The Rock: Completing the Almighty Nic Cage Trilogy

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Welcome to another episode of Quantum Recast.
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It's me, corey and Nick and joining us from across the pond, ashery.
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Hello, welcome.
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Hello, yeah, I can't believe I'm back.
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It's been a minute, so really happy to be back guys.
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Yes, he's busy.
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He's in the video movie tv world right now yeah, he's texting us canceling podcast recordings because he's on set very fancy.
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Very sorry, sorry, it's not as glamorous as uh is one thought it would be, but it's very, it's very rewarding at the end.
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But, yeah, very, very um time consuming, as I'm sure people know if they've done it before.
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Yes, for sure it is.
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It's a lot of sitting around no, it honestly is, but I honestly prefer doing podcasts and, honestly, we've tried to get this episode on the wraps for a while now and uh, it's my fault, I keep pushing it back but I can't do it.
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I'm too tired.
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But, um, I'm just glad that we're doing it now, because this is one of my favorite films, if not favorite michael bay film, for sure, absolutely.
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This is michael bay's favorite film he's done.
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Is this his favorite?
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Yeah, this is the top.
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This is the one he considers his favorite.
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And if you, if you clicked on it, you obviously know what we're talking about, but it's this is a big episode.
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It is, First of all, we're continuing down our weird action packed streak of like what are we coming off of?
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A decent proposal.
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Did we do two Bay movies back to back, or is this the second one in?
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a row.
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I think this might be the second one.
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Okay, all right, so we're continuing the Bay hymn and we are doing the Rock.
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But that also closes out on this podcast.
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The Holy Trinity of Cage.
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We've finally done it.
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We're here.
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You've done Face Off and Con Air already.
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We've done Face Off twice.
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We have that's true, and we've done con air.
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So amazing yes, so we're.
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Nicholas cage won an oscar and then just spent the next three years making three of the best action movies of all time.
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So such a nicholas cage and snake eyes is in there and I think it's underrated okay, okay, oh yeah, that's very cool, yeah all right yes, the why of what.
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Why are we doing this one, the rock um, I don't know, I did ash pick it or did I pick it?
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ash did pick.
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Okay, ash picked it.
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I mean, it's been on his list for a while because it's a great movie oh yeah, I would say it's yeah, like we've established.
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I think it's probably his best film.
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I just think we caught nicholas cage at his precise moment where people start to discover the nicholas cage definition of his name, because it was at that moment we realized, wow, this guy is actually kind of fun to hang around with in a movie and as a character, and he started to explore his personalities which would soon emulate in all his other films.
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Uh, this nicholas cage ism, I guess.
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Um, I believe this is the first of the trilogy, right 1995.
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And then we get Con Air and Face Off.
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This is the first one, this is the one that kicks it off the whole.
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This is 96.
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Con Air might have been the same year.
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Con Air is 97.
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Okay, 97.
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And then Face Off is 97.
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So this would be the beginning.
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Yes, yes.
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To answer your question, this is the start of something that we didn't know was going to exist the Holy Trinity and the start of the decline, I guess, of Michael Bay, which he peaked very early I think it was Bad Boy then the Rock and then Armageddon was a lot of fun, but I mean the Rock, and then you've got the chemistry of Sean Connery.
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I just don't think you've got that.
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I don't think you get that chemistry again.
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I think Rush again, I think rush hour might have got very close, but other than that, it's a once in a decade kind of chemistry these two actors having on.
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So I think that's why, and it works, it's absurd sometimes, but it works, and it's emotional, um, but I just think you've got two a-list actors side by side, at the right year, at the right time, directed by the right guy, um, and I think we've got the peak of pretty much all three of those people.
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Um, I don't know if you agree with that, I don't know maybe, but it's definitely one where I can just re-watch the film and love sean connery for who he is, love nicholas gage for who he is, and michael bay, of course, is doing his typical explosions one-liners, cheese, uh, brunettes with eyes, the usual things that you see in a michael bay, um, but yeah, I, I, I love this film.
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I loved it the second I saw it.
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I don't think I know many people who don't like this film.
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It's just.
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There's nothing not to like about it.
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It's very it's just.
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It's just a good.
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It's a good fun, it's fun.
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And um, also the establishment of hans zimmer as well.
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That's what continues from like the crimson tide era.
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We're starting to get musical scores that are starting to be a bit more heavy and a bit more electric, and that comes from crimson Tide and then into this and you kind of get those.
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You know that's the beginning of that as well.
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So the Rock does establish a lot of cool things that really come in later in action films, I think.
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For sure.
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I have a question Is this the last of Sean Connery, like the last good Sean Connery?
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I mean his last official film was the league of extraordinary gentlemen, before he retired and I I enjoyed it as well, but I just don't.
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I know it's not viewed as like a good movie by most people oh, I see, do you mean like critically acclaimed, or like?
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Do you mean success, I would I guess I could say like, while it's while league is enjoyable, it didn't do well in box office.
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It was kind of a bomb I mean there was entrapment with captain zeta jones.
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That was a good movie.
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Nothing, I think.
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Yeah.
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I mean I mean by yeah, using bias I'd say the rock is his best film out james bond franchise.
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Um he did a movie called the avengers like right after this one where he actually was, the villain, which is rare and it's watchable and the villain strong, I mean technically.
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He's sort of anti-hero here, isn't he?
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So yeah.
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So here's what you get after the rock, which is which the year before you have uh, first night, and then this year he does dragon heart and the rock follows it up with the avengers playing by heart.
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Entrapment with katherine zeta, jones finding forester the next year, and then 2003 is league of extraordinary gentlemen yeah, and now he has a voice role later on, but it's not anything, uh, that I've heard of before.
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Sir billy, he's a voice role and also executive producer, so yeah and I mean like he, he like.
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I mean there's a lot of mythos around sean connery, like there's the rumor that he turned down lord of the rings because he didn't get it and did league instead, and then obviously lord of the rings was what it was and league was not, and that they, like people, say like he pretty much said okay, obviously my time in hollywood is done yeah, like I don't get it anymore.
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Yeah, no, that's.
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And he did the same thing for the matrix as well.
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He turned down the, the role of morpheus in 1999 again, I think same reason, he didn't understand it.
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Um, but I wanted to ask you, like, as a Brit, um, and he's Scottish like, is he like, do you are you aware of, like his films outside of James Bond?
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Was he a success in Hollywood, would you say?
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Or would?
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Was the Rock one of those films, like all the untouchables, maybe the one he won the Oscar for?
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Like, was he known as an American Hollywood star, would you say?
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I would say so because even outside of the Bond movies in the 90s he still had a run.
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Even outside of this he had the uncredited cameo in Robin Hood, prince of Thieves, previous to that in the late Hunt for Red October in 90.
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Of course, indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.
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He had Touchables in 87.
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Highlander, to some people is an enjoyable movie, but he has appearances in a lot of movies like the man who Would Be King Time Bandits, murder on the Orient Express some notable movies of his post-James Bond run.
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I guess you could say To me he's this dude that's got a really weird kind of like he's James Bond and then kind of does all these weird fantasy kind of movies for a minute.
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I don't know, I feel like growing up he was always a big deal.
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Yeah, I agree, I just feel like we knew him from Indiana Jones Our people, our age and stuff like that.
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It always just came off as he was a big deal.
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Yeah, like I just feel like he, we knew him from indiana jones, like our people, our age and stuff like that, and then like, so it always just came off as he was a big deal for sure.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I mean, that's exactly the same here, like, to be honest, like our age group I guess, from people from 30 to 40.
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I mean I also knew him from, uh, last crusade um, who's this guy?
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And then my dad was, oh, that's, uh, james bond.
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Have you not seen dr?
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No, and all this.
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And then I revisited the 60s and I was like, oh okay, he's pretty suave, but the really funny thing about him, which I only found out when talking to girls, was that he was still attractive in the 90s, even as a 60s, 70s old man, which they make a kind of an ironic reference in the movie.
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When he's like, maybe I've lost my sex appeal, like, and it's a massive, a massive ironic thing, because he's still considered a sexy person even at his age, which is another thing he had going for him, apparently.
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A silver fox, if you will.
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I think he was the silver fox, like before.
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George Clooney made it kind of fashionable in the maybe naughty side, but yeah, as soon as he gets his hair cut on the balcony, when he's like his haircuts on the balcony, um, when he's like my structure here or Cecil the bill, I mean that that's a very sexy shot of him just spinning boots hair and every woman I speak to is like, wow, yeah, that is that's James Bond, right there in you know.
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And I don't know if that comes across as like wow, this man is suave, this is someone we like, someone who's actually still good looking at this age.
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Uh, which?
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is why I think this works for sure, sure, for sure.
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Well, that's because the Rock is the final James Bond movie for Sean Connery.
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I consider it canon.
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So tell us about the theory, corey, tell us about the theory.
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I think that he, like I'm, of the notion that James Bond's a codename.
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I don't mess with this Daniel Craig crap of trying to de-establish that James Bond's a codename.
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I'll say this I'll say Craig, canonically is the first James Bond and he becomes the codename, and that Sean Connery's version is arrested for trying to steal state secrets from the United States and is held without captive because he's such a valuable guy.
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His real name is John Mason.
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Codename James Bond.
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That's such a valuable guy.
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His real name is John Mason, right, codename James Bond.
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That's such a crazy theory, which is why he's so good at being a badass.
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So wait, you're saying that Sean Connery as John Mason in the Rock is actually James Bond.
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Yes, that is the 60s James Bond that's such.
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I mean the maths adds up.
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I guess he steals a microfilm in 1962, which is when the first Doctor no came out, I believe.
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Yes, I mean yeah, that's a conspiracy.
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Theories go, or theories go, like the Ferris Bueller one, or whatever ones, that's not a stretch at all?
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It's not.
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Let's compare the two.
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So you've got James Bond, who's a British MI6 secret agent.
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You've got John Mason, who's a former British SAS captain, allegedly working for British intelligence.
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Their personalities are kind of similar, where Bond's more suave and witty, cocky, mason's a little cynical, reclusive, which you can imagine, he's been in jail for a long time and without due process.
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Both are elite in combat, tactical thinking, escape, artistry, interrogation, intelligence.
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Uh bond has more resource access, obviously, but mason operates with like raw skill, improvisation and like because he doesn't have m or q or whoever to give him the tools and stuff he has.
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The us government, nicholas cage and his and then that coin that he gets from Womack or Paxton.
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But the thing I mean it does make sense.
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I mean the first thing he does ask is the feel of a good suit and that's like an iconic thing as James Bond is the suit.
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You have to wear the suit, the tux.
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I mean it was I swear it was in Pierce Brosnan contract that he couldn't wear a tuxedo in any other film when he was James Bond.
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So it's a big deal um the suit and he deliberately asks for that when he's making his negotiations.
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So I like that theory.
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I really do uh, james, that's how I watch the Rock well, I think that it plays into it.
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I think that it it clearly is building this movie in the story off of Sean Connery's time, as James Bond like, like, I don't think you casted him in that spot for nothing yeah, I mean, I think they probably don't.
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I mean, I I listen, that's just a theory that I like to subscribe to.
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But I'm sure michael bay kept telling him you're kind of james bondy, you're kind of like an old james bond, yeah you know, yeah, I was like, why not be james bond?
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but let's make it a bit ironic and change your name a little bit, but keep the character the same.
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I know I like it.
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I like that theory.
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I mean, the film doesn't actually go anywhere in terms of not addressing it, so I think that's a clever move and it's just like what have you and just we'll deal with it.
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Yeah, I think if James or Sean Connery had his way, he'd still be playing James Bond.
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Yeah probably.
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I mean he's dead now.
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He's gone now.
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Rest in peace.
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But I mean they were making dual James Bond's movies, where him and his replacement were playing movies at the same time.
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His last one was Never Say Never Again in 83.
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And.
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I'm not sure though.
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Okay, yeah, roger Moore had come in, so he wasn't willing to give off the title yet.
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No.
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Yeah, he came back to do another one, like in the late 80s, I think, or something Early yeah 83.
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Yeah.
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I mean, he'd already messed up with that character once, right, because the lands be.
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Did it in the middle of his run, right?
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Yes, it was like David Niven did it as a spoof.
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He did Casino Royale, which is the first book, and then they Broccoli did dr no, which was the first official James Bond of Sean Connery, and then it was Roger Moore, then it was this Australian cap, australian chap called Lazenby.
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I think Lazenby might have been before, but he just did one film and he actually everyone says the guy who can't remember the film but he's meant to be in the best James Bond film voted in one of the magazines and he only did one film.
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Oh, really, yeah, yeah, yeah, um, and he was a fashion model.
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That george lazenby, yeah he was in on on her majesty's secret service in 69.
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Yeah it was a good film, yeah, that's, that's what voted one of the best bond films, and it happened to be the one that lazenby was the bond and he was he's a good.
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The one that sean connery's not in, yeah.
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But then this is the thing though sean connery sort of he sort of established what it was to be suave, and it probably wasn't him.
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I'm sure many people were suave, like, I guess, the character of dracula or you know other people, but I mean it was more the cigarette and the way he talked and the womanizing kind of made it kind of cool and british and whatnot.
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Um, I mean, dr no is full of just uh, examples of his.
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It's more of his attitude rather than the story, and there's never really been a film that's more about the character's attitude than the actual storyline itself, which is why I think Bond is such a popular character, because it's all attitude based.
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Yeah, which on, mason has, I think as well.
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He has a certain attitude which is quite attractive yes, for sure, for sure.
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Corey, do you want me to give you the rundown of the Rock real quick, with some useless movie trivia and critical stats?
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Yeah, give me the critical stats.
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All right, we got some movie details for you guys.
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So the Rock it was released in 1996, a runtime of 136 minutes.
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Michael Bay, the director, as we know, of Bad Boys, armageddon, transformers, fame and Infamy.
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The writers David Weisberg, douglas S Cook, mark Rosner.
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Weisberg and Cook did Double Jeopardy in 99.
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Rosner did the Blue Bloods TV show.
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Don Simpson this was actually dedicated to him.
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He passed away before the movie was released and it's also a Jerry Bruckheimer production Cinematographer.
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John Swartzman, a Michael Bay staple.
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Seabiscuit, jurassic World and the Founder are some of his notable movies.
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This film's budget was $75 million.
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It made a total box office of $335.1 million worldwide.
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So it did pretty well, pretty well for itself.
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Critics stats We've got IMDb gave it a 7.4.
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Rotten Tomatoes got a critic rating of 68,.
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A fan rating of 85.
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Metacritic 58 from critics Users got 8.7.
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And on Letterboxd it sits at a 3.4 out of 5.
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What is your score for it, corey?
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What like on.
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Letterboxd, yeah, letterboxd.
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What's the top?
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Top is 5 out of 5.
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Like 4.5.
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Okay all right, All right Ash.
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What about you?
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Yeah, I'd agree with Corey.
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I'd probably put it in the four and a half bracket, for sure.
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I think it's a timeless action movie, for sure.
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Trying to see.
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I gave it three and a half so I was pretty critical of it.
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I don't know, it's a solid movie.
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I don't have a problem with it.
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I don't know.
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It's a solid movie.
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I don't have a problem with it.
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I have a question, Name one flaw.
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Yeah, I mean, look, Corey, I will ask Nick this question and you can gang up on him with me if you want.
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Would you say this is Michael Bay's best film.
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So yeah, it's going to for me.
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I have a trinity of Michael Bay movies and it's the Rock.
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Armageddon and Bad Boys 2.
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I think Bad Boys 2 is way better than Bad Boys 1.
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Yeah, I mean Bad Boys 1, the car chase, the favelas.
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I just feel like that's Will Smith and Martin Lawrence having the most fun, but I would say it's probably up there.
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But I also have a massive affinity for Pain and Gain, which everyone forgets.
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Really, because there's not a lot of explosions, so right, it's explosions, but it's biceps.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, explosion of veins.
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An ambulance was really good.
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I don't know if you ever watched it.
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I enjoyed it.
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It was a lot of fun yeah.
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I feel like.
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I feel like Michael Bay is good at fun and I like fun movies, yeah.
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So I just hate that he took 10 years off to make Transformer movies.
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That pissed me off.
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I hate that.
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I completely agree with you and I'm getting that way about Denis Villeneuve.
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I'm like, are you completely committing yourself to Dune right now, because I'm just looking at, like Prisoners and Enemy and Ensemble D's and all these great arrivals you know, go back to making singular films.
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Don't commit yourself to a franchise, because it's honestly, I mean, yeah, some of them are good, I mean they're both great films, but you're sort of denying yourself the opportunity to make another arrival or another Prisoners, which I don't know if you like those films, but I love them and they're great films Michael Bay, exactly, I think, after transformers, one which you know was great it had the lincoln park ending.
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Megan fox, shia labeouf.
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You know it was great in 2008-9 whenever it came out, but yeah it's what?
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four or five movies after that as well.
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It's a bit heavy.
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You know um the movies that he's directed.
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This one has the highest rating on imdb, that's the rock.
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The only other movie that does better is a documentary that he just came out with this year the we are store, store.
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Yeah, it got a nine, wow, but it's a documentary.
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So of all the fictional or feature movies he's made, the.
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Rock is the highest rated.
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What about you, Nick?
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Is the Rock the best Bay film for you?
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I got a soft spot for Armageddon, I think.
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I think it takes the cake for me.
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Armageddon.
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I just want you to tell me the flaw of the rock that cost it one and a half stars.
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Yeah, nick, I don't know it's long.
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It is long, it's a minute.
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But show us Armageddon.
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But there's a lot going on.
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In Armageddon there's a bunch of characters, the world's at threat.
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This one you're like okay, it's Cage Edge Connery and we've had our fun.
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Let's wrap this up a little bit.
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Okay, a little leaner version of this.
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I would have probably gone four stars Maybe let me play devil's advocate.
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I'll tell you one floor of the rock that really like I.
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Only I watched it recently.
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You know that he's meant to be feeling the microfilms.
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That's why Mason's in prison, Right.
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Yeah.
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And then Walmack and Paxton have this like chat about what Mason did, and then they're like this guy knows, or everything from the last half century is the alien at roswell.
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I'm like, wait a second, why hasn't he stopped him right there?
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I want to find out more about the aliens at roswell.
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Why not go into that?
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That's one thing I was like, oh why, why not ask a bit more about?
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roswell.
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I mean, that's just my alien knows this, or who?
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It's not walmart.
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Who's the other guy?
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Paxton knows his place, ash, I know.
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but if someone says to me this guy knows the truth about the aliens at Roswell, what, hello, what?
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truth.
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Yeah, I'm going like okay, tell me more.
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We can't just say that and then walk away.
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Exactly?
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How is that not the next question?
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Okay, so what happened at Roswell?
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First of all, he said just the truth For all we know.
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That just means he definitively knows nothing Like nothing happened.
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Nothing happened and that really hurts tourism in New Mexico and they don't want that out.
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True, they do live off of that in Roswell.
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I've been there recently.
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Yeah, I've been.
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They really milk that whole alien thing.
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It is.
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Mcdonald's is a spaceship.
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Their whole main street's got all kinds of stores and stuff.
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It's a big deal out there.
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You went to Roswell.
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Is there an actual place where it landed?
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Is there a site or something, or is it just this place?
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So there is an Air Force base outside of Roswell.
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So I went, like years ago with an ex-girlfriend and her grandparents own like a hunting ranch there and like, honestly, you can see it.
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Like her grandfather said, oh yeah, that's where they took the stuff from the crash and I was like, yes, I'm ready.
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Show me the goods.
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There is an air force base there that were that supposedly they took whatever landed there.
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Well, I mean, okay, quick question, do you?
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But do you believe the alien landed at roswell or crashed?
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oh no, I.
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I went to the alien ufo museum there.
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That was totally just a weather balloon oh yeah, there's no way.
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That was just a weather balloon.
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Oh no, you've ruined the magic that's just my thing.
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I felt like there was nothing there to say anything other than a weather.
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Balloon crashed and then that city just said we're riding this out.
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Gotta ride this till the wheels.
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Roll off, baby.
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Oh man, You've crushed Asher's dreams.
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I'm sorry His American dreams.
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That's my perspective.
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No, no, I his american dreams.
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That's my perspective.
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So no, no, I mean no.
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I mean you've been, you guys have been, I've not.
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I'm planning, I want to go there at some point.
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But also, did you guys also notice that michael bay mentions jfk in both this film and in armageddon?
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So obviously the scene is like, oh, do you really want to know who killed jfk?
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Like the closing line of a movie this good and that was fine.
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And then in armageddon, you know when they're handing in their requests, like they don't want to pay taxes you wouldn't know who killed Kennedy.
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Yeah exactly, and that's like a back to back Bay film with the same question.
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That's quite interesting as well, michael.
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Bay really wants to make us think about if JFK was assassinated by the government yeah, that's like a big, that's a massive thing here.
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I don't know.
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Obviously it must be a big thing that you guys are near Texas where it happens.
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We go to the grassy knoll often because it's just in the middle of Dallas.
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No way.
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Honestly, that is insane.
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My password is literally 11-22-63 because I've read the Stephen King books.
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Not exactly a biography.
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Now everyone knows Ash's password, you just steal all of this stuff he's gonna log in after this drops and be like what's what's happened just just beat that out.
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Honestly, I have to like change everything my passcode um, so yeah, okay, all right, all right, um, but uh, no, uh, I know I love this movie.
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I think it's just.
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This movie from beginning to end is fun.
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I I do agree with nick it's a little long.
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I think the older I get, the more I do go.
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We did not need the 20 minute car chase through san francisco.
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It's a ton of fun, sure, but I don't know that we needed it in the movie no, no, it apparently was just michael bay was wanting to do it for, as a nod to bullet, the movie from 68.
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Yeah, and then connery, like he's rumored to have insisted on filming something in san francisco because he wanted to enjoy the city's golf courses during production connery's like so we're gonna film a car chase, that's gonna take six weeks.
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Yes, so I can golf well, how long is it perfect?
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that's a good point, because apparently they were all on alcatraz and he wanted to build a trailer on alcatraz and they refused, so he had to stay on a hotel and keep bringing him back and forth.
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Then, like well, can we just shoot a scene in San Fran to show that we're there, because all like the interior stuff wasn't in San Fran at all, which is why I read, so they weren't really in San Fran at or mainland San Fran for a lot, a lot of it.
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Which is why I think I actually enjoyed the car chase scene, because I think I think it was Catherine Bigelow.
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You know she did Point Break and they have that famous chase sequence that's meant to be like the best sequence of all.
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She was saying that the reason and I actually kind of agree with Corey, because someone asked me the question if you could take 10, 20 minutes out, what scene would it be?
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And it would be the car chase scene.
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No-transcript, clever, and you can.
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I think the geography of where the both, both the cars are are really well done.
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Um, but I also agree with cory that if there's a scene that you need to take out, that's the one.
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Yeah, I'm trying to think of another scene, but I can't, I think that, no, no, every other scene has to stay in.
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Yeah, you can all of them.
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You can literally cut from him escaping the hotel to him meeting up with his, yeah, his daughter.
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Um, yeah, like in my and I'll say this about the car chase scene.
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I think it hurts nicholas cage's character a little bit, because it's like he kind of turns into a superhero.
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For about five minutes he does like.
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All of a sudden he turns into like God in 60 seconds, nicholas Cage for a good like three minutes and it's like oh, I'm really good at driving and it's kind of like you're supposed to be a nerdy biochemist that drives a Volvo.
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Why are you handling that Ferrari so well?
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How are you able to do this?
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That's the thing.
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Do you know, it wasn't even that, but you're 100.
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It's when he pushes that kid off the bike and he's like you just fucked up your ferrari, and then he's like it's not mine, and then he pushes the boy aggressively off the bike.
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I'm like that's kind of odd character.
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You're kind of a nerd.
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Why you wouldn't be that aggressive, you kind of.
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And so and I agree with cory, like yeah, he definitely goes for memphis rains on the, uh, the car chase scene and uh, yeah, the guy off the bike, and then does the detective work to find out where jade is all in like you know five minutes.
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I'm like, okay, is he really the lab technician that was listening to the beatles earlier, or have we just gone?
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yeah it just it's it, does it's it's, it's it.
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For a movie that's long, it doesn't actually serve that much of a purpose other than a giant set piece, and I think for every character and everything it just kind of weirdly like does it's almost crowbarred in, even like sean connery driving a hummer, like like it's like dude, he would have hit something immediately that those things are like eight feet wide.
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You know, those are like.
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They're just not maneuverable, it's not a car chase car and so it's just, it's kind of like it's a little all over the place, but can I ask another question?
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so that's the scene that you take out.
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So let me ask you the opposite question what is the best scene in the movie?
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What's the scene in the movie that sort of defines what the rock is about?
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What would you say that scene is?
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I'll just say there's two goosebumps scenes in this movie there's the shower room scene is b.
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It's michael bean's best performance in anything and I it.
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Just he delivers those lines with such conviction and you're just like hell yes, and it's so disturbing that they just immediately all get killed.
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You're like, oh man, I was in it.
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And then, uh, I do think the green smoke scene at the end is also just really powerful yeah, when he the final fight with the guy and with the last bit of the bomb, and then he stabs himself in the heart and then comes out and is waving the smoke and the guy's like we got green smoke, pull up pull up.
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Oh shit, I dropped it.
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Yeah, no, no, that last sequence, I think it's like on the poster or on the DVD of like Nicolas Cage is holding those two green flares right at the end.
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Um, yeah, no, definitely, definitely.
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I would try and find a scene with sean connery in it.
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But nicholas, because this is another debate as well, because nicholas cage is the main character, sean connery is sort of.
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Sean connery is actually the kind of eye candy, if anything.
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I don't know if am I right he's he's the lovable rogue of the movie, the jack sparrow, the han solo type, like he's.
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He's the guy who's a little too cool like to be the main character because like his growth uh isn't essentially tied to saving the world or anything like he does want to like do right and like get back with his daughter and stuff, but for him this is just one last uh joy ride outside of prison kind of thing.
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Yeah, I would say my favorite scene of his is the escape from the hotel room.
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That's just Connery at his pure essentialness, because the rest of it, the best parts of Connery for me in that, is all his one-liners he's just throwing at Cage, like the homecoming queen line or the prom queen, that's right.
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Oh my gosh, it's so good.
00:28:02.130 --> 00:28:03.073
No, I completely agree.
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I can.
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Oh my gosh, it's so really.
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No, I completely agree.
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I can't believe none of you said I I the scene where they first meet in the interrogation room, when he's trying to pretend to be in there and he's like it's a good one.
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I just, I just the opening scene or that, the scene where they first meet, where they're trying to suss each other out and he's completely got his number and nicholas cage is nervous as hell, which is exactly where, if you see that character, and then three hours later he's driving a porsche or ferrari right, you know it's interesting.
00:28:28.192 --> 00:28:34.933
But yeah, I kind of like, um, I was like he figures him out by, uh, translating what he's just said in greek or latin.
00:28:34.933 --> 00:28:43.163
Um, the whole moral aspect of him ripping off or the contract, it just it just says a lot to the audience between these two characters like that.
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Sean connery is indeed quoting all these people that were wrongfully put in prison, which gives you an idea of oh okay, maybe he's not such a bad guy, which I think you have that some way, cause you're kind of rooting for him even though you don't know you should be, and you also.
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This is the really cool thing as well.
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What winds us?
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are you sympath Hummel's character as well?
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I mean, is he actually a villain in this movie, would you say?
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I think for the most part, but he redeems himself in the sense of like who, ed Harris?
00:29:12.432 --> 00:29:14.926
Oh, he's an anti villain, yeah he believe he's Thanos.
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He believes wholeheartedly in what he's doing.
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Yeah, I would say.
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But I'd say he's even more of an anti villain than Thanos.
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Thanos wants to kill half the planet.
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This guy just wants he and like I think ed harris from the very beginning knows he's bluffing.
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Yeah, I think that's the biggest reason we can see him as, like this, really anti-villain.
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He feels backed into a corner.
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He feels he has to do something.
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But at no point do I ever think ed harris genuinely thinks he's going to kill someone.
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He is.
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He is bluffing with like eight deuce offsuit in poker.
00:29:40.584 --> 00:29:55.067
He is just like he's got nothing other than a slim chance that someone's gonna like hit the river yeah yeah no, and I was gonna ask as well, because obviously he makes no attempts to try and become the villain like he's gone this far.
00:29:55.067 --> 00:29:56.951
He steals the vx gas, he loses his own men.
00:29:56.951 --> 00:29:58.582
He doesn't want to kill.
00:29:58.582 --> 00:30:01.030
You know michael bean's character and he regrets it.
00:30:01.030 --> 00:30:04.588
Everyone that dies in the process is not due to him.
00:30:04.650 --> 00:30:18.743
It's due to mistakes that happen during the process of what he's doing sure, yeah, and I mean it's not go ahead, sorry no, no, I find it very interesting, like the opening scene is like his wife's grave it's he had to wait for her to die for him to do this.
00:30:18.743 --> 00:30:20.228
He couldn't do that with her alive.
00:30:20.228 --> 00:30:29.088
To see what he's about to do, I also think that's a very big tell on yeah, what is like where his moral compass lies for him to wait for his wife to do something like that?
00:30:29.369 --> 00:30:30.541
and he even calls it right at the end.
00:30:30.541 --> 00:30:33.855
He's like, look, we bluffed, they called missions over, um.
00:30:33.855 --> 00:30:40.162
He even says outright, he doesn't even try and hide it, um, yeah, he rock it out of, maybe peer pressure, but then he soon gets rid of it.
00:30:40.162 --> 00:30:50.586
So I find him a very interesting anti-villain, I would say, because there's, and you know, sean connery even says I mean it's basically read to the audience like I read his eyes and nicholas cage is like, oh well, I guess everything's just fine.
00:30:50.586 --> 00:31:01.446
But I think, as the audience we all know, you know, as cory said, that there's not one part of us who believes that he was going to go through with it, which is makes it for the movie yeah, he's very much a villain.
00:31:01.465 --> 00:31:05.992
who who has cause, and those are generally better villains.
00:31:05.992 --> 00:31:08.355
But he even has his limitations as a villain.
00:31:08.355 --> 00:31:11.650
He's not going to go down with the ship or his ego doesn't get in the way.
00:31:11.650 --> 00:31:15.490
He's very much different in the sense that it's like okay, they got me, I won.
00:31:15.490 --> 00:31:22.551
He's not going to just do it out of spite or something, and the problem is he just happened to hire all these crazy people around him and they're the ones that want to keep it going.
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:29.047
Yeah, around him, and they're the ones that want to keep it going.
00:31:29.047 --> 00:31:29.990
Yeah, yeah, the mercenaries extremist.
00:31:29.990 --> 00:31:31.656
Yeah, candy man at his best yeah, definitely, but did you guys want go ahead?
00:31:31.656 --> 00:31:37.301
Did you think that was a weird role for tony todd coming off the like candy man in a few films in the early 90s, or was it a good role for him?
00:31:38.205 --> 00:31:39.109
I feel like that again.
00:31:39.150 --> 00:31:52.348
It's another role that they played off of expectation of, like you see tony todd and you think candy man or like I don't know final destination is it's not even out yet but like I think that they play off of that to an extent, like oh well, yeah, tony todd, of course he's gonna be one of the crazy guys.
00:31:52.348 --> 00:32:00.845
And then when he becomes basically the de facto one of two main villains, at the end it becomes like oh yeah, I definitely, he's definitely like in the right spot.
00:32:00.845 --> 00:32:03.269
I feel like yeah, for sure.
00:32:03.349 --> 00:32:08.269
Cause he hasn't been overcast at that point he hadn't been overcast as like a villain by any means.
00:32:08.269 --> 00:32:11.906
You know, you get a lot of actors that have that problem where it's and and like the work.
00:32:11.906 --> 00:32:13.009
When the work's good, the work's good.
00:32:13.009 --> 00:32:20.766
But like you, you run into the problem of just being typecast in in a bad way yeah, yeah, I feel like that.
00:32:20.826 --> 00:32:27.546
That's sort of what's happened with um the, the guy from gladiator digimon who soon?
00:32:27.546 --> 00:32:29.730
Oh yeah, because he recently did an interview.
00:32:29.730 --> 00:32:43.163
Just he's got two academy award nominations and the man still struggling to find work and every role he has to accept is because of money, are very stereotypical supporting roles and he's like I've got two academy award nominations.
00:32:43.163 --> 00:32:44.181
How has this happened?
00:32:44.181 --> 00:32:51.647
You know, like blood diamond, they thought okay, well, listen, after amstead, blood diamond, I thought working with big directors as well, like, surely you know?
00:32:51.909 --> 00:32:54.061
why you know he's done all the right things like he's.
00:32:54.061 --> 00:32:55.707
He's been in classic movies.
00:32:55.707 --> 00:32:57.611
He's played great roles in them and he's.
00:32:57.711 --> 00:32:58.259
He's a good actor.
00:32:58.259 --> 00:32:59.221
He's a very good actor.
00:32:59.221 --> 00:33:12.333
Like you believe him in everything he does and he's had to sort of resort to these like really supporting even, like you know, roles in like captain marvel, these like roles that, yes, in hyphenated stereotypical for him and yeah, and they don't.
00:33:12.333 --> 00:33:15.210
He's obviously got acting abilities that haven't been exploited.
00:33:15.210 --> 00:33:16.676
He's just and he's outright.
00:33:16.676 --> 00:33:31.146
He just said he's just getting paycheck to paycheck, he's just taking the money because he needs, he's working for a living, he's trying to support a family and I find that he's in the same category of me of like a sam rockwell, where it's like the second you see him in a movie, it's already improved the movie.
00:33:31.508 --> 00:33:33.480
I'm like, yes, he's in it, awesome.
00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:34.664
Yeah, I'm locked in.
00:33:34.664 --> 00:33:43.392
So I'm surprised that he has trouble getting movies because like, yeah, if I had a chance to cast him but yeah, cast him, they'd well, does it matter that he has this very strong accent and stuff?
00:33:43.392 --> 00:33:44.782
No, it doesn't, we'll work around that.
00:33:44.782 --> 00:33:45.846
It's Digimon Honsu.
00:33:45.846 --> 00:33:47.846
Yeah, and I think people have a.
00:33:47.846 --> 00:33:54.382
It feels like Hollywood movie producers have some issue with that, where they're like, well, he's, you know, it's hard to believe.
00:33:54.382 --> 00:33:56.028
It's like it's 2025.
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:04.682
People immigrate.
00:34:04.682 --> 00:34:12.168
Like you can explain it in five seconds or less, like, yeah, it's just, it's just falling into a crack where he's just working for a living and the place he's working is hollywood, which is a very, you know, interesting dynamic to sort of like look at as a case study.
00:34:12.168 --> 00:34:17.760
Like sam rocker was very much, like you said, in danger of becoming that, but I think he started to become well known, more established.
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:21.188
He was getting roles, got his oscar and, you know, love him Got his Oscar.
00:34:21.708 --> 00:34:23.733
Yep, yep, yep, yeah, very sad.
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:25.425
There's also something we have to discuss.
00:34:25.425 --> 00:34:31.271
I've already done my James Bond theory, but how about the theory that this is the same world as Armageddon?
00:34:31.271 --> 00:34:32.545
Because it's the same president.
00:34:34.101 --> 00:34:35.688
Ooh, didn't know that one.
00:34:35.900 --> 00:34:39.550
Yep, the same president in Armageddon and the Rock, and they both give monologues.
00:34:39.990 --> 00:34:40.472
That's right.
00:34:40.472 --> 00:34:43.983
The and they both give monologues.
00:34:43.983 --> 00:34:44.527
That's right.
00:34:44.527 --> 00:34:47.059
The big question, corey, is this after they saved the world from the asteroid, or before?
00:34:47.621 --> 00:34:48.746
I feel like it's got to be before.
00:34:48.746 --> 00:34:55.630
I feel like Hummel's not going to do this after something as chaotic as you know, trying to nuke.
00:34:55.630 --> 00:35:04.005
Yeah, set off the nuke on the asteroid the world just got saved and he's like all right, I'm going to hold San Francisco hostage just got saved and he's like all right, I'm gonna hold san francisco hostage.
00:35:04.005 --> 00:35:04.708
That's a little raw, yeah you know.
00:35:04.768 --> 00:35:14.983
So I think you know it's more, it makes more sense from a progression standpoint that it's like okay, this guy tried to fire on san francisco, he's definitely gonna fire on the, the rock and the pearling towards us.
00:35:15.045 --> 00:35:16.306
So I mean like it's.
00:35:16.306 --> 00:35:17.009
It's just.
00:35:17.009 --> 00:35:19.152
This is the like.
00:35:19.152 --> 00:35:20.942
This president just had a shit term.
00:35:20.942 --> 00:35:31.534
Yeah, as soon as this is resolved, some people come in and say Listen, we've spotted something in space.
00:35:31.534 --> 00:35:33.795
And he's like Are you serious?
00:35:33.795 --> 00:35:36.882
We just defeated Ed Harris.
00:35:36.882 --> 00:35:37.927
We just saved San Francisco.
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:40.025
Well, now you've got the world, sir.
00:35:40.626 --> 00:35:41.188
Oh man.
00:35:41.188 --> 00:35:44.885
That president, he did not run for re-election.
00:35:44.965 --> 00:35:45.085
No.
00:35:45.166 --> 00:35:46.608
He's just like I'm out, I'm tired.
00:35:46.688 --> 00:35:48.132
I'm tired, he was done, he was done?
00:35:48.233 --> 00:35:48.914
Yeah, for sure.
00:35:48.914 --> 00:35:55.126
But Nicolas Cage was sort of watching the news after relaxing with his JFK files in his hand, going oh, this is cool.
00:35:55.126 --> 00:35:56.086
Oh wait, the world's ending now.
00:35:56.086 --> 00:35:59.871
Might as well to the world now, or something.
00:35:59.871 --> 00:36:03.775
Can you imagine Mason coming out of prison after like 30 years?
00:36:03.775 --> 00:36:06.385
Oh, an asteroid hit Earth in 18 days.
00:36:06.385 --> 00:36:07.068
It's like great.
00:36:08.342 --> 00:36:09.164
He finally gets free.
00:36:09.164 --> 00:36:10.804
And then, yeah, it's like the asteroid shows up.
00:36:10.804 --> 00:36:22.268
He's like oh crap, of course this is the way it would go, so before we move forward, guys, do you want to hear any guesses what Roger Ebert's score for this movie is?
00:36:22.728 --> 00:36:24.485
I don't know, really disappointing.
00:36:24.820 --> 00:36:25.684
Give me a wild guess.
00:36:25.684 --> 00:36:27.228
Go on, Corey.
00:36:28.179 --> 00:36:30.306
The movie's fun, so I bet he gave it like two.
00:36:31.009 --> 00:36:33.784
Okay Ash, I'm being a bit more optimistic.
00:36:33.784 --> 00:36:34.547
I'm going to say three.
00:36:35.739 --> 00:36:37.505
He gave it a 3.5 out of four.
00:36:37.525 --> 00:36:38.188
Hell yeah.
00:36:38.248 --> 00:36:41.108
Roger, he gave something good, a good score.
00:36:41.108 --> 00:36:41.690
Yeah, he said that, the Rock.
00:36:41.710 --> 00:36:46.690
Yeah, roger, about time he gave something good, a good score, yeah, oh man he said that the Rock is a first-rate slam-bang action thriller.
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:53.007
It's made out of pieces of other movies, yes, and not as much in it as really new, but each element has been lovingly polished to a gloss.
00:36:53.007 --> 00:36:56.409
So there's a little backhanded compliment in there, but he enjoyed the ride.
00:36:56.409 --> 00:36:58.920
It's in there, for sure.
00:36:59.161 --> 00:37:10.492
Because it's very much clearly a ride and it's kind of like what Corey said you are there to have fun and Armageddon is definitely the epitome of just having fun with the movie with a big, all-star cast.
00:37:10.492 --> 00:37:15.257
But the Rock you just can't not have fun when you have this on-screen chemistry.
00:37:15.257 --> 00:37:29.543
And I think the on-screen chemistry between Cage and Connery, much like Harrison Ford and Con connery in last crusade, carries the film and it doesn't even need to carry the film because there's so much else going on, because hummel does well, michael bean, in a short role, does well.
00:37:29.543 --> 00:37:36.851
Yeah, this bx serum gas, this, this green colored ball that causes this disgusting monologue from nicholas cage.
00:37:36.891 --> 00:37:42.210
I mean, there are there's scenes all over this place that you can sort of extrapolate and say this is an awesome scene, this is an awesome scene.
00:37:42.210 --> 00:37:43.836
The haircut scene is an awesome scene.
00:37:43.836 --> 00:37:52.648
The interrogation is an awesome scene and and in between it you have moments between nicholas cage and sean connery which I think are the the magic moments when them two are sharing the screen together.
00:37:52.648 --> 00:37:54.152
Um, but yeah, it's.
00:37:54.152 --> 00:37:55.382
It's just hard not to like.
00:37:55.382 --> 00:37:58.686
I mean, it's a, but it's almost a buddy, a buddy comedy, I could, I guess.
00:37:58.786 --> 00:38:04.672
I guess by definition, sure, yeah, I'd agree with that, corey.
00:38:04.954 --> 00:38:05.835
Yeah, no, I agree.
00:38:07.019 --> 00:38:08.463
Cool.
00:38:08.463 --> 00:38:09.304
Any other final thoughts?
00:38:09.304 --> 00:38:13.713
Before we decide to do the thing that we do, I would ask one more question.
00:38:18.179 --> 00:38:22.500
We're about to recast these two, well, a few people in this movie.
00:38:22.500 --> 00:38:33.452
If this film, I mean in terms of chemistry between two men and I'm going to say two men, because there are two men in this movie sure can you think of any other film where there's chemistry that I mean outside of michael base and no bad boys here.
00:38:33.452 --> 00:38:36.822
Okay, can you think of a good chemistry like them two?
00:38:36.822 --> 00:38:40.882
Like because they're both opposites, and I think it works when they're just two completely different people.
00:38:40.882 --> 00:38:46.132
Can you think of like a film or a film where two actors just nail it, kill it.
00:38:46.132 --> 00:38:50.503
The chemistry just carries the movie besides this, like one that kind of tops the rock.
00:38:51.065 --> 00:38:55.246
Hmm, I mean you could probably put die hard with a vengeance up there with.
00:38:55.266 --> 00:38:55.465
Sam.
00:38:55.505 --> 00:38:56.447
Jackson and Bruce Willis.
00:38:56.789 --> 00:38:57.690
That's a lot of fun.
00:38:57.690 --> 00:38:58.934
Yeah, that's a good one.
00:38:58.934 --> 00:39:00.663
Yeah, that's a good one, yeah, cause they are having fun, aren't they In?
00:39:00.903 --> 00:39:01.164
that film.
00:39:01.164 --> 00:39:08.568
You could argue that oceans 11, Brad Pitt and Clooney, if it's, if you're, but it's more of an ensemble and it is really just those two.
00:39:08.568 --> 00:39:10.706
It's like a stomach balance, Isn't it?
00:39:10.706 --> 00:39:11.186
Them too.
00:39:11.226 --> 00:39:12.130
Yeah, yeah.
00:39:12.170 --> 00:39:18.204
But but another Clooney is from dusk till dawn.
00:39:18.304 --> 00:39:21.726
What about Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan?
00:39:21.766 --> 00:39:22.567
I mean, that's the one.
00:39:22.567 --> 00:39:23.626
I think that's the other one.
00:39:23.827 --> 00:39:26.670
That's probably it I would say that's the one to beat, wouldn't you?
00:39:26.670 --> 00:39:32.653
If I think classic duos, I mean that's got to be it, I mean it's magic.
00:39:32.653 --> 00:39:38.978
It's two completely different people, two cultures, two different worlds throughout two free movies.
00:39:38.978 --> 00:39:41.202
Yeah, I think that is the one to beat in terms of.
00:39:41.985 --> 00:39:52.273
I think it just it defines what it should be, that genre, yeah, I would also throw out Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones in Men in Black because that's a young and old dynamic as well.
00:39:52.273 --> 00:39:58.208
That's really good, you know, a real up-and-comer with a seasoned vet that just play off each other super well.
00:39:58.309 --> 00:40:04.719
I love that we need a buddy cop movie in the MCU.
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:06.302
Is there not?
00:40:06.302 --> 00:40:09.010
One already Athow and Lennon's made a lot of movies together.
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:10.784
Oh, like Grumpy, Old Men yeah.
00:40:14.266 --> 00:40:15.048
Is there a buddy cop one?
00:40:15.048 --> 00:40:15.760
I would say.
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:18.369
The Winter Soldier and the Falcon are buddy comedy films.
00:40:18.710 --> 00:40:23.063
Oh yeah, they try to be very serious.
00:40:23.063 --> 00:40:25.045
They try to be kind of serious with that one too.
00:40:25.045 --> 00:40:28.148
I think that's what pulls it a little away from its full potential.
00:40:28.148 --> 00:40:33.686
Honestly, the new Captain America movie probably should have been a buddy cop movie with him and Bucky.
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:39.141
To be honest, I thought so as well, because they did the TV series and that was okay, but it wasn't too much of them to like.
00:40:39.141 --> 00:40:47.536
I think you know stark and captain america had the potential to do a buddy comedy, but they it's just going on in civil war that there wasn't enough time to just have to.
00:40:47.536 --> 00:40:49.603
They had a moment in the game, didn't they?
00:40:49.603 --> 00:40:53.032
When they went back in time yeah, yeah, there's, there's.
00:40:53.179 --> 00:40:57.378
There's been pairings, not not full movies built around yeah, yeah, true, true, yeah.
00:40:57.398 --> 00:40:58.181
You're absolutely right there.
00:40:58.202 --> 00:41:01.974
I mean, we have any loki and thor, loki and hulk, or I mean I mean have Loki and Thor, loki and Thor, loki and Hulk.
00:41:01.974 --> 00:41:03.018
I mean Thor and Hulk.
00:41:04.222 --> 00:41:09.565
We haven't even mentioned the actual prototype of Gibson and Glover.
00:41:09.565 --> 00:41:10.289
That's true.
00:41:10.289 --> 00:41:12.965
It's literally the buddy cop.
00:41:12.965 --> 00:41:13.306
Blueprint.
00:41:14.802 --> 00:41:16.128
Or you go back to 48 Hours.
00:41:18.280 --> 00:41:20.208
But Gibson and Glover got way more movies out of theirs.
00:41:21.362 --> 00:41:22.284
I retract my statement.
00:41:22.284 --> 00:41:22.905
Okay, hold on.
00:41:22.905 --> 00:41:24.407
It's notucker and jackie chan.
00:41:24.407 --> 00:41:27.132
It is mel gibson and danny glover.
00:41:27.132 --> 00:41:29.168
I mean, I just love those films.
00:41:29.168 --> 00:41:34.128
They're just so good and just they are they're still trying to make one more, yeah yeah, I hope they do.
00:41:34.128 --> 00:41:35.733
Isn't the director then, richard donner?
00:41:35.974 --> 00:41:41.369
he passed, yeah, and he gave permission to gibson to direct the last one so he's doing the passion.
00:41:41.730 --> 00:41:42.791
Uh, sequel, isn't he at the moment?
00:41:42.811 --> 00:41:44.041
yeah, I guess he's doing.
00:41:44.742 --> 00:41:47.487
Yeah, the christ too yeah, the return of this.
00:41:47.487 --> 00:41:49.893
What's the sequel?
00:41:49.952 --> 00:42:02.271
I think it's about him, either when he gets back from his three days or it's about the three days okay, I watched this podcast with joe rogan and joe rogan asked him like, what is the story behind the sequel?
00:42:02.291 --> 00:42:05.809
when he goes well, I'm gonna try and tackle something that's never been before.
00:42:05.809 --> 00:42:07.465
He doesn't have to visualize it, and he's basically.
00:42:07.465 --> 00:42:08.994
He hinted, well, he didn't hit.
00:42:08.994 --> 00:42:11.704
He's confirmed it now that he's gonna show scenes in hell and heaven.
00:42:11.704 --> 00:42:19.867
Uh, because he needs to show why the people in hell are so attracted to people on earth, and he's trying to show that narrative in a film.
00:42:19.867 --> 00:42:28.331
And he wasn't sure how he was gonna do that, but he is gonna give it a go, apparently, so okay since hollywood won't make paradise lost, he's gonna make paradise lost.
00:42:28.351 --> 00:42:30.045
Man, I was really excited.
00:42:30.907 --> 00:42:32.813
I was really excited about paradise lost as a film.
00:42:32.813 --> 00:42:36.766
Like they, they're a little afraid to tackle all of the heaven and hell stuff.
00:42:36.766 --> 00:42:41.603
I feel like a little bit, and understandably so yeah, no, they should, they should definitely do it.
00:42:41.744 --> 00:42:57.528
I don't think I've seen a good film that really takes that seriously, honestly well, now we're in this age where a lot of like you know the biblical epics, the greek epics that we've seen in the past that featured the gods or god uh proper, like they, the, the uh, cgi.
00:42:57.528 --> 00:43:05.269
The effects weren't up to date to like, really, I felt like the clash of the titans movies did a decent job of portraying them, but the movies themselves just didn't hold up.
00:43:05.269 --> 00:43:12.938
So I I would be excited for like, like uh, nolan's uh odyssey I'm excited to see what how far he goes into it, but.
00:43:13.099 --> 00:43:16.182
But he's also grounded in reality, so I don't know how much we're going to get to see.
00:43:16.403 --> 00:43:18.646
So well, that's the thing I think it's just going to be.
00:43:18.646 --> 00:43:20.909
I don't think there's going to be much in terms of cv.
00:43:20.909 --> 00:43:28.264
I think it'll be an epic, but I don't think there'll be much special effects going on, sure I think it'd be like a journey, which I guess will be.
00:43:28.264 --> 00:43:34.500
Yeah, but yeah, gibson glover, yeah, I like that well, cory ash, are you ready?
00:43:35.101 --> 00:43:35.481
is it time?
00:43:35.782 --> 00:43:43.065
it's time man all right but yeah, for those of you that have never followed the show before, this is the part that we have our title off of.
00:43:43.065 --> 00:43:46.413
We recast things forwards, backwards, different casts and stuff.
00:43:46.413 --> 00:43:50.269
This year it's all about free will and dealing, so each of us have our own cast.
00:43:50.269 --> 00:43:54.012
We don't have a uh quote unquote director that's going to pick between two of our casts.
00:43:54.012 --> 00:43:57.126
We're just giving our visions for different versions of this movie.
00:43:57.126 --> 00:44:04.070
So, uh, I'm doing just the usual standard of a modern recasting of it, but you guys are doing something unique.
00:44:04.070 --> 00:44:04.922
Both of you are.
00:44:05.545 --> 00:44:05.786
Yes.
00:44:05.786 --> 00:44:07.565
What is Ash doing?
00:44:07.565 --> 00:44:08.701
I have no idea what Ash is doing.
00:44:09.485 --> 00:44:16.188
I am picking or recasting actors from the Rock that have appeared in a DC production.
00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:17.643
DC.
00:44:17.643 --> 00:44:19.525
Okay, that's a little bit harder than MCU.
00:44:19.525 --> 00:44:21.465
I was like, if you did MCU, you're just going to make whatever Nick makes.
00:44:22.481 --> 00:44:28.983
Just every popular actor ever of the modern era has showed up in one of those movies.
00:44:29.143 --> 00:44:33.306
Okay, all right, I we're coming off.
00:44:33.306 --> 00:44:35.724
We're coming off WrestleMania weekend, that's true.
00:44:35.724 --> 00:44:37.403
So I'm doing all pro wrestlers.
00:44:38.025 --> 00:44:38.782
I love that.
00:44:38.782 --> 00:44:39.585
That's amazing.
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:41.143
But I am.
00:44:41.143 --> 00:44:42.588
I'm not doing like all time.
00:44:42.588 --> 00:44:48.648
I am doing current or alive Like can play the part currently.
00:44:49.820 --> 00:44:51.226
That's so much more fun than mine.
00:44:51.226 --> 00:44:53.487
I could put Al Snow as Mason or something.
00:44:53.487 --> 00:44:58.963
Oh man, I'm looking forward to your list.
00:44:58.983 --> 00:44:59.224
Corey.
00:44:59.244 --> 00:45:01.148
I did not make my list.
00:45:01.208 --> 00:45:01.769
I am so sorry.
00:45:04.260 --> 00:45:05.186
I'm looking forward to your list, Corey.
00:45:05.186 --> 00:45:05.768
Honestly, I can't wait.
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:16.603
So, as we always do, we have some you know what we call the 30 seconds of our list are under the radar characters, and then we have like six, what we have quote unquote, main character types.
00:45:16.603 --> 00:45:23.971
But we'll just I believe we just agreed that we would just go up the list and each of us would present our characters and just keep going that way.
00:45:23.971 --> 00:45:25.719
Yes, so to keep it simple.
00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:27.947
So, if you're listening, just try to keep along with us.
00:45:27.947 --> 00:45:31.630
We'll try to keep reminding you what everybody's doing and we'll go from there.
00:45:31.630 --> 00:45:34.989
Corey, do you want to flip the imaginary three way coin to see who goes first?
00:45:36.240 --> 00:45:53.217
I should probably just I cast it more than y'all, ok, so I should probably just tidy up a little bit at the bottom, okay, okay, because I will say this I think a really fun thing about this movie is that not only does Ed Harris is this anti-villain, but he also manages to find a bunch of Marines to go along with them.
00:45:53.277 --> 00:46:08.907
True, you know and one of the best parts of this movie, though, is you have Marines that are on his side, that they're doing it for what they believe is an injustice, and then you actually have Marines that are like they are genuine psychopaths, right, and they want to be like evil.
00:46:09.007 --> 00:46:12.668
They, you know, like there's also a believable like reason for what they're doing.
00:46:12.688 --> 00:46:23.579
Yes, and so like it, it is interesting, and so I do think a lot of like the really fun thing about this movie is there's weirdly a lot of well-known people playing these marines with.
00:46:23.579 --> 00:46:29.240
Like, yeah, like like, john c mcginley is one of the bad guys you know, everyone knows him from scrubs.
00:46:29.240 --> 00:46:33.273
Okay, um, he's literally one of the like bad guy marines you have.
00:46:33.273 --> 00:46:36.101
Bokeem woodbine is like one you know and like.
00:46:36.101 --> 00:46:39.501
So I mean, there's all these kind of like recognizable faces in the background of these movies.
00:46:39.501 --> 00:46:47.081
So I just wanted to make I just gave, I made a list of who I think should be background marines.
00:46:47.081 --> 00:46:53.784
Okay, that is going to be samoa joe, adam, page, swerve, strickland, jade, garfield, ray, ripley, kitty, omega.
00:46:53.784 --> 00:46:54.567
Those are.
00:46:54.567 --> 00:46:56.190
Those are just background through in rhea ripley.
00:46:56.311 --> 00:47:04.746
Yeah, he got us a nice badass female marine and jade car like okay, okay, they're massive, they're both massive they are, they are so but like, but you know what I'm saying.
00:47:04.766 --> 00:47:07.695
Like you have like the one and Jade Cargill, they're massive, they're both massive, they are.
00:47:07.695 --> 00:47:09.739
But you have the one that's a sniper, you have the one that boxes Sean Connery.
00:47:09.739 --> 00:47:12.864
There's all these no-name Marines that get these weird moments in the movie, so I was just going to fill those out with some wrestlers Okay.
00:47:12.864 --> 00:47:15.248
I also casted the president.
00:47:16.782 --> 00:47:17.523
That is Ric Flair.
00:47:19.429 --> 00:47:19.789
Who else?
00:47:19.789 --> 00:47:20.871
Who else?
00:47:20.871 --> 00:47:24.963
Ric Flair is the president because he has to give a promo.
00:47:24.963 --> 00:47:27.710
Only thing he does in this movie is just give a promo all right, okay, no bumps.
00:47:27.710 --> 00:47:41.331
No bumps in this movie um, and then, uh, I did cast john c mcginley and bokeem woodbine's characters, just because they do have like kind of lines and things, um, and that is seth rollins and roman reigns okay, yeah, all right, and that's that's who those are.
00:47:41.351 --> 00:47:42.034
Who, what characters?
00:47:42.456 --> 00:47:46.307
uh, john c mcginley plays captain hendrix and uh, bokeem woodbine plays sergeant crisp.
00:47:46.307 --> 00:47:48.101
I have seth rollins, the sergeant crisp.
00:47:48.101 --> 00:47:49.403
Um, he's gonna get shot in the throat.
00:47:49.403 --> 00:47:52.070
Um, during the mexican standoff, of course.
00:47:52.070 --> 00:47:56.429
And uh, roman reigns will be set on fire during the uh, mine cart chase.
00:47:56.451 --> 00:47:59.661
Okay, so nice, nice, very nice, very nice.
00:47:59.661 --> 00:48:02.507
I like it, I like the shield down.
00:48:02.507 --> 00:48:06.346
Okay, some more to go maybe, so all right.
00:48:06.346 --> 00:48:10.849
Well, I met Captain Fry and Captain Darrow.
00:48:10.949 --> 00:48:11.971
Yes, is that where you're at now?
00:48:11.971 --> 00:48:13.114
That's where we started, I believe.
00:48:13.219 --> 00:48:14.987
Okay, Ash, are you on pace with us as well?
00:48:15.601 --> 00:48:16.846
I am now on pace.
00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:24.507
Yeah, I mean, I'm really looking forward to those Marines Excellent excellent, looking for, really afforded those, seeing those, uh, marines, excellent, sorry.
00:48:24.507 --> 00:48:25.934
So, uh, I'll give you the quick, the quick rundown for these characters.
00:48:25.934 --> 00:48:26.980
Uh, captain fry is played by gregory, spore leader.
00:48:26.980 --> 00:48:29.248
He's in twister, blackhawk down, true romance.
00:48:29.248 --> 00:48:33.021
And then you have, obviously, tony todd playing captain darrow of candy man.
00:48:33.021 --> 00:48:36.811
Final destination, the crow and hatchet in 2006, apparently, yes.
00:48:36.811 --> 00:48:45.679
So, uh, tony todd improvised several of his uh, more intense lines and, uh, and Gregory, he leaned into the manic energy for Fry, yes, staying in character between takes.
00:48:46.141 --> 00:48:49.231
These are two of the Marines that genuinely are not bluffing.
00:48:49.231 --> 00:48:51.626
They intend on fully killing.
00:48:51.686 --> 00:48:53.451
San Francisco if they don't get paid Right.
00:48:53.451 --> 00:48:55.166
Yes, they're the ones that turn fully.
00:48:55.166 --> 00:48:56.947
They do a double heel turn.
00:48:57.039 --> 00:48:59.728
They're, weirdly, the only genuine heels in the movie.
00:48:59.728 --> 00:49:00.690
It's true, it's these two guys.
00:49:00.690 --> 00:49:09.170
Yeah, I mean, some of the other Marines are also bad guys, but these are the two primary villains, because Ed Harris and David Morse are, like, not their anti-villain.
00:49:09.230 --> 00:49:09.429
Right.
00:49:09.429 --> 00:49:16.447
So yeah, for sure, for sure, ash, as the guest of the episode, I will have you go first with your cast list.
00:49:16.447 --> 00:49:18.570
And it's DC, only DC actors.
00:49:18.751 --> 00:49:23.576
Yeah, well, I've actually I've made it harder for myself, so I've picked a year and I've gone for a theme.
00:49:23.576 --> 00:49:25.096
So I've done DC in the year 1994.
00:49:25.096 --> 00:49:29.447
Around, yeah, around that area 94?
00:49:30.068 --> 00:49:31.693
94, yeah, 94.
00:49:31.693 --> 00:49:36.407
So you're getting actors from that period of time, or they are like current DCU.
00:49:37.659 --> 00:49:40.521
Basically, I will be casting them as they look in 1994.
00:49:40.521 --> 00:49:43.572
Okay, I will be casting them as they look in 1994.
00:49:43.572 --> 00:49:45.014
Okay, okay, cool, go right ahead, okay.
00:49:45.014 --> 00:49:55.056
So basically, I have got for Fry good old, and this is staying with the themes of DC Scar himself.
00:49:55.056 --> 00:49:59.806
Jeremy Irons I've got, and if you look at a picture of him in 1994, I believe he was doing the voice of Scar at the time.
00:49:59.806 --> 00:50:02.786
Yes, he's a very young fit.
00:50:02.786 --> 00:50:05.922
I mean, you've seen Die hard with a vengeance.
00:50:06.043 --> 00:50:06.644
I mean he's so good.
00:50:06.704 --> 00:50:08.550
Yeah, he's a great shape for um.
00:50:08.550 --> 00:50:38.146
I mean, if he was in 40s and I think he takes that role quite well as one of the marines, that sort of takes on the villainous role at the end and sees it through um and obviously the references is he plays alfred in the batman, which and snyder did which some hate and some love, which is so sure, sure, I think he was a standout from that for sure oh yeah, I mean, I think jeremy irons is one of those actors that can make a bad film quite good just by being in it, kind of like what you were saying about uh, um uh, sam rockwell.
00:50:38.646 --> 00:50:42.331
But yeah, so I've casted him as um fry.
00:50:42.331 --> 00:50:45.802
Did you want to go with your fry, cory, or should I just go through my list?
00:50:46.664 --> 00:50:47.507
you can give me your fry.
00:50:47.507 --> 00:50:48.148
I mean, give me both.
00:50:48.148 --> 00:50:50.342
I think we're doing them as a pair okay.
00:50:50.362 --> 00:51:02.483
So fry, I've got jeremy eyes and then, paired up with fry, I have got from cliffhanger, uh, or maybe, you know, from the walking dead, michael rooker, uh okay yeah, and I think just the way I think he plays.
00:51:02.483 --> 00:51:09.590
I don't think he was sort of typecast as a villain yet, because he played quite a good character in cliffhanger with sly yeah.
00:51:09.630 --> 00:51:09.771
He's.
00:51:09.771 --> 00:51:13.686
He's playing like the friend in a lot of movies like days of thunder and stuff, exactly.
00:51:13.728 --> 00:51:19.025
I think later on he becomes typecast as a villain, uh, kind of like how Liam after two are taken.
00:51:19.025 --> 00:51:23.474
So yeah, if um, and he's got that face, he's got that attitude, he's got that slur.
00:51:23.474 --> 00:51:51.208
So I think him paired up with Jeremy Irons, him and Michael Rooker same sort of height, same sort of antagonistic manners about them I think that would be a pretty cool pair to actors that can lurk in the background behind our Hummel and Morse, um or Baxter sorry, but yeah, I think they bring, and they're both filthy in DC movies.
00:51:51.228 --> 00:51:54.813
Michael Rooker will be in Mallrats the following year, in 95, or he will go heal.
00:51:54.813 --> 00:51:57.137
Ok, so that's the start of his 90s, 1994 DC cast.
00:51:58.940 --> 00:52:00.726
OK, so, Corey who do you have, for it's a modern wrestling cast?
00:52:00.726 --> 00:52:01.869
Yes, for Captain Darrow played tony todd.
00:52:01.889 --> 00:52:13.764
Um, you obviously need a like an imposing figure, because he's kind of like the biggest guy yeah like there he's kind of this muscle, um, also a little unhinged, and honestly I just need someone that can say I don't like that soft ass shit right before.
00:52:13.764 --> 00:52:16.860
We're talking about two of the most creative deaths with these two characters.
00:52:16.860 --> 00:52:23.391
Sure, like tony todd literally has a rocket shot at him which throws him out of window and he gets impaled on like a rebar.
00:52:23.391 --> 00:52:32.708
A lot of impaling, yes, um he goes out like a G and then crit or a fry, gets the, the VX gas put in his mouth and then punched and melts.
00:52:33.329 --> 00:52:35.768
Um, turns out VX gas is real, by the way.
00:52:35.768 --> 00:52:40.070
Oh, and the science is that pretty much what they say happens to you happens.
00:52:40.070 --> 00:52:40.871
They said it's pretty rough.
00:52:40.871 --> 00:52:43.639
Pretty much what they say happens to you happens, they said it's pretty rough.
00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:43.719
Wow.
00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:44.403
So I looked it up.
00:52:44.403 --> 00:52:45.759
They got this movie, got a lot of the science right by VX.
00:52:45.759 --> 00:52:51.827
They said it's not a gas, it's actually like a jelly form which they kind of show in this in the more gelatin, yeah.
00:52:52.179 --> 00:52:54.782
So for Darrow I have the Undertaker.
00:52:54.782 --> 00:53:03.550
Okay, so the Undertaker will be playing that character, because I think he just is large and imposing and he probably doesn't listen to Elton John.
00:53:03.771 --> 00:53:05.344
Is this like American Badass Taker?
00:53:05.344 --> 00:53:05.505
Oh?
00:53:05.525 --> 00:53:07.409
yeah, they're not going to be in their gear.
00:53:07.429 --> 00:53:10.068
They're acting, they're acting, yeah, yeah, yeah, just confirming.
00:53:10.068 --> 00:53:11.826
This is like if WWE made this movie.
00:53:11.865 --> 00:53:12.889
Okay, got it, got it.
00:53:15.025 --> 00:53:15.547
Yeah, that's right.
00:53:16.021 --> 00:53:16.724
He's not going to like.
00:53:16.724 --> 00:53:26.903
Sit up after being impaled in his hat, hailed in his, in his hat, now, um, he'll be, he'll be dead, um, and then fry.
00:53:26.903 --> 00:53:27.425
There's, it's dean ambrose.
00:53:27.425 --> 00:53:27.847
It's john moxley.
00:53:27.847 --> 00:53:38.119
Okay, okay, john moxley, the wiry, crazy guy that's just completely off his rocker he's just ready to like go nuts with it and so I have the whole shield in the the bad guys.
00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:43.893
Okay, nice, nice very cool very cool, all right for For my modern cast a little less fun.
00:53:43.893 --> 00:53:48.864
But for Gregory Sparger's Captain Fry character I'm giving you Jack O'Connell.
00:53:48.864 --> 00:53:51.365
You know him from the recent Sinners movie.
00:53:51.365 --> 00:53:52.943
He is the lead vampire.
00:53:52.943 --> 00:54:00.501
He does incredible in that movie by the way, I immediately was like, yeah, he can play unhinged and just ready to do whatever it takes kind of role.
00:54:00.501 --> 00:54:04.844
And then for Captain Darrow, I'm giving you Yaha Abdul-Maheen.
00:54:04.844 --> 00:54:07.657
He's in the Watchmen series.
00:54:07.657 --> 00:54:09.746
He's also Black Manta in Aquaman movies.
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:11.005
He's in the modern Candyman.
00:54:11.085 --> 00:54:11.728
He's in Ambulance.
00:54:13.003 --> 00:54:13.947
Was that your go-to?
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:18.400
That was not, but that works out he also plays Candyman, he's also Candyman Nick.
00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:20.762
And so, alright, I like that.
00:54:20.762 --> 00:54:21.623
That was a happy accident.
00:54:21.643 --> 00:54:22.264
It was, it was.
00:54:22.865 --> 00:54:24.407
Andy Mann, who's been in the Michael Bay film.
00:54:24.407 --> 00:54:25.728
I like it Very good, there we go.
00:54:25.829 --> 00:54:27.411
Yeah, another man, that's right.
00:54:27.411 --> 00:54:29.893
That's right, all right, we have up.
00:54:29.893 --> 00:54:31.215
Next I have Commander Anderson.
00:54:31.215 --> 00:54:36.864
Do you guys have an Anderson played by Michael Bean?
00:54:36.905 --> 00:54:40.230
Oh yes, absolutely all right.
00:54:40.230 --> 00:54:44.884
This character is the best character in this movie by far and he get.
00:54:44.884 --> 00:54:47.809
It's the best scene that I will not give that order scene.
00:54:47.809 --> 00:54:49.112
It's shot perfectly.
00:54:49.112 --> 00:54:50.362
He delivers the lines well.
00:54:50.362 --> 00:54:57.045
Apparently michael bean was really insecure filming because he was in navy seals with um, uh, what's his name?
00:54:57.045 --> 00:54:59.230
Uh, charlie sheen, the 80s movie?
00:54:59.230 --> 00:55:05.143
Yeah, navy seals, but that was a ridiculous 80s action movie that wasn't grounded in reality and in this movie.
00:55:05.284 --> 00:55:16.641
It's grounded in some reality and a lot of the Navy Seals are actual Navy Seals and he's like they're gonna make fun of me because I was in that goofy Navy Seals movie in the 80s, and so he nailed this.
00:55:16.802 --> 00:55:18.742
Yeah, so you need a good promo, nick.
00:55:18.742 --> 00:55:21.346
So I'm bringing you the best in the world on the mic.
00:55:21.346 --> 00:55:23.134
Oh shit, cm punk.
00:55:23.134 --> 00:55:26.847
Wow, okay, is gonna be my commander anderson.
00:55:26.847 --> 00:55:28.692
I love that.
00:55:28.692 --> 00:55:30.918
He's going excellent, excellent.
00:55:30.918 --> 00:55:32.240
He will not give that order.
00:55:32.240 --> 00:55:38.512
He cannot give that order you know that order exactly.
00:55:38.773 --> 00:55:45.186
Oh, if you don't know michael bean, uh, he is in such noble movies as the Terminator, aliens, the Abyss and Tombstone, tombstone.
00:55:45.186 --> 00:55:52.782
Yeah, johnny Ringo has a great 80s to 90s run and I feel like this is probably what caps it off a little bit A notable supporting act.
00:55:52.782 --> 00:55:53.847
End to the movie.
00:55:53.847 --> 00:55:55.251
Did he do anything else?
00:55:56.302 --> 00:55:58.706
Sorry, Michael Bean, did he do anything?
00:55:59.360 --> 00:55:59.641
He was in.
00:55:59.661 --> 00:56:00.706
Navy Seals with Charlie Sheen.
00:56:00.706 --> 00:56:04.208
That was in the 80s, correct?
00:56:04.208 --> 00:56:04.775
I'm not sure what he did.
00:56:04.775 --> 00:56:05.300
Let's ask the internet.
00:56:05.980 --> 00:56:06.983
He sort of disappeared, didn't he?
00:56:06.983 --> 00:56:08.769
He did.
00:56:09.702 --> 00:56:11.047
He went off the radar a little bit.
00:56:11.047 --> 00:56:12.567
I wonder what happened to old Michael Biehn.
00:56:12.567 --> 00:56:18.862
It's not spelt B-E-A-N, it's B-I-E-H-N, but it's said like that.
00:56:18.862 --> 00:56:19.945
He was in Greece.
00:56:19.945 --> 00:56:20.585
Did you know this?
00:56:20.585 --> 00:56:24.193
He was at Uncredited Rollins, greece, back in 1978.
00:56:24.193 --> 00:56:27.646
So after this he was 40 at the time of filming this movie.
00:56:27.646 --> 00:56:43.920
So after this, the only notable things that come up that I'm recognizing if you're a Nickelodeon kid Clockstoppers was a movie that came out it might be the Havoc movie that's known more for the more heel-turn version of Anne Hathaway.
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:45.385
Just a lot of.
00:56:45.425 --> 00:56:46.422
Anne Hathaway's boobs.
00:56:46.422 --> 00:56:55.827
Yeah, he's in Grindhouse segments of Planet Tear and Thanksgiving and then beyond that it's nothing of no.
00:56:55.827 --> 00:56:57.666
Take me home tonight if you're an 80s fan.
00:56:59.367 --> 00:57:04.068
I think like I can't be honest, but I've heard enough Michael Bean on podcast that he does.
00:57:04.068 --> 00:57:14.030
He's kind of like a shoot interview where he will just trash everyone he's ever worked with oh wow and so I think he might have just got a bad rep okay yeah, that's probably what it is.
00:57:14.050 --> 00:57:24.329
Then, that's probably what it is so and I think he like had some missteps or some recastings that really hurt him, like um kind of when he was on top of things, like I think he got replaced in movies.
00:57:24.329 --> 00:57:27.494
You know, it's kind of like I've heard interviews that sound very close to like.
00:57:27.494 --> 00:57:38.744
Only I mean, he's a very cool guy and it seems like everything he says is like true, unlike cory feldman who's now going around saying like he was originally supposed to be in titanic and all this stuff and that johnny downer killed his career.
00:57:38.963 --> 00:57:43.231
He's just saying nonsense at this point okay, and so I don't think it's like that, but I do think he had some.
00:57:43.231 --> 00:57:50.809
He got removed from some movies, like by directors or something that didn't want to work with him and I think he just got real, you know whatever.
00:57:50.809 --> 00:57:53.664
I think that's what happened, okay, okay.
00:57:53.905 --> 00:57:56.494
Well, now we have a nice solid background on michael bean.
00:57:56.494 --> 00:57:57.639
Sorry, uh.
00:57:57.639 --> 00:58:01.068
No, you're good, you're good, uh, ash, who did you pick for commander anderson?
00:58:01.728 --> 00:58:17.340
yeah, I actually like these roles because you give, I guess, an actor who has some sort of gravitas, someone who's a name, a very small role and I bet when that actor reads the script it's like I've got this really big scene in the shower scene, yeah, um, but one scene with mason explained in the sort of procedure and that's it.
00:58:17.340 --> 00:58:21.971
So he's got like two or three big scenes, but that third scene, kind of like how Corey said, was one of his favorite scenes.
00:58:21.971 --> 00:58:24.766
You've got to nail it and that's his job.
00:58:24.766 --> 00:58:32.356
So I've picked someone who can deliver a good monologue or a good speech, even at this point of his career in 1994.
00:58:32.356 --> 00:58:35.668
So he lied about his age in Apocalypse.
00:58:35.668 --> 00:58:45.304
Now you haven't seen him as Morpheus yet, but Boys in the Hood, you could definitely get that authoritative figure.
00:58:45.304 --> 00:58:51.164
I think you just immediately know he's someone that you're going to follow and listen to, and for sure there's a big debate in, uh, my group of friends.
00:58:51.164 --> 00:58:55.724
We think he has a better voice than morgan freeman um, so that's an arguable.
00:58:56.005 --> 00:58:56.708
That's arguable.
00:58:56.809 --> 00:58:59.418
I would say it's pretty good, yeah, no, I just think.
00:58:59.418 --> 00:59:12.019
Yeah, morgan freeman has a lovely voice, but I mean, if you listen voice, but if someone gives him the opportunity to narrate a documentary or just narrate, it's a beautiful voice when he speaks, it's just gold.
00:59:13.003 --> 00:59:14.329
What's the scientist's name that has?
00:59:14.329 --> 00:59:18.019
He does all the discussions.
00:59:20.396 --> 00:59:21.019
Neil deGrasse Tyson.
00:59:22.108 --> 00:59:29.907
Lawrence Fishburne was on his channel and, like they were doing, they were talking about who had the deeper voice and I was like why is laurence fishburne voicing god more in movies?
00:59:30.148 --> 00:59:32.114
I know exactly, um.
00:59:32.114 --> 00:59:34.460
So, yeah, we have this debate where we think he has the.
00:59:34.460 --> 00:59:35.663
I think it's like the.
00:59:35.663 --> 00:59:42.150
You know, morgan freeman's the easier man to believe because he narrates a lot of films like shawshank, redemption and seven, and I think he continued.
00:59:42.150 --> 00:59:45.313
He played god um and he does documentaries on planet earth.
00:59:45.313 --> 00:59:48.882
But yeah, lawrence fishburne, I mean his voice, it does the same job.
00:59:48.882 --> 00:59:50.224
For me it's beautiful.
00:59:50.224 --> 00:59:55.150
But, um, yeah, I just think he's just sort of got lost in the wind and sort of overshadowed by morgan, you know, rightfully.
00:59:55.150 --> 01:00:00.626
So some could argue sure, sure, anyway, he's, he's who I'm picking for, commander addison.
01:00:00.686 --> 01:00:05.434
I think that i's a solid, especially early Lawrence Fishburne, like you said, boys in the Hood.
01:00:05.434 --> 01:00:10.532
He's still very much a young man but he's got a presence about him for sure.
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:13.269
Yeah, and I don't think he will be screaming it like Michael Biehn.
01:00:13.269 --> 01:00:15.108
I think he'll bring something different to the monologue.
01:00:15.108 --> 01:00:16.681
I don't think he'll go.
01:00:16.681 --> 01:00:17.942
I will not give that order.
01:00:17.942 --> 01:00:19.302
I think it'll be more like a gritty.
01:00:19.302 --> 01:00:21.003
I will not give that order.
01:00:21.003 --> 01:00:21.903
Kind of a more.
01:00:22.385 --> 01:00:24.726
His voice will just carry on its own.
01:00:24.726 --> 01:00:26.967
There's no need for shouting for him.
01:00:27.347 --> 01:00:31.411
Yes, exactly, it's the tone of his voice that will just sort of get the message across.
01:00:31.411 --> 01:00:34.992
But yeah, that's who I've picked for Commander Anson.
01:00:35.653 --> 01:00:36.974
Excellent Guys.
01:00:36.974 --> 01:00:40.617
We're going back to the modern times and for this role I'm picking Ben Foster.
01:00:40.617 --> 01:00:47.224
All right, normally he'd probably be one of the crazy Marines, but I'm like good little face.
01:00:47.224 --> 01:00:48.608
Turn here for old Ben Foster.
01:00:48.608 --> 01:00:53.628
Yeah, our mascot Marv has attacked the stage.
01:00:53.628 --> 01:00:54.309
Oh no.
01:00:55.521 --> 01:00:56.324
Uncall for Marv.
01:00:58.320 --> 01:00:58.722
He's a cat.
01:00:58.722 --> 01:01:02.503
If you aren't aware, he's jumped all over the keyboards, luckily not the main one.
01:01:02.503 --> 01:01:03.065
That's important.
01:01:03.065 --> 01:01:07.670
He was like I have something to say, I got something better.
01:01:07.670 --> 01:01:10.088
That's he's like I got a better pick for you.
01:01:10.088 --> 01:01:11.032
He's, he's an idiot.
01:01:11.032 --> 01:01:15.869
Well, moving on to picks, next I have Jade Angelo, who's played by Claire for Leonie.
01:01:15.869 --> 01:01:19.608
This is the daughter of Sean Connery's character, john Mason.
01:01:19.608 --> 01:01:22.574
You might know her from mall rats a year from 94.
01:01:22.574 --> 01:01:26.161
She's also in Meet Joe Black, and those are probably the two main ones.
01:01:26.161 --> 01:01:29.045
I think people know her from Small but significant character.
01:01:29.987 --> 01:01:30.849
Yeah, beautiful lady.
01:01:33.141 --> 01:01:41.664
So I'll go first, since I haven't gone first yet and this could show my hand a little bit, but I'm giving you for a modern casting.
01:01:41.664 --> 01:01:42.748
I'm giving you Kiki Palmer.
01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:53.581
Okay, little bit, but I'm giving you, uh, for a modern casting, I'm giving you kiki palmer, okay, okay, I think you know, yeah, uh, she is most known probably for uh, akilah and the b and she's in nope, correct.
01:01:53.581 --> 01:02:00.146
And then she's in some other things, such as joyful noise, scream queens, the tv show um one of them days from this year.
01:02:00.146 --> 01:02:01.130
That was released earlier.
01:02:01.130 --> 01:02:06.460
But I think she'll do a great job just being, you know, the college student type.
01:02:06.460 --> 01:02:10.400
And then she's suddenly out of nowhere being like oh my dad, you just showed up out of nowhere.
01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:11.824
Great, why should I care?
01:02:11.824 --> 01:02:17.463
Kind of thing, corey, who do you got next for wrestling?
01:02:17.623 --> 01:02:21.925
I mean there's not a whole lot to say here, because this character is in the movie for about 25 seconds and we never see her again.
01:02:21.945 --> 01:02:22.688
Yeah, I just what's Paige's name now?
01:02:22.708 --> 01:02:25.358
Soraya, not a whole lot to say here, because this character's in the movie for about 25 seconds and we never see her again.
01:02:25.358 --> 01:02:26.201
What's Paige's name now?
01:02:26.201 --> 01:02:26.722
Soraya?
01:02:26.943 --> 01:02:27.947
Yeah, I just picked her.
01:02:28.380 --> 01:02:33.847
Okay, soraya Paige I picked an irrelevant wrestler as far as I'm concerned because it's an irrelevant role.
01:02:33.867 --> 01:02:34.168
That's fair.
01:02:34.168 --> 01:02:37.487
She's a solid wrestler when she wants to.
01:02:40.422 --> 01:02:40.824
Very cool.
01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:44.469
Ash, who do you have for Jadeade the daughter?
01:02:45.152 --> 01:03:00.068
uh, I have a very early a-lister um in this role um, she does the flintstones that year, uh, with good old john goodman, uh, and then later does executive, one of my favorite action movies in two years time.
01:03:00.068 --> 01:03:11.840
So I'm going with hallie berry, sticking with the of dc and of course, 1994 a young, beautiful hallie berry, I think, is a a good pick for a very, very small role.
01:03:11.840 --> 01:03:14.190
Um gotcha gotcha so to clarify.
01:03:14.231 --> 01:03:18.688
Just just to clarify for audience listeners you're picking characters that are not just the dcu.
01:03:18.688 --> 01:03:21.699
These are characters that have played within dc in general.
01:03:21.699 --> 01:03:23.367
So exactly correct, yes, very, very cool, very cool, very cool, awesome.
01:03:23.367 --> 01:03:24.170
Yeah, I feel like we've covered DCU.
01:03:24.170 --> 01:03:25.536
These are characters that have played within DC in general.
01:03:25.556 --> 01:03:26.599
Exactly correct, yes, Very cool, very cool.
01:03:27.425 --> 01:03:28.641
We've covered what all needs to be said.
01:03:28.641 --> 01:03:34.284
It's a very small role and it's just meant to pull some heartstrings for the John Mason character, for sure.
01:03:34.284 --> 01:03:36.289
Alright, let's round out.
01:03:36.289 --> 01:03:36.992
Go ahead.
01:03:36.992 --> 01:03:37.253
I'm sorry.
01:03:38.541 --> 01:03:40.306
You said she was big in Meet Joe Black.
01:03:41.391 --> 01:03:41.590
Yes.
01:03:42.302 --> 01:03:44.481
Do you remember the bad guy in mission impossible 2?
01:03:44.481 --> 01:04:03.228
Yes, so them two are married in real life, which I really yeah, yeah, they've been and they're still married and they live in england and still, and that's why they uh, you don't probably see her as much as you think she's just happily married in england at the moment, I think, or maybe scott if that works for you, then by all means.
01:04:03.228 --> 01:04:05.525
Yeah, Dougray Scott, that's him.
01:04:07.128 --> 01:04:07.891
Dougray Scott.
01:04:07.891 --> 01:04:08.985
Yeah, he was supposed to be Wolverine.
01:04:08.985 --> 01:04:10.565
He was one of the finalists for Wolverine.
01:04:11.784 --> 01:04:13.329
He was the first pick for it as well.
01:04:13.329 --> 01:04:18.963
How that could have gone any differently that would have shifted lots of realities.
01:04:18.963 --> 01:04:20.208
Yeah, massively.
01:04:24.619 --> 01:04:25.885
Up next we have Ernest paxton, played by william forsyth.
01:04:25.885 --> 01:04:32.432
Uh, you might know him from raisin, arizona, out for justice the devil's rejects, and once upon a time in america, in 84, this is a no-nonsense fbi agent.
01:04:32.432 --> 01:04:38.010
Uh, he's one of the few government officials, though, that's willing to listen to good speed and mason's efforts inside alcatraz.
01:04:38.010 --> 01:04:40.346
So he's the kind of guy like uh, hear him out, hear him out a second.
01:04:40.346 --> 01:04:41.289
He represents the jaded guy like hear him out.
01:04:41.309 --> 01:04:41.791
Hear him out in a second.
01:04:41.791 --> 01:04:43.980
He represents the jaded FBI guy.
01:04:43.980 --> 01:04:45.244
He hasn't gotten his like.
01:04:45.244 --> 01:04:46.367
He's not into all like the.
01:04:46.367 --> 01:04:47.369
How corrupt everything is.
01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:47.961
He's still like.
01:04:47.961 --> 01:04:48.985
He's still the Boy Scout.
01:04:48.985 --> 01:04:50.009
That's still like everything.
01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:51.505
Hey, we do this because we love America.
01:04:51.545 --> 01:04:57.626
Right, yeah, he hasn't realized that everyone else around him is just hiding all these horrible secrets.
01:04:57.686 --> 01:05:00.409
Yeah and saying oh, we actually do really terrible things.
01:05:04.856 --> 01:05:06.605
Okay, corey, do you want to go first?
01:05:06.846 --> 01:05:11.751
Yes, so I'm bringing you a guy who I still think believes America's better than it is.
01:05:11.751 --> 01:05:15.050
Cody Rhodes is my Ernest Paxton.
01:05:15.050 --> 01:05:17.849
He's just going to play straight man FBI agent.
01:05:17.909 --> 01:05:20.045
Believable Blonde hair or dark hair Cody Rhodes.
01:05:20.065 --> 01:05:20.467
We're going to have.
01:05:20.467 --> 01:05:21.009
The dyes are dark.
01:05:21.009 --> 01:05:22.954
I don't think the FBI allows bleach blonde.
01:05:22.974 --> 01:05:23.539
That's your problem, right?
01:05:23.740 --> 01:05:24.925
That's probably a dress code thing.
01:05:25.039 --> 01:05:30.150
Just the adrenaline's still in his soul, though, but he's still going to have a goofy-ass American flag skull tattoo on his neck.
01:05:30.150 --> 01:05:32.025
For some reason they're not going to get rid of that.
01:05:44.739 --> 01:05:45.605
No, it's like I've always been with one of the Brotherhood guys.
01:05:45.605 --> 01:05:46.018
Don't worry, that's my guy.
01:05:46.018 --> 01:05:46.603
I mean again, it's not a whole lot, you can say.
01:05:46.603 --> 01:05:48.119
William Fortescue is a really fun character actor.
01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:57.418
He plays a great villain in a 90s action movie called Firestorm but other than that you're playing the straight guy for sure.
01:05:58.925 --> 01:06:02.447
Ash, who from DC history do you have for us?
01:06:03.001 --> 01:06:03.282
I do.
01:06:03.282 --> 01:06:10.032
This is like stretching the dc history and the year, so it's more of a 2000 role, but the 1994 one works.
01:06:10.032 --> 01:06:14.445
I see this uh actor with a mustache, actually much like the actual character.
01:06:14.445 --> 01:06:28.451
I've got a sort of a just out of the academy but is very intelligent and has gone up the chains way quicker than he should um kind of character and he's sort of the actor that I would consider lovable.
01:06:28.451 --> 01:06:36.170
Uh, easily trust has played the villain before, um quite recently in a film I quite liked in 10 cloverfield lane.
01:06:36.170 --> 01:06:43.733
I believe he's playing fred flintstone in 1994 but, I can see a John Goodman kind of character.
01:06:43.940 --> 01:06:47.168
So John Goodman and he's sort of the Hollywood coaster.
01:06:47.168 --> 01:07:06.764
He's always relevant, he's always in films and everyone knows who he is and he's not particularly the main character in the last 20 years, but he has been and was known for TV shows, probably Fred Flintstone being the biggest one, but probably the supporting character of supporting actors who you can rely on.
01:07:06.764 --> 01:07:10.367
But I think he makes a very good sub-character here, especially in the early 90s.
01:07:10.367 --> 01:07:20.221
He's a big guy as well, so you have that unwarranted trust already on him.
01:07:20.221 --> 01:07:23.527
So yeah, John Goodman, I've always wanted more for John Goodman.
01:07:23.527 --> 01:07:29.284
I wanted to see him at the Academy because I feel like he needs more recognition than he's guessing.
01:07:29.867 --> 01:07:30.469
I know he's pushing.
01:07:31.219 --> 01:07:33.925
He's just one of those guys where I think I want to see you do more.
01:07:33.925 --> 01:07:37.742
I want to see you do more like something people, I just want people to see you more.
01:07:37.742 --> 01:07:38.782
You know what I mean.
01:07:38.782 --> 01:07:39.664
He's that guy.
01:07:40.684 --> 01:07:44.329
Well, he has a couple golden globes for Roseanne Barton Fink.
01:07:44.329 --> 01:07:48.335
And then I'm trying to see his screen actor, guild Uh, he was nominated.
01:07:48.335 --> 01:07:51.960
He won for Argo, but he's been nominated for the artist Trumbo, you don't know.
01:07:51.960 --> 01:07:53.005
Jack and Roseanne.
01:07:53.005 --> 01:07:55.708
I don't see any Oscar.
01:07:55.708 --> 01:07:56.530
That's very strange.
01:07:56.530 --> 01:07:58.889
You would think he would have at least gotten one.
01:07:59.501 --> 01:08:04.684
That's interesting he was in back-to-back oscar picture, oscar winning pictures, so I'll go in the artist.
01:08:04.684 --> 01:08:05.545
He was in both films.
01:08:05.545 --> 01:08:12.630
So he's like the, the hollywood coaster, like he's always there, but I just wanted someone in that role.
01:08:12.630 --> 01:08:13.472
You know where it's like.
01:08:13.472 --> 01:08:18.990
Well, okay, that's, you know, there's john goodman, you know, maybe he doesn't care about that.
01:08:19.030 --> 01:08:20.161
Maybe he just does his thing.
01:08:20.161 --> 01:08:24.251
He's not trying to get the oscar win, you know, yeah, I love actors like that.
01:08:24.251 --> 01:08:25.914
I like doesn't live in la doesn't you know?
01:08:26.135 --> 01:08:29.125
chase it, he's just content with making a living.
01:08:29.125 --> 01:08:30.307
He's established enough.
01:08:30.307 --> 01:08:32.421
He was already established in the 80s anyway.
01:08:32.421 --> 01:08:36.748
So yeah, but yeah, loved him, loved him crazy.
01:08:37.569 --> 01:08:40.842
Okay, we've taken care of the bottom half, now we're going to take care of the top six.
01:08:40.842 --> 01:08:42.025
Here we'll'll get through this.
01:08:42.025 --> 01:08:43.791
We're really wheeling and dealing.
01:08:43.791 --> 01:08:47.309
Now, ash, I'm going to have you go back to back for once.
01:08:47.309 --> 01:08:50.088
We'll do like a snake style draft thing that we do in the past.
01:08:50.088 --> 01:08:53.664
So our next character is Carla Pestalozzi.
01:08:53.664 --> 01:08:55.529
Perhaps Pestalozzi, maybe.
01:08:57.261 --> 01:08:59.148
I think in the movie they only ever call her Carla.
01:08:59.148 --> 01:09:00.109
Yeah, this only ever call her Carla.
01:09:00.210 --> 01:09:05.636
Yeah, this was an added thing into the script and some character building going on Literally just Nick Cage's pregnant girlfriend.
01:09:05.636 --> 01:09:07.606
Yes, played by Vanessa Marcel.
01:09:07.606 --> 01:09:09.967
This is probably her most notable film role.
01:09:09.967 --> 01:09:14.967
She's been in things like Stormwatch, the Nanny Express and Stranded in Paradise in 2014.
01:09:14.967 --> 01:09:18.170
But she is Nicolas Cage's character's fiance.
01:09:18.170 --> 01:09:30.182
She's initially unaware of the danger he's about to face, but remains a strong, you know, emotional anchor for him.
01:09:30.182 --> 01:09:30.824
Yeah, so, that being said, ash, who?
01:09:30.824 --> 01:09:32.188
Who's the one that keeps nicholas cage's character going in your dc?
01:09:32.188 --> 01:09:32.248
Uh?
01:09:32.269 --> 01:09:41.260
version of this movie in 1994 yeah, I've gone for one of my favorite actresses, unfortunately I I could probably cast her in every role, but I I think she suits this role perfectly.
01:09:41.260 --> 01:09:45.394
It's a very small role but she's relatively, I would say, actually unknown.
01:09:45.394 --> 01:09:51.168
I think she's very much known in the movie industry, but not as much as a established actress in audience eyes.
01:09:51.168 --> 01:09:55.286
So I'm going for someone who francis ford coppola said was his favorite actress.
01:09:55.286 --> 01:10:03.163
I'm going to go for a diane lane who is henry cavill's mother in the movies.
01:10:03.163 --> 01:10:04.645
You may know her from a film called Unfaithful.
01:10:04.645 --> 01:10:06.567
She was in a film called Jack with Robin Williams.
01:10:06.567 --> 01:10:08.469
I really love that film.
01:10:08.469 --> 01:10:15.675
Also, in Streets of Fire, yeah, no, but last season of House of Cards, that's right.
01:10:15.694 --> 01:10:22.347
A very, very good looking woman, yes, but yeah, 1994, I mean, she was a knockout.
01:10:22.347 --> 01:10:27.400
I think she was married to Josh Brolin, I think.
01:10:27.400 --> 01:10:28.163
Divorced now, uh, for a long time.
01:10:28.163 --> 01:10:28.886
But yeah, uh, I'll go for diane lane.
01:10:28.886 --> 01:10:36.881
I think she will definitely have that sort of error, for, you know, when she runs out of that fbi agent, it's like you just be a bureau bonehead then, and then has that emotional standpoint when they're about to bomb the island at the end.
01:10:36.881 --> 01:10:38.842
So, yeah, I think she's got the range, definitely to be a good actress.
01:10:38.842 --> 01:10:42.206
Another woman I'd like to see do more, but um, you know, there you go.
01:10:42.265 --> 01:10:52.435
That's hollywood for you cory wrestling I just wanted a lovable, I went with bailey.
01:10:52.435 --> 01:11:05.753
That's nice again it's a movie that doesn't do a lot for women no, there's only really two female characters in this movie yeah um, and even like the fun characters like the Alcatraz tour guide in the in the gay barber, are also men.
01:11:05.935 --> 01:11:06.539
It's literally.
01:11:06.539 --> 01:11:14.548
We just said there's only two women in this movie, and so this one she actually gets some meat though, and it's, it's, it's, it's.
01:11:14.548 --> 01:11:15.030
It's weird.
01:11:15.030 --> 01:11:25.307
They kind of give Sean Connery and Nicholas Cage the same stakes, which is like someone Nicholas Cages is more fleshed out.
01:11:25.307 --> 01:11:29.108
He invited her there because he thinks it's a training exercise and he tries to prevent her from getting there.
01:11:29.108 --> 01:11:32.948
But then she's there and now he has this stake and, like I have to pull this off.
01:11:32.948 --> 01:11:35.983
You know, because my pregnant girlfriend's there.
01:11:36.043 --> 01:11:37.148
Right, she does really well.
01:11:37.279 --> 01:11:38.224
So I thought Bailey would be fun.
01:11:38.545 --> 01:11:39.721
Yeah, Bailey's the lovable.
01:11:39.721 --> 01:11:42.121
You know, baby face good guy.
01:11:42.121 --> 01:11:58.664
She's played bad guys before but she's truly at her best when she's a lovable, good person it was between her sasha banks or whatever she's called okay, yeah, yeah, mercedes monet yeah well, uh, I'm gonna round this out with my modern casting and I'm going with someone who's kind of a hot commodity right now, but I you know there's again.
01:11:58.685 --> 01:12:01.551
There's limited options here for our female actresses of the time.
01:12:01.551 --> 01:12:09.073
I'm giving you margaret quali okay, the substance once upon a time in Hollywood Driveaway Dolls from last year or the year before.
01:12:09.073 --> 01:12:10.908
I think she's just solid.
01:12:10.908 --> 01:12:14.984
She can be kind of the vixen, she can be kind of the lovable lead of a movie.
01:12:14.984 --> 01:12:29.492
So I think she's just very well rounded and I think she'll just have fun with this role in whatever capacity she gets to have of screen time, for sure yeah, I like that alright, up next we have Director Womack.
01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:32.835
Director Womack played by John Spencer.
01:12:32.835 --> 01:12:35.547
You might know him from Presumed Innocent Copland.
01:12:35.547 --> 01:12:36.662
Are you noticing a theme?
01:12:36.662 --> 01:12:37.686
The Negotiator.
01:12:38.007 --> 01:12:42.070
West Wing, he likes cop stuff he likes detective FBI stuff.
01:12:42.070 --> 01:12:43.884
He's a procedural character actor.
01:12:43.884 --> 01:12:44.326
Yep, yep, yep.
01:12:45.060 --> 01:12:48.449
Head of the FBI, womack, is a bureaucratic and basically just hates Mason.
01:12:48.449 --> 01:12:52.445
He's the one that keeps him under his thumb and wants to lock him right back up right after the mission's over.
01:12:52.445 --> 01:12:58.865
And it's fair, because Mason tries to throw him off the side of a building, which I also don't blame him for.
01:12:58.865 --> 01:13:02.305
Yeah, he's a lot of fun though he is, he's a lot of fun.
01:13:02.305 --> 01:13:04.501
I will pick.
01:13:04.501 --> 01:13:04.661
Corey.
01:13:04.661 --> 01:13:05.220
Did you go first?
01:13:05.220 --> 01:13:06.903
Ash went first.
01:13:06.903 --> 01:13:07.283
You're going to?
01:13:07.302 --> 01:13:07.604
go first.
01:13:07.783 --> 01:13:08.845
I'm going first, okay.
01:13:09.444 --> 01:13:11.648
So this is a character that's a lot of fun.
01:13:11.648 --> 01:13:15.952
It's mainly all about really over delivering your lines.
01:13:15.952 --> 01:13:21.056
Yes, really, just chewing up your lines for the last half century.
01:13:24.720 --> 01:13:32.376
You know, I mean he's, it's Paul Heyman man, paul Heyman can play it down and he can play it upman man Paul Heyman can play it down and he can play it up as well.
01:13:32.416 --> 01:13:35.354
Oh man, he's arguably the greatest manager in wrestling history.
01:13:35.354 --> 01:13:35.876
He is the greatest manager.
01:13:35.876 --> 01:13:37.502
He has surpassed that one guy.
01:13:37.502 --> 01:13:38.407
I forget what his name is.
01:13:38.407 --> 01:13:39.784
That was the other, you know.
01:13:39.904 --> 01:13:40.868
Like Hulk Hogan's guy.
01:13:40.868 --> 01:13:45.329
Yeah, the southern guy with every wrestling fans just disowned us.
01:13:45.329 --> 01:13:49.690
Yeah, you know, he's got the megaphone, he's got the mullet and the mustache and the sunglasses.
01:13:49.690 --> 01:13:50.225
He came out.
01:13:50.225 --> 01:13:51.822
Oh no, no, no, I'm not talking about Jimmy Hart.
01:13:51.822 --> 01:13:53.067
Are you talking about Gorilla Monsoon?
01:13:54.304 --> 01:13:55.668
No, now it's going to bug me, man.
01:13:55.668 --> 01:13:58.625
It's the one they put in a cage once and they're like a Dominic Mysterio?
01:14:02.363 --> 01:14:03.543
No, like in a bunny suit, oh what?
01:14:03.543 --> 01:14:04.265
No, it's an old.
01:14:04.345 --> 01:14:05.466
It's an old Heenan.
01:14:05.466 --> 01:14:07.287
Oh, ok, bobby Heenan.
01:14:07.287 --> 01:14:09.909
I think Paul Heyman is officially past Bobby Heenan, that's fair.
01:14:11.212 --> 01:14:15.336
So how many people has he now managed for that have gone on to become superstars?
01:14:15.735 --> 01:14:16.095
Too many.
01:14:16.216 --> 01:14:23.541
Too many, too many to count, wow, well, I will go next.
01:14:23.541 --> 01:14:30.345
Just to keep things rotating, I was tempted to do a female here, and it sense because, like you know, you hate Mason, you could play off the whole idea that you hate women.
01:14:30.365 --> 01:14:30.948
What are you trying to say?
01:14:30.967 --> 01:14:33.970
No, I'm playing off the idea that, like you know, she, she could be like a score.
01:14:34.220 --> 01:14:35.725
It would be a good gender bend.
01:14:35.765 --> 01:14:44.351
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm going to gamble, I'm going to gamble a little bit and I'm going to give you I like it.
01:14:44.351 --> 01:14:54.826
I think she can play steely, she can play like no nonsense and she may not be able to turn it up to the level that John Spencer does, but in a modern version I think it'll work better.
01:14:54.865 --> 01:15:04.182
Think of her in that Rock of Ages movie that perfect musical ruined by a lead actor, Don't remind me Corey Corey, we have to recast that oh my gosh.
01:15:04.182 --> 01:15:06.307
Ash have you ever seen Rock of Ages?
01:15:06.307 --> 01:15:13.045
Yeah, I didn't know, tom Cruise could sing Neither did we, but it was all ruined by whatever his name was.
01:15:13.045 --> 01:15:16.247
That was the lead actor, freaking Diego or whatever his name is.
01:15:16.427 --> 01:15:16.729
It wasn't.
01:15:16.729 --> 01:15:19.331
It had good bits in the movie, yeah for sure.
01:15:20.060 --> 01:15:22.725
Forever blacklisted on the podcast.
01:15:22.725 --> 01:15:25.838
If anybody else tries to cast him, I will immediately sabotage it.
01:15:25.979 --> 01:15:26.542
Get out of here.
01:15:26.582 --> 01:15:27.667
Diego Bonetta.
01:15:29.239 --> 01:15:30.882
Yeah, else tries to cast him, I will immediately sabotage it.
01:15:30.882 --> 01:15:31.002
No, get out of here.
01:15:31.002 --> 01:15:33.802
Diego Bonetta yeah, I'm sure he's a fine, lovable, great guy but, Manny should not have been in that movie, absolutely not.
01:15:34.123 --> 01:15:34.445
No, no, no.
01:15:34.445 --> 01:15:42.586
Ash now that we've gone off our tangent, who do you have for director Romack in the 94 DC cast?
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:50.824
Yeah, so again, the 94 should probably go a bit higher, probably more 2006.
01:15:50.824 --> 01:15:59.088
Only 12 years out, I've got the year wrong here, but the actor that I would like to the gender bend is actually quite an interesting idea, which I thought was that.
01:15:59.088 --> 01:15:59.770
So that's quite cool.
01:15:59.770 --> 01:16:04.545
Catherine Zeta-Jones is yeah, definitely yeah, I do like that one.
01:16:04.545 --> 01:16:10.863
But yes, the actor I've gone for he was acting in 1994, but I think an older version would probably be better.
01:16:11.826 --> 01:16:26.493
Um it, uh, one of my favorite actors who is actually in a film, uh, that is never going to be seen by anyone, ever, because it's called the film that will never be seen and they put it in a time capsule, um, for the, for 100 years.
01:16:26.552 --> 01:16:30.791
So I think it's going to be released in 2189, um, and it's.
01:16:30.791 --> 01:16:37.926
I can't remember who directed it, but the actor who's in it is in john, is john malkovich and he's very good playing.
01:16:37.926 --> 01:16:46.034
I think he's actually better at playing good roles as well, because he's very much typecast as the antagonist and he's got that face, but he's very easy to hate.
01:16:46.034 --> 01:16:48.394
Um, and you know what you were saying last half century.
01:16:48.394 --> 01:16:49.422
He's very exaggerative and he's got that face, but he's very easy to hate and what you were saying last half century.
01:16:49.422 --> 01:16:57.992
He's very exaggerative and he's got that Pete Garsgaard voice as well, which does carry a lot of flair, that sort of southern drawl, which is really good.
01:16:57.992 --> 01:17:06.287
But yeah, I can relate to a Mason character hating a John Malkovich character and most stereotypical John Malkovich characters.
01:17:06.287 --> 01:17:11.287
You end up hating his character anyway, but you always have to admire his performance as well.
01:17:11.287 --> 01:17:13.260
So, yeah, john Malkovich.
01:17:14.189 --> 01:17:16.203
John Malkovich in man in the Air Mask face.
01:17:16.203 --> 01:17:17.186
Uh good guy.
01:17:17.186 --> 01:17:19.307
Role played Athos one of the musketeers.
01:17:19.307 --> 01:17:23.167
Yeah yeah, notable one for sure for sure he's also.
01:17:23.229 --> 01:17:28.506
He's also the good guy in um Changeling, which was um, which I really.
01:17:28.506 --> 01:17:33.091
I was like, wow, clint eastwood, who put him in in a line of fire where he plays a bad guy.
01:17:33.091 --> 01:17:35.118
Yeah, I'm in a good role.
01:17:35.118 --> 01:17:37.685
So clint eastwood used him in both roles and he was really good as a good.
01:17:37.685 --> 01:17:43.626
Good, uh, he's a detective actually nice yeah, so yeah go malkovich excellent.
01:17:44.287 --> 01:17:45.770
All right, that completes that round.
01:17:45.770 --> 01:17:48.545
So up next we have major tom baxter.
01:17:48.545 --> 01:17:50.992
Major Tom Baxter, major Tom Baxter, you've recognized him.
01:17:50.992 --> 01:17:54.765
David Morse is this character actor probably most notably three mile.
01:17:54.765 --> 01:17:58.788
Also Disturbia, hurt Locker and World War Z in 2013.
01:17:58.788 --> 01:18:00.966
Corey, he's 42 at this time.
01:18:00.966 --> 01:18:07.109
He shadowed real military personnel to prepare for the role, and him and Ed Harris previously worked on the abyss together in 89.
01:18:07.109 --> 01:18:11.127
For the role, and him and ed harris previously worked on the abyss together in 89.
01:18:11.127 --> 01:18:13.457
So hummel's jesus, loyal second in command to ed harris's villain or anti-villain.
01:18:13.457 --> 01:18:18.011
He initially supports the cause but questions the methods as things start to spiral, spiral out of control a bit.
01:18:18.011 --> 01:18:20.765
Um, I'll go first here.
01:18:20.765 --> 01:18:27.627
I guess I am going to give you a probably roughly around the same age of filming, but I'm giving you jesse plemons I like it.
01:18:28.088 --> 01:18:36.712
Oh, I think this seems like a good plenons role yeah, like starts off kind of like he looks like a villain, acts like a villain and then becomes, switches over with ed harris at the end as well.
01:18:36.712 --> 01:18:39.086
So that's that's who I got for the modern cast.
01:18:39.086 --> 01:18:41.612
Uh ash, who do you have for your dc cast?
01:18:42.440 --> 01:18:44.805
yeah, so I've gone for someone.
01:18:44.805 --> 01:18:52.377
Uh, honestly, we're gonna have to get rid of this 1994 thing, because I've just completely gone above that, okay you're a dc cast ash, yeah, dc cast.
01:18:52.556 --> 01:18:55.202
Uh, the the first three or four were very much on the nose of that.
01:18:55.202 --> 01:19:03.837
Um, I've gone for someone who's a bit on the nose with david morse and david morse, you know, he was in disturbia, green mile, the rock, um, world war z as well.
01:19:03.837 --> 01:19:08.167
Uh, briefly, yep, yep, yep, someone I kind of wish, because he had a good face and he had a good.
01:19:08.167 --> 01:19:09.708
You know, he's very tall man.
01:19:09.708 --> 01:19:14.887
I thought this is an actor I'd like to see in more things, kind of like john goodman, and unfortunately sort of just didn't get the roles.
01:19:14.887 --> 01:19:17.765
Kind of like the aaron eckhart agent thing I think happened with him as well.
01:19:18.105 --> 01:19:26.667
But someone who, who he reminds me of, is, um, someone who's just becoming, who's been around for a while but is getting quite big at the moment.
01:19:26.667 --> 01:19:32.854
He's actually on tour at the moment with the new thunderbolts movie and that, um, stranger things, david harbour.
01:19:32.854 --> 01:19:40.766
Um, and I think he's a bit too on the nose of david morse, who's always tall, kind of don't know where he stands, but he's got that good face kind of thing.
01:19:40.766 --> 01:19:42.835
Uh, stranger things, playing hopper.
01:19:42.835 --> 01:19:55.077
Uh, you know, he's got that very nice space where you just know he's okay, he's not a bad person, and I think David Morse has that, especially if you watch him in the Negotiator like he's meant to be.
01:19:55.077 --> 01:20:00.947
They're trying to swing you to believe he's the bad or the rat in this whole maze, but you just know he's doing his job.
01:20:00.947 --> 01:20:06.126
But yeah, david Morse, david Harbour sorry would be for sure.
01:20:07.143 --> 01:20:09.250
Excellent, excellent, corey WWE.
01:20:09.250 --> 01:20:09.369
Ae.
01:20:09.369 --> 01:20:10.153
Sorry, yeah, it would be.
01:20:10.153 --> 01:20:10.613
Yeah, for sure.
01:20:10.613 --> 01:20:11.537
Excellent, excellent cory wwe.
01:20:11.537 --> 01:20:11.757
Auw tna.
01:20:11.757 --> 01:20:12.600
Who's who's who you picking?
01:20:12.900 --> 01:20:21.908
john cena, john cena, yeah, that's right, john cena's playing second in command, to my humble, wow, but I think I think that's what john cena should play in this movie.
01:20:21.908 --> 01:20:22.931
That's fair, he's.
01:20:23.072 --> 01:20:28.439
He's gonna be the tweener okay, I originally had randy orton okay, yeah, that makes sense, but I wanted cena.
01:20:28.739 --> 01:20:30.824
Yeah, okay I wanted cena cena can do it.
01:20:30.984 --> 01:20:33.310
It's reminiscent of his role in bumblebee it's.
01:20:33.470 --> 01:20:38.470
It's just also cena's face can be very stoic and david morse has a stoic face?
01:20:38.490 --> 01:20:42.266
yeah for sure, excellent, excellent.
01:20:42.266 --> 01:20:59.576
We're at the top three, gentlemen, and we're going to start with the villain or anti-villain, depending on your stance uh, general hummel, played by the legendary ed harris ed harris absolutely legendary uh known for things such as the abyss, apollo 13, beautiful mind, the westworld tv series as the man in the black hat.
01:20:59.576 --> 01:21:07.806
Uh also recently in uh what's the movie with kristen stewart that we just watched last year, the great pulpy uh muscle muscle girl.
01:21:07.827 --> 01:21:10.082
That movie was awesome and I can't remember what it's called.
01:21:10.122 --> 01:21:11.426
My brain just shut down, oh man.
01:21:14.283 --> 01:21:15.027
Love lies bleeding.
01:21:15.046 --> 01:21:15.722
Thank you, thank you.
01:21:15.722 --> 01:21:21.006
We had two lesbian love stories that were great in the last year, so that was the other one.
01:21:21.127 --> 01:21:22.181
I love that movie.
01:21:22.181 --> 01:21:25.211
That was way better than I thought it would be Ed Harris.
01:21:25.270 --> 01:21:31.487
Yes, his character in this is General hummel, as we've talked about this highly decorated but disillusioned us marine general.
01:21:31.487 --> 01:21:44.641
He's leading this rogue group to kind of hold san francisco hostage, just uh, they're demanding justice for his fallen men and, like we said, despite the drastic actions, at the end he kind of blinks and decides like I'm not doing this and kind of gets some redemption.
01:21:44.641 --> 01:21:48.149
So who went first last?
01:21:48.149 --> 01:21:48.911
Did you go first last?
01:21:48.911 --> 01:21:50.113
I went last last.
01:21:50.239 --> 01:21:54.889
Okay, you go first this time okay, so john cena is playing second two.
01:21:54.889 --> 01:21:57.873
It had it's duane johnson.
01:21:57.873 --> 01:21:59.663
Oh my gosh, you're right.
01:21:59.663 --> 01:22:07.104
Okay, it's duane johnson it being a good villain, because he's done, he's been a great baby face and a great villain in wrestling that.
01:22:07.125 --> 01:22:07.506
That's true.
01:22:07.787 --> 01:22:11.426
And I think it's just going to be nice, john Cena backing Dwayne Johnson.
01:22:11.426 --> 01:22:17.493
Dwayne Johnson, even though he's more powerfully imposing, he is not a bad actor.
01:22:17.493 --> 01:22:22.667
He delivers lines, yeah, and you're going to believe that he's capable of murder.
01:22:22.667 --> 01:22:24.391
But you're going to believe it when he doesn't.
01:22:25.161 --> 01:22:28.051
It's very much the rock to be like I'm going to be a villain, but you're going to believe it when he doesn't.
01:22:28.051 --> 01:22:29.899
It's very much the rock to be like I'm going to be a villain, but at the end I'm a good guy.
01:22:29.920 --> 01:22:34.171
Yeah, and also that, also, that, also that I will never go full heel ever again in my life.
01:22:34.171 --> 01:22:42.269
I'm going to sign onto a DC movie, that for a villain, but I demand to be the hero, so it's, it's, it's, it's on brand.
01:22:49.039 --> 01:22:49.801
I, I love it, it's good, I like that.
01:22:49.801 --> 01:22:50.582
Meta on point.
01:22:50.582 --> 01:22:51.984
Just like we need in a quantum recast.
01:22:51.984 --> 01:22:54.006
Sometimes I will go last on this one, ash.
01:22:54.006 --> 01:22:55.288
Who do you have for General Hummel?
01:22:56.289 --> 01:22:59.935
Yeah, I wanted someone where you can figure out if he's good or bad.
01:22:59.935 --> 01:23:10.244
I think Ed Harris is actually one of those characters who always plays quite a loud character, but he's always on the good side of the narrative, kind of like Apollo 13.
01:23:10.244 --> 01:23:14.960
He's a very authoritative, shouty person well not actually that shout, but the abyss.
01:23:14.980 --> 01:23:16.103
He's quite an aggressive guy as well.
01:23:16.103 --> 01:23:18.087
He's the main character, sure?
01:23:18.087 --> 01:23:28.768
Uh, history of violence, um, anyway, but yes, the person I've gone for, I you know I had a look at morgan freeman, but I just don't think people would believe morgan freeman is bad and people just know, do it.
01:23:28.768 --> 01:23:29.729
But I would.
01:23:29.729 --> 01:23:31.032
I do think he could do that role.
01:23:31.032 --> 01:23:35.188
I think he has playing a few like corrupt people, but I don't think he has.
01:23:35.188 --> 01:23:41.898
I've been as a film called the contract with john cusack, but he plays a fugitive and it's just very hard to believe, uh, morgan freeman.
01:23:41.898 --> 01:23:57.385
So the person I've gone for instead, um, obviously morgan freeman in dc, but I've gone for someone else in dc, um, in the same film as a morgan freeman dc movie, and that is a liam neeson who would change his career in 2008 from taken plays raz al-dul.
01:23:57.805 --> 01:24:14.101
Uh, spoiler alert for batman begins um, it's not ken wannabe and yeah I feel like he is a actor who is got this dual persona where you don't know if his compass is pointing north or south, and could very easily flick halfway through, kind of like Batman Begins in a way.
01:24:14.101 --> 01:24:17.207
He does kind of play an anti-hero in that movie as well.
01:24:18.302 --> 01:24:20.845
He has a cause and a belief, but he's an extremist.
01:24:21.922 --> 01:24:26.925
It's sort of that role in Batman Begins in the Rock is a bit transferable.
01:24:26.925 --> 01:24:28.850
Imagine that, so, imagine that.
01:24:28.850 --> 01:24:30.444
So that's who I'm going for Liam Neeson.
01:24:32.489 --> 01:24:33.521
Very nice, very nice.
01:24:33.521 --> 01:24:40.025
Well, I'm going to round this out, because I also weirdly picked another Batman villain from the same trilogy for my pick.
01:24:40.025 --> 01:24:45.233
I picked Tom Hardy to play General Hummel.
01:24:45.233 --> 01:24:58.845
I think you're going to have a charismatic villain, but it's going to be hardy, so he's going to find some way to make it a little unique, a little twist in there, but then, yeah, he'll be the one that's like nah, we lost, we can't make this call anymore.
01:24:58.987 --> 01:25:00.384
We got to move on no.
01:25:00.384 --> 01:25:00.907
I like it.
01:25:01.479 --> 01:25:02.243
Yeah, I like that one.
01:25:02.243 --> 01:25:03.841
Excellent, all right.
01:25:03.841 --> 01:25:09.172
Top two John Mason first, since he's not the lead, but he's Sean Connery for sure.
01:25:09.172 --> 01:25:10.706
We've spoken about him already.
01:25:10.706 --> 01:25:13.328
If you don't know him by now, just Google it.
01:25:13.328 --> 01:25:15.582
If you haven't been listening, it's okay, we understand.
01:25:15.582 --> 01:25:16.585
The TV was on.
01:25:16.585 --> 01:25:18.408
You were watching something, sean Connery.
01:25:18.408 --> 01:25:20.365
He's playing James Bond, basically in the movie.
01:25:20.365 --> 01:25:24.225
I'll go first this time.
01:25:24.225 --> 01:25:27.448
I'm going to bring you one of Corey's favorites.
01:25:27.448 --> 01:25:28.891
I'll go first this time.
01:25:28.891 --> 01:25:32.725
I'm going to bring you one of Corey's favorites, a man from England himself, I believe Idris Elba.
01:25:32.725 --> 01:25:34.671
That's right For John Mason.
01:25:36.161 --> 01:25:38.385
I'll take it, it's all right there, he should be a Bond.
01:25:38.385 --> 01:25:39.065
He should have been a Bond.
01:25:39.065 --> 01:25:39.988
He could still be a Bond.
01:25:39.988 --> 01:25:40.689
Come on man.
01:25:40.769 --> 01:25:41.390
Pull the trigger.
01:25:42.032 --> 01:25:47.567
Just do it already, I know, Come on, amazon.
01:25:47.627 --> 01:25:49.091
He's aging a bit now, which is fine.
01:25:49.091 --> 01:25:50.193
We'll play into that a little bit.
01:25:50.193 --> 01:25:57.609
We can age him up even a little bit if we want to, and I think he's just going to have real fun chemistry, the same way Connery would with our lead, incredible For sure.
01:25:57.609 --> 01:26:04.068
All right, ash, you'll go next, so give us your DC, john Mason.
01:26:04.939 --> 01:26:15.106
Yeah, I have gone for a actor who has one of my favorites uh, if I'm a favorite actor of all time notoriously played Lex Luthor in a Superman movie.
01:26:15.106 --> 01:26:23.070
Uh, I'm going for not, not Jesse Eisenberg, not Kevin Spacey, but good old and the late, unfortunate Gene Hackman.
01:26:23.070 --> 01:26:38.850
Uh, I'd go for Hummel and this would this would be in 1994, kind of Kind of imagine the character in Crimson Tide, okay, the role of Mason, and he obviously lived to a very healthy age of 90.
01:26:38.850 --> 01:26:55.568
He was pretty much very independent, but he was very well-apped in his 60s and 70s, much like Sean Connery, and I could see he's got the oppression, the fighting not so much, but there's not much fighting or like combat in the movie that he has to do.
01:26:55.640 --> 01:27:04.181
He gets punched a few times but he just you know two or three moves or equipment to help him, but he is playing an old person so he can't play on that.
01:27:04.181 --> 01:27:10.512
So I think that's something believably that gene hackman can portray and he's not scottish but he's got a very.
01:27:10.512 --> 01:27:17.997
He's one of the best actors I know who's got, um, you know a very believable voice, uh, but yeah gene hackman for me, yeah, you could.
01:27:18.019 --> 01:27:26.824
I mean, you could play that many different ways and I think I like to see either uh, replacements, era gene hackman, or even before that, uh, what is the clint eastwood?
01:27:26.824 --> 01:27:31.431
He won the oscar for unforgiven, unforgiven gene hackman for sure that would be a good one.
01:27:31.431 --> 01:27:46.324
Yeah for sure about 1991 ish yeah, yeah, who you got for your john mason ed harris and sean connery share only one scene really that isn't involving gunfighting.
01:27:47.427 --> 01:27:50.646
That's when Ed Harris threatens to kill a hostage for the microchips.
01:27:50.646 --> 01:27:58.125
The guy I want, walking out of the fog, coming towards Dwayne Johnson pointing a gun at some dude's head.
01:27:58.125 --> 01:28:00.645
You can have the glass break if you want.
01:28:01.841 --> 01:28:02.362
Stone cold.
01:28:02.844 --> 01:28:03.485
Steve Austin.
01:28:03.485 --> 01:28:05.621
Give me a hell.
01:28:05.621 --> 01:28:07.207
Yeah, it's not an Irish guy.
01:28:07.207 --> 01:28:08.404
Instead we have a redneck accent.
01:28:08.404 --> 01:28:11.222
All right, okay, all right so that's uh.
01:28:11.784 --> 01:28:21.305
We're gonna rewrite a little bit, yeah, just a little bit of real yeah, I'm not expecting sean connery put on a on a scottish accent okay so, but we're getting old stone cold, steve austin, so that works yeah, I like that.
01:28:21.364 --> 01:28:28.155
Older yeah, with you know older duane johnson there, so that's yeah right, the whole uh the barber scene on the rooftop, though wouldn't you in there, the whole barber scene on the rooftop, though, wouldn't you?
01:28:29.079 --> 01:28:29.783
Oh yeah, you would.
01:28:29.823 --> 01:28:35.614
We'd have to have a wig on him at the beginning and then we'll shave him off.
01:28:35.715 --> 01:28:35.997
Yeah.
01:28:36.881 --> 01:28:37.564
My instructor here.
01:28:37.564 --> 01:28:40.585
That changes the dynamic of the movie.
01:28:40.585 --> 01:28:44.724
So much A little, but yeah, it's fun.
01:28:44.724 --> 01:28:46.042
We're having fun, guys, listen I didn't.
01:28:46.323 --> 01:28:56.626
The only other, roddy Rod piper, doesn't even have an accent, that's true, and he's the kill your best your best bet is uh crap, what's his name drew mcintyre and he's like 30 years old.
01:28:56.766 --> 01:28:59.391
Yeah, he's in his 30s, but you could go for it.
01:28:59.391 --> 01:29:00.701
I can't remember his name right now.
01:29:00.701 --> 01:29:03.085
He he was in aw he says war games now.
01:29:03.085 --> 01:29:07.291
He was the nxt manager like general manager I don't't remember his name.
01:29:07.291 --> 01:29:09.534
They're going to William Regal.
01:29:09.555 --> 01:29:09.715
Yeah.
01:29:09.734 --> 01:29:10.175
William Regal.
01:29:10.175 --> 01:29:12.828
He's the only British wrestler that I can think of.
01:29:12.828 --> 01:29:13.911
That would be prominent enough.
01:29:15.159 --> 01:29:16.625
No, no, but he's been Steve Austin.
01:29:16.625 --> 01:29:17.207
Ok, all right.
01:29:17.346 --> 01:29:18.511
All right, fair, fair, fair enough.
01:29:19.622 --> 01:29:20.565
I do think about these.
01:29:20.565 --> 01:29:21.810
People haven't interact like us.
01:29:21.810 --> 01:29:27.295
I want Dwayne Johnson yelling at CM Punk to give the order and CM Punk refusing to give the order to Dwayne Johnson.
01:29:27.295 --> 01:29:28.895
And then this scene.
01:29:28.895 --> 01:29:30.756
It's the greatest feud of all time.
01:29:31.360 --> 01:29:31.922
It's just going to work.
01:29:31.922 --> 01:29:32.525
I see it.
01:29:32.525 --> 01:29:33.108
I see the vision.
01:29:33.108 --> 01:29:33.761
I see the vision.
01:29:33.761 --> 01:29:35.507
Thank you, I appreciate that.
01:29:35.507 --> 01:29:39.069
Well, corey, I'm going to make you go back to back on your last round.
01:29:39.069 --> 01:29:42.862
So who is Stone Cold Steve Austin going to be buddy copying this with?
01:29:43.563 --> 01:29:45.506
And I have no idea if they have any chemistry at all.
01:29:45.506 --> 01:29:51.474
I can only think of like one youngish actor that I think would just play a lead in anything, and that's MJF.
01:29:51.474 --> 01:29:56.925
Okay, I don't know if he can play a biochemist, but I do think he just.
01:29:56.925 --> 01:29:58.167
He's pure Mike skills.
01:29:58.367 --> 01:30:00.949
Yeah, and therefore it's just line delivery At this point.
01:30:00.989 --> 01:30:06.136
It's just saying Zeus's butthole with a lot of conviction in, you know, in that.
01:30:06.720 --> 01:30:07.003
And that's fun.
01:30:07.003 --> 01:30:19.242
Yeah, you get, it's hard to find like a nerdy wrestler like you'd have to go like like maybe, uh, sammy zane or something like that yeah, I just, I don't know, I just went with jf it just seemed like, and I think he would have chemistry with steve austin.
01:30:19.242 --> 01:30:21.170
Yeah, maybe but at least they'd be.
01:30:21.170 --> 01:30:25.645
He steve austin would be annoyed by him the entire time, and that's really half of the battle.
01:30:25.645 --> 01:30:31.507
And when the prom queen line comes around, mjf's going to say she was the prom queen.
01:30:31.940 --> 01:30:33.407
And he's going to bring the sass right back.
01:30:34.242 --> 01:30:34.743
The entire movie.
01:30:34.743 --> 01:30:37.106
You're going to wait for Steve Austin to kill MJF.
01:30:37.399 --> 01:30:39.567
So you know that, tarantino has writing credits.
01:30:39.969 --> 01:30:40.149
Yeah.
01:30:41.020 --> 01:30:43.595
There's no way he didn't write the F, the prom queen line.
01:30:43.676 --> 01:30:48.047
Oh, 100%, 100%.
01:30:48.047 --> 01:30:51.184
Alsoaron sorkin also had uncredited rising in this movie.
01:30:51.184 --> 01:30:54.680
That's right yeah that's right that's probably really the humble stuff.
01:30:54.739 --> 01:30:55.341
That's probably him.
01:30:55.362 --> 01:31:06.398
You have the I will not give that order really dramatic stuff, and then you have winners go home and f the problem, which tarantino did the same thing in crimson tide.
01:31:06.398 --> 01:31:08.244
He has writing credits in crimson.
01:31:08.265 --> 01:31:08.565
Tide.
01:31:09.725 --> 01:31:09.868
It's.
01:31:10.412 --> 01:31:10.634
Gene.
01:31:10.673 --> 01:31:15.748
Hackman delivering great lines, and then you have Viggo Morrison saying you don't put a condom on unless you're ready to F.
01:31:15.748 --> 01:31:19.266
So there's Tarantino's line in the movie.
01:31:20.189 --> 01:31:22.966
Yes, there's a lot of Tarantino in Crimson Tide.
01:31:22.966 --> 01:31:23.948
I think there's a lot.
01:31:26.948 --> 01:31:27.511
It's good stuff.
01:31:27.612 --> 01:31:27.792
Ash I.
01:31:27.792 --> 01:31:28.073
There's a lot.
01:31:28.073 --> 01:31:28.693
I need to rewatch that Ash.
01:31:28.793 --> 01:31:30.576
I'm gonna give you the honor of the last pick.
01:31:30.576 --> 01:31:33.018
So for my modern cast I'm going a little crazy.
01:31:33.018 --> 01:31:35.199
But keep in mind I'm trying to go with the scientist.
01:31:35.199 --> 01:31:41.640
I want that dynamic going on a little bit, but I wanted somebody that's a little, that can play a little off kilter too, if we need him to.
01:31:41.640 --> 01:31:47.247
I'm giving you, for one of the few times we've cast him in this show, daniel Radcliffe.
01:31:47.247 --> 01:31:50.497
I kind of love it for one of the few times we've cast him in this show, daniel Radcliffe.
01:31:51.162 --> 01:31:52.265
I kind of love it Wait why?
01:31:52.286 --> 01:31:52.587
Because not?
01:31:52.646 --> 01:31:56.194
only are we getting the nerd, we're also getting the guy that's secretly ripped when he takes his shirt off.
01:31:56.194 --> 01:31:58.769
Like Nicolas Cage in the 90s, you're like oh dang.
01:31:59.563 --> 01:32:00.868
Oh, you're kind of buff what happened.
01:32:03.323 --> 01:32:03.765
Yeah.
01:32:03.886 --> 01:32:04.408
I like it.
01:32:04.408 --> 01:32:07.929
There's no one for one for Nicolas Cage.
01:32:07.929 --> 01:32:10.988
Maybe Ash has one in his pocket that he's about to throw at us.
01:32:10.988 --> 01:32:16.746
That's why he's Cage, that's why he's adaptable, he's blendable, moldable.
01:32:18.381 --> 01:32:20.068
Daniel Radcliffe is a very good actor, I would say.
01:32:20.720 --> 01:32:22.981
Yeah, maybe it was the Weird Al movie that sold it to me.
01:32:22.981 --> 01:32:23.844
I don't know.
01:32:24.204 --> 01:32:25.930
Guns Akimbo, he's into it.
01:32:27.600 --> 01:32:28.850
The Harry Potter know, but he can guns akimbo when he commits.
01:32:28.850 --> 01:32:29.212
Yeah, he's into it.
01:32:29.212 --> 01:32:29.717
The harry potter um ash.
01:32:29.717 --> 01:32:33.533
Before you give your final pick of the show, I'm gonna give a real quick thing.
01:32:33.533 --> 01:32:39.966
Cage insisted on adding quirky character traits to godspeed, such as his love for the beatles and his refusal to swear, which I noticed in this rewatch.
01:32:39.966 --> 01:32:43.520
He performed several of his own stunts, including the car chase through san francisco.
01:32:43.520 --> 01:32:48.088
So cage was like you're not gonna let me not drive through San Francisco in this car.
01:32:48.088 --> 01:32:50.873
So fun times, fun times.
01:32:50.934 --> 01:32:55.024
He also fought for the Zeus's butthole line did he really can you imagine having to go to director?
01:32:55.024 --> 01:33:00.364
Be like my character would say that and like in the director, being like no, that's ridiculous.
01:33:00.364 --> 01:33:01.046
That was a weird ad lib.
01:33:01.046 --> 01:33:01.287
Don't do it.
01:33:01.307 --> 01:33:08.753
He's like if you take this out, I'll walk yeah, yeah, I thought that would have been a Tarantino ad or something.
01:33:09.161 --> 01:33:14.328
No, apparently a lot of Nick Cage's stuff was ad-libbed, apparently like this movie was not supposed to be as humorous as it is.
01:33:14.328 --> 01:33:16.326
But, it's just they kept coming.
01:33:16.606 --> 01:33:17.329
Well, I'm glad it did.
01:33:17.329 --> 01:33:18.524
That works out really well.
01:33:18.524 --> 01:33:24.145
It worked very well, Ash, for your DC cast list.
01:33:24.145 --> 01:33:28.614
Who is topping this list in the role of Stanley Goodspeed?
01:33:30.002 --> 01:33:31.006
I think I've got a good pick.
01:33:31.006 --> 01:33:41.247
You're right, nicolas Cage, you can't replace him, but you can give it a damn good go, so let's get nuts.
01:33:41.247 --> 01:33:42.890
I'm going to pick a Batman.
01:33:42.890 --> 01:33:45.445
Batman in the main role.
01:33:45.445 --> 01:33:48.087
I really think he could do this role honestly and I'm sticking with the 1994 that I've completely obliterated in the last seven picks.
01:33:48.087 --> 01:33:52.539
Really think he could do this role honestly and I'm sticking with the 1994 that I've completely obliterated in the last seven picks, but this one I'm sticking.
01:33:52.539 --> 01:33:54.404
Yeah, yeah, I'm going to.
01:33:54.404 --> 01:33:55.426
I'm going with michael keaton.
01:33:56.207 --> 01:34:05.260
Michael keaton, that side of him where he literally does for sure go nuts, um, I mean beetlejuice, clearly being like the, the big example.
01:34:05.260 --> 01:34:14.604
But if you, if you watch him in one of those rom-coms like Duplicity or one of those Jack Frost, you see the hint of that crazy.
01:34:14.604 --> 01:34:15.667
He could have played the.
01:34:15.707 --> 01:34:15.969
Joker.
01:34:17.722 --> 01:34:19.429
He could have played the Joker as well, as Batman as well.
01:34:19.429 --> 01:34:22.368
For me he's so diverse in terms of what Batman can do.
01:34:22.368 --> 01:34:26.042
I think he never got the opportunity in the 90s to really explore it.
01:34:26.042 --> 01:34:29.007
It was sort of that dull period of his.
01:34:29.007 --> 01:34:37.828
But yeah, I think, if you put him in that role, I think he could definitely give it a good bash for just going a bit crazy, going nuts and having those ad libs now and again.
01:34:37.880 --> 01:34:41.966
But yeah, beetlejuice is definitely the I guess case study that he could audition.
01:34:41.966 --> 01:34:44.145
He could probably pull this off.
01:34:44.145 --> 01:34:46.828
I'm not saying he has to go crazy with it, but he could be.
01:34:46.828 --> 01:35:05.645
He could easily, easily, um, convince audiences that he's a nerd, a geek, uh, he's frail, and then all of a sudden he can just sort of turn that screw kind of like when he shoots that guy and then mason's like I'm rather glad you didn't hurt her too long, that that kind of, and his eyes are just fired up with zoomies.
01:35:05.645 --> 01:35:08.975
But yeah, I think, yeah, I think he could definitely do.
01:35:08.975 --> 01:35:12.365
He could probably replicate what nicholas cage did in a pretty convincing way I think.
01:35:12.766 --> 01:35:14.811
Oh for sure people forget that this is.
01:35:14.811 --> 01:35:16.006
He was a comedian to start with.
01:35:16.006 --> 01:35:18.099
That was the whole thing about his casting of batman was.
01:35:18.099 --> 01:35:20.569
Everybody was up in arms going why did you cast, mr mom?
01:35:20.569 --> 01:35:21.592
Why did you cast?
01:35:21.592 --> 01:35:23.801
And probably because he played beetlejuice.
01:35:24.103 --> 01:35:31.082
He didn't want to play the Joker, I imagine huh, yeah, I would imagine, um, wow, okay, I like it.
01:35:31.082 --> 01:35:32.988
I like it.
01:35:32.988 --> 01:35:35.153
He's been around a lot of dead bodies it's that normal.
01:35:35.153 --> 01:35:37.744
What's the foot thing?
01:35:37.744 --> 01:35:42.113
Yeah, um, nick, I gotta be honest with you.
01:35:42.113 --> 01:35:45.287
When you said you're doing a modern cast, I thought I had you pegged.
01:35:45.287 --> 01:35:48.358
I did not envision Radcliffe and Elba.
01:35:48.358 --> 01:35:53.520
Listen, and I don't, I mean, they're both English yeah, so I mean Tom Hardy's English too.
01:35:53.520 --> 01:36:00.753
Yeah, maybe now yeah, I really thought you were gonna repackage Gosling and crow.
01:36:00.774 --> 01:36:04.435
I know you're a big nice guys would have been nice actually.
01:36:04.435 --> 01:36:05.680
I take back what I did.
01:36:05.720 --> 01:36:09.328
I was like I was like it's working to get to a Gosling-Crow reunion here, man.
01:36:11.720 --> 01:36:13.302
Yeah, because Gosling has the zaniness.
01:36:13.462 --> 01:36:14.765
He can do it.
01:36:14.765 --> 01:36:15.587
It's a little weird.
01:36:15.587 --> 01:36:21.568
I would have you know who I would do, just because Jake Gyllenhaal is my favorite modern-day actor.
01:36:21.568 --> 01:36:24.704
Now, for some reason, I would pair him with Keanu Reeves as Mason.
01:36:25.886 --> 01:36:32.184
He's high energy and low energy and it would just work.
01:36:32.203 --> 01:36:33.185
Wait, who would be playing Mason?
01:36:33.185 --> 01:36:35.631
Huh, who would be playing Mason?
01:36:35.631 --> 01:36:39.506
Keanu or Jake Keanu would be amazing.
01:36:39.506 --> 01:36:39.847
Old man.
01:36:39.868 --> 01:36:40.409
Keanu and young.
01:36:40.510 --> 01:36:41.493
Gyllenhaal.
01:36:41.800 --> 01:36:46.279
Is this high energy, like almost ADHD, and then like a dude that just constantly seems like he's meditating?
01:36:46.881 --> 01:36:48.228
Yeah, or just gets really annoyed.
01:36:50.104 --> 01:36:52.987
I think Keanu delivers the American equivalent of Sean Connery.
01:36:52.987 --> 01:36:53.722
It's just like.
01:36:53.722 --> 01:36:54.587
You must never hesitate.
01:36:56.362 --> 01:36:59.969
It's just going on a trip with John Wick, basically as he crosses my TV screen.
01:37:03.323 --> 01:37:06.445
Just make this the John Wick, james Bond, it's just.
01:37:06.445 --> 01:37:08.284
This is what happens to John Wick he gets arrested.
01:37:08.305 --> 01:37:08.747
There it is.
01:37:08.747 --> 01:37:10.264
We've modernized it.
01:37:10.264 --> 01:37:11.027
We've done it, guys.
01:37:11.027 --> 01:37:16.047
Done Hollywood has given us a million dollars for this idea.
01:37:16.047 --> 01:37:16.670
I love it.
01:37:18.042 --> 01:37:19.828
One car chasing yes.
01:37:21.640 --> 01:37:22.243
That's it, Corey.
01:37:22.323 --> 01:37:22.907
That's the rock.
01:37:22.907 --> 01:37:28.345
That's the rock scene in DC 94 sort of Modern and wrestling.
01:37:28.345 --> 01:37:28.465
We had a little fun.
01:37:28.465 --> 01:37:30.011
We got the Rock as seen in DC 94, sort of modern and wrestling.
01:37:31.122 --> 01:37:32.627
We had a little fun, we got a little real with it.
01:37:33.381 --> 01:37:34.265
Yeah, it was fun.
01:37:35.279 --> 01:37:36.345
Ash is completely tired right now.
01:37:36.345 --> 01:37:37.440
It's probably like 3 in the morning.
01:37:37.440 --> 01:37:39.842
There it's 2 44.
01:37:39.842 --> 01:37:40.887
Yeah, pretty much close.
01:37:40.887 --> 01:37:42.827
We got him in bed before 3.
01:37:43.020 --> 01:37:46.426
I'm just realizing I didn't put a Batista in my, you did not.
01:37:46.426 --> 01:37:48.877
I didn't put the best wrestling actor, the best actor.
01:37:53.510 --> 01:37:54.773
Because you were thinking of wrestlers.
01:37:54.773 --> 01:38:00.051
It's kind of, yeah, he's actually transcended this so much.
01:38:00.323 --> 01:38:01.680
We don't think of him as a wrestler.
01:38:01.760 --> 01:38:05.148
Right, yeah, that's the thing Such a good actor.
01:38:05.247 --> 01:38:05.588
Alright cool.
01:38:07.167 --> 01:38:08.313
Well, that's it.
01:38:08.313 --> 01:38:09.840
We hope you enjoyed this episode.
01:38:09.840 --> 01:38:15.268
Um um, I think we're out of bay him for a while, though I think we're gonna take a break for michael bay I think our fans will appreciate.
01:38:15.307 --> 01:38:17.356
Yeah, um, but if you've never seen the rock.
01:38:17.356 --> 01:38:20.529
I cannot stress how fun this movie is, um, and you should watch it.
01:38:20.529 --> 01:38:21.010
It's, it's.
01:38:21.010 --> 01:38:21.270
It's.
01:38:21.270 --> 01:38:34.744
It's not pete cage, because face off happens a year later, but it's on the the way to Pete Cage, and so, but yes, and again, if you have time for a triple feature, it's this, it's Con Air, it's face off.
01:38:34.744 --> 01:38:35.467
Treat yourself.
01:38:35.467 --> 01:38:38.024
It's a great day, it's an amazing day.
01:38:38.024 --> 01:38:40.344
But follow us on social media.
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Tell us what you think of these casts.
01:38:42.323 --> 01:38:43.228
Give us your own cast.
01:38:43.228 --> 01:38:44.682
Someone, give me a Muppet cast.
01:38:44.682 --> 01:38:49.082
I wanted to do it, but I I didn't hesitated he, he hit, he was, he withheld.
01:38:49.462 --> 01:38:51.791
I'll tell you right now, bean bunny would have played captain fry.
01:38:51.791 --> 01:38:56.167
That's just I.
01:38:56.167 --> 01:39:01.283
I just bean buddy will be in every cast I ever do, um, and he will die the most horrifically um.
01:39:01.283 --> 01:39:02.385
So no, actually no.
01:39:02.385 --> 01:39:08.247
Bean bunny would play in my the rock movie, just the guy when they're stealing the vxHex that gets locked in.
01:39:08.247 --> 01:39:16.725
They just close it on him and he's just at the window melting the frog looks on because he's Hummel.
01:39:18.649 --> 01:39:19.902
Because Gonzo's Nick Cage.
01:39:19.902 --> 01:39:21.641
Obviously Nick Cage is Nick Cage.
01:39:21.641 --> 01:39:24.345
He's my only human in this, or it could be Connery.
01:39:24.585 --> 01:39:26.141
I don't know if Connery would have done it.
01:39:26.141 --> 01:39:27.927
Michael Caine could do it, yeah we'll just put.
01:39:27.948 --> 01:39:28.247
Michael.
01:39:28.268 --> 01:39:29.853
Caine in John Mason's role.
01:39:29.853 --> 01:39:33.630
There you go and the rest are Muppets and he's playing it like a heart attack.
01:39:33.630 --> 01:39:37.470
It's Gonzo's Cage, oh my gosh.
01:39:37.470 --> 01:39:40.301
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01:39:52.354 --> 01:39:53.375
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01:39:53.375 --> 01:39:54.657
Say goodnight, Nick, Goodnight.
01:39:56.221 --> 01:39:56.362
Ash.