Something Borrowed, Something Blue: TV Weddings of the GenX Era

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[SPEAKER_07]: Carol has to call each one on the telephone to tell them the big news about the double wedding.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So it's like, bring, bring, hello.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, it's Greg, and he's a doctor.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Bring, bring, hello.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's Peter, and he's in the air force.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Bring, bring, oh, Bobby's playing college baseball.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Bring, bring, send me a single college.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's so fun.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And that cousin Oliver.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Hello, well, there's a song that we're singing Come on, get happy Oh, love, love is what we're gonna be bringing We'll make you happy
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[SPEAKER_06]: Welcome to the Pop Culture Preservation Society, the podcast for people born in the big wheel generation that memorized phone numbers for fun, and now can't remember a password without resetting it three times.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We believe our genics childhoods gave us unforgettable song, stories, characters, and images, and if we don't talk about them, they'll disappear, like Marshall Will and Holly on a routine expedition.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And today, we'll be saving the love, drama, and happily ever afters that shaped us.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The must-see TV weddings we're saying I do required a full week of build-up, three-loved triangles, and Emilson ratings record.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm Carolyn.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm Kristen.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm Michelle, and we are your pop culture preservationists.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay everybody, grab your rice or Jordan almonds and maybe even a few tissues because today at the Pop Culture Preservation Society, we are dusting off the chiffon, queuing up the organ music and throwing the bouquet to all the iconic small screen weddings that captured our gen X hearts.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Today's episode was actually inspired by one of the most watched TV moments of our Gen X childhood, the wedding of Rotomorgan Stern.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Over 50 million people tuned in to watch our girl finally say I do, proving that sometimes television weddings can be just as thrilling and hard breaking as the ones in real life.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And when we shared an image of that iconic TV wedding and recent post, oh my gosh, many of you had some feelings to share.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We actually shared that post as a way to crowdsource for today's episode, but so many of you wanted to share moments and memories you had from that episode.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I want to just see you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, just from that wrote a one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I just wanted to share a couple with you that stood out for me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So our listener missed chip nicks wrote this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She said in the 70s I lived in Panama.
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[SPEAKER_04]: My dad was an engineer on a hydro electric dam being built on the Bionno river.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if that's how I pronounce it or not the Bionno river.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that sounds good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We were living at the damn site pretty close to the jungle.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, and she said it was so deathly boring for teenager.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But we were able to get the US forces TV channel.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And she and her mom were big fans of road up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: While they didn't get to see the episode until 1975, when it did air, she said, Mom and I got dressed up like wedding guests and had tea and fancy sandwiches.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And she said,
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so I'd be for Roda.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so what's up, happy?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I want to have a shared that in, I think it was our married time or more episode, maybe, where I wrote a, who knows, we've talked about Roda and Mary a lot.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we're working on it, our little soul, soul sisters, but that people bought wedding gifts.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And she sent them, she was CBS studios and that's yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you can kind of see how that's next much infected people.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And how much of that I wonder is because Rota was getting married before Mary.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It was so unexpected and you just thought, well, certainly Mary's going to get married.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, look at her and she's just the apple.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Everyone's eye, but poor Rota's always second banana.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And here she was getting married and
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, a couple people even commented they had a crush on Joe.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So in June, so she's marrying, you know, somebody that's kind of a little I can't be for some of us.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So that's right, that was really special for her.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I loved this comment.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So Elaine P. 59 74.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This was on Threads and she commented, I was visiting L.A. and went to CBS Studios and was in the audience and watched the filming.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I set next to Marshal Wallace.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I can't even imagine my gosh, like, how on earth can that be even a thing like your head would be spinning you guys I if I was her that would be more special and memorable than my own wedding.
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[SPEAKER_06]: This is Marta Wallace.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Right, well, the other two, right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And when you said that, Carolyn, I stopped for a minute because I was like, wait, she said she was in LA, but wrote about married in New York.
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[SPEAKER_07]: No Christmas.
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[SPEAKER_07]: No Christmas.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's just...
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[SPEAKER_06]: Interesting.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Where did you, yeah?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Where did you send the wedding gifts in the 70s?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because I hope you got the right address.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I spent them to Ida Morgan Stern in Brooklyn.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You figured there had to be some on-site locations for that episode because she is running through the streets of New York in the epic beginning to you know catch the train in the subway tunnel Fill us in her bags together.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I've never dressed must have been so dirty.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, and I love this comment that Go Su's left on our post.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She said, she remembers when Roda realized she's going to have to hook it to her wedding, and she kind of wants to hide her dress.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So she puts on a white cardigan.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That'll do it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's so Roda.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Rowan's wedding was actually just one of the many ceremonies that we still fondly recall today.
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[SPEAKER_04]: From soap opera, extravaganza's with motorcycles, Elizabeth Taylor, and I can't choose to sitcom nocturals that felt like family reunions.
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[SPEAKER_04]: TV weddings of the 70s and 80s weren't just episodes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They were advanced, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: They were the kind of moments that glued us to the couch, kept us whispering about plot twists on the playground.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And even made our parents peek around the corner to see what all the fuss was about.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, what was the eye patch?
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[SPEAKER_04]: remind me of the eye patch.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, that's a soap wedding and that would be when patching.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's right there in the word.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I was thinking, I was picturing Elizabeth Taylor the page, and I convinced myself that that was something.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I was like, oh, yeah, I think I can't remember that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I should've had no doubt.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I should've had no doubt.
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[SPEAKER_06]: After one of those colleges in the 80s.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I should've read it more like, from soap opera extravagance as with motorcycles, Elizabeth Taylor, and I hatches.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because the patch has this like one tear that comes down from the patch.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Honey.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You guys love a wedding episode.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Love a wedding episode.
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[SPEAKER_06]: However, having said that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: very much dependent on the show because like if it was a soap opera or a drama, I was also in this is just in my character, I was very uneasy that something bad or uncomfortable.
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[SPEAKER_06]: like the old boyfriend would walk in right when the priest says, if anyone knows why this couple shouldn't be married, speak now and you're like, you know, yeah, so even though I say, I love a wedding episode.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Also, it seemed like wedding episodes were the most like anxiety ridden for something.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Will day or won't they?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Will day or won't they?
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[SPEAKER_07]: You've pointed out a big difference between soap opera weddings and sitcom weddings because I think the soap opera weddings were a plot twist and a cliffhanger and the sitcom weddings were a time for all of us to get together and love our characters.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I think coming up for the rest of this episode, we're going to basically prove that point to be true.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And we can all say that little Michelle that feeling of anxiety wasn't unfounded.
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[SPEAKER_06]: because of the chemistry of the shows I watched and the weddings I witnessed, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: So for this episode, we crowdsourced and we asked you guys what are the memorable TV weddings that stick in your mind?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And even though we were going for prime time,
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[SPEAKER_04]: TV sitcomy kind of weddings a lot of you shared those soap opera weddings.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I want you to know that we see you and we hear you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We talked about a lot of these in our previous soap opera episode in our super couple soap couple episode.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But just to get it out of the way and let you know that we are covering our bases, I just wrote a little piece of poetry to get the most mentioned soap operas give them a little love, okay, and get them out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So here we go you guys this is my soap opera wedding poem kind of like a little count now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's nothing fancy So Jen exes top soap opera weddings Stephen Betsy as the world turns sweet young love.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh What burns?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Vicky in land view veils so wide when life to live gave us bride after bride Jenny and Greg pine valley sweet song their vows felt perfect though fate to them wrong
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[SPEAKER_04]: Tara and Phil, the first AMC flame, in wedding day whispers they carved out their name.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Marlena and Roman in Salem's glow, romance and danger soaps best combo.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Erica Kane, oh, the queen of the aisle, the weddings were endless, each one in style.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Victor and Nikki in Jenna was glare, diamonds deception, and fabulous hair.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Bo and Hope, a royal wedding they had, the kind of wedding that made Jenak so glad.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Luke and Laura, the daytime crown jewel, 20 million tuned in.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now that's pretty cool.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The soaps made weddings, big, bold and true, with lace, tears and drama, just made for you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We're going to share the most mentioned episodes with you today, and I'll start by saying that you can only imagine how elated I was to see this wedding mentioned over and over in our comments, and you know it gets my vote as the best TV wedding ever.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But also I hated it a little bit because it was not me marrying Chachi.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It was stupid journey stupid journey.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I think a lot of you longtime listeners, you know that we have a bale disclaimer.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We stand in our truth in our love for Chachi and maybe even the Scott Bale of the late 70s.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But we don't like him now.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, um, for real, though you guys, when I watched this wedding yesterday on YouTube, and I saw Chachi standing at the front for the very first time in my whole life, my heart didn't catch.
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[SPEAKER_06]: My disgust, let's got Bale, has finally caught up to my love of Chachi.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Isn't that sad?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, that's a little sad.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It is sad.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was kind of like, ooh.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, that made me really sad.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Anyway, let's not dwell on that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's for a different conversation.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You're growing and changing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You're growing and changing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Our little Michelle is growing up.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Johnny and Trachy's wedding was the final episode of Happy Days.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And really marked the end of an era.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, Richie and Lori Beth even came home for that wedding.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I mean, it was a long time coming because Joni and Trachi had been a TV hit couple, even though they were on again off again for like six years.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If you remember, Trachi first appears in season five in 1977, and instantly makes Joni his romantic like Mark, even though she is repulsed by him and then he finally wears her down and you know season seven.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So it was a lot taller than him at that time.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It was really memorable and meaningful to have them get married then on the series finale because what better occasions bring everyone together than a wedding and it really felt like a perfect ending for everyone and we can't forget the way that episode ended to Mr. Cunningham's toast where he breaks the fourth wall for just a hot second and looks right at the camera and says thank you all for being part of our family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: happy dates.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It was the perfect way to bring the series to an end because everybody's gathered at this really, you know, meaning full ceremony and everybody's there again.
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[SPEAKER_06]: My god, Jenny Pickleau's the Brides made with a big old little shot and bow at the back of her head.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I had forgotten it was the last episode.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I was associating Johnny and Chachi getting married with the show, Johnny and Chachi and that
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think I've shared this before with you guys when we've talked about this particular episode, but for me, it marked the end of my childhood, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: You were going to think I just sobbed like uncontrollably.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was a freshman in college.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was finals time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was studying for,
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[SPEAKER_04]: some algebra final or something in emotions were running high, and it just hit me that like, this is it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's bye-bye, childhood.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is the real world now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So that episode always hits me a little bit harder than just, oh, this show I love for this long was, is now going away.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was, it was a lot.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It was bitter sweet though to the episode because during about throughout the whole ceremony, which, you know, it was only about six minutes, Marianne keeps looking at Mr. C and she's crying, but she'll look right at him and she'll dab her.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, she's fully crying and you know it was because of, you know, the character is supposed to, you know, she's very emotional that her daughter's getting married, but also I think it's really hitting her.
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[SPEAKER_06]: as Marion Ross when how we're cutting him when he gives the toast at the end also he chokes up and right when he says that thank you all for being a part of our family and stuff he chokes up like he can barely speak and you know that's probably really Tom Bosley who's feeling that emotion and so it's a very sweet episode to rewatch.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I just got like really choked up.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's just, I didn't, I've not gotten choked up when we've talked about it before, but to not only end the episode surrounded by all of your people, but to do it with a wedding, which is an emotional thing anyway, and to them it might have been like a symbolic wedding, like a symbol of the kids on the show growing up and Carolyn, you're growing up, and then we're bringing it all to an end.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I think it's sort of like, sometimes we've talked about this before, like the day after the wedding,
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[SPEAKER_07]: Anybody's wedding, whether you're in it, or going to it can be a real downer like
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[SPEAKER_07]: that purge my life is over.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, and actually the first part of his toast is exactly that Kristen.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's talking about we've raised these kids and now they're adults and now we get to see them with people they love and they're going to then, you know, share these memories with their children and so there's a lot of kind of double meaning in his entire toast really to be honest.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We're getting super serious about Joni and Chachi.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I know what.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Also, let me just say that back then, and again, like yesterday when I watched it, I did not like Johnny's dress or her veil, but I don't even have any.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I think at the time, I didn't like it because I was like, I don't like anything about you because you're not me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Or I'm not you, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And then when I watched it again, I was like, nope, I still have that same opinion.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Another happy day is wedding that was mentioned was the one that took place on May 5, 1981, that would have been season eight, episode 19.
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[SPEAKER_06]: As you know, Ron Howard had left happy days in 1980 to pursue directing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So they had richy go to the army.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So when Richie and Lori Beth finally get married,
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[SPEAKER_06]: Um, unless she's like married or something, unless she's, you know, like married to one of the souls.
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[SPEAKER_06]: She's not a white man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's something like that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not entirely sure, but that was in my memory.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So they decide to get married over the telephone with Fonzi standing in as Praxie or for Richie.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I remember it's super cute, and I thought that was really sweet, but in my memory they're in the Cunningham's house, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I think he's using the phone on the wall.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, yes, yes, it was a wall phone.
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[SPEAKER_09]: It was really cute that they wrote it that way.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So many of you share it how much you love the weddings on this this I don't know why this surprised me but it did when you say TV wedding this is not the first show that comes to my mind but so many of you piped in with memories of a little house on the prairie.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I just think this is so funny but it gets even better because the shocking thing to me is that the wedding people mentioned the most in our comments.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Nelly and Perseval.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe because we were so shocked that Nellie found a- There's someone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who Nellie owns it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Take personal here for your wedded husband.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To love, to honor, and to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To death do you part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I now pronounce you man and wife.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can she bride, person?
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[SPEAKER_07]: There's so much to that because the obvious pick is Laura and El Manzo slash El Manzo however you choose to say it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I refuse to say El Manzo even if that's proper.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Laura and El Manzo got married in season 7 but if you guys were like me this was a very uncomfortable day for you.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I was yes.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I was not ready for a Laura to get married.
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[SPEAKER_07]: maybe because she was marrying a full-grown man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So I think I was in denial about what was happening and just kind of looked away.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So maybe that's why it wasn't Laura and Almanzo that popped up in people's comments.
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[SPEAKER_07]: There's also the wedding of Mary and Adam, which also made me uncomfortable.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think I, because I knew they won't really blind.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And the melodrama is just
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[SPEAKER_07]: off the charts.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's so it's too much.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I could not deal because if you recall Mary gets cold feet because she's afraid that they won't be able to raise children safely.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But then she overcomes her anxiety and love wins.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But then you guys one red comment was like, well, you did leave your baby in a burning building.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So that's a little foreshadowing.
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[SPEAKER_07]: that Paw throws to cheer up Ma when she thinks she's pregnant, but it's really just menopause.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Which is a super loaded, it's a very loaded episode because all of a sudden Ma's like a broken person because she can't give life anymore and she's all worried about Paw because he won't have any more, he won't be able to sire anything anymore and so
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[SPEAKER_07]: She's worried about disappointing him, and she's not really a woman anymore, and he thinks that she is feeling less womanly, so I'm going to prove to her how womanly she is, and let's get married, and it was done.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And when we talked to Karen Grassley, when we interviewed Karen Grassley, she was like, yeah, that was done.
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[SPEAKER_07]: She agreed.
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[SPEAKER_07]: She was like, because we thought, oh, this is great.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They're talking about menopause on the little house on the prairie.
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[SPEAKER_07]: She's like, yeah, through the eyes of men.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It turned out good.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: One of the writers was currently going through this issue with his wife and so they wrote it into the script and she's like, that was his view.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He thought that she felt like she wasn't a woman anymore and the whole siren thing is just so weird.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's worth it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We're going to propagate the earth.
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[SPEAKER_07]: right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So Val Renewal, blah, blah, blah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We didn't like it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But Nelly and Perseval, now this made sense.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Because this was an opposite to Tract scenario that really worked because Perseval allowed Nelly to really be who she was without, you know,
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[SPEAKER_07]: just removing the dick part like she wasn't a dick all the time.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He took away the bite but he didn't water her down really.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So if you recall, Perseval was even was shorter than Nally which kind of made it a little comedic.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Again, we have opposites attract and one of the things that Nally does to win him over is she kind of walks with her knees bent a little bit so she would appear shorter.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like this is Elhob comedy at its best.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And also, remember, personal, personal was Jewish.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Again, opposites attract.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And the prairie is all about church and bringing in the sheaves and Reverend Alden.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But I know.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, totally.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Reverend Alden of the big red nose.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But also, Michael Landon was Jewish.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So maybe this is how Michael Landon was married to Little House on the prairie.
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[SPEAKER_07]: See, this is like book club.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So, Nelly and Perseveral were married outside on the prairie by Doc Baker.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I was like, where's Reverend Alden?
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't understand.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And you can hear throughout the whole ceremony, you can hear Mrs. Olsen sobbing in the background.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's like, oh, like wailing.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But Nelly and Perseveral are so jacked that they don't even notice.
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[SPEAKER_07]: She is so excited.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They're so excited to be getting married.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And Nelly is wearing the biggest bow that has ever been worn on a human head, ever in the history of television.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And all of the other weddings outside of this one, they were so melodramatic.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Mary's of course is the worst.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They're like pretending to stare at a spot that's just off-center and then they choke out like, I love you.
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[SPEAKER_07]: as too much, but now the impersonal is wedding fun.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They actually seem like they might run into the house and have sex quickly before the party.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And you're like silly kids.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Good for you.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And with the others, I could never have thought about that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I did not want to think about Laura and Braids going in the house to have sex with a grown man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, so gross.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, no, remember by then in that one episode where she meets him, she goes from braids to like a poorly updo in the episode.
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[SPEAKER_06]: One episode.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So she's actually in braids when she meets Almonds.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, and she's a little Laura in braids and her little plaid dress, her little calico dress.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And by the end, she's in the long skirts with the because she says it's because she's, you know, she needs to look more like a school teacher.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_06]: but it's all the swoopy and I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You can't, you can't put lipstick on a pig.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Not just say that Laura was, we love Laura and also can we all just remember that Melissa Gilbert was also a little creeped out by that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Because she was a child and we were not ready.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We were, let's just say, we weren't ready and it's not because we were attached to Laura in that way.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's because Laura was 15 years old.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It was a month of was 82.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't believable.
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[SPEAKER_06]: One of the, the, the, she writes about this in depth and her first book, Melissa Gilbert's first book.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And one of the things that sticks out, I haven't read that book in probably four years.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I just remember when she's talking about the first time, they told her she was gonna have a love interest, Laura Ingles, and she was like, you know, it's gonna be Almanza Wilder, and she's like, okay.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And when she saw him, when she saw Dean Butler walk in,
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[SPEAKER_06]: She was like, wait, what?
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[SPEAKER_06]: What, like, he's a man.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I remember the way she described it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: One of the ways is she said, here I was, this little girl, I hadn't even shaved my leg yet.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I was supposed to be realistically like with this man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So we were it's not us it's not us it's the situation.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The other thing that I did not want to see on the prairie was pregnancy.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Do you remember when Nellie was pregnant and she wore like a big prairie style tent dress?
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[SPEAKER_07]: What do we actually know about maternity fashions in the pioneer days?
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I just think that goes hand-in-hand with with the wedding and as I was going through as I was researching for this there are all these pictures of Nellie pregnant.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm like I'm really happy you and personal found each other
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was a far leap for our little brains, too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, I mean, maybe, and Mrs. Olson being a grandmother and yeah, all the things.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, there were some other weddings that I don't remember, like the exact details, but when Mr. Edwards gets married, I mean, it was so happy for him.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That was lovely wedding.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, it was.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I loved that wedding.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's almost in the same category as Nelly and Perseval.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They weren't people you expected to find love.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Right, it wasn't sexy, it wasn't sexy, you don't need it to be sexy.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, this next wedding is going to take some tact and tenderness to talk about, unfortunately, because it currently hits so close to home and doesn't seem as soap opera-e as it once did.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And this would be Dynasties season five finale cliffhanger known as the Moldavian massacre, which aired on May 18th, 1985.
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[SPEAKER_06]: and terrorists storm the wedding of Amanda Carrington that's Blake and Alexis has long lost daughter.
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[SPEAKER_06]: She was played by Catherine Oxenberg.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I loved her.
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[SPEAKER_06]: God, I thought she wasn't.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's really great.
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[SPEAKER_06]: God, I thought she was beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If you like in real life, she was like a real princess of some sort too.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I think she was married.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think she has some real blood in her.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And Prince Michael, um, who is the prince of the fictional
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[SPEAKER_06]: And the terror storm they're wedding and they open fire at the end of the ceremony for what felt like 10 solid minutes.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I just watched it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's only like two.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was so uneasy watching this and then the season ends with
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[SPEAKER_06]: pretty much every main character on dynasty, lying bloodied and motionless on the church floor.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And what I remember when I watched this in 1985 and then when I just watched the clip and we'll put a clip of this in the weekly reader this week.
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[SPEAKER_06]: This was a really smart choice by the, you know, I don't know if it was a showrunners, the director, whoever, but
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[SPEAKER_06]: After all the gunshots go away, it's silent and the camera is just panning around all of those main characters and you're seeing them lying eyes closed motionless and then it just fades to black.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And they literally stop on each character.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like you're getting this face, this face, this face.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It was jarring.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's quite jarring.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Not to mention just the, like you said it felt like it went on for 10 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_07]: This was not bang bang.
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[SPEAKER_07]: This was a massacre that went on for minutes and minutes and minutes and minutes.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It was I mean you do have a little bit of the you know the Hollywood aspect to it because you have like you know the guys they're like swinging in on ropes like you know Robinhood style like the giant church when are the giant windows of the castle so they're like coming through the plate last windows you know shooting as they're go and you even got like the palace guards that are wearing like those gladiator style like
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, so it's almost like comical, but then anyway, it it was very traumatic and I will say is hard to watch right now because of the state we find ourselves in in this country and in this world and so I'm quite certain when I watched it in 1985 I wasn't thinking oh that I feel like that could happen.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It was not scary.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It was not scary.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It was dramatic.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But it was heartbreaking.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it was a very hard fight.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But just wildly memorable.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because when you see, you know, you see a Lexus and you see, you know, Christolum.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like you see all of them laying their motionless and you think, who could possibly survive this?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, just about everybody, let me tell you, because in September, the six season premier revealed that the only fatalities were Steve Carrington's boyfriend, played by Billy Campbell and Jeff Colby's girlfriend, Allie McGraw.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, none of the apparently dead main cast actually bit the bullet because they all popped up.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They were all fine.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Does the people in a contrast had expired probably?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I think they did it for Cliff Hanger and for, you know, ratings and it worked because dynasty never again retained the ratings that did during that finale.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_06]: This show did go on for four more seasons before it concluded in 1989, but that was the ratings juggernaut.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And they worked it, man, they milked that end.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And it did work.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But then as is all, it's so pop-rass.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We're low.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They don't jump up and the first step is up.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It was a that's right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It just greased.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Grease my elbow or something.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so anyway, lots of comments about that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We'll leave you in, wedding.
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[SPEAKER_04]: As the, um...
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[SPEAKER_04]: designated tally counterperson of this crowdsourcing that we did.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I would say that this wedding, the dynasty one was the most mentioned of all of them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So yes, people had feelings.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Let's just say, the, you know,
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[SPEAKER_06]: however many minutes leading up to that awful terrorist attack, it is the quintessential fairy tale princess wedding.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, first of all, she couldn't have a swoopier like bun thing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, like we always talk about the the swoopy somewhere in time, type bun, the Jane Seymour bun.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It couldn't be bigger and poof here.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And if you've ever thought of the biggest, most elaborate, fairytale princess wedding gown, you could ever think of and veils in twill, multiply it times 50.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And that's what Amanda Carrington is wearing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And he's super handsome.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's got the 1985 mallet, you know?
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[SPEAKER_06]: picture like the John Stamos like mallet and he's I've played by Michael Perei I believe super handsome and so yes it's in a castle and so that makes it memorable as well because it was the most over-the-top outrageous Carrington dynasty fairy tale wedding with the most beautiful bright-and-groom you could ever imagine.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That made me think of one that didn't make your poem Carolyn was Nina and Cliff getting married in the castle.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That was a good one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That was a big one.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That was a big one.
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[SPEAKER_07]: If you get married in Castle, that's going to be really memorable.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But when Michelle sent us this clip, she's like, you better watch this before we talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It was a really good history lesson for me.
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[SPEAKER_07]: because it made it so much easier to draw a line between then and now.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You could put that on TV then because like you said, it was far fetched and that couldn't happen and it couldn't happen because those kinds of weapons couldn't be purchased by somebody who wasn't in the military.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Only military personnel or terrorist groups have those kinds of weapons.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So that was never going to happen at a wedding.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, fast forward to today.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Just regular people on the street do have those weapons.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They can have those weapons and they use those weapons to do those things now, wherever they want.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And so to watch it today, it was.
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[SPEAKER_07]: such a wake up call to me like, oh, it is different now.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It is really if they can put this on TV back then that tells you that we didn't have things like this happened back then right and how close it is the I'm not I'm not articulating myself very well, but the fear that we have right now is for a reason and nobody's going to put that on TV today.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Nobody would ever put that on TV today.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, let's get back to the weddings.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, please.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, my God.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But thank you for the history lesson, Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Is my point.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you for the history.
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[SPEAKER_07]: She just blew everything up in my mind.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Excuse me.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Happy to have me to have provided it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So it would be an absolute travesty to talk about TV weddings without talking about the Brady Brides.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh my God!
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[SPEAKER_10]: It's a new life, but you go to the Brady who helped that person to make it on their own.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Just as I wrote with them these days, the nicest day she knew.
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[SPEAKER_10]: You can be tired, I don't keep on me He's different than selfish way Soon the girls are headed for a double wedding A very special day
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[SPEAKER_07]: I got so screwedude researching the Brady Brides, but also I got very confused and I want to see if you guys are confused too.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So I thought the Brady Brides was a made for TV movie, but then it turns out no it was actually
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[SPEAKER_07]: a series, and it wasn't called the Brady Brides?
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[SPEAKER_07]: No, it was called the Brady Girls Get Married.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But wait, it turns out that the answer is all of the above.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So this is why I'm confused.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The Brady Girls Get Married, as it was originally called, was filmed as I made for TV movie.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But then they decided to break it up into little half-hour segments and air it weekly.
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[SPEAKER_07]: and then add more episodes and change the name to the Brady Brides.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And that aired, that series aired in February, March, and April of 1981.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It was 10 episodes in total, and then it got the hook.
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[SPEAKER_07]: See ya.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So I think I saw the rerun of the originally filmed made for TV movie called The Brady Brides.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I don't think I saw it until the 90s.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, that would have been the Brady girls get married.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Would have been the movie, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yep, I'm very confused.
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[SPEAKER_06]: OK.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I feel the same.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like I saw a movie of this.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I can picture the husbands and everything.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But I don't remember ever watching it as a series.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So you must have seen it in multiple reasons.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I remember.
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[SPEAKER_04]: the series and I remember being so excited like sure beyond and I remember I'm in high school at this point and so it's like probably a little geeky to be excited about the Brady bunch coming down but it was everything to me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I cannot be into tell you like right now I'm remembering the feeling of
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[SPEAKER_04]: of this moment of like oh my gosh they're coming back and I'm going to see how they grew up and what they're doing and so I mean you know we've got Carol the realtor and and then she's going to also like maybe run for office and there's like yeah anyway there's a lot of drama but it was all good
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[SPEAKER_04]: I loved it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I loved it every moment out.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It was really fun for us to check in with our old pals, the Brady's because the movie, the movie part, not the rest of the series, but the movie part of it did feature the entire cast for the first time since the series ended because the number of the Brady Bunch variety hour featured fake jam.
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[SPEAKER_07]: There is right, whatever her name is, so this is the first time they've all been together in a show.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And we get to see what each of the Brady kids has been doing.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Now that they're all grown up, and here's how we find out what each of them is doing.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Carol has to call each one of the telephone to tell them the big news about the double wedding.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So it's like, bring, bring, hello.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, it's Greg, and he's a doctor.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Bring bring hello, it's Peter, and he's in the air force bring bring oh Bobby's playing college baseball Bring bring Cindy's in college It's so funny.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He wasn't in the show.
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[SPEAKER_07]: What you wouldn't have been cute anymore They're like get rid of it cousin all over
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[SPEAKER_07]: So Marcia, as a grown-up, is a fashion designer.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Jan is a junior architect and Alice and Sam are married.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Now that's the wedding episode we all would have like to see, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: And Carol, in a sexist trope, is really struggling with empty-nest syndrome.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So she decides to become a real estate agent, a realtor, because she doesn't have any more PTA meetings.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And they're all going to come together for the big double wedding.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So in the double wedding episode, Marsha the fashion designer is marrying a slobinly dude named Wally that she's known for seven days.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And Jan is marrying an uptight dude named Philip coming to the third.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He also happens to be her professor.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So this does not, I was gonna say this is wrong.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, I'm not talking about the professor part, even though, yes, that is wrong and they wouldn't do that today.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But this does not line up with what we know about these characters.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It has always bothered me.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Marsha, Marsha Marsha, should have married the guy who was the third, somebody the third.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And Jan should have gotten the leftovers.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's how this show operates.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So Marcia's wedding dress is very modern and hout kutur because she's a fashion designer.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Where Jan's is very antiquey and Victorian and she's got this high collar on that looks like it's very, very itchy.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And this is because the wedding episode is all about how they can not decide between a casual modern wedding.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Marsha or a formal traditional wedding Jan.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So they decide to do the wedding half and half.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And in one review I read, this guy says, this is some classic Brady nonsense.
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[SPEAKER_06]: a really good point.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know where.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know how.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I saw this so many times.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It was at on reruns.
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[SPEAKER_06]: How did we, was it playing at Nick, I don't even know.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But I watched this multiple times.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's never once occurred to me until right now that this doesn't go with their characters.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, and you're so right.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's almost, yeah, like Marcia became this like fly by the sea to my pants.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Spontaneous when we know Marcia was so concerned with the grades and the dotting off her eyes and crossing all her teeth.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Did everything right.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and Jan couldn't get it right.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And Jan as classic Matt middle child should have been the one that was like rebelling.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, and the storyline is that Jan and the professor get married and they come home to tell Mike and Carol and Mike and Carol are very upset because they think that Marsha should be getting married first of course because that's the order right she's actually should be getting married first.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's okay.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We should ask Mike and Carol about that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And so then that gives that sends Martian into his shame spiral and Martia meets up with Slavnly Wally at a cafeteria and they want to get married.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And so it's like Martia is trying to keep up with Jan.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And so they decide to get married because she feels pressured to keep up with Jan.
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[SPEAKER_07]: This is messing with my head.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It really is.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And also, every time you say the word wall is lovin'ly wall.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I just remember that I thought he looked like maybe like he didn't smell good.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he just kind of looked like he was like dirt.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He just fell in here.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He had B.O.N.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I just didn't like him at all.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I didn't like either of them to be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_07]: No, I didn't like Philip coming to the third either, and I didn't, and while he didn't seem to fit anybody, it was like they were trying to do square peg round hole.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And the remaining episodes of the series were about Marsha and her Slovenley husband and Jan and her uptight husband buying house together and having conflicts about their either Slovenley or uptight ways.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And this is so great.
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[SPEAKER_07]: In one episode, Bob Eubanks, guest stars, as himself, in an episode where
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[SPEAKER_07]: Wait, are you able to watch it somewhere?
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[SPEAKER_07]: No, because it's an episode.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's not in the movie.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_07]: See that episode.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Wouldn't that be great?
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[SPEAKER_07]: And here's a fun sitcom factoid, you guys.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So the Brady girls, like so many sitcom characters, they get married in the Brady house, right in front of the Brady stairs.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And it is how it's done in a 70s era sitcom.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Right in the right in the house and apartment.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Why do they do that?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, I had to think about that for a minute and I think it's I think it's two things.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Again, I'm just making this up people.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Number one familiarity number two, a built set has a certain lighting to it and I remember always thinking that it was weird on all my children like they never went outside.
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[SPEAKER_07]: on all their inside shows and their outside shows and the inside shows had different lighting and so they couldn't mix up with the two and so they wanted something familiar for the viewer they couldn't mess up the lighting and also they didn't want to build a new set.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because Johnny and Trotchi get married in the backyard, which we've never seen before.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's very tiny It's like the laundry room door is open and they've stacked wedding gifts upon like it So that you're like, okay, it's not just a laundry room.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's where they're keeping the wedding
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[SPEAKER_06]: But it's like such a tiny side yard with like Astro Turf basically.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, and Astro Turf.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and then they've just piped in bird songs.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So it's almost distracting you just your bird songs and just so that so backyard equals Astro Turf and bird song.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's funny, but think can you think of any wedding that wasn't in someone's home.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Is there a church in a second?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Because we're talking about not a castle not a castle.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but also not even like a drama because we're about to talk about one that did take place in a church.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Um, oh, I'm trying to think.
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[SPEAKER_06]: What let's think on that, everyone.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, lots of backyards.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, send us a email guys listeners.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because right now I know there's so many of them shouting right now at their list.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, it was.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, it was.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Send it to us.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We can't hear you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I can't help you out with my wedding that I want to talk about next because this was a backyard wedding, also a double wedding.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And when I saw people mention this, I thought I was the only person that might have had a strong feeling towards this episode.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But lots of comments.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm justified in putting it here as one of our top episodes that we're going to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Guys, my favorite curious Mary's Murl, the Pearl.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Stockwell, okay, Murl, the Pearl, the baseball player, like kind of a hokey guy from the farm, so cute, loved him, played by Brian Patrick Clark, who went on to be a really evil guy on general hospital, by the way, and I never could reconcile those two because he was so nice and just aweshoxy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Eight is enough and then he's like a murderer's escape from a sanatorium on.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I remember that now, I just got this weird little flash thing in my brain that I could picture him on general hospital.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I remember that up later.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I just want to remind you guys about this episode, because it was so much like I'd hopped in a time machine.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I talked about this all the time, where it feels like I just got sucked back in time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This episode was that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like I remember specifics of each scene.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I kind of remember what they were gonna say.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so the episode, it's in season three, I do, I do, I do is the title.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It is one of the most memorable episodes of this series.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And it begins with Murl the Pearl, sharing with Susan, he has to go on the road with the minor league baseball team that he plays for, and he has to go on the road for a whole month.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And guess what, Girlfriends can't, they can't come.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She can't go if she's a girlfriend, but she can't go if they're married.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So guess what, he proposes and they plan to get married the upcoming weekend.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So in like six days, they're gonna get married, okay?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Meanwhile, we cut to a scene and it's David and his girlfriend, Janet, and guess what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: They had broken up, but they've now reunited and David proposes to Janet.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he says, let's just a loop.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And she's like, great, that's great.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So they're planning on an allotment.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They haven't shared any of their wedding plans yet.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But Susan is going to share her.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So she tells Dad, she tells her siblings.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And none of them are very excited about it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Dad, especially, you barely know them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're too young.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This shouldn't happen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And she's really upset with the way everybody's dealing with this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Meanwhile, Murl has asked Nicholas to be his best man, okay?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Nicholas is the only one that's excited it seems in the whole clan of the Bradford's.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And Murl's family isn't going to be able to come to the wedding on such short notice because it's harvest season back on the farm.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So he needs Nicholas to step up and Nicholas is all about that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So wedding plans start to get into full swing for this backyard wedding.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They've decided Tommy's going to be the photographer.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Mary's going to make a carrot cake.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Elizabeth is not time for invitation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She's going to call all of the guests and invite them to the wedding.
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[SPEAKER_04]: While everybody is stepping up to the plate, there's also this underlying theme of, uh, should Susan be knowing that she's too young.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Kind of comes to a head where Susan and Tom have this big falling out and she yells at him and she tells him, I'm gunwillow, we're just a loping for get it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Then everybody is all sad.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well guess what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now David and Janet think, oh everyone, so sad there's not going to be a wedding, let's not a loop.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's go ahead and we will get married in the backyard.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Meanwhile, we go to a scene where the pearl and Susan are sitting in a diner on their way to Reno because remember they're going to a loop.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, that's where you're married.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And Susan talks about when she was young.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She would go up into the attic and she'd put on her mom's dress and she'd play wedding.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And this wasn't going to be it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And we're all senses that sadness in her and says, you know what, we're going to go back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The next scene, when they ring the doorbell, I don't know why.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The breast for now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And daddy answers and they then explain to him that, yes, they are going to get married now in the backyard.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, but what are we going to do?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And they say, what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_04]: David and Janet are also getting married in the backyard.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How are we going to do this?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And Dad, he always knows what to say.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He said, we're going to have a double wedding.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And everything is solved.
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[SPEAKER_04]: OK, here we go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The ceremony.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Remember, Tommy is the official photographer of the Savannah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's capturing all the moments with the Kodak Pocket in Stomatic Camera.
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[SPEAKER_04]: it's the final scene.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The wedding couples have gone on their way.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The family is just reflecting on how great the day has been.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then all of a sudden Nancy comes kind of tap dancing, sliding in, wearing this, be shorts and an outfit that looks something like a movie theater usher would have worn in like the 1940s.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And she has her hat and she begins her first live singing
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so did Susan and Murrell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: First there were eight of us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now there were ten of us adding a boy and girl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Paven, Janica, Mary, and so did Susan and Murrell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we're just one happy family.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's just wild about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's just wild about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're just wild about.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That clip of Nancy is so iconic because then it becomes part of the open, yes.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_06]: For perpetuity.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I remember so much about that episode.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Some of the little things you were saying were bringing back memories.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I love Abby and Tom sweating.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, a lot too.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I think that one because it's so first of all, you still get the kind of chaotic Bradford's, you know, running around.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They went, but the part, and that's a two part episode in the part of that one that gets to me is Nicholas and Elizabeth because Nicholas doesn't get it and they're walking and he goes,
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[SPEAKER_06]: Mom's going to be sure something like mom's sure going to be mad when she comes home like and she's dad Mary like mom's She's going to be bad when she gets back home and Elizabeth is like Nicholas No mom's mom's not coming home and he's like, yes, she is like don't say that He's like really angry and she's like mom will always be so I am forgetting now But it's something like mom will always be your mom and then Nicholas runs it like they think he runs away Doesn't he goes up in a tree and Tom has to go get him right
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[SPEAKER_06]: And so, Nicholas doesn't understand, like that mom, wait, what mom, you can't marry someone else because mom, everybody's telling us mom will always be our mom, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: But this doesn't make sense to me, then of course it culminates with, you know, that's the one that they get married to the church.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And the reason I always remember that, too, is all the girls are in peach, of course, like peach roughly right away.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Also, very 1978, if you said to me and like the late 70s or early 80s, Michelle, would you like it?
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[SPEAKER_06]: You're wedding half a million dollars worth of these beautiful flowers, like all kinds of flowers or this baby's breath.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I would have chosen the baby's breath.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, of course.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Baby's breath meant wedding.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So in the Abbey and Tom's wedding, all the girls have little crowns of baby's breath, which I thought was the best.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And that one wasn't a church.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It was a church.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think I know the reason because I'm a TV person now, because on eight is enough, it wasn't a studio audience show.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So they did have outdoor scenes.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, when they inside the outside.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And so they probably didn't have an astro turf backyard wedding.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That was a real grass wedding.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Because if you had like a live audience show, then you had an
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[SPEAKER_04]: Gosh.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I love that show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you if listeners, if you just want to feel good, it's streams on to be to be to be, yeah, free from that the first notes of the theme song to the moments that will come back to you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's some comfort to that show that
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[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe not even a little house on the prairie gets me, which is surprising to say.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think it's my feelings towards Willie Ames too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That same light.
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[SPEAKER_04]: When you wear those rugby shirt, that's so classic.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'd love to eat this enough.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm glad those weddings got mentioned so that we could talk about them.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Isn't it nice when other people are mentioning the things that were important to you?
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: When the sunrise smiles on everything the wrong.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to share just a quick list of some of the other weddings that people mentioned as being some of their favorites from the 70s and 80s.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And it huskeredude the heck out of me when I read some of these because while obviously they weren't most memorable to me because they didn't remember until I read them, once I thought of them, I was like,
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[SPEAKER_04]: course, of course, and I could even picture stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So just a few that people mentioned, there were two from one day at a time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So Barbara Cooper, Mary's Mark, and that was a two partner, and I remember loving Valerie Bertnelly's dress.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Her dress is so classic, and it was just a great wedding.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Was it in the apartment?
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, I pretty sure there's was in a church.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now I didn't rewatch the whole episode.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I just saw little clips.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was in some building where, or someplace where there was a center aisle because her dad, the old junior dad came back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, her dad came back and walked around the aisle.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Here are a few of the other ones.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Scarecrow and Mrs. King.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, funny.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Morgan Mindy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Maria and Luis on Sesame Street.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yes.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I remember.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm really scared here.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But I was old.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm pretty sure I was old.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think I was baby sitting or something.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So maybe obviously young Jen Xer would have remembered this, but yeah, that came up a couple times Jenny and Lionel on the Jefferson.
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[SPEAKER_04]: film a full ball player on good times.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, that was one where somebody brought up like if don't like it's married in that apartment, I'm going to be so pissed.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Lucy, you and Mitch Cooper on Dallas.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then one that we really maybe this needs to be in episode at some time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So we won't go all into where we were when this happened.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But definitely
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was July 29th, 1981.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And this would be Princess Diana and Prince Charles.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's an episode.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That is an episode.
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[SPEAKER_07]: My mom woke us up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think we all have that memory of where we were.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And when we woke up and all of that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So listeners, we saw you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We counted those and we will devote an entire episode to that iconic moment and wedding.
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[SPEAKER_07]: that was iconic.
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[SPEAKER_07]: My goodness.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Do we still have wedding episodes?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Is this still a thing?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Do they do?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Can you think of any contemporary wedding episodes?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, the office, yeah, you know what though you took it on rock your world here.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Don't say it's not temporary, don't say it's 20 years ago, so yes, it's almost 20 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right, it's a whole different because when I was doing like the eighties and I've trying to find the episodes and it was like season two and we were like 20 something episodes like it was really a long drawn out season where you could
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[SPEAKER_04]: have a wedding and you could build up to it like we said in some of these shows.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But when you got like six or seven episodes, you don't even have the time to really develop a relationship and devote a whole episode to a wedding kind of a thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's not the event.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It would have to be the point of the whole show.
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[SPEAKER_07]: When you've only got eight episodes, then the whole premise of your show has to be that somebody meets and gets married as opposed to it being something
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[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh my god, we just hit upon something important.
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[SPEAKER_07]: This is really interesting.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So I think what we're talking about here I know it sounds fluffy people, but I think it's truly historical in nature.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The TV wedding is a pop culture and nugget from the pre-streaming era of very specific era and we are here to preserve it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So what does that say about us?
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Maybe that weddings made you a complete person or when your life began or
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[SPEAKER_07]: that you need to reduce your ratings.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_07]: All I know is that it made for some really memorable TV.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you so much for listening today and we'll see you next time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Michelle, that will never get old for you listening those names.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I just seriously, the number of names that you say, and how many of you support us in that way, it does not go unnoticed and we are so, so grateful for all of your support.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And the list keeps getting bigger and every season it does.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So that means obviously that you guys are sharing it and keep on doing that, share it with anybody and everybody.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You guys I just shared it and this was so organic at the DMV with my DMV person.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, the DMV, that poor place gets such a bad rap and those employees, not yesterday, I had the most pleasant experience and it wasn't like, I went up and said, hey, do you know what I do for a living?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was very organic, sure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think that there were probably, I don't know, 50 people behind me that were pissed as hell because my my guy and I just struck up this conversation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was so meaningful and profound.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he had me write down the name of the podcast and a couple of the episodes and he was all over it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So with that being said, you never know when it's just a place to filter into the conversation that you listen to this great podcast.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I've shared it before with my feet and stir-ups, well, let's just be clear that I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates, I could have been a Pilates,
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[SPEAKER_06]: my gynecologist office.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So listeners, take that to heart and know that and there you are.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Try to top us.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Try to be better than your steps at their anthropologists or the DMV.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We want to share a huge date.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, where there's no place to awkward to share.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I love that's right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Share it with friends and also if you do love us like we know you do, please leave a review where you listen and let others know how great we are so that they'll find us too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And if you don't
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[SPEAKER_04]: Too bad.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't listen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Keep your mouth shut.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Whatever.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We don't like you either.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We don't like you either.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You shut your mouth.
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[SPEAKER_07]: In the meantime, let's raise our glasses for a toast courtesy of the cast of three company to good times.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Two happy days.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Two little house on the prairie and Ellie and Perseval.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yay.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Here's everyone.
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