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so I lost my last fight a split decision
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my hands will be banged up and I'm like
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should have stayed in sales man
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it's crazy but you know
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it's a it's a fun life man
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it's always exciting my own head of like
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I think overtraining is like
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it's kind of like insecurity
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well in
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according to your chart you're a beast yeah
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you're a beast and I was like
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look at my shirt I was like
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I got an eight pack I can run a 5:30 mile
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like you wanna tell me that
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she's like well
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this is what the chart says in that shop
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and I was like looking around at everybody
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and I was just like I just don't belong here man
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like these people are so happy
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welcome to the think in cursive podcast
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I'm Brandon Leonard
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and I'm so excited to share with you
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my circle of interesting people and conversation
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please like
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subscribe and share your comments along the way
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it helps our little channel more than you know alright
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here we go
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Nathan Rivera thanks for coming on thinking cursive man
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it's so good to see you it's been a while
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absolutely absolutely
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thank you for having me bro
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this setup is sweet um
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me and my buddy have been trying to
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we've been playing with this idea of
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starting a podcast and just having people on
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and talking to them about all kinds of stuff
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so when I saw this setup I was like
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okay we gotta do it bro
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this is awesome bro let's do it
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is he another uh is he another martial artist
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he uh
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he is actually he was actually my uh
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he was my welding instructor
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um five or six years ago
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um he's one of my best friends
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he he's the guy who I was telling you about
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that just started jiu jitsu um
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like a year ago
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he wrestled in high school and is like a unit
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like powerlifter
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like competitive powerlifter for many years
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he's actually teaching me how to back squat right now
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and it's like insane
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because I've never really like lifted weights before
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and like I had I don't know
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like 200 pounds on my back and I was like bro
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get this shit off me bro
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I felt like it's gonna snap my spine in half
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um but yeah
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he's just he's a
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he's a super good dude
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he actually ended up marrying me and my wife
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um just like a super strong like man of God
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just a unit um
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he like runs us
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young adults group that we're a part of at our church
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a really good guy with a lot of knowledge
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and he knows a lot of cool people
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so we were like let's do it man
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we're like figuring out my basement right now
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one half is martial arts related and workout related
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and the other half is undisclosed right now or
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you know it's
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it's up in the air so we're trying to figure it out
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yeah well what uh
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what church you go to uh
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vintage 2 42 it's over in Acworth
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um kind of
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but it's it's in Acworth
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you know mmm hmm
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close to downtown Acworth around there cool
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and how uh
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yeah I can't believe
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you're a professional bare knuckle boxer now
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that's crazy to me dude
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yeah sometimes I like after a fight
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my hands will be banged up and I'm like
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should have stayed in sales man
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ha ha ha ha ha it's crazy
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but you know it's a
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it's a fun life man it's always exciting
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well everything is sales
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you are still in sales yeah
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you know
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it's just now there's a new performance element
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and a little bit more uh
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risk of getting punched in the face
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yeah yeah
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no doubt yeah
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that is so wild to me I was gonna ask you this too
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you were talking about lifting
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like heavy weight stuff do you feel like it uh
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would slow you down any or
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like the guys who have too much muscle
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cause everyone like dude
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they clown me at the gym they're like
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like makeshift Crossfit workouts right
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um and then my last fight
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I was having a hard time putting this guy away
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so I was like alright bro
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the time has come
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so I have this strength and conditioning coach
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his name is Dan um
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he is a unit bro
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like college strength and conditioning coach
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um professional fighters like all over
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um and like every day his program was something new
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he watched all my footage
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like my film like
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if this is how you wanna fight
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and this is how you are fighting
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let's build around that it's like so specific
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like I was clapped my legs everything
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a broken thumb right now so I was like
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how I feel once I get back in the mix of like
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hard sparring but I
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like I've been doing creatine and like
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I have all these new supplement stacks for the morning
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and like really revamped my whole inventory
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these different areas uh
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strength conditioning being one of them
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like where do you get your information and guidance
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with all your supplementation
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one of the best teams in the world
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like the people around me are so knowledgeable
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um like I go to
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a lot of time I go to my guys at DFA Chiropractor
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they're up in Sandy Springs
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they are like I say chiropractor
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like I you know clinic
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he's um does the 400 hurdles unit right
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he was in he's just a professional all around
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like what you need
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so like I really go to them for a lot of stuff
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a lot of heart and soil stuff
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just to see how I feel with like beef organs
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um I'm taking like obviously the
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like the basics like vitamin d
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zinc and like
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from heart and soil also called like fire starter
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I don't know it's just making me hot all the time
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when I'm working out and I'm just
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they're kind of putting that together for me
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that kind of built out this day and night sleep stack
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like a different type of magnesium and zinc at night
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long winded I mean he's a professor
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everything you need to know about peptides
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don't worry about stacking all these supplements
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if you're not getting good sleep
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if you're not getting sunlight in the morning
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to limit your exposure to toxic relationships
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like all of these things that stacked
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you know it sounds pretty common sensical
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you know but at the same time they
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things happen you creep in and it's like
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wait a minute I don't need another supplement
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if I just downed a pint of ice cream
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yeah maybe I should see the sun every once in a while
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maybe I should stop playing video games for 10 hours
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yeah dude
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one thing that I've been so excited to get and I'm like
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trying to like save up right now for
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cause it's expensive is a chili pad
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have you ever seen those huh
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it is like I I get hot bro
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um like I'm
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I'm married and we have a king size bed
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and I'm used to like
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if it's hot over here
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I'm going over to this side of the bed where it's cold
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you know what I mean
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and that's not a thing for me right now
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so I'm like I'm getting so hot
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I'm waking up all the time uh
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so a chili pad is like
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I guess it's a somewhat of like a
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like a mattress
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it almost looks like a mattress protector
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but it's pumps like cold water through it
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um and it's OK
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like
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you can set the temperature to like whatever you want
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so I could say it's like 56 or 57 or 60
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and it like keeps you cool
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and it like lowers your overall body temperature
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and lets you hit that like
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you know like
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peak recovery time when you're sleeping
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and stuff like that
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so that's one of those things that I've been like
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I heard it from a podcast and I was like bro
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I need that and then I talked to my buddy
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that he runs in the Olympics
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and he's like this is the
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the biggest game changer for me
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he's like you spend 1/3 of your
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your life sleeping
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like you need to get high quality sleep
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that's always a compelling argument
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isn't it yeah
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I'm like sign me up bro
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sign me up you know uh
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Huberman's sponsored by the 8 sleep Bed
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which is like you know
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yeah Wi-Fi
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I didn't like that it requires a subscription
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but interesting
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but it's a smart bed that cools and or heats
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same kind of concept I don't have any of that
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but I do have a box fan and okay
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it blows air and it feels great haha
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yeah you know
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that that works pretty well
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I've seen the bed jet as well
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which just has a tube that runs
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you know into your bed and blows fans under your sheets
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that's not bad right
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um those are just
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yeah'cause I'm like man
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I would love to have one of these fancy beds
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but I'm like not quite ready to drop
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I don't know five yeah
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seven eight grand on a mattress but yeah
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I don't know spend a third of your life on it right
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yeah that's I mean
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I was really thinking about it like I'm 29
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I'm about to get into that like
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unk status where I'm like
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30s are here you know
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like I need to be getting good sleep yeah
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really good sleep
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so I think I'm gonna make the investment
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I you know
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there's a lot of stuff that I never had to think about
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and now I'm thinking about it like
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it's like a
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it's almost half of my training is like my warm up
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my recovery my um
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my little rehab I'm doing with the bands
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and everyone's laughing at you cause you're doing like
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grandma rehab you know what I mean
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and it's like dude
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this stuff keeps you intact and alive
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like I remember when I was in my early 20s
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I was just like wake up hungover
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still a little bit drunk
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be at practice on Saturday morning
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have the best practice of your life
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get Chipotle with the boys
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repeat and it was like peak performance
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like I didn't have to worry about anything yeah
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literally
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and now I'm like dude
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if I have a couple beers I'm like
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next morning I'm cooked yeah
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I'm cooked so it's
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it's it's interesting bro
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the the changes I've been
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I've been kind of discovering
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you know
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you know I
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when I was I trained on like 13 years of Crossfit
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I did Crossfit this morning too
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but I'm just not as into it as I used to be
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cause I'm supplementing jiu jitsu
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and I try to skateboard once a week
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nice um
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nice just to do things that are fun
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but Matt Frazier was like the dominant competitor
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you know I don't know
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five or six years nobody beat him
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he just had a significant advantage
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um even if he didn't win every event
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um he won every games
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yeah and one thing that stood out to me is he said
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you know everybody's focusing on their performance
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I focus on recovery and he said
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you know sleep when it's cold
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make sure you're getting enough sleep
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wind down you know clear
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you know an hour before bed and and after you wake up
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you know free of blue light
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you know he even said
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um yeah
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sleep and sleep cold also
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you know experiment with uh
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waking up with light instead of sound
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which doesn't really work when you sharing a bed right
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with somebody but uh
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I thought that idea of focus on recovery
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cause I'm 42 now and I've been training
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uh in some sort of athletic thing since I was
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I don't know 15
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yeah and a lot of miles still doing jiu jitsu
404
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still getting cranked and dropped
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and all that good stuff and um
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you know and that's what has LED me to
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you know build the sauna in the basement
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I got a cold plunge in my garage
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nice and um
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try to find those ways to stay young
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obviously cutting drinking helped me yeah
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a lot um
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I'm just not into it as much as I used to be
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and well I'm not into it at all now
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but now I have a beer I mean
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I get a headache before I get buzzed
417
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that's where I'm at alright
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well that was fun while it lasted
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I guess yeah
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like it's a interesting idea
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I've heard a lot of people talking about like
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your next workout is only as good as your last recovery
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yeah and when I really started thinking about that like
424
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yeah bro like the minutes stacked to hours
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and the hours stacked to days
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and next thing you know
427
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you're looking across the ring from somebody
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that you've put in
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60 extra days than them in that one
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you know two month camp
431
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it's a lot of days you know
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or whatever you know
433
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you put in a lot of extra hours and it's just uh
434
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it's a it's a crazy thing to think about like you
435
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we always think about more more more more
436
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more and I
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I feel like recently I've been shifting to like
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more intentional work like not necessarily
439
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you know the quantity
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more of the quality and then putting more into recovery
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it's been it's been nice
442
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I've been having to like battle my
443
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my own head of like you know
444
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I think over training is like
445
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it's kind of like insecurity
446
00:14:06,650 --> 00:14:07,233
you know
447
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if you're not
448
00:14:08,450 --> 00:14:11,200
if you're not confident enough to train how much and
449
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and and not go over that
450
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you know my head in my head
451
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like when Tuesday rolls around bro
452
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I'm like I got so much more gas in the tank
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Tuesday's my my light day right
454
00:14:20,333 --> 00:14:22,483
so Monday's hard Tuesday's a little bit lighter
455
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Wednesday's hard and it kind of stacks that way um
456
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and Tuesday comes around and I just wanna get it bro
457
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like I just wanna sink my teeth in and go
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and I'll leave practice like having so much more
459
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and I'm having to battle that in like wind it back like
460
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you know take it back and go okay
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this is like I did my work
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like tomorrow's a hard day
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let's chill and that's not the easiest thing
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it's at least for me personally
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so yeah imagine man
466
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well it also
467
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it's gotta come with just years of being an athlete
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I mean you have to know your body and know your
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your you know
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payload understand when to back off right
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and like you can't just learn that overnight yeah
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you gotta hit the max and then
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you know you gotta vacillate between extremes
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before you can really find that middle ground like nah
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this is where I need to be yeah
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and you know
477
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I'm still trying to figure that out in jiu jitsu
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I'm like ah
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maybe I should you know
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as I don't worry about um
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gassing out as much as I do like my
482
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this pinky went this way the other day and
483
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you know my neck and back and wrists knees yeah
484
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yeah
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literally dude
486
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I um
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jujitsu I've gotten
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more injured from jujitsu than any other sport
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in my entire life like
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and I've also got more black eyes from jujitsu
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really than yeah
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and then I'm like a professional striker now and like
493
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don't do any jiu jitsu
494
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I go back to jiu jitsu and I catch an elbow or a knee
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or you know what I mean
496
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or you take somebody down and they're
497
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they're kind of sprawl and their hip hits you in the
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00:15:51,766 --> 00:15:52,766
in the face and you're like
499
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dang dude this is like I'm getting beat up over here
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like hahaha
501
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it's insane bro
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00:15:57,733 --> 00:15:58,400
it Jiu jitsu is a
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it's a fun sport and it's cool because like
504
00:16:01,850 --> 00:16:03,683
you get out what you put into it yeah
505
00:16:03,683 --> 00:16:04,400
you know yeah
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00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,200
if you really want to like immerse yourself
507
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in that you'll get so much out of it
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it's pretty cool
509
00:16:09,050 --> 00:16:11,333
see I'm not in the phase of life where I'm like
510
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really trying to test myself against the best guys now
511
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I'm like look
512
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I'm a hobbyist I'm a dad
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I'm middle aged uh
514
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you know I just want to have fun
515
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this is this is just fitness for me
516
00:16:24,083 --> 00:16:26,850
you know like this is just total entertainment
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00:16:26,850 --> 00:16:29,166
this is my recreation yeah
518
00:16:29,166 --> 00:16:29,366
yeah dude
519
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I
520
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I tell people all the time that they want to start like
521
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kickboxing or jiu jitsu um
522
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and I'm like dude
523
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if you like had a I don't know if you
524
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if you had a heart rate monitor on
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and you saw how many calories you burn
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from a jiu jitsu class
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00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,533
and you try to do that on the treadmill
528
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you'll be bored out of your mind
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like go scrap for three
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five minute rounds after practice
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you will be you will burn so many calories
532
00:16:52,533 --> 00:16:54,400
you'll be sore and muscle like you'll be like wow
533
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I didn't even know I had a muscle there
534
00:16:55,650 --> 00:16:56,333
like what is that
535
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what is that you know
536
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like
537
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it's so fun and it's such a good way to stay in shape
538
00:17:01,083 --> 00:17:04,800
and also like if you have that competitive edge to like
539
00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,200
have an outlet for that yeah
540
00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,400
it's awesome it's awesome
541
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and you cause you're
542
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I don't know my
543
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I kind of think about it like
544
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you're facing real life adversity
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like someone's trying to choke you out
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00:17:13,566 --> 00:17:14,766
it's a real life adversity
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like
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I need to get out of this choke or I'm gonna pass out
549
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you know yeah
550
00:17:19,683 --> 00:17:22,483
like a lot of the stuff that's kind of it
551
00:17:22,483 --> 00:17:25,566
it lets us get uh you know kind of wound up
552
00:17:25,566 --> 00:17:27,333
it's kind of trivial when you like
553
00:17:27,333 --> 00:17:28,566
go get it out over there
554
00:17:28,566 --> 00:17:29,850
and you face some real life adversity
555
00:17:29,850 --> 00:17:30,733
someone trying to choke you out
556
00:17:30,733 --> 00:17:32,300
or slam you on your head you're like
557
00:17:32,483 --> 00:17:33,766
alright man somebody cut me off
558
00:17:33,766 --> 00:17:36,066
I'm kind of I'm cool yeah
559
00:17:36,283 --> 00:17:38,100
I thought about this when I had uh
560
00:17:38,566 --> 00:17:41,900
Professor Alex and Rick is on just like that feeling
561
00:17:41,933 --> 00:17:45,966
that drive home after a day of training and just
562
00:17:45,966 --> 00:17:46,766
you know
563
00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,250
I especially when you're the hammer but you know
564
00:17:49,250 --> 00:17:50,733
even when you're the nail like
565
00:17:50,733 --> 00:17:51,483
you know when you're
566
00:17:51,483 --> 00:17:55,083
you're going home and you're like in silence exhausted
567
00:17:55,083 --> 00:17:57,550
no music exhausted no music on
568
00:17:57,566 --> 00:18:00,383
there is a level of peace that
569
00:18:00,650 --> 00:18:02,366
people just don't understand yeah
570
00:18:02,366 --> 00:18:03,733
you know yeah
571
00:18:03,733 --> 00:18:07,166
sometimes all your aggression out and you're like spent
572
00:18:07,166 --> 00:18:10,666
yeah physically spent just like bro
573
00:18:10,966 --> 00:18:12,200
let's do it again yeah
574
00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,683
you know like I gotta tap that one guy that got me yeah
575
00:18:15,683 --> 00:18:17,400
or that one guy finished a double egg on me
576
00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,133
like if I didn't you know
577
00:18:19,133 --> 00:18:20,933
if I bump the wall or bumped into my person
578
00:18:20,933 --> 00:18:21,566
you know like yeah
579
00:18:21,566 --> 00:18:23,166
you kind of like I'm gonna get that back
580
00:18:23,166 --> 00:18:25,283
it's so fun bro it's a blast dude
581
00:18:25,283 --> 00:18:28,200
I miss jiu jitsu a lot I always talk about um
582
00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,250
whenever I'm done fighting
583
00:18:29,250 --> 00:18:30,683
like I'm gonna become like
584
00:18:30,683 --> 00:18:34,650
a lab rat and shoot up all kinds of testosterone and
585
00:18:34,650 --> 00:18:37,050
like all kinds of stuff and just go to Naga
586
00:18:37,050 --> 00:18:38,833
blue belt division and just like
587
00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,366
have a blast you know
588
00:18:40,366 --> 00:18:41,450
like it's gonna be great
589
00:18:41,450 --> 00:18:42,600
it's gonna be awesome oh my gosh
590
00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,683
do you uh do you mess with any of the peptide stuff
591
00:18:44,683 --> 00:18:47,366
I don't man I don't I was going to for this thumb
592
00:18:47,366 --> 00:18:50,533
I I broke the thumb in honestly
593
00:18:50,533 --> 00:18:52,000
it looks like I broke it in three places
594
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,283
like it's broken all the way through
595
00:18:53,283 --> 00:18:54,683
but it happened in the first round
596
00:18:54,683 --> 00:18:56,800
and I did six rounds of my last fight
597
00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,333
so I just kept throwing it
598
00:18:58,333 --> 00:18:59,966
and so it's like shattered
599
00:18:59,966 --> 00:19:02,100
almost like there's pieces of it chipped off
600
00:19:02,133 --> 00:19:04,333
and the I was talking to this lady and she was like
601
00:19:04,333 --> 00:19:07,133
do you wanna like she was wanting to to work out a
602
00:19:07,133 --> 00:19:09,450
a deal with me and I was like honestly
603
00:19:09,450 --> 00:19:13,566
I did some research on it and like the risk for me
604
00:19:13,566 --> 00:19:15,533
I don't know if it was it would be worth the reward
605
00:19:15,533 --> 00:19:18,883
like I get maybe a month sooner and like
606
00:19:18,883 --> 00:19:20,266
I don't know if I have any
607
00:19:20,566 --> 00:19:21,800
I'm kind of a scaredy cat too
608
00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,066
so like I don't know if I have any tumors in my body
609
00:19:24,566 --> 00:19:25,933
that are just sitting there
610
00:19:25,933 --> 00:19:26,966
but if there's
611
00:19:26,966 --> 00:19:30,050
a possibility that it might increase them
612
00:19:30,050 --> 00:19:32,150
or make them grow faster or bigger
613
00:19:32,650 --> 00:19:34,050
I'll just heal this thing up
614
00:19:34,050 --> 00:19:35,800
you know but like I
615
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,966
I think that's just partially ignorant statement
616
00:19:37,966 --> 00:19:40,483
because I don't really know all about it
617
00:19:40,483 --> 00:19:41,983
you know I know they say like
618
00:19:42,533 --> 00:19:44,633
are there any cancers in your immediate family
619
00:19:45,250 --> 00:19:47,283
and if the answer is no it's usually safe
620
00:19:47,283 --> 00:19:48,933
but for me I was thinking to myself
621
00:19:48,933 --> 00:19:49,983
I mean that's like
622
00:19:50,650 --> 00:19:52,083
it's a lot of unknowns it's like
623
00:19:52,083 --> 00:19:53,166
oh you're probably fine
624
00:19:53,166 --> 00:19:54,683
so yeah I kind of just
625
00:19:54,683 --> 00:19:57,483
I stayed away from it do you do any peptide stuff
626
00:19:57,483 --> 00:19:58,450
yeah yeah
627
00:19:58,450 --> 00:19:59,266
I'm a
628
00:20:00,050 --> 00:20:00,733
well it's funny
629
00:20:00,733 --> 00:20:01,800
going back to what you said
630
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,133
I wouldn't consider you scared
631
00:20:04,133 --> 00:20:05,366
yeah yeah
632
00:20:05,366 --> 00:20:08,966
that's just maybe cautious is a better word
633
00:20:08,966 --> 00:20:09,766
sure right
634
00:20:09,966 --> 00:20:10,933
yeah like no
635
00:20:10,933 --> 00:20:11,566
I don't
636
00:20:11,566 --> 00:20:15,700
I don't think professional bare knuckle boxer is scared
637
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,200
um yeah
638
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,783
but see I also
639
00:20:19,683 --> 00:20:20,800
yeah I'm
640
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:21,883
I'm it's funny
641
00:20:21,883 --> 00:20:22,750
cause like
642
00:20:23,283 --> 00:20:25,050
I'm not too cautious
643
00:20:25,050 --> 00:20:27,466
these days about trying new protocols
644
00:20:27,566 --> 00:20:29,766
um with my injuries or
645
00:20:29,766 --> 00:20:31,183
or what not because
646
00:20:32,050 --> 00:20:33,533
well I'll tell you what changes it
647
00:20:33,533 --> 00:20:35,933
I was cautious and skeptical of all this stuff
648
00:20:35,933 --> 00:20:37,783
until I developed chronic pain
649
00:20:37,933 --> 00:20:40,333
and it didn't go away and I started to wrestle
650
00:20:40,333 --> 00:20:43,266
with the idea that this might be the new normal
651
00:20:43,450 --> 00:20:46,050
yeah and that's a terrible scary
652
00:20:46,050 --> 00:20:48,233
that is scary that is scary
653
00:20:48,333 --> 00:20:50,500
because when you're carrying this pain and
654
00:20:51,366 --> 00:20:54,283
you know and I'm the last 4
655
00:20:54,283 --> 00:20:57,250
5 years I've been reading a lot of medical books um
656
00:20:57,250 --> 00:20:57,800
actually
657
00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,500
good energy by Doctor Casey Means was a great one um
658
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,450
David Sinclair wrote he's interesting
659
00:21:05,450 --> 00:21:07,966
there's a lot of interesting brain energy
660
00:21:07,966 --> 00:21:08,950
good energy
661
00:21:08,983 --> 00:21:11,083
aging as a disease and how to prevent it
662
00:21:11,083 --> 00:21:13,650
there's all of this fascinating research and
663
00:21:13,650 --> 00:21:15,466
you know the amount of time to where
664
00:21:15,683 --> 00:21:16,450
try you know
665
00:21:16,450 --> 00:21:20,200
human trial tests that have passed all these uh
666
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,650
protocols like between uh
667
00:21:22,650 --> 00:21:25,583
when the American Medical Association approves
668
00:21:25,733 --> 00:21:29,433
a new study that has been human tested and proven
669
00:21:29,683 --> 00:21:31,250
between that point
670
00:21:31,250 --> 00:21:33,483
and when you'll actually get that treatment
671
00:21:33,483 --> 00:21:38,183
in your local provider in a big modern area
672
00:21:38,333 --> 00:21:40,483
uh an urban area like Atlanta yeah
673
00:21:40,483 --> 00:21:42,800
that amount of time is about 18 years
674
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,650
that's insane in rural areas like where I'm from
675
00:21:45,650 --> 00:21:47,450
it's 25 years wow
676
00:21:47,450 --> 00:21:50,133
so they're behind the ball a quarter of a century
677
00:21:50,133 --> 00:21:51,400
18 years yeah
678
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:51,933
that's insane
679
00:21:51,933 --> 00:21:53,883
that's the average you're done for at that point
680
00:21:53,883 --> 00:21:55,000
that's the average yeah
681
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:55,650
you're done you know
682
00:21:55,650 --> 00:21:59,050
like so we're not working with modern science and
683
00:21:59,050 --> 00:21:59,600
and you know
684
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:00,800
you start listening to Huberman
685
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,450
and start thinking about things like
686
00:22:02,450 --> 00:22:04,833
where can I take personal agency
687
00:22:04,883 --> 00:22:07,083
like take responsibility for what's working
688
00:22:07,083 --> 00:22:09,600
don't just blindly accept what your doctor says dude
689
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,183
I went into a doctor um
690
00:22:12,333 --> 00:22:14,366
I was in better shape then uh
691
00:22:14,366 --> 00:22:16,033
in training you know
692
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,200
way more Crossfit then um
693
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,683
but still about the same weight
694
00:22:19,683 --> 00:22:21,533
you know about 190 pounds
695
00:22:21,533 --> 00:22:27,233
5 foot 10 and uh my doctor's was a heavy set lady and
696
00:22:27,483 --> 00:22:29,683
you know I'm just getting an annual yeah
697
00:22:29,683 --> 00:22:31,533
and just nothing fancy and she's like
698
00:22:31,533 --> 00:22:32,883
well according to your chart
699
00:22:32,883 --> 00:22:34,600
you're a you're a beast
700
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,633
yeah you're a beast
701
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,133
and I was like look at my shirt
702
00:22:37,133 --> 00:22:38,400
I was like I got an eight pack
703
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,133
I can run a 5:30 mile like
704
00:22:40,133 --> 00:22:41,683
you wanna tell me that she's like well
705
00:22:41,683 --> 00:22:42,733
this is what the chart says
706
00:22:42,733 --> 00:22:43,133
I was like what
707
00:22:43,133 --> 00:22:46,033
what's your personal analysis doctor
708
00:22:46,083 --> 00:22:47,283
yeah I was like
709
00:22:47,283 --> 00:22:48,750
this could be our last visit
710
00:22:48,883 --> 00:22:49,650
it's insane I was like
711
00:22:49,650 --> 00:22:51,066
you know just to think about things for a minute
712
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:53,133
and you know
713
00:22:53,133 --> 00:22:53,933
it's um
714
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:54,450
she's like well
715
00:22:54,450 --> 00:22:56,366
I just gotta I gotta follow the protocol
716
00:22:56,366 --> 00:22:58,650
I gotta read what I have to say
717
00:22:58,650 --> 00:22:59,566
what I you know
718
00:22:59,566 --> 00:23:00,533
it's like alright
719
00:23:00,533 --> 00:23:03,266
you guys are just mouthpieces for this institution
720
00:23:03,333 --> 00:23:03,850
so yeah
721
00:23:03,850 --> 00:23:08,800
I'm a lot less trusting of like traditional medicine
722
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,533
um western medicine plus
723
00:23:11,533 --> 00:23:12,400
I mean I can be honest
724
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,583
like my mom is is
725
00:23:14,883 --> 00:23:15,333
you know
726
00:23:15,333 --> 00:23:18,850
a great example of why not to listen to the doctors
727
00:23:18,850 --> 00:23:20,933
when'cause the doctors will always come up with a new
728
00:23:20,933 --> 00:23:24,366
experimental treatment and if you just listen to them
729
00:23:24,366 --> 00:23:25,950
and don't take any personal
730
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,833
responsibility for your life yeah
731
00:23:27,833 --> 00:23:28,800
like we talked about uh
732
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,800
adding supplements
733
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,933
if you're still like down in pints of ice cream right
734
00:23:31,933 --> 00:23:32,733
like right
735
00:23:32,733 --> 00:23:35,050
maybe you should have an honest look at your diet
736
00:23:35,050 --> 00:23:36,683
before you start you know
737
00:23:36,683 --> 00:23:39,133
supplementing with all these things um
738
00:23:39,133 --> 00:23:42,483
your sleep your exercise exposure to
739
00:23:42,483 --> 00:23:44,133
you know you know
740
00:23:44,133 --> 00:23:46,000
damaging relationships all these things
741
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:46,933
you should take account of
742
00:23:46,933 --> 00:23:49,883
before you start really going with peptide therapy
743
00:23:49,883 --> 00:23:50,966
or whatever but yeah
744
00:23:50,966 --> 00:23:52,766
I do mess with peptides no
745
00:23:52,766 --> 00:23:53,333
I dude
746
00:23:53,333 --> 00:23:57,933
it's so funny you say that because I was listening to a
747
00:23:57,933 --> 00:23:58,883
a video the other day
748
00:23:58,883 --> 00:24:02,633
and it was talking about the pharmaceutical company
749
00:24:02,933 --> 00:24:05,850
how they are you know
750
00:24:05,850 --> 00:24:07,783
98% of them are petroleum based
751
00:24:07,883 --> 00:24:10,333
and the Rockefellers own that
752
00:24:10,333 --> 00:24:13,183
and then there is like a whole another
753
00:24:14,650 --> 00:24:16,733
story of this video where it talks about
754
00:24:16,733 --> 00:24:18,683
how they went through each medical institution
755
00:24:18,683 --> 00:24:19,483
and either
756
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,400
you know bought them out
757
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,766
like gave them grants to teach this way of medicine
758
00:24:23,766 --> 00:24:26,250
or got them shut down somehow
759
00:24:26,250 --> 00:24:28,333
and how you know
760
00:24:28,333 --> 00:24:29,866
you fast forward 100 years later
761
00:24:30,683 --> 00:24:34,533
the pharmaceutical industry is 98% petroleum based
762
00:24:34,533 --> 00:24:36,033
which they owned all the petroleum
763
00:24:36,083 --> 00:24:38,766
and they went to each medical place and said
764
00:24:38,766 --> 00:24:41,266
this is the new standard for medicine
765
00:24:41,483 --> 00:24:42,533
here's a bunch of money
766
00:24:42,533 --> 00:24:43,933
to teach this standard way of medicine
767
00:24:43,933 --> 00:24:45,533
and then you know
768
00:24:45,533 --> 00:24:46,733
you look at where we're at and you're like
769
00:24:46,733 --> 00:24:47,083
oh wow
770
00:24:47,083 --> 00:24:50,366
we are not the healthiest of individuals and if we just
771
00:24:50,366 --> 00:24:50,683
you know
772
00:24:50,683 --> 00:24:53,966
like thinking for yourself I think is I don't know
773
00:24:53,966 --> 00:24:55,800
it's like a forgotten art right now
774
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,800
you know like we're such big consumers of like
775
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,000
we're just consumers you know what I mean
776
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,600
like fast fix man everything man
777
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:02,966
and that's something that I've been feeling like
778
00:25:02,966 --> 00:25:04,250
super convicted about recently
779
00:25:04,250 --> 00:25:04,933
is like
780
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,533
the things that I'm eating
781
00:25:06,533 --> 00:25:08,633
like we were pretty clean when it comes to like
782
00:25:08,733 --> 00:25:09,883
like no seed oils
783
00:25:09,883 --> 00:25:12,366
like turn the Wi-Fi off at night that like
784
00:25:12,366 --> 00:25:15,483
you know the whole nine when it comes to like my wife
785
00:25:15,483 --> 00:25:17,966
thank God she's like gonna help us live to 100
786
00:25:17,966 --> 00:25:19,033
you know but like
787
00:25:19,483 --> 00:25:23,600
we eat pretty clean and and all of our stuff is pretty
788
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,850
like pretty holistic also
789
00:25:24,850 --> 00:25:26,066
and and it's just
790
00:25:26,366 --> 00:25:31,266
it's interesting that it's almost impossible to do that
791
00:25:31,333 --> 00:25:34,750
like if you didn't have a decent income
792
00:25:34,850 --> 00:25:37,483
it's very hard it's very hard to do that
793
00:25:37,483 --> 00:25:39,333
like you go out to eat like
794
00:25:39,333 --> 00:25:39,650
I know
795
00:25:39,650 --> 00:25:43,083
I can name one restaurant that has like no seed oils
796
00:25:43,083 --> 00:25:45,966
where the food is organic and it's um
797
00:25:45,966 --> 00:25:47,166
like the eggs are far
798
00:25:47,166 --> 00:25:49,883
are pasture raised and the meat is grass fed
799
00:25:49,883 --> 00:25:52,966
like I know one restaurant and I'm like
800
00:25:52,966 --> 00:25:54,200
I've been I've you know what I mean
801
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,333
I've been around like I'm a foodie
802
00:25:56,333 --> 00:25:57,883
I love going to eat food and stuff like that
803
00:25:57,883 --> 00:25:59,983
so it's crazy how
804
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,133
where where we are as a
805
00:26:02,133 --> 00:26:05,283
as a society is so unhealthy
806
00:26:05,283 --> 00:26:06,250
that whenever you start like
807
00:26:06,250 --> 00:26:08,050
taking care of yourself and thinking for yourself
808
00:26:08,050 --> 00:26:09,166
you're looked at as like oh
809
00:26:09,166 --> 00:26:11,083
you're on a diet or you're this it's like no
810
00:26:11,083 --> 00:26:13,200
I'm just like living clean
811
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,883
like I'm just like Wanna be healthy you know yeah
812
00:26:15,883 --> 00:26:18,000
I hate my knees aching every day yeah
813
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:18,850
you know it's
814
00:26:18,850 --> 00:26:20,450
it's it's a really weird time man
815
00:26:20,450 --> 00:26:22,100
but I think there's a lot of um
816
00:26:22,566 --> 00:26:23,850
there's a lot of money to be made
817
00:26:23,850 --> 00:26:26,566
when people are sick and unhappy yeah
818
00:26:26,566 --> 00:26:28,683
so it's like kind of makes sense when you
819
00:26:28,683 --> 00:26:31,050
when you strip it back you know yeah
820
00:26:31,050 --> 00:26:33,283
it is fascinating um
821
00:26:33,283 --> 00:26:35,166
just how I I
822
00:26:35,166 --> 00:26:37,533
I I've got so many examples that come to mind
823
00:26:37,533 --> 00:26:38,983
of people that completely
824
00:26:39,483 --> 00:26:43,650
just accept whatever the doctor says
825
00:26:43,650 --> 00:26:46,166
the doctor will never give them nutrition counseling
826
00:26:46,166 --> 00:26:46,766
I mean there's
827
00:26:46,766 --> 00:26:49,200
it's nothing about what you're eating yeah
828
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,800
but food is medicine right
829
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,183
but even then if they were to give you that
830
00:26:54,333 --> 00:26:54,766
it would be
831
00:26:54,766 --> 00:26:56,883
how many people skewed would actually listen to it yeah
832
00:26:56,883 --> 00:26:59,183
and if it was from a medical institution
833
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,050
it would probably be so skewed yeah
834
00:27:01,050 --> 00:27:02,766
of what's like real you know
835
00:27:02,766 --> 00:27:05,483
like just like yeah
836
00:27:05,483 --> 00:27:06,200
like I mean
837
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,283
I like every meal almost is like red meat yeah
838
00:27:09,283 --> 00:27:11,050
heavy heavy in vitamins and this and that
839
00:27:11,050 --> 00:27:13,333
and like people are like
840
00:27:13,333 --> 00:27:15,766
you're gonna get heart disease and I'm just like
841
00:27:15,766 --> 00:27:17,083
I don't I don't think so
842
00:27:17,083 --> 00:27:18,266
I feel really good
843
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,083
I don't know yeah
844
00:27:19,083 --> 00:27:20,050
it's just it's crazy man
845
00:27:20,050 --> 00:27:22,600
no indications that your heart is failing you as no
846
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,250
you're an extremely well conditioned
847
00:27:24,250 --> 00:27:25,550
professional athlete
848
00:27:26,766 --> 00:27:27,600
it's insane man
849
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,400
it's insane man
850
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,433
and it's like people will live their whole life
851
00:27:31,450 --> 00:27:32,966
with that kind of thing yeah
852
00:27:32,966 --> 00:27:35,183
you know stuck in that way of like
853
00:27:35,483 --> 00:27:37,950
I mean even like little stuff like
854
00:27:37,950 --> 00:27:38,650
I don't know like
855
00:27:38,650 --> 00:27:40,133
like microplastics for instance
856
00:27:40,133 --> 00:27:42,900
like the like the older generation is like
857
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:43,850
it's fine it's fine
858
00:27:43,850 --> 00:27:44,283
it's like dude
859
00:27:44,283 --> 00:27:46,233
there's so many studies about
860
00:27:46,683 --> 00:27:49,283
what microplastics can do to you
861
00:27:49,283 --> 00:27:51,533
you know and it's like hard to eliminate them totally
862
00:27:51,533 --> 00:27:53,733
but it's like a
863
00:27:53,733 --> 00:27:56,783
an effort to make a dent into that is like
864
00:27:57,133 --> 00:27:57,850
probably worth it
865
00:27:57,850 --> 00:27:59,083
but I feel like when you're 50 years old
866
00:27:59,083 --> 00:28:00,166
and you've been doing what you've been doing
867
00:28:00,166 --> 00:28:01,066
your whole life
868
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,233
there's probably not a lot of change
869
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,050
so I recently came across a cool little article um
870
00:28:08,050 --> 00:28:09,983
and I think it was doctor uh
871
00:28:10,733 --> 00:28:12,333
Ronda Patrick Ronda Carter
872
00:28:12,333 --> 00:28:13,150
no she's cool
873
00:28:13,283 --> 00:28:14,233
she's super cool
874
00:28:14,450 --> 00:28:16,166
she was talking about microplastics and
875
00:28:16,166 --> 00:28:17,766
you know obviously we all consume them
876
00:28:17,766 --> 00:28:19,333
they're in our clothes they're in our
877
00:28:19,333 --> 00:28:20,266
you know everywhere
878
00:28:20,433 --> 00:28:21,450
but also uh
879
00:28:21,450 --> 00:28:22,483
she said the good news is
880
00:28:22,483 --> 00:28:26,233
it's very easy for most people to flush them out
881
00:28:26,250 --> 00:28:28,300
particularly with broccoli sprouts
882
00:28:28,333 --> 00:28:29,566
yeah and she's like
883
00:28:29,566 --> 00:28:31,550
or you could take this supplement
884
00:28:31,583 --> 00:28:34,400
and it's basically from broccoli sprouts
885
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,600
and it will flush 98% of all the microplastics out
886
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,166
like that day she's big on the
887
00:28:39,166 --> 00:28:40,683
on the broccoli sprouts yeah
888
00:28:40,683 --> 00:28:43,566
I've heard her talk a lot about the broccoli sprouts
889
00:28:43,566 --> 00:28:45,333
um she seems pretty
890
00:28:45,333 --> 00:28:46,966
like sometimes I'll get through that podcast
891
00:28:46,966 --> 00:28:49,066
like one of her podcasts and I'm like
892
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,250
I don't know if I'm smart
893
00:28:50,250 --> 00:28:52,650
enough to like listen to this right now
894
00:28:52,650 --> 00:28:54,450
cause a half of it's like going over my head
895
00:28:54,450 --> 00:28:56,350
I'll get like 10% of the podcast
896
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,366
but that's really that's crazy
897
00:28:57,366 --> 00:28:58,466
I didn't know that you could
898
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,483
you could flush them out that easy
899
00:29:00,483 --> 00:29:00,683
you know yeah
900
00:29:00,683 --> 00:29:02,133
yeah with the right
901
00:29:02,133 --> 00:29:03,483
you know with the right diet
902
00:29:03,483 --> 00:29:03,966
yeah
903
00:29:03,966 --> 00:29:05,800
yeah I'm constantly trying to experiment
904
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,583
figure out where can I shed
905
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,933
you know things that are
906
00:29:08,933 --> 00:29:11,083
you know slowing me down or not supporting my goals
907
00:29:11,083 --> 00:29:13,966
and my goal is to be one you know
908
00:29:13,966 --> 00:29:16,483
one click more disciplined every year
909
00:29:16,483 --> 00:29:17,366
nice you know
910
00:29:17,366 --> 00:29:19,166
and I don't know what that means
911
00:29:19,166 --> 00:29:20,550
when I turned forty
912
00:29:21,683 --> 00:29:26,933
I felt a charge to stop trying to like
913
00:29:26,933 --> 00:29:30,300
white knuckle everything and see how
914
00:29:30,366 --> 00:29:32,850
see how smooth things go when I let go
915
00:29:32,850 --> 00:29:37,183
hmm so it was more like growth can look like Grace
916
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:37,650
yeah
917
00:29:37,650 --> 00:29:40,583
and also just quit thinking you're driving everything
918
00:29:40,733 --> 00:29:41,200
hmm let's see
919
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,100
so I started experimenting with
920
00:29:43,283 --> 00:29:43,566
you know
921
00:29:43,566 --> 00:29:46,883
not trying to drive my real estate career as much like
922
00:29:46,883 --> 00:29:48,250
let's just be hyper present
923
00:29:48,250 --> 00:29:50,833
and we know that kind of laid the framework for
924
00:29:50,933 --> 00:29:52,600
wanting to go into the podcast space
925
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,800
is just having intentional conversation with people
926
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,250
where I'm not distracted by the phone
927
00:29:57,250 --> 00:29:58,650
you know and now I find myself
928
00:29:58,650 --> 00:30:01,366
all my activities that I build around my life
929
00:30:01,366 --> 00:30:04,083
involve being pride away from my phone
930
00:30:04,083 --> 00:30:05,600
yeah with martial arts
931
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:05,850
you know
932
00:30:05,850 --> 00:30:09,566
being in the sauna or hiking or talking on this
933
00:30:09,566 --> 00:30:11,700
this show whatever um
934
00:30:12,083 --> 00:30:14,366
just separating and trying to be hyper present
935
00:30:14,366 --> 00:30:17,683
obviously when you're boxing or sparring or training
936
00:30:17,683 --> 00:30:19,733
like you're not thinking about your phone at all
937
00:30:19,733 --> 00:30:21,833
no you're hyper present
938
00:30:21,933 --> 00:30:23,400
I think that's why people get hooked
939
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,583
you know because you enter that flow
940
00:30:26,133 --> 00:30:27,483
you know same with jiu jitsu
941
00:30:27,483 --> 00:30:29,166
same with Crossfit yeah
942
00:30:29,166 --> 00:30:32,883
you know it's just nothing else is important anymore
943
00:30:32,883 --> 00:30:35,283
and especially with combat sports
944
00:30:35,283 --> 00:30:36,933
like there's really nothing
945
00:30:36,933 --> 00:30:38,566
more important than the guy that's in front of you
946
00:30:38,566 --> 00:30:39,500
trying to kill you
947
00:30:39,650 --> 00:30:42,766
like nothing else is like has my attention
948
00:30:42,766 --> 00:30:43,000
I think
949
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,266
that's probably why I was drawn to combat sports
950
00:30:45,450 --> 00:30:46,383
is because
951
00:30:46,883 --> 00:30:49,883
it was just the most exciting thing that I could do
952
00:30:49,883 --> 00:30:54,500
legally that was fun and kept me engaged
953
00:30:54,566 --> 00:30:55,283
and I didn't I
954
00:30:55,283 --> 00:30:57,450
you know everything kind of did get shut out for that
955
00:30:57,450 --> 00:30:59,533
like hour long of sparring on Monday nights
956
00:30:59,533 --> 00:31:02,933
or Saturday mornings I was very engaged in something
957
00:31:02,933 --> 00:31:03,433
you know
958
00:31:03,450 --> 00:31:04,250
oh tell me about that
959
00:31:04,250 --> 00:31:06,466
when did you start training martial arts
960
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,200
um well
961
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,600
so I I started doing like taekwondo
962
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,366
like every other kid in America
963
00:31:11,366 --> 00:31:12,733
you know goes to like a taekwondo gym
964
00:31:12,733 --> 00:31:14,533
cause I needed discipline self
965
00:31:14,533 --> 00:31:15,250
you know like
966
00:31:15,250 --> 00:31:15,933
like uh
967
00:31:15,933 --> 00:31:16,883
I had so much energy
968
00:31:16,883 --> 00:31:18,283
and I need to get it out or whatever
969
00:31:18,283 --> 00:31:20,000
so I did that for a long time
970
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,166
how old were you then I was 4
971
00:31:22,166 --> 00:31:23,200
you know like really young
972
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,283
but I don't even remember like I remember my mom
973
00:31:25,283 --> 00:31:27,333
she told me that when she would go to
974
00:31:27,333 --> 00:31:28,533
this was in Southern California
975
00:31:28,533 --> 00:31:30,983
when we would go to the grocery store
976
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,483
there was like a a gym
977
00:31:32,483 --> 00:31:33,766
like a martial arts gym next door
978
00:31:33,766 --> 00:31:35,200
and I was like obsessed
979
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,566
like my dad would take me over there and I'd be like
980
00:31:36,566 --> 00:31:38,133
watching through the glass and like
981
00:31:38,133 --> 00:31:39,900
I loved it and then I would watch like
982
00:31:39,966 --> 00:31:41,366
Bruce Lee movies growing up
983
00:31:41,366 --> 00:31:42,200
and then I would like
984
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,050
watch Manny Pacquiao box with my dad
985
00:31:44,050 --> 00:31:46,800
and like combat sports was so fun to me
986
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,050
and so I did that for a while
987
00:31:48,050 --> 00:31:49,066
moved to Georgia
988
00:31:49,283 --> 00:31:53,983
did taekwondo for a little bit and then I watched um
989
00:31:54,250 --> 00:31:57,533
like some UFC like WEC on YouTube
990
00:31:57,533 --> 00:31:59,966
I watched like the movie Never Back Down and I was like
991
00:31:59,966 --> 00:32:01,850
bro like jiu jitsu seems so cool
992
00:32:01,850 --> 00:32:03,633
so I went did some jiu jitsu
993
00:32:03,733 --> 00:32:07,166
um and that was interesting right
994
00:32:07,166 --> 00:32:09,966
cause I it was like felt like a fish out of water
995
00:32:09,966 --> 00:32:10,983
like I literally
996
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,450
and it was this high school at this point
997
00:32:12,450 --> 00:32:14,366
this was more like yeah
998
00:32:14,366 --> 00:32:16,483
I was like maybe 12 or 13 years old
999
00:32:16,483 --> 00:32:18,466
so a little bit before high school and um
1000
00:32:18,850 --> 00:32:20,600
I was in and out like I broke my arm
1001
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,500
like I um
1002
00:32:22,883 --> 00:32:25,083
I was doing a hip throw on this girl
1003
00:32:25,083 --> 00:32:28,533
and my hand planted and she fell on my arm and like
1004
00:32:28,533 --> 00:32:30,883
snapped it back and chipped this part of my bone off
1005
00:32:30,883 --> 00:32:32,483
and I was like whoa
1006
00:32:32,483 --> 00:32:34,566
that was insane don't ever wanna do that again
1007
00:32:34,566 --> 00:32:36,233
I wrestled for a year in high school
1008
00:32:36,283 --> 00:32:38,266
um and I just
1009
00:32:38,566 --> 00:32:40,083
I just did not excel in
1010
00:32:40,083 --> 00:32:41,933
in wrestling cause I was just for so many years
1011
00:32:41,933 --> 00:32:43,300
I was just like
1012
00:32:44,083 --> 00:32:45,600
I would just like pull guard or something
1013
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,283
if someone would take me down
1014
00:32:46,283 --> 00:32:47,333
I wouldn't fight it you know
1015
00:32:47,333 --> 00:32:48,283
and I just didn't have that like
1016
00:32:48,283 --> 00:32:50,166
dog in me to like be aggressive
1017
00:32:50,166 --> 00:32:52,000
like you have to be pretty aggressive in wrestling
1018
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,583
um and then I was in and out of of training
1019
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,483
like I was really like doing the bare minimum
1020
00:32:57,483 --> 00:33:00,050
I was working there as like a kids instructor
1021
00:33:00,050 --> 00:33:00,850
like a kids coach
1022
00:33:00,850 --> 00:33:04,083
so I had to like do enough to be there
1023
00:33:04,083 --> 00:33:05,133
and I had to be there a lot
1024
00:33:05,133 --> 00:33:07,066
but if I wasn't doing that
1025
00:33:07,083 --> 00:33:09,333
I probably would never have gone back to the gym
1026
00:33:09,333 --> 00:33:11,966
like I just was not interested in like training
1027
00:33:11,966 --> 00:33:14,366
I wasn't I was in the gym but I wasn't like
1028
00:33:14,366 --> 00:33:15,600
oh I wanna get better at this
1029
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:20,250
and then like 2,018 I was like okay
1030
00:33:20,250 --> 00:33:23,400
I really wanna like pursue this cause this is fun
1031
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,366
and I kind of stopped like
1032
00:33:24,366 --> 00:33:25,883
running around out in the streets
1033
00:33:25,883 --> 00:33:27,166
and getting in trouble and all this stuff
1034
00:33:27,166 --> 00:33:28,100
so I was like I
1035
00:33:28,383 --> 00:33:32,783
I could tell I was craving excitement and structure and
1036
00:33:32,883 --> 00:33:34,933
um so I started pursuing like my
1037
00:33:34,933 --> 00:33:37,333
my first goal was like to get a fight
1038
00:33:37,333 --> 00:33:37,450
like
1039
00:33:37,450 --> 00:33:40,933
I wanted to train enough to where my coach was like
1040
00:33:40,933 --> 00:33:42,133
okay you're ready for your first fight
1041
00:33:42,133 --> 00:33:46,033
so that took till I was like I think I was 20
1042
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,500
22 or 24 no 22 when I had my first fight um
1043
00:33:50,766 --> 00:33:54,183
and that was in 2020 January of 2020
1044
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,183
and I had my first MMA fight
1045
00:33:56,333 --> 00:33:59,333
and then ever since then it was just like over with
1046
00:33:59,333 --> 00:33:59,966
I was like okay
1047
00:33:59,966 --> 00:34:01,700
this is fun
1048
00:34:01,850 --> 00:34:04,800
and if I do it right and I play my cards right
1049
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,850
I can make a career out of this like sign me up
1050
00:34:07,850 --> 00:34:08,366
you know yeah
1051
00:34:08,366 --> 00:34:09,483
it was like a long shot goal
1052
00:34:09,483 --> 00:34:10,783
but it was one of those like
1053
00:34:10,783 --> 00:34:12,733
where you always had something to look forward to
1054
00:34:12,733 --> 00:34:14,283
you always had something to drive towards
1055
00:34:14,283 --> 00:34:16,733
and I think I really craved that even outside of the
1056
00:34:16,733 --> 00:34:17,766
the sport itself
1057
00:34:17,766 --> 00:34:21,200
that like one big goal that you wanted to chase
1058
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,650
even though it's like nearly impossible
1059
00:34:23,650 --> 00:34:25,466
it's very difficult you know
1060
00:34:25,566 --> 00:34:25,966
so that
1061
00:34:25,966 --> 00:34:28,266
that was kind of my upbringing in in martial arts
1062
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,500
yeah so at what point were you like
1063
00:34:32,166 --> 00:34:34,766
were you okay to say yeah
1064
00:34:34,766 --> 00:34:38,333
I'm not gonna prioritize like a career or you know
1065
00:34:38,333 --> 00:34:40,000
getting some promotion or something
1066
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,183
I'm gonna prioritize
1067
00:34:41,350 --> 00:34:44,566
developing my skills and becoming a professional ninja
1068
00:34:44,566 --> 00:34:47,683
it was probably like I think it was probably right
1069
00:34:47,683 --> 00:34:49,333
when I had that first fight yeah
1070
00:34:49,333 --> 00:34:50,683
like when I had that oh dude
1071
00:34:50,683 --> 00:34:51,850
I was like yeah
1072
00:34:51,850 --> 00:34:54,633
there's there's nothing else I wanna do with my life
1073
00:34:54,683 --> 00:34:56,366
at this moment than this
1074
00:34:56,366 --> 00:34:58,100
I had an office job at the time
1075
00:34:58,250 --> 00:34:59,566
and I remember going back to the office
1076
00:34:59,566 --> 00:35:00,800
I was in like commercial AR
1077
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,733
like calling insurance companies
1078
00:35:02,733 --> 00:35:06,533
like just mindless work like terrible
1079
00:35:06,533 --> 00:35:08,083
like I would never I did that for like six months
1080
00:35:08,083 --> 00:35:10,650
I jumped all around because I
1081
00:35:10,650 --> 00:35:12,566
it was just whatever worked for my fighting
1082
00:35:12,566 --> 00:35:13,950
so like I did that for a while
1083
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,133
then Covid happened everyone went home
1084
00:35:16,133 --> 00:35:18,450
I went to a buddy's house
1085
00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:19,533
I was like a new hire there
1086
00:35:19,533 --> 00:35:20,366
and I went to his house
1087
00:35:20,366 --> 00:35:22,883
and he kind of showed me the ropes from this
1088
00:35:22,883 --> 00:35:24,433
and then I started working from home
1089
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,450
then I switched from that to another job
1090
00:35:26,450 --> 00:35:27,766
because it worked better for my schedule
1091
00:35:27,766 --> 00:35:30,483
for training and then I realized I just hated that
1092
00:35:30,483 --> 00:35:32,900
so I went to welding school because I was like
1093
00:35:33,933 --> 00:35:36,850
I need I need some type of education to fall back on
1094
00:35:36,850 --> 00:35:38,133
like I dropped out of high school
1095
00:35:38,133 --> 00:35:40,900
and then I got kicked out of another uh
1096
00:35:41,166 --> 00:35:43,633
alternative school and then I ended up getting my GED
1097
00:35:43,883 --> 00:35:44,783
and I was like
1098
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,333
I've been putting all my eggs in this basket
1099
00:35:46,333 --> 00:35:51,666
I need to like take some time to like learn something
1100
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,566
like I need something
1101
00:35:53,566 --> 00:35:56,166
and welding was interesting enough to me
1102
00:35:56,166 --> 00:35:57,683
but also like it was like
1103
00:35:57,683 --> 00:35:59,683
a 6 month course to go through welding school
1104
00:35:59,683 --> 00:36:02,333
and I was like called my parents like hey
1105
00:36:02,333 --> 00:36:04,983
can I move back in for like 6 months
1106
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,933
cause I have to go to school
1107
00:36:05,933 --> 00:36:06,850
and I won't be able to work
1108
00:36:06,850 --> 00:36:07,400
and they're like yeah
1109
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,650
come on so I came back home went to welding school um
1110
00:36:10,650 --> 00:36:14,250
and even that like I knew I didn't want to be a welder
1111
00:36:14,250 --> 00:36:18,266
you know like you're sitting in a room all day putting
1112
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,933
gluing two pieces of metal together
1113
00:36:19,933 --> 00:36:21,533
like that's not fun
1114
00:36:21,533 --> 00:36:23,866
it was more of like a safety net backup plan
1115
00:36:24,116 --> 00:36:24,916
um
1116
00:36:25,050 --> 00:36:26,400
and I'm happy I did that
1117
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,533
because I worked as a welder for six months
1118
00:36:29,533 --> 00:36:32,266
and I just remember being
1119
00:36:32,666 --> 00:36:35,933
in that shop and I was like looking around at everybody
1120
00:36:35,933 --> 00:36:37,683
and I was just like I just don't belong here man
1121
00:36:37,683 --> 00:36:39,150
like these people are so happy
1122
00:36:39,333 --> 00:36:41,700
with just clocking in every morning
1123
00:36:42,166 --> 00:36:44,566
punching in gluing a bunch of metal together
1124
00:36:44,566 --> 00:36:46,400
punching out like they love this
1125
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,833
this is not me so I
1126
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,650
this is the only job I ever drug up on
1127
00:36:50,650 --> 00:36:54,583
I just was like I'm out keys in there
1128
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,950
you're never gonna see me again
1129
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:56,800
um
1130
00:36:56,933 --> 00:36:58,966
I actually end up did seeing them again in my next job
1131
00:36:58,966 --> 00:37:01,233
which was super awkward but um
1132
00:37:01,333 --> 00:37:02,566
I I I left there
1133
00:37:02,566 --> 00:37:06,250
I started bartending and I started selling roofs
1134
00:37:06,250 --> 00:37:08,350
door knocking just cause I was like
1135
00:37:08,483 --> 00:37:09,483
this works with my schedule
1136
00:37:09,483 --> 00:37:11,166
like I can bartend all night
1137
00:37:11,166 --> 00:37:12,650
wake up go to morning practice
1138
00:37:12,650 --> 00:37:14,000
by the time morning practice is over
1139
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,983
I can go door knock for a couple hours
1140
00:37:16,166 --> 00:37:17,850
go back to the bar after practice and like
1141
00:37:17,850 --> 00:37:19,333
it just worked for a long time
1142
00:37:19,333 --> 00:37:21,033
and then um
1143
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:21,733
from there I
1144
00:37:21,733 --> 00:37:25,033
I got into like outside sales and in welding sales
1145
00:37:25,650 --> 00:37:27,500
so I had that base of of welding
1146
00:37:27,533 --> 00:37:29,366
well I'm a couple odd jobs in between
1147
00:37:29,366 --> 00:37:32,150
like I worked in warehouses and this and that but um
1148
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,000
like I I always had my bills paid
1149
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,333
but it was like just paid like that's it
1150
00:37:39,333 --> 00:37:41,100
like bills were paid
1151
00:37:41,133 --> 00:37:44,050
my private lessons with my coach were covered like
1152
00:37:44,050 --> 00:37:46,800
you know I had money for that and that was it um
1153
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,983
and then I I got into outside sales um
1154
00:37:50,650 --> 00:37:52,250
from like having a background of welding
1155
00:37:52,250 --> 00:37:53,833
and then do also like door knocking
1156
00:37:53,966 --> 00:37:55,683
roof sales and I
1157
00:37:55,683 --> 00:37:57,933
I feel like I could do that job for a long time
1158
00:37:57,933 --> 00:37:58,650
like that I
1159
00:37:58,650 --> 00:38:00,133
that was probably the longest time I've
1160
00:38:00,133 --> 00:38:02,150
stuck doing something it was like two and a half years
1161
00:38:02,166 --> 00:38:03,683
um and it was fun
1162
00:38:03,683 --> 00:38:05,866
it was like aggressive enough for me to like
1163
00:38:06,283 --> 00:38:08,166
go into these businesses and
1164
00:38:08,166 --> 00:38:10,600
and try to swap business and hunt new business
1165
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,966
and you know I
1166
00:38:11,966 --> 00:38:13,116
I move from like more of like a like retaining business
1167
00:38:14,933 --> 00:38:16,566
I moved to like more hunter and that
1168
00:38:16,566 --> 00:38:19,766
that was like definitely a lot of fun for me um
1169
00:38:19,766 --> 00:38:22,600
but definitely not as fun as punch people in the face
1170
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,750
so haha um
1171
00:38:24,450 --> 00:38:26,200
I that was maybe a year ago
1172
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,233
where I walked away from that job and it was like
1173
00:38:28,333 --> 00:38:29,666
it's a good job you know
1174
00:38:30,133 --> 00:38:31,133
it was fine I could do it
1175
00:38:31,133 --> 00:38:32,050
it was like I said
1176
00:38:32,050 --> 00:38:34,566
it was competitive enough for me to stay there
1177
00:38:34,566 --> 00:38:36,850
but like I knew there was more out there for me
1178
00:38:36,850 --> 00:38:38,850
so I kind of walked away from that and just pursued
1179
00:38:38,850 --> 00:38:40,733
like fighting full time um
1180
00:38:40,733 --> 00:38:43,700
and that's where I've been at for the past year or so
1181
00:38:43,883 --> 00:38:45,933
yeah you ever think some of those jobs
1182
00:38:45,933 --> 00:38:48,283
if you can make it you can make it
1183
00:38:48,283 --> 00:38:49,200
make a living doing
1184
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,133
some of the jobs that you've probably already done
1185
00:38:51,133 --> 00:38:54,200
you could probably make a living doing anything yeah
1186
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,483
you know this is America
1187
00:38:55,483 --> 00:38:57,050
I mean there's a lot of opportunity
1188
00:38:57,050 --> 00:38:58,483
for people that are willing to show up
1189
00:38:58,483 --> 00:39:00,483
and think like an owner yeah
1190
00:39:00,483 --> 00:39:01,250
you know yeah
1191
00:39:01,250 --> 00:39:02,783
it was crazy I remember like
1192
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,183
just growing up in sports and practice and like
1193
00:39:07,366 --> 00:39:08,950
growing up getting
1194
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,000
even just showing up on time
1195
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,283
you're like so ahead of the curve right now
1196
00:39:13,283 --> 00:39:14,166
and it was insane like
1197
00:39:14,166 --> 00:39:15,066
I just remember
1198
00:39:15,500 --> 00:39:17,200
I would always show up to work 15 minutes early
1199
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,366
like that was the time like I got here 15 minutes
1200
00:39:19,366 --> 00:39:21,366
like everywhere you go is just 15 minutes early
1201
00:39:21,366 --> 00:39:24,000
and it's like so you're never late
1202
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,600
and just that basic principle was like
1203
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,933
I was better than half the people in
1204
00:39:28,933 --> 00:39:30,883
like the workforce and I was like wow
1205
00:39:30,883 --> 00:39:32,766
this is like low standards man
1206
00:39:32,766 --> 00:39:35,933
I can really shine if I just do the bare minimum
1207
00:39:35,933 --> 00:39:37,050
it was wild you know
1208
00:39:37,050 --> 00:39:40,983
well you don't realize that you're surrounding yourself
1209
00:39:41,083 --> 00:39:42,083
I mean and
1210
00:39:42,083 --> 00:39:43,166
and your whole life
1211
00:39:43,166 --> 00:39:44,866
you've been surrounding yourself with
1212
00:39:44,966 --> 00:39:47,683
extremely disciplined people yeah
1213
00:39:47,683 --> 00:39:49,800
you know you can't just
1214
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,000
you know be a
1215
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,300
a a complete casual uh
1216
00:39:53,333 --> 00:39:55,666
legitimate martial artist right
1217
00:39:56,050 --> 00:39:56,733
you know right
1218
00:39:56,733 --> 00:39:57,133
I mean you
1219
00:39:57,133 --> 00:40:00,666
you really think about it like that's a very unique
1220
00:40:01,966 --> 00:40:04,200
like panel of peers yeah
1221
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,333
you know if you're close
1222
00:40:05,333 --> 00:40:07,000
all your closest people are talking about
1223
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,650
Olympic runners and yeah
1224
00:40:08,650 --> 00:40:10,483
boxers and jiu jitsu guys
1225
00:40:10,483 --> 00:40:11,733
I mean these are
1226
00:40:11,733 --> 00:40:13,466
and these are all people that like
1227
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,966
they identify as their passions right
1228
00:40:17,966 --> 00:40:19,566
their chosen passions right
1229
00:40:19,566 --> 00:40:23,300
and they're they're at the professional level doing
1230
00:40:23,366 --> 00:40:27,933
I think it takes a special level of stubbornness and
1231
00:40:27,933 --> 00:40:32,566
and conviction to make your passion a profession yeah
1232
00:40:32,566 --> 00:40:33,250
you know and really
1233
00:40:33,250 --> 00:40:36,333
I think that's one thing one thing that I've noticed
1234
00:40:36,333 --> 00:40:38,766
a theme that's kind of come up in doing this
1235
00:40:38,766 --> 00:40:39,650
I've had you know
1236
00:40:39,650 --> 00:40:43,033
three music producers on and um
1237
00:40:43,083 --> 00:40:44,866
be a martial artist grapplers
1238
00:40:45,083 --> 00:40:48,250
there's just a stubbornness that comes to saying no
1239
00:40:48,250 --> 00:40:49,766
this is how my life is gonna look
1240
00:40:49,766 --> 00:40:50,650
I'm gonna do these things
1241
00:40:50,650 --> 00:40:51,850
I'm just gonna find a way to do it
1242
00:40:51,850 --> 00:40:53,233
it's a really good point like
1243
00:40:53,250 --> 00:40:55,350
I'm gonna find a way you know
1244
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,883
because it's like the money's out there for that
1245
00:40:58,883 --> 00:41:00,366
whatever you wanna do the money's out there
1246
00:41:00,366 --> 00:41:01,800
you just gotta find it you know
1247
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,533
you don't gotta make it
1248
00:41:02,533 --> 00:41:04,650
you just gotta find it because it's there
1249
00:41:04,650 --> 00:41:07,000
you know what I mean there is there is a way to do it
1250
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:07,800
um
1251
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,966
the way I thought it was
1252
00:41:10,966 --> 00:41:14,283
to do it was not the way for me
1253
00:41:14,283 --> 00:41:16,400
like I thought being getting
1254
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,166
like chasing a world title and getting a world title
1255
00:41:19,166 --> 00:41:22,133
like I thought that would bring all the money for me
1256
00:41:22,133 --> 00:41:23,900
and it was just it's not the
1257
00:41:24,050 --> 00:41:24,600
you know it's
1258
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:25,450
it's it's sales
1259
00:41:25,450 --> 00:41:25,766
like you
1260
00:41:25,766 --> 00:41:28,466
like we were talking about like being a fighter
1261
00:41:28,683 --> 00:41:30,650
you are the you're the product
1262
00:41:30,650 --> 00:41:32,066
but you're also the service
1263
00:41:32,166 --> 00:41:34,733
cause you're the product which is you have as a fighter
1264
00:41:34,733 --> 00:41:36,133
you have to be marketable right
1265
00:41:36,133 --> 00:41:39,083
but then also you have to be the service
1266
00:41:39,083 --> 00:41:41,266
like whenever people come to watch you fight
1267
00:41:41,933 --> 00:41:43,966
they have to have a good time right
1268
00:41:43,966 --> 00:41:44,483
so and
1269
00:41:44,483 --> 00:41:46,583
and that's what the promotion sees
1270
00:41:46,766 --> 00:41:48,533
when they sign you to their promotion
1271
00:41:48,533 --> 00:41:49,683
like okay
1272
00:41:49,683 --> 00:41:52,100
he is a him as a product is marketable
1273
00:41:52,450 --> 00:41:55,050
and him as a service is marketable
1274
00:41:55,050 --> 00:41:57,133
because of what he's brings when he fights
1275
00:41:57,133 --> 00:41:58,333
so I started realizing
1276
00:41:58,333 --> 00:42:01,666
the two things I need to focus on are my marketability
1277
00:42:02,283 --> 00:42:04,066
and my exciting fighting style
1278
00:42:04,483 --> 00:42:07,266
like that's where the money is made as an athlete
1279
00:42:07,450 --> 00:42:09,183
and that's it like
1280
00:42:09,483 --> 00:42:15,200
you could be 5 and 5 and have knocked five people out
1281
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,400
and been knocked out five times
1282
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,566
and you will probably have an incredible job
1283
00:42:18,566 --> 00:42:20,466
at any high level promotion
1284
00:42:20,533 --> 00:42:22,700
if you are bringing people in
1285
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:23,683
that's it like so
1286
00:42:23,683 --> 00:42:25,583
and I realized that and I was like okay
1287
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,083
that's where I needed to put my focus
1288
00:42:28,083 --> 00:42:29,933
and once I really shifted my focus there
1289
00:42:29,933 --> 00:42:32,533
I was like this is so much easier than I thought it was
1290
00:42:32,533 --> 00:42:34,366
yeah this is so much easier
1291
00:42:34,366 --> 00:42:35,783
you know it's crazy
1292
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,150
well I imagine uh
1293
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,900
it's hard to deny how much notoriety uh
1294
00:42:42,050 --> 00:42:44,200
Josh Holkett yeah
1295
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,500
has drummed up in no time at all in the UFC
1296
00:42:47,766 --> 00:42:47,966
yeah
1297
00:42:47,966 --> 00:42:49,916
and then that's the other thing is like you have to
1298
00:42:49,916 --> 00:42:51,683
like people can smell phony yeah
1299
00:42:51,683 --> 00:42:52,883
you know like you have to
1300
00:42:52,883 --> 00:42:54,450
if you care about that which I do
1301
00:42:54,450 --> 00:42:58,450
it's like what you're putting out there to the world
1302
00:42:58,450 --> 00:43:00,333
is what you're putting out there for your kids to see
1303
00:43:00,333 --> 00:43:02,633
one day what you're putting out there forever
1304
00:43:02,683 --> 00:43:03,483
like
1305
00:43:04,133 --> 00:43:05,483
you know there's a different responsibility
1306
00:43:05,483 --> 00:43:07,650
if you're a Christian for what you do
1307
00:43:07,650 --> 00:43:09,166
you know you're a representation of Christ
1308
00:43:09,166 --> 00:43:11,600
so it's like there's a lot of things that
1309
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:12,166
like
1310
00:43:12,166 --> 00:43:15,200
my flesh wants to do to promote fights that I have to
1311
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,000
like
1312
00:43:16,566 --> 00:43:19,166
knock back or get creative on how I can promote fights
1313
00:43:19,166 --> 00:43:20,200
and it's it's really
1314
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,450
it's one of the bigger challenges
1315
00:43:21,450 --> 00:43:23,066
that I've faced in my career
1316
00:43:23,166 --> 00:43:24,766
um not the fighting itself
1317
00:43:24,766 --> 00:43:29,283
it's how to stay true to who I am
1318
00:43:29,283 --> 00:43:30,333
when the lights are on
1319
00:43:30,333 --> 00:43:32,200
and when you wanna go do crazy stuff
1320
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,166
and you wanna call people out and do this and that
1321
00:43:34,166 --> 00:43:34,966
and it's like
1322
00:43:34,966 --> 00:43:38,750
doesn't matter that you're like promoting the fight
1323
00:43:38,883 --> 00:43:40,450
what you're doing is what you're doing
1324
00:43:40,450 --> 00:43:41,733
you know what I mean it doesn't matter
1325
00:43:41,733 --> 00:43:42,600
you know so it's
1326
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:43,650
it's interesting and that it's
1327
00:43:44,533 --> 00:43:46,133
it's a cutthroat game man
1328
00:43:46,133 --> 00:43:47,283
the entertainment it's you know
1329
00:43:47,283 --> 00:43:50,083
the entertainment business is like you're here
1330
00:43:50,083 --> 00:43:53,333
you're the guy for one day now you're not the next day
1331
00:43:53,333 --> 00:43:53,766
you know
1332
00:43:53,766 --> 00:43:59,966
so like finding who you are you know what I mean
1333
00:43:59,966 --> 00:44:02,133
and and and sticking true to who you are
1334
00:44:02,133 --> 00:44:03,583
and no matter what circumstances
1335
00:44:03,883 --> 00:44:05,133
it's been one of my biggest challenges
1336
00:44:05,133 --> 00:44:08,566
I remember talking to the guy
1337
00:44:08,566 --> 00:44:10,250
one of the guys from the company I fight for
1338
00:44:10,250 --> 00:44:11,933
that was like the marketing guy and
1339
00:44:11,933 --> 00:44:14,200
you know he worked with the WWE for a long time
1340
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,683
and he worked with other big organizations in fighting
1341
00:44:16,683 --> 00:44:18,600
like PFL and he was like
1342
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,050
you know
1343
00:44:19,050 --> 00:44:20,283
we're talking about the character and this and this
1344
00:44:20,283 --> 00:44:20,883
and I said hey man
1345
00:44:20,883 --> 00:44:24,000
like I'm just me I'm just gonna be me
1346
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,666
I come from a blue collar background um
1347
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,400
I think a lot of people resonate with that
1348
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,933
because everyone go
1349
00:44:30,933 --> 00:44:32,566
gets up and goes to work the next day
1350
00:44:32,566 --> 00:44:35,033
you know and I've lived that life for so long like
1351
00:44:35,050 --> 00:44:37,183
and he was he was super cool like um
1352
00:44:37,450 --> 00:44:38,133
you know he's like yeah
1353
00:44:38,133 --> 00:44:39,850
let's just be you people can smell phony
1354
00:44:39,850 --> 00:44:43,566
so let's just build you more
1355
00:44:43,566 --> 00:44:44,450
and I was like okay cool
1356
00:44:44,450 --> 00:44:45,550
you know but like
1357
00:44:45,966 --> 00:44:47,133
it's crazy man you
1358
00:44:47,133 --> 00:44:48,250
you talk to some of these guys
1359
00:44:48,250 --> 00:44:49,883
after seeing them on the mic
1360
00:44:49,883 --> 00:44:50,533
you're like dude
1361
00:44:50,533 --> 00:44:51,533
that's not you like
1362
00:44:51,533 --> 00:44:53,450
I bet you Josh Hogan is not like that in
1363
00:44:53,450 --> 00:44:54,650
in person sure
1364
00:44:54,650 --> 00:44:55,766
in real life you know what I mean
1365
00:44:55,766 --> 00:44:59,683
but he jumped from 18 hours professional
1366
00:44:59,683 --> 00:45:01,400
fighting the No. 4 ranked guy
1367
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,433
and then fighting a former title challenger
1368
00:45:04,733 --> 00:45:06,733
on the White House lawn in like
1369
00:45:06,733 --> 00:45:09,400
a year and he might be getting Alex Pereira soon
1370
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,366
that's a scary fight that's crazy
1371
00:45:11,366 --> 00:45:12,733
that's scary that's wild
1372
00:45:12,733 --> 00:45:14,183
that's crazy man
1373
00:45:14,733 --> 00:45:15,683
yeah it
1374
00:45:15,683 --> 00:45:18,050
it's funny cause I don't know
1375
00:45:18,050 --> 00:45:20,733
I don't have any experience in bare knuckle fighting
1376
00:45:20,733 --> 00:45:23,733
I've never I've never even really trained much striking
1377
00:45:23,733 --> 00:45:25,500
but I know that um
1378
00:45:25,966 --> 00:45:27,850
everything changes when you get hit in the face
1379
00:45:27,850 --> 00:45:29,366
yeah and yeah
1380
00:45:29,366 --> 00:45:30,300
it does yeah
1381
00:45:30,533 --> 00:45:35,550
I can't I can't imagine trying to think about your
1382
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,666
your brand your training
1383
00:45:37,683 --> 00:45:40,200
your coaching strategy your opponent
1384
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,466
all that stuff how do you
1385
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,333
how do you feel playful when you're doing all of this
1386
00:45:47,333 --> 00:45:48,300
yeah I
1387
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:49,800
I it's like I
1388
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,333
I tell a lot of the guys that I
1389
00:45:51,333 --> 00:45:52,333
I train with to like
1390
00:45:52,333 --> 00:45:54,500
that's early in their amateur career
1391
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:55,800
um I just say dude
1392
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,233
you just gotta play tag bro
1393
00:45:57,233 --> 00:45:59,166
you have to play tag with this guy's face
1394
00:45:59,166 --> 00:46:01,083
because if you try to think about hitting them in the
1395
00:46:01,083 --> 00:46:03,000
face you're putting more onto it
1396
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:03,733
you're like like
1397
00:46:03,733 --> 00:46:05,683
I remember like the mantras that you tell yourself
1398
00:46:05,683 --> 00:46:06,800
like I was like oh
1399
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,200
my wife's in the other room
1400
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,450
this guy's trying to get to her
1401
00:46:09,450 --> 00:46:11,650
and I'm not gonna let her and all this other stuff
1402
00:46:11,650 --> 00:46:12,766
and it's like it doesn't matter bro
1403
00:46:12,766 --> 00:46:15,266
because whatever you do in practice
1404
00:46:15,483 --> 00:46:16,600
is what you're gonna do in the fight
1405
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,283
so if you have that intention
1406
00:46:18,283 --> 00:46:20,683
like if you have that mindset in practice
1407
00:46:20,683 --> 00:46:22,450
where you're trying to hurt your teammates
1408
00:46:22,450 --> 00:46:24,250
which nobody wants to train with you
1409
00:46:24,250 --> 00:46:25,533
if that's the case right
1410
00:46:25,533 --> 00:46:27,833
right and you're angry and you hate them
1411
00:46:28,566 --> 00:46:30,166
then maybe bring that in the fight
1412
00:46:30,166 --> 00:46:31,900
but if you don't do that in practice
1413
00:46:31,933 --> 00:46:33,800
and you love the guys that you train with
1414
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,583
and you just were trying to beat them in sparring
1415
00:46:36,650 --> 00:46:37,883
then you need to bring that into it
1416
00:46:37,883 --> 00:46:39,366
so a lot of the time I'm like
1417
00:46:39,366 --> 00:46:41,450
overly nice to my opponents
1418
00:46:41,450 --> 00:46:43,600
because I'm trying to create
1419
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:44,166
I mean a
1420
00:46:44,166 --> 00:46:45,650
because it's it's the right thing to do
1421
00:46:45,650 --> 00:46:46,933
and I don't hate these people
1422
00:46:46,933 --> 00:46:49,133
they're making a living the same way I am
1423
00:46:49,133 --> 00:46:51,200
um taking the same risks but like
1424
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,883
I make an effort to go like
1425
00:46:52,883 --> 00:46:55,400
talk to them and be kind to them
1426
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,300
and talk to their opponents
1427
00:46:57,566 --> 00:46:58,800
or talk to my opponents coaches
1428
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,566
because it brings me back to like reality of like
1429
00:47:01,566 --> 00:47:02,733
I don't hate this person
1430
00:47:02,733 --> 00:47:04,166
like I don't dislike this person
1431
00:47:04,166 --> 00:47:05,850
I might not like like how they do things
1432
00:47:05,850 --> 00:47:07,583
but like I don't hate you as a person
1433
00:47:07,650 --> 00:47:09,683
um I just need to hit you in the face
1434
00:47:09,683 --> 00:47:10,800
more than you hit me in the face
1435
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,283
and like I literally say just playing tag
1436
00:47:13,283 --> 00:47:15,083
just playing tag like my coaches will say that'cause it
1437
00:47:15,083 --> 00:47:16,700
it kind of brings me back to
1438
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:18,600
this is just a Monday night at sparring
1439
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:19,766
you don't want to hurt or kill
1440
00:47:19,766 --> 00:47:21,666
or any of this stuff to your teammates
1441
00:47:21,766 --> 00:47:25,583
so if you start mixing in these unnatural feelings
1442
00:47:25,650 --> 00:47:28,083
and emotions that you don't usually perform with
1443
00:47:28,083 --> 00:47:29,450
it's not going to go well right
1444
00:47:29,450 --> 00:47:31,750
so so I keep it playful
1445
00:47:31,750 --> 00:47:33,800
I've just done it the other way where I was like
1446
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,333
way too overly aggressive and it was just not
1447
00:47:36,333 --> 00:47:39,600
not good not good outcomes for me dude
1448
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,700
so I wrestled one year in high school
1449
00:47:41,733 --> 00:47:43,650
my first wrestling match I
1450
00:47:43,650 --> 00:47:46,466
I had been on the wrestling team three days
1451
00:47:46,566 --> 00:47:48,883
I Learned one move I Learned how to sprawl
1452
00:47:48,883 --> 00:47:50,083
and I Learned the headlock takedown
1453
00:47:50,083 --> 00:47:51,166
nice nice
1454
00:47:51,166 --> 00:47:53,266
all I had that's brutal for
1455
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:54,733
that's brutal dude
1456
00:47:54,733 --> 00:47:55,650
well I got a
1457
00:47:55,650 --> 00:47:57,766
I got a brother that's 16 months younger than me
1458
00:47:57,766 --> 00:47:58,933
so it helped that we you know
1459
00:47:58,933 --> 00:48:00,733
we grew up kind of nice beating up on each other
1460
00:48:00,733 --> 00:48:01,983
but uh
1461
00:48:02,050 --> 00:48:03,750
and my my opponent
1462
00:48:03,966 --> 00:48:06,766
my opponent comes out and this kid's like
1463
00:48:06,766 --> 00:48:08,850
6 foot 2 and 145 pounds
1464
00:48:08,850 --> 00:48:11,733
I was wrestling one 60 and I cut like 12 pounds
1465
00:48:11,733 --> 00:48:16,000
Jeez bro so big mash like big mix up size wise
1466
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,300
I was a lot bigger than him even though he was taller
1467
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,750
but he was just a lanky string bean
1468
00:48:20,983 --> 00:48:24,566
and I was ready to run through a brick wall
1469
00:48:24,566 --> 00:48:26,450
I was so hyped with adrenaline
1470
00:48:26,450 --> 00:48:27,850
cause I had no idea what I was doing
1471
00:48:27,850 --> 00:48:29,966
I was just like I'm gonna beat this guy with aggression
1472
00:48:29,966 --> 00:48:32,450
cause that's my only freaking move
1473
00:48:32,450 --> 00:48:34,300
and I go out there I'm like
1474
00:48:34,566 --> 00:48:34,683
ah
1475
00:48:34,683 --> 00:48:39,200
I'm gonna tear this guy apart and I go and I locked up
1476
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,166
I locked up headlock
1477
00:48:40,166 --> 00:48:43,483
take down slammed him squeeze with all of my mind
1478
00:48:43,483 --> 00:48:45,150
I think I busted his nose
1479
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,283
squeezing and pinned him in 16 seconds
1480
00:48:47,283 --> 00:48:49,266
and I was like I like wrestling yeah
1481
00:48:49,683 --> 00:48:51,433
wrestling's fun yeah
1482
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,883
wrestling's so much fun my next match was not like that
1483
00:48:54,883 --> 00:48:57,283
oh shit bro I went against a senior
1484
00:48:57,283 --> 00:48:58,466
yeah and he uh
1485
00:48:58,566 --> 00:49:00,800
he he clowned me and uh
1486
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,683
pinned me in like two rounds and uh yeah
1487
00:49:04,683 --> 00:49:06,933
but but what a debut yeah
1488
00:49:06,933 --> 00:49:09,200
I mean it was so awesome and those things bro
1489
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:10,566
you never forget those bro
1490
00:49:10,566 --> 00:49:13,566
like you that that like at that age too yeah
1491
00:49:13,566 --> 00:49:17,233
that like helps form who you are how you see yourself
1492
00:49:17,366 --> 00:49:18,050
yeah you know what I mean
1493
00:49:18,050 --> 00:49:18,400
like oh
1494
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,083
I was I was in 11th grade man
1495
00:49:20,083 --> 00:49:21,700
I was yeah fifteen
1496
00:49:22,433 --> 00:49:24,100
yeah 15 years old
1497
00:49:24,683 --> 00:49:26,200
knowing that I could take down a bigger guy
1498
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,200
although he was skinny yeah
1499
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,383
super skinny he's taller
1500
00:49:29,450 --> 00:49:32,000
he's taller for the story purposes
1501
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,533
he was a lot bigger that's right
1502
00:49:33,533 --> 00:49:34,650
yeah yeah
1503
00:49:34,650 --> 00:49:36,400
he had to he had to wrestle up and wait
1504
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,400
cause there was nobody in his weight class yeah
1505
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,400
so yeah dude
1506
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,533
but it's just so comical yeah
1507
00:49:41,533 --> 00:49:42,483
you know yeah
1508
00:49:42,483 --> 00:49:43,950
you have to keep it like
1509
00:49:44,366 --> 00:49:45,733
you have to keep it playful man
1510
00:49:45,733 --> 00:49:47,383
I think because uh
1511
00:49:48,850 --> 00:49:49,483
it's just
1512
00:49:49,483 --> 00:49:52,066
there's not enough time in the day to be angry
1513
00:49:52,483 --> 00:49:53,283
you know what I mean
1514
00:49:53,283 --> 00:49:55,950
like at like this guy's just trying to make a living
1515
00:49:55,966 --> 00:49:58,233
yeah the same way you're trying to make a living
1516
00:49:58,333 --> 00:49:59,083
that's it bro
1517
00:49:59,083 --> 00:50:01,000
like it's I always say like
1518
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,450
I'm not fighting this person
1519
00:50:03,450 --> 00:50:04,733
I'm just fighting their style
1520
00:50:04,733 --> 00:50:07,450
like my style is fighting their style and that's it
1521
00:50:07,450 --> 00:50:08,800
how can my style beat this guy's style
1522
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,633
like I'm not really fighting this guy's as a person
1523
00:50:11,733 --> 00:50:13,300
you know so it's
1524
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,200
I think also just being strong in my faith
1525
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,483
and having that moral compass
1526
00:50:18,483 --> 00:50:21,483
has actually really helped improve my performances
1527
00:50:21,483 --> 00:50:22,983
because I don't get into the
1528
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:24,600
to the the
1529
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,333
you know all the back and forth stuff
1530
00:50:26,333 --> 00:50:27,483
I just kind of take myself out of it
1531
00:50:27,483 --> 00:50:29,050
I'm just like yeah bro whatever
1532
00:50:29,050 --> 00:50:30,366
do what you gotta do you know
1533
00:50:30,366 --> 00:50:32,800
like we're gonna fight in six months or six weeks
1534
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,650
whatever like we'll get to it
1535
00:50:34,650 --> 00:50:36,083
you know but the
1536
00:50:36,083 --> 00:50:38,150
the company is always pushing me to
1537
00:50:38,483 --> 00:50:39,566
you know smack the guy
1538
00:50:39,566 --> 00:50:40,800
in the face or do this not yeah
1539
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,166
that specifically but yeah
1540
00:50:43,166 --> 00:50:44,200
you know do all this stuff
1541
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,066
but um
1542
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:46,850
it's it's a fun game though man
1543
00:50:46,850 --> 00:50:48,566
it's a it's a fun game for sure
1544
00:50:48,566 --> 00:50:49,533
do you think that your faith
1545
00:50:49,533 --> 00:50:51,200
has made you more confident
1546
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,766
in becoming a I mean
1547
00:50:52,766 --> 00:50:53,983
a professional fighter
1548
00:50:54,050 --> 00:50:55,250
I think so I
1549
00:50:55,250 --> 00:50:57,700
you know I think being
1550
00:50:58,566 --> 00:50:59,200
you know for
1551
00:50:59,200 --> 00:50:59,800
for many years
1552
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,900
I had my identity wrapped up in being a fighter
1553
00:51:02,933 --> 00:51:06,550
so I think I think my faith just keeps it like this
1554
00:51:06,566 --> 00:51:07,333
there's not you know
1555
00:51:07,333 --> 00:51:08,733
people say that fighting is like
1556
00:51:08,733 --> 00:51:10,583
the highest of highs and the lowest of lows
1557
00:51:10,733 --> 00:51:14,050
um and I think if you're pretty dialed with your faith
1558
00:51:14,050 --> 00:51:16,366
I don't think that's super true
1559
00:51:16,366 --> 00:51:16,566
like
1560
00:51:16,566 --> 00:51:19,400
you can get super upset and you can get super happy
1561
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,933
but you know if
1562
00:51:21,933 --> 00:51:23,166
if none of this matters man
1563
00:51:23,166 --> 00:51:23,800
like that's something
1564
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,800
I was talking to my buddy in the car on the way here
1565
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:26,600
actually about that
1566
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:27,866
like how
1567
00:51:28,050 --> 00:51:30,633
like my identity is not tied to this
1568
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,666
sport in an unhealthy way anymore
1569
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:38,650
so like the the ability to not care as much has
1570
00:51:38,650 --> 00:51:41,200
has 100% helped the trajectory of my career
1571
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,483
and helped me in my performances
1572
00:51:42,483 --> 00:51:44,983
because I'm not training out of fear
1573
00:51:45,283 --> 00:51:47,400
you know I'm not training out of like
1574
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,450
I have to win this fight because if I don't
1575
00:51:49,450 --> 00:51:51,083
who am I as a person it's
1576
00:51:51,083 --> 00:51:52,166
it's really yeah
1577
00:51:52,166 --> 00:51:53,166
I to answer your question
1578
00:51:53,166 --> 00:51:55,850
I definitely think it's helped my performances for sure
1579
00:51:55,850 --> 00:51:56,600
yeah
1580
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:57,983
and imagine your identity too
1581
00:51:57,983 --> 00:52:00,533
I mean that's something that I
1582
00:52:01,466 --> 00:52:03,633
you were talking about how you were in this job
1583
00:52:03,633 --> 00:52:05,300
looking around all these people like dude
1584
00:52:05,300 --> 00:52:06,500
I'm not like these people
1585
00:52:06,500 --> 00:52:08,300
yeah I had that same epiphany
1586
00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:10,166
when I was in an accounting department
1587
00:52:10,266 --> 00:52:11,383
working for the home builder I
1588
00:52:11,383 --> 00:52:13,583
I was a touring musician for four years
1589
00:52:13,583 --> 00:52:15,433
and then I I got this accounting gig
1590
00:52:15,433 --> 00:52:17,633
a headhunter recruited me and I would just
1591
00:52:17,633 --> 00:52:19,066
the band was falling apart
1592
00:52:19,066 --> 00:52:19,866
I needed a gig
1593
00:52:19,866 --> 00:52:22,350
and it was a lot more money than being a musician
1594
00:52:22,350 --> 00:52:23,266
yeah so uh
1595
00:52:23,266 --> 00:52:24,033
I said alright
1596
00:52:24,033 --> 00:52:25,666
whatever if they fire me in six months
1597
00:52:25,666 --> 00:52:26,666
that's good money you know
1598
00:52:26,666 --> 00:52:27,633
yeah so straight up
1599
00:52:27,633 --> 00:52:29,700
I was like but I just
1600
00:52:29,700 --> 00:52:33,133
we just released a record with the old band and um
1601
00:52:33,183 --> 00:52:34,350
I'm all fired up about it
1602
00:52:34,350 --> 00:52:37,100
and I'm like working in this accounting department
1603
00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:38,066
like saying yeah
1604
00:52:38,066 --> 00:52:38,866
by the way you know
1605
00:52:38,866 --> 00:52:40,583
check out this record we just did like
1606
00:52:40,583 --> 00:52:41,983
you know and I realized like
1607
00:52:41,983 --> 00:52:43,900
none of these people have any kind of
1608
00:52:43,900 --> 00:52:45,833
big thing that they're excited about
1609
00:52:45,833 --> 00:52:48,800
yeah and they're all just afraid that
1610
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:51,666
their life might change if they get let go of their job
1611
00:52:51,666 --> 00:52:53,050
and like there was this fear
1612
00:52:53,183 --> 00:52:57,233
dialogue that just didn't resonate with me yeah
1613
00:52:57,233 --> 00:52:58,550
you know and I don't know
1614
00:52:58,550 --> 00:52:59,350
I've been
1615
00:52:59,833 --> 00:53:04,066
I've been dumped and fired and laid off so many times
1616
00:53:04,066 --> 00:53:04,550
that I'm like
1617
00:53:04,550 --> 00:53:07,033
I just don't fear that anymore yeah
1618
00:53:07,033 --> 00:53:07,883
you know like
1619
00:53:08,550 --> 00:53:09,950
yeah I've worked since I was
1620
00:53:09,950 --> 00:53:11,283
I mean 6 years old
1621
00:53:11,350 --> 00:53:13,900
I had a I had an income coming in yeah
1622
00:53:13,900 --> 00:53:15,150
I was like I can do anything
1623
00:53:15,150 --> 00:53:15,950
I'm like ah
1624
00:53:16,466 --> 00:53:17,983
now I'm a I just
1625
00:53:17,983 --> 00:53:19,766
I'm not afraid of that um
1626
00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:22,033
you know the rug being pulled out from under me
1627
00:53:22,033 --> 00:53:25,300
but I just realized like I am not like these people
1628
00:53:25,300 --> 00:53:26,266
yeah you know
1629
00:53:26,266 --> 00:53:27,100
and um
1630
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:30,283
it's freeing that's a freeing feeling yeah
1631
00:53:30,433 --> 00:53:33,000
like I'm not tethered to this job
1632
00:53:33,066 --> 00:53:34,466
yeah or this like
1633
00:53:34,466 --> 00:53:36,500
version of me that works in this job
1634
00:53:36,500 --> 00:53:38,100
like I don't care
1635
00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:39,433
you know like and
1636
00:53:39,433 --> 00:53:42,966
and it's hard for it's hard for me to like
1637
00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:45,300
you know when I think of somebody and I
1638
00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:47,583
and like I see their faces in my head
1639
00:53:47,583 --> 00:53:50,066
you know these people I'm talking about uh
1640
00:53:50,066 --> 00:53:51,500
and in my mind
1641
00:53:51,500 --> 00:53:53,633
they're the same people that they were back then
1642
00:53:53,633 --> 00:53:55,383
but I just got a little glimpse of who they were
1643
00:53:55,383 --> 00:53:56,583
in that moment right
1644
00:53:56,583 --> 00:53:57,750
but we're all on this journey
1645
00:53:57,750 --> 00:53:59,283
and we're constantly changing
1646
00:53:59,500 --> 00:54:00,900
you know so I feel like it's
1647
00:54:00,900 --> 00:54:03,050
it's easy for me to judge
1648
00:54:03,150 --> 00:54:07,283
and assume people haven't grown yeah um
1649
00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:11,183
or want people to grow faster than they
1650
00:54:11,183 --> 00:54:12,466
they want to grow right
1651
00:54:12,466 --> 00:54:15,800
you know and me feel some kind of rub
1652
00:54:15,900 --> 00:54:17,266
you know like wanting to
1653
00:54:17,266 --> 00:54:19,766
you know I'm sure you've had a buddy that you're like
1654
00:54:19,866 --> 00:54:21,866
constantly trying to invite him to stuff or like
1655
00:54:21,866 --> 00:54:22,950
you know step up in some
1656
00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:23,633
area of their life
1657
00:54:23,633 --> 00:54:25,833
and that's just not the season of life that they're in
1658
00:54:25,833 --> 00:54:27,266
yeah like they're not ready
1659
00:54:27,266 --> 00:54:28,766
and you know I think there's
1660
00:54:29,266 --> 00:54:30,950
I so I was talking to one of my best friends about this
1661
00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:32,966
I was like bro I don't have
1662
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:36,666
so I've been out of the gym for 7 weeks now
1663
00:54:36,666 --> 00:54:39,066
and that's like I'll still go to the gym
1664
00:54:39,066 --> 00:54:40,750
but I can't do the classes
1665
00:54:40,750 --> 00:54:41,950
cause I can't hold for partner drills
1666
00:54:41,950 --> 00:54:42,700
I can't hit pads
1667
00:54:42,700 --> 00:54:45,666
I just got cleared to hit the bag eight days ago
1668
00:54:45,666 --> 00:54:47,583
so I'm like hitting the bag light
1669
00:54:47,583 --> 00:54:49,633
but I can't spar like I and I kind of you know
1670
00:54:49,633 --> 00:54:50,700
I live about an hour from the gym
1671
00:54:50,700 --> 00:54:51,800
so I kind of took myself
1672
00:54:52,183 --> 00:54:53,666
out of that environment a little bit
1673
00:54:53,666 --> 00:54:56,666
so I could just do more trail runs
1674
00:54:56,666 --> 00:54:59,266
do more like I'm doing more strength conditioning
1675
00:54:59,266 --> 00:55:00,983
or I'm like working out with friends
1676
00:55:00,983 --> 00:55:02,233
that I never get to work out with
1677
00:55:02,233 --> 00:55:04,850
because I'm always in the same four walls of the gym
1678
00:55:04,866 --> 00:55:06,750
for four hours a night like I'm like yeah
1679
00:55:06,750 --> 00:55:07,950
let me go do your workout with you
1680
00:55:07,950 --> 00:55:09,983
like let's go do meathead workouts and bench a bunch
1681
00:55:09,983 --> 00:55:11,383
and do whatever you know
1682
00:55:11,383 --> 00:55:13,583
like and so I've been kind of doing that more
1683
00:55:13,583 --> 00:55:17,383
and it's been so fun and I was talk you know
1684
00:55:17,383 --> 00:55:18,866
my my agent's calling me like hey man
1685
00:55:18,866 --> 00:55:19,833
you ready to get back to it
1686
00:55:19,833 --> 00:55:20,900
like how you feeling you know
1687
00:55:20,900 --> 00:55:21,950
and I was like yeah
1688
00:55:21,950 --> 00:55:23,466
just whenever my hands healed
1689
00:55:23,466 --> 00:55:24,433
like for the first time
1690
00:55:24,433 --> 00:55:26,633
cause I'm usually like banging his line like yo
1691
00:55:26,633 --> 00:55:27,466
what did they say about this opponent
1692
00:55:27,466 --> 00:55:28,350
what did they say when's the next day
1693
00:55:28,350 --> 00:55:29,783
you know just trying to get after it
1694
00:55:29,783 --> 00:55:30,900
and I I was telling my buddy
1695
00:55:30,900 --> 00:55:31,883
I'm like
1696
00:55:32,783 --> 00:55:36,500
I'm okay with just being here doing this right now
1697
00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:36,900
you know I
1698
00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:38,283
I don't have that unhealthy
1699
00:55:38,466 --> 00:55:40,100
relationship to the sport anymore
1700
00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:40,433
and I
1701
00:55:40,433 --> 00:55:44,966
I was almost envious of some of my friends that just
1702
00:55:45,100 --> 00:55:48,500
they're okay to just wake up and do the same thing
1703
00:55:48,500 --> 00:55:50,866
and they're not super ambitious and they're not um
1704
00:55:50,866 --> 00:55:52,866
like we experience very different things right
1705
00:55:52,866 --> 00:55:54,250
like they've never experienced
1706
00:55:54,866 --> 00:55:56,583
uh knocking somebody out in a packed
1707
00:55:56,583 --> 00:55:58,750
out crowd of 11,000 people
1708
00:55:58,750 --> 00:56:00,833
or they've never they've never like
1709
00:56:00,833 --> 00:56:03,550
they gotta clock in for the rest of their life
1710
00:56:03,550 --> 00:56:05,866
you know and like they have a boss and like
1711
00:56:05,866 --> 00:56:07,433
they've never experienced some of the things
1712
00:56:07,433 --> 00:56:09,033
I've experienced so it's easy for me to say that
1713
00:56:09,033 --> 00:56:12,183
but like they might I
1714
00:56:12,183 --> 00:56:12,866
I don't know I
1715
00:56:12,866 --> 00:56:14,300
I look at some of these people and I go man
1716
00:56:14,300 --> 00:56:18,566
I'm like I almost crave that um
1717
00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:20,400
just like yeah man
1718
00:56:20,466 --> 00:56:21,266
like
1719
00:56:21,466 --> 00:56:24,066
just gonna work and get off and maybe jump on the game
1720
00:56:24,066 --> 00:56:24,350
or like
1721
00:56:24,350 --> 00:56:26,100
I'm gonna go play ultimate Frisbee with my buddy
1722
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:28,100
or like I'm gonna take my girl out to this thing
1723
00:56:28,100 --> 00:56:29,183
and like there's just like
1724
00:56:29,183 --> 00:56:31,866
they're just okay with that thing
1725
00:56:31,866 --> 00:56:32,266
you know
1726
00:56:32,266 --> 00:56:34,866
and and I'm sure if I lived that life I would hate it
1727
00:56:34,866 --> 00:56:36,633
you know but sometimes I'm like man
1728
00:56:36,633 --> 00:56:38,633
I wonder what it would be like to not have that thing
1729
00:56:38,633 --> 00:56:39,866
that you're constantly chasing
1730
00:56:39,866 --> 00:56:41,183
cause it's oops sorry
1731
00:56:41,183 --> 00:56:41,500
it's
1732
00:56:41,500 --> 00:56:44,783
it's a it can be tiresome like it's mentally draining
1733
00:56:44,783 --> 00:56:45,966
I was talking about
1734
00:56:46,383 --> 00:56:48,833
with my buddy on the way here about like burnout
1735
00:56:48,833 --> 00:56:49,766
and like
1736
00:56:50,500 --> 00:56:52,083
sometimes you just wanna like
1737
00:56:52,866 --> 00:56:54,366
sit on the couch and do nothing
1738
00:56:54,466 --> 00:56:55,150
and like that's
1739
00:56:55,150 --> 00:56:56,850
goes against everything that
1740
00:56:56,866 --> 00:56:58,383
we've ever done for the last 10 years
1741
00:56:58,383 --> 00:57:00,350
but like I was telling them in this past couple weeks
1742
00:57:00,350 --> 00:57:02,183
bro like the season I've been in is just like
1743
00:57:02,233 --> 00:57:04,033
I've been just wanted to sit on the couch
1744
00:57:04,033 --> 00:57:05,500
like do my bare minimum workouts
1745
00:57:05,500 --> 00:57:07,183
like keep the body where it needs to be
1746
00:57:07,183 --> 00:57:08,850
do my rehabs this and the third
1747
00:57:09,233 --> 00:57:11,066
and I don't want to put in extra hours in the gym
1748
00:57:11,066 --> 00:57:12,700
I don't want to do the extra runs
1749
00:57:12,700 --> 00:57:13,866
I don't want to do anything extra
1750
00:57:13,866 --> 00:57:15,183
I just want to sit on the couch and watch a
1751
00:57:15,183 --> 00:57:17,550
binge watch a movie or like movie series or whatever
1752
00:57:17,550 --> 00:57:19,566
like it's crazy where
1753
00:57:20,466 --> 00:57:24,266
like performing at this level where it takes your mind
1754
00:57:24,266 --> 00:57:27,350
because sometimes it's like
1755
00:57:27,350 --> 00:57:28,666
who am I thinking this way
1756
00:57:28,666 --> 00:57:29,183
you know what I mean
1757
00:57:29,183 --> 00:57:31,100
like how long can I actually put up with this
1758
00:57:31,100 --> 00:57:33,083
this type of uh
1759
00:57:33,900 --> 00:57:35,033
intensity I guess
1760
00:57:35,033 --> 00:57:35,783
you know like chase
1761
00:57:35,783 --> 00:57:36,183
like what you said
1762
00:57:36,183 --> 00:57:38,550
like chasing that goal or being excited about something
1763
00:57:38,550 --> 00:57:39,066
like for me excitement about something turns into like
1764
00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:44,550
here's a million checklist of what I have to do to be
1765
00:57:44,550 --> 00:57:46,350
successful in that thing you know
1766
00:57:46,350 --> 00:57:47,183
and that kind of yeah
1767
00:57:47,183 --> 00:57:48,650
kind of can drain you sometimes
1768
00:57:49,150 --> 00:57:53,133
yeah I think it's so vital to have some sort of
1769
00:57:54,033 --> 00:57:58,983
avenue for play that is not performance like oriented
1770
00:57:58,983 --> 00:57:59,900
yeah for me
1771
00:57:59,900 --> 00:58:02,483
like I I go skateboarding because there's no
1772
00:58:02,783 --> 00:58:04,383
first of all I go when there's nobody there
1773
00:58:04,383 --> 00:58:06,550
I go at sunrise and um
1774
00:58:06,550 --> 00:58:08,150
and I got all my pads on cause like
1775
00:58:08,150 --> 00:58:09,700
I'm not a great skateboarder
1776
00:58:09,700 --> 00:58:11,900
like my coolest trick is not getting hurt
1777
00:58:11,900 --> 00:58:14,300
it's a good trick and I can't even do that trick
1778
00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:17,150
so like but I can roll around the bowl
1779
00:58:17,150 --> 00:58:18,266
I can roll out of the bowl
1780
00:58:18,266 --> 00:58:19,783
I can get a little bit of air
1781
00:58:19,783 --> 00:58:22,483
you know I can go off the little kicker ramps and like
1782
00:58:22,633 --> 00:58:25,666
you know there's no element to where I'm like no
1783
00:58:25,666 --> 00:58:27,050
I need to get you know
1784
00:58:27,100 --> 00:58:29,166
this many reps or this you know
1785
00:58:29,266 --> 00:58:30,700
I have to land these tricks
1786
00:58:30,700 --> 00:58:33,750
no it's just about having fun and checking out
1787
00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:34,433
and you know
1788
00:58:34,433 --> 00:58:35,666
even in jiu jitsu you know
1789
00:58:35,666 --> 00:58:36,300
I'm like alright
1790
00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:37,183
I wanna be able to
1791
00:58:37,183 --> 00:58:39,683
I wanna hit this submission today somehow right
1792
00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:40,700
like
1793
00:58:41,300 --> 00:58:42,783
you know just we
1794
00:58:42,783 --> 00:58:44,600
we we gamify everything
1795
00:58:44,666 --> 00:58:47,800
and then we start to slowly and silently
1796
00:58:48,550 --> 00:58:52,466
align our identity with this performance right
1797
00:58:52,466 --> 00:58:53,900
you know and it's like no
1798
00:58:53,900 --> 00:58:56,650
you don't need to be evaluated yeah
1799
00:58:56,983 --> 00:58:58,750
yeah it can just be play yeah
1800
00:58:58,750 --> 00:59:00,083
you know and honestly
1801
00:59:00,300 --> 00:59:01,666
you know I'm not gonna lie
1802
00:59:01,666 --> 00:59:05,183
I mean my wife and uh
1803
00:59:05,183 --> 00:59:08,066
all of the struggles that we've had in
1804
00:59:08,066 --> 00:59:09,783
with our going you know
1805
00:59:09,783 --> 00:59:11,783
raising these babies and and postpartum
1806
00:59:11,783 --> 00:59:14,583
like depression and hormone swings and all this stuff
1807
00:59:14,583 --> 00:59:17,566
has been a great catalyst for me to
1808
00:59:18,066 --> 00:59:19,750
lean into this play thing
1809
00:59:19,750 --> 00:59:21,033
yeah and like alright
1810
00:59:21,033 --> 00:59:23,466
I gotta stay grounded and for me
1811
00:59:23,466 --> 00:59:25,200
the secret weapon is play
1812
00:59:25,383 --> 00:59:26,266
you know so like
1813
00:59:26,266 --> 00:59:27,766
when I whenever I'm
1814
00:59:27,833 --> 00:59:31,100
this is cool because I get to bring in whoever I want
1815
00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:31,583
right right
1816
00:59:31,583 --> 00:59:33,183
and as long as they're willing to come in
1817
00:59:33,183 --> 00:59:35,383
which I've been really delighted at how many people say
1818
00:59:35,383 --> 00:59:36,100
yes yeah
1819
00:59:36,100 --> 00:59:38,500
I think nobody's awesome almost nobody is said no
1820
00:59:38,500 --> 00:59:39,466
and I'm like oh cool
1821
00:59:39,466 --> 00:59:41,600
this person's coming in but um
1822
00:59:41,633 --> 00:59:43,833
but I get to learn from them and I get to like
1823
00:59:43,833 --> 00:59:45,300
you know like feed
1824
00:59:45,300 --> 00:59:48,533
it doesn't take me much motivation to feed off
1825
00:59:48,583 --> 00:59:51,033
of somebody else like just a little bit goes a long way
1826
00:59:51,033 --> 00:59:52,333
cause I'm I'm not
1827
00:59:52,433 --> 00:59:53,950
I'm internally motivated right
1828
00:59:53,950 --> 00:59:55,300
but um
1829
00:59:55,300 --> 00:59:59,050
this aspect of play for me has been um
1830
00:59:59,750 --> 01:00:02,383
such a secret weapon and being able to like
1831
01:00:02,383 --> 01:00:04,666
blow off steam in a healthy way yeah
1832
01:00:04,666 --> 01:00:05,183
you know
1833
01:00:05,183 --> 01:00:08,600
I feel like I'm still moving the needle in my soul
1834
01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:09,783
you know yeah
1835
01:00:09,783 --> 01:00:10,583
and um
1836
01:00:11,233 --> 01:00:13,350
I don't know that's I
1837
01:00:13,350 --> 01:00:14,900
I relate a lot to you know
1838
01:00:14,900 --> 01:00:16,250
the musicians uh
1839
01:00:16,583 --> 01:00:18,800
and the producers because they
1840
01:00:19,383 --> 01:00:21,100
like I said there's this stubbornness
1841
01:00:21,100 --> 01:00:22,033
right that comes about like
1842
01:00:22,033 --> 01:00:22,866
no this is
1843
01:00:22,866 --> 01:00:25,900
this is who I am I'm gonna build my life around that
1844
01:00:25,900 --> 01:00:27,100
yeah and uh
1845
01:00:27,100 --> 01:00:28,266
there is so much play
1846
01:00:28,266 --> 01:00:30,266
but also I've noticed music producers and stuff
1847
01:00:30,266 --> 01:00:31,850
I'm asking people like hey
1848
01:00:31,866 --> 01:00:33,900
what do you do outside of music right
1849
01:00:33,900 --> 01:00:38,100
because you can't just be that like yeah
1850
01:00:38,100 --> 01:00:40,100
you still have to be able to unplug and check
1851
01:00:40,100 --> 01:00:41,700
you know and people like to cook
1852
01:00:41,700 --> 01:00:42,900
they like to travel like
1853
01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:45,150
there's all these other kind of human interests that
1854
01:00:45,150 --> 01:00:47,650
you know we can connect over but um
1855
01:00:47,950 --> 01:00:49,750
I always like to see I
1856
01:00:49,750 --> 01:00:52,233
I'm always just curious how people play yeah
1857
01:00:52,233 --> 01:00:54,066
outside of the cause
1858
01:00:54,066 --> 01:00:55,833
cause they're typically high performers
1859
01:00:55,833 --> 01:00:56,950
yeah you know
1860
01:00:56,950 --> 01:00:58,600
I'm not generally
1861
01:00:59,233 --> 01:01:02,100
uh so far everybody I've had in
1862
01:01:02,100 --> 01:01:02,900
you know
1863
01:01:03,433 --> 01:01:05,850
they're all pretty high achieving
1864
01:01:06,100 --> 01:01:08,000
independent minded uh
1865
01:01:08,383 --> 01:01:10,633
people that I find fascinating
1866
01:01:10,633 --> 01:01:12,666
and I don't know it's just kind of cool
1867
01:01:12,666 --> 01:01:14,750
to see all the different flavors come together
1868
01:01:14,750 --> 01:01:15,216
yeah
1869
01:01:15,216 --> 01:01:17,183
I think I'm learning that right now
1870
01:01:17,183 --> 01:01:18,466
what you're talking about with play
1871
01:01:18,466 --> 01:01:20,100
I think I'm learning that right now
1872
01:01:20,100 --> 01:01:22,633
and I don't think I would have um
1873
01:01:22,633 --> 01:01:25,983
I probably wouldn't have Learned that if I didn't lose
1874
01:01:26,066 --> 01:01:28,233
so I lost my last fight split decision
1875
01:01:28,233 --> 01:01:33,150
and I was like almost relieved because I was just like
1876
01:01:33,150 --> 01:01:34,966
I was ranked No. 2 in the world
1877
01:01:35,300 --> 01:01:37,350
if I won that fight I probably would have been in line
1878
01:01:37,350 --> 01:01:38,866
like one more for a title shot
1879
01:01:38,866 --> 01:01:42,633
become a world champion and that was like one of my big
1880
01:01:42,633 --> 01:01:43,983
what still is one of my big goals
1881
01:01:43,983 --> 01:01:47,150
but I got knocked down to No. 4 in the rankings
1882
01:01:47,150 --> 01:01:48,966
and I was just like
1883
01:01:49,900 --> 01:01:50,466
okay like
1884
01:01:50,466 --> 01:01:53,650
I'm not immediately under the microscope for
1885
01:01:53,866 --> 01:01:55,183
a title shot you know
1886
01:01:55,183 --> 01:01:56,466
like every fight is important
1887
01:01:56,466 --> 01:01:59,150
but like the next couple were like super important
1888
01:01:59,150 --> 01:02:03,083
now I've like probably added another fight onto my um
1889
01:02:03,183 --> 01:02:06,083
my road to the title and I just was like
1890
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,950
I've been experimenting with like that play aspect
1891
01:02:08,950 --> 01:02:10,850
because it's like in fighting
1892
01:02:11,350 --> 01:02:12,233
there's a lot of things
1893
01:02:12,233 --> 01:02:14,000
like if you kind of get bored or
1894
01:02:14,300 --> 01:02:16,550
or it starts getting mundane or whatever
1895
01:02:16,550 --> 01:02:18,266
that's where the real growth starts happening
1896
01:02:18,266 --> 01:02:20,466
but you can't live in that for too long
1897
01:02:20,466 --> 01:02:21,966
so like if you're doing MMA
1898
01:02:22,750 --> 01:02:25,350
you could focus on so many aspects of the game
1899
01:02:25,350 --> 01:02:27,233
like I'm just focusing on jiu jitsu
1900
01:02:27,233 --> 01:02:28,783
and even that that's a multi layer
1901
01:02:28,783 --> 01:02:30,266
there's a million things you could focus on
1902
01:02:30,266 --> 01:02:31,333
in jiu jitsu right
1903
01:02:31,350 --> 01:02:33,150
wrestling it could be offensive wrestling
1904
01:02:33,150 --> 01:02:35,333
defensive wrestling chain wrestling and striking
1905
01:02:35,466 --> 01:02:38,066
uh defending striking and wrestling like it's so much
1906
01:02:38,066 --> 01:02:41,533
and then you could so you can switch between striking
1907
01:02:41,983 --> 01:02:44,583
uh Muay Thai boxing kickboxing
1908
01:02:44,583 --> 01:02:47,450
jiu jitsu wrestling MMA as a whole wall work
1909
01:02:47,550 --> 01:02:49,750
defensive subs sweeps you
1910
01:02:49,750 --> 01:02:51,500
can kind of change it up all the time
1911
01:02:51,500 --> 01:02:52,600
and now with boxing
1912
01:02:53,150 --> 01:02:55,150
like my wings are a little bit clipped
1913
01:02:55,150 --> 01:02:58,500
to where I can just focus on different footworks
1914
01:02:58,500 --> 01:02:59,466
or different defenses
1915
01:02:59,466 --> 01:03:02,266
or how I throw different punches or whatever
1916
01:03:02,266 --> 01:03:03,566
so um
1917
01:03:03,866 --> 01:03:07,066
I've been like craving that like play
1918
01:03:07,066 --> 01:03:07,783
like what like
1919
01:03:07,783 --> 01:03:10,333
the thing that I've been most excited for in the past
1920
01:03:11,666 --> 01:03:12,983
eight weeks has been going to play
1921
01:03:12,983 --> 01:03:14,433
ultimate Frisbee with all my friends
1922
01:03:14,433 --> 01:03:15,750
cause I haven't played in like 10 years
1923
01:03:15,750 --> 01:03:18,783
and it's been so fun cause I don't care like it's yes
1924
01:03:18,783 --> 01:03:19,750
performance based obviously
1925
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:22,583
but like it's not like I'm a paychecks on the line
1926
01:03:22,583 --> 01:03:23,383
if I make a touchdown
1927
01:03:23,383 --> 01:03:25,550
you're not gonna be bummed if you miss the throw
1928
01:03:25,550 --> 01:03:27,033
and nobody's gonna be let down
1929
01:03:27,033 --> 01:03:27,700
no right
1930
01:03:27,700 --> 01:03:28,833
no and it's been so fun
1931
01:03:28,833 --> 01:03:30,500
I've been more excited for that
1932
01:03:30,500 --> 01:03:32,300
yeah and this is like all new for me
1933
01:03:32,300 --> 01:03:34,033
like this is new in the last two months
1934
01:03:34,033 --> 01:03:35,733
so I've been more excited for that
1935
01:03:36,183 --> 01:03:37,866
then even going back to practice
1936
01:03:37,866 --> 01:03:38,900
yeah'cause it's there's no
1937
01:03:38,900 --> 01:03:40,500
there's no crazy pressure and stress
1938
01:03:40,500 --> 01:03:42,833
so like the play aspect is something that I like
1939
01:03:42,833 --> 01:03:44,983
have to like really look at my
1940
01:03:44,983 --> 01:03:45,700
my life and go
1941
01:03:45,700 --> 01:03:48,383
how much how much am I really putting into this
1942
01:03:48,383 --> 01:03:49,033
you know yeah
1943
01:03:49,033 --> 01:03:50,300
because I don't think there's a lot of time
1944
01:03:50,300 --> 01:03:51,966
if you're working a full time job
1945
01:03:52,066 --> 01:03:53,766
and you're training full time
1946
01:03:53,866 --> 01:03:55,033
I don't think there's a lot of time
1947
01:03:55,033 --> 01:03:56,066
for play you know
1948
01:03:56,066 --> 01:03:58,733
you're clocking 40 hours a week at the job
1949
01:03:59,750 --> 01:04:01,983
and then you're getting your training in also
1950
01:04:01,983 --> 01:04:03,233
you know my days would look like
1951
01:04:03,233 --> 01:04:05,900
7:30 in the morning to 9:30 at night
1952
01:04:05,900 --> 01:04:07,800
every night and I was like
1953
01:04:08,150 --> 01:04:09,300
not a lot of time for play
1954
01:04:09,300 --> 01:04:10,183
you know so now
1955
01:04:10,183 --> 01:04:12,233
now that that's not my reality anymore
1956
01:04:12,233 --> 01:04:14,300
that I need to like find something
1957
01:04:14,300 --> 01:04:15,383
you know yeah
1958
01:04:15,383 --> 01:04:16,750
well I mean
1959
01:04:16,750 --> 01:04:17,550
obviously
1960
01:04:17,550 --> 01:04:21,266
anybody that's super discipline or like a high
1961
01:04:21,266 --> 01:04:24,733
high achiever they think like there's an inter
1962
01:04:24,750 --> 01:04:27,900
internal voice that's probably pretty harsh says
1963
01:04:27,900 --> 01:04:29,750
you gotta be doing more you gotta be hustling
1964
01:04:29,750 --> 01:04:31,500
you can't take a day off you kidding me
1965
01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:33,633
like your opponent is not taking a day off
1966
01:04:33,633 --> 01:04:34,433
yeah you know
1967
01:04:34,466 --> 01:04:35,333
and um
1968
01:04:35,983 --> 01:04:39,183
I don't know I have been experimenting now
1969
01:04:39,183 --> 01:04:40,366
you know hey if
1970
01:04:40,466 --> 01:04:41,266
if uh
1971
01:04:41,950 --> 01:04:43,383
Michael Jordan you know
1972
01:04:43,383 --> 01:04:46,150
and George ST Pierre they can have sports psychologist
1973
01:04:46,150 --> 01:04:47,583
like maybe there's something to like
1974
01:04:47,583 --> 01:04:49,033
getting your head right in the game
1975
01:04:49,033 --> 01:04:50,100
and figuring out
1976
01:04:50,100 --> 01:04:52,100
what the most important thing really is
1977
01:04:52,100 --> 01:04:54,750
yeah Jesus has been a big part of that in my life
1978
01:04:54,750 --> 01:04:55,550
no doubt
1979
01:04:56,183 --> 01:04:57,666
uh I plug this book all the time
1980
01:04:57,666 --> 01:05:00,266
The Ruthless Elimination of hurry hmm
1981
01:05:00,266 --> 01:05:01,866
um by Comer
1982
01:05:01,866 --> 01:05:05,083
you gotta check that out but like this concept of uh
1983
01:05:05,533 --> 01:05:09,233
of why am I rushing through life yeah
1984
01:05:09,233 --> 01:05:11,783
you know on all these different facets and just
1985
01:05:11,783 --> 01:05:13,583
you know why can't I just take a break
1986
01:05:13,583 --> 01:05:14,600
oh I can
1987
01:05:14,633 --> 01:05:17,500
I can just I can just have a complete day off
1988
01:05:17,500 --> 01:05:21,100
have a Sabbath where I'm not focused on performance
1989
01:05:21,100 --> 01:05:22,666
I'm not focused on moving the needle
1990
01:05:22,666 --> 01:05:24,466
I'm not focused on making money yeah
1991
01:05:24,466 --> 01:05:27,966
um I can just be and it's a good thing
1992
01:05:28,150 --> 01:05:29,700
you know um
1993
01:05:29,700 --> 01:05:31,450
goes against everything that
1994
01:05:32,866 --> 01:05:34,033
for years and years and years
1995
01:05:34,033 --> 01:05:34,950
if you're a high performer
1996
01:05:34,950 --> 01:05:36,283
it goes against everything
1997
01:05:36,550 --> 01:05:38,633
it makes it almost makes your skin crawl yeah
1998
01:05:38,633 --> 01:05:39,466
it almost like oh my god
1999
01:05:39,466 --> 01:05:40,550
I don't want to lose my edge
2000
01:05:40,550 --> 01:05:41,950
like I've yeah I've built it
2001
01:05:41,950 --> 01:05:46,283
I've built this empire of whatever this way
2002
01:05:46,383 --> 01:05:47,150
I don't want to switch it
2003
01:05:47,150 --> 01:05:48,300
you know what I mean so it's yeah
2004
01:05:48,300 --> 01:05:50,350
it's interesting I have to check that book out
2005
01:05:50,350 --> 01:05:51,883
I definitely have to check that book out
2006
01:05:51,950 --> 01:05:53,383
it's it's just a like
2007
01:05:53,583 --> 01:05:56,833
if you get too interwoven in this idea of oh go
2008
01:05:56,833 --> 01:05:57,183
go go
2009
01:05:57,183 --> 01:05:57,550
go go
2010
01:05:57,550 --> 01:06:01,233
I feel like I'm gonna look up and just be 80 years old
2011
01:06:01,233 --> 01:06:01,783
going going
2012
01:06:01,783 --> 01:06:02,183
going
2013
01:06:02,183 --> 01:06:04,783
like I had a conversation with my buddy and I was like
2014
01:06:04,783 --> 01:06:05,650
man I think
2015
01:06:06,183 --> 01:06:08,183
you know a lot of humans
2016
01:06:08,183 --> 01:06:11,800
I think that they are just distracting themselves from
2017
01:06:11,983 --> 01:06:13,350
the fact that they're gonna die one day
2018
01:06:13,350 --> 01:06:15,133
like this is a big hamster wheel
2019
01:06:15,183 --> 01:06:16,866
and we are just distracting ourselves
2020
01:06:16,866 --> 01:06:19,066
from the fact that we're gonna die
2021
01:06:19,066 --> 01:06:22,850
and it's funny because a lot of other cultures
2022
01:06:23,383 --> 01:06:26,983
it's the opposite like not really in this culture
2023
01:06:26,983 --> 01:06:28,183
but like in a lot of other cultures
2024
01:06:28,183 --> 01:06:30,750
like the very first depiction of like
2025
01:06:30,750 --> 01:06:33,783
a human skull comes from these group of monks
2026
01:06:33,783 --> 01:06:35,150
and now this is what we were talking about today
2027
01:06:35,150 --> 01:06:37,583
have you heard this this analogy actually
2028
01:06:37,583 --> 01:06:40,650
Kumar talks about having a skull on his desk skull bro
2029
01:06:40,750 --> 01:06:43,133
that's crazy bro it's so cool and it's like
2030
01:06:43,233 --> 01:06:44,033
you know what I don't know
2031
01:06:44,033 --> 01:06:45,383
I think it said like I might butcher it
2032
01:06:45,383 --> 01:06:46,550
but it's like where you are
2033
01:06:46,550 --> 01:06:48,100
I once was and where I am
2034
01:06:48,100 --> 01:06:50,266
you soon will be something something along those lines
2035
01:06:50,266 --> 01:06:51,750
right and it's like yeah
2036
01:06:51,750 --> 01:06:54,066
it's that's probably what I am referencing
2037
01:06:54,066 --> 01:06:56,200
that's crazy man and it's um
2038
01:06:57,433 --> 01:06:59,250
yeah what was that one book that I was reading
2039
01:06:59,383 --> 01:07:02,350
um I might have been from the same guy honestly
2040
01:07:02,350 --> 01:07:03,350
if that's the same story
2041
01:07:03,350 --> 01:07:05,683
but it was it didn't it was not that book but anyways
2042
01:07:05,866 --> 01:07:09,500
like all of that that shifting of perspective of like
2043
01:07:09,500 --> 01:07:11,050
yeah you are gonna die one day
2044
01:07:11,433 --> 01:07:12,433
kind of embracing that
2045
01:07:12,433 --> 01:07:14,150
instead of just getting on the hamster wheel of like
2046
01:07:14,150 --> 01:07:15,466
distractions yeah
2047
01:07:15,466 --> 01:07:17,933
it's easy to distract yourself
2048
01:07:17,950 --> 01:07:19,600
you know it's like
2049
01:07:20,066 --> 01:07:22,983
and sometimes I think you know that you're doing it
2050
01:07:22,983 --> 01:07:25,183
you know and you know it's not good for you
2051
01:07:25,183 --> 01:07:28,383
it's like being a drug addict like you know
2052
01:07:28,383 --> 01:07:30,200
this is not good for me but it's
2053
01:07:30,233 --> 01:07:33,183
the detox process is a lot harder to like
2054
01:07:33,183 --> 01:07:34,633
pull yourself out of that reality
2055
01:07:34,633 --> 01:07:36,766
and really take an inventory of your life
2056
01:07:36,950 --> 01:07:38,650
so I think a lot of people are just like
2057
01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:39,633
screw it bro
2058
01:07:39,633 --> 01:07:42,383
I'm just gonna keep on this mindset yeah
2059
01:07:42,383 --> 01:07:44,033
snooze yeah
2060
01:07:44,033 --> 01:07:44,733
straight up
2061
01:07:44,733 --> 01:07:47,750
it reminded me too of like the recent interviews with
2062
01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:50,350
uh Max Holloway talking about how much he was sparring
2063
01:07:50,350 --> 01:07:52,183
you know he's not sparring at all right
2064
01:07:52,183 --> 01:07:53,433
he's like I'm surfing more
2065
01:07:53,433 --> 01:07:56,233
he's like I've been doing this for whatever 20 years
2066
01:07:56,233 --> 01:07:57,833
I know what I need to be doing
2067
01:07:57,833 --> 01:07:59,900
and he had you know
2068
01:07:59,900 --> 01:08:01,800
great per great performance
2069
01:08:01,866 --> 01:08:03,883
uh this was after Olivera right
2070
01:08:03,900 --> 01:08:05,533
who do you fight after Olivera
2071
01:08:06,350 --> 01:08:08,050
um geichie
2072
01:08:08,100 --> 01:08:09,283
where he knocked him out oh
2073
01:08:09,350 --> 01:08:10,900
in the last second of that after yeah
2074
01:08:10,900 --> 01:08:12,933
that was I think so yeah
2075
01:08:13,250 --> 01:08:13,983
yeah so that
2076
01:08:13,983 --> 01:08:15,866
that that inspires me too
2077
01:08:15,866 --> 01:08:18,550
cause just we don't know how much there is to gain
2078
01:08:18,550 --> 01:08:20,383
by getting our head right yeah
2079
01:08:20,383 --> 01:08:21,400
you know um
2080
01:08:21,433 --> 01:08:23,650
versus just piling on more abuse
2081
01:08:23,833 --> 01:08:24,633
you know yeah
2082
01:08:24,700 --> 01:08:26,183
it's so funny that you're saying that man
2083
01:08:26,183 --> 01:08:26,633
that was like
2084
01:08:26,633 --> 01:08:30,950
the biggest breakthrough in my career was like
2085
01:08:30,950 --> 01:08:31,700
realize like I
2086
01:08:31,700 --> 01:08:33,750
I was the first person in the gym
2087
01:08:33,750 --> 01:08:35,450
I was the last person to leave
2088
01:08:35,466 --> 01:08:38,466
my schedule was freak like you would think I'm a freak
2089
01:08:38,466 --> 01:08:39,433
bro like my calendar
2090
01:08:39,433 --> 01:08:41,550
like it was for MMA right
2091
01:08:41,550 --> 01:08:42,150
it had it was
2092
01:08:42,150 --> 01:08:45,866
every single second of my day was just so scheduled
2093
01:08:45,866 --> 01:08:47,450
like little things like
2094
01:08:48,233 --> 01:08:49,350
like like
2095
01:08:49,350 --> 01:08:51,700
I had a couple times where I was in an MMA fight
2096
01:08:51,700 --> 01:08:53,500
and I had a choke and I had my arms gas out
2097
01:08:53,500 --> 01:08:54,900
so like I put it in my calendar
2098
01:08:54,900 --> 01:08:56,433
like I would do these squeezes on
2099
01:08:56,433 --> 01:08:58,233
these foam roller squeezes and do this
2100
01:08:58,233 --> 01:08:59,950
and with my legs and like everything
2101
01:08:59,950 --> 01:09:00,833
and I was working an office job
2102
01:09:00,833 --> 01:09:02,966
so I literally did the bare minimum on the office job
2103
01:09:03,150 --> 01:09:05,833
filled it with everything like visualization
2104
01:09:05,833 --> 01:09:08,183
whimhoff breathing like everything
2105
01:09:08,183 --> 01:09:11,083
and when I stopped doing all of that
2106
01:09:11,700 --> 01:09:14,950
I my performance skyrocketed and it was insane
2107
01:09:14,950 --> 01:09:17,033
and I was just like in my head
2108
01:09:17,033 --> 01:09:18,383
I have to do more more more more
2109
01:09:18,383 --> 01:09:18,950
more more
2110
01:09:18,950 --> 01:09:21,266
and there was just like it was awesome
2111
01:09:21,266 --> 01:09:22,866
because I built something that was really
2112
01:09:22,866 --> 01:09:26,500
really really good and firm and and solid
2113
01:09:26,500 --> 01:09:28,650
and it was like my my game was solid
2114
01:09:28,883 --> 01:09:32,066
and here's a here's me and here's the game that I built
2115
01:09:32,066 --> 01:09:33,166
and there's no bridge
2116
01:09:33,183 --> 01:09:34,983
like I was like I couldn't access that
2117
01:09:34,983 --> 01:09:36,500
so I was just like dude I need to access
2118
01:09:36,500 --> 01:09:38,983
I need to put some time into like the bridge
2119
01:09:38,983 --> 01:09:41,250
cause my performances were nothing like practice
2120
01:09:41,383 --> 01:09:42,266
and I had a I had a like separation
2121
01:09:44,950 --> 01:09:47,550
like I didn't I wasn't in control of myself
2122
01:09:47,550 --> 01:09:48,750
when I was in competition
2123
01:09:48,750 --> 01:09:50,783
so like I was like I need to focus on this
2124
01:09:50,783 --> 01:09:53,183
and that's pretty much what I what I did
2125
01:09:53,183 --> 01:09:54,433
like you talked about a mind coach
2126
01:09:54,433 --> 01:09:57,366
like I listen to every single
2127
01:09:58,150 --> 01:10:00,000
podcast that I could about
2128
01:10:00,300 --> 01:10:01,900
mental preparation and performance
2129
01:10:01,900 --> 01:10:03,866
and read every book that I could about
2130
01:10:03,866 --> 01:10:05,766
like the greats um
2131
01:10:06,100 --> 01:10:06,933
like
2132
01:10:07,466 --> 01:10:09,166
what's that one book called um
2133
01:10:10,583 --> 01:10:13,400
it talks about being a cleaner versus um
2134
01:10:14,500 --> 01:10:18,300
it's by like LeBron James basketball coach Tim Grover
2135
01:10:18,300 --> 01:10:20,183
um it was just a
2136
01:10:20,183 --> 01:10:22,233
it was it was incredible book anyways
2137
01:10:22,233 --> 01:10:24,150
but like I read all these books about like
2138
01:10:24,150 --> 01:10:25,950
like knowing oneself or
2139
01:10:25,950 --> 01:10:28,500
or our mindset of high performers
2140
01:10:28,500 --> 01:10:30,350
and like through that process of like
2141
01:10:30,350 --> 01:10:33,333
really learning about that kind of thing
2142
01:10:34,383 --> 01:10:35,750
my performance skyrocketed
2143
01:10:35,750 --> 01:10:36,733
and it was obviously
2144
01:10:36,866 --> 01:10:39,233
accumulation of learning about that stuff
2145
01:10:39,233 --> 01:10:40,983
and then also building this
2146
01:10:40,983 --> 01:10:42,050
but like
2147
01:10:43,033 --> 01:10:45,566
there's so much to be said about
2148
01:10:46,033 --> 01:10:47,233
just doing it the right way
2149
01:10:47,233 --> 01:10:49,100
and not just doing more of it yeah
2150
01:10:49,100 --> 01:10:53,933
you know like if you just slap on three plates of
2151
01:10:54,700 --> 01:10:56,433
of some weight you can probably get it up
2152
01:10:56,433 --> 01:10:57,150
but like
2153
01:10:57,150 --> 01:10:59,333
you can probably get way more up if you just did the
2154
01:10:59,500 --> 01:11:00,866
spent more time on just like the
2155
01:11:00,866 --> 01:11:01,866
the form and the technique
2156
01:11:01,866 --> 01:11:04,800
and I feel like I had to do that with my career of like
2157
01:11:04,983 --> 01:11:06,633
figure out what's going on in your head
2158
01:11:06,633 --> 01:11:08,200
you know that's way harder than
2159
01:11:08,433 --> 01:11:10,850
it's easier to spend an extra 45 minutes in the gym
2160
01:11:10,866 --> 01:11:11,750
yeah you know
2161
01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:13,583
like it's it's insane
2162
01:11:13,583 --> 01:11:15,550
that's constant little adjustments man
2163
01:11:15,550 --> 01:11:16,150
yeah
2164
01:11:16,150 --> 01:11:17,100
I read a book uh
2165
01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:18,233
called thank you for being late
2166
01:11:18,233 --> 01:11:19,983
it was talking about how all of the world's
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01:11:19,983 --> 01:11:21,333
technological innovations
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01:11:22,383 --> 01:11:25,133
typically came as a result of some sort of interruption
2169
01:11:25,283 --> 01:11:28,583
and somebody had unexpected white space to ponder
2170
01:11:28,583 --> 01:11:32,400
something interesting and as you know
2171
01:11:32,700 --> 01:11:35,883
I used to identify as a full time songwriter
2172
01:11:35,983 --> 01:11:39,383
and I would never shame myself by taking like
2173
01:11:39,383 --> 01:11:41,350
the weekend off to go look for inspiration
2174
01:11:41,350 --> 01:11:42,500
and go write hmm
2175
01:11:42,500 --> 01:11:45,900
you know but I had time for white space
2176
01:11:45,900 --> 01:11:47,500
where there's just nothing on my calendar
2177
01:11:47,500 --> 01:11:49,050
I could just think and be
2178
01:11:49,066 --> 01:11:51,000
and that's where your greatest
2179
01:11:51,233 --> 01:11:53,100
revelations and epiphanies come from
2180
01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:55,750
that's where the wisdom is kind of solidified
2181
01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:57,383
the internal wisdom it's interesting
2182
01:11:57,383 --> 01:11:58,300
and you know
2183
01:11:58,300 --> 01:11:59,583
I I challenge you man
2184
01:11:59,583 --> 01:12:01,233
if if there's anything I could challenge John
2185
01:12:01,233 --> 01:12:01,950
be like hey
2186
01:12:01,950 --> 01:12:04,483
try to do less yeah
2187
01:12:04,950 --> 01:12:06,750
yeah try or just make space
2188
01:12:06,750 --> 01:12:08,950
cause your most special
2189
01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:13,700
valuable piece of your whole entity is your critical
2190
01:12:13,700 --> 01:12:16,433
problem solving creative abilities right
2191
01:12:16,433 --> 01:12:19,333
right and when every 15 second
2192
01:12:19,383 --> 01:12:23,083
15 minute interval is crammed with stuff
2193
01:12:23,183 --> 01:12:26,433
there's no space to just kind of be yeah
2194
01:12:26,433 --> 01:12:28,400
and ponder and uh
2195
01:12:28,433 --> 01:12:29,500
I don't know I'm always trying
2196
01:12:29,500 --> 01:12:32,350
you know we're all trying to life hack or whatever yeah
2197
01:12:32,350 --> 01:12:34,066
max out everything that we can
2198
01:12:34,066 --> 01:12:35,050
you know yeah dude
2199
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:39,683
um a part of that is like do less and like enjoy it
2200
01:12:39,833 --> 01:12:42,500
it almost stresses me out like to have a cat
2201
01:12:42,500 --> 01:12:43,183
like if I I
2202
01:12:43,183 --> 01:12:44,950
so I have like obviously my calendar on my wall
2203
01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:46,700
and then I have on my phone
2204
01:12:46,700 --> 01:12:47,900
and I have it in my notes app
2205
01:12:47,900 --> 01:12:51,283
and I just have Monday through Sunday and every day
2206
01:12:51,550 --> 01:12:52,866
if I don't have something on there
2207
01:12:52,866 --> 01:12:55,066
I'm almost like subconsciously like
2208
01:12:55,066 --> 01:12:56,583
alright I need to fill this with something like
2209
01:12:56,583 --> 01:12:57,500
what is something that I've been like
2210
01:12:57,500 --> 01:12:58,700
putting off that I could put
2211
01:12:58,700 --> 01:12:59,500
I'll put that on that day
2212
01:12:59,500 --> 01:12:59,950
OK cool
2213
01:12:59,950 --> 01:13:00,150
and like
2214
01:13:00,150 --> 01:13:01,383
and the next thing you know I look at my calendar
2215
01:13:01,383 --> 01:13:02,633
I'm like oh
2216
01:13:02,633 --> 01:13:04,033
my week's full like yeah
2217
01:13:04,033 --> 01:13:04,550
you know what I mean
2218
01:13:04,550 --> 01:13:07,600
like it's it's slapped full of stuff so it's like
2219
01:13:08,900 --> 01:13:10,583
there's there's there's gotta be something to that
2220
01:13:10,583 --> 01:13:10,833
you know well
2221
01:13:10,833 --> 01:13:12,700
I know some CEOs that will
2222
01:13:12,700 --> 01:13:14,983
they'll just book an appointment on their calendar
2223
01:13:14,983 --> 01:13:16,500
for white space every day
2224
01:13:16,500 --> 01:13:18,433
wow so just carve it out and then no
2225
01:13:18,433 --> 01:13:20,033
it won't get booked it won't get filled right
2226
01:13:20,033 --> 01:13:22,700
yeah that's a good that's a really good point yeah
2227
01:13:22,700 --> 01:13:24,233
that's crazy did uh
2228
01:13:24,233 --> 01:13:26,200
so nothing yet booked no
2229
01:13:26,383 --> 01:13:26,983
no you heal up
2230
01:13:26,983 --> 01:13:27,900
you gotta heal up first yeah
2231
01:13:27,900 --> 01:13:30,600
yeah gotta heal up um I got a call
2232
01:13:31,983 --> 01:13:34,350
like a week ago about some
2233
01:13:34,350 --> 01:13:36,583
a really big opportunity and he was like
2234
01:13:36,583 --> 01:13:38,100
my agent was like how's your hand doing
2235
01:13:38,100 --> 01:13:39,900
pretty good I got some news for you and I was like
2236
01:13:39,900 --> 01:13:41,100
oh shoot let's go
2237
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:41,950
what what's the news
2238
01:13:41,950 --> 01:13:43,933
and it's in January um
2239
01:13:44,266 --> 01:13:45,466
nothing signed yet
2240
01:13:45,466 --> 01:13:48,066
we're kind of like starting the process of like
2241
01:13:48,066 --> 01:13:49,150
contract negotiation
2242
01:13:49,150 --> 01:13:50,433
finding the opponents and all this stuff
2243
01:13:50,433 --> 01:13:51,933
but I think it's gonna be really cool
2244
01:13:51,983 --> 01:13:54,966
um definitely be a big fight um
2245
01:13:56,866 --> 01:13:59,066
when's this gonna air um
2246
01:13:59,066 --> 01:14:00,433
probably not for another eight
2247
01:14:00,433 --> 01:14:01,300
10 weeks oh
2248
01:14:01,300 --> 01:14:02,300
eight or 10 weeks okay cool
2249
01:14:02,300 --> 01:14:04,050
yeah so I think um
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01:14:04,150 --> 01:14:05,900
I keep it here also actually
2251
01:14:05,900 --> 01:14:07,300
you know what I'll just tell you off the camera
2252
01:14:07,300 --> 01:14:08,150
cause I don't wanna get in trouble
2253
01:14:08,150 --> 01:14:10,533
but yeah it's a super cool opportunity um
2254
01:14:10,583 --> 01:14:12,433
and it'll be in January so nice
2255
01:14:12,433 --> 01:14:13,283
I'm like
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01:14:13,950 --> 01:14:15,950
I'm looking at getting some uh
2257
01:14:15,950 --> 01:14:18,566
this thing called a bone stimulator that like
2258
01:14:18,583 --> 01:14:20,883
it helps a fracture heal a little bit faster
2259
01:14:20,983 --> 01:14:22,433
um luckily I'm
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01:14:22,433 --> 01:14:23,500
I'm just like I was saying
2261
01:14:23,500 --> 01:14:26,083
I'm partnered with some of the best people um
2262
01:14:26,300 --> 01:14:28,666
like I'm getting PRP shots and
2263
01:14:28,666 --> 01:14:29,583
and and helping
2264
01:14:29,583 --> 01:14:30,700
helping the hand grow
2265
01:14:30,700 --> 01:14:32,666
and in the joints in the hand strengthen up
2266
01:14:32,666 --> 01:14:32,833
like
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01:14:32,833 --> 01:14:35,266
Barbara Orthopedics is always hooking me up with like
2268
01:14:35,266 --> 01:14:36,750
the top level care um
2269
01:14:36,750 --> 01:14:38,583
so I'm gonna be back in the ring
2270
01:14:38,583 --> 01:14:40,033
a lot quicker than I thought
2271
01:14:40,033 --> 01:14:41,066
um nice
2272
01:14:41,066 --> 01:14:42,300
but January should be the
2273
01:14:42,300 --> 01:14:43,783
the next one well
2274
01:14:43,783 --> 01:14:45,683
I can't wait to see what comes dude
2275
01:14:46,300 --> 01:14:48,266
Nathan Rivera thanks for doing this dude
2276
01:14:48,266 --> 01:14:49,466
thanks for having me thanks for coming
2277
01:14:49,466 --> 01:14:50,383
it's been a blast bro
2278
01:14:50,383 --> 01:14:52,266
I'm super proud of you thank you brother
2279
01:14:52,266 --> 01:14:55,183
I can't wait to see what happens and follow you
2280
01:14:55,183 --> 01:14:56,950
follow you along your crazy journey
2281
01:14:56,950 --> 01:14:58,266
yeah it's crazy to me
2282
01:14:58,266 --> 01:15:01,333
you're freaking bare knuckle boxer um
2283
01:15:01,433 --> 01:15:03,866
but I'm fascinated I'm inspired dude
2284
01:15:03,866 --> 01:15:04,833
thank you so much man
2285
01:15:04,833 --> 01:15:05,633
absolutely thank you bro
2286
01:15:05,633 --> 01:15:06,350
God bless you brother
2287
01:15:06,350 --> 01:15:06,950
absolutely bro
2288
01:15:06,950 --> 01:15:07,500
thank you dog
2289
01:15:07,500 --> 01:15:08,333
thanks man
2290
01:15:08,500 --> 01:15:11,766
thanks for checking out the think in cursive podcast
2291
01:15:11,983 --> 01:15:13,033
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01:15:13,033 --> 01:15:15,150
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01:15:15,150 --> 01:15:16,583
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01:15:16,583 --> 01:15:19,100
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2295
01:15:19,100 --> 01:15:21,366
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01:15:21,433 --> 01:15:23,133
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so I lost my last fight a split decision
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and I was like almost relieved because I was just like
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I was ranked No. 2 in the world after a fight
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my hands will be banged up and I'm like
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should have stayed in sales man
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haha
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it's crazy but you know
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it's a it's a fun life man
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it's always exciting my own head of like
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I think overtraining is like
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it's kind of like insecurity
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well in
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according to your chart you're a beast yeah
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you're a beast and I was like
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look at my shirt I was like
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I got an eight pack I can run a 5:30 mile
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like you wanna tell me that
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she's like well
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this is what the chart says in that shop
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and I was like looking around at everybody
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and I was just like I just don't belong here man
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like these people are so happy
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welcome to the think in cursive podcast
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I'm Brandon Leonard
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and I'm so excited to share with you
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my circle of interesting people and conversation
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please like
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subscribe and share your comments along the way
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it helps our little channel more than you know alright
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here we go
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Nathan Rivera thanks for coming on thinking cursive man
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it's so good to see you it's been a while
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absolutely absolutely
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thank you for having me bro
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this setup is sweet um
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me and my buddy have been trying to
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we've been playing with this idea of
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starting a podcast and just having people on
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and talking to them about all kinds of stuff
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so when I saw this setup I was like
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okay we gotta do it bro
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this is awesome bro let's do it
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is he another uh is he another martial artist
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he uh
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he is actually he was actually my uh
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he was my welding instructor
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um five or six years ago
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um he's one of my best friends
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he he's the guy who I was telling you about
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that just started jiu jitsu um
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like a year ago
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he wrestled in high school and is like a unit
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like powerlifter
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like competitive powerlifter for many years
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so
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he's actually teaching me how to back squat right now
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and it's like insane
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because I've never really like lifted weights before
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and like I had I don't know
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like 200 pounds on my back and I was like bro
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get this shit off me bro
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I felt like it's gonna snap my spine in half
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um but yeah
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he's just he's a
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he's a super good dude
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he actually ended up marrying me and my wife
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um just like a super strong like man of God
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just a unit um
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he's actually
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he like runs us
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young adults group that we're a part of at our church
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also so
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he's just like
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a really good guy with a lot of knowledge
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and he knows a lot of cool people
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so we were like let's do it man
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we're like figuring out my basement right now
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one half is martial arts related and workout related
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and the other half is undisclosed right now or
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you know it's
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it's up in the air so we're trying to figure it out
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yeah well what uh
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what church you go to uh
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vintage 2 42 it's over in Acworth
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um kind of
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I guess it's a Dallas address
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but it's it's in Acworth
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you know mmm hmm
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close to downtown Acworth around there cool
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and how uh
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yeah I can't believe
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you're a professional bare knuckle boxer now
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yeah yes
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that's crazy to me dude
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yeah sometimes I like after a fight
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my hands will be banged up and I'm like
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should have stayed in sales man
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ha ha ha ha ha it's crazy
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but you know it's a
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it's a fun life man it's always exciting
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well everything is sales
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you are still in sales yeah
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you know
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it's just now there's a new performance element
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and a little bit more uh
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risk of getting punched in the face
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yeah yeah
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no doubt yeah
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that is so wild to me I was gonna ask you this too
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you were talking about lifting
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and you never really trained much
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like heavy weight stuff do you feel like it uh
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would slow you down any or
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or the opposite I wonder how that affects cause you
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cause you're fast yeah yeah
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I mean you're a speed explosive timing coordination
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I'm just trying to imagine cause I don't
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I've never trained striking or footwork
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yeah it's like
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it's a weird balance right
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like the guys who have too much muscle
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sometimes it can slow them down right
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you know I always said
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I was like if I stop knocking people out
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then I'll just like pick up the weights
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cause everyone like dude
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they clown me at the gym they're like
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oh you don't do weightlifting
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you don't do weightlifting
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you don't do weight training
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and I would do like hit workouts Crossfit
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like makeshift Crossfit workouts right
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like really just for like the cardiovascular endurance
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like like for weights also
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but like I would do like this
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his name is Dan um
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like college strength and conditioning coach
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he watched all my footage
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like my film like
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if this is how you wanna fight
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and this is how you are fighting
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let's build around that it's like so specific
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how I feel once I get back in the mix of like
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hard sparring but I
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like I've been doing creatine and like
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I have all these new supplement stacks for the morning
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I kind of took inventory of my career and I was like
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these different areas uh
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strength conditioning being one of them
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with all your supplementation
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uh a lot of it I
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one of the best teams in the world
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like the people around me are so knowledgeable
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a lot of time I go to my guys at DFA Chiropractor
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they're up in Sandy Springs
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they are like I say chiropractor
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like I you know clinic
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he's um does the 400 hurdles unit right
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he was in he's just a professional all around
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a lot of heart and soil stuff
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just to see how I feel with like beef organs
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from heart and soil also called like fire starter
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I don't know it's just making me hot all the time
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that kind of built out this day and night sleep stack
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like a different type of magnesium and zinc at night
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it's very dense it's um
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so much data yeah
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long winded I mean he's a professor
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cause he'll break down
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everything you need to know about peptides
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don't worry about stacking all these supplements
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if you're not getting good sleep
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if you're not getting sunlight in the morning
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to limit your exposure to toxic relationships
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like all of these things that stacked
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you know it sounds pretty common sensical
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you know but at the same time they
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things happen you creep in and it's like
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wait a minute I don't need another supplement
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if I just downed a pint of ice cream
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you know like maybe I should focus on my diet
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yeah maybe I should see the sun every once in a while
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maybe I should stop playing video games for 10 hours
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yeah dude
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one thing that I've been so excited to get and I'm like
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cause it's expensive is a chili pad
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have you ever seen those huh
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it is like I I get hot bro
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and I sleep hot and it's messing up my sleep
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um like I'm
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I'm married and we have a king size bed
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if it's hot over here
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you know what I mean
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and that's not a thing for me right now
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so I'm like I'm getting so hot
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so a chili pad is like
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like a mattress
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it almost looks like a mattress protector
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but it's pumps like cold water through it
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um and it's OK
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you can set the temperature to like whatever you want
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so I could say it's like 56 or 57 or 60
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and it like lowers your overall body temperature
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peak recovery time when you're sleeping
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and stuff like that
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so that's one of those things that I've been like
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I heard it from a podcast and I was like bro
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I need that and then I talked to my buddy
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that he runs in the Olympics
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and he's like this is the
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the biggest game changer for me
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he's like you spend 1/3 of your
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your life sleeping
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like you need to get high quality sleep
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that's always a compelling argument
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isn't it yeah
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I'm like sign me up bro
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sign me up you know uh
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Huberman's sponsored by the 8 sleep Bed
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which is like you know
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yeah Wi-Fi
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I didn't like that it requires a subscription
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but interesting
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but it's a smart bed that cools and or heats
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same kind of concept I don't have any of that
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but I do have a box fan and okay
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it blows air and it feels great haha
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yeah you know
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that that works pretty well
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which just has a tube that runs
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you know into your bed and blows fans under your sheets
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that's not bad right
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um those are just
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yeah'cause I'm like man
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I would love to have one of these fancy beds
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but I'm like not quite ready to drop
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I don't know five yeah
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seven eight grand on a mattress but yeah
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I don't know spend a third of your life on it right
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yeah that's I mean
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I was really thinking about it like I'm 29
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I'm about to get into that like
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unk status where I'm like
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30s are here you know
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like I need to be getting good sleep yeah
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really good sleep
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so I think I'm gonna make the investment
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I you know
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there's a lot of stuff that I never had to think about
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and now I'm thinking about it like
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it's like a
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it's almost half of my training is like my warm up
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my recovery my um
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my little rehab I'm doing with the bands
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grandma rehab you know what I mean
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and it's like dude
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this stuff keeps you intact and alive
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like I remember when I was in my early 20s
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I was just like wake up hungover
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still a little bit drunk
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be at practice on Saturday morning
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have the best practice of your life
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get Chipotle with the boys
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repeat and it was like peak performance
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like I didn't have to worry about anything yeah
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literally
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and now I'm like dude
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if I have a couple beers I'm like
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next morning I'm cooked yeah
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I'm cooked so it's
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it's it's interesting bro
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the the changes I've been
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I've been kind of discovering
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you know
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you know I
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when I was I trained on like 13 years of Crossfit
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I did Crossfit this morning too
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but I'm just not as into it as I used to be
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cause I'm supplementing jiu jitsu
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and I try to skateboard once a week
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nice um
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nice just to do things that are fun
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but Matt Frazier was like the dominant competitor
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you know I don't know
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five or six years nobody beat him
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he just had a significant advantage
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um even if he didn't win every event
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um he won every games
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yeah and one thing that stood out to me is he said
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you know everybody's focusing on their performance
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I focus on recovery and he said
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you know sleep when it's cold
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make sure you're getting enough sleep
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wind down you know clear
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you know an hour before bed and and after you wake up
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you know free of blue light
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you know he even said
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um yeah
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sleep and sleep cold also
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you know experiment with uh
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waking up with light instead of sound
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which doesn't really work when you sharing a bed right
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with somebody but uh
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I thought that idea of focus on recovery
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cause I'm 42 now and I've been training
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uh in some sort of athletic thing since I was
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I don't know 15
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yeah and a lot of miles still doing jiu jitsu
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still getting cranked and dropped
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and all that good stuff and um
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you know and that's what has LED me to
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you know build the sauna in the basement
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I got a cold plunge in my garage
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nice and um
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00:12:49,850 --> 00:12:53,000
try to find those ways to stay young
411
00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,333
obviously cutting drinking helped me yeah
412
00:12:56,333 --> 00:12:57,433
a lot um
413
00:12:57,966 --> 00:12:59,850
I'm just not into it as much as I used to be
414
00:12:59,850 --> 00:13:01,783
and well I'm not into it at all now
415
00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,850
but now I have a beer I mean
416
00:13:03,850 --> 00:13:05,583
I get a headache before I get buzzed
417
00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:06,783
that's where I'm at alright
418
00:13:06,883 --> 00:13:08,966
well that was fun while it lasted
419
00:13:08,966 --> 00:13:09,900
I guess yeah
420
00:13:09,966 --> 00:13:11,600
like it's a interesting idea
421
00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,450
I've heard a lot of people talking about like
422
00:13:13,450 --> 00:13:16,966
your next workout is only as good as your last recovery
423
00:13:16,966 --> 00:13:19,500
yeah and when I really started thinking about that like
424
00:13:20,333 --> 00:13:23,233
yeah bro like the minutes stacked to hours
425
00:13:23,483 --> 00:13:25,233
and the hours stacked to days
426
00:13:25,366 --> 00:13:26,133
and next thing you know
427
00:13:26,133 --> 00:13:27,966
you're looking across the ring from somebody
428
00:13:27,966 --> 00:13:29,500
that you've put in
429
00:13:30,133 --> 00:13:33,066
60 extra days than them in that one
430
00:13:33,250 --> 00:13:34,983
you know two month camp
431
00:13:35,083 --> 00:13:36,200
it's a lot of days you know
432
00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,166
or whatever you know
433
00:13:37,166 --> 00:13:40,550
you put in a lot of extra hours and it's just uh
434
00:13:40,766 --> 00:13:43,966
it's a it's a crazy thing to think about like you
435
00:13:43,966 --> 00:13:45,566
we always think about more more more more
436
00:13:45,566 --> 00:13:46,966
more and I
437
00:13:46,966 --> 00:13:49,966
I feel like recently I've been shifting to like
438
00:13:49,966 --> 00:13:52,833
more intentional work like not necessarily
439
00:13:53,283 --> 00:13:54,250
you know the quantity
440
00:13:54,250 --> 00:13:56,850
more of the quality and then putting more into recovery
441
00:13:56,850 --> 00:13:58,283
it's been it's been nice
442
00:13:58,283 --> 00:14:00,183
I've been having to like battle my
443
00:14:00,333 --> 00:14:03,250
my own head of like you know
444
00:14:03,250 --> 00:14:05,450
I think over training is like
445
00:14:05,450 --> 00:14:06,650
it's kind of like insecurity
446
00:14:06,650 --> 00:14:07,233
you know
447
00:14:07,233 --> 00:14:08,350
if you're not
448
00:14:08,450 --> 00:14:11,200
if you're not confident enough to train how much and
449
00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,683
and and not go over that
450
00:14:12,683 --> 00:14:14,800
you know my head in my head
451
00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,433
like when Tuesday rolls around bro
452
00:14:16,766 --> 00:14:18,566
I'm like I got so much more gas in the tank
453
00:14:18,566 --> 00:14:20,333
Tuesday's my my light day right
454
00:14:20,333 --> 00:14:22,483
so Monday's hard Tuesday's a little bit lighter
455
00:14:22,483 --> 00:14:25,133
Wednesday's hard and it kind of stacks that way um
456
00:14:25,133 --> 00:14:27,650
and Tuesday comes around and I just wanna get it bro
457
00:14:27,650 --> 00:14:30,600
like I just wanna sink my teeth in and go
458
00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,000
and I'll leave practice like having so much more
459
00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,000
and I'm having to battle that in like wind it back like
460
00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,450
you know take it back and go okay
461
00:14:37,450 --> 00:14:39,000
this is like I did my work
462
00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,500
like tomorrow's a hard day
463
00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,533
let's chill and that's not the easiest thing
464
00:14:42,533 --> 00:14:44,500
it's at least for me personally
465
00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,233
so yeah imagine man
466
00:14:46,366 --> 00:14:47,566
well it also
467
00:14:47,566 --> 00:14:51,850
it's gotta come with just years of being an athlete
468
00:14:51,850 --> 00:14:54,000
I mean you have to know your body and know your
469
00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,200
your you know
470
00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,733
payload understand when to back off right
471
00:14:57,733 --> 00:15:00,200
and like you can't just learn that overnight yeah
472
00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,100
you gotta hit the max and then
473
00:15:02,350 --> 00:15:05,800
you know you gotta vacillate between extremes
474
00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,200
before you can really find that middle ground like nah
475
00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,933
this is where I need to be yeah
476
00:15:09,933 --> 00:15:10,600
and you know
477
00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,566
I'm still trying to figure that out in jiu jitsu
478
00:15:12,566 --> 00:15:13,166
I'm like ah
479
00:15:13,166 --> 00:15:14,566
maybe I should you know
480
00:15:14,566 --> 00:15:17,483
as I don't worry about um
481
00:15:17,483 --> 00:15:20,566
gassing out as much as I do like my
482
00:15:20,566 --> 00:15:23,683
this pinky went this way the other day and
483
00:15:23,683 --> 00:15:28,900
you know my neck and back and wrists knees yeah
484
00:15:29,133 --> 00:15:29,933
yeah
485
00:15:30,333 --> 00:15:30,883
literally dude
486
00:15:30,883 --> 00:15:31,950
I um
487
00:15:32,850 --> 00:15:33,883
jujitsu I've gotten
488
00:15:33,883 --> 00:15:35,883
more injured from jujitsu than any other sport
489
00:15:35,883 --> 00:15:37,250
in my entire life like
490
00:15:37,250 --> 00:15:39,533
and I've also got more black eyes from jujitsu
491
00:15:39,533 --> 00:15:40,966
really than yeah
492
00:15:40,966 --> 00:15:43,366
and then I'm like a professional striker now and like
493
00:15:43,366 --> 00:15:44,783
don't do any jiu jitsu
494
00:15:44,850 --> 00:15:47,450
I go back to jiu jitsu and I catch an elbow or a knee
495
00:15:47,450 --> 00:15:48,083
or you know what I mean
496
00:15:48,083 --> 00:15:49,666
or you take somebody down and they're
497
00:15:49,850 --> 00:15:51,766
they're kind of sprawl and their hip hits you in the
498
00:15:51,766 --> 00:15:52,766
in the face and you're like
499
00:15:52,766 --> 00:15:55,850
dang dude this is like I'm getting beat up over here
500
00:15:55,850 --> 00:15:56,700
like hahaha
501
00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:57,733
it's insane bro
502
00:15:57,733 --> 00:15:58,400
it Jiu jitsu is a
503
00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,850
it's a fun sport and it's cool because like
504
00:16:01,850 --> 00:16:03,683
you get out what you put into it yeah
505
00:16:03,683 --> 00:16:04,400
you know yeah
506
00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,200
if you really want to like immerse yourself
507
00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,650
in that you'll get so much out of it
508
00:16:07,650 --> 00:16:08,500
it's pretty cool
509
00:16:09,050 --> 00:16:11,333
see I'm not in the phase of life where I'm like
510
00:16:11,333 --> 00:16:14,566
really trying to test myself against the best guys now
511
00:16:14,566 --> 00:16:15,083
I'm like look
512
00:16:15,083 --> 00:16:17,283
I'm a hobbyist I'm a dad
513
00:16:17,283 --> 00:16:19,233
I'm middle aged uh
514
00:16:19,533 --> 00:16:21,283
you know I just want to have fun
515
00:16:21,283 --> 00:16:24,083
this is this is just fitness for me
516
00:16:24,083 --> 00:16:26,850
you know like this is just total entertainment
517
00:16:26,850 --> 00:16:29,166
this is my recreation yeah
518
00:16:29,166 --> 00:16:29,366
yeah dude
519
00:16:29,366 --> 00:16:29,483
I
520
00:16:29,483 --> 00:16:31,933
I tell people all the time that they want to start like
521
00:16:31,933 --> 00:16:34,433
kickboxing or jiu jitsu um
522
00:16:34,650 --> 00:16:35,283
and I'm like dude
523
00:16:35,283 --> 00:16:38,366
if you like had a I don't know if you
524
00:16:38,366 --> 00:16:39,966
if you had a heart rate monitor on
525
00:16:39,966 --> 00:16:42,166
and you saw how many calories you burn
526
00:16:42,166 --> 00:16:43,866
from a jiu jitsu class
527
00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,533
and you try to do that on the treadmill
528
00:16:45,533 --> 00:16:46,983
you'll be bored out of your mind
529
00:16:47,283 --> 00:16:48,883
like go scrap for three
530
00:16:48,883 --> 00:16:50,633
five minute rounds after practice
531
00:16:50,733 --> 00:16:52,533
you will be you will burn so many calories
532
00:16:52,533 --> 00:16:54,400
you'll be sore and muscle like you'll be like wow
533
00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:55,650
I didn't even know I had a muscle there
534
00:16:55,650 --> 00:16:56,333
like what is that
535
00:16:56,333 --> 00:16:57,366
what is that you know
536
00:16:57,366 --> 00:16:58,166
like
537
00:16:58,450 --> 00:17:01,083
it's so fun and it's such a good way to stay in shape
538
00:17:01,083 --> 00:17:04,800
and also like if you have that competitive edge to like
539
00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,200
have an outlet for that yeah
540
00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,400
it's awesome it's awesome
541
00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:08,200
and you cause you're
542
00:17:08,250 --> 00:17:08,883
I don't know my
543
00:17:08,883 --> 00:17:10,133
I kind of think about it like
544
00:17:10,133 --> 00:17:11,800
you're facing real life adversity
545
00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,433
like someone's trying to choke you out
546
00:17:13,566 --> 00:17:14,766
it's a real life adversity
547
00:17:14,766 --> 00:17:14,850
like
548
00:17:14,850 --> 00:17:18,966
I need to get out of this choke or I'm gonna pass out
549
00:17:18,966 --> 00:17:19,683
you know yeah
550
00:17:19,683 --> 00:17:22,483
like a lot of the stuff that's kind of it
551
00:17:22,483 --> 00:17:25,566
it lets us get uh you know kind of wound up
552
00:17:25,566 --> 00:17:27,333
it's kind of trivial when you like
553
00:17:27,333 --> 00:17:28,566
go get it out over there
554
00:17:28,566 --> 00:17:29,850
and you face some real life adversity
555
00:17:29,850 --> 00:17:30,733
someone trying to choke you out
556
00:17:30,733 --> 00:17:32,300
or slam you on your head you're like
557
00:17:32,483 --> 00:17:33,766
alright man somebody cut me off
558
00:17:33,766 --> 00:17:36,066
I'm kind of I'm cool yeah
559
00:17:36,283 --> 00:17:38,100
I thought about this when I had uh
560
00:17:38,566 --> 00:17:41,900
Professor Alex and Rick is on just like that feeling
561
00:17:41,933 --> 00:17:45,966
that drive home after a day of training and just
562
00:17:45,966 --> 00:17:46,766
you know
563
00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,250
I especially when you're the hammer but you know
564
00:17:49,250 --> 00:17:50,733
even when you're the nail like
565
00:17:50,733 --> 00:17:51,483
you know when you're
566
00:17:51,483 --> 00:17:55,083
you're going home and you're like in silence exhausted
567
00:17:55,083 --> 00:17:57,550
no music exhausted no music on
568
00:17:57,566 --> 00:18:00,383
there is a level of peace that
569
00:18:00,650 --> 00:18:02,366
people just don't understand yeah
570
00:18:02,366 --> 00:18:03,733
you know yeah
571
00:18:03,733 --> 00:18:07,166
sometimes all your aggression out and you're like spent
572
00:18:07,166 --> 00:18:10,666
yeah physically spent just like bro
573
00:18:10,966 --> 00:18:12,200
let's do it again yeah
574
00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,683
you know like I gotta tap that one guy that got me yeah
575
00:18:15,683 --> 00:18:17,400
or that one guy finished a double egg on me
576
00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,133
like if I didn't you know
577
00:18:19,133 --> 00:18:20,933
if I bump the wall or bumped into my person
578
00:18:20,933 --> 00:18:21,566
you know like yeah
579
00:18:21,566 --> 00:18:23,166
you kind of like I'm gonna get that back
580
00:18:23,166 --> 00:18:25,283
it's so fun bro it's a blast dude
581
00:18:25,283 --> 00:18:28,200
I miss jiu jitsu a lot I always talk about um
582
00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,250
whenever I'm done fighting
583
00:18:29,250 --> 00:18:30,683
like I'm gonna become like
584
00:18:30,683 --> 00:18:34,650
a lab rat and shoot up all kinds of testosterone and
585
00:18:34,650 --> 00:18:37,050
like all kinds of stuff and just go to Naga
586
00:18:37,050 --> 00:18:38,833
blue belt division and just like
587
00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,366
have a blast you know
588
00:18:40,366 --> 00:18:41,450
like it's gonna be great
589
00:18:41,450 --> 00:18:42,600
it's gonna be awesome oh my gosh
590
00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,683
do you uh do you mess with any of the peptide stuff
591
00:18:44,683 --> 00:18:47,366
I don't man I don't I was going to for this thumb
592
00:18:47,366 --> 00:18:50,533
I I broke the thumb in honestly
593
00:18:50,533 --> 00:18:52,000
it looks like I broke it in three places
594
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,283
like it's broken all the way through
595
00:18:53,283 --> 00:18:54,683
but it happened in the first round
596
00:18:54,683 --> 00:18:56,800
and I did six rounds of my last fight
597
00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,333
so I just kept throwing it
598
00:18:58,333 --> 00:18:59,966
and so it's like shattered
599
00:18:59,966 --> 00:19:02,100
almost like there's pieces of it chipped off
600
00:19:02,133 --> 00:19:04,333
and the I was talking to this lady and she was like
601
00:19:04,333 --> 00:19:07,133
do you wanna like she was wanting to to work out a
602
00:19:07,133 --> 00:19:09,450
a deal with me and I was like honestly
603
00:19:09,450 --> 00:19:13,566
I did some research on it and like the risk for me
604
00:19:13,566 --> 00:19:15,533
I don't know if it was it would be worth the reward
605
00:19:15,533 --> 00:19:18,883
like I get maybe a month sooner and like
606
00:19:18,883 --> 00:19:20,266
I don't know if I have any
607
00:19:20,566 --> 00:19:21,800
I'm kind of a scaredy cat too
608
00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,066
so like I don't know if I have any tumors in my body
609
00:19:24,566 --> 00:19:25,933
that are just sitting there
610
00:19:25,933 --> 00:19:26,966
but if there's
611
00:19:26,966 --> 00:19:30,050
a possibility that it might increase them
612
00:19:30,050 --> 00:19:32,150
or make them grow faster or bigger
613
00:19:32,650 --> 00:19:34,050
I'll just heal this thing up
614
00:19:34,050 --> 00:19:35,800
you know but like I
615
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,966
I think that's just partially ignorant statement
616
00:19:37,966 --> 00:19:40,483
because I don't really know all about it
617
00:19:40,483 --> 00:19:41,983
you know I know they say like
618
00:19:42,533 --> 00:19:44,633
are there any cancers in your immediate family
619
00:19:45,250 --> 00:19:47,283
and if the answer is no it's usually safe
620
00:19:47,283 --> 00:19:48,933
but for me I was thinking to myself
621
00:19:48,933 --> 00:19:49,983
I mean that's like
622
00:19:50,650 --> 00:19:52,083
it's a lot of unknowns it's like
623
00:19:52,083 --> 00:19:53,166
oh you're probably fine
624
00:19:53,166 --> 00:19:54,683
so yeah I kind of just
625
00:19:54,683 --> 00:19:57,483
I stayed away from it do you do any peptide stuff
626
00:19:57,483 --> 00:19:58,450
yeah yeah
627
00:19:58,450 --> 00:19:59,266
I'm a
628
00:20:00,050 --> 00:20:00,733
well it's funny
629
00:20:00,733 --> 00:20:01,800
going back to what you said
630
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,133
I wouldn't consider you scared
631
00:20:04,133 --> 00:20:05,366
yeah yeah
632
00:20:05,366 --> 00:20:08,966
that's just maybe cautious is a better word
633
00:20:08,966 --> 00:20:09,766
sure right
634
00:20:09,966 --> 00:20:10,933
yeah like no
635
00:20:10,933 --> 00:20:11,566
I don't
636
00:20:11,566 --> 00:20:15,700
I don't think professional bare knuckle boxer is scared
637
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,200
um yeah
638
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,783
but see I also
639
00:20:19,683 --> 00:20:20,800
yeah I'm
640
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:21,883
I'm it's funny
641
00:20:21,883 --> 00:20:22,750
cause like
642
00:20:23,283 --> 00:20:25,050
I'm not too cautious
643
00:20:25,050 --> 00:20:27,466
these days about trying new protocols
644
00:20:27,566 --> 00:20:29,766
um with my injuries or
645
00:20:29,766 --> 00:20:31,183
or what not because
646
00:20:32,050 --> 00:20:33,533
well I'll tell you what changes it
647
00:20:33,533 --> 00:20:35,933
I was cautious and skeptical of all this stuff
648
00:20:35,933 --> 00:20:37,783
until I developed chronic pain
649
00:20:37,933 --> 00:20:40,333
and it didn't go away and I started to wrestle
650
00:20:40,333 --> 00:20:43,266
with the idea that this might be the new normal
651
00:20:43,450 --> 00:20:46,050
yeah and that's a terrible scary
652
00:20:46,050 --> 00:20:48,233
that is scary that is scary
653
00:20:48,333 --> 00:20:50,500
because when you're carrying this pain and
654
00:20:51,366 --> 00:20:54,283
you know and I'm the last 4
655
00:20:54,283 --> 00:20:57,250
5 years I've been reading a lot of medical books um
656
00:20:57,250 --> 00:20:57,800
actually
657
00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,500
good energy by Doctor Casey Means was a great one um
658
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,450
David Sinclair wrote he's interesting
659
00:21:05,450 --> 00:21:07,966
there's a lot of interesting brain energy
660
00:21:07,966 --> 00:21:08,950
good energy
661
00:21:08,983 --> 00:21:11,083
aging as a disease and how to prevent it
662
00:21:11,083 --> 00:21:13,650
there's all of this fascinating research and
663
00:21:13,650 --> 00:21:15,466
you know the amount of time to where
664
00:21:15,683 --> 00:21:16,450
try you know
665
00:21:16,450 --> 00:21:20,200
human trial tests that have passed all these uh
666
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,650
protocols like between uh
667
00:21:22,650 --> 00:21:25,583
when the American Medical Association approves
668
00:21:25,733 --> 00:21:29,433
a new study that has been human tested and proven
669
00:21:29,683 --> 00:21:31,250
between that point
670
00:21:31,250 --> 00:21:33,483
and when you'll actually get that treatment
671
00:21:33,483 --> 00:21:38,183
in your local provider in a big modern area
672
00:21:38,333 --> 00:21:40,483
uh an urban area like Atlanta yeah
673
00:21:40,483 --> 00:21:42,800
that amount of time is about 18 years
674
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,650
that's insane in rural areas like where I'm from
675
00:21:45,650 --> 00:21:47,450
it's 25 years wow
676
00:21:47,450 --> 00:21:50,133
so they're behind the ball a quarter of a century
677
00:21:50,133 --> 00:21:51,400
18 years yeah
678
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:51,933
that's insane
679
00:21:51,933 --> 00:21:53,883
that's the average you're done for at that point
680
00:21:53,883 --> 00:21:55,000
that's the average yeah
681
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:55,650
you're done you know
682
00:21:55,650 --> 00:21:59,050
like so we're not working with modern science and
683
00:21:59,050 --> 00:21:59,600
and you know
684
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:00,800
you start listening to Huberman
685
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,450
and start thinking about things like
686
00:22:02,450 --> 00:22:04,833
where can I take personal agency
687
00:22:04,883 --> 00:22:07,083
like take responsibility for what's working
688
00:22:07,083 --> 00:22:09,600
don't just blindly accept what your doctor says dude
689
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,183
I went into a doctor um
690
00:22:12,333 --> 00:22:14,366
I was in better shape then uh
691
00:22:14,366 --> 00:22:16,033
in training you know
692
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,200
way more Crossfit then um
693
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,683
but still about the same weight
694
00:22:19,683 --> 00:22:21,533
you know about 190 pounds
695
00:22:21,533 --> 00:22:27,233
5 foot 10 and uh my doctor's was a heavy set lady and
696
00:22:27,483 --> 00:22:29,683
you know I'm just getting an annual yeah
697
00:22:29,683 --> 00:22:31,533
and just nothing fancy and she's like
698
00:22:31,533 --> 00:22:32,883
well according to your chart
699
00:22:32,883 --> 00:22:34,600
you're a you're a beast
700
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,633
yeah you're a beast
701
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,133
and I was like look at my shirt
702
00:22:37,133 --> 00:22:38,400
I was like I got an eight pack
703
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,133
I can run a 5:30 mile like
704
00:22:40,133 --> 00:22:41,683
you wanna tell me that she's like well
705
00:22:41,683 --> 00:22:42,733
this is what the chart says
706
00:22:42,733 --> 00:22:43,133
I was like what
707
00:22:43,133 --> 00:22:46,033
what's your personal analysis doctor
708
00:22:46,083 --> 00:22:47,283
yeah I was like
709
00:22:47,283 --> 00:22:48,750
this could be our last visit
710
00:22:48,883 --> 00:22:49,650
it's insane I was like
711
00:22:49,650 --> 00:22:51,066
you know just to think about things for a minute
712
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:53,133
and you know
713
00:22:53,133 --> 00:22:53,933
it's um
714
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:54,450
she's like well
715
00:22:54,450 --> 00:22:56,366
I just gotta I gotta follow the protocol
716
00:22:56,366 --> 00:22:58,650
I gotta read what I have to say
717
00:22:58,650 --> 00:22:59,566
what I you know
718
00:22:59,566 --> 00:23:00,533
it's like alright
719
00:23:00,533 --> 00:23:03,266
you guys are just mouthpieces for this institution
720
00:23:03,333 --> 00:23:03,850
so yeah
721
00:23:03,850 --> 00:23:08,800
I'm a lot less trusting of like traditional medicine
722
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,533
um western medicine plus
723
00:23:11,533 --> 00:23:12,400
I mean I can be honest
724
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,583
like my mom is is
725
00:23:14,883 --> 00:23:15,333
you know
726
00:23:15,333 --> 00:23:18,850
a great example of why not to listen to the doctors
727
00:23:18,850 --> 00:23:20,933
when'cause the doctors will always come up with a new
728
00:23:20,933 --> 00:23:24,366
experimental treatment and if you just listen to them
729
00:23:24,366 --> 00:23:25,950
and don't take any personal
730
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,833
responsibility for your life yeah
731
00:23:27,833 --> 00:23:28,800
like we talked about uh
732
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,800
adding supplements
733
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,933
if you're still like down in pints of ice cream right
734
00:23:31,933 --> 00:23:32,733
like right
735
00:23:32,733 --> 00:23:35,050
maybe you should have an honest look at your diet
736
00:23:35,050 --> 00:23:36,683
before you start you know
737
00:23:36,683 --> 00:23:39,133
supplementing with all these things um
738
00:23:39,133 --> 00:23:42,483
your sleep your exercise exposure to
739
00:23:42,483 --> 00:23:44,133
you know you know
740
00:23:44,133 --> 00:23:46,000
damaging relationships all these things
741
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:46,933
you should take account of
742
00:23:46,933 --> 00:23:49,883
before you start really going with peptide therapy
743
00:23:49,883 --> 00:23:50,966
or whatever but yeah
744
00:23:50,966 --> 00:23:52,766
I do mess with peptides no
745
00:23:52,766 --> 00:23:53,333
I dude
746
00:23:53,333 --> 00:23:57,933
it's so funny you say that because I was listening to a
747
00:23:57,933 --> 00:23:58,883
a video the other day
748
00:23:58,883 --> 00:24:02,633
and it was talking about the pharmaceutical company
749
00:24:02,933 --> 00:24:05,850
how they are you know
750
00:24:05,850 --> 00:24:07,783
98% of them are petroleum based
751
00:24:07,883 --> 00:24:10,333
and the Rockefellers own that
752
00:24:10,333 --> 00:24:13,183
and then there is like a whole another
753
00:24:14,650 --> 00:24:16,733
story of this video where it talks about
754
00:24:16,733 --> 00:24:18,683
how they went through each medical institution
755
00:24:18,683 --> 00:24:19,483
and either
756
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,400
you know bought them out
757
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,766
like gave them grants to teach this way of medicine
758
00:24:23,766 --> 00:24:26,250
or got them shut down somehow
759
00:24:26,250 --> 00:24:28,333
and how you know
760
00:24:28,333 --> 00:24:29,866
you fast forward 100 years later
761
00:24:30,683 --> 00:24:34,533
the pharmaceutical industry is 98% petroleum based
762
00:24:34,533 --> 00:24:36,033
which they owned all the petroleum
763
00:24:36,083 --> 00:24:38,766
and they went to each medical place and said
764
00:24:38,766 --> 00:24:41,266
this is the new standard for medicine
765
00:24:41,483 --> 00:24:42,533
here's a bunch of money
766
00:24:42,533 --> 00:24:43,933
to teach this standard way of medicine
767
00:24:43,933 --> 00:24:45,533
and then you know
768
00:24:45,533 --> 00:24:46,733
you look at where we're at and you're like
769
00:24:46,733 --> 00:24:47,083
oh wow
770
00:24:47,083 --> 00:24:50,366
we are not the healthiest of individuals and if we just
771
00:24:50,366 --> 00:24:50,683
you know
772
00:24:50,683 --> 00:24:53,966
like thinking for yourself I think is I don't know
773
00:24:53,966 --> 00:24:55,800
it's like a forgotten art right now
774
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,800
you know like we're such big consumers of like
775
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,000
we're just consumers you know what I mean
776
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,600
like fast fix man everything man
777
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:02,966
and that's something that I've been feeling like
778
00:25:02,966 --> 00:25:04,250
super convicted about recently
779
00:25:04,250 --> 00:25:04,933
is like
780
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,533
the things that I'm eating
781
00:25:06,533 --> 00:25:08,633
like we were pretty clean when it comes to like
782
00:25:08,733 --> 00:25:09,883
like no seed oils
783
00:25:09,883 --> 00:25:12,366
like turn the Wi-Fi off at night that like
784
00:25:12,366 --> 00:25:15,483
you know the whole nine when it comes to like my wife
785
00:25:15,483 --> 00:25:17,966
thank God she's like gonna help us live to 100
786
00:25:17,966 --> 00:25:19,033
you know but like
787
00:25:19,483 --> 00:25:23,600
we eat pretty clean and and all of our stuff is pretty
788
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,850
like pretty holistic also
789
00:25:24,850 --> 00:25:26,066
and and it's just
790
00:25:26,366 --> 00:25:31,266
it's interesting that it's almost impossible to do that
791
00:25:31,333 --> 00:25:34,750
like if you didn't have a decent income
792
00:25:34,850 --> 00:25:37,483
it's very hard it's very hard to do that
793
00:25:37,483 --> 00:25:39,333
like you go out to eat like
794
00:25:39,333 --> 00:25:39,650
I know
795
00:25:39,650 --> 00:25:43,083
I can name one restaurant that has like no seed oils
796
00:25:43,083 --> 00:25:45,966
where the food is organic and it's um
797
00:25:45,966 --> 00:25:47,166
like the eggs are far
798
00:25:47,166 --> 00:25:49,883
are pasture raised and the meat is grass fed
799
00:25:49,883 --> 00:25:52,966
like I know one restaurant and I'm like
800
00:25:52,966 --> 00:25:54,200
I've been I've you know what I mean
801
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,333
I've been around like I'm a foodie
802
00:25:56,333 --> 00:25:57,883
I love going to eat food and stuff like that
803
00:25:57,883 --> 00:25:59,983
so it's crazy how
804
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,133
where where we are as a
805
00:26:02,133 --> 00:26:05,283
as a society is so unhealthy
806
00:26:05,283 --> 00:26:06,250
that whenever you start like
807
00:26:06,250 --> 00:26:08,050
taking care of yourself and thinking for yourself
808
00:26:08,050 --> 00:26:09,166
you're looked at as like oh
809
00:26:09,166 --> 00:26:11,083
you're on a diet or you're this it's like no
810
00:26:11,083 --> 00:26:13,200
I'm just like living clean
811
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,883
like I'm just like Wanna be healthy you know yeah
812
00:26:15,883 --> 00:26:18,000
I hate my knees aching every day yeah
813
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:18,850
you know it's
814
00:26:18,850 --> 00:26:20,450
it's it's a really weird time man
815
00:26:20,450 --> 00:26:22,100
but I think there's a lot of um
816
00:26:22,566 --> 00:26:23,850
there's a lot of money to be made
817
00:26:23,850 --> 00:26:26,566
when people are sick and unhappy yeah
818
00:26:26,566 --> 00:26:28,683
so it's like kind of makes sense when you
819
00:26:28,683 --> 00:26:31,050
when you strip it back you know yeah
820
00:26:31,050 --> 00:26:33,283
it is fascinating um
821
00:26:33,283 --> 00:26:35,166
just how I I
822
00:26:35,166 --> 00:26:37,533
I I've got so many examples that come to mind
823
00:26:37,533 --> 00:26:38,983
of people that completely
824
00:26:39,483 --> 00:26:43,650
just accept whatever the doctor says
825
00:26:43,650 --> 00:26:46,166
the doctor will never give them nutrition counseling
826
00:26:46,166 --> 00:26:46,766
I mean there's
827
00:26:46,766 --> 00:26:49,200
it's nothing about what you're eating yeah
828
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,800
but food is medicine right
829
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,183
but even then if they were to give you that
830
00:26:54,333 --> 00:26:54,766
it would be
831
00:26:54,766 --> 00:26:56,883
how many people skewed would actually listen to it yeah
832
00:26:56,883 --> 00:26:59,183
and if it was from a medical institution
833
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,050
it would probably be so skewed yeah
834
00:27:01,050 --> 00:27:02,766
of what's like real you know
835
00:27:02,766 --> 00:27:05,483
like just like yeah
836
00:27:05,483 --> 00:27:06,200
like I mean
837
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,283
I like every meal almost is like red meat yeah
838
00:27:09,283 --> 00:27:11,050
heavy heavy in vitamins and this and that
839
00:27:11,050 --> 00:27:13,333
and like people are like
840
00:27:13,333 --> 00:27:15,766
you're gonna get heart disease and I'm just like
841
00:27:15,766 --> 00:27:17,083
I don't I don't think so
842
00:27:17,083 --> 00:27:18,266
I feel really good
843
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,083
I don't know yeah
844
00:27:19,083 --> 00:27:20,050
it's just it's crazy man
845
00:27:20,050 --> 00:27:22,600
no indications that your heart is failing you as no
846
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,250
you're an extremely well conditioned
847
00:27:24,250 --> 00:27:25,550
professional athlete
848
00:27:26,766 --> 00:27:27,600
it's insane man
849
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,400
it's insane man
850
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,433
and it's like people will live their whole life
851
00:27:31,450 --> 00:27:32,966
with that kind of thing yeah
852
00:27:32,966 --> 00:27:35,183
you know stuck in that way of like
853
00:27:35,483 --> 00:27:37,950
I mean even like little stuff like
854
00:27:37,950 --> 00:27:38,650
I don't know like
855
00:27:38,650 --> 00:27:40,133
like microplastics for instance
856
00:27:40,133 --> 00:27:42,900
like the like the older generation is like
857
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:43,850
it's fine it's fine
858
00:27:43,850 --> 00:27:44,283
it's like dude
859
00:27:44,283 --> 00:27:46,233
there's so many studies about
860
00:27:46,683 --> 00:27:49,283
what microplastics can do to you
861
00:27:49,283 --> 00:27:51,533
you know and it's like hard to eliminate them totally
862
00:27:51,533 --> 00:27:53,733
but it's like a
863
00:27:53,733 --> 00:27:56,783
an effort to make a dent into that is like
864
00:27:57,133 --> 00:27:57,850
probably worth it
865
00:27:57,850 --> 00:27:59,083
but I feel like when you're 50 years old
866
00:27:59,083 --> 00:28:00,166
and you've been doing what you've been doing
867
00:28:00,166 --> 00:28:01,066
your whole life
868
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,233
there's probably not a lot of change
869
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,050
so I recently came across a cool little article um
870
00:28:08,050 --> 00:28:09,983
and I think it was doctor uh
871
00:28:10,733 --> 00:28:12,333
Ronda Patrick Ronda Carter
872
00:28:12,333 --> 00:28:13,150
no she's cool
873
00:28:13,283 --> 00:28:14,233
she's super cool
874
00:28:14,450 --> 00:28:16,166
she was talking about microplastics and
875
00:28:16,166 --> 00:28:17,766
you know obviously we all consume them
876
00:28:17,766 --> 00:28:19,333
they're in our clothes they're in our
877
00:28:19,333 --> 00:28:20,266
you know everywhere
878
00:28:20,433 --> 00:28:21,450
but also uh
879
00:28:21,450 --> 00:28:22,483
she said the good news is
880
00:28:22,483 --> 00:28:26,233
it's very easy for most people to flush them out
881
00:28:26,250 --> 00:28:28,300
particularly with broccoli sprouts
882
00:28:28,333 --> 00:28:29,566
yeah and she's like
883
00:28:29,566 --> 00:28:31,550
or you could take this supplement
884
00:28:31,583 --> 00:28:34,400
and it's basically from broccoli sprouts
885
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,600
and it will flush 98% of all the microplastics out
886
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,166
like that day she's big on the
887
00:28:39,166 --> 00:28:40,683
on the broccoli sprouts yeah
888
00:28:40,683 --> 00:28:43,566
I've heard her talk a lot about the broccoli sprouts
889
00:28:43,566 --> 00:28:45,333
um she seems pretty
890
00:28:45,333 --> 00:28:46,966
like sometimes I'll get through that podcast
891
00:28:46,966 --> 00:28:49,066
like one of her podcasts and I'm like
892
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,250
I don't know if I'm smart
893
00:28:50,250 --> 00:28:52,650
enough to like listen to this right now
894
00:28:52,650 --> 00:28:54,450
cause a half of it's like going over my head
895
00:28:54,450 --> 00:28:56,350
I'll get like 10% of the podcast
896
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,366
but that's really that's crazy
897
00:28:57,366 --> 00:28:58,466
I didn't know that you could
898
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,483
you could flush them out that easy
899
00:29:00,483 --> 00:29:00,683
you know yeah
900
00:29:00,683 --> 00:29:02,133
yeah with the right
901
00:29:02,133 --> 00:29:03,483
you know with the right diet
902
00:29:03,483 --> 00:29:03,966
yeah
903
00:29:03,966 --> 00:29:05,800
yeah I'm constantly trying to experiment
904
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,583
figure out where can I shed
905
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,933
you know things that are
906
00:29:08,933 --> 00:29:11,083
you know slowing me down or not supporting my goals
907
00:29:11,083 --> 00:29:13,966
and my goal is to be one you know
908
00:29:13,966 --> 00:29:16,483
one click more disciplined every year
909
00:29:16,483 --> 00:29:17,366
nice you know
910
00:29:17,366 --> 00:29:19,166
and I don't know what that means
911
00:29:19,166 --> 00:29:20,550
when I turned forty
912
00:29:21,683 --> 00:29:26,933
I felt a charge to stop trying to like
913
00:29:26,933 --> 00:29:30,300
white knuckle everything and see how
914
00:29:30,366 --> 00:29:32,850
see how smooth things go when I let go
915
00:29:32,850 --> 00:29:37,183
hmm so it was more like growth can look like Grace
916
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:37,650
yeah
917
00:29:37,650 --> 00:29:40,583
and also just quit thinking you're driving everything
918
00:29:40,733 --> 00:29:41,200
hmm let's see
919
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,100
so I started experimenting with
920
00:29:43,283 --> 00:29:43,566
you know
921
00:29:43,566 --> 00:29:46,883
not trying to drive my real estate career as much like
922
00:29:46,883 --> 00:29:48,250
let's just be hyper present
923
00:29:48,250 --> 00:29:50,833
and we know that kind of laid the framework for
924
00:29:50,933 --> 00:29:52,600
wanting to go into the podcast space
925
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,800
is just having intentional conversation with people
926
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,250
where I'm not distracted by the phone
927
00:29:57,250 --> 00:29:58,650
you know and now I find myself
928
00:29:58,650 --> 00:30:01,366
all my activities that I build around my life
929
00:30:01,366 --> 00:30:04,083
involve being pride away from my phone
930
00:30:04,083 --> 00:30:05,600
yeah with martial arts
931
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:05,850
you know
932
00:30:05,850 --> 00:30:09,566
being in the sauna or hiking or talking on this
933
00:30:09,566 --> 00:30:11,700
this show whatever um
934
00:30:12,083 --> 00:30:14,366
just separating and trying to be hyper present
935
00:30:14,366 --> 00:30:17,683
obviously when you're boxing or sparring or training
936
00:30:17,683 --> 00:30:19,733
like you're not thinking about your phone at all
937
00:30:19,733 --> 00:30:21,833
no you're hyper present
938
00:30:21,933 --> 00:30:23,400
I think that's why people get hooked
939
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,583
you know because you enter that flow
940
00:30:26,133 --> 00:30:27,483
you know same with jiu jitsu
941
00:30:27,483 --> 00:30:29,166
same with Crossfit yeah
942
00:30:29,166 --> 00:30:32,883
you know it's just nothing else is important anymore
943
00:30:32,883 --> 00:30:35,283
and especially with combat sports
944
00:30:35,283 --> 00:30:36,933
like there's really nothing
945
00:30:36,933 --> 00:30:38,566
more important than the guy that's in front of you
946
00:30:38,566 --> 00:30:39,500
trying to kill you
947
00:30:39,650 --> 00:30:42,766
like nothing else is like has my attention
948
00:30:42,766 --> 00:30:43,000
I think
949
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,266
that's probably why I was drawn to combat sports
950
00:30:45,450 --> 00:30:46,383
is because
951
00:30:46,883 --> 00:30:49,883
it was just the most exciting thing that I could do
952
00:30:49,883 --> 00:30:54,500
legally that was fun and kept me engaged
953
00:30:54,566 --> 00:30:55,283
and I didn't I
954
00:30:55,283 --> 00:30:57,450
you know everything kind of did get shut out for that
955
00:30:57,450 --> 00:30:59,533
like hour long of sparring on Monday nights
956
00:30:59,533 --> 00:31:02,933
or Saturday mornings I was very engaged in something
957
00:31:02,933 --> 00:31:03,433
you know
958
00:31:03,450 --> 00:31:04,250
oh tell me about that
959
00:31:04,250 --> 00:31:06,466
when did you start training martial arts
960
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,200
um well
961
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,600
so I I started doing like taekwondo
962
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,366
like every other kid in America
963
00:31:11,366 --> 00:31:12,733
you know goes to like a taekwondo gym
964
00:31:12,733 --> 00:31:14,533
cause I needed discipline self
965
00:31:14,533 --> 00:31:15,250
you know like
966
00:31:15,250 --> 00:31:15,933
like uh
967
00:31:15,933 --> 00:31:16,883
I had so much energy
968
00:31:16,883 --> 00:31:18,283
and I need to get it out or whatever
969
00:31:18,283 --> 00:31:20,000
so I did that for a long time
970
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,166
how old were you then I was 4
971
00:31:22,166 --> 00:31:23,200
you know like really young
972
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,283
but I don't even remember like I remember my mom
973
00:31:25,283 --> 00:31:27,333
she told me that when she would go to
974
00:31:27,333 --> 00:31:28,533
this was in Southern California
975
00:31:28,533 --> 00:31:30,983
when we would go to the grocery store
976
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,483
there was like a a gym
977
00:31:32,483 --> 00:31:33,766
like a martial arts gym next door
978
00:31:33,766 --> 00:31:35,200
and I was like obsessed
979
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,566
like my dad would take me over there and I'd be like
980
00:31:36,566 --> 00:31:38,133
watching through the glass and like
981
00:31:38,133 --> 00:31:39,900
I loved it and then I would watch like
982
00:31:39,966 --> 00:31:41,366
Bruce Lee movies growing up
983
00:31:41,366 --> 00:31:42,200
and then I would like
984
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,050
watch Manny Pacquiao box with my dad
985
00:31:44,050 --> 00:31:46,800
and like combat sports was so fun to me
986
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,050
and so I did that for a while
987
00:31:48,050 --> 00:31:49,066
moved to Georgia
988
00:31:49,283 --> 00:31:53,983
did taekwondo for a little bit and then I watched um
989
00:31:54,250 --> 00:31:57,533
like some UFC like WEC on YouTube
990
00:31:57,533 --> 00:31:59,966
I watched like the movie Never Back Down and I was like
991
00:31:59,966 --> 00:32:01,850
bro like jiu jitsu seems so cool
992
00:32:01,850 --> 00:32:03,633
so I went did some jiu jitsu
993
00:32:03,733 --> 00:32:07,166
um and that was interesting right
994
00:32:07,166 --> 00:32:09,966
cause I it was like felt like a fish out of water
995
00:32:09,966 --> 00:32:10,983
like I literally
996
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,450
and it was this high school at this point
997
00:32:12,450 --> 00:32:14,366
this was more like yeah
998
00:32:14,366 --> 00:32:16,483
I was like maybe 12 or 13 years old
999
00:32:16,483 --> 00:32:18,466
so a little bit before high school and um
1000
00:32:18,850 --> 00:32:20,600
I was in and out like I broke my arm
1001
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,500
like I um
1002
00:32:22,883 --> 00:32:25,083
I was doing a hip throw on this girl
1003
00:32:25,083 --> 00:32:28,533
and my hand planted and she fell on my arm and like
1004
00:32:28,533 --> 00:32:30,883
snapped it back and chipped this part of my bone off
1005
00:32:30,883 --> 00:32:32,483
and I was like whoa
1006
00:32:32,483 --> 00:32:34,566
that was insane don't ever wanna do that again
1007
00:32:34,566 --> 00:32:36,233
I wrestled for a year in high school
1008
00:32:36,283 --> 00:32:38,266
um and I just
1009
00:32:38,566 --> 00:32:40,083
I just did not excel in
1010
00:32:40,083 --> 00:32:41,933
in wrestling cause I was just for so many years
1011
00:32:41,933 --> 00:32:43,300
I was just like
1012
00:32:44,083 --> 00:32:45,600
I would just like pull guard or something
1013
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,283
if someone would take me down
1014
00:32:46,283 --> 00:32:47,333
I wouldn't fight it you know
1015
00:32:47,333 --> 00:32:48,283
and I just didn't have that like
1016
00:32:48,283 --> 00:32:50,166
dog in me to like be aggressive
1017
00:32:50,166 --> 00:32:52,000
like you have to be pretty aggressive in wrestling
1018
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,583
um and then I was in and out of of training
1019
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,483
like I was really like doing the bare minimum
1020
00:32:57,483 --> 00:33:00,050
I was working there as like a kids instructor
1021
00:33:00,050 --> 00:33:00,850
like a kids coach
1022
00:33:00,850 --> 00:33:04,083
so I had to like do enough to be there
1023
00:33:04,083 --> 00:33:05,133
and I had to be there a lot
1024
00:33:05,133 --> 00:33:07,066
but if I wasn't doing that
1025
00:33:07,083 --> 00:33:09,333
I probably would never have gone back to the gym
1026
00:33:09,333 --> 00:33:11,966
like I just was not interested in like training
1027
00:33:11,966 --> 00:33:14,366
I wasn't I was in the gym but I wasn't like
1028
00:33:14,366 --> 00:33:15,600
oh I wanna get better at this
1029
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:20,250
and then like 2,018 I was like okay
1030
00:33:20,250 --> 00:33:23,400
I really wanna like pursue this cause this is fun
1031
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,366
and I kind of stopped like
1032
00:33:24,366 --> 00:33:25,883
running around out in the streets
1033
00:33:25,883 --> 00:33:27,166
and getting in trouble and all this stuff
1034
00:33:27,166 --> 00:33:28,100
so I was like I
1035
00:33:28,383 --> 00:33:32,783
I could tell I was craving excitement and structure and
1036
00:33:32,883 --> 00:33:34,933
um so I started pursuing like my
1037
00:33:34,933 --> 00:33:37,333
my first goal was like to get a fight
1038
00:33:37,333 --> 00:33:37,450
like
1039
00:33:37,450 --> 00:33:40,933
I wanted to train enough to where my coach was like
1040
00:33:40,933 --> 00:33:42,133
okay you're ready for your first fight
1041
00:33:42,133 --> 00:33:46,033
so that took till I was like I think I was 20
1042
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,500
22 or 24 no 22 when I had my first fight um
1043
00:33:50,766 --> 00:33:54,183
and that was in 2020 January of 2020
1044
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,183
and I had my first MMA fight
1045
00:33:56,333 --> 00:33:59,333
and then ever since then it was just like over with
1046
00:33:59,333 --> 00:33:59,966
I was like okay
1047
00:33:59,966 --> 00:34:01,700
this is fun
1048
00:34:01,850 --> 00:34:04,800
and if I do it right and I play my cards right
1049
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,850
I can make a career out of this like sign me up
1050
00:34:07,850 --> 00:34:08,366
you know yeah
1051
00:34:08,366 --> 00:34:09,483
it was like a long shot goal
1052
00:34:09,483 --> 00:34:10,783
but it was one of those like
1053
00:34:10,783 --> 00:34:12,733
where you always had something to look forward to
1054
00:34:12,733 --> 00:34:14,283
you always had something to drive towards
1055
00:34:14,283 --> 00:34:16,733
and I think I really craved that even outside of the
1056
00:34:16,733 --> 00:34:17,766
the sport itself
1057
00:34:17,766 --> 00:34:21,200
that like one big goal that you wanted to chase
1058
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,650
even though it's like nearly impossible
1059
00:34:23,650 --> 00:34:25,466
it's very difficult you know
1060
00:34:25,566 --> 00:34:25,966
so that
1061
00:34:25,966 --> 00:34:28,266
that was kind of my upbringing in in martial arts
1062
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,500
yeah so at what point were you like
1063
00:34:32,166 --> 00:34:34,766
were you okay to say yeah
1064
00:34:34,766 --> 00:34:38,333
I'm not gonna prioritize like a career or you know
1065
00:34:38,333 --> 00:34:40,000
getting some promotion or something
1066
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,183
I'm gonna prioritize
1067
00:34:41,350 --> 00:34:44,566
developing my skills and becoming a professional ninja
1068
00:34:44,566 --> 00:34:47,683
it was probably like I think it was probably right
1069
00:34:47,683 --> 00:34:49,333
when I had that first fight yeah
1070
00:34:49,333 --> 00:34:50,683
like when I had that oh dude
1071
00:34:50,683 --> 00:34:51,850
I was like yeah
1072
00:34:51,850 --> 00:34:54,633
there's there's nothing else I wanna do with my life
1073
00:34:54,683 --> 00:34:56,366
at this moment than this
1074
00:34:56,366 --> 00:34:58,100
I had an office job at the time
1075
00:34:58,250 --> 00:34:59,566
and I remember going back to the office
1076
00:34:59,566 --> 00:35:00,800
I was in like commercial AR
1077
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,733
like calling insurance companies
1078
00:35:02,733 --> 00:35:06,533
like just mindless work like terrible
1079
00:35:06,533 --> 00:35:08,083
like I would never I did that for like six months
1080
00:35:08,083 --> 00:35:10,650
I jumped all around because I
1081
00:35:10,650 --> 00:35:12,566
it was just whatever worked for my fighting
1082
00:35:12,566 --> 00:35:13,950
so like I did that for a while
1083
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,133
then Covid happened everyone went home
1084
00:35:16,133 --> 00:35:18,450
I went to a buddy's house
1085
00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:19,533
I was like a new hire there
1086
00:35:19,533 --> 00:35:20,366
and I went to his house
1087
00:35:20,366 --> 00:35:22,883
and he kind of showed me the ropes from this
1088
00:35:22,883 --> 00:35:24,433
and then I started working from home
1089
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,450
then I switched from that to another job
1090
00:35:26,450 --> 00:35:27,766
because it worked better for my schedule
1091
00:35:27,766 --> 00:35:30,483
for training and then I realized I just hated that
1092
00:35:30,483 --> 00:35:32,900
so I went to welding school because I was like
1093
00:35:33,933 --> 00:35:36,850
I need I need some type of education to fall back on
1094
00:35:36,850 --> 00:35:38,133
like I dropped out of high school
1095
00:35:38,133 --> 00:35:40,900
and then I got kicked out of another uh
1096
00:35:41,166 --> 00:35:43,633
alternative school and then I ended up getting my GED
1097
00:35:43,883 --> 00:35:44,783
and I was like
1098
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,333
I've been putting all my eggs in this basket
1099
00:35:46,333 --> 00:35:51,666
I need to like take some time to like learn something
1100
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,566
like I need something
1101
00:35:53,566 --> 00:35:56,166
and welding was interesting enough to me
1102
00:35:56,166 --> 00:35:57,683
but also like it was like
1103
00:35:57,683 --> 00:35:59,683
a 6 month course to go through welding school
1104
00:35:59,683 --> 00:36:02,333
and I was like called my parents like hey
1105
00:36:02,333 --> 00:36:04,983
can I move back in for like 6 months
1106
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,933
cause I have to go to school
1107
00:36:05,933 --> 00:36:06,850
and I won't be able to work
1108
00:36:06,850 --> 00:36:07,400
and they're like yeah
1109
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,650
come on so I came back home went to welding school um
1110
00:36:10,650 --> 00:36:14,250
and even that like I knew I didn't want to be a welder
1111
00:36:14,250 --> 00:36:18,266
you know like you're sitting in a room all day putting
1112
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,933
gluing two pieces of metal together
1113
00:36:19,933 --> 00:36:21,533
like that's not fun
1114
00:36:21,533 --> 00:36:23,866
it was more of like a safety net backup plan
1115
00:36:24,116 --> 00:36:24,916
um
1116
00:36:25,050 --> 00:36:26,400
and I'm happy I did that
1117
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,533
because I worked as a welder for six months
1118
00:36:29,533 --> 00:36:32,266
and I just remember being
1119
00:36:32,666 --> 00:36:35,933
in that shop and I was like looking around at everybody
1120
00:36:35,933 --> 00:36:37,683
and I was just like I just don't belong here man
1121
00:36:37,683 --> 00:36:39,150
like these people are so happy
1122
00:36:39,333 --> 00:36:41,700
with just clocking in every morning
1123
00:36:42,166 --> 00:36:44,566
punching in gluing a bunch of metal together
1124
00:36:44,566 --> 00:36:46,400
punching out like they love this
1125
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,833
this is not me so I
1126
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,650
this is the only job I ever drug up on
1127
00:36:50,650 --> 00:36:54,583
I just was like I'm out keys in there
1128
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,950
you're never gonna see me again
1129
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:56,800
um
1130
00:36:56,933 --> 00:36:58,966
I actually end up did seeing them again in my next job
1131
00:36:58,966 --> 00:37:01,233
which was super awkward but um
1132
00:37:01,333 --> 00:37:02,566
I I I left there
1133
00:37:02,566 --> 00:37:06,250
I started bartending and I started selling roofs
1134
00:37:06,250 --> 00:37:08,350
door knocking just cause I was like
1135
00:37:08,483 --> 00:37:09,483
this works with my schedule
1136
00:37:09,483 --> 00:37:11,166
like I can bartend all night
1137
00:37:11,166 --> 00:37:12,650
wake up go to morning practice
1138
00:37:12,650 --> 00:37:14,000
by the time morning practice is over
1139
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,983
I can go door knock for a couple hours
1140
00:37:16,166 --> 00:37:17,850
go back to the bar after practice and like
1141
00:37:17,850 --> 00:37:19,333
it just worked for a long time
1142
00:37:19,333 --> 00:37:21,033
and then um
1143
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:21,733
from there I
1144
00:37:21,733 --> 00:37:25,033
I got into like outside sales and in welding sales
1145
00:37:25,650 --> 00:37:27,500
so I had that base of of welding
1146
00:37:27,533 --> 00:37:29,366
well I'm a couple odd jobs in between
1147
00:37:29,366 --> 00:37:32,150
like I worked in warehouses and this and that but um
1148
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,000
like I I always had my bills paid
1149
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,333
but it was like just paid like that's it
1150
00:37:39,333 --> 00:37:41,100
like bills were paid
1151
00:37:41,133 --> 00:37:44,050
my private lessons with my coach were covered like
1152
00:37:44,050 --> 00:37:46,800
you know I had money for that and that was it um
1153
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,983
and then I I got into outside sales um
1154
00:37:50,650 --> 00:37:52,250
from like having a background of welding
1155
00:37:52,250 --> 00:37:53,833
and then do also like door knocking
1156
00:37:53,966 --> 00:37:55,683
roof sales and I
1157
00:37:55,683 --> 00:37:57,933
I feel like I could do that job for a long time
1158
00:37:57,933 --> 00:37:58,650
like that I
1159
00:37:58,650 --> 00:38:00,133
that was probably the longest time I've
1160
00:38:00,133 --> 00:38:02,150
stuck doing something it was like two and a half years
1161
00:38:02,166 --> 00:38:03,683
um and it was fun
1162
00:38:03,683 --> 00:38:05,866
it was like aggressive enough for me to like
1163
00:38:06,283 --> 00:38:08,166
go into these businesses and
1164
00:38:08,166 --> 00:38:10,600
and try to swap business and hunt new business
1165
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,966
and you know I
1166
00:38:11,966 --> 00:38:13,116
I move from like more of like a like retaining business
1167
00:38:14,933 --> 00:38:16,566
I moved to like more hunter and that
1168
00:38:16,566 --> 00:38:19,766
that was like definitely a lot of fun for me um
1169
00:38:19,766 --> 00:38:22,600
but definitely not as fun as punch people in the face
1170
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,750
so haha um
1171
00:38:24,450 --> 00:38:26,200
I that was maybe a year ago
1172
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,233
where I walked away from that job and it was like
1173
00:38:28,333 --> 00:38:29,666
it's a good job you know
1174
00:38:30,133 --> 00:38:31,133
it was fine I could do it
1175
00:38:31,133 --> 00:38:32,050
it was like I said
1176
00:38:32,050 --> 00:38:34,566
it was competitive enough for me to stay there
1177
00:38:34,566 --> 00:38:36,850
but like I knew there was more out there for me
1178
00:38:36,850 --> 00:38:38,850
so I kind of walked away from that and just pursued
1179
00:38:38,850 --> 00:38:40,733
like fighting full time um
1180
00:38:40,733 --> 00:38:43,700
and that's where I've been at for the past year or so
1181
00:38:43,883 --> 00:38:45,933
yeah you ever think some of those jobs
1182
00:38:45,933 --> 00:38:48,283
if you can make it you can make it
1183
00:38:48,283 --> 00:38:49,200
make a living doing
1184
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,133
some of the jobs that you've probably already done
1185
00:38:51,133 --> 00:38:54,200
you could probably make a living doing anything yeah
1186
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,483
you know this is America
1187
00:38:55,483 --> 00:38:57,050
I mean there's a lot of opportunity
1188
00:38:57,050 --> 00:38:58,483
for people that are willing to show up
1189
00:38:58,483 --> 00:39:00,483
and think like an owner yeah
1190
00:39:00,483 --> 00:39:01,250
you know yeah
1191
00:39:01,250 --> 00:39:02,783
it was crazy I remember like
1192
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,183
just growing up in sports and practice and like
1193
00:39:07,366 --> 00:39:08,950
growing up getting
1194
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,000
even just showing up on time
1195
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,283
you're like so ahead of the curve right now
1196
00:39:13,283 --> 00:39:14,166
and it was insane like
1197
00:39:14,166 --> 00:39:15,066
I just remember
1198
00:39:15,500 --> 00:39:17,200
I would always show up to work 15 minutes early
1199
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,366
like that was the time like I got here 15 minutes
1200
00:39:19,366 --> 00:39:21,366
like everywhere you go is just 15 minutes early
1201
00:39:21,366 --> 00:39:24,000
and it's like so you're never late
1202
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,600
and just that basic principle was like
1203
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,933
I was better than half the people in
1204
00:39:28,933 --> 00:39:30,883
like the workforce and I was like wow
1205
00:39:30,883 --> 00:39:32,766
this is like low standards man
1206
00:39:32,766 --> 00:39:35,933
I can really shine if I just do the bare minimum
1207
00:39:35,933 --> 00:39:37,050
it was wild you know
1208
00:39:37,050 --> 00:39:40,983
well you don't realize that you're surrounding yourself
1209
00:39:41,083 --> 00:39:42,083
I mean and
1210
00:39:42,083 --> 00:39:43,166
and your whole life
1211
00:39:43,166 --> 00:39:44,866
you've been surrounding yourself with
1212
00:39:44,966 --> 00:39:47,683
extremely disciplined people yeah
1213
00:39:47,683 --> 00:39:49,800
you know you can't just
1214
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,000
you know be a
1215
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,300
a a complete casual uh
1216
00:39:53,333 --> 00:39:55,666
legitimate martial artist right
1217
00:39:56,050 --> 00:39:56,733
you know right
1218
00:39:56,733 --> 00:39:57,133
I mean you
1219
00:39:57,133 --> 00:40:00,666
you really think about it like that's a very unique
1220
00:40:01,966 --> 00:40:04,200
like panel of peers yeah
1221
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,333
you know if you're close
1222
00:40:05,333 --> 00:40:07,000
all your closest people are talking about
1223
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,650
Olympic runners and yeah
1224
00:40:08,650 --> 00:40:10,483
boxers and jiu jitsu guys
1225
00:40:10,483 --> 00:40:11,733
I mean these are
1226
00:40:11,733 --> 00:40:13,466
and these are all people that like
1227
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,966
they identify as their passions right
1228
00:40:17,966 --> 00:40:19,566
their chosen passions right
1229
00:40:19,566 --> 00:40:23,300
and they're they're at the professional level doing
1230
00:40:23,366 --> 00:40:27,933
I think it takes a special level of stubbornness and
1231
00:40:27,933 --> 00:40:32,566
and conviction to make your passion a profession yeah
1232
00:40:32,566 --> 00:40:33,250
you know and really
1233
00:40:33,250 --> 00:40:36,333
I think that's one thing one thing that I've noticed
1234
00:40:36,333 --> 00:40:38,766
a theme that's kind of come up in doing this
1235
00:40:38,766 --> 00:40:39,650
I've had you know
1236
00:40:39,650 --> 00:40:43,033
three music producers on and um
1237
00:40:43,083 --> 00:40:44,866
be a martial artist grapplers
1238
00:40:45,083 --> 00:40:48,250
there's just a stubbornness that comes to saying no
1239
00:40:48,250 --> 00:40:49,766
this is how my life is gonna look
1240
00:40:49,766 --> 00:40:50,650
I'm gonna do these things
1241
00:40:50,650 --> 00:40:51,850
I'm just gonna find a way to do it
1242
00:40:51,850 --> 00:40:53,233
it's a really good point like
1243
00:40:53,250 --> 00:40:55,350
I'm gonna find a way you know
1244
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,883
because it's like the money's out there for that
1245
00:40:58,883 --> 00:41:00,366
whatever you wanna do the money's out there
1246
00:41:00,366 --> 00:41:01,800
you just gotta find it you know
1247
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,533
you don't gotta make it
1248
00:41:02,533 --> 00:41:04,650
you just gotta find it because it's there
1249
00:41:04,650 --> 00:41:07,000
you know what I mean there is there is a way to do it
1250
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:07,800
um
1251
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,966
the way I thought it was
1252
00:41:10,966 --> 00:41:14,283
to do it was not the way for me
1253
00:41:14,283 --> 00:41:16,400
like I thought being getting
1254
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,166
like chasing a world title and getting a world title
1255
00:41:19,166 --> 00:41:22,133
like I thought that would bring all the money for me
1256
00:41:22,133 --> 00:41:23,900
and it was just it's not the
1257
00:41:24,050 --> 00:41:24,600
you know it's
1258
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:25,450
it's it's sales
1259
00:41:25,450 --> 00:41:25,766
like you
1260
00:41:25,766 --> 00:41:28,466
like we were talking about like being a fighter
1261
00:41:28,683 --> 00:41:30,650
you are the you're the product
1262
00:41:30,650 --> 00:41:32,066
but you're also the service
1263
00:41:32,166 --> 00:41:34,733
cause you're the product which is you have as a fighter
1264
00:41:34,733 --> 00:41:36,133
you have to be marketable right
1265
00:41:36,133 --> 00:41:39,083
but then also you have to be the service
1266
00:41:39,083 --> 00:41:41,266
like whenever people come to watch you fight
1267
00:41:41,933 --> 00:41:43,966
they have to have a good time right
1268
00:41:43,966 --> 00:41:44,483
so and
1269
00:41:44,483 --> 00:41:46,583
and that's what the promotion sees
1270
00:41:46,766 --> 00:41:48,533
when they sign you to their promotion
1271
00:41:48,533 --> 00:41:49,683
like okay
1272
00:41:49,683 --> 00:41:52,100
he is a him as a product is marketable
1273
00:41:52,450 --> 00:41:55,050
and him as a service is marketable
1274
00:41:55,050 --> 00:41:57,133
because of what he's brings when he fights
1275
00:41:57,133 --> 00:41:58,333
so I started realizing
1276
00:41:58,333 --> 00:42:01,666
the two things I need to focus on are my marketability
1277
00:42:02,283 --> 00:42:04,066
and my exciting fighting style
1278
00:42:04,483 --> 00:42:07,266
like that's where the money is made as an athlete
1279
00:42:07,450 --> 00:42:09,183
and that's it like
1280
00:42:09,483 --> 00:42:15,200
you could be 5 and 5 and have knocked five people out
1281
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,400
and been knocked out five times
1282
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,566
and you will probably have an incredible job
1283
00:42:18,566 --> 00:42:20,466
at any high level promotion
1284
00:42:20,533 --> 00:42:22,700
if you are bringing people in
1285
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:23,683
that's it like so
1286
00:42:23,683 --> 00:42:25,583
and I realized that and I was like okay
1287
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,083
that's where I needed to put my focus
1288
00:42:28,083 --> 00:42:29,933
and once I really shifted my focus there
1289
00:42:29,933 --> 00:42:32,533
I was like this is so much easier than I thought it was
1290
00:42:32,533 --> 00:42:34,366
yeah this is so much easier
1291
00:42:34,366 --> 00:42:35,783
you know it's crazy
1292
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,150
well I imagine uh
1293
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,900
it's hard to deny how much notoriety uh
1294
00:42:42,050 --> 00:42:44,200
Josh Holkett yeah
1295
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,500
has drummed up in no time at all in the UFC
1296
00:42:47,766 --> 00:42:47,966
yeah
1297
00:42:47,966 --> 00:42:49,916
and then that's the other thing is like you have to
1298
00:42:49,916 --> 00:42:51,683
like people can smell phony yeah
1299
00:42:51,683 --> 00:42:52,883
you know like you have to
1300
00:42:52,883 --> 00:42:54,450
if you care about that which I do
1301
00:42:54,450 --> 00:42:58,450
it's like what you're putting out there to the world
1302
00:42:58,450 --> 00:43:00,333
is what you're putting out there for your kids to see
1303
00:43:00,333 --> 00:43:02,633
one day what you're putting out there forever
1304
00:43:02,683 --> 00:43:03,483
like
1305
00:43:04,133 --> 00:43:05,483
you know there's a different responsibility
1306
00:43:05,483 --> 00:43:07,650
if you're a Christian for what you do
1307
00:43:07,650 --> 00:43:09,166
you know you're a representation of Christ
1308
00:43:09,166 --> 00:43:11,600
so it's like there's a lot of things that
1309
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:12,166
like
1310
00:43:12,166 --> 00:43:15,200
my flesh wants to do to promote fights that I have to
1311
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,000
like
1312
00:43:16,566 --> 00:43:19,166
knock back or get creative on how I can promote fights
1313
00:43:19,166 --> 00:43:20,200
and it's it's really
1314
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,450
it's one of the bigger challenges
1315
00:43:21,450 --> 00:43:23,066
that I've faced in my career
1316
00:43:23,166 --> 00:43:24,766
um not the fighting itself
1317
00:43:24,766 --> 00:43:29,283
it's how to stay true to who I am
1318
00:43:29,283 --> 00:43:30,333
when the lights are on
1319
00:43:30,333 --> 00:43:32,200
and when you wanna go do crazy stuff
1320
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,166
and you wanna call people out and do this and that
1321
00:43:34,166 --> 00:43:34,966
and it's like
1322
00:43:34,966 --> 00:43:38,750
doesn't matter that you're like promoting the fight
1323
00:43:38,883 --> 00:43:40,450
what you're doing is what you're doing
1324
00:43:40,450 --> 00:43:41,733
you know what I mean it doesn't matter
1325
00:43:41,733 --> 00:43:42,600
you know so it's
1326
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:43,650
it's interesting and that it's
1327
00:43:44,533 --> 00:43:46,133
it's a cutthroat game man
1328
00:43:46,133 --> 00:43:47,283
the entertainment it's you know
1329
00:43:47,283 --> 00:43:50,083
the entertainment business is like you're here
1330
00:43:50,083 --> 00:43:53,333
you're the guy for one day now you're not the next day
1331
00:43:53,333 --> 00:43:53,766
you know
1332
00:43:53,766 --> 00:43:59,966
so like finding who you are you know what I mean
1333
00:43:59,966 --> 00:44:02,133
and and and sticking true to who you are
1334
00:44:02,133 --> 00:44:03,583
and no matter what circumstances
1335
00:44:03,883 --> 00:44:05,133
it's been one of my biggest challenges
1336
00:44:05,133 --> 00:44:08,566
I remember talking to the guy
1337
00:44:08,566 --> 00:44:10,250
one of the guys from the company I fight for
1338
00:44:10,250 --> 00:44:11,933
that was like the marketing guy and
1339
00:44:11,933 --> 00:44:14,200
you know he worked with the WWE for a long time
1340
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,683
and he worked with other big organizations in fighting
1341
00:44:16,683 --> 00:44:18,600
like PFL and he was like
1342
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,050
you know
1343
00:44:19,050 --> 00:44:20,283
we're talking about the character and this and this
1344
00:44:20,283 --> 00:44:20,883
and I said hey man
1345
00:44:20,883 --> 00:44:24,000
like I'm just me I'm just gonna be me
1346
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,666
I come from a blue collar background um
1347
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,400
I think a lot of people resonate with that
1348
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,933
because everyone go
1349
00:44:30,933 --> 00:44:32,566
gets up and goes to work the next day
1350
00:44:32,566 --> 00:44:35,033
you know and I've lived that life for so long like
1351
00:44:35,050 --> 00:44:37,183
and he was he was super cool like um
1352
00:44:37,450 --> 00:44:38,133
you know he's like yeah
1353
00:44:38,133 --> 00:44:39,850
let's just be you people can smell phony
1354
00:44:39,850 --> 00:44:43,566
so let's just build you more
1355
00:44:43,566 --> 00:44:44,450
and I was like okay cool
1356
00:44:44,450 --> 00:44:45,550
you know but like
1357
00:44:45,966 --> 00:44:47,133
it's crazy man you
1358
00:44:47,133 --> 00:44:48,250
you talk to some of these guys
1359
00:44:48,250 --> 00:44:49,883
after seeing them on the mic
1360
00:44:49,883 --> 00:44:50,533
you're like dude
1361
00:44:50,533 --> 00:44:51,533
that's not you like
1362
00:44:51,533 --> 00:44:53,450
I bet you Josh Hogan is not like that in
1363
00:44:53,450 --> 00:44:54,650
in person sure
1364
00:44:54,650 --> 00:44:55,766
in real life you know what I mean
1365
00:44:55,766 --> 00:44:59,683
but he jumped from 18 hours professional
1366
00:44:59,683 --> 00:45:01,400
fighting the No. 4 ranked guy
1367
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,433
and then fighting a former title challenger
1368
00:45:04,733 --> 00:45:06,733
on the White House lawn in like
1369
00:45:06,733 --> 00:45:09,400
a year and he might be getting Alex Pereira soon
1370
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,366
that's a scary fight that's crazy
1371
00:45:11,366 --> 00:45:12,733
that's scary that's wild
1372
00:45:12,733 --> 00:45:14,183
that's crazy man
1373
00:45:14,733 --> 00:45:15,683
yeah it
1374
00:45:15,683 --> 00:45:18,050
it's funny cause I don't know
1375
00:45:18,050 --> 00:45:20,733
I don't have any experience in bare knuckle fighting
1376
00:45:20,733 --> 00:45:23,733
I've never I've never even really trained much striking
1377
00:45:23,733 --> 00:45:25,500
but I know that um
1378
00:45:25,966 --> 00:45:27,850
everything changes when you get hit in the face
1379
00:45:27,850 --> 00:45:29,366
yeah and yeah
1380
00:45:29,366 --> 00:45:30,300
it does yeah
1381
00:45:30,533 --> 00:45:35,550
I can't I can't imagine trying to think about your
1382
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,666
your brand your training
1383
00:45:37,683 --> 00:45:40,200
your coaching strategy your opponent
1384
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,466
all that stuff how do you
1385
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,333
how do you feel playful when you're doing all of this
1386
00:45:47,333 --> 00:45:48,300
yeah I
1387
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:49,800
I it's like I
1388
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,333
I tell a lot of the guys that I
1389
00:45:51,333 --> 00:45:52,333
I train with to like
1390
00:45:52,333 --> 00:45:54,500
that's early in their amateur career
1391
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:55,800
um I just say dude
1392
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,233
you just gotta play tag bro
1393
00:45:57,233 --> 00:45:59,166
you have to play tag with this guy's face
1394
00:45:59,166 --> 00:46:01,083
because if you try to think about hitting them in the
1395
00:46:01,083 --> 00:46:03,000
face you're putting more onto it
1396
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:03,733
you're like like
1397
00:46:03,733 --> 00:46:05,683
I remember like the mantras that you tell yourself
1398
00:46:05,683 --> 00:46:06,800
like I was like oh
1399
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,200
my wife's in the other room
1400
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,450
this guy's trying to get to her
1401
00:46:09,450 --> 00:46:11,650
and I'm not gonna let her and all this other stuff
1402
00:46:11,650 --> 00:46:12,766
and it's like it doesn't matter bro
1403
00:46:12,766 --> 00:46:15,266
because whatever you do in practice
1404
00:46:15,483 --> 00:46:16,600
is what you're gonna do in the fight
1405
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,283
so if you have that intention
1406
00:46:18,283 --> 00:46:20,683
like if you have that mindset in practice
1407
00:46:20,683 --> 00:46:22,450
where you're trying to hurt your teammates
1408
00:46:22,450 --> 00:46:24,250
which nobody wants to train with you
1409
00:46:24,250 --> 00:46:25,533
if that's the case right
1410
00:46:25,533 --> 00:46:27,833
right and you're angry and you hate them
1411
00:46:28,566 --> 00:46:30,166
then maybe bring that in the fight
1412
00:46:30,166 --> 00:46:31,900
but if you don't do that in practice
1413
00:46:31,933 --> 00:46:33,800
and you love the guys that you train with
1414
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,583
and you just were trying to beat them in sparring
1415
00:46:36,650 --> 00:46:37,883
then you need to bring that into it
1416
00:46:37,883 --> 00:46:39,366
so a lot of the time I'm like
1417
00:46:39,366 --> 00:46:41,450
overly nice to my opponents
1418
00:46:41,450 --> 00:46:43,600
because I'm trying to create
1419
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:44,166
I mean a
1420
00:46:44,166 --> 00:46:45,650
because it's it's the right thing to do
1421
00:46:45,650 --> 00:46:46,933
and I don't hate these people
1422
00:46:46,933 --> 00:46:49,133
they're making a living the same way I am
1423
00:46:49,133 --> 00:46:51,200
um taking the same risks but like
1424
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,883
I make an effort to go like
1425
00:46:52,883 --> 00:46:55,400
talk to them and be kind to them
1426
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,300
and talk to their opponents
1427
00:46:57,566 --> 00:46:58,800
or talk to my opponents coaches
1428
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,566
because it brings me back to like reality of like
1429
00:47:01,566 --> 00:47:02,733
I don't hate this person
1430
00:47:02,733 --> 00:47:04,166
like I don't dislike this person
1431
00:47:04,166 --> 00:47:05,850
I might not like like how they do things
1432
00:47:05,850 --> 00:47:07,583
but like I don't hate you as a person
1433
00:47:07,650 --> 00:47:09,683
um I just need to hit you in the face
1434
00:47:09,683 --> 00:47:10,800
more than you hit me in the face
1435
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,283
and like I literally say just playing tag
1436
00:47:13,283 --> 00:47:15,083
just playing tag like my coaches will say that'cause it
1437
00:47:15,083 --> 00:47:16,700
it kind of brings me back to
1438
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:18,600
this is just a Monday night at sparring
1439
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:19,766
you don't want to hurt or kill
1440
00:47:19,766 --> 00:47:21,666
or any of this stuff to your teammates
1441
00:47:21,766 --> 00:47:25,583
so if you start mixing in these unnatural feelings
1442
00:47:25,650 --> 00:47:28,083
and emotions that you don't usually perform with
1443
00:47:28,083 --> 00:47:29,450
it's not going to go well right
1444
00:47:29,450 --> 00:47:31,750
so so I keep it playful
1445
00:47:31,750 --> 00:47:33,800
I've just done it the other way where I was like
1446
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,333
way too overly aggressive and it was just not
1447
00:47:36,333 --> 00:47:39,600
not good not good outcomes for me dude
1448
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,700
so I wrestled one year in high school
1449
00:47:41,733 --> 00:47:43,650
my first wrestling match I
1450
00:47:43,650 --> 00:47:46,466
I had been on the wrestling team three days
1451
00:47:46,566 --> 00:47:48,883
I Learned one move I Learned how to sprawl
1452
00:47:48,883 --> 00:47:50,083
and I Learned the headlock takedown
1453
00:47:50,083 --> 00:47:51,166
nice nice
1454
00:47:51,166 --> 00:47:53,266
all I had that's brutal for
1455
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:54,733
that's brutal dude
1456
00:47:54,733 --> 00:47:55,650
well I got a
1457
00:47:55,650 --> 00:47:57,766
I got a brother that's 16 months younger than me
1458
00:47:57,766 --> 00:47:58,933
so it helped that we you know
1459
00:47:58,933 --> 00:48:00,733
we grew up kind of nice beating up on each other
1460
00:48:00,733 --> 00:48:01,983
but uh
1461
00:48:02,050 --> 00:48:03,750
and my my opponent
1462
00:48:03,966 --> 00:48:06,766
my opponent comes out and this kid's like
1463
00:48:06,766 --> 00:48:08,850
6 foot 2 and 145 pounds
1464
00:48:08,850 --> 00:48:11,733
I was wrestling one 60 and I cut like 12 pounds
1465
00:48:11,733 --> 00:48:16,000
Jeez bro so big mash like big mix up size wise
1466
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,300
I was a lot bigger than him even though he was taller
1467
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,750
but he was just a lanky string bean
1468
00:48:20,983 --> 00:48:24,566
and I was ready to run through a brick wall
1469
00:48:24,566 --> 00:48:26,450
I was so hyped with adrenaline
1470
00:48:26,450 --> 00:48:27,850
cause I had no idea what I was doing
1471
00:48:27,850 --> 00:48:29,966
I was just like I'm gonna beat this guy with aggression
1472
00:48:29,966 --> 00:48:32,450
cause that's my only freaking move
1473
00:48:32,450 --> 00:48:34,300
and I go out there I'm like
1474
00:48:34,566 --> 00:48:34,683
ah
1475
00:48:34,683 --> 00:48:39,200
I'm gonna tear this guy apart and I go and I locked up
1476
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,166
I locked up headlock
1477
00:48:40,166 --> 00:48:43,483
take down slammed him squeeze with all of my mind
1478
00:48:43,483 --> 00:48:45,150
I think I busted his nose
1479
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,283
squeezing and pinned him in 16 seconds
1480
00:48:47,283 --> 00:48:49,266
and I was like I like wrestling yeah
1481
00:48:49,683 --> 00:48:51,433
wrestling's fun yeah
1482
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,883
wrestling's so much fun my next match was not like that
1483
00:48:54,883 --> 00:48:57,283
oh shit bro I went against a senior
1484
00:48:57,283 --> 00:48:58,466
yeah and he uh
1485
00:48:58,566 --> 00:49:00,800
he he clowned me and uh
1486
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,683
pinned me in like two rounds and uh yeah
1487
00:49:04,683 --> 00:49:06,933
but but what a debut yeah
1488
00:49:06,933 --> 00:49:09,200
I mean it was so awesome and those things bro
1489
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:10,566
you never forget those bro
1490
00:49:10,566 --> 00:49:13,566
like you that that like at that age too yeah
1491
00:49:13,566 --> 00:49:17,233
that like helps form who you are how you see yourself
1492
00:49:17,366 --> 00:49:18,050
yeah you know what I mean
1493
00:49:18,050 --> 00:49:18,400
like oh
1494
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,083
I was I was in 11th grade man
1495
00:49:20,083 --> 00:49:21,700
I was yeah fifteen
1496
00:49:22,433 --> 00:49:24,100
yeah 15 years old
1497
00:49:24,683 --> 00:49:26,200
knowing that I could take down a bigger guy
1498
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,200
although he was skinny yeah
1499
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,383
super skinny he's taller
1500
00:49:29,450 --> 00:49:32,000
he's taller for the story purposes
1501
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,533
he was a lot bigger that's right
1502
00:49:33,533 --> 00:49:34,650
yeah yeah
1503
00:49:34,650 --> 00:49:36,400
he had to he had to wrestle up and wait
1504
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,400
cause there was nobody in his weight class yeah
1505
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,400
so yeah dude
1506
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,533
but it's just so comical yeah
1507
00:49:41,533 --> 00:49:42,483
you know yeah
1508
00:49:42,483 --> 00:49:43,950
you have to keep it like
1509
00:49:44,366 --> 00:49:45,733
you have to keep it playful man
1510
00:49:45,733 --> 00:49:47,383
I think because uh
1511
00:49:48,850 --> 00:49:49,483
it's just
1512
00:49:49,483 --> 00:49:52,066
there's not enough time in the day to be angry
1513
00:49:52,483 --> 00:49:53,283
you know what I mean
1514
00:49:53,283 --> 00:49:55,950
like at like this guy's just trying to make a living
1515
00:49:55,966 --> 00:49:58,233
yeah the same way you're trying to make a living
1516
00:49:58,333 --> 00:49:59,083
that's it bro
1517
00:49:59,083 --> 00:50:01,000
like it's I always say like
1518
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,450
I'm not fighting this person
1519
00:50:03,450 --> 00:50:04,733
I'm just fighting their style
1520
00:50:04,733 --> 00:50:07,450
like my style is fighting their style and that's it
1521
00:50:07,450 --> 00:50:08,800
how can my style beat this guy's style
1522
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,633
like I'm not really fighting this guy's as a person
1523
00:50:11,733 --> 00:50:13,300
you know so it's
1524
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,200
I think also just being strong in my faith
1525
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,483
and having that moral compass
1526
00:50:18,483 --> 00:50:21,483
has actually really helped improve my performances
1527
00:50:21,483 --> 00:50:22,983
because I don't get into the
1528
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:24,600
to the the
1529
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,333
you know all the back and forth stuff
1530
00:50:26,333 --> 00:50:27,483
I just kind of take myself out of it
1531
00:50:27,483 --> 00:50:29,050
I'm just like yeah bro whatever
1532
00:50:29,050 --> 00:50:30,366
do what you gotta do you know
1533
00:50:30,366 --> 00:50:32,800
like we're gonna fight in six months or six weeks
1534
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,650
whatever like we'll get to it
1535
00:50:34,650 --> 00:50:36,083
you know but the
1536
00:50:36,083 --> 00:50:38,150
the company is always pushing me to
1537
00:50:38,483 --> 00:50:39,566
you know smack the guy
1538
00:50:39,566 --> 00:50:40,800
in the face or do this not yeah
1539
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,166
that specifically but yeah
1540
00:50:43,166 --> 00:50:44,200
you know do all this stuff
1541
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,066
but um
1542
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:46,850
it's it's a fun game though man
1543
00:50:46,850 --> 00:50:48,566
it's a it's a fun game for sure
1544
00:50:48,566 --> 00:50:49,533
do you think that your faith
1545
00:50:49,533 --> 00:50:51,200
has made you more confident
1546
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,766
in becoming a I mean
1547
00:50:52,766 --> 00:50:53,983
a professional fighter
1548
00:50:54,050 --> 00:50:55,250
I think so I
1549
00:50:55,250 --> 00:50:57,700
you know I think being
1550
00:50:58,566 --> 00:50:59,200
you know for
1551
00:50:59,200 --> 00:50:59,800
for many years
1552
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,900
I had my identity wrapped up in being a fighter
1553
00:51:02,933 --> 00:51:06,550
so I think I think my faith just keeps it like this
1554
00:51:06,566 --> 00:51:07,333
there's not you know
1555
00:51:07,333 --> 00:51:08,733
people say that fighting is like
1556
00:51:08,733 --> 00:51:10,583
the highest of highs and the lowest of lows
1557
00:51:10,733 --> 00:51:14,050
um and I think if you're pretty dialed with your faith
1558
00:51:14,050 --> 00:51:16,366
I don't think that's super true
1559
00:51:16,366 --> 00:51:16,566
like
1560
00:51:16,566 --> 00:51:19,400
you can get super upset and you can get super happy
1561
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,933
but you know if
1562
00:51:21,933 --> 00:51:23,166
if none of this matters man
1563
00:51:23,166 --> 00:51:23,800
like that's something
1564
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,800
I was talking to my buddy in the car on the way here
1565
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:26,600
actually about that
1566
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:27,866
like how
1567
00:51:28,050 --> 00:51:30,633
like my identity is not tied to this
1568
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,666
sport in an unhealthy way anymore
1569
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:38,650
so like the the ability to not care as much has
1570
00:51:38,650 --> 00:51:41,200
has 100% helped the trajectory of my career
1571
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,483
and helped me in my performances
1572
00:51:42,483 --> 00:51:44,983
because I'm not training out of fear
1573
00:51:45,283 --> 00:51:47,400
you know I'm not training out of like
1574
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,450
I have to win this fight because if I don't
1575
00:51:49,450 --> 00:51:51,083
who am I as a person it's
1576
00:51:51,083 --> 00:51:52,166
it's really yeah
1577
00:51:52,166 --> 00:51:53,166
I to answer your question
1578
00:51:53,166 --> 00:51:55,850
I definitely think it's helped my performances for sure
1579
00:51:55,850 --> 00:51:56,600
yeah
1580
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:57,983
and imagine your identity too
1581
00:51:57,983 --> 00:52:00,533
I mean that's something that I
1582
00:52:01,466 --> 00:52:03,633
you were talking about how you were in this job
1583
00:52:03,633 --> 00:52:05,300
looking around all these people like dude
1584
00:52:05,300 --> 00:52:06,500
I'm not like these people
1585
00:52:06,500 --> 00:52:08,300
yeah I had that same epiphany
1586
00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:10,166
when I was in an accounting department
1587
00:52:10,266 --> 00:52:11,383
working for the home builder I
1588
00:52:11,383 --> 00:52:13,583
I was a touring musician for four years
1589
00:52:13,583 --> 00:52:15,433
and then I I got this accounting gig
1590
00:52:15,433 --> 00:52:17,633
a headhunter recruited me and I would just
1591
00:52:17,633 --> 00:52:19,066
the band was falling apart
1592
00:52:19,066 --> 00:52:19,866
I needed a gig
1593
00:52:19,866 --> 00:52:22,350
and it was a lot more money than being a musician
1594
00:52:22,350 --> 00:52:23,266
yeah so uh
1595
00:52:23,266 --> 00:52:24,033
I said alright
1596
00:52:24,033 --> 00:52:25,666
whatever if they fire me in six months
1597
00:52:25,666 --> 00:52:26,666
that's good money you know
1598
00:52:26,666 --> 00:52:27,633
yeah so straight up
1599
00:52:27,633 --> 00:52:29,700
I was like but I just
1600
00:52:29,700 --> 00:52:33,133
we just released a record with the old band and um
1601
00:52:33,183 --> 00:52:34,350
I'm all fired up about it
1602
00:52:34,350 --> 00:52:37,100
and I'm like working in this accounting department
1603
00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:38,066
like saying yeah
1604
00:52:38,066 --> 00:52:38,866
by the way you know
1605
00:52:38,866 --> 00:52:40,583
check out this record we just did like
1606
00:52:40,583 --> 00:52:41,983
you know and I realized like
1607
00:52:41,983 --> 00:52:43,900
none of these people have any kind of
1608
00:52:43,900 --> 00:52:45,833
big thing that they're excited about
1609
00:52:45,833 --> 00:52:48,800
yeah and they're all just afraid that
1610
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:51,666
their life might change if they get let go of their job
1611
00:52:51,666 --> 00:52:53,050
and like there was this fear
1612
00:52:53,183 --> 00:52:57,233
dialogue that just didn't resonate with me yeah
1613
00:52:57,233 --> 00:52:58,550
you know and I don't know
1614
00:52:58,550 --> 00:52:59,350
I've been
1615
00:52:59,833 --> 00:53:04,066
I've been dumped and fired and laid off so many times
1616
00:53:04,066 --> 00:53:04,550
that I'm like
1617
00:53:04,550 --> 00:53:07,033
I just don't fear that anymore yeah
1618
00:53:07,033 --> 00:53:07,883
you know like
1619
00:53:08,550 --> 00:53:09,950
yeah I've worked since I was
1620
00:53:09,950 --> 00:53:11,283
I mean 6 years old
1621
00:53:11,350 --> 00:53:13,900
I had a I had an income coming in yeah
1622
00:53:13,900 --> 00:53:15,150
I was like I can do anything
1623
00:53:15,150 --> 00:53:15,950
I'm like ah
1624
00:53:16,466 --> 00:53:17,983
now I'm a I just
1625
00:53:17,983 --> 00:53:19,766
I'm not afraid of that um
1626
00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:22,033
you know the rug being pulled out from under me
1627
00:53:22,033 --> 00:53:25,300
but I just realized like I am not like these people
1628
00:53:25,300 --> 00:53:26,266
yeah you know
1629
00:53:26,266 --> 00:53:27,100
and um
1630
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:30,283
it's freeing that's a freeing feeling yeah
1631
00:53:30,433 --> 00:53:33,000
like I'm not tethered to this job
1632
00:53:33,066 --> 00:53:34,466
yeah or this like
1633
00:53:34,466 --> 00:53:36,500
version of me that works in this job
1634
00:53:36,500 --> 00:53:38,100
like I don't care
1635
00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:39,433
you know like and
1636
00:53:39,433 --> 00:53:42,966
and it's hard for it's hard for me to like
1637
00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:45,300
you know when I think of somebody and I
1638
00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:47,583
and like I see their faces in my head
1639
00:53:47,583 --> 00:53:50,066
you know these people I'm talking about uh
1640
00:53:50,066 --> 00:53:51,500
and in my mind
1641
00:53:51,500 --> 00:53:53,633
they're the same people that they were back then
1642
00:53:53,633 --> 00:53:55,383
but I just got a little glimpse of who they were
1643
00:53:55,383 --> 00:53:56,583
in that moment right
1644
00:53:56,583 --> 00:53:57,750
but we're all on this journey
1645
00:53:57,750 --> 00:53:59,283
and we're constantly changing
1646
00:53:59,500 --> 00:54:00,900
you know so I feel like it's
1647
00:54:00,900 --> 00:54:03,050
it's easy for me to judge
1648
00:54:03,150 --> 00:54:07,283
and assume people haven't grown yeah um
1649
00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:11,183
or want people to grow faster than they
1650
00:54:11,183 --> 00:54:12,466
they want to grow right
1651
00:54:12,466 --> 00:54:15,800
you know and me feel some kind of rub
1652
00:54:15,900 --> 00:54:17,266
you know like wanting to
1653
00:54:17,266 --> 00:54:19,766
you know I'm sure you've had a buddy that you're like
1654
00:54:19,866 --> 00:54:21,866
constantly trying to invite him to stuff or like
1655
00:54:21,866 --> 00:54:22,950
you know step up in some
1656
00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:23,633
area of their life
1657
00:54:23,633 --> 00:54:25,833
and that's just not the season of life that they're in
1658
00:54:25,833 --> 00:54:27,266
yeah like they're not ready
1659
00:54:27,266 --> 00:54:28,766
and you know I think there's
1660
00:54:29,266 --> 00:54:30,950
I so I was talking to one of my best friends about this
1661
00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:32,966
I was like bro I don't have
1662
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:36,666
so I've been out of the gym for 7 weeks now
1663
00:54:36,666 --> 00:54:39,066
and that's like I'll still go to the gym
1664
00:54:39,066 --> 00:54:40,750
but I can't do the classes
1665
00:54:40,750 --> 00:54:41,950
cause I can't hold for partner drills
1666
00:54:41,950 --> 00:54:42,700
I can't hit pads
1667
00:54:42,700 --> 00:54:45,666
I just got cleared to hit the bag eight days ago
1668
00:54:45,666 --> 00:54:47,583
so I'm like hitting the bag light
1669
00:54:47,583 --> 00:54:49,633
but I can't spar like I and I kind of you know
1670
00:54:49,633 --> 00:54:50,700
I live about an hour from the gym
1671
00:54:50,700 --> 00:54:51,800
so I kind of took myself
1672
00:54:52,183 --> 00:54:53,666
out of that environment a little bit
1673
00:54:53,666 --> 00:54:56,666
so I could just do more trail runs
1674
00:54:56,666 --> 00:54:59,266
do more like I'm doing more strength conditioning
1675
00:54:59,266 --> 00:55:00,983
or I'm like working out with friends
1676
00:55:00,983 --> 00:55:02,233
that I never get to work out with
1677
00:55:02,233 --> 00:55:04,850
because I'm always in the same four walls of the gym
1678
00:55:04,866 --> 00:55:06,750
for four hours a night like I'm like yeah
1679
00:55:06,750 --> 00:55:07,950
let me go do your workout with you
1680
00:55:07,950 --> 00:55:09,983
like let's go do meathead workouts and bench a bunch
1681
00:55:09,983 --> 00:55:11,383
and do whatever you know
1682
00:55:11,383 --> 00:55:13,583
like and so I've been kind of doing that more
1683
00:55:13,583 --> 00:55:17,383
and it's been so fun and I was talk you know
1684
00:55:17,383 --> 00:55:18,866
my my agent's calling me like hey man
1685
00:55:18,866 --> 00:55:19,833
you ready to get back to it
1686
00:55:19,833 --> 00:55:20,900
like how you feeling you know
1687
00:55:20,900 --> 00:55:21,950
and I was like yeah
1688
00:55:21,950 --> 00:55:23,466
just whenever my hands healed
1689
00:55:23,466 --> 00:55:24,433
like for the first time
1690
00:55:24,433 --> 00:55:26,633
cause I'm usually like banging his line like yo
1691
00:55:26,633 --> 00:55:27,466
what did they say about this opponent
1692
00:55:27,466 --> 00:55:28,350
what did they say when's the next day
1693
00:55:28,350 --> 00:55:29,783
you know just trying to get after it
1694
00:55:29,783 --> 00:55:30,900
and I I was telling my buddy
1695
00:55:30,900 --> 00:55:31,883
I'm like
1696
00:55:32,783 --> 00:55:36,500
I'm okay with just being here doing this right now
1697
00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:36,900
you know I
1698
00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:38,283
I don't have that unhealthy
1699
00:55:38,466 --> 00:55:40,100
relationship to the sport anymore
1700
00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:40,433
and I
1701
00:55:40,433 --> 00:55:44,966
I was almost envious of some of my friends that just
1702
00:55:45,100 --> 00:55:48,500
they're okay to just wake up and do the same thing
1703
00:55:48,500 --> 00:55:50,866
and they're not super ambitious and they're not um
1704
00:55:50,866 --> 00:55:52,866
like we experience very different things right
1705
00:55:52,866 --> 00:55:54,250
like they've never experienced
1706
00:55:54,866 --> 00:55:56,583
uh knocking somebody out in a packed
1707
00:55:56,583 --> 00:55:58,750
out crowd of 11,000 people
1708
00:55:58,750 --> 00:56:00,833
or they've never they've never like
1709
00:56:00,833 --> 00:56:03,550
they gotta clock in for the rest of their life
1710
00:56:03,550 --> 00:56:05,866
you know and like they have a boss and like
1711
00:56:05,866 --> 00:56:07,433
they've never experienced some of the things
1712
00:56:07,433 --> 00:56:09,033
I've experienced so it's easy for me to say that
1713
00:56:09,033 --> 00:56:12,183
but like they might I
1714
00:56:12,183 --> 00:56:12,866
I don't know I
1715
00:56:12,866 --> 00:56:14,300
I look at some of these people and I go man
1716
00:56:14,300 --> 00:56:18,566
I'm like I almost crave that um
1717
00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:20,400
just like yeah man
1718
00:56:20,466 --> 00:56:21,266
like
1719
00:56:21,466 --> 00:56:24,066
just gonna work and get off and maybe jump on the game
1720
00:56:24,066 --> 00:56:24,350
or like
1721
00:56:24,350 --> 00:56:26,100
I'm gonna go play ultimate Frisbee with my buddy
1722
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:28,100
or like I'm gonna take my girl out to this thing
1723
00:56:28,100 --> 00:56:29,183
and like there's just like
1724
00:56:29,183 --> 00:56:31,866
they're just okay with that thing
1725
00:56:31,866 --> 00:56:32,266
you know
1726
00:56:32,266 --> 00:56:34,866
and and I'm sure if I lived that life I would hate it
1727
00:56:34,866 --> 00:56:36,633
you know but sometimes I'm like man
1728
00:56:36,633 --> 00:56:38,633
I wonder what it would be like to not have that thing
1729
00:56:38,633 --> 00:56:39,866
that you're constantly chasing
1730
00:56:39,866 --> 00:56:41,183
cause it's oops sorry
1731
00:56:41,183 --> 00:56:41,500
it's
1732
00:56:41,500 --> 00:56:44,783
it's a it can be tiresome like it's mentally draining
1733
00:56:44,783 --> 00:56:45,966
I was talking about
1734
00:56:46,383 --> 00:56:48,833
with my buddy on the way here about like burnout
1735
00:56:48,833 --> 00:56:49,766
and like
1736
00:56:50,500 --> 00:56:52,083
sometimes you just wanna like
1737
00:56:52,866 --> 00:56:54,366
sit on the couch and do nothing
1738
00:56:54,466 --> 00:56:55,150
and like that's
1739
00:56:55,150 --> 00:56:56,850
goes against everything that
1740
00:56:56,866 --> 00:56:58,383
we've ever done for the last 10 years
1741
00:56:58,383 --> 00:57:00,350
but like I was telling them in this past couple weeks
1742
00:57:00,350 --> 00:57:02,183
bro like the season I've been in is just like
1743
00:57:02,233 --> 00:57:04,033
I've been just wanted to sit on the couch
1744
00:57:04,033 --> 00:57:05,500
like do my bare minimum workouts
1745
00:57:05,500 --> 00:57:07,183
like keep the body where it needs to be
1746
00:57:07,183 --> 00:57:08,850
do my rehabs this and the third
1747
00:57:09,233 --> 00:57:11,066
and I don't want to put in extra hours in the gym
1748
00:57:11,066 --> 00:57:12,700
I don't want to do the extra runs
1749
00:57:12,700 --> 00:57:13,866
I don't want to do anything extra
1750
00:57:13,866 --> 00:57:15,183
I just want to sit on the couch and watch a
1751
00:57:15,183 --> 00:57:17,550
binge watch a movie or like movie series or whatever
1752
00:57:17,550 --> 00:57:19,566
like it's crazy where
1753
00:57:20,466 --> 00:57:24,266
like performing at this level where it takes your mind
1754
00:57:24,266 --> 00:57:27,350
because sometimes it's like
1755
00:57:27,350 --> 00:57:28,666
who am I thinking this way
1756
00:57:28,666 --> 00:57:29,183
you know what I mean
1757
00:57:29,183 --> 00:57:31,100
like how long can I actually put up with this
1758
00:57:31,100 --> 00:57:33,083
this type of uh
1759
00:57:33,900 --> 00:57:35,033
intensity I guess
1760
00:57:35,033 --> 00:57:35,783
you know like chase
1761
00:57:35,783 --> 00:57:36,183
like what you said
1762
00:57:36,183 --> 00:57:38,550
like chasing that goal or being excited about something
1763
00:57:38,550 --> 00:57:39,066
like for me excitement about something turns into like
1764
00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:44,550
here's a million checklist of what I have to do to be
1765
00:57:44,550 --> 00:57:46,350
successful in that thing you know
1766
00:57:46,350 --> 00:57:47,183
and that kind of yeah
1767
00:57:47,183 --> 00:57:48,650
kind of can drain you sometimes
1768
00:57:49,150 --> 00:57:53,133
yeah I think it's so vital to have some sort of
1769
00:57:54,033 --> 00:57:58,983
avenue for play that is not performance like oriented
1770
00:57:58,983 --> 00:57:59,900
yeah for me
1771
00:57:59,900 --> 00:58:02,483
like I I go skateboarding because there's no
1772
00:58:02,783 --> 00:58:04,383
first of all I go when there's nobody there
1773
00:58:04,383 --> 00:58:06,550
I go at sunrise and um
1774
00:58:06,550 --> 00:58:08,150
and I got all my pads on cause like
1775
00:58:08,150 --> 00:58:09,700
I'm not a great skateboarder
1776
00:58:09,700 --> 00:58:11,900
like my coolest trick is not getting hurt
1777
00:58:11,900 --> 00:58:14,300
it's a good trick and I can't even do that trick
1778
00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:17,150
so like but I can roll around the bowl
1779
00:58:17,150 --> 00:58:18,266
I can roll out of the bowl
1780
00:58:18,266 --> 00:58:19,783
I can get a little bit of air
1781
00:58:19,783 --> 00:58:22,483
you know I can go off the little kicker ramps and like
1782
00:58:22,633 --> 00:58:25,666
you know there's no element to where I'm like no
1783
00:58:25,666 --> 00:58:27,050
I need to get you know
1784
00:58:27,100 --> 00:58:29,166
this many reps or this you know
1785
00:58:29,266 --> 00:58:30,700
I have to land these tricks
1786
00:58:30,700 --> 00:58:33,750
no it's just about having fun and checking out
1787
00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:34,433
and you know
1788
00:58:34,433 --> 00:58:35,666
even in jiu jitsu you know
1789
00:58:35,666 --> 00:58:36,300
I'm like alright
1790
00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:37,183
I wanna be able to
1791
00:58:37,183 --> 00:58:39,683
I wanna hit this submission today somehow right
1792
00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:40,700
like
1793
00:58:41,300 --> 00:58:42,783
you know just we
1794
00:58:42,783 --> 00:58:44,600
we we gamify everything
1795
00:58:44,666 --> 00:58:47,800
and then we start to slowly and silently
1796
00:58:48,550 --> 00:58:52,466
align our identity with this performance right
1797
00:58:52,466 --> 00:58:53,900
you know and it's like no
1798
00:58:53,900 --> 00:58:56,650
you don't need to be evaluated yeah
1799
00:58:56,983 --> 00:58:58,750
yeah it can just be play yeah
1800
00:58:58,750 --> 00:59:00,083
you know and honestly
1801
00:59:00,300 --> 00:59:01,666
you know I'm not gonna lie
1802
00:59:01,666 --> 00:59:05,183
I mean my wife and uh
1803
00:59:05,183 --> 00:59:08,066
all of the struggles that we've had in
1804
00:59:08,066 --> 00:59:09,783
with our going you know
1805
00:59:09,783 --> 00:59:11,783
raising these babies and and postpartum
1806
00:59:11,783 --> 00:59:14,583
like depression and hormone swings and all this stuff
1807
00:59:14,583 --> 00:59:17,566
has been a great catalyst for me to
1808
00:59:18,066 --> 00:59:19,750
lean into this play thing
1809
00:59:19,750 --> 00:59:21,033
yeah and like alright
1810
00:59:21,033 --> 00:59:23,466
I gotta stay grounded and for me
1811
00:59:23,466 --> 00:59:25,200
the secret weapon is play
1812
00:59:25,383 --> 00:59:26,266
you know so like
1813
00:59:26,266 --> 00:59:27,766
when I whenever I'm
1814
00:59:27,833 --> 00:59:31,100
this is cool because I get to bring in whoever I want
1815
00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:31,583
right right
1816
00:59:31,583 --> 00:59:33,183
and as long as they're willing to come in
1817
00:59:33,183 --> 00:59:35,383
which I've been really delighted at how many people say
1818
00:59:35,383 --> 00:59:36,100
yes yeah
1819
00:59:36,100 --> 00:59:38,500
I think nobody's awesome almost nobody is said no
1820
00:59:38,500 --> 00:59:39,466
and I'm like oh cool
1821
00:59:39,466 --> 00:59:41,600
this person's coming in but um
1822
00:59:41,633 --> 00:59:43,833
but I get to learn from them and I get to like
1823
00:59:43,833 --> 00:59:45,300
you know like feed
1824
00:59:45,300 --> 00:59:48,533
it doesn't take me much motivation to feed off
1825
00:59:48,583 --> 00:59:51,033
of somebody else like just a little bit goes a long way
1826
00:59:51,033 --> 00:59:52,333
cause I'm I'm not
1827
00:59:52,433 --> 00:59:53,950
I'm internally motivated right
1828
00:59:53,950 --> 00:59:55,300
but um
1829
00:59:55,300 --> 00:59:59,050
this aspect of play for me has been um
1830
00:59:59,750 --> 01:00:02,383
such a secret weapon and being able to like
1831
01:00:02,383 --> 01:00:04,666
blow off steam in a healthy way yeah
1832
01:00:04,666 --> 01:00:05,183
you know
1833
01:00:05,183 --> 01:00:08,600
I feel like I'm still moving the needle in my soul
1834
01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:09,783
you know yeah
1835
01:00:09,783 --> 01:00:10,583
and um
1836
01:00:11,233 --> 01:00:13,350
I don't know that's I
1837
01:00:13,350 --> 01:00:14,900
I relate a lot to you know
1838
01:00:14,900 --> 01:00:16,250
the musicians uh
1839
01:00:16,583 --> 01:00:18,800
and the producers because they
1840
01:00:19,383 --> 01:00:21,100
like I said there's this stubbornness
1841
01:00:21,100 --> 01:00:22,033
right that comes about like
1842
01:00:22,033 --> 01:00:22,866
no this is
1843
01:00:22,866 --> 01:00:25,900
this is who I am I'm gonna build my life around that
1844
01:00:25,900 --> 01:00:27,100
yeah and uh
1845
01:00:27,100 --> 01:00:28,266
there is so much play
1846
01:00:28,266 --> 01:00:30,266
but also I've noticed music producers and stuff
1847
01:00:30,266 --> 01:00:31,850
I'm asking people like hey
1848
01:00:31,866 --> 01:00:33,900
what do you do outside of music right
1849
01:00:33,900 --> 01:00:38,100
because you can't just be that like yeah
1850
01:00:38,100 --> 01:00:40,100
you still have to be able to unplug and check
1851
01:00:40,100 --> 01:00:41,700
you know and people like to cook
1852
01:00:41,700 --> 01:00:42,900
they like to travel like
1853
01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:45,150
there's all these other kind of human interests that
1854
01:00:45,150 --> 01:00:47,650
you know we can connect over but um
1855
01:00:47,950 --> 01:00:49,750
I always like to see I
1856
01:00:49,750 --> 01:00:52,233
I'm always just curious how people play yeah
1857
01:00:52,233 --> 01:00:54,066
outside of the cause
1858
01:00:54,066 --> 01:00:55,833
cause they're typically high performers
1859
01:00:55,833 --> 01:00:56,950
yeah you know
1860
01:00:56,950 --> 01:00:58,600
I'm not generally
1861
01:00:59,233 --> 01:01:02,100
uh so far everybody I've had in
1862
01:01:02,100 --> 01:01:02,900
you know
1863
01:01:03,433 --> 01:01:05,850
they're all pretty high achieving
1864
01:01:06,100 --> 01:01:08,000
independent minded uh
1865
01:01:08,383 --> 01:01:10,633
people that I find fascinating
1866
01:01:10,633 --> 01:01:12,666
and I don't know it's just kind of cool
1867
01:01:12,666 --> 01:01:14,750
to see all the different flavors come together
1868
01:01:14,750 --> 01:01:15,216
yeah
1869
01:01:15,216 --> 01:01:17,183
I think I'm learning that right now
1870
01:01:17,183 --> 01:01:18,466
what you're talking about with play
1871
01:01:18,466 --> 01:01:20,100
I think I'm learning that right now
1872
01:01:20,100 --> 01:01:22,633
and I don't think I would have um
1873
01:01:22,633 --> 01:01:25,983
I probably wouldn't have Learned that if I didn't lose
1874
01:01:26,066 --> 01:01:28,233
so I lost my last fight split decision
1875
01:01:28,233 --> 01:01:33,150
and I was like almost relieved because I was just like
1876
01:01:33,150 --> 01:01:34,966
I was ranked No. 2 in the world
1877
01:01:35,300 --> 01:01:37,350
if I won that fight I probably would have been in line
1878
01:01:37,350 --> 01:01:38,866
like one more for a title shot
1879
01:01:38,866 --> 01:01:42,633
become a world champion and that was like one of my big
1880
01:01:42,633 --> 01:01:43,983
what still is one of my big goals
1881
01:01:43,983 --> 01:01:47,150
but I got knocked down to No. 4 in the rankings
1882
01:01:47,150 --> 01:01:48,966
and I was just like
1883
01:01:49,900 --> 01:01:50,466
okay like
1884
01:01:50,466 --> 01:01:53,650
I'm not immediately under the microscope for
1885
01:01:53,866 --> 01:01:55,183
a title shot you know
1886
01:01:55,183 --> 01:01:56,466
like every fight is important
1887
01:01:56,466 --> 01:01:59,150
but like the next couple were like super important
1888
01:01:59,150 --> 01:02:03,083
now I've like probably added another fight onto my um
1889
01:02:03,183 --> 01:02:06,083
my road to the title and I just was like
1890
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,950
I've been experimenting with like that play aspect
1891
01:02:08,950 --> 01:02:10,850
because it's like in fighting
1892
01:02:11,350 --> 01:02:12,233
there's a lot of things
1893
01:02:12,233 --> 01:02:14,000
like if you kind of get bored or
1894
01:02:14,300 --> 01:02:16,550
or it starts getting mundane or whatever
1895
01:02:16,550 --> 01:02:18,266
that's where the real growth starts happening
1896
01:02:18,266 --> 01:02:20,466
but you can't live in that for too long
1897
01:02:20,466 --> 01:02:21,966
so like if you're doing MMA
1898
01:02:22,750 --> 01:02:25,350
you could focus on so many aspects of the game
1899
01:02:25,350 --> 01:02:27,233
like I'm just focusing on jiu jitsu
1900
01:02:27,233 --> 01:02:28,783
and even that that's a multi layer
1901
01:02:28,783 --> 01:02:30,266
there's a million things you could focus on
1902
01:02:30,266 --> 01:02:31,333
in jiu jitsu right
1903
01:02:31,350 --> 01:02:33,150
wrestling it could be offensive wrestling
1904
01:02:33,150 --> 01:02:35,333
defensive wrestling chain wrestling and striking
1905
01:02:35,466 --> 01:02:38,066
uh defending striking and wrestling like it's so much
1906
01:02:38,066 --> 01:02:41,533
and then you could so you can switch between striking
1907
01:02:41,983 --> 01:02:44,583
uh Muay Thai boxing kickboxing
1908
01:02:44,583 --> 01:02:47,450
jiu jitsu wrestling MMA as a whole wall work
1909
01:02:47,550 --> 01:02:49,750
defensive subs sweeps you
1910
01:02:49,750 --> 01:02:51,500
can kind of change it up all the time
1911
01:02:51,500 --> 01:02:52,600
and now with boxing
1912
01:02:53,150 --> 01:02:55,150
like my wings are a little bit clipped
1913
01:02:55,150 --> 01:02:58,500
to where I can just focus on different footworks
1914
01:02:58,500 --> 01:02:59,466
or different defenses
1915
01:02:59,466 --> 01:03:02,266
or how I throw different punches or whatever
1916
01:03:02,266 --> 01:03:03,566
so um
1917
01:03:03,866 --> 01:03:07,066
I've been like craving that like play
1918
01:03:07,066 --> 01:03:07,783
like what like
1919
01:03:07,783 --> 01:03:10,333
the thing that I've been most excited for in the past
1920
01:03:11,666 --> 01:03:12,983
eight weeks has been going to play
1921
01:03:12,983 --> 01:03:14,433
ultimate Frisbee with all my friends
1922
01:03:14,433 --> 01:03:15,750
cause I haven't played in like 10 years
1923
01:03:15,750 --> 01:03:18,783
and it's been so fun cause I don't care like it's yes
1924
01:03:18,783 --> 01:03:19,750
performance based obviously
1925
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:22,583
but like it's not like I'm a paychecks on the line
1926
01:03:22,583 --> 01:03:23,383
if I make a touchdown
1927
01:03:23,383 --> 01:03:25,550
you're not gonna be bummed if you miss the throw
1928
01:03:25,550 --> 01:03:27,033
and nobody's gonna be let down
1929
01:03:27,033 --> 01:03:27,700
no right
1930
01:03:27,700 --> 01:03:28,833
no and it's been so fun
1931
01:03:28,833 --> 01:03:30,500
I've been more excited for that
1932
01:03:30,500 --> 01:03:32,300
yeah and this is like all new for me
1933
01:03:32,300 --> 01:03:34,033
like this is new in the last two months
1934
01:03:34,033 --> 01:03:35,733
so I've been more excited for that
1935
01:03:36,183 --> 01:03:37,866
then even going back to practice
1936
01:03:37,866 --> 01:03:38,900
yeah'cause it's there's no
1937
01:03:38,900 --> 01:03:40,500
there's no crazy pressure and stress
1938
01:03:40,500 --> 01:03:42,833
so like the play aspect is something that I like
1939
01:03:42,833 --> 01:03:44,983
have to like really look at my
1940
01:03:44,983 --> 01:03:45,700
my life and go
1941
01:03:45,700 --> 01:03:48,383
how much how much am I really putting into this
1942
01:03:48,383 --> 01:03:49,033
you know yeah
1943
01:03:49,033 --> 01:03:50,300
because I don't think there's a lot of time
1944
01:03:50,300 --> 01:03:51,966
if you're working a full time job
1945
01:03:52,066 --> 01:03:53,766
and you're training full time
1946
01:03:53,866 --> 01:03:55,033
I don't think there's a lot of time
1947
01:03:55,033 --> 01:03:56,066
for play you know
1948
01:03:56,066 --> 01:03:58,733
you're clocking 40 hours a week at the job
1949
01:03:59,750 --> 01:04:01,983
and then you're getting your training in also
1950
01:04:01,983 --> 01:04:03,233
you know my days would look like
1951
01:04:03,233 --> 01:04:05,900
7:30 in the morning to 9:30 at night
1952
01:04:05,900 --> 01:04:07,800
every night and I was like
1953
01:04:08,150 --> 01:04:09,300
not a lot of time for play
1954
01:04:09,300 --> 01:04:10,183
you know so now
1955
01:04:10,183 --> 01:04:12,233
now that that's not my reality anymore
1956
01:04:12,233 --> 01:04:14,300
that I need to like find something
1957
01:04:14,300 --> 01:04:15,383
you know yeah
1958
01:04:15,383 --> 01:04:16,750
well I mean
1959
01:04:16,750 --> 01:04:17,550
obviously
1960
01:04:17,550 --> 01:04:21,266
anybody that's super discipline or like a high
1961
01:04:21,266 --> 01:04:24,733
high achiever they think like there's an inter
1962
01:04:24,750 --> 01:04:27,900
internal voice that's probably pretty harsh says
1963
01:04:27,900 --> 01:04:29,750
you gotta be doing more you gotta be hustling
1964
01:04:29,750 --> 01:04:31,500
you can't take a day off you kidding me
1965
01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:33,633
like your opponent is not taking a day off
1966
01:04:33,633 --> 01:04:34,433
yeah you know
1967
01:04:34,466 --> 01:04:35,333
and um
1968
01:04:35,983 --> 01:04:39,183
I don't know I have been experimenting now
1969
01:04:39,183 --> 01:04:40,366
you know hey if
1970
01:04:40,466 --> 01:04:41,266
if uh
1971
01:04:41,950 --> 01:04:43,383
Michael Jordan you know
1972
01:04:43,383 --> 01:04:46,150
and George ST Pierre they can have sports psychologist
1973
01:04:46,150 --> 01:04:47,583
like maybe there's something to like
1974
01:04:47,583 --> 01:04:49,033
getting your head right in the game
1975
01:04:49,033 --> 01:04:50,100
and figuring out
1976
01:04:50,100 --> 01:04:52,100
what the most important thing really is
1977
01:04:52,100 --> 01:04:54,750
yeah Jesus has been a big part of that in my life
1978
01:04:54,750 --> 01:04:55,550
no doubt
1979
01:04:56,183 --> 01:04:57,666
uh I plug this book all the time
1980
01:04:57,666 --> 01:05:00,266
The Ruthless Elimination of hurry hmm
1981
01:05:00,266 --> 01:05:01,866
um by Comer
1982
01:05:01,866 --> 01:05:05,083
you gotta check that out but like this concept of uh
1983
01:05:05,533 --> 01:05:09,233
of why am I rushing through life yeah
1984
01:05:09,233 --> 01:05:11,783
you know on all these different facets and just
1985
01:05:11,783 --> 01:05:13,583
you know why can't I just take a break
1986
01:05:13,583 --> 01:05:14,600
oh I can
1987
01:05:14,633 --> 01:05:17,500
I can just I can just have a complete day off
1988
01:05:17,500 --> 01:05:21,100
have a Sabbath where I'm not focused on performance
1989
01:05:21,100 --> 01:05:22,666
I'm not focused on moving the needle
1990
01:05:22,666 --> 01:05:24,466
I'm not focused on making money yeah
1991
01:05:24,466 --> 01:05:27,966
um I can just be and it's a good thing
1992
01:05:28,150 --> 01:05:29,700
you know um
1993
01:05:29,700 --> 01:05:31,450
goes against everything that
1994
01:05:32,866 --> 01:05:34,033
for years and years and years
1995
01:05:34,033 --> 01:05:34,950
if you're a high performer
1996
01:05:34,950 --> 01:05:36,283
it goes against everything
1997
01:05:36,550 --> 01:05:38,633
it makes it almost makes your skin crawl yeah
1998
01:05:38,633 --> 01:05:39,466
it almost like oh my god
1999
01:05:39,466 --> 01:05:40,550
I don't want to lose my edge
2000
01:05:40,550 --> 01:05:41,950
like I've yeah I've built it
2001
01:05:41,950 --> 01:05:46,283
I've built this empire of whatever this way
2002
01:05:46,383 --> 01:05:47,150
I don't want to switch it
2003
01:05:47,150 --> 01:05:48,300
you know what I mean so it's yeah
2004
01:05:48,300 --> 01:05:50,350
it's interesting I have to check that book out
2005
01:05:50,350 --> 01:05:51,883
I definitely have to check that book out
2006
01:05:51,950 --> 01:05:53,383
it's it's just a like
2007
01:05:53,583 --> 01:05:56,833
if you get too interwoven in this idea of oh go
2008
01:05:56,833 --> 01:05:57,183
go go
2009
01:05:57,183 --> 01:05:57,550
go go
2010
01:05:57,550 --> 01:06:01,233
I feel like I'm gonna look up and just be 80 years old
2011
01:06:01,233 --> 01:06:01,783
going going
2012
01:06:01,783 --> 01:06:02,183
going
2013
01:06:02,183 --> 01:06:04,783
like I had a conversation with my buddy and I was like
2014
01:06:04,783 --> 01:06:05,650
man I think
2015
01:06:06,183 --> 01:06:08,183
you know a lot of humans
2016
01:06:08,183 --> 01:06:11,800
I think that they are just distracting themselves from
2017
01:06:11,983 --> 01:06:13,350
the fact that they're gonna die one day
2018
01:06:13,350 --> 01:06:15,133
like this is a big hamster wheel
2019
01:06:15,183 --> 01:06:16,866
and we are just distracting ourselves
2020
01:06:16,866 --> 01:06:19,066
from the fact that we're gonna die
2021
01:06:19,066 --> 01:06:22,850
and it's funny because a lot of other cultures
2022
01:06:23,383 --> 01:06:26,983
it's the opposite like not really in this culture
2023
01:06:26,983 --> 01:06:28,183
but like in a lot of other cultures
2024
01:06:28,183 --> 01:06:30,750
like the very first depiction of like
2025
01:06:30,750 --> 01:06:33,783
a human skull comes from these group of monks
2026
01:06:33,783 --> 01:06:35,150
and now this is what we were talking about today
2027
01:06:35,150 --> 01:06:37,583
have you heard this this analogy actually
2028
01:06:37,583 --> 01:06:40,650
Kumar talks about having a skull on his desk skull bro
2029
01:06:40,750 --> 01:06:43,133
that's crazy bro it's so cool and it's like
2030
01:06:43,233 --> 01:06:44,033
you know what I don't know
2031
01:06:44,033 --> 01:06:45,383
I think it said like I might butcher it
2032
01:06:45,383 --> 01:06:46,550
but it's like where you are
2033
01:06:46,550 --> 01:06:48,100
I once was and where I am
2034
01:06:48,100 --> 01:06:50,266
you soon will be something something along those lines
2035
01:06:50,266 --> 01:06:51,750
right and it's like yeah
2036
01:06:51,750 --> 01:06:54,066
it's that's probably what I am referencing
2037
01:06:54,066 --> 01:06:56,200
that's crazy man and it's um
2038
01:06:57,433 --> 01:06:59,250
yeah what was that one book that I was reading
2039
01:06:59,383 --> 01:07:02,350
um I might have been from the same guy honestly
2040
01:07:02,350 --> 01:07:03,350
if that's the same story
2041
01:07:03,350 --> 01:07:05,683
but it was it didn't it was not that book but anyways
2042
01:07:05,866 --> 01:07:09,500
like all of that that shifting of perspective of like
2043
01:07:09,500 --> 01:07:11,050
yeah you are gonna die one day
2044
01:07:11,433 --> 01:07:12,433
kind of embracing that
2045
01:07:12,433 --> 01:07:14,150
instead of just getting on the hamster wheel of like
2046
01:07:14,150 --> 01:07:15,466
distractions yeah
2047
01:07:15,466 --> 01:07:17,933
it's easy to distract yourself
2048
01:07:17,950 --> 01:07:19,600
you know it's like
2049
01:07:20,066 --> 01:07:22,983
and sometimes I think you know that you're doing it
2050
01:07:22,983 --> 01:07:25,183
you know and you know it's not good for you
2051
01:07:25,183 --> 01:07:28,383
it's like being a drug addict like you know
2052
01:07:28,383 --> 01:07:30,200
this is not good for me but it's
2053
01:07:30,233 --> 01:07:33,183
the detox process is a lot harder to like
2054
01:07:33,183 --> 01:07:34,633
pull yourself out of that reality
2055
01:07:34,633 --> 01:07:36,766
and really take an inventory of your life
2056
01:07:36,950 --> 01:07:38,650
so I think a lot of people are just like
2057
01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:39,633
screw it bro
2058
01:07:39,633 --> 01:07:42,383
I'm just gonna keep on this mindset yeah
2059
01:07:42,383 --> 01:07:44,033
snooze yeah
2060
01:07:44,033 --> 01:07:44,733
straight up
2061
01:07:44,733 --> 01:07:47,750
it reminded me too of like the recent interviews with
2062
01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:50,350
uh Max Holloway talking about how much he was sparring
2063
01:07:50,350 --> 01:07:52,183
you know he's not sparring at all right
2064
01:07:52,183 --> 01:07:53,433
he's like I'm surfing more
2065
01:07:53,433 --> 01:07:56,233
he's like I've been doing this for whatever 20 years
2066
01:07:56,233 --> 01:07:57,833
I know what I need to be doing
2067
01:07:57,833 --> 01:07:59,900
and he had you know
2068
01:07:59,900 --> 01:08:01,800
great per great performance
2069
01:08:01,866 --> 01:08:03,883
uh this was after Olivera right
2070
01:08:03,900 --> 01:08:05,533
who do you fight after Olivera
2071
01:08:06,350 --> 01:08:08,050
um geichie
2072
01:08:08,100 --> 01:08:09,283
where he knocked him out oh
2073
01:08:09,350 --> 01:08:10,900
in the last second of that after yeah
2074
01:08:10,900 --> 01:08:12,933
that was I think so yeah
2075
01:08:13,250 --> 01:08:13,983
yeah so that
2076
01:08:13,983 --> 01:08:15,866
that that inspires me too
2077
01:08:15,866 --> 01:08:18,550
cause just we don't know how much there is to gain
2078
01:08:18,550 --> 01:08:20,383
by getting our head right yeah
2079
01:08:20,383 --> 01:08:21,400
you know um
2080
01:08:21,433 --> 01:08:23,650
versus just piling on more abuse
2081
01:08:23,833 --> 01:08:24,633
you know yeah
2082
01:08:24,700 --> 01:08:26,183
it's so funny that you're saying that man
2083
01:08:26,183 --> 01:08:26,633
that was like
2084
01:08:26,633 --> 01:08:30,950
the biggest breakthrough in my career was like
2085
01:08:30,950 --> 01:08:31,700
realize like I
2086
01:08:31,700 --> 01:08:33,750
I was the first person in the gym
2087
01:08:33,750 --> 01:08:35,450
I was the last person to leave
2088
01:08:35,466 --> 01:08:38,466
my schedule was freak like you would think I'm a freak
2089
01:08:38,466 --> 01:08:39,433
bro like my calendar
2090
01:08:39,433 --> 01:08:41,550
like it was for MMA right
2091
01:08:41,550 --> 01:08:42,150
it had it was
2092
01:08:42,150 --> 01:08:45,866
every single second of my day was just so scheduled
2093
01:08:45,866 --> 01:08:47,450
like little things like
2094
01:08:48,233 --> 01:08:49,350
like like
2095
01:08:49,350 --> 01:08:51,700
I had a couple times where I was in an MMA fight
2096
01:08:51,700 --> 01:08:53,500
and I had a choke and I had my arms gas out
2097
01:08:53,500 --> 01:08:54,900
so like I put it in my calendar
2098
01:08:54,900 --> 01:08:56,433
like I would do these squeezes on
2099
01:08:56,433 --> 01:08:58,233
these foam roller squeezes and do this
2100
01:08:58,233 --> 01:08:59,950
and with my legs and like everything
2101
01:08:59,950 --> 01:09:00,833
and I was working an office job
2102
01:09:00,833 --> 01:09:02,966
so I literally did the bare minimum on the office job
2103
01:09:03,150 --> 01:09:05,833
filled it with everything like visualization
2104
01:09:05,833 --> 01:09:08,183
whimhoff breathing like everything
2105
01:09:08,183 --> 01:09:11,083
and when I stopped doing all of that
2106
01:09:11,700 --> 01:09:14,950
I my performance skyrocketed and it was insane
2107
01:09:14,950 --> 01:09:17,033
and I was just like in my head
2108
01:09:17,033 --> 01:09:18,383
I have to do more more more more
2109
01:09:18,383 --> 01:09:18,950
more more
2110
01:09:18,950 --> 01:09:21,266
and there was just like it was awesome
2111
01:09:21,266 --> 01:09:22,866
because I built something that was really
2112
01:09:22,866 --> 01:09:26,500
really really good and firm and and solid
2113
01:09:26,500 --> 01:09:28,650
and it was like my my game was solid
2114
01:09:28,883 --> 01:09:32,066
and here's a here's me and here's the game that I built
2115
01:09:32,066 --> 01:09:33,166
and there's no bridge
2116
01:09:33,183 --> 01:09:34,983
like I was like I couldn't access that
2117
01:09:34,983 --> 01:09:36,500
so I was just like dude I need to access
2118
01:09:36,500 --> 01:09:38,983
I need to put some time into like the bridge
2119
01:09:38,983 --> 01:09:41,250
cause my performances were nothing like practice
2120
01:09:41,383 --> 01:09:42,266
and I had a I had a like separation
2121
01:09:44,950 --> 01:09:47,550
like I didn't I wasn't in control of myself
2122
01:09:47,550 --> 01:09:48,750
when I was in competition
2123
01:09:48,750 --> 01:09:50,783
so like I was like I need to focus on this
2124
01:09:50,783 --> 01:09:53,183
and that's pretty much what I what I did
2125
01:09:53,183 --> 01:09:54,433
like you talked about a mind coach
2126
01:09:54,433 --> 01:09:57,366
like I listen to every single
2127
01:09:58,150 --> 01:10:00,000
podcast that I could about
2128
01:10:00,300 --> 01:10:01,900
mental preparation and performance
2129
01:10:01,900 --> 01:10:03,866
and read every book that I could about
2130
01:10:03,866 --> 01:10:05,766
like the greats um
2131
01:10:06,100 --> 01:10:06,933
like
2132
01:10:07,466 --> 01:10:09,166
what's that one book called um
2133
01:10:10,583 --> 01:10:13,400
it talks about being a cleaner versus um
2134
01:10:14,500 --> 01:10:18,300
it's by like LeBron James basketball coach Tim Grover
2135
01:10:18,300 --> 01:10:20,183
um it was just a
2136
01:10:20,183 --> 01:10:22,233
it was it was incredible book anyways
2137
01:10:22,233 --> 01:10:24,150
but like I read all these books about like
2138
01:10:24,150 --> 01:10:25,950
like knowing oneself or
2139
01:10:25,950 --> 01:10:28,500
or our mindset of high performers
2140
01:10:28,500 --> 01:10:30,350
and like through that process of like
2141
01:10:30,350 --> 01:10:33,333
really learning about that kind of thing
2142
01:10:34,383 --> 01:10:35,750
my performance skyrocketed
2143
01:10:35,750 --> 01:10:36,733
and it was obviously
2144
01:10:36,866 --> 01:10:39,233
accumulation of learning about that stuff
2145
01:10:39,233 --> 01:10:40,983
and then also building this
2146
01:10:40,983 --> 01:10:42,050
but like
2147
01:10:43,033 --> 01:10:45,566
there's so much to be said about
2148
01:10:46,033 --> 01:10:47,233
just doing it the right way
2149
01:10:47,233 --> 01:10:49,100
and not just doing more of it yeah
2150
01:10:49,100 --> 01:10:53,933
you know like if you just slap on three plates of
2151
01:10:54,700 --> 01:10:56,433
of some weight you can probably get it up
2152
01:10:56,433 --> 01:10:57,150
but like
2153
01:10:57,150 --> 01:10:59,333
you can probably get way more up if you just did the
2154
01:10:59,500 --> 01:11:00,866
spent more time on just like the
2155
01:11:00,866 --> 01:11:01,866
the form and the technique
2156
01:11:01,866 --> 01:11:04,800
and I feel like I had to do that with my career of like
2157
01:11:04,983 --> 01:11:06,633
figure out what's going on in your head
2158
01:11:06,633 --> 01:11:08,200
you know that's way harder than
2159
01:11:08,433 --> 01:11:10,850
it's easier to spend an extra 45 minutes in the gym
2160
01:11:10,866 --> 01:11:11,750
yeah you know
2161
01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:13,583
like it's it's insane
2162
01:11:13,583 --> 01:11:15,550
that's constant little adjustments man
2163
01:11:15,550 --> 01:11:16,150
yeah
2164
01:11:16,150 --> 01:11:17,100
I read a book uh
2165
01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:18,233
called thank you for being late
2166
01:11:18,233 --> 01:11:19,983
it was talking about how all of the world's
2167
01:11:19,983 --> 01:11:21,333
technological innovations
2168
01:11:22,383 --> 01:11:25,133
typically came as a result of some sort of interruption
2169
01:11:25,283 --> 01:11:28,583
and somebody had unexpected white space to ponder
2170
01:11:28,583 --> 01:11:32,400
something interesting and as you know
2171
01:11:32,700 --> 01:11:35,883
I used to identify as a full time songwriter
2172
01:11:35,983 --> 01:11:39,383
and I would never shame myself by taking like
2173
01:11:39,383 --> 01:11:41,350
the weekend off to go look for inspiration
2174
01:11:41,350 --> 01:11:42,500
and go write hmm
2175
01:11:42,500 --> 01:11:45,900
you know but I had time for white space
2176
01:11:45,900 --> 01:11:47,500
where there's just nothing on my calendar
2177
01:11:47,500 --> 01:11:49,050
I could just think and be
2178
01:11:49,066 --> 01:11:51,000
and that's where your greatest
2179
01:11:51,233 --> 01:11:53,100
revelations and epiphanies come from
2180
01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:55,750
that's where the wisdom is kind of solidified
2181
01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:57,383
the internal wisdom it's interesting
2182
01:11:57,383 --> 01:11:58,300
and you know
2183
01:11:58,300 --> 01:11:59,583
I I challenge you man
2184
01:11:59,583 --> 01:12:01,233
if if there's anything I could challenge John
2185
01:12:01,233 --> 01:12:01,950
be like hey
2186
01:12:01,950 --> 01:12:04,483
try to do less yeah
2187
01:12:04,950 --> 01:12:06,750
yeah try or just make space
2188
01:12:06,750 --> 01:12:08,950
cause your most special
2189
01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:13,700
valuable piece of your whole entity is your critical
2190
01:12:13,700 --> 01:12:16,433
problem solving creative abilities right
2191
01:12:16,433 --> 01:12:19,333
right and when every 15 second
2192
01:12:19,383 --> 01:12:23,083
15 minute interval is crammed with stuff
2193
01:12:23,183 --> 01:12:26,433
there's no space to just kind of be yeah
2194
01:12:26,433 --> 01:12:28,400
and ponder and uh
2195
01:12:28,433 --> 01:12:29,500
I don't know I'm always trying
2196
01:12:29,500 --> 01:12:32,350
you know we're all trying to life hack or whatever yeah
2197
01:12:32,350 --> 01:12:34,066
max out everything that we can
2198
01:12:34,066 --> 01:12:35,050
you know yeah dude
2199
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:39,683
um a part of that is like do less and like enjoy it
2200
01:12:39,833 --> 01:12:42,500
it almost stresses me out like to have a cat
2201
01:12:42,500 --> 01:12:43,183
like if I I
2202
01:12:43,183 --> 01:12:44,950
so I have like obviously my calendar on my wall
2203
01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:46,700
and then I have on my phone
2204
01:12:46,700 --> 01:12:47,900
and I have it in my notes app
2205
01:12:47,900 --> 01:12:51,283
and I just have Monday through Sunday and every day
2206
01:12:51,550 --> 01:12:52,866
if I don't have something on there
2207
01:12:52,866 --> 01:12:55,066
I'm almost like subconsciously like
2208
01:12:55,066 --> 01:12:56,583
alright I need to fill this with something like
2209
01:12:56,583 --> 01:12:57,500
what is something that I've been like
2210
01:12:57,500 --> 01:12:58,700
putting off that I could put
2211
01:12:58,700 --> 01:12:59,500
I'll put that on that day
2212
01:12:59,500 --> 01:12:59,950
OK cool
2213
01:12:59,950 --> 01:13:00,150
and like
2214
01:13:00,150 --> 01:13:01,383
and the next thing you know I look at my calendar
2215
01:13:01,383 --> 01:13:02,633
I'm like oh
2216
01:13:02,633 --> 01:13:04,033
my week's full like yeah
2217
01:13:04,033 --> 01:13:04,550
you know what I mean
2218
01:13:04,550 --> 01:13:07,600
like it's it's slapped full of stuff so it's like
2219
01:13:08,900 --> 01:13:10,583
there's there's there's gotta be something to that
2220
01:13:10,583 --> 01:13:10,833
you know well
2221
01:13:10,833 --> 01:13:12,700
I know some CEOs that will
2222
01:13:12,700 --> 01:13:14,983
they'll just book an appointment on their calendar
2223
01:13:14,983 --> 01:13:16,500
for white space every day
2224
01:13:16,500 --> 01:13:18,433
wow so just carve it out and then no
2225
01:13:18,433 --> 01:13:20,033
it won't get booked it won't get filled right
2226
01:13:20,033 --> 01:13:22,700
yeah that's a good that's a really good point yeah
2227
01:13:22,700 --> 01:13:24,233
that's crazy did uh
2228
01:13:24,233 --> 01:13:26,200
so nothing yet booked no
2229
01:13:26,383 --> 01:13:26,983
no you heal up
2230
01:13:26,983 --> 01:13:27,900
you gotta heal up first yeah
2231
01:13:27,900 --> 01:13:30,600
yeah gotta heal up um I got a call
2232
01:13:31,983 --> 01:13:34,350
like a week ago about some
2233
01:13:34,350 --> 01:13:36,583
a really big opportunity and he was like
2234
01:13:36,583 --> 01:13:38,100
my agent was like how's your hand doing
2235
01:13:38,100 --> 01:13:39,900
pretty good I got some news for you and I was like
2236
01:13:39,900 --> 01:13:41,100
oh shoot let's go
2237
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:41,950
what what's the news
2238
01:13:41,950 --> 01:13:43,933
and it's in January um
2239
01:13:44,266 --> 01:13:45,466
nothing signed yet
2240
01:13:45,466 --> 01:13:48,066
we're kind of like starting the process of like
2241
01:13:48,066 --> 01:13:49,150
contract negotiation
2242
01:13:49,150 --> 01:13:50,433
finding the opponents and all this stuff
2243
01:13:50,433 --> 01:13:51,933
but I think it's gonna be really cool
2244
01:13:51,983 --> 01:13:54,966
um definitely be a big fight um
2245
01:13:56,866 --> 01:13:59,066
when's this gonna air um
2246
01:13:59,066 --> 01:14:00,433
probably not for another eight
2247
01:14:00,433 --> 01:14:01,300
10 weeks oh
2248
01:14:01,300 --> 01:14:02,300
eight or 10 weeks okay cool
2249
01:14:02,300 --> 01:14:04,050
yeah so I think um
2250
01:14:04,150 --> 01:14:05,900
I keep it here also actually
2251
01:14:05,900 --> 01:14:07,300
you know what I'll just tell you off the camera
2252
01:14:07,300 --> 01:14:08,150
cause I don't wanna get in trouble
2253
01:14:08,150 --> 01:14:10,533
but yeah it's a super cool opportunity um
2254
01:14:10,583 --> 01:14:12,433
and it'll be in January so nice
2255
01:14:12,433 --> 01:14:13,283
I'm like
2256
01:14:13,950 --> 01:14:15,950
I'm looking at getting some uh
2257
01:14:15,950 --> 01:14:18,566
this thing called a bone stimulator that like
2258
01:14:18,583 --> 01:14:20,883
it helps a fracture heal a little bit faster
2259
01:14:20,983 --> 01:14:22,433
um luckily I'm
2260
01:14:22,433 --> 01:14:23,500
I'm just like I was saying
2261
01:14:23,500 --> 01:14:26,083
I'm partnered with some of the best people um
2262
01:14:26,300 --> 01:14:28,666
like I'm getting PRP shots and
2263
01:14:28,666 --> 01:14:29,583
and and helping
2264
01:14:29,583 --> 01:14:30,700
helping the hand grow
2265
01:14:30,700 --> 01:14:32,666
and in the joints in the hand strengthen up
2266
01:14:32,666 --> 01:14:32,833
like
2267
01:14:32,833 --> 01:14:35,266
Barbara Orthopedics is always hooking me up with like
2268
01:14:35,266 --> 01:14:36,750
the top level care um
2269
01:14:36,750 --> 01:14:38,583
so I'm gonna be back in the ring
2270
01:14:38,583 --> 01:14:40,033
a lot quicker than I thought
2271
01:14:40,033 --> 01:14:41,066
um nice
2272
01:14:41,066 --> 01:14:42,300
but January should be the
2273
01:14:42,300 --> 01:14:43,783
the next one well
2274
01:14:43,783 --> 01:14:45,683
I can't wait to see what comes dude
2275
01:14:46,300 --> 01:14:48,266
Nathan Rivera thanks for doing this dude
2276
01:14:48,266 --> 01:14:49,466
thanks for having me thanks for coming
2277
01:14:49,466 --> 01:14:50,383
it's been a blast bro
2278
01:14:50,383 --> 01:14:52,266
I'm super proud of you thank you brother
2279
01:14:52,266 --> 01:14:55,183
I can't wait to see what happens and follow you
2280
01:14:55,183 --> 01:14:56,950
follow you along your crazy journey
2281
01:14:56,950 --> 01:14:58,266
yeah it's crazy to me
2282
01:14:58,266 --> 01:15:01,333
you're freaking bare knuckle boxer um
2283
01:15:01,433 --> 01:15:03,866
but I'm fascinated I'm inspired dude
2284
01:15:03,866 --> 01:15:04,833
thank you so much man
2285
01:15:04,833 --> 01:15:05,633
absolutely thank you bro
2286
01:15:05,633 --> 01:15:06,350
God bless you brother
2287
01:15:06,350 --> 01:15:06,950
absolutely bro
2288
01:15:06,950 --> 01:15:07,500
thank you dog
2289
01:15:07,500 --> 01:15:08,333
thanks man
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