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Get A, get a boys.
It's table buzz. We're back today,
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our first episode with a guest here
in Toronto. We got a pretty big
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one. His name is Carl Suban. He's the father of PK Su ban,
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but we're told there's a lot more
to the story, so we're here
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to find out. Carl, how
are you? Very good, very good.
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Thanks for having me. Happy to
have that. Yeah, our pleasure.
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You know, a lot of people
dream of having their kids in the
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in the National Hockey League, and
you have three kids that all made it
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to the pro level. Like just
touch on that experience first, beginning.
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Begin now really well, you know
I you know, we have the three
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boys, but I also have two
daughters to or educators, and you know,
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I don't mind saying that they continue
to make me look, you know,
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they make me look better than I
really am as a parent. You
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know what I mean. You know, all we can do is do the
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best that we can as parents and
hope for the best. And you know,
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so far my five children seemed,
they seem to be finding their way
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in life and and I've my fingers
are still cross, though. Hey,
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so far, so good. And
PK, you know, he just won
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a big awar there, the king
clancy. Did you get a chance to
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congratulate them on that? I'm sure
you did. Yeah, you know what
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I obviously I called them and and
and we talked about it just to let
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him know how proud I am.
And you know, and and I did
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say to him that, you know, this award, you know, tells
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me and so many others who he
is, that is more than just a
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hockey player and and it's so important
that that he is more than just a
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hockey player. Yeah, when on
the world needs more than hockey player,
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right? Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know, we just, I
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know the majority of US seahawckey and
we watch hockey or we play it and
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you know, but the world,
as we know, need more than just
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occuplayers. Yeah, one hundred percent. Like, if you look at the
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NHL PK probably is the main hockey
player that helps the community. He's always
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out. He's really well known for
that. So you did a really good
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job at here, son. Yes, well, you know what, I
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got to say that just because I've
been around hockey it from the grass roots
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to the pro level, and I
know so many players do so much and
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I know that the things that they're
doing to make our society better, to
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make our come here and is better, do not always make the headlines.
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You know what I mean. So
I remember when Pek went to Belleville and
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you know Marie and I, Maria
peak's mom, we know we can't take
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all the credit because that was built
into the program there, you know,
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community to work, community service.
So they were learning about hockey on the
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ice and there were learning about how
to be a difference maker in the community
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off the ice. So so it's
like, you know, the African problem.
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It takes a community to raise our
children. So yeah, so I'm
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proof of that, of course.
Yeah, I have. I had another
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question lined up about what you were
more proud of, the Norris or the
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king clancy, because one is such
a you know, his actual playing ability
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and the other is the impact that
his ability is allowed him to make.
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But you did a wonderful job answering
that question. I know that. My
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mom always said, you know,
the most sportsmen like trophy is never one
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to you know, stick your nose
out bad. It's just as important as
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the the production ones. Yeah,
yeah, you know, it's I remember
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when PK was younger and Malcolm and
Jordan to and and you know, I
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learned it as a parent. You're
always learning and growing, you know.
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And and so I learned this along
the way and it helped me a lot
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to deal with things that don't go
your way. That, you know,
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what's his main goal of playing hockey
since he was five or six. His
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goal was to play like those guys
on TV and eventually the be on TV
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play like them. And so he
made some teams, he didn't make other
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teams and here he is getting two
our wards. I am so happy for
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him and and, but I also
put everything in perspective. That that how
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lucky is to an unfortunate he is. And and I I I'll go back.
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I'll say this again that I'm very
happy that his skills are being recognized
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on the ice and the person he
is has been recognized for that off the
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ice. And I couldn't ask for
anything more other than a Stanley Cup.
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Yeah, yeah, there's one more
last there. Yeah, yeah, that's
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that we need. We need we
need to Stanley Cup. Hopefully he can
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grab one for your or maybe Malcolm
or maybe malcolmer and Jordan or maybe a
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neighbor or something. I don't yeah, tons opportunity. Well, you know
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what? My friend Chris Banko Stephen
is in the you know, they're they're
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playing and maybe, if they'll win
all, invite me over and because we're
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good friends, you'll probably hear this
is. It's Carl. You're always loved
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to ask, but I'm not going
to touch the cop you. That's what
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time? I'm sure you'll get you
a chance, I hope. Yeah,
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so we know that you have a
large history bag in, you know,
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Jamaica. But winded hockey come into
your life. Wow, it come in.
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It came into my life the moment
I started to live my better,
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to live my life in Canada,
because I came I was lost. I
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you know, I didn't like the
way the place was looking. I didn't
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like the way that I mean that
I looked, because I was so different
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than the kids I I saw pretty
outside on Peter Street and Stub Real Ontario,
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and then I heard them speaking and
I realize, odd, there's something
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going on here. There're speaking language. I didn't understand, or didn't know
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it. My parents told me what's
French. But you know, one day
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they invited me to play hockey with
them, those kids and Peter Street they
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could have turned on me, turned
their backs to me, called me all
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sorts of names. But you know
what, they didn't know my name.
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But they grabbed my attention and gave
me an invitation to play with them.
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And and so that's why hockey is
such a big part of my life,
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even before the NHL part. Yeah, it helped me with my integration into
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Canada. It gave me some new
friends, Gee and all the kids and
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Peter Street, all the Francophone kids. It gave me a new sport to
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play. I was used to playing
with the Cricket Bat. I was with
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a hockey stick. You A A
bit? Yeah, a bit, both
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made of wood and so and so. And I remember being a goalie because
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I when I played football back in
Jamaic, our soccer, I was a
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goalie. So I knew that position. And then I knew about Ken Dryden.
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I saw him play with the Montreal
Canadians. You guys weren't born then,
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okay. So, yeah, I
remember watching him and I fell in
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love with the Canadians and can and
I want to be like him and I
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started holding my landlord son t hawk
is stick like it was a gold is
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stick. And and so the game
of hockey was came into my life and
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sort of gave me a life which
I'm still living today's. I like the
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way I just said that. Yeah, beautiful, yeah, polenic did they
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did they regret this invite? I
mean you must have been pretty good.
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Obviously there's some genetics there. Well, you know, you know, it's
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about always like sports, and I
encourage young people to find your passion.
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You know, your passion will help
to to give you your talent and build
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your talents and skills and so on. And sports was something that I was
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good at. You know, one
of the greatest thing we can give to
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young people is is this thing,
this mindset, that they know what they're
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good at. And so I knew
what I was good at. I was
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good at catching the ball. I
was good at hitting the ball because a
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baseball at school used to play lot
ball, baseball, whatever, three pitch,
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and I was so good because I
grew up playing cricket. Yeah,
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I had very good hand iy coordination
hitting the cricket ball. You know,
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cricket was my hockey in Jamaica,
you know. And and so so I
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learned a lot of skills through kick
it, cricket which which were transferable to
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hockey. You know, I was
in Ned. I could catch the ball.
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I'm on the baseball field. I
didn't mean a baseball glad. I
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just take it off, but I
saw the hey, yeah, you supposed
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to leave the gloves on. You
know what I mean. Don't hold the
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hawk. Is the like. It's
a cricket battle. Okay, but you
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know, so I knew what I
was good at, and and and so,
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yeah, you know, it's important
that kids know and I had those
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early skills which help me, help
me to make friends, gave me something
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to do. And Jeans, obviously
jeans is an important part of who we
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are. Our jeans are you know, they're not destiny, but they do
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shape us to a certain degree,
along with the environment that we're in.
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So I just can't believe you're talking
to Peksue Man's Dad. It's awesome,
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year, Ol, we got worries. I'll get it happens. Yeah,
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so go ahead. Yeah, what
I was saying is obviously just touched on
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your sporting career and you didn't really
bring it up, but you're obviously a
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basketball legend. Went to Lakelet lakehead
basketball, or you played in the lake
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at Basketball Teams Arey, you're there
leading scorer of all time. So just
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obviously your daughter got that too,
your basketball skills, because he's a leading
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scorer of your yeah, UN so. Yeah, well, I have to
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just correct the one part there.
Johnny's Anada, late Johnny's Anada. I
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played against him in high school.
He was my coach at Lake Head.
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I passed to him, I assisted. I assisted on his record breaking point
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to become lay kids all time leading
score. I played that lake it.
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I loved it. I mean,
you know, I worked really, really
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hard. I because I loved it
and that love made me work hard.
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I became better at it. I
had a dream to play in the NBA,
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but that dream made me discover something
about Carl that I didn't know,
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that I love working with children and
and and that process also told me that
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they love working with me. So
I became an educator. My daughter also
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play basketball, and and so Marie
and I we, you know, we
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used to just yeah, we taught
and shoot hoops and and then, you
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know what? The good thing was
that she fell in love with you know.
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Sometimes, you know, I remember
when the kids were younger, the
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greatest love was was being with mom
and dad. You know, even pkate,
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learning to skates and skate and my
daughters they skated before my son's Kate
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because they're older, because we skated
as a family and in in and they
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all loved being with mom and dad
and then eventually they started to love the
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basketball or to love the hockey.
I'm not saying more than they love mom
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and dad, but that's all.
It's sort of took off and we're lucky
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when kids find that thing they love
to do, parents love it because it
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becomes that parent that they need,
you know, that extra parent, I
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call it, that they need,
and it helped me with my parenting and
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help them with their you know,
in their lives moving forward. So you
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know, you know my daughter,
I played basketball and it was a big
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part of my life. I never
played hockey, but it was a big
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part of my life too, as
I explain to you how I started in
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the sport. And but the kids, you know, they and maybe I
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had a dream for them and then
they bought into that dream and made it
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their dream. So that's that's a
trick. If we can get them to
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to love something, whether or not
we love it or not, it just
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makes it parenting so much easier.
Right on. Yeah, I can imagine
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it's a free babysitter when there.
I practice. You know, it's true.
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I you know that. That is
so true. That is that is
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so true. And they're a lot
happier. And when children are learning new
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skills and and in the team environment, they're learning new friends, they're learning
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to work with with with different adults. You know, they're learning so many
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skills that they need. And Yeah, it's it is. Yeah, it
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is pretty good. It's a good
babysitting strategy to do it force. And
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you say you guys did a lot
as a family, skating as a family.
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As the as the kids got older
and became, you know, more
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serious about the sports, I can
imagine the competition must have also increased as
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well. As how was that between
them? Yeah, like a you know,
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street hockey or you know, the
laps around got quicker. Yeah,
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the the you know, the the
most intense competition took place in the hallway
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with PK Malcolm and Jordan play Ministis. Okay, he always would come out
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on top. Okay, if he
would do whatever it is it's to win,
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but they're also moments where Malcolm was
in the basement in a he have
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his pads on. You go down
and and I don't know, he's making
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these imaginary saves. And I could
see pek sitting on the couch taping stick
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and I and there was Jordan emptying
the laundry basket. It's there by the
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front door, and either he made
a ball or he's using a ball that
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was found somewhere there. And and
he had really good hands. That's why
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they with George, had great hands, and so, you know, yeah,
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so that's what I saw. There
was this competition when they were playing,
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but there was also this internal drive
that that I really noticed and and
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I'm looking back now, I said, wow, you know, I never,
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you know, I never had to
turn the TV off because I never
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turned it never turned it was never
turned off, but I never had to
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turn it off because there they were
watching too much TV. But it was
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always on because they were busy doing
so many other things. Natasha was painting.
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For the most part, are drawing
and PK was an artist. To
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Tas was always reading our remember getting
rid of those goosebumps books. And so
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they're all doing their own little thing. They're all in in our in this
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big world or a home, but
they're all in their own little world within
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that big world, you know.
And and I could see how they were
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defining the young person that they would
become. Yeah, that must have been
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great to watch for sure. Well, I had a front rosie. Yeah,
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and you say Pek's and artist.
He's definitely turned into more of a
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public arsh with this, his fashion. He's a release some lines and stuff
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like that. What do you think
of him, you know, dipping his
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toes into the other categories? I
guess. Yeah, you know what,
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I go back to Belleville and George
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lot about hockey, lest less way. I was born in Jamaica. I
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came here twelve years of each what
did I know? And so and I
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didn't play minor hockey, I came
here too late and all that stuff.
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But and so when he went to
Belleville, you know you you had to
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look a certain way, you had
to dress a certain way, you had
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to speak a certain way. And
so that's why I said it take.
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It does take a village to help
raise her children. And then, you
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know, some players will will take
it beyond what it is and like PK.
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Fashion is a big part of you
know, he's being who he is
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and and that's really really important that
that, and I tell this the young
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people, be who you are.
You know, there's a wonderful quote.
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You know everyone else is taken.
So you might be yourself. If that
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is being a sharp dresser, go
ahead, you know what I mean.
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So so that's one thing, one
lesson that I've taken from peaks. A
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fact that you know he is.
He is who he is in the arena
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that he's in and and I think
when he goes to bed at night,
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I'm not in his skin and that
skating in his skates, but I know
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he's probably pretty happy he's doing what
he's doing and and he's able to operate
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within that arena that he is in. And sometimes, you know, he
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can feel there's a little bit of
pushing back and and and sometimes he's there's
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a head winds in the face of
this wind, but he just keeps going
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forward and and and maybe that's why
I got the Norris and maybe that's why
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he was able to be just got
this award here. He just keeps going
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and knowing who he is, knowing
what he stands for, and and and
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using so many resources around him.
You know, I always say to that
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he could be doing so many other
things with his time and money that I
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don't like. Yeah, big,
Oh, yeah. So, yeah,
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you wrote a book. Obviously it's
jam pack. So do you have a
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favor higher and got it on you. There you go. How we did
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it. Next, friends, do
ye, friend fans, check that out.
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Do you have a favorite story from
the book that you'd like to share?
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Maybe kind of putting me on the
spot. And No, I know
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they're there are many. Well,
you know what, they're many great stories
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in the book and and and and
really it's really not just to tell a
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story but to teach, to support
parents, to support educators as we work
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with young people the full fulfill their
potential. You know, one of the
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things I want people to take from
the book is is the fact that we
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need to help young people to to
realize your potential, you know, and
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that's why we parent, that's why
we, I really believe we coach them
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and and teach them is really helping
them to realize their potential. and to
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me that's a big takeaway from the
book. That what they're many, there
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many stories in the book and and
and from my earli years in in Jamaica
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to, you know, to the
point where PK became a household name.
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What is one particular story in the
book? You know, one of them
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is, you know, one of
them is just meeting Walter Gret Ski.
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There's a picture in there of,
you know, Carl Meeting Walter Gretzky,
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and and and and to me it's
not really a story, but it was
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a moment and I always reflect on
people call me the ultimate hockey death.
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Got Areas Right there, you know, the father of the great one,
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you know, but you know I
you know, there's so many stories that
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I can tell, from Carl suband
leaving Malcolm in Parry Sound. You know,
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we went to a tournament my dad. We're coming back from the PIC
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NICL tournament. I thought he was
still in the back of my truck sleeping
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and we were like ten minutes away. My phone was written. Some good
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thing. I answered my phone and
it was Malcolm says we're Malcolm was not
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there, you know. You Know
Malcolm in the middle. Malcolm was left
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behind verry sounded. Luckily there was
one of the down mills, the down
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mills team. I just pulled up. So the coach called me in and
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gave Malcolm his phone. So you
know, so that was that was you
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know that that was one of them. And and I told her the stories
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to you know, because you know, we get a lot of credit for
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Marie and I, you know,
for the hockey and and but and one
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hockey dad took it, took it
over the top here. You know,
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he wanted me to father a baby
with his wife. And so you guys
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are not you guys are all the
up. He thinks that I have the
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right jeans and so on, and
and you're asking me about jeans. But
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we know. I told him to
buy the book. By the way,
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let's go. There would be world
war. It is a true story.
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You know. It did approach me
and Carloway, you do me a favor.
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Go. What is it? Thinking
that he wanted some information about about
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shooting box or some says no,
I wanted to you know. I said,
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well, so I guess guarantee that's
going to work, but I hope
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he was just joking. I think
he was. Yeah, and my wife
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said to that he was joking.
Yeah, that's a bit of a strange
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request. Yeah, yeah, no
way there's a similar scene from Ted where
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they tried to do the same thing
with Tom Brady. I can imagine times
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across the mind. I'm sure maybe
they're read my book out of my story.
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It's a copyright here. Yeah,
so I mean that that's incredible by
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you. Obviously have to draw some
some comparison. There was a movie that
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just came out called King Richard,
about the father of the Williams sisters coming
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up. Yeah, so he had
a plan put in place before his kids
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were even born that they were going
to be such great stars and stuff.
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When did you and now I can't
imagine that's the case. That sounds a
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little looney to me. But when
did you realize that, you know,
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they have a real shot at turning, you know, sports into a career,
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not just as a way to you
know, to grow as a kid?
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Yeah, so I did say to
you before that we skated as a
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family and the girls skated before the
boys. They weren't even you know,
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they started skating when the boys were
really young and they weren't even walking yet
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when the girls were skating. So
skating was something that we did and both
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my daughters helped to teach p came
outcome and Jordan out to skate and and
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then a good friend of mine,
Dave, been spot peak is for a
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setup hockey equipment and I remember sitting
there a Friday night trying to suit him
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up and it was like a puzzle. You know that you don't know being
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all that stuff. Where does this
go? You know? Anyway, I
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remember when Pek was young and and
I remember is five or six, playing
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in the Toby Coo bulldogs and I
remember this grandfather saying to me, and
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I guess a lot of parents might
hear this to he said he looks like
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a hockey player. I remember him
saying that. I remember, you know,
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he looks like a hockey player.
And and then it wasn't until Pek
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was drafted by the Bulls and I
remember at the First Training Camp George Burnett
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the coach, and GM and we
were the first family. Pek was the
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first player the camp be met with
and he first of all he asked and
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where did you learn to skate like
that? And then and then he said
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to him you're going to play at
least at the American league level. And
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I said, George, that's good
enough for being hand had so to be
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honest with you, that's coming from
George who had coached in the NHL,
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coach in the American League at a
lot of success. That's the first time
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that, because no one tells you
that in minor hockey, and they should.
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You know what I mean. And
so you know, and obviously as
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parents we have dreams, we have
a vision for them, but so you
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know it doesn't all those dreams and
visions are not always realize. But when
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George told me that, that was
the first time I had an indication that
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that you know what he might play, he might make it, because you'd
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hear is too slow, it's not
big enough, and you hear different things
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and it's so important that the message
of believing in your potential and people might
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look at you and they might not
like your size, but they're gonna love
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your heart when they see you working
out and playing, playing on the ice
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or playing on the field or playing
on the cord and and so it's really
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important that you'll have this growth mindset, that you know what, I can
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better, I can do better.
I'm I can be better. I know
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that I can be better over time. You know, even though these people
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think they know me, they don't
know me. They might know my height,
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they know my weight, but they
don't know the size of my heart.
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Gotta prove it to yourself, kind
of thing. Yeah, don't worry
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about it what other people are saying. Yeah, that should be the Buzzer,
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the table, the table bus.
Okay, I got it. Yeah,
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I got it. You coined it. You guys laugh. I'm sure
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as a principal, you got all
the inspirational lines. How the quotes?
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Yeah, you know what, it's
leaders inspired and and kids need this.
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The young people today are students.
They need me to be more than just
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a principle. They need me to
be a source of inspiration. You'll on
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people, today's students today. They
don't need you to be a teacher,
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they need you to be a difference
maker and so and so. Yeah,
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we I look for ways to inspire
them daily, you know, whether it's
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by sharing a quote or telling US
story to make a point, just to
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get them to do more, get
them to continue to work, to be
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more and to become more, because, you know, our young people have
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been through a lot over the last
two years. They've been locked out,
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they've been locked in, they've been
locked out in and locked down and now
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I think they need a lot of
inspiration and and so that's what I try
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to do every day whenever I'm speaking
to a young person. I want to
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say something to them that will inspire
them to want to realize their potential.
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Yeah, that's above and beyond the
job description, for sure. That's yeah,
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well, they need us to go
above and beyond. Course, showing
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up is not enough. Yeah,
you know, you got to show up,
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put on your equipment, get the
game and and go fight right fist
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bite, but you know what I
mean. Yeah, yeah, you know,
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we you know, I was thinking
the other day about these three words
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fear, faith and fight. The
fear and and and how the pandemic has
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made all of us so fearful of
our health and of our futures and our
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opportunities. But, you know,
thank God we have faith, you know,
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and and and and hope. And
now the fight is the is the
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work we got to do, and
sometimes we have to fight through a lot.
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You know, look at the condition
of the world today, and most
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of all the news is bad,
and so we have to fight through that
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and and and and fight through failure
and fight through mistakes and fight through those
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things. That kids are being exposed
on social media. So, yeah,
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let's work through those fear. Let's
use our faith in our abilities, faith
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of the future. What's going to
happen, being hopeful and get ready to
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fight. That's that sounds like possibly
the mindset that your your parents had whenever
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they moved here. Is that maybe
where that stems from? What was it
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like whenever, you know, looking
up to them as they were going through
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a tough time immigrating to Canada?
Wow, you know, my parents came
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here at thirty years of age and
start over. They started over. Can
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you imagine moving to a new place
and starting over at thirty, you know,
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and so, you know, they
had hopes. I'm quite sure they
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had some fear, because I still
remember the people who help them navigate this.
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You know, the things they had
to navigate. Yeah, you know,
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winter clothing on, getting a doctor
and stuff like that. I remember
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some of their friends in Sudbury,
Madam Little Dasty you know, she gave
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me Spaghetti for the first time,
you know, and and she helped my
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families so much and probably that that
probably reduce some of the fear. And
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you know, and my parents are
probably a lot of faith. They had
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a lot of faith that they would
make it in their abilities. My mom
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was a seamstress and she went back
to school and an educate herself to become
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to become a lab technician, and
and and and so and my dad was
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a diesel mechanic learning straight in Jamaica. And and and I'm quite sure they
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were fighting every day to make a
better life. And so we learned a
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lot from them. They're my heroes. You know. Their story tells me
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that I can make it. They
story tells me that, you know,
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I can work through change, you
know. And so and their story tells
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me to not to give up.
And how could it not? Right?
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Yeah, it's an amazing story.
Couldn't imagine switching it all over, like
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me move into another country. I'm
not even thirty yet, but when I'm
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imagine, yeah, yeah, let
alone bringing the family with you. And
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Yeah, have you support more than
just yourself to that's yeah, mind bolt.
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Remember and know we had we didn't
have Google or cell phone, right.
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Yeah, yeah, you wouldn't.
Couldn't figure out. You'd have to
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figure out on your own where all
the stores are and stuff like right now,
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we just moved to Toronto. I'd
be putting it on my phone.
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Take my phone takes me right to
it. Yeah, let alone. And
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we had a place to live.
Whenever we got here, they would have
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just been showing up. You know. Now you got to find it when
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you're right with boots on the ground. Yeah, and we moved here like
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my uncle in subric my dad's brother
had sponsors. That's so we live them
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with for a while and then we
moved to Peter Street. My uncle was
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leslie and they lived on Lessli Street
and then we lived on and Peter Street,
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which is now mountain street, and
the House is still there, two
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hundred and ninety three Peter Street.
You can google this right there. It's,
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you know, rectangular shape. House
still looks the same and our apartments
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in the second forty conside the windows. I was looking through those windows out
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onto Peter Street and when I saw
this place I said no, I want
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to go I want to go back
to Jamaica. When I saw the kids,
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I've never I'M NOT gonna go out
there play with them, but don't
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look like yeah, but those same
kids helped me to live my life I
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never saw myself living. Yeah,
that's amazing. Yeah, that's a popular
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word, but the story is quite
incredible. Yeah, well, what are
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we doing for time? Yeah,
yes, our meetings going to end in
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four minutes on the old zoom,
so we might have to wrap it up.
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Yeah, I have. You're awesome, like this is a really this
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is an ideo podcast for us,
get us laugh and yeah, yeah,
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no, you know what, happy
to do it. And I love your
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title, Table Buzz and I know. So hopefully I've said enough that will
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cause a buzz. Tables buzzing.
That you were yeah, able is buzzing.
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And I want to say good luck
to both of you as you continue
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to realize your potential. And so
I'm sixty three and I'm still realizing it
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and you got both of you are
lot younger, and I wish you the
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very best here in your new home, in a new place, and I
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wish you all the best as you
guys move forward, and that means so
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much. You. Thank you for
everything really coming on here. Thank you
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for that message, thank you for
liking the name and thank you for raising
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some unreal kids. Yeah, well, you know, I thank you for
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that and and every day I thank
the village. Do you know? I
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never forget to thank the village and
you guys should invite me back in September,
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October, because I have my second
book coming out. Oh, okay,
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but calls, okay, skates in
a box. So you imagination's going
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to run wild. Yeah, perfectly. Not to come on and read it
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and talk about it and why I
have written it. So that would cause
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another Bush. I know for sure. I'll send one to you guys in
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advance. Okay, we can have
will all read it on your ill read
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little bit on your and your show. Yeah, we get all the kids
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watching them. Hot have be awesome. Ye, they'll say, push over
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mom, push over the here.
Yeah, let's let's hear this story about
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skates in a box, right on, all right. Well, we'll see
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you then. Yeah, all right, okay, sounds good. All right,
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I enjoyed the summer. Thanks you, all right, thank you.
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Save you, guys.
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Get A, get a boys.
It's table buzz. We're back today,
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our first episode with a guest here
in Toronto. We got a pretty big
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one. His name is Carl Suban. He's the father of PK Su ban,
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but we're told there's a lot more
to the story, so we're here
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to find out. Carl, how
are you? Very good, very good.
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Thanks for having me. Happy to
have that. Yeah, our pleasure.
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You know, a lot of people
dream of having their kids in the
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in the National Hockey League, and
you have three kids that all made it
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to the pro level. Like just
touch on that experience first, beginning.
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Begin now really well, you know
I you know, we have the three
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boys, but I also have two
daughters to or educators, and you know,
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I don't mind saying that they continue
to make me look, you know,
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they make me look better than I
really am as a parent. You
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know what I mean. You know, all we can do is do the
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best that we can as parents and
hope for the best. And you know,
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so far my five children seemed,
they seem to be finding their way
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in life and and I've my fingers
are still cross, though. Hey,
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so far, so good. And
PK, you know, he just won
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a big awar there, the king
clancy. Did you get a chance to
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congratulate them on that? I'm sure
you did. Yeah, you know what
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I obviously I called them and and
and we talked about it just to let
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him know how proud I am.
And you know, and and I did
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say to him that, you know, this award, you know, tells
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me and so many others who he
is, that is more than just a
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hockey player and and it's so important
that that he is more than just a
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hockey player. Yeah, when on
the world needs more than hockey player,
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right? Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know, we just, I
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know the majority of US seahawckey and
we watch hockey or we play it and
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you know, but the world,
as we know, need more than just
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occuplayers. Yeah, one hundred percent. Like, if you look at the
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NHL PK probably is the main hockey
player that helps the community. He's always
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out. He's really well known for
that. So you did a really good
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job at here, son. Yes, well, you know what, I
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got to say that just because I've
been around hockey it from the grass roots
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to the pro level, and I
know so many players do so much and
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I know that the things that they're
doing to make our society better, to
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make our come here and is better, do not always make the headlines.
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You know what I mean. So
I remember when Pek went to Belleville and
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you know Marie and I, Maria
peak's mom, we know we can't take
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all the credit because that was built
into the program there, you know,
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community to work, community service.
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ice and there were learning about how
to be a difference maker in the community
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off the ice. So so it's
like, you know, the African problem.
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It takes a community to raise our
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proof of that, of course.
Yeah, I have. I had another
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question lined up about what you were
more proud of, the Norris or the
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king clancy, because one is such
a you know, his actual playing ability
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and the other is the impact that
his ability is allowed him to make.
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But you did a wonderful job answering
that question. I know that. My
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mom always said, you know,
the most sportsmen like trophy is never one
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to you know, stick your nose
out bad. It's just as important as
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the the production ones. Yeah,
yeah, you know, it's I remember
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when PK was younger and Malcolm and
Jordan to and and you know, I
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learned it as a parent. You're
always learning and growing, you know.
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And and so I learned this along
the way and it helped me a lot
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to deal with things that don't go
your way. That, you know,
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what's his main goal of playing hockey
since he was five or six. His
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goal was to play like those guys
on TV and eventually the be on TV
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play like them. And so he
made some teams, he didn't make other
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teams and here he is getting two
our wards. I am so happy for
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him and and, but I also
put everything in perspective. That that how
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lucky is to an unfortunate he is. And and I I I'll go back.
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I'll say this again that I'm very
happy that his skills are being recognized
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on the ice and the person he
is has been recognized for that off the
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ice. And I couldn't ask for
anything more other than a Stanley Cup.
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Yeah, yeah, there's one more
last there. Yeah, yeah, that's
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that we need. We need we
need to Stanley Cup. Hopefully he can
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grab one for your or maybe Malcolm
or maybe malcolmer and Jordan or maybe a
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neighbor or something. I don't yeah, tons opportunity. Well, you know
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what? My friend Chris Banko Stephen
is in the you know, they're they're
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playing and maybe, if they'll win
all, invite me over and because we're
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good friends, you'll probably hear this
is. It's Carl. You're always loved
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to ask, but I'm not going
to touch the cop you. That's what
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time? I'm sure you'll get you
a chance, I hope. Yeah,
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so we know that you have a
large history bag in, you know,
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Jamaica. But winded hockey come into
your life. Wow, it come in.
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It came into my life the moment
I started to live my better,
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to live my life in Canada,
because I came I was lost. I
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you know, I didn't like the
way the place was looking. I didn't
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like the way that I mean that
I looked, because I was so different
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than the kids I I saw pretty
outside on Peter Street and Stub Real Ontario,
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and then I heard them speaking and
I realize, odd, there's something
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going on here. There're speaking language. I didn't understand, or didn't know
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it. My parents told me what's
French. But you know, one day
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they invited me to play hockey with
them, those kids and Peter Street they
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could have turned on me, turned
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sorts of names. But you know
what, they didn't know my name.
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But they grabbed my attention and gave
me an invitation to play with them.
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And and so that's why hockey is
such a big part of my life,
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even before the NHL part. Yeah, it helped me with my integration into
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Canada. It gave me some new
friends, Gee and all the kids and
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Peter Street, all the Francophone kids. It gave me a new sport to
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play. I was used to playing
with the Cricket Bat. I was with
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a hockey stick. You A A
bit? Yeah, a bit, both
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made of wood and so and so. And I remember being a goalie because
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I when I played football back in
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goalie. So I knew that position. And then I knew about Ken Dryden.
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I saw him play with the Montreal
Canadians. You guys weren't born then,
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okay. So, yeah, I
remember watching him and I fell in
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love with the Canadians and can and
I want to be like him and I
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started holding my landlord son t hawk
is stick like it was a gold is
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stick. And and so the game
of hockey was came into my life and
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sort of gave me a life which
I'm still living today's. I like the
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way I just said that. Yeah, beautiful, yeah, polenic did they
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did they regret this invite? I
mean you must have been pretty good.
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Obviously there's some genetics there. Well, you know, you know, it's
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about always like sports, and I
encourage young people to find your passion.
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You know, your passion will help
to to give you your talent and build
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your talents and skills and so on. And sports was something that I was
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good at. You know, one
of the greatest thing we can give to
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young people is is this thing,
this mindset, that they know what they're
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good at. And so I knew
what I was good at. I was
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good at catching the ball. I
was good at hitting the ball because a
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baseball at school used to play lot
ball, baseball, whatever, three pitch,
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and I was so good because I
grew up playing cricket. Yeah,
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I had very good hand iy coordination
hitting the cricket ball. You know,
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cricket was my hockey in Jamaica,
you know. And and so so I
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learned a lot of skills through kick
it, cricket which which were transferable to
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hockey. You know, I was
in Ned. I could catch the ball.
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I'm on the baseball field. I
didn't mean a baseball glad. I
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just take it off, but I
saw the hey, yeah, you supposed
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to leave the gloves on. You
know what I mean. Don't hold the
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hawk. Is the like. It's
a cricket battle. Okay, but you
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know, so I knew what I
was good at, and and and so,
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yeah, you know, it's important
that kids know and I had those
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early skills which help me, help
me to make friends, gave me something
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to do. And Jeans, obviously
jeans is an important part of who we
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are. Our jeans are you know, they're not destiny, but they do
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shape us to a certain degree,
along with the environment that we're in.
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So I just can't believe you're talking
to Peksue Man's Dad. It's awesome,
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year, Ol, we got worries. I'll get it happens. Yeah,
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so go ahead. Yeah, what
I was saying is obviously just touched on
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your sporting career and you didn't really
bring it up, but you're obviously a
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basketball legend. Went to Lakelet lakehead
basketball, or you played in the lake
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at Basketball Teams Arey, you're there
leading scorer of all time. So just
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obviously your daughter got that too,
your basketball skills, because he's a leading
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scorer of your yeah, UN so. Yeah, well, I have to
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just correct the one part there.
Johnny's Anada, late Johnny's Anada. I
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played against him in high school.
He was my coach at Lake Head.
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I passed to him, I assisted. I assisted on his record breaking point
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to become lay kids all time leading
score. I played that lake it.
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I loved it. I mean,
you know, I worked really, really
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hard. I because I loved it
and that love made me work hard.
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I became better at it. I
had a dream to play in the NBA,
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but that dream made me discover something
about Carl that I didn't know,
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that I love working with children and
and and that process also told me that
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they love working with me. So
I became an educator. My daughter also
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play basketball, and and so Marie
and I we, you know, we
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used to just yeah, we taught
and shoot hoops and and then, you
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know what? The good thing was
that she fell in love with you know.
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Sometimes, you know, I remember
when the kids were younger, the
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greatest love was was being with mom
and dad. You know, even pkate,
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learning to skates and skate and my
daughters they skated before my son's Kate
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because they're older, because we skated
as a family and in in and they
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all loved being with mom and dad
and then eventually they started to love the
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basketball or to love the hockey.
I'm not saying more than they love mom
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and dad, but that's all.
It's sort of took off and we're lucky
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when kids find that thing they love
to do, parents love it because it
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becomes that parent that they need,
you know, that extra parent, I
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call it, that they need,
and it helped me with my parenting and
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help them with their you know,
in their lives moving forward. So you
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know, you know my daughter,
I played basketball and it was a big
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part of my life. I never
played hockey, but it was a big
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part of my life too, as
I explain to you how I started in
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the sport. And but the kids, you know, they and maybe I
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had a dream for them and then
they bought into that dream and made it
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their dream. So that's that's a
trick. If we can get them to
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to love something, whether or not
we love it or not, it just
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makes it parenting so much easier.
Right on. Yeah, I can imagine
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it's a free babysitter when there.
I practice. You know, it's true.
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I you know that. That is
so true. That is that is
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so true. And they're a lot
happier. And when children are learning new
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skills and and in the team environment, they're learning new friends, they're learning
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to work with with with different adults. You know, they're learning so many
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skills that they need. And Yeah, it's it is. Yeah, it
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is pretty good. It's a good
babysitting strategy to do it force. And
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you say you guys did a lot
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As the as the kids got older
and became, you know, more
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serious about the sports, I can
imagine the competition must have also increased as
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well. As how was that between
them? Yeah, like a you know,
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street hockey or you know, the
laps around got quicker. Yeah,
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the the you know, the the
most intense competition took place in the hallway
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with PK Malcolm and Jordan play Ministis. Okay, he always would come out
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on top. Okay, if he
would do whatever it is it's to win,
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but they're also moments where Malcolm was
in the basement in a he have
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his pads on. You go down
and and I don't know, he's making
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these imaginary saves. And I could
see pek sitting on the couch taping stick
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and I and there was Jordan emptying
the laundry basket. It's there by the
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front door, and either he made
a ball or he's using a ball that
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was found somewhere there. And and
he had really good hands. That's why
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they with George, had great hands, and so, you know, yeah,
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so that's what I saw. There
was this competition when they were playing,
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but there was also this internal drive
that that I really noticed and and
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I'm looking back now, I said, wow, you know, I never,
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you know, I never had to
turn the TV off because I never
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turned it never turned it was never
turned off, but I never had to
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turn it off because there they were
watching too much TV. But it was
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always on because they were busy doing
so many other things. Natasha was painting.
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For the most part, are drawing
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Tas was always reading our remember getting
rid of those goosebumps books. And so
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they're all doing their own little thing. They're all in in our in this
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big world or a home, but
they're all in their own little world within
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that big world, you know.
And and I could see how they were
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defining the young person that they would
become. Yeah, that must have been
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great to watch for sure. Well, I had a front rosie. Yeah,
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and you say Pek's and artist.
He's definitely turned into more of a
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public arsh with this, his fashion. He's a release some lines and stuff
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like that. What do you think
of him, you know, dipping his
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toes into the other categories? I
guess. Yeah, you know what,
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I go back to Belleville and George
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lot about hockey, lest less way. I was born in Jamaica. I
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came here twelve years of each what
did I know? And so and I
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didn't play minor hockey, I came
here too late and all that stuff.
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But and so when he went to
Belleville, you know you you had to
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look a certain way, you had
to dress a certain way, you had
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to speak a certain way. And
so that's why I said it take.
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It does take a village to help
raise her children. And then, you
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know, some players will will take
it beyond what it is and like PK.
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Fashion is a big part of you
know, he's being who he is
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and and that's really really important that
that, and I tell this the young
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people, be who you are.
You know, there's a wonderful quote.
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You know everyone else is taken.
So you might be yourself. If that
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is being a sharp dresser, go
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So so that's one thing, one
lesson that I've taken from peaks. A
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fact that you know he is.
He is who he is in the arena
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that he's in and and I think
when he goes to bed at night,
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I'm not in his skin and that
skating in his skates, but I know
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he's probably pretty happy he's doing what
he's doing and and he's able to operate
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within that arena that he is in. And sometimes, you know, he
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can feel there's a little bit of
pushing back and and and sometimes he's there's
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a head winds in the face of
this wind, but he just keeps going
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forward and and and maybe that's why
I got the Norris and maybe that's why
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he was able to be just got
this award here. He just keeps going
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and knowing who he is, knowing
what he stands for, and and and
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using so many resources around him.
You know, I always say to that
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he could be doing so many other
things with his time and money that I
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don't like. Yeah, big,
Oh, yeah. So, yeah,
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you wrote a book. Obviously it's
jam pack. So do you have a
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favor higher and got it on you. There you go. How we did
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it. Next, friends, do
ye, friend fans, check that out.
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Do you have a favorite story from
the book that you'd like to share?
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Maybe kind of putting me on the
spot. And No, I know
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they're there are many. Well,
you know what, they're many great stories
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in the book and and and and
really it's really not just to tell a
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story but to teach, to support
parents, to support educators as we work
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with young people the full fulfill their
potential. You know, one of the
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things I want people to take from
the book is is the fact that we
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need to help young people to to
realize your potential, you know, and
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that's why we parent, that's why
we, I really believe we coach them
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and and teach them is really helping
them to realize their potential. and to
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me that's a big takeaway from the
book. That what they're many, there
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many stories in the book and and
and from my earli years in in Jamaica
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to, you know, to the
point where PK became a household name.
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What is one particular story in the
book? You know, one of them
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is, you know, one of
them is just meeting Walter Gret Ski.
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There's a picture in there of,
you know, Carl Meeting Walter Gretzky,
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and and and and to me it's
not really a story, but it was
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a moment and I always reflect on
people call me the ultimate hockey death.
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Got Areas Right there, you know, the father of the great one,
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you know, but you know I
you know, there's so many stories that
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I can tell, from Carl suband
leaving Malcolm in Parry Sound. You know,
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we went to a tournament my dad. We're coming back from the PIC
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NICL tournament. I thought he was
still in the back of my truck sleeping
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and we were like ten minutes away. My phone was written. Some good
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thing. I answered my phone and
it was Malcolm says we're Malcolm was not
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there, you know. You Know
Malcolm in the middle. Malcolm was left
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behind verry sounded. Luckily there was
one of the down mills, the down
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mills team. I just pulled up. So the coach called me in and
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gave Malcolm his phone. So you
know, so that was that was you
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know that that was one of them. And and I told her the stories
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to you know, because you know, we get a lot of credit for
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Marie and I, you know,
for the hockey and and but and one
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hockey dad took it, took it
over the top here. You know,
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he wanted me to father a baby
with his wife. And so you guys
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are not you guys are all the
up. He thinks that I have the
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right jeans and so on, and
and you're asking me about jeans. But
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we know. I told him to
buy the book. By the way,
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let's go. There would be world
war. It is a true story.
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You know. It did approach me
and Carloway, you do me a favor.
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Go. What is it? Thinking
that he wanted some information about about
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shooting box or some says no,
I wanted to you know. I said,
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well, so I guess guarantee that's
going to work, but I hope
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he was just joking. I think
he was. Yeah, and my wife
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said to that he was joking.
Yeah, that's a bit of a strange
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request. Yeah, yeah, no
way there's a similar scene from Ted where
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they tried to do the same thing
with Tom Brady. I can imagine times
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across the mind. I'm sure maybe
they're read my book out of my story.
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It's a copyright here. Yeah,
so I mean that that's incredible by
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you. Obviously have to draw some
some comparison. There was a movie that
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just came out called King Richard,
about the father of the Williams sisters coming
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up. Yeah, so he had
a plan put in place before his kids
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were even born that they were going
to be such great stars and stuff.
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When did you and now I can't
imagine that's the case. That sounds a
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little looney to me. But when
did you realize that, you know,
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they have a real shot at turning, you know, sports into a career,
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not just as a way to you
know, to grow as a kid?
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you before that we skated as a
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family and the girls skated before the
boys. They weren't even you know,
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they started skating when the boys were
really young and they weren't even walking yet
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when the girls were skating. So
skating was something that we did and both
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my daughters helped to teach p came
outcome and Jordan out to skate and and
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then a good friend of mine,
Dave, been spot peak is for a
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setup hockey equipment and I remember sitting
there a Friday night trying to suit him
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up and it was like a puzzle. You know that you don't know being
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all that stuff. Where does this
go? You know? Anyway, I
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remember when Pek was young and and
I remember is five or six, playing
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in the Toby Coo bulldogs and I
remember this grandfather saying to me, and
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I guess a lot of parents might
hear this to he said he looks like
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a hockey player. I remember him
saying that. I remember, you know,
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he looks like a hockey player.
And and then it wasn't until Pek
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was drafted by the Bulls and I
remember at the First Training Camp George Burnett
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the coach, and GM and we
were the first family. Pek was the
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first player the camp be met with
and he first of all he asked and
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where did you learn to skate like
that? And then and then he said
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to him you're going to play at
least at the American league level. And
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I said, George, that's good
enough for being hand had so to be
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honest with you, that's coming from
George who had coached in the NHL,
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coach in the American League at a
lot of success. That's the first time
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that, because no one tells you
that in minor hockey, and they should.
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You know what I mean. And
so you know, and obviously as
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parents we have dreams, we have
a vision for them, but so you
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know it doesn't all those dreams and
visions are not always realize. But when
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George told me that, that was
the first time I had an indication that
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that you know what he might play, he might make it, because you'd
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hear is too slow, it's not
big enough, and you hear different things
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and it's so important that the message
of believing in your potential and people might
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look at you and they might not
like your size, but they're gonna love
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your heart when they see you working
out and playing, playing on the ice
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or playing on the field or playing
on the cord and and so it's really
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important that you'll have this growth mindset, that you know what, I can
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better, I can do better.
I'm I can be better. I know
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that I can be better over time. You know, even though these people
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think they know me, they don't
know me. They might know my height,
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they know my weight, but they
don't know the size of my heart.
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Gotta prove it to yourself, kind
of thing. Yeah, don't worry
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about it what other people are saying. Yeah, that should be the Buzzer,
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the table, the table bus.
Okay, I got it. Yeah,
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I got it. You coined it. You guys laugh. I'm sure
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as a principal, you got all
the inspirational lines. How the quotes?
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Yeah, you know what, it's
leaders inspired and and kids need this.
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The young people today are students.
They need me to be more than just
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a principle. They need me to
be a source of inspiration. You'll on
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people, today's students today. They
don't need you to be a teacher,
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they need you to be a difference
maker and so and so. Yeah,
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we I look for ways to inspire
them daily, you know, whether it's
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by sharing a quote or telling US
story to make a point, just to
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get them to do more, get
them to continue to work, to be
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more and to become more, because, you know, our young people have
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been through a lot over the last
two years. They've been locked out,
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they've been locked in, they've been
locked out in and locked down and now
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I think they need a lot of
inspiration and and so that's what I try
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to do every day whenever I'm speaking
to a young person. I want to
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say something to them that will inspire
them to want to realize their potential.
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Yeah, that's above and beyond the
job description, for sure. That's yeah,
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well, they need us to go
above and beyond. Course, showing
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up is not enough. Yeah,
you know, you got to show up,
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put on your equipment, get the
game and and go fight right fist
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bite, but you know what I
mean. Yeah, yeah, you know,
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we you know, I was thinking
the other day about these three words
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fear, faith and fight. The
fear and and and how the pandemic has
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made all of us so fearful of
our health and of our futures and our
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opportunities. But, you know,
thank God we have faith, you know,
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and and and and hope. And
now the fight is the is the
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work we got to do, and
sometimes we have to fight through a lot.
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You know, look at the condition
of the world today, and most
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of all the news is bad,
and so we have to fight through that
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and and and and fight through failure
and fight through mistakes and fight through those
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things. That kids are being exposed
on social media. So, yeah,
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let's work through those fear. Let's
use our faith in our abilities, faith
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of the future. What's going to
happen, being hopeful and get ready to
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fight. That's that sounds like possibly
the mindset that your your parents had whenever
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they moved here. Is that maybe
where that stems from? What was it
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like whenever, you know, looking
up to them as they were going through
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a tough time immigrating to Canada?
Wow, you know, my parents came
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here at thirty years of age and
start over. They started over. Can
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you imagine moving to a new place
and starting over at thirty, you know,
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and so, you know, they
had hopes. I'm quite sure they
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had some fear, because I still
remember the people who help them navigate this.
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You know, the things they had
to navigate. Yeah, you know,
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winter clothing on, getting a doctor
and stuff like that. I remember
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some of their friends in Sudbury,
Madam Little Dasty you know, she gave
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me Spaghetti for the first time,
you know, and and she helped my
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families so much and probably that that
probably reduce some of the fear. And
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you know, and my parents are
probably a lot of faith. They had
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a lot of faith that they would
make it in their abilities. My mom
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was a seamstress and she went back
to school and an educate herself to become
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to become a lab technician, and
and and and so and my dad was
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a diesel mechanic learning straight in Jamaica. And and and I'm quite sure they
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were fighting every day to make a
better life. And so we learned a
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lot from them. They're my heroes. You know. Their story tells me
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that I can make it. They
story tells me that, you know,
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I can work through change, you
know. And so and their story tells
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me to not to give up.
And how could it not? Right?
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Yeah, it's an amazing story.
Couldn't imagine switching it all over, like
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me move into another country. I'm
not even thirty yet, but when I'm
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imagine, yeah, yeah, let
alone bringing the family with you. And
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Yeah, have you support more than
just yourself to that's yeah, mind bolt.
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Remember and know we had we didn't
have Google or cell phone, right.
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Yeah, yeah, you wouldn't.
Couldn't figure out. You'd have to
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figure out on your own where all
the stores are and stuff like right now,
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we just moved to Toronto. I'd
be putting it on my phone.
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Take my phone takes me right to
it. Yeah, let alone. And
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we had a place to live.
Whenever we got here, they would have
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just been showing up. You know. Now you got to find it when
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you're right with boots on the ground. Yeah, and we moved here like
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my uncle in subric my dad's brother
had sponsors. That's so we live them
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with for a while and then we
moved to Peter Street. My uncle was
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leslie and they lived on Lessli Street
and then we lived on and Peter Street,
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which is now mountain street, and
the House is still there, two
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hundred and ninety three Peter Street.
You can google this right there. It's,
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you know, rectangular shape. House
still looks the same and our apartments
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in the second forty conside the windows. I was looking through those windows out
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onto Peter Street and when I saw
this place I said no, I want
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to go I want to go back
to Jamaica. When I saw the kids,
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I've never I'M NOT gonna go out
there play with them, but don't
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look like yeah, but those same
kids helped me to live my life I
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never saw myself living. Yeah,
that's amazing. Yeah, that's a popular
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word, but the story is quite
incredible. Yeah, well, what are
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we doing for time? Yeah,
yes, our meetings going to end in
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four minutes on the old zoom,
so we might have to wrap it up.
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Yeah, I have. You're awesome, like this is a really this
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is an ideo podcast for us,
get us laugh and yeah, yeah,
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no, you know what, happy
to do it. And I love your
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title, Table Buzz and I know. So hopefully I've said enough that will
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cause a buzz. Tables buzzing.
That you were yeah, able is buzzing.
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And I want to say good luck
to both of you as you continue
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to realize your potential. And so
I'm sixty three and I'm still realizing it
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and you got both of you are
lot younger, and I wish you the
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very best here in your new home, in a new place, and I
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wish you all the best as you
guys move forward, and that means so
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much. You. Thank you for
everything really coming on here. Thank you
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for that message, thank you for
liking the name and thank you for raising
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some unreal kids. Yeah, well, you know, I thank you for
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that and and every day I thank
the village. Do you know? I
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never forget to thank the village and
you guys should invite me back in September,
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October, because I have my second
book coming out. Oh, okay,
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but calls, okay, skates in
a box. So you imagination's going
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to run wild. Yeah, perfectly. Not to come on and read it
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and talk about it and why I
have written it. So that would cause
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another Bush. I know for sure. I'll send one to you guys in
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advance. Okay, we can have
will all read it on your ill read
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little bit on your and your show. Yeah, we get all the kids
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watching them. Hot have be awesome. Ye, they'll say, push over
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mom, push over the here.
Yeah, let's let's hear this story about
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skates in a box, right on, all right. Well, we'll see
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you then. Yeah, all right, okay, sounds good. All right,
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I enjoyed the summer. Thanks you, all right, thank you.
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Save you, guys.
