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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Wrapperate off podcast. Elliot. Yeah, this is a video man video. I feel like the young guns in your No Better Love video. The Asked Lord movement has finally been answering. Man, we are. This is gonna be Wrapperate our podcasts. This is a video edition special on the Interval Presents YouTube channel where we are in a great state of Utah talking to the most prolific artists in the game, one of the most streamed artists NBA. Young boy, he invited us. Can't you believe it? Exclusive conversation man, shout out the bill what they did that thing? But it's about for him sitting down with the culture and really let them not to mind state he's into right now and I'm excited, man, You're ready to get in there. Excited. I've never been a Utah man. I never met young boys, so this is gonna be exciting experience. You know it's your Boy'll get scared. That young boy has a lot of fans. Man, they're gonna be watching this. Man. We gotta do a good job right well, cold out here, let's go heat up inside. Man, Let's do it. Let's get into it. Man, rapperate our podcast. You Hey, man, when are you taught for the man himself? Man, young boy, how are you doing sir? Cool? Thank you for having us, man, thank you for coming. Absolutely man, this is a beautiful place. Man. I mean, you know, I just feel like, you know, people can say, well, this is a trial scheep relation you gotta do with, but I think you made the best of it. Like it just feels like this home just feels very like you know, warm and just like like adult adult place. Like can you talk about why this is like work to work for you as like your home? Right now? It's just peaceful. Too many people too, ain't too much study to get off into. That's a hell of a view right there, right there. It's a long way from a jay apartments right for sure, sure where you said the build, but like just being out here, it's like the best thing that ever happened to you you, right. You love the serenity and just the peacefulness of it. How it like the weather too, You're like the cold weather because it be all where you're from and bat Rouge doesn't get snow and stuff like that. I don't really like it as much like I really used to. I just like difference, right, So all the places in America you had to choose. He chose you talk right. Did you feel like it was it like an adjustment for you like when you first came out here. No, because I wouldn't already looking to fit in or to get off until then. I just wanted someone to go far from back Rouge? Do you miss band Rodge a little bit? As far as music goes? Like? Do you how have you been? Like? How's the process been different? Like working out here than back home? I don't know. I really just to go out the moment that I mean, I think I think the music would be better though if I was just out moving around, experiencing, experiencing more about man. I still he's still a sun. Got you? What way you turn it up on your neighbors? Man with that black video? Create a party out here? I had actually eked the neighbor. I asked one of my neighbors. I should have asked the other window. It was just some creative. It was broke to me. Are the neighbors nice out here? They're cool? Down't bother me because you're definitely like you just haven't at all ventured out, like you pretty much stay on your home base at all times and the cars ain't been touched. You got like an amazing car collection. They're just sitting in the garage. Yeah, I don't really know the neighborhood looking. But about you know, you know it's like to get here, it's a lot of restrictions, right, But what about your family? Is it? You know, is it easier for them to come see you and visit you and your friends? And how think you gotta go through the same the same procedure. Yeah, but you build a whole new foundation and you resually got married and you know as to like one inspired that to like settle down that way and get married and moving that direction I always wanted to and the women i'm week maybe actually want to rich. That's how it works, brother, That's how it works. You gotta get the right one. That's how it works. Did you do like a like limited with in the home movie? You did you do like a big kind of ceremony kind of thing or just get a little low key, little key you had the kids involved too, Okay, And the previous time, if you are saw um you did with like Angela, you said that you know you never felt that kind of love, you know from your grandmother. Did you feel like your partner gave you that, um fill that void for you? I feel like she's doing that for me. Do you think that that's because you know, obviously you've sort of not being really reflective of like the kind of music you make and the content you make and you know your responsibility to that. Do you think that sort of like having that stability at home is also a factor in that of how you're viewing things right now as you grow, like the fact that you know you talked about you know, maybe looking at the violence you're put in the music and making maybe wanting to make some changes with that. Right. Do you think that you're having a sort of stable home life now with a new wife and and being this great position. Does that connect to that in a lot of ways and impact you? Yeah? I think so. I think he has some then, do it? I really to be looking at other like young dudes, Like some people I'll be telling and I'll be like, oh, you know, it's really bad, bad, I'm still talking with talk. But I think I'm just white, do it though? Yeah? I don't even had no limit at first? Really we didn't notice. Yeah, but's it's funny the bitboard thing. You said that very interest story. You said pretty much a lot of it was you know, you know, there's a beautiful picture of your grandma right here in the home, and you know, we know how important she was to you and you you so you told a story about being the group home and then you know, so you were getting sort of bullied and stuff. You said that kind of like unleased the beast, right like that sort of show. You know a lot of times people end up moving a certain ways because they've been like impacted, you know, a certain way, right like, and that that's sort of unleased the fire inside of you. Then maybe you didn't even fully know you had, right, Yeah, there's another story though, do you listen to some of the old material or your old stuff not really put out so much new material? I mean, I guess you don't have the time, right. It's also crazy to be the dichotomy of like how you know, so I've spoken you are and then when you hear those especially those early records, just how fired up you are on the booth, Like was what was those sessions? Like that? You think that's another side of you that just kind of comes out when it's time to record. Oh no, there's like and the things that my mind that's like the mode is what I'm feeling. This is what I venture all too. Yeah, last year, man, you dropped eight albums, So that's crazy. I think that's the most you ever released. Like, was that your plan to flood the market like that? Not exactly. I think I had got like two certain number of tapes that had dropped in and I was just like, I'm gonna try to reach ten. So what was you what was your mind state with that? That run? You know, you left Atlantic Records, but you went on a crazy run with them for a long time and it seemed like, you know, people are saying, well, you you only obligated to do a certain amount of albums, but you over delivered, right, You gave them so many projects, Like can you talk about your mind state with that? There's just me Oh that's like just my m hm. It wasn't like a favor when it wouldn't just planned. I just dropped music. It brings some type of good feeling to put a tape together and just released. What made you leave Atlantic and wanted this new situation here at Motown because I wanted to experience some more stuff, you know, just trust something new, see if I can get more out of label situation, motown it's just came about. But then I actually just my specific label with each tape I got, I could go anywhere on the university. I don't want to go and drop your projects. Okay, that's wow, that's a that's the hell of it. That's what happens when you have the catalog that young boy has, Right, So you wanted that versatility in the sense, I guess right with the arrest of my case, even though like subject matter, to me, it sounds like the album focused a lot of on love, right, and then you got like these skit sandwiches in between, like top girls, top haters, the love be skit. Do you feel like those are real conversations people have when it comes to you and your music. I think so, really, I think those kids come very close to the conversations. So you like you're tapped in you I'm sure like you follow what's going on online for people saying the streets about why I be like, you're not just oblivious to I see a lot of and I do see a lot of ship. It's a lot I don't see neither because I ain't really I see a lot though, Yeah, you see a lot. You're definitely tapped in also said that was I'll be you almost want to challenge you know, you're not afraid to challenge your audience, right, Like it's a little bit of a different sound for your Like I see people talking about raging music and these sort of terms, like what do you think of that? Is that? Was that your intent with the music this time to be a little different of how you were putting this project together, Just trying to reach a different audience mykond of music that make it easy to me. It's I easy to sit there and do it literally, so I don't want to try something when you say that style of music, what do you mean by that? Just to sort of like the sound my fans know me to have. So but you're not afraid to experiment like on the rest of my case, because you know there's a lot of different a lot of different sounds, Like it's just a different departure from what people used to You also challenge the aesthetic, like people saying, well face it was in face paytent, doing your nails, painting your nails and doing these different sort of style, things like what's what's inspired that to do those different things too? The nails came out of the face. I was just playing with my face and I actually liked it. You should track I'm saying I got a checked with the wife, but with it. But that's the thing too, Like you said, you when you when um you and your wife that you to that sort of the style of it and doing it together addressed in a certain way of times. Right, it's not just you yourself, but also in the relationship. She's having fun. Do you know it's funny like when I was listening to my guy a family you know, you had that one track control talk and he said, like, you think the rap game is slowly fading away because of fans expectations, Right, do you still feel that way? I think people expect too much of this ship entertainment right at the end of the day, right, you know, some people get caught up inside of it and they actually get they so fucked up buff But it's all entertainment at the end of the day. And it's like, you know, they had a favorite rapper and this person funk around and do something like just s your flow that he had or like oh he faked, So they go to the Knicks Rapper. Then they see the Knicks rapper. This is my human too, this name got some type of flow too, So then they go to the Knicks. Way is that she's gonna get old? The whole thing? Don't getting phony to me? Do you feel like fans don't have that loyalty to the artists, like how they used to back into day. I'll try not to get into it because I know how fair to the change, right, you know, like you got your support us, but they'll flip on your quick like you do that went wrong? Right? I can't get that bad comment from them too, right, So your fans are sticking by you man Like, According to Illuminate in two thousand and twenty two, you're the third most streamed artists in United States, right behind like Drake and Taylor Swift? Man, Like, what do you credit to your success? So much more to be done? I already I don't not explain. I already feel like nothing been done? Really, Wow, you still feel like you're just never satisfied, right, But it's just it's a lot more to be done. But do you get do you draw any motivation from how much your music does resonate, Like if you did it and the numbers weren't as big, would it, would you still be as motivated as the success and the numbers, and that I know how big you are. Does that continue to motivate you to put our projects, having a point, approve, to be having something to say, m not just be to wake up like three in the morning or some ship and just record myself. Is this therapy? Mm hmmm? Still to this day it's the same way. Just someone I remember talking with you for title a little while back, and he was and I was trying to I was trying to get you to like get competitive and say, you know, it is your name in the ring with these people. But but but I think it's interesting about your success is that you don't look like you're really competing, Like you've always had your own lane, you know what I'm saying, Like it's not about like these rapper lists or who's number one, these kind of things other than the numbers itself, like something like you take pride in like you're not really competing with people. You've kind of carved out your own lane and what you do. Is that fair to say? Yeah, I don't think that kids compete. I think I lose really how to play the game. I just go, yeah, like I ain't never really like he no type of structure. I just go, are you evening this time to drop to pick the songs out of magic? I don't know. Man, then was in the stats saying do you want that accolade? That like what you said? Like you you obviously know you even influenced the whole generation and influence so many other rappers, Like you know you'll hear big names like a Draker Cole Kendrick from another generation, like you know for your generation, do you want your name to be said like, oh you know I got that from young Boy or young Boy was what I was always bumping and what I was listening to. That's what inspired me. Just I just won't be paid. Ohn't know, but I think this whole music thing like if it is, like it's all ignorance. M I just don't want to be paid. I don't care about it. That's how you just success. It's just with the monetary, with the money business business. Yeah, you're still out the way right, How have you got no steps? Like? I guess part of I guess moving from Atlanta Motown and where you are now, Like, what do you think of some of the key things you've done, is sort of like put your business in a better place that you that you feel more comfortable, like you feel like you're getting your value and out here terms of what you create. What were some key moves you made to kind of put yourself in a better position. Oh, look at it. They would't need And I still don't feel like I didn't need to because it's like, no matter what I've gotten from someone, like, it's somebody, Like, no matter if I got to two dollars, it's actually somebody in making vote off my creation. So until I get the business down, pick like to what I like, I built my own team, Like I don't need no label, Like this whole system is what I'm built, and this is all I need to get everything on from out of it. I'd be cool, but I don't feel like I did then no difference told you are aboutle to get like more ownership, like get your masters and get your situations like that every dime, say I want every time? Then my creation brain, Yeah, I want every time. I remember that freestyle you did over the story of O J and you said that you had a percentage and United Masters. Yeah. Yeah, oh so you had like conversations with Steve Stout and yeah I talked to him before. Okay, I actually even understand what's going on to business right now. I need to check on what thing to look after, make sure right checks and balances. You know, you know, your boy, we've been through like the blog era, We've been through like the SoundCloud era, and you know, like you're like the king of YouTube, right, So, like when did you realize like that platform was like the best place for you to get your music out? I think I just realized that recently, but I always was YouTube. You just you ain't gotta go through those steps to upload it and get your music out there. You just press over this, you go out right then and there. I said, if you guys in and say, you know you gotta wait days into this whole situation over wait for the doing you now, you could answer right then, less clearances to like samples and yeah YouTube, just quicker. It seems like you're not the type of person to hold any music back, Like is that driving the label crazy? I do got a lot of music I don't drop though, Okay, I do drop a lot of music too. I don't really know how to been this side of that beat going. M. I don't really come at me with it on the business side too. Man. You know a lot of these artists, you know, make their bread and butt on the road. But you know, being that you here, you know, you haven't really been hitting the stage, you know, in a while, Like do you miss that element of the game is performing touring? It'll be fun to do, but I ain't sucked up about it. You remember the last show you did that was in Florida? Song? Like, how do you even approach the set list? Because you have so many records? Like it's like you know, and also that you're not defined by like one record. You know some artists like we just played that one record, we know that's their hit, Like you do you probably yourself on that that you're not known just for like one record, Like you just just go out the previous songs I released just TK somebody around me. M M, just let it be, oh, just whatever the current project is. Yeah, Like for the show sit, I just go after him the previous songs are released, M, what do I know they're gonna want to hear for a show. What are some of those like, what's like free essential from your humble opinion? What's free essential songs from your catalog? This you know, like a kind of everlasting to your fans that they want to hear if they saw you live valuable pain outside today it was some ship like this slime belief thirty eight baby. That's my next question, what's what's your top three projects? What's your top three projects? You think you put out? I think the baby too, top mind? Got a family, DJ drama even with drama? What made you go to do the dramas? Gangster Girl's name with that man? What made you reach out? You just used to drama voice coming across a lot of tapes like you as a kid or some ship that ship is like just dripped inside your mind? Right, get a host food and asked me who ask my drama? Growing up? You know you said your mom was always inspiration. You know she used to wrap as well. You had it on thirty eight Baby Part two? Um, what other rappers did you look up to growing up or listen to when he was a kid, like just local artists? Okay, find mistake speaking on on the parental front though I know your dad. You know he's locked up right now. There's a song dedicated Hey Pops and the rest of my case. Uh did you play that for him? Or does he know about that? Or I don't know if you know, but I ain't play. I ain't playing for him. This bird you to make that song going off comments, you know, just like just just want to he think about all of this ship? Yeah, like ship that other people have something miss y about that way you think about then as it went from to the studio from now, I like how you opened that record, you said like, hey Pop, you're proud of me. You feel like you might be proud of you at this point. Yeah, I think you proud. I don't think he got none against none of this ship. I think he proud. I was really proud of that moment that you did on Tyl of the Aids album as well. Man, you shocked a lot of people on that with that collaboration, for sure, but you didn't shocked him about it. I didn't think people were expecting that you could get busy like that, you know. I think they just told you in one lane and then we heard you on Tyler's album, was like WHOA Okay, NBA and you know Tyler, they funk with each other and it was definitely a hit. It was a winner. How did that come together? I really don't remember, because, unfortunately, think when it came out to you, you was locked up. You couldn't be part of the video or stuff like that at the time, right, I think I just remember meeting him. I don't remember how it happened though, And I don't think I did that song right then. And I was like, as I met him, I think that song was sent sent to me. But you killed it and killed it man. You also killed it with Nicki Minaj and I admitted you did a video for that one. What was it like working with her? It was nice. He got a couple of those, got a couple of those with nick a couple of joys. That's the thing. You don't mess a lot of oppers. But when you have, when do the collaborations. I was talking about that with you before. You have a lot of dope features like the Negos needed joining um you in future with the trillion their joint like a lot of times, like you're very selective, right, Like you don't you don't play nights with a lot of rappers like you very selective of who you work with. But it seems like when you decide to do it, you know the results are there either getting funny and tricky when you get to working with artists trying to work with yeah, they ain't getting weird? Do you like, well, who are you going to work with? Because I know, I'm sure you get asked all the time, right it's for like to do a soon Yeah yeah, but you can, man, you can't pay me on me and do no song like it don't work like that. You got to actually feel the artists and the feel the get to know the person, right, Yeah, it's like sometimes I just want to have a conversation first just to see like what type of man you go? Right? Like, ah, way the same kind or something. He was very revealing to a different aspect of that when the But but then what you're saying, how like you don't you don't necessarily trust people, right, Like you're very You're very you know, protective and guarded in terms of like you know people like you said, people can't be cruel, right, everybody may I have the best intentions, like that must be tough. Then you know, the music industry is kind of built on a lot of that, right, like a lot of that. You know, not a lot of good characters out here in this space. So does that make it even more challenging to like maneuver in this business? But I just don't like people period though yet have you always been this way or just kind of like being this business is just conditioning? Oh it's been okay. I think this business made it worse. Did you have conversations with take off in Quavo because you're on the un Confused project too to the Bone, probably to get in on that record. I think Kuavo sent me the song. Okay, they came out here to do the video, but I think something happened and they had me in a fuck the move so he counsel the video. I regret it though. It's okay though it feels like, Um, you have a real good connection with Burt Man. You know, guys done some projects together. Five Yeah, my fire. He's a good guy. How's your relationship blossom throughout the years? Just dude crazy Like, um, he's just talk a lot of ship and I just like to sit down, my fire. I like when he popped this ship man. Yeah, Beatris he's been on the fucking Nigger too. That's the same type of time. Yeah, yeah about it. What is it difference because you know he's from New Orleans and you from be all like, is there still like a connection or is it like a Yeah, you know a lot of ship that's like going on and br you know, a lot of ship stem from New Orleans. You know, that's like where the real gangsters come from. That's what a lot she got blooded in first. It's kind of like when we learned a lot of ship from m M. It's a connection, though, what do you think that is about Louise Siana? Like, what is it? What does it breathe like that that stay? I think Aluisions is different. Bro mm hmm. No matter where you Louisiana, they're gonna stand up. And it's also something in the blood man Louisiana. You guys, you know you have masterp got the cash. Money is the Birdman's of the world, and you you even kind of taking up of that stance with your crew that never broke again crew. You guys put the compilation talk about those guys and what makes them so dope? It makes them dopey. My brothers like you said, want to send me as something and this is actually pressure. Yeah, like that's really my brother rapping. It's like, I don't think a lot of them wanta rap. I think it's just something then the group into right now and that a select few feel like they can make it. I think it's just something fun right now that everybody getting into right hand is free money right a podcast? That should be that I stayed selling people like yeah, you know what face the people give you like this a million dollars or two hundred dollars just to sign you, like anybody a deal today, m and then everybody wrop So it's just free money. Has your relationship with money changed? What you mean? Like I remember one of the songs you talked about how like you've spent ten million dollars on taxes. That's like not being educated. I know what the funk going on? And I spend my money right just having a double back and pay another work reckon. You say you had like twenty five million before the deal and you came back and five with a lot of big numbers, young boy, I don't ready then to spend money on So I don't ready spend money like that. I don't really happening. I won't you know my mindset, I just be want to make money so my wife could buy anything. She won't happy wife, happy life. Yeah, I had my fun. He's still young though, you know, so you gotta financial advising now. She don't look like she's messing around, which with the young voice situation, I think she'd be on top. But so does she make you do like investments and stocks and these kind of things, or should be having me off from two? A lot of this ship whatever, it's supposed to be kind of foul Healy with a lot of that stuff. But trust our judgment, may not trust no mad because Burnman give you like pointers to you know when it comes to financial literacy and things like that. Oh, well, we're to talk about many Burnman doesn't talk about money. We we'll be talking about like some ship that we like thinking about putting off, but as far as like just money, like, well, don't sit that talking about money. Okay. I heard that you guys are working on a movie too, Ball of Blocking Part two, So that's happening. Wow, did you see the original? Yeah? You like have hell? Yeah? Classic classic come out Classic? You watched the classic bushing absolutely, did you have to like take acting classes? Like how was your acting? That's a no from your boy, that's a big shoes to feel man like, you know, from following up that classic so hell yeah, man, I think it means a lot, you know, to the world, but specifically to New Orleans and Louisiana. You know. I think that's you know, it's a cultural moment. I'm looking forward to seeing you in it. I'm looking forward to standing myself. It's all done. Okay, we started, you started. Okay, you're also starting to stop the violence campaign. Man. I like this. I like this direction that you're going into. Young boy, can you talk about that initiative? Yeah? Yeah, man, that ship, thank you, just get out of getting out of hand. It's a lot of like pitch niggers, like starting to dealings with a lot of ship man. You know. I usually some times would be like two gangsters like just litlely at the eight to the nick and I like they got real life bitches. That's provoked, provoking and like just manipulating people. And I don't like it. I ain't cool. I ain't cool. It is right, my bitch. As ship going in the day, this bullshit, bro, you just ain't feeling it. Stop the vibes right. If you do something, just make sure he got a very good meaning, like the right reason. But do something with intention. Yeah, it seems like people just want to do things for cloud as. They say they got babies killing babies ship. Yeah, but they niggas that sixth thing to walk up on you and suit you down. Ship backles, But you gotta think about it's another bit to his niggah provoking his young nigga to walk up on you and hit you with this bitch though, just because he ain't he ain't really cut like that. He's soul walk up on you and just spank you right here, so you don't tap young you know Yang, it ain't got no man, you know Yang from from the poppy in front every back. No, Yeah, this ship just backwards, like being taken advantage of. Yeah, my gangster ship going on a lot of Pulson ship getting ready to tell on each other too. So you feel like like, you know, even back home, do you feel like a responsibility You want to help some of those youths back and back rude shout, I won't help to youth anywhere anywhere Okay, it's all about to understanding. I think, like what a lot of the youth once you like just actually see or just get that belief of knowing when you actually can go or just come in contact with half. I think that's when you just try to see it clip. When did you realize that you start to have this impact on like the youth culture? Was there a moment specifically? This ship just come from somebody saying, Oh, they're listen to you if you say this, right, you know what I'm mean bed to say? So I see it. M I hope they'll listen to me. Yeah, And like you said, this isn't like you're trying to clean all every single lyric Like you're just you're doing the best you can do. But yeah, but more intentional in terms of like you know, it's more like gun violence and things like that. That that type of talk unless it's warranted in a sense, right, Yeah, that conversation with bill Boy, you said, you're not going back to who you used to be? Who was that? Who was that person? I said that about that person? I just ain't the right person, not the right person to bet It ain't some what I don't know. It's like over here, things like you just accomplished that, like just being given, like you'll be a damned food if you stay the same like right yeah, then like if you have to like get off houser this and like to go back to the north side of something like post the video big gun on Me or something. I did all this to make it from this. I totally guns and did all these ships to make it from right here. Just to come back with all these money and do the same thing that's hustling backwards. You definitely got it. You got your head straight on right man, because people, you know, they go back to this environment where it's, like you said, hustling backwards doesn't make sense. I think I heard the next album is don't try to sit home? Is that true? Don't try to sit home. Don't try this at home. Okay, I'm gonna talk crazy on that. I'm gonna talk crazy on that, but I'm letting you know though, don't try this at home. Don't try it's all entertainment, bro. I'm gonna talk my ship and everything I told him, and you know, don't try this at home. You feel like it's a thin line between like reality and entertainment. And sometimes people don't can't diffrigate entertainment and reality. It is very different what I do think some of the entertainments and make they enter terment theory reality. Also if I said that, right, no you did, No, Like, don't get me on to like a lot of people you will see today, Oh that's a hundred percent what they is. I don't. I don't doubt it, like a lot of rappers today, like man, but I'm probably a hundred percent what they is. But I guarantee, Bro, I'm gonna joy nah man and be like this. Bro, you're looking at all the rappers videos. You're gonna see a gun in his video? Right you go to the next one. He got a gun in his video, right, Man, you gotta diggle it deeper sometime, Bro, I am not looking at his mama. His mama, you know, gangster? So how the funck is he a gangster? That ship gonna be adding up, Bro, don't try to say don't. I don't try. It's entertainment. So as far as like the sound of that, you know it's going to be a departure from where I rest. My cases is gonna you say, you're talking your ship, But sonically, Like what producers are you working with? Like, I ain't pay attention to who did all the beats? I know the rock for show, but I recall it all by myself, So you's engineered by yourself too. Yeah, just sitting up recording myself. No wait until I got up a mount the right amount of songs, Like I'm ready. Is there a wish list of producers that you want to work with? Nobody? What about like, uh, maybe other artists less features on this recent albums too, right, let's features? That's like that being a moment too. I didn't want to work with people in the moment. There's some people that I wasn't expecting. Like I saw you and Kalani through the record together. I was like, Okay, I think that was cool. You know you do work well with other is in the right scenario. So looking forward to that before the end of the year, I know we got this project. I know you're gonna are you gonna beats more? How many more? After that eight last year? I ain't gonna beat las. Yeah that's just because I want to. I want to know how to structure that ship. But okay, just have a plan with each drop. But how you feel bad. You're gonna be doing more pressive ship. It's about it. It's gonna be the last one with you. You know, I feel good. I appreciate you all say this. Feel good. Yeah, he come and talk to him. Absolutely. I think it was super insightful. Man. You know, don't think it's important. You know, like you said, the impact you have on the game for you just share your thoughts on what youmans, how it he is. You know, I think it's important you know your lead out here in the space. I don't want to be responsible though. Yeah, so I don't really want to be the matter role. Mother. You look at more yourself just as entertainer, just trying to feature kids. Think he had that kind of mentality too, boy, because at one point, man, this really was my life. Man, whatever you really come out, my mother would say that actually went down yesterday, or that went down that's weak fine insiderday and not like nah, it's entertainment, it's what it's feeling. Do you feel blessed that you survived it like that? Ships? Man ain't got people that I love to this day, Like who's still stay in the hood up who don't know what they're gonna eat it from the wake up and go to work. Like ship could be so much worse. I got birds right now, Like who the world known me to be around that nigg probably trying to figure out how you're fe to get some money before the day. She could be way worse. Gont we're here in Utah. But whenever you are back home, what's it like the energy? Like the people just went up on you and hands out. They ain't never really seen m probably do no no mather products see me from ben realtion. Think they see a coast or some ship. So it's like a myth. Yeah, they never really saw me. I ain't never really performed I needed, so it's definitely a demand. Yeah, every time I went back though, only thing I can remember right now, it's just ship. What are we from the postal bit? The duck and just during in you you're making sure every call you know that put on side you'll stick hanging out that bitture. That's all it really is when you do what we from the what we're from the postal bit, right, and it's it just watching yourself in time. So when you do come back home, whenever you decide to be a big homecoming, and you don't plan on going Bag, Yeah, to visit fron Off from there, I don't plan on going BAG. I mean, it's not too many rappers that's doing it big in Utah, So I think you have a whole state a lot. Appreciate you, young boy, Thank you, brother, I appreciate you. Thanks. 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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Wrapperate off podcast. Elliot. Yeah, this is a video man video. I feel like the young guns in your No Better Love video. The Asked Lord movement has finally been answering. Man, we are. This is gonna be Wrapperate our podcasts. This is a video edition special on the Interval Presents YouTube channel where we are in a great state of Utah talking to the most prolific artists in the game, one of the most streamed artists NBA. Young boy, he invited us. Can't you believe it? Exclusive conversation man, shout out the bill what they did that thing? But it's about for him sitting down with the culture and really let them not to mind state he's into right now and I'm excited, man, You're ready to get in there. Excited. I've never been a Utah man. I never met young boys, so this is gonna be exciting experience. You know it's your Boy'll get scared. That young boy has a lot of fans. Man, they're gonna be watching this. Man. We gotta do a good job right well, cold out here, let's go heat up inside. Man, Let's do it. Let's get into it. Man, rapperate our podcast. You Hey, man, when are you taught for the man himself? Man, young boy, how are you doing sir? Cool? Thank you for having us, man, thank you for coming. Absolutely man, this is a beautiful place. Man. I mean, you know, I just feel like, you know, people can say, well, this is a trial scheep relation you gotta do with, but I think you made the best of it. Like it just feels like this home just feels very like you know, warm and just like like adult adult place. Like can you talk about why this is like work to work for you as like your home? Right now? It's just peaceful. Too many people too, ain't too much study to get off into. That's a hell of a view right there, right there. It's a long way from a jay apartments right for sure, sure where you said the build, but like just being out here, it's like the best thing that ever happened to you you, right. You love the serenity and just the peacefulness of it. How it like the weather too, You're like the cold weather because it be all where you're from and bat Rouge doesn't get snow and stuff like that. I don't really like it as much like I really used to. I just like difference, right, So all the places in America you had to choose. He chose you talk right. Did you feel like it was it like an adjustment for you like when you first came out here. No, because I wouldn't already looking to fit in or to get off until then. I just wanted someone to go far from back Rouge? Do you miss band Rodge a little bit? As far as music goes? Like? Do you how have you been? Like? How's the process been different? Like working out here than back home? I don't know. I really just to go out the moment that I mean, I think I think the music would be better though if I was just out moving around, experiencing, experiencing more about man. I still he's still a sun. Got you? What way you turn it up on your neighbors? Man with that black video? Create a party out here? I had actually eked the neighbor. I asked one of my neighbors. I should have asked the other window. It was just some creative. It was broke to me. Are the neighbors nice out here? They're cool? Down't bother me because you're definitely like you just haven't at all ventured out, like you pretty much stay on your home base at all times and the cars ain't been touched. You got like an amazing car collection. They're just sitting in the garage. Yeah, I don't really know the neighborhood looking. But about you know, you know it's like to get here, it's a lot of restrictions, right, But what about your family? Is it? You know, is it easier for them to come see you and visit you and your friends? And how think you gotta go through the same the same procedure. Yeah, but you build a whole new foundation and you resually got married and you know as to like one inspired that to like settle down that way and get married and moving that direction I always wanted to and the women i'm week maybe actually want to rich. That's how it works, brother, That's how it works. You gotta get the right one. That's how it works. Did you do like a like limited with in the home movie? You did you do like a big kind of ceremony kind of thing or just get a little low key, little key you had the kids involved too, Okay, And the previous time, if you are saw um you did with like Angela, you said that you know you never felt that kind of love, you know from your grandmother. Did you feel like your partner gave you that, um fill that void for you? I feel like she's doing that for me. Do you think that that's because you know, obviously you've sort of not being really reflective of like the kind of music you make and the content you make and you know your responsibility to that. Do you think that sort of like having that stability at home is also a factor in that of how you're viewing things right now as you grow, like the fact that you know you talked about you know, maybe looking at the violence you're put in the music and making maybe wanting to make some changes with that. Right. Do you think that you're having a sort of stable home life now with a new wife and and being this great position. Does that connect to that in a lot of ways and impact you? Yeah? I think so. I think he has some then, do it? I really to be looking at other like young dudes, Like some people I'll be telling and I'll be like, oh, you know, it's really bad, bad, I'm still talking with talk. But I think I'm just white, do it though? Yeah? I don't even had no limit at first? Really we didn't notice. Yeah, but's it's funny the bitboard thing. You said that very interest story. You said pretty much a lot of it was you know, you know, there's a beautiful picture of your grandma right here in the home, and you know, we know how important she was to you and you you so you told a story about being the group home and then you know, so you were getting sort of bullied and stuff. You said that kind of like unleased the beast, right like that sort of show. You know a lot of times people end up moving a certain ways because they've been like impacted, you know, a certain way, right like, and that that's sort of unleased the fire inside of you. Then maybe you didn't even fully know you had, right, Yeah, there's another story though, do you listen to some of the old material or your old stuff not really put out so much new material? I mean, I guess you don't have the time, right. It's also crazy to be the dichotomy of like how you know, so I've spoken you are and then when you hear those especially those early records, just how fired up you are on the booth, Like was what was those sessions? Like that? You think that's another side of you that just kind of comes out when it's time to record. Oh no, there's like and the things that my mind that's like the mode is what I'm feeling. This is what I venture all too. Yeah, last year, man, you dropped eight albums, So that's crazy. I think that's the most you ever released. Like, was that your plan to flood the market like that? Not exactly. I think I had got like two certain number of tapes that had dropped in and I was just like, I'm gonna try to reach ten. So what was you what was your mind state with that? That run? You know, you left Atlantic Records, but you went on a crazy run with them for a long time and it seemed like, you know, people are saying, well, you you only obligated to do a certain amount of albums, but you over delivered, right, You gave them so many projects, Like can you talk about your mind state with that? There's just me Oh that's like just my m hm. It wasn't like a favor when it wouldn't just planned. I just dropped music. It brings some type of good feeling to put a tape together and just released. What made you leave Atlantic and wanted this new situation here at Motown because I wanted to experience some more stuff, you know, just trust something new, see if I can get more out of label situation, motown it's just came about. But then I actually just my specific label with each tape I got, I could go anywhere on the university. I don't want to go and drop your projects. Okay, that's wow, that's a that's the hell of it. That's what happens when you have the catalog that young boy has, Right, So you wanted that versatility in the sense, I guess right with the arrest of my case, even though like subject matter, to me, it sounds like the album focused a lot of on love, right, and then you got like these skit sandwiches in between, like top girls, top haters, the love be skit. Do you feel like those are real conversations people have when it comes to you and your music. I think so, really, I think those kids come very close to the conversations. So you like you're tapped in you I'm sure like you follow what's going on online for people saying the streets about why I be like, you're not just oblivious to I see a lot of and I do see a lot of ship. It's a lot I don't see neither because I ain't really I see a lot though, Yeah, you see a lot. You're definitely tapped in also said that was I'll be you almost want to challenge you know, you're not afraid to challenge your audience, right, Like it's a little bit of a different sound for your Like I see people talking about raging music and these sort of terms, like what do you think of that? Is that? Was that your intent with the music this time to be a little different of how you were putting this project together, Just trying to reach a different audience mykond of music that make it easy to me. It's I easy to sit there and do it literally, so I don't want to try something when you say that style of music, what do you mean by that? Just to sort of like the sound my fans know me to have. So but you're not afraid to experiment like on the rest of my case, because you know there's a lot of different a lot of different sounds, Like it's just a different departure from what people used to You also challenge the aesthetic, like people saying, well face it was in face paytent, doing your nails, painting your nails and doing these different sort of style, things like what's what's inspired that to do those different things too? The nails came out of the face. I was just playing with my face and I actually liked it. You should track I'm saying I got a checked with the wife, but with it. But that's the thing too, Like you said, you when you when um you and your wife that you to that sort of the style of it and doing it together addressed in a certain way of times. Right, it's not just you yourself, but also in the relationship. She's having fun. Do you know it's funny like when I was listening to my guy a family you know, you had that one track control talk and he said, like, you think the rap game is slowly fading away because of fans expectations, Right, do you still feel that way? I think people expect too much of this ship entertainment right at the end of the day, right, you know, some people get caught up inside of it and they actually get they so fucked up buff But it's all entertainment at the end of the day. And it's like, you know, they had a favorite rapper and this person funk around and do something like just s your flow that he had or like oh he faked, So they go to the Knicks Rapper. Then they see the Knicks rapper. This is my human too, this name got some type of flow too, So then they go to the Knicks. Way is that she's gonna get old? The whole thing? Don't getting phony to me? Do you feel like fans don't have that loyalty to the artists, like how they used to back into day. I'll try not to get into it because I know how fair to the change, right, you know, like you got your support us, but they'll flip on your quick like you do that went wrong? Right? I can't get that bad comment from them too, right, So your fans are sticking by you man Like, According to Illuminate in two thousand and twenty two, you're the third most streamed artists in United States, right behind like Drake and Taylor Swift? Man, Like, what do you credit to your success? So much more to be done? I already I don't not explain. I already feel like nothing been done? Really, Wow, you still feel like you're just never satisfied, right, But it's just it's a lot more to be done. But do you get do you draw any motivation from how much your music does resonate, Like if you did it and the numbers weren't as big, would it, would you still be as motivated as the success and the numbers, and that I know how big you are. Does that continue to motivate you to put our projects, having a point, approve, to be having something to say, m not just be to wake up like three in the morning or some ship and just record myself. Is this therapy? Mm hmmm? Still to this day it's the same way. Just someone I remember talking with you for title a little while back, and he was and I was trying to I was trying to get you to like get competitive and say, you know, it is your name in the ring with these people. But but but I think it's interesting about your success is that you don't look like you're really competing, Like you've always had your own lane, you know what I'm saying, Like it's not about like these rapper lists or who's number one, these kind of things other than the numbers itself, like something like you take pride in like you're not really competing with people. You've kind of carved out your own lane and what you do. Is that fair to say? Yeah, I don't think that kids compete. I think I lose really how to play the game. I just go, yeah, like I ain't never really like he no type of structure. I just go, are you evening this time to drop to pick the songs out of magic? I don't know. Man, then was in the stats saying do you want that accolade? That like what you said? Like you you obviously know you even influenced the whole generation and influence so many other rappers, Like you know you'll hear big names like a Draker Cole Kendrick from another generation, like you know for your generation, do you want your name to be said like, oh you know I got that from young Boy or young Boy was what I was always bumping and what I was listening to. That's what inspired me. Just I just won't be paid. Ohn't know, but I think this whole music thing like if it is, like it's all ignorance. M I just don't want to be paid. I don't care about it. That's how you just success. It's just with the monetary, with the money business business. Yeah, you're still out the way right, How have you got no steps? Like? I guess part of I guess moving from Atlanta Motown and where you are now, Like, what do you think of some of the key things you've done, is sort of like put your business in a better place that you that you feel more comfortable, like you feel like you're getting your value and out here terms of what you create. What were some key moves you made to kind of put yourself in a better position. Oh, look at it. They would't need And I still don't feel like I didn't need to because it's like, no matter what I've gotten from someone, like, it's somebody, Like, no matter if I got to two dollars, it's actually somebody in making vote off my creation. So until I get the business down, pick like to what I like, I built my own team, Like I don't need no label, Like this whole system is what I'm built, and this is all I need to get everything on from out of it. I'd be cool, but I don't feel like I did then no difference told you are aboutle to get like more ownership, like get your masters and get your situations like that every dime, say I want every time? Then my creation brain, Yeah, I want every time. I remember that freestyle you did over the story of O J and you said that you had a percentage and United Masters. Yeah. Yeah, oh so you had like conversations with Steve Stout and yeah I talked to him before. Okay, I actually even understand what's going on to business right now. I need to check on what thing to look after, make sure right checks and balances. You know, you know, your boy, we've been through like the blog era, We've been through like the SoundCloud era, and you know, like you're like the king of YouTube, right, So, like when did you realize like that platform was like the best place for you to get your music out? I think I just realized that recently, but I always was YouTube. You just you ain't gotta go through those steps to upload it and get your music out there. You just press over this, you go out right then and there. I said, if you guys in and say, you know you gotta wait days into this whole situation over wait for the doing you now, you could answer right then, less clearances to like samples and yeah YouTube, just quicker. It seems like you're not the type of person to hold any music back, Like is that driving the label crazy? I do got a lot of music I don't drop though, Okay, I do drop a lot of music too. I don't really know how to been this side of that beat going. M. I don't really come at me with it on the business side too. Man. You know a lot of these artists, you know, make their bread and butt on the road. But you know, being that you here, you know, you haven't really been hitting the stage, you know, in a while, Like do you miss that element of the game is performing touring? It'll be fun to do, but I ain't sucked up about it. You remember the last show you did that was in Florida? Song? Like, how do you even approach the set list? Because you have so many records? Like it's like you know, and also that you're not defined by like one record. You know some artists like we just played that one record, we know that's their hit, Like you do you probably yourself on that that you're not known just for like one record, Like you just just go out the previous songs I released just TK somebody around me. M M, just let it be, oh, just whatever the current project is. Yeah, Like for the show sit, I just go after him the previous songs are released, M, what do I know they're gonna want to hear for a show. What are some of those like, what's like free essential from your humble opinion? What's free essential songs from your catalog? This you know, like a kind of everlasting to your fans that they want to hear if they saw you live valuable pain outside today it was some ship like this slime belief thirty eight baby. That's my next question, what's what's your top three projects? What's your top three projects? You think you put out? I think the baby too, top mind? Got a family, DJ drama even with drama? What made you go to do the dramas? Gangster Girl's name with that man? What made you reach out? You just used to drama voice coming across a lot of tapes like you as a kid or some ship that ship is like just dripped inside your mind? Right, get a host food and asked me who ask my drama? Growing up? You know you said your mom was always inspiration. You know she used to wrap as well. You had it on thirty eight Baby Part two? Um, what other rappers did you look up to growing up or listen to when he was a kid, like just local artists? Okay, find mistake speaking on on the parental front though I know your dad. You know he's locked up right now. There's a song dedicated Hey Pops and the rest of my case. Uh did you play that for him? Or does he know about that? Or I don't know if you know, but I ain't play. I ain't playing for him. This bird you to make that song going off comments, you know, just like just just want to he think about all of this ship? Yeah, like ship that other people have something miss y about that way you think about then as it went from to the studio from now, I like how you opened that record, you said like, hey Pop, you're proud of me. You feel like you might be proud of you at this point. Yeah, I think you proud. I don't think he got none against none of this ship. I think he proud. I was really proud of that moment that you did on Tyl of the Aids album as well. Man, you shocked a lot of people on that with that collaboration, for sure, but you didn't shocked him about it. I didn't think people were expecting that you could get busy like that, you know. I think they just told you in one lane and then we heard you on Tyler's album, was like WHOA Okay, NBA and you know Tyler, they funk with each other and it was definitely a hit. It was a winner. How did that come together? I really don't remember, because, unfortunately, think when it came out to you, you was locked up. You couldn't be part of the video or stuff like that at the time, right, I think I just remember meeting him. I don't remember how it happened though, And I don't think I did that song right then. And I was like, as I met him, I think that song was sent sent to me. But you killed it and killed it man. You also killed it with Nicki Minaj and I admitted you did a video for that one. What was it like working with her? It was nice. He got a couple of those, got a couple of those with nick a couple of joys. That's the thing. You don't mess a lot of oppers. But when you have, when do the collaborations. I was talking about that with you before. You have a lot of dope features like the Negos needed joining um you in future with the trillion their joint like a lot of times, like you're very selective, right, Like you don't you don't play nights with a lot of rappers like you very selective of who you work with. But it seems like when you decide to do it, you know the results are there either getting funny and tricky when you get to working with artists trying to work with yeah, they ain't getting weird? Do you like, well, who are you going to work with? Because I know, I'm sure you get asked all the time, right it's for like to do a soon Yeah yeah, but you can, man, you can't pay me on me and do no song like it don't work like that. You got to actually feel the artists and the feel the get to know the person, right, Yeah, it's like sometimes I just want to have a conversation first just to see like what type of man you go? Right? Like, ah, way the same kind or something. He was very revealing to a different aspect of that when the But but then what you're saying, how like you don't you don't necessarily trust people, right, Like you're very You're very you know, protective and guarded in terms of like you know people like you said, people can't be cruel, right, everybody may I have the best intentions, like that must be tough. Then you know, the music industry is kind of built on a lot of that, right, like a lot of that. You know, not a lot of good characters out here in this space. So does that make it even more challenging to like maneuver in this business? But I just don't like people period though yet have you always been this way or just kind of like being this business is just conditioning? Oh it's been okay. I think this business made it worse. Did you have conversations with take off in Quavo because you're on the un Confused project too to the Bone, probably to get in on that record. I think Kuavo sent me the song. Okay, they came out here to do the video, but I think something happened and they had me in a fuck the move so he counsel the video. I regret it though. It's okay though it feels like, Um, you have a real good connection with Burt Man. You know, guys done some projects together. Five Yeah, my fire. He's a good guy. How's your relationship blossom throughout the years? Just dude crazy Like, um, he's just talk a lot of ship and I just like to sit down, my fire. I like when he popped this ship man. Yeah, Beatris he's been on the fucking Nigger too. That's the same type of time. Yeah, yeah about it. What is it difference because you know he's from New Orleans and you from be all like, is there still like a connection or is it like a Yeah, you know a lot of ship that's like going on and br you know, a lot of ship stem from New Orleans. You know, that's like where the real gangsters come from. That's what a lot she got blooded in first. It's kind of like when we learned a lot of ship from m M. It's a connection, though, what do you think that is about Louise Siana? Like, what is it? What does it breathe like that that stay? I think Aluisions is different. Bro mm hmm. No matter where you Louisiana, they're gonna stand up. And it's also something in the blood man Louisiana. You guys, you know you have masterp got the cash. Money is the Birdman's of the world, and you you even kind of taking up of that stance with your crew that never broke again crew. You guys put the compilation talk about those guys and what makes them so dope? It makes them dopey. My brothers like you said, want to send me as something and this is actually pressure. Yeah, like that's really my brother rapping. It's like, I don't think a lot of them wanta rap. I think it's just something then the group into right now and that a select few feel like they can make it. I think it's just something fun right now that everybody getting into right hand is free money right a podcast? That should be that I stayed selling people like yeah, you know what face the people give you like this a million dollars or two hundred dollars just to sign you, like anybody a deal today, m and then everybody wrop So it's just free money. Has your relationship with money changed? What you mean? Like I remember one of the songs you talked about how like you've spent ten million dollars on taxes. That's like not being educated. I know what the funk going on? And I spend my money right just having a double back and pay another work reckon. You say you had like twenty five million before the deal and you came back and five with a lot of big numbers, young boy, I don't ready then to spend money on So I don't ready spend money like that. I don't really happening. I won't you know my mindset, I just be want to make money so my wife could buy anything. She won't happy wife, happy life. Yeah, I had my fun. He's still young though, you know, so you gotta financial advising now. She don't look like she's messing around, which with the young voice situation, I think she'd be on top. But so does she make you do like investments and stocks and these kind of things, or should be having me off from two? A lot of this ship whatever, it's supposed to be kind of foul Healy with a lot of that stuff. But trust our judgment, may not trust no mad because Burnman give you like pointers to you know when it comes to financial literacy and things like that. Oh, well, we're to talk about many Burnman doesn't talk about money. We we'll be talking about like some ship that we like thinking about putting off, but as far as like just money, like, well, don't sit that talking about money. Okay. I heard that you guys are working on a movie too, Ball of Blocking Part two, So that's happening. Wow, did you see the original? Yeah? You like have hell? Yeah? Classic classic come out Classic? You watched the classic bushing absolutely, did you have to like take acting classes? Like how was your acting? That's a no from your boy, that's a big shoes to feel man like, you know, from following up that classic so hell yeah, man, I think it means a lot, you know, to the world, but specifically to New Orleans and Louisiana. You know. I think that's you know, it's a cultural moment. I'm looking forward to seeing you in it. I'm looking forward to standing myself. It's all done. Okay, we started, you started. Okay, you're also starting to stop the violence campaign. Man. I like this. I like this direction that you're going into. Young boy, can you talk about that initiative? Yeah? Yeah, man, that ship, thank you, just get out of getting out of hand. It's a lot of like pitch niggers, like starting to dealings with a lot of ship man. You know. I usually some times would be like two gangsters like just litlely at the eight to the nick and I like they got real life bitches. That's provoked, provoking and like just manipulating people. And I don't like it. I ain't cool. I ain't cool. It is right, my bitch. As ship going in the day, this bullshit, bro, you just ain't feeling it. Stop the vibes right. If you do something, just make sure he got a very good meaning, like the right reason. But do something with intention. Yeah, it seems like people just want to do things for cloud as. They say they got babies killing babies ship. Yeah, but they niggas that sixth thing to walk up on you and suit you down. Ship backles, But you gotta think about it's another bit to his niggah provoking his young nigga to walk up on you and hit you with this bitch though, just because he ain't he ain't really cut like that. He's soul walk up on you and just spank you right here, so you don't tap young you know Yang, it ain't got no man, you know Yang from from the poppy in front every back. No, Yeah, this ship just backwards, like being taken advantage of. Yeah, my gangster ship going on a lot of Pulson ship getting ready to tell on each other too. So you feel like like, you know, even back home, do you feel like a responsibility You want to help some of those youths back and back rude shout, I won't help to youth anywhere anywhere Okay, it's all about to understanding. I think, like what a lot of the youth once you like just actually see or just get that belief of knowing when you actually can go or just come in contact with half. I think that's when you just try to see it clip. When did you realize that you start to have this impact on like the youth culture? Was there a moment specifically? This ship just come from somebody saying, Oh, they're listen to you if you say this, right, you know what I'm mean bed to say? So I see it. M I hope they'll listen to me. Yeah, And like you said, this isn't like you're trying to clean all every single lyric Like you're just you're doing the best you can do. But yeah, but more intentional in terms of like you know, it's more like gun violence and things like that. That that type of talk unless it's warranted in a sense, right, Yeah, that conversation with bill Boy, you said, you're not going back to who you used to be? Who was that? Who was that person? I said that about that person? I just ain't the right person, not the right person to bet It ain't some what I don't know. It's like over here, things like you just accomplished that, like just being given, like you'll be a damned food if you stay the same like right yeah, then like if you have to like get off houser this and like to go back to the north side of something like post the video big gun on Me or something. I did all this to make it from this. I totally guns and did all these ships to make it from right here. Just to come back with all these money and do the same thing that's hustling backwards. You definitely got it. You got your head straight on right man, because people, you know, they go back to this environment where it's, like you said, hustling backwards doesn't make sense. I think I heard the next album is don't try to sit home? Is that true? Don't try to sit home. Don't try this at home. Okay, I'm gonna talk crazy on that. I'm gonna talk crazy on that, but I'm letting you know though, don't try this at home. Don't try it's all entertainment, bro. I'm gonna talk my ship and everything I told him, and you know, don't try this at home. You feel like it's a thin line between like reality and entertainment. And sometimes people don't can't diffrigate entertainment and reality. It is very different what I do think some of the entertainments and make they enter terment theory reality. Also if I said that, right, no you did, No, Like, don't get me on to like a lot of people you will see today, Oh that's a hundred percent what they is. I don't. I don't doubt it, like a lot of rappers today, like man, but I'm probably a hundred percent what they is. But I guarantee, Bro, I'm gonna joy nah man and be like this. Bro, you're looking at all the rappers videos. You're gonna see a gun in his video? Right you go to the next one. He got a gun in his video, right, Man, you gotta diggle it deeper sometime, Bro, I am not looking at his mama. His mama, you know, gangster? So how the funck is he a gangster? That ship gonna be adding up, Bro, don't try to say don't. I don't try. It's entertainment. So as far as like the sound of that, you know it's going to be a departure from where I rest. My cases is gonna you say, you're talking your ship, But sonically, Like what producers are you working with? Like, I ain't pay attention to who did all the beats? I know the rock for show, but I recall it all by myself, So you's engineered by yourself too. Yeah, just sitting up recording myself. No wait until I got up a mount the right amount of songs, Like I'm ready. Is there a wish list of producers that you want to work with? Nobody? What about like, uh, maybe other artists less features on this recent albums too, right, let's features? That's like that being a moment too. I didn't want to work with people in the moment. There's some people that I wasn't expecting. Like I saw you and Kalani through the record together. I was like, Okay, I think that was cool. You know you do work well with other is in the right scenario. So looking forward to that before the end of the year, I know we got this project. I know you're gonna are you gonna beats more? How many more? After that eight last year? I ain't gonna beat las. Yeah that's just because I want to. I want to know how to structure that ship. But okay, just have a plan with each drop. But how you feel bad. You're gonna be doing more pressive ship. It's about it. It's gonna be the last one with you. You know, I feel good. I appreciate you all say this. Feel good. Yeah, he come and talk to him. Absolutely. I think it was super insightful. Man. You know, don't think it's important. You know, like you said, the impact you have on the game for you just share your thoughts on what youmans, how it he is. You know, I think it's important you know your lead out here in the space. I don't want to be responsible though. Yeah, so I don't really want to be the matter role. Mother. You look at more yourself just as entertainer, just trying to feature kids. Think he had that kind of mentality too, boy, because at one point, man, this really was my life. Man, whatever you really come out, my mother would say that actually went down yesterday, or that went down that's weak fine insiderday and not like nah, it's entertainment, it's what it's feeling. Do you feel blessed that you survived it like that? Ships? Man ain't got people that I love to this day, Like who's still stay in the hood up who don't know what they're gonna eat it from the wake up and go to work. Like ship could be so much worse. I got birds right now, Like who the world known me to be around that nigg probably trying to figure out how you're fe to get some money before the day. She could be way worse. Gont we're here in Utah. But whenever you are back home, what's it like the energy? Like the people just went up on you and hands out. They ain't never really seen m probably do no no mather products see me from ben realtion. Think they see a coast or some ship. So it's like a myth. Yeah, they never really saw me. I ain't never really performed I needed, so it's definitely a demand. Yeah, every time I went back though, only thing I can remember right now, it's just ship. What are we from the postal bit? The duck and just during in you you're making sure every call you know that put on side you'll stick hanging out that bitture. That's all it really is when you do what we from the what we're from the postal bit, right, and it's it just watching yourself in time. So when you do come back home, whenever you decide to be a big homecoming, and you don't plan on going Bag, Yeah, to visit fron Off from there, I don't plan on going BAG. I mean, it's not too many rappers that's doing it big in Utah, So I think you have a whole state a lot. Appreciate you, young boy, Thank you, brother, I appreciate you. Thanks. 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