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00:00:14.320Hello and welcome back to Puberty 101, the podcast where we give parents the science, the language, and the confidence to talk with their kids about reproductive health.
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00:00:18.000I'm Teresa Woodruff, and I'm so glad you're here for this episode.
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00:00:24.559And I have to say it might be my favorite one yet, because today I get to share something that's very close to my heart.
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00:00:28.879Something we created in the lab called the ovarian cycle clock.
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00:00:31.920Or it's also been called the reproductive cycle clock.
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00:00:40.960But the name that seems to stick is the petal period clock, a hands-on visual, make-it-yourself tool for understanding the menstrual cycle.
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00:00:52.719And I mean really understanding it, not just the bleeding part, but what's happening inside the ovary and the uterus and the hormone system day by day across an entire cycle.
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00:00:57.439This episode is for parents of daughters who are approaching or already in puberty.
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00:01:04.799It's for any trusted adult who wants to have a meaningful science-based conversation, but maybe doesn't know quite where to start.
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00:01:10.000And it's for you if you've ever felt like you didn't really understand fully your own cycle.
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00:01:11.599Because here's the truth.
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00:01:19.280Most of us were taught only about bleeding, and that's just one small part of the really extraordinary biological story.
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00:01:28.319So today we're going to put that story together with a reproductive clock, some construction paper, and maybe a bit of bedazzling.
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00:01:31.040And here I'm going to give you a disclaimer.
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00:01:33.200This is not a normal podcast.
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00:01:37.680It requires you to look online and see the tool that we're talking about.
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00:01:43.599The way that I look at it, understanding the reproductive system needs multimodal ways of learning.
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00:01:56.400This podcast is meant for busy adults who are on a commute or a run before work, and it gives you a starting point for thinking about the assets and the way you have conversations while you're in a place where you can listen.
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00:01:58.319So let's dive in.
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00:02:00.480Let me ask you something.
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00:02:07.519When you were growing up, when someone sat down with you maybe awkwardly and explained your first period, what did they tell you?
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00:02:11.120For most of us, the conversation started and ended with bleeding.
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00:02:17.439You're going to bleed every month, here's a pad or a tampon, it lasts about five days, try not to be embarrassed.
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00:02:18.800And that was about it.
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00:02:24.240Well, that's an important conversation to have, but I want to reframe that concept.
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00:02:41.840The menstrual cycle is a bleeding event that is linked to a monthly reproductive cycle, a carefully choreographed sequence of hormonal signals, cellular growth, and tissue changes that happens to conclude with bleeding if pregnancy doesn't occur.
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00:02:45.280When we explain it that way, everything kind of changes.
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00:02:48.960The bleeding becomes understandable, it becomes expected.
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00:02:53.680It's part of an overall monthly reproductive cycle.
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00:03:01.599And that's exactly what the petal period clock is designed to help you know and communicate.
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00:03:03.919So let me tell you about this tool.
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00:03:14.000We created it in my lab because we needed a way to explain the menstrual cycle visually, physically, and in a way that invites conversation rather than shutting it down.
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00:03:25.520It's also a bit of a fidget that can be used while we talk, and it's a practical way we can use to daily empower women to take back their biology and not just the bleeding.
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00:03:33.919We had a Saturday Academy for Girls from the city of Chicago who came to my lab every Saturday for six weeks for many years in a row.
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00:03:43.280And we had great folks working in the lab who volunteered their time to teach the students different parts of their reproductive system, very similar to what you've been learning.
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00:03:45.919And we figured out something very early on.
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00:03:53.120When we lectured about the menstrual cycle, everyone was fascinated, but it was hard to keep all that biology in order.
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00:04:00.560And let's face it, getting all of the cycle dynamics right is a tall order if you're 15 or if you're 35.
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00:04:07.280In addition, I really wanted to take back the role of the ovary in orchestrating the reproductive cycle.
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00:04:12.639So we created a reproductive clock that marks the 28 days of a cycle.
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00:04:16.560You can go to the website and download this project so you can do it at home.
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00:04:19.680The feedback from girls in her families were powerful.
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00:04:28.480I had one young lady tell me years later that she still had her petal clock and remembers the sequence of ovarian events to this day.
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00:04:30.319So here's the idea.
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00:04:38.560Imagine a clock face, but instead of 12 numbers, it has 28 petals like a flower arranged in a circle.
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00:04:44.000Each petal represents one day of the reproductive or menstrual cycle.
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00:04:51.759In the center of the clock, there's a movable arm, like a clock hand, that you can point to any petal on any given day.
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00:05:02.879And on each petal, there's a simple visual, a picture or a symbol that shows what's happening in the ovary on that given day, what's happening to the growing follicles.
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00:05:06.480You can make this together, and that's actually part of the point.
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00:05:13.680You can use construction paper to cut out petal shapes, layered in a circle with a pipe cleaner as a clock arm.
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00:05:22.319You can color the petals differently to represent different phases of the reproductive cycle, or you can make all the petals in your favorite color.
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00:05:30.160You can use different size buttons or beads to represent the growing follicles, and then write the numbers 1 through 28 on each petal.
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00:05:34.639The act of making the petal clock is part of learning.
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00:05:41.279When a young person constructs their clock with a parent or trusted adult, they're already beginning to internalize the cycle.
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00:05:42.800They're making it theirs.
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00:05:47.360Now let me walk you through the biology of each of the petals.
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00:05:54.319So petals one through five is the bleeding phase.
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00:05:58.319The cycle begins with day one, which is the first day of bleeding.
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00:06:02.959On the petal period clock, the first five petals might be colored red or rose.
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00:06:09.519And as you point to petal one with a young person, you might say, This is the day the uterus begins to shed its light.
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00:06:14.959It built something in case it was needed, and now it's releasing it so it can start afresh.
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00:06:20.000At the same time the uterus is shedding, the ovaries are already getting to work.
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00:06:30.639The brain is sending hormone signals, specifically a hormone called FSH or follicle stimulating hormone, that begins to wake up a group of tiny structures in the ovary called follicles.
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00:06:34.160Inside each follicle is an immature ocyte.
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00:06:43.439Put a set of small buttons next to these petals to show that the ovary is actually doing something quite different and active from the uterus during these first days.
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00:06:46.000That's a powerful concept.
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00:06:57.040So, petals 6 through 13, this is the growing phase, and this is where it gets really exciting and where I think the reproductive clock or petal period clock earns its name.
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00:07:03.600During this phase, follicles are growing and one follicle is being selected as the dominant follicle.
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00:07:22.399This is where I love using different size buttons or beads on the clock because the follicles are literally getting bigger day by day, and you can show that, starting with a couple of beads on pedal 1, slightly larger, buttons on pedal 5, and now by the largest button by pedal 13.
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00:07:25.839Or you can bedazzle your follicles or you can paint them on.
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00:07:29.360As the follicles grow, they produce a hormone called estrogen.
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00:07:41.360Estrogen is telling the uterus to start rebuilding the lining, and it's also telling the pituitary that there is a growing dominant follicle with an ocyte that is now mature.
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00:07:52.319On the petal period clock, these petals might be a lighter color, maybe a soft yellow or green, and marked with progressively larger circles for each of the follicles.
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00:07:56.000On petal 14 is the day of ovulation.
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00:08:01.120This is the dramatic center of the cycle and it really deserves its own petal.
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00:08:22.079Around day 14, and again it varies from person to person and cycle to cycle, there's a surge of the hormone LH, and this surge is because the dominant follicle has produced sufficient estrogen to tell the higher brain centers that there's a mature and ready egg for release.
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00:08:27.920This surge signals that dominant follicle to release that mature egg.
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00:08:35.200The follicle opens, the egg is released from inside the ovary to outside, and this is called ovulation.
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00:08:41.519The egg then travels into the fallopian tube where sperm are present, fertilization can occur.
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00:08:51.360On the petal period clock, you might mark this petal with a star or a birth shape or a bright contrasting color that says something significant is happening here.
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00:08:56.559You can attach a small bead that represents the egg being released or draw a little arrow.
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00:09:03.039When you're explaining this to a young person, you might say, This is the day the mature egg leaves the ovary.
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00:09:07.039It's been growing for two weeks and now it's mature.
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00:09:16.080Okay, now petals 15 through 28 are the luteophase.
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00:09:24.879After ovulation on day 14, the empty follicle, the shell that released the egg, transforms into something new.
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00:09:30.480It becomes a temporary structure called the corpus luteum, which means yellow body in Latin.
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00:09:34.559And the corpus luteum starts producing a new hormone, progesterone.
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00:09:37.200Progesterone is the hormone of preparation.
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00:09:40.879It tells the uterus, get ready, there may be a pregnancy coming.
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00:09:45.919The uterine lining continues to thicken and become even more rich and supportive.
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00:09:54.639If a fertilized egg arrives and implants in the uterine lining, the corpus luteum keeps producing progesterone to support early pregnancy.
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00:10:01.120If no fertilized egg arrives, if pregnancy doesn't occur, the corpus luteum gradually breaks down.
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00:10:09.120Progesterone levels fall, and when they fall, the uterus receives the signal no pregnancy this month begins shedding.
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00:10:12.320And so then we return to petal one.
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00:10:17.440The bleeding begins and the ovarian cycle begins again.
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00:10:26.240On the petal period clock, these final petals might be an orange or a gold, representing the luteal phase's preparation and eventual wind down.
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00:10:34.480And as you approach petal 28, the color might blend back toward the red of the bleeding phase, visually completing the circle.
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00:10:41.360Now the biology is one thing, but the conversation is everything.
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00:10:48.799So let me try and give you some practical guidance on how to use the petal period clock with your daughter or the young person in your life.
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00:10:50.720First, build it together.
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00:10:52.960Don't present it as a finished product.
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00:11:00.399Sit down with construction paper, scissors, and some buttons, maybe beads, markers, and a pipe cleaner for the clock hand.
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00:11:02.080Let her cut out the petals.
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00:11:03.360Let her choose the colors.
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00:11:06.559Ask her what color do you think represents the growing phase?
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00:11:08.240What about ovulation?
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00:11:12.159The act of making it creates buy-in and curiosity.
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00:11:19.120It opens conversation naturally because there's something to do with your hands, which makes talking feel less intense.
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00:11:25.039Second, start on day one, when her period begins, on the first day of bleeding.
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00:11:28.000Set the clock hands together to pedal one.
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00:11:31.360Say, today your uterus is shedding its lining.
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00:11:32.720That's what the bleeding is.
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00:11:38.320And today is also the day your ovaries are beginning to wake up a new batch of follicles.
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00:11:39.279That's it.
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00:11:41.679Simple, scientific, and calm.
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00:11:44.799Third, move through it day by day.
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00:11:47.440Move the hands on the clock each day.
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00:11:49.759Talk about what's happening on that day.
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00:11:51.120We're on day 10.
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00:11:53.679The follicle is really growing now.
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00:11:56.960You might start to feel more energy around this time.
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00:12:01.600Fourth, pair the reproductive clock with a calendar.
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00:12:10.639It's important to pair the clock that describes the internal biology with a traditional calendar so kids can count the days between cycles.
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00:12:20.480This is practical and necessary to minimize surprises because cycle lengths can change, particularly in the first couple of years after the first period.
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00:12:24.559Use a simple wall calendar or a notebook alongside the clock.
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00:12:31.279Mark the first day of bleeding each month, and over several cycles, patterns will begin to emerge.
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00:12:33.120And that's incredibly empowering.
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00:12:42.559It demystifies the cycle, it transforms something that can feel unpredictable and sometimes frightening into something observable and understandable.
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00:12:46.720Fifth, talk about how she feels, not just what the clock says.
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00:12:47.840This is important.
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00:12:52.320The petal period clock isn't just about iology, it's about lived experience.
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00:12:56.879During the follicular phase, many people feel a surge of energy and optimism.
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00:12:59.440Estrogen rising tends to do that.
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00:13:04.080Around ovulation, confidence and social energy often peaks.
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00:13:10.639During the luteal phase, especially toward the end, some people feel more inward, more tired, more emotionally sensitive.
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00:13:13.519The drop in progesterone has that effect.
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00:13:17.360These are normal hormonal influences on mood and energy.
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00:13:25.440When young people understand why they feel different at different points in the cycle, they develop self-knowledge that serves them for life.
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00:13:35.679I also want to pause here and say something really important about the 28-day cycle as a model.
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00:13:40.320It's a useful, beautiful model, but biology is wonderfully variable.
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00:13:52.240Some people have cycles of 24 days, some have cycles of 35 days, some cycles are irregular, especially in the first few years after menstruation begins, and this is all completely normal.
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00:13:56.720The adolescent reproductive system takes time to find its rhythm.
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00:14:00.960Ovulation doesn't always happen on day 14.
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00:14:06.399It might happen on day 11 or day 18, depending on the person and the cycle.
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00:14:11.360The bleeding phase might last three days for one person and seven days for another.
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00:14:18.240The petal period clock is not meant to be prescriptive, to say this is exactly what your body should be doing.
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00:14:28.799It's meant to be a framework for understanding, a way to see the big picture of the cycle so that variability makes sense within a context rather than feeling alarming or wrong.
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00:14:33.039When you use the clock with your daughter, build in this conversation.
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00:14:37.039This is a guide, a map of how the cycle generally works.
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00:14:40.000Your cycle might look a little different, and that's okay.
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00:14:43.759We track it together so we can understand what's normal for you.
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00:14:52.320That reframe from what's normal to what's normal for you is one of the most powerful gifts you can give a young person navigating puberty.
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00:14:56.080This goes hand in hand with the possibility of pregnancy.
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00:15:04.159Pregnancy is possible during a fertile window, which spans the five days before ovulation and the day of or just after ovulation.
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00:15:12.720For a typical 28-day cycle, this window is roughly days 10 to 17, with highest fertility on days 12 to 14.
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00:15:20.159Ovulation usually occurs on days 12 to 14 before the next period starts.
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00:15:27.679Because cycle length can vary, there's no exact number of days after bleeding begins to know when the fertile window is.
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00:15:38.159But knowing what is happening in the ovary, when ovulation occurs, and when a mature egg has been released is all critical information for young women to have an understanding of.
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00:15:57.120Knowledge is not scary, ignorance is scary.
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00:16:11.919When a young person understands that the shedding of the uterine lining is normal, a healthy biological process, not a malfunction, not something to be embarrassed about, she carries that knowledge into every doctor's visit, every conversation about her health, every moment of her life.
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00:16:25.840When she knows that the cycle is not just bleeding, but a 28-day hormonal symphony, that there's a growing follicle, a moment of ovulation, a luteal phase of preparation, she has vocabulary, she has framework, she has agency.
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00:16:35.519And when a parent sits down with her, constructs a little paper clock, and says, Let me tell you what's happening inside your body, that young person learns something else too.
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00:16:39.519She learns that her body is something to be understood and respected.
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00:16:41.679She learns that she can ask questions.
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00:16:45.759She learns that the adults in her life are safe to talk about these things.
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00:16:54.879This is the real gift of the petal period clock, not just the science, though the science is beautiful, but the conversation it makes possible.
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00:16:59.120So here's your homework before the final episode.
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00:17:10.480Find an afternoon, a weekend morning, or a quiet evening, whenever it works for you and your daughter, and gather some construction paper, scissors, markers, and some buttons or beads of different sizes.
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00:17:13.359Sit down together and build the petal period clock.
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00:17:22.559Cut out 28 petals, arrange them in a circle, fasten the clock arm to the center, color the phases together, and as you build, begin to tell the story.
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00:17:29.200The story of the follicles that grow, the egg that's released, the uterus that prepares, and the lining that sheds.
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00:17:32.480And if you're not sure to where to start, start with this episode.
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00:17:33.359Play it together.
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00:17:36.799You don't have to be a reproductive scientist to have this conversation.
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00:17:43.119You just have to be willing to show up, be curious alongside your kid, and let the clock do some of the work.
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00:17:46.000Thank you so much for parenting through the change.
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00:17:47.680I'm Teresa Woodruff.