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We are going to now get into discussing the upcoming season,
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which is titled Vampires vs. Zombies. This dropped October 6th
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of 2026. You can probably figure it out, folks. We're
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going to be focusing on the Horde cards, well, Horde-related cards,
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I should say, and also cards that will steal the
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power from enemies.
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Um... All right.
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So we're going to start it out with Vampire Killmonger
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2 cost 2 power. This is our season pass card.
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At the end of the turn, if you have spent
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all your energy, you get a Vampiric Spear. The Vampiric
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Spear is a 1 cost skill card. And it's on reveal.
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Vampire Killmonger steals 2 power from a character in your
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opponent's hand. I wrote down here that I've already seen
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Vampire Killmonger today and a few in the past couple
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of days. He had... definitely got some pretty significant power
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by the end of the game absolutely has good synergy
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with skill based cards like nicholas scratch and adding cards
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to your hand of course is going to help the
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collector but i'm going to say this a couple times
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shadow king there is a shadow king glass jaw that
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hovers over a lot of these vampire cards.
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I finally know how to use shadow king but now
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he just scares me i'm Like, no, if I put
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it in there, I'll ruin my own guys.
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Because you're empowering your own stuff, yeah.
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Although I did, either right before or right after they
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nerfed Luke Cage, I was messing around with a deck
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that was just all cards that reduce your own cards' values,
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but Luke Cage says nah. Ah, ah, smart. Can't remember
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if Shadow King was in that or not. I called
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it Fantastic Floor. Because there was a floor for all
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your power.
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That's correct. That's correct. And my other note here was
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about spending all your energy. I don't know if you
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have too many of those cards. There's only a few
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out there in Marvel Snap where you've got to spend
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all your energy for whatever to happen. It always appears
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to be trickier than I actually can pull off. But
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there's my thoughts on Vampire Kill.
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So he'd go well with Wiccan.
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Yeah, definitely.
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I have seen him a lot. I wasn't tempted to
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get the season pass until i saw him in action
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and of course this i think this was a favorite
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everybody who's been demanding a killmonger joaquin torres falcon team
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up in the comics or in the movies yeah yeah
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yeah a friend friend of mine mentioned that and i
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i got hit with a bunch of those spears twice
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today um so yeah he's he's he's dangerous i'm not
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going to spring for the season pass this time but
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i'll be looking forward to trying to get him next Season. Yeah.
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All right. Next up is Zombie Blade. Two cost, three power.
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This is a super premium pass card. At the end
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of the turn, if you played an on reveal, your
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zombie horde steals one power from a character in your
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opponent's hand. And it does say horde first if necessary.
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If you don't have a horde card out, it will
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create one.
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Okay, got it.
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All right.
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Yeah, I was going to say, if it says usually
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a horde plus whatever, it creates the card and puts
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it on there. Okay, I put down here, I like
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that Zombie Blade feeds the horde while weakening cards in
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your opponent's hands. Two cost, three power that rewards you
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for playing on reveal cards. Seems easy enough to work
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into something like a gore deck. I do enjoy playing
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the horde. I have a few of those decks, actually.
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So I'm kind of happy to see him supporting that mechanic.
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So I'm glad that we're getting more horde-related cards here, which...
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I think when we first talked about this back last
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year in October, I was like, man, I don't know
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if they're going to. And you were definitely, your response was, well,
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they'll definitely bring it back next Halloween. And sure enough,
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here we are.
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Look how smart I am.
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You are a smart guy. All right, what do you
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think about Zombie Blade?
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Yeah, definitely a cool power. It just occurred to me
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Werewolf by Night would be good with him, too. Ooh. And, yeah,
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it's fun to get more zombie options. I was just
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looking at it. I've got a deck called Task Force
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Z that has all the horde-building zombies. Luke Cage and
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Colonel America are not invited. But my girl Venus is
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in there.
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Nice.
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So you boost that horde up even more. Yep. So, yeah,
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my only complaint there is it should have had a
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discard-related effect.
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Oh, you would think.
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It's known for his discarding. My other note was, yeah,
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I guess there's not only one blade after all, Wesley Snipes.
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I wouldn't be just calling him out, because I know
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he frequently listens to the podcast. Oh, crap.
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Yeah, that was a typo. I mean, why'd they make
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another blade? There's only one blade. Always bet on black.
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Perfect.
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Perfect.
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So next up is zombie venom three cost three power
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series five card on reveal destroy your first other card
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here after one of your other cards is destroyed horde
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plus two i wrote down here this doesn't really grab
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me but then as i got a little bit further
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down into some additional character well one specifically another card
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that's going to be talked about here i can kind
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of see why that makes sense yeah but i think
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that it's tough i know that hybrid decks i've always
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thought were fun i just think they're really tough to
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make work like it's really tough and horde destroy it
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it feels kind of awkward it may work i'm just
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saying it's going to be i don't know it might
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be one of the better pairings of deck archetypes but
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anyway this one didn't call out to me too much
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what's your thoughts.
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I like this one, but I'm not sure I can
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articulate why. But I know what you're saying about the
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hybrid deck, but I look at, I may have one
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floating around every couple of weeks. I go back and
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try to do another Phantom X Wildchild deck where you
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got to do destroy and discard. And at one point
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I was trying to get as many as I could
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of each, but really all you need is most of
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the time, my only discard card in that is Black Cat.
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So all I have to do is draw it and
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not play it.
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Right, right.
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So with this one, maybe it's a destroy deck that
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you only have Zombie Venom in, or maybe you put
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the Hunger in, because once Zombie Venom gets the ball rolling,
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then does it only happen once, or does it happen
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every time one of your cards is destroyed?
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All right, real quick. This is post-edit Jesse coming at you.
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Had to tidy up some of our discussion here on
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Zombie Venom as... I clearly got it wrong. I think
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Evan was on the right track. But just to make
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sure we establish what zombie venom can do, your first
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other card, which would be your top left card in
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that lane that you lay zombie venom down, gets destroyed.
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And then, when any of your other cards are destroyed,
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it doesn't matter which lane, your horde gets plus two. So...
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Apologies for any confusion, but I guess there won't be
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any confusion considering I'm going to delete everything that we said.
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That was incorrect. So let's get back to the program.
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I haven't seen him a whole lot. I have seen
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Zombie Blade and Vampire Killmonger plenty.
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All right. Well, ladies and gentlemen, Vampire Enchantress, a six cost,
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seven power card on reveal for each different cost among
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your cards in play. Steal one power from an enemy
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card here. So maximizing the different costs in play is important.
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She can have a pretty huge swing if that happens.
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Potentially turning into something like a six cost, 12 power.
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Or even better, if you got a zero cost out there,
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I would imagine that counts towards the different costs, right?
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Yeah.
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Oh, it does.
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Because that's why Yellowjacket's in my claw deck.
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Yeah. And again, she is a six, seven cost. and
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the card looks like she is doing the 6-7 meme.
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I don't have any notes. Evan Bevins, your thoughts?
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My only note was hanging with Mr. Clipper.
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Okay.
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If I get her, she'll go in that deck, because
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you're already trying to get as many different costs as
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you can. I forget if I put Jubilee in there,
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but not that... It's worth it just to try to
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get an extra point or two, but you get Jubilee
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in there and maybe throw Fin Fang Foom or Weapon
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H or Scar or Giganto in there, you could get
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even more. You might even be able to get more
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than six points.
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Oh, all right.
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Yeah, yeah, very interesting take on the Enchantress. Definitely. Definitely.
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Okay, well, you mentioned... So this card's neat, this next
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one that's coming up here. You mentioned Black Cat earlier.
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This is Zombie Black Cat. Three cost, five power. So
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when discarded, you are going to discard another when discarded card.
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And then jump to your location with the fewest cards.
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I like this. And even though it took me a
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minute to figure this out, when you're playing her in discard,
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if you pair her with cards like Swarm or Scorn
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or Proxima Midnight, you're going to be able to chain
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a couple discard situations together here.
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Or Apocalypse or Weapon H. Yeah. I.
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Kind of dig this card, to be honest. You get
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Black Cat out there for free, practically. She jumps to
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the location with the fewest cards. So what is the
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odd one, the one that discards odd cards? Is that.
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Who is that?
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Swordmaster.
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It's a Swordmaster, okay. So obviously you probably want her,
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or him in the deck. Swordmaster or her, he.
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It's a dude, it's Lin Lee. It's Iron Fist.
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That's right, that's right. For some reason I was thinking
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there was a female version of Swordmaster... I don't know
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what I'm thinking.
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Enough of your woke nonsense.
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What's your thoughts on Black Cat? Zombie Black Cat.
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I put Inception, which I don't think is the right
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use of that, but it's a discarded card that discards
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another card when it's discarded. So, yeah, I thought of Scorn, Apocalypse,
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and Weapon H. And then would... I wonder if my...
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I don't like him in the comics, but I sure
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do like him in Snap Buddy Dackin'. Would work with that.
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Would that trigger the shard, the Miramasa shard, getting discarded?
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Does he get discarded? Oh, no, you've got to discard
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the shard.
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Yeah, when this is discarded or destroyed. So I think
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it would work with that, too.
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What does the rest of the card say?
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When this is discarded or destroyed, double Dakin's power.
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Okay. There's a lot of use to this card, I feel. Oh, yeah.
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I wonder how many, well, there's going to be quite
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a few. All right, very good. Well, then we get
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to Vampire Deacon Frost, and I've got questions. I'll get
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to them here in a second.
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Oh, yeah, I have a question, too.
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Four cost, five power. The objective here, this card has objective.
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Three of your cards have to have stolen power, all right?
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When that happens, you transform Vampire Deacon Frost into the
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Crimson Behemoth. And the Crimson Behemoth... is a four cost
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nine power card. And if you drop that card out,
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on reveal, steal all the power of a front row
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enemy card here. All right, so my notes, I've already
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heard people comparing this card to Fin Fang Foom. Probably
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pretty easy parallel there, right?
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I wrote down here, the steal power objective may take
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some setup, but once he becomes Crimson Behemoth, Stealing all
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the power from a front row enemy card could absolutely
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flip a game, or at least a lane at the
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very least. Although those front row cards aren't always the
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biggest targets. Sometimes they're kind of weenies. I'm also curious
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how long it takes before Snap introduces some kind of
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anti-vampire counter that can stop a reverse stolen power. But
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then I was like, well, wait a second. For him,
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for Vampire Deacon Frost, it's just Luke Cage. he'd probably
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steal the power but you wouldn't lose it I guess
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that's the deal the other thing is know what the
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heck Crimson Behemoth is I never knew that was anything
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tied to Vampire Deacon Frost or Deacon Frost at all
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can you Evan Bevins shed some light I did not
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look that up because I was too busy nitpicking something
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else well had you even heard of it no I.
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Have heard of Deacon Frost but Possibly, keep in mind,
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this I don't think is based on any comic, so
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maybe this is just something they came up with in
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their own story, Fractured Frontier.
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I am trying to Google it because it's been a
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long time since I watched Blade, but he does get
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all swole at the end, but then he explodes. Spoiler alert. Yeah,
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when I searched for Deacon Frost and Crimson Behemoth, or Behemoth,
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I don't even know how you say it. The only
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thing I see is references to Marvel Snap, although there
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is one scene of him pre-explosion at the end of
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Blade that popped up. But my question is, so now
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that we have vampire Deacon Frost, are we also going
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to get mutant Wolverine? Or female invisible woman? Deacon Frost
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is a vampire. That's his whole thing. That's his whole thing.
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He's a vampire. And yeah, he's been in the comics.
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I think he appeared three issues after Blade in... Tomb
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of Dracula, if I am not mistaken, and died in
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an issue of Falcon in 2018. Oh, wow. Oh, how
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the mighty have fallen. But, yeah, and I was trying
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to think, okay, well, who all... One thing is it's
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not like there's a ton of cards that can have
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stolen energy right now. Silver Sable is who I immediately
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thought of, but I think other people who would trigger
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it are Boomerang, Cassandra Nova, Rocket and Groot, Dragon of
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the Moon, and Laufey. basic monster squad universal monsters but
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yeah so there's not a lot but i don't know
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that would be a pretty fun fun deck to try
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out so i think i don't understand why he's getting
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all red and swollen and i don't understand why we're
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saying he's a vampire when he's clearly a vampire but
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despite that confusion i'd be intrigued to give it a
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whirl All.
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Right, next up is Zombie Nova. Two cost, zero power.
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This is attached to some type of event. I didn't
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take a look to see which events are coming up
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this season. On reveal and when destroyed, Horde plus three.
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So this is adding six to the Horde, and this
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was the card that I was thinking of that you'd
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probably want to pair up with Venom. Because if you...
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Zombie Venom, I think, what, gives you plus two when
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you destroy the second card and forward? So if you
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could get some inconsequential one cost out there, lay out
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Zombie Nova, then you've got a horde going somewhere, and
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they could get... The horde could have six, eight power,
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I think, by the time turn three rolls around.
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So.
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Anyway, I think it's pretty cool. Between the on reveal
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and the destroy trigger, I think you can get your
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horde up there. I kind of dig this one, the
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way that it kind of pairs with Zombie Venom. Anyway,
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any thoughts on Zombie Nova?
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Well, we're keeping the theme consistent with power from being destroyed.
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I was trying to look up and see which event
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he's coming with, but I can't seem to find it.
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Let me look here real quick.
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Oh, well, Grand Arena and Deadpool's Diner are coming this month. So,
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no draft. Hmm.
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Bummer. All right. Well, then, finally, we've got Vampire America Chavez.
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Three costs, four power. This is another tied to an
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event here. One reveal. For each location you're winning, steal
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one power from the top character of your opponent's deck. Um...
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I wrote down here she can theoretically become a three
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cost seven power if you're winning all three locations. But
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that's probably not happening too often on turn three. I
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think the real value is in the on reveal synergy
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with cards long or Odin. Because repeatedly stealing power off
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top card of your opponent's deck could really add up
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and could make an impact. And once again, the season
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is making me think Shadow King is going to be everywhere.
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So your thoughts on Vampire America Chavez.
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This one actually reminds me of a throwback to the
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last season. It's almost an inverted America Chavez where she's
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stealing power from the card instead of adding power to it.
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And it occurred to me that I sounded really smart
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talking about Deacon Frost, and I'm like, there's not that
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many steel energy cards out there. Yeah, until this season.
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Then there's a lot of them, and they're all vampires.
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So Killmonger, Enchantress, Deacon Frost, and America Chavez. So, yeah,
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I think it's pretty cool just for the season as
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a whole to concentrate on the synergy and these effects,
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but also give you almost two different tracks. I think
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it's a pretty cool way they've set this up.
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All right. Finally, to finish things out here, we got location, location, location.
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Our first one is the Undead Metropolis episode. Which, DC's
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probably going to have a problem here. Somebody's going to
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cease and desist. Undead Metropolis.
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Lowercase Metropolis.
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After you play a card here, Horde plus one. My
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only note here was Kitty Pride, because the more cards
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you can lay down here, I guess, the bigger that
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Horde's going to get.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely.
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What's your thoughts?
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Definitely one of those decks. I said I already had
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a decent zombie deck, but now it's got more options
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this season, and that'll be one to bring out when
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this is the featured location.
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And will I Legion it?
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Of course you will.
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I'll Legion it. All right, and then lastly is Crimson Citadel.
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Welcome to a new feature called What Won't Jesse Legion?
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Your next play here steals two power from a random enemy.
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So this is one of those locations where it only
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happened one time, which... I don't know. It's the location.
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Both players are going to most likely.
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It's just a wash it feels right i don't i
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don't know why but i guess you could say that
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for just about every location that has some kind of
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ability but i don't know.
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If you're playing deacon frost that just gives you another
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chance to trigger him yeah um.
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Let me see.
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Let me look at that. Yeah, that's all I said
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was a Crimson Citadel for a Crimson Behemoth. But two
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power from a random enemy. You never know. That could
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end up coming back to bite you at some point.
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That's a good one. That's a good one. I wrote
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down Sebastian Shaw because you're stealing two power. All right, great.
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You can empower him and get him a little bit
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more of a boost. Thanks a lot for joining us.
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Make sure to tune in tomorrow for the next installment.
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of Snap Materials.
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We are going to now get into discussing the upcoming season,
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which is titled Vampires vs. Zombies. This dropped October 6th
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of 2026. You can probably figure it out, folks. We're
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going to be focusing on the Horde cards, well, Horde-related cards,
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I should say, and also cards that will steal the
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power from enemies.
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Um... All right.
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So we're going to start it out with Vampire Killmonger
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2 cost 2 power. This is our season pass card.
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At the end of the turn, if you have spent
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all your energy, you get a Vampiric Spear. The Vampiric
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Spear is a 1 cost skill card. And it's on reveal.
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Vampire Killmonger steals 2 power from a character in your
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opponent's hand. I wrote down here that I've already seen
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Vampire Killmonger today and a few in the past couple
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of days. He had... definitely got some pretty significant power
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by the end of the game absolutely has good synergy
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with skill based cards like nicholas scratch and adding cards
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to your hand of course is going to help the
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collector but i'm going to say this a couple times
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shadow king there is a shadow king glass jaw that
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hovers over a lot of these vampire cards.
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I finally know how to use shadow king but now
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he just scares me i'm Like, no, if I put
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it in there, I'll ruin my own guys.
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Because you're empowering your own stuff, yeah.
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Although I did, either right before or right after they
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nerfed Luke Cage, I was messing around with a deck
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that was just all cards that reduce your own cards' values,
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but Luke Cage says nah. Ah, ah, smart. Can't remember
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if Shadow King was in that or not. I called
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it Fantastic Floor. Because there was a floor for all
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your power.
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That's correct. That's correct. And my other note here was
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about spending all your energy. I don't know if you
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have too many of those cards. There's only a few
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out there in Marvel Snap where you've got to spend
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all your energy for whatever to happen. It always appears
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to be trickier than I actually can pull off. But
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there's my thoughts on Vampire Kill.
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So he'd go well with Wiccan.
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Yeah, definitely.
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I have seen him a lot. I wasn't tempted to
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get the season pass until i saw him in action
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and of course this i think this was a favorite
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everybody who's been demanding a killmonger joaquin torres falcon team
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up in the comics or in the movies yeah yeah
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yeah a friend friend of mine mentioned that and i
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i got hit with a bunch of those spears twice
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today um so yeah he's he's he's dangerous i'm not
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going to spring for the season pass this time but
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i'll be looking forward to trying to get him next Season. Yeah.
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All right. Next up is Zombie Blade. Two cost, three power.
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This is a super premium pass card. At the end
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of the turn, if you played an on reveal, your
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zombie horde steals one power from a character in your
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opponent's hand. And it does say horde first if necessary.
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If you don't have a horde card out, it will
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create one.
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Okay, got it.
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a horde plus whatever, it creates the card and puts
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it on there. Okay, I put down here, I like
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that Zombie Blade feeds the horde while weakening cards in
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your opponent's hands. Two cost, three power that rewards you
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for playing on reveal cards. Seems easy enough to work
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into something like a gore deck. I do enjoy playing
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the horde. I have a few of those decks, actually.
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So I'm kind of happy to see him supporting that mechanic.
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So I'm glad that we're getting more horde-related cards here, which...
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I think when we first talked about this back last
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year in October, I was like, man, I don't know
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if they're going to. And you were definitely, your response was, well,
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they'll definitely bring it back next Halloween. And sure enough,
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here we are.
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Look how smart I am.
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You are a smart guy. All right, what do you
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think about Zombie Blade?
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Yeah, definitely a cool power. It just occurred to me
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Werewolf by Night would be good with him, too. Ooh. And, yeah,
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it's fun to get more zombie options. I was just
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looking at it. I've got a deck called Task Force
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Z that has all the horde-building zombies. Luke Cage and
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Colonel America are not invited. But my girl Venus is
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in there.
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Nice.
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So you boost that horde up even more. Yep. So, yeah,
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my only complaint there is it should have had a
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discard-related effect.
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Oh, you would think.
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It's known for his discarding. My other note was, yeah,
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I guess there's not only one blade after all, Wesley Snipes.
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I wouldn't be just calling him out, because I know
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he frequently listens to the podcast. Oh, crap.
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Yeah, that was a typo. I mean, why'd they make
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another blade? There's only one blade. Always bet on black.
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Perfect.
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So next up is zombie venom three cost three power
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series five card on reveal destroy your first other card
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here after one of your other cards is destroyed horde
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plus two i wrote down here this doesn't really grab
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me but then as i got a little bit further
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down into some additional character well one specifically another card
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that's going to be talked about here i can kind
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of see why that makes sense yeah but i think
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that it's tough i know that hybrid decks i've always
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thought were fun i just think they're really tough to
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make work like it's really tough and horde destroy it
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it feels kind of awkward it may work i'm just
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saying it's going to be i don't know it might
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be one of the better pairings of deck archetypes but
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anyway this one didn't call out to me too much
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what's your thoughts.
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I like this one, but I'm not sure I can
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articulate why. But I know what you're saying about the
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hybrid deck, but I look at, I may have one
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floating around every couple of weeks. I go back and
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try to do another Phantom X Wildchild deck where you
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got to do destroy and discard. And at one point
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I was trying to get as many as I could
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of each, but really all you need is most of
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the time, my only discard card in that is Black Cat.
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So all I have to do is draw it and
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not play it.
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Right, right.
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So with this one, maybe it's a destroy deck that
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you only have Zombie Venom in, or maybe you put
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the Hunger in, because once Zombie Venom gets the ball rolling,
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then does it only happen once, or does it happen
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every time one of your cards is destroyed?
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All right, real quick. This is post-edit Jesse coming at you.
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Had to tidy up some of our discussion here on
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Zombie Venom as... I clearly got it wrong. I think
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Evan was on the right track. But just to make
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sure we establish what zombie venom can do, your first
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other card, which would be your top left card in
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that lane that you lay zombie venom down, gets destroyed.
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And then, when any of your other cards are destroyed,
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it doesn't matter which lane, your horde gets plus two. So...
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Apologies for any confusion, but I guess there won't be
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any confusion considering I'm going to delete everything that we said.
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That was incorrect. So let's get back to the program.
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I haven't seen him a whole lot. I have seen
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Zombie Blade and Vampire Killmonger plenty.
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All right. Well, ladies and gentlemen, Vampire Enchantress, a six cost,
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seven power card on reveal for each different cost among
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your cards in play. Steal one power from an enemy
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card here. So maximizing the different costs in play is important.
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She can have a pretty huge swing if that happens.
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Potentially turning into something like a six cost, 12 power.
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Or even better, if you got a zero cost out there,
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I would imagine that counts towards the different costs, right?
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Oh, it does.
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Because that's why Yellowjacket's in my claw deck.
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Yeah. And again, she is a six, seven cost. and
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the card looks like she is doing the 6-7 meme.
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I don't have any notes. Evan Bevins, your thoughts?
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My only note was hanging with Mr. Clipper.
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Okay.
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If I get her, she'll go in that deck, because
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you're already trying to get as many different costs as
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you can. I forget if I put Jubilee in there,
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but not that... It's worth it just to try to
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get an extra point or two, but you get Jubilee
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in there and maybe throw Fin Fang Foom or Weapon
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H or Scar or Giganto in there, you could get
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even more. You might even be able to get more
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than six points.
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Oh, all right.
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Yeah, yeah, very interesting take on the Enchantress. Definitely. Definitely.
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Okay, well, you mentioned... So this card's neat, this next
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one that's coming up here. You mentioned Black Cat earlier.
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This is Zombie Black Cat. Three cost, five power. So
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when discarded, you are going to discard another when discarded card.
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And then jump to your location with the fewest cards.
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I like this. And even though it took me a
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minute to figure this out, when you're playing her in discard,
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if you pair her with cards like Swarm or Scorn
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or Proxima Midnight, you're going to be able to chain
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a couple discard situations together here.
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Or Apocalypse or Weapon H. Yeah. I.
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Kind of dig this card, to be honest. You get
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Black Cat out there for free, practically. She jumps to
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the location with the fewest cards. So what is the
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odd one, the one that discards odd cards? Is that.
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Who is that?
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Swordmaster.
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It's a Swordmaster, okay. So obviously you probably want her,
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or him in the deck. Swordmaster or her, he.
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It's a dude, it's Lin Lee. It's Iron Fist.
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That's right, that's right. For some reason I was thinking
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there was a female version of Swordmaster... I don't know
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what I'm thinking.
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Enough of your woke nonsense.
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What's your thoughts on Black Cat? Zombie Black Cat.
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I put Inception, which I don't think is the right
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use of that, but it's a discarded card that discards
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another card when it's discarded. So, yeah, I thought of Scorn, Apocalypse,
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and Weapon H. And then would... I wonder if my...
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I don't like him in the comics, but I sure
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do like him in Snap Buddy Dackin'. Would work with that.
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Would that trigger the shard, the Miramasa shard, getting discarded?
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Does he get discarded? Oh, no, you've got to discard
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the shard.
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Yeah, when this is discarded or destroyed. So I think
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it would work with that, too.
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What does the rest of the card say?
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When this is discarded or destroyed, double Dakin's power.
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Okay. There's a lot of use to this card, I feel. Oh, yeah.
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I wonder how many, well, there's going to be quite
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a few. All right, very good. Well, then we get
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to Vampire Deacon Frost, and I've got questions. I'll get
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to them here in a second.
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Oh, yeah, I have a question, too.
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Four cost, five power. The objective here, this card has objective.
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Three of your cards have to have stolen power, all right?
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When that happens, you transform Vampire Deacon Frost into the
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Crimson Behemoth. And the Crimson Behemoth... is a four cost
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nine power card. And if you drop that card out,
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on reveal, steal all the power of a front row
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enemy card here. All right, so my notes, I've already
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heard people comparing this card to Fin Fang Foom. Probably
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pretty easy parallel there, right?
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I wrote down here, the steal power objective may take
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some setup, but once he becomes Crimson Behemoth, Stealing all
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the power from a front row enemy card could absolutely
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flip a game, or at least a lane at the
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very least. Although those front row cards aren't always the
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biggest targets. Sometimes they're kind of weenies. I'm also curious
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how long it takes before Snap introduces some kind of
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anti-vampire counter that can stop a reverse stolen power. But
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then I was like, well, wait a second. For him,
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for Vampire Deacon Frost, it's just Luke Cage. he'd probably
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steal the power but you wouldn't lose it I guess
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that's the deal the other thing is know what the
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heck Crimson Behemoth is I never knew that was anything
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tied to Vampire Deacon Frost or Deacon Frost at all
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can you Evan Bevins shed some light I did not
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look that up because I was too busy nitpicking something
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else well had you even heard of it no I.
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Have heard of Deacon Frost but Possibly, keep in mind,
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this I don't think is based on any comic, so
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maybe this is just something they came up with in
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their own story, Fractured Frontier.
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Could be.
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I am trying to Google it because it's been a
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long time since I watched Blade, but he does get
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all swole at the end, but then he explodes. Spoiler alert. Yeah,
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when I searched for Deacon Frost and Crimson Behemoth, or Behemoth,
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I don't even know how you say it. The only
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thing I see is references to Marvel Snap, although there
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is one scene of him pre-explosion at the end of
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Blade that popped up. But my question is, so now
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that we have vampire Deacon Frost, are we also going
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to get mutant Wolverine? Or female invisible woman? Deacon Frost
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is a vampire. That's his whole thing. That's his whole thing.
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He's a vampire. And yeah, he's been in the comics.
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I think he appeared three issues after Blade in... Tomb
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of Dracula, if I am not mistaken, and died in
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an issue of Falcon in 2018. Oh, wow. Oh, how
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the mighty have fallen. But, yeah, and I was trying
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to think, okay, well, who all... One thing is it's
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not like there's a ton of cards that can have
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stolen energy right now. Silver Sable is who I immediately
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thought of, but I think other people who would trigger
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it are Boomerang, Cassandra Nova, Rocket and Groot, Dragon of
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the Moon, and Laufey. basic monster squad universal monsters but
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yeah so there's not a lot but i don't know
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that would be a pretty fun fun deck to try
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out so i think i don't understand why he's getting
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all red and swollen and i don't understand why we're
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saying he's a vampire when he's clearly a vampire but
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despite that confusion i'd be intrigued to give it a
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whirl All.
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Right, next up is Zombie Nova. Two cost, zero power.
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This is attached to some type of event. I didn't
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take a look to see which events are coming up
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this season. On reveal and when destroyed, Horde plus three.
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So this is adding six to the Horde, and this
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was the card that I was thinking of that you'd
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probably want to pair up with Venom. Because if you...
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Zombie Venom, I think, what, gives you plus two when
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you destroy the second card and forward? So if you
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could get some inconsequential one cost out there, lay out
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Zombie Nova, then you've got a horde going somewhere, and
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they could get... The horde could have six, eight power,
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I think, by the time turn three rolls around.
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So.
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Anyway, I think it's pretty cool. Between the on reveal
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and the destroy trigger, I think you can get your
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horde up there. I kind of dig this one, the
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way that it kind of pairs with Zombie Venom. Anyway,
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any thoughts on Zombie Nova?
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Well, we're keeping the theme consistent with power from being destroyed.
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I was trying to look up and see which event
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he's coming with, but I can't seem to find it.
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Let me look here real quick.
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Oh, well, Grand Arena and Deadpool's Diner are coming this month. So,
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no draft. Hmm.
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Bummer. All right. Well, then, finally, we've got Vampire America Chavez.
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Three costs, four power. This is another tied to an
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event here. One reveal. For each location you're winning, steal
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one power from the top character of your opponent's deck. Um...
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I wrote down here she can theoretically become a three
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cost seven power if you're winning all three locations. But
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that's probably not happening too often on turn three. I
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think the real value is in the on reveal synergy
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with cards long or Odin. Because repeatedly stealing power off
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top card of your opponent's deck could really add up
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and could make an impact. And once again, the season
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is making me think Shadow King is going to be everywhere.
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So your thoughts on Vampire America Chavez.
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This one actually reminds me of a throwback to the
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last season. It's almost an inverted America Chavez where she's
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stealing power from the card instead of adding power to it.
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And it occurred to me that I sounded really smart
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talking about Deacon Frost, and I'm like, there's not that
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many steel energy cards out there. Yeah, until this season.
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Then there's a lot of them, and they're all vampires.
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So Killmonger, Enchantress, Deacon Frost, and America Chavez. So, yeah,
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I think it's pretty cool just for the season as
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a whole to concentrate on the synergy and these effects,
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but also give you almost two different tracks. I think
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it's a pretty cool way they've set this up.
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All right. Finally, to finish things out here, we got location, location, location.
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Our first one is the Undead Metropolis episode. Which, DC's
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probably going to have a problem here. Somebody's going to
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cease and desist. Undead Metropolis.
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Lowercase Metropolis.
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After you play a card here, Horde plus one. My
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only note here was Kitty Pride, because the more cards
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you can lay down here, I guess, the bigger that
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Horde's going to get.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely.
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What's your thoughts?
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Definitely one of those decks. I said I already had
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a decent zombie deck, but now it's got more options
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this season, and that'll be one to bring out when
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this is the featured location.
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And will I Legion it?
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Of course you will.
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I'll Legion it. All right, and then lastly is Crimson Citadel.
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Welcome to a new feature called What Won't Jesse Legion?
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Your next play here steals two power from a random enemy.
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So this is one of those locations where it only
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happened one time, which... I don't know. It's the location.
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Both players are going to most likely.
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It's just a wash it feels right i don't i
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don't know why but i guess you could say that
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for just about every location that has some kind of
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ability but i don't know.
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If you're playing deacon frost that just gives you another
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chance to trigger him yeah um.
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Let me see.
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Let me look at that. Yeah, that's all I said
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was a Crimson Citadel for a Crimson Behemoth. But two
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power from a random enemy. You never know. That could
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end up coming back to bite you at some point.
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That's a good one. That's a good one. I wrote
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down Sebastian Shaw because you're stealing two power. All right, great.
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You can empower him and get him a little bit
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more of a boost. Thanks a lot for joining us.
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Make sure to tune in tomorrow for the next installment.
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of Snap Materials.
