know, you need to know. It takes studying. It takes, yeah, it takes
01:30:37.361 -->
01:30:40.236looking into it a little bit. And can't be in tune with something that you're—
01:30:40.252 -->
01:30:43.368that's foreign to you, that you don't know. Yeah, you gotta, you gotta
01:30:43.866 -->
01:30:47.689invest, right? So yeah, that's a— it's— and it's a thing is,
01:30:47.962 -->
01:30:51.624and it takes a long, long time to learn how to know
01:30:51.656 -->
01:30:54.676whether or not you're in tune, and it takes experience.
01:30:54.949 -->
01:30:58.209And so, but once you do, here's the, here's the application.
01:30:58.634 -->
01:31:01.674Session. Once you do figure out that you're
01:31:01.819 -->
01:31:05.118out of tune with the Spirit, make the necessary
01:31:05.166 -->
01:31:08.656adjustment. Don't just sit there and play out of tune. Don't be out of
01:31:09.156 -->
01:31:10.356step. Be in time.
01:31:12.822 -->
01:31:16.415Yeah, be in time. Yeah. Anyways,
01:31:16.624 -->
01:31:19.814sorry, I'm done. That's good. That's good. That was a good way to finish it.
01:31:19.975 -->
01:31:23.053No, we're not. We're never out of words. All right, Byron, your turn. Go.
01:31:23.104 -->
01:31:26.550Out of words today. Yeah, maybe today we
01:31:27.050 -->
01:31:30.160are, but looking forward to— let me just let you in on a little secret.
01:31:30.210 -->
01:31:33.850We don't know what's next either. So you can look forward to next week
01:31:34.350 -->
01:31:38.070when the podcast drops and it'll be another word. I can
01:31:38.570 -->
01:31:41.750guarantee it. If there's any suggestions out there, let us know. Yeah,
01:31:42.250 -->
01:31:45.610that'd be great. Is there a comment section? Can they comment? Most of the people
01:31:46.110 -->
01:31:49.430that listen are our family members. They have our phone numbers. Yeah, they comment via
01:31:49.930 -->
01:31:53.250text. Just email Huntington First Baptist Church if you got a word. If you're like,
01:31:53.750 -->
01:31:56.610I want y'all to talk more about freedom or talk about this, please let us
01:31:57.110 -->
01:32:00.610know. We'd love to have some direction and be able to talk
01:32:01.110 -->
01:32:04.650about things that are helpful for you. So I think somebody needs
01:32:05.150 -->
01:32:07.850to pray. I don't know whose turn it is. Somebody professed that they would always
01:32:08.350 -->
01:32:10.770know whose turn it is. I did. Casey did. It's your turn. Well, I'm going
01:32:11.270 -->
01:32:14.210to go with it then. So let me pray. God, we thank you for today.
01:32:14.710 -->
01:32:17.510I thank you for each one of these, these men and just their lives walking
01:32:18.010 -->
01:32:21.130with you. I pray that you would help them just to keep in step with
01:32:21.630 -->
01:32:24.170the Spirit. I pray for each one of our listeners as they live in their
01:32:24.670 -->
01:32:29.282lives and going through their trials and difficulties and, and blessings
01:32:29.669 -->
01:32:33.586and seasons of joy. God, I pray that you would help them
01:32:33.618 -->
01:32:37.067to keep in step with the Spirit. God, may we not gratify the desires of
01:32:37.567 -->
01:32:40.847the flesh, but may we walk by the Spirit. God, and your Spirit will produce
01:32:41.267 -->
01:32:44.678self-control in us. God, so we thank you for the gift of
01:32:45.178 -->
01:32:48.803the Spirit in our lives, and we, we thank you for the relationship
01:32:49.303 -->
01:32:52.389that's possible through Jesus. I pray that you'd just be with us, guide us,
01:32:52.454 -->
01:32:55.511direct us, and And, uh, we love you, we need you,
01:32:55.527 -->
01:32:56.627we pray all this in your son's name.